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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,680 I like to summarize the evidence using four wars that begin with the letter E. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,320 And I'll go through it quickly, but if you have any follow-up sur questions, I can elaborate on any of them. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,880 The first E stands for execution. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Was Jesus dead after being crucified? 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,800 And the answer is absolutely yes. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:22,640 As was said in the film, there is no record anywhere of anybody ever surviving a full-room 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,160 crucifixion. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Even the Journal of the American Medical Association, which is a secular, 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,040 peer-reviewed scientific medical journal carried an investigation into the medical and 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,240 historical evidence for the death of Jesus and said clearly there's a quote clearly 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,100 the weight of the historical and medical evidence indicates that Jesus was dead even 12 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:47,640 before the wound to his side was inflicted. 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,100 We've got you could you could go to an atheist New Testament scholar like Garrett 14 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:58,720 Luteman formally abandoned and he'll tell you that Jesus death as a consequence of crucifixion 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,720 is indisputable. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:08,000 And one of the reasons I found that it's so universally agreed by historians that he was 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:14,000 dead after being crucified is that when you study ancient history, we're lucky if we have 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,880 one or two sources to confirm a fact. 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:23,120 But for the death of Jesus, we not only have multiple, early, first century accounts in the 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,160 documents of the New Testament, we've also got five ancient sources outside the Bible, confirming 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,660 a corroborating that he died. 22 00:01:30,660 --> 00:01:32,680 And Josephus, for century Jewish historian, 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,800 to work for the Romans, 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,760 tacit as another early historian, 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,520 Maribar Serapian, Lucien, 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,000 even the Jewish Talmud admits he was dead. 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,160 So the first he is execution Jesus was, 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,280 second is most interesting. 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Sands for early. 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,480 We have early accounts or early reports 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,320 that Jesus rose from the dead. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 In other words, reports go right back to the beginning. 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Why is it important? 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,920 I used to think like a lot of skeptics 35 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,040 that the resurrection was a legend. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,000 And I knew it took time for legend to develop 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,720 in the ancient world. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,560 So I figured, you know, 150 years after the death of Jesus, 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,680 legends developed mythologies were spawned. 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Stories were invented and that's where the idea 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,400 of the resurrection came from. 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,000 But what I learned and I've continued this investigation 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,360 to the present day, I might continue to look into this. 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,560 What I've learned, I think, 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 decimates the claim that the resurrection is a legend. 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:35,080 and here's why. We have preserved for us a creed of the earliest Christians, a creed, 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:41,560 a statement of conviction based on eyewitness accounts that the earliest Christians right there 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,680 in the first century would rally around based on facts that they knew to be true. So this creed 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:52,120 contains the essence of Christianity says Jesus died. Why? For our sins, he was buried. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,720 And the third day he rolls from the dead and then it mentions the specific names of 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,960 eyewitnesses and groups of eyewitnesses to whom he appeared, including 500 people at once. 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,840 And then it says parenthetically, by the way, a lot of those folks are still around. 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,520 So if you don't believe me, go ahead and talk to yourself. 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,360 You're there around. 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,560 You can question them. 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Now this creed has been dated back by scholars to within months of the death of Jesus. 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,800 How do we know? 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Well, the Apostle Paul preserved it for us. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,920 He wrote a letter to the church in Corinth, 60 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:31,320 about 21 to 25 years after the death of Jesus. 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,840 He reports he recounts this creed, 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,840 and he indicates, past tense, I already gave you this creed 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,680 earlier. 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,760 So, let's say within 20 years, 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,400 he had given this creed to the church in Corinth. 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,240 We could stop there, and that would be very impressive, 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,920 when you consider the first two biographies 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,080 the veil extended the great by Aryan and Plutarch written 400 years after his life, and 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,680 they're generally considered reliable. 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,840 So within 20 years is really good, but we can go back earlier because we know the Paul 71 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,840 used to be Saul of Tarsus, a persecutor, a hater of Christians. 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,800 One to three years after the death of Jesus, he's under road to Damascus, Pumi has us encounter 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,040 with the risen Christ, he becomes the apostle Paul. 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Immediately he goes into Damascus and he meets with some apostles. 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,000 A many scholars believe this is when he was given the creed that he later writes in the letter. 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,840 But others say, "Wait, it may have been three years later." 77 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:28,120 Three years later, Paul goes to Jerusalem and he meets for 15 days with two eyewitnesses 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,200 to the resurrection who were specifically named in the creed, Peter and James. 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,880 And the Greek were the Paul uses and Galatians to describe this meeting, suggests that this 80 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,080 was an investigative inquiry that were checking each other out. 81 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,080 What do you know? 82 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,080 What did you see? 83 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:49,080 And some scholars believe this is when he was given the creed by two people specifically named in the creed. 84 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:55,720 But either way, this means within one to six years after the death of Jesus, this creed is already in existence. 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,560 And therefore the beliefs that make up that creed go back earlier virtually to the cross itself. 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:07,880 In fact, probably the greatest scholar in this area, Dr. James D. G. Dunn says, this is a quote. 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,000 He says, "This tradition, by that he means this creed, 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 "we can be entirely confident, 89 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,440 "was formulated as a creed as tradition 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,800 "within months of the death of Jesus, within months." 91 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 That is far too quick to write it off as a legend. 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200 In fact, one of the greatest classical historians 93 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,360 who ever lived was a insurwen white of Oxford. 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 He understood the rate at which legend developed 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,640 in the ancient world. 96 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,160 And he said, "The passage of two generations of time 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,160 is not even enough for legend to grow up 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,080 and wipe out a solid core of a historical truth. 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,080 We don't have two generations of time pass in here. 100 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,480 We got a new flash and new flash 101 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,440 that goes right back to the beginning. 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,520 So we have early, and we've got other early accounts 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,160 right from the first century in Matthew Mark 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Luke John the Book of Acts and so forth. 105 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,800 So Jesus was dead execution early accounts, 106 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,560 which I believe discounts of possibility 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,600 that's a legend. 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,440 30 is for empty-two. 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,840 And there's lots of reasons why we believe the two 110 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,960 is empty, but I think the most convincing reason 111 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,840 is that even the opponents of Jesus implicitly admitted 112 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,400 that it was empty. 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,240 How do we know? 114 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,840 Well, because when the disciples began proclaiming 115 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,840 that Jesus had risen, what the opponents of Jesus said, 116 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,360 we know this in sources inside and outside the New Testament, 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 that what the opponent said was, so disciples, 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Jesus has risen, opponents. 119 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,040 Oh, well, the disciple stole the body. 120 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Now, think about that. 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,800 That's a cover story. 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,840 They're implicitly admitting the two Mezzempty 123 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,320 through trying to explain how it got empty. 124 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,160 Right? 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,720 It's like if you're a student, I mean a teacher, 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,280 and a student comes up to you and says, 127 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,480 "A dog ate my homework." 128 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,560 That students are admitting, 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,640 "Look, I don't have my homework, 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,240 but I can explain what happened to it, the dog ate it." 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,280 It's the same thing. 132 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,280 So everybody said admitting the two Mezzempty. 133 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:01,600 That's not the issue. 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,000 the issue is how did it get empty. 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,240 And then the fourth E stands for eyewitnesses. 136 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Not only was Jesus tuned discovered empty, 137 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,920 but over a period of time, he appears alive. 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,400 It doesn't different instances to more than 550 people, 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 to skeptics and doubters, to men, 140 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,200 to women, to groups, to individuals, indoors, outdoors, 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,120 daytime, nighttime, the disciples, talk to them. 142 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:26,960 They ate with them. 143 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,280 They touched him. 144 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,000 But here's what's interesting about the eyewitnesses. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,920 Remember I said earlier, in ancient history, 146 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,160 we're lucky if we have one or two sources 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 to confirm a fact. 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Well, for the conviction of the disciples 149 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,960 that they encountered the resurrected Jesus, 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,520 we have no fewer than nine ancient sources. 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Inside and outside the New Testament, 152 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,680 confirming and corroborating the conviction of the disciples 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 that they encountered the resurrected Jesus. 154 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,000 That is an avalanche of historical data. 155 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,200 >> Yeah. 156 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,000 >> And it's convincing because as you mentioned in the book, 157 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 he talks about how the disciples later gave their lives 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,080 for these claims and the pushback you got, 159 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,680 of course, was, well, people die for lies all the time. 160 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,840 And which is true. 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,840 >> Yeah. 162 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,520 >> But people don't die for things they know to be lies. 163 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,360 >> Exactly. 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,440 >> And I've repeated that, right? 165 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,880 I've repeated that so many times. 166 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,320 I got it from him. 167 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,160 All right. 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,520 And my congregation, SIG, if you're in a bother, 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,960 probably, but that is one of the lunchbans of your argument. 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Absolutely. 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,600 When we talk about the tomb being empty, 172 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,920 well, the disciples stole the body. 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,400 What's the problem with that claim 174 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,400 is that they wouldn't have then given their lives for a lie. 175 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,200 If they stole the body, they would have known, 176 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,240 and they would have given up at some point, 177 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,040 and just going on about their lives. 178 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,600 And Rome and the Jews would have been happy 179 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,680 to let them do that. 180 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:57,440 but they didn't, they pressed on. 181 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,680 And we have seven ancient sources, six of them 182 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:02,160 outside the Bible that tell us 183 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,320 that the disciples lived lives of deprivation 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,880 and suffering as a result of their proclamation 185 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,000 that Jesus had risen. 186 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,760 What actually happened to a few of the disciples 187 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,480 because a little bit blurry in history, 188 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,600 but that's not the point. 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 The point is they're willing this to die for it. 190 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,040 And that is established beyond any doubt 191 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,720 by the ancient record. 192 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:20,880 And you're absolutely right. 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,880 That was one of the final blocks 194 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,520 that went into the case. 195 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Yeah, I mean, because I thought, well, golly, 196 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,560 they're all kinds of religious fanatics 197 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,640 who will die for what they believe is true. 198 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Comic-Cocasi pilots in World War II 199 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,240 would crash their planes, 200 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,120 'cause they believe spiritually 201 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,800 if they die this way, they go to heaven. 202 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,200 Terrorists will die. 203 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,760 Why are they willing to die in the process 204 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,000 of these crimes that they commit? 205 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Because they believe and they've been taught, 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,060 They believe it to the core of their being. 207 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:57,740 If they die this way, they'll go to heaven. 208 00:09:57,740 --> 00:10:00,180 But they can't know that for a fact. 209 00:10:00,180 --> 00:10:01,180 They just believe it. 210 00:10:01,180 --> 00:10:03,020 They were taught it and they believe it. 211 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:05,880 The contrast is the disciples were in unique position 212 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,280 and know for a fact. 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,220 Whether this is true or whether it's alive, 214 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:10,700 they talked to the resurrected Jesus, 215 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:12,060 they touched them, they ate with them. 216 00:10:12,060 --> 00:10:14,120 They knew the truth. 217 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,340 - And they had the empty tomb. 218 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:17,660 - And they had the empty tomb, which backs it up as well. 219 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:22,100 So, I think it's a very strong. 220 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:27,060 Now some people say, and this is one of my counter arguments that I came up with, a couple 221 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:34,060 things, one was, well wait a minute, they didn't bury crucifixion victims. 222 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:37,380 They didn't bury execution victims back in the Roman times. 223 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:41,980 They would throw their bodies in a pit to be eaten by the dogs or they'd leave them 224 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:44,140 on the cross, be eaten by the birds. 225 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:48,220 So of course Jesus' tomb was empty, he wasn't in the first place. 226 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:50,980 I thought, yeah, what about that? 227 00:10:50,980 --> 00:10:52,980 And then I looked into it, and one of my fine, 228 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:55,100 the Roman digesta, which is a summary of 229 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:57,660 Lawn procedure from the Roman Empire, 230 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:01,060 specifically does allow for bodies of execution victims 231 00:11:01,060 --> 00:11:02,660 who be turned over for burial. 232 00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:05,860 Number two, several years ago, 233 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:09,580 probably back in the early 90s, 234 00:11:09,580 --> 00:11:13,900 they discovered the body of a buried crucifixion victim. 235 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:17,740 He still had the spike through his heel bone 236 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:20,540 and a piece of the olive wood attached. 237 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:24,340 And so he had been buried, so certainly somewhere buried, 238 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:27,140 and then just recently within the last year, 239 00:11:27,140 --> 00:11:29,500 they uncovered another crucifixion victim 240 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:30,980 who had been buried. 241 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:35,180 Again, with the evidence of the crucifixion reflected 242 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:35,740 in the bones. 243 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:39,340 So some indeed were buried. 244 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:40,900 So that kind of shoots at that. 245 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,500 The other argument that I bought for a while 246 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:48,500 was that these were visions or hallucinations, 247 00:11:50,140 --> 00:11:54,060 that the disciples didn't really encounter Jesus, they hallucinated. 248 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:58,020 And it's interesting that one of the most famous atheists 249 00:11:58,020 --> 00:12:01,460 New Testament scholars, Gared Ludeman, said 250 00:12:01,460 --> 00:12:05,380 that it is certain. 251 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:07,900 Historically, it is a virtually a quote. 252 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:10,740 He said, it is historically certain 253 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:14,260 that Peter and the other disciples had experiences 254 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:17,700 after Jesus' death in which Jesus appeared to them 255 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,220 as the risen Christ. 256 00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:20,060 - Wow. 257 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:21,060 - That's the atheist talking. 258 00:12:21,060 --> 00:12:22,420 Well, why is he still an atheist? 259 00:12:22,420 --> 00:12:24,300 'Cause he believes these were visions, 260 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,180 these were hallucinations. 261 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:28,900 So, I'm a journalist, I check things out. 262 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:31,900 So I went to an expert on the human mind. 263 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:34,260 PhD in psychology, professor of psychology 264 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:37,580 for 20 years in a major Midwestern university, 265 00:12:37,580 --> 00:12:40,660 written over 20 or 30 books on psychology. 266 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:43,980 He was a president of a national association of psychologists. 267 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,900 And I laid out all the historical data and I said, 268 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:48,500 "Now, Dr. Collins, when you admit to me, 269 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:51,000 These disciples didn't encounter the resurrected Jesus. 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 They just had hallucinations. 271 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,100 And he looked at me and said, "That's not possible." 272 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:58,500 I said, "Well, you seem pretty sure yourself." 273 00:12:58,500 --> 00:12:59,500 He said, "I am." 274 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:03,000 And he said, "You got to understand something about the nature of hallucinations." 275 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,200 "H hallucinations are like dreams." 276 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,400 They happen in individual minds. 277 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,400 They don't spread like the common cold. 278 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,000 It's not like you can wake your wife up in the middle of the night and say, "Honey, honey, 279 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 I'm having a dream about a vacation in Maui." 280 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Let's both go back to sleep. 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,460 We have the same dream. 282 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:20,740 We'll save all the airfare. 283 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:22,640 We'll save all the hotel costs. 284 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,200 I mean, be great if we could do that. 285 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,120 But why can't we do that? 286 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Because dreams happen in individual minds. 287 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,360 And that's the same with the hallucination. 288 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,800 In fact, he looked at me and he said, 289 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Lee, you're earliest account. 290 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,480 You're most reliable historically. 291 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,240 The earliest account says that 500 people 292 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,440 encountered the resurrected Jesus at one time. 293 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,560 He said, Lee, 500 people. 294 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,220 have in the same hallucination at the same time 295 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:51,100 would be a bigger miracle than the resurrection. 296 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:54,440 And then he said, and by the way, if these were just 297 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 hallucinations, then I assume the body's still in the two. 298 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:58,320 Whoops. 299 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,800 Oops. 300 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Yeah. 301 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,120 That's gone. 302 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,560 And then I said, well, what if it's something more subtle? 303 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:07,400 And I think this is what Dr. Aloudum and the atheist would say. 304 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,440 That these were visions. 305 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,680 And this is a known psychological phenomenon 306 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,840 that people want something so much if they're primed for it, 307 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 they can actually see things that aren't there. 308 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 You know, they mischias us so much. 309 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,840 He was there leader, he loved him. 310 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Oh John, can't you see him? 311 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,440 He's back. 312 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 I see him over there in the shadows. 313 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Well, there's a problem with that. 314 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,040 James, the half brother of Jesus, 315 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,840 was a skeptic about Jesus during Jesus' lifetime. 316 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,800 He wasn't psychologically primed, primed, 317 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:39,800 have a vision. 318 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,240 But his brother returned from the dead. 319 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,520 And yet, for his Corinthians 15 says, 320 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,920 Jesus appeared to Him, what happened to Him? 321 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,320 He became a leader of the church 322 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,320 proclaiming that His brother had risen 323 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,080 and He was murdered for His faith. 324 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,880 And then the apostle Paul hated Christians. 325 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 He wasn't psychologically prime for a resurrection, 326 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,880 which by the way was totally against the teachings 327 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,520 of Judaism of the day, 328 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,720 that there would be one resurrection in the end, 329 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 not anything in the interim. 330 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,720 And Paul wasn't psychologically prime for vision. 331 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,720 And yet, he had this encounter with Christ. 332 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,720 So it's another little piece that we don't talk about a lot. 333 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Evidence against the legend theory that the resurrection of Jesus was a legend, because 334 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,720 legends must fulfill some preconceived expectation. 335 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:32,220 And the resurrection of Jesus as it happened was not expected or anticipated by anyone. 336 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:39,720 Not even the most fundamentalist of or orthodox of Jewish folks at the time expected there to be one man who would be resurrected first 337 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,120 before all the rest of us are later. 338 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,520 And so even the disciples have told us 339 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,920 that they didn't expect it. 340 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,320 They didn't even know what was happening 341 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,120 after. 342 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Right. 343 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,120 He resurrected like he's there in front of them 344 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,920 like a whole new body like hey guys 345 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,320 and they're like doubting him. 346 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:54,520 Yeah. 347 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 As he says they worship Tim and some doubt it. 348 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Yeah. 349 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,720 The same time and Jesus is like what else do I have to do? 350 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Yeah. 351 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Yeah, to prove this to you guys. 352 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,520 And that's another reason why we value doubting here. 353 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,720 It's because it's the tradition 354 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,480 all this Christianity itself, but it has to be doubt-sedirected toward Jesus instead of 355 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,720 an isolation away from him. 28117

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