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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,172 --> 00:00:07,408 NARRATOR: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,410 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,379 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,479 --> 00:00:13,013 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,316 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:20,854 --> 00:00:22,990 ROBERT STACK: In 1987, Wytheville, 7 00:00:23,091 --> 00:00:25,526 Virginia was deluged by an unprecedented wave 8 00:00:25,626 --> 00:00:27,195 of UFO sightings. 9 00:00:27,295 --> 00:00:30,998 Our newsman, Danny Gordon, the man at the center of the storm, 10 00:00:31,099 --> 00:00:33,867 the sightings began a series of threatening phone calls 11 00:00:33,967 --> 00:00:36,104 and break-ins, which made him regret that he ever 12 00:00:36,204 --> 00:00:39,640 went public with the story. 13 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:41,409 When a newspaper reporter in Ohio 14 00:00:41,509 --> 00:00:44,378 began researching several unconnected murders, 15 00:00:44,478 --> 00:00:47,047 he had no idea that his investigation would take him 16 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:49,617 into a dark and dangerous subculture 17 00:00:49,717 --> 00:00:53,987 and put him on the trail of a possible serial killer. 18 00:00:54,088 --> 00:00:57,658 70 Years ago, a man named Bill Beaty had a vision. 19 00:00:57,758 --> 00:00:59,760 He would build a magnificent castle in the rolling 20 00:00:59,860 --> 00:01:01,529 hills of New Jersey. 21 00:01:01,629 --> 00:01:04,165 Today many people believe they have seen his ghost 22 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:06,867 roaming the grounds, unable and unwilling 23 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:09,537 to leave his masterpiece. 24 00:01:09,637 --> 00:01:13,241 Join me for another edition of "Unsolved Mysteries." 25 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:04,057 During the past five years, "Unsolved Mysteries" 26 00:02:04,158 --> 00:02:05,626 has broadcast a number of stories 27 00:02:05,726 --> 00:02:08,596 dealing with unidentified flying objects. 28 00:02:08,696 --> 00:02:10,164 Viewed in retrospect, they chronicle 29 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:13,834 the history of UFO sightings in America and Europe. 30 00:02:13,934 --> 00:02:17,405 Today most of us take tales of UFO sightings for granted. 31 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:20,208 Yet the phenomenon was virtually unheard of until just 32 00:02:20,308 --> 00:02:21,409 after World War II. 33 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,682 1947. 34 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:31,185 The genesis of UFO sightings unfolded 35 00:02:31,285 --> 00:02:36,023 in the New Mexico desert near Roswell Army Airbase. 36 00:02:36,123 --> 00:02:39,092 Military investigators were called in to examine the debris 37 00:02:39,193 --> 00:02:40,027 of an unknown aircraft. 38 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:48,369 The incident was thoroughly documented and even publicized. 39 00:02:48,469 --> 00:02:51,639 Incredibly, a few eyewitnesses claimed that alien life 40 00:02:51,739 --> 00:02:54,308 forms were also recovered. 41 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:57,245 Ultimately, the authorities denied the entire affair 42 00:02:57,345 --> 00:02:59,480 and insisted the UFO was nothing more 43 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:00,781 than a downed weather balloon. 44 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:07,087 18 Years later in 1965, residents 45 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:09,189 of a small Pennsylvania village observed 46 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:14,395 a fiery object streaked through the sky then fall to Earth. 47 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:17,097 Many witnesses saw an Air Force radar squadron 48 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,199 hauling the object away. 49 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:21,769 The military dismissed the sighting as a meteorite 50 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:26,807 and insisted that nothing was ever recovered. 51 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:29,777 Over the next 25 years, reports of close encounters 52 00:03:29,877 --> 00:03:33,381 proliferated, many of them on or near military bases. 53 00:03:37,751 --> 00:03:41,489 One of the most remarkable occurred on December 26, 1980 54 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:44,258 at Bentwaters, an American air base in England. 55 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:50,230 There's definitely something up there. 56 00:04:03,344 --> 00:04:06,680 It's coming down from an object to the ground near our feet. 57 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:08,449 ROBERT STACK: According to eyewitnesses, 58 00:04:08,549 --> 00:04:10,784 the sightings continued in various forms 59 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:11,819 until December 28. 60 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:18,526 The next day a continental way in Texas, 61 00:04:18,626 --> 00:04:20,160 a woman named Betty Cash suffered 62 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,262 severe radiation burns. 63 00:04:22,363 --> 00:04:24,798 She claims she had been exposed to the energy field 64 00:04:24,898 --> 00:04:26,500 of a bizarre flying object. 65 00:04:34,007 --> 00:04:37,445 Most recently, between 1989 and 1991, 66 00:04:37,545 --> 00:04:40,548 thousands of people in Belgium reported a literal invasion 67 00:04:40,648 --> 00:04:41,982 of strange, unearthly crafts. 68 00:04:47,154 --> 00:04:51,525 Amazingly, the Belgian air force is able to capture on radar 69 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:54,928 a swift and erratic movements of an unidentified craft which 70 00:04:55,028 --> 00:04:56,664 defined the laws of known physics. 71 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:07,841 For those of us who have never encountered a UFO, 72 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:11,111 reports of such events often sound far fetched. 73 00:05:11,211 --> 00:05:12,646 In fact, some eyewitnesses who go 74 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:16,149 public risk becoming the object of ridicule and scorn. 75 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:18,386 Others are simply ignored. 76 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,854 In either case, an acknowledged UFO sighting 77 00:05:20,954 --> 00:05:23,824 can profoundly change a person's life in ways 78 00:05:23,924 --> 00:05:26,226 that he or she never imagined possible. 79 00:05:31,231 --> 00:05:34,468 Wytheville, Virginia, population 8,000, 80 00:05:34,568 --> 00:05:39,072 is nestled in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. 81 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,677 Country music station WYVE calls itself the voice of Wytheville. 82 00:05:46,647 --> 00:05:48,516 On most days, life here is peaceful, 83 00:05:48,616 --> 00:05:52,453 unpretentious, and uneventful, but that was about to change. 84 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:53,787 Good morning, Sheriff. 85 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:54,688 Danny Gordon. 86 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:56,757 ROBERT STACK: On October 7, 1987, 87 00:05:56,857 --> 00:05:59,660 radio reporter, Danny Gordon, checked in as usual 88 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,763 with a county sheriff and heard an unbelievable tale. 89 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:05,098 Over near Austinville? 90 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:06,434 Uh-huh. 91 00:06:06,534 --> 00:06:07,768 All right. 92 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:08,702 Got anything else? 93 00:06:13,941 --> 00:06:15,476 You're kidding me. 94 00:06:15,576 --> 00:06:17,244 ROBERT STACK: Three Wythe County sheriffs 95 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:19,580 deputies, all former military men, 96 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,182 claimed they had seen a UFO. 97 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:23,751 When was that? 98 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:25,018 SWITCHBOARD ASSISTANT: OK, Danny. 99 00:06:25,118 --> 00:06:27,488 You're on three, two, one. 100 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:29,122 Unidentified flying objects have 101 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:31,792 been sighted over Wythe County on Monday and Tuesday evenings. 102 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:33,126 The Wythe County Sheriff's Department 103 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:34,061 was notified by a number of-- 104 00:06:34,161 --> 00:06:35,395 DANNY: There was a filler piece who 105 00:06:35,496 --> 00:06:36,764 came on at the end of the news, which I usually relegate 106 00:06:36,864 --> 00:06:39,433 to something that may be an unusual, like we had one police 107 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:42,570 officer kill five chickens once with two shots, 108 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,372 and that was a story that ran as kind of a ha-ha piece. 109 00:06:45,473 --> 00:06:47,575 And this was another ha-ha piece and being 110 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:50,578 a very skeptical newsman, it was definitely 111 00:06:50,678 --> 00:06:53,614 not a lead part of my news. 112 00:06:53,714 --> 00:06:55,583 ROBERT STACK: Danny Gordon's fluff story 113 00:06:55,683 --> 00:06:58,619 sparked unprecedented listener reaction. 114 00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:01,989 Reports of UFO sightings poured into WYVE. 115 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:05,092 With the switchboard jammed, Gordon finally set up 116 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:07,227 a special call-in program for the evening 117 00:07:07,327 --> 00:07:09,597 of October 19, 1987. 118 00:07:09,697 --> 00:07:10,664 Hello. 119 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:11,965 This is Danny Gordon. You're on the air. 120 00:07:12,065 --> 00:07:13,366 Go ahead, please. 121 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:16,236 ROBERT STACK: What follows is based on verbatim transcripts 122 00:07:16,336 --> 00:07:18,939 of the actual telephone calls. 123 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:21,308 WOMAN (ON PHONE): It was very, very huge. 124 00:07:21,408 --> 00:07:23,811 It was long, and it didn't have any sound. 125 00:07:23,911 --> 00:07:26,379 It had a big light on the front and one in the center and one 126 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,515 in the back. 127 00:07:27,615 --> 00:07:30,083 MAN (ON PHONE): Well, it kind of looks something 128 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:31,952 about like an egg shape to me. 129 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:33,386 WOMAN (ON PHONE): What we could see was red, 130 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:35,789 green, and white, sort of flashing lights. 131 00:07:35,889 --> 00:07:40,460 We saw a plane go by with red flashing lights. 132 00:07:40,561 --> 00:07:42,362 We knew it wasn't a jet of any sort. 133 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:43,897 OK. Well, I appreciate that. 134 00:07:43,997 --> 00:07:44,865 Thanks a lot. 135 00:07:44,965 --> 00:07:47,234 For being a brass-tacks journalist, 136 00:07:47,334 --> 00:07:50,971 I always believe there is a plausible, logical explanation. 137 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:55,408 And I felt at that time that it was military of some nature 138 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:57,377 and that we would find the reason 139 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:00,480 in a short period of time. 140 00:08:00,581 --> 00:08:01,782 ROBERT STACK: Danny Gordon thought 141 00:08:01,882 --> 00:08:04,618 the UFOs are most likely experimental aircraft 142 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:08,021 being tested out of Virginia's Langley Air Force Base. 143 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:10,057 But he was repeatedly told by the military 144 00:08:10,157 --> 00:08:13,260 that there was no testing going on. 145 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,195 As more and more residents had sightings, 146 00:08:15,295 --> 00:08:19,933 the military did come up with one explanation. 147 00:08:20,033 --> 00:08:23,804 MARY: Everybody had been telling us that what people were seeing 148 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:26,707 were planes refueling. 149 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:30,277 And so I said, well, I didn't know that's how they did that. 150 00:08:30,377 --> 00:08:31,712 And then I thought, well, why are they 151 00:08:31,812 --> 00:08:34,615 do that down over my house? 152 00:08:34,715 --> 00:08:38,018 Isn't this something they should be doing 153 00:08:38,118 --> 00:08:40,520 away from populated areas? 154 00:08:40,621 --> 00:08:43,957 I call the Pentagon and talked to the Air Force general 155 00:08:44,057 --> 00:08:47,661 there who told me if they are refueling under 13,000 feet, 156 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:50,197 then somebody's butt is in a sling. 157 00:08:50,297 --> 00:08:51,799 And to this day, we don't know if they 158 00:08:51,899 --> 00:08:53,801 were refueling at 5,000 feet. 159 00:08:53,901 --> 00:08:58,338 But at the same time, I have asked if it is military, 160 00:08:58,438 --> 00:09:00,641 then I'll back off the story and leave it alone if you 161 00:09:00,741 --> 00:09:02,175 tell me because I'm a patriot. 162 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:05,112 And each time I'm told it's not us, we're not doing it, 163 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:08,582 and we haven't been doing it. 164 00:09:08,682 --> 00:09:11,218 ROBERT STACK: On October 21, just two weeks 165 00:09:11,318 --> 00:09:14,788 after the original report, Danny Gordon and a friend, Roger 166 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:17,357 Hall, drove to the area south of Wytheville 167 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:19,793 where most of the sightings had occurred. 168 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:22,630 They brought along a 35-millimeter still camera 169 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:25,633 as well as a video camera. 170 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:28,736 We were headed home after two hours of fruitless 171 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:30,804 searching about a quarter till 9:00 172 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,573 on Route 21 South coming into Wytheville, 173 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,609 and just happened to look to my left 174 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:41,248 and saw a very unusual object coming across the horizon. 175 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:42,482 What's that? 176 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:43,450 What? 177 00:09:43,550 --> 00:09:44,351 Over there. 178 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:46,219 Some lights or something. 179 00:09:46,319 --> 00:09:47,587 I'm going to pull over. 180 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:59,166 I pulled off to the side of the road in a hurry, jumped out. 181 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:00,500 He got out on the right side. 182 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,136 And as he got out, I noticed the craft was coming at me. 183 00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:04,571 It was very large. 184 00:10:04,672 --> 00:10:08,041 It had a dome shape to the top of it and no wings 185 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:09,910 and had what appeared to be a strobe 186 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:13,647 putting out multi-colored lights on the right side of the craft. 187 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:15,649 What the hell is that? 188 00:10:15,749 --> 00:10:17,550 I don't know. 189 00:10:17,651 --> 00:10:21,288 It was probably less than 1,000 feet away 190 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:24,624 and 1,000 feet high at the maximum. 191 00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:27,327 We guessed it would be in at least two 192 00:10:27,427 --> 00:10:30,563 football fields in diameter. 193 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:33,600 You can see three huge, looked like picture 194 00:10:33,701 --> 00:10:36,603 windows in the back of it that were lit from the inside out. 195 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:44,845 DANNY: As I watched the sky from the left, came a red ball. 196 00:10:44,945 --> 00:10:48,381 As a big mother ship went into a small skiff of clouds, 197 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,150 the red ball docked with the craft. 198 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:55,723 It was like you were watching a computer game 199 00:10:55,823 --> 00:10:57,858 and watching these things develop on the video screen. 200 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:04,297 Did you get a picture of that? 201 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:05,198 No. 202 00:11:05,298 --> 00:11:06,133 Didn't you? 203 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:09,236 I left the camera on the trunk. 204 00:11:09,336 --> 00:11:10,403 Where's your camera? 205 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:11,304 In the car. 206 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:13,040 I was driving. 207 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:15,375 Oh. 208 00:11:15,475 --> 00:11:18,378 DANNY: We looked at each other and realized no pictures. 209 00:11:18,478 --> 00:11:20,948 The camera was not in my hand, the camera was not in his hand, 210 00:11:21,048 --> 00:11:23,016 and we both knew we blew it. 211 00:11:23,116 --> 00:11:26,954 The only thing I can say is we were just awe struck by it 212 00:11:27,054 --> 00:11:29,422 or just dumb, whichever one. 213 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,292 I'm not sure which, but we sure didn't get any pictures of it. 214 00:11:35,763 --> 00:11:37,798 ROBERT STACK: The next night, Gordon and Hall 215 00:11:37,898 --> 00:11:39,166 would go out again. 216 00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:41,802 This time they would take photographs. 217 00:11:41,902 --> 00:11:43,804 With a film still undeveloped, a press 218 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:46,273 conference was called for the following day, 219 00:11:46,373 --> 00:11:49,576 October 23, 1987. 220 00:11:49,676 --> 00:11:51,478 DANNY: The night before the press conference, 221 00:11:51,578 --> 00:11:54,147 I received a phone call from somebody who refused 222 00:11:54,247 --> 00:11:55,949 to identify himself, and they said 223 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:57,818 that I needed to be aware of the CIA 224 00:11:57,918 --> 00:11:59,820 and the federal government were very much interested 225 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,822 in the Wythe County UFOs. 226 00:12:01,922 --> 00:12:03,590 I started to wonder what I'd stepped into. 227 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:07,227 And my wife was urging me to back off, to leave it alone. 228 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:10,097 And I also was receiving some anonymous phone calls 229 00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:11,799 saying it's something you need to leave it 230 00:12:11,899 --> 00:12:14,134 alone because it's not your place to be 231 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:15,468 messing in defense matters. 232 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:24,711 Becky? 233 00:12:24,812 --> 00:12:26,646 ROBERT STACK: After the press conference, 234 00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:29,082 Gordon discovered that his house had been broken into. 235 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:34,988 Becky. 236 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:37,057 ROBERT STACK: Oddly, nothing was stolen, 237 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:38,758 and Gordon is convinced it's someone was 238 00:12:38,859 --> 00:12:40,627 looking for the photographs. 239 00:12:40,727 --> 00:12:43,696 When developed, the pictures revealed only vague streaks 240 00:12:43,797 --> 00:12:44,697 of light in the sky. 241 00:12:48,735 --> 00:12:51,238 But Danny Gordon would soon have another opportunity 242 00:12:51,338 --> 00:12:54,507 to photograph the UFOs. 243 00:12:54,607 --> 00:12:56,309 What about the tree? 244 00:12:56,409 --> 00:12:59,079 ROBERT STACK: Six weeks later on December 2, 245 00:12:59,179 --> 00:13:00,647 Danny, his wife, and daughter were 246 00:13:00,747 --> 00:13:02,883 leaving the local mall when they encountered 247 00:13:02,983 --> 00:13:06,686 some unexpected visitors. 248 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:09,189 [shouting] 249 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,690 BECKY: Honey, what is that? 250 00:13:18,731 --> 00:13:22,335 DANNY: We looked very quickly and saw what I thought 251 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:24,537 was one large object, which later appeared 252 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,640 to be four flying disk shapes. 253 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:29,509 As soon as the objects were photographed, 254 00:13:29,609 --> 00:13:30,510 they disappeared from view. 255 00:13:35,382 --> 00:13:37,517 When the pictures came out, they had a lot of grain, 256 00:13:37,617 --> 00:13:40,720 but they showed definite four shapes of objects in the sky. 257 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:43,756 But the most impressive point in the four photographs, 258 00:13:43,857 --> 00:13:48,661 the objects appear to change shape or light formations 259 00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:50,297 within one click of the camera. 260 00:13:50,397 --> 00:13:54,601 They go from a teardrop shape to a round ball shape, 261 00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:57,871 then they go to a flying-saucer like disk shape, 262 00:13:57,971 --> 00:14:02,475 and then they go to the egg shape as they go out of sight. 263 00:14:02,575 --> 00:14:04,044 ROBERT STACK: The people of Wytheville 264 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:05,512 knew that something extraordinary 265 00:14:05,612 --> 00:14:07,347 was happening in their town. 266 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:09,149 By the end of December, the sightings 267 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:12,352 numbered well over 1,500. 268 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:15,788 One of the first occurred here, near Interstate 81, 269 00:14:15,889 --> 00:14:18,258 a mile from downtown Wytheville. 270 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:20,127 Eyewitnesses said the craft resembled 271 00:14:20,227 --> 00:14:22,829 a brilliantly-lit, whirling carousel. 272 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:26,033 Immediately, other sightings cropped up. 273 00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:28,868 I'm not mistaken about what we saw, absolutely not. 274 00:14:28,969 --> 00:14:31,171 Because we'd never seen this before. 275 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:34,241 We didn't have any reason to make any stories up. 276 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:35,642 I kept a journal what I saw. 277 00:14:35,742 --> 00:14:38,411 ROBERT STACK: Patricia Aker had 10 sightings, all of them here, 278 00:14:38,511 --> 00:14:40,580 eight miles north of Wytheville. 279 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,017 PATRICIA: The best way I can describe them is that they look 280 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:46,586 like a cross between a helicopter and an airplane 281 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:49,689 with no noise or very little noise. 282 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:53,493 And to be so large, I don't know how they stayed up. 283 00:14:53,593 --> 00:14:57,730 I'd say that the educated psychologists 284 00:14:57,830 --> 00:15:02,402 and psychiatrists have debunked what we've seen and everything. 285 00:15:02,502 --> 00:15:03,503 They've never been here. 286 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:05,338 They've never seen it. 287 00:15:05,438 --> 00:15:08,708 I was skeptic until I started seeing this stuff. 288 00:15:08,808 --> 00:15:12,679 ROBERT STACK: Rita Marie Vaught saw a UFO behind this ridge, 289 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:14,447 half a mile from her house. 290 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:17,084 RITA: I've seen the circular object 291 00:15:17,184 --> 00:15:18,952 in the sky, all different colors that 292 00:15:19,052 --> 00:15:20,753 kept going around and around. 293 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:23,423 It would be sort of looking like a carousel, 294 00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:25,458 but it didn't scare me. 295 00:15:25,558 --> 00:15:28,828 None of this has scared me. 296 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:31,264 Until I see the little green men walking around, 297 00:15:31,364 --> 00:15:33,066 I won't be scared. 298 00:15:33,166 --> 00:15:35,535 You just had this feeling of something really, 299 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:40,773 really big just move and just drifting over your head 300 00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:42,609 and no sound or anything. 301 00:15:42,709 --> 00:15:44,677 ROBERT STACK: Mary Jane Williamson's sightings 302 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:46,446 occurred directly above her house 303 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:48,048 in the center of Wytheville. 304 00:15:48,148 --> 00:15:50,183 MARY: It had all the white lights 305 00:15:50,283 --> 00:15:52,619 in the front, just a big, semicircle of white lights, 306 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,021 and it was just huge. 307 00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:57,957 I mean, it was just absolutely huge. 308 00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:03,396 But you couldn't actually see an outline or anything like that. 309 00:16:03,496 --> 00:16:05,798 I know it wasn't the planet Venus, 310 00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:08,468 and I know it was not atmospheric phenomena. 311 00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:15,908 These were some kind of craft moving over our house. 312 00:16:16,009 --> 00:16:17,877 Eventually I got around to calling the Pentagon 313 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,980 and talk with the spokesman for defense at the Pentagon, 314 00:16:21,081 --> 00:16:24,784 and he speaks for all the defense branches. 315 00:16:24,884 --> 00:16:29,356 And he told me, quote twice, "We do not deny UFOs exist. 316 00:16:29,456 --> 00:16:31,258 The government confirms they exist, 317 00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:33,560 but we deny they pose a threat to the populace 318 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:34,727 of Wythe County." 319 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:36,729 And my question was, how do you know this? 320 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:39,699 And he said, I can't tell you, but there is no threat to you. 321 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:42,402 So that's reason we're not sending convoys of aircraft 322 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,038 down there to protect Wythe County. 323 00:16:45,138 --> 00:16:48,175 ROBERT STACK: On March 19, 1988, Danny Gordon 324 00:16:48,275 --> 00:16:51,244 was packing for a broadcaster's conference in Virginia Beach 325 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:54,847 where he was to speak about his UFO coverage. 326 00:16:54,947 --> 00:16:56,949 DANNY: I received a phone call home 327 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:59,652 from a retired military intelligence officer. 328 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:01,020 And first he told me to make sure 329 00:17:01,121 --> 00:17:03,490 that I tape conversations so he could put the date 330 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:04,857 and everyone to be aware. 331 00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,526 And I said why do you want to tape this? 332 00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:09,096 And he said, I want your friends to know if something happens 333 00:17:09,196 --> 00:17:10,597 to you that I forewarned you. 334 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:11,731 Who's this? 335 00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:12,965 INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: What I'm telling you, 336 00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:15,001 Danny, is I've been pursuing this thing 337 00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:16,536 for many, many years. 338 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:21,040 Like I said, I saw my son dying from leukemia. 339 00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,110 He told me that because of his investigation 340 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:25,478 into the UFO field that they had hit his son 341 00:17:25,578 --> 00:17:27,347 and caused his son to die with some kind 342 00:17:27,447 --> 00:17:29,416 of virus connected to leukemia. 343 00:17:29,516 --> 00:17:30,817 Danny, who is it? 344 00:17:30,917 --> 00:17:32,152 It's nothing, honey. 345 00:17:32,252 --> 00:17:34,020 DANNY: He said that he had information 346 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,689 that the federal government was not very happy with my UFO 347 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:38,091 investigations. 348 00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:40,827 And they felt like I was too loud of a voice 349 00:17:40,927 --> 00:17:44,597 to quiet just by killing me, which made me very happy. 350 00:17:44,697 --> 00:17:47,534 And he said they want to quiet you in a different fashion. 351 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:48,801 INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: What I'm telling 352 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:51,838 you is they will try to hit you if they think it's 353 00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,307 practical for their purposes to keep you from further 354 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:58,010 investigating this thing, and it will most likely be done 355 00:17:58,111 --> 00:17:59,579 through skin-contact chemicals. 356 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:02,182 It could be something on the door knob or your car 357 00:18:02,282 --> 00:18:03,950 or on the steering wheel. 358 00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:06,586 They can also come up with something, 359 00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:08,788 do something to your children. 360 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:12,259 You know, it's one thing for someone to threaten myself. 361 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,660 When you threaten my family, you are 362 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,628 treading on very thin water. 363 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:19,299 So when I found out that he could be believed, 364 00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:23,370 just could be, it scared me, at the same time made me mad. 365 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,606 Because I had to try to protect my family, protect myself, 366 00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:29,742 and at the same time because I believe in free speech, 367 00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:32,679 I was refusing to allow this man to stop me from going 368 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:34,847 to Virginia Beach to talk. 369 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:36,449 Well, I'm going to Virginia Beach. 370 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:37,550 INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: [inaudible] 371 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:38,818 you think I'm some crack pot? 372 00:18:38,918 --> 00:18:40,387 No, I appreciate it. 373 00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:41,288 I appreciate that. 374 00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:45,725 Thank you for calling. 375 00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:47,427 What was that about? 376 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,529 Oh, nothing, honey. 377 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:52,465 Oddly enough, it was the same weekend there was a hepatitis 378 00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:54,534 epidemic in Virginia Beach. 379 00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:57,270 Had I come down with hepatitis, I would have believed 380 00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:59,539 and everyone would have believed they had gotten to me. 381 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:02,342 But I came back with no problems, 382 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:03,976 and the children were in good shape. 383 00:19:06,946 --> 00:19:08,348 ROBERT STACK: Less than one month 384 00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,783 after the disturbing phone call, Gordon had two 385 00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:12,018 surprise visitors at his home. 386 00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:13,386 My name is Ernest. This is my associate, Michael. 387 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:14,721 We're with "The Richmond Gazette." 388 00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:16,456 I'd like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind, 389 00:19:16,556 --> 00:19:17,957 about these recent UFO sightings I understand 390 00:19:18,057 --> 00:19:19,792 you're involved with. - Well, that would be fine. 391 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:21,194 OK, great. 392 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:23,996 ROBERT STACK: They remained for approximately 45 minutes, one 393 00:19:24,096 --> 00:19:26,633 interviewing Danny Gordon, the other roaming 394 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,134 through the house, snapping photographs. 395 00:19:28,235 --> 00:19:29,469 How did you personally get involved? 396 00:19:29,569 --> 00:19:30,603 DANNY: They had told me when they 397 00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:32,672 left they would send me a copy of the article 398 00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:34,207 so I could peruse it. 399 00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:36,776 And when I didn't even receive one, I called the newspaper, 400 00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:38,745 and they said, well, these two guys are not on our payroll. 401 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,079 They don't work for us. 402 00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,849 So who they were, I don't know, but they were in my house, 403 00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,485 saw my pictures, saw my negatives, talked to my family, 404 00:19:45,585 --> 00:19:48,087 took pictures, and then left, but they 405 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,589 were not with the newspaper. 406 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:51,358 I think we've got everything we need, Mr. Gordon. 407 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:52,859 Thank you very much for your time. 408 00:19:52,959 --> 00:19:53,726 Thank you. 409 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,141 ROBERT STACK: A few weeks later, Danny Gordon 410 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:12,645 sat down to organize and catalog his UFO photographs. 411 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:20,086 DANNY: When I got to the canister which had the UFO 412 00:20:20,186 --> 00:20:24,156 negatives, I quickly opened it up and found some UFO 413 00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:26,259 negatives, but the one negative with the shots from 414 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,195 the shopping mall was missing. 415 00:20:29,296 --> 00:20:31,197 I felt like maybe there was something in those photographs 416 00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:32,565 that I was not seeing. 417 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,602 So I took the photographs to some other people to look at. 418 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,304 We used magnifying glasses. 419 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:40,039 We measured angles trying to find out why these photographs 420 00:20:40,139 --> 00:20:41,374 were so important. 421 00:20:41,474 --> 00:20:43,743 And we've yet to discover why anyone would want to steal 422 00:20:43,843 --> 00:20:46,946 that one specific set of four in a series 423 00:20:47,046 --> 00:20:50,116 of photographs of the UFOs. 424 00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,584 ROBERT STACK: Danny Gordon had nearly 425 00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,286 reached the end of his rope. 426 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,021 His house had been broken into. 427 00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:57,324 He had received countless late-night phone calls, 428 00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,859 some of them threatening. 429 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:02,895 Bogus reporters had visited his home. 430 00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:06,065 Finally, his UFO negatives disappeared. 431 00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:12,339 Two months later, the stress caught up with Danny Gordon. 432 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:21,314 BECKY: Somebody help us, please. - What's going on? 433 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:22,449 BECKY: He just keels over. 434 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:23,483 He getting done with some work. 435 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:24,651 I think he's having a heart attack. 436 00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:25,518 Hang on, sir. What happened? 437 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:26,653 Not so well. 438 00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:27,987 ROBERT STACK: Doctors would later determined 439 00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:30,289 that the attack had been brought on, not by heart problems, 440 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:33,360 but by severe exhaustion. 441 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:35,261 Danny Gordon was cautioned that continued 442 00:21:35,362 --> 00:21:37,330 involvement with the UFO controversy 443 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,698 could jeopardize his health. 444 00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:45,905 DANNY: I, myself, had not had a sighting since December 1990, 445 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,841 but purposely, I don't go out and look because it 446 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:50,209 upset my life enough. 447 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:55,548 I would just as soon never see a UFO again in my lifetime. 448 00:21:55,648 --> 00:22:00,086 If I had my choice, I'd not report the UFO story again. 449 00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:01,821 It's just been too hard on my life 450 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,592 and created too many problems. 451 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:08,495 Don't look up, because once you look up 452 00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:10,630 and you tell somebody what you saw, 453 00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:11,931 your life is changed forever. 454 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:21,374 ROBERT STACK: In late 1987, Danny Gordon 455 00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:23,576 received an average of 500 telephone calls 456 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:25,745 about UFOs each month. 457 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:29,281 Today the calls have dwindled to approximately 50 per month. 458 00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:33,052 The UFO heyday in Wytheville has apparently drawn to a close. 459 00:22:33,152 --> 00:22:36,188 Danny Gordon's health and life are back to normal. 460 00:22:36,288 --> 00:22:38,991 But if history is any indicator, some time 461 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:43,162 soon in another small town someone else will look up 462 00:22:43,262 --> 00:22:45,765 and his or her life will never be the same. 463 00:22:48,835 --> 00:22:51,938 Next in Ohio, a reporter's curiosity 464 00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,874 leads to a statewide hunt for a possible serial killer. 465 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:11,491 On April 19, 1990, a partially nude body of a woman 466 00:23:11,591 --> 00:23:15,928 was found behind a truck stop at Licking County, Ohio. 467 00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:18,130 She had been beaten to death. 468 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,366 All of her jewelry and some articles of clothing 469 00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:21,333 were missing. 470 00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:23,736 What about the bruising on the eye? 471 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:26,138 ROBERT STACK: Despite an extensive investigation 472 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:29,909 by county sheriffs, the victim was never identified. 473 00:23:30,009 --> 00:23:33,480 No one was aware that her murder was not an isolated case. 474 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:38,918 Four years earlier the body of this woman, 475 00:23:39,018 --> 00:23:41,353 23-year-old Shirley Dean Taylor, was 476 00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:44,724 found behind a traffic barrier on Interstate 71 477 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:47,560 in nearby Medina County. 478 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:50,563 Taylor, a known prostitute, had also been beaten to death. 479 00:23:50,663 --> 00:23:54,400 Let's get her down to the county morgue. 480 00:23:54,501 --> 00:23:57,069 ROBERT STACK: As in the case of the Jane Doe, 481 00:23:57,169 --> 00:23:59,506 all jewelry and several pieces of clothing 482 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:00,907 had been removed from the body. 483 00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:10,550 No one would connect the nearly identical murders until 1990. 484 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:14,420 In November of that year, Michael Berens, a reporter 485 00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:16,322 for "The Columbus Dispatch," began 486 00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:18,858 preliminary research for a possible story 487 00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:21,160 on serial killers. 488 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,830 MICHAEL: I had remembered a statement that an FBI agent had 489 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:27,500 once said that prostitutes make the ideal serial killer 490 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,336 victim because they're transient and often their disappearances 491 00:24:30,436 --> 00:24:32,605 aren't reported immediately. 492 00:24:32,705 --> 00:24:34,406 So I started looking at prostitute deaths 493 00:24:34,507 --> 00:24:38,244 all cross Ohio primarily using newspaper stories as the way 494 00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:40,680 to track those deaths. 495 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:42,749 ROBERT STACK: Berens began to cross-reference 496 00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:44,951 unsolved murder cases in Ohio. 497 00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,820 A sinister pattern soon emerged. 498 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,956 Eight women in eight different countries 499 00:24:50,056 --> 00:24:52,525 had been beaten or strangled to death. 500 00:24:52,625 --> 00:24:55,528 Each was found alongside a major interstate. 501 00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:59,265 Each was a known or suspected prostitute. 502 00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:02,268 MICHAEL: All of these women who were killed in Ohio 503 00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:05,237 also worked at truck stops or were last believed to have been 504 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:06,505 working at a truck stop, and that 505 00:25:06,606 --> 00:25:08,608 was the third major factor that started 506 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:09,976 tying these deaths together. 507 00:25:15,882 --> 00:25:18,751 ROBERT STACK: Michael Berens began an investigation that 508 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,588 took him into a little known subculture of Ohio's 509 00:25:21,688 --> 00:25:22,521 interstate truck stops. 510 00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:29,662 MICHAEL: You drive by them and see these restaurants 511 00:25:29,762 --> 00:25:31,664 and these trucks, but until you sit there, 512 00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:34,066 you don't see what the underbelly, the underworld 513 00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:37,036 of these little mini cities that form each night 514 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:40,106 and then break apart each morning and come together. 515 00:25:40,206 --> 00:25:42,374 WOMAN: See you next time, sweetie. 516 00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:43,843 MAN: Yeah. You take care. 517 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:44,977 ROBERT STACK: Berens discovered a 518 00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,747 flourishing sex-for-sale industry at truck stops 519 00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:49,448 throughout the State. 520 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:53,920 On any given night, any number of women were available. 521 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:56,756 MICHAEL: The prostitutes work off a CB radio, 522 00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:59,158 and it's all done anonymously. 523 00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:00,893 The prostitute would get on the radio 524 00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:03,195 and give her handle and some little catch phrase 525 00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:05,397 that she's developed as her trademark. 526 00:26:05,497 --> 00:26:07,199 And the trucker will answer back and say, yeah, this 527 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:09,001 is the blue Peterbilt in row 3. 528 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:10,102 Come meet me. 529 00:26:10,202 --> 00:26:11,871 And she goes off to the truck. 530 00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:13,572 And then usually when she gets in the truck, 531 00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:16,575 she'll use the trucker's CB to radio to her next customer. 532 00:26:19,612 --> 00:26:22,048 ROBERT STACK: 27-Year-old Anna Marie Patterson 533 00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:24,016 was a sixth known victim. 534 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,485 In reviewing the investigation of her murder, 535 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,288 Michael Berens uncovered several possible clues 536 00:26:29,388 --> 00:26:32,458 to the killer's identity. 537 00:26:32,558 --> 00:26:33,359 Hey there, guys. 538 00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:34,661 This is Sleeping Beauty. 539 00:26:34,761 --> 00:26:37,697 If you're looking for a good time, come back. 540 00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:40,466 ROBERT STACK: On February 8, 1987, 541 00:26:40,566 --> 00:26:44,036 Anna Marie was working at a truck stop in Austintown, Ohio, 542 00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:46,739 150 miles north of Columbus. 543 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,241 According to witnesses, just after midnight, 544 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:52,544 Anna Marie answered a call from a driver of a black or dark 545 00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:54,246 blue Peterbilt truck. 546 00:26:54,346 --> 00:26:57,083 The man used the CB handle Dr. No. 547 00:26:57,183 --> 00:26:58,017 Hey, how you doing? 548 00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:58,951 Sleeping Beauty? 549 00:26:59,051 --> 00:26:59,919 Mine sure enough. 550 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:00,820 Come on up. 551 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,088 How you doing tonight? 552 00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:03,055 Great. 553 00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:05,457 My god, it's freezing out there. 554 00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:06,358 Oh, don't you worry. 555 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:07,293 I'll warm you up. 556 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:14,466 ROBERT STACK: 25 days later, Anna Marie's body 557 00:27:14,566 --> 00:27:19,371 was found alongside Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati. 558 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:22,174 SHERIFF COLLINS: Anna Marie was found about 250 559 00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:25,978 miles from where she was last seen, in a field, 560 00:27:26,078 --> 00:27:28,748 in a drainage ditch. 561 00:27:28,848 --> 00:27:31,884 We had about four to six inches of water. 562 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,921 Her head had been bashed in, and she was brutally beaten. 563 00:27:35,021 --> 00:27:35,988 She wasn't just killed. 564 00:27:36,088 --> 00:27:38,124 She was mutilated, in essence. 565 00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:41,761 A sleeping bag has a body, of a white female. 566 00:27:41,861 --> 00:27:44,731 MICHAEL: Anna Marie had a rule of only staying 567 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:46,999 in the truck stop and would not allow a trucker 568 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:49,068 to take her off the stop. 569 00:27:49,168 --> 00:27:50,302 That's why it's believed that she 570 00:27:50,402 --> 00:27:52,304 was probably killed or at least knocked 571 00:27:52,404 --> 00:27:55,207 unconscious at the stop. 572 00:27:55,307 --> 00:27:57,043 ROBERT STACK: At the time of her death, 573 00:27:57,143 --> 00:27:59,746 Anna Marie Patterson was six months pregnant. 574 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:02,715 An autopsy revealed that she had been killed within 48 575 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,817 hours of her disappearance. 576 00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:06,585 The condition of her body clearly 577 00:28:06,685 --> 00:28:09,588 indicated that the killer had kept it refrigerated 578 00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:12,191 for nearly a month. 579 00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,026 MICHAEL: There has been some speculation 580 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,528 that some of these victims have been driven 581 00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,898 many more miles than the actual distance 582 00:28:18,998 --> 00:28:21,433 from last seen to found. 583 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,436 There may be an indication that the killer is doing something 584 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:27,539 with these victims, either verbally, physically, 585 00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,177 or otherwise after death. 586 00:28:31,277 --> 00:28:32,678 ROBERT STACK: According to Berens, 587 00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,681 the killing spree began with the murder of an unidentified woman 588 00:28:35,782 --> 00:28:38,617 in April of 1981. 589 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:41,788 Over the next nine years, the bodies of seven other victims 590 00:28:41,888 --> 00:28:44,924 were dumped along interstates in different counties. 591 00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:48,494 Each woman was viciously beaten or strangled to death. 592 00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:52,498 Each had jewelry and clothing removed from her body. 593 00:28:52,598 --> 00:28:54,033 MICHAEL: The conclusion we reached 594 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:56,502 is that there was overwhelming evidence 595 00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:59,772 that a potential serial killer was trolling Ohio interstates 596 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:01,473 in search of victims, and not only 597 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,542 Ohio, but many different Midwest States 598 00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:05,644 and even going to the east coast. 599 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,580 We thought the evidence was overwhelming to present that 600 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,983 to the public. 601 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:14,720 ROBERT STACK: On March 10, 1991, "The Columbus Dispatch" 602 00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:16,823 ran Michael Berens' story. 603 00:29:16,923 --> 00:29:18,757 It detailed compelling evidence which 604 00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,893 suggested the murders of the eight women 605 00:29:20,993 --> 00:29:24,496 were the work of one killer. 606 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:27,066 10 days later, the Ohio Attorney General 607 00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,201 and the Buckeye State Sheriff's Association 608 00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:31,570 formed a special task force. 609 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,473 They established a 24-hour, toll-free hotline 610 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:39,378 as part of an unprecedented Statewide investigation. 611 00:29:39,478 --> 00:29:44,016 LEE: We were finding that what was happening in one county 612 00:29:44,116 --> 00:29:46,986 was not necessarily being told to another county. 613 00:29:47,086 --> 00:29:50,122 And a clue in one county that may have meant nothing 614 00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:52,658 may have meant a great deal in just the adjacent county. 615 00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:56,863 ROBERT STACK: What maybe the most 616 00:29:56,963 --> 00:30:02,034 significant clue in this case is also the most perplexing. 617 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,403 MICHAEL: Killers tend to dump in places that they 618 00:30:04,503 --> 00:30:05,804 feel comfortable with. 619 00:30:05,905 --> 00:30:07,006 That's why you'll find a grouping 620 00:30:07,106 --> 00:30:09,208 of bodies in a river or such. 621 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,210 This killer scatters these bodies, 622 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:12,178 and that's the big question. 623 00:30:12,278 --> 00:30:13,946 Why? 624 00:30:14,046 --> 00:30:16,682 There have been great speculation among the officers 625 00:30:16,782 --> 00:30:19,919 themselves as do we really have an intelligent killer out there 626 00:30:20,019 --> 00:30:21,988 who knows enough about law enforcement 627 00:30:22,088 --> 00:30:26,758 to have dumped the bodies in these different jurisdictions? 628 00:30:26,859 --> 00:30:29,395 There's even been speculation that the killer could 629 00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:31,530 be a security guard or even a former police 630 00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:33,799 officer who knows enough about police 631 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,868 investigative techniques to do that. 632 00:30:43,109 --> 00:30:44,944 ROBERT STACK: Michael Berens is convinced 633 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:48,447 that one killer is responsible for the eight murders. 634 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:50,616 He is equally convinced that the victims were 635 00:30:50,716 --> 00:30:53,352 all doomed by their occupation. 636 00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:55,221 MICHAEL: I think the killer, no doubt, 637 00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:58,257 picked prostitutes because he knows that it does affect 638 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:00,526 the quality of investigation. 639 00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:02,328 Prostitutes aren't going to be pursued 640 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,464 as aggressively as if it was a child or a suburban housewife. 641 00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:07,399 That's a fact of life, and I think 642 00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:10,169 everyone would agree to that. 643 00:31:10,269 --> 00:31:13,739 I think that the public has compassion for anybody 644 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,174 who is innocently murdered. 645 00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:17,476 No matter what their profession, no matter how they live 646 00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:20,212 their life, when someone's life is 647 00:31:20,312 --> 00:31:23,082 snuffed out, for absolutely no reason, 648 00:31:23,182 --> 00:31:24,150 I think people get angry. 649 00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:29,555 The last known victim in Ohio was 650 00:31:29,655 --> 00:31:32,324 discovered in November of 1990. 651 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:34,026 However, authorities have been stunned to learn 652 00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:37,229 of as many as 150 other homicides nationwide 653 00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:39,798 that fit the same basic pattern. 654 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,833 Recently, truck drivers have been arrested in three 655 00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,036 separate murder investigations. 656 00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:46,705 In each case, the victims were prostitutes, 657 00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:48,640 but none of these suspects has been connected 658 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,875 to any of the Ohio murders. 659 00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:54,746 At least two of the victims were last 660 00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:58,150 seen getting into a black or dark blue Peterbilt tractor, 661 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:01,087 possibly pulling a refrigerated trailer. 662 00:32:01,187 --> 00:32:06,058 The driver may use a CB handles Dr. No, Stargazer, or Dragon. 663 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,629 LEE: I'd like to be able to say that we 664 00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:13,332 know now whether it's one person and whether it's 665 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,466 a serial murderer. 666 00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,635 The truth is that we don't. 667 00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:19,271 And while that is certainly a plausible theory, 668 00:32:19,371 --> 00:32:20,706 at this point, it's nothing more than that. 669 00:32:29,248 --> 00:32:30,549 ROBERT STACK: Stay tuned. 670 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:33,285 An elegant mansion in New Jersey is said to be haunted 671 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:34,686 by the ghost of its builder. 672 00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:48,067 Do ghosts really exist? 673 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:50,469 The fact is that 25% of all Americans 674 00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:53,072 today believe they do. 675 00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,741 Perhaps ghosts are no more than their own need for something 676 00:32:55,841 --> 00:32:57,776 beyond the world we can touch and feel 677 00:32:57,876 --> 00:33:00,379 and logically comprehend. 678 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:03,382 Or perhaps as one family in New Jersey believes, 679 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,650 they're really out there. 680 00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:11,657 In 1923, a man named Bill Beaty had a dream. 681 00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:16,162 He imagined a 17th century Norman castle rising stone 682 00:33:16,262 --> 00:33:18,830 by stone on 150 acres of woodland 683 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:21,533 in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. 684 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:22,501 BILL: Yeah. 685 00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:24,036 Everything Is coming along just fine. 686 00:33:24,136 --> 00:33:26,605 I've just completed work on the kitchen and the basement. 687 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:27,906 ROBERT STACK: Bill Beaty had the means 688 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,042 to make his dream come true. 689 00:33:30,142 --> 00:33:32,444 As an advertising executive in New York City, 690 00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,214 he had amassed a sizable fortune. 691 00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:37,616 His wife, Sarah, was wealthy in her own right. 692 00:33:37,716 --> 00:33:39,851 BILL: Don't do anything with the window until the oak comes in. 693 00:33:39,951 --> 00:33:41,220 Well, when is the oak coming? 694 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,754 It's going to take two or three days. 695 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,223 This is the window I was talking about. 696 00:33:44,323 --> 00:33:45,991 ROBERT STACK: The Beatys envisioned their castle 697 00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:49,261 as the center of an artist's colony surrounded by bungalows 698 00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:50,896 fronting a man-made lake. 699 00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,764 How far up are we going to go? 700 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,666 We're going to go up another foot. 701 00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:55,667 And you're can have 5. 702 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:57,069 You're going to have 11 by 5. 703 00:33:57,169 --> 00:34:00,506 ROBERT STACK: In 1930, before construction was complete, 704 00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:03,842 the Beatys moved into the castle with their four children, 705 00:34:03,942 --> 00:34:07,146 but Bill Beaty would never see the completion of his dream. 706 00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:12,984 Just one year later, he died at the age of 45, 707 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:15,053 a victim of influenza. 708 00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:18,090 His castle would not be finished for another five years. 709 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,362 Sarah Beaty never remarried. 710 00:34:23,462 --> 00:34:25,831 She raised all four children in the castle 711 00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:31,670 and lived there until 1941. 712 00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:35,507 From 1945 to 1971, the castle was occupied 713 00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:37,676 by two different boys schools. 714 00:34:37,776 --> 00:34:40,246 From the start, students and teachers 715 00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:44,049 reported eerie organ music echoing through the corridors. 716 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,985 Oddly, the school owned no pipe organ. 717 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:49,988 However, the long, dead Bill Beaty had owned one. 718 00:34:53,392 --> 00:34:55,026 Was it possible that Bill Beaty loved 719 00:34:55,127 --> 00:34:57,095 his castle so much that he refused 720 00:34:57,196 --> 00:34:59,598 to leave, even in death? 721 00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:02,901 Old timers remember that Sarah Beaty often held seances trying 722 00:35:03,001 --> 00:35:05,003 to communicate with Bill. 723 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,773 When the second boys school moved out of the castle, 724 00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:10,809 many of the faculty and students remained convinced 725 00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,311 the premises were haunted. 726 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:19,651 In 1972, Don and Carol Burlingame bought the castle 727 00:35:19,751 --> 00:35:21,553 and began to remodel. 728 00:35:21,653 --> 00:35:25,257 They would soon learn about the ghost in residence first hand. 729 00:35:25,357 --> 00:35:28,026 DONALD: Carol was really the first one 730 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,229 to feel some sort of presence, and she 731 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:33,965 had a friend that was sort of an amateur parapsychologist. 732 00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,168 And we brought her in, and she said, well, there 733 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:38,103 definitely is a presence here. 734 00:35:38,204 --> 00:35:42,174 He is definitely friendly, and he's male. 735 00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:45,977 And Carol said, well, maybe we should try to get rid of him. 736 00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:49,848 Shouldn't we have a seance? And she said, no. 737 00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:51,650 You better leave things exactly the way they are. 738 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:52,551 He's friendly. 739 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,152 He's happy. 740 00:35:54,253 --> 00:35:57,356 Let it go at that. 741 00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:58,924 ROBERT STACK: After the Burlingames 742 00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:02,127 moved in hammering noise resounded through the hallways, 743 00:36:02,228 --> 00:36:04,696 and disembodied footsteps trod the stairs. 744 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,437 Before long, the ghost made his presence known 745 00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:13,171 in other more high-tech ways. 746 00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:20,879 DONALD: What's going on? 747 00:36:20,979 --> 00:36:22,581 CAROL: I don't know. 748 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,483 Let me see if I can fix it. 749 00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:26,485 You'd just get into a movie, just 750 00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:29,120 the really interesting part and all of a sudden 751 00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,089 the station would change. 752 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,460 It would go from two to three to four to five, 753 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,196 and it happened more than one time. 754 00:36:38,297 --> 00:36:40,532 I knew there was a presence here, 755 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:43,902 but what I couldn't figure out was why was he here? 756 00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:45,371 Who was he? 757 00:36:45,471 --> 00:36:48,073 When was he going to leave, if in fact, 758 00:36:48,173 --> 00:36:49,207 was he ever going to leave? 759 00:36:53,011 --> 00:36:55,180 It was something I couldn't figure out. 760 00:36:55,281 --> 00:36:59,318 The Burlingames began to delve into the history of the castle. 761 00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:03,622 Soon Eugene Melville, who is now 78 years old, turned up. 762 00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:07,659 He had worked for Sarah Beaty from 1933 to 1937 763 00:37:07,759 --> 00:37:11,963 and had his own remarkable tale of countering the ghost. 764 00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:14,199 EUGENE: I said to them what I seen there, 765 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,370 and they said they sensed something themselves, 766 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:20,339 but they never seen him. 767 00:37:20,439 --> 00:37:23,609 But I felt him there a lot. 768 00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:25,811 But I only seen him that once. 769 00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:28,780 I can truthfully say that was the only time I ever 770 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,749 laid eyes on him was that once. 771 00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:32,351 It doesn't seem to be under here, Mrs. B. 772 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:33,752 Why don't you look-- 773 00:37:33,852 --> 00:37:38,189 ROBERT STACK: It was 1934, three years after Bill Beaty's death. 774 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,191 Eugene Melville was helping Sarah search 775 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:43,629 for a bracelet which had been lost during a family gathering. 776 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,738 It's Bill, my husband. 777 00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:55,674 But he's dead, Mrs. B. 778 00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:59,110 But it was a figure of a man standing there. 779 00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:03,114 It didn't stay long for me to examine it very good. 780 00:38:03,214 --> 00:38:05,517 It was gone just like that. 781 00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:06,785 It was scary. 782 00:38:06,885 --> 00:38:08,954 I don't know about this. 783 00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,390 It frighten the daylights out of me. 784 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:13,359 And I never seen him again. 785 00:38:13,459 --> 00:38:14,926 I just never wanted to go on that balcony. 786 00:38:15,026 --> 00:38:16,595 I never went in there again. 787 00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:18,063 It bothered me. 788 00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:21,967 I passed by it, but to get me in there, to stand there, 789 00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:23,335 oh, forget it. 790 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:26,405 I wouldn't go in there. 791 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:28,340 ROBERT STACK: Don and Carol Burlingame 792 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,542 finally understood that they shared their home 793 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,878 with a ghost of Bill Beaty. 794 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:34,713 They believed that on one occasion 795 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:37,583 Bill demonstrated how much she cared about the castle. 796 00:38:37,683 --> 00:38:40,318 DONALD: We decided we were going to go off for a little ride. 797 00:38:40,419 --> 00:38:42,688 And Carol was sort of a fresh air fiend. 798 00:38:42,788 --> 00:38:45,657 So she had all the windows open in the servants wing 799 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:46,858 where we were living. 800 00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,360 Then Don said, you better close all the windows. 801 00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:50,195 It was supposed to rain. I said, no, it's not going rain. 802 00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:51,096 Don't worry about it. 803 00:38:51,196 --> 00:38:52,330 I'm leaving them all open. 804 00:38:52,431 --> 00:38:55,934 So I left them open, we went out, and it rained. 805 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,403 [inaudible] 806 00:38:57,503 --> 00:38:58,370 All right. 807 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:59,337 I'll get upstairs. 808 00:39:07,212 --> 00:39:09,314 We came home, and all of the casement windows, 809 00:39:09,415 --> 00:39:12,984 which opened from the inside and open to the inside, 810 00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:14,520 were all closed and latched. 811 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:15,854 How wet did it get? 812 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,055 It didn't. 813 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,124 There's no water on the floor, everything's fine, 814 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:20,025 and the windows are closed. 815 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:21,259 Well, how is that possible? 816 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,394 I don't know. 817 00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:23,995 So there wasn't a drop of rain in the house. 818 00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:25,897 So our only conclusion was, because there's 819 00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:28,734 no other way for them to have been closed, 820 00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:30,168 is that Bill helped us out. 821 00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:32,103 When he saw the rain coming, he closed all the windows 822 00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:35,607 and gave us a hand. 823 00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,676 ROBERT STACK: From that day on, Bill 824 00:39:37,776 --> 00:39:39,778 Beaty's ghost was a constant presence 825 00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,848 in the Burlingames' lives. 826 00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:46,618 CAROL: Bill and I have an agreement. 827 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:47,986 I chatted with him one day. 828 00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,722 Of course, I didn't see him, but I chatted with him anyhow. 829 00:39:50,822 --> 00:39:55,594 And I said, Bill, you can stay here for as long as you want. 830 00:39:55,694 --> 00:39:57,195 I enjoy having you around. 831 00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:59,297 You don't bother me. 832 00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:03,101 Just don't ever let me see you because if I do see you, 833 00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:05,671 I'll probably wind up in a padded cell somewhere. 834 00:40:05,771 --> 00:40:09,508 So you're welcome to stay just don't materialize. 835 00:40:09,608 --> 00:40:10,408 And he never has. 836 00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:17,048 We've had several experiences in the house, one of which 837 00:40:17,148 --> 00:40:19,485 was I have a habit of leaving the bread out 838 00:40:19,585 --> 00:40:21,119 because it's handy. 839 00:40:21,219 --> 00:40:24,523 And I'd leave it out somewhere and 840 00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:28,827 the next thing I'd turn around it would be on the floor. 841 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:30,295 I was alone in the kitchen. 842 00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:32,964 The bread was on the counter. 843 00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:36,134 There was no way that it could have fallen off by itself. 844 00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:40,572 And when it did fall off or fly off, 845 00:40:40,672 --> 00:40:42,007 it went a considerable distance. 846 00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,543 So I know that someone had to have moved it. 847 00:40:47,513 --> 00:40:49,981 There was no one else there with me at all, no animals, 848 00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:52,984 Don wasn't around, and there was no way 849 00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:54,853 the bread could have gone off the counter 850 00:40:54,953 --> 00:40:56,755 because it was set square. 851 00:40:56,855 --> 00:40:58,490 OK, Bill, that's enough. 852 00:40:58,590 --> 00:40:59,858 Knock it off. 853 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:03,161 And that led me to believe that Bill had to be there saying, 854 00:41:03,261 --> 00:41:06,097 hi, I'm here. 855 00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:08,299 There was just no way that that break could have fallen 856 00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:09,434 off the counter by itself. 857 00:41:12,871 --> 00:41:15,473 ROBERT STACK: In 1986, the Burlingames 858 00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:18,910 invited Dr. Michaeleen Maher, a noted parapsychologist 859 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:20,779 to visit the castle. 860 00:41:20,879 --> 00:41:24,049 Maher, along with an assistant, conducted a series of tests 861 00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:26,317 for paranormal activity. 862 00:41:26,417 --> 00:41:28,419 DR. MAHER: Our physical instruments were not 863 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,824 able to detect anything unusual, but in this particular case, 864 00:41:32,924 --> 00:41:36,094 the sheer volume of the reports adds 865 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:38,096 to the credibility of the case. 866 00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:40,699 People have experienced similar phenomena 867 00:41:40,799 --> 00:41:42,934 when living at the castle, even though these 868 00:41:43,034 --> 00:41:46,371 are people who may never have spoken to each other. 869 00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:49,007 One of our witnesses in this case, 870 00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:52,177 a particularly credible witness, in fact, 871 00:41:52,277 --> 00:41:54,813 a professional person of some stature, 872 00:41:54,913 --> 00:41:59,050 reported seeing in the driveway in front of the castle 873 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:04,189 a person who dissipated right in front of his eyes. 874 00:42:04,289 --> 00:42:05,791 Can I help you? 875 00:42:05,891 --> 00:42:07,292 Who are you? 876 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:17,235 DR. MAHER: I think the big news here is that human persons can 877 00:42:17,335 --> 00:42:21,740 act as sensors, and when we quantitatively evaluate 878 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,178 their responses, we find that we cannot dismiss this evidence 879 00:42:27,278 --> 00:42:28,914 as caused by coincidence. 880 00:42:29,014 --> 00:42:31,617 Well, the steer treads are going up on that second floor. 881 00:42:31,717 --> 00:42:32,517 OK. Come on. 882 00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:33,585 You're all right. 883 00:42:33,685 --> 00:42:34,786 CAROL: The key to existing with the ghost 884 00:42:34,886 --> 00:42:38,356 is if you can accept it, you can enjoy it. 885 00:42:38,456 --> 00:42:40,892 And when things happen, you just write them off 886 00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:42,460 as, oh, it must be the ghost or it 887 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,796 must be Bill if you happened to know who it is, 888 00:42:44,896 --> 00:42:47,198 as is in our case, we do. 889 00:42:47,298 --> 00:42:49,701 And you can have fun with it. 890 00:42:49,801 --> 00:42:53,639 I firmly believe he will never leave the castle. 891 00:42:53,739 --> 00:42:58,309 The love of the thing maybe got the better of his soul. 892 00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:02,547 And I think that's thing got such power is the soul. 893 00:43:02,648 --> 00:43:05,450 It's eternal. 894 00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:07,819 ROBERT STACK: It's been said that the spirits of those who 895 00:43:07,919 --> 00:43:09,955 die with unfinished business are destined 896 00:43:10,055 --> 00:43:12,157 to wander for eternity. 897 00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:15,426 This would seem to be the case with Bill Beaty. 898 00:43:15,526 --> 00:43:18,630 In 1991, after nearly two decades in the castle, 899 00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:21,099 the Burlingames moved away. 900 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:25,503 As far as they know, the ghost of Bill Beaty stayed behind. 901 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:28,774 The Burlingames hope that when the castle is next sold, 902 00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,508 his new owners will enjoy the ghost's 903 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:32,911 presence as much as they did. 904 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,529 Join me next time for an all new edition 905 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:52,497 of "Unsolved Mysteries." 906 00:43:52,597 --> 00:43:55,566 [music playing] 72059

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