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Now they're planning
the crime of the century
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Well what will it be?
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Read all about their schemes
and adventuring
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It's well worth a fee#
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We are living
in a glorious time,
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a time of great conflict
to be sure.
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Today, a nationwide crackdown
was underway...
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... eight men were arrested
from...
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... hardcore
pornographic pictures.
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On one side of the coin
are those in favor
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of absolutely no censorship.
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On the other hand,
there are those who advocate
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the government dictating to us
what we should see,
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read, and hear.
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... they say it all started
with the sex film Deep Throat.
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I saw Deep Throat in New York
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when it first came out.
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People were lined up
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for at least three blocks.
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I was once out strolling
one very hot summer's day
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Oh, yeah, there was
a screening in some
psychoanalyst's apartment
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and everybody
watched and smoked dope.
Oh, yeah.
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I dreamed I was
in a Hollywood movie
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That I was the star
of the movie
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This really blew my mind
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I thought, "Fantastic.
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"This is going to change
the climate
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"of talking about
issues of sexuality
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in these United States."
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Spill the wine
and take that pearl#
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I'm one of the handful
of people who never saw it.
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I didn't intend to not see it.
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Perhaps you could
arrange for me to see it.
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Now.
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Deep Throat was
an epochal moment
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in the history
of modern sexuality.
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It is the first time
that respectable
middle-class women
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went to porn theaters.
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It really broke down,
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uh, traditional codes
of... of decorum.
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Linda Lovelace,
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and conversations,
and jokes about Deep Throat,
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appeared
on network television.
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If the film
became mainstream,
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conversation about it
became truly mainstream.
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It's kind of
a strange country, isn't it?
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Judges can see Deep Throat,
but they can't listen
to those tapes.
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I think the major thing
that set, uh,
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Deep Throat apart was,
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it had a gimmick.
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Ah! Ah... ah!
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Well, there it is,
you little bugger,
there it is.
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What?
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Your clitoris, it's deep down
in the bottom of your throat.
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The clitoris
hidden in the throat
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was something
you could talk about
and laugh about.
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It's better than having
no clitoris at all.
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That's easy
for you to say.
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Suppose your balls
were in your ear.
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I was 19 when I saw it.
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I don't think I had found
where the clitoris really was.
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So I think the idea
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that it was misplaced
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on the human body
was lost on me.
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L... I was looking for
the original site.
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It was a giggle.
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And the worst thing
to be said about us,
as Americans,
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is that we'll sell
our souls for a giggle.
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Listen, uh, we have
the problem solved.
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All we have to do now
is find the solution.
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Like what?
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Like deep throat.
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Deep what?
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Throat.
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Have you ever taken
a penis all the way down
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to the bottom
of your throat?
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It was a badge of
the new freedom.
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Have you been
to the experience
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of paying to go
in a porno theater
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And see a woman
give a blowjob
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in a movie theater
in your community?
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That was very, very new.
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Something that's hard
for people today to imagine,
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how liberating that was.
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Or... or terrible, depending on
what you believe in.
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It's a floodtide of
filth that's engulfed
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the minds and
hearts and souls
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of America like
nothing else ever has.
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We have smut all over the face
of this country now
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because we are letting
those immoral people
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have their way
in our country.
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Deep Throat succeeded
commercially at least in part
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because the government
went after it.
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The government became
the driving force
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behind the public relations.
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I just saw it and I liked it.
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I liked it. I wanted to see
a dirty picture
and that's what I saw.
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But I want the right
to see that picture.
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I don't want somebody
telling me that I can't
see a dirty picture.
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Deep Throat attacks
the very core of our being.
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Every time someone
watches that movie,
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they're watching me
being raped.
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Do I belong in jail
for five years
for acting in Deep Throat?
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Deep Throat now
has had a phenomenal success
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going on
for two-and-a-half years,
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and it's only
because it's being hassled.
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Do you think
it's a good movie?
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No, I don't think
it's a good movie.
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I'm takin' a walk,
Mrs. Brown.
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I am doing fine, dear,
thank you.
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I rode my bicycle
past your window last night
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I roller-skated
to your door at daylight
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It almost seems
like you're avoiding me
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These are some pictures
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or posters from some
of the films I've done.
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Well, I got a brand new pair
of roller-skates
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You got a brand new key
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Aren't they kind of cute?
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I think that we should
get together
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A picture of Gerard, my son,
when he was a lot younger,
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and my daughter
when she was younger.
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You got something for me
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Long before Deep Throat,
Damiano was a family man.
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He and his wife
ran a beauty salon
in Queens, New York.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah#
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I enjoyed being a hairdresser
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because I always
could relate to women.
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After you got to know
the woman,
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especially when you
worked on them weekly,
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you start to get into history
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about "we went to the movies"
and "he did this and I did..."
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And realize that most...
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most of the women
were very unhappy
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in their relationship
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with the person that
they were married to
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and supposedly
in love with.
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After 40 years of marriage,
you know, you can get
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tired of the good old
in and out.
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You... you got to be intimate.
It was almost like a priest.
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I mean, I... I don't wanna say
I was a priest,
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but it was almost like...
it was almost like
a confessor.
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The confessions Damiano heard
in his salon,
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made him realize he
was on the frontlines
of a sexual revolution.
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We grew up in a time
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in which sex itself
was largely taboo.
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When I was a kid,
young people didn't even know
where babies came from.
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I'd love to know.
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If I watch
the rest of this program,
will I know the answer?
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Gore Vidal would be very good
on the subject.
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You must take into account
how ignorant people are.
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Particularly our countrymen,
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who have never taken
a course in biology,
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never read a book.
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Do you know anything
about the facts of life?
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Not very much,
I'm afraid.
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The facts of life
and sexual morality in general
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were forbidden topics.
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But as all that changed,
issues about sexuality
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began to divide society.
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Artificial contraception
is wrong.
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Evil.
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People were experimenting.
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They were looking
for new kinds of lives.
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They were looking to break out
of all the old molds.
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And we knew
the American public were tired
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of words like "coitus."
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They wanted words,
like "fuck,"
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and "suck," and "eat my cunt."
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I think the more that
filth is thrown at Americans
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the less favored it becomes.
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They're depicting sex
in a very filthy way.
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Jackie Kennedy
went to see that.
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The next week,
the gross doubled.
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L... I don't mind
seeing sex in a... in a movie
just for its own sake
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because I think that's one
of the, you know,
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more interesting
human emotions.
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Sex was in movies.
Sex was on TV.
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Sex came out of the closet.
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You had to be there.
You had to be there.
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I'm thrilled
that I was there.
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And thank God
I had a camera with me.
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As the sexual revolution
swept through society,
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people took sides
in a culture war
that was gathering steam.
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Gerry Damiano
Joined the fray by swapping
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his blow dryer
for a movie camera.
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I loved film.
L... I always did.
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The only thing you could make
was sex films.
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Uh, that was the only thing
you were allowed to make
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and you made them
at a low budget.
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Doing hardcore films
in those days, the early '70s,
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was very much
like summer stock.
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It was like,
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"Daddy has a barn,
let's do a show."
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Oh, my!
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Oh!
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Lt... it was the only choice
we had.
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Till 24 years old
without,
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you know, uh, uh,
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what do you call it, uh,
a track record, you know.
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And these things
were so inexpensive.
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Okay, what I want now is
some of your ass,
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all right?
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I meant business.
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I approached those films as if
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I was Luc Godard
or somebody, you know.
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And just wiggle it
towards us.
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I want to fill up
40 feet of screen
with your ass.
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You're always
after my ass.
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Keep wigglin'.
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That's where I met
half of the people
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that I became
acquainted with.
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We were all working
for nothing.
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Well, one of
Gerry's motivations
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was to get laid.
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Really. And he did.
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You could make a living
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if you were a filmmaker,
making these films.
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Quite a number of people
became legitimate
Hollywood directors
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out of the porn industry.
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I mean, for a while there,
it was kinda like
the entry level job
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that you would do.
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Uh, you would
work on... on porn.
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I'm... I... I certainly
worked on them.
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I'm not gonna say
which ones,
but I... I was around it.
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All of sudden, there was
a new word.
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It was called "filmmaker."
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You became
an independent filmmaker.
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We were actually doing it
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And we couldn't believe it.
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We couldn't believe it,
and thank God there was,
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there was such
a thing as sex.
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There was sex,
but at the time,
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the only way to put
hardcore sex
on the screen legally,
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was in sex education films.
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My name is
Dr. Morris Rosengarden.
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They would show sexual scenes,
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but they couldn't be accused
of pornography
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because it had
an educational value.
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Some men
find their wives' buttocks
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very stimulating visually.
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We needed a father figure
for almost everything.
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This may be uncomfortable
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for the obese
or older couples.
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Why did you need a doctor
to tell you it was okay?
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And I said,
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"Hey, instead of
discussing not doing it,
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let's do it
and don't even discuss it."
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There's nothing
to be ashamed of.
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But there was plenty
to be afraid of.
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In addition to
running the risk of arrest
and incarceration,
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the criminal underworid
virtually controlled
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the production of pornography.
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There was something exciting
about it.
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It... it lived in some,
uh, mid-worid
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between crime and art
257
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and it was adventurous.
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Young people today
would be in it for the money
259
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whereas in the old days,
it was for the rebellion.
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Frankly, everybody
in one way or another
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was connected to that business
262
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because psychologically,
socially, it was happening.
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You know, it was part
of a social movement
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at the time.
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Anybody who took chances
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in breaking the social mores
of the time,
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was considered a hero.
268
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I believed in it.
269
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I believed that it was
about time to say
270
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that sex
is a beautiful thing,
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the human body is
a beautiful thing,
272
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and you really
shouldn't be ashamed of it.
273
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Securing financial backing
from partners
274
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with underworid connections,
275
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Damiano raised
enough money to shoot
a hardcore sex feature.
276
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It was going to be called
The Doctor Makes a House Call.
277
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Then Damiano met his muse,
278
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Linda Lovelace,
and everything changed.
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To me, I always looked at her
as the girl next door.
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Before she became worid-famous
as Linda Lovelace,
281
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Linda Boreman
dreamt of opening
a clothing boutique
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until she met Chuck Traynor.
283
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I guess he was an escape
for her.
284
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She was not comfortable
living in her parents' home.
285
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And he took her away
from that.
286
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But things
started getting strange.
287
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Linda told me
that she had quit smoking,
288
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and I said,
"Well, how did you do it,
how did you quit?"
289
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She said that
Chuck had hypnotized her.
290
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She said every time
she tried to have a cigarette,
291
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that she would hiccup.
292
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I'm like, "Oh, well, okay."
293
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Within a year,
they were married.
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I curse the day that
she ever met
295
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Chuck Traynor.
296
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Unfortunately, he died
before I could kill him,
297
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so lucky for him.
298
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Then I lost contact
and her mother told me that
299
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uh, they're living in New York
and he's doing
300
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documentary films,
301
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and I thought,
"How nice, how exciting."
302
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Chuck had come to my office
303
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and I needed a scene
for another film.
304
00:18:08,389 --> 00:18:10,983
He says, "Well,
Linda can do something."
305
00:18:11,058 --> 00:18:13,253
You know, she...
There was no name for it.
306
00:18:13,327 --> 00:18:15,989
He says,
"She gives head very well."
307
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:18,029
I said,
"Well, that's wonderful."
308
00:18:18,099 --> 00:18:20,624
So we set up with her
and an actor
309
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to do a... a bit
for another film.
310
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And when I saw
what she could do,
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I says, "Stop the cameras."
312
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All I could think about was
what she was doing
313
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was so unique
314
00:18:49,163 --> 00:18:51,961
that I could build
a whole film around it.
315
00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:59,437
Making a motion picture
specifically about
that sexual act,
316
00:19:00,074 --> 00:19:02,838
l... I found very daring
and very courageous.
317
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The first thing that came
to my mind was... was the title
318
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of Deep, Deep Throat.
319
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Because something happened
deep down in... in her throat.
320
00:19:15,823 --> 00:19:19,486
What? The clitoris
is in her throat?
321
00:19:22,963 --> 00:19:24,555
Gerry, you can't do this.
322
00:19:26,133 --> 00:19:29,432
You can't do this.
It's absurd, it's silly.
323
00:19:29,537 --> 00:19:31,437
Nobody will believe it.
324
00:19:32,139 --> 00:19:33,572
I thought it was,
325
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You know,
326
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absurd. I did.
327
00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:46,510
Believe it or not,
some people said,
"What is this, a medical film?
328
00:19:46,587 --> 00:19:49,181
What are you gonna do?
With doctors?"
329
00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:51,523
I said, "No. No."
330
00:19:51,692 --> 00:19:53,990
Somebody said it should be
The Sword Swallower.
331
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I said, "No, no. Deep Throat,
believe me, it'll work.
It'll work."
332
00:19:57,998 --> 00:19:59,295
And, uh,
333
00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:03,935
I'm glad I didn't change it
to The Sword Swallower.
334
00:20:06,974 --> 00:20:09,670
I, kind of,
had the whole thing
335
00:20:09,743 --> 00:20:12,644
in... in my head driving over
the 59th Street Bridge.
336
00:20:12,713 --> 00:20:15,079
That weekend,
I wrote the script
337
00:20:15,149 --> 00:20:16,946
and we... we were ready
to do it.
338
00:20:20,921 --> 00:20:23,617
And I spoke to
my production manager,
339
00:20:23,691 --> 00:20:24,885
Ronnie Wertheim.
340
00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:33,292
The phone rang.
It was Gerry. All excited.
341
00:20:33,367 --> 00:20:36,768
And I told him to bring
all our cast and crew
342
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:39,862
down to Florida.
We're going to make the film.
343
00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:44,002
I just called, uh,
Harry Reems.
344
00:20:44,111 --> 00:20:46,306
He came as
a production assistant.
345
00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:48,507
He wasn't even supposed
to be in the film.
346
00:20:53,554 --> 00:20:55,613
When we got to Florida,
we all checked into
347
00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:58,624
this, uh, motel,
I think it was called
The Voyager.
348
00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:02,492
As we pulled in,
we saw Linda Lovelace
349
00:21:04,131 --> 00:21:06,190
lying on the lawn with her...
350
00:21:06,267 --> 00:21:08,292
You know what her
pussycat's name was?
351
00:21:09,203 --> 00:21:12,172
Adolf Hitler.
He had a mustache like that.
352
00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:21,104
We came from New York
353
00:21:21,181 --> 00:21:24,048
with the promise of
having locations.
354
00:21:27,755 --> 00:21:29,689
To me, it was nothing.
355
00:21:29,757 --> 00:21:33,488
I thought nothing of it.
I thought it was just
a... a piece of shit film.
356
00:21:34,228 --> 00:21:37,129
Probably one of
the worst porno movies
ever made.
357
00:21:37,865 --> 00:21:41,028
He's nuts.
Lenny Camp was nuts.
358
00:21:41,101 --> 00:21:44,093
He was one of
the guys that were lining up
everything for us.
359
00:21:44,171 --> 00:21:46,139
And, uh, we got nothing.
360
00:21:48,309 --> 00:21:49,867
If it wasn't for us,
361
00:21:49,977 --> 00:21:51,911
this guy would look like
a piece of shit,
362
00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:53,241
which he really is.
363
00:21:54,381 --> 00:21:57,441
The only thing that saved us,
I said, "Wait a minute,
364
00:21:57,518 --> 00:22:00,419
"we're at The Voyager Motel,
let's go back and shoot
365
00:22:00,487 --> 00:22:02,853
what we were supposed to do
here in the pool. "
366
00:22:02,923 --> 00:22:05,517
From that moment on,
everybody was
location hunting.
367
00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:08,493
One of the locations
that we shot at
down in Florida,
368
00:22:08,562 --> 00:22:11,929
was at this, uh,
home in Coconut Grove
369
00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:15,797
that was owned by a guy
who called himself a count.
370
00:22:15,869 --> 00:22:18,099
He's not a count.
He's a horseshit count.
371
00:22:18,205 --> 00:22:20,799
He is no count,
he's fucking Sepy Dobronyi.
372
00:22:20,908 --> 00:22:23,502
And God knows
if that's his real name.
373
00:22:31,185 --> 00:22:33,483
When we came,
they had this elaborate,
374
00:22:33,554 --> 00:22:35,488
elaborate, elaborate
wine cellar.
375
00:22:35,756 --> 00:22:37,519
Should we go
to the wine cellar?
376
00:22:37,591 --> 00:22:38,751
Yes.
377
00:22:40,194 --> 00:22:44,597
Yeah, Oh, yeah,
Oh, yeah
378
00:22:46,633 --> 00:22:51,593
Yeah, Oh, yeah,
Oh, yeah
379
00:22:54,408 --> 00:22:56,000
Yeah, Oh, yeah,
Oh, yeah#
380
00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:12,684
If it was planned,
it would not have
been as exciting,
381
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,161
'cause we were just rushing
from one place to another.
382
00:23:16,964 --> 00:23:18,295
You all right?
383
00:23:18,365 --> 00:23:20,094
Yeah, I'm fine,
what makes you say that?
384
00:23:20,167 --> 00:23:21,998
You,
the way you're acting.
385
00:23:22,069 --> 00:23:24,094
In the very beginning,
there were no
386
00:23:24,204 --> 00:23:26,331
porno actors and actresses.
387
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,534
So everybody
had to be taught.
388
00:23:29,643 --> 00:23:31,543
The actors are all shit.
389
00:23:31,612 --> 00:23:33,807
Not... not taught
in the sense of taught.
390
00:23:33,881 --> 00:23:35,712
Taught how to be natural.
391
00:23:35,983 --> 00:23:37,143
Sex,
392
00:23:37,651 --> 00:23:40,347
it makes me feel sort of
tingly all over.
393
00:23:40,421 --> 00:23:41,445
And then...
394
00:23:41,522 --> 00:23:42,580
And then what?
395
00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:43,714
Nothing.
396
00:23:43,791 --> 00:23:46,954
I mean, there should be
more to sex
than a lot of little tingles.
397
00:23:47,027 --> 00:23:48,824
There should be
bells ringing,
398
00:23:48,896 --> 00:23:51,558
dams bursting,
bombs going off, something.
399
00:23:51,632 --> 00:23:53,998
Do you want to get off
or do you want
to wreck a city?
400
00:23:54,067 --> 00:23:55,830
Helen, please, be serious.
401
00:23:55,903 --> 00:23:57,768
Gerry knew nothing about it.
402
00:23:57,871 --> 00:24:01,807
He knew nothing about acting,
he knew nothing about, um...
403
00:24:02,843 --> 00:24:05,311
He knew nothing.
He knew nothing.
404
00:24:05,379 --> 00:24:07,711
But as a swinger himself,
405
00:24:07,781 --> 00:24:10,249
he had a feel
for how to get people
406
00:24:10,317 --> 00:24:11,477
in a sexual mood.
407
00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:14,444
Do you wanna touch me?
408
00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:19,322
Do you wanna touch me?
Do you wanna touch me? Yeah#
409
00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:23,056
The really important thing
was Harry Reems.
410
00:24:23,664 --> 00:24:26,098
I couldn't find
anybody in Florida
411
00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:28,726
that could even come close
to doing the role.
412
00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:31,828
So at one point,
I fired him off the crew,
413
00:24:33,207 --> 00:24:35,835
And hired him as the lead,
and thank God he was there,
414
00:24:35,943 --> 00:24:38,411
because I... I don't know
of anybody
415
00:24:39,112 --> 00:24:41,603
that could have even
come close to doing
416
00:24:41,682 --> 00:24:43,411
the job that he did,
417
00:24:43,884 --> 00:24:45,283
as... as the wacky doctor.
418
00:24:45,352 --> 00:24:46,979
I want to hear bells.
419
00:24:47,054 --> 00:24:48,214
Bells?
420
00:24:48,288 --> 00:24:49,516
Bombs.
Bombs?
421
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:51,080
And dams bursting.
422
00:24:51,158 --> 00:24:52,420
The rockets' red glare.
423
00:24:52,526 --> 00:24:55,689
No, he's not an actor,
he knows that.
424
00:24:58,031 --> 00:24:59,521
Bombs bursting
in air.
425
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,263
Gave proof through the night
that our flag
was still there#
426
00:25:03,604 --> 00:25:06,004
He... he would get an erection
427
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440
at the sound
of the camera motor.
428
00:25:11,812 --> 00:25:13,279
That explains a lot.
429
00:25:15,349 --> 00:25:18,284
You know, I... I, uh,
I never had a problem
430
00:25:18,919 --> 00:25:21,114
um, getting an erection.
431
00:25:21,421 --> 00:25:26,381
Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah,
Oh, yeah#
432
00:25:26,827 --> 00:25:29,318
Linda had the hots
for Harry Reems.
433
00:25:29,396 --> 00:25:31,864
And the morning
we were gonna do
434
00:25:31,932 --> 00:25:34,230
the deep throat scene,
435
00:25:34,401 --> 00:25:37,097
she came to me
and she was very upset,
436
00:25:37,237 --> 00:25:38,261
and she says,
437
00:25:38,372 --> 00:25:41,398
"Chuck is... is... is so jealous
of Harry Reems
438
00:25:41,775 --> 00:25:44,107
that I don't think
I can do a good job. "
439
00:25:44,177 --> 00:25:46,611
Chuck was a member
of our crew.
440
00:25:47,147 --> 00:25:49,012
Production manager
sent him to...
441
00:25:49,082 --> 00:25:51,710
Uh, we said
we're running out of film.
442
00:25:52,019 --> 00:25:54,078
So he went to Miami
to buy film
443
00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:55,746
when we shot the scene,
444
00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:59,883
Linda was completely relaxed,
and she did a marvelous job.
445
00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:24,509
Uh, when I saw her do that,
yes, it is kind of amazing.
446
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,514
Kind of amazing.
It really is.
447
00:26:28,422 --> 00:26:30,982
Surprised?
I was flabbergasted.
448
00:26:31,058 --> 00:26:32,355
I had no idea.
449
00:26:39,099 --> 00:26:41,624
This was the moment
that heterosexual film
450
00:26:41,702 --> 00:26:44,068
became interested in blowjobs.
451
00:26:44,171 --> 00:26:46,605
I mean, it's not that
fellatio didn't exist.
452
00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:49,665
Certainly, you see
fellatio in stag films.
453
00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:54,176
Um, but you don't
get this fellatio
454
00:26:54,247 --> 00:26:56,044
as figured as
455
00:26:56,116 --> 00:26:58,482
the be-all and end-all,
456
00:26:58,552 --> 00:27:00,543
as the absolute pleasure.
457
00:27:00,621 --> 00:27:02,452
The thing that
you have to remember
458
00:27:02,522 --> 00:27:04,456
about fellatio is,
459
00:27:04,524 --> 00:27:07,425
historically, it had
been considered illegal
460
00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:10,054
and referred to
as the abominable,
461
00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:12,223
detestable crimes
against nature.
462
00:27:12,299 --> 00:27:14,494
Deep throat was not a term
463
00:27:14,568 --> 00:27:18,026
that my girlfriends and I
really knew anything about.
464
00:27:18,105 --> 00:27:21,472
Most of us had never
even heard of oral sex
or how to perform it.
465
00:27:21,541 --> 00:27:23,065
And people
who wouldn't have dreamed
466
00:27:23,176 --> 00:27:25,371
of going near
that sort of matter
467
00:27:25,445 --> 00:27:27,743
in the '40s and '50s,
and certainly in the '30s,
468
00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:30,374
because that was dirty,
that was low sex,
that was dreadful,
469
00:27:30,450 --> 00:27:32,782
began to see it
as an enrichment.
470
00:27:32,853 --> 00:27:35,219
And I'll just mention
that ejaculate,
471
00:27:35,389 --> 00:27:37,823
I've always known,
was good for the complexion.
472
00:27:37,891 --> 00:27:41,190
It's full of babies,
its... it's full of protein,
473
00:27:41,261 --> 00:27:43,695
it's full of, uh, plasma.
474
00:27:43,764 --> 00:27:46,756
And to rub it
all over your face
and neck and chest,
475
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,892
a lot of women know that
that's a good thing to do,
476
00:27:48,969 --> 00:27:50,960
not for him but for you.
477
00:27:54,141 --> 00:27:56,871
Gerry returned to New York
to edit his film.
478
00:27:56,943 --> 00:27:58,877
But there was still
one thing he needed.
479
00:27:58,979 --> 00:28:02,676
A mind-blowing
cinematic female orgasm:
480
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,416
Proof of the success
of Linda's quest
481
00:28:05,485 --> 00:28:07,214
for sexual satisfaction.
482
00:28:12,259 --> 00:28:14,921
People didn't
understand that women,
483
00:28:15,162 --> 00:28:17,596
uh, could have as much...
484
00:28:18,365 --> 00:28:20,356
feel as much pleasure
as men did.
485
00:28:20,434 --> 00:28:22,994
Somehow, nobody ever
acknowledged
486
00:28:23,103 --> 00:28:25,333
there was such a thing
as an orgasm for a woman.
487
00:28:25,439 --> 00:28:27,373
That was all male stuff.
488
00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:33,137
It is harder to show
female pleasure.
489
00:28:33,213 --> 00:28:35,306
It's harder to show
female pleasure,
490
00:28:35,382 --> 00:28:38,374
and to believe
that it's actually happening.
491
00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:41,149
That's why I wanted
to show it.
492
00:28:42,656 --> 00:28:45,090
I went to the film archives
493
00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,352
in... in Washington
494
00:28:46,426 --> 00:28:48,951
and got footage of a rocket
495
00:28:49,463 --> 00:28:52,523
and then did
subliminal cutting
with... with the rocket
496
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,499
and... and Linda,
back and forth.
497
00:28:57,571 --> 00:29:00,540
This is a male fantasy
that says:
498
00:29:00,974 --> 00:29:02,908
"I like to have
my cock sucked.
499
00:29:02,976 --> 00:29:06,935
I really get off on it,
therefore she must, too."
500
00:29:12,552 --> 00:29:14,452
I think that was
a hell of a shot.
501
00:29:18,625 --> 00:29:21,423
Look, men want to believe
502
00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:23,588
that the clitoris
is in a woman's throat.
503
00:29:23,663 --> 00:29:26,496
Because if they believe
that the clitoris
is in a woman's throat,
504
00:29:26,566 --> 00:29:28,625
then they can believe
that by thrusting
505
00:29:28,702 --> 00:29:30,636
their penis
into a woman's mouth,
506
00:29:30,737 --> 00:29:33,262
she gets as much pleasure
as they do.
507
00:29:33,373 --> 00:29:35,841
Guess what? It's not true.
508
00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:39,403
Uh, you know,
l... I guess, uh,
509
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,143
Deep Throat opened up
a... a, uh, a can of worms.
510
00:29:47,687 --> 00:29:51,783
Get down, get down,
get down, get down
511
00:29:52,793 --> 00:29:54,886
When hardcore pornography
is permitted
512
00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:56,519
to corrupt the minds
of children,
513
00:29:56,596 --> 00:29:59,497
then the time has come
for new moral leadership
514
00:29:59,566 --> 00:30:01,295
to make itself felt
in America.
515
00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:07,572
Before Deep Throat
was even shot,
516
00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:11,077
politics and pornography
were on a collision course.
517
00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:15,505
In 1968,
the government launched
a scientific commission
518
00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:19,382
to determine if pornography
really was harmful.
519
00:30:19,486 --> 00:30:21,078
Jungle Boogie
520
00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:23,987
Jungle Boogie,
Get it on
521
00:30:27,294 --> 00:30:28,727
Get it on#
522
00:30:28,795 --> 00:30:31,662
Well, today, the final results
were published.
523
00:30:31,731 --> 00:30:33,858
The presidential commission
recommended doing away
524
00:30:33,934 --> 00:30:36,129
with most of the laws
that cover pornography,
525
00:30:36,203 --> 00:30:38,603
because they don't
seem to be doing much good,
526
00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:42,368
and because pornography
doesn't seem to do much harm
to the adult mind.
527
00:30:43,577 --> 00:30:47,013
For one brief shining moment,
it did look like
528
00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:49,141
society was going to become
529
00:30:49,216 --> 00:30:52,413
a little more adult
about their sexuality.
530
00:30:53,954 --> 00:30:56,013
But committee member
Charles Keating,
531
00:30:56,089 --> 00:30:57,716
appointed by President Nixon,
532
00:30:57,791 --> 00:30:59,486
fought to dismiss
the findings.
533
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,255
Obscenity does indeed effect.
534
00:31:02,329 --> 00:31:05,423
The effect it has
is detrimental to society.
535
00:31:05,765 --> 00:31:09,394
Charles Keating was
a notorious censorship bug.
536
00:31:09,469 --> 00:31:12,233
Later on, of course,
we discovered he was
a good deal more.
537
00:31:12,339 --> 00:31:15,775
He was a swindler
and went to prison.
538
00:31:15,842 --> 00:31:19,073
The president said today,
"So long as I am
in the White House,
539
00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:21,340
"there will be no relaxation
of the national effort
540
00:31:21,414 --> 00:31:23,644
to control
and eliminate smut. "
541
00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:25,751
Then Nixon persuaded
the Senate
542
00:31:25,819 --> 00:31:29,016
to reject the report,
suppressing its findings.
543
00:31:29,456 --> 00:31:30,980
Everybody forgot about
544
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:34,026
the President's commission
on pornography,
545
00:31:34,094 --> 00:31:35,789
because they... they
didn't come out
546
00:31:35,862 --> 00:31:38,092
with the answer
they were looking for.
547
00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:41,531
Instead, Nixon got reelected,
548
00:31:41,601 --> 00:31:44,229
after being declared
politically dead,
549
00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:46,805
and the forces of repression
came in,
550
00:31:46,907 --> 00:31:49,967
in a huge, huge way.
551
00:31:51,144 --> 00:31:53,738
He knew all the buttons
to press.
552
00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:54,780
Sodomy...
553
00:31:58,485 --> 00:32:01,613
I mean, everybody starts
to vibrate like a gong.
554
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:09,991
We lie about human sexuality,
because we're taught
to lie about everything.
555
00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:13,363
When you have a nation
that totally lies,
556
00:32:13,633 --> 00:32:15,260
then you have
no reality.
557
00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,338
The message was clear:
558
00:32:20,407 --> 00:32:22,204
Cleaning up porn
was good politics.
559
00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:25,073
And what better place to start
than Times Square,
560
00:32:25,145 --> 00:32:27,113
the nation's capital of sleaze
561
00:32:27,247 --> 00:32:29,238
and the site
of Deep Throat's premiere
562
00:32:29,316 --> 00:32:31,944
in June 1972.
563
00:32:40,593 --> 00:32:42,686
A good many
of the so-called perverts
564
00:32:42,762 --> 00:32:44,320
are attracted to 42nd Street
565
00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:45,864
and we've had complaints.
566
00:32:46,967 --> 00:32:48,730
Superfly#
567
00:32:53,907 --> 00:32:57,365
Suddenly, I see a movie
that knocks my socks off.
568
00:32:57,477 --> 00:32:58,842
And here's
the wonderful thing:
569
00:32:58,912 --> 00:33:01,642
This film, Deep Throat,
is funny.
570
00:33:02,282 --> 00:33:05,979
And Linda's a wonderful,
wonderful cocksucker.
571
00:33:06,686 --> 00:33:09,086
God, I wish my wives
could suck dick like that.
572
00:33:10,123 --> 00:33:12,455
And I give it 100 points
on the Peter-Meter.
573
00:33:12,525 --> 00:33:15,221
"Peter" means
how many hard-ons do I get.
574
00:33:15,362 --> 00:33:18,024
Now it would take
5,000 Viagra
575
00:33:18,098 --> 00:33:19,190
to get me hard,
576
00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:23,167
but then I'm virile and young
and I get many hard-ons.
577
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:27,028
New Yorkers greet it
with the same
enthusiasm as I did.
578
00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:29,073
It was a joy.
579
00:33:29,142 --> 00:33:31,872
As we say in Israel,
it was a mitzvah.
580
00:33:34,047 --> 00:33:36,641
I have the privilege
of announcing
581
00:33:36,716 --> 00:33:39,844
the formation of
the Times Square
Development Council.
582
00:33:40,887 --> 00:33:42,878
Deep Throat
was the perfect target
583
00:33:42,956 --> 00:33:45,481
for New York's campaign
to clean up porn
584
00:33:45,558 --> 00:33:47,526
and the police moved in.
585
00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:55,525
I first became aware
of Deep Throat
586
00:33:55,602 --> 00:33:58,036
when it was, uh,
it was advertised
in the papers.
587
00:33:59,739 --> 00:34:02,299
It was the talk of the office,
you know, "Look at this."
588
00:34:05,245 --> 00:34:07,008
Being in the industry,
so to speak,
589
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,547
we all ran out to see it.
590
00:34:09,949 --> 00:34:11,541
It was stunning.
591
00:34:13,053 --> 00:34:16,545
The cinematography,
for a porno movie,
was very good.
592
00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:17,681
The movie was funny.
593
00:34:17,757 --> 00:34:20,851
It had the kind of lines
in it, uh, that were amusing.
594
00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:24,625
Mind if I smoke
while you're eating?
595
00:34:24,697 --> 00:34:26,255
No, not at all.
596
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:32,504
It was definitely
a change of pace,
597
00:34:32,572 --> 00:34:34,062
definitely
a change of pace.
598
00:34:36,376 --> 00:34:39,345
We knew that this was, uh,
this was something different.
599
00:34:39,412 --> 00:34:44,145
Love, love is strange#
600
00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,686
I think they picked
on Deep Throat
601
00:34:47,754 --> 00:34:50,188
because it was
the highest profile.
602
00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:53,555
If they could, uh,
successfully prosecute
Deep Throat,
603
00:34:53,626 --> 00:34:55,526
uh, then they felt that
604
00:34:55,595 --> 00:34:57,426
the other prosecutions
would be easier.
605
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,735
Not once, not twice,
but three times
606
00:35:03,837 --> 00:35:05,464
the police raided Deep Throat,
607
00:35:05,572 --> 00:35:08,336
staging their final raid
for the cameras.
608
00:35:11,611 --> 00:35:13,203
This was political.
609
00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:16,407
If nobody records the arrest,
610
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:18,577
then nobody will know
611
00:35:18,651 --> 00:35:21,814
that they are doing their job
in fighting sin.
612
00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:25,488
Do you... you consider
what you're running
pornographic, sir?
613
00:35:25,725 --> 00:35:27,192
If it was pornographic,
614
00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,888
they could prosecute
in a diligent, proper manner.
615
00:35:29,963 --> 00:35:33,023
They wouldn't have to
come around in hoards of 50
616
00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:35,358
and take signs
out of windows
617
00:35:35,702 --> 00:35:38,193
and act like
the Gestapo of old.
618
00:35:39,072 --> 00:35:44,009
This theater that had not done
$5,000 a week in 20 years,
619
00:35:45,311 --> 00:35:48,872
was running
virtually 20 hours a day.
620
00:35:49,616 --> 00:35:51,049
It never stopped running.
621
00:35:51,484 --> 00:35:53,509
The owners really couldn't
afford to shut it down.
622
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:54,951
They didn't want
to shut it down.
623
00:35:55,021 --> 00:35:58,218
And so, uh, there... there was
going to be a trial.
624
00:36:05,465 --> 00:36:08,161
Deep Throat's defense
produced expert witnesses
625
00:36:08,234 --> 00:36:12,193
to argue that the film was
more enlightening
than merely obscene.
626
00:36:24,884 --> 00:36:26,977
But the prosecution countered
627
00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:30,216
that this sexual satisfaction
was dangerous to women
628
00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:33,885
because Deep Throat emphasized
the wrong kind of orgasm:
629
00:36:34,394 --> 00:36:36,191
The clitoral orgasm.
630
00:36:37,163 --> 00:36:40,132
I remember that the judge
hadn't heard the term.
631
00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:42,765
And, uh,
so he expressed surprise
632
00:36:42,835 --> 00:36:44,598
and asked the question,
"What's that?"
633
00:36:47,307 --> 00:36:51,368
Here, just outside and above
the vaginal opening
634
00:36:52,078 --> 00:36:54,410
Is the clitoris.
635
00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:12,696
The clitoris.
636
00:37:12,765 --> 00:37:15,199
He should have been
sitting in my classes
637
00:37:15,268 --> 00:37:18,431
because he would have
heard me say loud and clear
638
00:37:18,671 --> 00:37:21,333
that let's get away
from that idea,
639
00:37:21,441 --> 00:37:23,238
which still
some people have,
640
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:26,278
that, uh,
a vaginal orgasm
641
00:37:26,379 --> 00:37:29,246
is, um, more satisfying
for a woman
642
00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:31,510
than a clitoral orgasm.
No such thing.
643
00:37:32,552 --> 00:37:35,715
At that time, a real orgasm
could only happen
644
00:37:35,788 --> 00:37:37,153
if you were with a man
645
00:37:37,223 --> 00:37:39,555
and his penis
was inside of you
646
00:37:39,626 --> 00:37:43,528
and that was total,
utter nonsense, of course.
647
00:37:45,398 --> 00:37:48,458
Sex is not only for penises.
648
00:37:48,534 --> 00:37:51,526
Uh, sex is something
for women.
649
00:37:51,604 --> 00:37:53,299
The clitoris.
650
00:37:53,406 --> 00:37:55,067
This tiny organ,
651
00:37:55,174 --> 00:37:57,768
about the size and shape
of a garden pea,
652
00:37:58,244 --> 00:38:00,974
is the seat
of sexuality in women.
653
00:38:02,148 --> 00:38:05,515
I think the judge
learned a lot during the trial
654
00:38:05,952 --> 00:38:08,887
as I... Look,
l... I certainly did myself.
655
00:38:11,557 --> 00:38:13,752
As the judge retired
to consider his verdict,
656
00:38:13,826 --> 00:38:15,726
ticket sales almost doubled,
657
00:38:15,795 --> 00:38:19,322
prompting a young reporter
from the New York Times
to write an article
658
00:38:19,399 --> 00:38:22,493
that would give the film
mainstream legitimacy.
659
00:38:23,002 --> 00:38:25,061
I remember
writing the article.
660
00:38:25,171 --> 00:38:27,264
Uh, the... the headline
was "Porno chic."
661
00:38:27,373 --> 00:38:29,364
I wrote it on a typewriter.
662
00:38:31,544 --> 00:38:33,739
People look
at the Times as a validator.
663
00:38:33,813 --> 00:38:36,680
And they see,
if... if the Times can
write about Deep Throat,
664
00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:38,478
well, then it must be safe
in some way.
665
00:38:41,254 --> 00:38:43,245
The week the article
hit the stands,
666
00:38:43,323 --> 00:38:45,314
the film's box office soared
667
00:38:45,391 --> 00:38:48,827
as people rushed
to see the film
in record numbers.
668
00:38:51,531 --> 00:38:54,500
Approximately how many people
have seen Deep Throat?
669
00:38:54,567 --> 00:38:57,661
Approximately
1,700 people a day
have been in to see the film.
670
00:38:59,739 --> 00:39:01,707
Are you looking forward
to this movie?
671
00:39:01,808 --> 00:39:02,866
Yes, I am.
672
00:39:02,975 --> 00:39:06,069
People from Central Park West
and Fifth Avenue
and Park Avenue
673
00:39:06,145 --> 00:39:08,579
wanted to go down and see it
and go slumming.
674
00:39:09,682 --> 00:39:12,981
There was a private showing.
Before I knew what happened,
675
00:39:13,052 --> 00:39:16,021
there was, like,
group sex happening,
left, right, and center.
676
00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:24,557
Since this is supposed to be
it of its genre,
677
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:27,326
and since it's had this piece
in the New York Times,
678
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,527
I might as well see it
if it's going.
679
00:39:31,304 --> 00:39:33,067
What are you expecting to see?
680
00:39:33,172 --> 00:39:34,264
Well, uh,
681
00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:37,605
you might close me down if I
said what I was going to say.
682
00:39:38,945 --> 00:39:42,904
It took porn out of the realm
of the forbidden.
683
00:39:42,982 --> 00:39:44,950
Why, there's nothing wrong
with a normal man
684
00:39:45,017 --> 00:39:46,780
going to
a pornographic movie.
685
00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:49,083
Normal, all right,
but why were you there?
686
00:39:49,155 --> 00:39:50,782
You would see
movie stars there.
687
00:39:50,857 --> 00:39:52,449
You would see
society people there.
688
00:39:55,027 --> 00:39:58,326
I went to see Deep Throat
because I'm fond
of animal pictures.
689
00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:02,196
I thought it was
about giraffes.
690
00:40:05,605 --> 00:40:08,369
90 percent
of the people there
are asthmatics.
691
00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:09,873
What do you mean,
asthmatics?
692
00:40:09,942 --> 00:40:11,136
'Cause all I could hear
was...
693
00:40:13,379 --> 00:40:14,846
People weren't jerking off
694
00:40:15,548 --> 00:40:18,813
when, you know, I don't know
who's sitting next
to Angela Lansbury.
695
00:40:18,885 --> 00:40:20,910
Oh, I'm just picking her out,
but... but basically,
696
00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,921
because she'd just
put a damper on things.
697
00:40:22,989 --> 00:40:25,116
What did you say the name of
that movie was?
698
00:40:25,191 --> 00:40:26,419
Uh, Deep Threat.
699
00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:28,892
You'd better hurry up
before you miss the opening
700
00:40:28,961 --> 00:40:30,690
'cause you don't
wanna miss the opening.
701
00:40:30,763 --> 00:40:32,321
In the opening, Linda...
702
00:40:37,703 --> 00:40:39,398
Deep Throat was so successful
703
00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:41,598
that it turned Linda Lovelace
from an unknown
704
00:40:41,707 --> 00:40:45,268
into a celebrity
and poster-child
for the new porn chic.
705
00:40:49,348 --> 00:40:51,748
I made $1,200
for Deep Throat.
706
00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:53,377
And that's all?
707
00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:54,852
Yeah.
708
00:40:54,921 --> 00:40:55,979
What about...
709
00:40:56,055 --> 00:40:59,547
I'm, you know, now I'm known,
so it's okay.
710
00:41:03,296 --> 00:41:05,230
It was about 11:00 at night
711
00:41:05,298 --> 00:41:07,664
and we were
watching television.
712
00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:11,992
And we saw this
theater and it said,
713
00:41:12,772 --> 00:41:15,969
you know, Linda Lovelace,
Deep Throat
or whatever it was.
714
00:41:16,342 --> 00:41:19,869
And, uh, I said,
"Oh, disgusting.
715
00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,778
Absolutely disgusting."
716
00:41:23,015 --> 00:41:24,744
A girlfriend of mine
called and said,
717
00:41:24,817 --> 00:41:26,842
"Pick up Playboy Magazine.
718
00:41:26,919 --> 00:41:29,854
If that's not Linda,
I'll eat the magazine."
719
00:41:30,323 --> 00:41:32,791
So I stopped, I picked it up,
720
00:41:32,859 --> 00:41:34,554
'cause it wasn't allowed
in my house.
721
00:41:38,898 --> 00:41:41,025
And I opened it up
and I read it
722
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,000
and I said, "Oh, my God."
723
00:41:48,074 --> 00:41:50,770
And I knew then, it was...
it was our Linda.
724
00:41:56,949 --> 00:41:59,918
That was difficult for me,
to see the movie.
725
00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:07,255
When we got home,
I threw myself across the bed
and started bawling.
726
00:42:07,326 --> 00:42:09,226
I was crying like, I'd, um,
727
00:42:09,295 --> 00:42:11,923
like I just found out
someone I loved had died.
728
00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:17,191
And, uh,
729
00:42:18,404 --> 00:42:20,167
and it wasn't, um...
730
00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:24,375
It wasn't just, uh, you know,
731
00:42:24,443 --> 00:42:28,243
a sleazy little film on a...
on a small screen
732
00:42:28,314 --> 00:42:30,942
with a bunch of guys
in trench coats there.
733
00:42:31,017 --> 00:42:35,078
I mean, there were,
society was there.
734
00:42:37,423 --> 00:42:40,756
I didn't know how
Linda was going to be
able to deal with that.
735
00:42:43,329 --> 00:42:47,231
The next time I spoke to her,
she said, "I'm sorry,
736
00:42:47,767 --> 00:42:49,894
"I didn't want you to know,
737
00:42:50,036 --> 00:42:52,266
'cause I knew you'd be upset
or you'd be angry."
738
00:42:52,371 --> 00:42:55,966
I said, "I'm not angry
'cause I don't know
who Linda Lovelace is.
739
00:42:56,075 --> 00:42:57,804
I only know who you are."
740
00:43:06,052 --> 00:43:08,111
The pornographic film
Deep Throat
741
00:43:08,187 --> 00:43:09,882
has become
one of the most popular
742
00:43:09,956 --> 00:43:12,322
and profitable blue movies
of all time.
743
00:43:12,391 --> 00:43:15,690
Today, a Manhattan
criminal court judge
ruled the film obscene,
744
00:43:15,761 --> 00:43:18,491
and ordered it removed
from theaters
in New York City.
745
00:43:25,338 --> 00:43:28,865
A Sodom and Gomorrah
gone wild before the fire.
746
00:43:29,408 --> 00:43:32,468
He believed he was writing
for posterity.
747
00:43:34,113 --> 00:43:36,513
Now you and I know,
in retrospect,
748
00:43:36,816 --> 00:43:39,114
that he accomplished
absolutely nothing.
749
00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:47,218
I readily perform
the operation
750
00:43:47,293 --> 00:43:50,126
by finding
the defendant guilty
as charged.
751
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,629
I still think
what the Worid Theatre did
on its marquee
752
00:43:58,738 --> 00:44:01,002
was better than what he wrote
in his opinion.
753
00:44:01,107 --> 00:44:03,268
"Throat cut, worid mourns."
754
00:44:03,809 --> 00:44:05,743
It's a picture
that'll never die.
755
00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:10,876
I mean, we'll all die,
but Deep Throat won't die.
756
00:44:14,286 --> 00:44:16,413
Shutting Deep Throat down
in New York
757
00:44:16,489 --> 00:44:19,390
only spurred
audiences' interest
across the country.
758
00:44:19,592 --> 00:44:23,050
Wherever it opened,
authorities scrambled
to shut it down.
759
00:44:23,162 --> 00:44:26,325
This trash that's being shown
on our movie screens
760
00:44:26,399 --> 00:44:27,525
across the country.
761
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,501
There isn't any question
in my mind that it's obscene.
762
00:44:33,439 --> 00:44:35,839
By the mid '70s, Deep Throat
had been tried
763
00:44:35,908 --> 00:44:37,375
in more than 32 cities...
764
00:44:39,311 --> 00:44:42,280
... and was ultimately banned
in 23 states.
765
00:44:42,348 --> 00:44:44,748
Violation of the law.
It's a simple thing.
766
00:44:47,186 --> 00:44:49,086
It's obscene as hell to me.
767
00:44:55,127 --> 00:44:56,116
Hmm.
768
00:44:57,797 --> 00:44:59,992
Ordered to stop the spread
of Deep Throat,
769
00:45:00,066 --> 00:45:01,829
the FBI stepped in.
770
00:45:02,001 --> 00:45:04,902
They began with the arrest
of Gerry Damiano.
771
00:45:06,806 --> 00:45:09,138
The first question
the prosecutor asked me:
772
00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:10,641
Did I know what...
773
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:13,372
what affiliation
m- my partners had?
774
00:45:15,548 --> 00:45:18,415
And I said as far as I know,
he's a Roman Catholic.
775
00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:25,523
All of a sudden,
I'm... I'm part of the mob.
776
00:45:27,626 --> 00:45:30,151
No. I was...
I was never a mob.
777
00:45:31,497 --> 00:45:33,431
There were originally
three partners
778
00:45:33,499 --> 00:45:35,228
who made the movie.
779
00:45:36,368 --> 00:45:39,599
His two partners came to him,
Damiano told me,
780
00:45:39,705 --> 00:45:41,570
and told him
they were buying him out.
781
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,599
And I said to him
that didn't sound
like a very good, uh, deal,
782
00:45:45,711 --> 00:45:47,804
uh, when you're
a one-third partner
of a project
783
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,747
that is just, you know,
bringing in
bucket-loads of money
784
00:45:50,816 --> 00:45:52,579
and you're suddenly
cut out of the deal.
785
00:45:52,651 --> 00:45:53,982
Uh, why didn't he object?
786
00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:56,613
And he rolled his eyes
and he wouldn't say anymore.
787
00:45:56,722 --> 00:45:59,987
And the... the only thing
he told me was he didn't want
his legs broken.
788
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,786
No, it was easier for me
to... to say:
789
00:46:05,631 --> 00:46:08,794
"L... I don't,
I don't want to have
anything to do with it."
790
00:46:08,868 --> 00:46:11,302
It was easier.
It was a lot easier.
791
00:46:12,438 --> 00:46:15,236
It was, kind of a...
it was, kind of a...
792
00:46:15,307 --> 00:46:17,275
a thing I could not
have won.
793
00:46:21,881 --> 00:46:24,714
That's about as far as
I could go with it.
794
00:46:27,319 --> 00:46:28,877
Damiano wasn't alone.
795
00:46:28,954 --> 00:46:31,514
Across the country,
theater owners discovered
796
00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:33,251
exhibiting Deep Throat
also meant
797
00:46:33,325 --> 00:46:35,054
running with the mob.
798
00:46:37,863 --> 00:46:40,525
One day,
I pick up the New York Times,
799
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,269
and in it,
it says it is very chic
800
00:46:45,304 --> 00:46:46,794
to see Deep Throat.
801
00:46:46,906 --> 00:46:49,033
So that gave me an idea
802
00:46:49,675 --> 00:46:52,940
to see if I can get
the picture for Florida.
803
00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:55,713
Luckily,
I knew one of the men
804
00:46:55,781 --> 00:46:57,976
that was connected
with the picture.
805
00:46:58,017 --> 00:47:00,417
And I didn't think
it could run in Florida.
806
00:47:00,486 --> 00:47:04,252
And so,
I was given the picture
for a very reasonable amount.
807
00:47:04,924 --> 00:47:09,293
I never would have
dreamt of opening
that picture anywheres
808
00:47:09,628 --> 00:47:11,823
if it wasn't for that article.
809
00:47:11,897 --> 00:47:14,365
If we don't get sued,
it will be a miracle.
810
00:47:14,433 --> 00:47:16,367
Terry, please, Terry.
It's almost over.
811
00:47:16,435 --> 00:47:17,925
I think it's enough.
Cut. Finished.
812
00:47:18,037 --> 00:47:19,265
It's almost over.
It's enough.
813
00:47:19,371 --> 00:47:20,497
It's almost over.
814
00:47:20,606 --> 00:47:22,164
L... I think
it's enough already.
815
00:47:22,274 --> 00:47:24,868
You don't realize
how people pick up
on things.
816
00:47:24,977 --> 00:47:26,535
What are they
picking up on, Terry?
817
00:47:26,645 --> 00:47:28,579
They're picking up on things
in Miami Beach.
818
00:47:28,647 --> 00:47:30,808
You... you just said
they do bad things.
819
00:47:30,883 --> 00:47:32,373
They could
call you up on this.
820
00:47:32,451 --> 00:47:34,146
Come on, Artie,
don't be stupid.
821
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:35,585
You're a grown man.
822
00:47:35,654 --> 00:47:36,780
Cut.
823
00:47:36,856 --> 00:47:38,050
Terry.
824
00:47:40,125 --> 00:47:43,424
Making a living
the old, hard way
825
00:47:43,495 --> 00:47:47,022
Taking and giving
my day by day
826
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:52,535
I dig the snow and rain
and bright sunshine
827
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,602
My name is Bill Kelly.
828
00:47:55,708 --> 00:47:57,198
Draggin' the line#
829
00:47:57,309 --> 00:47:59,800
The reason there were
so many more
830
00:47:59,879 --> 00:48:01,346
obscenity cases
831
00:48:01,413 --> 00:48:03,574
after 1972
832
00:48:03,649 --> 00:48:06,550
was because I went out
and looked for 'em.
833
00:48:06,886 --> 00:48:09,252
I knew it was a gamble
834
00:48:10,122 --> 00:48:13,853
because of New York
having problems with the city,
835
00:48:13,926 --> 00:48:15,257
that it was on trial.
836
00:48:16,228 --> 00:48:18,719
I opened the picture
and the next thing I knew
837
00:48:18,797 --> 00:48:20,287
we had lines
around the corner.
838
00:48:20,432 --> 00:48:21,729
There must have been,
839
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,429
I'm guessing 100 or 150 people
in line when they opened.
840
00:48:25,704 --> 00:48:29,640
Every fucking FBI agent
in the country
was sitting in the audience.
841
00:48:29,708 --> 00:48:32,233
Kelly was there
and everything else.
842
00:48:33,112 --> 00:48:34,943
You walked into the theater.
843
00:48:35,014 --> 00:48:36,845
There's just a,
sort of a bent-nosed,
844
00:48:36,916 --> 00:48:39,612
middle-aged guy
with a very rough voice.
845
00:48:39,685 --> 00:48:41,175
He says, "$5."
846
00:48:41,854 --> 00:48:44,152
So I gave him $5 and said:
"Where is the ticket?"
847
00:48:44,223 --> 00:48:45,986
He said,
"No tickets, just go on in."
848
00:48:46,091 --> 00:48:47,854
The movie started
849
00:48:48,127 --> 00:48:51,619
and about 50 of them
got up and said:
850
00:48:51,697 --> 00:48:54,063
"It's a sex picture,
get me out! Get me out!
851
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:56,067
It's a sex picture,
I can't stand it."
852
00:48:56,335 --> 00:48:58,326
Not only was it a violation
853
00:48:58,437 --> 00:49:00,462
of the obscenity law
of the United States,
854
00:49:00,572 --> 00:49:03,632
it was also
a highly organized
crime enterprise.
855
00:49:06,245 --> 00:49:07,610
I didn't know
856
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,308
who the Peraino gang was
at that time.
857
00:49:10,382 --> 00:49:12,907
But I soon found out
when I started investigating
858
00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:15,818
that they were heavyweights
out of New York.
859
00:49:15,888 --> 00:49:18,448
They were part of
the Colombo family operation
860
00:49:18,524 --> 00:49:21,220
who had moved
to Fort Lauderdale area.
861
00:49:23,295 --> 00:49:26,890
I haven't seen them
since I... I left.
862
00:49:31,770 --> 00:49:35,103
And I want to make sure
l... I don't get a phone call
863
00:49:35,174 --> 00:49:37,904
or get a knock on the door
that they want to talk to me.
864
00:49:37,977 --> 00:49:40,969
Because I've been
away from them for 30 years.
865
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:44,248
And I... I... I'd like it
to be that way.
866
00:49:44,316 --> 00:49:47,251
This is... this is shit
as far as I'm concerned.
867
00:49:47,319 --> 00:49:50,049
Excuse my language
but I can't stand it.
868
00:49:50,122 --> 00:49:53,023
He can tell you things,
your hair would
stand up on your heads.
869
00:49:53,092 --> 00:49:55,356
I didn't mention
any of those things,
Terry.
870
00:49:55,427 --> 00:49:57,054
What?
I didn't mention any of them.
871
00:49:57,129 --> 00:49:58,391
I don't... I don't
want you to.
872
00:49:58,464 --> 00:49:59,658
I didn't.
873
00:49:59,732 --> 00:50:01,597
We haven't heard
in 32 years.
874
00:50:01,667 --> 00:50:03,032
Thank God.
875
00:50:03,102 --> 00:50:04,160
So, how do you know?
876
00:50:04,269 --> 00:50:06,567
I don't know
if they're living.
877
00:50:07,673 --> 00:50:09,698
They could be dead,
Terry.
878
00:50:13,645 --> 00:50:15,442
In its second year of release,
879
00:50:15,514 --> 00:50:18,415
Deep Throat was still
number 11 on the charts.
880
00:50:18,484 --> 00:50:20,213
It's a dirty movie.
881
00:50:20,386 --> 00:50:24,152
Look, try to look at it
as a satire of
contemporary sexual mores
882
00:50:24,223 --> 00:50:26,191
with lots of
redeeming social values.
883
00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:30,193
Porn chic was all the rage.
884
00:50:30,262 --> 00:50:32,856
Films like Damiano's
The Devil in Miss Jones
885
00:50:32,931 --> 00:50:34,398
and Behind the Green Door
886
00:50:34,466 --> 00:50:38,300
followed on the heels
of Deep Throat's
unprecedented success,
887
00:50:38,570 --> 00:50:41,698
giving Hollywood films
a run for their money.
888
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,241
The studios were in shambles
in the early '70s.
889
00:50:45,310 --> 00:50:47,642
There's this movie out there,
everyone's going to see it.
890
00:50:47,713 --> 00:50:50,705
How does that affect you
and the pictures
you should be making?
891
00:50:51,316 --> 00:50:53,841
I've been the first one
to go down the path.
892
00:50:53,919 --> 00:50:56,251
I'd like to see, uh,
legitimate films
893
00:50:56,321 --> 00:50:59,984
and so-called
pornographic films
merge together.
894
00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:02,687
I think the two industries
have got to merge together.
895
00:51:02,895 --> 00:51:04,385
Thank you for making me
896
00:51:04,463 --> 00:51:07,193
the first woman president
to go down in history.
897
00:51:08,267 --> 00:51:11,532
They were shooting porn films
on the lot at Paramount.
898
00:51:11,637 --> 00:51:12,934
This is a little known fact.
899
00:51:13,038 --> 00:51:16,667
So Paramount became sort of
confiscated by
the porn industry.
900
00:51:16,775 --> 00:51:18,640
Do you see yourself
as a pioneer?
901
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:19,734
No.
902
00:51:19,845 --> 00:51:21,813
If it's left alone,
within a year,
903
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,144
sex will just blend itself
into film.
904
00:51:24,216 --> 00:51:25,240
It's inevitable.
905
00:51:25,317 --> 00:51:28,616
The only thing
that's uncertain
is... is the time it will take.
906
00:51:29,388 --> 00:51:32,255
But the merger of hardcore
and movies never happened.
907
00:51:32,324 --> 00:51:36,021
Instead, the Supreme Court,
packed with
4 Nixon appointees,
908
00:51:36,095 --> 00:51:38,723
made a radical change
to the obscenity law
909
00:51:38,797 --> 00:51:40,992
in June 1973.
910
00:51:43,302 --> 00:51:46,203
Yesterday, the Supreme Court
authorized wider restrictions
911
00:51:46,305 --> 00:51:48,398
on the exhibition
and sale of obscenity.
912
00:51:49,775 --> 00:51:51,800
The recent Supreme Court
decision
913
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:55,471
gave local officials the right
to decide for themselves
what is pornographic
914
00:51:55,547 --> 00:51:58,846
without having to be guided
by a national standard.
915
00:52:02,354 --> 00:52:03,878
Here in New York City today,
916
00:52:03,956 --> 00:52:07,050
vice squad police
began cracking down
on pornography.
917
00:52:12,698 --> 00:52:15,599
Linda, as you may know,
the Supreme Court recently,
918
00:52:15,667 --> 00:52:18,795
uh, handed down
a, uh,
decision on pornography.
919
00:52:19,471 --> 00:52:22,304
I don't think
anybody should
regulate anything.
920
00:52:22,374 --> 00:52:23,466
I think it should be, uh,
921
00:52:23,575 --> 00:52:27,011
I don't believe in censorship.
I don't believe in
anything that they are doing.
922
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,047
But how far can you extend
individual rights
923
00:52:29,114 --> 00:52:31,844
before you hit, uh,
the state of anarchy?
924
00:52:31,917 --> 00:52:33,714
Uh, I really... I don't know.
925
00:52:33,785 --> 00:52:35,275
Have you ever
thought about that?
926
00:52:35,354 --> 00:52:37,982
No. I don't know what's
the state of ana-anarchy.
927
00:52:38,056 --> 00:52:41,321
Well, it's...
That's when everyone does
precisely what he pleases
928
00:52:41,393 --> 00:52:43,657
and, uh,
society has no rules.
929
00:52:43,729 --> 00:52:46,391
At that point,
you've reached anarchy.
930
00:52:46,632 --> 00:52:48,691
Uh, I don't know
about that,
to be honest with you.
931
00:52:48,767 --> 00:52:50,234
I just don't believe
in censorship.
932
00:52:50,302 --> 00:52:52,133
I don't...
That's taking away
your freedom.
933
00:52:52,237 --> 00:52:53,966
That's taking away
your individual right
934
00:52:54,072 --> 00:52:55,596
to make up your own mind
for things.
935
00:52:55,707 --> 00:52:58,403
The last person
that started censorship
was Adolf Hitler.
936
00:52:58,477 --> 00:53:00,240
And look
what happened there.
937
00:53:03,849 --> 00:53:05,840
Meanwhile,
the FBI was closing in
938
00:53:05,918 --> 00:53:08,045
on Deep Throat
and its distribution.
939
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,988
They pinpointed
the Perainos' headquarters
in Fort Lauderdale
940
00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:14,149
and placed them
under surveillance.
941
00:53:18,897 --> 00:53:21,457
One day,
I get a telephone call
942
00:53:21,533 --> 00:53:23,364
from a confidential source
943
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:26,697
who will remain anonymous.
944
00:53:29,074 --> 00:53:30,302
And he says to me, uh:
945
00:53:30,409 --> 00:53:34,470
"We've got so much cash
that we are having trouble
946
00:53:34,846 --> 00:53:37,337
"physically moving about
the office
947
00:53:37,516 --> 00:53:40,383
because the money
is gettin' in the way. "
948
00:53:40,552 --> 00:53:42,884
I said, "How much you got?"
He said, "I don't know.
949
00:53:42,955 --> 00:53:45,185
We don't even
count it anymore."
950
00:53:45,791 --> 00:53:48,225
I said, "You don't count it?"
He said, "No."
951
00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:50,557
I said, "What do you do?"
He said, "We weigh it."
952
00:53:52,364 --> 00:53:53,831
To get around the law
953
00:53:53,899 --> 00:53:56,094
the mob set up
its own distribution system
954
00:53:56,168 --> 00:53:57,658
of checkers and sweepers
955
00:53:57,736 --> 00:54:00,000
who traveled the country
delivering prints
956
00:54:00,105 --> 00:54:02,164
and collecting the money
from theaters.
957
00:54:02,274 --> 00:54:05,903
At a certain time every day,
the checker or the sweeper
958
00:54:05,978 --> 00:54:09,243
would go to the manager
of the particular theater,
959
00:54:09,514 --> 00:54:13,314
and he would say,
"Our take is 50 percent.
960
00:54:13,385 --> 00:54:16,013
"And we want it now, in cash.
961
00:54:16,455 --> 00:54:18,855
Give us the money now,
or else."
962
00:54:20,959 --> 00:54:23,052
I was on my way
down to Nashville.
963
00:54:23,128 --> 00:54:24,595
And the reason
I went to Nashville
964
00:54:24,663 --> 00:54:26,756
was I wanted to buy
these Goo Goo candy bars.
965
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:29,429
Goo Goo, chew it,
taste it, sweet milk
966
00:54:29,501 --> 00:54:31,264
I was gonna buy
a bunch of them
967
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:32,632
and just, you know,
market them
968
00:54:32,738 --> 00:54:34,035
and see if
I could get it going.
969
00:54:34,139 --> 00:54:36,164
Well, on Saturday night,
I decided I'd just go out.
970
00:54:36,275 --> 00:54:38,243
And I met a couple of guys
from New Jersey.
971
00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:39,800
They were a couple of
Italian guys.
972
00:54:39,911 --> 00:54:40,900
I happen to be a Greek,
973
00:54:41,013 --> 00:54:42,776
so Italians and Greeks
are like cousins.
974
00:54:42,848 --> 00:54:46,579
I gotta have a Goo Goo,
how 'bout you?
Goo Goo#
975
00:54:46,652 --> 00:54:48,517
They wanted me
to go to work for 'em
976
00:54:48,587 --> 00:54:51,522
uh, baby-sitting
Deep Throat.
977
00:54:51,623 --> 00:54:55,115
And they sent me over to
the Lamar Theater in Memphis.
978
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,892
And that's where it all began.
979
00:54:59,298 --> 00:55:02,392
And as people walked in,
I would count 'em in.
980
00:55:02,601 --> 00:55:04,592
Then I would go down
through the theater crowd
981
00:55:04,703 --> 00:55:07,934
and I would count the number
of people in the theater
with a little clicker.
982
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,940
You know,
those little things.
983
00:55:12,277 --> 00:55:15,075
A checker. That's what I was.
984
00:55:16,248 --> 00:55:18,773
L... I was just a
simple checker. I had no power
985
00:55:18,850 --> 00:55:21,148
I had no rank, nothing.
I was just an employee.
986
00:55:23,155 --> 00:55:24,816
Nobody was hurt.
987
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:27,085
And, uh,
the only ones that got hurt
988
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,686
was, uh, one of our checkers
in New Orleans.
989
00:55:30,762 --> 00:55:33,356
Uh, he had $60,000
and he disappeared.
990
00:55:33,432 --> 00:55:36,731
The money disappeared
and they found his body in
the back of a pickup truck.
991
00:55:39,004 --> 00:55:41,905
A theater manager
refused to pay.
992
00:55:43,475 --> 00:55:47,138
And the next thing I know,
I heard
the theater burned down.
993
00:55:47,346 --> 00:55:50,042
I'm not saying
they would do somethin'.
994
00:55:50,115 --> 00:55:52,948
But I did have a Colt.45
with the hammer back
995
00:55:53,018 --> 00:55:54,042
in my belt.
996
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,551
They had people
that... that would do things.
997
00:55:59,424 --> 00:56:02,518
Was it any kind of, uh,
an organized crime?
998
00:56:02,694 --> 00:56:04,525
Well,
is every Italian
999
00:56:04,963 --> 00:56:06,521
A criminal?
1000
00:56:06,598 --> 00:56:09,260
Is every Italian a gangster?
I don't think so.
1001
00:56:09,334 --> 00:56:12,201
You know, some Italians
have actually opened up
Italian restaurants
1002
00:56:12,304 --> 00:56:15,034
And done very well with them.
1003
00:56:17,175 --> 00:56:19,370
I've met
some mafia men in my life.
1004
00:56:19,444 --> 00:56:21,435
They won't threaten you
in any way.
1005
00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:23,946
But if you do
something dishonest,
1006
00:56:24,616 --> 00:56:25,810
most of the times,
1007
00:56:25,884 --> 00:56:28,409
they don't give you
a second chance.
1008
00:56:31,323 --> 00:56:33,655
So why did you walk away
from it yourself?
1009
00:56:33,725 --> 00:56:35,886
Because I was told to.
1010
00:56:37,329 --> 00:56:40,059
Rather, my wife was told
that I should
1011
00:56:41,166 --> 00:56:42,292
leave.
1012
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:48,138
And no money in the worid
is worth
1013
00:56:48,206 --> 00:56:50,504
just worrying about something.
1014
00:56:54,212 --> 00:56:55,543
That's my wife.
1015
00:56:55,614 --> 00:56:56,774
Artie, again?
1016
00:56:56,848 --> 00:56:57,906
Now, Terry.
1017
00:56:57,983 --> 00:56:59,075
Are you enjoying this?
1018
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,279
Damn it.
You're some kind of nut.
1019
00:57:04,222 --> 00:57:07,453
Okay. They're finished,
Terry, all right?
1020
00:57:15,267 --> 00:57:18,828
Finally, after three years
of FBI investigation,
1021
00:57:18,937 --> 00:57:23,374
the government launched one of
the most ambitious
obscenity trials ever mounted.
1022
00:57:23,475 --> 00:57:26,774
Designed to nail Deep Throat
and all pornographic films
1023
00:57:26,845 --> 00:57:28,312
once and for all.
1024
00:57:30,849 --> 00:57:34,148
I think this case was
a case of prosecution
1025
00:57:34,352 --> 00:57:37,253
that was directed,
orchestrated,
1026
00:57:37,823 --> 00:57:39,586
uh, from Washington, D.C.
1027
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,122
All told, 117 people
were charged with conspiracy:
1028
00:57:46,531 --> 00:57:49,159
From the distributor
to the projectionist.
1029
00:57:49,234 --> 00:57:50,724
And one man,
1030
00:57:50,802 --> 00:57:53,862
the government intended to
make an example of.
1031
00:57:54,973 --> 00:57:56,838
The director had immunity.
1032
00:57:56,908 --> 00:57:58,569
The star had immunity,
1033
00:57:58,643 --> 00:58:00,508
but the actor did not.
1034
00:58:07,052 --> 00:58:09,646
The theory was,
if you prosecuted the star
1035
00:58:09,721 --> 00:58:12,417
then nobody would ever
wanna make a film like this.
1036
00:58:12,491 --> 00:58:14,857
And you could drive
the industry out of business.
1037
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,060
Harry Reems was paid $250
to appear in Deep Throat.
1038
00:58:20,499 --> 00:58:22,262
He had no control,
1039
00:58:22,567 --> 00:58:24,831
no say, no input
1040
00:58:25,437 --> 00:58:28,804
with what the final version
of this film was gonna be
1041
00:58:28,874 --> 00:58:31,434
or whether it was gonna be
distributed interstate,
1042
00:58:31,543 --> 00:58:33,738
intrastate, intergalactic.
1043
00:58:33,812 --> 00:58:35,211
It's impressive,
for the first time
1044
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,713
in the history
of the United States
1045
00:58:36,781 --> 00:58:39,113
an artist has ever been
brought to trial
by the government.
1046
00:58:40,785 --> 00:58:42,844
All of the trials
have been prosecuted
1047
00:58:42,921 --> 00:58:45,583
by a young assistant
US attorney
named Larry Parrish,
1048
00:58:45,657 --> 00:58:48,490
a lay Protestant preacher
who has been quoted as saying
1049
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,961
he'd rather get smut off
the streets of Memphis
than dope.
1050
00:58:52,030 --> 00:58:55,397
Larry Parrish is the...
About one of the finest people
1051
00:58:55,467 --> 00:58:57,367
I've ever known
in my entire life.
1052
00:58:58,703 --> 00:58:59,727
Fine guy.
1053
00:58:59,838 --> 00:59:03,103
And on top of that
he's, uh,
he's movie star quality.
1054
00:59:03,174 --> 00:59:05,404
First of all,
he was very tall.
1055
00:59:05,477 --> 00:59:07,445
And I hate tall people.
1056
00:59:08,113 --> 00:59:09,410
Uh...
1057
00:59:09,481 --> 00:59:11,506
But he was also
very arrogant.
1058
00:59:12,017 --> 00:59:14,508
If you're gonna dance,
you need to pay the piper.
1059
00:59:14,586 --> 00:59:16,451
And, uh, I'm the piper.
1060
00:59:16,788 --> 00:59:19,086
You've got to be accountable
under the law.
1061
00:59:19,257 --> 00:59:21,316
It was like
when some people know
1062
00:59:21,393 --> 00:59:24,123
that they have
the answer to everything
1063
00:59:24,262 --> 00:59:27,959
and everybody else
is... is... is... is totally wrong.
1064
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:32,431
It was purely and simply
a matter of law enforcement.
1065
00:59:33,071 --> 00:59:36,199
And I guess if there was
any passion in it for me,
1066
00:59:36,308 --> 00:59:38,173
it was that, um,
1067
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:42,543
these are laws
that had not been enforced.
1068
00:59:42,948 --> 00:59:44,813
And I knew of no reason
1069
00:59:44,883 --> 00:59:47,010
why they should
not be enforced.
1070
00:59:47,118 --> 00:59:48,483
To make his case,
1071
00:59:48,553 --> 00:59:51,386
Larry Parrish invoked
a highly unusual use
1072
00:59:51,456 --> 00:59:53,014
of the conspiracy laws.
1073
00:59:53,224 --> 00:59:56,193
The government explained
their conspiracy theory
1074
00:59:56,261 --> 00:59:58,229
in the terms of a train.
1075
01:00:00,432 --> 01:00:03,265
That if the train starts
in Los �ngeles
1076
01:00:03,335 --> 01:00:05,599
and you get on in Los �ngeles,
1077
01:00:05,937 --> 01:00:07,996
and you ride to Denver
and get off,
1078
01:00:08,106 --> 01:00:10,574
but the train continues
on to Memphis,
1079
01:00:10,675 --> 01:00:14,076
you are legally responsible
for the entire journey.
1080
01:00:15,146 --> 01:00:17,910
And if you're responsible
for everything
that takes place,
1081
01:00:17,983 --> 01:00:19,814
you have unlimited liability.
1082
01:00:19,884 --> 01:00:23,650
This was a very creative use
of the law of conspiracy
1083
01:00:23,722 --> 01:00:26,953
and prosecutors
should never be creative.
1084
01:00:27,292 --> 01:00:28,884
That's not their job.
1085
01:00:29,094 --> 01:00:31,187
If my mother
had been involved,
1086
01:00:31,262 --> 01:00:32,524
she would
have been indicted.
1087
01:00:32,597 --> 01:00:35,498
I will promise you that.
Uh, she wasn't.
1088
01:00:36,001 --> 01:00:39,232
When you tell artists,
bad artists or good artists,
1089
01:00:39,371 --> 01:00:41,771
that they cannot experiment
in certain avenues,
1090
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,400
you are taking away
the basic freedoms
of every American.
1091
01:00:44,776 --> 01:00:47,176
For some reason, though,
1092
01:00:47,245 --> 01:00:50,681
it was as if
he is involved in art.
1093
01:00:51,216 --> 01:00:53,946
And so art is protected.
1094
01:00:54,252 --> 01:00:57,221
Well, not by the definition
of the Supreme Court.
1095
01:00:57,288 --> 01:00:59,518
Maybe I'm disgusting
in some peoples' eyes.
1096
01:00:59,591 --> 01:01:01,456
Maybe others are bored by me.
1097
01:01:01,526 --> 01:01:04,086
But there are no laws against
acting in these films.
1098
01:01:04,529 --> 01:01:07,225
And the actors
and the actresses,
1099
01:01:07,565 --> 01:01:09,556
I really hesitate
to call them that.
1100
01:01:11,069 --> 01:01:13,867
They are prostitutes
and whoremongers
1101
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,139
On the screen.
1102
01:01:16,207 --> 01:01:18,675
I'm sorry,
that's just all they are.
1103
01:01:19,177 --> 01:01:20,610
And, uh...
1104
01:01:21,913 --> 01:01:23,574
Uh, they...
1105
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:28,744
They don't even believe
that there is any law.
1106
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:32,813
How do you communicate
to those persons
1107
01:01:33,024 --> 01:01:35,288
that this is against the law?
1108
01:01:35,393 --> 01:01:37,020
I face five years in jail.
1109
01:01:37,095 --> 01:01:40,656
Do I belong in jail
for five years
for acting in Deep Throat,
1110
01:01:40,732 --> 01:01:42,495
which is not
in violation of the law?
1111
01:01:49,874 --> 01:01:51,501
If seeing this motion picture
1112
01:01:51,609 --> 01:01:53,543
as many times as
Larry Parrish has seen it
1113
01:01:53,611 --> 01:01:56,478
has not corrupted him,
or made him into a sex addict,
1114
01:01:56,548 --> 01:01:58,948
than I think
that's, uh, proof positive
1115
01:01:59,017 --> 01:02:03,215
that these films do not have
a deleterious effect
on the human being.
1116
01:02:03,888 --> 01:02:05,082
I'm sitting here right now
1117
01:02:05,156 --> 01:02:07,454
trying to draw some images up
from Deep Throat.
1118
01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:09,652
To be honest about it, uh,
1119
01:02:10,862 --> 01:02:13,296
do I feel that I'm worse off
because of it?
1120
01:02:13,364 --> 01:02:14,831
Yes, I do.
1121
01:02:15,467 --> 01:02:18,493
Uh, I can't get images
out of my mind
1122
01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:20,333
that I have seen.
1123
01:02:24,409 --> 01:02:26,673
I have told people
I'm not a eunuch.
1124
01:02:26,745 --> 01:02:30,340
I- I'm a regular
red-blooded American male.
1125
01:02:32,450 --> 01:02:33,849
And, uh,
1126
01:02:33,918 --> 01:02:36,113
and those images
I wish were not there.
1127
01:02:38,056 --> 01:02:40,115
We had a lot of eye contact
with the jury.
1128
01:02:40,191 --> 01:02:43,354
I think the jury
was very sympathetic
to Harry.
1129
01:02:44,929 --> 01:02:47,329
And there was
a palpable change
1130
01:02:47,632 --> 01:02:49,497
in the jury's reaction
1131
01:02:50,335 --> 01:02:53,099
to Harry
after seeing him in the film.
1132
01:02:53,538 --> 01:02:56,598
That was one of the amusing
times in the trial.
1133
01:02:56,708 --> 01:02:58,266
He sat over in a, uh,
1134
01:02:58,376 --> 01:03:00,742
in a corner by himself,
sort of hoverin'
1135
01:03:01,212 --> 01:03:03,043
and wouldn't look at
the jurors,
1136
01:03:03,114 --> 01:03:04,877
and they were all
staring at him.
1137
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:12,856
I felt as though
my life was being
taken away from me.
1138
01:03:12,924 --> 01:03:15,893
And that I was
being depicted, characterized
1139
01:03:16,561 --> 01:03:18,358
as something evil,
a demon.
1140
01:03:25,970 --> 01:03:27,597
After a two-month trial,
1141
01:03:27,705 --> 01:03:29,832
the jury took just five hours
1142
01:03:29,941 --> 01:03:32,705
to return
a unanimously guilty verdict.
1143
01:03:32,811 --> 01:03:34,676
The substance of what you say,
1144
01:03:34,746 --> 01:03:37,374
in effect,
is you were the little man
who wasn't there.
1145
01:03:37,448 --> 01:03:38,847
But the fact
of the matter is,
1146
01:03:38,917 --> 01:03:41,010
you deliberately
and knowingly
1147
01:03:41,085 --> 01:03:42,712
committed a long series
1148
01:03:42,787 --> 01:03:45,517
of immoral, revolting,
obscene acts.
1149
01:03:45,590 --> 01:03:47,581
You might have found it
obscene, and immoral,
1150
01:03:47,659 --> 01:03:49,149
and distasteful,
and disgusting.
1151
01:03:49,227 --> 01:03:50,216
Others don't.
1152
01:03:50,295 --> 01:03:53,560
The acts you performed on film
are acts that would be crimes
1153
01:03:53,631 --> 01:03:56,122
if they were performed
on the street
or someplace else.
1154
01:03:56,201 --> 01:03:58,567
No. They are wonderful
celebrations of life.
1155
01:03:58,636 --> 01:03:59,898
They're called sex,
Mr. Cohn.
1156
01:04:00,004 --> 01:04:02,199
You just can't cloak yourself
with the American flag
1157
01:04:02,307 --> 01:04:03,706
because you don't fit
the image.
1158
01:04:03,775 --> 01:04:07,211
You talk as though
the Bill of Rights
was created just for you.
1159
01:04:15,653 --> 01:04:18,019
For the first time
in US history,
1160
01:04:18,089 --> 01:04:21,547
an actor had been convicted
for merely playing a part.
1161
01:04:21,893 --> 01:04:24,691
And Harry Reems
faced five years in jail.
1162
01:04:25,530 --> 01:04:27,691
It did not bode well
for the future
1163
01:04:27,765 --> 01:04:30,233
of any kind of aesthetic
or artistic expression
1164
01:04:30,301 --> 01:04:32,269
in this country,
in any of the arts,
1165
01:04:32,370 --> 01:04:34,338
much less this poor guy
1166
01:04:34,505 --> 01:04:38,271
who, you know,
suddenly finds himself
being made a scapegoat.
1167
01:04:38,576 --> 01:04:40,134
All in the interest of
1168
01:04:40,245 --> 01:04:43,112
a basically moral crusade.
1169
01:04:47,185 --> 01:04:49,278
What was behind
the case in Memphis
1170
01:04:49,354 --> 01:04:51,549
was the religious right.
1171
01:04:51,623 --> 01:04:54,524
This is the first
real incarnation
1172
01:04:54,592 --> 01:04:58,688
of trying to apply
their conception of morality
1173
01:04:59,464 --> 01:05:00,931
to all of America.
1174
01:05:04,769 --> 01:05:05,827
In response,
1175
01:05:05,937 --> 01:05:09,065
Hollywood was quick
to mobilize and defend
Harry Reems,
1176
01:05:09,173 --> 01:05:12,574
positioning itself as
an opposing cultural force.
1177
01:05:14,112 --> 01:05:15,636
Professionals in the arts
1178
01:05:15,747 --> 01:05:18,011
may not find Deep Throat,
as such,
1179
01:05:18,082 --> 01:05:20,414
a piece of art
worth defending.
1180
01:05:20,618 --> 01:05:22,051
But they are worried about
1181
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,145
the threat of
being arrested later on
1182
01:05:24,222 --> 01:05:26,884
for what
they write or act in today.
1183
01:05:26,958 --> 01:05:28,585
It's a censorship issue.
1184
01:05:28,660 --> 01:05:32,596
My overall concern
is the basic, uh, infringement
1185
01:05:32,664 --> 01:05:34,359
on the rights
of the First Amendment.
1186
01:05:34,432 --> 01:05:36,696
That's probably why
I came to his defense,
1187
01:05:36,768 --> 01:05:39,396
knowing that
Beatty and Nicholson did.
1188
01:05:41,172 --> 01:05:43,663
That's how
I make all my decisions.
1189
01:05:45,276 --> 01:05:48,074
I said,
"Alan, am... am... am I
gonna be convicted?
1190
01:05:48,179 --> 01:05:49,578
"Am I going to do
prison time?"
1191
01:05:49,647 --> 01:05:51,547
And his response was:
1192
01:05:54,118 --> 01:05:55,745
"If the Republicans
are reelected,
1193
01:05:55,820 --> 01:05:57,617
you're going to jail.
1194
01:05:58,089 --> 01:06:01,718
If the Democrats are elected,
you're going to be set free."
1195
01:06:05,063 --> 01:06:07,293
While Harry fought for
his freedom,
1196
01:06:07,365 --> 01:06:10,061
the architect of
the moral crusade
in the first place
1197
01:06:10,134 --> 01:06:13,126
was no longer in office
to savor his triumph.
1198
01:06:13,471 --> 01:06:17,066
I shall resign the Presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
1199
01:06:20,078 --> 01:06:23,275
And his undoing
had also been Deep Throat,
1200
01:06:23,448 --> 01:06:26,440
the nickname for
the secret Watergate source.
1201
01:06:26,684 --> 01:06:28,982
There's an expression
in journalism
1202
01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:31,112
called "deep background"
which means that
1203
01:06:31,189 --> 01:06:34,352
the information cannot be used
in the newspaper
1204
01:06:34,425 --> 01:06:37,622
with any kind of
hint of attribution.
1205
01:06:38,463 --> 01:06:41,591
Deep Throat, deep background.
You know, it's sort of a...
1206
01:06:41,666 --> 01:06:43,725
But if you want to know
how I really feel
1207
01:06:43,801 --> 01:06:47,532
Its national nightmare over,
the nation got down.
1208
01:06:48,740 --> 01:06:50,298
Get the action goin'
1209
01:06:52,844 --> 01:06:54,937
How do you like it?
How do you like it?
1210
01:06:55,013 --> 01:06:57,277
The time was right
for a porno star
to be a pop star.
1211
01:06:57,348 --> 01:06:58,474
Who would have
ever thought?
1212
01:06:58,583 --> 01:07:00,050
How do you like it?
1213
01:07:00,118 --> 01:07:01,779
More, more, more.
1214
01:07:01,886 --> 01:07:03,547
How do you like it,
how do you like it?
1215
01:07:03,621 --> 01:07:04,986
How do you like it?#
1216
01:07:05,056 --> 01:07:06,717
That's it. That's all of it.
1217
01:07:06,791 --> 01:07:09,692
It gets repeated
and repeated and repeated.
1218
01:07:11,496 --> 01:07:12,656
It means nothing.
1219
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,695
Keep it coming, love
1220
01:07:17,769 --> 01:07:19,964
Don't stop it now,
don't stop it, no
1221
01:07:20,071 --> 01:07:21,936
Don't stop it now,
don't stop
1222
01:07:22,006 --> 01:07:26,272
Keep it coming, love,
Keep it coming, love
1223
01:07:26,577 --> 01:07:28,772
Don't stop it now,
don't stop it, no
1224
01:07:28,846 --> 01:07:30,871
Don't stop it now,
don't stop it
1225
01:07:30,948 --> 01:07:34,941
Don't let
your well run dry
1226
01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:37,187
Don't stop it now
1227
01:07:39,057 --> 01:07:40,319
Keep it coming, love#
1228
01:07:40,391 --> 01:07:41,551
A year ago,
1229
01:07:41,626 --> 01:07:44,254
a Memphis federal court
convicted actor Harry Reems
1230
01:07:44,328 --> 01:07:46,796
on obscenity charges
in connection with his role
1231
01:07:46,864 --> 01:07:48,525
in the film Deep Throat.
1232
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,898
Today, a US District Judge
in Memphis overturned
that conviction,
1233
01:07:51,969 --> 01:07:54,563
saying that
the actor's activities
took place before
1234
01:07:54,672 --> 01:07:57,573
the 1973 Supreme Court
obscenity ruling.
1235
01:07:59,010 --> 01:08:02,707
Now that my name
was... was pretty recognizable,
1236
01:08:03,014 --> 01:08:04,242
I moved to LA,
1237
01:08:04,315 --> 01:08:07,079
thinking that
certainly somebody
would come along and say:
1238
01:08:07,151 --> 01:08:09,142
"Well,
there's a sellable name."
1239
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:12,222
Allan Carr had produced
and directed films,
1240
01:08:12,290 --> 01:08:13,882
uh, for Paramount.
1241
01:08:13,958 --> 01:08:15,425
And he called me one day
and said,
1242
01:08:15,493 --> 01:08:17,552
"I'd like you
to play the role
1243
01:08:17,628 --> 01:08:20,722
of the high school coach
in the movie Grease. "
1244
01:08:21,065 --> 01:08:23,590
I was excited that
I was given an opportunity.
1245
01:08:23,668 --> 01:08:25,033
Then about two
or three weeks
1246
01:08:25,136 --> 01:08:27,627
before principal
photography began,
1247
01:08:27,738 --> 01:08:30,366
Paramount Pictures
removed me from the cast.
1248
01:08:30,475 --> 01:08:33,376
That they didn't feel
as though I belonged
1249
01:08:34,078 --> 01:08:36,706
in a mainstream
motion picture.
1250
01:08:37,014 --> 01:08:39,278
And the lights went on
for me.
1251
01:08:39,350 --> 01:08:41,215
I had branded myself
1252
01:08:41,352 --> 01:08:44,014
and, uh, given myself
a certain stigma.
1253
01:08:45,089 --> 01:08:47,250
I just started
to drink every night,
1254
01:08:47,558 --> 01:08:48,991
looking for an escape,
1255
01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:52,154
looking for a little bit
of lightheartedness.
1256
01:08:52,230 --> 01:08:53,629
And, you know,
1257
01:08:53,698 --> 01:08:57,691
it just led me into
a terrible, terrible disease
1258
01:08:57,768 --> 01:08:59,895
of alcoholism
and drug addiction.
1259
01:09:00,371 --> 01:09:02,202
What are you doin'?
1260
01:09:02,406 --> 01:09:05,102
An antidote.
I'm mixing an antidote.
1261
01:09:05,276 --> 01:09:07,210
I remember
the last movies I was on,
1262
01:09:07,278 --> 01:09:08,768
I couldn't even walk.
1263
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,246
I mean, literally,
they had to carry me to a seat
1264
01:09:11,315 --> 01:09:14,341
and I'd shoot
the whole motion picture
sitting in a seat,
1265
01:09:14,418 --> 01:09:16,443
delivering lines, drunk.
1266
01:09:19,423 --> 01:09:21,983
I was so drunk
and so drugged up at the time
1267
01:09:22,059 --> 01:09:24,892
that I couldn't do
sex scenes.
1268
01:09:25,363 --> 01:09:27,024
Oh, my head.
1269
01:09:27,098 --> 01:09:29,157
They'd carry me off the set
1270
01:09:29,233 --> 01:09:32,725
and somebody would get me home
and I'd drink some more
1271
01:09:32,837 --> 01:09:35,601
and they'd pick me up
and take me back the next day.
1272
01:09:35,706 --> 01:09:37,731
It's all a blur.
It's all a blur.
1273
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,213
I lost my home.
1274
01:09:43,281 --> 01:09:45,010
I lost my career.
1275
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:47,515
I lost my friends,
1276
01:09:49,086 --> 01:09:50,781
and ended up, literally,
1277
01:09:50,855 --> 01:09:54,018
panhandling in the streets
on Sunset Boulevard.
1278
01:09:55,893 --> 01:09:57,485
Harry's personal defeat
1279
01:09:57,562 --> 01:09:59,928
in the face of
his First Amendment triumph
1280
01:09:59,997 --> 01:10:02,693
reflected the way
society was changing.
1281
01:10:07,171 --> 01:10:08,604
Get lost!
1282
01:10:08,673 --> 01:10:10,641
Freedom! Freedom!
1283
01:10:10,741 --> 01:10:12,709
Culture took
a reactionary turn
1284
01:10:12,810 --> 01:10:14,937
after what seemed like
we were on, uh, heading
1285
01:10:15,012 --> 01:10:17,776
toward a climax of
the sexual revolution
1286
01:10:17,848 --> 01:10:20,442
that we never
actually, uh, attained.
1287
01:10:22,687 --> 01:10:24,746
In the 1970s,
1288
01:10:24,822 --> 01:10:28,019
the worst censors
in the country
1289
01:10:28,426 --> 01:10:30,792
suddenly became the feminists.
1290
01:10:32,797 --> 01:10:34,594
The so-called
sexual revolution
1291
01:10:34,665 --> 01:10:38,123
in this country
has not been liberating
for women.
1292
01:10:38,202 --> 01:10:41,194
It's the way that pornography
invades the popular culture...
1293
01:10:41,272 --> 01:10:44,105
It's becoming increasingly
socially acceptable.
1294
01:10:45,543 --> 01:10:47,670
The role that
you have selected for women
1295
01:10:47,745 --> 01:10:48,803
is degrading to women
1296
01:10:48,879 --> 01:10:50,904
because you choose to see
women as sex objects
1297
01:10:50,982 --> 01:10:52,279
not as full human beings.
1298
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,079
Well, obviously...
Hold on. The day that...
1299
01:10:55,386 --> 01:10:57,251
Obviously...
I haven't finished.
1300
01:10:57,321 --> 01:10:59,255
The day that you are willing
to come out here
1301
01:10:59,323 --> 01:11:01,689
with a cottontail
attached to your rear end...
1302
01:11:04,462 --> 01:11:07,295
When the women's movement
began to attack sex in general
1303
01:11:07,365 --> 01:11:08,423
and men in general,
1304
01:11:08,499 --> 01:11:09,557
I was...
1305
01:11:09,634 --> 01:11:10,999
I was at a loss for words
1306
01:11:11,068 --> 01:11:13,696
because these were
our partners
1307
01:11:13,804 --> 01:11:16,170
in a revolution
to really change
1308
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,231
uh, sexual values.
1309
01:11:18,476 --> 01:11:19,670
I'm more in sympathy
1310
01:11:19,744 --> 01:11:21,735
than perhaps, uh, you know,
the giris realize...
1311
01:11:21,846 --> 01:11:22,870
Women.
1312
01:11:22,947 --> 01:11:24,005
I'm sorry.
1313
01:11:24,081 --> 01:11:25,105
Yes. I'm 35.
1314
01:11:25,182 --> 01:11:26,581
Than the ladies realize.
1315
01:11:26,651 --> 01:11:28,676
I use "giris" referring to
women of all ages.
1316
01:11:28,753 --> 01:11:30,277
You should stop.
1317
01:11:30,354 --> 01:11:32,379
If you want to
be called a boy.
1318
01:11:32,456 --> 01:11:34,481
I see. Okay. Um...
1319
01:11:37,561 --> 01:11:40,462
The idea was
to convince people
1320
01:11:41,198 --> 01:11:45,294
that there were good, sound,
feminist, humanitarian reasons
1321
01:11:45,403 --> 01:11:47,428
to be against pornography.
1322
01:11:48,973 --> 01:11:51,771
Women Against Pornography
found a surprising ally
1323
01:11:51,842 --> 01:11:55,300
in America's most famous
porn star: Linda Lovelace,
1324
01:11:55,413 --> 01:11:56,937
who had retired
from the spotlight
1325
01:11:57,014 --> 01:11:58,447
and was now
a mother and housewife.
1326
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:03,950
Linda Lovelace is, uh, here.
1327
01:12:04,021 --> 01:12:05,921
The book is titled,
uh, Ordeal.
1328
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:08,151
And I'll tell you,
this book is a very, uh,
1329
01:12:08,225 --> 01:12:10,523
explicit recounting
of what happened to you.
1330
01:12:10,594 --> 01:12:12,892
I felt it was important to let
1331
01:12:12,963 --> 01:12:14,590
everything out
that happened to me.
1332
01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:17,167
I literally became a prisoner
of Mr. Traynor's.
1333
01:12:17,234 --> 01:12:19,634
I wasn't permitted to go to
the bathroom by myself.
1334
01:12:19,737 --> 01:12:21,728
I was never allowed
out of his eyesight.
1335
01:12:21,839 --> 01:12:24,205
If he took a shower,
I had to take a shower
with him.
1336
01:12:24,275 --> 01:12:27,676
If I did have
any kind of communication
with my friends or my family,
1337
01:12:27,745 --> 01:12:29,542
he was on the extension
with a.45
1338
01:12:29,613 --> 01:12:32,343
or an M-16
semi-automatic machine gun
pointed at me.
1339
01:12:32,683 --> 01:12:36,244
And there are those who say
you can see the bruises
on her in the film.
1340
01:12:38,189 --> 01:12:41,454
You tell me if the bruises
are visible in the film.
1341
01:12:41,525 --> 01:12:44,426
How did Linda Lovelace and
Gloria Steinem join forces?
1342
01:12:44,495 --> 01:12:46,053
How did the two of you
get together?
1343
01:12:46,130 --> 01:12:48,963
I saw Linda
on the Phil Donahue Show.
1344
01:12:49,033 --> 01:12:52,833
And she was
being questioned by Phil,
1345
01:12:52,937 --> 01:12:55,633
who I think is usually
a more sensitive questioner
1346
01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:57,401
than he was this time,
1347
01:12:57,508 --> 01:13:00,807
uh, and by the audience,
with enormous disbelief.
1348
01:13:01,011 --> 01:13:02,842
And I still find it
very hard to believe
1349
01:13:02,913 --> 01:13:04,904
that you have become
a changed person.
1350
01:13:04,982 --> 01:13:07,542
I had always heard
that to be hypnotized,
you had to be willing.
1351
01:13:07,618 --> 01:13:10,143
Is there something about
the way you were raised,
in your view,
1352
01:13:10,221 --> 01:13:11,688
that made you
vulnerable to this?
1353
01:13:11,789 --> 01:13:14,223
And yet
she was still being asked,
1354
01:13:14,291 --> 01:13:16,122
uh, what in her background
1355
01:13:16,193 --> 01:13:18,821
had led her to become
essentially a hostage.
1356
01:13:19,096 --> 01:13:21,121
What did lead you
to become a hostage,
1357
01:13:21,198 --> 01:13:23,063
if we can... if we can now
ask the question?
1358
01:13:23,134 --> 01:13:25,227
Does it go back beyond that
to your childhood,
1359
01:13:25,302 --> 01:13:26,735
that you were
a susceptible person?
1360
01:13:26,837 --> 01:13:27,861
No.
1361
01:13:27,972 --> 01:13:31,032
See now what you're doing,
you're doing what... what
made me so angry.
1362
01:13:31,142 --> 01:13:34,202
You know,
because we don't say
to the hostages in Iran:
1363
01:13:34,311 --> 01:13:37,109
"What in your... what in
your background led you
1364
01:13:37,181 --> 01:13:38,808
to... to be in that embassy?"
Yeah.
1365
01:13:38,883 --> 01:13:40,874
The situations are not
nearly comparable.
1366
01:13:40,951 --> 01:13:43,249
They are. It's force.
1367
01:13:43,988 --> 01:13:47,446
Linda needed somebody
to tell her what to do.
1368
01:13:49,093 --> 01:13:51,493
And as long as
she had somebody
telling her what to do,
1369
01:13:51,562 --> 01:13:53,120
she... she was happy.
1370
01:13:53,197 --> 01:13:54,459
So when she
made the movie,
1371
01:13:54,532 --> 01:13:55,999
she was happy
making the movie.
1372
01:13:56,066 --> 01:13:57,499
After the movie,
somebody said,
1373
01:13:57,568 --> 01:13:59,297
"Hey, you shouldn't have
made that movie."
1374
01:13:59,403 --> 01:14:01,496
So she became unhappy
about making the movie,
1375
01:14:01,605 --> 01:14:03,232
which wasn't true.
1376
01:14:03,474 --> 01:14:06,307
She was very happy
about making the movie.
1377
01:14:11,415 --> 01:14:14,578
Linda's new fame as
a crusader against pornography
1378
01:14:14,652 --> 01:14:18,679
culminated with her testimony
before the Meese Commission
in 1986.
1379
01:14:19,089 --> 01:14:21,216
My ordeal still goes on.
1380
01:14:21,292 --> 01:14:23,021
The film Deep Throat
still shows
1381
01:14:23,093 --> 01:14:25,561
and virtually every time
someone watches that movie,
1382
01:14:25,629 --> 01:14:27,995
they're watching me
being raped.
1383
01:14:28,098 --> 01:14:30,191
Once again,
the government had set out
1384
01:14:30,267 --> 01:14:32,201
to determine
the effect of pornography.
1385
01:14:32,269 --> 01:14:35,238
This time,
instead of relying on
scientific data,
1386
01:14:35,306 --> 01:14:37,137
they relied on
personal testimony
1387
01:14:37,208 --> 01:14:40,143
to prove that pornography
was a social evil.
1388
01:14:41,312 --> 01:14:44,145
Well, the other day
my 8-year-old son said to me:
1389
01:14:44,215 --> 01:14:46,547
"Mommy,
if this country is so great,
1390
01:14:46,617 --> 01:14:48,551
how come people
are still hurting you?"
1391
01:14:48,619 --> 01:14:50,484
It's sort of like
the Oprah Show.
1392
01:14:50,554 --> 01:14:53,489
It's, um, much more anecdotal.
Much less professional.
1393
01:14:53,691 --> 01:14:56,819
So what Nixon starts
in the '60s and '70s
1394
01:14:56,894 --> 01:14:58,361
by stacking the court,
1395
01:14:58,429 --> 01:15:00,397
Reagan finishes
with the Meese report.
1396
01:15:00,464 --> 01:15:02,398
In its most controversial
finding,
1397
01:15:02,466 --> 01:15:03,660
the commission concludes
1398
01:15:03,734 --> 01:15:06,362
there is a relationship
between violence
and pornography.
1399
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:09,132
The commission conducted
no scientific studies.
1400
01:15:12,843 --> 01:15:15,277
Finally,
after decades of struggle,
1401
01:15:15,346 --> 01:15:17,644
politics triumphed over
pornography.
1402
01:15:17,715 --> 01:15:19,478
But the victory was hollow.
1403
01:15:19,550 --> 01:15:20,983
The success of Deep Throat
1404
01:15:21,051 --> 01:15:23,611
created enormous demand
for hardcore,
1405
01:15:23,687 --> 01:15:25,746
that new technology
could now satisfy
1406
01:15:25,823 --> 01:15:27,950
and avoid all regulation.
1407
01:15:28,392 --> 01:15:31,589
The phenomenal sales of
home videocassette machines
1408
01:15:31,662 --> 01:15:34,460
have opened up a new market
for erotic films.
1409
01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:37,592
It's a market
that barely existed
a couple of years ago.
1410
01:15:37,668 --> 01:15:40,569
But today,
30 to 50 percent of the tapes
1411
01:15:40,671 --> 01:15:42,832
available for play
in these machines
1412
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:44,840
are hardcore pornography.
1413
01:15:54,485 --> 01:15:57,921
Gerry Damiano,
I think, really thought
1414
01:15:58,255 --> 01:16:01,986
that porn was going to
merge into, kind of,
Hollywood films.
1415
01:16:06,397 --> 01:16:08,592
That porn movies
1416
01:16:08,666 --> 01:16:11,066
were gonna just get
bigger and bigger budgets
1417
01:16:11,135 --> 01:16:13,968
and become more like
feature films
with hardcore sex.
1418
01:16:14,204 --> 01:16:18,106
Looked like it was going to
burst itself into something,
into an art form.
1419
01:16:18,208 --> 01:16:19,300
That didn't happen.
1420
01:16:19,410 --> 01:16:21,173
In fact,
just the opposite happened.
1421
01:16:21,345 --> 01:16:24,473
Instead, it dwindled in-into
a mediocre commodity.
1422
01:16:28,085 --> 01:16:31,054
With the advent of
the video camera,
1423
01:16:31,188 --> 01:16:35,056
it got to be so easy
to... to shoot X-rated video
1424
01:16:35,225 --> 01:16:37,284
that ev-everybody could do it.
1425
01:16:37,394 --> 01:16:39,692
And then, the only ones
that did it
1426
01:16:39,763 --> 01:16:42,459
were the ones that could do it
cheaper and cheaper,
1427
01:16:42,533 --> 01:16:44,433
for less and less
and less money.
1428
01:16:48,939 --> 01:16:51,169
They were...
they were nothing.
1429
01:16:51,241 --> 01:16:54,039
It was just
one sex scene after another.
1430
01:16:54,144 --> 01:16:56,510
And it... it sort of
killed itself.
1431
01:17:00,551 --> 01:17:03,019
I couldn't make
that kind of film.
1432
01:17:03,187 --> 01:17:06,020
Because there was...
there was no reason to.
1433
01:17:06,757 --> 01:17:09,282
It became a...
it became a factory.
1434
01:17:11,528 --> 01:17:13,120
It was over.
1435
01:17:13,197 --> 01:17:15,791
You didn't need
filmmakers anymore.
1436
01:17:20,804 --> 01:17:22,999
As the adult industry grew,
1437
01:17:23,107 --> 01:17:25,132
it neither needed
the rebel filmmaker
1438
01:17:25,242 --> 01:17:26,607
who had pioneered it
1439
01:17:26,677 --> 01:17:29,544
nor heeded
the feminist protest
against it.
1440
01:17:29,647 --> 01:17:31,808
So finding herself redundant,
1441
01:17:31,882 --> 01:17:34,908
Linda Lovelace
moved with her family
to Denver
1442
01:17:34,985 --> 01:17:37,215
to try and start a new life.
1443
01:17:37,921 --> 01:17:39,548
Um, that's Mom at her desk.
1444
01:17:39,623 --> 01:17:42,057
Uh, she was the manager
of the mailroom.
1445
01:17:44,094 --> 01:17:46,392
She was proud of her new desk.
1446
01:17:46,797 --> 01:17:47,957
Um...
1447
01:17:48,332 --> 01:17:50,732
They fired her
when they found out about LL.
1448
01:17:50,801 --> 01:17:52,462
It happened a lot.
1449
01:17:57,741 --> 01:17:59,299
You know, I've lost two jobs
1450
01:17:59,410 --> 01:18:01,571
because of the name
Linda Lovelace.
1451
01:18:01,645 --> 01:18:04,375
And, uh,
that-that's kind of...
1452
01:18:04,448 --> 01:18:05,574
That hurts.
1453
01:18:05,649 --> 01:18:08,015
You know,
I was always defending myself
1454
01:18:08,085 --> 01:18:10,883
after, what, 25 years.
1455
01:18:11,321 --> 01:18:13,881
I don't have to do that
too much anymore.
1456
01:18:13,957 --> 01:18:16,653
So I've decided
it's time for me
to do what I can
1457
01:18:16,727 --> 01:18:18,627
to earn an income
1458
01:18:19,263 --> 01:18:22,755
from, uh, the abuse that
I went through from the name.
1459
01:18:23,801 --> 01:18:25,393
Broke and out of work,
1460
01:18:25,469 --> 01:18:28,836
Linda returned to the worid
she had once condemned.
1461
01:18:33,077 --> 01:18:35,545
You know, I think it's kind of
nice looking sexy
1462
01:18:35,612 --> 01:18:37,341
and... and still
looking attractive at 51.
1463
01:18:37,414 --> 01:18:41,009
So, I didn't feel
there was anything wrong
with doing it.
1464
01:18:41,385 --> 01:18:43,114
Many feminists
who have written,
1465
01:18:43,187 --> 01:18:44,484
you know, books...
1466
01:18:44,555 --> 01:18:48,321
And they're always using
the name Linda Lovelace,
and what happened to me.
1467
01:18:48,392 --> 01:18:50,917
I don't get
any royalties from that.
1468
01:18:51,495 --> 01:18:54,293
And it doesn't take much
to keep me happy.
1469
01:18:54,364 --> 01:18:56,525
You know?
I get to be with
my grandchildren,
1470
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,160
around my children,
and that's my joy.
1471
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:14,947
She died penniless.
Didn't have a dime.
1472
01:19:15,419 --> 01:19:16,545
Didn't have a dime.
1473
01:19:20,991 --> 01:19:22,288
And they all got rich.
1474
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:24,020
They all got
their hands in the pocket.
1475
01:19:29,299 --> 01:19:32,427
Fuck me harder,
harder, harder.
1476
01:19:33,203 --> 01:19:35,671
Sex is a force,
it's a force like lava.
1477
01:19:35,739 --> 01:19:38,833
And there haven't been
too many successful
engineering projects
1478
01:19:38,942 --> 01:19:40,739
about diverting
the flow of lava.
1479
01:19:43,313 --> 01:19:46,339
Did I ever see
the movie Deep Throat?
No.
1480
01:19:46,483 --> 01:19:47,609
Should I?
1481
01:19:47,718 --> 01:19:50,585
No. That's with, um,
that lady who died.
1482
01:19:50,654 --> 01:19:51,746
What's her name?
1483
01:19:52,156 --> 01:19:54,090
No, I have not seen it.
1484
01:19:59,363 --> 01:20:03,322
Deep Throat forged
the sexual revolution
1485
01:20:04,701 --> 01:20:06,100
for good or bad.
1486
01:20:06,170 --> 01:20:07,797
It led to the porno business.
1487
01:20:07,905 --> 01:20:12,205
Linda Lovelace turned it,
and Deep Throat turned it,
into an industry.
1488
01:20:12,409 --> 01:20:13,569
And like it or hate it,
1489
01:20:13,677 --> 01:20:15,838
that's what she's gonna be
remembered for, forever.
1490
01:20:18,415 --> 01:20:21,851
Porn really does have
a yucky feel to it today.
1491
01:20:23,020 --> 01:20:26,478
Part of it, I think,
that was lost is this,
a certain innocence.
1492
01:20:26,590 --> 01:20:29,150
For that brief moment,
porn was part of
1493
01:20:29,226 --> 01:20:31,387
discovery, curiosity,
1494
01:20:32,362 --> 01:20:33,590
change.
1495
01:20:34,464 --> 01:20:36,295
Today it's different.
1496
01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:38,393
What happened
1497
01:20:38,468 --> 01:20:41,403
was that a very cynical
pornography industry
1498
01:20:41,471 --> 01:20:44,406
came in on the heels
of the First Amendment
1499
01:20:44,474 --> 01:20:47,671
and began coining money
hand over fist.
1500
01:20:49,179 --> 01:20:52,148
So, it changed the nature
of... of pornographic sex,
1501
01:20:52,216 --> 01:20:53,945
from art to money.
1502
01:20:56,386 --> 01:20:59,412
Money is not interested in
the little alleys
1503
01:20:59,756 --> 01:21:01,917
of endeavor...
of artistic endeavor.
1504
01:21:02,125 --> 01:21:04,252
It wants the main highway.
1505
01:21:10,634 --> 01:21:12,727
It's a really dramatic fact
1506
01:21:12,803 --> 01:21:15,601
that we have gone
from people staring up
at a marquee
1507
01:21:15,706 --> 01:21:17,469
and thinking
"What can deep throat mean?
1508
01:21:17,574 --> 01:21:19,439
Surely not
what I'm thinking"
1509
01:21:19,509 --> 01:21:22,808
to kids who don't
consider it sex.
1510
01:21:31,788 --> 01:21:35,121
They perverted it
instead of improving it.
1511
01:21:36,493 --> 01:21:38,825
They took a beautiful thing
that God gave mankind,
1512
01:21:38,896 --> 01:21:41,831
and they perverted it.
And the results are obvious.
1513
01:21:41,899 --> 01:21:43,389
All you have to do
is look around.
1514
01:21:49,973 --> 01:21:51,964
Deep Throat's
legacy goes beyond
1515
01:21:52,075 --> 01:21:55,340
the sexually saturated culture
that surrounds us today
1516
01:21:55,412 --> 01:21:58,279
and reaches back to
the beginnings
of a culture war
1517
01:21:58,348 --> 01:22:00,748
that divides us
as never before.
1518
01:22:14,197 --> 01:22:17,030
Deep Throat was less about
the joys of oral sex
1519
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:20,297
than it was about the freedom
to speak out against shame
1520
01:22:20,404 --> 01:22:21,735
and hypocrisy.
1521
01:22:22,739 --> 01:22:25,503
The FCC has fined
169 stations to pay...
1522
01:22:25,575 --> 01:22:27,668
Congress is also
cracking down...
1523
01:22:27,778 --> 01:22:29,609
Three Supreme Court justices
1524
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,547
are expected to retire
over the next four years.
1525
01:22:32,616 --> 01:22:34,777
Each of these 169...
1526
01:22:39,089 --> 01:22:42,820
Today, there are people
in the Department of Justice
1527
01:22:42,893 --> 01:22:46,590
in high places,
sympathetic with
obscenity laws.
1528
01:22:47,364 --> 01:22:49,059
I think today
1529
01:22:49,933 --> 01:22:52,458
the climate is
even more ripe
1530
01:22:52,803 --> 01:22:55,567
for vigorous enforcement
of obscenity laws.
1531
01:22:57,474 --> 01:22:59,806
Now if we could get
these terrorists to go away
1532
01:23:01,044 --> 01:23:03,342
And quit taking up
so much time of the,
1533
01:23:03,413 --> 01:23:05,904
uh, of
the Department of Justice...
1534
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,212
All right?
1535
01:23:11,288 --> 01:23:12,414
Thank you.
1536
01:23:12,489 --> 01:23:13,786
You're welcome.
1537
01:23:39,216 --> 01:23:43,243
The changing of sunlight
1538
01:23:44,554 --> 01:23:46,454
To moonlight
1539
01:23:46,523 --> 01:23:49,492
Reflections of my life
1540
01:23:51,695 --> 01:23:55,153
Oh, how they fill my eyes
1541
01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:02,104
The greetings
1542
01:24:02,706 --> 01:24:06,733
Of people in trouble
1543
01:24:07,277 --> 01:24:10,610
Reflections of my life
1544
01:24:12,382 --> 01:24:15,943
Oh, how they fill my mind
1545
01:24:20,424 --> 01:24:23,484
All my sorrows
1546
01:24:25,362 --> 01:24:28,729
Sad tomorrows
1547
01:24:30,534 --> 01:24:33,594
Take me back
1548
01:24:33,837 --> 01:24:36,806
To my own home
1549
01:24:40,710 --> 01:24:45,613
All my cryings,
All my cryings
1550
01:24:45,849 --> 01:24:49,683
Feel I'm dying, dying
1551
01:24:50,887 --> 01:24:53,822
Take me back
1552
01:24:54,124 --> 01:24:56,957
To my own home
1553
01:25:00,764 --> 01:25:04,222
All my sorrows
1554
01:25:05,635 --> 01:25:08,798
Sad tomorrows
1555
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,633
To this day,
1556
01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:12,867
people ask me to see
Deep Throat.
1557
01:25:12,976 --> 01:25:14,841
And they all, you know...
1558
01:25:14,911 --> 01:25:16,742
When they refer to Artie,
you know,
1559
01:25:16,813 --> 01:25:18,747
he has a deep throat, so.
1560
01:25:19,149 --> 01:25:21,947
They say,
"You know the guy with
the deep throat, you know?
1561
01:25:22,018 --> 01:25:24,350
"He's the one that did
Deep Throat. "
1562
01:25:25,055 --> 01:25:28,422
We always have to emphasize
that we didn't do it,
you know.
1563
01:25:28,492 --> 01:25:31,552
We just distributed it.
Because, he wouldn't...
1564
01:25:31,628 --> 01:25:33,926
I don't think he would...
Would you ever do that?
1565
01:25:33,997 --> 01:25:35,794
I wouldn't know how.
I knew it!
1566
01:25:35,866 --> 01:25:38,664
But if you did know how,
would you do it?
1567
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:41,569
You have to think
about that?
1568
01:25:41,671 --> 01:25:42,797
Hey.
1569
01:25:42,906 --> 01:25:45,875
All my sorrows
1570
01:25:45,976 --> 01:25:48,877
Sad tomorrows
1571
01:25:50,914 --> 01:25:53,576
Take me back
1572
01:25:54,017 --> 01:25:56,577
To my own home
1573
01:25:56,653 --> 01:25:58,416
Okay.
Are we finished?
1574
01:26:00,657 --> 01:26:02,318
All my sorrows#
1575
01:26:03,894 --> 01:26:07,421
Now I'm gonna tell you
1576
01:26:08,198 --> 01:26:11,793
The way it has to be
1577
01:26:12,402 --> 01:26:16,429
And if you pay attention
1578
01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:20,867
I'm sure that you will see
1579
01:26:22,145 --> 01:26:25,478
Just relax your muscles
1580
01:26:26,183 --> 01:26:29,675
And once
you've hit that spot
1581
01:26:31,188 --> 01:26:34,919
Keep right on pushin'
1582
01:26:35,258 --> 01:26:38,989
Then give it
all you've got
1583
01:26:40,297 --> 01:26:43,892
Now we've found
your tinkler
1584
01:26:44,534 --> 01:26:48,231
The solution
is quite clear
1585
01:26:49,105 --> 01:26:53,269
For if we both
can hit it now
1586
01:26:53,944 --> 01:26:57,641
The bells
you'll surely hear#
1587
01:28:13,056 --> 01:28:15,650
Helen, there's got to be
more to life
1588
01:28:15,725 --> 01:28:18,023
Than screwing around.
1589
01:28:22,565 --> 01:28:24,430
I mean,
there should be more to sex
1590
01:28:24,501 --> 01:28:27,231
Than a lot of little tingles.
1591
01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:31,840
There should be bells ringing,
1592
01:28:31,908 --> 01:28:35,275
dams bursting,
bombs going off, something.
1593
01:28:42,852 --> 01:28:44,649
Find the solution.
1594
01:28:44,721 --> 01:28:45,745
Like what?
1595
01:28:45,822 --> 01:28:47,050
Like deep throat.
1596
01:28:47,123 --> 01:28:49,114
Deep throat.
1597
01:28:52,262 --> 01:28:54,753
Deep throat.
1598
01:29:01,104 --> 01:29:02,799
Dr. Young.
1599
01:29:06,543 --> 01:29:08,977
Deep throat.
1600
01:29:11,181 --> 01:29:12,239
Dr. Young
1601
01:29:12,315 --> 01:29:14,681
Deep throat.
1602
01:29:17,954 --> 01:29:20,354
Deep throat.
1603
01:29:30,767 --> 01:29:34,726
Oh, Dr. Young.
1604
01:29:35,305 --> 01:30:35,791
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