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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,901 --> 00:00:24,320 Good afternoon, my beautiful kings and queens. 2 00:00:24,487 --> 00:00:26,698 It is Wednesday, April 8, 2015. 3 00:00:26,865 --> 00:00:30,285 Hopefully, you are out there or were out there this morning 4 00:00:30,452 --> 00:00:32,287 doing something productive, successful, 5 00:00:32,913 --> 00:00:35,916 something that is going to help establish your kingdom and queendom. 6 00:00:36,083 --> 00:00:42,339 Today, "Sandy Speaks" is going to focus directly on my white people. 7 00:00:42,506 --> 00:00:45,551 White people. Yes. 8 00:00:45,718 --> 00:00:48,346 Black people know that all lives matter. 9 00:00:48,513 --> 00:00:50,848 But what I need you guys to understand is that 10 00:00:51,015 --> 00:00:54,477 being a black person in America is very, very hard. 11 00:00:54,644 --> 00:00:57,355 I am not a racist. I grew up in Villa Park, Illinois, 12 00:00:57,522 --> 00:01:01,818 was the only black girl on an all-white cheerleading squad, so I had to learn 13 00:01:01,985 --> 00:01:04,822 how to deal with white people. 14 00:01:04,988 --> 00:01:08,617 But I want the white folks to really understand out there, 15 00:01:08,784 --> 00:01:11,329 not all of us, but some of us, are really doing as much as we can. 16 00:01:11,495 --> 00:01:14,916 And we can't help but get pissed off when we see situations 17 00:01:15,083 --> 00:01:17,585 where it's clear the black life didn't matter. 18 00:01:17,752 --> 00:01:21,631 Because in the news that we've seen as of late, 19 00:01:21,798 --> 00:01:28,513 you could stand there, surrender to the cops, and still be killed. 20 00:01:37,606 --> 00:01:41,444 On Friday, July 10, Ms. Bland was stopped 21 00:01:41,611 --> 00:01:44,530 by the Texas Department of Public Safety 22 00:01:44,697 --> 00:01:47,450 for a traffic infraction. 23 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:52,622 The state trooper arrested Bland for assault of a public servant, 24 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:57,586 then transported Ms. Bland to the Waller County jail. 25 00:02:00,464 --> 00:02:04,927 On Monday, July 13, at 8:58 a.m. 26 00:02:05,094 --> 00:02:07,054 jailers went to cell 95 27 00:02:07,430 --> 00:02:13,978 and observed Ms. Bland hanging from her privacy partition in her cell. 28 00:02:15,355 --> 00:02:18,024 The Harris County of Texas medical examiner's office 29 00:02:18,191 --> 00:02:22,362 listed the manner of death as a suicide. 30 00:02:22,529 --> 00:02:26,450 However, there may be some questions that cannot be answered, 31 00:02:26,617 --> 00:02:31,122 since this investigation is yet to be completed. 32 00:02:35,126 --> 00:02:38,087 Ooh, Lord have mercy. 33 00:02:39,214 --> 00:02:40,590 Okay. 34 00:02:42,425 --> 00:02:44,010 Ooh! 35 00:02:45,470 --> 00:02:48,599 Oh, here we go. Here we go. 36 00:02:50,726 --> 00:02:54,563 Aw, man. It looks better in person. 37 00:02:54,980 --> 00:02:56,690 Wow. 38 00:02:58,943 --> 00:03:04,115 Hey, girl! I just can't get over, like, how surreal it looks, you know? 39 00:03:08,953 --> 00:03:13,291 Okay, sister. Losing you has been the hardest thing that... 40 00:03:15,043 --> 00:03:16,587 I thought I would ever have to go through, 41 00:03:16,753 --> 00:03:21,884 but I feel like it's made me a stronger person. 42 00:03:22,051 --> 00:03:26,931 So this is our letter that we wrote to the attorney general. 43 00:03:27,098 --> 00:03:33,521 And it says, "My name is Sharon Cooper, and I am Sandra Bland's sister. 44 00:03:33,688 --> 00:03:36,816 "My sister Sandra, affectionately known as Sandy, 45 00:03:36,983 --> 00:03:39,861 "was a vibrant, outspoken, and intelligent 46 00:03:40,028 --> 00:03:43,073 28-year-old who was absolutely full of life. 47 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,784 "Since Sandra's death, we have been in mourning, 48 00:03:45,951 --> 00:03:49,038 "but candidly, our ability to mourn has been paralyzed 49 00:03:49,205 --> 00:03:54,126 "by the unusual and unsettling circumstances surrounding her death. 50 00:03:54,293 --> 00:03:57,130 That is why I am writing to you." 51 00:03:57,588 --> 00:03:59,757 You've got a lot of people that's 52 00:03:59,924 --> 00:04:02,010 down here standing with you and us. 53 00:04:02,177 --> 00:04:04,387 People you know, people you don't know. 54 00:04:04,554 --> 00:04:06,973 A lot of people who you don't know. 55 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:09,768 I don't think Officer Encinia knew whose you were 56 00:04:09,935 --> 00:04:13,355 and who you belong to when he pulled you over. 57 00:04:13,522 --> 00:04:19,195 Well, each day, you let him know what a mistake he made. 58 00:04:19,362 --> 00:04:22,156 We're going to get to the bottom of it. 59 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:25,201 No matter how long it takes. 60 00:04:26,119 --> 00:04:30,290 And we gonna change history, just like you wanted to. 61 00:04:30,957 --> 00:04:33,919 An innocent daughter's life was snatched, 62 00:04:34,086 --> 00:04:36,463 in a building right behind us. 63 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:39,550 This is no longer just a Ferguson issue. 64 00:04:39,717 --> 00:04:41,802 It is not just a Baltimore issue. 65 00:04:43,304 --> 00:04:45,723 This is an American issue. 66 00:04:45,890 --> 00:04:49,143 And we will not go away until it is answered. 67 00:04:51,938 --> 00:04:53,857 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 68 00:04:54,023 --> 00:04:55,567 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 69 00:04:55,734 --> 00:04:57,193 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 70 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,781 Won't you say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 71 00:05:00,947 --> 00:05:03,408 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 72 00:05:17,548 --> 00:05:22,637 The trip Sandy and I took over the Fourth of July weekend. 73 00:05:23,805 --> 00:05:26,933 She made all of this music for Mom... 74 00:05:29,144 --> 00:05:33,524 to sit in the car, and dance, laugh, 75 00:05:33,691 --> 00:05:35,484 sing... 76 00:05:36,026 --> 00:05:38,112 and when she was driving, 77 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,784 Sandy kept talking about going back to Texas. 78 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:47,914 She said, "Now I know what I'm supposed to be doing." 79 00:05:48,415 --> 00:05:53,920 She talked about this almost the whole ride. 80 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,386 She kept saying, "My purpose is to go back to Texas, 81 00:06:00,552 --> 00:06:05,057 and to stop all of the injustices against blacks." 82 00:06:11,522 --> 00:06:16,361 Sandy called me on July 11... 83 00:06:16,653 --> 00:06:20,991 to let me know that she had been arrested. 84 00:06:21,158 --> 00:06:23,452 I said, "What are you in jail for?" 85 00:06:23,619 --> 00:06:26,038 She said, "You know, I really don't know." 86 00:06:26,205 --> 00:06:31,961 And she said, "My arm, my arm is hurting really bad." 87 00:06:32,128 --> 00:06:36,424 And I could hear her talking to the guards in the background. 88 00:06:36,591 --> 00:06:39,844 Then she said, "I'll call you back." 89 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:42,681 And she hung up the phone, 90 00:06:42,847 --> 00:06:45,767 and she never called back. 91 00:06:48,353 --> 00:06:51,774 I wouldn't wish this hurt on anyone. 92 00:06:52,649 --> 00:06:54,735 Anyone. 93 00:07:05,538 --> 00:07:10,502 Monday morning, when Ms. Bland was found in her cell, 94 00:07:10,669 --> 00:07:15,382 and the ambulance and medical help was being called, 95 00:07:15,549 --> 00:07:17,593 then I was notified. 96 00:07:18,761 --> 00:07:21,138 When I walked back to the cell, 97 00:07:21,305 --> 00:07:25,601 the justice of the peace was already here. 98 00:07:28,438 --> 00:07:32,901 It's a devastating call... to the Texas sheriff. 99 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:35,195 That's the last thing we want 100 00:07:35,362 --> 00:07:39,950 in our jail is not for everybody to come in here 101 00:07:40,117 --> 00:07:46,624 and leave here the same way they come in, if not healthier. 102 00:07:52,046 --> 00:07:55,425 I got a phone call from a friend of mine 103 00:07:55,591 --> 00:07:57,176 who's in the media in Houston. 104 00:07:57,343 --> 00:08:02,390 And he said, "Elton, what's going on with this hanging at the jail?" 105 00:08:02,557 --> 00:08:06,353 And I said, "Well. We had a hanging at the jail. 106 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,481 "As far as I know, the Texas Rangers are handling it, 107 00:08:09,648 --> 00:08:12,609 and that's about all I know." 108 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:17,907 "They'll give me a report when they finish it." 109 00:08:19,492 --> 00:08:20,868 It got a lot stranger. 110 00:08:21,035 --> 00:08:24,497 It was either that afternoon or the next morning, 111 00:08:24,664 --> 00:08:28,460 uh, everything hit the proverbial fan. 112 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,935 Police say Bland was arrested for resisting arrest 113 00:08:45,102 --> 00:08:49,440 and assaulting an officer, but so far the only video of the incident 114 00:08:49,607 --> 00:08:52,068 shows Bland on the ground. 115 00:08:52,235 --> 00:08:54,612 I don't believe I saw the bystander video 116 00:08:54,779 --> 00:08:57,908 until it was released to the public, which was Tuesday. 117 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,622 I couldn't understand why she was on the ground with this man's knee in her back. 118 00:09:03,789 --> 00:09:05,582 I could not understand that. 119 00:09:05,749 --> 00:09:09,920 As a sister, my heart, it hurts. 120 00:09:38,451 --> 00:09:41,329 So, of course, when the bystander video comes out, 121 00:09:41,496 --> 00:09:45,124 now I have a ton of questions because my mind goes to, 122 00:09:45,291 --> 00:09:48,294 okay, what happened before all of that 123 00:09:48,461 --> 00:09:52,090 to get her to the point where she's down on the ground... 124 00:09:52,257 --> 00:09:56,220 with this guy towering over her. 125 00:09:56,386 --> 00:10:01,058 And how do you go from this very strong woman 126 00:10:01,225 --> 00:10:06,230 to dead in jail by alleged suicide. 127 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:18,160 He got a hundred percent on that other test, 128 00:10:18,326 --> 00:10:20,704 so let him do what he-- he took care of it. 129 00:10:20,871 --> 00:10:23,874 Dad, where's the sugar? 130 00:10:24,208 --> 00:10:27,962 I'll see what happens. I'll let you know when she--when he lets me know. 131 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:29,839 He said that he's going to talk to her. 132 00:10:30,005 --> 00:10:33,050 I love you. Drive safely. 133 00:10:40,809 --> 00:10:42,519 My wife and I were in the car, 134 00:10:42,686 --> 00:10:45,021 and my wife told me Sandy Bland had passed, 135 00:10:45,188 --> 00:10:50,277 and I said, "Sandy Bland? Show me a picture of who you're talking about." 136 00:10:51,945 --> 00:10:54,156 She showed me a picture of Sandy, 137 00:10:54,323 --> 00:10:56,784 and I mean, you know, your heart kind of stops 138 00:10:56,951 --> 00:10:59,662 and you're... you're in shock. 139 00:11:00,913 --> 00:11:03,332 Sandy got rear-ended by a motorcycle 140 00:11:03,499 --> 00:11:06,836 on the 5th of April, 2015, 141 00:11:07,003 --> 00:11:10,382 and she contacted my office. 142 00:11:10,548 --> 00:11:12,676 She had a big personality, 143 00:11:12,843 --> 00:11:16,471 and it was a big, bright personality. 144 00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:18,724 See, I'm assessing people when I talk to them, 145 00:11:18,891 --> 00:11:22,061 trying to figure out what type of witness they're going to be. 146 00:11:22,228 --> 00:11:26,691 Is she going to be equipped to think on her feet? She was. 147 00:11:28,401 --> 00:11:31,154 Sandy died on the 13th of July. 148 00:11:31,321 --> 00:11:35,617 And from that next morning when I got a phone call from the family 149 00:11:35,784 --> 00:11:38,245 asking whether or not we could get involved, 150 00:11:38,411 --> 00:11:42,207 I mean, uh, you felt compelled. 151 00:11:50,549 --> 00:11:53,719 On Friday, we got down to Texas, 152 00:11:53,886 --> 00:11:56,305 and it's seven o'clock at night. 153 00:11:56,472 --> 00:11:59,851 -I'm about to pass out 'cause I'm so hungry. -I know, baby. I know. 154 00:12:00,018 --> 00:12:02,812 We were told, once you get here, 155 00:12:02,979 --> 00:12:07,943 it will be proven without a doubt. You'll be able to see... 156 00:12:08,110 --> 00:12:11,363 that she... 157 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:15,701 contributed in her own... death. 158 00:12:16,452 --> 00:12:19,956 The Texas Rangers, they walked us through footage, 159 00:12:20,122 --> 00:12:24,961 so they claimed, anyway, of the jail. 160 00:12:26,212 --> 00:12:31,301 We were looking, trying to see where Sandy was. 161 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:35,097 I didn't see her ever. 162 00:12:36,056 --> 00:12:38,892 The video that we viewed when we went down, 163 00:12:39,059 --> 00:12:43,522 it was only for the morning of Monday, July 13th. 164 00:12:43,689 --> 00:12:47,360 There's no time stamps, there's no dates. 165 00:12:47,527 --> 00:12:50,697 Her cell was all the way in the back corner. 166 00:12:50,863 --> 00:12:53,908 She was in cell number 95. 167 00:12:54,534 --> 00:13:01,166 The way they choose to phrase it is, where she was did not have cameras. 168 00:13:01,333 --> 00:13:03,794 But I would think that that would be strange. 169 00:13:03,961 --> 00:13:08,799 Then how are you monitoring your inmates? 170 00:13:10,593 --> 00:13:14,013 Why was she in a cell by herself? 171 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:17,392 That's a big cell for one person. 172 00:13:17,558 --> 00:13:20,061 And when they were wheeling the gurney out, 173 00:13:20,228 --> 00:13:24,232 I went, "Whoa, she's going to be on the gurney, right?" 174 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:27,778 Oh, no. She wasn't on the gurney. 175 00:13:28,654 --> 00:13:31,448 She was not on the gurney. 176 00:13:33,492 --> 00:13:37,872 And then the lead investigator for the Texas Rangers, Shane Ellison, 177 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:42,084 had told us that specifically Sandy made upwards of 21 phone calls. 178 00:13:42,251 --> 00:13:43,628 Yet they tell us they don't know 179 00:13:43,795 --> 00:13:46,631 what phones she used to make these 21 calls. 180 00:13:46,798 --> 00:13:49,718 That doesn't make sense to me. If you know she made 21 calls, 181 00:13:49,884 --> 00:13:55,265 then you've got to know what phones she used to make those calls. 182 00:13:55,682 --> 00:13:57,976 And then he also said that when he was called 183 00:13:58,143 --> 00:14:03,524 that that triggered a crime investigation, a criminal investigation. 184 00:14:03,691 --> 00:14:07,987 So I'm thinking that we're going to see the documentation by way of photographs. 185 00:14:08,154 --> 00:14:11,699 They showed us some photographs of her body in the cell. 186 00:14:11,866 --> 00:14:15,870 They did not have any photographs that depicted her hanging, 187 00:14:16,037 --> 00:14:20,417 and we were told explicitly that they don't exist. 188 00:14:22,252 --> 00:14:25,798 And she was hung from a trash bag. 189 00:14:26,006 --> 00:14:29,093 The trash bag is the ligature. 190 00:14:29,426 --> 00:14:31,095 I thought, where did this woman 191 00:14:31,262 --> 00:14:34,599 even get a plastic bag from? 192 00:14:34,765 --> 00:14:36,142 When you're booking an inmate, 193 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:39,896 you're stripping them of anything that would put them in a position 194 00:14:40,063 --> 00:14:43,400 to harm themselves. You're stripping them of their shoestrings. 195 00:14:43,566 --> 00:14:45,193 You're stripping them of their belt. 196 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,614 You're stripping them of their earrings. 197 00:14:49,781 --> 00:14:53,744 You have a 30-gallon trash can, 198 00:14:53,911 --> 00:14:55,579 in an inmate's cell, 199 00:14:55,746 --> 00:15:00,167 that gives them access to a plastic bag. 200 00:15:01,502 --> 00:15:06,341 If she was in as much pain as she says she was in, 201 00:15:06,508 --> 00:15:11,221 I just don't see how she could have tied that perfect, 202 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:14,599 very perfect noose. 203 00:15:15,434 --> 00:15:19,730 I know that we were grieving, but... we are a family of note-takers. 204 00:15:19,897 --> 00:15:25,444 We take notes of things that were being told to us that just didn't sound right. 205 00:15:32,785 --> 00:15:36,915 We view the dashcam video on the 21st, the day before we fly her home, 206 00:15:37,082 --> 00:15:38,875 so now I've got a ton of questions. 207 00:15:39,042 --> 00:15:41,795 Oh, I have a slew of questions, right? 208 00:17:55,437 --> 00:17:58,857 -For what? -..send me another unit. 209 00:18:28,722 --> 00:18:32,560 I'm sitting, I'm watching all of these violations occur. 210 00:18:32,727 --> 00:18:35,813 -Let's do this. -Yeah, we're going to. 211 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:37,607 That man slapped her. 212 00:18:37,774 --> 00:18:39,442 He slapped her, you can hear it. 213 00:18:39,609 --> 00:18:41,152 We're going to. 214 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:44,489 He reaches into the car, and you hear a smack, 215 00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:48,744 and then you see her head pulling away from him. 216 00:18:49,453 --> 00:18:54,375 The reason that the slap is important is because it's a battery. 217 00:18:58,462 --> 00:19:00,882 When she's recording him, "Put your phone down." 218 00:19:01,048 --> 00:19:04,928 "I have the right to record. This is my property." 219 00:19:22,571 --> 00:19:24,990 You tell her to turn around, she doesn't want to turn around. 220 00:19:25,157 --> 00:19:26,909 She says, "Why do I have to turn around?" two or three times, 221 00:19:27,076 --> 00:19:29,912 but ultimately turns around on her own. 222 00:20:13,375 --> 00:20:15,211 Stop it! 223 00:20:15,377 --> 00:20:20,174 I felt like, oh, my gosh, if she was treated that way, 224 00:20:20,341 --> 00:20:22,260 in public, cars are riding by, 225 00:20:22,427 --> 00:20:26,055 she's treated that way, on the road... 226 00:20:26,431 --> 00:20:29,225 what was going on in the jail? 227 00:20:30,602 --> 00:20:33,814 What was going on in there? 228 00:20:37,985 --> 00:20:42,865 When Sandy called me on Saturday, 229 00:20:43,032 --> 00:20:46,410 she told me that her bond was $500. 230 00:20:46,577 --> 00:20:49,080 And I told her that I had $100 231 00:20:49,247 --> 00:20:52,500 and I would work on getting the rest for her. 232 00:20:53,084 --> 00:20:56,254 She knows that I'm gonna come through for her. 233 00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:59,758 I just don't see her taking her own life. 234 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:01,969 I just don't see it. 235 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:09,185 Until we have concrete answers, as to the time of her death, 236 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:14,273 and whether or not that death could have been caused, 237 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,276 uh, by someone other than her, 238 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,363 until we have answers to those sorts of questions, 239 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:23,992 all options are on the table, they have to be. 240 00:21:25,952 --> 00:21:29,581 Anytime there's a jail hanging, a jail death, 241 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:31,333 that's treated as a homicide. 242 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:33,210 We're still waiting for a hard copy 243 00:21:33,377 --> 00:21:35,629 of the Harris County medical examiner's autopsy, 244 00:21:35,796 --> 00:21:39,675 and toxicology will probably be delayed about two weeks. 245 00:21:39,842 --> 00:21:41,385 At this point, this is still fresh. 246 00:21:41,552 --> 00:21:43,388 We're trying to respect the family and realize 247 00:21:43,554 --> 00:21:45,515 that they have a funeral that they need to plan. 248 00:21:45,682 --> 00:21:51,313 Ms. Bland's mother is anxious to get her daughter's body back to Illinois. 249 00:21:51,479 --> 00:21:53,064 As the lieutenant governor of Texas, 250 00:21:53,231 --> 00:21:58,112 yes, I want to be sure, we overturned every stone and looked at every fact. 251 00:21:58,612 --> 00:22:01,615 That's important for everyone, but it's most important for that family. 252 00:22:01,782 --> 00:22:03,325 -That's right. -I want that family, 253 00:22:03,492 --> 00:22:05,661 when they go back to Chicago... 254 00:22:05,828 --> 00:22:12,752 for when this is resolved, that they believe, they had justice in Texas. 255 00:22:33,774 --> 00:22:38,112 Riding back on a plane... 256 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:44,619 I sent her out of here on four wheels, 257 00:22:45,495 --> 00:22:48,457 and now she's coming back, 258 00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:51,877 under the plane, with the cargo. 259 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:58,300 Like these planes, she was ascending. 260 00:22:58,467 --> 00:22:59,969 She was going, going, 261 00:23:00,136 --> 00:23:04,098 and she got to a certain level, plateaued, 262 00:23:04,265 --> 00:23:06,976 and then she was gone. 263 00:23:08,645 --> 00:23:12,149 I am on the steps, if you can see behind me, of the DuSable Museum. 264 00:23:12,315 --> 00:23:15,235 I'm getting ready to walk in, but it's very, very interesting 265 00:23:15,402 --> 00:23:17,863 and amazing to know how much black history 266 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:21,617 is truly right here in our own city. 267 00:23:23,536 --> 00:23:28,833 Chicago was founded by a man of color: DuSable. 268 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,129 There needs to be a statue of that man in the heart of downtown. 269 00:23:33,296 --> 00:23:37,300 The first open-heart surgery, performed by Daniel Hale Williams. 270 00:23:37,467 --> 00:23:41,555 That was right on the south side of Chicago at Provident Hospital. 271 00:23:41,722 --> 00:23:44,600 Y'all, our history is so rich and deep, 272 00:23:44,766 --> 00:23:47,686 but it is up to us to find it. 273 00:23:50,773 --> 00:23:54,151 Sandy's number four in the pack. 274 00:23:55,153 --> 00:23:58,406 And Sandy was a helper. 275 00:24:01,534 --> 00:24:03,328 What about like this? 276 00:24:03,495 --> 00:24:05,997 Growing up, we didn't have a lot of money. 277 00:24:06,164 --> 00:24:07,666 Can you say, "Please, Mommy, please?" 278 00:24:07,833 --> 00:24:11,879 My mom had my first sister when she was 15, and... 279 00:24:12,045 --> 00:24:14,465 she had all of us by the time she was 25. 280 00:24:14,632 --> 00:24:17,885 And then if I get a chance to taste it, I'll taste it. 281 00:24:18,052 --> 00:24:20,638 My mother was very strict about education. 282 00:24:20,805 --> 00:24:25,101 If we were sick, we had to go to school, it didn't matter. 283 00:24:25,268 --> 00:24:27,937 I was called "The Warden." 284 00:24:28,104 --> 00:24:29,898 I'm your mom. 285 00:24:30,065 --> 00:24:34,403 I'm not your schoolmate. 286 00:24:34,569 --> 00:24:38,991 But I don't remember Sandy accepting "no." 287 00:24:43,621 --> 00:24:45,957 She knew she wanted to go to college. 288 00:24:46,123 --> 00:24:48,209 The HBCUs came to the Chicago-land area, 289 00:24:48,376 --> 00:24:51,212 the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. 290 00:24:51,379 --> 00:24:54,007 And she happened upon Prairie View, 291 00:24:54,174 --> 00:24:58,053 and they gave her a scholarship, a band scholarship. 292 00:24:59,471 --> 00:25:05,144 It's a big deal to be a part of a band at an African-American institution. 293 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:10,691 But it also meant doing something that nobody in this family ever did, 294 00:25:10,858 --> 00:25:12,610 which was leave home, 295 00:25:12,777 --> 00:25:20,034 and go miles away from this very close-knit family... to Texas. 296 00:25:41,224 --> 00:25:45,103 We're right on the west side of Houston. 297 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:49,524 And most of our business here is farming, but... 298 00:25:49,691 --> 00:25:56,865 here at the sheriff's office, one of our primary focuses is obviously the jail. 299 00:25:58,158 --> 00:26:02,454 A county jail, we're not here for punishment. 300 00:26:02,621 --> 00:26:06,250 We're here to hold you till you go to court, 301 00:26:06,417 --> 00:26:10,129 and then decide what your punishment is. 302 00:26:13,758 --> 00:26:19,431 We are that guardian, that, "Okay, we gotta get 'em through this." 303 00:26:21,642 --> 00:26:27,815 Sheriff Glenn Smith used to be chief of police in Hempstead. 304 00:26:27,982 --> 00:26:34,030 Chief Smith had complaints of racial intimidation. 305 00:26:34,906 --> 00:26:36,657 They reprimanded him, 306 00:26:36,824 --> 00:26:38,242 they sent him to sensitivity training, 307 00:26:38,409 --> 00:26:42,122 and in spite of all of that, he continued to get reports. 308 00:26:42,288 --> 00:26:48,962 But, eventually, he won the election to be the sheriff of Waller County. 309 00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:50,756 Taking a lot of classes? 310 00:26:50,923 --> 00:26:52,424 Prairie View is over-policed. 311 00:26:52,591 --> 00:26:54,093 Here's a copy of the warning. 312 00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:56,470 You are policed by university campus, 313 00:26:56,637 --> 00:27:00,266 city of Prairie View, you're policed by the state troopers, 314 00:27:00,433 --> 00:27:04,145 you're policed by the sheriff, Waller County, 315 00:27:04,312 --> 00:27:08,691 and the constables. That's five people for this area. 316 00:27:09,317 --> 00:27:15,157 This is the same county that me and Sandy marched to vote, in 2008. 317 00:27:15,324 --> 00:27:18,911 Because they didn't want the student population to vote, 318 00:27:19,078 --> 00:27:21,830 so we wouldn't offset their voting. 319 00:27:21,997 --> 00:27:25,459 We're in Texas. It's always been the good old boys system. 320 00:27:25,626 --> 00:27:29,005 Good old boys taking care of the good old boys. 321 00:27:29,964 --> 00:27:32,467 This county unfortunately goes all the way back 322 00:27:32,634 --> 00:27:37,305 to the Civil War, and it is a sensitive topic. 323 00:27:37,764 --> 00:27:42,269 Do we have prejudice in this county? Yes. You know. 324 00:27:42,436 --> 00:27:45,981 Do we have it across the country? Yes. 325 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:59,162 Sandy had come back from Prairie View initially, 326 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:01,456 and was trying to kind of find herself... 327 00:28:01,623 --> 00:28:06,628 doing different jobs, trying to figure out where she fit. 328 00:28:06,795 --> 00:28:10,257 Hi, I'm Sandy, and I'm the administrative assistant here at Cook's. 329 00:28:10,424 --> 00:28:14,345 Today, I'm going to be talking to you about copolymers and polycarbonates. 330 00:28:14,511 --> 00:28:19,976 With Cooks, she found out that one of their biggest accounts 331 00:28:20,142 --> 00:28:21,686 was the penitentiary system. 332 00:28:22,603 --> 00:28:24,480 And she said, "I can't work for a company 333 00:28:24,647 --> 00:28:26,524 that's doing this kind of stuff." 334 00:28:26,691 --> 00:28:28,109 The softness of the material 335 00:28:28,276 --> 00:28:30,487 is important because it means it will not shatter 336 00:28:30,654 --> 00:28:33,448 and it cannot be easily sharpened into a weapon. 337 00:28:33,615 --> 00:28:35,158 You find so many meal delivery products... 338 00:28:35,325 --> 00:28:37,786 It was in direct conflict with her morals, 339 00:28:37,953 --> 00:28:43,626 in terms of mass incarceration of disenfranchised people. 340 00:28:43,793 --> 00:28:47,672 After that, she'd had a couple of job opportunities that she didn't get, 341 00:28:47,838 --> 00:28:49,841 even though she felt like she did great, so, 342 00:28:50,007 --> 00:28:53,178 that would frustrate her sometimes. 343 00:28:53,511 --> 00:28:56,014 You've spent four years at a university 344 00:28:56,181 --> 00:29:00,394 and wracked up all this debt and you can't find a darn job? 345 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,521 In your field? 346 00:29:02,688 --> 00:29:05,566 You're not going to be too happy about that. 347 00:29:08,152 --> 00:29:10,863 I've been really stressed out over these past couple of weeks, 348 00:29:11,030 --> 00:29:13,115 suffering from depression. 349 00:29:13,282 --> 00:29:17,537 And I started crying, and in the middle of my tears, 350 00:29:17,704 --> 00:29:22,542 in my head, I just heard the song, "God Blocked It." 351 00:29:22,709 --> 00:29:27,464 It let me know that everything was going to be okay. It will be okay. 352 00:29:28,048 --> 00:29:33,053 God let me know that you have got work to do. 353 00:29:34,513 --> 00:29:36,432 I always knew what she was capable of, 354 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,018 which was harnessing her voice, being anchored in it. 355 00:29:39,185 --> 00:29:43,022 and doing something about things that she just felt wasn't right. 356 00:29:43,189 --> 00:29:46,484 -Hold on, hold on, hold on. -Don't touch me. 357 00:29:46,651 --> 00:29:49,571 The most recent case of alleged police brutality here... 358 00:29:49,738 --> 00:29:52,866 ...their safety and don't feel that they can trust the police officer, 359 00:29:53,033 --> 00:29:54,409 and then police officers... 360 00:30:03,711 --> 00:30:07,715 Hey, y'all. So... I don't know where to look. 361 00:30:07,882 --> 00:30:13,137 And if I'm lookin' a little crazy, it's 'cause this is a test. Um... 362 00:30:13,304 --> 00:30:15,598 I wanted to make this video message 363 00:30:15,765 --> 00:30:19,394 and plant my seed of "Sandy Speaks." 364 00:30:19,561 --> 00:30:23,482 I know my head probably looks a little crazy right now, 365 00:30:23,649 --> 00:30:27,069 but, um... with the police brutality 366 00:30:27,236 --> 00:30:29,864 and all of the things that have been going on in the news 367 00:30:30,030 --> 00:30:34,577 somewhere along the way, we've forgotten about an important group, 368 00:30:34,744 --> 00:30:38,498 which are the kids. Um... I don't have any kids. 369 00:30:38,665 --> 00:30:43,378 I do have an eight-year-old and a 14-year-old nephew. 370 00:30:43,545 --> 00:30:47,799 Sorry, my battery about to die. I ain't even got my cord. Um... 371 00:30:47,966 --> 00:30:54,723 Through "Sandy Speaks," we are going to open up a gateway for the kids. 372 00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:58,602 Educating them on interacting with police. 373 00:30:58,769 --> 00:31:01,939 I don't think it's ever too early. 374 00:31:02,106 --> 00:31:04,025 And if you're a cop out there and you're watching this, 375 00:31:04,192 --> 00:31:07,487 here is your chance to say something and educate these kids, 376 00:31:07,654 --> 00:31:10,073 'cause again, I'm here to change history. 377 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,453 This thing that I'm holding in my hand, this telephone, this camera, 378 00:31:14,619 --> 00:31:16,663 it is quite powerful. 379 00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:19,124 Social media is powerful. We can do something with this. 380 00:31:19,291 --> 00:31:25,423 If we want to change, we can really, truly make it happen. "Sandy Speaks." 381 00:31:25,589 --> 00:31:28,551 When she first posted her "Sandy Speaks" on Facebook, 382 00:31:28,718 --> 00:31:32,472 I got all these notifications from Sandy. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 383 00:31:32,639 --> 00:31:35,517 That was her channeling that energy. 384 00:31:35,683 --> 00:31:38,979 This fight for civil rights, it still goes on right now. 385 00:31:39,146 --> 00:31:43,400 Although it's not called civil rights, that is what it is. 386 00:31:43,567 --> 00:31:45,277 Your right to be a civilian. 387 00:31:45,736 --> 00:31:47,613 We are still in that fight today, 388 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:49,782 so please don't think it's over. 'Cause it's not. 389 00:31:49,949 --> 00:31:55,413 You are going to have to stand before God, and he is going to ask you, 390 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,625 were you able to show love to your white man. 391 00:31:58,791 --> 00:32:02,462 Because that's the ultimate test. I really, I believe that. 392 00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:06,591 We are so valuable to this country, to this nation as a whole, 393 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:12,848 but we will never succeed and we will never thrive as a culture, 394 00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:16,602 as a country, if we don't wake up. 395 00:32:16,769 --> 00:32:20,106 Black-on-black crime numbers are extremely high. 396 00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:23,860 These gangbangers and drug dealers, the people that they're shooting 397 00:32:24,027 --> 00:32:26,279 are not other gangbangers and drug dealers. 398 00:32:26,446 --> 00:32:27,822 They are killing our babies. 399 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:31,952 Why do we keep acting like niggers? Excuse my French. 400 00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:33,912 But that is what we keep acting like. 401 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,748 She was speaking some real powerful stuff, 402 00:32:36,915 --> 00:32:42,129 that some people would not have dare been able to even speak. 403 00:32:42,296 --> 00:32:44,090 We have to just stop icing these things over. 404 00:32:44,256 --> 00:32:47,051 We have to stop acting like they don't matter. 405 00:32:47,218 --> 00:32:50,513 And so Sandy is going to speak whenever I see something wrong. 406 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,056 I thank you guys, I love you guys... 407 00:32:52,223 --> 00:32:54,267 What she was really saying in her messages, 408 00:32:54,434 --> 00:32:58,939 we can no longer be passive about these things. 409 00:32:59,105 --> 00:33:01,900 Not somebody has to do something about it. 410 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:05,028 We have to do something about it. 411 00:33:05,195 --> 00:33:07,072 She gets a call from Prairie View 412 00:33:07,239 --> 00:33:10,868 that there is a job opportunity. It was a temp job. 413 00:33:11,035 --> 00:33:14,956 And they said, we need you to be here to do this job interview. 414 00:33:15,122 --> 00:33:17,417 Well, at first I was like, "You know, you just left. 415 00:33:17,583 --> 00:33:19,127 "You didn't tell us or anything." And she was like, 416 00:33:19,294 --> 00:33:25,217 "It was going to be too emotional and I needed to do this, for me." 417 00:33:43,403 --> 00:33:49,409 To be successful in this world, you have to know how to work with white people. 418 00:33:49,826 --> 00:33:51,620 What "Sandy Speaks" wants to do 419 00:33:51,786 --> 00:33:55,332 is let my kings and queens know, you can do it. 420 00:33:55,499 --> 00:33:59,628 We can be successful. It is up to us. 421 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:09,680 I'm here! I am in Prairie View, Texas. 422 00:34:09,847 --> 00:34:15,478 Back at the crib. See the sign for PVAMU right there. 423 00:34:17,314 --> 00:34:19,191 I'm home! 424 00:34:19,608 --> 00:34:21,735 Exiting 10-98 now. 425 00:34:21,902 --> 00:34:23,946 Welcome back. Oh, Lord. 426 00:34:24,112 --> 00:34:27,282 I'm about to go over Waller County line. 427 00:34:28,784 --> 00:34:30,494 Hi Mommy, it's me. 428 00:34:30,661 --> 00:34:35,625 Just wanted to let you know that I made it, I am here! 429 00:34:35,792 --> 00:34:40,755 I am here. Call me when you get a chance. Love you. Bye-bye. 430 00:34:43,008 --> 00:34:45,760 When I got to my house, she was already in the driveway. 431 00:34:45,927 --> 00:34:47,304 Said, "Interview at one o'clock." 432 00:34:47,471 --> 00:34:51,350 So she went in, she changed, she showered. She said, "How do I look?" 433 00:34:51,517 --> 00:34:54,353 I said, "You look like you're about to get a job." 434 00:34:54,728 --> 00:34:57,231 Today, y'all, we're going to talk about hair. 435 00:34:57,398 --> 00:34:58,774 I don't know if many of y'all saw my post 436 00:34:58,941 --> 00:35:02,278 about how ready I am for my locks, but if you could see, 437 00:35:02,445 --> 00:35:03,863 yeah, I got my natural back. 438 00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:08,660 My fellow kings and queens always find something to laugh or poke fun about it, 439 00:35:08,827 --> 00:35:14,332 but, baby, under that edge-up, you got naps. 440 00:35:14,499 --> 00:35:17,753 Sweetie pie, under that Brazilian, you got naps. 441 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,340 Before you get that perm, you have naps. 442 00:35:21,507 --> 00:35:22,925 So let's just cut it out. Let's stop hatin' 443 00:35:23,092 --> 00:35:25,261 on people 'cause their hair's natural. 444 00:35:25,428 --> 00:35:27,013 It's only hair. 445 00:35:27,179 --> 00:35:30,308 Okay? I love y'all. 446 00:35:30,475 --> 00:35:34,604 Friday, Sandy just called to say, "Hey, I got it." 447 00:35:34,771 --> 00:35:38,275 I'm about to start in a few days. I got it, Mom!" 448 00:35:38,692 --> 00:35:40,777 She was going to work, but then she was also 449 00:35:40,944 --> 00:35:43,447 going to work on her master's in political science. 450 00:35:43,614 --> 00:35:48,869 She goes, "I'm going to the grocery store, and I'll talk to you later." 451 00:35:49,995 --> 00:35:52,081 I text her and I say, 452 00:35:52,248 --> 00:35:58,379 "Watch out, Prairie View. Werk it, girl." 453 00:36:07,597 --> 00:36:12,478 Friday afternoon, tables turned. 454 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:15,606 Everything's different. 455 00:36:57,984 --> 00:37:00,362 That night, about 10 o'clock, my phone rings, 456 00:37:00,529 --> 00:37:06,118 and I look at it on the caller ID and it said Waller County Sheriff's Department. 457 00:37:06,285 --> 00:37:07,953 And of course, I answer the phone. 458 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,957 And it was Sandra Bland, and she was upset. 459 00:37:12,124 --> 00:37:14,210 Not crying, upset 'cause of what happened, 460 00:37:14,377 --> 00:37:18,131 she was pissed because of what happened. 461 00:37:19,257 --> 00:37:22,343 The main charge that she come in here with 462 00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:26,389 was assault on a public servant. 463 00:37:29,309 --> 00:37:36,025 And Ms. Bland, unfortunately, had a past criminal record. 464 00:37:36,192 --> 00:37:40,988 It was minor charges, a small amount of marijuana, maybe. 465 00:37:41,155 --> 00:37:44,409 But the current charge of a felony 466 00:37:44,575 --> 00:37:48,997 put her just in that different category. 467 00:37:52,626 --> 00:37:55,420 But I'm a country sheriff. 468 00:37:55,587 --> 00:37:56,964 I'm a conservative. 469 00:37:57,130 --> 00:38:00,426 By God, don't go violating the law or we're gonna get you. 470 00:38:00,592 --> 00:38:04,680 And you should be punished if you're found guilty. 471 00:38:04,847 --> 00:38:07,892 I mean, that's me. 472 00:38:08,851 --> 00:38:11,980 Hey, this is me. I'm, um... 473 00:38:12,146 --> 00:38:13,606 I just was able to see the judge. 474 00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:18,153 I don't really know, they got me sitting in a $5,000 bond. 475 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,783 I'm still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process. 476 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:24,993 How this switching lanes with no signal 477 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,579 turned into all of this, I don't even know. 478 00:38:27,746 --> 00:38:29,456 Um, but I'm still here. 479 00:38:29,623 --> 00:38:33,044 So, I guess call me back when you can. 480 00:38:36,506 --> 00:38:40,510 Ms. Bland's bond was set at $5,000. 481 00:38:40,677 --> 00:38:45,348 But most bondsmen here charge about 10 percent. 482 00:38:45,515 --> 00:38:49,811 So basically, it'd have been about 500. 483 00:38:51,522 --> 00:38:53,607 She called me from the jail. 484 00:38:53,774 --> 00:38:55,859 She didn't have any money, what she said. 485 00:38:56,026 --> 00:38:59,697 And I said, "Well, you got somebody that can help you, 486 00:38:59,864 --> 00:39:02,450 or I need to call?" 487 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:05,745 I called her sister, and her sister said, 488 00:39:05,912 --> 00:39:07,413 "I had told Sandra all I had was..." 489 00:39:07,580 --> 00:39:11,376 I think she said a hundred, and "My rent's due," blah, blah, blah. 490 00:39:11,543 --> 00:39:15,172 So the next person called me after that was her mom. 491 00:39:15,339 --> 00:39:20,344 I say, "Okay. I'm going to get with the rest of the family, 492 00:39:20,511 --> 00:39:23,347 and we'll get back with you." 493 00:39:25,641 --> 00:39:27,018 There was no sense of, 494 00:39:27,602 --> 00:39:32,273 Oh, Jesus, I gotta jump down here, go on a plane and go do this right now. 495 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,442 No. 496 00:39:35,527 --> 00:39:38,280 The main thing for us was, 497 00:39:38,446 --> 00:39:41,533 she said, "I'm gonna call you back." 498 00:39:43,368 --> 00:39:45,287 And the next phone call I got from the family was 499 00:39:45,454 --> 00:39:49,375 that Monday afternoon, when her mom called me and said, uh... 500 00:39:49,542 --> 00:39:54,088 "Mr. Booker, they said my daughter's in the morgue," and that was it. 501 00:39:56,966 --> 00:39:59,510 We were very upset and saddened by it, 502 00:39:59,677 --> 00:40:01,262 but at the same time, 503 00:40:01,429 --> 00:40:03,223 myself and Elton Mathis 504 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:07,018 we were bound and determined to make sure whatever the process was, 505 00:40:07,185 --> 00:40:09,271 that it would be open and transparent 506 00:40:09,438 --> 00:40:11,815 from the beginning till the end. 507 00:40:14,193 --> 00:40:20,491 The truth is, it was not the authorities that called me. I'm the mom. 508 00:40:21,325 --> 00:40:28,416 There was never a phone call from Waller County about Sandy's death. 509 00:40:31,253 --> 00:40:33,255 When someone told me that Sandy hung herself, 510 00:40:33,421 --> 00:40:36,049 it was like this overwhelming feeling of oppression. 511 00:40:36,216 --> 00:40:38,260 Right, 'cause the thing that happened with the kids 512 00:40:38,427 --> 00:40:43,891 in Texas, where they were body-slammed at the pool party had just happened. 513 00:40:44,225 --> 00:40:45,726 Get down! Down! 514 00:40:45,893 --> 00:40:48,604 There was so much unrest in the country, 515 00:40:48,771 --> 00:40:51,524 and this is not just happening on TV, 516 00:40:51,691 --> 00:40:53,776 and it's happening to someone who you knew. 517 00:40:53,943 --> 00:40:58,782 None of that made sense about who she was, the type of person she was, 518 00:40:58,949 --> 00:41:01,702 the type of fighter that she was. 519 00:41:01,868 --> 00:41:03,620 Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 520 00:41:03,787 --> 00:41:09,877 If you could see my poster, here, "All white people are not against us." 521 00:41:16,259 --> 00:41:17,719 -So call the police. -Okay. 522 00:41:17,885 --> 00:41:20,513 All right. Go ahead. 523 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,056 Go right ahead. 524 00:41:22,223 --> 00:41:25,977 All right. Y'all see it. The police are about to get called. 525 00:41:26,144 --> 00:41:29,356 "Sandy Speaks." Game is on. 526 00:41:32,025 --> 00:41:34,695 When the video came out, I was enraged. 527 00:41:34,862 --> 00:41:36,739 That she would go into a jail 528 00:41:36,906 --> 00:41:42,078 and cower away and kill herself made no sense to me. 529 00:41:42,245 --> 00:41:43,913 Something was not right. 530 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000 I just kept posting articles and information and trying to get people 531 00:41:47,167 --> 00:41:49,794 out there, and like, Sandra Bland. Say her name, say her name. 532 00:41:49,961 --> 00:41:53,799 Prairie View alumni kept tweeting and tweeting and Instagram-ing 533 00:41:53,965 --> 00:41:58,178 and Facebook-ing and hashtag-ing her name everywhere. 534 00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:09,065 Hello, this is Hannah Bonner. I'm here at the Waller County Jail. 535 00:42:09,232 --> 00:42:13,194 When Sandra died, we had not seen a woman's name 536 00:42:13,361 --> 00:42:16,031 have that staying power that we had seen 537 00:42:16,197 --> 00:42:19,201 with Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin. 538 00:42:19,367 --> 00:42:25,958 Women had died, but we had not continued to say their names. 539 00:42:30,713 --> 00:42:36,719 So she died on Monday, and by Wednesday night I was at the jail. 540 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:42,308 And we lit a candle that had the hashtag: 541 00:42:42,475 --> 00:42:44,811 What Happened to Sandra Bland. 542 00:42:44,978 --> 00:42:48,899 And so somebody from inside the jail blew the candle out. 543 00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:52,986 You have a responsibility to serve and protect me. 544 00:42:53,153 --> 00:42:54,947 -No, I don't. -Oh. Oh! 545 00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:59,327 -You don't? -You don't want me to. 546 00:43:00,036 --> 00:43:05,124 Then we started projecting onto the wall of the jail. 547 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:10,380 I was asked, was I trying to racially unite 548 00:43:10,547 --> 00:43:13,467 or racially incite. 549 00:43:13,967 --> 00:43:16,887 Well, honestly, I feel that 550 00:43:17,054 --> 00:43:21,558 my goal is to racially unite. Now... 551 00:43:21,725 --> 00:43:26,230 in the process of doing that, some people will be incited, 552 00:43:26,397 --> 00:43:32,320 i.e. upset, because based on the history of America, 553 00:43:32,487 --> 00:43:38,743 it is not good when it comes to black and white people. 554 00:43:46,794 --> 00:43:49,964 Sandra Bland didn't have to be here. 555 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,967 America allowed this to happen. 556 00:43:53,134 --> 00:43:57,388 Because these idiots, these Europeans have miseducated our people. 557 00:43:57,555 --> 00:44:00,350 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 558 00:44:00,517 --> 00:44:03,061 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 559 00:44:03,228 --> 00:44:05,188 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 560 00:44:05,355 --> 00:44:07,357 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 561 00:44:07,524 --> 00:44:10,027 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 562 00:44:10,193 --> 00:44:12,946 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 563 00:44:13,113 --> 00:44:15,950 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 564 00:44:16,116 --> 00:44:18,869 -Revolution has come! -Off the pig! 565 00:44:19,036 --> 00:44:21,622 -No more sisters in jail! -Off the pig! 566 00:44:21,789 --> 00:44:25,084 -Pigs are going to catch hell! -Off the pig! 567 00:44:25,251 --> 00:44:26,628 -Oink, oink! -Oink, oink! 568 00:44:27,879 --> 00:44:30,090 Panther patch, it says, "Freedom or death!" 569 00:44:30,256 --> 00:44:31,716 And we mean it till our last breath! 570 00:44:31,883 --> 00:44:33,468 And we mean it till our last breath! 571 00:44:33,635 --> 00:44:35,012 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 572 00:44:35,178 --> 00:44:37,347 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 573 00:44:41,644 --> 00:44:43,145 We're back in Chicago. 574 00:44:43,312 --> 00:44:49,152 Sandy is back in Chicago, and we're preparing to bury her. 575 00:44:49,318 --> 00:44:51,529 We're burying her on Saturday. 576 00:44:52,447 --> 00:44:55,450 And my first text that I receive from Mr. Mathis, 577 00:44:55,617 --> 00:44:57,911 the district attorney down there, 578 00:44:58,078 --> 00:45:02,082 he says to me at 4:58, "Where is the body? 579 00:45:02,249 --> 00:45:05,294 "Do you have the results back on your autopsy?" 580 00:45:05,461 --> 00:45:11,592 I say in response, "Sandy is here with us. We haven't received our report yet." 581 00:45:11,759 --> 00:45:15,346 So this is part of what makes me start to feel like 582 00:45:15,513 --> 00:45:17,432 there's a little gamesmanship that's going on 583 00:45:17,598 --> 00:45:20,768 because he knows that I can't have a full autopsy report. 584 00:45:20,935 --> 00:45:26,525 He then says, "Looking at the autopsy results and toxicology, 585 00:45:26,691 --> 00:45:28,944 "it appears that she may have swallowed 586 00:45:29,111 --> 00:45:31,196 a large quantity of marijuana or smoked it in jail. 587 00:45:31,363 --> 00:45:34,199 "Since your client has possession of Ms. Bland's body, 588 00:45:34,366 --> 00:45:38,454 "I must ask it not be disturbed any more than necessary 589 00:45:38,621 --> 00:45:44,377 "and that a proper chain of custody be kept, so that she will be available 590 00:45:44,544 --> 00:45:48,757 "for future examination by qualified experts. 591 00:45:48,923 --> 00:45:50,800 Notice is given at 5:10 p.m." 592 00:45:50,967 --> 00:45:54,262 That "notice is given at 5:10 p.m." is a specific effort 593 00:45:54,429 --> 00:45:55,973 to try and shift the burden 594 00:45:56,139 --> 00:45:59,351 as it relates to the destruction of evidence on this family 595 00:45:59,518 --> 00:46:01,145 when they know that they're about to bury her. 596 00:46:01,312 --> 00:46:08,444 You don't release a body if there's more tests that you need on that body. 597 00:46:08,611 --> 00:46:10,113 Do you think that's enough to cover some? I mean-- 598 00:46:10,279 --> 00:46:13,658 You're not only going to be asking what the policies, procedures, protocols, 599 00:46:13,825 --> 00:46:16,119 and guidelines are, but you're also going to say, 600 00:46:16,286 --> 00:46:18,121 -"as it relates to booking." -That makes sense. 601 00:46:18,288 --> 00:46:23,293 Perfect. When you start to deal with, frankly, deception, 602 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:25,420 we could potentially file a lawsuit, 603 00:46:25,587 --> 00:46:28,007 if we wanted to, down there, in Waller County. 604 00:46:28,173 --> 00:46:30,759 You file a suit so you can make people 605 00:46:30,926 --> 00:46:33,721 give you the information that the family is entitled to. 606 00:46:33,888 --> 00:46:36,849 I mean, for Christ's sakes she died in their custody. 607 00:46:37,016 --> 00:46:39,727 We were able to get access to Sandra Bland's cell. 608 00:46:39,894 --> 00:46:42,605 You can see they've left a lot of it just like the way it was. 609 00:46:42,772 --> 00:46:44,149 The food is still sitting here. 610 00:46:44,316 --> 00:46:46,693 The bed is still in the same arrangement that it was left in. 611 00:46:46,860 --> 00:46:48,862 But there's a lot of attention being paid 612 00:46:49,029 --> 00:46:50,822 to the trash bag just like this one. 613 00:46:50,989 --> 00:46:52,991 And this trash liner. Of course, this trash liner 614 00:46:53,158 --> 00:46:55,578 is what's believed that was used 615 00:46:55,744 --> 00:46:58,956 to string up here, and for Sandra Bland to hang herself. 616 00:46:59,123 --> 00:47:03,002 There were reporters, as we know, go into the cell, 617 00:47:03,169 --> 00:47:06,339 in its state that it was claimed to have been in 618 00:47:06,506 --> 00:47:08,299 at the time that Sandy passed. 619 00:47:08,466 --> 00:47:12,220 And that says that is not being preserved. 620 00:47:12,387 --> 00:47:19,436 It just blows my mind that that could have happened, but it did. 621 00:47:32,283 --> 00:47:35,203 Eighteen years ago, 622 00:47:35,370 --> 00:47:36,955 a single parent 623 00:47:37,122 --> 00:47:43,128 brought five little girls to this church. 624 00:47:43,295 --> 00:47:49,802 And Sandra Bland was one of our victories. 625 00:47:49,969 --> 00:47:53,347 Before she was formed... 626 00:47:53,514 --> 00:47:56,976 God spoke into her spirit. 627 00:47:57,268 --> 00:48:03,066 "Now I'm sending you into a strange land. 628 00:48:03,233 --> 00:48:06,236 "All of the authorities are not fair. 629 00:48:06,403 --> 00:48:09,072 "All of the politicians are not honest. 630 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,078 "And I'm sending you, Sandy Bland-- that's what they're going to name you-- 631 00:48:14,244 --> 00:48:19,333 I'm sending you not to shut up, but to speak up." 632 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,295 And here came Sandy. 633 00:48:22,461 --> 00:48:26,883 "Good morning, my kings and queens. 634 00:48:27,425 --> 00:48:32,305 "I'm not a racist. I don't believe in violence. 635 00:48:32,472 --> 00:48:35,183 "I'm not trying to incite. 636 00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:37,394 "I'm trying to unite. 637 00:48:37,561 --> 00:48:41,065 "Sandy Speaks." 638 00:48:41,231 --> 00:48:42,608 As a matter of fact... 639 00:48:42,775 --> 00:48:44,485 ...when I think of Sandy Bland, 640 00:48:44,652 --> 00:48:49,866 I'm going to think of more than an outspoken, strong-willed black woman. 641 00:48:50,032 --> 00:48:54,162 But I'm going to think of Jesus! Oh, yes I am! 642 00:48:54,329 --> 00:49:00,043 'Cause don't you know, Sandy was raised in a blended family. 643 00:49:00,210 --> 00:49:04,798 Like Jesus, she was brutally arrested. 644 00:49:04,965 --> 00:49:10,930 Like Jesus, she died in the custody of authority. 645 00:49:11,096 --> 00:49:16,185 Like Jesus, Sandy's still speaking. 646 00:49:16,352 --> 00:49:18,730 Are you listening? 647 00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:21,775 Are you listening? 648 00:49:48,928 --> 00:49:51,598 I lost my best friend and my sister. 649 00:49:55,310 --> 00:49:57,938 And I know that the closure 650 00:49:58,105 --> 00:50:03,485 that I need will not come until the legal process is complete. 651 00:50:21,254 --> 00:50:25,801 I assembled a team of special prosecutors. 652 00:50:25,968 --> 00:50:29,847 Two African-American special prosecutors, 653 00:50:30,014 --> 00:50:32,558 a female prosecutor, Anglo, 654 00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:35,186 and two male Anglo prosecutors, 655 00:50:35,353 --> 00:50:39,857 all of which were actually defense attorneys-- 656 00:50:40,024 --> 00:50:44,279 people that would traditionally be antagonistic 657 00:50:44,446 --> 00:50:46,198 toward law enforcement, 658 00:50:46,364 --> 00:50:52,246 to come in and review what happened to Sandy in that jail. 659 00:50:52,412 --> 00:50:55,082 The saying is that a prosecutor 660 00:50:55,249 --> 00:50:58,919 can use a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. 661 00:50:59,086 --> 00:51:00,796 Basically, whatever result 662 00:51:00,963 --> 00:51:03,591 the prosecutor wants to see come out of the grand jury, 663 00:51:03,758 --> 00:51:07,554 they can manipulate the evidence to secure. 664 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:14,144 I disagree with the old statement that you can indict a ham sandwich. 665 00:51:14,311 --> 00:51:17,147 My grand jurors have always been smarter than that. 666 00:51:17,314 --> 00:51:22,611 And my grand jurors don't just let me come in and do whatever I want. 667 00:51:26,991 --> 00:51:33,081 I think it's a... a farce, the criminal investigation. 668 00:51:33,248 --> 00:51:37,252 I bet you money that the DA down there, they'll say, 669 00:51:37,419 --> 00:51:41,131 "All of the evidence that we presented to the grand jury was assessed, 670 00:51:41,298 --> 00:51:44,843 "and they made a determination that nobody should be charged." 671 00:51:45,010 --> 00:51:48,472 But the practical reality of a grand jury investigation 672 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,057 is that it's not adversarial. 673 00:51:50,224 --> 00:51:53,352 I can't be there, I don't get to submit any evidence. 674 00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:58,358 They get to choose what evidence they submit and what evidence they don't. 675 00:51:58,524 --> 00:52:00,235 They may not choose to submit 676 00:52:00,401 --> 00:52:04,406 any of the dashcam video if they investigate Encinia. 677 00:52:04,572 --> 00:52:07,451 They get to say, "Sandy was pulled over 678 00:52:07,617 --> 00:52:10,787 because she failed to use her turn signal. 679 00:52:10,954 --> 00:52:15,125 "She got aggressive, and she had to be arrested." 680 00:52:15,292 --> 00:52:16,836 And there's no way for us to know 681 00:52:17,002 --> 00:52:19,797 whether or not that's all the evidence they really give. 682 00:52:19,964 --> 00:52:22,175 Why? Because it's a secret proceeding. 683 00:52:22,341 --> 00:52:26,137 It's a secret proceeding that no one will ever be able to access. 684 00:52:26,304 --> 00:52:28,640 In two miles take Exit 2, 685 00:52:28,807 --> 00:52:31,309 -79A for US... to US-20... -Oh! 686 00:52:31,476 --> 00:52:34,730 -...US-45 La Grange Road. -Okay. 687 00:52:37,733 --> 00:52:41,570 This is in Maryland, they have a mobile billboard 688 00:52:41,737 --> 00:52:46,909 that says "Department of Justice, Launch an Investigation. 689 00:52:47,076 --> 00:52:49,162 Justice for Sandra Bland." 690 00:52:49,328 --> 00:52:52,290 That was on the side of someone's truck. 691 00:52:52,999 --> 00:52:57,629 I feel like a large part of the world has glossed over the stop, 692 00:52:57,796 --> 00:53:00,465 and they just talk about how she got in jail 693 00:53:00,632 --> 00:53:03,927 and what may have happened in jail. 694 00:53:04,094 --> 00:53:05,596 When you terminate someone, 695 00:53:05,762 --> 00:53:08,557 you are letting them know that you have broken protocol. 696 00:53:08,724 --> 00:53:10,976 and you have put us as an organization at risk. 697 00:53:11,143 --> 00:53:16,899 And so why that hasn't happened with Officer Encinia, I don't know. 698 00:53:22,322 --> 00:53:26,827 I mean, your emotions are too raw to even come to a grave and visit anybody. 699 00:53:26,993 --> 00:53:28,578 So the last couple of weeks, I mean, she was-- 700 00:53:28,745 --> 00:53:33,041 even though she passed away on the 13th, she wasn't buried until the 25th. 701 00:53:37,421 --> 00:53:41,050 Authorities say Bland had drugs in her system 702 00:53:41,217 --> 00:53:42,927 at the time of her death. 703 00:53:43,094 --> 00:53:47,307 There have been some instances or claims 704 00:53:47,473 --> 00:53:51,269 about a substantial amount of marijuana found in her system. 705 00:53:51,436 --> 00:53:53,688 I can tell you that there has been 706 00:53:53,855 --> 00:53:57,526 a confirmation of those results. 707 00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:00,446 One thing was pretty certain was 708 00:54:00,612 --> 00:54:05,493 that she had a substantial amount of marijuana in her body. 709 00:54:05,659 --> 00:54:09,413 To me it was interesting fact, because it plays on her psyche, 710 00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,542 it plays onto why she may have been suicidal 711 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:14,502 and why nobody knew about it. 712 00:54:14,669 --> 00:54:19,132 What they've tried to suggest, by marijuana, 713 00:54:19,299 --> 00:54:22,761 is a crock, is a crock of manure. 714 00:54:22,928 --> 00:54:28,058 And it was a direct attack on her character. 715 00:54:30,561 --> 00:54:33,272 Sandra Bland was very combative. 716 00:54:33,439 --> 00:54:37,318 -What does that mean? -It was, um... 717 00:54:37,944 --> 00:54:40,196 It was not a model traffic stop, 718 00:54:40,363 --> 00:54:46,620 or--and it was not a model person that was stopped on a traffic stop. 719 00:54:50,415 --> 00:54:55,170 We went to the auto shop, where the car was. 720 00:54:55,337 --> 00:54:58,758 This is the purse that she had in the car. 721 00:54:58,924 --> 00:55:04,138 We also found the cigarette that she was asked to put out. 722 00:55:04,305 --> 00:55:05,765 And she put it out. 723 00:55:05,932 --> 00:55:09,102 The area where you put out a cigarette, 724 00:55:09,269 --> 00:55:12,522 it was sticking, standing straight up. 725 00:55:12,689 --> 00:55:16,526 So even though she said, "I don't have to put it out," she put it out. 726 00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:21,949 And even in spite of that, she was still made to get out of the car. 727 00:55:26,996 --> 00:55:30,625 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, 728 00:55:30,792 --> 00:55:35,839 and those who lose it, will eat its fruit." 729 00:55:36,381 --> 00:55:39,801 Man, that is a word. 730 00:55:39,968 --> 00:55:41,344 Hmm. 731 00:55:43,931 --> 00:55:45,933 How did Sandy die? 732 00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:49,228 Well, now we're trying to say, "Oh! 733 00:55:49,395 --> 00:55:50,771 "Let's not look at what really happened. 734 00:55:50,938 --> 00:55:55,943 Let's talk about this marijuana that was in her system." 735 00:55:56,110 --> 00:56:03,159 And so now she changes from the poor young lady who passed in a jail cell 736 00:56:03,326 --> 00:56:08,415 to "Oh, she was crazy. She had a mental illness." 737 00:56:08,582 --> 00:56:12,586 You can throw all of the... insults, 738 00:56:12,753 --> 00:56:14,630 you can throw all of what you want to throw, 739 00:56:14,797 --> 00:56:18,467 I'm still going to stand until everything is uncovered. 740 00:56:18,634 --> 00:56:21,470 Bland's autopsy has been completed... 741 00:56:32,607 --> 00:56:36,486 I'm going to have the press conference tomorrow morning at nine. 742 00:56:36,653 --> 00:56:39,156 I mean, we're going to get up there and we're going say, 743 00:56:39,323 --> 00:56:42,242 "We've made the decision at this time, necessary for us to file suit." 744 00:56:42,409 --> 00:56:45,996 "Why now? The reason we're suing now is, they're making us file. 745 00:56:46,163 --> 00:56:50,585 We've asked for the same information that the media's released. Right? 746 00:56:50,752 --> 00:56:55,924 They're giving it piecemeal to the media in a way that helps them. 747 00:56:56,091 --> 00:56:57,926 We're forced to litigate this 748 00:56:58,093 --> 00:57:00,428 because we have an in-custody death that's unexplained. 749 00:57:00,595 --> 00:57:03,724 We're not getting information. We need to know the true time of death. 750 00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:07,895 Was it on the 13th? Was it the 12th? Was the rigor mortis set in? 751 00:57:08,062 --> 00:57:09,480 All of those things are unknown. 752 00:57:10,064 --> 00:57:12,358 The doctor that did our independent autopsy 753 00:57:12,525 --> 00:57:16,529 does not have the gastric content, 754 00:57:16,696 --> 00:57:18,114 because that's still in their possession. 755 00:57:18,281 --> 00:57:20,408 She doesn't have the ligature, that's still in their possession. 756 00:57:20,575 --> 00:57:23,078 And then try to spin it back to the arrest. 757 00:57:23,244 --> 00:57:24,746 -What do you think? -Police officers know 758 00:57:24,913 --> 00:57:28,291 where the video is. So at the point where she's not in the video, 759 00:57:28,458 --> 00:57:30,252 the police officer did something else to her. 760 00:57:30,419 --> 00:57:32,671 Obviously, she wouldn't just say, "You're breaking my wrist..." 761 00:57:32,838 --> 00:57:35,507 -Correct, correct. -...outside the scope of the camera. 762 00:57:35,674 --> 00:57:37,760 -Okay, they know exactly where it is. -Mm-hmm 763 00:57:37,927 --> 00:57:40,137 So that's kind of how we frame it. 764 00:57:40,304 --> 00:57:43,808 That they're trained to go outside of the view of the camera. 765 00:57:43,975 --> 00:57:45,351 -Yeah. -Mm-hmm. 766 00:57:45,518 --> 00:57:47,729 Okay. Rangers are our friends. 767 00:57:47,896 --> 00:57:53,401 They are really good at coming in and taking care of issues like this. 768 00:57:53,568 --> 00:57:57,072 I don't think that there's ever been an issue like this. 769 00:57:57,239 --> 00:57:58,991 When I sent my family down here, 770 00:57:59,158 --> 00:58:02,411 they were supposed to be coming back with Sandy's items. 771 00:58:02,578 --> 00:58:04,997 They were supposed to-- we were told we could get her phone, 772 00:58:05,164 --> 00:58:06,916 we were told we could get all of that. 773 00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:10,628 And when they got here, that totally flipped around. 774 00:58:10,795 --> 00:58:13,631 And so, now... 775 00:58:13,798 --> 00:58:16,718 we gotta do what we have to do. 776 00:58:17,552 --> 00:58:22,391 The family of Sandra Bland will be filing suit on August 4, 2015, 777 00:58:22,557 --> 00:58:28,605 uh, at the federal courthouse, Houston. 778 00:58:35,363 --> 00:58:36,989 -Have a nice day. -Thank you. 779 00:58:37,156 --> 00:58:39,117 You know that they say, don't mess with Texas? 780 00:58:39,284 --> 00:58:41,536 But we're down here to mess with Texas. 781 00:58:41,703 --> 00:58:43,955 Or they got the message. 782 00:58:59,305 --> 00:59:02,475 We sued Waller County sheriff, Brian Encinia. 783 00:59:02,642 --> 00:59:08,523 We sued both of the booking officers at Waller County. 784 00:59:08,690 --> 00:59:11,526 There's the assault and battery counts, 785 00:59:11,693 --> 00:59:13,695 there's the wrongful death count, 786 00:59:13,862 --> 00:59:15,614 there's the survival count. 787 00:59:15,781 --> 00:59:20,953 There were constitutional rights that were violated. 788 00:59:21,161 --> 00:59:26,042 People in this country have died for the opportunity to make sure 789 00:59:26,208 --> 00:59:28,127 that we have a voice at this point. 790 00:59:28,294 --> 00:59:31,964 And we're going to muster the strength to use it. 791 00:59:32,131 --> 00:59:36,344 And when you file suit, you're saying, 792 00:59:36,511 --> 00:59:38,054 this wasn't right. 793 00:59:38,221 --> 00:59:41,016 And you might be, quote, "the man," 794 00:59:41,183 --> 00:59:44,770 you might be, quote, "the system," 795 00:59:44,937 --> 00:59:48,857 but we feel like something's got to change. 796 00:59:58,451 --> 01:00:00,119 Folks, thanks very much for coming. 797 01:00:00,286 --> 01:00:05,625 We, in filing this lawsuit, are looking to hold those who are responsible 798 01:00:05,792 --> 01:00:11,256 for the stop, and Sandy's ultimate death, accountable. 799 01:00:11,423 --> 01:00:13,842 This is a homicide or a suicide? 800 01:00:14,009 --> 01:00:17,221 This family is a reasonable family. 801 01:00:17,388 --> 01:00:22,143 In the face of Sandy being the light that she was, 802 01:00:22,310 --> 01:00:25,521 it is very difficult for them to get their minds around 803 01:00:25,688 --> 01:00:27,899 the notion that she would hurt herself. 804 01:00:28,066 --> 01:00:32,946 What happened to Sandy is indicative of a larger conversation. 805 01:00:33,113 --> 01:00:37,075 How does Sandra Bland's story play into that larger narrative? 806 01:00:37,242 --> 01:00:41,163 If, ultimately, the answer to your question is, unfortunately, 807 01:00:41,330 --> 01:00:44,667 that Sandy took her own life, does that at all change? 808 01:00:44,834 --> 01:00:46,585 She should not have been there in the first place. 809 01:00:46,752 --> 01:00:48,421 The fact that she was pulled over 810 01:00:48,588 --> 01:00:51,049 for a failure to signal a lane change, okay, 811 01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:55,220 the fact that she honestly and was forthcoming and complying 812 01:00:55,386 --> 01:00:59,140 with the police officer when he asked her for her identification. 813 01:00:59,307 --> 01:01:01,226 That's what he asked her for. 814 01:01:01,393 --> 01:01:03,687 The other ask of her, and where his tone changed 815 01:01:03,854 --> 01:01:05,647 was when he asked her to put her cigarette out. 816 01:01:05,814 --> 01:01:08,943 To which she replied, "I don't have to put my cigarette out, 817 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:10,569 "I'm in my own vehicle." 818 01:01:10,736 --> 01:01:14,282 There's a seismic shift in the conversation that takes place there. 819 01:01:14,448 --> 01:01:18,536 It's unfortunate, and I think that the key word to remember here 820 01:01:18,703 --> 01:01:21,873 is the inability to de-escalate the situation. 821 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,376 The fact that the situation escalated in such a way 822 01:01:24,542 --> 01:01:29,715 that we have a young lady who was merely on her way to get groceries, 823 01:01:29,881 --> 01:01:33,093 on her way to get groceries to stock her refrigerator, 824 01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:36,764 on a Friday afternoon, she ends up jailed, 825 01:01:36,931 --> 01:01:39,225 she ends up dying in police custody. 826 01:01:39,392 --> 01:01:42,770 We are three weeks out from Sandra's death. 827 01:01:42,937 --> 01:01:45,398 We are a week out from burying her, 828 01:01:45,565 --> 01:01:48,526 and we still don't know what happened to her. 829 01:01:51,696 --> 01:01:55,534 You can't have somebody who speaks this message... 830 01:01:55,701 --> 01:01:59,455 -That's right. That's right. -...that is suicidal. 831 01:01:59,621 --> 01:02:01,123 -No way. -No way. 832 01:02:01,290 --> 01:02:02,666 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 833 01:02:02,833 --> 01:02:04,668 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 834 01:02:04,835 --> 01:02:06,545 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 835 01:02:06,712 --> 01:02:08,089 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 836 01:02:08,256 --> 01:02:10,800 The local sheriff, shedding new light on their statement 837 01:02:10,967 --> 01:02:12,927 that Sandra Bland committed suicide. 838 01:02:13,094 --> 01:02:15,889 Releasing this intake form from the day Bland was jailed, 839 01:02:18,141 --> 01:02:20,435 She attempted suicide within the last year. 840 01:02:20,602 --> 01:02:25,065 Are you thinking about killing yourself today? 841 01:02:25,232 --> 01:02:27,860 Sandra answering no. 842 01:02:31,864 --> 01:02:35,618 I can understand where she was probably scared. 843 01:02:35,785 --> 01:02:39,706 She was likely going to lose her job at her alma mater, 844 01:02:39,872 --> 01:02:41,249 that she had just gotten, 845 01:02:41,416 --> 01:02:45,295 because now, she picked up a felony. 846 01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:52,970 She had lost a baby 14 months prior. 847 01:02:56,974 --> 01:03:01,771 "I'm in a new location, far away from my family." 848 01:03:01,938 --> 01:03:04,315 They knew what her bond was. 849 01:03:04,482 --> 01:03:07,277 She wasn't being bonded out. 850 01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:19,581 She's sitting there thinking about, what am I going to do. 851 01:03:21,792 --> 01:03:24,295 She come in here Friday afternoon, 852 01:03:24,462 --> 01:03:27,089 as an aggravated, upset individual 853 01:03:27,256 --> 01:03:30,635 that probably any of us would have been. 854 01:03:34,430 --> 01:03:36,391 You got a concrete floor, 855 01:03:36,558 --> 01:03:41,396 concrete walls, and a solid iron door. 856 01:03:43,106 --> 01:03:49,822 Your physical body with a high level of THC is working. 857 01:03:50,155 --> 01:03:53,993 And by Monday morning, your world has-- 858 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,830 in your mind, your world has ended. 859 01:04:01,584 --> 01:04:03,878 Suicide is extremely tough. 860 01:04:04,045 --> 01:04:06,756 I can't imagine what her family has gone through. 861 01:04:06,923 --> 01:04:10,218 I, too, have had close family members 862 01:04:10,385 --> 01:04:14,098 that have taken their life and it's hard to understand. 863 01:04:16,141 --> 01:04:19,812 Did she want to do that in completion, 864 01:04:19,979 --> 01:04:23,983 or did she do it by accident, 865 01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:28,571 wanting to be, maybe caught, for extra attention? 866 01:04:28,738 --> 01:04:33,827 Those things, you know, none of us would ever know. 867 01:04:36,872 --> 01:04:39,333 I was there for the miscarriage. 868 01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:41,627 I was at the hospital with her and everything, 869 01:04:41,794 --> 01:04:43,879 and she was, she was sad. 870 01:04:45,131 --> 01:04:50,553 But I was not knowledgeable of any suicide attempt. 871 01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:57,894 Sharon called. She said, "They're saying that she committed suicide." 872 01:04:58,061 --> 01:05:02,607 And that just wasn't the Sandy that I knew. 873 01:05:05,319 --> 01:05:08,238 About a month before the unfortunate incident, 874 01:05:08,405 --> 01:05:11,951 she had said, "Reverend Brazier, I think I got my purpose. 875 01:05:12,118 --> 01:05:14,245 I think I know what I want to do." 876 01:05:14,412 --> 01:05:17,915 She came out from under the table with this... 877 01:05:18,082 --> 01:05:20,043 it was a binder, 878 01:05:20,209 --> 01:05:22,629 about an inch and a half, two inches thick, 879 01:05:22,796 --> 01:05:28,260 of all this research that she had done on police brutality. 880 01:05:28,427 --> 01:05:31,972 Body cams, Trayvon Martin, you know, legislation. 881 01:05:32,139 --> 01:05:35,601 My job has become, helping wherever I can. 882 01:05:35,768 --> 01:05:39,397 Inspired by the Million Man March, there was the creation 883 01:05:39,563 --> 01:05:42,275 of the National African-American parent involvement... 884 01:05:42,441 --> 01:05:46,571 Racism is still alive today, and it still... All the odds are against us. 885 01:05:46,738 --> 01:05:51,242 In Ferguson, there were two gentlemen who decided to disrupt 886 01:05:51,409 --> 01:05:55,831 a peaceful protest and shoot into the crowd. 887 01:05:55,998 --> 01:05:57,416 Y'all, this has got to stop. 888 01:05:57,583 --> 01:06:02,087 When you see somebody who is such an advocate 889 01:06:02,254 --> 01:06:03,797 for the people coming behind her, 890 01:06:03,964 --> 01:06:08,010 it is very difficult to understand why she would decide to kill herself. 891 01:06:08,177 --> 01:06:11,055 -We have a job to do. -That just does not jive. 892 01:06:11,222 --> 01:06:14,434 You got to conquer hate with love. Where somebody is being racist... 893 01:06:14,601 --> 01:06:19,272 Let's get to work. I'm ready. What about you? 894 01:06:19,439 --> 01:06:22,109 I knew instantly that it was a cover-up. 895 01:06:22,275 --> 01:06:24,820 because I know that that wasn't in her character. 896 01:06:24,987 --> 01:06:27,322 I had talked to her, I had seen her. 897 01:06:27,489 --> 01:06:31,494 And if you know Sandra Bland, you know, she's had much harder times 898 01:06:31,660 --> 01:06:35,581 than sitting in jail for three days. 899 01:06:36,833 --> 01:06:42,881 In 2009, Sandra was charged with possession of marijuana. 900 01:06:43,047 --> 01:06:44,966 It was a personal use amount, 901 01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:48,011 but we ended up getting that case dismissed. 902 01:06:48,178 --> 01:06:51,557 In 2010, she was arrested for DWI, 903 01:06:51,723 --> 01:06:56,103 as well as possession of marijuana, again. 904 01:06:56,604 --> 01:06:58,647 Thirty-six. 905 01:06:58,814 --> 01:07:01,776 In lieu of paying the ticket because you can't afford it, 906 01:07:01,943 --> 01:07:05,154 they'll let you sit the ticket out in jail. 907 01:07:05,321 --> 01:07:07,657 They charge X amount of dollars per day, 908 01:07:07,824 --> 01:07:12,871 and when you get to whatever that amount is, they release you. 909 01:07:13,788 --> 01:07:16,667 Sandy went to Harris County and sat for 30 days. 910 01:07:16,833 --> 01:07:21,004 And then she came to Waller and sat out two weeks. 911 01:07:21,171 --> 01:07:25,217 She knew that was her responsibility and wanted to take care of it. 912 01:07:25,384 --> 01:07:30,348 There are uneducated people who are hellbent on self-extermination. 913 01:07:30,515 --> 01:07:35,061 I am not one of them. I am into building up my kings and queens. 914 01:07:35,228 --> 01:07:37,689 So for me, black lives matter. 915 01:07:37,856 --> 01:07:41,193 And then, subset, all lives matter. 916 01:07:41,777 --> 01:07:45,614 It is not okay that we have to create a hashtag, 917 01:07:45,781 --> 01:07:47,282 "If I die in police custody." 918 01:07:47,449 --> 01:07:51,120 Black lives matter! Black lives matter! 919 01:07:51,287 --> 01:07:54,999 It went from sadness to utter frustration. 920 01:07:55,166 --> 01:07:59,170 What I saw was an incredible amount of misinformation. 921 01:07:59,337 --> 01:08:01,506 And it just kept on, kind of, 922 01:08:01,673 --> 01:08:03,550 getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 923 01:08:03,717 --> 01:08:08,555 And then you started to see things that were outright lies. 924 01:08:08,722 --> 01:08:12,392 Sandra's done with her mugshots. I believe... 925 01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:16,647 that the best way to get away with murdering her 926 01:08:16,814 --> 01:08:19,942 was to stage the entire booking. 927 01:08:20,109 --> 01:08:24,322 When she is allegedly brought out of the holding cell to have her mugshot taken, 928 01:08:24,489 --> 01:08:26,866 her face is blurred out through the entire segment. 929 01:08:27,033 --> 01:08:30,578 One of the most heavily discussed pieces of evidence is Bland's mugshot. 930 01:08:30,745 --> 01:08:32,247 Many are postulating that she was already dead 931 01:08:32,414 --> 01:08:33,790 when her photo was taken by police. 932 01:08:33,957 --> 01:08:35,625 When getting a mugshot taken, 933 01:08:35,792 --> 01:08:38,921 prisoners are told not to lean on the wall behind them. 934 01:08:39,087 --> 01:08:41,173 See that? He's wearing gloves. 935 01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:44,468 All these videos that were being put out on YouTube, 936 01:08:44,635 --> 01:08:46,137 going through step-by-step 937 01:08:46,303 --> 01:08:48,806 about how she was deceased before she even got to the jail, 938 01:08:48,973 --> 01:08:52,435 You can clearly see in this image that Sandra was 939 01:08:52,602 --> 01:08:55,313 flat against the supposed wall behind her. 940 01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:57,107 Then that's when you started to see 941 01:08:57,273 --> 01:09:00,694 where we were receiving the death threats. 942 01:09:02,154 --> 01:09:07,493 People wanting to kill me, kill the sheriff. 943 01:09:07,743 --> 01:09:11,497 I completely understand why there are groups of people 944 01:09:11,664 --> 01:09:13,582 that think we killed that girl. 945 01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:18,171 Because we're in the South, maybe because we talk a little slower. 946 01:09:18,337 --> 01:09:21,299 Got this big, white, Bubba-looking guy, 947 01:09:21,466 --> 01:09:23,259 that he must be a racist, 948 01:09:23,426 --> 01:09:25,929 he must not like black people. Um... 949 01:09:26,096 --> 01:09:30,475 He can't be trusted to get justice for Sandy. 950 01:09:32,144 --> 01:09:36,732 Now this is a perfect storm for the country 951 01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:41,153 to be divided and angry. 952 01:09:49,913 --> 01:09:52,916 -Back up! Back up! -We've still got some people inside! 953 01:09:53,083 --> 01:09:56,336 Let them out! Let them out! 954 01:09:56,503 --> 01:09:59,089 -Open the door! -Let them out! Let them out! 955 01:09:59,256 --> 01:10:01,467 Let them out! Let them out! 956 01:10:01,633 --> 01:10:03,010 Let them out! 957 01:10:23,573 --> 01:10:25,242 Sandy still speaks! 958 01:10:25,409 --> 01:10:26,952 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 959 01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:28,495 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 960 01:10:28,662 --> 01:10:30,080 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 961 01:10:30,247 --> 01:10:33,542 On the other side of the wall is our 9-1-1 dispatchers 962 01:10:33,709 --> 01:10:35,378 who are receiving emergency calls, 963 01:10:35,545 --> 01:10:39,382 and then you have a group of people with bullhorns. 964 01:10:40,425 --> 01:10:43,887 Our 911 dispatchers couldn't even hear the phone calls. 965 01:10:44,929 --> 01:10:49,726 We had to get those people to vacate the front lobby. 966 01:10:54,565 --> 01:10:59,862 I spent several nights here, at the office, on my couch 967 01:11:00,029 --> 01:11:02,156 because I was not gonna leave here 968 01:11:02,323 --> 01:11:07,120 with employees, knowing they've got to be here all night. 969 01:11:07,287 --> 01:11:09,998 Sandy's still speaking out! Y'all killed her! 970 01:11:10,665 --> 01:11:14,961 Which one of you two white boys went back there and do it? We saw the video. 971 01:11:15,128 --> 01:11:17,673 -Come on. -Hey! Get off of me! 972 01:11:20,718 --> 01:11:22,136 If there's anybody left in there... 973 01:11:22,303 --> 01:11:26,599 You had the whole country looking at what was going on... 974 01:11:26,766 --> 01:11:31,938 with law enforcement under attack, with our past. 975 01:11:32,313 --> 01:11:34,774 We need to just calm the hell down, 976 01:11:34,941 --> 01:11:37,986 and we need to start looking at what happened, 977 01:11:38,153 --> 01:11:41,406 and not what we think happened. 978 01:11:41,573 --> 01:11:43,992 And more importantly... 979 01:11:45,285 --> 01:11:48,539 not what we want to have happened. 980 01:12:15,109 --> 01:12:16,777 No! 981 01:12:17,403 --> 01:12:20,031 We're doing it! 982 01:12:23,701 --> 01:12:28,039 This is from the homecoming, from fall, 2014. 983 01:12:28,206 --> 01:12:30,500 This picture is from this year. 984 01:12:30,667 --> 01:12:34,379 A month and a half before she passed away. 985 01:12:34,546 --> 01:12:38,008 This is from a family dinner this year. 986 01:12:38,175 --> 01:12:41,512 This had to have been within the last year and a half, 987 01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:45,724 because my daughter must have been one and a half, here. 988 01:12:45,891 --> 01:12:49,270 This is actually from last summer. 989 01:13:16,883 --> 01:13:21,179 Now, Cannon is heavily involved. 990 01:13:21,346 --> 01:13:24,182 Life has changed in a blink of an eye. 991 01:13:24,349 --> 01:13:28,729 One moment we went from being as a family, 992 01:13:28,895 --> 01:13:31,732 to at any given moment, Cannon was gone, 993 01:13:31,899 --> 01:13:36,111 and I didn't know when Cannon was coming back. 994 01:13:36,820 --> 01:13:40,908 Death threats left on his phone. 995 01:13:41,075 --> 01:13:45,872 Worrying for the kids' and my safety. 996 01:13:47,999 --> 01:13:53,129 Yes, uh, Mr. Lambert, I do have psychic abilities. 997 01:13:53,296 --> 01:13:57,509 There's going to be an attempt made on your life this week. 998 01:13:57,843 --> 01:14:01,722 You're delving into what's called the Code of Silence. 999 01:14:01,889 --> 01:14:05,100 And it isn't only in the Chicago Police Department. 1000 01:14:05,267 --> 01:14:09,939 It's especially true in, uh, the state of Texas. 1001 01:14:10,106 --> 01:14:14,235 They always have a problem with, uh, Afro-Americans 1002 01:14:14,402 --> 01:14:18,239 who are so-called social activists. 1003 01:14:18,531 --> 01:14:22,160 Please be very careful, Mr. Lambert. 1004 01:14:31,921 --> 01:14:37,635 The thing that really stuck out to me when I read this motion was that, 1005 01:14:37,802 --> 01:14:40,513 it says, "It is apparent now, 1006 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,808 "that Bland's inability to secure her release from jail, 1007 01:14:43,975 --> 01:14:48,146 "and her family and friends' refusal to bail her out of jail, 1008 01:14:48,313 --> 01:14:51,358 led her to commit suicide." 1009 01:14:51,525 --> 01:14:58,115 Um, you're not just blaming the victim, you're blaming the family. 1010 01:14:59,950 --> 01:15:04,372 We know that she was able to make contact with her family. 1011 01:15:04,539 --> 01:15:08,293 They knew that she needed to be bonded out. 1012 01:15:08,459 --> 01:15:10,920 And Mr. Booker, the bondsman, 1013 01:15:11,087 --> 01:15:13,798 he's got pretty much 24-hour access to the jail. 1014 01:15:13,965 --> 01:15:18,554 So, once your bond is set, he can go in there and get somebody out 1015 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,099 pretty much whenever he wants. 1016 01:15:23,142 --> 01:15:29,524 They find out, in the early evening on Saturday, 1017 01:15:29,690 --> 01:15:33,111 and by Sunday night, they're ready to get her out. 1018 01:15:33,278 --> 01:15:39,075 They called the next morning, on Monday morning, and she was gone. 1019 01:15:39,993 --> 01:15:44,915 A day and a half transpired, that's not a lot of time. It's just not. 1020 01:15:45,082 --> 01:15:49,044 I know why they're trying to make it out to be. 1021 01:15:50,588 --> 01:15:53,299 How do you file that type of proceeding and, uh, by the way, 1022 01:15:53,466 --> 01:15:57,887 you've not even deposed the people you are claiming are responsible. 1023 01:15:58,054 --> 01:16:01,683 You've never spoken to them. You don't know what's in their minds. 1024 01:16:01,850 --> 01:16:04,978 What about you, Waller County? What about you, jailers? 1025 01:16:05,145 --> 01:16:08,815 What about you not paying attention to where she was at, 1026 01:16:08,982 --> 01:16:11,360 what she was doing, how she was feeling? 1027 01:16:12,569 --> 01:16:16,407 You know, you can't orchestrate the frustration, 1028 01:16:16,574 --> 01:16:21,245 and you can't control the desire to see change. 1029 01:16:23,748 --> 01:16:26,626 This is the New York City Police Department. 1030 01:16:26,793 --> 01:16:30,422 -Please be advised... -What's her name? 1031 01:16:30,588 --> 01:16:32,132 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 1032 01:16:32,299 --> 01:16:35,677 We're in a state of war right now! This is war! 1033 01:16:35,844 --> 01:16:37,429 United we stand! 1034 01:16:37,596 --> 01:16:40,516 -We're doing this for Sandra Bland! -United we stand! 1035 01:16:40,682 --> 01:16:44,728 -We're doing this for Sandra Bland! -Sandra Bland! 1036 01:16:44,895 --> 01:16:46,313 Sandra Bland! 1037 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,024 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1038 01:16:48,190 --> 01:16:49,609 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1039 01:16:49,775 --> 01:16:51,194 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1040 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,029 -Sandra Bland! Won't you say her name! -Say her name! 1041 01:16:53,196 --> 01:16:56,699 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1042 01:16:56,866 --> 01:17:00,996 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1043 01:17:35,908 --> 01:17:39,537 The autopsy is, you know, our investigative tool. 1044 01:17:39,704 --> 01:17:43,166 So you have to be thinking forward. 1045 01:17:43,666 --> 01:17:49,714 She did have a well-formed ligature mark which had a V behind her left ear. 1046 01:17:49,881 --> 01:17:53,260 And that's the point of suspension. 1047 01:17:54,010 --> 01:17:56,847 It appears that she was not hanging 1048 01:17:57,014 --> 01:17:59,808 but perhaps seated with her head forward, 1049 01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:01,727 which is not uncommon. 1050 01:18:01,894 --> 01:18:07,066 As the blood flow decreases, then you really get sleepy. 1051 01:18:10,194 --> 01:18:13,698 Is there any indication at all that there could have been some foul play? 1052 01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:19,246 Are you in a place where you can render an opinion right now? 1053 01:18:19,412 --> 01:18:22,874 You have real injuries that could not have resulted 1054 01:18:23,041 --> 01:18:29,214 from a hanging, but from blunt force being applied to the back of the body. 1055 01:18:29,381 --> 01:18:32,426 She had scrapes on her upper right side of her back. 1056 01:18:32,593 --> 01:18:38,558 And yet there is no tissue that is labeled soft tissue from the back. 1057 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,439 Questions are still there. 1058 01:18:44,606 --> 01:18:50,821 I have to go through everything before I render an an opinion. 1059 01:18:52,865 --> 01:18:55,909 The Waller County grand jury, as of about 3:30 today, 1060 01:18:56,076 --> 01:19:02,166 has issued an indictment against State Trooper Brian Encinia for perjury. 1061 01:19:02,333 --> 01:19:03,793 Is that the only charge he's facing? 1062 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,171 That's the only charge that the grand jury issued an indictment on. 1063 01:19:07,338 --> 01:19:10,425 The indictment was issued in reference to the reason 1064 01:19:10,592 --> 01:19:12,135 that he removed her from her vehicle. 1065 01:19:12,302 --> 01:19:15,430 It is a class A misdemeanor, excuse me, 1066 01:19:15,597 --> 01:19:19,142 up to a year in jail and up to a $4,000 fine. 1067 01:19:19,309 --> 01:19:21,353 I can't even... I can't even fucking feel my arm! 1068 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,898 This guy's gonna get the minimal slap on the wrist 1069 01:19:24,064 --> 01:19:30,738 for the initial lie that put my daughter behind bars. 1070 01:19:34,367 --> 01:19:41,333 Here's a guy who should have clearly been charged with assault, battery. 1071 01:19:43,585 --> 01:19:46,630 And I'm going to tell you that I can say, 1072 01:19:46,797 --> 01:19:52,970 "At least we got a perjury charge"? No. 1073 01:20:07,068 --> 01:20:09,363 My white friends, don't get upset, 1074 01:20:09,529 --> 01:20:13,200 but I'm going to call out racism wherever I see it. 1075 01:20:13,367 --> 01:20:17,329 So for you who can say, "Oh, the law doesn't see color," 1076 01:20:17,496 --> 01:20:21,542 it doesn't see color 'cause you ain't got no color in your skin. 1077 01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:27,006 You just don't know. You don't know racism because you don't live it. 1078 01:20:27,173 --> 01:20:30,176 You don't feel it. 1079 01:20:30,343 --> 01:20:34,890 What you may see as just somebody doing their job, 1080 01:20:35,056 --> 01:20:38,477 we see the undertones of that. 1081 01:20:40,062 --> 01:20:43,691 We've been trained to see them, because we live them every day. 1082 01:20:43,857 --> 01:20:45,901 Okay, I don't see anything wrong 1083 01:20:46,068 --> 01:20:50,072 with the officer's actions until we get to the point 1084 01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:52,241 where he asks her to put the cigarette out. 1085 01:20:52,408 --> 01:20:55,495 She very accurately pointed out that she didn't have to put out a cigarette. 1086 01:20:55,662 --> 01:20:58,540 This is a perfect example of exactly how vulnerable black women are 1087 01:20:58,707 --> 01:21:00,417 in public space to law enforcement. 1088 01:21:00,584 --> 01:21:02,753 -He baited her, you know he did. -She had a problem-- 1089 01:21:02,919 --> 01:21:04,713 She had a problem with being stopped, 1090 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,924 she didn't like the fact that she was being stopped, 1091 01:21:07,091 --> 01:21:09,468 her whole arrogant attitude, and that stop. 1092 01:21:09,635 --> 01:21:11,595 The officer should not have pulled her over-- 1093 01:21:11,762 --> 01:21:14,307 Hang on. Listen! I wan't everybody to listen. 1094 01:21:14,473 --> 01:21:16,100 Because I think-- Mark! Hang on, Mark! 1095 01:21:16,267 --> 01:21:18,102 Harry is calling arrogance, I'm calling dignity. 1096 01:21:18,269 --> 01:21:20,355 Black people have a right to assert their dignity in public, 1097 01:21:20,521 --> 01:21:24,401 and just because it doesn't cohere with what police want... 1098 01:21:34,953 --> 01:21:36,413 Let's just talk about why we're here a little bit. 1099 01:21:36,580 --> 01:21:39,750 Um, as you all know, Dr. Carter 1100 01:21:39,917 --> 01:21:45,173 was retained to do a private, preliminary evaluation 1101 01:21:45,339 --> 01:21:47,467 of Sandy's body, 1102 01:21:47,634 --> 01:21:50,345 and come up with some preliminary findings, at this point, 1103 01:21:50,512 --> 01:21:52,138 give you a chance to ask questions, 1104 01:21:52,305 --> 01:21:56,393 with the understanding that this is our confidential conversation, 1105 01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,022 and that what you find out here, you don't share. 1106 01:22:00,189 --> 01:22:03,150 There are certain things that we look for in forensics 1107 01:22:03,317 --> 01:22:06,654 to give us the ability to say when the death occurred. 1108 01:22:06,821 --> 01:22:10,825 And, uh, you have a short window to document those things. 1109 01:22:10,992 --> 01:22:15,497 The primary one is getting a core body temperature, which was not done. 1110 01:22:15,663 --> 01:22:17,165 And that's what's lost. 1111 01:22:17,332 --> 01:22:21,503 And so at that point, Dr. Carter, when we called you in, you can't... 1112 01:22:21,670 --> 01:22:24,798 No, I can only go back so far, because by that time, 1113 01:22:24,965 --> 01:22:28,635 refrigeration has taken place, the body has been moved. 1114 01:22:28,802 --> 01:22:31,847 The largest amount of marijuana that shows 1115 01:22:32,014 --> 01:22:37,770 is what we call THC-COOH, or carboxylated, 1116 01:22:37,937 --> 01:22:39,605 and that means it's metabolized. 1117 01:22:39,772 --> 01:22:41,900 It hangs around the body for forever. 1118 01:22:42,066 --> 01:22:45,362 It is not a whopping amount of drug. 1119 01:22:45,528 --> 01:22:47,239 It was just nonsense. 1120 01:22:47,405 --> 01:22:50,200 And so that was just completely out of bounds. 1121 01:22:50,367 --> 01:22:56,206 Um, there were no fractures, but I found evidence of deep bruising. 1122 01:22:56,373 --> 01:23:02,463 Bruising going all the way through the deep muscles on... on the back, 1123 01:23:02,630 --> 01:23:04,715 uh, down to the level of the ribs. 1124 01:23:04,882 --> 01:23:09,971 So if someone has put their knee into a back, and they're grinding, 1125 01:23:10,138 --> 01:23:16,853 that's going to actually destroy the small vessels in the muscular tissue. 1126 01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:18,522 Just let us know if you need a break, okay? 1127 01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:20,732 We want to try to make sure everybody's getting 1128 01:23:20,899 --> 01:23:25,738 the same information at the same time. If you need to step out, it's okay. 1129 01:23:27,740 --> 01:23:29,534 Go ahead, Shavon. You have a question? 1130 01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:32,578 With that kind of scarring going to the ribs, 1131 01:23:32,745 --> 01:23:36,040 would it be complicated for her to breathe, necessarily? 1132 01:23:36,207 --> 01:23:40,462 It would have been painful. She would have been in pain. 1133 01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:43,131 I mean, I've had that type of pain, and so, I... 1134 01:23:43,298 --> 01:23:46,009 I'm just trying to, you know, process everything. 1135 01:23:46,176 --> 01:23:48,721 It's not really adding up to me. 1136 01:23:48,887 --> 01:23:52,933 I wanted to rule out foul play occurring, 1137 01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:55,311 consistent with, with hands placed on. 1138 01:23:55,478 --> 01:23:57,897 I did examine the hyoid bone, it was not fractured. 1139 01:23:58,064 --> 01:24:01,651 We generally see that when we have homicidal strangulation, 1140 01:24:01,818 --> 01:24:05,488 where someone has their hands around the neck. That was not present here. 1141 01:24:05,655 --> 01:24:08,492 Correct me if I'm wrong, with homicidal death, 1142 01:24:08,658 --> 01:24:11,119 you see things like defensive wounds, 1143 01:24:11,286 --> 01:24:14,206 you see things like impressions in the skin... 1144 01:24:14,373 --> 01:24:18,502 You didn't find any of those physical findings. 1145 01:24:18,669 --> 01:24:21,589 So we have these open questions, still. 1146 01:24:22,214 --> 01:24:24,509 Will you be able to dust for fingerprints, 1147 01:24:24,675 --> 01:24:26,135 or have we missed that window? 1148 01:24:26,302 --> 01:24:29,681 That should have been done, but we don't know that they did. 1149 01:24:29,848 --> 01:24:32,642 We asked that question and I was told that they hadn't done that. 1150 01:24:32,809 --> 01:24:39,733 There is a lot of significant and vital information that is missing. 1151 01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:42,111 The bruising on her back and on her legs, 1152 01:24:42,277 --> 01:24:46,115 I mean, yeah, he was on her back for a significant amount of time 1153 01:24:46,282 --> 01:24:47,950 when she was arrested, but I mean, 1154 01:24:48,117 --> 01:24:50,620 I don't know. It's just, it could have happened while she was sleeping. 1155 01:24:50,787 --> 01:24:54,207 It could have happened while she was laying down her, I mean, I just... 1156 01:24:54,374 --> 01:24:56,835 -Sure. -There's a lot of things 1157 01:24:57,001 --> 01:25:00,171 that are just... that just does not add up. 1158 01:25:00,338 --> 01:25:03,342 As lawyers looking at this, we have to approach, 1159 01:25:03,508 --> 01:25:09,848 um, all possibilities and probabilities. 1160 01:25:10,015 --> 01:25:14,020 My question is what led to this point. 1161 01:25:14,186 --> 01:25:18,107 I have ruled out a homicidal hanging. 1162 01:25:18,274 --> 01:25:20,485 It's not suggestive of that at all. 1163 01:25:20,652 --> 01:25:22,028 But I think this is something-- 1164 01:25:22,195 --> 01:25:25,824 You're supposed to be face-to-face once an hour, 1165 01:25:25,991 --> 01:25:29,161 not looking through a window and guessing. 1166 01:25:29,327 --> 01:25:31,705 This young woman is scared and frightened 1167 01:25:31,872 --> 01:25:36,168 and someone is having emotional pain, physical pain, 1168 01:25:36,335 --> 01:25:40,673 isolated, then you have some things that should be considered 1169 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,258 as being driven to. 1170 01:25:42,425 --> 01:25:46,346 You know, we know that someone's spirit can be broken, 1171 01:25:46,512 --> 01:25:49,140 even in a short period of time. 1172 01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:51,935 So sorry for your loss. 1173 01:25:52,102 --> 01:25:54,855 -Thank you. -Thank you. 1174 01:26:28,349 --> 01:26:32,102 The grand jury was released from the courtroom just a few minutes ago. 1175 01:26:32,269 --> 01:26:33,938 They just came out. They are done. 1176 01:26:34,105 --> 01:26:37,358 Everyone was cleared of wrongdoing at the Waller County Jail 1177 01:26:37,525 --> 01:26:40,778 where Bland died in custody. Her death was ruled a suicide, 1178 01:26:40,945 --> 01:26:45,325 -her protesters don't believe it. -They have... 1179 01:26:45,492 --> 01:26:48,870 And we just need to let the court system work. 1180 01:26:50,747 --> 01:26:55,377 I'm sitting there and I'm going, "Wow. Really?" 1181 01:26:55,544 --> 01:26:57,671 Because I'm just mad because my daughter is gone. 1182 01:26:57,838 --> 01:27:04,971 It made me want to get up, even more, because the truth has got to come out. 1183 01:27:07,265 --> 01:27:11,436 To be a strong African-American woman... 1184 01:27:11,603 --> 01:27:17,526 I imagine they were just so irritated with her knowledge and her education. 1185 01:27:20,946 --> 01:27:26,243 And just... they got... they got pissed. 1186 01:27:26,827 --> 01:27:31,707 The jail has a policy that if you bring an inmate in 1187 01:27:31,874 --> 01:27:34,919 and you deem them to be a threat or aggressive or what have you, 1188 01:27:35,086 --> 01:27:38,590 you isolate them initially and then you reevaluate them within a 24-hour period. 1189 01:27:38,757 --> 01:27:42,844 We know that that didn't happen for Sandy because she was there 1190 01:27:43,011 --> 01:27:46,223 by herself for three days. 1191 01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:50,185 She's not combative, she's not aggressive. 1192 01:27:51,437 --> 01:27:53,773 Why single her out? 1193 01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:09,206 I am here today because last Monday, 1194 01:28:09,373 --> 01:28:14,837 I read that the grand jury refused to indict anyone 1195 01:28:15,003 --> 01:28:18,340 connected to the death of Sandra Bland. 1196 01:28:18,507 --> 01:28:22,762 I am here today because justice was not served. 1197 01:28:22,929 --> 01:28:25,306 I'm here today to grieve the loss 1198 01:28:25,473 --> 01:28:31,980 of not just one black life, but several, whose lives were cut short 1199 01:28:32,147 --> 01:28:33,523 because of injustice. 1200 01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:37,903 I'm here to remember Freddie Gray, to grieve Tamir Rice, 1201 01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:42,366 Karin Smith, Michael Brown, Roshad McIntosh, 1202 01:28:42,533 --> 01:28:46,579 Tanisha Anderson, and many others. 1203 01:28:58,258 --> 01:29:00,343 As a white woman living in America, 1204 01:29:00,510 --> 01:29:06,975 I knew that what happened to Sandra would not happen to me. 1205 01:29:07,392 --> 01:29:09,937 I would not be threatened with a Taser. 1206 01:29:10,104 --> 01:29:14,275 I would not be taken into custody. 1207 01:29:14,984 --> 01:29:17,236 Regardless of if she had a cigarette, 1208 01:29:17,403 --> 01:29:19,489 regardless of whether she cursed, 1209 01:29:19,656 --> 01:29:22,826 I believe Office Encinia would not have pulled 1210 01:29:22,992 --> 01:29:27,622 Sandra Bland from her car if she looked like me. 1211 01:29:28,623 --> 01:29:33,295 Therefore, racism killed Sandra Bland. 1212 01:29:39,718 --> 01:29:42,680 The reason Sandy was taken to jail 1213 01:29:42,847 --> 01:29:47,769 was Brian Encinia's allegations that she assaulted him. 1214 01:29:47,936 --> 01:29:52,565 That's how Sandra was placed in solitary confinement. 1215 01:29:52,732 --> 01:29:56,737 It's because she was the only woman in the jail at that time, 1216 01:29:56,903 --> 01:30:00,491 that came under that classification that put her there. 1217 01:30:00,657 --> 01:30:04,703 And the reason there's no photograph of Sandy hanging in the jail 1218 01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:08,291 is because when the jail found her hanging, the first thing they did 1219 01:30:08,457 --> 01:30:11,586 was get her down and try to bring her back to life. 1220 01:30:11,753 --> 01:30:13,379 In that situation, 1221 01:30:13,546 --> 01:30:16,925 it would be a pretty cruel and callous thing for a person to do to, 1222 01:30:17,092 --> 01:30:19,344 "Let's take a photo of the person hanging, 1223 01:30:19,511 --> 01:30:23,557 and then let's try to see if we can save them." 1224 01:30:24,516 --> 01:30:26,018 Larry and I looked at this, 1225 01:30:26,185 --> 01:30:29,688 and we went back and forth trying to figure out 1226 01:30:29,855 --> 01:30:31,649 if there's something that we're missing, 1227 01:30:31,816 --> 01:30:35,027 and we just can't see that we're missing anything. 1228 01:30:35,194 --> 01:30:39,282 So these are the hourly observation logs from Waller County, 1229 01:30:39,449 --> 01:30:43,203 and this is on the 13th of July, the day that she was found. 1230 01:30:43,369 --> 01:30:46,539 That's the sequence that the paperwork's coming in at. 1231 01:30:46,706 --> 01:30:53,547 So seven o'clock in the morning, at 7:05 they're representing her to be there. 1232 01:30:53,714 --> 01:30:57,092 And then 8:01, 8:54. 1233 01:30:57,259 --> 01:31:00,971 Now remember, they're checking on her, right? 1234 01:31:01,138 --> 01:31:02,974 And she's found at 8:00-- 1235 01:31:03,140 --> 01:31:07,687 Well, she's purportedly found at 8:54. So that's when they find her. 1236 01:31:07,854 --> 01:31:11,274 Then we see these other logs at 9:47. 1237 01:31:11,441 --> 01:31:13,443 And then there's a blank. And then at 11:13, 1238 01:31:13,610 --> 01:31:16,697 and then there's a series of blanks, all following. 1239 01:31:16,863 --> 01:31:19,241 It doesn't make any sense to me. 1240 01:31:19,408 --> 01:31:25,247 The jail logs were filled out in a way that... 1241 01:31:26,499 --> 01:31:29,544 should not have been filled out. 1242 01:31:29,710 --> 01:31:32,255 They were turned in... 1243 01:31:32,547 --> 01:31:36,134 with false information. 1244 01:31:37,427 --> 01:31:44,184 What that jailer was doing was pre-filling out the form. 1245 01:31:44,351 --> 01:31:49,565 Did he falsify? No. Not in his mind. 1246 01:31:50,274 --> 01:31:52,568 So, the truth is, 1247 01:31:52,735 --> 01:31:56,322 he, the person that signed that jail log, 1248 01:31:56,489 --> 01:31:58,074 did not see Sandy. 1249 01:31:58,241 --> 01:32:00,201 They did not check on her that hour. 1250 01:32:00,368 --> 01:32:01,828 That is a false record. 1251 01:32:01,995 --> 01:32:05,749 Was it made intentionally, or knowingly, 1252 01:32:05,915 --> 01:32:08,043 or with evil intent? 1253 01:32:08,210 --> 01:32:10,629 According to what he says, no. 1254 01:32:17,052 --> 01:32:19,305 Sandy was bold, 1255 01:32:19,472 --> 01:32:22,975 and knew exactly what was right and what was wrong. 1256 01:32:23,142 --> 01:32:27,647 I don't believe Sandy shut her mouth when she got to the that jail. 1257 01:32:27,814 --> 01:32:29,899 I believe she kept talking, I believe 1258 01:32:30,066 --> 01:32:31,693 she let them know, I'll see you guys in court. 1259 01:32:31,860 --> 01:32:36,114 I believe she did all of it. And I believe they silenced her. 1260 01:32:36,281 --> 01:32:38,200 So no. It's not settled. 1261 01:32:38,367 --> 01:32:43,080 And no, I don't believe she committed suicide. Still. 1262 01:32:52,048 --> 01:32:55,468 When we start talking about how different this case is, 1263 01:32:55,635 --> 01:32:58,304 and if it's different, I think we approach it differently. 1264 01:32:58,471 --> 01:32:59,889 You know, Freddie Gray was a settlement. 1265 01:33:00,056 --> 01:33:01,516 You know, Garner was a settlement. 1266 01:33:01,683 --> 01:33:04,603 Tamir Rice was a settlement. DuBois was a settlement. 1267 01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:09,650 Everything's been settling for at least 5 million to 10 million dollars. 1268 01:33:09,817 --> 01:33:12,611 They're going to argue that those were homicides 1269 01:33:12,778 --> 01:33:15,740 that were caught in video as opposed to a suicide, 1270 01:33:15,907 --> 01:33:18,951 which we can't prove to the contrary. 1271 01:33:19,118 --> 01:33:24,499 The only thing that you can go to verdict on is a suicide. 1272 01:33:24,666 --> 01:33:31,006 And I started thinking about what it would mean if we tried the case. 1273 01:33:31,173 --> 01:33:34,051 Well, Geneva didn't believe that this was a suicide, 1274 01:33:34,218 --> 01:33:36,553 and doesn't believe it right now. 1275 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,181 But I watched over 130 hours worth of video, 1276 01:33:39,348 --> 01:33:45,897 and you don't see anybody go into her cell, or come out of her cell. 1277 01:33:48,608 --> 01:33:53,697 Even though we know that this was extremely, extremely mysterious 1278 01:33:53,864 --> 01:33:57,784 in terms of the circumstances surrounding this case. 1279 01:33:59,328 --> 01:34:01,872 She was hung from a trash bag. 1280 01:34:04,667 --> 01:34:07,420 Well, the problem with that trash bag is, 1281 01:34:07,586 --> 01:34:09,964 is that it didn't have her fingerprints on it. 1282 01:34:10,131 --> 01:34:12,925 In fact, it didn't have anybody's fingerprints on it. 1283 01:34:13,092 --> 01:34:16,805 In fact, it didn't even have her DNA on it. 1284 01:34:18,264 --> 01:34:20,350 We know there's a bunch of evidence that's out there 1285 01:34:20,517 --> 01:34:24,646 that we'll never have any ability to grab or touch. 1286 01:34:24,813 --> 01:34:26,773 It's lost. 1287 01:34:27,274 --> 01:34:31,529 But ultimately, I don't look at it from the standpoint of whether or not 1288 01:34:31,695 --> 01:34:34,448 it was a suicide or whether or not it was a murder. 1289 01:34:34,615 --> 01:34:36,242 It was an in-custody death. 1290 01:34:36,409 --> 01:34:39,203 Sandy should be here, period. 1291 01:34:42,290 --> 01:34:49,381 There have been 816 deaths, in custody since Sandy's death. One year. 1292 01:34:49,548 --> 01:34:51,633 What if we say to them that we are looking 1293 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,595 to see cameras installed throughout the jail? 1294 01:34:54,762 --> 01:34:56,722 Your Waller County report says 1295 01:34:56,889 --> 01:34:59,433 what it's going to cost you to do the changes. 1296 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,144 It's roughly 20 million, in your facility. 1297 01:35:02,311 --> 01:35:04,105 You know what, Mother Reed-Veal... 1298 01:35:04,272 --> 01:35:07,775 There's no amount of money that you could put on your child. 1299 01:35:07,942 --> 01:35:11,905 And so at some point you have to not torture yourself and say, 1300 01:35:12,072 --> 01:35:16,284 "What happened?" So I decided I'm going to go from what happened, 1301 01:35:16,451 --> 01:35:19,580 to what happens now. 1302 01:35:22,291 --> 01:35:26,295 It was the most unnerving thing you ever want to see. 1303 01:35:26,462 --> 01:35:30,341 Going back and forth, back and forth. 1304 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,511 Mediator coming into the room, leaving back out. 1305 01:35:33,678 --> 01:35:36,723 "No, we're not going for that. Yes, no, yes, no." 1306 01:35:36,890 --> 01:35:38,892 Eight hours. 1307 01:35:52,448 --> 01:35:57,620 I'm okay. The world will never forget Sandra Bland. 1308 01:36:00,581 --> 01:36:03,877 Best... family... in the world. 1309 01:36:04,085 --> 01:36:07,422 And there's going to be changes that come from this, 1310 01:36:07,589 --> 01:36:11,093 long-standing changes that come from this. 1311 01:36:22,355 --> 01:36:26,025 It's time to walk your talk now. 1312 01:36:26,317 --> 01:36:30,029 Young people, don't let Sandy's death be in vain. 1313 01:36:30,196 --> 01:36:34,284 I am looking at all of you and you are here not by coincidence. 1314 01:36:34,451 --> 01:36:37,871 The baby said before she left here she was going to go international. 1315 01:36:38,038 --> 01:36:39,665 She was going to make history. 1316 01:36:39,832 --> 01:36:43,711 So now you have Sandy Bland Parkway. Look it up on Google. 1317 01:36:43,877 --> 01:36:47,631 And it's going to take a whole lot more of us standing up and saying 1318 01:36:47,798 --> 01:36:49,759 "We are not buying it," 1319 01:36:49,926 --> 01:36:52,720 in order for this to stop. 1320 01:36:52,887 --> 01:36:55,473 It's tough to hear that from a mother, 1321 01:36:56,141 --> 01:36:57,976 which makes me fight even harder 1322 01:36:58,143 --> 01:37:02,481 to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 1323 01:37:02,647 --> 01:37:08,278 Even when the truth is against the organization... 1324 01:37:09,613 --> 01:37:11,240 that you served. 1325 01:37:11,407 --> 01:37:16,245 Police officers around the country, you need to hear my voice. 1326 01:37:16,412 --> 01:37:18,956 Tell the freakin' truth. 1327 01:37:39,854 --> 01:37:44,275 Do I think the legal operation of this jail 1328 01:37:44,442 --> 01:37:47,320 have anything to do with her death? 1329 01:37:47,487 --> 01:37:49,948 No. No, I don't. 1330 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,242 The moral responsibility 1331 01:37:52,409 --> 01:37:55,954 at eight o'clock, if you'd have gone back there in person 1332 01:37:56,121 --> 01:38:02,169 maybe looked at her eyes and seen, "Hey, something's going on with her, 1333 01:38:02,336 --> 01:38:06,632 "a little different. "She's stressing," uh... 1334 01:38:06,799 --> 01:38:10,803 moral responsibility-wise, absolutely. 1335 01:38:12,054 --> 01:38:16,518 It's not a black versus white issue. 1336 01:38:16,684 --> 01:38:22,190 No, we didn't go back there and tie a bag around her neck. 1337 01:38:22,357 --> 01:38:26,945 But it is our responsibility to take care of her. 1338 01:38:27,112 --> 01:38:33,911 And that, with her and her family, we let her down. 1339 01:38:35,538 --> 01:38:39,876 Could there have been something we could have done to prevent it? 1340 01:38:40,043 --> 01:38:42,462 I'll always think that. 1341 01:38:53,932 --> 01:38:58,938 I'm never going to make everybody in Chicago believe what I'm saying. 1342 01:38:59,104 --> 01:39:01,023 Or New York City. 1343 01:39:01,190 --> 01:39:05,069 But this is the little corner of the earth where God's put me. 1344 01:39:05,236 --> 01:39:10,784 And if I, as the district attorney, don't step back and say, 1345 01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:13,328 "Hey, Elton, what do you need to do differently, 1346 01:39:13,495 --> 01:39:17,374 do you have any racist tendencies in you..." 1347 01:39:17,541 --> 01:39:21,170 then I can't help anybody else. 1348 01:39:24,465 --> 01:39:26,217 Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 1349 01:39:27,259 --> 01:39:31,305 You know, racism is still only alive because people keep perpetuating it. 1350 01:39:31,472 --> 01:39:35,977 White and black. Enough people don't have friends of a different race. 1351 01:39:36,144 --> 01:39:38,730 Black people included. We don't have enough white friends, 1352 01:39:38,897 --> 01:39:41,566 they don't have enough black friends. 1353 01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:50,659 For those who don't agree with the things that I'm saying, I apologize. 1354 01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:56,582 But I'm not going to stop. This is about educating you. 1355 01:39:57,750 --> 01:40:02,380 That is my goal. We need to educate each other. 1356 01:40:02,547 --> 01:40:05,842 That's the only way this is going to work. 1357 01:40:11,348 --> 01:40:18,355 We love you... and your sister wants to play a song for you. 1358 01:40:19,273 --> 01:40:22,234 I see you, girl. 1359 01:40:38,168 --> 01:40:41,422 So my peeps, I love you. I'm headed into work. 1360 01:40:41,588 --> 01:40:45,092 Hoping you all have the same great, prosperous days. 1361 01:40:45,259 --> 01:40:51,015 Go out there, be great. Do something that you love. "Sandy Speaks."116857

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