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(Crowd cheering)
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I'm ready to retire.
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Forthe last couple of years
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I've gotten very busy
on the off season.
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Mainly, because
early in my career...
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I had those rough years
in Buffalo.
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I sort of told myself then
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I would, uh, put my energies
in something that was gonna
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sustain me and last.
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I knew then that I would
have trouble adjusting
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to not being a football player.
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So, I said,
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"Hey, I better start
preparing myself for... for...
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for, you know... now.
(Laughs)
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I wanna tell you that overthe years
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I've heard your applause,
and I appreciated your cheers.
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And I want you to know
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that I already know
it's what I'm gonna miss most.
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Thank you all, very much.
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(Crowd cheering)
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(Birds chirping)
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(Bus approaching)
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Growing up in Brentwood
was really a wonderful experience.
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It's very quiet.
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It's very affluent.
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Very safe.
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Very white.
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Burglaries were very rare.
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Violent crime almost nonexistent.
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You could leave your door unlocked.
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Never have to worry about anything.
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I graduated the academy in 1975.
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And then transferred to west L.A.
1978-79.
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West L.A., the whole division,
Bel Air, Brentwood, all...
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it's loaded with stars.
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And I'd sit back and go,
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"Man, am I really getting paid
for doing this?"
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When I first got there,
O.J. Had just moved
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from around Mulholland
overto Rockingham.
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O.J. Simpson living in Brentwood
was really an anomaly.
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He'd be one of maybe
three black people
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in the entire community.
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Los Angeles is unlike other places.
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If you're a celebrity,
you have no color.
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People enjoy having you
in their neighborhood.
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Especially if you're
a celebrity like O.J.
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Where everyone's husband
worshipped him as a sports hero
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and couldn't wait to shake hands.
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Once I found out he was living
on Rockingham,
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I decided I'd go by there,
you know, and let him know...
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"Hey, you know?
O.J., I'm here."
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This is where I work.
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O.J. Was great.
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He'd always referred to the LAPD
as "the boys." You know?
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"How's crime today?"
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"Hey, Shipp, what's going on
in my area, man?"
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"Is you keeping the peace?"
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You know, stuff like that?
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And I'd be like,
"Hey, man, everything's good."
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70-80 percent of the people
in the city of Los Angeles,
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were thinking LAPD does a greatjob,
we don't have crime here.
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They thought out in the Valley
or west Los Angeles,
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"Hey, man, they're great."
They smile. They wave.
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They're always around
when you need them.
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Well, that wasn't how other parts
of the city were being treated.
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On January 3rd, 1979,
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two members of the Los Angeles
Police Department
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shot and killed Eulia Love
at her home,
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in a dispute over $22.09 utility bill.
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She died on her front lawn
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before the eyes
of her own children.
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There is no single event
that had a more profound impact
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in LAPD history
up to that point and time
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than the shooting
of Eulia May Love.
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This is where Mrs. Eulia Love stood
the day the shooting took place.
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There was an officer here,
an officer there.
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She held a knife in her hand,
there was a scuffle,
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the knife was knocked out
of her hand,
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she reached for it,
and as she threw it,
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the officers opened fire.
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This was a big deal.
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This is a woman
who's had a tough time.
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And she was desperate.
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So, there was a lot of empathy
going out to her
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from the community.
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Once again, we have a member
of the black community...
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dead...
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under circumstances that are
highly questionable at best.
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It has been determined
that the evidence
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does not warrant the filing
of criminal charges.
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This was a justifiable homicide,
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uh, committed by the officers
in their own self-defense.
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As far as LAPD was concerned,
it was just an event.
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And everybody was supposed
to accept it.
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This was on the lips and minds
of everybody in the community.
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The people gonna getjustice,
and it's gonna be in the street.
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It didn't help that you had
a police chief,
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who behaved poorly,
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and, in many ways, irresponsibly.
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And I've commented on the media
squeezing out the last, uh...
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tear of emotion in this situation,
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where they talk about a $22 gas bill.
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It doesn't make any difference,
but it was, uh...
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a $69 gas bill.
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Gates was Gates.
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He's going to be fully supportive
of his officers.
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I guess they don't think I have
any sympathy for anyone,
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other than police officers,
and that's simply not true.
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I have great empathy and sympathy
for Eulia Love and her family.
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Deeply sorry that it happened,
but it did happen.
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I...
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(Clears throat)
Was a big fan of Daryl...
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Francis Gates.
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Gates introduced the SwAT model
of law enforcement,
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introduced the D.A.R.E. Program
to all of law enforcement.
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So he was an innovator.
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But he was also a controversial guy.
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GATES: We have officers out there
doing the job.
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Attempting to make good judgment
based on the information they have,
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protecting themselves
and protecting
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the people of the
city of Los Angeles,
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that we will go to hell for.
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He loved LAPD.
He loved his officers.
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And there were times that I believe
that his love for his officers...
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and the law enforcement mission...
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conflicted.
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O.J. Simpson
and Elizabeth Montgomery
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are two police detectives
who have a problem.
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They're falling in love,
and it's breaking all the rules.
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But you are a married man,
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and your conduct is
supposed to be exemplary.
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Would it make any difference
if I was a white cop?
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It's a bittersweet story
of two people caught between
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their emotions and their actions
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in "A Killing Affair".
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Sunday at 3:00 on channel 9.
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Life for a black person...
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in a way, unfortunately,
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is different than for white people.
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And especially for black people
who attain great success.
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Is there pressure
from your community
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foryou to really walk
the straight and narrow?
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I know that you are currently dating
a white woman.
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I wouldn't be asking this question
if we were living in different times,
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but we aren't,
and there seems to be...
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this sort of dichotomy here.
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How do you answer it?
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Well, I rebel against images
because...
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then, um...
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you know, people tend
to expect things from you.
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I- I think I created an image
by being me.
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When I get into
these arguments with...
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people of the bla-
people of my community,
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the black community,
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I say, "Hey, I...
I've accepted Jesus Christ"
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and, uh, I try to do unto others
as, uh...
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you know, I would have them
do unto me.
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And afterthat, hey,
my life is mine.
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And I... I do what is morally right
and acceptable to me.
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I am not prejudiced in any form.
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Obviously, I got a white girlfriend.
(Laughs)
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I admired his celebrity status.
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We thought he had accomplished
quite a bit.
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To move from an athlete...
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to... a position of celebrity,
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and loved by all the people,
notjust black folk.
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(Gospel singing)
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I invited O.J. Here,
early on in the '80s.
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He didn't come as often
as I thought he should.
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But he did come to church.
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I think he was very in tune with...
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who his mother
wanted him to be.
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She wanted him to be honest,
to be religious.
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Just to rise
above a lot of the things
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that he saw growing up.
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His mother
was a staunch Christian.
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And she had embedded within him
the tenets of Jesus Christ.
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I would talk to him about having
achieved money and fame.
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But all that came from God.
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And there are times
when you should...
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respond to how good God
has been to you.
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Now, some days,
depending on his mood,
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he would agree.
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But he was not out there...
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publically...
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fighting forAfrican-Americans.
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I think each person
who is in the limelight
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has an obligation...
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to make things better
for the last, the lost, the least,
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the left out, and the looked over.
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And I thought he should
have done more.
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If we, as Black people,
do not take on the responsibility...
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to do something for ourselves,
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we really should be scorned
in the eyes of the world.
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In my circles, there were not
a lot of people
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who were preoccupying themselves
with getting to O.J.
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Or believing that O.J.
Could be turned around,
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or someday was gonna
come to his senses
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and embrace all of the things
that have the values that we had,
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in terms of really, really
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doing something demonstrative
for the Black community.
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O.J. Was just one of those things
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that you just kind of dismissed,
"Oh, that brother's a lost cause."
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His voice was mute...
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on any issues that related
to Black people and our salvation,
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police brutality, all of those things.
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He was just a non-entity.
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(Applause)
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I don't know that he felt
that he was sacrificing
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what other people
thought he was.
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But you're sacrificing who you are...
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who you are raised to be.
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How does one sustain that
over that period of time?
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How does one bend one's soul
to that degree of denial?
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(Sirens wailing)
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It's easy to tell
while laid out on the ground,
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while he's bleeding to death.
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Is that what makes you happy?
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(Indistinct chatter)
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Did you hear?
Did you see what was going on?
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Did he see everything happening
in South Central?
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Yeah.
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Did he want to take that
home with him?
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Did he want that to be
who he was?
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Who he identified with?
No.
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He stayed in Brentwood.
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When you live in South L.A.,
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I mean you live here,
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this is where you breath,
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this is where you occupy your space,
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I'm not sure if, you know,
a lot of people even know
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where Brentwood is.
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That's just the reality...
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of Black America
and white America.
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Two totally... separate worlds.
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(Orchestra playing)
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He's somebody who learned
how to live with,
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be totally accepted by a white world.
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(Orchestra continues playing)
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Underneath that,
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he learned all of the indignities
of the Black world.
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Although it's impossible to believe
that he's that brilliant an actor.
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I think he was always kind of on
when he was in a white world,
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and he weren't when he was
in a Black world.
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Which makes him the right soul
for Coalhouse walker.
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He very much wanted to be cast
in E.L. Doctorow's "Ragtime".
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And he worked hard
on trying to get that part.
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He saw the part as being
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something that he could go into
a new dimension as an actor.
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Let's go to your acting career
for a moment.
251
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Why did you want the role
of Coalhouse walkerJr?
252
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Well, first of all, it, um...
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it was the only part thus far
that I've ever actively
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went after and didn't get.
255
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So, I'd consider it my only failure
in film.
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(Laughs)
Thus far.
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(Birds chirping)
258
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Good afternoon.
259
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I wonder if you might be
able to help me.
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Uh...
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Uh... what do you want?
262
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Well, I'm looking for a young woman
of color called Sarah.
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Uh... who are you?
264
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Oh, I'm sorry.
265
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My name is Coalhouse walkerJr.
266
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When I read the book,
I could identify with this guy...
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so much... He was a Black man
in... at a time
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when you were supposed
to know you were Black.
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You were supposed to know
you had a place.
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Would you please
wait around the back?
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I was raised in the sports world
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where you're only, uh,
judged by your abilities...
273
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and, uh, you know,
what you have to give.
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(Playing piano)
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Who is Coalhouse?
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Well, he's a guy
who created himself.
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And destroyed himself...
ultimately.
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(Angry chatter)
279
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He was a guy among other things
who was very prideful and suffered.
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Suffered for his pride.
281
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Mr. Walker, let me
give you some advice.
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You spend the money
on your wedding.
283
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Build yourself a home and a family
where you can find some comfort.
284
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And just forget that some damn
white man caused you offence.
285
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I can understand exactly
what he felt.
286
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When he walked in a room,
287
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he gave no credence
to the fact he was Black
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and he wasn't supposed to say things
or be treated any differently.
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And, uh...
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Uh... that's the way I've tried
to look at my life.
291
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So, I felt I was the right person
forthat role.
292
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I felt that I was today's
Coalhouse walker.
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"Just forget it"?
Is that it?
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I've spent my whole life forgetting.
295
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You're a young man.
You better start learning now.
296
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Learning what?
297
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How to be a nigger?
298
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You know, there was some tragedy
in your life...
299
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in the last 10 years.
You lost a child.
300
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I wanna talk
about how it changed you.
301
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The baby drowned
in a swimming pool.
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On Rockingham, there.
303
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He was away.
304
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You know, he was always gone.
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Four, set!
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I don't know how much
it changed me.
307
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I've always tried to live my life
to the fullest.
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And, uh...
309
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I used to be so busy.
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And I was on the road so much,
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that in a sense it partially
cost me a marriage.
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When I lost my daughter...
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I was gone.
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When my first daughter was born,
I was gone.
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(Crowd cheering)
316
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When you lose a child,
it's very hard.
317
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Three weeks before Aaren drowned,
my son drowned...
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in a pool, that Boys Club
in San Leandro, California.
319
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So, the tragedy affected us both.
320
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It still affects me.
So, I know- how it affects him.
321
00:16:33,425 --> 00:16:35,654
He didn't bring it up,
and we didn't talk much about it.
322
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Hey, O. J!
323
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I think it's the single
most horrible thing in the world.
324
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(Crowd cheering)
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I think what you
learn in the streets,
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00:16:48,474 --> 00:16:50,270
is howto bury things.
327
00:16:51,043 --> 00:16:52,601
And he blamed Marguerite.
328
00:16:59,385 --> 00:17:02,012
He got rid of that memory
when he got rid of that wife.
329
00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:05,482
Hejust compartmentalized it.
330
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And got 'em out.
331
00:17:09,795 --> 00:17:13,458
If anything, I made up my mind
that I would be around.
332
00:17:13,565 --> 00:17:14,395
And, uh...
333
00:17:14,565 --> 00:17:15,964
it's nice to be loved
by everybody.
334
00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:18,431
But there's some people
that love you a little more.
335
00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:19,567
So, I guess if anything,
336
00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:21,797
I... I just want to be
a little more loving
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00:17:21,906 --> 00:17:24,068
and be there a little more
to the people that have, uh,
338
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have chosen to share
their lives with me.
339
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And now by the...
340
00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:32,578
authority committed unto me
341
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as a minister in the church
of Jesus Christ
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and according to the laws
in the State of California,
343
00:17:37,623 --> 00:17:40,023
it gives me great delight,
O.J. And Nicole,
344
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to pronounce you
husband and wife.
345
00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:44,523
(Applause)
346
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("Uptight (Everything's Alright)"
Plays)
347
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We love "Juice" like my brother.
348
00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:00,840
I'm thrilled he's my partner,
and we're just...
349
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,948
totally knocked out
that he finally took the step...
350
00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:06,845
("Jump (For My Love)" plays)
351
00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:08,717
They had a great wedding.
352
00:18:09,988 --> 00:18:11,819
Of course, they had amazing music.
353
00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:14,552
And it was all, you know,
Christal champagne,
354
00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:15,523
all you could drink.
355
00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:17,424
Where are the drugs?
No, I'm just kidding.
356
00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:19,418
It was a great party.
357
00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:24,895
And they made a really strong,
gorgeous couple.
358
00:18:28,507 --> 00:18:30,839
I just felt that they were
the ideal couple.
359
00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,434
Because it seems like to me,
from what I saw,
360
00:18:33,846 --> 00:18:36,371
it seemed like they just
had so much fun all the time.
361
00:18:37,516 --> 00:18:39,108
I'm married!
I don't believe it!
362
00:18:39,418 --> 00:18:40,009
(Laughing)
363
00:18:40,418 --> 00:18:41,851
I'm married!
I really don't believe it.
364
00:18:41,953 --> 00:18:42,818
(Laughing)
365
00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:46,922
Nicole was funny,
and she was fun to be around.
366
00:18:47,592 --> 00:18:48,890
She was a very good friend.
367
00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:50,654
When Nicole came into my life at...
368
00:18:50,929 --> 00:18:53,420
what for any athlete
is very difficult time,
369
00:18:53,532 --> 00:18:54,556
it was at the end of my career,
370
00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:57,494
I was also going through a divorce
at the time and, uh...
371
00:18:57,735 --> 00:19:00,034
All my life, I wanted to be a father.
372
00:19:00,973 --> 00:19:02,668
I never really thought
about being a husband.
373
00:19:03,108 --> 00:19:04,598
And I thought I had given up...
374
00:19:05,476 --> 00:19:07,775
the opportunity
to watch my kids grow
375
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440
until you came into my life
and made this house a home,
376
00:19:10,882 --> 00:19:11,850
brought my kids in.
377
00:19:12,217 --> 00:19:13,844
You brought love into my house.
378
00:19:13,918 --> 00:19:15,476
(Cheering)
379
00:19:19,858 --> 00:19:21,654
He was really proud of her.
380
00:19:22,027 --> 00:19:25,428
And she had definitely taken over.
381
00:19:25,531 --> 00:19:27,726
I mean, she was running the show
at Rockingham.
382
00:19:30,135 --> 00:19:32,159
Rockingham, it was his Graceland.
383
00:19:32,638 --> 00:19:34,697
It was all of their Graceland.
384
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,831
We never said,
"I'll meet you at O.J.'s house."
385
00:19:36,942 --> 00:19:38,603
It was always,
"I'll see you at Rockingham."
386
00:19:39,043 --> 00:19:40,944
It was what brought
all of us together.
387
00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:44,471
It was a special place.
388
00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:46,513
I mean, you never knew
who was gonna be there.
389
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:50,455
He gravitated toward celebrities.
390
00:19:50,956 --> 00:19:51,980
In any field.
391
00:19:52,591 --> 00:19:55,924
And that's the glue
that bonded him to Los Angeles,
392
00:19:56,094 --> 00:19:59,063
and also made Rockingham
that castle.
393
00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:03,100
You'd have the greatest athletes
in the world show up.
394
00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:05,770
The most interesting politicians,
you know?
395
00:20:05,971 --> 00:20:07,063
The entertainment world.
396
00:20:07,672 --> 00:20:09,698
And everybody always had
a wonderful time
397
00:20:09,841 --> 00:20:11,001
because it was "The Juice".
398
00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:15,507
I've always had a large
what I call "family"...
399
00:20:15,647 --> 00:20:16,909
A large circle of friends,
400
00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:19,516
and you need 'em more, I guess,
in your life.
401
00:20:19,751 --> 00:20:22,242
At my house, I mean,
I have to be successful
402
00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,681
to pay for the soft drinks
and the beer
403
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:26,849
that the guys drink
at the house on the weekends.
404
00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:33,123
He flew a flag at Rockingham
every day.
405
00:20:33,864 --> 00:20:36,129
He loved America. He loved
the red, white, and blue.
406
00:20:36,568 --> 00:20:39,264
He loved that feeling that you get,
you know, on the Fourth of July,
407
00:20:39,705 --> 00:20:41,036
and seejets fly over.
408
00:20:41,607 --> 00:20:43,632
During the Olympics,
when he carried the torch.
409
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:45,232
That was a big thing to him.
410
00:20:46,043 --> 00:20:49,810
That was one of the things
we talked about for years after.
411
00:20:50,815 --> 00:20:52,976
How perfect the world was then.
412
00:21:05,772 --> 00:21:07,069
I want to say to, uh...
413
00:21:07,707 --> 00:21:08,902
the Hall of Fame members here,
414
00:21:09,009 --> 00:21:11,068
I mean, as a kid,
I watched these guys
415
00:21:11,178 --> 00:21:13,270
and, well, I must have
done something good
416
00:21:13,580 --> 00:21:15,741
or something right to be here,
and I just want you to know
417
00:21:15,849 --> 00:21:17,645
that I'll never let
you guys down, man.
418
00:21:17,884 --> 00:21:19,680
I'll live up to the honor
of being in this Hall
419
00:21:19,786 --> 00:21:20,774
and being on your team.
420
00:21:20,886 --> 00:21:22,787
(Applause)
421
00:21:23,055 --> 00:21:24,045
Thank you very much.
422
00:21:24,224 --> 00:21:25,816
(Applause)
423
00:21:28,127 --> 00:21:30,289
The most unique aspect
of O.J. Simpson
424
00:21:30,664 --> 00:21:31,961
is that you're one of the few people
425
00:21:32,032 --> 00:21:34,660
who've not only been successful
in athletics,
426
00:21:34,935 --> 00:21:38,200
but that success has really
carried over to life afterfootball.
427
00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:41,640
(Crowd cheering)
428
00:21:42,209 --> 00:21:44,073
Well, it's real exciting for me
to be back here.
429
00:21:44,176 --> 00:21:46,008
You know, on the field
where I had so many thrills,
430
00:21:46,145 --> 00:21:48,808
and to experience these
Buffalo Bills fans,
431
00:21:48,915 --> 00:21:51,109
and, believe me, Howard,
they're in rare form tonight.
432
00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:54,981
Well, he certainly tried
to be a commentator.
433
00:21:55,322 --> 00:21:57,290
Peyton following Matt Suhey.
434
00:21:57,823 --> 00:22:01,624
It's a testament to walk...
walter's conditioning.
435
00:22:01,728 --> 00:22:03,127
This guy works out harder
than anybody in...
436
00:22:05,666 --> 00:22:09,830
He very much was involved
in corporate America
437
00:22:10,002 --> 00:22:11,903
and being on boards.
438
00:22:12,639 --> 00:22:16,131
I think he was trying,
very intelligently,
439
00:22:16,276 --> 00:22:19,712
to parley his fame into wealth.
440
00:22:21,782 --> 00:22:24,716
By the '80s,
O.J. Really was a businessman.
441
00:22:26,819 --> 00:22:29,846
His newfriends
were all super wealthy,
442
00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:32,224
powerful white men.
443
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,058
And I think really the reason
he surrounded himself
444
00:22:36,163 --> 00:22:38,723
with all these big,
successful entrepreneurs
445
00:22:38,832 --> 00:22:40,765
is because he saw himself
as one, too.
446
00:22:43,337 --> 00:22:46,033
I've always been, sort of,
an inquisitive person.
447
00:22:46,372 --> 00:22:48,636
And I have friends who do
a lot of different things.
448
00:22:48,809 --> 00:22:51,607
And I've made it a point to find out
what the people
449
00:22:51,712 --> 00:22:52,679
around me were doing.
450
00:22:55,314 --> 00:22:56,839
He called me a lot.
451
00:22:57,117 --> 00:23:01,178
"Now, Frank, I have this opportunity
for HoneyBaked Hams."
452
00:23:01,921 --> 00:23:05,221
Or "Frank, this friend of mine
is doing some storage things
453
00:23:05,325 --> 00:23:06,622
in California."
454
00:23:07,194 --> 00:23:09,252
I didn't always know those answers.
455
00:23:09,663 --> 00:23:11,153
But I guess I enjoyed the fact
456
00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:13,289
that he trusted me enough
to do that.
457
00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:18,301
I introduced him
to the business world.
458
00:23:23,410 --> 00:23:24,843
I took him places...
459
00:23:25,245 --> 00:23:28,112
where I think very few Black men
had ever been.
460
00:23:29,149 --> 00:23:30,776
The Pine Valley Golf Club.
461
00:23:31,852 --> 00:23:33,911
The number one club in America.
462
00:23:37,157 --> 00:23:38,852
I got him into Arcola.
463
00:23:39,225 --> 00:23:41,126
He was the first black member
of the club.
464
00:23:41,361 --> 00:23:43,795
Oh, yeah, by a long shot.
465
00:23:44,331 --> 00:23:46,697
This one time,
he brought Sidney Poitier.
466
00:23:47,033 --> 00:23:50,901
And, of course, the whole club
was circling around the two of them.
467
00:23:51,837 --> 00:23:55,238
Even the bigots
thought that was terrific.
468
00:23:56,309 --> 00:23:57,139
They loved him.
469
00:23:58,044 --> 00:23:59,408
Because hejust fit in.
470
00:24:01,448 --> 00:24:04,144
He could schmooze around
and get ingratiated,
471
00:24:04,251 --> 00:24:05,149
'cause he was "The Juice".
472
00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:08,947
Street-smart,
this man was an Einstein.
473
00:24:09,790 --> 00:24:14,283
He could cunningly and calculatingly
figure out exactly
474
00:24:14,394 --> 00:24:16,953
what these white people
were thinking about,
475
00:24:17,096 --> 00:24:18,962
but he was also that way
with Black people.
476
00:24:19,399 --> 00:24:23,165
It was almost magnetic,
they were just drawn to it.
477
00:24:23,937 --> 00:24:24,995
And I don't care who was there,
478
00:24:25,205 --> 00:24:26,934
when he got to the room, it was,
"The Juice is here."
479
00:24:28,241 --> 00:24:31,039
Here's the man whose smile
is more dazzling
480
00:24:31,144 --> 00:24:32,805
than all his golden awards.
481
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:36,911
Sportsman, actor,
all around wonderful
482
00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:39,178
Mr. O.J. Simpson!
483
00:24:39,252 --> 00:24:40,913
(Applause)
484
00:24:41,221 --> 00:24:43,712
I always told him he had
delusions of grandeur.
485
00:24:44,224 --> 00:24:46,488
He thought he could do
certain things in business
486
00:24:46,859 --> 00:24:48,191
that he wasn't capable of.
487
00:24:48,328 --> 00:24:49,192
AUDIENCE: Three!
488
00:24:49,763 --> 00:24:52,493
One day he was gonna
run Paramount or 20th Century,
489
00:24:53,066 --> 00:24:54,033
warner Brothers...
490
00:24:54,835 --> 00:24:56,325
Now, I mean, he believed
things like that.
491
00:24:56,903 --> 00:24:59,167
Ladies and gentlemen,
another winning performance
492
00:24:59,238 --> 00:25:01,502
from Mr. O.J. Simpson!
493
00:25:02,843 --> 00:25:04,037
There's something deep-seated...
494
00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:06,202
that I think a lot of people
like myself
495
00:25:06,346 --> 00:25:09,144
have to face up to
about what created
496
00:25:09,249 --> 00:25:10,773
this complex character.
497
00:25:11,017 --> 00:25:13,850
It wasn'tjust him,
it was part society.
498
00:25:13,953 --> 00:25:16,980
(The Naked Gun theme plays)
(Siren wailing)
499
00:25:19,024 --> 00:25:20,356
We were looking for a celebrity...
500
00:25:21,161 --> 00:25:24,426
and I... I don't think we wanted
an all-white cast anymore,
501
00:25:24,997 --> 00:25:27,523
as we did forthe Police Squad
TV show.
502
00:25:29,301 --> 00:25:32,395
This was something that, you know,
kinda looked better...
503
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:33,430
for us.
504
00:25:36,276 --> 00:25:39,837
He was still in the public eye,
but yet he was economical,
505
00:25:39,946 --> 00:25:42,380
because I don't think he was
in demand for movies.
506
00:25:42,582 --> 00:25:44,948
Police! Throw down your guns!
507
00:25:45,218 --> 00:25:47,379
O.J. Was fine for Naked Gun.
508
00:25:48,188 --> 00:25:49,519
There was nobody better.
509
00:25:49,923 --> 00:25:51,049
(Gunfire)
510
00:25:52,959 --> 00:25:53,823
(Groans)
511
00:25:55,495 --> 00:25:57,053
- (Sizzles)
- Ahh!
512
00:25:59,332 --> 00:26:00,230
Oh, no!
513
00:26:02,002 --> 00:26:04,232
Naked Gun surprised me...
514
00:26:04,304 --> 00:26:05,999
(Screams)
515
00:26:06,273 --> 00:26:07,569
How funny he was.
516
00:26:08,308 --> 00:26:09,240
He's a funny man.
517
00:26:09,309 --> 00:26:11,834
I mean, he was always
a very funny man.
518
00:26:12,312 --> 00:26:14,837
And he was always
a selflessly funny man.
519
00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:16,810
- Nordberg!
- Hiya, buddy!
520
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:17,575
Hey!
521
00:26:17,884 --> 00:26:20,148
The doc says I should be on my feet
and as good as new in a week!
522
00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:23,450
- And back on the force.
- Nordberg, that's wonderful!
523
00:26:24,957 --> 00:26:25,856
Whoa!
524
00:26:26,026 --> 00:26:28,823
Oh, Frank! Everyone should
have a friend like you!
525
00:26:28,929 --> 00:26:30,328
(Nordberg screams)
526
00:26:31,363 --> 00:26:33,957
("I'm Into Something Good" plays)
527
00:26:34,234 --> 00:26:36,566
I used to take a lot of cops
overto O.J.'s house,
528
00:26:36,937 --> 00:26:39,564
and I would never tell them
who we were going to meet.
529
00:26:40,439 --> 00:26:43,203
And I just loved looking
at the expression
530
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:45,005
on my partner's face
531
00:26:45,345 --> 00:26:47,836
when they looked and saw
O.J. Opening the door,
532
00:26:48,014 --> 00:26:49,379
and it was just like looking at...
533
00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:51,609
You know, 'cause some of these guys,
you know, macho cops.
534
00:26:51,917 --> 00:26:53,852
"Hey," you know, "I'm LAPD".
535
00:26:54,287 --> 00:26:59,156
And you could see them melt
like little kids around this guy.
536
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,420
Everybody loved O.J. Simpson,
all the cops.
537
00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:06,261
If you asked him for an autograph,
you asked him for whatever,
538
00:27:06,366 --> 00:27:09,028
I mean, he was just really,
like, your best friend.
539
00:27:13,439 --> 00:27:15,340
Now, let's take a look
at today's black culture
540
00:27:15,408 --> 00:27:16,636
in the city of Los Angeles.
541
00:27:17,911 --> 00:27:20,072
The most important point that should
be considered
542
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,238
in a law-enforcement setting
involving blacks
543
00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,510
is the matter of respect.
544
00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,546
Everyone should be treated
in a respectful manner.
545
00:27:28,054 --> 00:27:30,352
Okay, 4-23, you see that,
uh, male black.
546
00:27:30,490 --> 00:27:31,957
He's walking on the north side
of the street there
547
00:27:32,058 --> 00:27:32,888
on your right side.
548
00:27:32,993 --> 00:27:34,426
Slow down. That's one
of the suspects there.
549
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:37,654
(Police radio chatter)
550
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:40,626
People who have been abused
by the police
551
00:27:40,934 --> 00:27:42,367
have no regard forthem.
552
00:27:43,169 --> 00:27:45,330
They don't believe
that the police comes
553
00:27:45,404 --> 00:27:48,169
to protect them,
comes to serve them.
554
00:27:48,675 --> 00:27:50,666
That would be an unfortunate error
in judgment
555
00:27:50,977 --> 00:27:53,537
for you to conclude that all persons
of a particular group
556
00:27:53,947 --> 00:27:57,314
are similarto the few you have
contact while you are working.
557
00:27:57,484 --> 00:27:59,917
We're sorry if, you know,
it's ourjob too.
558
00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:01,578
That... that we've had to do this.
559
00:28:02,188 --> 00:28:03,348
We just can't let you go.
560
00:28:04,357 --> 00:28:05,289
Look how I look.
561
00:28:05,425 --> 00:28:09,384
I'm light, bright, but damn sure
not white. Okay?
562
00:28:09,496 --> 00:28:12,465
But the reality is,
when I'm stopped by the police,
563
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:14,666
you know, they treat me
like a nigger.
564
00:28:15,635 --> 00:28:19,594
Okay, let's roll,
and let's be careful out there.
565
00:28:20,173 --> 00:28:24,075
In 1978, Los Angeles police chief
Daryl Gates apologized
566
00:28:24,210 --> 00:28:27,577
after saying some Hispanic officers
don't advance in the ranks
567
00:28:27,714 --> 00:28:29,305
because they are, quote, "lazy",
568
00:28:29,749 --> 00:28:32,183
and now an NAACP official
569
00:28:32,352 --> 00:28:34,046
is calling a comment
by Chief Gates,
570
00:28:34,154 --> 00:28:36,452
quote, "so horrendous
that it's laughable."
571
00:28:36,756 --> 00:28:39,189
It all started
when he first defended
572
00:28:39,292 --> 00:28:40,987
controversial choke holds.
573
00:28:42,295 --> 00:28:44,421
A number of African-American
suspects had died
574
00:28:44,531 --> 00:28:46,499
after being subjected
to a choke hold,
575
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:49,228
and Gates was asked about it,
and he said the problem was
576
00:28:49,335 --> 00:28:51,234
that they didn't respond the same
as normal people.
577
00:28:52,072 --> 00:28:55,371
The chief needs some time off
to remove his foot from his mouth
578
00:28:56,009 --> 00:28:58,738
and LAPD's choke hold
from the necks of black people.
579
00:28:59,746 --> 00:29:01,475
When I started covering
the police department,
580
00:29:01,747 --> 00:29:04,716
you could feel the residue
of that comment.
581
00:29:05,484 --> 00:29:07,475
In fact, police officers used to
refer to the cars,
582
00:29:07,587 --> 00:29:09,578
which normally people would call
black-and-whites,
583
00:29:09,789 --> 00:29:11,221
they called them
"black-and-normals".
584
00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:14,555
And they would call them that
in front of a reporter, by the way.
585
00:29:15,194 --> 00:29:18,096
So it's safe to say
that it was a sort of easy,
586
00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:20,289
call it racial insensitivity,
call it racism,
587
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:21,367
within the department.
588
00:29:23,236 --> 00:29:27,366
I moved to LA in 1988.
589
00:29:28,341 --> 00:29:31,674
I had a really good friend
who lived there, and she said,
590
00:29:32,078 --> 00:29:35,241
"I have to give you the black man's
guide to survival in LA.
591
00:29:35,615 --> 00:29:38,515
Whatever you do,
don't fuck with LAPD."
592
00:29:38,651 --> 00:29:38,984
(Police dispatch chatter)
593
00:29:38,984 --> 00:29:41,180
(Police dispatch chatter)
594
00:29:42,288 --> 00:29:45,416
In Los Angeles it was a day filled
with tension in many communities,
595
00:29:45,558 --> 00:29:48,026
because of the current wave
of gang warfare.
596
00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:49,594
I feel like a prisoner on the streets.
597
00:29:50,063 --> 00:29:52,429
This city has vowed
to stop gang violence,
598
00:29:52,532 --> 00:29:54,658
but as police hunt
the people responsible,
599
00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:56,692
they must follow a trail of bodies.
600
00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:58,703
We're gonna do
whatever's necessary,
601
00:29:59,238 --> 00:30:01,571
and I told my people
we're gonna wage a war.
602
00:30:06,246 --> 00:30:07,337
Operation Hammer,
603
00:30:07,714 --> 00:30:12,174
that was the belief that we
overwhelm the community
604
00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:16,379
with warrants where we believe
that we had violent criminals,
605
00:30:16,555 --> 00:30:19,524
we could rid the problem.
606
00:30:20,193 --> 00:30:21,524
Ladies, down on the ground!
607
00:30:21,627 --> 00:30:23,528
Put your hands down,
kneel overthere!
608
00:30:23,596 --> 00:30:25,587
Over the past week or so,
Chief Gates,
609
00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:26,687
how many arrests have you made?
610
00:30:27,167 --> 00:30:31,160
Well, in the last month we've made,
uh, about 3,000 arrests.
611
00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:34,240
Uh, just in the last weekend
we made, uh, 1,400.
612
00:30:36,609 --> 00:30:41,603
Youjust have a culture
of officers who felt that,
613
00:30:41,747 --> 00:30:43,841
uh, the only way the world
will survive
614
00:30:44,417 --> 00:30:46,647
is if we neutralize
these individuals
615
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,484
as soon as possible.
616
00:30:48,755 --> 00:30:49,653
Hands down, man.
617
00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:52,285
And in the process of doing that,
618
00:30:52,524 --> 00:30:54,755
they debased and demeaned
the community.
619
00:30:59,698 --> 00:31:00,563
You understand me?
620
00:31:04,136 --> 00:31:06,264
There was no conversation
with the community about
621
00:31:06,506 --> 00:31:08,201
"How should we deal with this?"
622
00:31:08,341 --> 00:31:11,276
It was just hammer,
hammer, hammer.
623
00:31:14,613 --> 00:31:19,210
We have a war.
We are going to be successful.
624
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,582
Whatever it takes,
we will do it.
625
00:31:31,742 --> 00:31:34,540
I'd just put the kids into bed,
and the next thing I know,
626
00:31:34,612 --> 00:31:36,477
they just came in with guns
and they were saying, "Get down",
627
00:31:36,581 --> 00:31:38,172
and they grabbed me
by the back of my head,
628
00:31:38,282 --> 00:31:39,270
and he threw me on the floor,
629
00:31:39,550 --> 00:31:41,711
then they kicked me,
and they hit me on my back,
630
00:31:41,819 --> 00:31:43,149
and they said, "Get down, bitch."
631
00:31:43,487 --> 00:31:45,421
And then the kids were
just hollerin' and screamin'.
632
00:31:45,523 --> 00:31:46,353
And the next thing I know
633
00:31:46,457 --> 00:31:47,719
they were just tearing
the place up.
634
00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:52,559
1988, 39th and Dalton.
635
00:32:00,904 --> 00:32:02,873
Not the best police practices.
636
00:32:03,241 --> 00:32:06,608
Not the best way to manage
a, uh... a warrant service.
637
00:32:07,245 --> 00:32:09,475
Everything was destroyed as police
638
00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:11,672
batted and rammed their way
from room to room
639
00:32:11,782 --> 00:32:13,215
searching for drugs.
640
00:32:13,484 --> 00:32:16,578
Much of what they found were
screaming mothers and children.
641
00:32:17,922 --> 00:32:19,355
This is my bedroom over here,
642
00:32:19,724 --> 00:32:22,488
but they even broke all the mirrors
and stuff out of the bed.
643
00:32:24,862 --> 00:32:27,888
They went in and literally
destroyed the apartment
644
00:32:28,266 --> 00:32:32,430
where supposedly a lot
of drug activity was going on.
645
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:36,670
All this resulted in three quarters
of an ounce of rock cocaine seized
646
00:32:36,774 --> 00:32:38,742
along with six ounces of pot.
647
00:32:40,810 --> 00:32:43,301
You wouldn't go to Beverly Hills
and do that,
648
00:32:43,648 --> 00:32:45,912
even if you thought there was a...
a mafia hangout.
649
00:32:48,219 --> 00:32:49,777
Even if you thought
it was legitimate.
650
00:32:51,255 --> 00:32:54,349
I called my insurance,
and I told them what happened.
651
00:32:54,558 --> 00:32:57,288
He said he had never heard
of the police doing this.
652
00:32:58,895 --> 00:33:03,697
When you don't live in the community,
you don't think of 'em as human.
653
00:33:04,868 --> 00:33:07,201
In my wildest dreams,
would have neverthought
654
00:33:07,305 --> 00:33:10,706
the police of the city of Los Angeles
would treat someone that way.
655
00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:12,375
They started kicking me.
656
00:33:14,345 --> 00:33:15,209
What they tell ya?
657
00:33:15,645 --> 00:33:16,475
They didn't tell me nothin',
658
00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:17,808
they started kicking me
and hitting me
659
00:33:17,915 --> 00:33:18,973
on my ribs and stuff.
660
00:33:20,017 --> 00:33:24,215
Chief Gates, we're proud of you,
we're proud to wearthe 'PD blue.
661
00:33:24,322 --> 00:33:25,550
(Applause)
662
00:33:26,524 --> 00:33:29,220
You'd go to the power
of LAPD back then.
663
00:33:29,727 --> 00:33:32,958
They pretty much could do
what they wanted to do.
664
00:33:48,041 --> 00:33:48,905
Yeah.
665
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,557
Hi, I'm O.J. Simpson,
and this season on HBO,
666
00:33:53,649 --> 00:33:55,878
I'm gonna be high-stepping
right into your living room.
667
00:33:57,351 --> 00:33:58,580
All right, we'll do it again.
668
00:33:59,988 --> 00:34:01,114
When O.J. Was at SC,
669
00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:04,224
in my generation you didn't have
thejerseys you could go buy,
670
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:07,020
so I would take my T-shirts
and write "Simpson",
671
00:34:07,229 --> 00:34:08,696
and I'd put, you know,
672
00:34:08,797 --> 00:34:12,198
like, you know, his number, 32,
and, "Okay, I'm O.J."
673
00:34:12,668 --> 00:34:15,159
Hi, I'm O.J. Simpson,
and this season on HBO,
674
00:34:15,337 --> 00:34:17,237
I'm gonna be high-stepping
right into your living room.
675
00:34:17,672 --> 00:34:19,833
I just thought, "One day,
I wanna meet this guy."
676
00:34:19,974 --> 00:34:21,135
Okay, what's the next one?
677
00:34:22,110 --> 00:34:23,737
And it was through Marcus Allen.
678
00:34:24,045 --> 00:34:26,344
Follow me through Training Camp,
and I guarantee that I'll-
679
00:34:26,648 --> 00:34:28,114
Hey, Juice, I did hear my name.
680
00:34:28,215 --> 00:34:29,842
Hey, man, this is my spot,
Marcus.
681
00:34:29,951 --> 00:34:31,043
Well, I've got the ball now.
682
00:34:31,887 --> 00:34:35,014
I'd been marketing Marcus
for a few years.
683
00:34:35,090 --> 00:34:36,318
And I told him, uh,
684
00:34:36,625 --> 00:34:39,321
"O.J. Ever needs a manager,
let me know."
685
00:34:39,628 --> 00:34:41,686
Training Camp is a time
to show what you can do.
686
00:34:42,331 --> 00:34:44,355
It's a time to show off your skills.
687
00:34:45,801 --> 00:34:47,735
You can prove yourself as a man.
688
00:34:48,670 --> 00:34:49,261
Blah, blah, blah.
689
00:34:49,404 --> 00:34:51,804
I did public appearances,
endorsements,
690
00:34:51,907 --> 00:34:52,770
- TV commercials...
- (Clears throat)
691
00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:54,202
...autograph signings,
692
00:34:54,309 --> 00:34:57,608
basically everything
encompassing his image.
693
00:34:58,112 --> 00:34:59,705
This week in Training Camp...
694
00:35:00,715 --> 00:35:02,239
This week in Training Camp...
695
00:35:03,752 --> 00:35:06,152
This week in Training Camp...
No.
696
00:35:06,721 --> 00:35:10,089
The big thing that has always been
in everybody's head is image.
697
00:35:10,257 --> 00:35:11,246
Image is everything.
698
00:35:12,127 --> 00:35:16,757
Never do anything that is
going to harm his image.
699
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:19,288
Thank you guys.
700
00:35:19,434 --> 00:35:20,230
I remember he had a...
701
00:35:20,402 --> 00:35:23,337
a little hundred-yard dash
with Marcus Allen one day.
702
00:35:24,105 --> 00:35:26,904
And he had bad knees, O.J.,
from all the running.
703
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:29,703
And he beat fuckin' Marcus.
I couldn't believe it.
704
00:35:29,811 --> 00:35:31,038
It's something inside of him.
705
00:35:31,913 --> 00:35:34,143
He wanted to win,
no matter what it took.
706
00:35:35,117 --> 00:35:37,846
Chopping through that swing.
And look out.
707
00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:39,212
(Applause)
708
00:35:39,855 --> 00:35:43,757
When he first started playing golf,
he violated every rule.
709
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:47,721
Okay. He's gotta work
on his balance a little bit.
710
00:35:47,828 --> 00:35:50,059
I played with O.J.
And this otherfriend,
711
00:35:50,165 --> 00:35:51,928
Little Joe Kolkowitz.
712
00:35:53,301 --> 00:35:56,702
O.J. Had the worst form
of anybody on this planet
713
00:35:56,805 --> 00:35:58,067
when he swung a golf club.
714
00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:04,041
One day, on the first tee,
he hits this big drive,
715
00:36:04,813 --> 00:36:07,407
and it hooks into the trees,
heavy stuff.
716
00:36:08,884 --> 00:36:11,409
So we go down the fairway,
we're waiting and waiting
717
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,913
'til Joe goes after him.
718
00:36:13,355 --> 00:36:15,255
All of a sudden,
he finds his ball
719
00:36:15,457 --> 00:36:17,721
after a place where
we probably went over.
720
00:36:20,162 --> 00:36:24,326
He sees the ball sitting on a tee,
and he says to O.J.,
721
00:36:24,733 --> 00:36:25,893
"You can't do this shit, man."
722
00:36:27,269 --> 00:36:28,702
I go, "Juice, come on."
723
00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:32,801
"Do you know what the odds
of the ball landing on a tee
724
00:36:33,175 --> 00:36:34,699
in this area...?"
725
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:38,846
He totally was not going
to confess to the whole thing.
726
00:36:40,215 --> 00:36:41,978
He definitely cheated.
727
00:36:42,517 --> 00:36:43,916
Yes. Yes.
728
00:36:45,787 --> 00:36:48,278
What he'd do,
he had a ball in his pants,
729
00:36:48,857 --> 00:36:50,188
and he'd drop it out and then,
730
00:36:50,292 --> 00:36:51,384
"Hey, you guys,
come on over here."
731
00:36:51,526 --> 00:36:53,016
You know, "Here's my ball."
732
00:36:54,328 --> 00:36:56,194
And he did that to the point
where finally
733
00:36:56,264 --> 00:36:59,131
a bunch of guys got together,
and they hired a caddy.
734
00:37:00,268 --> 00:37:01,962
We called it The Juice Patrol.
735
00:37:03,337 --> 00:37:05,863
And so he'd follow O.J.
Around in another cart,
736
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:07,498
(Laughs)
So he wouldn't cheat.
737
00:37:08,276 --> 00:37:11,336
It was funny. It was, you know,
it was like you couldn't get mad.
738
00:37:11,779 --> 00:37:13,407
It was very hard to get mad at him.
739
00:37:17,152 --> 00:37:19,882
One of the things you pride yourself in
in being a golfer
740
00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:21,114
is you don't cheat,
741
00:37:22,524 --> 00:37:25,118
but people made a joke out of it,
742
00:37:25,227 --> 00:37:28,424
because they so badly
wanted him to understand
743
00:37:28,563 --> 00:37:31,225
the rules and regulations
of this part of society
744
00:37:31,433 --> 00:37:33,765
that didn't tolerate
that type of behavior.
745
00:37:34,102 --> 00:37:36,332
And yet he had
that amazing charm
746
00:37:37,105 --> 00:37:40,165
that you'd somehow let him
get away with certain things.
747
00:37:42,143 --> 00:37:44,111
- (Applause)
- Juice! Juice!
748
00:37:44,546 --> 00:37:46,138
Juice! Juice!
749
00:37:47,816 --> 00:37:48,407
Touchdown!
750
00:37:48,583 --> 00:37:50,413
Wheneveryou went
somewhere with him,
751
00:37:50,552 --> 00:37:52,042
like, doors would just open,
752
00:37:52,153 --> 00:37:55,087
and, you know, people would
pick up checks.
753
00:37:56,258 --> 00:37:57,555
I'd say to him, "Hey, Juice,
754
00:37:58,193 --> 00:38:00,422
how are we going to get in...
somewhere?
755
00:38:00,862 --> 00:38:01,851
We don't have any tickets."
756
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:03,255
He would go like this...
757
00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:07,264
He- That's his ticket.
758
00:38:07,569 --> 00:38:09,901
I think he became entitled.
759
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,275
I certainly felt bedazzled
by O.J. And Nicole and their lifestyle,
760
00:38:17,445 --> 00:38:20,175
and I was very charmed by him,
761
00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:27,183
but I always did sense
that part of it was not sincere.
762
00:38:27,622 --> 00:38:29,852
The other side
is my better side, I think.
763
00:38:29,958 --> 00:38:30,822
Turn the other side for me.
764
00:38:31,092 --> 00:38:33,993
And I did feel that he
took advantage of that.
765
00:38:34,496 --> 00:38:39,957
And if you allowed him to,
I think he would, uh, use you.
766
00:38:40,135 --> 00:38:40,965
All right, we're set here.
767
00:38:42,103 --> 00:38:43,593
My kissable lips, ooh.
768
00:38:44,105 --> 00:38:47,006
While he was married,
his integrity was...
769
00:38:47,142 --> 00:38:51,511
I mean, uh... not as I would have it.
770
00:38:51,645 --> 00:38:52,908
I will put it that way.
771
00:38:55,083 --> 00:38:57,278
He was an incorrigible womanizer.
772
00:38:58,053 --> 00:38:59,212
He just never stopped.
773
00:39:00,889 --> 00:39:04,086
He cornered me a couple times
and tried to make, uh,
774
00:39:04,392 --> 00:39:09,523
sexual, you know, advance and,
you know, I kind of pushed him off.
775
00:39:11,232 --> 00:39:15,532
I think O.J. Felt entitled
to anything O.J. Wanted,
776
00:39:17,038 --> 00:39:21,168
and I think that he really needed
that adulation from other women.
777
00:39:23,378 --> 00:39:26,279
She knew he had affairs,
and it drove her crazy.
778
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,038
Most of their big fights
779
00:39:28,149 --> 00:39:30,117
were about his affairs
with other women.
780
00:39:31,086 --> 00:39:34,988
He went out of his way
to almost rub it in her face.
781
00:39:35,556 --> 00:39:38,526
He'd be in Las Vegas at a show
and be holding hands
782
00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:40,150
with another woman.
783
00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:42,961
She would be watching TV,
and, I mean,
784
00:39:43,331 --> 00:39:44,992
I don't know how she put up with it.
785
00:39:46,401 --> 00:39:48,096
He was pretty darn brazen.
786
00:39:49,203 --> 00:39:51,468
I think he even blamed his affair
with Tawny Kitaen
787
00:39:51,573 --> 00:39:53,632
on the fact that Nicole got fat
when she got pregnant.
788
00:39:54,409 --> 00:39:55,967
And he didn't wanna
have sex with her.
789
00:39:56,177 --> 00:39:59,442
Something as superficial
and cold as that.
790
00:40:00,415 --> 00:40:03,248
�... on the hammock, take a little swing. �
791
00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:06,017
Look! See the trees?
792
00:40:07,422 --> 00:40:10,949
I told him, "Man, you're breaking
the laws of God,
793
00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:15,392
and nobody does it with immunity.
794
00:40:16,531 --> 00:40:18,123
You're gonna pay for it, man.
795
00:40:20,066 --> 00:40:24,127
One day everybody's gonna know
everything that you've done, man."
796
00:40:52,332 --> 00:40:54,425
(Police siren)
797
00:40:56,937 --> 00:40:58,928
When you hear a call come out,
798
00:40:59,104 --> 00:41:02,597
and the 911 operator puts out
on the call
799
00:41:03,076 --> 00:41:06,876
that she can hear the woman
being beaten in the background,
800
00:41:07,881 --> 00:41:09,314
that... that's serious.
801
00:41:12,952 --> 00:41:14,318
When I got there,
802
00:41:14,621 --> 00:41:19,217
I saw an electronic buzzer system,
so I pushed the button.
803
00:41:20,327 --> 00:41:24,024
Almost simultaneously,
a tall, female blonde
804
00:41:24,130 --> 00:41:26,598
came running out of the bushes.
805
00:41:27,634 --> 00:41:31,434
She's wearing nothin'
but a bra and sweatpants,
806
00:41:31,905 --> 00:41:32,872
covered in mud.
807
00:41:33,106 --> 00:41:34,004
And she kept yelling,
808
00:41:34,107 --> 00:41:35,506
"He's gonna kill me!
He's gonna kill me!"
809
00:41:37,577 --> 00:41:39,272
When that gate opened,
she ran up
810
00:41:39,379 --> 00:41:42,542
and just put her arms around me
and clasped on me.
811
00:41:44,517 --> 00:41:46,610
She was so wet and cold
812
00:41:46,987 --> 00:41:49,353
that you could feel her
shivering to her bone.
813
00:41:50,523 --> 00:41:52,457
And I said,
"well, who's gonna kill you?"
814
00:41:53,126 --> 00:41:54,150
She said, "O.J."
815
00:41:55,394 --> 00:41:58,330
She says, "You guys have been
up here eight times before.
816
00:41:58,565 --> 00:42:01,260
All you do is talk to him,
you never do anything.
817
00:42:01,601 --> 00:42:03,193
He's gonna kill me."
818
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:06,166
Her face had already swollen.
819
00:42:06,539 --> 00:42:08,403
She actually had an imprint
820
00:42:08,575 --> 00:42:10,941
on one side of herface
and her forehead.
821
00:42:11,478 --> 00:42:14,208
So I said, "Do you want him
arrested for beating you?"
822
00:42:14,347 --> 00:42:15,371
She said, "Yes."
823
00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:21,018
About that time, O.J. Simpson
came right up to the fence,
824
00:42:21,988 --> 00:42:23,455
and he started yelling,
825
00:42:24,257 --> 00:42:26,282
"I don't want her in my bed anymore.
826
00:42:26,493 --> 00:42:27,391
I got two other women.
827
00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:29,189
I don't want her in my bed
anymore."
828
00:42:30,997 --> 00:42:33,465
He's got a receding hairline,
so you can see his forehead,
829
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,695
and this vein was popping out,
pulsating,
830
00:42:38,037 --> 00:42:40,028
and it was right up his forehead.
831
00:42:41,441 --> 00:42:45,104
I told him, "I'm placing you
under arrest for beating your wife.
832
00:42:45,311 --> 00:42:48,678
You're gonna have to go get dressed
so I can take you tojail."
833
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:54,409
He turned around and went back
in the house to get dressed.
834
00:42:55,755 --> 00:43:00,715
Suddenly I saw a Bentley pull out
of the other driveway.
835
00:43:01,061 --> 00:43:01,686
(Cartires screech)
836
00:43:01,995 --> 00:43:04,327
So I said, "Back up.
He's trying to get away in a car."
837
00:43:06,232 --> 00:43:10,430
And we backed out of the driveway,
and I never caught him with that car.
838
00:43:10,503 --> 00:43:11,993
I never found him.
839
00:43:15,308 --> 00:43:16,366
(Marching band music)
840
00:43:16,476 --> 00:43:19,001
Downtown Los Angeles,
little ocean haze.
841
00:43:19,144 --> 00:43:22,546
There is no smog today,
everybody's takin'it easy.
842
00:43:22,649 --> 00:43:26,244
Here at the 75th Rose Bowl game,
score 7-3.
843
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:30,280
1989, Trojans were in the Rose Bowl.
844
00:43:30,423 --> 00:43:33,153
I was privileged enough to...
to have sideline passes
845
00:43:33,426 --> 00:43:36,519
and that was actually the first time
I'd ever been to a Rose Bowl game
846
00:43:36,629 --> 00:43:38,995
on the sidelines, 'cause
when I was a walk-on at USC,
847
00:43:39,099 --> 00:43:39,724
I never got to play.
848
00:43:40,033 --> 00:43:41,762
(Crowd cheering)
849
00:43:42,202 --> 00:43:44,500
I was just having
the time of my life.
850
00:43:45,338 --> 00:43:47,602
All of a sudden, one of O.J.'s really,
really good friends
851
00:43:48,108 --> 00:43:49,473
came up and tapped me
on the shoulder.
852
00:43:49,776 --> 00:43:53,439
He said, "Hey, man, uh, O.J.
Had a problem last night, you know,
853
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:57,479
and, uh, he really needs
to talk to you."
854
00:43:57,617 --> 00:43:59,107
(Crowd cheers)
855
00:43:59,318 --> 00:44:00,411
(Referee whistle blows)
856
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:01,384
It's over.
857
00:44:01,488 --> 00:44:03,115
(Crowd cheers)
858
00:44:05,358 --> 00:44:08,486
When I called, he said,
"Hey, man, I had a little riff.
859
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:10,193
Boys had to come out.
860
00:44:10,830 --> 00:44:12,525
Right now I feel like I'm a fugitive."
861
00:44:13,566 --> 00:44:15,760
And he explained to me
that they had an argument,
862
00:44:16,568 --> 00:44:18,537
and she got real physical with him,
863
00:44:18,738 --> 00:44:21,468
and he had to defend himself
and grab her and hold her...
864
00:44:21,808 --> 00:44:24,037
The way he- he told me the story,
I'm thinkin',
865
00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:27,338
"Hey, man, no big deal. You know?
Um, you didn't hit her.
866
00:44:27,447 --> 00:44:28,674
You know, you said
she was aggressive,
867
00:44:28,815 --> 00:44:30,406
and you were trying to
stop herfrom...
868
00:44:30,583 --> 00:44:34,245
from beating you up.
Um, no big deal."
869
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:37,412
And... And when I got to work
the next morning, it was a big deal.
870
00:44:42,361 --> 00:44:45,627
I got a call from downstairs,
"Someone wants to talk to you,"
871
00:44:46,398 --> 00:44:48,526
and there's Nicole in the lobby.
872
00:44:49,468 --> 00:44:50,493
"Hey, Nicole, what's up?"
873
00:44:50,637 --> 00:44:52,537
You know, she... she goes,
"Did you hear about what happened?"
874
00:44:52,604 --> 00:44:54,266
I said, "Yeah, I did hear
what happened."
875
00:44:54,673 --> 00:44:56,642
And she told me
it wasn't the first time.
876
00:44:58,477 --> 00:45:00,138
Showed me the pictures
from the past...
877
00:45:00,446 --> 00:45:02,209
...beatings,
and I looked at those pictures
878
00:45:02,882 --> 00:45:05,373
and my heartjust... just, like, dropped.
879
00:45:06,585 --> 00:45:08,713
I was like, "Man, this guy
is a typical batterer."
880
00:45:11,290 --> 00:45:15,852
The '89 thing, the way I saw him
act in Hawaii that Christmas
881
00:45:16,296 --> 00:45:17,388
convinced me that, um,
882
00:45:17,664 --> 00:45:20,224
boy, there was something really,
really wrong.
883
00:45:22,902 --> 00:45:27,305
He freaked out about Nicole
sitting their little son
884
00:45:27,574 --> 00:45:31,635
next to a homosexual
in a restaurant they were at.
885
00:45:32,611 --> 00:45:33,704
I mean, hejust freaked.
886
00:45:35,181 --> 00:45:37,478
And they fought
all the way back.
887
00:45:37,916 --> 00:45:42,786
The next day I got a call that, uh,
he freaked out on New Year's Eve,
888
00:45:42,922 --> 00:45:43,718
and he beat the hell out of her.
889
00:45:45,691 --> 00:45:48,525
Nicole knew that I used to
teach domestic violence
890
00:45:48,827 --> 00:45:49,760
for the Los Angeles
Police Department.
891
00:45:50,729 --> 00:45:52,288
And she asked me,
892
00:45:53,298 --> 00:45:54,493
"O.J.'s dad is gay.
893
00:45:55,434 --> 00:45:59,370
Do you think this is
why he beats me?"
894
00:46:01,341 --> 00:46:04,673
And I was like, "l... I, you know,
I don't know,
895
00:46:05,812 --> 00:46:08,178
but a lot of that stuff has to do
with their self-esteem."
896
00:46:12,951 --> 00:46:14,316
O.J. Simpson that night
897
00:46:15,254 --> 00:46:17,519
definitely got
preferential treatment.
898
00:46:18,625 --> 00:46:22,618
Had that have been anybody else,
you or me, we'd have gone tojail.
899
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:27,427
I did place him under arrest.
900
00:46:28,234 --> 00:46:30,326
I tried my best,
but couldn't get to him.
901
00:46:31,704 --> 00:46:33,695
But when you tell someone
they're under arrest,
902
00:46:34,374 --> 00:46:35,739
they are under arrest.
903
00:46:36,643 --> 00:46:39,202
If he flees,
then, he's a fleeing felon.
904
00:46:41,513 --> 00:46:45,950
But the unique thing about O.J. Is
it was O.J.
905
00:46:46,886 --> 00:46:50,617
Where can he go?
Where can he hide?
906
00:46:51,991 --> 00:46:53,458
Where can he run to...
907
00:46:54,693 --> 00:46:56,558
on the face of this earth?
908
00:46:57,964 --> 00:46:59,795
Where can he go?
909
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,799
(Police dispatch chatter)
910
00:47:14,379 --> 00:47:17,508
(Police sirens)
911
00:47:23,556 --> 00:47:25,352
(Helicopter blades)
912
00:47:43,977 --> 00:47:45,706
Nowthe story that might never
have surfaced
913
00:47:45,878 --> 00:47:47,970
if someone hadn't picked up
his home video camera.
914
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:53,316
I can rememberthat moment
like it was yesterday.
915
00:47:54,353 --> 00:47:56,754
I was laying in my bed,
and I called out to my wife.
916
00:47:56,856 --> 00:47:59,324
I said, "You gotta come see,
you can't believe this."
917
00:48:00,893 --> 00:48:04,727
How will the police justify this one?
918
00:48:05,598 --> 00:48:08,396
How will they get out of this one?
919
00:48:09,835 --> 00:48:12,771
Police say the man,
25-year-old Rodney King,
920
00:48:12,905 --> 00:48:16,705
was involved in a high-speed chase,
wanted as a parole violator.
921
00:48:17,709 --> 00:48:19,836
The police department says
there will be no comment
922
00:48:19,978 --> 00:48:21,809
until its investigation is complete.
923
00:48:21,914 --> 00:48:24,382
As yet, no charges have been filed.
924
00:48:26,052 --> 00:48:30,011
This is what happens when you
take away a tool
925
00:48:30,389 --> 00:48:33,359
that would have ended this
in 10 seconds.
926
00:48:33,583 --> 00:48:34,550
Choke hold.
927
00:48:39,588 --> 00:48:43,218
Look how this thing looks.
You can't justify that.
928
00:48:47,462 --> 00:48:49,327
I was the captain at watts
at the time.
929
00:48:49,432 --> 00:48:50,489
Atten-hut.
930
00:48:50,667 --> 00:48:52,601
The next day, we had a training day.
931
00:48:53,236 --> 00:48:57,229
I remember standing in front
of all of the troops, and I told them,
932
00:48:58,308 --> 00:49:02,404
"The LAPD will never be
the same again."
933
00:49:05,247 --> 00:49:06,578
Oh, it was devastating,
934
00:49:06,683 --> 00:49:09,652
because there's gonna be a belief
that if these guys do it,
935
00:49:09,819 --> 00:49:10,877
everybody else does it.
936
00:49:11,186 --> 00:49:13,586
Those guys driving down the street
in the black-and-white do that.
937
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:15,585
And that's just not the case.
938
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,653
But that visual image,
folks rememberthat,
939
00:49:19,762 --> 00:49:21,490
and they will take it
to their grave.
940
00:49:21,898 --> 00:49:24,298
That home video showing
a black motorist
941
00:49:24,399 --> 00:49:26,425
being beaten by a white
Los Angeles policeman
942
00:49:26,569 --> 00:49:29,129
has triggered investigations
now by the FBI,
943
00:49:29,238 --> 00:49:30,263
the district attorney there,
944
00:49:30,606 --> 00:49:31,766
and the police department itself.
945
00:49:32,175 --> 00:49:36,441
The media didn't give LAPD
a break on this one.
946
00:49:36,945 --> 00:49:40,676
They showed that tape
over and over and over.
947
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:42,815
I mean, it wasn'tjust in Los Angeles.
948
00:49:42,952 --> 00:49:44,543
It was all overthe world.
949
00:49:44,754 --> 00:49:47,655
(French-language newscast)
950
00:49:47,824 --> 00:49:49,724
I was embarrassed
for Los Angeles.
951
00:49:51,861 --> 00:49:55,489
The real significance wasn't
what you saw on the tape.
952
00:49:55,932 --> 00:49:58,195
That tape became exhibit one
953
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,360
for every mishandled abuse
and excessive force incident
954
00:50:02,738 --> 00:50:04,639
that anyone had
ever experienced.
955
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:06,230
This is an aberration.
956
00:50:06,476 --> 00:50:08,341
This is something that should
never have happened.
957
00:50:08,645 --> 00:50:11,374
We had in place
all of the procedures
958
00:50:11,814 --> 00:50:13,542
that would keep it
from happening.
959
00:50:13,983 --> 00:50:16,712
Those procedures fell down
because of human error.
960
00:50:17,319 --> 00:50:19,185
And we will deal with that
human error.
961
00:50:19,889 --> 00:50:23,655
I believe things like that
do happen from time to time,
962
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,291
but they are anomalies.
963
00:50:25,461 --> 00:50:27,792
That's not what happens
all day, every day
964
00:50:27,963 --> 00:50:29,932
in the thousands of contacts
that occur.
965
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:32,327
I don't believe it.
I'll never believe it.
966
00:50:32,668 --> 00:50:35,661
Daryl Gates started out saying
it was an aberration.
967
00:50:37,273 --> 00:50:41,436
And we say, "Darryl,
don't you remember Eulia Love?"
968
00:50:41,611 --> 00:50:43,442
(Cheering)
969
00:50:43,646 --> 00:50:46,739
I think the thing that's most shocking
about the King incident
970
00:50:46,882 --> 00:50:48,510
isn't even what happens to King.
971
00:50:49,685 --> 00:50:51,483
It's the fact that all those officers
972
00:50:51,621 --> 00:50:53,680
go back to their police divisions
that night,
973
00:50:54,356 --> 00:50:56,881
none of them knowing
that a video tape exists.
974
00:50:57,260 --> 00:50:58,693
They all file their reports
975
00:50:59,395 --> 00:51:02,228
and not one of 'em says,
in any document,
976
00:51:02,665 --> 00:51:04,394
that they saw anything go wrong.
977
00:51:05,568 --> 00:51:08,400
That suggests to me
a culture in which
978
00:51:08,638 --> 00:51:11,368
this wasn't perceived
as something wrong.
979
00:51:13,042 --> 00:51:14,475
In Los Angeles today,
980
00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:17,443
four men were arrested,
photographed, and fingerprinted.
981
00:51:17,613 --> 00:51:18,511
They were policemen,
982
00:51:18,747 --> 00:51:20,648
charged with assault
with a deadly weapon
983
00:51:20,749 --> 00:51:22,718
in the beating of a black motorist.
984
00:51:22,852 --> 00:51:23,876
Named in the indictment:
985
00:51:24,020 --> 00:51:26,352
Officers Laurence Powell,
Ted Briseno
986
00:51:26,488 --> 00:51:27,353
and Timothy wind
987
00:51:27,557 --> 00:51:30,024
and their supervising sergeant,
Stacey Koon.
988
00:51:30,493 --> 00:51:33,792
The FBI will investigate
whetherthe federal civil rights
989
00:51:33,962 --> 00:51:36,363
of the victim, Rodney King,
have been violated.
990
00:51:37,333 --> 00:51:39,426
A story is not a story
unless there's conflict.
991
00:51:39,935 --> 00:51:42,301
Do you really wanna say
this is a felon
992
00:51:42,405 --> 00:51:44,338
speeding on the freeway
underthe influence
993
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,305
of a hallucinogenic and or alcohol,
994
00:51:46,673 --> 00:51:48,368
or do you wanna say
he's a "motorist",
995
00:51:48,511 --> 00:51:50,740
and he was stopped
by these racist cops?
996
00:51:50,813 --> 00:51:51,905
How do you knowthese cops
are racist?
997
00:51:52,915 --> 00:51:54,381
They are not racist.
998
00:51:55,417 --> 00:51:58,046
The furor is only growing
with the revelations
999
00:51:58,354 --> 00:52:01,414
of police communications over
their in-car computer terminals.
1000
00:52:01,724 --> 00:52:04,022
An earlier message
from the Powell-Wind unit
1001
00:52:04,327 --> 00:52:07,626
referred to a previous call as
"'right out of Gorillas in the Mist."
1002
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:11,281
Has there been times
that we've been brutal,
1003
00:52:11,702 --> 00:52:13,431
uh, used excessive force?
1004
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:14,660
Absolutely.
1005
00:52:16,473 --> 00:52:19,840
The racist part is really tough
to choke down for me.
1006
00:52:20,578 --> 00:52:23,445
During my 38 years there,
I didn't see it.
1007
00:52:23,813 --> 00:52:27,214
Civil rights organizations say
the Los Angeles police department
1008
00:52:27,318 --> 00:52:29,650
has a history of brutality
and misconduct
1009
00:52:29,754 --> 00:52:31,654
that goes back
a quarter of a century,
1010
00:52:32,322 --> 00:52:34,688
including one incident
that sparked the watts riots.
1011
00:52:35,226 --> 00:52:39,629
We want effective law-enforcement
in the city of Los Angeles.
1012
00:52:39,864 --> 00:52:42,264
You take an oath
to protect and serve,
1013
00:52:42,433 --> 00:52:43,730
but when you come
to the black community,
1014
00:52:43,901 --> 00:52:45,835
all you do is abuse!
1015
00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:47,935
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1016
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,572
You can only take so many shots
publicly before your reputation
1017
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:57,510
is so soiled that it can be
manipulated over and over again.
1018
00:52:58,883 --> 00:53:02,444
That will always be included
in the argument to demonstrate
1019
00:53:02,687 --> 00:53:06,817
how brutal and insensitive
and racist the LAPD is.
1020
00:53:07,692 --> 00:53:09,853
It's like you can't put Humpty Dumpty
back together again.
1021
00:53:11,262 --> 00:53:14,856
We're outraged, we're disgusted,
and let's close this one with,
1022
00:53:15,032 --> 00:53:20,367
No more! No more! No more!
No more! No more! No more!
1023
00:53:42,889 --> 00:53:49,054
It comes to Latasha Harlins,
coming to the counter
1024
00:53:49,763 --> 00:53:52,630
with what she was going to buy
in one hand,
1025
00:53:52,799 --> 00:53:54,766
money in the other.
1026
00:53:58,070 --> 00:53:59,697
Altercation,
1027
00:54:04,143 --> 00:54:05,873
walks away,
1028
00:54:07,179 --> 00:54:10,205
is shot in the back of the head.
1029
00:54:14,521 --> 00:54:16,716
Latasha Harlins really hit home,
1030
00:54:16,856 --> 00:54:19,086
because my daughter was
the same age as Latasha Harlins.
1031
00:54:22,896 --> 00:54:25,990
Rodney King didn't touch me
as much as Latasha Harlins,
1032
00:54:26,132 --> 00:54:27,793
because this girl was killed.
1033
00:54:30,003 --> 00:54:33,495
She was a little teenage girl
buying some orangejuice.
1034
00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:34,604
Mm-mm.
1035
00:54:36,642 --> 00:54:38,633
That- that could've been my child.
1036
00:54:39,145 --> 00:54:40,737
Up until Saturday morning,
1037
00:54:40,847 --> 00:54:43,873
Soon Ja Du was a Korean grocer
in Los Angeles.
1038
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:45,845
Now she's an alleged criminal,
1039
00:54:45,952 --> 00:54:48,614
facing a first-degree
murder charge.
1040
00:54:48,755 --> 00:54:51,883
Well, at this time, she's looking
at a maximum of 30 years to life.
1041
00:54:52,292 --> 00:54:55,089
According to witnesses
and a security camera video tape,
1042
00:54:55,328 --> 00:54:57,625
Harlins never tried to steal thejuice.
1043
00:54:57,998 --> 00:55:01,263
Instead, investigators say Du
angrily confronted the girl
1044
00:55:01,701 --> 00:55:04,134
and then shot her
with a .38 caliber handgun.
1045
00:55:04,337 --> 00:55:07,636
I hope and I knowthat justice
will serve itself,
1046
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:09,675
and she will get what she deserved.
1047
00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:15,804
Soon Ja Du had no respect
forthat young woman.
1048
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:20,647
The way they beat Rodney King,
okay?
1049
00:55:20,854 --> 00:55:22,879
Her shooting Latasha Harlins...
1050
00:55:22,989 --> 00:55:27,619
It's the same people, okay,
that are being victimized.
1051
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:33,932
The recommendation of the people
was maximum state prison.
1052
00:55:34,167 --> 00:55:36,999
I think that the death
of Latasha deserved that.
1053
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:39,570
The court decided otherwise.
1054
00:55:39,739 --> 00:55:42,105
Mrs. Du is placed on formal probation
1055
00:55:42,208 --> 00:55:45,234
for five years on the following
terms and conditions.
1056
00:55:45,378 --> 00:55:49,177
Mrs. Du is to perform 400 hours
of community service.
1057
00:55:50,016 --> 00:55:51,141
Get the cameras off!
1058
00:55:52,886 --> 00:55:54,717
No cameras! Get the camera
out of my face!
1059
00:55:55,255 --> 00:55:57,052
The judge called for peace.
She said...
1060
00:55:57,157 --> 00:55:59,682
How can you have peace when...?
When this is going on?
1061
00:56:00,259 --> 00:56:03,956
What? This woman killed a child.
1062
00:56:04,130 --> 00:56:06,758
She killed a child
and not getting any jail time?
1063
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,732
I... I... I haven't gotten overthat,
really.
1064
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:18,901
Wake up, Los Angeles! Wake up!
Let not her blood be in vain!
1065
00:56:19,044 --> 00:56:21,945
Latasha was killed,
ourfamily was killed.
1066
00:56:22,048 --> 00:56:22,878
- Yeah!
- That's right!
1067
00:56:23,049 --> 00:56:26,780
Racism is not the Korean killing her,
racism is the courts system...
1068
00:56:26,886 --> 00:56:28,717
- That's right!
...that allows her to kill her.
1069
00:56:29,789 --> 00:56:30,881
Karlin must go!
Karlin must go!
1070
00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:33,959
Chanting "Karlin must go",
angry protestors
1071
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:37,029
stormed through security checkpoints
at the courthouse in Compton.
1072
00:56:37,163 --> 00:56:38,994
(Overlapping angry yelling)
1073
00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:43,166
They are still outraged over
Judge Joyce Karlin's decision
1074
00:56:43,302 --> 00:56:46,101
not to send Latasha Harlins'
killer to jail.
1075
00:56:46,705 --> 00:56:49,766
They are willing to go tojail
to get their point across.
1076
00:56:50,343 --> 00:56:52,902
In the community, you go tojail
for selling crack
1077
00:56:53,045 --> 00:56:54,706
for 20 years, 20 and 30 years.
1078
00:56:54,813 --> 00:56:58,011
How you gonna kill somebody
and get probation?
1079
00:56:59,052 --> 00:57:00,383
What kind of sense
does that make?
1080
00:57:01,186 --> 00:57:02,882
What kind ofjustice is that?
1081
00:57:06,860 --> 00:57:08,293
39th and Dalton,
1082
00:57:11,297 --> 00:57:12,991
then Rodney King,
1083
00:57:14,033 --> 00:57:16,695
then Latasha Harlins.
1084
00:57:17,803 --> 00:57:21,330
Three defining issues
in different ways,
1085
00:57:21,908 --> 00:57:23,933
but the tension
in the environment
1086
00:57:24,077 --> 00:57:29,174
and the disrespect shown
to Black life was the theme.
1087
00:57:43,499 --> 00:57:45,729
ESPN presents...
1088
00:57:48,237 --> 00:57:49,396
Sports Look
1089
00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:52,837
with the personalities
and cover stories
1090
00:57:53,142 --> 00:57:55,337
making news in the world of sport.
1091
00:57:56,479 --> 00:57:59,312
Now, here's your host,
Roy Firestone.
1092
00:57:59,882 --> 00:58:02,510
When you live your life
so publicly and, uh,
1093
00:58:02,717 --> 00:58:05,551
really almost with such ease,
1094
00:58:05,787 --> 00:58:08,552
uh, it's hard to believe that there
could ever be any rocky time.
1095
00:58:08,758 --> 00:58:10,248
The reason I'm bringing that
to light now
1096
00:58:10,359 --> 00:58:11,689
is not to dredge it up again,
1097
00:58:12,161 --> 00:58:14,595
but more or less talk
about how things can get distorted
1098
00:58:14,796 --> 00:58:17,425
to such a point that you are
portrayed as the bad guy.
1099
00:58:17,767 --> 00:58:19,632
Um, New Year's Eve,
1100
00:58:20,169 --> 00:58:21,466
you had a little bit
too much to drink.
1101
00:58:21,737 --> 00:58:22,704
- There was some-
- Uh, you know, that's...
1102
00:58:22,805 --> 00:58:23,771
You know, actually,
1103
00:58:23,905 --> 00:58:25,737
you know, my wife and I
have been togetherfor 12 years
1104
00:58:26,475 --> 00:58:28,136
and it really...
when I look at it,
1105
00:58:28,243 --> 00:58:29,609
it wasn't really
that big of a fight,
1106
00:58:29,712 --> 00:58:32,613
it's just that because of, uh,
it being New Year's Eve...
1107
00:58:32,748 --> 00:58:33,737
Right.
1108
00:58:33,883 --> 00:58:34,679
- Because it's three o'clock
in the mornin',
1109
00:58:34,784 --> 00:58:36,149
just finished a big party,
1110
00:58:36,452 --> 00:58:39,478
uh, it got a little verb...
it... it got a little loud.
1111
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:40,419
(Laughs)
1112
00:58:40,555 --> 00:58:42,615
Here's... here's my point,
the point I'm making, Juice...
1113
00:58:42,725 --> 00:58:43,589
Yeah.
1114
00:58:43,693 --> 00:58:45,160
- Is that it got to such a point
1115
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,557
that you were portrayed in the press
for a while there like a wife beater.
1116
00:58:48,631 --> 00:58:50,359
Yeah, well, and that bothered me.
1117
00:58:50,466 --> 00:58:52,331
Obviously, it bothered
my whole family.
1118
00:58:52,467 --> 00:58:54,493
I mean, uh, you know,
the day after this was over,
1119
00:58:54,636 --> 00:58:55,604
you know, we looked at, say-
1120
00:58:55,705 --> 00:58:56,671
you know, we had a fight,
1121
00:58:56,805 --> 00:58:57,864
we were both guilty.
1122
00:58:58,173 --> 00:59:00,642
No one was hurt, was no big deal,
and we got on with our life.
1123
00:59:05,214 --> 00:59:08,671
I had always suspected
that they had violent fights.
1124
00:59:10,219 --> 00:59:14,553
The day of my wedding
I found out that Nicole and O.J.
1125
00:59:14,657 --> 00:59:15,624
Were not going to be attending...
1126
00:59:17,325 --> 00:59:18,588
and he said it was because
1127
00:59:18,661 --> 00:59:22,653
Nicole was having very bad cramps
from her period.
1128
00:59:24,267 --> 00:59:25,564
I thought it was a lie.
1129
00:59:28,204 --> 00:59:31,640
It was always Nicole's fault.
I mean, even the '89 thing.
1130
00:59:32,207 --> 00:59:34,198
When I cornered him sitting
on a golf cart,
1131
00:59:34,342 --> 00:59:35,605
I listened for nine holes,
1132
00:59:35,778 --> 00:59:38,338
everything that she did wrong
to create what had happened.
1133
00:59:38,546 --> 00:59:41,277
"You think that she's bruised up,
you should have seen my face,"
1134
00:59:41,417 --> 00:59:44,180
you know, the... the whole pity thing
that he always went through.
1135
00:59:45,688 --> 00:59:49,180
I think anybody that knew them...
it was over.
1136
00:59:49,759 --> 00:59:53,286
Then it was a matter of when
would Nicole have the fortitude
1137
00:59:53,462 --> 00:59:55,691
to just completely walk away.
1138
00:59:59,702 --> 01:00:00,828
She said, "Ron,
1139
01:00:01,537 --> 01:00:03,834
if it wasn't for the kids,
I'd be out of here."
1140
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,771
And then I get a call from O.J.
1141
01:00:07,243 --> 01:00:08,972
He says, "You gotta help me here.
1142
01:00:09,278 --> 01:00:11,246
You... you gotta help
save this marriage.
1143
01:00:11,614 --> 01:00:14,878
You gotta talk to Nicole,
tell her I'll never do it again."
1144
01:00:16,252 --> 01:00:19,448
I saw her start to soften,
because by this time,
1145
01:00:19,588 --> 01:00:22,556
O.J. Is just doing everything
with the kids.
1146
01:00:22,925 --> 01:00:24,323
And they're just having a great time,
1147
01:00:24,427 --> 01:00:25,792
he's taking them here,
he's taking them there.
1148
01:00:25,928 --> 01:00:27,293
She's looking at me goin',
1149
01:00:27,395 --> 01:00:31,730
"Hey, Ron, he's really changing.
He's really changing."
1150
01:00:34,804 --> 01:00:38,432
When it turned toward
the domestic violence,
1151
01:00:38,874 --> 01:00:41,707
that was one
that nobody wanted to hear.
1152
01:00:42,545 --> 01:00:43,705
The police didn't wanna hear it,
1153
01:00:43,813 --> 01:00:45,780
most certainly Hertz
didn't wanna hear it,
1154
01:00:46,382 --> 01:00:47,644
NBC didn't wanna hear it.
1155
01:00:47,816 --> 01:00:49,716
Nobody wanted to deal with that.
1156
01:00:49,785 --> 01:00:51,877
Back to you, Bob.
(Laughing)
1157
01:00:54,757 --> 01:00:56,725
When we heard that,
I thought that was it.
1158
01:00:56,825 --> 01:00:57,814
That's... it's over.
1159
01:00:59,795 --> 01:01:03,628
You know who called me to tell me
that it was a false arrest?
1160
01:01:04,633 --> 01:01:05,657
Nicole.
1161
01:01:07,703 --> 01:01:09,728
Nicole called me and said,
1162
01:01:09,805 --> 01:01:12,000
"Frank, it didn't happen that way."
1163
01:01:13,475 --> 01:01:16,842
They'd had a terrible argument,
but he wasn't abusive.
1164
01:01:17,346 --> 01:01:18,836
They just overreacted.
1165
01:01:21,517 --> 01:01:23,950
I certainly understand
how she got involved with him,
1166
01:01:24,453 --> 01:01:27,546
and I could understand how hard
it would be to leave that.
1167
01:01:29,324 --> 01:01:30,553
There was a lot to leave.
1168
01:01:31,794 --> 01:01:34,786
Especially if it was to go back
to your parents' house
1169
01:01:34,896 --> 01:01:37,695
in Laguna Beach and start over.
1170
01:01:39,568 --> 01:01:44,528
O.J. Was the income producer
for the family.
1171
01:01:45,474 --> 01:01:48,841
For not only just Nicole and O.J.
1172
01:01:48,944 --> 01:01:53,847
But for Nicole's father,
and mother, sisters...
1173
01:01:54,617 --> 01:01:56,778
He was the... the money man.
1174
01:01:59,088 --> 01:02:02,990
Nicole told me that she felt
her family would side with O.J.
1175
01:02:04,092 --> 01:02:06,618
And that... and that disturbed her
a great deal.
1176
01:02:09,865 --> 01:02:12,060
Nicole was like the trophy to him.
1177
01:02:12,368 --> 01:02:13,994
You know, something that...
that he possessed,
1178
01:02:14,769 --> 01:02:16,465
that he wanted control of,
you know?
1179
01:02:16,805 --> 01:02:18,966
And "You better do what I say,"
but, you know,
1180
01:02:19,108 --> 01:02:20,404
"You better go along
with this program."
1181
01:02:20,842 --> 01:02:23,607
I... I totally believe
he was concerned about his image.
1182
01:02:23,979 --> 01:02:25,810
What kind of public reaction
did you get,
1183
01:02:25,948 --> 01:02:28,575
and what kind of corporate reaction
did you get, Juice?
1184
01:02:28,684 --> 01:02:32,677
Surprisingly, so supportive
it was unbelievable, you know?
1185
01:02:32,822 --> 01:02:33,788
So supportive, you know?
1186
01:02:33,856 --> 01:02:36,689
Uh, most of the people that I work with
know us real well,
1187
01:02:36,892 --> 01:02:39,519
so they can see first-hand
that there was, uh, you know, that,
1188
01:02:39,627 --> 01:02:41,027
hey, our relationship
was as strong as...
1189
01:02:41,162 --> 01:02:44,825
not only as it's ever been,
but as strong as anybody's I know.
1190
01:02:44,966 --> 01:02:46,992
So nobody dropped you
from any contracts?
1191
01:02:47,136 --> 01:02:48,660
- No. No. No.
- See, the one thing that...
1192
01:02:48,770 --> 01:02:49,703
anotherthing people
don't realize about O.J.
1193
01:02:49,805 --> 01:02:53,741
Is he is extremely, uh, well-involved
in the business community.
1194
01:02:53,876 --> 01:02:55,672
And he doesn't wanna do this,
'cause it's embarrassing to him,
1195
01:02:55,911 --> 01:02:57,776
but he is one of the owners
of HoneyBaked Hams,
1196
01:02:58,012 --> 01:02:59,947
uh, Ramada Inns,
a couple of Ramada Inns,
1197
01:03:00,048 --> 01:03:01,141
three Ramada Inns,
1198
01:03:01,449 --> 01:03:02,883
very involved, of course,
with Hertz.
1199
01:03:03,152 --> 01:03:05,382
And when something
like this happens,
1200
01:03:05,554 --> 01:03:06,452
it takes a toll,
1201
01:03:06,555 --> 01:03:08,523
it takes a bite out of it,
but, you know,
1202
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:10,021
it boun... you bounce back
from something like this.
1203
01:03:10,526 --> 01:03:12,926
Once they really, really
got back together,
1204
01:03:13,528 --> 01:03:14,996
you know, I mean,
we were still friends, you know,
1205
01:03:15,097 --> 01:03:16,428
I still know the guy and everything,
1206
01:03:16,966 --> 01:03:18,160
but, you know,
1207
01:03:18,801 --> 01:03:20,428
he kinda had that, uh, attitude,
1208
01:03:20,735 --> 01:03:22,863
"I'm back. I knew I'd be back."
1209
01:03:23,005 --> 01:03:25,905
You know, "Hey...
Don't worry about it."
1210
01:03:26,041 --> 01:03:27,735
You know, "Everything's fine."
1211
01:03:29,744 --> 01:03:33,441
This is where O.J. Simpson
performed community service
1212
01:03:33,815 --> 01:03:36,410
as part of his sentence
for beating his wife, Nicole.
1213
01:03:36,819 --> 01:03:39,686
For part of his punishment,
Simpson went golfing.
1214
01:03:40,089 --> 01:03:42,682
He spent his 120 hours
of community service
1215
01:03:42,791 --> 01:03:44,588
organizing a celebrity tournament.
1216
01:03:45,094 --> 01:03:48,757
Prosecutors in the case say
they wanted him to go to jail.
1217
01:03:53,669 --> 01:03:57,832
Can you imagine if every time he did
something violent like that
1218
01:03:58,607 --> 01:04:00,507
that a report would've been made?
1219
01:04:01,476 --> 01:04:04,207
When I got to the station,
I checked the computer,
1220
01:04:04,512 --> 01:04:09,177
there would have been eight previous
domestic incident reports on file.
1221
01:04:10,219 --> 01:04:12,778
Then I would have put that
in my report
1222
01:04:12,988 --> 01:04:15,752
and sent it on to the prosecutor,
1223
01:04:16,057 --> 01:04:19,493
that most likely that would have
been filed as a felony.
1224
01:04:20,496 --> 01:04:24,761
Because it would have shown
that a slap on the hand
1225
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,868
is not going to cure this
from happening again.
1226
01:04:29,003 --> 01:04:31,768
And that's why I hung
onto the report.
1227
01:04:32,041 --> 01:04:34,202
I don't have a garage full of reports,
1228
01:04:34,810 --> 01:04:38,211
I have one report, one,
1229
01:04:38,814 --> 01:04:42,146
that was O.J. Simpson's report
because I thought
1230
01:04:42,918 --> 01:04:47,582
that the case might be mishandled,
and I needed proof
1231
01:04:47,689 --> 01:04:48,850
that it actually happened,
1232
01:04:50,859 --> 01:04:52,884
and I thought he was gonna kill her.
1233
01:05:00,085 --> 01:05:03,543
Acontroversial case involving
four Los Angeles police officers
1234
01:05:03,654 --> 01:05:04,622
goes to court today.
1235
01:05:04,723 --> 01:05:05,883
The officers face charges
1236
01:05:06,024 --> 01:05:08,515
stemming from the videotaped
beating of a motorist.
1237
01:05:08,693 --> 01:05:10,626
The case has already
raised accusations
1238
01:05:10,796 --> 01:05:12,889
of officially-sanctioned racism
and brutality.
1239
01:05:13,831 --> 01:05:15,800
At issue is the use of force.
1240
01:05:16,367 --> 01:05:18,858
The question is whether
theirforce was justified
1241
01:05:19,003 --> 01:05:21,336
by King's behavior
before the camera rolled.
1242
01:05:23,474 --> 01:05:25,875
I don't think that that
should have been prosecuted.
1243
01:05:26,812 --> 01:05:28,608
Those officers had
about two seconds to make up
1244
01:05:28,713 --> 01:05:29,839
their mind to do something,
1245
01:05:30,047 --> 01:05:32,482
and they did what they thought
was right at the time.
1246
01:05:32,818 --> 01:05:34,842
When is too much?
When is not enough?
1247
01:05:35,954 --> 01:05:37,945
Should they go to trial?
Definitely not.
1248
01:05:39,891 --> 01:05:42,621
On film, what you see was illegal.
1249
01:05:43,428 --> 01:05:44,918
There had to be a prosecution,
1250
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:49,831
and if there isn't a legitimate reason
for this,
1251
01:05:50,635 --> 01:05:52,694
there's jail time involved
with this one.
1252
01:05:54,906 --> 01:05:57,465
I was fairly new to LA,
so I'm thinkin',
1253
01:05:57,642 --> 01:06:01,975
"Hey, we got 'em- we got 'em cold.
This time we'll getjustice."
1254
01:06:02,881 --> 01:06:06,044
And there were people who had lived
in those communities a long time,
1255
01:06:06,184 --> 01:06:07,151
and they were saying,
1256
01:06:07,452 --> 01:06:10,511
"well, you know, maybe.
I hope so.
1257
01:06:11,055 --> 01:06:12,580
But it's not a done deal."
1258
01:06:14,192 --> 01:06:16,921
In a brand-new courthouse
in a distant LAsuburb
1259
01:06:17,028 --> 01:06:18,494
called Simi Valley,
1260
01:06:18,762 --> 01:06:21,391
the city's drama is putting
a little town on the map.
1261
01:06:21,867 --> 01:06:23,528
The defense had the trial moved
1262
01:06:23,668 --> 01:06:25,965
from Los Angeles county
to this bedroom suburb.
1263
01:06:26,471 --> 01:06:29,804
This area is notably more white
and conservative than LA
1264
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:33,672
It was a horrible decision.
1265
01:06:33,778 --> 01:06:35,541
It was the worst possible decision.
1266
01:06:35,881 --> 01:06:39,145
And a lot of LAPD officers
live in Simi Valley.
1267
01:06:41,485 --> 01:06:43,851
The idea is that you get
a representative cross-section
1268
01:06:43,955 --> 01:06:46,446
of the community, that's what
the sixth amendment talks about,
1269
01:06:46,625 --> 01:06:49,617
and that people come in
with different life experiences,
1270
01:06:49,828 --> 01:06:50,885
because you really do need
1271
01:06:50,996 --> 01:06:52,964
the people to come
from different walks of life
1272
01:06:53,532 --> 01:06:56,524
so that you get a complete
understanding of the testimony.
1273
01:06:57,001 --> 01:06:59,470
Completely in fearfor my life,
scared to death
1274
01:06:59,571 --> 01:07:00,832
that if this guy got back up,
1275
01:07:01,473 --> 01:07:03,464
he was gonna take my gun
away from me.
1276
01:07:04,242 --> 01:07:06,903
Cases involving charges
against police officers
1277
01:07:07,011 --> 01:07:08,479
are rarely slam dunks.
1278
01:07:08,779 --> 01:07:10,474
Even when they're on videotape.
1279
01:07:10,849 --> 01:07:13,215
Do you believe that the actions
of your officers
1280
01:07:13,518 --> 01:07:16,009
up to this point were having
any effect on Mr. King?
1281
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,854
None at all. This was a managed
and controlled use of force.
1282
01:07:19,957 --> 01:07:21,618
It followed the policies
and procedures
1283
01:07:21,725 --> 01:07:23,660
of Los Angeles Police Department
and the training.
1284
01:07:24,128 --> 01:07:26,653
Now,
as the defense presents its case,
1285
01:07:26,965 --> 01:07:29,229
civil rights lawyers
like Johnnie Cochran worry
1286
01:07:29,768 --> 01:07:31,793
that convictions are far from certain,
1287
01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:34,561
because the prosecutors seem
to lack experience
1288
01:07:34,672 --> 01:07:35,765
dealing with cops.
1289
01:07:36,073 --> 01:07:38,702
Somebody with some experience
has to stand up and say,
1290
01:07:38,876 --> 01:07:40,469
"Look, you can't get away with this.
1291
01:07:40,579 --> 01:07:42,570
This isn't right,
and we're not gonna let it happen."
1292
01:07:42,781 --> 01:07:44,908
The prosecution's strategy
seems to be
1293
01:07:44,983 --> 01:07:47,815
to let the violence
of the videotape speak for itself.
1294
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:52,149
But nobody is certain anymore
what that tape is saying to thejury.
1295
01:07:53,892 --> 01:07:57,055
I had been telling my people
at Time Magazine,
1296
01:07:57,162 --> 01:07:58,561
"There's something going on.
1297
01:07:59,564 --> 01:08:00,826
We need to pay attention.
1298
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,265
There's a story here
beyond this trial."
1299
01:08:07,872 --> 01:08:10,670
I just sensed there was this unrest.
1300
01:08:27,292 --> 01:08:31,023
The day started like any other day,
but it really wasn't.
1301
01:08:31,163 --> 01:08:33,654
We were waiting forthe verdict
to be handed down in the trial
1302
01:08:33,832 --> 01:08:35,801
of the four white police officers
1303
01:08:35,901 --> 01:08:38,028
that were charged
with beating Rodney King.
1304
01:08:39,038 --> 01:08:40,266
Sergeant Koon, how are you feeling?
1305
01:08:41,339 --> 01:08:42,306
No comment.
1306
01:08:43,109 --> 01:08:44,700
I got up that morning and I said,
1307
01:08:44,810 --> 01:08:46,300
"I gotta go out there
and see what's going on."
1308
01:08:46,846 --> 01:08:49,109
So I got on the freeway
and started looking for Simi Valley.
1309
01:08:51,850 --> 01:08:53,681
It's a all-white town.
1310
01:08:54,053 --> 01:08:56,578
I only saw white people
out there that day,
1311
01:08:57,722 --> 01:09:02,021
and they wasn't that kind to me
when I was asking for direction.
1312
01:09:04,963 --> 01:09:06,829
I wanted to be there to witness it,
1313
01:09:07,867 --> 01:09:10,131
and I guess I thought that
my being there
1314
01:09:10,235 --> 01:09:11,794
was gonna change something.
1315
01:09:12,137 --> 01:09:13,627
Title of accordant cause:
1316
01:09:14,339 --> 01:09:16,934
We the jury,
in the above-entitled action,
1317
01:09:17,208 --> 01:09:18,301
find the defendant,
1318
01:09:18,610 --> 01:09:20,806
Laurence M. Powell not guilty of...
1319
01:09:20,913 --> 01:09:22,812
(Gasps, shocked reactions)
1320
01:09:22,948 --> 01:09:24,006
(Bleeped cursing)
1321
01:09:24,716 --> 01:09:26,617
Man, you got to be kiddin'.
1322
01:09:26,919 --> 01:09:29,182
We thejury,
in the above-entitled action,
1323
01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:31,953
find the defendant
Theodore J. Briseno
1324
01:09:32,057 --> 01:09:34,117
not guilty of the crime of assault
1325
01:09:34,927 --> 01:09:37,258
by force likely to produce
great bodily injury
1326
01:09:37,663 --> 01:09:38,823
with a deadly weapon.
1327
01:09:39,297 --> 01:09:43,597
This 29th day of April, 1992,
signed by the court.
1328
01:09:43,968 --> 01:09:45,333
Title of accordant cause:
1329
01:09:46,071 --> 01:09:48,369
We the jury,
in the above-entitled action,
1330
01:09:49,008 --> 01:09:51,066
find the defendant,
Timothy E. Wind,
1331
01:09:51,142 --> 01:09:54,010
not guilty of the crime
of assault by force
1332
01:09:54,145 --> 01:09:57,809
likely to produce great bodily injury
with a deadly weapon.
1333
01:09:58,284 --> 01:10:00,615
I was sitting in the bureau
the day of the verdict,
1334
01:10:00,919 --> 01:10:03,012
with all of my white colleagues
and friends.
1335
01:10:03,689 --> 01:10:04,383
We the jury-
1336
01:10:04,724 --> 01:10:06,624
And every time they said,
"Not guilty"...
1337
01:10:06,892 --> 01:10:09,655
- the defendant, Stacey C. Koon,
not guilty...
1338
01:10:09,761 --> 01:10:13,993
...what I heard was, "Fuck niggers.
Not guilty. Fuck niggers."
1339
01:10:15,401 --> 01:10:18,837
No justice! No peace!
No justice! No peace!
1340
01:10:19,003 --> 01:10:21,404
I was at Parker Center
when the acquittals were announced.
1341
01:10:22,174 --> 01:10:25,109
And I recall some high-fives
and some fist-pumping in the air,
1342
01:10:25,211 --> 01:10:26,940
and, I mean, there were clearly
some people who felt
1343
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:30,806
that the public misunderstood them,
that the media misunderstood them,
1344
01:10:30,983 --> 01:10:32,143
and that the jury got it right.
1345
01:10:32,251 --> 01:10:34,685
Well, first, all your reaction
to what has happened.
1346
01:10:35,855 --> 01:10:37,652
Very happy.
(Chuckles)
1347
01:10:37,790 --> 01:10:39,121
(Angry shouting)
1348
01:10:43,128 --> 01:10:47,122
I'm glad the LAPD are out there
protecting me...
1349
01:10:48,801 --> 01:10:51,395
I wanted to believe
that the system would work
1350
01:10:51,804 --> 01:10:53,135
for black people in general,
1351
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:55,207
even though I knew often it doesn't,
1352
01:10:55,707 --> 01:10:58,040
but this time, it should work.
And it didn't.
1353
01:10:58,711 --> 01:10:59,734
And all I felt like,
1354
01:10:59,845 --> 01:11:01,437
I just wanted
to smack somebody white.
1355
01:11:03,282 --> 01:11:04,442
You're guilty!
1356
01:11:04,750 --> 01:11:06,775
Your skin color determines
what degree ofjustice
1357
01:11:06,886 --> 01:11:07,750
you have these days.
1358
01:11:09,755 --> 01:11:13,020
I don't think the community's
gonna take this lying down.
1359
01:11:14,059 --> 01:11:16,323
I don't think this is gonna be good.
1360
01:11:16,462 --> 01:11:19,022
No justice in America,
not for the blacks!
1361
01:11:19,799 --> 01:11:22,824
Thejustice is forthe other man,
not forthe brother man!
1362
01:11:25,838 --> 01:11:28,931
Pastor, your reaction
after that first verdict was read?
1363
01:11:29,141 --> 01:11:33,942
Our reaction was almost universal,
utter pain.
1364
01:11:35,181 --> 01:11:37,011
Justice! Justice!
1365
01:11:37,383 --> 01:11:41,080
Rodney King did not have
a choirboy's record,
1366
01:11:41,487 --> 01:11:44,011
but Rodney King
had the flesh and blood
1367
01:11:44,223 --> 01:11:46,987
of decency and humanity
in his heart.
1368
01:11:47,091 --> 01:11:51,324
What they were beating
is every Black person in America.
1369
01:11:52,231 --> 01:11:53,823
Don't lay down for this shit!
1370
01:11:53,966 --> 01:11:57,231
We had an understanding
that the night of the verdict
1371
01:11:57,869 --> 01:12:00,304
we would assemble
at First AME Church.
1372
01:12:01,774 --> 01:12:04,299
We'd been meeting with the mayor
to get ready.
1373
01:12:04,410 --> 01:12:05,308
I said Beverly Hills,
1374
01:12:05,444 --> 01:12:07,172
'cause this is some fucked-up shit
that happened, man.
1375
01:12:07,246 --> 01:12:08,213
- This is history...
- We're going to westwood...
1376
01:12:08,314 --> 01:12:11,215
Brentwood, whitewood. All that.
1377
01:12:11,317 --> 01:12:15,185
We were gonna send out groups
of young men
1378
01:12:15,354 --> 01:12:19,848
to walk the streets
and keep everything in order.
1379
01:12:20,025 --> 01:12:21,788
(Police sirens)
1380
01:12:25,998 --> 01:12:30,162
I had spent weeks talking
to Black clergy, gang members,
1381
01:12:30,269 --> 01:12:34,933
and they were very upfront about
what they believed would happen.
1382
01:12:36,141 --> 01:12:37,438
"Yeah, there's gonna be violence."
1383
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:42,841
So we had everything prepared.
We had the copter fully fueled.
1384
01:12:43,482 --> 01:12:44,540
It seems like the only people
1385
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:46,340
that didn't know
that there would be a riot
1386
01:12:46,552 --> 01:12:48,349
was the news media
and the LAPD.
1387
01:12:50,154 --> 01:12:54,251
You're looking at a live picture here
at Normandie and Florence.
1388
01:12:54,393 --> 01:12:56,987
There has been a mini-riot
at this location.
1389
01:12:57,229 --> 01:12:59,253
There's now been a tactical alert.
1390
01:12:59,398 --> 01:13:04,267
Officers have been ordered
to stay out of this general area.
1391
01:13:04,570 --> 01:13:07,003
We're gonna try to get you
more information on that.
1392
01:13:09,008 --> 01:13:10,270
Even before the verdict,
1393
01:13:10,376 --> 01:13:13,072
Los Angeles police chief
Daryl Gates was criticized
1394
01:13:13,244 --> 01:13:15,076
for preparing for unrest
in the event
1395
01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:16,579
four of his officers
were acquitted.
1396
01:13:17,149 --> 01:13:18,377
But when the rioting began,
1397
01:13:18,918 --> 01:13:21,181
where were the police
and firefighters?
1398
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,185
(Angry shouting)
1399
01:13:27,859 --> 01:13:30,454
My most striking memory is of
members of the police commission
1400
01:13:30,596 --> 01:13:32,063
desperately trying to find Gates.
1401
01:13:32,264 --> 01:13:34,391
Which is just shocking, if you
think about it in retrospect,
1402
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:35,489
that the verdicts
in the Rodney King case
1403
01:13:35,634 --> 01:13:37,295
were coming down and the chief
was not at Parker Center.
1404
01:13:37,502 --> 01:13:40,267
Gates had driven to this house
in ritzy Brentwood
1405
01:13:40,372 --> 01:13:43,306
to campaign against
a police reform initiative.
1406
01:13:44,109 --> 01:13:47,078
Fighting police reform,
that's what he was doing.
1407
01:13:47,513 --> 01:13:50,913
He abandoned his post
1408
01:13:51,383 --> 01:13:55,216
and left his troops
in a shameful state.
1409
01:13:55,487 --> 01:13:56,976
(Angry shouting)
1410
01:14:00,192 --> 01:14:01,886
The LAPD response was tepid.
1411
01:14:04,997 --> 01:14:07,363
All of the media
gets on the police department,
1412
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:08,966
the people are screaming,
1413
01:14:09,068 --> 01:14:10,591
"we have an occupying force."
1414
01:14:11,103 --> 01:14:13,162
Well, gee, we don't wanna
look like an occupying force,
1415
01:14:13,272 --> 01:14:15,001
so maybe we'll just sit here
until it blows over.
1416
01:14:15,140 --> 01:14:16,505
That type of crap goes on.
1417
01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:19,438
And we were furious.
1418
01:14:27,086 --> 01:14:29,247
- Fuck the police!
- Fuck 'em! Fuck 'em!
1419
01:14:33,125 --> 01:14:35,184
Chaos at this particular location.
1420
01:14:36,494 --> 01:14:40,261
To see the very start of the violence
was very troubling.
1421
01:14:41,166 --> 01:14:44,135
What made it really troubling
was there was no police presence.
1422
01:14:44,403 --> 01:14:46,199
There's a van coming under attack.
1423
01:14:46,605 --> 01:14:48,368
They're pulling the driver
out of the van,
1424
01:14:48,474 --> 01:14:50,669
and they're kicking the driver
and beating the driver.
1425
01:14:51,109 --> 01:14:53,044
We captured
what essentially became
1426
01:14:53,178 --> 01:14:56,204
the bookend
to the Rodney King beating.
1427
01:14:56,715 --> 01:14:58,511
There's another driver, badly beaten.
1428
01:14:59,051 --> 01:15:00,416
In the case of Reginald Denny,
1429
01:15:00,618 --> 01:15:03,588
we had black gang members
beating a white man.
1430
01:15:04,156 --> 01:15:06,317
Oh, look at that. Terrible.
1431
01:15:06,492 --> 01:15:08,926
And there's no police
presence down here.
1432
01:15:09,094 --> 01:15:10,220
They will not enterthe area.
1433
01:15:11,997 --> 01:15:14,488
That was the most disgusting thing
I've seen in my entire career.
1434
01:15:15,234 --> 01:15:17,964
Two blocks away we had
a platoon of metro division.
1435
01:15:18,136 --> 01:15:19,934
We could have cleared
that intersection in a minute.
1436
01:15:20,606 --> 01:15:21,436
But the commander there
1437
01:15:21,540 --> 01:15:24,100
didn't wanna release 'em
to do it, because of imagery.
1438
01:15:24,208 --> 01:15:25,335
We're on live television.
1439
01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:27,601
We're seeing a dark day
here in Los Angeles.
1440
01:15:28,247 --> 01:15:30,181
The LAPD is nowhere to be found.
1441
01:15:30,449 --> 01:15:32,109
So we're sitting there
in our uniforms
1442
01:15:32,216 --> 01:15:34,582
watching this poortruck driver
get his head beat in.
1443
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,243
Nobody's doing a damn thing
about it.
1444
01:15:36,455 --> 01:15:37,422
We're screamin'.
1445
01:15:38,323 --> 01:15:39,688
Nobody would even move on it.
1446
01:15:48,199 --> 01:15:49,224
How are you this evening?
1447
01:15:50,234 --> 01:15:51,497
- Angry.
- Angry?
1448
01:15:53,538 --> 01:15:56,167
The jury is trying to tell us
we didn't see what we saw.
1449
01:15:56,375 --> 01:15:58,104
(Cheers, applause)
1450
01:15:58,243 --> 01:16:01,644
We've been the victims
of police brutality in this town
1451
01:16:01,779 --> 01:16:03,110
for too long!
1452
01:16:03,315 --> 01:16:05,180
(Cheers, applause)
1453
01:16:08,487 --> 01:16:09,749
We didn't come here tonight
to mourn.
1454
01:16:10,089 --> 01:16:12,250
We came here tonight
to say who we are.
1455
01:16:12,391 --> 01:16:13,221
(Cheers, applause)
1456
01:16:13,425 --> 01:16:15,449
And we ain't gonna take this
business lying down.
1457
01:16:15,694 --> 01:16:16,752
(Cheers, applause)
1458
01:16:17,096 --> 01:16:18,461
And we ain't gonna tear up
our community
1459
01:16:18,564 --> 01:16:19,588
to be proving their point.
1460
01:16:20,032 --> 01:16:21,499
(Cheers, applause)
1461
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:25,332
Mark Brown, Channel Seven
waved at the monitor and said,
1462
01:16:25,503 --> 01:16:29,372
"The city's on fire.
It's on fire."
1463
01:16:30,275 --> 01:16:32,368
And I looked at him and said,
"My God."
1464
01:16:32,544 --> 01:16:34,671
I had no idea it was
right across the street.
1465
01:16:34,813 --> 01:16:35,744
Literally.
1466
01:16:36,415 --> 01:16:38,645
The gas station was on fire.
1467
01:16:45,824 --> 01:16:49,350
What I didn't anticipate
personally and professionally
1468
01:16:49,795 --> 01:16:52,787
was the response of the community.
1469
01:16:56,168 --> 01:16:59,160
I went on the streets,
and western Avenue was in flames.
1470
01:17:01,273 --> 01:17:05,266
And this crowd is gathering,
and the police have now come,
1471
01:17:06,377 --> 01:17:09,279
and there's one guy,
and he's screaming his head off,
1472
01:17:09,547 --> 01:17:11,208
"Burn, baby, burn!
1473
01:17:11,383 --> 01:17:14,250
How you like me now,
Mr. Policeman?"
1474
01:17:18,090 --> 01:17:20,320
And I felt his pain.
1475
01:17:25,264 --> 01:17:26,457
I just didn't get it.
1476
01:17:26,665 --> 01:17:29,532
I just didn't understand
burning down your own community.
1477
01:17:31,537 --> 01:17:32,731
I didn't get what it proved.
1478
01:17:38,342 --> 01:17:40,708
Here are people who feel
like they have no stake,
1479
01:17:41,446 --> 01:17:43,277
nobody's paying
any attention to them.
1480
01:17:44,483 --> 01:17:46,713
This is the only way
we can get any attention.
1481
01:17:47,219 --> 01:17:48,550
(Angry chanting)
1482
01:17:53,192 --> 01:17:56,092
As it got darker,
a crowd began to gather out
1483
01:17:56,195 --> 01:17:57,252
in front of the police department.
1484
01:17:59,598 --> 01:18:01,360
It got increasingly unruly.
1485
01:18:02,234 --> 01:18:03,724
Someone grabbed me
and tore my shirt
1486
01:18:03,868 --> 01:18:05,268
and said something about,
you know,
1487
01:18:05,369 --> 01:18:07,360
"You fucking newsmen.
Why do you tell lies?"
1488
01:18:12,243 --> 01:18:16,305
It is the most physically-frightening
situation that I've ever been part of.
1489
01:18:16,615 --> 01:18:18,207
(Angry shouting)
1490
01:18:23,555 --> 01:18:25,614
(Helicopter blades)
1491
01:18:26,792 --> 01:18:28,453
Guy pulls up, and he goes,
1492
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,256
"Mike, whatever you do,
don't go to the command post.
1493
01:18:31,630 --> 01:18:33,291
Go to the police station
down the street.
1494
01:18:33,565 --> 01:18:35,590
Because it's very violent out there."
1495
01:18:36,467 --> 01:18:38,628
I looked at him, and I thought,
"what a coward he is,"
1496
01:18:39,705 --> 01:18:45,268
get in the car, make the first turn,
and the car gets lit up by gunfire.
1497
01:18:45,677 --> 01:18:48,407
So I go, "Okay. Now I know
what he's talking about."
1498
01:18:48,513 --> 01:18:50,447
So I took my .45 out,
I put it on my lap,
1499
01:18:50,949 --> 01:18:53,417
I took a big gulp of Copenhagen,
1500
01:18:53,719 --> 01:18:56,347
stuck it down my mouth,
turned off the lights
1501
01:18:56,488 --> 01:18:58,752
and drove as fast as I could
to the command post.
1502
01:19:02,394 --> 01:19:07,263
Hindsight, the overall management
could've been done much better,
1503
01:19:14,473 --> 01:19:19,638
but once it got away from us,
we were cooked.
1504
01:19:24,949 --> 01:19:26,940
(Helicopter blades)
1505
01:19:57,767 --> 01:19:59,291
911 Emergency.
1506
01:19:59,402 --> 01:20:01,198
Yeah, can you send someone
to my house?
1507
01:20:01,671 --> 01:20:02,695
What's the problem there?
1508
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:05,037
Well, my ex-husband,
or my husband,
1509
01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:06,501
just broke into my house,
1510
01:20:06,643 --> 01:20:08,133
and he's ranting and raving.
1511
01:20:08,243 --> 01:20:09,733
Now he's just walked out
on the front yard.
1512
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:12,141
Has he been drinking
or anything?
1513
01:20:12,348 --> 01:20:13,713
No, but he's crazy.
1514
01:20:14,084 --> 01:20:15,210
Is he black, white, or Hispanic?
1515
01:20:15,652 --> 01:20:16,482
Black.
1516
01:20:16,752 --> 01:20:18,084
What's he wearing right now?
1517
01:20:18,555 --> 01:20:20,489
Black pants and a golf shirt.
1518
01:20:21,157 --> 01:20:22,350
You said he hasn't
been drinking?
1519
01:20:22,459 --> 01:20:23,289
- No.
- Did he hit you?
1520
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:24,651
No.
1521
01:20:24,794 --> 01:20:26,260
Do you have a restraining order
against him?
1522
01:20:26,362 --> 01:20:27,192
No.
1523
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:28,328
What's your name?
1524
01:20:28,698 --> 01:20:29,665
Nicole Simpson.
1525
01:20:30,033 --> 01:20:30,624
Your address?
1526
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,462
325 Gretna Green Way.
1527
01:20:34,037 --> 01:20:35,197
Okay, we'll send police out.
1528
01:20:35,572 --> 01:20:36,539
- Thank you.
- Uh-huh.
1529
01:20:39,608 --> 01:20:43,170
When Nicole first decided
to leave O.J.,
1530
01:20:44,046 --> 01:20:45,173
she came to me.
1531
01:20:46,382 --> 01:20:48,474
She said, "I wanna move out"
and at that time,
1532
01:20:48,551 --> 01:20:50,075
I was doing real estate.
1533
01:20:50,687 --> 01:20:52,678
And then we had to sell
O.J. On the idea.
1534
01:20:54,090 --> 01:20:56,320
He was obsessed
with controlling Nicole.
1535
01:20:56,659 --> 01:20:59,126
I said, "Look, O.J.,
we'll get her a lease."
1536
01:20:59,261 --> 01:21:00,751
He goes, "Three months."
1537
01:21:01,064 --> 01:21:05,501
I said, "we'll get her a year lease.
You know? It'll be right nearby.
1538
01:21:06,803 --> 01:21:10,170
You can go to therapy and see
if you can work things out.
1539
01:21:10,305 --> 01:21:12,035
But she needs her space."
1540
01:21:12,841 --> 01:21:14,502
He really didn't wanna do it.
1541
01:21:27,823 --> 01:21:29,814
I think forthe first time she felt free.
1542
01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:34,162
It was like she just came
into that sense of self,
1543
01:21:34,364 --> 01:21:37,527
that she was really ready to do
life for her and her kids.
1544
01:21:40,403 --> 01:21:42,371
She responded great
to being divorced.
1545
01:21:43,506 --> 01:21:46,099
She was really enjoying her life,
1546
01:21:46,242 --> 01:21:49,268
going out
and not being Mrs. Simpson,
1547
01:21:49,879 --> 01:21:51,278
being Nicole Brown.
1548
01:21:52,182 --> 01:21:54,376
She wanted to pursue her
photography career,
1549
01:21:54,617 --> 01:21:58,246
and she wanted to have
a normal life again.
1550
01:22:03,358 --> 01:22:04,451
It was a beautiful day,
1551
01:22:04,561 --> 01:22:06,495
and we skied down to the bottom
of the mountain.
1552
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:09,826
And everybody's gathering
on the deck, having a great time.
1553
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,527
I looked across the deck,
and I said, "wow."
1554
01:22:12,635 --> 01:22:14,569
I said that, "That is absolutely
the most stunning woman
1555
01:22:14,704 --> 01:22:15,568
I've ever seen in my life.
1556
01:22:15,638 --> 01:22:17,629
I have to find a way
to introduce myself to her."
1557
01:22:17,807 --> 01:22:18,636
So I did.
1558
01:22:20,210 --> 01:22:21,700
When I got back to LA
several months later,
1559
01:22:22,144 --> 01:22:23,373
we spent more time together.
1560
01:22:23,746 --> 01:22:25,680
Her and friends came by
Mezzaluna one night,
1561
01:22:26,416 --> 01:22:28,849
and we're having a good time,
and, all of a sudden,
1562
01:22:29,385 --> 01:22:30,852
I see the Bentley
come screeching up
1563
01:22:31,153 --> 01:22:32,178
to the front of the door.
1564
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:35,123
He comes in, walks straight over
to our table,
1565
01:22:35,391 --> 01:22:36,585
slams his hands down,
1566
01:22:36,659 --> 01:22:38,421
looks me straight in the eye
and says,
1567
01:22:38,661 --> 01:22:40,720
"I'm O.J. Simpson,
and she's still my wife."
1568
01:22:42,332 --> 01:22:43,731
I was sort of love-blind,
1569
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:46,425
so I didn't get up, I didn't run,
I didn't back down,
1570
01:22:46,603 --> 01:22:48,230
I just stood my ground
from day one.
1571
01:22:48,905 --> 01:22:51,500
And that's when she started
to open up to me.
1572
01:22:53,776 --> 01:22:57,405
She told me about years of abuse
at his hands.
1573
01:23:14,296 --> 01:23:16,629
He would beat her and lock her
in closets at hotels
1574
01:23:16,965 --> 01:23:18,695
because she asked
where he was at
1575
01:23:19,269 --> 01:23:20,634
when he was out
cheating on her.
1576
01:23:27,677 --> 01:23:30,942
She was told howto look,
told how to wear her hair,
1577
01:23:31,247 --> 01:23:32,179
told howto dress,
1578
01:23:32,348 --> 01:23:33,747
told where to be,
what time to be,
1579
01:23:33,849 --> 01:23:36,648
how to be, everything
for O.J. Simpson.
1580
01:23:37,754 --> 01:23:41,212
Kind of a reverse slavery thing.
Uh, very, very odd.
1581
01:23:41,524 --> 01:23:43,787
You know, "That's, uh,
that's my property,"
1582
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,825
and he always said,
"That's my booty."
1583
01:23:47,664 --> 01:23:49,222
The two sides of O.J.,
1584
01:23:49,332 --> 01:23:51,197
the O.J. That everybody
sees on TV...
1585
01:23:51,301 --> 01:23:53,292
And when the Cowboys
brought in their big back,
1586
01:23:53,436 --> 01:23:56,371
that they didn't make good tackles
on them, so the coach
1587
01:23:56,472 --> 01:23:58,406
was on their cases
to make better tackles,
1588
01:23:58,541 --> 01:23:59,734
as my family throws
snowballs at me.
1589
01:23:59,841 --> 01:24:00,774
Incidentally, uh...
1590
01:24:00,910 --> 01:24:03,674
That's not the O.J. That there was
behind closed doors,
1591
01:24:03,846 --> 01:24:05,746
certainly not with her,
and she told me that.
1592
01:24:07,517 --> 01:24:09,644
"Don't ever be
left alone with him,
1593
01:24:09,919 --> 01:24:11,510
'cause you don't know
what he's capable of."
1594
01:24:13,890 --> 01:24:18,293
He had her followed, and he would
plant people in our group
1595
01:24:18,528 --> 01:24:21,588
that would call him and tell him
where we're going every night.
1596
01:24:22,732 --> 01:24:23,823
He would either show up
1597
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:27,334
or have a spy planted there
at the club
1598
01:24:27,437 --> 01:24:28,836
so they could watch
her every move.
1599
01:24:29,739 --> 01:24:33,732
He never relinquished control.
He never would really let go.
1600
01:24:35,611 --> 01:24:38,010
He would tell me that Nicole
tried to get him back,
1601
01:24:38,814 --> 01:24:42,011
that she was actually taking
golf lessons at Riviera.
1602
01:24:42,585 --> 01:24:45,418
And he had a girlfriend,
you know, Paula.
1603
01:24:45,822 --> 01:24:48,017
And he seemed enthralled with her.
1604
01:24:50,793 --> 01:24:53,921
O.J.'s personality
had totally changed,
1605
01:24:54,063 --> 01:24:55,792
and I didn't think
it was just the divorce.
1606
01:24:56,766 --> 01:24:58,757
Because his womanizing
didn't change.
1607
01:24:59,635 --> 01:25:03,332
He was truly the mostjealous person
I ever met in my life.
1608
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,769
He was as jealous as he was
a good football player.
1609
01:25:09,644 --> 01:25:10,737
I saw the anger,
1610
01:25:10,847 --> 01:25:13,941
I saw the rage in his face
on several occasions.
1611
01:25:14,384 --> 01:25:16,409
At me, in particular, and at her.
1612
01:25:19,921 --> 01:25:23,448
There was an incident
where we went overto Roxbury,
1613
01:25:23,826 --> 01:25:25,384
a hot club at the time in LA,
1614
01:25:25,495 --> 01:25:27,724
and we get in,
and she's dancing.
1615
01:25:28,765 --> 01:25:32,496
Maybe 20, 30 minutes go by, and I
see her coming back towards me.
1616
01:25:33,403 --> 01:25:38,840
She goes, "O.J.'s here."
And I go, "Ha. Great. Again."
1617
01:25:38,974 --> 01:25:40,965
You know, she goes,
"Let's just get out of here."
1618
01:25:41,109 --> 01:25:42,372
And I say, "I couldn't agree more."
1619
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:45,840
So we drive back to her house
on Gretna Green.
1620
01:25:48,483 --> 01:25:51,680
We go inside,
and, uh, we became romantic.
1621
01:25:53,456 --> 01:25:56,425
We were off in a private area
in one of the living rooms,
1622
01:25:59,362 --> 01:26:02,729
and the next day he came over
and pushed in the back door,
1623
01:26:03,099 --> 01:26:04,361
confronted both of us,
1624
01:26:04,466 --> 01:26:05,958
and he wanted to talk to her alone.
1625
01:26:06,669 --> 01:26:08,500
She was trembling,
standing next to me,
1626
01:26:08,604 --> 01:26:09,832
holding my hand, shaking.
1627
01:26:10,106 --> 01:26:11,801
And she said,
1628
01:26:11,908 --> 01:26:14,399
"Keith, I think you need to leave me
alone with him for a couple minutes."
1629
01:26:15,978 --> 01:26:17,536
I could hear him screaming at her,
1630
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,671
I could hear him
using disparaging terms
1631
01:26:19,782 --> 01:26:20,975
about her and me.
1632
01:26:21,850 --> 01:26:24,911
They walked out,
and he was O.J. Again.
1633
01:26:25,787 --> 01:26:26,982
Shook my hand.
1634
01:26:27,723 --> 01:26:29,384
"Sorry, dude. No hard feelings."
1635
01:26:29,492 --> 01:26:32,358
You know, "I'm a very proud man."
1636
01:26:32,761 --> 01:26:34,093
And he walked out the house.
1637
01:26:35,031 --> 01:26:39,866
And she turned to me, and she was
white as a ghost, and she said,
1638
01:26:40,001 --> 01:26:42,492
"Oh, my God, Keith.
He watched us."
1639
01:26:46,042 --> 01:26:48,635
And everything changed
from that point on.
1640
01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:52,445
We realized
we weren't safe anymore.
1641
01:26:53,049 --> 01:26:56,541
We realized that nothing
was off limits.
1642
01:26:59,555 --> 01:27:04,390
I think she knew O.J. Was always
a presence. She hated it.
1643
01:27:05,094 --> 01:27:08,859
She couldn't even explore
being single again and...
1644
01:27:08,965 --> 01:27:10,489
and free and having fun,
1645
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,861
because everybody was still being
manipulated by O.J.
1646
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,706
When he found out that she
had been with Marcus,
1647
01:27:20,876 --> 01:27:23,539
that's- that was a real issue.
1648
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,541
It's a time you look the competition
1649
01:27:25,648 --> 01:27:26,671
right in the face and say,
1650
01:27:26,782 --> 01:27:28,545
- "Look, I'm betterthan you."
- No, I'm betterthan you.
1651
01:27:28,885 --> 01:27:30,147
You may be younger,
but you ain't better.
1652
01:27:30,453 --> 01:27:31,044
Yo, who started?
1653
01:27:31,187 --> 01:27:32,552
And don't be taking
my number either.
1654
01:27:32,688 --> 01:27:33,746
Besides, I'm better lookin'.
1655
01:27:33,890 --> 01:27:35,482
I'm tired of you trying to be like me.
1656
01:27:35,625 --> 01:27:38,752
I remember going with O.J.
To watch Marcus play at USC.
1657
01:27:42,732 --> 01:27:45,030
He was kinda like a mentor
to Marcus.
1658
01:27:47,970 --> 01:27:50,768
They were extremely close.
Extremely.
1659
01:27:50,939 --> 01:27:52,908
You know, Marcus got married
at O.J.'s house.
1660
01:27:54,876 --> 01:27:57,437
I think she always festered
a crush for Marcus.
1661
01:27:58,247 --> 01:28:00,772
And he was the only person
in her life
1662
01:28:00,883 --> 01:28:04,010
that was as famous
and as strong as O.J.
1663
01:28:05,621 --> 01:28:08,852
And so I think she felt in a way
that she was safe with him.
1664
01:28:13,963 --> 01:28:16,055
O.J. Said, "Marcus, we're 'SC guys.
1665
01:28:16,999 --> 01:28:19,490
We don't do that to each other.
What the hell's wrong with you?"
1666
01:28:22,037 --> 01:28:24,506
He was a younger version of O.J.
1667
01:28:24,707 --> 01:28:27,938
He was almost like the newer,
bigger, better version.
1668
01:28:29,511 --> 01:28:31,571
I had no- no idea whatsoever,
1669
01:28:32,014 --> 01:28:35,040
uh, that they were carrying on
some kind of affair.
1670
01:28:36,052 --> 01:28:37,212
I was a bit stunned.
1671
01:28:38,688 --> 01:28:41,885
Did you ever have a romantic
relationship with Nicole?
1672
01:28:43,025 --> 01:28:44,082
No, I did not.
1673
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,586
No kind of sexual
or romantic involvement
1674
01:28:47,763 --> 01:28:48,751
did you ever have with her?
1675
01:28:48,864 --> 01:28:49,990
None whatsoever.
1676
01:28:51,133 --> 01:28:53,965
I really do not wanna talk
about that at all.
1677
01:28:55,271 --> 01:28:57,535
Sometimes I'll try to sing,
but I'm not gonna do it.
1678
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:58,937
Tonight I got this tequila in me.
1679
01:28:59,675 --> 01:29:01,575
The girl I came here with
said to me,
1680
01:29:02,044 --> 01:29:03,635
"Is this a blues place?"
1681
01:29:03,778 --> 01:29:05,542
I said, "Oh, no, no, no.
This is rhythm and blues."
1682
01:29:05,648 --> 01:29:06,273
(Laughs)
1683
01:29:07,049 --> 01:29:08,743
Speaking of that lady
I was talking about...
1684
01:29:08,850 --> 01:29:09,680
There she is.
1685
01:29:09,785 --> 01:29:10,979
With another shot of this tequila.
1686
01:29:11,153 --> 01:29:12,278
Now, watch her...
Yeah, that's right.
1687
01:29:12,655 --> 01:29:13,280
Now, watch her sing.
1688
01:29:13,656 --> 01:29:15,021
I don't know if...
Oh, my God.
1689
01:29:15,124 --> 01:29:15,988
(Laughs)
1690
01:29:16,559 --> 01:29:17,252
That's right.
1691
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:20,051
We're live right now
all across America,
1692
01:29:20,162 --> 01:29:21,561
and she is my woman.
1693
01:29:21,731 --> 01:29:22,857
(Laughs)
1694
01:29:22,965 --> 01:29:23,989
I'm taking her tequila.
1695
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:25,828
That's why I'm not singing tonight.
1696
01:29:27,169 --> 01:29:29,194
When they initially
got back together,
1697
01:29:29,671 --> 01:29:31,162
I was the first person
she told about it.
1698
01:29:32,174 --> 01:29:34,836
He had told her, "I'm changed.
I'm a new man.
1699
01:29:35,177 --> 01:29:36,769
Let me prove this to ya."
1700
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,748
She said, "we're gonna date first,
and I'm not giving up my house,
1701
01:29:42,051 --> 01:29:43,712
and we're gonna see how it goes."
1702
01:29:44,153 --> 01:29:46,781
That was how they tried to reconcile.
1703
01:29:47,223 --> 01:29:51,023
She said all she really ever wanted
was her family.
1704
01:29:54,063 --> 01:29:58,761
It's almost like she risked everything
to have that unit back together.
1705
01:30:05,908 --> 01:30:06,897
911 Emergency.
What is the...?
1706
01:30:07,009 --> 01:30:10,638
Can you get someone
over here now, to 325 Gretna Green?
1707
01:30:10,746 --> 01:30:12,179
He's back. Please.
1708
01:30:12,381 --> 01:30:13,211
Okay. What does he look like?
1709
01:30:13,382 --> 01:30:15,942
He's O.J. Simpson.
I think you know his record.
1710
01:30:16,085 --> 01:30:17,848
Could you just send
somebody over here?
1711
01:30:17,953 --> 01:30:19,045
Okay. What is he doing there?
1712
01:30:19,221 --> 01:30:20,711
He's just-All this again.
1713
01:30:20,823 --> 01:30:22,347
Could you just send
somebody over?
1714
01:30:22,692 --> 01:30:23,784
Wait a minute.
What kind of car is he?
1715
01:30:23,893 --> 01:30:25,087
We were filming another
Naked Gun movie,
1716
01:30:25,394 --> 01:30:28,260
and it was the first time
I can remember him being
1717
01:30:28,664 --> 01:30:30,858
just in one of the foulest moods ever.
1718
01:30:32,001 --> 01:30:33,832
And he said, "It's just Nicole bullshit."
1719
01:30:34,002 --> 01:30:35,800
First of all, he broke
the back door down
1720
01:30:35,905 --> 01:30:36,837
to get in before...
1721
01:30:36,939 --> 01:30:37,997
Okay. Wait a minute.
What's your name?
1722
01:30:38,107 --> 01:30:39,165
Nicole Simpson.
1723
01:30:39,308 --> 01:30:41,902
Okay. Is he the sportscaster
or whatever?
1724
01:30:42,111 --> 01:30:43,169
- Yeah.
- Okay.
1725
01:30:43,278 --> 01:30:44,246
Thank you.
1726
01:30:44,380 --> 01:30:45,813
My ex-girlfriend approached him
on the movie set
1727
01:30:45,948 --> 01:30:47,608
and said some
very disparaging things
1728
01:30:47,716 --> 01:30:49,048
about Nicole and myself,
1729
01:30:49,751 --> 01:30:52,380
so I knewthat O.J. Was gonna
take it out on Nicole.
1730
01:30:52,822 --> 01:30:53,846
Wait a minute,
we're sending police.
1731
01:30:53,956 --> 01:30:55,082
What is he doing?
Is he threatening you?
1732
01:30:55,791 --> 01:30:57,349
I... He's fucking going nuts.
1733
01:30:58,260 --> 01:31:00,990
You're gonna hear him in a minute.
He's about to come in again.
1734
01:31:01,162 --> 01:31:02,152
Okay, just stay on the line...
1735
01:31:02,298 --> 01:31:03,196
I don't wanna stay on the line.
1736
01:31:03,299 --> 01:31:04,391
He's gonna beat the shit
out of me.
1737
01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:05,928
Wait a minute, would you?
Just stay on the line,
1738
01:31:06,035 --> 01:31:08,265
so we can know what's going on
'til the police get there, okay?
1739
01:31:08,771 --> 01:31:09,396
(Nicole sighs)
1740
01:31:10,039 --> 01:31:12,974
It wasn't until years later
that I actually sat down,
1741
01:31:13,075 --> 01:31:14,906
and I had even listened
to the 911 call.
1742
01:31:15,344 --> 01:31:18,643
I knew different voices for Nicole,
and she wasn't mad,
1743
01:31:19,180 --> 01:31:20,045
she definitely wasn't drunk.
1744
01:31:20,983 --> 01:31:22,007
She's terrified.
1745
01:31:22,117 --> 01:31:25,417
And that was heartbreaking.
That was heartbreaking.
1746
01:31:25,855 --> 01:31:26,685
- Okay, Nicole.
- Uh-huh?
1747
01:31:27,790 --> 01:31:29,121
Just a moment.
Does he have any weapons?
1748
01:31:29,425 --> 01:31:30,255
I don't know.
1749
01:31:30,893 --> 01:31:31,723
Okay.
1750
01:31:31,894 --> 01:31:33,088
He went home,
and now he's back.
1751
01:31:33,429 --> 01:31:36,728
The kids are up there sleeping,
and I don't want anything to happen.
1752
01:31:36,866 --> 01:31:37,957
Okay, just a moment.
1753
01:31:39,268 --> 01:31:41,202
When you hear O.J.'s voice,
what do you hear?
1754
01:31:43,205 --> 01:31:44,069
Rage.
1755
01:31:53,314 --> 01:31:54,805
Is he inside right now?
1756
01:31:54,950 --> 01:31:56,314
- Yes. Yes.
- Okay, just a moment.
1757
01:32:02,191 --> 01:32:06,251
All units, a domestic violence
at 325 Gretna Green Way...
1758
01:32:06,462 --> 01:32:08,725
(Indistinct shouting)
1759
01:32:09,331 --> 01:32:11,196
O.J., the kids are sleeping.
1760
01:32:21,811 --> 01:32:23,210
Is he upset with something
that you did?
1761
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,738
Oh, a long time ago.
It always comes back.
1762
01:32:30,052 --> 01:32:31,814
Has this happened before or no?
1763
01:32:31,987 --> 01:32:32,817
Many times.
1764
01:32:32,955 --> 01:32:33,785
Okay.
1765
01:32:37,827 --> 01:32:38,794
The police should be on the way.
1766
01:32:38,894 --> 01:32:39,952
It just seems like a long time
1767
01:32:40,095 --> 01:32:43,030
because it's kind of busy
in that division right now.
1768
01:32:49,071 --> 01:32:53,201
When she left him for good,
she called me, and she's like,
1769
01:32:53,341 --> 01:32:55,742
"Yep, this is it, Robin."
1770
01:32:56,345 --> 01:33:00,076
She said,
"This is it. I'm done. I'm done."
1771
01:33:00,182 --> 01:33:02,343
She goes, "I don't even... I have no
feeling for him whatsoever anymore.
1772
01:33:02,451 --> 01:33:03,281
It's just over."
1773
01:33:04,420 --> 01:33:07,218
She was free,
and she was happy without him,
1774
01:33:07,990 --> 01:33:11,823
and I think he knew
it was really over.
1775
01:33:15,164 --> 01:33:17,826
The day she changed,
it was like a light switch.
1776
01:33:18,300 --> 01:33:22,031
He spiraled, from that day on.
Everything was different.
1777
01:33:22,571 --> 01:33:25,131
Who he was, that persona,
everything was gone.
1778
01:33:26,242 --> 01:33:31,975
She wasn't chasing him anymore
and it... it spun him out.
1779
01:33:33,549 --> 01:33:36,541
We all believed that right toward
the very end when, uh,
1780
01:33:36,852 --> 01:33:38,513
they had split up,
after Mother's Day,
1781
01:33:38,821 --> 01:33:40,412
that Nicole was not
seeing Marcus again.
1782
01:33:40,890 --> 01:33:42,414
I absolutely believed that she was.
1783
01:33:43,292 --> 01:33:45,157
And O.J. Told Nicole,
1784
01:33:45,260 --> 01:33:47,286
"You ever see Marcus again,
I will kill you."
1785
01:33:50,399 --> 01:33:54,563
This was obviously "I'm...
I'm gonna get back at you, O.J.
1786
01:33:54,970 --> 01:33:57,131
I don't care what it takes,
I'm gonna humiliate you."
1787
01:34:00,009 --> 01:34:01,305
If she did it,
1788
01:34:01,609 --> 01:34:04,909
it was more for her own
personal rebellion,
1789
01:34:05,414 --> 01:34:07,882
it was more for her
saying to herself,
1790
01:34:08,483 --> 01:34:12,010
"I'm gonna date who I want,
I'm gonna go where I want,
1791
01:34:12,153 --> 01:34:15,817
I'm gonna be friends
with who I want. I'm free.
1792
01:34:16,591 --> 01:34:19,823
You have lost me, O.J.
Watch me run."
1793
01:34:22,898 --> 01:34:24,456
I think there was something
about her
1794
01:34:24,599 --> 01:34:27,966
that was almost
unattainable to him.
1795
01:34:29,939 --> 01:34:32,339
Something that he couldn't
quite control.
1796
01:34:38,107 --> 01:34:41,234
And I think that that was
part of the attraction.
1797
01:34:41,234 --> 01:34:45,898
And I think, in the final analysis,
that's what got her killed.
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