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SHOCKLEE: I started collecting
records at the age of 5,
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and the first single I bought
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was "I Want To Hold Your Hand"
by The Beatles.
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I mean, my first record I bought
was "Be-Bop-A-Lula"
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by Gene Vincent.
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Whew.
Magical.
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CARPENTER: I do remember
the very first 45 I bought
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was "I Heard It
through the Grapevine,"
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and singing in the kitchen
with my sisters.
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NARRATOR: Records,
cassettes, CDs, and MP3s.
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These are not just vehicles
for music.
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They are reflections
of ourselves
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and the times we live in.
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HOROVITZ:
So, you had your cassette,
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and you'd put
all your favorite songs on it.
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MILNER:
Make a collection
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that you wanted to give
to someone you liked.
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HOROVITZ: This is how I feel,
you know, about you.
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NARRATOR:
As technology has evolved,
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each generation has had a format
to call its own.
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When I was born,
people were listening to vinyl.
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[ Graham Central Station's
"Your Love" playing ]
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McDANlELS: The first album
I paid my own allowance for
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was Larry Graham
and Graham Central Station.
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That was my album.
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VEGA: Everything about vinyl
was great.
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The smell of it when you took it
out of the package.
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JIMMY JAM:
You'd get liner notes,
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which I always loved to read.
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ST. VINCENT: I knew
who engineered that record,
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and I knew
who produced that record.
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That was my complete
and total obsession.
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NELSON: This is
my modern-day jukebox here,
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where I can hear new music
as it comes out.
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They send it to me.
They MP3 me.
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You can get access
to all the songs on the planet,
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and I think that is brilliant.
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CHUCK D: We're heading
to a whole bunch of new rules.
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Like, some people are like, "Oh,
I miss going to a record store
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and just taking the record
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and opening it up
and smelling the [Sniffs]
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Well, I say,
"Well, you're being a romantic.
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I mean, that's wonderful.
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Let's write some books
about it."
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NARRATOR:
This is the story
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of our on-again, off-again
love affair with musical formats
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and how magical pieces
of wax, plastic, and silicon
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changed the world.
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All people
always think their time,
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their music, was better.
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Mine actually was.
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BAMBAATAA:
Way back, before my time,
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they had the turntable that
you used to have to crank up.
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Then it has this big, fat needle
with a little pin on it,
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and it could get on the record,
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and you might hear the crack
and pops poppin' in it,
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and they used to hear
the song comin' through a horn.
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You might not have had no bass,
but you had a lot of treble,
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but you still was ready
to dance with it.
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GRANATA:
Those old 78 RPM records --
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The grooves were cut into
shellac and were very noisy.
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Those 78s, their playing time
was three minutes, each side.
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The 78 was, you know, big,
and it broke.
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GRANATA:
In the 1940s, two major rivals
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had been experimenting
with a way
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to create a quieter record
with a longer playing time.
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There was Columbia,
headed by William Paley,
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and RCA Victor, which was headed
by David Sarnoff.
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Sarnoff had RCA,
and they had everything, okay?
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They had radio.
They invented the record player.
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They invented the record,
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the record
being the 10-inch shellac 78.
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So, in 1948, Sarnoff, going
along merrily, owning the world,
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and this upstart Paley,
10 years younger,
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invites him to the CBS office
and says, "Listen, David,
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we want you to hear
our new product."
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And he plays him
the first 33 album.
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A new kind of record,
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LPs play for 25 instead of
4 minutes without interruption.
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GRANATA: As though it were
a top-secret mission,
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Paley had his engineers create
a long-playing vinyl record
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before RCA had the chance
to come out with their version,
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so that really aggravated
Sarnoff.
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VAN ZANDT:
So, Sarnoff leaves there
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and calls his entire office
into the room,
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and says, you know,
"You have exactly five minutes
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to explain to me how this punk
beat me to the punch
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with something new."
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And they go through
all their files
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looking for some way
to combat this,
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and they go all the way back
to their very first record.
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It happened to be a 7-inch disc.
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And they create the 7-inch 45.
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MAN: On the new distortion-free
RCA Victor 45 RPM record.
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GRANATA: What are teenagers
listening to on the radio?
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They're listening
to one song, two songs,
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that are the most popular.
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So let's come out with a disc
that has two songs on it,
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and we'll sell it for 50 cents.
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VAN ZANDT: And, along
with the kid's records,
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the kid's record player,
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which he takes into his room
by himself to play his records.
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And a whole new thing is born
called "teenage rock 'n' roll."
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ANKA:
Music was everywhere,
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and it was always a social event
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based around
that funny little machine.
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BECK: To hear Eddie Cochran,
"Twenty Flight Rock."
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That was it, when this thing
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used to whirl around and almost
rattle itself off the table
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'cause it's spinning so fast.
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DALTREY:
The rock single was the thing
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that really made us all
want to be rock singers
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or guitarists or in a band,
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and it was the noise of it.
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MARTIN:
What amazed me
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was the sheer technical ferocity
of the stuff.
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Volume !
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I could actually see
the loudness
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of the record in the groove.
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The louder
you could make a pop record,
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the better
it was likely to sell.
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ROONEY: Rock 'n' roll
was considered bad
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for the youth of America
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by a lot of people,
mostly adults.
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Music was segregated
during the '50s.
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People used to call black music
race music.
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And a lot of the people
used to think
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that it was
a little too suggestive.
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The 45 records,
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I think, did a lot
for bringing the races together.
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I think it was beginning of
the end for that old race music.
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STOLLER: Jerry and I
were young white kids,
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even though we liked
to think of ourselves as black,
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who loved black music,
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and those were the artists
that we wanted to write for.
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LEIBER:
I first met Big Mama Thornton
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in Johnny Otis' rehearsal space.
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She was quite intimidating.
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STOLLER:
She had a few scars on her face,
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looked like razor scars,
but she could sing.
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The A&R man, Johnny Otis,
called and said,
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"I'm doing a session with her,
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and I need songs,
so you better come on down."
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LEIBER: She was wearing
old farmer jeans.
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She looked like she didn't have
much use for guys like us.
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STOLLER: Her actual
physical being inspired Jerry.
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I think it probably
took us about 10 minutes
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to write "Hound Dog."
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LEIBER:
I said, "You know what, man?
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I'm not happy with this song."
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I said, "'You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog' is not --
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It's not enough kick.
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I want something really dirty,
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like 'Dirty Mother Furrier'
don't you know?"
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And I said, "No, they
won't play that on the radio."
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I really want something
that's really kick-ass.
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Hound dog?
I mean, give me a break.
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We attempted
to interest her in the song.
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She snatched the paper
out of my hand.
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She said, "What's this?"
I said, "That's the song."
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She said, "This the song?"
I said, "Yeah."
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? You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ?
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STOLLER:
I remember Jerry saying,
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"It doesn't go like that,
Big Mama."
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She said, "White boy, don't tell
me how to sing the blues."
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? You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ?
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? Been snooping
around the door ?
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And we knew we had a hit.
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JOHN:
My mum came home with a record.
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She said,
"I've just heard this record,
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and it's a sort of music
I've never heard before."
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She said, "But it's fantastic."
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And she said, "Listen to it."
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It was a total introduction
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to a different sort
of music, obviously,
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which I found out later
to have its roots in blues
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and rockabilly and folk
and country and gospel.
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But, you know, Elvis Presley,
you know, was the one.
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Thanks to Elvis, we were able
to combine a mixture
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of what they thought
white felt and what blacks felt.
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Elvis brought a style of his own
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of wiggling his behind
and what have you
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and singing the same song
by Big Mama Thornton,
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and all of a sudden,
it became acceptable.
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When I heard
Elvis' rendition of "Hound Dog,"
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I thought
it was kind of rockabilly,
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didn't have any blood in it.
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STOLLER: But, after it sold
7 million records,
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it started to sound better.
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GRANATA: Big Mama Thornton's
recording of "Hound Dog" in 1953
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did very well.
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It was a 78 RPM
that sold between half a million
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and a million copies.
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When Elvis' came out
on a 45 RPM record in 1956,
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it sold 10 million copies.
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And that was a turning point
for the 45.
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[ "In the Wee Small Hours
of the Morning" plays ]
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Meanwhile, other artists
are beginning to make inroads
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with the 33 1/3 LP.
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By 1954, Frank Sinatra
is at the top of his game,
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the sweet spot
for his voice and his work.
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At the same time, he's got
this deep emotional upheaval,
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'cause he's really carrying
a torch for Ava Gardner,
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to whom he's still married,
but not with.
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He's already broken up with her.
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And when he walked
into the Capitol studio
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to record
"In the Wee Small Hours,"
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he understood that he could use
this new format, the LP,
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for long-form expression.
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ROSEN:
Before the long-playing record,
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we had a 3-minute-long song.
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Now we could have
a long-form musical story,
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and so Sinatra
created this crazy thing
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called the "concept record."
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GRANATA: Frank sat
with little pieces of paper
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with each song title on it,
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and he would shuffle them around
so that they told a story.
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16 songs, single statement --
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what it's like to lose
your love.
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? While I sit and sigh ?
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Frank always wanted Ava back,
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and what we hear
in "In the Wee Small Hours"
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is a reflection of that anguish
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that he had lost
this great love of his life.
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This landmark album coincided
with true high-fidelity sound,
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the LP, magnetic tape,
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and these gorgeous
Neumann microphones
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that gave you
the most incredible richness.
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I mean, as we're sitting here
at Capitol,
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I still get blown away
by this room.
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Right on that exact spot
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there was
a full orchestra setup,
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and Sinatra was facing this way,
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and he sang all the songs.
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CASH: I was just
in the old Capitol building,
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and we went in that room
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where Sinatra
recorded with Nelson Riddle
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those great classic records.
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And that microphone.
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It was just so goosebump-y.
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GRANATA:
In creating this concept album,
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Sinatra solidified a format
for all of music to follow.
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When 78 RPM discs
were the format,
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and the only format out there,
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it didn't really matter in jazz
whether it was a small group,
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a singer and band, a big band,
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they would all kind of record
the same way,
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which was we've got
to get this in and done
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within 3 1/2 minutes.
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WAS: If you listen
to a Charlie Parker 78,
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they're short solos.
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It just goes around
a couple of times,
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and then he's out of time.
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So, suddenly, the LP
gave jazz musicians
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the opportunity
to express themselves.
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KAHN:
In the spring of 1959,
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Miles Davis went into
the New York Columbia Studio
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and recorded "Kind of Blue."
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Miles Davis created new kinds
of freedoms,
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the idea of modal scales,
no chordal structures.
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He wanted to kind of allow the
individual voices of the soloist
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to come through and begin
speak in extended paragraphs.
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The tracks
are all roughly 9 minutes,
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10 minutes, 12 minutes long.
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It was released
in August of '59,
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and by the end of that year,
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it had already become the bible
for many musicians.
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WAS: "Kind of Blue," you know,
it's still in the jazz top 10.
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Can you imagine that?
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I don't know that it ever left.
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ANKA: Well, the '50s
and the early '60s,
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the single record was the thing.
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If you didn't have that,
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you didn't get the album,
which was the follow-through,
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and then you didn't have
a career.
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JAMES:
And radio was the way
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you put new records
in front of the public,
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- so I loved AM radio.
- DEEJAY: Be happy.
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Come on, everybody. It's
a beautiful night in Chicago.
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JAMES: These 50,000-watt
clear-channel stations --
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I mean, WLS in Chicago would hit
10 million to 20 million people.
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Hi, everybody all over America.
This is your Cousin Brucie.
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It's the WABC party.
Go, go. Whoo!
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JAMES:
They'd hit 38 states at night.
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MAN: [ Echoing ]
Number one!
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? You never close your eyes ?
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JAMES: There's nothing more
exciting thing on this earth
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than an exploding
smash-hit single,
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because it just --
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It happens everywhere at once,
and it just goes.
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It's like an atomic bomb.
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DEEJAY: Tommy James
and the Shondells, "Mony Mony."
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ANKA:
So, you knew going in the studio
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that everything you had to say
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had to be no longer
than 2 minutes and 30 seconds,
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or shorter, if you wanted
to get on the radio.
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ROBERTSON:
This is, like, 1965.
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We were zooming
around Manhattan.
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And John Hammond Jr. said,
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"Listen, a friend of mine
is recording,
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and I said
I would stop in and say hello
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and hear a little bit
of what he's doing."
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So we went
to Columbia Recording Studios.
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[ Bob Dylan's "Like
a Rolling Stone" playing ]
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And Bob Dylan
and these musicians
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were in there recording,
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and they were recording
"Like a Rolling Stone."
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Once upon a time,
you dressed so fine
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Threw the bums a dime
in your prime
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Didn't you
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People call, say,
"Beware, doll
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You're bound to fall,"
you thought they were all
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Kidding you
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And I didn't know him,
but I thought,
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"This song
is really interesting."
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It was like a different kind
of songwriting.
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Dion from Dion and the Belmonts
was there.
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DION:
It was great to watch.
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Dylan had recorded some albums
with just his guitar,
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and now he had
a few of the guys
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from the Brill Building come up
and played with, you know,
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drums, a full band behind him.
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Your next meal
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How does it feel
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It was exciting.
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He was like somebody let him
out of a cage or something.
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He knew what he was about and
exactly what he wanted to do.
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You couldn't sway him,
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'cause I heard some musicians
say, "Listen, you can't do."
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He said, "Follow me."
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Like a rolling stone
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"Like a Rolling Stone,"
in my opinion,
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is the greatest single
anyone has ever made.
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It's a really
ambitious statement
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to put in a rock 'n' roll 45
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just a couple years past,
like, "Be My Baby."
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At Napoleon in rags
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And the language
that he used
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Go to him now, he calls you,
you can't refuse
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When you ain't got nothing
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You got nothing to lose
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You're invisible now
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? You've got no secrets
to conceal ?
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SPITZ: Columbia had really
become an album company.
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Bob makes what is perhaps
the longest single ever made.
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It's six minutes long.
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To be on your own
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With no direction home
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Like a complete unknown
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"Like a Rolling Stone,"
all of a sudden,
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it becomes a hit single.
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DEEJAY: Now Bobby Dylan
comes front and center at WHK
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with song number six
on the survey.
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This is called
"Like a Rolling Stone."
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You're gonna hear the whole
six-minute version here.
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WAS: I think the impact of radio
was huge, you know,
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but maybe we can offer more to
go along with the advertising.
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? You walk into the room
with your pencil in your hand ?
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? You see somebody naked ?
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Bob Dylan,
you know what he did?
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He brought in thinking
single-handedly.
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And it was brought home to me
by John Lennon,
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who adored Bob Dylan,
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and Dylan would use phrases
that Lennon would pick up on.
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So, he picked up
on those lyrics.
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Well, we can actually tell
the truth?
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You know, we can actually
talk about our own lives?
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? Something is happening here ?
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00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:33,079
? But you don't know
what it is ?
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? Do you, Mr. Jones? ?
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People really
didn't do that very much.
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I mean, Sinatra certainly
sounded like he was doing it,
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but now here's Dylan
actually throwing in something
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that certainly
seemed autobiographical.
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DONAHUE: This is Tom Donahue
back in action.
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This is KSAN in San Francisco.
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Rachel and I
will be here until midnight.
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VAN ZANDT:
Around '69, FM radio started,
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which meant, you know, the
deejays were slowed down now.
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DEEJAY: And that's the way it
was, and that's the way it is,
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00:24:10,658 --> 00:24:12,869
and it's always changing,
and it is always the same.
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VAN ZANDT: And they were
talking more conversationally,
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and it was all sort of being
taken much more seriously.
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We went out
with Hubert Humphrey
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00:24:30,386 --> 00:24:33,389
in 1968
on the presidential campaign.
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00:24:33,514 --> 00:24:35,558
He was, of course,
running for president.
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He was the vice president.
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Well, when
we went out on the campaign...
389
00:24:45,651 --> 00:24:46,944
...the big acts of the day
390
00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:49,572
were The Rascals,
The Association,
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The Buckinghams,
Gary Puckett, us.
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00:24:53,701 --> 00:24:56,662
You know -- all singles acts.
393
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90 days later,
when we get back, no kidding,
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00:25:00,374 --> 00:25:02,502
the hottest acts
are Led Zeppelin,
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00:25:02,627 --> 00:25:03,961
Blood, Sweat & Tears,
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00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:06,255
Crosby, Stills & Nash --
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all album acts.
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00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:10,259
We knew that if we were
gonna stay in this business,
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we had to sell albums.
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VAN ZANDT:
Led Zeppelin, I believe,
401
00:25:15,306 --> 00:25:16,933
was the first one
to tell the record company
402
00:25:17,058 --> 00:25:19,519
they were not permitted
to put out a hit single anymore,
403
00:25:19,644 --> 00:25:21,729
because they were
just so uncool.
404
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:25,399
All of a sudden, the '50s,
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00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:28,611
people are on album covers,
they're all smiling.
406
00:25:28,736 --> 00:25:30,363
The '60s hit,
407
00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:32,907
you didn't smile
on album covers anymore.
408
00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,201
Kennedy was assassinated.
409
00:25:35,326 --> 00:25:38,621
Rock 'n' roll
went down about five octaves.
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00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:40,164
It got serious.
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WAS: All of a sudden, the album
took on all this value.
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00:25:44,794 --> 00:25:47,213
You didn't want to miss a --
You wanted every song.
413
00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:48,214
Every song was important.
414
00:25:48,339 --> 00:25:50,383
You had to make
a complete artistic statement
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with your whole project.
416
00:25:52,969 --> 00:25:57,056
And then, for black people,
that album is by Marvin Gaye.
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00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:05,106
BOYD: Marvin Gaye, a lot of
people don't realize the career
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he had with Motown
before reaching this point.
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00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:22,748
The early '70s,
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he's done the duets
with Tammi Terrell,
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which are very popular.
422
00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:39,140
Tammi Terrell
suffers a very tragic fate.
423
00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:41,934
Marvin's very, of course,
distraught.
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00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:46,188
QUESTLOVE: He left the road
after Tammi Terrell's death,
425
00:26:46,314 --> 00:26:48,608
you haven't heard new material
in two years,
426
00:26:48,733 --> 00:26:52,653
and now that his brother's home
from Vietnam,
427
00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:56,949
and he has this vision
of being a messenger.
428
00:26:57,074 --> 00:27:01,454
I started to think
about the war in Vietnam
429
00:27:01,579 --> 00:27:03,998
and my brother, who was --
430
00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:07,126
He used to tell me,
431
00:27:07,251 --> 00:27:11,714
write, respond with some pretty
horrible stories about the war.
432
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,842
I became quite affected by them.
433
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:18,054
At the same time, there was a
great deal of unrest in America.
434
00:27:18,179 --> 00:27:23,267
Civil rights, black power,
Vietnam.
435
00:27:23,392 --> 00:27:26,437
These shootings of the kids
on the college campuses.
436
00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:28,939
QUESTLOVE:
Berry Gordy headed Motown,
437
00:27:29,065 --> 00:27:31,567
and he's like, "No,
we're not a message company.
438
00:27:31,692 --> 00:27:33,361
You're not gonna
release this album."
439
00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:35,863
BOYD: Berry Gordy doesn't want
this kind of music
440
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:38,449
because Berry Gordy's
been making money
441
00:27:38,574 --> 00:27:42,495
by selling pop songs --
"Stop! In the Name of Love,"
442
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:43,663
"I Heard It
through the Grapevine."
443
00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:45,373
He wants that Marvin,
444
00:27:45,498 --> 00:27:49,043
and Gordy, it turns out,
was wrong. Quite wrong.
445
00:27:50,795 --> 00:27:54,924
And Marvin records
this incredible album.
446
00:27:55,049 --> 00:27:57,468
It's a concept album --
"What's Going On."
447
00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:27,415
QUESTLOVE:
For a lot of us,
448
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:31,168
like, that's black people's
"Times Are A-Changing."
449
00:28:31,293 --> 00:28:32,837
And you go from song to song.
450
00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:34,630
QUESTLOVE:
Everything is a suite.
451
00:28:34,755 --> 00:28:37,591
No one ever considers
the first six songs
452
00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:40,886
on "What's Going On"
as six songs.
453
00:28:41,011 --> 00:28:43,806
Like, the entire side one
is just one song to me.
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00:28:56,569 --> 00:28:59,989
CHERRY: I think for me,
it was in 1972, '73.
455
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:08,581
It's mixed with a very dark,
difficult time in my life.
456
00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:20,926
CHERRY: And, to me,
when I hold my original copy
457
00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:23,095
of "What's Going On," you know,
458
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:27,558
it takes me back to living
on Ninth Street in New York
459
00:29:27,683 --> 00:29:31,437
and the memory of how much
it was raining in that period,
460
00:29:31,562 --> 00:29:34,023
and I don't know
whether that association
461
00:29:34,148 --> 00:29:36,609
comes with Marvin Gaye
on the record sleeve
462
00:29:36,734 --> 00:29:41,781
in patent black raincoat
with raindrops on his coat
463
00:29:41,906 --> 00:29:44,658
or a real memory.
464
00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:57,588
It's an incredible album that
expresses and holds so much,
465
00:29:57,713 --> 00:30:00,508
which is why I think it was
such a meaningful record
466
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:01,759
and still is.
467
00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:06,305
BOYD: The only problem with
that album -- It's too short,
468
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:07,640
meaning I need more.
469
00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:09,475
I want more.
I'm not done.
470
00:30:17,233 --> 00:30:18,192
McDANlELS:
You know what's crazy?
471
00:30:18,317 --> 00:30:23,280
Those albums -- Marvin Gaye,
John Lennon, Bob Dylan --
472
00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:27,993
those records, that music,
those artists were our lives.
473
00:30:28,118 --> 00:30:29,829
Our lives is on that vinyl.
474
00:30:34,750 --> 00:30:37,753
MILNER: During the '70s,
especially in the rock world,
475
00:30:37,878 --> 00:30:39,255
the LP was king.
476
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,215
But it had drawbacks.
477
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:42,800
They can scratch,
478
00:30:42,925 --> 00:30:44,635
they're certainly not portable,
479
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,512
and there was no way
to make one easily.
480
00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:47,972
You had to go
in a recording studio.
481
00:30:48,097 --> 00:30:50,808
You couldn't just make an LP
at home.
482
00:30:50,933 --> 00:30:53,185
? Rah-rah, rumble seats
and running boards ?
483
00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:54,228
[ Cassette player clicks ]
484
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:58,774
MAN: Music in pocket size
and instant loading.
485
00:30:58,899 --> 00:31:02,444
MILNER: The cassette tape was
a good example of a technology
486
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:04,905
that really didn't even
pretend to be an advance
487
00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:07,700
over what came before
in terms of sound quality.
488
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,077
It was, however,
very, very portable.
489
00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:13,998
MAN: You record from your radio
or make your own programs.
490
00:31:14,123 --> 00:31:16,709
MILNER: And, for the first time,
anybody could make a recording.
491
00:31:16,834 --> 00:31:19,169
It's very easy to make,
like, a direct, you know,
492
00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:20,963
from vinyl-to-tape recording.
493
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:22,339
GODRICH:
I just taped all my friends.
494
00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:24,675
Yeah, I just had
thousands of cassettes.
495
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,927
You know,
I was pirating as a child.
496
00:31:27,052 --> 00:31:28,053
You know, absolutely.
497
00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:30,139
Think about when you were a
kid, and you're going to school,
498
00:31:30,264 --> 00:31:32,266
and your pockets are like this,
and it's, like, all tapes.
499
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,102
GROHL: We would make cassettes
and share them with friends,
500
00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:36,729
and we would pass them around,
501
00:31:36,854 --> 00:31:39,899
and then we'd go see those bands
when they came into town,
502
00:31:40,024 --> 00:31:42,359
and we felt like that music
was ours.
503
00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:45,237
[ The Cure's "Love Song"
playing ]
504
00:31:45,362 --> 00:31:46,947
MILNER: Of course,
you could also make mix tapes,
505
00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,575
so essentially,
you could create your own LPs.
506
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,869
HOROVITZ: You had your cassette
for a dollar,
507
00:31:51,994 --> 00:31:55,122
and you'd put
all your favorite songs on it.
508
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:01,879
MILNER: You could find
connections between songs.
509
00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:04,465
You could find thematic things.
510
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,008
HOROVITZ: If I was making
a tape for you, I'd be like,
511
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:07,468
"You know what? I have
a feeling you're gonna like
512
00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:09,470
these particular types
of songs."
513
00:32:10,638 --> 00:32:12,848
You'd maybe put
some romantic things on there.
514
00:32:12,973 --> 00:32:14,016
You'd try to be cool with it.
515
00:32:14,141 --> 00:32:16,268
This is how I feel,
you know, about you.
516
00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,354
MILNER: This particular
selection of songs
517
00:32:18,479 --> 00:32:20,814
in this particular order --
It was a big deal.
518
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,816
QUESTLOVE:
It's an extent of your arm.
519
00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:24,818
It's an extent
of your personality.
520
00:32:25,653 --> 00:32:27,696
There's a girl
that you're really into,
521
00:32:27,821 --> 00:32:30,824
the first thing I'd do is,
I'd go make her a mix tape.
522
00:32:33,077 --> 00:32:35,329
MILNER: It was a document
for who you were at that moment,
523
00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:37,373
who you -- how you wanted
the rest of the world
524
00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:40,417
to see you through the prism
of the music that you loved.
525
00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:52,221
CHERRY: I remember getting
a mix tape from Corona, Queens.
526
00:32:52,346 --> 00:32:53,347
It was Spoonie Gee.
527
00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:57,309
It was just, like, a cassette
from, like, a bodega,
528
00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,186
and I think
I probably killed it.
529
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,854
You know, I played it to death.
530
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:04,775
It was, like, the first real
uncommercial hip-hop,
531
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,403
sounding like
it was coming off the street.
532
00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:09,279
And I fell in love with it.
533
00:33:15,953 --> 00:33:18,038
GROHL: The first music scene
that I fell in love with
534
00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:19,748
was the punk-rock scene.
535
00:33:19,873 --> 00:33:22,376
My cousin Tracy,
she brought me upstairs,
536
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,294
and she showed me
her record collection,
537
00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:25,629
and she had fan zines.
538
00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:27,631
And you'd go to the back
of one of those fan zines,
539
00:33:27,756 --> 00:33:29,633
and there'd be
this classified-ad section
540
00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:31,844
with, "Hey, I have a band.
Here's my demo tape.
541
00:33:31,969 --> 00:33:33,095
It's only $2.50.
542
00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:36,932
Send two stamps, and I'll send
you a sticker and my cassette."
543
00:33:37,057 --> 00:33:39,810
And I realized there was
this whole underground network.
544
00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:40,936
Like, "Whoa, man.
545
00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:42,229
All of this is happening
546
00:33:42,353 --> 00:33:45,565
without anybody having
any idea it's going on."
547
00:33:52,865 --> 00:33:55,576
WYBENGA: A huge part
of the Dead experience
548
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:58,245
and the Deadhead experience,
in particular,
549
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,582
has been
all these bootleg cassettes.
550
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,476
The Grateful Dead live --
It was just a dragon.
551
00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:27,941
In the studio, we never
could bring out that dragon.
552
00:34:28,067 --> 00:34:29,902
That dragon never
really happened in a room
553
00:34:30,027 --> 00:34:31,695
without people, you know,
554
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:34,615
and there was no way
we could remember
555
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:36,408
what we did the night before.
556
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:37,493
That was not possible,
557
00:34:37,618 --> 00:34:41,080
because we were taking
mind-altering drugs every night.
558
00:34:48,128 --> 00:34:49,671
GARCIA: Some nights,
it would be just awful,
559
00:34:49,797 --> 00:34:51,090
and some nights,
it would be wonderful.
560
00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:53,008
If we're experiencing
authentic inspiration,
561
00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:54,927
then something magical
sort of takes over.
562
00:35:01,809 --> 00:35:03,811
CANTOR-JACKSON: The experience
of a Grateful Dead show,
563
00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:05,270
it is hard to describe.
564
00:35:05,395 --> 00:35:07,689
It was
like a religious experience.
565
00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:12,236
You go there, a lot of it
was the partaking of LSD,
566
00:35:12,361 --> 00:35:13,821
our sacrament at the time.
567
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,917
When we all got to that level,
the music would just soar.
568
00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:28,919
It would go off,
and the crowd would go with us.
569
00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:31,255
I mean, the whole audience
was in the same place.
570
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:34,925
WYBENGA: You have music
that is highly improvisational
571
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:37,094
and not played
the same way twice.
572
00:35:37,219 --> 00:35:38,846
You had this impulse
to document.
573
00:35:38,971 --> 00:35:41,265
MAN: Follow the chords
from those microphones, folks.
574
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:42,391
MAN #2:
Yeah, right.
575
00:35:42,516 --> 00:35:44,226
MAN #1: Let's find out
who these people are.
576
00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:46,603
The Deadheads were recording
our performances,
577
00:35:46,728 --> 00:35:47,604
and that was illegal.
578
00:35:47,729 --> 00:35:49,064
MAN #1:
Put that spotlight out there
579
00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:50,607
on that microphone,
the periscope.
580
00:35:50,732 --> 00:35:51,984
You'll see it sticking up there.
581
00:35:52,109 --> 00:35:54,820
HART: And they ran
their copies of cassettes,
582
00:35:54,945 --> 00:35:57,573
and then
they would give it away.
583
00:35:57,698 --> 00:35:59,616
It was called a Grateful Dead
Free Tape Exchange.
584
00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:01,660
MAN: Underground Records,
Incorporated.
585
00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,872
So, we said,
"We don't want to be cops,
586
00:36:04,997 --> 00:36:07,082
and we don't want
to hire more security.
587
00:36:07,207 --> 00:36:09,960
- Let 'em come."
- [ Instruments tuning ]
588
00:36:12,713 --> 00:36:15,757
WYBENGA: I know it came
to a head in the '80s
589
00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:18,552
when their sound man
had problems consistently
590
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,054
with microphones
blocking his sight lines
591
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,431
from the back of the house.
592
00:36:22,556 --> 00:36:23,765
MAN: You down there
with the microphone,
593
00:36:23,891 --> 00:36:25,434
if you want to get
a decent recording,
594
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:27,853
you got to move back
about 40 feet.
595
00:36:27,978 --> 00:36:30,189
Eventually, the Grateful Dead
addressed this whole issue
596
00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:32,524
of taping by giving tapers
their own section.
597
00:36:33,901 --> 00:36:36,486
HART:
It built an army of tapers.
598
00:36:36,612 --> 00:36:38,947
They were responsible
for making the Grateful Dead
599
00:36:39,072 --> 00:36:40,282
a world phenomenon,
600
00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:42,951
and that was one of
the smartest moves we ever made.
601
00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:50,209
WYBENGA: Having a Dead
tape collection was a display
602
00:36:50,334 --> 00:36:53,128
right there of the depth
of your commitment to the band,
603
00:36:53,253 --> 00:36:54,922
a form of social currency.
604
00:37:02,638 --> 00:37:06,516
One of the first tapes
that I heard was 7/13/84,
605
00:37:06,642 --> 00:37:08,810
Greek Theater --
just a nice little show.
606
00:37:08,936 --> 00:37:13,774
And then 1977 was an improbable
height of sorts for them --
607
00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:15,359
the tightness of the playing.
608
00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:23,325
5/7/77, for a long time,
was my favorite.
609
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:25,118
And that's a show
that had come into circulation
610
00:37:25,244 --> 00:37:27,537
through Betty Cantor-Jackson.
611
00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:33,252
CANTOR-JACKSON: My stuff is
not taper stuff. It's different.
612
00:37:33,377 --> 00:37:34,503
My stuff is always direct
613
00:37:34,628 --> 00:37:36,588
from the mikes on the stage
from the band.
614
00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,717
WYBENGA: Betty Cantor-Jackson
had done various sound work
615
00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:41,843
for the Dead
throughout the years,
616
00:37:41,969 --> 00:37:44,930
had been a part of that Dead
family since very early on.
617
00:37:46,306 --> 00:37:49,268
CANTOR-JACKSON: I did the taping
pretty much for my own pleasure
618
00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:50,310
and for Jerry.
619
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:52,354
He'd come over the next morning,
sit in my living room,
620
00:37:52,479 --> 00:37:55,065
and have a cappuccino
and listen to the playback.
621
00:38:04,658 --> 00:38:06,618
It's something I really enjoy,
622
00:38:06,743 --> 00:38:09,371
just carving music
into the tape, you know.
623
00:38:19,339 --> 00:38:22,676
WYBENGA: These pristine
soundboard recordings
624
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:26,388
became the source of what became
known as The Betty Boards --
625
00:38:26,513 --> 00:38:31,351
bootleg cassettes that started
to emerge in the late '80s.
626
00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:35,230
So a lot of shows that
Deadheads had loved already,
627
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:37,399
even in poor sound quality,
became available
628
00:38:37,524 --> 00:38:40,819
in crystal-clear sound quality.
629
00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:42,529
CANTOR-JACKSON: I think they'd
been out there for quite a while
630
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:43,697
before I ever knew about it.
631
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:47,909
I heard some of them recently
that were amazing.
632
00:38:50,203 --> 00:38:51,538
WYBENGA: You know,
it's interesting to think
633
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:54,583
whether this all would have
shaken out the same way
634
00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:56,710
if cassettes tapes didn't exist.
635
00:38:56,835 --> 00:38:58,712
You've got to figure
that the Grateful Dead
636
00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:03,091
has to be the most recorded
musical ensemble in history.
637
00:39:04,009 --> 00:39:06,678
WOMAN: The cassette industry
is booming.
638
00:39:06,803 --> 00:39:08,847
For the first time ever,
prerecorded cassettes
639
00:39:08,972 --> 00:39:12,351
are beginning to rival sales
of the vinyl disc.
640
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:16,271
GRANATA: The thing
that really drove cassette sales
641
00:39:16,396 --> 00:39:19,983
was the advent
of a handheld cassette player
642
00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:21,985
that you could listen to
with headphones.
643
00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:34,915
LUDWIG: They came up with
a really good set of headphones
644
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,209
for these little Walkmans,
and for the first time,
645
00:39:37,334 --> 00:39:43,173
you could take a device this big
with a good set of headphones
646
00:39:43,298 --> 00:39:44,800
and climb the top
of Mount Everest,
647
00:39:44,925 --> 00:39:46,176
and you could listen
to a Mahler symphony
648
00:39:46,301 --> 00:39:48,220
and get chills down your spine.
649
00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:51,306
MAN:
The Sony Walkman
650
00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:54,851
has forever changed the way
the world listens to music.
651
00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:57,854
That was exciting new
technology, because basically,
652
00:39:57,979 --> 00:40:01,858
it inaugurated the era
of private listening.
653
00:40:01,983 --> 00:40:04,694
It was about walking in the
street with your headphones on
654
00:40:04,820 --> 00:40:09,074
and the music being contained
to your personal space.
655
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:11,410
DJ SPOOKY:
The idea that being able
656
00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:13,537
to have your own soundtrack
wherever you went,
657
00:40:13,662 --> 00:40:15,831
that's what really, I think,
changed the game.
658
00:40:17,416 --> 00:40:19,835
MILNER: You could actually take
them with you on the bus.
659
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,587
You had the sound
right there in your head.
660
00:40:32,264 --> 00:40:35,684
By 1983,
the labels had records,
661
00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:37,102
and they had cassettes.
662
00:40:37,227 --> 00:40:41,022
They didn't see anything
really new on the horizon.
663
00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:48,155
INTERPRETER: It's a disc,
a digital audio disc,
664
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,616
a gizmo so revolutionary
that backers hope it will make
665
00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:53,952
records and tapes obsolete.
666
00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:57,330
KNOPPER: The CD
sounded really, really good,
667
00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:58,957
but the record industry
has always been
668
00:40:59,082 --> 00:41:01,793
deeply suspicious
of new technology.
669
00:41:01,918 --> 00:41:04,546
Industry executives said, you
know, "No F'ing way," basically.
670
00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:06,840
"We will never get
the compact disc."
671
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:10,635
And the reason was because they
were so worried about piracy.
672
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,637
When you copied a CD
to a cassette tape,
673
00:41:12,762 --> 00:41:14,598
that was a pristine copy.
674
00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:17,184
But the CD was cool.
675
00:41:17,309 --> 00:41:20,437
At the time, it sounds
so quaint now, but it was shiny,
676
00:41:20,562 --> 00:41:23,023
and if you tilted it a certain
way, it looked like a rainbow.
677
00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:24,441
It didn't scratch,
678
00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:27,694
and you could play it,
potentially, in your car,
679
00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:30,280
and so the consumers
really liked this thing.
680
00:41:36,286 --> 00:41:37,996
And certain artists were saying,
681
00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:40,248
"We're gonna make
much greater-sounding records
682
00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:42,167
with this new technology."
683
00:41:42,292 --> 00:41:43,835
LUDWIG: Dire Straits,
"Brothers in Arms" --
684
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,545
It was really
the first compact disc
685
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:49,799
that I mastered
completely 100% as a CD.
686
00:41:59,392 --> 00:42:00,644
KNOPFLER:
"Brothers in Arms" itself
687
00:42:00,769 --> 00:42:02,479
struck a lot of chords
with people.
688
00:42:11,530 --> 00:42:14,366
This fellow
was a soldier in the Gulf War,
689
00:42:14,491 --> 00:42:16,701
and he said that they fought
this tank battle all night,
690
00:42:16,826 --> 00:42:20,288
and then in the dawn, they
just linked up all the tanks
691
00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:21,748
and played "Brothers in Arms."
692
00:42:33,093 --> 00:42:34,928
Sometimes, I'll write a song
693
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:37,639
that will somehow reverberate
with events,
694
00:42:37,764 --> 00:42:40,308
and it can just be a success.
695
00:42:40,433 --> 00:42:43,645
At the time, I was just
making another record.
696
00:42:45,772 --> 00:42:47,816
LUDWIG:
Not only was it a great record,
697
00:42:47,941 --> 00:42:49,651
it was a real landmark CD,
698
00:42:49,776 --> 00:42:51,903
and lots of people
bought compact discs
699
00:42:52,028 --> 00:42:53,488
because of that record.
700
00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,782
That record sold a lot
of CD players.
701
00:42:56,741 --> 00:42:58,076
QUARTARARO:
And towards the end of the '80s,
702
00:42:58,201 --> 00:43:01,204
people started
to rebuy their music
703
00:43:01,329 --> 00:43:02,455
they already owned on vinyl.
704
00:43:02,581 --> 00:43:06,209
They started to repurchase
the same collection on CD.
705
00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:10,755
$18, $19, $20 for a CD
that was really worth no more,
706
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,258
or maybe even less, than the LP.
707
00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:15,760
HADLEY:
They ran a bit of a hustle.
708
00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,263
They were able to sell CDs
709
00:43:18,388 --> 00:43:21,057
and have maybe
one or two good songs on it.
710
00:43:21,182 --> 00:43:23,685
IOVINE: You got a record deal,
you got one song,
711
00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:26,980
you put 17 other songs on
because they fit,
712
00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:31,234
and the people bought albums
for $18 that had one song on it.
713
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:35,447
WAS: When we look at the decline
in the popularity of the album
714
00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:38,700
and of sales,
I think that was just way worse
715
00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:40,410
than some college students
716
00:43:40,535 --> 00:43:42,621
downloading songs for free,
you know.
717
00:43:42,746 --> 00:43:46,207
It was, like, making
shitty records. [ Chuckles ]
718
00:43:49,127 --> 00:43:50,420
MAN:
With the click of a mouse,
719
00:43:50,545 --> 00:43:54,049
Napster allows fans
to download virtually any song
720
00:43:54,174 --> 00:43:55,300
completely free.
721
00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:57,344
MILNER:
In 1999, some college students
722
00:43:57,469 --> 00:44:00,180
created a file-sharing program
called Napster.
723
00:44:00,305 --> 00:44:02,390
HADLEY: All of a sudden,
people are like, "Wait a minute.
724
00:44:02,515 --> 00:44:04,768
I don't have to drive
to the record store, pay $20
725
00:44:04,893 --> 00:44:07,270
to buy a CD that just has
two songs on it that I like?
726
00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:12,359
I can sit at home and download
countless albums for nothing?"
727
00:44:12,484 --> 00:44:15,111
And it just was like
you just discovered
728
00:44:15,236 --> 00:44:16,655
this gold mine, you know.
729
00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:19,032
Just, all of a sudden,
all of the music you want
730
00:44:19,157 --> 00:44:22,994
is right there in front of you,
and it's very easy to download.
731
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,664
STRANG: When they put music up
for file sharing,
732
00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:28,041
40-some-odd million people came.
733
00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:29,501
And, you know,
there were other companies,
734
00:44:29,626 --> 00:44:31,211
like, giving away money
on the Internet,
735
00:44:31,336 --> 00:44:33,838
and you couldn't get
40 million people to come.
736
00:44:33,963 --> 00:44:36,966
So the power of music was
the first thing that struck me.
737
00:44:37,092 --> 00:44:38,218
I was like, "Wow."
738
00:44:38,343 --> 00:44:41,805
MILNER: The courts struck down
Napster after two years,
739
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:44,933
but by then,
there were all these services
740
00:44:45,058 --> 00:44:46,059
all over the Internet,
741
00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:50,855
and they all used
the same new format -- the MP3.
742
00:45:09,833 --> 00:45:11,668
I was taking my daughter
to school,
743
00:45:11,793 --> 00:45:14,129
and one of the parents
that I didn't know turned to me
744
00:45:14,254 --> 00:45:17,006
and said, "Congratulations
on being the mother of the MP3."
745
00:45:22,011 --> 00:45:24,097
So I went home and looked it up,
and, sure enough,
746
00:45:24,222 --> 00:45:27,225
it had this story
about how this engineer
747
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:30,061
called Karlheinz Brandenburg
had used
748
00:45:30,186 --> 00:45:33,606
the original unremixed version
of "Tom's Diner"
749
00:45:33,732 --> 00:45:36,943
to test this thing he was
working on, called the MP3.
750
00:45:38,194 --> 00:45:41,156
BRANDENBURG: My research was
how to compress music in a way
751
00:45:41,281 --> 00:45:43,283
so that it would fit
through a phone line,
752
00:45:43,408 --> 00:45:46,619
and I already thought,
"I'm pretty much done.
753
00:45:46,745 --> 00:45:48,079
Everything works well."
754
00:45:50,206 --> 00:45:52,792
Someone was playing
"Tom's Diner" down the hall.
755
00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:56,713
BRANDENBURG:
Suzanne Vega's voice
756
00:45:56,838 --> 00:45:59,883
sounds like
she is standing in a room,
757
00:46:00,008 --> 00:46:02,886
and it's a very clear
and clean voice, and I said,
758
00:46:03,011 --> 00:46:07,432
"Okay, I want to try to see
what our algorithms do with it."
759
00:46:14,856 --> 00:46:18,485
Unfortunately, Suzanne Vega's
voice was destroyed.
760
00:46:20,445 --> 00:46:21,863
It took us a couple of years
761
00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:27,243
until we really could do
her voice perfectly clean.
762
00:46:28,161 --> 00:46:30,830
VEGA: I had no idea
what would come next,
763
00:46:30,955 --> 00:46:33,458
and I met Karlheinz Brandenburg,
764
00:46:33,583 --> 00:46:35,794
and they were talking
about this great new thing
765
00:46:35,919 --> 00:46:37,128
that was just gonna be
the coolest.
766
00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:40,882
You could play music on
your phone, on your cellphone.
767
00:46:41,007 --> 00:46:43,051
I remember thinking
that's kind of -- Who cares?
768
00:46:43,176 --> 00:46:44,928
Like, I don't need to play music
on my phone.
769
00:46:45,053 --> 00:46:48,223
I just did not see
what the MP3 --
770
00:46:48,348 --> 00:46:49,641
what the future was gonna be.
771
00:46:49,766 --> 00:46:50,725
I didn't see it coming.
772
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:01,820
HADLEY: Early 2000s
are really tumultuous period,
773
00:47:01,945 --> 00:47:03,905
because a format change.
774
00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:06,366
Digital technologies
recalibrate almost everything
775
00:47:06,491 --> 00:47:07,909
about how we consume music.
776
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:14,415
WOMAN:
You plug it into your computer
777
00:47:14,541 --> 00:47:16,000
and download
your favorite songs.
778
00:47:16,125 --> 00:47:21,089
HADLEY: iTunes comes along and
is selling songs for 99 cents.
779
00:47:21,214 --> 00:47:22,924
The music industry
is just reeling.
780
00:47:24,133 --> 00:47:27,011
WOMAN: The best-selling digital
music player in the nation,
781
00:47:27,136 --> 00:47:29,889
revolutionizing the way
Americans of all ages
782
00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:31,140
listen to music.
783
00:47:31,266 --> 00:47:33,101
HADLEY:
MP3s unravel what we know
784
00:47:33,226 --> 00:47:35,186
about people wanting albums,
785
00:47:35,311 --> 00:47:36,563
and so, interestingly enough,
786
00:47:36,688 --> 00:47:38,731
we're back
to a singles-driven culture.
787
00:47:39,774 --> 00:47:41,234
We take it for granted now,
788
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:44,279
but then it was
a really remarkable concept
789
00:47:44,404 --> 00:47:48,533
that I could walk around
with 10,000 songs in my pocket?
790
00:47:50,410 --> 00:47:53,413
But then,
with the era of YouTube,
791
00:47:53,538 --> 00:47:55,164
one of the main pieces
of content
792
00:47:55,290 --> 00:47:56,916
that people want to upload
is music.
793
00:47:57,041 --> 00:47:58,459
They want to upload
their favorite song.
794
00:47:58,585 --> 00:47:59,794
They want to upload this video
795
00:47:59,919 --> 00:48:01,588
that they made
to their favorite song.
796
00:48:01,713 --> 00:48:03,423
And YouTube still, I believe,
797
00:48:03,548 --> 00:48:06,259
is the number-one music
streaming service in the world.
798
00:48:10,305 --> 00:48:12,265
Justin Bieber's songs
have been listened to --
799
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:15,393
Some of them have been listened
to 400 million times on YouTube.
800
00:48:15,518 --> 00:48:17,770
We listen to music
on our earbuds,
801
00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:21,816
over our telephones,
through computers.
802
00:48:22,775 --> 00:48:24,736
MAN: When I'm listening
to full albums on YouTube,
803
00:48:24,861 --> 00:48:25,945
people just upload them,
804
00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:28,281
and sometimes it'll just go
to the next video.
805
00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:30,825
Oddly enough, YouTube
is kind of like a new radio.
806
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:32,911
CDs are just disappearing,
you know?
807
00:48:33,036 --> 00:48:34,245
CDs are dead.
808
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:36,080
ROSEN:
Today, we have a format
809
00:48:36,205 --> 00:48:38,416
which is
almost an invisible format.
810
00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:39,918
There is an amazing amount of,
811
00:48:40,043 --> 00:48:41,544
you know,
these streaming services.
812
00:48:41,669 --> 00:48:44,631
My preferred method of
listening to music is Spotify.
813
00:48:44,756 --> 00:48:45,632
Soundcloud.
814
00:48:45,757 --> 00:48:46,966
I Heart Radio.
815
00:48:47,091 --> 00:48:48,217
Sometimes Pandora.
816
00:48:48,343 --> 00:48:50,219
Sometimes iTunes.
I'll buy songs.
817
00:48:50,345 --> 00:48:52,680
I don't know. I actually like
that it's not physical.
818
00:48:52,805 --> 00:48:55,016
I feel like it saves
time, energy, money.
819
00:48:55,141 --> 00:49:00,730
Our kids, our grandkids will
literally be baffled by the idea
820
00:49:00,855 --> 00:49:02,607
that, at one point,
people owned music.
821
00:49:02,732 --> 00:49:04,692
GARBUS:
Whether we like it or not,
822
00:49:04,817 --> 00:49:06,903
people want music
instantaneously
823
00:49:07,028 --> 00:49:08,154
at their fingertips.
824
00:49:08,279 --> 00:49:12,742
I do. I want to turn on my Rdio
or Spotify or whatever.
825
00:49:12,867 --> 00:49:15,328
I want to say
I really need to hear
826
00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:18,039
"Dancing in the Sheets"
by Shalamar right now.
827
00:49:24,087 --> 00:49:25,463
And I can have that, you know?
828
00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:27,590
That is just the world
that we live in.
829
00:49:29,217 --> 00:49:33,221
The problem I have
is discovering good new music.
830
00:49:33,346 --> 00:49:37,850
There's just an overwhelming
abundance of material.
831
00:49:37,976 --> 00:49:40,144
MANN: Trying to figure out
which technology,
832
00:49:40,269 --> 00:49:43,022
it became such a different
experience on so many levels
833
00:49:43,147 --> 00:49:44,732
that I just
stopped listening to music.
834
00:49:45,984 --> 00:49:48,528
It's only been lately
that I've started again
835
00:49:48,653 --> 00:49:50,863
and kind of almost
giving myself permission
836
00:49:50,989 --> 00:49:53,449
to jump back into stuff
from the '70s
837
00:49:53,574 --> 00:49:56,285
that I never paid
any attention to, like Bread.
838
00:50:06,921 --> 00:50:09,465
KNOPPER: The format shift
in the record industry,
839
00:50:09,590 --> 00:50:12,218
I mean, on average
is usually 15, 20 years.
840
00:50:12,343 --> 00:50:14,178
Everything's up in the air now.
841
00:50:14,303 --> 00:50:17,640
The next 5 to 10 years
will be super-interesting.
842
00:50:17,765 --> 00:50:25,523
But the power of music
will always be massive.
843
00:50:34,282 --> 00:50:35,199
MARGOULEFF:
It's about the song.
844
00:50:35,324 --> 00:50:37,702
It's about the art,
not the medium.
845
00:50:37,827 --> 00:50:41,664
BOYD: Music transcends
the technology, the format.
846
00:50:41,789 --> 00:50:45,418
Whatever form you give it to me
in, if the quality's good,
847
00:50:45,543 --> 00:50:47,462
if I can access
what I want to hear,
848
00:50:47,587 --> 00:50:49,255
I'm a happy man.
849
00:50:52,216 --> 00:50:55,595
QUARTARARO: What won't change
is your relationship with music,
850
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,513
because sometime this year,
851
00:50:57,638 --> 00:50:59,891
you're gonna hear a song
that makes you want to cry.
852
00:51:00,016 --> 00:51:03,227
And we human beings
have been trying to work out
853
00:51:03,352 --> 00:51:06,814
what it is about the mathematics
of the arrangement
854
00:51:06,939 --> 00:51:11,486
of musical notes that elicits
an emotional response in us,
855
00:51:11,611 --> 00:51:14,322
and it's still a mystery.
856
00:51:19,702 --> 00:51:21,996
Our lives are pretty much
defined by, what,
857
00:51:22,121 --> 00:51:24,457
I don't know, 20, 30 records?
858
00:51:24,582 --> 00:51:25,958
RZA:
How many ever years passes
859
00:51:26,084 --> 00:51:28,503
when you want to go back
to your high-school memory --
860
00:51:28,628 --> 00:51:29,921
A song could do it for you.
861
00:51:30,046 --> 00:51:32,340
There's always that piano,
that verse,
862
00:51:32,465 --> 00:51:36,135
that voice, that beat, that cut,
that scratch, that guitar riff,
863
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:37,804
that's gonna save your life.
864
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,393
I'm so grateful
to all the musicians
865
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:47,688
that made the music
that I ever heard,
866
00:51:47,814 --> 00:51:53,069
because it all went in,
and it enriched my life.
867
00:52:09,085 --> 00:52:12,380
And we've seen now
100 years of recorded sound,
868
00:52:12,505 --> 00:52:16,175
and we've seen the effect
of that sound on people,
869
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,053
and it has been
quite remarkable.
870
00:52:19,178 --> 00:52:20,471
It's changed our lives.
66078
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