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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,002 --> 00:00:05,130 WILLIAM SHATNER: It hides in the shadows. 2 00:00:05,297 --> 00:00:09,718 A giant, hairy creature that walks on two feet 3 00:00:09,843 --> 00:00:13,597 and watches us with glowing eyes. 4 00:00:14,723 --> 00:00:17,518 Does Bigfoot really exist? 5 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:19,728 Part ape, part man? 6 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:22,773 As crazy as it seems, 7 00:00:22,898 --> 00:00:25,317 there are many who believe that not only 8 00:00:25,484 --> 00:00:29,446 is such a creature real but they've seen it, 9 00:00:29,571 --> 00:00:33,242 tracked it, even photographed it. 10 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:39,081 But then, if Bigfoot does exist, what is it? 11 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:42,334 Where does it come from? How many are there? 12 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:45,462 And perhaps more importantly... 13 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:48,257 (creature snarling) 14 00:00:50,342 --> 00:00:52,970 ...should we be afraid of it? 15 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:58,141 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 16 00:01:17,536 --> 00:01:20,163 Bigfoot researcher Matt Moneymaker and a colleague 17 00:01:20,289 --> 00:01:23,458 are investigating reported Bigfoot sightings 18 00:01:23,542 --> 00:01:26,378 in a wooded area near the town of Kent. 19 00:01:26,503 --> 00:01:29,840 After spending years pursuing Bigfoot 20 00:01:29,965 --> 00:01:32,217 in hopes of seeing one himself, 21 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:34,386 Matt is eager to find out whether there really is 22 00:01:34,511 --> 00:01:37,222 a giant creature in these woods. 23 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,474 MATT MONEYMAKER: We were staked out 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,561 along a road, the guy I was with was about 60 feet away. 25 00:01:44,313 --> 00:01:46,481 And at about 2:30 a. m., 26 00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:49,067 something comes walking down the road. 27 00:01:49,192 --> 00:01:50,986 I see something. 28 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:53,071 He sees it first through night vision. 29 00:01:57,451 --> 00:02:00,329 SHATNER: Matt rushes over to investigate, 30 00:02:00,412 --> 00:02:02,497 and is stopped dead in his tracks by the sound of... 31 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:06,168 ‐(growling) ‐...inhuman growling. 32 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:09,463 MONEYMAKER: This thing steps out. 33 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:14,509 A very big, tall, hair‐covered thing... 34 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:18,555 ...standing out there growling at me. 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,766 When you've got something that big 36 00:02:20,891 --> 00:02:23,101 that close to you, you could see it well enough to know 37 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:24,728 that must be a Bigfoot. 38 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:26,938 So I just kind of backed up 39 00:02:27,022 --> 00:02:28,607 and walked away. 40 00:02:32,027 --> 00:02:33,612 I was pretty happy at that point, 41 00:02:33,737 --> 00:02:36,490 because I'm thinking, "If this one's gonna do that, 42 00:02:36,615 --> 00:02:38,325 "reliably, then this is a place 43 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:40,327 "that we're gonna get some video footage of them 44 00:02:40,494 --> 00:02:42,663 if we're coming here with the right kind of gear." 45 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:45,040 SHATNER: But when Matt returned 46 00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:47,376 with camera equipment to document the encounter, 47 00:02:47,501 --> 00:02:49,586 the creature had vanished. 48 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:51,463 Although Matt was not able to photograph 49 00:02:51,546 --> 00:02:53,674 the large, hairy beast that he witnessed, 50 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:58,762 he remains convinced that what he saw was, in fact, Bigfoot. 51 00:03:00,722 --> 00:03:03,850 It's one of those things that sounds so over‐the‐top, 52 00:03:04,017 --> 00:03:07,145 but after I had a face‐to‐face encounter, 53 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:09,481 I knew it was exactly the same thing 54 00:03:09,648 --> 00:03:13,402 that all the witnesses around there had described. 55 00:03:13,527 --> 00:03:16,279 SHATNER: The encounter inspired Matt 56 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:20,951 to found the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, 57 00:03:21,076 --> 00:03:22,619 or BFRO. 58 00:03:22,744 --> 00:03:27,040 MONEYMAKER: The roots of it are people who were sharing information. 59 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:29,292 We were sharing sighting reports, mainly, 60 00:03:29,376 --> 00:03:30,961 from different parts of the country. 61 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:32,754 And I came up with the idea that, 62 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,173 "Why don't we put all these into a website?" 63 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:38,135 You know, sort it by county and state 64 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:40,595 so people can look up reports. 65 00:03:40,679 --> 00:03:42,639 And when we did that, it worked really well. 66 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:45,434 Lots of people started submitting reports. 67 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,978 SHATNER: According to the BFRO, 68 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:51,481 there have been more than 3,500 credible Bigfoot sightings 69 00:03:51,606 --> 00:03:54,526 since 1960. 70 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:57,362 Although science has yet to prove the existence 71 00:03:57,487 --> 00:04:01,700 of the legendary man‐beast, that hasn't stopped Bigfoot 72 00:04:01,825 --> 00:04:05,328 from becoming a full‐fledged phenomenon. 73 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:09,124 CHRISTOPHER BADER: Bigfoot is literally everywhere. 74 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:11,042 There are Bigfoot stories in Nevada. 75 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:13,503 There are Bigfoot stories in Nebraska, 76 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:16,131 Florida, Texas. 77 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:18,383 Literally every part of the country 78 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:22,137 has its own stories and legends of Bigfoot. 79 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:25,182 It's likely, wherever you live in this country, 80 00:04:25,307 --> 00:04:27,058 you are within a hundred miles of a place 81 00:04:27,184 --> 00:04:28,727 that purportedly has a Bigfoot. 82 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:33,482 SHATNER: If these sightings are of a real creature, 83 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:36,401 then what exactly is Bigfoot? 84 00:04:36,526 --> 00:04:39,696 And how did this phenomenon begin? 85 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:44,701 TOK THOMPSON: Bigfoot is generally reported to be 86 00:04:44,826 --> 00:04:48,705 a very large, very furry, uh, hominid creature. 87 00:04:48,872 --> 00:04:52,626 Something like a person, uh, but not a person, 88 00:04:52,793 --> 00:04:56,213 seen very often remotely in the forest. 89 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:59,466 And with various stories about sightings 90 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:02,928 or about footprints that really are pretty widespread 91 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:06,389 in many, many communities in the United States and in Canada. 92 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:13,939 Before 1958, people didn't use the word "Bigfoot." 93 00:05:15,732 --> 00:05:18,026 But it was in 1958 in Northern California, 94 00:05:18,151 --> 00:05:20,070 guys building a road 95 00:05:20,195 --> 00:05:22,364 found footprints around their gear 96 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:24,282 when they would come back in the morning. 97 00:05:24,366 --> 00:05:27,494 And a guy named Jerry Crew made plaster footprints 98 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:31,414 of these tracks and showed them to a reporter in Eureka, 99 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:34,501 and they dubbed it "Bigfoot." 100 00:05:34,626 --> 00:05:36,586 That was where the name first originated 101 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:39,464 and got into American vocabulary. 102 00:05:40,423 --> 00:05:42,050 SHATNER: Photos of Jerry Crew's cast 103 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:45,929 of giant footprints made headlines across the country. 104 00:05:46,054 --> 00:05:49,724 Many Americans came to believe that a tall, 105 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,061 bipedal, apelike creature roamed the forests 106 00:05:53,186 --> 00:05:55,438 of the Pacific Northwest. 107 00:05:56,565 --> 00:05:59,150 I grew up in Washington State, where it's hard 108 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:01,361 to underestimate Bigfoot's power. 109 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:06,575 Bigfoot is the mascot of different companies. 110 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:11,121 Bigfoot is all over billboards. 111 00:06:11,246 --> 00:06:13,164 As a young boy in Washington State, 112 00:06:13,248 --> 00:06:15,876 I fully believed in Bigfoot's existence. 113 00:06:17,752 --> 00:06:21,423 SHATNER: In 1967, interest in Bigfoot surged 114 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:25,260 when an investigator named Roger Patterson 115 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:28,597 captured incredible footage of a creature 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,433 that matched the description of Bigfoot 117 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:34,853 near Bluff Creek in Northern California. 118 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:39,441 Patterson's film became an instant sensation, 119 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:43,320 but skeptics claimed that it had to be a man 120 00:06:43,445 --> 00:06:45,405 in a monkey suit. 121 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:47,991 One of the issues when it comes to people believing 122 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:50,368 in Bigfoot existing 123 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:54,122 is, let's face it, mainstream sciences 124 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,541 shun away from this topic. 125 00:06:56,666 --> 00:07:00,962 However, amateur researchers are trying to pick up the slack, 126 00:07:01,046 --> 00:07:02,464 bridge that gap 127 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:05,759 between amateur and mainstream science. 128 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:08,428 SHATNER: Bigfoot researchers claim that the vast majority 129 00:07:08,511 --> 00:07:11,139 of Bigfoot sightings are sincere, 130 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:16,144 and that hoaxes represent only a small fraction of reports. 131 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:19,272 They also point out that stories of Bigfoot‐like animals 132 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:22,484 are not merely a recent fad. 133 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:25,779 Believe it or not, more than 3,000 years ago, 134 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:29,324 the ancient Babylonians told stories of a creature 135 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:31,993 that sounds an awful lot like Bigfoot. 136 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:34,537 Except they called it Enkidu. 137 00:07:36,206 --> 00:07:38,500 SARA BURDORFF: Enkidu is a... 138 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:44,214 hairy, wild man creature with super strength, 139 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:47,592 and he's fearsome, he's ready and willing 140 00:07:47,676 --> 00:07:50,428 to defend this wild territory that he inhabits. 141 00:07:50,512 --> 00:07:54,391 The king, Gilgamesh, becomes his soulmate, basically. 142 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:55,517 Best friends. 143 00:07:55,642 --> 00:08:01,189 So, this king becomes this amazing hero 144 00:08:01,356 --> 00:08:05,568 through his relationship with this wild man 145 00:08:05,694 --> 00:08:08,738 that has shown him 146 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:15,078 how to negotiate the boundaries between humanity and wildness. 147 00:08:15,203 --> 00:08:19,249 SHATNER: Since that time, descriptions of so‐called "wild men," 148 00:08:19,374 --> 00:08:20,583 half‐human, half‐ape beasts, 149 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:24,587 have popped up throughout history, all over the world. 150 00:08:24,713 --> 00:08:26,256 JONATHAN YOUNG: In the Caucasus, 151 00:08:26,381 --> 00:08:27,632 there was something called the alma 152 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:30,844 that was a big monster, a nature creature. 153 00:08:32,554 --> 00:08:35,390 In Australia, there's the Aboriginal version 154 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,308 which is called a yowie. 155 00:08:37,392 --> 00:08:40,311 There is the Yeti in the Himalayas. 156 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:42,355 So there are local variations, 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,566 but the story is more or less the same. 158 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:47,527 Very big, seemingly animallike, 159 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,071 or is it human or is it some hybrid? 160 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,239 There's the point. 161 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:53,283 SHATNER: In North America, 162 00:08:53,408 --> 00:08:56,703 there are Native American legends that go back centuries, 163 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:59,330 long before the discoveries made by Jerry Crew 164 00:08:59,456 --> 00:09:01,374 or Roger Patterson. 165 00:09:01,499 --> 00:09:03,543 LYNNE McNEILL: We know that Sasquatch, 166 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:06,755 the preeminent Bigfoot creature that we have 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,966 in the United States, located in the Pacific Northwest, 168 00:09:10,133 --> 00:09:14,804 that very word, "Sasquatch," comes from a Salish tribal word 169 00:09:14,929 --> 00:09:18,975 that means "wild man" or "hairy man." 170 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:23,396 YOUNG: The natives of the Northwest say that there are creatures 171 00:09:23,521 --> 00:09:26,733 that walk upright and only at night. 172 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:30,070 And can speak in their language. 173 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:33,740 NEISS: I found, in speaking with indigenous peoples, 174 00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:37,786 that they don't describe them as an animal at all. 175 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:42,040 They call them the First Ones, or the Old Ones. 176 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:46,628 "These were the tribe that was here before we got here." 177 00:09:50,173 --> 00:09:54,302 SHATNER: An ancient tribe that predates humanity? 178 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,137 It's a fascinating notion, 179 00:09:56,221 --> 00:09:59,933 one that Bigfoot researchers are eager to investigate. 180 00:10:00,016 --> 00:10:03,311 And there are some who will risk going into the deepest 181 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:09,067 and darkest forests to try and capture the huge creature, 182 00:10:09,192 --> 00:10:12,487 even though it may not want to be found. 183 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:14,697 (low growl) 184 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:25,959 SHATNER: Future U. S. President Teddy Roosevelt 185 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,419 publishes The Wilderness Hunter, 186 00:10:28,545 --> 00:10:30,338 a book about his youthful adventures 187 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:33,007 in the Dakota Territory. 188 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,052 His memoir contains a story that was told to him 189 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:39,806 by an old mountain man, who, years before, 190 00:10:39,931 --> 00:10:44,310 had encountered an apelike creature deep in the woods. 191 00:10:45,895 --> 00:10:49,482 There were some trappers and they kept having 192 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:51,651 encounters kind of in the dark 193 00:10:51,734 --> 00:10:55,029 with what they thought were these huge creatures 194 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:58,616 that were leaving huge manlike footprints. 195 00:11:00,243 --> 00:11:03,246 One of the guys decided to go off and check traps, 196 00:11:03,371 --> 00:11:05,790 and the other one would hide back at camp 197 00:11:05,915 --> 00:11:07,709 and see what was coming in every time 198 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:10,670 that they would leave camp. 199 00:11:12,046 --> 00:11:14,549 When the guy came back from checking traps, 200 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:16,301 he found his friend dead, 201 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:19,679 his body broken over a log, 202 00:11:19,804 --> 00:11:22,515 and it looked like it had just been pummeled. 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,475 And they attributed it to 204 00:11:24,601 --> 00:11:26,895 an eight‐foot‐tall, 600‐pound ape. 205 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:32,192 SHATNER: The disturbing encounter recorded by Roosevelt 206 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:35,320 is one of the earliest accounts of American pioneers 207 00:11:35,403 --> 00:11:36,946 coming face‐to‐face 208 00:11:37,071 --> 00:11:39,657 with what many Native Americans called... 209 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:42,160 Sasquatch. 210 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:45,205 If the story is true, 211 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:49,083 it seems like Sasquatch wasn't very friendly 212 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:52,086 towards humans who encroached on its territory. 213 00:11:52,170 --> 00:11:53,838 (low growling) 214 00:11:54,005 --> 00:11:56,466 There are vastly different ideas within the Bigfoot subculture 215 00:11:56,591 --> 00:11:58,384 about Bigfoot's disposition. 216 00:11:58,509 --> 00:12:03,181 Some believe that Bigfoot is an angry, homicidal predator. 217 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:05,808 And if you come into its domain, 218 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:07,810 it will try to kill you if it can. 219 00:12:07,936 --> 00:12:11,231 Others believe that Bigfoot is merely an animal. 220 00:12:11,356 --> 00:12:14,984 And just like a grizzly bear might become aggressive 221 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,820 under the right circumstances, it could. 222 00:12:21,324 --> 00:12:22,951 SHATNER: Over the past century, more 223 00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:24,827 of the American wilderness has been settled, 224 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:27,872 with the construction of new housing, industry, 225 00:12:27,997 --> 00:12:30,250 and infrastructure. 226 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:33,127 But if we have been encroaching on Bigfoot's habitat 227 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:36,839 for so long, then how come no one has ever 228 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:39,801 recovered the body of one? 229 00:12:39,884 --> 00:12:43,137 It's been estimated perhaps 2,000 of these things exist 230 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:44,847 throughout the Pacific Northwest. 231 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:46,849 Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't. 232 00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:50,853 Considering two of the major ranges, 233 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:54,649 the Cascade Range and the Coast Range, 234 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:58,611 make up 68,000 square miles, mostly uninhabited. 235 00:12:58,695 --> 00:13:03,449 When you distribute 2,000 of anything 236 00:13:03,574 --> 00:13:07,120 in 68,000 square miles... 237 00:13:07,203 --> 00:13:10,290 you'd be lucky to run across one in your life. 238 00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:13,918 BADER: People who believe that Bigfoot is 239 00:13:14,002 --> 00:13:15,670 a biological creature will simply 240 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,046 talk about how stealthy it is, 241 00:13:17,171 --> 00:13:19,132 that it's very good at moving 242 00:13:19,257 --> 00:13:21,134 through the woods without making any noise 243 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:24,137 and therefore can slip away at will. 244 00:13:24,262 --> 00:13:28,433 SHATNER: Is Bigfoot simply too elusive to be captured? 245 00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:31,477 Perhaps. 246 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,647 But that hasn't stopped an army 247 00:13:34,731 --> 00:13:36,858 of so‐called "Bigfoot hunters" 248 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:39,944 from trying to track it down. 249 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,613 JEFF MELDRUM: The role of citizen scientists 250 00:13:42,697 --> 00:13:45,658 is potentially a very significant one. 251 00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:48,953 It may well be that major discoveries 252 00:13:49,078 --> 00:13:52,457 will be made not by scientists in this arena, 253 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,917 but by citizen scientists. 254 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:57,462 BADER: Modern Bigfoot hunters 255 00:13:57,587 --> 00:14:00,089 use techniques such as wood knocking... 256 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:01,299 (whoops) 257 00:14:01,382 --> 00:14:04,344 ...playing purported Bigfoot screams while in the woods. 258 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,305 These are things that many modern Bigfoot investigators 259 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:10,516 believe will draw any nearby Sasquatch to you. 260 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:14,354 MONEYMAKER: I think the future of Bigfoot research, 261 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,399 in a lot of ways, rests with new optics with thermal imagers. 262 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,945 And especially with drones, 263 00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:25,615 thermal imagers attached to drones. 264 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:29,369 I really do see a future where the next 265 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:31,496 big, profound piece of footage 266 00:14:31,621 --> 00:14:33,664 is gonna be gotten by a drone. 267 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:36,501 BADER: Many Bigfoot hunters 268 00:14:36,626 --> 00:14:38,795 are very much devoted to the idea 269 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,588 that the creature that they're looking for 270 00:14:40,713 --> 00:14:42,298 is an undiscovered animal. 271 00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:44,967 They believe that if they try hard enough, 272 00:14:45,093 --> 00:14:47,136 they could capture sufficient evidence 273 00:14:47,261 --> 00:14:48,888 to prove the issue once and for all. 274 00:14:49,013 --> 00:14:51,182 SHATNER: Bigfoot hunters have set their sights 275 00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:53,810 on catching the beast itself. 276 00:14:53,935 --> 00:14:56,729 But the most compelling pieces of evidence 277 00:14:56,854 --> 00:14:59,649 that we have right now are the huge footprints 278 00:14:59,774 --> 00:15:02,151 that have been found for decades. 279 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:05,696 And according to anthropologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum, 280 00:15:05,822 --> 00:15:07,949 these impressions in the ground 281 00:15:08,032 --> 00:15:10,743 prove that there really is 282 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,329 an enormous primate roaming the forest. 283 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:17,125 MELDRUM: My research expertise centers around 284 00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:20,086 the adaptations of the human body 285 00:15:20,169 --> 00:15:23,840 for bipedalism‐‐ the habit of walking on two legs. 286 00:15:24,882 --> 00:15:28,136 So that put me in a very apropos position 287 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:31,139 to address what is probably 288 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:33,224 the most prolific and, in my opinion, 289 00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:35,852 by far the most compelling body of evidence 290 00:15:36,018 --> 00:15:38,688 for the existence of Sasquatch, 291 00:15:38,813 --> 00:15:40,982 namely the footprints. 292 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:45,319 SHATNER: Dr. Meldrum's interest in Bigfoot footprints started 293 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:48,906 in 1996 when he and a colleague came across 294 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:51,659 a remarkable line of footprints 295 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:55,163 in Southeastern Washington. 296 00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:58,749 As we walk out there, here's this unmistakable line 297 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:01,335 of footprints in the mud, 298 00:16:01,502 --> 00:16:04,172 these 15‐inch footprints, 299 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:07,800 and the hair stood up on the back of my neck 300 00:16:07,925 --> 00:16:09,802 as I realized a Sasquatch actually 301 00:16:09,927 --> 00:16:11,971 walked by here last night. 302 00:16:12,054 --> 00:16:14,474 The evidence was really unmistakable to my eye 303 00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:17,143 with my background and training. 304 00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:20,146 SHATNER: Dr. Meldrum immediately made 305 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:22,482 several casts of the intriguing footprints. 306 00:16:22,607 --> 00:16:24,317 The first of many such casts 307 00:16:24,442 --> 00:16:26,944 that he has made throughout his career. 308 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:29,739 Based off his research, 309 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:33,493 he has concluded that by analyzing a variety of factors, 310 00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:37,205 such as how the foot imprints irregularities into the ground 311 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:40,708 or the spacing of the toes in the dirt, 312 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:43,961 it is possible to determine when footprints have been faked 313 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:48,466 and when they were really made by a 15‐inch foot. 314 00:16:51,052 --> 00:16:53,638 So here we are over 20 years later, and 315 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:56,641 in addition to the seven footprint 316 00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:59,227 casts that I made on that afternoon, 317 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:02,480 there are over 300 casts to keep them company here 318 00:17:02,563 --> 00:17:04,899 in the specimen drawers in my laboratory. 319 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,776 It's just been an amazing road 320 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:11,822 that has yielded, due to this extraordinary sample, 321 00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,325 the emergence of a model of a foot 322 00:17:14,492 --> 00:17:17,495 that is not simply an enlarged facsimile 323 00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:20,373 of a human footprint but rather shows 324 00:17:20,498 --> 00:17:23,626 all the distinctions of a foot adapted 325 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:26,963 to transport a 800‐to‐1,200‐pound 326 00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:28,506 bipedal primate 327 00:17:28,631 --> 00:17:32,301 through the rough, irregular, incline terrain 328 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,095 of the mountainous forests 329 00:17:34,178 --> 00:17:37,098 they are said to inhabit. 330 00:17:37,181 --> 00:17:39,934 SHATNER: If Bigfoot is making 331 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:42,311 giant footprints in the forest, 332 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,814 then is it a creature that can be explained 333 00:17:44,939 --> 00:17:46,649 by conventional science? 334 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:50,152 Bigfoot researchers believe the answer is yes. 335 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:54,156 And they claim that Bigfoot is an animal... 336 00:17:54,282 --> 00:17:57,034 that has already been found. 337 00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:12,133 SHATNER: Explorer Robert von Beringe is leading an expedition 338 00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:14,552 up Mount Sabyinyo 339 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:17,263 when he comes upon a troop of gorillas. 340 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:19,557 Which is extraordinary, because according 341 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:22,852 to mainstream scientists at the time, gorillas aren't 342 00:18:22,977 --> 00:18:24,687 supposed to live in the mountains. 343 00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,857 BADER: For years, when reports came out 344 00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:29,859 about mountain gorillas, people said, 345 00:18:29,984 --> 00:18:31,736 "They're lying, they're hoaxers," 346 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:34,447 until we finally had specimens. 347 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:36,449 (gorilla hooting) 348 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,577 And now the mountain gorilla are part 349 00:18:39,702 --> 00:18:42,038 of the public and historical record. 350 00:18:42,204 --> 00:18:44,040 MELDRUM: The discovery of the gorilla 351 00:18:44,165 --> 00:18:46,125 is actually a very good example 352 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,669 of the manner in which 353 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:52,173 the existence of an unknown primate species 354 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:56,302 was eventually recognized by Western science. 355 00:18:56,427 --> 00:18:59,889 And science requires a type specimen 356 00:19:00,014 --> 00:19:02,475 in order to justify 357 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,144 the recognition of a novel species. 358 00:19:06,062 --> 00:19:08,230 SHATNER: For Bigfoot researchers, the discovery 359 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:10,316 of the mountain gorilla is an example 360 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:12,860 of how the assumptions of mainstream scientists 361 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:14,737 are not always correct. 362 00:19:14,862 --> 00:19:18,240 And they argue that if the mountain gorilla survived 363 00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:21,911 in the African mountains, unrecognized by science 364 00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:26,666 until 1902, that it's possible that Bigfoot 365 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:30,419 is alive in the vast forests of North America. 366 00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:33,339 It just hasn't been verified yet. 367 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:37,426 But is Bigfoot really an unknown creature? 368 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,637 Or is it simply another name for a creature 369 00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:42,640 we've known about for decades? 370 00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:46,519 There's various theories as to what this type of primate is. 371 00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:50,606 But it most likely is related to this line of apes 372 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,609 out of Southeast Asia, the most famous of which was called 373 00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:57,613 Gigantopithecus, the largest apes that ever lived. 374 00:19:57,697 --> 00:20:00,866 MELDRUM: Gigantopithecus was a species that existed 375 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:05,830 during the late Pleistocene, perhaps until as recently as 376 00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:07,998 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, 377 00:20:08,124 --> 00:20:09,959 according to the fossil record. 378 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:14,630 It was a giant primate of literally King Kong proportions 379 00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:19,135 that could have stood ten feet tall and weighed in excess 380 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,679 of a thousand, 1,200 pounds. 381 00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:25,307 SHATNER: The theory that what we call "Bigfoot" is actually 382 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:28,686 Gigantopithecus has profound implications. 383 00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:32,690 If true, it would mean that the existence of Bigfoot 384 00:20:32,815 --> 00:20:35,651 has already been scientifically verified. 385 00:20:35,818 --> 00:20:37,570 There's just one problem. 386 00:20:37,695 --> 00:20:41,157 According to paleontologists, Gigantopithecus became extinct 387 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:44,660 a long time ago. 388 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:48,205 MELDRUM: Gigantopithecus has often been characterized 389 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:52,126 as a creature that fed exclusively on bamboo 390 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:54,128 and, hence, went extinct when those bamboo forests 391 00:20:54,295 --> 00:20:56,255 also expired. 392 00:20:56,338 --> 00:21:00,426 But much more insightful analyses 393 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:02,803 of the fossilized teeth of Gigantopithecus 394 00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:06,807 suggests that it had a diet that was quite diverse. 395 00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:09,810 Which is quite interesting, to have an animal that size 396 00:21:09,894 --> 00:21:13,147 that still had a very diverse, omnivorous diet. 397 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,816 SHATNER: But even if Gigantopithecus 398 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:20,654 has somehow survived into the present, questions remain. 399 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,074 Such as, how did such a large creature migrate 400 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,202 from the bamboo forests of Southeast Asia 401 00:21:26,327 --> 00:21:29,955 all the way to North America? 402 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:32,750 If Bigfoots are descendants of Gigantopithecus, 403 00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:34,126 or a line of apes like it, 404 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:37,213 they probably came over the land bridge 405 00:21:37,338 --> 00:21:39,340 the same way that Native Americans did, 406 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:42,259 back when Siberia and Alaska were connected 407 00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:44,929 and all sorts of animals were able to cross over 408 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:46,138 the Bering Strait. 409 00:21:46,263 --> 00:21:49,350 SHATNER: Bigfoot researchers are steadfast 410 00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:53,270 in their support of the Gigantopithecus theory. 411 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:57,483 But most experts reject the idea due to lack of evidence. 412 00:21:57,566 --> 00:22:01,153 But what if the evidence does exist, 413 00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:03,239 and scientists simply aren't looking for it 414 00:22:03,364 --> 00:22:05,533 in the right places? 415 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:13,666 Naturalist John Mionczynski is spending the summer 416 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:16,001 working for the U. S. Forest Service. 417 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:20,047 I was employed by the U. S. Forest Service 418 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,258 and the Wyoming Game and Fish Department 419 00:22:22,383 --> 00:22:24,301 on a cooperative study. 420 00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:28,681 The project was set up so that I would live in the wild. 421 00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:31,559 ‐(owl hooting) ‐SHATNER: Late one night, 422 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:34,687 John feels what he thinks is a large bear 423 00:22:34,812 --> 00:22:38,816 pressing against the outside of his tent. 424 00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:44,697 I was approached by something that cast a shadow. 425 00:22:44,822 --> 00:22:47,575 The Moon was just coming up, it was almost a full moon. 426 00:22:48,951 --> 00:22:52,288 I clearly saw a hand with four fingers 427 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:54,915 and an opposed thumb, like a human hand. 428 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,709 And it was large. 429 00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,627 It was twice the size of my hand. 430 00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:01,839 It was getting aggressive with its movements 431 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:04,049 on the side of the tent. 432 00:23:04,174 --> 00:23:05,634 I hit it with the back of my hand. 433 00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:07,928 (growling) 434 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:11,682 Whatever it was had backed off. 435 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:15,144 It ran back behind some trees. 436 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:17,271 So I was totally perplexed. 437 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:19,607 I have to say that, the thought of Sasquatch 438 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:22,109 never occurred to me at that moment. 439 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:25,821 SHATNER: When John reported the encounter to the Forest Service, 440 00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:30,034 he learned that there had been a rash of similar reports. 441 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,619 His boss, afraid the sightings 442 00:23:31,702 --> 00:23:33,495 might be the work of a prankster, 443 00:23:33,621 --> 00:23:36,665 asked him to investigate and interview the witnesses. 444 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,834 MIONCZYNSKI: I eventually interviewed 445 00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:40,628 about 25 people. 446 00:23:40,711 --> 00:23:45,591 The most interesting one was a young man 447 00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:47,801 in a little cabin up against the mountains. 448 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:48,802 (creature growls) 449 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,471 He had reported 450 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:53,474 seeing one of these behaving aggressively 451 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:54,975 in front of his cabin. 452 00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:58,729 And he shot it. 453 00:24:01,732 --> 00:24:03,150 And he'd thought he'd killed it, 454 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,736 but it got up immediately and ran off. 455 00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:09,031 SHATNER: John visited the cabin and, incredibly, 456 00:24:09,156 --> 00:24:12,660 found that there were hair samples left near the house. 457 00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:15,829 He collected the hairs and brought them 458 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:19,375 to Walter Birkby, a well‐known forensic anthropologist 459 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:23,253 and leading expert on hair analysis. 460 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:26,799 The analysis came back a few days later 461 00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:30,803 and Walter Birkby said, and this is a quote, 462 00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:34,640 "This is my first stumper. These hairs are primate." 463 00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:37,810 And he was certain about that. 464 00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:42,314 The result was controversial because a hairy primate 465 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:46,652 is not of an animal native to Wyoming. 466 00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:50,489 That kind of suggested the idea of Bigfoot. 467 00:24:50,614 --> 00:24:54,576 SHATNER: Solid, physical evidence of a primate in Wyoming? 468 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:56,745 You might think that the scientific community 469 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,373 would be thrilled by such a discovery. 470 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:02,084 But John quickly realized the perils 471 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:04,795 of making that assumption. 472 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,880 MIONCZYNSKI: The head of the research division 473 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,133 actually chewed us out. 474 00:25:09,258 --> 00:25:11,135 Pointing his finger at us and saying, 475 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:12,803 "If your names are ever associated 476 00:25:12,928 --> 00:25:14,888 "with this word Bigfoot again, 477 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:17,975 I will personally see to it that you're fired." 478 00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:20,561 (low growl) 479 00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:23,605 If hard evidence of Bigfoot really exists, 480 00:25:23,689 --> 00:25:27,234 then why are scientists so eager to dismiss it? 481 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,778 Maybe it's safer to think 482 00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:35,743 that it's all just a delusion or a hoax. 483 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:40,497 Or perhaps Bigfoot doesn't fit into their preconceived notions 484 00:25:40,581 --> 00:25:42,708 of the world. 485 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,711 In any case, some evidence is difficult, 486 00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:50,215 if not downright impossible, to ignore, 487 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,259 as you shall see. 488 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:03,353 SHATNER: Researcher Robert Collier 489 00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:05,439 is leading a Bigfoot expedition 490 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,650 in a remote part of the wilderness. 491 00:26:08,776 --> 00:26:12,154 COLLIER: It was about dusk, getting a little bit darker. 492 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:16,075 And all of a sudden we hear these horrendous footsteps. 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,748 As we looked in front of us, what we saw had two legs. 494 00:26:24,875 --> 00:26:28,045 And it looked like the conical shaped head, 495 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:30,547 the broad shoulders. 496 00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:32,508 And it's sitting right there. I'm looking at it. 497 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,969 SHATNER: Robert and his companions were astonished 498 00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:39,515 by the two‐legged creature moving near them. 499 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,350 But what happened next was even more extraordinary. 500 00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:44,061 COLLIER: Soon as that happened, 501 00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:47,397 it was like somebody had parked their car down there 502 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:49,608 and turned on headlights. 503 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,485 Lit up the whole area. 504 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,779 And I remember looking at that 505 00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:58,200 and the lights stayed on, one, two, 506 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,452 three, off. 507 00:27:00,536 --> 00:27:02,663 Then it just went silent. 508 00:27:02,746 --> 00:27:05,165 But we were in such shock and pure amazement 509 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:06,959 from that, from that sighting. 510 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,798 SHATNER: A sudden, brilliant illumination deep in the forest? 511 00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:15,634 Just before the mysterious creature Robert saw 512 00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:17,803 seemingly disappeared? 513 00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:23,433 While it may sound like a fantastical story, 514 00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:27,229 this wasn't the last time Robert observed 515 00:27:27,354 --> 00:27:30,524 such a strange occurrence. 516 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,234 COLLIER: This last expedition, 517 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,111 I experienced more lights. 518 00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:37,614 We had some activity one night and I remember, 519 00:27:37,698 --> 00:27:39,783 at one point, Bigfoot turned its body 520 00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:40,909 and it looked back at me. 521 00:27:41,034 --> 00:27:42,828 And then this blue light‐‐ 522 00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:44,746 it was a blue streak through the forest‐‐ 523 00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:46,665 and it shot off to the right. 524 00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,500 I still can't wrap my head around it. 525 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,878 But still other people experience that 526 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,963 and they're seeing the same things. 527 00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:55,632 People are starting to see these white orbs. 528 00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:58,802 The blue lights, the streaks. 529 00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:01,054 So, there's the common denominator in there. 530 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:04,850 SHATNER: Robert and others who have seen these inexplicable lights 531 00:28:04,975 --> 00:28:06,643 may not have all the answers. 532 00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:09,313 However, the phenomenon 533 00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:13,984 suggests an intriguing possibility. 534 00:28:14,151 --> 00:28:18,155 You see, most researchers speculate that Bigfoot could be 535 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,616 some form of ape and man 536 00:28:20,741 --> 00:28:22,743 or a mix of both. 537 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,703 But what if those theories are missing the target? 538 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:27,664 If Bigfoot is real, 539 00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:29,833 could it be totally different 540 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,586 from any kind of creature that we're familiar with? 541 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:35,297 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining 542 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:39,718 one of the most notorious Bigfoot encounters in history. 543 00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:50,145 Gold prospector Fred Beck and some miners are working 544 00:28:50,229 --> 00:28:53,523 on a claim not far from Mount St. Helens, 545 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:57,152 when they hear a bizarre noise. 546 00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:58,487 BADER: Fred and one of his friends 547 00:28:58,612 --> 00:29:00,197 heard strange whistling sounds 548 00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:02,532 and all of a sudden saw a hairy creature 549 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,660 peek its head out from behind a tree. 550 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,119 The men instantly pulled out their guns 551 00:29:06,203 --> 00:29:07,704 and started shooting at the creature... 552 00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:13,794 ...which howled and screamed as it ran away. 553 00:29:13,877 --> 00:29:17,798 And this attack on the creature seemed to provoke it, 554 00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:19,091 because that evening 555 00:29:19,174 --> 00:29:22,803 Fred and his friends in their cabin were assaulted 556 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:26,306 by what seemed to be a group of Sasquatch, or Bigfeet. 557 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,101 They heard pounding on the roof. 558 00:29:31,728 --> 00:29:35,983 Fred described the creatures as tall and hairy, 559 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:39,152 having apelike faces and being entirely hair‐covered, 560 00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:41,321 and between six to eight feet tall, 561 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:42,823 running around on two legs. 562 00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:45,033 SHATNER: The men soon realized that the cabin 563 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:48,662 would not necessarily protect them from their attackers, 564 00:29:48,787 --> 00:29:51,039 because the creatures bombarded the cabin 565 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:53,500 with huge rocks from the cliffs above 566 00:29:53,667 --> 00:29:56,962 and then tried to get inside. 567 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:59,881 BADER: In one especially terrifying part of the story, 568 00:30:00,007 --> 00:30:01,174 a creature reached its hand through the cabin 569 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:04,469 and tried to grab an ax, but Fred grabbed 570 00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:06,847 the head of the ax and turned it 571 00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:09,016 so the creature couldn't pull it through. 572 00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:13,770 The next morning, as it neared daylight, 573 00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:15,897 the attacks finally stopped. 574 00:30:16,023 --> 00:30:19,276 And Fred and his friends decided to make their escape. 575 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,946 And this story made its way into the papers. 576 00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:27,117 And ever since then, this area has been known as Ape Canyon. 577 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,748 SHATNER: For some, the so‐called Ape Canyon Incident 578 00:30:32,873 --> 00:30:35,167 proves that Bigfoot possesses intelligence 579 00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:40,130 that exceeds that of any known animal and rivals our own. 580 00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:44,843 But to others, the incident suggests something 581 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:47,054 much more incredible. 582 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:49,598 BADER: If you actually look back 583 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:53,143 to Fred Beck's own works, he did not think these creatures 584 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:55,729 were actually undiscovered animals. 585 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,773 He thought they were spiritual entities 586 00:30:57,898 --> 00:30:59,316 from another plane of existence. 587 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:02,277 He claimed they would find a footprint track 588 00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,404 that would suddenly end in the middle of a sandbar, 589 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:06,323 suggesting that a creature had just simply disappeared 590 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,617 as it was walking. 591 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,287 So, from his perspective, this was not an undiscovered ape. 592 00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:15,082 It was a mystical creature from another dimension. 593 00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:19,044 SHATNER: A mystical creature from another dimension? 594 00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:22,631 But how is such a thing possible? 595 00:31:22,798 --> 00:31:25,467 And doesn't that theory contradict 596 00:31:25,634 --> 00:31:29,137 mainstream Bigfoot research? 597 00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:32,140 BADER: The idea that Bigfoot might be able to disappear 598 00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:34,559 into another dimension, that is very threatening 599 00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:37,729 to that view that it's simply an undiscovered animal. 600 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:40,816 And, in fact, people oftentimes make fun of Bigfoot hunters 601 00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:42,484 and say, "You're just like ghost hunters, 602 00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:44,319 you're just like people who see fairies and demons." 603 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:48,407 And when you add paranormal elements to a Bigfoot story, 604 00:31:48,532 --> 00:31:50,242 you open them up for that very criticism 605 00:31:50,367 --> 00:31:51,451 that bothers them so much. 606 00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:53,954 THOMPSON: Most of the contemporary traditions 607 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:55,747 assign Bigfoot or Sasquatch 608 00:31:55,872 --> 00:31:57,082 to the natural world. 609 00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:59,709 In other words, it's not a supernatural character. 610 00:31:59,835 --> 00:32:01,253 Most of the native traditions 611 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:02,963 would be more of the spiritual world 612 00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:04,965 or more of the supernatural world. 613 00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:07,092 That this figure is more than simply 614 00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:08,969 a large hominid living out there. 615 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:12,931 They've ascribed, uh, some powers to them, 616 00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:14,599 spiritual powers. 617 00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:18,311 They can change into different things at times, 618 00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:23,024 which aids in their ability to seem to vanish on location. 619 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:24,818 Uh, shapeshifters, if you will. 620 00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:27,070 And so they have 621 00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,240 a whole different respect for them, spiritually. 622 00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:36,163 Does Bigfoot really have mystical powers? 623 00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,791 And could this fantastical notion 624 00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:42,043 help to explain things about Bigfoot 625 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:47,090 that have, up till now, stumped researchers? 626 00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:49,968 There are those who believe that the answer is yes‐‐ 627 00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:51,511 and that one big reason 628 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,222 why Bigfoot has otherworldly abilities 629 00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:58,226 is because he really is from another world. 630 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:12,782 SHATNER: Bigfoot researcher Joe Fex visits a rural Appalachian farm 631 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:14,743 owned by a woman who claims 632 00:33:14,868 --> 00:33:16,286 that she has encountered Bigfoot 633 00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:19,122 not once, not twice, but many times 634 00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:21,124 over a period of years. 635 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,878 FEX: Janice Carter Coy claimed 636 00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,922 Bigfoot would come down the mountain, 637 00:33:27,047 --> 00:33:29,633 visit this barn that was about two miles away, 638 00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:33,303 and that they would come visit her grandfather's farm. 639 00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:35,722 SHATNER: Eager to find out 640 00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:38,141 whether Janice's incredible story could be true, 641 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:43,230 Joe decided to do a nighttime stakeout on her farm. 642 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:48,193 That night, Joe and Janice were sitting around a firepit 643 00:33:48,318 --> 00:33:53,240 when Joe noticed something... strange. 644 00:33:53,365 --> 00:33:55,075 FEX: As we're talking, 645 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,745 I see between these barn structures 646 00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:03,959 two very bright, very vivid lime green lights. 647 00:34:04,084 --> 00:34:07,212 And they're floating across this open area 648 00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:08,672 between these structures. 649 00:34:08,797 --> 00:34:09,798 I thought, 650 00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:12,050 "Wow, Tennessee has got some pretty extremely large 651 00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,885 lightning bugs out here." 652 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:15,720 SHATNER: But the green lights 653 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:16,888 started to come closer to him 654 00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:20,684 and Joe realized that what he thought were fireflies... 655 00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:23,687 were actually glowing eyes. 656 00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:24,854 FEX: I could see 657 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:28,692 the structure of a very large, 658 00:34:28,858 --> 00:34:31,278 long‐haired, shaggy‐‐ 659 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:33,363 what looked like a very muscular ape. 660 00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:35,615 And I looked over at Janice 661 00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:37,701 and she's just looking at me with this grin. 662 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:38,952 And she says, 663 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:42,497 "He wants to know if you're going to go back to Colorado 664 00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:44,833 and tell people you saw fireflies." 665 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:46,459 How Janice would even know that 666 00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:48,336 that thought even entered my head, 667 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:50,755 brief as that thought was, 668 00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:52,215 I really have no idea. 669 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,301 SHATNER Joe was astonished to see 670 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,094 that Janice seemed to be able 671 00:34:56,177 --> 00:34:57,095 to mentally communicate with the creature... 672 00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,806 which was somehow reading his mind, too. 673 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:04,019 Janice said, "He wants you to come back to the ditch line. 674 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,646 He wants to see you. He wants you to see him." 675 00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:08,648 And I thought, "Oh, this is insane." 676 00:35:08,732 --> 00:35:11,359 But she gives me this big flashlight. 677 00:35:11,526 --> 00:35:13,486 So I started walking over there 678 00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:15,989 and back out behind the house, 679 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,825 and I pointed the light forward. 680 00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:20,994 And here, in this open area, 681 00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:22,495 stood this guy that had to be 682 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,372 about eight or nine feet tall. 683 00:35:24,497 --> 00:35:26,333 I've never heard or seen anything like it 684 00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:27,792 in my entire life. 685 00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,504 SHATNER: You'd think that after standing toe to toe with Bigfoot, 686 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:35,800 Joe would remember everything about such an encounter. 687 00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:39,846 But as it turns out, Joe's memory is a little fuzzy. 688 00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:44,059 I don't know what happened at the tail end of that. 689 00:35:44,184 --> 00:35:46,227 I just remember standing 690 00:35:46,353 --> 00:35:48,229 back at the camp, talking with Janice. 691 00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:49,522 I don't remember walking away. 692 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:52,484 I don't remember... how did that end? 693 00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:55,820 Which is, to me‐‐ even now, all these years later‐‐ 694 00:35:55,904 --> 00:35:57,656 is really bizarre. 695 00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:59,991 SHATNER: To many observers, 696 00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:03,370 Joe's description of Bigfoot sounds less like a primate 697 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:06,706 and more like something... paranormal. 698 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:09,584 BADER: Joe Fex's story actually 699 00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:12,796 sounds a lot like a UFO abduction account to me. 700 00:36:12,921 --> 00:36:15,548 When you claim that there's some period of time 701 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:17,634 that you simply cannot account for... 702 00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,470 In alien abduction lore, this is called "missing time," 703 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:23,181 and it's believed that the aliens will erase your memory 704 00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:25,141 for a certain period of the encounter. 705 00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:27,769 There are other stories within the Bigfoot realm 706 00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:30,146 where people claim to have had encounters with UFOs 707 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,898 or even had an abduction. 708 00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:37,445 SHATNER: Could Bigfoot actually be an extraterrestrial? 709 00:36:38,488 --> 00:36:41,658 Some Bigfoot researchers would argue the answer is yes, 710 00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,160 and that the strongest evidence lies not in what happened 711 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:46,996 during Joe's Bigfoot encounter 712 00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:48,915 but what happened after. 713 00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:54,713 FEX: Two weeks later, at maybe 10:30, 11:00 in the morning. 714 00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:56,005 I go into the shower 715 00:36:56,131 --> 00:36:57,549 and I come back out of the shower, 716 00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,134 uh, dry off real quick, 717 00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:01,052 relax for a minute. 718 00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:03,012 I have a cup of coffee. 719 00:37:03,138 --> 00:37:05,181 I unconsciously reached back here 720 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,559 and I could feel something. 721 00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:11,062 I realized there was a relatively deep hole 722 00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:13,022 that I could fit my pinky into. 723 00:37:13,148 --> 00:37:15,316 It didn't feel like a wound. 724 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:16,651 It felt perfectly fine. 725 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:19,446 It didn't hurt at all. There was no sensation. 726 00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:23,199 SHATNER: An inexplicable hole in your head 727 00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,411 isn't something that's easy to understand. 728 00:37:26,536 --> 00:37:30,373 But after considering every possibility, 729 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:34,586 Joe recognized that what happened to him was bizarre 730 00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:37,297 but not exactly unheard of. 731 00:37:37,422 --> 00:37:40,175 All of these things are extremely familiar 732 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:41,760 in the field of UFOs 733 00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:45,346 and the subfield of UFO abductions. 734 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,850 They have similarities in their patterns of behavior, 735 00:37:49,017 --> 00:37:52,353 similarities in the environment and the circumstances, 736 00:37:52,479 --> 00:37:55,190 similarities in the side effects. 737 00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:57,650 I don't know if these things are related, 738 00:37:57,734 --> 00:37:59,611 but there is a correlation. 739 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:04,282 SHATNER: Joe Fex may not have any definitive answers 740 00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:07,327 about Bigfoot or about his experience. 741 00:38:07,452 --> 00:38:09,537 But what he does have 742 00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,790 are some intriguing possibilities to consider, 743 00:38:11,873 --> 00:38:15,210 thanks to the information that he has exchanged 744 00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:17,754 with other Bigfoot researchers. 745 00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:21,633 And there are some who believe that this kind of cooperation 746 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:26,012 will finally prove that Bigfoot is real. 747 00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:33,645 SHATNER: The Oregon Coast Mountain Range. 748 00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:37,941 Here, not far from the shore of the Pacific Ocean, 749 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,945 lies a densely wooded area that, once a year, 750 00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:44,697 is the site of an invitation‐only conference 751 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:48,785 attended by international experts in their field. 752 00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:51,329 It's called... 753 00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:54,165 Beachfoot. 754 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:56,209 NEISS: It was in 2003 755 00:38:56,334 --> 00:38:58,294 that I had this thought, 756 00:38:58,419 --> 00:39:00,463 "You know, what would happen if you could get 757 00:39:00,547 --> 00:39:02,799 "all of these well‐known researchers 758 00:39:02,924 --> 00:39:06,469 locked in the same room at the same time?" 759 00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:10,139 The amount of brain trust there would be amazing. 760 00:39:10,265 --> 00:39:13,309 MIONCZYNSKI: The Beachfoot gatherings, 761 00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,145 where scientists get to discuss openly 762 00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:18,398 their research and findings 763 00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:19,649 concerning Bigfoot... 764 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:22,694 I think it's a very important step 765 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:26,364 which will open up the subject 766 00:39:26,531 --> 00:39:28,950 to other scientists who are interested 767 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:30,743 in studying this kind of phenomenon. 768 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,705 MELDRUM: One of my most enjoyable activities 769 00:39:33,830 --> 00:39:35,373 at such an event is, sometimes 770 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:38,793 I teach a workshop on "Tracking 101." 771 00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:42,964 Those are opportunities where non‐academics, 772 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:47,510 non‐PhDs, can strive to emulate the scientific method 773 00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:49,804 in their own search 774 00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:52,765 for the evidence they presume to find. 775 00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:55,643 SHATNER: Gatherings like Beachfoot 776 00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:59,022 prove that the legend of Bigfoot is alive and well. 777 00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,232 But how is that possible 778 00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:04,861 when no conclusive evidence of Bigfoot has ever been found? 779 00:40:06,571 --> 00:40:11,200 What drives our interest in this enduring mystery? 780 00:40:11,326 --> 00:40:12,994 The reason I believe 781 00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:15,538 that the Sasquatch subject has such staying power 782 00:40:15,663 --> 00:40:19,000 is that there's so many witnesses out there. 783 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,794 There's many parts of the country where, if you go 784 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,588 and ask people if they've ever seen one, 785 00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,673 so often you'll hear, 786 00:40:25,798 --> 00:40:28,343 "No, I haven't, but I know somebody who has." 787 00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,345 So, there's many people out there 788 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:32,972 who at least know someone they trust 789 00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:35,516 who has told them that they've seen these things. 790 00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,477 And that has had the effect of changing 791 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,395 people's opinion about the subject 792 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,941 of what would otherwise be just total skepticism everywhere. 793 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:47,570 BURDORFF: Bigfoot matters because 794 00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:51,407 it would be tangible proof of a solved mystery. 795 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,868 Finding a real Bigfoot, 796 00:40:54,035 --> 00:40:55,328 a real creature, 797 00:40:55,411 --> 00:40:59,290 would be like discovering 798 00:40:59,374 --> 00:41:01,709 another piece of the world. 799 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:06,047 And it's... it's us reaching for another piece 800 00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:07,966 of that unknown 801 00:41:08,049 --> 00:41:10,218 that's always just beyond our reach. 802 00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:15,390 So, now, what do you think? Huh? 803 00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:17,100 Is Bigfoot real, 804 00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:20,937 or is it all just part of an elaborate hoax? 805 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,690 I guess that depends on what kind of a person you are. 806 00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:26,609 If you're the open‐minded type 807 00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,278 who believes that the world is filled with wonder, 808 00:41:29,404 --> 00:41:31,531 then you probably believe it's real. 809 00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:35,076 If you are the hard‐nosed, cynical type, 810 00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:38,871 then you're convinced it's all nonsense. 811 00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:42,917 But then there is a third type. 812 00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:46,421 The type who has actually seen Bigfoot 813 00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,423 in the fur‐covered flesh. 814 00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:51,134 For you, Bigfoot is real, 815 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,928 and your experience has convinced you 816 00:41:54,012 --> 00:41:55,972 that there is much about this mysterious creature 817 00:41:56,097 --> 00:42:00,476 that, for now, remains unexplained. 818 00:42:00,601 --> 00:42:03,646 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 64793

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