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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,010 --> 00:00:02,450 Congratulations! He's been charged. That fella you tipped us off about. 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,509 Have you not heard? Apparently another body's turned up. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,750 I bet he'd love to see you. 4 00:00:07,799 --> 00:00:11,390 - I wondered about writing to him. - You should. 5 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:13,269 A couple of weeks ago, that new Miss Wealand. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,190 Asking Ryan questions about his dad. Have you met her? 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,350 It's her. 8 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:18,390 I've done things. 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,710 Is it to do with those women? 10 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,750 You'll visit me, won't you? In prison. 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,140 I don't think you'd like prison. 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,429 Ah. 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,549 Long story sideways. Our Ryan has been coming home from school 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,429 talking about Tommy Lee Royce as this poor misunderstood fella 15 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:02,549 that we all need to forgive. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,269 Someone in this school is putting ideas into his head. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,189 Someone left a birthday present, an expensive birthday present, 18 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:11,030 on our doorstep with a card "from Dad". 19 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:14,430 Now, he is starting to think of that evil, twisted, murdering bastard 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,750 as his father because some deluded tw... 21 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:20,430 Someone in this school is filling his head 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,819 with deeply inappropriate ideas. 23 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,870 Do you recognise that person? 24 00:01:31,879 --> 00:01:34,189 - No. - It's a woman, it ain't a lad. 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,789 Our Clare thinks it looks like Miss Wealand, your new TA. 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,629 That's someone in the toyshop in Hebden buying exactly the same toy 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,469 that was left on our doorstep two weeks ago "from Dad". 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,430 Now, obviously she could have been buying it 29 00:01:45,479 --> 00:01:46,950 for some completely other reason. 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,710 But it's a bit of a coincidence, isn't it? 31 00:01:48,759 --> 00:01:51,469 Has Ryan said that it's her that's been talking about his dad? 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,629 No. It's delicate. I can't talk to him about it. He gets angry with me. 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,829 Look, this is how insidious it is. I'm the baddie. 34 00:01:56,879 --> 00:01:58,990 Look. I'm not saying you're wrong, Catherine. 35 00:01:59,039 --> 00:02:02,150 But Miss Wealand is a very kind, caring, lovely woman, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,829 she came to us with an excellent CV. 37 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,269 I'm sure she is, I'm sure that's how she operates. 38 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,110 Her and every other deluded nutcase that's ever groomed a kiddie. 39 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:10,469 - Groomed? - Well, it's what it is. 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,789 If every time they have a one-to-one reading session, 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,590 she's encouraging him to think about his "dad" in some misguided, 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,949 - sentimental way... - Hang on, look, we don't know that 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,310 that is what's happening. Why would anybody do that? 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,069 Cos people are weird. 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,389 People are mad, and they don't always have it 46 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:26,189 tattooed across their forehead. 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,229 The staff in this school are fully aware of the situation with Ryan. 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,629 Does she work part time? 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,430 Yes, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. 50 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:35,710 - What does she do on her days off? - I've... I don't know. 51 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:37,229 - Where does she live? - Catherine. 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,349 - Does she talk about her private life? - Not to me. 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,310 You see, when that present appeared on our doorstep and I saw that 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,870 card, my first thought is... 55 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:45,710 "This is someone who visits him in prison." 56 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:47,590 I can't believe she visits anyone in prison. 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,349 This is someone he's manipulated and... 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,670 Let me introduce you to her. Come and meet her, please, 59 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:52,829 come and see for yourself. 60 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,750 Honestly, Catherine, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised. 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,389 No, cos we'll know soon enough if it's her, because the DIU are 62 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,629 investigating everybody he has any contact with. 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,469 In the meantime, if you could find someone else to read with him, 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,949 I'd be very grateful, because every second -- if it is her, 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,550 and maybe it isn't, but if it is her -- 66 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:09,949 every second he spends with her, 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,550 she is encouraging him to think about this man as his father. 68 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,189 This psychopath, this man who's done nothing but destroy people's lives. 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,750 This man who threw petrol over him 18 months ago. 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,629 Someone here, for whatever reason, is encouraging him to think that 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,069 he is basically an OK guy and that I am some nasty, angry bitch 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,909 for doing my damnedest to try and protect him from him. 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,099 OK. 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,469 I can't talk to her, I can't get involved, 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,229 I need to let the DIU deal with it, but I need you to be aware. 76 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,550 Right. 77 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:09,509 ♪ There's a tower block overhead 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,120 ♪ All you've got's your benefits and you're barely scraping by 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,720 ♪ In this trouble town Troubles I've found 80 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:31,470 ♪ Stuck in speed bump city Where the only thing that's pretty 81 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:33,990 ♪ Is the thought of getting out. ♪ 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,750 - You all right? - Yeah. 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,389 - You seem a bit preoccupied. - I'm fine. 84 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:47,670 - You do know we're not going to get a cup of tea, don't you? - Yeah, well... 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,470 I just want to make it clear 86 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:53,149 to Alison that I am still dealing with them scrotes, 87 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:58,509 despite Daryl's sophisticated, delicate efforts to take 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,699 the law into his own hands. 89 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Sarge. 90 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,509 Was it like that when you arrested him? 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,790 I don't know. 92 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,110 I can't remember. 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,160 I've an idea it was parked the other way round. 94 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,509 Hello? 95 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Alison? 96 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Daryl? 97 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,079 Hello? 98 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,720 Alison? 99 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Alison, can you hear me? 100 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:23,029 Alison, it's Catherine Cawood. 101 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,709 Sergeant Cawood. 102 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:28,589 Alison, listen, love, listen to me, 103 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:30,629 I want you to squeeze my hand if you can hear me. 104 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,829 Check upstairs. See if there's anyone else, 105 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:35,220 anyone injured. And be careful. 106 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:45,709 Bravo November 4-5. Urgent assistance required. 107 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:49,110 Far Sunderland Farm, up Wainstalls, off Cold Edge Road. 108 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:51,629 I need an ambulance, there's a 40-something woman, 109 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,670 Alison Garrs, suspected overdose. 110 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,550 Diazepam, not sure how many, 111 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,509 she seems to have washed them down with vodka and whisky. 112 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,230 Her pulse is weak, but she's conscious and breathing. 113 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,750 Alison? 114 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,069 Alison. 115 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:07,509 There's also a male. 116 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,790 I'm fairly certain it's her son, Daryl Garrs. 117 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,149 Fatal gunshot injury to the back of the head. 118 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,629 Possible weapon at the scene. I need F-Sup here to prove. 119 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,790 I need the on-call DI, I need the duty SIO, I need a CSI, 120 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,079 I need any available troops to come and secure the scene. 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 God knows what's happened... 122 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,350 .. but it's carnage. 123 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:29,670 'I've got all that for the log, Sarge. 124 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,670 'Is there anything else?' 125 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,509 I'll keep you posted. 126 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,029 Alison? Who's done this, Alison? 127 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:37,709 Who's done this to Daryl, Alison? 128 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,230 - No... - Alison? Can you hear me? 129 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,709 You put your arm round me, come on. 130 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:46,829 - Upstairs is clear! - Let's get her out of this. 131 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:49,550 - I thought you weren't supposed to move people. - Just...! 132 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 - Where shall I get hold of her? - Man up, princess, use your initiative! 133 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,790 'Ambulance on its way to you now, 4-5, from Keighley. 134 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:02,389 'ETA 16 minutes.' 135 00:08:02,439 --> 00:08:03,550 Keighley?! 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,000 'They're all tied up in Halifax.' 137 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,750 Get your mobile out, dial 999. 138 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,269 Alison! I need a paramedic talking to me, 139 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:17,470 I need to know what the latest is with an overdose. 140 00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:22,110 Hello, there, it's Constable Shafiq Shah here, collar number 9242, I've got a lady here, she's taken... 141 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,470 - Diazepam, whisky, vodka. - .. diazepam, whisky, vodka. 142 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:26,670 We need advice, ambulance is going to be 16 minutes. 143 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,709 - Come on, don't fall asleep on me, I need you awake. - Conscious, but struggling to stay with us. 144 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:34,549 Alison, listen. Alison, who shot Daryl? 145 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,539 Who did that to Daryl? 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,230 I don't know. 147 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:40,269 Who was here? Did you see what happened, Alison? 148 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,710 Who was here? 149 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:43,549 Nobody. Nobody was here. 150 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Right, you need to induce her to vomit -- yeah, then what? 151 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,029 Then you... Then clear the airway 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,990 and put her in the recovery position. 153 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:53,269 OK... Tell you what, you go back inside 154 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,789 and get some water, and a blanket. 155 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:59,509 And try not to-to tread on anything... like the floor, 156 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,070 any more than you have to. 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,669 'The request's gone in to F-Sup, 4-5. CID've been informed and they're on the way. 158 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,149 'I've also put the request in for a CSI. Is there anything else I can help you with?' 159 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,190 What's the best way to make someone sick? 160 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,519 - 'Stick your fingers down their throat?' - Oh, yeah, and get my hand bitten off? 161 00:09:15,639 --> 00:09:18,159 OK, Alison. Listen to me. 162 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,549 I need you to be sick. 163 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,720 No, no, no, no. 164 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:31,519 No. Alison. I know it's not pleasant. 165 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,789 I just... want to... lie down. 166 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,470 You can lie down, but I just need you to be sick first. 167 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:40,840 No. 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,750 Can you stick your fingers down your throat for me? 169 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:46,940 No. 170 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,470 I can't let you go to sleep until you've been sick, Alison. 171 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:54,460 You're not lying down until you've been sick. 172 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,950 Alison. 173 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,960 - Sh. It's fine. - No, stay awake, Alison! 174 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:04,909 Right. Who shot Daryl? Alison. 175 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Alison? 176 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,590 Alison. 177 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,070 I shot Daryl. 178 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,000 You? You shot...? You? 179 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,200 You shot Daryl? You... You shot... 180 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,379 Why, Alison, why would you do... Why would you do that? 181 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,470 Bravo November 4-5. Could you contact Mr Shepherd or DI Shackleton 182 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,830 at Norland Road and tell them 183 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,750 there's a vehicle here that could be involved in Operation Syracuse? 184 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:15,399 A Peugeot 205. 185 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:18,159 It's red. 186 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:20,940 It's damaged. 187 00:11:21,919 --> 00:11:23,590 'Will do, 4-5.' 188 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,149 Alison, did you really? 189 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,470 Alison. 190 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,000 I'm going to have to caution you. 191 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:47,179 OK. 192 00:11:49,039 --> 00:11:50,840 I'm arresting you. 193 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Do you understand? I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder. 194 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:01,220 You don't have to say anything. 195 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,470 But it may harm your defence 196 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:06,190 if you do not mention when questioned... 197 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,840 something you later rely on in court. 198 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,539 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 199 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,279 I don't feel so good. 200 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:43,509 Steve. Can I borrow you for a bit? 201 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:47,899 What's...? Has there been a development? 202 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,110 A woman, up Wainstalls, has just shot her own son 203 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:55,789 in the back of the head. 204 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,230 By accident? 205 00:12:57,279 --> 00:13:00,950 No. She's taken an overdose, pissed out of her skull. 206 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,230 And apparently, 207 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,549 the reason she did it -- she's just told Catherine Cawood -- 208 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,279 is because the son told her about "what he did to those women". 209 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,230 Is he dead? 210 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,750 Well dead, by the sound of things. 211 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,509 Jesus. 212 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,080 I know. 213 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,629 I need everyone in the briefing room. 214 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Apparently, he also said he "didn't do that Vicky Fleming one". 215 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:33,159 Can I get everyone in the briefing room now, folks, please? Thank you. 216 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,509 And he told his mother he wouldn't have had to do that last one 217 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,399 if people hadn't "kept thinking that he'd done that Vicky Fleming one". 218 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:48,429 We need to reassess everything we've got on Vicky Fleming. 219 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,230 We need to find this mysterious boyfriend one of her colleagues at work mentioned. 220 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:55,480 The one we thought Vicky must have been making up. 221 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:34,759 How's it going up there? 222 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,669 Like Piccadilly Circus when I left. 223 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,190 More detectives than primetime TV. 224 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,759 I think they'll be there a while. 225 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,909 Are you OK? 226 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 She shot her own child in the back of the head. 227 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,070 Are you still seeing that therapist? 228 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Yes! 229 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,039 Yeah. 230 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,710 I've got some intel for you. Tommy Lee Royce's Scottish visitor 231 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:16,990 is a woman called Frances Drummond. 232 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:19,950 45 years old, she's a pharmacist from Linlithgow. 233 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,470 Well, she was until very recently. 234 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:24,830 They've sent a photo. 235 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,639 And I'm wondering if it's that woman in that CCTV from the toyshop. 236 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,990 So, if that's Frances Drummond... who's "Miss Wealand", then? 237 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:35,309 Well... 238 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,100 she's invented Miss Wealand, hasn't she? 239 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:40,669 Mrs Beresford told me this morning, 240 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 "She came to us with an excellent CV." 241 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Mrs Beresford isn't somebody who won't check out references. 242 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:53,750 Shit. 243 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:55,639 Shit. 244 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,149 Hello? 245 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,710 You're not going to believe this, it's mental. She's mental. 246 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:02,029 Who's mental? 247 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,389 Well, not Miss Wealand, because Miss Wealand, Cecily Wealand -- 248 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,840 a qualified teaching assistant from Linlithgow -- is dead. 249 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,230 'What?' 250 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:16,309 Dead, and had her identity stolen. 251 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,549 So who's... 252 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,389 She is called Frances Drummond. Also from Linlithgow. A pharmacist. 253 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,830 God knows, don't ask. 254 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,389 And she... visits Tommy Lee Royce in Gravesend 255 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,269 and now lives in Hebden, as Cecily Wealand. 256 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,350 Shit! 257 00:16:32,399 --> 00:16:33,909 - 'Oh, shit.' - I know. 258 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,429 No. I mean, do you want me to get round to t'school? 259 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,230 No. No, no, no, I'm just waiting for some intel from East Lothian. 260 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:44,629 They're talking to Cecily Wealand's partner. 261 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:46,309 Well, widower. 262 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,309 I need a copy of the death certificate, 263 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,509 and then CID'll go in to arrest her for fraud. 264 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,070 Wow. Fraud? 265 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,149 'Yeah. Fraud by false representation.' 266 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,389 We'll deal with whatever the hell she thinks she's been 267 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,710 doing regarding our Ryan after we've dealt with that. 268 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:00,509 Hang on, she's, she's, she's... 269 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:01,990 'She's targeted him.' 270 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:08,309 It's properly creepy, she's obtained a job she's not qualified for, 271 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,029 'she's stolen a dead woman's identity' 272 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,750 specifically because this woman 273 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:17,430 had the right kind of qualifications to allow her to get 274 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,549 close to Ryan so she could fill his head with pap about Tommy Lee Royce. 275 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,279 Who she, Frances Drummond, visits in Gravesend. 276 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,430 Phone, I've gotta go, bye, bye-bye. 277 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:45,440 So... Cecily Wealand was Frances Drummond's sister. 278 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:50,309 48 years old, she had a stroke nine months ago. 279 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Her partner... 280 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,440 Her husband... thinks when she died, Cecily... 281 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,349 He was in pieces, and Frances helped with a lot of practical stuff, 282 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,910 and he thinks that's when she might have got her hands on various 283 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,299 bits of personal documentation. 284 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:16,869 Right -- let's send 'em in to make the arrest. 285 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,109 Have you got a number for this Mrs Beresford? 286 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,910 I'll ring her and warn her they're coming. 287 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,069 Then I'll get on to the prison liaison officer. 288 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,019 They need to let Gravesend know he's been grooming this woman. 289 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,829 Sad, isn't it? No criminal record. 290 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,150 She's held down a perfectly respectable job 291 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,589 for upward of 15 years. 292 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,279 And then... 293 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:41,109 .. she does this mad thing. 294 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,700 And for what? 295 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,349 45 minutes once a fortnight with a psychopath. 296 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,269 - 'Hello.' - Yes! Hello. It's Mike Taylor. 297 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:59,190 I've got POLSA team pulling the place apart. 298 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,470 There's all sorts of stuff in his bedroom 299 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:04,269 and chances are there'll be stuff he's hidden as well. I think... 300 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:07,430 Dare I say it, I'll be surprised if this isn't him. 301 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,750 Have you had time to think through a media strategy? 302 00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:12,309 Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news... 303 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,109 - Did you fast-track that DNA swab they took last week? - I did, yeah. 304 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,789 'Good. Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news, 305 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:20,990 'I want images of Vicky Fleming out there big time. On every news channel. 306 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:22,750 'I want the date that flat was burnt out' 307 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:24,190 seared into people's brains. 308 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,150 I want people thinking back to that night, 309 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,109 what they were doing that night. 310 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,750 We just didn't get that message out there big enough last time, 311 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:32,069 somebody must have seen her. 312 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,390 Somebody must have seen or heard something. 313 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,670 Yeah. Yep. 314 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,839 Because if they didn't... God knows. 315 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,069 You know -- whoever burnt that flat out knew exactly what 316 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,670 they were doing as regards destroying evidence. 317 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,829 'And whoever mutilated her body knew what this lad was doing to these other women.' 318 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,670 I'm looking at who's here... all doing their jobs. 319 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,630 And I'm thinking about everybody there, everybody on the team, 320 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,589 'my team, in the office. 321 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,029 'Might not be a man! Which one of 'em would do that?' 322 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:05,029 Which one of 'em would be capable of it? 323 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:08,069 Well, there are other explanations. 324 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,559 Yes, but... Address the question. 325 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Well, your first instinct is nobody. Nobody's capable of that. 326 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,509 But then the truth is... anybody's capable of anything. 327 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:22,700 In the right circumstances. 328 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:24,670 So, who, then? 329 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,549 Oh... I've gone all creepy now! 330 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:28,710 You're making me feel like maybe I've done it. 331 00:20:28,759 --> 00:20:31,230 I know. It's that mad, isn't it? So come on. 332 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:33,509 'Who? Why would I do it?' 333 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:35,670 - You? - 'Let's start with me.' 334 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,190 Under what circumstances might I end up doing that? 335 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,430 'I haven't, by the way. Although I would say that.' 336 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,430 Right, well. You'd do it... 337 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,910 if you wanted to get rid of somebody and disguise it. 338 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,150 Somebody... who'd upset you, obviously. 339 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,470 I mean... 340 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:54,269 The way she was strangled, it was... 341 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:56,150 Not like it was an accident, was it? 342 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Vicky Fleming had John Wadsworth's number on her mobile phone. 343 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,789 'He accounted for it. 344 00:21:02,839 --> 00:21:06,069 'He did an investigation at the building society three years ago 345 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,150 'when he was on the economic crime unit, 346 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,710 'and it isn't even like the number was ever used.' 347 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,309 Well, there you go, that's a perfectly reasonable... 348 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,750 'But people use secret shagging phones, don't they? 349 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:19,349 'That they could destroy. 350 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,829 'In a fire.' 351 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,670 And the thing is, his marriage has been a bit shit lately. 352 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,720 Oh, well, better arrest him, then, eh, boss(!) 353 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:28,509 'I know.' 354 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:30,029 I've known the man 23 years, 355 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,079 you feel like washing your mouth out, don't you? 356 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,039 After you. 357 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,309 These gentlemen need to talk to you. 358 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,789 This is... Miss Wealand. 359 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:46,670 Frances Elizabeth Drummond. 360 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,079 Sorry? 361 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,950 I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud by false representation, 362 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,950 contrary to section two of the Fraud Act 2006. 363 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,829 You do not have to say anything. 364 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,990 But it may harm your defence if you do not mention 365 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:04,309 when questioned something you later rely on in court. 366 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,309 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 367 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,950 Do you have a mobile phone? 368 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,309 Ryan Cawood needs to talk about his father. 369 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,470 He needs someone who will listen to him. 370 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:14,710 You've been here under false pretences. 371 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:16,029 Think about Ryan. 372 00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:19,430 I have to explain that to the parents and to the governors and to the children. 373 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,710 Think about Ryan. 374 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:21,789 They liked you. 375 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:23,390 Have you a mobile phone? 376 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,109 In my handbag. 377 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,630 And a coat? 378 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,910 - Staffroom. - Do you want me to...? 379 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,630 Would you mind? 380 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,630 So what'll happen? 381 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,309 They'll charge her, then they'll bail her. 382 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,960 And then what? 383 00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:47,990 And then... 384 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,990 .. somebody might need to pop round to her house 385 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:54,869 on Upper Brunswick Street and have a quiet word with her 386 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,920 about taking the high road back to Linlithgow. 387 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:00,670 And will that be you? 388 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,799 Well, you know me, I wouldn't want her to break her bail conditions. 389 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:09,990 She won't be allowed within 500 yards of Ryan 390 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:12,680 and/or members of his family, so... 391 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:26,349 Eh, you'll not credit. I looked in on Winnie. 392 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,000 She's only gone and got Ilinka a job. 393 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,710 - How? - Cleaning at White Lion. 394 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:34,029 How? 395 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:36,269 Gordon popped round. Four doors down. 396 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:40,910 And he knows Tanya -- I think it's her uncle -- and she's manager. 397 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,349 So, Ilinka went round there with him and Bob's your uncle. 398 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,269 I said, "Can you get me a job, Winnie?" 399 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:49,990 So, what, is she stopping? 400 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:51,750 I know, that's what I said. 401 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:55,910 And Winnie goes, "Well, we've got the alarm now, haven't we? 402 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,910 "And I have asked Catherine... 403 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240 "to not bother sleeping in that conservatory any more." 404 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,039 Are you all right? 405 00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:12,539 Just an odd day. Wi' that there this morning. 406 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,190 Shot her own kid's head off. 407 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,829 Your own kid. 408 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,279 What does it take to do that, eh? 409 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,750 I mean, obviously, 410 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,349 it takes finding out you've given birth to a serial nutter. 411 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,309 But then, after she'd explained that, she goes, 412 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,630 "Only he didn't do that fourth one, that Vicky Fleming. 413 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,589 "He wanted people to know that wasn't him." Like... 414 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,079 "Oh, that's all right, then. As long as he didn't do that one." 415 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,900 God alone knows what she's been through. 416 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:48,829 So who did? 417 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,079 Well, that's the 64 million question now, isn't it? 418 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,680 I'll start cooking some tea. 419 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,750 - Oh... - Frances, I'm not here as a police officer, 420 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:56,509 I'm here as Ryan's grandmother. I want to sort this out. 421 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,789 I want to understand you and I want you to understand me. 422 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,309 I know you've never had a criminal record. 423 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,710 I know you've held down a very responsible, 424 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,430 perfectly respectable job for the last 15 years. 425 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,789 I want to understand why you've done what you've done, 426 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,109 I want to know what you want. 427 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,349 And I want you to know things about me. 428 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,589 - Can I come in? - No... 429 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,589 Or we can go down the road and get a cup of tea somewhere 430 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,799 if... if you'd prefer. 431 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,150 Your people came here. They took things. 432 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,990 You've had a long day. Probably quite an unpleasant one. 433 00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:56,430 I won't take up any more of your time than I need to. 434 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,670 - OK. - What I think, you see, is that you're not a bad person. 435 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,630 Far from it. 436 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,589 And you believe what you've done, you've done for the best. 437 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,950 Ryan should have a relationship with his father. 438 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,869 However difficult things are. 439 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,750 Look, I realise everything you know about... 440 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,400 this, us, you've been told by... him. 441 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,279 Tommy Lee Royce. And... 442 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,460 Do you mind if I sit down? 443 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,750 And I realise that you are in... a relationship of some sort 444 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:29,029 with him. 445 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,019 We're getting married. 446 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:37,670 OK, look. I know you're probably not going to accept 447 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,349 a lot of the things I tell you right now. 448 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,069 But obviously, I have a very different perspective on it all, to him, and I want you to hear it. 449 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,519 Whether you accept it or not. OK? 450 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,829 He's a sex offender. 451 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,710 He raped my daughter. 452 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:52,990 He was very fond of your daughter. 453 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,069 No. No. He took advantage of her. Brutally. 454 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,269 Brutally. And after Ryan was born, she took her own life. 455 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,069 That was nothing to do with him. He was in prison by then. 456 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,589 It had everything to do with him. She was traumatised. 457 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,150 We are going to have different versions of the same story, 458 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200 but please credit me... 459 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,029 I was there when she gave birth. 460 00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:17,480 And after. 461 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,190 And I know what she went through. 462 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,470 You deprived him of having a relationship with his child. 463 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,029 You never even let him know he'd been born. 464 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:29,599 Tommy Lee Royce is a psychopath. 465 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,039 He's a murderer and he's a sex offender. 466 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,269 And you must know, you must realise that. 467 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,349 I think you have allowed yourself to be deluded by this dangerous man 468 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,990 because you're infatuated with him. 469 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,309 You might not want to believe that he raped my daughter, 470 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,390 but you do know -- you DO know -- that he raped Ann Gallagher, 471 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,910 and that he murdered Kirsten McAskill 472 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,150 in the most HIDEOUS manner -- and Lewis Whippey, and Brett McKendrick. 473 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,630 And he tried to murder me. 474 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,869 Lewis Whippey was the one who raped Ann Gallagher. 475 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,750 And he was the one who murdered Kirsten McAskill. Not Tommy. 476 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,630 That's not what the court decided on very solid forensic evidence. 477 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,750 Tommy did kill Lewis Whippey and Brett McKendrick 478 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,269 but only in self-defence. 479 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,920 He attacked YOU only in self-defence. 480 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,349 OK. So obviously that's his version, and clearly that's what you're choosing to believe right now. 481 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,549 Which worries me, Frances, because it makes you -- 482 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:23,150 a woman who all your life 483 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,990 appears to have been law-abiding, logical, kind, normal -- 484 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,349 it makes you seem a little bit... unhinged. 485 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,750 And certainly misguided 486 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:33,750 if that's what you're prepared to believe. 487 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:35,670 Do you want to know what I believe? 488 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,190 I believe that no-one is born evil. 489 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,390 He may have done things, I know he's done things, and, yes, 490 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,869 he will inevitably have put his own slant on it all 491 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,950 and made it seem not as bad as it might really have been. 492 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,470 But we all do that, we're all human. But he isn't evil. 493 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,589 He's a product of his childhood, and he had an awful childhood. 494 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,069 But he isn't intrinsically evil. We condemn the sin, not the sinner. 495 00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:03,390 With help and kindness, 496 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,750 I believe he will become the person he was always capable of being. 497 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,910 Good and kind and gentle and thoughtful. 498 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,630 That's what I see 499 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,619 when I visit him. When I look into his eyes. 500 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:20,150 I see no evil. Not a trace of it. 501 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,869 Surely it would benefit him 502 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,920 and Ryan if they could have a good relationship. 503 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:27,990 Frances, you're old enough to be his mother. 504 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,269 I think you are actually older than his mother was when she died. 505 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,269 Does that not... ring alarm bells? 506 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,750 - Does it not worry you? - Why should it? 507 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,750 He's using you. He's used you to get close to Ryan. 508 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,589 He's groomed you. You've been groomed. 509 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,549 You've been picked, you've been chosen, for what he can get out of you. 510 00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:48,990 He could be very fond of Ryan if you'd let him. 511 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,910 Oh, no, no, Frances. You can't 512 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,829 begin to imagine on how many levels that will never happen. 513 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,069 Why are you so angry? So negative? 514 00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,390 No, I'm not. It's you who's deluded about this dangerous man 515 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,630 because he's pretty. 516 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Oh... You're jealous. 517 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,829 No. No, no, I'm shocked, I'm disappointed 518 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,349 that a woman of your obvious intelligence and ability 519 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,670 can allow herself to be fooled by this... 520 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,319 this... this... 521 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,509 You know, tell me this. 522 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,990 If he looked like, I don't know, Ian Brady, or Peter Sutcliffe 523 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:27,869 or Jimmy Savile. 524 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,259 Or some other sad, twisted fuck. 525 00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,259 Would you believe a single word he said? 526 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:37,829 But he doesn't look like them. 527 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,630 On the inside he looks exactly like them. 528 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,269 And one day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon 529 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:48,470 the scales will fall away from your eyes, because they always do. 530 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,710 And you'll realise how foolish he's made you look. 531 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,549 And how much damage he's inflicted on you. 532 00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:59,240 A nice, kind, normal person who this really shouldn't have happened to. 533 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,910 TV: 'At 17 minutes past four this afternoon, 534 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,589 'the remains of the dead man were removed from the farmhouse. 535 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,269 'A woman who also lives at the address remains under police 536 00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,549 'protection at a hospital in Halifax. 537 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:18,950 'I'm not in a position at this moment to tell you any more 538 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,869 'about the body that was found at Far Sunderland Farm this morning. 539 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,549 'However, I can tell you that at this time, we are not 540 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:27,190 'looking for any suspects in relation to the deaths 541 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,190 'of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Elise May Hughes. 542 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,710 'We are, however, still appealing to the public for 543 00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,589 'any information regarding the death of Victoria Fleming. 544 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,309 'We're asking people to think back to the evening and the night 545 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,230 'of Thursday the 12th of September. 546 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,910 'Anyone who lives in Ripponden, or visits Ripponden 547 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,829 'to check their diaries, and think of anything suspicious they might have seen or heard. 548 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,029 'If anyone was out in Ripponden that evening, particularly anyone out into the small hours 549 00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,349 'on Thursday 12th September, 550 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,140 'we would be very keen to talk to them.' 551 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,349 What've I done? 552 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480 What've I done? 553 00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,960 Eh, what've I done? Nothing! 554 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,400 Why me? 555 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Why me, you bastard?! 556 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,390 You bastard! You bastard! 557 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,309 You fucking... BASTARD! 558 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,549 You bastard! What've I done? What have I done? Nothing! 559 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:47,910 Fuck all! 560 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,990 Nothing, why, why?! You bastard! 561 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:53,710 What've I done?! 562 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,349 Everything all right? 563 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,000 Yeah. Just... 564 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,829 Neil wanted to tell you something. 565 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,789 I knew Vicky Fleming. 566 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,429 - Morning. - Morning. 567 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,070 I was just nipping through to talk to one of your lot, actually. 568 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,030 I've got some information that might be relevant about Vicky Fleming. 569 00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,190 I don't know if it helps but it's interesting. 570 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,269 - If you can pass it on to Mr Shepherd. - Sure. 571 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,719 It's a friend of me sister's, this... um... bloke... 572 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,670 Are you all right? You look like you've got flu. 573 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,710 Yeah. I think I'm starting with it. Go on. 574 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,190 He's called Neil Ackroyd, he lives down Hebden Bridge. 575 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,309 He's happy to come in and be interviewed, although... 576 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,869 Well, it's sensitive. 577 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,829 He knew Vicky Fleming. This is about four or five years ago. 578 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,590 He was having a fling with her. He was married. 579 00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:22,349 And apparently she tried to blackmail him, well, she did blackmail him. 580 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,469 She must have drugged him and taken photos of him. 581 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:25,750 Compromising photos. 582 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,630 And then threatened to e-mail them to everyone he knew -- 583 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,550 all his family and friends -- if he didn't pay up. 584 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,429 She'd downloaded his contacts. Anyway. He couldn't pay what she was asking, and she ruined his life. 585 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,800 He lost his family, lost his job, his dignity. He became an alcoholic. 586 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,869 That's his name and number, if you want to pass it on. 587 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,190 Cos whoever killed her could've been someone she was blackmailing. 588 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,639 Thank you. 589 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,510 You want to get yourself home to bed. 590 00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,699 I know. Thank you. Thanks. 591 00:36:13,469 --> 00:36:14,469 Morning. 592 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,760 Morning... ma'am. 593 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:22,869 That John Wadsworth. 594 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,789 He's not this detective you told our Daniel about, is he? 595 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,150 Why? 596 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,989 No, I just... I think you did well to avoid that one. 597 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,190 Why? 598 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,789 I just gave him some information that I thought might be 599 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,750 pertinent to the investigation 600 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,710 about this fella Vicky Fleming blackmailed, years ago. 601 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,150 And he has this glazed look in his eye. Like... durr. 602 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:42,909 - What, and you think it's him? - Who? 603 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,550 The fella she blackmailed? 604 00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,630 No. No. 605 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:49,480 But I'm thinking... 606 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:56,550 .. whoever did it could be someone else she's blackmailed. 607 00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,949 Whereas he's really not interested, right over his head. 608 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,269 You can do a lot better than that, love. 609 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,519 I didn't fancy him, if that's what you're thinking. 610 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,139 Good morning, you lucky people! 611 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,309 Morning. 612 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,630 Can I help? 613 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,750 Yeah. I hope so. I'd like to speak to someone. 614 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,469 I've got some information that might be relevant 615 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:06,480 regarding the... um... Victoria Fleming. 616 00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,750 Right, this morning. We've got two people who've come forward. 617 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,030 We've got a... Gary Sugden. 618 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,949 Yeah. Who's the landlord of the Wills O'Nats pub up Slaithwaite. 619 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,800 And Gemma Tomkinson, who works at the Travel Inn at Ainley Top. 620 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,309 Both of them are saying they've seen a woman who they believe might have been Vicky Fleming 621 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,110 at their establishments, with a man. Both are talking about a man smartly dressed, professional, 622 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:37,550 shirt and tie, suit, clean-shaven, white, late 40s, 623 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,190 early 50s, at around the time she went missing. 624 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,869 She -- this Gemma -- describes the man as not looking very well. 625 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,670 So, interviewing those two this morning takes priority. 626 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,150 This Gemma also reckons they might still have some CCTV, 627 00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:51,670 even though it's more than 28 days since it happened. 628 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,519 She's checked her records, and this was... 629 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,550 .. three days before the flat was burnt out. 630 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,190 Three days before Vicky Fleming last turned up at work. 631 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,550 We've also had a number of calls from people who 632 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,070 were in Ripponden that night, these are all new people, 633 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,920 people who did not come forward last time. 634 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,230 Sorry, this is... probably mad. But when we were doing house-to-house 635 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,510 weeks ago, me and John Wadsworth -- 636 00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,750 and I'm not just saying this because he stood me up -- 637 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,309 he was never off his phone, making furtive phone calls. 638 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,989 And I remember saying to Shaf, "He's having an affair." 639 00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,030 And then like... a couple of days later, 640 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:36,349 a week after my mother died, 641 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,070 he was asking me how he could get his hands on £1,000. 642 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,070 And he looked like shit. 643 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,309 And I know everyone's busy thinking outside the box, 644 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,550 but the fact does remain that it'd make a lot more sense 645 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,070 if it was someone inside the investigation. 646 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,639 Like he was being blackmailed. 647 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,989 Catherine. There's a fella. I've put him in there -- Graham Tattersall. 648 00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,989 He says he's got some information about Victoria Fleming, 649 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,309 and he wants to see a detective, but they're still all 650 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,869 up in the briefing and he's itching to get off to work. 651 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,920 - Could you...? - Sure. 652 00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,800 It might be relevant. I'll mention it. 653 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,550 Mr Tattersall? I'm Sergeant Cawood. 654 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:21,869 If you want to give me a few brief details I can 655 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,719 pass your information on to CID, and somebody'll contact you. 656 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:27,550 Er. OK. 657 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,949 Well. The thing is... 658 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,280 I've been having a... in a... having a... in a... 659 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,630 .. relationship. 660 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,630 She's married. I'm married. 661 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:47,510 But... And her husband was having an affair with someone else. But... 662 00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,349 Anyway, he was away from home one night -- 663 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,230 on obs, he said. He's a police officer. 664 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,230 And I was round at her house. 665 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,920 Cos normally when he's on obs, he's out all night. So... 666 00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,590 This particular night... 667 00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,349 he turned up, one in the morning. 668 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,869 Yeah. 669 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,710 Which was... exciting. 670 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,869 But the point is, she rang me. Last night. 671 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,989 Amanda, his wife, did. And we checked our diaries. 672 00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:20,510 And it's the same night that Victoria Fleming went missing. 673 00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,349 Well, the same night her flat was burnt out. 674 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,789 Sorry, you think this bloke might have something to do with Vicky Fleming 675 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,150 - because he caught you in bed with his wife at one in the morning? - Yes. 676 00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:32,349 What's his name? 677 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,070 John Wadsworth. 678 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,909 Paul, can you interview this Gemma Tomkinson? 679 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,630 John, can you phone these people back who've left messages? 680 00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:45,869 I'm just going to go to the chemist and get something for this, this cold. 681 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,070 Oh, yeah. You do look like shit warmed up. 682 00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,150 - I shan't be long. - Go home. 683 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:51,269 I'm fine. 684 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,789 Alastair... 685 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,230 He did this. After they'd arrested that lad, that first one, 686 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,110 that Saturday morning. He must have thought he'd got away with it... 687 00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:04,110 He came round our house and he knocked me about. 688 00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,949 And he was going, "Where is she, then? Where's this woman I've been having this affair with?" 689 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,739 I shan't be long. 690 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,780 Obviously by then she was dead, so he could say that. 691 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,639 John? 692 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,039 John! 693 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,269 John. 694 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,719 Watch out! 695 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,829 John, wait. 696 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,619 I just want to talk to you! 697 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:41,909 John! 698 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,150 I just want to talk to you. 699 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:44,719 John! 700 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,760 Fucking idiot! What you doing? 701 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,510 Jesus! 702 00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,630 Bravo November 4-5. 703 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:00,230 I'm chasing -- it's complicated -- 704 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,599 'but I'm chasing DS John Wadsworth, who I believe has been involved in the murder of Vicky Fleming.' 705 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:09,550 Follow that BMW! Put your foot down. 706 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,340 Units to Sowerby Bridge railway station. 707 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,630 For once in your life, in the right place at the right time, 708 00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:20,710 doesn't it feel good, eh? 709 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,630 God knows what his plans are, but this is a dead end. 710 00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,280 Oh, bollocks! 711 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:36,260 Oh! 712 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:41,880 Throw it broadside! 713 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,119 Handbrake! 714 00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:55,559 B-R-A-K-E. 715 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,150 He's heading straight for the tracks. 716 00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,599 4-5, do NOT follow! 717 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:22,519 Bravo November 4-5, do not follow. 718 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,480 Bollocks. 719 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,510 You don't come near me! 720 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:11,190 John, it's not that high, you're not going to... 721 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,550 You're just going to break your legs and make a mess. 722 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:14,829 - Piss off. - Shit. 723 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920 'He's on the bridge opposite the nick, he looks like he's going to jump.' 724 00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:20,280 Shit. 725 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,949 Come on, we both know she was blackmailing you! 726 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,110 I burnt the evidence, didn't I?! 727 00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,389 There's other people's evidence. 728 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,710 There's this Neil bloke I told you about, for one. 729 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,070 And there's... more than likely there's others. 730 00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:37,989 She spiked my drink! 731 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,389 Took photos of me looking stupid and she was going to send them 732 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,750 - to people! - I know. - Everybody! 733 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,309 People I work with, my mother, my kids, 734 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,550 people I don't even know that well! 735 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:53,590 They're just people -- people you don't even like -- 736 00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,510 they're just people you've had on your phone for years! 737 00:45:56,559 --> 00:46:00,389 I know! I know. I know how she operated. 738 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,070 Look, she ruined people's lives, I tell you, this bloke I know... 739 00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:07,599 I asked her to just let me go and she wouldn't, and I begged her! 740 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,429 And I didn't mean to kill her. 741 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,710 Well, I didn't go in there to kill her, 742 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,239 it just... 743 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,800 And so I did this ridiculous thing to her. 744 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:26,860 Hideous. 745 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,389 And God knows that's not me. 746 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,110 That's not what I'm like. I'm not... I'm not a monster, 747 00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:34,829 - I never have been. - John... 748 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,750 You come any closer, I'll take you with me! 749 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,829 You were blackmailed. It was provocation. 750 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,909 That's mitigating circumstances. 751 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,110 And it sounds to me like manslaughter. 752 00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,750 It's ten years -- less. 753 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,710 And you and me both know you could be out. 754 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,099 Yeah, but I'll never work again. 755 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,869 - Have you got children? - Oh! 756 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,309 No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 757 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,349 Shut up! 758 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,280 Sorry, sorry. 759 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,030 I've... 760 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:09,190 I've-I've... I've not done any negotiating courses. 761 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,639 Have you? 762 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,639 Yeah. 763 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,829 Suicide intervention training. 764 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,239 So... So... 765 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,429 So what should I be saying to you? 766 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,630 You should be telling me that you're here to make sure I get out of this alive. 767 00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:33,230 Yeah, well, I am. I am here for that. 768 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,750 You should use my name a lot. 769 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,079 OK. John. 770 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,869 You've got to be assertive. Reassuring. Empathetic, and kind. 771 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,670 And you've got to listen. You've got to be a good listener. 772 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,230 And you tell them that even though they can't see a way forward, 773 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,550 you can. 774 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,989 And how in 24 hours' time, 775 00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:59,840 it'll all seem very different to what it might look like now. 776 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:01,909 But you see, it won't. 777 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,960 This can only get worse. 778 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,429 How many people have you talked down over the years, John? 779 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,469 - 17. - Wow. 780 00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:12,949 And I never lost one. Not one. 781 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,760 One lad jumped before I got there, but... apart from him. 782 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,230 So, what you going to do? 783 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,150 Mess my record up before I've even started? 784 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,389 You take your time, I'll just... I'll just stand here. 785 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,829 OK? I'm not going anywhere. All right? I'll just listen. 786 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,429 Or I'll talk. Whichever you prefer. 787 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,280 You tell me, John. 788 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,110 I love my kids. 789 00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:45,840 Yeah. 790 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,619 Oh! 791 00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:04,619 Really need ETA on that ambulance, thank you. 792 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,699 - You all right, Sarge? - Yeah. 793 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,820 There but for the grace of God. 794 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,230 Really? 795 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,230 He stuck a broken bottle inside her 796 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,829 and then prayed to God someone else'd get copped for it. 797 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,750 That isn't what I said to him, by the way. 798 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,000 I did try and talk him down. 799 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,760 I'm pleased to hear it. 800 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,880 You all right? 801 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,099 I thought I'd got through to him. I thought he was stepping down. 802 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,630 Then he just went limp 803 00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:21,280 and this odd look came over his face. 804 00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:28,739 He said, "I loved my kids." 805 00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,780 What a shit week! 806 00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:39,389 Sorry. 807 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,190 I've had some more information through. From the DIU. 808 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,239 About some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 809 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,670 Oh, yeah? 810 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,590 Interesting reading. 811 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,880 And I've had a message from the prison liaison service as well. 812 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,630 It's all right, son, sit down. 813 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,190 It's bad news, I'm afraid. 814 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,590 Pending an inquiry into some of the people who visit you, 815 00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,710 it's been decided -- by the Wing Supervisor, and others -- that 816 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,190 your visits and phone calls will be suspended for a while. 817 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,789 As of now. 818 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,469 Why? 819 00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,659 That's all I can tell you. 820 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,070 Suspended? What? 821 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,429 Everyone who visits me? 822 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,429 - As I've explained. - Phone calls? 823 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,510 - Yeah. - Why? 824 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,630 - I've told you everything I can. - Why? Why? Fucking why? 825 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:40,019 Calm down. Don't do that, Tommy. 826 00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,300 Calm down, Tommy! 827 00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:07,070 Hello, Frances. 828 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:08,860 What do you want? 829 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,030 These are some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors. 830 00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,550 That one -- Gina Flynn -- 831 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,550 she's a 45-year-old accountant from Warwick. 832 00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,539 Turns out he's engaged to her as well as you. 833 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,309 And that one -- Justine Niewinski -- she's from Essex. A student. 834 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,800 Media and politics. She's 23. 835 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,320 He's engaged to her as well. 836 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,670 And that one -- Lena Dixon -- 837 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,309 fitness instructor from Leicestershire. 838 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,230 Also engaged to him. 839 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,110 You take care of yourself, OK? 840 00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:05,119 - Hiya, Sarge. - Do you want to go get yourself a cup of tea? 841 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,960 Hello, Alison. 842 00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,219 How are you? 843 00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,550 I can't begin to imagine how you must feel. 844 00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:47,110 But I just wanted to tell you that... 845 00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:48,900 I had a daughter. 846 00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:52,559 That died. 847 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,269 She was 18. 848 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,469 And I know it's not the same, 849 00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:02,039 but it's all I've got to relate it to. 850 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,559 And I just wanted to say... 851 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,500 .. don't be short of someone to talk to. 852 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,510 If you want to. 853 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,190 You know where I am. 854 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,579 That's my number. 855 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960 You can always ring me. 856 00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,019 There's your post, sweet cheeks. 857 00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:06,469 You OK? 858 00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:13,469 It was odd the other day, talking to Alison in the hospital. 859 00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:14,719 Why? 860 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,820 She told me her story. 861 00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:25,199 You know -- yet another everyday story of country folk. 862 00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:30,860 Her dad. 863 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960 He interfered with her. 864 00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,619 Daryl was his son, not his grandson. 865 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,670 Jesus. 866 00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:46,579 She brought up this kid, this child, this... 867 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,440 .. aberration. 868 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,630 That she loved and hated because... 869 00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,679 what else could she do? 870 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,389 And she was terrified of him finding out, so... 871 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,309 she tried to stop him bothering with the local lads. 872 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,230 So they picked on him. And they knew anyway. 873 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,550 They knew something, somehow. 874 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,079 So they became like outcasts, pariahs. 875 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,670 Something to poke fun at. 876 00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:29,179 I said, "Did he ever know?" 877 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,900 And she said she thought he'd worked it out. 878 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:38,139 Although they never talked about it. 879 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,940 She said, "Because I never had the language." 880 00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:49,920 And I thought, "Yeah. 881 00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:54,199 "I know." 882 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,989 - Can I get a dog? - No. 883 00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:09,550 Why? 884 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,429 Because you won't look after it. 885 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,869 No, I would. 886 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,269 I'll walk it and feed it and everything. 887 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,429 Yeah, for t'first week. 888 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,150 So I was thinking maybe a Rottweiler. 889 00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:22,070 Oh, are you? 890 00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:23,630 An Alsatian, then. 891 00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:25,469 - An orang-utan. - Oh, perfect. 892 00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:28,039 - OK, a Doberman. - Yeah, right. 893 00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:30,909 - A Great Dane? - No. 894 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,070 A Siberian Husky. A St Bernard! 895 00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:34,429 Ha! 896 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,349 Is that a yes? 897 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,429 - Why can't you get something smaller? - Like a pit bull? 898 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,829 No, like a goldfish. 899 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,230 Fish are rubbish! You can't talk to fish. 900 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,949 I need something with some more personality. 901 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,949 Granny. Granny! 902 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,840 I'd get him a dog just to shut him up if I were you, Mother! 71165

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