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WILLIAM SHATNER:
It hides in the shadows.
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A giant, hairy creature
that walks on two feet
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and watches us
with glowing eyes.
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Does Bigfoot really exist?
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Part ape, part man?
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As crazy as it seems,
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there are many who believe
that not only
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is such a creature real
but they've seen it,
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tracked it,
even photographed it.
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But then, if Bigfoot
does exist, what is it?
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Where does it come from?
How many are there?
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And perhaps more importantly...
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(creature snarling)
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...should we be afraid of it?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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Bigfoot researcher
Matt Moneymaker and a colleague
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are investigating
reported Bigfoot sightings
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in a wooded area
near the town of Kent.
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After spending years
pursuing Bigfoot
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in hopes of seeing one himself,
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Matt is eager to find out
whether there really is
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a giant creature in these woods.
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MATT MONEYMAKER:
We were staked out
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along a road, the guy I was
with was about 60 feet away.
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And at about 2:30 a. m.,
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something comes walking
down the road.
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I see something.
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He sees it first
through night vision.
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SHATNER:
Matt rushes over to investigate,
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and is stopped dead in his
tracks by the sound of...
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â(growling)
â...inhuman growling.
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MONEYMAKER:
This thing steps out.
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A very big, tall,
hairâcovered thing...
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...standing out there
growling at me.
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When you've got
something that big
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that close to you, you could
see it well enough to know
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that must be a Bigfoot.
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So I just kind of backed up
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and walked away.
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I was pretty happy
at that point,
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because I'm thinking,
"If this one's gonna do that,
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"reliably, then this is a place
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"that we're gonna get
some video footage of them
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if we're coming here
with the right kind of gear."
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SHATNER:
But when Matt returned
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with camera equipment
to document the encounter,
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the creature had vanished.
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Although Matt was not
able to photograph
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the large, hairy beast
that he witnessed,
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he remains convinced that what
he saw was, in fact, Bigfoot.
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It's one of those things
that sounds so overâtheâtop,
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but after I had
a faceâtoâface encounter,
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I knew it was exactly
the same thing
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that all the witnesses
around there had described.
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SHATNER:
The encounter inspired Matt
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to found the Bigfoot Field
Researchers Organization,
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or BFRO.
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MONEYMAKER:
The roots of it are people
who were sharing information.
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We were sharing
sighting reports, mainly,
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from different parts
of the country.
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And I came up
with the idea that,
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"Why don't we put all these
into a website?"
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You know, sort it
by county and state
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so people can look up reports.
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And when we did that,
it worked really well.
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Lots of people started
submitting reports.
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SHATNER:
According to the BFRO,
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there have been more than
3,500 credible Bigfoot sightings
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since 1960.
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Although science has yet
to prove the existence
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of the legendary manâbeast,
that hasn't stopped Bigfoot
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from becoming
a fullâfledged phenomenon.
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CHRISTOPHER BADER:
Bigfoot is literally everywhere.
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There are Bigfoot stories
in Nevada.
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There are
Bigfoot stories in Nebraska,
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Florida, Texas.
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Literally every part
of the country
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has its own stories and legends
of Bigfoot.
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It's likely, wherever you live
in this country,
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you are within a hundred miles
of a place
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that purportedly has a Bigfoot.
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SHATNER:
If these sightings
are of a real creature,
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then what exactly is Bigfoot?
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And how did this
phenomenon begin?
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TOK THOMPSON:
Bigfoot is generally
reported to be
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a very large, very furry, uh,
hominid creature.
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Something like a person,
uh, but not a person,
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seen very often remotely
in the forest.
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And with various stories
about sightings
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or about footprints that
really are pretty widespread
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in many, many communities in
the United States and in Canada.
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Before 1958, people didn't
use the word "Bigfoot."
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But it was in 1958
in Northern California,
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guys building a road
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found footprints
around their gear
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when they would come
back in the morning.
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And a guy named Jerry Crew
made plaster footprints
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of these tracks and showed them
to a reporter in Eureka,
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and they dubbed it "Bigfoot."
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That was where the name
first originated
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and got
into American vocabulary.
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SHATNER:
Photos of Jerry Crew's cast
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of giant footprints made
headlines across the country.
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Many Americans came
to believe that a tall,
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bipedal, apelike creature
roamed the forests
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of the Pacific Northwest.
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I grew up in Washington State,
where it's hard
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to underestimate
Bigfoot's power.
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Bigfoot is the mascot
of different companies.
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Bigfoot is all over billboards.
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As a young boy
in Washington State,
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I fully believed
in Bigfoot's existence.
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SHATNER:
In 1967, interest
in Bigfoot surged
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when an investigator
named Roger Patterson
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captured incredible footage
of a creature
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that matched
the description of Bigfoot
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near Bluff Creek
in Northern California.
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Patterson's film became
an instant sensation,
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but skeptics claimed
that it had to be a man
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in a monkey suit.
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One of the issues when it comes
to people believing
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in Bigfoot existing
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is, let's face it,
mainstream sciences
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shun away from this topic.
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However, amateur researchers
are trying to pick up the slack,
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bridge that gap
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between amateur
and mainstream science.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot researchers claim
that the vast majority
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of Bigfoot sightings
are sincere,
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and that hoaxes represent only
a small fraction of reports.
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They also point out that stories
of Bigfootâlike animals
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are not merely a recent fad.
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Believe it or not,
more than 3,000 years ago,
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the ancient Babylonians
told stories of a creature
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that sounds an awful lot
like Bigfoot.
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Except they called it Enkidu.
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SARA BURDORFF:
Enkidu is a...
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hairy, wild man creature
with super strength,
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and he's fearsome,
he's ready and willing
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to defend this wild territory
that he inhabits.
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The king, Gilgamesh,
becomes his soulmate, basically.
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Best friends.
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So, this king becomes
this amazing hero
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through his relationship
with this wild man
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that has shown him
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how to negotiate the boundaries
between humanity and wildness.
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SHATNER:
Since that time, descriptions
of soâcalled "wild men,"
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halfâhuman, halfâape beasts,
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have popped up throughout
history, all over the world.
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JONATHAN YOUNG:
In the Caucasus,
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there was something
called the alma
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that was a big monster,
a nature creature.
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In Australia,
there's the Aboriginal version
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which is called a yowie.
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There is the Yeti
in the Himalayas.
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So there are local variations,
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but the story
is more or less the same.
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Very big, seemingly animallike,
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or is it human
or is it some hybrid?
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There's the point.
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SHATNER:
In North America,
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there are Native American
legends that go back centuries,
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long before the discoveries
made by Jerry Crew
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or Roger Patterson.
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LYNNE McNEILL:
We know that Sasquatch,
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the preeminent Bigfoot creature
that we have
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in the United States, located
in the Pacific Northwest,
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that very word, "Sasquatch,"
comes from a Salish tribal word
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that means "wild man"
or "hairy man."
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YOUNG:
The natives of the Northwest say
that there are creatures
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that walk upright
and only at night.
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And can speak in their language.
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NEISS:
I found, in speaking
with indigenous peoples,
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that they don't describe them
as an animal at all.
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They call them the First Ones,
or the Old Ones.
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"These were the tribe that was
here before we got here."
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SHATNER:
An ancient tribe
that predates humanity?
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It's a fascinating notion,
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one that Bigfoot researchers
are eager to investigate.
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And there are some who will risk
going into the deepest
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and darkest forests to try
and capture the huge creature,
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even though it may not
want to be found.
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(low growl)
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SHATNER: Future U. S. President
Teddy Roosevelt
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publishes The Wilderness Hunter,
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a book about
his youthful adventures
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in the Dakota Territory.
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His memoir contains a story
that was told to him
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by an old mountain man,
who, years before,
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had encountered an apelike
creature deep in the woods.
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There were some trappers
and they kept having
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encounters kind of in the dark
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with what they thought
were these huge creatures
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that were leaving
huge manlike footprints.
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One of the guys decided
to go off and check traps,
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and the other one
would hide back at camp
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and see what was
coming in every time
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that they would leave camp.
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When the guy came back
from checking traps,
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he found his friend dead,
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his body broken over a log,
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and it looked like
it had just been pummeled.
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And they attributed it to
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an eightâfootâtall,
600âpound ape.
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SHATNER:
The disturbing encounter
recorded by Roosevelt
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is one of the earliest accounts
of American pioneers
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coming faceâtoâface
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with what many
Native Americans called...
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Sasquatch.
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If the story is true,
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it seems like Sasquatch wasn't
very friendly
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towards humans who
encroached on its territory.
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(low growling)
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There are vastly different ideas
within the Bigfoot subculture
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about Bigfoot's disposition.
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Some believe that Bigfoot is
an angry, homicidal predator.
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And if you come into its domain,
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it will try to kill you
if it can.
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Others believe that Bigfoot
is merely an animal.
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And just like a grizzly bear
might become aggressive
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under the right circumstances,
it could.
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SHATNER:
Over the past century, more
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of the American wilderness
has been settled,
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with the construction
of new housing, industry,
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and infrastructure.
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But if we have been encroaching
on Bigfoot's habitat
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for so long,
then how come no one has ever
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recovered the body of one?
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It's been estimated perhaps
2,000 of these things exist
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throughout
the Pacific Northwest.
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Sounds like a lot,
but it really isn't.
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Considering two
of the major ranges,
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the Cascade Range
and the Coast Range,
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make up 68,000 square miles,
mostly uninhabited.
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When you distribute
2,000 of anything
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in 68,000 square miles...
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you'd be lucky to run
across one in your life.
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BADER:
People who believe
that Bigfoot is
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a biological creature
will simply
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talk about how stealthy it is,
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that it's very good at moving
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through the woods
without making any noise
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and therefore
can slip away at will.
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SHATNER:
Is Bigfoot simply
too elusive to be captured?
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Perhaps.
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But that hasn't stopped an army
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of soâcalled "Bigfoot hunters"
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from trying to track it down.
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JEFF MELDRUM:
The role of citizen scientists
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is potentially
a very significant one.
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It may well be
that major discoveries
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will be made
not by scientists in this arena,
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but by citizen scientists.
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BADER:
Modern Bigfoot hunters
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use techniques
such as wood knocking...
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(whoops)
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...playing purported Bigfoot
screams while in the woods.
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These are things that many
modern Bigfoot investigators
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believe will draw
any nearby Sasquatch to you.
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MONEYMAKER:
I think the future
of Bigfoot research,
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in a lot of ways, rests with new
optics with thermal imagers.
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And especially with drones,
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thermal imagers
attached to drones.
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I really do see a future
where the next
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big, profound piece of footage
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is gonna be gotten by a drone.
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BADER:
Many Bigfoot hunters
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are very much devoted
to the idea
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that the creature
that they're looking for
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is an undiscovered animal.
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They believe
that if they try hard enough,
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they could capture
sufficient evidence
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to prove the issue
once and for all.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot hunters have set
their sights
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on catching the beast itself.
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But the most compelling pieces
of evidence
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that we have right now
are the huge footprints
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that have been found
for decades.
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And according to anthropologist
Dr. Jeff Meldrum,
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these impressions in the ground
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prove that there really is
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an enormous primate
roaming the forest.
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MELDRUM:
My research expertise
centers around
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the adaptations
of the human body
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for bipedalismââ the habit
of walking on two legs.
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So that put me
in a very apropos position
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to address what is probably
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the most prolific and,
in my opinion,
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by far the most compelling
body of evidence
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for the existence of Sasquatch,
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namely the footprints.
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SHATNER:
Dr. Meldrum's interest in
Bigfoot footprints started
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in 1996 when he
and a colleague came across
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a remarkable line of footprints
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in Southeastern Washington.
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As we walk out there,
here's this unmistakable line
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of footprints in the mud,
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these 15âinch footprints,
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and the hair stood up
on the back of my neck
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as I realized
a Sasquatch actually
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walked by here last night.
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The evidence was really
unmistakable to my eye
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with my background and training.
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SHATNER:
Dr. Meldrum immediately made
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several casts
of the intriguing footprints.
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The first of many such casts
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that he has made
throughout his career.
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Based off his research,
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he has concluded that by
analyzing a variety of factors,
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such as how the foot imprints
irregularities into the ground
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or the spacing
of the toes in the dirt,
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it is possible to determine
when footprints have been faked
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and when they were really made
by a 15âinch foot.
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So here we are
over 20 years later, and
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in addition
to the seven footprint
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casts that I made
on that afternoon,
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there are over 300 casts
to keep them company here
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in the specimen drawers
in my laboratory.
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It's just been an amazing road
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that has yielded, due to this
extraordinary sample,
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the emergence
of a model of a foot
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that is not simply
an enlarged facsimile
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of a human footprint
but rather shows
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all the distinctions
of a foot adapted
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to transport
a 800âtoâ1,200âpound
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bipedal primate
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through the rough,
irregular, incline terrain
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of the mountainous forests
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they are said to inhabit.
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SHATNER:
If Bigfoot is making
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giant footprints in the forest,
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then is it a creature
that can be explained
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by conventional science?
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Bigfoot researchers believe
the answer is yes.
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And they claim
that Bigfoot is an animal...
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that has already been found.
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SHATNER:
Explorer Robert von Beringe
is leading an expedition
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up Mount Sabyinyo
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when he comes upon
a troop of gorillas.
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Which is extraordinary,
because according
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to mainstream scientists
at the time, gorillas aren't
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supposed to live
in the mountains.
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BADER:
For years, when reports came out
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about mountain gorillas,
people said,
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"They're lying,
they're hoaxers,"
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until we finally had specimens.
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(gorilla hooting)
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And now
the mountain gorilla are part
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of the public
and historical record.
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MELDRUM:
The discovery of the gorilla
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is actually a very good example
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of the manner in which
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the existence
of an unknown primate species
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was eventually recognized
by Western science.
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And science requires
a type specimen
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in order to justify
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the recognition
of a novel species.
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SHATNER:
For Bigfoot researchers,
the discovery
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of the mountain gorilla
is an example
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of how the assumptions
of mainstream scientists
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are not always correct.
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And they argue that if the
mountain gorilla survived
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in the African mountains,
unrecognized by science
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until 1902,
that it's possible that Bigfoot
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is alive in the vast forests
of North America.
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It just hasn't
been verified yet.
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But is Bigfoot really
an unknown creature?
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Or is it simply
another name for a creature
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we've known about for decades?
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There's various theories as to
what this type of primate is.
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But it most likely is
related to this line of apes
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out of Southeast Asia, the most
famous of which was called
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Gigantopithecus, the largest
apes that ever lived.
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MELDRUM:
Gigantopithecus was
a species that existed
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during the late Pleistocene,
perhaps until as recently as
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200,000 to 300,000 years ago,
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according to the fossil record.
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It was a giant primate of
literally King Kong proportions
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that could have stood ten feet
tall and weighed in excess
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of a thousand, 1,200 pounds.
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SHATNER:
The theory that what
we call "Bigfoot" is actually
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Gigantopithecus has
profound implications.
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If true, it would mean
that the existence of Bigfoot
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has already been
scientifically verified.
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There's just one problem.
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According to paleontologists,
Gigantopithecus became extinct
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a long time ago.
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MELDRUM:
Gigantopithecus has
often been characterized
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as a creature that fed
exclusively on bamboo
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and, hence, went extinct
when those bamboo forests
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also expired.
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But much more
insightful analyses
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of the fossilized teeth
of Gigantopithecus
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suggests that it had a diet
that was quite diverse.
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Which is quite interesting,
to have an animal that size
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that still had a very diverse,
omnivorous diet.
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SHATNER:
But even if Gigantopithecus
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has somehow survived into
the present, questions remain.
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Such as, how did
such a large creature migrate
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from the bamboo forests
of Southeast Asia
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all the way to North America?
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If Bigfoots are descendants
of Gigantopithecus,
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or a line of apes like it,
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they probably came over
the land bridge
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the same way
that Native Americans did,
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back when Siberia and Alaska
were connected
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and all sorts of animals
were able to cross over
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the Bering Strait.
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SHATNER:
Bigfoot researchers
are steadfast
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in their support
of the Gigantopithecus theory.
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But most experts reject the idea
due to lack of evidence.
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But what if the evidence
does exist,
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and scientists simply
aren't looking for it
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in the right places?
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Naturalist John Mionczynski
is spending the summer
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working for the U. S.
Forest Service.
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I was employed
by the U. S. Forest Service
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and the Wyoming Game
and Fish Department
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on a cooperative study.
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The project was set up so that
I would live in the wild.
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â(owl hooting)
âSHATNER: Late one night,
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John feels what he thinks
is a large bear
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pressing against
the outside of his tent.
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I was approached by something
that cast a shadow.
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The Moon was just coming up,
it was almost a full moon.
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I clearly saw a hand
with four fingers
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and an opposed thumb,
like a human hand.
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And it was large.
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It was twice the size
of my hand.
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It was getting aggressive
with its movements
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on the side of the tent.
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I hit it
with the back of my hand.
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(growling)
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Whatever it was had backed off.
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It ran back behind some trees.
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So I was totally perplexed.
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I have to say that,
the thought of Sasquatch
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never occurred to me
at that moment.
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SHATNER:
When John reported the encounter
to the Forest Service,
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he learned that there had been
a rash of similar reports.
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His boss, afraid the sightings
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might be the work
of a prankster,
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asked him to investigate
and interview the witnesses.
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MIONCZYNSKI:
I eventually interviewed
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about 25 people.
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The most interesting one
was a young man
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in a little cabin
up against the mountains.
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(creature growls)
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He had reported
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seeing one of these
behaving aggressively
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in front of his cabin.
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And he shot it.
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And he'd thought he'd killed it,
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but it got up immediately
and ran off.
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SHATNER:
John visited the cabin
and, incredibly,
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found that there were hair
samples left near the house.
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He collected the hairs
and brought them
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to Walter Birkby, a wellâknown
forensic anthropologist
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and leading expert
on hair analysis.
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The analysis came back
a few days later
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and Walter Birkby said,
and this is a quote,
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"This is my first stumper.
These hairs are primate."
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And he was certain about that.
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The result was controversial
because a hairy primate
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is not of an animal
native to Wyoming.
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That kind of suggested
the idea of Bigfoot.
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SHATNER:
Solid, physical evidence
of a primate in Wyoming?
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You might think
that the scientific community
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would be thrilled
by such a discovery.
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But John quickly realized
the perils
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of making that assumption.
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MIONCZYNSKI:
The head
of the research division
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actually chewed us out.
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Pointing his finger at us
and saying,
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"If your names
are ever associated
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"with this word Bigfoot again,
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I will personally see to it
that you're fired."
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(low growl)
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If hard evidence of Bigfoot
really exists,
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then why are scientists
so eager to dismiss it?
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Maybe it's safer to think
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that it's all just a delusion
or a hoax.
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Or perhaps Bigfoot doesn't fit
into their preconceived notions
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of the world.
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In any case,
some evidence is difficult,
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if not downright impossible,
to ignore,
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as you shall see.
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SHATNER:
Researcher Robert Collier
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is leading a Bigfoot expedition
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in a remote part
of the wilderness.
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COLLIER:
It was about dusk,
getting a little bit darker.
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And all of a sudden we hear
these horrendous footsteps.
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As we looked in front of us,
what we saw had two legs.
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And it looked like
the conical shaped head,
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the broad shoulders.
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And it's sitting right there.
I'm looking at it.
497
00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,969
SHATNER:
Robert and his companions
were astonished
498
00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:39,515
by the twoâlegged creature
moving near them.
499
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,350
But what happened next
was even more extraordinary.
500
00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:44,061
COLLIER:
Soon as that happened,
501
00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:47,397
it was like somebody had
parked their car down there
502
00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:49,608
and turned on headlights.
503
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,485
Lit up the whole area.
504
00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,779
And I remember looking at that
505
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:58,200
and the lights stayed on,
one, two,
506
00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,452
three, off.
507
00:27:00,536 --> 00:27:02,663
Then it just went silent.
508
00:27:02,746 --> 00:27:05,165
But we were in such shock
and pure amazement
509
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:06,959
from that, from that sighting.
510
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,798
SHATNER:
A sudden, brilliant illumination
deep in the forest?
511
00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:15,634
Just before the mysterious
creature Robert saw
512
00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:17,803
seemingly disappeared?
513
00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:23,433
While it may sound
like a fantastical story,
514
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:27,229
this wasn't the last time
Robert observed
515
00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:30,524
such a strange occurrence.
516
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,234
COLLIER:
This last expedition,
517
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,111
I experienced more lights.
518
00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:37,614
We had some activity one night
and I remember,
519
00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:39,783
at one point,
Bigfoot turned its body
520
00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:40,909
and it looked back at me.
521
00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:42,828
And then this blue lightââ
522
00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:44,746
it was a blue streak
through the forestââ
523
00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:46,665
and it shot off to the right.
524
00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,500
I still can't wrap
my head around it.
525
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,878
But still other people
experience that
526
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,963
and they're seeing
the same things.
527
00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:55,632
People are starting to see
these white orbs.
528
00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:58,802
The blue lights, the streaks.
529
00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:01,054
So, there's the common
denominator in there.
530
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:04,850
SHATNER:
Robert and others who have seen
these inexplicable lights
531
00:28:04,975 --> 00:28:06,643
may not have all the answers.
532
00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:09,313
However, the phenomenon
533
00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:13,984
suggests
an intriguing possibility.
534
00:28:14,151 --> 00:28:18,155
You see, most researchers
speculate that Bigfoot could be
535
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,616
some form of ape and man
536
00:28:20,741 --> 00:28:22,743
or a mix of both.
537
00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,703
But what if those theories
are missing the target?
538
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:27,664
If Bigfoot is real,
539
00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:29,833
could it be totally different
540
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,586
from any kind of creature
that we're familiar with?
541
00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:35,297
Perhaps the answer
can be found by examining
542
00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:39,718
one of the most notorious
Bigfoot encounters in history.
543
00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:50,145
Gold prospector Fred Beck
and some miners are working
544
00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:53,523
on a claim not far
from Mount St. Helens,
545
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:57,152
when they hear a bizarre noise.
546
00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:58,487
BADER:
Fred and one of his friends
547
00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,197
heard strange whistling sounds
548
00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:02,532
and all of a sudden
saw a hairy creature
549
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,660
peek its head
out from behind a tree.
550
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,119
The men instantly
pulled out their guns
551
00:29:06,203 --> 00:29:07,704
and started shooting
at the creature...
552
00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:13,794
...which howled and screamed
as it ran away.
553
00:29:13,877 --> 00:29:17,798
And this attack on the creature
seemed to provoke it,
554
00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:19,091
because that evening
555
00:29:19,174 --> 00:29:22,803
Fred and his friends
in their cabin were assaulted
556
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:26,306
by what seemed to be a group
of Sasquatch, or Bigfeet.
557
00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,101
They heard pounding on the roof.
558
00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:35,983
Fred described the creatures
as tall and hairy,
559
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:39,152
having apelike faces and being
entirely hairâcovered,
560
00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:41,321
and between six
to eight feet tall,
561
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:42,823
running around on two legs.
562
00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:45,033
SHATNER:
The men soon realized
that the cabin
563
00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:48,662
would not necessarily protect
them from their attackers,
564
00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:51,039
because the creatures
bombarded the cabin
565
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:53,500
with huge rocks
from the cliffs above
566
00:29:53,667 --> 00:29:56,962
and then tried to get inside.
567
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:59,881
BADER:
In one especially terrifying
part of the story,
568
00:30:00,007 --> 00:30:01,174
a creature reached its hand
through the cabin
569
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:04,469
and tried to grab an ax,
but Fred grabbed
570
00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:06,847
the head of the ax and turned it
571
00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:09,016
so the creature
couldn't pull it through.
572
00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:13,770
The next morning,
as it neared daylight,
573
00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:15,897
the attacks finally stopped.
574
00:30:16,023 --> 00:30:19,276
And Fred and his friends
decided to make their escape.
575
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,946
And this story made
its way into the papers.
576
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:27,117
And ever since then, this area
has been known as Ape Canyon.
577
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,748
SHATNER:
For some, the soâcalled
Ape Canyon Incident
578
00:30:32,873 --> 00:30:35,167
proves that Bigfoot
possesses intelligence
579
00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:40,130
that exceeds that of any known
animal and rivals our own.
580
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:44,843
But to others,
the incident suggests something
581
00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:47,054
much more incredible.
582
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:49,598
BADER:
If you actually look back
583
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:53,143
to Fred Beck's own works,
he did not think these creatures
584
00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:55,729
were actually
undiscovered animals.
585
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,773
He thought they were
spiritual entities
586
00:30:57,898 --> 00:30:59,316
from another plane of existence.
587
00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:02,277
He claimed they would
find a footprint track
588
00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,404
that would suddenly end
in the middle of a sandbar,
589
00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,323
suggesting that a creature
had just simply disappeared
590
00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,617
as it was walking.
591
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,287
So, from his perspective, this
was not an undiscovered ape.
592
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:15,082
It was a mystical creature
from another dimension.
593
00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:19,044
SHATNER:
A mystical creature
from another dimension?
594
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:22,631
But how is such
a thing possible?
595
00:31:22,798 --> 00:31:25,467
And doesn't that theory
contradict
596
00:31:25,634 --> 00:31:29,137
mainstream Bigfoot research?
597
00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:32,140
BADER:
The idea that Bigfoot
might be able to disappear
598
00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:34,559
into another dimension,
that is very threatening
599
00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:37,729
to that view that it's
simply an undiscovered animal.
600
00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:40,816
And, in fact, people oftentimes
make fun of Bigfoot hunters
601
00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:42,484
and say, "You're just like
ghost hunters,
602
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:44,319
you're just like people
who see fairies and demons."
603
00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:48,407
And when you add paranormal
elements to a Bigfoot story,
604
00:31:48,532 --> 00:31:50,242
you open them up
for that very criticism
605
00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:51,451
that bothers them so much.
606
00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:53,954
THOMPSON: Most of
the contemporary traditions
607
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:55,747
assign Bigfoot or Sasquatch
608
00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:57,082
to the natural world.
609
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:59,709
In other words, it's not
a supernatural character.
610
00:31:59,835 --> 00:32:01,253
Most of the native traditions
611
00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:02,963
would be more of
the spiritual world
612
00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:04,965
or more of
the supernatural world.
613
00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:07,092
That this figure is
more than simply
614
00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:08,969
a large hominid
living out there.
615
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:12,931
They've ascribed, uh,
some powers to them,
616
00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:14,599
spiritual powers.
617
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:18,311
They can change into
different things at times,
618
00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:23,024
which aids in their ability
to seem to vanish on location.
619
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:24,818
Uh, shapeshifters,
if you will.
620
00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:27,070
And so they have
621
00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,240
a whole different respect
for them, spiritually.
622
00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:36,163
Does Bigfoot really have
mystical powers?
623
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,791
And could this
fantastical notion
624
00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:42,043
help to explain things
about Bigfoot
625
00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:47,090
that have, up till now,
stumped researchers?
626
00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:49,968
There are those who believe
that the answer is yesââ
627
00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:51,511
and that one big reason
628
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,222
why Bigfoot has
otherworldly abilities
629
00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:58,226
is because he really is
from another world.
630
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:12,782
SHATNER:
Bigfoot researcher Joe Fex
visits a rural Appalachian farm
631
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:14,743
owned by a woman who claims
632
00:33:14,868 --> 00:33:16,286
that she has encountered Bigfoot
633
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:19,122
not once, not twice,
but many times
634
00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:21,124
over a period of years.
635
00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,878
FEX:
Janice Carter Coy claimed
636
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,922
Bigfoot would come
down the mountain,
637
00:33:27,047 --> 00:33:29,633
visit this barn
that was about two miles away,
638
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:33,303
and that they would come visit
her grandfather's farm.
639
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:35,722
SHATNER:
Eager to find out
640
00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:38,141
whether Janice's incredible
story could be true,
641
00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:43,230
Joe decided to do a nighttime
stakeout on her farm.
642
00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:48,193
That night, Joe and Janice
were sitting around a firepit
643
00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:53,240
when Joe noticed
something... strange.
644
00:33:53,365 --> 00:33:55,075
FEX:
As we're talking,
645
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,745
I see between
these barn structures
646
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:03,959
two very bright, very vivid
lime green lights.
647
00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:07,212
And they're floating
across this open area
648
00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:08,672
between these structures.
649
00:34:08,797 --> 00:34:09,798
I thought,
650
00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:12,050
"Wow, Tennessee has got
some pretty extremely large
651
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,885
lightning bugs out here."
652
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:15,720
SHATNER:
But the green lights
653
00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:16,888
started to come closer to him
654
00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:20,684
and Joe realized that what
he thought were fireflies...
655
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,687
were actually glowing eyes.
656
00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:24,854
FEX:
I could see
657
00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:28,692
the structure of a very large,
658
00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:31,278
longâhaired, shaggyââ
659
00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:33,363
what looked like
a very muscular ape.
660
00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:35,615
And I looked over at Janice
661
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:37,701
and she's just looking
at me with this grin.
662
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:38,952
And she says,
663
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:42,497
"He wants to know if you're
going to go back to Colorado
664
00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:44,833
and tell people
you saw fireflies."
665
00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:46,459
How Janice would even know that
666
00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:48,336
that thought
even entered my head,
667
00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:50,755
brief as that thought was,
668
00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:52,215
I really have no idea.
669
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,301
SHATNER
Joe was astonished to see
670
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,094
that Janice seemed to be able
671
00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:57,095
to mentally communicate
with the creature...
672
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,806
which was somehow
reading his mind, too.
673
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:04,019
Janice said, "He wants you to
come back to the ditch line.
674
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,646
He wants to see you.
He wants you to see him."
675
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:08,648
And I thought,
"Oh, this is insane."
676
00:35:08,732 --> 00:35:11,359
But she gives me
this big flashlight.
677
00:35:11,526 --> 00:35:13,486
So I started
walking over there
678
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,989
and back out
behind the house,
679
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,825
and I pointed
the light forward.
680
00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:20,994
And here, in this open area,
681
00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:22,495
stood this guy that had to be
682
00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,372
about eight or nine feet tall.
683
00:35:24,497 --> 00:35:26,333
I've never heard or seen
anything like it
684
00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:27,792
in my entire life.
685
00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,504
SHATNER:
You'd think that after standing
toe to toe with Bigfoot,
686
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:35,800
Joe would remember everything
about such an encounter.
687
00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:39,846
But as it turns out,
Joe's memory is a little fuzzy.
688
00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:44,059
I don't know what happened
at the tail end of that.
689
00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:46,227
I just remember standing
690
00:35:46,353 --> 00:35:48,229
back at the camp,
talking with Janice.
691
00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:49,522
I don't remember walking away.
692
00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:52,484
I don't remember...
how did that end?
693
00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:55,820
Which is, to meââ even now,
all these years laterââ
694
00:35:55,904 --> 00:35:57,656
is really bizarre.
695
00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:59,991
SHATNER:
To many observers,
696
00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:03,370
Joe's description of Bigfoot
sounds less like a primate
697
00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:06,706
and more like
something... paranormal.
698
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:09,584
BADER:
Joe Fex's story actually
699
00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:12,796
sounds a lot like
a UFO abduction account to me.
700
00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:15,548
When you claim that
there's some period of time
701
00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:17,634
that you simply
cannot account for...
702
00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,470
In alien abduction lore,
this is called "missing time,"
703
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:23,181
and it's believed that the
aliens will erase your memory
704
00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:25,141
for a certain period
of the encounter.
705
00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:27,769
There are other stories
within the Bigfoot realm
706
00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:30,146
where people claim to have had
encounters with UFOs
707
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,898
or even had an abduction.
708
00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:37,445
SHATNER:
Could Bigfoot actually be
an extraterrestrial?
709
00:36:38,488 --> 00:36:41,658
Some Bigfoot researchers
would argue the answer is yes,
710
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,160
and that the strongest evidence
lies not in what happened
711
00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:46,996
during Joe's Bigfoot encounter
712
00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:48,915
but what happened after.
713
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:54,713
FEX:
Two weeks later, at maybe 10:30,
11:00 in the morning.
714
00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:56,005
I go into the shower
715
00:36:56,131 --> 00:36:57,549
and I come back
out of the shower,
716
00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,134
uh, dry off real quick,
717
00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:01,052
relax for a minute.
718
00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:03,012
I have a cup of coffee.
719
00:37:03,138 --> 00:37:05,181
I unconsciously reached
back here
720
00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,559
and I could feel something.
721
00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:11,062
I realized there was
a relatively deep hole
722
00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:13,022
that I could fit my pinky into.
723
00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:15,316
It didn't feel like a wound.
724
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:16,651
It felt perfectly fine.
725
00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:19,446
It didn't hurt at all.
There was no sensation.
726
00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:23,199
SHATNER:
An inexplicable hole
in your head
727
00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,411
isn't something
that's easy to understand.
728
00:37:26,536 --> 00:37:30,373
But after considering
every possibility,
729
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:34,586
Joe recognized that what
happened to him was bizarre
730
00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:37,297
but not exactly unheard of.
731
00:37:37,422 --> 00:37:40,175
All of these things
are extremely familiar
732
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:41,760
in the field of UFOs
733
00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:45,346
and the subfield
of UFO abductions.
734
00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,850
They have similarities
in their patterns of behavior,
735
00:37:49,017 --> 00:37:52,353
similarities in the environment
and the circumstances,
736
00:37:52,479 --> 00:37:55,190
similarities in
the side effects.
737
00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:57,650
I don't know
if these things are related,
738
00:37:57,734 --> 00:37:59,611
but there is a correlation.
739
00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:04,282
SHATNER:
Joe Fex may not have
any definitive answers
740
00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:07,327
about Bigfoot
or about his experience.
741
00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:09,537
But what he does have
742
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,790
are some intriguing
possibilities to consider,
743
00:38:11,873 --> 00:38:15,210
thanks to the information
that he has exchanged
744
00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:17,754
with other Bigfoot researchers.
745
00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:21,633
And there are some who believe
that this kind of cooperation
746
00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:26,012
will finally prove
that Bigfoot is real.
747
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:33,645
SHATNER: The Oregon Coast
Mountain Range.
748
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:37,941
Here, not far from the shore
of the Pacific Ocean,
749
00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,945
lies a densely wooded area
that, once a year,
750
00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:44,697
is the site of
an invitationâonly conference
751
00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:48,785
attended by international
experts in their field.
752
00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:51,329
It's called...
753
00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:54,165
Beachfoot.
754
00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:56,209
NEISS:
It was in 2003
755
00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,294
that I had this thought,
756
00:38:58,419 --> 00:39:00,463
"You know, what would happen
if you could get
757
00:39:00,547 --> 00:39:02,799
"all of these
wellâknown researchers
758
00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:06,469
locked in the same room
at the same time?"
759
00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:10,139
The amount of brain trust
there would be amazing.
760
00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:13,309
MIONCZYNSKI:
The Beachfoot gatherings,
761
00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,145
where scientists get
to discuss openly
762
00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:18,398
their research and findings
763
00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:19,649
concerning Bigfoot...
764
00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:22,694
I think it's
a very important step
765
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:26,364
which will open up the subject
766
00:39:26,531 --> 00:39:28,950
to other scientists
who are interested
767
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:30,743
in studying
this kind of phenomenon.
768
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,705
MELDRUM: One of my most
enjoyable activities
769
00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:35,373
at such an event is, sometimes
770
00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,793
I teach a workshop
on "Tracking 101."
771
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:42,964
Those are opportunities
where nonâacademics,
772
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:47,510
nonâPhDs, can strive to emulate
the scientific method
773
00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:49,804
in their own search
774
00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:52,765
for the evidence
they presume to find.
775
00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:55,643
SHATNER:
Gatherings like Beachfoot
776
00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:59,022
prove that the legend of Bigfoot
is alive and well.
777
00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,232
But how is that possible
778
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:04,861
when no conclusive evidence
of Bigfoot has ever been found?
779
00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:11,200
What drives our interest
in this enduring mystery?
780
00:40:11,326 --> 00:40:12,994
The reason I believe
781
00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:15,538
that the Sasquatch subject
has such staying power
782
00:40:15,663 --> 00:40:19,000
is that there's
so many witnesses out there.
783
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,794
There's many parts
of the country where, if you go
784
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,588
and ask people
if they've ever seen one,
785
00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,673
so often you'll hear,
786
00:40:25,798 --> 00:40:28,343
"No, I haven't,
but I know somebody who has."
787
00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,345
So, there's many people
out there
788
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:32,972
who at least know
someone they trust
789
00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:35,516
who has told them
that they've seen these things.
790
00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,477
And that has had
the effect of changing
791
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,395
people's opinion
about the subject
792
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,941
of what would otherwise be just
total skepticism everywhere.
793
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:47,570
BURDORFF:
Bigfoot matters because
794
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:51,407
it would be tangible proof
of a solved mystery.
795
00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,868
Finding a real Bigfoot,
796
00:40:54,035 --> 00:40:55,328
a real creature,
797
00:40:55,411 --> 00:40:59,290
would be like discovering
798
00:40:59,374 --> 00:41:01,709
another piece of the world.
799
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:06,047
And it's... it's us reaching
for another piece
800
00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:07,966
of that unknown
801
00:41:08,049 --> 00:41:10,218
that's always
just beyond our reach.
802
00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:15,390
So, now, what do you think? Huh?
803
00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,100
Is Bigfoot real,
804
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:20,937
or is it all just part
of an elaborate hoax?
805
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,690
I guess that depends on what
kind of a person you are.
806
00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:26,609
If you're the openâminded type
807
00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,278
who believes that the world
is filled with wonder,
808
00:41:29,404 --> 00:41:31,531
then you probably believe
it's real.
809
00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:35,076
If you are the hardânosed,
cynical type,
810
00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:38,871
then you're convinced
it's all nonsense.
811
00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:42,917
But then there is a third type.
812
00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:46,421
The type who has
actually seen Bigfoot
813
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,423
in the furâcovered flesh.
814
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:51,134
For you, Bigfoot is real,
815
00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,928
and your experience
has convinced you
816
00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:55,972
that there is much
about this mysterious creature
817
00:41:56,097 --> 00:42:00,476
that, for now,
remains unexplained.
818
00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:03,646
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