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Continuing today's
hearing on future VA funding...
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the Senate Committee on
Veterans' Affairs...
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is called back to order.
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We'll hear from our
next witness.
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Will you please stand
and raise your right hand?
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My apologies.
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Please raise your right hand.
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Do you swear that the testimony
you're about to give...
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this committee will be the
truth, the whole truth...
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and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Please state your name.
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Private First Class Adam Green,
United States Army, retired.
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Mr. Green, I understand you've
prepared a statement?
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I have, sir.
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You may enter it into the record
at this time.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the
Committee...
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I want to thank you
for the opportunity...
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to speak with you today.
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I served in the military f...
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I'm sorry, if I could just...
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Sure, go ahead.
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Thank you, sir.
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I've always liked numbers.
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Whenever I have a hard time
wrapping my head around...
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something, I find that numbers
make things clearer for me.
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They help me understand
decisions that are made...
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and the impacts of those
decisions.
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So, if it's all right...
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I'd like the start with the
number 1.4 million.
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That's the number of men
and women...
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who are currently serving
in our military.
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555...
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that's how many days passed
before we invaded one country...
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after having been attacked
by another.
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19... is how old I was when
I enlisted.
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Three is the number of hours
that passed from the time...
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I arrived in Iraq to the time
our transport...
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was destroyed by an I.E.D.
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And then there's six.
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That's the number of inches the
piece of shrapnel was...
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that severed my spinal cord.
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The only problems with numbers
is they can be impersonal.
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A decision you made had a
life-changing impact on me...
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and a lot of soldiers like me.
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Now, I'm not a military expert.
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I don't know a whole lot
about geopolitical affairs.
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I'm just an ordinary American.
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And I understand that you've
asked me here...
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because you all have
some questions for me,
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but if it's all right, I'd like
to ask all of you a question.
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How the hell did this happen?
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My fellow citizens,
at this hour...
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American and coalition forces
are in the early stages...
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of military operations
to disarm Iraq, to free...
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its people and to defend
the world from grave danger.
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The start of the
campaign called Shock and Awe.
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Shock and Awe.
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- Shock and Awe.
- Shock and Awe, indeed.
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Air raid sirens
are going off in Baghdad...
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The massive
military operation...
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to topple Saddam Hussein
is now in effect.
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Firing 600 Cruise missiles...
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and every type of war plane
in the American arsenal.
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A fearsome display
of American military might.
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The scale of this attack...
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is considerably higher than
anything we've seen before.
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We're taking out
whole buildings...
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with these Cruise missiles.
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U.S. war planes unleashed...
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to promise massive bombardment
of Baghdad.
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3,000 Tomahawk
Cruise missiles...
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satellite-guided precision
bombs, laser-guided bombs.
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I think the
citizens of Baghdad know...
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exactly what the Pentagon
means by Shock and Awe.
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Just over the
Kuwait-Iraq border...
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we watched as columns of troops
moved into the country.
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They're well on their
way to Baghdad.
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They have met resistance.
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We can't leave the
television...
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every tank, every helicopter...
is that my son?
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Now Baghdad is
within striking distance...
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just a few short miles away...
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as U.S. troops make their final
push forward.
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We want to slaughter
them all...
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those invaders, their tombs
will be here in Iraq.
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If Saddam Hussein
is alive, he is quote...
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"Not in control of his military
and of his government."
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These are opening stages
of what will be a broad...
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and concerted campaign.
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Could be longer and more
difficult than some predict.
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And helping Iraqis achieve
a united, stable...
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and free country will require
our sustained commitment.
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And you can know that our
forces will be coming home...
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as soon as their work is done.
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Keep moving! Keep moving!
Let's go!
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- Where are they taking us?
- Shut up. Head down.
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Keep your mouth shut or I'll
blow your fucking head off.
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- All right, all right.
- Are you a soldier?
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- Journalist.
- Who do you work for?
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- Knight Ridder.
- Never heard of it.
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You should read more.
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What is your name?
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Jonathan Landay.
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Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
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Exercise complete.
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What you have just engaged in is
called The Gray Man Exercise.
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And what you have just
witnessed...
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is a colossal failure
of that exercise.
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If a journalist is captured...
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terrorists may keep you alive...
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in hopes of getting information
or exchanging you for a ransom.
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But if you give them a reason
to kill you, they will.
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The purpose of this exercise
is to teach you...
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how to avoid drawing the
attention of your captors.
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Hence the name, Gray Man.
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Can you untie me?
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This could save your life one
day, you understand?
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I do, I've been in 11 war zones,
I've been shot at...
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I've been held captive, I take
this very seriously.
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But if you don't untie me right
now, I may lose my job.
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And I'm fairly certain that
none of this training...
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is going to be very useful...
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when I'm mopping the floor
at Staples.
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Both of the twin towers...
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the World Trade Center in New
York's lower Manhattan...
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have been struck by planes this
morning within 20 minutes.
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First, it was the North Tower
that was struck...
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with a gaping hole left in two
sides of that building.
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Good God.
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20 minutes later, the second
building...
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the second tower in that World
Trade Center complex...
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I think we should keep Elizabeth
in school.
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Yeah, no, I think that's
a good idea.
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Why freak her out, huh?
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And I'll call Ali and Jennifer
as soon as the phones open up.
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- I love you.
- I love you.
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Okay.
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We should tell you that...
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we have gotten calls from
people...
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who live and work around the
Pentagon who have told us...
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that they have seen
something...
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that they have described
as an explosion.
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This is information we have not
been able to confirm.
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Get up.
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Sorry, Dad.
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Monday Night Football went long.
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Let's clean this place up.
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Trade Center
here in New York...
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have been hit by airplanes.
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In Washington, there is a large
fire at the Pentagon.
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The Pentagon has been
evacuated.
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And there is, you can see,
perhaps, the second tower...
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the front tower, the top
portion of which is collapsing.
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Good Lord.
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Lot of people going to need
a drink tonight.
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Soldiers drink free.
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There are no words.
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All federal office buildings
now...
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all federal office buildings
in Washington, D.C.
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are being evacuated as we speak
to you now.
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We are in the middle of an
extraordinary catastrophe.
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The most important things to
tell you if you just joined in is that it...
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what has all the
makings of an extraordinarily...
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well-planned terrorist attack
on both Washington and New York
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has taken place this morning.
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The Trade Centers here
in New York...
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the two World Trade Center
towers have collapsed...
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after being hit by planes.
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Yeah, this is John Walcott
from Knight Ridder.
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Is he there?
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Yeah, okay, well, tell him
I'll try him back later.
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Thank you.
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I just spoke with my wife.
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She and the kids are
afraid to leave the house.
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What are they doing over there?
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They're watching the White
House.
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To see if it gets hit?
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Yes.
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Oh, Jesus. All right, go home
to your family.
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And tell your colleagues that
maybe they want to stay away...
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from the windows, okay?
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- Thanks, John.
- Yeah.
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Okay. All right. Okay.
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Their working thesis is that
this is overseas terrorism...
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not domestic.
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Attention will quickly turn to
the bin Laden group...
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because it has long
tentacles.
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There are very few others that
could have pulled this off.
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Are we sending somebody
to New York?
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Ken Moore at Suvu was already up
there covering Wall Street.
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What's going on over at State?
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Powell's in Peru.
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They're working on getting
him home as soon as possible.
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All right, what we need to do
is track the President.
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Track his top people
and find out...
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who's responsible for all this.
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We need as many sources
at as many agencies...
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to go on the record and tell us
all what we know has to be true.
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Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda!
It's Al Qaeda.
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It's definitely Al Qaeda.
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What the hell are you wearing?
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Well, the wifey wanted
to evacuate...
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but she locked the cat
and the keys in the cars.
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So, I biked in.
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We need to know how
they pulled this off.
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Anybody needs to go home
to their family...
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feel free to do so.
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Just came from the family.
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Let's get to work.
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It's Walcott.
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Today, our fellow citizens,
our way of life...
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our very freedom, came under
attack in a series...
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of deliberate and deadly
terrorist acts.
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Adam, hand me the
Jameson, please.
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Yes, sir. Here you go.
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Thank you, son.
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It's on the house, gentlemen.
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Thanks.
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Dad's saying we're staying open
as late as they want.
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They must be scared.
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- They're Rangers.
- They're boys.
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Our military is powerful and
it's prepared.
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The search is underway
for those...
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who are behind these evil acts.
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I've directed the full
resources of our intelligence..
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and law enforcement communities
to find those responsible...
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and to bring them to justice.
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It's been 33 hours
since the terrible...
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and unprecedented attack
on the United States.
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There is, as we've said, an
enormous search and rescue...
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operation, and enormous and
intense criminal investigation.
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And we're just beginning
to understand...
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the extents of the catastrophe.
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I feel like I haven't
slept in a month.
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It's going to be a bunch
of zombies running this town.
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What do you know about
the preliminary plans...
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to go after bin Laden?
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I don't have anything to give
you on that yet.
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Ok, well, how long before we're
on the ground in Afghanistan...
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and how long do they project
we'll be there?
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Look, I'm trying to get answers
to the same questions you are.
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What I can say is, most of the
talk this morning...
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hasn't been about Afghanistan.
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Well, what's it been about?
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Iraq?
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I got it from a source at State
who got it from the Pentagon.
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In connection with the attacks?
251
00:14:08,552 --> 00:14:10,687
Crackpot theories from people
who don't know...
252
00:14:10,689 --> 00:14:11,987
what the hell they're talking
about.
253
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It was Rumsfeld.
254
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Really?
255
00:14:15,159 --> 00:14:17,593
Yeah, apparently, there's a lot
of people over at Defense...
256
00:14:17,595 --> 00:14:19,896
that think this had to be
State-sponsored.
257
00:14:19,898 --> 00:14:23,500
I mean, not just Rumsfeld,
there's also that smug...
258
00:14:23,502 --> 00:14:26,602
son of a bitch at the Defense
Policy Board...
259
00:14:26,604 --> 00:14:28,003
the Prince of Darkness?
260
00:14:28,005 --> 00:14:29,939
- Richard Perle.
- Right. Perle.
261
00:14:29,941 --> 00:14:32,174
And that neo-con over at the
Project...
262
00:14:32,176 --> 00:14:34,711
for the New American
whatever the fuck...
263
00:14:34,713 --> 00:14:36,045
New American Century,
Bill Kristol.
264
00:14:36,047 --> 00:14:37,881
That giant butthole,
Bill Kristol.
265
00:14:37,883 --> 00:14:41,751
And he's got to be creaming his
little jammies over this.
266
00:14:41,753 --> 00:14:43,586
Yeah, these think-tank boys...
267
00:14:43,588 --> 00:14:45,722
have been trying to push out
Saddam Hussein since '97.
268
00:14:45,724 --> 00:14:49,692
They have this crazy theory that
if they can just stick...
269
00:14:49,694 --> 00:14:51,761
a Western-style of democracy in
the Middle East...
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00:14:51,763 --> 00:14:54,130
it's going to magically
proliferate...
271
00:14:54,132 --> 00:14:55,799
and wind up protecting Israel.
272
00:14:55,801 --> 00:14:58,168
You got to give them credit
for creative thinking.
273
00:14:58,170 --> 00:15:00,636
It's Ivory Tower crap.
274
00:15:00,638 --> 00:15:03,540
I mean, in what world do they
think that Osama bin Laden...
275
00:15:03,542 --> 00:15:06,175
and Saddam Hussein hatched
this thing up together?
276
00:15:06,177 --> 00:15:08,211
Let's find out if these
dickweeds...
277
00:15:08,213 --> 00:15:11,213
are serious about Iraq, okay?
278
00:15:11,215 --> 00:15:13,016
Look, I'm not saying there's
a link to Iraq...
279
00:15:13,018 --> 00:15:14,583
and neither is my boss.
280
00:15:14,585 --> 00:15:15,852
This is just something
we're hearing.
281
00:15:15,854 --> 00:15:17,152
From whom?
282
00:15:17,154 --> 00:15:19,521
Who told me or where is it
coming from?
283
00:15:19,523 --> 00:15:20,957
Take your pick.
284
00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:22,492
Someone at the Pentagon.
285
00:15:22,494 --> 00:15:24,493
In the Vice President's office?
286
00:15:24,495 --> 00:15:25,828
It's just theories.
287
00:15:25,830 --> 00:15:27,830
Are there any Senators talking
to anyone...
288
00:15:27,832 --> 00:15:30,032
saying anything different?
289
00:15:30,034 --> 00:15:31,668
I know Powell's objected...
290
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:35,137
to going into anywhere other
than Afghanistan.
291
00:16:06,738 --> 00:16:07,804
Go away.
292
00:16:07,806 --> 00:16:09,137
One question and I'm gone.
293
00:16:09,139 --> 00:16:10,873
I'm not talking to you
on the record.
294
00:16:10,875 --> 00:16:14,446
Anonymous source, intelligence
community.
295
00:16:15,614 --> 00:16:17,112
You can't use my name.
296
00:16:17,114 --> 00:16:19,549
Never have, never will.
297
00:16:19,551 --> 00:16:20,516
Or my agency.
298
00:16:20,518 --> 00:16:22,455
Pinky swear.
299
00:16:24,556 --> 00:16:27,290
One question.
300
00:16:27,292 --> 00:16:30,196
Are you looking into an Iraqi
connection?
301
00:16:32,196 --> 00:16:34,930
Who's the you in that question?
302
00:16:34,932 --> 00:16:36,698
Are we in the United States?
303
00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:38,233
There are some people.
304
00:16:38,235 --> 00:16:39,868
Are we in my agency?
305
00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:41,771
Not that I'm aware of.
306
00:16:41,773 --> 00:16:44,274
Am I, personally?
307
00:16:44,276 --> 00:16:46,742
No way.
308
00:16:46,744 --> 00:16:48,777
Okay, the second part
to the question.
309
00:16:48,779 --> 00:16:49,913
No.
310
00:16:49,915 --> 00:16:51,584
Thank you.
311
00:16:53,884 --> 00:16:56,151
So, no one you work with at the
Library of Congress has ever...
312
00:16:56,153 --> 00:16:58,221
found a link between Saddam
Hussein and Al Qaeda?
313
00:16:58,223 --> 00:17:00,924
No one I work with
would expect to find a link.
314
00:17:00,926 --> 00:17:02,724
So, as far as you know...
315
00:17:02,726 --> 00:17:04,193
there's nothing substantial to
tie Iraq to bin Laden?
316
00:17:04,195 --> 00:17:05,861
There's nothing even
circumstantial.
317
00:17:05,863 --> 00:17:07,896
To lump together a secular
leader like Saddam...
318
00:17:07,898 --> 00:17:10,899
with an Islamic extremist
like bin Laden is simply...
319
00:17:10,901 --> 00:17:13,037
to have no understanding
of the Muslim world.
320
00:17:17,341 --> 00:17:19,274
It's a bit timid.
321
00:17:19,276 --> 00:17:21,344
No one's actually come out and
said anything publicly yet.
322
00:17:21,346 --> 00:17:23,346
Maybe it's just backroom
speculation.
323
00:17:23,348 --> 00:17:24,880
Pretty dangerous speculation.
324
00:17:24,882 --> 00:17:26,883
Can't we hit it harder than
this?
325
00:17:26,885 --> 00:17:28,818
The attacks were just 10 days
ago.
326
00:17:28,820 --> 00:17:29,953
Everyone's trying to play
catch-up.
327
00:17:29,955 --> 00:17:31,887
Got to press our reliables.
328
00:17:31,889 --> 00:17:33,889
I'll reach out to The Italian
Lady.
329
00:17:33,891 --> 00:17:35,892
You think you can get Loose
Nukes to go on the record?
330
00:17:35,894 --> 00:17:38,161
I'm lucky to get her on deep
background.
331
00:17:38,163 --> 00:17:41,897
Well, double down on the Charm
Offensive.
332
00:17:41,899 --> 00:17:44,666
Buongiorno, this is Warren
Strobel.
333
00:17:44,668 --> 00:17:47,936
I was looking to get your advice
on a critical scheduling matter.
334
00:17:47,938 --> 00:17:51,007
If you could contact me at your
earliest possible convenience...
335
00:17:51,009 --> 00:17:53,976
I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
336
00:17:53,978 --> 00:17:55,110
Hello.
337
00:17:55,112 --> 00:17:56,913
Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
338
00:17:56,915 --> 00:17:58,380
I don't have
anything for you.
339
00:17:58,382 --> 00:18:01,818
No, I know, I know, but I'm
doing a story...
340
00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:04,186
on the administration's seeming
interest in Iraq.
341
00:18:04,188 --> 00:18:06,188
Jonathan, we're
not going to talk about this.
342
00:18:06,190 --> 00:18:09,091
No, I know, I know I'm not
talking about this...
343
00:18:09,093 --> 00:18:12,395
because it's off the record, but
can you give me some indication?
344
00:18:12,397 --> 00:18:13,765
Bye, Jonathan.
345
00:18:15,766 --> 00:18:17,099
What'd she say?
346
00:18:17,101 --> 00:18:19,636
She sends her love.
347
00:18:19,638 --> 00:18:21,037
Across the nation...
348
00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:22,972
flags have been flying off
the shelves.
349
00:18:22,974 --> 00:18:26,876
A wave of patriotism has been
spreading across America.
350
00:18:26,878 --> 00:18:30,680
At times like this,
it's what we do in America.
351
00:18:30,682 --> 00:18:34,082
We the People pull together.
352
00:18:34,084 --> 00:18:36,085
They had a discussion in school
today...
353
00:18:36,087 --> 00:18:38,820
about why America is so great,
right?
354
00:18:38,822 --> 00:18:40,289
Yeah, and what'd you say?
355
00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:41,890
It's a free country.
356
00:18:41,892 --> 00:18:43,326
That's a great answer.
357
00:18:43,328 --> 00:18:44,926
That's Mama's boy.
358
00:18:44,928 --> 00:18:46,695
May I be done now?
359
00:18:46,697 --> 00:18:48,697
Not until I get a big hug.
360
00:18:48,699 --> 00:18:51,800
Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
361
00:18:51,802 --> 00:18:53,371
Oh, whoa!
362
00:18:56,073 --> 00:18:57,706
Proud of you, munchie.
363
00:18:57,708 --> 00:18:59,611
Love you.
364
00:19:01,846 --> 00:19:05,447
They're really pushing this
nationalism thing at school.
365
00:19:05,449 --> 00:19:07,215
What do you expect?
366
00:19:07,217 --> 00:19:09,018
Of course, there's
going to be patriotism now.
367
00:19:09,020 --> 00:19:12,821
Oh, you want to call it
patriotism?
368
00:19:12,823 --> 00:19:14,322
Fine.
369
00:19:14,324 --> 00:19:16,091
It smells a lot like
nationalism to me.
370
00:19:16,093 --> 00:19:21,063
That's how it started in
Yugoslavia before the war.
371
00:19:21,065 --> 00:19:23,034
Tore my country apart.
372
00:19:46,357 --> 00:19:49,291
You want some help?
373
00:19:49,293 --> 00:19:51,929
No, I'm okay, thank you.
374
00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:56,031
Okay, have a good night.
375
00:19:56,033 --> 00:19:57,035
Good night.
376
00:20:04,943 --> 00:20:07,309
How real is the Iraqi
conversation?
377
00:20:07,311 --> 00:20:09,311
There's an argument
taking place.
378
00:20:09,313 --> 00:20:12,248
Yeah? Who's winning it?
379
00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:14,015
I couldn't say.
380
00:20:14,017 --> 00:20:18,253
Look, my boss is gonna send me
to Afghanistan, and all I want..
381
00:20:18,255 --> 00:20:21,790
To know is should he be buying
a roundtrip ticket...
382
00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:25,997
or is Afghanistan just a
layover on the way to Baghdad?
383
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,868
I can't tell you anything.
384
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:34,904
I believe major acts
of terrorism...
385
00:20:34,906 --> 00:20:38,007
against the U.S. are
state-sponsored.
386
00:20:38,009 --> 00:20:41,210
So, we asked ourselves,
"Who could have been behind..."
387
00:20:41,212 --> 00:20:44,146
the most massive terrorist
assault in human history...
388
00:20:44,148 --> 00:20:46,048
"which state?"
389
00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:51,253
I think Iraq is the state that
most immediately comes to mind.
390
00:20:51,255 --> 00:20:54,056
This is an idea which in...
391
00:20:54,058 --> 00:20:56,125
is gaining increased
credibility.
392
00:20:56,127 --> 00:20:58,027
Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
393
00:20:58,029 --> 00:20:59,494
Jim Woolsey
is going to Europe...
394
00:20:59,496 --> 00:21:01,230
to try to find a link
between Saddam...
395
00:21:01,232 --> 00:21:04,002
and the 1993 World Trade Center
bombing.
396
00:21:05,169 --> 00:21:07,036
Is he freelancing?
397
00:21:07,038 --> 00:21:09,172
He was sent
on an official government jet.
398
00:21:09,174 --> 00:21:11,406
Jesus, who sent him?
399
00:21:11,408 --> 00:21:14,109
The deputy defense secretary.
400
00:21:14,111 --> 00:21:16,311
Can you meet for coffee?
401
00:21:16,313 --> 00:21:17,850
I'll be in touch.
402
00:21:19,283 --> 00:21:21,283
Hi, this is Warren
Strobel with Knight Ridder.
403
00:21:21,285 --> 00:21:23,019
I'm working on a story...
404
00:21:23,021 --> 00:21:24,587
about former CIA director James
Woolsey traveling to Europe.
405
00:21:24,589 --> 00:21:26,588
Do you know anything about that?
406
00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:29,591
I didn't have
anything to do with that.
407
00:21:29,593 --> 00:21:31,594
But you're aware that such
a trip has taken place?
408
00:21:31,596 --> 00:21:35,130
I can't be your only
source on this.
409
00:21:35,132 --> 00:21:37,301
All right, stay in touch.
410
00:21:39,102 --> 00:21:41,870
Hey, John.
411
00:21:41,872 --> 00:21:44,005
Woolsey was sent to Europe
to look for evidence...
412
00:21:44,007 --> 00:21:46,943
linking Saddam to the World
Trade Center bombing in '93.
413
00:21:46,945 --> 00:21:50,111
Wouldn't be a fool's errand if
they didn't send a fool.
414
00:21:50,113 --> 00:21:51,947
This came from The Italian Lady?
415
00:21:51,949 --> 00:21:53,148
And a diplomat who can
confirm...
416
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:54,482
the trip was arranged by
Wolfowitz.
417
00:21:54,484 --> 00:21:56,152
What the hell is going on
over at Defense?
418
00:21:56,154 --> 00:21:58,186
Question is, are they trying to
figure out...
419
00:21:58,188 --> 00:21:59,955
if there's any truth to their
theory...
420
00:21:59,957 --> 00:22:02,591
or are they already convinced
their theory is true?
421
00:22:02,593 --> 00:22:04,327
You're sure about
this Woolsey trip?
422
00:22:04,329 --> 00:22:06,328
- Positive.
- You have a third source?
423
00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:07,430
- Yeah.
- Who?
424
00:22:07,432 --> 00:22:09,234
Jim Woolsey.
425
00:22:21,512 --> 00:22:25,317
Hey, it's Walcott,
you up for a field trip?
426
00:22:28,186 --> 00:22:30,152
I figured you'd be calling...
427
00:22:30,154 --> 00:22:31,957
I just didn't think
it would be this soon.
428
00:22:35,059 --> 00:22:37,158
How real is the chatter
about Iraq?
429
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,028
Very.
430
00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:42,932
And it's diverting our attention
from the people who attacked us.
431
00:22:42,934 --> 00:22:45,571
How soon before Iraq becomes
the focus?
432
00:22:47,304 --> 00:22:50,039
We need to blow something up.
433
00:22:50,041 --> 00:22:52,074
Not enough targets in
Afghanistan.
434
00:22:52,076 --> 00:22:53,209
What about bin Laden?
435
00:22:53,211 --> 00:22:54,676
You take out bin Laden...
436
00:22:54,678 --> 00:22:57,114
interest in the war goes right
down the shitter.
437
00:22:59,050 --> 00:23:02,251
A joint offensive in
its sixth day in Tora Bora...
438
00:23:02,253 --> 00:23:04,220
bin Laden's suspected
hideout...
439
00:23:04,222 --> 00:23:06,989
but still no signs of the
world's most wanted man.
440
00:23:06,991 --> 00:23:10,559
U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda
positions from the air...
441
00:23:10,561 --> 00:23:12,294
while anti-Taliban tanks...
442
00:23:12,296 --> 00:23:14,096
and troops meet strong
resistance...
443
00:23:14,098 --> 00:23:16,531
cave to cave,
from Al Qaeda fighters.
444
00:23:16,533 --> 00:23:18,401
With yet more conflicting
reports...
445
00:23:18,403 --> 00:23:20,405
on bin Laden's whereabouts.
446
00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:24,072
What you got there...
447
00:23:24,074 --> 00:23:26,075
is that your State of the
Union piece for tomorrow?
448
00:23:26,077 --> 00:23:28,109
- Yup.
- You got a lunch today?
449
00:23:28,111 --> 00:23:30,279
Not with you.
450
00:23:30,281 --> 00:23:32,380
I got a one-on-one with Looney
Tunes over at State.
451
00:23:32,382 --> 00:23:33,982
There's a dry hole.
452
00:23:33,984 --> 00:23:35,684
Yeah, well, I figured if I just
let him ramble on...
453
00:23:35,686 --> 00:23:37,720
he'll accidentally stumble
into something newsworthy.
454
00:23:37,722 --> 00:23:39,155
Yeah, well, give my best.
455
00:23:39,157 --> 00:23:41,190
I will. Hot off the presses,
Beryl.
456
00:23:41,192 --> 00:23:42,625
Did you use punctuation
this time?
457
00:23:42,627 --> 00:23:44,559
I even threw in a few semicolons
just for you.
458
00:23:44,561 --> 00:23:48,164
I bet you're the pride of the
University of Missouri.
459
00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:52,201
Terrorists who once occupied
Afghanistan...
460
00:23:52,203 --> 00:23:55,072
now occupy cells
at Guantanamo Bay.
461
00:23:58,309 --> 00:24:01,376
And terrorist leaders who urged
followers to sacrifice...
462
00:24:01,378 --> 00:24:04,680
their lives are running'
for their own.
463
00:24:04,682 --> 00:24:09,251
Now, the administration's top
priority apart from our own...
464
00:24:09,253 --> 00:24:13,188
security is to ensure
freedom for other countries...
465
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:17,460
looking to embrace democracy
as a way of life.
466
00:24:17,462 --> 00:24:20,261
Now, we... excuse me... we
understand that we can't...
467
00:24:20,263 --> 00:24:22,263
be the policemen to the world...
468
00:24:22,265 --> 00:24:24,666
but we feel we
have a responsibility to...
469
00:24:24,668 --> 00:24:26,068
Yeah, John Walcott.
470
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:27,502
John!
471
00:24:27,504 --> 00:24:28,636
Dixie?
472
00:24:28,638 --> 00:24:30,106
John, can you hear me?
473
00:24:30,108 --> 00:24:31,639
Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
474
00:24:31,641 --> 00:24:34,010
I got a call from one of
our boys downrange today...
475
00:24:34,012 --> 00:24:35,578
asking me what the fuck's
going on.
476
00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:37,379
Are you still in Afghanistan?
477
00:24:37,381 --> 00:24:39,014
Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
478
00:24:39,016 --> 00:24:40,515
but nobody knows what the
mission is anymore.
479
00:24:40,517 --> 00:24:42,451
How do you bomb a country back
into the Stone Age...
480
00:24:42,453 --> 00:24:44,619
that's already in the middle
of the goddamn Stone Age?
481
00:24:44,621 --> 00:24:47,757
Our second goal is to prevent
regimes that sponsor terror...
482
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:52,127
from threatening America,
or our friends and allies...
483
00:24:52,129 --> 00:24:54,030
with weapons of mass
destruction.
484
00:24:54,032 --> 00:24:58,067
We believe that Afghanistan
is ripe for freedom.
485
00:24:58,069 --> 00:25:01,470
Now, this is a country that has
been struggling to free...
486
00:25:01,472 --> 00:25:04,673
itself from the repressive grip
of the Taliban for years.
487
00:25:04,675 --> 00:25:08,043
We've got bin Laden on the run
and they're diverting my assets.
488
00:25:08,045 --> 00:25:09,811
We may never get him in our
crosshairs again.
489
00:25:09,813 --> 00:25:13,382
Whoa, whoa, wait, they're
diverting your assets to where?
490
00:25:13,384 --> 00:25:15,684
Some of these regimes have been
pretty quiet since...
491
00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:19,521
September the 11th, but we know
their true nature.
492
00:25:19,523 --> 00:25:23,358
You know, it's a country in
desperate need of the kind...
493
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,361
of stability that comes with the
rule of law.
494
00:25:26,363 --> 00:25:30,366
North Korea, Iran, Iraq...
states like these...
495
00:25:30,368 --> 00:25:35,271
and their terrorist allies
constitute an axis of evil...
496
00:25:35,273 --> 00:25:37,338
arming to threaten the
peace of the world.
497
00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:39,075
You'll have to excuse me...
498
00:25:39,077 --> 00:25:41,644
Warren, but I have to prepare
a briefing for Secretary Powell.
499
00:25:41,646 --> 00:25:42,645
Sure.
500
00:25:42,647 --> 00:25:43,812
Anything else you need from me?
501
00:25:43,814 --> 00:25:45,580
No, no, thank you.
502
00:25:45,582 --> 00:25:47,383
I think you've given me
more than enough to chew on.
503
00:25:47,385 --> 00:25:48,716
Excellent.
504
00:25:48,718 --> 00:25:50,351
And you feel confident that
Afghanistan...
505
00:25:50,353 --> 00:25:51,686
will accept a Western-style
democracy?
506
00:25:51,688 --> 00:25:53,188
Oh, absolutely.
507
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:55,691
Just as confident as
we are about Iraq.
508
00:25:55,693 --> 00:25:59,462
Sounds like the debate on Iraq
is getting serious.
509
00:25:59,464 --> 00:26:02,263
Oh, no, no, no, that debate
is over.
510
00:26:02,265 --> 00:26:05,600
Saddam's got to go,
the only question is how.
511
00:26:05,602 --> 00:26:06,769
Good talking to you, Warren.
512
00:26:06,771 --> 00:26:08,673
Yeah, you, too, sir.
513
00:26:10,841 --> 00:26:12,607
The president
is going to invade Iraq.
514
00:26:12,609 --> 00:26:14,342
You got this from Looney Tunes?
515
00:26:14,344 --> 00:26:16,444
Yeah, and confirmed by a
diplomat who says he met...
516
00:26:16,446 --> 00:26:19,548
with Bush, and a foreign leader
recently who came away with...
517
00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:22,885
"The feeling that a decision has
been made to strike Iraq."
518
00:26:22,887 --> 00:26:25,186
Do you think we can get enough
to run the story?
519
00:26:25,188 --> 00:26:27,324
Unfortunately, I do.
520
00:26:40,204 --> 00:26:41,803
So much for the ceasefire.
521
00:26:41,805 --> 00:26:43,606
Yeah, well, really nice of us...
522
00:26:43,608 --> 00:26:46,244
to temporarily stop shooting
at them, though.
523
00:26:57,655 --> 00:27:00,422
♪ I've been bound up
and wound up ♪
524
00:27:00,424 --> 00:27:02,590
♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪
525
00:27:02,592 --> 00:27:04,393
♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪
526
00:27:04,395 --> 00:27:07,163
♪ Don't even want to
think of it ♪
527
00:27:07,165 --> 00:27:09,165
What are you up to, Smucker?
528
00:27:09,167 --> 00:27:12,401
You know, I tried to chat
with your translator today.
529
00:27:12,403 --> 00:27:13,935
Yeah, how'd that go?
530
00:27:13,937 --> 00:27:16,672
Well, for a guy who gets paid
to talk for a living...
531
00:27:16,674 --> 00:27:19,375
he was unusually quiet.
532
00:27:19,377 --> 00:27:21,710
He only talks to me.
533
00:27:21,712 --> 00:27:25,813
Really? And what'd he tell you?
534
00:27:25,815 --> 00:27:28,783
Dollar, I'll let you read
all about it.
535
00:27:28,785 --> 00:27:32,855
Let me see it.
536
00:27:32,857 --> 00:27:36,959
Bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
537
00:27:36,961 --> 00:27:40,495
They missed him, didn't they?
538
00:27:40,497 --> 00:27:44,768
He was here and they fucking
missed him!
539
00:27:46,803 --> 00:27:48,636
A senior U.S.
military official...
540
00:27:48,638 --> 00:27:50,873
tells NBC News "Despite the
crushing defeat..."
541
00:27:50,875 --> 00:27:52,808
"of Al Qaeda forces
at Tora Bora..."
542
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:55,810
"it's believed now that Osama
bin Laden has slipped..."
543
00:27:55,812 --> 00:27:58,347
"across the border into
Pakistan, seeking refuge..."
544
00:27:58,349 --> 00:27:59,915
"in a lawless no man's land..."
545
00:27:59,917 --> 00:28:02,751
"ruled by renegade tribal
warlords."
546
00:28:02,753 --> 00:28:04,653
Oh, it's official...
547
00:28:04,655 --> 00:28:07,489
this is the saddest event
I've ever attended.
548
00:28:07,491 --> 00:28:09,457
I'm going back to my apartment,
drink a bottle of wine...
549
00:28:09,459 --> 00:28:10,725
and put my head in the oven.
550
00:28:10,727 --> 00:28:12,528
Okay, but before you do that...
551
00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:15,496
I really want you to meet the
guy I was telling you about.
552
00:28:15,498 --> 00:28:17,465
Oh! He just walked in!
553
00:28:17,467 --> 00:28:19,467
Forget the wine, I'll kill
myself now.
554
00:28:19,469 --> 00:28:23,771
No, not him... him.
I'll introduce you.
555
00:28:23,773 --> 00:28:24,906
Pam, please don't.
556
00:28:24,908 --> 00:28:27,809
- Warren! Hey!
- Oh, hi.
557
00:28:27,811 --> 00:28:29,611
Glad you could make it,
come on over.
558
00:28:29,613 --> 00:28:32,982
Warren, this is a
good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
559
00:28:32,984 --> 00:28:34,849
Lisa, this is Warren Strobel,
he's a journalist...
560
00:28:34,851 --> 00:28:36,521
and I'm gonna get another drink.
561
00:28:38,755 --> 00:28:40,422
Hi, uh, Lisa?
562
00:28:40,424 --> 00:28:41,857
- Yeah.
- Yeah, nice to meet you.
563
00:28:41,859 --> 00:28:43,528
- Hi.
- Uh...
564
00:28:44,861 --> 00:28:47,863
Did you ever make it
into your apartment?
565
00:28:47,865 --> 00:28:52,367
Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
no, no, no, I'm sorry.
566
00:28:52,369 --> 00:28:55,806
- Yeah, I made it in okay.
- Good. Good.
567
00:28:57,541 --> 00:28:59,674
So, you're a journalist?
568
00:28:59,676 --> 00:29:02,543
Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
569
00:29:02,545 --> 00:29:05,347
Oh, is that a magazine
or a newspaper?
570
00:29:05,349 --> 00:29:10,452
It's actually a consortium
of 31 newspapers, actually.
571
00:29:10,454 --> 00:29:11,986
Well, my stories go out to all
of our newspapers...
572
00:29:11,988 --> 00:29:15,491
and each one has the option
to publish or not.
573
00:29:15,493 --> 00:29:18,527
Oh, okay. I've always wondered
how that worked.
574
00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:19,830
Yeah.
575
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,069
Hey, I got married when
I was 22.
576
00:29:27,071 --> 00:29:30,739
And we're only recently
separated, so...
577
00:29:30,741 --> 00:29:33,341
This is a little awkward for me.
578
00:29:33,343 --> 00:29:34,710
It's okay.
579
00:29:34,712 --> 00:29:36,645
I'm a little out of practice.
580
00:29:36,647 --> 00:29:40,482
Why don't you start
by asking me a question?
581
00:29:40,484 --> 00:29:43,254
Sure, yeah.
582
00:29:45,055 --> 00:29:47,324
Are you a Republican
or a Democrat?
583
00:29:48,826 --> 00:29:50,658
Try again.
584
00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:53,695
Yeah, of course, she wants you
to call her.
585
00:29:53,697 --> 00:29:55,431
She gave you her card.
586
00:29:55,433 --> 00:29:57,566
No, maybe she's just trying
to gin up business.
587
00:29:57,568 --> 00:30:00,069
At a singles mixer
on Valentine's Day?
588
00:30:00,071 --> 00:30:02,338
What? So, call her? I should
call her?
589
00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:04,373
What? No, no, no,
actually, let her dangle.
590
00:30:04,375 --> 00:30:06,341
There's nothing a woman in her
30s likes more...
591
00:30:06,343 --> 00:30:08,577
than a guy who takes his time.
592
00:30:08,579 --> 00:30:10,412
I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
593
00:30:10,414 --> 00:30:12,880
It's just that I'm getting a
little tired...
594
00:30:12,882 --> 00:30:14,817
of picking up your paper
every morning...
595
00:30:14,819 --> 00:30:16,784
and seeing that you're not
running our stories.
596
00:30:16,786 --> 00:30:18,619
I mean, last time I looked...
597
00:30:18,621 --> 00:30:22,457
The Philadelphia Inquirer was
a Knight Ridder paper, right?
598
00:30:22,459 --> 00:30:26,361
The point is, there's no point
in being a Knight Ridder paper..
599
00:30:26,363 --> 00:30:28,097
If you're not going to run
Knight Ridder stories.
600
00:30:28,099 --> 00:30:30,132
John, we've been through
this already.
601
00:30:30,134 --> 00:30:31,834
Your stories don't fit...
602
00:30:31,836 --> 00:30:34,669
in with what we're doing
over here right now.
603
00:30:34,671 --> 00:30:36,771
Don't fit? Don't fit with what?
The truth?
604
00:30:36,773 --> 00:30:38,674
What's the matter, Arthur...
605
00:30:38,676 --> 00:30:40,408
the truth doesn't sell
papers anymore?
606
00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:41,876
And today, for the
first time...
607
00:30:41,878 --> 00:30:43,678
the administration provided...
608
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,781
details for what it has always
insisted was a connection...
609
00:30:46,783 --> 00:30:49,550
between Saddam Hussein
and Al Qaeda.
610
00:30:49,552 --> 00:30:51,119
How strong is that case?
611
00:30:51,121 --> 00:30:53,422
Iraqi president
Saddam Hussein says...
612
00:30:53,424 --> 00:30:56,392
he does not have any illegal
weapons of mass destruction...
613
00:30:56,394 --> 00:30:59,595
and accused the United States
of using weapons...
614
00:30:59,597 --> 00:31:02,130
as a pretext to start a war.
615
00:31:02,132 --> 00:31:06,434
Mr. Galloway, how closely did
the movie conform to your book?
616
00:31:06,436 --> 00:31:09,838
The movie was about 80% accurate
and 20% bullshit...
617
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,811
which I guess by Hollywood
standards is an accomplishment.
618
00:31:15,413 --> 00:31:18,079
What inspired you to write
the book?
619
00:31:18,081 --> 00:31:20,482
Being shot at by the North
Vietnamese army.
620
00:31:20,484 --> 00:31:22,684
What was the biggest difference
between experiencing...
621
00:31:22,686 --> 00:31:26,989
the Battle of Ia Drang in person
versus watching it in a theater?
622
00:31:26,991 --> 00:31:28,893
The popcorn in Ia Drang was
saltier.
623
00:31:30,461 --> 00:31:31,827
Last question.
624
00:31:31,829 --> 00:31:33,928
Can you draw any comparisons
between Vietnam...
625
00:31:33,930 --> 00:31:36,531
and what's happening today
in Afghanistan?
626
00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:39,667
It's very different, but I think
it is appropriate...
627
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:43,672
that before we start dropping
bombs, we think long and hard...
628
00:31:43,674 --> 00:31:46,442
about the greatest lesson
we got from Vietnam.
629
00:31:46,444 --> 00:31:48,076
Which is?
630
00:31:48,078 --> 00:31:52,647
When the government fucks up,
the soldiers pay the price.
631
00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:55,716
To what do I owe this
unexpected visit?
632
00:31:55,718 --> 00:31:58,052
Well, I was hoping I'd get
an autograph...
633
00:31:58,054 --> 00:32:00,655
from the world's most famous
war correspondent.
634
00:32:00,657 --> 00:32:04,659
I hate this part. Reporters are
not supposed to be the story.
635
00:32:04,661 --> 00:32:07,863
Reporters are not supposed to be
awarded the Bronze Star, either.
636
00:32:07,865 --> 00:32:10,232
How do you like the job
at State?
637
00:32:10,234 --> 00:32:11,867
I love working for General
Powell...
638
00:32:11,869 --> 00:32:13,534
and I hate working
for Uncle Sam.
639
00:32:13,536 --> 00:32:15,037
You miss reporting?
640
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,871
After 42 years, I thought...
641
00:32:16,873 --> 00:32:18,674
I should take some time
away from it.
642
00:32:18,676 --> 00:32:22,144
So, I went to work at the State
Department on September 10th...
643
00:32:22,146 --> 00:32:24,512
and the next day the biggest
story of my life broke.
644
00:32:24,514 --> 00:32:27,182
I'd say there's a little bit
of a tug.
645
00:32:27,184 --> 00:32:30,918
We're working on something
important, that's why I'm here.
646
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,988
To make me envious?
647
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:35,824
To make you an offer.
648
00:32:35,826 --> 00:32:39,126
If he gets weapons
of mass destruction, Jerry.
649
00:32:39,128 --> 00:32:41,195
What does that mean
for the world?
650
00:32:41,197 --> 00:32:42,931
What does that mean
for the Middle East?
651
00:32:42,933 --> 00:32:44,899
- Can you turn it down?
- I'm trying to watch the news.
652
00:32:44,901 --> 00:32:47,168
Stop calling it that.
653
00:32:47,170 --> 00:32:48,672
Hey, son.
654
00:32:53,711 --> 00:32:56,244
Adam, what's the matter?
655
00:32:56,246 --> 00:32:58,816
I met with a recruiter.
656
00:33:03,521 --> 00:33:05,790
A lot of people
are gonna die, Jerry.
657
00:33:09,792 --> 00:33:11,527
You know once you sign up...
658
00:33:11,529 --> 00:33:13,127
there's no changing your mind,
right?
659
00:33:13,129 --> 00:33:14,629
I know.
660
00:33:14,631 --> 00:33:16,264
What do you know?
You're just a kid.
661
00:33:16,266 --> 00:33:18,767
Whose country was attacked.
662
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:21,036
Adam, I know you want to do what
you think is right...
663
00:33:21,038 --> 00:33:23,605
but war is not a video game.
664
00:33:23,607 --> 00:33:25,741
You have no idea what
you're getting into.
665
00:33:25,743 --> 00:33:28,111
I know exactly what
I'm getting into.
666
00:33:32,315 --> 00:33:34,549
Here.
667
00:33:34,551 --> 00:33:39,120
Show me where Afghanistan
is on this map.
668
00:33:39,122 --> 00:33:41,822
Show me.
669
00:33:41,824 --> 00:33:43,658
They're gonna send you halfway
around the world to fight...
670
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:46,194
people you didn't even know
existed a year ago.
671
00:33:46,196 --> 00:33:48,896
If you know what you're
getting into...
672
00:33:48,898 --> 00:33:52,934
show me where Afghanistan
is on this map.
673
00:33:52,936 --> 00:33:56,003
Did anyone ever shove a map
in Dad's face...
674
00:33:56,005 --> 00:33:58,709
and ask him to find Vietnam?
675
00:34:05,014 --> 00:34:08,750
We now know that
Saddam has resumed...
676
00:34:08,752 --> 00:34:11,286
his efforts to acquire
nuclear weapons.
677
00:34:11,288 --> 00:34:14,088
Among other sources, we've
gotten this from firsthand...
678
00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:15,857
testimony from defectors.
679
00:34:15,859 --> 00:34:18,659
Many of us are convinced
that Saddam Hussein...
680
00:34:18,661 --> 00:34:21,362
will acquire nuclear weapons
fairly soon.
681
00:34:21,364 --> 00:34:25,199
Simply stated, there is no
doubt that Saddam Hussein...
682
00:34:25,201 --> 00:34:27,101
now has weapons of mass
destruction.
683
00:34:27,103 --> 00:34:30,005
They're dialing up
the rhetoric on Iraq.
684
00:34:30,007 --> 00:34:32,110
Let's see if we can nail
them down, okay?
685
00:34:34,177 --> 00:34:36,945
Twenty bucks, whoever gets
the best quote.
686
00:34:36,947 --> 00:34:39,880
No, no, no, you're such a child.
687
00:34:39,882 --> 00:34:41,016
You're such a pussy.
688
00:34:41,018 --> 00:34:42,617
I'm not taking your money.
689
00:34:42,619 --> 00:34:44,119
You get all bent out of shape
when you lose.
690
00:34:44,121 --> 00:34:45,887
I don't care. I'm just the same
when I win or lose.
691
00:34:45,889 --> 00:34:47,655
I'm not... it's not a bet,
all right, fine.
692
00:34:47,657 --> 00:34:49,257
Warren Strobel for Senator
Biden, please.
693
00:34:49,259 --> 00:34:51,092
Son of a bitch.
694
00:34:51,094 --> 00:34:53,762
Biden told Bush, "There's a
reason your father didn't go..."
695
00:34:53,764 --> 00:34:54,929
"to Baghdad. He knew he would
have to stay..."
696
00:34:54,931 --> 00:34:56,398
"for at least five years."
697
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,067
I got Michael O'Hanlon
at Brookings saying...
698
00:34:59,069 --> 00:35:01,706
"You definitely cannot
count on it being a cakewalk."
699
00:35:03,072 --> 00:35:05,072
We gotta hit it harder
than that.
700
00:35:05,074 --> 00:35:07,308
All right, well, hang on. I got
an official at the U.N...
701
00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:09,011
that says, "There's widespread
concern..."
702
00:35:09,013 --> 00:35:11,179
"that this will destabilize
the whole Middle East."
703
00:35:11,181 --> 00:35:13,748
Let me see what you have.
704
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:15,016
Well, wait, I got... I got...
705
00:35:15,018 --> 00:35:16,985
Just give it to me,
give, give, give.
706
00:35:16,987 --> 00:35:18,152
Okay.
707
00:35:18,154 --> 00:35:20,188
All right.
708
00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:23,860
Let's see here... all right.
709
00:36:10,273 --> 00:36:12,340
You guys are smart.
710
00:36:12,342 --> 00:36:14,909
You know what's unfolding here.
711
00:36:14,911 --> 00:36:18,915
Our readers need to know what
we've learned.
712
00:36:22,485 --> 00:36:26,121
"In the best case scenario, U.S.
troops could be stuck in Iraq..."
713
00:36:26,123 --> 00:36:29,291
"for years trying to teach the
inner workings of democracy..."
714
00:36:29,293 --> 00:36:33,161
"to a nation that has never
known it. In the worst case..."
715
00:36:33,163 --> 00:36:37,132
"scenario, an invasion could
cause Iraq's fractious ethnic..."
716
00:36:37,134 --> 00:36:39,967
"groups to break off into their
own mini-states..."
717
00:36:39,969 --> 00:36:43,003
"trapping American combat forces
in the middle..."
718
00:36:43,005 --> 00:36:45,676
"of a bloody civil war
for decades."
719
00:36:48,177 --> 00:36:50,145
Boss man's got balls.
720
00:36:50,147 --> 00:36:52,215
Yeah.
721
00:37:17,507 --> 00:37:18,207
Shit.
722
00:37:26,449 --> 00:37:27,782
Were those for me?
723
00:37:27,784 --> 00:37:31,286
No. Yes.
724
00:37:31,288 --> 00:37:35,956
But I thought it might be
a little, I don't know...
725
00:37:35,958 --> 00:37:38,058
a little too soon to be giving
each other gifts.
726
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:39,994
It would've been all right.
727
00:37:39,996 --> 00:37:41,262
Okay.
728
00:37:41,264 --> 00:37:43,898
Well, I think they landed
on my car...
729
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:45,933
so if you want to grab them
on the way to dinner...
730
00:37:45,935 --> 00:37:48,003
maybe we can do that?
731
00:37:48,005 --> 00:37:49,874
- Great.
- Great.
732
00:37:53,009 --> 00:37:56,177
Okay, so what was the most
embarrassing thing...
733
00:37:56,179 --> 00:37:57,748
you did to prepare for tonight?
734
00:38:00,516 --> 00:38:02,483
All right.
735
00:38:02,485 --> 00:38:04,985
I will admit, that to prepare
for tonight...
736
00:38:04,987 --> 00:38:07,121
I did kind of a cram session
on Iraq...
737
00:38:07,123 --> 00:38:10,125
and the history of the Muslim
world.
738
00:38:10,127 --> 00:38:11,259
Really?
739
00:38:11,261 --> 00:38:13,027
Yes.
740
00:38:13,029 --> 00:38:15,529
Now I know that 1400 years ago,
after the death of Muhammad...
741
00:38:15,531 --> 00:38:17,898
Muslims fought over who was to
be his rightful heir...
742
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:19,567
and that caused a split
into two factions...
743
00:38:19,569 --> 00:38:20,969
the Sunnis and the Shiites.
744
00:38:20,971 --> 00:38:22,536
And they've been at war
ever since.
745
00:38:22,538 --> 00:38:24,572
Then, at the end of World War I,
the British and the French...
746
00:38:24,574 --> 00:38:27,541
arbitrarily divided the Arab
world into countries...
747
00:38:27,543 --> 00:38:29,543
putting the Sunni majority
in charge.
748
00:38:29,545 --> 00:38:34,282
But the country that became Iraq
is made up of only 20% Sunni.
749
00:38:34,284 --> 00:38:38,954
So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni,
with an iron fist rules...
750
00:38:38,956 --> 00:38:40,387
the majority Shiite
population...
751
00:38:40,389 --> 00:38:43,958
and the 20% Kurdish population
in northern Iraq.
752
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,927
But if Saddam Hussein were
removed, it could possibly...
753
00:38:46,929 --> 00:38:49,496
reignite that 1400-year-old
sectarian war.
754
00:38:49,498 --> 00:38:51,599
Now, after reading your
stories...
755
00:38:51,601 --> 00:38:55,270
I know that Iran is the top
sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
756
00:38:55,272 --> 00:38:58,907
That a man named Ahmed Chalabi
seems to be a con artist...
757
00:38:58,909 --> 00:39:00,909
who wants to replace
Saddam Hussein.
758
00:39:00,911 --> 00:39:02,610
That the neo-cons in the Bush
Administration...
759
00:39:02,612 --> 00:39:04,246
are pushing for an invasion.
760
00:39:04,248 --> 00:39:07,882
And you are quickly becoming
my favorite writer.
761
00:39:07,884 --> 00:39:09,453
Wow.
762
00:39:13,522 --> 00:39:18,125
Um... I guess it's my turn.
763
00:39:18,127 --> 00:39:19,226
Give it to me.
764
00:39:19,228 --> 00:39:22,297
Okay, I will admit that...
765
00:39:22,299 --> 00:39:25,933
This is a little embarrassing.
766
00:39:25,935 --> 00:39:30,971
I asked my ex-wife to watch
my two sons tonight.
767
00:39:30,973 --> 00:39:32,540
Why is that embarrassing?
768
00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:34,476
Because a babysitter would
expect me home...
769
00:39:34,478 --> 00:39:38,413
at the end of the evening and...
770
00:39:38,415 --> 00:39:41,483
Should we get the check?
771
00:39:41,485 --> 00:39:44,953
Tell your boss we're gonna run
it whether he comments or not!
772
00:39:44,955 --> 00:39:48,056
Actually yes, it is a matter
of life and death!
773
00:39:48,058 --> 00:39:51,692
We're talking about going
to fucking war!
774
00:39:51,694 --> 00:39:54,130
Hello?
775
00:39:55,498 --> 00:39:58,266
I'm guessing that was
a no comment?
776
00:39:58,268 --> 00:40:00,467
What are you grinning
about?
777
00:40:00,469 --> 00:40:02,170
What? I'm not grinning.
778
00:40:02,172 --> 00:40:04,940
- You're grinning.
- I'm not grinning.
779
00:40:04,942 --> 00:40:06,308
- I'm not...
- What have you got over there?
780
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:08,043
Relax! Don't worry about it.
781
00:40:08,045 --> 00:40:09,543
Oh my God, she could
do my taxes.
782
00:40:09,545 --> 00:40:11,445
All right, relax.
783
00:40:11,447 --> 00:40:14,085
- Strobel, Knight Ridder.
- Of course.
784
00:40:17,087 --> 00:40:19,219
Okay.
785
00:40:19,221 --> 00:40:21,523
All right, I'll be right there.
786
00:40:21,525 --> 00:40:23,494
Let's go, this could be
something.
787
00:40:28,397 --> 00:40:30,465
So, how does this work?
788
00:40:30,467 --> 00:40:33,571
Do you ask me questions or do
I just start talking?
789
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:37,204
Why don't you just begin...
790
00:40:37,206 --> 00:40:38,605
and we'll ask the questions
when we have them.
791
00:40:38,607 --> 00:40:41,141
If it's off the record,
I have to say so, right?
792
00:40:41,143 --> 00:40:43,578
Do you want it to be
off the record?
793
00:40:43,580 --> 00:40:47,248
I want people to know what
I know, but not who I am.
794
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:49,016
It'll be background.
795
00:40:49,018 --> 00:40:51,455
You'll be referred to
as a U.S. official.
796
00:40:58,362 --> 00:41:01,132
So, whatever you feel
comfortable telling us.
797
00:41:04,534 --> 00:41:07,735
I believe your prediction about
what could and will happen...
798
00:41:07,737 --> 00:41:10,304
if we go to war is spot on.
799
00:41:10,306 --> 00:41:13,041
And we're a lot closer
than you think.
800
00:41:13,043 --> 00:41:14,608
How close?
801
00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:17,679
A secret war planning group
with a parallel intelligence...
802
00:41:17,681 --> 00:41:20,280
operation has been set up
to bypass...
803
00:41:20,282 --> 00:41:22,550
the rest of the
intelligence community.
804
00:41:22,552 --> 00:41:24,085
How do you know this?
805
00:41:24,087 --> 00:41:26,520
They meet in the building
where I work.
806
00:41:26,522 --> 00:41:28,523
And which building is that?
807
00:41:28,525 --> 00:41:33,261
The one with the five sides.
808
00:41:33,263 --> 00:41:34,362
But you're not a part
of that unit?
809
00:41:34,364 --> 00:41:35,596
No.
810
00:41:35,598 --> 00:41:37,232
So, how do you know about this?
811
00:41:37,234 --> 00:41:39,500
My desk is across the hall.
812
00:41:39,502 --> 00:41:41,802
What office do you work for?
813
00:41:41,804 --> 00:41:46,407
Near East South Asia division,
but you can't disclose that.
814
00:41:46,409 --> 00:41:48,409
You're an analyst?
815
00:41:48,411 --> 00:41:52,447
Yes... but you can't disclose
that, either.
816
00:41:52,449 --> 00:41:54,715
I'm speaking to you because
I'm an American citizen...
817
00:41:54,717 --> 00:41:57,317
and I don't like what these
people are doing.
818
00:41:57,319 --> 00:42:00,688
Half a dozen men, most of whom
have never served...
819
00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:02,824
in the military are making
decisions...
820
00:42:02,826 --> 00:42:06,293
based on shoddy intelligence,
and those decisions...
821
00:42:06,295 --> 00:42:08,762
will impact our men
and women in uniform.
822
00:42:08,764 --> 00:42:16,070
And as someone who has worn that
uniform, I can't remain silent.
823
00:42:16,072 --> 00:42:21,375
You said shoddy intelligence.
What do you mean by that?
824
00:42:21,377 --> 00:42:24,478
They've designed a process
that doesn't conform...
825
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,648
to any basic tenet
of intelligence gathering.
826
00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:29,150
In what way?
827
00:42:29,152 --> 00:42:31,351
A decision is made,
then the intelligence...
828
00:42:31,353 --> 00:42:34,788
is sought to support
that decision.
829
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:36,391
How do you know this?
830
00:42:36,393 --> 00:42:39,393
They have no interest
in Arabic speakers.
831
00:42:39,395 --> 00:42:42,197
Israelis come in without
passes...
832
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,366
without even being entered
into a security log.
833
00:42:45,368 --> 00:42:48,503
And for years the government has
been funding a group...
834
00:42:48,505 --> 00:42:52,873
of exiled dissidents called the
Iraqi National Congress.
835
00:42:52,875 --> 00:42:55,110
Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
836
00:42:55,112 --> 00:42:58,145
Who they want to install
as the new leader of Iraq.
837
00:42:58,147 --> 00:43:00,215
Yeah, we've been trying to get
a meeting with him.
838
00:43:00,217 --> 00:43:02,485
Do you know who set up
this operation?
839
00:43:06,355 --> 00:43:09,290
Donald Rumsfeld.
840
00:43:09,292 --> 00:43:11,358
Is there any evidence to
indicate that Iraq...
841
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,829
has attempted to or is willing
to supply terrorists...
842
00:43:15,831 --> 00:43:18,132
with weapons of mass
destruction?
843
00:43:18,134 --> 00:43:22,603
The reports that say that
something hasn't happened...
844
00:43:22,605 --> 00:43:26,241
are always interesting to me
because as we know...
845
00:43:26,243 --> 00:43:30,478
there are known knowns, there
are things we know we know.
846
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,813
We also know there are known
unknowns.
847
00:43:32,815 --> 00:43:36,351
That is to say, we know there
are some things we do not know.
848
00:43:36,353 --> 00:43:38,887
But there are also unknown
unknowns.
849
00:43:38,889 --> 00:43:40,721
The one's we don't know
we don't know.
850
00:43:40,723 --> 00:43:43,291
We're working on a theory that
the administration...
851
00:43:43,293 --> 00:43:44,791
has already decided to go
to war...
852
00:43:44,793 --> 00:43:46,728
and is now focused on how
to justify it.
853
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:48,596
It's not a theory.
854
00:43:48,598 --> 00:43:51,166
We've also been told by a number
of individuals that...
855
00:43:51,168 --> 00:43:54,235
Rumsfeld's the one spearheading
this intelligence gathering.
856
00:43:54,237 --> 00:43:56,637
I wouldn't exactly
call it intelligence gathering.
857
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,672
It's more like
intelligence cherry picking.
858
00:43:58,674 --> 00:44:00,340
And if they don't find
any cherries...
859
00:44:00,342 --> 00:44:01,909
they just grab a piece
of shit...
860
00:44:01,911 --> 00:44:05,279
and they paint it red, and they
stick it in a Shirley Temple.
861
00:44:05,281 --> 00:44:08,650
You seem irritated.
862
00:44:08,652 --> 00:44:11,319
I'm out there looking for
weapons that might not exist...
863
00:44:11,321 --> 00:44:13,887
to justify a war that might
not be wise.
864
00:44:13,889 --> 00:44:18,425
And have you found any evidence
of WMD?
865
00:44:18,427 --> 00:44:20,295
No, sir.
866
00:44:20,297 --> 00:44:22,429
But Saddam is looking to acquire
nukes, right?
867
00:44:22,431 --> 00:44:25,366
Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck
Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
868
00:44:25,368 --> 00:44:27,634
a sinking feeling that neither
of those things is gonna happen.
869
00:44:27,636 --> 00:44:32,440
So, we won't use your identity,
but can we get a quote?
870
00:44:32,442 --> 00:44:34,208
Sure.
871
00:44:34,210 --> 00:44:36,376
Have you found anything to
support the administration's...
872
00:44:36,378 --> 00:44:39,846
theory that Saddam is close to
or has acquired nuclear weapons?
873
00:44:39,848 --> 00:44:41,416
We've searched every cave...
874
00:44:41,418 --> 00:44:43,851
and looked up every camel's ass
in Iraq.
875
00:44:43,853 --> 00:44:48,692
So, here's your quote,
"no fucking way."
876
00:44:50,594 --> 00:44:52,427
Might have to clean
that up a bit.
877
00:44:52,429 --> 00:44:55,529
Quite colorful, though.
878
00:44:55,531 --> 00:44:56,663
Uh, honey, I think someone...
879
00:44:56,665 --> 00:44:58,366
is stealing our New York Times.
880
00:44:58,368 --> 00:44:59,701
I canceled it.
881
00:44:59,703 --> 00:45:01,569
Why would you do that?
882
00:45:01,571 --> 00:45:02,837
It's propaganda.
883
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:04,639
I need that for my work.
884
00:45:04,641 --> 00:45:07,007
It's packaging press releases
from the White House...
885
00:45:07,009 --> 00:45:09,009
the State Department, and the
Pentagon.
886
00:45:09,011 --> 00:45:10,914
Sorry, that's not a real
newspaper.
887
00:45:17,821 --> 00:45:20,387
How was your day?
888
00:45:20,389 --> 00:45:22,657
Warren and I met with some
gentleman...
889
00:45:22,659 --> 00:45:24,992
from the intelligence community
who confirmed that...
890
00:45:24,994 --> 00:45:27,027
there's no real evidence
to support...
891
00:45:27,029 --> 00:45:30,366
the administration's
claim on WMD.
892
00:45:32,835 --> 00:45:35,603
What have I been telling you?
893
00:45:35,605 --> 00:45:39,877
Well, unfortunately, I can't use
your gut as a reliable source.
894
00:45:44,848 --> 00:45:47,849
You know, this is what they do.
They lie.
895
00:45:47,851 --> 00:45:50,821
Yeah, and we try to hold
them accountable.
896
00:45:54,056 --> 00:45:56,724
I hope I'm wrong. I really,
really do.
897
00:45:56,726 --> 00:45:59,860
But the Bush Administration,
they don't care about the truth.
898
00:45:59,862 --> 00:46:02,596
They don't even respond to your
articles.
899
00:46:02,598 --> 00:46:05,699
If they want a war, they're
gonna get one.
900
00:46:05,701 --> 00:46:08,402
And there's nothing that you
or the first amendment...
901
00:46:08,404 --> 00:46:09,839
is gonna do to stop them.
902
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,622
Extra, extra, read all about it.
903
00:46:31,828 --> 00:46:35,697
"Over the past 14 months, Iraq
has tried to buy thousands..."
904
00:46:35,699 --> 00:46:38,900
"of specially design aluminum
tubes, which American..."
905
00:46:38,902 --> 00:46:40,934
"officials believe were intended
as components..."
906
00:46:40,936 --> 00:46:44,871
"of centrifuges to enrich
uranium."
907
00:46:44,873 --> 00:46:46,641
Well, one thing's for sure.
908
00:46:46,643 --> 00:46:48,076
What's that?
909
00:46:48,078 --> 00:46:50,581
We can't both be right.
910
00:46:54,083 --> 00:46:55,416
Who're you calling?
911
00:46:55,418 --> 00:46:57,351
Loose Nukes.
912
00:46:57,353 --> 00:46:58,920
If she wouldn't talk to you
about going into Iraq...
913
00:46:58,922 --> 00:47:01,521
what makes you think she's gonna
go on the record on WMD?
914
00:47:01,523 --> 00:47:04,527
Charm Offensive. Watch and
learn, son.
915
00:47:08,598 --> 00:47:10,067
Landay.
916
00:47:12,768 --> 00:47:15,869
- It's Joe Galloway.
- Wow.
917
00:47:15,871 --> 00:47:18,005
Man even walks like he has
a Bronze Star.
918
00:47:18,007 --> 00:47:19,373
Hello.
919
00:47:19,375 --> 00:47:21,675
Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
920
00:47:21,677 --> 00:47:22,976
Hello, Jonathan.
921
00:47:22,978 --> 00:47:28,782
Hi. Crazy weather we're having,
huh?
922
00:47:28,784 --> 00:47:30,817
You're calling me to chat
about the weather?
923
00:47:30,819 --> 00:47:35,456
No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted
to ask you about WMD.
924
00:47:35,458 --> 00:47:37,023
It'll be deep, deep background.
925
00:47:37,025 --> 00:47:38,692
Goodbye, Jonathan.
926
00:47:38,694 --> 00:47:41,628
No wait, don't hang up.
927
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:45,599
That Charm Offensive...
that's formidable.
928
00:47:45,601 --> 00:47:49,871
Listen, we need you here.
929
00:47:49,873 --> 00:47:52,572
You've developed sources over
the years that have access...
930
00:47:52,574 --> 00:47:55,610
that Landay and Strobel
just can't get.
931
00:47:55,612 --> 00:47:57,011
I'll make it easy on you.
932
00:47:57,013 --> 00:47:58,813
I'll give you a column...
933
00:47:58,815 --> 00:48:02,849
and your name doesn't have to
appear on anything else.
934
00:48:02,851 --> 00:48:05,686
Whatever else you want to write
on the side, you can...
935
00:48:05,688 --> 00:48:07,954
and of course, there won't be
any glory, but...
936
00:48:07,956 --> 00:48:10,127
Glory's for young men.
937
00:48:12,761 --> 00:48:14,862
Let me percolate on it.
938
00:48:14,864 --> 00:48:16,931
Let me turn to the issue
of Iraq.
939
00:48:16,933 --> 00:48:19,967
You have said that it poses...
940
00:48:19,969 --> 00:48:22,203
a mortal threat to the
United States.
941
00:48:22,205 --> 00:48:25,806
How? Define "mortal threat."
942
00:48:25,808 --> 00:48:30,610
Well, this'll take some time,
but it's important for us...
943
00:48:30,612 --> 00:48:32,512
as I mentioned earlier...
944
00:48:32,514 --> 00:48:35,449
to remember that the world
has changed, that prior to...
945
00:48:35,451 --> 00:48:37,184
I'd forgotten the world
had changed.
946
00:48:37,186 --> 00:48:39,119
So did I. I'm so happy he
mentioned that.
947
00:48:39,121 --> 00:48:42,757
What, specifically, has he
obtained that you believe...
948
00:48:42,759 --> 00:48:45,192
would enhance his nuclear
development program?
949
00:48:45,194 --> 00:48:47,228
Well, in the nuclear weapons
arena...
950
00:48:47,230 --> 00:48:50,030
you've got specifically
aluminum tubes.
951
00:48:50,032 --> 00:48:51,799
There's a story in The New York
Times this morning...
952
00:48:51,801 --> 00:48:54,902
this is and I want to attribute
to The Times.
953
00:48:54,904 --> 00:48:56,837
I don't want to talk about,
obviously...
954
00:48:56,839 --> 00:49:00,007
specific intelligence sources,
but it's now public that...
955
00:49:00,009 --> 00:49:05,045
in fact he has been seeking to
acquire, and we have been...
956
00:49:05,047 --> 00:49:07,849
able to intercept and prevent
him from acquiring...
957
00:49:07,851 --> 00:49:09,550
through this particular
channel...
958
00:49:09,552 --> 00:49:11,686
the kinds of tubes that are
necessary...
959
00:49:11,688 --> 00:49:13,487
to build a centrifuge.
960
00:49:13,489 --> 00:49:16,523
And the centrifuge is required
to take low-grade uranium...
961
00:49:16,525 --> 00:49:19,960
and enhance it into highly
enriched uranium...
962
00:49:19,962 --> 00:49:22,730
which is what you have to have
in order to build a bomb.
963
00:49:22,732 --> 00:49:25,266
Lucky for him, someone leaked
that to The Times.
964
00:49:25,268 --> 00:49:28,569
Avoids the pesky nuisance
of being arrested...
965
00:49:28,571 --> 00:49:30,204
for revealing classified
information.
966
00:49:30,206 --> 00:49:32,239
One can only wonder how Judy
Miller and Michael Gordon...
967
00:49:32,241 --> 00:49:33,273
got that information.
968
00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:36,978
Does it bother you, bug you...
969
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:40,114
that you have not captured
Osama bin Laden in over a year?
970
00:49:40,116 --> 00:49:46,853
I'd like to see him on
television in handcuffs...
971
00:49:46,855 --> 00:49:48,889
if I can put it
into those terms.
972
00:49:48,891 --> 00:49:50,858
I think all of us would.
973
00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:54,628
But I don't lay awake at night
concerned about that.
974
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:56,963
There's one school of thought
that says he's already dead.
975
00:49:56,965 --> 00:49:58,565
We haven't heard anything
of him in many months.
976
00:49:58,567 --> 00:49:59,933
What do you think?
977
00:49:59,935 --> 00:50:01,034
I don't know, I really
don't know.
978
00:50:01,036 --> 00:50:02,969
I can argue it round or flat.
979
00:50:02,971 --> 00:50:05,572
I didn't know we were still
debating the shape of the earth.
980
00:50:05,574 --> 00:50:07,543
I've got sources on both sides.
981
00:50:09,612 --> 00:50:12,045
But the U.S. military would be
enormously effective...
982
00:50:12,047 --> 00:50:13,915
in this circumstance.
983
00:50:13,917 --> 00:50:16,851
And I don't think it would be
that tough a fight.
984
00:50:16,853 --> 00:50:18,786
That is, I don't think there's
any question...
985
00:50:18,788 --> 00:50:20,621
that we would prevail and we
would achieve our objective.
986
00:50:20,623 --> 00:50:23,056
Landay.
987
00:50:23,058 --> 00:50:25,692
Yeah?
988
00:50:25,694 --> 00:50:28,030
We are right, aren't we?
989
00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:32,235
Everybody, listen up.
990
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,208
We're not NBC.
991
00:50:39,676 --> 00:50:41,741
We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
992
00:50:41,743 --> 00:50:44,747
We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
993
00:50:45,882 --> 00:50:47,982
We're not The New York Times.
994
00:50:47,984 --> 00:50:49,953
We're not The Washington Post.
995
00:50:51,853 --> 00:50:53,823
We are Knight Ridder.
996
00:50:57,927 --> 00:51:03,998
We have readers who live in
towns with military bases.
997
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,735
Fort Benning, Fort Bragg,
Fort Jackson...
998
00:51:07,737 --> 00:51:14,074
and over 40 other military bases
throughout this country.
999
00:51:14,076 --> 00:51:18,846
If every other news organization
wants to be stenographers...
1000
00:51:18,848 --> 00:51:21,918
for the Bush administration,
let them.
1001
00:51:24,186 --> 00:51:28,058
We don't write for people who
send other people's kids to war.
1002
00:51:30,125 --> 00:51:34,598
We write for people
whose kids get sent to war.
1003
00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:39,733
So, when the government
says something...
1004
00:51:39,735 --> 00:51:42,239
you only have one question
to ask.
1005
00:51:45,741 --> 00:51:47,677
Is it true?
1006
00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:55,786
I'm through percolating.
1007
00:51:58,888 --> 00:52:00,820
Let's get to work.
1008
00:52:00,822 --> 00:52:03,090
Administration officials spanned
out on the Sunday talk shows...
1009
00:52:03,092 --> 00:52:05,326
to make the case for an invasion
of Iraq.
1010
00:52:05,328 --> 00:52:08,295
Who else is involved in
The Office of Special Planning?
1011
00:52:08,297 --> 00:52:11,998
Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
1012
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,367
Instead of listening to people
who have spent their careers...
1013
00:52:14,369 --> 00:52:18,204
evaluating threats, they're
streaming questionable intel...
1014
00:52:18,206 --> 00:52:20,107
from unreliable sources and
taking it...
1015
00:52:20,109 --> 00:52:21,909
directly to the White House.
1016
00:52:21,911 --> 00:52:24,145
George Tenet, Director
of Central Intelligence...
1017
00:52:24,147 --> 00:52:26,746
told Senators, he could not
rule out cooperation...
1018
00:52:26,748 --> 00:52:28,188
between Osama bin Laden
and Al Qaeda.
1019
00:52:30,786 --> 00:52:32,987
I've seen the specs on those
aluminum tubes.
1020
00:52:32,989 --> 00:52:35,021
They're too small to be used
for enriching uranium.
1021
00:52:35,023 --> 00:52:36,424
What does that mean?
1022
00:52:36,426 --> 00:52:38,192
They can't be used
for a nuclear bomb.
1023
00:52:38,194 --> 00:52:39,994
The President
of the United States...
1024
00:52:39,996 --> 00:52:41,328
said we're not going to permit
nations to develop...
1025
00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:43,297
weapons of mass destruction...
1026
00:52:43,299 --> 00:52:45,099
as they're gonna supply those
weapons to a network...
1027
00:52:45,101 --> 00:52:46,766
of terrorism that could attack
the United States.
1028
00:52:46,768 --> 00:52:49,270
Cheney is trying to shut
out Powell.
1029
00:52:49,272 --> 00:52:50,871
Where'd you get this stuff?
1030
00:52:50,873 --> 00:52:52,739
Old friend.
1031
00:52:52,741 --> 00:52:54,775
We're starting to
see a consensus from within...
1032
00:52:54,777 --> 00:52:56,777
the administration for the
removal of Saddam Hussein.
1033
00:52:56,779 --> 00:52:58,779
The
administration has pointed...
1034
00:52:58,781 --> 00:53:01,081
to a secret meeting in Prague
between Iraqi intelligence...
1035
00:53:01,083 --> 00:53:02,849
and 9/11 hijacker,
Mohamed Atta.
1036
00:53:02,851 --> 00:53:04,819
Bush administration is pressing
the United Nations...
1037
00:53:04,821 --> 00:53:06,954
Security Council for
a resolution...
1038
00:53:06,956 --> 00:53:08,855
to put pressure on Iraq.
1039
00:53:08,857 --> 00:53:10,824
President Bush will address
the United Nations today...
1040
00:53:10,826 --> 00:53:13,159
in hopes of putting together
a multi-national coalition...
1041
00:53:13,161 --> 00:53:14,994
to disarm Saddam Hussein.
1042
00:53:14,996 --> 00:53:17,098
The White House is lobbying
Congress to authorize...
1043
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,199
the use of force in Iraq.
1044
00:53:19,201 --> 00:53:21,268
The minute these guys get
their hands on anything...
1045
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:22,936
remotely resembling evidence...
1046
00:53:22,938 --> 00:53:24,871
they leak it to
The New York Times.
1047
00:53:24,873 --> 00:53:26,273
Now, I understand the position
you're in...
1048
00:53:26,275 --> 00:53:28,909
but please don't hang up on me.
1049
00:53:28,911 --> 00:53:30,376
Okay.
1050
00:53:30,378 --> 00:53:33,947
Okay, the vice president
of the United States...
1051
00:53:33,949 --> 00:53:37,384
went to the V.F.W. and said that
Saddam Hussein...
1052
00:53:37,386 --> 00:53:40,353
is on the threshold of
developing a nuclear weapon.
1053
00:53:40,355 --> 00:53:42,956
Then he goes on national
television...
1054
00:53:42,958 --> 00:53:44,190
and says the same thing.
1055
00:53:44,192 --> 00:53:47,460
Your question?
1056
00:53:47,462 --> 00:53:50,898
Ask the question.
1057
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,933
What I want to know is,
is Dick Cheney ignoring...
1058
00:53:53,935 --> 00:53:56,503
good intelligence that
contradicts his assumptions...
1059
00:53:56,505 --> 00:54:00,474
or is he just getting bad
intelligence?
1060
00:54:00,476 --> 00:54:04,081
The vice president is lying.
1061
00:54:06,281 --> 00:54:08,181
Thank you, thank you so much.
1062
00:54:08,183 --> 00:54:10,451
What? What, what, what?
What'd she say?
1063
00:54:10,453 --> 00:54:12,186
He's lying.
1064
00:54:12,188 --> 00:54:14,188
- He's lying.
- Cheney is lying.
1065
00:54:14,190 --> 00:54:16,389
- Cheney's lying!
- Cheney's lying!
1066
00:54:16,391 --> 00:54:18,925
- He's lying! John!
- He's lying!
1067
00:54:18,927 --> 00:54:21,027
John!
1068
00:54:21,029 --> 00:54:22,262
Where the hell is he?
1069
00:54:22,264 --> 00:54:23,931
Here we go. Here we go.
1070
00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:25,866
- He's lying.
- He's lying.
1071
00:54:25,868 --> 00:54:27,835
Cheney's lying.
1072
00:54:27,837 --> 00:54:29,270
Where did this come from?
1073
00:54:29,272 --> 00:54:30,938
Loose Nukes.
1074
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:32,740
Okay.
1075
00:54:32,742 --> 00:54:35,208
Now, we know what's being talked
about, we got to get inside...
1076
00:54:35,210 --> 00:54:38,212
those meetings and find out if
there's a dissenting opinion.
1077
00:54:38,214 --> 00:54:40,014
I may have a guy.
1078
00:54:40,016 --> 00:54:41,447
Anybody we know?
1079
00:54:41,449 --> 00:54:43,052
The Usual Suspect.
1080
00:54:54,297 --> 00:54:56,262
You didn't want to do
this in a parking garage?
1081
00:54:56,264 --> 00:54:58,898
If there was one that served
Pad Thai, I would.
1082
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,302
How's civilian life?
1083
00:55:01,304 --> 00:55:03,904
My retirement lasted about
four hours.
1084
00:55:03,906 --> 00:55:05,605
You're with Knight Ridder?
1085
00:55:05,607 --> 00:55:07,974
I don't even have a desk yet.
How the hell do you know that?
1086
00:55:07,976 --> 00:55:09,476
I have my ways.
1087
00:55:09,478 --> 00:55:11,344
You been following what we're
doing over there?
1088
00:55:11,346 --> 00:55:12,579
Yes, I have.
1089
00:55:12,581 --> 00:55:14,081
And?
1090
00:55:14,083 --> 00:55:15,849
You two may be singlehandedly
saving...
1091
00:55:15,851 --> 00:55:18,953
the Fourth Estate from
extinction.
1092
00:55:18,955 --> 00:55:21,621
Mainstream media hasn't picked
up a thing we been running.
1093
00:55:21,623 --> 00:55:23,257
Should be all the confirmation
you need...
1094
00:55:23,259 --> 00:55:24,494
that you're onto something.
1095
00:55:27,462 --> 00:55:30,096
What can I do for you?
1096
00:55:30,098 --> 00:55:32,132
We need some help with the
higher ups.
1097
00:55:32,134 --> 00:55:33,132
How high?
1098
00:55:33,134 --> 00:55:34,869
High as you can get us.
1099
00:55:34,871 --> 00:55:36,570
You've been around a long time,
Joe.
1100
00:55:36,572 --> 00:55:39,072
I doubt there's anything there
that'll surprise you.
1101
00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:40,875
I was married one time
to a woman who thought...
1102
00:55:40,877 --> 00:55:43,043
New Hampshire was the capital
of Massachusetts.
1103
00:55:43,045 --> 00:55:46,012
There's always something you
don't see coming.
1104
00:55:46,014 --> 00:55:49,349
What do you want to know?
1105
00:55:49,351 --> 00:55:52,453
Everything the administration
doesn't want us to know.
1106
00:55:52,455 --> 00:55:55,859
You and I are going to be eating
a lot of Pad Thai.
1107
00:56:00,897 --> 00:56:02,896
What kind of time frame
are we looking at?
1108
00:56:02,898 --> 00:56:04,297
Next month, Congress
is scheduled to vote...
1109
00:56:04,299 --> 00:56:05,565
on whether or not to give
the president...
1110
00:56:05,567 --> 00:56:07,268
the authorization to go to war.
1111
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:08,335
Are the votes there?
1112
00:56:08,337 --> 00:56:10,003
The administration thinks so.
1113
00:56:10,005 --> 00:56:15,409
Mr. President, 38 years ago,
I, Robert C. Byrd...
1114
00:56:15,411 --> 00:56:19,012
voted on the Tonkin Gulf
Resolution.
1115
00:56:19,014 --> 00:56:22,549
The resolution that authorized
the president to use military...
1116
00:56:22,551 --> 00:56:24,550
force to repel armed attacks...
1117
00:56:24,552 --> 00:56:28,989
and to prevent further communist
aggression in Southeast Asia.
1118
00:56:28,991 --> 00:56:32,625
A joint resolution to authorize
the use of United States...
1119
00:56:32,627 --> 00:56:36,130
armed forces against Iraq should
be brought to a close.
1120
00:56:36,132 --> 00:56:38,331
The clerk will call the roll.
1121
00:56:38,333 --> 00:56:40,534
Mr. Biden, aye.
1122
00:56:40,536 --> 00:56:42,569
Mrs. Clinton, aye.
1123
00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:45,038
It was this resolution that
provided the basis...
1124
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,942
for American involvement
in the war in Vietnam.
1125
00:56:48,944 --> 00:56:51,277
Mr. Kerry, aye.
1126
00:56:51,279 --> 00:56:53,447
Mr. Lieberman, aye.
1127
00:56:53,449 --> 00:56:55,416
Mr. Lott, aye.
1128
00:56:55,418 --> 00:56:57,351
It was this resolution...
1129
00:56:57,353 --> 00:57:02,389
that lead to the deaths
of 58,000 Americans.
1130
00:57:02,391 --> 00:57:04,724
Mr. McCain, aye.
1131
00:57:04,726 --> 00:57:06,960
Mr. McConnell, aye.
1132
00:57:06,962 --> 00:57:12,099
After all that carnage, we began
to learn that in voting...
1133
00:57:12,101 --> 00:57:14,168
for the Tonkin Gulf
resolution...
1134
00:57:14,170 --> 00:57:17,304
we were basing our votes
on bad information.
1135
00:57:17,306 --> 00:57:19,572
And history is repeating itself.
1136
00:57:19,574 --> 00:57:21,708
Mr. Santorum, aye.
1137
00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:25,079
I urge senators to go down
on the Capital Mall...
1138
00:57:25,081 --> 00:57:27,581
and look at the Vietnam
Memorial.
1139
00:57:27,583 --> 00:57:30,650
Nearly every day, you will find
someone at that wall...
1140
00:57:30,652 --> 00:57:32,987
weeping for a loved one.
1141
00:57:32,989 --> 00:57:35,054
Mr. Sessions, aye.
1142
00:57:35,056 --> 00:57:37,558
I will always remember the words
of Senator Wayne Morse.
1143
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,027
Mr. Specter, aye.
1144
00:57:40,029 --> 00:57:42,295
He stated, "The resolution will
pass and senators..."
1145
00:57:42,297 --> 00:57:46,032
"who vote for it will live
to regret it."
1146
00:57:46,034 --> 00:57:48,067
We got K-10, we got Dixie,
we don't need another source.
1147
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:49,670
You know we got this.
1148
00:57:49,672 --> 00:57:51,637
Look, when you're accusing the
secretary of defense...
1149
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:53,507
of running a shadow
intelligence unit...
1150
00:57:53,509 --> 00:57:56,076
out of the Pentagon, it's nice
to have a little insurance.
1151
00:57:56,078 --> 00:57:57,313
That's all I'm saying.
1152
00:58:01,384 --> 00:58:03,750
All right, let's share it
with the rest of the class.
1153
00:58:03,752 --> 00:58:05,485
You want to tell them?
1154
00:58:05,487 --> 00:58:09,123
Earlier today, I was summoned
to the Pentagon.
1155
00:58:09,125 --> 00:58:10,456
By whom?
1156
00:58:10,458 --> 00:58:13,527
Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick
sent a message saying...
1157
00:58:13,529 --> 00:58:15,329
"All your sources are retired
generals."
1158
00:58:15,331 --> 00:58:17,264
And I said, "All due respect,
sir..."
1159
00:58:17,266 --> 00:58:20,199
"80% of my sources are
active military."
1160
00:58:20,201 --> 00:58:22,036
"Some of them are working
in this building..."
1161
00:58:22,038 --> 00:58:24,237
"and some of them are actually
working on your staff."
1162
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:27,206
"And hell, one or two of them
might even be in this room."
1163
00:58:27,208 --> 00:58:29,342
Did you actually have sources
in the room?
1164
00:58:29,344 --> 00:58:33,144
No, but it was fun watching him
sweat like whores in church.
1165
00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:37,180
How close are we to getting
something we can run with
1166
00:58:37,185 --> 00:58:38,585
on the Office of Special Plans?
1167
00:58:38,587 --> 00:58:40,420
Well, we already got...
1168
00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:43,056
No, we're just gonna check
with a couple more sources.
1169
00:58:43,058 --> 00:58:45,058
What's wrong with the sources
you have?
1170
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:47,494
Well, we just want to be
certain.
1171
00:58:47,496 --> 00:58:50,496
You know, you sit on a story
like this, the dam bursts.
1172
00:58:50,498 --> 00:58:52,401
Let's just move on this,
okay, boys?
1173
00:58:56,304 --> 00:58:57,637
When are you gonna be finished?
1174
00:58:57,639 --> 00:59:01,643
Just a few more minutes, baby.
1175
00:59:04,246 --> 00:59:08,181
I can't sleep with the computer
light on.
1176
00:59:08,183 --> 00:59:10,619
Actually, I'm done.
1177
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:18,425
So, what are you working on?
1178
00:59:18,427 --> 00:59:21,228
Rumsfeld has a secret Intel
group that's going...
1179
00:59:21,230 --> 00:59:26,235
around the CIA to manufacture
a case for war.
1180
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:32,840
What the fuck, Jonathan?
1181
00:59:32,842 --> 00:59:34,507
What?
1182
00:59:34,509 --> 00:59:36,478
Have you been talking about this
on the phone?
1183
00:59:38,681 --> 00:59:40,179
Yeah, of course.
1184
00:59:40,181 --> 00:59:42,051
So, what?
1185
00:59:44,587 --> 00:59:48,588
- They will hear you.
- Vlatka.
1186
00:59:48,590 --> 00:59:51,224
You're writing about infighting
between spy agencies.
1187
00:59:51,226 --> 00:59:52,326
So?
1188
00:59:52,328 --> 00:59:54,728
They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
1189
00:59:54,730 --> 00:59:57,364
They listen to your calls,
they read your emails.
1190
00:59:57,366 --> 00:59:59,366
They probably bugged this house.
1191
00:59:59,368 --> 01:00:01,367
You're being paranoid.
1192
01:00:01,369 --> 01:00:02,735
You're being naive.
1193
01:00:02,737 --> 01:00:06,139
This isn't Yugoslavia,
this is America.
1194
01:00:06,141 --> 01:00:08,407
America has changed.
1195
01:00:08,409 --> 01:00:09,775
War is big business for them.
1196
01:00:09,777 --> 01:00:12,445
You get in their way,
they're gonna kill you.
1197
01:00:12,447 --> 01:00:17,217
Honey, you are being ridiculous.
All right? Come on.
1198
01:00:17,219 --> 01:00:20,454
Don't you get it?
1199
01:00:20,456 --> 01:00:23,290
You know what these people
are capable of?
1200
01:00:23,292 --> 01:00:25,893
You have a family!
1201
01:00:25,895 --> 01:00:29,498
Vlatka. Vlatka!
1202
01:00:34,302 --> 01:00:38,639
Oh, somebody's struggling.
What's the matter?
1203
01:00:38,641 --> 01:00:41,942
Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
1204
01:00:41,944 --> 01:00:43,576
All right!
1205
01:00:43,578 --> 01:00:47,447
No, not that like that. It was
conspiracy theories.
1206
01:00:47,449 --> 01:00:48,815
About what?
1207
01:00:48,817 --> 01:00:52,351
Oh... she thinks the government
is monitoring us.
1208
01:00:52,353 --> 01:00:55,524
I mean, it's ridiculous.
1209
01:00:57,625 --> 01:00:59,161
Check your email.
1210
01:01:11,306 --> 01:01:13,239
John, you got to see this.
1211
01:01:13,241 --> 01:01:15,442
Oh, hold on a second.
1212
01:01:15,444 --> 01:01:18,648
Arthur, I really don't want to
have this conversation again.
1213
01:01:20,782 --> 01:01:24,219
He hung up. What is it?
1214
01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:32,762
What do we do?
1215
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,447
- You're such a wuss.
- You're a wuss.
1216
01:01:53,449 --> 01:01:55,415
You're a much bigger wuss.
1217
01:01:55,417 --> 01:01:56,916
Shut up, will you stop it,
you're being a child.
1218
01:01:56,918 --> 01:01:58,884
- You're being a...
- Shut up!
1219
01:01:58,886 --> 01:02:01,954
Today's UN Security
Council resolution...
1220
01:02:01,956 --> 01:02:05,958
can be boiled down to four
words, the clock is ticking.
1221
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,996
Iraq's only alternative to full
compliance, President Bush...
1222
01:02:09,998 --> 01:02:13,032
made clear today, is
of military confrontation.
1223
01:02:13,034 --> 01:02:16,302
The full disarmament of
weapons of mass destruction...
1224
01:02:16,304 --> 01:02:17,871
by Iraq will occur.
1225
01:02:17,873 --> 01:02:23,646
The only question for the Iraqi
regime is to decide how.
1226
01:02:35,491 --> 01:02:36,822
Son of a bitch.
1227
01:02:36,824 --> 01:02:38,525
They beat us.
1228
01:02:38,527 --> 01:02:40,726
But they missed the whole point
of why the unit was set up.
1229
01:02:40,728 --> 01:02:42,029
It doesn't matter, they got
the scoop.
1230
01:02:42,031 --> 01:02:43,730
With what?
1231
01:02:43,732 --> 01:02:45,599
There's nothing about
cherry picking intelligence.
1232
01:02:45,601 --> 01:02:47,833
There's nothing about bypassing
other agencies.
1233
01:02:47,835 --> 01:02:49,436
We can still run ours.
1234
01:02:49,438 --> 01:02:50,737
John, no one's gonna pay
attention...
1235
01:02:50,739 --> 01:02:53,540
to a second story explaining
all that.
1236
01:02:53,542 --> 01:02:55,308
We had it.
1237
01:02:55,310 --> 01:02:57,311
Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be
pissed.
1238
01:02:57,313 --> 01:02:59,515
Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
1239
01:03:13,061 --> 01:03:15,862
How is it possible he hasn't
talked to us all day?
1240
01:03:15,864 --> 01:03:18,534
He's giving us the silent
treatment.
1241
01:03:21,536 --> 01:03:23,536
Oh, shit, here he comes.
1242
01:03:23,538 --> 01:03:25,707
Oh, Jesus.
1243
01:03:30,946 --> 01:03:32,949
You had the story.
1244
01:03:34,717 --> 01:03:36,719
Don't ever forget how
it feels to get beat.
1245
01:03:41,123 --> 01:03:43,556
The only information Congress
is getting...
1246
01:03:43,558 --> 01:03:45,759
is coming directly from the
administration.
1247
01:03:45,761 --> 01:03:48,594
Iraq is a huge country about
the size of France...
1248
01:03:48,596 --> 01:03:50,630
if they want to hide their
weapons of mass destruction...
1249
01:03:50,632 --> 01:03:52,398
they're going to be able
to do so.
1250
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,768
They're not going to rethink
their positions...
1251
01:03:54,770 --> 01:03:57,404
unless they are provided
with independent intel.
1252
01:03:57,406 --> 01:04:00,040
No one who's supported the
authorization for war...
1253
01:04:00,042 --> 01:04:03,777
in Congress, in Iraq, not the
president...
1254
01:04:03,779 --> 01:04:07,748
I am sure would go to war just
because he wants to go to war.
1255
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:11,384
Rumsfeld's been trying to sell
this idea that an Iraqi...
1256
01:04:11,386 --> 01:04:15,154
intelligence officer offered
bin Laden safe haven in '99.
1257
01:04:15,156 --> 01:04:16,690
Yeah.
1258
01:04:16,692 --> 01:04:18,925
Well, if that offer actually
had happened...
1259
01:04:18,927 --> 01:04:22,061
bin Laden would have told Saddam
to go fuck himself.
1260
01:04:22,063 --> 01:04:24,063
What do you make of the
statement made...
1261
01:04:24,065 --> 01:04:26,666
by the Iraqi government that
Iraq has no weapons...
1262
01:04:26,668 --> 01:04:29,034
of mass destruction
and is not developing?
1263
01:04:29,036 --> 01:04:30,806
They're lying.
1264
01:04:32,641 --> 01:04:34,007
Next.
1265
01:04:34,009 --> 01:04:35,608
Your daughter is lovely.
1266
01:04:35,610 --> 01:04:37,177
Well, I wish I could take
credit.
1267
01:04:37,179 --> 01:04:38,878
She gets it from her mother.
1268
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,079
Dad, can I get you
anything?
1269
01:04:40,081 --> 01:04:41,915
- Oh, no, thanks, sweetie.
- Mr. Strobel?
1270
01:04:41,917 --> 01:04:43,719
- I'm fine.
- All right.
1271
01:04:46,889 --> 01:04:48,621
Just real casual.
1272
01:04:48,623 --> 01:04:50,190
Tom and I were just talking
about your latest article.
1273
01:04:50,192 --> 01:04:51,724
Oh, yeah?
1274
01:04:51,726 --> 01:04:53,492
Seems like you don't trust
politicians.
1275
01:04:53,494 --> 01:04:56,529
Well, that's a pretty solid
rule of journalism.
1276
01:04:56,531 --> 01:04:58,632
Even when they're talking
about war?
1277
01:04:58,634 --> 01:05:00,866
Especially when they're talking
about war.
1278
01:05:00,868 --> 01:05:02,969
You really believe there's
no WMD?
1279
01:05:02,971 --> 01:05:05,038
Our names are on the article.
1280
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,040
They don't say that
there's no WMD.
1281
01:05:07,042 --> 01:05:08,541
They just said that the
administration...
1282
01:05:08,543 --> 01:05:09,976
hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
1283
01:05:09,978 --> 01:05:12,045
And you don't think
they'll find any?
1284
01:05:12,047 --> 01:05:15,014
No, I don't.
1285
01:05:15,016 --> 01:05:16,215
You don't know that.
1286
01:05:16,217 --> 01:05:17,951
No, we don't.
1287
01:05:17,953 --> 01:05:20,152
But before we send our kids
to their possible deaths...
1288
01:05:20,154 --> 01:05:21,887
don't you think the
administration...
1289
01:05:21,889 --> 01:05:23,790
has an obligation to provide
proof of their rationale?
1290
01:05:23,792 --> 01:05:26,960
What if that proof comes in the
form of a mushroom cloud?
1291
01:05:26,962 --> 01:05:30,130
Okay, you've been watching
Fox News again?
1292
01:05:30,132 --> 01:05:32,732
Rice, Cheney, and President Bush
have all said the same thing.
1293
01:05:32,734 --> 01:05:34,701
Oh, well, then it must be true.
1294
01:05:34,703 --> 01:05:36,670
You kids are too young
to remember...
1295
01:05:36,672 --> 01:05:39,072
how close we came to nuclear war
in '62.
1296
01:05:39,074 --> 01:05:40,940
Hell, Warren, you were born
the very day...
1297
01:05:40,942 --> 01:05:44,177
President Kennedy ordered the
blockade against Cuba.
1298
01:05:44,179 --> 01:05:47,012
The most powerful enemy we knew
was gonna put nuclear weapons...
1299
01:05:47,014 --> 01:05:49,114
90 miles off our coast.
1300
01:05:49,116 --> 01:05:50,951
The president had to demonstrate
strength.
1301
01:05:50,953 --> 01:05:54,855
And the next day, Kennedy sent
Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
1302
01:05:54,857 --> 01:05:56,958
to offer proof that the missiles
existed.
1303
01:05:58,159 --> 01:05:59,992
It's not just Fox News.
1304
01:05:59,994 --> 01:06:03,262
It's the Washington Post.
It's The New York Times.
1305
01:06:03,264 --> 01:06:06,199
Hell, proof is coming from every
major media outlet...
1306
01:06:06,201 --> 01:06:09,105
in the country, except yours.
1307
01:06:10,672 --> 01:06:12,204
Okay.
1308
01:06:12,206 --> 01:06:17,813
Uh, I think I forgot the
hamburger buns, excuse me.
1309
01:06:19,514 --> 01:06:22,150
I'm going to grab a beer.
1310
01:06:24,752 --> 01:06:26,521
Jesus, Dad.
1311
01:06:37,699 --> 01:06:38,864
Are you okay, bro?
1312
01:06:38,866 --> 01:06:40,469
Yeah.
1313
01:06:42,270 --> 01:06:45,572
Are we good reporters?
1314
01:06:45,574 --> 01:06:46,672
What?
1315
01:06:46,674 --> 01:06:49,608
I mean, are we doing anything...
1316
01:06:49,610 --> 01:06:51,277
other than practicing good
journalism?
1317
01:06:51,279 --> 01:06:53,313
No, we're doing exactly what
we're supposed...
1318
01:06:53,315 --> 01:06:55,849
Then, why the fuck are we
the only ones...
1319
01:06:55,851 --> 01:06:58,020
running these fucking stories?!
1320
01:07:05,927 --> 01:07:08,228
He just wanted you to see
all sides to him...
1321
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:09,866
before you take it to the
next level.
1322
01:07:15,170 --> 01:07:16,969
Almost three months ago,
the United Nations...
1323
01:07:16,971 --> 01:07:19,139
Security Council gave
Saddam Hussein...
1324
01:07:19,141 --> 01:07:22,342
his final chance to disarm.
1325
01:07:22,344 --> 01:07:24,177
Our intelligence officials
estimate...
1326
01:07:24,179 --> 01:07:26,045
that Saddam Hussein had the
materials to produce...
1327
01:07:26,047 --> 01:07:28,949
What's the point of having
U.N. weapons inspections...
1328
01:07:28,951 --> 01:07:31,585
if Bush and Cheney are just
going to ignore the results?
1329
01:07:31,587 --> 01:07:34,654
Well, when you're creating
your own reality...
1330
01:07:34,656 --> 01:07:36,655
it's pretty easy to ignore
the facts.
1331
01:07:36,657 --> 01:07:38,757
And so what? Due diligence is
too inconvenient...
1332
01:07:38,759 --> 01:07:41,261
for the mainstream media
at this point?
1333
01:07:41,263 --> 01:07:43,163
When news is a profit center...
1334
01:07:43,165 --> 01:07:44,931
Access becomes currency.
1335
01:07:44,933 --> 01:07:46,068
Exactly.
1336
01:07:47,802 --> 01:07:49,034
I'm proud of you, John.
1337
01:07:49,036 --> 01:07:50,103
Why?
1338
01:07:50,105 --> 01:07:53,873
For not wavering.
1339
01:07:53,875 --> 01:07:55,241
It's got to be tough.
1340
01:07:55,243 --> 01:07:56,942
It's not that tough.
1341
01:07:56,944 --> 01:08:01,146
I know who their sources are and
I know who our sources are.
1342
01:08:01,148 --> 01:08:04,784
"Iraqi Dissidents Reassured
in a Talk with Bush..."
1343
01:08:04,786 --> 01:08:07,987
"About the Post-Hussein Era."
1344
01:08:07,989 --> 01:08:09,322
By Judith Miller.
1345
01:08:09,324 --> 01:08:11,056
She'd quote a carnival
fortune teller...
1346
01:08:11,058 --> 01:08:13,826
if he was willing to say
Iraq had WMD.
1347
01:08:13,828 --> 01:08:16,630
We gotta dig into the
declassified...
1348
01:08:16,632 --> 01:08:17,997
national intelligence
estimate...
1349
01:08:17,999 --> 01:08:20,634
and find out if there are any
gems in there.
1350
01:08:20,636 --> 01:08:21,702
Yeah, I'd love to see...
1351
01:08:21,704 --> 01:08:24,170
what they redacted from the
classified version.
1352
01:08:24,172 --> 01:08:25,771
Oh, what's going
on with Chalabi?
1353
01:08:25,773 --> 01:08:27,107
We're on it.
1354
01:08:27,109 --> 01:08:28,308
I'm gonna keep an eye
on my old boss.
1355
01:08:28,310 --> 01:08:30,109
- I got a feeling.
- Yeah...
1356
01:08:30,111 --> 01:08:33,114
Colin may be the last person
standing between peace and war.
1357
01:08:35,150 --> 01:08:36,319
Yeah.
1358
01:08:43,959 --> 01:08:45,861
Goddamn it!
1359
01:08:51,365 --> 01:08:52,767
Fuck!
1360
01:08:58,173 --> 01:08:59,872
Angela, did the mayor
set a date...
1361
01:08:59,874 --> 01:09:01,073
for the fundraiser yet?
1362
01:09:01,075 --> 01:09:04,043
Hey, Arthur, I was totally
wrong.
1363
01:09:04,045 --> 01:09:06,945
Your head isn't literally
up your ass.
1364
01:09:06,947 --> 01:09:09,748
It's always a pleasure to see
you, John...
1365
01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:12,284
but would you please wait
outside?
1366
01:09:12,286 --> 01:09:14,787
You know, it's bad enough you're
ignoring all our work...
1367
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:17,157
but the fact that you're running
these bullshit...
1368
01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:20,726
Judy Miller pieces is
unconscionable.
1369
01:09:20,728 --> 01:09:22,127
Not in here, John.
Okay, please?
1370
01:09:22,129 --> 01:09:26,032
Let's take it in my office.
Excuse me.
1371
01:09:26,034 --> 01:09:28,201
Jesus.
1372
01:09:28,203 --> 01:09:29,969
Look, as painful as this
might seem...
1373
01:09:29,971 --> 01:09:31,770
I don't answer to you, John.
1374
01:09:31,772 --> 01:09:33,939
Yes, as evidenced by the fact
that you still have a job.
1375
01:09:33,941 --> 01:09:36,042
You know what, my responsibility
is to my readers.
1376
01:09:36,044 --> 01:09:37,711
They're citizens who are
patriots...
1377
01:09:37,713 --> 01:09:39,378
they're citizens who support
our troops.
1378
01:09:39,380 --> 01:09:41,480
And how do you do that, Arthur?
1379
01:09:41,482 --> 01:09:44,050
By going down on
The New York Times?
1380
01:09:44,052 --> 01:09:45,952
I don't have time for this.
1381
01:09:45,954 --> 01:09:47,386
No, you don't have time.
1382
01:09:47,388 --> 01:09:48,954
You don't have time.
1383
01:09:48,956 --> 01:09:50,355
You know, one day,
The New York Times...
1384
01:09:50,357 --> 01:09:52,192
is going to apologize
to its readers.
1385
01:09:52,194 --> 01:09:55,929
And when that day comes, are you
gonna write your own apology?
1386
01:09:55,931 --> 01:09:58,331
Or are you just going to run
theirs?
1387
01:09:58,333 --> 01:10:00,268
Have a nice day, John.
1388
01:10:02,803 --> 01:10:04,738
It is beginning to look more
and more as though...
1389
01:10:04,740 --> 01:10:06,939
war with Iraq is inevitable.
1390
01:10:06,941 --> 01:10:09,943
The Showdown with Iraq and the
countdown to a speech...
1391
01:10:09,945 --> 01:10:12,144
by Secretary of State
Colin Powell...
1392
01:10:12,146 --> 01:10:14,346
that could move the world
closer to war.
1393
01:10:14,348 --> 01:10:16,815
There's not much left for the
soldiers to do but wait...
1394
01:10:16,817 --> 01:10:20,286
for orders to attack, Ryan
Chillcoat reports...
1395
01:10:20,288 --> 01:10:23,288
That's so frustrating.
1396
01:10:23,290 --> 01:10:25,194
I don't know that I could
do what you do.
1397
01:10:27,329 --> 01:10:28,862
You know, I once got it
in my head...
1398
01:10:28,864 --> 01:10:30,930
that I should hike the
Appalachian Trail.
1399
01:10:30,932 --> 01:10:33,166
Thought that it would just be a
good challenge for myself.
1400
01:10:33,168 --> 01:10:36,772
Then I look at it on a map
and it's like 2200 miles.
1401
01:10:38,973 --> 01:10:40,774
I realized...
1402
01:10:40,776 --> 01:10:42,375
That it would take a lifetime?
1403
01:10:42,377 --> 01:10:44,112
Yeah.
1404
01:10:47,548 --> 01:10:49,217
Or we could walk it together.
1405
01:10:51,285 --> 01:10:55,387
I'm gonna hold you to that.
1406
01:10:55,389 --> 01:10:57,256
Worldwide resistance
is mounting...
1407
01:10:57,258 --> 01:11:00,993
against America's military
intervention into Iraq.
1408
01:11:00,995 --> 01:11:03,930
From US cities to Europe and
the Middle East...
1409
01:11:03,932 --> 01:11:07,000
demonstrators have taken to the
streets in opposition...
1410
01:11:07,002 --> 01:11:10,205
to the United States'
threat to invade Iraq.
1411
01:11:17,846 --> 01:11:19,878
Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay,
how do you do?
1412
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,113
- Hello.
- I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
1413
01:11:21,115 --> 01:11:22,917
- Hi.
- Now, please, follow me.
1414
01:11:24,319 --> 01:11:25,918
Who's this dude?
1415
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,523
Guy who used to deliver pizzas.
I'm not kidding.
1416
01:11:30,525 --> 01:11:32,292
Minister Chalabi,
Mr. Jonathan Landay...
1417
01:11:32,294 --> 01:11:36,028
and Warren Strobel from Knight
Ridder News.
1418
01:11:36,030 --> 01:11:38,264
Gentlemen, welcome.
1419
01:11:38,266 --> 01:11:42,135
Hey. Thank you for finally
agreeing to meet with us.
1420
01:11:42,137 --> 01:11:44,604
I've been very busy.
1421
01:11:44,606 --> 01:11:47,006
Talking to our competitors.
1422
01:11:47,008 --> 01:11:49,309
I speak with whomever wishes
to speak with me.
1423
01:11:49,311 --> 01:11:51,610
After all, I have nothing
to hide...
1424
01:11:51,612 --> 01:11:55,582
which is more than I can say
for Saddam.
1425
01:11:55,584 --> 01:11:57,350
Okay, well, since you brought
him up...
1426
01:11:57,352 --> 01:11:59,051
I thought we might talk
about what...
1427
01:11:59,053 --> 01:12:01,119
you know about his weapons
and how he might be hiding them.
1428
01:12:01,121 --> 01:12:06,525
He has WMD and he's hiding them,
that I know.
1429
01:12:06,527 --> 01:12:09,095
Right, and you know that how?
1430
01:12:09,097 --> 01:12:12,297
I know everything that's
happening in my country.
1431
01:12:12,299 --> 01:12:15,568
Even though Iraq hasn't been
your country for over a decade?
1432
01:12:15,570 --> 01:12:20,473
I may be an exile, but I'm still
an Iraqi.
1433
01:12:20,475 --> 01:12:22,942
Well, I think the point my
colleague is trying to make...
1434
01:12:22,944 --> 01:12:26,078
is how would you, an enemy
of Saddam, in exile...
1435
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,349
have access to such valuable
information?
1436
01:12:29,351 --> 01:12:31,384
I maintain close
relationships...
1437
01:12:31,386 --> 01:12:33,552
with dissident intelligence
sources.
1438
01:12:33,554 --> 01:12:35,220
Is there a way we can
verify that?
1439
01:12:35,222 --> 01:12:36,989
No.
1440
01:12:36,991 --> 01:12:38,925
See, that's kind of a problem
for us...
1441
01:12:38,927 --> 01:12:40,460
because we can't write a story...
1442
01:12:40,462 --> 01:12:46,232
I want what America wants,
a free and democratic Iraq.
1443
01:12:46,234 --> 01:12:48,201
With you as its leader?
1444
01:12:48,203 --> 01:12:51,904
If the people of Iraq wish
for me to return, yes.
1445
01:12:51,906 --> 01:12:55,908
I want the opportunity to help
rebuild my country...
1446
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:58,411
the way Mandela did
in South Africa.
1447
01:12:58,413 --> 01:13:02,948
But Mandela didn't ask the U.S.
to invade his country.
1448
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:06,051
He wasn't fighting terrorists.
1449
01:13:06,053 --> 01:13:08,287
With all due respect, that's
where the red flags...
1450
01:13:08,289 --> 01:13:10,122
start to go up for us.
1451
01:13:10,124 --> 01:13:12,625
Are you implying that I've
created a false narrative...
1452
01:13:12,627 --> 01:13:14,394
for my own pursuits?
1453
01:13:14,396 --> 01:13:16,695
Is there another reason why
you'd create a false narrative?
1454
01:13:16,697 --> 01:13:19,532
I don't lie!
1455
01:13:19,534 --> 01:13:22,368
Saddam Hussein has mobile
chemical...
1456
01:13:22,370 --> 01:13:24,369
and biological weapons labs.
1457
01:13:24,371 --> 01:13:28,608
He has a nuclear program.
He has ties to terrorists.
1458
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:32,144
And if you don't believe me,
just ask the many other...
1459
01:13:32,146 --> 01:13:34,046
defectors and hear
what they say.
1460
01:13:34,048 --> 01:13:36,082
They will all tell
you the same thing.
1461
01:13:36,084 --> 01:13:41,056
Don't they all get their
information from you?
1462
01:13:44,491 --> 01:13:47,493
If you were wondering why
it took so long for me...
1463
01:13:47,495 --> 01:13:53,265
to meet with you, it's this
smug attitude.
1464
01:13:53,267 --> 01:13:57,135
You have no intention of
reporting anything I've said.
1465
01:13:57,137 --> 01:13:59,604
Do you want us to just be your
cheerleaders?
1466
01:13:59,606 --> 01:14:01,107
All right, I think we
should go.
1467
01:14:01,109 --> 01:14:04,543
Thank you for your time.
1468
01:14:04,545 --> 01:14:09,148
Now I see why no one reads
anything you write.
1469
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:12,719
I am an advocate for the removal
of a vicious dictator...
1470
01:14:12,721 --> 01:14:17,457
for a free Iraq, an Iraq that
will one day be a close ally...
1471
01:14:17,459 --> 01:14:22,228
to your country, to Israel, and
to all of the Western world.
1472
01:14:22,230 --> 01:14:25,564
And exactly how will this happen
after Saddam Hussein is gone?
1473
01:14:25,566 --> 01:14:27,265
All right, come on, Landay.
1474
01:14:27,267 --> 01:14:29,101
No, no, no, he says the world
will be better off...
1475
01:14:29,103 --> 01:14:30,603
but he doesn't say how.
1476
01:14:30,605 --> 01:14:33,105
How would the removal
of Saddam Hussein...
1477
01:14:33,107 --> 01:14:36,141
not plunge Iraq into a bloody
civil war?
1478
01:14:36,143 --> 01:14:38,077
Tell us something that makes
sense...
1479
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:43,315
anything that makes sense, and
we'll write that story today.
1480
01:14:43,317 --> 01:14:44,583
You can't!
1481
01:14:44,585 --> 01:14:47,185
Because you have no
idea what happens next.
1482
01:14:47,187 --> 01:14:49,221
- And neither does anyone else.
- John. John!
1483
01:14:49,223 --> 01:14:52,158
I would rather go back and write
for my high school paper...
1484
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,493
than to be used by you...
1485
01:14:53,495 --> 01:14:56,561
to sell the American public
your bullshit.
1486
01:14:56,563 --> 01:14:57,532
All right.
1487
01:15:01,703 --> 01:15:05,604
By the way, it's Knight Ridder.
1488
01:15:05,606 --> 01:15:07,407
Secretary of State Colin Powell
will make the case...
1489
01:15:07,409 --> 01:15:10,710
against Iraq in a nationally
televised address...
1490
01:15:10,712 --> 01:15:13,179
to the UN Security Council.
1491
01:15:13,181 --> 01:15:15,180
Looks like they're bringing
in the closer.
1492
01:15:15,182 --> 01:15:16,649
Mr. Secretary,
are you confident...
1493
01:15:16,651 --> 01:15:18,251
you will make your case, sir?
1494
01:15:18,253 --> 01:15:19,719
You'll see.
1495
01:15:19,721 --> 01:15:21,554
What the hell game have we've
been playing?
1496
01:15:21,556 --> 01:15:23,692
All we did is piss into the
wind.
1497
01:15:25,826 --> 01:15:28,827
We did our jobs.
1498
01:15:28,829 --> 01:15:32,230
I should never have become
a reporter.
1499
01:15:32,232 --> 01:15:35,270
Damn that Woodward and
Bernstein.
1500
01:15:37,739 --> 01:15:40,473
They took down a president
whose biggest crime...
1501
01:15:40,475 --> 01:15:44,310
was trying to cover up some
dirty political tricks.
1502
01:15:44,312 --> 01:15:46,679
This president's about to do the
worst thing any president...
1503
01:15:46,681 --> 01:15:49,118
could do and he'll probably
get re-elected.
1504
01:15:51,252 --> 01:15:53,187
To the democratic experiment.
1505
01:15:56,657 --> 01:15:58,291
Thank you, Mr. President.
1506
01:15:58,293 --> 01:16:00,592
My colleagues, every statement
I make today...
1507
01:16:00,594 --> 01:16:05,331
is backed up by sources,
solid sources.
1508
01:16:05,333 --> 01:16:08,734
The gravity of this moment is
matched by the gravity...
1509
01:16:08,736 --> 01:16:11,737
of the threat that Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction...
1510
01:16:11,739 --> 01:16:13,305
pose to the world.
1511
01:16:13,307 --> 01:16:17,109
It was a set up, the whole damn
thing was a set up.
1512
01:16:17,111 --> 01:16:19,644
Tenet sent Powell a stack
of files this high...
1513
01:16:19,646 --> 01:16:20,813
that supported the invasion.
1514
01:16:20,815 --> 01:16:22,814
Saddam Hussein is determined...
1515
01:16:22,816 --> 01:16:25,251
to get his hands
on a nuclear bomb.
1516
01:16:25,253 --> 01:16:26,618
Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
1517
01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:29,287
to push three main arguments
in those files.
1518
01:16:29,289 --> 01:16:30,823
One: Saddam's human rights
abuses...
1519
01:16:30,825 --> 01:16:32,390
which everybody knew about.
1520
01:16:32,392 --> 01:16:34,260
Two: his links to al Qaeda,
which Powell...
1521
01:16:34,262 --> 01:16:36,162
of course, threw right
in the trash.
1522
01:16:36,164 --> 01:16:40,800
And the third focused
on Iraq's WMD.
1523
01:16:40,802 --> 01:16:43,269
Leaving Saddam Hussein in
possession of weapons...
1524
01:16:43,271 --> 01:16:45,604
of mass destruction for a few
more months or years...
1525
01:16:45,606 --> 01:16:49,641
is not an option, not in a
post-September 11th world.
1526
01:16:49,643 --> 01:16:53,578
Over a four-day period, Powell
made every single CIA officer...
1527
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:56,815
defend every so-called piece
of evidence in those files.
1528
01:16:56,817 --> 01:16:58,650
He threw out 80% of them.
1529
01:16:58,652 --> 01:17:00,418
At the end of the four days...
1530
01:17:00,420 --> 01:17:02,654
Powell looked Tenet right
in the eye and said...
1531
01:17:02,656 --> 01:17:07,592
"George, can we stand
by every word of this?"
1532
01:17:07,594 --> 01:17:14,466
And Tenet said, "Everything in
there is gold, I promise you."
1533
01:17:14,468 --> 01:17:16,702
To which Powell replied, "Well,
that's good, George."
1534
01:17:16,704 --> 01:17:18,671
"I'm glad you feel that way,
'cause you're going to be..."
1535
01:17:18,673 --> 01:17:21,707
"sitting right behind me when
I present this to the world."
1536
01:17:21,709 --> 01:17:25,810
We must not fail in our duty
and our responsibility...
1537
01:17:25,812 --> 01:17:27,779
to the citizens of the
countries...
1538
01:17:27,781 --> 01:17:30,850
that are represented
by this body.
1539
01:17:30,852 --> 01:17:33,685
Colin took one for the team.
1540
01:17:33,687 --> 01:17:35,720
Always the good soldier.
1541
01:17:35,722 --> 01:17:37,723
Has the Iraqi regime fully...
1542
01:17:37,725 --> 01:17:41,327
and unconditionally disarmed?
1543
01:17:41,329 --> 01:17:44,497
The only acceptable outcome is
the one already defined...
1544
01:17:44,499 --> 01:17:47,265
by a unanimous vote of the
Security Council.
1545
01:17:47,267 --> 01:17:50,403
Total disarmament.
1546
01:17:50,405 --> 01:17:52,604
Great Britain, Spain and the
United States have introduced..
1547
01:17:52,606 --> 01:17:55,908
a new resolution stating that
Iraq has failed to meet...
1548
01:17:55,910 --> 01:18:02,782
the requirements
of Resolution 1441.
1549
01:18:02,784 --> 01:18:06,719
This is a fact, it cannot
be denied.
1550
01:18:06,721 --> 01:18:07,953
And what harm
would it do to give...
1551
01:18:07,955 --> 01:18:09,889
Saddam a final ultimatum?
1552
01:18:09,891 --> 01:18:12,792
A two or three day deadline
to disarm or face force?
1553
01:18:12,794 --> 01:18:15,394
September the 11th changed
the strategic thinking...
1554
01:18:15,396 --> 01:18:17,630
at least as far as I was
concerned...
1555
01:18:17,632 --> 01:18:20,265
for how to protect our country.
1556
01:18:20,267 --> 01:18:25,438
My job is to protect the
American people.
1557
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:28,440
Used to be that we could think
that you could contain...
1558
01:18:28,442 --> 01:18:30,309
a person like Saddam Hussein...
1559
01:18:30,311 --> 01:18:33,011
that oceans would protect us
from his type of terror.
1560
01:18:34,915 --> 01:18:36,916
September the 11th should say
to the American people...
1561
01:18:36,918 --> 01:18:38,818
Hello?
1562
01:18:38,820 --> 01:18:40,752
You need to pack your bags.
1563
01:18:40,754 --> 01:18:43,989
Right.
1564
01:18:43,991 --> 01:18:46,492
In the hands of a terrorist
organization...
1565
01:18:46,494 --> 01:18:49,828
could be deployed here at home.
1566
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:53,832
King, John King. This is a
scripted...
1567
01:18:53,834 --> 01:18:55,667
Thank you, Mr. President.
1568
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:58,003
Sir, how would you answer your
critics who say that they...
1569
01:18:58,005 --> 01:18:59,738
They think this is somehow
personal?
1570
01:18:59,740 --> 01:19:01,774
As Senator Kennedy put it
tonight...
1571
01:19:01,776 --> 01:19:04,277
he said your fixation
with Saddam Hussein...
1572
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:06,479
is making the world a more
dangerous place.
1573
01:19:06,481 --> 01:19:08,514
And as you prepare the American
people for the possibility...
1574
01:19:08,516 --> 01:19:10,716
of military conflict, could you
share with us...
1575
01:19:10,718 --> 01:19:12,851
any of the scenarios your
advisors have shared...
1576
01:19:12,853 --> 01:19:16,622
with you about worst-case
scenarios?
1577
01:19:16,624 --> 01:19:22,864
You make sure the... this country
knows what's going on out there.
1578
01:19:23,998 --> 01:19:26,431
- Yeah?
- I will.
1579
01:19:26,433 --> 01:19:30,735
I swore to protect and defend
the Constitution.
1580
01:19:30,737 --> 01:19:32,771
He has weapons of mass
destruction...
1581
01:19:32,773 --> 01:19:35,875
and he has used weapons
of mass destruction.
1582
01:19:35,877 --> 01:19:37,576
He has trained and financed...
1583
01:19:37,578 --> 01:19:40,046
al Qaeda-type organizations
before.
1584
01:19:40,048 --> 01:19:43,849
I take the threat seriously,
and I'll deal with the threat.
1585
01:19:43,851 --> 01:19:46,719
I hope it can be done
peacefully.
1586
01:19:46,721 --> 01:19:49,822
They hate what we stand for.
1587
01:19:49,824 --> 01:19:51,627
We love freedom, and we're
not changing.
1588
01:19:53,527 --> 01:19:55,493
Mr. President,
millions of Americans can...
1589
01:19:55,495 --> 01:19:58,497
recall a time when leaders from
both parties set this country..
1590
01:19:58,499 --> 01:20:00,733
on a mission of regime change
in Vietnam.
1591
01:20:00,735 --> 01:20:03,368
50,000 Americans died.
1592
01:20:03,370 --> 01:20:06,338
The regime is still there in
Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...
1593
01:20:06,340 --> 01:20:08,006
or threatened a single American
in 30 years...
1594
01:20:08,008 --> 01:20:09,809
since the war ended.
1595
01:20:09,811 --> 01:20:12,577
What can you say tonight, sir,
to the sons and daughters...
1596
01:20:12,579 --> 01:20:16,047
of the Americans who served in
Vietnam to assure them that...
1597
01:20:16,049 --> 01:20:19,818
you will not lead this country
down a similar path in Iraq?
1598
01:20:19,820 --> 01:20:22,787
That's a great question.
1599
01:20:22,789 --> 01:20:25,591
No doubt, there's risks with
any military operation.
1600
01:20:25,593 --> 01:20:27,426
I know that.
1601
01:20:27,428 --> 01:20:29,862
It's a good thing he can draw
on all that experience he got...
1602
01:20:29,864 --> 01:20:32,064
while not serving in the
National Guard.
1603
01:20:32,066 --> 01:20:35,434
But it's very clear what we
intend to do.
1604
01:20:35,436 --> 01:20:37,539
And our mission won't change.
1605
01:20:40,074 --> 01:20:44,743
It could last, you know, six
days, six weeks...
1606
01:20:44,745 --> 01:20:48,514
I doubt six months.
1607
01:20:48,516 --> 01:20:50,049
There's a lot of money to pay
for this...
1608
01:20:50,051 --> 01:20:52,016
that doesn't have to be
U.S. taxpayer money.
1609
01:20:52,018 --> 01:20:54,552
We're dealing with a country
that can really finance...
1610
01:20:54,554 --> 01:20:57,422
its own reconstruction,
and relatively soon.
1611
01:20:57,424 --> 01:20:59,992
There will always be some
uncertainty...
1612
01:20:59,994 --> 01:21:02,728
about how quickly he can
acquire nuclear weapons...
1613
01:21:02,730 --> 01:21:05,663
but we don't want the smoking
gun to be a mushroom cloud.
1614
01:21:05,665 --> 01:21:07,565
Do you think the
America people...
1615
01:21:07,567 --> 01:21:11,036
are prepared for a long,
costly, and bloody battle...
1616
01:21:11,038 --> 01:21:13,506
with significant American
casualties?
1617
01:21:13,508 --> 01:21:15,573
I don't think it's likely
to unfold that way, Tim...
1618
01:21:15,575 --> 01:21:17,676
because I really do believe we
will be greeted as liberators.
1619
01:21:17,678 --> 01:21:20,613
Six weeks after the
war had begun, the President...
1620
01:21:20,615 --> 01:21:22,881
is set to deliver a very
carefully worded speech...
1621
01:21:22,883 --> 01:21:25,484
on a carrier in the Pacific.
1622
01:21:25,486 --> 01:21:29,020
My fellow Americans,
major combat operations...
1623
01:21:29,022 --> 01:21:30,956
in Iraq have ended.
1624
01:21:30,958 --> 01:21:34,059
In the battle of Iraq,
the United States...
1625
01:21:34,061 --> 01:21:36,898
and our allies have prevailed.
1626
01:22:18,972 --> 01:22:20,975
I want to go down there.
1627
01:22:38,892 --> 01:22:41,896
They were the first to die.
1628
01:22:46,633 --> 01:22:48,770
Were you there?
1629
01:22:52,106 --> 01:22:53,508
Thank you.
1630
01:22:58,945 --> 01:23:00,681
Thank you, son.
1631
01:24:06,179 --> 01:24:07,979
Jonathan, how did it feel,
therefore...
1632
01:24:07,981 --> 01:24:11,750
to be the lone holdouts in this
pursuit of truth and fact?
1633
01:24:11,752 --> 01:24:14,118
It was very lonely and what
made it actually one...
1634
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,688
of the ironies is...
1635
01:24:15,690 --> 01:24:17,355
that every time we would write
something...
1636
01:24:17,357 --> 01:24:20,725
the White House would say
nothing, because we realized...
1637
01:24:20,727 --> 01:24:22,961
after a while that that would
have been the best...
1638
01:24:22,963 --> 01:24:25,930
advertising for our stories we
could have possibly asked for.
1639
01:24:25,932 --> 01:24:27,032
There's a problem with
journalism...
1640
01:24:27,034 --> 01:24:28,833
in Washington, which is access.
1641
01:24:28,835 --> 01:24:30,702
And The New York Times and
others had access to the top...
1642
01:24:30,704 --> 01:24:32,136
officials who were spinning
this line.
1643
01:24:32,138 --> 01:24:33,771
We talked to those people,
as well...
1644
01:24:33,773 --> 01:24:35,040
but most of our reporting,
Christiane...
1645
01:24:35,042 --> 01:24:37,042
was with intelligence,
military...
1646
01:24:37,044 --> 01:24:38,210
and diplomatic mid-level...
1647
01:24:38,212 --> 01:24:40,211
- Lower level?
- Lower level.
1648
01:24:40,213 --> 01:24:42,180
The types journalists don't
normally talk to or go after.
1649
01:24:42,182 --> 01:24:44,183
Can I just give a little
credit, also, to the man...
1650
01:24:44,185 --> 01:24:46,118
who was our boss at the time,
John Walcott.
1651
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,287
Higher levels of
civilization...
1652
01:24:48,289 --> 01:24:50,855
must depend even more
heavily...
1653
01:24:50,857 --> 01:24:54,326
on a conscientious respect for
the importance of honesty...
1654
01:24:54,328 --> 01:24:58,229
and clarity in reporting the
facts and out of stubborn...
1655
01:24:58,231 --> 01:25:03,868
concern for accuracy in
determining what the facts are.
1656
01:25:03,870 --> 01:25:08,640
We need to find some way
to cover the world so that...
1657
01:25:08,642 --> 01:25:10,943
we know what's happening
out there...
1658
01:25:10,945 --> 01:25:12,711
that we know the truth
about it...
1659
01:25:12,913 --> 01:25:17,213
so we can avoid mistakes...
1660
01:25:17,484 --> 01:25:20,284
mistakes like Iraq.
1661
01:25:20,286 --> 01:25:22,421
The intelligence was
what it was.
1662
01:25:22,423 --> 01:25:25,923
- You know, people like me couldn't make it up.
- The intelligence wasn't what it was...
1663
01:25:25,930 --> 01:25:27,930
and not everybody got it wrong.
1664
01:25:27,962 --> 01:25:30,831
Almost everybody did,
except for Knight Ridder.
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