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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:03,137 [music playing] 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 NARRATOR: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:16,750 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:19,653 [music playing] 8 00:00:20,888 --> 00:00:24,158 Tonight, join me for a special two-hour edition 9 00:00:24,258 --> 00:00:27,595 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 10 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:29,597 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Some legends get better with time. 11 00:00:29,697 --> 00:00:32,400 Others become more and more real. 12 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,568 Many people believe that the untamed forests 13 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:37,371 of the Pacific Northwest harbor a mysterious creature 14 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:39,207 known as Bigfoot. 15 00:00:39,307 --> 00:00:41,109 Now, a team of researchers, bolstered 16 00:00:41,209 --> 00:00:44,478 by credible eyewitness accounts, set out to prove 17 00:00:44,578 --> 00:00:47,815 the fabled beast does exist. 18 00:00:47,915 --> 00:00:50,818 Since 1984, Bill and Dorothy Wacker 19 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,187 claim they have been targeted in a vicious campaign 20 00:00:53,287 --> 00:00:54,522 of harassment-- 21 00:00:54,622 --> 00:00:57,725 anonymous phone calls, threatening notes, burglaries, 22 00:00:57,825 --> 00:00:59,727 and even violent assaults. 23 00:00:59,827 --> 00:01:02,796 In this most bizarre case, everyone is suspect-- 24 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:05,999 even the Wackers themselves. 25 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:09,537 Christine Reinhard needs your help to find her husband. 26 00:01:09,637 --> 00:01:14,575 He disappeared from a Colorado motel on August 31st, 1993. 27 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:16,277 Two weeks later, he was apparently 28 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:20,648 spotted on an Amtrak train, disheveled and disoriented. 29 00:01:20,748 --> 00:01:23,717 Christine is convinced that he is suffering from amnesia, 30 00:01:23,817 --> 00:01:28,256 that he has no idea who he is or where he lives. 31 00:01:28,356 --> 00:01:31,425 Are there angels here on Earth watching over us? 32 00:01:31,525 --> 00:01:33,994 You'll see the compelling accounts of the two women 33 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:38,399 who came face to face with death and miraculously survived. 34 00:01:38,499 --> 00:01:40,801 Join me for this very special edition 35 00:01:40,901 --> 00:01:42,136 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 36 00:01:42,236 --> 00:01:45,473 [music playing] 37 00:02:35,456 --> 00:02:36,324 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Mt. 38 00:02:36,424 --> 00:02:37,425 Hood, Oregon. 39 00:02:37,525 --> 00:02:40,294 April 19th, 1994. 40 00:02:40,394 --> 00:02:42,463 The peaceful beauty of an alpine spring 41 00:02:42,563 --> 00:02:43,997 is shattered by a manhunt. 42 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:45,165 [helicopter whirring] 43 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:46,300 MAN: Copy contact team. 44 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,568 I understand your latest coordinates. 45 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:49,102 We're closing in on the fugitive. 46 00:02:49,203 --> 00:02:51,872 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 25 volunteers are on the ground. 47 00:02:51,972 --> 00:02:53,674 In the air is a helicopter equipped 48 00:02:53,774 --> 00:02:57,278 with a sophisticated thermal imaging system called FLIR-- 49 00:02:57,378 --> 00:03:00,348 forward looking infrared. 50 00:03:00,448 --> 00:03:01,715 There's our target. 51 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:04,117 27, [inaudible]. 52 00:03:04,218 --> 00:03:05,853 Attention ground units. 53 00:03:05,953 --> 00:03:07,187 You're closing in on the fugitive. 54 00:03:07,288 --> 00:03:09,357 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But this manhunt is different. 55 00:03:09,457 --> 00:03:11,191 It's a training exercise. 56 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:13,594 Even the fugitive is a volunteer-- 57 00:03:13,694 --> 00:03:17,130 a stand-in, as it were, for the elusive, legendary creature 58 00:03:17,231 --> 00:03:18,065 known as Bigfoot. 59 00:03:23,271 --> 00:03:28,075 Bigfoot, Yeti, Sasquatch-- no matter what this beast is 60 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:31,011 called, many believe that if he exists, 61 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:35,215 he is a missing link between ape and human. 62 00:03:35,316 --> 00:03:39,420 MAN: Attention ground units, I see fugitives at 45, 39-- 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,988 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The training exercise 64 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:42,990 was sponsored by an Oregon-based group, 65 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:45,225 the Bigfoot Research Project. 66 00:03:45,326 --> 00:03:48,061 Peter Byrne, noted adventurer and world explorer, 67 00:03:48,161 --> 00:03:48,962 heads the project. 68 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:53,534 PETER BYRNE: We don't want to capture it, 69 00:03:53,634 --> 00:03:54,902 we don't want to shoot it. 70 00:03:55,002 --> 00:03:56,069 The ultimate find, you know, as far 71 00:03:56,169 --> 00:03:57,605 as we're concerned would be to do something 72 00:03:57,705 --> 00:03:59,607 like what Jane Goodall did. 73 00:03:59,707 --> 00:04:03,844 In other words, to find one, see if we can communicate, have it 74 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:08,215 lead us to others, and then bring in the right people, 75 00:04:08,316 --> 00:04:09,417 totally responsible people. 76 00:04:09,517 --> 00:04:12,886 Bring in scientists, and show them what we found, 77 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:15,155 and, um, document the whole thing, of course. 78 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:18,058 [music playing] 79 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:19,860 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Attempts to document Bigfoot 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,762 have so far been sketchy. 81 00:04:21,862 --> 00:04:23,331 There are several crude home movies 82 00:04:23,431 --> 00:04:26,667 and videos purporting to show the creature in the wild. 83 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:29,703 And there are dozens of plaster casts and photographs showing 84 00:04:29,803 --> 00:04:32,540 large, humanoid footprints. 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,309 Yet for every person who believes Bigfoot exists, 86 00:04:35,409 --> 00:04:37,511 you'll find at least two who say that the films 87 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:40,047 and the footprints alike are merely the handiwork 88 00:04:40,147 --> 00:04:41,982 of pranksters in fur suits. 89 00:04:45,085 --> 00:04:50,624 Is Bigfoot real or an elaborate, ongoing hoax? 90 00:04:50,724 --> 00:04:54,127 Well, even hoaxes are usually based on something. 91 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:55,929 Through the years, eyewitness accounts 92 00:04:56,029 --> 00:04:59,066 have consistently described a very human-like animal. 93 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:01,869 He walks upright with an almost comical gait 94 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:04,271 and steers clear of people, unless they 95 00:05:04,372 --> 00:05:06,674 happen to invade his turf. 96 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:09,410 But even those who claim they've run across Bigfoot 97 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:12,346 say he's a harmless, if somewhat scary-looking, giant. 98 00:05:12,446 --> 00:05:15,616 [music playing] 99 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:18,819 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Todd Neiss is a sergeant 100 00:05:18,919 --> 00:05:20,654 in the Army National Guard. 101 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:23,591 Once a month, he returns to the Oregon Coastal Range, 102 00:05:23,691 --> 00:05:29,397 where he had an unusual sighting on [inaudible] in 1993. 103 00:05:29,497 --> 00:05:31,365 TODD NEISS: Across the ravine, I could distinctly 104 00:05:31,465 --> 00:05:35,536 see three large, black figures. 105 00:05:35,636 --> 00:05:36,837 I would estimate the largest one to be 106 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:38,806 between eight and nine feet. 107 00:05:38,906 --> 00:05:41,742 The two that flanked it were a full head shorter. 108 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:46,780 But I tried to think if they were bear, or if they were elk. 109 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,782 And then when I saw them shuffling back and forth, 110 00:05:48,882 --> 00:05:51,318 I could very plainly see they were upright on two legs. 111 00:05:51,419 --> 00:05:53,421 And during that entire time, they were-- 112 00:05:53,521 --> 00:05:56,390 all three of them were standing on two legs. 113 00:05:56,490 --> 00:05:58,992 I don't think I would have ever told this to anybody 114 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:01,962 had something very unusual not happened. 115 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:07,868 I was approached by another sergeant, who had walked up 116 00:06:07,968 --> 00:06:13,073 to me and said, Sir Neiss, did you see what I saw down 117 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:15,976 at that second rock quarry? 118 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:18,111 And not to be made a fool, I said, well, I don't know. 119 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:20,047 What did you see? 120 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:23,250 He followed with, well, for lack of a better 121 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:28,589 word, what I saw were three large, hair-covered Bigfeet." 122 00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:30,724 One of our theories is that they are nocturnal, 123 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,460 and that when they're seen in the daytime, 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,062 it's a result of disturbance of some kind. 125 00:06:35,162 --> 00:06:36,730 In this-- in this case, there was a National 126 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:39,232 Guard exercise with explosions. 127 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:40,834 And immediately after the explosion, 128 00:06:40,934 --> 00:06:41,969 three of these things were seen. 129 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:44,304 They were seen by him, seen by another man. 130 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:50,177 And he gave us a description and, um, a very credible story. 131 00:06:50,277 --> 00:06:53,447 [music playing] 132 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:55,449 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One month 133 00:06:55,549 --> 00:06:57,150 after Todd Neiss' sighting, two women 134 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:59,019 were driving on a remote country road 135 00:06:59,119 --> 00:07:02,723 100 miles away when they had a much closer encounter. 136 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:07,060 The driver agreed to speak with us in silhouette. 137 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,097 We had just come around a bend in the road 138 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:14,568 when I saw movement, and I slowed 139 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:17,237 down for the anticipation of something 140 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:20,040 crossing in front of me. 141 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:25,979 And that's when it stood up and moved across the road 142 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:30,217 without once looking at us, and disappeared. 143 00:07:30,317 --> 00:07:34,488 We couldn't make any sense of what we saw. 144 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:40,160 It was very close to a human, but yet it wasn't. 145 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:46,233 There was no visible signs of-- of clothing, shoes, jacket, 146 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,135 hat. 147 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:50,337 There was no neck. 148 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:55,475 The arms were very long and swinging with the movement. 149 00:07:55,576 --> 00:07:56,977 We had the opportunity of interviewing 150 00:07:57,077 --> 00:08:00,981 both of the ladies, and we found the story very credible. 151 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:03,717 We saw some signs where something had crossed the road, 152 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:07,454 and, um, about 300 yards into the forest, 153 00:08:07,555 --> 00:08:08,822 there was a dead steer. 154 00:08:08,922 --> 00:08:11,559 And a few footprints that we saw-- they were very faint-- 155 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:13,961 were going directly towards that dead steer, 156 00:08:14,061 --> 00:08:17,531 possibly with the intention of eating it. 157 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:18,699 ELMER FROMBACH: So do you guys want 158 00:08:18,799 --> 00:08:19,933 to come along with me up there? 159 00:08:20,033 --> 00:08:21,835 MAN: [inaudible] You go on ahead. 160 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:23,036 ELMER FROMBACH: OK. 161 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:24,437 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Perhaps the most amazing 162 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:27,340 Bigfoot sighting in recent years occurred when Elmer Frombach 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,143 of Seattle, Washington took his family on an outing 164 00:08:30,243 --> 00:08:31,411 near the Canadian border. 165 00:08:34,147 --> 00:08:36,817 Elmer, an electrician and part-time prospector, 166 00:08:36,917 --> 00:08:38,518 set off to stake a claim nearby. 167 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,824 ELMER FROMBACH: I had, uh, 4x4 cedar posts that I 168 00:08:43,924 --> 00:08:46,059 was using to mark the claim. 169 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:48,128 And, of course, I had all of the normal things, 170 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:50,564 like surveyor's ribbon, and a compass, 171 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:53,734 and different items which would be used to lay 172 00:08:53,834 --> 00:08:56,369 out the claim boundaries. 173 00:08:56,469 --> 00:08:58,171 As I traveled into the upper areas, 174 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:01,174 I was now at about 1,500 feet. 175 00:09:01,274 --> 00:09:03,644 And I noticed that the trails in this area 176 00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:06,614 were somewhat isolated, with trees being snapped off 177 00:09:06,714 --> 00:09:10,150 and laid over the trail in certain spots, which looked 178 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:11,551 as though they were strategically 179 00:09:11,652 --> 00:09:14,955 placed to block the trail off. 180 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:18,158 So I laid the cedar post down on the ground 181 00:09:18,258 --> 00:09:22,262 and went up the hillside, uh, to where I could walk 182 00:09:22,362 --> 00:09:23,764 on the trails easily again. 183 00:09:27,034 --> 00:09:28,268 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Elmer had just 184 00:09:28,368 --> 00:09:31,038 started to take a few more samples when he suddenly 185 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:32,740 realized he was not alone. 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,242 [hammering] 187 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:39,713 [distant pounding] 188 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:44,685 [pounding continues] 189 00:09:44,785 --> 00:09:46,854 As I walked around the hillside, 190 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:50,257 the pounding seemed to cease for a short period of time, 191 00:09:50,357 --> 00:09:52,092 and then it resumed again. 192 00:09:52,192 --> 00:09:54,027 And I thought, maybe the boys are 193 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:56,429 up here playing a trick on me. 194 00:09:56,529 --> 00:09:57,831 [pounding] 195 00:09:57,931 --> 00:09:58,799 All right, you guys. 196 00:09:58,899 --> 00:09:59,700 It isn't funny. 197 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,670 [pounding continues] 198 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:07,875 Hey! 199 00:10:07,975 --> 00:10:09,076 You on the hill! 200 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:12,579 [rustling] 201 00:10:14,147 --> 00:10:16,216 I thought at first I had triggered an avalanche 202 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:20,821 of some type, until I saw a big, black, hairy mass 203 00:10:20,921 --> 00:10:24,457 right behind all of those rocks and twigs. 204 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:27,861 And then I began to wonder, is this a bear that I'm seeing, 205 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:29,196 or is it something else? 206 00:10:33,366 --> 00:10:35,435 And at that time, I kept thinking in my mind, 207 00:10:35,535 --> 00:10:38,972 I've got to find a way to scare it. 208 00:10:39,072 --> 00:10:41,208 And I fired a shot above its head, 209 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:44,011 and it turned just slightly and then 210 00:10:44,111 --> 00:10:48,615 proceeded to walk down the trail as though I wasn't even there. 211 00:10:48,716 --> 00:10:50,450 And as it walked away from me, it 212 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:55,022 took perfect, human-like strides down the trail, 213 00:10:55,122 --> 00:10:56,289 only like a giant man. 214 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:03,396 At that point in time, I thought the thing was probably gone. 215 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:07,667 But this thing had crouched down at the end of the trail, 216 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:10,938 and it picked up a rock the size of a basketball 217 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:14,641 and was using it to bang against the other rocks. 218 00:11:14,742 --> 00:11:18,445 It again, made a slight sideways turn, just enough to see me out 219 00:11:18,545 --> 00:11:21,048 of the corner of its eye. 220 00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:23,717 I was scared, and I wanted to get out of there. 221 00:11:23,817 --> 00:11:25,652 I kept running down the hillside, 222 00:11:25,753 --> 00:11:30,057 and the thing was in hot pursuit the whole way. 223 00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:31,859 I was absolutely terrified. 224 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:38,866 And I had a hard time figuring out 225 00:11:38,966 --> 00:11:41,334 how that thing could cover so much area, 226 00:11:41,434 --> 00:11:45,438 or if there were actually more than one of them. 227 00:11:45,538 --> 00:11:49,642 I've never been more scared in my life. 228 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:51,544 The creature could have very easily have caught 229 00:11:51,644 --> 00:11:53,346 me if it would have wanted to. 230 00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:55,749 Why it didn't is still a mystery to me. 231 00:11:55,849 --> 00:11:59,319 I still can't understand, with something that would move that 232 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:02,222 fast, cover that much territory, why it had 233 00:12:02,322 --> 00:12:04,557 such a hard time locating me. 234 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:05,959 I don't think it was a chase. 235 00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:08,896 I think-- possibly, it was what we call a demonstration charge, 236 00:12:08,996 --> 00:12:11,064 if it truly was a Bigfoot that he saw. 237 00:12:11,164 --> 00:12:13,233 And it was simply saying to him, get out of here, you know. 238 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:14,134 This is my territory. 239 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:17,337 [music playing] 240 00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:19,773 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Accounts 241 00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:22,242 like Elmer Frombach's are invaluable to the Bigfoot 242 00:12:22,342 --> 00:12:23,811 Research Project. 243 00:12:23,911 --> 00:12:26,179 The project correlates all eyewitness data 244 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,782 in an attempt to predict where and when 245 00:12:28,882 --> 00:12:31,819 a Bigfoot will show up next. 246 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:34,687 Based on this data, special infrared cameras 247 00:12:34,788 --> 00:12:36,689 are set up in hopes of photographing 248 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:38,658 the elusive beast. 249 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,627 But even credible photographs might not 250 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:42,529 convince the skeptics. 251 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:44,932 Noted anthropologist Daris Swindler 252 00:12:45,032 --> 00:12:48,001 wants to see tangible proof. 253 00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:50,603 And I'm amazed that through all the years, 254 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:53,773 the various people that have been hunting Sasquatch 255 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:55,608 through the years have not really 256 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:59,146 found any what we call bone or dental evidence 257 00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:00,647 of the creature. 258 00:13:00,747 --> 00:13:03,116 That, to me, would be very satisfying. 259 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:05,085 You can talk to people who lived out here 50 years, 260 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:07,520 never found a dead bear, never found a dead cougar-- 261 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:09,222 a dead deer, maybe. 262 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:12,926 But when something dies, it's eaten, just as in East Africa. 263 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:16,196 When a eight-ton elephant dies, in 72 hours, 264 00:13:16,296 --> 00:13:17,197 it completely disappears. 265 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,765 This is nature's way. 266 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:22,669 I would still like to see some what we call teeth and bones. 267 00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:26,773 I would think it would be only logical to suspect this-- 268 00:13:26,874 --> 00:13:29,309 that we might-- by this time, would have found 269 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:32,279 some more concrete evidence of their existence. 270 00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:37,217 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Does a lost species 271 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:39,486 roam the Pacific Northwest? 272 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:43,023 If so, there are a lot of people who are very interested. 273 00:13:43,123 --> 00:13:46,259 Some, like Peter Byrne, want to find a Bigfoot alive. 274 00:13:46,359 --> 00:13:49,662 Others want a specimen dead or alive. 275 00:13:49,762 --> 00:13:51,731 The eyewitnesses we interviewed hope 276 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,666 that the scientific community takes 277 00:13:53,766 --> 00:13:57,938 notice before it's too late. 278 00:13:58,038 --> 00:14:00,440 It's not just to validate what I saw, 279 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:02,275 but I think it's important if these creatures are still 280 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:06,046 out there, that they need to be protected in some way, 281 00:14:06,146 --> 00:14:10,250 that they need to be understood and studied. 282 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:12,452 [footsteps] 283 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:15,388 There was no aggression at all in the animal. 284 00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:18,591 And I believe that it is up to us 285 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:27,901 to protect it, learn all we can about it and leave it alone. 286 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:29,036 [pounding] 287 00:14:29,136 --> 00:14:31,671 What I saw there was a living creature and not 288 00:14:31,771 --> 00:14:34,374 some figment of my imagination. 289 00:14:34,474 --> 00:14:38,878 Modern science hasn't absolutely proven by a dead object 290 00:14:38,979 --> 00:14:41,514 that this thing exists, but I tell you, 291 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:43,283 quite frankly, I've seen one. 292 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:44,517 I know it exists. 293 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:46,219 And there is no doubt in my mind. 294 00:14:49,489 --> 00:14:50,523 [music playing] 295 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:51,925 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, a determined 296 00:14:52,025 --> 00:14:55,128 wife crisscrosses the country in search of her missing husband. 297 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:58,565 Perhaps you can help. 298 00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:02,035 [music playing] 299 00:15:05,105 --> 00:15:07,007 Imagine that you are a woman whose husband has 300 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,442 gone away on a business trip. 301 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:10,843 You speak to him the night before he 302 00:15:10,944 --> 00:15:12,980 is due to come back home, and you never 303 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,348 see or hear from him again. 304 00:15:15,448 --> 00:15:17,050 What are your choices? 305 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:19,386 Do you sit at home waiting for police in distant cities 306 00:15:19,486 --> 00:15:22,655 to call you back, or do you try to do something yourself? 307 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,295 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Christine Reinhard 308 00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:31,531 of Clintonville, Wisconsin did something. 309 00:15:31,631 --> 00:15:33,433 Today, Christine's search for her husband 310 00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:35,502 has become an all-consuming quest. 311 00:15:38,405 --> 00:15:40,207 CHRISTINE REINHARD: Hello. 312 00:15:40,307 --> 00:15:41,108 Hi. 313 00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:42,175 Hi. 314 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:44,677 Uh, my name's Christine, and I'm out here 315 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:46,279 searching for my husband, who's been 316 00:15:46,379 --> 00:15:48,415 missing for quite some time. 317 00:15:48,515 --> 00:15:50,517 His name is Craig Williamson. 318 00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:53,253 I've reason to believe that he's suffering from amnesia 319 00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:55,822 and may have been on this interstate corridor 320 00:15:55,922 --> 00:15:58,458 and perhaps caught a ride with a trucker. 321 00:15:58,558 --> 00:16:00,360 And I'd like to put this up in your window, 322 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:01,694 if that's possible, and-- - That'd be fine. 323 00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:02,595 --someone might see it. 324 00:16:02,695 --> 00:16:03,530 Sure. 325 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:04,697 Oh, I-- I really appreciate that. 326 00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:05,598 Thank you very much. 327 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:06,499 All right. 328 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:09,736 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Christine's quest 329 00:16:09,836 --> 00:16:14,641 began on September 14th, 1993 in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 330 00:16:14,741 --> 00:16:17,544 at the motel where Craig Williamson was last seen. 331 00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,579 HOTEL STAFF: OK, Ms. Reinhard. 332 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:22,949 This is where your husband stayed, in room 112. 333 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:25,218 [keys jangling] 334 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:32,159 This is the washroom here. 335 00:16:32,259 --> 00:16:36,363 All this stuff was in here, and he had a book here on the sink. 336 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:42,102 OK, this is the room he stayed in. 337 00:16:42,202 --> 00:16:44,804 Over there on the chair was his luggage. 338 00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:47,006 It was unpacked and opened. 339 00:16:47,107 --> 00:16:48,075 The bed was made. 340 00:16:48,175 --> 00:16:52,379 It looked like it was not slept in. 341 00:16:52,479 --> 00:16:54,047 Had there been any, um-- 342 00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:56,216 like, signs of struggle in the room? 343 00:16:56,316 --> 00:16:57,550 HOTEL STAFF: No sign of struggle at all. 344 00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:01,854 It looked like, uh, someone just left and walked out. 345 00:17:05,425 --> 00:17:08,961 [music playing] 346 00:17:09,062 --> 00:17:11,998 MINISTER: It is now my pleasure as an ordained minister, 347 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:14,767 and by the power invested in me by the state of Nevada. 348 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,736 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Craig Williamson was nearly 46 349 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:20,507 and Christine Reinhard, 41, when they married at Lake Tahoe. 350 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:22,809 It was a second marriage for both. 351 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:24,511 MINISTER: --and wife. 352 00:17:24,611 --> 00:17:25,812 Craig, you may kiss your wife. 353 00:17:25,912 --> 00:17:27,314 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Craig and Christine 354 00:17:27,414 --> 00:17:29,048 had known each other for only a month, 355 00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:31,551 but it was definitely a love match. 356 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:36,889 Christine still speaks of their marriage in the present tense. 357 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:39,159 CHRISTINE REINHARD: Being married to Craig is-- 358 00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:41,761 it may be a cliche to say it's like a honeymoon, 359 00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:45,532 but it really is, because he's the most sincere, caring, 360 00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:46,433 loving person. 361 00:17:49,836 --> 00:17:53,005 I think the thing about Craig that is most endearing 362 00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:57,644 is his caring and nurturing attitude toward me. 363 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:01,514 He's just wonderfully supportive and very loving. 364 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:07,687 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Craig and Christine 365 00:18:07,787 --> 00:18:10,523 bought a farm in Wisconsin, Christine's home state, 366 00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:13,526 and undertook an immediate renovation. 367 00:18:13,626 --> 00:18:16,463 They added onto the barn, installed large tanks, 368 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:18,431 and began to raise an exotic and tasty 369 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:20,333 African fish called tilapia. 370 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,302 CHRISTINE REINHARD: [inaudible] oxygen today, dear? 371 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:23,203 CRAIG WILLIAMSON: Yep. 372 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:24,604 CHRISTINE REINHARD: Any reason? 373 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:26,406 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Craig specially rigged an old school 374 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:28,808 bus to transport the fish. 375 00:18:28,908 --> 00:18:32,779 On August 28th, 1993, Craig Williamson loaded up and set 376 00:18:32,879 --> 00:18:36,183 off for Colorado, even though he was still experiencing 377 00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:38,918 headaches and blurred vision due to a concussion 378 00:18:39,018 --> 00:18:42,189 he had suffered four weeks earlier. 379 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:45,158 If I tried to rub his head, he said, honey, 380 00:18:45,258 --> 00:18:46,859 don't do that, it hurts. 381 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:48,595 And so I know he was still suffering from it, 382 00:18:48,695 --> 00:18:50,397 because he would still-- 383 00:18:50,497 --> 00:18:52,031 I'd say, do you have a headache? 384 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,767 And he'd say yes, you know, but he wouldn't admit it. 385 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:59,105 But I'd catch him taking aspirin all the time. 386 00:18:59,206 --> 00:19:00,640 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In Colorado Springs, 387 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:03,876 Craig rented a car to use for business appointments. 388 00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:08,315 At 9PM on August 30th, the night before he was to return home, 389 00:19:08,415 --> 00:19:10,450 he and Christine spoke for the last time. 390 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:16,022 Craig was 1,000 miles away from the farm in Wisconsin 391 00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:18,725 when he disappeared in Colorado Springs. 392 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,828 The next day, his credit cards were discovered at a market 393 00:19:21,928 --> 00:19:26,866 in El Paso, Texas, 675 miles south. 394 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:29,001 Two weeks later, in Juarez, Mexico, 395 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:31,170 just across the border from El Paso, 396 00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:33,806 Craig's rental car was found abandoned. 397 00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:36,476 Once again, there were no signs of foul play. 398 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:47,320 Detective Robert Johnson headed the investigation in Colorado. 399 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,188 This is the area where we found the bus still parked-- 400 00:19:49,289 --> 00:19:50,290 OK. 401 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:51,258 --when we came out the day of the search. 402 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:52,525 Uh-huh. 403 00:19:52,625 --> 00:19:53,626 And what I wanted to show you is some of the things 404 00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:54,527 that we found. 405 00:19:57,029 --> 00:20:00,132 When we got here, the bus that Craig had driven down here 406 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:03,236 was still parked kind of along this line here, 407 00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:05,104 about three or four feet from the dumpster. 408 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,406 CHRISTINE REINHARD: OK. 409 00:20:06,506 --> 00:20:10,443 I truly believe that Craig walked up to his rental car 410 00:20:10,543 --> 00:20:14,714 and that someone came up behind him and hit him on the head. 411 00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:19,185 And this is completely in keeping in character 412 00:20:19,286 --> 00:20:23,089 with Craig, is that he'd get up and wouldn't go in 413 00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:25,258 and say, I'm hurt, help me. 414 00:20:25,358 --> 00:20:28,227 He'd think, I have to get on with things. 415 00:20:28,328 --> 00:20:30,597 I, you know, I have to be doing something. 416 00:20:30,697 --> 00:20:32,332 I'm supposed to go somewhere. 417 00:20:32,432 --> 00:20:33,800 I have to get back. 418 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:38,771 And he would wander toward the bright lights of the parking 419 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,440 lot and then the interchange. 420 00:20:40,540 --> 00:20:43,643 And he wandered off from there. 421 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:44,744 TV ANNOUNCER: Over the past week, 422 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:45,978 Williamson's wife Christine-- 423 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:47,179 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Television 424 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,581 stations in Wisconsin and Colorado 425 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:50,817 covered Christine's story. 426 00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:55,922 Within days, a retired nurse from Montana came forward. 427 00:20:56,022 --> 00:20:59,692 When I saw him on TV, you know, I recognized him. 428 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:03,496 And I said, that man was on the train that I was on. 429 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,432 And my son said, are you sure about that? 430 00:21:05,532 --> 00:21:07,066 I said, yeah, I recognize him. 431 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:08,267 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Judy Inman 432 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:10,002 believes she saw Craig Williamson 433 00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:14,607 looking dazed and disheveled two weeks after he disappeared. 434 00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:16,809 Judy was on a train traveling from Montana 435 00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:18,745 through Washington state, where Craig 436 00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,146 and Christine had first met. 437 00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:24,651 JUDY INMAN: When he first got on the train, 438 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,753 these two drunks-- they just kept harassing him. 439 00:21:26,853 --> 00:21:28,287 [drunken rambling] 440 00:21:28,388 --> 00:21:30,690 JUDY INMAN: I was just wishing they'd all three shut up, 441 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:32,392 you know, so we could get some sleep. 442 00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:35,762 [loud talking] 443 00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:44,471 JUDY INMAN: But when he walked up the aisle, 444 00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:46,873 he didn't say anything. 445 00:21:46,973 --> 00:21:48,775 But there was something that he wanted. 446 00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:53,613 I've got to get back to the fish. 447 00:21:57,450 --> 00:22:02,288 He kept talking about this fish that he had to go pick up. 448 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:05,892 And, uh, he was talking about this big building 449 00:22:05,992 --> 00:22:08,495 that had these big, huge tanks in it, 450 00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:10,129 where they kept the fish. 451 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:11,831 How are you going to catch this fish? 452 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:13,232 JUDY INMAN: These two drunk guys asked 453 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:15,702 him, well, where do you have to go to catch that fish, 454 00:22:15,802 --> 00:22:17,103 you know. 455 00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:20,072 He said, well, you wouldn't find a fish like that around here. 456 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,974 He said, in fact, you wouldn't find a fish 457 00:22:22,074 --> 00:22:23,943 like that in the United States. 458 00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:25,578 Hey! 459 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:26,479 My jacket. 460 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,415 CRAIG WILLIAMSON: Oh. 461 00:22:28,515 --> 00:22:29,315 Oh. 462 00:22:32,251 --> 00:22:34,353 I've got to get back to the fish. 463 00:22:34,454 --> 00:22:37,156 JUDY INMAN: That man definitely had something wrong with him. 464 00:22:40,527 --> 00:22:43,362 He was absolutely not drunk. 465 00:22:43,463 --> 00:22:45,064 And I knew he was not mentally retarded. 466 00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:50,102 There's a difference between someone 467 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:53,205 that's mentally retarded and someone that's drunk 468 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:55,942 and someone that has a head injury. 469 00:22:56,042 --> 00:23:00,680 And I knew that he definitely had some type of a head injury, 470 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:04,316 because I've taken care of patients like that. 471 00:23:04,417 --> 00:23:06,586 I knew that that was Craig. 472 00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:07,587 I knew it! 473 00:23:07,687 --> 00:23:09,756 And the fact that it was on Amtrak, 474 00:23:09,856 --> 00:23:12,825 and it was heading toward the Pacific Northwest, I mean, 475 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:14,461 I knew that that was Craig. 476 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:18,665 There was no way anyone could make up the type of things 477 00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:23,402 that Judy Inman said Craig was talking about. 478 00:23:23,503 --> 00:23:26,973 I packed up everything that I would need, packed up 479 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,910 a suitcase for Craig in the outside chance I would find 480 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:35,347 him, and went to look for him. 481 00:23:35,448 --> 00:23:37,817 NARRATOR: Christine set off on a six-week odyssey, 482 00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:41,120 paralleling Judy Inman's train route from Whitefish, Montana 483 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,389 to Portland, Oregon. 484 00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:45,825 She photographed every train station along the way. 485 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:53,065 On December 26, 1993, Christine met Judy Inman in person 486 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:56,669 for the first time, and showed her the photographs. 487 00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:58,037 This is another one of the train yard. 488 00:23:58,137 --> 00:23:59,639 There's really nothing much around there. 489 00:23:59,739 --> 00:24:01,574 It's pretty empty. 490 00:24:01,674 --> 00:24:02,475 Then there's this one. 491 00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:03,375 That's it there. 492 00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:04,443 You think this is the one? 493 00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:05,878 That's the one he got off. 494 00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:07,379 Because it was a small building? 495 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,881 Yeah, it was small. 496 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:10,382 And it was this color. 497 00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:13,686 This is the one where he got off. 498 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,888 NARRATOR: Judy had identified Wishram, Washington, 499 00:24:15,988 --> 00:24:17,990 near the Oregon border. 500 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:19,492 Christine believes Craig might have 501 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:22,461 mistaken Wishram for Washougal, a town where 502 00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:25,064 he had lived in the 1980s. 503 00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:27,834 Craig's son plastered the area with his poster, 504 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:29,235 but no new clues surfaced. 505 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,409 It was absolutely terrible to drive 506 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:42,615 back here after looking for Craig for the six weeks 507 00:24:42,715 --> 00:24:43,950 that I did. 508 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:48,120 This place was so cold and empty. 509 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:54,326 And everywhere I look, things remind me of Craig 510 00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,227 all the time. 511 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:03,736 NARRATOR: Today, Christine Reinhardt has no choice 512 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:07,139 but to sit at home and wait. 513 00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:08,808 The farm is closed. 514 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:10,643 The fish tanks are empty. 515 00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:15,447 But Christine will never abandoned her quest. 516 00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:16,816 I can't give up. 517 00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:18,718 I will never give up. 518 00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:26,258 I will just constantly look for him until I die, or he's found. 519 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:27,293 Those are the only two options. 520 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:31,764 I know he's alive. 521 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,100 And I know someday I'll find him. 522 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,968 The trouble is I don't know when. 523 00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:38,070 And I just have to keep hanging on. 524 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:40,139 The hardest part is hanging on. 525 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:46,278 NARRATOR: Craig Williamson is 49 years old, 5 feet 10 inches 526 00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,981 tall, and weighs 190 pounds. 527 00:25:49,081 --> 00:25:51,918 He has gray hair and blue eyes. 528 00:25:52,018 --> 00:25:54,687 This is television footage shot in Wisconsin 529 00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:57,957 in February of 1993. 530 00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,459 Some of these will be filleted out in our processing plant. 531 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,830 Some will be delivered to the east coast as live, whole fish 532 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:06,265 to the oriental market. 533 00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,234 [music playing] 534 00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,154 NARRATOR: When we return, a fugitive 535 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:30,623 is captured thanks to your calls, 536 00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:34,093 and the bizarre case of a couple targeted for terror 537 00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:35,728 by an unknown assailant. 538 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,664 [music playing] 539 00:26:45,571 --> 00:26:47,707 NARRATOR: This is 36-year-old David Vieira. 540 00:26:47,807 --> 00:26:51,010 He is charged with the murder of his wife. 541 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:54,180 On April 16th, 1994, Viera was arrested 542 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,416 in Montreal, Canada, the 108th fugitive 543 00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:59,786 captured thanks to your calls. 544 00:26:59,886 --> 00:27:01,688 His long, troubling odyssey began 545 00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:04,857 some 20 years ago on a small island in the Atlantic Ocean. 546 00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:10,496 David Viera grew up on St. Michael, 547 00:27:10,596 --> 00:27:12,732 one of a group of island's west of Portugal 548 00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:13,666 known as the Azores. 549 00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:19,138 It was there in 1974 that Viera married 550 00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,540 his 17-year-old cousin Alice, who lived 551 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,878 in New Bedford, Massachusetts. 552 00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,781 David and Alive eventually settled in New Bedford. 553 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:30,449 Within a year, Alice was pregnant. 554 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:34,653 Their marriage went off pretty good, 555 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:37,423 like maybe I'd say about the first couple of months. 556 00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:40,292 And then already, he was already starting with her. 557 00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:42,461 You know, she couldn't wear make up. 558 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,863 She couldn't do anything. 559 00:27:43,963 --> 00:27:47,266 You know, he was very jealous, very possessive of my sister. 560 00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:50,937 NARRATOR: By 1981, Alice and David had three children. 561 00:27:51,037 --> 00:27:54,406 As the years went by, David reportedly became abusive, 562 00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:55,407 to the point of violence. 563 00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:01,781 David used to always say, there's no other woman 564 00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:04,550 in my life like you are. 565 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,018 And he always had threatened her that if she 566 00:28:06,118 --> 00:28:07,754 ever decided to leave him for anybody, 567 00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:08,921 that he would kill her. 568 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:13,993 But we never took it seriously, you know? 569 00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:15,728 NARRATOR: Alice and David finally separated 570 00:28:15,828 --> 00:28:17,797 in the summer of 1988. 571 00:28:17,897 --> 00:28:19,631 Alice enrolled in nursing school, 572 00:28:19,732 --> 00:28:21,267 and began to see another man. 573 00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,736 But David Viera would not let her go. 574 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,308 He allegedly began to stalk Alice at work 575 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:31,377 and at home, night and day. 576 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,984 On July 25th, 1988, Alice was at home with her boyfriend, 577 00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:39,618 when David apparently snapped. 578 00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,293 By the time police arrived at the scene, 579 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:50,729 Alice was dead bludgeoned and stabbed 24 four 580 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:54,166 times with a butcher knife. 581 00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:55,902 David Viera had vanished. 582 00:28:56,002 --> 00:28:57,636 And for nearly six years, he could not 583 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:03,042 be found, until the night of our broadcast. 584 00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,244 Our particular segment on that show 585 00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:08,747 aired our time here in New Bedford, Massachusetts 586 00:29:08,848 --> 00:29:12,184 at approximately 8:50 PM. 587 00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:16,455 By 9:03 PM, I was receiving telephone calls from Canada 588 00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:19,591 right here into my office with very good leads 589 00:29:19,691 --> 00:29:21,660 as to his whereabouts. 590 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,662 The first phone call that I received saying that they knew 591 00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:27,366 where he was, I just jumped up with joy, and told my husband, 592 00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:28,567 I think we got him, you know? 593 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:29,701 And I couldn't believe it. 594 00:29:29,802 --> 00:29:31,003 It took less than 48 hours. 595 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:36,308 NARRATOR: Viera had lived in Montreal 596 00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:38,177 for at least two years, and was well known 597 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,279 in the Portuguese community. 598 00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:42,281 He belonged to a neighborhood soccer team 599 00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,917 and was employed at a local fish market. 600 00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:50,422 Viera's coworkers were stunned to learn about his secret past. 601 00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:51,623 I don't believe the guy do it. 602 00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:55,928 I don't believe it, because the guy is so nice. 603 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,629 We do, because we see the picture. 604 00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:01,100 If you don't see the picture is exactly the man, if we 605 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,035 don't see, we never trust. 606 00:30:05,872 --> 00:30:08,074 I've seen him apprehended, and with handcuffs. 607 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:11,110 And to me, that was a sign of saying, thank God, I can rest. 608 00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:15,314 And my sister can also be at peace now that he's caught. 609 00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:17,783 [music playing] 610 00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:41,908 NARRATOR: Dorothy and Bill Wacker 611 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,077 lived in a small town in Ohio for most of their 48 years 612 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,012 together. 613 00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:48,447 What time is Kathy coming over? 614 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,918 About 6:00 o'clock. 615 00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:54,320 NARRATOR: The Wackers are quiet, unassuming people, who 616 00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,157 tend to mind their own business, hardly the time to draw 617 00:30:58,257 --> 00:31:02,128 the wrath of an unseen enemy. 618 00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:03,963 Oh my, not again. 619 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:07,934 All right, that's it. 620 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:08,834 I've had enough. 621 00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:11,904 I'm calling the Sheriff. 622 00:31:12,004 --> 00:31:16,475 NARRATOR: On January 16th, 1985, the Wackers home was ransacked. 623 00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:19,378 It was a third incident in a campaign of terror 624 00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:23,549 that began in 1984, and continues unabated to this day. 625 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,957 After nearly 10 years, Dorothy and Bill Wacker still wonder, 626 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,458 who and why? 627 00:31:35,261 --> 00:31:37,329 Well, as far as all this harassment 628 00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:39,598 is going on, which to me it looks like it's 629 00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:42,701 trying to force us to move. 630 00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:43,802 Why should I move? 631 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:44,937 Why should we move? 632 00:31:45,037 --> 00:31:48,774 Why should we be forced out by a kook? 633 00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:50,276 To me, that's what it is, is a kook. 634 00:31:53,712 --> 00:31:55,247 I'll not do it. 635 00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:58,050 I'll stay there, and protect our home. 636 00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,485 [knocking] 637 00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:04,590 NARRATOR: July of 1985, after six months 638 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,293 of peace, another incident. 639 00:32:07,393 --> 00:32:12,398 Dorothy was home by herself recovering from heart surgery. 640 00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:13,465 Yeah? 641 00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:15,201 I'm really sorry to bother you, ma'am. 642 00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:16,402 My car broke down. 643 00:32:16,502 --> 00:32:17,803 And I was just wondering if I could use your phone. 644 00:32:17,903 --> 00:32:18,770 Where's your car? 645 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:20,239 Oh, it's just down the street here. 646 00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:23,109 I would really appreciate. 647 00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:24,743 OK, I guess it'll be all right. 648 00:32:24,843 --> 00:32:25,711 Come on in. 649 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:26,845 Anybody come to the door, we didn't 650 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:27,746 believe the worst of them. 651 00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:29,815 So we did what we had to do. 652 00:32:29,915 --> 00:32:32,051 If they wanted help or anything, we always helped them. 653 00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:32,951 Right here. 654 00:32:33,052 --> 00:32:33,952 Nice place out here. 655 00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,155 You need me I'll be in the kitchen. 656 00:32:36,255 --> 00:32:37,056 Thanks a lot. 657 00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:39,491 I really appreciate it. 658 00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:41,527 He was very polite. 659 00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:44,663 So I had no qualms about leaving him in. 660 00:32:44,763 --> 00:32:47,866 I need to get a tow truck. 661 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:51,503 Right, right on South Ferry. 662 00:32:51,603 --> 00:32:52,804 He was talking on the phone. 663 00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:55,074 But like I say, I didn't pay no attention to him. 664 00:32:55,174 --> 00:32:56,808 I don't listen to people's conversations 665 00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:58,010 when they use the phone. 666 00:33:02,448 --> 00:33:03,882 And he said, thanks very much. 667 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,418 And that's the reason I thought he'd left. 668 00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:07,419 You're welcome. 669 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:29,508 The next thing I remember, I woke up on the floor tied up. 670 00:33:29,608 --> 00:33:30,442 And hit me in the head. 671 00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:31,910 And he hit me alongside the jaw. 672 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:39,085 And, finally, I got over towards the kitchen window. 673 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:40,386 And it was open. 674 00:33:40,486 --> 00:33:42,488 And I got the neighbors to hear me over there. 675 00:33:42,588 --> 00:33:43,389 And they come over. 676 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,295 NARRATOR: Bill returned home to find 677 00:33:49,395 --> 00:33:52,498 his house swarming with police. 678 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:55,234 Fortunately, Dorothy was not seriously injured. 679 00:33:55,334 --> 00:33:57,469 She's all right. 680 00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:00,072 NARRATOR: Bill did discover some personal possessions were 681 00:34:00,172 --> 00:34:01,407 missing-- 682 00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:05,877 a .22 caliber revolver, an antique watch, a movie camera, 683 00:34:05,977 --> 00:34:08,547 and a radio scanner. 684 00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:10,349 In the dining room, the assailant 685 00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:12,951 had left a cryptic message scrawled in crayon. 686 00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:20,025 The words were cheaper, but will do. 687 00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:21,427 There's no connotation. 688 00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:28,134 There's no rationale behind that message that we can understand. 689 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:30,636 NARRATOR: This sketch drawn from Dorothy's description 690 00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,372 was widely distributed after the attack. 691 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,241 The suspect never surfaced. 692 00:34:35,341 --> 00:34:37,976 But inexplicably, most of the Wacker's missing possessions 693 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:38,877 did. 694 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:48,254 Bill says that about four months after Dorothy was assaulted, 695 00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:50,356 the revolver turned up on the front porch. 696 00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:58,730 One by one, the other items also reappeared. 697 00:34:58,830 --> 00:34:59,965 I couldn't figure it out. 698 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,501 I still can't figure it out, why it was brought back. 699 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:06,004 If somebody was steal something, normally 700 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:07,439 if they don't have any use for it, 701 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,509 they're going to sell it to somebody else. 702 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:13,712 And it just looked like this stuff was laid around 703 00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:16,215 till it was brought back. 704 00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:19,418 This is extremely unusual, if not very rare. 705 00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:21,587 In all my years in law enforcement, 706 00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:22,888 I have never known of a gun being 707 00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:24,556 returned after it was stolen. 708 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,962 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, the unseen tormentor had launched 709 00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:32,964 a new pattern of harassment. 710 00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:34,566 Hello? 711 00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:36,468 Sometimes, he wouldn't say anything. 712 00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,937 He'd just breathe real deep. 713 00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:40,606 And then the next time, why, he says, 714 00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:43,242 I'll knock you in the head, and lay you out. 715 00:35:43,342 --> 00:35:46,978 And I'll do this to you, and do that to you. 716 00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:48,814 I was angry. And I was scared. 717 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:55,086 They've changed her telephone number several times. 718 00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,389 And whoever this is that's harassing 719 00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,124 them has come up with the number. 720 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:00,726 How they found it, I have no idea. 721 00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:06,465 NARRATOR: According to Bill and Dorothy, 722 00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,300 the phone calls never let up. 723 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,638 And the mysterious assailant soon escalated his campaign. 724 00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:13,805 I would be sitting there watching 725 00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:15,341 TV, or reading, or whatever. 726 00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:18,277 And always after dark. 727 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:20,479 And on the driveway side of the house 728 00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:22,147 is where it first started. 729 00:36:22,248 --> 00:36:24,916 They would bang five, six times real hard. 730 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,785 [banging] 731 00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:27,786 What's that? 732 00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:28,854 I don't know. 733 00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:30,789 But I'm darn sure going to find out. 734 00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:31,690 Bill. 735 00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:32,758 I've had it! 736 00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:36,061 I don't want you going out there, Bill. 737 00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:42,067 I'd rush outside, never see a thing, never hear a thing, 738 00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:47,072 never hear a car, never hear a noise whatsoever. 739 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,581 We got to the point that we figured that we needed 740 00:36:55,681 --> 00:36:58,049 some kind of security light outside 741 00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:01,186 in the front, which we put up. 742 00:37:05,424 --> 00:37:11,029 It wasn't too long after that we had a note on the front porch. 743 00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:12,864 It says, your lights are a laugh. 744 00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:19,070 NARRATOR: Periodically, other notes have shown 745 00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:22,107 up on the Wacker's front porch. 746 00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:27,779 Some are crudely threatening, others simply mocking. 747 00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:29,648 It was a disturbing onslaught. 748 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:32,250 But at least the Wackers had tangible evidence 749 00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:34,152 to present to the authorities. 750 00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,558 It would appear that the person that wrote these notes 751 00:37:39,658 --> 00:37:41,560 may have been using the opposite here from what they're 752 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,795 normally used to writing with. 753 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:47,366 Whoever printed them went to some pains 754 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:49,335 to try to conceal their normal handwriting 755 00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:53,238 or printing techniques. 756 00:37:53,339 --> 00:37:55,641 To date, we have found no latent fingerprints 757 00:37:55,741 --> 00:37:57,409 or any other form of material on the evidence 758 00:37:57,509 --> 00:37:58,510 that's been submitted. 759 00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:05,250 NARRATOR: With the investigation stalled, 760 00:38:05,351 --> 00:38:07,453 Dorothy and Bill were seemingly at the mercy 761 00:38:07,553 --> 00:38:10,322 of their unknown enemy. 762 00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:26,104 He struck again on October 27, 1993. 763 00:38:26,204 --> 00:38:28,206 This time, Dorothy was raced to the hospital 764 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,141 with skull lacerations. 765 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,678 Desperate for a witness, police once again 766 00:38:32,778 --> 00:38:34,245 canvassed the neighborhood. 767 00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:36,348 Have you had anybody around your residence crawling 768 00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:37,916 around your resident, looking in the windows 769 00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:39,250 the last few months, sir? 770 00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:41,687 No. 771 00:38:41,787 --> 00:38:43,321 Do you have any idea who may be crawling 772 00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:44,556 around the Wacker residence? 773 00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,124 We've interviewed the neighbor's 774 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:47,826 on numerous occasions. 775 00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,027 And none of the neighbors have yet 776 00:38:49,127 --> 00:38:51,830 been able to provide us with any information 777 00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:55,200 which would lead us to believe that there was a person there. 778 00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:00,238 Nobody has ever seen a body, which is very frustrating to us 779 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:01,139 in our efforts. 780 00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:07,779 NARRATOR: With no suspects and no clues, 781 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,948 the lead detective presented Dorothy 782 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:13,118 with an unthinkable scenario. 783 00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:15,587 He says I'm going to ask you a question. 784 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,089 But he said, I don't want you to take it the wrong way. 785 00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,759 He says, do you think your husband could have done this? 786 00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:23,194 And I said, no way. 787 00:39:23,294 --> 00:39:26,898 I said, he wouldn't do something like that. 788 00:39:26,998 --> 00:39:31,036 He says, we've got to explore all possibilities. 789 00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:37,275 She says, no, which, why should I do something like after being 790 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:41,146 married 48 years, you know? 791 00:39:41,246 --> 00:39:42,448 In any type of criminal activity, 792 00:39:42,548 --> 00:39:44,382 usually you can identify pretty much 793 00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:45,451 upfront what the motive is. 794 00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:46,351 It's pretty simple. 795 00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:53,425 The problem with this is you cannot identify the motive. 796 00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:56,261 You can't identify the reasons behind the activity 797 00:39:56,361 --> 00:39:57,996 that's going on out there. 798 00:39:58,096 --> 00:39:59,164 There seems to be-- 799 00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:01,633 there seems to be a pattern of activity, yes. 800 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:04,536 But what is the underlying reason that this activity 801 00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:05,471 is taking place? 802 00:40:05,571 --> 00:40:07,238 The other thing is, it's sporadic. 803 00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:08,740 It's not constant. 804 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,777 You'll have months go by with absolutely nothing happen. 805 00:40:11,877 --> 00:40:13,445 And then you'll have a flurry of activity 806 00:40:13,545 --> 00:40:15,313 for maybe a period of a month. 807 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:18,750 And then it becomes dormant again. 808 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,351 This has thrown us into a quandary, 809 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,589 because we can't figure out exactly what's going on. 810 00:40:23,689 --> 00:40:25,123 We know what's going on. 811 00:40:25,223 --> 00:40:26,357 They're filing the complaints. 812 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,527 And they're filing reports. We're going out there. 813 00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:29,761 But, yet, we can find nothing. 814 00:40:33,298 --> 00:40:36,568 NARRATOR: In November of 1993, Bill and Dorothy took 815 00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:39,104 matters into their own hands. 816 00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,439 With the help of family members, the Wackers 817 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:44,943 staked out their own house. 818 00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:49,014 Bill was holed up in a trailer parked in the driveway. 819 00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:52,183 Across the street, his sons in law Dan and Clay 820 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,386 watched from a van. 821 00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:58,657 Clay's wife Kathy stayed with Dorothy in the house. 822 00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:01,527 The family was linked by walkie-talkie. 823 00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:02,994 It's all quiet in here. 824 00:41:05,396 --> 00:41:06,397 For 825 00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:09,034 NARRATOR: Almost four hours, they waited. 826 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:14,305 Around 10:30 PM, they decided to call it a night. 827 00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:19,277 And all of a sudden, we heard bump, bump, bump, bump. 828 00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:21,513 I said, there's something on the front porch. 829 00:41:21,613 --> 00:41:24,583 We can't see anything. 830 00:41:24,683 --> 00:41:27,085 NARRATOR: Inevitably, perhaps even predicatively, 831 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:31,056 the intruder had found a blind spot in the Wacker's stakeout. 832 00:41:31,156 --> 00:41:33,859 I never saw it come from anywhere. 833 00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:36,194 NARRATOR: The scrawl was all too familiar. 834 00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:38,897 The note read simply, get the message. 835 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,668 Oh my-- here. 836 00:41:42,768 --> 00:41:43,535 Come on. 837 00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:47,405 Let's go in the house. 838 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,876 NARRATOR: Violent assaults, threatening notes, 839 00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:55,413 unnerving calls, nearly 10 years of harassment. 840 00:41:55,513 --> 00:42:01,186 Who is behind the play on the Wacker household? 841 00:42:01,286 --> 00:42:03,689 Could it be an embittered neighbor, a family 842 00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:06,524 member, a total stranger? 843 00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:09,160 The Wackers remain as mystified today as when 844 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:10,662 their troubles first began. 845 00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:18,837 The sooner he's caught, the better off a lot of people 846 00:42:18,937 --> 00:42:25,744 are going to be, because if he's not harassing us or threatening 847 00:42:25,844 --> 00:42:30,181 us, he'll probably be doing it to somebody else 848 00:42:30,281 --> 00:42:31,750 to get his kicks. 849 00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:33,051 I think that's what it boils down to. 850 00:42:33,151 --> 00:42:37,155 He gets a heck of a big kick out of it. 851 00:42:37,255 --> 00:42:40,458 NARRATOR: Next, authorities need your help 852 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:42,761 to find a deadly arsonist. 853 00:42:42,861 --> 00:42:44,696 [music playing] 854 00:42:55,506 --> 00:42:57,943 NARRATOR: September 29, 1988-- 855 00:42:58,043 --> 00:43:00,779 arson investigators sift through the ashes of a burned 856 00:43:00,879 --> 00:43:04,015 out home in South Oakcliff, a section of Dallas, Texas. 857 00:43:08,987 --> 00:43:11,757 Five children had died as a result of the fire. 858 00:43:11,857 --> 00:43:13,558 And the authorities wanted to know why. 859 00:43:17,395 --> 00:43:20,131 The house belonged to a woman named Molly Jordan. 860 00:43:20,231 --> 00:43:22,000 The victims were her great granddaughter, 861 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,204 2-year-old Jasmine, and four of her grandchildren, Jamal 6, 862 00:43:26,304 --> 00:43:29,540 Erica 9, Bernard 16, and 18-year-old 863 00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:31,309 Dimitra, Jasmine's mother. 864 00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:38,784 September 28 seemed, at first, like any other day 865 00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:40,652 in the Jordan household. 866 00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:44,723 By 3:30 that afternoon, the kids were all home from school. 867 00:43:44,823 --> 00:43:47,859 Their grandmother, Molly Jordan, was about to leave. 868 00:43:47,959 --> 00:43:50,662 Molly worked back to back eight hour shifts as a nurse 869 00:43:50,762 --> 00:43:54,299 to support the six children. 870 00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:57,268 Molly's jobs would keep her away for some 16 hours 871 00:43:57,368 --> 00:43:59,204 until 7:00 the next morning. 872 00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:01,272 But she carried a beeper so the kids could 873 00:44:01,372 --> 00:44:02,974 reach her directly at any time. 874 00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:11,382 Around 3:00 AM, Ketrick Jordan, then 10 years old, 875 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:12,918 awakened to the sound of his brother 876 00:44:13,018 --> 00:44:15,120 Bernard talking to someone. 877 00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:17,555 Bernard had apparently become deeply involved 878 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:18,757 with a local drug dealer. 879 00:44:22,928 --> 00:44:25,263 I was walking to the refrigerator. 880 00:44:25,363 --> 00:44:26,464 And I saw him. 881 00:44:26,564 --> 00:44:30,035 I saw the drug dealer and Bernard talking about, 882 00:44:30,135 --> 00:44:31,369 where's my money? 883 00:44:31,469 --> 00:44:34,372 And Bernard said, I don't know what you're talking about. 884 00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:35,273 Bernard. 885 00:44:38,143 --> 00:44:39,444 Ketrick, get back to bed. 886 00:44:39,544 --> 00:44:40,345 But-- 887 00:44:40,445 --> 00:44:41,446 And don't come back out. 888 00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:48,586 NARRATOR: The brief exchange left 889 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,356 Ketrick shaken, afraid to go back to his own bedroom. 890 00:44:54,492 --> 00:44:56,594 So I went into my sister's room. 891 00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:57,495 And I went to bed. 892 00:45:00,732 --> 00:45:02,968 It seemed like I didn't sleep that long. 893 00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:06,371 But it seemed like about five minutes later, 894 00:45:06,471 --> 00:45:11,810 he busted into the door, and the house was on fire. 895 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:13,611 -The house is on fire! 896 00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:16,081 The house is on fire! 897 00:45:16,181 --> 00:45:17,548 [screaming] 898 00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,923 He told me to start busting out windows, 899 00:45:25,023 --> 00:45:28,226 and stuff to try to get air coming through the house, 900 00:45:28,326 --> 00:45:30,161 because we couldn't go through the front door. 901 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,535 NARRATOR: The only hope of escape was through the windows. 902 00:45:37,635 --> 00:45:40,605 But the safety releases for the burglar bars inexplicably 903 00:45:40,705 --> 00:45:43,875 jammed, and refused to budge. 904 00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,979 I saw my sister Erica laying on the bed crying. 905 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,148 And I tried to save her so she can get air. 906 00:45:50,248 --> 00:45:52,583 But she was in such a panic. 907 00:45:52,683 --> 00:45:56,888 And then my sister, she was bursting out windows. 908 00:45:56,988 --> 00:45:58,623 And she cut herself real bad. 909 00:45:58,723 --> 00:46:01,359 And she got into a panic. 910 00:46:01,459 --> 00:46:04,129 And I looked over to my little brother Jamal. 911 00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:06,898 And he was already dead. 912 00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:10,035 And I looked over to my niece, Jas. 913 00:46:10,135 --> 00:46:11,036 She was already dead. 914 00:46:13,939 --> 00:46:15,807 NARRATOR: By the time firemen arrived, flames 915 00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:17,675 had engulfed much of the house. 916 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:19,310 All six children were trapped. 917 00:46:22,313 --> 00:46:25,383 Repeated attempts to break down the front door failed. 918 00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:27,986 Inside, a coach had been propped against the door, 919 00:46:28,086 --> 00:46:28,887 holding it closed. 920 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,230 The burglar bars doomed any chance of a quick rescue. 921 00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:42,400 And precious minutes dribbled away, as firefighters fought 922 00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:43,434 their way through the iron. 923 00:46:50,408 --> 00:46:52,810 10 minutes later, the bars gave way. 924 00:46:52,911 --> 00:46:56,047 Firemen didn't know if anyone was still alive inside. 925 00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:58,149 While parts of the house continued to burn, 926 00:46:58,249 --> 00:47:00,251 they began searching for survivors. 927 00:47:00,351 --> 00:47:02,220 They found Ketrick Jordan first. 928 00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:09,060 Ketrick was burned over more than 75% of his body. 929 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,396 Dimitra Jordan was also pulled out alive, 930 00:47:11,496 --> 00:47:14,866 but she would die the next day at the hospital. 931 00:47:14,966 --> 00:47:16,601 The bodies of the other four children 932 00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:19,537 were found huddled together, lifeless at the foot 933 00:47:19,637 --> 00:47:20,805 of the barred window. 934 00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:27,012 At that very moment, Molly Jordan was 935 00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:28,880 rushing home from the hospital. 936 00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:31,582 She had been called by a relative, who said only, 937 00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:35,220 the children are all gone. 938 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,957 When I got about a mile or so from the house, 939 00:47:39,057 --> 00:47:40,091 one ambulance passed me. 940 00:47:40,191 --> 00:47:42,460 They were just screaming and going. 941 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,029 Then I started feeling sick at the stomach. 942 00:47:44,129 --> 00:47:45,263 Then I was thinking, well, it didn't 943 00:47:45,363 --> 00:47:46,297 have to come from my house. 944 00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:47,698 There's a lot of houses. 945 00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:50,268 But when I got within a few blocks, 946 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:52,938 it was another one passed me screaming and hollering. 947 00:47:53,038 --> 00:47:55,040 And I just got real sick to the stomach, 948 00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:57,875 heart went to beating fast, and all this. 949 00:47:57,976 --> 00:47:59,810 It seemed like I couldn't breathe. 950 00:47:59,911 --> 00:48:02,447 I couldn't walk. I couldn't stop. 951 00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:04,182 I couldn't talk. 952 00:48:04,282 --> 00:48:06,584 Just everything left my body it seemed like. 953 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,655 NARRATOR: Once the flames were extinguished, 954 00:48:10,755 --> 00:48:14,292 arson investigators easily determined that the deadly fire 955 00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:17,662 had been deliberately set. 956 00:48:17,762 --> 00:48:21,967 In the main living room, we found a gasoline can that 957 00:48:22,067 --> 00:48:23,701 had been there during the fire. 958 00:48:23,801 --> 00:48:25,136 And later on during the investigation, 959 00:48:25,236 --> 00:48:28,106 we actually did find samples of flammable liquid 960 00:48:28,206 --> 00:48:33,378 that had been poured on the floor and set on fire. 961 00:48:33,478 --> 00:48:34,779 NARRATOR: Investigators soon pieced 962 00:48:34,879 --> 00:48:36,747 together what they believe are the events 963 00:48:36,847 --> 00:48:37,782 that led up to the fire. 964 00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,022 The drug people had come to seek payment from Bernard, 965 00:48:44,122 --> 00:48:46,057 wanted him to come outside. 966 00:48:46,157 --> 00:48:47,125 He did not come outside. 967 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,896 They set the house on fire to get him to come outside. 968 00:48:51,997 --> 00:48:53,931 But, unfortunately, the whole family 969 00:48:54,032 --> 00:48:56,234 got caught in the burglar bars, and didn't come out. 970 00:48:56,334 --> 00:48:59,704 So we have an act of arson that resulted in five murders, 971 00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:03,041 and one severe injury. 972 00:49:03,141 --> 00:49:04,775 NARRATOR: Police now believe Bernard piled up 973 00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:07,478 furniture in a desperate attempt to keep the assailants out 974 00:49:07,578 --> 00:49:08,746 of the house. 975 00:49:08,846 --> 00:49:12,083 Instead, both the couch jammed against the front door 976 00:49:12,183 --> 00:49:15,053 and a love seat wedged behind the hallway door trapped 977 00:49:15,153 --> 00:49:17,788 the children in the house. 978 00:49:17,888 --> 00:49:20,291 The arsonist probably entered through this window, 979 00:49:20,391 --> 00:49:21,993 one of two not equipped with bars. 980 00:49:24,996 --> 00:49:26,831 He worked quite hard to try to find who 981 00:49:26,931 --> 00:49:29,400 was responsible for the fire. 982 00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,803 We did come up with one name, one of the individuals 983 00:49:32,903 --> 00:49:35,440 supplying drugs to Bernard. 984 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,209 His name was Curly, the nickname Curly. 985 00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:41,846 He was a black male, about 5' 10" in height, 986 00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:43,448 weighed about 160 pounds. 987 00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:45,916 We never have found Curly, or any of his friends. 988 00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:49,587 But Curly is known to have bragged about setting the fire. 989 00:49:54,259 --> 00:49:55,893 NARRATOR: Three days after the tragedy, 990 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:59,797 some 2,000 people gathered at Carver Heights Baptist Church 991 00:49:59,897 --> 00:50:04,569 to mourn the loss of the five Jordan children. 992 00:50:04,669 --> 00:50:08,073 In the five years since, Ketrick Jordan, the lone survivor, 993 00:50:08,173 --> 00:50:10,841 has endured a dozen operations, including 994 00:50:10,941 --> 00:50:15,146 the amputation of both legs. 995 00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:17,082 Ketrick is now 16. 996 00:50:17,182 --> 00:50:20,185 Prosthetic limbs have allowed him to walk again. 997 00:50:20,285 --> 00:50:22,820 After the fire, an outpouring of contributions 998 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,555 from the community enabled Ketrick 999 00:50:24,655 --> 00:50:26,957 and his grandmother to move to a new home 1000 00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:29,394 in a different part of Dallas. 1001 00:50:29,494 --> 00:50:31,362 [music playing] 1002 00:50:48,179 --> 00:50:50,115 NARRATOR: Do you believe in angels? 1003 00:50:50,215 --> 00:50:52,483 Here are the incredible stories of two women 1004 00:50:52,583 --> 00:50:54,419 who believed celestial intervention 1005 00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:57,488 saved them from certain death. 1006 00:50:57,588 --> 00:50:59,557 In California, police are searching 1007 00:50:59,657 --> 00:51:01,326 for an unknown witness who may have 1008 00:51:01,426 --> 00:51:06,197 vital information about the murder of a deputy Sheriff. 1009 00:51:06,297 --> 00:51:08,533 And two poignant stories of lost love-- 1010 00:51:08,633 --> 00:51:11,302 in one, a woman battling a fatal illness 1011 00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:13,838 hopes to find her long lost sister. 1012 00:51:13,938 --> 00:51:17,074 In the other, Brenda Abby's search for her birth parents 1013 00:51:17,175 --> 00:51:19,110 has taken her into the unfamiliar world 1014 00:51:19,210 --> 00:51:20,711 of the traveling carnival. 1015 00:51:20,811 --> 00:51:22,613 [music playing] 1016 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,923 NARRATOR: Do angels dwell among us? 1017 00:51:33,023 --> 00:51:35,660 More than 1,000 years ago, St. Augustine 1018 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,062 wrote that every visible thing in this world 1019 00:51:38,163 --> 00:51:40,398 is put in the charge of an angel. 1020 00:51:40,498 --> 00:51:43,501 Even today, most of us hope those words are true. 1021 00:51:46,537 --> 00:51:49,106 You're about to meet two women, both of whom 1022 00:51:49,207 --> 00:51:50,241 are certain that they were placed 1023 00:51:50,341 --> 00:51:51,942 in the charge of a guardian angel 1024 00:51:52,042 --> 00:51:54,545 just when they needed it most. 1025 00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:57,548 Consider first the case of Janie Shamal. 1026 00:51:57,648 --> 00:52:00,685 Her story begins in 1976. 1027 00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:03,888 Janie had just turned 14, when her brother and sister-in-law 1028 00:52:03,988 --> 00:52:05,290 took her on a Western vacation. 1029 00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,296 They traveled in a camper with another family, 1030 00:52:11,396 --> 00:52:15,132 and visited all the usual tourist attractions. 1031 00:52:15,233 --> 00:52:17,535 However, one stop stands out. 1032 00:52:17,635 --> 00:52:19,637 In the painted desert, something amazing 1033 00:52:19,737 --> 00:52:23,841 happened, something Janie, who is now 31, will never forget. 1034 00:52:26,844 --> 00:52:29,814 I had gotten a new camera for the trip. 1035 00:52:29,914 --> 00:52:33,684 And I was curious to get some good photographs. 1036 00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:38,489 And I can remember leaning up against the guardrail, 1037 00:52:38,589 --> 00:52:41,426 focusing the camera, and thinking, you know, 1038 00:52:41,526 --> 00:52:43,194 if I just got on this other side of this guard rail 1039 00:52:43,294 --> 00:52:44,629 down there a little bit, it would 1040 00:52:44,729 --> 00:52:49,133 be a much better photograph. 1041 00:52:49,234 --> 00:52:52,770 As nearly as anyone can figure, just at that same moment, 1042 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:55,806 Janie's mother surely, who had stayed home in Michigan, 1043 00:52:55,906 --> 00:53:00,144 was sitting down to read her Bible, as she did every day. 1044 00:53:00,245 --> 00:53:03,481 I really felt that I was led by the Holy Spirit 1045 00:53:03,581 --> 00:53:05,350 to read psalm 91. 1046 00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:11,556 And I began sobbing, just sobbing, because I 1047 00:53:11,656 --> 00:53:14,892 knew Janie was going to die. 1048 00:53:14,992 --> 00:53:17,862 I didn't know why or how. 1049 00:53:17,962 --> 00:53:22,300 But I knew she was going to die. 1050 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,301 [shouting] 1051 00:53:27,505 --> 00:53:28,839 - She's gone over the edge! - Where did she go? 1052 00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:29,807 Right over the railing. 1053 00:53:29,907 --> 00:53:31,509 I can't see her anymore. 1054 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:38,549 Suddenly, I just stopped. 1055 00:53:38,649 --> 00:53:39,784 I just stopped. 1056 00:53:39,884 --> 00:53:43,888 And I can remember thinking, I'm so glad I stopped, 1057 00:53:43,988 --> 00:53:46,090 and thinking, what stopped me? 1058 00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:50,695 I was afraid. 1059 00:53:50,795 --> 00:53:52,196 I was scared that there was no way I was going 1060 00:53:52,297 --> 00:53:54,932 to get back up to the top. 1061 00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:56,601 I could not see the top. 1062 00:53:56,701 --> 00:53:59,437 I couldn't hear my family yelling for me. 1063 00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:06,210 I knew I had to be very careful, or I would start falling again. 1064 00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:17,488 As soon as I had this feeling that Janie was going to die, 1065 00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:23,994 I began pleading with the Lord too, please, don't let her die. 1066 00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:27,865 And that would be more than what I could bear. 1067 00:54:27,965 --> 00:54:32,403 I continued to read psalm 91. 1068 00:54:32,503 --> 00:54:37,842 It said, and he shall give His angels charge over thee to keep 1069 00:54:37,942 --> 00:54:40,044 thee in all thy ways. 1070 00:54:40,144 --> 00:54:43,013 And they shall bear the up in their hands, 1071 00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:47,585 lest your foot dash against a stone. 1072 00:54:47,685 --> 00:54:53,524 And then a peace just came over me, because I believed it. 1073 00:54:58,295 --> 00:54:59,397 Janie? 1074 00:54:59,497 --> 00:55:00,398 Alfred, it's Janie! 1075 00:55:00,498 --> 00:55:01,699 She's back! Janie! 1076 00:55:01,799 --> 00:55:03,000 You're all right. 1077 00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:07,738 Janie, what happened? 1078 00:55:07,838 --> 00:55:08,806 I don't know. 1079 00:55:08,906 --> 00:55:09,807 I fell a long ways. 1080 00:55:09,907 --> 00:55:11,976 I don't even remember coming back up. 1081 00:55:12,076 --> 00:55:13,944 At least you're all right. 1082 00:55:14,044 --> 00:55:14,979 I was afraid I was going-- 1083 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:20,585 I know I did not climb up myself. 1084 00:55:20,685 --> 00:55:22,219 Something strange had happened. 1085 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:27,658 But I just kind of was glad I was back up there. 1086 00:55:27,758 --> 00:55:31,496 We had talked among ourselves about calling her mother. 1087 00:55:31,596 --> 00:55:35,165 And we decided that she could call her mother, 1088 00:55:35,265 --> 00:55:38,569 but not to say anything about her fall, 1089 00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:41,138 mainly because we didn't want to upset Shirley. 1090 00:55:41,238 --> 00:55:44,008 And we were so far away from home. 1091 00:55:44,108 --> 00:55:47,378 Tell me all about your trip. 1092 00:55:47,478 --> 00:55:49,279 NARRATOR: But, inevitably, once Janie 1093 00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,485 was back home in Michigan with her mother, the truth came out. 1094 00:55:54,585 --> 00:55:56,687 And here's where I stepped over the guardrail, 1095 00:55:56,787 --> 00:55:58,222 and I fell down the slope. 1096 00:55:58,322 --> 00:55:59,590 You what? 1097 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:00,825 I just want to get a better picture. 1098 00:56:00,925 --> 00:56:01,759 So I climbed over the rail. 1099 00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:02,827 And I slipped. 1100 00:56:02,927 --> 00:56:08,098 And I said, what are you talking about? 1101 00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:14,238 And she said, oh, she wasn't supposed to tell. 1102 00:56:14,338 --> 00:56:17,174 When did this happen? 1103 00:56:17,274 --> 00:56:18,976 When we were in Arizona. 1104 00:56:19,076 --> 00:56:22,146 You remember that night I called to tell you everything was OK? 1105 00:56:22,246 --> 00:56:24,582 Well, it happened that morning. 1106 00:56:24,682 --> 00:56:27,585 When Janie was telling her story, 1107 00:56:27,685 --> 00:56:31,255 I really realized the whole magnitude 1108 00:56:31,355 --> 00:56:35,726 of what had happened to me. 1109 00:56:35,826 --> 00:56:41,732 Then I knew that verses 11 and 12, that the angel shall bare 1110 00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,470 thee up in their hands, lest your foot dash 1111 00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:50,207 against the stone, that they were the ones that 1112 00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:53,043 brought her back to the top. 1113 00:56:53,143 --> 00:56:56,146 When I heard my mother's story of what had happened that day, 1114 00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:59,584 and her feelings that I was going to die, 1115 00:56:59,684 --> 00:57:01,786 I realized then that it was her prayers that 1116 00:57:01,886 --> 00:57:05,322 had sent the angels that had made me stop, 1117 00:57:05,422 --> 00:57:06,824 and had brought me to the top of the canyon. 1118 00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:13,698 How do you explain what happened to Janie Shamal? 1119 00:57:13,798 --> 00:57:15,866 Even though Janie neither saw nor heard anything 1120 00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,469 to confirm it, she is thoroughly convinced that she 1121 00:57:18,569 --> 00:57:21,171 was rescued by an angel. 1122 00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:23,608 Estella Vera of Riverside, California 1123 00:57:23,708 --> 00:57:26,777 reports an even more dramatic experience. 1124 00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:29,747 Estella believes not only that an angel saved her, 1125 00:57:29,847 --> 00:57:31,716 but that she actually saw him do it. 1126 00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:38,055 On Saturday, March 30th, 1991, Estella and her two 1127 00:57:38,155 --> 00:57:40,090 grown children were on their way home 1128 00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:43,828 when they spotted an ice cream truck being robbed. 1129 00:57:43,928 --> 00:57:45,930 Estella's daughter ran to call the police, 1130 00:57:46,030 --> 00:57:49,800 while her son rushed to help the ice cream truck owner. 1131 00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:51,969 He and another and were already grappling 1132 00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:54,071 with the large, musclebound assailant. 1133 00:57:54,171 --> 00:57:56,006 [shouting] 1134 00:58:03,347 --> 00:58:05,082 I knew there was absolutely nothing I could do. 1135 00:58:05,182 --> 00:58:07,952 And I saw my mother in the path of his van. 1136 00:58:08,052 --> 00:58:08,853 Mama! 1137 00:58:13,624 --> 00:58:15,726 I knew she was in between the two. 1138 00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:19,296 So I think instantly, I thought she was dead. 1139 00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:24,434 NARRATOR: Estella's left leg had been severed below the knee. 1140 00:58:24,535 --> 00:58:27,337 And she had suffered cardiac arrest. 1141 00:58:27,437 --> 00:58:30,507 At the hospital, Mingo and his father kept vigil. 1142 00:58:30,608 --> 00:58:32,777 What did the doctor say? 1143 00:58:32,877 --> 00:58:36,246 The first time I saw my mother after the incident, 1144 00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:37,815 I could not recognize her. 1145 00:58:37,915 --> 00:58:41,586 Her face was completely swollen. 1146 00:58:41,686 --> 00:58:44,388 And we were just waiting for any word 1147 00:58:44,488 --> 00:58:47,925 whether or not she would even survive. 1148 00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:50,060 NARRATOR: Estella drifted in and out of consciousness 1149 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,062 for the next several days. 1150 00:58:52,162 --> 00:58:54,164 Finally, she awoke. 1151 00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:55,065 He's OK. 1152 00:58:55,165 --> 00:58:56,000 He's right here. 1153 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:57,802 It's good to hear your voice, Mom. 1154 00:58:57,902 --> 00:59:00,504 Did you see the man by the trunk? 1155 00:59:00,605 --> 00:59:01,405 Don't worry, Mama. 1156 00:59:01,505 --> 00:59:04,341 He's in jail. 1157 00:59:04,441 --> 00:59:08,245 No, the other man, surrounded by light, 1158 00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:10,581 in front of the truck. 1159 00:59:10,681 --> 00:59:12,717 Was this some dream, Estella? 1160 00:59:12,817 --> 00:59:17,487 No, he was standing by the truck. 1161 00:59:17,588 --> 00:59:21,025 My father and I looked at each other kind of puzzled, 1162 00:59:21,125 --> 00:59:23,928 and possibly looking at her as if she 1163 00:59:24,028 --> 00:59:26,764 may have dreamt something within the time 1164 00:59:26,864 --> 00:59:29,700 she was in the hospital. 1165 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,604 NARRATOR: But Estella insisted she had not been dreaming. 1166 00:59:33,704 --> 00:59:36,406 The story she tells is truly astonishing. 1167 00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:48,052 I remember just looking at this truck coming so fast. 1168 00:59:48,152 --> 00:59:54,925 And just with all my heart, I said to God, God, 1169 00:59:55,025 --> 00:59:57,728 please don't let me die. 1170 00:59:57,828 --> 01:00:01,031 And then I started reciting psalms that I know. 1171 01:00:01,131 --> 01:00:04,168 I said the angel of the Lord takes 1172 01:00:04,268 --> 01:00:06,370 care of those that loves him. 1173 01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:09,373 And then I look again. 1174 01:00:09,473 --> 01:00:12,042 And the truck is right in front of me. 1175 01:00:12,142 --> 01:00:16,246 And I could see the robber's face. 1176 01:00:16,346 --> 01:00:18,382 He looks so angry. 1177 01:00:18,482 --> 01:00:20,384 You could see those eyes. 1178 01:00:20,484 --> 01:00:22,619 He was desperate. 1179 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,254 I look again. 1180 01:00:24,354 --> 01:00:33,030 And now, in front of the truck, there is this beautiful person. 1181 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:36,266 He looks so peaceful, so beautiful. 1182 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:40,504 He has the most beautiful smile. 1183 01:00:40,604 --> 01:00:42,707 You could see him, like in slow motion. 1184 01:00:47,011 --> 01:00:50,214 Immediately, I forgot about the ice cream truck. 1185 01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:53,617 I forgot about everything that was happening. 1186 01:00:53,718 --> 01:00:57,121 All I remember was this beautiful face. 1187 01:00:57,221 --> 01:00:58,422 And then I grab his hand. 1188 01:01:01,225 --> 01:01:03,861 I put my face over his hand. 1189 01:01:03,961 --> 01:01:06,096 And I would go on like this. 1190 01:01:06,196 --> 01:01:08,165 And I remembered, a couple of times, 1191 01:01:08,265 --> 01:01:10,768 I opened my eyes to look at his face 1192 01:01:10,868 --> 01:01:12,837 to be sure that he was there. 1193 01:01:12,937 --> 01:01:16,140 And I could see him right over there looking at me 1194 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,342 with a big smile. 1195 01:01:18,442 --> 01:01:19,676 I believed her. 1196 01:01:19,777 --> 01:01:23,413 She was very sincere, very excited, very sure of the fact 1197 01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,349 that the angel was there. 1198 01:01:28,052 --> 01:01:33,758 I felt possibly a little doubtful myself, because nobody 1199 01:01:33,858 --> 01:01:36,560 else saw anything. 1200 01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:41,065 But you can see it in her eyes that it was true. 1201 01:01:41,165 --> 01:01:46,036 I cannot really explain this beautiful experience. 1202 01:01:46,136 --> 01:01:50,975 I have no doubt in my heart that God sent an angel to save me. 1203 01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:55,645 I ask everyone if they saw this beautiful person pulling 1204 01:01:55,746 --> 01:01:57,514 me to the side and helping me. 1205 01:01:57,614 --> 01:02:01,385 Nobody knew what I was talking about. 1206 01:02:01,485 --> 01:02:05,022 But I knew that it was true, that God 1207 01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:07,157 sent an angel to save me. 1208 01:02:14,631 --> 01:02:16,867 Remarkably, Estella Vera feels no bitterness 1209 01:02:16,967 --> 01:02:18,202 about the accident. 1210 01:02:18,302 --> 01:02:19,770 And with the aid of a prosthesis, 1211 01:02:19,870 --> 01:02:22,973 Estella has already been able to walk again. 1212 01:02:23,073 --> 01:02:25,309 Are there angels among us? 1213 01:02:25,409 --> 01:02:27,577 No matter what anyone else may think, 1214 01:02:27,677 --> 01:02:31,448 Estella Vera firmly believes she is alive today because she was 1215 01:02:31,548 --> 01:02:33,183 visited by a guardian angel. 1216 01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:39,756 When we return, a woman fighting a deadly disease 1217 01:02:39,857 --> 01:02:43,693 needs your help find her long lost sister. 1218 01:02:43,794 --> 01:02:45,562 And police believe a mystery witness 1219 01:02:45,662 --> 01:02:49,266 holds the key to identifying a cold-blooded killer. 1220 01:02:49,366 --> 01:02:50,700 [music playing] 1221 01:03:00,044 --> 01:03:03,013 NARRATOR: For Diane Hamline of La Crucenta, California, 1222 01:03:03,113 --> 01:03:04,849 every day is a race against time. 1223 01:03:07,484 --> 01:03:09,386 The rare and often fatal blood disease 1224 01:03:09,486 --> 01:03:12,222 she has been fighting since 1986 has finally 1225 01:03:12,322 --> 01:03:15,292 reached the crisis point. 1226 01:03:15,392 --> 01:03:16,693 Diane, how are you doing? 1227 01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:18,528 Hi, doc. 1228 01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:21,465 This procedure is going to take about five or 10 minutes. 1229 01:03:21,565 --> 01:03:23,133 You may be a little uncomfortable 1230 01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:24,801 before the biopsy is done. 1231 01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:26,803 How uncomfortable? 1232 01:03:26,904 --> 01:03:27,704 It's going to hurt. 1233 01:03:27,804 --> 01:03:29,473 But it won't take long. 1234 01:03:29,573 --> 01:03:34,044 Diane has a relatively unusual blood disorder, normally 1235 01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:38,748 considered to be an incurable illness, now potentially could 1236 01:03:38,849 --> 01:03:43,921 be cured by the utilization of a bone marrow transplantation, 1237 01:03:44,021 --> 01:03:45,489 fraught with a lot of dangers though, 1238 01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:47,691 and a lot of potential complications, 1239 01:03:47,791 --> 01:03:49,793 so not something to be taken lightly. 1240 01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:55,465 NARRATOR: In all the world, this woman, Diane's younger sister 1241 01:03:55,565 --> 01:03:58,435 Marilyn, is the only potential bone marrow donor who 1242 01:03:58,535 --> 01:04:01,105 offers any chance of success. 1243 01:04:01,205 --> 01:04:04,441 But Diane has no idea where Marilyn is today. 1244 01:04:04,541 --> 01:04:09,246 She hasn't even talked to her sister in more than 20 years. 1245 01:04:09,346 --> 01:04:11,415 I feel I'm asking a lot of my sister 1246 01:04:11,515 --> 01:04:13,483 to do this bone marrow for me. 1247 01:04:13,583 --> 01:04:17,354 But even if she doesn't agree to a transplant, if she says, 1248 01:04:17,454 --> 01:04:19,556 I don't want to do this, I would still 1249 01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:21,892 like to make peace with her. 1250 01:04:21,992 --> 01:04:22,792 She's my sister. 1251 01:04:27,297 --> 01:04:30,000 NARRATOR: Diane is three years older than Marilyn. 1252 01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:34,972 They grew up in Los Angeles during the 1940s. 1253 01:04:35,072 --> 01:04:36,506 We were post-war babies. 1254 01:04:36,606 --> 01:04:38,408 And we came from a lot of poverty. 1255 01:04:38,508 --> 01:04:40,010 There wasn't any money. 1256 01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:44,681 And our mother and father had to work long hours. 1257 01:04:44,781 --> 01:04:45,649 We were like most children. 1258 01:04:45,749 --> 01:04:48,385 We fought, and bickered, and didn't 1259 01:04:48,485 --> 01:04:50,120 want to do the housework. 1260 01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:51,055 You know, you do that. 1261 01:04:51,155 --> 01:04:52,489 No, you do that. 1262 01:04:52,589 --> 01:04:53,590 I don't think it hurt us. 1263 01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:56,060 But I think that she resented that. 1264 01:05:02,766 --> 01:05:09,206 NARRATOR: Diane and Marilyn's parents separated in 1954. 1265 01:05:09,306 --> 01:05:11,508 Ultimately, Marilyn went to live with her father. 1266 01:05:18,448 --> 01:05:20,884 After my sister moved in with my dad, 1267 01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:25,055 I saw my sister maybe, like, once a month. 1268 01:05:25,155 --> 01:05:27,824 But as time went on, it became more infrequent. 1269 01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:31,295 And I just think because she went with dad 1270 01:05:31,395 --> 01:05:34,798 and I went with mom, that we separated. 1271 01:05:34,898 --> 01:05:36,233 I mean, we just lost our-- 1272 01:05:36,333 --> 01:05:38,902 we didn't do our activities or anything together anymore. 1273 01:05:43,873 --> 01:05:46,243 NARRATOR: Years passed with little contact. 1274 01:05:46,343 --> 01:05:50,014 In 1965, Diane visited her sister at the restaurant 1275 01:05:50,114 --> 01:05:50,914 where she worked. 1276 01:05:51,015 --> 01:05:53,517 This place never stops. 1277 01:05:53,617 --> 01:05:55,019 So how are you doing? 1278 01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,554 Well, met a new guy. 1279 01:05:57,654 --> 01:05:58,622 Yeah? 1280 01:05:58,722 --> 01:06:00,624 NARRATOR: Marilyn said she was in love. 1281 01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:03,127 She planned to marry a man who had several children 1282 01:06:03,227 --> 01:06:06,130 from a previous marriage. 1283 01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:07,031 Crazy about him. 1284 01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:12,869 NARRATOR: Neither sister realized 1285 01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:15,172 the brief visit would be the last time they would 1286 01:06:15,272 --> 01:06:18,808 see each other face to face. 1287 01:06:18,908 --> 01:06:22,112 Eight years later, they did speak briefly on the phone. 1288 01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:25,649 Marilyn told Diane that she had a little boy named Billy Joe. 1289 01:06:25,749 --> 01:06:27,017 Billy Joe? 1290 01:06:27,117 --> 01:06:28,885 That's good. 1291 01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:31,155 NARRATOR: The sisters talked about getting together. 1292 01:06:31,255 --> 01:06:34,224 But time drifted by, and they never spoke again. 1293 01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:35,125 Bye-bye. 1294 01:06:41,031 --> 01:06:43,500 NARRATOR: In January of 1994, Diane 1295 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,335 hired private investigator Marilyn 1296 01:06:45,435 --> 01:06:47,937 Ganell to find her sister. 1297 01:06:48,038 --> 01:06:50,040 Well, it's like a needle in a haystack, 1298 01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:52,242 because without a name, you have nothing 1299 01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:55,279 to pin your investigation on. 1300 01:06:55,379 --> 01:06:59,883 We have tried certain things with the use of her maiden name 1301 01:06:59,983 --> 01:07:01,985 and her first married name. 1302 01:07:02,086 --> 01:07:03,587 And, of course, her maiden name is 1303 01:07:03,687 --> 01:07:06,356 Jones, which makes it extremely difficult. 1304 01:07:06,456 --> 01:07:10,727 There's no paucity of Jones available. 1305 01:07:10,827 --> 01:07:11,628 How are you? 1306 01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:12,796 How are you, doctor? 1307 01:07:12,896 --> 01:07:13,797 Good. 1308 01:07:13,897 --> 01:07:14,998 NARRATOR: With every passing, day 1309 01:07:15,099 --> 01:07:19,303 Diane's treatment become less and less effective, 1310 01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:21,605 her search more and more vital. 1311 01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:23,640 In the morning. 1312 01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:25,942 Any bleeding, easy bruising? 1313 01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:28,545 I'm having more bruising now. 1314 01:07:28,645 --> 01:07:30,780 NARRATOR: Diane is an unusual person. 1315 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,083 She has a very strong will. 1316 01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:35,185 She's very optimistic. 1317 01:07:35,285 --> 01:07:37,387 She's really, so to speak, already beaten 1318 01:07:37,487 --> 01:07:40,490 the odds by getting this far. 1319 01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:44,161 I think I'm still here after all these years 1320 01:07:44,261 --> 01:07:47,097 is because I don't think that my life should be over with yet. 1321 01:07:47,197 --> 01:07:49,633 You know, I had a daughter to finish 1322 01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:52,536 raising to go to college. 1323 01:07:52,636 --> 01:07:54,571 And I'd like to see her get married and have babies. 1324 01:07:54,671 --> 01:07:56,906 And I just don't feel like checking out of here yet. 1325 01:07:57,006 --> 01:07:58,975 But I think I'm going to pretty soon 1326 01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:02,346 if I don't do something fast. 1327 01:08:02,446 --> 01:08:04,281 When we broadcast Diane's story, 1328 01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:07,251 a private investigator from Denver, Colorado, Robin Lee, 1329 01:08:07,351 --> 01:08:08,552 was watching. 1330 01:08:08,652 --> 01:08:10,187 She was touched by Diane's plight, 1331 01:08:10,287 --> 01:08:12,689 but assumed we would get the clues we needed. 1332 01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:14,023 We didn't. 1333 01:08:14,124 --> 01:08:16,226 As luck would have it, Robin was also watching when 1334 01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:18,462 the segment re-ran in June. 1335 01:08:18,562 --> 01:08:21,131 This time, she decided to volunteer her help in tracking 1336 01:08:21,231 --> 01:08:25,335 Marilyn Down The result was one of our most unusual solves 1337 01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:26,803 ever. 1338 01:08:26,903 --> 01:08:31,275 I contacted the show, got a little more information, 1339 01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:33,743 started out with the sister's name. 1340 01:08:33,843 --> 01:08:35,579 Marilyn Jones was her maiden name, 1341 01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:37,681 started with that and the date of birth, 1342 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,849 and went on from there. 1343 01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:42,152 And it took me about three days to find her, 1344 01:08:42,252 --> 01:08:44,120 three working days, if you don't count the 4th of July 1345 01:08:44,221 --> 01:08:47,824 holiday in between. 1346 01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:51,661 And I think it's great that they're back together. 1347 01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:55,165 NARRATOR: On August 13th, 1994, Marilyn and Diane 1348 01:08:55,265 --> 01:08:58,001 met face to face for the first time in 30 years. 1349 01:09:01,505 --> 01:09:04,341 It's so good to see you. 1350 01:09:04,441 --> 01:09:08,478 Once we hugged, it was like it hadn't been 30 years. 1351 01:09:08,578 --> 01:09:13,082 It had been just a short time. 1352 01:09:13,183 --> 01:09:15,752 I guess maybe that's why I feel comfortable, 1353 01:09:15,852 --> 01:09:18,922 is because I can feel the love. 1354 01:09:19,022 --> 01:09:21,391 And when you feel that love, you feel comfortable. 1355 01:09:21,491 --> 01:09:22,559 You haven't changed a bit. 1356 01:09:22,659 --> 01:09:23,460 Oh no. 1357 01:09:26,095 --> 01:09:27,597 I get cuter with age. 1358 01:09:27,697 --> 01:09:29,666 Yes, you do. 1359 01:09:29,766 --> 01:09:31,100 I think I'm still in shock, you know? 1360 01:09:31,201 --> 01:09:33,270 It's still like, I'm not here yet. 1361 01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:35,505 It's just a dream, you know? 1362 01:09:35,605 --> 01:09:36,840 But it's a great dream. 1363 01:09:36,940 --> 01:09:39,376 And we have a lot of catching up to do. 1364 01:09:39,476 --> 01:09:42,646 And we'll be together forever now. 1365 01:09:42,746 --> 01:09:44,047 We're going to have a lot of fun together, 1366 01:09:44,147 --> 01:09:47,451 enjoy the time we have. 1367 01:09:47,551 --> 01:09:49,853 Isn't that beautiful? 1368 01:09:49,953 --> 01:09:51,955 NARRATOR: Coincidentally, the day of the reunion 1369 01:09:52,055 --> 01:09:54,458 was Dianne's 53rd birthday. 1370 01:09:54,558 --> 01:09:57,794 And Marilyn had not forgotten. 1371 01:09:57,894 --> 01:10:00,063 And my name is spelled right. 1372 01:10:05,469 --> 01:10:08,204 This is the best gift I've ever had in my whole life. 1373 01:10:08,305 --> 01:10:11,975 This is the best gift ever, is to have my sister, 1374 01:10:12,075 --> 01:10:15,279 and to have my family for my birthday. 1375 01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:17,213 It'll be the best birthday I've ever had in my whole life. 1376 01:10:21,451 --> 01:10:23,019 NARRATOR: On the day of the reunion, 1377 01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:26,122 Marilyn's fondest wish was to prove a compatible bone 1378 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:28,392 marrow donor for her sister. 1379 01:10:28,492 --> 01:10:30,159 Do I have to go to the movies? 1380 01:10:30,260 --> 01:10:32,462 To the movies, we have go all the way to Canada. 1381 01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:33,363 [laughter] 1382 01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:39,903 I want more than anything to have this work with Dyann. 1383 01:10:40,003 --> 01:10:41,571 But even if it doesn't, we're going 1384 01:10:41,671 --> 01:10:46,042 to take full advantage of however 1385 01:10:46,142 --> 01:10:49,546 long we do have together. 1386 01:10:49,646 --> 01:10:52,349 We can make a week seem like an eternity. 1387 01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:00,724 As it turned out, a series of tests 1388 01:11:00,824 --> 01:11:03,893 showed Marilyn's bone marrow would not work for Dyann. 1389 01:11:03,993 --> 01:11:05,829 But there is a ray of hope. 1390 01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,565 Doctors are now moving on to a new experimental therapy 1391 01:11:08,665 --> 01:11:10,900 for Dyann's blood disorder. 1392 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,436 In the meantime, she and Marilyn are 1393 01:11:12,536 --> 01:11:14,438 making the most of their precious, newly 1394 01:11:14,538 --> 01:11:15,605 kindled relationship. 1395 01:11:15,705 --> 01:11:17,541 [music playing] 1396 01:11:29,853 --> 01:11:32,889 January 24th, 1987, a deputy Sheriff 1397 01:11:32,989 --> 01:11:34,558 named Charlie Anderson was gunned down 1398 01:11:34,658 --> 01:11:37,361 in his Burbank, California home. 1399 01:11:37,461 --> 01:11:38,895 The next day, an anonymous witness 1400 01:11:38,995 --> 01:11:40,864 phoned the Burbank Police, claiming to know 1401 01:11:40,964 --> 01:11:42,799 the identity of the killer. 1402 01:11:42,899 --> 01:11:44,634 But the caller, obviously nervous, 1403 01:11:44,734 --> 01:11:47,236 hung up before revealing any information. 1404 01:11:47,337 --> 01:11:49,272 He never called back. 1405 01:11:49,373 --> 01:11:51,975 Authorities hope that tonight, seven years later, 1406 01:11:52,075 --> 01:11:55,211 this mystery witness will finally come forward, and solve 1407 01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:56,680 the murder of Charlie Anderson. 1408 01:12:00,183 --> 01:12:02,251 Charlie Anderson was a 14-year veteran 1409 01:12:02,352 --> 01:12:04,888 of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. 1410 01:12:08,992 --> 01:12:11,928 He distinguished himself as a highly skilled driver, teaching 1411 01:12:12,028 --> 01:12:13,563 hundreds of officers how to handle 1412 01:12:13,663 --> 01:12:18,868 themselves in their vehicles in dangerous situations. 1413 01:12:18,968 --> 01:12:22,406 Charlie was probably one of the most talented drivers 1414 01:12:22,506 --> 01:12:24,441 that I've ever met. 1415 01:12:24,541 --> 01:12:27,977 It was a natural talent tell for him. 1416 01:12:28,077 --> 01:12:30,079 Charlie was able to get along with everybody. 1417 01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,716 He was serious on the job. 1418 01:12:32,816 --> 01:12:34,451 But he had a good sense of humor when he was 1419 01:12:34,551 --> 01:12:36,052 around the rest of the staff. 1420 01:12:39,456 --> 01:12:41,224 NARRATOR: By all accounts, Charlie Anderson 1421 01:12:41,324 --> 01:12:43,493 was also a dedicated father, never 1422 01:12:43,593 --> 01:12:47,263 too busy to spend evenings and weekends with his two sons. 1423 01:12:47,363 --> 01:12:50,800 Charlie didn't seem to have an enemy in the world 1424 01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:57,674 until the early hours of January 24th, 1987. 1425 01:12:57,774 --> 01:13:00,977 Charlie's wife Beth told police that around midnight, she, 1426 01:13:01,077 --> 01:13:04,113 Charlie, and their two young sons returned home from a visit 1427 01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,381 to her parents. 1428 01:13:05,482 --> 01:13:09,052 Oh, he's out like a light. 1429 01:13:09,152 --> 01:13:10,554 Well, I'll bring him upstairs. 1430 01:13:10,654 --> 01:13:14,023 And then I'll come back for you and the babies. 1431 01:13:14,123 --> 01:13:15,592 They arrived home. 1432 01:13:15,692 --> 01:13:19,362 And because Mrs. Anderson was suffering from a back injury, 1433 01:13:19,463 --> 01:13:21,565 her husband offered to go inside the house 1434 01:13:21,665 --> 01:13:24,233 with her oldest boy first. 1435 01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:26,069 He asked her to wait in the car. 1436 01:13:26,169 --> 01:13:28,738 And she did so. 1437 01:13:28,838 --> 01:13:33,443 Charlie Anderson went in the house with the oldest son, 1438 01:13:33,543 --> 01:13:34,678 and we believe took him upstairs. 1439 01:13:37,781 --> 01:13:39,282 A few moments later, Mrs. Anderson 1440 01:13:39,382 --> 01:13:42,051 heard what sounded like backfires from where 1441 01:13:42,151 --> 01:13:43,520 she was parked in the driveway. 1442 01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,856 She was still seated in the car. 1443 01:13:46,956 --> 01:13:49,826 Because the sound was unusual, she walked to the house 1444 01:13:49,926 --> 01:13:51,561 and called in to see if there was anything wrong. 1445 01:13:57,634 --> 01:13:58,434 Charlie? 1446 01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:03,840 Charlie? 1447 01:14:08,377 --> 01:14:10,213 Honey, are you up here? 1448 01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:15,652 Charlie? 1449 01:14:15,752 --> 01:14:16,920 Honey? 1450 01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:18,154 Charlie, can you hear me? 1451 01:14:23,026 --> 01:14:27,063 She ran downstairs, picked up her younger son, 1452 01:14:27,163 --> 01:14:29,098 and ran a next door neighbor's house. 1453 01:14:29,198 --> 01:14:30,066 Help! 1454 01:14:30,166 --> 01:14:30,967 Help! 1455 01:14:38,274 --> 01:14:41,344 Initially, the detectives believed that the house was 1456 01:14:41,444 --> 01:14:43,747 being burglarized, and that Mr. Anderson 1457 01:14:43,847 --> 01:14:45,782 had interrupted the burglary, and had 1458 01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:49,185 confronted the suspects. 1459 01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:51,755 One of the things that was not consistent with a burglary 1460 01:14:51,855 --> 01:14:55,525 was the suspect had very carefully moved items. 1461 01:14:55,625 --> 01:14:58,494 Normally, in a burglary, the suspects, or the burglars, 1462 01:14:58,595 --> 01:15:00,864 are working very quickly, they'll pull out a drawer, 1463 01:15:00,964 --> 01:15:02,832 and dump the entire drawer, just to examine 1464 01:15:02,932 --> 01:15:04,668 all the contents at once. 1465 01:15:04,768 --> 01:15:09,205 What the investigators found was that the drawers had been 1466 01:15:09,305 --> 01:15:12,275 either pulled out partially, or carefully pull out, 1467 01:15:12,375 --> 01:15:14,510 and maybe one item removed. 1468 01:15:14,611 --> 01:15:18,347 And they felt that that was inconsistent with most burglary 1469 01:15:18,447 --> 01:15:19,448 scenes that they had seen. 1470 01:15:22,118 --> 01:15:23,887 NARRATOR: There were other telltale signs 1471 01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:25,421 that the burglary had been staged. 1472 01:15:28,491 --> 01:15:31,227 While they had selected certain items 1473 01:15:31,327 --> 01:15:34,497 and placed them together to be taken from the house, 1474 01:15:34,598 --> 01:15:37,133 they had overlooked other items that were much more valuable 1475 01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:39,636 that were in plain sight. 1476 01:15:39,736 --> 01:15:42,572 This led to a second theory that this might have been someone 1477 01:15:42,672 --> 01:15:45,474 that, perhaps, knew Deputy Anderson that 1478 01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:46,442 confronted him and shot him. 1479 01:15:49,045 --> 01:15:50,614 NARRATOR: Charlie's sister Trish believes 1480 01:15:50,714 --> 01:15:52,716 that is exactly what happened. 1481 01:15:52,816 --> 01:15:56,552 She was at the scene that night, called by a neighbor. 1482 01:15:56,653 --> 01:15:59,956 But what really surprised me was the look on his face. 1483 01:16:00,056 --> 01:16:03,793 He had a look, a wide-eyed look, as if he'd 1484 01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:06,930 been shocked or betrayed. 1485 01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:11,901 It's something that lingers with me today. 1486 01:16:12,001 --> 01:16:13,970 NARRATOR: Was Charlie Anderson ambushed by someone 1487 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:17,506 he knew, someone who dressed up a cold-blooded murder 1488 01:16:17,607 --> 01:16:21,310 to look like a random burglary gone wrong? 1489 01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:25,014 In the end, evidence at the crime scene was ambiguous. 1490 01:16:25,114 --> 01:16:27,116 The only identifiable fingerprints were 1491 01:16:27,216 --> 01:16:30,086 all from members of the family. 1492 01:16:30,186 --> 01:16:33,723 Police were left with a murder victim and virtually no leads 1493 01:16:33,823 --> 01:16:37,260 until the mysterious phone call one day later. 1494 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,428 What you are about to hear is a reenactment 1495 01:16:39,528 --> 01:16:41,530 of that conversation, taken directly 1496 01:16:41,631 --> 01:16:44,668 from police transcripts. 1497 01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:45,601 Burbank Police Department. 1498 01:16:45,702 --> 01:16:46,903 May I help you? 1499 01:16:47,003 --> 01:16:50,106 MAN: Yes, may I speak to the officer in charge, please? 1500 01:16:50,206 --> 01:16:52,676 Sure, regarding what type of incident? 1501 01:16:52,776 --> 01:16:57,113 MAN: This is some information that might lead to the killer 1502 01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:59,783 that shot the deputy Sheriff. 1503 01:16:59,883 --> 01:17:00,684 OK, wait a minute. 1504 01:17:00,784 --> 01:17:03,452 Hang on just a second. 1505 01:17:03,552 --> 01:17:06,222 At that time, the investigator handling the case 1506 01:17:06,322 --> 01:17:08,024 was in the station. 1507 01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:10,894 And he was called to the dispatch area 1508 01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:13,730 so he could speak with the person that had called in. 1509 01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:16,199 MAN: I know who did the shooting. 1510 01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:17,801 OK, the watch commanders on his way 1511 01:17:17,901 --> 01:17:19,936 down here to answer the phone, OK? 1512 01:17:20,036 --> 01:17:21,738 MAN: I can't wait too long. 1513 01:17:21,838 --> 01:17:23,673 OK, here's the detective handling the case right now. 1514 01:17:23,773 --> 01:17:26,042 Hang on, just a second. 1515 01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:28,177 Hi there, what can I do for you? 1516 01:17:28,277 --> 01:17:29,746 MAN: Is this being recorded. 1517 01:17:29,846 --> 01:17:30,880 Yes, it is. 1518 01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:33,482 MAN: I can't speak to you if this is recorded. 1519 01:17:33,582 --> 01:17:35,819 OK, why don't I give you the number of my office 1520 01:17:35,919 --> 01:17:37,253 where it is not recorded? 1521 01:17:37,353 --> 01:17:38,487 I'm not going to lie to you, OK? 1522 01:17:38,587 --> 01:17:39,789 MAN: I don't like recordings. 1523 01:17:39,889 --> 01:17:41,657 The man on the line was very, very nervous. 1524 01:17:41,758 --> 01:17:44,460 He was very concerned about his voice being taped, 1525 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,497 about the call being traced, or in any way the police 1526 01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:50,366 identifying who he was. 1527 01:17:50,466 --> 01:17:52,368 MAN: I'm not playing around. 1528 01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:55,504 NARRATOR: The call could not be routed to an unrecorded line. 1529 01:17:55,604 --> 01:17:57,306 The detective had to ask the witness 1530 01:17:57,406 --> 01:17:59,108 to hang up and call again. 1531 01:17:59,208 --> 01:18:00,276 OK, well as I said, you're going 1532 01:18:00,376 --> 01:18:01,477 to have to give me about two minutes 1533 01:18:01,577 --> 01:18:02,445 to get back to my office. 1534 01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:03,546 MAN: All right. 1535 01:18:03,646 --> 01:18:04,480 OK. 1536 01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:06,115 NARRATOR: The man readily agreed. 1537 01:18:06,215 --> 01:18:07,784 But the phone call never came. 1538 01:18:13,723 --> 01:18:17,093 On January 31st, 1987, Charlie Anderson 1539 01:18:17,193 --> 01:18:20,363 was laid to rest with the full honors reserved for officers 1540 01:18:20,463 --> 01:18:22,365 killed in the line of duty. 1541 01:18:22,465 --> 01:18:25,769 Since then, lack of evidence has dragged the investigation 1542 01:18:25,869 --> 01:18:27,904 to a standstill. 1543 01:18:28,004 --> 01:18:31,007 Seven years after the murder of Charlie Anderson, 1544 01:18:31,107 --> 01:18:33,910 authorities are still searching for the unidentified caller. 1545 01:18:39,282 --> 01:18:40,516 We feel it's very, very important 1546 01:18:40,616 --> 01:18:42,819 to locate this caller, because he 1547 01:18:42,919 --> 01:18:45,354 was concerned enough to call us right at the beginning 1548 01:18:45,454 --> 01:18:46,956 of the investigation. 1549 01:18:47,056 --> 01:18:48,925 He has never been identified. 1550 01:18:49,025 --> 01:18:50,526 And we're very, very interested in speaking 1551 01:18:50,626 --> 01:18:54,430 to him to find out what he does know about this case. 1552 01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:56,399 [music playing] 1553 01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:09,745 NARRATOR: Next, a woman's search for her birth parents 1554 01:19:09,846 --> 01:19:13,749 draws her into the exotic world of a traveling carnival. 1555 01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:15,718 [music playing] 1556 01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,962 NARRATOR: For most of us, a night at the carnival 1557 01:19:26,062 --> 01:19:29,032 offers thrills, chills, and an old-fashioned good time. 1558 01:19:32,201 --> 01:19:35,238 But for Brenda Abbey, a 45-year-old mother of three 1559 01:19:35,338 --> 01:19:37,506 from Chester, Virginia, this frenzied 1560 01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:39,843 magic promises much more-- 1561 01:19:39,943 --> 01:19:45,381 the solution to her own personal, unsolved mystery. 1562 01:19:45,481 --> 01:19:47,583 Brenda was adopted as an infant. 1563 01:19:47,683 --> 01:19:49,986 She knows little about her biological parents, 1564 01:19:50,086 --> 01:19:52,555 except their names, and that they worked for the Setlin 1565 01:19:52,655 --> 01:19:57,360 and Wilson Traveling Carnival almost 50 years ago. 1566 01:19:57,460 --> 01:20:00,563 Every time I hear the news that there's a carnival, 1567 01:20:00,663 --> 01:20:02,265 I will go. 1568 01:20:02,365 --> 01:20:07,370 And I go up to every booth, every concession. 1569 01:20:07,470 --> 01:20:09,939 I go up to every person that's employed by that carnival. 1570 01:20:10,039 --> 01:20:13,609 And I look at them, just to see if I can find 1571 01:20:13,709 --> 01:20:16,779 somebody that looks like me. 1572 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,115 NARRATOR: In April of 1949, Brenda 1573 01:20:19,215 --> 01:20:24,253 was adopted by Sam and Thelma Zimmer of Petersburg, Virginia. 1574 01:20:24,353 --> 01:20:26,489 When she was 16, Brenda found out 1575 01:20:26,589 --> 01:20:28,557 that her birth parents had been with the Setlin 1576 01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:31,294 and Wilson carnival. 1577 01:20:31,394 --> 01:20:35,598 In 1983, Brenda developed a serious health problem. 1578 01:20:35,698 --> 01:20:38,567 Because of her acute need for a family medical history, 1579 01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:40,503 Virginia officials released a copy 1580 01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:44,007 of Brenda's birth certificate. 1581 01:20:44,107 --> 01:20:46,075 Her biological parents were Elizabeth 1582 01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:49,145 Hanson and Walter Dean Perry. 1583 01:20:49,245 --> 01:20:52,681 Brenda was stunned to learn she had two siblings. 1584 01:20:52,781 --> 01:20:55,151 But for Brenda's search, the most important clue was 1585 01:20:55,251 --> 01:20:58,187 her birth father's occupation. 1586 01:20:58,287 --> 01:21:01,857 My father was a representative of the Midget Review. 1587 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:06,495 Possibly, my father was a barker, 1588 01:21:06,595 --> 01:21:07,796 where he goes out there. 1589 01:21:07,897 --> 01:21:09,665 And he tries to get people to come here to see 1590 01:21:09,765 --> 01:21:11,935 the midgets and their show. 1591 01:21:12,035 --> 01:21:13,502 You're going to regret it tomorrow. 1592 01:21:13,602 --> 01:21:14,870 This show stars-- 1593 01:21:14,971 --> 01:21:17,873 NARRATOR: The pieces of the puzzle were falling into place. 1594 01:21:17,974 --> 01:21:19,542 Brenda set out to find everything 1595 01:21:19,642 --> 01:21:24,180 she could on the Setlin and Wilson Carnival. 1596 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,152 I looked in the newspapers back in 1948. 1597 01:21:29,252 --> 01:21:31,287 And I did come across the announcements 1598 01:21:31,387 --> 01:21:33,422 of Setlin and Wilson. 1599 01:21:33,522 --> 01:21:35,925 And I found a group of midgets that 1600 01:21:36,025 --> 01:21:38,594 were called Singers Midgets. 1601 01:21:38,694 --> 01:21:41,097 And I know the whole library heard me, because I said 1602 01:21:41,197 --> 01:21:42,365 I found them, I found them. 1603 01:21:45,935 --> 01:21:48,504 Finally, Brenda Abbey had a tangible clue. 1604 01:21:48,604 --> 01:21:51,440 And it led straight to the carnival circuit. 1605 01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:53,476 Last month, we joined Brenda in Virginia 1606 01:21:53,576 --> 01:21:56,179 to experience her search first hand, 1607 01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,514 the excitement of each promising lead, 1608 01:21:58,614 --> 01:22:02,585 and the heartache of near misses and dead ends. 1609 01:22:02,685 --> 01:22:07,390 How long have you been with the carnival? 1610 01:22:07,490 --> 01:22:10,559 NARRATOR: Brenda visits every carnival that passes within 200 1611 01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:12,761 miles of her home town. 1612 01:22:12,861 --> 01:22:14,263 Are they with the carnival? 1613 01:22:14,363 --> 01:22:15,931 No, nobody but me. 1614 01:22:16,032 --> 01:22:18,467 I'm the black sheep. 1615 01:22:18,567 --> 01:22:21,737 NARRATOR: Old-timers like Joe Stevenson, a 60-year veteran 1616 01:22:21,837 --> 01:22:23,872 of the carnival, offer rare glimpses 1617 01:22:23,973 --> 01:22:26,909 into a strange and exotic world. 1618 01:22:27,010 --> 01:22:30,079 Do you remember if this woman had been pregnant at the time? 1619 01:22:30,179 --> 01:22:35,284 We made up a language, just vowels switched around. 1620 01:22:35,384 --> 01:22:41,390 Like you got here, light liz light, keyazamera, camera, Joe, 1621 01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:43,126 Jee-zo. 1622 01:22:43,226 --> 01:22:46,762 I could say loozooki izat mezan. 1623 01:22:46,862 --> 01:22:48,031 You don't know what I'm speaking. 1624 01:22:48,131 --> 01:22:49,898 I said, look at that man. 1625 01:22:49,999 --> 01:22:52,568 We're speaking what is known as carny. 1626 01:22:52,668 --> 01:22:56,505 Well, I worked sometimes as the alligator girl. 1627 01:22:56,605 --> 01:23:00,043 I worked as the world's strangest mother. 1628 01:23:00,143 --> 01:23:04,080 And I had to go up on a stage, and talk to the public. 1629 01:23:04,180 --> 01:23:06,015 A lot of them had to live in wagons, 1630 01:23:06,115 --> 01:23:08,517 and underneath wagons, and things like that, 1631 01:23:08,617 --> 01:23:10,186 in the old days. 1632 01:23:10,286 --> 01:23:11,554 They don't do that today. 1633 01:23:11,654 --> 01:23:14,423 But they used to have to do it, because they 1634 01:23:14,523 --> 01:23:16,192 didn't make enough. 1635 01:23:16,292 --> 01:23:18,061 Hopefully, I'm going to ring a bell one 1636 01:23:18,161 --> 01:23:19,695 day with one of these people. 1637 01:23:19,795 --> 01:23:24,867 And they're going to know my parents, simply by what I tell 1638 01:23:24,967 --> 01:23:27,836 them about the Midget Review. 1639 01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:30,239 They might remember somebody. 1640 01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:31,674 But this is what I do. 1641 01:23:31,774 --> 01:23:35,111 I keep hoping that somebody in the carnival that's old enough 1642 01:23:35,211 --> 01:23:38,013 to remember will remember. 1643 01:23:38,114 --> 01:23:42,351 They're the original Singer Midgets, because he's Carl. 1644 01:23:42,451 --> 01:23:43,386 I remember him. 1645 01:23:43,486 --> 01:23:46,055 He was the tuba player in the band. 1646 01:23:46,155 --> 01:23:47,656 They had the smallest midget in the world. 1647 01:23:47,756 --> 01:23:48,557 What was her name? 1648 01:23:48,657 --> 01:23:50,025 Do you remember? 1649 01:23:50,126 --> 01:23:51,960 They never brought her out on the front. 1650 01:23:52,061 --> 01:23:52,995 You paid extra. 1651 01:23:53,096 --> 01:23:54,363 Yeah, she's right there. 1652 01:23:54,463 --> 01:23:55,764 That was Margie. 1653 01:23:55,864 --> 01:23:58,334 Margie, that's it. 1654 01:23:58,434 --> 01:24:01,937 This is the group I tell you about that had the cook. 1655 01:24:02,037 --> 01:24:04,740 And she remembered the lady's name like I do. 1656 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,075 But the only thing we know-- 1657 01:24:06,175 --> 01:24:07,810 NARRATOR: For a brief instant, Brenda 1658 01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:09,545 thought Joe and the others had actually 1659 01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:13,116 known her birth mother. 1660 01:24:13,216 --> 01:24:16,885 Was she 20, 24? Was she young? 1661 01:24:16,985 --> 01:24:19,555 She was a woman then, wasn't she? 1662 01:24:19,655 --> 01:24:20,823 She was old. 1663 01:24:20,923 --> 01:24:23,326 He doesn't feel that she could have been my mother, 1664 01:24:23,426 --> 01:24:24,693 because her age would have made her-- 1665 01:24:24,793 --> 01:24:27,763 he said, he was just joking, he said 2,000 years old by now. 1666 01:24:27,863 --> 01:24:29,532 So it definitely could not have have been mother. 1667 01:24:29,632 --> 01:24:32,601 My mother was supposedly 24 when she had me. 1668 01:24:35,604 --> 01:24:38,073 But Joe said that, quite possibly, 1669 01:24:38,174 --> 01:24:41,277 it might be Mama Li's daughter. 1670 01:24:41,377 --> 01:24:44,280 But there, again, who knows? 1671 01:24:44,380 --> 01:24:46,215 And that's another avenue I'll have to travel. 1672 01:24:49,218 --> 01:24:51,220 It was a Singer's-- MAN: Let me ask you first. 1673 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,755 What year were you born? 1674 01:24:52,855 --> 01:24:54,923 That would have been on the birth certificate. 1675 01:24:55,023 --> 01:24:58,427 OK, 1949. 1676 01:24:58,527 --> 01:25:01,164 NARRATOR: Brenda didn't cover one exciting lead-- 1677 01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:03,132 the phone number for a man named Ward 1678 01:25:03,232 --> 01:25:06,935 Hall, a prominent booking agent for east coast carnival side 1679 01:25:07,035 --> 01:25:08,337 shows. 1680 01:25:08,437 --> 01:25:12,708 We were there when Brenda called him. 1681 01:25:12,808 --> 01:25:16,779 Ward Hall knew carnival people going back some 50 years. 1682 01:25:16,879 --> 01:25:21,317 But he had never heard of Brenda's birth parents. 1683 01:25:21,417 --> 01:25:23,186 I really thought he was my answer. 1684 01:25:23,286 --> 01:25:24,253 I really did. 1685 01:25:24,353 --> 01:25:26,822 I had a lot of faith in that phone call. 1686 01:25:26,922 --> 01:25:29,425 And I'm a little disappointed. 1687 01:25:29,525 --> 01:25:31,126 I really am, not because he couldn't 1688 01:25:31,227 --> 01:25:33,462 give me the answer I wanted. 1689 01:25:33,562 --> 01:25:36,532 But just because he didn't have it. 1690 01:25:36,632 --> 01:25:41,337 We're going over to the Department of Social services 1691 01:25:41,437 --> 01:25:42,838 in Richmond. 1692 01:25:42,938 --> 01:25:49,412 And over there, they have identifying information. 1693 01:25:49,512 --> 01:25:51,614 NARRATOR: Just before we travel to Virginia, 1694 01:25:51,714 --> 01:25:53,782 a judge had granted Brenda access 1695 01:25:53,882 --> 01:25:57,420 to her sealed adoption papers. 1696 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,788 We were not allowed to film in the archives. 1697 01:25:59,888 --> 01:26:03,192 But our cameras were on hand when Brenda emerged. 1698 01:26:03,292 --> 01:26:05,928 The documents finally revealed where her birth parents 1699 01:26:06,028 --> 01:26:08,397 had gone after the adoption. 1700 01:26:08,497 --> 01:26:09,765 I got it. 1701 01:26:09,865 --> 01:26:10,666 Alaska. 1702 01:26:13,001 --> 01:26:14,837 And it's all the identifying information 1703 01:26:14,937 --> 01:26:16,372 filled in, everything. 1704 01:26:19,208 --> 01:26:20,376 And there's two different names. 1705 01:26:23,412 --> 01:26:25,047 I've got a WL Perry. 1706 01:26:25,147 --> 01:26:27,483 And then I have a WD Perry. 1707 01:26:27,583 --> 01:26:29,418 They say it could be a typographical error, 1708 01:26:29,518 --> 01:26:31,354 but maybe not. 1709 01:26:31,454 --> 01:26:32,521 They're just not sure. 1710 01:26:39,495 --> 01:26:41,264 NARRATOR: Despite the information in the adoption 1711 01:26:41,364 --> 01:26:44,467 records, it turns out that the Setlin and Wilson Carnival 1712 01:26:44,567 --> 01:26:48,437 never once traveled to Alaska, nor has Brenda 1713 01:26:48,537 --> 01:26:51,173 found any evidence that her biological parents 1714 01:26:51,274 --> 01:26:54,377 moved to Alaska on their own. 1715 01:26:54,477 --> 01:26:56,412 Perhaps the next carnival will yield 1716 01:26:56,512 --> 01:26:59,282 the clue that finally leads Brenda to her birth parents. 1717 01:27:02,418 --> 01:27:06,589 I want to find my parents and my siblings more 1718 01:27:06,689 --> 01:27:09,558 than anything in the world. 1719 01:27:09,658 --> 01:27:13,296 I want to tell my mother before she dies, 1720 01:27:13,396 --> 01:27:16,965 I don't think she did anything wrong. 1721 01:27:17,065 --> 01:27:20,035 I think she did what she had to do. 1722 01:27:20,135 --> 01:27:23,005 And I really can understand it. 1723 01:27:23,105 --> 01:27:24,773 I have a heart big enough to understand it. 1724 01:27:30,313 --> 01:27:31,847 NARRATOR: Update-- during a search 1725 01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:33,849 that spanned 30 years, Brenda talked 1726 01:27:33,949 --> 01:27:35,250 with countless old timers. 1727 01:27:38,954 --> 01:27:42,691 Each had a story to tell, and some even offered suggestions. 1728 01:27:42,791 --> 01:27:44,860 But not one claimed to know Elizabeth 1729 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,331 Hanson or Walter Perry. 1730 01:27:48,431 --> 01:27:51,334 Inevitably, as each carnival was packing up and hitting 1731 01:27:51,434 --> 01:27:54,770 the road, Brenda Abbey was left behind, no closer 1732 01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:58,006 to finding her birth parents. 1733 01:27:58,106 --> 01:28:00,809 It seemed she might finally be out of options 1734 01:28:00,909 --> 01:28:02,878 until the night of our broadcast. 1735 01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:11,086 The response was far greater than even Brenda had hoped for. 1736 01:28:11,186 --> 01:28:13,789 Not only did her birth mother called our phone center, 1737 01:28:13,889 --> 01:28:18,193 but so did a sister, and a brother, then another sister. 1738 01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:20,463 Additional calls were logged in from friends 1739 01:28:20,563 --> 01:28:21,764 of still more siblings. 1740 01:28:25,334 --> 01:28:27,169 Brenda Abbey was saddened to learn that her birth 1741 01:28:27,269 --> 01:28:29,705 father had died in 1959. 1742 01:28:29,805 --> 01:28:31,674 But she was thrilled to discover a total 1743 01:28:31,774 --> 01:28:34,142 of 11 brothers and sisters. 1744 01:28:34,242 --> 01:28:36,979 One of them, Martha Oak, of St. Clair Shores Michigan, 1745 01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:40,716 hosted a reunion in August of 1994. 1746 01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:43,652 Although Brenda's birth mother was unable to attend, 1747 01:28:43,752 --> 01:28:46,489 Brenda finally met four of her long lost brothers and sisters 1748 01:28:46,589 --> 01:28:47,756 face to face. 1749 01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:56,164 As hostess for the celebration, Martha was 1750 01:28:56,264 --> 01:28:58,033 the first to welcome Brenda. 1751 01:28:58,133 --> 01:29:00,803 Hi, Brenda. 1752 01:29:00,903 --> 01:29:03,105 How you doing? 1753 01:29:03,205 --> 01:29:05,408 NARRATOR: A brother, Thomas Chillag, 1754 01:29:05,508 --> 01:29:13,281 flew in from Louisiana, 1,000 miles away. 1755 01:29:13,382 --> 01:29:15,384 Another sister, Susan Donar, came 1756 01:29:15,484 --> 01:29:17,019 in from Port Clinton, Ohio. 1757 01:29:24,192 --> 01:29:26,194 Brenda's brother, Frank Smith, grew up 1758 01:29:26,294 --> 01:29:27,963 in Greenwood, Mississippi. 1759 01:29:28,063 --> 01:29:33,068 Like Brenda, he never imagined he had so many siblings. 1760 01:29:33,168 --> 01:29:37,873 I did my own search, and kept running into dead ends, 1761 01:29:37,973 --> 01:29:40,943 and finally gave up. 1762 01:29:41,043 --> 01:29:44,913 And when I found out about this, it was incredible. 1763 01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:45,981 It's amazing. 1764 01:29:46,081 --> 01:29:49,284 It's unbelievable, totally unbelievable. 1765 01:29:49,384 --> 01:29:51,520 It's funny to actually walk up to people, 1766 01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:57,159 and touch their skin, and know they're related. 1767 01:29:57,259 --> 01:29:59,361 NARRATOR: The get together in Michigan promises 1768 01:29:59,462 --> 01:30:01,163 to be just the first of many. 1769 01:30:06,168 --> 01:30:10,673 Plans are already underway for the next reunion. 1770 01:30:10,773 --> 01:30:12,140 These are my flesh and blood. 1771 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,809 And it's something nobody can take away from me. 1772 01:30:13,909 --> 01:30:15,243 That's right. 1773 01:30:15,343 --> 01:30:19,047 And it's such a great feeling. 1774 01:30:19,147 --> 01:30:23,652 It was worth the 30 years that it took me to do this. 1775 01:30:26,722 --> 01:30:30,058 [music playing] 1776 01:30:48,343 --> 01:30:50,813 In just a few weeks, an exciting new season 1777 01:30:50,913 --> 01:30:53,448 of "Unsolved Mysteries" will begin. 1778 01:30:53,549 --> 01:30:56,184 Here's a sampling. 1779 01:30:56,284 --> 01:30:59,622 In the late 1960s, thousands of curiosity seekers 1780 01:30:59,722 --> 01:31:01,957 flocked to see the Iceman. 1781 01:31:02,057 --> 01:31:07,462 Was it a hoax, or perhaps a prehistoric cousin of man? 1782 01:31:07,563 --> 01:31:10,699 Novelist Agatha Christie was a queen of mystery. 1783 01:31:10,799 --> 01:31:15,103 But how many of us know that in 1926 Agatha took center stage 1784 01:31:15,203 --> 01:31:18,574 in her own real life mystery? 1785 01:31:18,674 --> 01:31:24,312 21-year-old Tommy Burkett died in 1991, an apparent suicide. 1786 01:31:24,412 --> 01:31:27,550 Now, his parents have pieced together a shocking scenario 1787 01:31:27,650 --> 01:31:30,586 of murder and intrigue. 1788 01:31:30,686 --> 01:31:32,888 From the realm of the unexplained, 1789 01:31:32,988 --> 01:31:34,857 a bolt of lightning sends a young man 1790 01:31:34,957 --> 01:31:39,895 on an incredible journey to the brink of death and back. 1791 01:31:39,995 --> 01:31:42,565 And follow a team of real life ghostbusters, 1792 01:31:42,665 --> 01:31:45,400 as they track down an elusive spirit in a haunted 1793 01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:49,371 hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico. 1794 01:31:49,471 --> 01:31:51,807 Join me, starting later in September, 1795 01:31:51,907 --> 01:31:55,911 for four special Sunday broadcasts, and then in October 1796 01:31:56,011 --> 01:32:00,115 during our new time, Fridays at 8:00. 1797 01:32:00,215 --> 01:32:02,851 [music playing] 140427

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