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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:29,047 --> 00:01:33,050 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding... 2 00:01:33,051 --> 00:01:35,761 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs... 3 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:36,604 is called back to order. 4 00:01:36,605 --> 00:01:38,190 We'll hear from our next witness. 5 00:01:38,191 --> 00:01:41,811 Will you please stand and raise your right hand? 6 00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:49,442 My aPOlogies. 7 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,611 Please raise your right hand. 8 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:53,829 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give... 9 00:01:53,830 --> 00:01:55,790 this committee will be the truth, the whole truth... 10 00:01:55,791 --> 00:01:58,743 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 11 00:01:58,744 --> 00:01:59,586 I do. 12 00:01:59,587 --> 00:02:00,921 Please state your name. 13 00:02:00,922 --> 00:02:05,333 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired. 14 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:08,961 Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement? 15 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:09,679 I have, sir. 16 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,426 You may enter it into the record at this time. 17 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:29,283 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee... 18 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:32,532 I want to thank you for the opportunity... 19 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:34,236 to speak with you today. 20 00:02:34,237 --> 00:02:37,582 I served in the military f... 21 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:44,497 I'm sorry, if I could just... 22 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:47,583 Sure, go ahead. 23 00:02:47,584 --> 00:02:49,302 Thank you, sir. 24 00:02:55,050 --> 00:02:57,802 I've always liked numbers. 25 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:00,272 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around... 26 00:03:00,273 --> 00:03:05,142 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me. 27 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:08,562 They help me understand decisions that are made... 28 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:13,364 and the impacts of those decisions. 29 00:03:13,944 --> 00:03:14,866 So, if it's all right... 30 00:03:14,867 --> 00:03:19,907 I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million. 31 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:21,409 That's the number of men and women... 32 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:26,038 who are currently sewing in our military. 33 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:27,790 555... 34 00:03:27,791 --> 00:03:30,840 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country... 35 00:03:30,841 --> 00:03:34,839 after having been attacked by another. 36 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,346 19... is how old I was when I enlisted. 37 00:03:40,303 --> 00:03:43,350 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time... 38 00:03:43,351 --> 00:03:46,192 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport... 39 00:03:46,193 --> 00:03:48,018 was destroyed by an l.E.D. 40 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:50,818 And then there's six. 41 00:03:52,274 --> 00:03:55,574 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was... 42 00:03:55,575 --> 00:03:58,448 that severed my spinal cord. 43 00:04:02,451 --> 00:04:07,207 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal. 44 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:12,168 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me... 45 00:04:12,169 --> 00:04:14,587 and a lot of soldiers like me. 46 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:16,306 Now, I'm not a military expert 47 00:04:16,307 --> 00:04:20,676 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs. 48 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:22,553 I'm just an ordinary American. 49 00:04:22,554 --> 00:04:24,430 And I understand that you've asked me here... 50 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:26,854 because you all have some questions for me, 51 00:04:26,855 --> 00:04:34,405 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question. 52 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:43,326 How the hell did this happen? 53 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:46,911 My fellow citizens, at this hour... 54 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:49,882 American and coalition forces are in the early stages... 55 00:04:49,883 --> 00:04:53,542 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free... 56 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:57,421 its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 57 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:00,382 The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe. 58 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:01,350 BROKAW} Shock and Awe. 59 00:05:01,351 --> 00:05:03,052 Shock and AWe.N Shock and Awe, indeed. 60 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:04,976 Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad... 61 00:05:04,977 --> 00:05:06,722 The massive military operation... 62 00:05:06,723 --> 00:05:08,474 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect. 63 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:10,184 Firing 600 Cruise missiles... 64 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:12,153 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal. 65 00:05:12,154 --> 00:05:14,485 [BROKA M A fearsome display of American military might. 66 00:05:14,486 --> 00:05:16,106 The scale of this attack... 67 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:18,234 is considerably higher than anything we've seen before. 68 00:05:20,614 --> 00:05:21,782 with these Cruise missiles. 69 00:05:21,783 --> 00:05:23,451 U.S. war planes unleashed... 70 00:05:23,452 --> 00:05:25,663 to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad. 71 00:05:25,664 --> 00:05:27,830 BLITZER} 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles... 72 00:05:27,831 --> 00:05:30,913 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs. 73 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:35,670 exactly what (he Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 74 00:05:37,634 --> 00:05:40,798 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country. 75 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:42,392 "RATHER} They're we" on their way to Baghdad. 76 00:05:42,393 --> 00:05:43,509 They have met resistance. 77 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,511 We can't leave the television... 78 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:49,723 every tank, every helicopter... Is that my son? 79 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:54,567 just a few short miles away... 80 00:05:54,568 --> 00:05:57,692 as U. S. Troops make their final push forward. 81 00:05:57,693 --> 00:05:59,655 We want to slaughter them all... 82 00:05:59,656 --> 00:06:02,617 those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq. 83 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:08,494 "Not in control of his military and of his government." 84 00:06:08,495 --> 00:06:11,871 BUSH} These are opening stagesNof what will be a broad... 85 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:12,794 and concerted campaign. 86 00:06:12,795 --> 00:06:17,042 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict. 87 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:19,295 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable... 88 00:06:19,296 --> 00:06:23,507 and free country will require our sustained commitment. 89 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:28,220 And you can know that our forces will be coming home... 90 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:31,521 as soon as their work is done. 91 00:06:33,977 --> 00:06:37,402 K. EeP movmg! Keep moving, Let's gm! 92 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:40,865 Where are they taking us? Shut up. Head down. 93 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:43,078 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off. 94 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:45,409 All right, all right. Are you a soldier? 95 00:06:45,410 --> 00:06:47,123 Journalist. Who do you work for? 96 00:06:47,124 --> 00:06:49,408 Knight Ridder. Never heard of it. 97 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,878 You should read more. 98 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:57,124 What is your name? 99 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,548 Jonathan Landay. 100 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:04,592 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay. 101 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:11,347 Exercise complete. 102 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:14,939 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise. 103 00:07:14,940 --> 00:07:16,858 And what you have just witnessed... 104 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:20,274 is a colossal failure of that exercise. 105 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,363 If a journalist is captured... 106 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,544 terrorists may keep you alive... 107 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:27,535 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom. 108 00:07:27,536 --> 00:07:31,121 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will. 109 00:07:31,122 --> 00:07:33,582 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you... 110 00:07:33,583 --> 00:07:36,876 how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors. 111 00:07:36,877 --> 00:07:38,415 Hence the name, Gray Man. 112 00:07:38,416 --> 00:07:39,210 Can you untie me? 113 00:07:39,211 --> 00:07:41,177 This could save your life one day, you understand? 114 00:07:41,178 --> 00:07:43,716 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at... 115 00:07:43,717 --> 00:07:46,717 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously. 116 00:07:46,718 --> 00:07:50,844 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job. 117 00:07:50,845 --> 00:07:53,847 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training... 118 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:54,940 is going to be very useful... 119 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:58,278 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples. 120 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,111 Both of the twin towers... 121 00:08:07,112 --> 00:08:09,909 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan... 122 00:08:09,910 --> 00:08:13,409 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes. 123 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,456 First, it was the North Tower that was struck... 124 00:08:15,457 --> 00:08:18,831 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building. 125 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:19,549 Good God. 126 00:08:19,550 --> 00:08:21,462 20 minutes later, the second building... 127 00:08:21,463 --> 00:08:24,631 the second tower in that Wor1d Trade Center complex... 128 00:08:24,632 --> 00:08:26,468 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school. 129 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:28,340 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea. 130 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:29,217 Why freak her out? 131 00:08:29,218 --> 00:08:33,267 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up. 132 00:08:33,268 --> 00:08:34,930 I love you. I love you. 133 00:08:34,931 --> 00:08:35,557 Okay. 134 00:08:35,558 --> 00:08:37,059 We should tell you that... 135 00:08:37,060 --> 00:08:38,559 we have gotten calls from people... 136 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:41,107 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us... 137 00:08:41,108 --> 00:08:42,568 that they have seen something... 138 00:08:42,569 --> 00:08:44,440 that they have described as an explosion. 139 00:08:44,441 --> 00:08:48,821 This is information we have not been able to confirm. 140 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,154 Get up. 141 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:30,069 Sorry, Dad. 142 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:32,488 Monday Night Football went long. 143 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:35,459 Let's clean this place up. 144 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:43,337 COMMENTATOR} Trade Center here in New York... 145 00:09:43,338 --> 00:09:44,628 have been hit by airplanes. 146 00:09:44,629 --> 00:09:48,092 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon. 147 00:09:48,093 --> 00:09:49,508 The Pentagon has been evacuated. 148 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:52,806 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower... 149 00:09:52,807 --> 00:09:57,513 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing. 150 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:58,972 Good Lord. 151 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:04,561 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight. 152 00:10:04,562 --> 00:10:07,406 Soldiers drink free. 153 00:10:09,192 --> 00:10:12,027 There are no words. 154 00:10:12,028 --> 00:10:15,948 Ail federal office buildings now... 155 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:19,040 all federal office buildings in Washington, D. C. 156 00:10:19,041 --> 00:10:21,914 Are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 157 00:10:21,915 --> 00:10:25,004 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe. 158 00:10:25,005 --> 00:10:28,003 The most important things to tell you if you just joined... 159 00:10:28,004 --> 00:10:31,097 in is that what has ail the makings of an extraordinarily� 160 00:10:31,098 --> 00:10:35,384 wail-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York 161 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:36,637 has taken place this morning. 162 00:10:36,638 --> 00:10:38,387 The Trade Centers here in New York... 163 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:41,392 the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed... 164 00:10:41,393 --> 00:10:45,362 after being hit by planes. 165 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:51,191 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder. 166 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:51,863 Is he there? 167 00:10:51,864 --> 00:10:56,989 Yeah, okay, well, tell him I'll try him back later. 168 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:58,240 Thank you. 169 00:10:58,241 --> 00:10:59,493 I just spoke with my wife. 170 00:10:59,494 --> 00:11:02,371 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house. 171 00:11:02,372 --> 00:11:04,621 What are they doing over there? 172 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,420 They're watching the White House. 173 00:11:06,421 --> 00:11:08,250 To see if it gets hit? 174 00:11:08,251 --> 00:11:08,752 YES. 175 00:11:08,753 --> 00:11:11,091 Jesus. All right, go home to your family. 176 00:11:11,092 --> 00:11:15,135 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away... 177 00:11:15,136 --> 00:11:16,385 from the windows, okay? 178 00:11:16,386 --> 00:11:18,594 Thanks, John. Yeah. 179 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:22,598 Okay. All right. Okay. 180 00:11:22,599 --> 00:11:26,852 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism... 181 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:27,729 not domestic. 182 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:30,232 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group... 183 00:11:30,233 --> 00:11:31,607 because it has long tentacles. 184 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:34,735 There are very few others that could have pulled this off. 185 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:35,953 Are we sending somebody to New York? 186 00:11:35,954 --> 00:11:39,243 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street. 187 00:11:39,244 --> 00:11:40,866 What's going on over at State? 188 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:41,787 Powell's in Peru. 189 00:11:41,788 --> 00:11:43,707 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible. 190 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:46,877 All right, what we need to do is track the President. 191 00:11:46,878 --> 00:11:49,499 Track his top people and find out... 192 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,251 who's responsible for all this. 193 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:53,799 We need as many sources at as many agencies... 194 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,221 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true. 195 00:11:57,222 --> 00:12:01,220 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! It's Al Qaeda. 196 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:03,565 It's definitely Al Qaeda. 197 00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:06,019 What the hell are you wearing? 198 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:08,018 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate... 199 00:12:08,019 --> 00:12:12,606 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars. 200 00:12:12,607 --> 00:12:14,274 So, I biked in. 201 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:18,403 We need to know how they pulled this off. 202 00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:20,906 Anybody needs to go home to their family... 203 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:22,741 feel free to do so. 204 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:25,118 Just came from the family. 205 00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:28,544 Let's get to work. 206 00:12:29,123 --> 00:12:29,999 It's Walcott. 207 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,593 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 208 00:12:32,594 --> 00:12:37,464 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 209 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:40,759 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. 210 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,728 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please. 211 00:12:42,729 --> 00:12:45,013 Yes, sir. Here you go. 212 00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:46,982 Thank you, son. 213 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:49,685 It's on the house, gentlemen. 214 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:50,187 Thanks. 215 00:12:50,188 --> 00:12:53,281 Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want. 216 00:12:53,282 --> 00:12:55,440 They must be scared. 217 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:58,610 They're Rangers. They're boys. 218 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:02,787 Our military is powerful and it's prepared. 219 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:04,538 The search is underway for those... 220 00:13:04,539 --> 00:13:05,831 who are behind these evil acts. 221 00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,458 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence.. 222 00:13:08,459 --> 00:13:12,334 And law enforcement communities to find those responsible... 223 00:13:12,335 --> 00:13:16,179 and to bring them to justice. 224 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:21,183 It's been 33 hours since the terrible... 225 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,470 and unprecedented attack on the United States. 226 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:26,731 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue... 227 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:31,476 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation. 228 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:33,605 And we're just beginning to understand... 229 00:13:33,606 --> 00:13:35,689 the extents of the catastrophe. 230 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:37,237 I feel like I haven't slept in a month. 231 00:13:37,238 --> 00:13:39,611 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town. 232 00:13:39,612 --> 00:13:41,695 What do you know about the preliminary plans... 233 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:42,572 to go after bin Laden? 234 00:13:42,573 --> 00:13:44,243 I don't have anything to give you on that yet. 235 00:13:44,244 --> 00:13:46,582 0k, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan... 236 00:13:46,583 --> 00:13:48,203 and how long do they project we'll be there? 237 00:13:48,204 --> 00:13:52,002 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are. 238 00:13:52,003 --> 00:13:55,584 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning... 239 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:58,128 hasn't been about Afghanistan. 240 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:00,803 Well, what's it been about? 241 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:02,721 Iraq? 242 00:14:02,722 --> 00:14:05,432 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon. 243 00:14:05,433 --> 00:14:07,349 In connection with the attacks? 244 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:09,812 Crackpot theories from people who don't know... 245 00:14:09,813 --> 00:14:11,901 what the hell they're talking about. 246 00:14:11,902 --> 00:14:13,518 It was Rumsfeld. 247 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,020 Really? 248 00:14:14,021 --> 00:14:16,610 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense... 249 00:14:16,611 --> 00:14:18,734 that think this had to be State-sponsored. 250 00:14:18,735 --> 00:14:22,402 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug... 251 00:14:22,403 --> 00:14:26,198 son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 252 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,412 the Prince of Darkness? 253 00:14:27,413 --> 00:14:29,122 Richard Perle. Right. Perle. 254 00:14:29,123 --> 00:14:31,370 And that nee-con over at the Project... 255 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,914 for the New American whatever the fuck... 256 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:35,337 New American Century, Bill Kristol. 257 00:14:35,338 --> 00:14:36,755 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol. 258 00:14:36,756 --> 00:14:41,213 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this. 259 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:42,261 Yeah, these think-tank boys... 260 00:14:42,262 --> 00:14:44,633 have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97. 261 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:48,720 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick... 262 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:51,019 a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 263 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:53,683 it's going to magically proliferate... 264 00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:54,731 and wind up protecting Israel. 265 00:14:54,732 --> 00:14:57,776 You got to give them credit for creative thinking. 266 00:14:57,777 --> 00:14:59,272 It's Ivory Tower crap. 267 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:02,364 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden... 268 00:15:02,365 --> 00:15:05,532 and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together? 269 00:15:05,533 --> 00:15:07,783 Let's find out if these dickweeds... 270 00:15:07,784 --> 00:15:10,075 are serious about Iraq, okay? 271 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,744 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq... 272 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:13,587 and neither is my boss. 273 00:15:13,588 --> 00:15:15,747 This is just something we're hearing. 274 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:16,465 From whom? 275 00:15:16,466 --> 00:15:19,292 Who told me or where is it coming from'? 276 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:20,710 Take your pick. 277 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:21,837 Someone at the Pentagon. 278 00:15:21,838 --> 00:15:24,005 In the Vice President's office? 279 00:15:24,006 --> 00:15:24,882 It's just theories. 280 00:15:24,883 --> 00:15:27,384 Are there any Senators talking to anyone... 281 00:15:27,385 --> 00:15:29,511 saying anything different? 282 00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:30,604 I know Powell's objected... 283 00:15:30,605 --> 00:15:34,726 to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan. 284 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:07,220 Go away. 285 00:16:07,221 --> 00:16:08,305 One question and I'm gone. 286 00:16:08,306 --> 00:16:10,019 I'm not talking to you on the record. 287 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:14,733 Anonymous source, intelligence community. 288 00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:16,850 You can't use my name. 289 00:16:16,851 --> 00:16:19,227 Never have, never will. 290 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:20,228 Or my ageHOY- 291 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:22,732 Pinky swear. 292 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:26,443 One question. 293 00:16:26,444 --> 00:16:30,665 Are you looking into an Iraqi connection? 294 00:16:31,699 --> 00:16:34,451 Who's the you in that question? 295 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,250 Are we in the United States? 296 00:16:36,251 --> 00:16:37,996 There are some people. 297 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,372 Are we in my agency? 298 00:16:39,373 --> 00:16:41,416 Not that I'm aware of. 299 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:44,336 Am I, personally? 300 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,837 No way. 301 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:48,715 Okay, the second part to the question. 302 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:49,799 No. 303 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,894 Thank you. 304 00:16:52,678 --> 00:16:55,147 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever... 305 00:16:55,148 --> 00:16:57,354 found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda? 306 00:16:57,355 --> 00:17:00,519 No one I work with would expect to find a link. 307 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,520 So, as far as you know... 308 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:03,362 there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden? 309 00:17:03,363 --> 00:17:04,778 There's nothing even circumstantial. 310 00:17:04,779 --> 00:17:06,742 To lump together a secular leader like Saddam... 311 00:17:06,743 --> 00:17:10,113 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply... 312 00:17:10,114 --> 00:17:13,457 to have no understanding of the Muslim world. 313 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:18,000 It's a bit timid. 314 00:17:18,001 --> 00:17:20,667 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet. 315 00:17:20,668 --> 00:17:22,916 Maybe it's just backroom speculation. 316 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:24,042 Pretty dangerous speculation. 317 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,133 Can't we hit it harder than this? 318 00:17:26,134 --> 00:17:27,879 The attacks were just 10 days ago. 319 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,469 Everyone's trying to play catch-up. 320 00:17:29,470 --> 00:17:31,010 Got to press our reliables. 321 00:17:31,011 --> 00:17:32,722 I'll reach out to The Italian Lady. 322 00:17:32,723 --> 00:17:34,933 You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record? 323 00:17:34,934 --> 00:17:37,307 I'm lucky to get her on deep background. 324 00:17:37,308 --> 00:17:41,059 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive. 325 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,356 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel. 326 00:17:43,357 --> 00:17:46,733 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter. 327 00:17:46,734 --> 00:17:50,157 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience... 328 00:17:50,158 --> 00:17:53,572 I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. 329 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:54,698 Hello. 330 00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:55,744 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan. 331 00:17:55,745 --> 00:17:57,492 I don't have anything for you. 332 00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,829 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story... 333 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,796 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq. 334 00:18:02,797 --> 00:18:05,088 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this. 335 00:18:05,089 --> 00:18:07,799 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this... 336 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,971 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication? 337 00:18:11,972 --> 00:18:14,094 Bye, Jonathan. 338 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,803 What'd she say? 339 00:18:16,804 --> 00:18:18,722 She sends her love. 340 00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:20,140 Across the nation... 341 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:21,688 flags have been flying off the shelves. 342 00:18:21,689 --> 00:18:25,604 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America. 343 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:30,066 At times like this, it's what we do in America. 344 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:33,361 We the People pull together. 345 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,456 They had a discussion in school today... 346 00:18:35,457 --> 00:18:38,241 about why America is so great, right? 347 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,909 Yeah, and what'd you say? 348 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:41,328 It's a free country. 349 00:18:41,329 --> 00:18:42,912 That's a great answer. 350 00:18:42,913 --> 00:18:44,581 That's Mama's boy. 351 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,166 May I be done now? 352 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:48,126 Not until I get a big hug. 353 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:51,588 Okay, after your mom gets a hug. 354 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:53,842 Whoa! 355 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,469 Proud of you, munchie. 356 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,893 Love you. 357 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:05,229 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school. 358 00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:06,145 What do you expect? 359 00:19:06,187 --> 00:19:08,360 Of course, there's going to be patriotism now. 360 00:19:08,361 --> 00:19:12,692 You want to call it patriotism? 361 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:13,535 Fine. 362 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:14,921 It smells a lot like nationalism to me. 363 00:19:14,945 --> 00:19:20,702 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war. 364 00:19:20,743 --> 00:19:23,462 Tore my country apart. 365 00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:48,978 You want some help? 366 00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,324 No, I'm okay, thank you. 367 00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:55,860 Okay, have a good night. 368 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:57,408 Good night. 369 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,621 How real is the Iraqi conversation? 370 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,040 There's an argument taking place. 371 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:12,085 Yeah? Who's winning it? 372 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:12,837 I couldn't say. 373 00:20:12,838 --> 00:20:17,173 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want.. 374 00:20:17,174 --> 00:20:20,552 To know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket... 375 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:26,401 or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad? 376 00:20:29,603 --> 00:20:31,896 I can't tell you anything. 377 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:33,991 I believe major acts of terrorism... 378 00:20:33,992 --> 00:20:36,901 against the U.S. are state-sponsored. 379 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:40,031 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind..." 380 00:20:40,032 --> 00:20:44,033 the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 381 00:20:44,034 --> 00:20:44,785 "which state?" 382 00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:50,331 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind. 383 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:53,209 This is an idea which in... 384 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,587 is gaining increased credibility. 385 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:57,046 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel. 386 00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:58,720 Jim Wooisey is going to Europe... 387 00:20:58,721 --> 00:21:00,559 to try to find a Sink between Saddam... 388 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,397 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 389 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:05,806 Is he freelancing? 390 00:21:05,807 --> 00:21:08,901 He was sent on an official government jet. 391 00:21:08,902 --> 00:21:10,393 Jesus, who sent him? 392 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:13,772 The deputy defense secretary. 393 00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:15,440 Can you meet for coffee? 394 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,194 H! Be in touch. 395 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,825 Hi, this is Warren Strobe! With Knight Ridder. 396 00:21:20,826 --> 00:21:21,863 I'm working on a story... 397 00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:24,242 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe. 398 00:21:24,243 --> 00:21:25,536 Do you know anything about that? 399 00:21:25,537 --> 00:21:28,625 DIPLOMAT} I didn't have anything to do with that. 400 00:21:28,626 --> 00:21:30,669 But you're aware that such a trip has taken place? 401 00:21:30,670 --> 00:21:34,709 DIPLOMAT} I can't be your only source on this. 402 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:37,759 All right, stay in touch. 403 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:40,715 Hey, John. 404 00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:42,639 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence... 405 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,479 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93. 406 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,599 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool. 407 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,184 This came from The Italian Lady? 408 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:52,526 And a diplomat who can confirm... 409 00:21:52,527 --> 00:21:53,645 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz. 410 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,273 What the hell is going on over at Defense? 411 00:21:55,274 --> 00:21:57,273 Question is, are they trying to figure out... 412 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,775 if there's any truth to their theory... 413 00:21:58,776 --> 00:22:01,823 or are they already convinced their theory is true? 414 00:22:01,824 --> 00:22:03,698 You're sure about this Woolsey trip? 415 00:22:03,699 --> 00:22:06,115 Positive. You have a third source? 416 00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:07,367 Yeah. Who? 417 00:22:07,368 --> 00:22:09,666 Jim Woolsey. 418 00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:25,762 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip? 419 00:22:27,596 --> 00:22:29,143 I figured you'd be calling... 420 00:22:29,144 --> 00:22:32,313 I just didn't think it would be this soon. 421 00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:37,188 How real is the chatter about Iraq? 422 00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:37,655 Very. 423 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:42,028 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us. 424 00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:46,077 How soon before Iraq becomes the focus? 425 00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,242 We need to blow something up. 426 00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:51,661 Not enough targets in Afghanistan. 427 00:22:51,662 --> 00:22:52,787 What about bin Laden? 428 00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:53,755 You take out bin Laden... 429 00:22:53,756 --> 00:22:57,502 interest in the war goes right down the shitter. 430 00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:01,424 REPORTER} A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora... 431 00:23:01,425 --> 00:23:03,011 bin Laden's suspected hideout... 432 00:23:03,012 --> 00:23:05,681 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man. 433 00:23:05,682 --> 00:23:10,138 U.S. B-52s pounding A! Qaeda positions from the air... 434 00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:11,603 while anti-Taliban tanks... 435 00:23:11,604 --> 00:23:13,313 and troops meet strong resistance... 436 00:23:13,314 --> 00:23:15,730 cave to cave, from A! Qaeda fighters. 437 00:23:15,731 --> 00:23:17,856 With yet more conflicting reports... 438 00:23:17,857 --> 00:23:22,025 on bin Laden's whereabouts. 439 00:23:22,026 --> 00:23:22,902 What you got there... 440 00:23:22,903 --> 00:23:25,451 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow? 441 00:23:25,452 --> 00:23:27,864 Yup. You got a lunch today? 442 00:23:27,865 --> 00:23:29,240 Not with you. 443 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,035 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State. 444 00:23:32,036 --> 00:23:32,956 There's a dry hole. 445 00:23:32,957 --> 00:23:34,579 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on... 446 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:37,415 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy. 447 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:38,383 Yeah, well, give my best. 448 00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:40,585 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl. 449 00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:41,881 Did you use punctuation this time? 450 00:23:41,882 --> 00:23:43,426 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you. 451 00:23:43,427 --> 00:23:47,216 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri. 452 00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:51,429 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan... 453 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:55,435 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay. 454 00:23:57,186 --> 00:24:00,440 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice... 455 00:24:00,441 --> 00:24:03,524 their fives are running' for their own. 456 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:08,196 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own... 457 00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:12,241 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... 458 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:16,329 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life. 459 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:19,753 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't... 460 00:24:19,754 --> 00:24:21,343 be the policemen to the world... 461 00:24:21,344 --> 00:24:24,462 but we feel we have a responsibility to... 462 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:25,755 Yeah, John Walcott. 463 00:24:25,756 --> 00:24:27,548 DIXIE} John! 464 00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:28,266 Dixie? 465 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:29,597 DIXIE} John, can you hear me? 466 00:24:29,598 --> 00:24:30,682 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 467 00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:33,143 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today... 468 00:24:33,144 --> 00:24:35,139 asking me what the fuck's going on. 469 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:36,854 Are you still in Afghanistan? 470 00:24:36,855 --> 00:24:37,934 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan... 471 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:39,480 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore. 472 00:24:39,481 --> 00:24:41,229 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age... 473 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,526 that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age? 474 00:24:43,527 --> 00:24:46,653 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror... 475 00:24:46,654 --> 00:24:51,280 from threatening America, or our friends and allies... 476 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:52,907 with weapons of mass destruction. 477 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:56,911 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom. 478 00:24:56,912 --> 00:25:00,378 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free... 479 00:25:00,379 --> 00:25:03,378 itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years. 480 00:25:03,379 --> 00:25:06,963 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets. 481 00:25:06,964 --> 00:25:08,762 We may never get him in our crosshairs again. 482 00:25:08,763 --> 00:25:12,352 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where? 483 00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:14,764 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since... 484 00:25:14,805 --> 00:25:18,275 September the 11th, but we know their true nature. 485 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:22,603 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind... 486 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,356 of stability that comes with the rule of law. 487 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:29,152 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these... 488 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:34,449 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 489 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:36,790 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 490 00:25:36,791 --> 00:25:37,874 You'll have to excuse me... 491 00:25:37,875 --> 00:25:41,748 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell. 492 00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:42,295 Sure. 493 00:25:42,296 --> 00:25:43,708 Anything else you need from me? 494 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:44,505 No, no, thank you. 495 00:25:44,506 --> 00:25:47,295 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on. 496 00:25:47,296 --> 00:25:47,920 Excellent. 497 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,514 And you feel confident that Afghanistan... 498 00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:51,674 will accept a Western-style democracy? 499 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:52,346 Absolutely. 500 00:25:52,347 --> 00:25:54,765 Just as confident as we are about Iraq. 501 00:25:54,766 --> 00:25:58,765 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious. 502 00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:01,184 No, no, no, that debate is over. 503 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:05,229 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how. 504 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:06,606 Good talking to you, Warren. 505 00:26:06,607 --> 00:26:09,201 Yeah, you, too, sir. 506 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:11,866 The president is going to invade Iraq. 507 00:26:11,867 --> 00:26:13,239 You got this from Looney Tunes? 508 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,366 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met... 509 00:26:15,367 --> 00:26:18,537 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with... 510 00:26:18,538 --> 00:26:22,001 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 511 00:26:22,002 --> 00:26:24,841 Do you think we can get enough to run the story? 512 00:26:24,842 --> 00:26:27,757 Unfortunately, I do. 513 00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:41,516 So much for the ceasefire. 514 00:26:41,517 --> 00:26:42,814 Yeah, well, really nice of us... 515 00:26:42,815 --> 00:26:46,690 to temporarily stop shooting at them, though. 516 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,005 What are you up to, Smucker? 517 00:27:08,006 --> 00:27:12,046 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today. 518 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:12,969 Yeah, how'd that go? 519 00:27:12,970 --> 00:27:16,515 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living... 520 00:27:16,516 --> 00:27:19,095 he was unusually quiet. 521 00:27:19,096 --> 00:27:21,305 He only talks to me. 522 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:25,017 Really? And what'd he tell you? 523 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:28,771 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it. 524 00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:32,400 Let me see it. 525 00:27:32,401 --> 00:27:36,571 Bin Laden's gone, isn't he? 526 00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:39,740 They missed him, didn't they? 527 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:45,339 He was here and they fucking missed him! 528 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,710 A senior U. S. Military official... 529 00:27:47,711 --> 00:27:50,173 "tells NBC News " Despite the crushing defeat... 530 00:27:50,174 --> 00:27:51,633 "of A! Qaeda forces at Tora Bora... 531 00:27:51,634 --> 00:27:54,800 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped... 532 00:27:54,801 --> 00:27:57,802 "across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge... 533 00:27:57,803 --> 00:27:59,223 "in a lawless no man's land... 534 00:27:59,224 --> 00:28:02,471 "ruled by renegade tribal warlords." 535 00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:03,723 It's official... 536 00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:06,396 this is the saddest event I've ever attended. 537 00:28:06,397 --> 00:28:09,020 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine... 538 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,396 and put my head in the oven. 539 00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:11,397 Okay, but before you do that... 540 00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:15,198 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about. 541 00:28:15,199 --> 00:28:16,569 He just walked in! 542 00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:18,571 Forget the wine, I'll kill myself now. 543 00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:23,576 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you. 544 00:28:23,577 --> 00:28:24,624 Pam, please don't. 545 00:28:24,625 --> 00:28:27,121 Warren! Hey! Hi. 546 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,836 Glad you could make it, come on over. 547 00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:31,961 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr. 548 00:28:31,962 --> 00:28:34,462 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist... 549 00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,012 and I'm gonna get another drink. 550 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:39,800 Hi, Lisa? 551 00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:41,769 Yeah. Yeah, nice to meet you. 552 00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:43,981 Hi... 553 00:28:44,306 --> 00:28:46,933 Did you ever make it into your apartment? 554 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:51,687 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 555 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:56,364 Yeah, I made it in okay. Good. Good. 556 00:28:57,194 --> 00:28:59,278 So, you're a journalist? 557 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,822 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridden. 558 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:04,075 Is that a magazine or a newspaper'? 559 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:09,413 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually. 560 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,165 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers... 561 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:14,460 and each one has the option to publish or not. 562 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:18,547 Okay. I've always wondered how that worked. 563 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:20,391 Yeah. 564 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:26,472 Hey, I got married when I was 22. 565 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:30,393 And we're only recently separated, so... 566 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:33,104 This is a little awkward for me. 567 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,230 It's okay. 568 00:29:34,231 --> 00:29:35,904 I'm a little out of practice. 569 00:29:35,905 --> 00:29:40,361 Why don't you start by asking me a question? 570 00:29:40,362 --> 00:29:43,662 Sure, yeah. 571 00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:47,745 Are you a Republican or a Democrat? 572 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:49,870 Try again. 573 00:29:49,871 --> 00:29:53,457 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her. 574 00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:54,334 She gave you her card. 575 00:29:54,335 --> 00:29:56,711 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business. 576 00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:59,422 At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day? 577 00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,387 What? So, call her? I should call her? 578 00:30:01,388 --> 00:30:03,259 What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 579 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,854 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 580 00:30:05,855 --> 00:30:08,014 than a guy who takes his time. 581 00:30:08,015 --> 00:30:09,267 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 582 00:30:09,268 --> 00:30:12,310 It's just that I'm getting a little tired... 583 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:13,904 of picking up your paper every morning... 584 00:30:13,905 --> 00:30:16,397 and seeing that you're not running our stories. 585 00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:17,445 I mean, last time I looked... 586 00:30:17,446 --> 00:30:21,239 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right? 587 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,203 The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 588 00:30:25,204 --> 00:30:27,494 If you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories. 589 00:30:27,495 --> 00:30:29,832 John, we've been through this already. 590 00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:31,080 Your stories don't fit... 591 00:30:31,081 --> 00:30:33,876 in with what we're doing over here right now. 592 00:30:33,877 --> 00:30:36,252 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth? 593 00:30:36,253 --> 00:30:37,877 What's the matter, Arthur... 594 00:30:37,878 --> 00:30:39,505 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore? 595 00:30:39,506 --> 00:30:41,589 And today, for the first time... 596 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:42,715 the administration provided... 597 00:30:42,716 --> 00:30:46,266 details for what I! Has always insisted was a connection... 598 00:30:46,267 --> 00:30:49,180 between Saddam Hussein and AI Qaeda. 599 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:50,181 How strong is that case? 600 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:52,272 REPORTER} Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says... 601 00:30:52,273 --> 00:30:55,237 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction... 602 00:30:55,238 --> 00:30:59,106 and accused the United States of using weapons... 603 00:30:59,107 --> 00:31:01,150 as a pretext to star! A war. 604 00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:05,488 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book? 605 00:31:05,489 --> 00:31:08,914 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit... 606 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:14,377 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment. 607 00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,375 What inspired you to write the book? 608 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,502 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army. 609 00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:21,564 What was the biggest difference between experiencing... 610 00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:26,384 the Battle of la Drang in person versus watching it in a theater? 611 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:29,480 The popcorn in la Drang was saltier. 612 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:31,022 Last question. 613 00:31:31,023 --> 00:31:33,104 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam... 614 00:31:33,105 --> 00:31:35,521 and what's happening today in Afghanistan? 615 00:31:35,522 --> 00:31:38,610 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate... 616 00:31:38,611 --> 00:31:42,781 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard... 617 00:31:42,782 --> 00:31:46,362 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam. 618 00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:47,080 Which is? 619 00:31:47,081 --> 00:31:51,867 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price. 620 00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:54,829 To what do I owe this unexpected visit? 621 00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:57,170 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph... 622 00:31:57,171 --> 00:31:59,586 from the world's most famous war correspondent. 623 00:31:59,587 --> 00:32:03,551 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story. 624 00:32:03,552 --> 00:32:07,427 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 625 00:32:07,428 --> 00:32:09,679 How do you like the job at State? 626 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,305 I love working for General Powell... 627 00:32:11,306 --> 00:32:13,272 and I hate working for Uncle Sam. 628 00:32:13,273 --> 00:32:14,765 You miss reporting? 629 00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:16,350 After 42 years, I thought... 630 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:17,568 I should take some time away from it. 631 00:32:17,569 --> 00:32:21,234 So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th... 632 00:32:21,235 --> 00:32:23,571 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke. 633 00:32:23,572 --> 00:32:26,070 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug. 634 00:32:26,071 --> 00:32:30,781 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here. 635 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:32,825 To make me envious? 636 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:34,702 To make you an offer. 637 00:32:34,703 --> 00:32:38,497 HANNSTY} If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry. 638 00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:40,458 What does that mean for the world'? 639 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,006 What does that mean for the Middle East'? 640 00:32:42,007 --> 00:32:44,721 Can you turn it down? I'm trying to watch the news. 641 00:32:44,722 --> 00:32:47,256 Stop calling it that. 642 00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:49,180 Hey, son. 643 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:56,098 Adam, what's the matter? 644 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,353 I met with a recruiter. 645 00:33:02,439 --> 00:33:06,285 A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry. 646 00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:10,701 You know once you sign up... 647 00:33:10,702 --> 00:33:13,324 there's no changing your mind, right'? 648 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:13,826 I know. 649 00:33:13,827 --> 00:33:16,044 What do you know? You're just a kid. 650 00:33:16,045 --> 00:33:17,870 Whose country was attacked. 651 00:33:17,871 --> 00:33:20,750 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right... 652 00:33:20,751 --> 00:33:22,666 but war is not a video game. 653 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,919 You have no idea what you're getting into. 654 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,720 I know exactly what I'm getting into. 655 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:33,677 Here. 656 00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:39,308 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 657 00:33:39,309 --> 00:33:40,601 Show me. 658 00:33:40,602 --> 00:33:42,603 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight... 659 00:33:42,604 --> 00:33:45,608 people you didn't even know existed a year ago. 660 00:33:45,609 --> 00:33:48,156 If you know what you're getting into... 661 00:33:48,157 --> 00:33:51,987 show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 662 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:55,699 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face... 663 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,204 and ask him to find Vietnam? 664 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:08,170 CHENEY} We now know that Saddam has resumed... 665 00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:10,261 his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 666 00:34:10,262 --> 00:34:13,848 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand... 667 00:34:13,849 --> 00:34:15,013 testimony from defectors. 668 00:34:15,014 --> 00:34:17,851 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein... 669 00:34:17,852 --> 00:34:20,349 will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon. 670 00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:24,687 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein... 671 00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:26,315 now has weapons of mass destruction. 672 00:34:26,316 --> 00:34:29,358 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq. 673 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,704 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay? 674 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:36,532 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote. 675 00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:39,577 No, no, no, you're such a child. 676 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,666 You're such a pussy. 677 00:34:40,667 --> 00:34:41,707 I'm not taking your money. 678 00:34:41,708 --> 00:34:43,205 You get all bent out of shape when you lose. 679 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:44,924 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose. 680 00:34:44,925 --> 00:34:46,837 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine. 681 00:34:46,838 --> 00:34:49,336 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 682 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:50,008 Son of a bitch. 683 00:34:50,009 --> 00:34:52,840 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go..." 684 00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:54,637 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay..." 685 00:34:54,638 --> 00:34:55,601 "for at least five years." 686 00:34:55,602 --> 00:34:58,143 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying... 687 00:34:58,144 --> 00:35:02,188 "�You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk." 688 00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,188 We gotta hit it harder than that. 689 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:06,562 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N... 690 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,065 that says, "There's widespread concern..." 691 00:35:08,066 --> 00:35:10,943 "that this will destabilize the whole Middle East." 692 00:35:10,944 --> 00:35:13,360 Let me see what you have. 693 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:14,361 Well, wait, I got... I got... 694 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:17,114 Just give it to me, give, give, give. 695 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:18,240 Okay. 696 00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:19,825 All right. 697 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:24,377 Let's see here... all right. 698 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,002 You guys are smart. 699 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:13,926 You know what's unfolding here. 700 00:36:13,927 --> 00:36:19,429 Our readers need to know what we've learned. 701 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:25,017 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq..." 702 00:36:25,018 --> 00:36:28,270 �for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 703 00:36:28,271 --> 00:36:32,115 "to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case... 704 00:36:32,116 --> 00:36:36,402 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic... 705 00:36:36,403 --> 00:36:39,200 "groups to break off into their own mini-states... 706 00:36:39,201 --> 00:36:42,326 "trapping American combat forces in the middle..." 707 00:36:42,327 --> 00:36:46,125 "of a bloody civil war for decades.�" 708 00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:50,290 Boss man's got balls. 709 00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:52,794 Yeah. 710 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:25,736 Shit. 711 00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:27,870 Were those for me? 712 00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:30,330 No. Yes. 713 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:35,043 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know... 714 00:37:35,044 --> 00:37:37,671 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts. 715 00:37:37,672 --> 00:37:40,090 It would've been all right. 716 00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:40,637 Okay. 717 00:37:40,638 --> 00:37:42,885 Well, I think they landed on my car... 718 00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:45,685 so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner... 719 00:37:45,686 --> 00:37:47,890 maybe we can do that? 720 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,394 Great. Great. 721 00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:55,898 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing... 722 00:37:55,899 --> 00:37:58,243 you did to prepare for tonight? 723 00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:01,779 All right. 724 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:04,245 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight... 725 00:38:04,246 --> 00:38:06,538 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq... 726 00:38:06,539 --> 00:38:10,329 and the history of the Muslim world. 727 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:11,497 Really? 728 00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:11,999 YES. 729 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,625 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad... 730 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:17,216 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir... 731 00:38:17,217 --> 00:38:19,379 and that caused a split into two factions... 732 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:20,380 the Sunnis and the Shiites. 733 00:38:20,381 --> 00:38:21,632 And they've been at war ever since. 734 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,727 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French... 735 00:38:23,728 --> 00:38:27,016 arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries... 736 00:38:27,017 --> 00:38:28,639 putting the Sunni majority in charge. 737 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,352 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni. 738 00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:38,273 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules... 739 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:39,617 the majority Shiite population... 740 00:38:39,618 --> 00:38:42,863 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 741 00:38:42,864 --> 00:38:46,116 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly... 742 00:38:46,117 --> 00:38:49,117 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war. 743 00:38:49,118 --> 00:38:50,664 Now, after reading your stories... 744 00:38:50,665 --> 00:38:54,257 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq. 745 00:38:54,258 --> 00:38:58,210 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist... 746 00:38:58,211 --> 00:38:59,962 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein. 747 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,422 That the nee-cons in the Bush Administration... 748 00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:03,423 are pushing for an invasion. 749 00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:07,970 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer. 750 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:10,099 Wow. 751 00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:18,063 Um... I guess it's my turn. 752 00:39:18,064 --> 00:39:18,986 Give it to me. 753 00:39:18,987 --> 00:39:21,984 Okay, I will admit that... 754 00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:24,987 This is a little embarrassing. 755 00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:30,659 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight. 756 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:31,830 Why is that embarrassing? 757 00:39:31,831 --> 00:39:34,251 Because a babysitter would expect me home... 758 00:39:34,252 --> 00:39:38,333 at the end of the evening and... 759 00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:40,335 Should we get the check? 760 00:39:40,336 --> 00:39:44,053 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not! 761 00:39:44,054 --> 00:39:47,177 Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death! 762 00:39:47,178 --> 00:39:51,930 We're talking about going to fucking war! 763 00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:54,684 Hello? 764 00:39:54,851 --> 00:39:57,811 I'm guessing that was a no comment? 765 00:39:57,812 --> 00:40:00,314 What are you grinning about? 766 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:01,362 What? I'm not grinning. 767 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,067 You're grinning. I'm not grinning. 768 00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:05,908 I'm not... What have you got over there? 769 00:40:05,909 --> 00:40:07,449 Relax! Don't worry about it. 770 00:40:07,450 --> 00:40:08,949 My God, she could do my taxes. 771 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:10,908 All right, relax. 772 00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:14,630 Strobel, Knight Ridder. Of course. 773 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:18,790 Okay. 774 00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:21,084 All right, I'll be right there. 775 00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:24,134 Let's go, this could be something. 776 00:40:28,301 --> 00:40:29,598 So, how does this work? 777 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:34,225 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking? 778 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:36,266 Why don't you just begin... 779 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:37,893 and we'll ask the questions when we have them. 780 00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:40,484 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right? 781 00:40:40,485 --> 00:40:42,733 Do you want it to be off the record? 782 00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:46,985 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am. 783 00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,111 It'll be background. 784 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:52,083 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official. 785 00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,672 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us. 786 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:07,553 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen... 787 00:41:07,554 --> 00:41:09,549 if we go to war is spot on. 788 00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:13,011 And we're a lot closer than you think. 789 00:41:13,012 --> 00:41:13,763 How close? 790 00:41:13,764 --> 00:41:17,108 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence... 791 00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:19,768 operation has been set up to bypass... 792 00:41:19,769 --> 00:41:22,437 the rest of the intelligence community. 793 00:41:22,438 --> 00:41:23,314 How do you know this? 794 00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:26,274 They meet in the building where I work. 795 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,276 And which building is that? 796 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:32,531 The one with the five sides. 797 00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:34,574 But you're not a part of that unit? 798 00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:35,371 No. 799 00:41:35,372 --> 00:41:36,870 So, how do you know about this? 800 00:41:36,871 --> 00:41:39,246 My desk is across the hall. 801 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:40,794 What office do you work for? 802 00:41:40,795 --> 00:41:46,253 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that. 803 00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:47,587 You're an analyst? 804 00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:51,341 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either. 805 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,889 I'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen... 806 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:56,435 and I don't like what these people are doing. 807 00:41:56,436 --> 00:42:00,100 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served... 808 00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:01,977 in the military are making decisions... 809 00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:05,522 based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions... 810 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,776 will impact our men and women in uniform. 811 00:42:07,777 --> 00:42:14,948 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent. 812 00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:20,287 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that? 813 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:23,749 They've designed a process that doesn't conform... 814 00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:27,753 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering. 815 00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:28,471 In what way? 816 00:42:28,472 --> 00:42:30,807 A decision is made, then the intelligence... 817 00:42:30,808 --> 00:42:34,718 is sought to support that decision. 818 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,686 How do you know this? 819 00:42:35,687 --> 00:42:38,972 They have no interest in Arabic speakers. 820 00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:41,308 Israelis come in without passes... 821 00:42:41,309 --> 00:42:44,481 without even being entered into a security log. 822 00:42:44,482 --> 00:42:47,699 And for years the government has been funding a group... 823 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:52,652 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress. 824 00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,117 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know. 825 00:42:54,118 --> 00:42:57,035 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq. 826 00:42:57,036 --> 00:42:59,502 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him. 827 00:42:59,503 --> 00:43:03,089 Do you know who set up this operation? 828 00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:08,428 Donald Rumsfeld. 829 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,509 Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq... 830 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:15,425 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists... 831 00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,973 with weapons of mass destruction? 832 00:43:16,974 --> 00:43:21,807 The reports that say that something hasn't happened... 833 00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:25,108 are always interesting to me because as we know... 834 00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:29,898 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. 835 00:43:29,899 --> 00:43:31,989 We also know there are known unknowns. 836 00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:35,784 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 837 00:43:35,785 --> 00:43:38,281 But there are also unknown unknowns. 838 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,829 The one's we don't know we don't know. 839 00:43:39,830 --> 00:43:42,704 We're working on a theory that the administration... 840 00:43:42,705 --> 00:43:44,249 has already decided to go to war... 841 00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:46,712 and is now focused on how to justify it. 842 00:43:46,713 --> 00:43:47,796 It's not a theory. 843 00:43:47,797 --> 00:43:50,132 We've also been told by a number of individuals that... 844 00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:53,382 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering. 845 00:43:53,383 --> 00:43:55,928 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering. 846 00:43:55,929 --> 00:43:58,053 It's more like intelligence cherry picking. 847 00:43:58,054 --> 00:43:59,845 And if they don't find any cherries... 848 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,098 they just grab a piece of shit... 849 00:44:01,099 --> 00:44:05,147 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple. 850 00:44:05,148 --> 00:44:07,811 You seem irritated. 851 00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:10,611 I'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist... 852 00:44:10,612 --> 00:44:13,525 to justify a war that might not be wise. 853 00:44:13,526 --> 00:44:18,697 And have you found any evidence of WMD? 854 00:44:18,698 --> 00:44:19,618 No, sir. 855 00:44:19,619 --> 00:44:21,366 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right? 856 00:44:21,367 --> 00:44:24,411 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have... 857 00:44:24,412 --> 00:44:26,835 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen. 858 00:44:26,836 --> 00:44:32,627 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote? 859 00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:33,218 Sure. 860 00:44:33,219 --> 00:44:35,431 Have you found anything to support the administratiofls... 861 00:44:35,432 --> 00:44:39,597 theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons? 862 00:44:39,598 --> 00:44:40,846 We've searched every cave... 863 00:44:40,847 --> 00:44:43,189 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq. 864 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:49,405 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way." 865 00:44:50,104 --> 00:44:52,323 Might have to clean that up a bit. 866 00:44:52,324 --> 00:44:54,983 Quite colorful, though. 867 00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:56,486 Honey, I think someone... 868 00:44:56,487 --> 00:44:58,236 is stealing our New York Times. 869 00:44:58,237 --> 00:44:59,654 I canceled it. 870 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,573 Why would you do that? 871 00:45:01,574 --> 00:45:02,866 It's propaganda. 872 00:45:02,867 --> 00:45:03,663 I need that for my work. 873 00:45:03,664 --> 00:45:06,499 It's packaging press releases from the White House... 874 00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:08,668 the State Department, and the Pentagon. 875 00:45:08,669 --> 00:45:11,668 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper. 876 00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:19,758 How was your day? 877 00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:21,974 Warren and I met with some gentleman... 878 00:45:21,975 --> 00:45:24,596 from the intelligence community who confirmed that... 879 00:45:24,597 --> 00:45:26,520 there's no real evidence to support... 880 00:45:26,521 --> 00:45:30,986 the administration's claim on WMD. 881 00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:34,606 What have I been telling you? 882 00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:40,614 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source. 883 00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:47,410 You know, this is what they do. They lie. 884 00:45:47,411 --> 00:45:51,541 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable. 885 00:45:53,501 --> 00:45:55,797 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do. 886 00:45:55,798 --> 00:45:59,343 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth. 887 00:45:59,344 --> 00:46:01,889 They don't even respond to your articles. 888 00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:04,761 If they want a war, they're gonna get one. 889 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:08,141 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment... 890 00:46:08,142 --> 00:46:10,563 is gonna do to stop them. 891 00:46:23,531 --> 00:46:26,284 Extra, extra, read all about it. 892 00:46:30,871 --> 00:46:34,838 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands... 893 00:46:34,839 --> 00:46:38,338 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American..." 894 00:46:38,339 --> 00:46:40,465 "officials believe were intended as components..." 895 00:46:40,466 --> 00:46:44,634 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium." 896 00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:46,636 Well, one thing's for sure. 897 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:48,054 What's that? 898 00:46:48,055 --> 00:46:51,184 We can't both be right. 899 00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:55,437 Who're you calling? 900 00:46:55,438 --> 00:46:56,314 Loose Nukes. 901 00:46:56,315 --> 00:46:58,112 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq... 902 00:46:58,113 --> 00:47:00,906 what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD? 903 00:47:00,907 --> 00:47:05,156 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son. 904 00:47:08,743 --> 00:47:10,837 Landay. 905 00:47:12,496 --> 00:47:15,290 It's Joe Galloway. Wow. 906 00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:17,589 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star. 907 00:47:17,590 --> 00:47:19,002 Hello. 908 00:47:19,003 --> 00:47:21,671 Hi, yeah, it's Landay. 909 00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:22,594 Hello, Jonathan. 910 00:47:22,595 --> 00:47:27,969 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, 911 00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,143 You're calling me to chat about the weather'? 912 00:47:30,144 --> 00:47:35,101 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD. 913 00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:37,070 It'll be deep, deep background. 914 00:47:37,071 --> 00:47:38,563 Goodbye, Jonathan. 915 00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,982 No wait, don't hang up. 916 00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:45,362 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable. 917 00:47:45,363 --> 00:47:48,823 Listen, we need you here. 918 00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:51,998 You've developed sources over the years that have access... 919 00:47:51,999 --> 00:47:55,288 that Landay and Strobel just can't get. 920 00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:56,834 I'll make it easy on you. 921 00:47:56,835 --> 00:47:57,879 I'll give you a column... 922 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,128 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else. 923 00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:04,881 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can... 924 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,852 and of course, there won't be any glory, but... 925 00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:10,892 Glory's for young men. 926 00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:14,349 Let me percolate on it. 927 00:48:14,350 --> 00:48:16,768 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq. 928 00:48:16,769 --> 00:48:19,562 You have said that it poses... 929 00:48:19,563 --> 00:48:22,065 a mortal threat to the United States. 930 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:24,567 How? Define "mortal threat." 931 00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:30,323 Well, this� take some time, but it's important for us... 932 00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:31,449 as I mentioned earlier... 933 00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:34,916 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to... 934 00:48:34,917 --> 00:48:36,538 I'd forgotten the world had changed. 935 00:48:36,539 --> 00:48:38,253 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that. 936 00:48:38,254 --> 00:48:41,966 What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe... 937 00:48:41,967 --> 00:48:44,676 would enhance his nuclear development program? 938 00:48:44,677 --> 00:48:46,718 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena... 939 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,217 you've got specifically aluminum tubes. 940 00:48:49,218 --> 00:48:51,186 There's a story in The New York Times this morning... 941 00:48:51,187 --> 00:48:54,182 this is and I want to attribute to The Times. 942 00:48:54,183 --> 00:48:55,895 I don't want to talk about, obviously... 943 00:48:55,896 --> 00:48:59,191 specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that... 944 00:48:59,228 --> 00:49:04,200 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been... 945 00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:07,444 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring... 946 00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:08,797 through this particular channel. .. 947 00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:11,574 The kinds of tubes that are necessary... 948 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:12,491 to build a centrifuge. 949 00:49:12,533 --> 00:49:15,628 And the centrifuge is required to take {-grade uranium... 950 00:49:15,661 --> 00:49:19,205 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium... 951 00:49:19,206 --> 00:49:22,003 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb. 952 00:49:22,004 --> 00:49:24,675 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times. 953 00:49:24,676 --> 00:49:28,173 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested... 954 00:49:28,174 --> 00:49:29,391 for revealing classified information. 955 00:49:29,392 --> 00:49:32,302 One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon... 956 00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:33,225 got that information. 957 00:49:33,226 --> 00:49:36,181 "Does it bother you, bug you."... 958 00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:39,311 that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year? 959 00:49:39,312 --> 00:49:46,357 Yd like to see him on television in handcuffs�... 960 00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:48,776 if I can put it into those terms. 961 00:49:48,777 --> 00:49:50,072 I think all of us would. 962 00:49:50,073 --> 00:49:53,368 But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that. 963 00:49:53,369 --> 00:49:56,117 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead. 964 00:49:56,118 --> 00:49:58,289 We haven't heard anything of him in many months. 965 00:49:58,290 --> 00:49:59,412 RUSSERH What do you think? 966 00:49:59,413 --> 00:50:00,833 I don't know, I really don't know. 967 00:50:00,834 --> 00:50:02,126 I can argue it round or flat. 968 00:50:02,127 --> 00:50:05,253 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth. 969 00:50:05,254 --> 00:50:08,176 I've got sources on both sides. 970 00:50:08,756 --> 00:50:11,966 But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 971 00:50:11,967 --> 00:50:12,967 in this circumstance. 972 00:50:12,968 --> 00:50:16,054 And I don't think it would be that tough a fight. 973 00:50:16,055 --> 00:50:17,807 That is, I don't think there 's any question... 974 00:50:17,808 --> 00:50:20,855 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective. 975 00:50:20,856 --> 00:50:23,394 Landay. 976 00:50:23,395 --> 00:50:25,480 Yeah? 977 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:28,781 We are right, aren't we? 978 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,993 Everybody, listen up. 979 00:50:36,325 --> 00:50:38,999 We're not NBC. 980 00:50:39,203 --> 00:50:41,287 We're not ABC. We're not CBS. 981 00:50:41,288 --> 00:50:45,418 We're not FOX. We're not CNN. 982 00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:47,669 We're not The New York Times. 983 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:50,674 We're not The Washington Post. 984 00:50:51,799 --> 00:50:54,518 We are Knight Ridder. 985 00:50:57,096 --> 00:51:03,434 We have readers who live in towns with military bases. 986 00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:06,938 Fort Banning, Fen Bragg, Fort Jackson... 987 00:51:06,939 --> 00:51:13,319 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country. 988 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,324 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers... 989 00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:22,626 for the Bush administration, let them. 990 00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:28,799 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war. 991 00:51:29,461 --> 00:51:35,218 We write for people whose kids get sent to war. 992 00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:39,229 So, when the government says something... 993 00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:43,021 you only have one question to ask. 994 00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:48,314 Is it true? 995 00:51:53,694 --> 00:51:56,447 I'm through percolating. 996 00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,871 Let's get to work. 997 00:51:59,872 --> 00:52:02,707 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows... 998 00:52:02,708 --> 00:52:04,667 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq. 999 00:52:04,668 --> 00:52:08,213 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning? 1000 00:52:08,214 --> 00:52:11,169 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others. 1001 00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:13,548 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 1002 00:52:13,549 --> 00:52:17,675 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 1003 00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:19,969 from unreliable sources and taking it... 1004 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:21,062 directly to the White House. 1005 00:52:21,063 --> 00:52:23,308 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence... 1006 00:52:23,309 --> 00:52:26,229 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation... 1007 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,729 between Osama bin Laden and A! Qaeda. 1008 00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:32,192 I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes. 1009 00:52:32,193 --> 00:52:35,026 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium. 1010 00:52:35,027 --> 00:52:35,869 What does that mean? 1011 00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:37,450 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb. 1012 00:52:37,451 --> 00:52:39,197 The President of the United States... 1013 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:41,244 said we're not going to permit nations to develop... 1014 00:52:41,245 --> 00:52:42,367 weapons of mass destruction... 1015 00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:44,494 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network... 1016 00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:46,371 of terrorism that could attack the United States. 1017 00:52:46,372 --> 00:52:49,082 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell. 1018 00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:50,958 Where'd you get this stuff? 1019 00:52:50,959 --> 00:52:51,710 Old friend. 1020 00:52:51,711 --> 00:52:53,802 REPORTER} We're starting to see a consensus from within... 1021 00:52:53,803 --> 00:52:55,888 the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein. 1022 00:52:55,889 --> 00:52:57,632 COMMENTATOR} The administration has pointed... 1023 00:52:57,633 --> 00:53:00,599 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence... 1024 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,014 and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta. 1025 00:53:02,015 --> 00:53:04,185 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations... 1026 00:53:04,186 --> 00:53:06,766 Security Council for a resolution... 1027 00:53:06,767 --> 00:53:07,809 to put pressure on Iraq. 1028 00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:09,733 President Bush will address the United Nations today... 1029 00:53:09,734 --> 00:53:13,026 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition... 1030 00:53:13,027 --> 00:53:14,112 to disarm Saddam Hussein. 1031 00:53:14,113 --> 00:53:16,948 The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize... 1032 00:53:16,949 --> 00:53:18,446 the use of force in Iraq. 1033 00:53:18,447 --> 00:53:21,160 The minute these guys get their hands on anything... 1034 00:53:21,161 --> 00:53:22,407 remotely resembling evidence... 1035 00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:24,122 they leak it to The New York Times. 1036 00:53:24,123 --> 00:53:26,086 Now, I understand the position you're in... 1037 00:53:26,087 --> 00:53:28,788 but please don't hang up on me. 1038 00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:29,881 Okay. 1039 00:53:29,882 --> 00:53:33,292 Okay, the vice president of the United States... 1040 00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:36,671 went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 1041 00:53:36,672 --> 00:53:40,051 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon. 1042 00:53:40,052 --> 00:53:42,885 Then he goes on national television... 1043 00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:44,387 and says the same thing. 1044 00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:47,598 Your question? 1045 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,059 Ask the question. 1046 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,064 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring... 1047 00:53:53,065 --> 00:53:56,033 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions... 1048 00:53:56,034 --> 00:54:00,361 or is he just getting bad intelligence? 1049 00:54:00,362 --> 00:54:04,788 The vice president is lying. 1050 00:54:06,118 --> 00:54:07,711 Thank you, thank you so much. 1051 00:54:07,712 --> 00:54:10,621 What? What, what, what? What'd she say? 1052 00:54:10,622 --> 00:54:11,789 He's lying. 1053 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:13,791 He's lying. Cheney is lying. 1054 00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:15,920 Cheney's lying! Cheney's lying! 1055 00:54:15,921 --> 00:54:19,130 He's lying! John! He's lying! 1056 00:54:19,131 --> 00:54:20,965 John! 1057 00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:22,305 Where the hell is he? 1058 00:54:22,306 --> 00:54:23,473 Here we go. Here we go. 1059 00:54:23,474 --> 00:54:25,845 He's lying-He's lYi"9- 1060 00:54:25,846 --> 00:54:27,638 Cheney's lYi"9- 1061 00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,474 Where did this come from? 1062 00:54:29,475 --> 00:54:31,142 Loose Nukes. 1063 00:54:31,143 --> 00:54:31,689 Okay. 1064 00:54:31,690 --> 00:54:34,187 Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside... 1065 00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:38,274 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion. 1066 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:40,109 I may have a 911V- 1067 00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,569 Anybody we know? 1068 00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:43,743 The Usual Suspect. 1069 00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,634 You didn't want to do this in a parking garage? 1070 00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:58,716 If there was one that sewed Pad Thai, I would. 1071 00:54:58,717 --> 00:55:00,797 How's civilian life? 1072 00:55:00,798 --> 00:55:03,674 My retirement lasted about four hours. 1073 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:04,694 You're with Knight Ridder? 1074 00:55:04,718 --> 00:55:08,063 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that? 1075 00:55:08,096 --> 00:55:08,767 I have my ways. 1076 00:55:08,768 --> 00:55:11,608 You been following what we're doing over there? 1077 00:55:11,609 --> 00:55:12,977 Yes, I have. 1078 00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:13,519 And? 1079 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,362 You two may be singlehandedly saving... 1080 00:55:15,363 --> 00:55:17,897 the Fourth Estate from extinction. 1081 00:55:17,898 --> 00:55:21,152 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running. 1082 00:55:21,153 --> 00:55:23,074 Should be all the confirmation you need... 1083 00:55:23,075 --> 00:55:25,289 that you're onto something. 1084 00:55:27,533 --> 00:55:29,617 What can I do for you? 1085 00:55:29,618 --> 00:55:32,370 We need some help with the higher ups. 1086 00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:33,167 How high? 1087 00:55:33,168 --> 00:55:34,413 High as you can get us. 1088 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:35,757 You've been around a long time, Joe. 1089 00:55:35,758 --> 00:55:38,292 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you. 1090 00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:40,091 I was married one time to a woman who thought... 1091 00:55:40,092 --> 00:55:42,181 New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts. 1092 00:55:42,182 --> 00:55:45,842 There's always something you don't see coming. 1093 00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:48,511 What do you want to know? 1094 00:55:48,512 --> 00:55:51,937 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know. 1095 00:55:51,938 --> 00:55:56,529 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai. 1096 00:56:00,482 --> 00:56:02,441 What kind of time frame are we looking at? 1097 00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:03,818 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote... 1098 00:56:03,819 --> 00:56:05,570 on whether or not to give the president... 1099 00:56:05,571 --> 00:56:07,321 the authorization to go to war. 1100 00:56:07,322 --> 00:56:08,198 Are the votes there? 1101 00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:09,323 The administration thinks so. 1102 00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:15,246 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd... 1103 00:56:15,247 --> 00:56:18,207 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 1104 00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:22,545 The resolution that authorized the president to use military... 1105 00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:23,889 force to repel armed attacks... 1106 00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:28,134 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 1107 00:56:28,135 --> 00:56:32,060 Ajoint resolution to authorize the use of United States... 1108 00:56:32,061 --> 00:56:35,892 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close. 1109 00:56:35,893 --> 00:56:38,352 The clerk will call the roll. 1110 00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:40,646 CLERK} Mr. Biden, aye. 1111 00:56:40,647 --> 00:56:41,898 Mrs. Clinton, aye. 1112 00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,493 It was this resolution that provided the basis... 1113 00:56:44,494 --> 00:56:48,988 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam. 1114 00:56:48,989 --> 00:56:51,282 Mr. Kerry, aye. 1115 00:56:51,283 --> 00:56:53,701 Mr. Lieberman, aye. 1116 00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:55,369 Mr. Lott, aye. 1117 00:56:55,370 --> 00:56:56,917 It was this resolution... 1118 00:56:56,918 --> 00:57:02,501 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans. 1119 00:57:02,502 --> 00:57:04,837 Mr. McCain, aye. 1120 00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:06,130 Mr. McConnell, aye. 1121 00:57:06,131 --> 00:57:11,636 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting... 1122 00:57:11,637 --> 00:57:13,685 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution... 1123 00:57:13,686 --> 00:57:17,183 we were basing our votes on bad information. 1124 00:57:17,184 --> 00:57:19,685 And history is repeating itself. 1125 00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,103 Mr. Santorum, aye. 1126 00:57:21,104 --> 00:57:24,774 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall... 1127 00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:26,948 and look at the Vietnam Memorial. 1128 00:57:26,949 --> 00:57:30,780 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall... 1129 00:57:30,781 --> 00:57:32,907 weeping for a loved one. 1130 00:57:32,908 --> 00:57:34,283 Mr. Sessions, aye. 1131 00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:37,662 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse. 1132 00:57:37,663 --> 00:57:39,330 Mr. Specter, aye. 1133 00:57:39,331 --> 00:57:41,800 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators..." 1134 00:57:41,801 --> 00:57:45,002 "who vote for it will live to regret it." 1135 00:57:45,003 --> 00:57:47,964 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source. 1136 00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:48,841 You know we got this. 1137 00:57:48,842 --> 00:57:51,175 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 1138 00:57:51,176 --> 00:57:52,598 of running a shadow intelligence unit... 1139 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:55,814 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance. 1140 00:57:55,815 --> 00:57:58,309 That's all I'm saying. 1141 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,860 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class. 1142 00:58:03,861 --> 00:58:04,902 You want to tell them? 1143 00:58:04,903 --> 00:58:09,402 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon. 1144 00:58:09,403 --> 00:58:09,904 BY Whom? 1145 00:58:09,905 --> 00:58:13,032 Rumsfeld, OI' Limp Dick sent a message saying... 1146 00:58:13,033 --> 00:58:14,907 "All your sources are retired generals." 1147 00:58:14,908 --> 00:58:16,706 And I said, "All due respect, sir..." 1148 00:58:16,707 --> 00:58:19,495 "80% of my sources are active military." 1149 00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:21,122 "Some of them are working in this building..." 1150 00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:23,296 "and some of them are actually working on your staff." 1151 00:58:23,297 --> 00:58:26,589 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room." 1152 00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:28,587 Did you actually have sources in the room'? 1153 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:33,264 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church. 1154 00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:36,971 How close are we to getting something we can run with 1155 00:58:36,972 --> 00:58:38,639 on the Office of Special Plans? 1156 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,516 Well, we already got... 1157 00:58:39,517 --> 00:58:42,356 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources. 1158 00:58:42,357 --> 00:58:44,773 What's wrong with the sources you have? 1159 00:58:44,774 --> 00:58:46,736 Well, we just want to be certain. 1160 00:58:46,737 --> 00:58:50,157 You know, you sit on a story like this, the darn bursts. 1161 00:58:50,158 --> 00:58:53,156 Let's just move on this, okay, boys? 1162 00:58:56,158 --> 00:58:57,535 When are you gonna be finished? 1163 00:58:57,536 --> 00:59:02,461 Just a few more minutes, baby. 1164 00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:08,044 I can't sleep with the computer light on. 1165 00:59:08,045 --> 00:59:11,424 Actually, I'm done. 1166 00:59:14,885 --> 00:59:17,636 So, what are you working on? 1167 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:20,516 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going... 1168 00:59:20,517 --> 00:59:26,943 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war. 1169 00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:33,235 What the fuck, Jonathan? 1170 00:59:33,236 --> 00:59:34,032 What? 1171 00:59:34,033 --> 00:59:37,249 Have you been talking about this on the phone? 1172 00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:40,326 Yeah, of course. 1173 00:59:40,327 --> 00:59:42,705 So, what? 1174 00:59:44,414 --> 00:59:47,917 They will hear you. Vlatka. 1175 00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,504 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies. 1176 00:59:51,505 --> 00:59:52,051 $0? 1177 00:59:52,052 --> 00:59:54,093 They're spy agencies, Jonathan. 1178 00:59:54,094 --> 00:59:57,220 They listen to your calls, they read your emails. 1179 00:59:57,221 --> 00:59:59,267 They probably bugged this house. 1180 00:59:59,268 --> 01:00:01,263 You're being paranoid. 1181 01:00:01,264 --> 01:00:02,186 You're being naive. 1182 01:00:02,187 --> 01:00:06,060 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America. 1183 01:00:06,061 --> 01:00:08,229 America has changed. 1184 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:09,277 War is big business for them. 1185 01:00:09,278 --> 01:00:11,866 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you. 1186 01:00:11,867 --> 01:00:17,113 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on. 1187 01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,949 Don't you get it? 1188 01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:23,327 You know what these people are capable of'? 1189 01:00:23,328 --> 01:00:26,205 You have a family! 1190 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:30,302 Vlatka. Vlatka! 1191 01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:38,592 Somebody's struggling. What's the matter'? 1192 01:00:38,593 --> 01:00:42,304 Vlatka kept me up all night. 1193 01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:42,931 All right! 1194 01:00:42,932 --> 01:00:47,685 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories. 1195 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:48,357 About what? 1196 01:00:48,358 --> 01:00:52,231 She thinks the government is monitoring us. 1197 01:00:52,232 --> 01:00:56,328 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1198 01:00:57,821 --> 01:00:59,915 Check your email. 1199 01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:13,210 John, you got to see this. 1200 01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:14,461 Hold on a second. 1201 01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:19,514 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again. 1202 01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:24,974 He hung up. What is it? 1203 01:01:31,646 --> 01:01:33,648 What do we do? 1204 01:01:51,082 --> 01:01:53,334 You're such a wuss. You're a wuss. 1205 01:01:53,335 --> 01:01:54,674 You're a much bigger wuss. 1206 01:01:54,675 --> 01:01:56,884 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child. 1207 01:01:56,885 --> 01:01:58,219 You're being a... Shut up! 1208 01:01:58,220 --> 01:02:01,219 REPORTER} Today's UN Security Council resolution 1209 01:02:01,220 --> 01:02:05,179 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking. 1210 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:09,433 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush... 1211 01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,358 made clear today, is of military confrontation. 1212 01:02:12,359 --> 01:02:16,273 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction... 1213 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:17,321 by Iraq will occur. 1214 01:02:17,322 --> 01:02:24,496 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how. 1215 01:02:35,710 --> 01:02:37,211 Son of a bitch. 1216 01:02:37,212 --> 01:02:37,838 They beat us. 1217 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,259 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up. 1218 01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:42,424 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop. 1219 01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:43,051 With what? 1220 01:02:43,052 --> 01:02:45,097 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence. 1221 01:02:45,098 --> 01:02:47,974 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies. 1222 01:02:47,975 --> 01:02:49,056 We can still run ours. 1223 01:02:49,057 --> 01:02:50,354 John, no one's gonna pay attention... 1224 01:02:50,355 --> 01:02:53,852 to a second story explaining all that. 1225 01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:54,729 We had it. 1226 01:02:54,730 --> 01:02:57,106 Goddamn it, Walcotfs gonna be pissed. 1227 01:02:57,107 --> 01:03:00,327 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet. 1228 01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:15,467 How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day? 1229 01:03:15,468 --> 01:03:19,338 He's giving us the silent treatment. 1230 01:03:21,631 --> 01:03:23,757 Shit, here he comes. 1231 01:03:23,758 --> 01:03:26,557 Jesus. 1232 01:03:31,182 --> 01:03:33,856 You had the story. 1233 01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:37,569 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat. 1234 01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:42,988 The only information Congress is getting... 1235 01:03:42,989 --> 01:03:45,076 is coming directly from the administration. 1236 01:03:45,077 --> 01:03:47,906 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France... 1237 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:50,126 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction... 1238 01:03:50,127 --> 01:03:51,620 they're going to be able to do so. 1239 01:03:51,621 --> 01:03:54,335 They're not going to rethink their positions... 1240 01:03:54,336 --> 01:03:56,459 unless they are provided with independent intel. 1241 01:03:56,460 --> 01:03:59,553 No one who's supported the authorization for war... 1242 01:03:59,554 --> 01:04:03,047 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president... 1243 01:04:03,048 --> 01:04:06,890 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war. 1244 01:04:06,891 --> 01:04:10,389 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi... 1245 01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:15,642 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99. 1246 01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:16,189 Yeah. 1247 01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:18,439 Well, if that offer actually had happened... 1248 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,815 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself. 1249 01:04:21,816 --> 01:04:23,489 What do you make of the statement made... 1250 01:04:23,490 --> 01:04:26,204 by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons... 1251 01:04:26,205 --> 01:04:29,239 of mass destruction and is not developing? 1252 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,663 They're lying- 1253 01:04:33,036 --> 01:04:34,203 Next. 1254 01:04:34,204 --> 01:04:35,292 Your daughter is lovely. 1255 01:04:35,293 --> 01:04:37,252 Well, I wish I could take credit. 1256 01:04:37,253 --> 01:04:38,712 She gets it from her mother. 1257 01:04:38,713 --> 01:04:39,878 Dad, can I get you anything? 1258 01:04:39,879 --> 01:04:41,844 No, thanks, sweetie. Mr. Strobel? 1259 01:04:41,845 --> 01:04:44,555 I'm fine. All right. 1260 01:04:47,092 --> 01:04:47,888 Just real casual. 1261 01:04:47,889 --> 01:04:50,594 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article. 1262 01:04:50,595 --> 01:04:51,221 0h. Yeah? 1263 01:04:51,222 --> 01:04:52,723 Seems like you don't trust politicians. 1264 01:04:52,724 --> 01:04:56,016 Well, that's a pretty solid rule ofjournalism. 1265 01:04:56,017 --> 01:04:58,232 Even when they're talking about war? 1266 01:04:58,233 --> 01:05:00,447 Especially when they're talking about war. 1267 01:05:00,448 --> 01:05:02,940 You really believe there's no WMD? 1268 01:05:02,941 --> 01:05:04,568 Our names are on the article. 1269 01:05:04,569 --> 01:05:06,777 They don't say that there's no WMD. 1270 01:05:06,778 --> 01:05:08,323 They just said that the administration... 1271 01:05:08,324 --> 01:05:09,446 hasn't offered any proof of WMD. 1272 01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:12,324 And you don't think they'll find any? 1273 01:05:12,325 --> 01:05:15,119 No, I don't. 1274 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,453 You don't know that. 1275 01:05:16,454 --> 01:05:17,250 No, we don't. 1276 01:05:17,251 --> 01:05:19,748 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths... 1277 01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:21,215 don't you think the administration... 1278 01:05:21,216 --> 01:05:23,177 has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale? 1279 01:05:23,178 --> 01:05:26,422 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud? 1280 01:05:26,423 --> 01:05:29,466 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again? 1281 01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,683 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing. 1282 01:05:32,684 --> 01:05:34,350 Well, then it must be true. 1283 01:05:34,351 --> 01:05:36,311 You kids are too young to remember... 1284 01:05:36,312 --> 01:05:38,600 how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 1285 01:05:38,601 --> 01:05:40,319 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day... 1286 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,483 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba. 1287 01:05:43,484 --> 01:05:47,202 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons... 1288 01:05:47,203 --> 01:05:48,861 90 miles off our coast. 1289 01:05:48,862 --> 01:05:50,159 The president had to demonstrate strength. 1290 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,575 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N... 1291 01:05:54,576 --> 01:05:57,830 to offer proof that the missiles existed. 1292 01:05:58,288 --> 01:05:59,210 It's not just Fox News. 1293 01:05:59,211 --> 01:06:02,791 It's the Washington Post. It's The New York Times. 1294 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:06,217 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet... 1295 01:06:06,218 --> 01:06:10,012 in the country, except yours. 1296 01:06:11,009 --> 01:06:11,635 Okay. 1297 01:06:11,636 --> 01:06:18,643 I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me. 1298 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:23,071 I'm going to grab a beer. 1299 01:06:25,023 --> 01:06:27,276 Jesus, Dad. 1300 01:06:37,785 --> 01:06:39,286 Are you okay, bro? 1301 01:06:39,287 --> 01:06:41,210 Yeah. 1302 01:06:42,457 --> 01:06:45,876 Are we good reporters? 1303 01:06:45,877 --> 01:06:46,548 What? 1304 01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:49,138 I mean, are we doing anything... 1305 01:06:49,172 --> 01:06:50,594 other than practicing good journalism? 1306 01:06:50,595 --> 01:06:52,934 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed... 1307 01:06:52,935 --> 01:06:55,802 Then, why the fuck are we the only ones... 1308 01:06:55,803 --> 01:06:58,898 running these fucking stories?! 1309 01:07:05,438 --> 01:07:07,907 He just wanted you to see all sides to him... 1310 01:07:07,941 --> 01:07:10,740 before you take it to the next level. 1311 01:07:14,697 --> 01:07:16,573 Almost three months ago, the United Nations... 1312 01:07:16,574 --> 01:07:19,201 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein... 1313 01:07:19,202 --> 01:07:21,995 his final chance to disarm. 1314 01:07:21,996 --> 01:07:23,541 Our intelligence officials estimate... 1315 01:07:23,542 --> 01:07:25,292 that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce... 1316 01:07:25,293 --> 01:07:28,257 What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections... 1317 01:07:28,258 --> 01:07:30,847 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results? 1318 01:07:30,848 --> 01:07:34,132 Well, when you're creating your own reality... 1319 01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:35,973 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts. 1320 01:07:35,974 --> 01:07:38,518 And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient... 1321 01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:41,306 for the mainstream media at this point? 1322 01:07:41,307 --> 01:07:43,392 When news is a profit center... 1323 01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,435 Access becomes currency. 1324 01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:46,983 Exactly. 1325 01:07:47,814 --> 01:07:49,565 I'm proud of you, John. 1326 01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:50,362 Why? 1327 01:07:50,363 --> 01:07:53,902 For not wavering. 1328 01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:55,362 It's got to be tough. 1329 01:07:55,363 --> 01:07:56,330 It's not that tough. 1330 01:07:56,331 --> 01:08:01,702 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are. 1331 01:08:01,703 --> 01:08:05,003 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush..." 1332 01:08:05,004 --> 01:08:07,457 "About the Post-Hussein Era." 1333 01:08:07,458 --> 01:08:08,254 By Judith Miller. 1334 01:08:08,255 --> 01:08:10,923 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller... 1335 01:08:10,924 --> 01:08:13,422 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD. 1336 01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:16,258 We gotta dig into the declassified 1337 01:08:16,259 --> 01:08:17,556 national intelligence estimate... 1338 01:08:17,557 --> 01:08:20,846 and find out if there are any gems in there. 1339 01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:21,767 Yeah, I'd love to see... 1340 01:08:21,768 --> 01:08:23,640 what they redacted from the classified version. 1341 01:08:23,641 --> 01:08:25,892 What's going on with Chalabi? 1342 01:08:25,893 --> 01:08:26,689 We're on it. 1343 01:08:26,690 --> 01:08:28,400 I'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss. 1344 01:08:28,401 --> 01:08:29,521 I got a feeling. Yeah... 1345 01:08:29,522 --> 01:08:34,067 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war. 1346 01:08:34,068 --> 01:08:36,366 Yeah. 1347 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,665 Goddamn it! 1348 01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:53,596 Fuck! 1349 01:08:57,717 --> 01:08:59,968 Angela, did the mayor set a date... 1350 01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:00,845 for the fundraiser yet? 1351 01:09:00,846 --> 01:09:03,639 Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong. 1352 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,433 Your head isn't literally up your ass. 1353 01:09:06,434 --> 01:09:09,394 It's always a pleasure to see you, John... 1354 01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:11,610 but would you please wait outside? 1355 01:09:11,611 --> 01:09:14,196 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work... 1356 01:09:14,197 --> 01:09:16,820 but the fact that you're running these bullshit... 1357 01:09:16,821 --> 01:09:20,405 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable. 1358 01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:21,703 Not in here, John. Okay, please? 1359 01:09:21,704 --> 01:09:25,827 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me. 1360 01:09:25,828 --> 01:09:26,953 Jesus. 1361 01:09:26,954 --> 01:09:29,873 Look, as painful as this might seem... 1362 01:09:29,874 --> 01:09:30,966 I don't answer to you, John. 1363 01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:33,505 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job. 1364 01:09:33,506 --> 01:09:35,754 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers. 1365 01:09:35,755 --> 01:09:37,098 They're citizens who are patriots... 1366 01:09:37,099 --> 01:09:39,468 they're citizens who support our troops. 1367 01:09:39,469 --> 01:09:41,265 And how do you do that, Arthur? 1368 01:09:41,266 --> 01:09:43,970 By going down on The New York Times? 1369 01:09:43,971 --> 01:09:46,014 I don't have time for this. 1370 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:47,557 No, you don't have time. 1371 01:09:47,558 --> 01:09:48,558 You don't have time. 1372 01:09:48,559 --> 01:09:50,060 You know, one day, The New York Times... 1373 01:09:50,061 --> 01:09:51,563 is going to apologize to its readers. 1374 01:09:51,564 --> 01:09:55,567 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology? 1375 01:09:55,568 --> 01:09:58,527 Or are you just going to run theirs? 1376 01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:01,202 Have a nice day, John. 1377 01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:04,621 It is beginning to look more and more as though... 1378 01:10:04,622 --> 01:10:06,413 war with Iraq is inevitable. 1379 01:10:06,414 --> 01:10:09,583 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech... 1380 01:10:09,584 --> 01:10:11,751 by Secretary of State Colin Powell... 1381 01:10:11,752 --> 01:10:13,625 that could move the world closer to war. 1382 01:10:13,626 --> 01:10:16,220 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait... 1383 01:10:16,221 --> 01:10:20,340 for orders to attack, Ryan Chiilcoat reports... 1384 01:10:20,341 --> 01:10:22,801 That's so frustrating. 1385 01:10:22,802 --> 01:10:26,102 I don't know that I could do what you do. 1386 01:10:27,181 --> 01:10:28,398 You know, I once got it in my head... 1387 01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:30,267 that I should hike the Appalachian Trail. 1388 01:10:30,268 --> 01:10:32,487 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself. 1389 01:10:32,488 --> 01:10:37,575 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles. 1390 01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:40,652 I realized... 1391 01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:42,863 That it would take a lifetime? 1392 01:10:42,864 --> 01:10:44,992 Yeah. 1393 01:10:47,618 --> 01:10:50,121 Or we could walk it together. 1394 01:10:51,247 --> 01:10:55,000 I'm gonna hold you to that. 1395 01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,548 REPORTER} Worldwide resistance is mounting... 1396 01:10:56,549 --> 01:11:00,338 against America's military intervention into Iraq. 1397 01:11:00,339 --> 01:11:03,218 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East... 1398 01:11:03,219 --> 01:11:06,517 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition... 1399 01:11:06,518 --> 01:11:11,109 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq. 1400 01:11:17,565 --> 01:11:19,693 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do? 1401 01:11:19,694 --> 01:11:21,114 Hello. I'm Entifadh Qanbar. 1402 01:11:21,115 --> 01:11:23,738 Hi. Now, please, follow me. 1403 01:11:24,614 --> 01:11:25,365 Who's this dude? 1404 01:11:25,366 --> 01:11:30,202 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding. 1405 01:11:30,203 --> 01:11:31,876 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay... 1406 01:11:31,877 --> 01:11:36,208 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News. 1407 01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:37,751 Gentlemen, welcome. 1408 01:11:37,752 --> 01:11:42,214 Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us. 1409 01:11:42,215 --> 01:11:44,716 I've been very busy. 1410 01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:46,431 Talking to our competitors. 1411 01:11:46,432 --> 01:11:49,017 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me. 1412 01:11:49,018 --> 01:11:51,311 After all, I have nothing to hide... 1413 01:11:51,312 --> 01:11:55,268 which is more than I can say for Saddam. 1414 01:11:55,269 --> 01:11:57,187 Okay, well, since you brought him up... 1415 01:11:57,188 --> 01:11:58,403 I thought we might talk about what... 1416 01:11:58,404 --> 01:12:00,741 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them. 1417 01:12:00,742 --> 01:12:06,571 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know. 1418 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,573 Right, and you know that how? 1419 01:12:08,574 --> 01:12:11,621 I know everything that's happening in my country. 1420 01:12:11,622 --> 01:12:15,249 Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade? 1421 01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:19,835 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi. 1422 01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:22,305 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make... 1423 01:12:22,306 --> 01:12:25,674 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile... 1424 01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:29,302 have access to such valuable information'? 1425 01:12:29,303 --> 01:12:31,099 I maintain close relationships... 1426 01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,350 with dissident intelligence sources. 1427 01:12:33,351 --> 01:12:35,725 Is there a way we can verify that? 1428 01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,443 No. 1429 01:12:36,444 --> 01:12:38,728 See, that's kind of a problem for us... 1430 01:12:38,729 --> 01:12:39,855 because we can't write a story... 1431 01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:46,410 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq. 1432 01:12:46,445 --> 01:12:47,662 With you as its leader? 1433 01:12:47,697 --> 01:12:51,157 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes. 1434 01:12:51,158 --> 01:12:55,537 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country... 1435 01:12:55,538 --> 01:12:57,882 the way Mandela did in South Africa. 1436 01:12:57,915 --> 01:13:02,762 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country. 1437 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:05,297 He wasn't fighting terrorists. 1438 01:13:05,298 --> 01:13:08,466 With all due respect, that's where the red flags... 1439 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:09,309 start to go up for us. 1440 01:13:09,343 --> 01:13:12,929 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative... 1441 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:13,772 for my own pursuits? 1442 01:13:13,773 --> 01:13:17,064 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative? 1443 01:13:17,065 --> 01:13:19,269 I don't lie! 1444 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:22,439 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical... 1445 01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:23,817 and biological weapons labs. 1446 01:13:23,818 --> 01:13:27,944 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists. 1447 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:31,907 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 1448 01:13:31,908 --> 01:13:33,660 defectors and hear what they say. 1449 01:13:33,661 --> 01:13:35,627 They will all tell you the same thing. 1450 01:13:35,628 --> 01:13:41,923 Don't they all get their information from you? 1451 01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:47,056 If you were wondering why it took so long for me... 1452 01:13:47,057 --> 01:13:52,552 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude. 1453 01:13:52,553 --> 01:13:56,640 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said. 1454 01:13:56,641 --> 01:13:59,481 Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders? 1455 01:13:59,482 --> 01:14:01,229 All right, I think we should go. 1456 01:14:01,230 --> 01:14:04,105 Thank you for your time. 1457 01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:08,568 Now I see why no one reads anything you write. 1458 01:14:08,569 --> 01:14:12,164 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator... 1459 01:14:12,165 --> 01:14:16,910 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally... 1460 01:14:16,911 --> 01:14:21,581 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 1461 01:14:21,582 --> 01:14:25,669 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone? 1462 01:14:25,670 --> 01:14:26,670 All right, come on, Landay. 1463 01:14:26,671 --> 01:14:29,136 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off... 1464 01:14:29,137 --> 01:14:30,256 but he doesn't say how. 1465 01:14:30,257 --> 01:14:32,680 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein... 1466 01:14:32,681 --> 01:14:35,804 not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war'? 1467 01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:37,148 Tell us something that makes sense... 1468 01:14:37,149 --> 01:14:43,645 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today. 1469 01:14:43,646 --> 01:14:44,363 You can't! 1470 01:14:44,364 --> 01:14:46,733 Because you have no idea what happens next. 1471 01:14:46,734 --> 01:14:48,608 And neither does anyone else. John. John! 1472 01:14:48,609 --> 01:14:52,153 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper... 1473 01:14:52,154 --> 01:14:53,121 than to be used by you... 1474 01:14:53,122 --> 01:14:57,075 to sell the American public your bullshit. 1475 01:14:57,076 --> 01:14:58,453 All right. 1476 01:15:01,706 --> 01:15:05,083 By the way, ifs Knight Ridden. 1477 01:15:05,084 --> 01:15:06,835 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case... 1478 01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:10,797 against Iraq in a nationally televised address... 1479 01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:12,632 to the UN Security Council. 1480 01:15:12,633 --> 01:15:14,634 Looks like they're bringing in the closer. 1481 01:15:14,635 --> 01:15:16,725 REPORTER} Mr. Secretary, are you confident... 1482 01:15:16,726 --> 01:15:18,471 you will make your case, sir? 1483 01:15:18,472 --> 01:15:19,268 You'll see. 1484 01:15:19,269 --> 01:15:21,359 What the hell game have we've been playing? 1485 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,695 All we did is piss into the wind. 1486 01:15:26,272 --> 01:15:28,606 We did our jobs. 1487 01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:31,985 I should never have become a reporter. 1488 01:15:31,986 --> 01:15:36,162 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein. 1489 01:15:37,283 --> 01:15:39,911 They took down a president whose biggest crime... 1490 01:15:39,912 --> 01:15:43,580 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks. 1491 01:15:43,581 --> 01:15:46,209 This presidenfs about to do the worst thing any president... 1492 01:15:46,210 --> 01:15:49,963 could do and he'll probably get re-elected. 1493 01:15:51,172 --> 01:15:54,051 To the democratic experiment. 1494 01:15:56,469 --> 01:15:57,933 Thank you, Mr. President. 1495 01:15:57,934 --> 01:16:00,305 My colleagues, every statement I make today... 1496 01:16:00,306 --> 01:16:04,642 is backed up by sources, solid sources. 1497 01:16:04,643 --> 01:16:08,193 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity... 1498 01:16:08,194 --> 01:16:12,067 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction... 1499 01:16:12,068 --> 01:16:12,864 pose to the world. 1500 01:16:12,865 --> 01:16:16,488 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up. 1501 01:16:16,489 --> 01:16:19,741 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high... 1502 01:16:19,742 --> 01:16:20,955 that supported the invasion. 1503 01:16:20,956 --> 01:16:22,669 Saddam Hussein is determined... 1504 01:16:22,670 --> 01:16:25,205 to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1505 01:16:25,206 --> 01:16:26,206 Cheney sent Scooter Libby... 1506 01:16:26,207 --> 01:16:28,879 to push three main arguments in those files. 1507 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,960 One: Saddam's human rights abuses... 1508 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:31,961 which everybody knew about. 1509 01:16:31,962 --> 01:16:33,927 Two: His links to al Qaeda, which Powell... 1510 01:16:33,928 --> 01:16:35,721 of course, threw right in the trash. 1511 01:16:35,722 --> 01:16:40,220 And the third focused on Iraq's WMD. 1512 01:16:40,221 --> 01:16:42,474 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons... 1513 01:16:42,475 --> 01:16:44,976 of mass destruction for a few more months or years... 1514 01:16:44,977 --> 01:16:49,062 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world. 1515 01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:52,943 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 1516 01:16:52,944 --> 01:16:56,986 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 1517 01:16:56,987 --> 01:16:58,696 He threw out 80% of them. 1518 01:16:58,697 --> 01:16:59,911 At the end of the four days... 1519 01:16:59,912 --> 01:17:02,376 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said... 1520 01:17:02,377 --> 01:17:06,871 "George, can we stand by every word of this?" 1521 01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:13,962 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you." 1522 01:17:13,963 --> 01:17:15,804 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George." 1523 01:17:15,805 --> 01:17:18,017 "Fm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be..." 1524 01:17:18,018 --> 01:17:21,103 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world." 1525 01:17:21,104 --> 01:17:25,765 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 1526 01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:27,564 to the citizens of the countries... 1527 01:17:27,565 --> 01:17:31,020 that are represented by this body. 1528 01:17:31,021 --> 01:17:33,982 Colin took one for the team. 1529 01:17:33,983 --> 01:17:35,451 Always the good soldier. 1530 01:17:35,452 --> 01:17:37,777 Has the Iraqi regime fully... 1531 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:40,697 and unconditionally disarmed 7. 1532 01:17:40,698 --> 01:17:44,043 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined... 1533 01:17:44,044 --> 01:17:47,412 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council. 1534 01:17:47,413 --> 01:17:49,747 Total disarmament. 1535 01:17:49,748 --> 01:17:51,921 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced�. 1536 01:17:51,922 --> 01:17:55,672 A new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet... 1537 01:17:55,673 --> 01:18:02,510 the requirements of Resolution 1441. 1538 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:06,264 This is a fact, it cannot be denied. 1539 01:18:06,265 --> 01:18:08,186 REPORTER} And what harm would it do to give... 1540 01:18:08,187 --> 01:18:09,397 Saddam a final ultimatum? 1541 01:18:09,398 --> 01:18:12,233 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force? 1542 01:18:12,234 --> 01:18:15,028 September the 11th changed the strategic thinking... 1543 01:18:15,029 --> 01:18:17,692 at least as far as I was concerned... 1544 01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:19,777 for how to protect our country. 1545 01:18:19,778 --> 01:18:24,866 My job is to protect the American people. 1546 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:28,453 Used to be that we could think that you could contain... 1547 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:29,579 a person like Saddam Hussein... 1548 01:18:29,580 --> 01:18:33,460 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror. 1549 01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:37,513 September the 11th should say to the American people... 1550 01:18:37,514 --> 01:18:38,963 Hello? 1551 01:18:38,964 --> 01:18:41,299 You need to pack your bags. 1552 01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:43,593 Right. 1553 01:18:43,594 --> 01:18:46,518 In the hands of a terrorist organization... 1554 01:18:46,519 --> 01:18:49,515 could be deployed here at home. 1555 01:18:49,516 --> 01:18:53,978 King, John King. This is a scripted... 1556 01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:55,104 Thank you, Mr. President. 1557 01:18:55,105 --> 01:18:57,820 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they... 1558 01:18:57,821 --> 01:18:59,487 They think this is somehow personal? 1559 01:18:59,488 --> 01:19:01,487 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight... 1560 01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:03,780 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein... 1561 01:19:03,781 --> 01:19:05,823 is making the world a more dangerous place. 1562 01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:08,168 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility... 1563 01:19:08,169 --> 01:19:10,206 of military conflict, could you share with us... 1564 01:19:10,207 --> 01:19:12,582 any of the scenarios your advisers have shared... 1565 01:19:12,623 --> 01:19:15,917 with you about worst-case scenarios? 1566 01:19:15,918 --> 01:19:23,918 You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there. 1567 01:19:24,385 --> 01:19:25,843 Yeah? I will. 1568 01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:30,640 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. 1569 01:19:30,641 --> 01:19:32,517 He has weapons of mass destruction� . 1570 01:19:32,518 --> 01:19:36,062 And he has used weapons of mass destruction. 1571 01:19:36,063 --> 01:19:37,315 He has trained and financed... 1572 01:19:37,316 --> 01:19:39,487 a! Qaeda-type organizations before. 1573 01:19:39,488 --> 01:19:43,653 I take the threat seriously, and HI deal with the threat. 1574 01:19:43,654 --> 01:19:46,823 I hope it can be done peacefully. 1575 01:19:46,824 --> 01:19:49,409 They hate what we stand for. 1576 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:52,630 We love freedom, and we're not changing. 1577 01:19:52,871 --> 01:19:54,747 REPORTER} Mr. President, millions of Americans can... 1578 01:19:54,748 --> 01:19:58,093 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country. 1579 01:19:58,094 --> 01:20:01,045 On a mission of regime change in Vietnam. 1580 01:20:01,046 --> 01:20:02,466 50,000 Americans died. 1581 01:20:02,467 --> 01:20:05,930 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed... 1582 01:20:05,931 --> 01:20:08,344 or threatened a single American in 30 years... 1583 01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:09,312 since the war ended. 1584 01:20:09,313 --> 01:20:11,977 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters... 1585 01:20:11,978 --> 01:20:15,569 of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that... 1586 01:20:15,570 --> 01:20:19,856 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq? 1587 01:20:19,857 --> 01:20:22,150 BUSH} That's a great question. 1588 01:20:22,151 --> 01:20:25,987 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation. 1589 01:20:25,988 --> 01:20:26,705 I know that. 1590 01:20:26,706 --> 01:20:29,788 It's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got... 1591 01:20:29,789 --> 01:20:31,659 while not serving in the National Guard. 1592 01:20:31,660 --> 01:20:35,330 But ifs very clear what we intend to do. 1593 01:20:35,331 --> 01:20:38,505 And our mission won't change. 1594 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:45,006 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks... 1595 01:20:45,007 --> 01:20:48,051 I doubt six months. 1596 01:20:48,052 --> 01:20:49,802 There's a lot of money to pay for this... 1597 01:20:49,803 --> 01:20:51,429 that doesn't have to be U. S. Taxpayer money. 1598 01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:54,309 We're dealing with a country that can really finance... 1599 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:56,980 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. 1600 01:20:56,981 --> 01:20:59,479 There will always be some uncertainty... 1601 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,945 about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons... 1602 01:21:01,946 --> 01:21:05,238 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1603 01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:06,908 Do you think the America people... 1604 01:21:06,909 --> 01:21:10,782 are prepared for a Song, costly, and bloody battle... 1605 01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:12,660 with significant American casualties? 1606 01:21:12,661 --> 01:21:14,911 I don't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim... 1607 01:21:14,912 --> 01:21:17,131 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. 1608 01:21:17,132 --> 01:21:20,126 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President... 1609 01:21:20,127 --> 01:21:23,047 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech... 1610 01:21:23,048 --> 01:21:24,763 on a carrier in the Pacific. 1611 01:21:24,764 --> 01:21:29,342 My fellow Americans, major combat operations... 1612 01:21:29,343 --> 01:21:30,760 in Iraq have ended. 1613 01:21:30,761 --> 01:21:34,263 In the battle of Iraq, the United States... 1614 01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:37,939 and our allies have prevailed. 1615 01:22:19,309 --> 01:22:22,028 I want to go down there. 1616 01:22:39,037 --> 01:22:42,917 They were the first to die. 1617 01:22:47,004 --> 01:22:49,757 Were you there? 1618 01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:54,432 Thank you. 1619 01:22:59,433 --> 01:23:01,652 Thank you, son. 1620 01:24:05,999 --> 01:24:07,546 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore... 1621 01:24:07,547 --> 01:24:11,172 to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact? 1622 01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:14,465 It was very lonely and what made it actually one... 1623 01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:15,466 of the ironies is... 1624 01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:16,968 that every time we would write something... 1625 01:24:16,969 --> 01:24:20,141 the White House would say nothing, because we realized... 1626 01:24:20,142 --> 01:24:22,478 after a white that that would have been the best... 1627 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,810 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for. 1628 01:24:25,811 --> 01:24:27,186 There's a problem with journalism... 1629 01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:28,357 in Washington, which is access. 1630 01:24:28,358 --> 01:24:30,403 And The New York Times and others had access to the top... 1631 01:24:30,404 --> 01:24:31,988 officials who were spinning this line. 1632 01:24:31,989 --> 01:24:33,484 "We talked to those people, as we"... 1633 01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:35,078 but most of our reporting, Christiane... 1634 01:24:35,079 --> 01:24:37,241 was with intelligence, military. .. 1635 01:24:37,242 --> 01:24:38,364 "And diplomatic mid-level". 1636 01:24:38,365 --> 01:24:39,574 Lower level? Lower level. 1637 01:24:39,575 --> 01:24:41,669 The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after. 1638 01:24:41,670 --> 01:24:43,875 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man... 1639 01:24:43,876 --> 01:24:46,043 who was our boss at the time, John Waicott. 1640 01:24:46,044 --> 01:24:48,249 Higher levels of civilization... 1641 01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:50,344 must depend even more heavily... 1642 01:24:50,377 --> 01:24:53,802 on a conscientious respect forNthe importance of honesty... 1643 01:24:53,803 --> 01:24:57,847 and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 1644 01:24:57,884 --> 01:25:03,347 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are. 1645 01:25:03,348 --> 01:25:08,269 We need to find some way to cover the world so that... 1646 01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:10,980 we know what's happening out there... 1647 01:25:10,981 --> 01:25:12,779 that we know the truth about it... 1648 01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:17,695 so we can avoid mistakes... 1649 01:25:17,696 --> 01:25:20,281 mistakes like Iraq. 1650 01:25:20,282 --> 01:25:22,074 The intelligence was what it was. 1651 01:25:22,075 --> 01:25:23,873 You know, people like me couldn't make it up. 1652 01:25:23,874 --> 01:25:26,165 The intelligence wasn't what it was... 1653 01:25:26,166 --> 01:25:27,585 and not everybody got it wrong. 1654 01:25:27,586 --> 01:25:31,802 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridden 132548

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