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你们马六甲夜生活这么丰富的
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这面粉糕对于我而言
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它就是一种妈妈的味道
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妈妈的滋味
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哈哈哈
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他为了证明我们海南人会做云吞面
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他自己调配出这个口感
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然后他说
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你不要以为
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我们海南万宁人不会做云吞面
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这个是传说中的
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很早以前就有一些马六甲朋友跟我说
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你知道我们马六甲人
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我们吃叉烧饭是要淋那个咖喱汁的
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来了来了
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真的
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是有人晚上卖烧肉饭的
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之前 10多年前行情很好
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从这边排这边
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10多年前
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不是现在
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Aunty为什么晚上才来卖这种饭
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这种饭不是白天卖的吗
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之前我年轻
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是从5点开始卖
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傍晚5点
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不是 凌晨5点
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然后夜生活的人就越吃越少
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从4点OK 4点 3点
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2点到1点 然后有
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马六甲有什么夜生活会这么晚
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那之前是喝酒
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摇脚
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后来我就做到MMU学生
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MMU学生时候更早
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他们是11点 早期在哪里卖
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这里卖
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就这里卖
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早期是租档口
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现在是八不推车了
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我们对面烧
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烧了拿过来
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所以我在想
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晚上吃 这个当成夜宵来吃是很重的
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习惯了
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习惯了 一般上这种都是午餐吃的
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所以他们跟我讲晚上有人吃叉烧饭
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有 而且只开晚上
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我都有点惊讶
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所以以前我见光就死
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见光死
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所以我为了你
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我都从中午开始我就不吃饭了
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不吃饭
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我要准备来吃你晚上这个
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叉烧饭 叉烧饭
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来做一碟给我
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OK
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怎么样做
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怎么样好吃
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我跟你吃罢了
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OK
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我做这样One Set给你吃
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我是没有看过
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你不要吃这样多饭
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你说很饱
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你吃料
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是 是 吃料
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不要吃这样多饭
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神奇 我要看一下
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这个什么来的
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这个是炸蛋
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炸蛋
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你配一点 真的是蛋
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鸡蛋的蛋
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对 会 会order
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炸蛋
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不是豆腐卜
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不是 是炸蛋 OK
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炸蛋然后给你一点烧肉
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你敢吃肥吗
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敢吃肥 我最喜欢吃肥 叉烧
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叉烧是烤的还是煮的
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火炭烧的
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我在吉隆坡最喜欢吃那个叉烧头
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这个就是叉烧头
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叉烧头就是有点那个
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不过跟吉隆坡不一样
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吉隆坡是大块的
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是 是
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我们的是这样
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然后我就下我们的star给你
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特别
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咖喱 有放咖喱汁的
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这个
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是传说中的 这个呢
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这个是卤汁 掺一起
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有些食物
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我是先借由书本里面认识
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然后一直想要吃 都没有机会吃
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其中一道就是这个
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很早以前就有一些马六甲朋友跟我说
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你知道我们马六甲人
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我们吃叉烧饭是要淋那个咖喱汁的
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我觉得不可思议
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在我们的认知里面
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叉烧饭怎么可能会跟咖喱汁搭配
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而且你在雪隆一带 找叉烧饭档
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很少会配咖喱汁
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几乎没办法找到这个配合
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再加多一句
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我们有时候
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是晚上才来吃这个咖喱叉烧饭
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晚上吃咖喱叉烧饭
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这什么概念
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不是白天吃的吗
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为什么晚上吃
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所以制作单位跟我说
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今天晚上要吃这个咖喱叉烧饭
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我就很有期待而来了
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我觉得
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这个滋味真的是可以代表马六甲的
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整个所呈现出来的
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口感还不要太丰富
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本来叉烧就已经是带甜的
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加上咖喱汁的这种
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它咖喱汁又没有很辣
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而且颜色又弄得比较没有那么红
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所以整个的色调看起来
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又让你觉得很有食欲
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而且
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它做的方法是有点像我们讲的Banjir
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就是湿湿的
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好像灌上那个汁一样
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然后老板娘又对我比较好
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她给了我一个全套餐
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又有炸蛋
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就是那个炸的鸡蛋
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这种饭你一定要吃肥的烧肉
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肥的烧肉
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然后我又比较爱吃这种叉烧头
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就是烤的有点点
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就是焦的部分
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所以就这样子的一碟饭
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可以让我在两分钟内把它吃完
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她有什么秘诀
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我们要叫那个一直在旁边
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看我们录影的人
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过来是不是 请掌声
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邀请
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我们这个咖喱叉烧饭的阿莲姐
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阿莲姐登场
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很重要
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这个开场太重要了
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作为一个外地人
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我真的是看书 看到这道菜
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林金城先生写过 关于马六甲
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有一种吃叉烧饭的方式
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是放那个咖喱汁的
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我就一直记到现在
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所以我问你第一个问题
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阿莲 莲姐
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就你所知
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是谁开始发明这种吃法的
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谁发明这种吃法
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从以前的时候应该是有了
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只是我们跟人打工
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自己学烧
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就自己开档
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自己这样创业
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OK
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卖到将近有一点年龄了
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就10多年没有卖凌晨了
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所以以前是凌晨
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1点2点开始卖的
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有人来吃 有
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是人吗
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是人吗 我要想想一下
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妳要想一下
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那个时间很关键 因为我都赚了他们的钱
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那个钱是不是真钱 我忘了
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你要想一下
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要给我回味一下先
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真的是人来吃
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应该是 多吗
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很多
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差不多是半人半鬼
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酒鬼哈哈哈
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酒鬼是不是半人半鬼
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摇摇晃晃这样
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摇摇晃晃这样
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很特别
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也是要多谢他们来
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没有他们喝酒的人
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我哪里有生意
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其实我也是不会烧
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幕后的老板
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我的先生
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他不跑出来
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所以你是负责做什么的
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我负责拿刀剁
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你是负责斩肉的人
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和负责卖
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这样的量
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多快可以卖完
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卖完
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你8点半开
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不过也要到凌晨的
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因为也是要到夜的
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到3点这样
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所以现在晚上还是很多人过来吃的
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有一点老实讲
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现在行情坏一点
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要不然更多
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站住可以给你斩到收档
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要到夜一点
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12点这样会有人
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很多人会用自己生命的经验
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或者生命饮食的一些观感
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去判断一个食物的好坏
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或许我们不需要那么着急的下判断
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能不能先让我们稍微持平一点
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花一点点时间去品尝它的滋味
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因为一方水土养一方人
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当地的食物为什么是煮成这个样子
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为什么
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我们倾向于用这样的一种调味料
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为什么我们会用这样的一种配菜
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可能都和我们当地的文化
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食品
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还有我们就近所取得的食材息息相关
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而如果还没有先去观察
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或者是品尝个中的滋味
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太快的下判断的话
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会不会你就错过了马六甲的好滋味
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三宝井这个地方
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其实每次都想去
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我也在问我自己
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去这样的茶餐室
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到底要寻找什么样的滋味
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因为我们都知道茶餐室
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或者我们俗称Kopitiam对不对
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都有一些共同的食物
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那你去每个地方找这些茶餐室吃
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有些人说他是吃一种熟悉的感觉
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但是我每次去吃的时候
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都想要寻找一些不同的滋味
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老板娘 还有吗
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我要吃鱼鲛面
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鱼鲛面是用什么面
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用黄面
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鱼圆跟鱼饼 或者也是可以吃云吞面
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也可以
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因为我们云吞面比较老招牌
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老板
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哈哈哈哈
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老板卖了40多年了
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40年卖云吞面
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那你是平时面薄多还是 幼面比较多
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好 这样我吃一粒幼面
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可以
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幼面一粒
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有 我有吃辣的 拌在里面
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40几年
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那你是以前自己学的还是
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我是偷师的
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慢慢看 慢慢看
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就是一直吃
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然后看别人怎么样做
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然后自己再来
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自己再来开始研发
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对 对 我都不知道倒了多少罐
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掺来掺去
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不适合就倒掉
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就都倒掉
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哈哈哈哈
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你们是什么籍贯的人
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海南人
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海南人 阿伯
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我也是这里人
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我是万宁
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万宁 万宁
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万宁阿伯
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做这个云吞面
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我都不怕了
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(字幕君已放弃)
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就是我
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我记得
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好特别
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就是说
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真的我有听过 他们讲海南人不会做云吞面
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他们讲我们只会做鸡饭
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我觉得这是偏见
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所以讲他们吃了我的云吞面
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他们没有话讲
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不是讲多好吃 可以下口就好了
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绝对是可以下口的
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要不然我可以做40多年
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我还是这样 那你这边
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这边应该挂上我们的堂号
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万宁哈哈哈
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万宁云吞面
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杀出名堂
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儿子女儿不接 不接
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现在的年轻人
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不接这种东西的
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工多 油腻
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现在都是要坐office的人
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冷气房打领带 不用洗碗
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(字幕君)
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(又一次)
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(下线)
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辣椒 总是有意外的发现
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这就是一个意外的发现
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我这海南人
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而且是万宁人
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哈哈哈
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他为了证明我们海南人会做云吞面
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他偷师 他吃了很多档
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然后自己在不断地调整
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那个酱油的味道
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因为我们知道
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云吞面的灵魂就是那个酱油
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所以我这位阿伯
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我们海南乡亲 我们彼此互称阿Go
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他自己调配出这个口感
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然后他说
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你不要以为我们海南万宁人
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不会做云吞面
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你看我都卖了30几年40年了
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而且他还偷偷跟我讲 你最好不要来拍
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因为我做不及
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哈哈哈
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他一搬来这边 我就跟他来这边
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因为是习惯他的味道了
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就好像
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我们所谓讲是习惯了一种他的味道
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所以我就会跟他
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我觉得是个人口味
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就好像我们喜欢一样东西
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为这么有些人不喜欢
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我偏偏又喜欢那样东西
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所以我就喜欢吃他的云吞面
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所以云吞面也好
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每个小吃也好
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其实要怎么样判断出好吃和不好吃
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那还是一个比较复杂和困难的问题
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颜色就是会开始吵架了
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我们在这个节目里面有谈过黑派和白派
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然后到了马六甲就是不黑不白
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所以马六甲作为一个中间地带
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就有白派 也有黑派
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还有不黑不白派
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哈哈哈
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但是我还是觉得一个面好不好吃
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和我对于这个面的过程里面
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所发现的乐趣
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更有关
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因为我常常觉得
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我的味觉是比较海纳百川的
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我不太会先预设了一种东西
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一种云吞面叫好吃的面
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我举个例子
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我刚开始去香港吃
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香港云吞面的时候
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我觉得极难吃
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为什么 他的面是很硬的
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硬硬的 他们还告诉我
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真正的云吞面是这种口感
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那个面条接近有一点点生硬
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那你嚼起来才有那种嚼劲
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可是这种面条到了马来西亚以后
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就变得比较软
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那硬的口感比较好吃
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软的口感
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如果从香港人的角度
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会不会觉得
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这是不是变种了
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但是吃惯面软的 我们去到香港
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是不是没有煮熟
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所以我想每一个面都有它的滋味
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Aunty
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你卖的面粉糕是捏的
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捏的 手做的
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我要一碗
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但是那个
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面粉糕少一点
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一半就好了
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汤其他都
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照旧
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你卖多少年了
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10多年了
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这个是自己发明的还是
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是
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我妈妈也是这样
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我觉得一开始我们都是这样
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妈妈开始做
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然后过后我们自己也会做
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我现在也会做
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所以我要吃你做的
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哈哈哈一半就好 Aunty
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慢慢吃
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OK OK OK
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有妈妈的味道
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这个阿姨
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她是坚持要用瓷碗把这个面粉糕汤
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和面粉糕端出来
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我看到的时候
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我是有一点点感动 难得看到
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还能够坚持用这个瓷碗端出来
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我们都知道
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瓷碗对于这个面食类的保温
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是非常重要的
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从汤头到这个面粉糕的嚼感 质感
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其实就各有各的吃法
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有些人偏向就是口感比较有嚼劲的
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有人较Q感的
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那可能是觉得吃起来要有那个劲道
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有些人觉得他吃的绵密一点
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觉得这样的话
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那个牙齿就不会咬的很费劲
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这也是一种
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但是无论是哪一种
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它就是其中一道
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马来西亚寻常家庭里面
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可能是第一道制作的面食类食品
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在我的成长记忆里面
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我就常常发现到
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只要妈妈开始在和面的时候
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那就是我们吃面粉糕
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所以面粉糕对于我而言
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它就是一种妈妈的味道
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妈妈的滋味
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那一碗一碗的面粉糕
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我吃的都是熟悉的家常味
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因此我常觉得
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面粉糕应该是最接近我们家常的
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各家都能做这个面粉糕
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然后各家也都能够自主创业
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在小贩中心
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或者是在熟食档
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或者是在Kopitiam里面开面粉糕店
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那你说吃面粉糕到底是吃什么滋味
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那当然是家常滋味
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