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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:02,670 [music playing] 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,408 ANNOUNCER: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 3 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,443 Whenever possible, the actual family members 4 00:00:09,543 --> 00:00:11,345 and police officials have participated 5 00:00:11,445 --> 00:00:12,980 in recreating the events. 6 00:00:13,081 --> 00:00:15,283 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 7 00:00:20,554 --> 00:00:22,990 Recently, we were astonished to discover that according 8 00:00:23,091 --> 00:00:26,727 to one medical researcher, 50% of all Americans 9 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:28,196 who have lost a loved one say they 10 00:00:28,296 --> 00:00:29,997 have later been visited by that loved 11 00:00:30,098 --> 00:00:33,734 one from beyond the grave. 12 00:00:33,834 --> 00:00:36,670 After her husband, John, died, Patti Eggleston 13 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:39,340 insists that on several occasions he appeared to her 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,610 and endowed her with the strength to carry on. 15 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:47,515 In 1984, 18-year-old Paige Roark left home for an evening out. 16 00:00:47,615 --> 00:00:50,884 Six hours later, she was killed by a drunk driver. 17 00:00:50,984 --> 00:00:53,987 Incredibly, Paige's mother and grandmother both claim they 18 00:00:54,088 --> 00:00:56,190 were visited by Paige's spirit. 19 00:00:56,290 --> 00:01:01,462 Hallucination, or a remarkable, unexplained phenomenon? 20 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:04,098 When a nurse named Kathleen Belcher began talking 21 00:01:04,198 --> 00:01:06,400 to her mother about blood types, she never 22 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:08,569 dreamed the conversation would spring the lock 23 00:01:08,669 --> 00:01:10,171 on a deeply held secret-- 24 00:01:10,271 --> 00:01:12,740 her mother's post World War II romance 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,611 and the true identity of Kathleen's biological father. 26 00:01:17,711 --> 00:01:20,548 Join me for these fascinating stories. 27 00:01:20,648 --> 00:01:23,817 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 28 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:26,820 [theme music] 29 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:23,177 What happens beyond the grave, when life is over? 30 00:02:23,277 --> 00:02:25,078 Despite a myriad of religious beliefs, 31 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:28,716 there seems to be one surprising area of consensus. 32 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,818 According to a noted medical researcher, 33 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:33,854 7 out of 10 widows and widowers in the United States 34 00:02:33,954 --> 00:02:35,323 report that their spouses have come 35 00:02:35,423 --> 00:02:37,925 back to visit them after death. 36 00:02:38,025 --> 00:02:41,028 Hallucination, or does the bond of matrimony 37 00:02:41,128 --> 00:02:42,162 transcend the grave? 38 00:02:46,033 --> 00:02:51,339 January 28, 1989, John and Patti Eggleston, along with their two 39 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:53,907 young sons, Johnny and Chris, were packing up 40 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:56,544 after a day of skiing. 41 00:02:56,644 --> 00:03:01,949 Ahead lay a 70-mile drive to their home in a Seattle suburb. 42 00:03:02,049 --> 00:03:05,786 Everything was calm, routine, normal. 43 00:03:05,886 --> 00:03:07,288 OK, guys, as soon as we get home, 44 00:03:07,388 --> 00:03:08,522 I want you right in bed, OK? 45 00:03:08,622 --> 00:03:09,590 OK. 46 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:11,259 Honey, they'll be sound asleep before we 47 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:12,326 ever pull in the driveway. 48 00:03:12,426 --> 00:03:13,627 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Then, disaster. 49 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:19,833 [crashing] 50 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:26,240 The Eggleston's car careened off this bridge 51 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:29,209 and plummeted into the river below, a freefall 52 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:32,880 of more than 80 feet. 53 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:34,315 It was pitch dark. 54 00:03:34,415 --> 00:03:37,251 The car rapidly filled with icy water. 55 00:03:37,351 --> 00:03:39,620 Patti Eggleston was badly injured. 56 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,722 Yet at the moment she might have panicked, 57 00:03:41,822 --> 00:03:45,893 Patti was suffused with an inexplicable calm. 58 00:03:45,993 --> 00:03:48,329 I had this feeling come through me 59 00:03:48,429 --> 00:03:54,935 and fill me and fill every pore, every cell of my being 60 00:03:55,035 --> 00:03:58,138 with warmth and love. 61 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:02,109 It was pure love, and it was guidance. 62 00:04:02,209 --> 00:04:07,648 And that feeling gave me the knowledge and the strength 63 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:10,384 to do what I needed to do next. 64 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:11,552 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Patti did 65 00:04:11,652 --> 00:04:13,387 not at first realize that her husband, 66 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:15,523 John, had died on impact. 67 00:04:15,623 --> 00:04:18,392 But she came to believe that it was John's spirit, even 68 00:04:18,492 --> 00:04:22,296 after death, which inspired her, gave her the strength to break 69 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:25,666 free and rescue her boys. 70 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:28,569 Johnny and Christopher were saved by the heroic efforts 71 00:04:28,669 --> 00:04:30,971 of their mother and a brave passerby who 72 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,506 plunged into the river to help. 73 00:04:36,243 --> 00:04:38,078 After a brief stay in the hospital, 74 00:04:38,178 --> 00:04:42,483 Patti Eggleston returned home and struggled to be strong. 75 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:44,852 Patti says that when things seemed bleakest, 76 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:47,921 she once again sensed John's spirit. 77 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:51,559 At first it was at night, in the bedroom. 78 00:04:51,659 --> 00:04:55,429 I was woken up from a sound sleep with the feeling 79 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:58,131 that John had just been there. 80 00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:00,368 I could feel him. 81 00:05:00,468 --> 00:05:02,570 I could smell him. 82 00:05:02,670 --> 00:05:07,174 I could feel where he was in the bed. 83 00:05:07,274 --> 00:05:10,611 The only sensation I didn't have was visual. 84 00:05:10,711 --> 00:05:12,413 I did not see him. 85 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:16,149 Every other part of it I felt and experienced. 86 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:18,819 And it was not a dream. 87 00:05:18,919 --> 00:05:21,455 It was too real to be a dream. 88 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:25,759 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Eventually, 89 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:27,795 a Seattle physician, Melvin Morse, 90 00:05:27,895 --> 00:05:30,097 heard about Patti Eggleston. 91 00:05:30,197 --> 00:05:33,233 Dr. Morse has documented hundreds of after-death visits 92 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,035 and believes that such visits actually 93 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:37,438 happen, that they are not simply the product 94 00:05:37,538 --> 00:05:40,874 of overactive imaginations. 95 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:43,677 I feel that the fact that these experiences are 96 00:05:43,777 --> 00:05:47,080 emotionally dynamic, that they help to heal grief, 97 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:50,851 and that people learn from them are a powerful piece 98 00:05:50,951 --> 00:05:53,220 of circumstantial evidence-- and I grant 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,888 that it's circumstantial-- 100 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:57,658 but a powerful piece of circumstantial evidence 101 00:05:57,758 --> 00:06:00,994 that that experience is at least as real 102 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:04,598 as any other human experience. 103 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:06,366 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): For Patti, John's presence 104 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:08,836 became more and more real. 105 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:11,071 Finally, he appeared in bodily form. 106 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:13,507 PATTI: I was sitting in my living room 107 00:06:13,607 --> 00:06:14,675 and had the lights on. 108 00:06:14,775 --> 00:06:17,177 And I was sitting on the couch, reading a book. 109 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:20,948 I just kind of glanced up, and John was there. 110 00:06:21,048 --> 00:06:24,284 I couldn't touch him, but I could see him. 111 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:25,986 And he started communicating to me. 112 00:06:26,086 --> 00:06:27,655 And I say communicating because he 113 00:06:27,755 --> 00:06:30,558 was not talking with his lips. 114 00:06:30,658 --> 00:06:33,427 SPIRIT: I think Johnny is beginning to feel better. 115 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:34,895 I think so, too. 116 00:06:34,995 --> 00:06:36,129 PATTI: But it was a conversation. 117 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:38,065 It was a two-way conversation. 118 00:06:38,165 --> 00:06:39,132 He was talking to me. 119 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:40,701 I was talking to him. 120 00:06:40,801 --> 00:06:43,370 I don't know if I can do this alone. 121 00:06:43,471 --> 00:06:45,873 SPIRIT: I'm here to tell you that you can. 122 00:06:45,973 --> 00:06:49,242 There a reason you survived. 123 00:06:49,342 --> 00:06:51,479 Remember to trust. 124 00:06:51,579 --> 00:06:54,247 You'll always know what to do. 125 00:06:54,347 --> 00:06:55,583 Thank you. 126 00:06:55,683 --> 00:06:57,417 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Patti says that John's visits 127 00:06:57,518 --> 00:07:01,054 continued for nearly a year. 128 00:07:01,154 --> 00:07:04,157 Looking back, I know it was-- 129 00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,828 he didn't come any more after I had gotten my life together. 130 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:08,729 I was OK. 131 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:11,031 I was truly OK. 132 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:12,232 Things were still rough. 133 00:07:12,332 --> 00:07:13,834 I was still hurting. 134 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:18,839 But I had gained enough strength, personal strength, 135 00:07:18,939 --> 00:07:20,908 that I could go on without him. 136 00:07:21,008 --> 00:07:23,276 And he wasn't there anymore. 137 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:28,616 Despite Patti Eggleston's obvious sincerity, 138 00:07:28,716 --> 00:07:31,552 her experience could be written off as a spouse's grief-induced 139 00:07:31,652 --> 00:07:33,220 hallucination. 140 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,255 But widows and widowers are not the only ones 141 00:07:35,355 --> 00:07:37,357 who report after-death visits. 142 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:40,728 In fact, some studies claim that more than 50% of the population 143 00:07:40,828 --> 00:07:43,030 has experienced this phenomenon. 144 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:45,465 Many are afraid to talk about it openly, 145 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:47,801 but the family of 18-year-old Paige Roark 146 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:49,136 agreed to share their story. 147 00:07:52,606 --> 00:07:54,274 CYNTHIA ROARK: Paige was our baby. 148 00:07:54,374 --> 00:07:57,377 And we were just so pleased to have her. 149 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:00,581 She was a fun child. 150 00:08:00,681 --> 00:08:05,018 She loved people, even from when she was a little girl. 151 00:08:05,118 --> 00:08:08,789 There was a sparkle in her eyes and in her demeanor. 152 00:08:08,889 --> 00:08:11,224 Bye, mom. 153 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:14,094 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the afternoon of April 14, 1984, 154 00:08:14,194 --> 00:08:16,363 Paige Colleen Roark left her house 155 00:08:16,463 --> 00:08:19,266 in Fall Brook, California, for an outing with friends. 156 00:08:19,366 --> 00:08:20,668 Forget something? 157 00:08:23,971 --> 00:08:25,038 I love you, Mom. 158 00:08:25,138 --> 00:08:25,939 I love you, too. 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,388 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Six hours 160 00:08:41,488 --> 00:08:43,624 later, Paige Roark was dead. 161 00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:46,827 She and one of her friends had been killed when a drunk driver 162 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:47,995 smashed into their car. 163 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:53,634 CYNTHIA ROARK: I have never felt so helpless and hopeless 164 00:08:53,734 --> 00:08:56,336 and out of control in my life. 165 00:08:56,436 --> 00:09:00,373 It was as though my heart was crushed. 166 00:09:00,473 --> 00:09:04,411 You can't see the scars on me because they're inside. 167 00:09:04,511 --> 00:09:08,381 It's almost as if I've marked my life from the moment 168 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:10,050 I was told that she was dead. 169 00:09:13,353 --> 00:09:14,554 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Cynthia tried 170 00:09:14,655 --> 00:09:16,724 to escape her grief by running. 171 00:09:16,824 --> 00:09:19,927 It was an activity for which she and Paige had a shared passion. 172 00:09:22,596 --> 00:09:24,665 Two days after the crash, Cynthia 173 00:09:24,765 --> 00:09:28,168 left her house at 5:00 AM. 174 00:09:28,268 --> 00:09:30,503 She ran for more than an hour. 175 00:09:30,604 --> 00:09:34,374 Then as dawn was breaking-- 176 00:09:34,474 --> 00:09:36,977 CYNTHIA ROARK: I was coming back towards home, 177 00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:41,649 and there were rays of sunshine coming down through the trees. 178 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:43,483 And they were beautiful. 179 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:44,918 I stopped. 180 00:09:45,018 --> 00:09:48,321 And, you know, I looked up into that light, and I was blinded. 181 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:51,258 It was like it was just white. 182 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:53,460 And then I heard Paige. 183 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:57,030 SPIRIT: I'm OK, Mom. 184 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:59,432 I can see through that light. 185 00:09:59,532 --> 00:10:02,569 I'm with the Lord, and I'm OK. 186 00:10:02,670 --> 00:10:03,470 Paige. 187 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:12,045 CYNTHIA ROARK: I remember a feeling of joy, of peace. 188 00:10:12,145 --> 00:10:14,214 I didn't expect it. 189 00:10:14,314 --> 00:10:17,184 I didn't try to have it happen. 190 00:10:17,284 --> 00:10:22,322 I feel that at the point I was, I was extremely, 191 00:10:22,422 --> 00:10:24,624 extremely devastated. 192 00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:28,395 And it turned my whole thinking around at that point. 193 00:10:31,164 --> 00:10:32,399 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Later, Cynthia 194 00:10:32,499 --> 00:10:35,102 would be stunned to find out that her mother, who lived 195 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:37,537 1,000 miles away in Denver, had had 196 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:39,539 an even more vivid experience. 197 00:10:43,844 --> 00:10:44,745 I love you, Grandma. 198 00:10:51,218 --> 00:10:53,586 Paige? 199 00:10:53,687 --> 00:10:56,523 Yes. 200 00:10:56,623 --> 00:10:58,491 I'm OK. 201 00:10:58,591 --> 00:10:59,459 You are? 202 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,396 Yes, and so is Momom. 203 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:05,833 DOROTHY STERLING: And she said, I have seen Momom. 204 00:11:05,933 --> 00:11:06,934 That's my mother. 205 00:11:07,034 --> 00:11:10,237 SPIRIT: And I'm going to take care of her. 206 00:11:10,337 --> 00:11:12,405 I had never told anyone I'd had this. 207 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:15,675 I thought maybe they would think something was wrong with me. 208 00:11:15,776 --> 00:11:19,312 But it was very clear to me that I had a vision. 209 00:11:19,412 --> 00:11:20,680 I love you, Grandma. 210 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:23,751 DOROTHY STERLING: And she was just so beautiful and perfect. 211 00:11:23,851 --> 00:11:25,953 And here we were, worried about her. 212 00:11:26,053 --> 00:11:29,656 And she was comforting us all the time, comforting me. 213 00:11:29,757 --> 00:11:31,691 I'm OK. 214 00:11:31,792 --> 00:11:34,327 DOROTHY STERLING: And it was just very real. 215 00:11:34,427 --> 00:11:37,130 And I know it happened. 216 00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:38,966 I know it in my heart. 217 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:48,475 Prior to my research, these experiences have been thought 218 00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:52,512 to simply be grief-induced hallucinations, 219 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:55,448 passive fantasies of the mind, struggling 220 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:58,085 to deal with a terrible loss. 221 00:11:58,185 --> 00:11:59,719 The difference is that I'm saying 222 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:02,956 that death-related visions and post-death visitations 223 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:03,857 are real. 224 00:12:03,957 --> 00:12:05,258 They're emotionally dynamic. 225 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:07,427 We can learn things from them. 226 00:12:07,527 --> 00:12:12,933 They're actually an interaction between the person who has died 227 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:16,103 and the person who is seeing the vision. 228 00:12:16,203 --> 00:12:17,337 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr. Barry 229 00:12:17,437 --> 00:12:22,075 Beyerstein, a physiological psychologist, disagrees. 230 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:23,410 I believe these people are telling us 231 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:24,711 some very interesting things. 232 00:12:24,812 --> 00:12:27,647 I think they're telling us honest recollections 233 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,082 of what it seemed like to them. 234 00:12:29,182 --> 00:12:31,351 And so I'm interested in their experiences. 235 00:12:31,451 --> 00:12:34,621 Now I don't interpret them probably the way they do. 236 00:12:34,721 --> 00:12:38,258 I think these are things that seemed incredibly real to them, 237 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:41,161 but probably didn't exist in reality, outside the theater 238 00:12:41,261 --> 00:12:43,163 of their own minds. 239 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:47,267 I don't want to be perceived as a nut case. 240 00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:49,169 But it is important. 241 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:55,775 It's very important for people out there to hear this story, 242 00:12:55,876 --> 00:12:57,978 if it helps one person. 243 00:12:58,078 --> 00:13:00,413 And I'll share this story, and I'll 244 00:13:00,513 --> 00:13:04,852 continue to share it for whoever ever needs to hear it. 245 00:13:04,952 --> 00:13:06,253 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Is there any way 246 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:08,621 to explain what happened to the families of John 247 00:13:08,721 --> 00:13:10,190 Eggleston and Paige Roark? 248 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,358 Paige? 249 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:13,360 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Can the dead return? 250 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,328 Or are after-death visits simply the 251 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:18,331 echo of a strong, earthly love? 252 00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:20,633 Perhaps we will never know the answers. 253 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:23,036 Perhaps it does not matter. 254 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:26,573 As Albert Einstein once said, "the greatest experience 255 00:13:26,673 --> 00:13:28,942 we can have is the mysterious." 256 00:13:33,847 --> 00:13:36,649 [theme music] 257 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:44,391 On August 3, 1957, the streets around Saint Bonaventure's 258 00:13:44,491 --> 00:13:46,593 Monastery in Detroit, Michigan, swelled 259 00:13:46,693 --> 00:13:49,796 with some 10,000 mourners. 260 00:13:49,897 --> 00:13:54,868 It was one of the largest funerals in the city's history. 261 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:57,270 The inspiration for this massive outpouring 262 00:13:57,370 --> 00:14:00,740 was not the death of a powerful cardinal or archbishop, 263 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,310 but rather the passing of a humble friar 264 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:04,945 named Father Solanus Casey. 265 00:14:07,714 --> 00:14:09,983 For more than 50 years, Father Solanus 266 00:14:10,083 --> 00:14:12,419 was a church receptionist and doorman, 267 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,221 one of the lowest ranking priests 268 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:17,724 in the Catholic hierarchy. 269 00:14:17,824 --> 00:14:22,495 Father Solanus was a man who really cared for people. 270 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:26,366 And when people came to him with their worries and fears 271 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:31,171 and pains, he had a way of simply 272 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:35,442 giving them courage to live their life the way it was. 273 00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:36,876 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Those whose lives 274 00:14:36,977 --> 00:14:39,046 were touched by Father Solanus claimed that he 275 00:14:39,146 --> 00:14:41,281 said at the right hand of God. 276 00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:44,517 To them, Solanus was a miracle worker. 277 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:48,388 Even today, some still turn to Father Solanus for help 278 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:49,789 when facing a medical crisis. 279 00:14:51,658 --> 00:14:53,393 DAVID WITKOP: I do believe my prayer to Father Solanus 280 00:14:53,493 --> 00:14:55,295 was answered. 281 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:56,629 It's the first time my prayers have 282 00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:01,334 really been answered like that, in such a dramatic way. 283 00:15:01,434 --> 00:15:03,303 I'm still in awe of what had happened. 284 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:07,340 I have no other explanation for it. 285 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,410 Joanne, the mammogram was positive. 286 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:12,079 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In the fall of 1990, 287 00:15:12,179 --> 00:15:15,515 David Witkop's wife Joanne developed a lump in her breast. 288 00:15:15,615 --> 00:15:16,716 I think we should move quickly. 289 00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:19,552 I'd like to set it up as soon as possible. 290 00:15:19,652 --> 00:15:23,856 We were concerned whether this density could be a cancer. 291 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:25,558 We weren't sure what we were dealing with. 292 00:15:25,658 --> 00:15:28,628 So medically, you have to do a biopsy to see, 293 00:15:28,728 --> 00:15:30,463 is it benign or malignant? 294 00:15:33,366 --> 00:15:35,102 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): An appointment with a surgeon 295 00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:36,970 was scheduled immediately. 296 00:15:37,070 --> 00:15:39,339 When David and Joanne arrived at the hospital, 297 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,975 they happened upon a small prayer room. 298 00:15:42,075 --> 00:15:46,446 There hung a portrait of Father Solanus Casey. 299 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:48,648 I was very desperate. 300 00:15:48,748 --> 00:15:51,251 And I just prayed to Father Solanus 301 00:15:51,351 --> 00:15:53,420 that there would be no more surgery. 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,957 And I just wanted Joanne not to have this kind 303 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:02,062 of operation at all anymore. 304 00:16:02,162 --> 00:16:04,031 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Joanne was wheeled into surgery, 305 00:16:04,131 --> 00:16:07,100 and David prepared for a long, anxious wait. 306 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,001 David? 307 00:16:08,101 --> 00:16:09,536 Joanne? 308 00:16:09,636 --> 00:16:11,004 DAVID WITKOP: I looked up, and it was Joanne 309 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:13,673 out in the hallway there. 310 00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:15,175 I thought, well, maybe they're taking 311 00:16:15,275 --> 00:16:16,709 her down for surgery now. 312 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:17,677 Hello, Mr. Witkop. 313 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:18,811 Hello, Doctor. 314 00:16:18,911 --> 00:16:21,281 We did another series of x-rays on your wife. 315 00:16:21,381 --> 00:16:22,915 There's no sign of a mass. 316 00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:23,983 What does that mean? 317 00:16:24,084 --> 00:16:25,318 Well, we took another set of x-rays 318 00:16:25,418 --> 00:16:27,354 today to locate the mass for the surgery, 319 00:16:27,454 --> 00:16:29,389 but the plates were clean. 320 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:31,758 They didn't reveal any mass. It's over. 321 00:16:31,858 --> 00:16:36,596 David prayed to God that I wouldn't have surgery. 322 00:16:36,696 --> 00:16:41,501 And his prayers were answered, even though a half hour 323 00:16:41,601 --> 00:16:45,405 before it looked hopeless. 324 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:48,941 And I believe that Solanus and God saw 325 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:53,346 fit to have a healing that day. 326 00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:56,916 Miracles aren't usually things that I'm comfortable with. 327 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,318 I don't look for them. 328 00:16:58,418 --> 00:16:59,486 I don't expect them. 329 00:16:59,586 --> 00:17:02,689 I'm not a miracle worker. 330 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,258 I think Joanne believes it was a miracle, 331 00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:07,594 and that's good enough for her in my mind. 332 00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:10,797 All I know is it went away, and she's better. 333 00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:11,798 And I'm thankful for it. 334 00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:16,936 Science has coined the term spontaneous 335 00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:18,971 remission to account for sudden recoveries 336 00:17:19,072 --> 00:17:21,241 like Joanne Witkop's. 337 00:17:21,341 --> 00:17:23,476 But the faithful see her case as one more 338 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:28,047 example of the marvelous healing powers of Father Solanus Casey. 339 00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:31,384 A petition to declare Father Solanus a saint is currently 340 00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:35,688 before the Vatican, a stunning tribute to a one-time Wisconsin 341 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,857 farm boy named Bernard Casey. 342 00:17:42,329 --> 00:17:47,467 Bernard Casey was born in 1870, one of 16 brothers and sisters. 343 00:17:47,567 --> 00:17:50,002 At the age of 21, he was moved to dedicate 344 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:51,138 his life to the church. 345 00:17:57,344 --> 00:17:58,445 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Bernard 346 00:17:58,545 --> 00:18:01,148 was accepted at a seminary in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 347 00:18:01,248 --> 00:18:05,585 where classes were taught in German and Latin. 348 00:18:05,685 --> 00:18:08,087 Bernard, who had not even completed high school, 349 00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:09,356 struggled from the start. 350 00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:24,171 Bernard was ultimately asked to withdraw. 351 00:18:24,271 --> 00:18:26,306 He later enrolled in the Capuchin Seminary 352 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:29,976 in Detroit, where he was given the name, Father Solanus. 353 00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:34,247 Here, too, he floundered miserably in his studies. 354 00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:37,350 Father Solanus was one of these people who 355 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:42,255 had difficulty remembering the question and answers 356 00:18:42,355 --> 00:18:45,192 and theology and so on. 357 00:18:45,292 --> 00:18:49,296 And as a result, he never really passed all 358 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:52,399 the tests in his seminary days. 359 00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:53,866 [speaking latin] 360 00:18:58,505 --> 00:18:59,639 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Once again, 361 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:01,874 Solanus was close to failure. 362 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:03,810 But a few of his superiors recognized 363 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:07,247 his spiritual character and proposed a compromise. 364 00:19:07,347 --> 00:19:10,883 Solanus was ordained, but he was barred from hearing confession, 365 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:14,387 preaching a sermon, or teaching the doctrine, all the most 366 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:15,722 cherished duties of a priest. 367 00:19:20,059 --> 00:19:22,995 This was a rather humiliating thing, 368 00:19:23,095 --> 00:19:27,534 but I think he accepted it as God's will. 369 00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:31,037 And that act of humility then made him 370 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:32,605 more pleasing in God's sight. 371 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:35,575 And so God could work great things through him. 372 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,913 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): After his ordination in 1904, 373 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,682 Father Solanus was sent to New York. 374 00:19:45,552 --> 00:19:47,420 Father, may I have a word with you? 375 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,888 Yes, what is troubling you? 376 00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:50,590 It's my daughter, Father. 377 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:51,924 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Day in and day 378 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:53,393 out, he would greet the parishioners 379 00:19:53,493 --> 00:19:55,295 at a church in Yonkers. 380 00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:58,865 Soon, it was Father Solanus that the people came to see. 381 00:19:58,965 --> 00:20:02,034 Well, I'm afraid. 382 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:04,404 You must trust God when you pray. 383 00:20:04,504 --> 00:20:06,339 He will hear you. 384 00:20:06,439 --> 00:20:07,907 Yes. 385 00:20:08,007 --> 00:20:09,175 Yes. 386 00:20:09,276 --> 00:20:10,743 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Father Solanus served 387 00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:12,912 in New York for 20 years. 388 00:20:13,012 --> 00:20:15,348 By the time he was transferred to Saint Bonaventure's 389 00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:17,684 in Detroit, many had come to regard 390 00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:20,453 Solanus as a divine healer with the power 391 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:23,723 to intercede with God. 392 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:25,658 Oh, Doctor, thank goodness you're here. 393 00:20:25,758 --> 00:20:26,959 Now where is the boy? 394 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,295 Right upstairs. 395 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:30,062 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Perhaps the most extraordinary 396 00:20:30,162 --> 00:20:32,332 cure ascribed to Solanus came in the case 397 00:20:32,432 --> 00:20:34,834 of 12-year-old Charles Rogers. 398 00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:37,437 His sister, Helen, eight years old at the time, 399 00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:40,139 remembers vividly. 400 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:44,411 In 1935, we had the polio epidemic in Detroit. 401 00:20:44,511 --> 00:20:46,479 And at that time, my brother came down 402 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:50,016 with a severe headache and stiffness of the neck that went 403 00:20:50,116 --> 00:20:52,485 down into his arms and legs. 404 00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:56,356 And eventually, he ended up with spasms. 405 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:57,256 He would shake. 406 00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,559 His body would shake. 407 00:20:59,659 --> 00:21:00,993 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr. Ronald Aethee 408 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:03,830 was one of Detroit's top polio specialists. 409 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,399 It didn't take him long to make the diagnosis. 410 00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:10,537 What can we do? 411 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,144 Nothing, but we must get him to the hospital, tonight. 412 00:21:19,746 --> 00:21:21,414 HELEN GLEESON: Dad wouldn't hear of it right away. 413 00:21:21,514 --> 00:21:26,586 He wanted to, you know, see if things would change. 414 00:21:26,686 --> 00:21:30,156 Father Solanus, Father Solanus, 415 00:21:30,256 --> 00:21:31,458 pardon me for interrupting you. But-- 416 00:21:31,558 --> 00:21:33,292 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One of Mr. Rogers' employees 417 00:21:33,393 --> 00:21:35,294 heard about Charles's plight and went 418 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:37,764 straight to father Solanus. 419 00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:39,899 Will you please pray for him, Father? 420 00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:43,703 I know you have the power to make him better. 421 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:46,339 Will you pray for him, Father, please? 422 00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:47,540 Don't worry. 423 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,241 He will be better tonight. 424 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:51,644 [bell chiming] 425 00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:04,391 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Helen Gleeson 426 00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:07,694 says her brother underwent a miraculous transformation 427 00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:09,095 that very night. 428 00:22:09,195 --> 00:22:10,797 Dad? 429 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,665 Mom? 430 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:13,900 Charles? 431 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,867 Charles, is that you? 432 00:22:21,107 --> 00:22:22,475 How are you feeling? 433 00:22:22,575 --> 00:22:25,044 All right. 434 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:26,379 Let's get you back to bed. 435 00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:27,346 Come on. 436 00:22:27,447 --> 00:22:28,481 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr. Aethee 437 00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:31,017 returned, skeptical that Charles's condition 438 00:22:31,117 --> 00:22:32,919 could possibly have improved. 439 00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:33,820 Look at you. 440 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:41,127 Now give me your hand. 441 00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:42,529 Put it up against mine. 442 00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:43,896 Now push my hand back. 443 00:22:43,996 --> 00:22:46,298 HELEN GLEESON: He told him to put his hand up against his 444 00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:49,536 and push, and do the same with the other hand. 445 00:22:49,636 --> 00:22:50,737 And his muscles were moving. 446 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:57,243 The paralysis seemed to leave. 447 00:22:57,343 --> 00:23:01,514 His paralyzed muscles seemed to get better. 448 00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:02,782 And walk over to me. 449 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,722 HELEN GLEESON: And Dr. Aethee said, Mr. Rogers, 450 00:23:09,822 --> 00:23:11,390 you did more than pray. 451 00:23:11,491 --> 00:23:12,825 It's a miracle. 452 00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:16,295 He says, this, indeed, is a miracle. 453 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:21,534 And medical men do not use that term. 454 00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,035 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): According to Helen, 455 00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:25,572 Charles recovered fully within a month. 456 00:23:25,672 --> 00:23:29,008 He lived to be 64 years old and was never again troubled 457 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:30,510 by any symptom of polio. 458 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:38,618 Father Solanus Casey retired in 1956 at the age of 85. 459 00:23:38,718 --> 00:23:40,620 Until his death the following year, 460 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,122 medical problems caused him great suffering, 461 00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:45,658 though he complained little. 462 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:49,128 His skin became very red and scaly. 463 00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:52,264 At times, it was very burning. 464 00:23:52,364 --> 00:23:55,334 So it was very painful to him. 465 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:59,739 So at the end of his life, his body, one of the witnesses 466 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:04,043 described it. He was as red as a lobster. 467 00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:06,513 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1966, Farther Solanus 468 00:24:06,613 --> 00:24:10,016 was proposed as a candidate for sainthood, a formal procedure 469 00:24:10,116 --> 00:24:12,218 that often takes decades. 470 00:24:12,318 --> 00:24:16,388 In 1987, 30 years after Solanus Casey's death, 471 00:24:16,489 --> 00:24:18,591 his body was exhumed to allow church 472 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:24,631 officials to look for signs that might validate canonization. 473 00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:28,167 While his hands and his face were somewhat darkened, 474 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:31,003 the rest of his body was very natural looking. 475 00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:36,275 And, in fact, the doctor even pressed, and it was pliable. 476 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:42,081 But there was no sign of any skin disease of any kind. 477 00:24:42,181 --> 00:24:43,816 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Usually, after 30 years, 478 00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:46,786 there will be significant decomposition. 479 00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:50,089 The stunning condition of Solanus Casey's body reported 480 00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:52,158 by church officials is said to be 481 00:24:52,258 --> 00:24:57,797 characteristic of some candidates for sainthood. 482 00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,832 Following the ritual examination, 483 00:24:59,932 --> 00:25:03,169 the body of Father Solanus was placed in a special sanctuary 484 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:05,672 within Saint Bonaventure's. 485 00:25:05,772 --> 00:25:08,074 As he did in life, Father Solanus 486 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:11,377 continues to draw pilgrims and inspire believers 487 00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:14,380 from around the world. 488 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,482 To me, a lot of times, just myself praying to God, 489 00:25:16,583 --> 00:25:19,151 I need help. 490 00:25:19,251 --> 00:25:23,355 Or I might need an interpreter, if I can put it that way. 491 00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:30,462 And I think he does help people do that. 492 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,531 I'm very sick, Father. 493 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:34,000 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Was Father Solanus 494 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,268 a divinely-inspired miracle worker 495 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,305 who somehow had the ear of God? 496 00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:43,042 Or can his cures be explained in more earthly terms? 497 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:46,445 In the end, like the mystery of faith itself, 498 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,048 the only answer is in the eye of the beholder. 499 00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:56,889 In a moment, when a well-regarded family's secret 500 00:25:56,989 --> 00:26:00,326 is revealed, a woman embarks on a search for her birth father. 501 00:26:10,937 --> 00:26:13,840 In May of 1988 in Plant City, Florida, 502 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:17,276 a hospital nurse named Kathleen Belcher received an urgent call 503 00:26:17,376 --> 00:26:19,445 from her mother, Miriam. 504 00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:22,581 Kathleen's stepfather was about to have major surgery 505 00:26:22,682 --> 00:26:24,183 and needed several pints of blood 506 00:26:24,283 --> 00:26:25,618 from both Kathleen and her sister. 507 00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:26,953 Yes, I know. 508 00:26:27,053 --> 00:26:29,388 But Bill's mostly afraid of the blood transfusion, AIDS, 509 00:26:29,488 --> 00:26:30,690 you know, things like that. 510 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:31,991 He wants us to donate blood. 511 00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,259 Well, what's his blood type? 512 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,393 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Kathleen 513 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:35,527 was only too happy to help. 514 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:37,196 I'm A positive. I could give him some of mine. 515 00:26:37,296 --> 00:26:38,097 What are you? 516 00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:39,598 Are you A, too? 517 00:26:39,699 --> 00:26:41,433 No, no, I'm B. 518 00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:43,535 Oh, I guess maybe it was Daddy who was A. 519 00:26:44,837 --> 00:26:45,738 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Kathleen never dreamed 520 00:26:45,838 --> 00:26:47,439 that this conversation with her mother 521 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:50,509 would prompt an extraordinary revelation. 522 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,410 Are you sure? 523 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:53,012 Yes, I'm sure. 524 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:54,513 Your father was an O. 525 00:26:55,748 --> 00:26:56,883 KATHLEEN BELCHER: And I said, that's impossible, 526 00:26:56,983 --> 00:26:58,350 because I have A positive. 527 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:00,086 And I have to have one of your blood types. 528 00:27:03,856 --> 00:27:06,192 Every person has to have either their mother 529 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:08,160 or their father's blood type. 530 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:11,297 And obviously, I did not. 531 00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:15,234 I had A. And the man that raised me and I thought was my father 532 00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:18,905 had O. And my mother has B. 533 00:27:19,005 --> 00:27:21,273 My heart went down to my feet. 534 00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:27,246 And I thought, you know, all these years, and now this. 535 00:27:27,346 --> 00:27:29,648 My secret will be out. 536 00:27:29,749 --> 00:27:34,320 Kathleen, I don't want to talk about this anymore, OK? 537 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:35,621 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Miriam Terry 538 00:27:35,722 --> 00:27:38,324 had inadvertently revealed a secret she had kept hidden 539 00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:42,228 for nearly 40 years, the true identity of Kathleen's 540 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:43,429 biological father. 541 00:27:46,098 --> 00:27:48,267 Miriam was thrown back to the end 542 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:50,602 of World War II, when she made the most 543 00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,371 agonizing decision of her life. 544 00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,609 Miriam's first husband, Bud Terry, 545 00:27:57,710 --> 00:27:59,712 the man Kathleen knew as her father, 546 00:27:59,812 --> 00:28:03,282 had flown dozens of bombing missions overseas. 547 00:28:03,382 --> 00:28:07,353 After the war, Bud was a changed man. 548 00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:09,922 Before he was in the service, he was a wonderful man. 549 00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:13,025 When he came out of the service, he was completely different. 550 00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:16,028 Bud could not get jobs anymore because every job he got, 551 00:28:16,128 --> 00:28:18,397 he would write bad checks to customers 552 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:22,168 and so on and so forth to pay his bills, his gambling debts. 553 00:28:22,268 --> 00:28:24,937 And he was afraid of even being killed 554 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:29,108 because he owed gamblers. 555 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,110 That's the sweep. 556 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,912 Yeah, OK, you got a four. 557 00:28:34,113 --> 00:28:35,481 MIRIAM TERRY: Bud's gambling was very bad. 558 00:28:35,581 --> 00:28:40,086 I don't really have any idea how much he won, how much he lost. 559 00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:41,120 But he was always in debt. 560 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,021 Come on. 561 00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:42,922 Let's go. 562 00:28:43,022 --> 00:28:43,890 Here we go, all right. 563 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,528 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In 1945, 564 00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:53,265 Miriam and Bud had a daughter, Kathleen's older sister. 565 00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:57,269 In 1948, Bud reenlisted, hoping military discipline would 566 00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:59,638 restore some order to his life. 567 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,207 It did not. 568 00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:04,476 Bud Terry went AWOL, leaving Miriam and their young daughter 569 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:06,745 behind. 570 00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:09,982 You've been alone a long time, darling. 571 00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:14,120 And you really need to think about going out. 572 00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:15,087 Mom. 573 00:29:15,187 --> 00:29:16,255 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Miriam says 574 00:29:16,355 --> 00:29:17,656 Bud had been gone for several months 575 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:22,228 when his parents began to suggest Miriam start dating. 576 00:29:22,328 --> 00:29:24,964 They even introduced her to Chet Norris, the bartender 577 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:28,700 at their local social club in Covington, Kentucky. 578 00:29:28,801 --> 00:29:30,870 He's been looking at you. 579 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:32,939 MIRIAM TERRY: I didn't know much about him at the time. 580 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,306 He was very nice looking. 581 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:35,842 He had dark eyes. 582 00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:40,246 I want to introduce you to Miriam, our daughter-in-law. 583 00:29:40,346 --> 00:29:41,647 How do you do? 584 00:29:41,747 --> 00:29:43,983 Hi. 585 00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:45,384 MIRIAM TERRY: He had a good personality. 586 00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:50,522 He was just very nice, and he seemed to be attracted to me. 587 00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:53,725 I really didn't even feel like a woman anymore at this time. 588 00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:56,829 I felt deserted, like I was unattractive, 589 00:29:56,929 --> 00:29:59,031 like I was nothing. 590 00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,533 So, uh, what do you like to do? 591 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,434 Hmm? 592 00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:05,137 For fun? 593 00:30:05,237 --> 00:30:06,939 - I like to dance. - Oh. 594 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:08,340 I-- I love to dance. 595 00:30:11,243 --> 00:30:12,378 Do you dance? 596 00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,113 - Uh, no. - Hmm? 597 00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:15,047 Well, not very well. 598 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:16,382 Oh. 599 00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:18,017 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): From its tentative beginnings, 600 00:30:18,117 --> 00:30:20,252 Miriam and Chet's friendship quickly blossomed. 601 00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:22,254 He takes care of a few horses. 602 00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:24,823 MIRIAM TERRY: I wanted a divorce from my husband, 603 00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:26,993 and I wanted to marry Chet. 604 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:29,728 And he wanted to marry me. 605 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:30,796 I have some really good news. 606 00:30:30,897 --> 00:30:31,697 You do? 607 00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:34,100 Yeah, I got this job. 608 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,601 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Chet began to think 609 00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:37,436 about a future with Miriam. 610 00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:39,571 He quit his job at the club and found work 611 00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:40,839 as an apprentice tile center. 612 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:42,208 You got the job. 613 00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:44,510 I'm so proud of you. 614 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:46,645 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Six months flew by, then 615 00:30:46,745 --> 00:30:49,081 reality came crashing down. 616 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,417 Miriam's husband, Bud Terry, was arrested 617 00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:54,253 by military authorities. 618 00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:59,926 They had found him living with another woman in Indianapolis, 619 00:31:00,026 --> 00:31:02,294 all this while. 620 00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:10,269 And I was so upset because I did not want to go back to him 621 00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:12,939 that I didn't care what I did. 622 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,074 And I felt like I-- 623 00:31:15,174 --> 00:31:19,178 I just lost my cool, I guess. 624 00:31:19,278 --> 00:31:20,512 And I got pregnant. 625 00:31:25,251 --> 00:31:26,352 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Miriam was 626 00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:29,588 in a quandary, pregnant, and in love with a man who 627 00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:30,456 wasn't her husband. 628 00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:38,364 Can I tell you something? 629 00:31:38,464 --> 00:31:40,632 I'm not sure it's good news. 630 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:42,401 Sure, of course, what is it? 631 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:43,369 I'm pregnant. 632 00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:45,237 I-- I mean, I think I'm pregnant. 633 00:31:45,337 --> 00:31:47,406 You can't be. 634 00:31:47,506 --> 00:31:49,508 I don't think I can have kids. 635 00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:51,210 Chet, I'm telling you. 636 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,079 I've been pregnant before, remember? 637 00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:56,415 I-- I feel like I am. 638 00:31:56,515 --> 00:32:00,186 Well, if you are, let's go get married. 639 00:32:00,286 --> 00:32:02,921 I mean, we've been talking about get married, anyway. 640 00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,557 So let's do it. 641 00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:08,727 Well, I have to divorce Bud first. 642 00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:10,096 That shouldn't be a problem, should it? 643 00:32:17,203 --> 00:32:18,971 Miriam soon visited Bud in jail. 644 00:32:19,071 --> 00:32:21,773 Hi, Miriam. 645 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:23,242 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): She was determined 646 00:32:23,342 --> 00:32:24,143 to end their marriage. 647 00:32:24,243 --> 00:32:25,477 How are you? 648 00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:30,049 The only reason I'm here is because I want a divorce. 649 00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:34,420 Oh, Miriam, I'm sorry for what I did. 650 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,289 Bud, I've met someone else. 651 00:32:37,389 --> 00:32:39,425 I love him, and he loves me. 652 00:32:39,525 --> 00:32:42,528 And we want to get married. 653 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:43,829 No. 654 00:32:43,929 --> 00:32:45,897 Bud, you were the one that left Debra and me. 655 00:32:45,998 --> 00:32:47,599 MIRIAM TERRY: Although my husband had been gone all 656 00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:51,770 this while and I didn't feel I loved him anymore, 657 00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:55,274 I was worried about losing my daughter. 658 00:32:55,374 --> 00:32:56,775 I'm back, and that's that. 659 00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,144 We are not getting divorced. 660 00:33:01,547 --> 00:33:05,217 Bud, I'm pregnant. 661 00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:06,685 Did-- did you hear what I said? 662 00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:08,320 I said that I am pregnant. 663 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:18,530 MIRIAM TERRY: He bashed his head against the wall and cried. 664 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:23,235 And then he said, I want you to come back anyway. 665 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:25,071 And nobody will ever have to know. 666 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:27,406 Just come back to me. 667 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:31,210 So at this time, I felt like I was between a rock 668 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:33,745 and a hard place. 669 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,381 What about the baby? 670 00:33:35,481 --> 00:33:38,650 What are you going to do about that, tell Bud it's his? 671 00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:40,719 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Miriam decided that hiding the truth 672 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,455 was the only way out of the emotional tangle. 673 00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,625 She told Chet that she was not pregnant after all. 674 00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:48,394 You're not pregnant? 675 00:33:48,494 --> 00:33:50,162 Jeez, Miriam. 676 00:33:50,262 --> 00:33:53,199 Look, I know things are very complicated right now. 677 00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:55,000 MIRIAM TERRY: It was terribly hard, 678 00:33:55,101 --> 00:33:58,036 but I felt I had no choice. 679 00:33:58,137 --> 00:33:59,938 I felt I had to do that. 680 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:00,972 It was awful. 681 00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:02,274 It was really awful. 682 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:03,975 What was I supposed to do, just take Debra and leave? 683 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:05,911 Yeah, we take Debra and leave. 684 00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:06,912 Oh, be reasonable. 685 00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:07,813 I can't. 686 00:34:07,913 --> 00:34:09,014 You can't just sit there. 687 00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:10,116 You have to do something. 688 00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:12,784 I am doing something. 689 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,821 I'm staying here with Debra and Bud. 690 00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:21,860 MIRIAM TERRY: He was very upset and very angry and said, 691 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,796 this is going to happen again and again and again. 692 00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:26,132 You'll see. 693 00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:27,966 Your life is just going to be one of misery. 694 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:38,644 I never heard anything about him ever anymore. 695 00:34:38,744 --> 00:34:41,213 It was like he dropped off of the face of the Earth. 696 00:34:43,982 --> 00:34:45,117 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Bud Terry 697 00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:47,719 was released from jail after Miriam wrote to a judge, 698 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:49,688 begging for clemency. 699 00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,325 Kathleen was born on February 12, 1950. 700 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:58,397 And true to his word, Bud raised her as his own. 701 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,432 He never gave me any indication that he 702 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,768 knew that I was not his. 703 00:35:02,868 --> 00:35:06,104 There was no way that I would ever have known. 704 00:35:06,205 --> 00:35:08,039 In fact, I have renewed respect for him 705 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:09,375 because he never let me know. 706 00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,478 He always loved me and loved me equal. 707 00:35:12,578 --> 00:35:15,981 And we spent a lot of time together. 708 00:35:16,081 --> 00:35:17,283 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Bud struggled 709 00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:18,884 to make his marriage work. 710 00:35:18,984 --> 00:35:20,852 But his addiction to gambling kept the family 711 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,954 on the brink of bankruptcy. 712 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:26,658 In 1969, he and Miriam finally divorced. 713 00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:29,628 Miriam remarried in 1974. 714 00:35:29,728 --> 00:35:32,564 But Terry committed suicide around that time, 715 00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:36,768 and Miriam assumed her secret would be safe forever. 716 00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:40,005 More than a decade would pass before circumstance forced 717 00:35:40,105 --> 00:35:43,309 her to tell Kathleen the truth. 718 00:35:43,409 --> 00:35:46,077 Well, I don't know about things like that. 719 00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:48,947 MIRIAM TERRY: I would have taken the secret to my grave. 720 00:35:49,047 --> 00:35:54,119 But since it's my fault, because of me that this happened, 721 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:59,124 I want to help her, because I love my daughter. 722 00:35:59,225 --> 00:36:00,025 Hello. 723 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,427 Is this the Norris residence? 724 00:36:01,527 --> 00:36:03,229 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): With her mother's blessings, 725 00:36:03,329 --> 00:36:06,698 Kathleen Belcher has spent six years searching for her father 726 00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:09,568 using social security records, classified ads, 727 00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:10,969 and computer hot lines. 728 00:36:11,069 --> 00:36:13,672 Do you know anybody, or do you have a relative, with the name 729 00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:14,873 of Chet Lee Norris? 730 00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:16,275 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Kathleen 731 00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:19,311 has phoned literally hundreds of Norris's across the country. 732 00:36:19,411 --> 00:36:22,180 But today she is no closer to seeing her father than when 733 00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:23,181 she first began to look. 734 00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:26,985 All I can tell you is he was very dark complected, 735 00:36:27,085 --> 00:36:28,287 dark hair, dark eyes. 736 00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:29,621 KATHLEEN BELCHER: I just hope I can find 737 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,490 him before he does pass away. 738 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,191 It would be terrible to know that he 739 00:36:33,292 --> 00:36:38,597 just passed away months ago, and I missed my chance to know him. 740 00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:41,066 It may seem that I'm calm about the whole circumstance, 741 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:43,335 but deep down I'm not. 742 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:45,971 I think about it day and night. 743 00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:48,173 I think of what it would be like to look in his face 744 00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:49,608 and see my face. 745 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,744 It would be nice to see where I got my nose, which doesn't look 746 00:36:52,844 --> 00:36:56,815 like anybody's, where I got my ears, just to look at somebody 747 00:36:56,915 --> 00:36:58,484 and see familiarity. 748 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,220 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This is the only known 749 00:37:02,321 --> 00:37:04,189 photograph of Chet Lee Norris, taken 750 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,458 when he was about 32 years old. 751 00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:08,927 Today, he would be in his mid-70s. 752 00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:12,931 Chet said he was a Golden Gloves boxer during the 1940s. 753 00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:14,199 He may have had a brother named John. 754 00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:21,707 When we return, authorities need your help 755 00:37:21,807 --> 00:37:23,342 to track down a serial killer. 756 00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:34,820 Tonight, we have a case of the utmost urgency. 757 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,089 Someone is murdering young women in the Midwest. 758 00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:40,292 The authorities need your help. 759 00:37:40,392 --> 00:37:41,860 Please, watch closely. 760 00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:48,166 26-year-old Robin Fuldauer of Indianapolis, Indiana, 761 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:52,471 wanted more than anything to marry and start a family. 762 00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:56,241 On April 8, 1992, Robin was found shot to death 763 00:37:56,342 --> 00:38:00,111 at the shoe store where she worked. 764 00:38:00,211 --> 00:38:03,849 23-year-old Patricia Smith and 32-year-old Patricia Magers 765 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,617 were both happily married. 766 00:38:05,717 --> 00:38:10,822 They worked side by side at a bridal shop in Wichita, Kansas. 767 00:38:10,922 --> 00:38:13,725 Just three days after Robin Fuldauer was murdered, 768 00:38:13,825 --> 00:38:16,094 both Patricia Smith and Patricia Magers 769 00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:21,066 were shot to death in the back storeroom of the shop. 770 00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:24,336 24-year-old Nancy Kitzmiller of Saint Charles, Missouri, 771 00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:26,805 had just recently qualified to join a government 772 00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:30,809 mapmaking team and was awaiting assignment. 773 00:38:30,909 --> 00:38:33,044 Three weeks after the Wichita murders, 774 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:36,047 Nancy Kitzmiller was shot to death in the boot store 775 00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:39,351 where she worked as a manager. 776 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:42,053 Four murders in three different states, separated 777 00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:45,290 by more than 1,200 miles, at first glance, 778 00:38:45,391 --> 00:38:47,559 they seemed to be random killings. 779 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,995 Yet each took place at a shopping mall, 780 00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:53,198 just off Interstate 70 or a connecting highway. 781 00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:55,601 Indeed, there was a pattern, after all. 782 00:38:58,937 --> 00:39:02,508 Raytown, Missouri, another link in the deadly chain, 783 00:39:02,608 --> 00:39:05,310 a Woodson Village shopping center near an access road 784 00:39:05,411 --> 00:39:10,416 to Interstate 70, on May 7, 1992, 785 00:39:10,516 --> 00:39:13,452 37-year-old Sarah Blessing was working alone 786 00:39:13,552 --> 00:39:16,855 in a gift shop at the mall. 787 00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:20,926 At 6:30 PM that day, a local auctioneer noticed a stranger 788 00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:24,730 walking into his auction house. 789 00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:29,835 The stranger looked around briefly, then walked out again. 790 00:39:29,935 --> 00:39:32,538 Tim Hickman, who owned a video store next to the gift 791 00:39:32,638 --> 00:39:34,372 shop where Sarah Blessing worked, 792 00:39:34,473 --> 00:39:36,808 took notice as the man crossed the parking lot 793 00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:38,109 and passed by his store. 794 00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:42,748 Minutes later, Tim heard a loud pop 795 00:39:42,848 --> 00:39:44,750 that sounded like a gunshot. 796 00:39:44,850 --> 00:39:47,052 He reached his front door just as a man was 797 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,888 disappearing around the corner. 798 00:39:49,988 --> 00:39:52,223 Right away, it registered with Tim Hickman 799 00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:55,427 that this was the stranger he had just seen. 800 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:57,596 A grocery clerk, collecting shopping carts, 801 00:39:57,696 --> 00:39:59,631 also noticed the stranger. 802 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:02,200 She watched as he climbed the embankment to an Interstate 803 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:05,637 70 access road and vanished. 804 00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:08,139 Meanwhile, Tim Hickman grabbed a portable phone 805 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,709 and went next door to the gift shop. 806 00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:12,611 I kind of looked in through the door, 807 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:14,980 and I didn't see anything. 808 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,017 And I was calling, ma'am, ma'am. 809 00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:21,487 And I stepped forward a couple more steps, 810 00:40:21,587 --> 00:40:24,155 And then I saw her legs, sticking out of the other room. 811 00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:29,495 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Sarah Blessing lay 812 00:40:29,595 --> 00:40:31,597 lifeless in a pool of blood. 813 00:40:31,697 --> 00:40:33,799 Tim Hickman immediately called the police. 814 00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:41,106 In no time, the Raytown tragedy was connected to the earlier 815 00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:42,541 shopping mall killings. 816 00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:46,478 A multistate task force was formed. 817 00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:49,247 Ballistics tests confirmed that all five women had been killed 818 00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:52,050 with the same gun, most likely a semiautomatic, 819 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:55,220 .22-caliber pistol. 820 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,823 That gun was also linked to the murder of another victim, 821 00:40:57,923 --> 00:40:59,558 this one a man. 822 00:40:59,658 --> 00:41:03,595 On April 27, 1992, 40-year-old Michael McCown 823 00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:05,196 of Terre Haute, Indiana, had been 824 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,332 killed in a shopping mall ceramics store 825 00:41:07,432 --> 00:41:09,100 near Interstate 70. 826 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,170 There were now six victims. 827 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:14,272 The most promising lead came from Wichita. 828 00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:19,878 Police believe the killer had chosen the bridal shop there 829 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:22,981 because he thought only a single female clerk was in the store. 830 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:23,882 Hi. 831 00:41:23,982 --> 00:41:27,185 Can I help you? 832 00:41:27,285 --> 00:41:28,119 Stay calm. 833 00:41:28,219 --> 00:41:29,120 What-- what do you want? 834 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:30,055 Stay calm. 835 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:31,389 Let's just walk to the back corner. 836 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:32,290 I've got money. 837 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:33,291 Do you want money? 838 00:41:33,391 --> 00:41:34,560 Anything you want. 839 00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:36,161 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He was probably surprised 840 00:41:36,261 --> 00:41:37,929 to find two women on duty. 841 00:41:38,029 --> 00:41:39,230 - Are you the only one here? - Yes. 842 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:40,966 - Is there anybody else here? - No, nobody here. 843 00:41:41,066 --> 00:41:42,701 - Where is your cash register? - It's over there. 844 00:41:42,801 --> 00:41:43,702 You can have whatever you want. 845 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:44,770 We're just going to the back room. 846 00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:45,737 I'm just going to tie you up, all right? 847 00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:46,437 - Please, don't hurt us. - Calm down. 848 00:41:46,538 --> 00:41:47,405 You can have the money. 849 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:48,306 Just do what he says. 850 00:41:48,406 --> 00:41:49,307 That's right. 851 00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,647 [gunfire] 852 00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:58,516 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Moments 853 00:41:58,617 --> 00:42:00,118 later, a customer arrived to pick 854 00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:01,687 up a cumberbun for his tuxedo. 855 00:42:10,962 --> 00:42:11,930 Hello? 856 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:13,264 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He had no idea 857 00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:16,067 that Patricia Smith and Patricia Magers had just been shot. 858 00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:16,968 Anybody here? 859 00:42:19,671 --> 00:42:20,471 Hey. 860 00:42:24,342 --> 00:42:25,543 Hey, man. 861 00:42:25,644 --> 00:42:27,045 I don't know what's going on here, but I need to just-- 862 00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:28,179 Wait a minute. 863 00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:29,915 I want you to come in the back room with me. 864 00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:31,016 Look, man. I can't go in the-- 865 00:42:31,116 --> 00:42:32,450 What are you doing? What are you doing? 866 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:33,585 I-- I-- just need to-- 867 00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:34,853 I told you to come in the back room. 868 00:42:34,953 --> 00:42:37,455 Hey, man, I can't come in the back room. 869 00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:38,857 I just want to get out of here. 870 00:42:38,957 --> 00:42:39,958 I didn't see nothing. 871 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:41,426 I don't know nothing that's going on here. 872 00:42:41,526 --> 00:42:42,493 I just-- I just want to-- 873 00:42:42,594 --> 00:42:43,762 Shut up and get the hell out of here 874 00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:46,732 then, and don't call the cops. 875 00:42:46,832 --> 00:42:48,399 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Inexplicably, the killer 876 00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:50,468 let the eyewitness go free. 877 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:53,204 A short time later, he called the police. 878 00:42:53,304 --> 00:42:56,041 Using his description, as well as those of the Raytown 879 00:42:56,141 --> 00:42:58,443 eyewitness, the police artist came up 880 00:42:58,543 --> 00:43:02,648 with this composite drawing of the I-70 killer. 881 00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:06,184 The suspect is between 5 feet 8 inches and 6 feet tall, 882 00:43:06,284 --> 00:43:11,289 weighs around 170 pounds, and seems to be 35 to 40 years old. 883 00:43:11,389 --> 00:43:13,659 He has reddish hair and a high forehead 884 00:43:13,759 --> 00:43:16,161 and what witnesses describe as lazy eyelids. 885 00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:20,666 According to each of the eyewitnesses, 886 00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:23,434 the suspect was neatly dressed and clear cut. 887 00:43:23,534 --> 00:43:25,436 He appeared to be almost in a trance, 888 00:43:25,536 --> 00:43:29,240 as if he were thinking of something else. 889 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:30,475 It's important for the audience 890 00:43:30,575 --> 00:43:33,144 to know that a serial killer never stops. 891 00:43:33,244 --> 00:43:34,813 They may stop for a period of time, 892 00:43:34,913 --> 00:43:36,381 but they never stop completely. 893 00:43:36,481 --> 00:43:38,717 And they will always start up again. 894 00:43:38,817 --> 00:43:41,853 So we're trying to find this person 895 00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:44,255 and stop this person before we have six more. 896 00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:50,996 Now, tragically, there are seven victims. 897 00:43:51,096 --> 00:43:52,831 After we filmed this story, the murderer 898 00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:55,133 apparently struck again, killing a young woman 899 00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:57,202 in Arlington, Texas. 900 00:43:57,302 --> 00:43:59,971 Although the bullet this time did not come from the same gun, 901 00:44:00,071 --> 00:44:02,440 the MO is so similar that police are virtually 902 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:06,211 sure it's the same man. 903 00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:09,881 Once again, the suspect is between 35 and 40 years old, 904 00:44:09,981 --> 00:44:13,885 5 feet 8" to 6 feet tall, with reddish or sandy hair 905 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:14,853 and thin lips. 906 00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:29,935 On our next "Unsolved Mysteries," 30 years ago 907 00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:32,871 he was America's most notorious criminal, Albert 908 00:44:32,971 --> 00:44:35,506 DeSalvo, the Boston Strangler. 909 00:44:35,606 --> 00:44:37,843 He confessed to killing 13 women in the city 910 00:44:37,943 --> 00:44:41,346 between 1962 and 1964. 911 00:44:41,446 --> 00:44:43,849 But many doubted DeSalvo's story. 912 00:44:43,949 --> 00:44:45,216 And the night before he had promised 913 00:44:45,316 --> 00:44:47,786 to tell the whole truth, DeSalvo was stabbed 914 00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:50,355 to death in his prison cell. 915 00:44:50,455 --> 00:44:52,623 Somebody found out. 916 00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:56,728 Somebody didn't want that interview happening. 917 00:44:56,828 --> 00:45:02,600 And I think they have said before, dead men tell no tales. 918 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,303 Today, some believe DeSalvo was innocent 919 00:45:05,403 --> 00:45:09,407 and that the real Boston Strangler got away with murder. 920 00:45:09,507 --> 00:45:12,577 Join me next time for this controversial investigation 921 00:45:12,677 --> 00:45:14,746 and more on "Unsolved Mysteries." 922 00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:17,783 [theme music] 70803

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