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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,281 --> 00:00:03,945 Is there someone inside you? 2 00:00:03,987 --> 00:00:06,067 I love, love, love possession films. 3 00:00:06,109 --> 00:00:07,399 Sink. 4 00:00:09,687 --> 00:00:11,268 Possession stories 5 00:00:11,309 --> 00:00:13,848 touch on our fear of losing control... 6 00:00:13,889 --> 00:00:16,177 control of our bodies, of our lives, of our mind. 7 00:00:16,219 --> 00:00:18,590 One day, we could be our normal selves, 8 00:00:18,632 --> 00:00:21,212 and the next day be a raging lunatic 9 00:00:21,254 --> 00:00:24,332 spouting arcane languages or obscenities. 10 00:00:24,374 --> 00:00:25,871 The sow is mine. 11 00:00:25,913 --> 00:00:28,535 both: The power of Christ compels you! 12 00:00:28,576 --> 00:00:31,156 "The Exorcist" is held up as being the holy grail, 13 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:33,195 rightfully so, of possession movies. 14 00:00:33,236 --> 00:00:34,776 I'm the devil. 15 00:00:34,818 --> 00:00:37,189 The world was afraid of this movie, 16 00:00:37,231 --> 00:00:39,560 and they were afraid of me. 17 00:00:39,602 --> 00:00:41,141 "The Omen" is like my hands-down 18 00:00:41,183 --> 00:00:42,306 favorite horror movie. 19 00:00:42,348 --> 00:00:44,595 Look at me, Damien. 20 00:00:44,637 --> 00:00:47,132 There's just something inherently creepy about kids. 21 00:00:48,298 --> 00:00:52,417 Your loved one is not who you assumed they were, 22 00:00:52,458 --> 00:00:54,747 and we saw that to wonderful effect 23 00:00:54,789 --> 00:00:57,451 in both of the "Evil Dead" films. 24 00:00:57,493 --> 00:00:59,906 You're bitten by your girlfriend who's possessed. 25 00:00:59,947 --> 00:01:01,695 Your hand's gonna get possessed, 26 00:01:01,737 --> 00:01:03,027 so your hand's gonna attack you. 27 00:01:04,566 --> 00:01:06,230 Looks like something bit you. 28 00:01:06,272 --> 00:01:10,766 "Paranormal Activity" was a game-changer for me. 29 00:01:10,807 --> 00:01:12,388 It was a new way in. 30 00:01:12,430 --> 00:01:13,761 Get out. 31 00:01:13,802 --> 00:01:15,176 "Get Out" is a possession film. 32 00:01:15,217 --> 00:01:16,649 It is a possession film. 33 00:01:16,673 --> 00:01:19,462 A force that's evil. 34 00:01:19,502 --> 00:01:22,249 They have nothing but bad intentions for you. 35 00:01:23,747 --> 00:01:25,785 Oh, my God! 36 00:01:25,827 --> 00:01:27,159 What am I seeing happen? 37 00:01:56,991 --> 00:01:59,529 The fear that demons will enter our bodies 38 00:01:59,571 --> 00:02:01,984 and make us do terrible things 39 00:02:02,025 --> 00:02:04,563 has haunted mankind for millennia. 40 00:02:06,227 --> 00:02:07,933 In recent times, it has inspired some of 41 00:02:07,975 --> 00:02:10,762 the most frightening films ever made... 42 00:02:13,051 --> 00:02:16,004 Fever dreams like "Night of the Demons" 43 00:02:16,046 --> 00:02:17,212 and "Hellraiser"... 44 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:21,871 We'll tear your soul apart. 45 00:02:21,913 --> 00:02:23,952 Fictionalized case histories, 46 00:02:23,993 --> 00:02:27,571 such as "The Exorcism of Emily Rose" 47 00:02:27,613 --> 00:02:29,652 and "The Last Exorcism." 48 00:02:31,607 --> 00:02:34,312 The nightmare of being taken over by a sinister force 49 00:02:34,354 --> 00:02:37,682 can be seen as a metaphor for mental illness, 50 00:02:37,723 --> 00:02:41,884 but what if these films reflect a deeper truth... 51 00:02:41,926 --> 00:02:44,339 a truth about the nature of good and evil? 52 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:47,792 In the name of Jesus Christ, the saints, and all the angels, 53 00:02:47,834 --> 00:02:50,164 I command you to reveal yourself! 54 00:02:55,531 --> 00:02:56,738 Demons are real. 55 00:02:58,610 --> 00:03:01,564 We're so used to seeing the world 56 00:03:01,606 --> 00:03:06,765 in just very few dimensions... time and space, 57 00:03:06,806 --> 00:03:09,470 depth and appearance. 58 00:03:09,511 --> 00:03:14,005 There is so much more at work in our universe 59 00:03:14,046 --> 00:03:17,541 than that which just meets the naked eye. 60 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:21,577 Though our fears are ancient, 61 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:23,533 films about demonic possession 62 00:03:23,574 --> 00:03:26,445 are a relatively recent phenomenon. 63 00:03:26,486 --> 00:03:30,148 Hollywood's self-censoring Motion Picture Production Code 64 00:03:30,189 --> 00:03:32,562 set strict rules on content 65 00:03:32,602 --> 00:03:36,098 from the early 1930s to the late 1960s. 66 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:38,386 There is no room on the screen 67 00:03:38,428 --> 00:03:43,088 at any time for pictures which offend against common decency. 68 00:03:44,128 --> 00:03:47,747 Outside of the Swedish film "Haxan" from 1922, 69 00:03:47,789 --> 00:03:50,993 full-on demonic possessions do not appear on screen 70 00:03:51,034 --> 00:03:54,114 until 1973... 71 00:03:54,155 --> 00:03:57,817 the year of "The Exorcist." 72 00:03:57,858 --> 00:03:59,814 Obviously, "The Exorcist" is held up 73 00:03:59,855 --> 00:04:01,894 as being the holy grail, rightfully so, 74 00:04:01,936 --> 00:04:03,267 of possession movies. 75 00:04:06,554 --> 00:04:09,508 "The Exorcist" is about a priest 76 00:04:09,549 --> 00:04:12,670 that had his own demons 77 00:04:12,711 --> 00:04:14,958 he had been following years prior. 78 00:04:16,830 --> 00:04:22,530 Years later, he finds himself in the same position 79 00:04:22,572 --> 00:04:25,110 with this same demon, 80 00:04:25,152 --> 00:04:29,396 but this time, it's inside of a young girl. 81 00:04:29,438 --> 00:04:31,642 The whole thing was to draw in Father Merrin 82 00:04:31,684 --> 00:04:34,430 to get him to do war... battle one more time. 83 00:04:34,472 --> 00:04:35,928 Captain Howdy? 84 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:38,009 Linda Blair's character, Regan, 85 00:04:38,051 --> 00:04:43,002 becomes another person because this demon is inside of her. 86 00:04:43,043 --> 00:04:45,872 - I'm Damien Karras. - And I'm the devil. 87 00:04:45,913 --> 00:04:48,119 Now kindly undo these straps. 88 00:04:48,161 --> 00:04:51,364 If you're the devil, why not make the straps disappear? 89 00:04:51,406 --> 00:04:55,234 That's much too vulgar a display of power, Karras. 90 00:04:55,276 --> 00:04:58,479 Satan plays the role of Satan. 91 00:04:58,521 --> 00:04:59,935 I don't know if that's Satan 92 00:04:59,977 --> 00:05:02,432 or a bunch of demons. Doesn't matter. 93 00:05:02,473 --> 00:05:06,093 - Where's Regan? - In here with us. 94 00:05:06,925 --> 00:05:11,044 The actor is really the one selling the idea of possession. 95 00:05:13,292 --> 00:05:14,747 So you've got to have a great actor 96 00:05:14,789 --> 00:05:17,077 to play somebody who's possessed. 97 00:05:17,119 --> 00:05:18,783 - Ahh! - Oh! 98 00:05:18,825 --> 00:05:21,321 Keep away! The sow is mine! 99 00:05:21,363 --> 00:05:24,400 Billy Friedkin, the director, really wanted to make sure 100 00:05:24,441 --> 00:05:30,766 that Regan was just any generic all-American little girl. 101 00:05:30,808 --> 00:05:33,928 Her transformation from this very sweet, 102 00:05:33,970 --> 00:05:36,966 very typical young girl... 103 00:05:37,007 --> 00:05:39,254 Oh, Mom, can't we get a horse? 104 00:05:39,295 --> 00:05:43,289 Into a monster I think comments on this anxiety 105 00:05:43,331 --> 00:05:47,159 that the young people of the country were moving away 106 00:05:47,201 --> 00:05:49,863 from the conservative norms of society. 107 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:56,770 It was 1973, 108 00:05:56,811 --> 00:05:58,934 so we were recently out of Vietnam, 109 00:05:58,975 --> 00:06:02,221 and the hippie movement was still in full swing. 110 00:06:02,262 --> 00:06:04,468 There was definitely upheaval going on, 111 00:06:04,508 --> 00:06:09,127 social upheaval going on, and generational conflict. 112 00:06:11,624 --> 00:06:15,202 You have a mother who's trying to deal with a daughter 113 00:06:15,243 --> 00:06:18,946 who has suddenly become something else, 114 00:06:18,988 --> 00:06:22,858 and this is what a lot of parents felt like. 115 00:06:26,935 --> 00:06:28,600 The horror stuff doesn't really come in 116 00:06:28,641 --> 00:06:30,305 until, like, the second half, 117 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:34,840 but the first half is all sort of upsetting images 118 00:06:34,882 --> 00:06:39,251 and strange depictions of medical procedures. 119 00:06:42,122 --> 00:06:43,886 It isn't just that medical science is inadequate; 120 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:45,575 it's that medical science 121 00:06:45,616 --> 00:06:47,738 is even kind of destructive toward the child. 122 00:06:47,780 --> 00:06:50,068 Religion is really the only answer. 123 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:51,816 You ever heard of exorcism? 124 00:06:53,855 --> 00:06:56,393 By the time the horror stuff happens, 125 00:06:56,434 --> 00:06:59,721 the audience is pretty much desensitized. 126 00:06:59,763 --> 00:07:02,842 They're already pummeled by the movie that they've seen, 127 00:07:02,883 --> 00:07:06,336 and it was extremely manipulative, 128 00:07:06,378 --> 00:07:07,960 and not a very nice movie 129 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,412 in the sense of being good to the audience. 130 00:07:15,032 --> 00:07:17,654 Every time they track down the hallway to the door, 131 00:07:17,695 --> 00:07:20,483 the audience did not... they wanted to but didn't... 132 00:07:20,525 --> 00:07:24,019 "Yes, no, yes, no"... to go into that door. 133 00:07:24,061 --> 00:07:25,934 It's a hard movie to watch. 134 00:07:28,055 --> 00:07:30,635 What happens to Linda Blair is just... it's terrible. 135 00:07:30,676 --> 00:07:33,547 The scene where I'm sitting up and down really fast. 136 00:07:33,589 --> 00:07:36,086 Please, Mother, make it stop! 137 00:07:36,127 --> 00:07:38,041 It's basically, like, a metal brace, 138 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:40,579 and then I'm tied in on each side. 139 00:07:40,621 --> 00:07:43,034 Unfortunately, they didn't tie it in really good. 140 00:07:43,076 --> 00:07:47,693 It fractured my lower spine, so that's what's on camera, 141 00:07:47,735 --> 00:07:50,356 and the screaming and yelling is real. 142 00:07:50,398 --> 00:07:53,810 Make it stop! It's killing me! 143 00:07:53,851 --> 00:07:55,640 My mother had gotten a call saying, 144 00:07:55,682 --> 00:07:59,427 "Can Jamie audition for 'The Exorcist'?" 145 00:07:59,469 --> 00:08:04,586 And my mother said, "Uh, no. I don't think so." 146 00:08:04,627 --> 00:08:06,459 And then it came out, and we screened it 147 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,123 for my 15th birthday. 148 00:08:08,164 --> 00:08:10,578 "The Exorcist." 149 00:08:10,619 --> 00:08:13,157 Your mother's in here with us, Karras. 150 00:08:13,198 --> 00:08:15,154 Would you like to leave a message? 151 00:08:15,195 --> 00:08:17,650 It freaked me so badly 152 00:08:17,692 --> 00:08:21,062 that for the rest of my high school life, 153 00:08:21,104 --> 00:08:26,055 my friends made fun of me, and they would taunt me. 154 00:08:26,097 --> 00:08:30,632 "Dami. Dami. Dami, why you do this to me, Dami?" 155 00:08:30,674 --> 00:08:33,545 Dami. Why you do this to me? 156 00:08:33,585 --> 00:08:36,748 "Dami, why you do this to me, Dami?" 157 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:38,829 You're not my mother! 158 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:40,784 That movie scared me so much that I'm Jewish, 159 00:08:40,826 --> 00:08:42,614 and it made me believe in the devil. 160 00:08:42,656 --> 00:08:44,629 I would sleep with a rosary next to my bed every night. 161 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:48,564 I have full-blown "Exorcist" PTSD, so... 162 00:08:48,606 --> 00:08:51,144 What an excellent day for an exorcism. 163 00:08:51,185 --> 00:08:55,429 The whole thing about "The Exorcist" was, like, 164 00:08:55,471 --> 00:08:58,675 it may be too intense for human beings. 165 00:08:58,716 --> 00:09:02,461 That it wasn't just a horror film in '73 166 00:09:02,503 --> 00:09:06,164 when it came out; it was... 167 00:09:06,206 --> 00:09:07,578 You were experiencing the devil. 168 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:09,242 Yeah, and that people, like, 169 00:09:09,284 --> 00:09:12,113 committed suicide after they saw "The Exorcist," 170 00:09:12,155 --> 00:09:14,902 or people were put in insane asylums 171 00:09:14,943 --> 00:09:17,231 after they saw "The Exorcist," 172 00:09:17,273 --> 00:09:22,224 and every new issue of the "National Enquirer" had, 173 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:26,260 you know, "My son went crazy and is in a straitjacket. 174 00:09:26,302 --> 00:09:29,505 How watching 'The Exorcist' ruined my life." 175 00:09:29,547 --> 00:09:31,128 I dream of reviews like that. 176 00:09:32,626 --> 00:09:34,831 People went back to the church in droves 177 00:09:34,873 --> 00:09:37,119 after that film came out. 178 00:09:37,161 --> 00:09:43,235 The world was afraid of this movie... 179 00:09:43,277 --> 00:09:44,983 and they were afraid of me, 180 00:09:45,025 --> 00:09:47,396 and they wanted to have answers about good and evil 181 00:09:47,438 --> 00:09:49,019 and was the devil really coming? 182 00:09:56,841 --> 00:09:58,672 There's no place to hide... your religion, 183 00:09:58,714 --> 00:10:00,460 your relationship to God. 184 00:10:00,502 --> 00:10:03,165 No, none of that. There's no safe haven anywhere. 185 00:10:03,207 --> 00:10:05,662 Even the afterlife isn't safe. I mean, you're gonna get there 186 00:10:05,703 --> 00:10:07,741 and be in hell like poor Father Damien. 187 00:10:07,783 --> 00:10:11,028 I mean, it's this idea that there's literally no escape, 188 00:10:11,070 --> 00:10:12,693 not even if you're dead. 189 00:10:12,734 --> 00:10:16,021 That is, you know, to me the idea of pure horror. 190 00:10:16,063 --> 00:10:17,727 No! 191 00:10:21,763 --> 00:10:23,927 I think it's the greatest horror film ever made, 192 00:10:23,969 --> 00:10:26,108 and that's the horror film that I think that will never 193 00:10:26,132 --> 00:10:29,960 be duplicated, all right? I don't see... 194 00:10:30,001 --> 00:10:31,717 I agree. I don't think it'll ever be beat. 195 00:10:33,372 --> 00:10:35,244 "The Exorcist" drew on all the resources 196 00:10:35,285 --> 00:10:37,116 of Hollywood in the 1970s, 197 00:10:37,158 --> 00:10:39,695 one of the peak periods of American film. 198 00:10:39,737 --> 00:10:41,818 Decades later, 199 00:10:41,859 --> 00:10:44,855 a first-time director shooting in his house 200 00:10:44,897 --> 00:10:47,810 proved you don't need a big budget or special effects 201 00:10:47,851 --> 00:10:51,969 to bring a demonic possession to terrifying life. 202 00:10:52,011 --> 00:10:53,551 I can feel it watching me. 203 00:10:58,377 --> 00:11:00,416 In 2007, software engineer Oren Peli 204 00:11:00,458 --> 00:11:02,205 decided to make a low-budget movie 205 00:11:02,246 --> 00:11:04,410 about a demonic possession. 206 00:11:04,452 --> 00:11:07,156 The result was "Paranormal Activity," 207 00:11:07,198 --> 00:11:10,235 the most profitable film of all time, 208 00:11:10,277 --> 00:11:14,936 and one of the most unnerving movies ever made. 209 00:11:14,978 --> 00:11:17,058 Oren made the movie for $15,000. 210 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:18,639 He shot it at his house. 211 00:11:18,681 --> 00:11:20,845 He had a crew of about three people. 212 00:11:20,887 --> 00:11:24,299 And the crew consisted of my girlfriend at the time, 213 00:11:24,339 --> 00:11:27,128 and then my best friend, Amir, I told him, 214 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:28,560 "I'm gonna shoot a movie. Do you want to help me?" 215 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:30,497 And he said, "Sure. It sounds fun, 216 00:11:30,539 --> 00:11:32,346 but I don't know anything about making movies." 217 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:33,951 I said, "Perfect. Neither do I." 218 00:11:33,993 --> 00:11:35,532 All right, we're operational, babe. 219 00:11:35,574 --> 00:11:37,155 Ooh. 220 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:39,568 Shot entirely in the found footage style, 221 00:11:39,609 --> 00:11:42,273 the story follows Micah and Katie, 222 00:11:42,314 --> 00:11:45,102 a young suburban couple who move into a new house 223 00:11:45,144 --> 00:11:47,015 that seems to be haunted. 224 00:11:47,057 --> 00:11:50,302 In fact, Katie is being tormented by a demon 225 00:11:50,344 --> 00:11:53,006 that feeds off of negative energy. 226 00:11:53,048 --> 00:11:55,712 both: 227 00:11:55,753 --> 00:11:57,001 out there. 228 00:11:57,043 --> 00:11:58,748 Aah! 229 00:11:58,790 --> 00:12:02,119 There is a difference between a ghost and a demon. 230 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,780 Ghosts are simply the spirits of people who died. 231 00:12:05,822 --> 00:12:07,569 They don't want to move on, 232 00:12:07,611 --> 00:12:10,648 and they kind of linger around in their own dimension. 233 00:12:10,690 --> 00:12:13,602 But demons are inherently evil, 234 00:12:13,644 --> 00:12:15,849 want to possess people... 235 00:12:15,891 --> 00:12:18,096 Feel it? 236 00:12:18,137 --> 00:12:19,760 I feel it breathing on me. 237 00:12:19,802 --> 00:12:22,506 But a demon is attached to a person. 238 00:12:22,547 --> 00:12:24,544 Leaving the house doesn't really solve anything. 239 00:12:24,586 --> 00:12:26,601 They're still gonna follow you wherever you're gonna go. 240 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:29,496 It's not the house. It's me. 241 00:12:29,537 --> 00:12:31,576 You know, wherever I go, it goes. 242 00:12:31,618 --> 00:12:33,199 Micah sets up cameras 243 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,654 to record the supernatural events, 244 00:12:35,695 --> 00:12:37,485 which makes things worse. 245 00:12:37,526 --> 00:12:40,730 It felt very much like what would happen to anyone 246 00:12:40,772 --> 00:12:42,227 if they were going through that. 247 00:12:42,269 --> 00:12:43,808 What is your quest? 248 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:45,681 The sounds, wanting to record it, 249 00:12:45,723 --> 00:12:47,678 playing with the Ouija board. 250 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,384 Got something to say? 251 00:12:49,426 --> 00:12:50,525 - That moment... - When he was talking to 252 00:12:50,549 --> 00:12:52,088 - a Ouija board. - Yeah. 253 00:12:52,130 --> 00:12:53,147 - You're like... - Oh, I was like, 254 00:12:53,171 --> 00:12:54,627 "Run, mother. Run!" 255 00:12:55,875 --> 00:12:58,163 As the couple grows more desperate, 256 00:12:58,204 --> 00:13:00,201 the demon trying to possess Katie 257 00:13:00,243 --> 00:13:02,490 grows stronger and stronger. 258 00:13:02,532 --> 00:13:04,404 Just let's go. Please, let's go. 259 00:13:04,446 --> 00:13:07,982 "Paranormal Activity" was a game-changer for me, 260 00:13:08,024 --> 00:13:12,268 because it just showed, with a minimalist approach, 261 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:16,013 you can scare the out of people with mostly pacing... 262 00:13:16,054 --> 00:13:17,051 - Mm-hmm. - And the way 263 00:13:17,052 --> 00:13:18,551 you tell the story. 264 00:13:18,592 --> 00:13:20,214 I mean, like, what happens in that movie? 265 00:13:20,256 --> 00:13:22,336 A couple sheets come off, you know, the bed, 266 00:13:22,378 --> 00:13:24,833 the girl gets pulled through the door, 267 00:13:24,874 --> 00:13:29,119 and yet, when they come up on, like, day 28 or whatnot, 268 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,157 and you know some about to go down, 269 00:13:31,199 --> 00:13:33,113 I remember the entire audience 270 00:13:33,154 --> 00:13:35,277 going, "Ohhh." 271 00:13:35,318 --> 00:13:37,190 Aaaaaahhhhh! 272 00:13:37,232 --> 00:13:39,312 Oh... 273 00:13:39,354 --> 00:13:40,911 There's something about the vulnerability 274 00:13:40,935 --> 00:13:42,932 that you have while you're asleep, 275 00:13:42,974 --> 00:13:45,678 and which I think is something very kind of 276 00:13:45,719 --> 00:13:49,297 engrained in human nature from the days we were cavemen, 277 00:13:49,339 --> 00:13:51,188 and you don't know if a tiger is gonna come into your cave 278 00:13:51,212 --> 00:13:53,832 and kill you while you're asleep. 279 00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:57,161 And the fact that that movie shattered that space and said, 280 00:13:57,203 --> 00:13:58,867 "Well, when you go home tonight, 281 00:13:58,909 --> 00:14:01,073 "you're gonna be thinking about what this couple 282 00:14:01,114 --> 00:14:03,735 endured in that bedroom," it's incredibly effective. 283 00:14:06,814 --> 00:14:09,685 "Paranormal Activity's" goal was simple: 284 00:14:09,727 --> 00:14:11,641 to scare the audience. 285 00:14:14,054 --> 00:14:15,635 Jen? 286 00:14:15,676 --> 00:14:17,466 The horror/comedy "Jennifer's Body" 287 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,960 had a serious and uniquely feminist agenda, 288 00:14:21,002 --> 00:14:22,874 using demonic possession 289 00:14:22,916 --> 00:14:25,621 to comment on the hell of being a teenage girl 290 00:14:25,662 --> 00:14:27,659 in a culture obsessed with appearance. 291 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:29,947 Hi, Jennifer. You look really pretty. 292 00:14:29,989 --> 00:14:32,569 What up, Craig? 293 00:14:32,611 --> 00:14:37,104 Jennifer is a alpha female bitch 294 00:14:37,146 --> 00:14:39,434 who is beautiful and popular, 295 00:14:39,476 --> 00:14:44,052 and Needy is her worshipful nerdy friend. 296 00:14:44,094 --> 00:14:46,340 Jennifer is actually a really intelligent, 297 00:14:46,382 --> 00:14:50,252 clever, interesting person, but nobody cares about that. 298 00:14:50,294 --> 00:14:53,539 Jennifer is cursed before she is cursed, 299 00:14:53,580 --> 00:14:57,033 because all people can do is look at her, 300 00:14:57,075 --> 00:14:59,447 as opposed to engage with her. 301 00:14:59,488 --> 00:15:03,066 It's an incredibly dehumanized place to be living in. 302 00:15:03,108 --> 00:15:04,606 She does have this incredible power 303 00:15:04,647 --> 00:15:06,437 that comes with her beauty. She uses it. 304 00:15:06,478 --> 00:15:09,932 These are like smart bombs, okay? 305 00:15:09,973 --> 00:15:11,322 You point them in the right direction, 306 00:15:11,346 --> 00:15:13,801 and gets real. 307 00:15:13,843 --> 00:15:16,256 But it's not nearly as satisfying to her 308 00:15:16,297 --> 00:15:20,291 as when she actually gets these supernatural powers. 309 00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:25,700 Jennifer is the victim of a demonic ritual gone wrong. 310 00:15:25,742 --> 00:15:28,239 This rock band, in an attempt to become famous... 311 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,546 Do you know how hard it is to make it 312 00:15:29,570 --> 00:15:31,401 as an indie band these days? 313 00:15:31,442 --> 00:15:34,480 Attempt to murder her because they think she is a virgin 314 00:15:34,521 --> 00:15:36,601 and that they are sacrificing a virgin. 315 00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:42,094 But she is not a virgin, 316 00:15:42,135 --> 00:15:44,923 and as a result, the spell goes haywire, 317 00:15:44,964 --> 00:15:48,126 and Jennifer is possessed by a demon 318 00:15:48,168 --> 00:15:51,122 and starts eating boys to satisfy the demon, 319 00:15:51,164 --> 00:15:52,745 and Needy has to stop her. 320 00:15:54,867 --> 00:15:57,072 I am rooting for Jennifer when I watch the movie. 321 00:15:58,362 --> 00:16:01,441 This idea of just being, like, hot and invincible... 322 00:16:01,483 --> 00:16:04,020 I feel so scrumptious. 323 00:16:04,062 --> 00:16:06,974 Was about how teenage girls are objectified, 324 00:16:07,016 --> 00:16:11,052 it was about female sexual appetites. 325 00:16:11,093 --> 00:16:12,924 It was about the idea 326 00:16:12,966 --> 00:16:14,547 of puberty being a transformative thing 327 00:16:14,589 --> 00:16:16,669 and using a sort of a monstrous transformation 328 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:18,125 as a way of talking about that. 329 00:16:20,496 --> 00:16:22,369 Are you scared? 330 00:16:22,411 --> 00:16:24,699 The notion of the female as monstrous 331 00:16:24,741 --> 00:16:28,319 in itself has been a central tenet of horror, 332 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,858 and that's what remains 333 00:16:29,899 --> 00:16:32,687 profoundly meaningful to me about horror 334 00:16:32,729 --> 00:16:36,848 is it's one of the few genres that's had the guts to say, 335 00:16:36,889 --> 00:16:40,925 as a culture, we are terrified of women and girls. 336 00:16:40,967 --> 00:16:42,008 Hi. 337 00:16:46,418 --> 00:16:48,082 But it was so freeing for me 338 00:16:48,124 --> 00:16:50,662 to be able to explore those themes in a completely 339 00:16:50,703 --> 00:16:53,283 just heightened gory bananas atmosphere. 340 00:16:53,324 --> 00:16:55,422 You know, they have this fight at the end of the movie, 341 00:16:55,446 --> 00:16:58,692 and Needy stabs Jennifer in the heart, 342 00:16:58,733 --> 00:17:00,314 and it's like my way of saying, like, 343 00:17:00,356 --> 00:17:02,602 "You're all staring at this girl's breasts..." 344 00:17:02,644 --> 00:17:05,723 - My tit. - No. Your heart. 345 00:17:05,765 --> 00:17:07,804 But what this is really about is her feelings. 346 00:17:07,845 --> 00:17:11,507 You don't get to do over-the-top stuff like that 347 00:17:11,548 --> 00:17:13,046 in a more understated genre. 348 00:17:13,088 --> 00:17:14,669 You can only do that in a horror movie. 349 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:17,581 You know what? You were never a good friend. 350 00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:20,743 "Jennifer's Body" got a mixed reception 351 00:17:20,785 --> 00:17:22,449 on its release, 352 00:17:22,491 --> 00:17:24,820 but the director's cut is now a cult favorite. 353 00:17:24,862 --> 00:17:26,360 You got a tampon? 354 00:17:26,401 --> 00:17:28,814 Stylistically, it owes a debt 355 00:17:28,856 --> 00:17:32,310 to one of the most influential cult movies of all time: 356 00:17:34,765 --> 00:17:36,346 "The Evil Dead." 357 00:17:41,422 --> 00:17:43,377 When it comes to demonic possession movies, 358 00:17:43,419 --> 00:17:46,664 few can match the manic energy and no-holds-barred horror 359 00:17:46,706 --> 00:17:49,826 of Sam Raimi's film, "The Evil Dead." 360 00:17:49,868 --> 00:17:52,614 Hey, Scotty, what's this place like, anyway? 361 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:54,236 Well, the guy that's renting it says 362 00:17:54,278 --> 00:17:56,317 it's an old place... a little run down, 363 00:17:56,358 --> 00:17:58,439 but it's right up in the mountains. 364 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,352 "The Evil Dead" is about a group 365 00:18:00,394 --> 00:18:04,555 of fairly dumb college kids who go out to a remote cabin 366 00:18:04,597 --> 00:18:07,758 in the woods to have a fun little break. 367 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,548 They see the cabin. They should be running 368 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:11,272 in the opposite direction to the nearest Motel 6, 369 00:18:11,296 --> 00:18:14,208 but instead, they go in. They promptly find 370 00:18:14,249 --> 00:18:16,912 a reel-to-reel recorder in the basement, 371 00:18:16,954 --> 00:18:18,451 which of course they play. 372 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,405 It contains demonic incantations 373 00:18:22,445 --> 00:18:24,609 that wake up the dead. 374 00:18:24,651 --> 00:18:26,648 Shut it off! 375 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:28,437 Oh, my God! 376 00:18:28,479 --> 00:18:31,974 Dead rise and proceed to possess these kids 377 00:18:32,015 --> 00:18:35,261 one by one, and carnage and mayhem ensues. 378 00:18:36,592 --> 00:18:37,966 Oh! 379 00:18:38,006 --> 00:18:40,212 It seems like the simplest setup, 380 00:18:40,254 --> 00:18:42,750 but man, oh, man, it was relentless. 381 00:18:42,792 --> 00:18:44,580 And you're just, like, blown away. 382 00:18:44,622 --> 00:18:47,909 Why have you disturbed our sleep, 383 00:18:47,951 --> 00:18:52,195 awakened us from our ancient slumber? 384 00:18:52,237 --> 00:18:53,859 You will die! 385 00:18:53,901 --> 00:18:57,479 What is fascinating about the possession genre 386 00:18:57,521 --> 00:19:01,389 of horror films is your loved one 387 00:19:01,431 --> 00:19:04,178 is not who you assumed they were. 388 00:19:08,005 --> 00:19:10,543 That's the most terrifying thing, 389 00:19:10,585 --> 00:19:12,873 and we saw that to wonderful effect 390 00:19:12,915 --> 00:19:14,454 in both of the "Evil Dead" films. 391 00:19:20,862 --> 00:19:23,982 And it was this grainy, 16-millimeter movie 392 00:19:24,024 --> 00:19:27,062 that you could tell was, like, made by amateurs 393 00:19:27,103 --> 00:19:29,059 with that kind of, like, single-spotlight lighting 394 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:30,473 and everything else. 395 00:19:33,178 --> 00:19:35,882 But at the same time was really scary, 396 00:19:35,923 --> 00:19:38,046 and... I mean, Sam was trying to make a scary movie. 397 00:19:40,043 --> 00:19:44,245 The first person had to get injured by one of these demons, 398 00:19:44,287 --> 00:19:47,282 so we did it the first character's kneeling down, 399 00:19:47,323 --> 00:19:50,777 and the demon gets a pencil and stabs it in the ankle. 400 00:19:54,272 --> 00:19:56,643 That one got a big reaction out of the audience, 401 00:19:56,685 --> 00:19:58,391 'cause I don't think they knew 402 00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:01,553 how visceral the movie was gonna be until it started. 403 00:20:01,594 --> 00:20:04,341 I fear that the only way to stop those possessed 404 00:20:04,382 --> 00:20:05,964 by the spirits of the book 405 00:20:06,006 --> 00:20:08,710 is through the act of bodily dismemberment. 406 00:20:08,751 --> 00:20:11,039 So whenever you hear that you can only stop something 407 00:20:11,081 --> 00:20:12,721 through bodily dismemberment, you know you're gonna be in 408 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:15,283 for a good show of gore and horror, right? 409 00:20:21,774 --> 00:20:23,438 Ohh! Ohh! 410 00:20:25,352 --> 00:20:29,222 There is always the standard aspect of the scream queen... 411 00:20:33,008 --> 00:20:34,797 Sam wanted to up it. 412 00:20:34,838 --> 00:20:38,667 He thought it was one thing to have a woman scream, 413 00:20:38,708 --> 00:20:41,703 but what if you made a man scream like a girl? 414 00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:48,902 Like, "I want it to be that horrifying." 415 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,724 There was also something else about "Evil Dead" 416 00:20:56,766 --> 00:20:59,054 that made it particularly cool was, 417 00:20:59,095 --> 00:21:00,551 well, you had to get it. 418 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,590 Not everyone could get it. 419 00:21:05,502 --> 00:21:07,458 It was cheap, 420 00:21:07,499 --> 00:21:10,745 so you had to be able to not just look beyond that; 421 00:21:10,786 --> 00:21:13,034 you had to embrace it. 422 00:21:16,321 --> 00:21:18,650 It is scary, but there is a really weird 423 00:21:18,692 --> 00:21:22,603 sense of humor that, if you're not in line with it, 424 00:21:22,644 --> 00:21:25,057 you're gonna think, "Oh, that's just a piece of junk." 425 00:21:27,928 --> 00:21:30,508 In 1981, "The Evil Dead" 426 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:33,046 launched the career of its gifted director, 427 00:21:33,088 --> 00:21:35,418 21-year-old Sam Raimi. 428 00:21:36,833 --> 00:21:40,660 Six years later, Raimi returned with "Evil Dead 2," 429 00:21:40,702 --> 00:21:44,613 a wildly creative remake of the first film. 430 00:21:44,655 --> 00:21:46,360 With "Evil Dead 2" in particular, 431 00:21:46,402 --> 00:21:48,024 I think Sam Raimi just said, 432 00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:50,146 "You know what? Let's just go for it." 433 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:53,392 Let's just embrace the fun. 434 00:21:54,349 --> 00:21:56,263 You're bitten by your girlfriend, 435 00:21:56,304 --> 00:21:58,260 who's possessed, your hand's gonna get possessed, 436 00:21:58,301 --> 00:22:00,007 so your hand's gonna attack you. 437 00:22:04,417 --> 00:22:05,999 It was just a long, grueling sequence. 438 00:22:11,533 --> 00:22:13,113 It's like, get the Three Stooges, 439 00:22:13,155 --> 00:22:14,487 but give them a chainsaw... 440 00:22:16,775 --> 00:22:18,730 And see what would happen. 441 00:22:27,177 --> 00:22:28,925 Groovy. 442 00:22:28,965 --> 00:22:33,084 If you're a movie-mad young guy in your early 20s 443 00:22:33,126 --> 00:22:35,748 and you see "Evil Dead 2," 444 00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:37,870 and you see that shooting style, 445 00:22:37,912 --> 00:22:40,074 it's like, "Well, what's the point 446 00:22:40,116 --> 00:22:42,654 of ever shooting any movie not like that?" 447 00:22:42,696 --> 00:22:44,568 - I know. - All right? That seemed like, 448 00:22:44,610 --> 00:22:46,899 "Okay, a new shooting style has been developed, 449 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:49,478 and everything else looks old-fashioned by comparison." 450 00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,181 Every single thing just seems 451 00:22:53,222 --> 00:22:54,928 old-fashioned and dated 452 00:22:54,970 --> 00:22:56,384 unless you're doing that. 453 00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:03,499 "The Evil Dead" pitted a regular guy 454 00:23:03,541 --> 00:23:05,663 against a horde of demons, 455 00:23:05,705 --> 00:23:07,493 but what chance do you have 456 00:23:07,535 --> 00:23:10,406 when you're up against Satan himself? 457 00:23:15,399 --> 00:23:16,980 Christianity teaches 458 00:23:17,021 --> 00:23:18,413 that Jesus Christ was the son of God, 459 00:23:18,437 --> 00:23:19,976 born of mortal woman. 460 00:23:20,017 --> 00:23:22,222 What if Satan decided that he too 461 00:23:22,264 --> 00:23:24,053 would father a child? 462 00:23:24,095 --> 00:23:28,214 In 1968, Roman Polanski's film "Rosemary's Baby" 463 00:23:28,256 --> 00:23:31,792 explored the links between pregnancy, parenthood, 464 00:23:31,834 --> 00:23:34,372 and demonic possession. 465 00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:36,244 You're pregnant. 466 00:23:36,285 --> 00:23:38,740 "Rosemary's Baby" is a really interesting film, 467 00:23:38,782 --> 00:23:40,904 because, artistically, it's one of the best films 468 00:23:40,946 --> 00:23:43,275 to come out in that era and probably ever. 469 00:23:43,317 --> 00:23:47,311 - I'm Rosemary Woodhouse. - Uh, we're in 7E. 470 00:23:47,353 --> 00:23:50,140 That movie made $30 million 471 00:23:50,182 --> 00:23:53,636 back when movies didn't make $30 million, 472 00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:55,965 not in their first run. 473 00:23:56,007 --> 00:24:00,833 I mean, if a movie made $12 million, "Oh, wow." 474 00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:02,914 - That's a huge hit. - That's a smash. 475 00:24:02,955 --> 00:24:04,994 - It's a phenomenon. - It was a phenomenon. 476 00:24:05,036 --> 00:24:06,742 And the devil had never been dealt with 477 00:24:06,784 --> 00:24:09,904 in that realistic a form before. 478 00:24:09,945 --> 00:24:11,817 It's a hugely important film, 479 00:24:11,859 --> 00:24:13,358 because it's portraying a woman 480 00:24:13,398 --> 00:24:16,227 at the height of second-wave feminism. 481 00:24:16,269 --> 00:24:18,849 It also coincides with a rise in interest 482 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,637 in all kinds of alternative religions and occultism 483 00:24:21,678 --> 00:24:23,301 that was happening in the '60s. 484 00:24:23,343 --> 00:24:25,672 It was a period where there was, you know, 485 00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:28,169 questioning, you know, God, the existence of God. 486 00:24:28,210 --> 00:24:29,791 I think it was even on "Time" magazine, 487 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:31,332 you know, "Is God Dead?" 488 00:24:31,373 --> 00:24:33,745 No, you're not religious, my dear, are you? 489 00:24:33,786 --> 00:24:37,156 I was brought up a Catholic. Now I don't know. 490 00:24:37,197 --> 00:24:38,820 In "Rosemary's Baby," 491 00:24:38,862 --> 00:24:41,483 the heroine is drugged by Satanists. 492 00:24:41,525 --> 00:24:44,438 Then the devil literally enters her through rape. 493 00:24:44,479 --> 00:24:46,934 - She's awake. She sees. - Can't see or hear. 494 00:24:46,975 --> 00:24:48,848 She's like dead. Now sing. 495 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,882 Rosemary becomes pregnant with Satan's child. 496 00:24:53,923 --> 00:24:57,502 This is no dream. This is really happening! 497 00:24:57,544 --> 00:25:00,581 "Rosemary's Baby" was a possession movie. 498 00:25:00,622 --> 00:25:03,951 It was about someone carrying the seed of Satan within her 499 00:25:03,993 --> 00:25:06,115 and giving birth to Satan's child. 500 00:25:06,156 --> 00:25:11,315 This is actually how Satan or his minions 501 00:25:11,357 --> 00:25:13,479 can infest each of us 502 00:25:13,521 --> 00:25:16,058 and draw out the evil within us. 503 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,347 It, to me, remains a metaphor 504 00:25:18,389 --> 00:25:20,552 about domestic violence, 505 00:25:20,593 --> 00:25:23,880 about emotional violence in relationships 506 00:25:23,922 --> 00:25:25,461 between men and women, 507 00:25:25,503 --> 00:25:27,958 largely inflicted by men onto women. 508 00:25:27,999 --> 00:25:29,349 I didn't want to miss baby night. 509 00:25:29,373 --> 00:25:30,870 You... while I was out? 510 00:25:30,912 --> 00:25:32,576 And a couple of my nails were ragged, 511 00:25:32,618 --> 00:25:36,612 and it was kind of fun in a necrophile sort of way. 512 00:25:38,567 --> 00:25:40,458 When I saw "Rosemary's Baby" when I was very young, 513 00:25:40,482 --> 00:25:42,787 I don't think I thought, "Oh, this is female consciousness," 514 00:25:42,811 --> 00:25:45,599 but obviously, there aren't that many movies 515 00:25:45,641 --> 00:25:48,802 from within a young woman's point of view. 516 00:25:48,844 --> 00:25:51,466 We know Polanski's guilty of all these things 517 00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:54,170 in his personal life, but as a filmmaker, 518 00:25:54,212 --> 00:25:57,208 he's incredibly sympathetic to the female point of view. 519 00:25:57,249 --> 00:25:59,121 And the relationship between Rosemary 520 00:25:59,163 --> 00:26:01,410 and her husband is fantastic. 521 00:26:01,411 --> 00:26:03,948 John Cassavetes' amazing performance 522 00:26:03,989 --> 00:26:05,612 as the desperate actor 523 00:26:05,653 --> 00:26:07,901 who will do anything to get that big break. 524 00:26:07,942 --> 00:26:09,939 Let's have a baby, all right? 525 00:26:09,981 --> 00:26:11,769 Rosemary's very much the lovely, 526 00:26:11,811 --> 00:26:14,058 submissive wife who is there to help her husband out, 527 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,930 and what that gets her 528 00:26:15,972 --> 00:26:18,469 is getting impregnated by the devil. 529 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:20,549 Her husband basically sells her to Satan 530 00:26:20,591 --> 00:26:22,504 in exchange for a Broadway hit. 531 00:26:22,546 --> 00:26:25,084 Oh, I got the part. 532 00:26:25,126 --> 00:26:28,038 It was a hell of a way to get it. 533 00:26:29,703 --> 00:26:31,301 One of the things I really love about horror 534 00:26:31,325 --> 00:26:33,572 and the nightmares that it touches on 535 00:26:33,613 --> 00:26:37,191 are the idea of security and a stable, normal place 536 00:26:37,233 --> 00:26:39,355 that turns out to be a place of danger, 537 00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:43,058 or a person who seems to be a friendly person. 538 00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,736 And, of course, one of the greatest things 539 00:26:44,764 --> 00:26:46,262 in "Rosemary's Baby" is the neighbors. 540 00:26:48,009 --> 00:26:50,423 The central figure in this patriarchal crush 541 00:26:50,464 --> 00:26:52,045 is Ruth Gordon. 542 00:26:52,087 --> 00:26:54,458 Hi there! We're not bothering you, are we? 543 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:56,830 I heard you come in. It certainly wasn't very long. 544 00:26:56,871 --> 00:26:58,910 - Ta-da! - Who comes in with her 545 00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:00,741 multicolored scarves and her accent 546 00:27:00,783 --> 00:27:03,903 and delivers a series of death blows 547 00:27:03,945 --> 00:27:07,398 to everything that poor Rosemary stands for. 548 00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:10,019 - Here. - What is in it? Tannis root? 549 00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:13,348 A little bit of that, a little bit some other things. 550 00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:16,010 They're the kind of neighbors you kind of... all right... 551 00:27:16,052 --> 00:27:17,401 You sort of want to avoid them... 552 00:27:17,425 --> 00:27:18,757 - Yeah. - But you're nice to them. 553 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,338 - They're nosy... - They're harmless. 554 00:27:20,380 --> 00:27:22,377 They're harmless, and that they are, you know, 555 00:27:22,418 --> 00:27:23,916 essentially agents of the... 556 00:27:23,957 --> 00:27:25,580 - of the devil. - The devil. 557 00:27:25,622 --> 00:27:27,286 We're your friends, Rosemary. 558 00:27:27,328 --> 00:27:29,325 There's nothing to be afraid of, Rosemary. 559 00:27:29,367 --> 00:27:31,031 Honest and truly there isn't. 560 00:27:31,073 --> 00:27:33,277 Another thing that I think young women 561 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,441 really can relate to in "Rosemary's Baby," 562 00:27:35,483 --> 00:27:37,605 - no one believes her. - One thing is for sure. 563 00:27:37,646 --> 00:27:39,893 They have a coven, and they want my baby. 564 00:27:39,934 --> 00:27:43,221 Certainly seems that way. 565 00:27:43,263 --> 00:27:45,260 To me, there's no scarier moment in the movie 566 00:27:45,302 --> 00:27:47,882 than when you realize her doctor is... 567 00:27:47,923 --> 00:27:49,587 has turned on her. 568 00:27:49,628 --> 00:27:51,085 That feeling of the person 569 00:27:51,127 --> 00:27:52,600 that you've put your ultimate trust in, 570 00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:54,205 like your obstetrician, this guy who's, 571 00:27:54,247 --> 00:27:55,721 like, tending to your body and your femininity, 572 00:27:55,745 --> 00:27:58,575 and he is handing you over to the satanists. 573 00:27:58,615 --> 00:28:00,447 We're gonna go home and rest. 574 00:28:00,488 --> 00:28:01,986 That's all it takes. 575 00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:04,233 Nothing supernatural happens, actually, 576 00:28:04,275 --> 00:28:06,438 for the entire course of the movie. 577 00:28:06,479 --> 00:28:08,352 You know, she could just be paranoid. 578 00:28:08,394 --> 00:28:12,721 She could be suffering from some weird pregnancy delusions. 579 00:28:20,334 --> 00:28:23,081 What have you done to it? 580 00:28:23,123 --> 00:28:24,995 What have you done to its eyes? 581 00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:27,242 He has his father's eyes. 582 00:28:27,283 --> 00:28:29,197 It's not until she actually says, 583 00:28:29,239 --> 00:28:31,609 "What have you done to his eyes?" 584 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:35,646 that there is finally a physical manifestation 585 00:28:35,688 --> 00:28:37,019 of what she's been talking about. 586 00:28:37,061 --> 00:28:38,891 - God is dead! - Hail Satan! 587 00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:40,805 Satan lives! 588 00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:43,426 I made the mistake of showing it to my wife 589 00:28:43,468 --> 00:28:46,006 after I got her impregnated. 590 00:28:46,048 --> 00:28:48,003 Oh, God! 591 00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:49,459 She's like, "I've never seen it." 592 00:28:49,501 --> 00:28:50,850 "What? You've never seen 'Rosemary's Baby'? 593 00:28:50,874 --> 00:28:52,580 We're watching 'Rosemary's Baby. "" 594 00:28:52,622 --> 00:28:53,994 I didn't think about how weird 595 00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:56,158 that might be for someone who was pregnant, 596 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,948 and it really played on her fears 597 00:28:57,988 --> 00:29:03,273 that we were gonna have the antichrist as a child. 598 00:29:03,314 --> 00:29:04,896 Uh, it was a bad call. 599 00:29:04,937 --> 00:29:06,560 "Rosemary's Baby" is a movie 600 00:29:06,601 --> 00:29:09,056 about the dark side of pregnancy. 601 00:29:09,097 --> 00:29:10,762 Richard Donner's film "The Omen" 602 00:29:10,803 --> 00:29:12,884 takes things one step further 603 00:29:12,926 --> 00:29:14,881 with a violent vision of parents 604 00:29:14,923 --> 00:29:18,251 at the mercy of the ultimate problem child: 605 00:29:18,293 --> 00:29:20,457 the spawn of Satan. 606 00:29:24,076 --> 00:29:25,490 When the Jews return to Zion 607 00:29:25,532 --> 00:29:28,486 "and a comet fills the sky, 608 00:29:28,528 --> 00:29:31,565 "the Holy Roman Empire rises, 609 00:29:31,607 --> 00:29:34,020 and you and I must die." 610 00:29:34,061 --> 00:29:37,348 Released in 1976, Richard Donner's film 611 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:41,218 "The Omen" revolves around every parent's secret fear: 612 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:45,337 that their sweet young child is a demon in disguise. 613 00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:50,038 "The Omen" is the story of an American diplomat, 614 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,119 played by Gregory Peck, 615 00:29:52,161 --> 00:29:54,615 who takes a child home from the hospital 616 00:29:54,657 --> 00:29:58,651 that is not his own and sets up shop 617 00:29:58,693 --> 00:30:01,231 and seems to have this beautiful life in England, 618 00:30:01,273 --> 00:30:03,186 and then the whole thing starts to unravel, 619 00:30:03,228 --> 00:30:04,560 and we discover that the child 620 00:30:04,601 --> 00:30:07,264 is actually the son of the devil. 621 00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:09,178 "The Omen" is like my hands-down 622 00:30:09,219 --> 00:30:11,924 favorite horror movie. 623 00:30:11,966 --> 00:30:15,086 It's intellectually a little bit above par 624 00:30:15,128 --> 00:30:16,999 than the average thing you would watch 625 00:30:17,041 --> 00:30:18,956 at the video store, right? 626 00:30:18,997 --> 00:30:20,994 Right. It was a big-budget movie. 627 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,408 Richard Donner. It was a huge deal. 628 00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:23,925 Yeah, and Gregory Peck is great in it. 629 00:30:23,949 --> 00:30:25,279 Lee Remick's great in it. 630 00:30:25,321 --> 00:30:27,734 So I just thought it hit on all... you know, 631 00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:31,230 the quality was really high on all the different facets. 632 00:30:31,271 --> 00:30:33,143 Gregory Peck in a horror movie. 633 00:30:33,185 --> 00:30:34,682 That was kind of a big deal, 634 00:30:34,724 --> 00:30:35,972 having an actor of his stature. 635 00:30:36,014 --> 00:30:37,928 It was a '50s-era, 636 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:41,423 established older Hollywood legend 637 00:30:41,465 --> 00:30:43,171 that was now appearing in this horror film, 638 00:30:43,212 --> 00:30:46,208 and he gave it, along with Lee Remick, 639 00:30:46,249 --> 00:30:48,829 gave it this patina of class. 640 00:30:48,871 --> 00:30:52,491 Peck was going through a terrible time in his life. 641 00:30:52,532 --> 00:30:54,279 His son was found dead. 642 00:30:54,321 --> 00:30:56,651 He was so devastated, 643 00:30:56,693 --> 00:30:59,688 and his agent said, "I got to get him out. 644 00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:01,685 "I got to get him up on his feet. 645 00:31:01,727 --> 00:31:03,391 I got to get him working." 646 00:31:03,433 --> 00:31:06,720 We pitched him, "Greg, it's a strong mystery, 647 00:31:06,762 --> 00:31:08,633 the suspense is incredible, 648 00:31:08,675 --> 00:31:10,964 and on top of it, it's a thriller." 649 00:31:11,006 --> 00:31:13,668 Damien, the adopted boy in "The Omen," 650 00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:17,122 does not seem to be aware that the devil is inside him, 651 00:31:17,164 --> 00:31:18,828 but as he grows older, 652 00:31:18,869 --> 00:31:22,032 Satan's agents begin infiltrating his life. 653 00:31:22,073 --> 00:31:25,401 They send a sinister Rottweiler to protect him, 654 00:31:25,443 --> 00:31:27,606 and, in an infamous scene, 655 00:31:27,648 --> 00:31:31,435 they possess his nanny at his fifth birthday party. 656 00:31:31,476 --> 00:31:34,264 - Look at me, Damien. - "Damien, this is for you." 657 00:31:34,305 --> 00:31:35,845 - It's all for you. - Like... 658 00:31:35,886 --> 00:31:38,507 she kills herself at the kid's party. 659 00:31:43,209 --> 00:31:45,289 In "The Omen," we don't really know 660 00:31:45,331 --> 00:31:47,910 that Damien is the antichrist. 661 00:31:47,952 --> 00:31:50,990 Neither does Gregory Peck. It's not until somewhere 662 00:31:51,031 --> 00:31:53,569 towards the beginning of the second half 663 00:31:53,611 --> 00:31:56,148 that you really come to terms with the fact 664 00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,228 that they're harboring the antichrist. 665 00:32:05,135 --> 00:32:07,257 So the movie has a story to tell, 666 00:32:07,299 --> 00:32:11,876 and then it's gonna be, "What do they do about it?" 667 00:32:11,918 --> 00:32:15,746 They cast it well. They cast the son of the devil well. 668 00:32:15,787 --> 00:32:19,157 - Mom! - Damien... stop! 669 00:32:19,199 --> 00:32:20,714 When you can get, like, a good performance 670 00:32:20,738 --> 00:32:22,236 out of children in a horror movie, 671 00:32:22,278 --> 00:32:23,817 there's, like, nothing more effective. 672 00:32:28,353 --> 00:32:31,015 There's just something inherently creepy about kids. 673 00:32:31,057 --> 00:32:32,721 Even my own children, 674 00:32:32,763 --> 00:32:34,676 if they wake me up in the middle of the night, 675 00:32:34,718 --> 00:32:36,275 and they're just standing motionless next to the bed, 676 00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:40,044 I'm briefly scared, and I made them. 677 00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:43,205 Casting that child, we did one scene where I said, 678 00:32:43,247 --> 00:32:46,950 "I'm gonna grab you, and you want to get away." 679 00:32:46,992 --> 00:32:48,947 Grabbed this kid, went rolling, 680 00:32:48,989 --> 00:32:50,904 and he kicked me in my privates... 681 00:32:53,441 --> 00:32:54,731 Oh! 682 00:32:58,101 --> 00:33:01,180 So hard that I just threw my hands up 683 00:33:01,221 --> 00:33:03,926 and said, "Cut! Hire him." 684 00:33:03,968 --> 00:33:06,922 Aaahh! 685 00:33:09,085 --> 00:33:11,748 After Damien nearly kills his mother, 686 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:14,994 Peck's character searches for the boy's true parents. 687 00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:16,991 His quest triggers an avalanche 688 00:33:17,032 --> 00:33:19,320 of violence and death. 689 00:33:19,362 --> 00:33:21,068 Aaah! 690 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:23,148 The spectacular staging of these scenes 691 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:24,855 is one of the reasons 692 00:33:24,896 --> 00:33:27,017 "The Omen" is considered a horror classic. 693 00:33:29,764 --> 00:33:33,425 I wasn't prepared for how scary it was gonna get. 694 00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:35,548 Forget about the gore and everything. 695 00:33:35,589 --> 00:33:37,752 That... didn't see that coming at all. 696 00:33:37,794 --> 00:33:39,227 - You know, just the... - The dog, the music. 697 00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:42,246 The Rottweilers surrounding them 698 00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,702 in the graveyard was, like, 699 00:33:43,744 --> 00:33:44,885 "Oh, my God, what's gonna happen?" 700 00:33:50,692 --> 00:33:52,689 But then, the decapitations. 701 00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:55,810 I mean, that just... that was very scary. 702 00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:04,297 I never saw that coming. 703 00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:08,832 At the end of the movie, we dropped the camera, 704 00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:10,829 and it revealed the back of the kid, 705 00:34:10,871 --> 00:34:12,951 which I was right behind the camera. 706 00:34:12,993 --> 00:34:15,364 Kid turned and looked at me, 707 00:34:15,406 --> 00:34:17,445 and he had this severe face on, 708 00:34:17,487 --> 00:34:21,564 and I said, "Don't you smile. Don't you dare smile." 709 00:34:21,606 --> 00:34:24,768 And he started to fight the smile, 710 00:34:24,809 --> 00:34:27,930 and then he couldn't fight it anymore, and he kind of lit up. 711 00:34:27,972 --> 00:34:31,508 It was like, blow up, the end of a movie. 712 00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:34,504 Was this real? Am I really the devil? 713 00:34:34,546 --> 00:34:39,954 Did this really happen? And it changed the whole movie. 714 00:34:39,996 --> 00:34:43,575 I never had children. They scare the hell out of me. 715 00:34:43,615 --> 00:34:46,570 At their core, possession movies are about 716 00:34:46,611 --> 00:34:48,525 the fear of losing yourself, 717 00:34:48,567 --> 00:34:51,730 of a demon taking control of your body and your mind. 718 00:34:51,771 --> 00:34:53,352 I can't move. 719 00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:56,514 In 2017, Jordan Peele's "Get Out" 720 00:34:56,556 --> 00:35:01,631 took that idea and used it to hold a mirror up to America. 721 00:35:04,627 --> 00:35:06,375 Good to see another brother around here. 722 00:35:06,417 --> 00:35:08,579 A young black man meets another young black man. 723 00:35:08,621 --> 00:35:13,198 Ah, yes. Of course it is. 724 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,069 But something is very wrong here. 725 00:35:16,111 --> 00:35:20,230 Jordan Peele's "Get Out" is by turns a social satire 726 00:35:20,271 --> 00:35:24,182 and a genuinely horrific tale of demonic possession, 727 00:35:24,224 --> 00:35:27,220 but the demons here aren't from hell. 728 00:35:27,261 --> 00:35:29,800 Get out. 729 00:35:29,841 --> 00:35:31,505 Sorry, man. 730 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:32,671 Get out! 731 00:35:33,543 --> 00:35:36,248 I love, love, love possession films. 732 00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:38,787 - Hello. - Hi. 733 00:35:38,828 --> 00:35:42,115 My mother used to do this thing to me, 734 00:35:42,156 --> 00:35:45,652 play this little joke on me. Every now and then, I would go, 735 00:35:45,693 --> 00:35:47,191 "Mom, Mom, can I get this candy?" 736 00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:49,064 or whatever, and she would look at me, 737 00:35:49,104 --> 00:35:53,973 and she'd go, "Mommy's not here anymore, Jordan," 738 00:35:54,015 --> 00:35:56,926 and I'd be like, "Don't do it," like, "Come on. Mom." 739 00:35:56,968 --> 00:36:00,880 And she'd be like, "I'm serious. Mom isn't here." 740 00:36:00,921 --> 00:36:04,874 - Who was she? - Right. That's the question. 741 00:36:04,915 --> 00:36:06,746 That's the question I've never answered. 742 00:36:06,787 --> 00:36:10,657 All I know is sometimes if there's too many white people, 743 00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:12,280 I get nervous, you know? 744 00:36:12,322 --> 00:36:13,944 "Get Out" is a possession film. 745 00:36:13,986 --> 00:36:15,358 It is a possession film. 746 00:36:17,522 --> 00:36:19,270 Instead of the devil possessing you, 747 00:36:19,312 --> 00:36:21,766 it's literally the white devil possessing your body. 748 00:36:21,808 --> 00:36:22,805 I'm into it. 749 00:36:22,806 --> 00:36:27,882 Oh, no. No. No. 750 00:36:27,924 --> 00:36:30,421 And there haven't been a lot of movies 751 00:36:30,462 --> 00:36:34,206 that deal with race straight on in the genre space. 752 00:36:34,248 --> 00:36:35,705 Do they know I'm black? 753 00:36:38,325 --> 00:36:39,782 No. 754 00:36:39,824 --> 00:36:41,571 And I wanted this movie to be, 755 00:36:41,612 --> 00:36:43,734 "You can't do this movie with a white guy." 756 00:36:43,776 --> 00:36:45,690 My dad would have voted for Obama a third time 757 00:36:45,731 --> 00:36:50,350 if he could have. Like, the love is so real. 758 00:36:50,392 --> 00:36:53,637 In a nutshell, it's a story of a black guy 759 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,217 who meets his white girlfriend's parents 760 00:36:56,259 --> 00:37:01,708 and kind of gets more than what he's expecting, in a nutshell. 761 00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:04,870 I would have voted for Obama for a third term if I could. 762 00:37:04,912 --> 00:37:08,449 Best president in my lifetime, hands down. 763 00:37:08,491 --> 00:37:10,238 - I agree. - Yeah. 764 00:37:10,279 --> 00:37:13,816 There is a genuine mystery going on 765 00:37:13,858 --> 00:37:17,520 in the case of "Get Out." The audience knows, 766 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,057 okay, there's something weird about this family. 767 00:37:20,098 --> 00:37:21,888 There is definitely something weird 768 00:37:21,930 --> 00:37:24,634 about those black servants. 769 00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:27,546 There's something weird about this whole damn place. 770 00:37:27,588 --> 00:37:31,624 But exactly what, you don't know. 771 00:37:35,951 --> 00:37:37,532 But now you're really watching, 772 00:37:37,574 --> 00:37:39,238 because now you're watching a mystery. 773 00:37:39,279 --> 00:37:41,775 Jordan Peele knows exactly what he's doing, 774 00:37:41,817 --> 00:37:44,605 and we're gonna just have to wait for it. 775 00:37:44,646 --> 00:37:47,310 Do you find that being African-American 776 00:37:47,351 --> 00:37:51,969 has more advantage or disadvantage? 777 00:37:52,011 --> 00:37:54,175 Being black in America, 778 00:37:54,216 --> 00:37:57,295 there's certain dials you're sort of tuned into 779 00:37:57,336 --> 00:38:00,083 to not walk into a - up situation. 780 00:38:00,125 --> 00:38:02,413 I got hypnotized last night.. 781 00:38:02,455 --> 00:38:04,077 Get the out of here. 782 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:06,116 No, yo, yo, yeah, yeah, to quit smoking, 783 00:38:06,158 --> 00:38:08,654 but Rose's mom's a psychiatrist, so... 784 00:38:08,696 --> 00:38:09,711 Bro, I don't care if the bitch 785 00:38:09,735 --> 00:38:11,691 is Iyanla Vanzant, okay? 786 00:38:11,732 --> 00:38:14,271 She can't fix my life. You ain't getting in my head. 787 00:38:14,312 --> 00:38:16,767 Chris always thinks he's got the situation in hand... 788 00:38:16,809 --> 00:38:18,515 - Yes. - Because they're, like, 789 00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:20,155 a bunch of white people. What are they gonna do? 790 00:38:20,179 --> 00:38:21,844 We're kind of like, we can forgive him. 791 00:38:21,884 --> 00:38:23,507 Oh, he's not being dumb. 792 00:38:23,549 --> 00:38:26,919 Is he really going to jump to the conclusion 793 00:38:26,961 --> 00:38:31,122 that this family is literally evil, physically threats? 794 00:38:31,163 --> 00:38:32,494 Like, that's crazy. 795 00:38:32,536 --> 00:38:37,071 Now... sink into the floor. 796 00:38:37,113 --> 00:38:38,777 - Wait, wait, wait... - Sink. 797 00:38:43,728 --> 00:38:46,599 The minute Chris is sent into the sunken place, 798 00:38:46,641 --> 00:38:50,926 I realized that this movie was not just going to be scary 799 00:38:50,967 --> 00:38:53,006 and not just going to be interesting 800 00:38:53,048 --> 00:38:55,087 but also going to be important. 801 00:38:58,415 --> 00:39:00,746 Because he created a metaphor 802 00:39:00,787 --> 00:39:05,031 that now gives so many of us language to explain 803 00:39:05,073 --> 00:39:10,856 what a state of suppression looks like and feels like. 804 00:39:10,898 --> 00:39:13,353 Now you're in the sunken place. 805 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:14,975 When you're in the sunken place, 806 00:39:15,017 --> 00:39:16,431 you can still see what's happening. 807 00:39:16,473 --> 00:39:18,470 You're not unaware. 808 00:39:18,511 --> 00:39:24,337 It's just that you feel there's nothing you can do about it. 809 00:39:24,378 --> 00:39:26,958 Someone or something has taken control over you, 810 00:39:26,999 --> 00:39:29,746 so therefore you're powerless, and it doesn't matter 811 00:39:29,787 --> 00:39:32,741 what color, where you come from, 812 00:39:32,782 --> 00:39:36,402 you can be in the sunken place just by not having a voice. 813 00:39:36,444 --> 00:39:39,648 In a pivotal scene in "Get Out," 814 00:39:39,689 --> 00:39:41,769 we discover all the black people 815 00:39:41,811 --> 00:39:45,140 Chris has met on the estate have been sold at auction. 816 00:39:45,181 --> 00:39:47,636 Their bodies have been taken over by white people 817 00:39:47,678 --> 00:39:50,549 who desire their youth and physicality. 818 00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:55,749 They are trapped in the sunken place, yearning for freedom. 819 00:39:55,791 --> 00:39:57,330 It's really a Trojan horse 820 00:39:57,372 --> 00:40:02,074 for telling a much more important story. 821 00:40:02,116 --> 00:40:06,235 Where the country is certainly helped propel 822 00:40:06,276 --> 00:40:08,981 the success of "Get Out," and also made "Get Out" 823 00:40:09,022 --> 00:40:12,684 a particularly important movie for its time 824 00:40:12,725 --> 00:40:16,262 in a way that, you know, it wouldn't have been, 825 00:40:16,303 --> 00:40:18,800 and, you know, I wish that that weren't true, but it is. 826 00:40:18,841 --> 00:40:20,464 I mean, at the end of the day, 827 00:40:20,506 --> 00:40:24,125 the movie is about how racism is horrifying. 828 00:40:24,167 --> 00:40:28,036 It's the most horrific thing in our world today, 829 00:40:28,078 --> 00:40:30,990 is just people just hating 830 00:40:31,032 --> 00:40:33,445 other people for whatever reasons they do. 831 00:40:33,487 --> 00:40:37,106 What is your purpose, Chris? 832 00:40:37,148 --> 00:40:38,396 What? 833 00:40:40,809 --> 00:40:42,806 - In life. - Is there a better statement 834 00:40:42,848 --> 00:40:46,551 on race relations in America? I don't think so, you know? 835 00:40:46,593 --> 00:40:49,713 And that's totally pushed the bar on satire and horror 836 00:40:49,755 --> 00:40:51,461 and cut very deep, 837 00:40:51,502 --> 00:40:54,373 at the same way is being entertaining. 838 00:40:54,415 --> 00:40:56,786 And that's what genre movies do at their best, 839 00:40:56,828 --> 00:40:58,451 especially great horror movies. 840 00:40:58,492 --> 00:41:02,819 It gives you a way to discuss the undiscussable. 841 00:41:02,861 --> 00:41:04,692 - Yes. - It gives you a context 842 00:41:04,734 --> 00:41:06,440 to talk about subjects 843 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,437 that are just awful and painful for everyone... 844 00:41:08,478 --> 00:41:10,101 - Yeah. - But you can put it 845 00:41:10,143 --> 00:41:12,222 in the context of a scary movie, 846 00:41:12,264 --> 00:41:15,218 whether it's a zombie movie, whether it's a "Get Out" movie, 847 00:41:15,260 --> 00:41:17,923 and it's like you're suddenly allowed to talk about it. 848 00:41:17,964 --> 00:41:20,086 And everybody needs it. 849 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,993 Even if it's not in the package of a horror movie, 850 00:41:27,034 --> 00:41:29,656 everybody has this dark side that needs to be filled. 851 00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:37,644 I mean, I told you not to go in that house. 65742

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