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[MAN] It... It's a bit
of a walk, you know,
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from, you know, back by
the drummer over here.
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That walk to the front is...
is complicated.
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[ELEVATOR RATTLES]
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[SPRINGSTEEN]
Singing background remains
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a somewhat unheralded
position, you know.
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- So people make that leap.
- [PIANO PLAYING]
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[SINGERS HARMONIZING]
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[WOMAN] So, what you guys
do on that part?
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♪ I'll help you carry on
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[VOCALIZING]
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It's almost more of
a mental leap than...
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than just the
physical act of singing.
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It's a conceptual leap,
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and if you can comfortably
come up with it, you know,
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then you may
find a spot out there.
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♪ Carry on for...
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[SPRINGSTEEN] But I know
tremendous backup singers
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who just aren't comfortable
in that position.
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You gotta have that narcissism,
you gotta have that ego.
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- [SINGING INDISTINCTLY]
- [MAN] So shall we do it?
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[SPRINGSTEEN] It can be
a pretty long walk.
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- One, two, three!
- [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
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[INHALES]
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[♪ LOU REED: "WALK ON THE WILD SIDE"]
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[WOMAN] There's a power
to what it is that we do.
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No one till right now has
publicly acknowledged it,
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but people love to see
the background singers.
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I mean, when you think about
Lou Reed, "Walk On The Wild Side,"
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you know, that iconic song with the line
that makes a lot of people uncomfortable
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because it says "colored girls."
But what is he... what is he referencing
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when he says, "And the colored
girls say do-do-do-do-do?"
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The fact that there's
a power to these women
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that stand on stage
and sing with these guys.
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[♪ TALKING HEADS: "SLIPPERY PEOPLE"]
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Backup singers just bring so
much more life to the situation.
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When a voice opens up,
there comes the life.
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That's when it's a
person-to-person connection.
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♪ What about the time
you were rolling over?
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♪ You fall on your face
and you must be having fun
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♪ Backsliding
How do you do?
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You don't hold on necessarily
to your individual vocal persona.
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♪ God help us
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'Cause you're trying
to get your persona
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to blend and mesh with the other voices.
That's awesome.
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- ♪ What's the matter with him?
- ♪ He's all right
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- ♪ How do you know?
- ♪ The Lord won't mind
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- ♪ Don't play no games
- ♪ He's all right
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♪ Love from the bottom
to the top
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- ♪ Turn like a wheel
- ♪ He's all right
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♪ See for yourself...
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[WOMAN] There's something that
happens when you lock in with somebody
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and all the harmonics ping,
and, I mean,
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if you don't like that,
what do you like?
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♪ Cool down
Stop acting crazy
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♪ They're gonna leave
and we'll be on our own
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I could... I could be different people,
a chameleon, you know.
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It's just like you could change up.
You're never bored.
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[MUSIC CONTINUES]
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I'm a part of the sisterhood.
I got to earn this.
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It wasn't just a dream that I had
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I actually got to sing
these songs and sing on key.
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- ♪ Like a wheel
- ♪ He's all right
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- ♪ See for yourself
- ♪ The Lord won't mind
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- ♪ We're gonna move
- ♪ Right now
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♪ Turn like a wheel
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[MAN] As a background singer,
they would like you to come in,
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make things sound great,
take very little credit...
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and go home quickly.
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♪ It's all right
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♪ The Lord won't mind
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♪ Right now
Turn like a wheel
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- ♪ Inside a wheel
- [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
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- [PIANO PLAYING]
- [WOMAN] Thank you, Jesus.
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Thank you, Father.
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♪ I will enter His gates
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♪ With thanksgiving in my heart
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♪ I will enter His courts with praise
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God gave us the ability
to create, didn't he?
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- [CONGREGATION] Yes, he did.
- OK.
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Today we're gonna pin
this down to music.
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♪ He has made me glad
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♪ I will rejoice for He has made me glad
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I see these kids doing this
slide, I said, "Oh, child."
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He think he got that
from, uh... James Brown.
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I said, "Oh, that came
from one of my pastors."
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♪ He has made me glad
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♪ I will rejoice for
He has made me glad
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- My father was a minister.
- My father was a...
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- My father was a...
- Pastor's daughter.
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- Isn't that cliché?
- That's how I was actually
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- introduced to music.
- [WOMAN] I started as a four-year-old.
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[WOMAN 2]
All through grammar school.
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♪ I will say this is the day
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You come up learning the part
that your voice actually fits in.
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Nobody tells you that's how singers
learn how to do background.
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Hallelujah, glory, glory.
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- [APPLAUSE]
- Thank you, Lord.
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Thank you, Lord.
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God gave me this talent
and I intend to use it.
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And that's what my life
has really been all about,
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trying to make a success
of the gift that I have.
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[WOMAN] Darlene Love is the one
that's the cause of all of this.
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Darlene Love and Fanita
James, The Blossoms.
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They were the first black
background singers
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- working in the studios.
- [MUSIC PLAYS]
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♪ Silver and gold
Silver and gold
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♪ Everyone's searching
for silver and gold...
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When we first got into recordings,
it was totally white.
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♪ You'll never find comfort
in silver and gold...
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[WOMAN] They were all white girls,
and they were very tasteful.
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They could do arm movements
and they could, you know,
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get in and go...
go to the microphone
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and come out of the microphone,
but that was about it.
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♪ Silver and gold, everyone's searching
Suppose silver and gold
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[LOVE] Because it was white singers.
We call them the readers.
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They couldn't do nothing without
that music sitting right in their face.
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People would see us walk in.
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They wondered what
we were doing there.
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They handed us our music and
we took it like we was pros too,
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like we would really read this.
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[MAN] Then as you got
more into the music,
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people would want background
singers that were free enough
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to put feeling in what
they were singing.
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Not saying that
those singers back then
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didn't have feeling, but they were
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committed to what
they saw on the paper.
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♪ In silver and gold ♪
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[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
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- ♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro
- ♪ Oh, yeah
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♪ Shimmy, shimmy to and fro...
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[WOMAN] The song that was
coming from them was so raw.
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That's what it...
it was so raw, and so real,
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that it was hard to deny it.
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
It's the dance of the day
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
It's new this day
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♪ Shimmy shimmy's
gonna help us too
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♪ With mama and papa
and you know who
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♪ Shimmy shimmy in my soul
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♪ Shimmy shimmy
We'll never grow old
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[LOVE] Now this is a surprise!
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This is history.
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None of us have sung
together in 30, 40 years.
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I was 15 when I first met them.
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- Ain't that something? Fifteen.
- That's not funny.
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That's not funny.
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But we were really white
before you got in,
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- and then you added it...
- We had a sweet sound.
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She brought guts and...
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that bottom gospel thing
and it made it perfect.
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- ♪ Shimmy shimmy
- ♪ Oh, yeah
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[WRIGHT]
They made that platform theirs.
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The Blossoms made it theirs,
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and when they came in,
every producer in California
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and everywhere else, that's the sound
they wanted. That was from The Blossoms.
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- [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
- [MUSIC CONTINUES]
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All you had to do is tell them
in what direction you were headed,
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and they took you there.
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[♪ BOBBY PICKETT: "MONSTER MASH"]
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- See when we had to sound white?
- Yeah, uh-huh.
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[♪ FRANK SINATRA: "THAT'S LIFE"]
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[♪ BETTY EVERETT: "THE SHOOP SHOOP SONG"]
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♪ I met him on a Monday
and my heart my stood still
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♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron
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[WOMAN] What was unique about
The Blossoms, we could change our sound.
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[WOMAN] We worked with people
from Buck Owens to James Brown.
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♪ Yes, my heart stood still
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♪ Yes, his name was Bill
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♪ And when he walked me home
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♪ Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron ♪
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[LAUGHING] That was perfect,
without even rehearsing.
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[WRIGHT] The amazing thing about
Darlene and Fanita and Jean
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is that they weren't afraid
of anybody else that did what they did.
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And if that producer
asked for a particular person
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that could do something,
Darlene would say,
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"That's not what I do,
but I know a girl that can do it."
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And that's how she'll get in,
and that's how Merry got in.
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- [MUSIC PLAYS ON RADIO]
- [WOMAN] Can you turn off the radio?
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There...
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I mean, how could you not have music on,
Morgan, in the Merry Clayton car?
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- [WOMAN] I know, right?
- That's just...
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That's not even logical to me.
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[MAN] See, it's much better
for us to add the music later.
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I know it, but I'm just saying,
Morgan, how could you...
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How could you logically not
have a diva have her music on?
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I don't get that.
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[PIANO MUSIC PLAYS]
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[MAN] Merry Clayton was always
the lead background singer,
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but she was always a little
set apart from that group.
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♪ Well, I am a sister
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- ♪ Who can sing
- [CROWD RESPONDING]
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♪ I am a sister who can sing
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♪ Oh, but if I die
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♪ And my soul be lost
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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[WRIGHT] I started going
to summer school with Merry,
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and she'd start singing down
the street, and I'd go like,
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"This girl is amazing."
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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♪ Said nobody's fault
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♪ Nobody's fault but mine
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♪ I said that no one's fault
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- ♪ If I die...
- [WRIGHT] She had no, uh,
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no hidden agendas about it.
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She just, "That's what I do."
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♪ Oh, if I die
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♪ And my soul be lost, yeah
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♪ Nobody's fault
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♪ But mine
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♪ Nobody's fault ♪
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[CLAYTON] Ray Charles.
He was the only artist
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that my father would
allow us to go and see,
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and I'd stand at the end of the
stage with my hand under my chin.
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I'd say, "Mm-hmm, I could do this.
I'm gonna be a Raelette one day."
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I willed myself to be a Raelette.
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Now here are the Raelettes
to help us from this portion on.
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- [♪ RAY CHARLES: "WHAT'D I SAY"]
- Mm!
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[CLAYTON] So I was sitting
at home one day,
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and I got a call from Billy Preston.
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"This Bill, what are you doing?"
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"Putting some clothes away."
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"You gotta drop it and you
have to come and sing for Ray."
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Oh
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♪ When you see me in misery
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♪ Come on, baby
See about me now
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♪ No, it don't matter
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[CLAYTON] And, of course, you know,
I was totally full of myself by then.
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I knew the whole spectrum of what you
were supposed to do as a singer.
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♪ See the girl
with the red dress on
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♪ She can filly dog all night long
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[CLAYTON]
But I didn't know anything
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about being an entertainer.
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- ♪ Hey
- ♪ Hey
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- ♪ Ho
- ♪ Ho
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- ♪ Hey, ho
- ♪ Hey, ho
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♪ Oh, it's all right
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♪ You know it's all right, baby
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[CLAYTON] He said,
"Yes, you're a lead singer,
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but you're singing with
three other ladies, Sister Merry.
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So we're gonna teach you
how to sing
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- with three other people."
- ♪ You know it's all right
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♪ It's all right
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[MAN] He's the minister.
The Raelettes are the choir.
247
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He brings that same church format
to playing popular music.
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Yet he's singing about sex.
249
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake that thing
250
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- ♪ Hey, baby
- ♪ Shake that thing
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[WONDER] Can you imagine
"What'd I Say" that I said already,
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without kind of an answer to that?
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♪ Mmm
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♪ Oooh
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♪ Uhh... uhh...
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[LAUGHS]
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake it, baby
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- ♪ Shake that thing
- ♪ Shake that thing ♪
259
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He did a song called
"Together Again."
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Oh, Lord, I could not
find the second part.
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I couldn't hear it.
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I did not hit the note,
he took his finger
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and banged out my note
on the piano,
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and 5,000 people
were in the audience,
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five... huge show in
Madison Square Garden somewhere.
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Bang, bang, bang, bang.
He banged out this note.
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After that, I remembered everything.
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I was not gonna be made
to look like a fool. [LAUGHS]
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home
- ♪ Yeah, let's go home
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home
- ♪ Go home, baby
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- ♪ Baby, let's go home ♪
- Oh!
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[SONG ENDS]
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[WOMAN] A lot of background
singers are just background singers.
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They don't wanna do all the drama that
accompanies trying to be a solo artist.
275
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Actually, very interesting, if you're
talking about background singers,
276
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because Lisa made recordings
as a solo artist
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and she's a brilliant entertainer.
She's really funny.
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Sings her butt off.
Could sing alone all day long,
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but doesn't particularly want to.
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[CELL PHONE ALARM RINGS]
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[SIGHS] Hola.
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I don't wanna go to school.
[LAUGHS]
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[SINGING SCAT]
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[FISCHER] I remember when my mom
took me to kindergarten.
285
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I told the teacher, it's like,
"I wrote a song," right?
286
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"I wanna sing it for the class."
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She's like, "Oh, yay, good."
I just wouldn't stop.
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She had to stop me.
Now she's like, "That was fun."
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[CONTINUES SINGING SCAT]
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[LAWRY] Being with Lisa
is really inspiring,
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because she's a monster musician.
She just doesn't really talk about it.
292
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I mean, she's as good as it gets.
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[SCAT CONTINUES]
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[MAN] Everyone knew
who Lisa Fischer was.
295
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She was the talk of the town
at the time.
296
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It was strange for me to actually see
her standing next to two other singers.
297
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It was weird for me.
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She's an incredible artist that
stands in front of that room,
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in front of everyone, and demands their
attention in a really graceful way.
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[SCAT CONTINUES]
301
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I love melodies.
302
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I'm... I'm in love with the...
303
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the sound vibration and...
304
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and what it does with other people.
305
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It's familiar, but it's so special
306
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and you're just so happy
when you get there.
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And you try to stay there
for as long as you can.
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[CONTINUES SCAT]
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[AUSTIN] She's the
empress of that world,
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and, you know, it might not
look like she's ego'd out,
311
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but it takes a lot of ego to decide
you're gonna take that position.
312
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'Cause there's a lot of background
singers out there, and she's held...
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She's held that fort
down for a long time.
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[SCAT CONTINUES]
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[FISCHER] For me,
singing is about a sharing.
316
00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:05,195
It's never a competition.
But there's this other energy sometimes
317
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that I see going on that just
makes me insane, you know.
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Gee, who can I call to introduce me
to so and so and such and such,
319
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:15,416
but it just... I don't know,
something about that feels slimy to me.
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I don't know why.
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[FISCHER VOCALIZING SOFTLY]
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♪ Yeah ♪
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[CHUCKLES]
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To me, there's no more heavenly
instrument than the voice.
325
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You can be a great player and you can
play things that really move people,
326
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but the voice is the one thing
that we all are born with.
327
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I mean, there's so many great singers
who are such a massive presence
328
00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:53,527
on so many rock records, people that we
don't necessarily know their names,
329
00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:56,993
but that had a huge impact.
330
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I remember, um, yeah, there
was a Phil Spector special on.
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Um, maybe '65-ish.
332
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♪ Every evening
when the sun goes down
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- ♪ Whoo
- [SPECTOR] Hold it. Cut.
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[LASLEY] And Darlene Love and The
Blossoms were doing this song
335
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that Phil was playing piano on.
336
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♪ Every morning
when the sun goes down
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- ♪ Whoo
- ♪ Whoo
338
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♪ I lay my head
on the pillow down
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And I was like 16 maybe.
It just went, like, pow!
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That's what you're gonna do.
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- [MAN] Here we go.
- Hey.
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- Hi, Darlene.
- Robert.
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00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:41,450
How about, uh, "Christmas
(Baby Please Come Home)."
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ Snow coming down
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ I'm watching it fall
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♪ Christmas
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[LOVE] Phil Spector
was the one that started
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with the Wall of Sound.
He wanted everybody to know
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00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:57,303
it was a Phil Spector session,
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00:20:57,465 --> 00:20:59,684
not a Darlene Love session
or a Crystals session.
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It was a Phil Spector session.
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♪ They're ringing a song
353
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- ♪ Christmas
- ♪ What a happy sound
354
00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:11,989
They sound so young. Well, they are.
I was 18. I am now 70.
355
00:21:14,065 --> 00:21:15,533
[SPRINGSTEEN] The Spector records...
356
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:17,615
and it's funny, 'cause
though that was a sound
357
00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:21,247
we tried to capture ourselves
for many, many years.
358
00:21:21,406 --> 00:21:25,752
And did not, because we didn't realize
it was the sound of youth,
359
00:21:25,910 --> 00:21:27,708
of very young people.
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00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,332
And here Darlene
not only had
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00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:32,171
the incredible personality,
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00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:35,633
but she was a vocal powerhouse.
She captures...
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00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:39,720
Whatever it is, she captures
that particular sound, you know.
364
00:21:39,882 --> 00:21:41,850
Amazing, isn't it?
365
00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:46,356
[LAUGHS] I was talented
and didn't know it.
366
00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:49,108
When we went in to do
"He's a Rebel" I knew it was gonna be
367
00:21:49,267 --> 00:21:51,520
for a group he had in New York.
368
00:21:51,686 --> 00:21:53,438
And I went, "This song ain't
gonna do nothin' no way.
369
00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:55,151
Let's just go in, take the money."
370
00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:57,738
And it was my first lead voice.
371
00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,493
[♪ "HE'S A REBEL"]
372
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,996
♪ See the way he
walks down the street
373
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:05,659
♪ Watch the way he shuffles his feet
374
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,668
♪ My, he holds his head up high
375
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,330
♪ When he goes walking by
376
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,670
Darlene did a lot of ghosting
for records that came out
377
00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:15,194
with other people's names on them.
378
00:22:15,209 --> 00:22:18,008
♪ Not just one of the crowd
379
00:22:19,589 --> 00:22:22,058
[LOVE] The Crystals were out
on the road with Gene Pitney,
380
00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:24,969
and the record was climbing
the charts, going to number one
381
00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:27,639
and they had never
heard the song before.
382
00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:30,900
♪ He's a rebel and
he'll never be any good
383
00:22:31,059 --> 00:22:34,438
♪ He's a rebel 'cause he never
ever does what he should
384
00:22:34,604 --> 00:22:38,734
♪ But just because he doesn't
do what everybody else does
385
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:43,155
♪ That's no reason why
I can't give him all my love
386
00:22:43,321 --> 00:22:46,996
It's pretty debilitating
to the spirit, I think,
387
00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:51,413
to sit at home and watch
the song that you sang,
388
00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:55,254
and there's someone else lip-synching
and no one knows that you did it.
389
00:22:55,416 --> 00:23:00,013
♪ That's no reason why
we can't share a love
390
00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,764
♪ He is always good to me...
391
00:23:01,923 --> 00:23:04,221
[LOVE] What hurt is when people
hear it on the radio
392
00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:06,512
and they go, "Wow, The Crystals.
That's a great song."
393
00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:10,727
And they sitting there telling me that,
not knowing I did it.
394
00:23:12,975 --> 00:23:15,069
After the success of
"He's A Rebel,"
395
00:23:15,228 --> 00:23:16,980
that's when I said, "OK...
396
00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,648
He knows how to make hit songs,
397
00:23:18,815 --> 00:23:20,408
so now I need to sign with him."
398
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,239
First of all he changed my
name from Darlene Wright
399
00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,575
to Darlene Love,
and my first record
400
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:26,364
was supposed to be
"He's Sure The Boy I Love."
401
00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:29,284
So we go into the studio.
I'm signed with him now.
402
00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:31,919
Everything is legal. We record
"He's Sure The Boy I Love,"
403
00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,501
and I'm tootling down
the street couple of months later
404
00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:37,292
and I hear the disc jockey say,
"Well, the new record by The Crystals."
405
00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:41,133
And I'm going, "Crystals? What'd he do?
Fly them in?" He didn't tell us.
406
00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:47,636
No, it was my voice on "He's Sure
The Boy I Love." So I was really pissed.
407
00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:53,604
[MAN] You couldn't fit two stars
in the room at the same time,
408
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:56,940
so Phil Spector really
kept her in a box.
409
00:23:57,103 --> 00:23:59,197
The best material that she was
putting out
410
00:23:59,355 --> 00:24:01,198
wasn't even coming
out under her name.
411
00:24:01,357 --> 00:24:03,860
[SANTOS] What did you think
after this song became a hit?
412
00:24:04,026 --> 00:24:06,495
Mad.
413
00:24:06,654 --> 00:24:09,658
'Cause this was
a Darlene Love record.
414
00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:17,875
I'm always amazed at how many
backup vocalists I've heard
415
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,216
and I've encountered who kill me,
who I hear 'em and I think,
416
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,302
"Man, you're as good as Chaka
Khan." There's a lot of them.
417
00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,684
You won't believe it, man.
Like, um...
418
00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:31,597
Tata Vega, who is an
unbelievably great vocalist
419
00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:34,982
and is up there with Aretha. I mean,
and... and I'm looking at that,
420
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,690
and I'm thinking to myself,
"What're you doing?"
421
00:24:37,852 --> 00:24:40,230
♪ Speak, Lord
422
00:24:41,731 --> 00:24:44,405
♪ Speak to me
423
00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:49,072
♪ Oh, speak Lord
424
00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:52,208
♪ Won't you speak to me?
425
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:55,415
[VEGA]
I just loved music, is all.
426
00:24:55,578 --> 00:24:56,670
It's all I wanted to do.
427
00:24:56,829 --> 00:25:00,254
♪ I was so lost
428
00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:03,841
I was 16 and I said,
"I wanna go to California.
429
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:09,055
I don't wanna go to school. I wanna be
a famous singer. " Very selfish.
430
00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:12,437
And my dad said, "All right."
431
00:25:12,595 --> 00:25:15,769
[HARMONIZING VOCALS]
432
00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:24,820
You had more of a opportunity
on the west coast.
433
00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:28,031
You had exposure.
434
00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:31,198
- Us growing up here in LA...
- [WOMAN] Mm-hmm.
435
00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:34,117
- ...was really...
- Hollywood always
436
00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:35,956
right down the street.
437
00:25:36,118 --> 00:25:37,961
So we had serious advantage.
438
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,872
Especially with the Motown people.
439
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,256
- With the Motown...
- Yes.
440
00:25:41,415 --> 00:25:43,417
Oh, my God. But I remember
441
00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:45,552
too coming up, uh,
we would do the long sessions
442
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,964
and we would be going
home in the morning.
443
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:50,053
- That's right.
- And people would be
444
00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:51,263
just going to work.
445
00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:53,177
[HARMONIZING VOCALS CONTINUE]
446
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:57,770
Oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder.
He was it for me.
447
00:25:57,932 --> 00:26:01,653
Tata Vega, uh... incredible voice.
448
00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:04,155
Somebody introduced me,
you know, "This is Tata Vega."
449
00:26:04,313 --> 00:26:07,192
"Mm-hmm. Nice to meet you."
And he kept going. I went,
450
00:26:07,358 --> 00:26:09,907
"OK, I gotta do something.
There's a piano."
451
00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:12,163
The only four little teeny
chords I know.
452
00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:14,699
And I heard this girl
doing all these riffs and like,
453
00:26:14,865 --> 00:26:16,242
I said, "Oh, my God," you know.
454
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:20,380
He came back.
He said, "You sound like me."
455
00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:22,961
Is that her? Is that the
same person? It's like...
456
00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:24,421
Yeah!
457
00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:27,884
I just loved music is all.
458
00:26:28,045 --> 00:26:29,342
It's all I wanted to do.
459
00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:30,506
[♪ TATA VEGA: "LET'S MAKE A BETTER WORLD"]
460
00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:32,266
♪ Oh, listen
461
00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:36,146
♪ The world we know
was built on skill
462
00:26:36,304 --> 00:26:38,978
♪ That alone don't count
463
00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:40,517
[CHUCKLES]
464
00:26:40,683 --> 00:26:43,027
♪ Ah, you know without the sweat
465
00:26:43,185 --> 00:26:47,406
♪ And toil of mind
it wouldn't be worth a dime
466
00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:50,068
[SPRINGSTEEN] It goes back, like I say,
to the church call and response.
467
00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:53,534
♪ Pull a fish from the water
to the people from the water
468
00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:57,075
♪ To the river to the bank
to the happy to the sad
469
00:26:57,241 --> 00:26:59,039
♪ Through the first
through the last
470
00:26:59,201 --> 00:27:02,250
There's that guy out front,
testifying,
471
00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:06,964
and then there's sorta the community
behind him, you know, amen'ing.
472
00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:10,300
♪ Everybody, let's sing
Sing, sing
473
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:14,263
♪ Well, everybody
Let's sing sing, sing, sing
474
00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:16,519
[SPRINGSTEEN] That was sort of
the backup sound
475
00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:20,227
that came straight out of gospel
and the church and was secularized.
476
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:23,188
That was a sound
of worldly knowledge. [LAUGHS]
477
00:27:23,351 --> 00:27:26,696
[SOUL MUSIC PLAYS]
478
00:27:28,648 --> 00:27:31,071
[WOMAN] Ike Turner, oh my
goodness. Ike and Tina Turner.
479
00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:33,073
I just... I couldn't believe
480
00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:36,079
he asked me if I wanted to start
working right away.
481
00:27:36,238 --> 00:27:38,866
And I said,
"Well, yes, of course."
482
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:41,206
But little did I know
he meant that week.
483
00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:43,497
[SOUL MUSIC CONTINUES]
484
00:27:47,291 --> 00:27:51,216
[LENNEAR] I think we were
the first action figures of R&B,
485
00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:53,507
[LAUGHS] The Ikettes,
486
00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:56,392
the Ike and Tina Turner Review.
487
00:28:00,471 --> 00:28:02,724
[MIDLER] The girls were
absolutely sensational.
488
00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:04,437
Tina was a force of nature,
of course,
489
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,227
but they were no slouches either.
490
00:28:06,394 --> 00:28:08,522
They were fantastic.
491
00:28:13,401 --> 00:28:15,745
It was what, peace, love
and happiness and, you know,
492
00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:18,497
women burning their bras,
you know, women's lib,
493
00:28:18,656 --> 00:28:23,628
and the timing was just right
for that way to present yourself.
494
00:28:23,786 --> 00:28:27,507
[SOUL MUSIC PLAYS]
495
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:36,382
[♪ TINA TURNER: "BOLD SOUL SISTER"]
496
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:39,428
- ♪ Oh!
- ♪ Oh, no
497
00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:41,846
[BOYD] Ike Turner saw
himself as a pimp,
498
00:28:42,012 --> 00:28:46,313
and he saw his backup singers,
even his wife...
499
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:48,603
- ♪ I do what I wanna do
- ...as the women
500
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:50,146
who worked for him, his hos.
501
00:28:50,312 --> 00:28:51,404
♪ Do what you wanna
502
00:28:51,564 --> 00:28:52,611
♪ When you wanna
503
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:54,650
♪ Now do your thing, soul sister
504
00:28:54,817 --> 00:28:58,492
[LENNEAR] He made sure
that you had a certain look
505
00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:01,248
and that you were able
to walk a certain way
506
00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:03,159
and dance a certain way.
507
00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:05,669
♪ Now I'm gonna try
508
00:29:05,828 --> 00:29:07,671
[MABRY] There are still
artists right now
509
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:10,128
that view a backup
singer as eye candy.
510
00:29:10,291 --> 00:29:13,044
Personally, that's not backup singing.
That's just playing a role.
511
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:14,302
♪ Let me see you
512
00:29:14,462 --> 00:29:16,385
[WOMAN] There's one artist
that I've worked with.
513
00:29:17,131 --> 00:29:20,726
I just get chills when I think
about how I just was so demoralized,
514
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:24,890
um, at the office.
We were basically naked.
515
00:29:25,055 --> 00:29:28,901
Dress code:
"Make guys excite."
516
00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:30,527
♪ Let me see it
517
00:29:31,353 --> 00:29:32,479
♪ Let me see you
518
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:34,986
♪ You and I
519
00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:38,110
[LENNEAR]
You know, I tried to look nice
520
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,030
and I tried to carry myself
in a decent way,
521
00:29:41,197 --> 00:29:44,576
but how it comes across, I mean,
I don't set out to say,
522
00:29:44,742 --> 00:29:47,416
"I'm going to be
the sex symbol tonight."
523
00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:49,296
[MAN]
But you posed in Playboy.
524
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,132
[SIGHS]
525
00:29:55,377 --> 00:29:58,301
There was something in
Playboy, yes, there was.
526
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:10,480
- [SONG ENDS]
- [APPLAUSE]
527
00:30:16,649 --> 00:30:20,699
[LOVE] The English rock scene
was just a... a phenomenon.
528
00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:22,363
They were trying
to sound black.
529
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:25,033
Most all of them tried
to sound black.
530
00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:26,879
And the only way they
could get that sound,
531
00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:28,911
they had to use us
to get that sound.
532
00:30:29,078 --> 00:30:32,958
Like Led Zeppelin, for example.
Robert Plant or Joe Cocker even.
533
00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:34,124
[♪ JOE COCKER: "LEARNING TO LIVE TOGETHER"]
534
00:30:34,291 --> 00:30:36,134
♪ Once while traveling
535
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:38,341
♪ Across the sky
536
00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:44,140
♪ This lovely planet
caught my eye
537
00:30:44,301 --> 00:30:47,225
Many years ago,
when I was singing with Ray,
538
00:30:47,388 --> 00:30:52,189
and I saw this guy contorting
in the front row of this concert.
539
00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:53,443
So I'm standing like this,
540
00:30:53,602 --> 00:30:55,024
and I'm telling the rest
of the girls through my teeth,
541
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,155
"Who is that guy?
What's wrong with him?"
542
00:30:57,314 --> 00:30:58,266
♪ Until we die
543
00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:09,161
♪ We're just learning to live together
544
00:31:09,326 --> 00:31:12,421
♪ Learning to live together
545
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:18,053
♪ Learning to live together till we die
546
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,679
But what I loved about
working with Joe
547
00:31:20,838 --> 00:31:23,933
is that he let us be ourselves.
548
00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:27,720
In England, they were like,
"Go for it.
549
00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:30,015
Give us all you have."
550
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,400
That... it was the reason for
the innovation of rock and roll.
551
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,483
♪ Oooh
552
00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:40,115
♪ Ooh-hoo
553
00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:43,574
- ♪ Ooh
- ♪ Whoo!
554
00:31:44,778 --> 00:31:46,325
[LENNEAR]
He gave us free rein,
555
00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:49,037
and everybody's face
would light up, you know.
556
00:31:49,199 --> 00:31:51,122
♪ Whoo!
557
00:31:51,285 --> 00:31:53,333
♪ Ooh
558
00:31:53,495 --> 00:31:55,497
And somebody would
start singing something,
559
00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,632
or someone would
start playing something
560
00:31:57,791 --> 00:31:59,634
and everybody just...
561
00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:06,642
♪ Until we die
562
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,519
♪ Well, we're learning to live together
563
00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:13,933
And then when I got to A&M, I was coming
down the stairs from Lou's office.
564
00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:17,478
Joe was coming on the lot from
that front gate and he said,
565
00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:19,363
"There she bloody is."
566
00:32:19,521 --> 00:32:21,899
He said, "I want you to
work on all of my records."
567
00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:25,903
♪ Learning to live together
568
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:27,572
At any moment, you would see
569
00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:29,832
James Taylor
coming down the hallway,
570
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,415
or you'd see Carole coming out,
saying, "Come sing with me."
571
00:32:33,577 --> 00:32:36,626
♪ Till we die ♪
572
00:32:40,501 --> 00:32:42,754
Let me in, honey, to my other home.
573
00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,256
Whoo!
574
00:32:46,423 --> 00:32:50,769
[♪ THE ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"]
575
00:32:54,056 --> 00:32:56,309
What a great studio.
576
00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:59,524
Boy, did we have some
times in this studio.
577
00:32:59,687 --> 00:33:02,782
[MUSIC CONTINUES]
578
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:09,489
So it was like very late at
night and I was very,
579
00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:11,123
you know, a little pregnant.
580
00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,329
Had curlers and the whole thing
in my hair,
581
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:15,369
getting ready to go to bed.
And we got a call
582
00:33:15,536 --> 00:33:20,133
"Merry, there's a group of guys
in town called Rolling...
583
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:23,089
The Rolling somebodies
and they're from England,
584
00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:27,007
and they need somebody
that will sing with them."
585
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:30,517
They picked me up
with silk pajamas on,
586
00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:34,306
a mink coat, and a
Chanel scarf on my head.
587
00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:37,941
[MAN] We said, "It'd be wonderful if
a woman sang this part about,
588
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,569
that I'd written about rape,
murder and all this.
589
00:33:40,728 --> 00:33:43,231
It was in the middle of the
night and we thought,
590
00:33:43,397 --> 00:33:45,115
"Well, we would love to
have a woman sing this part."
591
00:33:45,274 --> 00:33:47,402
I didn't know her from Adam.
592
00:33:47,568 --> 00:33:48,990
Then she turned up
in her curlers.
593
00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:50,746
She was in bed
and she got outta bed.
594
00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,407
And, you know, it was
a kind of raunchy part to sing.
595
00:33:53,574 --> 00:33:55,417
I said, "What?
596
00:33:57,453 --> 00:34:00,548
Rape, murder?
It's just a shot away?"
597
00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:05,678
I started to sing: "it's just a shot
away, just a shot away" with Mick.
598
00:34:05,836 --> 00:34:08,965
She sings the lyrics right along me,
and with a lot of personality,
599
00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:10,348
which is what was needed.
600
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:12,805
♪ Don't you worry
601
00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:16,723
♪ War, children
602
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:20,519
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
603
00:34:20,684 --> 00:34:26,737
What I liked was that she could sing.
She was able to be Merry.
604
00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:28,867
She didn't have to bring it down.
605
00:34:29,026 --> 00:34:31,700
He said, "You wanna do another one?"
I said, "Sure, I'll do another one."
606
00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:34,285
I mean, she just did it,
like, couple of times, you know.
607
00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:37,668
So I said to myself,
"Mm-hmm, I'm gonna do another
608
00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:40,329
and I'm gonna blow them
outta this room."
609
00:34:41,997 --> 00:34:46,423
I went in again and I did that pass
on the part that says,
610
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:49,338
♪ Rape, murder
Just a shot away
611
00:34:49,505 --> 00:34:51,553
So I had to go up another octave.
612
00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,683
[SHOUTING]
613
00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:57,472
♪ Rape, murder
614
00:34:57,638 --> 00:35:01,563
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
615
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,480
♪ Rape, murder, yeah
616
00:35:05,646 --> 00:35:09,822
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
617
00:35:09,983 --> 00:35:13,203
- ♪ Rape, murder
- [MAN] Whoo!
618
00:35:13,362 --> 00:35:17,583
♪ It's just a shot away
It's a just shot away
619
00:35:17,741 --> 00:35:21,120
♪ Yeah, yeah
620
00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:23,380
- ["GIMME SHELTER"]
- [JAGGER] You know, you do these things
621
00:35:23,539 --> 00:35:24,540
at sort of two in the morning,
622
00:35:24,706 --> 00:35:27,209
and then you come in the next day
and you go, "Bloody hell, that's good."
623
00:35:27,376 --> 00:35:31,301
Yeah. I don't hear
a hand clap. [LAUGHS]
624
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:34,433
[JONES] Everybody just tells me,
"You have to bring everything down."
625
00:35:34,591 --> 00:35:36,935
So when the rock and roll
world came and said,
626
00:35:37,094 --> 00:35:40,598
"No, we want you to sing,"
it saved us.
627
00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:43,938
It saved us. Saved our lives.
628
00:35:45,102 --> 00:35:47,730
[ROCK MUSIC PLAYS]
629
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:58,540
Lisa, let's practice that.
Lisa, let's do that.
630
00:35:58,699 --> 00:36:00,701
Let's just...
just do the coda.
631
00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:05,419
- [HUMMING]
- So Vinnie, from the coda.
632
00:36:05,581 --> 00:36:08,630
- Just the coda.
- [SOFT ROCK PLAYS]
633
00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:14,298
♪ Mercury falling
634
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,093
[VOCALIZING]
635
00:36:17,259 --> 00:36:19,637
♪ I rise from my bed
636
00:36:23,098 --> 00:36:25,271
♪ Collect my thoughts together
637
00:36:29,271 --> 00:36:32,320
♪ But have to hold my head
638
00:36:36,236 --> 00:36:41,288
- ♪ Seems that she's gone
- ♪ Gone
639
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:44,545
♪ Leaving me too soon
640
00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:47,252
During "The Hounds of Winter,"
I just indicated to Lisa
641
00:36:47,414 --> 00:36:49,837
that she should, you know,
vocalize and do something
642
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,300
to evoke the spirit
of loneliness.
643
00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,136
[VOCALIZING]
644
00:36:56,298 --> 00:36:59,051
And out comes this voice,
you know, amazing,
645
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:02,729
extraordinary, ghostly voice.
646
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:05,311
So every time she's
performed that with me,
647
00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:07,852
I've asked her to do that.
648
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:13,023
[STING] Lisa, give... you can
give me more than that.
649
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:14,863
Really? OK.
650
00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:17,027
[STING]
Give me something to play with.
651
00:37:17,194 --> 00:37:19,993
- Let me reel you in.
- [LAUGHS]
652
00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:23,785
- [IMITATES FISHING REEL]
- [GUITAR PLAYING]
653
00:37:23,951 --> 00:37:26,830
And I'm also intensely
proud of my band.
654
00:37:26,995 --> 00:37:31,592
My greatest pleasure is to stand back
and let them do what they can do.
655
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,593
[BOTTI] And they kick into this song
called "Hounds of Winter,"
656
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,254
and they go to this out vamp.
657
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,139
And Sting was cool
enough to say, "All right, go.
658
00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:40,346
Put a spotlight on her
and just turn her loose."
659
00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:43,934
- [VOCALIZING]
- [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS]
660
00:38:20,299 --> 00:38:24,850
- [CROWD CHEERING]
- Lisa Fischer.
661
00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:28,892
[STING] That's a powerhouse
voice, you know, and...
662
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,856
I think of her as a star.
663
00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:33,862
She's a star.
664
00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:37,070
[HUMMING]
665
00:38:40,694 --> 00:38:43,664
She puts her whole
self into it and then
666
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:47,122
there's just something totally
transcendent that happens.
667
00:38:47,284 --> 00:38:51,209
[VOCALIZING]
668
00:38:54,041 --> 00:38:57,966
[FISCHER] You're a little feather,
669
00:38:58,128 --> 00:39:01,098
and somebody just said...
[BLOWS] and you just go.
670
00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:09,473
You just go and you never fall.
671
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,983
You never hit your head.
You just kinda land.
672
00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:14,770
That's what it feels like to me.
673
00:39:20,484 --> 00:39:22,703
[MAXWELL] The human voice is
the most pure expression
674
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,033
coming from your own being.
675
00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:28,576
There's nothing between your soul
and your ability and your body and them.
676
00:39:28,742 --> 00:39:31,916
It's not being camouflaged by a trumpet
or a saxophone or guitar.
677
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,083
It's pure, and that's why
they're so sensitive about it,
678
00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:37,046
because they're putting it out there.
679
00:39:41,546 --> 00:39:42,513
[VOCALIZING ENDS]
680
00:39:42,923 --> 00:39:44,846
[FISCHER] Everything's a mess.
Sorry.
681
00:39:45,008 --> 00:39:49,263
Uh... everything's a mess.
It's just a mess.
682
00:39:49,429 --> 00:39:54,026
Uh, these are old gold albums
I haven't put up yet. Um...
683
00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:57,939
That's something from Tina Turner's tour
that was a gift from her.
684
00:39:58,105 --> 00:40:02,030
This is, um, an old poster
of Luther Vandross that I love.
685
00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:04,240
I met him right after that tour.
686
00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:07,748
When I auditioned for him,
I walk into the room
687
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,284
and he's sitting around the
piano and there's this, um,
688
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,578
container with some
fried chicken in it.
689
00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:15,714
I had to giggle.
I was just like, "Yeah!"
690
00:40:15,872 --> 00:40:18,250
- ♪ And the eagle
- ♪ And the eagle
691
00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:20,966
- ♪ And the eagle flies
- Oh...
692
00:40:21,128 --> 00:40:22,471
[FISCHER] And he goes...
693
00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:25,803
♪ And the eagle flies ♪
694
00:40:25,966 --> 00:40:27,934
"Sing this for me."
695
00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:29,720
And I would sing something to him.
696
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:34,733
He's like, "OK, now can you
give that to me with more air?"
697
00:40:34,891 --> 00:40:37,815
And that was like, "More air?"
I was like, "OK."
698
00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:42,108
'Cause, you know, nobody was talking
about those subtleties, you know.
699
00:40:42,274 --> 00:40:44,447
[LASLEY] A lot of his approach
was breath and air.
700
00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:47,658
Sometimes the finesse of a note,
like... No turning back
701
00:40:47,821 --> 00:40:50,495
Like, the way you got
off a note... Back
702
00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:54,207
- One, two...
- ♪ And there's a rose
703
00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:57,589
I sounded just like that yesterday
when I was understudying the note.
704
00:40:57,747 --> 00:40:59,340
- [LAUGHING]
- [WOMAN] He really did.
705
00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:01,884
[VANDROSS] You know what I'm saying?
I was up there.
706
00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:04,216
- [WOMAN] He was up there.
- It was me and John Glenn.
707
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:08,559
[FISCHER] After we were done singing,
he says, "Well, " he says,
708
00:41:08,717 --> 00:41:11,266
"if you can dance,
you've got this gig."
709
00:41:11,428 --> 00:41:14,147
And I was like, "Yay!"
And then I was like, "Uh-oh."
710
00:41:15,432 --> 00:41:18,402
Wait a minute.
Oh, I've got two left feet.
711
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,154
Lisa.
♪ Are you ready now?
712
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:23,156
- Hoo You sound nice
713
00:41:23,315 --> 00:41:25,067
- ♪ Say it twice
- ♪ Hoo, hoo
714
00:41:25,233 --> 00:41:27,486
♪ Are you ready?
Won't you tell me, doll?
715
00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,781
- ♪ Yeah
- ♪ Tell me and then tell me again
716
00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:32,699
- ♪ Hoo, hoo
- ♪ Now do it...
717
00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:36,040
[FISCHER] He knew how
to pull each gift together
718
00:41:36,203 --> 00:41:41,050
and make this beautiful...
piece of jewelry.
719
00:41:41,208 --> 00:41:43,802
- ♪ All the way
- ♪ All
720
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,305
[VANDROSS] You know, when I
was a kid buying records
721
00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:49,967
by The Shirelles, by Aretha Franklin,
by Dionne Warwick,
722
00:41:50,133 --> 00:41:53,182
one of the first things
that appealed to me
723
00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:57,521
were the background vocals,
and that remained with me.
724
00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:01,732
Luther was a background singer
and a jingle singer in New York.
725
00:42:01,895 --> 00:42:04,239
Back in those days,
Luther was very heavy
726
00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:07,571
and wore three-piece suits,
sweating like a pig,
727
00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:09,907
singing like an angel.
728
00:42:10,070 --> 00:42:12,243
[SPRINGSTEEN] Luther Vandross,
when I first met Luther Vandross,
729
00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:15,204
I went down to Philadelphia,
David Bowie...
730
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:19,292
David Bowie invited me down,
1973, to hear...
731
00:42:19,454 --> 00:42:21,877
He was recording
"Young Americans."
732
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,964
And I had one record out
and he cut a couple of my songs,
733
00:42:25,126 --> 00:42:27,720
and so I was tremendously excited
734
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,052
and I took the bus
to Philadelphia.
735
00:42:30,215 --> 00:42:33,139
And I went in the studio and I met David
and I met the band.
736
00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:35,429
And Luther Vandross
was one of the backup singers
737
00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:38,439
in David... David Bowie's
Young Americans band.
738
00:42:38,598 --> 00:42:40,976
My God, I can trot on that.
739
00:42:41,142 --> 00:42:43,565
♪ Time, giving it
740
00:42:43,728 --> 00:42:45,901
- ♪ Giving it
- ♪ Keeping it back
741
00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:48,237
That's cool. That's cool.
OK, next one.
742
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,949
Gotta do it this way
to get it... One, two...
743
00:42:51,111 --> 00:42:53,409
[SPRINGSTEEN] Well, it was... [SINGS]
It was just fabulous, you know.
744
00:42:53,572 --> 00:42:57,167
And it was David Bowie's
soul record, in that sense,
745
00:42:57,325 --> 00:43:01,546
and he called on those voices that were
rooted in the church to bring that in,
746
00:43:01,705 --> 00:43:04,709
because they bring a world
with them, a world with them.
747
00:43:04,874 --> 00:43:08,048
♪ All night
748
00:43:08,211 --> 00:43:10,964
♪ All night
She wants the young American
749
00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:13,725
♪ Young American
Young American
750
00:43:13,883 --> 00:43:15,726
♪ She wants
the young American
751
00:43:17,721 --> 00:43:20,850
I believe that, you know,
the role of the backup singer
752
00:43:21,016 --> 00:43:22,609
evolves as music evolves.
753
00:43:22,767 --> 00:43:25,987
[AUSTIN] Music was becoming more
complicated and richer
754
00:43:26,146 --> 00:43:27,989
and more interesting
in the '70s,
755
00:43:28,148 --> 00:43:30,492
and so the backgrounds
became more sophisticated.
756
00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:34,905
It just became more than vocals.
It was the music.
757
00:43:35,071 --> 00:43:37,824
♪ All night
758
00:43:37,991 --> 00:43:40,414
♪ All night
She wants a young American
759
00:43:40,577 --> 00:43:41,999
♪ Young American
760
00:43:42,162 --> 00:43:43,642
[LESLEY] And you
find yourself singing
761
00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:45,961
what the background singers sang,
762
00:43:46,124 --> 00:43:47,967
as much as what the lead singer sang.
763
00:43:48,126 --> 00:43:51,175
♪ Mama's got cramps
and look at my hands shake
764
00:43:51,338 --> 00:43:53,966
♪ I heard the news today
Oh, boy
765
00:43:54,132 --> 00:43:56,351
♪ I got a suite
and you got defeat
766
00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:59,513
♪ Ain't there a woman
I can sock on the jaw?
767
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:01,932
♪ Ain't there a man
who can say no more?
768
00:44:02,098 --> 00:44:04,692
♪ Ain't there a child I can
hold without judging?
769
00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:07,445
♪ Ain't there a pen that will
write before they die?
770
00:44:07,604 --> 00:44:10,153
♪ Ain't you proud that
you've still got faces?
771
00:44:10,315 --> 00:44:14,866
♪ Ain't there one damn song
that can make me
772
00:44:15,028 --> 00:44:18,077
♪ Break down and cry?
773
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,494
- ♪ All night
- ♪ All night
774
00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:26,837
[WOMAN] You know, when youthink about the history of pop music
775
00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:30,002
and all the memorable hooks
that people sing along with,
776
00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:32,591
they're singing with us
most of the time,
777
00:44:32,754 --> 00:44:36,634
because that's what we do on records.
We come in and sing the hooks.
778
00:44:37,676 --> 00:44:38,677
[ROCK MUSIC PLAYING]
779
00:44:38,843 --> 00:44:40,845
[♪ GEORGE HARRISON: "WAH WAH"]
780
00:44:54,693 --> 00:44:58,072
♪ Wah-wah
781
00:44:58,238 --> 00:45:01,333
♪ You give me a wah-wah
782
00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:06,455
[LENNEAR] That show was
just something that was cosmic.
783
00:45:08,415 --> 00:45:10,713
If you were there to experience it,
784
00:45:10,875 --> 00:45:14,220
it will be something
you'll take to the grave.
785
00:45:14,379 --> 00:45:18,350
♪ Wah-wah
786
00:45:24,806 --> 00:45:27,184
[JONES] Claudia Lennear
had that exposure,
787
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:32,732
and then the next big moment came
for her with, um, The Rolling Stones.
788
00:45:32,897 --> 00:45:36,492
[JAGGER] And Claudia Lennear, she was
like the really hot one of the...
789
00:45:36,651 --> 00:45:38,449
of the Ikettes, you know.
790
00:45:38,611 --> 00:45:42,115
She was a really great dancer,
very hot, beautiful girl.
791
00:45:42,282 --> 00:45:45,752
[AUSTIN] There were a few young
ladies in the background world
792
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:49,540
who were trying to get to the
leading men as quickly as possible.
793
00:45:51,958 --> 00:45:55,588
[LENNEAR] You know, Mick and I
had a very special relationship,
794
00:45:55,754 --> 00:45:58,348
and we used to have so much fun.
795
00:45:58,506 --> 00:46:01,976
We used to have so much fun,
just doing silly things,
796
00:46:02,135 --> 00:46:06,311
dressing in each other's clothes.
Just crazy, wacky stuff.
797
00:46:09,642 --> 00:46:11,815
You know,
Mick has his bad boy image
798
00:46:11,978 --> 00:46:15,107
and David had his androgynous look,
799
00:46:15,273 --> 00:46:18,652
but first and foremost,
they were just all really sweet.
800
00:46:19,277 --> 00:46:21,279
Well, anyway, she must have
enjoyed those times,
801
00:46:21,446 --> 00:46:23,323
because she looked like she was.
802
00:46:26,493 --> 00:46:30,373
♪ I don't need no wah-wah
803
00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:36,970
- ♪ Wah-wah
- ♪ And I know how sweet life can be
804
00:46:37,128 --> 00:46:40,132
[CLAYTON] At that particular time, there
was so much going on in the world,
805
00:46:40,298 --> 00:46:42,926
with the Civil Rights Movement
and the war.
806
00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:46,141
[GREENE] Though there was
so much politically going on,
807
00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,853
you know, you're pretty
insulated from it a lot of times
808
00:46:49,015 --> 00:46:52,019
and you only really find it out
809
00:46:52,185 --> 00:46:53,937
when you get out there
on the road,
810
00:46:54,103 --> 00:46:56,322
the places that you stay,
the people that you talk to.
811
00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:59,530
You're able to see the actual
politics and the culture,
812
00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,293
you know, what's going on
in the culture.
813
00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:09,961
It was weird. It was happy, musically,
but it was a sad time.
814
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,838
[MAN] One, two, three.
815
00:47:12,997 --> 00:47:16,126
[♪ LYNYRD SKYNYRD: "SWEET HOME ALABAMA"]
816
00:47:16,292 --> 00:47:17,635
[MAN] Turn it up.
817
00:47:20,463 --> 00:47:22,306
[CLAYTON] I think Clydie King
called me for that session.
818
00:47:22,465 --> 00:47:25,218
She said, "There's this guy.
His name is Lynyrd Skynyrd. "
819
00:47:25,385 --> 00:47:29,561
I said, "Really?" She said,
"Yes, and he wants to do this song
820
00:47:29,722 --> 00:47:32,020
called 'Sweet Home A...“'
I said, "Alabama?
821
00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,527
Honey, nobody wants to sing
anything about Alabama."
822
00:47:34,686 --> 00:47:37,064
I certainly didn't wanna sing
anything about Alabama.
823
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:40,575
♪ Well, I heard Mr. Young
sing about her
824
00:47:42,402 --> 00:47:45,406
♪ Well, I heard
ole Neil put her down
825
00:47:47,574 --> 00:47:50,373
♪ Well, I hope Neil Young
will remember
826
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:54,998
♪ A southern man
don't need him around
827
00:47:55,164 --> 00:47:57,838
[BOYD] It was a moment
when this idea of black power
828
00:47:58,001 --> 00:48:00,845
had a lot to do with people
defining themselves
829
00:48:01,004 --> 00:48:04,884
based on their own ideas,
as opposed to white overseer's view
830
00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,892
of how one should behave.
831
00:48:07,051 --> 00:48:08,974
We don't give a fuck
about whether or not
832
00:48:09,137 --> 00:48:11,177
white people are offended.
We're gonna do our thing.
833
00:48:11,264 --> 00:48:14,359
♪ Sweet home Alabama
834
00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:20,523
[CLAYTON] My husband was 19
years older than I was.
835
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:24,365
He said, "Oh, you need to sing
'Sweet Home Alabama."'
836
00:48:24,527 --> 00:48:28,703
I said, "Well, why?" He says,
"You'll understand later in life."
837
00:48:28,865 --> 00:48:31,789
He said, "Right now, you don't
understand, Merry. You're young.
838
00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:34,750
You don't... you don't
really understand."
839
00:48:34,913 --> 00:48:40,545
♪ In Birmingham they love
the governor, boo-hoo-hoo
840
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:42,883
♪ Now we all did what could do
841
00:48:44,339 --> 00:48:46,262
That's what we were doing,
we were living.
842
00:48:46,424 --> 00:48:50,019
We were living the moment,
living that emotion, creating.
843
00:48:50,178 --> 00:48:54,024
It was basically like a slap
in the face. A-ha, sweet home Alabama.
844
00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,684
We got your sweet home Alabama.
845
00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:58,694
[SONG CONTINUES]
846
00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:03,529
But we gonna sing you anyway, and
we're gonna sing the crap out of you.
847
00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,910
[SONG CONTINUES]
848
00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:15,457
[BOYD]
If given the opportunity,
849
00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:19,841
we will demonstrate our value
beyond any reasonable doubt,
850
00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:23,629
so much so that going forward,
when you start to define singing,
851
00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:26,969
it's going to be based on
this transformative sound
852
00:49:27,131 --> 00:49:29,350
coming out of these
backup singers' mouths.
853
00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:33,350
[SONG CONTINUES]
854
00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:41,480
My way of being an
activist in our struggle
855
00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:46,447
as a black people
was to do the music.
856
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:50,580
♪ Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord
It's the last line.
857
00:49:50,738 --> 00:49:57,212
♪ Lord lift us up
858
00:50:01,165 --> 00:50:04,339
♪ Where we belong
859
00:50:04,502 --> 00:50:09,633
♪ Where the eagles cry
860
00:50:09,799 --> 00:50:14,179
♪ On a mountain high
861
00:50:15,722 --> 00:50:18,100
♪ Lord lift us up
862
00:50:18,266 --> 00:50:22,271
♪ Where we belong
863
00:50:24,022 --> 00:50:28,368
♪ Up where the thrill below
864
00:50:28,526 --> 00:50:34,329
♪ Up where the free winds blow ♪
865
00:50:39,245 --> 00:50:41,418
Any song that you can name
with background on it,
866
00:50:41,581 --> 00:50:43,629
either I was doing it
with a bunch of girls,
867
00:50:43,791 --> 00:50:45,464
or either the Waters
were doing it.
868
00:50:45,626 --> 00:50:47,306
[WATERS] We always went
in the studio with,
869
00:50:47,462 --> 00:50:49,715
"God, we're on this song."
870
00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:54,057
And we would always do our very
best, like it was ours.
871
00:50:54,218 --> 00:50:56,641
- Patti LaBelle.
- Patti LaBelle.
872
00:50:56,804 --> 00:50:58,564
- "You Are My Friend."
- "You Are My Friend."
873
00:50:58,598 --> 00:51:02,774
- The Bad Girls album.
- [♪ "BAD GIRLS"]
874
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,866
♪ Toot-toot, ahh, beep-beep
875
00:51:09,025 --> 00:51:11,619
That's when we really cleaned up.
876
00:51:11,778 --> 00:51:14,031
- [MAN] Whitney Houston.
- Whitney Houston,
877
00:51:14,197 --> 00:51:15,289
"The Greatest Love of All."
878
00:51:15,448 --> 00:51:17,826
- All those LPs.
- The Disney characters.
879
00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:19,835
- Yes.
- That's us on there,
880
00:51:19,994 --> 00:51:21,337
the "Small World," you know.
881
00:51:21,496 --> 00:51:23,464
- You hear all that singing.
- Lion King.
882
00:51:23,623 --> 00:51:29,175
[SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE]
883
00:51:29,337 --> 00:51:31,715
- Uh-huh.
- Growing Pains.
884
00:51:31,881 --> 00:51:34,885
As long as we got
each other..
885
00:51:35,301 --> 00:51:36,427
The biggest selling record
886
00:51:36,594 --> 00:51:39,222
in the history of records,
Michael Jackson's Thriller.
887
00:51:39,388 --> 00:51:42,187
[♪ MICHAEL JACKSON: "THRILLER"]
888
00:51:42,350 --> 00:51:44,068
♪ 'Cause this is Thriller
889
00:51:44,227 --> 00:51:46,901
[MALE WATERS] And the biggest
selling movie, Avatar.
890
00:51:47,063 --> 00:51:49,782
It's some bird sounds
and things like that.
891
00:51:49,941 --> 00:51:52,865
[SCREECHES] Stuff like that,
892
00:51:53,027 --> 00:51:56,372
you know, different things... But doing
this kinda just took us away
893
00:51:56,531 --> 00:51:58,659
from doing our own records, you know,
894
00:51:58,825 --> 00:52:00,426
and stuff like that,
which we used to do.
895
00:52:02,078 --> 00:52:04,877
Singing, you know,
oohs and aahs and...
896
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,542
It's kinda fun for a minute.
Uh...
897
00:52:07,708 --> 00:52:09,381
I'm not sure if I'd like
to do it for a living.
898
00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:13,139
[♪ TOM JONES: "RIVER DEEP, MOUNTAIN HIGH"]
899
00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:18,679
♪ I love you baby like
a flower loves the spring
900
00:52:18,845 --> 00:52:24,318
♪ And I love you baby
like a robin loves to sing
901
00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:29,481
♪ And I love you baby, like
the schoolboy loves to play
902
00:52:29,647 --> 00:52:32,400
♪ Oh, and I love you baby
903
00:52:32,567 --> 00:52:35,741
♪ River deep and mountain high
904
00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,744
[LOVE] Phil Spector's name
started getting big,
905
00:52:37,864 --> 00:52:39,081
my name started getting big,
906
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:42,790
because the rock and roll people
like Bruce and Elton John
907
00:52:42,952 --> 00:52:45,876
and Stevie wanted to know
who that girl singer was.
908
00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:47,631
♪ I want you baby
909
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:53,471
I mean, she without question,
is a lead singer.
910
00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:55,131
You started to pick up that voice
911
00:52:55,298 --> 00:52:58,928
and you began
to have an allegiance to that voice.
912
00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:03,940
♪ River deep, mountain high
913
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:08,569
♪ If I lost you, would I cry?
914
00:53:08,728 --> 00:53:13,484
[LOVE] That made me wanna be out there
by myself even more as a solo artist.
915
00:53:13,649 --> 00:53:17,495
♪ Baby, baby ♪
916
00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:21,624
I saw then I'd have to leave that group
to become a solo singer.
917
00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:23,204
[CLAYTON]
Singing background, to me,
918
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:26,587
it was like a rehearsal for what I was
gonna do for my project.
919
00:53:27,872 --> 00:53:31,797
I wanted to sing as Merry Clayton,
920
00:53:31,959 --> 00:53:37,011
to the masses. I wanted to get
my stuff out to the masses,
921
00:53:37,173 --> 00:53:39,392
and God sent me Lou Adler.
922
00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:42,804
[SOUL MUSIC PLAYS]
923
00:53:45,848 --> 00:53:50,570
Merry consciously wanted to be
a solo artist and a star.
924
00:53:51,938 --> 00:53:55,238
Whenever Merry appeared,
standing ovations.
925
00:53:55,399 --> 00:53:59,449
I mean, it's as if they never had seen
or heard someone like that.
926
00:53:59,612 --> 00:54:04,664
♪ Southern man
You'd better keep your head
927
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:10,127
♪ Don't forget
what your good book said
928
00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:14,339
When it came to my project, I was
gonna kick ass and take names.
929
00:54:14,502 --> 00:54:19,008
♪ Southern man
When will you pay them back?
930
00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:22,143
♪ I heard screaming
931
00:54:22,301 --> 00:54:25,225
♪ Bullwhip cracking
932
00:54:25,388 --> 00:54:27,982
♪ How long? How long?
933
00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:32,145
♪ How long?
Baby, how long?
934
00:54:32,311 --> 00:54:34,780
[ADLER] She made three
really good albums.
935
00:54:34,939 --> 00:54:38,239
They all sound like somebody
that's as big as Aretha Franklin.
936
00:54:38,401 --> 00:54:41,530
♪ Why don't you get
yourself together?
937
00:54:41,696 --> 00:54:44,245
♪ Get your heart, your mind
938
00:54:44,407 --> 00:54:48,332
♪ And your soul together, oh
939
00:54:48,494 --> 00:54:50,041
[CLAYTON]
I think Lou did a great job
940
00:54:50,204 --> 00:54:53,048
and A&M did a great job
promoting my records here.
941
00:54:53,207 --> 00:54:56,381
[LOVE] I think you do, number one,
have to have that kill spirit,
942
00:54:56,544 --> 00:54:57,716
to really want it.
943
00:54:57,878 --> 00:55:00,176
Now, Merry Clayton got the kill spirit.
944
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:02,012
I don't know why
she wasn't a superstar.
945
00:55:02,174 --> 00:55:04,973
♪ One day I'm gonna cut him down
946
00:55:05,136 --> 00:55:07,855
♪ You see I heard screaming
947
00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:11,567
♪ Bullwhips they were cracking
948
00:55:11,726 --> 00:55:16,152
♪ How long? Oh, how long?
949
00:55:16,314 --> 00:55:17,941
♪ Can you tell me?
950
00:55:18,107 --> 00:55:22,362
♪ Oh, southern man keep your head
951
00:55:22,528 --> 00:55:28,035
We did everything possible,
and it just didn't take.
952
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:31,708
[JONES] The industry,
it was controlled.
953
00:55:31,871 --> 00:55:34,545
There were rules.
She was a gospel singer.
954
00:55:34,707 --> 00:55:36,505
There's only one Aretha.
955
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,965
You know, and that's the way
they felt in those days.
956
00:55:39,128 --> 00:55:41,631
It could only be Aretha.
Only could be Diana Ross.
957
00:55:41,797 --> 00:55:43,470
♪ Good book said
958
00:55:43,632 --> 00:55:47,557
♪ Well, you can't
forget what your
959
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,973
- ♪ Good book said
- ♪ Oh
960
00:55:50,139 --> 00:55:52,267
Yes, I became frustrated at one time,
961
00:55:52,433 --> 00:55:55,437
said, "Damn, the record didn't
go any further than this?
962
00:55:55,603 --> 00:55:56,729
What're we doing wrong?"
963
00:55:59,482 --> 00:56:05,910
I felt like if I just gave
my heart to what I was doing,
964
00:56:06,072 --> 00:56:08,996
I would automatically be a star.
965
00:56:09,158 --> 00:56:12,583
♪ Southern man ♪
966
00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:23,848
I think what happens with
the whole issue of background
967
00:56:24,006 --> 00:56:27,431
versus lead singing is, you know,
968
00:56:27,593 --> 00:56:29,391
the material that you're given
969
00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:33,148
and how you work with producers.
970
00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:36,106
[VOCALIZING]
971
00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:46,488
In the mid '70s, Darlene
Love is finally freed
972
00:56:46,654 --> 00:56:48,497
from her contract
with Phil Spector.
973
00:56:48,656 --> 00:56:50,374
I had signed with Gamble and Huff.
974
00:56:50,533 --> 00:56:53,036
Who were, at that time,
the hottest thing out there.
975
00:56:53,202 --> 00:56:56,376
And I say, "OK, here's my career.
It's gonna really go now."
976
00:56:56,539 --> 00:56:59,383
And, uh, there was
another door I ran into.
977
00:57:02,378 --> 00:57:07,179
[ZANES] Within weeks, they sell her
contract back to Phil Spector
978
00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,309
and the nightmare continues.
979
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,160
[LOVE]
This was the new Phil Spector.
980
00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,559
He did the Beatles thing and,
you know, he was a big star,
981
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,524
so now he's gonna act like a big star
in front of this little star,
982
00:57:19,687 --> 00:57:21,985
Darlene Love,
and I wasn't having it.
983
00:57:23,232 --> 00:57:26,031
It got to be so bad,
I just said, "You know what?
984
00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:28,036
I've had it."
That's what I said to myself.
985
00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:30,869
Took the earphones off my ears,
put 'em in the chain
986
00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:34,956
picked up my coat, put it on
and walked out the studio.
987
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,998
I didn't see Phil Spector
no more for over 20 years.
988
00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:43,302
[SPRINGSTEEN] Many of these singers
came out of the music business at a time
989
00:57:43,461 --> 00:57:47,682
when the singer depended
on a songwriter,
990
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,389
somebody who knew
how to feature their voice,
991
00:57:50,551 --> 00:57:53,304
somebody who knew how
to create a hit arrangement.
992
00:57:53,471 --> 00:57:56,020
Those are a lot of things
to be dependent upon, you know.
993
00:57:56,182 --> 00:57:59,277
And I know so many people
with incredible voices,
994
00:57:59,435 --> 00:58:03,815
but if you don't find someone
who understands who you are,
995
00:58:03,981 --> 00:58:07,281
you can be a great singer
and just not... and that...
996
00:58:07,443 --> 00:58:09,523
just not make that next step,
you know. There's...
997
00:58:10,112 --> 00:58:12,160
I mean, the country's filled
with them, you know.
998
00:58:12,323 --> 00:58:14,826
[♪ OTIS REDDING:
"I'VE GOT DREAMS TO REMEMBER"]
999
00:58:20,623 --> 00:58:23,627
There's no guarantees
in entertainment.
1000
00:58:23,792 --> 00:58:25,590
There's no... no guarantees.
1001
00:58:30,424 --> 00:58:33,724
[LENNEAR] I had been offered the chance
to go solo several times,
1002
00:58:33,886 --> 00:58:36,981
and then ultimately, I ended up
with Warner Brothers.
1003
00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:39,608
The studio was smoking.
1004
00:58:39,767 --> 00:58:43,738
It was just...
and it was just amazing.
1005
00:58:43,896 --> 00:58:47,150
It was just amazing and...
1006
00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:48,989
[MAN] And how was
the record received?
1007
00:58:50,402 --> 00:58:52,530
Mm... not that well.
1008
00:58:59,328 --> 00:59:02,707
[MALE WATERS] If you are out there and
your name is on that doggone marquee,
1009
00:59:02,873 --> 00:59:06,923
the pressure is on 'em, and sometimes
that can... that can cause, uh,
1010
00:59:07,086 --> 00:59:08,884
problems in a person's life.
1011
00:59:18,973 --> 00:59:24,901
I had a contract as a solo artist
and then I was kept on, but shelved.
1012
00:59:25,688 --> 00:59:30,285
So I was on Motown, but not.
And it hasn't been easy.
1013
00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:33,321
You know, there's stuff
that goes on with people.
1014
00:59:36,490 --> 00:59:41,496
[LENNEAR] I had a daughter to raise.
I had a band to support.
1015
00:59:41,662 --> 00:59:43,710
I mean, it just got crazy.
1016
00:59:55,384 --> 00:59:57,102
[MIZELLE] The kind of feeling
that you get
1017
00:59:57,261 --> 00:59:59,684
from people
screaming in the audience,
1018
00:59:59,847 --> 01:00:04,978
if you're always looking for that
in life, you're gonna crash.
1019
01:00:08,606 --> 01:00:11,359
[LENNEAR] The focus wasn't
on music anymore.
1020
01:00:13,402 --> 01:00:16,497
I had to send my daughter to live
with my brother and his kids,
1021
01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:20,159
while I was trying to scrape
things together to pay the gas bill.
1022
01:00:26,373 --> 01:00:28,876
I remember her putting out a record,
but then I looked up and then...
1023
01:00:29,043 --> 01:00:30,636
I didn't see Claudia anymore.
1024
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,844
She said thank you and goodnight,
that's what she said.
1025
01:00:38,344 --> 01:00:41,143
[VEGA] I thought people would be
banging down my door for deals,
1026
01:00:41,305 --> 01:00:43,307
and it didn't happen like that.
1027
01:00:43,474 --> 01:00:45,897
"You're too fat.
You're too old.
1028
01:00:47,645 --> 01:00:50,023
You know, you should seriously
think about another career."
1029
01:00:54,943 --> 01:00:58,538
[VEGA]
And after that, it's hell.
1030
01:01:02,451 --> 01:01:04,829
I think if I had "made" it,
1031
01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:07,714
like what the world...
millions of dollars, all that,
1032
01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:11,548
I probably wouldn't be sitting in this
chair talking to you right know,
1033
01:01:11,710 --> 01:01:13,712
'cause I would have OD'd somewhere.
1034
01:01:28,644 --> 01:01:31,864
[STING] It's not a level playing field.
It never is a level playing field,
1035
01:01:32,022 --> 01:01:34,992
and you come into life understanding
that. It's not about fairness.
1036
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:37,369
It's not really about talent,
you know.
1037
01:01:37,528 --> 01:01:41,783
It's... circumstance,
it's luck. It's destiny.
1038
01:01:41,949 --> 01:01:47,331
I don't know what it is, but
the best people deal with that.
1039
01:01:57,798 --> 01:02:01,177
[HILL] Working with Michael
really did inspire me,
1040
01:02:01,343 --> 01:02:04,096
and saying like, "Wow,
it's OK to dream this big.
1041
01:02:04,263 --> 01:02:06,265
It's OK to realize your dreams."
1042
01:02:06,432 --> 01:02:08,309
[♪ JUDITH HILL: "DESPERATION]
1043
01:02:08,475 --> 01:02:12,525
♪ I still believe
1044
01:02:14,314 --> 01:02:18,194
♪ Someday
1045
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,533
♪ You'll come around
1046
01:02:20,696 --> 01:02:23,700
[AUSTIN] She's representational of
what's happening with background singers
1047
01:02:23,866 --> 01:02:26,836
at this point. I know she aspires
to be a solo artist, though.
1048
01:02:26,994 --> 01:02:30,339
♪ I pray
1049
01:02:30,497 --> 01:02:33,297
[MAN] This last tour, I heard from other
friends that were with Michael
1050
01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:37,130
that he just loved her and,
of course, she got the job.
1051
01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:40,766
You know, we were so excited
for him and for us to be
1052
01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,972
able to do this show,
and it was coming together.
1053
01:02:43,135 --> 01:02:46,435
I can't do that.
But you're fine to do it.
1054
01:02:46,597 --> 01:02:48,099
I gotta save my voice.
1055
01:02:48,265 --> 01:02:50,313
♪ I ain't going nowhere
1056
01:02:50,476 --> 01:02:51,853
♪ 'Cause I...
1057
01:02:52,019 --> 01:02:54,459
[HILL] And then all of a sudden,
we're on our way to rehearsal
1058
01:02:54,563 --> 01:02:56,156
and we get the news and it's like,
1059
01:02:56,315 --> 01:02:59,159
"You gotta be kidding me.
Like, how's that even possible?"
1060
01:02:59,318 --> 01:03:01,286
♪ We'll always be waiting
1061
01:03:01,445 --> 01:03:03,698
♪ So somewhere in me
1062
01:03:03,864 --> 01:03:06,333
[HILL] It's such an overwhelming
shock just to go from
1063
01:03:06,492 --> 01:03:08,665
almost on our way
to this huge show,
1064
01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:10,500
to all of a sudden, he's gone.
1065
01:03:10,662 --> 01:03:14,257
♪ You ♪
1066
01:03:15,793 --> 01:03:18,046
I was crying
throughout the service
1067
01:03:18,212 --> 01:03:21,682
and I wasn't really emotionally
in a place to sing,
1068
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,059
but, actually, it
wasn't too unfamiliar to me,
1069
01:03:24,218 --> 01:03:26,846
because that kind of feeling
and that reverence
1070
01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:29,310
reminded me a lot
of church service,
1071
01:03:29,473 --> 01:03:31,350
so that's how I felt
when I was there.
1072
01:03:31,517 --> 01:03:35,112
But, you know, I didn't
really realize at the time
1073
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:37,068
billions of people
were watching it.
1074
01:03:37,231 --> 01:03:39,199
[ANNOUNCER]
And a star is born.
1075
01:03:39,358 --> 01:03:40,780
♪ We are the world
1076
01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:44,413
[WOMAN] Judith, thank you so much
for joining us. Just 24 hours ago,
1077
01:03:44,571 --> 01:03:46,994
I think you were brought
to the world's attention
1078
01:03:47,157 --> 01:03:49,501
by doing one of Michael's
most famous songs ever.
1079
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:51,162
Well, what you saw...
1080
01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:54,502
[HILL] When you're a background singer,
it is a springboard in the beginning,
1081
01:03:54,665 --> 01:03:58,715
but it can easily become quicksand
if that's not what you wanna do.
1082
01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:00,971
Ever since the Michael Jackson
experience,
1083
01:04:01,129 --> 01:04:03,928
I've turned down almost
every background singing gig,
1084
01:04:04,091 --> 01:04:07,186
because I knew that
if I kept doing it,
1085
01:04:07,344 --> 01:04:11,224
then becoming an artist
would become more difficult.
1086
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:13,150
[MAXWELL] I think the world
needs to hear her
1087
01:04:13,267 --> 01:04:16,567
and I didn't want her to go
the way of background singing.
1088
01:04:16,728 --> 01:04:20,983
I put together the girls for Elton
to go on tour and they wanted Judith.
1089
01:04:21,149 --> 01:04:24,574
Elton loves Judith, but I think
she had to make a decision,
1090
01:04:24,736 --> 01:04:26,409
"Do I really wanna
be a solo artist?"
1091
01:04:26,572 --> 01:04:29,041
And she's trying to do it,
because she writes songs.
1092
01:04:30,576 --> 01:04:33,671
[JOHN] We in the music industry,
especially African American people,
1093
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:36,548
need to know our worth.
1094
01:04:37,457 --> 01:04:41,257
We need to know,
as women, we're important.
1095
01:04:42,671 --> 01:04:46,266
And I think the breakdown is
1096
01:04:46,425 --> 01:04:52,273
when a woman doesn't know who
she is and she settle for less.
1097
01:04:54,099 --> 01:04:56,193
Check out your worth,
1098
01:04:56,351 --> 01:04:58,979
because you're worth
more than that.
1099
01:05:02,274 --> 01:05:03,776
[LOVE] I couldn't sleep.
1100
01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:05,615
I was getting in such
a depressed state,
1101
01:05:05,777 --> 01:05:07,378
I called my mother and father,
asked them
1102
01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,782
if they would take care of my kids.
1103
01:05:09,948 --> 01:05:13,373
And the most enjoyment I got back
in those days was singing in church.
1104
01:05:13,535 --> 01:05:17,540
That's the only place that I was
actually singing during those times.
1105
01:05:17,706 --> 01:05:21,085
Only thing I thought I could do and
make a little money to survive,
1106
01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,754
you know,
I started cleaning houses.
1107
01:05:23,921 --> 01:05:26,720
[WOMAN VOCALIZING]
1108
01:05:26,882 --> 01:05:29,385
[LOVE] Not the great Darlene Love.
She's not doing... cleaning houses.
1109
01:05:29,551 --> 01:05:32,851
I said, "Yes, the great Darlene Love is.
She is cleaning houses. "
1110
01:05:35,182 --> 01:05:39,688
One particular Christmas,
I was cleaning this lady's bathroom.
1111
01:05:39,853 --> 01:05:44,984
[♪ "CHRISTMAS (BABY PLEASE COME HOME)"]
1112
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:48,324
[LOVE] And "Christmas
(Baby Please Come Home)",
1113
01:05:48,487 --> 01:05:50,615
my Christmas record,
1114
01:05:50,781 --> 01:05:54,035
came on the radio while
I was cleaning this bathroom.
1115
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:02,088
And I just looked up and just said,
"OK, all right, Darlene,
1116
01:06:02,250 --> 01:06:05,925
this is not where you're supposed to be.
You're supposed to be singing.
1117
01:06:06,088 --> 01:06:10,264
There's a whole world out there
who wants to hear you sing."
1118
01:06:14,846 --> 01:06:19,647
[LOVE] And then the move from California
to New York, my career just took off.
1119
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,241
Nice to have you here.
Everything OK with you?
1120
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:28,952
- Wonderful.
- Thanks for being here.
1121
01:06:29,111 --> 01:06:30,408
- Come and sing it next year.
- Of course.
1122
01:06:30,570 --> 01:06:32,072
[LETTERMAN]
I hope you have a good holiday.
1123
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,913
[LOVE] I have to plan what I'm going
to do. I have to take a little job.
1124
01:06:35,075 --> 01:06:36,497
The bastards got my daughter.
1125
01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,413
Just so you can keep
your name out there.
1126
01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:42,207
But if I didn't do those jobs,
then nobody would really know
1127
01:06:42,374 --> 01:06:44,468
who Darlene Love was.
1128
01:06:45,836 --> 01:06:48,931
[JONES] As a young person,
I thought everybody could sing.
1129
01:06:49,089 --> 01:06:51,387
When you start getting older,
then you realize,
1130
01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:54,724
everyone is not the same,
that these are gifts,
1131
01:06:54,886 --> 01:06:58,982
and you have to share
and go out into the world.
1132
01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:11,953
[FISCHER] Whoo!
1133
01:07:12,112 --> 01:07:15,582
Oh, my girlfriend and I took these.
1134
01:07:15,741 --> 01:07:18,836
It was supposed to be closed.
You see the zipper is broken.
1135
01:07:18,994 --> 01:07:24,376
[LAUGHS] I swear it was closed.
It started out closed.
1136
01:07:24,541 --> 01:07:29,593
Here, yes. It's my Grammy.
1137
01:07:29,755 --> 01:07:32,850
I just kinda keep 'em here.
I don't know what to do with it.
1138
01:07:33,008 --> 01:07:35,431
[LAUGHS]
I don't know what to do with it.
1139
01:07:35,594 --> 01:07:37,187
- You're looking fantastic.
- Thank you.
1140
01:07:37,345 --> 01:07:38,471
- I've gotta tell this story.
- OK.
1141
01:07:38,638 --> 01:07:41,312
The first time
I met you, I met Lisa,
1142
01:07:41,475 --> 01:07:43,235
was you were singing
background on my record.
1143
01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,361
- Yes...
- "I Know How To Make You," right.
1144
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,694
♪ I know how to make you
love me, baby
1145
01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,110
That's right, that's right.
And I have to tell you,
1146
01:07:51,276 --> 01:07:55,247
I mean, everyone in the
industry knows Lisa Fischer.
1147
01:07:55,405 --> 01:07:58,625
[FISCHER] I wasn't deep
in search of a record deal.
1148
01:07:58,784 --> 01:08:02,755
It was just one of those things
that just blossomed,
1149
01:08:02,913 --> 01:08:05,382
you know,
and I was really fortunate.
1150
01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:09,295
♪ How can I
1151
01:08:09,461 --> 01:08:12,214
♪ Ooh
1152
01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:24,644
I just... I think she
is a freak of nature
1153
01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:27,814
that I've never seen before.
1154
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:30,858
[VOCALIZING]
1155
01:08:31,024 --> 01:08:35,575
- ♪ How can I ease
- [VOCALIZING]
1156
01:08:35,737 --> 01:08:40,368
And the Grammy goes to... Lisa Fischer,
"How Can I Ease the Pain?"
1157
01:08:40,534 --> 01:08:45,540
- ♪ How can I ease
- ♪ How can I ease the
1158
01:08:45,705 --> 01:08:49,050
♪ Oh, pain, baby
1159
01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:51,962
I have to thank Luther Vandross.
That's the first thing I have to do.
1160
01:08:52,129 --> 01:08:54,552
Without him, none of this would
have been possible for me.
1161
01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:59,641
She has her own Grammy. She has her own
recording contract with Elektra Records.
1162
01:08:59,803 --> 01:09:02,022
[VOCALIZING]
1163
01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:04,148
It's different when you're
singing background for someone,
1164
01:09:04,307 --> 01:09:06,435
you know, because you're so
into making them happy,
1165
01:09:06,601 --> 01:09:08,353
making sure that they
have what they need.
1166
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,648
But then, once you're
doing your own thing,
1167
01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:13,134
it's like you have to try to
understand what it is you need
1168
01:09:13,191 --> 01:09:15,410
and what's gonna
make you happy.
1169
01:09:22,117 --> 01:09:25,212
[APPLAUSE]
1170
01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:28,749
[MAN]
Give it up. Lisa Fischer.
1171
01:09:41,303 --> 01:09:43,977
[FISCHER] I was working
on a second record and...
1172
01:09:45,265 --> 01:09:46,938
I don't know, it just took too long.
1173
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,353
It took too long, and
there was this window,
1174
01:09:49,519 --> 01:09:50,862
and it just took too long.
1175
01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:57,077
I just don't think anyone
knew what to do with me.
1176
01:09:57,819 --> 01:10:00,038
I don't think
I knew what to do with me.
1177
01:10:00,197 --> 01:10:03,076
That's something
I never really understood,
1178
01:10:03,241 --> 01:10:06,245
just the business part of it.
1179
01:10:08,038 --> 01:10:10,336
[AUSTIN] It takes a tremendous
amount of energy
1180
01:10:10,498 --> 01:10:14,173
to be a solo artist and a tremendous
amount of ego to want to do that.
1181
01:10:16,004 --> 01:10:18,803
And she's never
had that kind of ego.
1182
01:10:20,842 --> 01:10:22,560
[ALEXANDER] I think there
is a psychology behind it.
1183
01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:25,017
I think most background
singers will agree
1184
01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:27,729
that we're not really
good self-promoters.
1185
01:10:27,891 --> 01:10:29,643
You know, the industry
is for those who put themselves
1186
01:10:29,809 --> 01:10:31,777
on display and are willing
to play the game,
1187
01:10:31,937 --> 01:10:33,939
and some people aren't.
1188
01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:39,654
[ZANES] In a strange way,
the gulf between the lead singer
1189
01:10:39,819 --> 01:10:43,449
and that group of backup
singers couldn't be wider.
1190
01:10:43,615 --> 01:10:46,243
You're going into a group format
1191
01:10:46,409 --> 01:10:49,538
where you sacrifice individuality
1192
01:10:49,704 --> 01:10:52,503
in order to arrive at that blend.
1193
01:10:52,666 --> 01:10:57,547
And the blend is something that's
not just infectious for the listener.
1194
01:10:57,712 --> 01:11:02,434
It's... it's the transformative
experience for the singer.
1195
01:11:02,592 --> 01:11:06,847
And some people
just wanna stay there.
1196
01:11:08,431 --> 01:11:10,024
[STING]
Real musicians,
1197
01:11:10,183 --> 01:11:12,277
there's a spiritual component
to what they do.
1198
01:11:12,435 --> 01:11:15,359
It's got nothing to do
with worldly success.
1199
01:11:15,522 --> 01:11:19,868
Their music is much
more of an inner journey.
1200
01:11:20,026 --> 01:11:23,656
Any other success
is just cream on the cake.
1201
01:11:23,822 --> 01:11:25,699
[VOCALIZING]
1202
01:11:25,865 --> 01:11:28,493
There's this idea that you can
go on American Idol
1203
01:11:28,660 --> 01:11:30,628
and suddenly become a star,
1204
01:11:30,787 --> 01:11:33,711
but you may bypass
the spiritual work
1205
01:11:33,873 --> 01:11:35,875
that you have to do to get there,
1206
01:11:36,042 --> 01:11:40,468
and if you bypass that, then
your success will be wafer thin.
1207
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:44,055
[HARMONIZING VOCALS]
1208
01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:52,560
[JULIA WATERS] People lose
the heart of a lot of it
1209
01:11:52,726 --> 01:11:55,195
because they haven't
grown up with, you know,
1210
01:11:55,353 --> 01:11:58,106
having to go through that,
what I call wood shedding,
1211
01:11:58,273 --> 01:12:01,368
having to really say,
"OK, let me focus in on...
1212
01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:04,370
this is what we need to do."
1213
01:12:12,662 --> 01:12:14,130
[HARMONIZING ENDS]
1214
01:12:14,289 --> 01:12:16,291
There's a budget right now,
in every...
1215
01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,881
every recording budget
that says "for tuning."
1216
01:12:19,044 --> 01:12:22,218
And that's, you know, how many hours
are allowed for tuning.
1217
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:25,600
And I said, "What's that?"
"Oh, we have to tune all the vocals."
1218
01:12:25,759 --> 01:12:27,602
"Well, why don't they
sing in tune?"
1219
01:12:27,761 --> 01:12:31,186
"Well, it just takes too
much time and it's too hard."
1220
01:12:31,348 --> 01:12:33,646
And so they just sing
and then they tune 'em all.
1221
01:12:33,808 --> 01:12:35,310
And that's ridiculous to me.
1222
01:12:35,477 --> 01:12:36,854
Please welcome Kylie Minogue.
1223
01:12:37,020 --> 01:12:40,024
[CHEERING]
1224
01:12:40,190 --> 01:12:43,820
Well, good evening, everyone.
How you feeling?
1225
01:12:43,985 --> 01:12:45,865
[HILL] Actually, I've gotten
a lot of criticism.
1226
01:12:46,029 --> 01:12:48,248
I've done a couple of gigs
I thought I would get,
1227
01:12:48,406 --> 01:12:51,034
just get away with, you know.
And I even put a wig on.
1228
01:12:51,201 --> 01:12:54,080
I put, like, a straight-hair wig.
Like, on this Jay Leno gig,
1229
01:12:54,245 --> 01:12:57,920
no one's gonna know it's me. And then
I get these tweets from fans, like,
1230
01:12:58,083 --> 01:13:01,303
"How could you do this? You're singing
in front of... behind her,
1231
01:13:01,461 --> 01:13:03,930
and, you know,
you go from Michael to..."
1232
01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:07,093
And like just criticism, and I'm like,
"How did you even know that was me?"
1233
01:13:07,258 --> 01:13:11,263
[LAUGHS] But I'm, like, right
in the transitional stage here.
1234
01:13:11,429 --> 01:13:14,649
I am not at a position where
I can turn down everything,
1235
01:13:14,808 --> 01:13:16,776
because all of these things
as an artist
1236
01:13:16,935 --> 01:13:19,654
are really expensive
and my dreams are huge.
1237
01:13:19,813 --> 01:13:24,114
So I have been doing some
background singing on the side.
1238
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:25,492
[♪ STEVIE WONDER: "HOW SWEET IT IS"]
1239
01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:29,373
♪ I want to stop
and thank you with this now
1240
01:13:29,531 --> 01:13:34,662
♪ How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1241
01:13:34,828 --> 01:13:37,581
♪ Oh, yes, it is, yeah
1242
01:13:37,747 --> 01:13:39,795
♪ How sweet it is
1243
01:13:39,958 --> 01:13:43,337
[WONDER] With Judith, I knew
that she had an incredible voice.
1244
01:13:43,503 --> 01:13:47,849
I know that she sang in church,
and it was a really wonderful thing
1245
01:13:48,007 --> 01:13:50,681
when I heard her songs.
1246
01:13:50,844 --> 01:13:54,189
I said, "You're gonna do something."
1247
01:13:54,347 --> 01:13:59,649
♪ How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1248
01:14:02,230 --> 01:14:05,359
[HILL] Stevie is very excited
about me as an artist as well.
1249
01:14:05,525 --> 01:14:08,119
He's really shown that.
1250
01:14:08,278 --> 01:14:11,282
But it's just an honor to just be able
to... I don't really care.
1251
01:14:11,448 --> 01:14:14,327
I mean, I just love singing
with him regardless, you know.
1252
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:16,494
[WONDER] As much as
you're enjoying this,
1253
01:14:16,661 --> 01:14:20,837
don't let your dream disappear,
1254
01:14:20,999 --> 01:14:23,752
because you wanna be with me
or be around me.
1255
01:14:23,918 --> 01:14:26,046
You gotta step out there
and do your thing.
1256
01:14:26,212 --> 01:14:28,931
♪ Sing, dah-dah-dah-dah-dah
1257
01:14:29,090 --> 01:14:30,933
[VOCALIZING]
1258
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,063
[WONDER]
People singing together
1259
01:14:35,221 --> 01:14:38,976
has always meant to me
people coming together.
1260
01:14:39,142 --> 01:14:43,568
[MAXWELL] What moves people
is the humanness of it, not the machine.
1261
01:14:43,730 --> 01:14:44,930
That's not the same as someone
1262
01:14:44,981 --> 01:14:47,301
singing and playing to you
and putting their heart into it.
1263
01:14:47,317 --> 01:14:50,491
And great background singers,
you know, it's moving.
1264
01:14:53,198 --> 01:14:55,238
[AUSTIN] For a long time,
I'd say a good five years,
1265
01:14:55,283 --> 01:14:57,160
you couldn't hear
a background on a record.
1266
01:14:57,327 --> 01:14:59,421
You wouldn't hear anybody
doing a hum or an "ooh"
1267
01:14:59,579 --> 01:15:03,425
or a "la" or... or an
answer line or anything.
1268
01:15:03,583 --> 01:15:05,335
Nothin'.
1269
01:15:05,502 --> 01:15:08,881
[VOCALIZING]
1270
01:15:09,047 --> 01:15:11,891
[WOMAN] There's not as much work
for background singers,
1271
01:15:12,050 --> 01:15:14,269
because different ones have
called me over the years
1272
01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:16,350
and just asked me, "Are you working?
1273
01:15:16,513 --> 01:15:19,517
'Cause my phone hasn't been ringing."
1274
01:15:19,682 --> 01:15:21,855
[VOCALIZING]
1275
01:15:26,272 --> 01:15:29,697
A lot of home studios, people
have their families singing,
1276
01:15:29,859 --> 01:15:31,299
doing all the vocal parts
themselves.
1277
01:15:31,444 --> 01:15:34,744
It's just put a lot
of singers out of work.
1278
01:15:34,906 --> 01:15:38,581
[HARMONIZING VOCALS]
1279
01:15:48,628 --> 01:15:49,908
[BOTTI]
When you get to the '90s,
1280
01:15:50,004 --> 01:15:53,053
you're starting to see
major structural changes.
1281
01:15:53,216 --> 01:15:57,016
The big recording sessions
associated with the '70s and the '80s,
1282
01:15:57,178 --> 01:15:59,021
they're not happening anymore.
1283
01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:05,316
[JONES] People didn't want
to pay the background singer,
1284
01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:06,918
'cause they don't
think they need it.
1285
01:16:06,938 --> 01:16:08,618
They were saying,
"Hey, we don't have to...
1286
01:16:08,773 --> 01:16:10,173
We don't have to write that check,"
1287
01:16:10,316 --> 01:16:12,865
not realizing that was the sound.
1288
01:16:13,027 --> 01:16:17,248
And that's why Joe Cocker
and The Stones and Rod Stewart,
1289
01:16:17,407 --> 01:16:21,537
David and all of these wonderful people,
they have their singers there.
1290
01:16:21,703 --> 01:16:24,877
They need those background singers.
1291
01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:32,385
[LASLEY] You do tend to wonder,
is there a cutoff point
1292
01:16:32,547 --> 01:16:37,178
or is there a way to leave
this occupation or this life
1293
01:16:37,343 --> 01:16:39,311
without dying of heartbreak or,
you know, or just,
1294
01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:43,145
is it the biggest jones of all?
1295
01:16:45,184 --> 01:16:49,280
You get hooked on music,
you are fucked, you know.
1296
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:54,445
[SOFT STATIC SOUND FROM MICROPHONE]
1297
01:16:56,571 --> 01:17:00,201
When you get into a relationship,
you know, there's an energy.
1298
01:17:01,659 --> 01:17:07,132
It's like when you see a married
couple walking into a room.
1299
01:17:08,291 --> 01:17:12,762
You see them part, but you still feel
that string that binds them.
1300
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,970
I never really had that.
1301
01:17:19,218 --> 01:17:23,064
So I always felt like I
belonged to everyone, you know,
1302
01:17:23,222 --> 01:17:25,316
a part of my heart,
1303
01:17:25,475 --> 01:17:27,944
a part of who I am
belongs to everybody.
1304
01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,821
So, I mean, sometimes
when I, you know,
1305
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:33,199
talk to my friends who have
children or who are married,
1306
01:17:33,358 --> 01:17:35,736
I think to myself,
1307
01:17:35,902 --> 01:17:39,873
"Hmm, maybe I should've gotten
married and had some kids
1308
01:17:40,031 --> 01:17:44,753
and done all that kinda thing."
But... I'm good.
1309
01:17:44,911 --> 01:17:48,791
[LAUGHS] I am so good.
1310
01:17:54,462 --> 01:17:57,341
[BOTTI]
Lisa is so incredibly versatile,
1311
01:17:57,507 --> 01:18:01,182
then you almost, you're so talented,
you almost get like option anxiety.
1312
01:18:01,344 --> 01:18:03,472
Well, what do I do?
Should I stay with the R&B thing?
1313
01:18:03,638 --> 01:18:05,515
Well, R&B was so big at the time.
1314
01:18:05,682 --> 01:18:07,901
Then you're up against Whitney
and Mariah and blah and blah and blah.
1315
01:18:08,059 --> 01:18:10,419
Then, maybe I should do a little bit
more of the rock thing.
1316
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,694
And her phone rings and it's Mick Jagger
and he says, "Join The Stones,"
1317
01:18:13,856 --> 01:18:17,906
and that's a hard thing to, you know,
to turn away from, you know.
1318
01:18:18,069 --> 01:18:19,537
That's a... [LAUGHS]
1319
01:18:19,696 --> 01:18:21,096
[♪ ROLLING STONES: "GIMME SHELTER"]
1320
01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:25,085
♪ Rape, murder
1321
01:18:25,243 --> 01:18:29,464
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1322
01:18:29,622 --> 01:18:31,545
♪ Rape...
1323
01:18:31,708 --> 01:18:34,086
[JAGGER] It's great to have
the female voice, you know,
1324
01:18:34,252 --> 01:18:37,426
otherwise it's me, me, me, me and me
and then it's a bit of Keith and...
1325
01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:41,764
But still, you know, it's still
the same kind of masculinity.
1326
01:18:41,926 --> 01:18:45,351
And then when you can get
someone like Lisa to step out
1327
01:18:45,513 --> 01:18:47,732
and you've got a whole
new voice out there.
1328
01:18:47,890 --> 01:18:50,985
[VOCALIZING]
1329
01:18:56,774 --> 01:18:58,401
[FISCHER] It's like, I could
hear how Mick was singing it
1330
01:18:58,568 --> 01:19:02,072
and I, you know,
react to him a certain way.
1331
01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,832
♪ My very life today
1332
01:19:04,991 --> 01:19:08,495
Like nobody else was in the room.
It was freeing in a weird way.
1333
01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:10,288
♪ Gimme shelter
1334
01:19:10,455 --> 01:19:14,585
♪ Or I'm gonna fade away
1335
01:19:14,751 --> 01:19:16,799
[AUSTIN]
Why isn't she promoting herself
1336
01:19:16,961 --> 01:19:18,759
and why is she out with
The Rolling Stones all the time?
1337
01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:20,719
It's because she's
comfortable doing that.
1338
01:19:20,882 --> 01:19:23,180
She loves doing it
and she's got it all to herself.
1339
01:19:23,342 --> 01:19:24,343
She's not stupid.
1340
01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:27,684
♪ It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1341
01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:32,064
♪ It's just a shot away
Shot away, shot away
1342
01:19:32,226 --> 01:19:35,776
I wanna be able to walk the streets
and not have to worry about, you know,
1343
01:19:35,938 --> 01:19:38,191
putting on sunglasses
and hiding out and, you know,
1344
01:19:38,357 --> 01:19:41,236
the tits up in the air
and, you know... I just... I...
1345
01:19:41,402 --> 01:19:45,657
I'm just... I'm not feeling that.
I'm just not feeling that.
1346
01:19:45,823 --> 01:19:49,999
♪ It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
1347
01:19:50,161 --> 01:19:54,211
♪ Kiss away, kiss away
Kiss away
1348
01:19:54,373 --> 01:19:58,173
[FISCHER] Some people will do
anything to be famous,
1349
01:19:58,336 --> 01:20:02,512
and then there are other people
who just will sing.
1350
01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:08,100
It's not about anything except
being in this special space
1351
01:20:08,262 --> 01:20:13,484
with people, and that is
really the higher calling to me.
1352
01:20:13,643 --> 01:20:16,738
[CROWD CHEERING]
1353
01:20:19,273 --> 01:20:22,152
[SOFT PIANO MUSIC]
1354
01:20:34,789 --> 01:20:38,089
[CLAYTON] Seemingly, every time I get
ready to do something really big,
1355
01:20:38,251 --> 01:20:41,255
or something really, really wonderful,
something would just happen
1356
01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:43,969
that would just knock me
to my knees, you know.
1357
01:20:45,424 --> 01:20:47,973
You don't want everybody to know
you got this at Pick 'n Save.
1358
01:20:48,135 --> 01:20:49,182
Ha!
1359
01:20:49,345 --> 01:20:51,097
I said, "God, what is this?
1360
01:20:51,264 --> 01:20:54,609
Am I not supposed to be doing this?
If I'm not supposed to be doing this,
1361
01:20:54,767 --> 01:20:57,020
then show me I'm not
supposed to be doing this,
1362
01:20:57,186 --> 01:20:59,689
and I won't do it, you know."
But I never was shown.
1363
01:20:59,856 --> 01:21:03,326
- [ALL] Amen.
- Praise the Lord.
1364
01:21:05,194 --> 01:21:07,663
And I just stay cool,
stay humble,
1365
01:21:07,822 --> 01:21:10,371
stay beautiful
and just do the work.
1366
01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:13,036
[CLAYTON] Thank you.
Thank you so much.
1367
01:21:13,327 --> 01:21:17,207
[BOTTI] If somebody says, "You're gonna
become an international superstar, "
1368
01:21:17,373 --> 01:21:19,501
of course everyone would spend
the money and do that.
1369
01:21:19,667 --> 01:21:22,261
But if you're living in a little place
and you have no money
1370
01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:24,140
and you got a little bit saved
and they say,
1371
01:21:24,255 --> 01:21:25,848
"You gotta risk all of that
1372
01:21:26,007 --> 01:21:28,351
and you still might be working
McDonald's tomorrow,"
1373
01:21:28,509 --> 01:21:33,857
I think you gotta be absolutely
crazy to go after it like that, yeah.
1374
01:21:34,015 --> 01:21:36,643
[SOFT PIANO MUSIC]
1375
01:21:46,819 --> 01:21:48,571
[LENNEAR] It was just...
1376
01:21:48,738 --> 01:21:52,493
I came to a fork in the road
and music wasn't on it.
1377
01:21:52,658 --> 01:21:56,128
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
1378
01:21:56,287 --> 01:21:59,882
Meaning, "I'm sorry,
I'm very sorry, or..."
1379
01:22:00,041 --> 01:22:05,218
[LENNEAR] I've been teaching
Spanish for ten to 15 years.
1380
01:22:05,379 --> 01:22:09,225
♪ Maybe you're
where you're supposed to be
1381
01:22:11,761 --> 01:22:15,311
♪ Safely kept within the crowd
1382
01:22:15,473 --> 01:22:17,601
[LENNEAR] It's always
been a missing link.
1383
01:22:17,767 --> 01:22:21,647
♪ You're looking for a reason
to break free
1384
01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:27,410
It's been a regret that I
didn't just hang in there,
1385
01:22:27,568 --> 01:22:31,744
especially when I see my contemporaries
progressing in their musical lives.
1386
01:22:31,906 --> 01:22:35,080
♪ Try to let it out
1387
01:22:37,078 --> 01:22:39,172
♪ So much worse
1388
01:22:39,330 --> 01:22:42,049
[LENNEAR] I never said it
wasn't for me, never.
1389
01:22:42,208 --> 01:22:47,339
If I did, I was lying to myself.
It's always been for me, always.
1390
01:22:47,505 --> 01:22:52,602
Just do it. Maybe that's one way to get
rid of that gnawing once and for all.
1391
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,058
♪ Oh, chance
1392
01:22:55,221 --> 01:22:57,895
♪ We all need
We all need, we all need
1393
01:22:58,057 --> 01:23:01,812
♪ We all need a little desperation
1394
01:23:02,687 --> 01:23:07,784
Let's have a warm, warm welcome
for Miss Judith Hill.
1395
01:23:07,942 --> 01:23:09,785
- [CHEERING]
- ♪ Do you want, do you want
1396
01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:10,945
♪ Do you want
1397
01:23:11,112 --> 01:23:14,707
♪ Do you want a little inspiration?
1398
01:23:14,865 --> 01:23:17,118
♪ 'Cause every wound
Every wound, every wound
1399
01:23:17,284 --> 01:23:20,754
♪ Really needs a little desperation
1400
01:23:20,913 --> 01:23:24,042
There's machines that make people
stars that don't have talent.
1401
01:23:24,208 --> 01:23:27,929
They don't really sing live.
Someone could have done that for Judith,
1402
01:23:28,087 --> 01:23:30,556
but I think what she has is deeper,
1403
01:23:30,715 --> 01:23:34,390
and maybe selling 500 million records
is not the best thing for her.
1404
01:23:34,552 --> 01:23:39,058
♪ Let it out
1405
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:46,857
♪ So much worseif you don't try now
1406
01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:50,448
It's more than just leaning on your
talent. You gotta be disciplined.
1407
01:23:50,609 --> 01:23:52,156
Gotta get up in the morning.
You gotta go do it.
1408
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:54,162
♪ Take a chance
1409
01:23:54,321 --> 01:23:56,244
♪ Take a chance...
1410
01:23:56,407 --> 01:23:59,377
Opportunity's knocking.
Open the door. Get going, kiddo.
1411
01:23:59,535 --> 01:24:02,630
♪ We all need, we all need
We all need
1412
01:24:02,788 --> 01:24:06,088
♪ A little desperation
1413
01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:08,719
♪ Can I have, can I have
Can I have
1414
01:24:08,878 --> 01:24:11,097
[WONDER] In these times that
we're living in right now,
1415
01:24:11,255 --> 01:24:13,428
a lot of it is based on
so many other things
1416
01:24:13,591 --> 01:24:15,559
that have nothing
to do with music.
1417
01:24:15,718 --> 01:24:18,562
♪ Do you want
a little inspiration?
1418
01:24:18,721 --> 01:24:21,645
[WONDER] But, you know, at the end
of the day, it's up to you
1419
01:24:21,807 --> 01:24:23,809
to perfect that gift
that you've been given.
1420
01:24:23,976 --> 01:24:26,775
Put your spirit into that song.
1421
01:24:26,937 --> 01:24:29,440
Focus on the words
that you're singing.
1422
01:24:29,607 --> 01:24:32,986
Get into the experience
of what you're singing about
1423
01:24:33,152 --> 01:24:34,950
and sing your heart out.
1424
01:24:35,112 --> 01:24:40,494
♪ A little desperation ♪
1425
01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:42,957
[LOVE] Every time you get up,
you might fall down,
1426
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,043
but you gotta get back
up again, you know,
1427
01:24:45,206 --> 01:24:48,301
and believe me when I tell you,
it's not easy, especially at my age.
1428
01:24:48,459 --> 01:24:51,679
I didn't start my solo
career till I was 40.
1429
01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:54,841
Tonight marks the 25th anniversary
1430
01:24:55,007 --> 01:24:57,135
of a favorite holiday tradition
here at The Late Show.
1431
01:24:57,301 --> 01:24:58,803
Ladies and Gentlemen,
please welcome
1432
01:24:58,969 --> 01:25:01,472
the remarkable Darlene Love.
1433
01:25:01,639 --> 01:25:04,392
- [PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
- [INAUDIBLE SINGING]
1434
01:25:09,146 --> 01:25:11,148
[♪ DARLENE LOVE: "LEAN ON ME"]
1435
01:25:11,315 --> 01:25:16,412
♪ Sometimes in our lives
1436
01:25:16,570 --> 01:25:20,495
♪ We all have pain
1437
01:25:20,658 --> 01:25:26,210
♪ We all have sorrow
1438
01:25:26,372 --> 01:25:31,378
♪ But if we are wise
1439
01:25:31,544 --> 01:25:35,014
♪ We know that there's
1440
01:25:35,172 --> 01:25:38,893
♪ Always tomorrow
1441
01:25:39,051 --> 01:25:42,430
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1442
01:25:42,596 --> 01:25:45,850
♪ When you're not strong
1443
01:25:46,016 --> 01:25:49,486
♪ And I'll be your friend
1444
01:25:49,645 --> 01:25:54,321
♪ I'll help you carry on
1445
01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:56,577
[MIDLER] And now it is
my honor and pleasure
1446
01:25:56,735 --> 01:25:59,238
to induct into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame,
1447
01:25:59,405 --> 01:26:03,080
and about time too,
Miss Darlene Love.
1448
01:26:03,242 --> 01:26:10,000
- [APPLAUSE]
- ♪ Somebody to lean on
1449
01:26:10,166 --> 01:26:14,637
♪ Please follow your pride
1450
01:26:14,795 --> 01:26:17,048
[LOVE] Thank you,
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1451
01:26:17,214 --> 01:26:21,219
I am truly honored and overwhelmed.
1452
01:26:21,385 --> 01:26:24,184
♪ Tomorrow
1453
01:26:24,346 --> 01:26:27,566
[WOMAN] So many of us,
Merry Clayton, the Waters,
1454
01:26:27,725 --> 01:26:29,523
we stand on her shoulders.
1455
01:26:30,644 --> 01:26:32,112
[LOVE] My mother
told this one lady,
1456
01:26:32,271 --> 01:26:34,694
"Oh, my daughter's in New
York now. She's on Broadway.
1457
01:26:34,857 --> 01:26:38,452
And they go, "What daughter?" Said,
"The one that used to clean your house."
1458
01:26:39,195 --> 01:26:41,289
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1459
01:26:41,447 --> 01:26:44,542
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ Lean on me
1460
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:48,079
♪ And I'll be your friend
1461
01:26:48,245 --> 01:26:53,968
♪ I'll help you carry on
1462
01:26:54,126 --> 01:26:55,673
- ♪ For
- ♪ Lean on me
1463
01:26:55,836 --> 01:26:59,215
- ♪ It won't be long
- ♪ Lean on me
1464
01:26:59,381 --> 01:27:02,351
♪ Till I'm gonna need
1465
01:27:02,509 --> 01:27:07,015
♪ Somebody to lean on
1466
01:27:08,849 --> 01:27:11,272
[ALEXANDER]
I've seen artists come and go,
1467
01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:15,065
and I look around on stage
and it's the same players.
1468
01:27:15,231 --> 01:27:18,155
They're in the game,
or they've stayed in the game
1469
01:27:18,317 --> 01:27:20,866
and they're legends
and they're amazing.
1470
01:27:21,028 --> 01:27:23,872
♪ Lean on me
1471
01:27:24,031 --> 01:27:27,251
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ When you're not strong
1472
01:27:27,409 --> 01:27:31,255
- ♪ I'll be your friend
- ♪ I'll be your friend
1473
01:27:31,413 --> 01:27:36,590
- ♪ I'll help you carry on
- ♪ Yes, I will
1474
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:40,677
[VEGA] Singing background,
it helped me find me.
1475
01:27:40,839 --> 01:27:44,844
It got back to the love of music.
1476
01:27:45,010 --> 01:27:50,312
♪ Somebody to lean
1477
01:27:50,474 --> 01:27:53,353
- ♪ Lean on me
- ♪ Lean on me
1478
01:27:53,519 --> 01:27:56,819
- ♪ When you're not strong
- ♪ When you're not strong
1479
01:27:56,981 --> 01:28:00,406
- ♪ I'll be your friend
- ♪ And I'll be your friend
1480
01:28:00,567 --> 01:28:06,040
- ♪ I'll help you carry on
- ♪ Yes, I will, yes, I will
1481
01:28:06,198 --> 01:28:10,874
- ♪ For it won't be long
- ♪ It won't be long
1482
01:28:11,036 --> 01:28:13,130
♪ Till I'm gonna need
1483
01:28:13,289 --> 01:28:15,712
[JOHN] We have a gift.
We can hear a song
1484
01:28:15,874 --> 01:28:17,968
and find our part
and harmonize with it.
1485
01:28:18,127 --> 01:28:19,845
Children on the
corner's doing it.
1486
01:28:20,004 --> 01:28:23,258
Little babies do it
when they learn to sing.
1487
01:28:23,424 --> 01:28:26,473
- [VOCALIZING]
- It's the gift coming out.
1488
01:28:26,635 --> 01:28:30,685
Now, what you do
with the gift is you.
1489
01:28:30,848 --> 01:28:34,523
- [CHEERING, APPLAUSE]
- [LOVE] Like the old days.
1490
01:28:34,685 --> 01:28:37,905
OK, next session.
1491
01:28:38,522 --> 01:28:39,523
[♪ DARLENE LOVE: "A FINE, FINE BOY"]
1492
01:28:39,690 --> 01:28:40,691
[LOVE] My boy!
1493
01:28:40,858 --> 01:28:42,701
[MUSIC PLAYS]
1494
01:28:42,860 --> 01:28:44,954
I've got so much love
in my heart for him,
1495
01:28:45,112 --> 01:28:48,366
and I just don't feel like me
when he's not around.
1496
01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:51,502
Yeah, there are boys
and there are boys,
1497
01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:55,005
- but he's a...
- ♪ Fine, fine boy
1498
01:28:55,164 --> 01:28:58,384
♪ I wanna tell the world
about the boy I love
1499
01:28:58,542 --> 01:29:01,466
♪ Just the kind of guy
I've been dreaming of
1500
01:29:01,628 --> 01:29:04,677
♪ He's so sincere
When he holds me tight
1501
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,266
♪ When I'm blue
He makes me feel all right
1502
01:29:11,472 --> 01:29:14,851
♪ He even takes me places
and buys me things
1503
01:29:15,017 --> 01:29:17,987
♪ But love is more important
than a diamond ring
1504
01:29:18,145 --> 01:29:21,399
♪ All I wanna do is
stay by his side
1505
01:29:21,565 --> 01:29:26,241
♪ Take care of him and
I'll be satisfied
1506
01:29:26,403 --> 01:29:29,202
♪ 'Cause he's got a sweet,
sweet kiss
1507
01:29:29,365 --> 01:29:31,333
♪ And a true, true heart
1508
01:29:31,492 --> 01:29:34,416
♪ Something tells me
that we'll never part
1509
01:29:34,578 --> 01:29:37,457
♪ He's got a sweet, sweet kiss
and a true, true heart
1510
01:29:37,623 --> 01:29:39,967
♪ And he's fine, fine, fine
1511
01:29:40,125 --> 01:29:43,095
♪ No, he's fine, fine, fine
1512
01:29:43,253 --> 01:29:46,757
♪ Let me tell you
He's a fine, fine boy
1513
01:29:49,927 --> 01:29:53,147
- ♪ Yeah
- ♪ Fine, fine boy
1514
01:29:53,305 --> 01:29:57,105
♪ I know he's fine
And he's mine
1515
01:29:57,267 --> 01:30:01,613
- ♪ He's a fine, fine boy
- ♪ Yeah, he's mine
1516
01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:05,697
- ♪ He's fine
- ♪ He's a fine, fine boy
1517
01:30:05,859 --> 01:30:08,487
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
1518
01:30:08,654 --> 01:30:16,209
♪ He's mine
He's a fine, fine boy ♪
1519
01:30:24,086 --> 01:30:27,465
- Whoo!
- [CROWD CHEERING]
1520
01:30:27,631 --> 01:30:29,975
[SPRINGSTEEN] Darlene Love!
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