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I was
a detective chief superintendent,

head of crime,
for Cleveland Police.

As a senior investigator,

you're effectively the conductor
of the investigative orchestra.

So you oversee
the whole of the investigation

and all the associated
lines of inquiry.

The incident room
is the nerve centre

of the investigation.
You live and breathe it.

This is Julie Hogg. She's 22.

She lived in Grange Avenue
at Billingham.

She was estranged from her husband

and she had a three-year-old son,
Kevin.

She'd been reported missing
in the November of 1989.

NARRATOR: The incident room

is at the heart of
any major police inquiry.

The incident room is 24 hours a day,

seven days a week running,
to catch the killer.

A place where the most
shocking crimes are unravelled.

There was a skull,
shoulder bone and clavicle

found lying in the open.

This may be part of a series.

And he may strike again.

Suspects are located...

You aren't gonna believe this.
We've got a hit. It's 100%.

...and murderers are interrogated.

This is
a different beast altogether.

'Did you kill Julie Hogg?'

He was obviously thinking,
"If I make a mistake here,

"I'm gonna face life in prison."

Step into the shoes of detectives
hunting down ruthless killers.

The monsters inside -
that's the bit you can't see.

He's a man whose violence
knows no end.

This is the incident room.

We've got blood, we've got DNA.

We've got witnesses.
We've got everything.

But we've got nothing.

In this episode,
a small town with two murders.

The first will make history...

None of us had any idea

that this case would change
the course of English law.

...by bringing a killer to justice
who thought he was untouchable.

He was in local pubs bragging -
he got away with the perfect murder.

It was horrendous.
Absolutely horrendous.

Having interviewed
quite a number of murderers,

you do get a feel for when

you're speaking to somebody
who is innocent or guilty.

The second will remain unsolved
more than 30 years later.

I believe that
there are still people alive

who know what happened to my sister.

I just hope, at some point,
the killer is found.

Breaking news
at the top of the hour.

A 22-year-old mother of one
from Billingham

has been reported missing since
the early hours of Thursday morning.

1989...

and the tight-knit community
of Billingham

is shocked by the disappearance
of a young woman called Julie Hogg.

Cleveland Police
launch an investigation.

The last sighting of Julie alive

was at about half past one
in the morning.

She worked as a pizza-delivery
assistant at a local pizza shop.

She was given a lift home
by one of the proprietors

and was last seen
walking up the path

to the front door of her house
and letting herself into the house.

At about 1:30 in the morning.

We knew she'd used the keys to
go into the house, the front door,

because the owner of the shop

had seen her walk up the path
and put the key in the door.

Those keys were missing
at the time that Julie disappeared.

Julie's disappearance had been
reported by her mother, Ann Ming,

who was looking after her grandson,
Kevin, for the night.

I rang early on, about half seven.

When I got no reply,
I just thought she'd overslept.

And when I went to the house,
everything was locked.

All the curtains were closed
and doors locked.

And she wasn't there.

I just didn't know where she was.
No idea.

My gut feeling straightaway
told me something was wrong.

Ann goes
in front of the news cameras

to record a desperate appeal
for Julie to come home.

TV: 'Her parents are taking care
of her three-year-old son Kevin,

'who was staying with them
on the night she disappeared.'

She would never just go off
and leave Kevin, never, at all.

'Just please phone anybody.'

Will you just let us know
you're alive, Julie? That's all.

Takes you right back,
you know, to that day.

It was just so out of character.

I mean, nobody would go and leave

a young child like that,
really, you know.

She loved Kevin.

It's just looking at a child,
who's innocent

and completely unaware
of what's going on.

Quite tragic, really.

Police have concluded their search

of the home of 22-year-old mother
Julie Hogg.

There remains no sign of her
since she went missing.

Police are analysing video
taken from the property for clues.

Three months after
my mum had disappeared, my, erm...

...gran and my dad
got the keys back for the house.

Bearing in mind, the house had been
shut up for three months,

put the central heating on.

And, erm...

...my dad said there was
a dreadful smell in the bathroom.

So I'm going up
the stairs to the bathroom.

Inside I'm screaming, "Please, God,
don't let it be Julie.”

So, as I leaned
over the bath to smell the wall,

my knees went against
the bath panelling,

where it was loose.

It, like, wafted a bit
and the smell came out.

So he said, "I'll go and
take the bath panel off,”

so he got a screwdriver
and he went upstairs.

And, erm...

And they found my mum
under the bath.

HE CLEARS THROAT

I was absolutely hysterical.
I just...

I ran downstairs and said,

"She's under the bath,
she's under the bath."”

That was the start
of a living nightmare

that you wouldn't wish on an enemy.

The major-investigation
incident room in Stockton-on-Tees

is put into operation.

MARK BRAITHWAITE: There'd be
30 detectives working on the case.

Search teams, forensic officers,
detectives interviewing witnesses,

detectives who were members
of the suspect-interview teams.

That's where
all the information comes in.

There'll be boards up
with relevant information.

It'll be a busy place.

Julie's death is classified
as a category-A murder.

We've got to keep an open mind in
any murder investigation,

right from the outset,
and follow the evidence.

Julie's remains
had been wrapped in a blanket.

Her body had been hidden
behind the bath panel.

It's a deliberate killing,
because the body had been concealed.

We started to try and build up
a picture of Julie's lifestyle -

who she may have associated with,
who her contacts were

whether indeed any suspects were,
let us say, closer to home.

The fundamental question
for the inquiry team -

who killed Julie Hogg?

Door-to-door inquiries
are carried out.

Public appeals go out
around the town.

Informants are contacted.

We're just approaching
Billingham Rugby Football club.

This was a key location
for the investigation,

cos there were several persons
of interest - all local men,

a relatively small group of friends,
all known to each other.

They played rugby with each other.
They socialised with each other.

They were known locally
as the Crazy Gang,

because of some of the antics
they got up to,

both on and off the pitch.

WHISTLE BLOWS

One by one, the Crazy Gang
are brought in for interview.

They needed to be
what we call TIED -

trace, interview and eliminate.

That's an investigative process
that we go through

with any person who becomes
a suspect in an inquiry.

In the early stages
of those interviews,

it wasn't clear at all
who the prime suspect was.

In fact, each of the interview teams
potentially thought that

their suspect might be THE suspect
for Julie's murder.

Statements are taken
and alibis checked,

until just one man
cannot be eliminated.

As pieces of intelligence
and evidence came in,

all of those indicators
started pointing to one of those men

as the prime suspect.

And that man was Billy Dunlop.

Police are building their case
against Dunlop,

not knowing that soon

he will be linked to the murder of
another young woman in Billingham.

In February 1990,

a murder investigation is under way

in the incident room
at Stockton Police Station.

The body of missing 22-year-old
Julie Hogg

has been found underneath her bath,

and detectives have identified
Billy Dunlop as the key suspect.

Every case is different.

Every case has its own
particular challenges.

You mustn't
take your eye off the fact

you've got a victim
and a victim's family.

You live and breathe it.

Challenge everything.
Believe nothing.

Search for the truth.

Witnesses reveal that
the key suspect, Billy Dunlop,

has known Julie for some time
before her disappearance.

It was clear to the inquiry team
as a fairly early stage

that there had been
some physical relationship

involving Dunlop and Julie.

Dunlop was living in lodgings
just round the corner,

a two-minute walk
from Julie's house.

On the night Julie disappeared,
when she was killed,

he'd been involved in

a violent incident
at the rugby club.

He received quite a nasty eye injury

and he needed to go to hospital
for some treatment.

From there,
his whereabouts are unknown.

There was no firm alibi for Dunlop.

His landlord
subsequently gave an account

that he had fallen asleep
on the sofa.

When he woke up,
about half one in the morning,

he went up to bed
and he glanced in the room

where Dunlop should be sleeping

and there was nobody in the bed.
The bed was made up.

And at eight o'clock
the following morning,

when another friend came
to collect him for work, he WAS.

Maybes Billy Dunlop
was still at hospital,

maybes he was at the neighbours'
around the corner,

maybes he was Julie's house.

Only he knows that.

With the pressure on
to find her killer,

detectives learn more about
Julie's background from her family.

That's Julie when she was two.

See was a good little baby,

good little girl. Quiet.

Never caused any problems
when she was little.

She'd be 17 there.

That's when she went through
her punk-rock phase.

Julie's son Kevin,
then a three-year-old boy,

is left with
only fragments of memories.

KEVIN:
My mum liked to dance and party.

Favourite songs
were from Boy George,

which I can't stand his music
if I'm perf...

Terrible music.

She was walking round
with fingerless gloves on.

And she used to get
her hair done in ringlets,

like Boy George.

And, oh, she was always, like,
height of fashion

and wore, like, way-out clothes,
really, you know.

But that was just Julie.

That was the last one...

...of me and my mam.

Kevin was only three on that.

I never dreamt
that was gonna be the last...

last picture she'd ever have taken
with her son.

The things that I remember
are the...

The wrong things to remember.

Crime-scene investigators
attached to the murder inquiry

have swept Julie's house
from top to bottom.

MARK: You need to harvest
as much evidence, forensic evidence,

from that crime scene
as you possibly can.

It's now down to the forensic lab
to examine what they've found.

Julie had been dead for
approximately three months

before the body was discovered.

This would have an impact
on finding some evidence types.

So, when Julie's body was found,

her body was wrapped in a blanket.

The fibres that was found
on the blanket

that Julie's remains had been
wrapped in were identical

to fibres in Billingham
Rugby Football Club shirts.

But all of the persons of interest
had the same sort of shirt on,

so that couldn't be conclusively
nailed down

to one particular individual.

Semen was found on the blanket

and this was DNA-profiled,

and this gave a match to Mr Dunlop.

The presence of semen on the blanket

shows that he has left
his body fluid behind.

It doesn't show that he committed
the of fence of killing her.

The intimacy that he'd had with her
was quite a plausible defence.

Despite this,
the case against Dunlop is building.

A decision to arrest him is made
and he's brought into custody.

DS John Matthews is tasked with
interviewing the suspect.

The SI10 decided that he wanted
very experienced detective sergeants

to conduct that interview.

I had interviewed
a number of murderers

on numerous occasions prior to this.

The clock is now ticking.

Dunlop can be held for 24 hours.

Unless detectives have
compelling evidence,

he must then be released.

It was more or less
like a game of chess.

When the tape machine was off,
he would talk about sport.

He would talk to you
as if you were his best friend.

But when the tape machine
was switched on...

MACHINE BLEEPS

...he was completely different
because he was obviously thinking,

"If I make a mistake here,
I'm gonna face life in prison.”

Dunlop sticks to his story -

that he knows nothing
about Julie's murder.

You were never gonna get
an admission of guilt.

All of his answers
were aimed at proving,

from his perspective,
that he was innocent -

we've got the wrong person.

A specialist team led by a PolSA,
or police search advisor,

is brought in
to search his lodgings.

Nothing is found...

until the decision is taken
to lift the floorboards.

A search of that premise revealed
the keys to Julie's house

that had been hidden under
the floorboards in the kitchen area.

They were well-hidden -

under floorboards,
secreted under a brick.

Whoever placed those keys there

did not intend anybody
to ever find them.

On the key was a key ring.
It was a Playboy pattern on it.

And on one of the sides,

there was a fingerprint
that matched Mr Dunlop.

When it was put to him

about the finding of the keys
and the key fob,

he was taken aback.

And he was stunned,

almost into silence
for a little while.

The major line of inquiry
at the time

was that Dunlop had been
at a strip show at the rugby club.

He was fired up sexually.

He was in drink.

He had been involved in
a violent, aggressive act

with another man at the rugby club.
He'd been to hospital.

He'd come back
and the primary theory

was that he'd then gone round
to Julie's,

killed Julie, secreted her body,

locked the door as he left,
took all the keys with him.

It was quite clear,
without a shadow of doubt,

that Billy Dunlop was guilty
of the murder of Julie Hogg.

Why did he keep the keys?

Was he gonna go back at some time...

...to move Julie's remains?

Was he keeping them as a trophy?
Who knows?

It was a major piece of evidence
for the prosecution case,

supported by
all the other pieces of evidence -

the fibres, the partial profile,
proximity,

Dunlop not being at his lodgings

at a time that he might otherwise
have been.

So all that evidence

was brought together.
The Crown Prosecution Service

determined there was enough
evidence to charge him with murder.

Dunlop is remanded to Durham Prison,

and a trial date is set for May 1991
at Newcastle Crown Court.

As the incident room
prepare the case,

Ann contemplates giving evidence
at her own daughter's murder trial.

Because I found Julie's body,
I was gonna have to be a witness,

and I'd never been
a witness in a court before.

It was very, very nerve-wracking.
Felt sick.

The defence -
he was trying to sort of say

about Julie being
very promiscuous.

I mean, I didn't know that
about her at all. I really didn't.

But no matter what she was,
she didn't deserve to die like that.

And it was very upsetting
because, you know,

at the end of the day,
she was our daughter.

Dunlop said, "I am innocent.

"I would never, ever
do anything like that. Never."

He'd never seen the key fob,
never touched it,

and we'd framed him
and put his fingerprints on it.

You know, his dad gave an interview

and said it just wasn't
his son's style to strangle someone.

If he used his fists,
that would be more like it.

That comes from his own dad.

He was very quietly spoken

and he sounded very convincing.

If I didn't know he was the killer,

I would've believed
what he was saying.

The jury fails to reach a verdict.

A retrial is ordered,

but the second hearing
is also unable to decide

if Dunlop is innocent or guilty.

In this particular case,

in both the first trial
and the second trial,

the jury were not sure.

And that's only right.

If the jury's not sure...
that's only right,

that they shouldn't
bring in a verdict.

But ultimately, the judge
at the second trial acquitted Dunlop

and allowed him
to walk out of the court a free man.

Dunlop leaves the cells
knowing that double jeopardy,

a law intended
to protect the innocent,

means he can never be tried again
for Julie's murder.

Could not believe it.

Two trials,
going through all of that,

and you walk free.

Dunlop gives an interview
to local TV news.

For 20 months, the police have been
looking in the wrong direction.

And I would like them now
to reopen this case

and start looking in
the right direction.

What do you think of the murderer?

Well, I haven't got words that, er,

could explain, express, that person.

But what I would like to say is,

I'd like to thank everybody

who stood by me through this...

this 20 months of hell

In the incident room,

there's frustration that the man
they believe murdered Julie

has walked free.

At the time, there were no other
viable lines of inquiry

for any other person of interest
associated with Julie.

But it was only a matter of time

before Dunlop came back
to the attention of the police.

There's no time for detectives
to dwell,

as the unthinkable has happened -

another body has been found.

'Skeletal remains were found
earlier today

'on land near the chemical works.

'Police are once again searching
for a murderer in Billingham.'

There was a skull
found lying in the open,

not far from
where Julie Hogg was found.

The victim is another young woman.

And one of the last people
to see her alive is Billy Dunlop.

1991.

The key suspect in Julie Hogg's
brutal murder case, Billy Dunlop,

is free, after being acquitted.

In the incident room,
morale is at rock bottom.

As an investigative team,
we were very disappointed,

because we felt
that the prosecution case

was sufficiently strong enough
for a jury to convict him.

We were wrong.

Dunlop is soon out enjoying himself
around town,

confident the 800-year-old law
called double jeopardy

means he can never again be tried
for the murder of Julie.

Within weeks of his acquittal,

he was in local pubs bragging -
he got away with the perfect murder.

It was horrendous.
Absolutely horrendous.

Dunlop has been cleared
of one murder,

but his return to Bellingham

sees him embroiled
in a second investigation.

Two young boys
who'd been out with their air guns,

shooting on this land,
came across a skull

which was basically
just lying on the floor.

The police attended the scene

and there was a shoulder bone
and a clavicle

found lying in the open.

The bones and the skull

were forensically examined,

and they revealed
that it was Tina Bell.

Tina Bell was
an 18-year-old Billingham girl,

who lived with her parents,
Bob and Cath,

and also a brother and sister,
in Crescent Avenue.

Once more, a family from Billingham
faces the ordeal

of telling the family-liaison team
about a murdered relative.

My memories of Tina
are happy memories.

She was my big sister

and Tina was the one
who looked after us.

I was good at getting into trouble.

Tina was good at
getting me out of it.

She was quite a tomboy,

quite a strong personality,
shall we say?

The night Tina never came home,

I want to stay in the tent
in the garden.

And my parents wouldn't allow me
to stay on my own - I was too young.

The only way it could happen
is if I had a companion.

Tina volunteered to do it.

Her friend called to the door

and Tina decided that she was gonna
get some sweets

for her and I to share in the tent
while we sat up.

And she never came home.

Tina had disappeared
over ten months earlier.

In the incident room,

a timeline of her final hours
is established.

Detectives believe the killer
is likely to be a local man,

and it's critical
to know where and when

witnesses and suspects last saw
the victim.

Tina was in a flat in Mill Lane,

which is just here,
a short distance from her house.

She was in the flat
with Colin Bond,

Vince Robson and Billy Dunlop.

Essentially, Dunlop was one of
the last people to see her alive.

The only hard evidence
that police have

are the bone fragments
of Tina's skeleton.

Everything else is circumstantial.

There was various ideas -
theories, if you like -

around the skeletal remains.

The skull
was just lying on the surface

with the bones nearby.

But why they were there,
and like that,

still remains a bit of a mystery.

When Billy Dunlop is interviewed,

he denies any knowledge
of Tina's disappearance.

Billy Dunlop
is one of a number of people

that could have been involved
in Tina's murder.

There was other people
we uncovered

that equally could have
been involved.

JOHN: I've been told
by various members of the police

that Billy Dunlop, Vince Robson,

Colin Bond and David Courtney

are four suspects of real interest
to the police.

Of the four suspects,

there's only one still breathing,

and that is Billy Dunlop.

David Courtney, we know,

was convicted of horrendous crimes
against children.

Tina was known to him
and his family.

Tina had stay-overs there
with his elder daughters.

So, although Dunlop is the only one
that's still breathing,

the other three
still may hold the truth.

Tina's case remains open

and her family is left
without answers.

We think that Tina died
the night she left

and, for peace of mind,
that's what we have to believe.

Because believing
something different is...

too hard to think of.

The detectives now have two
unresolved murders in Billingham.

And in neither case
has anyone been brought to justice.

MARK: After his acquittal,

Billy Dunlop came back
to the Billingham area,

effectively settled
into normal life.

But it was clear to me and others

that he would be back in front of
the courts

sooner rather than later
for some assault. And he was.

In 1997, Dunlop attacks

a former girlfriend and
her new boyfriend in a flat.

After recovering,
Shaun Fairweather gave an interview

in which he described the sudden,
violent nature of the assault

in horrifying detail.

He crept into the flat, bit like...
as quiet as he could.

I didn't notice him right till
more or less the last minute.

I just turned round for a second

and just caught a glimpse of him

swinging the bat towards me.

And that first blow -

that was the one
that knocked me out.

He attacked a previous partner
and her new boyfriend, Shaun.

Dunlop had taken badly to it

and decided to exact
some retribution to both of them.

The injuries sustained
by Shaun Fairweather

were produced by a baseball bat.

And the baseball bat
was swung with such force

that the baseball bat broke.

He broke all of his facial bones
to such an extent

that he required
significant maxillofacial surgery

to reconstruct the bones
in his face.

Shaun's calm voice
made the injuries he suffered

and the treatment he needed
all the more shocking.

My facial skeleton was detached
from my skull.

Like, near enough every bone
in my face was broke.

The roof of my mouth
was snapped in half.

He attacked the female,
stabbed her several times.

She was lucky to survive.

Once again,
detectives prepare a file

for the Crown Prosecution Service,

involving Billy Dunlop.

He was charged, ultimately, with
attempted murder of both of them.

And prior to court,
the Crown accepted the lesser pleas

of causing grievous bodily harm,
which he pleaded guilty to.

We got a phone call
from one of the police officers

who'd been involved with our case,

and he said, "We've got him.

"He's gonna be charged with
attempted murder of two people.”

So... I said to my husband, I said,

"Well, at least
he's gonna be off the streets.”

Dunlop is sentenced
to just seven years in prison.

What kind of man can carry out
an attack so vicious like that?

What he'd done to these two people
was horrific.

He's a man whose violence
knows no end, really.

The extent to which he set about
both of these individuals -

they could have easily died,
either or both of them.

They may well have done
had there not been an intervention

by some friends
they'd arranged to meet,

who turned up
whilst the attack was in progress.

Had they not intervened, who knows?

One or the other, or both of them,
might not have survived.

While serving his sentence for GBH,

Dunlop remains confident
that double jeopardy means

he's beyond the reach of justice
for the murder of Julie Hogg.

He begins boasting once more.

The intelligence that came to
the notice of Cleveland Police was

that Billy Dunlop admitted
responsibility for killing Julie

whilst he was in prison.

By now, Duffey is leading
a cold-case review into Tina Bell,

in which Dunlop is still a witness
and potential suspect.

He's given the job of investigating
Dunlop's apparent prison confession

to Julie's murder.

The obvious of fence that Dunlop
was committing was perjury,

cos, obviously,
if it was true what he was saying,

he lied in court.

So we decided to try
and get some more evidence.

And the best way we thought
we could do that was by

seeing if we could run an
undercover operation in the prison.

So we decided at the time
that we'll try and work

with a prison officer.

She wore a wire to
go in and talk to Dunlop,

and Dunlop was talking in
general terms a lot of the time

about his home life
and things like that.

But he did talk about Julie
and the fact that he killed her...

...and the fact, also,
that he'd lied in court.

Detective Dave Duffey
would now confront Dunlop.

He knows
it's the best chance they have

to discover
what actually happened to Julie.

But he also knows
Dunlop has the right to stay silent.

MACHINE BLEEPS

In a tense confrontation,

the detective chooses to pose
the ultimate question.

In 1999,

Billy Dunlop is being interviewed
once more about Julie Hogg's murder,

eight years after he was
formally cleared of killing her.

He believes the double jeopardy law

means he cannot be tried again
for the of fence.

That's probably the main question
answered, really, there and there.

And all the hard work
that we've done is justified.

He's admitted to killing Julie Hogg.

Dunlop thinks he is protected
from a murder conviction,

but his admission that he lied

means detectives have the chance
to send him down for perjury.

One of the things I was conscious of

was getting some sort of closure
for Ann

and, clearly, Dunlop wanted
to say something around the murder,

so we just let him talk.

ANN:
It was horrible listening to it.

I just felt really... just awful,

really, you know,
listening to the questions

what Dave Duffey was asking him

and then listening to the tape
with his voice on it.

It was awful.

Dunlop is convicted
of two counts of perjury.

It brings him
a new six-year sentence,

on top of the seven years he is
serving for grievous bodily harm.

However, he still cannot be charged
again with the murder of Julie.

The hard part was that she was
under that bath for three months

and we were doing appeals
on the television and everything,

and that Dunlop sat and knew
exactly where her body was.

He's an evil killer -
cold, calculating, psychopath.

I said to my husband,
"I am not doing nothing about this.

"I'm gonna look into this law."

And that's when I decided
that I was gonna set about

trying to look at this law
and get it changed.

I first met Ann Ming
more than 20 years ago,

when I was making a film with her,

and I've been a family friend
ever since.

She's certainly one of the most
remarkable people I've ever met.

And, certainly,
Billy Dunlop underestimated her.

She was absolutely clear in her mind
back then, all those years ago,

that she would get justice
for Julie.

I wrote a letter to Jack Straw,

outlining our case
and what had happened,

and we got an appointment to go
and see him at the Home Office.

And when I went in, I took...
I had a picture of Julie,

and a picture of Dunlop that'd been
in the local paper.

And I said, "That's our daughter,
that's the man who's killed her.

"We're not happy
with the perjury sentence.

"It needs to be changed.”

Ann could never bring Julie back

but believes the man
who killed her daughter

should face justice for her murder.

All she needs to do is change a law

that has stood
since the time of the Magna Carta.

Sometimes you hear this phrase

that it's important
to speak truth to power.

Well, that's Ann Ming to a tee.

She met lords, she met politicians,

she met senior police officers,
and she was daunted by none of them.

I always recall her saying to me,
"An 800-year-old law?

"It's stupid.
It's not gonna stop me.”

'News from London,
where Teesside mother Ann Ming

'has changed British legal history.

'After years of campaigning,

'she's managed to overturn the law
on double jeopardy

'and the man previously cleared of
murdering her daughter

'can be tried again.

'The court has ruled
that defendants can face a new trial

'if new evidence comes to light.'

I can't believe
what's happened today, now.

We've just come out of the court.

I just can't believe
it's happened now.

Hopefully, by the 17th anniversary
of Julie's death,

we'll finally have Billy Dunlop
convicted of her murder.

Just get a tissue.

Yeah. It was...
It was a good day, that.

I was speechless for, I think,
the first time there.

MARK: It was a momentous day.
Once the law had been changed,

I felt that was
mission accomplished for Ann.

We, Cleveland Police,

then had the job
of navigating the judicial system,

paving the way for Dunlop
to be charged a third time

with Julie's murder.

Once more, the incident room begins
preparing a file

against Billy Dunlop.

I viewed this case

very much as unfinished business
for Cleveland Police.

In 2006,
Billy Dunlop makes legal history

when he becomes the first person
to be charged

with a murder he has already been
cleared of.

A nurse, a wife and mother
from Middlesbrough

had managed to overturn
an 800-year-old law.

That meant that the man
who'd killed her daughter

could be tried for a third time.

And he would go to court
not just at any court,

but at the Old Bailey.

Felt a bit nervous cos I thought,

"Will he definitely plead guilty?”

| can't tell you what it felt like
inside, when he said "guilty".

And I thought, "You've put us
through all of this?

"You could've confessed
to the killing in the beginning."

When it came to sentencing,
Ann just fixed him in her gaze.

He never looked back.

He couldn't bring himself
to even look at her.

I think he realised at that point
that she was his nemesis.

I wanted him to know
that I was watching him

and I'd done everything I could
to get justice.

And even though it all them years,

I got there in the end.

'It's taken nearly 17 years

'but we finally heard Billy Dunlop
confess in court

'that he's murdered our daughter.

'So we're just hoping now
he gets a decent sentence.'

To see a woman who was
previously living an anonymous life

in the North East of England,

just going about
her day-to-day business,

take someone like Dunlop
and get him into the dock

of the highest criminal court
in the land was extraordinary.

He sentenced him
to life imprisonment

with a minimum term of 17 years.

It was a significant day.

It concluded what had been, really,

a roller coaster ride
of an investigation

that lasted
the best part of 18 years.

You feel a bit euphoric at first
because, you know, he's confessed,

he's got a life sentence with
a 17-year tariff,

and you felt euphoric.

But when you come home,
no different, is it?

Because she's still not there.

I really miss her.

You keep her memory alive because of
what happened to her, you know,

but I'd give anything
to have her back. Anything at all.

I was three years old.
I have second-hand memories.

I have very few photographs.

And... he just didn't rob
one person"s life -

he took a full family.

MARK: Billy Dunlop has been
a violent individual

from his formative years.

He's spent probably at least 50%
of his life in prison

for of fences of violence.

He's rightly in the secure estate
of the prison service,

which, in my view,
is where he should remain.

I hope he never gets out.

As long as I'm breathing breath,

I will do my best
to keep him in prison.

He's just an evil killer

who doesn't deserve any freedom.

JOHN: I believe that
there are still people alive

who know what happened to my sister,

and I'm begging them
to come forward.

It won't make me feel any better,

but I'll be able to stand
at Tina's grave and say,

"I got there, kidda.
I got what you deserved.”

Every year, us as a family are
gonna have to go to parole hearings

to say, "Is he safe to come out?"

He is not safe to come out.
And in my opinion, he never will be.

And I hope the parole board
are as sensible

when they make the decision.

Every time I watch a case
on the television,

when it's a retrial
due to double jeopardy,

I think to myself, "Well done, Ann."