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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
December 12, 1985.
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A chartered plane
went down in flames
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outside Gander,
Newfoundland, Canada,
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killing 248 American soldiers.
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Officially, the crash was
ruled an accident caused by ice
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on the wings, but eyewitnesses
tell of intense fires that
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could bot be extinguished and
a mysterious cache of weapons
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recovered from the wreckage.
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For the young GIs had fallen
victim to a terrorist bomb.
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As a child, Peggie
Lloyd was haunted
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by the elusive vision of a
brother she barely remembered.
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Finally, the discovery
of an old snapshot
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launched Peggie on a
determined quest for answers.
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Perhaps you can
help end her search
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for her long lost brother.
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The terrible tragedy
in Waco, Texas
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has focused the
nation's attention
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on a scattering of religious
cults across the United States.
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In one cult, unrelated to
the Branch Davidian sect,
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Nelson DeCloud was seen as a
dynamic, charismatic messenger
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of God by his followers.
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However, According to one
member who fled the cult,
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DeCloud used his
position to demand
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sexual favors from some of
the women in his congregation.
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Also tonight, a moving
and joyous update.
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Thanks to our
broadcast, two childhood
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friends separated for more than
30 years have been reunited.
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Joined me for these fascinating
stories in tonight's Unsolved
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Mysteries.
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[theme music]
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These men were members of
the elite the 101st Airborne
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unit of the United States Army.
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On December 12, 1985, they were
among 248 young soldiers cut
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down in their prime,
all killed instantly
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when their transport
plane crashed
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in Gander, Newfoundland.
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It was the worst
single air disaster
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in US military history.
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Officially, the crash
was written off to ice
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on the plane's wings, but many
of the young men's families,
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as well as several
key investigators,
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believe that the true
cause of the Gander tragedy
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remains an unsolved mystery.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On December 11, 1985,
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the 101st Airborne left Cairo,
Egypt on a chartered Arrow
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Air DC8 much like this one.
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They were going home to
Fort Campbell, Kentucky
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after a six month peacekeeping
mission in the Sinai.
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Following one stop
in Germany, they
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landed for refueling
at the Gander,
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Newfoundland Airport in Canada.
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An hour later, just after
takeoff, tragedy struck.
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The DC8 crashed less
than three miles
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from the Gander control tower,
killing everyone on board.
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The wreckage was scattered
over an area 3,500
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feet long and 130 feet wide.
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Almost immediately,
a man purporting
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to represent the terrorist
organization Islamic Jihad
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telephoned the US
consulate in Algeria
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to claim responsibility.
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Nevertheless, US army
officials who arrived in Gander
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within hours quickly
discounted the possibility
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of terrorist involvement.
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Later, a Canadian
board of inquiry
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stated that ice on the plane's
wings had brought it down.
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However, four of the
board's nine members
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publicly descended,
insisting that ice
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did not cause the crash.
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There was certainly
some kind of an explosion.
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And a small explosion
that disabled the control
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system that led to
the sequence of events
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that led to this disaster.
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But what caused that explosion,
whether it was sabotage
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or whether it was the accidental
detonation of some kind
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of military equipment that was
carried against regulations,
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we really don't have a better
idea than we had in 1988.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The dissenters
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were particularly disturbed
by the pulverized state
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of the wreckage.
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Usually in a takeoff crash,
large sections of the plane
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remain intact, and many
passengers survive.
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A normal kind of takeoff
accident can be quite serious
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and can involve a fire,
but basically the aircraft
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isn't completely destroyed.
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You usually don't
have a huge explosion
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because when the
tanks are full, it
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doesn't give the fuel a
chance to mix with oxygen
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like you need for an explosion.
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You get an explosion
when the aircraft crashes
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with partial tanks,
and takeoff accidents
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are usually survivable.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The US government
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claimed there was no
evidence that an on board
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explosion had caused the crash.
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They steadfastly denied that
either explosives or ammunition
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had been carried as cargo.
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Eyewitness reports
from the Cairo airport,
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however, cast doubt on
the government's position.
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The 101st Airborne
waited for eight hours
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while they were transferred
to a larger plane.
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In the process, the
duffel bags of 41 soldiers
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were left behind on
the tarmac to make room
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for several large wooden boxes.
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Many believe the boxes
contained some type
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of classified weapons.
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At the Gander crash site, one of
the rescue workers, Harvey Day,
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says he saw five wooden boxes.
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Sir, that's as
far as you can go.
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HARVEY: I decided to walk down
to see what was in this area.
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When I got about
10 feet from it,
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this military guy
walked up towards me.
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He said, you'd better go back.
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He said, you're not
allowed down there.
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But I stopped and looked,
and I saw what people are
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beginning to say didn't exist.
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I saw five large wooden boxes.
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They were black, a bit
burnt from the fire.
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And I saw arms, rifles, and
I saw things like missiles
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and little metal boxes.
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They looked like
ammunition boxes.
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And it was all
piled up very neatly
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into this cordoned off area.
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Sir, I can't answer that.
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This is military business.
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You do not need to know
any of that at all.
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You can just go on back.
- No, no, no.
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I just want to see what--
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Sir, you don't
have to see anything.
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This is official
military business.
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If you don't leave,
I'll have you removed
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by force from the premises.
Now just go on.
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All right, all right.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In addition,
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Day recalls one unusual hot
spot resulting from the crash.
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HARVEY (VOICEOVER): And
there was two firefighters,
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and they had a continuous
stream of water onto this pile.
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And I thought it very peculiar.
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And I walked over to
one chap, and I asked--
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What's going on, eh?
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It keeps flaring up.
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We're gonna have to keep
pouring water on it.
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It's that bad?
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HARVEY (VOICEOVER): The
minute he took the water away,
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it just flared back up again.
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We've got to do this, he said.
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Until it burns out or it cools
down to the point where were
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can remove what's there.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Within weeks,
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Harvey Day and several
other rescue workers
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began to complain
of health problems.
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To some, the symptoms
sounded suspiciously
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like radiation poisoning.
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I think we had
over 30 who described
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some type of malady or sickness
as a result of the crash.
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And they ranged
from liver problems
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to what people thought
were heart attacks and just
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general illnesses.
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And this is what
was checked out.
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And it got to be rather scary.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): According
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to one unnamed source, the
United States government
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allegedly sealed its crash
investigation records
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for a period of 70 years.
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However, several
government agencies,
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including the Department
of Defense and the National
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Transportation
Safety Board, deny
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that any such records exist.
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We know that the files
on the Gander incident
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would not be sealed for 70
years if it were simply ice.
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We know that there had to
be something very, very
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politically embarrassing
that could have been very
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harmful to the Reagan
administration, that
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had to be covered up.
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As one family
member put it, she
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wants to know if her family
member died protecting
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this country, or if he died
because our government was
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protecting itself.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In the early 1980s,
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the United States government
had begun illegally selling arms
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to Iran in a covert
and byzantine operation
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now known as Iran-Contra.
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The operation, ostensibly aimed
at freeing American hostages
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in the Middle East, was
apparently in jeopardy
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at the time of the Gander crash.
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National Security Council.
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I assumed that the president--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Just a few days
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before the crash, Colonel
Oliver North warned in at least
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two separate memos that
the United States risked,
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quote, "a renewed
wave of terrorism.
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A US reversal now could
ignite Iranian fire.
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The hostages would be
our minimum losses."
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Whatever happened
in Gander I believe,
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would have either caused
political embarrassment,
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or an international
incident, or both.
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And whatever the reason was
for the cover up in 1985 still
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exists today.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
US government
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investigators did appear
to be behaving strangely.
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First off, the crash site was
bulldozed within three months--
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a highly unusual practice.
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The US Army says
it was done simply
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to discourage souvenir hunters.
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Secondly, the
remains of the plane
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were quickly disposed
of, buried in a dump.
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Again, highly unusual procedure.
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As a rule, downed airplanes
are virtually reassembled
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in order to study the crash.
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One of the young men who
lost his life at Gander
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was 23-year-old
Sergeant James Douglas
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Phillips, the only
son of Dr. Douglas
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Phillips, a pathologist.
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Disillusioned by the official
reports, Dr. Phillips
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and his wife Azona formed an
organization called Families
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for Truth about Gander.
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They requested several
scrapped sections from the DC8,
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and were surprised when
the government sent them.
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An expert hired to
analyze the scraps,
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claimed the outward
puckered edges
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showed that a blast had indeed
occurred inside the plane.
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I think the airplane exploded
in midair and then went down
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and it hit the ground
with a gigantic fireball
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ensuing upon hitting,
when the fuel ignited.
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But there's no doubt
in my mind that there
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was a fire or an explosion while
the plane was still in flight.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Dr. Phillips turned
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up one final chilling fact.
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Autopsies revealed that
many of the dead soldiers
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had a significant amount
of carbon monoxide
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in their bodies.
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The toxicology report showed
that the victims had indeed
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breathed in carbon
monoxide prior to the plane
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hitting the ground
and exploding.
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This had to be from a
detonation, a fire or explosion
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on board the craft.
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I guess the thing
that bothers me the most
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is there are people out
there living ordinarily--
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ordinary day life, going about
their business and their jobs,
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and they know what happened.
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And they will tell us,
and they won't help us.
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In 1990, a
congressional hearing
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on again the Gander disaster
was convened in Washington DC.
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While the committee did
criticize the government's
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lackluster post-crash
investigation,
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it stopped short of recommending
a full scale re-investigation.
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The families of the
dead men are left
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to wonder why and how
their sons, husbands,
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and brothers really died.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, a woman
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discovers that her long
lost father was a circus
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clown with a broken heart.
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During the Second World
War, more than 16 million
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American men and
women were called
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upon to serve the country.
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Inevitably, many families
would not survive the stress
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of wartime separation.
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28-year-old Lee Curly Lloyd was
one of those whose marriage was
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a casualty of the war effort.
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While Curly was in the service,
his son and two daughters
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lived in Oroville, California,
with a woman who ran
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a boarding house for children.
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[knocking on door]
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Huh, someone's at the door.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At the time,
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Peggie Lloyd was
three years old,
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her sister four, and their
little brother Arthur two.
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One day in 1944, Curly's wife
arrived at the boarding house.
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She was accompanied by
the man she would marry
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when her divorce was final.
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I've come here.
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I want to take my children.
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Just the girls,
though, not Arthur.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Peggie and her sister
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went to live with their
mother and the man who
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was to become their stepfather.
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It's all right.
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OK, let's go.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Peggie's brother
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Arthur was left behind.
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Peggie Lloyd grew up being told
that her father had deserted
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the family, and questions
about her brother
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were ignored or brushed aside.
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She began to wonder
if Arthur had
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ever even existed until a
quiet summer day in 1948.
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PEGGIE (VOICEOVER): I
climbed up into the attic
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and crawled along, kind
of looking at things.
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In the back was
a bunch of boxes.
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So I was playing in this
particular group of boxes,
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and I found this picture.
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When I looked at the picture, I
just I knew that it was Arthur.
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I couldn't say that
that was a memory.
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It was a feeling.
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It was like, he looked like me.
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He was the right age.
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It just felt--
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I knew that it was Arthur.
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Peggie, what are you doing?
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Where have you been?
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Look, it's Arthur.
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My brother.
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Then that proves it.
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He's my brother.
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She the picture from
me, and it went away.
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And I never saw
the picture again,
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and I still never got an answer.
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But of course in my
mind I just knew.
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And so I guess that I just
grew up believing that wherever
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my father was, Arthur was.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Peggie's life
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at home grew increasingly
difficult. At the age of nine,
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she was sent to the first
in a series of foster homes
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and boarding schools.
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She married in 1958,
at age 17, and raised
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four daughters of her own.
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Over the years, Peggie remained
in contact with her mother
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but never learned anything more
about her brother or father.
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He's been working on
it for a whole year.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Finally in 1983, Peggie
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presented her mother with a
picture-filled genealogical
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chart as a way of once again
bringing up the subject
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of Arthur and Curly.
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The first one
starts with 1879.
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Oh my.
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And look way up here.
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Oh, look at me.
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PEGGIE (VOICEOVER):
I was an adult now,
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and she didn't have to be
so afraid of what I did.
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And perhaps she would
give you that information
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and feel like enough time had
passed that she could do that.
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I'd forgotten that one.
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But you know, Mom, there
is still something missing.
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I still don't have
any information
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about my own father.
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Peggie, don't start
with me again, please.
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We just want to know
where he was born, Mom.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In the end,
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Peggie's mother
relented and reluctantly
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revealed Curly's birth place.
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Please, Mom?
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Lindsey, Oklahoma.
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Thanks.
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Thanks.
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PEGGIE (VOICEOVER):
The next day,
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I called there on the phone,
and I put an ad in their local
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weekly newspaper,
asking if anybody knew
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his whereabouts or Arthur's.
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And it was from there that
things began to happen.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The family
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secrets of nearly 40 years were
unlocked with stunning speed.
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Just nine days after
placing the ad,
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Peggie received a letter from
an aunt, Velma Lloyd, who
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was married to Curly's brother.
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Velma had included
her phone number,
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and Peggie immediately called
her newly discovered relative.
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Hello?
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May I speak with
Velma Lloyd, please?
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PEGGIE (VOICEOVER): While I was
talking to her on the phone,
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I was, like, flipping through
the rest of the letters.
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And there I saw this one
that had one of those return
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address stamps on it
that said Curly-n-Cue,
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Clown Alley, Spokane.
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When I first saw the
letter from my dad,
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it was like I felt
like my heart stopped.
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It was a mixture.
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00:18:55,968 --> 00:19:00,072
It was like I was really
excited and really emotional.
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00:19:00,173 --> 00:19:01,808
Then I started crying.
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Then I was really frightened.
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I didn't know anything
about my father.
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I thought, well, what if what
he says in the letter is I
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don't want anything
to do with you?
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But of course I just overcame
that, and I opened the letter,
377
00:19:16,189 --> 00:19:20,393
and the letter said "my
beloved daughter, how thrilled
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I am to hear from you."
379
00:19:22,929 --> 00:19:26,999
It was like-- it's
indescribable.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Peggie was surprised to learn
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that for many years, both
before and after the war,
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her father was a clown
with Ringling Brothers
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and other smaller circuses.
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In 1955, Curly had even
performed within five miles
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of Peggie's home in
Southern California,
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but they would not see
each other until Peggie's
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43rd birthday in 1984.
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This home video
was shot at Peggie
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and Curly's long awaited
reunion in Spokane, Washington.
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00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:59,466
It was the first birthday
Peggie had spent with her father
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since she was three years old.
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Suddenly, I had a
grandfather, and aunts,
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and uncles, and
cousins, and just
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this whole world of family.
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And they just all acted like
I'd been there my whole life,
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00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:17,917
like they'd always
been my family.
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00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:20,520
It's just a wonderful thing.
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00:20:20,620 --> 00:20:22,021
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The celebration was
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perfect in every way but one.
400
00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:28,361
Peggie's brother Arthur
was not with the family.
401
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:30,430
But finally, Peggie
was able to learn
402
00:20:30,530 --> 00:20:38,771
what had happened to Arthur
since she last saw him in 1944.
403
00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:41,508
For four years, Arthur had
traveled with the circus,
404
00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:44,076
watching his father
perform in towns and cities
405
00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:45,978
across America.
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00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:49,248
Curly had no idea where his
ex-wife and his two daughters
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00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:51,318
were living.
408
00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:52,218
Hey, Arthur.
409
00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:53,386
How you doing?
410
00:21:03,162 --> 00:21:04,497
Hey, prissy monkey.
411
00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:06,333
You were real good
in the show today.
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00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,700
Hi, prissy monkey.
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00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,101
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At first, Curly
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believed that circus life would
be rewarding for his young son.
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Curly himself had joined
the circus when he was nine,
416
00:21:15,475 --> 00:21:18,511
and saw nothing wrong
with their itinerant life.
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00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:21,047
His friends advised
him otherwise.
418
00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,483
Come here.
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00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,452
The circus people
told him that Arthur
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00:21:25,552 --> 00:21:27,520
needed to be in school.
421
00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:33,259
Arthur needed a home, stability,
real parents, and a family
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00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,194
that he could grow
up with in one place,
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00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:39,298
and that the circus life
wasn't a good home for him.
424
00:21:39,399 --> 00:21:43,202
Curly, have you thought
this out carefully?
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00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:44,571
Yes, I have.
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00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,305
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After much soul searching,
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00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,675
Curly reached a
painful decision.
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He sought out a Catholic
priest in Logan, Utah,
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00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:54,947
where the circus was
performing in the fall of 1948.
430
00:21:55,047 --> 00:21:58,818
All right, the Church
can find him a home.
431
00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:00,653
I appreciate it.
432
00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:03,222
Curly, Take care
of yourself, OK?
433
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:04,256
Thank you, Father.
434
00:22:04,357 --> 00:22:06,158
Say goodbye to your son.
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00:22:06,258 --> 00:22:07,059
Arthur.
436
00:22:11,063 --> 00:22:12,432
Hey, come here.
437
00:22:16,403 --> 00:22:19,305
Hey, I want you to take
care of yourself, OK?
438
00:22:19,406 --> 00:22:20,507
All right?
439
00:22:20,607 --> 00:22:23,109
And this man here, he's
going to take care of you.
440
00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:26,345
Be good and remember
everything Daddy told you, OK?
441
00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:27,279
All right.
442
00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:31,317
OK, you run along now.
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00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:41,528
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Arthur was six years old when
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00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:43,930
Curly gave him up for adoption.
445
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,833
15 years later, Curly
would receive two letters
446
00:22:46,933 --> 00:22:49,001
from his son, but
neither contained
447
00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:52,338
Arthur's adopted last name
or his return address.
448
00:22:52,439 --> 00:22:55,742
The letters had been mailed
from Colorado Springs, Colorado.
449
00:22:58,578 --> 00:23:00,346
I tried Colorado Springs.
450
00:23:00,447 --> 00:23:03,049
I didn't find anything there.
451
00:23:03,149 --> 00:23:05,418
I seemed to be at a loss.
452
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:08,821
And when my dad
became really ill,
453
00:23:08,921 --> 00:23:11,157
it was like I have
to find Arthur.
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00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:14,794
I have to find him
before he dies.
455
00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:16,028
Hi.
456
00:23:16,128 --> 00:23:17,063
Ah, look at you.
457
00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:19,866
You're just a mess, just a mess.
458
00:23:19,966 --> 00:23:22,769
How you doing, huh?
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00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:25,271
PEGGIE (VOICEOVER): Curly,
and I had seven really
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00:23:25,371 --> 00:23:27,039
wonderful years of friendship.
461
00:23:31,377 --> 00:23:32,845
We became really
good friends, and we
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00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:35,848
talked about Arthur a lot.
463
00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:37,817
He really felt
really sad about it.
464
00:23:37,917 --> 00:23:40,520
I mean, he felt really
guilty about it.
465
00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:41,420
I've only got one regret.
466
00:23:44,323 --> 00:23:48,360
We haven't found Arthur.
467
00:23:48,461 --> 00:23:50,196
I want you to find him.
468
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:52,732
I will find him.
469
00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:54,166
Tell I'm--
470
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,134
I'm sorry.
471
00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:00,406
It's OK.
472
00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:03,409
PEGGIE (VOICEOVER): It was
like he said to me, Peggie,
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00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,144
I don't know about Arthur.
474
00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:08,247
I'm so sorry about Arthur.
475
00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:12,218
But I know that you'll find him.
476
00:24:12,318 --> 00:24:14,120
Somehow I believe that
I know that we will.
477
00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:20,893
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lee Curly Lloyd
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died in 1991 at the age of 77.
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00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,766
He was comforted at
least in some measure
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00:24:26,866 --> 00:24:31,337
by Peggie's promise to
continue searching for Arthur.
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00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:33,606
This is one of only
two known photographs
482
00:24:33,706 --> 00:24:35,642
of Arthur Franklin Lloyd.
483
00:24:35,742 --> 00:24:38,044
When the picture was taken,
Arthur was two years old
484
00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:39,846
and had blonde hair.
485
00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:44,917
He has blue eyes and would
today be 50 years old.
486
00:24:45,017 --> 00:24:46,118
I have to find Arthur.
487
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:48,988
I have to find him to
say you have a family.
488
00:24:49,088 --> 00:24:53,092
You have someone, not just
myself, but all of Curly's
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00:24:53,192 --> 00:24:56,829
family, who love you, and want
you, and want to know you.
490
00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:01,768
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When we return,
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00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:05,137
a young woman accuses a
spiritual leader of rape.
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00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:07,439
Authorities need your
help to find him.
493
00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:18,818
[dialing]
494
00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,390
Answer the phone.
495
00:25:24,490 --> 00:25:25,291
TIM (ON PHONE): Hello?
496
00:25:25,391 --> 00:25:26,358
Tim?
497
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:27,827
This is Julie.
498
00:25:27,927 --> 00:25:29,095
What are you doing?
It's late.
499
00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:29,996
JULIE (ON PHONE): I know.
500
00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:30,897
Can you please come get me.
501
00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:34,366
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Shortly before midnight
502
00:25:34,466 --> 00:25:39,138
on September 17, 1982, a young
woman named Julie Cooper made
503
00:25:39,238 --> 00:25:43,242
an impassioned phone call,
a cry for help to Tim Santi,
504
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,244
a virtual stranger
whom she had met
505
00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:48,581
only once when he repaired
the satellite dish on the farm
506
00:25:48,681 --> 00:25:50,049
where she lived.
507
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:53,019
JULIE (ON PHONE): When
can you come pick me up?
508
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,687
TIM (VOICEOVER): Julie had
told me bits and pieces
509
00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:57,757
of what had gone
on, but I'm still
510
00:25:57,857 --> 00:25:59,592
not aware of the whole story.
511
00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:01,761
And I'm thinking, well,
you know it's no big deal.
512
00:26:01,861 --> 00:26:04,096
Nobody's going to catch us.
513
00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:08,267
We tentatively set the time
for 1:15 in the morning.
514
00:26:08,367 --> 00:26:10,302
I drove up to the corner.
515
00:26:10,402 --> 00:26:12,739
Before you get to the road
down to her house at 1:13,
516
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:17,176
I waited for two minutes
and drove down there.
517
00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:20,579
She was crouched
down in the grass
518
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,682
with a trash bag
full of clothes.
519
00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:28,254
Go, go, go!
520
00:26:28,354 --> 00:26:32,258
TIM (VOICEOVER): She was very,
very, nervous and very afraid.
521
00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:34,093
You are the wearers of white.
522
00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:35,862
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Julie Cooper told Tim Santi
523
00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:39,098
that for 16 years she had been
trapped in a religious cult
524
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:41,067
called the DeCloud Family.
525
00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:44,303
The family, nearly 30
men, women, and children,
526
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:49,308
lived together in a commune far
removed from the outside world.
527
00:26:49,408 --> 00:26:52,645
In some ways, the DeCloud family
resembled the Branch Davidian
528
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:57,416
sect, the religious cult led
by David Koresh in Waco, Texas.
529
00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:59,886
That group lived in a
fortified compound, where
530
00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:02,254
a two month stand off
with federal agents
531
00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:03,555
recently ended in tragedy.
532
00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:07,894
David Koresh's
group was just one
533
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,730
of an estimated 2,000 religious
cults which have sprung
534
00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:13,199
up throughout the country.
535
00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:15,935
Many are headed by
self-proclaimed messiahs, who
536
00:27:16,035 --> 00:27:17,937
rule with absolute authority.
537
00:27:18,037 --> 00:27:20,472
When Julie Cooper finally
escaped from the DeCloud
538
00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:22,709
Family, she began
to make accusations
539
00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:26,512
which paint a horrifying picture
of life within the commune.
540
00:27:26,612 --> 00:27:28,948
The most chilling allegations
focus on the leader
541
00:27:29,048 --> 00:27:30,817
of the cult, Nelson DeCloud.
542
00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:34,854
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nelson DeCloud
543
00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:37,623
is an ex-police officer
from Raytown, Missouri,
544
00:27:37,724 --> 00:27:40,126
a suburb of Kansas City.
545
00:27:40,226 --> 00:27:42,394
His family, as he
calls his followers,
546
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,765
had actually been founded by
his father, Forrest DeCloud,
547
00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:48,067
around 1968.
548
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:52,504
Before Forrest died in 1988,
Nelson ascended to the role
549
00:27:52,604 --> 00:27:54,606
of spiritual leader.
550
00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:57,276
Soon, he moved his
followers to an isolated
551
00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:59,345
farm in Liberty, Missouri.
552
00:27:59,445 --> 00:28:01,380
Nearly all family
members were encouraged
553
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,950
to change their last
names to DeCloud,
554
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:06,352
literally "of the clouds."
555
00:28:06,452 --> 00:28:08,788
Quiet, please.
556
00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:14,727
Praise the Lord, and welcome
him into the temple DeCloud.
557
00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:15,627
Praise the Lord.
558
00:28:15,728 --> 00:28:16,829
Praise the Lord.
559
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:18,865
Praise the Lord!
560
00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:20,266
Praise the Lord!
561
00:28:20,366 --> 00:28:23,903
Today's lesson is
from Revelations 13.
562
00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:26,205
Open your Bibles, please.
563
00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:31,010
Nelson thought that
he was God's son.
564
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:33,112
Not really that he
was Jesus Christ,
565
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:35,782
but that he was
one of God's sons,
566
00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:38,317
and that he couldn't
do any wrong.
567
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:40,586
And I said unto him, sir--
568
00:28:40,686 --> 00:28:42,288
JULIE (ON PHONE): Nelson
had a very booming voice.
569
00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:46,225
And his eyes were
like a white blue,
570
00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,761
which just would scare you.
571
00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:52,698
And made them white in
the blood of the lamb.
572
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:53,565
Amen.
573
00:28:53,665 --> 00:28:54,633
Praise the Lord.
574
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,003
Praise the Lord.
575
00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:58,370
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Julie Cooper
576
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:01,040
was just six when her family
joined the cult in the mid-70s.
577
00:29:04,276 --> 00:29:06,979
Julie claims she eventually
learned that DeCloud expected
578
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,583
perverse, almost repulsive forms
of devotion from his followers.
579
00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:12,651
Hallelujah.
580
00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:13,920
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When she was 10,
581
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,955
Julie says DeCloud
forced her to watch
582
00:29:16,055 --> 00:29:20,026
him have sex with a female
member of the family.
583
00:29:20,126 --> 00:29:22,228
Amen.
584
00:29:22,328 --> 00:29:23,863
I want you to stay out
here for a little while.
585
00:29:23,963 --> 00:29:26,165
JULIE (VOICEOVER): He asked
me to have sex with him, and I
586
00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:27,533
didn't want to, and I didn't.
587
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:30,502
What I want you to do, Julie,
is what God wants you to do.
588
00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:31,904
You understand me?
- Yes.
589
00:29:32,004 --> 00:29:33,072
All right.
590
00:29:33,172 --> 00:29:34,907
JULIE (VOICEOVER): I
guess he was so far into a
591
00:29:35,007 --> 00:29:37,276
he couldn't do any
wrong kind of deal
592
00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:40,146
that it didn't matter to him.
593
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:41,280
Now, you listen to me.
594
00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:44,516
Do you know how old Mary
was when she had Jesus?
595
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:45,818
14 years old.
596
00:29:45,918 --> 00:29:46,919
14 years old.
597
00:29:47,019 --> 00:29:47,887
Now, you think about that.
598
00:29:47,987 --> 00:29:50,122
There's nothing wrong with that.
599
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:52,758
JULIE (VOICEOVER): He put me
out in this, like, wooded area.
600
00:29:52,859 --> 00:29:53,893
I didn't haven't food.
601
00:29:53,993 --> 00:29:56,262
I didn't have any jacket
or anything like hat.
602
00:29:56,362 --> 00:29:58,697
When are you coming back?
603
00:29:58,797 --> 00:29:59,798
I'll know when to come back.
604
00:29:59,899 --> 00:30:01,767
God will tell me
when to come back.
605
00:30:04,536 --> 00:30:05,938
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Julie,
606
00:30:06,038 --> 00:30:09,842
she stood in the field alone
and shivering for eight hours
607
00:30:09,942 --> 00:30:14,013
before Nelson took her
back to the compound.
608
00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:15,848
Disobedience!
609
00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:22,588
There is a sinner amongst
us, and I am deeply troubled.
610
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:24,456
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Julie says that another member
611
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:27,759
of the family was public
dehumidify after she confronted
612
00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:28,961
DeCloud and his cruelty.
613
00:30:29,061 --> 00:30:31,797
She has chosen
to disobey my word.
614
00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:35,767
She has chosen to
disobey God's word.
615
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:38,470
JULIE (VOICEOVER): He was
going to make an example of her
616
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:39,638
in front of me, in
front of others.
617
00:30:42,641 --> 00:30:43,775
And that was enough to scare me.
618
00:30:43,876 --> 00:30:46,445
He knew that I was
already scared.
619
00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:48,547
No!
620
00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:54,586
I felt like it was
my fault, because here
621
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:58,590
she tried to stand up for
me, and I wasn't giving in.
622
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,263
And maybe if I had
given in earlier,
623
00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:05,431
he wouldn't have done that.
624
00:31:10,236 --> 00:31:15,207
He found me, and he says,
well, are you ready now?
625
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:17,276
Of course, you know, after
all that had happened,
626
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,078
I just said "yes."
627
00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:22,581
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Julie Cooper
628
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,483
claims she became
a virtual prisoner
629
00:31:24,583 --> 00:31:27,719
in the compound, forced to
serve as one of DeCloud's
630
00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:29,688
unwilling sex partners.
631
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:32,058
When she was 15,
Julie says she made
632
00:31:32,158 --> 00:31:35,027
her first attempt to escape.
633
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:36,362
After everything
that had happened
634
00:31:36,462 --> 00:31:39,966
to me, everything that was
going on, I decided to run away.
635
00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:43,269
I just couldn't take anymore.
636
00:31:43,369 --> 00:31:44,636
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Julie's absence
637
00:31:44,736 --> 00:31:45,972
did not go unnoticed.
638
00:31:46,072 --> 00:31:49,108
Nelson DeCloud immediately
organized search parties
639
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:50,576
to comb the area.
640
00:31:54,246 --> 00:31:55,114
Julie.
641
00:31:55,214 --> 00:31:56,782
Julie, you stop
right where you are!
642
00:31:56,882 --> 00:31:57,683
You hear me, girl?
643
00:31:57,783 --> 00:31:59,151
You stay right there.
644
00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:00,386
Stop right there.
645
00:32:00,486 --> 00:32:01,287
No!
646
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:04,690
Come here.
647
00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:05,992
No, let me go, please!
648
00:32:09,861 --> 00:32:10,829
Let me go!
649
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,198
JULIE (VOICEOVER):
Nelson and another guy
650
00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:17,936
came, picked me up, handcuffed
me, and took me back.
651
00:32:18,037 --> 00:32:21,440
I was so scared of him, of
what would happen to me.
652
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:22,341
Offer your shoes!
653
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,053
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
According to Julie,
654
00:32:34,153 --> 00:32:37,089
she was ordered to disrobe.
655
00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:38,790
And later, she was
severely beaten.
656
00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:43,329
Offer your shirt.
657
00:32:46,065 --> 00:32:51,937
Nelson switched me, and burned
my clothes, burned my shoes.
658
00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:55,641
And it was like
a symbolic thing.
659
00:32:55,741 --> 00:32:57,976
After that, he always
kept me with him.
660
00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:03,082
I always had his sleep with
him in his bus, in his area.
661
00:33:03,182 --> 00:33:05,651
He wouldn't let me out
of anybody's sight.
662
00:33:05,751 --> 00:33:06,785
I always had to be watched.
663
00:33:06,885 --> 00:33:11,757
So that's one thing that
really kept me on edge,
664
00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,660
and kept me from ever trying
to run away, because I was
665
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,197
afraid someone would see me.
666
00:33:18,297 --> 00:33:20,866
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Seven more years passed.
667
00:33:20,966 --> 00:33:22,968
Julie Cooper remained,
feeling stripped
668
00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:24,636
of her freedom and
dignity, waiting
669
00:33:24,736 --> 00:33:27,273
for one more chance to escape.
670
00:33:27,373 --> 00:33:32,144
Then, in the fall of 1992,
the opportunity arose.
671
00:33:32,244 --> 00:33:34,513
At Nelson's request,
Julie contacted
672
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,815
a satellite dish repairman.
673
00:33:36,915 --> 00:33:39,051
Numerous calls
followed until finally
674
00:33:39,151 --> 00:33:43,855
Tim Santi made his appearance
at the DeCloud commune.
675
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:45,357
TIM (VOICEOVER): As I
pull into the driveway,
676
00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:46,892
I see several cars.
677
00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:49,328
And I see a lot of
kids running around.
678
00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:50,596
And the first
impression that I get
679
00:33:50,696 --> 00:33:54,100
is that this has to
be some type of party.
680
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,734
Right, OK.
681
00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:57,969
Sister Julie, could I
interrupt you just a second?
682
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:59,037
This is Tim.
683
00:33:59,138 --> 00:34:02,141
He's the man from the
satellite company.
684
00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,575
TIM (VOICEOVER): When
I got into the office,
685
00:34:03,675 --> 00:34:05,777
I guess I sort of more
or less recognized Julie,
686
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,647
because I had built up a rapport
with her on the telephone
687
00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:10,416
in the weeks preceding
to me coming up there
688
00:34:10,516 --> 00:34:11,850
and doing the service call.
689
00:34:15,587 --> 00:34:19,825
Julie was very meek, in as
much as she wasn't as outgoing
690
00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:21,193
as she was on the phone.
691
00:34:21,293 --> 00:34:26,465
She seemed stifled or held back
because of some other reason
692
00:34:26,565 --> 00:34:29,835
than anything obvious.
693
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:31,237
Oh, Brother Nelson.
694
00:34:31,337 --> 00:34:34,206
This is our brother in
God, Nelson DeCloud.
695
00:34:34,306 --> 00:34:37,209
Nelson, I'd like
for you to meet Tim.
696
00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:40,646
When Tim was
introduced to Nelson,
697
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:42,248
he didn't show him any respect.
698
00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:44,516
He didn't think of him
as anybody or anything.
699
00:34:47,353 --> 00:34:48,587
And that made me feel good.
700
00:34:48,687 --> 00:34:51,022
It made me feel like I
could trust in someone.
701
00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:53,325
I could actually
talk to this person
702
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,261
and he could understand me.
703
00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:59,631
Over the next couple
of weeks afterward,
704
00:34:59,731 --> 00:35:01,433
I had asked her out for a date.
705
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,402
And she seemed like
she was willing,
706
00:35:03,502 --> 00:35:07,206
but that there was something
that was holding her back.
707
00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:10,142
Well, he had asked me out,
and of course I told him
708
00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:12,378
that I couldn't go, and
I couldn't go for a year,
709
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:13,679
wouldn't be able to
get out for a year.
710
00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:14,980
And that was just a
way of putting him
711
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,484
off and seeing if
he was willing to go
712
00:35:18,584 --> 00:35:20,786
on with trying to wear me down.
713
00:35:20,886 --> 00:35:23,021
In the course of our
conversations on the phone,
714
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:24,356
we had--
715
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:27,125
she had come up with a plan
that she would need to sneak
716
00:35:27,226 --> 00:35:30,562
out at night undetected.
717
00:35:30,662 --> 00:35:32,564
JULIE (VOICEOVER): I
called Tim up and I said,
718
00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:34,500
I want to go tonight.
719
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,935
We made a time at
1:15 in the morning,
720
00:35:37,035 --> 00:35:41,640
and sure enough, when
1:15 hit, he was there.
721
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,510
Go, go, go!
722
00:35:44,610 --> 00:35:50,182
After I left, I was afraid
they would take me back,
723
00:35:50,282 --> 00:35:55,621
they would beat me, do
something to my mom.
724
00:35:55,721 --> 00:35:58,357
I'm still afraid that
he is torturing my mom
725
00:35:58,457 --> 00:35:59,458
in some way for what I've done.
726
00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:04,896
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
At dawn, Nelson DeCloud
727
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:07,199
went looking for Julie.
728
00:36:07,299 --> 00:36:09,901
Allegedly masquerading
as police officers,
729
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:15,607
Nelson and another family member
drove to Tim Santi's address.
730
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:19,878
Hey, hey, where's Julie?
731
00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:20,779
What?
732
00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,048
Where is Julie?
733
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:24,383
Who's Julie?
734
00:36:24,483 --> 00:36:25,984
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Fortunately for Julie,
735
00:36:26,084 --> 00:36:28,787
the address belonged
to Tim's brother, Ted.
736
00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:32,224
Tim and Julie were just a
few yards away, sound asleep
737
00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:34,460
in the house next door.
738
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,627
Who are you guys?
739
00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:37,396
We're the-- we're the police.
740
00:36:37,496 --> 00:36:38,764
Looking for Tim.
741
00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:41,132
You got a warrant
or something?
742
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:42,401
You got a warrant, pal?
743
00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:44,102
Where is Tim?
Where is Tim?
744
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,103
You guys aren't cops.
745
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,939
Hey, get out of here!
746
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,207
You both get the
hell out of my house!
747
00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:50,476
The next day,
Ted came up to me
748
00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:52,578
and said, what the
hell's going on here?
749
00:36:52,678 --> 00:36:59,451
Two strange people had come
into his home looking for me,
750
00:36:59,551 --> 00:37:02,521
like I was a criminal
or something.
751
00:37:02,621 --> 00:37:03,855
They won't let me leave.
752
00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:06,458
And that's when Julie had
told us the whole thing
753
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:08,560
of what was going on.
754
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:10,862
Why did you want to run away?
755
00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:12,498
TIM (VOICEOVER): She had
also alluded to the fear
756
00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:15,767
that any man that was
physically able from that group
757
00:37:15,867 --> 00:37:17,369
would probably come
and try to get her.
758
00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,671
They beat me
and they raped me.
759
00:37:19,771 --> 00:37:22,808
And I can't stay there anymore.
760
00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:23,942
How long has
this been going on?
761
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,143
TIM (VOICEOVER):
That's when we decided
762
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:26,778
to put restraining orders
against anyone who was
763
00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:29,247
physically able to abduct her.
764
00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:31,517
Do you want to go back?
765
00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:34,052
I never want to go back.
766
00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:35,754
Ever.
767
00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:38,023
When you first get
out, you feel kind of,
768
00:37:38,123 --> 00:37:42,127
you don't know what you are
to do, how to stop things.
769
00:37:42,227 --> 00:37:45,997
And that was just the first step
for me, just to keep them away.
770
00:37:46,097 --> 00:37:48,434
Because I knew they
had brought people
771
00:37:48,534 --> 00:37:51,603
back before that had gone
away and beat them and stuff.
772
00:37:51,703 --> 00:37:54,873
And I was afraid something
like that would happen to me.
773
00:37:54,973 --> 00:38:00,278
Last Thursday, I called my
friend Tim to come pick me up.
774
00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:01,913
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Detective Duane Wiersma
775
00:38:02,013 --> 00:38:04,383
of the Clay County Sheriff's
Department had long
776
00:38:04,483 --> 00:38:05,684
been suspicious about the cult.
777
00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:06,585
Because I wanted to leave.
778
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:11,490
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
When he brought Julie Cooper
779
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,525
in for questioning,
she provided a
780
00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:17,829
detailed and harrowing account
of her entire childhood.
781
00:38:17,929 --> 00:38:21,400
I was abused.
782
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:24,135
I believed Julie
from the beginning.
783
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:26,372
What type of abuse?
784
00:38:26,472 --> 00:38:31,042
We had a hard time trying
just to focus on the charges
785
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:33,345
of the rape at the time, because
there were so many other things
786
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:35,180
that he could have
been charged with.
787
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,084
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Before an arrest warrant could
788
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:41,553
be issued, Nelson
DeCloud ordered the women
789
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,321
and children to load
their possessions
790
00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:45,991
on to four converted buses.
791
00:38:46,091 --> 00:38:48,527
Nelson then took them
away from the commune.
792
00:38:48,627 --> 00:38:51,129
The other man
departed a week later.
793
00:38:51,229 --> 00:38:55,767
The DeCloud Family has
not been seen since.
794
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:57,035
It's not an
everyday occurrence
795
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:58,437
where you come up
on a religious group
796
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:01,540
led by such a powerful
individual as Nelson DeCloud.
797
00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:05,677
We believe they're
still together,
798
00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:08,380
because Nelson feeds
off the power of being
799
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,581
in control of the group.
800
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:12,718
He doesn't have the group,
then he has no power.
801
00:39:12,818 --> 00:39:16,287
I want Nelson to get caught
because it's not fair to anyone
802
00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:17,155
else that's up there.
803
00:39:20,358 --> 00:39:25,831
My mom and dad, they need to
know that he isn't the messiah.
804
00:39:28,967 --> 00:39:30,168
He can't do things
on his own and think
805
00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:33,472
that he can't get away with it.
806
00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:36,742
He's not above that.
807
00:39:36,842 --> 00:39:39,511
He's a criminal.
808
00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:40,612
What he was doing was wrong.
809
00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:49,588
After our broadcast, several
viewers from San Angelo,
810
00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:53,258
Texas, a small town 500 miles
from DeCloud's old headquarters
811
00:39:53,358 --> 00:39:55,627
in Missouri, called
to say they had seen
812
00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:57,763
DeCloud's wife in the area.
813
00:39:57,863 --> 00:40:01,066
The cult had apparently
settled in this farmhouse.
814
00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:03,935
Once state and local agents
converged on the scene,
815
00:40:04,035 --> 00:40:06,705
DeCloud kicked out the
screen of the upstairs window
816
00:40:06,805 --> 00:40:08,840
in an attempt to escape.
817
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:11,877
The deputies approached
him and he tried to wrestle
818
00:40:11,977 --> 00:40:13,812
with a few of them briefly.
819
00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:15,547
There were so many law
enforcement officers, though,
820
00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:17,816
that that didn't last very long.
821
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,786
They put the handcuffs on
him and escorted him out
822
00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:22,187
of the building.
823
00:40:22,287 --> 00:40:23,522
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nelson DeCloud
824
00:40:23,622 --> 00:40:25,356
was booked at the
local county jail,
825
00:40:25,457 --> 00:40:27,659
and later extradited
to Liberty, Missouri
826
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:30,295
to stand trial on four
criminal counts, including
827
00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:32,831
forcible rape and sodomy.
828
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:35,701
Since the arrest
of Nelson DeCloud,
829
00:40:35,801 --> 00:40:37,536
other former
members of the group
830
00:40:37,636 --> 00:40:39,771
have come forward,
wanting to testify
831
00:40:39,871 --> 00:40:41,907
about the things
they witnessed when
832
00:40:42,007 --> 00:40:44,142
they were members of the group.
833
00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:45,544
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Nelson DeCloud
834
00:40:45,644 --> 00:40:50,315
is currently out on bail, thanks
to $25,000 raised by followers.
835
00:40:50,415 --> 00:40:54,119
A trial is scheduled
for November 16, 1993.
836
00:40:54,219 --> 00:40:57,288
If convicted on all charges,
Nelson DeCloud could spend
837
00:40:57,388 --> 00:41:00,291
the rest of his life in prison.
838
00:41:00,391 --> 00:41:01,827
I feel confident
now that I can
839
00:41:01,927 --> 00:41:05,230
have a normal life,
after seeing him caught
840
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:08,066
and knowing that it can be done.
841
00:41:11,537 --> 00:41:14,940
For Julie Cooper, her long
ordeal is almost, but not quite
842
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,241
over.
843
00:41:16,341 --> 00:41:19,745
She still has to testify at
DeCloud's upcoming trial.
844
00:41:19,845 --> 00:41:22,280
However, this courageous
young woman has already found
845
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:24,683
a happy ending to her story.
846
00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:27,919
Last summer, Julie became
engaged to Tim Santi,
847
00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:29,287
the man who helped her escape.
848
00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:44,636
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Next, a dramatic reunion.
849
00:41:44,736 --> 00:41:47,573
A woman finds her long lost
best friend, who helped her
850
00:41:47,673 --> 00:41:49,407
overcome the trauma of polio.
851
00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:01,987
Recently, we featured
the moving story
852
00:42:02,087 --> 00:42:06,024
of Judi Davis, who was stricken
with polio as a young girl.
853
00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:11,663
Judi was searching for her best
childhood friend, Becky Terry.
854
00:42:11,763 --> 00:42:15,166
The two girls had been
wrenched apart back in 1958,
855
00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:19,237
when Becky's family moved away.
856
00:42:19,337 --> 00:42:24,042
Judi and Becky had met on
their first day of junior high.
857
00:42:24,142 --> 00:42:27,646
To the other students, Judi,
with her braces and crutches,
858
00:42:27,746 --> 00:42:29,815
was an unnerving sight,
and she was often
859
00:42:29,915 --> 00:42:32,651
the object of curious stares.
860
00:42:32,751 --> 00:42:34,586
But one girl was different.
861
00:42:34,686 --> 00:42:36,688
One girl offered Judi
the precious gift
862
00:42:36,788 --> 00:42:40,558
of unconditional friendship.
863
00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:41,459
Hi, I'm Becky.
864
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,695
Can I help?
- Thanks.
865
00:42:43,795 --> 00:42:44,730
What homeroom are you in?
866
00:42:44,830 --> 00:42:46,564
The letter said 102.
867
00:42:46,665 --> 00:42:47,799
That's the same one I'm in.
868
00:42:47,899 --> 00:42:50,769
Becky's friendship
to me meant that I
869
00:42:50,869 --> 00:42:56,775
was able to be accepted by the
other students in the school.
870
00:42:56,875 --> 00:43:02,748
And it made me feel like I
was more like everyone else,
871
00:43:02,848 --> 00:43:06,217
and that there was no
difference between us.
872
00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:11,056
And at the age of
12, that meant a lot.
873
00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:14,359
And it still means a lot.
874
00:43:14,459 --> 00:43:16,327
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): During
our special live broadcast
875
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:18,664
last winter, Judi
waited anxiously
876
00:43:18,764 --> 00:43:21,132
at her home in Tucson,
Arizona, hoping
877
00:43:21,232 --> 00:43:22,868
that Becky would be found.
878
00:43:22,968 --> 00:43:25,904
To everyone's joy, they
were reunited by phone
879
00:43:26,004 --> 00:43:30,075
when the program was
still on the air.
880
00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:32,577
Oh, I'm so glad I found you!
881
00:43:35,213 --> 00:43:36,614
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three months later,
882
00:43:36,715 --> 00:43:39,651
Becky and her husband flew from
their home in West Virginia
883
00:43:39,751 --> 00:43:40,852
to meet Judi in Tucson.
884
00:43:45,924 --> 00:43:49,127
If he hadn't stopped,
I'd have jumped out anyway.
885
00:43:49,227 --> 00:43:53,031
I seen her sitting in that yard
and I couldn't wait to see her.
886
00:43:53,131 --> 00:43:53,965
You look so good.
887
00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:56,835
So do you.
888
00:43:56,935 --> 00:43:58,569
Oh gosh!
889
00:43:58,670 --> 00:44:02,874
Finding Becky and telling
her what she meant to me
890
00:44:02,974 --> 00:44:04,810
was really important.
891
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:08,013
And I didn't want life
to end without being
892
00:44:08,113 --> 00:44:10,281
able to tell her that.
893
00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:11,683
She hasn't changed that much.
894
00:44:11,783 --> 00:44:15,754
Maybe we're a little fatter, you
know, but we love each other.
895
00:44:15,854 --> 00:44:17,088
We'll stay good friends.
896
00:44:17,188 --> 00:44:18,356
Yeah.
897
00:44:18,456 --> 00:44:20,025
And that's the one thing I
always loved about Becky.
898
00:44:20,125 --> 00:44:23,628
She accepted me for the way I
was, and I still feel that way.
899
00:44:26,798 --> 00:44:27,999
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Happily,
900
00:44:28,099 --> 00:44:31,569
Judi and Becky's reunion had
an unexpected postscript.
901
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,204
As girls in junior
high school, they
902
00:44:33,304 --> 00:44:35,340
shared a very special friend.
903
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,642
His name was David Major.
904
00:44:37,743 --> 00:44:39,745
David had first been
Becky's boyfriend,
905
00:44:39,845 --> 00:44:41,679
then later on Judi's.
906
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:44,716
During our live broadcast,
David contacted our telecenter
907
00:44:44,816 --> 00:44:46,651
and left his phone number.
908
00:44:46,752 --> 00:44:48,820
On the day of their
reunion, Judi and Becky
909
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,791
just had to call him back.
910
00:44:52,891 --> 00:44:55,160
I'll bet you'll never
guess who this is.
911
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:56,561
DAVID (ON PHONE): Uh, no.
912
00:44:56,661 --> 00:44:57,528
Judi Davis.
913
00:44:57,628 --> 00:44:58,897
DAVID (ON PHONE): Judi?
Oh my gosh.
914
00:44:58,997 --> 00:44:59,798
[inaudible]?
915
00:44:59,898 --> 00:45:01,867
Yeah!
916
00:45:01,967 --> 00:45:03,334
DAVID (ON PHONE): How are you?
917
00:45:03,434 --> 00:45:04,535
I'm just fine.
918
00:45:04,635 --> 00:45:06,404
Becky and I are sitting
here, having our reunion.
919
00:45:06,504 --> 00:45:07,839
DAVID (ON PHONE): Is that right?
920
00:45:07,939 --> 00:45:08,774
Yeah.
921
00:45:08,874 --> 00:45:09,975
Oh, that's wonderful.
922
00:45:10,075 --> 00:45:11,576
Yeah, it's great
to hear your voice.
923
00:45:11,676 --> 00:45:12,477
DAVID (ON PHONE): Oh, geez.
924
00:45:12,577 --> 00:45:14,712
You wouldn't believe me now.
925
00:45:14,813 --> 00:45:15,613
Oh really?
926
00:45:15,713 --> 00:45:16,848
DAVID (ON PHONE): Oh really.
927
00:45:16,948 --> 00:45:17,883
You've changed a little?
928
00:45:17,983 --> 00:45:18,784
DAVID (ON PHONE): Oh yeah.
929
00:45:18,884 --> 00:45:20,418
I'm not skinny anymore.
930
00:45:20,518 --> 00:45:21,920
Oh, you're not?
DAVID (ON PHONE): No.
931
00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:22,988
Well, that's all right, honey.
932
00:45:23,088 --> 00:45:25,090
Neither am I!
933
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:26,391
DAVID (ON PHONE): I
can't believe this.
934
00:45:26,491 --> 00:45:28,293
It's the two girls who
taught me how to kiss!
935
00:45:28,393 --> 00:45:29,761
I'll be darned.
936
00:45:29,861 --> 00:45:30,762
Yeah.
937
00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:32,063
DAVID (ON PHONE):
Oh, that's great.
938
00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:33,398
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Now the circle
939
00:45:33,498 --> 00:45:34,632
was at last complete.
940
00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:37,869
So the two girls who taught
David Major how to kiss
941
00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:40,371
took their husbands out
to celebrate the renewal
942
00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:42,207
of a very special friendship.
943
00:45:42,307 --> 00:45:44,943
I'd like to propose
a toast to old friends.
944
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,880
- And new ones.
- And new ones.
945
00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:49,781
Yeah, and new ones.
946
00:46:03,929 --> 00:46:05,230
Thank you for
joining us, and please
947
00:46:05,330 --> 00:46:08,867
join us next time for another
edition of Unsolved Mysteries.
948
00:46:11,669 --> 00:46:14,305
[theme music]
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