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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:10,074 OpenSubtitles.org AP stops working soon, but not for VIP members -> osdb.link/vip 2 00:00:30,499 --> 00:00:35,459 Now they're planning the crime of the century 3 00:00:36,605 --> 00:00:40,006 Well what will it be? 4 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:50,910 Read all about their schemes and adventuring 5 00:00:52,487 --> 00:00:56,150 It's well worth a fee# 6 00:01:01,463 --> 00:01:03,226 We are living in a glorious time, 7 00:01:03,298 --> 00:01:05,129 a time of great conflict to be sure. 8 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,862 Today, a nationwide crackdown was underway... 9 00:01:07,969 --> 00:01:10,062 ... eight men were arrested from... 10 00:01:10,172 --> 00:01:12,834 ... hardcore pornographic pictures. 11 00:01:14,176 --> 00:01:16,644 On one side of the coin are those in favor 12 00:01:16,711 --> 00:01:18,338 of absolutely no censorship. 13 00:01:20,749 --> 00:01:23,582 On the other hand, there are those who advocate 14 00:01:23,652 --> 00:01:27,144 the government dictating to us what we should see, 15 00:01:27,956 --> 00:01:29,446 read, and hear. 16 00:01:29,524 --> 00:01:32,618 ... they say it all started with the sex film Deep Throat. 17 00:01:48,677 --> 00:01:50,304 I saw Deep Throat in New York 18 00:01:50,378 --> 00:01:51,367 when it first came out. 19 00:01:55,784 --> 00:01:57,752 People were lined up 20 00:01:57,819 --> 00:01:59,946 for at least three blocks. 21 00:02:01,022 --> 00:02:05,652 I was once out strolling one very hot summer's day 22 00:02:05,727 --> 00:02:09,288 Oh, yeah, there was a screening in some psychoanalyst's apartment 23 00:02:09,364 --> 00:02:11,958 and everybody watched and smoked dope. Oh, yeah. 24 00:02:12,033 --> 00:02:14,968 I dreamed I was in a Hollywood movie 25 00:02:16,471 --> 00:02:18,996 That I was the star of the movie 26 00:02:20,075 --> 00:02:22,009 This really blew my mind 27 00:02:22,077 --> 00:02:23,977 I thought, "Fantastic. 28 00:02:24,045 --> 00:02:26,707 "This is going to change the climate 29 00:02:27,215 --> 00:02:30,343 "of talking about issues of sexuality 30 00:02:30,619 --> 00:02:32,849 in these United States." 31 00:02:32,921 --> 00:02:36,721 Spill the wine and take that pearl# 32 00:02:37,259 --> 00:02:40,626 I'm one of the handful of people who never saw it. 33 00:02:40,962 --> 00:02:42,589 I didn't intend to not see it. 34 00:02:44,266 --> 00:02:47,099 Perhaps you could arrange for me to see it. 35 00:02:47,636 --> 00:02:48,660 Now. 36 00:02:59,881 --> 00:03:02,315 Deep Throat was an epochal moment 37 00:03:02,384 --> 00:03:04,181 in the history of modern sexuality. 38 00:03:04,252 --> 00:03:07,483 It is the first time that respectable middle-class women 39 00:03:07,556 --> 00:03:09,387 went to porn theaters. 40 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,284 It really broke down, 41 00:03:13,361 --> 00:03:15,761 uh, traditional codes of... of decorum. 42 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,233 Linda Lovelace, 43 00:03:20,302 --> 00:03:22,930 and conversations, and jokes about Deep Throat, 44 00:03:23,038 --> 00:03:24,869 appeared on network television. 45 00:03:24,973 --> 00:03:26,941 If the film became mainstream, 46 00:03:27,042 --> 00:03:29,533 conversation about it became truly mainstream. 47 00:03:29,644 --> 00:03:31,339 It's kind of a strange country, isn't it? 48 00:03:31,413 --> 00:03:34,075 Judges can see Deep Throat, but they can't listen to those tapes. 49 00:03:36,151 --> 00:03:38,244 I think the major thing that set, uh, 50 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,947 Deep Throat apart was, 51 00:03:40,021 --> 00:03:41,352 it had a gimmick. 52 00:03:41,423 --> 00:03:42,651 Ah! Ah... ah! 53 00:03:43,992 --> 00:03:46,825 Well, there it is, you little bugger, there it is. 54 00:03:46,895 --> 00:03:48,123 What? 55 00:03:48,363 --> 00:03:51,628 Your clitoris, it's deep down in the bottom of your throat. 56 00:03:53,001 --> 00:03:54,935 The clitoris hidden in the throat 57 00:03:55,003 --> 00:03:57,028 was something you could talk about and laugh about. 58 00:03:57,138 --> 00:03:59,129 It's better than having no clitoris at all. 59 00:04:00,242 --> 00:04:02,335 That's easy for you to say. 60 00:04:03,778 --> 00:04:06,303 Suppose your balls were in your ear. 61 00:04:07,382 --> 00:04:09,907 I was 19 when I saw it. 62 00:04:09,985 --> 00:04:12,886 I don't think I had found where the clitoris really was. 63 00:04:12,954 --> 00:04:14,478 So I think the idea 64 00:04:14,556 --> 00:04:16,080 that it was misplaced 65 00:04:16,157 --> 00:04:18,125 on the human body was lost on me. 66 00:04:18,193 --> 00:04:20,889 L... I was looking for the original site. 67 00:04:21,796 --> 00:04:23,161 It was a giggle. 68 00:04:23,231 --> 00:04:25,893 And the worst thing to be said about us, as Americans, 69 00:04:25,967 --> 00:04:27,798 is that we'll sell our souls for a giggle. 70 00:04:27,869 --> 00:04:29,837 Listen, uh, we have the problem solved. 71 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:32,065 All we have to do now is find the solution. 72 00:04:32,173 --> 00:04:33,731 Like what? 73 00:04:33,842 --> 00:04:34,968 Like deep throat. 74 00:04:37,545 --> 00:04:38,477 Deep what? 75 00:04:38,546 --> 00:04:39,478 Throat. 76 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:41,811 Have you ever taken a penis all the way down 77 00:04:41,883 --> 00:04:43,111 to the bottom of your throat? 78 00:04:52,927 --> 00:04:55,259 It was a badge of the new freedom. 79 00:04:56,431 --> 00:04:57,659 Have you been to the experience 80 00:04:57,732 --> 00:04:59,131 of paying to go in a porno theater 81 00:05:00,268 --> 00:05:01,735 And see a woman give a blowjob 82 00:05:01,836 --> 00:05:03,895 in a movie theater in your community? 83 00:05:04,005 --> 00:05:05,734 That was very, very new. 84 00:05:06,141 --> 00:05:08,609 Something that's hard for people today to imagine, 85 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:10,337 how liberating that was. 86 00:05:10,412 --> 00:05:13,438 Or... or terrible, depending on what you believe in. 87 00:05:15,417 --> 00:05:17,442 It's a floodtide of filth that's engulfed 88 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:19,009 the minds and hearts and souls 89 00:05:19,087 --> 00:05:21,078 of America like nothing else ever has. 90 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:25,691 We have smut all over the face of this country now 91 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,560 because we are letting those immoral people 92 00:05:29,631 --> 00:05:32,464 have their way in our country. 93 00:05:36,271 --> 00:05:39,035 Deep Throat succeeded commercially at least in part 94 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:41,665 because the government went after it. 95 00:05:41,776 --> 00:05:44,574 The government became the driving force 96 00:05:44,646 --> 00:05:46,443 behind the public relations. 97 00:05:50,085 --> 00:05:52,952 I just saw it and I liked it. 98 00:05:53,021 --> 00:05:56,422 I liked it. I wanted to see a dirty picture and that's what I saw. 99 00:05:56,491 --> 00:05:59,460 But I want the right to see that picture. 100 00:05:59,527 --> 00:06:03,293 I don't want somebody telling me that I can't see a dirty picture. 101 00:06:05,967 --> 00:06:09,801 Deep Throat attacks the very core of our being. 102 00:06:41,236 --> 00:06:43,534 Every time someone watches that movie, 103 00:06:43,638 --> 00:06:45,538 they're watching me being raped. 104 00:06:49,644 --> 00:06:52,909 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat? 105 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:59,376 Deep Throat now has had a phenomenal success 106 00:06:59,454 --> 00:07:01,615 going on for two-and-a-half years, 107 00:07:01,689 --> 00:07:03,589 and it's only because it's being hassled. 108 00:07:03,658 --> 00:07:05,751 Do you think it's a good movie? 109 00:07:05,827 --> 00:07:08,421 No, I don't think it's a good movie. 110 00:07:31,686 --> 00:07:33,881 I'm takin' a walk, Mrs. Brown. 111 00:07:36,224 --> 00:07:38,556 I am doing fine, dear, thank you. 112 00:07:52,574 --> 00:07:56,670 I rode my bicycle past your window last night 113 00:07:58,046 --> 00:08:02,813 I roller-skated to your door at daylight 114 00:08:03,551 --> 00:08:08,250 It almost seems like you're avoiding me 115 00:08:08,323 --> 00:08:10,814 These are some pictures 116 00:08:10,892 --> 00:08:13,520 or posters from some of the films I've done. 117 00:08:14,362 --> 00:08:18,196 Well, I got a brand new pair of roller-skates 118 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:19,665 You got a brand new key 119 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:21,725 Aren't they kind of cute? 120 00:08:21,836 --> 00:08:23,428 I think that we should get together 121 00:08:23,538 --> 00:08:28,134 A picture of Gerard, my son, when he was a lot younger, 122 00:08:28,643 --> 00:08:30,907 and my daughter when she was younger. 123 00:08:30,979 --> 00:08:32,879 You got something for me 124 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:36,781 Long before Deep Throat, Damiano was a family man. 125 00:08:36,851 --> 00:08:40,343 He and his wife ran a beauty salon in Queens, New York. 126 00:08:41,155 --> 00:08:43,646 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah# 127 00:08:43,725 --> 00:08:45,989 I enjoyed being a hairdresser 128 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:49,223 because I always could relate to women. 129 00:08:50,365 --> 00:08:52,560 After you got to know the woman, 130 00:08:52,634 --> 00:08:55,296 especially when you worked on them weekly, 131 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:57,634 you start to get into history 132 00:08:57,739 --> 00:09:00,264 about "we went to the movies" and "he did this and I did..." 133 00:09:00,375 --> 00:09:02,240 And realize that most... 134 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:04,301 most of the women were very unhappy 135 00:09:04,412 --> 00:09:06,539 in their relationship 136 00:09:06,614 --> 00:09:09,447 with the person that they were married to 137 00:09:09,517 --> 00:09:11,348 and supposedly in love with. 138 00:09:12,086 --> 00:09:15,317 After 40 years of marriage, you know, you can get 139 00:09:16,090 --> 00:09:18,422 tired of the good old in and out. 140 00:09:19,394 --> 00:09:22,124 You... you got to be intimate. It was almost like a priest. 141 00:09:22,196 --> 00:09:24,460 I mean, I... I don't wanna say I was a priest, 142 00:09:24,532 --> 00:09:27,057 but it was almost like... it was almost like a confessor. 143 00:09:27,468 --> 00:09:30,494 The confessions Damiano heard in his salon, 144 00:09:30,605 --> 00:09:34,405 made him realize he was on the frontlines of a sexual revolution. 145 00:09:37,712 --> 00:09:39,805 We grew up in a time 146 00:09:39,881 --> 00:09:43,078 in which sex itself was largely taboo. 147 00:09:43,818 --> 00:09:47,276 When I was a kid, young people didn't even know where babies came from. 148 00:09:47,355 --> 00:09:48,413 I'd love to know. 149 00:09:48,489 --> 00:09:51,424 If I watch the rest of this program, will I know the answer? 150 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,688 Gore Vidal would be very good on the subject. 151 00:09:56,197 --> 00:09:59,223 You must take into account how ignorant people are. 152 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:00,824 Particularly our countrymen, 153 00:10:00,902 --> 00:10:02,995 who have never taken a course in biology, 154 00:10:03,104 --> 00:10:04,332 never read a book. 155 00:10:04,973 --> 00:10:07,771 Do you know anything about the facts of life? 156 00:10:07,842 --> 00:10:09,810 Not very much, I'm afraid. 157 00:10:11,546 --> 00:10:14,344 The facts of life and sexual morality in general 158 00:10:14,415 --> 00:10:15,905 were forbidden topics. 159 00:10:15,984 --> 00:10:18,646 But as all that changed, issues about sexuality 160 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,779 began to divide society. 161 00:10:20,855 --> 00:10:24,188 Artificial contraception is wrong. 162 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,685 Evil. 163 00:10:25,860 --> 00:10:27,623 People were experimenting. 164 00:10:27,695 --> 00:10:29,424 They were looking for new kinds of lives. 165 00:10:29,497 --> 00:10:32,830 They were looking to break out of all the old molds. 166 00:10:37,438 --> 00:10:39,770 And we knew the American public were tired 167 00:10:39,841 --> 00:10:41,035 of words like "coitus." 168 00:10:41,142 --> 00:10:43,042 They wanted words, like "fuck," 169 00:10:43,111 --> 00:10:45,011 and "suck," and "eat my cunt." 170 00:10:46,114 --> 00:10:49,345 I think the more that filth is thrown at Americans 171 00:10:49,417 --> 00:10:51,112 the less favored it becomes. 172 00:10:53,421 --> 00:10:56,618 They're depicting sex in a very filthy way. 173 00:10:56,958 --> 00:10:58,858 Jackie Kennedy went to see that. 174 00:10:58,926 --> 00:11:00,655 The next week, the gross doubled. 175 00:11:02,563 --> 00:11:05,726 L... I don't mind seeing sex in a... in a movie just for its own sake 176 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,791 because I think that's one of the, you know, 177 00:11:07,869 --> 00:11:09,803 more interesting human emotions. 178 00:11:09,904 --> 00:11:12,896 Sex was in movies. Sex was on TV. 179 00:11:13,307 --> 00:11:15,434 Sex came out of the closet. 180 00:11:20,548 --> 00:11:23,540 You had to be there. You had to be there. 181 00:11:23,618 --> 00:11:25,643 I'm thrilled that I was there. 182 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,711 And thank God I had a camera with me. 183 00:11:27,789 --> 00:11:30,485 As the sexual revolution swept through society, 184 00:11:30,558 --> 00:11:33,686 people took sides in a culture war that was gathering steam. 185 00:11:33,761 --> 00:11:36,229 Gerry Damiano Joined the fray by swapping 186 00:11:36,297 --> 00:11:38,265 his blow dryer for a movie camera. 187 00:11:38,332 --> 00:11:41,233 I loved film. L... I always did. 188 00:11:41,302 --> 00:11:44,271 The only thing you could make was sex films. 189 00:11:44,338 --> 00:11:46,829 Uh, that was the only thing you were allowed to make 190 00:11:46,941 --> 00:11:48,909 and you made them at a low budget. 191 00:11:49,077 --> 00:11:53,514 Doing hardcore films in those days, the early '70s, 192 00:11:54,015 --> 00:11:57,007 was very much like summer stock. 193 00:11:58,019 --> 00:11:59,281 It was like, 194 00:11:59,353 --> 00:12:01,878 "Daddy has a barn, let's do a show." 195 00:12:03,558 --> 00:12:04,650 Oh, my! 196 00:12:04,726 --> 00:12:05,715 Oh! 197 00:12:07,895 --> 00:12:11,695 Lt... it was the only choice we had. 198 00:12:11,766 --> 00:12:14,496 Till 24 years old without, 199 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:18,568 you know, uh, uh, 200 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,300 what do you call it, uh, a track record, you know. 201 00:12:22,643 --> 00:12:25,111 And these things were so inexpensive. 202 00:12:25,213 --> 00:12:27,875 Okay, what I want now is some of your ass, 203 00:12:27,949 --> 00:12:29,075 all right? 204 00:12:29,383 --> 00:12:31,112 I meant business. 205 00:12:31,185 --> 00:12:33,483 I approached those films as if 206 00:12:34,856 --> 00:12:38,189 I was Luc Godard or somebody, you know. 207 00:12:38,493 --> 00:12:39,983 And just wiggle it towards us. 208 00:12:40,061 --> 00:12:43,258 I want to fill up 40 feet of screen with your ass. 209 00:12:46,167 --> 00:12:48,226 You're always after my ass. 210 00:12:48,970 --> 00:12:50,437 Keep wigglin'. 211 00:12:51,606 --> 00:12:53,767 That's where I met half of the people 212 00:12:53,875 --> 00:12:56,343 that I became acquainted with. 213 00:12:56,778 --> 00:12:58,245 We were all working for nothing. 214 00:12:58,346 --> 00:13:00,906 Well, one of Gerry's motivations 215 00:13:01,816 --> 00:13:03,215 was to get laid. 216 00:13:05,319 --> 00:13:07,787 Really. And he did. 217 00:13:09,690 --> 00:13:11,453 You could make a living 218 00:13:11,526 --> 00:13:14,324 if you were a filmmaker, making these films. 219 00:13:14,395 --> 00:13:17,523 Quite a number of people became legitimate Hollywood directors 220 00:13:17,598 --> 00:13:18,724 out of the porn industry. 221 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,394 I mean, for a while there, it was kinda like the entry level job 222 00:13:21,469 --> 00:13:22,766 that you would do. 223 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:25,134 Uh, you would work on... on porn. 224 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:28,799 I'm... I... I certainly worked on them. 225 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:31,401 I'm not gonna say which ones, but I... I was around it. 226 00:13:31,512 --> 00:13:33,446 All of sudden, there was a new word. 227 00:13:33,514 --> 00:13:35,505 It was called "filmmaker." 228 00:13:35,783 --> 00:13:38,684 You became an independent filmmaker. 229 00:13:39,387 --> 00:13:42,049 We were actually doing it 230 00:13:42,123 --> 00:13:43,852 And we couldn't believe it. 231 00:13:43,925 --> 00:13:46,325 We couldn't believe it, and thank God there was, 232 00:13:46,394 --> 00:13:48,157 there was such a thing as sex. 233 00:13:49,363 --> 00:13:51,558 There was sex, but at the time, 234 00:13:51,632 --> 00:13:54,567 the only way to put hardcore sex on the screen legally, 235 00:13:54,635 --> 00:13:56,466 was in sex education films. 236 00:13:59,807 --> 00:14:02,139 My name is Dr. Morris Rosengarden. 237 00:14:02,210 --> 00:14:04,110 They would show sexual scenes, 238 00:14:04,178 --> 00:14:06,009 but they couldn't be accused of pornography 239 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,707 because it had an educational value. 240 00:14:16,357 --> 00:14:18,325 Some men find their wives' buttocks 241 00:14:18,392 --> 00:14:20,451 very stimulating visually. 242 00:14:21,162 --> 00:14:24,256 We needed a father figure for almost everything. 243 00:14:26,234 --> 00:14:27,792 This may be uncomfortable 244 00:14:27,869 --> 00:14:30,599 for the obese or older couples. 245 00:14:33,541 --> 00:14:36,772 Why did you need a doctor to tell you it was okay? 246 00:14:36,844 --> 00:14:38,277 And I said, 247 00:14:38,346 --> 00:14:40,974 "Hey, instead of discussing not doing it, 248 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:43,676 let's do it and don't even discuss it." 249 00:14:43,885 --> 00:14:46,285 There's nothing to be ashamed of. 250 00:14:48,155 --> 00:14:50,248 But there was plenty to be afraid of. 251 00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:53,816 In addition to running the risk of arrest and incarceration, 252 00:14:53,895 --> 00:14:55,920 the criminal underworid virtually controlled 253 00:14:55,997 --> 00:14:57,897 the production of pornography. 254 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:09,366 There was something exciting about it. 255 00:15:09,477 --> 00:15:12,742 It... it lived in some, uh, mid-worid 256 00:15:12,813 --> 00:15:14,246 between crime and art 257 00:15:15,149 --> 00:15:16,980 and it was adventurous. 258 00:15:23,190 --> 00:15:26,785 Young people today would be in it for the money 259 00:15:26,861 --> 00:15:29,955 whereas in the old days, it was for the rebellion. 260 00:15:32,867 --> 00:15:34,926 Frankly, everybody in one way or another 261 00:15:35,002 --> 00:15:36,401 was connected to that business 262 00:15:36,504 --> 00:15:39,905 because psychologically, socially, it was happening. 263 00:15:40,141 --> 00:15:42,302 You know, it was part of a social movement 264 00:15:42,410 --> 00:15:43,342 at the time. 265 00:15:43,411 --> 00:15:45,379 Anybody who took chances 266 00:15:45,446 --> 00:15:47,812 in breaking the social mores of the time, 267 00:15:47,882 --> 00:15:49,850 was considered a hero. 268 00:15:51,419 --> 00:15:52,716 I believed in it. 269 00:15:52,787 --> 00:15:55,415 I believed that it was about time to say 270 00:15:55,489 --> 00:15:57,184 that sex is a beautiful thing, 271 00:15:57,258 --> 00:15:58,816 the human body is a beautiful thing, 272 00:15:58,893 --> 00:16:00,622 and you really shouldn't be ashamed of it. 273 00:16:01,062 --> 00:16:03,223 Securing financial backing from partners 274 00:16:03,297 --> 00:16:04,594 with underworid connections, 275 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:08,101 Damiano raised enough money to shoot a hardcore sex feature. 276 00:16:08,169 --> 00:16:11,229 It was going to be called The Doctor Makes a House Call. 277 00:16:11,339 --> 00:16:13,034 Then Damiano met his muse, 278 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:15,904 Linda Lovelace, and everything changed. 279 00:16:23,517 --> 00:16:27,078 To me, I always looked at her as the girl next door. 280 00:16:34,261 --> 00:16:37,526 Before she became worid-famous as Linda Lovelace, 281 00:16:37,598 --> 00:16:40,863 Linda Boreman dreamt of opening a clothing boutique 282 00:16:40,935 --> 00:16:43,335 until she met Chuck Traynor. 283 00:16:45,973 --> 00:16:48,635 I guess he was an escape for her. 284 00:16:49,043 --> 00:16:52,342 She was not comfortable living in her parents' home. 285 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:55,244 And he took her away from that. 286 00:16:58,019 --> 00:17:00,579 But things started getting strange. 287 00:17:02,023 --> 00:17:04,753 Linda told me that she had quit smoking, 288 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:08,687 and I said, "Well, how did you do it, how did you quit?" 289 00:17:08,763 --> 00:17:11,630 She said that Chuck had hypnotized her. 290 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,325 She said every time she tried to have a cigarette, 291 00:17:15,436 --> 00:17:17,563 that she would hiccup. 292 00:17:17,671 --> 00:17:19,662 I'm like, "Oh, well, okay." 293 00:17:20,408 --> 00:17:23,241 Within a year, they were married. 294 00:17:25,112 --> 00:17:27,603 I curse the day that she ever met 295 00:17:27,815 --> 00:17:29,305 Chuck Traynor. 296 00:17:30,618 --> 00:17:33,815 Unfortunately, he died before I could kill him, 297 00:17:33,888 --> 00:17:35,082 so lucky for him. 298 00:17:40,227 --> 00:17:44,163 Then I lost contact and her mother told me that 299 00:17:44,231 --> 00:17:47,132 uh, they're living in New York and he's doing 300 00:17:47,201 --> 00:17:48,725 documentary films, 301 00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:52,530 and I thought, "How nice, how exciting." 302 00:18:03,717 --> 00:18:06,242 Chuck had come to my office 303 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,311 and I needed a scene for another film. 304 00:18:08,389 --> 00:18:10,983 He says, "Well, Linda can do something." 305 00:18:11,058 --> 00:18:13,253 You know, she... There was no name for it. 306 00:18:13,327 --> 00:18:15,989 He says, "She gives head very well." 307 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:18,029 I said, "Well, that's wonderful." 308 00:18:18,099 --> 00:18:20,624 So we set up with her and an actor 309 00:18:20,901 --> 00:18:23,199 to do a... a bit for another film. 310 00:18:25,239 --> 00:18:28,504 And when I saw what she could do, 311 00:18:28,576 --> 00:18:31,602 I says, "Stop the cameras." 312 00:18:45,226 --> 00:18:47,888 All I could think about was what she was doing 313 00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:49,088 was so unique 314 00:18:49,163 --> 00:18:51,961 that I could build a whole film around it. 315 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:59,437 Making a motion picture specifically about that sexual act, 316 00:19:00,074 --> 00:19:02,838 l... I found very daring and very courageous. 317 00:19:04,211 --> 00:19:07,476 The first thing that came to my mind was... was the title 318 00:19:07,548 --> 00:19:09,482 of Deep, Deep Throat. 319 00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:13,247 Because something happened deep down in... in her throat. 320 00:19:15,823 --> 00:19:19,486 What? The clitoris is in her throat? 321 00:19:22,963 --> 00:19:24,555 Gerry, you can't do this. 322 00:19:26,133 --> 00:19:29,432 You can't do this. It's absurd, it's silly. 323 00:19:29,537 --> 00:19:31,437 Nobody will believe it. 324 00:19:32,139 --> 00:19:33,572 I thought it was, 325 00:19:37,378 --> 00:19:39,175 You know, 326 00:19:40,781 --> 00:19:43,375 absurd. I did. 327 00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:46,510 Believe it or not, some people said, "What is this, a medical film? 328 00:19:46,587 --> 00:19:49,181 What are you gonna do? With doctors?" 329 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:51,523 I said, "No. No." 330 00:19:51,692 --> 00:19:53,990 Somebody said it should be The Sword Swallower. 331 00:19:54,061 --> 00:19:57,224 I said, "No, no. Deep Throat, believe me, it'll work. It'll work." 332 00:19:57,998 --> 00:19:59,295 And, uh, 333 00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:03,935 I'm glad I didn't change it to The Sword Swallower. 334 00:20:06,974 --> 00:20:09,670 I, kind of, had the whole thing 335 00:20:09,743 --> 00:20:12,644 in... in my head driving over the 59th Street Bridge. 336 00:20:12,713 --> 00:20:15,079 That weekend, I wrote the script 337 00:20:15,149 --> 00:20:16,946 and we... we were ready to do it. 338 00:20:20,921 --> 00:20:23,617 And I spoke to my production manager, 339 00:20:23,691 --> 00:20:24,885 Ronnie Wertheim. 340 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:33,292 The phone rang. It was Gerry. All excited. 341 00:20:33,367 --> 00:20:36,768 And I told him to bring all our cast and crew 342 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:39,862 down to Florida. We're going to make the film. 343 00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:44,002 I just called, uh, Harry Reems. 344 00:20:44,111 --> 00:20:46,306 He came as a production assistant. 345 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:48,507 He wasn't even supposed to be in the film. 346 00:20:53,554 --> 00:20:55,613 When we got to Florida, we all checked into 347 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:58,624 this, uh, motel, I think it was called The Voyager. 348 00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:02,492 As we pulled in, we saw Linda Lovelace 349 00:21:04,131 --> 00:21:06,190 lying on the lawn with her... 350 00:21:06,267 --> 00:21:08,292 You know what her pussycat's name was? 351 00:21:09,203 --> 00:21:12,172 Adolf Hitler. He had a mustache like that. 352 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:21,104 We came from New York 353 00:21:21,181 --> 00:21:24,048 with the promise of having locations. 354 00:21:27,755 --> 00:21:29,689 To me, it was nothing. 355 00:21:29,757 --> 00:21:33,488 I thought nothing of it. I thought it was just a... a piece of shit film. 356 00:21:34,228 --> 00:21:37,129 Probably one of the worst porno movies ever made. 357 00:21:37,865 --> 00:21:41,028 He's nuts. Lenny Camp was nuts. 358 00:21:41,101 --> 00:21:44,093 He was one of the guys that were lining up everything for us. 359 00:21:44,171 --> 00:21:46,139 And, uh, we got nothing. 360 00:21:48,309 --> 00:21:49,867 If it wasn't for us, 361 00:21:49,977 --> 00:21:51,911 this guy would look like a piece of shit, 362 00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:53,241 which he really is. 363 00:21:54,381 --> 00:21:57,441 The only thing that saved us, I said, "Wait a minute, 364 00:21:57,518 --> 00:22:00,419 "we're at The Voyager Motel, let's go back and shoot 365 00:22:00,487 --> 00:22:02,853 what we were supposed to do here in the pool. " 366 00:22:02,923 --> 00:22:05,517 From that moment on, everybody was location hunting. 367 00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:08,493 One of the locations that we shot at down in Florida, 368 00:22:08,562 --> 00:22:11,929 was at this, uh, home in Coconut Grove 369 00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:15,797 that was owned by a guy who called himself a count. 370 00:22:15,869 --> 00:22:18,099 He's not a count. He's a horseshit count. 371 00:22:18,205 --> 00:22:20,799 He is no count, he's fucking Sepy Dobronyi. 372 00:22:20,908 --> 00:22:23,502 And God knows if that's his real name. 373 00:22:31,185 --> 00:22:33,483 When we came, they had this elaborate, 374 00:22:33,554 --> 00:22:35,488 elaborate, elaborate wine cellar. 375 00:22:35,756 --> 00:22:37,519 Should we go to the wine cellar? 376 00:22:37,591 --> 00:22:38,751 Yes. 377 00:22:40,194 --> 00:22:44,597 Yeah, Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah 378 00:22:46,633 --> 00:22:51,593 Yeah, Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah 379 00:22:54,408 --> 00:22:56,000 Yeah, Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah# 380 00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:12,684 If it was planned, it would not have been as exciting, 381 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,161 'cause we were just rushing from one place to another. 382 00:23:16,964 --> 00:23:18,295 You all right? 383 00:23:18,365 --> 00:23:20,094 Yeah, I'm fine, what makes you say that? 384 00:23:20,167 --> 00:23:21,998 You, the way you're acting. 385 00:23:22,069 --> 00:23:24,094 In the very beginning, there were no 386 00:23:24,204 --> 00:23:26,331 porno actors and actresses. 387 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,534 So everybody had to be taught. 388 00:23:29,643 --> 00:23:31,543 The actors are all shit. 389 00:23:31,612 --> 00:23:33,807 Not... not taught in the sense of taught. 390 00:23:33,881 --> 00:23:35,712 Taught how to be natural. 391 00:23:35,983 --> 00:23:37,143 Sex, 392 00:23:37,651 --> 00:23:40,347 it makes me feel sort of tingly all over. 393 00:23:40,421 --> 00:23:41,445 And then... 394 00:23:41,522 --> 00:23:42,580 And then what? 395 00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:43,714 Nothing. 396 00:23:43,791 --> 00:23:46,954 I mean, there should be more to sex than a lot of little tingles. 397 00:23:47,027 --> 00:23:48,824 There should be bells ringing, 398 00:23:48,896 --> 00:23:51,558 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 399 00:23:51,632 --> 00:23:53,998 Do you want to get off or do you want to wreck a city? 400 00:23:54,067 --> 00:23:55,830 Helen, please, be serious. 401 00:23:55,903 --> 00:23:57,768 Gerry knew nothing about it. 402 00:23:57,871 --> 00:24:01,807 He knew nothing about acting, he knew nothing about, um... 403 00:24:02,843 --> 00:24:05,311 He knew nothing. He knew nothing. 404 00:24:05,379 --> 00:24:07,711 But as a swinger himself, 405 00:24:07,781 --> 00:24:10,249 he had a feel for how to get people 406 00:24:10,317 --> 00:24:11,477 in a sexual mood. 407 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:14,444 Do you wanna touch me? 408 00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:19,322 Do you wanna touch me? Do you wanna touch me? Yeah# 409 00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:23,056 The really important thing was Harry Reems. 410 00:24:23,664 --> 00:24:26,098 I couldn't find anybody in Florida 411 00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:28,726 that could even come close to doing the role. 412 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:31,828 So at one point, I fired him off the crew, 413 00:24:33,207 --> 00:24:35,835 And hired him as the lead, and thank God he was there, 414 00:24:35,943 --> 00:24:38,411 because I... I don't know of anybody 415 00:24:39,112 --> 00:24:41,603 that could have even come close to doing 416 00:24:41,682 --> 00:24:43,411 the job that he did, 417 00:24:43,884 --> 00:24:45,283 as... as the wacky doctor. 418 00:24:45,352 --> 00:24:46,979 I want to hear bells. 419 00:24:47,054 --> 00:24:48,214 Bells? 420 00:24:48,288 --> 00:24:49,516 Bombs. Bombs? 421 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:51,080 And dams bursting. 422 00:24:51,158 --> 00:24:52,420 The rockets' red glare. 423 00:24:52,526 --> 00:24:55,689 No, he's not an actor, he knows that. 424 00:24:58,031 --> 00:24:59,521 Bombs bursting in air. 425 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,263 Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there# 426 00:25:03,604 --> 00:25:06,004 He... he would get an erection 427 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,440 at the sound of the camera motor. 428 00:25:11,812 --> 00:25:13,279 That explains a lot. 429 00:25:15,349 --> 00:25:18,284 You know, I... I, uh, I never had a problem 430 00:25:18,919 --> 00:25:21,114 um, getting an erection. 431 00:25:21,421 --> 00:25:26,381 Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah# 432 00:25:26,827 --> 00:25:29,318 Linda had the hots for Harry Reems. 433 00:25:29,396 --> 00:25:31,864 And the morning we were gonna do 434 00:25:31,932 --> 00:25:34,230 the deep throat scene, 435 00:25:34,401 --> 00:25:37,097 she came to me and she was very upset, 436 00:25:37,237 --> 00:25:38,261 and she says, 437 00:25:38,372 --> 00:25:41,398 "Chuck is... is... is so jealous of Harry Reems 438 00:25:41,775 --> 00:25:44,107 that I don't think I can do a good job. " 439 00:25:44,177 --> 00:25:46,611 Chuck was a member of our crew. 440 00:25:47,147 --> 00:25:49,012 Production manager sent him to... 441 00:25:49,082 --> 00:25:51,710 Uh, we said we're running out of film. 442 00:25:52,019 --> 00:25:54,078 So he went to Miami to buy film 443 00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:55,746 when we shot the scene, 444 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:59,883 Linda was completely relaxed, and she did a marvelous job. 445 00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:24,509 Uh, when I saw her do that, yes, it is kind of amazing. 446 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,514 Kind of amazing. It really is. 447 00:26:28,422 --> 00:26:30,982 Surprised? I was flabbergasted. 448 00:26:31,058 --> 00:26:32,355 I had no idea. 449 00:26:39,099 --> 00:26:41,624 This was the moment that heterosexual film 450 00:26:41,702 --> 00:26:44,068 became interested in blowjobs. 451 00:26:44,171 --> 00:26:46,605 I mean, it's not that fellatio didn't exist. 452 00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:49,665 Certainly, you see fellatio in stag films. 453 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:54,176 Um, but you don't get this fellatio 454 00:26:54,247 --> 00:26:56,044 as figured as 455 00:26:56,116 --> 00:26:58,482 the be-all and end-all, 456 00:26:58,552 --> 00:27:00,543 as the absolute pleasure. 457 00:27:00,621 --> 00:27:02,452 The thing that you have to remember 458 00:27:02,522 --> 00:27:04,456 about fellatio is, 459 00:27:04,524 --> 00:27:07,425 historically, it had been considered illegal 460 00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:10,054 and referred to as the abominable, 461 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:12,223 detestable crimes against nature. 462 00:27:12,299 --> 00:27:14,494 Deep throat was not a term 463 00:27:14,568 --> 00:27:18,026 that my girlfriends and I really knew anything about. 464 00:27:18,105 --> 00:27:21,472 Most of us had never even heard of oral sex or how to perform it. 465 00:27:21,541 --> 00:27:23,065 And people who wouldn't have dreamed 466 00:27:23,176 --> 00:27:25,371 of going near that sort of matter 467 00:27:25,445 --> 00:27:27,743 in the '40s and '50s, and certainly in the '30s, 468 00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:30,374 because that was dirty, that was low sex, that was dreadful, 469 00:27:30,450 --> 00:27:32,782 began to see it as an enrichment. 470 00:27:32,853 --> 00:27:35,219 And I'll just mention that ejaculate, 471 00:27:35,389 --> 00:27:37,823 I've always known, was good for the complexion. 472 00:27:37,891 --> 00:27:41,190 It's full of babies, its... it's full of protein, 473 00:27:41,261 --> 00:27:43,695 it's full of, uh, plasma. 474 00:27:43,764 --> 00:27:46,756 And to rub it all over your face and neck and chest, 475 00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,892 a lot of women know that that's a good thing to do, 476 00:27:48,969 --> 00:27:50,960 not for him but for you. 477 00:27:54,141 --> 00:27:56,871 Gerry returned to New York to edit his film. 478 00:27:56,943 --> 00:27:58,877 But there was still one thing he needed. 479 00:27:58,979 --> 00:28:02,676 A mind-blowing cinematic female orgasm: 480 00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,416 Proof of the success of Linda's quest 481 00:28:05,485 --> 00:28:07,214 for sexual satisfaction. 482 00:28:12,259 --> 00:28:14,921 People didn't understand that women, 483 00:28:15,162 --> 00:28:17,596 uh, could have as much... 484 00:28:18,365 --> 00:28:20,356 feel as much pleasure as men did. 485 00:28:20,434 --> 00:28:22,994 Somehow, nobody ever acknowledged 486 00:28:23,103 --> 00:28:25,333 there was such a thing as an orgasm for a woman. 487 00:28:25,439 --> 00:28:27,373 That was all male stuff. 488 00:28:31,044 --> 00:28:33,137 It is harder to show female pleasure. 489 00:28:33,213 --> 00:28:35,306 It's harder to show female pleasure, 490 00:28:35,382 --> 00:28:38,374 and to believe that it's actually happening. 491 00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:41,149 That's why I wanted to show it. 492 00:28:42,656 --> 00:28:45,090 I went to the film archives 493 00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,352 in... in Washington 494 00:28:46,426 --> 00:28:48,951 and got footage of a rocket 495 00:28:49,463 --> 00:28:52,523 and then did subliminal cutting with... with the rocket 496 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,499 and... and Linda, back and forth. 497 00:28:57,571 --> 00:29:00,540 This is a male fantasy that says: 498 00:29:00,974 --> 00:29:02,908 "I like to have my cock sucked. 499 00:29:02,976 --> 00:29:06,935 I really get off on it, therefore she must, too." 500 00:29:12,552 --> 00:29:14,452 I think that was a hell of a shot. 501 00:29:18,625 --> 00:29:21,423 Look, men want to believe 502 00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:23,588 that the clitoris is in a woman's throat. 503 00:29:23,663 --> 00:29:26,496 Because if they believe that the clitoris is in a woman's throat, 504 00:29:26,566 --> 00:29:28,625 then they can believe that by thrusting 505 00:29:28,702 --> 00:29:30,636 their penis into a woman's mouth, 506 00:29:30,737 --> 00:29:33,262 she gets as much pleasure as they do. 507 00:29:33,373 --> 00:29:35,841 Guess what? It's not true. 508 00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:39,403 Uh, you know, l... I guess, uh, 509 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,143 Deep Throat opened up a... a, uh, a can of worms. 510 00:29:47,687 --> 00:29:51,783 Get down, get down, get down, get down 511 00:29:52,793 --> 00:29:54,886 When hardcore pornography is permitted 512 00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:56,519 to corrupt the minds of children, 513 00:29:56,596 --> 00:29:59,497 then the time has come for new moral leadership 514 00:29:59,566 --> 00:30:01,295 to make itself felt in America. 515 00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:07,572 Before Deep Throat was even shot, 516 00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:11,077 politics and pornography were on a collision course. 517 00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:15,505 In 1968, the government launched a scientific commission 518 00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:19,382 to determine if pornography really was harmful. 519 00:30:19,486 --> 00:30:21,078 Jungle Boogie 520 00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:23,987 Jungle Boogie, Get it on 521 00:30:27,294 --> 00:30:28,727 Get it on# 522 00:30:28,795 --> 00:30:31,662 Well, today, the final results were published. 523 00:30:31,731 --> 00:30:33,858 The presidential commission recommended doing away 524 00:30:33,934 --> 00:30:36,129 with most of the laws that cover pornography, 525 00:30:36,203 --> 00:30:38,603 because they don't seem to be doing much good, 526 00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:42,368 and because pornography doesn't seem to do much harm to the adult mind. 527 00:30:43,577 --> 00:30:47,013 For one brief shining moment, it did look like 528 00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:49,141 society was going to become 529 00:30:49,216 --> 00:30:52,413 a little more adult about their sexuality. 530 00:30:53,954 --> 00:30:56,013 But committee member Charles Keating, 531 00:30:56,089 --> 00:30:57,716 appointed by President Nixon, 532 00:30:57,791 --> 00:30:59,486 fought to dismiss the findings. 533 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,255 Obscenity does indeed effect. 534 00:31:02,329 --> 00:31:05,423 The effect it has is detrimental to society. 535 00:31:05,765 --> 00:31:09,394 Charles Keating was a notorious censorship bug. 536 00:31:09,469 --> 00:31:12,233 Later on, of course, we discovered he was a good deal more. 537 00:31:12,339 --> 00:31:15,775 He was a swindler and went to prison. 538 00:31:15,842 --> 00:31:19,073 The president said today, "So long as I am in the White House, 539 00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:21,340 "there will be no relaxation of the national effort 540 00:31:21,414 --> 00:31:23,644 to control and eliminate smut. " 541 00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:25,751 Then Nixon persuaded the Senate 542 00:31:25,819 --> 00:31:29,016 to reject the report, suppressing its findings. 543 00:31:29,456 --> 00:31:30,980 Everybody forgot about 544 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:34,026 the President's commission on pornography, 545 00:31:34,094 --> 00:31:35,789 because they... they didn't come out 546 00:31:35,862 --> 00:31:38,092 with the answer they were looking for. 547 00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:41,531 Instead, Nixon got reelected, 548 00:31:41,601 --> 00:31:44,229 after being declared politically dead, 549 00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:46,805 and the forces of repression came in, 550 00:31:46,907 --> 00:31:49,967 in a huge, huge way. 551 00:31:51,144 --> 00:31:53,738 He knew all the buttons to press. 552 00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:54,780 Sodomy... 553 00:31:58,485 --> 00:32:01,613 I mean, everybody starts to vibrate like a gong. 554 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:09,991 We lie about human sexuality, because we're taught to lie about everything. 555 00:32:10,530 --> 00:32:13,363 When you have a nation that totally lies, 556 00:32:13,633 --> 00:32:15,260 then you have no reality. 557 00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,338 The message was clear: 558 00:32:20,407 --> 00:32:22,204 Cleaning up porn was good politics. 559 00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:25,073 And what better place to start than Times Square, 560 00:32:25,145 --> 00:32:27,113 the nation's capital of sleaze 561 00:32:27,247 --> 00:32:29,238 and the site of Deep Throat's premiere 562 00:32:29,316 --> 00:32:31,944 in June 1972. 563 00:32:40,593 --> 00:32:42,686 A good many of the so-called perverts 564 00:32:42,762 --> 00:32:44,320 are attracted to 42nd Street 565 00:32:44,397 --> 00:32:45,864 and we've had complaints. 566 00:32:46,967 --> 00:32:48,730 Superfly# 567 00:32:53,907 --> 00:32:57,365 Suddenly, I see a movie that knocks my socks off. 568 00:32:57,477 --> 00:32:58,842 And here's the wonderful thing: 569 00:32:58,912 --> 00:33:01,642 This film, Deep Throat, is funny. 570 00:33:02,282 --> 00:33:05,979 And Linda's a wonderful, wonderful cocksucker. 571 00:33:06,686 --> 00:33:09,086 God, I wish my wives could suck dick like that. 572 00:33:10,123 --> 00:33:12,455 And I give it 100 points on the Peter-Meter. 573 00:33:12,525 --> 00:33:15,221 "Peter" means how many hard-ons do I get. 574 00:33:15,362 --> 00:33:18,024 Now it would take 5,000 Viagra 575 00:33:18,098 --> 00:33:19,190 to get me hard, 576 00:33:19,265 --> 00:33:23,167 but then I'm virile and young and I get many hard-ons. 577 00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:27,028 New Yorkers greet it with the same enthusiasm as I did. 578 00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:29,073 It was a joy. 579 00:33:29,142 --> 00:33:31,872 As we say in Israel, it was a mitzvah. 580 00:33:34,047 --> 00:33:36,641 I have the privilege of announcing 581 00:33:36,716 --> 00:33:39,844 the formation of the Times Square Development Council. 582 00:33:40,887 --> 00:33:42,878 Deep Throat was the perfect target 583 00:33:42,956 --> 00:33:45,481 for New York's campaign to clean up porn 584 00:33:45,558 --> 00:33:47,526 and the police moved in. 585 00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:55,525 I first became aware of Deep Throat 586 00:33:55,602 --> 00:33:58,036 when it was, uh, it was advertised in the papers. 587 00:33:59,739 --> 00:34:02,299 It was the talk of the office, you know, "Look at this." 588 00:34:05,245 --> 00:34:07,008 Being in the industry, so to speak, 589 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,547 we all ran out to see it. 590 00:34:09,949 --> 00:34:11,541 It was stunning. 591 00:34:13,053 --> 00:34:16,545 The cinematography, for a porno movie, was very good. 592 00:34:16,623 --> 00:34:17,681 The movie was funny. 593 00:34:17,757 --> 00:34:20,851 It had the kind of lines in it, uh, that were amusing. 594 00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:24,625 Mind if I smoke while you're eating? 595 00:34:24,697 --> 00:34:26,255 No, not at all. 596 00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:32,504 It was definitely a change of pace, 597 00:34:32,572 --> 00:34:34,062 definitely a change of pace. 598 00:34:36,376 --> 00:34:39,345 We knew that this was, uh, this was something different. 599 00:34:39,412 --> 00:34:44,145 Love, love is strange# 600 00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,686 I think they picked on Deep Throat 601 00:34:47,754 --> 00:34:50,188 because it was the highest profile. 602 00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:53,555 If they could, uh, successfully prosecute Deep Throat, 603 00:34:53,626 --> 00:34:55,526 uh, then they felt that 604 00:34:55,595 --> 00:34:57,426 the other prosecutions would be easier. 605 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,735 Not once, not twice, but three times 606 00:35:03,837 --> 00:35:05,464 the police raided Deep Throat, 607 00:35:05,572 --> 00:35:08,336 staging their final raid for the cameras. 608 00:35:11,611 --> 00:35:13,203 This was political. 609 00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:16,407 If nobody records the arrest, 610 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:18,577 then nobody will know 611 00:35:18,651 --> 00:35:21,814 that they are doing their job in fighting sin. 612 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:25,488 Do you... you consider what you're running pornographic, sir? 613 00:35:25,725 --> 00:35:27,192 If it was pornographic, 614 00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,888 they could prosecute in a diligent, proper manner. 615 00:35:29,963 --> 00:35:33,023 They wouldn't have to come around in hoards of 50 616 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:35,358 and take signs out of windows 617 00:35:35,702 --> 00:35:38,193 and act like the Gestapo of old. 618 00:35:39,072 --> 00:35:44,009 This theater that had not done $5,000 a week in 20 years, 619 00:35:45,311 --> 00:35:48,872 was running virtually 20 hours a day. 620 00:35:49,616 --> 00:35:51,049 It never stopped running. 621 00:35:51,484 --> 00:35:53,509 The owners really couldn't afford to shut it down. 622 00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:54,951 They didn't want to shut it down. 623 00:35:55,021 --> 00:35:58,218 And so, uh, there... there was going to be a trial. 624 00:36:05,465 --> 00:36:08,161 Deep Throat's defense produced expert witnesses 625 00:36:08,234 --> 00:36:12,193 to argue that the film was more enlightening than merely obscene. 626 00:36:24,884 --> 00:36:26,977 But the prosecution countered 627 00:36:27,053 --> 00:36:30,216 that this sexual satisfaction was dangerous to women 628 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:33,885 because Deep Throat emphasized the wrong kind of orgasm: 629 00:36:34,394 --> 00:36:36,191 The clitoral orgasm. 630 00:36:37,163 --> 00:36:40,132 I remember that the judge hadn't heard the term. 631 00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:42,765 And, uh, so he expressed surprise 632 00:36:42,835 --> 00:36:44,598 and asked the question, "What's that?" 633 00:36:47,307 --> 00:36:51,368 Here, just outside and above the vaginal opening 634 00:36:52,078 --> 00:36:54,410 Is the clitoris. 635 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:12,696 The clitoris. 636 00:37:12,765 --> 00:37:15,199 He should have been sitting in my classes 637 00:37:15,268 --> 00:37:18,431 because he would have heard me say loud and clear 638 00:37:18,671 --> 00:37:21,333 that let's get away from that idea, 639 00:37:21,441 --> 00:37:23,238 which still some people have, 640 00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:26,278 that, uh, a vaginal orgasm 641 00:37:26,379 --> 00:37:29,246 is, um, more satisfying for a woman 642 00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:31,510 than a clitoral orgasm. No such thing. 643 00:37:32,552 --> 00:37:35,715 At that time, a real orgasm could only happen 644 00:37:35,788 --> 00:37:37,153 if you were with a man 645 00:37:37,223 --> 00:37:39,555 and his penis was inside of you 646 00:37:39,626 --> 00:37:43,528 and that was total, utter nonsense, of course. 647 00:37:45,398 --> 00:37:48,458 Sex is not only for penises. 648 00:37:48,534 --> 00:37:51,526 Uh, sex is something for women. 649 00:37:51,604 --> 00:37:53,299 The clitoris. 650 00:37:53,406 --> 00:37:55,067 This tiny organ, 651 00:37:55,174 --> 00:37:57,768 about the size and shape of a garden pea, 652 00:37:58,244 --> 00:38:00,974 is the seat of sexuality in women. 653 00:38:02,148 --> 00:38:05,515 I think the judge learned a lot during the trial 654 00:38:05,952 --> 00:38:08,887 as I... Look, l... I certainly did myself. 655 00:38:11,557 --> 00:38:13,752 As the judge retired to consider his verdict, 656 00:38:13,826 --> 00:38:15,726 ticket sales almost doubled, 657 00:38:15,795 --> 00:38:19,322 prompting a young reporter from the New York Times to write an article 658 00:38:19,399 --> 00:38:22,493 that would give the film mainstream legitimacy. 659 00:38:23,002 --> 00:38:25,061 I remember writing the article. 660 00:38:25,171 --> 00:38:27,264 Uh, the... the headline was "Porno chic." 661 00:38:27,373 --> 00:38:29,364 I wrote it on a typewriter. 662 00:38:31,544 --> 00:38:33,739 People look at the Times as a validator. 663 00:38:33,813 --> 00:38:36,680 And they see, if... if the Times can write about Deep Throat, 664 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:38,478 well, then it must be safe in some way. 665 00:38:41,254 --> 00:38:43,245 The week the article hit the stands, 666 00:38:43,323 --> 00:38:45,314 the film's box office soared 667 00:38:45,391 --> 00:38:48,827 as people rushed to see the film in record numbers. 668 00:38:51,531 --> 00:38:54,500 Approximately how many people have seen Deep Throat? 669 00:38:54,567 --> 00:38:57,661 Approximately 1,700 people a day have been in to see the film. 670 00:38:59,739 --> 00:39:01,707 Are you looking forward to this movie? 671 00:39:01,808 --> 00:39:02,866 Yes, I am. 672 00:39:02,975 --> 00:39:06,069 People from Central Park West and Fifth Avenue and Park Avenue 673 00:39:06,145 --> 00:39:08,579 wanted to go down and see it and go slumming. 674 00:39:09,682 --> 00:39:12,981 There was a private showing. Before I knew what happened, 675 00:39:13,052 --> 00:39:16,021 there was, like, group sex happening, left, right, and center. 676 00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:24,557 Since this is supposed to be it of its genre, 677 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:27,326 and since it's had this piece in the New York Times, 678 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,527 I might as well see it if it's going. 679 00:39:31,304 --> 00:39:33,067 What are you expecting to see? 680 00:39:33,172 --> 00:39:34,264 Well, uh, 681 00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:37,605 you might close me down if I said what I was going to say. 682 00:39:38,945 --> 00:39:42,904 It took porn out of the realm of the forbidden. 683 00:39:42,982 --> 00:39:44,950 Why, there's nothing wrong with a normal man 684 00:39:45,017 --> 00:39:46,780 going to a pornographic movie. 685 00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:49,083 Normal, all right, but why were you there? 686 00:39:49,155 --> 00:39:50,782 You would see movie stars there. 687 00:39:50,857 --> 00:39:52,449 You would see society people there. 688 00:39:55,027 --> 00:39:58,326 I went to see Deep Throat because I'm fond of animal pictures. 689 00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:02,196 I thought it was about giraffes. 690 00:40:05,605 --> 00:40:08,369 90 percent of the people there are asthmatics. 691 00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:09,873 What do you mean, asthmatics? 692 00:40:09,942 --> 00:40:11,136 'Cause all I could hear was... 693 00:40:13,379 --> 00:40:14,846 People weren't jerking off 694 00:40:15,548 --> 00:40:18,813 when, you know, I don't know who's sitting next to Angela Lansbury. 695 00:40:18,885 --> 00:40:20,910 Oh, I'm just picking her out, but... but basically, 696 00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,921 because she'd just put a damper on things. 697 00:40:22,989 --> 00:40:25,116 What did you say the name of that movie was? 698 00:40:25,191 --> 00:40:26,419 Uh, Deep Threat. 699 00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:28,892 You'd better hurry up before you miss the opening 700 00:40:28,961 --> 00:40:30,690 'cause you don't wanna miss the opening. 701 00:40:30,763 --> 00:40:32,321 In the opening, Linda... 702 00:40:37,703 --> 00:40:39,398 Deep Throat was so successful 703 00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:41,598 that it turned Linda Lovelace from an unknown 704 00:40:41,707 --> 00:40:45,268 into a celebrity and poster-child for the new porn chic. 705 00:40:49,348 --> 00:40:51,748 I made $1,200 for Deep Throat. 706 00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:53,377 And that's all? 707 00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:54,852 Yeah. 708 00:40:54,921 --> 00:40:55,979 What about... 709 00:40:56,055 --> 00:40:59,547 I'm, you know, now I'm known, so it's okay. 710 00:41:03,296 --> 00:41:05,230 It was about 11:00 at night 711 00:41:05,298 --> 00:41:07,664 and we were watching television. 712 00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:11,992 And we saw this theater and it said, 713 00:41:12,772 --> 00:41:15,969 you know, Linda Lovelace, Deep Throat or whatever it was. 714 00:41:16,342 --> 00:41:19,869 And, uh, I said, "Oh, disgusting. 715 00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,778 Absolutely disgusting." 716 00:41:23,015 --> 00:41:24,744 A girlfriend of mine called and said, 717 00:41:24,817 --> 00:41:26,842 "Pick up Playboy Magazine. 718 00:41:26,919 --> 00:41:29,854 If that's not Linda, I'll eat the magazine." 719 00:41:30,323 --> 00:41:32,791 So I stopped, I picked it up, 720 00:41:32,859 --> 00:41:34,554 'cause it wasn't allowed in my house. 721 00:41:38,898 --> 00:41:41,025 And I opened it up and I read it 722 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,000 and I said, "Oh, my God." 723 00:41:48,074 --> 00:41:50,770 And I knew then, it was... it was our Linda. 724 00:41:56,949 --> 00:41:59,918 That was difficult for me, to see the movie. 725 00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:07,255 When we got home, I threw myself across the bed and started bawling. 726 00:42:07,326 --> 00:42:09,226 I was crying like, I'd, um, 727 00:42:09,295 --> 00:42:11,923 like I just found out someone I loved had died. 728 00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:17,191 And, uh, 729 00:42:18,404 --> 00:42:20,167 and it wasn't, um... 730 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:24,375 It wasn't just, uh, you know, 731 00:42:24,443 --> 00:42:28,243 a sleazy little film on a... on a small screen 732 00:42:28,314 --> 00:42:30,942 with a bunch of guys in trench coats there. 733 00:42:31,017 --> 00:42:35,078 I mean, there were, society was there. 734 00:42:37,423 --> 00:42:40,756 I didn't know how Linda was going to be able to deal with that. 735 00:42:43,329 --> 00:42:47,231 The next time I spoke to her, she said, "I'm sorry, 736 00:42:47,767 --> 00:42:49,894 "I didn't want you to know, 737 00:42:50,036 --> 00:42:52,266 'cause I knew you'd be upset or you'd be angry." 738 00:42:52,371 --> 00:42:55,966 I said, "I'm not angry 'cause I don't know who Linda Lovelace is. 739 00:42:56,075 --> 00:42:57,804 I only know who you are." 740 00:43:06,052 --> 00:43:08,111 The pornographic film Deep Throat 741 00:43:08,187 --> 00:43:09,882 has become one of the most popular 742 00:43:09,956 --> 00:43:12,322 and profitable blue movies of all time. 743 00:43:12,391 --> 00:43:15,690 Today, a Manhattan criminal court judge ruled the film obscene, 744 00:43:15,761 --> 00:43:18,491 and ordered it removed from theaters in New York City. 745 00:43:25,338 --> 00:43:28,865 A Sodom and Gomorrah gone wild before the fire. 746 00:43:29,408 --> 00:43:32,468 He believed he was writing for posterity. 747 00:43:34,113 --> 00:43:36,513 Now you and I know, in retrospect, 748 00:43:36,816 --> 00:43:39,114 that he accomplished absolutely nothing. 749 00:43:45,091 --> 00:43:47,218 I readily perform the operation 750 00:43:47,293 --> 00:43:50,126 by finding the defendant guilty as charged. 751 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,629 I still think what the Worid Theatre did on its marquee 752 00:43:58,738 --> 00:44:01,002 was better than what he wrote in his opinion. 753 00:44:01,107 --> 00:44:03,268 "Throat cut, worid mourns." 754 00:44:03,809 --> 00:44:05,743 It's a picture that'll never die. 755 00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:10,876 I mean, we'll all die, but Deep Throat won't die. 756 00:44:14,286 --> 00:44:16,413 Shutting Deep Throat down in New York 757 00:44:16,489 --> 00:44:19,390 only spurred audiences' interest across the country. 758 00:44:19,592 --> 00:44:23,050 Wherever it opened, authorities scrambled to shut it down. 759 00:44:23,162 --> 00:44:26,325 This trash that's being shown on our movie screens 760 00:44:26,399 --> 00:44:27,525 across the country. 761 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,501 There isn't any question in my mind that it's obscene. 762 00:44:33,439 --> 00:44:35,839 By the mid '70s, Deep Throat had been tried 763 00:44:35,908 --> 00:44:37,375 in more than 32 cities... 764 00:44:39,311 --> 00:44:42,280 ... and was ultimately banned in 23 states. 765 00:44:42,348 --> 00:44:44,748 Violation of the law. It's a simple thing. 766 00:44:47,186 --> 00:44:49,086 It's obscene as hell to me. 767 00:44:55,127 --> 00:44:56,116 Hmm. 768 00:44:57,797 --> 00:44:59,992 Ordered to stop the spread of Deep Throat, 769 00:45:00,066 --> 00:45:01,829 the FBI stepped in. 770 00:45:02,001 --> 00:45:04,902 They began with the arrest of Gerry Damiano. 771 00:45:06,806 --> 00:45:09,138 The first question the prosecutor asked me: 772 00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:10,641 Did I know what... 773 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:13,372 what affiliation m- my partners had? 774 00:45:15,548 --> 00:45:18,415 And I said as far as I know, he's a Roman Catholic. 775 00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:25,523 All of a sudden, I'm... I'm part of the mob. 776 00:45:27,626 --> 00:45:30,151 No. I was... I was never a mob. 777 00:45:31,497 --> 00:45:33,431 There were originally three partners 778 00:45:33,499 --> 00:45:35,228 who made the movie. 779 00:45:36,368 --> 00:45:39,599 His two partners came to him, Damiano told me, 780 00:45:39,705 --> 00:45:41,570 and told him they were buying him out. 781 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,599 And I said to him that didn't sound like a very good, uh, deal, 782 00:45:45,711 --> 00:45:47,804 uh, when you're a one-third partner of a project 783 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,747 that is just, you know, bringing in bucket-loads of money 784 00:45:50,816 --> 00:45:52,579 and you're suddenly cut out of the deal. 785 00:45:52,651 --> 00:45:53,982 Uh, why didn't he object? 786 00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:56,613 And he rolled his eyes and he wouldn't say anymore. 787 00:45:56,722 --> 00:45:59,987 And the... the only thing he told me was he didn't want his legs broken. 788 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,786 No, it was easier for me to... to say: 789 00:46:05,631 --> 00:46:08,794 "L... I don't, I don't want to have anything to do with it." 790 00:46:08,868 --> 00:46:11,302 It was easier. It was a lot easier. 791 00:46:12,438 --> 00:46:15,236 It was, kind of a... it was, kind of a... 792 00:46:15,307 --> 00:46:17,275 a thing I could not have won. 793 00:46:21,881 --> 00:46:24,714 That's about as far as I could go with it. 794 00:46:27,319 --> 00:46:28,877 Damiano wasn't alone. 795 00:46:28,954 --> 00:46:31,514 Across the country, theater owners discovered 796 00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:33,251 exhibiting Deep Throat also meant 797 00:46:33,325 --> 00:46:35,054 running with the mob. 798 00:46:37,863 --> 00:46:40,525 One day, I pick up the New York Times, 799 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,269 and in it, it says it is very chic 800 00:46:45,304 --> 00:46:46,794 to see Deep Throat. 801 00:46:46,906 --> 00:46:49,033 So that gave me an idea 802 00:46:49,675 --> 00:46:52,940 to see if I can get the picture for Florida. 803 00:46:53,813 --> 00:46:55,713 Luckily, I knew one of the men 804 00:46:55,781 --> 00:46:57,976 that was connected with the picture. 805 00:46:58,017 --> 00:47:00,417 And I didn't think it could run in Florida. 806 00:47:00,486 --> 00:47:04,252 And so, I was given the picture for a very reasonable amount. 807 00:47:04,924 --> 00:47:09,293 I never would have dreamt of opening that picture anywheres 808 00:47:09,628 --> 00:47:11,823 if it wasn't for that article. 809 00:47:11,897 --> 00:47:14,365 If we don't get sued, it will be a miracle. 810 00:47:14,433 --> 00:47:16,367 Terry, please, Terry. It's almost over. 811 00:47:16,435 --> 00:47:17,925 I think it's enough. Cut. Finished. 812 00:47:18,037 --> 00:47:19,265 It's almost over. It's enough. 813 00:47:19,371 --> 00:47:20,497 It's almost over. 814 00:47:20,606 --> 00:47:22,164 L... I think it's enough already. 815 00:47:22,274 --> 00:47:24,868 You don't realize how people pick up on things. 816 00:47:24,977 --> 00:47:26,535 What are they picking up on, Terry? 817 00:47:26,645 --> 00:47:28,579 They're picking up on things in Miami Beach. 818 00:47:28,647 --> 00:47:30,808 You... you just said they do bad things. 819 00:47:30,883 --> 00:47:32,373 They could call you up on this. 820 00:47:32,451 --> 00:47:34,146 Come on, Artie, don't be stupid. 821 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:35,585 You're a grown man. 822 00:47:35,654 --> 00:47:36,780 Cut. 823 00:47:36,856 --> 00:47:38,050 Terry. 824 00:47:40,125 --> 00:47:43,424 Making a living the old, hard way 825 00:47:43,495 --> 00:47:47,022 Taking and giving my day by day 826 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:52,535 I dig the snow and rain and bright sunshine 827 00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,602 My name is Bill Kelly. 828 00:47:55,708 --> 00:47:57,198 Draggin' the line# 829 00:47:57,309 --> 00:47:59,800 The reason there were so many more 830 00:47:59,879 --> 00:48:01,346 obscenity cases 831 00:48:01,413 --> 00:48:03,574 after 1972 832 00:48:03,649 --> 00:48:06,550 was because I went out and looked for 'em. 833 00:48:06,886 --> 00:48:09,252 I knew it was a gamble 834 00:48:10,122 --> 00:48:13,853 because of New York having problems with the city, 835 00:48:13,926 --> 00:48:15,257 that it was on trial. 836 00:48:16,228 --> 00:48:18,719 I opened the picture and the next thing I knew 837 00:48:18,797 --> 00:48:20,287 we had lines around the corner. 838 00:48:20,432 --> 00:48:21,729 There must have been, 839 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,429 I'm guessing 100 or 150 people in line when they opened. 840 00:48:25,704 --> 00:48:29,640 Every fucking FBI agent in the country was sitting in the audience. 841 00:48:29,708 --> 00:48:32,233 Kelly was there and everything else. 842 00:48:33,112 --> 00:48:34,943 You walked into the theater. 843 00:48:35,014 --> 00:48:36,845 There's just a, sort of a bent-nosed, 844 00:48:36,916 --> 00:48:39,612 middle-aged guy with a very rough voice. 845 00:48:39,685 --> 00:48:41,175 He says, "$5." 846 00:48:41,854 --> 00:48:44,152 So I gave him $5 and said: "Where is the ticket?" 847 00:48:44,223 --> 00:48:45,986 He said, "No tickets, just go on in." 848 00:48:46,091 --> 00:48:47,854 The movie started 849 00:48:48,127 --> 00:48:51,619 and about 50 of them got up and said: 850 00:48:51,697 --> 00:48:54,063 "It's a sex picture, get me out! Get me out! 851 00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:56,067 It's a sex picture, I can't stand it." 852 00:48:56,335 --> 00:48:58,326 Not only was it a violation 853 00:48:58,437 --> 00:49:00,462 of the obscenity law of the United States, 854 00:49:00,572 --> 00:49:03,632 it was also a highly organized crime enterprise. 855 00:49:06,245 --> 00:49:07,610 I didn't know 856 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,308 who the Peraino gang was at that time. 857 00:49:10,382 --> 00:49:12,907 But I soon found out when I started investigating 858 00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:15,818 that they were heavyweights out of New York. 859 00:49:15,888 --> 00:49:18,448 They were part of the Colombo family operation 860 00:49:18,524 --> 00:49:21,220 who had moved to Fort Lauderdale area. 861 00:49:23,295 --> 00:49:26,890 I haven't seen them since I... I left. 862 00:49:31,770 --> 00:49:35,103 And I want to make sure l... I don't get a phone call 863 00:49:35,174 --> 00:49:37,904 or get a knock on the door that they want to talk to me. 864 00:49:37,977 --> 00:49:40,969 Because I've been away from them for 30 years. 865 00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:44,248 And I... I... I'd like it to be that way. 866 00:49:44,316 --> 00:49:47,251 This is... this is shit as far as I'm concerned. 867 00:49:47,319 --> 00:49:50,049 Excuse my language but I can't stand it. 868 00:49:50,122 --> 00:49:53,023 He can tell you things, your hair would stand up on your heads. 869 00:49:53,092 --> 00:49:55,356 I didn't mention any of those things, Terry. 870 00:49:55,427 --> 00:49:57,054 What? I didn't mention any of them. 871 00:49:57,129 --> 00:49:58,391 I don't... I don't want you to. 872 00:49:58,464 --> 00:49:59,658 I didn't. 873 00:49:59,732 --> 00:50:01,597 We haven't heard in 32 years. 874 00:50:01,667 --> 00:50:03,032 Thank God. 875 00:50:03,102 --> 00:50:04,160 So, how do you know? 876 00:50:04,269 --> 00:50:06,567 I don't know if they're living. 877 00:50:07,673 --> 00:50:09,698 They could be dead, Terry. 878 00:50:13,645 --> 00:50:15,442 In its second year of release, 879 00:50:15,514 --> 00:50:18,415 Deep Throat was still number 11 on the charts. 880 00:50:18,484 --> 00:50:20,213 It's a dirty movie. 881 00:50:20,386 --> 00:50:24,152 Look, try to look at it as a satire of contemporary sexual mores 882 00:50:24,223 --> 00:50:26,191 with lots of redeeming social values. 883 00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:30,193 Porn chic was all the rage. 884 00:50:30,262 --> 00:50:32,856 Films like Damiano's The Devil in Miss Jones 885 00:50:32,931 --> 00:50:34,398 and Behind the Green Door 886 00:50:34,466 --> 00:50:38,300 followed on the heels of Deep Throat's unprecedented success, 887 00:50:38,570 --> 00:50:41,698 giving Hollywood films a run for their money. 888 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,241 The studios were in shambles in the early '70s. 889 00:50:45,310 --> 00:50:47,642 There's this movie out there, everyone's going to see it. 890 00:50:47,713 --> 00:50:50,705 How does that affect you and the pictures you should be making? 891 00:50:51,316 --> 00:50:53,841 I've been the first one to go down the path. 892 00:50:53,919 --> 00:50:56,251 I'd like to see, uh, legitimate films 893 00:50:56,321 --> 00:50:59,984 and so-called pornographic films merge together. 894 00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:02,687 I think the two industries have got to merge together. 895 00:51:02,895 --> 00:51:04,385 Thank you for making me 896 00:51:04,463 --> 00:51:07,193 the first woman president to go down in history. 897 00:51:08,267 --> 00:51:11,532 They were shooting porn films on the lot at Paramount. 898 00:51:11,637 --> 00:51:12,934 This is a little known fact. 899 00:51:13,038 --> 00:51:16,667 So Paramount became sort of confiscated by the porn industry. 900 00:51:16,775 --> 00:51:18,640 Do you see yourself as a pioneer? 901 00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:19,734 No. 902 00:51:19,845 --> 00:51:21,813 If it's left alone, within a year, 903 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,144 sex will just blend itself into film. 904 00:51:24,216 --> 00:51:25,240 It's inevitable. 905 00:51:25,317 --> 00:51:28,616 The only thing that's uncertain is... is the time it will take. 906 00:51:29,388 --> 00:51:32,255 But the merger of hardcore and movies never happened. 907 00:51:32,324 --> 00:51:36,021 Instead, the Supreme Court, packed with 4 Nixon appointees, 908 00:51:36,095 --> 00:51:38,723 made a radical change to the obscenity law 909 00:51:38,797 --> 00:51:40,992 in June 1973. 910 00:51:43,302 --> 00:51:46,203 Yesterday, the Supreme Court authorized wider restrictions 911 00:51:46,305 --> 00:51:48,398 on the exhibition and sale of obscenity. 912 00:51:49,775 --> 00:51:51,800 The recent Supreme Court decision 913 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:55,471 gave local officials the right to decide for themselves what is pornographic 914 00:51:55,547 --> 00:51:58,846 without having to be guided by a national standard. 915 00:52:02,354 --> 00:52:03,878 Here in New York City today, 916 00:52:03,956 --> 00:52:07,050 vice squad police began cracking down on pornography. 917 00:52:12,698 --> 00:52:15,599 Linda, as you may know, the Supreme Court recently, 918 00:52:15,667 --> 00:52:18,795 uh, handed down a, uh, decision on pornography. 919 00:52:19,471 --> 00:52:22,304 I don't think anybody should regulate anything. 920 00:52:22,374 --> 00:52:23,466 I think it should be, uh, 921 00:52:23,575 --> 00:52:27,011 I don't believe in censorship. I don't believe in anything that they are doing. 922 00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,047 But how far can you extend individual rights 923 00:52:29,114 --> 00:52:31,844 before you hit, uh, the state of anarchy? 924 00:52:31,917 --> 00:52:33,714 Uh, I really... I don't know. 925 00:52:33,785 --> 00:52:35,275 Have you ever thought about that? 926 00:52:35,354 --> 00:52:37,982 No. I don't know what's the state of ana-anarchy. 927 00:52:38,056 --> 00:52:41,321 Well, it's... That's when everyone does precisely what he pleases 928 00:52:41,393 --> 00:52:43,657 and, uh, society has no rules. 929 00:52:43,729 --> 00:52:46,391 At that point, you've reached anarchy. 930 00:52:46,632 --> 00:52:48,691 Uh, I don't know about that, to be honest with you. 931 00:52:48,767 --> 00:52:50,234 I just don't believe in censorship. 932 00:52:50,302 --> 00:52:52,133 I don't... That's taking away your freedom. 933 00:52:52,237 --> 00:52:53,966 That's taking away your individual right 934 00:52:54,072 --> 00:52:55,596 to make up your own mind for things. 935 00:52:55,707 --> 00:52:58,403 The last person that started censorship was Adolf Hitler. 936 00:52:58,477 --> 00:53:00,240 And look what happened there. 937 00:53:03,849 --> 00:53:05,840 Meanwhile, the FBI was closing in 938 00:53:05,918 --> 00:53:08,045 on Deep Throat and its distribution. 939 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,988 They pinpointed the Perainos' headquarters in Fort Lauderdale 940 00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:14,149 and placed them under surveillance. 941 00:53:18,897 --> 00:53:21,457 One day, I get a telephone call 942 00:53:21,533 --> 00:53:23,364 from a confidential source 943 00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:26,697 who will remain anonymous. 944 00:53:29,074 --> 00:53:30,302 And he says to me, uh: 945 00:53:30,409 --> 00:53:34,470 "We've got so much cash that we are having trouble 946 00:53:34,846 --> 00:53:37,337 "physically moving about the office 947 00:53:37,516 --> 00:53:40,383 because the money is gettin' in the way. " 948 00:53:40,552 --> 00:53:42,884 I said, "How much you got?" He said, "I don't know. 949 00:53:42,955 --> 00:53:45,185 We don't even count it anymore." 950 00:53:45,791 --> 00:53:48,225 I said, "You don't count it?" He said, "No." 951 00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:50,557 I said, "What do you do?" He said, "We weigh it." 952 00:53:52,364 --> 00:53:53,831 To get around the law 953 00:53:53,899 --> 00:53:56,094 the mob set up its own distribution system 954 00:53:56,168 --> 00:53:57,658 of checkers and sweepers 955 00:53:57,736 --> 00:54:00,000 who traveled the country delivering prints 956 00:54:00,105 --> 00:54:02,164 and collecting the money from theaters. 957 00:54:02,274 --> 00:54:05,903 At a certain time every day, the checker or the sweeper 958 00:54:05,978 --> 00:54:09,243 would go to the manager of the particular theater, 959 00:54:09,514 --> 00:54:13,314 and he would say, "Our take is 50 percent. 960 00:54:13,385 --> 00:54:16,013 "And we want it now, in cash. 961 00:54:16,455 --> 00:54:18,855 Give us the money now, or else." 962 00:54:20,959 --> 00:54:23,052 I was on my way down to Nashville. 963 00:54:23,128 --> 00:54:24,595 And the reason I went to Nashville 964 00:54:24,663 --> 00:54:26,756 was I wanted to buy these Goo Goo candy bars. 965 00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:29,429 Goo Goo, chew it, taste it, sweet milk 966 00:54:29,501 --> 00:54:31,264 I was gonna buy a bunch of them 967 00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:32,632 and just, you know, market them 968 00:54:32,738 --> 00:54:34,035 and see if I could get it going. 969 00:54:34,139 --> 00:54:36,164 Well, on Saturday night, I decided I'd just go out. 970 00:54:36,275 --> 00:54:38,243 And I met a couple of guys from New Jersey. 971 00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:39,800 They were a couple of Italian guys. 972 00:54:39,911 --> 00:54:40,900 I happen to be a Greek, 973 00:54:41,013 --> 00:54:42,776 so Italians and Greeks are like cousins. 974 00:54:42,848 --> 00:54:46,579 I gotta have a Goo Goo, how 'bout you? Goo Goo# 975 00:54:46,652 --> 00:54:48,517 They wanted me to go to work for 'em 976 00:54:48,587 --> 00:54:51,522 uh, baby-sitting Deep Throat. 977 00:54:51,623 --> 00:54:55,115 And they sent me over to the Lamar Theater in Memphis. 978 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,892 And that's where it all began. 979 00:54:59,298 --> 00:55:02,392 And as people walked in, I would count 'em in. 980 00:55:02,601 --> 00:55:04,592 Then I would go down through the theater crowd 981 00:55:04,703 --> 00:55:07,934 and I would count the number of people in the theater with a little clicker. 982 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,940 You know, those little things. 983 00:55:12,277 --> 00:55:15,075 A checker. That's what I was. 984 00:55:16,248 --> 00:55:18,773 L... I was just a simple checker. I had no power 985 00:55:18,850 --> 00:55:21,148 I had no rank, nothing. I was just an employee. 986 00:55:23,155 --> 00:55:24,816 Nobody was hurt. 987 00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:27,085 And, uh, the only ones that got hurt 988 00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,686 was, uh, one of our checkers in New Orleans. 989 00:55:30,762 --> 00:55:33,356 Uh, he had $60,000 and he disappeared. 990 00:55:33,432 --> 00:55:36,731 The money disappeared and they found his body in the back of a pickup truck. 991 00:55:39,004 --> 00:55:41,905 A theater manager refused to pay. 992 00:55:43,475 --> 00:55:47,138 And the next thing I know, I heard the theater burned down. 993 00:55:47,346 --> 00:55:50,042 I'm not saying they would do somethin'. 994 00:55:50,115 --> 00:55:52,948 But I did have a Colt.45 with the hammer back 995 00:55:53,018 --> 00:55:54,042 in my belt. 996 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,551 They had people that... that would do things. 997 00:55:59,424 --> 00:56:02,518 Was it any kind of, uh, an organized crime? 998 00:56:02,694 --> 00:56:04,525 Well, is every Italian 999 00:56:04,963 --> 00:56:06,521 A criminal? 1000 00:56:06,598 --> 00:56:09,260 Is every Italian a gangster? I don't think so. 1001 00:56:09,334 --> 00:56:12,201 You know, some Italians have actually opened up Italian restaurants 1002 00:56:12,304 --> 00:56:15,034 And done very well with them. 1003 00:56:17,175 --> 00:56:19,370 I've met some mafia men in my life. 1004 00:56:19,444 --> 00:56:21,435 They won't threaten you in any way. 1005 00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:23,946 But if you do something dishonest, 1006 00:56:24,616 --> 00:56:25,810 most of the times, 1007 00:56:25,884 --> 00:56:28,409 they don't give you a second chance. 1008 00:56:31,323 --> 00:56:33,655 So why did you walk away from it yourself? 1009 00:56:33,725 --> 00:56:35,886 Because I was told to. 1010 00:56:37,329 --> 00:56:40,059 Rather, my wife was told that I should 1011 00:56:41,166 --> 00:56:42,292 leave. 1012 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:48,138 And no money in the worid is worth 1013 00:56:48,206 --> 00:56:50,504 just worrying about something. 1014 00:56:54,212 --> 00:56:55,543 That's my wife. 1015 00:56:55,614 --> 00:56:56,774 Artie, again? 1016 00:56:56,848 --> 00:56:57,906 Now, Terry. 1017 00:56:57,983 --> 00:56:59,075 Are you enjoying this? 1018 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,279 Damn it. You're some kind of nut. 1019 00:57:04,222 --> 00:57:07,453 Okay. They're finished, Terry, all right? 1020 00:57:15,267 --> 00:57:18,828 Finally, after three years of FBI investigation, 1021 00:57:18,937 --> 00:57:23,374 the government launched one of the most ambitious obscenity trials ever mounted. 1022 00:57:23,475 --> 00:57:26,774 Designed to nail Deep Throat and all pornographic films 1023 00:57:26,845 --> 00:57:28,312 once and for all. 1024 00:57:30,849 --> 00:57:34,148 I think this case was a case of prosecution 1025 00:57:34,352 --> 00:57:37,253 that was directed, orchestrated, 1026 00:57:37,823 --> 00:57:39,586 uh, from Washington, D.C. 1027 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,122 All told, 117 people were charged with conspiracy: 1028 00:57:46,531 --> 00:57:49,159 From the distributor to the projectionist. 1029 00:57:49,234 --> 00:57:50,724 And one man, 1030 00:57:50,802 --> 00:57:53,862 the government intended to make an example of. 1031 00:57:54,973 --> 00:57:56,838 The director had immunity. 1032 00:57:56,908 --> 00:57:58,569 The star had immunity, 1033 00:57:58,643 --> 00:58:00,508 but the actor did not. 1034 00:58:07,052 --> 00:58:09,646 The theory was, if you prosecuted the star 1035 00:58:09,721 --> 00:58:12,417 then nobody would ever wanna make a film like this. 1036 00:58:12,491 --> 00:58:14,857 And you could drive the industry out of business. 1037 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,060 Harry Reems was paid $250 to appear in Deep Throat. 1038 00:58:20,499 --> 00:58:22,262 He had no control, 1039 00:58:22,567 --> 00:58:24,831 no say, no input 1040 00:58:25,437 --> 00:58:28,804 with what the final version of this film was gonna be 1041 00:58:28,874 --> 00:58:31,434 or whether it was gonna be distributed interstate, 1042 00:58:31,543 --> 00:58:33,738 intrastate, intergalactic. 1043 00:58:33,812 --> 00:58:35,211 It's impressive, for the first time 1044 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,713 in the history of the United States 1045 00:58:36,781 --> 00:58:39,113 an artist has ever been brought to trial by the government. 1046 00:58:40,785 --> 00:58:42,844 All of the trials have been prosecuted 1047 00:58:42,921 --> 00:58:45,583 by a young assistant US attorney named Larry Parrish, 1048 00:58:45,657 --> 00:58:48,490 a lay Protestant preacher who has been quoted as saying 1049 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,961 he'd rather get smut off the streets of Memphis than dope. 1050 00:58:52,030 --> 00:58:55,397 Larry Parrish is the... About one of the finest people 1051 00:58:55,467 --> 00:58:57,367 I've ever known in my entire life. 1052 00:58:58,703 --> 00:58:59,727 Fine guy. 1053 00:58:59,838 --> 00:59:03,103 And on top of that he's, uh, he's movie star quality. 1054 00:59:03,174 --> 00:59:05,404 First of all, he was very tall. 1055 00:59:05,477 --> 00:59:07,445 And I hate tall people. 1056 00:59:08,113 --> 00:59:09,410 Uh... 1057 00:59:09,481 --> 00:59:11,506 But he was also very arrogant. 1058 00:59:12,017 --> 00:59:14,508 If you're gonna dance, you need to pay the piper. 1059 00:59:14,586 --> 00:59:16,451 And, uh, I'm the piper. 1060 00:59:16,788 --> 00:59:19,086 You've got to be accountable under the law. 1061 00:59:19,257 --> 00:59:21,316 It was like when some people know 1062 00:59:21,393 --> 00:59:24,123 that they have the answer to everything 1063 00:59:24,262 --> 00:59:27,959 and everybody else is... is... is... is totally wrong. 1064 00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:32,431 It was purely and simply a matter of law enforcement. 1065 00:59:33,071 --> 00:59:36,199 And I guess if there was any passion in it for me, 1066 00:59:36,308 --> 00:59:38,173 it was that, um, 1067 00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:42,543 these are laws that had not been enforced. 1068 00:59:42,948 --> 00:59:44,813 And I knew of no reason 1069 00:59:44,883 --> 00:59:47,010 why they should not be enforced. 1070 00:59:47,118 --> 00:59:48,483 To make his case, 1071 00:59:48,553 --> 00:59:51,386 Larry Parrish invoked a highly unusual use 1072 00:59:51,456 --> 00:59:53,014 of the conspiracy laws. 1073 00:59:53,224 --> 00:59:56,193 The government explained their conspiracy theory 1074 00:59:56,261 --> 00:59:58,229 in the terms of a train. 1075 01:00:00,432 --> 01:00:03,265 That if the train starts in Los �ngeles 1076 01:00:03,335 --> 01:00:05,599 and you get on in Los �ngeles, 1077 01:00:05,937 --> 01:00:07,996 and you ride to Denver and get off, 1078 01:00:08,106 --> 01:00:10,574 but the train continues on to Memphis, 1079 01:00:10,675 --> 01:00:14,076 you are legally responsible for the entire journey. 1080 01:00:15,146 --> 01:00:17,910 And if you're responsible for everything that takes place, 1081 01:00:17,983 --> 01:00:19,814 you have unlimited liability. 1082 01:00:19,884 --> 01:00:23,650 This was a very creative use of the law of conspiracy 1083 01:00:23,722 --> 01:00:26,953 and prosecutors should never be creative. 1084 01:00:27,292 --> 01:00:28,884 That's not their job. 1085 01:00:29,094 --> 01:00:31,187 If my mother had been involved, 1086 01:00:31,262 --> 01:00:32,524 she would have been indicted. 1087 01:00:32,597 --> 01:00:35,498 I will promise you that. Uh, she wasn't. 1088 01:00:36,001 --> 01:00:39,232 When you tell artists, bad artists or good artists, 1089 01:00:39,371 --> 01:00:41,771 that they cannot experiment in certain avenues, 1090 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,400 you are taking away the basic freedoms of every American. 1091 01:00:44,776 --> 01:00:47,176 For some reason, though, 1092 01:00:47,245 --> 01:00:50,681 it was as if he is involved in art. 1093 01:00:51,216 --> 01:00:53,946 And so art is protected. 1094 01:00:54,252 --> 01:00:57,221 Well, not by the definition of the Supreme Court. 1095 01:00:57,288 --> 01:00:59,518 Maybe I'm disgusting in some peoples' eyes. 1096 01:00:59,591 --> 01:01:01,456 Maybe others are bored by me. 1097 01:01:01,526 --> 01:01:04,086 But there are no laws against acting in these films. 1098 01:01:04,529 --> 01:01:07,225 And the actors and the actresses, 1099 01:01:07,565 --> 01:01:09,556 I really hesitate to call them that. 1100 01:01:11,069 --> 01:01:13,867 They are prostitutes and whoremongers 1101 01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,139 On the screen. 1102 01:01:16,207 --> 01:01:18,675 I'm sorry, that's just all they are. 1103 01:01:19,177 --> 01:01:20,610 And, uh... 1104 01:01:21,913 --> 01:01:23,574 Uh, they... 1105 01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:28,744 They don't even believe that there is any law. 1106 01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:32,813 How do you communicate to those persons 1107 01:01:33,024 --> 01:01:35,288 that this is against the law? 1108 01:01:35,393 --> 01:01:37,020 I face five years in jail. 1109 01:01:37,095 --> 01:01:40,656 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat, 1110 01:01:40,732 --> 01:01:42,495 which is not in violation of the law? 1111 01:01:49,874 --> 01:01:51,501 If seeing this motion picture 1112 01:01:51,609 --> 01:01:53,543 as many times as Larry Parrish has seen it 1113 01:01:53,611 --> 01:01:56,478 has not corrupted him, or made him into a sex addict, 1114 01:01:56,548 --> 01:01:58,948 than I think that's, uh, proof positive 1115 01:01:59,017 --> 01:02:03,215 that these films do not have a deleterious effect on the human being. 1116 01:02:03,888 --> 01:02:05,082 I'm sitting here right now 1117 01:02:05,156 --> 01:02:07,454 trying to draw some images up from Deep Throat. 1118 01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:09,652 To be honest about it, uh, 1119 01:02:10,862 --> 01:02:13,296 do I feel that I'm worse off because of it? 1120 01:02:13,364 --> 01:02:14,831 Yes, I do. 1121 01:02:15,467 --> 01:02:18,493 Uh, I can't get images out of my mind 1122 01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:20,333 that I have seen. 1123 01:02:24,409 --> 01:02:26,673 I have told people I'm not a eunuch. 1124 01:02:26,745 --> 01:02:30,340 I- I'm a regular red-blooded American male. 1125 01:02:32,450 --> 01:02:33,849 And, uh, 1126 01:02:33,918 --> 01:02:36,113 and those images I wish were not there. 1127 01:02:38,056 --> 01:02:40,115 We had a lot of eye contact with the jury. 1128 01:02:40,191 --> 01:02:43,354 I think the jury was very sympathetic to Harry. 1129 01:02:44,929 --> 01:02:47,329 And there was a palpable change 1130 01:02:47,632 --> 01:02:49,497 in the jury's reaction 1131 01:02:50,335 --> 01:02:53,099 to Harry after seeing him in the film. 1132 01:02:53,538 --> 01:02:56,598 That was one of the amusing times in the trial. 1133 01:02:56,708 --> 01:02:58,266 He sat over in a, uh, 1134 01:02:58,376 --> 01:03:00,742 in a corner by himself, sort of hoverin' 1135 01:03:01,212 --> 01:03:03,043 and wouldn't look at the jurors, 1136 01:03:03,114 --> 01:03:04,877 and they were all staring at him. 1137 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:12,856 I felt as though my life was being taken away from me. 1138 01:03:12,924 --> 01:03:15,893 And that I was being depicted, characterized 1139 01:03:16,561 --> 01:03:18,358 as something evil, a demon. 1140 01:03:25,970 --> 01:03:27,597 After a two-month trial, 1141 01:03:27,705 --> 01:03:29,832 the jury took just five hours 1142 01:03:29,941 --> 01:03:32,705 to return a unanimously guilty verdict. 1143 01:03:32,811 --> 01:03:34,676 The substance of what you say, 1144 01:03:34,746 --> 01:03:37,374 in effect, is you were the little man who wasn't there. 1145 01:03:37,448 --> 01:03:38,847 But the fact of the matter is, 1146 01:03:38,917 --> 01:03:41,010 you deliberately and knowingly 1147 01:03:41,085 --> 01:03:42,712 committed a long series 1148 01:03:42,787 --> 01:03:45,517 of immoral, revolting, obscene acts. 1149 01:03:45,590 --> 01:03:47,581 You might have found it obscene, and immoral, 1150 01:03:47,659 --> 01:03:49,149 and distasteful, and disgusting. 1151 01:03:49,227 --> 01:03:50,216 Others don't. 1152 01:03:50,295 --> 01:03:53,560 The acts you performed on film are acts that would be crimes 1153 01:03:53,631 --> 01:03:56,122 if they were performed on the street or someplace else. 1154 01:03:56,201 --> 01:03:58,567 No. They are wonderful celebrations of life. 1155 01:03:58,636 --> 01:03:59,898 They're called sex, Mr. Cohn. 1156 01:04:00,004 --> 01:04:02,199 You just can't cloak yourself with the American flag 1157 01:04:02,307 --> 01:04:03,706 because you don't fit the image. 1158 01:04:03,775 --> 01:04:07,211 You talk as though the Bill of Rights was created just for you. 1159 01:04:15,653 --> 01:04:18,019 For the first time in US history, 1160 01:04:18,089 --> 01:04:21,547 an actor had been convicted for merely playing a part. 1161 01:04:21,893 --> 01:04:24,691 And Harry Reems faced five years in jail. 1162 01:04:25,530 --> 01:04:27,691 It did not bode well for the future 1163 01:04:27,765 --> 01:04:30,233 of any kind of aesthetic or artistic expression 1164 01:04:30,301 --> 01:04:32,269 in this country, in any of the arts, 1165 01:04:32,370 --> 01:04:34,338 much less this poor guy 1166 01:04:34,505 --> 01:04:38,271 who, you know, suddenly finds himself being made a scapegoat. 1167 01:04:38,576 --> 01:04:40,134 All in the interest of 1168 01:04:40,245 --> 01:04:43,112 a basically moral crusade. 1169 01:04:47,185 --> 01:04:49,278 What was behind the case in Memphis 1170 01:04:49,354 --> 01:04:51,549 was the religious right. 1171 01:04:51,623 --> 01:04:54,524 This is the first real incarnation 1172 01:04:54,592 --> 01:04:58,688 of trying to apply their conception of morality 1173 01:04:59,464 --> 01:05:00,931 to all of America. 1174 01:05:04,769 --> 01:05:05,827 In response, 1175 01:05:05,937 --> 01:05:09,065 Hollywood was quick to mobilize and defend Harry Reems, 1176 01:05:09,173 --> 01:05:12,574 positioning itself as an opposing cultural force. 1177 01:05:14,112 --> 01:05:15,636 Professionals in the arts 1178 01:05:15,747 --> 01:05:18,011 may not find Deep Throat, as such, 1179 01:05:18,082 --> 01:05:20,414 a piece of art worth defending. 1180 01:05:20,618 --> 01:05:22,051 But they are worried about 1181 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,145 the threat of being arrested later on 1182 01:05:24,222 --> 01:05:26,884 for what they write or act in today. 1183 01:05:26,958 --> 01:05:28,585 It's a censorship issue. 1184 01:05:28,660 --> 01:05:32,596 My overall concern is the basic, uh, infringement 1185 01:05:32,664 --> 01:05:34,359 on the rights of the First Amendment. 1186 01:05:34,432 --> 01:05:36,696 That's probably why I came to his defense, 1187 01:05:36,768 --> 01:05:39,396 knowing that Beatty and Nicholson did. 1188 01:05:41,172 --> 01:05:43,663 That's how I make all my decisions. 1189 01:05:45,276 --> 01:05:48,074 I said, "Alan, am... am... am I gonna be convicted? 1190 01:05:48,179 --> 01:05:49,578 "Am I going to do prison time?" 1191 01:05:49,647 --> 01:05:51,547 And his response was: 1192 01:05:54,118 --> 01:05:55,745 "If the Republicans are reelected, 1193 01:05:55,820 --> 01:05:57,617 you're going to jail. 1194 01:05:58,089 --> 01:06:01,718 If the Democrats are elected, you're going to be set free." 1195 01:06:05,063 --> 01:06:07,293 While Harry fought for his freedom, 1196 01:06:07,365 --> 01:06:10,061 the architect of the moral crusade in the first place 1197 01:06:10,134 --> 01:06:13,126 was no longer in office to savor his triumph. 1198 01:06:13,471 --> 01:06:17,066 I shall resign the Presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 1199 01:06:20,078 --> 01:06:23,275 And his undoing had also been Deep Throat, 1200 01:06:23,448 --> 01:06:26,440 the nickname for the secret Watergate source. 1201 01:06:26,684 --> 01:06:28,982 There's an expression in journalism 1202 01:06:29,053 --> 01:06:31,112 called "deep background" which means that 1203 01:06:31,189 --> 01:06:34,352 the information cannot be used in the newspaper 1204 01:06:34,425 --> 01:06:37,622 with any kind of hint of attribution. 1205 01:06:38,463 --> 01:06:41,591 Deep Throat, deep background. You know, it's sort of a... 1206 01:06:41,666 --> 01:06:43,725 But if you want to know how I really feel 1207 01:06:43,801 --> 01:06:47,532 Its national nightmare over, the nation got down. 1208 01:06:48,740 --> 01:06:50,298 Get the action goin' 1209 01:06:52,844 --> 01:06:54,937 How do you like it? How do you like it? 1210 01:06:55,013 --> 01:06:57,277 The time was right for a porno star to be a pop star. 1211 01:06:57,348 --> 01:06:58,474 Who would have ever thought? 1212 01:06:58,583 --> 01:07:00,050 How do you like it? 1213 01:07:00,118 --> 01:07:01,779 More, more, more. 1214 01:07:01,886 --> 01:07:03,547 How do you like it, how do you like it? 1215 01:07:03,621 --> 01:07:04,986 How do you like it?# 1216 01:07:05,056 --> 01:07:06,717 That's it. That's all of it. 1217 01:07:06,791 --> 01:07:09,692 It gets repeated and repeated and repeated. 1218 01:07:11,496 --> 01:07:12,656 It means nothing. 1219 01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,695 Keep it coming, love 1220 01:07:17,769 --> 01:07:19,964 Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no 1221 01:07:20,071 --> 01:07:21,936 Don't stop it now, don't stop 1222 01:07:22,006 --> 01:07:26,272 Keep it coming, love, Keep it coming, love 1223 01:07:26,577 --> 01:07:28,772 Don't stop it now, don't stop it, no 1224 01:07:28,846 --> 01:07:30,871 Don't stop it now, don't stop it 1225 01:07:30,948 --> 01:07:34,941 Don't let your well run dry 1226 01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:37,187 Don't stop it now 1227 01:07:39,057 --> 01:07:40,319 Keep it coming, love# 1228 01:07:40,391 --> 01:07:41,551 A year ago, 1229 01:07:41,626 --> 01:07:44,254 a Memphis federal court convicted actor Harry Reems 1230 01:07:44,328 --> 01:07:46,796 on obscenity charges in connection with his role 1231 01:07:46,864 --> 01:07:48,525 in the film Deep Throat. 1232 01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:51,898 Today, a US District Judge in Memphis overturned that conviction, 1233 01:07:51,969 --> 01:07:54,563 saying that the actor's activities took place before 1234 01:07:54,672 --> 01:07:57,573 the 1973 Supreme Court obscenity ruling. 1235 01:07:59,010 --> 01:08:02,707 Now that my name was... was pretty recognizable, 1236 01:08:03,014 --> 01:08:04,242 I moved to LA, 1237 01:08:04,315 --> 01:08:07,079 thinking that certainly somebody would come along and say: 1238 01:08:07,151 --> 01:08:09,142 "Well, there's a sellable name." 1239 01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:12,222 Allan Carr had produced and directed films, 1240 01:08:12,290 --> 01:08:13,882 uh, for Paramount. 1241 01:08:13,958 --> 01:08:15,425 And he called me one day and said, 1242 01:08:15,493 --> 01:08:17,552 "I'd like you to play the role 1243 01:08:17,628 --> 01:08:20,722 of the high school coach in the movie Grease. " 1244 01:08:21,065 --> 01:08:23,590 I was excited that I was given an opportunity. 1245 01:08:23,668 --> 01:08:25,033 Then about two or three weeks 1246 01:08:25,136 --> 01:08:27,627 before principal photography began, 1247 01:08:27,738 --> 01:08:30,366 Paramount Pictures removed me from the cast. 1248 01:08:30,475 --> 01:08:33,376 That they didn't feel as though I belonged 1249 01:08:34,078 --> 01:08:36,706 in a mainstream motion picture. 1250 01:08:37,014 --> 01:08:39,278 And the lights went on for me. 1251 01:08:39,350 --> 01:08:41,215 I had branded myself 1252 01:08:41,352 --> 01:08:44,014 and, uh, given myself a certain stigma. 1253 01:08:45,089 --> 01:08:47,250 I just started to drink every night, 1254 01:08:47,558 --> 01:08:48,991 looking for an escape, 1255 01:08:49,060 --> 01:08:52,154 looking for a little bit of lightheartedness. 1256 01:08:52,230 --> 01:08:53,629 And, you know, 1257 01:08:53,698 --> 01:08:57,691 it just led me into a terrible, terrible disease 1258 01:08:57,768 --> 01:08:59,895 of alcoholism and drug addiction. 1259 01:09:00,371 --> 01:09:02,202 What are you doin'? 1260 01:09:02,406 --> 01:09:05,102 An antidote. I'm mixing an antidote. 1261 01:09:05,276 --> 01:09:07,210 I remember the last movies I was on, 1262 01:09:07,278 --> 01:09:08,768 I couldn't even walk. 1263 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,246 I mean, literally, they had to carry me to a seat 1264 01:09:11,315 --> 01:09:14,341 and I'd shoot the whole motion picture sitting in a seat, 1265 01:09:14,418 --> 01:09:16,443 delivering lines, drunk. 1266 01:09:19,423 --> 01:09:21,983 I was so drunk and so drugged up at the time 1267 01:09:22,059 --> 01:09:24,892 that I couldn't do sex scenes. 1268 01:09:25,363 --> 01:09:27,024 Oh, my head. 1269 01:09:27,098 --> 01:09:29,157 They'd carry me off the set 1270 01:09:29,233 --> 01:09:32,725 and somebody would get me home and I'd drink some more 1271 01:09:32,837 --> 01:09:35,601 and they'd pick me up and take me back the next day. 1272 01:09:35,706 --> 01:09:37,731 It's all a blur. It's all a blur. 1273 01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,213 I lost my home. 1274 01:09:43,281 --> 01:09:45,010 I lost my career. 1275 01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:47,515 I lost my friends, 1276 01:09:49,086 --> 01:09:50,781 and ended up, literally, 1277 01:09:50,855 --> 01:09:54,018 panhandling in the streets on Sunset Boulevard. 1278 01:09:55,893 --> 01:09:57,485 Harry's personal defeat 1279 01:09:57,562 --> 01:09:59,928 in the face of his First Amendment triumph 1280 01:09:59,997 --> 01:10:02,693 reflected the way society was changing. 1281 01:10:07,171 --> 01:10:08,604 Get lost! 1282 01:10:08,673 --> 01:10:10,641 Freedom! Freedom! 1283 01:10:10,741 --> 01:10:12,709 Culture took a reactionary turn 1284 01:10:12,810 --> 01:10:14,937 after what seemed like we were on, uh, heading 1285 01:10:15,012 --> 01:10:17,776 toward a climax of the sexual revolution 1286 01:10:17,848 --> 01:10:20,442 that we never actually, uh, attained. 1287 01:10:22,687 --> 01:10:24,746 In the 1970s, 1288 01:10:24,822 --> 01:10:28,019 the worst censors in the country 1289 01:10:28,426 --> 01:10:30,792 suddenly became the feminists. 1290 01:10:32,797 --> 01:10:34,594 The so-called sexual revolution 1291 01:10:34,665 --> 01:10:38,123 in this country has not been liberating for women. 1292 01:10:38,202 --> 01:10:41,194 It's the way that pornography invades the popular culture... 1293 01:10:41,272 --> 01:10:44,105 It's becoming increasingly socially acceptable. 1294 01:10:45,543 --> 01:10:47,670 The role that you have selected for women 1295 01:10:47,745 --> 01:10:48,803 is degrading to women 1296 01:10:48,879 --> 01:10:50,904 because you choose to see women as sex objects 1297 01:10:50,982 --> 01:10:52,279 not as full human beings. 1298 01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,079 Well, obviously... Hold on. The day that... 1299 01:10:55,386 --> 01:10:57,251 Obviously... I haven't finished. 1300 01:10:57,321 --> 01:10:59,255 The day that you are willing to come out here 1301 01:10:59,323 --> 01:11:01,689 with a cottontail attached to your rear end... 1302 01:11:04,462 --> 01:11:07,295 When the women's movement began to attack sex in general 1303 01:11:07,365 --> 01:11:08,423 and men in general, 1304 01:11:08,499 --> 01:11:09,557 I was... 1305 01:11:09,634 --> 01:11:10,999 I was at a loss for words 1306 01:11:11,068 --> 01:11:13,696 because these were our partners 1307 01:11:13,804 --> 01:11:16,170 in a revolution to really change 1308 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,231 uh, sexual values. 1309 01:11:18,476 --> 01:11:19,670 I'm more in sympathy 1310 01:11:19,744 --> 01:11:21,735 than perhaps, uh, you know, the giris realize... 1311 01:11:21,846 --> 01:11:22,870 Women. 1312 01:11:22,947 --> 01:11:24,005 I'm sorry. 1313 01:11:24,081 --> 01:11:25,105 Yes. I'm 35. 1314 01:11:25,182 --> 01:11:26,581 Than the ladies realize. 1315 01:11:26,651 --> 01:11:28,676 I use "giris" referring to women of all ages. 1316 01:11:28,753 --> 01:11:30,277 You should stop. 1317 01:11:30,354 --> 01:11:32,379 If you want to be called a boy. 1318 01:11:32,456 --> 01:11:34,481 I see. Okay. Um... 1319 01:11:37,561 --> 01:11:40,462 The idea was to convince people 1320 01:11:41,198 --> 01:11:45,294 that there were good, sound, feminist, humanitarian reasons 1321 01:11:45,403 --> 01:11:47,428 to be against pornography. 1322 01:11:48,973 --> 01:11:51,771 Women Against Pornography found a surprising ally 1323 01:11:51,842 --> 01:11:55,300 in America's most famous porn star: Linda Lovelace, 1324 01:11:55,413 --> 01:11:56,937 who had retired from the spotlight 1325 01:11:57,014 --> 01:11:58,447 and was now a mother and housewife. 1326 01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:03,950 Linda Lovelace is, uh, here. 1327 01:12:04,021 --> 01:12:05,921 The book is titled, uh, Ordeal. 1328 01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:08,151 And I'll tell you, this book is a very, uh, 1329 01:12:08,225 --> 01:12:10,523 explicit recounting of what happened to you. 1330 01:12:10,594 --> 01:12:12,892 I felt it was important to let 1331 01:12:12,963 --> 01:12:14,590 everything out that happened to me. 1332 01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:17,167 I literally became a prisoner of Mr. Traynor's. 1333 01:12:17,234 --> 01:12:19,634 I wasn't permitted to go to the bathroom by myself. 1334 01:12:19,737 --> 01:12:21,728 I was never allowed out of his eyesight. 1335 01:12:21,839 --> 01:12:24,205 If he took a shower, I had to take a shower with him. 1336 01:12:24,275 --> 01:12:27,676 If I did have any kind of communication with my friends or my family, 1337 01:12:27,745 --> 01:12:29,542 he was on the extension with a.45 1338 01:12:29,613 --> 01:12:32,343 or an M-16 semi-automatic machine gun pointed at me. 1339 01:12:32,683 --> 01:12:36,244 And there are those who say you can see the bruises on her in the film. 1340 01:12:38,189 --> 01:12:41,454 You tell me if the bruises are visible in the film. 1341 01:12:41,525 --> 01:12:44,426 How did Linda Lovelace and Gloria Steinem join forces? 1342 01:12:44,495 --> 01:12:46,053 How did the two of you get together? 1343 01:12:46,130 --> 01:12:48,963 I saw Linda on the Phil Donahue Show. 1344 01:12:49,033 --> 01:12:52,833 And she was being questioned by Phil, 1345 01:12:52,937 --> 01:12:55,633 who I think is usually a more sensitive questioner 1346 01:12:55,740 --> 01:12:57,401 than he was this time, 1347 01:12:57,508 --> 01:13:00,807 uh, and by the audience, with enormous disbelief. 1348 01:13:01,011 --> 01:13:02,842 And I still find it very hard to believe 1349 01:13:02,913 --> 01:13:04,904 that you have become a changed person. 1350 01:13:04,982 --> 01:13:07,542 I had always heard that to be hypnotized, you had to be willing. 1351 01:13:07,618 --> 01:13:10,143 Is there something about the way you were raised, in your view, 1352 01:13:10,221 --> 01:13:11,688 that made you vulnerable to this? 1353 01:13:11,789 --> 01:13:14,223 And yet she was still being asked, 1354 01:13:14,291 --> 01:13:16,122 uh, what in her background 1355 01:13:16,193 --> 01:13:18,821 had led her to become essentially a hostage. 1356 01:13:19,096 --> 01:13:21,121 What did lead you to become a hostage, 1357 01:13:21,198 --> 01:13:23,063 if we can... if we can now ask the question? 1358 01:13:23,134 --> 01:13:25,227 Does it go back beyond that to your childhood, 1359 01:13:25,302 --> 01:13:26,735 that you were a susceptible person? 1360 01:13:26,837 --> 01:13:27,861 No. 1361 01:13:27,972 --> 01:13:31,032 See now what you're doing, you're doing what... what made me so angry. 1362 01:13:31,142 --> 01:13:34,202 You know, because we don't say to the hostages in Iran: 1363 01:13:34,311 --> 01:13:37,109 "What in your... what in your background led you 1364 01:13:37,181 --> 01:13:38,808 to... to be in that embassy?" Yeah. 1365 01:13:38,883 --> 01:13:40,874 The situations are not nearly comparable. 1366 01:13:40,951 --> 01:13:43,249 They are. It's force. 1367 01:13:43,988 --> 01:13:47,446 Linda needed somebody to tell her what to do. 1368 01:13:49,093 --> 01:13:51,493 And as long as she had somebody telling her what to do, 1369 01:13:51,562 --> 01:13:53,120 she... she was happy. 1370 01:13:53,197 --> 01:13:54,459 So when she made the movie, 1371 01:13:54,532 --> 01:13:55,999 she was happy making the movie. 1372 01:13:56,066 --> 01:13:57,499 After the movie, somebody said, 1373 01:13:57,568 --> 01:13:59,297 "Hey, you shouldn't have made that movie." 1374 01:13:59,403 --> 01:14:01,496 So she became unhappy about making the movie, 1375 01:14:01,605 --> 01:14:03,232 which wasn't true. 1376 01:14:03,474 --> 01:14:06,307 She was very happy about making the movie. 1377 01:14:11,415 --> 01:14:14,578 Linda's new fame as a crusader against pornography 1378 01:14:14,652 --> 01:14:18,679 culminated with her testimony before the Meese Commission in 1986. 1379 01:14:19,089 --> 01:14:21,216 My ordeal still goes on. 1380 01:14:21,292 --> 01:14:23,021 The film Deep Throat still shows 1381 01:14:23,093 --> 01:14:25,561 and virtually every time someone watches that movie, 1382 01:14:25,629 --> 01:14:27,995 they're watching me being raped. 1383 01:14:28,098 --> 01:14:30,191 Once again, the government had set out 1384 01:14:30,267 --> 01:14:32,201 to determine the effect of pornography. 1385 01:14:32,269 --> 01:14:35,238 This time, instead of relying on scientific data, 1386 01:14:35,306 --> 01:14:37,137 they relied on personal testimony 1387 01:14:37,208 --> 01:14:40,143 to prove that pornography was a social evil. 1388 01:14:41,312 --> 01:14:44,145 Well, the other day my 8-year-old son said to me: 1389 01:14:44,215 --> 01:14:46,547 "Mommy, if this country is so great, 1390 01:14:46,617 --> 01:14:48,551 how come people are still hurting you?" 1391 01:14:48,619 --> 01:14:50,484 It's sort of like the Oprah Show. 1392 01:14:50,554 --> 01:14:53,489 It's, um, much more anecdotal. Much less professional. 1393 01:14:53,691 --> 01:14:56,819 So what Nixon starts in the '60s and '70s 1394 01:14:56,894 --> 01:14:58,361 by stacking the court, 1395 01:14:58,429 --> 01:15:00,397 Reagan finishes with the Meese report. 1396 01:15:00,464 --> 01:15:02,398 In its most controversial finding, 1397 01:15:02,466 --> 01:15:03,660 the commission concludes 1398 01:15:03,734 --> 01:15:06,362 there is a relationship between violence and pornography. 1399 01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:09,132 The commission conducted no scientific studies. 1400 01:15:12,843 --> 01:15:15,277 Finally, after decades of struggle, 1401 01:15:15,346 --> 01:15:17,644 politics triumphed over pornography. 1402 01:15:17,715 --> 01:15:19,478 But the victory was hollow. 1403 01:15:19,550 --> 01:15:20,983 The success of Deep Throat 1404 01:15:21,051 --> 01:15:23,611 created enormous demand for hardcore, 1405 01:15:23,687 --> 01:15:25,746 that new technology could now satisfy 1406 01:15:25,823 --> 01:15:27,950 and avoid all regulation. 1407 01:15:28,392 --> 01:15:31,589 The phenomenal sales of home videocassette machines 1408 01:15:31,662 --> 01:15:34,460 have opened up a new market for erotic films. 1409 01:15:34,532 --> 01:15:37,592 It's a market that barely existed a couple of years ago. 1410 01:15:37,668 --> 01:15:40,569 But today, 30 to 50 percent of the tapes 1411 01:15:40,671 --> 01:15:42,832 available for play in these machines 1412 01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:44,840 are hardcore pornography. 1413 01:15:54,485 --> 01:15:57,921 Gerry Damiano, I think, really thought 1414 01:15:58,255 --> 01:16:01,986 that porn was going to merge into, kind of, Hollywood films. 1415 01:16:06,397 --> 01:16:08,592 That porn movies 1416 01:16:08,666 --> 01:16:11,066 were gonna just get bigger and bigger budgets 1417 01:16:11,135 --> 01:16:13,968 and become more like feature films with hardcore sex. 1418 01:16:14,204 --> 01:16:18,106 Looked like it was going to burst itself into something, into an art form. 1419 01:16:18,208 --> 01:16:19,300 That didn't happen. 1420 01:16:19,410 --> 01:16:21,173 In fact, just the opposite happened. 1421 01:16:21,345 --> 01:16:24,473 Instead, it dwindled in-into a mediocre commodity. 1422 01:16:28,085 --> 01:16:31,054 With the advent of the video camera, 1423 01:16:31,188 --> 01:16:35,056 it got to be so easy to... to shoot X-rated video 1424 01:16:35,225 --> 01:16:37,284 that ev-everybody could do it. 1425 01:16:37,394 --> 01:16:39,692 And then, the only ones that did it 1426 01:16:39,763 --> 01:16:42,459 were the ones that could do it cheaper and cheaper, 1427 01:16:42,533 --> 01:16:44,433 for less and less and less money. 1428 01:16:48,939 --> 01:16:51,169 They were... they were nothing. 1429 01:16:51,241 --> 01:16:54,039 It was just one sex scene after another. 1430 01:16:54,144 --> 01:16:56,510 And it... it sort of killed itself. 1431 01:17:00,551 --> 01:17:03,019 I couldn't make that kind of film. 1432 01:17:03,187 --> 01:17:06,020 Because there was... there was no reason to. 1433 01:17:06,757 --> 01:17:09,282 It became a... it became a factory. 1434 01:17:11,528 --> 01:17:13,120 It was over. 1435 01:17:13,197 --> 01:17:15,791 You didn't need filmmakers anymore. 1436 01:17:20,804 --> 01:17:22,999 As the adult industry grew, 1437 01:17:23,107 --> 01:17:25,132 it neither needed the rebel filmmaker 1438 01:17:25,242 --> 01:17:26,607 who had pioneered it 1439 01:17:26,677 --> 01:17:29,544 nor heeded the feminist protest against it. 1440 01:17:29,647 --> 01:17:31,808 So finding herself redundant, 1441 01:17:31,882 --> 01:17:34,908 Linda Lovelace moved with her family to Denver 1442 01:17:34,985 --> 01:17:37,215 to try and start a new life. 1443 01:17:37,921 --> 01:17:39,548 Um, that's Mom at her desk. 1444 01:17:39,623 --> 01:17:42,057 Uh, she was the manager of the mailroom. 1445 01:17:44,094 --> 01:17:46,392 She was proud of her new desk. 1446 01:17:46,797 --> 01:17:47,957 Um... 1447 01:17:48,332 --> 01:17:50,732 They fired her when they found out about LL. 1448 01:17:50,801 --> 01:17:52,462 It happened a lot. 1449 01:17:57,741 --> 01:17:59,299 You know, I've lost two jobs 1450 01:17:59,410 --> 01:18:01,571 because of the name Linda Lovelace. 1451 01:18:01,645 --> 01:18:04,375 And, uh, that-that's kind of... 1452 01:18:04,448 --> 01:18:05,574 That hurts. 1453 01:18:05,649 --> 01:18:08,015 You know, I was always defending myself 1454 01:18:08,085 --> 01:18:10,883 after, what, 25 years. 1455 01:18:11,321 --> 01:18:13,881 I don't have to do that too much anymore. 1456 01:18:13,957 --> 01:18:16,653 So I've decided it's time for me to do what I can 1457 01:18:16,727 --> 01:18:18,627 to earn an income 1458 01:18:19,263 --> 01:18:22,755 from, uh, the abuse that I went through from the name. 1459 01:18:23,801 --> 01:18:25,393 Broke and out of work, 1460 01:18:25,469 --> 01:18:28,836 Linda returned to the worid she had once condemned. 1461 01:18:33,077 --> 01:18:35,545 You know, I think it's kind of nice looking sexy 1462 01:18:35,612 --> 01:18:37,341 and... and still looking attractive at 51. 1463 01:18:37,414 --> 01:18:41,009 So, I didn't feel there was anything wrong with doing it. 1464 01:18:41,385 --> 01:18:43,114 Many feminists who have written, 1465 01:18:43,187 --> 01:18:44,484 you know, books... 1466 01:18:44,555 --> 01:18:48,321 And they're always using the name Linda Lovelace, and what happened to me. 1467 01:18:48,392 --> 01:18:50,917 I don't get any royalties from that. 1468 01:18:51,495 --> 01:18:54,293 And it doesn't take much to keep me happy. 1469 01:18:54,364 --> 01:18:56,525 You know? I get to be with my grandchildren, 1470 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,160 around my children, and that's my joy. 1471 01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:14,947 She died penniless. Didn't have a dime. 1472 01:19:15,419 --> 01:19:16,545 Didn't have a dime. 1473 01:19:20,991 --> 01:19:22,288 And they all got rich. 1474 01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:24,020 They all got their hands in the pocket. 1475 01:19:29,299 --> 01:19:32,427 Fuck me harder, harder, harder. 1476 01:19:33,203 --> 01:19:35,671 Sex is a force, it's a force like lava. 1477 01:19:35,739 --> 01:19:38,833 And there haven't been too many successful engineering projects 1478 01:19:38,942 --> 01:19:40,739 about diverting the flow of lava. 1479 01:19:43,313 --> 01:19:46,339 Did I ever see the movie Deep Throat? No. 1480 01:19:46,483 --> 01:19:47,609 Should I? 1481 01:19:47,718 --> 01:19:50,585 No. That's with, um, that lady who died. 1482 01:19:50,654 --> 01:19:51,746 What's her name? 1483 01:19:52,156 --> 01:19:54,090 No, I have not seen it. 1484 01:19:59,363 --> 01:20:03,322 Deep Throat forged the sexual revolution 1485 01:20:04,701 --> 01:20:06,100 for good or bad. 1486 01:20:06,170 --> 01:20:07,797 It led to the porno business. 1487 01:20:07,905 --> 01:20:12,205 Linda Lovelace turned it, and Deep Throat turned it, into an industry. 1488 01:20:12,409 --> 01:20:13,569 And like it or hate it, 1489 01:20:13,677 --> 01:20:15,838 that's what she's gonna be remembered for, forever. 1490 01:20:18,415 --> 01:20:21,851 Porn really does have a yucky feel to it today. 1491 01:20:23,020 --> 01:20:26,478 Part of it, I think, that was lost is this, a certain innocence. 1492 01:20:26,590 --> 01:20:29,150 For that brief moment, porn was part of 1493 01:20:29,226 --> 01:20:31,387 discovery, curiosity, 1494 01:20:32,362 --> 01:20:33,590 change. 1495 01:20:34,464 --> 01:20:36,295 Today it's different. 1496 01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:38,393 What happened 1497 01:20:38,468 --> 01:20:41,403 was that a very cynical pornography industry 1498 01:20:41,471 --> 01:20:44,406 came in on the heels of the First Amendment 1499 01:20:44,474 --> 01:20:47,671 and began coining money hand over fist. 1500 01:20:49,179 --> 01:20:52,148 So, it changed the nature of... of pornographic sex, 1501 01:20:52,216 --> 01:20:53,945 from art to money. 1502 01:20:56,386 --> 01:20:59,412 Money is not interested in the little alleys 1503 01:20:59,756 --> 01:21:01,917 of endeavor... of artistic endeavor. 1504 01:21:02,125 --> 01:21:04,252 It wants the main highway. 1505 01:21:10,634 --> 01:21:12,727 It's a really dramatic fact 1506 01:21:12,803 --> 01:21:15,601 that we have gone from people staring up at a marquee 1507 01:21:15,706 --> 01:21:17,469 and thinking "What can deep throat mean? 1508 01:21:17,574 --> 01:21:19,439 Surely not what I'm thinking" 1509 01:21:19,509 --> 01:21:22,808 to kids who don't consider it sex. 1510 01:21:31,788 --> 01:21:35,121 They perverted it instead of improving it. 1511 01:21:36,493 --> 01:21:38,825 They took a beautiful thing that God gave mankind, 1512 01:21:38,896 --> 01:21:41,831 and they perverted it. And the results are obvious. 1513 01:21:41,899 --> 01:21:43,389 All you have to do is look around. 1514 01:21:49,973 --> 01:21:51,964 Deep Throat's legacy goes beyond 1515 01:21:52,075 --> 01:21:55,340 the sexually saturated culture that surrounds us today 1516 01:21:55,412 --> 01:21:58,279 and reaches back to the beginnings of a culture war 1517 01:21:58,348 --> 01:22:00,748 that divides us as never before. 1518 01:22:14,197 --> 01:22:17,030 Deep Throat was less about the joys of oral sex 1519 01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:20,297 than it was about the freedom to speak out against shame 1520 01:22:20,404 --> 01:22:21,735 and hypocrisy. 1521 01:22:22,739 --> 01:22:25,503 The FCC has fined 169 stations to pay... 1522 01:22:25,575 --> 01:22:27,668 Congress is also cracking down... 1523 01:22:27,778 --> 01:22:29,609 Three Supreme Court justices 1524 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,547 are expected to retire over the next four years. 1525 01:22:32,616 --> 01:22:34,777 Each of these 169... 1526 01:22:39,089 --> 01:22:42,820 Today, there are people in the Department of Justice 1527 01:22:42,893 --> 01:22:46,590 in high places, sympathetic with obscenity laws. 1528 01:22:47,364 --> 01:22:49,059 I think today 1529 01:22:49,933 --> 01:22:52,458 the climate is even more ripe 1530 01:22:52,803 --> 01:22:55,567 for vigorous enforcement of obscenity laws. 1531 01:22:57,474 --> 01:22:59,806 Now if we could get these terrorists to go away 1532 01:23:01,044 --> 01:23:03,342 And quit taking up so much time of the, 1533 01:23:03,413 --> 01:23:05,904 uh, of the Department of Justice... 1534 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,212 All right? 1535 01:23:11,288 --> 01:23:12,414 Thank you. 1536 01:23:12,489 --> 01:23:13,786 You're welcome. 1537 01:23:39,216 --> 01:23:43,243 The changing of sunlight 1538 01:23:44,554 --> 01:23:46,454 To moonlight 1539 01:23:46,523 --> 01:23:49,492 Reflections of my life 1540 01:23:51,695 --> 01:23:55,153 Oh, how they fill my eyes 1541 01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:02,104 The greetings 1542 01:24:02,706 --> 01:24:06,733 Of people in trouble 1543 01:24:07,277 --> 01:24:10,610 Reflections of my life 1544 01:24:12,382 --> 01:24:15,943 Oh, how they fill my mind 1545 01:24:20,424 --> 01:24:23,484 All my sorrows 1546 01:24:25,362 --> 01:24:28,729 Sad tomorrows 1547 01:24:30,534 --> 01:24:33,594 Take me back 1548 01:24:33,837 --> 01:24:36,806 To my own home 1549 01:24:40,710 --> 01:24:45,613 All my cryings, All my cryings 1550 01:24:45,849 --> 01:24:49,683 Feel I'm dying, dying 1551 01:24:50,887 --> 01:24:53,822 Take me back 1552 01:24:54,124 --> 01:24:56,957 To my own home 1553 01:25:00,764 --> 01:25:04,222 All my sorrows 1554 01:25:05,635 --> 01:25:08,798 Sad tomorrows 1555 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,633 To this day, 1556 01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:12,867 people ask me to see Deep Throat. 1557 01:25:12,976 --> 01:25:14,841 And they all, you know... 1558 01:25:14,911 --> 01:25:16,742 When they refer to Artie, you know, 1559 01:25:16,813 --> 01:25:18,747 he has a deep throat, so. 1560 01:25:19,149 --> 01:25:21,947 They say, "You know the guy with the deep throat, you know? 1561 01:25:22,018 --> 01:25:24,350 "He's the one that did Deep Throat. " 1562 01:25:25,055 --> 01:25:28,422 We always have to emphasize that we didn't do it, you know. 1563 01:25:28,492 --> 01:25:31,552 We just distributed it. Because, he wouldn't... 1564 01:25:31,628 --> 01:25:33,926 I don't think he would... Would you ever do that? 1565 01:25:33,997 --> 01:25:35,794 I wouldn't know how. I knew it! 1566 01:25:35,866 --> 01:25:38,664 But if you did know how, would you do it? 1567 01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:41,569 You have to think about that? 1568 01:25:41,671 --> 01:25:42,797 Hey. 1569 01:25:42,906 --> 01:25:45,875 All my sorrows 1570 01:25:45,976 --> 01:25:48,877 Sad tomorrows 1571 01:25:50,914 --> 01:25:53,576 Take me back 1572 01:25:54,017 --> 01:25:56,577 To my own home 1573 01:25:56,653 --> 01:25:58,416 Okay. Are we finished? 1574 01:26:00,657 --> 01:26:02,318 All my sorrows# 1575 01:26:03,894 --> 01:26:07,421 Now I'm gonna tell you 1576 01:26:08,198 --> 01:26:11,793 The way it has to be 1577 01:26:12,402 --> 01:26:16,429 And if you pay attention 1578 01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:20,867 I'm sure that you will see 1579 01:26:22,145 --> 01:26:25,478 Just relax your muscles 1580 01:26:26,183 --> 01:26:29,675 And once you've hit that spot 1581 01:26:31,188 --> 01:26:34,919 Keep right on pushin' 1582 01:26:35,258 --> 01:26:38,989 Then give it all you've got 1583 01:26:40,297 --> 01:26:43,892 Now we've found your tinkler 1584 01:26:44,534 --> 01:26:48,231 The solution is quite clear 1585 01:26:49,105 --> 01:26:53,269 For if we both can hit it now 1586 01:26:53,944 --> 01:26:57,641 The bells you'll surely hear# 1587 01:28:13,056 --> 01:28:15,650 Helen, there's got to be more to life 1588 01:28:15,725 --> 01:28:18,023 Than screwing around. 1589 01:28:22,565 --> 01:28:24,430 I mean, there should be more to sex 1590 01:28:24,501 --> 01:28:27,231 Than a lot of little tingles. 1591 01:28:29,372 --> 01:28:31,840 There should be bells ringing, 1592 01:28:31,908 --> 01:28:35,275 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 1593 01:28:42,852 --> 01:28:44,649 Find the solution. 1594 01:28:44,721 --> 01:28:45,745 Like what? 1595 01:28:45,822 --> 01:28:47,050 Like deep throat. 1596 01:28:47,123 --> 01:28:49,114 Deep throat. 1597 01:28:52,262 --> 01:28:54,753 Deep throat. 1598 01:29:01,104 --> 01:29:02,799 Dr. Young. 1599 01:29:06,543 --> 01:29:08,977 Deep throat. 1600 01:29:11,181 --> 01:29:12,239 Dr. Young 1601 01:29:12,315 --> 01:29:14,681 Deep throat. 1602 01:29:17,954 --> 01:29:20,354 Deep throat. 1603 01:29:30,767 --> 01:29:34,726 Oh, Dr. Young. 1604 01:29:35,305 --> 01:30:35,791 OpenSubtitles.org AP stops working soon, but not for VIP members -> osdb.link/vip 123876

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