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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:02,170 [music playing] 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:12,980 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,081 --> 00:00:16,684 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:16,784 --> 00:00:19,420 [music playing] 8 00:00:20,921 --> 00:00:23,591 Tonight, a special edition of "Unsolved 9 00:00:23,691 --> 00:00:28,662 Mysteries" from the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas. 10 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:33,534 In 1836, 189 brave men made a gallant last stand 11 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:37,105 at the Alamo, holding off 6,000 Mexican soldiers 12 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:38,772 for nearly two weeks. 13 00:00:38,872 --> 00:00:42,243 In the end, the defenders would all die. 14 00:00:42,343 --> 00:00:44,778 But according to legend, they left behind an unclaimed 15 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:48,682 legacy, possibly a fortune in gold and silver buried 16 00:00:48,782 --> 00:00:50,851 at the bottom of an old well. 17 00:00:50,951 --> 00:00:56,490 Incredibly, some believe it was more than just a legend. 18 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:59,360 For almost a month, a team of archeologists and researchers 19 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,495 have been excavating here in an attempt to uncover 20 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,931 the secrets of the Alamo. 21 00:01:04,031 --> 00:01:06,267 What, if anything, will they find-- 22 00:01:06,367 --> 00:01:09,170 a legendary hidden treasure, or perhaps 23 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:14,175 priceless artifacts from history lost for nearly 160 years? 24 00:01:14,275 --> 00:01:15,576 In the next hour, we'll bring you 25 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:21,982 this fascinating story, as well as these intriguing mysteries. 26 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:24,552 In Sulphur, Louisiana, intruders broke 27 00:01:24,652 --> 00:01:26,920 into a comfortable suburban home and murdered 28 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:30,291 a prominent young couple, Pam and Eric Ellender. 29 00:01:30,391 --> 00:01:33,427 Four years later, Pam's father, Huey Littleton, 30 00:01:33,527 --> 00:01:37,265 is still searching for the truth behind the brutal deaths. 31 00:01:37,365 --> 00:01:39,767 The investigation has taken Huey into the depths 32 00:01:39,867 --> 00:01:42,503 of a bizarre ritualistic subculture, 33 00:01:42,603 --> 00:01:44,405 and led him to believe that his daughter 34 00:01:44,505 --> 00:01:49,577 and son-in-law were killed by members of a satanic cult. 35 00:01:49,677 --> 00:01:52,680 When Denise Williams was 17, she fell in love with an older 36 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:54,848 man named Randall Utterback. 37 00:01:54,948 --> 00:01:57,818 She says she also fell victim to a terrifying spiral 38 00:01:57,918 --> 00:02:02,055 of abuse, which allegedly culminated in a vicious attack. 39 00:02:02,156 --> 00:02:04,225 Now the authorities need your help to bring 40 00:02:04,325 --> 00:02:08,095 Randall Utterback to justice. 41 00:02:08,196 --> 00:02:10,431 Join me for this special edition, 42 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:15,403 the secrets of the Alamo and more on "Unsolved Mysteries." 43 00:02:15,503 --> 00:02:18,406 [music playing] 44 00:03:14,328 --> 00:03:17,898 Remember the Alamo, that famous battle cry that echoes 45 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:21,935 across the fields of time, a lasting tribute to freedom, 46 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:24,438 liberty, and independence. 47 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:26,840 But some believe the full story of the Alamo 48 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:30,210 has yet to be told. 49 00:03:30,311 --> 00:03:32,680 Legend has it that in the shadow of the old mission 50 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:35,416 an intriguing secret remains buried, 51 00:03:35,516 --> 00:03:38,286 a secret which dates back to 1836, 52 00:03:38,386 --> 00:03:39,653 the year of the epic battle. 53 00:03:44,525 --> 00:03:47,127 That January, a group of rugged frontiersmen 54 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:51,064 made their way across the vast prairie of southern Texas. 55 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:52,833 By some accounts, they were loaded down 56 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:55,068 with a fortune in silver and gold, 57 00:03:55,168 --> 00:03:58,339 legendary San Saba treasure, said to be worth 58 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:01,575 millions of dollars. 59 00:04:01,675 --> 00:04:03,944 The men were bound for the Alamo. 60 00:04:04,044 --> 00:04:07,080 The treasure was intended to finance the Texas Revolution 61 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:08,516 for independence from Mexico. 62 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:13,053 The leader of the expedition was a man 63 00:04:13,153 --> 00:04:16,357 named Jim Bowie, a Colonel in the Texas cavalry 64 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:18,726 and renowned throughout the west for the hunting knife 65 00:04:18,826 --> 00:04:22,330 which would later bear his name. 66 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:25,933 Two months later, Bowie and 188 other men, 67 00:04:26,033 --> 00:04:28,636 including Davy Crockett, would make a courageous stand 68 00:04:28,736 --> 00:04:33,407 against 6,000 well-trained Mexican soldiers at the Alamo. 69 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:36,377 Not one of the Defenders would live to tell the tale, 70 00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:38,712 but the legend of the treasure would endure. 71 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:44,117 Today, all that remains of the Alamo 72 00:04:44,217 --> 00:04:46,954 is the old hallowed chapel. 73 00:04:47,054 --> 00:04:49,857 Here on the grounds of the plaza, history comes alive. 74 00:04:49,957 --> 00:04:54,061 You can almost hear the cannon shot and the charge of cavalry. 75 00:04:54,161 --> 00:04:57,365 You can also feel the excitement of discovery. 76 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:00,300 Just a few feet from where I'm standing, legend and science 77 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:03,070 have crossed paths with an unsolved mystery. 78 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:10,578 For the past three weeks, a team of archeologists 79 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:12,846 and researchers has been excavating the street 80 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:15,148 just in front of the Alamo. 81 00:05:15,248 --> 00:05:17,117 What will they find? 82 00:05:17,217 --> 00:05:21,755 Perhaps nothing, perhaps the legendary San Saba treasure, 83 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:24,291 or perhaps priceless artifacts from the battle, 84 00:05:24,392 --> 00:05:28,228 untouched for nearly 160 years. 85 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,297 The dig is a culmination of a dream 86 00:05:30,398 --> 00:05:33,534 for Frank Buschbacher, a professional fortune hunter 87 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:36,737 and historical researcher. 88 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:39,106 [inaudible] 89 00:05:39,206 --> 00:05:42,610 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank's quest began in 1986. 90 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:46,046 On a trip to Colima, Mexico, he was introduced to Maria Gomez, 91 00:05:46,146 --> 00:05:50,451 a respected museum curator who also had a reputation as a seer 92 00:05:50,551 --> 00:05:51,385 and prophetess. 93 00:05:52,653 --> 00:05:55,656 [speaking spanish] 94 00:05:55,756 --> 00:05:59,627 Did you know that there is a treasure buried at the Alamo? 95 00:05:59,727 --> 00:06:01,629 FRANK BUSCHBACHER: I never heard of any treasure surrounding 96 00:06:01,729 --> 00:06:02,730 the battle of the Alamo. 97 00:06:02,830 --> 00:06:05,899 It is just a valiant battle that was lost. 98 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:09,837 And then she went on to describe it as gold coins, 99 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:13,641 artifacts, silver artifacts. 100 00:06:13,741 --> 00:06:15,409 Religious artifacts is what she described them as. 101 00:06:16,777 --> 00:06:19,179 Santana took part of the treasure that was buried. 102 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,380 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Frank was 103 00:06:20,481 --> 00:06:22,215 told that some of the treasure had been removed 104 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:25,318 by Mexican soldiers, but the bulk of the fortune 105 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:27,921 still remained hidden at the Alamo. 106 00:06:28,021 --> 00:06:29,089 MAN: She's going to draw you a map. 107 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:33,360 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This is the crude map 108 00:06:33,461 --> 00:06:35,829 sketched out by Maria Gomez. 109 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:38,398 She predicted that the treasure would be found here 110 00:06:38,499 --> 00:06:40,968 at the bottom of an old well. 111 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:43,771 Even though Maria said she had never been to the Alamo, 112 00:06:43,871 --> 00:06:46,507 she had approximated the spot where a well was 113 00:06:46,607 --> 00:06:50,444 dug just prior to the siege. 114 00:06:50,544 --> 00:06:54,114 At the time, the Alamo grounds covered nearly three acres. 115 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:57,918 The chapel was located in the rear of the fortification. 116 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,288 The well was in the plaza, which was enclosed by stone walls 117 00:07:01,388 --> 00:07:02,556 up to 12 feet high. 118 00:07:02,656 --> 00:07:04,892 [music playing] 119 00:07:04,992 --> 00:07:06,326 [gunfire] 120 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:08,929 It was within those walls that the Texans 121 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:13,166 held out for a full 13 days. 122 00:07:13,266 --> 00:07:16,003 The defenders repulsed one advance after another. 123 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:19,773 But in the end, 189 men could not stave 124 00:07:19,873 --> 00:07:24,377 off 6,000 Mexican soldiers. 125 00:07:24,478 --> 00:07:28,181 Frank Buschbacher believed that in a final act of desperation, 126 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:30,350 Jim Bowie ordered that the treasure be hidden 127 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,986 at the bottom of the well, thus saving 128 00:07:33,086 --> 00:07:35,022 it to finance the war effort. 129 00:07:37,424 --> 00:07:38,826 FRANK BUSCHBACHER: The only way they preserve 130 00:07:38,926 --> 00:07:41,829 it is to all stick together and fight the battle out 131 00:07:41,929 --> 00:07:45,533 to whatever outcome it had. 132 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:48,468 This really was the first bank of Texas, the first cache 133 00:07:48,569 --> 00:07:51,905 of precious metals that would have bought them their arms 134 00:07:52,005 --> 00:07:54,007 and uniforms they needed. 135 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:55,543 [gunfire] 136 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:57,911 The reason why it's remained there 137 00:07:58,011 --> 00:07:59,046 is because everybody died. 138 00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:01,481 [gunfire] 139 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:10,991 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Alamo 140 00:08:11,091 --> 00:08:13,627 is now preserved as an historic landmark in the heart 141 00:08:13,727 --> 00:08:16,530 of downtown San Antonio, Texas. 142 00:08:16,630 --> 00:08:20,067 Frank believes that the treasure will be found beneath the road 143 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:23,036 that fronts the chapel. 144 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:26,807 To many native Texans, however, Buschbacher's theory is little 145 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:30,210 more than revisionist history. 146 00:08:30,310 --> 00:08:31,679 GAIL LOVING BARNES: The people of the Alamo, 147 00:08:31,779 --> 00:08:34,181 I don't think they were guarding a treasure. 148 00:08:34,281 --> 00:08:36,283 When your life is on the line like it 149 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:38,919 was in the battle with General Santa Anna, 150 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:41,755 I don't think you're thinking about silver or gold bullion. 151 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:44,324 I think you're thinking about your life. 152 00:08:44,424 --> 00:08:46,426 And I don't think you would be polluting your water 153 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:49,897 well, because you don't know how long your siege is going to be. 154 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:54,134 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Despite the controversy, 155 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:57,838 Frank Buschbacher was determined to prove his point. 156 00:08:57,938 --> 00:09:01,408 In 1992, he obtained permission to survey the area 157 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:03,443 with ground-penetrating radar. 158 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,544 MAN: OK, we've got a void. 159 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:05,679 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The test 160 00:09:05,779 --> 00:09:07,214 yielded intriguing results. 161 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:09,549 So we've got a nice little area there, 162 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:10,984 about 3 to 4 meters down. 163 00:09:11,084 --> 00:09:13,687 It looks to be maybe a covered over cistern. 164 00:09:13,787 --> 00:09:15,989 That's all strictly conjecture, but this 165 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:19,026 is a very good looking target. 166 00:09:19,126 --> 00:09:20,794 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Three separate disturbances 167 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:23,931 or anomalies were found beneath the surface. 168 00:09:24,031 --> 00:09:25,633 The largest-- which Frank believes 169 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:27,267 is the site of the well-- 170 00:09:27,367 --> 00:09:30,370 is in the precise location where Maria Gomez predicted 171 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:32,806 the treasure would be found. 172 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:36,710 Further tests revealed an object 18 to 24 inches in diameter 173 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:39,713 at a depth of approximately 13 feet. 174 00:09:39,813 --> 00:09:41,682 The object is metallic, but it is 175 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:45,118 not a natural mineral deposit. 176 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:47,554 FRANK BUSCHBACHER: It was a chill that ran down my back. 177 00:09:47,655 --> 00:09:51,024 It kind of brought all my research to fruition 178 00:09:51,124 --> 00:09:55,328 at that point, because I knew that with the map, her story, 179 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:57,698 and then plugging it into Texas history 180 00:09:57,798 --> 00:10:01,769 that I was on a hot trail, and all-- 181 00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:03,904 any dissension that I had within my own mind 182 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:07,407 about whether I should follow this any further was gone. 183 00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:10,377 The anomalies could be caused by many things. 184 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:14,247 I think it could be debris, equipment left 185 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:18,385 by the Texans, either army. 186 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:22,089 I think it could be something several years 187 00:10:22,189 --> 00:10:24,024 later that was deposited there. 188 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:28,528 You know, as time marches on, dust, and dirt, and silt, 189 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:31,064 and debris accumulate and cover very gradually 190 00:10:31,164 --> 00:10:32,733 so that we do not know. 191 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:36,003 And I think that probably that could be part of what 192 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:39,740 they're picking up out there. 193 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,375 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): What did the ground radar detect? 194 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:45,178 Is it possible that the legendary San Saba treasure 195 00:10:45,278 --> 00:10:49,950 does exist, or could the anomaly be some long-lost artifact 196 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:51,885 from the battle? 197 00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:54,154 Whatever the case, Frank Buschbacher 198 00:10:54,254 --> 00:10:57,124 was determined to find out. 199 00:10:57,224 --> 00:10:59,526 Frank would spend 3 and 1/2 years acquiring 200 00:10:59,626 --> 00:11:01,862 the necessary permits and financial backing 201 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:04,497 to excavate the site. 202 00:11:04,597 --> 00:11:07,167 In 1994, the archeology department 203 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:09,837 at St. Mary's University in San Antonio 204 00:11:09,937 --> 00:11:12,339 agreed to oversee the digging. 205 00:11:12,439 --> 00:11:13,841 What we have here is another [inaudible].. 206 00:11:13,941 --> 00:11:15,375 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The project director 207 00:11:15,475 --> 00:11:17,544 is Professor Thomas Guderjan. 208 00:11:17,644 --> 00:11:20,613 He believes that no matter what lies at the bottom of the well, 209 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:22,515 it will have historical significance 210 00:11:22,615 --> 00:11:26,219 that you cannot put a price on. 211 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:28,588 THOMAS GUDERJAN: There's a whole series of possibilities of what 212 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:31,558 we may find, whether it's treasure-- 213 00:11:31,658 --> 00:11:34,427 as in gold, and silver, and that sort of thing-- 214 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:38,932 or whether it is materials that were thrown into the well 215 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:41,668 during the battle, materials that were thrown into the well 216 00:11:41,769 --> 00:11:43,270 during the cleanup after the battle. 217 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:46,039 It doesn't make any difference to us while we're looking at it 218 00:11:46,139 --> 00:11:47,908 in a historical perspective. 219 00:11:48,008 --> 00:11:50,210 Whatever it is, it's a time capsule. 220 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:52,512 It's the only opportunity we have-- 221 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:53,781 that we know of-- 222 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:56,884 to find something related to those few short months 223 00:11:56,984 --> 00:11:59,386 and the few short days of the battle itself. 224 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:05,658 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On February 1, 1995, 225 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:07,594 the moment had finally arrived. 226 00:12:07,694 --> 00:12:10,330 The dig was set to begin. 227 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:12,699 Frank Buschbacher and two of his colleagues-- 228 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,201 Jim Rowe and Tim McClure-- 229 00:12:14,301 --> 00:12:17,170 plotted last minute changes to the schedule. 230 00:12:17,270 --> 00:12:21,341 The plans called for excavating a 15 by 15 foot area 231 00:12:21,441 --> 00:12:22,810 directly above the well. 232 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:28,048 A work crew must first remove three feet of flagstone 233 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:31,251 and road bed to reach the 1836 ground level, 234 00:12:31,351 --> 00:12:34,154 the top of the filled-in well. 235 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:36,189 Proceeding carefully with hand tools, 236 00:12:36,289 --> 00:12:39,059 the workers will then remove decades of dirt and debris 237 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:43,196 from the nine foot deep shaft. 238 00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:45,165 [grinding] 239 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:48,701 THOMAS GUDERJAN: One thing for certain 240 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:51,805 is that there's something down there. 241 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:56,109 Whether there's gold or silver or old rifles down there, 242 00:12:56,209 --> 00:12:58,011 that's not what's really important. 243 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:01,314 What's really important is that we're going to find 244 00:13:01,414 --> 00:13:03,416 out about what happened. 245 00:13:03,516 --> 00:13:05,718 GAIL LOVING BARNES: I'm interested in what he finds. 246 00:13:05,819 --> 00:13:09,289 And if it's a treasure, that will be very exciting. 247 00:13:09,389 --> 00:13:12,792 If it's a cannon ball or part of a cannon-- 248 00:13:12,893 --> 00:13:14,461 you know, metal like that-- 249 00:13:14,561 --> 00:13:16,029 that'll be interesting to know about. 250 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:17,197 It'll be another part of history. 251 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:19,699 What we do know about that ground 252 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,135 is it hasn't been disturbed since the battle. 253 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:25,038 And we have a time capsule down there no matter what it is. 254 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:26,639 And it is a treasure, no matter what it is. 255 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:30,077 Well, what do you think? 256 00:13:30,177 --> 00:13:31,544 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): For the entire team and hundreds 257 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:33,746 of onlookers, it was a day of boundless joy 258 00:13:33,847 --> 00:13:36,383 and nervous anticipation. 259 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:39,519 As layer after layer of history was peeled away, 260 00:13:39,619 --> 00:13:42,489 the archeologists traveled back through time 261 00:13:42,589 --> 00:13:44,457 to the final days of the Alamo. 262 00:13:49,496 --> 00:13:52,365 [music playing] 263 00:14:11,251 --> 00:14:14,988 When we return, perhaps you can help track down this man 264 00:14:15,088 --> 00:14:19,659 accused of kidnapping his former girlfriend? 265 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:22,629 [music playing] 266 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:32,105 January 1994, an isolated country road just 267 00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:35,208 outside a small Missouri town with the unlikely name 268 00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:37,978 of Mexico. 269 00:14:38,078 --> 00:14:38,878 Ah! 270 00:14:43,917 --> 00:14:45,618 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The young woman under attack 271 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:46,853 is Denise Williams. 272 00:14:46,954 --> 00:14:48,355 She is 19. 273 00:14:48,455 --> 00:14:50,857 The man with the gun is her ex-boyfriend, 274 00:14:50,958 --> 00:14:53,927 31-year-old Randall Utterback. 275 00:14:54,027 --> 00:14:56,496 They had met a year and a half earlier at a party 276 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:58,932 after Denise's senior prom. 277 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:01,468 To the naive 17-year-old school girl, 278 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:04,972 Randall seemed exotic and dashing, just dangerous enough 279 00:15:05,072 --> 00:15:06,739 to be exciting. 280 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:08,008 So I'm glad you had a good time. 281 00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:09,042 Yeah. 282 00:15:09,142 --> 00:15:09,542 I think my friends really liked you. 283 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:10,877 Oh, good. 284 00:15:10,978 --> 00:15:13,013 DENISE WILLIAMS: I met Randall a week before graduation. 285 00:15:13,113 --> 00:15:14,814 I just thought he was the cutest thing. 286 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:18,318 And he had been known around town for his motorcycles, 287 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:21,154 and he owned a mountain lion at the time. 288 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:25,092 And everyone had talked real highly of him. 289 00:15:25,192 --> 00:15:27,394 He was really outgoing, a really spontaneous, 290 00:15:27,494 --> 00:15:29,729 spur of the moment, let's go do this. 291 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:33,900 He would take me out to nice places and concerts. 292 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:36,836 And then after two weeks of Randall and I being together, 293 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:37,737 it all changed. 294 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:41,641 It was gradual. 295 00:15:41,741 --> 00:15:45,812 He started out saying don't wear make up, don't wear hairspray, 296 00:15:45,912 --> 00:15:47,847 don't wear perfume. 297 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,517 And then it grew to don't hang out with this person, 298 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:53,520 don't be friends with her because she's a bad influence. 299 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:54,921 You're going to have to choose them or me. 300 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,794 Denise Williams had gotten in way over her head. 301 00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:04,097 According to Denise, Randall Utterback-- 302 00:16:04,197 --> 00:16:05,632 older and more worldly-- 303 00:16:05,732 --> 00:16:08,368 quickly established an abusive pattern, 304 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:11,038 denigrating her, rejecting her, and then putting 305 00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:13,340 on a great show of forgiveness. 306 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,409 But Randall has seen that love equaled possession. 307 00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:19,146 Once he had Denise, he was not about to let go. 308 00:16:23,616 --> 00:16:26,186 When Denise went away to college three months after meeting 309 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,088 Randall, she hoped the distance would 310 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:29,822 improve their relationship. 311 00:16:29,922 --> 00:16:32,492 But Randall only became more obsessive. 312 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:34,261 [inaudible] 313 00:16:34,361 --> 00:16:35,695 Oh, Randall, you scared me. 314 00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:38,998 Denise, hey, I called you this morning. 315 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:39,899 Where were you? 316 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,268 I had to go to class. 317 00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:42,802 Yeah, I know, but you said you'd wait for my phone call. 318 00:16:42,902 --> 00:16:43,670 [inaudible] 319 00:16:43,770 --> 00:16:44,504 DENISE WILLIAMS: Randall was very 320 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:47,074 controlling and manipulative. 321 00:16:47,174 --> 00:16:49,142 I'd have to call Randall if I was going down 322 00:16:49,242 --> 00:16:54,013 to the cafeteria, just in case Randall called and I wasn't 323 00:16:54,114 --> 00:16:55,982 there to accept his phone call. 324 00:16:56,083 --> 00:16:57,850 He'd think I'd be out with some other people 325 00:16:57,950 --> 00:16:59,519 or having friends, doing something 326 00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:00,553 that I wasn't supposed to do. 327 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:04,057 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Denise's family 328 00:17:04,157 --> 00:17:07,227 was shocked when Randall talked her into leaving school. 329 00:17:07,327 --> 00:17:10,330 She enrolled at a community college closer to home 330 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:11,398 and closer to Randall. 331 00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:17,737 He had me convinced he was the only one there for me, 332 00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:20,240 because he had gotten me so isolated 333 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:24,844 from my family and my friends to where he would tell me 334 00:17:24,944 --> 00:17:27,447 I am the only one here for you. 335 00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:30,517 You know, you need me in your life. 336 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:32,085 And I got to the point where I'd-- where 337 00:17:32,185 --> 00:17:33,620 I started to believe that. 338 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,021 You're doing it wrong. It's backwards. 339 00:17:35,122 --> 00:17:35,955 You've got to flip it over. 340 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:37,023 No, I didn't. It looks fine. 341 00:17:37,124 --> 00:17:38,291 It's just the way it is. 342 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:39,259 Look, Denise, I'm just trying to help you, all right? 343 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Do you want my help or not? 344 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:42,329 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Several months passed. 345 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:44,497 The abusive pattern continued. 346 00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:47,700 Finally, Denise reached her breaking point. 347 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,969 Are you calling me a liar, Denise? 348 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:51,238 Randall, I'm not calling you a liar. 349 00:17:51,338 --> 00:17:52,872 I'm just telling you this is the way it looks. 350 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:53,773 You're an idiot. 351 00:17:53,873 --> 00:17:54,674 You know that? 352 00:17:54,774 --> 00:17:55,842 You stupid bi-- 353 00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:57,043 Please calm down. 354 00:17:57,144 --> 00:17:58,044 There's people watching. 355 00:17:58,145 --> 00:17:58,945 Yeah? 356 00:17:59,045 --> 00:18:00,880 Well, I don't really care! 357 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:01,948 Randall, [inaudible]. 358 00:18:02,048 --> 00:18:03,550 DENISE WILLIAMS: I would be called names. 359 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:06,052 I'd be tore down. 360 00:18:06,153 --> 00:18:09,689 I wasn't allowed to have an opinion with Randall. 361 00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:11,458 That's it, Denise. 362 00:18:11,558 --> 00:18:12,359 That's it. 363 00:18:12,459 --> 00:18:13,393 I've had it! 364 00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:14,294 We're finished! 365 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:20,400 I was relieved. 366 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,536 I wanted to get away from him. 367 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:27,740 I had just had enough. 368 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,542 I told them-- I told Randall we were through. 369 00:18:29,642 --> 00:18:30,877 - He's crazy. - Better than Fitzgerald was. 370 00:18:30,977 --> 00:18:32,212 Yeah, I mean, [inaudible]. 371 00:18:32,312 --> 00:18:33,813 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Randall was stunned when Denise 372 00:18:33,913 --> 00:18:35,081 did not come crawling back. 373 00:18:35,182 --> 00:18:36,216 Denise. 374 00:18:36,316 --> 00:18:36,983 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He couldn't abide 375 00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:38,218 her newfound independence. 376 00:18:38,318 --> 00:18:39,986 Randall, I just don't want to see you anymore, OK? 377 00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:41,154 RANDALL UTTERBACK: I've been upset. 378 00:18:41,254 --> 00:18:42,355 I-- I can't sleep. 379 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:43,423 DENISE WILLIAMS: No, Randall, don't you get it? 380 00:18:43,523 --> 00:18:44,457 Just give me five minutes, Denise, please. 381 00:18:44,557 --> 00:18:45,792 DENISE WILLIAMS: Just leave me alone. 382 00:18:45,892 --> 00:18:46,993 Just give me five minutes. I just need to talk to you. 383 00:18:47,093 --> 00:18:48,295 DENISE WILLIAMS: [inaudible] Just leave me alone. 384 00:18:48,395 --> 00:18:49,296 - Hey, just leave her alone. - Just get out of my way. 385 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:49,962 Is this what you mean? - [inaudible] 386 00:18:50,062 --> 00:18:54,701 [interposing voices] 387 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:56,135 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Randall Utterback 388 00:18:56,236 --> 00:18:57,970 would not go peaceably. 389 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:59,906 Denise says he began to follow her, 390 00:19:00,006 --> 00:19:03,643 to stalk her, waiting until she was alone and vulnerable. 391 00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:07,079 What are you doing? 392 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:08,548 [honking] 393 00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:15,888 [crashing] 394 00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:20,327 DENISE WILLIAMS: Randall hit the back of my car, 395 00:19:20,427 --> 00:19:21,861 and it ran me off the road. 396 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:25,632 He come over to my car, and then he dragged me over to his dad's 397 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:27,267 truck to go with him. 398 00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:30,337 And he told me that if I didn't take him back, 399 00:19:30,437 --> 00:19:32,639 something bad would happen to someone I love. 400 00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,511 He wanted me to marry him. 401 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:40,012 I told Randall I wouldn't marry him. 402 00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:43,716 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Randall Utterback 403 00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:45,785 was arrested for felonious restraint 404 00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:47,086 and aggravated stalking. 405 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,656 Hey, listen, the sheriff said I could call my lawyer 406 00:19:49,756 --> 00:19:50,890 and let him know I'm here. 407 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:52,592 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He was in jail for a week 408 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:53,926 before posting bond. 409 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:57,397 A restraining order was issued barring him from seeing 410 00:19:57,497 --> 00:19:58,931 or talking to Denise. 411 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:03,603 [inaudible] 412 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:04,871 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): For a month, 413 00:20:04,971 --> 00:20:06,072 Randall obeyed the order. 414 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,407 Hey, Jane. 415 00:20:07,507 --> 00:20:09,242 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Denise finally began to remember 416 00:20:09,342 --> 00:20:11,311 what a normal life was like. 417 00:20:11,411 --> 00:20:13,580 But she had let down her guard too soon. 418 00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:21,588 DENISE WILLIAMS: I was driving home from school 419 00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:23,856 and I saw this black car behind me. 420 00:20:23,956 --> 00:20:24,991 I didn't think it was him. 421 00:20:25,091 --> 00:20:26,092 I thought it was just some school 422 00:20:26,192 --> 00:20:28,628 kids driving home from school. 423 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:33,866 Next thing I know, that car pulls up beside me, 424 00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:35,368 and it was Randall. 425 00:20:35,468 --> 00:20:37,003 What-- what are you doing? 426 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:40,540 DENISE WILLIAMS: Again he is motioning me to pull over. 427 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,441 And I wouldn't. 428 00:20:41,541 --> 00:20:44,511 I sped up. 429 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:47,380 And as I sped up, he sped up and went beside me again. 430 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,984 [inaudible] 431 00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:52,885 [gunshot] 432 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,496 Denise-- Denise, get out of the car. 433 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:04,397 Denise? 434 00:21:04,497 --> 00:21:05,898 Denise-- Denise, wait! - Oh. 435 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:06,966 Denise, wait! Denise! 436 00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:07,867 No! 437 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:08,968 [screaming] 438 00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,236 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Denise tried 439 00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:12,171 to spray Randall with mace. 440 00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,874 In the struggle, Randall allegedly bit her hand 441 00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:16,343 and dropped his gun. 442 00:21:16,443 --> 00:21:17,344 Shut up! 443 00:21:17,444 --> 00:21:19,312 [screaming] 444 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:22,315 God, Randall, stop it! 445 00:21:22,415 --> 00:21:25,284 Ah! 446 00:21:25,385 --> 00:21:27,019 Randall, would you please at least 447 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,255 let me get my feet in the car? 448 00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:30,390 Randall? 449 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:32,725 Randall, please, can I get my feet in the car? 450 00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:39,198 [inaudible] What is your problem? 451 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,768 RANDALL UTTERBACK: I just needed to tell you, Denise, that I-- 452 00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:44,471 I love you, and I want you back in my life, OK? 453 00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:45,605 That's all I'm asking for. 454 00:21:45,705 --> 00:21:47,006 No, Randall, I can't. 455 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:49,108 How can you expect me to do that after what you just did to me? 456 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:50,477 DENISE WILLIAMS: I just want to start over. 457 00:21:50,577 --> 00:21:52,345 I just want another chance, and you're just-- you're just 458 00:21:52,445 --> 00:21:54,146 not giving me another chance! And I-- 459 00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:55,047 And I'm not going to give you another chance, Randall. 460 00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:56,282 Damn it, I need to start over! 461 00:21:56,383 --> 00:21:57,850 I need another chance! 462 00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:59,419 Now, give it to me! 463 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:00,520 DENISE WILLIAMS: And then he said 464 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:03,756 that if I wouldn't take him back, 465 00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:06,158 there is no need for him living, and he asked me to kill him. 466 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:13,366 He asked me to stab him through the heart. 467 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:15,602 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Of course, Denise refused. 468 00:22:15,702 --> 00:22:18,037 She pleaded with Randall to stop the car. 469 00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:19,138 RANDALL UTTERBACK: Denise, just-- 470 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:20,840 just tell him it ain't my gun. 471 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:21,774 [inaudible] and look at all those people. 472 00:22:21,874 --> 00:22:22,542 RANDALL UTTERBACK: I know, Denise. 473 00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:23,676 I know. 474 00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:24,444 They're going to figure out that's my car soon 475 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:25,445 and they're not going to-- 476 00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:26,312 RANDALL UTTERBACK: Just wait, Denise. 477 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:27,279 Denise-- Denise, shut up, Denise! 478 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:28,948 God, I hate it when you do that. 479 00:22:31,951 --> 00:22:33,853 All right, look, you just understand this. 480 00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:35,822 If you don't say exactly what I told you to say, 481 00:22:35,922 --> 00:22:37,156 I'm going to take you out of this state, 482 00:22:37,256 --> 00:22:38,290 and you'll never see your family again. 483 00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:42,462 Do you understand that? - Yeah, I understand. 484 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:46,866 I love you. 485 00:22:55,742 --> 00:22:56,776 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Denise's 486 00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:58,511 father and a sheriff's deputy-- 487 00:22:58,611 --> 00:23:00,046 along with several other people-- 488 00:23:00,146 --> 00:23:02,281 had already gathered around Denise's car. 489 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,250 [inaudible] Daddy, [inaudible].. 490 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,418 Denise, honey, are you all right? 491 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:07,253 Oh my god! - Daddy! 492 00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:08,254 Was it Randall? 493 00:23:08,354 --> 00:23:09,321 OK, Denise. 494 00:23:09,422 --> 00:23:10,490 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Even before he 495 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,592 let her speak to her father, the deputy 496 00:23:12,692 --> 00:23:13,760 began to question Denise. 497 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:14,661 It's Randall, daddy. 498 00:23:16,996 --> 00:23:18,297 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He immediately 499 00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:20,933 drove Denise to the emergency room to have her checked out. 500 00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:23,570 I just want to see my dad. 501 00:23:23,670 --> 00:23:24,671 COP: He'll be over there. 502 00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:26,138 He'll be at the hospital when you get there. 503 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:27,173 No, that's him. That's him! 504 00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:28,074 COP: That's Randall? 505 00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:29,041 That's him right there. 506 00:23:29,141 --> 00:23:30,009 COP: All right, OK. 507 00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:32,879 [siren blaring] 508 00:23:32,979 --> 00:23:34,814 Just stay calm, Denise. Stay right there. 509 00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:36,215 Oh, he's going to kill me. 510 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:37,917 COP: You're going to be-- no, you're going to be all right. 511 00:23:38,017 --> 00:23:38,818 You're fine. 512 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:48,427 [inaudible] Open the door! 513 00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:49,929 Keep your hands in the air! 514 00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:51,063 Face away from me! 515 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:52,298 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Randall Utterback 516 00:23:52,398 --> 00:23:54,967 was charged with stalking, felonious restraint, 517 00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:57,770 and with three counts of armed criminal action. 518 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,840 He was imprisoned without bond for six months. 519 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:02,675 Then six months later, he was taken 520 00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:06,112 to the hospital and in-transit managed to escape. 521 00:24:06,212 --> 00:24:10,216 Today, he remains at large. 522 00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:14,386 As of today, I'm still living in fear. 523 00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:18,357 I don't know when he'll come back, 524 00:24:18,457 --> 00:24:21,628 but I have a feeling he will. 525 00:24:21,728 --> 00:24:24,130 I don't live with my parents anymore, 526 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:26,733 because I have a feeling that would be the first place 527 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:29,335 Randall checked for me. 528 00:24:29,435 --> 00:24:30,537 I don't go anywhere by myself. 529 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:34,607 I'm just scared he's going to come back, 530 00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:37,376 and I won't be able to convince him a third time to let me go. 531 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:43,449 Randall Utterback's parents have issued statements, 532 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:45,585 asserting that their son did not commit the acts 533 00:24:45,685 --> 00:24:47,620 of which he is accused. 534 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,589 They say that Denise and the local authorities 535 00:24:49,689 --> 00:24:52,692 are out to assassinate Randall's character. 536 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:54,060 However, the sheriff's department 537 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,728 and two different Missouri counties 538 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:58,230 stand firm in their position that Utterback 539 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:00,432 is a dangerous criminal. 540 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:03,369 [ominous music] 541 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:23,690 Next, a father's desperate quest to find his daughter's killer. 542 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,626 [music playing] 543 00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:35,534 In junior high and high school, Pam Littleton 544 00:25:35,635 --> 00:25:39,205 of Sulphur, Louisiana, was voted most popular, friendliest, 545 00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:42,609 and the prettiest girl. 546 00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:44,076 She was a cheerleader. 547 00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:45,578 She was the homecoming queen. 548 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:52,251 After college, Pam married Eric Ellender, a bright, up 549 00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:55,487 and coming businessman. 550 00:25:55,588 --> 00:25:58,057 The newlyweds bought a house near Pam's parents, 551 00:25:58,157 --> 00:26:02,361 and Eric went to work for Pam's father. 552 00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:06,365 A year later, Pam gave birth to a beautiful baby girl. 553 00:26:06,465 --> 00:26:08,234 The family circle was now complete. 554 00:26:12,939 --> 00:26:15,541 Nearly every day, Pam walked over to her parents' house 555 00:26:15,642 --> 00:26:17,376 for a visit. 556 00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:18,945 She didn't want her mother and father 557 00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:23,616 to miss a moment of their granddaughter's childhood. 558 00:26:23,716 --> 00:26:26,118 HUEY LITTLETON: Pamela, I guess, would be-- 559 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,287 she was the type of daughter that every father would 560 00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:31,557 dream of having, you know? 561 00:26:31,658 --> 00:26:35,261 She had dreamed of being a housewife and a mother. 562 00:26:35,361 --> 00:26:38,264 That was her ambition in life, and she was totally happy. 563 00:26:38,364 --> 00:26:39,231 That's OK. 564 00:26:39,331 --> 00:26:39,999 Mom, I don't think she's hungry. 565 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:40,900 [phone ringing] 566 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,968 Probably more like 11:00. 567 00:26:42,068 --> 00:26:42,935 OK, darling. 568 00:26:43,035 --> 00:26:44,003 Don't worry, I'll cover for you. 569 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,404 OK, all right. 570 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:47,239 Hello? 571 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:51,243 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At 8:45 PM on February 11, 1991, 572 00:26:51,343 --> 00:26:56,015 Pam's husband Eric called her to say he was home from work. 573 00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:57,483 Bye. 574 00:26:57,583 --> 00:26:58,685 Bye. 575 00:26:58,785 --> 00:27:00,019 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Pam left her parents' 576 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,420 house 30 minutes later. 577 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,756 By the next afternoon, no one in the family 578 00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:07,927 had heard from Pam or Eric, which was highly unusual. 579 00:27:08,027 --> 00:27:12,799 Then Huey Littleton got a phone call from his mother-in-law. 580 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:15,001 HUEY LITTLETON: She says, Huey, I 581 00:27:15,101 --> 00:27:19,538 just left Pam and Eric's and something's wrong down there. 582 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,108 They're in their bed. 583 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:24,677 I have the baby and I'm back at your house. 584 00:27:24,777 --> 00:27:27,079 Call the sheriff. 585 00:27:27,179 --> 00:27:29,348 I told her, I said I will call the sheriff 586 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,317 and I will call an ambulance. 587 00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,618 What appears to be the problem? 588 00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:34,453 She said call the sheriff. 589 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:42,561 The sheriff's unit met us at the gate going into the yard 590 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,765 and asked that we not go near the house. 591 00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:53,205 And we learned that Pam and Eric were dead, that both of them 592 00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:58,878 had been brutally shot with a shotgun, 593 00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:02,815 and had a-- the fatal wounds were to their head. 594 00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:04,283 [music playing] 595 00:28:04,383 --> 00:28:06,285 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): There was only one blessing amidst 596 00:28:06,385 --> 00:28:07,619 the horror. 597 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,022 Although traumatized, Pam and Eric's daughter 598 00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:12,391 was physically unharmed. 599 00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:17,229 Still, the Littleton's were left numb with grief. 600 00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:21,834 JOYCE LITTLETON: Absolutely, total, complete shock. 601 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:24,003 Unbelief-- I could not believe it. 602 00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:28,274 I mean, how can you possibly believe your daughter's dead? 603 00:28:28,374 --> 00:28:32,278 It totally immobilized me. 604 00:28:32,378 --> 00:28:33,145 I couldn't cry. 605 00:28:38,384 --> 00:28:42,188 All I could do was say why and who? 606 00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:46,725 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The day after their murders, 607 00:28:46,826 --> 00:28:49,728 18-year-old Chris Prudhomme-- a resident of Sulphur-- 608 00:28:49,829 --> 00:28:53,332 was arrested in Baton Rouge, along with three friends. 609 00:28:53,432 --> 00:28:57,870 They were in possession of Eric Ellender's Toyota 4Runner. 610 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,072 Chris, where was the shotgun? 611 00:29:00,172 --> 00:29:01,808 It was in a case. 612 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:03,409 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Chris Prudhomme became 613 00:29:03,509 --> 00:29:06,946 the focus of the investigation. 614 00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:08,647 Which gun did you use? 615 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,050 The automatic shotgun. 616 00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:12,484 COP: And did you load it? 617 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:15,187 No, it was loaded. 618 00:29:15,287 --> 00:29:18,390 COP: So, what did you do after you got the gun 619 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:20,492 and saw that it was loaded? 620 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,128 I went and shot them. 621 00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:23,930 COP: Who did you shoot first? 622 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:25,031 I shot the guy. 623 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:29,869 HUEY LITTLETON: He confessed under oath that he 624 00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:31,437 had killed Pam and Eric. 625 00:29:31,537 --> 00:29:32,338 Right side bed. 626 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,977 HUEY LITTLETON: That he had no remorse for doing so-- in fact, 627 00:29:38,077 --> 00:29:40,212 was glad that he did so. 628 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:43,515 [music playing] 629 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,417 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 17 days after the murders, 630 00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:47,653 Prudhomme was discovered hanging by the neck 631 00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:49,721 in the jail shower room. 632 00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,491 He never regained consciousness and died in the hospital. 633 00:29:55,194 --> 00:29:58,497 This suicide note was found in his cell. 634 00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:02,168 In the note, Prudhomme took sole credit for the murders saying, 635 00:30:02,268 --> 00:30:05,938 quote, "I enjoyed very much in the taking of those two 636 00:30:06,038 --> 00:30:07,106 individuals' lives." 637 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:12,678 As far as the sheriff's department was concerned, 638 00:30:12,778 --> 00:30:14,847 the case was closed. 639 00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:17,416 They had made an arrest, the suspect had confessed, 640 00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:19,251 then hung himself. 641 00:30:19,351 --> 00:30:21,387 But to Huey Littleton's experienced eye, 642 00:30:21,487 --> 00:30:23,455 loose ends were everywhere. 643 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:25,491 Huey is a licensed private detective 644 00:30:25,591 --> 00:30:27,459 and owns his own company. 645 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,096 Once he began to investigate, he came 646 00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:32,965 to believe that Chris Prudhomme had belonged to a satanic cult 647 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:36,668 called the SKATERS, an acronym for Satan's Kids 648 00:30:36,768 --> 00:30:39,872 Against the Establishment. - OK, Chris was alone. 649 00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:41,173 OK. 650 00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:42,641 He was by himself, as long as we all understand that. 651 00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:43,609 - Yes. - Is he going to talk? 652 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:44,977 Because I'm not going down for this. 653 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:46,112 I'm not, either. 654 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,280 Look, he's not going to talk if he knows better. 655 00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:49,848 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The girlfriend of one 656 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:52,084 of the SKATERS told Huey of a meeting 657 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:55,321 that took place the morning after Pam and Eric were killed. 658 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:57,289 So we've got to come up with something, man. 659 00:30:57,389 --> 00:30:59,258 We know he wasn't alone, but what about the cops? 660 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,060 OK, we've got to get it all straight now. 661 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,461 OK So by himself. 662 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:03,662 He's on foot, right? 663 00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:05,131 He's all high, he doesn't know what he's doing. 664 00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:06,198 Yeah. And then what? 665 00:31:06,298 --> 00:31:07,199 He walk walking through this neighborhood 666 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:08,400 and he sees this house. 667 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:09,468 Right. OK. 668 00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:10,436 So he busts in-- 669 00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:11,770 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The witness 670 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,305 said it appeared that the SKATERS were trying to concoct 671 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:15,741 an alibi for a person or persons who 672 00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:18,978 had been with Chris Prudhomme when the murders occurred. 673 00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:20,146 By himself, right? 674 00:31:26,518 --> 00:31:27,653 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): She went on 675 00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:29,655 to say that Prudhomme and one accomplice 676 00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:33,492 had broken into the Ellenders' house only to burglarize it. 677 00:31:33,592 --> 00:31:35,894 Check this out. 678 00:31:35,995 --> 00:31:37,863 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But they were high on LSD 679 00:31:37,964 --> 00:31:40,299 and ended up murdering Pam and Eric 680 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,667 using one of Eric's shotguns. 681 00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:54,546 I was at a bar that night and I was drinking. 682 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:55,881 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Huey Littleton 683 00:31:55,982 --> 00:31:59,318 felt that many of the crucial facts were still unknown. 684 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:01,653 He continued to interview witnesses, 685 00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:03,455 well over 100 in all. 686 00:32:03,555 --> 00:32:07,193 And they mentioned something about a party, a party that 687 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,895 was just right up the road. 688 00:32:09,996 --> 00:32:11,897 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Huey was stunned when a girl named 689 00:32:11,998 --> 00:32:15,234 Nicki Alderson told him that in the early morning hours just 690 00:32:15,334 --> 00:32:17,503 after the murders, the SKATERS had hosted 691 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:19,805 a party at the crime scene. 692 00:32:19,905 --> 00:32:21,607 Geez, they were doing a whole bunch of stuff. 693 00:32:22,841 --> 00:32:23,842 NICKI ALDERSON: When we got out to this house, 694 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:27,713 I saw some people come in the distance 695 00:32:27,813 --> 00:32:31,883 and when we walked up to them, I realized I knew some of them. 696 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:33,085 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Nikki said 697 00:32:33,185 --> 00:32:35,287 one of the first people she saw at the party 698 00:32:35,387 --> 00:32:38,057 was Chris Prudhomme. 699 00:32:38,157 --> 00:32:39,558 Hey, what's up? 700 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:40,459 Not much. 701 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:41,593 Whose place is this? 702 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:42,494 I don't know. 703 00:32:42,594 --> 00:32:43,429 I don't know right now. 704 00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:44,796 All right. 705 00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:46,398 They were all just stand around drinking 706 00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:52,471 and talking and making remarks about God and things like that. 707 00:32:52,571 --> 00:32:56,908 And we went in and there were people standing around, 708 00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:58,077 there were people sitting down. 709 00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:03,315 You can kind of fell from the vibes of people 710 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,551 that something was kind of weird because everybody 711 00:33:05,651 --> 00:33:08,520 was, like I said, in their own little world. 712 00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:09,921 Here let me see that. 713 00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:16,062 Some were doing some drugs on the table. 714 00:33:16,162 --> 00:33:18,164 They had enough drugs on there where 715 00:33:18,264 --> 00:33:22,668 I could see from a distance of what they were snorting. 716 00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:25,271 Hey, thanks. 717 00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:26,538 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Nicki claims 718 00:33:26,638 --> 00:33:28,840 she had no idea at the time that two 719 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,510 dead bodies were in the house. 720 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:34,246 Only the next day while watching television would 721 00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:36,715 she absorb the full impact of the party. 722 00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:42,421 NICKI ALDERSON: I was watching the news and I saw this house. 723 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:45,191 I was like, oh, my god, I was at that house. 724 00:33:45,291 --> 00:33:49,495 And so I kind of kept quiet and just watched. 725 00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:54,733 And then when I saw the gentlemen that were on TV that 726 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,469 were the suspects, then I knew that was 727 00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:00,306 the guys that was there, that was the people I'd seen. 728 00:34:00,406 --> 00:34:03,709 And I just came to the realization that I was there. 729 00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:06,912 I don't know. 730 00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:11,150 We were asked by Mr. Littleton re-look at the case and we did. 731 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:14,553 And everything that he let us know about we checked 732 00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:17,623 into and found out it was not reliable information 733 00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:22,861 or it didn't have factual information enough 734 00:34:22,961 --> 00:34:25,097 to bring to the district attorney's office. 735 00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:27,065 Also, everything that we reviewed, 736 00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:28,934 the district attorney reviewed and so 737 00:34:29,034 --> 00:34:32,104 has the Attorney General of the State of Louisiana reviewed. 738 00:34:32,204 --> 00:34:34,440 And the facts speak for itself. 739 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:39,145 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The sheriff's department 740 00:34:39,245 --> 00:34:41,180 says they saw no evidence that a party 741 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,249 had been held in the house. 742 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:46,818 However, Huey Littleton found one other person who confirmed 743 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,154 Nicki Alderson's account. 744 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:53,559 This witness added sickening details, 745 00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:56,128 claiming that the dead bodies of Pam and Eric 746 00:34:56,228 --> 00:35:01,300 were molested sexually by more than one person. 747 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,371 Those claims are verified by this man, Chip Richard. 748 00:35:05,471 --> 00:35:08,907 Chip told Huey that although he was not at the Ellender house, 749 00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:11,743 he had seen videotapes which were made that night. 750 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:19,851 I've seen one and I've talked to a couple of other people 751 00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:20,752 that have seen them. 752 00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:26,358 To me, every one of them-- 753 00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:30,028 the people I've talked to that's seen them, it's all the same. 754 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:33,064 They show on the video what I saw 755 00:35:33,165 --> 00:35:38,504 on the video was the people killing the owners, having 756 00:35:38,604 --> 00:35:43,108 sexual contact with them, just basically 757 00:35:43,209 --> 00:35:44,776 everything that really goes on. 758 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:52,017 This is about as low as humanity 759 00:35:52,117 --> 00:35:55,554 can crawl or dig or furrow. 760 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:03,061 Where is their soul? Where is their spirit? 761 00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:08,234 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Huey was now 762 00:36:08,334 --> 00:36:11,036 convinced that the truth behind the murder of his daughter 763 00:36:11,136 --> 00:36:15,907 and son-in-law was far more sinister than he ever imagined. 764 00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:19,245 With Chris Prudhomme dead, 18-year-old Robert Adkins 765 00:36:19,345 --> 00:36:21,747 emerged as a key figure in the case. 766 00:36:21,847 --> 00:36:23,982 Adkins who was one of the three young men 767 00:36:24,082 --> 00:36:27,586 arrested with Prudhomme in Baton Rouge. 768 00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:29,020 Bobby took me in the backyard. 769 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,189 He told me that he wanted to tell me 770 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,858 what had happened because he needed 771 00:36:32,958 --> 00:36:35,861 to get it off of his chest. 772 00:36:35,961 --> 00:36:37,596 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): While out on bail, 773 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:39,798 Adkins allegedly told Shawn Moody 774 00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:43,469 that he was present when Chris Prudhomme killed the Ellenders. 775 00:36:43,569 --> 00:36:45,070 We just-- when we get in, we just headed 776 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:46,037 straight for the living room. 777 00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:47,906 He told me they were looking around 778 00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:51,877 for valuables, him and Chris, and they 779 00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:54,480 had found a gun, a shotgun. 780 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:58,216 And when they entered the master bedroom, the wife woke up. 781 00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:00,319 Chris shot the wife first. 782 00:37:00,419 --> 00:37:03,188 And then the husband had woken and Chris shot him. 783 00:37:06,191 --> 00:37:07,959 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But According to Chip Richard, 784 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:11,430 Adkins said that Chris Prudhomme had not murdered anyone. 785 00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:13,865 Instead, he volunteered to take the fall 786 00:37:13,965 --> 00:37:16,802 for his fellow SKATERS. 787 00:37:16,902 --> 00:37:17,836 Yeah, I was there. 788 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:19,137 What happened? 789 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:20,472 Look, Chris, he-- 790 00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:25,644 He had told me that Chris was taking the rap for him 791 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:29,481 because Chris was becoming the leader in the cult. 792 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:32,551 And just basically, everybody that was with him 793 00:37:32,651 --> 00:37:36,588 worshipped him and would do anything for him. 794 00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:41,793 And in return, he had to do for them the same 795 00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:42,694 that they would do for him. 796 00:37:45,797 --> 00:37:50,369 Kim came to me about one or two days after the murders 797 00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:54,105 and she told me that she was there. 798 00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:55,941 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Finally, Huey Littleton found 799 00:37:56,041 --> 00:37:58,276 a key witness, Pearl Fruge. 800 00:37:58,377 --> 00:37:59,478 Yeah. 801 00:37:59,578 --> 00:38:02,981 She went into a lot of detail about everything-- 802 00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:06,918 about Pam and about Eric and about the baby. 803 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:08,219 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Pearl claimed 804 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,756 that her cousin, Kim Manuel, was in the house 805 00:38:10,856 --> 00:38:13,224 when the murders took place. 806 00:38:13,325 --> 00:38:16,862 She was definitely there. 807 00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:21,299 Do you think we can get her to talk about it on tape? 808 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:27,105 Well, sure, but Kim's my friend, she's my cousin. 809 00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:29,107 I mean, I don't want to do anything 810 00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:30,241 to her behind her back. 811 00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:37,783 Chris and one other girl and another guy were in the house. 812 00:38:37,883 --> 00:38:39,084 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The next day, 813 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:42,954 Pearl did record a conversation with Kim's permission. 814 00:38:43,054 --> 00:38:45,123 Kim described the murders in detail 815 00:38:45,223 --> 00:38:50,261 but never admitted on the tape to being in the house herself. 816 00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:53,865 Chris bumped something and Eric woke up. 817 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:59,505 I guess he went to grab for the gun and Chris shot him. 818 00:38:59,605 --> 00:39:05,110 Then Pam woke up and they shot her. 819 00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:06,812 Chris was going to kill the baby, too, 820 00:39:06,912 --> 00:39:09,815 but the girl told him, no. 821 00:39:09,915 --> 00:39:14,119 She took the baby and brought it into Pam and Eric's room 822 00:39:14,219 --> 00:39:16,455 and laid it down with them. 823 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:17,355 Then she went outside. 824 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:23,795 I think getting through it's about this, Pearl. 825 00:39:23,895 --> 00:39:26,532 What am I supposed to do? 826 00:39:26,632 --> 00:39:27,833 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Pearl thought 827 00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:29,668 the best thing she could do was present 828 00:39:29,768 --> 00:39:32,804 the tape before a grand jury. 829 00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:35,941 And now, the actual tape. 830 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:39,878 PEARL FRUGE: Kim, what really happened that night? 831 00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:43,649 KIM MANUEL: You know he's been calling me and threatening me. 832 00:39:43,749 --> 00:39:45,917 I'm really scared. 833 00:39:46,017 --> 00:39:51,156 HUEY LITTLETON: This to us was a pinnacle point 834 00:39:51,256 --> 00:39:54,460 in the investigation. 835 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,496 After hearing a lot of testimony, 836 00:39:57,596 --> 00:40:01,900 I mean, from many witnesses, the grand jury returned 837 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,805 an indictment of two counts of second degree murder 838 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:10,576 against Kim Manuel. 839 00:40:10,676 --> 00:40:11,943 KIM MANUEL: We went into the baby's room 840 00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:13,278 and I guess you could-- 841 00:40:13,378 --> 00:40:14,780 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Some believe the indictment was 842 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,049 a legal maneuver to pressure Kim Manuel into identifying 843 00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,318 other possible suspects. 844 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,689 If so, the ploy failed. 845 00:40:23,789 --> 00:40:26,925 Kim Manuel's court-appointed public defender, John Laverne, 846 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:28,927 called a press conference. 847 00:40:29,027 --> 00:40:31,997 He claimed that Pearl Fruge was lying, that the tape had 848 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:34,900 been scripted and rehearsed. 849 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:41,139 JOHN LAVERNE: She and Kim then concocted this story 850 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,977 that they wanted to hear and then she produced the tape 851 00:40:46,077 --> 00:40:48,580 recorder openly and showed it to Kim 852 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,116 and they sat there with a scripted conversation 853 00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:52,551 and recorded it and brought it back 854 00:40:52,651 --> 00:40:54,085 and gave it to these people, that 855 00:40:54,185 --> 00:40:56,788 being what they wanted to hear. 856 00:40:56,888 --> 00:41:00,225 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Pearl Fruge stands by her story. 857 00:41:00,325 --> 00:41:01,860 We never made up the tape. 858 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,261 I never lied. 859 00:41:03,361 --> 00:41:09,801 What I told them I was the truth and Kim knows is the truth. 860 00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:12,270 I can't change what she told me and I'm 861 00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:15,140 not going to make up another story just 862 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,909 to make her look good. 863 00:41:18,009 --> 00:41:19,678 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One year later, the charges 864 00:41:19,778 --> 00:41:22,681 against Kim Manuel were dropped without prejudice, 865 00:41:22,781 --> 00:41:26,518 which means that she could be indicted again later on. 866 00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:28,954 Huey Littleton was bitterly disappointed, 867 00:41:29,054 --> 00:41:32,290 and today he has apparently lost almost all credibility 868 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:35,861 with the authorities. 869 00:41:35,961 --> 00:41:38,396 We felt sorry for him at first, but it's got to a point 870 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:42,534 that he's gone way beyond the bounds. 871 00:41:42,634 --> 00:41:44,069 We've got to deal with facts. . 872 00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:46,572 When you go before a judge and a jury, 873 00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:48,640 he won't be able to bring all these accusations. 874 00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:51,610 He'll have to deal with facts. 875 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:54,580 And I think any grand jury, any district attorney, any attorney 876 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,782 general will agree with that. 877 00:41:56,882 --> 00:42:00,686 I'm at peace with what I'm doing because we're 878 00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:03,421 doing the right thing. 879 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:04,590 There's a lot of people out there 880 00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,025 that don't have the resources or the knowledge 881 00:42:07,125 --> 00:42:10,662 to do what I've done had they lost their child. 882 00:42:10,762 --> 00:42:12,931 So I represent those people. 883 00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:15,166 I represent my daughter, I represent 884 00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:18,637 my son-in-law, and their child. 885 00:42:18,737 --> 00:42:23,474 We just want to see those that participated in the murders 886 00:42:23,575 --> 00:42:31,783 of Eric and Pam and the cover-up and the destruction of evidence 887 00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:35,320 brought to justice, justice under the law. 888 00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:00,311 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a woman 889 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,248 is reunited with her birth mother after more than half 890 00:43:03,348 --> 00:43:04,249 a century apart. 891 00:43:15,293 --> 00:43:16,728 Recently, we brought you the story 892 00:43:16,828 --> 00:43:19,464 of Meredith Atkinson, who was looking for her birth 893 00:43:19,564 --> 00:43:21,166 mother, Rose Marie Luttmer. 894 00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:28,707 In 1938, Rose Marie found herself pregnant and unmarried. 895 00:43:28,807 --> 00:43:30,709 She sought refuge at the Home of Redeeming 896 00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:33,011 Love, a shelter for unwed mothers 897 00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,080 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. 898 00:43:38,549 --> 00:43:41,787 It was there that Meredith was born. 899 00:43:41,887 --> 00:43:43,121 Meredith, I'd like for you to keep 900 00:43:43,221 --> 00:43:44,522 in mind that with adoption-- 901 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,125 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 53 years later, 1991, 902 00:43:47,225 --> 00:43:49,928 Meredith returned to her birthplace to search 903 00:43:50,028 --> 00:43:51,462 for clues about her past. 904 00:43:51,562 --> 00:43:55,000 --and open up your file to the adult adoptee. 905 00:43:55,100 --> 00:44:02,307 I found out that my mother was of Irish and German descent. 906 00:44:02,407 --> 00:44:08,546 I found out that she had one sister and four brothers. 907 00:44:08,646 --> 00:44:09,781 They were field workers. 908 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:16,888 I would like to be able to look at her 909 00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:21,659 and tell her, Mother, I understand. 910 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,530 I know you had to do what was best for you 911 00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:28,199 and that I'd like to know you. 912 00:44:28,299 --> 00:44:29,367 I'd like to get to know you. 913 00:44:32,738 --> 00:44:34,539 As a direct result of our broadcast, 914 00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:36,207 a private investigator named Glenda 915 00:44:36,307 --> 00:44:38,409 Allen contacted Meredith and volunteered 916 00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:40,445 to take on the search. 917 00:44:40,545 --> 00:44:44,349 Just one month later, Meredith received the exciting news. 918 00:44:44,449 --> 00:44:48,519 Her mother, 78-year-old Rose Marie Luttmer, had been found. 919 00:44:48,619 --> 00:44:51,189 Though she's been in failing health for several years, 920 00:44:51,289 --> 00:44:54,059 Rose Marie was anxious to see her long lost daughter. 921 00:44:58,563 --> 00:45:02,200 In September of 1994, Meredith and her two children 922 00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:04,870 traveled from Arizona to Canute, Oklahoma, 923 00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:06,805 for the much anticipated reunion. 924 00:45:10,641 --> 00:45:11,576 - Well, hello. - Hi there. 925 00:45:11,676 --> 00:45:12,477 Walter? 926 00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:13,344 Walter. 927 00:45:13,444 --> 00:45:15,146 Glad to know you, Walter. 928 00:45:15,246 --> 00:45:16,547 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Meredith's Uncle 929 00:45:16,647 --> 00:45:20,585 Walter, Rose Marie's brother, answered the door. 930 00:45:20,685 --> 00:45:21,486 Hello. 931 00:45:21,586 --> 00:45:23,855 Is this is Rose? 932 00:45:23,955 --> 00:45:24,756 Yeah. 933 00:45:24,856 --> 00:45:26,657 Hi, Rose. 934 00:45:26,758 --> 00:45:27,592 Hi. 935 00:45:27,692 --> 00:45:28,526 Is that you? 936 00:45:28,626 --> 00:45:31,129 Yes. 937 00:45:31,229 --> 00:45:32,730 I'm Mary Anne. 938 00:45:32,831 --> 00:45:34,232 You know Mary Anne. 939 00:45:34,332 --> 00:45:35,433 Yeah. 940 00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:37,202 I'm so tickled. 941 00:45:37,302 --> 00:45:42,908 I think that finding my mother and seeing her and her family 942 00:45:43,008 --> 00:45:47,545 has brought closure to my life. 943 00:45:47,645 --> 00:45:54,719 I needed-- I needed this. 944 00:45:54,820 --> 00:45:59,157 You're even a great grandma, do you know that? 945 00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:00,258 Sure. 946 00:46:00,358 --> 00:46:02,193 Yes. 947 00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:05,663 I'm just tickled to death she's here. 948 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:06,631 Yeah. 949 00:46:06,731 --> 00:46:08,033 I just wish we were closer together. 950 00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:09,734 We could visit a little more often. 951 00:46:09,835 --> 00:46:13,905 But I plan to go through there and visit her in Arizona when 952 00:46:14,005 --> 00:46:16,374 I go see my brothers that way. 953 00:46:16,474 --> 00:46:18,376 Be kind of on the way up there. 954 00:46:18,476 --> 00:46:20,445 Might be a little out of the way, but it will be worth it. 955 00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:26,584 MEREDITH LUTTMER: It's like gaining a new family 956 00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:31,056 and it's like gaining new friends, too. 957 00:46:31,156 --> 00:46:34,960 Well, Albert, I think you and I look alike, too. 958 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:39,464 I absolutely am going to be overjoyed to write to them 959 00:46:39,564 --> 00:46:44,602 and talk to them and get to know them. 960 00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:48,173 Do you care if I call you Mother? 961 00:46:48,273 --> 00:46:49,140 No. 962 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:50,041 No. 963 00:47:03,354 --> 00:47:04,956 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Thanks for watching. 964 00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:08,994 Join me next time for another fascinating edition 965 00:47:09,094 --> 00:47:10,095 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 966 00:47:10,195 --> 00:47:12,864 [theme music] 75043

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