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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:16,976 --> 00:00:20,651 [CARS PASSING BY] 4 00:00:28,404 --> 00:00:31,658 [MAN] It... It's a bit of a walk, you know, 5 00:00:31,824 --> 00:00:35,670 from, you know, back by the drummer over here. 6 00:00:35,828 --> 00:00:39,048 That walk to the front is... is complicated. 7 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:41,959 [ELEVATOR RATTLES] 8 00:00:45,087 --> 00:00:47,010 [SPRINGSTEEN] Singing background remains 9 00:00:47,173 --> 00:00:50,302 a somewhat unheralded position, you know. 10 00:00:50,885 --> 00:00:53,684 - So people make that leap. - [PIANO PLAYING] 11 00:00:53,846 --> 00:00:57,646 [SINGERS HARMONIZING] 12 00:01:00,186 --> 00:01:02,484 [WOMAN] So, what you guys do on that part? 13 00:01:02,646 --> 00:01:07,152 ♪ I'll help you carry on 14 00:01:07,318 --> 00:01:10,117 [VOCALIZING] 15 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:13,123 It's almost more of a mental leap than... 16 00:01:13,282 --> 00:01:15,159 than just the physical act of singing. 17 00:01:15,326 --> 00:01:16,953 It's a conceptual leap, 18 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:18,996 and if you can comfortably come up with it, you know, 19 00:01:19,163 --> 00:01:21,712 then you may find a spot out there. 20 00:01:21,874 --> 00:01:27,506 ♪ Carry on for... 21 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:29,631 [SPRINGSTEEN] But I know tremendous backup singers 22 00:01:29,715 --> 00:01:32,138 who just aren't comfortable in that position. 23 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:35,563 You gotta have that narcissism, you gotta have that ego. 24 00:01:35,721 --> 00:01:38,600 - [SINGING INDISTINCTLY] - [MAN] So shall we do it? 25 00:01:38,766 --> 00:01:40,814 [SPRINGSTEEN] It can be a pretty long walk. 26 00:01:40,976 --> 00:01:42,899 - One, two, three! - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 27 00:01:43,062 --> 00:01:44,109 [INHALES] 28 00:01:44,814 --> 00:01:47,658 [♪ LOU REED: "WALK ON THE WILD SIDE"] 29 00:03:01,557 --> 00:03:04,231 [WOMAN] There's a power to what it is that we do. 30 00:03:04,393 --> 00:03:09,524 No one till right now has publicly acknowledged it, 31 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:11,909 but people love to see the background singers. 32 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:17,790 I mean, when you think about Lou Reed, "Walk On The Wild Side," 33 00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:22,670 you know, that iconic song with the line that makes a lot of people uncomfortable 34 00:03:22,828 --> 00:03:27,174 because it says "colored girls." But what is he... what is he referencing 35 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:31,304 when he says, "And the colored girls say do-do-do-do-do?" 36 00:03:31,462 --> 00:03:34,432 The fact that there's a power to these women 37 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:38,891 that stand on stage and sing with these guys. 38 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:41,806 [♪ TALKING HEADS: "SLIPPERY PEOPLE"] 39 00:03:45,559 --> 00:03:49,280 Backup singers just bring so much more life to the situation. 40 00:03:50,981 --> 00:03:54,576 When a voice opens up, there comes the life. 41 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,409 That's when it's a person-to-person connection. 42 00:03:58,572 --> 00:04:02,543 ♪ What about the time you were rolling over? 43 00:04:02,701 --> 00:04:06,751 ♪ You fall on your face and you must be having fun 44 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:11,340 ♪ Backsliding How do you do? 45 00:04:11,502 --> 00:04:15,678 You don't hold on necessarily to your individual vocal persona. 46 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:17,056 ♪ God help us 47 00:04:17,216 --> 00:04:18,593 'Cause you're trying to get your persona 48 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:22,980 to blend and mesh with the other voices. That's awesome. 49 00:04:23,138 --> 00:04:25,266 - ♪ What's the matter with him? - ♪ He's all right 50 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:27,552 - ♪ How do you know? - ♪ The Lord won't mind 51 00:04:27,643 --> 00:04:29,816 - ♪ Don't play no games - ♪ He's all right 52 00:04:29,979 --> 00:04:31,822 ♪ Love from the bottom to the top 53 00:04:31,981 --> 00:04:34,200 - ♪ Turn like a wheel - ♪ He's all right 54 00:04:34,358 --> 00:04:35,610 ♪ See for yourself... 55 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:39,155 [WOMAN] There's something that happens when you lock in with somebody 56 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:42,074 and all the harmonics ping, and, I mean, 57 00:04:42,241 --> 00:04:45,495 if you don't like that, what do you like? 58 00:04:45,661 --> 00:04:49,916 ♪ Cool down Stop acting crazy 59 00:04:50,082 --> 00:04:54,713 ♪ They're gonna leave and we'll be on our own 60 00:04:54,878 --> 00:04:58,303 I could... I could be different people, a chameleon, you know. 61 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:01,765 It's just like you could change up. You're never bored. 62 00:05:01,927 --> 00:05:04,476 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 63 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:11,445 I'm a part of the sisterhood. I got to earn this. 64 00:05:11,603 --> 00:05:13,480 It wasn't just a dream that I had 65 00:05:13,647 --> 00:05:17,402 I actually got to sing these songs and sing on key. 66 00:05:17,568 --> 00:05:18,740 - ♪ Like a wheel - ♪ He's all right 67 00:05:18,902 --> 00:05:21,530 - ♪ See for yourself - ♪ The Lord won't mind 68 00:05:21,697 --> 00:05:23,370 - ♪ We're gonna move - ♪ Right now 69 00:05:23,532 --> 00:05:25,455 ♪ Turn like a wheel 70 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:27,745 [MAN] As a background singer, they would like you to come in, 71 00:05:27,911 --> 00:05:32,633 make things sound great, take very little credit... 72 00:05:34,126 --> 00:05:35,503 and go home quickly. 73 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,546 ♪ It's all right 74 00:05:37,713 --> 00:05:39,932 ♪ The Lord won't mind 75 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:42,388 ♪ Right now Turn like a wheel 76 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:44,553 - ♪ Inside a wheel - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 77 00:05:49,975 --> 00:05:53,024 - [PIANO PLAYING] - [WOMAN] Thank you, Jesus. 78 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:55,613 Thank you, Father. 79 00:05:56,899 --> 00:05:59,322 ♪ I will enter His gates 80 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:02,159 ♪ With thanksgiving in my heart 81 00:06:02,321 --> 00:06:06,451 ♪ I will enter His courts with praise 82 00:06:08,619 --> 00:06:11,873 God gave us the ability to create, didn't he? 83 00:06:12,039 --> 00:06:14,007 - [CONGREGATION] Yes, he did. - OK. 84 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:16,510 Today we're gonna pin this down to music. 85 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:21,344 ♪ He has made me glad 86 00:06:21,507 --> 00:06:26,263 ♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad 87 00:06:26,428 --> 00:06:29,477 I see these kids doing this slide, I said, "Oh, child." 88 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,235 He think he got that from, uh... James Brown. 89 00:06:33,394 --> 00:06:35,362 I said, "Oh, that came from one of my pastors." 90 00:06:37,773 --> 00:06:42,529 ♪ He has made me glad 91 00:06:42,694 --> 00:06:46,995 ♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad 92 00:06:47,157 --> 00:06:49,037 - My father was a minister. - My father was a... 93 00:06:49,118 --> 00:06:50,836 - My father was a... - Pastor's daughter. 94 00:06:50,994 --> 00:06:52,874 - Isn't that cliché? - That's how I was actually 95 00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:54,964 - introduced to music. - [WOMAN] I started as a four-year-old. 96 00:06:55,124 --> 00:06:56,250 [WOMAN 2] All through grammar school. 97 00:06:56,417 --> 00:06:58,465 ♪ I will say this is the day 98 00:06:58,627 --> 00:07:02,677 You come up learning the part that your voice actually fits in. 99 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:06,936 Nobody tells you that's how singers learn how to do background. 100 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:10,098 Hallelujah, glory, glory. 101 00:07:10,264 --> 00:07:13,518 - [APPLAUSE] - Thank you, Lord. 102 00:07:13,684 --> 00:07:15,857 Thank you, Lord. 103 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:21,196 God gave me this talent and I intend to use it. 104 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:23,861 And that's what my life has really been all about, 105 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:28,328 trying to make a success of the gift that I have. 106 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:31,869 [WOMAN] Darlene Love is the one that's the cause of all of this. 107 00:07:32,202 --> 00:07:34,455 Darlene Love and Fanita James, The Blossoms. 108 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:36,715 They were the first black background singers 109 00:07:36,874 --> 00:07:39,423 - working in the studios. - [MUSIC PLAYS] 110 00:07:39,585 --> 00:07:42,634 ♪ Silver and gold Silver and gold 111 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,549 ♪ Everyone's searching for silver and gold... 112 00:07:45,716 --> 00:07:48,890 When we first got into recordings, it was totally white. 113 00:07:49,052 --> 00:07:52,932 ♪ You'll never find comfort in silver and gold... 114 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:55,851 [WOMAN] They were all white girls, and they were very tasteful. 115 00:07:56,310 --> 00:07:59,564 They could do arm movements and they could, you know, 116 00:07:59,730 --> 00:08:01,698 get in and go... go to the microphone 117 00:08:01,857 --> 00:08:04,610 and come out of the microphone, but that was about it. 118 00:08:04,776 --> 00:08:09,452 ♪ Silver and gold, everyone's searching Suppose silver and gold 119 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:13,336 [LOVE] Because it was white singers. We call them the readers. 120 00:08:13,494 --> 00:08:16,714 They couldn't do nothing without that music sitting right in their face. 121 00:08:18,957 --> 00:08:20,254 People would see us walk in. 122 00:08:20,417 --> 00:08:21,937 They wondered what we were doing there. 123 00:08:22,503 --> 00:08:24,972 They handed us our music and we took it like we was pros too, 124 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:26,928 like we would really read this. 125 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:29,559 [MAN] Then as you got more into the music, 126 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:33,897 people would want background singers that were free enough 127 00:08:34,056 --> 00:08:35,433 to put feeling in what they were singing. 128 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:37,146 Not saying that those singers back then 129 00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:39,482 didn't have feeling, but they were 130 00:08:39,645 --> 00:08:41,522 committed to what they saw on the paper. 131 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:46,159 ♪ In silver and gold ♪ 132 00:08:46,318 --> 00:08:48,320 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 133 00:08:48,487 --> 00:08:51,491 - ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro - ♪ Oh, yeah 134 00:08:51,657 --> 00:08:53,625 ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro... 135 00:08:53,784 --> 00:08:57,084 [WOMAN] The song that was coming from them was so raw. 136 00:08:57,246 --> 00:09:00,216 That's what it... it was so raw, and so real, 137 00:09:00,374 --> 00:09:03,173 that it was hard to deny it. 138 00:09:05,128 --> 00:09:07,631 ♪ Shimmy shimmy It's the dance of the day 139 00:09:07,798 --> 00:09:10,472 ♪ Shimmy shimmy It's new this day 140 00:09:10,634 --> 00:09:13,103 ♪ Shimmy shimmy's gonna help us too 141 00:09:13,262 --> 00:09:15,765 ♪ With mama and papa and you know who 142 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:18,980 ♪ Shimmy shimmy in my soul 143 00:09:19,142 --> 00:09:21,861 ♪ Shimmy shimmy We'll never grow old 144 00:09:24,147 --> 00:09:26,275 [LOVE] Now this is a surprise! 145 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:28,193 This is history. 146 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,330 None of us have sung together in 30, 40 years. 147 00:09:31,488 --> 00:09:33,286 I was 15 when I first met them. 148 00:09:33,448 --> 00:09:35,826 - Ain't that something? Fifteen. - That's not funny. 149 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:39,462 That's not funny. 150 00:09:39,621 --> 00:09:41,999 But we were really white before you got in, 151 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:44,293 - and then you added it... - We had a sweet sound. 152 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,006 She brought guts and... 153 00:09:46,169 --> 00:09:49,548 that bottom gospel thing and it made it perfect. 154 00:09:49,715 --> 00:09:52,093 - ♪ Shimmy shimmy - ♪ Oh, yeah 155 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:54,808 [WRIGHT] They made that platform theirs. 156 00:09:54,970 --> 00:09:56,938 The Blossoms made it theirs, 157 00:09:57,097 --> 00:10:00,567 and when they came in, every producer in California 158 00:10:00,726 --> 00:10:04,026 and everywhere else, that's the sound they wanted. That was from The Blossoms. 159 00:10:04,980 --> 00:10:06,903 - [AUDIENCE CHEERING] - [MUSIC CONTINUES] 160 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:11,741 All you had to do is tell them in what direction you were headed, 161 00:10:11,903 --> 00:10:13,405 and they took you there. 162 00:10:13,572 --> 00:10:15,165 [♪ BOBBY PICKETT: "MONSTER MASH"] 163 00:10:18,201 --> 00:10:21,501 - See when we had to sound white? - Yeah, uh-huh. 164 00:10:21,663 --> 00:10:24,041 [♪ FRANK SINATRA: "THAT'S LIFE"] 165 00:10:27,586 --> 00:10:29,509 [♪ BETTY EVERETT: "THE SHOOP SHOOP SONG"] 166 00:10:35,427 --> 00:10:38,556 ♪ I met him on a Monday and my heart my stood still 167 00:10:38,722 --> 00:10:41,396 ♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron Da-do-ron-ron 168 00:10:41,558 --> 00:10:44,437 [WOMAN] What was unique about The Blossoms, we could change our sound. 169 00:10:44,603 --> 00:10:48,198 [WOMAN] We worked with people from Buck Owens to James Brown. 170 00:10:48,357 --> 00:10:51,406 ♪ Yes, my heart stood still 171 00:10:51,568 --> 00:10:54,822 ♪ Yes, his name was Bill 172 00:10:54,988 --> 00:10:57,537 ♪ And when he walked me home 173 00:10:57,699 --> 00:11:02,796 ♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron Da-do-ron-ron ♪ 174 00:11:02,954 --> 00:11:07,050 [LAUGHING] That was perfect, without even rehearsing. 175 00:11:07,209 --> 00:11:10,964 [WRIGHT] The amazing thing about Darlene and Fanita and Jean 176 00:11:11,129 --> 00:11:15,384 is that they weren't afraid of anybody else that did what they did. 177 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:18,303 And if that producer asked for a particular person 178 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:19,847 that could do something, Darlene would say, 179 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:22,254 "That's not what I do, but I know a girl that can do it." 180 00:11:22,391 --> 00:11:24,672 And that's how she'll get in, and that's how Merry got in. 181 00:11:24,976 --> 00:11:28,947 - [MUSIC PLAYS ON RADIO] - [WOMAN] Can you turn off the radio? 182 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:32,317 There... 183 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:38,081 I mean, how could you not have music on, Morgan, in the Merry Clayton car? 184 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,958 - [WOMAN] I know, right? - That's just... 185 00:11:40,117 --> 00:11:41,317 That's not even logical to me. 186 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:43,291 [MAN] See, it's much better for us to add the music later. 187 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:45,171 I know it, but I'm just saying, Morgan, how could you... 188 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:48,174 How could you logically not have a diva have her music on? 189 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,882 I don't get that. 190 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:55,136 [PIANO MUSIC PLAYS] 191 00:11:55,298 --> 00:11:58,097 [MAN] Merry Clayton was always the lead background singer, 192 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:01,013 but she was always a little set apart from that group. 193 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:06,477 ♪ Well, I am a sister 194 00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:09,613 - ♪ Who can sing - [CROWD RESPONDING] 195 00:12:09,771 --> 00:12:14,322 ♪ I am a sister who can sing 196 00:12:14,484 --> 00:12:17,704 ♪ Oh, but if I die 197 00:12:17,863 --> 00:12:21,242 ♪ And my soul be lost 198 00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:26,209 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 199 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:31,543 [WRIGHT] I started going to summer school with Merry, 200 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:34,338 and she'd start singing down the street, and I'd go like, 201 00:12:34,504 --> 00:12:36,506 "This girl is amazing." 202 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:39,176 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 203 00:12:39,342 --> 00:12:41,970 ♪ Said nobody's fault 204 00:12:42,137 --> 00:12:44,640 ♪ Nobody's fault but mine 205 00:12:44,806 --> 00:12:47,480 ♪ I said that no one's fault 206 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:49,360 - ♪ If I die... - [WRIGHT] She had no, uh, 207 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:51,112 no hidden agendas about it. 208 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,273 She just, "That's what I do." 209 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,193 ♪ Oh, if I die 210 00:12:56,359 --> 00:12:59,533 ♪ And my soul be lost, yeah 211 00:12:59,696 --> 00:13:03,872 ♪ Nobody's fault 212 00:13:04,034 --> 00:13:04,714 ♪ But mine 213 00:13:10,332 --> 00:13:13,006 ♪ Nobody's fault ♪ 214 00:13:13,168 --> 00:13:15,091 [CLAYTON] Ray Charles. He was the only artist 215 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:16,973 that my father would allow us to go and see, 216 00:13:17,005 --> 00:13:19,929 and I'd stand at the end of the stage with my hand under my chin. 217 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:24,016 I'd say, "Mm-hmm, I could do this. I'm gonna be a Raelette one day." 218 00:13:24,179 --> 00:13:25,931 I willed myself to be a Raelette. 219 00:13:26,097 --> 00:13:29,146 Now here are the Raelettes to help us from this portion on. 220 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:33,155 - [♪ RAY CHARLES: "WHAT'D I SAY"] - Mm! 221 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,784 [CLAYTON] So I was sitting at home one day, 222 00:13:37,943 --> 00:13:40,617 and I got a call from Billy Preston. 223 00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:42,247 "This Bill, what are you doing?" 224 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,123 "Putting some clothes away." 225 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:47,126 "You gotta drop it and you have to come and sing for Ray." 226 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:48,582 Oh 227 00:13:52,707 --> 00:13:55,426 ♪ When you see me in misery 228 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:57,553 ♪ Come on, baby See about me now 229 00:13:57,712 --> 00:14:00,636 ♪ No, it don't matter 230 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,723 [CLAYTON] And, of course, you know, I was totally full of myself by then. 231 00:14:03,885 --> 00:14:07,185 I knew the whole spectrum of what you were supposed to do as a singer. 232 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,850 ♪ See the girl with the red dress on 233 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:11,643 ♪ She can filly dog all night long 234 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:13,687 [CLAYTON] But I didn't know anything 235 00:14:13,854 --> 00:14:15,447 about being an entertainer. 236 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,909 - ♪ Hey - ♪ Hey 237 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:22,070 - ♪ Ho - ♪ Ho 238 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:25,867 - ♪ Hey, ho - ♪ Hey, ho 239 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:28,285 ♪ Oh, it's all right 240 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:30,545 ♪ You know it's all right, baby 241 00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:32,505 [CLAYTON] He said, "Yes, you're a lead singer, 242 00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,462 but you're singing with three other ladies, Sister Merry. 243 00:14:34,624 --> 00:14:36,626 So we're gonna teach you how to sing 244 00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:39,046 - with three other people." - ♪ You know it's all right 245 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,930 ♪ It's all right 246 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:43,308 [MAN] He's the minister. The Raelettes are the choir. 247 00:14:43,466 --> 00:14:47,687 He brings that same church format to playing popular music. 248 00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:49,598 Yet he's singing about sex. 249 00:14:49,764 --> 00:14:51,607 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake that thing 250 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:54,189 - ♪ Hey, baby - ♪ Shake that thing 251 00:14:54,352 --> 00:14:57,231 [WONDER] Can you imagine "What'd I Say" that I said already, 252 00:14:57,397 --> 00:14:59,650 without kind of an answer to that? 253 00:14:59,816 --> 00:15:01,068 ♪ Mmm 254 00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:03,744 ♪ Oooh 255 00:15:05,113 --> 00:15:06,865 ♪ Uhh... uhh... 256 00:15:07,032 --> 00:15:08,158 [LAUGHS] 257 00:15:08,325 --> 00:15:10,874 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake it, baby 258 00:15:11,036 --> 00:15:13,835 - ♪ Shake that thing - ♪ Shake that thing ♪ 259 00:15:15,332 --> 00:15:18,427 He did a song called "Together Again." 260 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:21,964 Oh, Lord, I could not find the second part. 261 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:23,848 I couldn't hear it. 262 00:15:24,007 --> 00:15:26,260 I did not hit the note, he took his finger 263 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,724 and banged out my note on the piano, 264 00:15:28,887 --> 00:15:31,390 and 5,000 people were in the audience, 265 00:15:31,556 --> 00:15:35,106 five... huge show in Madison Square Garden somewhere. 266 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:38,238 Bang, bang, bang, bang. He banged out this note. 267 00:15:38,396 --> 00:15:41,570 After that, I remembered everything. 268 00:15:41,733 --> 00:15:44,486 I was not gonna be made to look like a fool. [LAUGHS] 269 00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:46,951 - ♪ Baby, let's go home - ♪ Yeah, let's go home 270 00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:49,366 - ♪ Baby, let's go home - ♪ Go home, baby 271 00:15:49,532 --> 00:15:51,500 - ♪ Baby, let's go home ♪ - Oh! 272 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:55,085 [SONG ENDS] 273 00:15:59,668 --> 00:16:02,467 [WOMAN] A lot of background singers are just background singers. 274 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:05,709 They don't wanna do all the drama that accompanies trying to be a solo artist. 275 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,222 Actually, very interesting, if you're talking about background singers, 276 00:16:08,385 --> 00:16:10,854 because Lisa made recordings as a solo artist 277 00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:14,983 and she's a brilliant entertainer. She's really funny. 278 00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:18,775 Sings her butt off. Could sing alone all day long, 279 00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:20,735 but doesn't particularly want to. 280 00:16:20,897 --> 00:16:23,776 [CELL PHONE ALARM RINGS] 281 00:16:34,285 --> 00:16:36,834 [SIGHS] Hola. 282 00:16:36,997 --> 00:16:40,547 I don't wanna go to school. [LAUGHS] 283 00:16:40,709 --> 00:16:43,679 [SINGING SCAT] 284 00:16:50,468 --> 00:16:52,721 [FISCHER] I remember when my mom took me to kindergarten. 285 00:16:52,887 --> 00:16:56,312 I told the teacher, it's like, "I wrote a song," right? 286 00:16:56,474 --> 00:16:57,771 "I wanna sing it for the class." 287 00:16:57,934 --> 00:16:59,894 She's like, "Oh, yay, good." I just wouldn't stop. 288 00:16:59,978 --> 00:17:03,903 She had to stop me. Now she's like, "That was fun." 289 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,443 [CONTINUES SINGING SCAT] 290 00:17:12,365 --> 00:17:15,460 [LAWRY] Being with Lisa is really inspiring, 291 00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:18,167 because she's a monster musician. She just doesn't really talk about it. 292 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:20,172 I mean, she's as good as it gets. 293 00:17:28,715 --> 00:17:31,594 [SCAT CONTINUES] 294 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:40,534 [MAN] Everyone knew who Lisa Fischer was. 295 00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:42,645 She was the talk of the town at the time. 296 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:50,199 It was strange for me to actually see her standing next to two other singers. 297 00:17:50,361 --> 00:17:52,113 It was weird for me. 298 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,159 She's an incredible artist that stands in front of that room, 299 00:17:55,325 --> 00:17:59,546 in front of everyone, and demands their attention in a really graceful way. 300 00:17:59,704 --> 00:18:02,423 [SCAT CONTINUES] 301 00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:07,253 I love melodies. 302 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:10,515 I'm... I'm in love with the... 303 00:18:10,673 --> 00:18:14,177 the sound vibration and... 304 00:18:14,344 --> 00:18:16,813 and what it does with other people. 305 00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:20,559 It's familiar, but it's so special 306 00:18:20,725 --> 00:18:22,648 and you're just so happy when you get there. 307 00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:26,566 And you try to stay there for as long as you can. 308 00:18:26,731 --> 00:18:30,281 [CONTINUES SCAT] 309 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:43,085 [AUSTIN] She's the empress of that world, 310 00:18:43,248 --> 00:18:45,967 and, you know, it might not look like she's ego'd out, 311 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:49,630 but it takes a lot of ego to decide you're gonna take that position. 312 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,133 'Cause there's a lot of background singers out there, and she's held... 313 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:55,643 She's held that fort down for a long time. 314 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,930 [SCAT CONTINUES] 315 00:18:58,096 --> 00:19:01,191 [FISCHER] For me, singing is about a sharing. 316 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:05,195 It's never a competition. But there's this other energy sometimes 317 00:19:05,353 --> 00:19:09,278 that I see going on that just makes me insane, you know. 318 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,569 Gee, who can I call to introduce me to so and so and such and such, 319 00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:15,416 but it just... I don't know, something about that feels slimy to me. 320 00:19:15,446 --> 00:19:16,993 I don't know why. 321 00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:23,085 [FISCHER VOCALIZING SOFTLY] 322 00:19:25,748 --> 00:19:28,342 ♪ Yeah ♪ 323 00:19:31,421 --> 00:19:32,798 [CHUCKLES] 324 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:37,681 To me, there's no more heavenly instrument than the voice. 325 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:42,979 You can be a great player and you can play things that really move people, 326 00:19:43,141 --> 00:19:46,987 but the voice is the one thing that we all are born with. 327 00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:50,115 I mean, there's so many great singers who are such a massive presence 328 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:53,527 on so many rock records, people that we don't necessarily know their names, 329 00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:56,993 but that had a huge impact. 330 00:19:57,155 --> 00:20:00,250 I remember, um, yeah, there was a Phil Spector special on. 331 00:20:00,408 --> 00:20:03,708 Um, maybe '65-ish. 332 00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:05,872 ♪ Every evening when the sun goes down 333 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:09,760 - ♪ Whoo - [SPECTOR] Hold it. Cut. 334 00:20:09,918 --> 00:20:13,263 [LASLEY] And Darlene Love and The Blossoms were doing this song 335 00:20:13,421 --> 00:20:15,719 that Phil was playing piano on. 336 00:20:15,882 --> 00:20:19,637 ♪ Every morning when the sun goes down 337 00:20:19,802 --> 00:20:23,022 - ♪ Whoo - ♪ Whoo 338 00:20:23,181 --> 00:20:27,561 ♪ I lay my head on the pillow down 339 00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:31,527 And I was like 16 maybe. It just went, like, pow! 340 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:34,317 That's what you're gonna do. 341 00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:36,452 - [MAN] Here we go. - Hey. 342 00:20:36,611 --> 00:20:38,409 - Hi, Darlene. - Robert. 343 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:41,450 How about, uh, "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)." 344 00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:45,291 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ Snow coming down 345 00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:49,128 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ I'm watching it fall 346 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:51,133 ♪ Christmas 347 00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:53,215 [LOVE] Phil Spector was the one that started 348 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:55,096 with the Wall of Sound. He wanted everybody to know 349 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:57,303 it was a Phil Spector session, 350 00:20:57,465 --> 00:20:59,684 not a Darlene Love session or a Crystals session. 351 00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:01,890 It was a Phil Spector session. 352 00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:04,351 ♪ They're ringing a song 353 00:21:04,514 --> 00:21:07,108 - ♪ Christmas - ♪ What a happy sound 354 00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:11,989 They sound so young. Well, they are. I was 18. I am now 70. 355 00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:15,533 [SPRINGSTEEN] The Spector records... 356 00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:17,615 and it's funny, 'cause though that was a sound 357 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:21,247 we tried to capture ourselves for many, many years. 358 00:21:21,406 --> 00:21:25,752 And did not, because we didn't realize it was the sound of youth, 359 00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:27,708 of very young people. 360 00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,332 And here Darlene not only had 361 00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:32,171 the incredible personality, 362 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:35,633 but she was a vocal powerhouse. She captures... 363 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:39,720 Whatever it is, she captures that particular sound, you know. 364 00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:41,850 Amazing, isn't it? 365 00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:46,356 [LAUGHS] I was talented and didn't know it. 366 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:49,108 When we went in to do "He's a Rebel" I knew it was gonna be 367 00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:51,520 for a group he had in New York. 368 00:21:51,686 --> 00:21:53,438 And I went, "This song ain't gonna do nothin' no way. 369 00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:55,151 Let's just go in, take the money." 370 00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:57,738 And it was my first lead voice. 371 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,493 [♪ "HE'S A REBEL"] 372 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,996 ♪ See the way he walks down the street 373 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:05,659 ♪ Watch the way he shuffles his feet 374 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,668 ♪ My, he holds his head up high 375 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,330 ♪ When he goes walking by 376 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,670 Darlene did a lot of ghosting for records that came out 377 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:15,194 with other people's names on them. 378 00:22:15,209 --> 00:22:18,008 ♪ Not just one of the crowd 379 00:22:19,589 --> 00:22:22,058 [LOVE] The Crystals were out on the road with Gene Pitney, 380 00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:24,969 and the record was climbing the charts, going to number one 381 00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:27,639 and they had never heard the song before. 382 00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:30,900 ♪ He's a rebel and he'll never be any good 383 00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:34,438 ♪ He's a rebel 'cause he never ever does what he should 384 00:22:34,604 --> 00:22:38,734 ♪ But just because he doesn't do what everybody else does 385 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:43,155 ♪ That's no reason why I can't give him all my love 386 00:22:43,321 --> 00:22:46,996 It's pretty debilitating to the spirit, I think, 387 00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:51,413 to sit at home and watch the song that you sang, 388 00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:55,254 and there's someone else lip-synching and no one knows that you did it. 389 00:22:55,416 --> 00:23:00,013 ♪ That's no reason why we can't share a love 390 00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,764 ♪ He is always good to me... 391 00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:04,221 [LOVE] What hurt is when people hear it on the radio 392 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:06,512 and they go, "Wow, The Crystals. That's a great song." 393 00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:10,727 And they sitting there telling me that, not knowing I did it. 394 00:23:12,975 --> 00:23:15,069 After the success of "He's A Rebel," 395 00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:16,980 that's when I said, "OK... 396 00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,648 He knows how to make hit songs, 397 00:23:18,815 --> 00:23:20,408 so now I need to sign with him." 398 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,239 First of all he changed my name from Darlene Wright 399 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,575 to Darlene Love, and my first record 400 00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:26,364 was supposed to be "He's Sure The Boy I Love." 401 00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:29,284 So we go into the studio. I'm signed with him now. 402 00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:31,919 Everything is legal. We record "He's Sure The Boy I Love," 403 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,501 and I'm tootling down the street couple of months later 404 00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:37,292 and I hear the disc jockey say, "Well, the new record by The Crystals." 405 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:41,133 And I'm going, "Crystals? What'd he do? Fly them in?" He didn't tell us. 406 00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:47,636 No, it was my voice on "He's Sure The Boy I Love." So I was really pissed. 407 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:53,604 [MAN] You couldn't fit two stars in the room at the same time, 408 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:56,940 so Phil Spector really kept her in a box. 409 00:23:57,103 --> 00:23:59,197 The best material that she was putting out 410 00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:01,198 wasn't even coming out under her name. 411 00:24:01,357 --> 00:24:03,860 [SANTOS] What did you think after this song became a hit? 412 00:24:04,026 --> 00:24:06,495 Mad. 413 00:24:06,654 --> 00:24:09,658 'Cause this was a Darlene Love record. 414 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:17,875 I'm always amazed at how many backup vocalists I've heard 415 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,216 and I've encountered who kill me, who I hear 'em and I think, 416 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,302 "Man, you're as good as Chaka Khan." There's a lot of them. 417 00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,684 You won't believe it, man. Like, um... 418 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:31,597 Tata Vega, who is an unbelievably great vocalist 419 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:34,982 and is up there with Aretha. I mean, and... and I'm looking at that, 420 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,690 and I'm thinking to myself, "What're you doing?" 421 00:24:37,852 --> 00:24:40,230 ♪ Speak, Lord 422 00:24:41,731 --> 00:24:44,405 ♪ Speak to me 423 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:49,072 ♪ Oh, speak Lord 424 00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:52,208 ♪ Won't you speak to me? 425 00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:55,415 [VEGA] I just loved music, is all. 426 00:24:55,578 --> 00:24:56,670 It's all I wanted to do. 427 00:24:56,829 --> 00:25:00,254 ♪ I was so lost 428 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,841 I was 16 and I said, "I wanna go to California. 429 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:09,055 I don't wanna go to school. I wanna be a famous singer. " Very selfish. 430 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:12,437 And my dad said, "All right." 431 00:25:12,595 --> 00:25:15,769 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 432 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:24,820 You had more of a opportunity on the west coast. 433 00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:28,031 You had exposure. 434 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:31,198 - Us growing up here in LA... - [WOMAN] Mm-hmm. 435 00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:34,117 - ...was really... - Hollywood always 436 00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:35,956 right down the street. 437 00:25:36,118 --> 00:25:37,961 So we had serious advantage. 438 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,872 Especially with the Motown people. 439 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,256 - With the Motown... - Yes. 440 00:25:41,415 --> 00:25:43,417 Oh, my God. But I remember 441 00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:45,552 too coming up, uh, we would do the long sessions 442 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,964 and we would be going home in the morning. 443 00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:50,053 - That's right. - And people would be 444 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,263 just going to work. 445 00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:53,177 [HARMONIZING VOCALS CONTINUE] 446 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:57,770 Oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder. He was it for me. 447 00:25:57,932 --> 00:26:01,653 Tata Vega, uh... incredible voice. 448 00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:04,155 Somebody introduced me, you know, "This is Tata Vega." 449 00:26:04,313 --> 00:26:07,192 "Mm-hmm. Nice to meet you." And he kept going. I went, 450 00:26:07,358 --> 00:26:09,907 "OK, I gotta do something. There's a piano." 451 00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:12,163 The only four little teeny chords I know. 452 00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:14,699 And I heard this girl doing all these riffs and like, 453 00:26:14,865 --> 00:26:16,242 I said, "Oh, my God," you know. 454 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:20,380 He came back. He said, "You sound like me." 455 00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:22,961 Is that her? Is that the same person? It's like... 456 00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:24,421 Yeah! 457 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:27,884 I just loved music is all. 458 00:26:28,045 --> 00:26:29,342 It's all I wanted to do. 459 00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:30,506 [♪ TATA VEGA: "LET'S MAKE A BETTER WORLD"] 460 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:32,266 ♪ Oh, listen 461 00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:36,146 ♪ The world we know was built on skill 462 00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:38,978 ♪ That alone don't count 463 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:40,517 [CHUCKLES] 464 00:26:40,683 --> 00:26:43,027 ♪ Ah, you know without the sweat 465 00:26:43,185 --> 00:26:47,406 ♪ And toil of mind it wouldn't be worth a dime 466 00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:50,068 [SPRINGSTEEN] It goes back, like I say, to the church call and response. 467 00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:53,534 ♪ Pull a fish from the water to the people from the water 468 00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:57,075 ♪ To the river to the bank to the happy to the sad 469 00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,039 ♪ Through the first through the last 470 00:26:59,201 --> 00:27:02,250 There's that guy out front, testifying, 471 00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:06,964 and then there's sorta the community behind him, you know, amen'ing. 472 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:10,300 ♪ Everybody, let's sing Sing, sing 473 00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:14,263 ♪ Well, everybody Let's sing sing, sing, sing 474 00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:16,519 [SPRINGSTEEN] That was sort of the backup sound 475 00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:20,227 that came straight out of gospel and the church and was secularized. 476 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:23,188 That was a sound of worldly knowledge. [LAUGHS] 477 00:27:23,351 --> 00:27:26,696 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 478 00:27:28,648 --> 00:27:31,071 [WOMAN] Ike Turner, oh my goodness. Ike and Tina Turner. 479 00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:33,073 I just... I couldn't believe 480 00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:36,079 he asked me if I wanted to start working right away. 481 00:27:36,238 --> 00:27:38,866 And I said, "Well, yes, of course." 482 00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:41,206 But little did I know he meant that week. 483 00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:43,497 [SOUL MUSIC CONTINUES] 484 00:27:47,291 --> 00:27:51,216 [LENNEAR] I think we were the first action figures of R&B, 485 00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:53,507 [LAUGHS] The Ikettes, 486 00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:56,392 the Ike and Tina Turner Review. 487 00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:02,724 [MIDLER] The girls were absolutely sensational. 488 00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:04,437 Tina was a force of nature, of course, 489 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,227 but they were no slouches either. 490 00:28:06,394 --> 00:28:08,522 They were fantastic. 491 00:28:13,401 --> 00:28:15,745 It was what, peace, love and happiness and, you know, 492 00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:18,497 women burning their bras, you know, women's lib, 493 00:28:18,656 --> 00:28:23,628 and the timing was just right for that way to present yourself. 494 00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:27,507 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 495 00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:36,382 [♪ TINA TURNER: "BOLD SOUL SISTER"] 496 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:39,428 - ♪ Oh! - ♪ Oh, no 497 00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:41,846 [BOYD] Ike Turner saw himself as a pimp, 498 00:28:42,012 --> 00:28:46,313 and he saw his backup singers, even his wife... 499 00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:48,603 - ♪ I do what I wanna do - ...as the women 500 00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:50,146 who worked for him, his hos. 501 00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:51,404 ♪ Do what you wanna 502 00:28:51,564 --> 00:28:52,611 ♪ When you wanna 503 00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:54,650 ♪ Now do your thing, soul sister 504 00:28:54,817 --> 00:28:58,492 [LENNEAR] He made sure that you had a certain look 505 00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:01,248 and that you were able to walk a certain way 506 00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:03,159 and dance a certain way. 507 00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:05,669 ♪ Now I'm gonna try 508 00:29:05,828 --> 00:29:07,671 [MABRY] There are still artists right now 509 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,128 that view a backup singer as eye candy. 510 00:29:10,291 --> 00:29:13,044 Personally, that's not backup singing. That's just playing a role. 511 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,302 ♪ Let me see you 512 00:29:14,462 --> 00:29:16,385 [WOMAN] There's one artist that I've worked with. 513 00:29:17,131 --> 00:29:20,726 I just get chills when I think about how I just was so demoralized, 514 00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:24,890 um, at the office. We were basically naked. 515 00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:28,901 Dress code: "Make guys excite." 516 00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:30,527 ♪ Let me see it 517 00:29:31,353 --> 00:29:32,479 ♪ Let me see you 518 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:34,986 ♪ You and I 519 00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:38,110 [LENNEAR] You know, I tried to look nice 520 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,030 and I tried to carry myself in a decent way, 521 00:29:41,197 --> 00:29:44,576 but how it comes across, I mean, I don't set out to say, 522 00:29:44,742 --> 00:29:47,416 "I'm going to be the sex symbol tonight." 523 00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:49,296 [MAN] But you posed in Playboy. 524 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,132 [SIGHS] 525 00:29:55,377 --> 00:29:58,301 There was something in Playboy, yes, there was. 526 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:10,480 - [SONG ENDS] - [APPLAUSE] 527 00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:20,699 [LOVE] The English rock scene was just a... a phenomenon. 528 00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:22,363 They were trying to sound black. 529 00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:25,033 Most all of them tried to sound black. 530 00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:26,879 And the only way they could get that sound, 531 00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:28,911 they had to use us to get that sound. 532 00:30:29,078 --> 00:30:32,958 Like Led Zeppelin, for example. Robert Plant or Joe Cocker even. 533 00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:34,124 [♪ JOE COCKER: "LEARNING TO LIVE TOGETHER"] 534 00:30:34,291 --> 00:30:36,134 ♪ Once while traveling 535 00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:38,341 ♪ Across the sky 536 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:44,140 ♪ This lovely planet caught my eye 537 00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:47,225 Many years ago, when I was singing with Ray, 538 00:30:47,388 --> 00:30:52,189 and I saw this guy contorting in the front row of this concert. 539 00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:53,443 So I'm standing like this, 540 00:30:53,602 --> 00:30:55,024 and I'm telling the rest of the girls through my teeth, 541 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,155 "Who is that guy? What's wrong with him?" 542 00:30:57,314 --> 00:30:58,266 ♪ Until we die 543 00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:09,161 ♪ We're just learning to live together 544 00:31:09,326 --> 00:31:12,421 ♪ Learning to live together 545 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:18,053 ♪ Learning to live together till we die 546 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,679 But what I loved about working with Joe 547 00:31:20,838 --> 00:31:23,933 is that he let us be ourselves. 548 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:27,720 In England, they were like, "Go for it. 549 00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:30,015 Give us all you have." 550 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,400 That... it was the reason for the innovation of rock and roll. 551 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,483 ♪ Oooh 552 00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:40,115 ♪ Ooh-hoo 553 00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:43,574 - ♪ Ooh - ♪ Whoo! 554 00:31:44,778 --> 00:31:46,325 [LENNEAR] He gave us free rein, 555 00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:49,037 and everybody's face would light up, you know. 556 00:31:49,199 --> 00:31:51,122 ♪ Whoo! 557 00:31:51,285 --> 00:31:53,333 ♪ Ooh 558 00:31:53,495 --> 00:31:55,497 And somebody would start singing something, 559 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,632 or someone would start playing something 560 00:31:57,791 --> 00:31:59,634 and everybody just... 561 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:06,642 ♪ Until we die 562 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,519 ♪ Well, we're learning to live together 563 00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:13,933 And then when I got to A&M, I was coming down the stairs from Lou's office. 564 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:17,478 Joe was coming on the lot from that front gate and he said, 565 00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:19,363 "There she bloody is." 566 00:32:19,521 --> 00:32:21,899 He said, "I want you to work on all of my records." 567 00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:25,903 ♪ Learning to live together 568 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:27,572 At any moment, you would see 569 00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:29,832 James Taylor coming down the hallway, 570 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,415 or you'd see Carole coming out, saying, "Come sing with me." 571 00:32:33,577 --> 00:32:36,626 ♪ Till we die ♪ 572 00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:42,754 Let me in, honey, to my other home. 573 00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,256 Whoo! 574 00:32:46,423 --> 00:32:50,769 [♪ THE ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"] 575 00:32:54,056 --> 00:32:56,309 What a great studio. 576 00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:59,524 Boy, did we have some times in this studio. 577 00:32:59,687 --> 00:33:02,782 [MUSIC CONTINUES] 578 00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:09,489 So it was like very late at night and I was very, 579 00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:11,123 you know, a little pregnant. 580 00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,329 Had curlers and the whole thing in my hair, 581 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:15,369 getting ready to go to bed. And we got a call 582 00:33:15,536 --> 00:33:20,133 "Merry, there's a group of guys in town called Rolling... 583 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:23,089 The Rolling somebodies and they're from England, 584 00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:27,007 and they need somebody that will sing with them." 585 00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:30,517 They picked me up with silk pajamas on, 586 00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:34,306 a mink coat, and a Chanel scarf on my head. 587 00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:37,941 [MAN] We said, "It'd be wonderful if a woman sang this part about, 588 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,569 that I'd written about rape, murder and all this. 589 00:33:40,728 --> 00:33:43,231 It was in the middle of the night and we thought, 590 00:33:43,397 --> 00:33:45,115 "Well, we would love to have a woman sing this part." 591 00:33:45,274 --> 00:33:47,402 I didn't know her from Adam. 592 00:33:47,568 --> 00:33:48,990 Then she turned up in her curlers. 593 00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:50,746 She was in bed and she got outta bed. 594 00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,407 And, you know, it was a kind of raunchy part to sing. 595 00:33:53,574 --> 00:33:55,417 I said, "What? 596 00:33:57,453 --> 00:34:00,548 Rape, murder? It's just a shot away?" 597 00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:05,678 I started to sing: "it's just a shot away, just a shot away" with Mick. 598 00:34:05,836 --> 00:34:08,965 She sings the lyrics right along me, and with a lot of personality, 599 00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:10,348 which is what was needed. 600 00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:12,805 ♪ Don't you worry 601 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:16,723 ♪ War, children 602 00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:20,519 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 603 00:34:20,684 --> 00:34:26,737 What I liked was that she could sing. She was able to be Merry. 604 00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:28,867 She didn't have to bring it down. 605 00:34:29,026 --> 00:34:31,700 He said, "You wanna do another one?" I said, "Sure, I'll do another one." 606 00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:34,285 I mean, she just did it, like, couple of times, you know. 607 00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:37,668 So I said to myself, "Mm-hmm, I'm gonna do another 608 00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:40,329 and I'm gonna blow them outta this room." 609 00:34:41,997 --> 00:34:46,423 I went in again and I did that pass on the part that says, 610 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:49,338 ♪ Rape, murder Just a shot away 611 00:34:49,505 --> 00:34:51,553 So I had to go up another octave. 612 00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,683 [SHOUTING] 613 00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:57,472 ♪ Rape, murder 614 00:34:57,638 --> 00:35:01,563 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 615 00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,480 ♪ Rape, murder, yeah 616 00:35:05,646 --> 00:35:09,822 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 617 00:35:09,983 --> 00:35:13,203 - ♪ Rape, murder - [MAN] Whoo! 618 00:35:13,362 --> 00:35:17,583 ♪ It's just a shot away It's a just shot away 619 00:35:17,741 --> 00:35:21,120 ♪ Yeah, yeah 620 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:23,380 - ["GIMME SHELTER"] - [JAGGER] You know, you do these things 621 00:35:23,539 --> 00:35:24,540 at sort of two in the morning, 622 00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:27,209 and then you come in the next day and you go, "Bloody hell, that's good." 623 00:35:27,376 --> 00:35:31,301 Yeah. I don't hear a hand clap. [LAUGHS] 624 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:34,433 [JONES] Everybody just tells me, "You have to bring everything down." 625 00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,935 So when the rock and roll world came and said, 626 00:35:37,094 --> 00:35:40,598 "No, we want you to sing," it saved us. 627 00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:43,938 It saved us. Saved our lives. 628 00:35:45,102 --> 00:35:47,730 [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS] 629 00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:58,540 Lisa, let's practice that. Lisa, let's do that. 630 00:35:58,699 --> 00:36:00,701 Let's just... just do the coda. 631 00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:05,419 - [HUMMING] - So Vinnie, from the coda. 632 00:36:05,581 --> 00:36:08,630 - Just the coda. - [SOFT ROCK PLAYS] 633 00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,298 ♪ Mercury falling 634 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,093 [VOCALIZING] 635 00:36:17,259 --> 00:36:19,637 ♪ I rise from my bed 636 00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:25,271 ♪ Collect my thoughts together 637 00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:32,320 ♪ But have to hold my head 638 00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:41,288 - ♪ Seems that she's gone - ♪ Gone 639 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:44,545 ♪ Leaving me too soon 640 00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:47,252 During "The Hounds of Winter," I just indicated to Lisa 641 00:36:47,414 --> 00:36:49,837 that she should, you know, vocalize and do something 642 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,300 to evoke the spirit of loneliness. 643 00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,136 [VOCALIZING] 644 00:36:56,298 --> 00:36:59,051 And out comes this voice, you know, amazing, 645 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:02,729 extraordinary, ghostly voice. 646 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:05,311 So every time she's performed that with me, 647 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:07,852 I've asked her to do that. 648 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:13,023 [STING] Lisa, give... you can give me more than that. 649 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:14,863 Really? OK. 650 00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:17,027 [STING] Give me something to play with. 651 00:37:17,194 --> 00:37:19,993 - Let me reel you in. - [LAUGHS] 652 00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:23,785 - [IMITATES FISHING REEL] - [GUITAR PLAYING] 653 00:37:23,951 --> 00:37:26,830 And I'm also intensely proud of my band. 654 00:37:26,995 --> 00:37:31,592 My greatest pleasure is to stand back and let them do what they can do. 655 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,593 [BOTTI] And they kick into this song called "Hounds of Winter," 656 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,254 and they go to this out vamp. 657 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,139 And Sting was cool enough to say, "All right, go. 658 00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:40,346 Put a spotlight on her and just turn her loose." 659 00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:43,934 - [VOCALIZING] - [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS] 660 00:38:20,299 --> 00:38:24,850 - [CROWD CHEERING] - Lisa Fischer. 661 00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:28,892 [STING] That's a powerhouse voice, you know, and... 662 00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,856 I think of her as a star. 663 00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:33,862 She's a star. 664 00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:37,070 [HUMMING] 665 00:38:40,694 --> 00:38:43,664 She puts her whole self into it and then 666 00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:47,122 there's just something totally transcendent that happens. 667 00:38:47,284 --> 00:38:51,209 [VOCALIZING] 668 00:38:54,041 --> 00:38:57,966 [FISCHER] You're a little feather, 669 00:38:58,128 --> 00:39:01,098 and somebody just said... [BLOWS] and you just go. 670 00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:09,473 You just go and you never fall. 671 00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,983 You never hit your head. You just kinda land. 672 00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:14,770 That's what it feels like to me. 673 00:39:20,484 --> 00:39:22,703 [MAXWELL] The human voice is the most pure expression 674 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,033 coming from your own being. 675 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:28,576 There's nothing between your soul and your ability and your body and them. 676 00:39:28,742 --> 00:39:31,916 It's not being camouflaged by a trumpet or a saxophone or guitar. 677 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,083 It's pure, and that's why they're so sensitive about it, 678 00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:37,046 because they're putting it out there. 679 00:39:41,546 --> 00:39:42,513 [VOCALIZING ENDS] 680 00:39:42,923 --> 00:39:44,846 [FISCHER] Everything's a mess. Sorry. 681 00:39:45,008 --> 00:39:49,263 Uh... everything's a mess. It's just a mess. 682 00:39:49,429 --> 00:39:54,026 Uh, these are old gold albums I haven't put up yet. Um... 683 00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:57,939 That's something from Tina Turner's tour that was a gift from her. 684 00:39:58,105 --> 00:40:02,030 This is, um, an old poster of Luther Vandross that I love. 685 00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:04,240 I met him right after that tour. 686 00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:07,748 When I auditioned for him, I walk into the room 687 00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,284 and he's sitting around the piano and there's this, um, 688 00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,578 container with some fried chicken in it. 689 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:15,714 I had to giggle. I was just like, "Yeah!" 690 00:40:15,872 --> 00:40:18,250 - ♪ And the eagle - ♪ And the eagle 691 00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:20,966 - ♪ And the eagle flies - Oh... 692 00:40:21,128 --> 00:40:22,471 [FISCHER] And he goes... 693 00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,803 ♪ And the eagle flies ♪ 694 00:40:25,966 --> 00:40:27,934 "Sing this for me." 695 00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:29,720 And I would sing something to him. 696 00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:34,733 He's like, "OK, now can you give that to me with more air?" 697 00:40:34,891 --> 00:40:37,815 And that was like, "More air?" I was like, "OK." 698 00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:42,108 'Cause, you know, nobody was talking about those subtleties, you know. 699 00:40:42,274 --> 00:40:44,447 [LASLEY] A lot of his approach was breath and air. 700 00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:47,658 Sometimes the finesse of a note, like... No turning back 701 00:40:47,821 --> 00:40:50,495 Like, the way you got off a note... Back 702 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:54,207 - One, two... - ♪ And there's a rose 703 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:57,589 I sounded just like that yesterday when I was understudying the note. 704 00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,340 - [LAUGHING] - [WOMAN] He really did. 705 00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:01,884 [VANDROSS] You know what I'm saying? I was up there. 706 00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:04,216 - [WOMAN] He was up there. - It was me and John Glenn. 707 00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:08,559 [FISCHER] After we were done singing, he says, "Well, " he says, 708 00:41:08,717 --> 00:41:11,266 "if you can dance, you've got this gig." 709 00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:14,147 And I was like, "Yay!" And then I was like, "Uh-oh." 710 00:41:15,432 --> 00:41:18,402 Wait a minute. Oh, I've got two left feet. 711 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,154 Lisa. ♪ Are you ready now? 712 00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:23,156 - Hoo You sound nice 713 00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:25,067 - ♪ Say it twice - ♪ Hoo, hoo 714 00:41:25,233 --> 00:41:27,486 ♪ Are you ready? Won't you tell me, doll? 715 00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,781 - ♪ Yeah - ♪ Tell me and then tell me again 716 00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:32,699 - ♪ Hoo, hoo - ♪ Now do it... 717 00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:36,040 [FISCHER] He knew how to pull each gift together 718 00:41:36,203 --> 00:41:41,050 and make this beautiful... piece of jewelry. 719 00:41:41,208 --> 00:41:43,802 - ♪ All the way - ♪ All 720 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,305 [VANDROSS] You know, when I was a kid buying records 721 00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:49,967 by The Shirelles, by Aretha Franklin, by Dionne Warwick, 722 00:41:50,133 --> 00:41:53,182 one of the first things that appealed to me 723 00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:57,521 were the background vocals, and that remained with me. 724 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:01,732 Luther was a background singer and a jingle singer in New York. 725 00:42:01,895 --> 00:42:04,239 Back in those days, Luther was very heavy 726 00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:07,571 and wore three-piece suits, sweating like a pig, 727 00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:09,907 singing like an angel. 728 00:42:10,070 --> 00:42:12,243 [SPRINGSTEEN] Luther Vandross, when I first met Luther Vandross, 729 00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:15,204 I went down to Philadelphia, David Bowie... 730 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:19,292 David Bowie invited me down, 1973, to hear... 731 00:42:19,454 --> 00:42:21,877 He was recording "Young Americans." 732 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,964 And I had one record out and he cut a couple of my songs, 733 00:42:25,126 --> 00:42:27,720 and so I was tremendously excited 734 00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,052 and I took the bus to Philadelphia. 735 00:42:30,215 --> 00:42:33,139 And I went in the studio and I met David and I met the band. 736 00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:35,429 And Luther Vandross was one of the backup singers 737 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:38,439 in David... David Bowie's Young Americans band. 738 00:42:38,598 --> 00:42:40,976 My God, I can trot on that. 739 00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:43,565 ♪ Time, giving it 740 00:42:43,728 --> 00:42:45,901 - ♪ Giving it - ♪ Keeping it back 741 00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:48,237 That's cool. That's cool. OK, next one. 742 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,949 Gotta do it this way to get it... One, two... 743 00:42:51,111 --> 00:42:53,409 [SPRINGSTEEN] Well, it was... [SINGS] It was just fabulous, you know. 744 00:42:53,572 --> 00:42:57,167 And it was David Bowie's soul record, in that sense, 745 00:42:57,325 --> 00:43:01,546 and he called on those voices that were rooted in the church to bring that in, 746 00:43:01,705 --> 00:43:04,709 because they bring a world with them, a world with them. 747 00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:08,048 ♪ All night 748 00:43:08,211 --> 00:43:10,964 ♪ All night She wants the young American 749 00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:13,725 ♪ Young American Young American 750 00:43:13,883 --> 00:43:15,726 ♪ She wants the young American 751 00:43:17,721 --> 00:43:20,850 I believe that, you know, the role of the backup singer 752 00:43:21,016 --> 00:43:22,609 evolves as music evolves. 753 00:43:22,767 --> 00:43:25,987 [AUSTIN] Music was becoming more complicated and richer 754 00:43:26,146 --> 00:43:27,989 and more interesting in the '70s, 755 00:43:28,148 --> 00:43:30,492 and so the backgrounds became more sophisticated. 756 00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:34,905 It just became more than vocals. It was the music. 757 00:43:35,071 --> 00:43:37,824 ♪ All night 758 00:43:37,991 --> 00:43:40,414 ♪ All night She wants a young American 759 00:43:40,577 --> 00:43:41,999 ♪ Young American 760 00:43:42,162 --> 00:43:43,642 [LESLEY] And you find yourself singing 761 00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:45,961 what the background singers sang, 762 00:43:46,124 --> 00:43:47,967 as much as what the lead singer sang. 763 00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:51,175 ♪ Mama's got cramps and look at my hands shake 764 00:43:51,338 --> 00:43:53,966 ♪ I heard the news today Oh, boy 765 00:43:54,132 --> 00:43:56,351 ♪ I got a suite and you got defeat 766 00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:59,513 ♪ Ain't there a woman I can sock on the jaw? 767 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,932 ♪ Ain't there a man who can say no more? 768 00:44:02,098 --> 00:44:04,692 ♪ Ain't there a child I can hold without judging? 769 00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:07,445 ♪ Ain't there a pen that will write before they die? 770 00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:10,153 ♪ Ain't you proud that you've still got faces? 771 00:44:10,315 --> 00:44:14,866 ♪ Ain't there one damn song that can make me 772 00:44:15,028 --> 00:44:18,077 ♪ Break down and cry? 773 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,494 - ♪ All night - ♪ All night 774 00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:26,837 [WOMAN] You know, when you think about the history of pop music 775 00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:30,002 and all the memorable hooks that people sing along with, 776 00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:32,591 they're singing with us most of the time, 777 00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:36,634 because that's what we do on records. We come in and sing the hooks. 778 00:44:37,676 --> 00:44:38,677 [ROCK MUSIC PLAYING] 779 00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:40,845 [♪ GEORGE HARRISON: "WAH WAH"] 780 00:44:54,693 --> 00:44:58,072 ♪ Wah-wah 781 00:44:58,238 --> 00:45:01,333 ♪ You give me a wah-wah 782 00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:06,455 [LENNEAR] That show was just something that was cosmic. 783 00:45:08,415 --> 00:45:10,713 If you were there to experience it, 784 00:45:10,875 --> 00:45:14,220 it will be something you'll take to the grave. 785 00:45:14,379 --> 00:45:18,350 ♪ Wah-wah 786 00:45:24,806 --> 00:45:27,184 [JONES] Claudia Lennear had that exposure, 787 00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:32,732 and then the next big moment came for her with, um, The Rolling Stones. 788 00:45:32,897 --> 00:45:36,492 [JAGGER] And Claudia Lennear, she was like the really hot one of the... 789 00:45:36,651 --> 00:45:38,449 of the Ikettes, you know. 790 00:45:38,611 --> 00:45:42,115 She was a really great dancer, very hot, beautiful girl. 791 00:45:42,282 --> 00:45:45,752 [AUSTIN] There were a few young ladies in the background world 792 00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:49,540 who were trying to get to the leading men as quickly as possible. 793 00:45:51,958 --> 00:45:55,588 [LENNEAR] You know, Mick and I had a very special relationship, 794 00:45:55,754 --> 00:45:58,348 and we used to have so much fun. 795 00:45:58,506 --> 00:46:01,976 We used to have so much fun, just doing silly things, 796 00:46:02,135 --> 00:46:06,311 dressing in each other's clothes. Just crazy, wacky stuff. 797 00:46:09,642 --> 00:46:11,815 You know, Mick has his bad boy image 798 00:46:11,978 --> 00:46:15,107 and David had his androgynous look, 799 00:46:15,273 --> 00:46:18,652 but first and foremost, they were just all really sweet. 800 00:46:19,277 --> 00:46:21,279 Well, anyway, she must have enjoyed those times, 801 00:46:21,446 --> 00:46:23,323 because she looked like she was. 802 00:46:26,493 --> 00:46:30,373 ♪ I don't need no wah-wah 803 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:36,970 - ♪ Wah-wah - ♪ And I know how sweet life can be 804 00:46:37,128 --> 00:46:40,132 [CLAYTON] At that particular time, there was so much going on in the world, 805 00:46:40,298 --> 00:46:42,926 with the Civil Rights Movement and the war. 806 00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:46,141 [GREENE] Though there was so much politically going on, 807 00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,853 you know, you're pretty insulated from it a lot of times 808 00:46:49,015 --> 00:46:52,019 and you only really find it out 809 00:46:52,185 --> 00:46:53,937 when you get out there on the road, 810 00:46:54,103 --> 00:46:56,322 the places that you stay, the people that you talk to. 811 00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:59,530 You're able to see the actual politics and the culture, 812 00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,293 you know, what's going on in the culture. 813 00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:09,961 It was weird. It was happy, musically, but it was a sad time. 814 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,838 [MAN] One, two, three. 815 00:47:12,997 --> 00:47:16,126 [♪ LYNYRD SKYNYRD: "SWEET HOME ALABAMA"] 816 00:47:16,292 --> 00:47:17,635 [MAN] Turn it up. 817 00:47:20,463 --> 00:47:22,306 [CLAYTON] I think Clydie King called me for that session. 818 00:47:22,465 --> 00:47:25,218 She said, "There's this guy. His name is Lynyrd Skynyrd. " 819 00:47:25,385 --> 00:47:29,561 I said, "Really?" She said, "Yes, and he wants to do this song 820 00:47:29,722 --> 00:47:32,020 called 'Sweet Home A...“' I said, "Alabama? 821 00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,527 Honey, nobody wants to sing anything about Alabama." 822 00:47:34,686 --> 00:47:37,064 I certainly didn't wanna sing anything about Alabama. 823 00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:40,575 ♪ Well, I heard Mr. Young sing about her 824 00:47:42,402 --> 00:47:45,406 ♪ Well, I heard ole Neil put her down 825 00:47:47,574 --> 00:47:50,373 ♪ Well, I hope Neil Young will remember 826 00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:54,998 ♪ A southern man don't need him around 827 00:47:55,164 --> 00:47:57,838 [BOYD] It was a moment when this idea of black power 828 00:47:58,001 --> 00:48:00,845 had a lot to do with people defining themselves 829 00:48:01,004 --> 00:48:04,884 based on their own ideas, as opposed to white overseer's view 830 00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,892 of how one should behave. 831 00:48:07,051 --> 00:48:08,974 We don't give a fuck about whether or not 832 00:48:09,137 --> 00:48:11,177 white people are offended. We're gonna do our thing. 833 00:48:11,264 --> 00:48:14,359 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 834 00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:20,523 [CLAYTON] My husband was 19 years older than I was. 835 00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:24,365 He said, "Oh, you need to sing 'Sweet Home Alabama."' 836 00:48:24,527 --> 00:48:28,703 I said, "Well, why?" He says, "You'll understand later in life." 837 00:48:28,865 --> 00:48:31,789 He said, "Right now, you don't understand, Merry. You're young. 838 00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:34,750 You don't... you don't really understand." 839 00:48:34,913 --> 00:48:40,545 ♪ In Birmingham they love the governor, boo-hoo-hoo 840 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:42,883 ♪ Now we all did what could do 841 00:48:44,339 --> 00:48:46,262 That's what we were doing, we were living. 842 00:48:46,424 --> 00:48:50,019 We were living the moment, living that emotion, creating. 843 00:48:50,178 --> 00:48:54,024 It was basically like a slap in the face. A-ha, sweet home Alabama. 844 00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,684 We got your sweet home Alabama. 845 00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:58,694 [SONG CONTINUES] 846 00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:03,529 But we gonna sing you anyway, and we're gonna sing the crap out of you. 847 00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,910 [SONG CONTINUES] 848 00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:15,457 [BOYD] If given the opportunity, 849 00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:19,841 we will demonstrate our value beyond any reasonable doubt, 850 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:23,629 so much so that going forward, when you start to define singing, 851 00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:26,969 it's going to be based on this transformative sound 852 00:49:27,131 --> 00:49:29,350 coming out of these backup singers' mouths. 853 00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:33,350 [SONG CONTINUES] 854 00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:41,480 My way of being an activist in our struggle 855 00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:46,447 as a black people was to do the music. 856 00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:50,580 ♪ Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord It's the last line. 857 00:49:50,738 --> 00:49:57,212 ♪ Lord lift us up 858 00:50:01,165 --> 00:50:04,339 ♪ Where we belong 859 00:50:04,502 --> 00:50:09,633 ♪ Where the eagles cry 860 00:50:09,799 --> 00:50:14,179 ♪ On a mountain high 861 00:50:15,722 --> 00:50:18,100 ♪ Lord lift us up 862 00:50:18,266 --> 00:50:22,271 ♪ Where we belong 863 00:50:24,022 --> 00:50:28,368 ♪ Up where the thrill below 864 00:50:28,526 --> 00:50:34,329 ♪ Up where the free winds blow ♪ 865 00:50:39,245 --> 00:50:41,418 Any song that you can name with background on it, 866 00:50:41,581 --> 00:50:43,629 either I was doing it with a bunch of girls, 867 00:50:43,791 --> 00:50:45,464 or either the Waters were doing it. 868 00:50:45,626 --> 00:50:47,306 [WATERS] We always went in the studio with, 869 00:50:47,462 --> 00:50:49,715 "God, we're on this song." 870 00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:54,057 And we would always do our very best, like it was ours. 871 00:50:54,218 --> 00:50:56,641 - Patti LaBelle. - Patti LaBelle. 872 00:50:56,804 --> 00:50:58,564 - "You Are My Friend." - "You Are My Friend." 873 00:50:58,598 --> 00:51:02,774 - The Bad Girls album. - [♪ "BAD GIRLS"] 874 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,866 ♪ Toot-toot, ahh, beep-beep 875 00:51:09,025 --> 00:51:11,619 That's when we really cleaned up. 876 00:51:11,778 --> 00:51:14,031 - [MAN] Whitney Houston. - Whitney Houston, 877 00:51:14,197 --> 00:51:15,289 "The Greatest Love of All." 878 00:51:15,448 --> 00:51:17,826 - All those LPs. - The Disney characters. 879 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:19,835 - Yes. - That's us on there, 880 00:51:19,994 --> 00:51:21,337 the "Small World," you know. 881 00:51:21,496 --> 00:51:23,464 - You hear all that singing. - Lion King. 882 00:51:23,623 --> 00:51:29,175 [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] 883 00:51:29,337 --> 00:51:31,715 - Uh-huh. - Growing Pains. 884 00:51:31,881 --> 00:51:34,885 As long as we got each other.. 885 00:51:35,301 --> 00:51:36,427 The biggest selling record 886 00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:39,222 in the history of records, Michael Jackson's Thriller. 887 00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:42,187 [♪ MICHAEL JACKSON: "THRILLER"] 888 00:51:42,350 --> 00:51:44,068 ♪ 'Cause this is Thriller 889 00:51:44,227 --> 00:51:46,901 [MALE WATERS] And the biggest selling movie, Avatar. 890 00:51:47,063 --> 00:51:49,782 It's some bird sounds and things like that. 891 00:51:49,941 --> 00:51:52,865 [SCREECHES] Stuff like that, 892 00:51:53,027 --> 00:51:56,372 you know, different things... But doing this kinda just took us away 893 00:51:56,531 --> 00:51:58,659 from doing our own records, you know, 894 00:51:58,825 --> 00:52:00,426 and stuff like that, which we used to do. 895 00:52:02,078 --> 00:52:04,877 Singing, you know, oohs and aahs and... 896 00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,542 It's kinda fun for a minute. Uh... 897 00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:09,381 I'm not sure if I'd like to do it for a living. 898 00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:13,139 [♪ TOM JONES: "RIVER DEEP, MOUNTAIN HIGH"] 899 00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:18,679 ♪ I love you baby like a flower loves the spring 900 00:52:18,845 --> 00:52:24,318 ♪ And I love you baby like a robin loves to sing 901 00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:29,481 ♪ And I love you baby, like the schoolboy loves to play 902 00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:32,400 ♪ Oh, and I love you baby 903 00:52:32,567 --> 00:52:35,741 ♪ River deep and mountain high 904 00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,744 [LOVE] Phil Spector's name started getting big, 905 00:52:37,864 --> 00:52:39,081 my name started getting big, 906 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:42,790 because the rock and roll people like Bruce and Elton John 907 00:52:42,952 --> 00:52:45,876 and Stevie wanted to know who that girl singer was. 908 00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:47,631 ♪ I want you baby 909 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:53,471 I mean, she without question, is a lead singer. 910 00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:55,131 You started to pick up that voice 911 00:52:55,298 --> 00:52:58,928 and you began to have an allegiance to that voice. 912 00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:03,940 ♪ River deep, mountain high 913 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:08,569 ♪ If I lost you, would I cry? 914 00:53:08,728 --> 00:53:13,484 [LOVE] That made me wanna be out there by myself even more as a solo artist. 915 00:53:13,649 --> 00:53:17,495 ♪ Baby, baby ♪ 916 00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:21,624 I saw then I'd have to leave that group to become a solo singer. 917 00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:23,204 [CLAYTON] Singing background, to me, 918 00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:26,587 it was like a rehearsal for what I was gonna do for my project. 919 00:53:27,872 --> 00:53:31,797 I wanted to sing as Merry Clayton, 920 00:53:31,959 --> 00:53:37,011 to the masses. I wanted to get my stuff out to the masses, 921 00:53:37,173 --> 00:53:39,392 and God sent me Lou Adler. 922 00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:42,804 [SOUL MUSIC PLAYS] 923 00:53:45,848 --> 00:53:50,570 Merry consciously wanted to be a solo artist and a star. 924 00:53:51,938 --> 00:53:55,238 Whenever Merry appeared, standing ovations. 925 00:53:55,399 --> 00:53:59,449 I mean, it's as if they never had seen or heard someone like that. 926 00:53:59,612 --> 00:54:04,664 ♪ Southern man You'd better keep your head 927 00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:10,127 ♪ Don't forget what your good book said 928 00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:14,339 When it came to my project, I was gonna kick ass and take names. 929 00:54:14,502 --> 00:54:19,008 ♪ Southern man When will you pay them back? 930 00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:22,143 ♪ I heard screaming 931 00:54:22,301 --> 00:54:25,225 ♪ Bullwhip cracking 932 00:54:25,388 --> 00:54:27,982 ♪ How long? How long? 933 00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:32,145 ♪ How long? Baby, how long? 934 00:54:32,311 --> 00:54:34,780 [ADLER] She made three really good albums. 935 00:54:34,939 --> 00:54:38,239 They all sound like somebody that's as big as Aretha Franklin. 936 00:54:38,401 --> 00:54:41,530 ♪ Why don't you get yourself together? 937 00:54:41,696 --> 00:54:44,245 ♪ Get your heart, your mind 938 00:54:44,407 --> 00:54:48,332 ♪ And your soul together, oh 939 00:54:48,494 --> 00:54:50,041 [CLAYTON] I think Lou did a great job 940 00:54:50,204 --> 00:54:53,048 and A&M did a great job promoting my records here. 941 00:54:53,207 --> 00:54:56,381 [LOVE] I think you do, number one, have to have that kill spirit, 942 00:54:56,544 --> 00:54:57,716 to really want it. 943 00:54:57,878 --> 00:55:00,176 Now, Merry Clayton got the kill spirit. 944 00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:02,012 I don't know why she wasn't a superstar. 945 00:55:02,174 --> 00:55:04,973 ♪ One day I'm gonna cut him down 946 00:55:05,136 --> 00:55:07,855 ♪ You see I heard screaming 947 00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:11,567 ♪ Bullwhips they were cracking 948 00:55:11,726 --> 00:55:16,152 ♪ How long? Oh, how long? 949 00:55:16,314 --> 00:55:17,941 ♪ Can you tell me? 950 00:55:18,107 --> 00:55:22,362 ♪ Oh, southern man keep your head 951 00:55:22,528 --> 00:55:28,035 We did everything possible, and it just didn't take. 952 00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:31,708 [JONES] The industry, it was controlled. 953 00:55:31,871 --> 00:55:34,545 There were rules. She was a gospel singer. 954 00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:36,505 There's only one Aretha. 955 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,965 You know, and that's the way they felt in those days. 956 00:55:39,128 --> 00:55:41,631 It could only be Aretha. Only could be Diana Ross. 957 00:55:41,797 --> 00:55:43,470 ♪ Good book said 958 00:55:43,632 --> 00:55:47,557 ♪ Well, you can't forget what your 959 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,973 - ♪ Good book said - ♪ Oh 960 00:55:50,139 --> 00:55:52,267 Yes, I became frustrated at one time, 961 00:55:52,433 --> 00:55:55,437 said, "Damn, the record didn't go any further than this? 962 00:55:55,603 --> 00:55:56,729 What're we doing wrong?" 963 00:55:59,482 --> 00:56:05,910 I felt like if I just gave my heart to what I was doing, 964 00:56:06,072 --> 00:56:08,996 I would automatically be a star. 965 00:56:09,158 --> 00:56:12,583 ♪ Southern man ♪ 966 00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:23,848 I think what happens with the whole issue of background 967 00:56:24,006 --> 00:56:27,431 versus lead singing is, you know, 968 00:56:27,593 --> 00:56:29,391 the material that you're given 969 00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:33,148 and how you work with producers. 970 00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:36,106 [VOCALIZING] 971 00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:46,488 In the mid '70s, Darlene Love is finally freed 972 00:56:46,654 --> 00:56:48,497 from her contract with Phil Spector. 973 00:56:48,656 --> 00:56:50,374 I had signed with Gamble and Huff. 974 00:56:50,533 --> 00:56:53,036 Who were, at that time, the hottest thing out there. 975 00:56:53,202 --> 00:56:56,376 And I say, "OK, here's my career. It's gonna really go now." 976 00:56:56,539 --> 00:56:59,383 And, uh, there was another door I ran into. 977 00:57:02,378 --> 00:57:07,179 [ZANES] Within weeks, they sell her contract back to Phil Spector 978 00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,309 and the nightmare continues. 979 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,160 [LOVE] This was the new Phil Spector. 980 00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,559 He did the Beatles thing and, you know, he was a big star, 981 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,524 so now he's gonna act like a big star in front of this little star, 982 00:57:19,687 --> 00:57:21,985 Darlene Love, and I wasn't having it. 983 00:57:23,232 --> 00:57:26,031 It got to be so bad, I just said, "You know what? 984 00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:28,036 I've had it." That's what I said to myself. 985 00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:30,869 Took the earphones off my ears, put 'em in the chain 986 00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:34,956 picked up my coat, put it on and walked out the studio. 987 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,998 I didn't see Phil Spector no more for over 20 years. 988 00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:43,302 [SPRINGSTEEN] Many of these singers came out of the music business at a time 989 00:57:43,461 --> 00:57:47,682 when the singer depended on a songwriter, 990 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,389 somebody who knew how to feature their voice, 991 00:57:50,551 --> 00:57:53,304 somebody who knew how to create a hit arrangement. 992 00:57:53,471 --> 00:57:56,020 Those are a lot of things to be dependent upon, you know. 993 00:57:56,182 --> 00:57:59,277 And I know so many people with incredible voices, 994 00:57:59,435 --> 00:58:03,815 but if you don't find someone who understands who you are, 995 00:58:03,981 --> 00:58:07,281 you can be a great singer and just not... and that... 996 00:58:07,443 --> 00:58:09,523 just not make that next step, you know. There's... 997 00:58:10,112 --> 00:58:12,160 I mean, the country's filled with them, you know. 998 00:58:12,323 --> 00:58:14,826 [♪ OTIS REDDING: "I'VE GOT DREAMS TO REMEMBER"] 999 00:58:20,623 --> 00:58:23,627 There's no guarantees in entertainment. 1000 00:58:23,792 --> 00:58:25,590 There's no... no guarantees. 1001 00:58:30,424 --> 00:58:33,724 [LENNEAR] I had been offered the chance to go solo several times, 1002 00:58:33,886 --> 00:58:36,981 and then ultimately, I ended up with Warner Brothers. 1003 00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:39,608 The studio was smoking. 1004 00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:43,738 It was just... and it was just amazing. 1005 00:58:43,896 --> 00:58:47,150 It was just amazing and... 1006 00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:48,989 [MAN] And how was the record received? 1007 00:58:50,402 --> 00:58:52,530 Mm... not that well. 1008 00:58:59,328 --> 00:59:02,707 [MALE WATERS] If you are out there and your name is on that doggone marquee, 1009 00:59:02,873 --> 00:59:06,923 the pressure is on 'em, and sometimes that can... that can cause, uh, 1010 00:59:07,086 --> 00:59:08,884 problems in a person's life. 1011 00:59:18,973 --> 00:59:24,901 I had a contract as a solo artist and then I was kept on, but shelved. 1012 00:59:25,688 --> 00:59:30,285 So I was on Motown, but not. And it hasn't been easy. 1013 00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:33,321 You know, there's stuff that goes on with people. 1014 00:59:36,490 --> 00:59:41,496 [LENNEAR] I had a daughter to raise. I had a band to support. 1015 00:59:41,662 --> 00:59:43,710 I mean, it just got crazy. 1016 00:59:55,384 --> 00:59:57,102 [MIZELLE] The kind of feeling that you get 1017 00:59:57,261 --> 00:59:59,684 from people screaming in the audience, 1018 00:59:59,847 --> 01:00:04,978 if you're always looking for that in life, you're gonna crash. 1019 01:00:08,606 --> 01:00:11,359 [LENNEAR] The focus wasn't on music anymore. 1020 01:00:13,402 --> 01:00:16,497 I had to send my daughter to live with my brother and his kids, 1021 01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:20,159 while I was trying to scrape things together to pay the gas bill. 1022 01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:28,876 I remember her putting out a record, but then I looked up and then... 1023 01:00:29,043 --> 01:00:30,636 I didn't see Claudia anymore. 1024 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,844 She said thank you and goodnight, that's what she said. 1025 01:00:38,344 --> 01:00:41,143 [VEGA] I thought people would be banging down my door for deals, 1026 01:00:41,305 --> 01:00:43,307 and it didn't happen like that. 1027 01:00:43,474 --> 01:00:45,897 "You're too fat. You're too old. 1028 01:00:47,645 --> 01:00:50,023 You know, you should seriously think about another career." 1029 01:00:54,943 --> 01:00:58,538 [VEGA] And after that, it's hell. 1030 01:01:02,451 --> 01:01:04,829 I think if I had "made" it, 1031 01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:07,714 like what the world... millions of dollars, all that, 1032 01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:11,548 I probably wouldn't be sitting in this chair talking to you right know, 1033 01:01:11,710 --> 01:01:13,712 'cause I would have OD'd somewhere. 1034 01:01:28,644 --> 01:01:31,864 [STING] It's not a level playing field. It never is a level playing field, 1035 01:01:32,022 --> 01:01:34,992 and you come into life understanding that. It's not about fairness. 1036 01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:37,369 It's not really about talent, you know. 1037 01:01:37,528 --> 01:01:41,783 It's... circumstance, it's luck. It's destiny. 1038 01:01:41,949 --> 01:01:47,331 I don't know what it is, but the best people deal with that. 1039 01:01:57,798 --> 01:02:01,177 [HILL] Working with Michael really did inspire me, 1040 01:02:01,343 --> 01:02:04,096 and saying like, "Wow, it's OK to dream this big. 1041 01:02:04,263 --> 01:02:06,265 It's OK to realize your dreams." 1042 01:02:06,432 --> 01:02:08,309 [♪ JUDITH HILL: "DESPERATION] 1043 01:02:08,475 --> 01:02:12,525 ♪ I still believe 1044 01:02:14,314 --> 01:02:18,194 ♪ Someday 1045 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,533 ♪ You'll come around 1046 01:02:20,696 --> 01:02:23,700 [AUSTIN] She's representational of what's happening with background singers 1047 01:02:23,866 --> 01:02:26,836 at this point. I know she aspires to be a solo artist, though. 1048 01:02:26,994 --> 01:02:30,339 ♪ I pray 1049 01:02:30,497 --> 01:02:33,297 [MAN] This last tour, I heard from other friends that were with Michael 1050 01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:37,130 that he just loved her and, of course, she got the job. 1051 01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:40,766 You know, we were so excited for him and for us to be 1052 01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,972 able to do this show, and it was coming together. 1053 01:02:43,135 --> 01:02:46,435 I can't do that. But you're fine to do it. 1054 01:02:46,597 --> 01:02:48,099 I gotta save my voice. 1055 01:02:48,265 --> 01:02:50,313 ♪ I ain't going nowhere 1056 01:02:50,476 --> 01:02:51,853 ♪ 'Cause I... 1057 01:02:52,019 --> 01:02:54,459 [HILL] And then all of a sudden, we're on our way to rehearsal 1058 01:02:54,563 --> 01:02:56,156 and we get the news and it's like, 1059 01:02:56,315 --> 01:02:59,159 "You gotta be kidding me. Like, how's that even possible?" 1060 01:02:59,318 --> 01:03:01,286 ♪ We'll always be waiting 1061 01:03:01,445 --> 01:03:03,698 ♪ So somewhere in me 1062 01:03:03,864 --> 01:03:06,333 [HILL] It's such an overwhelming shock just to go from 1063 01:03:06,492 --> 01:03:08,665 almost on our way to this huge show, 1064 01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:10,500 to all of a sudden, he's gone. 1065 01:03:10,662 --> 01:03:14,257 ♪ You ♪ 1066 01:03:15,793 --> 01:03:18,046 I was crying throughout the service 1067 01:03:18,212 --> 01:03:21,682 and I wasn't really emotionally in a place to sing, 1068 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,059 but, actually, it wasn't too unfamiliar to me, 1069 01:03:24,218 --> 01:03:26,846 because that kind of feeling and that reverence 1070 01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:29,310 reminded me a lot of church service, 1071 01:03:29,473 --> 01:03:31,350 so that's how I felt when I was there. 1072 01:03:31,517 --> 01:03:35,112 But, you know, I didn't really realize at the time 1073 01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:37,068 billions of people were watching it. 1074 01:03:37,231 --> 01:03:39,199 [ANNOUNCER] And a star is born. 1075 01:03:39,358 --> 01:03:40,780 ♪ We are the world 1076 01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:44,413 [WOMAN] Judith, thank you so much for joining us. Just 24 hours ago, 1077 01:03:44,571 --> 01:03:46,994 I think you were brought to the world's attention 1078 01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:49,501 by doing one of Michael's most famous songs ever. 1079 01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:51,162 Well, what you saw... 1080 01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:54,502 [HILL] When you're a background singer, it is a springboard in the beginning, 1081 01:03:54,665 --> 01:03:58,715 but it can easily become quicksand if that's not what you wanna do. 1082 01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:00,971 Ever since the Michael Jackson experience, 1083 01:04:01,129 --> 01:04:03,928 I've turned down almost every background singing gig, 1084 01:04:04,091 --> 01:04:07,186 because I knew that if I kept doing it, 1085 01:04:07,344 --> 01:04:11,224 then becoming an artist would become more difficult. 1086 01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:13,150 [MAXWELL] I think the world needs to hear her 1087 01:04:13,267 --> 01:04:16,567 and I didn't want her to go the way of background singing. 1088 01:04:16,728 --> 01:04:20,983 I put together the girls for Elton to go on tour and they wanted Judith. 1089 01:04:21,149 --> 01:04:24,574 Elton loves Judith, but I think she had to make a decision, 1090 01:04:24,736 --> 01:04:26,409 "Do I really wanna be a solo artist?" 1091 01:04:26,572 --> 01:04:29,041 And she's trying to do it, because she writes songs. 1092 01:04:30,576 --> 01:04:33,671 [JOHN] We in the music industry, especially African American people, 1093 01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:36,548 need to know our worth. 1094 01:04:37,457 --> 01:04:41,257 We need to know, as women, we're important. 1095 01:04:42,671 --> 01:04:46,266 And I think the breakdown is 1096 01:04:46,425 --> 01:04:52,273 when a woman doesn't know who she is and she settle for less. 1097 01:04:54,099 --> 01:04:56,193 Check out your worth, 1098 01:04:56,351 --> 01:04:58,979 because you're worth more than that. 1099 01:05:02,274 --> 01:05:03,776 [LOVE] I couldn't sleep. 1100 01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:05,615 I was getting in such a depressed state, 1101 01:05:05,777 --> 01:05:07,378 I called my mother and father, asked them 1102 01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,782 if they would take care of my kids. 1103 01:05:09,948 --> 01:05:13,373 And the most enjoyment I got back in those days was singing in church. 1104 01:05:13,535 --> 01:05:17,540 That's the only place that I was actually singing during those times. 1105 01:05:17,706 --> 01:05:21,085 Only thing I thought I could do and make a little money to survive, 1106 01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,754 you know, I started cleaning houses. 1107 01:05:23,921 --> 01:05:26,720 [WOMAN VOCALIZING] 1108 01:05:26,882 --> 01:05:29,385 [LOVE] Not the great Darlene Love. She's not doing... cleaning houses. 1109 01:05:29,551 --> 01:05:32,851 I said, "Yes, the great Darlene Love is. She is cleaning houses. " 1110 01:05:35,182 --> 01:05:39,688 One particular Christmas, I was cleaning this lady's bathroom. 1111 01:05:39,853 --> 01:05:44,984 [♪ "CHRISTMAS (BABY PLEASE COME HOME)"] 1112 01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:48,324 [LOVE] And "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)", 1113 01:05:48,487 --> 01:05:50,615 my Christmas record, 1114 01:05:50,781 --> 01:05:54,035 came on the radio while I was cleaning this bathroom. 1115 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:02,088 And I just looked up and just said, "OK, all right, Darlene, 1116 01:06:02,250 --> 01:06:05,925 this is not where you're supposed to be. You're supposed to be singing. 1117 01:06:06,088 --> 01:06:10,264 There's a whole world out there who wants to hear you sing." 1118 01:06:14,846 --> 01:06:19,647 [LOVE] And then the move from California to New York, my career just took off. 1119 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,241 Nice to have you here. Everything OK with you? 1120 01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:28,952 - Wonderful. - Thanks for being here. 1121 01:06:29,111 --> 01:06:30,408 - Come and sing it next year. - Of course. 1122 01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:32,072 [LETTERMAN] I hope you have a good holiday. 1123 01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,913 [LOVE] I have to plan what I'm going to do. I have to take a little job. 1124 01:06:35,075 --> 01:06:36,497 The bastards got my daughter. 1125 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,413 Just so you can keep your name out there. 1126 01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:42,207 But if I didn't do those jobs, then nobody would really know 1127 01:06:42,374 --> 01:06:44,468 who Darlene Love was. 1128 01:06:45,836 --> 01:06:48,931 [JONES] As a young person, I thought everybody could sing. 1129 01:06:49,089 --> 01:06:51,387 When you start getting older, then you realize, 1130 01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:54,724 everyone is not the same, that these are gifts, 1131 01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:58,982 and you have to share and go out into the world. 1132 01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:11,953 [FISCHER] Whoo! 1133 01:07:12,112 --> 01:07:15,582 Oh, my girlfriend and I took these. 1134 01:07:15,741 --> 01:07:18,836 It was supposed to be closed. You see the zipper is broken. 1135 01:07:18,994 --> 01:07:24,376 [LAUGHS] I swear it was closed. It started out closed. 1136 01:07:24,541 --> 01:07:29,593 Here, yes. It's my Grammy. 1137 01:07:29,755 --> 01:07:32,850 I just kinda keep 'em here. I don't know what to do with it. 1138 01:07:33,008 --> 01:07:35,431 [LAUGHS] I don't know what to do with it. 1139 01:07:35,594 --> 01:07:37,187 - You're looking fantastic. - Thank you. 1140 01:07:37,345 --> 01:07:38,471 - I've gotta tell this story. - OK. 1141 01:07:38,638 --> 01:07:41,312 The first time I met you, I met Lisa, 1142 01:07:41,475 --> 01:07:43,235 was you were singing background on my record. 1143 01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,361 - Yes... - "I Know How To Make You," right. 1144 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,694 ♪ I know how to make you love me, baby 1145 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,110 That's right, that's right. And I have to tell you, 1146 01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:55,247 I mean, everyone in the industry knows Lisa Fischer. 1147 01:07:55,405 --> 01:07:58,625 [FISCHER] I wasn't deep in search of a record deal. 1148 01:07:58,784 --> 01:08:02,755 It was just one of those things that just blossomed, 1149 01:08:02,913 --> 01:08:05,382 you know, and I was really fortunate. 1150 01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:09,295 ♪ How can I 1151 01:08:09,461 --> 01:08:12,214 ♪ Ooh 1152 01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:24,644 I just... I think she is a freak of nature 1153 01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:27,814 that I've never seen before. 1154 01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:30,858 [VOCALIZING] 1155 01:08:31,024 --> 01:08:35,575 - ♪ How can I ease - [VOCALIZING] 1156 01:08:35,737 --> 01:08:40,368 And the Grammy goes to... Lisa Fischer, "How Can I Ease the Pain?" 1157 01:08:40,534 --> 01:08:45,540 - ♪ How can I ease - ♪ How can I ease the 1158 01:08:45,705 --> 01:08:49,050 ♪ Oh, pain, baby 1159 01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:51,962 I have to thank Luther Vandross. That's the first thing I have to do. 1160 01:08:52,129 --> 01:08:54,552 Without him, none of this would have been possible for me. 1161 01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:59,641 She has her own Grammy. She has her own recording contract with Elektra Records. 1162 01:08:59,803 --> 01:09:02,022 [VOCALIZING] 1163 01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:04,148 It's different when you're singing background for someone, 1164 01:09:04,307 --> 01:09:06,435 you know, because you're so into making them happy, 1165 01:09:06,601 --> 01:09:08,353 making sure that they have what they need. 1166 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,648 But then, once you're doing your own thing, 1167 01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:13,134 it's like you have to try to understand what it is you need 1168 01:09:13,191 --> 01:09:15,410 and what's gonna make you happy. 1169 01:09:22,117 --> 01:09:25,212 [APPLAUSE] 1170 01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:28,749 [MAN] Give it up. Lisa Fischer. 1171 01:09:41,303 --> 01:09:43,977 [FISCHER] I was working on a second record and... 1172 01:09:45,265 --> 01:09:46,938 I don't know, it just took too long. 1173 01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,353 It took too long, and there was this window, 1174 01:09:49,519 --> 01:09:50,862 and it just took too long. 1175 01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:57,077 I just don't think anyone knew what to do with me. 1176 01:09:57,819 --> 01:10:00,038 I don't think I knew what to do with me. 1177 01:10:00,197 --> 01:10:03,076 That's something I never really understood, 1178 01:10:03,241 --> 01:10:06,245 just the business part of it. 1179 01:10:08,038 --> 01:10:10,336 [AUSTIN] It takes a tremendous amount of energy 1180 01:10:10,498 --> 01:10:14,173 to be a solo artist and a tremendous amount of ego to want to do that. 1181 01:10:16,004 --> 01:10:18,803 And she's never had that kind of ego. 1182 01:10:20,842 --> 01:10:22,560 [ALEXANDER] I think there is a psychology behind it. 1183 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:25,017 I think most background singers will agree 1184 01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:27,729 that we're not really good self-promoters. 1185 01:10:27,891 --> 01:10:29,643 You know, the industry is for those who put themselves 1186 01:10:29,809 --> 01:10:31,777 on display and are willing to play the game, 1187 01:10:31,937 --> 01:10:33,939 and some people aren't. 1188 01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:39,654 [ZANES] In a strange way, the gulf between the lead singer 1189 01:10:39,819 --> 01:10:43,449 and that group of backup singers couldn't be wider. 1190 01:10:43,615 --> 01:10:46,243 You're going into a group format 1191 01:10:46,409 --> 01:10:49,538 where you sacrifice individuality 1192 01:10:49,704 --> 01:10:52,503 in order to arrive at that blend. 1193 01:10:52,666 --> 01:10:57,547 And the blend is something that's not just infectious for the listener. 1194 01:10:57,712 --> 01:11:02,434 It's... it's the transformative experience for the singer. 1195 01:11:02,592 --> 01:11:06,847 And some people just wanna stay there. 1196 01:11:08,431 --> 01:11:10,024 [STING] Real musicians, 1197 01:11:10,183 --> 01:11:12,277 there's a spiritual component to what they do. 1198 01:11:12,435 --> 01:11:15,359 It's got nothing to do with worldly success. 1199 01:11:15,522 --> 01:11:19,868 Their music is much more of an inner journey. 1200 01:11:20,026 --> 01:11:23,656 Any other success is just cream on the cake. 1201 01:11:23,822 --> 01:11:25,699 [VOCALIZING] 1202 01:11:25,865 --> 01:11:28,493 There's this idea that you can go on American Idol 1203 01:11:28,660 --> 01:11:30,628 and suddenly become a star, 1204 01:11:30,787 --> 01:11:33,711 but you may bypass the spiritual work 1205 01:11:33,873 --> 01:11:35,875 that you have to do to get there, 1206 01:11:36,042 --> 01:11:40,468 and if you bypass that, then your success will be wafer thin. 1207 01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:44,055 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 1208 01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:52,560 [JULIA WATERS] People lose the heart of a lot of it 1209 01:11:52,726 --> 01:11:55,195 because they haven't grown up with, you know, 1210 01:11:55,353 --> 01:11:58,106 having to go through that, what I call wood shedding, 1211 01:11:58,273 --> 01:12:01,368 having to really say, "OK, let me focus in on... 1212 01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:04,370 this is what we need to do." 1213 01:12:12,662 --> 01:12:14,130 [HARMONIZING ENDS] 1214 01:12:14,289 --> 01:12:16,291 There's a budget right now, in every... 1215 01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,881 every recording budget that says "for tuning." 1216 01:12:19,044 --> 01:12:22,218 And that's, you know, how many hours are allowed for tuning. 1217 01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:25,600 And I said, "What's that?" "Oh, we have to tune all the vocals." 1218 01:12:25,759 --> 01:12:27,602 "Well, why don't they sing in tune?" 1219 01:12:27,761 --> 01:12:31,186 "Well, it just takes too much time and it's too hard." 1220 01:12:31,348 --> 01:12:33,646 And so they just sing and then they tune 'em all. 1221 01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:35,310 And that's ridiculous to me. 1222 01:12:35,477 --> 01:12:36,854 Please welcome Kylie Minogue. 1223 01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:40,024 [CHEERING] 1224 01:12:40,190 --> 01:12:43,820 Well, good evening, everyone. How you feeling? 1225 01:12:43,985 --> 01:12:45,865 [HILL] Actually, I've gotten a lot of criticism. 1226 01:12:46,029 --> 01:12:48,248 I've done a couple of gigs I thought I would get, 1227 01:12:48,406 --> 01:12:51,034 just get away with, you know. And I even put a wig on. 1228 01:12:51,201 --> 01:12:54,080 I put, like, a straight-hair wig. Like, on this Jay Leno gig, 1229 01:12:54,245 --> 01:12:57,920 no one's gonna know it's me. And then I get these tweets from fans, like, 1230 01:12:58,083 --> 01:13:01,303 "How could you do this? You're singing in front of... behind her, 1231 01:13:01,461 --> 01:13:03,930 and, you know, you go from Michael to..." 1232 01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:07,093 And like just criticism, and I'm like, "How did you even know that was me?" 1233 01:13:07,258 --> 01:13:11,263 [LAUGHS] But I'm, like, right in the transitional stage here. 1234 01:13:11,429 --> 01:13:14,649 I am not at a position where I can turn down everything, 1235 01:13:14,808 --> 01:13:16,776 because all of these things as an artist 1236 01:13:16,935 --> 01:13:19,654 are really expensive and my dreams are huge. 1237 01:13:19,813 --> 01:13:24,114 So I have been doing some background singing on the side. 1238 01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:25,492 [♪ STEVIE WONDER: "HOW SWEET IT IS"] 1239 01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:29,373 ♪ I want to stop and thank you with this now 1240 01:13:29,531 --> 01:13:34,662 ♪ How sweet it is to be loved by you 1241 01:13:34,828 --> 01:13:37,581 ♪ Oh, yes, it is, yeah 1242 01:13:37,747 --> 01:13:39,795 ♪ How sweet it is 1243 01:13:39,958 --> 01:13:43,337 [WONDER] With Judith, I knew that she had an incredible voice. 1244 01:13:43,503 --> 01:13:47,849 I know that she sang in church, and it was a really wonderful thing 1245 01:13:48,007 --> 01:13:50,681 when I heard her songs. 1246 01:13:50,844 --> 01:13:54,189 I said, "You're gonna do something." 1247 01:13:54,347 --> 01:13:59,649 ♪ How sweet it is to be loved by you 1248 01:14:02,230 --> 01:14:05,359 [HILL] Stevie is very excited about me as an artist as well. 1249 01:14:05,525 --> 01:14:08,119 He's really shown that. 1250 01:14:08,278 --> 01:14:11,282 But it's just an honor to just be able to... I don't really care. 1251 01:14:11,448 --> 01:14:14,327 I mean, I just love singing with him regardless, you know. 1252 01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:16,494 [WONDER] As much as you're enjoying this, 1253 01:14:16,661 --> 01:14:20,837 don't let your dream disappear, 1254 01:14:20,999 --> 01:14:23,752 because you wanna be with me or be around me. 1255 01:14:23,918 --> 01:14:26,046 You gotta step out there and do your thing. 1256 01:14:26,212 --> 01:14:28,931 ♪ Sing, dah-dah-dah-dah-dah 1257 01:14:29,090 --> 01:14:30,933 [VOCALIZING] 1258 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,063 [WONDER] People singing together 1259 01:14:35,221 --> 01:14:38,976 has always meant to me people coming together. 1260 01:14:39,142 --> 01:14:43,568 [MAXWELL] What moves people is the humanness of it, not the machine. 1261 01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:44,930 That's not the same as someone 1262 01:14:44,981 --> 01:14:47,301 singing and playing to you and putting their heart into it. 1263 01:14:47,317 --> 01:14:50,491 And great background singers, you know, it's moving. 1264 01:14:53,198 --> 01:14:55,238 [AUSTIN] For a long time, I'd say a good five years, 1265 01:14:55,283 --> 01:14:57,160 you couldn't hear a background on a record. 1266 01:14:57,327 --> 01:14:59,421 You wouldn't hear anybody doing a hum or an "ooh" 1267 01:14:59,579 --> 01:15:03,425 or a "la" or... or an answer line or anything. 1268 01:15:03,583 --> 01:15:05,335 Nothin'. 1269 01:15:05,502 --> 01:15:08,881 [VOCALIZING] 1270 01:15:09,047 --> 01:15:11,891 [WOMAN] There's not as much work for background singers, 1271 01:15:12,050 --> 01:15:14,269 because different ones have called me over the years 1272 01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:16,350 and just asked me, "Are you working? 1273 01:15:16,513 --> 01:15:19,517 'Cause my phone hasn't been ringing." 1274 01:15:19,682 --> 01:15:21,855 [VOCALIZING] 1275 01:15:26,272 --> 01:15:29,697 A lot of home studios, people have their families singing, 1276 01:15:29,859 --> 01:15:31,299 doing all the vocal parts themselves. 1277 01:15:31,444 --> 01:15:34,744 It's just put a lot of singers out of work. 1278 01:15:34,906 --> 01:15:38,581 [HARMONIZING VOCALS] 1279 01:15:48,628 --> 01:15:49,908 [BOTTI] When you get to the '90s, 1280 01:15:50,004 --> 01:15:53,053 you're starting to see major structural changes. 1281 01:15:53,216 --> 01:15:57,016 The big recording sessions associated with the '70s and the '80s, 1282 01:15:57,178 --> 01:15:59,021 they're not happening anymore. 1283 01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:05,316 [JONES] People didn't want to pay the background singer, 1284 01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:06,918 'cause they don't think they need it. 1285 01:16:06,938 --> 01:16:08,618 They were saying, "Hey, we don't have to... 1286 01:16:08,773 --> 01:16:10,173 We don't have to write that check," 1287 01:16:10,316 --> 01:16:12,865 not realizing that was the sound. 1288 01:16:13,027 --> 01:16:17,248 And that's why Joe Cocker and The Stones and Rod Stewart, 1289 01:16:17,407 --> 01:16:21,537 David and all of these wonderful people, they have their singers there. 1290 01:16:21,703 --> 01:16:24,877 They need those background singers. 1291 01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:32,385 [LASLEY] You do tend to wonder, is there a cutoff point 1292 01:16:32,547 --> 01:16:37,178 or is there a way to leave this occupation or this life 1293 01:16:37,343 --> 01:16:39,311 without dying of heartbreak or, you know, or just, 1294 01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:43,145 is it the biggest jones of all? 1295 01:16:45,184 --> 01:16:49,280 You get hooked on music, you are fucked, you know. 1296 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:54,445 [SOFT STATIC SOUND FROM MICROPHONE] 1297 01:16:56,571 --> 01:17:00,201 When you get into a relationship, you know, there's an energy. 1298 01:17:01,659 --> 01:17:07,132 It's like when you see a married couple walking into a room. 1299 01:17:08,291 --> 01:17:12,762 You see them part, but you still feel that string that binds them. 1300 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,970 I never really had that. 1301 01:17:19,218 --> 01:17:23,064 So I always felt like I belonged to everyone, you know, 1302 01:17:23,222 --> 01:17:25,316 a part of my heart, 1303 01:17:25,475 --> 01:17:27,944 a part of who I am belongs to everybody. 1304 01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,821 So, I mean, sometimes when I, you know, 1305 01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:33,199 talk to my friends who have children or who are married, 1306 01:17:33,358 --> 01:17:35,736 I think to myself, 1307 01:17:35,902 --> 01:17:39,873 "Hmm, maybe I should've gotten married and had some kids 1308 01:17:40,031 --> 01:17:44,753 and done all that kinda thing." But... I'm good. 1309 01:17:44,911 --> 01:17:48,791 [LAUGHS] I am so good. 1310 01:17:54,462 --> 01:17:57,341 [BOTTI] Lisa is so incredibly versatile, 1311 01:17:57,507 --> 01:18:01,182 then you almost, you're so talented, you almost get like option anxiety. 1312 01:18:01,344 --> 01:18:03,472 Well, what do I do? Should I stay with the R&B thing? 1313 01:18:03,638 --> 01:18:05,515 Well, R&B was so big at the time. 1314 01:18:05,682 --> 01:18:07,901 Then you're up against Whitney and Mariah and blah and blah and blah. 1315 01:18:08,059 --> 01:18:10,419 Then, maybe I should do a little bit more of the rock thing. 1316 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,694 And her phone rings and it's Mick Jagger and he says, "Join The Stones," 1317 01:18:13,856 --> 01:18:17,906 and that's a hard thing to, you know, to turn away from, you know. 1318 01:18:18,069 --> 01:18:19,537 That's a... [LAUGHS] 1319 01:18:19,696 --> 01:18:21,096 [♪ ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"] 1320 01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:25,085 ♪ Rape, murder 1321 01:18:25,243 --> 01:18:29,464 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1322 01:18:29,622 --> 01:18:31,545 ♪ Rape... 1323 01:18:31,708 --> 01:18:34,086 [JAGGER] It's great to have the female voice, you know, 1324 01:18:34,252 --> 01:18:37,426 otherwise it's me, me, me, me and me and then it's a bit of Keith and... 1325 01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:41,764 But still, you know, it's still the same kind of masculinity. 1326 01:18:41,926 --> 01:18:45,351 And then when you can get someone like Lisa to step out 1327 01:18:45,513 --> 01:18:47,732 and you've got a whole new voice out there. 1328 01:18:47,890 --> 01:18:50,985 [VOCALIZING] 1329 01:18:56,774 --> 01:18:58,401 [FISCHER] It's like, I could hear how Mick was singing it 1330 01:18:58,568 --> 01:19:02,072 and I, you know, react to him a certain way. 1331 01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,832 ♪ My very life today 1332 01:19:04,991 --> 01:19:08,495 Like nobody else was in the room. It was freeing in a weird way. 1333 01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:10,288 ♪ Gimme shelter 1334 01:19:10,455 --> 01:19:14,585 ♪ Or I'm gonna fade away 1335 01:19:14,751 --> 01:19:16,799 [AUSTIN] Why isn't she promoting herself 1336 01:19:16,961 --> 01:19:18,759 and why is she out with The Rolling Stones all the time? 1337 01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:20,719 It's because she's comfortable doing that. 1338 01:19:20,882 --> 01:19:23,180 She loves doing it and she's got it all to herself. 1339 01:19:23,342 --> 01:19:24,343 She's not stupid. 1340 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:27,684 ♪ It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1341 01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:32,064 ♪ It's just a shot away Shot away, shot away 1342 01:19:32,226 --> 01:19:35,776 I wanna be able to walk the streets and not have to worry about, you know, 1343 01:19:35,938 --> 01:19:38,191 putting on sunglasses and hiding out and, you know, 1344 01:19:38,357 --> 01:19:41,236 the tits up in the air and, you know... I just... I... 1345 01:19:41,402 --> 01:19:45,657 I'm just... I'm not feeling that. I'm just not feeling that. 1346 01:19:45,823 --> 01:19:49,999 ♪ It's just a kiss away It's just a kiss away 1347 01:19:50,161 --> 01:19:54,211 ♪ Kiss away, kiss away Kiss away 1348 01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:58,173 [FISCHER] Some people will do anything to be famous, 1349 01:19:58,336 --> 01:20:02,512 and then there are other people who just will sing. 1350 01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:08,100 It's not about anything except being in this special space 1351 01:20:08,262 --> 01:20:13,484 with people, and that is really the higher calling to me. 1352 01:20:13,643 --> 01:20:16,738 [CROWD CHEERING] 1353 01:20:19,273 --> 01:20:22,152 [SOFT PIANO MUSIC] 1354 01:20:34,789 --> 01:20:38,089 [CLAYTON] Seemingly, every time I get ready to do something really big, 1355 01:20:38,251 --> 01:20:41,255 or something really, really wonderful, something would just happen 1356 01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:43,969 that would just knock me to my knees, you know. 1357 01:20:45,424 --> 01:20:47,973 You don't want everybody to know you got this at Pick 'n Save. 1358 01:20:48,135 --> 01:20:49,182 Ha! 1359 01:20:49,345 --> 01:20:51,097 I said, "God, what is this? 1360 01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:54,609 Am I not supposed to be doing this? If I'm not supposed to be doing this, 1361 01:20:54,767 --> 01:20:57,020 then show me I'm not supposed to be doing this, 1362 01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:59,689 and I won't do it, you know." But I never was shown. 1363 01:20:59,856 --> 01:21:03,326 - [ALL] Amen. - Praise the Lord. 1364 01:21:05,194 --> 01:21:07,663 And I just stay cool, stay humble, 1365 01:21:07,822 --> 01:21:10,371 stay beautiful and just do the work. 1366 01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:13,036 [CLAYTON] Thank you. Thank you so much. 1367 01:21:13,327 --> 01:21:17,207 [BOTTI] If somebody says, "You're gonna become an international superstar, " 1368 01:21:17,373 --> 01:21:19,501 of course everyone would spend the money and do that. 1369 01:21:19,667 --> 01:21:22,261 But if you're living in a little place and you have no money 1370 01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:24,140 and you got a little bit saved and they say, 1371 01:21:24,255 --> 01:21:25,848 "You gotta risk all of that 1372 01:21:26,007 --> 01:21:28,351 and you still might be working McDonald's tomorrow," 1373 01:21:28,509 --> 01:21:33,857 I think you gotta be absolutely crazy to go after it like that, yeah. 1374 01:21:34,015 --> 01:21:36,643 [SOFT PIANO MUSIC] 1375 01:21:46,819 --> 01:21:48,571 [LENNEAR] It was just... 1376 01:21:48,738 --> 01:21:52,493 I came to a fork in the road and music wasn't on it. 1377 01:21:52,658 --> 01:21:56,128 [SPEAKING SPANISH] 1378 01:21:56,287 --> 01:21:59,882 Meaning, "I'm sorry, I'm very sorry, or..." 1379 01:22:00,041 --> 01:22:05,218 [LENNEAR] I've been teaching Spanish for ten to 15 years. 1380 01:22:05,379 --> 01:22:09,225 ♪ Maybe you're where you're supposed to be 1381 01:22:11,761 --> 01:22:15,311 ♪ Safely kept within the crowd 1382 01:22:15,473 --> 01:22:17,601 [LENNEAR] It's always been a missing link. 1383 01:22:17,767 --> 01:22:21,647 ♪ You're looking for a reason to break free 1384 01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:27,410 It's been a regret that I didn't just hang in there, 1385 01:22:27,568 --> 01:22:31,744 especially when I see my contemporaries progressing in their musical lives. 1386 01:22:31,906 --> 01:22:35,080 ♪ Try to let it out 1387 01:22:37,078 --> 01:22:39,172 ♪ So much worse 1388 01:22:39,330 --> 01:22:42,049 [LENNEAR] I never said it wasn't for me, never. 1389 01:22:42,208 --> 01:22:47,339 If I did, I was lying to myself. It's always been for me, always. 1390 01:22:47,505 --> 01:22:52,602 Just do it. Maybe that's one way to get rid of that gnawing once and for all. 1391 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,058 ♪ Oh, chance 1392 01:22:55,221 --> 01:22:57,895 ♪ We all need We all need, we all need 1393 01:22:58,057 --> 01:23:01,812 ♪ We all need a little desperation 1394 01:23:02,687 --> 01:23:07,784 Let's have a warm, warm welcome for Miss Judith Hill. 1395 01:23:07,942 --> 01:23:09,785 - [CHEERING] - ♪ Do you want, do you want 1396 01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:10,945 ♪ Do you want 1397 01:23:11,112 --> 01:23:14,707 ♪ Do you want a little inspiration? 1398 01:23:14,865 --> 01:23:17,118 ♪ 'Cause every wound Every wound, every wound 1399 01:23:17,284 --> 01:23:20,754 ♪ Really needs a little desperation 1400 01:23:20,913 --> 01:23:24,042 There's machines that make people stars that don't have talent. 1401 01:23:24,208 --> 01:23:27,929 They don't really sing live. Someone could have done that for Judith, 1402 01:23:28,087 --> 01:23:30,556 but I think what she has is deeper, 1403 01:23:30,715 --> 01:23:34,390 and maybe selling 500 million records is not the best thing for her. 1404 01:23:34,552 --> 01:23:39,058 ♪ Let it out 1405 01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:46,857 ♪ So much worse if you don't try now 1406 01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:50,448 It's more than just leaning on your talent. You gotta be disciplined. 1407 01:23:50,609 --> 01:23:52,156 Gotta get up in the morning. You gotta go do it. 1408 01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:54,162 ♪ Take a chance 1409 01:23:54,321 --> 01:23:56,244 ♪ Take a chance... 1410 01:23:56,407 --> 01:23:59,377 Opportunity's knocking. Open the door. Get going, kiddo. 1411 01:23:59,535 --> 01:24:02,630 ♪ We all need, we all need We all need 1412 01:24:02,788 --> 01:24:06,088 ♪ A little desperation 1413 01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:08,719 ♪ Can I have, can I have Can I have 1414 01:24:08,878 --> 01:24:11,097 [WONDER] In these times that we're living in right now, 1415 01:24:11,255 --> 01:24:13,428 a lot of it is based on so many other things 1416 01:24:13,591 --> 01:24:15,559 that have nothing to do with music. 1417 01:24:15,718 --> 01:24:18,562 ♪ Do you want a little inspiration? 1418 01:24:18,721 --> 01:24:21,645 [WONDER] But, you know, at the end of the day, it's up to you 1419 01:24:21,807 --> 01:24:23,809 to perfect that gift that you've been given. 1420 01:24:23,976 --> 01:24:26,775 Put your spirit into that song. 1421 01:24:26,937 --> 01:24:29,440 Focus on the words that you're singing. 1422 01:24:29,607 --> 01:24:32,986 Get into the experience of what you're singing about 1423 01:24:33,152 --> 01:24:34,950 and sing your heart out. 1424 01:24:35,112 --> 01:24:40,494 ♪ A little desperation ♪ 1425 01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:42,957 [LOVE] Every time you get up, you might fall down, 1426 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,043 but you gotta get back up again, you know, 1427 01:24:45,206 --> 01:24:48,301 and believe me when I tell you, it's not easy, especially at my age. 1428 01:24:48,459 --> 01:24:51,679 I didn't start my solo career till I was 40. 1429 01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:54,841 Tonight marks the 25th anniversary 1430 01:24:55,007 --> 01:24:57,135 of a favorite holiday tradition here at The Late Show. 1431 01:24:57,301 --> 01:24:58,803 Ladies and Gentlemen, please welcome 1432 01:24:58,969 --> 01:25:01,472 the remarkable Darlene Love. 1433 01:25:01,639 --> 01:25:04,392 - [PIANO MUSIC PLAYING] - [INAUDIBLE SINGING] 1434 01:25:09,146 --> 01:25:11,148 [♪ DARLENE LOVE: "LEAN ON ME"] 1435 01:25:11,315 --> 01:25:16,412 ♪ Sometimes in our lives 1436 01:25:16,570 --> 01:25:20,495 ♪ We all have pain 1437 01:25:20,658 --> 01:25:26,210 ♪ We all have sorrow 1438 01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:31,378 ♪ But if we are wise 1439 01:25:31,544 --> 01:25:35,014 ♪ We know that there's 1440 01:25:35,172 --> 01:25:38,893 ♪ Always tomorrow 1441 01:25:39,051 --> 01:25:42,430 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1442 01:25:42,596 --> 01:25:45,850 ♪ When you're not strong 1443 01:25:46,016 --> 01:25:49,486 ♪ And I'll be your friend 1444 01:25:49,645 --> 01:25:54,321 ♪ I'll help you carry on 1445 01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:56,577 [MIDLER] And now it is my honor and pleasure 1446 01:25:56,735 --> 01:25:59,238 to induct into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1447 01:25:59,405 --> 01:26:03,080 and about time too, Miss Darlene Love. 1448 01:26:03,242 --> 01:26:10,000 - [APPLAUSE] - ♪ Somebody to lean on 1449 01:26:10,166 --> 01:26:14,637 ♪ Please follow your pride 1450 01:26:14,795 --> 01:26:17,048 [LOVE] Thank you, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1451 01:26:17,214 --> 01:26:21,219 I am truly honored and overwhelmed. 1452 01:26:21,385 --> 01:26:24,184 ♪ Tomorrow 1453 01:26:24,346 --> 01:26:27,566 [WOMAN] So many of us, Merry Clayton, the Waters, 1454 01:26:27,725 --> 01:26:29,523 we stand on her shoulders. 1455 01:26:30,644 --> 01:26:32,112 [LOVE] My mother told this one lady, 1456 01:26:32,271 --> 01:26:34,694 "Oh, my daughter's in New York now. She's on Broadway. 1457 01:26:34,857 --> 01:26:38,452 And they go, "What daughter?" Said, "The one that used to clean your house." 1458 01:26:39,195 --> 01:26:41,289 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1459 01:26:41,447 --> 01:26:44,542 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ Lean on me 1460 01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:48,079 ♪ And I'll be your friend 1461 01:26:48,245 --> 01:26:53,968 ♪ I'll help you carry on 1462 01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:55,673 - ♪ For - ♪ Lean on me 1463 01:26:55,836 --> 01:26:59,215 - ♪ It won't be long - ♪ Lean on me 1464 01:26:59,381 --> 01:27:02,351 ♪ Till I'm gonna need 1465 01:27:02,509 --> 01:27:07,015 ♪ Somebody to lean on 1466 01:27:08,849 --> 01:27:11,272 [ALEXANDER] I've seen artists come and go, 1467 01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:15,065 and I look around on stage and it's the same players. 1468 01:27:15,231 --> 01:27:18,155 They're in the game, or they've stayed in the game 1469 01:27:18,317 --> 01:27:20,866 and they're legends and they're amazing. 1470 01:27:21,028 --> 01:27:23,872 ♪ Lean on me 1471 01:27:24,031 --> 01:27:27,251 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ When you're not strong 1472 01:27:27,409 --> 01:27:31,255 - ♪ I'll be your friend - ♪ I'll be your friend 1473 01:27:31,413 --> 01:27:36,590 - ♪ I'll help you carry on - ♪ Yes, I will 1474 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:40,677 [VEGA] Singing background, it helped me find me. 1475 01:27:40,839 --> 01:27:44,844 It got back to the love of music. 1476 01:27:45,010 --> 01:27:50,312 ♪ Somebody to lean 1477 01:27:50,474 --> 01:27:53,353 - ♪ Lean on me - ♪ Lean on me 1478 01:27:53,519 --> 01:27:56,819 - ♪ When you're not strong - ♪ When you're not strong 1479 01:27:56,981 --> 01:28:00,406 - ♪ I'll be your friend - ♪ And I'll be your friend 1480 01:28:00,567 --> 01:28:06,040 - ♪ I'll help you carry on - ♪ Yes, I will, yes, I will 1481 01:28:06,198 --> 01:28:10,874 - ♪ For it won't be long - ♪ It won't be long 1482 01:28:11,036 --> 01:28:13,130 ♪ Till I'm gonna need 1483 01:28:13,289 --> 01:28:15,712 [JOHN] We have a gift. We can hear a song 1484 01:28:15,874 --> 01:28:17,968 and find our part and harmonize with it. 1485 01:28:18,127 --> 01:28:19,845 Children on the corner's doing it. 1486 01:28:20,004 --> 01:28:23,258 Little babies do it when they learn to sing. 1487 01:28:23,424 --> 01:28:26,473 - [VOCALIZING] - It's the gift coming out. 1488 01:28:26,635 --> 01:28:30,685 Now, what you do with the gift is you. 1489 01:28:30,848 --> 01:28:34,523 - [CHEERING, APPLAUSE] - [LOVE] Like the old days. 1490 01:28:34,685 --> 01:28:37,905 OK, next session. 1491 01:28:38,522 --> 01:28:39,523 [♪ DARLENE LOVE: "A FINE, FINE BOY"] 1492 01:28:39,690 --> 01:28:40,691 [LOVE] My boy! 1493 01:28:40,858 --> 01:28:42,701 [MUSIC PLAYS] 1494 01:28:42,860 --> 01:28:44,954 I've got so much love in my heart for him, 1495 01:28:45,112 --> 01:28:48,366 and I just don't feel like me when he's not around. 1496 01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:51,502 Yeah, there are boys and there are boys, 1497 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:55,005 - but he's a... - ♪ Fine, fine boy 1498 01:28:55,164 --> 01:28:58,384 ♪ I wanna tell the world about the boy I love 1499 01:28:58,542 --> 01:29:01,466 ♪ Just the kind of guy I've been dreaming of 1500 01:29:01,628 --> 01:29:04,677 ♪ He's so sincere When he holds me tight 1501 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,266 ♪ When I'm blue He makes me feel all right 1502 01:29:11,472 --> 01:29:14,851 ♪ He even takes me places and buys me things 1503 01:29:15,017 --> 01:29:17,987 ♪ But love is more important than a diamond ring 1504 01:29:18,145 --> 01:29:21,399 ♪ All I wanna do is stay by his side 1505 01:29:21,565 --> 01:29:26,241 ♪ Take care of him and I'll be satisfied 1506 01:29:26,403 --> 01:29:29,202 ♪ 'Cause he's got a sweet, sweet kiss 1507 01:29:29,365 --> 01:29:31,333 ♪ And a true, true heart 1508 01:29:31,492 --> 01:29:34,416 ♪ Something tells me that we'll never part 1509 01:29:34,578 --> 01:29:37,457 ♪ He's got a sweet, sweet kiss and a true, true heart 1510 01:29:37,623 --> 01:29:39,967 ♪ And he's fine, fine, fine 1511 01:29:40,125 --> 01:29:43,095 ♪ No, he's fine, fine, fine 1512 01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:46,757 ♪ Let me tell you He's a fine, fine boy 1513 01:29:49,927 --> 01:29:53,147 - ♪ Yeah - ♪ Fine, fine boy 1514 01:29:53,305 --> 01:29:57,105 ♪ I know he's fine And he's mine 1515 01:29:57,267 --> 01:30:01,613 - ♪ He's a fine, fine boy - ♪ Yeah, he's mine 1516 01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:05,697 - ♪ He's fine - ♪ He's a fine, fine boy 1517 01:30:05,859 --> 01:30:08,487 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 1518 01:30:08,654 --> 01:30:16,209 ♪ He's mine He's a fine, fine boy ♪ 1519 01:30:24,086 --> 01:30:27,465 - Whoo! - [CROWD CHEERING] 1520 01:30:27,631 --> 01:30:29,975 [SPRINGSTEEN] Darlene Love! 123565

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