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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,668 --> 00:00:02,636 [filmrise sound effects] 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 NARRATOR: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:20,321 [music playing] 8 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:22,423 NARRATOR: It's known as the Gurdon light. 9 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:25,326 For more than 60 years, the same eerie luminous 10 00:00:25,426 --> 00:00:28,929 apparition that's been described by hundreds of eyewitnesses. 11 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:32,266 Is it some as yet unexplained natural phenomenon, 12 00:00:32,366 --> 00:00:34,735 or is it, as many say, a restless ghost 13 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:37,505 of a long dead railroad man doomed to wander 14 00:00:37,605 --> 00:00:41,409 the tracks for eternity? 15 00:00:41,509 --> 00:00:43,411 This man, Stuart Heaton, was convicted 16 00:00:43,511 --> 00:00:46,414 of murdering a 16-year-old girl largely on the strength 17 00:00:46,514 --> 00:00:48,549 of DNA test results. 18 00:00:48,649 --> 00:00:51,419 But all along, Heaton has claimed that he is innocent. 19 00:00:51,519 --> 00:00:53,354 The DNA tests were flawed. 20 00:00:53,454 --> 00:00:56,424 And some prominent scientific experts agree with him. 21 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:02,596 Call them the real life Thelma and Louise, on the road 22 00:01:02,696 --> 00:01:04,098 and on the run. 23 00:01:04,198 --> 00:01:06,900 A middle class wife and mother and her best friend 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,704 allegedly thrilled in seducing, terrorizing, and robbing men 25 00:01:10,804 --> 00:01:14,708 they met through the personals. 26 00:01:14,808 --> 00:01:16,644 Also tonight a heartwarming read reel 27 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:18,912 brought about by your calls. 28 00:01:19,012 --> 00:01:22,616 Join me for another edition of Unsolved Mysteries. 29 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:25,586 [eerie music] 30 00:02:23,277 --> 00:02:27,315 Welcome to Gurdon, Arkansas, population 2,700, 31 00:02:27,415 --> 00:02:30,451 a typical small town, apparently no different 32 00:02:30,551 --> 00:02:32,085 from hundreds of other communities 33 00:02:32,186 --> 00:02:34,888 that dot the railroad between St. Louis and Dallas. 34 00:02:37,958 --> 00:02:40,694 But as darkness descends, an air of expectancy 35 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:42,530 settles over Gurdon. 36 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:44,632 Most nights, the locals anticipate 37 00:02:44,732 --> 00:02:47,835 the arrival of their very own unsolved mystery. 38 00:02:51,071 --> 00:02:54,107 For decades, on the tracks just outside of town, 39 00:02:54,208 --> 00:02:56,810 an eerie unexplained light of unknown origin 40 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:58,546 has been magically appearing. 41 00:03:02,350 --> 00:03:04,117 This time lapse photograph was taken 42 00:03:04,218 --> 00:03:07,521 in November by an Unsolved Mysteries photographer. 43 00:03:07,621 --> 00:03:10,491 It is apparently the first time that the strange phenomenon, 44 00:03:10,591 --> 00:03:12,260 known locally as the Gurdon light, 45 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,494 has been captured on film. 46 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,132 A few days later, the photographer returned 47 00:03:19,233 --> 00:03:20,701 to the railroad tracks. 48 00:03:20,801 --> 00:03:24,538 He waited until nightfall and recorded this mysterious light 49 00:03:24,638 --> 00:03:25,439 on videotape. 50 00:03:33,281 --> 00:03:35,416 This is an enlargement of the image, 51 00:03:35,516 --> 00:03:38,819 the same image seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses over the years. 52 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:46,460 I'd say that I've seen it where I couldn't write it off 53 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,532 as being anything else probably 20, 25 times at least, 54 00:03:51,632 --> 00:03:54,435 and I'm a very skeptical person. 55 00:03:54,535 --> 00:03:56,136 Over the years, I have personally 56 00:03:56,236 --> 00:04:01,442 seen it hundreds of times with my father and my family. 57 00:04:01,542 --> 00:04:04,878 I've seen the light at least 60 or 70 times. 58 00:04:04,978 --> 00:04:07,481 And of course, usually when you see 59 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:10,250 it one time in that evening, you can see 60 00:04:10,351 --> 00:04:11,919 it several times in succession. 61 00:04:15,155 --> 00:04:16,490 NARRATOR: What is the Gurdon light? 62 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,326 A natural phenomenon? 63 00:04:18,426 --> 00:04:20,193 A long running prank? 64 00:04:20,294 --> 00:04:22,996 Or perhaps something that cannot be explained? 65 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:26,066 Not surprising, that possibility inevitably 66 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:28,235 prompts a retelling of the legend that goes 67 00:04:28,336 --> 00:04:29,437 along with the Gurdon light. 68 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:38,278 It all began on a chilly December evening in 1931. 69 00:04:38,379 --> 00:04:40,714 Around midnight, Will McLean, a section 70 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:43,517 foreman for the railroad confronted one of his workers 71 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:44,485 Louis McBride. 72 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:45,919 I got something I need to tell you. 73 00:04:46,019 --> 00:04:47,855 And I wan-- it doesn't concern any of you boys. 74 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,289 Now, go on and clock out. 75 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,091 NARRATOR: The day before, a freight train had 76 00:04:51,191 --> 00:04:52,993 derailed just outside Gurdon. 77 00:04:53,093 --> 00:04:56,129 McLean suspected that McBride had sabotaged 78 00:04:56,229 --> 00:04:57,731 a section of the track. 79 00:04:57,831 --> 00:04:59,333 This is your last night, McBride. 80 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:00,534 Get your pay and get on out of here. 81 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:01,602 Why? 82 00:05:01,702 --> 00:05:04,237 - I think you know why. - I need this job. 83 00:05:04,338 --> 00:05:05,973 Well, you should've thought about before you 84 00:05:06,073 --> 00:05:07,307 pulled that crazy little stunt. 85 00:05:07,408 --> 00:05:08,376 But I have a fami-- 86 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:09,577 I don't want to hear any more about it. 87 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:11,412 Just pick up your pay and get off the yard. 88 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:12,312 I need this job. 89 00:05:24,057 --> 00:05:25,926 [grunt] 90 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:28,862 [inaudible] [grunts] 91 00:05:30,931 --> 00:05:33,801 [music playing] 92 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:38,338 [scrambling] 93 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:39,239 No! 94 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:44,812 NARRATOR: When McLean failed to return home, 95 00:05:44,912 --> 00:05:47,415 a search party was hastily assembled. 96 00:05:47,515 --> 00:05:50,117 They came upon a trail of blood and followed it along 97 00:05:50,217 --> 00:05:52,886 the tracks to the edge of town. 98 00:05:52,986 --> 00:05:54,354 What is that? 99 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:02,696 It's McLean's. 100 00:06:02,796 --> 00:06:04,064 Please look off down yonder. 101 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:08,101 NARRATOR: At the end of the blood 102 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:10,337 trail lay the body of Will McLean. 103 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:17,678 By dawn, Lewis McBride had confessed to the murder. 104 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:20,848 In February of 1932, he was executed 105 00:06:20,948 --> 00:06:22,616 at the state penitentiary. 106 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:28,856 It wasn't long before people began seeing the Gurdon 107 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:31,124 light on a regular basis. 108 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:33,060 Local lore said it was the ghost of Will 109 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,029 McLean doomed to spend eternity walking 110 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:37,064 the tracks with his lantern. 111 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:43,804 [train] 112 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:46,974 One of the earliest sightings is one of the most memorable-- 113 00:06:47,074 --> 00:06:49,510 as a train approached town, an elderly conductor 114 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:52,279 named John stepped on to the back of the caboose 115 00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:53,781 and was startled by what he saw. 116 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:06,660 They say that John went out on the back platform 117 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,164 to investigate, and the light was real far off and kind of 118 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:12,500 faint. 119 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,570 But it seemed to be traveling the same speed they were. 120 00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:19,072 And then all of a sudden, it just shut up, 121 00:07:19,172 --> 00:07:21,942 and he's just like paralyzed and just hanging 122 00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:26,614 onto the grab bar and just transfixed, 123 00:07:26,714 --> 00:07:27,915 staring right into the light. 124 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:33,120 NARRATOR: According to John, the light followed 125 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:35,155 the train for more than a mile. 126 00:07:35,255 --> 00:07:38,425 Finally, it veered off in the direction of the cemetery. 127 00:07:38,526 --> 00:07:40,728 Ever since, looking for the Gurdon light 128 00:07:40,828 --> 00:07:45,132 has become something of a local pastime. 129 00:07:45,232 --> 00:07:49,803 If can go down there with some regularity, 130 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:52,540 you're definitely going to see it after a while. 131 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,809 You may go a few days, you know, where you get frustrated 132 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:57,010 and you don't see it. 133 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:59,680 But with a little time and a little concentration, 134 00:07:59,780 --> 00:08:03,617 you most definitely will see the light. 135 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:07,788 My friends and I always went down there with the hopes 136 00:08:07,888 --> 00:08:09,156 of seeing the light. 137 00:08:09,256 --> 00:08:15,228 And walking down the tracks just in the total darkness always 138 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:16,997 left you with a little eerie feeling. 139 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:26,439 I've seen it come on in a quick flash. 140 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:30,778 I've seen it fade in and then fade back out. 141 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,946 And sometimes we've gotten pretty scared 142 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:38,085 down there, seeing the light together with maybe 143 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:40,554 some noises in the woods. 144 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:45,959 Have us seen us running out of there quite often. 145 00:08:46,059 --> 00:08:47,260 NARRATOR: The descriptions of the light 146 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,262 are for the most part consistent. 147 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,999 It seems to float one to three feet above the tracks 148 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:53,133 and often changes colors. 149 00:08:56,203 --> 00:08:59,439 The light is rarely visible for more than 10 seconds at a time. 150 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:05,212 There are many times when I walk down the tracks by myself 151 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:07,581 and spent several hours out there. 152 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:09,449 And during the course of that time, 153 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:12,419 you can be observing the light and move toward it 154 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:13,654 and it'll disappear. 155 00:09:13,754 --> 00:09:15,889 And you'll turn around, and it'll be behind you. 156 00:09:15,989 --> 00:09:19,059 Almost everybody has had that kind of experience from time 157 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:20,694 to time with it. 158 00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:22,830 The local legend is, if it gets behind you, 159 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:26,199 you can't get back to your car. 160 00:09:26,299 --> 00:09:29,903 The whole town has seen it at some point in time. 161 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:33,573 And it's not a figment of anybody's imagination. 162 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,508 It does exist. 163 00:09:35,609 --> 00:09:37,678 It is there. 164 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:39,346 What is it? 165 00:09:39,446 --> 00:09:40,247 That's the question. 166 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:45,385 NARRATOR: That is indeed the question. 167 00:09:45,485 --> 00:09:48,088 Is the Gurdon light, as some believe, the ghost of Will 168 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:53,460 McLean or is there a rational scientific explanation? 169 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,729 You cross Highway 53-- 170 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:58,699 NARRATOR: For years, Dr. Charles Leming, a physics professor 171 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:02,035 at Henderson State University, took his classes to Gurdon 172 00:10:02,135 --> 00:10:05,372 in search of an answer. 173 00:10:05,472 --> 00:10:07,174 When I first went out to see the Gurdon light 174 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:09,843 and studied the area maps, I was pretty confident 175 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:12,579 that the light always originated from car 176 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:18,285 headlights on an interstate bridge a few miles away. 177 00:10:18,385 --> 00:10:20,220 NARRATOR: The light is usually seen in this area 178 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,889 just outside Gurdon. 179 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:27,127 The highway lies to the southwest, four miles away. 180 00:10:27,227 --> 00:10:28,662 The problem with the headlight theory 181 00:10:28,762 --> 00:10:31,799 is that we're sure people were going out before the interstate 182 00:10:31,899 --> 00:10:33,266 opened in 1970. 183 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:36,804 We could find reliable accounts of people that went out just 184 00:10:36,904 --> 00:10:39,506 to see the Gurdon light and reported the Gurdon light well 185 00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:41,875 before the interstate bridge that we thought was the origin 186 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,277 of the headlights was opened. 187 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:45,979 Hop up here and take a look-- 188 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:48,415 NARRATOR: A second theory is that the light is in fact swamp 189 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:51,318 gas, a spontaneous combustion of the gas 190 00:10:51,418 --> 00:10:54,855 is produced when dense vegetation decomposes. 191 00:10:54,955 --> 00:10:57,190 It's down that way, too. 192 00:10:57,290 --> 00:10:59,559 The theory of it being swamp gas 193 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:02,562 doesn't hold up to me just because I've 194 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,065 seen it on a windy night. 195 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:09,536 So that would eliminate any sort of swamp gas out there. 196 00:11:09,636 --> 00:11:11,705 The The closest theory that I've come to 197 00:11:11,805 --> 00:11:13,306 for explaining the Gurdon light is the 198 00:11:13,406 --> 00:11:15,608 piezoelectric electric effect. 199 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:17,577 And piezoelectricity is a simple phenomena, 200 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:22,382 where if you squeeze crystals, such as quartz or Rochelle salt 201 00:11:22,482 --> 00:11:25,853 you get an electric current out of them. 202 00:11:25,953 --> 00:11:28,355 NARRATOR: Gurdon sits atop an abundant deposit of quartz 203 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:31,658 crystals and an active fault line known as the New Madrid 204 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:36,029 Fault. Michael Clingan believes that, when the plates shift, 205 00:11:36,129 --> 00:11:38,265 an electric charge is released from the crystals 206 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:42,535 and seen above ground as the Gurdon Light. 207 00:11:42,635 --> 00:11:47,174 People tend to say that the light appeared after the murder 208 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:48,708 of Will McLean. 209 00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:53,480 And looking back, that also coincides 210 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:56,483 with a major earthquake on the New Madrid Fault Line. 211 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:59,386 So that tends to support my piezoelectric theory. 212 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,423 NARRATOR: Clingan acknowledges that there is 213 00:12:03,523 --> 00:12:05,692 one large hole in his theory. 214 00:12:05,793 --> 00:12:07,895 He cannot explain how that charge migrates 215 00:12:07,995 --> 00:12:10,363 to the surface or why it is concentrated 216 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:11,598 in a ball-like shape. 217 00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:15,903 I don't think if they came forth 218 00:12:16,003 --> 00:12:19,539 with the logical explanation I would truly believe it. 219 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:22,609 It is too mysterious, and I don't 220 00:12:22,709 --> 00:12:24,511 think it can be explained. 221 00:12:24,611 --> 00:12:28,081 Do we really want to know what it is? 222 00:12:28,181 --> 00:12:30,417 Because that would take all the mystery out 223 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:32,685 of it and all the fun. 224 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:35,889 And I would like to see my children's children take 225 00:12:35,989 --> 00:12:39,492 their children down there just like our parents took us 226 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:40,894 down there. 227 00:12:40,994 --> 00:12:45,799 It's a perfect setting for a ghost story. 228 00:12:45,899 --> 00:12:48,301 NARRATOR: What is the secret of the Gurdon Light? 229 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:50,637 If there is a scientific explanation, 230 00:12:50,737 --> 00:12:54,908 it has certainly eluded everyone for the past 60 years. 231 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:57,010 Until something better comes along, 232 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:59,947 we're left with the legend poor old Will McLean's ghost 233 00:13:00,047 --> 00:13:04,084 wandering the railroad tracks forever more perhaps in search 234 00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:05,518 of the man who killed him. 235 00:13:10,223 --> 00:13:14,061 When we return, a controversial case of Stuart Heaton. 236 00:13:14,161 --> 00:13:20,033 Did fault DNA evidence put the wrong man in prison for murder? 237 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,469 [eerie music] 238 00:13:26,974 --> 00:13:28,708 In recent months, most of us have at least 239 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:31,511 heard the legal debate over the use of DNA evidence 240 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:33,680 in criminal cases. 241 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:36,449 Many experts believe DNA can identify a suspect 242 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:38,618 as reliably as a fingerprint. 243 00:13:38,718 --> 00:13:41,088 Others strongly disagree. 244 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:43,190 Tonight that debate has a special resonance 245 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:45,592 for a young man named Stuart Heaton. 246 00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:47,560 He is serving a life sentence for murder 247 00:13:47,660 --> 00:13:48,862 even though many believe there is 248 00:13:48,962 --> 00:13:52,799 compelling evidence that another man committed the crime. 249 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:54,935 Stuart insists that he is innocent, 250 00:13:55,035 --> 00:13:57,137 and that crucial DNA evidence, which 251 00:13:57,237 --> 00:14:00,507 some say is deeply flawed, helped put him behind bars. 252 00:14:04,444 --> 00:14:07,047 Ramsey, Illinois in the south central part of the state 253 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:09,182 is a peaceful rural community. 254 00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:15,022 But on July 23rd, 1991, a brutal murder shocked its citizens. 255 00:14:15,122 --> 00:14:18,225 16-year-old Krystal Nabb, a high school sophomore, 256 00:14:18,325 --> 00:14:20,560 had been stabbed 81 times in the living 257 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:21,728 room of her family's trailer. 258 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:24,998 Right. 259 00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:26,466 What do you got there? 260 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:27,968 Well, I think I have your murder weapon. 261 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:31,471 Looks like a pair of sewing scissors. 262 00:14:31,571 --> 00:14:32,839 Now, I'll tell you the person who 263 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:35,808 did this can't stab somebody that many times without getting 264 00:14:35,909 --> 00:14:37,477 cuts on your hands. 265 00:14:37,577 --> 00:14:39,212 Look for somebody with cuts either on the outside of 266 00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:41,181 their fingers or on their palm. 267 00:14:41,281 --> 00:14:44,017 I wonder if you happened to see anything suspicious-- 268 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,186 NARRATOR: Several neighbors told police they have noticed 269 00:14:46,286 --> 00:14:48,989 a pickup truck, most probably a Dodge parked 270 00:14:49,089 --> 00:14:52,125 outside the Nabb's trailer earlier that day from around 271 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:54,727 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM. 272 00:14:54,827 --> 00:14:56,596 Said like a Dodge pickup truck. 273 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:58,898 Do you know anybody that has a truck like that? 274 00:14:58,999 --> 00:15:01,168 NARRATOR: Next, the police talked with Krystal brother, 275 00:15:01,268 --> 00:15:02,202 Curtis Nabb. 276 00:15:02,302 --> 00:15:03,536 A friend of mine. 277 00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:06,273 I haven't seen him for like two or three years, though. 278 00:15:06,373 --> 00:15:07,474 Stuart Heaton. 279 00:15:07,574 --> 00:15:08,775 Stuart Heaton. 280 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:11,278 Do you happen to know where this Stuart Heaton lives? 281 00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:12,912 He used live all three miles up the road. 282 00:15:13,013 --> 00:15:13,813 Uh-huh. 283 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,248 Is he married? 284 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:16,449 I don't know. 285 00:15:16,549 --> 00:15:17,650 OK, you haven't seen him in that long, though? 286 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:18,751 Two or three years? 287 00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:19,786 Yeah, it's been at least two, three years. 288 00:15:19,886 --> 00:15:20,687 OK. 289 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:23,556 Good evening. 290 00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:25,092 NARRATOR: Police located Stewart Heaton 291 00:15:25,192 --> 00:15:27,360 in nearby Bluff City, Illinois, where he worked 292 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,262 as a carpenter and roofer. 293 00:15:29,362 --> 00:15:31,698 He did, in fact, own a white Dodge pickup 294 00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:34,867 and had married two years earlier several months after he 295 00:15:34,968 --> 00:15:36,236 lost touch with Curtis Nabb. 296 00:15:36,336 --> 00:15:38,338 Mr. Heaton, if you'd step out on the porch just for a second. 297 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:39,639 What do you want to ask me? 298 00:15:39,739 --> 00:15:41,108 Mr. Heaton, would you put your hands behind your back? 299 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:42,609 - What for? - Mr. Heaton. 300 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:43,743 What are you doing? 301 00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:44,811 I just want to ask you a couple of questions. 302 00:15:44,911 --> 00:15:46,213 What is going on here? 303 00:15:46,313 --> 00:15:47,347 - I haven't done anything wrong. - We're just going to take you-- 304 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:48,615 Can you explain what's going on here, please? 305 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:49,682 --and ask you a few questions. 306 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:51,284 That's all. - Stuart. 307 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:52,185 Hey, Karen. 308 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:53,820 Karen, call my mom. 309 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,288 Where are they taking you? 310 00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:56,256 The police station. 311 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:01,228 Where'd you get these cuts on your hands, Stuart? 312 00:16:01,328 --> 00:16:02,862 MALE: And flashing. - I'm laying a roof. 313 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,131 You sometimes bang your hands when 314 00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:05,598 you're working in construction. 315 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:06,766 Hold real still for me, OK? 316 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:07,834 [inaudible] 317 00:16:07,934 --> 00:16:11,004 Both on the outer and on the palms, too. 318 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:12,239 What about this one on your forehead? 319 00:16:12,339 --> 00:16:13,740 Did you-- - It's not a cut. 320 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,941 It's a pimple. - Yeah? 321 00:16:15,042 --> 00:16:16,043 Take a shot of that, Tom.? 322 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:17,677 - Can I put my hands down now? - Just a second. 323 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:18,578 Lean down, Stuart. 324 00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:20,113 Just hold real still. 325 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:22,115 We got to know a little bit about what you did today. 326 00:16:22,215 --> 00:16:23,716 What was your day like? When did you wake up? 327 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:24,617 Where'd you go? 328 00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:27,120 I left my house at 9:00. 329 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:29,289 I gave an estimate for a roofing job. 330 00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:30,657 Where'd you give the estimate, Stuart? 331 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,259 Look, why am I answering these questions? 332 00:16:32,359 --> 00:16:33,560 I haven't done anything wrong. 333 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,195 He doesn't know he's here. 334 00:16:35,295 --> 00:16:36,563 He's done anything wrong. 335 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:38,831 The two crime scene technicians came back and told 336 00:16:38,931 --> 00:16:41,134 me, this guy has the cuts. 337 00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:44,837 This is our man from the beginning. 338 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:48,775 And for a while, though, that was all we had connecting him 339 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:51,711 to the crime scene, where the cuts-- there was just 340 00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:53,080 too big of a coincidence for them 341 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:54,914 to say that the guy we're looking for 342 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,015 is going to have this. 343 00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:57,217 And the suspect they picked up immediately 344 00:16:57,317 --> 00:17:00,453 had exactly what they said we would find. 345 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:03,623 I know for a fact that I'm innocent. 346 00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:08,595 Nobody else may know for a fact, bit I know for a fact. 347 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:14,134 If they were half the investigator that he would lead 348 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,736 the public to believe, then he would 349 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:23,543 have checked and found out I'll always have cuts on my hand. 350 00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:25,578 You know, there wasn't nothing abnormal. 351 00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:29,882 A carpenter without cuts on his hands is not a carpenter. 352 00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:30,783 He's an observer. 353 00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:33,553 And I'm a carpenter. 354 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:35,822 We were told that he had been picked up. 355 00:17:35,922 --> 00:17:41,628 Stuart Heaton had been picked up for her murder. 356 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:43,896 And afterwards, we learned that there 357 00:17:43,996 --> 00:17:47,033 was a possibility because he had cuts 358 00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:49,936 on his hands, his forehead. 359 00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:54,006 He had a mark on his leg, and they started 360 00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:55,408 doing some investigation. 361 00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:58,178 And people had seen his truck. 362 00:17:58,278 --> 00:17:59,546 Step inside. 363 00:17:59,646 --> 00:18:03,550 NARRATOR: Stuart Heaton was indicted on September 11, 1991. 364 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:06,919 He voluntarily waived his right to a speedy trial. 365 00:18:07,019 --> 00:18:08,888 After a search warrant was obtained, 366 00:18:08,988 --> 00:18:11,958 police took a blood sample from Stuart for DNA testing. 367 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:17,630 An autopsy had been performed on Krysta Nabb. 368 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,799 She was three months pregnant, and a trace 369 00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:22,302 of dried yellow material, which contains semen, 370 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:24,604 was found in her pubic hair. 371 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:27,974 Krystal's boyfriend had been eliminated as a suspect. 372 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:30,243 The authorities wanted to find out if the semen 373 00:18:30,343 --> 00:18:31,678 matched Stuart Heaton's DNA. 374 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:37,250 For more than four months, Stuart languished in jail, 375 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:40,153 awaiting the DNA test results, which he felt would 376 00:18:40,253 --> 00:18:41,888 exonerate him once and for all. 377 00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:42,789 Heaton? 378 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:43,690 Yes, sir. 379 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:44,657 You got a delivery. 380 00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:45,958 Thank you. 381 00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:47,427 NARRATOR: However, when his lawyer forwarded 382 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,095 the test results, they were not what 383 00:18:49,196 --> 00:18:51,097 Stuart Heaton had hoped for. 384 00:18:51,198 --> 00:18:54,434 There was a chance that Stuart's DNA did match the semen 385 00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,869 sample found on Krystal's body. 386 00:18:56,969 --> 00:19:00,740 In spite of this, Stuart remained optimistic. 387 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,344 I didn't know as much about DNA and genetic testing 388 00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:06,078 then as I do now. 389 00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:08,981 But when I read that, I looked at that and I hung on to that. 390 00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:11,050 And I said, there's only a chance, you know? 391 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,353 This test isn't exact. 392 00:19:13,453 --> 00:19:16,389 They can't say, oh, it matches. 393 00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:17,624 I mean, they said there was a chance. 394 00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:20,760 In my mind, reasonable doubt. 395 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:21,728 I had read all that. 396 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:23,996 I knew there was no way. 397 00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:27,267 And when I looked at it, I thought, uh-uh, it's not him. 398 00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:30,737 Besides all the other forensic evidence-- 399 00:19:30,837 --> 00:19:35,908 they had 25 pages of hair, skin, tissue, blood, fingerprints. 400 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,478 And not a one was Stuart's. 401 00:19:38,578 --> 00:19:39,612 You couldn't be. 402 00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:42,715 It's an impossibility to be in a place from 10:00 403 00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:45,151 in the morning to 3:00 in the afternoon 404 00:19:45,252 --> 00:19:46,953 and not leave something. 405 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,989 And there's nobody smart enough to clean up theirs-- 406 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:51,758 just theirs and leave everybody else's. 407 00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:52,659 Uh-uh. 408 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:53,526 It's impossible. 409 00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:56,229 It can't be done. 410 00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,598 NARRATOR: The Dodge pickup and the cuts on Stuart's hands 411 00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,533 notwithstanding, he and his family 412 00:20:00,633 --> 00:20:02,902 were confident going into the trial, 413 00:20:03,002 --> 00:20:05,905 but they would be sorely disappointed. 414 00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:07,607 Curtis Nabb, Krystal's brother, 415 00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:09,876 gave damaging testimony. 416 00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:12,111 He claimed that one night, between two and three years 417 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,514 earlier, he'd found Stuart in the Nabb's trailer 418 00:20:14,614 --> 00:20:16,683 with his older sister Melanie. 419 00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:18,685 INTERVIEWER: Now, when you say he was talking your sister, 420 00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:21,588 where was he located in the trailer at that time? 421 00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:22,889 In the bedroom. 422 00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:24,391 INTERVIEWER: And where was your sister? 423 00:20:24,491 --> 00:20:26,259 In the bedroom. 424 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,261 Of course, his testimony was completely different 425 00:20:28,361 --> 00:20:30,196 from his mom's on that. 426 00:20:30,297 --> 00:20:37,103 He said he answered the door, and that I came in. 427 00:20:37,203 --> 00:20:41,240 He asked me to leave and all this and that. 428 00:20:41,341 --> 00:20:44,444 I think even at one point he said that he woke up 429 00:20:44,544 --> 00:20:45,912 and I was there. 430 00:20:46,012 --> 00:20:49,816 But that night, when I stopped by, his mom answered the door. 431 00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,217 I asked for Curtis. 432 00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:55,288 She went and got Curtis, and we sat down at the kitchen table 433 00:20:55,388 --> 00:20:58,558 and drank a couple of beers and talked. 434 00:20:58,658 --> 00:20:59,926 They asked me three times-- 435 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:01,294 NARRATOR: Stuart's wife was called 436 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:04,864 by the prosecution as a hostile witness, as was his mother. 437 00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:06,933 Their testimony indicated that Stuart 438 00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,769 might have changed clothes on the day of the murder. 439 00:21:09,869 --> 00:21:12,639 I can tell you that in the morning he had a t-shirt on. 440 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:14,474 But as far as, you know, pants and stuff, 441 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:17,910 I'd have to sweat pants because he couldn't fit in his jeans. 442 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,447 Why all of a sudden, now, do you just say sweat pants? 443 00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:21,914 Because I-- 444 00:21:22,014 --> 00:21:24,183 NARRATOR: The prosecution's theorized that Stuart had 445 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,986 hidden a pair of blue jeans, bloodied during the murder 446 00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:28,220 of Krystal Nabb. 447 00:21:28,321 --> 00:21:29,389 No further questions, your honor. 448 00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:35,094 NARRATOR: Two witnesses, one woman and one man, 449 00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:38,331 took the stand to establish an alibi for Stuart between 10:00 450 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:41,000 AM and 3:00 PM on the day of the murder, 451 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,703 but the prosecutor shot holes in their testimony. 452 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,908 Against his family's advice, Stuart decided not 453 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:51,544 to testify on his own behalf. 454 00:21:51,644 --> 00:21:53,346 He says his court appointed lawyer had not 455 00:21:53,446 --> 00:21:55,615 prepared him to take the stand. 456 00:21:55,715 --> 00:21:58,317 Stuart also says his religion teaches that faith 457 00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:02,121 must be put in God rather than on any individual including 458 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:03,723 oneself. 459 00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,525 With regard to the semen samples-- 460 00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:08,027 NARRATOR: As the capstone of the prosecution's case, 461 00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:09,962 an expert witness testified that there 462 00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:12,264 was a probability that Stuart Heaton's 463 00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:14,434 DNA matched the semen sample. 464 00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:19,572 The DNA profile found in this case that matches the DNA 465 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:23,175 profile of Mr. Heaton would be expected 466 00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:28,881 to be found once out of every 52,600 467 00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:32,585 non-related Caucasians tested. 468 00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:34,954 NARRATOR: Those odds relative to other cases 469 00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:37,757 where DNA has been used as evidence are not in fact 470 00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,526 very impressive. 471 00:22:39,626 --> 00:22:41,428 The odds needed before many experts 472 00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:43,229 feel comfortable are more in the neighborhood 473 00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:44,964 of a million to one. 474 00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:48,200 Nevertheless, the jury found the prosecution's expert 475 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,869 convincing. 476 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:53,372 The jury has returned two signed verdicts. 477 00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:56,308 First, signed verdict-- we the jury 478 00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:59,912 find the defendant Stuart Heaton guilty of first degree murder, 479 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,981 count one. 480 00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:04,751 STUART HEATON: I was expecting a not guilty verdict. 481 00:23:04,851 --> 00:23:06,252 And after I left the courtroom, I 482 00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:10,623 got across to the county jail in there with family and friends. 483 00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:13,593 And at that point, I cried. 484 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:16,095 Held on to my wife and I cried. 485 00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:20,467 And we decided we'd go on and keep fighting it. 486 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,435 I don't quit. 487 00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:26,072 I feel for the family that lost their child. 488 00:23:26,172 --> 00:23:30,009 I am not that kind of person. 489 00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:33,480 I know-- I know what it is to lose a child. 490 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:37,950 And they had to hurt bad. 491 00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,019 But the worst thing that could happen 492 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,890 was put the wrong man in prison part. 493 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:46,292 NARRATOR: Stuart was sentenced to life in prison 494 00:23:46,392 --> 00:23:49,662 at the Menard Correctional Center in Chester, Illinois. 495 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:51,130 The judge ruled that Stuart would 496 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:52,799 never be eligible for parole. 497 00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:59,071 I am convinced that the DNA evidence in this case 498 00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:02,308 was the linchpin of the prosecution's case, 499 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:06,746 that without it, the prosecution had a weak circumstantial case. 500 00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:11,718 Jurors were wowed by the scientific evidence of 52,000 501 00:24:11,818 --> 00:24:15,387 to one odds against Stuart Heaton and that did it. 502 00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,023 In the end of the day, a weak case 503 00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:20,226 was made a strong one based on this evidence, 504 00:24:20,326 --> 00:24:22,995 that I believe is phony evidence. 505 00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:25,698 NARRATOR: David Protess is an investigative journalist 506 00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:27,800 and professor at Northwestern University 507 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,036 in Evanston, Illinois. 508 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,738 His research has led him to conclude 509 00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:34,073 that the real criminal is still at large 510 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:37,376 and that Stuart Heaton was railroaded. 511 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,978 If he hadn't owned a white truck, 512 00:24:39,078 --> 00:24:42,048 he wouldn't have even been a suspect in this case. 513 00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:44,283 I did a search through the Department of Motor Vehicle 514 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:45,818 records for the state of Illinois 515 00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:47,453 that found that, in Fayette County 516 00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:50,189 alone, there were more than 100 white trucks that 517 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,992 were similar to the kind that Stuart Heaton drove. 518 00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:54,927 And in fact, in narrowing that search down, 519 00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:57,997 I identified 12 white Dodge Dakotas, 520 00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,699 including Stuart Heaton's. 521 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,068 One of those dodge Dakotas belonged to a man 522 00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:04,604 with a lengthy criminal history who knew the murder 523 00:25:04,704 --> 00:25:07,506 victim, Krystal Nabb. 524 00:25:07,607 --> 00:25:10,176 Could the DNA sample found on Krystal Nabb's have 525 00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:13,112 belonged to someone other than Stuart Heaton? 526 00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:16,448 According to the statistical method used in Stuart's trial, 527 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:19,218 there are more than 4,800 people in the United States 528 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,954 whose DNA would have matched the sample. 529 00:25:22,054 --> 00:25:24,523 And when a new statistical method widely used today 530 00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:31,130 is applied, that number rises from 4,800 to around 48,000. 531 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:34,967 There's no dispute that DNA evidence to exclude somebody 532 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:36,936 is generally accepted. 533 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:41,107 If we look just at one place on a gene and they don't match, 534 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,710 then we know that those people don't match. 535 00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:46,613 The problem is when you try to include people. 536 00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:49,015 We can prove, for example, that somebody isn't the father 537 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,819 of a child by DNA tests and we can prove that to 100% 538 00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:55,054 scientific acceptability. 539 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:56,823 But when we try to prove who is the father, 540 00:25:56,923 --> 00:26:00,760 who is the murderer-- that's where we run into difficulties. 541 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,896 NARRATOR: Bob Byman and his associate Shelley Malinowski 542 00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:08,467 have taken on the Stuart case pro-bono for no fee. 543 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,903 They believe not only that Stuart is innocent, 544 00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:14,841 but that Dr. Robert Allen, the DNA expert for the prosecution, 545 00:26:14,941 --> 00:26:17,309 used a controversial method of calculating 546 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:19,545 the odds against Stuart. 547 00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:22,949 Two Two years after he testified in the Stuart Heaton case, 548 00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:25,151 Robert Allen published an article 549 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:28,220 with several other renowned scientists that rejected 550 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,356 the statistical assumptions that he himself 551 00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:33,192 had used in the Stuart Heaton evidence. 552 00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:35,828 And I think that the main reason that he was convicted 553 00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,497 was that the jurors were completely overwhelmed 554 00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:41,701 by the complexity of the DNA evidence, 555 00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:46,572 and they saw it as infallible, when in fact it's not. 556 00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:49,642 To across the board, deny the use of DNA evidence 557 00:26:49,742 --> 00:26:53,279 because it's low, I believe, is not fair. 558 00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:55,247 I think that it should, in fact, be admissible 559 00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:56,816 and here that's what a jury is for. 560 00:26:56,916 --> 00:27:00,386 As a trier of the fact, let them determine whether the odds are 561 00:27:00,486 --> 00:27:02,588 low in relation to everything else and all 562 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:06,492 the other evidence in the case or whether they're significant. 563 00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:09,061 This probe here represents-- 564 00:27:09,161 --> 00:27:10,730 NARRATOR: The single most important issue 565 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:13,632 in the DNA testimony of Stuart Heaton's trial 566 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,903 was interpretation of the evidence. 567 00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:19,471 This is an autoradiogram, or autorad, 568 00:27:19,571 --> 00:27:22,942 of DNA taken from the murder victim of Krystal Nabb. 569 00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:26,445 The two distinct bands represent DNA 570 00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,180 from a region in which individuals 571 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,417 are very likely to be different genetically. 572 00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:35,087 Juxtapose and other DNA sample taken from a different area 573 00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:38,057 on Krystal Nabb's body and the two bands also 574 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,425 show up clearly-- 575 00:27:39,525 --> 00:27:41,794 a perfect match because both samples 576 00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:42,995 come from the same person. 577 00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,801 The trial boiled down to a debate between two expert 578 00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:50,536 witnesses over whether bands were 579 00:27:50,636 --> 00:27:54,106 present in the semen sample found on Krystal Nabb's body. 580 00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,475 And if they were, did they match the bands 581 00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:59,912 of Stuart Heaton's DNA profile? 582 00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:03,549 This autorad compares Stuart Heaton's DNA with DNA 583 00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:05,384 from the semen sample. 584 00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:08,054 The small pen point dots on the left borders 585 00:28:08,154 --> 00:28:11,490 mark the places where Dr. Allen said he saw bands which link 586 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,927 Stuart Heaton to the semen. 587 00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:18,330 Based upon your examination of the radiographs-- 588 00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:20,699 NARRATOR: The defense expert, Dr. Gary Litman, 589 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,535 said he was only able to detect those critical bands. 590 00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:24,804 As I said, there's no band. 591 00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:27,373 There simply is no band there. 592 00:28:27,473 --> 00:28:30,877 The sample itself was old, crusty material 593 00:28:30,977 --> 00:28:32,444 that was minute in quantity. 594 00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:35,381 It probably did not provide an adequate basis 595 00:28:35,481 --> 00:28:38,851 for even conducting a DNA test and certainly not the type 596 00:28:38,951 --> 00:28:41,788 of DNA test that was done here. 597 00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:44,757 We unearthed a letter in which, prior 598 00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:47,359 to his reaching conclusions, Dr. Robert 599 00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:50,196 Allen said that he hoped-- 600 00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:53,165 he hoped that the DNA test would end 601 00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:55,101 up implicating Stuart Heaton. 602 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:57,736 Now, that is scientific subjectivity 603 00:28:57,837 --> 00:29:01,941 that should disqualify him as an expert in this case. 604 00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:04,076 I'm certain that Dr. Allen did the best that he could 605 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:07,379 with what was available to him, but that material simply 606 00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:09,748 wasn't in the best condition. 607 00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:12,551 And it didn't lead, then, to very clear cut results. 608 00:29:12,651 --> 00:29:14,586 There was a lot of smudges. 609 00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:17,589 It's difficult to say unambiguously 610 00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:21,427 that a band is present and a band is not present. 611 00:29:21,527 --> 00:29:24,463 NARRATOR: Dr. Dan Krane has coauthored articles on DNA 612 00:29:24,563 --> 00:29:26,966 testing with Dr. Robert Allen. 613 00:29:27,066 --> 00:29:28,835 Yet in the case of Stuart Heaton, 614 00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:32,972 Dr. Krane disputes the conclusions of his colleague. 615 00:29:33,072 --> 00:29:35,007 Based on the DNA evidence alone, 616 00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:38,644 I would feel very uncomfortable sending a man to prison 617 00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:40,346 on that evidence alone. 618 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:42,581 Now, there may well have been other compelling evidence 619 00:29:42,681 --> 00:29:46,518 of which I'm not aware of, but the DNA evidence by itself 620 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:50,923 certainly would leave a large area of doubt in my mind 621 00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:53,292 as to whether or not that he was in fact the person 622 00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,527 who was at that crime scene. 623 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,197 I mean, it wasn't just DNA that convicted him. 624 00:29:58,297 --> 00:30:01,100 It was people that saw him, saw that truck, 625 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,302 and people that testified, you know, 626 00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,537 where they saw him at the times. 627 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:09,608 And I mean, people that saw the truck at the home. 628 00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:11,010 That's what I think helped convict 629 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,312 him-- that plus the DNA. 630 00:30:13,412 --> 00:30:15,314 There's no doubt in my mind, no doubt 631 00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:16,849 whatsoever, that he killed her. 632 00:30:16,949 --> 00:30:20,219 He killed her in an extremely vicious, sick manner. 633 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,588 He's extremely dangerous. 634 00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:24,290 He has to be locked up. 635 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:28,127 If he is released, I do believe that he will kill again. 636 00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:29,328 He has to be locked up. 637 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,899 And the court system worked, and it worked right. 638 00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:36,535 I did not kill Krystal Nabb. 639 00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:38,971 I don't know the girl. 640 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:45,177 I don't have any reason to have any grudge against her or her 641 00:30:45,277 --> 00:30:49,048 family or anything. 642 00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:50,516 I didn't know her. 643 00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:58,557 NARRATOR: When we return, two sisters are joyfully reunited 644 00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:00,192 after more than 20 years apart. 645 00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:06,098 [eerie music] 646 00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:15,241 In June of 1994, we brought you the poignant story 647 00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:18,744 of Diane Hahnlein of La Crescenta, California. 648 00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:22,448 Since 1986, Diane has battled a rare and often fatal 649 00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:23,315 blood disease. 650 00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:31,290 Diane has a relatively unusual blood disorder normally 651 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:35,694 considered to be an incurable illness, now potentially 652 00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:39,398 could be cured by the utilization of a bone marrow 653 00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:42,468 transplantation, fraught with a lot of dangers, 654 00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:46,072 though, and a lot of potential complications and not something 655 00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:49,308 to be taken lightly. 656 00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:52,244 NARRATOR: Only one person, Diana's younger sister Marilyn, 657 00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:54,746 was a potential bone marrow donor. 658 00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:57,183 But Diane had no idea where to find Marilyn. 659 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:00,619 Hi. 660 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:03,089 Hi. 661 00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:05,724 NARRATOR: The sisters have been split up in 1954 662 00:32:05,824 --> 00:32:09,061 when their parents separated. 663 00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:11,230 Marilyn went to live with their father. 664 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,332 Diana stayed with her mother. 665 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:16,202 Over the next few years, contact was sporadic. 666 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,170 And for reasons long since forgotten, 667 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:22,308 the sisters came estranged. 668 00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,311 I feel I'm asking a lot of my sister to do this bone 669 00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:29,781 marrow for me, but even if she doesn't agree to a transplant, 670 00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:31,917 if she doesn't and says, I don't want to do this, 671 00:32:32,018 --> 00:32:35,087 I would still like to make peace with her. 672 00:32:35,187 --> 00:32:35,988 She's my sister. 673 00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:42,694 When we broadcast Diane's story, a private investigator 674 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,596 from Denver, Colorado, Robin Lee, 675 00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,533 was Watching she was touched by Diane's plight, 676 00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:50,036 as assumed we would get the clues we needed. 677 00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:51,370 We didn't. 678 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:53,272 As luck would have it, Robin was also watching 679 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:55,741 when the segment reran in June. 680 00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,909 This time she decided to volunteer her help 681 00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:00,012 in tracking Marilyn down. 682 00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:04,183 The result was one of our most unusual solves ever. 683 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:08,587 I contacted the show, got a little more information, 684 00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:11,090 started out with the sisters' name. 685 00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:12,924 Marilyn Jones was her maiden name-- 686 00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:17,196 started with that and a date of birth and went on from there. 687 00:33:17,296 --> 00:33:20,266 And it took me about three days to find her, three working days 688 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:24,803 if you don't count 4th of July holiday in between. 689 00:33:24,903 --> 00:33:26,472 And I think it's great that they're back together. 690 00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:32,444 NARRATOR: On August 30th, 1994, Marilyn and Diana 691 00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,314 met face to face for the first time in 30 years. 692 00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:41,820 It's so good to see you. 693 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,555 FEMALE (VOICEOVER): Once we hugged, 694 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:45,824 it was like it hadn't been 30 years. 695 00:33:45,924 --> 00:33:50,496 It had been, you know, just a short time. 696 00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:53,199 I guess maybe that's why I feel comfortable-- is 697 00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:56,502 because I can feel the love. 698 00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:58,737 And when you feel that love, you feel comfortable. 699 00:33:58,837 --> 00:33:59,871 You haven't changed a bit. 700 00:33:59,971 --> 00:34:00,772 Oh, no. 701 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,709 [laughs] No, I'm just-- 702 00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:04,810 I get cuter with age. 703 00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:05,711 Yeah, you do. 704 00:34:05,811 --> 00:34:06,878 Yes, you do. 705 00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:08,180 DIANE (VOICEOVER): I think I'm still in shock. 706 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,448 You know, I still like-- 707 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,816 you know, I'm not here yet. 708 00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:12,518 It's just a dream. 709 00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:14,153 You know, but it's a great dream, 710 00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:16,688 and we have a lot of catching up to do. 711 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:20,126 And we'll be together forever now. 712 00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:21,827 We're going to have a lot of fun together. 713 00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:24,363 Enjoy the time we have. 714 00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:27,166 Isn't that beautiful? 715 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:29,301 NARRATOR: Coincidentally, the day of the reunion 716 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:33,339 was Diane's 53rd birthday, and Marilyn had not forgotten. 717 00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:35,341 It's beautiful. 718 00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,843 And my name is spelled right. 719 00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:42,548 [laughs] That's a [inaudible]. 720 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,882 DIANE (VOICEOVER): This is the best gift 721 00:34:43,982 --> 00:34:45,517 I've ever had in my whole life. 722 00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:47,686 This is the best gift ever-- 723 00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:52,658 is to have my sister and to have my family for my birthday. 724 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:55,494 It will be the best birthday I've ever had in my whole life. 725 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:56,928 [laughs] 726 00:34:57,028 --> 00:34:58,830 We drive 60 miles to go-- 727 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,166 NARRATOR: On the day of the reunion, 728 00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,435 Marilyn's fondest wish was to prove a compatible bone 729 00:35:03,535 --> 00:35:05,671 marrow donor for her sister. 730 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:07,273 Do I have to go to the movies? 731 00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:08,540 Oh, to the movies, we have to go all 732 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,775 the way to Canada and that's-- 733 00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,344 [laughs] that's the closest-- 734 00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:13,879 MARILYN (VOICEOVER): I want more than anything 735 00:35:13,979 --> 00:35:17,249 to have this work Diane. 736 00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:18,917 But even if it doesn't, we're going 737 00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:23,255 to take full advantage of however 738 00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:26,825 long we do have together. 739 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:29,628 We can make a week seem like an eternity. 740 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,003 [music playing] 741 00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:48,146 [eerie music] 742 00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,351 [honks] 743 00:35:52,451 --> 00:35:53,685 NARRATOR: You would think that they were 744 00:35:53,785 --> 00:35:55,987 just out for a joy ride, best friends 745 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:57,756 without a care in the world. 746 00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,260 But like everything else about Rose Turford and Carol Stevens, 747 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,461 looks can be deceiving. 748 00:36:02,561 --> 00:36:06,698 [shouts] To the police, these two women 749 00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:09,835 are nothing less than the real life Thelma and Louise. 750 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:12,904 Today Turford and Stevens are armed, dangerous, 751 00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:15,607 and on the run, wanted on multiple charges 752 00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:16,875 of aggravated robbery. 753 00:36:20,746 --> 00:36:22,113 Carolyn. 754 00:36:22,214 --> 00:36:23,081 Yeah, OK. 755 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,683 Look, we're running a little late. 756 00:36:24,783 --> 00:36:27,185 NARRATOR: They met in 1992. 757 00:36:27,286 --> 00:36:29,355 Both were nurses at a psychiatric hospital 758 00:36:29,455 --> 00:36:31,223 in Houston, Texas. 759 00:36:31,323 --> 00:36:33,359 Eventually, Rose invited Carolyn to move 760 00:36:33,459 --> 00:36:35,160 in with her and her family. 761 00:36:35,261 --> 00:36:38,129 By January of 1995, the two women have 762 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:42,000 embarked on a vicious game. 763 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,371 Rose Turford was, by all accounts, a loving wife, 764 00:36:45,471 --> 00:36:48,240 devoted mother, and dedicated professional. 765 00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:51,610 But at night, she took on a whole new persona. 766 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:52,511 Here were are. 767 00:36:52,611 --> 00:36:53,612 Got the wine, the key. 768 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:54,513 Great. 769 00:36:54,613 --> 00:36:55,814 The room's right here. 770 00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:56,748 Oh good. 771 00:36:56,848 --> 00:36:58,083 OK. 772 00:36:58,183 --> 00:37:00,686 NARRATOR: Rose began soliciting men through the personals. 773 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:03,889 Then, she would lure her dates to out of the way motel rooms. 774 00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:08,627 To us. 775 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:11,363 NARRATOR: A little soft music, a good bottle of wine, 776 00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:13,565 and the stage was set for Carolyn's entrance. 777 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,637 Sit down on the bed. 778 00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:20,238 NARRATOR: The Thelma and Louise bandits 779 00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:22,508 moved quickly and methodically. 780 00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:23,675 Now take off your clothes. 781 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:27,546 [click] 782 00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:29,581 [moan] 783 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:31,917 I'm going to the bank. 784 00:37:32,017 --> 00:37:32,984 Guess I'll see-- 785 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:34,753 Finally, Carolyn would be left to stand 786 00:37:34,853 --> 00:37:37,423 guard while Rose ran out to use a victim's 787 00:37:37,523 --> 00:37:40,158 bank and credit cards. 788 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:43,495 Rose and Carolyn, from the onset, 789 00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:46,832 wanted to be the real life Thelma and Louise. 790 00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:51,069 They wanted to experience that thrill and the spontaneity. 791 00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:53,104 And only thing is I don't believe 792 00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:54,406 they ever considered what they were 793 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,407 going to do to their families. 794 00:37:58,377 --> 00:37:59,878 NARRATOR: Over a three month period, 795 00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:01,547 Rose and Carolyn reportedly robbed 796 00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:04,916 at least 10 men and more than a quarter of a million dollars. 797 00:38:05,016 --> 00:38:06,718 But eventually, their luck ran out. 798 00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:14,025 In March of 1995, Rose and Carolyn were arrested. 799 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:18,530 Bail was set at $250,000 each. 800 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:19,865 CLEMENT ROMEO (VOICEOVER): It seems 801 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:23,535 as though, prior to both Rose and Carolyn going to jail 802 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:28,374 and being arrested, they had this pact that, if one got out, 803 00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:32,444 they both got out or they both stayed in. 804 00:38:32,544 --> 00:38:39,385 And Rose's parents were just going to get Rose out of jail. 805 00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:42,253 Look, I'm sorry I have to keep calling you. 806 00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:45,391 But Avery is putting pressure on me. 807 00:38:45,491 --> 00:38:47,459 NARRATOR: In an attempt to cajole Rose's family 808 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,595 into posting bail for both of them, 809 00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:51,997 Carolyn phoned Rose's parents repeatedly. 810 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:53,264 To hurt the kids. 811 00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:55,200 NARRATOR: She Claimed that a mysterious international 812 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,536 private investigator named Avery was 813 00:38:57,636 --> 00:38:59,638 threatening Rose's children. 814 00:38:59,738 --> 00:39:01,907 Well, Rose and I know what he's capable of, 815 00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:04,142 and we should all take him seriously. 816 00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:05,310 CLEMENT ROMEO (VOICEOVER): Probably 817 00:39:05,411 --> 00:39:07,913 the weirdest part of this whole scenario 818 00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:11,783 was the man named Avery. 819 00:39:11,883 --> 00:39:15,587 I never bought that he was real. 820 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:23,429 It was just too far-fetched. 821 00:39:23,529 --> 00:39:24,730 NARRATOR: Rose's family, however, 822 00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:26,565 believed Avery was real. 823 00:39:26,665 --> 00:39:29,234 Even her in-laws were moved to act. 824 00:39:29,334 --> 00:39:30,802 They put up their house and restaurant 825 00:39:30,902 --> 00:39:32,971 as partial collateral. 826 00:39:33,071 --> 00:39:34,205 CLEMENT ROMEO (VOICEOVER): I tried 827 00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:38,610 to convince that the parents don't make both bonds. 828 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:43,214 And it's not often that you sit and try to speak to someone 829 00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:46,051 about not giving you $250,000. 830 00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:48,153 But I just knew it was a problem, 831 00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:50,155 and I knew it wasn't going to work. 832 00:39:50,255 --> 00:39:53,124 And it didn't. 833 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,126 NARRATOR: Sure enough, on May 22nd 834 00:39:55,226 --> 00:39:59,531 1985, Rose Turford and Carolyn Stevens took flight. 835 00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:01,467 Left behind was a letter which alleged 836 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:04,135 that they had been kidnapped by the mysterious Avery. 837 00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,477 In reality, the Thelma and Louise bandits were on the run, 838 00:40:11,577 --> 00:40:14,145 leaving Rose's in-laws in danger of losing 839 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:17,348 their home and business. 840 00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:21,119 We wanted to help in any way we could. 841 00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:28,193 I never once, once entered my mind that they 842 00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:31,797 would disappear, never. 843 00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:33,164 CLEMENT ROMEO (VOICEOVER): I really 844 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:37,769 hope that Rose and Carolyn just stop and think they're going 845 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:40,839 to basically throw really, really 846 00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:45,076 good honest, hardworking people out in the streets. 847 00:40:45,176 --> 00:40:47,713 And if they have to go to jail, well, 848 00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:51,316 that's just kind of the price you pay for making a mistake. 849 00:40:51,416 --> 00:40:52,651 But it's a lot better to pay a price 850 00:40:52,751 --> 00:40:56,588 once than to pay it all your life and make your kids 851 00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:59,591 and your family suffer for their lifetime. 852 00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:02,494 [music playing] 853 00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:30,188 [eerie music] 854 00:41:35,761 --> 00:41:38,797 NARRATOR: Join me next time for another intriguing addition 855 00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:41,199 of Unsolved Mysteries. 856 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:28,346 [filmrise sound effect] 67119

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