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[snorting]
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[gasping
and breathing heavily]
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[pilot] Metro tower,
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this is Northwest Orientflight 305
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we have a situation.
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[Rodney] Tina,
I'm gonna have to have you
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sit up here now.
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I don't wanna
see you get hurt.
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I don't wanna see
anybody get hurt.
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[sharply exhales]
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[exhales]
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[breathing heavily]
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-[tense music playing]
-[door opening]
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[co-pilot] Captain,
the aft door is open.
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Oh, my God.
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[breathing heavily]
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♪
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[quiet suspenseful
music playing]
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[Rodney] My real name
is Rodney Lewis Bonnifield.
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Born July 26, 1952.
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I am D.B. Cooper.
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♪ All these sparkling ♪
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♪ Golden dollar days
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♪ Will wash our normalproblems down the drain ♪
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♪ I can offer youa better today ♪
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♪ I can give to youa court with no judge ♪
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♪ Look around you
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♪ At everythingyou don't has ♪
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♪ Is all you really,really need love? ♪
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♪ I can offer youa better right now ♪
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♪ Lift away all of the weightthat won't budge ♪
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♪ Picture your view ♪
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♪ From your houseon the moon, baby ♪
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♪ Saturn's got rings ♪
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♪ And youshould be wearing them ♪
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♪ Singing all these sparklygolden dollar days ♪
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♪ Will wash our normalproblems down the drain ♪
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♪ Right down the drain ♪
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[Rodney] Had a knife
on the drain board,
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a big Bowie knife,
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come around and they get me
right in the neck.
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And so I just reached up
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had a sheathing knife
about this big
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because it--
it was for hunting, skinning.
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I just reached up
and popped him one.
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So, he dropped the knife
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right in the shoulder,
right there.
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-And so, he dropped the knife.
-[Clifford] Help me.
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[phone line beeps]
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[operator] 911,what is your emergency?
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[Clifford groans]
It's Clifford Rich.
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Lady, goddamn it!
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I've been stabbed!
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Rodney fuckin' Bonnifield.
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[guitar music playing]
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[Rodney] No, I believe in God.
God and country, I do.
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[interviewer]
Nothin' wrong with that.
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[Rodney] No,
nothing wrong with that.
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Least I know
where I'm going.
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A lot of people
don't know where they're goin'.
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Think there's a big force.
Well, guess what?
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I'd rather know where I'm goin'
than not know where I'm goin'.
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[Carlos] So,
I met Rod December of 2016.
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Rodney had been arrested on
assault one,
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uh, essentially a knife fight
and, uh, bailed him out.
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[Mike] But people come
to bail companies
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because
they're in a time of crisis.
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So,
we facilitate individuals
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who are arrested
and held.
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We negotiate
with their friends and family
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and contractually bind them
to attend their court hearings
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and if they fail to appear,
then it's our job to go out
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and find them
and bring them back.
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[man] Sorry, I'm not trying
to be an asshole.
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-No, no.
-Hey, we're not either.
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-[man] I'm loaded.
-So are we.
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[Mike] My name's Mike Rocha.
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I'm a bondsman
for All City Bail Bonds.
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I started doing
recovery work
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when I turned
21-years-old.
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So, a long time,
over 35 years.
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The difference between us
and Dog the Bounty Hunter
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is that we are authorized
and able to carry firearms.
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We typically like
to work under the radar.
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We will go out normally
in the cover of dark,
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arrest the people
that we need to...
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Full-auto.
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...and do it
in a real quiet manner.
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[gunfire]
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My brother, Carlos,
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is in the bail industry
as well.
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I got introduced
to the business
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with my brother 35 years ago
doing some recovery.
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[gunshots]
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I absolutely love it,
uh, everyday is interesting.
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Interesting characters,
interesting scenarios,
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stuff that you're, just,
not got gonna find
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at a regular job for sure.
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And I kissed the ground
when he came to help me,
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that was it, I says,
"That guy there,
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he's a man to come and get me
out of this mess."
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And, so, I was out
for two and a half years.
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I don't have any problem
with anybody else.
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He wasn't fully funded on--
on the bond,
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so people put up some money,
but he had to come back in
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time after time after time
and make his payments
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and he never missed
a payment.
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Uh, and, again,
he could've taken off
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and gone up into the hills
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and he'd be a hard guy
to find.
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I says,
"I'm not runnin' anywhere,
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I'm not guilty
of this crime."
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[Carlos]
He comes into the office
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and first he gives me
his paperwork
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stating
that he had taken a plea deal
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on the knife fight scenario.
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I returned his collateral,
which was,
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uh, I think
four different vehicles.
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[Rodney]
He gave me back my titles.
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He says you--
you made it,
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you did the right thing,
you didn't run.
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And he goes, "Uh, I got
something else to run by you."
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I says, uh,
"I'm D.B. Cooper.
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"I been wanted
for a long time."
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[news anchor]
When he got on a plane
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in Portland, Oregonlast night,
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he was just another passengerwho gave his name
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as D.A. Cooper.
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But today, after hijackinga Northwest Airlines jet,
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then making a getawayby parachute,
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the descriptionon one wire service:
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master criminal.
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I decided to come on out
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and tell the truth
about everything.
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So the people that have a right
to know who I am.
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He seemed rather nice,
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other than he wantedcertain things to be done.
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We were honoring his requestsand, therefore,
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we made no attemptto impede his mission.
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[narrator]
In the early '70s, a hijacker
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calling himself D.B. Cooper
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jumped from an airlinerin flight
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carrying 200,000 bucksin ransom cash
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and disappeared in the woodsof the Pacific Northwest.
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His fate remained unknown,his true identity a mystery.
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That is,perhaps, until now.
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The people got a right to know
who I am and what I am.
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And, uh...
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it was the time
of the Vietnam War...
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it was a time--
it was a time of strife.
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[rock music playing]
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Everything was going down,
Martin Luther King got killed,
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[indistinct] died,
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Everything was going downhill.
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All right, everyone throw in,
don't be cheap.
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[man 1]
All right, raising two.
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You guys, uh,
been following those protests
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-in D.C.?
-[man 2] Yeah, oh yeah.
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Hey, you guys hear about that?
Boys in blue?
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They couldn't hold it down,
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I mean, they had to send in
the fucking US Military.
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Landing
every three minutes,
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I mean, can you fucking believe
this shit?
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[man 3]
That's government, man!
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-Right? Come on!
-[man 2] Are you kidding me?
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America
is the land of opportunity
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and you can bet
your sweet ass
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that if these guys
are taking from the pot,
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then so am I!
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[man 1] Cheers to that shit,
fuckin'-A man.
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[young Rodney]
To the money, boys!
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[Rodney] I don't know,
I liked the easy money.
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I had money all the time.
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The more money I made,
the happier I was.
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I had some nice hotrods
in those days,
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I mean,
I had cars worth $10,000
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and I enjoyed myself.
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And cocaine was coming in
from Panama.
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Goddamn,
that shit is good, Rodney!
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[young Rodney]
You like that?
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I get that from Panama.
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[Rodney] Had plenty of cocaine
if we wanted, but it was--
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it was like, uh,
going out, dancing,
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having fun with all the women
and enjoying yourselves.
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I can't wait
to be in your arms again, babe.
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[woman on phone]
Uh, I can't wait either.
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[Rodney]
I had a way to talk to 'em.
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I had a way
to communicate with women.
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You have to have communication
with women
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otherwise
you ain't gonna get 'em.
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No communicate?
No woman.
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And of course,
you know about what's her name
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that did the song.
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Well, hi, I'm Rita Coolidge
and I'm a singer,
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I sing country music,
and, well,
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I just put out a record
Anytime, Anywhere.
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And sometimes I act on--
on screen as well.
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[Rodney] Met her in Lake Tahoe,
she was singin' at a bar
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and then we had an affair
for a couple days.
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Well,
Rodney had this lone wolf
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kinda mystery about him.
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Like he had a secret
or somethin'.
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You know, I was thinkin'...
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"You should come
to Denver with me."
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[interviewer] So, you said
she wrote a song for you?
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[Rodney] Yeah, Run--
"Run, D.B., Run"
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[interviewer] Can you sing
a little bit of it?
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[Rodney] Uh, well,
I was in the, uh,
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Hard Rock Café
in Lake Tahoe when the--
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the song came out and it says,
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♪ Run D.B. runkeep on running D.B. ♪
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[Carlos] I mean,
he's not a flight risk
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obviously.
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I mean, he's--
he's not going anywhere.
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Other than the fact that he--
I mean, he reoffended, uh--
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[Mike] Doing what we do,
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you're exposed to a lot of
different people.
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And a lot of people
lie to you.
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So, one of the things
that we pride ourself on
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is being able to
cipher through people who lie
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versus people who don't.
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And when Carlos told me
this story, he was-- he was--
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I could feel the excitement
within him
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and by the time dinner
was halfway through,
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my mouth was wide open
and I couldn't,
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you know,
believe the detailed events
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that were being described.
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He's got
lots of crazy stories, um,
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but as I tried
to vet them out,
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they-- they all seem like
they're-- they're legit.
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Him and Don have, uh, some,
uh, mining claims...
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up in the mountains
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and, uh, I've been able
to validate that.
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We're gold miners too,
you know.
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-[laughs]
-[cameraman] Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah, we own a gold mine
in the mountains there.
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Bazooka Gold Mining Company,
LLC.
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[Carlos] Uh, I did my research,
he owned the claims,
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he brought in the ore,
he brought in the, uh,
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the geological assessment.
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Here's our gold strike,
here's the vein.
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This is how massive it is.
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This is my great grandfather,
Sam Bonnifield.
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This is Remington
that made the rifles.
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And there's 2,600 pounds
of gold
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and this is going
to Seattle.
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And they surveyed all of Alaska
and I've got the map.
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I have a Bonnifield Region
up there.
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260 miles of that country
is ours.
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[Carlos] They've been rich,
they've been broke,
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they've been rich again,
they've been broke,
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they've had
lots of adventures.
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I mean I've been to the--
I've been to the farm.
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[Mike]
He, for the last 35ish years
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has lived on a dairy farm.
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Incognito,
uh, with a friend of his.
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[Rodney] We're, uh,
in Washington State
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near the Skagit River.
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The place is, uh,
peace and harmony,
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good-willed men,
a good place to live.
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We always come
ready to go here.
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[barking]
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[Rodney] Because you don't get
a second chance out here.
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380.
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Just like that.
Live with Don Lee at the farm.
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Hell of a guy.
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[Don] My great grandfather
actually homesteaded this farm.
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Started milking cows
as a sophomore in high school.
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We got this farm kinda
rockin' and rollin' for a while
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and then all these people
that are poor come here
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and mess things up.
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There's crazy characters
that come and go.
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It is absolutely,
100% certain
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that he was in a knife fight
and stabbed a guy.
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I do not, uh, have any problems
with anybody
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that don't wanna
give me a problem.
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They give me a problem,
I give 'em a problem back.
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Knives or guns,
it don't matter.
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[Clifford] Oh! Oh, fuck!
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[groaning]
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This Clifford Rich
was staying by my place there.
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He was hanging around
Don Lee's house.
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And I asked Cliff
if he wanted to help me
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paint my house.
285
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So, Rod said "He's a painter,
he's a good painter."
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He was an evil sucker,
you know?
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He was out raping
kids and women,
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I says, "I don't want nothing
to do with you no more."
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I found out about it,
I says,
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"I don't want nothing
to do with you anymore."
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So, I told Don,
"Get him out of the house."
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There are several stories
about what happened
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between Rodney
and Clifford, but apparently
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Clifford went after Rodney
with a machete.
295
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It was one just like this
except it's all black.
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[Rodney]
Well, I took him out anyway.
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[Carlos]
From the criminal perspective,
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you know, it's legit.
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He spoke of being a teamster,
which, at one time,
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he was a teamster,
I know that for a fact,
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but he said
he was very connected
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with the mob,
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did a lot of
strong-arm stuff,
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you know,
on behalf of the union.
305
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Rodney]
I was working the docks
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with the teamsters.
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And then Jimmy Hoffa
got murdered
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and then they called me up
said we need a favor.
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We'll meet you
at Magnolia Bluff.
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We met out, we need to strike
this waterfront, it's 1972.
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They picked me...
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to help 'em do it.
314
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And this is, uh,
John Fitzsimmons.
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-[young Rodney] Fitzsimmons?
-How you doin'?
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[young Rodney] All right.
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All right,
every Thursday at 3:00 p.m.,
318
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a 48-foot sea vessel
by the name of Lucy docks here.
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You will process
all drop offs from Lucy
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under the name
John Alexander.
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Once complete,
you will phone me directly.
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-Is that clear?
-Crystal.
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Your assistance
will not be forgotten.
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I suppose
we'll be in touch then.
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That is a fact.
326
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[interviewer] So,
what do you have to say
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to the people that are--
328
00:13:37,585 --> 00:13:40,954
that-- that might think
that you aren't D.B. Cooper.
329
00:13:41,322 --> 00:13:43,290
Well, I could care less,
I did the job.
330
00:13:43,424 --> 00:13:45,059
There've been a lot of people
over the years
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who've claimed
to be D.B. Cooper.
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Probably the most recognizable
would be Mr. Rackshaw,
333
00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:52,132
but he can't fill in the blanks
like Rodney.
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00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:53,500
In fact,
none of the people
335
00:13:53,635 --> 00:13:55,436
who've claimed to be
D.B. Cooper
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can fill in the slots
like Rodney can.
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00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,608
There's-- there's, just,
too much minutia there
338
00:14:00,742 --> 00:14:02,843
for this to be in his head
and not be real.
339
00:14:04,512 --> 00:14:06,413
[Rodney] I came right down
the Columbia River
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00:14:06,548 --> 00:14:08,248
at Tena Bar
341
00:14:08,382 --> 00:14:10,351
and there's a cove in there
and I looked at the cove
342
00:14:10,484 --> 00:14:12,920
when I was comin' down,
I landed right in the sands.
343
00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:15,456
I left $5,880 on the beach
344
00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:17,391
and I took $300 more out
345
00:14:17,525 --> 00:14:19,993
and that leaves
$193,000 left
346
00:14:20,127 --> 00:14:21,563
somewhat, in dollars.
347
00:14:21,696 --> 00:14:23,364
It's on that beach right now.
348
00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:25,533
So, if I find the rock,
we're gonna dig it up
349
00:14:25,667 --> 00:14:27,368
and we'll get that money.
350
00:14:27,502 --> 00:14:29,069
And the only reason
I thought it had credibility
351
00:14:29,203 --> 00:14:30,471
enough to at least pursue
a little bit,
352
00:14:30,605 --> 00:14:32,373
do some research
and then bring Mike in
353
00:14:32,507 --> 00:14:34,576
was the fact that he was gonna
bring the money to me.
354
00:14:34,709 --> 00:14:37,144
He was gonna set the money
on the desk
355
00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:39,581
and then from there
he wanted me to do something
356
00:14:39,714 --> 00:14:41,248
with the cash.
357
00:14:41,382 --> 00:14:42,584
My plan is probably
to go underground,
358
00:14:42,717 --> 00:14:44,051
sell some of the money,
you know?
359
00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:46,019
But, that's business.
360
00:14:46,153 --> 00:14:48,222
Why not? It's my money.
I took it.
361
00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:50,224
And, uh, if I get somebody
to help me sell it,
362
00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:51,959
then fine, dandy,
I get it sold.
363
00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:53,528
[Carlos] So,
Rod had an idea
364
00:14:53,661 --> 00:14:55,362
of what the value
of the money was
365
00:14:55,496 --> 00:14:57,297
and it was an inflated amount
based off the fact
366
00:14:57,431 --> 00:15:00,167
that a kid had been camping
down on the river,
367
00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,002
actually found some money,
368
00:15:02,136 --> 00:15:05,305
and then selling the money
at a much higher value
369
00:15:05,439 --> 00:15:07,007
than what the actual face is.
370
00:15:07,609 --> 00:15:10,545
[interviewer] So, did you bury
the $5,800 immediately?
371
00:15:10,678 --> 00:15:12,146
Yes.
372
00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:14,081
The reason why,
I always leave a tip.
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00:15:14,783 --> 00:15:16,417
So that they thought
I'd gone in the river.
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00:15:16,551 --> 00:15:19,386
I put the money there,
in all 20s,
375
00:15:19,521 --> 00:15:21,088
I put 'em in a stack.
376
00:15:21,221 --> 00:15:22,923
[interviewer]
Why that amount of money?
377
00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:24,425
[Rodney] I don't know,
I just reached in the bag
378
00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,093
and grabbed whatever I had,
and counted it,
379
00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:28,696
it was $5,880 and I went,
"Okay, that's--
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00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:30,464
somebody will find this,
some fisherman
381
00:15:30,598 --> 00:15:32,266
or some hiker or--
382
00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,101
well, they didn't find it
for nine more years.
383
00:15:34,234 --> 00:15:35,637
[news anchor]
Then the Dwayne Ingrum family
384
00:15:35,770 --> 00:15:37,171
entered the picturelast February.
385
00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:39,206
I was gonna build a fire
386
00:15:39,339 --> 00:15:40,675
and I had some woodin my arm
387
00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:42,644
and I got readyto set it down
388
00:15:42,777 --> 00:15:44,411
and my son ran up and said,"Wait a minute, Daddy."
389
00:15:44,546 --> 00:15:47,114
So, he raked a placeout in the sand
390
00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:49,551
and there it was, it kindatumbled up on the top.
391
00:15:49,684 --> 00:15:51,619
[news anchor]
What his young son found
392
00:15:51,753 --> 00:15:53,287
was part of Cooper's loot.
393
00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:55,255
Badly decomposed,in bundles,
394
00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,725
still in the same orderwhen packed nine years ago.
395
00:15:57,859 --> 00:16:00,194
[Mike] The Columbia River
is a massive river.
396
00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:02,697
And it's an ever-changing
riverbank.
397
00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:05,567
This is where large
shipping vessels come through
398
00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:08,302
and bring product
to and from other countries
399
00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:09,704
and distribute it
around the world.
400
00:16:09,838 --> 00:16:12,039
So, they have to
continually dredge it
401
00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:14,041
and make sure that it's clear
for the shipping lanes.
402
00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:17,010
[man] Dredging is donein a lot of major waterways
403
00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:18,713
and that's to keepthe waterway open
404
00:16:18,847 --> 00:16:20,380
for commerce
405
00:16:20,515 --> 00:16:22,382
because it's not that deep
406
00:16:22,517 --> 00:16:24,117
and they have to dig outthat waterway year after year.
407
00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:27,254
Rodney described his burying
of the $5,800
408
00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:30,357
to be in a very shallow area
because he did it very hastily
409
00:16:30,491 --> 00:16:33,060
and scientists
in 2020 determined
410
00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,630
that there was algae
found on the money
411
00:16:35,763 --> 00:16:38,566
that could've only been there
during a spring bloom.
412
00:16:38,933 --> 00:16:40,602
So, it's--
it's possible that the money,
413
00:16:40,735 --> 00:16:44,104
having been buried
in a shallow area,
414
00:16:44,238 --> 00:16:47,509
later on, after a dredging,
was exposed to the water,
415
00:16:47,642 --> 00:16:51,546
thus exposing it to the algae
that only blooms in the spring.
416
00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:53,113
[man] That's key,
417
00:16:53,247 --> 00:16:55,048
because it meansthe ransom money
418
00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,584
entered the watermonths after Cooper jumped.
419
00:16:56,718 --> 00:16:58,485
For instance,Kay says it scuttles
420
00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:01,188
the FBI's original theoryin the 1980s
421
00:17:01,321 --> 00:17:03,123
that the ransom moneyflowed from rivers
422
00:17:03,257 --> 00:17:05,660
in the suspected drop zonenear Lake Merwin
423
00:17:05,793 --> 00:17:07,427
down throughthe Washougal River
424
00:17:07,562 --> 00:17:09,329
to the Columbia.
425
00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,265
The so-called"Washougal Wash Down Theory."
426
00:17:11,398 --> 00:17:13,367
The money was not floatingin the water for a year,
427
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,068
otherwisewe would've seen diatoms
428
00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:16,538
from the full rangeof the year.
429
00:17:16,671 --> 00:17:18,540
We only saw themfrom the spring--
430
00:17:18,673 --> 00:17:20,240
springtime bloom.
431
00:17:20,374 --> 00:17:22,544
So this putsa very narrow range
432
00:17:22,677 --> 00:17:24,378
on when the money got wet
433
00:17:24,512 --> 00:17:26,313
and was subsequentlyburied on Tena Bar.
434
00:17:26,446 --> 00:17:27,749
Rodney knew
all kinds of specifics
435
00:17:27,882 --> 00:17:29,751
about--
about the hijacking.
436
00:17:29,884 --> 00:17:31,451
[interviewer]
What were you wearing that day?
437
00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:34,556
I wore a sports jacket,
penny loafers,
438
00:17:34,689 --> 00:17:37,190
black tie,
which belonged to my dad.
439
00:17:37,324 --> 00:17:38,726
The one piece
of physical evidence
440
00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:41,529
that really yielded
something substantial
441
00:17:41,663 --> 00:17:44,632
was the fact that the tie
was analyzed at the time
442
00:17:44,766 --> 00:17:46,500
and throughout the years
continued to be analyzed
443
00:17:46,634 --> 00:17:48,201
as technology got better
444
00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:49,837
and titanium
was one of the major alloys
445
00:17:49,971 --> 00:17:52,139
found on it.
446
00:17:52,272 --> 00:17:54,441
[newsman] The periodical tableof clues, say scientists,
447
00:17:54,576 --> 00:17:58,111
suggests Cooper had accessto a manufacturing company
448
00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:01,181
that made airplanes,like the one he jumped from.
449
00:18:01,315 --> 00:18:04,318
Perhaps a companywith a connection to Boeing.
450
00:18:04,451 --> 00:18:07,354
Rodney did identify the fact
that that tie was his father's
451
00:18:07,487 --> 00:18:08,523
and that he did work
at Boeing.
452
00:18:08,656 --> 00:18:10,324
Uh, he had the--
453
00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:12,694
the times
down to specifics.
454
00:18:12,827 --> 00:18:15,228
Exact time frame, uh,
455
00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:17,397
that lines up with--
with what, um,
456
00:18:17,532 --> 00:18:18,733
the authorities have.
457
00:18:18,866 --> 00:18:20,635
[Rodney]
Left Portland about 4:30,
458
00:18:20,768 --> 00:18:22,637
it was getting kinda dark,
it was during the winter.
459
00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:24,806
And then we got up
in the air and it was raining.
460
00:18:24,939 --> 00:18:26,841
They seated me in 18E
in the back
461
00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:28,676
near the stewardess.
462
00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:30,578
He knew the type of cigarettes
that were smoked.
463
00:18:30,712 --> 00:18:32,446
[interviewer]
Did they allow you to smoke
464
00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:34,448
-back in the day on airplanes?
-[Rodney] Yes, they did.
465
00:18:34,582 --> 00:18:36,483
I smoked about eight Raleigh's,
but I just barely smoked them.
466
00:18:36,618 --> 00:18:38,118
I was nervous.
467
00:18:39,621 --> 00:18:41,889
The-- the cocktails
that were ordered--
468
00:18:42,023 --> 00:18:45,392
[Rodney] I ordered me a bourbon
and they brought me a double.
469
00:18:45,526 --> 00:18:46,794
[stewardess]
Can I get you anything?
470
00:18:46,928 --> 00:18:48,362
[young Rodney] Uh, yes.
471
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,197
I'll take a bourbon
on the rocks
472
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:53,433
and if you could
keep those coming
473
00:18:53,568 --> 00:18:55,402
until the plane lands
or I jump out of it,
474
00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:56,804
that'd be great.
475
00:18:56,938 --> 00:18:58,405
I'll make it a double,
how 'bout that?
476
00:18:58,539 --> 00:18:59,874
[Carlos]
And the more I looked into it,
477
00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:01,643
the more I thought,
"Well, he's either
478
00:19:01,776 --> 00:19:04,512
the most well-versed
D.B. Cooper fanatic
479
00:19:04,646 --> 00:19:07,314
that I've ever met
or even heard of,
480
00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:09,316
um, or he's D.B. Cooper."
481
00:19:09,449 --> 00:19:12,152
It's hard to look somebody
in the eye
482
00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:15,823
who is so sincere about their
story
483
00:19:15,957 --> 00:19:18,693
and discount it or,
484
00:19:18,826 --> 00:19:20,427
um, call them a liar.
485
00:19:20,561 --> 00:19:21,863
The guy's a character,
486
00:19:21,996 --> 00:19:23,531
and he's just enough
of a character
487
00:19:23,665 --> 00:19:25,232
to have jumped out
of an airplane, uh,
488
00:19:25,365 --> 00:19:27,300
being suicidal
with nothing to lose and--
489
00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:29,504
and, you know,
pulling it off.
490
00:19:29,637 --> 00:19:32,740
I'm inclined to believe
that-- that he's the guy.
491
00:19:33,306 --> 00:19:34,876
I wanna believe
he's the guy.
492
00:19:35,009 --> 00:19:36,611
[Mike] Reintroducing it
to myself, you know,
493
00:19:36,744 --> 00:19:37,912
I-- I start to realize
some of the details
494
00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:39,547
that were out there.
495
00:19:39,681 --> 00:19:42,215
And when he added
to those details,
496
00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:44,251
it--
it was very convincing.
497
00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:46,821
He's either convinced himself
that it's real
498
00:19:46,954 --> 00:19:48,221
or it's real.
499
00:19:48,589 --> 00:19:50,490
So, with that, it's--
500
00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:52,593
it's worth coming
to take a look.
501
00:19:53,661 --> 00:19:55,530
[Carlos] So,
after some deliberation,
502
00:19:55,663 --> 00:19:58,265
Mike and I decided that
maybe we should go down
503
00:19:58,398 --> 00:19:59,901
and dig up this money.
504
00:20:00,034 --> 00:20:01,703
[Mike] We're going
on an exploratory mission here
505
00:20:01,836 --> 00:20:05,439
to see if he is the guy
to confirm or not
506
00:20:05,573 --> 00:20:08,509
whether he's the person
who hijacked an airplane in,
507
00:20:08,643 --> 00:20:10,912
you know, in 1971,
a long time ago.
508
00:20:11,045 --> 00:20:12,580
So,
there's a lot of questions
509
00:20:12,714 --> 00:20:14,314
and there's a lot of mystery
around it.
510
00:20:14,448 --> 00:20:15,783
If I'm not mistaken,
it's the only unsolved
511
00:20:15,917 --> 00:20:17,752
hijacking
in the history of the world.
512
00:20:18,186 --> 00:20:21,656
Uh, and-- and that has to have
some interest.
513
00:20:21,789 --> 00:20:23,490
There's some
sex appeal to that.
514
00:20:23,624 --> 00:20:25,358
I mean, it's almost
like treasure hunting.
515
00:20:25,492 --> 00:20:26,861
I think everybody has
a little kid inside of them
516
00:20:26,994 --> 00:20:29,329
that loves the idea
of going and finding
517
00:20:29,463 --> 00:20:30,932
some buried treasure,
518
00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:32,567
and that's exactly
what we're gonna try to do.
519
00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,367
I mean, I think
he's getting to the--
520
00:20:34,502 --> 00:20:36,403
to the end of life
and he wants people to know.
521
00:20:37,138 --> 00:20:38,840
And he might not have
the opportunity
522
00:20:38,973 --> 00:20:40,508
to tell this story 'cause
we're within two weeks
523
00:20:40,641 --> 00:20:43,343
of him potentially
going to prison, so
524
00:20:43,477 --> 00:20:45,479
the time is growing short.
525
00:20:45,613 --> 00:20:47,314
Uh, 9:30 tomorrow, I'm supposed
to have a court date,
526
00:20:47,447 --> 00:20:48,649
I'm not gonna show up.
527
00:20:48,783 --> 00:20:50,484
And on May 9th,
my mom's birthday,
528
00:20:50,618 --> 00:20:51,953
my brother's birthday,
529
00:20:52,086 --> 00:20:53,453
and my daughter's birthday
is May 9th.
530
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,990
I'm not going to court
to get sentenced on May 9.
531
00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:57,825
He's been going to court
532
00:20:57,959 --> 00:21:00,595
and the prosecutor
wants to put him away
533
00:21:00,728 --> 00:21:02,997
for something
that he should be given
534
00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:04,699
an award for.
535
00:21:04,832 --> 00:21:06,768
And the fact is,
he is a life-long criminal.
536
00:21:06,901 --> 00:21:08,936
I mean, he lives
and thinks like a criminal.
537
00:21:09,070 --> 00:21:10,571
that's the way he's wired.
538
00:21:10,972 --> 00:21:13,273
Uh, now he's calmed down,
he's trying to find peace
539
00:21:13,406 --> 00:21:15,275
in his-- his--
his later years.
540
00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:16,744
And you ask about
his bad upbringing,
541
00:21:16,878 --> 00:21:18,311
he didn't have
a bad upbringing,
542
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:19,747
he told you
he was born a criminal.
543
00:21:19,881 --> 00:21:21,314
[interviewer]
So when you were a kid
544
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:22,717
you always wanted
to be a-- a--
545
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:24,484
-a gangster?
-Yeah. I was born one.
546
00:21:25,753 --> 00:21:28,656
My mom's given me birth
at Chief Seattle Statue
547
00:21:28,790 --> 00:21:30,658
rushed me
to the West Seattle Hospital,
548
00:21:30,792 --> 00:21:32,059
and that's where I was born.
549
00:21:32,627 --> 00:21:34,629
[mom]
He was a very busy little boy.
550
00:21:34,762 --> 00:21:37,364
He was always into
many different things.
551
00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:38,766
He was an asshole.
552
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:40,467
[interviewer]
Can you take us back
553
00:21:40,601 --> 00:21:42,069
to your first experience
with criminal activity?
554
00:21:42,203 --> 00:21:43,671
[Rodney] Okay, I go
into an ice cream parlor,
555
00:21:43,805 --> 00:21:45,472
I was five
and a half years old,
556
00:21:45,606 --> 00:21:47,008
I didn't have the money
to pay for the ice cream,
557
00:21:47,141 --> 00:21:48,709
so while she went out
to use the restroom,
558
00:21:48,843 --> 00:21:50,578
I got the two ice creams
and I took the till
559
00:21:50,711 --> 00:21:52,580
and opened it up and got
all the money out the till
560
00:21:52,713 --> 00:21:54,314
and walked right out.
561
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:58,953
♪
562
00:22:16,704 --> 00:22:18,039
[employee] Hey!
What're you doing!
563
00:22:18,172 --> 00:22:19,907
Kid! Hey!
564
00:22:20,041 --> 00:22:21,642
He--
565
00:22:21,776 --> 00:22:24,846
he thought of lots of ways to,
um, make money.
566
00:22:24,979 --> 00:22:26,479
He was a thief.
567
00:22:26,614 --> 00:22:29,050
♪ Come on,gimme a reason ♪
568
00:22:29,183 --> 00:22:31,552
♪ To make me stay ♪
569
00:22:31,686 --> 00:22:33,788
♪ And if you come beggin' ♪
570
00:22:33,921 --> 00:22:35,089
[Rodney] I robbed
my first beer truck
571
00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:36,757
when I was 13.
572
00:22:36,891 --> 00:22:40,695
[indistinct] way,
and I robbed it.
573
00:22:40,828 --> 00:22:43,631
Took the kegs off it,
me and this other kid.
574
00:22:43,764 --> 00:22:47,134
♪
575
00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:51,839
Jackpot!
576
00:22:51,973 --> 00:22:54,008
-He was a little entrepreneur.
-A little bastard.
577
00:22:54,141 --> 00:22:55,843
[Rodney]
And the 18 and 19 year olds
578
00:22:55,977 --> 00:22:57,511
would buy my beer
from me back then
579
00:22:57,645 --> 00:22:58,880
so I had money
all the time.
580
00:22:59,013 --> 00:23:01,549
Welcome!
Ten bucks a keg, you hounds.
581
00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,719
Come on, cough it up.
582
00:23:04,852 --> 00:23:06,654
It's a good day
to be in the beer business,
583
00:23:06,787 --> 00:23:08,488
suckers.
584
00:23:08,623 --> 00:23:09,557
[female interviewer]
When did you notice a change
585
00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:10,758
in Rodney?
586
00:23:11,125 --> 00:23:12,693
-I--
-Uh--
587
00:23:12,827 --> 00:23:14,494
I don't wanna talk about--
Can we just--
588
00:23:14,629 --> 00:23:16,530
I think we need to move on
to a different question.
589
00:23:16,664 --> 00:23:20,801
Rodney.
Take your pills and go to bed.
590
00:23:22,803 --> 00:23:25,006
-No more magazines!
-[door clicks shut]
591
00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:27,975
-That kid.
-What's he doin' now?
592
00:23:28,109 --> 00:23:30,745
He won't stop
with the magazines.
593
00:23:30,878 --> 00:23:32,680
What kinda mag--
are they Playboys?
594
00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:34,649
I'm missing some Playboys.
595
00:23:35,249 --> 00:23:37,585
[Mom] Oh, I don't know.
I never thought of that.
596
00:23:38,085 --> 00:23:41,022
I-- I guess it's better
than Playgirl.
597
00:23:41,155 --> 00:23:42,990
[Mom] Oh, gosh, I don't wanna
have to worry about that.
598
00:23:45,226 --> 00:23:46,493
You know, uh...
599
00:23:47,328 --> 00:23:49,462
I got another call
from the principal today.
600
00:23:49,964 --> 00:23:51,431
[Mom] No--
601
00:23:51,565 --> 00:23:52,133
They're thinking
about kicking Rod out.
602
00:23:52,967 --> 00:23:54,502
I told you
603
00:23:54,635 --> 00:23:57,038
that he is not taking
his medicine
604
00:23:57,171 --> 00:23:59,674
and when he doesn't take
his medicine,
605
00:23:59,807 --> 00:24:01,208
he goes bonkers.
606
00:24:01,342 --> 00:24:02,475
I don't like
when he takes that medicine--
607
00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:03,945
I know--
608
00:24:04,078 --> 00:24:05,846
He doesn't need anything
to calm him down.
609
00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:07,748
I don't know what else to do.
610
00:24:10,284 --> 00:24:11,552
[Dad] Military school?
611
00:24:14,121 --> 00:24:15,790
If you can convince him.
612
00:24:15,923 --> 00:24:17,558
[Dad] I don't think
we should give him a gun.
613
00:24:17,692 --> 00:24:19,093
[Mike] We've got things
614
00:24:19,226 --> 00:24:21,529
that we may
or may not need tomorrow.
615
00:24:21,662 --> 00:24:23,164
Um, we've got guns
616
00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:25,199
just to make sure
that we're safe
617
00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:27,234
and that everybody's safe
'cause we have no idea,
618
00:24:27,368 --> 00:24:29,003
really,
what we're up against.
619
00:24:29,136 --> 00:24:31,772
This guy claims to be
a life-long criminal,
620
00:24:31,906 --> 00:24:34,608
so we have no idea
what he's capable of
621
00:24:34,742 --> 00:24:36,677
or who
his affiliations are.
622
00:24:36,811 --> 00:24:38,212
So,
he could have people out there
623
00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,147
waiting for us to bring it back
to the hotel,
624
00:24:40,281 --> 00:24:43,084
people that track us
to the dig site.
625
00:24:43,217 --> 00:24:46,954
And if this money,
um, is there,
626
00:24:47,088 --> 00:24:48,189
uh, I-- I really feel like
627
00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:49,790
we can't let him
just walk away.
628
00:24:49,924 --> 00:24:51,525
There's no option there.
629
00:24:51,659 --> 00:24:52,994
I mean, if--
if we don't turn the money in
630
00:24:53,127 --> 00:24:54,628
then we're liaisons...
631
00:24:54,762 --> 00:24:56,097
-We're criminals--
-...to the crime.
632
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:57,497
He thinks
he has this thing lined up.
633
00:24:57,965 --> 00:24:59,266
[Mike] We're gonna set up camp
in Woodland,
634
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,002
that's where the hotels
are gonna be
635
00:25:01,135 --> 00:25:02,636
that we're gonna work out of
and then the--
636
00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:04,171
the bar that the money
was found
637
00:25:04,305 --> 00:25:06,841
is down southwest
of that area.
638
00:25:07,341 --> 00:25:09,810
So, geographically,
it's not too far away.
639
00:25:09,944 --> 00:25:11,145
Just outside of town.
640
00:25:11,278 --> 00:25:12,880
We're gonna rally
at 5:00 a.m.
641
00:25:13,014 --> 00:25:15,116
and we're gonna drive down
the highway
642
00:25:15,249 --> 00:25:18,119
and, um,
go after the money.
643
00:25:18,252 --> 00:25:20,755
Just basically--
just go right at it.
644
00:25:20,888 --> 00:25:23,290
Picked the boys up,
they're ready to roll.
645
00:25:23,924 --> 00:25:26,060
[Rodney] Let's go down
and unbury that money.
646
00:25:26,193 --> 00:25:27,595
[Mike] All right,
let's get her done.
647
00:25:27,728 --> 00:25:28,996
[Rodney]
All right, all right.
648
00:25:29,130 --> 00:25:30,831
You can ask me
any questions you want.
649
00:25:30,965 --> 00:25:32,199
[interviewer] Did you ever
conceive of this plan
650
00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:33,968
beforehand
or thought, like,"Oh,
651
00:25:34,101 --> 00:25:35,036
you know, I might be able
to hijack a plane,
652
00:25:35,169 --> 00:25:36,303
get some ransom money,
653
00:25:36,437 --> 00:25:37,872
-and jump out of it?"
-Never.
654
00:25:38,005 --> 00:25:40,174
I call it skyjacking,
but never.
655
00:25:40,307 --> 00:25:41,842
[interviewer]
How did you even know
656
00:25:41,976 --> 00:25:43,577
how to jump out
of a commercial airplane?
657
00:25:43,711 --> 00:25:44,879
It seems like
you would have to
658
00:25:45,012 --> 00:25:47,548
know something about aviation.
659
00:25:47,681 --> 00:25:51,018
A friend of mine,
Roger Gackle was a flight--
660
00:25:51,152 --> 00:25:52,553
he organized the flights
661
00:25:52,686 --> 00:25:53,888
coming in and out
of the airport.
662
00:25:54,021 --> 00:25:55,556
He invited me in
with Rick Gackle,
663
00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:57,591
so I knew the whole layout
before I did it.
664
00:25:57,725 --> 00:25:59,060
[interviewer] Okay,
so Roger Gackle
665
00:25:59,193 --> 00:26:00,728
was kind of like this guy
that taught you
666
00:26:00,861 --> 00:26:01,962
the inner workings
of what aviation is.
667
00:26:02,096 --> 00:26:03,697
He just [indistinct].
668
00:26:03,831 --> 00:26:08,869
♪
669
00:26:12,139 --> 00:26:13,207
[man] Let's go Rod!
670
00:26:16,277 --> 00:26:17,344
[bowling pins clatter]
671
00:26:17,878 --> 00:26:19,814
-[man] Yeah!
-[men cheering]
672
00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:21,715
That's how it's done, fellas!
673
00:26:21,849 --> 00:26:23,017
-Hey, where's Gackle?
-He went back to the airport.
674
00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:24,785
[young Rodney grunts]
675
00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:26,555
Gackle gave me
a tour of that 727 last week.
676
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,155
-Have you been on that thing?
-Nah.
677
00:26:28,289 --> 00:26:29,790
[sighs] He showed me
every switch and lever.
678
00:26:29,924 --> 00:26:31,659
That bird can do
some serious action.
679
00:26:31,792 --> 00:26:33,194
This guy's been hot
on airplanes ever since
680
00:26:33,327 --> 00:26:34,929
he jumped off the roof
when he was seven.
681
00:26:35,062 --> 00:26:36,764
[all laughing]
682
00:26:36,897 --> 00:26:39,266
-Hey! What's up, you goons?
-[Marty] Hey, buddy boy.
683
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,901
We goin'
to the loop on Friday?
684
00:26:41,035 --> 00:26:43,003
[all] Oh, the loop!
685
00:26:43,137 --> 00:26:45,840
Oh, the loop! Yeah!
686
00:26:47,208 --> 00:26:51,011
South of the
Washington-Oregon border.
687
00:26:51,145 --> 00:26:53,180
A little
Portland hideout, fun-out.
688
00:26:53,314 --> 00:26:54,381
And when Rodney showed up...
689
00:26:54,516 --> 00:26:56,317
[guitar riff plays]
690
00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:58,352
...that's when
the party lifted off.
691
00:27:01,455 --> 00:27:03,257
[young Rodney]
Hey, how you doin'?
692
00:27:04,258 --> 00:27:05,693
[Marty] Hey, what's up, Rod?
693
00:27:05,826 --> 00:27:06,961
How you doing, brother?
694
00:27:07,094 --> 00:27:08,929
-Hey, Rod.
-Hey, baby.
695
00:27:09,063 --> 00:27:10,397
[Rodney] Oh, the loop iswhere we used to gang fight,
696
00:27:10,532 --> 00:27:12,066
race cars,and monkey around
697
00:27:12,199 --> 00:27:13,734
with wild womendown there, okay?
698
00:27:13,868 --> 00:27:15,970
[Marty] Here's the loop.Fast cars.
699
00:27:16,103 --> 00:27:17,371
Yeah, dude,
it looks like you need
700
00:27:17,506 --> 00:27:19,073
a new radiator hose.
701
00:27:19,206 --> 00:27:21,775
[Marty] Lotta women.Lotta drugs.
702
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:23,911
Goddamn this shit is good.
703
00:27:24,044 --> 00:27:25,713
[Marty] Lotta people
704
00:27:25,846 --> 00:27:27,148
havin' a good timemixing 'em all together.
705
00:27:27,281 --> 00:27:28,883
Gotcha! [laughs]
706
00:27:29,016 --> 00:27:31,018
Do me next,
but I like it a little slower!
707
00:27:31,152 --> 00:27:32,920
Fuck you, Larry.
708
00:27:33,053 --> 00:27:35,689
Well, look who decides
to show his cock to the party!
709
00:27:35,823 --> 00:27:37,091
Welcome, baby.
710
00:27:37,224 --> 00:27:39,727
Let's have
a good time. [laughs]
711
00:27:41,829 --> 00:27:43,030
[Marty] It was everythingwe were about.
712
00:27:44,732 --> 00:27:47,067
We lived it.
713
00:27:47,201 --> 00:27:49,036
That's one ofmy favorite memories.
714
00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:50,971
I remember one time Rodney,was waving around a gun.
715
00:27:51,105 --> 00:27:52,773
I think he-- I don't knowwhat drug he was on.
716
00:27:52,907 --> 00:27:53,974
You never really knew.
717
00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:55,442
I probably helped him with it.
718
00:27:55,577 --> 00:27:56,877
He was just
waving around a gun,
719
00:27:57,011 --> 00:27:58,245
wanting to fight.
720
00:27:58,846 --> 00:28:00,181
I can't even remember,
he was ready
721
00:28:00,314 --> 00:28:01,949
to fight anyone, even me.
722
00:28:02,082 --> 00:28:03,450
-You see Stacy's cousin?
-[Rodney] Wayne Shannon,
723
00:28:03,585 --> 00:28:05,319
I fought himtwice out in Gutterway.
724
00:28:05,452 --> 00:28:06,787
First time was a draw.Second time I beat him.
725
00:28:06,921 --> 00:28:08,822
Who didn't see
Stacy's cousin.
726
00:28:08,956 --> 00:28:11,058
-Fuck! Goddamn.
-[all laugh]
727
00:28:11,192 --> 00:28:13,827
Yeah, I seem to remember
Stacy's cousin
728
00:28:13,961 --> 00:28:15,963
because I think it was around
her 19th birthday.
729
00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:17,831
We had a pretty
good time together.
730
00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:20,434
[laughs] Yeah, and I bet
she enjoyed all three seconds.
731
00:28:20,569 --> 00:28:24,104
[all laughing]
732
00:28:25,072 --> 00:28:26,340
Excuse me?
733
00:28:26,473 --> 00:28:28,342
You heard me.
I mean, girls talk.
734
00:28:28,943 --> 00:28:31,078
And they need
someone to lay the pipe.
735
00:28:31,212 --> 00:28:33,847
And we know that's not you.
I mean, let's be honest.
736
00:28:33,981 --> 00:28:35,749
[scattered laughter]
737
00:28:35,883 --> 00:28:37,751
You know what? Forget you.
738
00:28:37,885 --> 00:28:40,221
Bring your skinny dick over
here and say that to my face.
739
00:28:40,354 --> 00:28:42,489
[man] Whoa, whoa, whoa!
740
00:28:42,624 --> 00:28:45,159
-[ominous music playing]
-[all yelling in panic]
741
00:28:45,292 --> 00:28:48,829
-[gun cocking]
-Come on, Rodney, come on, man.
742
00:28:49,496 --> 00:28:53,500
Now, if anyone else
wants to piss me off
743
00:28:53,635 --> 00:28:56,504
and get on my nerves,
let's have a discussion
744
00:28:56,638 --> 00:29:00,274
right now, right here,
in my office.
745
00:29:01,075 --> 00:29:02,810
Anybody got
a problem with that?
746
00:29:02,943 --> 00:29:04,812
[Wayne] No, man.
We're cool, we're cool.
747
00:29:04,945 --> 00:29:06,013
[interviewer]
I mean, you have to be
748
00:29:06,146 --> 00:29:07,815
a pretty crazed lunatic
749
00:29:07,948 --> 00:29:11,252
in order to hijack
a commercial airline flight.
750
00:29:11,385 --> 00:29:14,121
Well, I was--
I was up for four days.
751
00:29:14,255 --> 00:29:16,457
I had a bag
of criss-cross speed
752
00:29:17,157 --> 00:29:19,527
-and I'd pop 'em and get up.
-[Interviewer] So like stuff,
753
00:29:19,661 --> 00:29:21,829
-like, Johnny Cash used to do?
-[Rodney] Yeah, same stuff.
754
00:29:21,962 --> 00:29:23,497
Not the black beauties,
but the-- the,
755
00:29:23,632 --> 00:29:25,332
you know,
the white criss-cross speed.
756
00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:27,334
It was all over the place
in the old days.
757
00:29:27,468 --> 00:29:29,436
We'd always take the uppers
when we went drinkin'
758
00:29:29,571 --> 00:29:31,805
and-- and carousing
and stuff so--
759
00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:34,008
Rodney always had a plan,
760
00:29:34,576 --> 00:29:36,243
no matter what it was.
761
00:29:36,377 --> 00:29:40,080
-[young Rodney whistling]
-[Marty vocalizing]
762
00:29:40,214 --> 00:29:41,448
[young Rodney] Knock-knock,
763
00:29:41,583 --> 00:29:43,183
Christmas came early,
my friend.
764
00:29:43,317 --> 00:29:45,419
Ooh, is that
the shit Cash is using?
765
00:29:45,553 --> 00:29:48,188
[young Rodney laughs]
Make no mistake,
766
00:29:48,322 --> 00:29:49,857
these are not black beauties.
767
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:52,026
No, sir, this is criss-cross.
768
00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,028
This stuff, my friend,
will sell.
769
00:29:54,529 --> 00:29:57,398
Oh! It's like
the first snow in winter.
770
00:29:57,998 --> 00:30:00,401
-What a beaut!
-That'll knock the pins down.
771
00:30:01,503 --> 00:30:03,370
Care to ski the slopes,
my friend?
772
00:30:03,505 --> 00:30:05,573
[Marty] I'd been a supplier
of drugs for a long time
773
00:30:05,707 --> 00:30:07,174
so I could ignite the fun,
774
00:30:07,308 --> 00:30:09,009
but hi-- hi-- his--
his plans were
775
00:30:09,143 --> 00:30:12,246
how can we make
money and have some fun too?
776
00:30:12,379 --> 00:30:14,181
[sniffing]
777
00:30:14,315 --> 00:30:16,216
-[both moaning in pleasure]
-I will criss-cross this
778
00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:17,585
all across the county.
779
00:30:17,719 --> 00:30:19,219
[Rodney exhales audibly]
Tic-tac-toe.
780
00:30:19,353 --> 00:30:21,288
Across the states we go,
my friend.
781
00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:24,158
But we gotta be quick
about this, pal.
782
00:30:24,726 --> 00:30:27,027
Dude,
I have never let you down, Rod.
783
00:30:28,095 --> 00:30:29,930
You've never
let me down, buddy.
784
00:30:31,498 --> 00:30:34,134
[both clicking tongue
and sniffing]
785
00:30:34,268 --> 00:30:35,336
[interviewer]
How're you feeling, sir?
786
00:30:35,469 --> 00:30:36,571
[Mike] I'm feeling great.
787
00:30:36,705 --> 00:30:38,238
Hungry, about to eat.
788
00:30:38,673 --> 00:30:41,975
I'm excited about the fact
that he's an old honcho
789
00:30:42,109 --> 00:30:43,911
that just is excited
and ready to roll.
790
00:30:44,044 --> 00:30:46,280
Everything he's told us
is stuff we haven't heard
791
00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:48,115
in the news, or most of it,
792
00:30:48,248 --> 00:30:51,352
and only one person would know
all these details.
793
00:30:51,485 --> 00:30:54,021
So, our optimism is rising.
794
00:30:54,154 --> 00:30:56,423
You gotta mind, uh...
[clears throat]
795
00:30:56,558 --> 00:30:57,958
...when I took the jump,
796
00:30:58,092 --> 00:31:00,027
I had a pair of
penny loafers on.
797
00:31:00,729 --> 00:31:03,897
So, uh, I lost one of my
penny loafers on the way down.
798
00:31:04,031 --> 00:31:06,900
[laughs]
799
00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,435
So I ended
up buying
800
00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:10,204
a pair of tennis shoes
on the way out. [laughs]
801
00:31:10,337 --> 00:31:12,607
I had to walk to the road,
go to Woodland
802
00:31:12,741 --> 00:31:14,441
to get the tennis shoes
[indistinct].
803
00:31:14,576 --> 00:31:16,076
Piggly Wiggly,just closing up
804
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:17,579
at ten o'clock at night.
805
00:31:17,712 --> 00:31:19,446
I had to begand plead with the lady
806
00:31:19,581 --> 00:31:23,183
to get the tennis shoes,but then I had shoes.
807
00:31:23,317 --> 00:31:26,053
And so then I took a--I went to a payphone to call
808
00:31:26,186 --> 00:31:28,956
a cab and I took the cab backto Portland to get my car.
809
00:31:30,124 --> 00:31:31,526
57 Chevy.
810
00:31:31,659 --> 00:31:34,395
Two door hardtop
with that--
811
00:31:34,529 --> 00:31:37,398
[Will] Like, the stuff
that he's talking about
812
00:31:37,532 --> 00:31:39,266
is so detailed.
813
00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:44,071
He's like Jesus,
he's either a psychopath,
814
00:31:44,204 --> 00:31:48,976
liar, narcissist,
or it's true.
815
00:31:49,644 --> 00:31:51,078
-It's crazy.
-[man] What is your-- what--
816
00:31:51,211 --> 00:31:52,614
what are you thinking
right now?
817
00:31:52,747 --> 00:31:55,249
-What do you think?
-Honestly, after that?
818
00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:59,253
After that I'm kind of
convinced--
819
00:31:59,386 --> 00:32:01,121
It would just--
he would be going
820
00:32:01,255 --> 00:32:03,090
to such great lengths...
821
00:32:05,392 --> 00:32:09,564
all for, like, a lie, which,
again, is possible,
822
00:32:09,697 --> 00:32:12,700
but I'm starting to--
823
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,968
I'm starting to be convinced.
824
00:32:15,102 --> 00:32:16,538
[Mike] What areyour thoughts now that
825
00:32:16,671 --> 00:32:18,205
you've seenthe confidence he has?
826
00:32:18,807 --> 00:32:20,274
[Tyler] I mean,
I'm pretty, like,
827
00:32:20,407 --> 00:32:21,442
like Will was saying,
he's just, like,
828
00:32:21,576 --> 00:32:24,111
he's either a crazed lunatic
829
00:32:24,244 --> 00:32:27,214
or, you know, or he's telling
the complete truth
830
00:32:27,347 --> 00:32:29,283
and this is all real,
you know?
831
00:32:29,416 --> 00:32:31,118
I mean, there's only two ways
to spin it.
832
00:32:31,251 --> 00:32:32,486
What did you compare him to?
Jesus?
833
00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,221
[Mike]
Right, but-- but don't--
834
00:32:34,354 --> 00:32:36,323
don't you alwayscome back to the fact
835
00:32:36,457 --> 00:32:40,127
that he actuallyis going to take us there
836
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:43,263
and what does he expectto have happened
837
00:32:43,397 --> 00:32:46,166
if we don't find it.
838
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,703
It-- that's what confuses me.What is his end game?
839
00:32:48,837 --> 00:32:50,572
[Rodney] I said
I would never go dig it up
840
00:32:50,705 --> 00:32:52,272
until the timing was right.
841
00:32:52,406 --> 00:32:54,676
Well,
now the time is right.
842
00:32:54,809 --> 00:32:56,544
I have every FBI agent
843
00:32:56,678 --> 00:32:58,245
in the United States
looking for me...
844
00:33:00,347 --> 00:33:02,015
because they gotta prove
their point,
845
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:03,217
they gotta get that man.
846
00:33:06,453 --> 00:33:08,121
They got the rest of 'em.
847
00:33:09,323 --> 00:33:11,291
Killed Pretty Boy Floyd,
848
00:33:11,425 --> 00:33:14,027
Dillinger,
and Baby Face Nell.
849
00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:15,429
They got 'em all.
850
00:33:15,563 --> 00:33:17,464
You don't think
they won't get me too?
851
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:19,266
Well, that's
the way it looks to me.
852
00:33:19,399 --> 00:33:20,735
-I am not stupid.
-[interviewer] But Why did--
853
00:33:20,869 --> 00:33:23,671
Why did you resort
to a life of crime?
854
00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:25,405
I don't know.
855
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:26,741
I-- I robbed Safeway stores,
I used to get
856
00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:28,576
30-40,000
a whack out of them,
857
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:30,512
but, you know, I was a young--
I was a gangster.
858
00:33:30,645 --> 00:33:32,514
I was running around
with a bunch of tough kids.
859
00:33:32,647 --> 00:33:34,549
[Interviewer] And these werearmed robberies?
860
00:33:34,682 --> 00:33:37,150
[Rodney] Yeah, I committed20 or 30 armed robberies.
861
00:33:37,284 --> 00:33:39,386
And I was with McDonaldon about ten of 'em.
862
00:33:39,521 --> 00:33:41,321
[exhaling audibly]
Where are we headed?
863
00:33:42,524 --> 00:33:45,392
[sighs]
As far as we can, Marty.
864
00:33:45,527 --> 00:33:47,361
As far as we can.
865
00:33:47,494 --> 00:33:49,296
[laughs]
866
00:33:49,429 --> 00:33:51,533
Robbery was involved
and I can't say
867
00:33:51,666 --> 00:33:53,400
I wanted to do it
most of the time,
868
00:33:53,535 --> 00:33:57,505
but he's a seller of fun
and a seller of, uh, crazy.
869
00:33:57,639 --> 00:34:00,575
[Young Rodney] Empty that safe
into that bag right now!
870
00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:02,409
-Do it! Every last dime!
-[Cashier] That's all of it!
871
00:34:02,544 --> 00:34:04,144
-That's all we got!
-[young Rodney] Oh, come on,
872
00:34:04,278 --> 00:34:06,046
you stupid ass hippy,
fill that thing up!
873
00:34:06,814 --> 00:34:08,248
We happy, buddy?
874
00:34:09,182 --> 00:34:12,820
[breathing heavily]
875
00:34:13,453 --> 00:34:15,289
I want you to remember
this face.
876
00:34:16,423 --> 00:34:18,726
You're gonna be reading
about it for a long, long time.
877
00:34:19,627 --> 00:34:21,194
Let's move out, sunshine.
878
00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:23,230
♪ Uh huh ♪
879
00:34:23,363 --> 00:34:26,534
[young Rodney whooping]
880
00:34:26,668 --> 00:34:29,269
♪ We gonna tear thismotherfucker up ♪
881
00:34:29,403 --> 00:34:30,805
♪ And burn thismotherfucker down ♪
882
00:34:30,939 --> 00:34:32,540
[young Rodney] Yes!
883
00:34:32,674 --> 00:34:34,509
[Marty] Drugs, guns,
whatever was involved.
884
00:34:34,642 --> 00:34:36,109
I was ready for the ride.
885
00:34:36,878 --> 00:34:38,713
I hope you like Chinese food,
886
00:34:38,846 --> 00:34:40,615
buddy, 'cause we're gonna get
our feast on tonight.
887
00:34:40,748 --> 00:34:42,149
What're you talkin' about?
What-- what Chinese food?
888
00:34:42,282 --> 00:34:43,651
♪ A lot of stories ♪
889
00:34:43,785 --> 00:34:46,821
♪ Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh ♪
890
00:34:46,955 --> 00:34:49,657
Not The Dragon, man,
I eat here twice a week!
891
00:34:51,224 --> 00:34:52,660
Marty...
892
00:34:52,794 --> 00:34:54,596
[laughing] I thought you
wanted to be a gangster!
893
00:34:55,429 --> 00:34:58,298
Rod, have you had
the kung pao here?
894
00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:00,367
Best in town.
895
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,202
And if we do this,
896
00:35:02,336 --> 00:35:03,738
-I can't eat here anymore!
-No,
897
00:35:03,871 --> 00:35:05,272
I haven't had
the kung pao here, Marty.
898
00:35:05,405 --> 00:35:06,774
And who the fuck cares?
899
00:35:06,908 --> 00:35:10,778
Ah, Rod, seriously,
I eat here all the time!
900
00:35:10,912 --> 00:35:13,648
It's sweet, Yuki
will probably recognize me!
901
00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:16,450
Man,
I've been trying to ask her out
902
00:35:16,584 --> 00:35:18,452
the last couple weeks,
man.
903
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,856
Marty, put the mask on,
disguise your voice,
904
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:23,591
and then next week you can
take out
905
00:35:23,725 --> 00:35:25,560
sweet Yuki on a
wonderful date
906
00:35:25,693 --> 00:35:28,328
with all the money
that you rob from her tonight.
907
00:35:28,462 --> 00:35:31,365
[inhales audibly]
If you had had the kung pao,
908
00:35:31,498 --> 00:35:33,200
we wouldn't be doin' this
right now, man.
909
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:34,401
Shut the fuck up, Marty.
910
00:35:34,535 --> 00:35:36,804
[rock music playing]
911
00:35:41,743 --> 00:35:43,477
All right,
hands in the air, sweetheart!
912
00:35:44,378 --> 00:35:46,413
Now, I want you to go back
to that register,
913
00:35:46,547 --> 00:35:49,550
and take every last dollar,
and put it inside this bag.
914
00:35:49,684 --> 00:35:52,787
If you try any funny stuff,
things are gonna get
915
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,288
un-fucking-funny,
916
00:35:55,422 --> 00:35:56,490
real fuckin' quick!
917
00:35:59,861 --> 00:36:01,729
And don't skimp on
those fortune cookies either.
918
00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:10,738
[Marty] Come on, Yuki.
919
00:36:10,872 --> 00:36:12,540
We're not gonna hurt you,
we just need the money.
920
00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:14,474
Marty?
921
00:36:18,646 --> 00:36:20,180
Marty!
922
00:36:20,313 --> 00:36:25,419
♪
923
00:36:25,553 --> 00:36:27,254
[music stops]
924
00:36:27,387 --> 00:36:29,189
I saved
the best for last.
925
00:36:29,322 --> 00:36:31,324
No clerks, no bullshit.
926
00:36:32,225 --> 00:36:34,562
Just good old-fashioned
American takin' stuff.
927
00:36:35,328 --> 00:36:38,331
And you know
how much I love takin' stuff!
928
00:36:44,772 --> 00:36:46,874
[Marty] What if someone comes
in there while we're there?
929
00:36:47,008 --> 00:36:48,776
Oh, fuck, Marty!
930
00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:50,978
These rich fucks only
come here in the summertime!
931
00:36:51,112 --> 00:36:52,613
The rest of the year,
this house is barren,
932
00:36:52,747 --> 00:36:53,915
it's just ready
to get picked off!
933
00:36:54,448 --> 00:36:55,683
Don't you think
we should just quit
934
00:36:55,817 --> 00:36:56,884
while we're ahead?
935
00:36:59,887 --> 00:37:01,388
I will tell you
936
00:37:01,522 --> 00:37:03,558
when we are ahead,
you stupid bitch!
937
00:37:03,691 --> 00:37:05,927
[breathing heavily]
These fucks are ahead.
938
00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:08,796
Now...
939
00:37:11,032 --> 00:37:13,935
picking off two places
in one night is child's play!
940
00:37:15,703 --> 00:37:17,004
But you pick off
three places...
941
00:37:18,506 --> 00:37:19,907
That's a spree, buddy.
942
00:37:20,708 --> 00:37:22,409
That's a spree.
943
00:37:23,343 --> 00:37:24,746
Four-- three places?
944
00:37:25,245 --> 00:37:27,682
[Rodney] Here's a-- here's
thing on me, right here.
945
00:37:27,815 --> 00:37:31,418
November 24, 1971,
a man called himself
946
00:37:31,552 --> 00:37:33,020
Dan Cooper. Yeah, I did.
947
00:37:33,554 --> 00:37:35,523
The name came
from Jackie Cooper,
948
00:37:35,656 --> 00:37:36,991
the first-- last name.
949
00:37:37,125 --> 00:37:38,993
And the front name
was my cousin, Dan.
950
00:37:39,127 --> 00:37:40,762
[interviewer]
Who's Jackie Cooper?
951
00:37:40,895 --> 00:37:42,395
Movie star.
952
00:37:42,530 --> 00:37:44,565
Played in, uh, Frank James in,
953
00:37:44,699 --> 00:37:48,603
uh, one of the Ford brothers
in a-- in a movie.
954
00:37:48,736 --> 00:37:50,470
Every single question
we asked Rodney
955
00:37:50,605 --> 00:37:52,640
about the crime,
he had an answer for.
956
00:37:52,774 --> 00:37:55,576
And he didn't have to stutter
or stammer or think about it.
957
00:37:55,710 --> 00:37:58,445
It came out very naturally,
like it was the truth.
958
00:37:58,579 --> 00:38:00,581
We just elevated up.
959
00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:03,885
I handed her the note
and then she says,
960
00:38:04,018 --> 00:38:05,653
"I can't go out with you."
961
00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:07,822
I says,
"You better read the note."
962
00:38:07,955 --> 00:38:09,422
[Carlos] She-- she thought
you were asking her for a date?
963
00:38:09,557 --> 00:38:10,758
[Rodney]
Asking her for a date, yeah.
964
00:38:11,859 --> 00:38:13,761
[chuckles]
Not very picky, are you?
965
00:38:13,895 --> 00:38:16,329
-I'm flattered, but married.
-[Rodney laughs]
966
00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:17,532
[Carlos]
What did the note say?
967
00:38:17,665 --> 00:38:18,866
Uh, it says I have,
968
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,935
uh, a briefcase
full of dynamite,
969
00:38:21,068 --> 00:38:23,805
explosives,
and if I don't get
970
00:38:23,938 --> 00:38:25,606
what I want,
I'll blow the plane up.
971
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,708
[Carlos]
And how did she react?
972
00:38:27,842 --> 00:38:29,577
She says, "Oh, my God."
973
00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:31,444
She just ran right up there
as fast as she could.
974
00:38:31,579 --> 00:38:33,614
Not run,
but briskly went up there.
975
00:38:33,748 --> 00:38:34,749
[Carlos]
Up to the cockpit?
976
00:38:34,882 --> 00:38:36,017
-Yeah.
-[Carlos] Yeah.
977
00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:38,986
And then, uh,
that's when I had trouble.
978
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,421
Lawrence Finegold.
979
00:38:41,556 --> 00:38:42,790
[Carlos] One of the things
980
00:38:42,924 --> 00:38:44,759
that-- that I found
interesting,
981
00:38:44,892 --> 00:38:46,493
uh, as Rodney was filling in
the details of the incident
982
00:38:46,627 --> 00:38:48,996
was an interaction
with a young attorney
983
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:50,865
out of Seattle
named Finegold.
984
00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:52,733
He started coming back
at me and I came right up to
985
00:38:52,867 --> 00:38:54,702
him and said, "You better
sit down and shut up.
986
00:38:54,836 --> 00:38:56,771
No funny stuff.He goes, "What is this?"
987
00:38:56,904 --> 00:38:58,873
I says, "Your toupee's not--not straight on your head.
988
00:38:59,006 --> 00:39:00,708
I acted, like,a little bit crazy but--
989
00:39:00,842 --> 00:39:02,677
I would sit down
and I would straighten out
990
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:04,612
that fuckin' toupee
if I were you.
991
00:39:04,745 --> 00:39:06,379
No funny stuff.
992
00:39:06,514 --> 00:39:07,882
[Mike] Rodney told him to,
you know, sit down
993
00:39:08,015 --> 00:39:09,984
and that his hairpiece
was slightly ajar,
994
00:39:10,117 --> 00:39:11,953
which it-- it appears
995
00:39:12,086 --> 00:39:13,888
that maybe he was wearing
a hairpiece.
996
00:39:14,021 --> 00:39:15,523
So, to me, I thought
that was a very,
997
00:39:15,656 --> 00:39:18,025
very specific detail,
and later,
998
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,628
it turns out
that Finegold acknowledged
999
00:39:20,761 --> 00:39:23,064
his interaction with Rodney.
1000
00:39:23,197 --> 00:39:25,633
My 25th anniversary
I called him on the phone
1001
00:39:25,766 --> 00:39:28,368
from Seattle and said
I'm DB Cooper and he goes,
1002
00:39:28,501 --> 00:39:29,770
"Okay, if you're DB Cooper,
tell me what--
1003
00:39:29,904 --> 00:39:31,606
what I wanna hear."
1004
00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:32,907
and I said, "What
do you wanna hear and he goes,
1005
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,474
"You know
what you told me."
1006
00:39:34,609 --> 00:39:36,077
and so I told him
the same thing
1007
00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:37,578
and he says, "Oh, my God,
you're still alive."
1008
00:39:38,045 --> 00:39:39,981
-[Mike] And they're all 20's!
-I got
1009
00:39:40,114 --> 00:39:42,049
193,000 something dollars
buried on the beach.
1010
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:44,384
[Carlos chuckles]
And we're about to go find it.
1011
00:39:44,518 --> 00:39:46,821
By a big,
black onyx rock.
1012
00:39:46,954 --> 00:39:49,891
So the beauty is gonna be us
going from this point
1013
00:39:50,024 --> 00:39:51,559
right now,
from these interviews,
1014
00:39:51,692 --> 00:39:54,729
to the site where he was
at that time and,
1015
00:39:54,862 --> 00:39:58,099
um, hopefully putting
a bow on his story.
1016
00:39:58,232 --> 00:39:59,967
Right now we need
to button up
1017
00:40:00,101 --> 00:40:03,137
and get it together and go out
and-- and track it down.
1018
00:40:03,271 --> 00:40:05,640
All right,
let's go dig it up!
1019
00:40:05,773 --> 00:40:06,774
[Mike]
Are you feeling confident?
1020
00:40:06,908 --> 00:40:08,542
I'm confident. Yeah.
1021
00:40:10,745 --> 00:40:13,446
Well, the old Chinamen say,
"Can you dig it?"
1022
00:40:13,581 --> 00:40:15,182
And then you're digging it!
1023
00:40:15,316 --> 00:40:18,085
So we're going treasure hunting
and just dig it up!
1024
00:40:18,219 --> 00:40:19,987
[Mike] How 'bout you?
Stressed?
1025
00:40:20,121 --> 00:40:22,924
[Wes]
This shit is super crazy.
1026
00:40:23,057 --> 00:40:26,661
I'm excited and he's got
some details that are just--
1027
00:40:26,794 --> 00:40:29,864
I mean, he told-- he told
the lawyer
1028
00:40:30,298 --> 00:40:32,133
your toupee is crooked.
[laughs]
1029
00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:34,802
Like, that's a detail
and a half if it's real.
1030
00:40:34,936 --> 00:40:37,605
No, you don't wanna marry
an outlaw,
1031
00:40:37,738 --> 00:40:39,006
we have trouble,
we have to hide
1032
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:40,808
and everything,
you don't need that.
1033
00:40:42,610 --> 00:40:44,145
Well, now I'm gonna
have to really hide
1034
00:40:44,278 --> 00:40:45,680
when I find the money.
1035
00:40:47,281 --> 00:40:49,050
[Wes] So if we do find it,
do you think
1036
00:40:49,183 --> 00:40:51,218
your son would be excited
to hear that you found it?
1037
00:40:51,852 --> 00:40:53,988
Well,
he's my flesh and blood.
1038
00:40:54,889 --> 00:40:58,993
Anybody that's related to me
wants some of the money.
1039
00:41:02,863 --> 00:41:04,632
That's the way it works,
I guess.
1040
00:41:07,068 --> 00:41:09,737
It's too bad that
the mother did that to me and--
1041
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,138
[interviewer] Were there
any particular women
1042
00:41:11,272 --> 00:41:12,840
in your life at this time?
1043
00:41:12,974 --> 00:41:14,909
Romana Lisa Capps.
1044
00:41:15,042 --> 00:41:16,811
I met her through, uh,
high school.
1045
00:41:16,944 --> 00:41:18,679
I think there was just
something in me that was scared
1046
00:41:18,813 --> 00:41:21,182
of how lawless he was,
but that loved it too.
1047
00:41:21,682 --> 00:41:24,552
Goddamn it, I love pancakes!
1048
00:41:25,219 --> 00:41:26,620
If you love 'em so much,
1049
00:41:26,754 --> 00:41:27,955
why'd you give me
the last piece?
1050
00:41:28,089 --> 00:41:29,924
Because
I might kind of like you.
1051
00:41:30,057 --> 00:41:31,726
Wow!
Everybody hear that?
1052
00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:33,194
Romana Lisa Capps likes me.
1053
00:41:33,327 --> 00:41:34,695
-She loves me!
-Oh my--
1054
00:41:35,463 --> 00:41:37,031
[Romana] Are you surprised
that someone
1055
00:41:37,164 --> 00:41:38,866
in the Capps family
actually likes you?
1056
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,135
Yeah, I am.
It's a huge accomplishment.
1057
00:41:41,268 --> 00:41:43,704
Maybe.
No, I definitely am.
1058
00:41:46,674 --> 00:41:48,209
But, um, I gotta ask you
something.
1059
00:41:48,342 --> 00:41:49,844
I heard a rumor,
um--
1060
00:41:51,245 --> 00:41:53,147
I heard your dad wrapped
the family car around a tree
1061
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,182
last week on 21st street,
is that true?
1062
00:41:55,616 --> 00:41:57,985
Yeah. I mean,
I guess everybody knows
1063
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,054
he's the town drunk now.
1064
00:42:00,187 --> 00:42:01,956
No one thinks
your dad's the town drunk.
1065
00:42:03,090 --> 00:42:04,525
He made a mistake,
1066
00:42:04,658 --> 00:42:06,093
we all make mistakes,
you know?
1067
00:42:06,894 --> 00:42:09,196
Life goes on. Who cares?
1068
00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:13,868
Plus, think of the upside.
1069
00:42:14,668 --> 00:42:16,637
At least now,
the whole town knows
1070
00:42:16,771 --> 00:42:17,972
that at the Capps house,
1071
00:42:18,105 --> 00:42:20,107
the liquor cabinet
is well-stocked.
1072
00:42:20,241 --> 00:42:22,176
-[Romana laughs]
-Huh?
1073
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:24,178
Hmm.
1074
00:42:24,311 --> 00:42:26,814
Well maybe his liquor cabinet
should be our next destination.
1075
00:42:27,248 --> 00:42:30,117
Uh-oh.
You getting a bad idea?
1076
00:42:30,251 --> 00:42:32,820
Well, this one hearkens back
to the greats
1077
00:42:32,953 --> 00:42:36,557
and it's called
the ol' dine and dash.
1078
00:42:38,993 --> 00:42:40,628
Oh,
you're gonna pull this one off?
1079
00:42:40,761 --> 00:42:42,096
-[Romana] Mm-hmm.
-The big heist?
1080
00:42:51,806 --> 00:42:53,941
Ooh!
What the hell was that?
1081
00:42:54,075 --> 00:42:55,843
I just treated you
to the best pancakes
1082
00:42:55,976 --> 00:42:57,578
-of your goddamn life.
-[Rodney laughs]
1083
00:42:57,711 --> 00:42:59,580
That may be so,
but if you keep this shit up,
1084
00:42:59,713 --> 00:43:01,682
you're going to end up
a criminal, missy.
1085
00:43:01,816 --> 00:43:03,250
Oh,
has this little escapade
1086
00:43:03,384 --> 00:43:05,886
-reminded you of someone?
-Yeah, it did--
1087
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:07,888
♪ You got my attention,baby ♪
1088
00:43:08,022 --> 00:43:09,757
Come on, we have a
liquor cabinet to raid.
1089
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:11,692
[Rodney] She didn't like
who I am or what I am,
1090
00:43:11,826 --> 00:43:13,160
but she just pushed
it aside
1091
00:43:13,294 --> 00:43:15,329
that I'm a little wilder
than most people.
1092
00:43:15,463 --> 00:43:16,931
Always been wild.
1093
00:43:17,064 --> 00:43:18,299
[Romana]
Have some of this.
1094
00:43:18,432 --> 00:43:20,267
[both laugh]
1095
00:43:20,401 --> 00:43:21,969
Hair of the dog,
what've we got?
1096
00:43:22,103 --> 00:43:23,337
Ooh! Number seven,
now we're talkin'.
1097
00:43:23,471 --> 00:43:25,206
-[Romana laughs]
-[young Rodney] Hmm.
1098
00:43:26,173 --> 00:43:27,308
Ah!
1099
00:43:28,342 --> 00:43:30,845
Thank you, Mr. Capps.
[sighs]
1100
00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:34,315
You got shit on your mind,
don't you?
1101
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:37,852
Yeah.
1102
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,754
Your pops?
1103
00:43:42,323 --> 00:43:44,391
Yeah. It's just--
1104
00:43:47,695 --> 00:43:50,064
It's just hard to talk about
my father or my family.
1105
00:43:51,699 --> 00:43:52,833
I understand.
1106
00:43:53,568 --> 00:43:57,338
But I feel
really free with you.
1107
00:43:59,406 --> 00:44:00,808
That's good.
1108
00:44:00,941 --> 00:44:02,276
-[Romana laughs]
-That's real good.
1109
00:44:03,444 --> 00:44:05,246
-I'm a free guy.
-[Romana laughs]
1110
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:08,782
Look, forget about your dad.
1111
00:44:08,916 --> 00:44:10,885
Forget about
what the town is sayin'.
1112
00:44:11,018 --> 00:44:12,853
They're not sayin' shit.
They don't know anything.
1113
00:44:12,987 --> 00:44:14,755
No one knows the ins
and outs of a person's home
1114
00:44:14,889 --> 00:44:16,657
or how they run it.
1115
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:18,125
No one knows your family,
I don't know your family.
1116
00:44:18,759 --> 00:44:20,761
All right,
think about it like this.
1117
00:44:20,895 --> 00:44:22,129
This is gonna sound
real corny.
1118
00:44:22,696 --> 00:44:25,065
-In the car of life-- okay?
-Okay.
1119
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:27,935
Every past version of us
is in the car,
1120
00:44:28,068 --> 00:44:30,771
and what I mean by that
is people screw up,
1121
00:44:30,905 --> 00:44:32,306
and hopefully they
learn from that shit.
1122
00:44:33,941 --> 00:44:35,910
The key
that no one tells you...
1123
00:44:36,043 --> 00:44:37,878
is that when you're
driving in this car of life
1124
00:44:38,012 --> 00:44:39,413
down the highway of life...
1125
00:44:40,247 --> 00:44:42,816
all those past versions
of yourself...
1126
00:44:44,218 --> 00:44:45,419
they're in the car
with you.
1127
00:44:46,387 --> 00:44:48,956
And the key, the secret...
1128
00:44:49,089 --> 00:44:50,424
is to not let
any of 'em drive.
1129
00:44:53,861 --> 00:44:55,829
Does that mean
I'm with a safe driver?
1130
00:44:55,963 --> 00:44:57,264
[young Rodney exhales audibly]
1131
00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:01,735
You're with a safe driver,
I can assure you that.
1132
00:45:01,869 --> 00:45:04,071
[Rodney] And we were goin' outand we loved each other.
1133
00:45:04,205 --> 00:45:05,739
Her dad told meto marry her,
1134
00:45:05,873 --> 00:45:07,174
or I'd getshotgunned to death
1135
00:45:07,308 --> 00:45:08,876
and we had a babyon the way
1136
00:45:09,009 --> 00:45:09,977
so I took his advice andmarried her.
1137
00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:11,378
Anyway, I loved her.
1138
00:45:12,947 --> 00:45:17,851
♪ You were made for love
1139
00:45:21,155 --> 00:45:27,228
♪ And we fell into
1140
00:45:30,464 --> 00:45:35,903
♪ Back whenthe stars began to shine ♪
1141
00:45:36,036 --> 00:45:37,371
You have
any idea where we are?
1142
00:45:37,505 --> 00:45:40,207
No. Rod, you know
I don't like surprises!
1143
00:45:40,341 --> 00:45:41,408
[young Rodney]
It's a good surprise,
1144
00:45:41,543 --> 00:45:43,143
no bad surprise, okay?
1145
00:45:43,277 --> 00:45:44,411
-You ready?
-[Romana] Okay, yes, I'm ready.
1146
00:45:44,546 --> 00:45:47,047
-Are you ready?
-Yes, yes, yes.
1147
00:45:47,181 --> 00:45:49,917
Okay. Three, two, One.
1148
00:45:50,484 --> 00:45:53,087
Oh, my God, Rod!
[gasping]
1149
00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:54,822
[young Rodney]
I know, it's a gourmet meal!
1150
00:45:54,955 --> 00:45:58,225
[Romana laughs]
This is beautiful!
1151
00:46:00,961 --> 00:46:02,463
Well, the old
man did have one thing right.
1152
00:46:06,467 --> 00:46:08,035
Will you marry me?
1153
00:46:08,737 --> 00:46:10,938
Oh, my God,
I can't wait to be
1154
00:46:11,071 --> 00:46:13,040
-Mrs. Rodney Bonnifield!
-Yes?
1155
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:14,241
-[Romana] Yes!
-Yes?
1156
00:46:14,375 --> 00:46:15,442
[Romana] Yes!
1157
00:46:18,178 --> 00:46:20,548
[music fades]
1158
00:46:20,682 --> 00:46:22,416
Oh, man, when Rodney
and Romana got together,
1159
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:23,984
it was a great thing.
1160
00:46:24,118 --> 00:46:25,386
It was a great
thing for Rodney.
1161
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,322
I never seen him that happy.
1162
00:46:28,455 --> 00:46:30,391
Marty McFerguson
up to the t-box.
1163
00:46:30,525 --> 00:46:33,494
Averaging 350 yards
per drive.
1164
00:46:33,628 --> 00:46:35,129
[young Rodney]
You're a little pink
1165
00:46:35,262 --> 00:46:36,163
around the edges,
aren't you, Marty?
1166
00:46:36,297 --> 00:46:37,331
[Marty] Keeps me goin'.
1167
00:46:39,567 --> 00:46:41,402
You take your vitamins today,
Marty?
1168
00:46:41,536 --> 00:46:44,371
-[Marty] Everyday.
-Good. [laughs]
1169
00:46:44,506 --> 00:46:46,006
Doesn't get
much better than this, buddy.
1170
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:48,075
-[young Rodney sighs]
-Look at this!
1171
00:46:48,208 --> 00:46:49,843
[young Rodney]
Normally, on any given day,
1172
00:46:49,977 --> 00:46:51,579
Marty,
I'd agree with you.
1173
00:46:51,713 --> 00:46:53,347
But today is not a
normal day, my friend.
1174
00:46:53,782 --> 00:46:55,282
I got some good news.
1175
00:46:55,717 --> 00:46:58,419
-[Marty] What?
-You're gonna be an uncle.
1176
00:47:00,154 --> 00:47:02,323
I-- I'm gonna get adopted?
1177
00:47:02,456 --> 00:47:03,857
No, Marty.
1178
00:47:03,991 --> 00:47:05,359
I'm gonna be a father!
1179
00:47:06,393 --> 00:47:07,461
With Romana?
1180
00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:10,464
No, with your mother--
yes, with Romana!
1181
00:47:10,598 --> 00:47:14,501
-Romana Lisa Capps!
-Rod, man! Look at you!
1182
00:47:14,636 --> 00:47:16,136
-We're having a family!
-[Marty] Oh!
1183
00:47:16,270 --> 00:47:17,905
-Man!
-[young Rodney laughs]
1184
00:47:18,439 --> 00:47:22,943
The new man Rodney Bonnifield
family man.
1185
00:47:26,113 --> 00:47:29,016
-Yes!
-[sighs] I'll take that.
1186
00:47:29,149 --> 00:47:31,852
-A new man.
-[young Rodney laughs]
1187
00:47:31,985 --> 00:47:33,387
[Marty] So what's next
for the family man?
1188
00:47:33,921 --> 00:47:35,489
[young Rodney] Well,
I gotta clean up my act.
1189
00:47:35,623 --> 00:47:37,257
I can't be doin'
what I've been doing up here
1190
00:47:37,391 --> 00:47:38,425
and Washington's
pretty much tapped out.
1191
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,060
So, I'm gonna be working
1192
00:47:40,194 --> 00:47:41,095
down in California
for a little bit.
1193
00:47:41,228 --> 00:47:43,598
♪
1194
00:47:43,732 --> 00:47:45,899
[Rodney] The Boinswas lettin' everybody go.
1195
00:47:46,033 --> 00:47:47,535
No jobs here,so we went down there,
1196
00:47:47,669 --> 00:47:49,269
worked at Carol's Cabinets.
1197
00:47:49,403 --> 00:47:51,138
♪ And it's hardto call it home ♪
1198
00:47:51,271 --> 00:47:53,575
♪ When it's rainingall day long ♪
1199
00:47:53,708 --> 00:47:56,377
♪ And you knowit's all been done ♪
1200
00:47:56,511 --> 00:47:58,613
♪ And you can't get youno sun ♪
1201
00:47:58,747 --> 00:48:01,549
♪ No, no, see,I got bigger plans ♪
1202
00:48:01,683 --> 00:48:03,951
♪ Something to holdin my hands... ♪
1203
00:48:04,084 --> 00:48:05,419
You here for castle tickets?
1204
00:48:06,487 --> 00:48:08,656
If you're selling magic
I'm buying.
1205
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:11,593
♪ Going wherethe sun shines ♪
1206
00:48:11,726 --> 00:48:13,293
What is this?
1207
00:48:13,427 --> 00:48:15,295
This is magic
that's gonna send your ass
1208
00:48:15,429 --> 00:48:17,331
over the fuckin' moon.
1209
00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:20,100
-How much?
-For you?
1210
00:48:20,234 --> 00:48:22,537
-$100.
-100 bucks?
1211
00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:25,205
I can get this much
back up in Seattle for $40!
1212
00:48:25,339 --> 00:48:27,609
Look around, does it look like
we're in Seattle?
1213
00:48:27,742 --> 00:48:30,244
You got palm
trees in fuckin' Seattle?
1214
00:48:30,377 --> 00:48:32,547
Does Marlon Brando live
in Seattle?
1215
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,914
100 bucks.
1216
00:48:34,047 --> 00:48:35,182
Take it or beat it.
1217
00:48:36,984 --> 00:48:39,052
That's all I got-
1218
00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:42,657
Hey! Where's a guy go to have
a good time around here?
1219
00:48:42,791 --> 00:48:44,592
Excuse me, do I know you?
1220
00:48:44,726 --> 00:48:48,530
♪ Where the sunshinegon' get me high ♪
1221
00:48:48,663 --> 00:48:50,632
[exhales audibly]
1222
00:48:50,765 --> 00:48:54,034
♪ I'm goin' where the sunshinegon' get me high ♪
1223
00:48:54,168 --> 00:48:55,537
[exhales audibly]
1224
00:48:56,638 --> 00:48:58,105
[Romana] He started just doin'
1225
00:48:58,238 --> 00:49:00,207
a lot of drugs
and-- and drinking a lot
1226
00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:03,076
and, uh, would disappear
for days on end and--
1227
00:49:03,711 --> 00:49:05,179
I'm-- I'm not gonna raise
1228
00:49:05,312 --> 00:49:07,247
my kid
how my parents raised me.
1229
00:49:07,381 --> 00:49:09,684
[phone ringing]
1230
00:49:09,818 --> 00:49:11,118
[Romana] Ooh.
1231
00:49:13,220 --> 00:49:15,422
[ringing continues]
1232
00:49:15,557 --> 00:49:17,592
-Hello?
-[young Rodney] Hi!
1233
00:49:17,725 --> 00:49:19,026
I'm calling
for the most gorgeous woman
1234
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:20,562
in the entire world.
1235
00:49:20,695 --> 00:49:24,031
Is that one of your
brother's pick up lines?
1236
00:49:24,164 --> 00:49:26,668
[Young Rodney] Ouch, Romana.
1237
00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,469
I'd saywe're well beyond that.
1238
00:49:28,603 --> 00:49:30,270
I mean,
I thought we were,
1239
00:49:30,404 --> 00:49:33,207
but someone doesn't know
how to pick up the phone.
1240
00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:35,209
[Young Rodney] I'm hereworking for you, babe.
1241
00:49:35,342 --> 00:49:36,711
For the both of you.
1242
00:49:36,845 --> 00:49:39,379
-How's little Rod?
-[Ramona] He's kicking.
1243
00:49:40,548 --> 00:49:42,182
I cannot wait to feel that.
1244
00:49:42,316 --> 00:49:44,051
I'm so excited
for you to get here.
1245
00:49:44,184 --> 00:49:46,153
I just know
that this kid is gonna have
1246
00:49:46,286 --> 00:49:48,188
your eyes and,
Lord willing,
1247
00:49:48,322 --> 00:49:51,024
he doesn't have my ears,
and I think he'll be okay.
1248
00:49:51,158 --> 00:49:53,126
-Hm.
-[Young Rodney] But seriously.
1249
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,162
Being in your arms again
will be absolute Heaven
1250
00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:56,698
and I sure cannot wait.
1251
00:49:56,831 --> 00:49:58,766
Oh. Now?
1252
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:00,702
Now you miss me?
1253
00:50:00,835 --> 00:50:04,071
Come on, babe.What do you want from me?
1254
00:50:04,204 --> 00:50:05,573
I'm just trying to doright by ya.
1255
00:50:06,641 --> 00:50:08,041
[Ramona]
It's late, Rod.
1256
00:50:08,175 --> 00:50:09,544
I need to go.
1257
00:50:09,677 --> 00:50:10,512
I havean early flight tomorrow.
1258
00:50:10,645 --> 00:50:11,713
Love you.
1259
00:50:13,313 --> 00:50:14,516
[phone clicks]
1260
00:50:17,552 --> 00:50:19,019
You all right?
1261
00:50:19,654 --> 00:50:21,054
Yeah.
1262
00:50:21,188 --> 00:50:22,289
It's about time
you let him know.
1263
00:50:23,658 --> 00:50:25,459
-I know.
-He needs to know.
1264
00:50:26,694 --> 00:50:28,295
When things
started getting fucked up
1265
00:50:28,428 --> 00:50:31,098
with Rodney and I, uh,
he heard from my brother
1266
00:50:31,231 --> 00:50:33,801
at the mechanic shop
and started coming around more
1267
00:50:33,935 --> 00:50:37,237
and maybe the truth is that--
1268
00:50:37,805 --> 00:50:41,208
I didn't know for a while,
but I had a suspicion
1269
00:50:41,341 --> 00:50:43,645
that it was
actually Wayne Shannon's.
1270
00:50:43,778 --> 00:50:49,617
♪
1271
00:50:49,751 --> 00:50:50,785
Hey!
1272
00:50:51,786 --> 00:50:54,154
-You're here!
-Hi, Rod.
1273
00:50:54,722 --> 00:50:55,790
I can't stay long.
1274
00:50:57,357 --> 00:50:58,726
What're you talking about,
you just got into town.
1275
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,294
Yeah, I wanted to talk
to you in person.
1276
00:51:00,427 --> 00:51:02,129
Do you wanna have a seat?
1277
00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:04,264
-Yeah--
-Okay.
1278
00:51:04,398 --> 00:51:06,133
-[Romana] Chat?
-Yeah. Sure, what--
1279
00:51:06,266 --> 00:51:07,669
What's up, babe?
1280
00:51:07,802 --> 00:51:09,704
You're always drinking
God knows how much,
1281
00:51:09,837 --> 00:51:11,706
staying out 'til
the wee hours of the morning,
1282
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:13,708
barely
remembering to call me.
1283
00:51:13,841 --> 00:51:15,543
I am pregnant, Rod.
1284
00:51:16,544 --> 00:51:18,178
I know you're pregnant.
1285
00:51:18,646 --> 00:51:20,782
And that's why I'm down here
trying to earn a living for us.
1286
00:51:20,915 --> 00:51:23,350
[Romana] Yeah, and drink half
of it away while you're at it?
1287
00:51:23,483 --> 00:51:26,821
We are not in love, Rod.
We got married for the baby.
1288
00:51:26,955 --> 00:51:28,488
-[young Rodney] Romana--
-And I'll be damned
1289
00:51:28,623 --> 00:51:30,123
if I spend
the rest of my life unhappy
1290
00:51:30,257 --> 00:51:31,391
just because I got pregnant.
1291
00:51:31,893 --> 00:51:34,529
Oh, hon, I'm trying to do
the right thing here.
1292
00:51:35,063 --> 00:51:36,631
I made an honest woman
out of you.
1293
00:51:36,764 --> 00:51:38,498
Yes, I got you pregnant,
but you're down here
1294
00:51:38,633 --> 00:51:40,200
and we're gonna be
a family together.
1295
00:51:41,035 --> 00:51:43,571
I don't even know
if it's yours, Rod.
1296
00:51:45,773 --> 00:51:46,874
[young Rodney] Oh.
1297
00:51:48,576 --> 00:51:50,110
[sighs] Okay.
1298
00:51:51,012 --> 00:51:53,480
I know what this is about.
This is about Wayne Shannon.
1299
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:55,883
You're fucking
Wayne Shannon.
1300
00:51:56,017 --> 00:51:57,284
[Romana]
It's none of your business.
1301
00:51:57,417 --> 00:51:58,786
I think
it is my business!
1302
00:51:59,252 --> 00:52:01,689
-It's about us!
-There is no us!
1303
00:52:01,823 --> 00:52:03,825
I am done, Rod. I am done.
1304
00:52:03,958 --> 00:52:07,361
-Do you hear that?
-Romana,
1305
00:52:07,494 --> 00:52:11,198
I moved my ass
all the way to LA for this.
1306
00:52:12,533 --> 00:52:13,668
For you.
1307
00:52:15,235 --> 00:52:16,303
For the goddamn baby.
1308
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,240
And this is what you do?
1309
00:52:21,876 --> 00:52:23,410
[Rodney] She thoughtshe could talk to me about
1310
00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:24,612
having sex with a guy.
1311
00:52:24,746 --> 00:52:26,413
Well, you don't talk to me
1312
00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:27,414
when you have sexwith somebody else.
1313
00:52:27,548 --> 00:52:29,249
I flipped out.
1314
00:52:29,383 --> 00:52:30,752
I took a chairand threw it right through
1315
00:52:30,885 --> 00:52:31,886
the-- right throughthe side window.
1316
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:33,521
I was, uh, very upset.
1317
00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:35,389
I thoughtthat she loved me,
1318
00:52:35,523 --> 00:52:37,257
but then she left mebecause of my temper.
1319
00:52:38,291 --> 00:52:39,827
[Kevin]
What the fuck, Rodney?
1320
00:52:39,961 --> 00:52:41,763
I told you no more bullshit!
1321
00:52:41,896 --> 00:52:44,799
-You're gone!
-Fuck you, Kevin!
1322
00:52:44,932 --> 00:52:46,701
That's the worst pain
I've ever felt
1323
00:52:46,834 --> 00:52:48,368
in my life,
is losing her.
1324
00:52:48,502 --> 00:52:50,538
Absolutely pain
that you wouldn't believe.
1325
00:52:50,672 --> 00:52:52,339
'Cause I loved her.
1326
00:52:52,472 --> 00:52:57,712
♪ I been walking, oh, oh ♪
1327
00:52:57,845 --> 00:53:02,282
♪ Down this lonely road ♪
1328
00:53:04,418 --> 00:53:10,591
♪ Trying to find my way, mmm
1329
00:53:10,725 --> 00:53:14,261
♪ Find my way back home ♪
1330
00:53:17,865 --> 00:53:21,936
♪ Sleepless nights, yeah
1331
00:53:23,538 --> 00:53:27,742
♪ Cryin' 'bout my bare side
1332
00:53:29,911 --> 00:53:34,515
♪ Oh, trying to get my mind
1333
00:53:36,316 --> 00:53:40,722
♪ Off of your love, mmm
1334
00:53:40,855 --> 00:53:45,860
♪ Sweet baby, take me back ♪
1335
00:53:45,993 --> 00:53:50,297
♪ Oh, take me back ♪
1336
00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:54,736
♪ To the good times ♪
1337
00:53:54,869 --> 00:53:59,707
♪ Where my heart belongs ♪
1338
00:54:01,743 --> 00:54:04,812
♪ Oh, on the open road
1339
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:14,354
♪ Night can be so coldon this journey ♪
1340
00:54:14,488 --> 00:54:18,893
♪ Going up this open road ♪
1341
00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:24,832
[music fades]
1342
00:54:24,966 --> 00:54:26,834
[Rodney] So I got backto Federal Way in Washington.
1343
00:54:26,968 --> 00:54:29,469
I was not very rightin the mind at the time.
1344
00:54:29,604 --> 00:54:31,304
She knewI was looking for her.
1345
00:54:31,438 --> 00:54:32,807
They didn't doa damn thing in those days
1346
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,441
with somebodystealin' your kid.
1347
00:54:34,575 --> 00:54:36,778
So, be honest.
1348
00:54:37,612 --> 00:54:39,046
How'd you like the movie?
1349
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:41,516
Well,
Eastwood was dreamy
1350
00:54:41,649 --> 00:54:43,684
and I like a little violence.
1351
00:54:43,818 --> 00:54:46,654
The baby doesn't
really like the violence.
1352
00:54:46,788 --> 00:54:49,624
[Wayne] Oh, honey.
You seem cold.
1353
00:54:49,757 --> 00:54:53,694
♪
1354
00:54:53,828 --> 00:54:54,996
And about the violence.
1355
00:54:55,129 --> 00:54:57,430
Just like Dirty Harry,
1356
00:54:57,565 --> 00:54:59,332
I'm gonna keep you...
1357
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:03,771
and this baby safe forever.
1358
00:55:03,905 --> 00:55:05,606
Don't you worry.
1359
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:07,775
I love you, Wayne Shannon.
1360
00:55:07,909 --> 00:55:09,911
[Wayne] I love you,
Romana Lisa Capps.
1361
00:55:13,681 --> 00:55:16,584
Wayne Shannon,
you're a dead man.
1362
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:24,491
They tried to talk to me,
my cousins and stuff,
1363
00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:25,960
and I just couldn't take it.
1364
00:55:26,093 --> 00:55:29,063
I was just-- madly in love
with this woman.
1365
00:55:29,964 --> 00:55:31,398
Had a baby by her.
1366
00:55:32,166 --> 00:55:33,701
And, uh, we split up.
1367
00:55:34,101 --> 00:55:37,370
His, uh,
wife at the time had left him
1368
00:55:37,505 --> 00:55:38,773
and then had actually stated
1369
00:55:38,906 --> 00:55:41,542
that the child
that they had together,
1370
00:55:41,676 --> 00:55:43,678
or that he assumed
they had together,
1371
00:55:43,811 --> 00:55:45,580
probably wasn't his.
1372
00:55:45,713 --> 00:55:48,850
And I think that at that time,
he-- he lost his mind,
1373
00:55:48,983 --> 00:55:50,885
the wheels came off
at that point.
1374
00:55:51,018 --> 00:55:52,419
-[young Rodney snorts]
-[Marty] Hey, I couldn't find
1375
00:55:52,553 --> 00:55:54,487
your car, man--
Holy shit.
1376
00:55:54,622 --> 00:55:57,625
-[young Rodney coughs]
-You all right, man?
1377
00:55:57,758 --> 00:55:59,727
[young Rodney] Oh-- yeah.
1378
00:55:59,861 --> 00:56:01,428
What the fuck's goin' on?
1379
00:56:02,797 --> 00:56:05,900
[young Rodney]
Well, Romana came down.
1380
00:56:07,568 --> 00:56:10,571
And, uh,
she's leavin' me.
1381
00:56:13,808 --> 00:56:15,076
Sneaking around
with Wayne Shannon.
1382
00:56:18,112 --> 00:56:19,714
Yeah.
1383
00:56:19,847 --> 00:56:22,149
[exhales] So... [chuckles]
1384
00:56:23,084 --> 00:56:27,387
...I have devised a plan
and with your help
1385
00:56:27,521 --> 00:56:29,489
it's gonna work
and I'll get her back.
1386
00:56:29,624 --> 00:56:32,159
Honestly. Let it go.
1387
00:56:32,293 --> 00:56:33,895
I've never heard
of a broad changing her mind
1388
00:56:34,028 --> 00:56:35,997
after stepping out
with a new man.
1389
00:56:37,464 --> 00:56:38,966
[snorting]
1390
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,034
[Marty] Maybe you're hitting
that shit too hard, man.
1391
00:56:40,167 --> 00:56:41,769
Oh, wow.
1392
00:56:42,837 --> 00:56:44,705
Says my drug dealer.
1393
00:56:44,839 --> 00:56:46,741
What, overnight
you grew a conscience?
1394
00:56:46,874 --> 00:56:49,777
Huh? You grew a fuckin' pair
of balls?
1395
00:56:52,513 --> 00:56:54,481
Fuck you, Marty.
Get down here.
1396
00:56:54,615 --> 00:56:56,751
-Have some of this with me.
-I'm good.
1397
00:56:56,884 --> 00:56:58,719
[young Rodney]
Oh, you're good? Yeah.
1398
00:56:58,853 --> 00:57:00,988
You know,
I fuckin' had your back
1399
00:57:01,122 --> 00:57:02,924
-through it all.
-[Rodney mumbles]
1400
00:57:03,057 --> 00:57:04,825
I've fuckin'
been there for you.
1401
00:57:04,959 --> 00:57:06,694
But I'm not fuckin'
doin' this shit
1402
00:57:06,827 --> 00:57:08,029
and I'm not goin' down
this fuckin' road with you.
1403
00:57:08,729 --> 00:57:10,031
What fuckin' road?
1404
00:57:10,164 --> 00:57:11,498
This fuckin' road with me
1405
00:57:11,632 --> 00:57:12,767
and the woman I love,
Romana?
1406
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,769
It's not fuckin'
about Romana!
1407
00:57:14,902 --> 00:57:17,104
It's never been about Romana,
it's about these fuckin' drugs.
1408
00:57:17,238 --> 00:57:19,173
That are killing you!
1409
00:57:19,307 --> 00:57:21,642
And I'm not gonna be here
to see that.
1410
00:57:21,776 --> 00:57:23,778
You're not there
for much, are you, Marty?
1411
00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:27,214
Chicken shit.
1412
00:57:27,348 --> 00:57:29,684
Your chicken shit ideas,
1413
00:57:29,817 --> 00:57:31,886
and you're
a chicken shit lackey.
1414
00:57:33,521 --> 00:57:36,023
So, by all means, go fuck off.
1415
00:57:36,157 --> 00:57:38,960
Out the front door.
And go home.
1416
00:57:39,961 --> 00:57:42,029
All right.
1417
00:57:42,163 --> 00:57:44,065
Call me if you need me.
1418
00:57:44,198 --> 00:57:46,033
You know where the fuck I am.
Been there the last 20 years.
1419
00:57:46,167 --> 00:57:48,069
-Uh-huh. Mmm.
-For you.
1420
00:57:50,972 --> 00:57:52,606
See you at
Thanksgiving, asshole!
1421
00:57:52,740 --> 00:57:54,108
[door slams shut]
1422
00:57:59,613 --> 00:58:01,148
[snorting & coughing]
1423
00:58:01,282 --> 00:58:03,017
[Marty]
After the Romana split,
1424
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:04,819
I'd never seen him like that.
1425
00:58:05,353 --> 00:58:07,487
He-- he wasn't Rodney anymore.
1426
00:58:08,723 --> 00:58:09,957
He wasn't the Rodney I know.
1427
00:58:11,258 --> 00:58:12,660
And that dude's
the craziest guy,
1428
00:58:12,793 --> 00:58:14,261
so to be at that point, for me,
1429
00:58:14,395 --> 00:58:16,263
I didn't even know
how to have his back.
1430
00:58:16,397 --> 00:58:18,132
I didn't know how
to support him.
1431
00:58:18,265 --> 00:58:21,102
So, at that moment
in time...
1432
00:58:22,003 --> 00:58:23,270
Rodney could've done anything.
1433
00:58:24,338 --> 00:58:25,706
Anything was possible.
1434
00:58:26,674 --> 00:58:29,076
[ominous music plays]
1435
00:58:38,786 --> 00:58:41,856
[Rodney] I was up for four dayson criss-cross speed.
1436
00:58:41,989 --> 00:58:44,492
Uh, had suicidal, uh,tendencies,
1437
00:58:44,658 --> 00:58:45,893
I had the suitcase
1438
00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:47,661
with the flares,like, dynamite.
1439
00:58:47,795 --> 00:58:49,163
I was gonna force herto go with me,
1440
00:58:49,296 --> 00:58:50,231
no matter which wayyou look at it.
1441
00:58:50,364 --> 00:58:56,003
♪
1442
00:59:15,923 --> 00:59:17,958
[interviewer] What were youwearing that day?
1443
00:59:18,092 --> 00:59:19,160
[Rodney]
I wore a sports jacket,
1444
00:59:19,293 --> 00:59:21,328
penny loafers, black tie,
1445
00:59:21,462 --> 00:59:24,965
a tie claspwith a round stone in it.
1446
00:59:25,099 --> 00:59:26,600
[interviewer]
Why were you wearing a suit?
1447
00:59:26,734 --> 00:59:27,802
[Rodney]
I wanted to impress my, uh,
1448
00:59:27,935 --> 00:59:29,603
wife when I picked her up.
1449
00:59:29,737 --> 00:59:35,076
♪
1450
00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:45,352
I drove overto her mother's house
1451
00:59:45,486 --> 00:59:47,288
and asked herwhere she was at
1452
00:59:47,421 --> 00:59:48,956
and she said thatshe just left in her Javelin
1453
00:59:49,090 --> 00:59:51,959
to go downto Portland at the mall
1454
00:59:52,093 --> 00:59:54,061
and I figured, well,I'd just go ahead
1455
00:59:54,195 --> 00:59:57,364
try to catch her at the mallso I could talk to her and,
1456
00:59:57,498 --> 01:00:00,101
uh, drove from SeattleFederal Way to-- to Portland.
1457
01:00:00,234 --> 01:00:02,069
I parked my car in the loop.
1458
01:00:02,203 --> 01:00:03,771
[interviewer] So, you're sayingthat you were suicidal,
1459
01:00:03,904 --> 01:00:06,874
so you wentto go take her hostage?
1460
01:00:07,007 --> 01:00:08,876
[Rodney] Yes, I did.I was gonna do it.
1461
01:00:09,009 --> 01:00:10,311
[interviewer] And that wasa very serious thought
1462
01:00:10,444 --> 01:00:11,679
-in your mind?
-[Rodney] Yes.
1463
01:00:11,812 --> 01:00:15,649
♪
1464
01:00:18,786 --> 01:00:21,155
[Rodney] I took a taxifrom there to the mall.
1465
01:00:21,288 --> 01:00:23,257
Jameson Beach mall,
and step on it already.
1466
01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:26,026
[Rodney] But she wasn't there,missed her by 20 minutes.
1467
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,862
Plan B wasto get ahead of her,
1468
01:00:27,995 --> 01:00:29,797
so I'd take an airplane back.
1469
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:31,699
Right away I was worried,I just left the car,
1470
01:00:31,832 --> 01:00:33,234
took a cab from the air--
1471
01:00:33,367 --> 01:00:36,170
from there, the mall,to the airport.
1472
01:00:36,303 --> 01:00:38,205
Got to the airport,I asked him how much
1473
01:00:38,339 --> 01:00:41,041
it'd be to ride coachto Seattle and they said $20.
1474
01:00:41,175 --> 01:00:43,010
I signed my name Dan Cooper.
1475
01:00:43,677 --> 01:00:46,147
[Mike] Anytime y-- you start
digging into something
1476
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,748
that happened in the past,
1477
01:00:47,882 --> 01:00:49,283
there are a lot of
different things
1478
01:00:49,416 --> 01:00:50,951
that could or couldn't
have happened,
1479
01:00:51,085 --> 01:00:53,687
and as time grows, you-- you--
1480
01:00:53,821 --> 01:00:56,690
those facts are more difficult
to uncover.
1481
01:00:56,824 --> 01:00:59,160
Sometimes it-- it-- it's
left with a question mark.
1482
01:00:59,293 --> 01:01:02,029
After being presented
with what he gave us,
1483
01:01:02,163 --> 01:01:04,398
we're convinced enough
to at least move forward
1484
01:01:04,533 --> 01:01:07,234
with this because, whether the
story is true or not,
1485
01:01:07,368 --> 01:01:08,802
it-- it's an adventure.
1486
01:01:08,936 --> 01:01:09,970
And we went
on a treasure hunt.
1487
01:01:13,274 --> 01:01:15,743
[Wes] We're gonna pass,
like, some sort of,
1488
01:01:15,876 --> 01:01:18,946
like, industrial area,
which is where,
1489
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,049
on some YouTube video,
they dropped a pin that said
1490
01:01:22,183 --> 01:01:24,051
"DB money found," like,
around that area.
1491
01:01:24,185 --> 01:01:25,419
[man] That's what
I'm saying Tena Bar is--
1492
01:01:25,554 --> 01:01:26,954
[Wes] Right, right.
1493
01:01:27,087 --> 01:01:28,355
[Mike] Yeah, it's called
Tena Bar,
1494
01:01:28,489 --> 01:01:29,823
and it-- it's located
on several maps
1495
01:01:29,957 --> 01:01:31,458
so we're trying to, uh,
convert,
1496
01:01:31,593 --> 01:01:35,329
you know, screenshots
over to an actual GPS map
1497
01:01:35,462 --> 01:01:38,032
and, uh, figured out
where it was.
1498
01:01:38,165 --> 01:01:39,967
[Wes] DB was talkin' about
a little cove
1499
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:41,468
that he buried the money at
1500
01:01:41,603 --> 01:01:43,737
and we think
that's the cove right there.
1501
01:01:43,871 --> 01:01:45,105
[man]
Outside the cove.
1502
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,474
So we'll be able
to park on the road
1503
01:01:47,609 --> 01:01:50,477
or maybe even closer,
pop down, and...
1504
01:01:51,546 --> 01:01:53,080
theoretically get it.
1505
01:01:53,214 --> 01:01:55,749
[Mike] This is, um,
a geographic area
1506
01:01:55,883 --> 01:01:57,284
that is--
it's very, very, rural.
1507
01:01:57,418 --> 01:02:00,054
Flat and open and it has
a lot of growth,
1508
01:02:00,187 --> 01:02:01,789
there's no malls out there.
1509
01:02:01,922 --> 01:02:03,891
[Rodney] Road closed.
-[man] Well, this is us.
1510
01:02:04,024 --> 01:02:05,759
[Carlos] As we pull up
to the end of the road,
1511
01:02:05,893 --> 01:02:07,928
we have the anticipation,
as you're starting,
1512
01:02:08,062 --> 01:02:10,331
that you might
actually dig up,
1513
01:02:10,464 --> 01:02:12,166
you know, $190,000.
1514
01:02:12,299 --> 01:02:14,134
You know,
a 48 year mystery solved,
1515
01:02:14,268 --> 01:02:16,036
you know,
in a handful of hours.
1516
01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:17,438
[interviewer]
How're you feeling?
1517
01:02:17,572 --> 01:02:19,373
I'm optimistic, but still--
1518
01:02:19,507 --> 01:02:22,476
I have to be a realist.
If it's there, though.
1519
01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:25,746
He says he can find it,
so we're gonna give it a go.
1520
01:02:25,879 --> 01:02:27,481
The money they
did find right down there--
1521
01:02:27,616 --> 01:02:30,251
Yeah. We're looking at
the cove that he had identified
1522
01:02:30,384 --> 01:02:32,286
as a landmark to where he--
1523
01:02:32,419 --> 01:02:33,854
[man] How far is it away?
1524
01:02:33,988 --> 01:02:35,489
[man 2] Like, 900 feet,
it's close.
1525
01:02:35,624 --> 01:02:37,057
[Mike] Well, let's gear up,
let's get all the stuff
1526
01:02:37,191 --> 01:02:39,126
we need for, uh,
hoofing here
1527
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:41,195
and anything we need
to dig it out.
1528
01:02:41,328 --> 01:02:42,896
I mean, let's do it.
1529
01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:44,131
If it's there, we're
gonna find it right now.
1530
01:02:45,165 --> 01:02:46,900
Carry the money out there.
1531
01:02:47,034 --> 01:02:49,436
[Mike] When they were
getting out of the vehicle,
1532
01:02:49,571 --> 01:02:50,971
they grabbed a duffel bag
1533
01:02:51,105 --> 01:02:52,806
and then
a backpack that was empty,
1534
01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:54,441
not one single thing in it
and I could hear them
1535
01:02:54,576 --> 01:02:56,443
talkin', sayin', "We'll
just put the money in this."
1536
01:02:56,578 --> 01:02:58,412
Why would they do that
unless they really felt
1537
01:02:58,546 --> 01:02:59,780
there was money out there?
1538
01:02:59,913 --> 01:03:01,115
Because we had backpacks,
1539
01:03:01,248 --> 01:03:02,783
we could've easily
carried it out.
1540
01:03:02,916 --> 01:03:04,818
But instead they had
an empty backpack,
1541
01:03:04,952 --> 01:03:06,954
so that was part of the--
one of the times
1542
01:03:07,087 --> 01:03:09,390
when I thought,
"Well, this-- this is real
1543
01:03:09,524 --> 01:03:10,991
and we might find
this money."
1544
01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:12,527
So, are you
guys armed right now?
1545
01:03:12,661 --> 01:03:14,061
Are you guys carryin'?
1546
01:03:14,194 --> 01:03:15,396
[Rodney] Don. Don was--
1547
01:03:15,530 --> 01:03:17,231
Are you guys
carrying a weapon?
1548
01:03:17,364 --> 01:03:18,866
Well, I don't think
we need it out here, do we?
1549
01:03:18,999 --> 01:03:20,501
No, we don't,
I was just makin' sure
1550
01:03:20,635 --> 01:03:21,835
that we're all safe
and we're all on the same page.
1551
01:03:21,969 --> 01:03:23,437
Oh, yeah.
1552
01:03:23,571 --> 01:03:24,972
He gets on a shootin' spree,
he might not quit.
1553
01:03:25,105 --> 01:03:26,006
Well, I only brought
one clip--
1554
01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:27,408
Cameramen are next!
1555
01:03:27,542 --> 01:03:29,310
[chattering
& laughter continues]
1556
01:03:29,443 --> 01:03:31,945
Let's go get the money!
1557
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:33,447
[interviewer]
How're you feelin' right now?
1558
01:03:33,581 --> 01:03:35,949
Real good.
I'm gonna go dig my money up.
1559
01:03:36,083 --> 01:03:38,352
The main thing is
I didn't harm nobody.
1560
01:03:38,485 --> 01:03:42,323
I just got the money.
I never was gonna harm nobody.
1561
01:03:42,456 --> 01:03:44,925
A little dynamite don't scare
anybody, does it?
1562
01:03:45,059 --> 01:03:47,361
[Rodney cackles] It does.
1563
01:03:47,995 --> 01:03:49,963
When you're way up
in the air.
1564
01:03:50,097 --> 01:03:51,131
[interviewer]
What was your intention
1565
01:03:51,265 --> 01:03:52,600
getting on that plane?
1566
01:03:52,734 --> 01:03:54,001
[Rodney] Getting on
that plane was to,
1567
01:03:54,134 --> 01:03:56,571
uh-- uh,
get ahead of her.
1568
01:03:57,071 --> 01:03:58,972
Well, things escalated.
1569
01:03:59,473 --> 01:04:01,576
I said I might as well
get some cash
1570
01:04:01,710 --> 01:04:04,078
and do a quick robbery
1571
01:04:04,211 --> 01:04:06,246
and, uh,
that's when I realized
1572
01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:08,982
that I had
the suitcase anyway,
1573
01:04:09,116 --> 01:04:11,385
that I would go ahead
and use that suitcase
1574
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:13,521
as a bomb threat
and take the plane over.
1575
01:04:30,705 --> 01:04:32,239
Ladies and gentlemen,
my name is Tina
1576
01:04:32,373 --> 01:04:33,874
and I'm your chief
flight attendant.
1577
01:04:34,007 --> 01:04:35,543
We go back and forth
up the coast,
1578
01:04:35,677 --> 01:04:38,946
I-- it was just like
any normal flight.
1579
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:40,582
Done it 1,000 times.
1580
01:04:40,715 --> 01:04:42,282
[Tina over PA]
I'd like to welcome you aboard
1581
01:04:42,416 --> 01:04:45,285
Northwest Orient 727nonstop service
1582
01:04:45,419 --> 01:04:47,121
from Portland to Seattle.
1583
01:04:47,254 --> 01:04:49,056
At this time,we'd like to ask you to...
1584
01:04:49,189 --> 01:04:50,457
-[stewardess] Here you go.
-[Young Rodney] Thank you.
1585
01:04:51,693 --> 01:04:53,360
Is everything all right?
1586
01:04:53,494 --> 01:04:56,997
Yeah, uh, I lost my wife.
1587
01:04:57,131 --> 01:04:58,666
Oh, I'm so sorry.
1588
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,401
[young Rodney]
But, you know what, Flo,
1589
01:05:00,535 --> 01:05:02,336
I think that everything
is gonna be all right.
1590
01:05:02,469 --> 01:05:04,204
You just keep those drinks
comin'... [chuckles]
1591
01:05:04,338 --> 01:05:05,973
...and at the end
of this flight
1592
01:05:06,106 --> 01:05:07,441
I'm gonna have a nice,
big tip for ya.
1593
01:05:07,575 --> 01:05:09,209
-Oh, okay.
-[Tina] Flo came and got me
1594
01:05:09,343 --> 01:05:12,012
and said that there was a--
1595
01:05:12,146 --> 01:05:14,549
disturbing passenger in 18E.
1596
01:05:15,182 --> 01:05:17,384
I thought
I'd go by and take a look.
1597
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:19,186
Excuse me.
1598
01:05:19,788 --> 01:05:22,122
Oh, did you want me
to give this to Flo?
1599
01:05:22,256 --> 01:05:24,024
I know you've
been hot on her tail.
1600
01:05:24,158 --> 01:05:26,661
[laughing] No, no, no.
Um, that's quite all right.
1601
01:05:26,795 --> 01:05:29,463
That's-- that's for you.
1602
01:05:29,597 --> 01:05:31,465
[Tina] Oh,
you're not very picky, are you?
1603
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:33,967
I'm flattered, but married.
1604
01:05:36,303 --> 01:05:37,572
I think
you'd better take a good,
1605
01:05:37,705 --> 01:05:39,541
-long look at that note.
-[Tina] Okay.
1606
01:05:44,311 --> 01:05:46,346
[Rodney] She read the noteand then I went and flashed
1607
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,616
the suitcase in front of herand kinda looked at me
1608
01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:51,952
and stuttered all the way upto the-- fast as she could.
1609
01:05:52,654 --> 01:05:55,322
[pilot 1]
Auto coming on. Okay.
1610
01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:58,358
Is everything all right?
1611
01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:05,567
"$200,000 in negotiable
1612
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:09,704
American currency
and-- four parachutes
1613
01:06:09,838 --> 01:06:11,639
or this plane blows.
[chuckles]
1614
01:06:12,272 --> 01:06:15,743
Too bad it's Thanksgiving
and not April Fools. [chuckles]
1615
01:06:15,877 --> 01:06:17,478
-[Pilot] Yeah, right?
-Who put you up to this?
1616
01:06:17,612 --> 01:06:19,313
The passenger in 18E.
1617
01:06:20,113 --> 01:06:21,348
This isn't a joke, sir.
1618
01:06:22,717 --> 01:06:24,384
Let me see that thing.
1619
01:06:29,356 --> 01:06:31,325
It smells like whiskey.
1620
01:06:31,458 --> 01:06:32,594
You know,
I'll tell you what.
1621
01:06:32,727 --> 01:06:35,630
Here,
you tell 007 back there
1622
01:06:35,763 --> 01:06:37,464
if he wants to earn
his wings,
1623
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,067
he can come up here
and ask me next time, okay?
1624
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,401
He showed me the bomb,
captain.
1625
01:06:42,436 --> 01:06:44,104
I think
this is really happening.
1626
01:06:44,672 --> 01:06:46,073
[Pilot] Oh, shit.
1627
01:06:46,641 --> 01:06:49,309
Who the hell hijacks a plane
on a 30-minute flight?
1628
01:06:50,043 --> 01:06:52,045
That's the craziest
thing I've ever heard.
1629
01:06:53,615 --> 01:06:55,082
All right,
punch in the Squawk Code
1630
01:06:55,215 --> 01:06:56,684
and, uh, make the call.
1631
01:06:59,152 --> 01:07:00,788
Metro tower, this is
1632
01:07:00,922 --> 01:07:03,725
Northwest Orient flight 305.
1633
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,794
We have a-- situation.
1634
01:07:08,563 --> 01:07:09,597
[Pilot] Yeah, we do.
1635
01:07:09,731 --> 01:07:11,164
All right, auto coming off.
1636
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:14,602
Okay, everybody,
could we settle down, please?
1637
01:07:14,736 --> 01:07:16,503
Please, quiet,
we-- we don't have
1638
01:07:16,638 --> 01:07:18,438
a lot of time here, guys,
so we're on limited time.
1639
01:07:18,573 --> 01:07:21,041
Thank you.
Um, first question.
1640
01:07:21,174 --> 01:07:22,577
[reporter 1]
Was there ever any attempt
1641
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:24,646
to dissuade him
or refuse his orders?
1642
01:07:24,779 --> 01:07:26,413
[Co-pilot clears throat]
1643
01:07:26,548 --> 01:07:29,049
The safety
of the crew is paramount
1644
01:07:29,182 --> 01:07:30,785
in a situation like that.
1645
01:07:30,919 --> 01:07:33,721
We were honoring
his requests
1646
01:07:33,855 --> 01:07:36,524
and therefore
made no attempt
1647
01:07:36,658 --> 01:07:40,595
to impede his mission,
per se.
1648
01:07:40,728 --> 01:07:43,130
[Rodney]
Well, I went up to the pilot,
1649
01:07:43,263 --> 01:07:45,600
he was telling me, uh, what--what they were gonna do.
1650
01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:47,334
They'll have the money.
1651
01:07:47,467 --> 01:07:48,836
And I said,for a good gesture,
1652
01:07:48,970 --> 01:07:50,538
I'll let everybodyoff the plane.
1653
01:07:50,672 --> 01:07:52,406
And, uh, meanwhile,I'm talking
1654
01:07:52,540 --> 01:07:54,241
to the sheriff's departmentand they said,
1655
01:07:54,374 --> 01:07:55,743
uh, they got two 'chutesfrom McCord airport base
1656
01:07:55,877 --> 01:07:57,311
and they got twofrom somewhere else.
1657
01:07:57,444 --> 01:07:58,846
One's for green,one's for brown.
1658
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:00,848
So, I took the green onebecause I knew
1659
01:08:00,982 --> 01:08:03,283
that the air force packed 'emand I wasn't gonna die.
1660
01:08:03,417 --> 01:08:05,185
I didn't wanna harm anybody.
1661
01:08:05,319 --> 01:08:07,087
I didn't have any dynamitein that suitcase,
1662
01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:09,456
it was all flaresand-- and an alarm clock.
1663
01:08:09,591 --> 01:08:11,158
[laughs]
I didn't mean anybody harm,
1664
01:08:11,291 --> 01:08:12,694
but it was too lateto back out.
1665
01:08:12,827 --> 01:08:14,562
After we secured
the money and the parachute,
1666
01:08:14,696 --> 01:08:18,265
we took off from Seattle
and then he asked us to lower
1667
01:08:18,398 --> 01:08:20,467
our airspeed and our altitude,
which we did.
1668
01:08:20,602 --> 01:08:22,169
[young Rodney]
All right, fellas,
1669
01:08:22,302 --> 01:08:23,838
I'm gonna need you
to take this thing down
1670
01:08:23,972 --> 01:08:25,405
to about 10,000 feet
1671
01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:26,741
and slow it down
to about 100 knots.
1672
01:08:27,575 --> 01:08:29,777
But, sir,
it's inclement weather here.
1673
01:08:29,911 --> 01:08:31,713
Just-- just--
I know what this bird can do,
1674
01:08:31,846 --> 01:08:34,247
just, please,
follow my request.
1675
01:08:34,381 --> 01:08:38,318
Tina. Sweet Tina.
1676
01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:40,755
I'm gonna have to
have you stay up here now.
1677
01:08:40,888 --> 01:08:42,523
I don't wanna see
you get hurt.
1678
01:08:43,223 --> 01:08:44,692
I don't wanna see
anybody get hurt.
1679
01:08:44,826 --> 01:08:46,426
[reporter 2]
And what was he like?
1680
01:08:46,561 --> 01:08:48,362
How was his demeanor
during the ordeal?
1681
01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:49,864
Well,
he was rather nice.
1682
01:08:50,698 --> 01:08:53,367
Other than he wanted
certain things done.
1683
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:55,737
He was never cruel or nasty.
1684
01:08:56,971 --> 01:08:58,539
He even ordered
a second bourbon
1685
01:08:58,673 --> 01:08:59,907
and paid his drink tab.
1686
01:09:00,942 --> 01:09:03,243
He even tried to tip me.
[chuckles]
1687
01:09:07,982 --> 01:09:11,686
♪ He's the leaderof the band ♪
1688
01:09:13,721 --> 01:09:18,660
♪ Takes stridesagainst his enemies ♪
1689
01:09:18,793 --> 01:09:24,498
♪ Down coke-filled hallways ♪
1690
01:09:24,632 --> 01:09:27,669
♪ Againstwhat his mother said ♪
1691
01:09:30,605 --> 01:09:33,440
♪ Blonde hair, blue eyed
1692
01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:40,915
♪ An angel in the daylight
1693
01:09:41,049 --> 01:09:42,950
♪ Come night,he's three tabs deep ♪
1694
01:09:43,084 --> 01:09:46,521
♪ And senseless ♪
1695
01:09:46,654 --> 01:09:51,291
♪ Againstthe face of violence... ♪
1696
01:09:51,425 --> 01:09:53,628
[reporter 3] Given
the conditions of the jump,
1697
01:09:53,761 --> 01:09:55,697
do you think
he could've survived?
1698
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:57,364
Um... [chuckles]
1699
01:09:57,497 --> 01:09:59,199
...without any training?
1700
01:09:59,332 --> 01:10:01,334
Uh, I think his chances
were between slim and none.
1701
01:10:04,872 --> 01:10:10,277
♪ Oh,I see myself free falling ♪
1702
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,881
♪ Beingthe woman to his addiction ♪
1703
01:10:14,015 --> 01:10:19,554
♪
1704
01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:42,777
[Rodney] I went rightdown on the Columbia River.
1705
01:10:42,910 --> 01:10:46,914
I left $5,880 on the beachand I took 300 more out
1706
01:10:47,048 --> 01:10:49,550
and I went forth and buriedthe other part on the way out.
1707
01:10:49,684 --> 01:10:55,388
♪
1708
01:11:13,875 --> 01:11:18,913
♪ Oh, baby, baby,baby, baby, baby ♪
1709
01:11:19,046 --> 01:11:23,985
♪ Hold me, hold me,hold me, hold me, baby ♪
1710
01:11:27,688 --> 01:11:31,659
[young Rodney grunting
& log thudding]
1711
01:11:31,793 --> 01:11:35,730
♪ Oh, no, no, no, no, no ♪
1712
01:11:39,466 --> 01:11:42,537
[laughing]
1713
01:11:49,644 --> 01:11:52,379
[music fades]
1714
01:11:52,513 --> 01:11:54,347
[Mike] When we got out there,you know,
1715
01:11:54,481 --> 01:11:56,483
it's a matter of-- kind ofgetting, uh, a feel
1716
01:11:56,617 --> 01:11:59,486
of the geographic areaand then following his lead
1717
01:11:59,620 --> 01:12:02,455
by where he describedthe money being buried.
1718
01:12:02,590 --> 01:12:06,359
And so from the gate's location
is it to the south?
1719
01:12:06,493 --> 01:12:08,830
[Rodney] Wherever that money
that I buried the first time--
1720
01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:12,033
I go from there,
down to the cove,
1721
01:12:12,166 --> 01:12:13,968
there's a great
big black onyx rock.
1722
01:12:14,101 --> 01:12:15,903
That's where
I buried the money.
1723
01:12:16,037 --> 01:12:17,705
Just off to the main track
where they ride motorcycles?
1724
01:12:17,839 --> 01:12:19,774
-[Rodney] Yeah.
-[Mike] Okay.
1725
01:12:19,907 --> 01:12:21,374
[Mike] He was all on boardand knew that it was there.
1726
01:12:21,509 --> 01:12:22,977
That wasn't a question,it was--
1727
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:24,579
it's thereand we just need to find it.
1728
01:12:24,712 --> 01:12:26,581
Holy shit,
it's all grown-in
1729
01:12:26,714 --> 01:12:28,481
48 years later.
1730
01:12:29,217 --> 01:12:30,952
We're comin'
straight through the woods.
1731
01:12:31,085 --> 01:12:32,620
[Rodney] Where I put
the first money was down there
1732
01:12:32,753 --> 01:12:33,988
and I climbed over
a barbed-wire fence
1733
01:12:34,121 --> 01:12:36,958
and cut my pants
and came over on a hill.
1734
01:12:37,592 --> 01:12:40,895
Then I followed it out
this way toward Woodland.
1735
01:12:41,028 --> 01:12:42,563
-[Mike] Right, right.
-[Rodney] The lights
1736
01:12:42,697 --> 01:12:44,131
[Mike]
He came up over a berm.
1737
01:12:44,732 --> 01:12:48,435
And then there was
a dirt road--
1738
01:12:48,569 --> 01:12:50,071
a sandy dirt road.
1739
01:12:50,204 --> 01:12:53,007
So, if this is that dirt road,
we gotta be close
1740
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:56,510
because that bay
is right over there.
1741
01:12:57,211 --> 01:12:58,980
All this new growth
can cover up something
1742
01:12:59,113 --> 01:13:00,815
that's five,
six feet tall, easily.
1743
01:13:00,948 --> 01:13:02,482
[man over radio]
Where are you?
1744
01:13:02,617 --> 01:13:04,118
Give mea little bit of reference.
1745
01:13:04,252 --> 01:13:05,887
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
-Well, we're moving faster
1746
01:13:06,020 --> 01:13:07,722
than you we-- we're moving
south on the road.
1747
01:13:07,855 --> 01:13:09,422
If you guys get up north
on that little area over here--
1748
01:13:09,557 --> 01:13:10,858
[interviewer] How you feelin'?
1749
01:13:10,992 --> 01:13:13,493
Uh, he's just kind of
dialing it in.
1750
01:13:13,628 --> 01:13:15,462
I-- I feel optimistic
right now.
1751
01:13:16,764 --> 01:13:18,666
Walked up further,
went further north,
1752
01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:20,500
and he insists
that it's way above
1753
01:13:20,635 --> 01:13:22,937
the flood stage and-- and--
and tidal influence.
1754
01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:24,939
And found, what I thought,
was a really good
1755
01:13:25,072 --> 01:13:26,807
potential target area.
1756
01:13:26,941 --> 01:13:28,776
There's a really cool
area up here
1757
01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:31,712
where it does have a high berm
and it definitely would be
1758
01:13:31,846 --> 01:13:34,447
probably above flood stage
and tide stage.
1759
01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:35,816
So, check out-- you know,
'cause he said
1760
01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:37,450
there was a distinctive berm.
1761
01:13:37,585 --> 01:13:38,986
-Look how this comes up.
-[Mike] Yeah.
1762
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,188
It's all sand
but when you get up on there
1763
01:13:41,322 --> 01:13:43,724
it's full of, uh, old,
1764
01:13:43,858 --> 01:13:47,061
uh, RV
or off-road vehicle tracks.
1765
01:13:47,194 --> 01:13:48,596
-Yeah.
-With access
1766
01:13:48,729 --> 01:13:50,197
right here to the road.
1767
01:13:50,331 --> 01:13:51,899
[Mike] It does fit
the description of the area.
1768
01:13:52,033 --> 01:13:53,768
And then he did say
he followed it out.
1769
01:13:53,901 --> 01:13:56,003
-[Carlos] Yeah.
-So he buried it
1770
01:13:56,137 --> 01:13:58,005
and then saw...
1771
01:13:58,139 --> 01:14:01,042
tracks, motorcycle--
whatever that came back out.
1772
01:14:01,175 --> 01:14:03,476
So this could
be where he came out.
1773
01:14:03,611 --> 01:14:05,445
[Rodney]
If I follow those tracks out,
1774
01:14:05,579 --> 01:14:07,148
I should be
able to get to a road
1775
01:14:07,281 --> 01:14:11,118
and I did, I walked out
and got to the main road
1776
01:14:11,252 --> 01:14:12,787
and then
this cowboy picks me up.
1777
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,156
[country music plays]
1778
01:14:21,796 --> 01:14:24,464
[cowboy] Ooh-ooh-ooh!
You just party out there, man?
1779
01:14:26,701 --> 01:14:28,235
[young Rodney]
Somethin' like that.
1780
01:14:28,369 --> 01:14:30,503
[cowboy] Well, hop in, huh?
1781
01:14:32,106 --> 01:14:33,774
[Rodney] And if it wasn'tfor that cowboy
1782
01:14:33,908 --> 01:14:36,243
that picked me updrinkin' alcohol,
1783
01:14:36,377 --> 01:14:38,646
headin' to a bar in Woodland,I would've never made it,
1784
01:14:38,779 --> 01:14:40,147
I don't think.
1785
01:14:40,281 --> 01:14:41,816
You have no idea
how much I appreciate this.
1786
01:14:42,817 --> 01:14:45,219
Here. For the trouble.
1787
01:14:45,353 --> 01:14:48,522
[cowboy] Hey, appreciate!
See you down the road, hoss.
1788
01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:49,924
[Rodney] Rode me upto Piggly Wiggly's,
1789
01:14:50,057 --> 01:14:51,826
he says,"Hurry up, get in there,
1790
01:14:51,959 --> 01:14:53,627
you get your shoes 'cause theyclose at ten."
1791
01:14:53,761 --> 01:14:55,663
And I went acrossthe street and down
1792
01:14:55,796 --> 01:14:57,665
this alley 'cause there'sa phone booth right there.
1793
01:14:57,798 --> 01:14:58,866
Called a taxi to bring me backto Portland, Oregon.
1794
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,969
♪ You help me baby ♪
1795
01:15:02,103 --> 01:15:04,238
♪ Said you gotyour misgivings ♪
1796
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,709
♪ But I'm out hereday to day ♪
1797
01:15:08,843 --> 01:15:11,812
♪ Working hardjust for my living ♪
1798
01:15:13,247 --> 01:15:16,517
♪ And that's the truth, baby
1799
01:15:16,650 --> 01:15:18,152
[interviewer] You pretty muchmade it clear.
1800
01:15:18,285 --> 01:15:19,754
You-- you're free and clear,pretty much.
1801
01:15:19,887 --> 01:15:21,088
[Rodney]
I'm free. I'm goin' home.
1802
01:15:21,222 --> 01:15:22,990
I said, "I'm goin' home."
1803
01:15:23,124 --> 01:15:24,658
There's nothin-- no--nobody knows who I am.
1804
01:15:24,792 --> 01:15:26,293
Driving homeacross the bridge,
1805
01:15:26,427 --> 01:15:27,895
got into Oregon and I got uptowards Olympia
1806
01:15:28,029 --> 01:15:30,031
and I saw the-- state patrol.
1807
01:15:30,164 --> 01:15:32,533
There must've been ten carscoming down the other side
1808
01:15:32,666 --> 01:15:35,536
with the army, a bunch of 'em,and these big trucks
1809
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:37,104
are goin' down the roadand I'm goin',
1810
01:15:37,238 --> 01:15:40,207
"Uh-oh, might be for me."You know?
1811
01:15:40,341 --> 01:15:42,977
So, I turn the transistorradio on, it says a manhunt.
1812
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:44,545
[radio newscaster]
Police believe he left
1813
01:15:44,678 --> 01:15:46,280
the 727 in the flatlands
1814
01:15:46,414 --> 01:15:48,082
of Oregon or Washington,but they are still looking
1815
01:15:48,215 --> 01:15:50,985
in four states,even around the airport.
1816
01:15:51,118 --> 01:15:52,720
[Rodney] November 25that my mom's house
1817
01:15:52,853 --> 01:15:54,989
to get my dinner--turkey dinner.
1818
01:15:55,122 --> 01:15:56,891
I ate there then wentdownstairs and went to bed.
1819
01:15:57,024 --> 01:15:58,993
Slept 'til about two or threein the afternoon
1820
01:15:59,126 --> 01:16:00,828
and my dad said,"You had a rough night,
1821
01:16:00,961 --> 01:16:02,663
must've been outwith some girls with him
1822
01:16:02,797 --> 01:16:04,031
or something,always with those girls."
1823
01:16:04,165 --> 01:16:05,266
And my mom said,"Oh, let him go,
1824
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:06,801
it's Thanksgiving."
1825
01:16:06,934 --> 01:16:08,002
You know, and everything.
1826
01:16:16,143 --> 01:16:20,181
♪ Whoa,she was my little machine ♪
1827
01:16:20,314 --> 01:16:22,049
I got homeand then I sat there
1828
01:16:22,183 --> 01:16:24,018
and then Joe McDonaldcame over, the neighbor,
1829
01:16:24,151 --> 01:16:26,187
and said, "Oh,you gotta turn the TV on."
1830
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,189
So thenI turn the TV on and my--
1831
01:16:28,322 --> 01:16:30,624
my dad's sitting thereand he goes, "Betty!
1832
01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:32,760
This looks like Rod!
1833
01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:34,995
But how could it be Rod?He's sittin' right here."
1834
01:16:35,129 --> 01:16:37,698
That's what he saidto my mother.
1835
01:16:37,832 --> 01:16:39,200
Well, that's anothergood lookin' Irish kid,
1836
01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:40,935
isn't it?
1837
01:16:41,068 --> 01:16:42,269
-What, half Irish?
-[young Rodney laughing]
1838
01:16:42,403 --> 01:16:44,105
I give the Lions
plus three.
1839
01:16:44,238 --> 01:16:46,807
You always bet on the Lions,
the Lions never win.
1840
01:16:46,941 --> 01:16:48,309
I pick the Lions
on Thanksgiving,
1841
01:16:48,442 --> 01:16:49,710
that's the way it is.
1842
01:16:50,377 --> 01:16:51,745
No smoking in the house.
1843
01:16:53,681 --> 01:16:56,684
My second family!
My home away from home!
1844
01:16:57,051 --> 01:16:58,986
[Jack and Babs]
Happy Thanksgiving, McDonald.
1845
01:17:02,389 --> 01:17:05,226
McDonald, how many times
do I have to tell you
1846
01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:07,828
to keep your fuckin' feet
off my fuckin' table?
1847
01:17:07,962 --> 01:17:10,030
Senior, these are bitchin'
Italian leather.
1848
01:17:10,164 --> 01:17:12,666
I don't care if they came
straight off the feet
1849
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,835
of Elvis Aaron Presley
himself.
1850
01:17:15,803 --> 01:17:17,705
Off the table
or in your ass.
1851
01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,708
-You pick.
-Sorry, sorry.
1852
01:17:21,142 --> 01:17:23,244
You know, McDonald,
actin' like that,
1853
01:17:23,377 --> 01:17:25,846
you're never gonna get yourself
a babe like my Babs here.
1854
01:17:26,814 --> 01:17:28,048
You two make me sick.
1855
01:17:28,182 --> 01:17:29,717
Piss off, Rodney.
1856
01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:31,152
[young Rodney]
Piss off, Barbara.
1857
01:17:31,285 --> 01:17:32,820
Hey, piss off, Rod.
1858
01:17:32,953 --> 01:17:34,989
Piss off, Jack.
You got a muzzle for her?
1859
01:17:35,122 --> 01:17:36,957
-[Babs] I can hold my own.
-[young Rodney scoffs]
1860
01:17:37,091 --> 01:17:38,993
You know that
from experience.
1861
01:17:39,126 --> 01:17:40,094
That's 'cause
you wear the pants
1862
01:17:40,227 --> 01:17:41,428
in the relationship.
1863
01:17:41,563 --> 01:17:43,030
Oh, Rod,
you know that's not true.
1864
01:17:43,164 --> 01:17:46,800
[Mom]
Hey, hey, guys, cut it out!
1865
01:17:47,301 --> 01:17:49,970
When can a mother
just have a nice,
1866
01:17:50,104 --> 01:17:51,672
peaceful holiday
1867
01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:54,408
with her two lovely boys
and her dapper husband?
1868
01:17:56,043 --> 01:17:58,679
Oh, I wish my family
was this well-behaved.
1869
01:17:58,812 --> 01:18:00,681
Hell, I just came here
to get away from their asses.
1870
01:18:01,916 --> 01:18:04,118
Oh, and see if you guys
watched the news!
1871
01:18:04,251 --> 01:18:07,922
Some guy hijacked a plane
in Portland last night
1872
01:18:08,055 --> 01:18:09,456
and then jumped from it!
1873
01:18:09,591 --> 01:18:11,792
It's like some
James Bond movie, man!
1874
01:18:11,926 --> 01:18:14,695
Ooh, I love James Bond!
1875
01:18:15,796 --> 01:18:17,431
Turn it on, Senior!
1876
01:18:21,268 --> 01:18:22,836
[news anchor]
When he got on a plane
1877
01:18:22,970 --> 01:18:24,104
in Portland, Oregonlast night,
1878
01:18:24,238 --> 01:18:25,773
he was just another passenger
1879
01:18:25,906 --> 01:18:27,241
who gave his nameas D.A. Cooper.
1880
01:18:27,374 --> 01:18:29,243
But today,after hijacking a--
1881
01:18:29,376 --> 01:18:32,746
A plane heist?
In our backyard?
1882
01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:34,715
Oh, dear Lord!
1883
01:18:34,848 --> 01:18:36,417
This guy got away with it
though.
1884
01:18:37,818 --> 01:18:39,019
-Betty.
-[Mom] Yeah?
1885
01:18:39,554 --> 01:18:41,288
This looks a lot like Rod.
1886
01:18:43,424 --> 01:18:46,695
How can it be Rod?
He's sitting right here!
1887
01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:48,162
[news anchor] ...left aboardfour crew members
1888
01:18:48,295 --> 01:18:49,730
and the hijacker.
1889
01:18:49,863 --> 01:18:51,031
[Dad] I guess
it's just another
1890
01:18:51,165 --> 01:18:52,433
good-looking Irish kid.
1891
01:18:54,401 --> 01:18:56,904
[all]
No smoking in the house!
1892
01:18:57,037 --> 01:18:58,405
[news anchor]
...with the full ransom
1893
01:18:58,540 --> 01:19:00,074
collected fromthe Seattle banks
1894
01:19:00,207 --> 01:19:02,042
and four parachutesaboard...
1895
01:19:02,176 --> 01:19:03,310
[Rodney] My dad didn't know,
I didn't tell my dad and mom
1896
01:19:03,444 --> 01:19:04,912
for ten years
after I did it.
1897
01:19:05,045 --> 01:19:06,280
[interviewer]
So, did you tell anyone
1898
01:19:06,413 --> 01:19:08,015
right after
you committed the crime?
1899
01:19:08,148 --> 01:19:08,949
My brother.
My brother's known all along.
1900
01:19:09,083 --> 01:19:10,284
[Jack] Golly!
1901
01:19:10,417 --> 01:19:12,186
Brigitte Bardot's
hot as a pistol!
1902
01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:13,954
[young Rodney] Oh, yeah?
1903
01:19:14,088 --> 01:19:15,789
You got
the Brigitte Bardot edition?
1904
01:19:15,923 --> 01:19:17,258
-Let me take a look.
-Hands off the merchandise.
1905
01:19:17,391 --> 01:19:18,792
Sorry, it's not like
I need to see it,
1906
01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:20,060
I've seen it
a thousand times.
1907
01:19:20,461 --> 01:19:22,229
I got Brigitte Bardot
stored away up here
1908
01:19:22,363 --> 01:19:24,298
for very special occasions
in the future.
1909
01:19:24,932 --> 01:19:26,233
Yeah?
1910
01:19:26,367 --> 01:19:28,068
Like the time
you got busted by mom
1911
01:19:28,202 --> 01:19:30,037
-looking for face lotion?
-[young Rodney laughs]
1912
01:19:30,538 --> 01:19:32,873
No, and I would prefer
that we forget about that,
1913
01:19:33,007 --> 01:19:34,174
thank you very much.
1914
01:19:37,878 --> 01:19:39,213
Lotta good memories
in this house.
1915
01:19:41,415 --> 01:19:42,783
Do you remember
when we used to raid
1916
01:19:42,916 --> 01:19:44,852
dad's old movie cabinet
1917
01:19:44,985 --> 01:19:46,987
and we'd put on Public Enemy
over and over and over again?
1918
01:19:47,522 --> 01:19:48,956
And I would play
John Dillinger
1919
01:19:49,089 --> 01:19:50,124
and you'd play
Pretty Boy Floyd?
1920
01:19:50,525 --> 01:19:51,792
Yeah, yeah.
1921
01:19:52,527 --> 01:19:53,994
Or how 'bout that kid
across the street?
1922
01:19:54,495 --> 01:19:56,196
With the headgear?
1923
01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:57,532
What'd we call him?
What'd we used to call him?
1924
01:19:57,666 --> 01:19:59,133
Uh--
1925
01:19:59,266 --> 01:20:00,901
[both] Brace-face Nelson!
1926
01:20:01,035 --> 01:20:03,538
[laughing] What an idiot.
1927
01:20:05,406 --> 01:20:06,840
Gangster films...
1928
01:20:08,242 --> 01:20:09,810
I have a feeling
I'm about to put
1929
01:20:09,943 --> 01:20:11,278
all those gangsters
in the cinema to shame.
1930
01:20:13,447 --> 01:20:14,516
Keep dreamin', bud.
1931
01:20:15,949 --> 01:20:18,218
No, I'm not kidding.
1932
01:20:19,086 --> 01:20:20,821
Last night on the news,
1933
01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:21,989
the guy that jumped
outta the plane, you remember?
1934
01:20:22,122 --> 01:20:23,223
-Yeah.
-[laughs]
1935
01:20:24,391 --> 01:20:26,160
You're sitting with him.
It was me.
1936
01:20:28,663 --> 01:20:30,164
-[Jack] Full of shit.
-[laughing]
1937
01:20:30,297 --> 01:20:31,365
I'm not full of shit.
1938
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:33,500
I really did it.
Look, come on.
1939
01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:36,970
If I didn't do it,
how did I get these?
1940
01:20:44,011 --> 01:20:45,446
Rod,
if you were that guy,
1941
01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:47,381
we'd be on our way to paradise
with $200,000.
1942
01:20:49,517 --> 01:20:51,251
You really don't believe me.
I jumped out of the plane!
1943
01:20:51,385 --> 01:20:53,588
I landed and about a quarter
mile from where I landed
1944
01:20:53,722 --> 01:20:55,155
I buried all this money
1945
01:20:55,289 --> 01:20:56,524
next to this big black
onyx rock!
1946
01:20:58,225 --> 01:20:59,893
I need you to come help me
dig it up.
1947
01:21:00,427 --> 01:21:01,995
You're serious?
1948
01:21:02,129 --> 01:21:03,330
[young Rodney scoffs]
As a heart attack.
1949
01:21:04,431 --> 01:21:05,633
Okay, let's just say,
1950
01:21:05,767 --> 01:21:07,267
hypothetically,
you were that guy.
1951
01:21:08,235 --> 01:21:10,204
Those bills
would definitely be marked...
1952
01:21:11,004 --> 01:21:13,040
and if you got caught
you'd be goin' to Walla Walla
1953
01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:14,942
for the rest
of your goddamn life.
1954
01:21:16,443 --> 01:21:18,045
Bro, I need you
to believe me on this.
1955
01:21:21,516 --> 01:21:23,117
Rod...
1956
01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:27,187
if you're that guy...
don't go back there.
1957
01:21:27,321 --> 01:21:29,089
[announcer]
The Army Corps of Engineers
1958
01:21:29,223 --> 01:21:31,626
had dredged the Columbia Riverhere in 1974.
1959
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,094
[Mike] And the original money
was found just south of here.
1960
01:21:34,228 --> 01:21:35,597
So, this, uh, probably
1961
01:21:35,730 --> 01:21:37,331
is the cove
that he encountered.
1962
01:21:37,464 --> 01:21:39,133
And then he moved inland
from there.
1963
01:21:39,667 --> 01:21:41,135
Have him come
take a look at this.
1964
01:21:41,268 --> 01:21:43,137
[announcer]
And now on shore,
1965
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:45,372
where FBI agents comb the sandlike archaeologists.
1966
01:21:45,507 --> 01:21:49,009
All they found was $5,800and no sign of D.B. Cooper.
1967
01:21:49,143 --> 01:21:50,244
Oh, yeah, it's here.
1968
01:21:50,812 --> 01:21:52,980
It's right on this--
we're right in the right area.
1969
01:21:54,314 --> 01:21:55,650
It's gotta be here somewhere.
1970
01:21:55,784 --> 01:21:59,353
[intriguing music playing]
1971
01:22:00,454 --> 01:22:03,090
[worker indistinct]
1972
01:22:04,659 --> 01:22:06,260
[Rodney] And they're digging
right by the flat rock, right?
1973
01:22:06,393 --> 01:22:07,461
[man] Yeah.
1974
01:22:08,328 --> 01:22:10,230
[Mike] To me, that whole
group of rocks right there--
1975
01:22:11,265 --> 01:22:14,101
Yeah, and that is--
he says that's black onyx.
1976
01:22:14,501 --> 01:22:16,704
And, yeah, there's several
up in this area too,
1977
01:22:16,838 --> 01:22:19,707
so that's the only
concentration of that.
1978
01:22:19,841 --> 01:22:21,041
[announcer]
Crews continue to dig
1979
01:22:21,175 --> 01:22:22,544
but found very little
1980
01:22:22,677 --> 01:22:24,211
of Cooper's green treasuretoday,
1981
01:22:24,344 --> 01:22:25,713
even thoughthe discovery site
1982
01:22:25,847 --> 01:22:27,114
is lookinglike a very scientific
1983
01:22:27,247 --> 01:22:28,482
archaeological excavation.
1984
01:22:28,616 --> 01:22:29,617
Shovels gave wayto backhoes,
1985
01:22:29,751 --> 01:22:31,452
the FBI and geologists
1986
01:22:31,586 --> 01:22:32,986
scooping out a test-trenchup the beach.
1987
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,556
What they're trying to tell,
1988
01:22:34,689 --> 01:22:36,524
how long had D.B.'s moneybeen here?
1989
01:22:36,658 --> 01:22:38,459
They knew certain levelswere laid down on the beach
1990
01:22:38,593 --> 01:22:41,495
in 1974, but they foundno money below that point.
1991
01:22:41,629 --> 01:22:43,263
[man 2 whistling]
1992
01:22:43,397 --> 01:22:44,431
-[Mike] We got a whistle.
-[both] What's up?
1993
01:22:44,566 --> 01:22:46,333
[Carlos] Heard a whistle,
1994
01:22:46,467 --> 01:22:48,235
blood starts pumping,and I think, "Okay,
1995
01:22:48,368 --> 01:22:49,002
maybe somebody's foundsomething of interest.
1996
01:22:50,137 --> 01:22:51,171
[man 2] Is anybody
in the woods?
1997
01:22:51,305 --> 01:22:53,006
There's a body.
1998
01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:54,141
[Carlos] I thoughtI heard somebody say,
1999
01:22:54,274 --> 01:22:55,275
"I found a body."
2000
01:22:55,409 --> 01:22:56,443
[Mike] [indistinct] body.
2001
01:22:57,311 --> 01:22:59,714
[man 3] Yeah, we might wanna
go up there and check it out.
2002
01:22:59,848 --> 01:23:01,248
[man 4] Well,
I will just take this.
2003
01:23:01,381 --> 01:23:03,083
[Mike] And then uh--
2004
01:23:03,217 --> 01:23:04,151
and then I hear somethingabout a warrant.
2005
01:23:04,284 --> 01:23:05,520
...somebody hollerin'.
2006
01:23:05,653 --> 01:23:07,120
We don't know
if it's a sheriff
2007
01:23:07,254 --> 01:23:09,122
or an officer
or who it could be.
2008
01:23:09,256 --> 01:23:11,158
We're just out for a day hike
and shooting some of the...
2009
01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:14,394
[Mike]
I mean, we knew going in
2010
01:23:14,529 --> 01:23:15,730
that we probablyshouldn't be there.
2011
01:23:25,339 --> 01:23:27,474
[Carlos indistinct]
2012
01:23:27,609 --> 01:23:30,612
[Scott] Kids walk
from the bus everyday
2013
01:23:30,745 --> 01:23:32,145
'cause I live down here.
2014
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:34,649
That sign
is pretty highly posted
2015
01:23:34,782 --> 01:23:36,483
-on that gate.
-Yeah.
2016
01:23:36,618 --> 01:23:38,318
So is this all private property
from the gate back?
2017
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,354
-[Scott] Yessir.
-Yeah.
2018
01:23:40,487 --> 01:23:42,189
[Scott] Sorry, I'm not trying
to be an ass.
2019
01:23:42,322 --> 01:23:43,558
-[Carlos] No, no.
-[Mike] And we're not either.
2020
01:23:43,691 --> 01:23:45,225
-[Scott] I'm loaded.
-So are we.
2021
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:47,160
You have the complete right
to-- yeah.
2022
01:23:47,294 --> 01:23:50,130
[Scott]
My name's Scott. Is that on?
2023
01:23:50,264 --> 01:23:51,666
-Do you want it to be on?
-[Scott] No.
2024
01:23:51,799 --> 01:23:54,636
-[both laughing]
-[cameraman] It's not on you.
2025
01:23:55,670 --> 01:23:57,137
-Yeah.
-[Scott] It's recording.
2026
01:23:58,338 --> 01:23:59,406
What're you guys recovering?
2027
01:24:00,140 --> 01:24:01,375
You said you guys
were down here
2028
01:24:01,509 --> 01:24:02,577
with a recovery agent?
2029
01:24:03,377 --> 01:24:04,444
What're you looking for?
2030
01:24:05,847 --> 01:24:08,382
[all laughing]
2031
01:24:08,516 --> 01:24:09,617
[Scott] Hey,
you're on my property,
2032
01:24:09,751 --> 01:24:11,084
what're you looking for?
2033
01:24:11,218 --> 01:24:12,386
Is that
your specific property?
2034
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,521
-[Scott] Yeah!
-I-- I thought
2035
01:24:13,655 --> 01:24:15,255
this was private property-
2036
01:24:15,389 --> 01:24:17,257
[Scott] No, no, it says
it all over the gate.
2037
01:24:17,391 --> 01:24:18,325
[interviewer] Why didn'tyou go back and get the money?
2038
01:24:18,458 --> 01:24:19,459
[Rodney] Pandora's box.
2039
01:24:19,594 --> 01:24:21,328
You open that box...
2040
01:24:21,461 --> 01:24:23,665
it's gonna happenall over again.
2041
01:24:23,798 --> 01:24:27,301
138 kidnapping casesplus the pilots,
2042
01:24:27,434 --> 01:24:29,469
another four, five of them.
2043
01:24:29,604 --> 01:24:31,138
That's--you'd never get out of prison,
2044
01:24:31,271 --> 01:24:32,774
you'd never seethe light of day.
2045
01:24:32,907 --> 01:24:34,609
I knewthat I was still wanted.
2046
01:24:34,742 --> 01:24:36,611
It was, like,I was wanted all the time,
2047
01:24:36,744 --> 01:24:38,846
walking around and I thoughtmaybe sooner or later
2048
01:24:38,980 --> 01:24:42,416
somebody'd recognize me,but that wasn't the case.
2049
01:24:42,817 --> 01:24:44,686
So I decided
to go on the run for a while,
2050
01:24:44,819 --> 01:24:48,523
I went to Whitefish, Montana,went to, uh, Lake Tahoe,
2051
01:24:48,656 --> 01:24:50,457
I went to Reno,I went to Vegas.
2052
01:24:50,959 --> 01:24:52,727
[interviewer]
I-- so-- you just-- you knew
2053
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:55,563
you had done something
so crazy
2054
01:24:55,697 --> 01:24:57,431
and you knew
you would go to prison forever
2055
01:24:57,565 --> 01:24:59,466
so there's no way
that you'd have ever bragged?
2056
01:24:59,601 --> 01:25:00,668
No.
2057
01:25:01,335 --> 01:25:03,470
But I did brag
to Rita Coolidge.
2058
01:25:03,605 --> 01:25:06,106
I met her in Lake Tahoe,
she's singing at a bar,
2059
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:08,308
and she says,
"Well, you know I did a movie
2060
01:25:08,442 --> 01:25:10,444
with Kris Kristofferson,
Billy the Kid."
2061
01:25:11,278 --> 01:25:12,580
And she says,
"You're more famous
2062
01:25:12,714 --> 01:25:13,781
than Billy the Kid."
2063
01:25:15,382 --> 01:25:16,851
She said, "I'd like to do
a movie with you."
2064
01:25:18,218 --> 01:25:19,687
And so,
she took her shoes off
2065
01:25:19,821 --> 01:25:22,189
and kept rubbing her feet
on my knee and, uh,
2066
01:25:22,322 --> 01:25:23,658
getting close to this
and I says,
2067
01:25:23,791 --> 01:25:25,325
"Well, she must like me
a whole bunch."
2068
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,630
I just made a movie
with Kris
2069
01:25:28,763 --> 01:25:30,130
called Billy the Kid...
2070
01:25:31,431 --> 01:25:34,267
and things had gotten,
well...
2071
01:25:35,870 --> 01:25:37,437
[sighs] out of hand.
2072
01:25:40,675 --> 01:25:42,409
I was heartbroken at the time,
you know,
2073
01:25:42,543 --> 01:25:45,713
and drinkin' more
than I shoulda been.
2074
01:25:47,414 --> 01:25:50,417
♪ All I was was patient
2075
01:25:50,551 --> 01:25:55,288
♪ All I was was kind ♪
2076
01:25:55,422 --> 01:25:58,860
♪ But you foundthe burnt pieces ♪
2077
01:25:58,993 --> 01:26:04,398
♪ Of the lovewe left behind ♪
2078
01:26:04,532 --> 01:26:08,770
♪ The love we left behind ♪
2079
01:26:10,270 --> 01:26:14,207
♪ Oh, the love we left
2080
01:26:15,375 --> 01:26:18,178
♪ Behind
2081
01:26:18,311 --> 01:26:21,649
♪ Mm ♪
2082
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:27,387
[applause]
2083
01:26:31,926 --> 01:26:34,529
-Hey, Stan.
-[Stan] Hey!
2084
01:26:35,129 --> 01:26:37,397
Can I get a Macallan
on the rocks?
2085
01:26:37,865 --> 01:26:39,332
You know how I like it.
2086
01:26:41,401 --> 01:26:43,303
Now a lady who knows
how to order whiskey...
2087
01:26:44,404 --> 01:26:45,472
that, I like.
2088
01:26:46,874 --> 01:26:48,776
Well,
I been drinkin' long enough
2089
01:26:48,910 --> 01:26:50,277
to know what I like.
2090
01:26:50,410 --> 01:26:51,713
Well,
that makes two of us.
2091
01:26:52,113 --> 01:26:54,481
And, I love that song
that you sang tonight.
2092
01:26:54,615 --> 01:26:56,249
Who writes something
like that?
2093
01:26:56,383 --> 01:26:57,885
That's incredible,
I could really, you know,
2094
01:26:58,019 --> 01:26:59,520
hear all the pain
coming out of you on that one.
2095
01:26:59,654 --> 01:27:00,722
[laughs]
2096
01:27:01,823 --> 01:27:02,890
Yeah.
2097
01:27:04,424 --> 01:27:05,927
Heartbreak is a funny thing.
2098
01:27:08,062 --> 01:27:09,496
There's always that one
2099
01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:11,231
that leaves
with a piece of you.
2100
01:27:11,966 --> 01:27:15,268
And the only way I seem to cope
is on a stage...
2101
01:27:16,671 --> 01:27:17,905
or with a few of these.
2102
01:27:22,342 --> 01:27:23,945
I'm sorry,
I didn't catch your name.
2103
01:27:24,812 --> 01:27:27,481
Rodney Bonnifield.
Pleasure to meet you.
2104
01:27:27,615 --> 01:27:28,883
Rita Coolidge.
2105
01:27:29,349 --> 01:27:31,251
Just like the town
in Colorado.
2106
01:27:31,384 --> 01:27:32,419
[young Rodney] Oh, yeah?
2107
01:27:33,688 --> 01:27:36,824
It's actually
named after my family.
2108
01:27:38,893 --> 01:27:39,994
Now,
that is funny because...
2109
01:27:40,895 --> 01:27:43,765
-I also have a long history--
-Oh, wait, wait, wait.
2110
01:27:44,599 --> 01:27:45,833
I wanna hear this.
2111
01:27:46,734 --> 01:27:49,804
-Stan, turn it up.
-[Stan] You got it.
2112
01:27:49,937 --> 01:27:51,839
[news anchor]
In other news,
2113
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:54,441
it's been two years sincethe D.B. Cooper hijacking
2114
01:27:54,575 --> 01:27:56,744
and still no signof a suspect.
2115
01:27:57,578 --> 01:27:58,780
Oh, my gosh.
2116
01:27:58,913 --> 01:28:00,815
I'm fascinated by this guy.
2117
01:28:02,984 --> 01:28:06,788
It takes a real man
to carry out a plan like that
2118
01:28:06,921 --> 01:28:08,355
and not harm a soul.
2119
01:28:09,657 --> 01:28:11,291
Now,
that I will agree with you on.
2120
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,361
Yeah.
2121
01:28:14,494 --> 01:28:17,297
You know, he's probably
on some beach somewhere
2122
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:19,499
sippin' piña coladas
2123
01:28:19,634 --> 01:28:21,501
while I'm here
in this bar
2124
01:28:21,636 --> 01:28:24,504
singin' songs to the same
ten people every night.
2125
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:26,908
[laughs] Well,
I can certainly see why!
2126
01:28:28,609 --> 01:28:30,410
You know,
this D.B. Cooper fella,
2127
01:28:30,545 --> 01:28:32,580
he's probably on some
white sandy beach somewhere
2128
01:28:32,713 --> 01:28:34,015
tossin' back a piña colada.
2129
01:28:34,715 --> 01:28:35,783
Or...
2130
01:28:37,585 --> 01:28:38,786
he's right here
in this bar...
2131
01:28:40,721 --> 01:28:41,789
havin' drinks with you,
miss.
2132
01:28:41,923 --> 01:28:45,960
[guitar music playing]
2133
01:28:50,565 --> 01:28:55,903
♪ Woke up this morningI was a thousand miles away ♪
2134
01:28:56,037 --> 01:28:58,673
♪ Didn't knowjust where I stand ♪
2135
01:29:01,042 --> 01:29:06,747
♪ Nothing on mebut this beat up suitcase ♪
2136
01:29:06,881 --> 01:29:09,917
♪ And I know I got a plan ♪
2137
01:29:10,051 --> 01:29:12,452
♪ And I'll be runnin' now ♪
2138
01:29:14,689 --> 01:29:17,124
♪ 'Fore my feetever hit the ground ♪
2139
01:29:20,595 --> 01:29:22,697
♪ I'll be runnin' now
2140
01:29:25,166 --> 01:29:27,735
♪ 'Fore my feetever hit the ground ♪
2141
01:29:31,606 --> 01:29:35,676
♪ And I'm runningout of my head ♪
2142
01:29:35,810 --> 01:29:37,545
♪ Nobody's gonnabring me down ♪
2143
01:29:37,678 --> 01:29:39,046
You know, I was thinkin'...
2144
01:29:41,616 --> 01:29:43,150
you should come
to Denver with me.
2145
01:29:45,953 --> 01:29:47,555
I got a couple gigs there.
2146
01:29:49,056 --> 01:29:50,725
[young Rodney sighs]
2147
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,629
I can't go
to Colorado with you.
2148
01:29:56,931 --> 01:29:58,833
I've had
a fantastic time with you...
2149
01:30:02,036 --> 01:30:03,738
But the whole
outlaw on the run thing...
2150
01:30:06,707 --> 01:30:07,775
kinda gets in the way.
2151
01:30:10,111 --> 01:30:11,178
I understand.
2152
01:30:30,831 --> 01:30:32,900
I've had a melody in my head
all morning.
2153
01:30:36,804 --> 01:30:41,108
♪ Run, D.B., run
2154
01:30:42,109 --> 01:30:44,612
♪ Mm
2155
01:30:45,713 --> 01:30:49,884
♪ Run, D.B., run
2156
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:56,724
♪ But for how long?
2157
01:30:58,092 --> 01:31:00,895
♪ 'Cause eventually
2158
01:31:01,028 --> 01:31:03,798
♪ You're gonna have to findsomebody ♪
2159
01:31:03,931 --> 01:31:08,501
♪ To hold onto ♪
2160
01:31:09,837 --> 01:31:11,205
[interviewer]
Um, what do you--
2161
01:31:11,339 --> 01:31:12,807
where do you think
we go from here?
2162
01:31:12,940 --> 01:31:14,108
In this process?
2163
01:31:14,241 --> 01:31:15,943
Well,
where we go from here?
2164
01:31:16,077 --> 01:31:17,678
First, we have some details
that we have to vet out
2165
01:31:17,812 --> 01:31:19,814
and there are--
there are a few specific things
2166
01:31:19,947 --> 01:31:22,616
that may indicate,
um, that,
2167
01:31:22,750 --> 01:31:25,219
still there's a chance
that he is D.B. Cooper.
2168
01:31:25,353 --> 01:31:26,988
If we debunk those, then--
2169
01:31:27,121 --> 01:31:29,123
then I think
our options do shrink.
2170
01:31:29,256 --> 01:31:31,025
And if you analyze
the facts
2171
01:31:31,158 --> 01:31:34,729
and his commitment
to this dig,
2172
01:31:34,862 --> 01:31:38,699
um, you think,
"Yes, it's true. It's real.
2173
01:31:38,833 --> 01:31:41,769
This individual
is D.B. Cooper.
2174
01:31:41,902 --> 01:31:43,871
You know, we were disappointed
at the end of the day
2175
01:31:44,005 --> 01:31:47,641
because in three hours
we didn't solve a mystery
2176
01:31:47,775 --> 01:31:49,677
that had been going on
for 48 years.
2177
01:31:49,810 --> 01:31:51,178
So we felt negligent.
2178
01:31:51,312 --> 01:31:53,080
But in reality,
you know, we went out there
2179
01:31:53,214 --> 01:31:56,050
and gave it, you know,
a good effort and, uh, again,
2180
01:31:56,183 --> 01:31:57,885
it doesn't mean
that it's not there.
2181
01:31:58,019 --> 01:31:59,687
It just means
we didn't find it.
2182
01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:02,590
So we, right now,
today, don't know.
2183
01:32:03,057 --> 01:32:04,759
So what we need to do
is fall back
2184
01:32:04,892 --> 01:32:06,527
and do some fact checking
on some of the things
2185
01:32:06,660 --> 01:32:08,062
-that he's told us.
-[man on phone] Hey.
2186
01:32:08,195 --> 01:32:10,664
Hey, um, we're doing
some fact checking...
2187
01:32:11,465 --> 01:32:14,535
and does he have
his brother's number?
2188
01:32:14,668 --> 01:32:16,137
Does Rod have
his brother's number
2189
01:32:16,270 --> 01:32:17,638
or any phone numbers?
2190
01:32:17,772 --> 01:32:18,939
-[man] 360.
-Yep.
2191
01:32:20,608 --> 01:32:22,143
-[man] 387.
-Yep.
2192
01:32:22,276 --> 01:32:24,912
[man] But he is, again,recouping from, uh,
2193
01:32:25,046 --> 01:32:26,680
prostate surgery
2194
01:32:26,814 --> 01:32:29,083
and he wants to recoupa little bit.
2195
01:32:29,216 --> 01:32:31,952
Okay, that's fair.
We'll call him first.
2196
01:32:32,086 --> 01:32:33,988
[phone line rings]
2197
01:32:34,121 --> 01:32:35,856
And this is his brother,
Jack,
2198
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:38,092
who just got out of
prostate surgery two days ago.
2199
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,594
So if he's all hopped up,
2200
01:32:40,728 --> 01:32:42,063
he might be telling us
the truth.
2201
01:32:42,196 --> 01:32:45,900
-[Babs] Hello?
-Hey, is Jack available?
2202
01:32:46,033 --> 01:32:47,768
[Babs] Uh, no he's not,who's this?
2203
01:32:47,902 --> 01:32:49,270
Uh, my name is Mike Rocha
2204
01:32:49,403 --> 01:32:51,172
we're doing some research
2205
01:32:51,305 --> 01:32:55,209
on the D.B. Cooper hijacking
back in 1971.
2206
01:32:55,342 --> 01:32:57,044
-Are you familiar with that?
-[Babs] Uh-huh.
2207
01:32:57,178 --> 01:32:59,914
-We're talking to Rod and...
-[Babs] Oh.
2208
01:33:00,047 --> 01:33:02,283
...Rod claims
to be D.B. Cooper.
2209
01:33:02,416 --> 01:33:04,785
[Babs]
Oh, no he's not.
2210
01:33:04,919 --> 01:33:06,654
Do you have any--
I mean-- is he--
2211
01:33:06,787 --> 01:33:10,758
has he had this manifestation
in his mind for a while?
2212
01:33:10,891 --> 01:33:12,793
[Babs]
Yeah, yeah, for a long time.
2213
01:33:12,927 --> 01:33:16,931
Right. Do you-- I mean,
do you guys have facts about,
2214
01:33:17,064 --> 01:33:20,101
the-- where he was the day
that it happened or anything?
2215
01:33:20,234 --> 01:33:23,003
[Babs] No,but he's definitely not.
2216
01:33:23,137 --> 01:33:24,738
Uh, yeah, I mean,
2217
01:33:24,872 --> 01:33:26,273
we've spent
the last couple days with him,
2218
01:33:26,407 --> 01:33:28,843
trying to, you know,
corroborate his story.
2219
01:33:28,976 --> 01:33:32,379
What is the family's view
on this?
2220
01:33:32,514 --> 01:33:35,382
[Babs] The family's viewis that he's nuts. [laughing]
2221
01:33:35,517 --> 01:33:38,619
I mean-- what--
has he always been crazy
2222
01:33:38,752 --> 01:33:40,988
-or, um--
-[Babs] Uh, no.
2223
01:33:41,122 --> 01:33:44,258
He was in a car wreckwhen he was about 18...
2224
01:33:44,391 --> 01:33:45,926
-Right.
-...years old.
2225
01:33:46,060 --> 01:33:47,661
[Babs]
And, uh, he...
2226
01:33:49,697 --> 01:33:52,967
uh, he went forwardin the backseat
2227
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:54,835
and thenwhen he went backwards
2228
01:33:54,969 --> 01:33:56,837
he hit his head real bad.
2229
01:33:56,971 --> 01:33:58,372
[Babs indistinct]
2230
01:33:58,507 --> 01:33:59,974
[Mike] We got a hold
of his sister-in-law.
2231
01:34:00,341 --> 01:34:03,010
And she described an accident
that Rodney was in
2232
01:34:03,144 --> 01:34:04,912
and he sustained
a brain injury.
2233
01:34:05,614 --> 01:34:07,915
Which really sheds
some light
2234
01:34:08,048 --> 01:34:10,117
on our view of him.
2235
01:34:11,785 --> 01:34:14,755
Now it's possible
he is a little bit delusional.
2236
01:34:14,889 --> 01:34:16,257
[interviewer]
You're so detailed
2237
01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:18,425
with everything
and that's why I'm just--
2238
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,060
I'm so interested
2239
01:34:20,194 --> 01:34:21,428
as why some of
your family members
2240
01:34:21,563 --> 01:34:23,197
might not believe
that you are
2241
01:34:23,330 --> 01:34:24,899
or some people might not
believe that you are.
2242
01:34:25,032 --> 01:34:26,767
Well, my brother's wife,
Barbara Bonnifield,
2243
01:34:26,901 --> 01:34:28,169
wants to protect
their name.
2244
01:34:28,836 --> 01:34:31,205
They're Christians,
they have a Christian--
2245
01:34:31,338 --> 01:34:32,940
they go to church,
2246
01:34:33,073 --> 01:34:34,808
my mom and dad
went to church there and stuff.
2247
01:34:34,942 --> 01:34:37,211
She's known all along
that I'm D.B. Cooper.
2248
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:39,313
I had called her
2249
01:34:39,446 --> 01:34:41,849
about three months
before this episode happened.
2250
01:34:42,249 --> 01:34:43,784
I said,
"I'm goin' down there
2251
01:34:43,918 --> 01:34:45,019
and digging my money
up by the river."
2252
01:34:46,153 --> 01:34:47,688
Before I even met you guys.
2253
01:34:47,821 --> 01:34:49,757
And-- and that's--
that's what I told her.
2254
01:34:50,424 --> 01:34:53,694
She never answered me,
she just is kinda like,
2255
01:34:53,827 --> 01:34:55,296
"Okay, protect the family.
2256
01:34:55,429 --> 01:34:57,198
Protect the family name,
you know."
2257
01:34:57,331 --> 01:34:58,999
[interviewer]
She said that, uh,
2258
01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:00,701
the reason why you're claiming
to be all this
2259
01:35:00,834 --> 01:35:01,969
is because
of your car wreck.
2260
01:35:02,102 --> 01:35:03,404
No, that's not true.
2261
01:35:03,538 --> 01:35:06,473
Car wreck happened
in 9th grade,
2262
01:35:06,608 --> 01:35:09,176
going from 9th grade
on Military Road,
2263
01:35:09,310 --> 01:35:11,345
we got hit sideways
with a woman that was driving,
2264
01:35:11,478 --> 01:35:13,247
her mother was there.
2265
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:16,417
And his name was Johnson.
Uh, her name was Johnson.
2266
01:35:16,551 --> 01:35:18,485
She ran a stop sign.
2267
01:35:21,355 --> 01:35:22,823
-[tires squeaking]
-[glass shattering]
2268
01:35:28,862 --> 01:35:31,198
My fault.
The accident was my fault.
2269
01:35:31,332 --> 01:35:33,467
It was an accident.
Accidents are accidents.
2270
01:35:33,602 --> 01:35:35,436
[Rodney] [echoing]
I got hit in my head and, uh,
2271
01:35:35,570 --> 01:35:37,438
I was dizzy for, like,a couple years after that
2272
01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:39,340
taking Dilaudid pills.
2273
01:35:39,473 --> 01:35:41,275
Pandora's box.
2274
01:35:41,408 --> 01:35:43,277
You open that box,it'll happen all over again.
2275
01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:44,979
[driver] [echoing]
Please calm down! Okay?
2276
01:35:45,112 --> 01:35:47,147
I know your gal left you,
I'm so sorry.
2277
01:35:47,281 --> 01:35:50,150
What the fuck, Rodney!
I told you no more bullshit!
2278
01:35:50,284 --> 01:35:51,418
You're gone!
2279
01:35:51,553 --> 01:35:53,120
[Rodney] 138 kidnapping cases,
2280
01:35:53,254 --> 01:35:54,955
you'll neverget out of prison.
2281
01:35:55,089 --> 01:35:56,957
You wouldn't even seethe light of day.
2282
01:35:57,091 --> 01:35:58,926
[young Rodney] I'd sityour ass down if I were you
2283
01:35:59,059 --> 01:36:00,427
and fix that crooked-asstoupee while you're at it.
2284
01:36:00,562 --> 01:36:02,162
[pilot 1] It was at that point,
we believe,
2285
01:36:02,296 --> 01:36:05,966
that with the money
strapped to his chest,
2286
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,202
he then jumped
from the aircraft.
2287
01:36:08,335 --> 01:36:10,804
Appreciate it!
See you down the road, boss!
2288
01:36:10,938 --> 01:36:12,106
Come away with me, Rodney.
2289
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:15,209
[hyperventilating]
2290
01:36:15,342 --> 01:36:17,278
I love you,
Rodney Bonnifield.
2291
01:36:17,411 --> 01:36:21,081
-[Rodney indistinct]
-[tense music playing]
2292
01:36:22,416 --> 01:36:25,252
That's it.
48 years of runnin'.
2293
01:36:25,654 --> 01:36:29,790
Now the FBI will look for me
and they will look hard.
2294
01:36:31,225 --> 01:36:32,493
And I ain't goin' easy.
2295
01:36:33,394 --> 01:36:35,195
Run D.B., run.
2296
01:36:36,564 --> 01:36:38,866
Run D.B., run.
2297
01:36:40,467 --> 01:36:42,069
Run D.B., run.
2298
01:36:45,507 --> 01:36:47,241
Run D.B., run.
2299
01:36:49,043 --> 01:36:50,911
Run D.B., run.
2300
01:36:57,951 --> 01:37:03,057
♪ Runnin' down the roadgot the wind in my hair ♪
2301
01:37:03,190 --> 01:37:06,927
♪ Got enough fuel for Reno,babe I'll meet you there ♪
2302
01:37:09,463 --> 01:37:14,868
♪ Tell you most peoplewouldn't get this high ♪
2303
01:37:15,002 --> 01:37:16,403
♪ And I'm tailin'down the highway ♪
2304
01:37:16,538 --> 01:37:18,505
♪ Got this gleamin my eye ♪
2305
01:37:20,675 --> 01:37:23,010
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2306
01:37:23,143 --> 01:37:26,280
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2307
01:37:26,413 --> 01:37:28,583
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2308
01:37:28,717 --> 01:37:32,554
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2309
01:37:32,687 --> 01:37:38,092
♪ Run, oh keep runnin'won't ever get caught ♪
2310
01:37:38,225 --> 01:37:41,830
♪ I'm gonna keep runnin''til the wheels come off ♪
2311
01:37:44,198 --> 01:37:49,503
♪ I'm heading straight west,baby, into the sun ♪
2312
01:37:49,637 --> 01:37:55,476
♪ I'm on the freewayinside of a car ♪
2313
01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:57,911
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2314
01:37:58,045 --> 01:37:59,647
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2315
01:38:01,448 --> 01:38:03,450
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2316
01:38:03,585 --> 01:38:07,087
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2317
01:38:07,221 --> 01:38:08,922
♪ Well my mamashe done told me ♪
2318
01:38:09,056 --> 01:38:12,960
♪ I was born to lose ♪
2319
01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:15,028
♪ All throughoutmy lonely life ♪
2320
01:38:15,162 --> 01:38:17,364
♪ Damn, my womansinging the lonely blues ♪
2321
01:38:17,498 --> 01:38:19,567
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2322
01:38:19,701 --> 01:38:21,536
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2323
01:38:23,303 --> 01:38:25,406
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2324
01:38:25,540 --> 01:38:29,577
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2325
01:38:33,180 --> 01:38:34,982
♪ Whoo,keep running, boy ♪
2326
01:38:36,417 --> 01:38:38,152
♪ Got that look in your eye
2327
01:38:41,188 --> 01:38:43,658
♪ Run, run, baby
2328
01:38:43,792 --> 01:38:45,993
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2329
01:38:47,060 --> 01:38:49,664
♪ Run, run, run
2330
01:38:49,798 --> 01:38:52,567
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2331
01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:54,602
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2332
01:38:55,670 --> 01:38:58,138
♪ Run, run, run
2333
01:38:58,272 --> 01:39:00,340
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2334
01:39:00,474 --> 01:39:02,577
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2335
01:39:04,378 --> 01:39:10,150
♪ I've got a plan baby,make things right ♪
2336
01:39:10,284 --> 01:39:13,721
♪ Finding out whograbbed my case of dynamite ♪
2337
01:39:16,123 --> 01:39:20,160
♪ Criss-crossing baby,jumping out of my seat ♪
2338
01:39:21,796 --> 01:39:24,965
♪ Skyjacking babygoing down for the win ♪
2339
01:39:27,267 --> 01:39:29,436
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2340
01:39:29,571 --> 01:39:33,073
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2341
01:39:33,207 --> 01:39:35,242
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2342
01:39:35,375 --> 01:39:38,646
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2343
01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:40,347
♪ Well my mamashe done told me ♪
2344
01:39:40,481 --> 01:39:43,116
♪ I was born to lose ♪
2345
01:39:45,152 --> 01:39:46,754
♪ All throughout my life
2346
01:39:46,888 --> 01:39:49,056
♪ Damn, my womansinging the lonely blues ♪
2347
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:51,225
♪ Run, runrun, run, run, run ♪
2348
01:39:51,358 --> 01:39:54,729
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2349
01:39:54,863 --> 01:39:57,097
♪ Run, runrun, run, run, run ♪
2350
01:39:57,231 --> 01:40:01,001
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
2351
01:40:01,134 --> 01:40:06,406
♪ Run, run, runD.B., D.B. run ♪
2352
01:40:06,541 --> 01:40:09,243
♪ Run, run,run, run, run, run ♪
2353
01:40:09,376 --> 01:40:14,414
♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪
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