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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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Tonight, join me for a
special two-hour edition
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of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Some
legends get better with time.
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Others become more
and more real.
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Many people believe
that the untamed forests
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of the Pacific Northwest
harbor a mysterious creature
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known as Bigfoot.
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Now, a team of
researchers, bolstered
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by credible eyewitness
accounts, set out to prove
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the fabled beast does exist.
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Since 1984, Bill
and Dorothy Wacker
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claim they have been targeted
in a vicious campaign
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of harassment--
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anonymous phone calls,
threatening notes, burglaries,
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and even violent assaults.
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In this most bizarre case,
everyone is suspect--
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even the Wackers themselves.
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Christine Reinhard needs your
help to find her husband.
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He disappeared from a Colorado
motel on August 31st, 1993.
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Two weeks later,
he was apparently
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spotted on an Amtrak train,
disheveled and disoriented.
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Christine is convinced that
he is suffering from amnesia,
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that he has no idea who
he is or where he lives.
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Are there angels here
on Earth watching over us?
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You'll see the compelling
accounts of the two women
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who came face to face with
death and miraculously survived.
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Join me for this
very special edition
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of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Mt.
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Hood, Oregon.
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April 19th, 1994.
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The peaceful beauty
of an alpine spring
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is shattered by a manhunt.
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[helicopter whirring]
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MAN: Copy contact team.
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I understand your
latest coordinates.
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We're closing in
on the fugitive.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 25
volunteers are on the ground.
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In the air is a
helicopter equipped
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with a sophisticated thermal
imaging system called FLIR--
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forward looking infrared.
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There's our target.
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27, [inaudible].
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Attention ground units.
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You're closing in
on the fugitive.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): But
this manhunt is different.
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It's a training exercise.
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Even the fugitive
is a volunteer--
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a stand-in, as it were, for
the elusive, legendary creature
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known as Bigfoot.
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Bigfoot, Yeti, Sasquatch--
no matter what this beast is
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called, many believe
that if he exists,
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he is a missing link
between ape and human.
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MAN: Attention ground units,
I see fugitives at 45, 39--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The training exercise
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was sponsored by an
Oregon-based group,
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the Bigfoot Research Project.
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Peter Byrne, noted adventurer
and world explorer,
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heads the project.
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PETER BYRNE: We don't
want to capture it,
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we don't want to shoot it.
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The ultimate find,
you know, as far
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as we're concerned
would be to do something
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like what Jane Goodall did.
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In other words, to find one, see
if we can communicate, have it
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lead us to others, and then
bring in the right people,
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totally responsible people.
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Bring in scientists, and
show them what we found,
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and, um, document the
whole thing, of course.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Attempts to document Bigfoot
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have so far been sketchy.
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There are several
crude home movies
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and videos purporting to show
the creature in the wild.
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And there are dozens of plaster
casts and photographs showing
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large, humanoid footprints.
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Yet for every person who
believes Bigfoot exists,
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you'll find at least two
who say that the films
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and the footprints alike
are merely the handiwork
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of pranksters in fur suits.
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Is Bigfoot real or an
elaborate, ongoing hoax?
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Well, even hoaxes are
usually based on something.
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Through the years,
eyewitness accounts
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have consistently described
a very human-like animal.
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He walks upright with
an almost comical gait
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and steers clear of
people, unless they
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happen to invade his turf.
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But even those who claim
they've run across Bigfoot
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say he's a harmless, if
somewhat scary-looking, giant.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Todd Neiss is a sergeant
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in the Army National Guard.
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Once a month, he returns to
the Oregon Coastal Range,
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where he had an unusual
sighting on [inaudible] in 1993.
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TODD NEISS: Across the
ravine, I could distinctly
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see three large, black figures.
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I would estimate the
largest one to be
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between eight and nine feet.
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The two that flanked it
were a full head shorter.
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But I tried to think if they
were bear, or if they were elk.
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And then when I saw them
shuffling back and forth,
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I could very plainly see they
were upright on two legs.
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And during that entire
time, they were--
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all three of them were
standing on two legs.
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I don't think I would have
ever told this to anybody
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had something very
unusual not happened.
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I was approached by another
sergeant, who had walked up
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to me and said, Sir Neiss,
did you see what I saw down
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at that second rock quarry?
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And not to be made a fool,
I said, well, I don't know.
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What did you see?
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He followed with, well,
for lack of a better
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word, what I saw were three
large, hair-covered Bigfeet."
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One of our theories is
that they are nocturnal,
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and that when they're
seen in the daytime,
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it's a result of
disturbance of some kind.
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In this-- in this case,
there was a National
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Guard exercise with explosions.
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And immediately
after the explosion,
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three of these things were seen.
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They were seen by him,
seen by another man.
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And he gave us a description
and, um, a very credible story.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): One month
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after Todd Neiss'
sighting, two women
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were driving on a
remote country road
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100 miles away when they
had a much closer encounter.
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The driver agreed to speak
with us in silhouette.
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We had just come
around a bend in the road
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when I saw movement,
and I slowed
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down for the
anticipation of something
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crossing in front of me.
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And that's when it stood up
and moved across the road
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without once looking
at us, and disappeared.
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We couldn't make any
sense of what we saw.
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It was very close to a
human, but yet it wasn't.
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There was no visible signs of--
of clothing, shoes, jacket,
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hat.
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There was no neck.
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The arms were very long and
swinging with the movement.
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We had the opportunity
of interviewing
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both of the ladies, and we
found the story very credible.
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We saw some signs where
something had crossed the road,
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and, um, about 300
yards into the forest,
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there was a dead steer.
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And a few footprints that we
saw-- they were very faint--
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were going directly
towards that dead steer,
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possibly with the
intention of eating it.
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ELMER FROMBACH: So
do you guys want
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to come along with me up there?
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MAN: [inaudible]
You go on ahead.
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ELMER FROMBACH: OK.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Perhaps the most amazing
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Bigfoot sighting in recent years
occurred when Elmer Frombach
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of Seattle, Washington took
his family on an outing
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near the Canadian border.
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Elmer, an electrician
and part-time prospector,
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set off to stake a claim nearby.
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ELMER FROMBACH: I had,
uh, 4x4 cedar posts that I
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was using to mark the claim.
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And, of course, I had
all of the normal things,
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like surveyor's
ribbon, and a compass,
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and different items which
would be used to lay
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out the claim boundaries.
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As I traveled into
the upper areas,
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I was now at about 1,500 feet.
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And I noticed that the
trails in this area
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were somewhat isolated,
with trees being snapped off
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and laid over the trail in
certain spots, which looked
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as though they
were strategically
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placed to block the trail off.
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So I laid the cedar
post down on the ground
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and went up the hillside,
uh, to where I could walk
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on the trails easily again.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Elmer had just
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started to take a few more
samples when he suddenly
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realized he was not alone.
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[hammering]
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[distant pounding]
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[pounding continues]
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As I walked
around the hillside,
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the pounding seemed to cease
for a short period of time,
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and then it resumed again.
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And I thought,
maybe the boys are
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up here playing a trick on me.
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[pounding]
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All right, you guys.
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It isn't funny.
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[pounding continues]
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Hey!
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You on the hill!
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[rustling]
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I thought at first I had
triggered an avalanche
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of some type, until I saw
a big, black, hairy mass
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right behind all of
those rocks and twigs.
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And then I began to wonder, is
this a bear that I'm seeing,
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or is it something else?
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And at that time, I kept
thinking in my mind,
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I've got to find
a way to scare it.
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And I fired a shot
above its head,
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and it turned just
slightly and then
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proceeded to walk down the trail
as though I wasn't even there.
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And as it walked
away from me, it
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took perfect, human-like
strides down the trail,
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only like a giant man.
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At that point in time, I thought
the thing was probably gone.
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But this thing had crouched
down at the end of the trail,
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and it picked up a rock
the size of a basketball
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and was using it to bang
against the other rocks.
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It again, made a slight sideways
turn, just enough to see me out
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of the corner of its eye.
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I was scared, and I wanted
to get out of there.
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I kept running
down the hillside,
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and the thing was in hot
pursuit the whole way.
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I was absolutely terrified.
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And I had a hard
time figuring out
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how that thing could
cover so much area,
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or if there were actually
more than one of them.
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I've never been more
scared in my life.
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The creature could have
very easily have caught
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me if it would have wanted to.
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Why it didn't is
still a mystery to me.
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I still can't understand, with
something that would move that
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fast, cover that much
territory, why it had
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such a hard time locating me.
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I don't think it was a chase.
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I think-- possibly, it was what
we call a demonstration charge,
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if it truly was a
Bigfoot that he saw.
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And it was simply saying to
him, get out of here, you know.
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This is my territory.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Accounts
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like Elmer Frombach's are
invaluable to the Bigfoot
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Research Project.
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The project correlates
all eyewitness data
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in an attempt to
predict where and when
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a Bigfoot will show up next.
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Based on this data,
special infrared cameras
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are set up in hopes
of photographing
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the elusive beast.
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But even credible
photographs might not
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convince the skeptics.
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Noted anthropologist
Daris Swindler
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wants to see tangible proof.
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And I'm amazed that
through all the years,
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the various people that
have been hunting Sasquatch
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through the years
have not really
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found any what we call
bone or dental evidence
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of the creature.
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That, to me, would
be very satisfying.
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You can talk to people
who lived out here 50 years,
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never found a dead bear,
never found a dead cougar--
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a dead deer, maybe.
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But when something dies, it's
eaten, just as in East Africa.
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When a eight-ton elephant
dies, in 72 hours,
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it completely disappears.
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This is nature's way.
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I would still like to see some
what we call teeth and bones.
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I would think it would be
only logical to suspect this--
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that we might-- by this
time, would have found
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some more concrete evidence
of their existence.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Does a lost species
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roam the Pacific Northwest?
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If so, there are a lot of
people who are very interested.
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Some, like Peter Byrne, want
to find a Bigfoot alive.
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Others want a specimen
dead or alive.
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The eyewitnesses
we interviewed hope
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that the scientific
community takes
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notice before it's too late.
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It's not just to
validate what I saw,
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but I think it's important
if these creatures are still
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out there, that they need
to be protected in some way,
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that they need to be
understood and studied.
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[footsteps]
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There was no aggression
at all in the animal.
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And I believe that
it is up to us
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to protect it, learn all we can
about it and leave it alone.
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[pounding]
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What I saw there was a
living creature and not
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some figment of my imagination.
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Modern science hasn't absolutely
proven by a dead object
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that this thing
exists, but I tell you,
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quite frankly, I've seen one.
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I know it exists.
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And there is no
doubt in my mind.
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[music playing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, a determined
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wife crisscrosses the country in
search of her missing husband.
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Perhaps you can help.
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[music playing]
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Imagine that you are a
woman whose husband has
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gone away on a business trip.
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You speak to him
the night before he
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is due to come back
home, and you never
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see or hear from him again.
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What are your choices?
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Do you sit at home waiting
for police in distant cities
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to call you back, or do you
try to do something yourself?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Christine Reinhard
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of Clintonville,
Wisconsin did something.
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Today, Christine's
search for her husband
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has become an
all-consuming quest.
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CHRISTINE REINHARD: Hello.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Uh, my name's Christine,
and I'm out here
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searching for my
husband, who's been
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missing for quite some time.
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His name is Craig Williamson.
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I've reason to believe that
he's suffering from amnesia
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and may have been on
this interstate corridor
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and perhaps caught a
ride with a trucker.
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And I'd like to put
this up in your window,
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if that's possible, and--
- That'd be fine.
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--someone might see it.
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Sure.
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Oh, I-- I really
appreciate that.
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Thank you very much.
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All right.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Christine's quest
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began on September 14th, 1993
in Colorado Springs, Colorado,
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at the motel where Craig
Williamson was last seen.
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HOTEL STAFF: OK, Ms. Reinhard.
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This is where your husband
stayed, in room 112.
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[keys jangling]
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This is the washroom here.
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All this stuff was in here, and
he had a book here on the sink.
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OK, this is the
room he stayed in.
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Over there on the
chair was his luggage.
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It was unpacked and opened.
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The bed was made.
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It looked like it
was not slept in.
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Had there been any, um--
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like, signs of
struggle in the room?
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HOTEL STAFF: No sign
of struggle at all.
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It looked like, uh, someone
just left and walked out.
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[music playing]
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MINISTER: It is now my pleasure
as an ordained minister,
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and by the power invested in
me by the state of Nevada.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Craig Williamson was nearly 46
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and Christine Reinhard, 41,
when they married at Lake Tahoe.
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It was a second
marriage for both.
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MINISTER: --and wife.
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Craig, you may kiss your wife.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Craig and Christine
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had known each other
for only a month,
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but it was definitely
a love match.
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Christine still speaks of their
marriage in the present tense.
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CHRISTINE REINHARD: Being
married to Craig is--
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it may be a cliche to say
it's like a honeymoon,
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but it really is, because
he's the most sincere, caring,
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loving person.
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I think the thing about
Craig that is most endearing
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is his caring and nurturing
attitude toward me.
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He's just wonderfully
supportive and very loving.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Craig and Christine
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bought a farm in Wisconsin,
Christine's home state,
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and undertook an
immediate renovation.
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They added onto the barn,
installed large tanks,
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and began to raise
an exotic and tasty
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African fish called tilapia.
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CHRISTINE REINHARD:
[inaudible] oxygen today, dear?
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CRAIG WILLIAMSON: Yep.
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CHRISTINE REINHARD: Any reason?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Craig
specially rigged an old school
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bus to transport the fish.
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On August 28th, 1993, Craig
Williamson loaded up and set
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off for Colorado, even though
he was still experiencing
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headaches and blurred
vision due to a concussion
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he had suffered
four weeks earlier.
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If I tried to rub his
head, he said, honey,
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don't do that, it hurts.
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And so I know he was
still suffering from it,
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because he would still--
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I'd say, do you have a headache?
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And he'd say yes, you know,
but he wouldn't admit it.
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But I'd catch him taking
aspirin all the time.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In Colorado Springs,
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Craig rented a car to use
for business appointments.
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At 9PM on August 30th, the night
before he was to return home,
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he and Christine spoke
for the last time.
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Craig was 1,000 miles away
from the farm in Wisconsin
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when he disappeared
in Colorado Springs.
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The next day, his credit cards
were discovered at a market
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in El Paso, Texas,
675 miles south.
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Two weeks later,
in Juarez, Mexico,
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just across the
border from El Paso,
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Craig's rental car
was found abandoned.
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Once again, there were
no signs of foul play.
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Detective Robert Johnson headed
the investigation in Colorado.
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This is the area where we
found the bus still parked--
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OK.
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--when we came out
the day of the search.
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Uh-huh.
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And what I wanted to show
you is some of the things
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that we found.
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When we got here, the bus that
Craig had driven down here
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was still parked kind
of along this line here,
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about three or four
feet from the dumpster.
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CHRISTINE REINHARD: OK.
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I truly believe that Craig
walked up to his rental car
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and that someone came up behind
him and hit him on the head.
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And this is completely
in keeping in character
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with Craig, is that he'd
get up and wouldn't go in
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and say, I'm hurt, help me.
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He'd think, I have to
get on with things.
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I, you know, I have
to be doing something.
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I'm supposed to go somewhere.
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I have to get back.
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And he would wander toward the
bright lights of the parking
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lot and then the interchange.
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And he wandered off from there.
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TV ANNOUNCER: Over
the past week,
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Williamson's wife Christine--
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Television
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stations in Wisconsin
and Colorado
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covered Christine's story.
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Within days, a retired nurse
from Montana came forward.
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When I saw him on TV,
you know, I recognized him.
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And I said, that man was
on the train that I was on.
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And my son said, are
you sure about that?
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I said, yeah, I recognize him.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Judy Inman
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believes she saw
Craig Williamson
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looking dazed and disheveled
two weeks after he disappeared.
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Judy was on a train
traveling from Montana
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through Washington
state, where Craig
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and Christine had first met.
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JUDY INMAN: When he
first got on the train,
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these two drunks-- they
just kept harassing him.
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[drunken rambling]
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JUDY INMAN: I was just wishing
they'd all three shut up,
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you know, so we
could get some sleep.
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00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:35,762
[loud talking]
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JUDY INMAN: But when
he walked up the aisle,
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he didn't say anything.
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But there was something
that he wanted.
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I've got to get
back to the fish.
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He kept talking about this
fish that he had to go pick up.
448
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And, uh, he was talking
about this big building
449
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that had these big,
huge tanks in it,
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where they kept the fish.
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How are you going
to catch this fish?
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JUDY INMAN: These
two drunk guys asked
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him, well, where do you have
to go to catch that fish,
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you know.
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He said, well, you wouldn't find
a fish like that around here.
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He said, in fact, you
wouldn't find a fish
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like that in the United States.
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00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:25,578
Hey!
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My jacket.
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CRAIG WILLIAMSON: Oh.
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Oh.
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I've got to get
back to the fish.
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JUDY INMAN: That man definitely
had something wrong with him.
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He was absolutely not drunk.
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And I knew he was not
mentally retarded.
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There's a difference
between someone
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that's mentally retarded
and someone that's drunk
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and someone that
has a head injury.
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And I knew that he definitely
had some type of a head injury,
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because I've taken care
of patients like that.
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I knew that that was Craig.
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I knew it!
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And the fact that
it was on Amtrak,
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and it was heading toward the
Pacific Northwest, I mean,
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I knew that that was Craig.
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There was no way anyone could
make up the type of things
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00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:23,402
that Judy Inman said
Craig was talking about.
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I packed up everything that
I would need, packed up
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a suitcase for Craig in the
outside chance I would find
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him, and went to look for him.
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NARRATOR: Christine set
off on a six-week odyssey,
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paralleling Judy Inman's train
route from Whitefish, Montana
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to Portland, Oregon.
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She photographed every
train station along the way.
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On December 26, 1993, Christine
met Judy Inman in person
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for the first time, and
showed her the photographs.
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This is another one
of the train yard.
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There's really nothing
much around there.
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It's pretty empty.
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Then there's this one.
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That's it there.
492
00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:04,443
You think this is the one?
493
00:24:04,544 --> 00:24:05,878
That's the one he got off.
494
00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:07,379
Because it was
a small building?
495
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,881
Yeah, it was small.
496
00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:10,382
And it was this color.
497
00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:13,686
This is the one
where he got off.
498
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,888
NARRATOR: Judy had identified
Wishram, Washington,
499
00:24:15,988 --> 00:24:17,990
near the Oregon border.
500
00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:19,492
Christine believes
Craig might have
501
00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:22,461
mistaken Wishram for
Washougal, a town where
502
00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:25,064
he had lived in the 1980s.
503
00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:27,834
Craig's son plastered
the area with his poster,
504
00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:29,235
but no new clues surfaced.
505
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,409
It was absolutely
terrible to drive
506
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:42,615
back here after looking
for Craig for the six weeks
507
00:24:42,715 --> 00:24:43,950
that I did.
508
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:48,120
This place was so
cold and empty.
509
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:54,326
And everywhere I look,
things remind me of Craig
510
00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:55,227
all the time.
511
00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:03,736
NARRATOR: Today, Christine
Reinhardt has no choice
512
00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:07,139
but to sit at home and wait.
513
00:25:07,239 --> 00:25:08,808
The farm is closed.
514
00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:10,643
The fish tanks are empty.
515
00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:15,447
But Christine will never
abandoned her quest.
516
00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:16,816
I can't give up.
517
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:18,718
I will never give up.
518
00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:26,258
I will just constantly look for
him until I die, or he's found.
519
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:27,293
Those are the only two options.
520
00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:31,764
I know he's alive.
521
00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,100
And I know someday
I'll find him.
522
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,968
The trouble is I
don't know when.
523
00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:38,070
And I just have to
keep hanging on.
524
00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:40,139
The hardest part is hanging on.
525
00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:46,278
NARRATOR: Craig Williamson is
49 years old, 5 feet 10 inches
526
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,981
tall, and weighs 190 pounds.
527
00:25:49,081 --> 00:25:51,918
He has gray hair and blue eyes.
528
00:25:52,018 --> 00:25:54,687
This is television
footage shot in Wisconsin
529
00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:57,957
in February of 1993.
530
00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,459
Some of these will be filleted
out in our processing plant.
531
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:03,830
Some will be delivered to the
east coast as live, whole fish
532
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:06,265
to the oriental market.
533
00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,234
[music playing]
534
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,154
NARRATOR: When we
return, a fugitive
535
00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:30,623
is captured thanks
to your calls,
536
00:26:30,723 --> 00:26:34,093
and the bizarre case of a
couple targeted for terror
537
00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:35,728
by an unknown assailant.
538
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,664
[music playing]
539
00:26:45,571 --> 00:26:47,707
NARRATOR: This is
36-year-old David Vieira.
540
00:26:47,807 --> 00:26:51,010
He is charged with the
murder of his wife.
541
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:54,180
On April 16th, 1994,
Viera was arrested
542
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,416
in Montreal, Canada,
the 108th fugitive
543
00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:59,786
captured thanks to your calls.
544
00:26:59,886 --> 00:27:01,688
His long, troubling
odyssey began
545
00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:04,857
some 20 years ago on a small
island in the Atlantic Ocean.
546
00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:10,496
David Viera grew
up on St. Michael,
547
00:27:10,596 --> 00:27:12,732
one of a group of
island's west of Portugal
548
00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:13,666
known as the Azores.
549
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:19,138
It was there in 1974
that Viera married
550
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,540
his 17-year-old cousin
Alice, who lived
551
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,878
in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
552
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:28,781
David and Alive eventually
settled in New Bedford.
553
00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:30,449
Within a year,
Alice was pregnant.
554
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:34,653
Their marriage
went off pretty good,
555
00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:37,423
like maybe I'd say about
the first couple of months.
556
00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:40,292
And then already, he was
already starting with her.
557
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:42,461
You know, she
couldn't wear make up.
558
00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,863
She couldn't do anything.
559
00:27:43,963 --> 00:27:47,266
You know, he was very jealous,
very possessive of my sister.
560
00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:50,937
NARRATOR: By 1981, Alice and
David had three children.
561
00:27:51,037 --> 00:27:54,406
As the years went by, David
reportedly became abusive,
562
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:55,407
to the point of violence.
563
00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:01,781
David used to always
say, there's no other woman
564
00:28:01,881 --> 00:28:04,550
in my life like you are.
565
00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,018
And he always had
threatened her that if she
566
00:28:06,118 --> 00:28:07,754
ever decided to leave
him for anybody,
567
00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:08,921
that he would kill her.
568
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:13,993
But we never took it
seriously, you know?
569
00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:15,728
NARRATOR: Alice and
David finally separated
570
00:28:15,828 --> 00:28:17,797
in the summer of 1988.
571
00:28:17,897 --> 00:28:19,631
Alice enrolled in
nursing school,
572
00:28:19,732 --> 00:28:21,267
and began to see another man.
573
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,736
But David Viera
would not let her go.
574
00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,308
He allegedly began to
stalk Alice at work
575
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:31,377
and at home, night and day.
576
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,984
On July 25th, 1988, Alice was
at home with her boyfriend,
577
00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:39,618
when David apparently snapped.
578
00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,293
By the time police
arrived at the scene,
579
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:50,729
Alice was dead bludgeoned
and stabbed 24 four
580
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:54,166
times with a butcher knife.
581
00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:55,902
David Viera had vanished.
582
00:28:56,002 --> 00:28:57,636
And for nearly six
years, he could not
583
00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:03,042
be found, until the
night of our broadcast.
584
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,244
Our particular
segment on that show
585
00:29:05,344 --> 00:29:08,747
aired our time here in
New Bedford, Massachusetts
586
00:29:08,848 --> 00:29:12,184
at approximately 8:50 PM.
587
00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:16,455
By 9:03 PM, I was receiving
telephone calls from Canada
588
00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:19,591
right here into my office
with very good leads
589
00:29:19,691 --> 00:29:21,660
as to his whereabouts.
590
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,662
The first phone call that I
received saying that they knew
591
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:27,366
where he was, I just jumped up
with joy, and told my husband,
592
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:28,567
I think we got him, you know?
593
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:29,701
And I couldn't believe it.
594
00:29:29,802 --> 00:29:31,003
It took less than 48 hours.
595
00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:36,308
NARRATOR: Viera had
lived in Montreal
596
00:29:36,408 --> 00:29:38,177
for at least two years,
and was well known
597
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,279
in the Portuguese community.
598
00:29:40,379 --> 00:29:42,281
He belonged to a
neighborhood soccer team
599
00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,917
and was employed at
a local fish market.
600
00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:50,422
Viera's coworkers were stunned
to learn about his secret past.
601
00:29:50,522 --> 00:29:51,623
I don't believe the guy do it.
602
00:29:51,723 --> 00:29:55,928
I don't believe it,
because the guy is so nice.
603
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,629
We do, because
we see the picture.
604
00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:01,100
If you don't see the picture
is exactly the man, if we
605
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,035
don't see, we never trust.
606
00:30:05,872 --> 00:30:08,074
I've seen him apprehended,
and with handcuffs.
607
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:11,110
And to me, that was a sign of
saying, thank God, I can rest.
608
00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:15,314
And my sister can also be at
peace now that he's caught.
609
00:30:15,414 --> 00:30:17,783
[music playing]
610
00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:41,908
NARRATOR: Dorothy
and Bill Wacker
611
00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,077
lived in a small town in Ohio
for most of their 48 years
612
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:46,012
together.
613
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:48,447
What time is
Kathy coming over?
614
00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,918
About 6:00 o'clock.
615
00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:54,320
NARRATOR: The Wackers are
quiet, unassuming people, who
616
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,157
tend to mind their own business,
hardly the time to draw
617
00:30:58,257 --> 00:31:02,128
the wrath of an unseen enemy.
618
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:03,963
Oh my, not again.
619
00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:07,934
All right, that's it.
620
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:08,834
I've had enough.
621
00:31:08,935 --> 00:31:11,904
I'm calling the Sheriff.
622
00:31:12,004 --> 00:31:16,475
NARRATOR: On January 16th, 1985,
the Wackers home was ransacked.
623
00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:19,378
It was a third incident
in a campaign of terror
624
00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:23,549
that began in 1984, and
continues unabated to this day.
625
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,957
After nearly 10 years, Dorothy
and Bill Wacker still wonder,
626
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,458
who and why?
627
00:31:35,261 --> 00:31:37,329
Well, as far as
all this harassment
628
00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:39,598
is going on, which to
me it looks like it's
629
00:31:39,698 --> 00:31:42,701
trying to force us to move.
630
00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:43,802
Why should I move?
631
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:44,937
Why should we move?
632
00:31:45,037 --> 00:31:48,774
Why should we be
forced out by a kook?
633
00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:50,276
To me, that's what
it is, is a kook.
634
00:31:53,712 --> 00:31:55,247
I'll not do it.
635
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:58,050
I'll stay there, and
protect our home.
636
00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:59,485
[knocking]
637
00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:04,590
NARRATOR: July of
1985, after six months
638
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,293
of peace, another incident.
639
00:32:07,393 --> 00:32:12,398
Dorothy was home by herself
recovering from heart surgery.
640
00:32:12,498 --> 00:32:13,465
Yeah?
641
00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:15,201
I'm really sorry
to bother you, ma'am.
642
00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:16,402
My car broke down.
643
00:32:16,502 --> 00:32:17,803
And I was just wondering
if I could use your phone.
644
00:32:17,903 --> 00:32:18,770
Where's your car?
645
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:20,239
Oh, it's just down
the street here.
646
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:23,109
I would really appreciate.
647
00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:24,743
OK, I guess
it'll be all right.
648
00:32:24,843 --> 00:32:25,711
Come on in.
649
00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:26,845
Anybody come to
the door, we didn't
650
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:27,746
believe the worst of them.
651
00:32:27,846 --> 00:32:29,815
So we did what we had to do.
652
00:32:29,915 --> 00:32:32,051
If they wanted help or
anything, we always helped them.
653
00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:32,951
Right here.
654
00:32:33,052 --> 00:32:33,952
Nice place out here.
655
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,155
You need me I'll
be in the kitchen.
656
00:32:36,255 --> 00:32:37,056
Thanks a lot.
657
00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:39,491
I really appreciate it.
658
00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:41,527
He was very polite.
659
00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:44,663
So I had no qualms
about leaving him in.
660
00:32:44,763 --> 00:32:47,866
I need to get a tow truck.
661
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:51,503
Right, right on South Ferry.
662
00:32:51,603 --> 00:32:52,804
He was talking on the phone.
663
00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:55,074
But like I say, I didn't
pay no attention to him.
664
00:32:55,174 --> 00:32:56,808
I don't listen to
people's conversations
665
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:58,010
when they use the phone.
666
00:33:02,448 --> 00:33:03,882
And he said, thanks very much.
667
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:06,418
And that's the reason
I thought he'd left.
668
00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:07,419
You're welcome.
669
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:29,508
The next thing I remember, I
woke up on the floor tied up.
670
00:33:29,608 --> 00:33:30,442
And hit me in the head.
671
00:33:30,542 --> 00:33:31,910
And he hit me alongside the jaw.
672
00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:39,085
And, finally, I got over
towards the kitchen window.
673
00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:40,386
And it was open.
674
00:33:40,486 --> 00:33:42,488
And I got the neighbors
to hear me over there.
675
00:33:42,588 --> 00:33:43,389
And they come over.
676
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,295
NARRATOR: Bill
returned home to find
677
00:33:49,395 --> 00:33:52,498
his house swarming with police.
678
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:55,234
Fortunately, Dorothy was
not seriously injured.
679
00:33:55,334 --> 00:33:57,469
She's all right.
680
00:33:57,569 --> 00:34:00,072
NARRATOR: Bill did discover
some personal possessions were
681
00:34:00,172 --> 00:34:01,407
missing--
682
00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:05,877
a .22 caliber revolver, an
antique watch, a movie camera,
683
00:34:05,977 --> 00:34:08,547
and a radio scanner.
684
00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:10,349
In the dining
room, the assailant
685
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:12,951
had left a cryptic message
scrawled in crayon.
686
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:20,025
The words were
cheaper, but will do.
687
00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:21,427
There's no connotation.
688
00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:28,134
There's no rationale behind that
message that we can understand.
689
00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:30,636
NARRATOR: This sketch drawn
from Dorothy's description
690
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,372
was widely distributed
after the attack.
691
00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:35,241
The suspect never surfaced.
692
00:34:35,341 --> 00:34:37,976
But inexplicably, most of the
Wacker's missing possessions
693
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:38,877
did.
694
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:48,254
Bill says that about four months
after Dorothy was assaulted,
695
00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:50,356
the revolver turned
up on the front porch.
696
00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:58,730
One by one, the other
items also reappeared.
697
00:34:58,830 --> 00:34:59,965
I couldn't figure it out.
698
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,501
I still can't figure it out,
why it was brought back.
699
00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:06,004
If somebody was steal
something, normally
700
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:07,439
if they don't have
any use for it,
701
00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,509
they're going to sell
it to somebody else.
702
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:13,712
And it just looked like
this stuff was laid around
703
00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:16,215
till it was brought back.
704
00:35:16,315 --> 00:35:19,418
This is extremely
unusual, if not very rare.
705
00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:21,587
In all my years in
law enforcement,
706
00:35:21,687 --> 00:35:22,888
I have never known
of a gun being
707
00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:24,556
returned after it was stolen.
708
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,962
NARRATOR: Meanwhile, the
unseen tormentor had launched
709
00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:32,964
a new pattern of harassment.
710
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:34,566
Hello?
711
00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:36,468
Sometimes, he
wouldn't say anything.
712
00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,937
He'd just breathe real deep.
713
00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:40,606
And then the next
time, why, he says,
714
00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:43,242
I'll knock you in the
head, and lay you out.
715
00:35:43,342 --> 00:35:46,978
And I'll do this to
you, and do that to you.
716
00:35:47,078 --> 00:35:48,814
I was angry.
And I was scared.
717
00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:55,086
They've changed her
telephone number several times.
718
00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,389
And whoever this
is that's harassing
719
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,124
them has come up
with the number.
720
00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:00,726
How they found it,
I have no idea.
721
00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:06,465
NARRATOR: According
to Bill and Dorothy,
722
00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,300
the phone calls never let up.
723
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,638
And the mysterious assailant
soon escalated his campaign.
724
00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:13,805
I would be sitting
there watching
725
00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:15,341
TV, or reading, or whatever.
726
00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:18,277
And always after dark.
727
00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:20,479
And on the driveway
side of the house
728
00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:22,147
is where it first started.
729
00:36:22,248 --> 00:36:24,916
They would bang five,
six times real hard.
730
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,785
[banging]
731
00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:27,786
What's that?
732
00:36:27,886 --> 00:36:28,854
I don't know.
733
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:30,789
But I'm darn sure
going to find out.
734
00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:31,690
Bill.
735
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:32,758
I've had it!
736
00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:36,061
I don't want you
going out there, Bill.
737
00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:42,067
I'd rush outside, never see
a thing, never hear a thing,
738
00:36:42,167 --> 00:36:47,072
never hear a car, never
hear a noise whatsoever.
739
00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,581
We got to the point that
we figured that we needed
740
00:36:55,681 --> 00:36:58,049
some kind of security
light outside
741
00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:01,186
in the front, which we put up.
742
00:37:05,424 --> 00:37:11,029
It wasn't too long after that we
had a note on the front porch.
743
00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:12,864
It says, your
lights are a laugh.
744
00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:19,070
NARRATOR: Periodically,
other notes have shown
745
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:22,107
up on the Wacker's front porch.
746
00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:27,779
Some are crudely threatening,
others simply mocking.
747
00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:29,648
It was a disturbing onslaught.
748
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:32,250
But at least the Wackers
had tangible evidence
749
00:37:32,351 --> 00:37:34,152
to present to the authorities.
750
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,558
It would appear that the
person that wrote these notes
751
00:37:39,658 --> 00:37:41,560
may have been using the
opposite here from what they're
752
00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,795
normally used to writing with.
753
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:47,366
Whoever printed them
went to some pains
754
00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:49,335
to try to conceal their
normal handwriting
755
00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:53,238
or printing techniques.
756
00:37:53,339 --> 00:37:55,641
To date, we have found
no latent fingerprints
757
00:37:55,741 --> 00:37:57,409
or any other form of
material on the evidence
758
00:37:57,509 --> 00:37:58,510
that's been submitted.
759
00:38:02,748 --> 00:38:05,250
NARRATOR: With the
investigation stalled,
760
00:38:05,351 --> 00:38:07,453
Dorothy and Bill were
seemingly at the mercy
761
00:38:07,553 --> 00:38:10,322
of their unknown enemy.
762
00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:26,104
He struck again on
October 27, 1993.
763
00:38:26,204 --> 00:38:28,206
This time, Dorothy was
raced to the hospital
764
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,141
with skull lacerations.
765
00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,678
Desperate for a witness,
police once again
766
00:38:32,778 --> 00:38:34,245
canvassed the neighborhood.
767
00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:36,348
Have you had anybody around
your residence crawling
768
00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:37,916
around your resident,
looking in the windows
769
00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:39,250
the last few months, sir?
770
00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:41,687
No.
771
00:38:41,787 --> 00:38:43,321
Do you have any idea
who may be crawling
772
00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:44,556
around the Wacker residence?
773
00:38:44,656 --> 00:38:46,124
We've interviewed
the neighbor's
774
00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:47,826
on numerous occasions.
775
00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,027
And none of the
neighbors have yet
776
00:38:49,127 --> 00:38:51,830
been able to provide
us with any information
777
00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:55,200
which would lead us to believe
that there was a person there.
778
00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:00,238
Nobody has ever seen a body,
which is very frustrating to us
779
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:01,139
in our efforts.
780
00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:07,779
NARRATOR: With no
suspects and no clues,
781
00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,948
the lead detective
presented Dorothy
782
00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:13,118
with an unthinkable scenario.
783
00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:15,587
He says I'm going to
ask you a question.
784
00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,089
But he said, I don't want
you to take it the wrong way.
785
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:20,759
He says, do you think your
husband could have done this?
786
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:23,194
And I said, no way.
787
00:39:23,294 --> 00:39:26,898
I said, he wouldn't do
something like that.
788
00:39:26,998 --> 00:39:31,036
He says, we've got to
explore all possibilities.
789
00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:37,275
She says, no, which, why should
I do something like after being
790
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:41,146
married 48 years, you know?
791
00:39:41,246 --> 00:39:42,448
In any type of
criminal activity,
792
00:39:42,548 --> 00:39:44,382
usually you can
identify pretty much
793
00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:45,451
upfront what the motive is.
794
00:39:45,551 --> 00:39:46,351
It's pretty simple.
795
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:53,425
The problem with this is you
cannot identify the motive.
796
00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:56,261
You can't identify the
reasons behind the activity
797
00:39:56,361 --> 00:39:57,996
that's going on out there.
798
00:39:58,096 --> 00:39:59,164
There seems to be--
799
00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:01,633
there seems to be a
pattern of activity, yes.
800
00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:04,536
But what is the underlying
reason that this activity
801
00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:05,471
is taking place?
802
00:40:05,571 --> 00:40:07,238
The other thing
is, it's sporadic.
803
00:40:07,338 --> 00:40:08,740
It's not constant.
804
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,777
You'll have months go by with
absolutely nothing happen.
805
00:40:11,877 --> 00:40:13,445
And then you'll have
a flurry of activity
806
00:40:13,545 --> 00:40:15,313
for maybe a period of a month.
807
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:18,750
And then it becomes
dormant again.
808
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,351
This has thrown us
into a quandary,
809
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,589
because we can't figure out
exactly what's going on.
810
00:40:23,689 --> 00:40:25,123
We know what's going on.
811
00:40:25,223 --> 00:40:26,357
They're filing the complaints.
812
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,527
And they're filing reports.
We're going out there.
813
00:40:28,627 --> 00:40:29,761
But, yet, we can find nothing.
814
00:40:33,298 --> 00:40:36,568
NARRATOR: In November of
1993, Bill and Dorothy took
815
00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:39,104
matters into their own hands.
816
00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,439
With the help of family
members, the Wackers
817
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:44,943
staked out their own house.
818
00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:49,014
Bill was holed up in a trailer
parked in the driveway.
819
00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:52,183
Across the street, his
sons in law Dan and Clay
820
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,386
watched from a van.
821
00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:58,657
Clay's wife Kathy stayed
with Dorothy in the house.
822
00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:01,527
The family was linked
by walkie-talkie.
823
00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:02,994
It's all quiet in here.
824
00:41:05,396 --> 00:41:06,397
For
825
00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:09,034
NARRATOR: Almost four
hours, they waited.
826
00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:14,305
Around 10:30 PM, they
decided to call it a night.
827
00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:19,277
And all of a sudden, we
heard bump, bump, bump, bump.
828
00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:21,513
I said, there's something
on the front porch.
829
00:41:21,613 --> 00:41:24,583
We can't see anything.
830
00:41:24,683 --> 00:41:27,085
NARRATOR: Inevitably,
perhaps even predicatively,
831
00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:31,056
the intruder had found a blind
spot in the Wacker's stakeout.
832
00:41:31,156 --> 00:41:33,859
I never saw it
come from anywhere.
833
00:41:33,959 --> 00:41:36,194
NARRATOR: The scrawl
was all too familiar.
834
00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:38,897
The note read simply,
get the message.
835
00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:42,668
Oh my-- here.
836
00:41:42,768 --> 00:41:43,535
Come on.
837
00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:47,405
Let's go in the house.
838
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,876
NARRATOR: Violent assaults,
threatening notes,
839
00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:55,413
unnerving calls, nearly
10 years of harassment.
840
00:41:55,513 --> 00:42:01,186
Who is behind the play
on the Wacker household?
841
00:42:01,286 --> 00:42:03,689
Could it be an embittered
neighbor, a family
842
00:42:03,789 --> 00:42:06,524
member, a total stranger?
843
00:42:06,625 --> 00:42:09,160
The Wackers remain as
mystified today as when
844
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:10,662
their troubles first began.
845
00:42:13,565 --> 00:42:18,837
The sooner he's caught, the
better off a lot of people
846
00:42:18,937 --> 00:42:25,744
are going to be, because if he's
not harassing us or threatening
847
00:42:25,844 --> 00:42:30,181
us, he'll probably be
doing it to somebody else
848
00:42:30,281 --> 00:42:31,750
to get his kicks.
849
00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:33,051
I think that's what
it boils down to.
850
00:42:33,151 --> 00:42:37,155
He gets a heck of a
big kick out of it.
851
00:42:37,255 --> 00:42:40,458
NARRATOR: Next,
authorities need your help
852
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:42,761
to find a deadly arsonist.
853
00:42:42,861 --> 00:42:44,696
[music playing]
854
00:42:55,506 --> 00:42:57,943
NARRATOR: September 29, 1988--
855
00:42:58,043 --> 00:43:00,779
arson investigators sift
through the ashes of a burned
856
00:43:00,879 --> 00:43:04,015
out home in South Oakcliff,
a section of Dallas, Texas.
857
00:43:08,987 --> 00:43:11,757
Five children had died
as a result of the fire.
858
00:43:11,857 --> 00:43:13,558
And the authorities
wanted to know why.
859
00:43:17,395 --> 00:43:20,131
The house belonged to a
woman named Molly Jordan.
860
00:43:20,231 --> 00:43:22,000
The victims were her
great granddaughter,
861
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,204
2-year-old Jasmine, and four
of her grandchildren, Jamal 6,
862
00:43:26,304 --> 00:43:29,540
Erica 9, Bernard
16, and 18-year-old
863
00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:31,309
Dimitra, Jasmine's mother.
864
00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:38,784
September 28 seemed, at
first, like any other day
865
00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:40,652
in the Jordan household.
866
00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:44,723
By 3:30 that afternoon, the
kids were all home from school.
867
00:43:44,823 --> 00:43:47,859
Their grandmother, Molly
Jordan, was about to leave.
868
00:43:47,959 --> 00:43:50,662
Molly worked back to back
eight hour shifts as a nurse
869
00:43:50,762 --> 00:43:54,299
to support the six children.
870
00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:57,268
Molly's jobs would keep
her away for some 16 hours
871
00:43:57,368 --> 00:43:59,204
until 7:00 the next morning.
872
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:01,272
But she carried a
beeper so the kids could
873
00:44:01,372 --> 00:44:02,974
reach her directly at any time.
874
00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:11,382
Around 3:00 AM, Ketrick
Jordan, then 10 years old,
875
00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:12,918
awakened to the
sound of his brother
876
00:44:13,018 --> 00:44:15,120
Bernard talking to someone.
877
00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:17,555
Bernard had apparently
become deeply involved
878
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:18,757
with a local drug dealer.
879
00:44:22,928 --> 00:44:25,263
I was walking to
the refrigerator.
880
00:44:25,363 --> 00:44:26,464
And I saw him.
881
00:44:26,564 --> 00:44:30,035
I saw the drug dealer and
Bernard talking about,
882
00:44:30,135 --> 00:44:31,369
where's my money?
883
00:44:31,469 --> 00:44:34,372
And Bernard said, I don't know
what you're talking about.
884
00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:35,273
Bernard.
885
00:44:38,143 --> 00:44:39,444
Ketrick, get back to bed.
886
00:44:39,544 --> 00:44:40,345
But--
887
00:44:40,445 --> 00:44:41,446
And don't come back out.
888
00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:48,586
NARRATOR: The
brief exchange left
889
00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,356
Ketrick shaken, afraid to
go back to his own bedroom.
890
00:44:54,492 --> 00:44:56,594
So I went into
my sister's room.
891
00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:57,495
And I went to bed.
892
00:45:00,732 --> 00:45:02,968
It seemed like I
didn't sleep that long.
893
00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:06,371
But it seemed like about
five minutes later,
894
00:45:06,471 --> 00:45:11,810
he busted into the door,
and the house was on fire.
895
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:13,611
-The house is on fire!
896
00:45:13,711 --> 00:45:16,081
The house is on fire!
897
00:45:16,181 --> 00:45:17,548
[screaming]
898
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:24,923
He told me to start
busting out windows,
899
00:45:25,023 --> 00:45:28,226
and stuff to try to get air
coming through the house,
900
00:45:28,326 --> 00:45:30,161
because we couldn't go
through the front door.
901
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,535
NARRATOR: The only hope of
escape was through the windows.
902
00:45:37,635 --> 00:45:40,605
But the safety releases for
the burglar bars inexplicably
903
00:45:40,705 --> 00:45:43,875
jammed, and refused to budge.
904
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,979
I saw my sister Erica
laying on the bed crying.
905
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,148
And I tried to save
her so she can get air.
906
00:45:50,248 --> 00:45:52,583
But she was in such a panic.
907
00:45:52,683 --> 00:45:56,888
And then my sister, she
was bursting out windows.
908
00:45:56,988 --> 00:45:58,623
And she cut herself real bad.
909
00:45:58,723 --> 00:46:01,359
And she got into a panic.
910
00:46:01,459 --> 00:46:04,129
And I looked over to my
little brother Jamal.
911
00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:06,898
And he was already dead.
912
00:46:06,998 --> 00:46:10,035
And I looked over
to my niece, Jas.
913
00:46:10,135 --> 00:46:11,036
She was already dead.
914
00:46:13,939 --> 00:46:15,807
NARRATOR: By the time
firemen arrived, flames
915
00:46:15,907 --> 00:46:17,675
had engulfed much of the house.
916
00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:19,310
All six children were trapped.
917
00:46:22,313 --> 00:46:25,383
Repeated attempts to break
down the front door failed.
918
00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:27,986
Inside, a coach had been
propped against the door,
919
00:46:28,086 --> 00:46:28,887
holding it closed.
920
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,230
The burglar bars doomed any
chance of a quick rescue.
921
00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:42,400
And precious minutes dribbled
away, as firefighters fought
922
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:43,434
their way through the iron.
923
00:46:50,408 --> 00:46:52,810
10 minutes later,
the bars gave way.
924
00:46:52,911 --> 00:46:56,047
Firemen didn't know if anyone
was still alive inside.
925
00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:58,149
While parts of the
house continued to burn,
926
00:46:58,249 --> 00:47:00,251
they began searching
for survivors.
927
00:47:00,351 --> 00:47:02,220
They found Ketrick Jordan first.
928
00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:09,060
Ketrick was burned over
more than 75% of his body.
929
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,396
Dimitra Jordan was
also pulled out alive,
930
00:47:11,496 --> 00:47:14,866
but she would die the
next day at the hospital.
931
00:47:14,966 --> 00:47:16,601
The bodies of the
other four children
932
00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:19,537
were found huddled together,
lifeless at the foot
933
00:47:19,637 --> 00:47:20,805
of the barred window.
934
00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:27,012
At that very moment,
Molly Jordan was
935
00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:28,880
rushing home from the hospital.
936
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:31,582
She had been called by a
relative, who said only,
937
00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:35,220
the children are all gone.
938
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,957
When I got about a mile
or so from the house,
939
00:47:39,057 --> 00:47:40,091
one ambulance passed me.
940
00:47:40,191 --> 00:47:42,460
They were just
screaming and going.
941
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,029
Then I started feeling
sick at the stomach.
942
00:47:44,129 --> 00:47:45,263
Then I was thinking,
well, it didn't
943
00:47:45,363 --> 00:47:46,297
have to come from my house.
944
00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:47,698
There's a lot of houses.
945
00:47:47,798 --> 00:47:50,268
But when I got
within a few blocks,
946
00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:52,938
it was another one passed
me screaming and hollering.
947
00:47:53,038 --> 00:47:55,040
And I just got real
sick to the stomach,
948
00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:57,875
heart went to beating
fast, and all this.
949
00:47:57,976 --> 00:47:59,810
It seemed like I
couldn't breathe.
950
00:47:59,911 --> 00:48:02,447
I couldn't walk.
I couldn't stop.
951
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:04,182
I couldn't talk.
952
00:48:04,282 --> 00:48:06,584
Just everything left
my body it seemed like.
953
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,655
NARRATOR: Once the
flames were extinguished,
954
00:48:10,755 --> 00:48:14,292
arson investigators easily
determined that the deadly fire
955
00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:17,662
had been deliberately set.
956
00:48:17,762 --> 00:48:21,967
In the main living room,
we found a gasoline can that
957
00:48:22,067 --> 00:48:23,701
had been there during the fire.
958
00:48:23,801 --> 00:48:25,136
And later on during
the investigation,
959
00:48:25,236 --> 00:48:28,106
we actually did find
samples of flammable liquid
960
00:48:28,206 --> 00:48:33,378
that had been poured on
the floor and set on fire.
961
00:48:33,478 --> 00:48:34,779
NARRATOR: Investigators
soon pieced
962
00:48:34,879 --> 00:48:36,747
together what they
believe are the events
963
00:48:36,847 --> 00:48:37,782
that led up to the fire.
964
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,022
The drug people had come to
seek payment from Bernard,
965
00:48:44,122 --> 00:48:46,057
wanted him to come outside.
966
00:48:46,157 --> 00:48:47,125
He did not come outside.
967
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,896
They set the house on fire
to get him to come outside.
968
00:48:51,997 --> 00:48:53,931
But, unfortunately,
the whole family
969
00:48:54,032 --> 00:48:56,234
got caught in the burglar
bars, and didn't come out.
970
00:48:56,334 --> 00:48:59,704
So we have an act of arson
that resulted in five murders,
971
00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:03,041
and one severe injury.
972
00:49:03,141 --> 00:49:04,775
NARRATOR: Police now
believe Bernard piled up
973
00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:07,478
furniture in a desperate attempt
to keep the assailants out
974
00:49:07,578 --> 00:49:08,746
of the house.
975
00:49:08,846 --> 00:49:12,083
Instead, both the couch
jammed against the front door
976
00:49:12,183 --> 00:49:15,053
and a love seat wedged behind
the hallway door trapped
977
00:49:15,153 --> 00:49:17,788
the children in the house.
978
00:49:17,888 --> 00:49:20,291
The arsonist probably
entered through this window,
979
00:49:20,391 --> 00:49:21,993
one of two not
equipped with bars.
980
00:49:24,996 --> 00:49:26,831
He worked quite hard
to try to find who
981
00:49:26,931 --> 00:49:29,400
was responsible for the fire.
982
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,803
We did come up with one
name, one of the individuals
983
00:49:32,903 --> 00:49:35,440
supplying drugs to Bernard.
984
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,209
His name was Curly,
the nickname Curly.
985
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:41,846
He was a black male,
about 5' 10" in height,
986
00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:43,448
weighed about 160 pounds.
987
00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:45,916
We never have found Curly,
or any of his friends.
988
00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:49,587
But Curly is known to have
bragged about setting the fire.
989
00:49:54,259 --> 00:49:55,893
NARRATOR: Three days
after the tragedy,
990
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:59,797
some 2,000 people gathered at
Carver Heights Baptist Church
991
00:49:59,897 --> 00:50:04,569
to mourn the loss of the
five Jordan children.
992
00:50:04,669 --> 00:50:08,073
In the five years since, Ketrick
Jordan, the lone survivor,
993
00:50:08,173 --> 00:50:10,841
has endured a dozen
operations, including
994
00:50:10,941 --> 00:50:15,146
the amputation of both legs.
995
00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:17,082
Ketrick is now 16.
996
00:50:17,182 --> 00:50:20,185
Prosthetic limbs have
allowed him to walk again.
997
00:50:20,285 --> 00:50:22,820
After the fire, an
outpouring of contributions
998
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,555
from the community
enabled Ketrick
999
00:50:24,655 --> 00:50:26,957
and his grandmother
to move to a new home
1000
00:50:27,058 --> 00:50:29,394
in a different part of Dallas.
1001
00:50:29,494 --> 00:50:31,362
[music playing]
1002
00:50:48,179 --> 00:50:50,115
NARRATOR: Do you
believe in angels?
1003
00:50:50,215 --> 00:50:52,483
Here are the incredible
stories of two women
1004
00:50:52,583 --> 00:50:54,419
who believed
celestial intervention
1005
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:57,488
saved them from certain death.
1006
00:50:57,588 --> 00:50:59,557
In California,
police are searching
1007
00:50:59,657 --> 00:51:01,326
for an unknown
witness who may have
1008
00:51:01,426 --> 00:51:06,197
vital information about the
murder of a deputy Sheriff.
1009
00:51:06,297 --> 00:51:08,533
And two poignant
stories of lost love--
1010
00:51:08,633 --> 00:51:11,302
in one, a woman
battling a fatal illness
1011
00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:13,838
hopes to find her
long lost sister.
1012
00:51:13,938 --> 00:51:17,074
In the other, Brenda Abby's
search for her birth parents
1013
00:51:17,175 --> 00:51:19,110
has taken her into
the unfamiliar world
1014
00:51:19,210 --> 00:51:20,711
of the traveling carnival.
1015
00:51:20,811 --> 00:51:22,613
[music playing]
1016
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,923
NARRATOR: Do angels
dwell among us?
1017
00:51:33,023 --> 00:51:35,660
More than 1,000 years
ago, St. Augustine
1018
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,062
wrote that every visible
thing in this world
1019
00:51:38,163 --> 00:51:40,398
is put in the
charge of an angel.
1020
00:51:40,498 --> 00:51:43,501
Even today, most of us
hope those words are true.
1021
00:51:46,537 --> 00:51:49,106
You're about to meet
two women, both of whom
1022
00:51:49,207 --> 00:51:50,241
are certain that
they were placed
1023
00:51:50,341 --> 00:51:51,942
in the charge of
a guardian angel
1024
00:51:52,042 --> 00:51:54,545
just when they needed it most.
1025
00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:57,548
Consider first the
case of Janie Shamal.
1026
00:51:57,648 --> 00:52:00,685
Her story begins in 1976.
1027
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:03,888
Janie had just turned 14, when
her brother and sister-in-law
1028
00:52:03,988 --> 00:52:05,290
took her on a Western vacation.
1029
00:52:08,959 --> 00:52:11,296
They traveled in a camper
with another family,
1030
00:52:11,396 --> 00:52:15,132
and visited all the usual
tourist attractions.
1031
00:52:15,233 --> 00:52:17,535
However, one stop stands out.
1032
00:52:17,635 --> 00:52:19,637
In the painted desert,
something amazing
1033
00:52:19,737 --> 00:52:23,841
happened, something Janie, who
is now 31, will never forget.
1034
00:52:26,844 --> 00:52:29,814
I had gotten a new
camera for the trip.
1035
00:52:29,914 --> 00:52:33,684
And I was curious to get
some good photographs.
1036
00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:38,489
And I can remember leaning
up against the guardrail,
1037
00:52:38,589 --> 00:52:41,426
focusing the camera,
and thinking, you know,
1038
00:52:41,526 --> 00:52:43,194
if I just got on this other
side of this guard rail
1039
00:52:43,294 --> 00:52:44,629
down there a little
bit, it would
1040
00:52:44,729 --> 00:52:49,133
be a much better photograph.
1041
00:52:49,234 --> 00:52:52,770
As nearly as anyone can figure,
just at that same moment,
1042
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:55,806
Janie's mother surely, who
had stayed home in Michigan,
1043
00:52:55,906 --> 00:53:00,144
was sitting down to read her
Bible, as she did every day.
1044
00:53:00,245 --> 00:53:03,481
I really felt that I
was led by the Holy Spirit
1045
00:53:03,581 --> 00:53:05,350
to read psalm 91.
1046
00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:11,556
And I began sobbing,
just sobbing, because I
1047
00:53:11,656 --> 00:53:14,892
knew Janie was going to die.
1048
00:53:14,992 --> 00:53:17,862
I didn't know why or how.
1049
00:53:17,962 --> 00:53:22,300
But I knew she was going to die.
1050
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,301
[shouting]
1051
00:53:27,505 --> 00:53:28,839
- She's gone over the edge!
- Where did she go?
1052
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:29,807
Right over the railing.
1053
00:53:29,907 --> 00:53:31,509
I can't see her anymore.
1054
00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:38,549
Suddenly, I just stopped.
1055
00:53:38,649 --> 00:53:39,784
I just stopped.
1056
00:53:39,884 --> 00:53:43,888
And I can remember thinking,
I'm so glad I stopped,
1057
00:53:43,988 --> 00:53:46,090
and thinking, what stopped me?
1058
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:50,695
I was afraid.
1059
00:53:50,795 --> 00:53:52,196
I was scared that there
was no way I was going
1060
00:53:52,297 --> 00:53:54,932
to get back up to the top.
1061
00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:56,601
I could not see the top.
1062
00:53:56,701 --> 00:53:59,437
I couldn't hear my
family yelling for me.
1063
00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:06,210
I knew I had to be very careful,
or I would start falling again.
1064
00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:17,488
As soon as I had this feeling
that Janie was going to die,
1065
00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:23,994
I began pleading with the Lord
too, please, don't let her die.
1066
00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:27,865
And that would be more
than what I could bear.
1067
00:54:27,965 --> 00:54:32,403
I continued to read psalm 91.
1068
00:54:32,503 --> 00:54:37,842
It said, and he shall give His
angels charge over thee to keep
1069
00:54:37,942 --> 00:54:40,044
thee in all thy ways.
1070
00:54:40,144 --> 00:54:43,013
And they shall bear
the up in their hands,
1071
00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:47,585
lest your foot dash
against a stone.
1072
00:54:47,685 --> 00:54:53,524
And then a peace just came
over me, because I believed it.
1073
00:54:58,295 --> 00:54:59,397
Janie?
1074
00:54:59,497 --> 00:55:00,398
Alfred, it's Janie!
1075
00:55:00,498 --> 00:55:01,699
She's back!
Janie!
1076
00:55:01,799 --> 00:55:03,000
You're all right.
1077
00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:07,738
Janie, what happened?
1078
00:55:07,838 --> 00:55:08,806
I don't know.
1079
00:55:08,906 --> 00:55:09,807
I fell a long ways.
1080
00:55:09,907 --> 00:55:11,976
I don't even remember
coming back up.
1081
00:55:12,076 --> 00:55:13,944
At least you're all right.
1082
00:55:14,044 --> 00:55:14,979
I was afraid I was going--
1083
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:20,585
I know I did not
climb up myself.
1084
00:55:20,685 --> 00:55:22,219
Something strange had happened.
1085
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:27,658
But I just kind of was
glad I was back up there.
1086
00:55:27,758 --> 00:55:31,496
We had talked among ourselves
about calling her mother.
1087
00:55:31,596 --> 00:55:35,165
And we decided that she
could call her mother,
1088
00:55:35,265 --> 00:55:38,569
but not to say anything
about her fall,
1089
00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:41,138
mainly because we didn't
want to upset Shirley.
1090
00:55:41,238 --> 00:55:44,008
And we were so far
away from home.
1091
00:55:44,108 --> 00:55:47,378
Tell me all about your trip.
1092
00:55:47,478 --> 00:55:49,279
NARRATOR: But,
inevitably, once Janie
1093
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,485
was back home in Michigan with
her mother, the truth came out.
1094
00:55:54,585 --> 00:55:56,687
And here's where I
stepped over the guardrail,
1095
00:55:56,787 --> 00:55:58,222
and I fell down the slope.
1096
00:55:58,322 --> 00:55:59,590
You what?
1097
00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:00,825
I just want to get
a better picture.
1098
00:56:00,925 --> 00:56:01,759
So I climbed over the rail.
1099
00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:02,827
And I slipped.
1100
00:56:02,927 --> 00:56:08,098
And I said, what
are you talking about?
1101
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:14,238
And she said, oh, she
wasn't supposed to tell.
1102
00:56:14,338 --> 00:56:17,174
When did this happen?
1103
00:56:17,274 --> 00:56:18,976
When we were in Arizona.
1104
00:56:19,076 --> 00:56:22,146
You remember that night I called
to tell you everything was OK?
1105
00:56:22,246 --> 00:56:24,582
Well, it happened that morning.
1106
00:56:24,682 --> 00:56:27,585
When Janie was
telling her story,
1107
00:56:27,685 --> 00:56:31,255
I really realized
the whole magnitude
1108
00:56:31,355 --> 00:56:35,726
of what had happened to me.
1109
00:56:35,826 --> 00:56:41,732
Then I knew that verses 11 and
12, that the angel shall bare
1110
00:56:41,832 --> 00:56:45,470
thee up in their hands,
lest your foot dash
1111
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:50,207
against the stone, that
they were the ones that
1112
00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:53,043
brought her back to the top.
1113
00:56:53,143 --> 00:56:56,146
When I heard my mother's story
of what had happened that day,
1114
00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:59,584
and her feelings that
I was going to die,
1115
00:56:59,684 --> 00:57:01,786
I realized then that
it was her prayers that
1116
00:57:01,886 --> 00:57:05,322
had sent the angels
that had made me stop,
1117
00:57:05,422 --> 00:57:06,824
and had brought me to
the top of the canyon.
1118
00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:13,698
How do you explain what
happened to Janie Shamal?
1119
00:57:13,798 --> 00:57:15,866
Even though Janie neither
saw nor heard anything
1120
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,469
to confirm it, she is
thoroughly convinced that she
1121
00:57:18,569 --> 00:57:21,171
was rescued by an angel.
1122
00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:23,608
Estella Vera of
Riverside, California
1123
00:57:23,708 --> 00:57:26,777
reports an even more
dramatic experience.
1124
00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:29,747
Estella believes not only
that an angel saved her,
1125
00:57:29,847 --> 00:57:31,716
but that she actually
saw him do it.
1126
00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:38,055
On Saturday, March 30th,
1991, Estella and her two
1127
00:57:38,155 --> 00:57:40,090
grown children were
on their way home
1128
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:43,828
when they spotted an ice
cream truck being robbed.
1129
00:57:43,928 --> 00:57:45,930
Estella's daughter ran
to call the police,
1130
00:57:46,030 --> 00:57:49,800
while her son rushed to help
the ice cream truck owner.
1131
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:51,969
He and another and
were already grappling
1132
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:54,071
with the large,
musclebound assailant.
1133
00:57:54,171 --> 00:57:56,006
[shouting]
1134
00:58:03,347 --> 00:58:05,082
I knew there was absolutely
nothing I could do.
1135
00:58:05,182 --> 00:58:07,952
And I saw my mother in
the path of his van.
1136
00:58:08,052 --> 00:58:08,853
Mama!
1137
00:58:13,624 --> 00:58:15,726
I knew she was in
between the two.
1138
00:58:15,826 --> 00:58:19,296
So I think instantly,
I thought she was dead.
1139
00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:24,434
NARRATOR: Estella's left leg
had been severed below the knee.
1140
00:58:24,535 --> 00:58:27,337
And she had suffered
cardiac arrest.
1141
00:58:27,437 --> 00:58:30,507
At the hospital, Mingo
and his father kept vigil.
1142
00:58:30,608 --> 00:58:32,777
What did the doctor say?
1143
00:58:32,877 --> 00:58:36,246
The first time I saw my
mother after the incident,
1144
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:37,815
I could not recognize her.
1145
00:58:37,915 --> 00:58:41,586
Her face was completely swollen.
1146
00:58:41,686 --> 00:58:44,388
And we were just
waiting for any word
1147
00:58:44,488 --> 00:58:47,925
whether or not she
would even survive.
1148
00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:50,060
NARRATOR: Estella drifted
in and out of consciousness
1149
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,062
for the next several days.
1150
00:58:52,162 --> 00:58:54,164
Finally, she awoke.
1151
00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:55,065
He's OK.
1152
00:58:55,165 --> 00:58:56,000
He's right here.
1153
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:57,802
It's good to hear
your voice, Mom.
1154
00:58:57,902 --> 00:59:00,504
Did you see the
man by the trunk?
1155
00:59:00,605 --> 00:59:01,405
Don't worry, Mama.
1156
00:59:01,505 --> 00:59:04,341
He's in jail.
1157
00:59:04,441 --> 00:59:08,245
No, the other man,
surrounded by light,
1158
00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:10,581
in front of the truck.
1159
00:59:10,681 --> 00:59:12,717
Was this some dream, Estella?
1160
00:59:12,817 --> 00:59:17,487
No, he was standing
by the truck.
1161
00:59:17,588 --> 00:59:21,025
My father and I looked at
each other kind of puzzled,
1162
00:59:21,125 --> 00:59:23,928
and possibly looking
at her as if she
1163
00:59:24,028 --> 00:59:26,764
may have dreamt
something within the time
1164
00:59:26,864 --> 00:59:29,700
she was in the hospital.
1165
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,604
NARRATOR: But Estella insisted
she had not been dreaming.
1166
00:59:33,704 --> 00:59:36,406
The story she tells
is truly astonishing.
1167
00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:48,052
I remember just looking at
this truck coming so fast.
1168
00:59:48,152 --> 00:59:54,925
And just with all my
heart, I said to God, God,
1169
00:59:55,025 --> 00:59:57,728
please don't let me die.
1170
00:59:57,828 --> 01:00:01,031
And then I started reciting
psalms that I know.
1171
01:00:01,131 --> 01:00:04,168
I said the angel
of the Lord takes
1172
01:00:04,268 --> 01:00:06,370
care of those that loves him.
1173
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:09,373
And then I look again.
1174
01:00:09,473 --> 01:00:12,042
And the truck is
right in front of me.
1175
01:00:12,142 --> 01:00:16,246
And I could see
the robber's face.
1176
01:00:16,346 --> 01:00:18,382
He looks so angry.
1177
01:00:18,482 --> 01:00:20,384
You could see those eyes.
1178
01:00:20,484 --> 01:00:22,619
He was desperate.
1179
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,254
I look again.
1180
01:00:24,354 --> 01:00:33,030
And now, in front of the truck,
there is this beautiful person.
1181
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:36,266
He looks so peaceful,
so beautiful.
1182
01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:40,504
He has the most beautiful smile.
1183
01:00:40,604 --> 01:00:42,707
You could see him,
like in slow motion.
1184
01:00:47,011 --> 01:00:50,214
Immediately, I forgot
about the ice cream truck.
1185
01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:53,617
I forgot about everything
that was happening.
1186
01:00:53,718 --> 01:00:57,121
All I remember was
this beautiful face.
1187
01:00:57,221 --> 01:00:58,422
And then I grab his hand.
1188
01:01:01,225 --> 01:01:03,861
I put my face over his hand.
1189
01:01:03,961 --> 01:01:06,096
And I would go on like this.
1190
01:01:06,196 --> 01:01:08,165
And I remembered,
a couple of times,
1191
01:01:08,265 --> 01:01:10,768
I opened my eyes
to look at his face
1192
01:01:10,868 --> 01:01:12,837
to be sure that he was there.
1193
01:01:12,937 --> 01:01:16,140
And I could see him right
over there looking at me
1194
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,342
with a big smile.
1195
01:01:18,442 --> 01:01:19,676
I believed her.
1196
01:01:19,777 --> 01:01:23,413
She was very sincere, very
excited, very sure of the fact
1197
01:01:23,513 --> 01:01:25,349
that the angel was there.
1198
01:01:28,052 --> 01:01:33,758
I felt possibly a little
doubtful myself, because nobody
1199
01:01:33,858 --> 01:01:36,560
else saw anything.
1200
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:41,065
But you can see it in her
eyes that it was true.
1201
01:01:41,165 --> 01:01:46,036
I cannot really explain
this beautiful experience.
1202
01:01:46,136 --> 01:01:50,975
I have no doubt in my heart that
God sent an angel to save me.
1203
01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:55,645
I ask everyone if they saw
this beautiful person pulling
1204
01:01:55,746 --> 01:01:57,514
me to the side and helping me.
1205
01:01:57,614 --> 01:02:01,385
Nobody knew what I
was talking about.
1206
01:02:01,485 --> 01:02:05,022
But I knew that it
was true, that God
1207
01:02:05,122 --> 01:02:07,157
sent an angel to save me.
1208
01:02:14,631 --> 01:02:16,867
Remarkably, Estella
Vera feels no bitterness
1209
01:02:16,967 --> 01:02:18,202
about the accident.
1210
01:02:18,302 --> 01:02:19,770
And with the aid
of a prosthesis,
1211
01:02:19,870 --> 01:02:22,973
Estella has already
been able to walk again.
1212
01:02:23,073 --> 01:02:25,309
Are there angels among us?
1213
01:02:25,409 --> 01:02:27,577
No matter what anyone
else may think,
1214
01:02:27,677 --> 01:02:31,448
Estella Vera firmly believes she
is alive today because she was
1215
01:02:31,548 --> 01:02:33,183
visited by a guardian angel.
1216
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:39,756
When we return, a woman
fighting a deadly disease
1217
01:02:39,857 --> 01:02:43,693
needs your help find
her long lost sister.
1218
01:02:43,794 --> 01:02:45,562
And police believe
a mystery witness
1219
01:02:45,662 --> 01:02:49,266
holds the key to identifying
a cold-blooded killer.
1220
01:02:49,366 --> 01:02:50,700
[music playing]
1221
01:03:00,044 --> 01:03:03,013
NARRATOR: For Diane Hamline
of La Crucenta, California,
1222
01:03:03,113 --> 01:03:04,849
every day is a
race against time.
1223
01:03:07,484 --> 01:03:09,386
The rare and often
fatal blood disease
1224
01:03:09,486 --> 01:03:12,222
she has been fighting
since 1986 has finally
1225
01:03:12,322 --> 01:03:15,292
reached the crisis point.
1226
01:03:15,392 --> 01:03:16,693
Diane, how are you doing?
1227
01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:18,528
Hi, doc.
1228
01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:21,465
This procedure is going to
take about five or 10 minutes.
1229
01:03:21,565 --> 01:03:23,133
You may be a little
uncomfortable
1230
01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:24,801
before the biopsy is done.
1231
01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:26,803
How uncomfortable?
1232
01:03:26,904 --> 01:03:27,704
It's going to hurt.
1233
01:03:27,804 --> 01:03:29,473
But it won't take long.
1234
01:03:29,573 --> 01:03:34,044
Diane has a relatively
unusual blood disorder, normally
1235
01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:38,748
considered to be an incurable
illness, now potentially could
1236
01:03:38,849 --> 01:03:43,921
be cured by the utilization of
a bone marrow transplantation,
1237
01:03:44,021 --> 01:03:45,489
fraught with a lot
of dangers though,
1238
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:47,691
and a lot of potential
complications,
1239
01:03:47,791 --> 01:03:49,793
so not something to
be taken lightly.
1240
01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:55,465
NARRATOR: In all the world, this
woman, Diane's younger sister
1241
01:03:55,565 --> 01:03:58,435
Marilyn, is the only potential
bone marrow donor who
1242
01:03:58,535 --> 01:04:01,105
offers any chance of success.
1243
01:04:01,205 --> 01:04:04,441
But Diane has no idea
where Marilyn is today.
1244
01:04:04,541 --> 01:04:09,246
She hasn't even talked to her
sister in more than 20 years.
1245
01:04:09,346 --> 01:04:11,415
I feel I'm asking
a lot of my sister
1246
01:04:11,515 --> 01:04:13,483
to do this bone marrow for me.
1247
01:04:13,583 --> 01:04:17,354
But even if she doesn't agree
to a transplant, if she says,
1248
01:04:17,454 --> 01:04:19,556
I don't want to do
this, I would still
1249
01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:21,892
like to make peace with her.
1250
01:04:21,992 --> 01:04:22,792
She's my sister.
1251
01:04:27,297 --> 01:04:30,000
NARRATOR: Diane is three
years older than Marilyn.
1252
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:34,972
They grew up in Los
Angeles during the 1940s.
1253
01:04:35,072 --> 01:04:36,506
We were post-war babies.
1254
01:04:36,606 --> 01:04:38,408
And we came from
a lot of poverty.
1255
01:04:38,508 --> 01:04:40,010
There wasn't any money.
1256
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:44,681
And our mother and father
had to work long hours.
1257
01:04:44,781 --> 01:04:45,649
We were like most children.
1258
01:04:45,749 --> 01:04:48,385
We fought, and
bickered, and didn't
1259
01:04:48,485 --> 01:04:50,120
want to do the housework.
1260
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:51,055
You know, you do that.
1261
01:04:51,155 --> 01:04:52,489
No, you do that.
1262
01:04:52,589 --> 01:04:53,590
I don't think it hurt us.
1263
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:56,060
But I think that
she resented that.
1264
01:05:02,766 --> 01:05:09,206
NARRATOR: Diane and Marilyn's
parents separated in 1954.
1265
01:05:09,306 --> 01:05:11,508
Ultimately, Marilyn went
to live with her father.
1266
01:05:18,448 --> 01:05:20,884
After my sister
moved in with my dad,
1267
01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:25,055
I saw my sister maybe,
like, once a month.
1268
01:05:25,155 --> 01:05:27,824
But as time went on, it
became more infrequent.
1269
01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:31,295
And I just think because
she went with dad
1270
01:05:31,395 --> 01:05:34,798
and I went with mom,
that we separated.
1271
01:05:34,898 --> 01:05:36,233
I mean, we just lost our--
1272
01:05:36,333 --> 01:05:38,902
we didn't do our activities
or anything together anymore.
1273
01:05:43,873 --> 01:05:46,243
NARRATOR: Years passed
with little contact.
1274
01:05:46,343 --> 01:05:50,014
In 1965, Diane visited her
sister at the restaurant
1275
01:05:50,114 --> 01:05:50,914
where she worked.
1276
01:05:51,015 --> 01:05:53,517
This place never stops.
1277
01:05:53,617 --> 01:05:55,019
So how are you doing?
1278
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,554
Well, met a new guy.
1279
01:05:57,654 --> 01:05:58,622
Yeah?
1280
01:05:58,722 --> 01:06:00,624
NARRATOR: Marilyn
said she was in love.
1281
01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:03,127
She planned to marry a man
who had several children
1282
01:06:03,227 --> 01:06:06,130
from a previous marriage.
1283
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:07,031
Crazy about him.
1284
01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:12,869
NARRATOR: Neither
sister realized
1285
01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:15,172
the brief visit would be
the last time they would
1286
01:06:15,272 --> 01:06:18,808
see each other face to face.
1287
01:06:18,908 --> 01:06:22,112
Eight years later, they did
speak briefly on the phone.
1288
01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:25,649
Marilyn told Diane that she had
a little boy named Billy Joe.
1289
01:06:25,749 --> 01:06:27,017
Billy Joe?
1290
01:06:27,117 --> 01:06:28,885
That's good.
1291
01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:31,155
NARRATOR: The sisters talked
about getting together.
1292
01:06:31,255 --> 01:06:34,224
But time drifted by, and
they never spoke again.
1293
01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:35,125
Bye-bye.
1294
01:06:41,031 --> 01:06:43,500
NARRATOR: In January
of 1994, Diane
1295
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,335
hired private
investigator Marilyn
1296
01:06:45,435 --> 01:06:47,937
Ganell to find her sister.
1297
01:06:48,038 --> 01:06:50,040
Well, it's like a
needle in a haystack,
1298
01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:52,242
because without a
name, you have nothing
1299
01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:55,279
to pin your investigation on.
1300
01:06:55,379 --> 01:06:59,883
We have tried certain things
with the use of her maiden name
1301
01:06:59,983 --> 01:07:01,985
and her first married name.
1302
01:07:02,086 --> 01:07:03,587
And, of course,
her maiden name is
1303
01:07:03,687 --> 01:07:06,356
Jones, which makes it
extremely difficult.
1304
01:07:06,456 --> 01:07:10,727
There's no paucity
of Jones available.
1305
01:07:10,827 --> 01:07:11,628
How are you?
1306
01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:12,796
How are you, doctor?
1307
01:07:12,896 --> 01:07:13,797
Good.
1308
01:07:13,897 --> 01:07:14,998
NARRATOR: With
every passing, day
1309
01:07:15,099 --> 01:07:19,303
Diane's treatment become
less and less effective,
1310
01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:21,605
her search more and more vital.
1311
01:07:21,705 --> 01:07:23,640
In the morning.
1312
01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:25,942
Any bleeding, easy bruising?
1313
01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:28,545
I'm having more bruising now.
1314
01:07:28,645 --> 01:07:30,780
NARRATOR: Diane is
an unusual person.
1315
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,083
She has a very strong will.
1316
01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:35,185
She's very optimistic.
1317
01:07:35,285 --> 01:07:37,387
She's really, so to
speak, already beaten
1318
01:07:37,487 --> 01:07:40,490
the odds by getting this far.
1319
01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:44,161
I think I'm still here
after all these years
1320
01:07:44,261 --> 01:07:47,097
is because I don't think that
my life should be over with yet.
1321
01:07:47,197 --> 01:07:49,633
You know, I had a
daughter to finish
1322
01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:52,536
raising to go to college.
1323
01:07:52,636 --> 01:07:54,571
And I'd like to see her get
married and have babies.
1324
01:07:54,671 --> 01:07:56,906
And I just don't feel like
checking out of here yet.
1325
01:07:57,006 --> 01:07:58,975
But I think I'm
going to pretty soon
1326
01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:02,346
if I don't do something fast.
1327
01:08:02,446 --> 01:08:04,281
When we broadcast
Diane's story,
1328
01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:07,251
a private investigator from
Denver, Colorado, Robin Lee,
1329
01:08:07,351 --> 01:08:08,552
was watching.
1330
01:08:08,652 --> 01:08:10,187
She was touched
by Diane's plight,
1331
01:08:10,287 --> 01:08:12,689
but assumed we would
get the clues we needed.
1332
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:14,023
We didn't.
1333
01:08:14,124 --> 01:08:16,226
As luck would have it,
Robin was also watching when
1334
01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:18,462
the segment re-ran in June.
1335
01:08:18,562 --> 01:08:21,131
This time, she decided to
volunteer her help in tracking
1336
01:08:21,231 --> 01:08:25,335
Marilyn Down The result was
one of our most unusual solves
1337
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:26,803
ever.
1338
01:08:26,903 --> 01:08:31,275
I contacted the show, got
a little more information,
1339
01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:33,743
started out with
the sister's name.
1340
01:08:33,843 --> 01:08:35,579
Marilyn Jones was
her maiden name,
1341
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:37,681
started with that and
the date of birth,
1342
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,849
and went on from there.
1343
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:42,152
And it took me about
three days to find her,
1344
01:08:42,252 --> 01:08:44,120
three working days, if you
don't count the 4th of July
1345
01:08:44,221 --> 01:08:47,824
holiday in between.
1346
01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:51,661
And I think it's great
that they're back together.
1347
01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:55,165
NARRATOR: On August 13th,
1994, Marilyn and Diane
1348
01:08:55,265 --> 01:08:58,001
met face to face for the
first time in 30 years.
1349
01:09:01,505 --> 01:09:04,341
It's so good to see you.
1350
01:09:04,441 --> 01:09:08,478
Once we hugged, it was
like it hadn't been 30 years.
1351
01:09:08,578 --> 01:09:13,082
It had been just a short time.
1352
01:09:13,183 --> 01:09:15,752
I guess maybe that's
why I feel comfortable,
1353
01:09:15,852 --> 01:09:18,922
is because I can feel the love.
1354
01:09:19,022 --> 01:09:21,391
And when you feel that
love, you feel comfortable.
1355
01:09:21,491 --> 01:09:22,559
You haven't changed a bit.
1356
01:09:22,659 --> 01:09:23,460
Oh no.
1357
01:09:26,095 --> 01:09:27,597
I get cuter with age.
1358
01:09:27,697 --> 01:09:29,666
Yes, you do.
1359
01:09:29,766 --> 01:09:31,100
I think I'm still
in shock, you know?
1360
01:09:31,201 --> 01:09:33,270
It's still like,
I'm not here yet.
1361
01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:35,505
It's just a dream, you know?
1362
01:09:35,605 --> 01:09:36,840
But it's a great dream.
1363
01:09:36,940 --> 01:09:39,376
And we have a lot of
catching up to do.
1364
01:09:39,476 --> 01:09:42,646
And we'll be
together forever now.
1365
01:09:42,746 --> 01:09:44,047
We're going to have a
lot of fun together,
1366
01:09:44,147 --> 01:09:47,451
enjoy the time we have.
1367
01:09:47,551 --> 01:09:49,853
Isn't that beautiful?
1368
01:09:49,953 --> 01:09:51,955
NARRATOR: Coincidentally,
the day of the reunion
1369
01:09:52,055 --> 01:09:54,458
was Dianne's 53rd birthday.
1370
01:09:54,558 --> 01:09:57,794
And Marilyn had not forgotten.
1371
01:09:57,894 --> 01:10:00,063
And my name is spelled right.
1372
01:10:05,469 --> 01:10:08,204
This is the best gift I've
ever had in my whole life.
1373
01:10:08,305 --> 01:10:11,975
This is the best gift
ever, is to have my sister,
1374
01:10:12,075 --> 01:10:15,279
and to have my family
for my birthday.
1375
01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:17,213
It'll be the best birthday
I've ever had in my whole life.
1376
01:10:21,451 --> 01:10:23,019
NARRATOR: On the
day of the reunion,
1377
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:26,122
Marilyn's fondest wish was
to prove a compatible bone
1378
01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:28,392
marrow donor for her sister.
1379
01:10:28,492 --> 01:10:30,159
Do I have to go to the movies?
1380
01:10:30,260 --> 01:10:32,462
To the movies, we have
go all the way to Canada.
1381
01:10:32,562 --> 01:10:33,363
[laughter]
1382
01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:39,903
I want more than anything
to have this work with Dyann.
1383
01:10:40,003 --> 01:10:41,571
But even if it
doesn't, we're going
1384
01:10:41,671 --> 01:10:46,042
to take full
advantage of however
1385
01:10:46,142 --> 01:10:49,546
long we do have together.
1386
01:10:49,646 --> 01:10:52,349
We can make a week
seem like an eternity.
1387
01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:00,724
As it turned out,
a series of tests
1388
01:11:00,824 --> 01:11:03,893
showed Marilyn's bone marrow
would not work for Dyann.
1389
01:11:03,993 --> 01:11:05,829
But there is a ray of hope.
1390
01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,565
Doctors are now moving on to
a new experimental therapy
1391
01:11:08,665 --> 01:11:10,900
for Dyann's blood disorder.
1392
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,436
In the meantime,
she and Marilyn are
1393
01:11:12,536 --> 01:11:14,438
making the most of
their precious, newly
1394
01:11:14,538 --> 01:11:15,605
kindled relationship.
1395
01:11:15,705 --> 01:11:17,541
[music playing]
1396
01:11:29,853 --> 01:11:32,889
January 24th, 1987,
a deputy Sheriff
1397
01:11:32,989 --> 01:11:34,558
named Charlie Anderson
was gunned down
1398
01:11:34,658 --> 01:11:37,361
in his Burbank, California home.
1399
01:11:37,461 --> 01:11:38,895
The next day, an
anonymous witness
1400
01:11:38,995 --> 01:11:40,864
phoned the Burbank
Police, claiming to know
1401
01:11:40,964 --> 01:11:42,799
the identity of the killer.
1402
01:11:42,899 --> 01:11:44,634
But the caller,
obviously nervous,
1403
01:11:44,734 --> 01:11:47,236
hung up before revealing
any information.
1404
01:11:47,337 --> 01:11:49,272
He never called back.
1405
01:11:49,373 --> 01:11:51,975
Authorities hope that
tonight, seven years later,
1406
01:11:52,075 --> 01:11:55,211
this mystery witness will
finally come forward, and solve
1407
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:56,680
the murder of Charlie Anderson.
1408
01:12:00,183 --> 01:12:02,251
Charlie Anderson was
a 14-year veteran
1409
01:12:02,352 --> 01:12:04,888
of the Los Angeles County
Sheriff's Department.
1410
01:12:08,992 --> 01:12:11,928
He distinguished himself as a
highly skilled driver, teaching
1411
01:12:12,028 --> 01:12:13,563
hundreds of officers
how to handle
1412
01:12:13,663 --> 01:12:18,868
themselves in their vehicles
in dangerous situations.
1413
01:12:18,968 --> 01:12:22,406
Charlie was probably one
of the most talented drivers
1414
01:12:22,506 --> 01:12:24,441
that I've ever met.
1415
01:12:24,541 --> 01:12:27,977
It was a natural
talent tell for him.
1416
01:12:28,077 --> 01:12:30,079
Charlie was able to get
along with everybody.
1417
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,716
He was serious on the job.
1418
01:12:32,816 --> 01:12:34,451
But he had a good sense
of humor when he was
1419
01:12:34,551 --> 01:12:36,052
around the rest of the staff.
1420
01:12:39,456 --> 01:12:41,224
NARRATOR: By all
accounts, Charlie Anderson
1421
01:12:41,324 --> 01:12:43,493
was also a dedicated
father, never
1422
01:12:43,593 --> 01:12:47,263
too busy to spend evenings and
weekends with his two sons.
1423
01:12:47,363 --> 01:12:50,800
Charlie didn't seem to
have an enemy in the world
1424
01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:57,674
until the early hours
of January 24th, 1987.
1425
01:12:57,774 --> 01:13:00,977
Charlie's wife Beth told police
that around midnight, she,
1426
01:13:01,077 --> 01:13:04,113
Charlie, and their two young
sons returned home from a visit
1427
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:05,381
to her parents.
1428
01:13:05,482 --> 01:13:09,052
Oh, he's out like a light.
1429
01:13:09,152 --> 01:13:10,554
Well, I'll bring him upstairs.
1430
01:13:10,654 --> 01:13:14,023
And then I'll come back
for you and the babies.
1431
01:13:14,123 --> 01:13:15,592
They arrived home.
1432
01:13:15,692 --> 01:13:19,362
And because Mrs. Anderson was
suffering from a back injury,
1433
01:13:19,463 --> 01:13:21,565
her husband offered
to go inside the house
1434
01:13:21,665 --> 01:13:24,233
with her oldest boy first.
1435
01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:26,069
He asked her to wait in the car.
1436
01:13:26,169 --> 01:13:28,738
And she did so.
1437
01:13:28,838 --> 01:13:33,443
Charlie Anderson went in the
house with the oldest son,
1438
01:13:33,543 --> 01:13:34,678
and we believe
took him upstairs.
1439
01:13:37,781 --> 01:13:39,282
A few moments
later, Mrs. Anderson
1440
01:13:39,382 --> 01:13:42,051
heard what sounded like
backfires from where
1441
01:13:42,151 --> 01:13:43,520
she was parked in the driveway.
1442
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,856
She was still seated in the car.
1443
01:13:46,956 --> 01:13:49,826
Because the sound was unusual,
she walked to the house
1444
01:13:49,926 --> 01:13:51,561
and called in to see if
there was anything wrong.
1445
01:13:57,634 --> 01:13:58,434
Charlie?
1446
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:03,840
Charlie?
1447
01:14:08,377 --> 01:14:10,213
Honey, are you up here?
1448
01:14:13,282 --> 01:14:15,652
Charlie?
1449
01:14:15,752 --> 01:14:16,920
Honey?
1450
01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:18,154
Charlie, can you hear me?
1451
01:14:23,026 --> 01:14:27,063
She ran downstairs,
picked up her younger son,
1452
01:14:27,163 --> 01:14:29,098
and ran a next door
neighbor's house.
1453
01:14:29,198 --> 01:14:30,066
Help!
1454
01:14:30,166 --> 01:14:30,967
Help!
1455
01:14:38,274 --> 01:14:41,344
Initially, the detectives
believed that the house was
1456
01:14:41,444 --> 01:14:43,747
being burglarized,
and that Mr. Anderson
1457
01:14:43,847 --> 01:14:45,782
had interrupted the
burglary, and had
1458
01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:49,185
confronted the suspects.
1459
01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:51,755
One of the things that was
not consistent with a burglary
1460
01:14:51,855 --> 01:14:55,525
was the suspect had very
carefully moved items.
1461
01:14:55,625 --> 01:14:58,494
Normally, in a burglary, the
suspects, or the burglars,
1462
01:14:58,595 --> 01:15:00,864
are working very quickly,
they'll pull out a drawer,
1463
01:15:00,964 --> 01:15:02,832
and dump the entire
drawer, just to examine
1464
01:15:02,932 --> 01:15:04,668
all the contents at once.
1465
01:15:04,768 --> 01:15:09,205
What the investigators found
was that the drawers had been
1466
01:15:09,305 --> 01:15:12,275
either pulled out partially,
or carefully pull out,
1467
01:15:12,375 --> 01:15:14,510
and maybe one item removed.
1468
01:15:14,611 --> 01:15:18,347
And they felt that that was
inconsistent with most burglary
1469
01:15:18,447 --> 01:15:19,448
scenes that they had seen.
1470
01:15:22,118 --> 01:15:23,887
NARRATOR: There were
other telltale signs
1471
01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:25,421
that the burglary
had been staged.
1472
01:15:28,491 --> 01:15:31,227
While they had
selected certain items
1473
01:15:31,327 --> 01:15:34,497
and placed them together
to be taken from the house,
1474
01:15:34,598 --> 01:15:37,133
they had overlooked other items
that were much more valuable
1475
01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:39,636
that were in plain sight.
1476
01:15:39,736 --> 01:15:42,572
This led to a second theory that
this might have been someone
1477
01:15:42,672 --> 01:15:45,474
that, perhaps, knew
Deputy Anderson that
1478
01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:46,442
confronted him and shot him.
1479
01:15:49,045 --> 01:15:50,614
NARRATOR: Charlie's
sister Trish believes
1480
01:15:50,714 --> 01:15:52,716
that is exactly what happened.
1481
01:15:52,816 --> 01:15:56,552
She was at the scene that
night, called by a neighbor.
1482
01:15:56,653 --> 01:15:59,956
But what really surprised
me was the look on his face.
1483
01:16:00,056 --> 01:16:03,793
He had a look, a
wide-eyed look, as if he'd
1484
01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:06,930
been shocked or betrayed.
1485
01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:11,901
It's something that
lingers with me today.
1486
01:16:12,001 --> 01:16:13,970
NARRATOR: Was Charlie
Anderson ambushed by someone
1487
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:17,506
he knew, someone who dressed
up a cold-blooded murder
1488
01:16:17,607 --> 01:16:21,310
to look like a random
burglary gone wrong?
1489
01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:25,014
In the end, evidence at the
crime scene was ambiguous.
1490
01:16:25,114 --> 01:16:27,116
The only identifiable
fingerprints were
1491
01:16:27,216 --> 01:16:30,086
all from members of the family.
1492
01:16:30,186 --> 01:16:33,723
Police were left with a murder
victim and virtually no leads
1493
01:16:33,823 --> 01:16:37,260
until the mysterious
phone call one day later.
1494
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,428
What you are about to
hear is a reenactment
1495
01:16:39,528 --> 01:16:41,530
of that conversation,
taken directly
1496
01:16:41,631 --> 01:16:44,668
from police transcripts.
1497
01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:45,601
Burbank Police Department.
1498
01:16:45,702 --> 01:16:46,903
May I help you?
1499
01:16:47,003 --> 01:16:50,106
MAN: Yes, may I speak to the
officer in charge, please?
1500
01:16:50,206 --> 01:16:52,676
Sure, regarding
what type of incident?
1501
01:16:52,776 --> 01:16:57,113
MAN: This is some information
that might lead to the killer
1502
01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:59,783
that shot the deputy Sheriff.
1503
01:16:59,883 --> 01:17:00,684
OK, wait a minute.
1504
01:17:00,784 --> 01:17:03,452
Hang on just a second.
1505
01:17:03,552 --> 01:17:06,222
At that time, the
investigator handling the case
1506
01:17:06,322 --> 01:17:08,024
was in the station.
1507
01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:10,894
And he was called
to the dispatch area
1508
01:17:10,994 --> 01:17:13,730
so he could speak with the
person that had called in.
1509
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:16,199
MAN: I know who
did the shooting.
1510
01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:17,801
OK, the watch
commanders on his way
1511
01:17:17,901 --> 01:17:19,936
down here to answer
the phone, OK?
1512
01:17:20,036 --> 01:17:21,738
MAN: I can't wait too long.
1513
01:17:21,838 --> 01:17:23,673
OK, here's the detective
handling the case right now.
1514
01:17:23,773 --> 01:17:26,042
Hang on, just a second.
1515
01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:28,177
Hi there, what
can I do for you?
1516
01:17:28,277 --> 01:17:29,746
MAN: Is this being recorded.
1517
01:17:29,846 --> 01:17:30,880
Yes, it is.
1518
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:33,482
MAN: I can't speak to
you if this is recorded.
1519
01:17:33,582 --> 01:17:35,819
OK, why don't I give you
the number of my office
1520
01:17:35,919 --> 01:17:37,253
where it is not recorded?
1521
01:17:37,353 --> 01:17:38,487
I'm not going to lie to you, OK?
1522
01:17:38,587 --> 01:17:39,789
MAN: I don't like recordings.
1523
01:17:39,889 --> 01:17:41,657
The man on the line
was very, very nervous.
1524
01:17:41,758 --> 01:17:44,460
He was very concerned about
his voice being taped,
1525
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,497
about the call being traced,
or in any way the police
1526
01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:50,366
identifying who he was.
1527
01:17:50,466 --> 01:17:52,368
MAN: I'm not playing around.
1528
01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:55,504
NARRATOR: The call could not be
routed to an unrecorded line.
1529
01:17:55,604 --> 01:17:57,306
The detective had
to ask the witness
1530
01:17:57,406 --> 01:17:59,108
to hang up and call again.
1531
01:17:59,208 --> 01:18:00,276
OK, well as I
said, you're going
1532
01:18:00,376 --> 01:18:01,477
to have to give me
about two minutes
1533
01:18:01,577 --> 01:18:02,445
to get back to my office.
1534
01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:03,546
MAN: All right.
1535
01:18:03,646 --> 01:18:04,480
OK.
1536
01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:06,115
NARRATOR: The man
readily agreed.
1537
01:18:06,215 --> 01:18:07,784
But the phone call never came.
1538
01:18:13,723 --> 01:18:17,093
On January 31st,
1987, Charlie Anderson
1539
01:18:17,193 --> 01:18:20,363
was laid to rest with the full
honors reserved for officers
1540
01:18:20,463 --> 01:18:22,365
killed in the line of duty.
1541
01:18:22,465 --> 01:18:25,769
Since then, lack of evidence
has dragged the investigation
1542
01:18:25,869 --> 01:18:27,904
to a standstill.
1543
01:18:28,004 --> 01:18:31,007
Seven years after the
murder of Charlie Anderson,
1544
01:18:31,107 --> 01:18:33,910
authorities are still searching
for the unidentified caller.
1545
01:18:39,282 --> 01:18:40,516
We feel it's
very, very important
1546
01:18:40,616 --> 01:18:42,819
to locate this
caller, because he
1547
01:18:42,919 --> 01:18:45,354
was concerned enough to call
us right at the beginning
1548
01:18:45,454 --> 01:18:46,956
of the investigation.
1549
01:18:47,056 --> 01:18:48,925
He has never been identified.
1550
01:18:49,025 --> 01:18:50,526
And we're very, very
interested in speaking
1551
01:18:50,626 --> 01:18:54,430
to him to find out what he
does know about this case.
1552
01:18:54,530 --> 01:18:56,399
[music playing]
1553
01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:09,745
NARRATOR: Next, a woman's
search for her birth parents
1554
01:19:09,846 --> 01:19:13,749
draws her into the exotic
world of a traveling carnival.
1555
01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:15,718
[music playing]
1556
01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,962
NARRATOR: For most of us,
a night at the carnival
1557
01:19:26,062 --> 01:19:29,032
offers thrills, chills, and
an old-fashioned good time.
1558
01:19:32,201 --> 01:19:35,238
But for Brenda Abbey, a
45-year-old mother of three
1559
01:19:35,338 --> 01:19:37,506
from Chester,
Virginia, this frenzied
1560
01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:39,843
magic promises much more--
1561
01:19:39,943 --> 01:19:45,381
the solution to her own
personal, unsolved mystery.
1562
01:19:45,481 --> 01:19:47,583
Brenda was adopted as an infant.
1563
01:19:47,683 --> 01:19:49,986
She knows little about
her biological parents,
1564
01:19:50,086 --> 01:19:52,555
except their names, and that
they worked for the Setlin
1565
01:19:52,655 --> 01:19:57,360
and Wilson Traveling
Carnival almost 50 years ago.
1566
01:19:57,460 --> 01:20:00,563
Every time I hear the news
that there's a carnival,
1567
01:20:00,663 --> 01:20:02,265
I will go.
1568
01:20:02,365 --> 01:20:07,370
And I go up to every
booth, every concession.
1569
01:20:07,470 --> 01:20:09,939
I go up to every person that's
employed by that carnival.
1570
01:20:10,039 --> 01:20:13,609
And I look at them, just
to see if I can find
1571
01:20:13,709 --> 01:20:16,779
somebody that looks like me.
1572
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,115
NARRATOR: In April
of 1949, Brenda
1573
01:20:19,215 --> 01:20:24,253
was adopted by Sam and Thelma
Zimmer of Petersburg, Virginia.
1574
01:20:24,353 --> 01:20:26,489
When she was 16,
Brenda found out
1575
01:20:26,589 --> 01:20:28,557
that her birth parents
had been with the Setlin
1576
01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:31,294
and Wilson carnival.
1577
01:20:31,394 --> 01:20:35,598
In 1983, Brenda developed
a serious health problem.
1578
01:20:35,698 --> 01:20:38,567
Because of her acute need
for a family medical history,
1579
01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:40,503
Virginia officials
released a copy
1580
01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:44,007
of Brenda's birth certificate.
1581
01:20:44,107 --> 01:20:46,075
Her biological
parents were Elizabeth
1582
01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:49,145
Hanson and Walter Dean Perry.
1583
01:20:49,245 --> 01:20:52,681
Brenda was stunned to
learn she had two siblings.
1584
01:20:52,781 --> 01:20:55,151
But for Brenda's search,
the most important clue was
1585
01:20:55,251 --> 01:20:58,187
her birth father's occupation.
1586
01:20:58,287 --> 01:21:01,857
My father was a representative
of the Midget Review.
1587
01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:06,495
Possibly, my father
was a barker,
1588
01:21:06,595 --> 01:21:07,796
where he goes out there.
1589
01:21:07,897 --> 01:21:09,665
And he tries to get
people to come here to see
1590
01:21:09,765 --> 01:21:11,935
the midgets and their show.
1591
01:21:12,035 --> 01:21:13,502
You're going to
regret it tomorrow.
1592
01:21:13,602 --> 01:21:14,870
This show stars--
1593
01:21:14,971 --> 01:21:17,873
NARRATOR: The pieces of the
puzzle were falling into place.
1594
01:21:17,974 --> 01:21:19,542
Brenda set out to
find everything
1595
01:21:19,642 --> 01:21:24,180
she could on the Setlin
and Wilson Carnival.
1596
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,152
I looked in the
newspapers back in 1948.
1597
01:21:29,252 --> 01:21:31,287
And I did come across
the announcements
1598
01:21:31,387 --> 01:21:33,422
of Setlin and Wilson.
1599
01:21:33,522 --> 01:21:35,925
And I found a group
of midgets that
1600
01:21:36,025 --> 01:21:38,594
were called Singers Midgets.
1601
01:21:38,694 --> 01:21:41,097
And I know the whole library
heard me, because I said
1602
01:21:41,197 --> 01:21:42,365
I found them, I found them.
1603
01:21:45,935 --> 01:21:48,504
Finally, Brenda Abbey
had a tangible clue.
1604
01:21:48,604 --> 01:21:51,440
And it led straight to
the carnival circuit.
1605
01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:53,476
Last month, we joined
Brenda in Virginia
1606
01:21:53,576 --> 01:21:56,179
to experience her
search first hand,
1607
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,514
the excitement of
each promising lead,
1608
01:21:58,614 --> 01:22:02,585
and the heartache of near
misses and dead ends.
1609
01:22:02,685 --> 01:22:07,390
How long have you
been with the carnival?
1610
01:22:07,490 --> 01:22:10,559
NARRATOR: Brenda visits every
carnival that passes within 200
1611
01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:12,761
miles of her home town.
1612
01:22:12,861 --> 01:22:14,263
Are they with the carnival?
1613
01:22:14,363 --> 01:22:15,931
No, nobody but me.
1614
01:22:16,032 --> 01:22:18,467
I'm the black sheep.
1615
01:22:18,567 --> 01:22:21,737
NARRATOR: Old-timers like Joe
Stevenson, a 60-year veteran
1616
01:22:21,837 --> 01:22:23,872
of the carnival,
offer rare glimpses
1617
01:22:23,973 --> 01:22:26,909
into a strange and exotic world.
1618
01:22:27,010 --> 01:22:30,079
Do you remember if this woman
had been pregnant at the time?
1619
01:22:30,179 --> 01:22:35,284
We made up a language,
just vowels switched around.
1620
01:22:35,384 --> 01:22:41,390
Like you got here, light liz
light, keyazamera, camera, Joe,
1621
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:43,126
Jee-zo.
1622
01:22:43,226 --> 01:22:46,762
I could say loozooki izat mezan.
1623
01:22:46,862 --> 01:22:48,031
You don't know
what I'm speaking.
1624
01:22:48,131 --> 01:22:49,898
I said, look at that man.
1625
01:22:49,999 --> 01:22:52,568
We're speaking what
is known as carny.
1626
01:22:52,668 --> 01:22:56,505
Well, I worked sometimes
as the alligator girl.
1627
01:22:56,605 --> 01:23:00,043
I worked as the world's
strangest mother.
1628
01:23:00,143 --> 01:23:04,080
And I had to go up on a
stage, and talk to the public.
1629
01:23:04,180 --> 01:23:06,015
A lot of them had
to live in wagons,
1630
01:23:06,115 --> 01:23:08,517
and underneath wagons,
and things like that,
1631
01:23:08,617 --> 01:23:10,186
in the old days.
1632
01:23:10,286 --> 01:23:11,554
They don't do that today.
1633
01:23:11,654 --> 01:23:14,423
But they used to have
to do it, because they
1634
01:23:14,523 --> 01:23:16,192
didn't make enough.
1635
01:23:16,292 --> 01:23:18,061
Hopefully, I'm going
to ring a bell one
1636
01:23:18,161 --> 01:23:19,695
day with one of these people.
1637
01:23:19,795 --> 01:23:24,867
And they're going to know my
parents, simply by what I tell
1638
01:23:24,967 --> 01:23:27,836
them about the Midget Review.
1639
01:23:27,936 --> 01:23:30,239
They might remember somebody.
1640
01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:31,674
But this is what I do.
1641
01:23:31,774 --> 01:23:35,111
I keep hoping that somebody in
the carnival that's old enough
1642
01:23:35,211 --> 01:23:38,013
to remember will remember.
1643
01:23:38,114 --> 01:23:42,351
They're the original Singer
Midgets, because he's Carl.
1644
01:23:42,451 --> 01:23:43,386
I remember him.
1645
01:23:43,486 --> 01:23:46,055
He was the tuba
player in the band.
1646
01:23:46,155 --> 01:23:47,656
They had the smallest
midget in the world.
1647
01:23:47,756 --> 01:23:48,557
What was her name?
1648
01:23:48,657 --> 01:23:50,025
Do you remember?
1649
01:23:50,126 --> 01:23:51,960
They never brought
her out on the front.
1650
01:23:52,061 --> 01:23:52,995
You paid extra.
1651
01:23:53,096 --> 01:23:54,363
Yeah, she's right there.
1652
01:23:54,463 --> 01:23:55,764
That was Margie.
1653
01:23:55,864 --> 01:23:58,334
Margie, that's it.
1654
01:23:58,434 --> 01:24:01,937
This is the group I tell
you about that had the cook.
1655
01:24:02,037 --> 01:24:04,740
And she remembered the
lady's name like I do.
1656
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,075
But the only thing we know--
1657
01:24:06,175 --> 01:24:07,810
NARRATOR: For a
brief instant, Brenda
1658
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:09,545
thought Joe and the
others had actually
1659
01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:13,116
known her birth mother.
1660
01:24:13,216 --> 01:24:16,885
Was she 20, 24?
Was she young?
1661
01:24:16,985 --> 01:24:19,555
She was a woman
then, wasn't she?
1662
01:24:19,655 --> 01:24:20,823
She was old.
1663
01:24:20,923 --> 01:24:23,326
He doesn't feel that she
could have been my mother,
1664
01:24:23,426 --> 01:24:24,693
because her age
would have made her--
1665
01:24:24,793 --> 01:24:27,763
he said, he was just joking,
he said 2,000 years old by now.
1666
01:24:27,863 --> 01:24:29,532
So it definitely could
not have have been mother.
1667
01:24:29,632 --> 01:24:32,601
My mother was supposedly
24 when she had me.
1668
01:24:35,604 --> 01:24:38,073
But Joe said that,
quite possibly,
1669
01:24:38,174 --> 01:24:41,277
it might be Mama Li's daughter.
1670
01:24:41,377 --> 01:24:44,280
But there, again, who knows?
1671
01:24:44,380 --> 01:24:46,215
And that's another avenue
I'll have to travel.
1672
01:24:49,218 --> 01:24:51,220
It was a Singer's--
MAN: Let me ask you first.
1673
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,755
What year were you born?
1674
01:24:52,855 --> 01:24:54,923
That would have been on
the birth certificate.
1675
01:24:55,023 --> 01:24:58,427
OK, 1949.
1676
01:24:58,527 --> 01:25:01,164
NARRATOR: Brenda didn't
cover one exciting lead--
1677
01:25:01,264 --> 01:25:03,132
the phone number
for a man named Ward
1678
01:25:03,232 --> 01:25:06,935
Hall, a prominent booking agent
for east coast carnival side
1679
01:25:07,035 --> 01:25:08,337
shows.
1680
01:25:08,437 --> 01:25:12,708
We were there when
Brenda called him.
1681
01:25:12,808 --> 01:25:16,779
Ward Hall knew carnival people
going back some 50 years.
1682
01:25:16,879 --> 01:25:21,317
But he had never heard of
Brenda's birth parents.
1683
01:25:21,417 --> 01:25:23,186
I really thought
he was my answer.
1684
01:25:23,286 --> 01:25:24,253
I really did.
1685
01:25:24,353 --> 01:25:26,822
I had a lot of faith
in that phone call.
1686
01:25:26,922 --> 01:25:29,425
And I'm a little disappointed.
1687
01:25:29,525 --> 01:25:31,126
I really am, not
because he couldn't
1688
01:25:31,227 --> 01:25:33,462
give me the answer I wanted.
1689
01:25:33,562 --> 01:25:36,532
But just because
he didn't have it.
1690
01:25:36,632 --> 01:25:41,337
We're going over to the
Department of Social services
1691
01:25:41,437 --> 01:25:42,838
in Richmond.
1692
01:25:42,938 --> 01:25:49,412
And over there, they have
identifying information.
1693
01:25:49,512 --> 01:25:51,614
NARRATOR: Just before
we travel to Virginia,
1694
01:25:51,714 --> 01:25:53,782
a judge had granted
Brenda access
1695
01:25:53,882 --> 01:25:57,420
to her sealed adoption papers.
1696
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,788
We were not allowed to
film in the archives.
1697
01:25:59,888 --> 01:26:03,192
But our cameras were on
hand when Brenda emerged.
1698
01:26:03,292 --> 01:26:05,928
The documents finally revealed
where her birth parents
1699
01:26:06,028 --> 01:26:08,397
had gone after the adoption.
1700
01:26:08,497 --> 01:26:09,765
I got it.
1701
01:26:09,865 --> 01:26:10,666
Alaska.
1702
01:26:13,001 --> 01:26:14,837
And it's all the
identifying information
1703
01:26:14,937 --> 01:26:16,372
filled in, everything.
1704
01:26:19,208 --> 01:26:20,376
And there's two different names.
1705
01:26:23,412 --> 01:26:25,047
I've got a WL Perry.
1706
01:26:25,147 --> 01:26:27,483
And then I have a WD Perry.
1707
01:26:27,583 --> 01:26:29,418
They say it could be
a typographical error,
1708
01:26:29,518 --> 01:26:31,354
but maybe not.
1709
01:26:31,454 --> 01:26:32,521
They're just not sure.
1710
01:26:39,495 --> 01:26:41,264
NARRATOR: Despite the
information in the adoption
1711
01:26:41,364 --> 01:26:44,467
records, it turns out that
the Setlin and Wilson Carnival
1712
01:26:44,567 --> 01:26:48,437
never once traveled to
Alaska, nor has Brenda
1713
01:26:48,537 --> 01:26:51,173
found any evidence that
her biological parents
1714
01:26:51,274 --> 01:26:54,377
moved to Alaska on their own.
1715
01:26:54,477 --> 01:26:56,412
Perhaps the next
carnival will yield
1716
01:26:56,512 --> 01:26:59,282
the clue that finally leads
Brenda to her birth parents.
1717
01:27:02,418 --> 01:27:06,589
I want to find my parents
and my siblings more
1718
01:27:06,689 --> 01:27:09,558
than anything in the world.
1719
01:27:09,658 --> 01:27:13,296
I want to tell my
mother before she dies,
1720
01:27:13,396 --> 01:27:16,965
I don't think she
did anything wrong.
1721
01:27:17,065 --> 01:27:20,035
I think she did
what she had to do.
1722
01:27:20,135 --> 01:27:23,005
And I really can understand it.
1723
01:27:23,105 --> 01:27:24,773
I have a heart big
enough to understand it.
1724
01:27:30,313 --> 01:27:31,847
NARRATOR: Update--
during a search
1725
01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:33,849
that spanned 30
years, Brenda talked
1726
01:27:33,949 --> 01:27:35,250
with countless old timers.
1727
01:27:38,954 --> 01:27:42,691
Each had a story to tell, and
some even offered suggestions.
1728
01:27:42,791 --> 01:27:44,860
But not one claimed
to know Elizabeth
1729
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,331
Hanson or Walter Perry.
1730
01:27:48,431 --> 01:27:51,334
Inevitably, as each carnival
was packing up and hitting
1731
01:27:51,434 --> 01:27:54,770
the road, Brenda Abbey
was left behind, no closer
1732
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:58,006
to finding her birth parents.
1733
01:27:58,106 --> 01:28:00,809
It seemed she might
finally be out of options
1734
01:28:00,909 --> 01:28:02,878
until the night
of our broadcast.
1735
01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:11,086
The response was far greater
than even Brenda had hoped for.
1736
01:28:11,186 --> 01:28:13,789
Not only did her birth mother
called our phone center,
1737
01:28:13,889 --> 01:28:18,193
but so did a sister, and a
brother, then another sister.
1738
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:20,463
Additional calls were
logged in from friends
1739
01:28:20,563 --> 01:28:21,764
of still more siblings.
1740
01:28:25,334 --> 01:28:27,169
Brenda Abbey was saddened
to learn that her birth
1741
01:28:27,269 --> 01:28:29,705
father had died in 1959.
1742
01:28:29,805 --> 01:28:31,674
But she was thrilled
to discover a total
1743
01:28:31,774 --> 01:28:34,142
of 11 brothers and sisters.
1744
01:28:34,242 --> 01:28:36,979
One of them, Martha Oak, of
St. Clair Shores Michigan,
1745
01:28:37,079 --> 01:28:40,716
hosted a reunion
in August of 1994.
1746
01:28:40,816 --> 01:28:43,652
Although Brenda's birth
mother was unable to attend,
1747
01:28:43,752 --> 01:28:46,489
Brenda finally met four of her
long lost brothers and sisters
1748
01:28:46,589 --> 01:28:47,756
face to face.
1749
01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:56,164
As hostess for the
celebration, Martha was
1750
01:28:56,264 --> 01:28:58,033
the first to welcome Brenda.
1751
01:28:58,133 --> 01:29:00,803
Hi, Brenda.
1752
01:29:00,903 --> 01:29:03,105
How you doing?
1753
01:29:03,205 --> 01:29:05,408
NARRATOR: A brother,
Thomas Chillag,
1754
01:29:05,508 --> 01:29:13,281
flew in from Louisiana,
1,000 miles away.
1755
01:29:13,382 --> 01:29:15,384
Another sister,
Susan Donar, came
1756
01:29:15,484 --> 01:29:17,019
in from Port Clinton, Ohio.
1757
01:29:24,192 --> 01:29:26,194
Brenda's brother,
Frank Smith, grew up
1758
01:29:26,294 --> 01:29:27,963
in Greenwood, Mississippi.
1759
01:29:28,063 --> 01:29:33,068
Like Brenda, he never imagined
he had so many siblings.
1760
01:29:33,168 --> 01:29:37,873
I did my own search, and
kept running into dead ends,
1761
01:29:37,973 --> 01:29:40,943
and finally gave up.
1762
01:29:41,043 --> 01:29:44,913
And when I found out about
this, it was incredible.
1763
01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:45,981
It's amazing.
1764
01:29:46,081 --> 01:29:49,284
It's unbelievable,
totally unbelievable.
1765
01:29:49,384 --> 01:29:51,520
It's funny to actually
walk up to people,
1766
01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:57,159
and touch their skin,
and know they're related.
1767
01:29:57,259 --> 01:29:59,361
NARRATOR: The get together
in Michigan promises
1768
01:29:59,462 --> 01:30:01,163
to be just the first of many.
1769
01:30:06,168 --> 01:30:10,673
Plans are already underway
for the next reunion.
1770
01:30:10,773 --> 01:30:12,140
These are my flesh and blood.
1771
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,809
And it's something nobody
can take away from me.
1772
01:30:13,909 --> 01:30:15,243
That's right.
1773
01:30:15,343 --> 01:30:19,047
And it's such a great feeling.
1774
01:30:19,147 --> 01:30:23,652
It was worth the 30 years
that it took me to do this.
1775
01:30:26,722 --> 01:30:30,058
[music playing]
1776
01:30:48,343 --> 01:30:50,813
In just a few weeks,
an exciting new season
1777
01:30:50,913 --> 01:30:53,448
of "Unsolved
Mysteries" will begin.
1778
01:30:53,549 --> 01:30:56,184
Here's a sampling.
1779
01:30:56,284 --> 01:30:59,622
In the late 1960s, thousands
of curiosity seekers
1780
01:30:59,722 --> 01:31:01,957
flocked to see the Iceman.
1781
01:31:02,057 --> 01:31:07,462
Was it a hoax, or perhaps a
prehistoric cousin of man?
1782
01:31:07,563 --> 01:31:10,699
Novelist Agatha Christie
was a queen of mystery.
1783
01:31:10,799 --> 01:31:15,103
But how many of us know that in
1926 Agatha took center stage
1784
01:31:15,203 --> 01:31:18,574
in her own real life mystery?
1785
01:31:18,674 --> 01:31:24,312
21-year-old Tommy Burkett died
in 1991, an apparent suicide.
1786
01:31:24,412 --> 01:31:27,550
Now, his parents have pieced
together a shocking scenario
1787
01:31:27,650 --> 01:31:30,586
of murder and intrigue.
1788
01:31:30,686 --> 01:31:32,888
From the realm of
the unexplained,
1789
01:31:32,988 --> 01:31:34,857
a bolt of lightning
sends a young man
1790
01:31:34,957 --> 01:31:39,895
on an incredible journey to
the brink of death and back.
1791
01:31:39,995 --> 01:31:42,565
And follow a team of
real life ghostbusters,
1792
01:31:42,665 --> 01:31:45,400
as they track down an
elusive spirit in a haunted
1793
01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:49,371
hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
1794
01:31:49,471 --> 01:31:51,807
Join me, starting
later in September,
1795
01:31:51,907 --> 01:31:55,911
for four special Sunday
broadcasts, and then in October
1796
01:31:56,011 --> 01:32:00,115
during our new time,
Fridays at 8:00.
1797
01:32:00,215 --> 01:32:02,851
[music playing]
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