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Salmon farming is a fucking
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If we don't stand together,

we cannot have
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In today's world, everybody
wants their voice to be
heard.

Do not think
this will not affect you.

But when the people
in power don't listen...

The laws that are being put out
now, it's purely out of hatred.

...you need to come together
to make real change.

But don't walk past here
with your noses up.

In this global series,

we will follow a team of
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We have to speak out.
You have to use your voice,

you have to be courageous,
and you have to be brave.

Nobody should be
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We can save many lives
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Not through hatred,
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These activists will
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the work of
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Now we face
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by a system that doesn't
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Y'all ready? Y'all ready?

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if they can shine
a light on injustice

and transform
their lives for good.

This work is, like,
super important.

It's really life or death.

So... good luck.

Stand up, fight back!

In this episode,

we explore mental health

and the dangerous stigma
that still surrounds it,

especially for men.

More than one in three
New Yorkers

have either sought
mental health care

or know someone who has.

Across the world,

men are more than twice
as likely as women

to take their own lives.

Nowhere is the situation
graver

than in Europe's
suicide capital, Lithuania.

Everyone have a friend
or classmate or someone

who killed themselves.
Everyone.

Lithuanian men would
rather do anything else

than talk about their issues.

One man is fighting to change

the country's attitude
to mental health.

We can change social norms.

We can change stigmas.
We can change things.

Can the Changemakers team
help turn one activist
voice...

Life is crazy here. We had huge
moral and emotional problems.

...into a life-saving
national campaign?

I'm realizing that
he's such a great activist.

He's also healing himself.

It's like activism
is also therapy.

Lithuania,
in northeastern Europe,

has a population of
just three million people.

It's the country with the
highest suicide rate in
Europe.

In Lithuania, we're
killing ourselves very well.

We are the first in Europe.
It's at first place.

We can win suicide Olympics.
Already we have a gold.

Vilnius,
Lithuania's capital city,

is home to 34-year-old Oleg.

My name is Oleg.
I'm from Lithuania.

I born in Ukraine.

Eight or nine years ago,
I became famous in Lithuania

because of my comedy.

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Oleg is one of Lithuania's
most famous comedians.

In a country
where talking about

mental illness
remains taboo,

Oleg is a lone voice
trying to remove the stigma.

Labas.

Today, he's making
a video for social media

with his brother, Boris.

Everyone in Lithuania
have a friend or classmate

or someone who killed
themselves. Everyone.

In a city of just 600,000,

Oleg is a well-known figure.

His comedy shows
typically sell out.

Out of the Lithuanian
comedians,

he's the one who makes the
most jokes about mental health.

There's, like, this
long-running joke that
Lithuanian men

would rather do anything else,

uh,
than talk about their issues.

- It's-- it's not a joke.
- It's not a joke, it's just...

I think we need to
make people react.

If people reacting, it's okay.
He's-- he's alive.

A comedian, who's, like,
talking in that way,

people, like, "Okay, maybe
I can talk about that too?"

But currently, a quarter of
Lithuanians would rather not

live near a person
with mental health problems,

and two-thirds say
they wouldn't employ them.

Oleg's desperate to
change the situation,

but he's not sure how.

I don't know how to be
activist,

'cause there is no universities
in the life about activism.

In Lithuania,
the culture of protest,

it's not so popular. It's--
We are very conservative.

To aid Oleg's mission,

the Changemakers team
are stepping in.

Extinction Rebellion's
Flavia Broffoni

has been drafted in
to help him.

I've been an activist
my whole life.

I dedicate almost all my time
to direct activism

within the environmental
and climate agenda.

I believe in direct action
because it works!

Flavia is traveling from her
home in Argentina to
Lithuania,

and over the next two weeks

will be working
directly with Oleg.

I think that mental health is
a stigma for the same reasons

that talking about death
or the climate crisis,

because it makes us
feel really uncomfortable.

I never thought I would be
here talking about a thing

that is not the core of
my knowledge or my expertise.

And what I know is
something very different

from what Oleg does.

In Argentina, it's very common
and normal to go to therapy.

That's maybe why we have,
like, such low suicide rates.

I don't understand, like,
how we will fix our problems,

how we will fix our stigmas.

I can maybe learn
something from Flavia.

To meet another person from
another part of the globe,

for me, it will be, like,

I mean, wow.

I mean,
I really need it, I think.

It's Flavia's
first time in Lithuania.

She's meeting Oleg in one of
Vilnius's main squares.

- Hello!
- Nice to meet you.

- Hello.
- Hi.

I've heard a lot
about you, so I'm very...

- Same.
- ...intrigued.

Here, a little more
or less colder than--

Like, in Argentina,
warmer weather.

Yes, it's much warmer.
And we are, like--

Okay, let's talk about weather!

Let's talk about weather, yeah.

Lithuania borders
Poland, Latvia, and Belarus.

For almost 50 years, it was
occupied by the Soviet Union.

If you can see,
this is a museum of KGB.

Yes.

The basement, people was
killed,

people was murdered,
people was tortured. Yeah.

We were colonized by Russia,
by Soviet Union.

We have mass deportations.

We have very dark side
of our history.

And we have some...

you know, emotional traumas
from our history.

The communist regime
brutally repressed any
dissent.

During their occupation,

over 300,000 Lithuanians were
killed or forcibly deported.

But in 1990,
after years of resistance,

Lithuania regained
its independence.

We had very huge injustice
and huge violence.

Then we became free people.

- That's interesting.
- We not-- We didn't control

our lives, but now it's time
to take control of our lives,

- but we don't have any tools.
- Mm-hmm.

We had huge moral and emotional
problems from the nineties.

Life is crazy here.

Everyone here in Lithuania
have some problems

and had some problems with
our alcohol or depression,

or know someone
who have some problems.

How did you decide to use
comedy to talk about this,

and what-- what is
your purpose regarding that?

I can't fix things in, you
know, general, general,
general.

I can't fix things,
but I can fight for reactions.

Do you have feedback from
people saying, "Okay, I began
to

- "go to psychologist..."
- Oh, yeah. Yeah.

"...because I saw you
talking about this?"

And also, it's-- it's a good
fight for me as a person,

'cause I also know that
I need some changes every day,

'cause I have a big struggle,

a big problem
with my emotional health,

and it's a good way

- to help for myself.
- Mm-hmm.

What is amazing to me the most
about Oleg is that he wants to

share what worked for him
with other people.

But he looks, like,
very alone in his battle.

He definitely needs
a support web,

so I think I can
really help with this,

like, angle of activism.

But first,
Flavia must get to grips

with the problem
Oleg is fighting.

In Lithuania, men are three
times more likely

to kill themselves than
women,

but far less likely
to seek treatment.

I am very curious to understand
how this is affecting men,

because what is going on
with this group of people?

My dad is, like,
very tough guy, macho.

I remember that
when I was a kid,

he was like,
"No crying, never,"

and he finds,
like, very difficult

to put into words what he
feels.

Flavia is visiting
a Vilnius boxing club

to discuss mental health
with the men who gather
there.

Do you think it's easy
for men to talk about

- emotional feelings and stuff?
- No.

- No.
- I think no. You think

not everybody interested
in your problem.

Not about weakness, but, like,

you-- you don't wanna
be a victim, you know?

- I know how to say.
- Okay.

- Yeah, yeah.
- That's interesting.

It's difficult to
show your, like, weakness.

How about your dad,
maybe, and older men?

Generally speaking in
Lithuania?

- Yeah.
- It would be a bit harder.

- Okay.
- Yes, like, the older

generation's harder to talk,
but

when we used to grow up,
there wasn't, like,

a lot of talking inside
the house about feelings.

"How do you feel?" You know?
Like, "This mark in your
school,

"did it make you
feel good or feel bad?

"Do you love that girl
or no?" It just wasn't.

And outside of family groups at
the same age,

do you think that this
conversation is happening,

- or are they more like...
- Mmm...

- Yeah. Okay.
- Yeah, yeah.

- And why do you think that--
- I'd say, like,

from the capital, from Vilnius,

like, they would do that,
you know?

From the countryside
and everywhere else,

no, it's still like this,
like-- We're-- we are damaged

by the Soviet Union.

My brother is passing this
to their kids,

maybe their kids passing this--

Like, I mean, this hard
mental stuff, you know?

- Mm-hmm.
- It's like full circle.

"Man don't cry.
Woman go kitchen."

- Yeah.
- You know?

And it's still-- There are
families who live like that.

It was interesting how
there's something happening

beneath the surface.

It's pretty obvious that
all this history of pain

and suffering during
Soviet times is present now.

There's a clear difference
between generations.

Older generations are
too tough,

but you see younger generations
don't want to talk about

mental health or
emotions because...

we might be seen as victims.

And this is new
in the conversation.

Flavia is learning that
30 years after independence,

Lithuania's traumatic past

is still affecting
people's mental health.

And now, there's a new
existential threat

on their doorstep:
Russia's war in Ukraine.

Ukrainian people
suffer genocide.

Russia rapes and
kills Ukrainians.

The conflict is never far
from Oleg's mind.

He's showing Flavia
a Ukrainian vehicle

recovered from the front
line.

- Now we see this, uh...
- It's an ambulance.

It's an ambulance car,
and Russians shoot this car.

The civilians.
They shoot the civilians.

Yes, yes, yes. Civilians, yes.

So it's real evidence
of Russian crime,

how Russians are
killing civilians.

My emotional health really
fucked up last year

because of this war,
because of this things,

'cause I am, like, Ukrainian.
My mother, she was from
Ukraine.

Living near Russia,
we know this problem.

- Emotionally, it's very hard.
- I can imagine.

When you're-- when you hearing
any airplane sounds,

you're like, "Wow,
maybe the war will start."

Fifty kilometers from here,

there's a nuclear station in
Belarus,

and they used it
like a-- like a gun.

- They used, like, a--
- Fifty? Only fifty kilometers?

- ...like a gun near your head.
- Yes, of course.

Like, "Okay, we can
do everything we really want."

It's really hard to understand
how can they live with

such an anxiety all the time.

When you talk to people,
you see all this complexity.

I'm learning, like-- Yeah.

Best university ever,
definitely. Yeah.

For generations of
Lithuanians,

psychiatric institutions were
to be avoided at all costs.

The Soviet regime used them
as a form of punishment,

locking people away
without proper treatment.

Today, Lithuania has a modern
mental healthcare system.

In Vilnius, Vasaros 5
Hospital treats over 400
people a year

for conditions including
depression,

bipolar, and schizophrenia.

This morning,
Oleg has an appointment there

with his psychiatrist,
Laurynas.

I did a lot of, like, mistakes
when I was young.

I did a lot of things, terrible
things, with alcohol and drugs.

I have deep depression.

When I was young,

alcohol was a good way to
avoid my sorrows, problems.

My twenties, I don't remember
a lot of things there.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I don't understand until now

how to manage that things,
how to manage that...

my inside feelings,
that shame and that--

Mmm, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, I--

Mm-hmm.

- Hey.
- Hey.

- Once again.
- Once again.

- How are you?
- I'm good. How are you?

- I'm good too.
- Oh, yeah.

- So, we have--
- What is this? Hospital,

- or is it another...
- This is a hospital,

- this is therapy center.
- Mm-hmm.

But many people
scared of this place.

- Really?
- Yeah, yeah.

'Cause it's-- it's demonized.

It's demonized, and
there is a lot of stigma here.

Hmm.

Oleg has asked Flavia to meet
him outside the hospital,

as he has something personal
he wants to share with her.

I tried to kill myself.

It was maybe
seven, eight years ago.

My-- my main feeling was guilt.

I felt guilt, guilt, guilt.

I felt guilty
for abusing alcohol,

for incursion with people.
Some, like, violence.

After that,
you are feeling, thinking,

"Okay,
if my life started like this,

"it's going to be
worse and worse,

"so maybe I just need to
kill myself, just not to be--

"you know, to be the problem
here on the Earth.

"You don't need to be here,

"because, like,
everything will be worse."

How did it work for you when
you were in that situation?

How is that you became what
now, where you're doing now?

I just ask for help,
for professionals,

and I started-- I quit
drinking, quit for five years.

I quit drinking.
Five years already,

- I did not drink alcohol...
- Yeah.

- ...don't use any drugs.
- Did you make, like--

You did this call for help?

Yeah, I call for help. I call
for help, and I call them

and I just ask,
"Can you please help me?

"'Cause I'm in
a very bad situation.

"I don't want to be here,
somewhere in some...

"emotional--
dark, emotional tunnel."

I want to fix my mistakes, and
I-- I fixing it. I'm doing
this.

I don't know. I could
recognize, like, so many things
in common

in our work in terms of dealing
with...

existential feelings, and...

I don't know,
what the end is like.

Always working with
all the things that society,

modern society,
doesn't want to talk about,

and mainly we don't want
to talk about mental health

or-- or suicides
or climate crisis,

because it put us all in
a very uncomfort situation.

Thank you.

And I'm realizing that
he's such a great activist

because he didn't plan to be.

He's, like, putting at the
service of others his process,

and in that-- in that
intention,

he's also healing himself.

It's like activism
is also therapy.

Getting professional help
saved Oleg's life.

But each year in Lithuania,
around 500 men die by
suicide.

Most live in rural areas,

where stigma around
mental health treatment

is far worse than in Vilnius.

Flavia is calling
the other Changemakers

to discuss how best to help.

Hello. How are you?

Good, Flavia. Good to see
you.

So,
we are in Lithuanian Vilnius.

I met Oleg, who is our local
activist, and he's a comedian.

It's a very interesting person,
in fact.

He's alone doing what he does.
He doesn't have a group.

He's just one person trying to
use especially social media

to get more people
to talk about mental health.

The suicide rate
in the countryside

is much higher than in Vilnius.

What we need to do
is to engage people

around mental health
conversation outside Vilnius.

No, I agree with you.
I think generally

populations who
are in the city,

they may have access to some
sort of support mechanisms,

but outside, they may not
have.

It's so stigmatized that even
the phrase "mental health,"

I think immediately
shuts people down.

In terms of what could be
done,

if we can reach out to
a small community

with kindness and compassion,

that goes a very,
very long way.

In Lithuania's countryside,

mental health services
are less readily available

than in the city,

and most men are unlikely
to use them anyway.

Flavia and Oleg must find
a way to reach this group.

- Hello!
- Hello. Welcome.

They're teaming up with
public health specialist,
Viktorija.

The main thing about this
project is to gather people

who can openly talk about their
experience in mental health.

- Mother! Yes, I know, Mother.
- Yes?

- Messy, always drinking
Mother. - Exactly!

Having worked in mental
health for 15 years,

Viktorija knows the scale
of the challenge they face.

Men, middle-aged,
who have alcohol problems,

we cannot reach them.
They don't want to open up.

The first one is always bitter.

They're planning
a special event

to encourage men in the
countryside

to talk about their emotions.

We will have an event where
it's kind of group therapy,
yes?

- Yeah.
- Let's call it "discussion,"

'cause people don't like
workshops.

- People scare of workshops.
- During the day, like,

take some flyers
with the invitation

to social spaces where
men gather during the day.

So, what do we want to achieve
in order to help, to improve?

The success would be
that men would come.

- Men would come.
- Yeah.

At least... three.

Okay.

The activists have chosen

the town of Moletai for their
event.

An hour's drive from Vilnius,

it's known for its
beautiful forests and lakes.

But it also has the worst
suicide rate in Lithuania,

and one of the highest
in the world.

On one hand, we have, like,
the flyers to invite people,

and on the other hand,
we have questionnaire.

We are going to give people

who attend the workshop
an anonymous questionnaire.

Definitely we have--
we have a huge challenge,

to bring people.

Okay. We have...

one, two, three, four, five,
maybe 100 flyers.

- One hundred, yes.
- One hundred? For real?

- Yeah, for real.
- Wow.

- I'm very quick at counting.
- Walking around?

Yeah, maybe there is
100 people at all.

Yeah.

One way or another, we will
win.

The event has been widely
advertised online.

But with six hours to go,

Flavia and Oleg are still
unsure if anyone will turn
up.

Oleg's invitation isn't going
down well with everyone.

It's very hard to invite people
who don't want to be invited.

For example, like you look,
this guy, yeah, he's now
working.

Yeah? Just imagine I'm going
to that guy and saying,

"Hey, man, come somewhere,"
he say, "Fuck off.

Fuck you, man.
Like, I don't care."

- Okay.
- Yeah. Understand?

- You can also...
- Yeah.

Oh.

- Comfortable, yeah?
- Very comfortable.

As I said.
There is a lot of people

who don't like
to share any emotions.

In capital,
you are more open

than in the small--
small size countryside.

Here we have that crazy
stigmas.

Mans should be strong
and they don't ask for help.

And what do you do for living?
Your job?

Ah, you're like a sailor.
Ah, really?

So is it something
interesting for you?

Maybe I [indistinct]
for the evening.

[indistinct] no problem.

- Okay. Okay.
- No drink? Okay.

- Food?
- Yes, there will be.

And do you think
or you yourself

talk with your friends about
your emotions and problems?

Is it something you--

- No problem.
- No problems.

- And your friends?
- Here, I haven't friends.

Hmm, thank you very much.

Thank you very much.
Really nice to talk to you.

We have here
a bad, like, mix of things.

The topic,
which is a stigma,

not only not to be interested,
but also rejecting the topic.

Flavia has booked
the conference room

of Moletai Public Library.

That's big.

- Oh, yeah.
- Wow. Yes.

But after
a hard day's flyering,

Oleg's not feeling
too optimistic.

But it appears
the flyers have paid off.

Fifteen people have turned
up,

including the retired sailor
they met earlier.

The aim is to get
the group

talking about uncomfortable
topics they normally avoid.

Viktorija asks them
to each write down

a traumatic childhood memory.

Everything started
little bit crazy 'cause the guy

who was a little bit drunk,
he came and I thought, "Okay,

"here everyone
will be skeptical,

"everyone will be rude."

But no, everything was fine
and we shared. We talked.

So do you feel happy?

I-- I feel happy.

I feel that
it went really good.

It was like my dream
to-- to have such discussions

in such a small town.

I don't know what to say.

At the beginning, when we had a
man, he was drunk.

I kind of think that
this is specific,

the-- the-- the public
we wanted to-- to tackle,

you know, to embrace,
you know, sort of way men,

older men with problems,
feeling lonely.

How is he now?

Maybe he felt so bad
that he did something

like bad for himself
or for anybody else.

I don't know.

This like
is what happened to me.

For the people
who stayed and shared,

the group was
a positive experience.

But Flavia
wants to check on Patras,

the retired sailor
who walked out.

Oh, my flower.
How are you?

Do you remember
the name and everything?

Hello [indistinct].

- This is for you. How are you?
- [indistinct].

I felt really bad the other day
because we invited you

to this event and I didn't
really understand what
happened.

So that's why we came again
to see how are you.

And you like many people
or better alone you?

I am alone. No people.

- Does the beer help, or you--
- Beer. I like beer.

- Understood?
- Ah, okay. Yes.

When you got divorced,
you went in depression.

So are you close? Do you do
things together? Do you talk?

Siberia, Siberia.

Siberia. Siberia.

In a way, he's presenting
himself as a very like

tough guy and not having
the need to talk about...

uh, anything practically.

He also need to really
understand that

there's no such thing as
one solution for the problem.

I've also learned
that how we take care of

each other is as important

as the direct action
and the big things.

How do you feel now
talking about these things?

I am feeling very good.

Oh, that's nice.
And that's enough for me.

Patras is hardly unusual.

Across the globe,
many men choose alcohol

over seeking professional
help for their problems.

And Lithuanian men
are amongst the world's

heaviest drinkers.

Mental health and alcohol,
they are going together.

And it's crazy
how we are abusing alcohol.

We have this stereotype
that if you are a strong man,

you should drink a lot.

Should drink a lot.

Flavia is visiting
the Vilnius neighborhood

where Oleg grew up,

and where alcohol abuse
is rife.

In Lithuania,
we have a tradition.

Every alcoholics,

they have their place
behind the [indistinct].

They have their area
where they drink.

- Okay.
- So here.

You can see here
a lot of cigarettes.

- Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
- Also, look.

Some place like this
I-- I spent some time

so maybe
if I will not quit alcohol

I can be here.

I think for every parent,

It's very hard to see
their son wasted,

see their son
on drugs and alcohol.

When I were at hospital
I just understood

that there is no way back.

There is only...
now I need to make a choice.

Oleg's openness about
his issues comes at a cost.

He's often abused in the
media, even by politicians.

In their face, connection...

His mother
wants to talk to Flavia

about the toll it's taking.

- Hello.
- Hello.

Hello. I'm Flavia.

My name Marina.

How do you feel about...

all, like,
being such a public person

and talking about
his mental health?

Mom said
that she doesn't like it.

So she don't
understand why we need

to share these things.

My mom was very scared about
me.

She-- every time
when I'm writing a post

about mental health
and about my struggling,

she's calling me
and asking like-- like,

"Why did you share this?
Why did you talking about this?

Now everyone
will think that you are psycho

and something like that."

Some people can cancel me
for anything they want.

And I mean, it's-- it's normal.

It's life.
It's-- it's okay.

She understands my struggle.
Deeply she understand.

But she don't understand
that public position.

Like, why I'm talking
about it publicly.

- This is borscht. Borscht.
- Borscht. Borscht.

Borscht, traditional, coming
up.

How nice. Thank you very much.

It's perfect. Thank you
very much for the invitation.

And it's beautiful meal.

She said
she's really appreciate...

She's worried about
his mental health nowadays.

Thank you.
It's been a pleasure.

And thank you for the food.

- Everything was perfect.
- Okay.

I see a parallel between
Oleg's and his moms relation

and my own family relation
with my mother,

in fact, same-- same thing.
Yes.

Hearing Oleg's mother's
concerned for her son

has motivated Flavia to get
more support for his
campaign.

In a way,
his whole work by himself

needs to be
shared with other activists

to make this
conversation bigger in a way.

Flavia's plan is for
a special mental health rally

in Vilnius's
Cathedral Square.

With just days to get ready,

she's calling
the Changemakers team

to discuss
the best approach.

The idea is to do something
in the main square of the city

and it feels like we need
to bring to the conversation

the emotional aspects of this.

And we are
really, really need to

think how to do that
in a visual way.

Something that's coming up
for me when you're speaking,

because you've mentioned
the heart and how we need to

get to people's hearts,
right,

in order to have
these conversations,

perhaps using the heart
and a muscle, right?

Like, they're both actually
the same size, right?

But we need to be
using both of them.

Whatever Oleg can do
to tackle the stigma,

perhaps in a way
to bring in humor

and to bring in
conversation, storytelling.

So these are ways that
are very much [indistinct],

he can bring
in anyone from anywhere.

But Flavia's idea
is that for once,

Oleg won't be
the only person speaking out.

We are going to
be at the square.

So it's going to be
an open mic

for you to invite people
to share their stories.

And for the other hand,
we have like this kind of

creating a legacy, a symbol
of the mental health stigma.

We need to say, like,
"Here, we are Lithuania,

we have some problems,
we need to chat about it.

And also we need to share
some optimistic emotion here."

If we maybe could
think about a symbol or a color

or something that could
be like a legacy on this.

Have you ever thought
about that?

I never heard-- I never think
about it, but it's a great
idea.

This is our enemy.

The stigma around it,
not the problem itself,

but the impossibility
to socially talk about this.

We have three elements here.

We have, like, the-- the people
with the signs,

we have the open mic and we
have the symbol to create
legacy.

With just a day
until the big public event,

Flavia is picking up
handkerchiefs

printed with
a very special symbol.

Thank you.
This is great.

- Good?
- Great. Yes, thank you.

This is the symbol
to expand the conversation.

We wanted to represent the
heart in terms of talk about

emotions and feelings, and we
use the heart as a muscle

so it can be related
also with masculinity.

Flavia hopes her symbol

can create a lasting legacy
for the campaign.

But there's a problem.

Oleg's now ill
with a high fever.

I'm worried.
He woke up feeling not so good.

Hello. I was checking in
to see how you are, in fact.

And how do you feel?
Beside the--

Yeah? Okay.

I picked up the handkerchiefs
a few minutes ago.

I'll-- I'll send some pictures
in a-- in a moment.

- Okay.
- Let's talk later. Take care.

- Okay. Cheers. Cheers.
- Cheers.

Okay, he's at the clinic.
I didn't know that.

This is exactly why
I really believe in like,

more community building around.

Because if he weren't alone,
he would, like, be resting

and he needs that and another
person would take his part.

It's the day
of Flavia and Oleg's

ground-breaking rally
in the heart

of Lithuania's capital.

Cathedral Square
was once the hub

for thousands of protesters

demanding an end
to Soviet rule.

Now Flavia's hoping it will
bring people together again

to help fight the nation's
mental health stigma.

But she's still unsure if
Oleg will be well enough to
attend.

No. He rejected the call, so.

Yeah, he might be tired
or resting or something.

Yeah. [indistinct].

I think we got it. Yeah.

One of the things
that I think we need more

in the activist movements are
people taking care of
activists.

The stage is set,
but there's no sign of Oleg.

Hello.

Oh, my friend.
How are you?

I'm good. I'm good.

English ones, yeah?

The plan is to mobilize
Oleg's 150,000 followers

to flood social media
with photos of the posters.

We have more people
than posters or signs. Yes.

Do you want this? Yeah.

This is great.

When these things happen,
it's great.

The poster display has drawn
a sizable crowd

for the main event.

Ladies and gentlemen,

come here today,
we have open mic.

Every Lithuanian knows what
we have some serious problem

on the suicide subject,

and we are still
number one in Europe.

Plenty of women are sharing,

but so far, no men
have stepped up to the mic.

Something, like,
brilliant happened.

Like, everybody
is participating.

The open mic has,
like, a waiting list.

So this is great, yeah.

He says [indistinct]
love the campaign,

which represents, of course,
the colors of the flag

and the heart
as some muscle, also,

who needs--
which needs exercise.

I have some issues by myself...

- Okay.
- ...with exactly.

So Flavia, I would like
to welcome you on stage

and say you thank you,

what you came from
so far, far away.

- Please.
- Thank you.

Sorry, I will speak
in a bad English.

When this project arise,

I was thinking,
"Okay, I do not really know

nothing about
mental health stigma,"

but I went on thinking
on how it is also related

to the inability we have
as a species to really talk

among each other and it was
a very powerful journey for me

to understand such
a different situation.

Thank you.

I think that Lithuania is ready

and people want
to share their stories,

I could relate to their
stories. It helped me a lot.

I-- I just found out
that I wasn't alone.

I didn't expect
so many people to share.

It was pretty fantastic,
in fact.

I mean, this is working.

We can change social norms.

We can change stigmas.
We can change things.

Just imagine this event
five years ago.

It's unimaginable.
It's-- it's impossible.

I see that people need
platforms to talk, to spread
the word.

So yeah, it's necessary.

Flavia amazing. I mean,
she's wonderful human being.

It's a big privilege.

He's already been a huge
success here in terms of

talking about the stigma
around mental health.

So imagine if he can
make this movement bigger.

Maybe among the people today,

it will be possible to see

if there's anybody
wanting to help him.

So yes, that's-- there is,
like, great potential here.

Yeah.