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[tape rewinding]
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[percussive hip-hop beat]
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[smooth hip-hop beat]
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[bassy hip-hop beat]
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[heavy hip-hop beat]
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- Of course it begins shaky.
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Here you have a DJ basically
selling your record.
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[laughs]
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There's clearly an FBI warning
on every label.
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[laughs]
It is what it is.
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[chill music]
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- A mixtape was everything.
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- It was like sneakers.
You went on the hunt for 'em.
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- Whatever the relevance of
social media is,
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that's what a mixtape was
at that time.
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- You could never
disrespect a mixtape.
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- We were the tastemakers, man.
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- I freestyled on
one of his tapes.
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When I was walking out,
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Tupac was walking out,
Biggie was coming in.
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- Biggie was excited about
the Best of Biggie Mixtape.
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He's like, "yo, I'm hearing
the mixtape
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more than my album."
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- That was our whole outlet.
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We was platinum on mixtapes.
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- So I would take
people's commercial hits,
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keep some of the melodies,
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but aim it straight at
the neighborhoods.
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- Instead of playing albums,
they were blasting mixtapes.
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- When "Tha Carter III" sold
a million the first week,
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we weren't surprised
necessarily
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because of the mixtapes.
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- A mixtape is a personal
playlist from a DJ
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who feels this is the way
the sequence should be.
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This is the story
I'm trying to tell.
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These are the artists that
I feel are the ones
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that are creating the vibe.
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And here it is from
my perspective.
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That's a mixtape.
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- Well, the beginning
starts off, in my memory,
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with a gold Maxell cassette.
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- Brothers and sisters,
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I don't know what
this world is coming to!
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[Public Enemy's
"Rebel Without a Pause"]
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- ♪ Yes, the rhythm,
the rebel ♪
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♪ Without a pause,
I'm lowering my level ♪
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♪ The hard rhymer,
where you never been, I'm in ♪
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♪ You want stylin'?
You know it's time again ♪
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♪ D, the enemy,
tellin' you to hear it ♪
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♪ They praised the music ♪
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♪ This time
they play the lyrics ♪
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♪ Some say no to the album,
The Show ♪
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♪ Bum Rush, the sound,
I made a year ago ♪
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♪ I guess you know,
you guess I'm just a radical ♪
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♪ Not on sabbatical,
yes, to make it critical ♪
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♪ The only party your body
should be partyin' to ♪
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♪ Panther power on the hour
from the rebel to you ♪
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- Ay, yo, Chuck, man.
I don't understand this, man!
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Yo, you got to slow down, man,
you losin' them!
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- ♪ Radio,
suckers never play me ♪
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♪ On the mix,
they just okay me ♪
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♪ Now, known and grown ♪
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♪ When they're clocking
my zone, it's known ♪
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♪ Snaking and taking ♪
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♪ Everything that
a brother owns ♪
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- ♪ Hard ♪
- ♪ My calling card ♪
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♪ Recorded and ordered,
supporter of Chesimard ♪
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♪ Loud and proud, kicking
live next, poet supreme ♪
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♪ Loop a troop,
bazooka, the scheme ♪
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- ♪ Flavor ♪
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- ♪ A rebel in his own mind,
supporter of my rhyme ♪
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♪ Designed to scatter
a line of suckers ♪
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♪ Who claim I do crime ♪
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♪ They on my time ticket ♪
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[bell tolls]
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- Uh.
Uh, uh, uh.
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- [rapping indistinctly]
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- Uh, yeah.
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We're lowey and
we're good to go-ey.
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- Tony Touch.
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- We couldn't upload hip-hop.
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We couldn't download hip-hop.
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We couldn't burn hip-hop
to a CD.
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We physically had to be there.
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You had to be there.
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And the only other way
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that you could walk away
from hip-hop
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and still hear it
is if you had a tape.
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- Is New York in the house?
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Say it now.
- Yes.
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[hip-hop music]
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- Think of New York as just--
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- If you're talking
about the '80s--
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- I'ma be very honest
with you, man.
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- Yeah, New York was funky
back then.
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[laughs] I know.
I can say it firsthand.
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- It was the--
it was a lot of hustling,
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you know, the drug era.
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- I got mugged almost
double digits as a kid.
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- I would go into the bus,
or the train station,
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I would snatch the jewelry,
run off the bus.
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I'm just that kind of
grimy nigga.
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I'm in New York, Brooklyn,
grimy Brownsville nigga.
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- People wanting to hustle
and get money,
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and trying to live fast
and survive.
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- Regular project shit.
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[hip-hop music]
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- So, you know, I saw
a lot of the hustlers
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making their money.
- It was mostly drug money.
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- For me, growing up not
knowing what you wanna do,
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you see influences, right?
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- I was offered to be
in the street
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and do certain things
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that could have probably got me
very rich very quick,
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or very dead very quick.
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- Well, you get a little money
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and now you on the block
or you on the corner.
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- I chose that while they gon'
sell $20 cracks,
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I'ma sell $20 tapes.
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I'ma get what they got,
just a little slower.
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- We were hustling for
two different causes.
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Some would be for the origin
of what hip-hop is,
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and you being a DJ,
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and then the origin of
being a hustler.
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So we combined the two.
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- This is a reel of
recording tape.
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For years, people have been
threading it,
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spilling it, tangling with it,
and sometimes breaking it.
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- Cassettes were a result of
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kind of this constant
technological quest
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to make things smaller
and more powerful.
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- The cassette made it
so that you could record it
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and then you could
move around with it.
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- When I was a kid, I thought
they looked like LEGOs.
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[laughter]
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- You could take it
into your car.
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You could listen to it
on your Walkman.
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- Not just share music,
but decide what music
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they wanna be shared
and in what way.
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- That was our Spotify.
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That was our place
that we'd go.
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- Like, look. You're not in
the streets hanging out,
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but this is what
we was doing last night.
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- That was their
Instagram page.
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That was their Twitter.
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- That was the Hot 97 of
the streets, man, the tapes.
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- The first time
I heard a mixtape
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it wasn't called a mixtape.
It was--
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- Loads of live recording.
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- They were tapes of
jams in the park.
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They were tapes of
club performances.
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- You got all these groups
that aren't really recording,
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they're just performing.
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Their live shows are being
documented on cassette.
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And those cassettes
are circulating.
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- Some of the first
hip-hop I experienced
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was listening to
these party tapes.
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[smooth music]
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- Who's that girl?
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- We knew the exact feet to
stand away
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from that blasting speaker
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to catch the DJ and the emcee
that was rocking
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where it wouldn't be staticky.
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- If I had the newest
Cold Crush Brothers tape,
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I could be 15 and sit
with a conversation
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with people 20 years old.
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Because you had
to dub it from me.
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You had to ask me
where I got it.
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And that warranted us
to have conversation.
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- ♪ We battle fantastic ♪
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♪ And here's a little gift ♪
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♪ To let you know,
before you go ♪
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♪ Just who
you're fucking with ♪
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- The recording was so low-fi
you felt like you were there.
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You could hear
needle scratches.
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You could hear people
in the background.
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- You have to imagine what
this was in your own mind.
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Imagine the environment.
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- "Yo, yo, Murph,
go get me a drink."
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This is on the tape.
- You imagine yourself there.
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- The cassette is actually
making you more intelligent
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about what you're doing,
'cause you can't see it.
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- And you wanna go there.
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- So you have to create in
your own mind the scenario,
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the situation,
just like reading a book.
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- "Back up off the ropes.
Back up off the ropes."
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And they'd be like--
♪ Mary, Mary ♪
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♪ Where are you going to ♪
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On.
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- ♪ Party people,
gon' get funky ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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[hip-hop music]
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- Then I'd be like--I just be
feeling like I'm in there, man.
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♪ ♪
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- Cold Crush,
Fantastic 5, Force MDs...
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- Grandmaster Vic,
block parties...
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- Zulu Nation, Afrika Islam,
Afrika Bambaataa,
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Red Alert, Jazzy J...
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- Bizzy Bee,
Kool Moe Dee battle.
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- Mr. T-Bone, Teddy Ted,
Lil Black,
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Cisco Kid, and Eazy AD.
- Mm.
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- So that was before--
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before Grandmaster Caz, JDL...
- Wow.
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- And KG got into
Cold Crush Brothers.
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- What year is this?
- That was '77.
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- And what mixtape,
like a party tape?
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- No.
I was just a party tape.
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You know, the crazy thing
is that DJs didn't even
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make their own mixtapes.
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It was somebody just literally
bootlegging the event.
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[hip-hop music]
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- The music was--
was bursting at the seams,
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couldn't be contained.
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There had to be people
who were selectors.
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You had club DJs.
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You waited all week
for that Thursday night,
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Friday night, Saturday night,
whatever it was,
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to hear the best music,
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and to be exposed to music
you did not know of.
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- Just hearing it live--
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just hearing the emcee on
the mic live,
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and the DJ bringing the record
back and forth--
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and you could hear the crowd
in the background.
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Oh, man, I was mesmerized.
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I wanna be a part of this.
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[record scratching]
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- What we'd do hours in a--
at a time,
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in our living room or
in a bedroom.
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12 hours, doing the same thing.
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That's how we got to
where we are today.
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Here we go, baby. Here we go.
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Showtime, damn it.
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[LL Cool J's "Rock The Bells"]
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Showtime.
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- ♪ LL Cool J is
hard as hell ♪
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♪ I'll battle anybody,
I don't care who you tell ♪
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[record scratching]
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- Like, I always used to want--
like, make whatever artist
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have a stuttering problem.
- [chuckles]
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♪ ♪
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- Woo!
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Woo!
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Yes.
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Oh, Where's that at?
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- After the live party scene,
249
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everyone is making
their own cassettes.
250
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My grandmother used to have
Maxell cassette tapes.
251
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She used to go and
she used to have a--
252
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a tape recorder, like,
a flat, square joint
253
00:10:32,457 --> 00:10:34,198
that she'd go to church with.
254
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She would record the services.
255
00:10:36,331 --> 00:10:38,420
And I would take
the toilet paper
256
00:10:38,507 --> 00:10:41,075
and put it inside
the little hole, tape over it.
257
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- Now everyone
taping the radio.
258
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- We are out of time.
259
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That's it for
our show this week.
260
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Our associate producer
is Bob Pickett.
261
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I'm Bob Slade.
Keep a good thought.
262
00:10:50,301 --> 00:10:52,434
- There used to be this guy
named Bob Slade
263
00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:54,741
who used to do, like, this just
public service announcement
264
00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:56,307
before the rap show.
265
00:10:56,394 --> 00:10:59,310
It was just a cappella
with a whole lot of reverb.
266
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You could hear each of the cars
putting it on before 9:00,
267
00:11:03,053 --> 00:11:04,664
because they--they didn't--
268
00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:06,666
you didn't wanna miss
the first shit.
269
00:11:06,753 --> 00:11:09,625
- 'Cause hip-hop was playing on
the radio for, like, one hour.
270
00:11:09,712 --> 00:11:11,801
- So you would hear his voice.
271
00:11:11,888 --> 00:11:13,498
- Like, you had to
have that hour.
272
00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:16,066
- And it became synonymous
with hip-hop.
273
00:11:16,153 --> 00:11:20,331
- It's time for
♪ DJ Red Alert ♪
274
00:11:20,418 --> 00:11:22,551
- Radio used to be very uncool.
275
00:11:22,638 --> 00:11:25,641
Grandmaster Flash was offered
a radio show
276
00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:28,296
when it was called XLO,
before it was Kiss FM,
277
00:11:28,383 --> 00:11:29,471
and he turned it down.
278
00:11:29,558 --> 00:11:31,081
Bambaataa quit.
279
00:11:31,168 --> 00:11:32,300
He was there for
a couple weeks.
280
00:11:32,387 --> 00:11:33,910
Jazzy J quit.
281
00:11:33,997 --> 00:11:35,216
He was there for
a couple weeks.
282
00:11:36,739 --> 00:11:38,306
But Red Alert stayed.
283
00:11:38,393 --> 00:11:42,353
- You may hear me play,
like, you know, some R&B,
284
00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,530
like a Kashif or Lillo Thomas,
just to name a few.
285
00:11:45,617 --> 00:11:47,750
And then I put in,
along with it,
286
00:11:47,837 --> 00:11:49,883
some "Rock It"
by Herbie Hancock,
287
00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:52,276
and some Run DMC, some Whodini.
288
00:11:52,363 --> 00:11:56,367
- He was the beginning,
the first uptown on the radio.
289
00:11:56,454 --> 00:11:59,631
Radio only was on in New York
from 9:00 PM to 12:00 midnight.
290
00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:00,850
But don't get it fucked up.
291
00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:03,461
I can't explain to you
what it was like
292
00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:07,335
to hear, like, Chuck D or
Flavor Flav on a drop saying--
293
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- Yeah, boy!
294
00:12:10,642 --> 00:12:11,687
- See ya!
- See ya!
295
00:12:11,774 --> 00:12:12,949
- Rock the jam, y'all!
296
00:12:13,036 --> 00:12:15,952
[hip-hop music]
297
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♪ ♪
298
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- There was a club called
Harlem World.
299
00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:22,437
Brucie and Starchild
used to DJ up there.
300
00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:24,134
The hustlers, the drug dealers,
301
00:12:24,221 --> 00:12:26,963
that was coming there was
hearing these tapes.
302
00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:28,704
"Now, how much for that tape?
303
00:12:28,791 --> 00:12:31,141
I'll pay you $100 right now,
because that's the only tape."
304
00:12:31,228 --> 00:12:34,797
- "I got a personalized
so-and-so mixtape."
305
00:12:34,884 --> 00:12:36,886
- You got to remember, we would
have killers, and drug dealers,
306
00:12:36,973 --> 00:12:38,758
all kind of
crazy motherfuckers in there.
307
00:12:38,845 --> 00:12:42,631
Like, Alpo used to buy
tape from me for $500.
308
00:12:42,718 --> 00:12:44,241
"Yo, give me that tape."
Nah, I can't do it, Po.
309
00:12:44,328 --> 00:12:45,677
"I'll give you 100."
Nah.
310
00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,114
"Give you $300." Nah.
"I'll give you $500."
311
00:12:47,201 --> 00:12:48,550
Here, take the fucking tape,
Po.
312
00:12:48,637 --> 00:12:50,378
[laughs]
Take that, right?
313
00:12:50,465 --> 00:12:53,076
- Or they'll go ahead and say,
"yo, can you make a tape for me
314
00:12:53,163 --> 00:12:54,338
shouting my name out?"
315
00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:55,949
- We would make the tape
right there,
316
00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:57,298
and they would come in,
we'd shout them on the tape
317
00:12:57,385 --> 00:12:58,386
right there when they came in.
318
00:12:58,473 --> 00:13:00,344
- March 17th, Rooftop.
319
00:13:00,431 --> 00:13:03,130
- Yo, shout out this Alpo and
Rich Porter at The Rooftop.
320
00:13:03,217 --> 00:13:04,740
- And I used to have, like,
cheese lines.
321
00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:06,437
Like, 'cause everybody knew
I had an operation.
322
00:13:06,524 --> 00:13:08,309
I would do Friday,
323
00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:09,614
but I wouldn't sell you
Friday's tape
324
00:13:09,701 --> 00:13:11,660
because, you know,
Friday was for next week.
325
00:13:11,747 --> 00:13:13,749
I'm selling you
last week's tape.
326
00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:18,101
- The exciting tape
emerged from Brucie B.
327
00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:19,886
He became the standard.
328
00:13:19,973 --> 00:13:21,583
- They'll tell you beachside,
the little line.
329
00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:22,976
They thought I was selling coke
and cracks in my booth,
330
00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:24,194
but it was just tapes,
you know?
331
00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:25,935
- [laughs]
- Yeah.
332
00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:29,809
- He'll have five tape decks,
and he'll copy the tapes.
333
00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:32,289
Then he'll take the four tapes
that he made,
334
00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:33,769
sell those tapes,
335
00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:35,553
take the fifth tape
and copy that one,
336
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,860
and start the next one
and sell it for $20.
337
00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:39,427
He said, "Okay, we'll get
together.
338
00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,124
I take ten, you take ten."
339
00:13:41,211 --> 00:13:43,518
We were cleaning they ass up.
340
00:13:43,605 --> 00:13:46,042
Yo, we were cleaning
they ass up.
341
00:13:46,129 --> 00:13:48,305
- If you really wanna
be honest--
342
00:13:48,392 --> 00:13:49,698
- That's what it really was.
343
00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:51,743
It was the soundtrack
to the drug dealers.
344
00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:58,359
- To record an instrumental
track for dudes to rap over,
345
00:13:58,446 --> 00:14:00,274
you needed a band and a studio.
346
00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:02,711
And, you know, all that was,
you know, really expensive.
347
00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:05,148
Taking any turntable
and recording
348
00:14:05,235 --> 00:14:07,455
a break into a tape--
349
00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:10,414
you know,
you pressed record and paused.
350
00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:12,329
The tape was paused.
351
00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:13,461
The break is coming.
352
00:14:13,548 --> 00:14:15,593
- [vocalizing]
353
00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,204
- Go to the break part.
354
00:14:17,291 --> 00:14:19,684
- You release the pause
right on the one.
355
00:14:19,771 --> 00:14:23,036
- Play your song again.
[vocalizing]
356
00:14:23,123 --> 00:14:25,952
- Stop it right on beat,
roll back, do it again.
357
00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,693
- And you had to go play
whatever your source was
358
00:14:28,780 --> 00:14:31,174
ten times onto the cassette,
359
00:14:31,261 --> 00:14:35,831
use the pause button as
the joint between each loop.
360
00:14:35,918 --> 00:14:38,138
So now you get 16 bars out.
361
00:14:38,225 --> 00:14:41,141
Young kids were doing this
in the hood
362
00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:45,797
to get a bed of music that they
liked from a certain record.
363
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,887
[knock on door]
- Yo, yo.
364
00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:49,149
- What up, Tone?
Come down, man.
365
00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:50,715
- Oh, yo.
- Hang out, man.
366
00:14:50,802 --> 00:14:52,717
- What's happening?
367
00:14:52,804 --> 00:14:54,850
Yo, man.
- Little messy in here.
368
00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:57,461
- Oh, man. This is fly, B.
369
00:14:57,548 --> 00:14:59,637
- The biggest impact
of all time
370
00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:01,944
for this whole
mixtape phenomenon,
371
00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:03,903
it goes straight to Kid Capri.
372
00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:07,341
- Kid Capri lit up the room
the moment he walked in it.
373
00:15:07,428 --> 00:15:08,690
- This Kid Capri's
a living legend.
374
00:15:08,777 --> 00:15:10,170
- There was great DJs,
375
00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:11,606
Jam Master Jay,
all these dudes,
376
00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:13,347
and they were superstars.
377
00:15:13,434 --> 00:15:15,479
But they were superstars
behind a group.
378
00:15:15,566 --> 00:15:17,917
I wanted to be the dude.
I wanted to be the mic.
379
00:15:18,004 --> 00:15:19,788
I wanted to be everything.
380
00:15:19,875 --> 00:15:22,747
- What Brucie B created,
381
00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:25,359
he put it on steroids.
382
00:15:25,446 --> 00:15:27,448
- I used to just make
these little tapes for myself.
383
00:15:27,535 --> 00:15:29,798
When you heard 'em, you know,
you felt like you was there.
384
00:15:29,885 --> 00:15:32,322
- He was able to sort of
capture an experience.
385
00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:33,715
- It could be in my hallway
386
00:15:33,802 --> 00:15:35,412
and sound like
it was a live show.
387
00:15:35,499 --> 00:15:37,414
- It wasn't, like,
just someone kind of at home.
388
00:15:37,501 --> 00:15:39,068
Like, he brought
the energy that
389
00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:40,852
he would give you in a club.
390
00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:44,117
- His voice felt like it was
cutting the paint off the wall.
391
00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:46,858
- Check one, two!
392
00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:49,600
Now I got police cars
driving by playing my shit.
393
00:15:49,687 --> 00:15:51,994
I got Mister Softee pulling up
playing my shit
394
00:15:52,081 --> 00:15:53,256
when he's supposed to be
playing--
395
00:15:53,343 --> 00:15:55,955
[vocalizes ice cream jingle]
396
00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:59,567
Once I seen what it did and
what the possibilities was,
397
00:15:59,654 --> 00:16:01,743
then the business head came.
398
00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:03,745
- For some reason,
399
00:16:03,832 --> 00:16:06,008
in front of the Apollo Theater
was this dude...
400
00:16:06,095 --> 00:16:10,491
[laughs]
selling the crazy shit.
401
00:16:10,578 --> 00:16:12,362
- He don't remember this.
I tell him this all the time.
402
00:16:12,449 --> 00:16:15,800
He chased my truck
three blocks down 3rd Avenue
403
00:16:15,887 --> 00:16:19,282
trying to give me
a free mixtape before he blew.
404
00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:21,023
"Play this. Play this."
405
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:22,416
And we put it in.
406
00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:25,767
♪ Something tell you that
I wouldn't do ♪
407
00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:28,204
♪ 'Cause you love me, baby ♪
408
00:16:28,291 --> 00:16:30,206
"It's the world famous
Kid Capri!"
409
00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:31,686
And we--
[screaming]
410
00:16:31,773 --> 00:16:34,428
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So--
411
00:16:34,515 --> 00:16:36,865
- 145th Street in Harlem was
the main spot
412
00:16:36,952 --> 00:16:38,649
where all the ballers,
all the players would go,
413
00:16:38,736 --> 00:16:39,781
all the chicks would go.
414
00:16:39,868 --> 00:16:41,522
After the clubs let out,
415
00:16:41,609 --> 00:16:44,394
everybody would go there to
Willie's Burgers.
416
00:16:44,481 --> 00:16:48,094
I would sit there in awe
just watching the cars go by--
417
00:16:48,181 --> 00:16:50,966
the BMWs and the Mercedes,
and the Jettas kitted up
418
00:16:51,053 --> 00:16:54,274
with Kid Capri, those voices,
coming out of those cars.
419
00:16:54,361 --> 00:16:56,102
- My purpose was to get known
420
00:16:56,189 --> 00:16:58,800
and also make a little bit of
money while I was doing it.
421
00:16:58,887 --> 00:17:01,629
[hip-hop music]
422
00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:03,500
- Kid Capri, 52 Beats,
423
00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:05,546
that's the all-time greatest
mixtape, to me, to this day.
424
00:17:05,633 --> 00:17:07,635
- ♪ Something in the way
you make me feel ♪
425
00:17:07,722 --> 00:17:09,506
- It's the Kid Capri.
By all means, jump inside.
426
00:17:09,593 --> 00:17:11,726
Go down.
427
00:17:11,813 --> 00:17:13,815
- He had a mix of
"Impeach the President"
428
00:17:13,902 --> 00:17:15,643
and this song called
429
00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:18,559
"Something in the Way
You Make me Feel."
430
00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:22,084
You could stop at a stoplight
in Harlem, one block,
431
00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:23,868
you could stop the next block,
432
00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,306
and you could stop
five blocks up.
433
00:17:26,393 --> 00:17:28,612
There'd be a car at
every light playing that mix
434
00:17:28,699 --> 00:17:31,354
in a different spot.
435
00:17:31,441 --> 00:17:33,617
That's like a radio station.
436
00:17:33,704 --> 00:17:35,228
- Like, I'm nowhere.
I have no group.
437
00:17:35,315 --> 00:17:38,144
I'm not on the radio, nothing.
438
00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:40,842
But I could go get a cassette,
play some hot shit.
439
00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:44,150
If my mix is something you
bump in your ride,
440
00:17:44,237 --> 00:17:46,500
I'm somebody.
441
00:17:46,587 --> 00:17:48,502
- Me doing
the Stephanie Mills mix
442
00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:50,025
with the break beat
to "Impeach the President,"
443
00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,505
I didn't know that
I was changing
444
00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:53,942
the whole '90s hip-hop
era of music.
445
00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:56,075
You now had to sing on
the break beat.
446
00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:02,951
- After we get
the initial shock of Capri,
447
00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:07,956
the mixtape market,
with Doo Wop, S&S...
448
00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:09,262
[bell tolls]
449
00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:10,480
We explode.
450
00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:13,483
[explosion]
451
00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,572
- Kid Capri.
- Brucie B.
452
00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:17,008
- Kid Capri.
- Triple C.
453
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:18,358
- Hard Candy.
- Ron G.
454
00:18:18,445 --> 00:18:20,055
- Mr. C.
- Doo Wop.
455
00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,491
- S&S.
- Ron G.
456
00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:24,494
Remember DJ Ron G was off
the fucking hook, right?
457
00:18:24,581 --> 00:18:26,366
- Don't even start
calling names.
458
00:18:26,453 --> 00:18:28,368
- DJ Screw.
- Recipes. DJ Screw.
459
00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:29,760
- DJ Jazzy Jeff.
460
00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:32,111
- Tony Touch.
- G-Bo the Pro, Double R.
461
00:18:32,198 --> 00:18:33,982
- Tony Touch.
- Clark Kent.
462
00:18:34,069 --> 00:18:35,679
- Jazzy Joyce.
- Craig G.
463
00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:36,680
- Funk Master Flex.
464
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,856
- Tony Touch. Doo Wop.
465
00:18:38,943 --> 00:18:40,597
- Wherever you got it from--
the barber shop,
466
00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:42,860
the corner store,
the blanket on the street--
467
00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:44,993
you was gonna get your fix.
468
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,517
- I'm getting the idea that,
like, if I don't buy this tape,
469
00:18:47,604 --> 00:18:49,302
I cannot hear this
anywhere else.
470
00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:51,217
- It was an invisible market.
471
00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:56,961
That market was not measured
by any analytics companies.
472
00:18:57,048 --> 00:18:58,876
You have to have your ear
to the street.
473
00:18:58,963 --> 00:19:00,443
- We was the product.
- We're the product.
474
00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:02,489
- They was the dealers.
- Yeah.
475
00:19:04,012 --> 00:19:04,665
[tape rewinding]
476
00:19:04,752 --> 00:19:06,014
- Get the--
477
00:19:06,101 --> 00:19:07,494
[tape rewinding]
478
00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:09,104
- Yo, yo, Redman.
479
00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:12,151
- Yo, yo, Toneman.
What the fuck, toca?
480
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:14,979
Get the fuck off that
punk smooth shit.
481
00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:18,896
Get with that rough shit.
You know how we do.
482
00:19:18,983 --> 00:19:21,072
- ♪ Yeah, it's the love
and hate theory ♪
483
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,988
♪ Tax free, can't Google
what I make yearly ♪
484
00:19:24,075 --> 00:19:26,643
♪ When you mix pain with rage,
you get fairy ♪
485
00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:29,168
♪ I don't hear the talent,
I just see the fake jury ♪
486
00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:30,734
♪ Please don't compare me ♪
487
00:19:30,821 --> 00:19:32,519
♪ Whoever you thinking
about going to get ♪
488
00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,347
♪ They can't fuck with me,
clearly ♪
489
00:19:34,434 --> 00:19:37,132
♪ The minute that I lace up
my boots, it's kind of scary ♪
490
00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:40,048
♪ These bars came from
the Roots, Alex Haley ♪
491
00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:42,572
♪ You got hate in your blood,
and you kept hating ♪
492
00:19:42,659 --> 00:19:44,661
♪ Me? I just caked up
and I kept taking ♪
493
00:19:44,748 --> 00:19:47,838
♪ Easy money sniper,
call 'em the next Kevin ♪
494
00:19:47,925 --> 00:19:50,145
♪ Headshots, don't even
bother with Excedrin ♪
495
00:19:50,232 --> 00:19:53,235
♪ Knowing the dudes that
call him the next Devin ♪
496
00:19:53,322 --> 00:19:55,933
♪ And I'm thinking
Lambo truck or the X7 ♪
497
00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:58,327
♪ Ha, I inspired
to keep earning ♪
498
00:19:58,414 --> 00:20:01,156
♪ Party and bullshit,
it's time you just burn it ♪
499
00:20:01,243 --> 00:20:03,332
♪ Success when you have
the desire to keep learning ♪
500
00:20:03,419 --> 00:20:04,725
♪ Till the wheels fall off ♪
501
00:20:04,812 --> 00:20:06,596
♪ Then the tires will
keep turning ♪
502
00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:09,164
♪ Uh. D-block, so raspy ♪
503
00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:12,385
♪ You already know what it is,
so don't ask me ♪
504
00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:13,734
♪ ♪
505
00:20:13,821 --> 00:20:14,996
Ha-ha!
506
00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:17,564
♪ Yeah ♪
507
00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:23,396
♪ ♪
508
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,964
- Some of the older guys, like,
would have a radio outside.
509
00:20:27,051 --> 00:20:30,490
And this radio would play
Doo Wop or Ron G mixtapes
510
00:20:30,577 --> 00:20:34,755
or S&S or whoever was
the mixtape DJs at the time.
511
00:20:34,842 --> 00:20:37,714
You would hear those tapes,
how they were made,
512
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:41,283
put together,
the blueprint for a mixtape.
513
00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:44,025
- You know,
you find your own lane.
514
00:20:44,112 --> 00:20:45,505
- ♪ On top with
the underground ♪
515
00:20:45,592 --> 00:20:47,463
- I would rhyme on my tapes.
Ron G would blend.
516
00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,465
- Ron, come on, Ron G!
517
00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:52,686
[stammering]
Ah!
518
00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:54,862
- Yo, you had Ron G tape,
you were smashing.
519
00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:56,124
I'm telling you right now.
520
00:20:56,211 --> 00:20:58,300
You was with a chick,
you smashing.
521
00:20:58,387 --> 00:20:59,997
- My mother, being that
she didn't like
522
00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,695
the hip-hop at the time,
523
00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:04,001
and she used to be playing
all these old school records--
524
00:21:04,088 --> 00:21:06,569
Lou Rawls, Michael Jackson,
Diana Ross--
525
00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:09,703
I was able to take
a lot of those songs.
526
00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:12,749
I'd start playing the songs
off from the cassette.
527
00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:14,795
And then I can hear
the beat behind it,
528
00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:18,320
but then I would record it
on another tape deck.
529
00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:21,845
- ♪ It's nothing that
I'd rather do ♪
530
00:21:25,458 --> 00:21:27,503
- Doo Wop had a tape
that was legendary,
531
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:29,549
which was 95 Live.
532
00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:32,029
- Nobody had known rappers
rhyming on they tape
533
00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:34,075
at the time, nobody.
534
00:21:34,162 --> 00:21:35,381
♪ Who is this, doing this
synthetic type of ♪
535
00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:37,165
♪ Alpha-beta psychedelic
fucking ♪
536
00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:38,601
♪ Emphasis from
the funk abyss ♪
537
00:21:38,688 --> 00:21:40,342
♪ Blowing up the spot ♪
538
00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:42,866
I was just trying to separate
myself from everybody else.
539
00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:45,042
- Doo Wop was the first DJ
to feature
540
00:21:45,129 --> 00:21:46,740
all these freestyles
on a mixtape.
541
00:21:46,827 --> 00:21:48,089
- I loved Doo Wop tapes.
542
00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:49,177
A lot of mixtapes was, like,
forcing it.
543
00:21:49,264 --> 00:21:50,744
And he was just always cool.
544
00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:52,354
And I felt like if he said
545
00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:53,660
he fuck with it,
he really fucked with it.
546
00:21:53,747 --> 00:21:55,923
- It had everybody
who was everybody
547
00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:58,534
with a freestyle.
548
00:21:58,621 --> 00:22:00,971
- ♪ Scout sewing up the
Brooklyn ballers is who I be ♪
549
00:22:01,058 --> 00:22:04,018
♪ When I was young, I used to
hang a nigga from a tree ♪
550
00:22:04,105 --> 00:22:06,542
- In a studio that could only
fit about three people,
551
00:22:06,629 --> 00:22:10,111
I had MOP, Q-Tip,
Busta Rhymes, Fat Joe,
552
00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:13,244
the engineer, and like,
five of my people.
553
00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,377
- ♪ I'm down with the Busta,
straight from the under ♪
554
00:22:15,464 --> 00:22:16,857
♪ Just like Stevie Wonder ♪
555
00:22:16,944 --> 00:22:17,858
♪ You about to feel
the thunder ♪
556
00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:19,512
- They was there 'cause
they wanted to be
557
00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:21,340
on a mixtape, period,
558
00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:23,733
because they could say things
on the mixtape
559
00:22:23,820 --> 00:22:25,822
that they can't say
on a record label.
560
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:28,782
- The top story, evening news,
I'm the shit.
561
00:22:28,869 --> 00:22:30,610
They been deceiving you.
562
00:22:30,697 --> 00:22:34,614
- They'd be censored or they
might wanna air out a beef
563
00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:36,529
or something that they can't do
on the record label.
564
00:22:36,616 --> 00:22:38,357
So they did it on the mixtapes.
565
00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:42,970
- My favorite, G-Bo
the Pro and Double R.
566
00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:47,191
- You know, because we were
doing it on a four-track,
567
00:22:47,278 --> 00:22:48,410
it wasn't traditional DJing.
568
00:22:48,497 --> 00:22:50,847
It was lay down one record...
569
00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:52,022
- ♪ Bring it back, come back ♪
570
00:22:52,109 --> 00:22:54,024
- Stop the tape, rewind it.
571
00:22:54,111 --> 00:22:55,939
- ♪ Heal up, wheel up,
bring it back, come rewind ♪
572
00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:57,941
- Lay another one on top of it.
573
00:22:58,028 --> 00:23:01,249
- ♪ Powerful impact, powerful
impact, powerful impact ♪
574
00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:02,772
♪ Boom, come back ♪
575
00:23:02,859 --> 00:23:04,557
- Whoa, this is--
this is no longer a mixtape.
576
00:23:04,644 --> 00:23:06,646
This is--this is a production.
577
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,212
- The production was
incredible.
578
00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:09,910
The vibe was incredible.
579
00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:12,216
And it really showed us
the power of the music
580
00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:14,175
and what we could do.
581
00:23:14,262 --> 00:23:16,569
- ♪ You know Monica? She got
a sister named Veronica ♪
582
00:23:16,656 --> 00:23:18,353
♪ There is no girl
nowhere around like her ♪
583
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,095
♪ You wanna talk to her?
Don't be hasty ♪
584
00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:23,532
♪ Her attitude is bitter
but she looks real tasty ♪
585
00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:26,013
♪ The type of girl you dream
about marrying ♪
586
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:28,145
♪ Her nationality is
Trinidadian ♪
587
00:23:28,232 --> 00:23:30,234
♪ She used to catch
the Number Four out of Utica ♪
588
00:23:30,321 --> 00:23:32,802
♪ I used to fantasize about
what I'ma do to her ♪
589
00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:34,413
♪ But she would speak on
my dress code ♪
590
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,327
♪ Better leave now
that my suits ♪
591
00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,894
- And then you had the guys
down south making mixtapes.
592
00:23:37,981 --> 00:23:39,592
- You get to DJ Screw.
593
00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:42,159
- Houston shit was all about
that slowed down aesthetic,
594
00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:44,379
that ambient cloud shit.
595
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:45,859
- That was
a whole different animal,
596
00:23:45,946 --> 00:23:47,251
but super groovy.
597
00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:48,688
Like, I loved those mixtapes.
598
00:23:48,775 --> 00:23:50,951
- DJ Screw's earliest mixtapes
were just like
599
00:23:51,038 --> 00:23:53,040
every other DJ's earliest
mixtapes, you know?
600
00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:54,781
All the new records happening.
601
00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:59,046
And then there's a shift,
right, where Screw,
602
00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,962
for some reason decides to
start pitching down.
603
00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:04,225
[deep reverb]
604
00:24:04,312 --> 00:24:08,838
♪ ♪
605
00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:11,624
- So it gave it a very slow,
laid back kind of feel,
606
00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:13,452
which kind of fit with
the lifestyle of Houston.
607
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:17,891
♪ ♪
608
00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:20,023
- When I was a kid,
I stayed on Candler Road
609
00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:21,024
and I stayed in
these apartments
610
00:24:21,111 --> 00:24:22,243
called Misty Waters.
611
00:24:22,330 --> 00:24:23,766
Up the street there was
a plaza,
612
00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:27,727
and there was a DJ there
named DJ Edward J.
613
00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:30,817
- The Edward J mixtape was
an Atlanta based thing.
614
00:24:30,904 --> 00:24:32,906
So it was more about
the blends and the mixes.
615
00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:35,212
- "King Edward J, I say."
You know what I mean?
616
00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:37,650
Like, you know, that was
his voice, right?
617
00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:41,218
And--so he made a lot of DJs
famous, like, years later.
618
00:24:41,305 --> 00:24:45,875
Like, um--
[singing]
619
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:48,051
- They would just take
a lot of slow songs
620
00:24:48,138 --> 00:24:50,140
and they would add
808 bass on top of 'em
621
00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,446
and just talk over 'em.
622
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:52,839
So it was a plaza I would go to
623
00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:54,667
to just kind of, like,
hear these tunes.
624
00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,016
- And it was called
the Bedroom Boom.
625
00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,453
And those are some of
the most prestigious tapes
626
00:24:58,540 --> 00:24:59,933
that you can ever get.
627
00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:02,065
- Everybody had
their own style,
628
00:25:02,152 --> 00:25:03,240
you know what I'm saying?
629
00:25:03,327 --> 00:25:04,372
Like, Tony, I ain't gon' lie.
630
00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:06,113
Tony Touch used to
come with rings.
631
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,202
And, you know,
the way he would DJ,
632
00:25:08,289 --> 00:25:09,464
it would just be, like, a swag.
633
00:25:09,551 --> 00:25:11,248
Like, he'd be like--
[air whooshing]
634
00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:12,467
I used to watch all that.
635
00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:15,949
We about to intro to the stage,
636
00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:21,432
my nigga, DJ Tony Touch.
637
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,218
- The 50 MCs Collection.
638
00:25:24,305 --> 00:25:27,003
- So this a box set
of all of them.
639
00:25:27,090 --> 00:25:30,311
Features over 150 of
the biggest names in hip-hop,
640
00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:31,921
freestyling, straight spitting.
641
00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:33,575
- He introduced himself as
Tony Touch.
642
00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:35,838
I thought he was
a Black cat, you know?
643
00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:39,363
I had no idea he was
a Puerto Rican guy, you know?
644
00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:42,018
- Basically we working on
tape 50, son.
645
00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:46,327
I had my DJ equipment at home.
I would take my time.
646
00:25:46,414 --> 00:25:48,634
♪ Check, check, check, check ♪
647
00:25:48,721 --> 00:25:50,810
♪ Check, check, check,
check, check ♪
648
00:25:50,897 --> 00:25:52,855
♪ Check it over here,
baby pop ♪
649
00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:54,422
- There was no template
for the process.
650
00:25:54,509 --> 00:25:56,206
So everything that you did,
651
00:25:56,293 --> 00:25:57,643
you was doing it
for the first time.
652
00:25:57,730 --> 00:26:00,036
- ♪ Out to get the bootlegger ♪
653
00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:02,735
- Sometimes you'll be
halfway through a mixtape
654
00:26:02,822 --> 00:26:04,824
and you'll, like,
mess up a scratch.
655
00:26:04,911 --> 00:26:07,478
And I'd watch you.
And you'd be like, "ugh!"
656
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:08,828
- Yeah.
- And I remember, yo,
657
00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:12,179
nobody could talk to
this dude.
658
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:14,398
'Cause I would just sit and
I'd just look at a record.
659
00:26:14,485 --> 00:26:16,139
[laughter]
660
00:26:16,226 --> 00:26:17,445
He'd be like--
[roaring]
661
00:26:17,532 --> 00:26:20,143
- This is tape 46.
662
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:21,362
- ♪ Kick it over here,
baby pop ♪
663
00:26:21,449 --> 00:26:23,233
♪ Out to get the bootlegger ♪
664
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,714
♪ Make mad noise,
it's the new fucking terror ♪
665
00:26:25,801 --> 00:26:28,456
♪ 1994,
flipping off a new era ♪
666
00:26:28,543 --> 00:26:31,154
♪ The mighty D-Stroy with
the Rican Renegade ♪
667
00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:33,330
♪ Bring your brigade
and pack a Medicaid ♪
668
00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:34,810
♪ 'Cause I'm wicked with
the lyrics ♪
669
00:26:34,897 --> 00:26:36,116
♪ And he's nice with
the fader ♪
670
00:26:36,203 --> 00:26:38,945
♪ We get around the world
just like the equator ♪
671
00:26:39,032 --> 00:26:41,643
♪ Serving competition like
a restaurant cater ♪
672
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:44,124
♪ Touch and D-Stroy, kid,
nigga, check your data ♪
673
00:26:44,211 --> 00:26:46,866
♪ 'Cause I kick like soccer,
blast like Binaca ♪
674
00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:49,695
♪ Shine like the sun,
so get your Blue Blocker ♪
675
00:26:49,782 --> 00:26:52,045
- It was that serious to be on
a mixtape
676
00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:55,701
and motherfuckers was just
going to niggas houses to rap.
677
00:26:55,788 --> 00:27:01,054
- All the artists knew
this is what keeps me alive.
678
00:27:01,141 --> 00:27:03,578
This is what keeps
the vibrancy going,
679
00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,841
the cassette in the hood.
680
00:27:05,928 --> 00:27:07,364
- Ones, baby.
- Break it.
681
00:27:07,451 --> 00:27:09,323
- Flip Mode is
the fucking squad.
682
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:10,716
- Ham and eggs.
- Likely not.
683
00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:13,066
- Oh, no ham.
- Breakfast time, dude.
684
00:27:13,153 --> 00:27:16,373
We still breaking
the fucking day with hip-hop
685
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:19,289
banging in your brains, dude.
Don't matter!
686
00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:22,118
We coming,
fucking natural disasters.
687
00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:23,903
Whirlwinds, tornadoes,
688
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:27,080
fucking volcanoes and shit
and earthquakes,
689
00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:29,299
shifting the earth's crust.
690
00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:32,085
Blowing up your mom's with
those stomps in the back.
691
00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:34,217
Family,
your father's asleep too.
692
00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:38,395
Breakfast time, dude.
We still wilding, fuck.
693
00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,876
Tony Touch, what the fuck
is the deal, dude?
694
00:27:40,963 --> 00:27:42,922
- One of the most
amazing things to me about
695
00:27:43,009 --> 00:27:46,142
the mixtapes, in my experience,
is the way they would travel.
696
00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:48,667
- The way it rippled out
through the culture at large,
697
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,712
I think is something that
you really can't even define,
698
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,540
but I think is
pretty significant.
699
00:27:52,627 --> 00:27:54,237
- It hit everywhere.
700
00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:57,153
It's not as if mixtapes were
solely a street thing.
701
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,981
They started out
as a street thing.
702
00:27:59,068 --> 00:28:00,548
But like everything else
with hip-hop,
703
00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:02,332
once the suburb kids
heard about this,
704
00:28:02,419 --> 00:28:03,682
well, we had to have it.
705
00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:04,944
- People would come from
out of town
706
00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,597
to come buy these tapes.
707
00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:08,295
- And these kids used to come
all the way to Bushwick
708
00:28:08,382 --> 00:28:10,166
just to buy their gear,
709
00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:11,864
just to buy their weed,
710
00:28:11,951 --> 00:28:13,692
and to buy that mixtape.
711
00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,998
And then they back on
their way to Long Island.
712
00:28:16,085 --> 00:28:17,478
- Those who knew, knew,
713
00:28:17,565 --> 00:28:20,002
and they were part of
this special network.
714
00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:21,525
- Oh, I know someone.
715
00:28:21,612 --> 00:28:23,049
His friend lives in New York.
716
00:28:23,136 --> 00:28:24,877
He's gonna bring me
the new Ron G tape.
717
00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:25,965
- And it would be like
this fucking thing
718
00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:27,314
you'd pass around.
719
00:28:27,401 --> 00:28:28,881
"Yo, let me dub that.
Let me hold that."
720
00:28:28,968 --> 00:28:30,534
You know, maybe your friend,
yo, he dubs 'em.
721
00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:31,971
Yo, you could dub 'em?
722
00:28:32,058 --> 00:28:33,059
Like, I didn't know
how to fucking dub 'em.
723
00:28:33,146 --> 00:28:35,670
- I had it. You was my man.
Go ahead, dub it.
724
00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,063
- Fuck, yeah, I want that shit.
725
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:38,629
- And cats were trying to
rob me for it.
726
00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,283
Like, they would come up to me
and be like,
727
00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:41,937
"yo, let me hold that."
- Nah, you ain't holding this.
728
00:28:42,024 --> 00:28:44,070
- God forbid you let
someone hold it
729
00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:45,419
and then they broke
your fucking tape.
730
00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:48,161
- There's actually been fights,
shoot-outs, stabbings,
731
00:28:48,248 --> 00:28:49,989
over fucking tapes.
732
00:28:50,076 --> 00:28:54,036
- It made it all the way from
125th Street to the point where
733
00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:55,690
nerdy Jewish kids
who my brother's meeting
734
00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:57,387
at Brandeis University
are bringing
735
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,954
the tapes back from New York.
736
00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:02,044
- So a kid like me, I would
bring my collection down.
737
00:29:02,131 --> 00:29:05,526
And then they would span and
fan out through the college.
738
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:07,093
And that's how they moved.
739
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:08,442
- Those things got in
the hands of
740
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:09,922
people you wouldn't even
expect.
741
00:29:10,009 --> 00:29:11,750
- All my fights,
I listened to mixtapes.
742
00:29:11,837 --> 00:29:13,403
And now I'm training
to the music.
743
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:15,797
- My team got all
the music through me.
744
00:29:15,884 --> 00:29:17,320
- So these are 90-minute tapes.
745
00:29:17,407 --> 00:29:20,149
- I got it from Khalid.
I got it from DJ Tony Touch.
746
00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:21,890
- And then stops.
All right. Take it out.
747
00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,152
Put it back on. Click. Bang.
748
00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:25,720
We got another 90 minutes.
Let's do exercise.
749
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:28,114
- They ship it to me,
I get it out to Orlando.
750
00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:29,855
- We can't stop.
We're invincible.
751
00:29:29,942 --> 00:29:31,117
We're almost like immortal.
752
00:29:31,204 --> 00:29:32,509
It's listening to the music
753
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,598
and that's all
we're talking about. Boom.
754
00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,731
- I didn't know that shit
could go that far.
755
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:39,299
Like, I didn't--I had no idea.
756
00:29:39,386 --> 00:29:42,302
[hip-hop music]
757
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:48,830
♪ ♪
758
00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:50,484
- I remember selling
my mixtapes
759
00:29:50,571 --> 00:29:53,487
at the Carroll City flea market
in Miami.
760
00:29:53,574 --> 00:29:55,619
- Somebody had a cousin
from Brooklyn.
761
00:29:55,706 --> 00:29:58,144
And they would
shoot music down.
762
00:29:58,231 --> 00:29:59,623
All of the people
that you now recognize
763
00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:01,147
as part of the Houston movement
764
00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:03,671
all started from
the mixtape areas.
765
00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:05,673
- We'd get the imports,
'cause, you know,
766
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,241
somebody knew somebody from
out there who brought one back.
767
00:30:08,328 --> 00:30:09,895
And then they would go copy it
768
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:12,071
and make it for their boys
out here.
769
00:30:12,158 --> 00:30:14,203
- There was a time when
I first met AM
770
00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:15,509
and he was playing at, like,
these little clubs
771
00:30:15,596 --> 00:30:18,120
in LA like the Dragonfly.
772
00:30:18,207 --> 00:30:20,209
And he was bored.
He was bored where it was.
773
00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:22,472
He was bored with LA clubs
and this thing.
774
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,300
- You'd hear it maybe once.
And you're like,
775
00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:25,649
"yo, what was that?" and you
would never hear it again.
776
00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:27,782
And then you'd be chasing it,
chasing it, chasing it.
777
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:29,566
- And we get in his car.
778
00:30:29,653 --> 00:30:31,612
He had this Jeep Cherokee with,
like, the CDs in the thing--
779
00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:33,832
in, you know, the overhead.
- And then you're like,
780
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:36,095
Okay, I think I found it
at a flea market.
781
00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:37,748
- It was like having gold.
782
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,663
- Man, I just heard this thing,
783
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:41,274
and it's the best fucking thing
I've ever heard.
784
00:30:41,361 --> 00:30:43,232
It's like, it's this guy
called the Z Trip.
785
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,755
Listen to this.
786
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:46,540
[record scratching]
- ♪ Tall and tan ♪
787
00:30:46,627 --> 00:30:49,543
- And it was "The Girl from
Ipanema" over "Planet Rock."
788
00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:52,459
- ♪ The girl from Ipanema
goes walking ♪
789
00:30:52,546 --> 00:30:54,983
- And they had these records
that was mixed and blended.
790
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,767
But a lot of times
they didn't have
791
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,334
California music on there.
792
00:30:58,421 --> 00:31:00,206
And we figured that's
a good way to make a record.
793
00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:01,381
How do we do this?
794
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:04,384
[hip-hop music]
795
00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:11,304
♪ ♪
796
00:31:17,223 --> 00:31:18,311
- We're here!
797
00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:25,753
- [speaking Spanish]
798
00:31:34,762 --> 00:31:36,851
- The first time that
I listened to rap music,
799
00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:38,592
it was because of a mixtape.
800
00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:41,900
- It was Carolina, Bayamón.
It was all around the island.
801
00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:43,162
- If it wasn't for the mixtape,
802
00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:45,120
a lot of y'all
probably wouldn't know
803
00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:47,209
who a lot of these
reggaetonerosare.
804
00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:48,907
- And everything was
because of mixtapes.
805
00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:55,565
- [speaking Japanese]
806
00:32:01,136 --> 00:32:04,139
- [speaking Japanese]
807
00:32:22,244 --> 00:32:24,203
- Any time I would go to
New York
808
00:32:24,290 --> 00:32:26,422
and come back to Paris,
I'd bring back tapes.
809
00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:27,989
- [speaking French]
810
00:32:29,904 --> 00:32:31,514
- [speaking French]
811
00:32:32,689 --> 00:32:35,127
- If someone had gone across to
the States from England,
812
00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:36,519
you would want their mixtapes.
813
00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:38,260
And as soon as that person
came back,
814
00:32:38,347 --> 00:32:41,437
they would start taping them
and re-recording them,
815
00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:43,178
sending them out
to people here.
816
00:32:43,265 --> 00:32:45,485
- There was some, you know what
I mean, gifting going on
817
00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,400
and lending
and stuff like that.
818
00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:49,750
And a lot of
our cultural influences
819
00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:51,882
came from that music.
820
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,014
- [moans]
821
00:32:54,755 --> 00:32:56,583
♪ ♪
822
00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:58,324
- ♪ I can feel it ♪
823
00:32:58,411 --> 00:33:00,021
♪ ♪
824
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:03,024
- ♪ Yo ♪
825
00:33:03,111 --> 00:33:04,460
♪ I know what the people want ♪
826
00:33:04,547 --> 00:33:05,809
♪ But I'm dealing with
something deep ♪
827
00:33:05,896 --> 00:33:07,420
♪ I respect the mind
of the writer ♪
828
00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:08,682
♪ I respect the mind
of the reader ♪
829
00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:10,162
♪ I respect the mind of
the lover ♪
830
00:33:10,249 --> 00:33:12,077
♪ I respect the mind of
the leader ♪
831
00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:13,817
♪ I only respect the emotions
of bro when he hold the heat ♪
832
00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:16,211
♪ Runners are running around,
doubling up on the pound ♪
833
00:33:16,298 --> 00:33:17,778
♪ Police are
shutting 'em down ♪
834
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:18,866
♪ Now hugging the curb,
they end up in a trial ♪
835
00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:20,215
♪ With debt and
it's bugging me out ♪
836
00:33:20,302 --> 00:33:21,477
♪ Stereotypes
come with the hype ♪
837
00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:23,479
♪ Media pumping the lies,
feeding the flame ♪
838
00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:24,654
♪ That's burning in front of
your eyes ♪
839
00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:25,786
♪ You rub 'em,
covered and blind ♪
840
00:33:25,873 --> 00:33:27,179
♪ How we really meant to talk ♪
841
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:28,484
♪ When they won't let us
have a voice? ♪
842
00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:29,877
♪ But every time
you get defensive ♪
843
00:33:29,964 --> 00:33:31,183
♪ It's seen as aggressive,
never had the choice ♪
844
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:32,532
♪ Dripping
but I'm never moist ♪
845
00:33:32,619 --> 00:33:33,924
♪ Trying to get it
with the boys ♪
846
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:36,318
♪ Mario, I want the coins ♪
[indistinct]
847
00:33:36,405 --> 00:33:38,059
♪ Anyway, rappers are running
with one, I put ten away ♪
848
00:33:38,146 --> 00:33:39,713
♪ Praying and hoping that
I put my pen away ♪
849
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,931
♪ How much you got on your
back? I could never say ♪
850
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,455
♪ Couldn't replicate the vibe
that I generate ♪
851
00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:43,717
♪ Thick energy
when I penetrate ♪
852
00:33:43,804 --> 00:33:45,240
♪ Planning to come out the job
in the get-away ♪
853
00:33:45,327 --> 00:33:46,937
♪ Somewhere closer to the sun
I can medicate ♪
854
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,461
♪ When I come up off the ground
I might levitate ♪
855
00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:50,637
- ♪ Let me show you about
the sound of winning ♪
856
00:33:50,724 --> 00:33:52,465
♪ I was on tour with legends
scopin' lessons ♪
857
00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:54,510
♪ To make pounds and kill it,
found the skillet ♪
858
00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,077
♪ And the barrel's kicking
a thousand in it ♪
859
00:33:56,164 --> 00:33:57,687
♪ No money's 'round
so pull your face back ♪
860
00:33:57,774 --> 00:33:59,298
♪ Like the head of an owl,
let's spin it ♪
861
00:33:59,385 --> 00:34:01,996
- ♪ I'm a family guy,
Peter Griffin ♪
862
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:04,694
♪ And I ain't fucking with
you kids, that's Gary Glitter ♪
863
00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:05,869
♪ They gave me
reasonable doubt ♪
864
00:34:05,956 --> 00:34:07,784
♪ I guess you know the jig up ♪
865
00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:10,222
♪ My team's winning,
Jehovah be the witness ♪
866
00:34:10,309 --> 00:34:12,920
♪ And Usher ain't the only one
with a confession ♪
867
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:15,836
♪ It's hard to be ordinary,
ask John Legend ♪
868
00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:18,143
♪ Car just about fit in
this economy ♪
869
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:20,841
♪ Living by the 48 laws ♪
[indistinct]
870
00:34:22,973 --> 00:34:25,324
- So two British guys
that lived in Brooklyn
871
00:34:25,411 --> 00:34:27,804
that had actually come from
the UK
872
00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:30,459
with the intent to duplicating
mixed tapes.
873
00:34:30,546 --> 00:34:32,722
- The idea of the Tape Kingz
was to take those tapes
874
00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:36,291
out of the neighborhood and get
DJs to put their tapes out
875
00:34:36,378 --> 00:34:38,728
with the Tape Kingz logo.
876
00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:41,644
- Tape Kingz was like a label
that was putting out mixtapes.
877
00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:43,646
- Doo Wop, 95 Live.
878
00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:45,605
Ron G, It's On, Part Two.
879
00:34:45,692 --> 00:34:47,041
Tony Touch, 50 MCs.
880
00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:48,956
The Best of Biggie, Mister Cee.
881
00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,045
- I saw their setup
and I saw hundreds of
882
00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:53,178
master tapes on the corner,
883
00:34:53,265 --> 00:34:55,702
duplicates everywhere,
blank tapes everywhere.
884
00:34:57,138 --> 00:34:59,880
It was like a whole factory.
885
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:01,795
- Them tapes went
all over the world.
886
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,320
- This isn't just
a mom and pop thing.
887
00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:07,844
These guys literally have
their own record label,
888
00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:09,455
which, again, is crazy.
889
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:12,022
These guys are paying
no royalties, right?
890
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,502
No publishing.
891
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:16,462
It's a complete
pirate organization, right?
892
00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:19,073
I mean, you could flip
a mixtape over
893
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,380
and it'd be like, "Tape Kingz."
894
00:35:21,467 --> 00:35:23,904
- Yeah, shady business.
[chuckles]
895
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:27,429
Um, I think, you know,
as far as the economics
896
00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:29,344
of the mixtape game,
897
00:35:29,431 --> 00:35:32,565
you were selling them to the
vendors on Canal Street for 5,
898
00:35:32,652 --> 00:35:34,219
and they were flipping them
and selling them for 10.
899
00:35:34,306 --> 00:35:37,091
In other cases, a distributor
would buy in bulk.
900
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:42,792
If you're moving 50 to
100,000 or more mixtapes
901
00:35:42,879 --> 00:35:46,056
at anywhere between
$2 and, you know, $5 a pop,
902
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:47,928
you can do the math.
903
00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:49,799
If you're moving several
hundred thousand mixtapes
904
00:35:49,886 --> 00:35:51,975
all over the world,
you know, at those margins,
905
00:35:52,062 --> 00:35:53,542
you can do the math.
906
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:56,371
- I used to sell mixtapes
to this guy over here.
907
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,939
I used to drop a box
of 200 off to him.
908
00:35:59,026 --> 00:36:00,897
I used to sell him
a master tape.
909
00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:02,247
- That's what I remember
growing up,
910
00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:03,291
you know, people out of
they trunk.
911
00:36:03,378 --> 00:36:04,858
- 20,000 in one day.
912
00:36:04,945 --> 00:36:06,468
- I'd have, like,
all my mixtapes
913
00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:07,948
in the front of
the fucking Lambo.
914
00:36:08,035 --> 00:36:09,819
Pop it up. Africans come to me
915
00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:11,386
and I distribute
on Canal Street.
916
00:36:11,473 --> 00:36:12,866
I was notorious.
I ain't give a fuck.
917
00:36:12,953 --> 00:36:14,433
- He was the first person
I ever saw with a Lexus
918
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,348
that went from hard top to
drop top in a button.
919
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:18,611
Takes tapes out of the car.
I was like, boom!
920
00:36:18,698 --> 00:36:21,614
I was like, holy shit.
Like, that was crazy.
921
00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:22,876
- The streets helped
the mixtape
922
00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:24,051
and the mixtape helps
the streets.
923
00:36:24,138 --> 00:36:25,270
- [speaking French]
924
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,707
- [speaking French]
925
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:32,364
- When I was out in
the streets,
926
00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:34,844
I sold those mixtapes
like they were dope.
927
00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:36,672
- Swap meets were
the equivalent of
928
00:36:36,759 --> 00:36:38,326
a Delancey Street.
929
00:36:38,413 --> 00:36:39,849
You walked down and
everything's right there.
930
00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:41,155
- If know somebody
in Mississippi,
931
00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:42,983
they know somebody
in Kentucky.
932
00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:44,637
They know somebody in Kentucky,
they know somebody in Alabama.
933
00:36:44,724 --> 00:36:46,856
They know somebody in Alabama,
know somebody in Tennessee.
934
00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:48,641
Whether it's from
the prison system,
935
00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:50,643
you know, local hustlers,
or strippers, or whatever,
936
00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,471
it was all on one accord.
937
00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:54,951
So word of mouth was
better than, you know,
938
00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:56,736
any promotion you could've had.
939
00:36:56,823 --> 00:36:58,303
- This is actually a tape from
when I was locked up.
940
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:59,478
My mom sent me this shit.
941
00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:01,219
Forced MDs tape with
the shrink wrap.
942
00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,221
When I open it, it's a mixtape.
943
00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:06,746
There's my Walkman from jail.
944
00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:07,790
[hip-hop music]
945
00:37:07,877 --> 00:37:09,531
There you go.
946
00:37:09,618 --> 00:37:11,446
I'm selling these
for $40 a pop.
947
00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:12,752
$10 for the weekend.
948
00:37:12,839 --> 00:37:14,580
I was giving mixed tapes
to COs.
949
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:16,190
Had COs bringing me food
on the weekend,
950
00:37:16,277 --> 00:37:18,453
Alizé, all type of shit, son.
951
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:19,846
There was plenty of beats.
952
00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:21,413
Niggas was getting robbed
for mixed tapes in jail.
953
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,284
Yeah, niggas would rather
get their head cracked
954
00:37:23,371 --> 00:37:24,720
for a mixtape.
955
00:37:26,418 --> 00:37:31,640
[sot static crackling]
956
00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:33,033
- ♪ Yeah ♪
957
00:37:34,556 --> 00:37:36,558
♪ Life's crazy ♪
958
00:37:36,645 --> 00:37:38,691
♪ And I always told 'em
life be crazy ♪
959
00:37:38,778 --> 00:37:41,215
♪ ♪
960
00:37:41,302 --> 00:37:42,782
♪ Life's a struggle ♪
961
00:37:42,869 --> 00:37:46,264
♪ Life passion, life pain ♪
962
00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:47,613
♪ It's all one in the same ♪
963
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,223
♪ Make it all make sense ♪
964
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:51,878
♪ They all slip, fall,
they can't get right ♪
965
00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:54,533
♪ They all slip,
fall, can't get right ♪
966
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:57,405
♪ They all slip, fall,
gots to get right ♪
967
00:37:57,492 --> 00:37:59,668
♪ Get me back on my feet,
stop playing with life ♪
968
00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:02,628
♪ They all slip, fall,
can't get right ♪
969
00:38:02,715 --> 00:38:05,326
♪ They all slip,
fall, can't get right ♪
970
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:08,198
♪ They all slip, fall,
gots to get right ♪
971
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,810
♪ Get me back on my feet,
stop playing with life ♪
972
00:38:10,897 --> 00:38:12,725
♪ I been through hella
different phases like mazes ♪
973
00:38:12,812 --> 00:38:15,118
♪ Trying to get on,
brother was never there ♪
974
00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:16,729
♪ I start banging,
the Bloods gave me a home ♪
975
00:38:16,816 --> 00:38:18,731
♪ Wasn't strong enough to face
my problems that I had ♪
976
00:38:18,818 --> 00:38:20,385
♪ A kid with anger issues ♪
977
00:38:20,472 --> 00:38:21,951
♪ From all the shit
I seen my father did ♪
978
00:38:22,038 --> 00:38:24,519
♪ Chain gang, I been there,
I was sitting there ♪
979
00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:26,042
♪ Thinking about if
I let my mama down ♪
980
00:38:26,129 --> 00:38:27,914
[indistinct]
981
00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:29,829
♪ First came the bullshit,
the drama with my pops ♪
982
00:38:29,916 --> 00:38:31,526
♪ I wasn't seeing him
so I jumped into the street ♪
983
00:38:31,613 --> 00:38:33,398
♪ Went got a Glock,
like, this me ♪
984
00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:35,748
♪ And I'ma be the seed
who gon' feed Mama ♪
985
00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:38,141
♪ So my little brother and
sister won't ever need ♪
986
00:38:38,228 --> 00:38:40,796
♪ I'm ready for the world at 16
a robber what I was ♪
987
00:38:40,883 --> 00:38:42,407
♪ I'm doing this shit to
feed myself and fam ♪
988
00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:43,712
♪ Not for a street thug ♪
989
00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:45,192
♪ Going too fast,
I make you crash ♪
990
00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:46,933
♪ But I couldn't see that far ♪
991
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:49,196
♪ Stuck in detention centers,
fighting my evils off ♪
992
00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:51,894
♪ They put me in a situation
as a child to be a man ♪
993
00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:54,462
♪ Ain't had no god, it's all
helping hand, alone I stand ♪
994
00:38:54,549 --> 00:38:55,898
♪ Damn, is it my fault? ♪
995
00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:03,993
- Technology shifts culture.
996
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,562
Going back to the turntable,
that changed everything.
997
00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:09,782
You started recording
live parties.
998
00:39:09,869 --> 00:39:11,436
That was the first mixtape.
999
00:39:11,523 --> 00:39:14,439
The live mix in your crib
that you would do.
1000
00:39:14,526 --> 00:39:16,354
Then that turned into the CD.
1001
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:19,922
♪ ♪
1002
00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:22,055
- Considering its quality and
size,
1003
00:39:22,142 --> 00:39:24,362
the compact disk
most certainly will become
1004
00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:26,973
a part of our everyday lives
in the future.
1005
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:30,629
- Epidemic just hit crazy
when it switched to CDs.
1006
00:39:30,716 --> 00:39:33,022
- And I was like, yo, man,
if I was the first one to put
1007
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:34,850
a mixtape on CD,
it'd be groundbreaking.
1008
00:39:34,937 --> 00:39:38,027
- Oh, man. The hustle came
when you get to burn CDs.
1009
00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:40,682
And, you know, people came in
and fucked that game up.
1010
00:39:40,769 --> 00:39:42,423
- The tapes went away and
the CDs started
1011
00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:44,643
so that I was way ahead
of the game.
1012
00:39:47,297 --> 00:39:49,474
- Now you could
buy the machine.
1013
00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:51,084
Dudes had the machine.
1014
00:39:51,171 --> 00:39:54,043
They had multiple machines
in their studios and shops
1015
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,002
and they doing
their own covers.
1016
00:39:56,089 --> 00:39:59,701
And, you know what I mean,
the turnaround was way quicker.
1017
00:39:59,788 --> 00:40:01,747
- Then the flooding
started to happen.
1018
00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:03,705
Then all the DJs started
to flood the market.
1019
00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:05,359
- When it started getting
flooded
1020
00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:07,666
and everybody and their mother
was doing mixtapes,
1021
00:40:07,753 --> 00:40:10,364
then that immediately
starts to kind of, like,
1022
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:12,758
water down
the specialness of it.
1023
00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:14,977
- The integrity of
the music changed.
1024
00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:17,458
The integrity of
the mixtape changed.
1025
00:40:17,545 --> 00:40:21,419
It became, who could sell more?
How fast? How quick?
1026
00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:22,420
- Blast off.
1027
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,423
[hip-hop music]
1028
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:32,386
♪ ♪
1029
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,782
- [coughing]
1030
00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:39,262
- I heard what DJs played
exclusives on the radio,
1031
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:41,090
but this was different.
1032
00:40:41,177 --> 00:40:42,265
- Radio was aggressive
1033
00:40:42,352 --> 00:40:45,007
but the tapes were
super aggressive.
1034
00:40:45,094 --> 00:40:47,532
- You always wanna put
something on your mix
1035
00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:52,188
that is not supposed to
be there.
1036
00:40:52,275 --> 00:40:54,190
- All of a sudden,
I started hearing
1037
00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:56,541
these records that weren't
out for months.
1038
00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:59,544
- We was playing things
we wasn't supposed to play.
1039
00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:00,762
- Is anyone here from Queens?
1040
00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:02,851
'Cause I don't wanna
offend niggas.
1041
00:41:02,938 --> 00:41:06,681
Queens niggas love to steal,
okay? [chuckles]
1042
00:41:06,768 --> 00:41:08,466
- And then you got Clue
coming in.
1043
00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:10,076
- ♪ Hey, yo, Queens
get the money.
1044
00:41:10,163 --> 00:41:12,165
♪ Long time, no cash ♪
1045
00:41:12,252 --> 00:41:13,732
♪ I'm caught up in the hustle
where the guns go black ♪
1046
00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:15,908
- Clue ushered in exclusives.
1047
00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:19,302
Before that, Braun or Capri,
they'd have one or two.
1048
00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:21,479
Clue ushered in the whole tape
being exclusives.
1049
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,872
Clue had it the hardest.
1050
00:41:23,959 --> 00:41:26,484
Niggas fronted on him
because he was from Queens.
1051
00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:29,095
The Harlem stores
wouldn't carry his stuff.
1052
00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:32,533
It was strictly because
of where he was from.
1053
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:34,927
- You know, Clue's brand
was built off of him
1054
00:41:35,014 --> 00:41:36,537
getting something first.
1055
00:41:36,624 --> 00:41:38,757
- Clue was the person
who brung it to a level
1056
00:41:38,844 --> 00:41:40,889
where radio stations
had to start
1057
00:41:40,976 --> 00:41:42,630
paying attention to it.
1058
00:41:42,717 --> 00:41:44,589
- They used to talk
about Clue like a drug lord.
1059
00:41:44,676 --> 00:41:46,808
You know, the cars he would
have, the money he would make.
1060
00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:49,550
- Clue would put this echo
on his shit.
1061
00:41:49,637 --> 00:41:51,291
- [echoing] ♪ DJ Clue ♪
1062
00:41:51,378 --> 00:41:53,946
♪ Back again ♪
1063
00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:58,777
♪ Represent Queens
to the fullest ♪
1064
00:41:58,864 --> 00:42:01,519
- You listen to a Clue tape,
he puts the echo on the snare.
1065
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:05,044
If the beat's going... [scats]
1066
00:42:05,131 --> 00:42:08,221
Clue, Clue, Clue!
1067
00:42:08,308 --> 00:42:09,744
And the shit echoes
the fuck out
1068
00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:11,311
as the cars are riding away,
1069
00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:13,313
the shit sounds nuts.
1070
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,924
Clue's personality wasn't
as strong
1071
00:42:16,011 --> 00:42:17,752
as a Capri or a Doo Wop.
1072
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:21,887
But his presentation,
and the echo.
1073
00:42:21,974 --> 00:42:25,499
Because for me, being from
the Bronx, the echo was like,
1074
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:27,022
"Fuck what you talking about,
'this Queens nigga.'
1075
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:29,155
This Queens nigga
using the echo."
1076
00:42:29,242 --> 00:42:30,373
And that was tough to me.
1077
00:42:31,984 --> 00:42:34,116
- Everyone else prior to that
was underground.
1078
00:42:34,203 --> 00:42:37,119
And everyone had the mixtapes
on Jamaica Ave.
1079
00:42:37,206 --> 00:42:39,818
Clue was, like, the first
person like, we went uptown.
1080
00:42:39,905 --> 00:42:41,471
We went to Harlem.
Like, it was like going
1081
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,300
to the West Coast
at that time.
1082
00:42:44,387 --> 00:42:47,347
- His mixtapes, you know,
kind of set a bar,
1083
00:42:47,434 --> 00:42:49,741
and showed that if you could be
on this mixtape,
1084
00:42:49,828 --> 00:42:52,134
you one of the elite.
1085
00:42:52,221 --> 00:42:53,527
- To be on a Clue tape--
1086
00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:55,094
that was like winning
a Grammy almost,
1087
00:42:55,181 --> 00:42:58,967
like, especially if you got
that first top ten slots.
1088
00:42:59,054 --> 00:43:00,752
Like, when you listen
to a Clue tape,
1089
00:43:00,839 --> 00:43:02,928
the beginning of the Clue tape
was Nas.
1090
00:43:03,015 --> 00:43:04,016
He was damn near
the biggest artist in America
1091
00:43:04,103 --> 00:43:05,147
at the time.
1092
00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:06,496
So you went to Harlem
1093
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,324
and you see DJ Clue mixtapes
1094
00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:10,326
up there, you like, "Oh!"
1095
00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:11,589
Like, "Whoa!
1096
00:43:11,676 --> 00:43:12,285
Like, y'all know about Queens?"
1097
00:43:12,372 --> 00:43:15,201
- ♪ Yeah ♪
1098
00:43:15,288 --> 00:43:16,985
- People used to always look
for that.
1099
00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:18,596
So I would put a--you know,
a mixture of, like,
1100
00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:19,945
some of the hottest songs
that was out,
1101
00:43:20,032 --> 00:43:21,686
and then put
some exclusives on there,
1102
00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:23,513
as well as some new artists
that had some dope music.
1103
00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:24,819
You know what I mean?
1104
00:43:24,906 --> 00:43:26,125
So back then, there
was no Internet,
1105
00:43:26,212 --> 00:43:28,083
so you had to, you know,
go to the mixtapes
1106
00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:31,739
to find the exclusive songs
and the hot music.
1107
00:43:31,826 --> 00:43:35,656
- That was early Internet,
was that Clue tape.
1108
00:43:35,743 --> 00:43:38,877
- DJ Clue was known
for stealing DATs.
1109
00:43:41,227 --> 00:43:42,750
- The digital audio tape,
or DAT,
1110
00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:44,839
has been called
the wonder tape recorder.
1111
00:43:44,926 --> 00:43:46,058
- That was something
that was different.
1112
00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:47,407
I don't know if you remember.
1113
00:43:47,494 --> 00:43:49,235
- Its ability
to reproduce sound
1114
00:43:49,322 --> 00:43:51,933
is so good, it's got
the music industry worried.
1115
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:54,632
They're afraid it'll lead
to worldwide pirating
1116
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,896
and undermine the increasingly
popular compact disc.
1117
00:43:57,983 --> 00:43:59,985
- As far as, like,
a Queens mixtape DJ,
1118
00:44:00,072 --> 00:44:01,682
all we needed was
one verse and a hook,
1119
00:44:01,769 --> 00:44:03,510
and you might as well say
the song is gone.
1120
00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:05,120
- My introduction
to DJ Clue was,
1121
00:44:05,207 --> 00:44:06,687
he leaked a Grand Puba song.
1122
00:44:06,774 --> 00:44:08,820
And I was pissed, 'cause
my album had just started.
1123
00:44:08,907 --> 00:44:11,561
I was one, two songs in
on a 2000 album.
1124
00:44:11,649 --> 00:44:13,563
And I called him up.
He worked for Steve Style.
1125
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,043
And I was like,
"Yo, the fuck are you doing, G?
1126
00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:17,350
I don't even know how
you fucking got that."
1127
00:44:17,437 --> 00:44:19,352
- Man, I would tell you where
I got the freestyles from,
1128
00:44:19,439 --> 00:44:20,745
but I'd have to kill you, man.
You know what I mean?
1129
00:44:20,832 --> 00:44:22,572
So I'm taking that
to the grave with me.
1130
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,400
- Like, him being
down with Puffy,
1131
00:44:24,487 --> 00:44:26,576
and that's sweet peaches now.
1132
00:44:26,664 --> 00:44:28,274
They wanted to kill him.
1133
00:44:28,361 --> 00:44:31,494
- And Clue hates me to this
day deep down inside me.
1134
00:44:31,581 --> 00:44:33,105
He hates me
'cause I told the story
1135
00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:35,020
about Biggie looking
for the nigga.
1136
00:44:35,107 --> 00:44:36,935
- I had the original
"One More Chance."
1137
00:44:37,022 --> 00:44:42,244
- ♪ Oh, Biggie, give
me one more chance ♪
1138
00:44:42,331 --> 00:44:44,377
- I had, uh--I ain't
gonna say a demo copy,
1139
00:44:44,464 --> 00:44:45,508
but I had, like,
an early copy of it.
1140
00:44:45,595 --> 00:44:47,423
And I put it on a mixtape.
1141
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:48,294
And Biggie got
kind of upset on the radio.
1142
00:44:48,381 --> 00:44:49,774
He was like--
1143
00:44:49,861 --> 00:44:51,079
- Clue, I'm looking for you.
1144
00:44:51,166 --> 00:44:53,125
If you listening,
watch you back.
1145
00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:54,256
It's all good.
1146
00:44:54,343 --> 00:44:56,084
Here we go.
1147
00:44:56,171 --> 00:44:57,695
- It just came to Biggie
like, like...
1148
00:44:57,782 --> 00:44:59,348
- I forgot.
1149
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:01,350
When you said tape recorder,
I thought bootleg,
1150
00:45:01,437 --> 00:45:02,917
and I thought Clue.
It's on.
1151
00:45:03,004 --> 00:45:04,266
- Oh, my God.
1152
00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:05,790
- So Biggie walks up to me
1153
00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,269
with the fucking army
fatigue jacket,
1154
00:45:07,356 --> 00:45:09,010
pulls out, like, a .22.
1155
00:45:09,097 --> 00:45:11,360
He's like, "Yo, you seen
that nigga DJ Clue?
1156
00:45:11,447 --> 00:45:13,449
I'm gonna clap that nigga
when I see him."
1157
00:45:13,536 --> 00:45:16,409
I was like, "Nah.
I ain't seen him."
1158
00:45:16,496 --> 00:45:17,627
You know what I'm saying?
- Who was that?
1159
00:45:17,715 --> 00:45:19,760
- Notorious B.I.G., nigga.
1160
00:45:19,847 --> 00:45:21,283
Biggie.
- Oh, he had a .22.
1161
00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:22,937
- Smalls was looking for Clue
1162
00:45:23,024 --> 00:45:24,373
'cause Clue put out
one of his records
1163
00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:25,940
without permission
1164
00:45:26,027 --> 00:45:27,333
on the mixtape.
1165
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,422
He was looking
for him with a gun,
1166
00:45:29,509 --> 00:45:31,250
talking about he was
gonna give it to him.
1167
00:45:33,121 --> 00:45:35,080
- That's what hip-hop is.
1168
00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,169
Catch me.
1169
00:45:37,256 --> 00:45:38,648
And if you catch me,
you know,
1170
00:45:38,736 --> 00:45:39,998
we'll do it accordingly.
1171
00:45:40,085 --> 00:45:41,521
But until then,
you gotta catch me.
1172
00:45:41,608 --> 00:45:43,392
You know what I'm saying?
So..
1173
00:45:43,479 --> 00:45:48,180
[laughing with echo]
1174
00:45:48,267 --> 00:45:50,312
- That's where
the outlaw shit comes from.
1175
00:45:53,272 --> 00:45:55,535
- That became
a staple brand of not just him,
1176
00:45:55,622 --> 00:45:57,450
but the mixtape culture.
1177
00:45:57,537 --> 00:45:59,713
People were hungry
to hear the next mixtape
1178
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,194
because they never knew
what they were gonna hear.
1179
00:46:02,281 --> 00:46:06,546
- At certain points,
mixtapes became headaches.
1180
00:46:06,633 --> 00:46:08,374
♪ Rappers, I monkey
flip 'em with the funky ♪
1181
00:46:08,461 --> 00:46:10,028
♪ Rhythm I be kicking ♪
1182
00:46:10,115 --> 00:46:11,029
♪ Musician inflicting ♪
1183
00:46:11,116 --> 00:46:12,465
♪ Composition of pain ♪
1184
00:46:12,552 --> 00:46:14,249
♪ I'm like Scarface
sniffing cocaine ♪
1185
00:46:14,336 --> 00:46:15,903
- They're getting
the Nas record
1186
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:18,384
before it even hits the stores
or before the records
1187
00:46:18,471 --> 00:46:21,691
even get on the radio
or anything.
1188
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:23,519
- I got in trouble
for a lot of records.
1189
00:46:23,606 --> 00:46:25,478
Faith Newman,
you know, she really
1190
00:46:25,565 --> 00:46:27,393
wanted to kill me for the Nas.
1191
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,003
- Oh, yeah.
1192
00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:30,657
When I found out
that S&S leaked Illmatic,
1193
00:46:30,744 --> 00:46:32,267
I wanted to kill him.
1194
00:46:32,354 --> 00:46:34,704
- Because I played
seven songs, eight, really,
1195
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,619
including the remix
for "It Ain't Hard to Tell."
1196
00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:38,056
- The whole album
had 10 songs on it.
1197
00:46:38,143 --> 00:46:39,231
- I didn't know
he was gonna put this on.
1198
00:46:39,318 --> 00:46:40,275
- Somebody got their hands
1199
00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,190
on the majority of the album
1200
00:46:42,277 --> 00:46:44,410
and made its way to S&S.
1201
00:46:44,497 --> 00:46:45,846
And he put it out
on the street.
1202
00:46:45,933 --> 00:46:46,934
- I got it.
1203
00:46:47,021 --> 00:46:48,675
I played it.
1204
00:46:48,762 --> 00:46:49,850
- It hurt the album,
1205
00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:52,026
you know,
because he bootlegged it,
1206
00:46:52,113 --> 00:46:53,898
and then
other people bootlegged it,
1207
00:46:53,985 --> 00:46:55,290
and then, all of a sudden,
you could find it in England.
1208
00:46:55,377 --> 00:46:57,336
I mean, it was that bad.
1209
00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,905
- I had 21 records
on my album.
1210
00:47:00,992 --> 00:47:05,126
I remember a DJ put 16 or 17
of them on his mixtape.
1211
00:47:05,213 --> 00:47:08,564
Why would you buy my album
if you get 16 of them for free?
1212
00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:10,175
- Music shouldn't come out
from an artist
1213
00:47:10,262 --> 00:47:11,611
until they're ready
to release it.
1214
00:47:11,698 --> 00:47:13,178
- I would just be clueless.
Like, yo, where are these cats
1215
00:47:13,265 --> 00:47:14,396
getting these records?
1216
00:47:14,483 --> 00:47:16,007
- So everybody
had their methods.
1217
00:47:16,094 --> 00:47:17,051
- It was a hustle.
1218
00:47:17,138 --> 00:47:19,140
- You know a fucked-up word?
1219
00:47:19,227 --> 00:47:20,576
It's called "intern."
1220
00:47:20,663 --> 00:47:22,361
And you know
what interns do, right?
1221
00:47:22,448 --> 00:47:23,536
They work for free.
1222
00:47:25,451 --> 00:47:30,021
What I did was sought out
interns in every major spot.
1223
00:47:30,108 --> 00:47:32,545
And I would give them
$100 or $200
1224
00:47:32,632 --> 00:47:37,071
to, when the CEO or the A&R
or whatever left their office,
1225
00:47:37,158 --> 00:47:39,987
go get whatever they had
laying around,
1226
00:47:40,074 --> 00:47:42,076
record it, put it back.
1227
00:47:42,163 --> 00:47:43,599
That's how I was getting
a lot of my--
1228
00:47:43,686 --> 00:47:45,079
and niggas was confused.
1229
00:47:45,166 --> 00:47:46,951
Like, how the fuck he get--
1230
00:47:47,038 --> 00:47:48,517
I'm getting it from y'all.
1231
00:47:48,604 --> 00:47:50,780
They could never
figure it out.
1232
00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:53,044
I'm going to the person
y'all not paying
1233
00:47:53,131 --> 00:47:55,655
and I'm paying 'em,
you dumbass.
1234
00:47:55,742 --> 00:47:58,876
- It's no secret we really had
some issues with Whoo Kid.
1235
00:47:58,963 --> 00:48:00,660
- It's not like
I wanted trouble.
1236
00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:03,315
It just happened
with the tapes.
1237
00:48:03,402 --> 00:48:04,882
And I never paid attention.
1238
00:48:04,969 --> 00:48:06,492
And then here I am,
getting caught.
1239
00:48:06,579 --> 00:48:08,233
- Any time you're in,
like, an illicit trade
1240
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,235
and there's money involved,
there's gonna be
1241
00:48:10,322 --> 00:48:12,367
some kind of danger.
I mean, like--
1242
00:48:12,454 --> 00:48:13,803
- You hear about
mixtape dealers getting robbed,
1243
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:16,067
kidnapped,
thrown in trunks of cars.
1244
00:48:16,154 --> 00:48:17,503
- The more I was
robbing motherfuckers,
1245
00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:19,592
the more rappers
tried to catch me.
1246
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,463
I got caught by Big Pun.
1247
00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:24,249
- Whoo Kid put out a song
of Pun's without permission.
1248
00:48:24,336 --> 00:48:27,556
So Pun called them and made
it look like, you know,
1249
00:48:27,643 --> 00:48:29,210
he was booking 'em for a show.
1250
00:48:29,297 --> 00:48:31,343
And Whoo Kid came, and...
1251
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:33,475
- All I heard was
Spanish lingo,
1252
00:48:33,562 --> 00:48:35,825
callate la boca,
all this screaming.
1253
00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:37,827
- They kidnapped him.
1254
00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:39,612
They threw him in the van,
pulled out machine guns
1255
00:48:39,699 --> 00:48:42,832
and shit like that,
smacked him around.
1256
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,878
- Yo, every gun
you could think of.
1257
00:48:44,965 --> 00:48:48,926
Like, .38s, Glock 9s.
1258
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:50,884
One had, like, a--
it looked like a Uzi.
1259
00:48:50,971 --> 00:48:52,103
He says, "Yo, I know you're--
1260
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:53,626
"you're just trying
to get put on.
1261
00:48:53,713 --> 00:48:55,236
"You're leaking shit.
1262
00:48:55,323 --> 00:48:57,282
"But I'm gonna explain to you.
This is some street shit.
1263
00:48:57,369 --> 00:49:00,111
"This is Latin Kings, gangs.
There's some shit going on here
1264
00:49:00,198 --> 00:49:01,895
"that you don't know nothing
about.
1265
00:49:01,982 --> 00:49:04,202
"So if you do it again,
then you're actually like--
1266
00:49:04,289 --> 00:49:05,464
you're doing it against me."
1267
00:49:05,551 --> 00:49:07,118
So in the intro
to the next tape
1268
00:49:07,205 --> 00:49:09,033
he wants me to,
like, say, "Fuck Jay-Z,
1269
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,382
Fuck Rockefeller."
1270
00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:11,861
I was like, "I'll say
whatever you want.
1271
00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,863
"Just get me the hell
out of this car, yo!
1272
00:49:13,951 --> 00:49:18,172
I'm not dying
for this shit, yo!"
1273
00:49:18,259 --> 00:49:20,522
- But at the end of the day,
it was part of the game.
1274
00:49:20,609 --> 00:49:21,915
- You see it.
1275
00:49:22,002 --> 00:49:23,699
Mixtapes, motherfuckers.
1276
00:49:23,786 --> 00:49:25,658
- That's it.
1277
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:37,278
[Vivaldi's
"The Four Seasons" playing]
1278
00:49:37,365 --> 00:49:39,411
- I always thought
that if I could connect
1279
00:49:39,498 --> 00:49:42,588
my brand to music
and the music world,
1280
00:49:42,675 --> 00:49:44,416
it would make the brand cool.
1281
00:49:44,503 --> 00:49:46,374
Mixtapes unlocked the door.
1282
00:49:46,461 --> 00:49:49,247
Peter Paul Scott
and Andy Hilfiger
1283
00:49:49,334 --> 00:49:51,901
brought me this idea
to do a mixtape.
1284
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:55,209
And I said, you know,
"What the fuck is a mixtape?"
1285
00:49:55,296 --> 00:49:57,864
I didn't know what
a mixtape was.
1286
00:49:57,951 --> 00:49:59,735
And they said,
"No, you don't understand.
1287
00:49:59,822 --> 00:50:03,043
"We're gonna get all
these musicians to do music,
1288
00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:05,219
"put it on one tape,
and then we're gonna hand
1289
00:50:05,306 --> 00:50:08,222
"the tape out,
let it really permeate
1290
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:10,790
into the culture."
And it worked.
1291
00:50:10,877 --> 00:50:13,227
The hip-hop kids were
connected to my brand,
1292
00:50:13,314 --> 00:50:16,187
and I was connecting
to the culture.
1293
00:50:16,274 --> 00:50:17,971
- The culture wants
to get heard.
1294
00:50:18,058 --> 00:50:19,494
The culture needs money.
1295
00:50:19,581 --> 00:50:21,192
The culture wants to--
1296
00:50:21,279 --> 00:50:22,671
wants to survive.
1297
00:50:22,758 --> 00:50:24,978
So the culture
engages the corporate.
1298
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,980
The corporate has nothing.
1299
00:50:27,067 --> 00:50:29,722
So it engages the culture.
1300
00:50:29,809 --> 00:50:31,463
Here's the marriage.
1301
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:32,812
- You have sponsorships now.
1302
00:50:32,899 --> 00:50:34,727
The mixtapes
were sponsored by Sprite.
1303
00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:36,859
- And then, of course,
it turned into,
1304
00:50:36,946 --> 00:50:38,905
"Who's gonna get
that corporate money?"
1305
00:50:38,992 --> 00:50:40,863
- The platforms were
getting larger and bigger.
1306
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:43,170
- That's how big
this mixtape movement was.
1307
00:50:43,257 --> 00:50:45,433
We even took that whole vibe
and kept it relevant
1308
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,435
with the launch
of 50 Cent's first album.
1309
00:50:47,522 --> 00:50:50,351
We had a man standing with
a 9-millimeter pistol,
1310
00:50:50,438 --> 00:50:53,876
a do-rag, and a Gucci gun belt
around his chest,
1311
00:50:53,963 --> 00:50:58,229
pointed at you, with all of his
songs from all of his mixtapes
1312
00:50:58,316 --> 00:51:01,406
as a promotional tool
for a company called RBK.
1313
00:51:02,537 --> 00:51:03,625
Reebok.
1314
00:51:03,712 --> 00:51:05,149
[hip-hop music]
1315
00:51:05,236 --> 00:51:06,280
- ♪ Yeah ♪
1316
00:51:08,369 --> 00:51:11,459
- 50 was basically born
out of the mixtape.
1317
00:51:11,546 --> 00:51:14,462
- He did an idea that
no one else had been doing.
1318
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:16,073
- He made it sound
like an album.
1319
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,379
- The buzz, what the fuck
he was saying,
1320
00:51:18,466 --> 00:51:20,207
rhyming over other beats.
1321
00:51:20,294 --> 00:51:23,515
- Because prior to that, DJs
were making compilations.
1322
00:51:23,602 --> 00:51:25,560
And 50 was saying,
"Yeah, cool.
1323
00:51:25,647 --> 00:51:27,084
"I'm gonna give you
a mixtape,
1324
00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:28,868
but it's gonna be
all my music."
1325
00:51:28,955 --> 00:51:31,262
- And he had to do it,
because nobody was really
1326
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:32,524
rocking with him at the time.
1327
00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:36,702
He was on Columbia.
1328
00:51:36,789 --> 00:51:38,660
Then he got shot.
[gunshot, sirens wailing]
1329
00:51:38,747 --> 00:51:39,922
And they dropped him
because they didn't want
1330
00:51:40,009 --> 00:51:41,098
no problems with it.
1331
00:51:43,578 --> 00:51:46,538
- Look, after I got hit,
I went through this thing
1332
00:51:46,625 --> 00:51:51,108
where there's a fear
1333
00:51:51,195 --> 00:51:54,981
that you have
because it hurts so bad.
1334
00:51:55,068 --> 00:51:56,983
And it's a different thing
when you hit to the point
1335
00:51:57,070 --> 00:52:01,857
you can't walk, hand shot,
your face is shot.
1336
00:52:01,944 --> 00:52:03,946
You banged up so bad
you don't--
1337
00:52:04,033 --> 00:52:05,818
I wouldn't let Yayo
and them see me.
1338
00:52:05,905 --> 00:52:07,385
I wouldn't let them come in
the hospital when I was there.
1339
00:52:07,472 --> 00:52:10,475
'cause it would have
changed their heart.
1340
00:52:10,562 --> 00:52:13,565
That was so uncomfortable,
the fear,
1341
00:52:13,652 --> 00:52:18,091
that the only way I was
able to make it go away
1342
00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:19,571
was to go towards the problem.
1343
00:52:19,658 --> 00:52:23,270
[hip-hop music]
1344
00:52:23,357 --> 00:52:26,839
♪ Many men
wish death upon me ♪
1345
00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:28,971
I was like, "I'ma just make
albums now."
1346
00:52:29,058 --> 00:52:31,844
- And he put out this mixtape
called "50 Cent is the Future."
1347
00:52:31,931 --> 00:52:33,672
Game-changer.
1348
00:52:33,759 --> 00:52:35,717
- 50 was stealing
the instrumentals
1349
00:52:35,804 --> 00:52:37,458
and redoing them.
1350
00:52:37,545 --> 00:52:40,635
- I'll take the records that
I felt like were really good,
1351
00:52:40,722 --> 00:52:43,943
and then write my version
off of a different spin
1352
00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:46,598
that I thought would have been
cool if you did it like this.
1353
00:52:46,685 --> 00:52:48,165
When I got
to "50 Cent is the Future,"
1354
00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:49,427
it was one photo shoot.
1355
00:52:49,514 --> 00:52:52,212
We did one photo shoot
in the garage.
1356
00:52:52,299 --> 00:52:54,519
When it was done, we put,
like, the fake barcode,
1357
00:52:54,606 --> 00:52:56,869
the--like, the track list.
1358
00:52:56,956 --> 00:52:58,436
We had to make it cool
enough for the bootleggers
1359
00:52:58,523 --> 00:53:00,568
to feel like they
just stole something.
1360
00:53:00,655 --> 00:53:02,527
- I think there's
a lot of people on Canal Street
1361
00:53:02,614 --> 00:53:05,094
that got really rich
off of 50 Cent mixtapes.
1362
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:07,184
- I had turned the bootleggers
1363
00:53:07,271 --> 00:53:09,447
into my personal
marketing team.
1364
00:53:09,534 --> 00:53:11,536
- They were so hot
with mixtapes
1365
00:53:11,623 --> 00:53:13,755
that when Whoo Kid would walk
into the office,
1366
00:53:13,842 --> 00:53:16,193
50 would literally pick him up
upside down, shake him,
1367
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,585
and whatever money
fell out of his pocket,
1368
00:53:17,672 --> 00:53:19,326
50 would just pick
it up and walk.
1369
00:53:19,413 --> 00:53:21,198
- Stealing music also put
us ahead of the game
1370
00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:22,764
to see what would be
the next single.
1371
00:53:22,851 --> 00:53:25,202
So if I'm constantly
at the labels, lurking,
1372
00:53:25,289 --> 00:53:26,638
trying to figure
out what's next,
1373
00:53:26,725 --> 00:53:27,943
I also get, like,
the schedules.
1374
00:53:28,030 --> 00:53:29,467
- Go get me the tape.
It don't matter.
1375
00:53:29,554 --> 00:53:31,033
Just--I need that first.
1376
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,731
Whatever it is you can get
your hands on.
1377
00:53:32,818 --> 00:53:36,604
- If Dr. Dre's gonna drop
a single October 21st,
1378
00:53:36,691 --> 00:53:38,824
I would tell the A&R,
"Yo, give me the DAT,
1379
00:53:38,911 --> 00:53:40,260
give me the instrumental."
1380
00:53:40,347 --> 00:53:41,914
So then I would be
ahead of the game
1381
00:53:42,001 --> 00:53:44,177
and tell 50, "Yo, I think this
is gonna be the next hit."
1382
00:53:44,264 --> 00:53:49,095
- Whoo Kid was instrumental
with those 50 Cent tapes.
1383
00:53:49,182 --> 00:53:51,837
[banging noise]
- Whoo Kid.
1384
00:53:51,924 --> 00:53:53,404
That was hard!
1385
00:53:53,491 --> 00:53:56,407
Boy, I cannot forget
DJ Whoo Kid.
1386
00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:57,973
Man, he fucked them folks up.
1387
00:53:58,060 --> 00:53:59,714
Man, I loved how they
had their own thing.
1388
00:53:59,801 --> 00:54:01,890
50 have some real shit
going on.
1389
00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:03,196
Them mixtapes,
they really showed people
1390
00:54:03,283 --> 00:54:04,980
how to do business.
1391
00:54:05,067 --> 00:54:07,069
- It was to the point where,
like, a new song would come out
1392
00:54:07,156 --> 00:54:09,202
and if 50 did it,
the DJs wouldn't even
1393
00:54:09,289 --> 00:54:10,638
play the original no more.
1394
00:54:10,725 --> 00:54:11,813
- People were playing
their versions
1395
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,728
more than their single.
1396
00:54:13,815 --> 00:54:16,165
- Every car driving down
the street was 50 Cent music.
1397
00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:16,905
It was everywhere.
1398
00:54:16,992 --> 00:54:19,604
- G-G-G-G Unit.
1399
00:54:19,691 --> 00:54:22,737
It was the hardest shit
I ever heard in my life.
1400
00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:24,217
- The established artists--
1401
00:54:24,304 --> 00:54:26,001
they would be pissed
when they see the Africans
1402
00:54:26,088 --> 00:54:27,699
with the CD on the shit.
1403
00:54:27,786 --> 00:54:30,658
And I'm the happiest person
to be there.
1404
00:54:30,745 --> 00:54:32,138
- At the same time,
we kind of, like, switched
1405
00:54:32,225 --> 00:54:33,226
the way they thought.
1406
00:54:33,313 --> 00:54:34,662
I had to teach Snoop Dogg.
1407
00:54:34,749 --> 00:54:36,098
He was like, "What the
fuck is a freestyle, cuz?
1408
00:54:36,185 --> 00:54:37,970
"What the fuck?
I'm freestyling for free.
1409
00:54:38,057 --> 00:54:40,364
"I just sold 30 million albums.
1410
00:54:40,451 --> 00:54:42,017
Like, fuck is this, cuz?"
1411
00:54:42,104 --> 00:54:45,369
I had him do "P-I-M-P"
and I let 50 hear it.
1412
00:54:45,456 --> 00:54:46,587
And 50 was like, "Fuck that.
1413
00:54:46,674 --> 00:54:47,893
"I'm not even changing this.
1414
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:49,198
"This is a freestyle?
1415
00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:50,678
This sound like a record."
1416
00:54:50,765 --> 00:54:53,333
So then 50 just kept
the original verse
1417
00:54:53,420 --> 00:54:55,335
and made it the remixes.
1418
00:54:55,422 --> 00:54:57,816
And then that woke up
Snoop Dogg to understand,
1419
00:54:57,903 --> 00:54:59,339
you got to hurry up
and put your album out
1420
00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:01,167
or you're just gonna be,
like, old.
1421
00:55:01,254 --> 00:55:02,864
You don't wanna be
that late nigga.
1422
00:55:02,951 --> 00:55:04,997
Like, you think
you have a classic,
1423
00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:06,651
and then Soldier Boy comes out.
1424
00:55:06,738 --> 00:55:09,828
You!
Now you're like, yo.
1425
00:55:09,915 --> 00:55:11,786
That's why 50
always had tapes out
1426
00:55:11,873 --> 00:55:15,181
because it helped him be
connected with the streets
1427
00:55:15,268 --> 00:55:17,314
and understand the art
of being current.
1428
00:55:18,793 --> 00:55:23,145
- Before I released my record,
Master P came.
1429
00:55:23,232 --> 00:55:27,454
And he was like, "I wanna go
on tour with this new album."
1430
00:55:27,541 --> 00:55:29,238
You know what I'm saying?
And he was like, "Nah.
1431
00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:31,502
"They ready now.
They better give $8,000 a show.
1432
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:32,720
You can run around."
1433
00:55:32,807 --> 00:55:34,113
I'm like, "$8,000?
Hold up.
1434
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,244
This could get good."
1435
00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:37,116
The first show, Club Speed.
1436
00:55:37,203 --> 00:55:40,337
- You went to Speed, it was,
razors came out the mouth.
1437
00:55:40,424 --> 00:55:41,512
Speed was serious.
1438
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,688
- Like, back then,
it was a little--
1439
00:55:43,775 --> 00:55:44,863
it was a little wild.
1440
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:46,081
- I go first.
1441
00:55:46,168 --> 00:55:47,126
There goes the lamb
to the slaughter.
1442
00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:48,867
I walk down the stairs.
1443
00:55:48,954 --> 00:55:50,608
I make the left
to where the stage is at,
1444
00:55:50,695 --> 00:55:52,523
and all of a sudden,
I see Red Cafe
1445
00:55:52,610 --> 00:55:54,960
wearing a do rag
and a bulletproof vest.
1446
00:55:55,047 --> 00:55:56,875
I said, "Are you
fucking kidding me?
1447
00:55:56,962 --> 00:55:58,180
50's gonna flip."
1448
00:55:58,267 --> 00:55:59,443
Then there's a fight.
1449
00:55:59,530 --> 00:56:01,183
All of a sudden,
I see a Bic pen.
1450
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:02,707
He start stabbing this dude
in the neck
1451
00:56:02,794 --> 00:56:04,143
with a Bic pen
right on the dance floor.
1452
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:06,232
- Somebody got
poked in the neck.
1453
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:07,929
James Cruz come
running upstairs.
1454
00:56:08,016 --> 00:56:10,323
He scared to death.
He's like, "Yo, yo."
1455
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:12,325
- We're not doing the show!
We're not doing the show!
1456
00:56:12,412 --> 00:56:13,805
And 50 was like, "What
the fuck you talking about,
1457
00:56:13,892 --> 00:56:15,023
we ain't doing the show?"
1458
00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:15,981
- He got stabbed
because we standing here
1459
00:56:16,068 --> 00:56:17,809
instead of on the stage.
1460
00:56:17,896 --> 00:56:19,114
- He pushed me out of the way,
goes down to the stage,
1461
00:56:19,201 --> 00:56:22,161
and rocks it.
1462
00:56:22,248 --> 00:56:23,684
- I never forget that.
1463
00:56:23,771 --> 00:56:25,860
♪ I get money, I get money ♪
1464
00:56:25,947 --> 00:56:30,604
- But for whatever reason,
at that moment, 50's story,
1465
00:56:30,691 --> 00:56:37,045
his style, his aura, his voice,
his cadence, whatever it was,
1466
00:56:37,132 --> 00:56:39,483
he could do no wrong.
It was everywhere.
1467
00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:42,137
- Everyone wanted to make
their own mixtape like 50.
1468
00:56:42,224 --> 00:56:44,444
They didn't even care
about original beats no more.
1469
00:56:44,531 --> 00:56:46,620
They gonna make whole songs
over other people's beats.
1470
00:56:46,707 --> 00:56:48,883
- That's when it became
artist-driven.
1471
00:56:48,970 --> 00:56:50,929
Other artists
started looking like, "Hey,
1472
00:56:51,016 --> 00:56:53,235
"I don't even need
a mixtape DJ anymore.
1473
00:56:53,322 --> 00:56:55,368
I can just do this shit
on my own."
1474
00:57:00,068 --> 00:57:01,853
- Wayne was called
Mixtape Weezy.
1475
00:57:01,940 --> 00:57:03,681
He had his own alter ego.
1476
00:57:03,768 --> 00:57:05,465
And they'd just get on mixtapes
and body that shit.
1477
00:57:07,206 --> 00:57:09,991
- What was fun for me was
rapping on songs
1478
00:57:10,078 --> 00:57:12,472
that I'm not on,
that I wasn't a part of.
1479
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,256
He would cut on a bunch
of instrumentals.
1480
00:57:14,343 --> 00:57:15,910
I would rap over
those instrumentals.
1481
00:57:15,997 --> 00:57:17,216
You gotta remember,
you're taking a song
1482
00:57:17,303 --> 00:57:18,478
that's a hit.
1483
00:57:18,565 --> 00:57:20,262
We have already learned
this song,
1484
00:57:20,349 --> 00:57:22,221
and we learned to love it
the way it is.
1485
00:57:22,308 --> 00:57:23,875
So you about to come touch it,
1486
00:57:23,962 --> 00:57:25,267
you better be about to do
something
1487
00:57:25,354 --> 00:57:26,486
that's gonna make us
really fuck with you.
1488
00:57:29,184 --> 00:57:31,186
At that time,
there was no Internet.
1489
00:57:31,273 --> 00:57:32,666
There was none of that.
1490
00:57:32,753 --> 00:57:35,713
So what we actually did
was burn a bunch of CDs,
1491
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,716
go to a bunch of events,
and pass 'em out.
1492
00:57:38,803 --> 00:57:40,761
- Lil Wayne was the one
who really got us
1493
00:57:40,848 --> 00:57:42,371
into that free mixtape era.
1494
00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,287
- I never had no idea
of having success.
1495
00:57:45,374 --> 00:57:47,028
This is just me having fun.
1496
00:57:47,115 --> 00:57:48,465
- He's like, "I didn't get
that shit cleared.
1497
00:57:48,552 --> 00:57:50,423
But I'm not making
money off of it."
1498
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:51,859
- I actually don't even expect
that somebody else
1499
00:57:51,946 --> 00:57:52,947
to even hear it.
1500
00:57:53,034 --> 00:57:54,296
We in New Orleans with this.
1501
00:57:54,383 --> 00:57:56,037
Just that I was killing it
so much
1502
00:57:56,124 --> 00:57:58,431
that it got straight
to your damn front door.
1503
00:57:58,518 --> 00:57:59,954
[doorbell rings]
[laughing]
1504
00:58:00,041 --> 00:58:01,695
Other than that, nope.
1505
00:58:01,782 --> 00:58:04,872
My thought process
behind my mixtapes were,
1506
00:58:04,959 --> 00:58:07,527
go crazy on all
these people's songs.
1507
00:58:07,614 --> 00:58:09,660
I didn't have no structures
as in, you know,
1508
00:58:09,747 --> 00:58:11,357
this one should be first.
This one should be--
1509
00:58:11,444 --> 00:58:14,186
DJs got on top of that
and said,
1510
00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:16,536
"Oh, okay. That's popping?
The next time you do that,
1511
00:58:16,623 --> 00:58:17,929
"why don't you give me
all those songs
1512
00:58:18,016 --> 00:58:19,452
"before you just start putting
'em out?
1513
00:58:19,539 --> 00:58:21,585
"And instead of you just
putting 'em 1 through 12,
1514
00:58:21,672 --> 00:58:24,413
let me make 'em
a good 1 through 12.
1515
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,025
- So putting these mixtapes out
like albums,
1516
00:58:27,112 --> 00:58:30,463
people were literally waiting
for mixtapes to drop.
1517
00:58:30,550 --> 00:58:32,117
Right?
1518
00:58:32,204 --> 00:58:34,554
- ♪ G5 sitting on the runway ♪
1519
00:58:34,641 --> 00:58:36,469
- A mixtape is when you get
that DJ,
1520
00:58:36,556 --> 00:58:39,385
he jacked 12 beats, you know.
1521
00:58:39,472 --> 00:58:41,953
He give you a Beyoncé beat
1522
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,869
where the song is about love
and hula hoops,
1523
00:58:44,956 --> 00:58:46,914
and you turn that bitch
into a fucking song
1524
00:58:47,001 --> 00:58:49,177
about dragons and Draculas.
1525
00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,092
And the world remember
that song
1526
00:58:51,179 --> 00:58:52,920
as dragons and Draculas.
1527
00:58:54,052 --> 00:58:55,401
That's--that's a mixtape.
1528
00:58:55,488 --> 00:58:58,186
That's what I do.
Call me.
1529
00:58:58,273 --> 00:59:01,929
- Live shows in hip-hop were
subsidized by free mixtapes.
1530
00:59:03,191 --> 00:59:05,977
That's exactly--what we
just figured out right now.
1531
00:59:06,064 --> 00:59:07,456
What was happening was,
the mixtapes
1532
00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:08,762
were getting them so popular
1533
00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:10,547
that they could actually sell
shows.
1534
00:59:10,634 --> 00:59:11,939
And there was a time
in hip-hop
1535
00:59:12,026 --> 00:59:14,072
people weren't doing
live shows like that.
1536
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,161
Lil Wayne was
the master of that.
1537
00:59:16,248 --> 00:59:17,858
- I remember going on tour.
1538
00:59:17,945 --> 00:59:20,208
It was the name of one
of my mixtapes or something.
1539
00:59:20,295 --> 00:59:21,906
Are we doing that?
That's the name of this tour.
1540
00:59:21,993 --> 00:59:23,211
It came that far.
1541
00:59:23,298 --> 00:59:24,212
And, I mean, so that's--
1542
00:59:24,299 --> 00:59:25,431
I remember that feeling.
1543
00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:26,737
Like, "Damn, this shit worked."
1544
00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:28,260
So...
- Yeah.
1545
00:59:28,347 --> 00:59:29,696
[speaking Spanish]
1546
00:59:29,783 --> 00:59:30,871
You know what I'm saying?
1547
00:59:30,958 --> 00:59:32,830
With Tony Touch up in here.
1548
00:59:32,917 --> 00:59:35,136
♪ Because I'm public enemy
number one ♪
1549
00:59:38,313 --> 00:59:39,880
- Hell.
- Tone.
1550
00:59:39,967 --> 00:59:40,925
[greeting indistinctly]
1551
00:59:41,012 --> 00:59:42,143
- What's up?
- You good?
1552
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:43,710
- We the house, dude.
What's going on?
1553
00:59:43,797 --> 00:59:45,277
- Mixtape time?
Mixtape time?
1554
00:59:45,364 --> 00:59:46,931
- Mixtape time, man.
- Let's do it.
1555
00:59:47,018 --> 00:59:48,585
- Let's do this shit.
1556
00:59:48,672 --> 00:59:50,369
- ♪ You got no rap,
but you want to rap ♪
1557
00:59:50,456 --> 00:59:51,936
♪ It's like a having a boat
but you got no-- ♪
1558
00:59:52,023 --> 00:59:53,764
- ♪ Ha ♪
1559
00:59:53,851 --> 00:59:55,592
- [laughs]
Spin that shit back.
1560
00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:57,506
- ♪ It's like a having a boat
but you got no-- ♪
1561
00:59:57,594 --> 01:00:02,599
[record scratching
over interrupted lyrics]
1562
01:00:02,686 --> 01:00:04,688
- ♪ You got no rap,
but you want to rap ♪
1563
01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:06,864
♪ It's like a having a boat
but you got no-- ♪
1564
01:00:06,951 --> 01:00:11,477
- [rapping indistinctly]
1565
01:00:11,564 --> 01:00:14,393
[record scratching]
1566
01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:24,882
- People used
to sweat Kid Capri.
1567
01:00:24,969 --> 01:00:27,928
People used to sweat DJ Clue.
1568
01:00:28,015 --> 01:00:29,060
You know.
1569
01:00:29,147 --> 01:00:31,279
People use to sweat Kay Slay.
1570
01:00:31,366 --> 01:00:35,414
Like, it was a big deal
for artists to get their song
1571
01:00:35,501 --> 01:00:36,415
on one of their cassettes.
1572
01:00:36,502 --> 01:00:39,723
Because they knew, A,
1573
01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:41,899
they might sell records
off of that.
1574
01:00:41,986 --> 01:00:45,554
But B, street credibility.
1575
01:00:45,642 --> 01:00:48,862
- The mixtape DJ rises
to a level of prominence,
1576
01:00:48,949 --> 01:00:51,256
and rightfully so.
1577
01:00:51,343 --> 01:00:53,345
Because the work
was put in, really.
1578
01:00:54,302 --> 01:00:57,175
[hip-hop music]
1579
01:00:57,262 --> 01:01:01,919
♪ ♪
1580
01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:05,444
Just to let you know that
the white man makes the rules,
1581
01:01:05,531 --> 01:01:07,359
whenever it's to his benefit,
1582
01:01:07,446 --> 01:01:11,450
them rules could change,
like that.
1583
01:01:11,537 --> 01:01:16,324
Suddenly the FBI
federal copyright law
1584
01:01:16,411 --> 01:01:18,718
gets pushed to the side.
1585
01:01:18,805 --> 01:01:22,635
Because in order for your label
to sell a record,
1586
01:01:22,722 --> 01:01:27,988
it has to now be on a mixtape.
1587
01:01:28,075 --> 01:01:34,125
For your artists to now appear
believable to its community,
1588
01:01:34,212 --> 01:01:37,215
you must appear on the mixtape.
1589
01:01:37,302 --> 01:01:42,220
- That's marketing that you
can never, ever have the budget
1590
01:01:42,307 --> 01:01:45,658
to meet the power of
what a mixtape DJ could provide
1591
01:01:45,745 --> 01:01:47,965
by putting your song on a tape.
1592
01:01:48,052 --> 01:01:50,010
- The labels got them vibes
because they was getting
1593
01:01:50,097 --> 01:01:51,577
some of the music to me.
You know what I'm saying?
1594
01:01:51,664 --> 01:01:53,144
So they knew what was up.
1595
01:01:53,231 --> 01:01:54,319
- I'm thinking the higher-ups,
the labels,
1596
01:01:54,406 --> 01:01:56,016
got a little irritated.
1597
01:01:56,103 --> 01:01:58,236
But one hand washed the other.
1598
01:01:58,323 --> 01:02:00,064
- We wanna get this
to the hottest DJ.
1599
01:02:00,151 --> 01:02:01,935
But, here.
1600
01:02:02,022 --> 01:02:03,850
- And the mixtape DJs--
really, ultimately,
1601
01:02:03,937 --> 01:02:06,374
at the end of the day,
they demonstrated to the labels
1602
01:02:06,461 --> 01:02:09,116
how the label should be moving.
1603
01:02:09,203 --> 01:02:12,032
- I think labels
and their legal teams
1604
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:13,860
were always thinking
1605
01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:16,254
the mixtapes could be
a problem,
1606
01:02:16,341 --> 01:02:17,646
for the obvious reasons,
because they
1607
01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:19,387
were not properly licensed.
1608
01:02:19,474 --> 01:02:21,302
- Before I put out
my first album, like, Dr. Dre,
1609
01:02:21,389 --> 01:02:23,130
Jimmy Iovine, they were, like,
totally against,
1610
01:02:23,217 --> 01:02:24,566
like, mixtapes.
1611
01:02:24,653 --> 01:02:26,090
They did not want you
to put out mixtapes.
1612
01:02:26,177 --> 01:02:27,526
They felt like it
was free music,
1613
01:02:27,613 --> 01:02:29,136
you were giving stuff away.
1614
01:02:29,223 --> 01:02:31,225
Me and 50, we did it
anyway with Whoo Kid
1615
01:02:31,312 --> 01:02:32,749
and all those G-Unit mixtapes.
1616
01:02:32,836 --> 01:02:34,968
And that's really what--
that was like promotion.
1617
01:02:35,055 --> 01:02:38,406
- Here you have
a vibrant music scene
1618
01:02:38,493 --> 01:02:41,670
that's not based on music.
1619
01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:45,022
It's based on reputation,
who you know,
1620
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:50,505
gang affiliation,
what you did, didn't do.
1621
01:02:50,592 --> 01:02:51,898
You're dealing with a culture.
1622
01:02:51,985 --> 01:02:53,944
And out of this comes music.
1623
01:02:54,031 --> 01:02:55,554
Now you just wanna sell
the music.
1624
01:02:55,641 --> 01:02:57,208
Uh-uh.
1625
01:02:57,295 --> 01:02:59,123
Where did that music come from?
Whose--what?
1626
01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:00,820
How?
Okay.
1627
01:03:00,907 --> 01:03:03,475
- When it came to labels
like Def Jam,
1628
01:03:03,562 --> 01:03:05,390
who had a full marketing team
around them
1629
01:03:05,477 --> 01:03:08,001
and understood what a useful
marketing tool this could be,
1630
01:03:08,088 --> 01:03:10,134
then it kind of tempered
a little bit.
1631
01:03:10,221 --> 01:03:11,222
And then--
1632
01:03:11,309 --> 01:03:13,485
[modem sound]
1633
01:03:14,747 --> 01:03:17,706
- At the time, record companies
were getting destroyed
1634
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:21,536
by file sharing,
and from people downloading
1635
01:03:21,623 --> 01:03:22,494
music and burning CDs.
1636
01:03:22,581 --> 01:03:23,974
- It's stolen music.
1637
01:03:24,061 --> 01:03:25,497
You know?
1638
01:03:25,584 --> 01:03:27,107
And that's what it is.
1639
01:03:27,194 --> 01:03:28,979
- This is what they
now got to deal with.
1640
01:03:40,077 --> 01:03:42,862
[hip-hop music]
1641
01:03:42,949 --> 01:03:44,777
- Yo, they used to say
the Paul Revere beat was,
1642
01:03:44,864 --> 01:03:45,778
it's yours.
- For real?
1643
01:03:45,865 --> 01:03:47,432
Backwards?
- Backwards.
1644
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,087
♪ ♪
1645
01:03:50,174 --> 01:03:52,045
- It could be.
Maybe they found it--
1646
01:03:52,132 --> 01:03:53,264
- Maybe they chopped it up.
1647
01:03:53,351 --> 01:03:54,918
- It's Def Jam alumni, nigga.
1648
01:03:55,005 --> 01:03:56,615
Whoo.
1649
01:03:56,702 --> 01:03:57,790
I've been on this business
like I'm Kobe, nigga.
1650
01:03:57,877 --> 01:03:59,400
10 years straight, nigga, 15.
1651
01:03:59,487 --> 01:04:00,967
You know what it is.
1652
01:04:01,054 --> 01:04:01,576
I came in this bitch
with a rope chain
1653
01:04:01,663 --> 01:04:04,928
and a pot, nigga.
1654
01:04:05,015 --> 01:04:07,365
♪ Yeah, I came in the game,
hardest motherfucker lit ♪
1655
01:04:07,452 --> 01:04:09,933
♪ Before the Mad Libs, yeah,
your boys balling chits ♪
1656
01:04:10,020 --> 01:04:11,282
♪ I'm obsessed with
cutting records ♪
1657
01:04:11,369 --> 01:04:12,587
♪ I was cutting bigger stuff ♪
1658
01:04:12,674 --> 01:04:14,241
♪ Quarter ounce
for the buck-25 ♪
1659
01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:15,721
♪ Taking those ♪
1660
01:04:15,808 --> 01:04:16,896
♪ Wasn't all that
they was dripping ♪
1661
01:04:16,983 --> 01:04:18,202
♪ Was the water in the pot ♪
1662
01:04:18,289 --> 01:04:19,029
♪ Bought a quarter
million dollar ♪
1663
01:04:19,116 --> 01:04:20,552
♪ Then I drove it off the lot ♪
1664
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:21,858
♪ First I made a
million dollars ♪
1665
01:04:21,945 --> 01:04:23,685
♪ Then I sold
a million records ♪
1666
01:04:23,772 --> 01:04:25,600
♪ Then I find the IT and got
them bitches out of Texas ♪
1667
01:04:25,687 --> 01:04:27,080
♪ Boy, you trying
to make it stretch ♪
1668
01:04:27,167 --> 01:04:28,908
♪ Hit it with some warm water ♪
1669
01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:31,128
♪ You hit it with that cold,
make that hard get harder ♪
1670
01:04:31,215 --> 01:04:33,957
♪ Hop up out that phantom
with a cannon, make a move ♪
1671
01:04:34,044 --> 01:04:35,132
♪ Pull up on your front
in broad day ♪
1672
01:04:35,219 --> 01:04:36,960
♪ And make a smoothie ♪
1673
01:04:37,047 --> 01:04:39,092
♪ Who's that looking in
my window like I'm CeeLo ♪
1674
01:04:39,179 --> 01:04:41,355
♪ Nas need one mic,
I only need a kilo ♪
1675
01:04:41,442 --> 01:04:43,575
[echoing] ♪ Snuff ♪
1676
01:04:43,662 --> 01:04:49,450
♪ ♪
1677
01:04:52,584 --> 01:04:54,455
- If I had to refer
to the hustler mentality
1678
01:04:54,542 --> 01:04:56,805
of the mixtapes,
the most memorable one
1679
01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:59,069
would probably be Young Jeezy.
1680
01:04:59,156 --> 01:05:02,159
- Mixtapes saved
my whole entire life.
1681
01:05:02,246 --> 01:05:05,118
- As far as Jeezy,
now their mixtapes?
1682
01:05:05,205 --> 01:05:06,685
- Like, that just
gave me a way out.
1683
01:05:06,772 --> 01:05:08,992
- Their mixtapes are stories.
1684
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:11,472
- It was the soundtrack of what
was going on in the streets.
1685
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:13,300
And I was knee deep in it.
1686
01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:14,693
- If you take these people
who are, like,
1687
01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:18,218
once in a generation
drug dealers,
1688
01:05:18,305 --> 01:05:19,393
people who are going
and spending
1689
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,960
hundreds of thousands
of dollars in a night--
1690
01:05:21,047 --> 01:05:23,745
- People knew what I was into.
1691
01:05:23,832 --> 01:05:25,356
But the music was real.
1692
01:05:25,443 --> 01:05:27,619
- No one's ever seen anything
like it, before or since.
1693
01:05:27,706 --> 01:05:29,229
- When Snowman
started popping,
1694
01:05:29,316 --> 01:05:31,405
he had a lot
of street support.
1695
01:05:31,492 --> 01:05:33,059
- Jeezy was the soundtrack
to it.
1696
01:05:33,146 --> 01:05:35,366
- It made us actually go out
and celebrate that,
1697
01:05:35,453 --> 01:05:37,934
and actually show it
and learn how to get out
1698
01:05:38,021 --> 01:05:39,936
of that actual word "trap."
1699
01:05:40,023 --> 01:05:41,676
- I just wanted to give
my music to people,
1700
01:05:41,763 --> 01:05:42,939
straight up.
1701
01:05:43,026 --> 01:05:44,201
If I get a deal, cool.
1702
01:05:44,288 --> 01:05:45,680
If I don't, you know,
it is what it is.
1703
01:05:47,987 --> 01:05:49,119
- When I think about Drama,
1704
01:05:49,206 --> 01:05:51,034
I always thought of stuff
like Jeezy.
1705
01:05:51,121 --> 01:05:52,992
- I used to call Dram, like,
"I want you to do my mixtape."
1706
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,821
This nigga would be like,
"Yo, I never heard of you.
1707
01:05:55,908 --> 01:05:56,953
You ain't hot."
1708
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,606
Like, what the fuck you mean?
1709
01:05:58,693 --> 01:05:59,520
Like, I'm the hottest
nigga in the streets.
1710
01:05:59,607 --> 01:06:00,521
You know I'm saying?
1711
01:06:00,608 --> 01:06:01,740
I came up with this plan.
1712
01:06:01,827 --> 01:06:02,959
I was like,
"I know what I'ma do."
1713
01:06:03,046 --> 01:06:05,222
I used to go to his crib
and pay him $500
1714
01:06:05,309 --> 01:06:06,658
every other week
to do my show tapes.
1715
01:06:10,705 --> 01:06:12,098
Trap or Die was a real thing.
1716
01:06:12,185 --> 01:06:13,665
I worked on it like
it was an album.
1717
01:06:13,752 --> 01:06:15,058
I was under a lot of pressure.
1718
01:06:15,145 --> 01:06:16,842
So my first frame of mind was,
1719
01:06:16,929 --> 01:06:18,191
put my blood, sweat, and tears
in this
1720
01:06:18,278 --> 01:06:21,673
in case I do go to prison
or do get killed.
1721
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,979
Like, they can hear
what I was working on.
1722
01:06:27,026 --> 01:06:28,723
And I remember when I went
and played it for Drama,
1723
01:06:28,810 --> 01:06:30,377
I played him the intro.
1724
01:06:31,422 --> 01:06:34,555
♪ There's so much white
it'll hurt ya eyes ♪
1725
01:06:34,642 --> 01:06:36,209
- I just remember his face,
and he just, like,
1726
01:06:36,296 --> 01:06:37,428
had this look on his face
1727
01:06:37,515 --> 01:06:40,257
like, "Oh, yeah,
you have arrived."
1728
01:06:40,344 --> 01:06:42,302
- To me, at that point,
Atlanta had something to say.
1729
01:06:42,389 --> 01:06:44,000
You know, the South
had something to say.
1730
01:06:44,087 --> 01:06:45,131
- It swept through Atlanta.
1731
01:06:45,218 --> 01:06:46,959
- Like wildfire.
1732
01:06:47,046 --> 01:06:49,527
- ♪ Here I stand,
a grown-ass man ♪
1733
01:06:49,614 --> 01:06:52,269
♪ All by myself,
a grown-ass man ♪
1734
01:06:52,356 --> 01:06:54,445
♪ A young nigga
with some grown-ass players ♪
1735
01:06:54,532 --> 01:06:57,665
♪ Who don't want fingers
so know that man ♪
1736
01:06:57,752 --> 01:06:59,493
- Thank god for the mixtape.
1737
01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:01,408
You know what I'm saying?
If you're gonna drop one...
1738
01:07:01,495 --> 01:07:05,021
♪ Most of these rappers
are compulsive liars ♪
1739
01:07:05,108 --> 01:07:06,544
It better be hard.
1740
01:07:06,631 --> 01:07:07,588
You feel me?
1741
01:07:07,675 --> 01:07:09,938
Straight up.
1742
01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:11,940
- Trap or Die
definitely changed
1743
01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:14,465
the world, the music world.
1744
01:07:14,552 --> 01:07:16,771
- I felt like I was on
the highway listening to--
1745
01:07:16,858 --> 01:07:18,295
you know, you felt
like you going through
1746
01:07:18,382 --> 01:07:19,644
Jeezy's struggle with him.
1747
01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:21,472
- I mean, this is no deal.
Right?
1748
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:23,952
- And so next time,
when he put out an album,
1749
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,172
you're an extra fan now.
1750
01:07:26,259 --> 01:07:28,218
You felt like, man,
I listened to your mixtape.
1751
01:07:28,305 --> 01:07:29,610
And if you was telling
the truth
1752
01:07:29,697 --> 01:07:31,612
on that mixtape, nigga,
you went through some shit,
1753
01:07:31,699 --> 01:07:33,962
so I'm happy to see
you put out this album.
1754
01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:36,139
- ♪ Realest nigga that ever
done it, breathing or dead ♪
1755
01:07:36,226 --> 01:07:37,314
♪ Let's get it ♪
1756
01:07:37,401 --> 01:07:38,663
♪ Two record deals, radio-- ♪
1757
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:41,579
[music playing sporadically]
1758
01:07:41,666 --> 01:07:48,760
♪ ♪
1759
01:07:48,847 --> 01:07:50,849
- ♪ Flaming hot lead burst
out the clear blue ♪
1760
01:07:50,936 --> 01:07:53,417
♪ We 730, Bellevue,
son, we dare you ♪
1761
01:07:53,504 --> 01:07:58,074
- At that time, if you had
a hit record on a mixtape,
1762
01:07:58,161 --> 01:07:59,988
that was as powerful
as a number one
1763
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:02,208
on the Hot 100 on "Billboard."
1764
01:08:02,295 --> 01:08:05,516
- If you stopped 10 cars
on the streets
1765
01:08:05,603 --> 01:08:07,431
that were playing music loud
1766
01:08:07,518 --> 01:08:09,302
and asked them
what they were playing,
1767
01:08:09,389 --> 01:08:12,610
I would say 50% of those cars
were playing a mixtape,
1768
01:08:12,697 --> 01:08:15,352
not a traditional label album.
1769
01:08:15,439 --> 01:08:17,615
- So when you start to see
those ice style watches
1770
01:08:17,702 --> 01:08:20,096
starting to pop and those big
old chains with the logos,
1771
01:08:20,183 --> 01:08:23,708
the fly rides,
1772
01:08:23,795 --> 01:08:26,711
DJ Clue in a Rolls Royce,
like, hold up.
1773
01:08:26,798 --> 01:08:28,321
What's happening here?
1774
01:08:28,408 --> 01:08:29,279
- And that's how
I actually kind of
1775
01:08:29,366 --> 01:08:30,976
scaled back a little bit.
1776
01:08:31,063 --> 01:08:32,282
Because it was getting
a little bit too hot.
1777
01:08:32,369 --> 01:08:34,153
The RIAA was on people's heels.
1778
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,894
So it was kind of
like, you know.
1779
01:08:35,981 --> 01:08:37,591
- They got involved because
when people are, quote,
1780
01:08:37,678 --> 01:08:39,724
unquote, stealing
master recordings,
1781
01:08:39,811 --> 01:08:41,465
it's up to them to step in,
1782
01:08:41,552 --> 01:08:43,597
on behalf of all
of the record labels,
1783
01:08:43,684 --> 01:08:45,773
et cetera, try to stop 'em.
1784
01:08:45,860 --> 01:08:47,427
- The mixtape DJ was an outlaw.
1785
01:08:47,514 --> 01:08:48,733
Okay?
1786
01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:49,908
The mixtape DJ--
the radio station
1787
01:08:49,995 --> 01:08:51,344
didn't really want him.
1788
01:08:51,431 --> 01:08:53,781
The record companies
really hated him.
1789
01:08:53,868 --> 01:08:55,043
- You couldn't go too far
over the radar.
1790
01:08:55,131 --> 01:08:56,697
You know what I mean?
1791
01:08:56,784 --> 01:08:58,221
Once you start going
overboard and you have, like,
1792
01:08:58,308 --> 01:08:59,657
catalogs with, like,
a lot of the major artists'
1793
01:08:59,744 --> 01:09:01,311
music on it--
1794
01:09:01,398 --> 01:09:03,182
- You're talking about
hundreds of thousands
1795
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:05,663
to millions of dollars lost
in profits
1796
01:09:05,750 --> 01:09:08,231
due to lack of sales.
1797
01:09:08,318 --> 01:09:10,450
- The record companies
got spooked.
1798
01:09:10,537 --> 01:09:12,800
- Whoever's in the line of fire
is gonna get taken down.
1799
01:09:12,887 --> 01:09:14,324
- They were like,
"Oh, we're losing sales.
1800
01:09:14,411 --> 01:09:15,586
We gotta do
something about this."
1801
01:09:15,673 --> 01:09:17,022
- The record companies,
they looking
1802
01:09:17,109 --> 01:09:18,763
at you funny at any moment.
1803
01:09:18,850 --> 01:09:20,939
The feds could be like,
"What do you got in your bag?"
1804
01:09:21,026 --> 01:09:23,333
Any moment!
At any moment.
1805
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:25,378
And some DJs did get hemmed up.
1806
01:09:27,554 --> 01:09:30,862
- Obviously you gotta talk
about Drama and Don Cannon.
1807
01:09:30,949 --> 01:09:33,169
Drama and Don Cannon--
they're the--
1808
01:09:33,256 --> 01:09:35,649
they're my last era
of mixtapes, for me.
1809
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:41,046
- I was giving my tapes away
because I wanted to get on.
1810
01:09:41,133 --> 01:09:43,135
They had enough sense
to make it a business.
1811
01:09:43,222 --> 01:09:46,704
- He took it to, like,
fucking Scarface-type shit.
1812
01:09:46,791 --> 01:09:49,794
- It was amazing to watch
how big Drama got.
1813
01:09:49,881 --> 01:09:51,709
- I felt like the golden child
at the time.
1814
01:09:51,796 --> 01:09:53,841
- Drama was one of those guys
that was able to get
1815
01:09:53,928 --> 01:09:56,279
maximum fame
out of having mixtapes.
1816
01:09:56,366 --> 01:09:57,802
- And I felt like
the industry was like,
1817
01:09:57,889 --> 01:09:59,586
"Okay, you have
to go see Drama.
1818
01:09:59,673 --> 01:10:00,892
"You have to be
on the Gangsta Grillz
1819
01:10:00,979 --> 01:10:02,459
before you put an album out."
1820
01:10:02,546 --> 01:10:04,330
- The Gangster Grillz
franchise probably
1821
01:10:04,417 --> 01:10:06,202
became the biggest franchise
in the history of mixtapes.
1822
01:10:06,289 --> 01:10:08,682
- He built up
a huge nationwide following.
1823
01:10:08,769 --> 01:10:10,206
- So Drama curated it.
He would distribute it.
1824
01:10:10,293 --> 01:10:11,729
He would host it.
1825
01:10:11,816 --> 01:10:15,080
- He had a room that had
about thousands of mixtapes.
1826
01:10:15,167 --> 01:10:17,213
All his Gangster Grillz,
volume, brrr,
1827
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:20,390
you know, we had 'em all.
1828
01:10:20,477 --> 01:10:22,957
- When I looked at it, it was
like, if you look at anyone
1829
01:10:23,044 --> 01:10:25,438
that was successful,
they all had
1830
01:10:25,525 --> 01:10:27,484
some relationships
with mixtapes.
1831
01:10:27,571 --> 01:10:29,660
- They were moving
tapes crazily.
1832
01:10:29,747 --> 01:10:32,053
Like, they had--it wasn't
just Atlanta locked down.
1833
01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:34,142
They had
the entire mixtape world.
1834
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:35,361
When I say world,
they were selling tapes
1835
01:10:35,448 --> 01:10:36,754
from here to Japan.
1836
01:10:36,841 --> 01:10:38,712
- I didn't realize that there
was another side
1837
01:10:38,799 --> 01:10:41,149
of where we come from
that didn't totally get it
1838
01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:44,065
and wasn't as happy
as we thought everyone was.
1839
01:10:44,152 --> 01:10:45,893
- You know, it's
obvious in terms
1840
01:10:45,980 --> 01:10:47,199
of a record label
wanting to make a sale,
1841
01:10:47,286 --> 01:10:49,506
and a mixtape DJ coming along.
1842
01:10:49,593 --> 01:10:51,899
- I remember Drama used to be
in like a Nissan or something.
1843
01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:53,292
All of a sudden, Drama
in Maseratis
1844
01:10:53,379 --> 01:10:54,685
and he had big Benz.
1845
01:10:54,772 --> 01:10:56,382
And I'm like, "What
the fuck is going on?
1846
01:10:56,469 --> 01:10:58,079
He can't be doing
that many mixtapes."
1847
01:10:58,166 --> 01:11:00,125
- You would think it was
like he was moving kilos
1848
01:11:00,212 --> 01:11:01,169
or something crazy like that.
1849
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:02,997
He was moving mixtapes.
1850
01:11:03,084 --> 01:11:04,999
- I don't know if I really saw
the heat coming.
1851
01:11:05,086 --> 01:11:07,785
[sirens blaring]
1852
01:11:07,872 --> 01:11:09,787
- This is where
the actual studio was,
1853
01:11:09,874 --> 01:11:11,702
this building right here.
1854
01:11:11,789 --> 01:11:15,140
I remember the day
that the raid happened.
1855
01:11:15,227 --> 01:11:18,317
I got a call from my mans
who was up here.
1856
01:11:18,404 --> 01:11:20,493
I almost felt like he was
looking out the window.
1857
01:11:20,580 --> 01:11:21,973
- So I went outside
to move my car.
1858
01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:23,453
- "Something's going on.
1859
01:11:23,540 --> 01:11:25,585
"The FBI,
there's mad police, cars,
1860
01:11:25,672 --> 01:11:27,892
"sirens everywhere in
front of their studio.
1861
01:11:27,979 --> 01:11:29,459
Yo, you need to get over here."
1862
01:11:29,546 --> 01:11:31,591
- Here come the trucks
and the sirens and...
1863
01:11:31,678 --> 01:11:34,899
- I see mad cops, FBI.
Yo, it felt like a movie.
1864
01:11:34,986 --> 01:11:37,293
- You know, they jump out and
pull out the M-16s
1865
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:39,295
and, you know, point 'em
right at me.
1866
01:11:39,382 --> 01:11:40,644
- Fulton County SWAT team
1867
01:11:40,731 --> 01:11:41,688
and officers
from Clayton County
1868
01:11:41,775 --> 01:11:44,212
raided DJ Drama's
Gangsta Grillz
1869
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:46,084
recording studio last night.
1870
01:11:46,171 --> 01:11:47,825
- [imitates static] "We got one
of the perps, Tyree Simmons."
1871
01:11:47,912 --> 01:11:49,043
And I'm like, "Oh, shit."
1872
01:11:49,130 --> 01:11:51,437
They read me my rights
and tell me
1873
01:11:51,524 --> 01:11:54,005
I'm being arrested for
bootlegging and racketeering
1874
01:11:54,092 --> 01:11:55,398
under the RICO law.
1875
01:11:55,485 --> 01:11:57,182
- Donald Cannon,
known as DJ Cannon,
1876
01:11:57,269 --> 01:11:59,663
and Tyree Simmons,
known as DJ Drama,
1877
01:11:59,750 --> 01:12:01,229
are accused of bootlegging
1878
01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,928
thousands of CDs
for sale on the Internet.
1879
01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:07,061
- The artists that they helped
break, be it Jeezy, Snoop,
1880
01:12:07,148 --> 01:12:10,717
Pharrell, no one had
any idea that the FBI
1881
01:12:10,804 --> 01:12:12,545
was gonna come knocking
on anybody's door,
1882
01:12:12,632 --> 01:12:14,112
let alone them.
1883
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:15,896
- Among the items seized,
1884
01:12:15,983 --> 01:12:17,594
50,000 counterfeit CDs,
1885
01:12:17,681 --> 01:12:19,335
recording equipment,
computers,
1886
01:12:19,422 --> 01:12:20,336
cars, cash.
1887
01:12:20,423 --> 01:12:22,163
- The feds had to come in like,
1888
01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:23,513
"Yo, you doing
too much, my man.
1889
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,036
You're getting too
much money right now."
1890
01:12:25,123 --> 01:12:27,647
- These niggas is making
way too much money.
1891
01:12:27,734 --> 01:12:29,562
So now they want in.
They want they cut.
1892
01:12:31,608 --> 01:12:33,958
- If they knock Drama,
like, nobody's safe.
1893
01:12:34,045 --> 01:12:36,917
- Then I got, like, ten calls
from about ten other DJs,
1894
01:12:37,004 --> 01:12:40,660
all concerned about the FBI
knocking on their door.
1895
01:12:40,747 --> 01:12:42,619
- Yo, dog, all our names
are on a list.
1896
01:12:42,706 --> 01:12:45,099
Like, they can get us all.
1897
01:12:45,186 --> 01:12:46,362
- Everybody was shook.
1898
01:12:46,449 --> 01:12:47,363
- Everybody was scared
shitless.
1899
01:12:47,450 --> 01:12:48,146
It was like, oh, shit.
1900
01:12:48,233 --> 01:12:50,627
It can happen to anybody.
1901
01:12:50,714 --> 01:12:51,976
- I mean, we're
not selling drugs.
1902
01:12:52,063 --> 01:12:55,501
We're, like, fucking putting
together incredible music.
1903
01:12:55,588 --> 01:12:56,807
- I knew that was it.
1904
01:12:56,894 --> 01:12:59,200
It was over.
1905
01:12:59,287 --> 01:13:02,508
- I was like, yo, I can't let
this culture die on my back.
1906
01:13:02,595 --> 01:13:03,901
You know what I'm saying?
1907
01:13:03,988 --> 01:13:07,078
Like, I didn't
come here for that.
1908
01:13:07,165 --> 01:13:08,209
- That was the one
that kind of, like,
1909
01:13:08,296 --> 01:13:10,037
blew the whole game up.
1910
01:13:10,124 --> 01:13:11,952
And I'm sure many
record labels, owners,
1911
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:14,651
and executives were smiling
and glad that he
1912
01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:16,304
was made an example of.
1913
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,742
- It actually was more of
a message to all the other DJs
1914
01:13:18,829 --> 01:13:20,483
and to hip-hop in general
that no matter
1915
01:13:20,570 --> 01:13:22,528
how big you get, no matter
how much money you make,
1916
01:13:22,615 --> 01:13:24,443
we can shut you down.
1917
01:13:24,530 --> 01:13:26,445
But they didn't.
1918
01:13:26,532 --> 01:13:29,056
- It definitely made me
more famous than I ever was.
1919
01:13:29,143 --> 01:13:30,971
♪ And we back, like that ♪
1920
01:13:31,058 --> 01:13:32,582
It got my record label excited
1921
01:13:32,669 --> 01:13:34,801
to put my album out
even faster.
1922
01:13:34,888 --> 01:13:37,064
♪ DJ Drama ♪
1923
01:13:37,151 --> 01:13:39,066
"Billboard" put me
on the cover of the magazine.
1924
01:13:39,153 --> 01:13:40,677
♪ The Philly's nigga ♪
1925
01:13:40,764 --> 01:13:43,636
You know.
So I was happy to be here
1926
01:13:43,723 --> 01:13:46,073
10, 11, 12 years later
1927
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,467
and watch the mixtape game,
in a different form,
1928
01:13:48,554 --> 01:13:52,166
still be bigger
than it ever was.
1929
01:13:52,253 --> 01:13:56,693
- You know, the story of
mixtapes going from criminal
1930
01:13:56,780 --> 01:13:59,739
to legitimate enterprise
is really the story
1931
01:13:59,826 --> 01:14:02,873
of the industry trying
to keep up with the culture.
1932
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,440
- I think the label
learned the lesson.
1933
01:14:04,527 --> 01:14:06,703
You can't fight them.
1934
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:09,096
You have to adapt.
1935
01:14:09,183 --> 01:14:11,925
- So without mixtapes, hip-hop
would probably be fucked up.
1936
01:14:13,753 --> 01:14:15,842
- Facts.
[object clatters]
1937
01:14:18,323 --> 01:14:20,238
- That's funny, dude.
1938
01:14:20,325 --> 01:14:22,414
So, yeah, just go through
this channel right here.
1939
01:14:22,501 --> 01:14:25,591
[record fast-forwarding]
1940
01:14:27,332 --> 01:14:28,899
- ♪ Blood stain on
the sidewalks ♪
1941
01:14:28,986 --> 01:14:30,553
♪ Another nigga hit
'cause of side talk ♪
1942
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,250
♪ Outline in silhouette,
white chalk ♪
1943
01:14:32,337 --> 01:14:33,730
♪ They popped off ♪
1944
01:14:33,817 --> 01:14:34,774
♪ Another son dead,
mom tears dried off ♪
1945
01:14:34,861 --> 01:14:36,994
♪ Every day in LA
they trying to show off ♪
1946
01:14:37,081 --> 01:14:38,909
♪ Daddy issues,
they never had a father ♪
1947
01:14:38,996 --> 01:14:39,953
♪ Show 'em right from wrong ♪
1948
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,607
♪ Fuck a tissue no emotion ♪
1949
01:14:41,694 --> 01:14:43,522
♪ They like, fuck a bitch,
hot boy summer ♪
1950
01:14:43,609 --> 01:14:45,002
♪ Credit card scammer
sucker bitch ♪
1951
01:14:45,089 --> 01:14:46,612
♪ Set the world aflame,
fuck everyone ♪
1952
01:14:46,699 --> 01:14:49,746
♪ Demon shit ♪
1953
01:14:49,833 --> 01:14:52,836
♪ And I'll just watch
the world set aflame ♪
1954
01:14:54,533 --> 01:14:55,665
♪ I pray for the youth ♪
1955
01:14:55,752 --> 01:14:57,536
♪ They'll remember his name ♪
1956
01:14:59,582 --> 01:15:02,976
♪ Another one down everyday ♪
1957
01:15:03,063 --> 01:15:07,198
♪ I--I--I just watch
the world set aflame ♪
1958
01:15:07,285 --> 01:15:08,982
♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
1959
01:15:09,069 --> 01:15:11,681
♪ I--I just watch
the world set aflame ♪
1960
01:15:11,768 --> 01:15:16,163
♪ ♪
1961
01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:20,994
- One of the things
that's happened with mixtapes
1962
01:15:21,081 --> 01:15:23,780
is that, as they've
grown in stature
1963
01:15:23,867 --> 01:15:25,346
and everyone wants
to be a part of it,
1964
01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,652
because they understand
the value
1965
01:15:26,739 --> 01:15:28,045
and the cultural
relevance of it,
1966
01:15:28,132 --> 01:15:31,222
there's been this perversion
of the term mixtape.
1967
01:15:31,309 --> 01:15:35,748
- A mixtape these days
is dead, history.
1968
01:15:35,835 --> 01:15:37,837
No longer.
It doesn't exist.
1969
01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:40,884
When they turned to people
just putting out albums,
1970
01:15:40,971 --> 01:15:43,364
you're just putting out
regular music,
1971
01:15:43,451 --> 01:15:45,584
meaning it's not a song
that's out.
1972
01:15:45,671 --> 01:15:48,631
This is produced music
you did in a studio,
1973
01:15:48,718 --> 01:15:51,198
and you put this shit out
and call it a mixtape.
1974
01:15:51,285 --> 01:15:52,635
No, that ain't a mixtape.
1975
01:15:52,722 --> 01:15:54,593
I'm sorry.
That ain't a mixtape.
1976
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:59,163
A mixtape is, jacked
somebody's beat and kill 'em.
1977
01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:01,687
And if you can't do that,
that ain't a mixtape.
1978
01:16:01,774 --> 01:16:03,994
That's an album
that you called a mixtape.
1979
01:16:04,081 --> 01:16:05,517
Yeah.
1980
01:16:05,604 --> 01:16:08,259
- So I think it's transformed,
1981
01:16:08,346 --> 01:16:09,695
mutated into something
1982
01:16:09,782 --> 01:16:12,350
that's absolutely vital.
1983
01:16:12,437 --> 01:16:15,701
But it doesn't have a lot
to do with where it started.
1984
01:16:18,095 --> 01:16:19,792
- Most of these artists
come up independent.
1985
01:16:19,879 --> 01:16:21,228
The label gets on late.
1986
01:16:21,315 --> 01:16:22,316
But these cats have
already blown up
1987
01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:24,057
on YouTube and the Internet.
1988
01:16:24,144 --> 01:16:25,145
And the reason why is
because they're streaming.
1989
01:16:25,232 --> 01:16:26,843
What are they streaming?
1990
01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:28,496
They're streaming on
Spotify and SoundCloud.
1991
01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:30,237
And so their version
of a mixtape,
1992
01:16:30,324 --> 01:16:31,587
which is online now,
1993
01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:33,153
has them performing
at festivals,
1994
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,851
getting $100,000 a show.
1995
01:16:34,938 --> 01:16:38,245
- We turned playlists
into mixtapes.
1996
01:16:38,332 --> 01:16:40,334
- You make a playlist.
Curate your best playlists,
1997
01:16:40,421 --> 01:16:42,162
because that's all
somebody gonna do.
1998
01:16:42,249 --> 01:16:43,773
They're gonna nitpick
through your project.
1999
01:16:43,860 --> 01:16:45,296
Before, people used
to pay the full amount,
2000
01:16:45,383 --> 01:16:47,341
so they would just listen to
the whole shit back and forth.
2001
01:16:47,428 --> 01:16:48,647
And like, I paid
them for this shit.
2002
01:16:48,734 --> 01:16:50,170
- It was different for me
coming up
2003
01:16:50,257 --> 01:16:51,911
'cause you have a record,
and it had life.
2004
01:16:51,998 --> 01:16:53,609
There was a story behind it.
2005
01:16:53,696 --> 01:16:55,393
Now it's like,
the song comes out.
2006
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:56,960
Poof, it's out.
It's in and out.
2007
01:16:57,047 --> 01:16:58,701
The next week, the next record.
2008
01:16:58,788 --> 01:17:01,181
- You don't hear nobody just
blowing up because they did
2009
01:17:01,268 --> 01:17:03,749
a dope freestyle on the radio.
You don't hear nobody.
2010
01:17:03,836 --> 01:17:06,883
Like literally people are
online, posted up with smoke,
2011
01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:10,016
posted up with guns, posted up
with bitches, online,
2012
01:17:10,103 --> 01:17:13,237
on they block, online,
2013
01:17:13,324 --> 01:17:16,283
shooting motherfuckers
on Facebook Live online,
2014
01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:18,851
getting locked up online.
2015
01:17:18,938 --> 01:17:20,810
Streets definitely online.
Sorry to tell you.
2016
01:17:20,897 --> 01:17:22,202
- That's the game, man,
mixtape streams.
2017
01:17:22,289 --> 01:17:23,464
It's pretty much all the same.
2018
01:17:23,551 --> 01:17:25,075
It's just reinvented.
2019
01:17:25,162 --> 01:17:26,511
- Yeah, you can call it
whatever you wanna call it,
2020
01:17:26,598 --> 01:17:28,339
playlists or whatever.
It's a mixtape.
2021
01:17:28,426 --> 01:17:29,688
You know the vibes.
[laughing]
2022
01:17:29,775 --> 01:17:31,647
- That's the power
of that word.
2023
01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:33,953
You know, it's transcended.
2024
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,958
- These psychologies with
the cassette, long gone now,
2025
01:17:39,045 --> 01:17:41,787
but affecting us
in certain ways
2026
01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:44,485
that we don't even remember
where it came from.
2027
01:17:44,572 --> 01:17:46,313
- As for another mixtape
from me,
2028
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,927
you'll be able to stream 13
to 14 other people's songs
2029
01:17:51,014 --> 01:17:53,277
that your dog just
fucking slaughtered.
2030
01:17:54,278 --> 01:17:56,149
That's a mixtape.
2031
01:17:59,370 --> 01:18:02,852
- What we gonna do
right here is go back,
2032
01:18:02,939 --> 01:18:04,680
way back, back into time.
2033
01:18:04,767 --> 01:18:07,465
[hip-hop music]
2034
01:18:07,552 --> 01:18:10,033
- The mixtape DJ
showed everyone
2035
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,601
what hip-hop is
supposed to sound like,
2036
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:17,649
unrestricted, uncut.
2037
01:18:19,782 --> 01:18:20,739
Here's the music.
2038
01:18:20,826 --> 01:18:23,742
[hip-hop music]
2039
01:18:23,829 --> 01:18:24,569
♪ ♪
2040
01:18:24,656 --> 01:18:26,397
- Freedom is a road
2041
01:18:26,484 --> 01:18:29,487
that's seldom traveled
by the multitude.
2042
01:18:29,574 --> 01:18:31,271
- ♪ Over here with
number one ♪
2043
01:18:31,358 --> 01:18:36,537
- ♪ Show 'em--show 'em--
show 'em what you got ♪
2044
01:18:36,624 --> 01:18:38,539
- ♪ Don't call it a comeback ♪
2045
01:18:38,626 --> 01:18:40,324
♪ Don't call it a comeback ♪
2046
01:18:40,411 --> 01:18:41,934
♪ Don't--I say,
don't call it a-- ♪
2047
01:18:42,021 --> 01:18:45,764
♪ ♪
2048
01:18:45,851 --> 01:18:47,200
- I made a couple of dollars.
2049
01:18:47,287 --> 01:18:52,466
But some of y'all ran off
on the plug, with the bag.
2050
01:18:52,553 --> 01:18:53,685
Y'all got it.
2051
01:18:53,772 --> 01:18:55,295
And you didn't go to jail.
2052
01:18:55,382 --> 01:18:56,993
Nigga, what's up?
2053
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,430
[laughing]
2054
01:18:59,517 --> 01:19:00,997
- Never mind that.
Oh.
2055
01:19:01,084 --> 01:19:01,998
What was it again?
2056
01:19:02,085 --> 01:19:03,260
I fucked up.
2057
01:19:05,044 --> 01:19:06,393
It's that pothead shit.
2058
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,874
What's up?
2059
01:19:08,961 --> 01:19:10,789
My short-term memory sucks.
2060
01:19:10,876 --> 01:19:13,749
My long-term memory is amazing.
2061
01:19:13,836 --> 01:19:16,316
Never mind that.
Focus on this dope shit.
2062
01:19:16,403 --> 01:19:18,101
- You go to the next one.
2063
01:19:18,188 --> 01:19:19,624
Yes.
2064
01:19:32,245 --> 01:19:35,118
[bold hip-hop music]
2065
01:19:35,205 --> 01:19:36,510
♪ ♪
2066
01:19:36,597 --> 01:19:38,991
- Little Simmons right here.
- Big D.
2067
01:19:39,078 --> 01:19:42,212
- ♪ Huh, hoo ♪
Damn.
2068
01:19:42,299 --> 01:19:44,388
♪ Slow down, baby ♪
2069
01:19:44,475 --> 01:19:45,781
♪ Slow down, baby ♪
2070
01:19:47,043 --> 01:19:48,958
♪ Slow down, baby ♪
2071
01:19:49,045 --> 01:19:50,394
♪ The whole town's crazy ♪
2072
01:19:50,481 --> 01:19:51,351
♪ Motion picture, nigga ♪
2073
01:19:51,438 --> 01:19:52,352
- ♪ What up, AZ? ♪
2074
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,353
- ♪ Diaz brothers ♪
2075
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:54,877
- ♪ With Sosa, huh ♪
2076
01:19:54,964 --> 01:19:56,356
- ♪ Wapo ♪
- ♪ It's only right ♪
2077
01:19:56,443 --> 01:19:57,880
- ♪ Toca♪
- ♪ Let's go ♪
2078
01:19:57,967 --> 01:20:00,186
♪ Scratch,
you know what it is ♪
2079
01:20:00,273 --> 01:20:01,448
♪ Let's turn up one 'em.
Ya heard ♪
2080
01:20:01,535 --> 01:20:03,146
- ♪ Pharmaceutical shit,
nigga ♪
2081
01:20:03,233 --> 01:20:04,756
- ♪ Slow down, baby ♪
- ♪ That's right ♪
2082
01:20:04,843 --> 01:20:06,540
- ♪ Slow down, baby ♪
- ♪ Yo ♪
2083
01:20:06,627 --> 01:20:08,238
♪ Talk to 'em, why ♪
2084
01:20:08,325 --> 01:20:09,630
♪ Them trailblazers
back at it ♪
2085
01:20:09,717 --> 01:20:11,154
♪ Raise your glasses to them ♪
2086
01:20:11,241 --> 01:20:12,720
♪ Not your average niggas,
we make magic ♪
2087
01:20:12,808 --> 01:20:14,679
♪ But no rabbits, nigga,
we just pulling out gat ♪
2088
01:20:14,766 --> 01:20:16,681
- ♪ And yo, Rob, we got
shooters for that shit ♪
2089
01:20:16,768 --> 01:20:18,465
- ♪ My bad, kid,
I caught a flashback ♪
2090
01:20:18,552 --> 01:20:20,424
♪ Hashtag, TBT, 1998 ♪
2091
01:20:20,511 --> 01:20:21,991
♪ You and me up at D&D ♪
2092
01:20:22,078 --> 01:20:24,167
♪ Cooking up that
D-I-A-Z brother crack ♪
2093
01:20:24,254 --> 01:20:25,342
- ♪ Wapo ♪
- ♪ What up ♪
2094
01:20:25,429 --> 01:20:26,909
- ♪ It's time to double back ♪
2095
01:20:26,996 --> 01:20:28,432
- ♪ Paint 'em
with the Dapper Dan leather ♪
2096
01:20:28,519 --> 01:20:29,825
♪ We rap better
than rap niggas ♪
2097
01:20:29,912 --> 01:20:31,130
♪ Even though
we scratch records ♪
2098
01:20:31,217 --> 01:20:32,305
♪ I'm about to smack academic ♪
2099
01:20:32,392 --> 01:20:34,394
- ♪ Never mind that
focus on this dope shit ♪
2100
01:20:34,481 --> 01:20:36,744
- ♪ I know, but these vultures
is fucking up the culture ♪
2101
01:20:36,832 --> 01:20:37,963
- ♪ But it's a new day ♪
- ♪ Oh, well ♪
2102
01:20:38,050 --> 01:20:39,922
♪ Let's give 'em new work ♪
2103
01:20:40,009 --> 01:20:41,619
♪ Have him running out the
club like jewels and new work ♪
2104
01:20:41,706 --> 01:20:43,447
♪ Jumping in the Uber
talking about ♪
2105
01:20:43,534 --> 01:20:44,448
- ♪ Do you remember ♪
2106
01:20:44,535 --> 01:20:47,407
[hip-hop music]
2107
01:20:47,494 --> 01:20:52,717
♪ ♪
2108
01:20:52,804 --> 01:20:54,501
♪ You know how we do ♪
2109
01:20:54,588 --> 01:20:56,068
♪ It's a full time jack move ♪
2110
01:20:56,155 --> 01:20:57,026
♪ Got to be cool ♪
2111
01:20:57,113 --> 01:20:58,854
♪ Yeah, I'm that dude ♪
2112
01:20:58,941 --> 01:21:00,464
♪ And even though
the track smooth ♪
2113
01:21:00,551 --> 01:21:02,858
♪ I'ma talk smack
in that groove ♪
2114
01:21:02,945 --> 01:21:04,511
♪ And call 'em out ♪
2115
01:21:04,598 --> 01:21:06,252
♪ I don't know what these
rappers is talking about ♪
2116
01:21:06,339 --> 01:21:09,168
♪ See me and my man's
got all the clout ♪
2117
01:21:09,255 --> 01:21:10,996
♪ Cause Diaz brothers
gonna work it out ♪
2118
01:21:11,083 --> 01:21:12,389
- ♪ We gonna work it out ♪
2119
01:21:12,476 --> 01:21:14,086
- ♪ It's the tale of the tape ♪
2120
01:21:14,173 --> 01:21:15,914
♪ Five foot 11 with
a tail and a cape ♪
2121
01:21:16,001 --> 01:21:17,785
♪ Plus I'm weighing
in like a buck 88 ♪
2122
01:21:17,873 --> 01:21:20,223
♪ And once it all drops,
I'm upping the rate ♪
2123
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:21,702
- ♪ Bring it back ♪
2124
01:21:21,789 --> 01:21:23,226
- ♪ Do you know you
fucking with? ♪
2125
01:21:23,313 --> 01:21:25,010
♪ Me, Wapo oh yeah
and a bunch of spics ♪
2126
01:21:25,097 --> 01:21:27,752
♪ And we always keep
something lit ♪
2127
01:21:27,839 --> 01:21:29,623
♪ And stay free
from that sucker shit ♪
2128
01:21:29,710 --> 01:21:32,626
[hip-hop music]
2129
01:21:32,713 --> 01:21:36,935
♪ ♪
2130
01:21:37,501 --> 01:21:39,111
- ♪ On the corners
of Prineville ♪
2131
01:21:39,198 --> 01:21:40,939
♪ I let the thing talk to you ♪
2132
01:21:41,026 --> 01:21:42,462
♪ I'm talking the mark to you ♪
2133
01:21:42,549 --> 01:21:43,899
♪ Same talk to you ♪
2134
01:21:43,986 --> 01:21:45,422
♪ Y'all niggas doing
felony crime ♪
2135
01:21:45,509 --> 01:21:47,728
♪ For them niggas
that won't jaywalk for you ♪
2136
01:21:47,815 --> 01:21:49,643
♪ Diaz bros, bring it back ♪
2137
01:21:49,730 --> 01:21:51,689
♪ Throw me to the wolves,
return leading the pack ♪
2138
01:21:51,776 --> 01:21:53,821
♪ From the days when
you get your face caved in ♪
2139
01:21:53,909 --> 01:21:56,868
♪ Crushed in, face
down on the pavement ♪
2140
01:21:56,955 --> 01:22:00,872
♪ Hashtag when I drop by,
50 emcees, 95 live ♪
2141
01:22:00,959 --> 01:22:03,005
♪ Stomping this bitch,
side by side ♪
2142
01:22:03,092 --> 01:22:05,094
♪ Talking to Mac Lizzie,
five time five ♪
2143
01:22:05,181 --> 01:22:07,357
♪ Young boy shit,
who wants rope ♪
2144
01:22:07,444 --> 01:22:09,533
♪ The return of the rampage
two point oh, motherfucker ♪
2145
01:22:09,620 --> 01:22:12,536
[hip-hop music]
2146
01:22:12,623 --> 01:22:17,976
♪ ♪
2147
01:22:18,063 --> 01:22:19,499
- ♪ I'm on a rampage ♪
2148
01:22:19,586 --> 01:22:23,547
♪ ♪
2149
01:22:33,209 --> 01:22:40,129
♪ ♪
2150
01:23:44,932 --> 01:23:48,023
[smooth hip-hop music]
2151
01:23:48,110 --> 01:23:55,030
♪ ♪
2152
01:26:07,336 --> 01:26:10,252
- We just serving history,
just keeping it what it is.
2153
01:26:10,339 --> 01:26:12,428
See, we don't have so many
things that we had back then--
2154
01:26:12,515 --> 01:26:14,517
fucking mixtape,
fucking music, just things
2155
01:26:14,604 --> 01:26:15,692
we had back then.
2156
01:26:15,779 --> 01:26:17,607
We don't have 'em,
and we miss 'em.
2157
01:26:17,694 --> 01:26:20,218
So, shit, if we can still
have a little bit of it
2158
01:26:20,305 --> 01:26:22,699
and still call it what
it was, then let's do it.
2159
01:26:22,786 --> 01:26:24,353
But make sure it's
a fucking mixtape though.
2160
01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:26,137
Make sure it's a beat
that you--
2161
01:26:26,224 --> 01:26:27,356
you know what I just
said earlier.
2162
01:26:27,443 --> 01:26:28,661
Please.
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