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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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[music playing]
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NARRATOR: It's known
as the Gurdon light.
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For more than 60 years,
the same eerie luminous
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apparition that's been described
by hundreds of eyewitnesses.
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Is it some as yet unexplained
natural phenomenon,
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or is it, as many
say, a restless ghost
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of a long dead railroad
man doomed to wander
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the tracks for eternity?
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This man, Stuart
Heaton, was convicted
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of murdering a 16-year-old
girl largely on the strength
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of DNA test results.
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But all along, Heaton has
claimed that he is innocent.
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The DNA tests were flawed.
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And some prominent scientific
experts agree with him.
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Call them the real life
Thelma and Louise, on the road
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and on the run.
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A middle class wife and
mother and her best friend
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allegedly thrilled in seducing,
terrorizing, and robbing men
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they met through the personals.
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Also tonight a
heartwarming read reel
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brought about by your calls.
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Join me for another edition
of Unsolved Mysteries.
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[eerie music]
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Welcome to Gurdon,
Arkansas, population 2,700,
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a typical small town,
apparently no different
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from hundreds of
other communities
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that dot the railroad
between St. Louis and Dallas.
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But as darkness descends,
an air of expectancy
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settles over Gurdon.
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Most nights, the
locals anticipate
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the arrival of their very
own unsolved mystery.
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For decades, on the tracks
just outside of town,
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an eerie unexplained
light of unknown origin
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has been magically appearing.
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This time lapse
photograph was taken
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in November by an Unsolved
Mysteries photographer.
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It is apparently the first time
that the strange phenomenon,
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known locally as
the Gurdon light,
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has been captured on film.
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A few days later, the
photographer returned
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to the railroad tracks.
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He waited until nightfall and
recorded this mysterious light
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on videotape.
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This is an enlargement
of the image,
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the same image seen by hundreds
of eyewitnesses over the years.
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I'd say that I've seen it
where I couldn't write it off
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as being anything else
probably 20, 25 times at least,
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and I'm a very skeptical person.
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Over the years,
I have personally
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seen it hundreds of times
with my father and my family.
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I've seen the light
at least 60 or 70 times.
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And of course,
usually when you see
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it one time in that
evening, you can see
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it several times in succession.
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NARRATOR: What is
the Gurdon light?
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A natural phenomenon?
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A long running prank?
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Or perhaps something
that cannot be explained?
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Not surprising, that
possibility inevitably
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prompts a retelling of
the legend that goes
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along with the Gurdon light.
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It all began on a chilly
December evening in 1931.
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Around midnight, Will
McLean, a section
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foreman for the railroad
confronted one of his workers
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Louis McBride.
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I got something
I need to tell you.
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And I wan-- it doesn't
concern any of you boys.
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Now, go on and clock out.
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NARRATOR: The day before,
a freight train had
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derailed just outside Gurdon.
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McLean suspected that
McBride had sabotaged
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a section of the track.
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This is your last
night, McBride.
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Get your pay and
get on out of here.
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Why?
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- I think you know why.
- I need this job.
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Well, you should've
thought about before you
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pulled that crazy little stunt.
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But I have a fami--
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I don't want to hear
any more about it.
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Just pick up your pay
and get off the yard.
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I need this job.
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[grunt]
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[inaudible] [grunts]
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[music playing]
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[scrambling]
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No!
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NARRATOR: When McLean
failed to return home,
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a search party was
hastily assembled.
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They came upon a trail of
blood and followed it along
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the tracks to the edge of town.
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What is that?
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It's McLean's.
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Please look off down yonder.
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NARRATOR: At the
end of the blood
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trail lay the body
of Will McLean.
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By dawn, Lewis McBride had
confessed to the murder.
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In February of 1932,
he was executed
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at the state penitentiary.
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It wasn't long before people
began seeing the Gurdon
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light on a regular basis.
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Local lore said it
was the ghost of Will
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McLean doomed to
spend eternity walking
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the tracks with his lantern.
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[train]
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One of the earliest sightings
is one of the most memorable--
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as a train approached
town, an elderly conductor
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named John stepped on to
the back of the caboose
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and was startled by what he saw.
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They say that John went
out on the back platform
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to investigate, and the light
was real far off and kind of
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faint.
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But it seemed to be traveling
the same speed they were.
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And then all of a
sudden, it just shut up,
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and he's just like
paralyzed and just hanging
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onto the grab bar
and just transfixed,
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staring right into the light.
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NARRATOR: According to
John, the light followed
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the train for more than a mile.
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Finally, it veered off in the
direction of the cemetery.
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Ever since, looking
for the Gurdon light
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has become something
of a local pastime.
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If can go down there
with some regularity,
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you're definitely going
to see it after a while.
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You may go a few days, you
know, where you get frustrated
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and you don't see it.
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But with a little time and
a little concentration,
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you most definitely
will see the light.
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My friends and I always went
down there with the hopes
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of seeing the light.
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And walking down the tracks just
in the total darkness always
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left you with a
little eerie feeling.
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I've seen it come
on in a quick flash.
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I've seen it fade in
and then fade back out.
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And sometimes we've
gotten pretty scared
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down there, seeing the
light together with maybe
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some noises in the woods.
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Have us seen us running
out of there quite often.
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NARRATOR: The
descriptions of the light
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are for the most
part consistent.
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It seems to float one to
three feet above the tracks
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and often changes colors.
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The light is rarely visible for
more than 10 seconds at a time.
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There are many times when I
walk down the tracks by myself
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and spent several
hours out there.
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And during the
course of that time,
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you can be observing the
light and move toward it
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and it'll disappear.
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And you'll turn around,
and it'll be behind you.
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Almost everybody has had that
kind of experience from time
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to time with it.
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The local legend is,
if it gets behind you,
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you can't get back to your car.
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The whole town has seen
it at some point in time.
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And it's not a figment
of anybody's imagination.
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It does exist.
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It is there.
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What is it?
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That's the question.
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NARRATOR: That is
indeed the question.
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Is the Gurdon light, as some
believe, the ghost of Will
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McLean or is there a rational
scientific explanation?
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You cross Highway 53--
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NARRATOR: For years, Dr. Charles
Leming, a physics professor
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at Henderson State University,
took his classes to Gurdon
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in search of an answer.
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When I first went out
to see the Gurdon light
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and studied the area maps,
I was pretty confident
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that the light always
originated from car
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headlights on an interstate
bridge a few miles away.
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NARRATOR: The light is
usually seen in this area
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just outside Gurdon.
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The highway lies to the
southwest, four miles away.
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The problem with
the headlight theory
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is that we're sure people were
going out before the interstate
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opened in 1970.
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We could find reliable accounts
of people that went out just
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to see the Gurdon light and
reported the Gurdon light well
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before the interstate bridge
that we thought was the origin
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of the headlights was opened.
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Hop up here and take a look--
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NARRATOR: A second theory is
that the light is in fact swamp
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gas, a spontaneous
combustion of the gas
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is produced when dense
vegetation decomposes.
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It's down that way, too.
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The theory of
it being swamp gas
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doesn't hold up to
me just because I've
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seen it on a windy night.
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So that would eliminate any
sort of swamp gas out there.
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The The closest theory
that I've come to
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for explaining the
Gurdon light is the
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piezoelectric electric effect.
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And piezoelectricity
is a simple phenomena,
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where if you squeeze crystals,
such as quartz or Rochelle salt
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you get an electric
current out of them.
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NARRATOR: Gurdon sits atop
an abundant deposit of quartz
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crystals and an active fault
line known as the New Madrid
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Fault. Michael Clingan believes
that, when the plates shift,
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an electric charge is
released from the crystals
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and seen above ground
as the Gurdon Light.
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People tend to say that the
light appeared after the murder
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of Will McLean.
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And looking back,
that also coincides
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with a major earthquake on
the New Madrid Fault Line.
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So that tends to support
my piezoelectric theory.
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NARRATOR: Clingan
acknowledges that there is
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one large hole in his theory.
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He cannot explain how
that charge migrates
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to the surface or why
it is concentrated
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in a ball-like shape.
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I don't think
if they came forth
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with the logical explanation
I would truly believe it.
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It is too mysterious,
and I don't
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think it can be explained.
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Do we really want
to know what it is?
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Because that would take
all the mystery out
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of it and all the fun.
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And I would like to see my
children's children take
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their children down there
just like our parents took us
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down there.
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It's a perfect setting
for a ghost story.
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NARRATOR: What is the
secret of the Gurdon Light?
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If there is a
scientific explanation,
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it has certainly eluded
everyone for the past 60 years.
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Until something
better comes along,
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we're left with the legend
poor old Will McLean's ghost
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wandering the railroad tracks
forever more perhaps in search
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of the man who killed him.
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When we return, a controversial
case of Stuart Heaton.
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Did fault DNA evidence put the
wrong man in prison for murder?
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[eerie music]
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In recent months, most
of us have at least
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heard the legal debate over
the use of DNA evidence
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in criminal cases.
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Many experts believe DNA
can identify a suspect
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as reliably as a fingerprint.
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Others strongly disagree.
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Tonight that debate
has a special resonance
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for a young man
named Stuart Heaton.
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He is serving a life
sentence for murder
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even though many
believe there is
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compelling evidence that
another man committed the crime.
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Stuart insists that
he is innocent,
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and that crucial
DNA evidence, which
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some say is deeply flawed,
helped put him behind bars.
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Ramsey, Illinois in the south
central part of the state
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is a peaceful rural community.
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But on July 23rd, 1991, a brutal
murder shocked its citizens.
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16-year-old Krystal Nabb,
a high school sophomore,
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had been stabbed 81
times in the living
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room of her family's trailer.
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Right.
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What do you got there?
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Well, I think I have
your murder weapon.
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Looks like a pair
of sewing scissors.
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Now, I'll tell
you the person who
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did this can't stab somebody
that many times without getting
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cuts on your hands.
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Look for somebody with cuts
either on the outside of
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their fingers or on their palm.
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I wonder if you happened
to see anything suspicious--
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NARRATOR: Several neighbors
told police they have noticed
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a pickup truck, most
probably a Dodge parked
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outside the Nabb's trailer
earlier that day from around
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10:00 AM to 3:00 PM.
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Said like a
Dodge pickup truck.
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Do you know anybody that
has a truck like that?
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NARRATOR: Next, the police
talked with Krystal brother,
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Curtis Nabb.
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A friend of mine.
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I haven't seen him for like
two or three years, though.
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Stuart Heaton.
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Stuart Heaton.
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Do you happen to know where
this Stuart Heaton lives?
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He used live all
three miles up the road.
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Uh-huh.
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Is he married?
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I don't know.
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OK, you haven't seen
him in that long, though?
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Two or three years?
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Yeah, it's been at
least two, three years.
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OK.
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Good evening.
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NARRATOR: Police
located Stewart Heaton
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in nearby Bluff City,
Illinois, where he worked
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as a carpenter and roofer.
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He did, in fact, own
a white Dodge pickup
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and had married two years
earlier several months after he
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lost touch with Curtis Nabb.
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Mr. Heaton, if you'd step out
on the porch just for a second.
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What do you want to ask me?
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Mr. Heaton, would you put
your hands behind your back?
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- What for?
- Mr. Heaton.
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What are you doing?
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I just want to ask you
a couple of questions.
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What is going on here?
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- I haven't done anything wrong.
- We're just going to take you--
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Can you explain what's
going on here, please?
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--and ask you a few questions.
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That's all.
- Stuart.
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Hey, Karen.
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Karen, call my mom.
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Where are they taking you?
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The police station.
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Where'd you get these
cuts on your hands, Stuart?
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MALE: And flashing.
- I'm laying a roof.
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You sometimes bang
your hands when
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you're working in construction.
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Hold real still for me, OK?
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[inaudible]
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Both on the outer
and on the palms, too.
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What about this one
on your forehead?
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Did you--
- It's not a cut.
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It's a pimple.
- Yeah?
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Take a shot of that, Tom.?
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- Can I put my hands down now?
- Just a second.
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Lean down, Stuart.
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Just hold real still.
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We got to know a little
bit about what you did today.
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What was your day like?
When did you wake up?
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Where'd you go?
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I left my house at 9:00.
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I gave an estimate
for a roofing job.
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Where'd you give
the estimate, Stuart?
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Look, why am I
answering these questions?
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I haven't done anything wrong.
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He doesn't know he's here.
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He's done anything wrong.
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The two crime scene
technicians came back and told
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me, this guy has the cuts.
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This is our man
from the beginning.
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And for a while, though, that
was all we had connecting him
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to the crime scene, where
the cuts-- there was just
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too big of a
coincidence for them
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to say that the guy
we're looking for
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is going to have this.
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And the suspect they
picked up immediately
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had exactly what they
said we would find.
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I know for a fact
that I'm innocent.
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Nobody else may know for a
fact, bit I know for a fact.
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If they were half the
investigator that he would lead
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the public to
believe, then he would
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have checked and found out I'll
always have cuts on my hand.
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You know, there wasn't
nothing abnormal.
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A carpenter without cuts on
his hands is not a carpenter.
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He's an observer.
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And I'm a carpenter.
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We were told that
he had been picked up.
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Stuart Heaton had been
picked up for her murder.
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And afterwards, we
learned that there
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was a possibility
because he had cuts
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on his hands, his forehead.
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He had a mark on his
leg, and they started
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doing some investigation.
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And people had seen his truck.
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Step inside.
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NARRATOR: Stuart Heaton was
indicted on September 11, 1991.
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He voluntarily waived his
right to a speedy trial.
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After a search
warrant was obtained,
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police took a blood sample
from Stuart for DNA testing.
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An autopsy had been
performed on Krysta Nabb.
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She was three months
pregnant, and a trace
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of dried yellow material,
which contains semen,
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was found in her pubic hair.
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Krystal's boyfriend had been
eliminated as a suspect.
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The authorities wanted
to find out if the semen
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matched Stuart Heaton's DNA.
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For more than four months,
Stuart languished in jail,
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awaiting the DNA test
results, which he felt would
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exonerate him once and for all.
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Heaton?
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Yes, sir.
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You got a delivery.
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Thank you.
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NARRATOR: However, when
his lawyer forwarded
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the test results,
they were not what
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Stuart Heaton had hoped for.
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There was a chance that
Stuart's DNA did match the semen
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sample found on Krystal's body.
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In spite of this, Stuart
remained optimistic.
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I didn't know as much
about DNA and genetic testing
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then as I do now.
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But when I read that, I looked
at that and I hung on to that.
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And I said, there's
only a chance, you know?
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This test isn't exact.
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They can't say, oh, it matches.
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I mean, they said
there was a chance.
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In my mind, reasonable doubt.
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I had read all that.
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I knew there was no way.
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And when I looked at it, I
thought, uh-uh, it's not him.
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Besides all the other
forensic evidence--
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they had 25 pages of hair, skin,
tissue, blood, fingerprints.
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And not a one was Stuart's.
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You couldn't be.
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00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:42,715
It's an impossibility to
be in a place from 10:00
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in the morning to
3:00 in the afternoon
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and not leave something.
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00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,989
And there's nobody smart
enough to clean up theirs--
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just theirs and leave
everybody else's.
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00:19:51,858 --> 00:19:52,659
Uh-uh.
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00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:53,526
It's impossible.
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00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:56,229
It can't be done.
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NARRATOR: The Dodge pickup
and the cuts on Stuart's hands
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notwithstanding,
he and his family
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were confident going
into the trial,
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00:20:03,002 --> 00:20:05,905
but they would be
sorely disappointed.
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00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:07,607
Curtis Nabb,
Krystal's brother,
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00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:09,876
gave damaging testimony.
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00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:12,111
He claimed that one night,
between two and three years
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00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,514
earlier, he'd found Stuart
in the Nabb's trailer
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00:20:14,614 --> 00:20:16,683
with his older sister Melanie.
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INTERVIEWER: Now, when you say
he was talking your sister,
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where was he located in
the trailer at that time?
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In the bedroom.
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00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:24,391
INTERVIEWER: And
where was your sister?
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In the bedroom.
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Of course, his testimony
was completely different
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00:20:28,361 --> 00:20:30,196
from his mom's on that.
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00:20:30,297 --> 00:20:37,103
He said he answered the
door, and that I came in.
427
00:20:37,203 --> 00:20:41,240
He asked me to leave
and all this and that.
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00:20:41,341 --> 00:20:44,444
I think even at one point
he said that he woke up
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and I was there.
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00:20:46,012 --> 00:20:49,816
But that night, when I stopped
by, his mom answered the door.
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00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,217
I asked for Curtis.
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00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:55,288
She went and got Curtis, and we
sat down at the kitchen table
433
00:20:55,388 --> 00:20:58,558
and drank a couple
of beers and talked.
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They asked me three times--
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00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:01,294
NARRATOR: Stuart's
wife was called
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00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:04,864
by the prosecution as a hostile
witness, as was his mother.
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00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:06,933
Their testimony
indicated that Stuart
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00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,769
might have changed clothes
on the day of the murder.
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00:21:09,869 --> 00:21:12,639
I can tell you that in the
morning he had a t-shirt on.
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00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:14,474
But as far as, you
know, pants and stuff,
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I'd have to sweat pants because
he couldn't fit in his jeans.
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00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,447
Why all of a sudden, now,
do you just say sweat pants?
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00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:21,914
Because I--
444
00:21:22,014 --> 00:21:24,183
NARRATOR: The prosecution's
theorized that Stuart had
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00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,986
hidden a pair of blue jeans,
bloodied during the murder
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00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:28,220
of Krystal Nabb.
447
00:21:28,321 --> 00:21:29,389
No further
questions, your honor.
448
00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:35,094
NARRATOR: Two witnesses,
one woman and one man,
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took the stand to establish an
alibi for Stuart between 10:00
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AM and 3:00 PM on the
day of the murder,
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00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,703
but the prosecutor shot
holes in their testimony.
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00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,908
Against his family's
advice, Stuart decided not
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00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:51,544
to testify on his own behalf.
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He says his court
appointed lawyer had not
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prepared him to take the stand.
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Stuart also says his
religion teaches that faith
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00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:02,121
must be put in God rather than
on any individual including
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00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:03,723
oneself.
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00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:05,525
With regard to
the semen samples--
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NARRATOR: As the capstone
of the prosecution's case,
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an expert witness
testified that there
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00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:12,264
was a probability
that Stuart Heaton's
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DNA matched the semen sample.
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00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:19,572
The DNA profile found in
this case that matches the DNA
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00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:23,175
profile of Mr. Heaton
would be expected
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00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:28,881
to be found once
out of every 52,600
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00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:32,585
non-related Caucasians tested.
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00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:34,954
NARRATOR: Those odds
relative to other cases
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where DNA has been used as
evidence are not in fact
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very impressive.
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The odds needed
before many experts
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00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:43,229
feel comfortable are
more in the neighborhood
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of a million to one.
474
00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:48,200
Nevertheless, the jury found
the prosecution's expert
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convincing.
476
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:53,372
The jury has returned
two signed verdicts.
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00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:56,308
First, signed
verdict-- we the jury
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00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:59,912
find the defendant Stuart Heaton
guilty of first degree murder,
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00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,981
count one.
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STUART HEATON: I was expecting
a not guilty verdict.
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And after I left
the courtroom, I
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00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:10,623
got across to the county jail in
there with family and friends.
483
00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:13,593
And at that point, I cried.
484
00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:16,095
Held on to my wife and I cried.
485
00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:20,467
And we decided we'd go
on and keep fighting it.
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00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,435
I don't quit.
487
00:23:22,535 --> 00:23:26,072
I feel for the family
that lost their child.
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00:23:26,172 --> 00:23:30,009
I am not that kind of person.
489
00:23:30,109 --> 00:23:33,480
I know-- I know what
it is to lose a child.
490
00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:37,950
And they had to hurt bad.
491
00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,019
But the worst thing
that could happen
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00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,890
was put the wrong
man in prison part.
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NARRATOR: Stuart was
sentenced to life in prison
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at the Menard Correctional
Center in Chester, Illinois.
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00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:51,130
The judge ruled
that Stuart would
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00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:52,799
never be eligible for parole.
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00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:59,071
I am convinced that the
DNA evidence in this case
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00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:02,308
was the linchpin of
the prosecution's case,
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00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:06,746
that without it, the prosecution
had a weak circumstantial case.
500
00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:11,718
Jurors were wowed by the
scientific evidence of 52,000
501
00:24:11,818 --> 00:24:15,387
to one odds against Stuart
Heaton and that did it.
502
00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,023
In the end of the
day, a weak case
503
00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:20,226
was made a strong one
based on this evidence,
504
00:24:20,326 --> 00:24:22,995
that I believe is
phony evidence.
505
00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:25,698
NARRATOR: David Protess is
an investigative journalist
506
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:27,800
and professor at
Northwestern University
507
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,036
in Evanston, Illinois.
508
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,738
His research has
led him to conclude
509
00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:34,073
that the real criminal
is still at large
510
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:37,376
and that Stuart
Heaton was railroaded.
511
00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,978
If he hadn't
owned a white truck,
512
00:24:39,078 --> 00:24:42,048
he wouldn't have even been
a suspect in this case.
513
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:44,283
I did a search through the
Department of Motor Vehicle
514
00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:45,818
records for the
state of Illinois
515
00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:47,453
that found that,
in Fayette County
516
00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:50,189
alone, there were more
than 100 white trucks that
517
00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,992
were similar to the kind
that Stuart Heaton drove.
518
00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:54,927
And in fact, in narrowing
that search down,
519
00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:57,997
I identified 12
white Dodge Dakotas,
520
00:24:58,097 --> 00:24:59,699
including Stuart Heaton's.
521
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,068
One of those dodge
Dakotas belonged to a man
522
00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:04,604
with a lengthy criminal
history who knew the murder
523
00:25:04,704 --> 00:25:07,506
victim, Krystal Nabb.
524
00:25:07,607 --> 00:25:10,176
Could the DNA sample
found on Krystal Nabb's have
525
00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:13,112
belonged to someone
other than Stuart Heaton?
526
00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:16,448
According to the statistical
method used in Stuart's trial,
527
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:19,218
there are more than 4,800
people in the United States
528
00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,954
whose DNA would have
matched the sample.
529
00:25:22,054 --> 00:25:24,523
And when a new statistical
method widely used today
530
00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:31,130
is applied, that number rises
from 4,800 to around 48,000.
531
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:34,967
There's no dispute that DNA
evidence to exclude somebody
532
00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:36,936
is generally accepted.
533
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:41,107
If we look just at one place
on a gene and they don't match,
534
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,710
then we know that those
people don't match.
535
00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:46,613
The problem is when you
try to include people.
536
00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:49,015
We can prove, for example,
that somebody isn't the father
537
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,819
of a child by DNA tests and
we can prove that to 100%
538
00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:55,054
scientific acceptability.
539
00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:56,823
But when we try to
prove who is the father,
540
00:25:56,923 --> 00:26:00,760
who is the murderer-- that's
where we run into difficulties.
541
00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,896
NARRATOR: Bob Byman and his
associate Shelley Malinowski
542
00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:08,467
have taken on the Stuart
case pro-bono for no fee.
543
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,903
They believe not only
that Stuart is innocent,
544
00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:14,841
but that Dr. Robert Allen, the
DNA expert for the prosecution,
545
00:26:14,941 --> 00:26:17,309
used a controversial
method of calculating
546
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:19,545
the odds against Stuart.
547
00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:22,949
Two Two years after he testified
in the Stuart Heaton case,
548
00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:25,151
Robert Allen
published an article
549
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:28,220
with several other renowned
scientists that rejected
550
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,356
the statistical
assumptions that he himself
551
00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:33,192
had used in the Stuart
Heaton evidence.
552
00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:35,828
And I think that the main
reason that he was convicted
553
00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,497
was that the jurors were
completely overwhelmed
554
00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:41,701
by the complexity
of the DNA evidence,
555
00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:46,572
and they saw it as infallible,
when in fact it's not.
556
00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:49,642
To across the board, deny
the use of DNA evidence
557
00:26:49,742 --> 00:26:53,279
because it's low, I
believe, is not fair.
558
00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:55,247
I think that it should,
in fact, be admissible
559
00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:56,816
and here that's
what a jury is for.
560
00:26:56,916 --> 00:27:00,386
As a trier of the fact, let them
determine whether the odds are
561
00:27:00,486 --> 00:27:02,588
low in relation to
everything else and all
562
00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:06,492
the other evidence in the case
or whether they're significant.
563
00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:09,061
This probe here represents--
564
00:27:09,161 --> 00:27:10,730
NARRATOR: The single
most important issue
565
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:13,632
in the DNA testimony of
Stuart Heaton's trial
566
00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:16,903
was interpretation
of the evidence.
567
00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:19,471
This is an autoradiogram,
or autorad,
568
00:27:19,571 --> 00:27:22,942
of DNA taken from the murder
victim of Krystal Nabb.
569
00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:26,445
The two distinct
bands represent DNA
570
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,180
from a region in
which individuals
571
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,417
are very likely to be
different genetically.
572
00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:35,087
Juxtapose and other DNA sample
taken from a different area
573
00:27:35,187 --> 00:27:38,057
on Krystal Nabb's body
and the two bands also
574
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,425
show up clearly--
575
00:27:39,525 --> 00:27:41,794
a perfect match
because both samples
576
00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:42,995
come from the same person.
577
00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,801
The trial boiled down to a
debate between two expert
578
00:27:48,901 --> 00:27:50,536
witnesses over
whether bands were
579
00:27:50,636 --> 00:27:54,106
present in the semen sample
found on Krystal Nabb's body.
580
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,475
And if they were, did
they match the bands
581
00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:59,912
of Stuart Heaton's DNA profile?
582
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:03,549
This autorad compares
Stuart Heaton's DNA with DNA
583
00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:05,384
from the semen sample.
584
00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:08,054
The small pen point
dots on the left borders
585
00:28:08,154 --> 00:28:11,490
mark the places where Dr. Allen
said he saw bands which link
586
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:14,927
Stuart Heaton to the semen.
587
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:18,330
Based upon your examination
of the radiographs--
588
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:20,699
NARRATOR: The defense
expert, Dr. Gary Litman,
589
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,535
said he was only able to
detect those critical bands.
590
00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:24,804
As I said, there's no band.
591
00:28:24,904 --> 00:28:27,373
There simply is no band there.
592
00:28:27,473 --> 00:28:30,877
The sample itself was
old, crusty material
593
00:28:30,977 --> 00:28:32,444
that was minute in quantity.
594
00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:35,381
It probably did not
provide an adequate basis
595
00:28:35,481 --> 00:28:38,851
for even conducting a DNA test
and certainly not the type
596
00:28:38,951 --> 00:28:41,788
of DNA test that was done here.
597
00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:44,757
We unearthed a letter
in which, prior
598
00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:47,359
to his reaching
conclusions, Dr. Robert
599
00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:50,196
Allen said that he hoped--
600
00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:53,165
he hoped that the
DNA test would end
601
00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:55,101
up implicating Stuart Heaton.
602
00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:57,736
Now, that is
scientific subjectivity
603
00:28:57,837 --> 00:29:01,941
that should disqualify him
as an expert in this case.
604
00:29:02,041 --> 00:29:04,076
I'm certain that Dr. Allen
did the best that he could
605
00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:07,379
with what was available to
him, but that material simply
606
00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:09,748
wasn't in the best condition.
607
00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:12,551
And it didn't lead, then,
to very clear cut results.
608
00:29:12,651 --> 00:29:14,586
There was a lot of smudges.
609
00:29:14,686 --> 00:29:17,589
It's difficult to
say unambiguously
610
00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:21,427
that a band is present
and a band is not present.
611
00:29:21,527 --> 00:29:24,463
NARRATOR: Dr. Dan Krane has
coauthored articles on DNA
612
00:29:24,563 --> 00:29:26,966
testing with Dr. Robert Allen.
613
00:29:27,066 --> 00:29:28,835
Yet in the case
of Stuart Heaton,
614
00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:32,972
Dr. Krane disputes the
conclusions of his colleague.
615
00:29:33,072 --> 00:29:35,007
Based on the DNA
evidence alone,
616
00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:38,644
I would feel very uncomfortable
sending a man to prison
617
00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:40,346
on that evidence alone.
618
00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:42,581
Now, there may well have been
other compelling evidence
619
00:29:42,681 --> 00:29:46,518
of which I'm not aware of,
but the DNA evidence by itself
620
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:50,923
certainly would leave a large
area of doubt in my mind
621
00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:53,292
as to whether or not that
he was in fact the person
622
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,527
who was at that crime scene.
623
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,197
I mean, it wasn't just
DNA that convicted him.
624
00:29:58,297 --> 00:30:01,100
It was people that saw
him, saw that truck,
625
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,302
and people that
testified, you know,
626
00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:05,537
where they saw him at the times.
627
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:09,608
And I mean, people that
saw the truck at the home.
628
00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:11,010
That's what I think
helped convict
629
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,312
him-- that plus the DNA.
630
00:30:13,412 --> 00:30:15,314
There's no doubt
in my mind, no doubt
631
00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:16,849
whatsoever, that he killed her.
632
00:30:16,949 --> 00:30:20,219
He killed her in an extremely
vicious, sick manner.
633
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,588
He's extremely dangerous.
634
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:24,290
He has to be locked up.
635
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:28,127
If he is released, I do believe
that he will kill again.
636
00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:29,328
He has to be locked up.
637
00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,899
And the court system
worked, and it worked right.
638
00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:36,535
I did not kill Krystal Nabb.
639
00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:38,971
I don't know the girl.
640
00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:45,177
I don't have any reason to have
any grudge against her or her
641
00:30:45,277 --> 00:30:49,048
family or anything.
642
00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:50,516
I didn't know her.
643
00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:58,557
NARRATOR: When we return, two
sisters are joyfully reunited
644
00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:00,192
after more than 20 years apart.
645
00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:06,098
[eerie music]
646
00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:15,241
In June of 1994, we brought
you the poignant story
647
00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:18,744
of Diane Hahnlein of La
Crescenta, California.
648
00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:22,448
Since 1986, Diane has battled
a rare and often fatal
649
00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:23,315
blood disease.
650
00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:31,290
Diane has a relatively
unusual blood disorder normally
651
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:35,694
considered to be an incurable
illness, now potentially
652
00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:39,398
could be cured by the
utilization of a bone marrow
653
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:42,468
transplantation, fraught
with a lot of dangers,
654
00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:46,072
though, and a lot of potential
complications and not something
655
00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:49,308
to be taken lightly.
656
00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:52,244
NARRATOR: Only one person,
Diana's younger sister Marilyn,
657
00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:54,746
was a potential
bone marrow donor.
658
00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:57,183
But Diane had no idea
where to find Marilyn.
659
00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:00,619
Hi.
660
00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:03,089
Hi.
661
00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:05,724
NARRATOR: The sisters
have been split up in 1954
662
00:32:05,824 --> 00:32:09,061
when their parents separated.
663
00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:11,230
Marilyn went to live
with their father.
664
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,332
Diana stayed with her mother.
665
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:16,202
Over the next few years,
contact was sporadic.
666
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,170
And for reasons long
since forgotten,
667
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:22,308
the sisters came estranged.
668
00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,311
I feel I'm asking a lot
of my sister to do this bone
669
00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:29,781
marrow for me, but even if she
doesn't agree to a transplant,
670
00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:31,917
if she doesn't and says,
I don't want to do this,
671
00:32:32,018 --> 00:32:35,087
I would still like to
make peace with her.
672
00:32:35,187 --> 00:32:35,988
She's my sister.
673
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:42,694
When we broadcast Diane's
story, a private investigator
674
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,596
from Denver,
Colorado, Robin Lee,
675
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,533
was Watching she was
touched by Diane's plight,
676
00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:50,036
as assumed we would get
the clues we needed.
677
00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:51,370
We didn't.
678
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:53,272
As luck would have it,
Robin was also watching
679
00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:55,741
when the segment reran in June.
680
00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,909
This time she decided
to volunteer her help
681
00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:00,012
in tracking Marilyn down.
682
00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:04,183
The result was one of our
most unusual solves ever.
683
00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:08,587
I contacted the show, got
a little more information,
684
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:11,090
started out with
the sisters' name.
685
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:12,924
Marilyn Jones was
her maiden name--
686
00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:17,196
started with that and a date of
birth and went on from there.
687
00:33:17,296 --> 00:33:20,266
And it took me about three days
to find her, three working days
688
00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:24,803
if you don't count 4th of
July holiday in between.
689
00:33:24,903 --> 00:33:26,472
And I think it's great
that they're back together.
690
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:32,444
NARRATOR: On August 30th,
1994, Marilyn and Diana
691
00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,314
met face to face for the
first time in 30 years.
692
00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:41,820
It's so good to see you.
693
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,555
FEMALE (VOICEOVER):
Once we hugged,
694
00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:45,824
it was like it
hadn't been 30 years.
695
00:33:45,924 --> 00:33:50,496
It had been, you know,
just a short time.
696
00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:53,199
I guess maybe that's why
I feel comfortable-- is
697
00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:56,502
because I can feel the love.
698
00:33:56,602 --> 00:33:58,737
And when you feel that
love, you feel comfortable.
699
00:33:58,837 --> 00:33:59,871
You haven't changed a bit.
700
00:33:59,971 --> 00:34:00,772
Oh, no.
701
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,709
[laughs] No, I'm just--
702
00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:04,810
I get cuter with age.
703
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:05,711
Yeah, you do.
704
00:34:05,811 --> 00:34:06,878
Yes, you do.
705
00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:08,180
DIANE (VOICEOVER): I
think I'm still in shock.
706
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,448
You know, I still like--
707
00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,816
you know, I'm not here yet.
708
00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:12,518
It's just a dream.
709
00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:14,153
You know, but it's
a great dream,
710
00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:16,688
and we have a lot of
catching up to do.
711
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:20,126
And we'll be
together forever now.
712
00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:21,827
We're going to have a
lot of fun together.
713
00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:24,363
Enjoy the time we have.
714
00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:27,166
Isn't that beautiful?
715
00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:29,301
NARRATOR: Coincidentally,
the day of the reunion
716
00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:33,339
was Diane's 53rd birthday,
and Marilyn had not forgotten.
717
00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:35,341
It's beautiful.
718
00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,843
And my name is spelled right.
719
00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:42,548
[laughs] That's a [inaudible].
720
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,882
DIANE (VOICEOVER):
This is the best gift
721
00:34:43,982 --> 00:34:45,517
I've ever had in my whole life.
722
00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:47,686
This is the best gift ever--
723
00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:52,658
is to have my sister and to
have my family for my birthday.
724
00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:55,494
It will be the best birthday
I've ever had in my whole life.
725
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:56,928
[laughs]
726
00:34:57,028 --> 00:34:58,830
We drive 60 miles to go--
727
00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,166
NARRATOR: On the
day of the reunion,
728
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,435
Marilyn's fondest wish was
to prove a compatible bone
729
00:35:03,535 --> 00:35:05,671
marrow donor for her sister.
730
00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:07,273
Do I have to go to the movies?
731
00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:08,540
Oh, to the movies,
we have to go all
732
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,775
the way to Canada and that's--
733
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,344
[laughs] that's the closest--
734
00:35:12,444 --> 00:35:13,879
MARILYN (VOICEOVER): I
want more than anything
735
00:35:13,979 --> 00:35:17,249
to have this work Diane.
736
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:18,917
But even if it
doesn't, we're going
737
00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:23,255
to take full
advantage of however
738
00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:26,825
long we do have together.
739
00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:29,628
We can make a week
seem like an eternity.
740
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,003
[music playing]
741
00:35:45,377 --> 00:35:48,146
[eerie music]
742
00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,351
[honks]
743
00:35:52,451 --> 00:35:53,685
NARRATOR: You would
think that they were
744
00:35:53,785 --> 00:35:55,987
just out for a joy
ride, best friends
745
00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:57,756
without a care in the world.
746
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,260
But like everything else about
Rose Turford and Carol Stevens,
747
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looks can be deceiving.
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[shouts] To the
police, these two women
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are nothing less than the
real life Thelma and Louise.
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Today Turford and Stevens
are armed, dangerous,
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and on the run, wanted
on multiple charges
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of aggravated robbery.
753
00:36:20,746 --> 00:36:22,113
Carolyn.
754
00:36:22,214 --> 00:36:23,081
Yeah, OK.
755
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Look, we're running
a little late.
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NARRATOR: They met in 1992.
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Both were nurses at a
psychiatric hospital
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in Houston, Texas.
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00:36:31,323 --> 00:36:33,359
Eventually, Rose
invited Carolyn to move
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in with her and her family.
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00:36:35,261 --> 00:36:38,129
By January of 1995,
the two women have
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embarked on a vicious game.
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Rose Turford was, by all
accounts, a loving wife,
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devoted mother, and
dedicated professional.
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But at night, she took
on a whole new persona.
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Here were are.
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Got the wine, the key.
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00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:54,513
Great.
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The room's right here.
770
00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:56,748
Oh good.
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00:36:56,848 --> 00:36:58,083
OK.
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00:36:58,183 --> 00:37:00,686
NARRATOR: Rose began soliciting
men through the personals.
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Then, she would lure her dates
to out of the way motel rooms.
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To us.
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00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:11,363
NARRATOR: A little soft
music, a good bottle of wine,
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and the stage was set
for Carolyn's entrance.
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Sit down on the bed.
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00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:20,238
NARRATOR: The Thelma
and Louise bandits
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moved quickly and methodically.
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00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:23,675
Now take off your clothes.
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00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:27,546
[click]
782
00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:29,581
[moan]
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I'm going to the bank.
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Guess I'll see--
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Finally, Carolyn
would be left to stand
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guard while Rose ran
out to use a victim's
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bank and credit cards.
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Rose and Carolyn,
from the onset,
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wanted to be the real
life Thelma and Louise.
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00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:51,069
They wanted to experience that
thrill and the spontaneity.
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00:37:51,169 --> 00:37:53,104
And only thing is
I don't believe
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they ever considered
what they were
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00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:55,407
going to do to their families.
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00:37:58,377 --> 00:37:59,878
NARRATOR: Over a
three month period,
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Rose and Carolyn
reportedly robbed
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at least 10 men and more than
a quarter of a million dollars.
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00:38:05,016 --> 00:38:06,718
But eventually,
their luck ran out.
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In March of 1995, Rose
and Carolyn were arrested.
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Bail was set at $250,000 each.
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CLEMENT ROMEO
(VOICEOVER): It seems
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as though, prior to both Rose
and Carolyn going to jail
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00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:28,374
and being arrested, they had
this pact that, if one got out,
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00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:32,444
they both got out or
they both stayed in.
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00:38:32,544 --> 00:38:39,385
And Rose's parents were just
going to get Rose out of jail.
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00:38:39,485 --> 00:38:42,253
Look, I'm sorry I have
to keep calling you.
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00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:45,391
But Avery is putting
pressure on me.
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00:38:45,491 --> 00:38:47,459
NARRATOR: In an attempt
to cajole Rose's family
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into posting bail
for both of them,
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00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:51,997
Carolyn phoned Rose's
parents repeatedly.
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To hurt the kids.
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NARRATOR: She Claimed that
a mysterious international
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private investigator
named Avery was
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threatening Rose's children.
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00:38:59,738 --> 00:39:01,907
Well, Rose and I know
what he's capable of,
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and we should all
take him seriously.
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00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:05,310
CLEMENT ROMEO
(VOICEOVER): Probably
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the weirdest part of
this whole scenario
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was the man named Avery.
819
00:39:11,883 --> 00:39:15,587
I never bought that he was real.
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00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:23,429
It was just too far-fetched.
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NARRATOR: Rose's
family, however,
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00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:26,565
believed Avery was real.
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Even her in-laws
were moved to act.
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They put up their
house and restaurant
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as partial collateral.
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CLEMENT ROMEO
(VOICEOVER): I tried
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to convince that the parents
don't make both bonds.
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And it's not often that you
sit and try to speak to someone
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about not giving you $250,000.
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00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:48,153
But I just knew
it was a problem,
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and I knew it wasn't
going to work.
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00:39:50,255 --> 00:39:53,124
And it didn't.
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00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,126
NARRATOR: Sure
enough, on May 22nd
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1985, Rose Turford and
Carolyn Stevens took flight.
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00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:01,467
Left behind was a
letter which alleged
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that they had been kidnapped
by the mysterious Avery.
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00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,477
In reality, the Thelma and
Louise bandits were on the run,
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00:40:11,577 --> 00:40:14,145
leaving Rose's in-laws
in danger of losing
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their home and business.
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00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:21,119
We wanted to help
in any way we could.
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00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:28,193
I never once, once
entered my mind that they
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00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:31,797
would disappear, never.
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00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:33,164
CLEMENT ROMEO
(VOICEOVER): I really
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hope that Rose and Carolyn just
stop and think they're going
845
00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:40,839
to basically throw
really, really
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00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:45,076
good honest, hardworking
people out in the streets.
847
00:40:45,176 --> 00:40:47,713
And if they have to
go to jail, well,
848
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:51,316
that's just kind of the price
you pay for making a mistake.
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00:40:51,416 --> 00:40:52,651
But it's a lot
better to pay a price
850
00:40:52,751 --> 00:40:56,588
once than to pay it all
your life and make your kids
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00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:59,591
and your family suffer
for their lifetime.
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00:40:59,691 --> 00:41:02,494
[music playing]
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[eerie music]
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NARRATOR: Join me next time
for another intriguing addition
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of Unsolved Mysteries.
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