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Is there someone inside you?
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I love, love,
love possession films.
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Sink.
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Possession stories
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touch on our fear
of losing control...
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control of our bodies,
of our lives, of our mind.
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One day, we could be
our normal selves,
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and the next day
be a raging lunatic
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spouting arcane languages
or obscenities.
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The sow is mine.
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both: The power of
Christ compels you!
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"The Exorcist" is held up
as being the holy grail,
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rightfully so,
of possession movies.
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I'm the devil.
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The world was afraid
of this movie,
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and they were afraid of me.
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"The Omen" is like
my hands-down
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favorite horror movie.
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Look at me, Damien.
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There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
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Your loved one is not
who you assumed they were,
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and we saw that
to wonderful effect
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in both
of the "Evil Dead" films.
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You're bitten by your
girlfriend who's possessed.
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Your hand's
gonna get possessed,
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so your hand's
gonna attack you.
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Looks like something bit you.
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"Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me.
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It was a new way in.
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Get out.
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"Get Out"
is a possession film.
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It is a possession film.
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A force that's evil.
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They have nothing
but bad intentions for you.
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Oh, my God!
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What am I seeing happen?
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The fear that demons
will enter our bodies
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and make us do terrible things
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has haunted mankind
for millennia.
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In recent times,
it has inspired some of
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the most frightening films
ever made...
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Fever dreams like
"Night of the Demons"
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and "Hellraiser"...
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We'll tear your soul apart.
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Fictionalized
case histories,
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such as "The Exorcism
of Emily Rose"
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and "The Last Exorcism."
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The nightmare of being taken
over by a sinister force
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can be seen as a metaphor
for mental illness,
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but what if these films
reflect a deeper truth...
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a truth about the nature
of good and evil?
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In the name of Jesus Christ,
the saints, and all the angels,
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I command you
to reveal yourself!
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Demons are real.
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We're so used
to seeing the world
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in just very few dimensions...
time and space,
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depth and appearance.
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There is so much more at work
in our universe
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than that which
just meets the naked eye.
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Though our fears
are ancient,
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films about demonic
possession
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are a relatively
recent phenomenon.
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Hollywood's self-censoring
Motion Picture Production Code
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set strict rules on content
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from the early 1930s
to the late 1960s.
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There is no room
on the screen
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at any time for pictures which
offend against common decency.
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Outside of the Swedish film
"Haxan" from 1922,
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full-on demonic possessions
do not appear on screen
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until 1973...
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the year of "The Exorcist."
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Obviously, "The Exorcist"
is held up
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as being the holy grail,
rightfully so,
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of possession movies.
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"The Exorcist"
is about a priest
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that had his own demons
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he had been following
years prior.
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Years later, he finds himself
in the same position
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with this same demon,
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but this time,
it's inside of a young girl.
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The whole thing was to
draw in Father Merrin
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to get him to do war...
battle one more time.
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Captain Howdy?
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Linda Blair's character,
Regan,
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becomes another person because
this demon is inside of her.
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- I'm Damien Karras.
- And I'm the devil.
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Now kindly undo
these straps.
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If you're the devil, why not
make the straps disappear?
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That's much too vulgar
a display of power, Karras.
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Satan plays the role
of Satan.
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I don't know if that's Satan
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or a bunch of demons.
Doesn't matter.
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- Where's Regan?
- In here with us.
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The actor is really the one
selling the idea of possession.
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So you've got to have
a great actor
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to play somebody
who's possessed.
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- Ahh!
- Oh!
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Keep away! The sow is mine!
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Billy Friedkin, the director,
really wanted to make sure
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that Regan was just any generic
all-American little girl.
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Her transformation
from this very sweet,
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very typical young girl...
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Oh, Mom,
can't we get a horse?
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Into a monster I think
comments on this anxiety
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that the young people
of the country were moving away
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from the conservative
norms of society.
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It was 1973,
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so we were recently
out of Vietnam,
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and the hippie movement
was still in full swing.
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There was definitely
upheaval going on,
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social upheaval going on,
and generational conflict.
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You have a mother who's
trying to deal with a daughter
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who has suddenly become
something else,
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and this is what
a lot of parents felt like.
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The horror stuff
doesn't really come in
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until, like, the second half,
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but the first half
is all sort of upsetting images
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and strange depictions
of medical procedures.
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It isn't just that medical
science is inadequate;
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it's that medical science
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is even kind of destructive
toward the child.
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Religion is really
the only answer.
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You ever heard of exorcism?
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By the time
the horror stuff happens,
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the audience is pretty
much desensitized.
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They're already pummeled by
the movie that they've seen,
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and it was extremely
manipulative,
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and not a very nice movie
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in the sense of being good
to the audience.
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Every time they track down
the hallway to the door,
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the audience did not...
they wanted to but didn't...
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"Yes, no, yes, no"...
to go into that door.
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It's a hard movie to watch.
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What happens to Linda Blair
is just... it's terrible.
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The scene where I'm sitting
up and down really fast.
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Please, Mother, make it stop!
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It's basically, like,
a metal brace,
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and then I'm tied in
on each side.
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Unfortunately, they didn't
tie it in really good.
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It fractured my lower spine,
so that's what's on camera,
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and the screaming
and yelling is real.
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Make it stop!
It's killing me!
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My mother had gotten
a call saying,
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"Can Jamie audition
for 'The Exorcist'?"
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And my mother said,
"Uh, no. I don't think so."
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And then it came out,
and we screened it
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for my 15th birthday.
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"The Exorcist."
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Your mother's in here
with us, Karras.
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Would you like
to leave a message?
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It freaked me so badly
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that for the rest
of my high school life,
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my friends made fun of me,
and they would taunt me.
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"Dami. Dami. Dami, why you
do this to me, Dami?"
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Dami.
Why you do this to me?
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"Dami, why you do this
to me, Dami?"
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You're not my mother!
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That movie scared me so much
that I'm Jewish,
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and it made me
believe in the devil.
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I would sleep with a rosary
next to my bed every night.
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I have full-blown
"Exorcist" PTSD, so...
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What an excellent day
for an exorcism.
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The whole thing about
"The Exorcist" was, like,
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it may be too intense
for human beings.
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That it wasn't just
a horror film in '73
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when it came out; it was...
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You were
experiencing the devil.
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Yeah, and that people, like,
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committed suicide
after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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or people were put in
insane asylums
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after they saw "The Exorcist,"
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and every new issue of
the "National Enquirer" had,
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you know, "My son went crazy
and is in a straitjacket.
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How watching
'The Exorcist' ruined my life."
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I dream of reviews
like that.
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People went back
to the church in droves
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after that film came out.
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The world was afraid
of this movie...
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and they were afraid of me,
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and they wanted to have answers
about good and evil
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and was the devil
really coming?
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There's no place
to hide... your religion,
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your relationship to God.
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No, none of that.
There's no safe haven anywhere.
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Even the afterlife isn't safe.
I mean, you're gonna get there
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and be in hell
like poor Father Damien.
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I mean, it's this idea that
there's literally no escape,
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not even if you're dead.
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That is, you know,
to me the idea of pure horror.
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No!
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I think it's the greatest
horror film ever made,
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and that's the horror film
that I think that will never
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be duplicated, all right?
I don't see...
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I agree. I don't think
it'll ever be beat.
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"The Exorcist" drew on
all the resources
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of Hollywood in the 1970s,
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one of the peak periods
of American film.
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Decades later,
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a first-time director
shooting in his house
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proved you don't need a big
budget or special effects
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to bring a demonic possession
to terrifying life.
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I can feel it watching me.
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In 2007, software engineer
Oren Peli
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decided to make
a low-budget movie
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about a demonic possession.
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The result was
"Paranormal Activity,"
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the most profitable film
of all time,
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and one of the most
unnerving movies ever made.
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Oren made the movie
for $15,000.
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He shot it at his house.
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He had a crew
of about three people.
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And the crew consisted of
my girlfriend at the time,
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and then my best friend,
Amir, I told him,
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"I'm gonna shoot a movie.
Do you want to help me?"
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And he said,
"Sure. It sounds fun,
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but I don't know anything
about making movies."
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I said, "Perfect.
Neither do I."
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All right,
we're operational, babe.
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Ooh.
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Shot entirely in
the found footage style,
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the story follows
Micah and Katie,
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a young suburban couple
who move into a new house
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that seems to be haunted.
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In fact, Katie is being
tormented by a demon
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that feeds
off of negative energy.
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both:
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out there.
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Aah!
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There is a difference
between a ghost and a demon.
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Ghosts are simply the spirits
of people who died.
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They don't want to move on,
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and they kind of linger around
in their own dimension.
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But demons
are inherently evil,
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want to possess people...
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Feel it?
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I feel it breathing on me.
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But a demon is attached
to a person.
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Leaving the house
doesn't really solve anything.
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They're still gonna follow you
wherever you're gonna go.
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It's not the house.
It's me.
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You know,
wherever I go, it goes.
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Micah sets up cameras
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to record
the supernatural events,
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which makes things worse.
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It felt very much like
what would happen to anyone
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if they were
going through that.
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What is your quest?
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The sounds,
wanting to record it,
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playing with the Ouija board.
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Got something to say?
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- That moment...
- When he was talking to
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- a Ouija board.
- Yeah.
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- You're like...
- Oh, I was like,
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"Run, mother. Run!"
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As the couple grows
more desperate,
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the demon trying
to possess Katie
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grows stronger and stronger.
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Just let's go.
Please, let's go.
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"Paranormal Activity"
was a game-changer for me,
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because it just showed,
with a minimalist approach,
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you can scare the out
of people with mostly pacing...
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- Mm-hmm.
- And the way
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you tell the story.
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I mean, like,
what happens in that movie?
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A couple sheets come off,
you know, the bed,
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the girl gets pulled
through the door,
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and yet, when they come up on,
like, day 28 or whatnot,
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and you know some
about to go down,
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I remember the entire audience
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going, "Ohhh."
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Aaaaaahhhhh!
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Oh...
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There's something about
the vulnerability
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that you have
while you're asleep,
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and which I think is
something very kind of
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engrained in human nature
from the days we were cavemen,
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and you don't know if a tiger
is gonna come into your cave
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and kill you
while you're asleep.
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And the fact that that movie
shattered that space and said,
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"Well, when you go
home tonight,
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"you're gonna be thinking
about what this couple
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endured in that bedroom,"
it's incredibly effective.
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"Paranormal Activity's"
goal was simple:
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to scare the audience.
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Jen?
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The horror/comedy
"Jennifer's Body"
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had a serious
and uniquely feminist agenda,
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using demonic possession
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to comment on the hell
of being a teenage girl
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in a culture
obsessed with appearance.
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Hi, Jennifer.
You look really pretty.
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What up, Craig?
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Jennifer is a alpha
female bitch
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who is beautiful and popular,
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and Needy is her
worshipful nerdy friend.
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Jennifer is actually
a really intelligent,
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clever, interesting person,
but nobody cares about that.
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Jennifer is cursed
before she is cursed,
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because all people can do
is look at her,
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as opposed to engage
with her.
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It's an incredibly dehumanized
place to be living in.
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She does have
this incredible power
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that comes with her beauty.
She uses it.
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These are like
smart bombs, okay?
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You point them
in the right direction,
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and gets real.
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But it's not nearly
as satisfying to her
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as when she actually gets
these supernatural powers.
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Jennifer is the victim of
a demonic ritual gone wrong.
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This rock band, in an attempt
to become famous...
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Do you know how hard it is
to make it
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as an indie band these days?
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Attempt to murder her because
they think she is a virgin
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and that they are
sacrificing a virgin.
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But she is not a virgin,
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and as a result,
the spell goes haywire,
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and Jennifer is possessed
by a demon
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and starts eating boys
to satisfy the demon,
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and Needy has to stop her.
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I am rooting for Jennifer
when I watch the movie.
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This idea of just being,
like, hot and invincible...
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I feel so scrumptious.
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Was about how teenage girls
are objectified,
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it was about
female sexual appetites.
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It was about the idea
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of puberty
being a transformative thing
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and using a sort of
a monstrous transformation
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as a way of talking about that.
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Are you scared?
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The notion of the female
as monstrous
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in itself has been
a central tenet of horror,
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and that's what remains
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profoundly meaningful
to me about horror
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is it's one of the few genres
that's had the guts to say,
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as a culture, we are terrified
of women and girls.
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Hi.
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But it was so freeing
for me
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to be able to explore
those themes in a completely
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just heightened gory
bananas atmosphere.
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You know, they have this fight
at the end of the movie,
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and Needy stabs
Jennifer in the heart,
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and it's like my way
of saying, like,
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"You're all staring
at this girl's breasts..."
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- My tit.
- No. Your heart.
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But what this is really
about is her feelings.
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You don't get to do
over-the-top stuff like that
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in a more understated genre.
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You can only do that
in a horror movie.
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You know what?
You were never a good friend.
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"Jennifer's Body"
got a mixed reception
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on its release,
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but the director's cut
is now a cult favorite.
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You got a tampon?
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Stylistically,
it owes a debt
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to one of the most influential
cult movies of all time:
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"The Evil Dead."
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When it comes to demonic
possession movies,
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few can match the manic energy
and no-holds-barred horror
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of Sam Raimi's film,
"The Evil Dead."
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Hey, Scotty, what's this
place like, anyway?
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Well, the guy
that's renting it says
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it's an old place...
a little run down,
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but it's right up
in the mountains.
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"The Evil Dead"
is about a group
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of fairly dumb college kids
who go out to a remote cabin
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in the woods
to have a fun little break.
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They see the cabin.
They should be running
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00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:11,272
in the opposite direction
to the nearest Motel 6,
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but instead, they go in.
They promptly find
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a reel-to-reel recorder
in the basement,
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which of course they play.
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It contains
demonic incantations
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that wake up the dead.
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Shut it off!
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Oh, my God!
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Dead rise and proceed
to possess these kids
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one by one, and carnage
and mayhem ensues.
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Oh!
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It seems like
the simplest setup,
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but man,
oh, man, it was relentless.
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And you're just,
like, blown away.
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Why have you disturbed
our sleep,
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awakened us from our
ancient slumber?
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You will die!
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What is fascinating
about the possession genre
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of horror films
is your loved one
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is not who
you assumed they were.
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That's the most
terrifying thing,
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and we saw that
to wonderful effect
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in both of
the "Evil Dead" films.
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And it was this grainy,
16-millimeter movie
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that you could tell was,
like, made by amateurs
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with that kind of, like,
single-spotlight lighting
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and everything else.
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But at the same time
was really scary,
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00:19:35,923 --> 00:19:38,046
and... I mean, Sam was trying
to make a scary movie.
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The first person had to get
injured by one of these demons,
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so we did it the first
character's kneeling down,
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00:19:47,323 --> 00:19:50,777
and the demon gets a pencil
and stabs it in the ankle.
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That one got a big reaction
out of the audience,
401
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'cause I don't think they knew
402
00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:01,553
how visceral the movie
was gonna be until it started.
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00:20:01,594 --> 00:20:04,341
I fear that the only way
to stop those possessed
404
00:20:04,382 --> 00:20:05,964
by the spirits of the book
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00:20:06,006 --> 00:20:08,710
is through the act
of bodily dismemberment.
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00:20:08,751 --> 00:20:11,039
So whenever you hear that
you can only stop something
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00:20:11,081 --> 00:20:12,721
through bodily dismemberment,
you know you're gonna be in
408
00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:15,283
for a good show of gore
and horror, right?
409
00:20:21,774 --> 00:20:23,438
Ohh! Ohh!
410
00:20:25,352 --> 00:20:29,222
There is always the standard
aspect of the scream queen...
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00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:34,797
Sam wanted to up it.
412
00:20:34,838 --> 00:20:38,667
He thought it was one thing
to have a woman scream,
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00:20:38,708 --> 00:20:41,703
but what if you made
a man scream like a girl?
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00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:48,902
Like, "I want it to be
that horrifying."
415
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,724
There was also something
else about "Evil Dead"
416
00:20:56,766 --> 00:20:59,054
that made it
particularly cool was,
417
00:20:59,095 --> 00:21:00,551
well, you had to get it.
418
00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,590
Not everyone could get it.
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00:21:05,502 --> 00:21:07,458
It was cheap,
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00:21:07,499 --> 00:21:10,745
so you had to be able to
not just look beyond that;
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00:21:10,786 --> 00:21:13,034
you had to embrace it.
422
00:21:16,321 --> 00:21:18,650
It is scary,
but there is a really weird
423
00:21:18,692 --> 00:21:22,603
sense of humor that,
if you're not in line with it,
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you're gonna think, "Oh,
that's just a piece of junk."
425
00:21:27,928 --> 00:21:30,508
In 1981, "The Evil Dead"
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00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:33,046
launched the career
of its gifted director,
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00:21:33,088 --> 00:21:35,418
21-year-old Sam Raimi.
428
00:21:36,833 --> 00:21:40,660
Six years later, Raimi
returned with "Evil Dead 2,"
429
00:21:40,702 --> 00:21:44,613
a wildly creative remake
of the first film.
430
00:21:44,655 --> 00:21:46,360
With "Evil Dead 2"
in particular,
431
00:21:46,402 --> 00:21:48,024
I think Sam Raimi just said,
432
00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:50,146
"You know what?
Let's just go for it."
433
00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:53,392
Let's just embrace the fun.
434
00:21:54,349 --> 00:21:56,263
You're bitten by your
girlfriend,
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00:21:56,304 --> 00:21:58,260
who's possessed, your hand's
gonna get possessed,
436
00:21:58,301 --> 00:22:00,007
so your hand's gonna
attack you.
437
00:22:04,417 --> 00:22:05,999
It was just a long,
grueling sequence.
438
00:22:11,533 --> 00:22:13,113
It's like,
get the Three Stooges,
439
00:22:13,155 --> 00:22:14,487
but give them a chainsaw...
440
00:22:16,775 --> 00:22:18,730
And see what would happen.
441
00:22:27,177 --> 00:22:28,925
Groovy.
442
00:22:28,965 --> 00:22:33,084
If you're a movie-mad
young guy in your early 20s
443
00:22:33,126 --> 00:22:35,748
and you see "Evil Dead 2,"
444
00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:37,870
and you see
that shooting style,
445
00:22:37,912 --> 00:22:40,074
it's like,
"Well, what's the point
446
00:22:40,116 --> 00:22:42,654
of ever shooting
any movie not like that?"
447
00:22:42,696 --> 00:22:44,568
- I know.
- All right? That seemed like,
448
00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:46,899
"Okay, a new shooting style
has been developed,
449
00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:49,478
and everything else looks
old-fashioned by comparison."
450
00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,181
Every single thing
just seems
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00:22:53,222 --> 00:22:54,928
old-fashioned and dated
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00:22:54,970 --> 00:22:56,384
unless you're doing that.
453
00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:03,499
"The Evil Dead"
pitted a regular guy
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00:23:03,541 --> 00:23:05,663
against a horde of demons,
455
00:23:05,705 --> 00:23:07,493
but what chance do you have
456
00:23:07,535 --> 00:23:10,406
when you're up
against Satan himself?
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00:23:15,399 --> 00:23:16,980
Christianity teaches
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00:23:17,021 --> 00:23:18,413
that Jesus Christ
was the son of God,
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00:23:18,437 --> 00:23:19,976
born of mortal woman.
460
00:23:20,017 --> 00:23:22,222
What if Satan decided
that he too
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00:23:22,264 --> 00:23:24,053
would father a child?
462
00:23:24,095 --> 00:23:28,214
In 1968, Roman Polanski's
film "Rosemary's Baby"
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00:23:28,256 --> 00:23:31,792
explored the links between
pregnancy, parenthood,
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00:23:31,834 --> 00:23:34,372
and demonic possession.
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00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:36,244
You're pregnant.
466
00:23:36,285 --> 00:23:38,740
"Rosemary's Baby"
is a really interesting film,
467
00:23:38,782 --> 00:23:40,904
because, artistically,
it's one of the best films
468
00:23:40,946 --> 00:23:43,275
to come out in that era
and probably ever.
469
00:23:43,317 --> 00:23:47,311
- I'm Rosemary Woodhouse.
- Uh, we're in 7E.
470
00:23:47,353 --> 00:23:50,140
That movie made $30 million
471
00:23:50,182 --> 00:23:53,636
back when movies
didn't make $30 million,
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00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:55,965
not in their first run.
473
00:23:56,007 --> 00:24:00,833
I mean, if a movie
made $12 million, "Oh, wow."
474
00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:02,914
- That's a huge hit.
- That's a smash.
475
00:24:02,955 --> 00:24:04,994
- It's a phenomenon.
- It was a phenomenon.
476
00:24:05,036 --> 00:24:06,742
And the devil
had never been dealt with
477
00:24:06,784 --> 00:24:09,904
in that realistic
a form before.
478
00:24:09,945 --> 00:24:11,817
It's a hugely
important film,
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00:24:11,859 --> 00:24:13,358
because it's portraying
a woman
480
00:24:13,398 --> 00:24:16,227
at the height
of second-wave feminism.
481
00:24:16,269 --> 00:24:18,849
It also coincides
with a rise in interest
482
00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,637
in all kinds of alternative
religions and occultism
483
00:24:21,678 --> 00:24:23,301
that was happening
in the '60s.
484
00:24:23,343 --> 00:24:25,672
It was a period
where there was, you know,
485
00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:28,169
questioning, you know, God,
the existence of God.
486
00:24:28,210 --> 00:24:29,791
I think it was even on
"Time" magazine,
487
00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:31,332
you know, "Is God Dead?"
488
00:24:31,373 --> 00:24:33,745
No, you're not religious,
my dear, are you?
489
00:24:33,786 --> 00:24:37,156
I was brought up a Catholic.
Now I don't know.
490
00:24:37,197 --> 00:24:38,820
In "Rosemary's Baby,"
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00:24:38,862 --> 00:24:41,483
the heroine
is drugged by Satanists.
492
00:24:41,525 --> 00:24:44,438
Then the devil literally
enters her through rape.
493
00:24:44,479 --> 00:24:46,934
- She's awake. She sees.
- Can't see or hear.
494
00:24:46,975 --> 00:24:48,848
She's like dead. Now sing.
495
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,882
Rosemary becomes pregnant
with Satan's child.
496
00:24:53,923 --> 00:24:57,502
This is no dream.
This is really happening!
497
00:24:57,544 --> 00:25:00,581
"Rosemary's Baby"
was a possession movie.
498
00:25:00,622 --> 00:25:03,951
It was about someone carrying
the seed of Satan within her
499
00:25:03,993 --> 00:25:06,115
and giving birth
to Satan's child.
500
00:25:06,156 --> 00:25:11,315
This is actually
how Satan or his minions
501
00:25:11,357 --> 00:25:13,479
can infest each of us
502
00:25:13,521 --> 00:25:16,058
and draw out
the evil within us.
503
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,347
It, to me,
remains a metaphor
504
00:25:18,389 --> 00:25:20,552
about domestic violence,
505
00:25:20,593 --> 00:25:23,880
about emotional violence
in relationships
506
00:25:23,922 --> 00:25:25,461
between men and women,
507
00:25:25,503 --> 00:25:27,958
largely inflicted
by men onto women.
508
00:25:27,999 --> 00:25:29,349
I didn't want to
miss baby night.
509
00:25:29,373 --> 00:25:30,870
You... while I was out?
510
00:25:30,912 --> 00:25:32,576
And a couple of my nails
were ragged,
511
00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:36,612
and it was kind of fun
in a necrophile sort of way.
512
00:25:38,567 --> 00:25:40,458
When I saw "Rosemary's Baby"
when I was very young,
513
00:25:40,482 --> 00:25:42,787
I don't think I thought, "Oh,
this is female consciousness,"
514
00:25:42,811 --> 00:25:45,599
but obviously,
there aren't that many movies
515
00:25:45,641 --> 00:25:48,802
from within a young woman's
point of view.
516
00:25:48,844 --> 00:25:51,466
We know Polanski's guilty
of all these things
517
00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:54,170
in his personal life,
but as a filmmaker,
518
00:25:54,212 --> 00:25:57,208
he's incredibly sympathetic
to the female point of view.
519
00:25:57,249 --> 00:25:59,121
And the relationship
between Rosemary
520
00:25:59,163 --> 00:26:01,410
and her husband is fantastic.
521
00:26:01,411 --> 00:26:03,948
John Cassavetes'
amazing performance
522
00:26:03,989 --> 00:26:05,612
as the desperate actor
523
00:26:05,653 --> 00:26:07,901
who will do anything
to get that big break.
524
00:26:07,942 --> 00:26:09,939
Let's have a baby,
all right?
525
00:26:09,981 --> 00:26:11,769
Rosemary's very much
the lovely,
526
00:26:11,811 --> 00:26:14,058
submissive wife who is there
to help her husband out,
527
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,930
and what that gets her
528
00:26:15,972 --> 00:26:18,469
is getting impregnated
by the devil.
529
00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:20,549
Her husband basically
sells her to Satan
530
00:26:20,591 --> 00:26:22,504
in exchange for a Broadway hit.
531
00:26:22,546 --> 00:26:25,084
Oh, I got the part.
532
00:26:25,126 --> 00:26:28,038
It was a hell of
a way to get it.
533
00:26:29,703 --> 00:26:31,301
One of the things
I really love about horror
534
00:26:31,325 --> 00:26:33,572
and the nightmares
that it touches on
535
00:26:33,613 --> 00:26:37,191
are the idea of security
and a stable, normal place
536
00:26:37,233 --> 00:26:39,355
that turns out
to be a place of danger,
537
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:43,058
or a person who seems
to be a friendly person.
538
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,736
And, of course,
one of the greatest things
539
00:26:44,764 --> 00:26:46,262
in "Rosemary's Baby"
is the neighbors.
540
00:26:48,009 --> 00:26:50,423
The central figure
in this patriarchal crush
541
00:26:50,464 --> 00:26:52,045
is Ruth Gordon.
542
00:26:52,087 --> 00:26:54,458
Hi there! We're not
bothering you, are we?
543
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:56,830
I heard you come in.
It certainly wasn't very long.
544
00:26:56,871 --> 00:26:58,910
- Ta-da!
- Who comes in with her
545
00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:00,741
multicolored scarves
and her accent
546
00:27:00,783 --> 00:27:03,903
and delivers
a series of death blows
547
00:27:03,945 --> 00:27:07,398
to everything that
poor Rosemary stands for.
548
00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:10,019
- Here.
- What is in it? Tannis root?
549
00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:13,348
A little bit of that,
a little bit some other things.
550
00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:16,010
They're the kind of neighbors
you kind of... all right...
551
00:27:16,052 --> 00:27:17,401
You sort of want to
avoid them...
552
00:27:17,425 --> 00:27:18,757
- Yeah.
- But you're nice to them.
553
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,338
- They're nosy...
- They're harmless.
554
00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,377
They're harmless,
and that they are, you know,
555
00:27:22,418 --> 00:27:23,916
essentially agents of the...
556
00:27:23,957 --> 00:27:25,580
- of the devil.
- The devil.
557
00:27:25,622 --> 00:27:27,286
We're your friends,
Rosemary.
558
00:27:27,328 --> 00:27:29,325
There's nothing to be
afraid of, Rosemary.
559
00:27:29,367 --> 00:27:31,031
Honest and truly there isn't.
560
00:27:31,073 --> 00:27:33,277
Another thing that I think
young women
561
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,441
really can relate to
in "Rosemary's Baby,"
562
00:27:35,483 --> 00:27:37,605
- no one believes her.
- One thing is for sure.
563
00:27:37,646 --> 00:27:39,893
They have a coven,
and they want my baby.
564
00:27:39,934 --> 00:27:43,221
Certainly seems that way.
565
00:27:43,263 --> 00:27:45,260
To me, there's no scarier
moment in the movie
566
00:27:45,302 --> 00:27:47,882
than when you realize
her doctor is...
567
00:27:47,923 --> 00:27:49,587
has turned on her.
568
00:27:49,628 --> 00:27:51,085
That feeling of the person
569
00:27:51,127 --> 00:27:52,600
that you've put
your ultimate trust in,
570
00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:54,205
like your obstetrician,
this guy who's,
571
00:27:54,247 --> 00:27:55,721
like, tending to your body
and your femininity,
572
00:27:55,745 --> 00:27:58,575
and he is handing you over
to the satanists.
573
00:27:58,615 --> 00:28:00,447
We're gonna go home
and rest.
574
00:28:00,488 --> 00:28:01,986
That's all it takes.
575
00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:04,233
Nothing supernatural
happens, actually,
576
00:28:04,275 --> 00:28:06,438
for the entire course
of the movie.
577
00:28:06,479 --> 00:28:08,352
You know,
she could just be paranoid.
578
00:28:08,394 --> 00:28:12,721
She could be suffering from
some weird pregnancy delusions.
579
00:28:20,334 --> 00:28:23,081
What have you done to it?
580
00:28:23,123 --> 00:28:24,995
What have you done
to its eyes?
581
00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:27,242
He has his
father's eyes.
582
00:28:27,283 --> 00:28:29,197
It's not until
she actually says,
583
00:28:29,239 --> 00:28:31,609
"What have you done
to his eyes?"
584
00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:35,646
that there is finally
a physical manifestation
585
00:28:35,688 --> 00:28:37,019
of what
she's been talking about.
586
00:28:37,061 --> 00:28:38,891
- God is dead!
- Hail Satan!
587
00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:40,805
Satan lives!
588
00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:43,426
I made the mistake
of showing it to my wife
589
00:28:43,468 --> 00:28:46,006
after I got her impregnated.
590
00:28:46,048 --> 00:28:48,003
Oh, God!
591
00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:49,459
She's like,
"I've never seen it."
592
00:28:49,501 --> 00:28:50,850
"What? You've never seen
'Rosemary's Baby'?
593
00:28:50,874 --> 00:28:52,580
We're watching
'Rosemary's Baby. ""
594
00:28:52,622 --> 00:28:53,994
I didn't think about how weird
595
00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:56,158
that might be for someone
who was pregnant,
596
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,948
and it really played
on her fears
597
00:28:57,988 --> 00:29:03,273
that we were gonna have
the antichrist as a child.
598
00:29:03,314 --> 00:29:04,896
Uh, it was a bad call.
599
00:29:04,937 --> 00:29:06,560
"Rosemary's Baby"
is a movie
600
00:29:06,601 --> 00:29:09,056
about the dark side
of pregnancy.
601
00:29:09,097 --> 00:29:10,762
Richard Donner's film
"The Omen"
602
00:29:10,803 --> 00:29:12,884
takes things one step further
603
00:29:12,926 --> 00:29:14,881
with a violent vision
of parents
604
00:29:14,923 --> 00:29:18,251
at the mercy
of the ultimate problem child:
605
00:29:18,293 --> 00:29:20,457
the spawn of Satan.
606
00:29:24,076 --> 00:29:25,490
When the Jews return to Zion
607
00:29:25,532 --> 00:29:28,486
"and a comet fills the sky,
608
00:29:28,528 --> 00:29:31,565
"the Holy Roman Empire rises,
609
00:29:31,607 --> 00:29:34,020
and you and I must die."
610
00:29:34,061 --> 00:29:37,348
Released in 1976,
Richard Donner's film
611
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:41,218
"The Omen" revolves around
every parent's secret fear:
612
00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:45,337
that their sweet young child
is a demon in disguise.
613
00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:50,038
"The Omen" is the story
of an American diplomat,
614
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,119
played by Gregory Peck,
615
00:29:52,161 --> 00:29:54,615
who takes a child home
from the hospital
616
00:29:54,657 --> 00:29:58,651
that is not his own
and sets up shop
617
00:29:58,693 --> 00:30:01,231
and seems to have this
beautiful life in England,
618
00:30:01,273 --> 00:30:03,186
and then the whole thing
starts to unravel,
619
00:30:03,228 --> 00:30:04,560
and we discover that the child
620
00:30:04,601 --> 00:30:07,264
is actually
the son of the devil.
621
00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,178
"The Omen" is like my
hands-down
622
00:30:09,219 --> 00:30:11,924
favorite horror movie.
623
00:30:11,966 --> 00:30:15,086
It's intellectually
a little bit above par
624
00:30:15,128 --> 00:30:16,999
than the average thing
you would watch
625
00:30:17,041 --> 00:30:18,956
at the video store, right?
626
00:30:18,997 --> 00:30:20,994
Right.
It was a big-budget movie.
627
00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,408
Richard Donner.
It was a huge deal.
628
00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:23,925
Yeah, and Gregory Peck
is great in it.
629
00:30:23,949 --> 00:30:25,279
Lee Remick's great in it.
630
00:30:25,321 --> 00:30:27,734
So I just thought it hit
on all... you know,
631
00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:31,230
the quality was really high
on all the different facets.
632
00:30:31,271 --> 00:30:33,143
Gregory Peck
in a horror movie.
633
00:30:33,185 --> 00:30:34,682
That was kind of a big deal,
634
00:30:34,724 --> 00:30:35,972
having an actor
of his stature.
635
00:30:36,014 --> 00:30:37,928
It was a '50s-era,
636
00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:41,423
established
older Hollywood legend
637
00:30:41,465 --> 00:30:43,171
that was now appearing
in this horror film,
638
00:30:43,212 --> 00:30:46,208
and he gave it,
along with Lee Remick,
639
00:30:46,249 --> 00:30:48,829
gave it this patina of class.
640
00:30:48,871 --> 00:30:52,491
Peck was going through
a terrible time in his life.
641
00:30:52,532 --> 00:30:54,279
His son was found dead.
642
00:30:54,321 --> 00:30:56,651
He was so devastated,
643
00:30:56,693 --> 00:30:59,688
and his agent said,
"I got to get him out.
644
00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:01,685
"I got to get him up
on his feet.
645
00:31:01,727 --> 00:31:03,391
I got to get him working."
646
00:31:03,433 --> 00:31:06,720
We pitched him,
"Greg, it's a strong mystery,
647
00:31:06,762 --> 00:31:08,633
the suspense is incredible,
648
00:31:08,675 --> 00:31:10,964
and on top of it,
it's a thriller."
649
00:31:11,006 --> 00:31:13,668
Damien, the adopted boy
in "The Omen,"
650
00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:17,122
does not seem to be aware
that the devil is inside him,
651
00:31:17,164 --> 00:31:18,828
but as he grows older,
652
00:31:18,869 --> 00:31:22,032
Satan's agents
begin infiltrating his life.
653
00:31:22,073 --> 00:31:25,401
They send a sinister
Rottweiler to protect him,
654
00:31:25,443 --> 00:31:27,606
and, in an infamous scene,
655
00:31:27,648 --> 00:31:31,435
they possess his nanny
at his fifth birthday party.
656
00:31:31,476 --> 00:31:34,264
- Look at me, Damien.
- "Damien, this is for you."
657
00:31:34,305 --> 00:31:35,845
- It's all for you.
- Like...
658
00:31:35,886 --> 00:31:38,507
she kills herself
at the kid's party.
659
00:31:43,209 --> 00:31:45,289
In "The Omen,"
we don't really know
660
00:31:45,331 --> 00:31:47,910
that Damien is the antichrist.
661
00:31:47,952 --> 00:31:50,990
Neither does Gregory Peck.
It's not until somewhere
662
00:31:51,031 --> 00:31:53,569
towards the beginning
of the second half
663
00:31:53,611 --> 00:31:56,148
that you really come to terms
with the fact
664
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,228
that they're harboring
the antichrist.
665
00:32:05,135 --> 00:32:07,257
So the movie has
a story to tell,
666
00:32:07,299 --> 00:32:11,876
and then it's gonna be,
"What do they do about it?"
667
00:32:11,918 --> 00:32:15,746
They cast it well. They cast
the son of the devil well.
668
00:32:15,787 --> 00:32:19,157
- Mom!
- Damien... stop!
669
00:32:19,199 --> 00:32:20,714
When you can get, like,
a good performance
670
00:32:20,738 --> 00:32:22,236
out of children
in a horror movie,
671
00:32:22,278 --> 00:32:23,817
there's, like,
nothing more effective.
672
00:32:28,353 --> 00:32:31,015
There's just something
inherently creepy about kids.
673
00:32:31,057 --> 00:32:32,721
Even my own children,
674
00:32:32,763 --> 00:32:34,676
if they wake me up
in the middle of the night,
675
00:32:34,718 --> 00:32:36,275
and they're just standing
motionless next to the bed,
676
00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:40,044
I'm briefly scared,
and I made them.
677
00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:43,205
Casting that child,
we did one scene where I said,
678
00:32:43,247 --> 00:32:46,950
"I'm gonna grab you,
and you want to get away."
679
00:32:46,992 --> 00:32:48,947
Grabbed this kid,
went rolling,
680
00:32:48,989 --> 00:32:50,904
and he kicked me
in my privates...
681
00:32:53,441 --> 00:32:54,731
Oh!
682
00:32:58,101 --> 00:33:01,180
So hard that I just
threw my hands up
683
00:33:01,221 --> 00:33:03,926
and said, "Cut! Hire him."
684
00:33:03,968 --> 00:33:06,922
Aaahh!
685
00:33:09,085 --> 00:33:11,748
After Damien nearly kills
his mother,
686
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,994
Peck's character searches
for the boy's true parents.
687
00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:16,991
His quest triggers
an avalanche
688
00:33:17,032 --> 00:33:19,320
of violence and death.
689
00:33:19,362 --> 00:33:21,068
Aaah!
690
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:23,148
The spectacular staging
of these scenes
691
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:24,855
is one of the reasons
692
00:33:24,896 --> 00:33:27,017
"The Omen" is considered
a horror classic.
693
00:33:29,764 --> 00:33:33,425
I wasn't prepared for
how scary it was gonna get.
694
00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:35,548
Forget about the gore
and everything.
695
00:33:35,589 --> 00:33:37,752
That... didn't see
that coming at all.
696
00:33:37,794 --> 00:33:39,227
- You know, just the...
- The dog, the music.
697
00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:42,246
The Rottweilers
surrounding them
698
00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,702
in the graveyard was, like,
699
00:33:43,744 --> 00:33:44,885
"Oh, my God,
what's gonna happen?"
700
00:33:50,692 --> 00:33:52,689
But then, the decapitations.
701
00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:55,810
I mean, that just...
that was very scary.
702
00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:04,297
I never saw that coming.
703
00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:08,832
At the end of the movie,
we dropped the camera,
704
00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:10,829
and it revealed
the back of the kid,
705
00:34:10,871 --> 00:34:12,951
which I was right
behind the camera.
706
00:34:12,993 --> 00:34:15,364
Kid turned and looked at me,
707
00:34:15,406 --> 00:34:17,445
and he had this severe
face on,
708
00:34:17,487 --> 00:34:21,564
and I said, "Don't you smile.
Don't you dare smile."
709
00:34:21,606 --> 00:34:24,768
And he started to fight
the smile,
710
00:34:24,809 --> 00:34:27,930
and then he couldn't fight it
anymore, and he kind of lit up.
711
00:34:27,972 --> 00:34:31,508
It was like, blow up,
the end of a movie.
712
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:34,504
Was this real?
Am I really the devil?
713
00:34:34,546 --> 00:34:39,954
Did this really happen?
And it changed the whole movie.
714
00:34:39,996 --> 00:34:43,575
I never had children.
They scare the hell out of me.
715
00:34:43,615 --> 00:34:46,570
At their core,
possession movies are about
716
00:34:46,611 --> 00:34:48,525
the fear of losing yourself,
717
00:34:48,567 --> 00:34:51,730
of a demon taking control
of your body and your mind.
718
00:34:51,771 --> 00:34:53,352
I can't move.
719
00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:56,514
In 2017,
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
720
00:34:56,556 --> 00:35:01,631
took that idea and used it to
hold a mirror up to America.
721
00:35:04,627 --> 00:35:06,375
Good to see another
brother around here.
722
00:35:06,417 --> 00:35:08,579
A young black man meets
another young black man.
723
00:35:08,621 --> 00:35:13,198
Ah, yes. Of course it is.
724
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,069
But something
is very wrong here.
725
00:35:16,111 --> 00:35:20,230
Jordan Peele's "Get Out"
is by turns a social satire
726
00:35:20,271 --> 00:35:24,182
and a genuinely horrific tale
of demonic possession,
727
00:35:24,224 --> 00:35:27,220
but the demons here
aren't from hell.
728
00:35:27,261 --> 00:35:29,800
Get out.
729
00:35:29,841 --> 00:35:31,505
Sorry, man.
730
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:32,671
Get out!
731
00:35:33,543 --> 00:35:36,248
I love, love,
love possession films.
732
00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:38,787
- Hello.
- Hi.
733
00:35:38,828 --> 00:35:42,115
My mother used to do
this thing to me,
734
00:35:42,156 --> 00:35:45,652
play this little joke on me.
Every now and then, I would go,
735
00:35:45,693 --> 00:35:47,191
"Mom, Mom,
can I get this candy?"
736
00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:49,064
or whatever,
and she would look at me,
737
00:35:49,104 --> 00:35:53,973
and she'd go, "Mommy's not here
anymore, Jordan,"
738
00:35:54,015 --> 00:35:56,926
and I'd be like, "Don't do it,"
like, "Come on. Mom."
739
00:35:56,968 --> 00:36:00,880
And she'd be like,
"I'm serious. Mom isn't here."
740
00:36:00,921 --> 00:36:04,874
- Who was she?
- Right. That's the question.
741
00:36:04,915 --> 00:36:06,746
That's the question
I've never answered.
742
00:36:06,787 --> 00:36:10,657
All I know is sometimes if
there's too many white people,
743
00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:12,280
I get nervous, you know?
744
00:36:12,322 --> 00:36:13,944
"Get Out"
is a possession film.
745
00:36:13,986 --> 00:36:15,358
It is a possession film.
746
00:36:17,522 --> 00:36:19,270
Instead of the devil
possessing you,
747
00:36:19,312 --> 00:36:21,766
it's literally the white devil
possessing your body.
748
00:36:21,808 --> 00:36:22,805
I'm into it.
749
00:36:22,806 --> 00:36:27,882
Oh, no. No. No.
750
00:36:27,924 --> 00:36:30,421
And there haven't been
a lot of movies
751
00:36:30,462 --> 00:36:34,206
that deal with race
straight on in the genre space.
752
00:36:34,248 --> 00:36:35,705
Do they know I'm black?
753
00:36:38,325 --> 00:36:39,782
No.
754
00:36:39,824 --> 00:36:41,571
And I wanted this movie
to be,
755
00:36:41,612 --> 00:36:43,734
"You can't do this movie
with a white guy."
756
00:36:43,776 --> 00:36:45,690
My dad would have voted
for Obama a third time
757
00:36:45,731 --> 00:36:50,350
if he could have.
Like, the love is so real.
758
00:36:50,392 --> 00:36:53,637
In a nutshell, it's a story
of a black guy
759
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,217
who meets
his white girlfriend's parents
760
00:36:56,259 --> 00:37:01,708
and kind of gets more than what
he's expecting, in a nutshell.
761
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:04,870
I would have voted for Obama
for a third term if I could.
762
00:37:04,912 --> 00:37:08,449
Best president in my lifetime,
hands down.
763
00:37:08,491 --> 00:37:10,238
- I agree.
- Yeah.
764
00:37:10,279 --> 00:37:13,816
There is a genuine mystery
going on
765
00:37:13,858 --> 00:37:17,520
in the case of "Get Out."
The audience knows,
766
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,057
okay, there's something
weird about this family.
767
00:37:20,098 --> 00:37:21,888
There is definitely
something weird
768
00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:24,634
about those black servants.
769
00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:27,546
There's something weird
about this whole damn place.
770
00:37:27,588 --> 00:37:31,624
But exactly what,
you don't know.
771
00:37:35,951 --> 00:37:37,532
But now you're really
watching,
772
00:37:37,574 --> 00:37:39,238
because now you're
watching a mystery.
773
00:37:39,279 --> 00:37:41,775
Jordan Peele knows
exactly what he's doing,
774
00:37:41,817 --> 00:37:44,605
and we're gonna just
have to wait for it.
775
00:37:44,646 --> 00:37:47,310
Do you find that
being African-American
776
00:37:47,351 --> 00:37:51,969
has more advantage
or disadvantage?
777
00:37:52,011 --> 00:37:54,175
Being black in America,
778
00:37:54,216 --> 00:37:57,295
there's certain dials
you're sort of tuned into
779
00:37:57,336 --> 00:38:00,083
to not walk into
a - up situation.
780
00:38:00,125 --> 00:38:02,413
I got hypnotized last night..
781
00:38:02,455 --> 00:38:04,077
Get the out of here.
782
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:06,116
No, yo, yo, yeah, yeah,
to quit smoking,
783
00:38:06,158 --> 00:38:08,654
but Rose's mom's
a psychiatrist, so...
784
00:38:08,696 --> 00:38:09,711
Bro, I don't care
if the bitch
785
00:38:09,735 --> 00:38:11,691
is Iyanla Vanzant, okay?
786
00:38:11,732 --> 00:38:14,271
She can't fix my life.
You ain't getting in my head.
787
00:38:14,312 --> 00:38:16,767
Chris always thinks he's got
the situation in hand...
788
00:38:16,809 --> 00:38:18,515
- Yes.
- Because they're, like,
789
00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:20,155
a bunch of white people.
What are they gonna do?
790
00:38:20,179 --> 00:38:21,844
We're kind of like,
we can forgive him.
791
00:38:21,884 --> 00:38:23,507
Oh, he's not being dumb.
792
00:38:23,549 --> 00:38:26,919
Is he really going to jump
to the conclusion
793
00:38:26,961 --> 00:38:31,122
that this family is literally
evil, physically threats?
794
00:38:31,163 --> 00:38:32,494
Like, that's crazy.
795
00:38:32,536 --> 00:38:37,071
Now... sink into the floor.
796
00:38:37,113 --> 00:38:38,777
- Wait, wait, wait...
- Sink.
797
00:38:43,728 --> 00:38:46,599
The minute Chris is sent
into the sunken place,
798
00:38:46,641 --> 00:38:50,926
I realized that this movie
was not just going to be scary
799
00:38:50,967 --> 00:38:53,006
and not just going
to be interesting
800
00:38:53,048 --> 00:38:55,087
but also going to be
important.
801
00:38:58,415 --> 00:39:00,746
Because he created a metaphor
802
00:39:00,787 --> 00:39:05,031
that now gives so many of us
language to explain
803
00:39:05,073 --> 00:39:10,856
what a state of suppression
looks like and feels like.
804
00:39:10,898 --> 00:39:13,353
Now you're in
the sunken place.
805
00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:14,975
When you're
in the sunken place,
806
00:39:15,017 --> 00:39:16,431
you can still see
what's happening.
807
00:39:16,473 --> 00:39:18,470
You're not unaware.
808
00:39:18,511 --> 00:39:24,337
It's just that you feel there's
nothing you can do about it.
809
00:39:24,378 --> 00:39:26,958
Someone or something
has taken control over you,
810
00:39:26,999 --> 00:39:29,746
so therefore you're powerless,
and it doesn't matter
811
00:39:29,787 --> 00:39:32,741
what color,
where you come from,
812
00:39:32,782 --> 00:39:36,402
you can be in the sunken place
just by not having a voice.
813
00:39:36,444 --> 00:39:39,648
In a pivotal scene
in "Get Out,"
814
00:39:39,689 --> 00:39:41,769
we discover
all the black people
815
00:39:41,811 --> 00:39:45,140
Chris has met on the estate
have been sold at auction.
816
00:39:45,181 --> 00:39:47,636
Their bodies have been
taken over by white people
817
00:39:47,678 --> 00:39:50,549
who desire their youth
and physicality.
818
00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:55,749
They are trapped in the sunken
place, yearning for freedom.
819
00:39:55,791 --> 00:39:57,330
It's really a Trojan horse
820
00:39:57,372 --> 00:40:02,074
for telling
a much more important story.
821
00:40:02,116 --> 00:40:06,235
Where the country is
certainly helped propel
822
00:40:06,276 --> 00:40:08,981
the success of "Get Out,"
and also made "Get Out"
823
00:40:09,022 --> 00:40:12,684
a particularly important movie
for its time
824
00:40:12,725 --> 00:40:16,262
in a way that, you know,
it wouldn't have been,
825
00:40:16,303 --> 00:40:18,800
and, you know, I wish that
that weren't true, but it is.
826
00:40:18,841 --> 00:40:20,464
I mean, at the end
of the day,
827
00:40:20,506 --> 00:40:24,125
the movie is about
how racism is horrifying.
828
00:40:24,167 --> 00:40:28,036
It's the most horrific thing
in our world today,
829
00:40:28,078 --> 00:40:30,990
is just people just hating
830
00:40:31,032 --> 00:40:33,445
other people
for whatever reasons they do.
831
00:40:33,487 --> 00:40:37,106
What is your purpose,
Chris?
832
00:40:37,148 --> 00:40:38,396
What?
833
00:40:40,809 --> 00:40:42,806
- In life.
- Is there a better statement
834
00:40:42,848 --> 00:40:46,551
on race relations in America?
I don't think so, you know?
835
00:40:46,593 --> 00:40:49,713
And that's totally pushed
the bar on satire and horror
836
00:40:49,755 --> 00:40:51,461
and cut very deep,
837
00:40:51,502 --> 00:40:54,373
at the same way
is being entertaining.
838
00:40:54,415 --> 00:40:56,786
And that's what genre movies
do at their best,
839
00:40:56,828 --> 00:40:58,451
especially great horror movies.
840
00:40:58,492 --> 00:41:02,819
It gives you a way
to discuss the undiscussable.
841
00:41:02,861 --> 00:41:04,692
- Yes.
- It gives you a context
842
00:41:04,734 --> 00:41:06,440
to talk about subjects
843
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,437
that are just awful
and painful for everyone...
844
00:41:08,478 --> 00:41:10,101
- Yeah.
- But you can put it
845
00:41:10,143 --> 00:41:12,222
in the context
of a scary movie,
846
00:41:12,264 --> 00:41:15,218
whether it's a zombie movie,
whether it's a "Get Out" movie,
847
00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:17,923
and it's like you're suddenly
allowed to talk about it.
848
00:41:17,964 --> 00:41:20,086
And everybody needs it.
849
00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,993
Even if it's not in the package
of a horror movie,
850
00:41:27,034 --> 00:41:29,656
everybody has this dark side
that needs to be filled.
851
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:37,644
I mean, I told you not to
go in that house.
65742
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