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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
It sounds unbelievable,
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but many people say
that this man has
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uncanny psychic abilities,
which enable him to communicate
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with those who have
passed away and comfort
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those who mourn them.
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His name is George
Anderson, and tonight, we
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will examine his
claims and witness
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an actual psychic session,
which has surprising results.
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In September of 1988,
David and Cynthia Dowaliby
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were shocked by
the brutal murder
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of their 7-year-old
daughter Jaclyn.
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Two months later,
their nightmare
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became a descent into
hell when authorities
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charged them with a crime.
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Also tonight, a
heartwarming update.
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Thanks to our viewers,
a woman has finally
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found her long lost brother.
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Join us on another edition
of Unsolved Mysteries.
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[theme music]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
During the past five years,
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Unsolved Mysteries has
broadcast several stories
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about people who seem to have
uncanny psychic abilities.
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One of them was Dorothy
Allison, a New Jersey housewife
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who had envisioned several
clues which helped police locate
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the body of a young
boy, drowned when he
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fell into a rain swollen creek.
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Later, we hear the haunting tale
of Teresita Basa, a murdered
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woman who purportedly
spoke through a friend
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to name her own killer.
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When police arrested
the man, he confessed.
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And finally, there was the story
of Coral Polge, a British woman
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who draws eerie portraits.
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Her clients say that Coral's
drawings uncannily resemble
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their deceased loved
ones, people whom
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Coral could never have met.
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What these stories
have in common
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is that no one, not even
the most hardened skeptic,
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has come up with a rational
explanation of what appear
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to be genuine psychic episodes.
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That is also true of the
man you're about to meet,
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George Anderson of
Long Island, New York.
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He seems to have
an uncanny ability
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to communicate with the spirits
of those who have passed on.
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At times, it does seem even
for me that I am literally
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listening to them, or
listening to a conversation,
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or feeling I'm listening.
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I don't want people
to get the impression
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it's all, like,
I'm hearing clearly
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as I'm hearing you right now.
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It's a feeling
that you're seeing,
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a feeling that you're hearing.
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A sensation more.
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It's like getting an electrical
charge all through yourself.
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I was hosting a
popular late night
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radio talk show
on a rock station
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on Long Island,
where I had been--
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Joel Martin first heard
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of George Anderson in 1980.
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On the radio station
and the format,
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we dealt heavily with
unexplained phenomena.
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Just answer me with yes or no.
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Don't add any more
information than that.
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We'll let the
spirits do the work.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Martin
called George in for a reading.
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According to both men,
they had never met before,
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and George says he knew nothing
about Martin's background.
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When George conducts
readings, he
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sometimes makes
random marks on a pad
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to enhance his concentration.
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George himself does not
appear in our recreations
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of his readings, which
are based on eyewitness
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accounts and transcripts.
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And he started to talk about
Shirley, my late wife who had
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been killed the year before.
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In 1979, she was hit
and killed by a car
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crossing a street in New York.
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Do you take the
name of Shirley?
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Shirley, does that name
mean something to you?
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Yes.
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She says you know her.
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She recently passed on suddenly.
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She points to her face
and to her head, pain.
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Maybe something happened?
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I'm feeling-- the pain is
coming through me, a feeling
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pain in the head and the face.
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Maybe a car accident?
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How do you know that?
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Well, she's standing
right behind you.
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No, no.
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You can't see her.
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Only I can see her.
She's a spirit.
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She's-- she's right there.
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Then he did something that
made me realize something
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legitimate was going on that
could not be explained by any--
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any way that I could reason.
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She's pointing her finger.
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She's waving it back
and forth very quickly,
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very quickly, like that.
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Stop it, stop it.
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Whenever she was annoyed
at me, she would say,
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you're like a little boy.
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You're just like a little-- but
that was only a private thing
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that she and I knew.
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Nobody would have known that.
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So now I'm figuring
how the heck?
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I could not have
told that to anybody.
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There's no way he
could have known this
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or should have known it.
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That's a very private thing.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Joel Martin
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persuaded George
Anderson to undergo tests
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with the acting
chief of neurology
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at a New York City hospital.
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According to Martin, George's
EEG was extremely unusual.
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While George conducted a session
with an off screen subject,
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half of his brain
registered sleep while half
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showed normal waking patterns.
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The neurologist
who conducted those
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tests, he said he had never
seen anything like it before.
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And is it what we expect to see?
No.
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Is it what's supposed to happen?
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No.
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Is something unusual going on?
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Yes.
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Joel Martin had always
considered himself a skeptic
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in matters of the paranormal.
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After meeting George Anderson,
he became a believer.
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Martin began to give George
a significant block of time
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on his radio call-in
show, and George Anderson
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became something of a
celebrity in his hometown.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
George was born in Lindenhurst,
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Long Island, New York in 1952.
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When he was six, George was
stricken with a severe case
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of chicken pox.
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He almost died.
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And immediately
afterwards, he says
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he began to hear voices
and see visions of people
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who had recently passed away.
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Eventually, George's parents,
strict Roman Catholics,
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resigned themselves to their
son's apparent abilities.
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George began to earn his living
by conducting psychic readings.
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To date, he has
held such readings
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for thousands of people.
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Barbara and John Licata
contacted George Anderson
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in 1982, four months after the
death of their 16-year-old son,
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David.
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David had gone out to a party.
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If I'm quiet, I can still
hear his footsteps going out
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and the door slamming shut.
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He had to be in by 12:30.
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I went to bed, but I laid
there awake, because I don't
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sleep until my kids are in.
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And at 1:30, I got up because
it was unlike David not to call.
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[knocking on door]
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I'll get it.
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David?
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- Mr. Licata?
- Yes.
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Mrs. Licata?
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Mhm.
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I need to talk to
you about your son.
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And then I knew.
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It was a night of hell.
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You know, if anybody wants
to know what hell is like,
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that's what it's like.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
David Licata had been
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killed by a hit and run driver.
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John was troubled by Barbara's
deep depression over David's
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death and by their
oldest son's overriding
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bitterness toward the driver
who had killed his brother.
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At Barbara's request, John
reluctantly agreed to a session
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with George Anderson.
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George Anderson claims
that with the Licatas,
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as with all his clients,
he had no prior information
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about them.
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He only knew that the
family was in mourning.
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You recently lost a son?
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Yes.
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In some sort of
accident, passed suddenly.
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I'm seeing-- I keep seeing
a vehicle of some kind.
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Yes.
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He's saying he was at the
wrong place at the wrong time.
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16, was he about 16?
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Yeah, he was 16.
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He's telling me--
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it's very confusing
because he's very restless.
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Was he very emotional?
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Yes.
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Very emotional, because
he's talking a mile a minute.
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I can recall their son David
coming through very strongly.
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Very high spirited
personality, no pun intended.
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And also very anxious to
reach out to his parents
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and give them and his
family the assurance
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that he was all right.
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There were a lot of
things, very specific pieces
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of information that came
forth in this reading
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that there was no way that
George could have known,
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because he didn't even know
who I was, much less link
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me to this information.
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A lot of hostility.
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He's saying hostility
about this, his brother.
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Yes.
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Very hostile, still
holding bad feelings?
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Yes.
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He saying forgive.
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Gotta forgive.
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If he can forgive, everybody
else should be able to forgive,
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because he's the one over there.
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I felt this enormous
relief when we made contact
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with David through George.
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It was a total relief, because
I felt like you arrived,
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you're in the other
world, you're still alive,
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and I will see you again.
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And there's a reason
for all of this.
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I don't know what the reason
is, but I will see you again.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Six years almost to the day
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after David Licata died, another
boy, David Elliot of Rochester,
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New York, was killed in
a snow skiing accident
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at the age of 17.
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Several weeks later, the
deaths of the two boys
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would become oddly
intertwined when
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John Elliott bought a
book about George Anderson
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called "We Don't Die."
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The book dealt with the
case of David Licata.
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While John Elliot
was reading it,
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he dreamed he had a session
with George Anderson.
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In the dream, George said
he saw John's son David
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standing with David Licata.
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Do you take the name "David?"
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Because I'm seeing David
Licata with a soccer ball,
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and he's telling me that your
son's name is also David."
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The dream seemed so real that
I decided I ought to pursue
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a reading with George.
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My background is in
science and engineering.
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Circumstantial evidence doesn't
prove anything to myself.
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I need the hard facts.
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And so I wanted a number
of things out of any vision
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or any trip to
George to convince
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myself that he was doing
something like what's
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claimed in his book.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): A month
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and a half after John
Elliot had his dream, he
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and two of his other sons,
Mark and Jack, attended
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a reading with George Anderson.
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John Elliot sat at
the back of the room
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and his sons sat at the front.
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John claimed that George
Anderson had no idea who they
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were or that they were related.
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And I decided I would
sit back and be the skeptic
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and give him no information.
255
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You prove it to me.
256
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The man in the back had
his son pass recently.
257
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Uh, yes.
258
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He's saying--
259
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I'm sorry.
260
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I've lost the signal.
261
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I wanted to see that
there was a signal involved.
262
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I wanted to know that he
wasn't reading my mind.
263
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And he goes, "I
have to stop now.
264
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I lose the signal."
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Quote, signal.
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"When lightning storms arrive."
267
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And I sat there, like, with my
pen checking off number one,
268
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there's a signal involved.
269
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It's not real clear
but something about 17?
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17?
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Does that mean anything?
272
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Yeah.
273
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GEORGE: His age?
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Yes.
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GEORGE: He was 17
when he passed?
276
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Passed suddenly?
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Yeah.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
George Anderson's attention
279
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then shifted to one
of John Elliot's sons.
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Do you have--
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do you take the name Madel--
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Madeline?
- Yes.
283
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Uh-huh.
284
00:13:55,102 --> 00:13:58,005
A mother vibration,
maybe grandmother?
285
00:13:58,105 --> 00:13:58,906
Uh-huh.
286
00:13:59,006 --> 00:14:00,173
Yeah.
287
00:14:00,273 --> 00:14:03,076
Grandfather Donald,
married to Donald?
288
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Yes.
289
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They're around you now.
290
00:14:08,748 --> 00:14:12,085
Now your grandparents are moving
over behind this young man
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here.
292
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They're saying-- protecting--
are you two brothers?
293
00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:17,257
Uh-huh.
294
00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:18,158
Yeah.
295
00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:20,127
Yes, they're saying yes.
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Sport.
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I'm getting a lot
of sports here.
298
00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:23,796
Do you play--
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I'm seeing some sort of
basket, a hoop, and a ball.
300
00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:28,368
Maybe basketball?
301
00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:30,503
And then Mark
spoke up at soccer.
302
00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:32,172
I play soccer.
303
00:14:32,272 --> 00:14:35,642
And George says, "oh,
this is really strange."
304
00:14:35,742 --> 00:14:37,444
And I'm listening to all
this and saying, "now, what
305
00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:40,347
could be strange to a psychic?"
306
00:14:40,447 --> 00:14:42,749
Now, what was really strange
in my mind is if he's
307
00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:45,618
got this vision of the Licata
boy with a soccer ball,
308
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:47,955
now that would even be
strange to a psychic.
309
00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:49,356
Oh.
310
00:14:49,456 --> 00:14:50,823
OK, now I understand, because
I'm seeing-- all of a sudden,
311
00:14:50,924 --> 00:14:54,894
I'm seeing David Licata is there
dressed in his soccer uniform.
312
00:14:54,995 --> 00:14:57,998
I'm seeing David Licata.
313
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He's wearing his soccer outfit.
314
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Here's a clue.
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The name David and soccer.
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Do you take the name of David?
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00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:08,741
Yes.
318
00:15:08,841 --> 00:15:11,278
Yes.
319
00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:12,946
You're-- you're David?
320
00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:15,848
You're father of these two boys.
321
00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:17,550
Yes, I am.
322
00:15:17,650 --> 00:15:19,452
And you-- you've lost--
323
00:15:19,552 --> 00:15:20,553
now-- now, he's coming through.
324
00:15:20,653 --> 00:15:22,689
OK, you've lost a
son named David.
325
00:15:22,789 --> 00:15:24,424
You've lost a
brother named David.
326
00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:25,525
Finally, he's coming through.
327
00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:26,593
Boy, that was freaky.
328
00:15:26,693 --> 00:15:29,862
I didn't know why
David Licata is there.
329
00:15:29,963 --> 00:15:30,897
He's saying, yes.
330
00:15:30,998 --> 00:15:32,832
Now-- now, your son
is coming through.
331
00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:34,634
They're talking and
almost laughing about it.
332
00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:35,768
He used him as a--
333
00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:39,539
very clever, but very freaky.
334
00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:43,243
I'm sitting there having
George relive my dream
335
00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:48,815
and my parents identified,
and I would call myself numb.
336
00:15:48,915 --> 00:15:50,750
I sat there and was amazed.
337
00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:53,186
Why, just about
everything I'd asked for
338
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:56,689
happened, and I came
away without being
339
00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:57,590
able to doubt him.
340
00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:04,564
I definitely have changed
my attitude towards a life
341
00:16:04,664 --> 00:16:06,499
after this.
342
00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:09,569
Over the years, I've learned
to accept and believe
343
00:16:09,669 --> 00:16:12,405
that David, as well as all
the rest of my relatives,
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00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:13,406
are with us all the time.
345
00:16:16,409 --> 00:16:17,710
I constantly question it.
346
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,080
I constantly say to myself,
gee, if this is real,
347
00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:21,448
why doesn't it work like this?
348
00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:22,515
It should work like this.
349
00:16:22,615 --> 00:16:24,117
I should be able to do this.
350
00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:26,953
But I can't doubt it just
because it doesn't work
351
00:16:27,054 --> 00:16:28,588
the way I feel it
should work or the way
352
00:16:28,688 --> 00:16:29,756
you feel it should work.
353
00:16:29,856 --> 00:16:31,491
It's working the way
it's supposed to work,
354
00:16:31,591 --> 00:16:34,361
and I guess it's easier
just to accept it as it is.
355
00:16:34,461 --> 00:16:37,097
To satisfy our own curiosity
about George Anderson's
356
00:16:37,197 --> 00:16:40,033
apparent ability to
communicate with the dead,
357
00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:42,169
Unsolved Mysteries
asked a bereaved family
358
00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:44,037
from Queens, the
Kenneth Silvermans,
359
00:16:44,137 --> 00:16:45,905
to meet with George.
360
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,208
As far as we were
able to ascertain,
361
00:16:48,308 --> 00:16:51,078
George Anderson and the
Silvermans had never met,
362
00:16:51,178 --> 00:16:52,912
nor did he know
anything about them
363
00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:55,115
or their son, who had
recently passed away.
364
00:16:57,917 --> 00:16:59,619
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
33-year-old Barry Silverman
365
00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:03,256
died last February, a victim
of a virulent form of cancer,
366
00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:06,393
which spread to his lungs.
367
00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:09,562
Barry's parents and his sister
Joy agreed to his session
368
00:17:09,662 --> 00:17:11,631
with George.
369
00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:14,101
What you are seeing
is an actual reading
370
00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:17,504
conducted by George Anderson,
shot with multiple cameras.
371
00:17:17,604 --> 00:17:19,772
It has something
to do with health.
372
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:22,175
Well, there's definitely two
male presences around you,
373
00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:23,610
and I'm sure there's
two males close to you
374
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:25,044
passed on someplace,
so don't say anything.
375
00:17:25,145 --> 00:17:25,945
Let me just go with it.
376
00:17:29,249 --> 00:17:31,151
Someone also claims your dad.
377
00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:32,285
Your dad passed also?
378
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:35,855
Yes, because somebody
is behind you.
379
00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:37,724
Does your father have
a good sense of humor?
380
00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:38,625
Yes.
381
00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,160
Because he joked.
382
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:43,963
He said he doesn't want
you to feel left out.
383
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:47,634
He claims your boy is with him.
384
00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:50,203
So you obviously must have
lost a son, because he keeps
385
00:17:50,303 --> 00:17:51,704
saying your boy is with me.
386
00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:53,906
And I'm sure he passed
on as a young adult,
387
00:17:54,006 --> 00:17:54,874
but he's still your son.
388
00:17:54,974 --> 00:17:55,775
He's still your boy.
389
00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,548
I hear the name "Barry."
390
00:18:01,648 --> 00:18:03,616
Does the name "Barry"
mean anything to you?
391
00:18:03,716 --> 00:18:04,751
Yes, that's our son.
392
00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:07,520
Barry says the message
that I just gave you,
393
00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:09,889
this is how you'll know it's for
real, that it comes from Barry.
394
00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,163
Why do I feel as
if I lose my air?
395
00:18:16,263 --> 00:18:17,564
Does that make sense?
396
00:18:17,664 --> 00:18:19,799
The injury I feel is in here.
397
00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:21,601
And he says you lose--
398
00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,403
I'm losing my air.
399
00:18:23,503 --> 00:18:25,037
So there's, like,
pressure in my chest
400
00:18:25,138 --> 00:18:27,607
as if I'm injured in the chest,
but I'm obviously feeling
401
00:18:27,707 --> 00:18:28,908
whatever the circumstances are.
402
00:18:32,712 --> 00:18:34,080
Were you concerned
you let him down?
403
00:18:34,181 --> 00:18:35,215
Yes.
404
00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:36,416
Because he keeps saying
"you didn't let me down,
405
00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,218
you didn't let me down,
you didn't let me down."
406
00:18:38,318 --> 00:18:41,488
But he directs it at
you more specifically.
407
00:18:41,588 --> 00:18:42,855
Because he pointed at you.
408
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:44,357
He keeps saying, "you
didn't let me down."
409
00:18:48,361 --> 00:18:50,197
I did let him down.
410
00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:53,366
I'm glad he said that.
411
00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:54,667
Very sensitive, warm guy.
412
00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:56,269
He sends his love
to the three of you.
413
00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,174
And he says to you specifically,
now when you leave--
414
00:19:01,274 --> 00:19:02,842
it's like he's giving orders.
415
00:19:02,942 --> 00:19:05,044
He says when you leave here,
you leave here with peace.
416
00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,679
He says you didn't
fail me, and he says,
417
00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:08,681
now you stop feeling guilty.
418
00:19:08,781 --> 00:19:11,418
And he says, you let that go
and put your heart at rest.
419
00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:13,253
He says, because he's all right.
420
00:19:13,353 --> 00:19:14,554
He's at peace.
421
00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:16,689
Until we meet again,
go on with your lives.
422
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:18,791
Try to be as happy
as you can be.
423
00:19:18,891 --> 00:19:21,394
Until we meet again, know
that you'll be with me again.
424
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,230
One thing about
him, he's honest.
425
00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:25,998
You hear from him, you'll
know it's for real.
426
00:19:26,098 --> 00:19:29,001
And with that, he
withdraws with the others.
427
00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:33,039
Pray for us until we meet
again, and there they go.
428
00:19:33,139 --> 00:19:34,241
OK, you can relax.
429
00:19:34,341 --> 00:19:37,377
Away they went.
430
00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:38,378
I feel a lot better.
431
00:19:38,478 --> 00:19:39,346
I really do.
432
00:19:39,446 --> 00:19:41,113
I feel that Barry's
really with us,
433
00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:48,688
and we'll be together
someday, and that doubt is--
434
00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:49,822
human beings are funny.
435
00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:51,358
I guess you never get
rid of it completely,
436
00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:55,262
but I feel much more convinced.
437
00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:59,299
I am just so relieved to
hear that he's not suffering
438
00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:00,833
and that he's happy.
439
00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:04,003
And I do believe he spoke
with George Anderson.
440
00:20:04,103 --> 00:20:06,939
And there are so
many things that he
441
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,811
has told us that were so true
that I feel so much better.
442
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:15,248
I feel very relieved.
443
00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:16,383
I'm still skeptical.
444
00:20:16,483 --> 00:20:20,052
I still have my days
where I'll walk upstairs
445
00:20:20,152 --> 00:20:22,455
and I'll call my best
friend in New York City
446
00:20:22,555 --> 00:20:24,657
and I'll say to him, ah, this
stuff's all a bunch of bull.
447
00:20:24,757 --> 00:20:26,526
I don't know why
I keep doing this.
448
00:20:26,626 --> 00:20:29,296
But then that's few
and far between.
449
00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:31,197
Then there are all
the times where
450
00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:34,667
you know something is happening
that you cannot explain.
451
00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:36,336
Plus, when you see
the effect it has on
452
00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:40,172
the people in a positive
way, where it helps them.
453
00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:43,810
I guess it's my job to mind my
own business and stay out of it
454
00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:45,545
and just continue
to be the instrument
455
00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:49,015
and let the person receive
what comfort comes from it.
456
00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:52,985
And that's what I try to do.
457
00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,322
As much as we might want to
believe in George Anderson's
458
00:20:55,422 --> 00:20:59,726
abilities, our rational, logical
minds tend to discount them.
459
00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:02,529
Still, after seeing
George Anderson in action,
460
00:21:02,629 --> 00:21:05,398
one might speculate, to
paraphrase Shakespeare,
461
00:21:05,498 --> 00:21:07,767
that there are more
things in heaven and earth
462
00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:09,702
than are dreamt of
in our philosophies.
463
00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:15,241
Next, the tragic
story of a couple
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00:21:15,342 --> 00:21:18,277
charged with the murder
of their own daughter.
465
00:21:18,378 --> 00:21:21,614
Plus, an update in which our
viewers help close a case.
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00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:38,931
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
1947, a small California
467
00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:41,200
town near the Oregon border.
468
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,336
A woman walking home
from the grocery store
469
00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:45,405
found an abandoned
two-year-old girl
470
00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:47,740
who had been severely beaten.
471
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,676
Are you all right?
472
00:21:49,776 --> 00:21:51,611
Oh my God, come
with me, sweetie.
473
00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:54,313
We'll get some help for you.
474
00:21:54,414 --> 00:21:56,082
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Through newspaper articles,
475
00:21:56,182 --> 00:21:57,950
the little girl was
identified as Mary
476
00:21:58,050 --> 00:21:59,786
Jane Medlin of Selma, Oregon.
477
00:22:02,922 --> 00:22:05,458
Police arrested Mary's
mother and her boyfriend
478
00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:07,794
on charges of child
abandonment and assault
479
00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:09,796
with attempt to commit murder.
480
00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:12,031
Both were sentenced
to 20 years in prison.
481
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,905
Mary, her older sister Leoma
and her baby brother Jimmy
482
00:22:19,005 --> 00:22:21,007
eventually became
wards of the state,
483
00:22:21,107 --> 00:22:22,509
and were placed with
different families.
484
00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:30,149
In 1991, Mary finally
found her sister Leoma.
485
00:22:30,249 --> 00:22:32,919
They immediately joined forces
to find their younger brother
486
00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:35,087
Jimmy, whom Mary
had only seen once
487
00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,290
when he was just an infant.
488
00:22:38,391 --> 00:22:41,628
I feel that the missing
link is Jimmy to make
489
00:22:41,728 --> 00:22:43,730
our family complete.
490
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:48,501
And I would like to know where
he is, what happened to him,
491
00:22:48,601 --> 00:22:51,504
what kind of a life
he has, and like him
492
00:22:51,604 --> 00:22:55,975
to know that we're here
and that we're his sisters.
493
00:22:59,245 --> 00:23:00,880
The night of our
broadcast, Jimmy
494
00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:03,082
was not watching
Unsolved Mysteries,
495
00:23:03,182 --> 00:23:05,518
but his adopted sister was.
496
00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:07,086
She immediately
called her mother,
497
00:23:07,186 --> 00:23:09,088
who then contacted Jimmy.
498
00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:11,724
His name is now
Donald Barrow, and he
499
00:23:11,824 --> 00:23:14,193
was just as anxious
to meet his sisters
500
00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:15,462
as they were to meet him.
501
00:23:18,465 --> 00:23:19,532
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Two weeks
502
00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:21,801
after our broadcast,
Donald and his family
503
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:24,737
drove from their home in Fresno,
California to Mary's home
504
00:23:24,837 --> 00:23:26,238
in Placerville.
505
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:31,711
Donald, Mary, and Leoma had not
seen each other in 45 years.
506
00:23:31,811 --> 00:23:32,645
You must be Donald!
507
00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:35,014
I am.
508
00:23:35,114 --> 00:23:36,949
We didn't think you
were gonna make it.
509
00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:42,321
The one thing that
I was concerned about
510
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,256
is, was it going to be OK?
511
00:23:44,356 --> 00:23:45,758
God, you look so good.
512
00:23:45,858 --> 00:23:47,960
There is a resemblance.
513
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:52,699
And I knew when I met him out
at the old car that it is OK.
514
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,133
And I am so happy.
515
00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:03,976
There's one for you.
516
00:24:04,076 --> 00:24:05,277
We didn't think
good, because we just
517
00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:07,480
thought of that this morning.
518
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:10,416
I just think that seeing
him and knowing that he's
519
00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:12,384
had a good life, that
was something that Mary
520
00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:15,822
and I both were concerned with,
that we wanted to make sure
521
00:24:15,922 --> 00:24:17,256
that he had had a good life.
522
00:24:17,356 --> 00:24:20,960
And knowing that he did
makes us very happy.
523
00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:23,863
I'm not very good at emotions,
so I don't know how to explain
524
00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:25,397
all of them hat were
going through my mind,
525
00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:27,466
but there were a lot of them.
526
00:24:30,670 --> 00:24:34,807
And there still are.
527
00:24:34,907 --> 00:24:36,776
I didn't think this
was ever gonna happen.
528
00:24:40,847 --> 00:24:44,984
Now I'm gonna find out what
it's like to be a baby brother.
529
00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:47,186
And I still get to
be the oldest sister.
530
00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:49,155
And we all know
I'm the middle child!
531
00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:05,638
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
September 10, 1980
532
00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:07,574
began as an ordinary
Saturday morning
533
00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:10,543
in Midlothian, Illinois.
534
00:25:10,643 --> 00:25:13,713
David Dowaliby and his
son David were up early.
535
00:25:13,813 --> 00:25:16,082
They were careful not to
wake the rest of the family,
536
00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:20,853
including David's mother, who
lived in a basement apartment.
537
00:25:20,953 --> 00:25:24,757
At around 7:15, David Dowaliby
noticed that the front door
538
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:27,393
was partially open.
539
00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:30,229
My first reaction was that
my mother must have come home
540
00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:32,198
and left it open.
541
00:25:32,298 --> 00:25:34,000
I went into the kitchen and
I looked in the driveway
542
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,368
for her car, and her
car wasn't there.
543
00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:38,537
And again, the
first reaction was
544
00:25:38,638 --> 00:25:40,506
that she must have came
home in the middle of night,
545
00:25:40,607 --> 00:25:41,808
went back out and left it open.
546
00:25:44,276 --> 00:25:45,511
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Two hours
547
00:25:45,612 --> 00:25:48,547
later, David's wife, Cynthia,
got up and went in to wake
548
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:51,784
their seven-year-old
daughter Jaclyn.
549
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,219
Hey, Dave, have
you seen Jaclyn?
550
00:25:57,824 --> 00:26:00,259
Dave, have you seen Jaclyn?
- No, isn't she in her room?
551
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,228
No is she with your mom?
552
00:26:02,328 --> 00:26:04,864
No, I don't think Mom
came home last night.
553
00:26:04,964 --> 00:26:06,432
Well, we should
probably find her.
554
00:26:06,532 --> 00:26:08,267
David and Cynthia
initially assumed
555
00:26:08,367 --> 00:26:12,371
that Jaclyn was out playing with
friends in the neighborhood.
556
00:26:12,471 --> 00:26:15,642
Jaclyn was Cynthia's daughter
from a previous marriage.
557
00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:19,111
After Cynthia and David married,
he felt so close to Jaclyn
558
00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:20,412
that he legally adopted her.
559
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,285
After thoroughly
searching the house,
560
00:26:26,385 --> 00:26:29,722
David took his son with him to
look around the neighborhood.
561
00:26:29,822 --> 00:26:32,158
Hey, Paula, you haven't seen
Jaclyn around here, have you?
562
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:33,525
No, not this
morning I haven't.
563
00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:34,994
I had checked
two or three homes,
564
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,963
and then we went out
in my truck and we
565
00:26:37,063 --> 00:26:39,098
drove around the neighborhood,
going to friends who lived
566
00:26:39,198 --> 00:26:42,068
a little further down, and
just driving around the blocks
567
00:26:42,168 --> 00:26:43,970
and getting out of the
truck, looking in backyards
568
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:45,371
where there's swing sets.
569
00:26:45,471 --> 00:26:49,408
Jaclyn, Jaclyn.
570
00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:50,677
Jaclyn?
571
00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:54,714
I started to get more
nervous, started to walk quicker
572
00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:57,884
and call louder.
573
00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,086
When I went back into
Jaclyn's room and I
574
00:27:00,186 --> 00:27:02,288
noticed that her
comforter was missing,
575
00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:04,290
and that it was very
unusual for her comforter
576
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:06,558
to be missing because
she doesn't play with it.
577
00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:12,031
Did you find her?
578
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,065
No, we've been to every
house in the neighborhood.
579
00:27:13,165 --> 00:27:14,000
No one's seen her.
580
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,001
I've been through
the whole house.
581
00:27:15,101 --> 00:27:16,035
She's not there.
And her quilt's gone.
582
00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:17,436
You know where that is?
- No.
583
00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:18,437
All right.
584
00:27:18,537 --> 00:27:19,839
Well, I'm gonna go
check the Morgans.
585
00:27:19,939 --> 00:27:21,640
I was cutting
through my yard to look
586
00:27:21,741 --> 00:27:23,575
into my neighbor's
backyard, and that's
587
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:26,345
when I noticed the window.
588
00:27:26,445 --> 00:27:27,546
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The window
589
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,683
to the basement apartment
have been broken into.
590
00:27:30,783 --> 00:27:32,484
It appears that an
intruder had used
591
00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:34,721
it to gain access to the house.
592
00:27:34,821 --> 00:27:38,590
Dave, call the police!
593
00:27:38,691 --> 00:27:40,259
Is this a picture of Jaclyn?
594
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,427
Yes.
595
00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:42,829
Mind if hold on to it?
596
00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:44,363
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Within
hours, the Dowaliby household
597
00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:47,066
was swarming with police
and FBI agents who assumed
598
00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:50,837
that Jaclyn had been kidnapped.
599
00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:52,471
They set up wire
tapping equipment
600
00:27:52,571 --> 00:27:56,809
to record any calls which might
come in with ransom demands.
601
00:27:56,909 --> 00:28:00,579
But a kidnapper never called.
602
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,982
[radio chatter]
603
00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:07,720
Four days later, Jaclyn's
body was discovered
604
00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:09,956
in a vacant field in
the adjacent community
605
00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:13,359
of Blue Island, Illinois.
606
00:28:13,459 --> 00:28:15,828
Found at the scene were
the comforter from her bed,
607
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:19,098
her nightgown, and a 26 foot
length of rope which had
608
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:20,499
been wrapped around her throat.
609
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:26,873
It is difficult to imagine
a parent's agony upon losing
610
00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:30,176
a child, but imagine
the additional horror
611
00:28:30,276 --> 00:28:33,679
of being accused of
killing your own daughter.
612
00:28:33,780 --> 00:28:37,549
That is exactly what happened
to David and Cynthia Dowaliby.
613
00:28:37,649 --> 00:28:39,919
Indeed, to this day,
some investigators
614
00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:42,054
are still convinced
that David and Cynthia
615
00:28:42,154 --> 00:28:44,523
murdered Jaclyn, despite
their long standing
616
00:28:44,623 --> 00:28:46,425
claims of innocence.
617
00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,660
Four years later, the
authorities continue
618
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:51,030
to ask the same question--
619
00:28:51,130 --> 00:28:55,734
if the Dowalibys did not kill
their daughter, then who did?
620
00:28:55,835 --> 00:28:57,169
Would you like to
sit down or something?
621
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:58,104
No, it's fine.
622
00:28:58,204 --> 00:28:59,138
What else, what else?
623
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:01,540
What time did you
get up this morning?
624
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,575
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): From
the moment they were notified,
625
00:29:03,675 --> 00:29:06,278
the police investigation
into Jaclyn's disappearance
626
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:07,513
was two pronged.
627
00:29:07,613 --> 00:29:08,881
He said he didn't
know he had seen her.
628
00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:10,482
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): While
they pursued the possibility
629
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,052
of a kidnapping, they began
a detailed questioning
630
00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:15,554
of both Cynthia and David.
631
00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:16,555
Your wife was still asleep?
632
00:29:16,655 --> 00:29:17,890
She was still asleep.
633
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,225
Well, isn't that
kind of strange?
634
00:29:19,325 --> 00:29:22,028
I know in my house with my
kids, one of the kids get up,
635
00:29:22,128 --> 00:29:23,529
it's like the whole family's up.
636
00:29:23,629 --> 00:29:24,630
Well, no.
637
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:26,298
They like to sleep,
so we let them sleep.
638
00:29:26,398 --> 00:29:27,666
It was hard answering
their questions,
639
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:30,736
because telling the police
that you woke up around 8:00
640
00:29:30,837 --> 00:29:31,871
isn't good enough.
641
00:29:31,971 --> 00:29:33,705
They wanted us to get
it as close as possible.
642
00:29:33,806 --> 00:29:37,676
And so we were forced to try
to get really close to times
643
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,646
when really all that was
on our mind was Jaclyn.
644
00:29:40,746 --> 00:29:42,281
I didn't want them
asking me questions,
645
00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,483
although you answer
them as you're
646
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,518
walking past them and pacing.
647
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:48,187
But it was just totally chaotic.
648
00:29:48,287 --> 00:29:52,058
And the repeated questions of
what did you do in the morning,
649
00:29:52,158 --> 00:29:54,927
it seemed so senseless,
because I always said you know,
650
00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:55,962
where's my daughter?
651
00:29:56,062 --> 00:29:57,496
Just find Jaclyn.
652
00:29:57,596 --> 00:29:58,898
That's all I wanted them to do.
- Yes.
653
00:29:58,998 --> 00:29:59,798
All of her girlfriends?
654
00:29:59,899 --> 00:30:01,934
Yes, we did all this!
655
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,436
I know they'll
tell you that they
656
00:30:04,536 --> 00:30:08,240
felt as though they were being
harassed and being accused.
657
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:09,909
I think any reasonable
individual has
658
00:30:10,009 --> 00:30:13,545
got to-- got to understand
that you're in the house,
659
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:15,181
your daughter is missing,
you're a suspect.
660
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:19,551
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Investigators
661
00:30:19,651 --> 00:30:21,087
naturally directed
their attention
662
00:30:21,187 --> 00:30:23,622
to the basement window.
663
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,191
Sharp glass and--
664
00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:26,525
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Initially, they
665
00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,694
believed that the window
had been smashed by someone
666
00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:31,530
on the inside to suggest
that an intruder had
667
00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:32,764
broken it to gain entry.
668
00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:37,403
Do people call you "David?"
669
00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:38,304
DAVID: Yes.
670
00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:40,672
Are you over 21 years old?
671
00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:42,041
Yes.
672
00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:43,742
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On
Sunday, September 11th, a day
673
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,947
after Jaclyn disappeared, David
agreed to take a polygraph test
674
00:30:48,047 --> 00:30:50,649
at FBI headquarters in Chicago.
675
00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:52,484
Did you help or plan
with anyone to cause
676
00:30:52,584 --> 00:30:53,552
Jaclyn's disappearance.
677
00:30:53,652 --> 00:30:54,486
No.
678
00:30:54,586 --> 00:30:57,389
Please remain
facing the front.
679
00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,291
Did you help or plan
with anyone to cause
680
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:02,528
Jaclyn's disappearance.
681
00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:03,495
No.
682
00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:04,763
Are you withholding
any information.
683
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,399
As I left, I asked the
agent next to me if I passed,
684
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:11,237
and he said I passed
with flying colors.
685
00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:12,939
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Three days went by.
686
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,308
The police still had no leads
to Jaclyn's whereabouts.
687
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:20,679
They requested that David
and Cynthia sit and wait.
688
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:23,782
I remember the
days were very long.
689
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,851
You know, the days
seemed like weeks.
690
00:31:25,952 --> 00:31:29,855
And in the night, Cindy and
I would be in the room trying
691
00:31:29,956 --> 00:31:33,292
to imagine where she might be.
692
00:31:33,392 --> 00:31:35,394
I just remember that's
all that was on our minds,
693
00:31:35,494 --> 00:31:37,129
is trying to figure
out where she could be.
694
00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:45,337
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On the
very day Jaclyn's body would be
695
00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:47,906
found, David Dowaliby
was asked to take
696
00:31:48,007 --> 00:31:51,210
a second lie detector test.
697
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,112
Of course I wanted
to know why and what
698
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,981
was wrong with the first one.
699
00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:56,983
And their answer was
something to the effect
700
00:31:57,083 --> 00:32:00,386
that the state likes
to use their own.
701
00:32:00,486 --> 00:32:02,321
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
results from the second test
702
00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:03,956
were inconclusive.
703
00:32:04,056 --> 00:32:07,426
The report cited David as
an uncooperative subject.
704
00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:09,461
However, he believes
the results stem
705
00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:11,998
from a disagreement he
had with a state agent
706
00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:14,733
administering the test.
707
00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,502
At one point, he
asked me to answer
708
00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:17,869
yes to all of his questions.
709
00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:20,039
In other words, he
wanted me to lie
710
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:24,276
so he could see how his tests
would result in me lying.
711
00:32:24,376 --> 00:32:25,477
And I said, OK.
712
00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:27,146
And the second question
he asked me was,
713
00:32:27,246 --> 00:32:28,647
did you kill your daughter?
714
00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:30,082
And he wanted me to
answer yes to that.
715
00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:31,617
And I told him I can't do it.
716
00:32:31,717 --> 00:32:33,385
And he got into a
little argument with me.
717
00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,021
He was turning red
in the face, and he
718
00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:36,255
said we have to do it this way.
719
00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:37,556
You have to lie.
720
00:32:37,656 --> 00:32:38,757
And I don't mind
telling him my name
721
00:32:38,857 --> 00:32:40,326
is not Dave, Dave Dowaliby.
722
00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:42,561
And I don't mind some things,
but I told him I can't say
723
00:32:42,661 --> 00:32:44,596
yes to a question like that.
724
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:46,032
And it upset him.
725
00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:51,437
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After the second test,
726
00:32:51,537 --> 00:32:55,474
David was interrogated
for another five hours.
727
00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:59,978
Finally, an officer interrupted.
728
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,548
We think we found Jaclyn.
729
00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:05,017
Is she OK?
730
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:05,917
I'm sorry.
731
00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:06,818
She's dead.
732
00:33:10,356 --> 00:33:12,358
DAVID (VOICEOVER): I was
convinced that these police
733
00:33:12,458 --> 00:33:13,759
were lying to me
about my daughter's
734
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:16,328
death as a last ditch
effort to try to get
735
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:19,031
me to confess to something.
736
00:33:19,131 --> 00:33:20,199
You liars.
737
00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:21,567
DAVID (VOICEOVER):
Because of the way
738
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:24,236
the interrogation was going,
they were getting frustrated.
739
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,272
David, Jaclyn is dead.
740
00:33:26,372 --> 00:33:27,573
DAVID (VOICEOVER):
I didn't believe it.
741
00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:28,940
And I probably didn't
want to believe it.
742
00:33:39,885 --> 00:33:41,720
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When
David returned home and saw
743
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:47,293
his wife and mother, he knew the
police had told him the truth.
744
00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,728
[sobbing]
745
00:33:52,298 --> 00:33:53,865
Oh God.
746
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:56,135
DAVID (VOICEOVER): Cindy
was on the couch crying,
747
00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:58,003
and I ran up to her, and I
asked her if it was true.
748
00:33:58,104 --> 00:33:59,205
And she said yes.
749
00:33:59,305 --> 00:34:00,606
We lost our daughter.
750
00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:02,341
No.
751
00:34:02,441 --> 00:34:05,043
The feeling was,
well, it can't be.
752
00:34:05,144 --> 00:34:06,578
It's impossible.
753
00:34:06,678 --> 00:34:10,182
It's just too much of a
bizarre nightmare to be real.
754
00:34:10,282 --> 00:34:13,985
And you feel like
it must be a dream.
755
00:34:14,086 --> 00:34:17,523
It was hard to
accept, very hard.
756
00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:21,026
The first thing I
said was, who did it?
757
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:22,228
Who would do this?
758
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,032
I can't explain how
I felt, because I--
759
00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:31,770
I think I went into
shock because I
760
00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:34,573
just laid on the couch, crying.
761
00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:40,279
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): An
autopsy was unable to determine
762
00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:42,914
when Jaclyn had been murdered.
763
00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:48,887
On September 17, 1988,
she was laid to rest.
764
00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:51,623
The joint investigation now
included the Illinois state
765
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:54,293
police, the Midlothian
police, and the police
766
00:34:54,393 --> 00:34:59,298
in Blue Island, where
Jaclyn's body had been found.
767
00:34:59,398 --> 00:35:01,967
For two months, they
collected evidence and built
768
00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:05,771
a case against the Dowalibys.
769
00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:09,641
Finally, in November of 1988,
David and Cynthia Dowaliby were
770
00:35:09,741 --> 00:35:12,578
charged with Jaclyn's murder.
771
00:35:12,678 --> 00:35:16,448
Cynthia was two months pregnant.
772
00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:19,050
In April of 1990,
David and Cynthia
773
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:21,052
Dowaliby went on
trial for the murder
774
00:35:21,153 --> 00:35:22,254
of their daughter Jaclyn.
775
00:35:22,354 --> 00:35:23,689
All rise.
776
00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:25,056
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The prosecution
777
00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:29,561
built its case largely on
circumstantial evidence.
778
00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:32,631
Would you tell us what
the car looked like, sir?
779
00:35:32,731 --> 00:35:34,065
It appeared to
be a dark-colored--
780
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:35,734
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
One prosecution witness,
781
00:35:35,834 --> 00:35:38,404
a transit worker named
Everett Mann, picked David
782
00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:41,006
Dowaliby out of a photo lineup.
783
00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:42,774
He claimed that on the
night of the murder,
784
00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:45,711
he saw a man with a
prominent nose like David's
785
00:35:45,811 --> 00:35:47,546
in a parked car
near the site where
786
00:35:47,646 --> 00:35:49,815
Jaclyn's body was discovered.
787
00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:52,318
Did you make out any
features of that person?
788
00:35:52,418 --> 00:35:54,119
Yes, it was the
nose structure.
789
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:56,087
And could you tell whether
it was a man or a woman?
790
00:35:56,188 --> 00:36:00,326
Everett Mann's claim was
that from 75 yards away,
791
00:36:00,426 --> 00:36:03,295
3/4 of the length
of a football field,
792
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:07,199
on a moonless night
in a dark parking lot,
793
00:36:07,299 --> 00:36:11,470
he saw a profile
of a nose structure
794
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:14,540
that resembled David
Dowaliby's nose structure.
795
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,774
I've been there.
796
00:36:15,874 --> 00:36:17,609
The police have been there.
797
00:36:17,709 --> 00:36:20,212
Every rational person
knows that that's
798
00:36:20,312 --> 00:36:22,714
a physical impossibility.
799
00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:25,684
The photo spread that
Everett Mann was shown
800
00:36:25,784 --> 00:36:30,389
was five photographs all of
white males, all frontal.
801
00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:34,125
He saw the man in the
parking lot from a side view.
802
00:36:34,226 --> 00:36:36,127
Also, David
Dowaliby's photograph
803
00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:40,332
was 30% larger than the other
four photographs in the spread.
804
00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:43,168
So therefore, by definition,
David Dowaliby's nose
805
00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:44,536
was the largest.
806
00:36:44,636 --> 00:36:48,340
If he saw a very large nose,
he picked out David Dowaliby's
807
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,075
photograph because
that was the largest
808
00:36:50,175 --> 00:36:51,477
nose in the photo spread.
809
00:36:51,577 --> 00:36:54,413
Didn't mean that he
saw David Dowaliby.
810
00:36:54,513 --> 00:36:57,816
You remember what
time of day it was?
811
00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:59,251
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Before the trial,
812
00:36:59,351 --> 00:37:00,919
two other eyewitnesses
had claimed
813
00:37:01,019 --> 00:37:03,622
they saw Cynthia Dowaliby's
car in the same area
814
00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:05,857
shortly after the murder.
815
00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:08,694
However, those sightings
were later discredited.
816
00:37:08,794 --> 00:37:11,297
At the exact times the
car was allegedly seen,
817
00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:14,099
it was actually parked in
front of the Dowaliby's house.
818
00:37:17,336 --> 00:37:19,871
Another central issue in
the prosecution's case
819
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:24,209
was a broken window which led
into the basement apartment.
820
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:26,945
The entire law enforcement
investigation in this case
821
00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:29,180
was based on a
faulty assumption,
822
00:37:29,281 --> 00:37:32,017
namely that the basement window
had been broken from inside
823
00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:33,719
as part of an effort
by the Dowalibys
824
00:37:33,819 --> 00:37:36,221
to cover up a crime
that they had committed.
825
00:37:36,322 --> 00:37:38,724
Well, it turned out
that they had already
826
00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,626
arrested and indicted
the Dowalibys
827
00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:43,128
before the official
forensic report came back
828
00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:45,631
on the window, which
conclusively showed that they
829
00:37:45,731 --> 00:37:47,699
had been wrong and that the
basement window had indeed
830
00:37:47,799 --> 00:37:50,168
been broken from the outside.
831
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,572
But by that point, there
was no turning back.
832
00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:55,474
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
prosecution also questioned
833
00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:56,975
whether it was
possible for someone
834
00:37:57,075 --> 00:37:59,811
to enter the house without
disturbing the items which were
835
00:37:59,911 --> 00:38:02,681
perched beneath the window.
836
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:05,484
I found it very difficult
to believe that theory
837
00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:07,586
that someone would break
in a window in the middle
838
00:38:07,686 --> 00:38:11,990
of the night and traverse
over a nightstand, a towel
839
00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:15,561
rack, a TV tray,
makeup and nail polish,
840
00:38:15,661 --> 00:38:18,196
and not disturb anything.
841
00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,165
It's incredible to
imagine someone even
842
00:38:20,265 --> 00:38:22,968
kicking in a window and
making that kind of racket
843
00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:24,903
in the middle of
the night, knowing
844
00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:27,539
there's people in the home.
845
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,441
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): To
prove that such an entry was
846
00:38:29,541 --> 00:38:33,479
possible, David Dowaliby shot
this videotape of a neighbor
847
00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:36,181
crawling through the window.
848
00:38:36,281 --> 00:38:38,717
The prosecution was telling
the judge and the media
849
00:38:38,817 --> 00:38:40,786
that if someone were to come
in, they would have to step
850
00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:43,188
on this towel rack and bend it.
851
00:38:43,288 --> 00:38:45,591
So we put the tower
rack under the window,
852
00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:47,225
and we had my neighbor
crawl in while we
853
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,060
were shooting it with a camera.
854
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,329
And what happened is he
slid in on his belly,
855
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:53,031
and right before he
got to the tower rack,
856
00:38:53,131 --> 00:38:56,067
he wedged his foot on the
wall and held himself out,
857
00:38:56,167 --> 00:39:00,105
hanging off the window ledge.
858
00:39:00,205 --> 00:39:01,940
So we proved it to
ourselves, and we tape
859
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,010
recorded it so that
if there was a chance,
860
00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:07,446
we could prove it to others.
861
00:39:07,546 --> 00:39:10,081
I ask that the indictments
against David and Cynthia
862
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:11,517
Dowaliby be set aside for--
863
00:39:11,617 --> 00:39:13,018
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The Dowalibys never
864
00:39:13,118 --> 00:39:15,487
testified on their own behalf.
865
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:17,423
Before closing
arguments, the judge
866
00:39:17,523 --> 00:39:21,259
addressed attorneys from both
sides without the jury present.
867
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,962
It's my position that
there is sufficient evidence
868
00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:27,466
for David Dowaliby's
case to go to the jury.
869
00:39:27,566 --> 00:39:29,935
As to Cynthia Dowaliby
and as a legal matter,
870
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,604
I'm ruling that there
is insufficient evidence
871
00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:34,305
for her case to go to the jury.
872
00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:44,082
The court was
adjourned for a while,
873
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:48,353
and we just kept telling David
in the hall that he was next
874
00:39:48,454 --> 00:39:51,356
and he was next, that
this is obviously
875
00:39:51,457 --> 00:39:53,492
where the jury's heading also.
876
00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:55,026
Have you reached a
verdict in this case?
877
00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:55,927
WOMAN: Yes, your Honor.
878
00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:57,328
We have.
879
00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:59,064
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
jury deliberated for three days
880
00:39:59,164 --> 00:40:02,901
on the fate of David Dowaliby.
881
00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:04,603
I was really up.
882
00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:07,205
I felt for sure we were going
to get a not guilty verdict.
883
00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:10,942
Will the defendant
please rise?
884
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:12,410
Of course I'm so
anxious, I was trying
885
00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:15,981
to read into the judge's
eyes, into his reaction
886
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,716
of what it could be, but
I was getting nothing.
887
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:24,422
We, the jury, find the
defendant, David Dowaliby,
888
00:40:24,523 --> 00:40:27,926
guilty of murder in
the first degree.
889
00:40:28,026 --> 00:40:30,829
We, the jury, find the
defendant, David Dowaliby,
890
00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:33,164
guilty of concealment
of a homicidal death.
891
00:40:36,902 --> 00:40:38,970
I think I went into shock.
892
00:40:39,070 --> 00:40:41,473
I wasn't even conscious
of anything around me.
893
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,308
It was unbelievable.
894
00:40:43,408 --> 00:40:45,477
And it didn't matter
what to me at that point,
895
00:40:45,577 --> 00:40:47,513
because I really wasn't
there, even though I was.
896
00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:53,084
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
David Dowaliby
897
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:56,588
was sentenced to 45 years in
the Stateville maximum security
898
00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:58,456
prison in Joliet, Illinois.
899
00:41:02,594 --> 00:41:04,830
But even as he began
serving his sentence,
900
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,965
a grassroots movement
was being organized
901
00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:12,003
by Cynthia and friends of the
family to reverse the decision.
902
00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:14,105
Their efforts caught
the attention of Chicago
903
00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:16,575
journalist David Protess.
904
00:41:16,675 --> 00:41:18,510
In a series of
newspaper articles,
905
00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:22,380
he criticized the
official investigation.
906
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,350
Well, Carol, the Dowaliby
trial ended in a split decision
907
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:27,886
because it was a
circumstantial case.
908
00:41:27,986 --> 00:41:29,287
There was no physical evidence.
909
00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:31,523
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Later,
television reporter Paul Hogan
910
00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:33,792
collaborated with
Protess in a series
911
00:41:33,892 --> 00:41:35,326
of investigative reports.
912
00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:36,828
It didn't have to be that way.
913
00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:39,665
Our expert says the state police
evidence technician, whose
914
00:41:39,765 --> 00:41:42,901
primary job was to seek out and
collect all physical evidence,
915
00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:44,335
should have
immediately collected
916
00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:45,837
and inventoried the glass.
917
00:41:45,937 --> 00:41:48,406
Instead, he waited three days
and then had to retrieve it
918
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,041
from a trash basket.
919
00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,442
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The news reports
920
00:41:51,543 --> 00:41:54,012
and shifting public sentiment
brought about a stunning turn
921
00:41:54,112 --> 00:41:54,913
of events.
922
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,281
Is he just about out?
923
00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:57,549
He's just about
ready to come out.
924
00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:59,084
- Oh, that's great.
- Did you get a call?
925
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:00,018
Did somebody call you?
926
00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,452
Yes, we just got
the phone call.
927
00:42:01,553 --> 00:42:03,421
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In October of 1991,
928
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,691
the Illinois court of
appeals unanimously
929
00:42:05,791 --> 00:42:07,659
overturned the
verdict and dismissed
930
00:42:07,759 --> 00:42:09,961
David Dowaliby's case.
931
00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:13,799
He was released from prison
after serving 18 months.
932
00:42:13,899 --> 00:42:15,734
Today's not a day to be
bitter or to look back.
933
00:42:15,834 --> 00:42:17,368
I'm just looking forward
to seeing my family.
934
00:42:17,468 --> 00:42:19,470
So maybe in a few weeks
or so, once it's sunk in,
935
00:42:19,571 --> 00:42:22,140
I might look back and decide
what to do next, but--
936
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,541
What are you going
to say to the kids?
937
00:42:23,642 --> 00:42:26,244
And the appellate
court, in my mind,
938
00:42:26,344 --> 00:42:28,546
did not find David
Dowaliby innocent.
939
00:42:28,647 --> 00:42:31,617
They released him
for lack of evidence.
940
00:42:31,717 --> 00:42:36,087
Someone in that home was
responsible for Jaclyn's death.
941
00:42:36,187 --> 00:42:38,256
And I still believe that.
942
00:42:38,356 --> 00:42:41,292
I haven't discovered
any evidence
943
00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:45,263
or been told any other, given
any other facts that would lead
944
00:42:45,363 --> 00:42:47,098
me to believe any differently.
945
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,705
We're left with the mystery
of what happened to Jaclyn,
946
00:42:53,805 --> 00:42:59,244
and we wonder all the time what
could have happened to her.
947
00:42:59,344 --> 00:43:02,580
Who could have hurt her?
948
00:43:02,681 --> 00:43:09,187
We just want the
ability to try to go on,
949
00:43:09,287 --> 00:43:12,290
but we want to find out
what happened to Jaclyn.
950
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:13,191
We want justice.
951
00:43:17,629 --> 00:43:22,467
What it all boils down to is
we lost a precious little girl.
952
00:43:22,567 --> 00:43:26,071
And nothing beyond that is
as bad as losing Jaclyn.
953
00:43:26,171 --> 00:43:29,875
Going to prison, being accused
of this crime, it's all bad,
954
00:43:29,975 --> 00:43:33,011
but it doesn't compare
to losing Jaclyn.
955
00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:35,647
So that was the
hardest part of it
956
00:43:35,747 --> 00:43:39,384
all, and we keep falling
back on the same, on Jaclyn.
957
00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:43,755
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Update,
958
00:43:43,855 --> 00:43:46,858
after we aired this story, two
viewers called our telecenter
959
00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:49,260
with crucial information
which refuted
960
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,498
the alibi of one of the
original suspects in the case.
961
00:43:53,598 --> 00:43:55,466
As a result of the
new revelations,
962
00:43:55,566 --> 00:43:58,436
the state attorney's office
reopened the investigation
963
00:43:58,536 --> 00:44:00,939
of Jaclyn Dowaliby's murder.
964
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,341
However, at this time,
there are no plans to file
965
00:44:03,441 --> 00:44:04,609
new charges in the case.
966
00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:24,162
Join me next time.
967
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:26,832
Perhaps you may be able
to help solve a mystery.
968
00:44:29,935 --> 00:44:32,570
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