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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,631 --> 00:00:06,341 The zombie is absolutely 2 00:00:06,382 --> 00:00:08,843 all-American horror metaphor. 3 00:00:08,885 --> 00:00:10,970 They are the monster 4 00:00:11,012 --> 00:00:13,056 of the 21st century. 5 00:00:13,097 --> 00:00:14,950 Right now it does seem like we're in the middle 6 00:00:14,974 --> 00:00:17,352 of a zombie apocalypse. 7 00:00:17,393 --> 00:00:19,479 We're getting our chance to exercise 8 00:00:19,521 --> 00:00:21,105 our most anti-social emotions. 9 00:00:21,147 --> 00:00:22,982 You know, that... 10 00:00:23,024 --> 00:00:25,401 that mob impulse that's like, "Yeah, kill them all 11 00:00:25,443 --> 00:00:26,819 and let God sort them out." 12 00:00:28,363 --> 00:00:29,864 Eventually they overwhelm you. 13 00:00:29,906 --> 00:00:31,741 They're not stopping to eat. 14 00:00:31,783 --> 00:00:33,326 Well, I mean, unless they're stopping 15 00:00:33,368 --> 00:00:35,745 - to eat one of you. - We're all gonna die. 16 00:00:35,787 --> 00:00:37,997 We all are gonna get cancer one day. 17 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:39,916 We're all gonna get sick. 18 00:00:39,958 --> 00:00:43,836 It's almost like an accelerated version of that. 19 00:00:43,878 --> 00:00:46,214 We don't want zombies 20 00:00:46,256 --> 00:00:48,132 to come and destroy all of our friends 21 00:00:48,174 --> 00:00:50,260 and family and institutions... 22 00:00:50,301 --> 00:00:52,178 but on some level, maybe we do. 23 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:55,098 Like, on some level it provides us a chance 24 00:00:55,139 --> 00:00:57,141 to just dismantle everything... 25 00:00:59,269 --> 00:01:01,104 And possibly start over. 26 00:01:03,022 --> 00:01:06,025 What are humans like when faced with the end 27 00:01:06,067 --> 00:01:08,027 of humanity? 28 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:09,529 What are they like when they're faced 29 00:01:09,571 --> 00:01:11,322 with very few choices 30 00:01:11,364 --> 00:01:14,534 in... in regards to how to survive? 31 00:01:14,576 --> 00:01:16,828 That's the horror of zombie movies. 32 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:18,705 - No! - It's the wrong impulses 33 00:01:18,746 --> 00:01:21,583 that come out of people that are far more terrifying 34 00:01:21,624 --> 00:01:22,875 than the walking dead. 35 00:01:57,035 --> 00:01:58,453 I'm Eli Roth. 36 00:02:00,288 --> 00:02:04,083 The history of horror is filled with monsters. 37 00:02:04,125 --> 00:02:05,960 Nightmare figures that tap 38 00:02:06,002 --> 00:02:08,338 into our deepest fears. 39 00:02:10,506 --> 00:02:13,009 But our fears, and our monsters, 40 00:02:13,051 --> 00:02:15,094 change with the times. 41 00:02:17,388 --> 00:02:20,016 Right now, it's the time of the zombie. 42 00:02:22,185 --> 00:02:24,771 Fast zombies, slow zombies, 43 00:02:24,812 --> 00:02:27,565 comedy zombies, teen zombies... 44 00:02:29,859 --> 00:02:31,277 Whatever their shape, 45 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,197 zombies are everywhere. 46 00:02:34,238 --> 00:02:35,698 How did we get here? 47 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,909 What set off zombie fever? 48 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,410 As we'll see, 49 00:02:39,452 --> 00:02:41,496 zombies have been around for decades. 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,712 But the debut of "The Walking Dead" 51 00:02:49,754 --> 00:02:52,173 in 2010 saw them explode 52 00:02:52,215 --> 00:02:55,093 into popular culture. 53 00:02:55,134 --> 00:02:58,096 To almost everyone's surprise, a horror series 54 00:02:58,137 --> 00:03:00,848 became the most popular show on television. 55 00:03:03,059 --> 00:03:05,186 My brother's kids... 56 00:03:05,228 --> 00:03:07,206 ten years old, five years... they watch "Walking Dead." 57 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:11,359 Kids eight years old watch "Walking Dead." 58 00:03:11,401 --> 00:03:12,944 What is it about "Walking Dead" 59 00:03:12,985 --> 00:03:15,613 that zombies have become so, almost normalized 60 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:17,407 that kids love it. 61 00:03:17,448 --> 00:03:19,218 They don't take it seriously. I think it's amazing. 62 00:03:19,242 --> 00:03:20,535 - Well... - "Walking Dead" plays 63 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:21,720 - like a family show. - It's all about 64 00:03:21,744 --> 00:03:23,496 the characters. 65 00:03:27,917 --> 00:03:30,128 You can follow this group of people 66 00:03:30,169 --> 00:03:32,547 as they struggle to survive 67 00:03:32,588 --> 00:03:35,216 week after week after week after week. 68 00:03:39,053 --> 00:03:41,013 You can see them live, you can see them die, 69 00:03:41,055 --> 00:03:43,266 you can see everything that they go through 70 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:45,893 with the zombie apocalypse set as the backdrop. 71 00:03:48,563 --> 00:03:50,898 Everybody wants to... 72 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:52,942 think that they would be able to survive 73 00:03:52,984 --> 00:03:54,235 the zombie apocalypse. 74 00:03:56,779 --> 00:03:59,282 You figure, "What would I do to survive?" 75 00:03:59,323 --> 00:04:01,868 Uh, because that is the crux of the show, 76 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:04,120 ordinary people who all of a sudden 77 00:04:04,162 --> 00:04:06,831 are thrust into an extraordinary situation. 78 00:04:06,873 --> 00:04:09,083 which always give you some of the best drama. 79 00:04:13,588 --> 00:04:15,023 Are you gonna fight for what you believe in? 80 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:16,108 Are you gonna be the type of person 81 00:04:16,132 --> 00:04:17,633 that runs away from it? 82 00:04:17,675 --> 00:04:20,303 You know, there's no status and... and fame, 83 00:04:20,344 --> 00:04:22,013 and money, and uh, 84 00:04:22,054 --> 00:04:24,766 there's none of that bull. 85 00:04:24,807 --> 00:04:27,393 The apocalyptic simulation is really an interesting 86 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:29,437 sociological experiment about, you know, 87 00:04:29,479 --> 00:04:31,123 who do people become, and who would I become, 88 00:04:31,147 --> 00:04:33,566 and what would be okay if the rules weren't 89 00:04:33,608 --> 00:04:35,818 the same anymore? 90 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:37,236 I want to be a Michonne... 91 00:04:38,571 --> 00:04:41,199 But I'm probably more of, um... 92 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,826 I don't know, a Eugene. 93 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:46,829 You got a name, ass? 94 00:04:46,871 --> 00:04:48,915 Eugene. 95 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:52,168 They're coming to get you, Barbara. 96 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:54,587 Stop it! You're acting like a child. 97 00:04:54,629 --> 00:04:56,798 They're coming for you. 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,175 Look, there comes one of them now. 99 00:04:59,217 --> 00:05:02,136 Without George Romero and "Night of the Living Dead," 100 00:05:02,178 --> 00:05:04,639 there would be no "Walking Dead." 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,225 "Night of the Living Dead" laid the template 102 00:05:07,266 --> 00:05:10,061 for every zombie survival story that followed. 103 00:05:10,102 --> 00:05:11,687 It's a simple plot... 104 00:05:11,729 --> 00:05:13,981 six people trapped in a farmhouse 105 00:05:14,023 --> 00:05:16,818 surrounded by the flesh-eating undead... 106 00:05:16,859 --> 00:05:19,612 but it changed everything. 107 00:05:19,654 --> 00:05:21,697 You got to see the boundary pushed 108 00:05:21,739 --> 00:05:24,492 going from the 1950s creatures... 109 00:05:24,534 --> 00:05:27,161 the man in the rubber suit... to like, graphic viscera. 110 00:05:27,203 --> 00:05:28,680 - Mm-hmm. - What was it like seeing it 111 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:30,289 pushed farther and farther? 112 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:32,542 I can remember just 113 00:05:32,583 --> 00:05:34,293 sort of wandering into a screening 114 00:05:34,335 --> 00:05:35,962 of "Night of the Living Dead." 115 00:05:36,003 --> 00:05:38,047 The whole place was full of kids... it was like 116 00:05:38,089 --> 00:05:40,967 a Saturday matinee... and they're all, you know, 117 00:05:41,008 --> 00:05:42,969 yelling and grab-assing around and throwing 118 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:45,513 their popcorn boxes, and that thing got going 119 00:05:45,555 --> 00:05:48,683 and they just fell entirely silent. 120 00:05:50,268 --> 00:05:52,979 And I was scared, too. 121 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,898 The first time that you see something like that, 122 00:05:55,940 --> 00:05:58,734 you're not prepared for what you're looking at. 123 00:06:00,236 --> 00:06:03,197 George Romero really creates the rules. 124 00:06:03,239 --> 00:06:05,133 I mean, the whole thing of, like, if you get bit, 125 00:06:05,157 --> 00:06:06,701 - you turned into one... - Yeah. 126 00:06:06,742 --> 00:06:08,494 Shoot them in the head... 127 00:06:09,954 --> 00:06:11,581 - That didn't exist before. - Those rules 128 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:14,959 for the modern-day zombie were created 50 years ago. 129 00:06:15,001 --> 00:06:16,711 - By George Romero. - If I were surrounded 130 00:06:16,752 --> 00:06:18,522 by six or eight of these things, would I stand 131 00:06:18,546 --> 00:06:20,440 - a chance with them? - Well, there's no problem. 132 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:22,024 If you had a gun, shoot 'em in the head. 133 00:06:22,049 --> 00:06:23,593 That's a sure way to kill 'em. 134 00:06:23,634 --> 00:06:25,469 If you don't, get yourself a club or a torch. 135 00:06:25,511 --> 00:06:27,597 Beat 'em or burn 'em. They go up pretty easy. 136 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:31,893 It almost feels like the zombie movie... 137 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:34,020 there's like a quantum leap that happens 138 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:35,897 where there are different phases. 139 00:06:35,938 --> 00:06:38,566 Like the 1930s and '40s, it was the... 140 00:06:38,608 --> 00:06:40,693 "I Walked With a Zombie." It was "White Zombie." 141 00:06:40,735 --> 00:06:42,278 It was the hypnotist zombie. 142 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,155 It was a mad scientist on an island 143 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:46,490 that has found a way to raise the dead 144 00:06:46,491 --> 00:06:48,577 - and enslave them. - A lot of zombie films 145 00:06:48,618 --> 00:06:51,162 were about people who had been just stripped 146 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:54,165 of their identity and were slaves, almost. 147 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:56,250 You know, they could be workers, or they could just 148 00:06:56,292 --> 00:06:58,478 sort of shamble and look scary, but they weren't attacking 149 00:06:58,502 --> 00:07:00,463 and biting and killing like they did 150 00:07:00,504 --> 00:07:02,214 in "Night of the Living Dead." 151 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:03,591 Baby... 152 00:07:03,633 --> 00:07:05,843 Mean, there were things 153 00:07:05,885 --> 00:07:08,888 that were so transgressive in that movie. 154 00:07:13,351 --> 00:07:14,828 The little girl stabs her mother to death. 155 00:07:14,852 --> 00:07:16,854 The little kid killing her mom, that had... 156 00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:18,481 no one had ever seen anything like that. 157 00:07:18,522 --> 00:07:20,500 The first time you see it, you're just horrified. 158 00:07:20,524 --> 00:07:22,026 You can't believe what you're seeing. 159 00:07:26,364 --> 00:07:28,199 "Night of the Living Dead" was much more 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,242 of a claustrophobic nightmare kind of experience, 161 00:07:30,284 --> 00:07:32,662 "Night of the Living Dead" is also, uh, 162 00:07:32,703 --> 00:07:34,705 somewhat facetious, and it's also... 163 00:07:34,747 --> 00:07:38,042 it has its sociopolitical allegory. 164 00:07:38,084 --> 00:07:39,811 What's important about "Night of the Living Dead" 165 00:07:39,835 --> 00:07:41,355 is the fact that the travails of the people 166 00:07:41,379 --> 00:07:43,297 locked in that house are really a microcosm 167 00:07:43,339 --> 00:07:45,174 of what's going on in American society 168 00:07:45,216 --> 00:07:48,010 The tumult of the late 1960s 169 00:07:48,052 --> 00:07:51,347 is reflected in the fear and the... the violence 170 00:07:51,389 --> 00:07:53,766 that... that occur in and around that house. 171 00:07:53,808 --> 00:07:57,061 That movie's revolutionary in many, many ways 172 00:07:57,103 --> 00:07:59,647 and had profound impact... 173 00:07:59,689 --> 00:08:01,732 the fact it had a black lead... 174 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:07,405 Which George always said was not deliberate. 175 00:08:07,446 --> 00:08:09,699 It was that Duane was the best actor. 176 00:08:09,740 --> 00:08:11,510 I don't believe him. I think it was deliberate. 177 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:12,827 With all of us working, 178 00:08:12,868 --> 00:08:14,137 we can fix this place up in no time. 179 00:08:14,161 --> 00:08:15,913 We have everything we need up here. 180 00:08:15,955 --> 00:08:18,499 We can take all that stuff downstairs with us. 181 00:08:18,541 --> 00:08:20,126 Man, you're really crazy, you know that? 182 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,961 Let's say you're a... a white viewer 183 00:08:22,003 --> 00:08:24,630 in the late 1960s... 184 00:08:24,672 --> 00:08:26,632 who has a few prejudices, say, 185 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:28,801 and is a little bit worried that the world is ending 186 00:08:28,843 --> 00:08:30,845 because of all of the, uh, racial legislation 187 00:08:30,886 --> 00:08:32,555 of the '60s... The Voting Rights Act, 188 00:08:32,596 --> 00:08:34,890 The Civil Rights Act... and here's this zombie film 189 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:36,892 where the dead are coming back to life 190 00:08:36,934 --> 00:08:38,602 and a black man is in charge. 191 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:40,521 I don't want anyone's life on my hands. 192 00:08:40,563 --> 00:08:42,541 - Is there anything I can do? - I don't wanna hear any more 193 00:08:42,565 --> 00:08:44,025 from you, mister. 194 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:45,860 If you stay up here, you take orders from me. 195 00:08:45,901 --> 00:08:47,820 I will contend that that might have been 196 00:08:47,862 --> 00:08:50,656 as frightening to some viewers as the child eating her mother 197 00:08:50,698 --> 00:08:52,533 in the basement. 198 00:08:55,745 --> 00:08:59,248 What we get is potentially something hopeful, you know, 199 00:08:59,290 --> 00:09:01,000 with the African-American protagonist... 200 00:09:01,042 --> 00:09:03,961 like maybe some new direction socially... 201 00:09:04,003 --> 00:09:07,423 but instead it just turns into vigilante justice 202 00:09:07,465 --> 00:09:12,803 represented by a white lynch mob. 203 00:09:12,845 --> 00:09:14,764 You can imagine the... the shock 204 00:09:14,805 --> 00:09:17,516 that audiences must have felt to... to be coaxed 205 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:20,019 into identifying with a black man 206 00:09:20,061 --> 00:09:21,937 only to have him shot and then pitchforked 207 00:09:21,979 --> 00:09:24,023 onto a pile of burning bodies at the end. 208 00:09:24,065 --> 00:09:26,108 That's a slap. 209 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:28,778 That's a direct slap to any audience, 210 00:09:28,819 --> 00:09:31,655 right wing or left wing. 211 00:09:31,697 --> 00:09:33,157 "The Night of the Living Dead" 212 00:09:33,199 --> 00:09:34,992 does not end on any kind of triumph. 213 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:37,078 Your hero is shot by police. 214 00:09:37,119 --> 00:09:40,247 It's the most upsetting ending in cinema. 215 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:42,708 And then that has continued 216 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,710 through horror cinema of actually... 217 00:09:44,752 --> 00:09:47,046 It doesn't always have a happy ending. 218 00:09:51,842 --> 00:09:54,302 I think that's the joy of horror cinema, 219 00:09:54,303 --> 00:09:55,823 is that it can, like, affect you in lots 220 00:09:55,846 --> 00:09:58,224 - of different ways. - If George Romero 221 00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:00,267 had only made "Night of the Living Dead," 222 00:10:00,309 --> 00:10:02,144 he would still be a legend... 223 00:10:02,186 --> 00:10:04,855 But he didn't stop. 224 00:10:04,897 --> 00:10:06,857 "Night of the Living Dead" and its sequels 225 00:10:06,899 --> 00:10:09,235 changed the course of film history. 226 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:10,945 and inspired the best 227 00:10:10,986 --> 00:10:12,738 the horror genre has to offer. 228 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:14,907 He was such a big influence 229 00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:16,534 on "Shaun of the Dead." 230 00:10:16,575 --> 00:10:19,411 We liked this idea of our film taking place 231 00:10:19,453 --> 00:10:21,205 within George Romero's universe. 232 00:10:23,582 --> 00:10:25,251 "Shaun of the Dead" 233 00:10:25,292 --> 00:10:27,461 was so well done that it opened the floodgates 234 00:10:27,503 --> 00:10:29,272 to, like, everybody to try and make a zombie movie. 235 00:10:34,135 --> 00:10:36,095 Today, zombie movies 236 00:10:36,137 --> 00:10:37,930 and TV shows are everywhere. 237 00:10:37,972 --> 00:10:39,557 but not so long ago, 238 00:10:39,598 --> 00:10:42,560 they had virtually disappeared. 239 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:44,436 Edgar Wright's "Shaun of the Dead" 240 00:10:44,478 --> 00:10:46,856 helped bring them back bigger than ever. 241 00:10:54,113 --> 00:10:56,049 When we thought up the idea for "Shaun of the Dead," 242 00:10:56,073 --> 00:10:58,742 one of the inspirations for it is because there hadn't been 243 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:00,828 a zombie film for, like, 15 years. 244 00:11:03,747 --> 00:11:05,749 We always had this theory that, like, uh, 245 00:11:05,791 --> 00:11:08,502 John Landis' video for "Thriller" 246 00:11:08,544 --> 00:11:11,088 sort of killed off zombies for the second half 247 00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:12,756 of the '80s and early '90s. 248 00:11:14,925 --> 00:11:16,969 So I think what happened was, 249 00:11:17,011 --> 00:11:18,888 all of a sudden the zombie genre... 250 00:11:18,929 --> 00:11:21,724 which traditionally had probably sort of died out... 251 00:11:21,765 --> 00:11:23,184 - Yeah. - A little bit... 252 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:24,905 and then all of a sudden you have all these 253 00:11:24,935 --> 00:11:26,204 zombie video games and they're like, ", 254 00:11:26,228 --> 00:11:29,440 man, people love shooting zombies." 255 00:11:29,481 --> 00:11:31,984 It was around, like, the late 1990s 256 00:11:32,026 --> 00:11:34,695 when "Resident Evil" came out... the game. 257 00:11:36,113 --> 00:11:38,157 So people started 258 00:11:38,199 --> 00:11:40,284 to take an interest in the genre again. 259 00:11:43,621 --> 00:11:46,415 Every now and then, we see a movie 260 00:11:46,457 --> 00:11:48,667 that is supposedly horror... 261 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:51,921 but yet uses social commentary brilliantly, 262 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:55,549 and the best example is "Shaun of the Dead." 263 00:11:58,594 --> 00:12:00,346 You want to know where Britain was 264 00:12:00,387 --> 00:12:02,264 at that time, you look at "Shaun of the Dead." 265 00:12:04,099 --> 00:12:06,060 In the '90s and the dawn of the new century, 266 00:12:06,101 --> 00:12:08,520 we were in a new phase in Britain... 267 00:12:08,562 --> 00:12:11,190 and a whole new generation of Britons were asking: 268 00:12:11,232 --> 00:12:12,441 "What's next?" 269 00:12:12,483 --> 00:12:14,652 And they were a little lost. 270 00:12:16,278 --> 00:12:18,322 Hey, man, listen, um... oh, top left. 271 00:12:18,364 --> 00:12:20,115 - Uh-huh. - I was gonna say... 272 00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:21,575 - reload. - I'm on it. 273 00:12:21,617 --> 00:12:23,869 And it was brilliant. 274 00:12:25,371 --> 00:12:27,206 What I love about "Shaun of the Dead" 275 00:12:27,248 --> 00:12:30,793 is they're not making fun of... 276 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,253 zombie movies, 277 00:12:32,294 --> 00:12:34,129 they're making a funny zombie movie. 278 00:12:34,171 --> 00:12:36,548 I'm not gonna say, "If you love her, let her go," 279 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:38,801 and I'm not gonna bombard you with clichés. 280 00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:40,886 But what I will say is this... 281 00:12:43,055 --> 00:12:44,306 It's not the end of the world. 282 00:12:48,018 --> 00:12:50,229 And they play on all the tropes... 283 00:12:50,271 --> 00:12:52,356 Sorry, we're closed. 284 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:55,943 I'd been playing "Resident Evil 3," 285 00:12:55,985 --> 00:12:57,987 like, all night. 286 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:00,239 My girlfriend at the time had gone away... 287 00:13:02,116 --> 00:13:04,243 And I promised her I wouldn't play video games 288 00:13:04,285 --> 00:13:06,912 all weekend, and I did exactly that. 289 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:09,164 I remember, vividly, 290 00:13:09,206 --> 00:13:11,208 playing it until the sun came up. 291 00:13:18,382 --> 00:13:19,776 And then walking across the street 292 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,635 to the news agent to get some milk 293 00:13:21,677 --> 00:13:23,554 to make some tea... 294 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:26,223 and I walked across the street, and it was completely empty 295 00:13:26,265 --> 00:13:27,933 on a Sunday morning. 296 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:29,775 And the shop was the only thing that was open, 297 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:31,729 and in that moment, I had a thought of thinking, 298 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:33,957 "What would it be like if if zombies were here right now, 299 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,607 and what would I do?" 300 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:37,484 Because we don't really have guns in the UK, 301 00:13:37,526 --> 00:13:40,029 How would I defend myself? 302 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:41,739 It's just that little thought 303 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:44,241 really sort of started to inspire the sequence 304 00:13:44,283 --> 00:13:46,744 where Shaun walks 305 00:13:46,785 --> 00:13:49,121 to the store and back hungover. 306 00:13:49,163 --> 00:13:51,040 So the zombie apocalypse has started, 307 00:13:51,081 --> 00:13:53,167 but he's still unaware of it. 308 00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,962 But he does this walk... it's a long, 309 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:58,724 steady cam shot... and he goes into the shop 310 00:13:58,756 --> 00:14:00,549 and he doesn't notice... 311 00:14:00,591 --> 00:14:02,259 little things. 312 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:08,140 The bloody handprints on the wall, 313 00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:10,059 and he's walking away from the refrigerator 314 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,853 and he just slips in blood. 315 00:14:14,438 --> 00:14:17,358 It's so subtle, but it's... 316 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:19,443 It's such a great moment 317 00:14:19,485 --> 00:14:21,612 because you know... you as the audience 318 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:23,614 know what's coming... his character doesn't 319 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:27,368 know it yet, and it's... he... he's still out of it. 320 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:29,536 - Nelson. - It's such a simple moment 321 00:14:29,578 --> 00:14:32,706 but it's one of my favorite moments in the movie. 322 00:14:32,748 --> 00:14:34,875 It's wonderful, the way they show 323 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,752 the collapse of society. 324 00:14:38,212 --> 00:14:40,839 Zombies become a symbol of anarchy, 325 00:14:40,881 --> 00:14:43,801 and the collapse of the system, 326 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:45,219 and all that protects us. 327 00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:48,138 Top left! 328 00:14:50,516 --> 00:14:51,600 - Ah! - Reload. 329 00:14:51,642 --> 00:14:53,310 I'm on it. 330 00:14:53,352 --> 00:14:55,979 We wanted to stay true to the spirit 331 00:14:56,021 --> 00:14:57,665 of "Night of the Living Dead" and "Dawn of the Dead." 332 00:14:59,358 --> 00:15:01,902 The film is like a valentine to George Romero 333 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:03,046 because we love those movies. 334 00:15:03,070 --> 00:15:04,947 We're, like, sharing our deep, 335 00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:07,908 deep love for the subject. 336 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,786 Right down to its title, "Shaun of the Dead" 337 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:13,372 is a tribute to what any horror fan will tell you 338 00:15:13,414 --> 00:15:16,583 is the greatest zombie film of all time. 339 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:18,961 There's no greater zombie movie 340 00:15:19,002 --> 00:15:20,671 than "Dawn of the Dead." 341 00:15:20,712 --> 00:15:23,257 I think "Dawn of the Dead" is a real masterpiece. 342 00:15:23,298 --> 00:15:25,259 It's that rare kind of, like, nightmare world 343 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,970 which you actually wouldn't... I mean, maybe this is just me, 344 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,430 but you wouldn't mind being in it. 345 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:37,646 - No! No! - George Romero's 346 00:15:37,688 --> 00:15:40,357 "Night of the Living Dead" created the modern zombie. 347 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:42,609 That was a hard act to follow, 348 00:15:42,651 --> 00:15:44,987 but the director topped it with his sequel, 349 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:46,572 "Dawn of the Dead." 350 00:15:50,534 --> 00:15:52,369 "Dawn of the Dead" was a potent mixture 351 00:15:52,411 --> 00:15:53,829 of horror, satire, 352 00:15:53,871 --> 00:15:55,831 and outrageous special effects. 353 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:01,545 It's, uh, basically a continuation of the... 354 00:16:01,587 --> 00:16:02,981 of "Night of the Living Dead," where zombies are 355 00:16:03,005 --> 00:16:04,840 taking over the world. 356 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:07,885 This was the first depiction 357 00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:10,971 of a full-scale zombie apocalypse, 358 00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:13,432 a nightmare vision of social collapse 359 00:16:13,474 --> 00:16:15,476 that became the template for virtually 360 00:16:15,517 --> 00:16:19,563 every end-of-the-world story we see today. 361 00:16:19,605 --> 00:16:22,232 Once again, Romero used horror 362 00:16:22,274 --> 00:16:24,526 to comment on American values. 363 00:16:24,568 --> 00:16:28,155 He is masterfully executing 364 00:16:28,197 --> 00:16:30,991 all of those horror elements 365 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,951 in a way that brings it 366 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:36,830 right to a social justice scenario... 367 00:16:36,872 --> 00:16:39,124 Martinez! 368 00:16:39,166 --> 00:16:40,626 You've been watching! 369 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,295 You know we've got this building surrounded! 370 00:16:43,337 --> 00:16:48,091 Particularly that opening when in the ghettos, 371 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,719 all of the poor are keeping their loved ones 372 00:16:50,761 --> 00:16:53,555 hidden away from the rest of the world, 373 00:16:53,597 --> 00:16:55,641 because they know that they will kill them. 374 00:16:55,682 --> 00:16:58,810 People in this project are your responsibility. 375 00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:01,522 In the first 20 minutes, there's a SWAT team 376 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:03,023 - raiding a house... - Yeah. 377 00:17:03,065 --> 00:17:04,608 And one of the police officers 378 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:06,443 is unbelievably racist. 379 00:17:06,485 --> 00:17:08,338 Yeah, come on, Martinez. Show your greasy little 380 00:17:08,362 --> 00:17:10,364 Puerto Rican ass so I can blow it right off. 381 00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:11,865 And I was like, 382 00:17:11,907 --> 00:17:14,159 "Why is this guy concerned with racism?" 383 00:17:14,201 --> 00:17:15,827 Like, there's zombies in the building. 384 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,412 It was unbelievable. 385 00:17:17,454 --> 00:17:19,098 I was like, "Aren't there bigger problems?" 386 00:17:19,122 --> 00:17:20,541 Let's go, let's go! 387 00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:26,755 That blew my mind as a kid 388 00:17:26,797 --> 00:17:29,341 because I realized I was watching 389 00:17:29,383 --> 00:17:31,802 a political story 390 00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:34,012 about the race 391 00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:35,681 and class system in America. 392 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:39,351 After showing society crumbling, 393 00:17:39,393 --> 00:17:42,646 the film shifts focus to a small group of survivors 394 00:17:42,688 --> 00:17:45,857 who take refuge in a suburban shopping mall. 395 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:47,734 I think the great thing about zombies 396 00:17:47,776 --> 00:17:50,237 is they are like a catch-all metaphor 397 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,365 of the world's ills, and I think George Romero 398 00:17:53,407 --> 00:17:55,450 doesn't really get enough credit as a satirist 399 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:57,202 as well as a horror film maker. 400 00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:58,829 Come on! 401 00:17:58,870 --> 00:18:00,539 "Dawn of the Dead" being the most 402 00:18:00,581 --> 00:18:03,041 kind of savage statement about the state of consumerism 403 00:18:03,083 --> 00:18:04,751 in the late '70s. 404 00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:08,589 The idea of the mindless hordes 405 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,382 flock to the big fancy shopping mall... 406 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,344 That was very pointed and very funny. 407 00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,888 What are they doing? Why do they come here? 408 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,765 Some kind of instinct. 409 00:18:18,807 --> 00:18:21,560 Memory of what they used to do. 410 00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:23,979 This was an important place in their lives. 411 00:18:24,021 --> 00:18:26,106 You can't watch that movie and not become aware 412 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:28,775 of the fact that this is a story about 413 00:18:28,817 --> 00:18:31,028 what humans really are: 414 00:18:31,069 --> 00:18:33,405 grasping, vampiric creatures 415 00:18:33,447 --> 00:18:35,574 that kind of return endlessly to their old habits 416 00:18:35,616 --> 00:18:38,076 because it's what they're taught. 417 00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:39,703 I think "Dawn of the Dead" 418 00:18:39,745 --> 00:18:42,122 should be sold in a box set with "Easy Rider." 419 00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:43,915 It should be called "The Baby Boomers: 420 00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:46,460 The Beginning and the End." 421 00:18:46,501 --> 00:18:49,671 Romero has managed to distill... 422 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:53,967 The worst of every generation into all of his movies. 423 00:18:54,009 --> 00:18:56,553 You see the baby boomers 424 00:18:56,595 --> 00:18:58,263 losing their souls. 425 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:00,474 What have we done to ourselves? 426 00:19:00,515 --> 00:19:02,142 Because what Romero did 427 00:19:02,184 --> 00:19:04,853 was channel his outrage 428 00:19:04,895 --> 00:19:07,481 at his generation's ultimate surrender 429 00:19:07,522 --> 00:19:09,232 of all their ideals 430 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,026 - and he put it in a movie. - So, I mean, 431 00:19:11,068 --> 00:19:13,487 if you were gonna go out and do a talky little, uh, drama 432 00:19:13,528 --> 00:19:16,156 to try to criticize the consumer society 433 00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:17,824 that we have here, you couldn't make 434 00:19:17,866 --> 00:19:19,826 - $30 million, you know? - That's for sure. 435 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,870 So, terrific. You get a couple of jabs in 436 00:19:21,912 --> 00:19:23,914 while you're having fun with the rollercoaster ride 437 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,291 which really is the surface. 438 00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:31,046 Romero was a man with a message, 439 00:19:31,088 --> 00:19:33,382 but his gleeful embrace of gore 440 00:19:33,423 --> 00:19:35,425 made him a horror favorite. 441 00:19:35,467 --> 00:19:37,969 "Dawn of the Dead," I had never seen that level 442 00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:39,221 of a body count in a movie. 443 00:19:48,271 --> 00:19:50,857 You're, like, watching like, "Who made this?" 444 00:19:50,899 --> 00:19:52,609 - Yeah. - Like, a maniac? 445 00:19:54,778 --> 00:19:57,698 But normally, one movie, there'd be one kill 446 00:19:57,739 --> 00:19:59,366 that was amazing, and it was like 447 00:19:59,408 --> 00:20:01,618 every 30 seconds, each kill was different. 448 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,579 - That helicopter blade... - Yeah. 449 00:20:04,621 --> 00:20:06,265 - Pulling it off the head... - The guy with 450 00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:07,892 - the giant forehead. - Which... which if you were... 451 00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,556 - Exactly. - By the way, when you're a kid 452 00:20:09,584 --> 00:20:11,044 you never see that coming. 453 00:20:11,086 --> 00:20:13,296 You see he staggers out and his head... 454 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:16,800 You never put two and two together. 455 00:20:16,842 --> 00:20:18,319 Now you look at it and go, "Oh, of course, he's gonna 456 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,429 get his head cut off." 457 00:20:21,346 --> 00:20:23,890 Really accomplished horror directors knew 458 00:20:23,932 --> 00:20:26,476 having Tom Savini doing the make-up special effects 459 00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:28,520 that it was gonna elevate that film. 460 00:20:28,562 --> 00:20:31,732 and give them a wider audience than they ever anticipated. 461 00:20:31,773 --> 00:20:33,400 Well, it was Halloween every day. 462 00:20:33,442 --> 00:20:34,961 We did that for three months in a shopping mall. 463 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,864 80% of the effects in that were stuff that 464 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,490 we came up with. 465 00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:42,093 We'd go to George and say, "Hey, how about if we drive 466 00:20:42,117 --> 00:20:43,928 a screwdriver through... through the zombies, here." 467 00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,079 And he'd go, "Okay." 468 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:48,081 So then two hours later we're making 469 00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,208 retractable screwdrivers and, you know, 470 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:52,252 making it bleed inside a zombie's ear. 471 00:20:53,879 --> 00:20:56,173 But the scene that makes you like, wonder, 472 00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:57,924 "Oh, wow... 473 00:20:57,966 --> 00:20:59,384 can I even handle this?" 474 00:20:59,426 --> 00:21:01,887 Is when the zombie in the project... 475 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:04,139 when, uh, his wife... 476 00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:06,391 He's still alive, comes to her and... 477 00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:07,433 and embraces him. 478 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,020 "My baby, my baby." 479 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,854 And then she... he just bites... 480 00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:13,064 just a chunk out of her shoulder. 481 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,484 Carlito... 482 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,904 It just looks real. 483 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,447 It just... it just... 484 00:21:20,489 --> 00:21:21,740 you buy it. 485 00:21:21,782 --> 00:21:23,992 If humans had 486 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:27,078 shark-like mouths, that's probably the effect 487 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,663 of what would happen 488 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,665 if a sharky human bit you. 489 00:21:33,293 --> 00:21:34,604 It's just an effect we had never seen before, 490 00:21:34,628 --> 00:21:36,087 and it draws a line in the sand. 491 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:37,672 "Am I ready for the rest of this?" 492 00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:42,052 George Romero's vision was so influential 493 00:21:42,093 --> 00:21:44,721 that for decades, most screen zombies 494 00:21:44,763 --> 00:21:47,724 were slow-moving ghouls. 495 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,726 But in 2002, 496 00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:52,062 Danny Boyle's "28 Days Later" 497 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,605 gave us a zombie 498 00:21:53,647 --> 00:21:55,941 for the fast-moving 21st century 499 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:57,901 and set off a controversy 500 00:21:57,943 --> 00:21:59,945 that rages to this day. 501 00:21:59,986 --> 00:22:02,322 - I'm a slow zombie guy. - I like fast zombies. 502 00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:05,116 I'm a card-carrying slow zombie fan. 503 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:14,125 Imagine waking up in a world ravaged by a disease 504 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:16,211 that turns ordinary people 505 00:22:16,253 --> 00:22:18,421 into mindless predators driven to kill. 506 00:22:20,257 --> 00:22:22,968 This is the premise of "28 Days Later," 507 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,971 director Danny Boyle's groundbreaking reinvention 508 00:22:26,012 --> 00:22:27,055 of the zombie film. 509 00:22:32,894 --> 00:22:35,522 Fight! Fight! 510 00:22:35,564 --> 00:22:37,107 "28 Days Later" 511 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:40,068 is a perfect horror movie 512 00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:42,863 because it's based on a premise 513 00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:44,906 you can completely believe. 514 00:22:44,948 --> 00:22:46,700 I don't know what it's like 515 00:22:46,741 --> 00:22:48,618 to be bitten by a vampire. 516 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:50,096 I don't know what it's like to be threatened 517 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:51,872 by a werewolf. 518 00:22:53,373 --> 00:22:55,667 But I can imagine what it's like... 519 00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:58,753 to have a plague spread like wildfire 520 00:22:58,795 --> 00:23:01,381 because it's just too close 521 00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:03,884 to the headlines of today's news. 522 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,387 It could happen. 523 00:23:08,805 --> 00:23:10,557 "28 Days Later" came out 524 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,101 a year after 9/11, and it includes 525 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:15,145 these really haunting scenes 526 00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:17,397 of a deserted London... 527 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:23,904 Missing persons flyers pasted to bulletin boards 528 00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:26,197 like we saw post 9/11... 529 00:23:28,408 --> 00:23:31,077 It also was able to, uh, 530 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,997 capitalize on a lot of the... the anxieties 531 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,916 and fears of the time. 532 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,419 SARS and anthrax 533 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:42,756 and Mad Cow's Disease, bird flues... 534 00:23:42,797 --> 00:23:44,799 Father... 535 00:23:44,841 --> 00:23:47,218 Also, Danny Boyle 536 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:48,803 was commenting on, uh, 537 00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:51,139 the rage that he saw in society. 538 00:23:51,181 --> 00:23:53,308 Road rage, people fighting on line 539 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:54,684 in the supermarkets... 540 00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,564 He envisioned a zombie story that took advantage 541 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,317 of this psychological virus 542 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,611 that could be unleashed and have, like, 543 00:24:04,653 --> 00:24:06,780 a zombie effect on people. 544 00:24:09,199 --> 00:24:10,951 There was one big difference 545 00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:13,328 between George Romero's' zombies and the infected 546 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,580 in "28 Days Later": 547 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,290 these zombies were fast. 548 00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:20,627 People talked about sort of the next quantum leap 549 00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:22,796 in zombie movies... 550 00:24:23,838 --> 00:24:26,675 As "28 Days Later" 'cause it had running zombies. 551 00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:28,468 Even though there were running infected 552 00:24:28,510 --> 00:24:30,595 in Umberto Lenzi's "Nightmare City" from 1980. 553 00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:37,852 I'm a slow zombie guy. 554 00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:39,646 Not that I don't like 555 00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,690 - a good fast zombie movie. - Somebody! 556 00:24:41,731 --> 00:24:43,525 Uh, I loved "28 Days Later." 557 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,026 Yes, I know. 558 00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:47,487 They're not technically dead. 559 00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:49,197 They are rage virus. 560 00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:51,074 I get that. 561 00:24:52,993 --> 00:24:55,328 If I can make a criticism of running zombies, it's this: 562 00:24:55,370 --> 00:24:56,997 It's that running zombies generally... 563 00:24:57,038 --> 00:24:58,665 there's kind of like a fitness level. 564 00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,709 If you look at the zombies in "28 Days Later," 565 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:03,253 they're nearly always, like, sort of fit. 566 00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,131 You know, like they're in like a sneakers commercial. 567 00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:11,594 When you increase the speed, the people that lose out 568 00:25:11,636 --> 00:25:14,097 are the old zombies, and the overweight zombies, 569 00:25:14,139 --> 00:25:16,391 and the little kid zombies, and I would rather have 570 00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:18,476 a more inclusive range of zombies. 571 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:23,815 Zombies that are slow are infinitely more terrifying. 572 00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:25,209 It's the difference between getting shot 573 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:27,819 and getting cancer. 574 00:25:27,861 --> 00:25:30,905 You get killed by, say, a fast zombie 575 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:34,325 in the "World War Z" movie or "28 Days Later," 576 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,036 you're dead before you know it. 577 00:25:36,077 --> 00:25:37,954 Happens too fast. 578 00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:41,666 But the slow zombie... 579 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,960 the zombie that gives you time to think... 580 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:47,338 allows you to visualize your own death... 581 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,303 And that is one of the darker elements 582 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,305 of the human mind. 583 00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:56,890 Fast or slow... 584 00:25:56,931 --> 00:25:58,767 Zombies are usually created 585 00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:01,728 by accidental radiation leaks or rogue viruses. 586 00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:05,690 But there is another kind of zombie: 587 00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:08,193 The deliberately reanimated corpse, 588 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,903 like Frankenstein's monster. 589 00:26:09,944 --> 00:26:12,030 - Alive! - Created by Mary Shelley 590 00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:15,033 in 1818, Frankenstein's monster 591 00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:17,827 is the most famous member of the walking dead. 592 00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:19,579 Frankenstein's monster 593 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:21,581 is a zombie for sure. 594 00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:23,291 In the novel, he's just a... 595 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:26,920 a zombie that can talk way too much. 596 00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:28,630 As a kid, I really felt connected 597 00:26:28,671 --> 00:26:30,256 to Frankenstein's monster, not so much 598 00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:31,591 to Frankenstein himself. 599 00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:33,384 I think that goes for a lot 600 00:26:33,426 --> 00:26:35,345 of those original horror classics. 601 00:26:35,386 --> 00:26:37,472 Those characters are sort of stand-ins 602 00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:40,141 for people that are on the fringe of society 603 00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,893 or castaways... cast outs. 604 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,397 Boris Karloff's Frankenstein 605 00:26:46,439 --> 00:26:48,233 is still the definitive version 606 00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,818 of this monster. 607 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,528 Its direct descendant 608 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:54,322 is "H.P. Lovecraft's Re-Animator." 609 00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:56,241 With "Re-Animator," 610 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:59,202 director Stuart Gordon reimagined the zombie film 611 00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:01,955 as a wildly transgressive horror comedy. 612 00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:06,000 I remember I went to a... like a... a bunch of kids 613 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,062 were hanging out at a house like have... having a party 614 00:27:08,086 --> 00:27:09,754 and they watched "Breakfast Club," 615 00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:12,423 and I was never... I had never been so bored in a movie. 616 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,592 I was just, like, waiting for something to happen. 617 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:16,278 - Somebody gets the hot potato. - Something. 618 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,822 And I was like, "I have a much better movie." 619 00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,115 And I put on "Re-Animator..." 620 00:27:19,139 --> 00:27:20,407 And the whole party cleared out. 621 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:27,313 Well, the film is about medical students 622 00:27:27,355 --> 00:27:29,357 who find a way to bring the dead back to life. 623 00:27:29,399 --> 00:27:31,192 Particularly, there's this one genius, 624 00:27:31,234 --> 00:27:34,404 Herbert West... he's developed a serum which, 625 00:27:34,445 --> 00:27:37,574 when it's injected into a dead body, revives it. 626 00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:43,121 But the dead are never very grateful. 627 00:27:45,456 --> 00:27:48,710 What was great about Stuart Gordon's take on it... 628 00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:50,670 he put a really interesting sense of humor 629 00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:52,213 in the whole thing. 630 00:27:53,882 --> 00:27:56,134 'Cause you can look 631 00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:57,778 - at "Re-Animator" as a comedy. - You'll never get credit 632 00:27:57,802 --> 00:27:59,220 for my discovery. 633 00:27:59,262 --> 00:28:00,698 Who's going to believe a talking head? 634 00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:02,432 Get a job in a sideshow. 635 00:28:02,473 --> 00:28:04,601 "Re-Animator" was like nothing 636 00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:07,478 I had seen before... like nothing anyone 637 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,982 had seen before... and the audacity of it 638 00:28:11,024 --> 00:28:13,067 is what makes it so powerful. 639 00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:20,909 Boy, that's a sick picture. 640 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,994 Really transgressive. 641 00:28:23,036 --> 00:28:25,788 Got a lot of crawling hands and heads rolling around 642 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:28,750 like bowling balls. 643 00:28:28,791 --> 00:28:30,793 You should not be censoring yourself. 644 00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:33,814 You know, they'll be doing everything they can 645 00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:34,964 to censor you. 646 00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,591 You should not give them an inch. 647 00:28:40,261 --> 00:28:42,281 "Re-Animator's" fun. I don't know what it's about, 648 00:28:42,305 --> 00:28:44,015 like, that... I don't know that it's about 649 00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:46,351 any big ideas whatsoever, 650 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:48,436 except that it would be fun to keep heads alive 651 00:28:48,478 --> 00:28:50,980 - in a basket. - It's about conquering death. 652 00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:53,274 That's really what it's about. 653 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:57,153 My father passed away 654 00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:59,405 when I was 14 years old, 655 00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:02,742 and I think that that was the hook for me. 656 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:04,494 People always say, "If you could 657 00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,788 bring anybody back's life, who would it be?" 658 00:29:06,829 --> 00:29:09,540 In my case, it's a... it's a no-brainer: 659 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:12,085 It would be my father. 660 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:16,005 When you look at most horror movies, I think, 661 00:29:16,047 --> 00:29:18,508 they're about an impossible dream. 662 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,927 In 1985, "Re-Animator" 663 00:29:20,969 --> 00:29:23,346 and Dan O'Bannon's "Return of the Living Dead" 664 00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:26,057 explored the comic frontiers of the zombie genre. 665 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,018 Brains! 666 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,729 That same year, the king of the zombies... 667 00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:35,233 George Romero... was crafting a much darker film, 668 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,318 what he hoped would be the zombie film 669 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,571 to end all zombie films: "Day of the Dead." 670 00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:42,615 "Day of the Dead" was intended 671 00:29:42,657 --> 00:29:45,618 to be George Romero's $10 million opus. 672 00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:51,666 - No... - George Romero's 673 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,376 first two zombie films 674 00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:54,836 invented a new kind of monster... 675 00:29:54,877 --> 00:29:56,546 And a new metaphor 676 00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:57,672 for life in America. 677 00:29:57,714 --> 00:30:00,300 One, two, three, go. 678 00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:04,137 By 1985, he was making 679 00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,764 what he hoped would be his ultimate statement, 680 00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:08,933 a zombie film that combined 681 00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:11,019 incredibly realistic special effects 682 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:12,270 with a powerful message. 683 00:30:15,273 --> 00:30:17,859 The message of the Reagan era was... 684 00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,154 no more war on poverty, no more war on crime, 685 00:30:21,195 --> 00:30:24,449 no more war on racial segregation. 686 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:25,742 Uh, screw it. 687 00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:29,412 We've lost. There's more of them 688 00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:31,205 than there are of us, so you need to retreat 689 00:30:31,247 --> 00:30:34,542 into your protective enclaves and husband your resources. 690 00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:36,294 And that's exactly what our characters do. 691 00:30:36,336 --> 00:30:40,006 - You must listen! - Listen to this. 692 00:30:46,763 --> 00:30:48,806 In "Day of the Dead," we see the military rule, 693 00:30:48,848 --> 00:30:51,100 - and that's even scarier. - I'm running 694 00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:53,227 this monkey farm now, Frankenstein, 695 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:55,772 and I want to know what the 696 00:30:55,813 --> 00:30:58,107 you're doing with my time! 697 00:30:58,149 --> 00:31:00,026 A bunch of people who are trying to do good 698 00:31:00,068 --> 00:31:01,652 and find a cure are being ruled 699 00:31:01,694 --> 00:31:04,906 by this military presence that is very aggressive 700 00:31:04,947 --> 00:31:08,242 and will do anything it takes to preserve itself, 701 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,994 so that's terrifying as well. 702 00:31:11,662 --> 00:31:13,307 The zombies are in some ways, you know... 703 00:31:13,331 --> 00:31:15,375 the ones who are being experimented upon... 704 00:31:15,416 --> 00:31:17,919 kind of more sympathetic than many of the humans. 705 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,589 Rhodes! 706 00:31:21,631 --> 00:31:24,384 In "Dawn of the Dead," we're losing. 707 00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,177 In "Day of the Dead," we've lost. 708 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:28,971 Most good directors that really have a grasp 709 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,681 on the medium can do horror. 710 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:32,809 - It's not as delicate as humor. - Mm. 711 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:34,185 It's not as delicate. 712 00:31:34,227 --> 00:31:35,371 Uh, there are some tricks of the trade 713 00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:37,146 that you can apply. 714 00:31:37,188 --> 00:31:39,065 Like his other zombie films, 715 00:31:39,107 --> 00:31:41,984 "Day of the Dead" was shot in Romero's hometown 716 00:31:42,026 --> 00:31:44,278 of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 717 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,614 far outside of the Hollywood system. 718 00:31:46,656 --> 00:31:49,117 But that's what made... 719 00:31:49,158 --> 00:31:51,202 George Romero... 720 00:31:51,244 --> 00:31:52,912 such a terrific filmmaker, 721 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,332 was that he was a legit, regional filmmaker, 722 00:31:56,374 --> 00:31:58,960 and what made it special 723 00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:01,546 was the slightly homemade quality 724 00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:03,339 to the movies. 725 00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,426 Everywhere that he would go in Pittsburgh, 726 00:32:06,467 --> 00:32:08,302 you knew somebody that was a zombie. 727 00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:10,263 You knew somebody that was involved 728 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:12,056 with George Romero's movies, 729 00:32:12,098 --> 00:32:13,808 and that's how I got into the business. 730 00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:16,352 Because when "Day of the Dead" came along, 731 00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:18,813 I had befriended George 732 00:32:18,855 --> 00:32:20,791 because of some mutual family friends, and he's like, 733 00:32:20,815 --> 00:32:22,126 "Hey, I'm doing a sequel to 'Dawn of the Dead.' 734 00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:23,818 Do you want a job?" I'm like... 735 00:32:23,860 --> 00:32:25,963 "I was gonna be a doctor, but this sounds way better." 736 00:32:29,157 --> 00:32:31,534 And this is where George Romero 737 00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:34,412 and Tom Savini... arguably their creative peaks 738 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:37,457 at the same time, working together. 739 00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:39,500 Special effects artists like Rick Baker 740 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:42,253 and Tom Savini were heralded 741 00:32:42,295 --> 00:32:44,464 as, like, kings and icons of the horror film 742 00:32:44,505 --> 00:32:45,983 because they were creating special effects 743 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,508 that were out of this world. 744 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,844 Like something we'd never seen before. 745 00:32:49,886 --> 00:32:52,221 Vietnam was a lesson in anatomy for me. 746 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:54,182 I was a combat photographer. 747 00:32:54,223 --> 00:32:55,892 I saw horrible stuff. 748 00:32:55,933 --> 00:32:57,578 In fact, I'm the only make-up artist, I think, 749 00:32:57,602 --> 00:32:59,770 that has seen the real stuff. 750 00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,439 In a movie, 751 00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:04,650 when someone dies they close their mouth 752 00:33:04,692 --> 00:33:06,086 and they wanna look pretty for the camera... 753 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:09,697 And that just takes me right out of it, 754 00:33:09,739 --> 00:33:11,800 because that actor doesn't know how to portray death, 755 00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:14,368 or the director doesn't know to tell them... 756 00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:16,704 the mouth always goes slack. 757 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:21,000 My masterpiece is "Day of the Dead." 758 00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:28,216 There a lot of cool stuff in, uh... in "Day of the Dead." 759 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,135 We cut the guy's arm off, you know. 760 00:33:31,177 --> 00:33:32,929 I dug a hole under the guy 761 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,805 so his real arm goes into the hole. 762 00:33:37,016 --> 00:33:38,768 And tearing Taso's head off... 763 00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:43,189 And it's actually Greg Nicotero's fingers 764 00:33:43,231 --> 00:33:45,191 in the eyeballs of the fake head, 765 00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:46,609 and we're running cables down 766 00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:48,110 to make the head work, you know, 767 00:33:48,152 --> 00:33:49,862 so it was effects guys 768 00:33:49,904 --> 00:33:52,323 that were the featured zombies tearing the head off. 769 00:33:52,365 --> 00:33:53,824 My head comes back 770 00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,993 as a zombie head in "Day of the Dead." 771 00:33:56,035 --> 00:33:58,412 You gotta think about the way that Tom designed things, 772 00:33:58,454 --> 00:33:59,681 because he approached everything 773 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:01,249 like it was a magic trick. 774 00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:03,018 You know, the idea that you're... you're taking 775 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:06,045 a special effect and you're deconstructing it 776 00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:09,090 to the point where it's gotta be a magic trick that's gonna 777 00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:11,050 - fool the audience. - The disembowelments 778 00:34:11,092 --> 00:34:12,593 in "Day of the Dead" are unmatched. 779 00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,847 Without a doubt, and that's why you get into... 780 00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:19,892 people who... who watch movies and get... get offended 781 00:34:19,934 --> 00:34:21,644 by the... the gore, and you're like, 782 00:34:21,686 --> 00:34:23,896 "Well, you know it's corn syrup..." 783 00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:25,457 - It's a real presentation. - Red powered... 784 00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:26,899 red powdered food coloring. 785 00:34:26,941 --> 00:34:28,651 Miller! 786 00:34:28,693 --> 00:34:30,570 Miller! 787 00:34:30,611 --> 00:34:33,990 The special makeup effects pioneered by Tom Savini 788 00:34:34,031 --> 00:34:35,992 and Greg Nicotero on "Day of the Dead"... 789 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:37,618 Led directly 790 00:34:37,660 --> 00:34:39,495 to the amazing work we see today 791 00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:41,956 on "The Walking Dead." 792 00:34:41,998 --> 00:34:44,542 The kind of household I grew up in was, you know, 793 00:34:44,584 --> 00:34:46,168 "Oh, you can't go see 'Day of the Dead.' 794 00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:47,712 That's too... that's too much." 795 00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,047 But now you see, uh, 796 00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:53,217 the level of gore that we saw in George Romero's, uh, 797 00:34:53,259 --> 00:34:56,012 "Day of the Dead" on "Walking Dead" every week, 798 00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:57,555 which is insane to me. 799 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:11,152 Go to the left! 800 00:35:12,737 --> 00:35:14,739 In the wake of a zombie apocalypse, 801 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:16,532 a small band of survivors 802 00:35:16,574 --> 00:35:19,160 look for a safe place to live. 803 00:35:19,201 --> 00:35:21,829 The biggest threat they face aren't zombies, 804 00:35:21,871 --> 00:35:24,040 but other people. 805 00:35:24,081 --> 00:35:26,917 This is the premise of "The Walking Dead," 806 00:35:26,959 --> 00:35:29,879 the TV series that brought realistic horror 807 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,048 to the small screen. 808 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,280 People used to come to me and say, "Can you make us 809 00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:40,014 a violent TV series?" 810 00:35:40,056 --> 00:35:41,783 And I'd say, "Well, what makes horror work is you... 811 00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,535 "is you have the threat of killing your characters, 812 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,103 "and what TV... what makes TV work is you want to see 813 00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:47,813 - those characters every week..." - Right. 814 00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:49,458 So you can't have them almost die, and I could never 815 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:50,667 - do the violence I wanted to do. - Yeah, yeah. 816 00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:52,151 - Cut to... - Here we are. 817 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,944 Greg Nicotero and "The Walking Dead." 818 00:35:58,115 --> 00:35:59,909 "The Walking Dead" for sure 819 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:03,079 is the next cultural milestone 820 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,265 really since "Dawn of the Dead" and "Night of the Living Dead." 821 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,208 And, you know, that's really been you. 822 00:36:08,918 --> 00:36:11,837 "Walking Dead" is basically a Western with... 823 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:13,839 with the zombie, uh, apocalypse 824 00:36:13,881 --> 00:36:15,466 set as the backdrop. 825 00:36:15,508 --> 00:36:18,010 If "The Walking Dead" had to be told 826 00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,680 in a 2½ hour time slot, you'd never be able to do it. 827 00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:22,199 You wouldn't care about the characters. 828 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:23,700 You wouldn't really know who Daryl is... 829 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,226 - Yeah. - Who... who Rick is. 830 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:27,186 I'm sorry this happened to you. 831 00:36:29,105 --> 00:36:31,857 The plight of the survivors is a dark reflection 832 00:36:31,899 --> 00:36:34,318 of life in America today. 833 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,613 The mortgage crisis of 2008 resulted in more than 834 00:36:37,655 --> 00:36:39,657 3 million people losing their homes. 835 00:36:39,699 --> 00:36:41,701 Problems with the housing market... 836 00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:44,412 Since then, rising housing prices 837 00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,497 in the major cities have forced more people 838 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:49,083 - to live on the street. - Global meltdown. 839 00:36:49,125 --> 00:36:51,502 There's a sense that civilization is fragile. 840 00:36:51,544 --> 00:36:53,170 That any day now, 841 00:36:53,212 --> 00:36:56,298 we could be like Rick, Daryl, and Carol, 842 00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:57,883 always moving, 843 00:36:57,925 --> 00:37:00,344 surrounded by threats on every side. 844 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:04,950 That's what I always loved... when "Walking Dead" came out, 845 00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:06,910 I would say to people, like, "If the zombie apocalypse 846 00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:08,686 "were real, this is the closest thing 847 00:37:08,728 --> 00:37:11,689 "that I've seen to what that would probably feel like 848 00:37:11,731 --> 00:37:13,315 and be like." 849 00:37:13,357 --> 00:37:16,068 When I first read that script, I didn't... 850 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:18,195 you know, I didn't read it as a zombie thing. 851 00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,030 I read it as this guy lost his family, 852 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:21,675 and he woke up, and he didn't know where he was. 853 00:37:21,699 --> 00:37:23,491 And he was gonna do anything 854 00:37:23,492 --> 00:37:25,120 to go find his family, and that's... 855 00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:27,455 that stuck out on the page way more than a zombie 856 00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:28,998 here and there, you know? 857 00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,499 And everybody played it like that. 858 00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,295 You have to play everything as real as possible. 859 00:37:36,255 --> 00:37:37,858 There's so many examples on that show where, like... 860 00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,109 You're like, "Oh, my God, is this gonna work?" 861 00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:40,634 - And the actors... - No, no, no! 862 00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:42,678 Just pulled it out and made it perfect. 863 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,014 No! 864 00:37:45,055 --> 00:37:47,683 She was playing with me! 865 00:37:47,725 --> 00:37:50,311 - She wanted a friend! - She wanted to kill you! 866 00:37:50,352 --> 00:37:52,480 I was gonna lead her away! 867 00:37:52,521 --> 00:37:54,249 - You could have died. - It's the same thing! 868 00:37:54,273 --> 00:37:56,734 You killed her! You killed her! 869 00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:58,044 There's a reason there wasn't really 870 00:37:58,068 --> 00:38:00,654 a zombie TV show before. 871 00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:03,908 - Ugh... - Effects need 872 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,659 to be really good on a television show 873 00:38:05,701 --> 00:38:08,287 so that people don't fall out of the reality 874 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,664 that you're trying to sell. 875 00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,958 The best zombies, I think, are what Greg is doing 876 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,960 in "The Walking Dead." The best zombies today. 877 00:38:15,002 --> 00:38:16,837 Uh, and there's a lot of CGI there, you know, 878 00:38:16,879 --> 00:38:19,924 and necessary, because the zombies 879 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,759 have been around for so long, 880 00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:25,054 now they're decaying and rotting, you know? 881 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:26,931 Just a little more. 882 00:38:26,972 --> 00:38:28,891 There's that one famous... 883 00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:30,976 - the "well walker..." - Stop! 884 00:38:31,018 --> 00:38:32,520 - Come on! - Where he's just 885 00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:34,188 so waterlogged and bloated 886 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,315 that he just sort of, like, comes apart. 887 00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:45,658 That's one of the beautiful things 888 00:38:45,699 --> 00:38:48,869 that Greg does, is his team... 889 00:38:48,911 --> 00:38:51,163 you can see the lost person 890 00:38:51,205 --> 00:38:52,832 behind the monster, you know? 891 00:38:52,873 --> 00:38:54,750 That's... that's when they become scary. 892 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:57,586 I never get sick of it, honestly. 893 00:38:57,628 --> 00:38:59,189 They keep... they keep reinventing the wheel 894 00:38:59,213 --> 00:39:01,423 with the zombies, it's nuts. 895 00:39:03,884 --> 00:39:06,846 Obviously the... the irony is, who are the walking dead? 896 00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:08,973 Is it the actual zombies or is the people? 897 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:10,575 - Right, right. - Uh, what are they willing 898 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,226 to do to each other to survive? 899 00:39:12,268 --> 00:39:13,537 - And that's... - Yeah, at what point 900 00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,437 - do you lose your humanity? - Right. 901 00:39:15,479 --> 00:39:17,982 "Walking Dead" being on for so long surprises me, 902 00:39:18,023 --> 00:39:21,277 'cause y'all should be dead by now, man. 903 00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:25,239 You know, because it doesn't make sense. 904 00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:27,283 To me. 905 00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,871 Doesn't it feel like zombies are cresting now, too? 906 00:39:31,912 --> 00:39:34,206 Yeah, right now it does seem like we're in the middle 907 00:39:34,248 --> 00:39:36,250 of a zombie apocalypse. 908 00:39:39,003 --> 00:39:40,421 Yeah. 909 00:39:40,462 --> 00:39:42,923 The dumbing down of society. 910 00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:47,928 We're all zombies. 911 00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:52,892 Zombies are representative 912 00:39:52,933 --> 00:39:54,894 of... of Alzheimer's... 913 00:39:54,935 --> 00:39:56,478 a just terrifying disease. 914 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,107 And zombies are representatives of cancer. 915 00:40:00,149 --> 00:40:02,026 To me, what's happened with the zombie 916 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:04,320 is now they're representatives of anarchy 917 00:40:04,361 --> 00:40:06,405 and the collapse of government. 918 00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,407 The collapse of order. 919 00:40:10,367 --> 00:40:13,454 Zombies are really sort of a wonderful catch-all metaphor 920 00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:15,372 because they can mean absolutely anything. 921 00:40:15,414 --> 00:40:17,082 Zombies in 1968 922 00:40:17,124 --> 00:40:19,251 are the breakdown of American society. 923 00:40:20,753 --> 00:40:23,380 In 2017 with "The Walking Dead..." 924 00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:29,929 uh, who knows what it represents. 925 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:38,604 One take-away could be that everything's hopeless... 926 00:40:42,107 --> 00:40:44,777 Another take-away could be that humans 927 00:40:44,818 --> 00:40:48,322 will always persevere even when... 928 00:40:48,364 --> 00:40:50,240 it seems like there's no reason to 929 00:40:50,282 --> 00:40:51,909 or that it's impossible to. 930 00:40:55,037 --> 00:40:56,538 Yeah, zombies will never die. 931 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,082 No pun intended. 932 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:03,337 It's so interesting, the resurgence of zombies, 933 00:41:03,379 --> 00:41:05,714 and the fact that they kind of won't ever go away. 934 00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:09,593 We'll always be telling stories. 935 00:41:09,635 --> 00:41:11,595 I think we'll... we're never gonna lose 936 00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:13,305 our fascination with them. 937 00:41:13,347 --> 00:41:15,015 Half a century ago, 938 00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:17,685 George Romero created the modern zombie... 939 00:41:17,726 --> 00:41:20,771 America's great contribution to monster horror. 940 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:25,693 Now, zombie movies are an international phenomenon. 941 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:29,738 The zombie plague has infected the world. 942 00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:31,323 As relentless 943 00:41:31,365 --> 00:41:33,158 and unstoppable 944 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,452 as the flesh-eating undead. 945 00:41:42,418 --> 00:41:45,212 We wake them and we got it all! 70978

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