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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK: In
the early 1930s,
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two amateur
prospectors in Wyoming
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chanced upon a
baffling curiosity--
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the mummified remains of a
tiny ancient human being.
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X-rays revealed what appeared
to be a fully developed
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skeleton just 17 inches
tall, about the height
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of a coffee table.
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Could the artifact be evidence
that a mythological race
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of supernatural beings,
known as the little people,
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actually existed?
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In Mississippi, the tragic death
of 18-year-old Andre Jones,
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the son of civil
rights activists,
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is surrounded by a
storm of controversy.
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In 1992, Jones was arrested at
a routine sobriety checkpoint.
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But less than 36 hours
later, he was dead.
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Authorities say he hung
himself with a shoelace
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in the shower stall
of his jail cell.
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Andre's parents say
he was murdered.
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October 2, 1961.
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An 11-year-old,
Alan [inaudible],
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told his parents that someone
had left a baby in their car,
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and they thought he was joking.
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Today, that baby
is a grown woman
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searching for her birth mother.
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Also tonight, remarkable update.
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A landlord watching
"Unsolved Mysteries"
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is shocked to discover that
one of his former tenants
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is wanted for murder.
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Join me.
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Perhaps you too may be able
to help solve a mystery.
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The American West--
a magical land
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with a rich and colorful past.
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For many, the frontier conjures
up images of outlaws, cowboys,
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and buried treasure.
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But for Native Americans,
this is ancient ground,
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steeped in a
history which defies
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conventional beliefs and logic.
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For generations, medicine men of
the Crow, Shoshone, and Arapaho
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tribes have told
stories of a mythic race
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of supernatural beings
able to perform feats
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of amazing physical strength.
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Incredibly, according
to legend, these people
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stood less than 2 feet high.
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For more than a century, the
story of the little people
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was just the kind of tall tale
that the pioneers scoffed at.
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But all of that would
change in 1932, when two men
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went prospecting in Wyoming.
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[blast]
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Hey.
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EUGENE S. BASHOR: Cecil
Mayne and Frank Carr
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were two amateur
gold prospectors.
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And they were in the Pedro
Mountains, which is right along
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the shore of
Pathfinder Reservoir,
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about the center of the state.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At the back of the cave,
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Cecil Mayne and Frank Carr made
an extraordinary discovery.
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What's that?
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What?
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Right here.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Perched on a rocky ledge
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was a small figure just
6 inches high, mummified
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in a sitting position.
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PROSPECTOR: Some ancient
burial cave or something.
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EUGENE S. BASHOR: We'd never
seen anything like that
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before, and would
have no idea what
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it was, except that they knew it
was probably worth taking out.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Several days later, Cecil Mayne
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returned to the cave alone.
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Paying no heed to the
notion that the cave was
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a sacred Indian
burial site, Mayne
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snatched the mysterious mummy.
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It has been an object
of great controversy
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and mystery ever since.
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Over the years,
the mummy has come
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into the possession of a
number of different people.
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Unsubstantiated rumor has
it that each of the owners
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died under unusual
circumstances.
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As far as anyone knows,
the most recent owner
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disappeared without a
trace nearly 20 years ago,
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along with the mummy.
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Those who believe in the
legend of the little people
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claim a curse is responsible.
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Others maintain it's
all just a coincidence.
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The discovery of
the mummy in 1932
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made headlines
throughout Wyoming,
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and prompted speculation that
it had been placed in the cave
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by one of the Native
American tribes.
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EARL MURRAY: Many Native
American spiritual people
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have told me that they
have certain ways they
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bury and intern their dead.
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And this-- this mummy is
in a different position
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than anything they've ever seen.
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So they don't know exactly--
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from their own viewpoints,
they don't know what it is.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
However, Cecil Mayne did not
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really care what the mummy was.
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He was looking to sell it.
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And eventually, he
found a willing buyer.
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HOMER SHERRILL:
Chance of a lifetime.
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Here it is, the
chance of a lifetime.
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The 6-inch mummy man.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
1934, an insurance salesman
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named Homer Sherrill
bought the mummy for $25
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and took it on the road.
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--Wyoming.
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2 bits.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One
of the first people to hand
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over the price of admission
was a curious 10-year-old boy
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named Eugene Bashor.
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You won't believe in mummies?
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Of course, you'll see it.
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You will have a
great mummy tour.
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EUGENE S. BASHOR: My dad
didn't want me to see it.
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What I remember most about
that was what a hard time
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I had talking him into giving me
$0.25 so I could see the mummy.
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And when I went in,
you went in one door,
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and then walked past a table
where the mummy was sitting.
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There was a guard there.
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And then out another door.
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And they moved you right by.
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You didn't get to
look at it very long.
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It was about 6 and 1/2
inches high seated.
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And standing, it would have
been about 17 inches high.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The mummy
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had brown skin and
a flattened skull,
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with wisps of gray
hair protruding
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from the back of the head.
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Although the mummy was
seen by hundreds of people
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over the next 10 years, no
serious scientific analysis
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was undertaken until 1950.
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Mr. Goodman?
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Ivan Goodman.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
By then, the mummy
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had fallen into the
hands of a used car
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dealer named Ivan Goodman.
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Well, what do you
have to show me?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Goodman
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took the relic to
Dr. Paul Martin
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at the Chicago Museum of
Natural History for an analysis.
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DR. GEORGE W. GILL:
Some serious efforts
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were made in the
early 1950s to get
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this little mummy documented.
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And it was done rather well,
I think, for the times.
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There were photographs
taken, good photographs
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that we can still look at.
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There were x-rays taken.
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Really a surprising amount of
very effective documentation
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was made.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
x-rays revealed that the object
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had a complete
skeletal structure,
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as well as a full set of teeth.
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Initially, it did appear
to be the mummified remains
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of a fully developed
human being which
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happened to be 17 inches tall.
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But after reviewing
all of the material,
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Dr. Martin reached an
altogether different conclusion.
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In his opinion, the mummy
was not a mature adult,
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but an infant who had suffered
from a medical abnormality
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known as anencephaly.
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This is a condition
in which infants
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are born without a brain
and lack a complete skull.
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As a result, they may often
take on the physical appearance
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of an adult.
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However, Eugene Bashor claims
that other experts believe
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the malformed skull could
have been the result
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of a severe blow to the head.
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EUGENE S. BASHOR:
Some of the people
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I've interviewed that were
experts, doctors, radiologists
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said there were pieces of skull
in the scalp that's hanging
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down, like it was beat down.
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And it's the result
of trauma, injury.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Eugene Bashor further states
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that the scientists
he spoke with
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believe the mummy had other
adult characteristics.
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EUGENE S. BASHOR: It also
has a full set of teeth,
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quite prominent teeth.
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And infants would show two
sets of undeveloped teeth
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still up in the jaws.
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These have descended,
and there's
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no other teeth above them,
like a baby or a young person
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would have.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Dr.
George Gill still disagrees.
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Yeah, all the physicians and
physical anthropologists that I
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know of who have ever looked
at it that I've been able
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to verify, to
actually talk to them,
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have said that it's
some type of infant,
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and-- and it looks to them to
be an anencephalic human infant.
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Oh, I certainly am going to do
everything I can to prove that.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In October of 1950,
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Ivan Goodman loaned the
find to Dr. Leonard Wadler,
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curator of a New York museum.
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--sound of that.
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I'm gonna trust
him with you, Doc.
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You take good care of him.
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Oh, don't worry.
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He's in good hands.
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You take care, sir.
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I shall.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Goodman
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felt there was a fortune to
be made if Wadler could prove
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that the mummy was
a North American
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relative of the pygmies, a race
of people in Africa and Asia
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who stand 4 to 5 feet in height.
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Unfortunately, Ivan Goodman
died of a sudden stroke
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before the theory was proven,
and Wadler kept the mummy.
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What was the mysterious
artifact uncovered
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in the remote mountains of
Wyoming more than 60 years ago?
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Was it proof of the existence
of a mythological race known
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as the little people,
or was it the tragedy
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of an anencephalic infant
born in primitive times?
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So much more could be done
today in the way of analysis
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on this small mummy.
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DNA analysis could be done.
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We have methods now that
could allow dating to be done
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without being that destructing.
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So it's really important
that the scientific community
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take another look at it.
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The controversy exists.
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It continues.
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It could be settled
if we had the mummy.
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At this point in time, we don't
know, and that's the mystery.
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Dr. Leonard Wadler was last
known to be living in Florida.
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However, no one has seen the
doctor or the mummy since 1975.
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While the scientific
community would
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like to find the
mummy for analysis,
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Native Americans hope the
relic will be recovered
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for its spiritual value.
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In their view, a sacred
burial site was disturbed.
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And ultimately, they
would like to return
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the artifact to an
appropriate resting place.
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Next, a series of
mysterious hanging
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deaths in jails
across Mississippi
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sparks a federal investigation.
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Tonight, there's a scandal
brewing in Mississippi,
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a scandal which has
prompted Attorney General
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Janet Reno to order
an investigation
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by the Justice Department.
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Over the past five years,
no fewer than 48 inmates
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in Mississippi jails, half
of them black, half of them
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white, have died under
mysterious circumstances.
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Every single death
was a hanging.
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Every single death
was ruled a suicide.
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This is a story of one
Mississippi hanging.
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In the summer of
1992, Andre Jones
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was 18 years old, about to start
his freshman year of college.
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His mother, Esther, was
president of the Jackson,
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Mississippi branch of the
NAACP; his stepfather,
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Charles X. Quinn, a
Nation of Islam minister.
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1: 00 AM, Saturday, August
22, Brandon, Mississippi.
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Andre Jones and his
girlfriend, Tanisha Love,
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were stopped at a routine
sobriety checkpoint.
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Andre was driving a
friend's pickup truck.
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May I see your driver's
license please, sir?
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I don't have it.
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[phone ringing]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
1:30 AM, Jackson, Mississippi,
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20 miles from Brandon.
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Andre's parents were
awakened when the phone rang.
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Hello?
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TANISHA LOVE (ON PHONE):
Hello, Mr. Quinn?
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This is Tanisha.
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I'm sorry to call you,
but Andre's been arrested.
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Arrested?
Andre's been arrested.
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Arrested?
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For what?
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For what?
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Yeah, mom.
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It's me.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): 2:00 AM.
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Andre called his parents from
the Brandon police station.
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I don't know what
the charges are.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
He said he did not know
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what he had been charged with.
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4: 00 AM.
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Andre telephoned again,
this time to say he
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had been transferred
to the Simpson County
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Jail 40 miles south of Jackson.
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According to his parents,
he still did not know what
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the charges against him were.
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ESTHER JONES QUINN: We were
told that-- that they could not
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tell us anything at that time.
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And Simpson County just refused
to-- to even talk to us.
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And they told us that we
could not come to that jail.
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Have you heard anything?
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The Quinns
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say that they spoke
with Andre at least
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five different
times on Saturday.
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How can they keep me in
here an extra day and they
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haven't even charged me?
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ESTHER JONES QUINN:
He was very much
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concerned about his charges.
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And we could not
tell him anything.
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He was very much concerned
about getting out
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immediately and-- and
so that he could attend
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school the very next day.
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About midnight that night, a--
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I heard a knock on the door.
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It was a Jackson police officer.
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--Jackson Police Department.
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OK.
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I have a message here for
Mrs. Esther Jones Quinn.
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I'm her husband.
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I could take it.
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Sir, I really need to
deliver this to her in person.
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Charles, what is it?
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This officer has
a message for you.
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OFFICER: Esther Jones Quinn?
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Yes?
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He gave me a piece of paper
which I only had a phone number
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for the Simpson County Jail.
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I'm really not sure, ma'am.
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ESTHER JONES QUINN (VOICEOVER):
There was not a note.
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There was not a message.
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It was only a number.
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Yes, hello?
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Yes, my name is
Esther Jones Quinn.
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Yes.
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I was informed that Andre
had committed suicide,
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that I was casually informed
that he had committed suicide,
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as if they could have been
talking to someone that
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didn't even know who he was.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Andre's parents,
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he had never shown
suicidal tendencies.
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He had never even
suffered from depression.
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Andre had no previous
arrest record.
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So when Esther and Charles Quinn
started to look into his death,
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they naturally began with the
circumstances of his arrest.
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Andre and Tanisha had stopped
by the Quinns' house in Jackson
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around 11:45 Friday night.
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They left and drove east toward
Brandon, where Tanisha lived.
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Near the Brandon city limits,
they came upon the checkpoint.
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According to the
Quinns' lawyers,
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the police say that
Andre Jones stopped
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just short of the checkpoint.
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Hey.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): They
say Andre tossed an object out
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of the window of the truck.
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Sir, did you just throw
something out of this vehicle?
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No, officer.
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Let me see your
driver's license.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Police identified the object
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as a .38 caliber handgun.
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Is that an open beer can?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Inside the truck,
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they say there was
an open can of beer.
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And finally, the
truck, which Andre
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had borrowed and driven
for more than a week,
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turned out to be stolen.
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Put your hands on the roof.
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Spread your legs.
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CHARLES X. QUINN: I'm
not sure if he knew
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or not if the truck was stolen.
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It would appear to me that if
he knew the truck was stolen,
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he would be skeptical
in driving it so openly.
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I didn't know nothing
about the truck.
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But I know there wasn't
no beer in the truck
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and he did not throw a
gun out of the truck,
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because there was
no gun in the truck.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tanisha Love's version
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of the events is very
different from the reported
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police version.
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Can I see your
license please, sir?
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I don't have it.
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You don't have a
license with you?
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No, I forgot it at home.
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- What's your name?
- Andre Jones.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Tanisha claims
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that as soon as the
officers heard Andre's name,
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their attitude
immediately changed.
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Thank you, sir.
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TANISHA LOVE: After
they asked him his name,
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they all went to a little--
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I said, like, a
little huddle, you
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know, like a football huddle.
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And they was-- I don't know
what they was talking about,
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'cause they was talking low.
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And after that, that's
when they came to the truck
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and asked Andre again
did he have his license.
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And he said no, sir, I
don't have my license.
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Step away.
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Hands on the roof
of the vehicle.
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TANISHA LOVE: And the asked
him to step out of the truck.
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And that's when
they handcuffed him.
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They shackled his
feet and they had him
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handcuffed at the same time.
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I didn't understand
what was going on.
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Mr. Jones, you have the
right to remain silent.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
State public safety
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commissioner Jim Ingram believes
Andre Jones was not shackled.
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In fact, Ingram disagrees
with Tanisha's entire account.
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There was no
confrontation whatsoever
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with the young Andre Jones.
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In fact, the officers were very
amazed how cooperative he was.
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This is two for one.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Commissioner
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Ingram, Andre was so cooperative
with the Brandon Police
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Department that he
admitted being in a gang,
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and even showed the
police gang hand signals,
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which they photographed.
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--kill two of yours.
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JIM INGRAM: And he
posed for photographs
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with different sign signals
indicating how gangs
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makes statements about signs.
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It was a very cooperative
attitude on both sides.
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The-- the officers have
indicated they really were
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impressed with this young man.
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My child was very independent
and a very intelligent
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young man, with his
own aspirations.
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And he had no need or--
or no desire to become
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involved within a gang.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Despite repeated requests,
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copies of the alleged photos of
Andre illustrating gang signals
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have not been made available
to "Unsolved Mysteries"
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or to Andre's family.
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Andre was charged
on four counts--
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driving a truck whose vehicle
identification number had been
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altered; carrying a
concealed weapon; possession
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of stolen license
plate tags; and driving
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with an open
container of alcohol.
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Commissioner Ingram remains
adamant that the arrest
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was non-confrontational.
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Charles Quinn, however, says
that an inmate in Brandon
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claims that police used racial
epithets to intimidate Andre.
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CHARLES X. QUINN: One of the
inmates who were transferred
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with Andre said that
the officer said,
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do you know what happened
to niggas for stealing
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a white man's truck?
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00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:11,944
And of course, other statements
were said to put fear in Andre.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At approximately 4:00 AM
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on Saturday, Andre
was transferred
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from Brandon to the Simpson
County Jail 35 miles away.
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The Simpson County
facility had a reputation
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as a dangerous jail.
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This is a rough diagram
of the cell into which
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Andre Jones was transferred.
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12 other inmates were being held
in the narrow L-shaped space.
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A dimly lit corridor
next to the cell
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led to a toilet and
the shower stall
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where Andre's body was found.
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JIM INGRAM: One of the
inmates came forward
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and said, hey, this guy
sure been in the shower
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for a long time.
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One of the men
walked back and said
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they found a young man
hanging by a shoelace,
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and the shower still running.
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And that's when they
called for the guards.
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And immediately they unlocked
the cell and took him down.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Authorities state
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that Andre Jones had hung
himself with his own shoelace.
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They say Andre tied the
shoelace to an iron grate
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above the showerhead.
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When Charles Quinn was
allowed to visit the cell,
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he estimated the grate
was approximately
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8 feet above the floor.
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CHARLES X. QUINN: He
would need someone
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to have held him up to do that.
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00:21:35,094 --> 00:21:41,868
And he would have needed some
type of a stool to stand on.
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That's incorrect.
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The point of attachment of the--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dr. Steven Hayne,
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the state-approved pathologist
who performed the autopsy,
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said investigators
had demonstrated
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that it was possible for Andre
to have hung himself unaided.
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That position
was easily reached
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by a member of the
Sheriff's office,
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who was acting as the decedent.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Andre's parents
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also feel it is impossible
that their son's
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body could have been
supported simply by a lace
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from his running shoes.
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00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,868
But Dr. Hayne says
the laces were tested
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by the manufacturer, and
their tensile strength
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was found sufficient.
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Less than a week
after Andre's death,
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his parents hired an independent
pathologist, Dr. James Bryant,
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to examine the remains
and review the case.
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DR. JAMES BRYANT:
I think it's highly
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probable that he was strangled.
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Someone did this to him.
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00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:38,725
In the usual case
of a suicide by--
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by hanging, the ligature mark
is along the side of the neck,
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and doesn't go all the way
around-- it's in this fashion--
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whereas in the case
of Andre Jones,
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the-- the ligature marking
went along the side of the neck
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and all the way into the
back, and criss-crossed
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in this fashion.
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00:22:55,942 --> 00:22:58,144
This suggests to me that--
496
00:22:58,244 --> 00:23:01,848
that there was-- that
someone had come from behind
497
00:23:01,948 --> 00:23:04,517
and wrapped the ligature
around his neck.
498
00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,253
And then furthermore,
there's-- there's no knot mark.
499
00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:10,923
The knot imprint area
would be in the hairline.
500
00:23:11,023 --> 00:23:13,660
And the hairline
would act as a buffer,
501
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,095
no longer allowing
for that imprint
502
00:23:16,195 --> 00:23:20,166
to be present on the upper
back surface of the neck.
503
00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:23,736
No, Andre Jones's
hair was cut short.
504
00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:27,239
And the criss-cross marking
was not in the hairline.
505
00:23:27,339 --> 00:23:28,708
And there were no knot
marks anywhere else.
506
00:23:31,343 --> 00:23:33,112
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dr. Hayne's autopsy report
507
00:23:33,212 --> 00:23:35,915
listed no evidence of
bruising on Andre's neck
508
00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:37,884
or anywhere else on his body.
509
00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:41,353
Dr. Bryant's observations
were different.
510
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,389
DR. JAMES BRYANT: He had some
bruising under one of his eyes.
511
00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:45,191
And also, he had some
bruising on the shoulder
512
00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:46,526
of the same side.
513
00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:50,229
The bruising could have been
right at the time that he died,
514
00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:52,164
or it could have been
sometime during the day.
515
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,366
But-- but-- but
apparently, he was--
516
00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:56,435
he suffered some
kind of blunt trauma
517
00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:59,238
sometime during-- during
the time he was in the jail.
518
00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:02,475
We were informed
by one of the inmates
519
00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:06,746
that Andre was taken
off that cell block
520
00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:08,581
and out of that jail.
521
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,283
And when he was
brought back in, he
522
00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:14,587
was brought back
in in a wheelchair,
523
00:24:14,687 --> 00:24:17,790
and that he was laid
on the shower floor,
524
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:23,530
and the hanging
scene was staged.
525
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:29,101
My findings, based upon the
evidence both at the scene,
526
00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,838
as well as from the
post-mortem examination,
527
00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:34,240
has been reviewed by
many other authorities,
528
00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:37,143
including the Armed Forces
Institute of Pathology,
529
00:24:37,243 --> 00:24:40,412
the Department of Justice,
the US Attorney's Office,
530
00:24:40,513 --> 00:24:43,015
as well as the Federal
Bureau of Investigation,
531
00:24:43,115 --> 00:24:45,084
and by the Attorney
General's Office of the State
532
00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:47,654
of Mississippi, and
they're in concurrence
533
00:24:47,754 --> 00:24:49,622
with the findings that I made.
534
00:24:49,722 --> 00:24:52,491
Yeah, there was
really no indication--
535
00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:54,326
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In March of 1993,
536
00:24:54,426 --> 00:24:56,128
a coalition of
civil rights groups
537
00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,965
conducted hearings in
Jackson, Mississippi.
538
00:24:59,065 --> 00:25:00,567
Both eyes was black.
539
00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,669
The right side of his eyelid--
540
00:25:02,769 --> 00:25:04,070
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Those testifying
541
00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:07,106
included the families of both
black and white jail inmates
542
00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:09,642
who had died under
questionable circumstances.
543
00:25:09,742 --> 00:25:12,945
And I have to sit and hold
my four-year-old daughter--
544
00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:14,914
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After two days of testimony,
545
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,716
the US Commission
on Civil Rights
546
00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:18,718
recommended that the
Justice Department
547
00:25:18,818 --> 00:25:19,686
open an investigation.
548
00:25:19,786 --> 00:25:22,789
They don't have
to go through that.
549
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,023
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Five months
550
00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:26,458
later, Dr. Emily
Ward, a specialist
551
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,928
in forensic pathology,
was named Mississippi
552
00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,063
state medical examiner.
553
00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:34,500
Dr. Ward went over the
autopsy report of Andre Jones,
554
00:25:34,601 --> 00:25:36,903
as well as the autopsies
of several other men
555
00:25:37,003 --> 00:25:41,173
who have died by hanging
in Mississippi jails.
556
00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:43,209
DR. EMILY WARD: I think
that it's extremely
557
00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:44,977
unlikely that any
of these deaths
558
00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,413
are anything other than suicide.
559
00:25:47,513 --> 00:25:49,148
All of the deaths
have been investigated
560
00:25:49,248 --> 00:25:53,285
by not just one agency, but
one or two, or sometimes three.
561
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,187
And I think that
although sometimes there
562
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:59,158
may be questions that need to be
answered related to the death,
563
00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:01,527
I don't think that
in any way affects
564
00:26:01,628 --> 00:26:05,097
whether or not the death
is suicide or homicide.
565
00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:09,235
I would never believe that
Andre committed suicide.
566
00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:13,773
I know my son was
murdered And the fact
567
00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:18,010
that his life was
taken so cruelly
568
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:20,780
and so abruptly
makes me even more
569
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,850
determined to see
that he is vindicated.
570
00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:29,956
[music playing]
571
00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:55,081
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
572
00:26:55,181 --> 00:26:57,216
a man wanted for the
murder of his girlfriend
573
00:26:57,316 --> 00:27:01,287
is captured thanks
to an alert viewer.
574
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:04,691
[theme music]
575
00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:15,034
In July of 1986,
22-year-old Paula Pasciak
576
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,069
and her boyfriend,
Jerry Gervasoni,
577
00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:19,571
arrived in Kissimmee,
Florida from New Jersey
578
00:27:19,672 --> 00:27:20,940
to visit Paula's mother.
579
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,842
Honey, I'm so glad
that you're here.
580
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,276
Do you remember
Jerry, don't you?
581
00:27:24,376 --> 00:27:25,211
Yes, I do.
582
00:27:25,311 --> 00:27:27,279
They stayed there
about one week.
583
00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:28,180
No, I don't.
584
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,916
Come on, let's get the bags.
585
00:27:30,016 --> 00:27:31,684
Paula was as happy as a lark.
586
00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:32,618
The two of 'em were.
587
00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:34,954
I mean, they were very--
588
00:27:35,054 --> 00:27:39,491
together, they were-- they
were just happy go lucky.
589
00:27:39,591 --> 00:27:42,995
So do you guys have any
plans for tomorrow, or what?
590
00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:44,063
Uh, well--
591
00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:44,864
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Paul and Jerry
592
00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:45,832
had arrived on a Wednesday.
593
00:27:45,932 --> 00:27:47,033
--see my relatives
down in Miami.
594
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:48,434
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On Sunday night,
595
00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,236
they said their goodbyes.
596
00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:51,938
They told Barbara
they would be leaving
597
00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:54,774
early the next day to visit
another part of Florida.
598
00:27:54,874 --> 00:27:57,076
Uh, we're getting
kind of tired.
599
00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:58,811
BARBARA PASCIAK: I got
up the next morning.
600
00:27:58,911 --> 00:28:00,279
OK, sweetie.
601
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,247
Good night.
602
00:28:01,347 --> 00:28:02,248
Good night.
603
00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:05,017
And I thought I heard them up.
604
00:28:05,117 --> 00:28:08,587
And I didn't know
whether they were or not,
605
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,724
so I didn't bother
to say goodbye.
606
00:28:17,496 --> 00:28:20,833
Maybe if I had, you know, things
would have been different.
607
00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:25,504
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In the days that followed,
608
00:28:25,604 --> 00:28:27,306
an odd smell would
intermittently
609
00:28:27,406 --> 00:28:29,275
waft through Barbara's home.
610
00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,710
She searched everywhere
looking for a source,
611
00:28:31,811 --> 00:28:34,213
finally checking
her own bedroom.
612
00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:36,382
[gasps]
613
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:37,950
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Hidden under the bed,
614
00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:40,887
wrapped in a bamboo curtain,
was her daughter's body.
615
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,525
Paula Pasciak had been
strangled to death
616
00:28:46,625 --> 00:28:51,097
and left under the
bed for nearly a week.
617
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,432
The prime suspect
was Jerry Gervasoni,
618
00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:55,501
but he dropped from sight.
619
00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:57,536
He successfully
eluded authorities
620
00:28:57,636 --> 00:29:01,340
for more than seven years, until
the night of our broadcast.
621
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:08,147
Update.
British Columbia, Canada.
622
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:12,084
On October 21, 1993,
Jerry Gervasoni
623
00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,854
was arrested in the small
community of Salt Springs
624
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,423
Island, where he had been
living under the assumed name
625
00:29:17,523 --> 00:29:19,792
Gordon MacIntyre.
626
00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:21,828
When our program
aired in Canada,
627
00:29:21,928 --> 00:29:25,397
Gervasoni's former landlord
recognized him and immediately
628
00:29:25,497 --> 00:29:27,366
called authorities.
629
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:30,402
I come home and sit down to
dinner at about 9:30, quarter
630
00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:31,570
to 10:00.
631
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,006
And I flipped on
the TV, and there
632
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:39,678
was this black-and-white photo
of Gordon MacIntyre, my tenant.
633
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:41,080
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Once in custody,
634
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:43,182
the suspect vehemently
insisted that he
635
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:45,517
truly was Gordon MacIntyre.
636
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,820
But fingerprints soon
confirmed that he
637
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,122
was in fact Gerald Gervasoni.
638
00:29:53,692 --> 00:29:55,794
At the local airport,
Gervasoni tried
639
00:29:55,895 --> 00:29:57,897
to avoid photographers
as he was hustled
640
00:29:57,997 --> 00:29:59,932
on to a waiting airplane.
641
00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:01,834
He was then flown
to a deportation
642
00:30:01,934 --> 00:30:04,136
hearing in Victoria, Canada.
643
00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:07,573
Gervasoni will be held there
pending extradition to Florida,
644
00:30:07,673 --> 00:30:10,509
where he will face charges in
the murder of Paula Pasciak.
645
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:13,913
[music playing]
646
00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:26,092
[theme music]
647
00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:27,559
Alex, don't play
with the tree.
648
00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,495
Come on.
649
00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:32,965
On the evening
of October 2, 1961,
650
00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,601
Mr. And Mrs. Earl Betcher
and their youngest son,
651
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:37,503
Alan, were leaving
Baptist Hospital
652
00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:38,770
in Jacksonville, Florida.
653
00:30:38,871 --> 00:30:40,006
Mom, I'm going to the car.
654
00:30:40,106 --> 00:30:41,273
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The Betchers
655
00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,042
had been visiting one
of their other sons,
656
00:30:43,142 --> 00:30:47,713
and could never have imagined
the surprise that awaited them.
657
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:50,616
EARL BETCHER: Yeah, but I think
he'll get better if they do.
658
00:30:50,716 --> 00:30:52,518
Mom, mom, there's a baby
in the back of our car.
659
00:30:52,618 --> 00:30:53,385
Alan, come on.
660
00:30:53,485 --> 00:30:54,520
Alan, that's not very funny.
661
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:55,888
No, mom, I'm--
I'm serious.
662
00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:56,788
There's a baby in the car.
663
00:30:56,889 --> 00:30:59,959
Come look.
664
00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:01,460
[inaudible]
665
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,896
[cries]
666
00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:04,897
Oh my god.
667
00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:10,402
Sh, sh, sh.
668
00:31:10,502 --> 00:31:11,303
Aw.
669
00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:16,909
Did you-- did you
see anybody around?
670
00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:18,144
No.
671
00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:19,611
OK, OK, let's-- let's
take her into the hospital.
672
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,348
Come on
673
00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:23,749
EARL BETCHER: Is she
gonna be all right?
674
00:31:23,849 --> 00:31:25,117
DOCTOR: I believe so.
I don't--
675
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:26,718
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Betchers had found
676
00:31:26,818 --> 00:31:29,788
a healthy baby girl, no
more than 72 hours old,
677
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:33,960
and weighing 8 and 1/2 pounds.
678
00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:37,496
Local papers dubbed the
foundling Baby Girl X.
679
00:31:37,596 --> 00:31:40,332
She lived in foster homes
for five and a half months
680
00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:42,634
before she was adopted
by Mary Lou and William
681
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:45,071
Christie of Tallahassee.
682
00:31:45,171 --> 00:31:47,606
The Christies named their
new daughter Terris--
683
00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:50,609
Terri for short.
684
00:31:50,709 --> 00:31:52,711
Terry grew up
happily, doted upon
685
00:31:52,811 --> 00:31:56,148
by her parents and her
older brother and sister.
686
00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:57,950
Terri always knew
she was adopted,
687
00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:00,686
but not until she was a
teenager did she begin
688
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,122
to ask the difficult questions.
689
00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:05,057
Who was their birth mother?
690
00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:07,526
Why had she given her up?
691
00:32:07,626 --> 00:32:14,266
I kind of rebelled and
wanted to know, you know?
692
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:17,036
That's when we went to the
library and looked it up.
693
00:32:17,136 --> 00:32:17,936
And then I got excited.
694
00:32:18,037 --> 00:32:21,007
I was proud, you know?
695
00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:26,445
And when she pressured
me about her parents,
696
00:32:26,545 --> 00:32:29,548
I had the big--
697
00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:34,953
the big problem about whether to
tell her the truth as I knew it
698
00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:38,624
or whether to say I
didn't know anything.
699
00:32:38,724 --> 00:32:42,961
And I really wrestled with it.
700
00:32:43,062 --> 00:32:48,067
And then I came out with that
I'd be safe to be truthful.
701
00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:49,068
Do you think that's it?
702
00:32:49,168 --> 00:32:50,336
I think you're right, look.
703
00:32:50,436 --> 00:32:51,903
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At the local library,
704
00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:54,873
Terry and Mary Lou tracked
down all the newspaper articles
705
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:58,877
about Baby Girl X. Terri
was surprised to learn
706
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,847
that she had been left
in the backseat of a car.
707
00:33:01,947 --> 00:33:04,516
Nevertheless, she trusts
that her birth mother had
708
00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:06,452
her best interests at heart.
709
00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:07,719
TERRIS CHRISTIE
DERBY (VOICEOVER):
710
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:11,057
She might have been a 15,
16-year-old little scared
711
00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:13,925
girl that had a baby
and ran away from home.
712
00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:15,761
MARY LOU CHRISTIE: Look, look.
There's the picture.
713
00:33:15,861 --> 00:33:16,528
TERRIS CHRISTIE
DERBY (VOICEOVER):
714
00:33:16,628 --> 00:33:17,563
I believe she had a heart.
715
00:33:17,663 --> 00:33:19,598
She put me somewhere
safe, where I was
716
00:33:19,698 --> 00:33:21,167
gonna be well taken care of.
717
00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:23,602
And I appreciate that.
718
00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:27,206
She was probably watching
them when the little boy
719
00:33:27,306 --> 00:33:28,407
came and found me in the car.
720
00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:30,176
She was probably standing
there, watching it.
721
00:33:30,276 --> 00:33:31,777
Did you-- did you
see anybody around?
722
00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:32,711
No.
723
00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:34,113
TERRIS CHRISTIE
DERBY: It bothers
724
00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:38,050
me not knowing exactly what day
I was born, the time, you know?
725
00:33:38,150 --> 00:33:39,418
Where I was born.
726
00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:44,790
I don't even know if I was born
in a hospital, by a midwife,
727
00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:45,691
in a car.
728
00:33:45,791 --> 00:33:47,226
You know, I have no idea.
729
00:33:47,326 --> 00:33:48,627
I just-- I would like
to find that out.
730
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:52,531
Well, I'll have to go--
731
00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:53,865
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Today, Terri
732
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:57,069
is 32 years old, the mother
of a young son and daughter.
733
00:33:57,169 --> 00:34:00,906
She wants her children to have
a heritage, to know their roots.
734
00:34:01,006 --> 00:34:02,708
They're all down in there.
735
00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:05,010
I would like to
find a beginning.
736
00:34:05,111 --> 00:34:07,846
I just want to meet
her and see how she is.
737
00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:10,216
I don't know, I'm getting older.
738
00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:13,685
And I look at my kids and
see how they're growing.
739
00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:17,723
And I look in the mirror
every day and I wonder.
740
00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:23,195
Thanks to our broadcast,
Terri Christie Derby
741
00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:26,332
now knows the answers
to all of her questions.
742
00:34:26,432 --> 00:34:28,434
Sadly, Terri's birth
mother, Edith Campbell,
743
00:34:28,534 --> 00:34:31,803
died on August 17,
1993, just a few months
744
00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:34,140
before our segment aired.
745
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:37,443
But out of this sadness a
happy ending did emerge.
746
00:34:37,543 --> 00:34:39,211
Terri was delighted
to learn that she had
747
00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:41,447
a sister and three brothers.
748
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:43,315
They were delighted as well.
749
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,351
None of them had ever
known that Terri existed.
750
00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:53,625
On July 8, 1994, Terri went
to a hotel in Miami, Florida
751
00:34:53,725 --> 00:34:57,729
to meet three of her siblings,
Philip, Paul, and Cecelia, face
752
00:34:57,829 --> 00:35:01,633
to face for the first time.
753
00:35:01,733 --> 00:35:03,702
PHILLIP CAMPBELL: Hey.
754
00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:04,603
Hi.
755
00:35:04,703 --> 00:35:05,571
Hi, Terri.
756
00:35:05,671 --> 00:35:06,705
Hey, Terri.
757
00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:07,773
How are you?
758
00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:10,309
It was the neatest
experience of my life.
759
00:35:10,409 --> 00:35:11,710
I walked in and there was--
760
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:12,944
Greetings.
Paul.
761
00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:14,580
TERRIS CHRISTIE DERBY:
--everybody I wanted to see.
762
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,747
Hey, Paul.
763
00:35:15,847 --> 00:35:20,018
Next to me giving
birth to my own kids,
764
00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:22,721
this is the best thing
that's ever happened to me.
765
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:25,191
Best thing.
766
00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:28,093
My-- my experience is
that there's more than just
767
00:35:28,194 --> 00:35:29,728
a biological thing in a family.
768
00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,964
There's also a-- a karmic--
769
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:36,602
a sense of underlying
destiny that lies
770
00:35:36,702 --> 00:35:37,869
underneath the whole thing.
771
00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,805
And this, you know--
you meet somebody--
772
00:35:39,905 --> 00:35:43,074
I meet Terri and it's
like, she is my sister.
773
00:35:43,175 --> 00:35:44,843
I knew it right away, you know?
774
00:35:44,943 --> 00:35:46,612
There's no doubt.
775
00:35:46,712 --> 00:35:47,946
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At the reunion,
776
00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:49,848
Terri and her adoptive
mother finally
777
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,518
saw a picture of Terri's
biological mother,
778
00:35:52,618 --> 00:35:54,186
Edith Campbell.
779
00:35:54,286 --> 00:35:57,789
According to a family member,
Edith had given Terri up only
780
00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:01,860
because of extreme
financial desperation.
781
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,195
Knowing what a--
782
00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:06,232
what a loving
person she was, she
783
00:36:06,332 --> 00:36:09,868
cared about nothing but her
children her whole life.
784
00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:14,306
And I can only imagine
the anguish that--
785
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:17,008
that she went through when
she decided to do this.
786
00:36:17,108 --> 00:36:17,909
Hey.
787
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:19,278
Hi, I'm [inaudible].
788
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:19,911
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Husband.
789
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:20,646
Nice to meet you.
790
00:36:20,746 --> 00:36:21,847
Hi.
791
00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:23,181
TERRIS CHRISTIE DERBY:
They make me feel wanted.
792
00:36:23,282 --> 00:36:25,384
They make me feel like
I'm not an outcast.
793
00:36:25,484 --> 00:36:27,853
Like, I kind of felt like I
was, you know, in the past.
794
00:36:27,953 --> 00:36:36,127
But I-- I can feel their vibes,
love, whatever, you know?
795
00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:38,129
It's kind of cool.
796
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:39,197
Come on, let's go.
797
00:36:39,298 --> 00:36:40,098
Let's go over here.
798
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,166
Come on.
799
00:36:41,267 --> 00:36:42,401
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next day,
800
00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:43,769
Terri met her other
brother, Chris,
801
00:36:43,869 --> 00:36:45,704
who had been called
out of town on business
802
00:36:45,804 --> 00:36:46,705
on the day of the reunion.
803
00:36:46,805 --> 00:36:47,606
That's right.
804
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,576
Snuggle up, brothers and sister.
805
00:36:50,676 --> 00:36:51,810
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At last,
806
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:53,312
the family circle is complete.
807
00:36:58,116 --> 00:37:01,453
[theme music]
808
00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:08,360
In the fall of 1993,
the entire country
809
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,862
was touched when
12-year-old Polly Klaas was
810
00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:13,332
abducted from her home
in northern California
811
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:16,535
and savagely murdered.
812
00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:18,804
Thousands of copies of
this composite sketch
813
00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:20,906
were distributed by police.
814
00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:22,974
In the end, its
stunning accuracy
815
00:37:23,074 --> 00:37:25,611
helped confirm the identity
of the prime suspect,
816
00:37:25,711 --> 00:37:28,079
Richard Allen Davis.
817
00:37:28,179 --> 00:37:30,649
Davis is now in jail,
charged with the kidnap
818
00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,250
and murder of Polly Klaas.
819
00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:37,689
Law enforcement's secret
weapon in the Klaas case
820
00:37:37,789 --> 00:37:41,793
was this woman, suspect
graphic artist Jeanne Boylan.
821
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:44,863
These days, the FBI and
numerous local jurisdictions
822
00:37:44,963 --> 00:37:46,732
compete for her time.
823
00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:49,801
Jeanne Boylan has come a
long way from her first job
824
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:51,169
in law enforcement.
825
00:37:54,406 --> 00:37:57,576
In the mid-1970s, Jeanne worked
at the Sheriff's Department
826
00:37:57,676 --> 00:38:00,245
in Multnomah County, Oregon.
827
00:38:00,346 --> 00:38:02,113
The job gave her a
close-up look at how
828
00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:04,115
suspects' sketches were made.
829
00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:07,085
In many cases, Jeanne
didn't like what she saw.
830
00:38:07,185 --> 00:38:08,186
MAN: Yeah, it was
more like that.
831
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:09,421
MAN: More like that?
MAN: Yeah.
832
00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:10,322
MAN: Maybe like that?
833
00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:11,690
No, more like that one.
834
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,292
JEANNE BOYLAN: I would hear the
way that investigators would
835
00:38:14,393 --> 00:38:16,628
question witnesses or victims.
836
00:38:16,728 --> 00:38:18,296
And I could-- I could
hear that they weren't
837
00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:19,865
allowing them to answer.
838
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,099
They would cut the answers off.
839
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,868
It was kind of just the facts.
840
00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,536
And I-- that--
841
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:26,705
that seemed to me to be wrong.
842
00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:28,940
And then I would see the
drawings that would be produced
843
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,176
either through an identikit
or through an artist,
844
00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:32,644
and I knew that
they weren't right.
845
00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:34,780
There was something in terms
of-- something in terms
846
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,947
of the heart,
really, that was sort
847
00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:39,017
of missing in those pictures.
848
00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:40,852
Would you put any other
shape around the eyes?
849
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,388
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jeanne was convinced
850
00:38:42,488 --> 00:38:43,789
that she could do better.
851
00:38:43,889 --> 00:38:46,658
And in 1980, she got her chance.
852
00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:50,228
A supervisor gave Jeanne one
of his most difficult cases,
853
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:52,564
an unsolved rape that
had languished for months
854
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:55,066
with virtually no leads.
855
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,302
I can't remember any more.
856
00:38:57,403 --> 00:38:58,770
It's OK.
857
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,539
I was trying a lot of
different interview techniques.
858
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:03,341
And-- and I found that if I used
sort of a diversionary system
859
00:39:03,442 --> 00:39:05,276
of interviewing, where we
would kind of circumvent
860
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:08,246
the-- the events of the crime
and the scenario of the crime,
861
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:11,850
and talk about other topics,
and I could relax them,
862
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:15,387
then periodically this
information would surface.
863
00:39:15,487 --> 00:39:18,790
You know, I just
remembered something.
864
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:22,628
He had a scar, and it
started on his forehead,
865
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:24,996
and it led back into his hair.
866
00:39:25,096 --> 00:39:26,865
JEANNE BOYLAN: It's like the
tip-of-the-tongue syndrome,
867
00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:28,366
where you have somebody's
name that's right
868
00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,035
there and you're
trying to remember it.
869
00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:31,269
You can't bring it up.
870
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:33,271
And maybe two or three hours
later, you stop trying,
871
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,306
and it just pops into your mind.
872
00:39:35,407 --> 00:39:36,875
I just remembered
something else too.
873
00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:39,778
Um, he had a wide face.
874
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:41,613
JEANNE BOYLAN (VOICEOVER):
I knew that the drawing that
875
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:43,214
had been done on that
case prior to the one
876
00:39:43,314 --> 00:39:45,250
that I was doing
was-- was wrong.
877
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:46,885
So what we came up
with was so radically
878
00:39:46,985 --> 00:39:50,489
different, that that was sort
of fresh hope for that case.
879
00:39:50,589 --> 00:39:51,990
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jeanne was right.
880
00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:53,825
As a direct result
of her composite,
881
00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:56,928
the suspect was arrested
and later convicted.
882
00:39:57,028 --> 00:40:00,031
More cases followed, and
Jeanne's reputation grew.
883
00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,736
I've seen a lot of the
work Jeanne Boylan has done,
884
00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:05,971
and very impressed.
885
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,607
It's the best artist's
conceptions I've ever seen.
886
00:40:08,707 --> 00:40:14,012
And if there-- we ever have a
chance of catching the person
887
00:40:14,112 --> 00:40:15,681
we're looking for through
an artist's conception,
888
00:40:15,781 --> 00:40:20,786
I think Jeanne Boylan is
gonna give us that chance.
889
00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:22,621
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Most recently, the FBI
890
00:40:22,721 --> 00:40:24,856
turned to Jeanne Boylan
in the troubling case
891
00:40:24,956 --> 00:40:30,361
of 16-year-old Jonathan Francia
of Albuquerque, New Mexico.
892
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:33,331
On January 12,
1994, Jonathan was
893
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,067
in his car behind this
restaurant in Albuquerque
894
00:40:36,167 --> 00:40:38,236
when two strangers abducted him.
895
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:44,676
Five days later, a body believed
to be Jonathan's was found,
896
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,745
charred almost
beyond recognition
897
00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:49,147
in the trunk of
his burned-out car.
898
00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:53,785
One of the killers, known only
as Jason, is still at large.
899
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:54,753
[knocking]
900
00:40:56,254 --> 00:40:58,857
Investigators asked Jeanne to
meet with a key witness, Scott
901
00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:00,125
Johnston.
902
00:41:00,225 --> 00:41:01,860
Hi.
Yeah, I'm Jeanne Boylan.
903
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,495
- Come in.
- Yeah, nice to meet you.
904
00:41:03,595 --> 00:41:05,597
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He had
innocently spent several hours
905
00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:07,566
with the killers at
his home in a Winslow,
906
00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:10,201
Arizona trailer park.
907
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:11,970
This is a simple process.
908
00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:13,271
I don't want you
to worry about it.
909
00:41:13,371 --> 00:41:15,006
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Jeanne instinctively began
910
00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:19,110
to assess Scott's
potential as an eyewitness.
911
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:20,111
JEANNE BOYLAN: Scott is--
912
00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:21,847
he's a very interesting man.
913
00:41:21,947 --> 00:41:23,281
Visual things are
very important to him.
914
00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,817
You can tell in the way that he
dresses and he combs his hair.
915
00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:28,319
And, you know, he takes-- he
takes some care in the way
916
00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:30,856
that he looks, which
was the first cue to me
917
00:41:30,956 --> 00:41:34,259
that I would be able to work
in a visual context with him.
918
00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:36,227
So one thing that
I did was I got out
919
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:39,230
some Play-Doh, something to
anchor him in the present,
920
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:42,133
and gave it to him for
him to actually work on
921
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:44,202
or to-- to play with
and sort of feel,
922
00:41:44,302 --> 00:41:45,470
to keep him in the moment.
923
00:41:45,571 --> 00:41:48,239
[inaudible] more
in the longer.
924
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:49,908
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
As Scott told his story,
925
00:41:50,008 --> 00:41:54,846
Jeanne began to sketch the
fugitive killer named Jason.
926
00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:59,117
Scott had met Jason
on January 13, 1994.
927
00:41:59,217 --> 00:42:00,886
That day, a friend
of Scott's named
928
00:42:00,986 --> 00:42:03,021
Trena Richardson was
staying at the trailer,
929
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:05,691
along with her three children.
930
00:42:05,791 --> 00:42:07,759
They were awaiting the
arrival of Trena's husband,
931
00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:10,261
Paul, who was going to Alabama.
932
00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:13,464
He pulled in at around 6:00
AM, accompanied by a stranger.
933
00:42:17,636 --> 00:42:19,437
Scott, what's happening?
934
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,438
Not much.
935
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:21,873
This is Jason.
936
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:22,774
Hi.
937
00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:23,675
How's it going?
938
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:24,776
Come in.
939
00:42:24,876 --> 00:42:28,546
My first impression
of Jason was, oh boy,
940
00:42:28,647 --> 00:42:30,849
this guy dresses like a cowboy.
941
00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:33,018
You know, the long, slender--
942
00:42:33,118 --> 00:42:37,956
kind of attracted-- the girls
would be attracted to him.
943
00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:42,527
He had the velvet hat, the
long hair, and the jacket,
944
00:42:42,628 --> 00:42:45,330
and the-- and the
jeans, and kind
945
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:47,532
of, like, worn-out tennies.
946
00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:48,834
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Scott noticed
947
00:42:48,934 --> 00:42:50,669
something else about Jason--
948
00:42:50,769 --> 00:42:55,540
something he would not truly
understand until much later.
949
00:42:55,641 --> 00:42:57,008
I looked down and
I noticed his hand.
950
00:42:57,108 --> 00:43:00,345
It was kind of, like,
red, kind of clay type.
951
00:43:00,445 --> 00:43:02,147
I thought it was
just, you know, dirt.
952
00:43:02,247 --> 00:43:03,081
But apparently it was blood.
953
00:43:05,984 --> 00:43:07,485
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Soon after he arrived,
954
00:43:07,585 --> 00:43:09,087
Jason took a shower--
955
00:43:09,187 --> 00:43:12,891
the only time Scott
saw him without a hat.
956
00:43:12,991 --> 00:43:14,159
Ashtray?
957
00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:16,662
Tell me a little bit
about how you would
958
00:43:16,762 --> 00:43:18,396
put the placement of the hair?
959
00:43:18,496 --> 00:43:20,065
I'd place the hair
kind of, like, long
960
00:43:20,165 --> 00:43:21,967
in back and over the ears--
961
00:43:22,067 --> 00:43:24,836
I had no idea that anything was,
you know, wrong, like any crime
962
00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:26,071
has been committed.
963
00:43:26,171 --> 00:43:33,078
Um, I was just going along,
just like my everyday,
964
00:43:33,178 --> 00:43:36,581
you know, normal routine,
and they were too.
965
00:43:36,682 --> 00:43:38,616
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Scott
told Jeanne that he and Trena
966
00:43:38,717 --> 00:43:40,952
went out to run
errands around 9:00 AM,
967
00:43:41,052 --> 00:43:44,723
leaving Paul and
Jason at the trailer.
968
00:43:44,823 --> 00:43:46,557
SCOTT JOHNSTON (VOICEOVER):
We came back, pulled up,
969
00:43:46,658 --> 00:43:49,427
and that's when they
were washing the car.
970
00:43:49,527 --> 00:43:51,296
So as we pulled up, they saw us.
971
00:43:51,396 --> 00:43:54,900
And they shut the trunk.
972
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,104
And they acted like they didn't
want us to see what was in it.
973
00:43:59,204 --> 00:44:00,371
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At the time,
974
00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:03,875
Scott had no idea that the
body of Jonathan Francia
975
00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:05,276
was in the trunk.
976
00:44:05,376 --> 00:44:07,212
Scott, you've got a gas can?
977
00:44:07,312 --> 00:44:08,646
No, but I can go borrow one.
978
00:44:08,747 --> 00:44:09,848
OK.
979
00:44:09,948 --> 00:44:11,416
SCOTT JOHNSTON (VOICEOVER):
So I went next door,
980
00:44:11,516 --> 00:44:12,784
got the gas can, and came back.
981
00:44:12,884 --> 00:44:16,421
And that's when Trena, Paul,
and Jason were outside, talking.
982
00:44:16,521 --> 00:44:18,189
We've got to take
care of [inaudible].
983
00:44:18,289 --> 00:44:19,124
Why?
984
00:44:19,224 --> 00:44:20,425
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): An hour
985
00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:22,060
later, Trena and Paul said
they were leaving to escort
986
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,463
Jason to the main highway.
987
00:44:25,563 --> 00:44:27,165
SCOTT JOHNSTON: That was
the last time I saw Jason.
988
00:44:27,265 --> 00:44:30,135
I thought that he went back
to wherever he was-- you know,
989
00:44:30,235 --> 00:44:31,536
maybe to Dallas or
maybe to somewhere
990
00:44:31,636 --> 00:44:33,671
else, where he has-- you know,
where he told me he was from.
991
00:44:36,341 --> 00:44:38,309
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Four days later, local police
992
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:41,379
followed an eyewitness report
to a remote corner of the desert
993
00:44:41,479 --> 00:44:44,015
some 30 miles from
Scott's trailer.
994
00:44:44,115 --> 00:44:46,051
There, they found the
burned-out automobile
995
00:44:46,151 --> 00:44:51,356
and the charred remains
believed to be Jonathan Francia.
996
00:44:51,456 --> 00:44:53,358
He said he was from Dallas.
997
00:44:53,458 --> 00:44:55,293
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Paul
Richardson who was arrested
998
00:44:55,393 --> 00:44:57,262
just over two weeks later.
999
00:44:57,362 --> 00:44:59,564
Under questioning
by the FBI, Paul
1000
00:44:59,664 --> 00:45:02,500
admitted that he and Jason
had abducted and then
1001
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,136
murdered Jonathan Francia.
- --kid in a--
1002
00:45:05,236 --> 00:45:08,106
a car behind a restaurant.
1003
00:45:08,206 --> 00:45:11,376
We took it.
1004
00:45:11,476 --> 00:45:13,244
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two
days after his confession,
1005
00:45:13,344 --> 00:45:15,814
Paul Richardson committed
suicide by hanging
1006
00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:17,916
himself in his jail cell.
1007
00:45:18,016 --> 00:45:23,288
Finding the remaining killer
is now up to Jeanne Boylan.
1008
00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,723
Would you create a
division between the brows?
1009
00:45:25,824 --> 00:45:27,225
Would you have it connected?
1010
00:45:27,325 --> 00:45:28,326
I have it kind of--
1011
00:45:28,426 --> 00:45:29,560
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Authorities
1012
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,030
are counting on Jeanne's
unique interviewing skills
1013
00:45:32,130 --> 00:45:34,699
and artistic talent
to help them flush out
1014
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,467
the mysterious drifter Jason.
1015
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:37,435
--down to the surface?
1016
00:45:37,535 --> 00:45:41,006
[inaudible] a little bit.
1017
00:45:41,106 --> 00:45:44,275
When I first seen
the composite, it
1018
00:45:44,375 --> 00:45:46,077
looked pretty much
like the same person
1019
00:45:46,177 --> 00:45:49,214
I've seen in the--
in the trailer.
1020
00:45:49,314 --> 00:45:50,381
Pretty, pretty close.
1021
00:45:53,218 --> 00:45:57,055
I was amazed at how well
it, you know, turned out.
1022
00:45:57,155 --> 00:45:59,858
I never thought I could
remember that much.
1023
00:45:59,958 --> 00:46:01,659
That's him.
1024
00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:03,328
OK.
1025
00:46:03,428 --> 00:46:05,897
OK, is there anything
else you'd add to it?
1026
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:09,634
I believe that Ms. Boylan
has a magician's touch
1027
00:46:09,734 --> 00:46:13,371
in dealing with witnesses who--
1028
00:46:13,471 --> 00:46:20,611
and has a way of just extracting
a-- a photo from their mind,
1029
00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:22,780
if you will.
1030
00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:25,116
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): These
are Jeanne's sketches of Jason,
1031
00:46:25,216 --> 00:46:29,054
based on Scott
Johnston's description.
1032
00:46:29,154 --> 00:46:31,756
BETTY FRANCIA: When I first
saw the composite drawing,
1033
00:46:31,857 --> 00:46:35,693
I felt a lot of anger,
because all this time there's
1034
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:36,794
not really been a picture.
1035
00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:43,301
And now there's a face,
and there's a real
1036
00:46:43,401 --> 00:46:47,205
person up there who
killed my son and who
1037
00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,941
might kill somebody else's.
1038
00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:52,277
LARRY FRANCIA: It would
settle our hearts a little,
1039
00:46:52,377 --> 00:46:56,014
give us a little ease in our
heart, [inaudible] to the fact
1040
00:46:56,114 --> 00:47:00,585
that we can't
bring our son back,
1041
00:47:00,685 --> 00:47:03,354
but it'll put him
where he belongs.
1042
00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:05,590
And that's what we need.
1043
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:08,927
That's what we need.
1044
00:47:09,027 --> 00:47:11,062
I think, you know,
if there's some way
1045
00:47:11,162 --> 00:47:14,832
that this contribution can
help bring some peace to them,
1046
00:47:14,933 --> 00:47:16,935
then I would--
1047
00:47:17,035 --> 00:47:19,537
I would be delighted.
1048
00:47:19,637 --> 00:47:21,272
You know, you just want
to do whatever you can do,
1049
00:47:21,372 --> 00:47:22,473
and this is all I can do.
1050
00:47:24,943 --> 00:47:26,144
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In all,
1051
00:47:26,244 --> 00:47:29,314
Jeanne drew three portraits
of the man known as Jason.
1052
00:47:29,414 --> 00:47:31,849
Authorities believe he
has relatives in Pinetop
1053
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:35,386
or Payson, Arizona
and Dallas, Texas.
1054
00:47:35,486 --> 00:47:39,925
Jason is described as 5'10,
mid 20's, medium build.
1055
00:47:40,025 --> 00:47:43,561
He smokes, chews tobacco, and
wears Western-style clothes,
1056
00:47:43,661 --> 00:47:47,532
including a horsehair belt.
1057
00:47:47,632 --> 00:47:49,267
The man calling
himself Jason has
1058
00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,536
also used other first names.
1059
00:47:51,636 --> 00:47:54,272
He supposedly frequents Las
Vegas and homeless shelters
1060
00:47:54,372 --> 00:47:56,007
in Laughlin, Nevada.
1061
00:47:56,107 --> 00:47:59,077
Jason should be regarded
as extremely dangerous.
1062
00:47:59,177 --> 00:48:02,413
[theme music]
1063
00:48:06,784 --> 00:48:10,488
On our next "Unsolved
Mysteries," in Chicago,
1064
00:48:10,588 --> 00:48:13,724
a mysterious young woman has
charmed eligible bachelors,
1065
00:48:13,824 --> 00:48:16,061
bewitched cab drivers,
and haunted taverns
1066
00:48:16,161 --> 00:48:18,163
and dance halls for decades.
1067
00:48:18,263 --> 00:48:19,664
But there is something
very different
1068
00:48:19,764 --> 00:48:21,832
about this pale,
alluring beauty.
1069
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:24,635
Can you guess what it is?
1070
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,438
Also, one of our most
poignant updates.
1071
00:48:27,538 --> 00:48:30,375
Years ago, two strangers
rescued a young mother
1072
00:48:30,475 --> 00:48:32,110
from a fiery car crash.
1073
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,245
Your calls led to their
heartwarming reunion.
1074
00:48:36,881 --> 00:48:38,883
Join me next time
for another hour
1075
00:48:38,984 --> 00:48:41,319
of fascinating and
intriguing mysteries.
1076
00:48:41,419 --> 00:48:44,655
[music playing]
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