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NARRATOR: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK: In
1987, Wytheville,
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Virginia was deluged by
an unprecedented wave
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of UFO sightings.
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Our newsman, Danny Gordon, the
man at the center of the storm,
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the sightings began a series
of threatening phone calls
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and break-ins, which made
him regret that he ever
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went public with the story.
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When a newspaper
reporter in Ohio
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began researching several
unconnected murders,
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he had no idea that his
investigation would take him
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into a dark and
dangerous subculture
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and put him on the trail of
a possible serial killer.
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70 Years ago, a man named
Bill Beaty had a vision.
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He would build a magnificent
castle in the rolling
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hills of New Jersey.
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Today many people believe
they have seen his ghost
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roaming the grounds,
unable and unwilling
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to leave his masterpiece.
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Join me for another edition
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
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During the past five
years, "Unsolved Mysteries"
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has broadcast a
number of stories
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dealing with unidentified
flying objects.
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Viewed in retrospect,
they chronicle
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the history of UFO sightings
in America and Europe.
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Today most of us take tales
of UFO sightings for granted.
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Yet the phenomenon was
virtually unheard of until just
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after World War II.
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1947.
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The genesis of UFO
sightings unfolded
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in the New Mexico desert
near Roswell Army Airbase.
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Military investigators were
called in to examine the debris
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of an unknown aircraft.
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The incident was thoroughly
documented and even publicized.
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Incredibly, a few eyewitnesses
claimed that alien life
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forms were also recovered.
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Ultimately, the authorities
denied the entire affair
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and insisted the
UFO was nothing more
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than a downed weather balloon.
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18 Years later in
1965, residents
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of a small Pennsylvania
village observed
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a fiery object streaked through
the sky then fall to Earth.
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Many witnesses saw an
Air Force radar squadron
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hauling the object away.
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The military dismissed the
sighting as a meteorite
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and insisted that nothing
was ever recovered.
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Over the next 25 years,
reports of close encounters
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proliferated, many of them
on or near military bases.
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One of the most remarkable
occurred on December 26, 1980
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at Bentwaters, an American
air base in England.
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There's definitely
something up there.
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It's coming down from an object
to the ground near our feet.
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ROBERT STACK: According
to eyewitnesses,
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the sightings continued
in various forms
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until December 28.
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The next day a
continental way in Texas,
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a woman named
Betty Cash suffered
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severe radiation burns.
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She claims she had been
exposed to the energy field
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of a bizarre flying object.
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Most recently,
between 1989 and 1991,
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thousands of people in Belgium
reported a literal invasion
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of strange, unearthly crafts.
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Amazingly, the Belgian air force
is able to capture on radar
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a swift and erratic movements
of an unidentified craft which
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defined the laws
of known physics.
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For those of us who have
never encountered a UFO,
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reports of such events
often sound far fetched.
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In fact, some
eyewitnesses who go
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public risk becoming the
object of ridicule and scorn.
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Others are simply ignored.
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In either case, an
acknowledged UFO sighting
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can profoundly change
a person's life in ways
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that he or she never
imagined possible.
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Wytheville, Virginia,
population 8,000,
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is nestled in the foothills
of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
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Country music station WYVE calls
itself the voice of Wytheville.
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On most days, life
here is peaceful,
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unpretentious, and uneventful,
but that was about to change.
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Good morning, Sheriff.
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Danny Gordon.
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ROBERT STACK: On
October 7, 1987,
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radio reporter, Danny
Gordon, checked in as usual
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with a county sheriff and
heard an unbelievable tale.
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Over near Austinville?
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Uh-huh.
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All right.
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Got anything else?
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You're kidding me.
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ROBERT STACK: Three
Wythe County sheriffs
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deputies, all
former military men,
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claimed they had seen a UFO.
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When was that?
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SWITCHBOARD
ASSISTANT: OK, Danny.
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You're on three, two, one.
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Unidentified
flying objects have
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been sighted over Wythe County
on Monday and Tuesday evenings.
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The Wythe County
Sheriff's Department
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was notified by a number of--
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DANNY: There was
a filler piece who
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came on at the end of the
news, which I usually relegate
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to something that may be an
unusual, like we had one police
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officer kill five chickens
once with two shots,
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and that was a story that
ran as kind of a ha-ha piece.
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And this was another
ha-ha piece and being
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a very skeptical newsman,
it was definitely
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not a lead part of my news.
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ROBERT STACK: Danny
Gordon's fluff story
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sparked unprecedented
listener reaction.
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Reports of UFO sightings
poured into WYVE.
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With the switchboard jammed,
Gordon finally set up
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a special call-in
program for the evening
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of October 19, 1987.
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Hello.
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This is Danny Gordon.
You're on the air.
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Go ahead, please.
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ROBERT STACK: What follows is
based on verbatim transcripts
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of the actual telephone calls.
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WOMAN (ON PHONE): It
was very, very huge.
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It was long, and it
didn't have any sound.
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It had a big light on the front
and one in the center and one
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in the back.
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MAN (ON PHONE): Well, it
kind of looks something
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about like an egg shape to me.
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WOMAN (ON PHONE): What
we could see was red,
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green, and white, sort
of flashing lights.
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We saw a plane go by
with red flashing lights.
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We knew it wasn't
a jet of any sort.
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OK.
Well, I appreciate that.
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Thanks a lot.
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For being a
brass-tacks journalist,
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I always believe there is a
plausible, logical explanation.
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And I felt at that time that
it was military of some nature
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and that we would
find the reason
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in a short period of time.
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ROBERT STACK: Danny
Gordon thought
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the UFOs are most likely
experimental aircraft
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being tested out of Virginia's
Langley Air Force Base.
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But he was repeatedly
told by the military
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that there was no
testing going on.
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As more and more
residents had sightings,
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the military did come
up with one explanation.
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MARY: Everybody had been telling
us that what people were seeing
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were planes refueling.
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And so I said, well, I didn't
know that's how they did that.
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And then I thought,
well, why are they
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do that down over my house?
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Isn't this something
they should be doing
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away from populated areas?
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I call the Pentagon and
talked to the Air Force general
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there who told me if they are
refueling under 13,000 feet,
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then somebody's
butt is in a sling.
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And to this day, we
don't know if they
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were refueling at 5,000 feet.
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But at the same time, I have
asked if it is military,
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then I'll back off the story
and leave it alone if you
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tell me because I'm a patriot.
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And each time I'm told it's
not us, we're not doing it,
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and we haven't been doing it.
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ROBERT STACK: On October
21, just two weeks
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after the original report,
Danny Gordon and a friend, Roger
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Hall, drove to the area
south of Wytheville
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where most of the
sightings had occurred.
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They brought along a
35-millimeter still camera
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as well as a video camera.
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We were headed home after
two hours of fruitless
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searching about a
quarter till 9:00
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on Route 21 South
coming into Wytheville,
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and just happened
to look to my left
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and saw a very unusual object
coming across the horizon.
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What's that?
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What?
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Over there.
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Some lights or something.
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I'm going to pull over.
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I pulled off to the side of the
road in a hurry, jumped out.
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He got out on the right side.
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And as he got out, I noticed
the craft was coming at me.
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It was very large.
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It had a dome shape to
the top of it and no wings
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and had what appeared
to be a strobe
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putting out multi-colored lights
on the right side of the craft.
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What the hell is that?
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I don't know.
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It was probably less
than 1,000 feet away
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and 1,000 feet high
at the maximum.
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We guessed it would
be in at least two
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football fields in diameter.
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You can see three huge,
looked like picture
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windows in the back of it that
were lit from the inside out.
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DANNY: As I watched the sky
from the left, came a red ball.
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As a big mother ship went
into a small skiff of clouds,
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the red ball docked
with the craft.
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It was like you were
watching a computer game
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and watching these things
develop on the video screen.
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Did you get a picture of that?
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No.
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Didn't you?
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I left the camera
on the trunk.
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Where's your camera?
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In the car.
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I was driving.
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Oh.
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DANNY: We looked at each other
and realized no pictures.
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The camera was not in my hand,
the camera was not in his hand,
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and we both knew we blew it.
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The only thing I can say is
we were just awe struck by it
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or just dumb, whichever one.
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I'm not sure which, but we sure
didn't get any pictures of it.
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ROBERT STACK: The next
night, Gordon and Hall
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would go out again.
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This time they would
take photographs.
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With a film still
undeveloped, a press
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conference was called
for the following day,
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October 23, 1987.
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DANNY: The night before
the press conference,
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I received a phone call
from somebody who refused
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to identify himself,
and they said
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that I needed to
be aware of the CIA
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and the federal government
were very much interested
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in the Wythe County UFOs.
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I started to wonder
what I'd stepped into.
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And my wife was urging me to
back off, to leave it alone.
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And I also was receiving
some anonymous phone calls
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saying it's something
you need to leave it
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alone because it's
not your place to be
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messing in defense matters.
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Becky?
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ROBERT STACK: After
the press conference,
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Gordon discovered that his
house had been broken into.
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Becky.
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ROBERT STACK: Oddly,
nothing was stolen,
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and Gordon is convinced
it's someone was
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looking for the photographs.
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When developed, the pictures
revealed only vague streaks
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of light in the sky.
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But Danny Gordon would soon
have another opportunity
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to photograph the UFOs.
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What about the tree?
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ROBERT STACK: Six weeks
later on December 2,
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Danny, his wife,
and daughter were
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leaving the local mall
when they encountered
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some unexpected visitors.
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[shouting]
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BECKY: Honey, what is that?
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DANNY: We looked very quickly
and saw what I thought
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was one large object,
which later appeared
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to be four flying disk shapes.
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As soon as the objects
were photographed,
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they disappeared from view.
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When the pictures came out,
they had a lot of grain,
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but they showed definite four
shapes of objects in the sky.
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But the most impressive point
in the four photographs,
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the objects appear to change
shape or light formations
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within one click of the camera.
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They go from a teardrop
shape to a round ball shape,
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then they go to a
flying-saucer like disk shape,
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and then they go to the egg
shape as they go out of sight.
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ROBERT STACK: The
people of Wytheville
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knew that something
extraordinary
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was happening in their town.
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By the end of
December, the sightings
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numbered well over 1,500.
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One of the first occurred
here, near Interstate 81,
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a mile from downtown Wytheville.
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Eyewitnesses said
the craft resembled
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a brilliantly-lit,
whirling carousel.
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Immediately, other
sightings cropped up.
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I'm not mistaken about
what we saw, absolutely not.
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Because we'd never
seen this before.
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We didn't have any reason
to make any stories up.
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I kept a journal what I saw.
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ROBERT STACK: Patricia Aker had
10 sightings, all of them here,
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eight miles north of Wytheville.
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PATRICIA: The best way I can
describe them is that they look
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like a cross between a
helicopter and an airplane
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with no noise or
very little noise.
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And to be so large, I don't
know how they stayed up.
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I'd say that the
educated psychologists
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and psychiatrists have debunked
what we've seen and everything.
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They've never been here.
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They've never seen it.
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I was skeptic until I
started seeing this stuff.
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ROBERT STACK: Rita Marie Vaught
saw a UFO behind this ridge,
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half a mile from her house.
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RITA: I've seen
the circular object
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in the sky, all
different colors that
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kept going around and around.
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It would be sort of
looking like a carousel,
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but it didn't scare me.
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None of this has scared me.
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Until I see the little
green men walking around,
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I won't be scared.
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You just had this feeling
of something really,
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really big just move and
just drifting over your head
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and no sound or anything.
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ROBERT STACK: Mary Jane
Williamson's sightings
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occurred directly
above her house
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in the center of Wytheville.
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MARY: It had all
the white lights
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in the front, just a big,
semicircle of white lights,
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and it was just huge.
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I mean, it was just
absolutely huge.
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But you couldn't actually see an
outline or anything like that.
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I know it wasn't
the planet Venus,
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and I know it was not
atmospheric phenomena.
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These were some kind of
craft moving over our house.
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Eventually I got around
to calling the Pentagon
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and talk with the spokesman
for defense at the Pentagon,
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and he speaks for all
the defense branches.
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And he told me, quote twice,
"We do not deny UFOs exist.
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The government
confirms they exist,
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but we deny they pose a
threat to the populace
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of Wythe County."
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And my question was,
how do you know this?
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And he said, I can't tell you,
but there is no threat to you.
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So that's reason we're not
sending convoys of aircraft
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down there to
protect Wythe County.
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ROBERT STACK: On March
19, 1988, Danny Gordon
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was packing for a broadcaster's
conference in Virginia Beach
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where he was to speak
about his UFO coverage.
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DANNY: I received
a phone call home
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from a retired military
intelligence officer.
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And first he told
me to make sure
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that I tape conversations
so he could put the date
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and everyone to be aware.
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00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,526
And I said why do you
want to tape this?
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And he said, I want your friends
to know if something happens
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00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:10,597
to you that I forewarned you.
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00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:11,731
Who's this?
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00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:12,965
INTELLIGENCE OFFICER:
What I'm telling you,
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00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:15,001
Danny, is I've been
pursuing this thing
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00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:16,536
for many, many years.
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00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:21,040
Like I said, I saw my
son dying from leukemia.
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He told me that because
of his investigation
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00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:25,478
into the UFO field that
they had hit his son
341
00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:27,347
and caused his son
to die with some kind
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00:17:27,447 --> 00:17:29,416
of virus connected to leukemia.
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00:17:29,516 --> 00:17:30,817
Danny, who is it?
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00:17:30,917 --> 00:17:32,152
It's nothing, honey.
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00:17:32,252 --> 00:17:34,020
DANNY: He said that
he had information
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00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,689
that the federal government
was not very happy with my UFO
347
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:38,091
investigations.
348
00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:40,827
And they felt like I
was too loud of a voice
349
00:17:40,927 --> 00:17:44,597
to quiet just by killing me,
which made me very happy.
350
00:17:44,697 --> 00:17:47,534
And he said they want to quiet
you in a different fashion.
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00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:48,801
INTELLIGENCE OFFICER:
What I'm telling
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00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,838
you is they will try to
hit you if they think it's
353
00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,307
practical for their purposes
to keep you from further
354
00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:58,010
investigating this thing, and
it will most likely be done
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00:17:58,111 --> 00:17:59,579
through skin-contact chemicals.
356
00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:02,182
It could be something on
the door knob or your car
357
00:18:02,282 --> 00:18:03,950
or on the steering wheel.
358
00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,586
They can also come
up with something,
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00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,788
do something to your children.
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00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:12,259
You know, it's one thing for
someone to threaten myself.
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00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,660
When you threaten
my family, you are
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00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,628
treading on very thin water.
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00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:19,299
So when I found out that
he could be believed,
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just could be, it scared me,
at the same time made me mad.
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00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,606
Because I had to try to protect
my family, protect myself,
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and at the same time because
I believe in free speech,
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00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:32,679
I was refusing to allow this
man to stop me from going
368
00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:34,847
to Virginia Beach to talk.
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00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:36,449
Well, I'm going
to Virginia Beach.
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INTELLIGENCE
OFFICER: [inaudible]
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you think I'm some crack pot?
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00:18:38,918 --> 00:18:40,387
No, I appreciate it.
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I appreciate that.
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00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:45,725
Thank you for calling.
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00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:47,427
What was that about?
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00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,529
Oh, nothing, honey.
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00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:52,465
Oddly enough, it was the same
weekend there was a hepatitis
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00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:54,534
epidemic in Virginia Beach.
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00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:57,270
Had I come down with hepatitis,
I would have believed
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00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:59,539
and everyone would have
believed they had gotten to me.
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00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:02,342
But I came back
with no problems,
382
00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:03,976
and the children
were in good shape.
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00:19:06,946 --> 00:19:08,348
ROBERT STACK: Less
than one month
384
00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,783
after the disturbing
phone call, Gordon had two
385
00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:12,018
surprise visitors at his home.
386
00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:13,386
My name is Ernest.
This is my associate, Michael.
387
00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:14,721
We're with "The
Richmond Gazette."
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00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:16,456
I'd like to ask you a few
questions, if you don't mind,
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00:19:16,556 --> 00:19:17,957
about these recent UFO
sightings I understand
390
00:19:18,057 --> 00:19:19,792
you're involved with.
- Well, that would be fine.
391
00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,194
OK, great.
392
00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:23,996
ROBERT STACK: They remained for
approximately 45 minutes, one
393
00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:26,633
interviewing Danny
Gordon, the other roaming
394
00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,134
through the house,
snapping photographs.
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00:19:28,235 --> 00:19:29,469
How did you
personally get involved?
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DANNY: They had
told me when they
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00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:32,672
left they would send me
a copy of the article
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00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:34,207
so I could peruse it.
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00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,776
And when I didn't even receive
one, I called the newspaper,
400
00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:38,745
and they said, well, these two
guys are not on our payroll.
401
00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,079
They don't work for us.
402
00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,849
So who they were, I don't know,
but they were in my house,
403
00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,485
saw my pictures, saw my
negatives, talked to my family,
404
00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:48,087
took pictures, and
then left, but they
405
00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,589
were not with the newspaper.
406
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:51,358
I think we've got everything
we need, Mr. Gordon.
407
00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:52,859
Thank you very
much for your time.
408
00:19:52,959 --> 00:19:53,726
Thank you.
409
00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,141
ROBERT STACK: A few
weeks later, Danny Gordon
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00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:12,645
sat down to organize and
catalog his UFO photographs.
411
00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:20,086
DANNY: When I got to the
canister which had the UFO
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00:20:20,186 --> 00:20:24,156
negatives, I quickly opened
it up and found some UFO
413
00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:26,259
negatives, but the one
negative with the shots from
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the shopping mall was missing.
415
00:20:29,296 --> 00:20:31,197
I felt like maybe there was
something in those photographs
416
00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:32,565
that I was not seeing.
417
00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,602
So I took the photographs to
some other people to look at.
418
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,304
We used magnifying glasses.
419
00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:40,039
We measured angles trying to
find out why these photographs
420
00:20:40,139 --> 00:20:41,374
were so important.
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00:20:41,474 --> 00:20:43,743
And we've yet to discover why
anyone would want to steal
422
00:20:43,843 --> 00:20:46,946
that one specific set
of four in a series
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of photographs of the UFOs.
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00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,584
ROBERT STACK: Danny
Gordon had nearly
425
00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,286
reached the end of his rope.
426
00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,021
His house had been broken into.
427
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:57,324
He had received countless
late-night phone calls,
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00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,859
some of them threatening.
429
00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,895
Bogus reporters had
visited his home.
430
00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:06,065
Finally, his UFO
negatives disappeared.
431
00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:12,339
Two months later, the stress
caught up with Danny Gordon.
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00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:21,314
BECKY: Somebody help us, please.
- What's going on?
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BECKY: He just keels over.
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00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:23,483
He getting done with some work.
435
00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:24,651
I think he's having
a heart attack.
436
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:25,518
Hang on, sir.
What happened?
437
00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:26,653
Not so well.
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00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:27,987
ROBERT STACK: Doctors
would later determined
439
00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:30,289
that the attack had been brought
on, not by heart problems,
440
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:33,360
but by severe exhaustion.
441
00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:35,261
Danny Gordon was
cautioned that continued
442
00:21:35,362 --> 00:21:37,330
involvement with
the UFO controversy
443
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,698
could jeopardize his health.
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00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:45,905
DANNY: I, myself, had not had
a sighting since December 1990,
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00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,841
but purposely, I don't go
out and look because it
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00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:50,209
upset my life enough.
447
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:55,548
I would just as soon never see
a UFO again in my lifetime.
448
00:21:55,648 --> 00:22:00,086
If I had my choice, I'd not
report the UFO story again.
449
00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:01,821
It's just been too
hard on my life
450
00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,592
and created too many problems.
451
00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:08,495
Don't look up, because
once you look up
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00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:10,630
and you tell somebody
what you saw,
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00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:11,931
your life is changed forever.
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00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:21,374
ROBERT STACK: In late
1987, Danny Gordon
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00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:23,576
received an average
of 500 telephone calls
456
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,745
about UFOs each month.
457
00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:29,281
Today the calls have dwindled
to approximately 50 per month.
458
00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:33,052
The UFO heyday in Wytheville
has apparently drawn to a close.
459
00:22:33,152 --> 00:22:36,188
Danny Gordon's health and
life are back to normal.
460
00:22:36,288 --> 00:22:38,991
But if history is any
indicator, some time
461
00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:43,162
soon in another small town
someone else will look up
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00:22:43,262 --> 00:22:45,765
and his or her life
will never be the same.
463
00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:51,938
Next in Ohio, a
reporter's curiosity
464
00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,874
leads to a statewide hunt
for a possible serial killer.
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00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:11,491
On April 19, 1990, a
partially nude body of a woman
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was found behind a truck
stop at Licking County, Ohio.
467
00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,130
She had been beaten to death.
468
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,366
All of her jewelry and
some articles of clothing
469
00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:21,333
were missing.
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00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:23,736
What about the
bruising on the eye?
471
00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:26,138
ROBERT STACK: Despite an
extensive investigation
472
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:29,909
by county sheriffs, the
victim was never identified.
473
00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:33,480
No one was aware that her
murder was not an isolated case.
474
00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:38,918
Four years earlier the
body of this woman,
475
00:23:39,018 --> 00:23:41,353
23-year-old Shirley
Dean Taylor, was
476
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:44,724
found behind a traffic
barrier on Interstate 71
477
00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:47,560
in nearby Medina County.
478
00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:50,563
Taylor, a known prostitute,
had also been beaten to death.
479
00:23:50,663 --> 00:23:54,400
Let's get her down
to the county morgue.
480
00:23:54,501 --> 00:23:57,069
ROBERT STACK: As in the
case of the Jane Doe,
481
00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:59,506
all jewelry and several
pieces of clothing
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00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:00,907
had been removed from the body.
483
00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:10,550
No one would connect the nearly
identical murders until 1990.
484
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:14,420
In November of that year,
Michael Berens, a reporter
485
00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:16,322
for "The Columbus
Dispatch," began
486
00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:18,858
preliminary research
for a possible story
487
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:21,160
on serial killers.
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00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,830
MICHAEL: I had remembered a
statement that an FBI agent had
489
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:27,500
once said that prostitutes
make the ideal serial killer
490
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,336
victim because they're transient
and often their disappearances
491
00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:32,605
aren't reported immediately.
492
00:24:32,705 --> 00:24:34,406
So I started looking
at prostitute deaths
493
00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:38,244
all cross Ohio primarily using
newspaper stories as the way
494
00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:40,680
to track those deaths.
495
00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,749
ROBERT STACK: Berens
began to cross-reference
496
00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,951
unsolved murder cases in Ohio.
497
00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,820
A sinister pattern soon emerged.
498
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,956
Eight women in eight
different countries
499
00:24:50,056 --> 00:24:52,525
had been beaten or
strangled to death.
500
00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,528
Each was found alongside
a major interstate.
501
00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:59,265
Each was a known or
suspected prostitute.
502
00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:02,268
MICHAEL: All of these women
who were killed in Ohio
503
00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:05,237
also worked at truck stops or
were last believed to have been
504
00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:06,505
working at a truck
stop, and that
505
00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:08,608
was the third major
factor that started
506
00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:09,976
tying these deaths together.
507
00:25:15,882 --> 00:25:18,751
ROBERT STACK: Michael Berens
began an investigation that
508
00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,588
took him into a little
known subculture of Ohio's
509
00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:22,521
interstate truck stops.
510
00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:29,662
MICHAEL: You drive by them
and see these restaurants
511
00:25:29,762 --> 00:25:31,664
and these trucks, but
until you sit there,
512
00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:34,066
you don't see what the
underbelly, the underworld
513
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:37,036
of these little mini
cities that form each night
514
00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:40,106
and then break apart each
morning and come together.
515
00:25:40,206 --> 00:25:42,374
WOMAN: See you
next time, sweetie.
516
00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:43,843
MAN: Yeah.
You take care.
517
00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:44,977
ROBERT STACK:
Berens discovered a
518
00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,747
flourishing sex-for-sale
industry at truck stops
519
00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:49,448
throughout the State.
520
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:53,920
On any given night, any number
of women were available.
521
00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:56,756
MICHAEL: The prostitutes
work off a CB radio,
522
00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:59,158
and it's all done anonymously.
523
00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:00,893
The prostitute would
get on the radio
524
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:03,195
and give her handle and
some little catch phrase
525
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:05,397
that she's developed
as her trademark.
526
00:26:05,497 --> 00:26:07,199
And the trucker will answer
back and say, yeah, this
527
00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:09,001
is the blue Peterbilt in row 3.
528
00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:10,102
Come meet me.
529
00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:11,871
And she goes off to the truck.
530
00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:13,572
And then usually when
she gets in the truck,
531
00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:16,575
she'll use the trucker's CB
to radio to her next customer.
532
00:26:19,612 --> 00:26:22,048
ROBERT STACK: 27-Year-old
Anna Marie Patterson
533
00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:24,016
was a sixth known victim.
534
00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,485
In reviewing the
investigation of her murder,
535
00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,288
Michael Berens uncovered
several possible clues
536
00:26:29,388 --> 00:26:32,458
to the killer's identity.
537
00:26:32,558 --> 00:26:33,359
Hey there, guys.
538
00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:34,661
This is Sleeping Beauty.
539
00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:37,697
If you're looking for
a good time, come back.
540
00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:40,466
ROBERT STACK: On
February 8, 1987,
541
00:26:40,566 --> 00:26:44,036
Anna Marie was working at a
truck stop in Austintown, Ohio,
542
00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:46,739
150 miles north of Columbus.
543
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,241
According to witnesses,
just after midnight,
544
00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:52,544
Anna Marie answered a call from
a driver of a black or dark
545
00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:54,246
blue Peterbilt truck.
546
00:26:54,346 --> 00:26:57,083
The man used the
CB handle Dr. No.
547
00:26:57,183 --> 00:26:58,017
Hey, how you doing?
548
00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:58,951
Sleeping Beauty?
549
00:26:59,051 --> 00:26:59,919
Mine sure enough.
550
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:00,820
Come on up.
551
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,088
How you doing tonight?
552
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:03,055
Great.
553
00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:05,457
My god, it's
freezing out there.
554
00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:06,358
Oh, don't you worry.
555
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:07,293
I'll warm you up.
556
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:14,466
ROBERT STACK: 25 days
later, Anna Marie's body
557
00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:19,371
was found alongside Interstate
71 north of Cincinnati.
558
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,174
SHERIFF COLLINS: Anna
Marie was found about 250
559
00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:25,978
miles from where she was
last seen, in a field,
560
00:27:26,078 --> 00:27:28,748
in a drainage ditch.
561
00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:31,884
We had about four to
six inches of water.
562
00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,921
Her head had been bashed in,
and she was brutally beaten.
563
00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:35,988
She wasn't just killed.
564
00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:38,124
She was mutilated, in essence.
565
00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:41,761
A sleeping bag has a
body, of a white female.
566
00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:44,731
MICHAEL: Anna Marie had
a rule of only staying
567
00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:46,999
in the truck stop and
would not allow a trucker
568
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,068
to take her off the stop.
569
00:27:49,168 --> 00:27:50,302
That's why it's
believed that she
570
00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:52,304
was probably killed
or at least knocked
571
00:27:52,404 --> 00:27:55,207
unconscious at the stop.
572
00:27:55,307 --> 00:27:57,043
ROBERT STACK: At the
time of her death,
573
00:27:57,143 --> 00:27:59,746
Anna Marie Patterson
was six months pregnant.
574
00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:02,715
An autopsy revealed that she
had been killed within 48
575
00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,817
hours of her disappearance.
576
00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:06,585
The condition of
her body clearly
577
00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:09,588
indicated that the killer
had kept it refrigerated
578
00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:12,191
for nearly a month.
579
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,026
MICHAEL: There has
been some speculation
580
00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,528
that some of these
victims have been driven
581
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,898
many more miles than
the actual distance
582
00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:21,433
from last seen to found.
583
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,436
There may be an indication that
the killer is doing something
584
00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:27,539
with these victims, either
verbally, physically,
585
00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,177
or otherwise after death.
586
00:28:31,277 --> 00:28:32,678
ROBERT STACK:
According to Berens,
587
00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,681
the killing spree began with the
murder of an unidentified woman
588
00:28:35,782 --> 00:28:38,617
in April of 1981.
589
00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:41,788
Over the next nine years, the
bodies of seven other victims
590
00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:44,924
were dumped along interstates
in different counties.
591
00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:48,494
Each woman was viciously
beaten or strangled to death.
592
00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:52,498
Each had jewelry and clothing
removed from her body.
593
00:28:52,598 --> 00:28:54,033
MICHAEL: The
conclusion we reached
594
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:56,502
is that there was
overwhelming evidence
595
00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:59,772
that a potential serial killer
was trolling Ohio interstates
596
00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:01,473
in search of
victims, and not only
597
00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,542
Ohio, but many
different Midwest States
598
00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:05,644
and even going to
the east coast.
599
00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,580
We thought the evidence was
overwhelming to present that
600
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,983
to the public.
601
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:14,720
ROBERT STACK: On March 10,
1991, "The Columbus Dispatch"
602
00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:16,823
ran Michael Berens' story.
603
00:29:16,923 --> 00:29:18,757
It detailed compelling
evidence which
604
00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,893
suggested the murders
of the eight women
605
00:29:20,993 --> 00:29:24,496
were the work of one killer.
606
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:27,066
10 days later, the
Ohio Attorney General
607
00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,201
and the Buckeye State
Sheriff's Association
608
00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:31,570
formed a special task force.
609
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,473
They established a
24-hour, toll-free hotline
610
00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:39,378
as part of an unprecedented
Statewide investigation.
611
00:29:39,478 --> 00:29:44,016
LEE: We were finding that what
was happening in one county
612
00:29:44,116 --> 00:29:46,986
was not necessarily being
told to another county.
613
00:29:47,086 --> 00:29:50,122
And a clue in one county
that may have meant nothing
614
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:52,658
may have meant a great deal
in just the adjacent county.
615
00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:56,863
ROBERT STACK: What
maybe the most
616
00:29:56,963 --> 00:30:02,034
significant clue in this case
is also the most perplexing.
617
00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,403
MICHAEL: Killers tend to
dump in places that they
618
00:30:04,503 --> 00:30:05,804
feel comfortable with.
619
00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:07,006
That's why you'll
find a grouping
620
00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:09,208
of bodies in a river or such.
621
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,210
This killer scatters
these bodies,
622
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:12,178
and that's the big question.
623
00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:13,946
Why?
624
00:30:14,046 --> 00:30:16,682
There have been great
speculation among the officers
625
00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:19,919
themselves as do we really have
an intelligent killer out there
626
00:30:20,019 --> 00:30:21,988
who knows enough
about law enforcement
627
00:30:22,088 --> 00:30:26,758
to have dumped the bodies in
these different jurisdictions?
628
00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:29,395
There's even been speculation
that the killer could
629
00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:31,530
be a security guard or
even a former police
630
00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:33,799
officer who knows
enough about police
631
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,868
investigative
techniques to do that.
632
00:30:43,109 --> 00:30:44,944
ROBERT STACK: Michael
Berens is convinced
633
00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:48,447
that one killer is responsible
for the eight murders.
634
00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:50,616
He is equally convinced
that the victims were
635
00:30:50,716 --> 00:30:53,352
all doomed by their occupation.
636
00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:55,221
MICHAEL: I think the
killer, no doubt,
637
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:58,257
picked prostitutes because
he knows that it does affect
638
00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:00,526
the quality of investigation.
639
00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:02,328
Prostitutes aren't
going to be pursued
640
00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,464
as aggressively as if it was a
child or a suburban housewife.
641
00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:07,399
That's a fact of
life, and I think
642
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:10,169
everyone would agree to that.
643
00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:13,739
I think that the public
has compassion for anybody
644
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,174
who is innocently murdered.
645
00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:17,476
No matter what their profession,
no matter how they live
646
00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:20,212
their life, when
someone's life is
647
00:31:20,312 --> 00:31:23,082
snuffed out, for
absolutely no reason,
648
00:31:23,182 --> 00:31:24,150
I think people get angry.
649
00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:29,555
The last known
victim in Ohio was
650
00:31:29,655 --> 00:31:32,324
discovered in November of 1990.
651
00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:34,026
However, authorities have
been stunned to learn
652
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:37,229
of as many as 150 other
homicides nationwide
653
00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:39,798
that fit the same basic pattern.
654
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,833
Recently, truck drivers
have been arrested in three
655
00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,036
separate murder investigations.
656
00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:46,705
In each case, the
victims were prostitutes,
657
00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:48,640
but none of these suspects
has been connected
658
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,875
to any of the Ohio murders.
659
00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:54,746
At least two of the
victims were last
660
00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:58,150
seen getting into a black or
dark blue Peterbilt tractor,
661
00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:01,087
possibly pulling a
refrigerated trailer.
662
00:32:01,187 --> 00:32:06,058
The driver may use a CB handles
Dr. No, Stargazer, or Dragon.
663
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,629
LEE: I'd like to be
able to say that we
664
00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:13,332
know now whether it's one
person and whether it's
665
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,466
a serial murderer.
666
00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,635
The truth is that we don't.
667
00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:19,271
And while that is certainly
a plausible theory,
668
00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:20,706
at this point, it's
nothing more than that.
669
00:32:29,248 --> 00:32:30,549
ROBERT STACK: Stay tuned.
670
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:33,285
An elegant mansion in New
Jersey is said to be haunted
671
00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:34,686
by the ghost of its builder.
672
00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:48,067
Do ghosts really exist?
673
00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:50,469
The fact is that
25% of all Americans
674
00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:53,072
today believe they do.
675
00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,741
Perhaps ghosts are no more than
their own need for something
676
00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,776
beyond the world we
can touch and feel
677
00:32:57,876 --> 00:33:00,379
and logically comprehend.
678
00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,382
Or perhaps as one family
in New Jersey believes,
679
00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,650
they're really out there.
680
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:11,657
In 1923, a man named
Bill Beaty had a dream.
681
00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:16,162
He imagined a 17th century
Norman castle rising stone
682
00:33:16,262 --> 00:33:18,830
by stone on 150
acres of woodland
683
00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:21,533
in Basking Ridge, New Jersey.
684
00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:22,501
BILL: Yeah.
685
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:24,036
Everything Is coming
along just fine.
686
00:33:24,136 --> 00:33:26,605
I've just completed work on
the kitchen and the basement.
687
00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:27,906
ROBERT STACK: Bill
Beaty had the means
688
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,042
to make his dream come true.
689
00:33:30,142 --> 00:33:32,444
As an advertising
executive in New York City,
690
00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,214
he had amassed a
sizable fortune.
691
00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:37,616
His wife, Sarah, was
wealthy in her own right.
692
00:33:37,716 --> 00:33:39,851
BILL: Don't do anything with the
window until the oak comes in.
693
00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,220
Well, when is the oak coming?
694
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,754
It's going to take
two or three days.
695
00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,223
This is the window
I was talking about.
696
00:33:44,323 --> 00:33:45,991
ROBERT STACK: The Beatys
envisioned their castle
697
00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:49,261
as the center of an artist's
colony surrounded by bungalows
698
00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:50,896
fronting a man-made lake.
699
00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,764
How far up are we going to go?
700
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,666
We're going to
go up another foot.
701
00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:55,667
And you're can have 5.
702
00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:57,069
You're going to have 11 by 5.
703
00:33:57,169 --> 00:34:00,506
ROBERT STACK: In 1930, before
construction was complete,
704
00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:03,842
the Beatys moved into the
castle with their four children,
705
00:34:03,942 --> 00:34:07,146
but Bill Beaty would never see
the completion of his dream.
706
00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:12,984
Just one year later, he
died at the age of 45,
707
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:15,053
a victim of influenza.
708
00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:18,090
His castle would not be
finished for another five years.
709
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,362
Sarah Beaty never remarried.
710
00:34:23,462 --> 00:34:25,831
She raised all four
children in the castle
711
00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:31,670
and lived there until 1941.
712
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:35,507
From 1945 to 1971, the
castle was occupied
713
00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:37,676
by two different boys schools.
714
00:34:37,776 --> 00:34:40,246
From the start,
students and teachers
715
00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:44,049
reported eerie organ music
echoing through the corridors.
716
00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,985
Oddly, the school
owned no pipe organ.
717
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,988
However, the long, dead
Bill Beaty had owned one.
718
00:34:53,392 --> 00:34:55,026
Was it possible that
Bill Beaty loved
719
00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:57,095
his castle so much
that he refused
720
00:34:57,196 --> 00:34:59,598
to leave, even in death?
721
00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:02,901
Old timers remember that Sarah
Beaty often held seances trying
722
00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:05,003
to communicate with Bill.
723
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,773
When the second boys school
moved out of the castle,
724
00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:10,809
many of the faculty and
students remained convinced
725
00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,311
the premises were haunted.
726
00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:19,651
In 1972, Don and Carol
Burlingame bought the castle
727
00:35:19,751 --> 00:35:21,553
and began to remodel.
728
00:35:21,653 --> 00:35:25,257
They would soon learn about the
ghost in residence first hand.
729
00:35:25,357 --> 00:35:28,026
DONALD: Carol was
really the first one
730
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,229
to feel some sort
of presence, and she
731
00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:33,965
had a friend that was sort of
an amateur parapsychologist.
732
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,168
And we brought her in,
and she said, well, there
733
00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:38,103
definitely is a presence here.
734
00:35:38,204 --> 00:35:42,174
He is definitely
friendly, and he's male.
735
00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:45,977
And Carol said, well, maybe we
should try to get rid of him.
736
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:49,848
Shouldn't we have a seance?
And she said, no.
737
00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:51,650
You better leave things
exactly the way they are.
738
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:52,551
He's friendly.
739
00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,152
He's happy.
740
00:35:54,253 --> 00:35:57,356
Let it go at that.
741
00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:58,924
ROBERT STACK: After
the Burlingames
742
00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:02,127
moved in hammering noise
resounded through the hallways,
743
00:36:02,228 --> 00:36:04,696
and disembodied footsteps
trod the stairs.
744
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,437
Before long, the ghost
made his presence known
745
00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:13,171
in other more high-tech ways.
746
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:20,879
DONALD: What's going on?
747
00:36:20,979 --> 00:36:22,581
CAROL: I don't know.
748
00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,483
Let me see if I can fix it.
749
00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:26,485
You'd just get
into a movie, just
750
00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:29,120
the really interesting
part and all of a sudden
751
00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,089
the station would change.
752
00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,460
It would go from two to
three to four to five,
753
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,196
and it happened
more than one time.
754
00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:40,532
I knew there was
a presence here,
755
00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:43,902
but what I couldn't figure
out was why was he here?
756
00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:45,371
Who was he?
757
00:36:45,471 --> 00:36:48,073
When was he going to
leave, if in fact,
758
00:36:48,173 --> 00:36:49,207
was he ever going to leave?
759
00:36:53,011 --> 00:36:55,180
It was something I
couldn't figure out.
760
00:36:55,281 --> 00:36:59,318
The Burlingames began to delve
into the history of the castle.
761
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:03,622
Soon Eugene Melville, who is
now 78 years old, turned up.
762
00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:07,659
He had worked for Sarah
Beaty from 1933 to 1937
763
00:37:07,759 --> 00:37:11,963
and had his own remarkable
tale of countering the ghost.
764
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:14,199
EUGENE: I said to them
what I seen there,
765
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,370
and they said they sensed
something themselves,
766
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:20,339
but they never seen him.
767
00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:23,609
But I felt him there a lot.
768
00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:25,811
But I only seen him that once.
769
00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:28,780
I can truthfully say that
was the only time I ever
770
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,749
laid eyes on him was that once.
771
00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,351
It doesn't seem to be
under here, Mrs. B.
772
00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,752
Why don't you look--
773
00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:38,189
ROBERT STACK: It was 1934, three
years after Bill Beaty's death.
774
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,191
Eugene Melville was
helping Sarah search
775
00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:43,629
for a bracelet which had been
lost during a family gathering.
776
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,738
It's Bill, my husband.
777
00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:55,674
But he's dead, Mrs. B.
778
00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:59,110
But it was a figure of
a man standing there.
779
00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:03,114
It didn't stay long for me
to examine it very good.
780
00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:05,517
It was gone just like that.
781
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:06,785
It was scary.
782
00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:08,954
I don't know about this.
783
00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,390
It frighten the
daylights out of me.
784
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:13,359
And I never seen him again.
785
00:38:13,459 --> 00:38:14,926
I just never wanted
to go on that balcony.
786
00:38:15,026 --> 00:38:16,595
I never went in there again.
787
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:18,063
It bothered me.
788
00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:21,967
I passed by it, but to get
me in there, to stand there,
789
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:23,335
oh, forget it.
790
00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:26,405
I wouldn't go in there.
791
00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,340
ROBERT STACK: Don
and Carol Burlingame
792
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,542
finally understood that
they shared their home
793
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,878
with a ghost of Bill Beaty.
794
00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:34,713
They believed that
on one occasion
795
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:37,583
Bill demonstrated how much
she cared about the castle.
796
00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:40,318
DONALD: We decided we were going
to go off for a little ride.
797
00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:42,688
And Carol was sort
of a fresh air fiend.
798
00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:45,657
So she had all the windows
open in the servants wing
799
00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:46,858
where we were living.
800
00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,360
Then Don said, you better
close all the windows.
801
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:50,195
It was supposed to rain.
I said, no, it's not going rain.
802
00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:51,096
Don't worry about it.
803
00:38:51,196 --> 00:38:52,330
I'm leaving them all open.
804
00:38:52,431 --> 00:38:55,934
So I left them open, we
went out, and it rained.
805
00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,403
[inaudible]
806
00:38:57,503 --> 00:38:58,370
All right.
807
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:59,337
I'll get upstairs.
808
00:39:07,212 --> 00:39:09,314
We came home, and all
of the casement windows,
809
00:39:09,415 --> 00:39:12,984
which opened from the inside
and open to the inside,
810
00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:14,520
were all closed and latched.
811
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:15,854
How wet did it get?
812
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,055
It didn't.
813
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,124
There's no water on the
floor, everything's fine,
814
00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:20,025
and the windows are closed.
815
00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:21,259
Well, how is that possible?
816
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,394
I don't know.
817
00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:23,995
So there wasn't a drop
of rain in the house.
818
00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:25,897
So our only conclusion
was, because there's
819
00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:28,734
no other way for them
to have been closed,
820
00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:30,168
is that Bill helped us out.
821
00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:32,103
When he saw the rain coming,
he closed all the windows
822
00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:35,607
and gave us a hand.
823
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,676
ROBERT STACK: From
that day on, Bill
824
00:39:37,776 --> 00:39:39,778
Beaty's ghost was
a constant presence
825
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,848
in the Burlingames' lives.
826
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:46,618
CAROL: Bill and I
have an agreement.
827
00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:47,986
I chatted with him one day.
828
00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,722
Of course, I didn't see him,
but I chatted with him anyhow.
829
00:39:50,822 --> 00:39:55,594
And I said, Bill, you can stay
here for as long as you want.
830
00:39:55,694 --> 00:39:57,195
I enjoy having you around.
831
00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:59,297
You don't bother me.
832
00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:03,101
Just don't ever let me see
you because if I do see you,
833
00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:05,671
I'll probably wind up in
a padded cell somewhere.
834
00:40:05,771 --> 00:40:09,508
So you're welcome to stay
just don't materialize.
835
00:40:09,608 --> 00:40:10,408
And he never has.
836
00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:17,048
We've had several experiences
in the house, one of which
837
00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:19,485
was I have a habit of
leaving the bread out
838
00:40:19,585 --> 00:40:21,119
because it's handy.
839
00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:24,523
And I'd leave it
out somewhere and
840
00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:28,827
the next thing I'd turn around
it would be on the floor.
841
00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,295
I was alone in the kitchen.
842
00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:32,964
The bread was on the counter.
843
00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:36,134
There was no way that it could
have fallen off by itself.
844
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:40,572
And when it did
fall off or fly off,
845
00:40:40,672 --> 00:40:42,007
it went a considerable distance.
846
00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,543
So I know that someone
had to have moved it.
847
00:40:47,513 --> 00:40:49,981
There was no one else there
with me at all, no animals,
848
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:52,984
Don wasn't around,
and there was no way
849
00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:54,853
the bread could have
gone off the counter
850
00:40:54,953 --> 00:40:56,755
because it was set square.
851
00:40:56,855 --> 00:40:58,490
OK, Bill, that's enough.
852
00:40:58,590 --> 00:40:59,858
Knock it off.
853
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:03,161
And that led me to believe that
Bill had to be there saying,
854
00:41:03,261 --> 00:41:06,097
hi, I'm here.
855
00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:08,299
There was just no way that
that break could have fallen
856
00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:09,434
off the counter by itself.
857
00:41:12,871 --> 00:41:15,473
ROBERT STACK: In
1986, the Burlingames
858
00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:18,910
invited Dr. Michaeleen Maher,
a noted parapsychologist
859
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:20,779
to visit the castle.
860
00:41:20,879 --> 00:41:24,049
Maher, along with an assistant,
conducted a series of tests
861
00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:26,317
for paranormal activity.
862
00:41:26,417 --> 00:41:28,419
DR. MAHER: Our physical
instruments were not
863
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,824
able to detect anything unusual,
but in this particular case,
864
00:41:32,924 --> 00:41:36,094
the sheer volume
of the reports adds
865
00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:38,096
to the credibility of the case.
866
00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:40,699
People have experienced
similar phenomena
867
00:41:40,799 --> 00:41:42,934
when living at the
castle, even though these
868
00:41:43,034 --> 00:41:46,371
are people who may never
have spoken to each other.
869
00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:49,007
One of our witnesses
in this case,
870
00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:52,177
a particularly credible
witness, in fact,
871
00:41:52,277 --> 00:41:54,813
a professional person
of some stature,
872
00:41:54,913 --> 00:41:59,050
reported seeing in the
driveway in front of the castle
873
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:04,189
a person who dissipated
right in front of his eyes.
874
00:42:04,289 --> 00:42:05,791
Can I help you?
875
00:42:05,891 --> 00:42:07,292
Who are you?
876
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:17,235
DR. MAHER: I think the big news
here is that human persons can
877
00:42:17,335 --> 00:42:21,740
act as sensors, and when
we quantitatively evaluate
878
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,178
their responses, we find that
we cannot dismiss this evidence
879
00:42:27,278 --> 00:42:28,914
as caused by coincidence.
880
00:42:29,014 --> 00:42:31,617
Well, the steer treads are
going up on that second floor.
881
00:42:31,717 --> 00:42:32,517
OK.
Come on.
882
00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:33,585
You're all right.
883
00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:34,786
CAROL: The key to
existing with the ghost
884
00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:38,356
is if you can accept
it, you can enjoy it.
885
00:42:38,456 --> 00:42:40,892
And when things happen,
you just write them off
886
00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:42,460
as, oh, it must
be the ghost or it
887
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,796
must be Bill if you
happened to know who it is,
888
00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:47,198
as is in our case, we do.
889
00:42:47,298 --> 00:42:49,701
And you can have fun with it.
890
00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:53,639
I firmly believe he will
never leave the castle.
891
00:42:53,739 --> 00:42:58,309
The love of the thing maybe
got the better of his soul.
892
00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:02,547
And I think that's thing
got such power is the soul.
893
00:43:02,648 --> 00:43:05,450
It's eternal.
894
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:07,819
ROBERT STACK: It's been said
that the spirits of those who
895
00:43:07,919 --> 00:43:09,955
die with unfinished
business are destined
896
00:43:10,055 --> 00:43:12,157
to wander for eternity.
897
00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:15,426
This would seem to be
the case with Bill Beaty.
898
00:43:15,526 --> 00:43:18,630
In 1991, after nearly two
decades in the castle,
899
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:21,099
the Burlingames moved away.
900
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:25,503
As far as they know, the ghost
of Bill Beaty stayed behind.
901
00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:28,774
The Burlingames hope that
when the castle is next sold,
902
00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,508
his new owners will
enjoy the ghost's
903
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:32,911
presence as much as they did.
904
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,529
Join me next time for
an all new edition
905
00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:52,497
of "Unsolved Mysteries."
906
00:43:52,597 --> 00:43:55,566
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