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WILLIAM SHATNER:
Atlantis, a legendary utopia,
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and a model for urban
efficiency.
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The city of the future.
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And then one day it was gone.
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According to the ancient
Greek philosopher Plato,
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it was the glittering capital
of an advanced civilization,
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and then, suddenly, it vanished
from the face of the earth.
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Some believe it was
destroyed by an earthquake,
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others are convinced that
it sunk into the sea.
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And then there are those
who believe
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it rose up off the ground
and went...
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But was it only a myth?
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Or did the soâcalled lost
continent of Atlantis
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really exist?
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Well, that is what we'll try
and find out.
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âȘ âȘ
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SHATNER:
Within this modern city
stands the ruins of a citadel
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that was once the center
of ancient Greece.
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The ancient Greek civilization
lasted
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for more than three centuries.
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The Greeks developed
a sophisticated culture,
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which had a profound impact
on Western politics,
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science and philosophy.
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One of the best known
Greek philosophers was Plato,
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who wrote more than 20
important philosophical texts,
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known as "dialogues."
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RIC RADER:
Plato was doing his
major writing
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in the fourth century BCE.
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And Plato's works are
very serious,
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very sober philosophical
reflections
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on major, major questions.
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He is really the most
important philosopher
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in the Western world.
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RICHARD FREUND: For most
of Western civilization,
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Plato is the basis for
our thinking and philosophy.
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But he's also partially
historian.
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And his work is still used
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in order to identify
the way life was in antiquity.
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SHATNER:
Of all the influential writings
of Plato,
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the one that is perhaps
the most fascinating
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and the most mysterious
is his account
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of a lost civilization
that existed centuries before
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the rise of ancient Greece...
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Atlantis.
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Atlantis is a very important
story in Western imagination.
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In the year 359 before
the Common Era,
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Plato, the great philosopher,
told a story
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about a continent,
a large island,
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out in the Atlantic Ocean,
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and it became
a very powerful nation.
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It was home to
a fabulous civilization
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that began as the byword
for justice and compassion.
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It had a huge navy
that it used to travel
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from place to place
around the Mediterranean.
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ANDREW COLLINS:
Plato tells us in his dialogues
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that the information came from
a famous statesman
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who visited Egypt
by the name of Solon
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a few centuries before.
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SHATNER:
Plato wrote that Solon
traveled to northern Egypt
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and entered a sacred temple
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dedicated to the Egyptian
goddess Neith.
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Within the temple was a column
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completely covered with
hieroglyphics
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on which the history
of Atlantis was recorded.
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Egyptian priests told Solon
the story of
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this lost civilization,
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which predated the Egyptians
themselves.
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The Egyptians would recount
the story of Atlantis
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as a major, major part of where
their civilization came from,
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where they got a lot
of their knowledge.
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This was a very advanced
and technological civilization.
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And Plato is reporting this
as a very, very important story
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for the ancient Egyptians.
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Pretty much like the next day
after Plato writes this,
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people start debating
whether or not it was true.
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Did Plato mean this
as a fictional story,
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or was Plato talking about
a historical occurrence?
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SHATNER:
While it may sound like
the stuff of fantasy,
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in his dialogues
Timaeus and Critias,
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Plato provides a wealth
of detail
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about what many believe
was a very real island nation.
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HUGH NEWMAN:
Plato described Atlantis
as being a huge landmass,
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potentially in
the Atlantic Ocean.
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One of the main design specs
of Atlantis was
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this huge area at the center
of the main city of Atlantis
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that had concentric circles of
land and canals.
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It had a canal coming out
that went to the sea,
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and a great port was
built there.
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YOUNG:
The concentric circles
of navigable canals
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suggest a wellâplanned
early marina.
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It is strongly oriented
to the sea.
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In the temple on the acropolis
at the center of Atlantis,
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there is a statue of Poseidon,
the creator god of the place.
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And he's got winged horses;
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a chariot with horses
that can fly.
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So there is also a transcendent
dimension implied.
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SHATNER:
But if such a transcendent,
aweâinspiring place
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actually existed,
what happened to it?
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According to Plato,
the Atlanteans angered the gods
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with their pride,
what the Greeks called "hubris."
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â(thunder crashes)
âAnd you definitely
don't want to do that.
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YOUNG:
Atlantis got more and more vain,
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more and more abusive
in their hubris.
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A kind of arrogance
that was saying, "We are gods."
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That vanity of thinking that we
are as important as the gods
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tends to upset the gods,
and then the downfall comes.
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The downfall that is in every
Greek tragic play
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is the same thing.
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People of great privilege
are brought down.
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(thunder crashing)
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PICKNETT:
Atlantis disappeared
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in a day and a night
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due to some natural catastrophe,
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and ended up under the waves.
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YOUNG:
The gods came and destroyed
the whole place.
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The people were killed,
the navy was destroyed,
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all in a day.
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And Atlantis sinks into the sea.
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FREUND:
When Plato talks about
this catastrophic destruction
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of Atlantis, I have to
take him seriously.
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And the people would say, "Oh,
it's just a metaphor, Atlantis."
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Every metaphor has at its base
a nucleus
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of historical information.
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So even if he fictionalized it,
even if he elaborated it,
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at its nucleus,
it's a real historical place.
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SHATNER:
Obviously, the best way to prove
whether or not Atlantis exists
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is to find it.
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And rediscovering
mythological cities
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isn't as farâfetched
as it might sound.
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Other than the myth of Atlantis,
the other great myth was
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the existence of Troy,
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a city that rivaled the Greeks
in power.
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We know about the Trojan horse,
we know about Helen of Troy,
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we know about Achilles.
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SHATNER:
For centuries, scholars
scoffed at the notion
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that Troy was a real place.
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That is until amateur
archaeologist
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Heinrich Schliemann went
looking for it in 1871.
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And believe it or not,
Schliemann found Troy.
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Pretty much where Homer said
it would be.
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KAKU:
And that spawned
a whole industry
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of trying to find
other ancient cities.
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But I think it also
raised false hopes
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that we would find Atlantis
the same way we found
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the city of Troy.
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It may not be so easy.
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SHATNER:
The modern search for Atlantis
was kicked off
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back in the late 19th century
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by a rather curious
amateur scientist
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named Ignatius Donnelly.
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CHRISTOPHER BADER:
Ignatius Donnelly wrote a book
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called Atlantis:
The Antediluvian World
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back in 1882.
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And this was a book that really
brought Atlantis out of
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Plato's fables and into
modern consciousness.
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He said Atlantis really existed,
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really did have advanced
technology.
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SHATNER:
For Donnelly, researching
the story of Atlantis
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became such an obsession
that he even went so far
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as to claim that
he knew precisely
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where Atlantis would
one day be found.
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YOUNG:
Ignatius Donnelly said
Atlantis was in
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a very specific place
in the Atlantic Ocean,
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that it sank,
and that the Azores,
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the islands out there off Spain,
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are the tips of the mountains.
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Now we have good undersea
exploration.
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We can go down and see
the heavy silt
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that is at the ocean bottom
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that took millions of years
to build up.
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It couldn't have been
a civilization that sank
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a few thousand years ago.
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So he was wrong.
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But Ignatius Donnelly
advanced the idea
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that Atlantis may have
physical history to it.
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SHATNER:
Many researchers believe that
the best way to find Atlantis
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is to look for it
where Plato said it was located.
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FREUND:
Plato gives us very specific
geographic locations
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for where Atlantis was.
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He says it's by the Pillars
of Hercules.
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And the pillars were
actually two mountains,
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one located at
the Rock of Gibraltar,
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and the other located
in Morocco.
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And these two rocks were
the Pillars of Hercules.
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So he's putting it in
a very specific location
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that every single reader
knew about.
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SHATNER:
Does the key
to rediscovering Atlantis
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lie in exploring the area
near the Pillars of Hercules,
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or what today we call
the Strait of Gibraltar?
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Perhaps the answer
can be found by examining
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the findings of a team
of archeologists
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who believe that the lost city
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is buried in Spain.
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SHATNER: In southern Spain,
just a few miles off the coast
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of the Atlantic Ocean
lies Doñana National Park.
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Considered to be one of
the finest biological reserves
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in the world, the park
is filled with marsh wetlands,
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sand dunes
and many forms of wildlife.
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But in recent years,
archaeologist Dr. Richard Freund
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has come to believe
that this marshland
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hides a profound secret:
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the remnants of Atlantis.
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FREUND: We started our work
with the Spanish archaeologists
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in Doñana Biological Park.
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It's one of the largest marshes
in all of Europe,
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about 250 square miles
of just marsh.
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The most important thing
about Doñana
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is it's located right next
to the Strait of Gibraltar.
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This is the area
where Plato says Atlantis was.
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So, archaeologists in Spain
started to look
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in Doñana Biological Park.
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And they invited us to come...
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...with our geoscience team
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to see if we could
narrow down the search
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using electrical
resistivity tomography,
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groundâpenetrating radar
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and other geoscience.
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SHATNER:
The archaeologists hoped
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that underground scans
would reveal the presence
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of the ruins of Atlantis
buried underground.
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The results
of the underground scans
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showed that there were
distinct changes, or "breaks,"
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in the density and conductivity
of the soil.
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Richard Freund claims
that these breaks
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indicate the location
of underground stone walls.
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FREUND:
We were able to look
through the different layers
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and identify what we thought
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were the markings
of the ancient city walls,
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concentric circles
that one can see
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using electrical resistivity
tomography,
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where they were
below the surface.
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Where the ancient city
might have been.
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Then, we did core samples
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that went down into the dirt
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30, 40, 50 meters
below the surface,
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and it told us
there was organic matter
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that dated back
to about 5000 BCE,
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some of the most ancient remains
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in this now close
sedimented marsh.
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So, now we have
the concentric circles,
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we have dating, so we know
that this is probably the area
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where Atlantis was centered.
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SHATNER:
But if there are
circular structures
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beneath the mud at Doñana,
how did they become buried?
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According to Freund,
the marshes were once the site
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of a large bay,
and the island of Atlantis
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sat in the middle of it.
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He theorizes that,
at some point,
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an earthquake
and a tsunami struck.
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â(people screaming)
âThe island sunk into the bay,
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and mud eventually covered
the lost city.
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FREUND:
Plato seems to be describing,
in the destruction of Atlantis,
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an earthquake
with a major megaâtsunami
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that basically inundated
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the entire island
with dirt and stone
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and they were not able
to get all the people out.
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It was a catastrophic event,
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and that catastrophic event
should be recorded in the marsh.
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SHATNER:
Incredibly, Freund also claims
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to have found
evidence underground
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not just of the structures
of Atlantis
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but of the cataclysm that
supposedly destroyed the city.
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It just so happens that
in the middle of the circle
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where the walls
of Atlantis were located,
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there was a consistent
methane layer in the marsh.
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SHATNER:
But why is the presence
of a layer of methane
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in the Doñana marsh
a significant find?
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Well, methane is a gas made up
of carbon and hydrogen.
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And in other studies,
archaeologists have concluded
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that the detection
of methane in soil
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can indicate the presence
of large numbers of dead bodies
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buried underground.
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And Richard Freund believes
that his discovery
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of a significant amount
of methane at Doñana
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means that the bodies of
the Atlanteans are buried there.
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40 feet below the surface,
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suddenly to find
this sealed layer,
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this is what confirms
not only the date,
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the time, but what happened
to most of the people.
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Humans, animals, agriculture
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had been sealed
and disintegrated.
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And that is one of the
indicators, the methane layer.
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SHATNER:
Does Richard Freund's discovery
of a methane layer
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beneath the Doñana marshes
suggest that Atlantis,
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and the Atlanteans themselves,
are buried there,
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waiting to be found?
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It's an intriguing possibility.
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However, since the Doñana marsh
is a wildlife reserve,
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the archaeologists
are not permitted to dig there
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to try and prove their theory.
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But Freund
and the Spanish archaeologists
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were determined to keep
searching for answers.
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So, they sent underwater divers
to investigate
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the nearby ocean floor
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where they found
extraordinary evidence
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that an ancient city
once existed in this area.
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FREUND:
What they were able to discover
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was there were massive walls,
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all in the area
right off of the coast.
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You have to wonder
"Where did they come from?"
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So, what we were able
to piece together
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is this came from a major city
on the coast.
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And that city is,
most likely than not, Atlantis.
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SHATNER:
Is it possible
that Richard Freund
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has found the site
where Atlantis was located,
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finally proving that
this lost civilization
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was, in fact, real?
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FREUND:
The most mysterious thing
about Atlantis
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is everybody knows
that it was destroyed,
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and yet most people
are looking for evidence
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that it wasn't
completely destroyed.
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In my opinion,
this site in southern Spain
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is where Atlantis was.
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SHATNER:
Richard Freund believes
he is on the cusp
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of uncovering
the ruins of Atlantis,
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but his theory faces
stiff competition
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from those posed
by other researchers.
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In fact, there are some
who argue that Atlantis
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was located at another site
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that is roughly 100 miles west,
in Portugal.
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And according to the man
who discovered that site,
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it fits virtually every clue
left by Plato,
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in a way no other place on earth
can possibly match.
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SHATNER:
British resarcher
Peter Daughtrey
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publishes a book titled
Atlantis and the Silver City.
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In it, Daughtry argues
that if Atlantis existed,
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the best way to find
its location is to take
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a much closer, more detailed
look at Plato's writings.
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Daughtrey has been
exhaustively studying
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Plato's dialogues for decades,
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and is confident
that he has found enough clues
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to solve the mystery
of Atlantis.
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When I analyze Plato, and in
the second dialogue, Critias,
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it gave an awful amount
of detail.
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In fact, there are 100 clues,
but about 40 of them
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you couldn't hope to possibly
find today
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because they would have
all gone a long time ago.
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So I distilled it down
to just 60 clues
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that we could reasonably hope
to match today.
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SHATNER:
When Daughtrey drilled deeper
into Plato's writings,
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he concluded that Atlantis
wasn't located
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along the coast of Spain,
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but rather, the idyllic
Algarve coast of Portugal.
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DAUGHTREY:
When I'd finished
researching the 60 clues,
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all 60 fit with this area.
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One of the few crops
he speaks of in detail
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isâis chestnuts,
sweet chestnuts.
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00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:15,131
That's one of the evocative
smells in the Algarve.
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And the sweet chestnut
was endemic in Portugal,
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and, well, Iberia.
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He also said
it had another clue,
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which was great wealth.
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Well, that area
of southern Portugal
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was one of the wealthiest areas
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for precious metals
in the world.
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Phoenicians were there trading
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with the Algarve
for the precious metals.
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In fact, at one stage,
so much silver
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had been taken
by the Phoenicians
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from this region
of southern Portugal
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back to Babylon,
the bullion market crashed
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because there was so much of it.
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SHATNER:
But what about
the biggest clue of all?
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Didn't Plato say
that Atlantis was an island?
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DAUGHTREY:
A lot of people were
looking for an island,
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and the word that Plato used,
the ancient Greek word,
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was nĂȘsos, NâEâSâOâS.
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In actual fact, the Greeks
had three definitions
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of the word nĂȘsos.
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One was an island.
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The other was a big estuary
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with mudflats
and rivulets of water.
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And the other one
was a peninsula.
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And right outside
the Straits of Gibraltar
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you got the Iberian Peninsula.
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So that had been bedeviling
the search for Atlantis
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for a long time, people
were looking for an island.
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It probably wasn't an island.
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SHATNER:
But if the land, the nĂȘsos,
of Atlantis
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is located in southern Portugal,
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where exactly
is the capital city?
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The one
with the concentric rings,
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the massive harbor
and the temple of Poseidon?
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DAUGHTREY:
I turned to the clues
for the city,
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which were 18 of the 60 clues,
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and they're very precise
and detailed.
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Plato said that the capital city
was less than a kilometer wide.
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It had mountains at the back
of it, it was on a flat plain.
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It was encircled by three rings
of water and two of land,
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and the outer ring of water
was a big harbor.
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SHATNER:
As Daughtrey searched,
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he found only one place
in the regionââ
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or for that matter,
in the worldââ
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that fits every single one
of his 18 clues.
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And to his surprise,
that place was a city
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that is located in Portugal,
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not on the bottom of the ocean,
nor buried under layers of mud:
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00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,317
the old Portuguese town
of Silves.
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00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:43,279
This ancient city,
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in the Algarve region
of southern Portugal,
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00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,741
is set on the Arade River,
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00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,704
which links inland Portugal
to the open ocean.
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00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:54,498
DAUGHTREY:
Silves town itself is just
less than a kilometer wide.
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00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:58,085
One of Plato's clues was that
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00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,546
it was only nine and a quarter
kilometers from the sea.
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00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:03,340
The river that runs past Silves
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00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:04,800
and goes, you know,
out to the sea,
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00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,261
it's exactly nine
and a quarter kilometers.
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00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:10,598
Plato said that they built
the buildings
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from white, black and red rock.
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00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,978
In fact, if you go to Silves
now, you can see the pavement
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00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:18,814
is in white, black
and red stone.
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00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:23,319
Plato said there was a palace
at the top of the island.
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00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,321
And Silves,
there's an old castle there,
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the biggest in Portugal.
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00:23:26,989 --> 00:23:29,700
The current castle
is on a brow of a hill
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00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:31,410
that is the same
land measurements
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as he gave for the palace.
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So all these clues
match to the city.
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00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,416
There couldn't be two of them.
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And it really is the final
clincher, if you like,
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that that was where
Plato was talking about.
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SHATNER:
According to Peter Daughtrey,
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the city that is now
called Silves
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was at the center
of a vast empire that stretched
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to include the area
of the Doñana marsh,
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00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:59,146
so it's entirely possible
that both he and Richard Freund
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00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:03,525
have uncovered remnants
of Atlantis.
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00:24:04,485 --> 00:24:06,320
But questions remain.
430
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,822
For instance, if Atlantis
was a farâreaching,
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00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:13,577
seafaring nation that traveled
throughout the Mediterranean,
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00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,872
then how come
no ancient artifacts
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00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,501
from their civilization
have ever been recovered?
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00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:23,879
Well, a recent discovery
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00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:27,883
may have finally revealed
the ancient artifacts
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00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:31,512
that archaeologists
have been searching for.
437
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,230
Marine archeologists
recover dozens
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00:24:41,355 --> 00:24:44,024
of mysterious metal bars
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00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:48,779
from an ancient shipwreck
on the seafloor off of Sicily.
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00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:53,075
Metal bars that, incredibly,
match the description
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of a metal that was said to be
treasured by the Atlanteans:
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00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,248
orichalcum.
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00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:03,168
NEWMAN: One of the mysteries of
Atlantis that Plato talked about
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was a type of metal
called orichalcum.
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00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,716
This has been a big mystery
and a big debate,
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00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:12,386
you know, for many decades
about what this really is.
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00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,096
FREUND:
The archaeologists said,
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00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:18,142
"We want to know if this
is really orichalcum."
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00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:21,270
So I sent a geoscientist
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with an Xâray
fluorescence machine
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00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,650
that basically can
tell me the content
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00:25:26,817 --> 00:25:30,863
of that metal
without destroying the sample.
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00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:36,285
And what he discovered was
it had all the characteristics
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of what orichalcum
traditionally had.
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00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:42,249
It had zinc, it had lead,
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00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:45,627
it had copper, it had tin.
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00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:50,215
And these are all materials
that made orichalcum so famous.
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00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:54,511
Could the very existence
of orichalcum
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00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:58,348
really be tangible evidence
that Plato's fabled
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lost continent actually existed?
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00:26:01,143 --> 00:26:05,606
There are many who believe
the answer is yes.
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00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:08,317
But does that suggest
that Atlantis was located
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00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,821
somewhere off the coast
of Spain, in Portugal, perhaps?
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00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:15,741
Or could it have been
somewhere else?
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Somewhere that few people
would ever imagine?
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SHATNER:
Dayton, Ohio, November, 1923.
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00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:32,800
Edgar Cayce,
an American psychic and healer,
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00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:35,761
famous in the early 20th century
469
00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:38,138
for his ability
to see into the future,
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00:26:38,305 --> 00:26:42,684
has a profound vision
while in a selfâinduced trance.
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00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,979
â(babbling)
âBut on this particular
occasion,
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00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:50,067
Cayce's vision
was not of the future
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00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:52,569
âbut of the distant past.
â(mumbles): Atlantis.
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00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:55,531
SHATNER:
He saw Atlantis.
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00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:58,408
But the Atlantis that Cayce saw
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00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:01,578
did not resemble
an ancient city.
477
00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:08,919
Edgar Cayce talks about Atlantis
in his psychic readings
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00:27:09,002 --> 00:27:13,048
as being a place
of high culture.
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00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:17,052
Civilization beyond
even what we have today.
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00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,847
They had everything
from crystals
481
00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,307
that could affect
your healing in the body
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00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,853
to death rays, even airships.
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00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:28,981
BADER:
He described Atlantis
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as a place of a much greater and
much more advanced technology
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00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,821
than either Plato
or Donnelly claimed.
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00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:38,574
He claims that they were able
to levitate
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00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,117
and have psychic powers.
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00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,828
The downfall of Atlantis,
according to Cayce,
489
00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:47,332
was that Atlantis had developed
giant crystal death rays
490
00:27:47,416 --> 00:27:50,919
and there was an internal
civil war on the island,
491
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,130
that during that war,
the crystal death rays
492
00:27:53,255 --> 00:27:58,677
were set off and sunk the island
beneath the waves.
493
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,805
SHATNER:
Giant crystal death rays?
494
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:08,061
As strange as it sounds,
that is what Cayce said.
495
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:11,940
Researchers believe that one way
to test his incredible claims
496
00:28:12,065 --> 00:28:14,610
is to look for the ruins
of Atlantis
497
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:17,487
where Edgar Cayce
thought it was located.
498
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:21,533
Cayce said that Atlantis wasn't
centered near the Mediterranean,
499
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,452
as most people believe,
500
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:27,164
but rather, on the other side
of the Atlantic Ocean.
501
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,626
PICKNETT:
Edgar Cayce described Atlantis
502
00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:33,587
as being just off
the coast of Cuba,
503
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,007
and there is some
quite persuasive research
504
00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:41,386
about, um, Atlantis
actually being off Cuba.
505
00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:46,350
COLLINS:
In September, 1998,
506
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:52,314
I went to Cuba and I hired
the help of a local archeologist
507
00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:55,192
who was able to take me
out to these caves.
508
00:28:55,359 --> 00:29:01,156
We found a veritable Sistine
Chapel of the ancient world.
509
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:05,577
Seven chambers full
of the most incredible rock art
510
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:09,206
showing these weird
concentric circles
511
00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:12,292
that were a complete mystery
to the archeologists.
512
00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:15,587
It was almost as if
I had a eureka moment,
513
00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:20,926
and I realized that this could
be the key to finding Atlantis.
514
00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:23,887
SHATNER:
In addition
to archaeological evidence
515
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:27,140
linking Cuba to Atlantis,
researchers argue
516
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,977
that there is also
historical evidence,
517
00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:33,480
in the form of accounts
written by Spanish explorers
518
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,983
in the 16th century.
519
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:40,821
In 1552, a Spanish historian
520
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:46,118
by the name
of Francisco LĂłpez de GĂłmara
521
00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:51,915
actually wrote that when
the Spanish did arrive in Cuba,
522
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,334
they found
that the indigenous peoples
523
00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:57,629
had a tradition
that once all of these islands
524
00:29:57,713 --> 00:30:00,132
were one huge continent...
525
00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:04,469
...that had been broken apart
526
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,972
by the waters
during a great cataclysm
527
00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:10,642
and split apart into the islands
528
00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:12,894
and the cays that we see today.
529
00:30:13,687 --> 00:30:15,856
SHATNER:
According to geologists,
530
00:30:15,981 --> 00:30:17,649
such a cataclysm did take place
531
00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:19,985
in the Atlantic Ocean,
near Cuba,
532
00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:22,821
more than 10,000 years ago.
533
00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:24,906
During the last ice age,
534
00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:29,870
sea levels were about
400 feet lower.
535
00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:33,707
Many of today's islands were
joined into large landmasses;
536
00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:37,878
island continents,
you might say.
537
00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:41,131
Then the ice began to melt,
creating sudden surges
538
00:30:41,214 --> 00:30:45,177
in ocean levels called
meltwater pulses.
539
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,806
One particularly violent pulse
wreaked havoc
540
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:53,852
on coastlines and islands
everywhere.
541
00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,314
Meltwater pulse 1B.
542
00:30:57,439 --> 00:31:02,152
Some people think that
meltwater pulse 1B took place
543
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,822
precisely when Atlantis
was supposed to fall.
544
00:31:05,989 --> 00:31:08,700
Now, of course,
this is a theory,
545
00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:11,661
'cause we're going back
10,000 years.
546
00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:13,997
Some people have claimed
that perhaps it was
547
00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:16,750
the sudden meltwater
being released
548
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:20,796
that caused the flooding
which destroyed Atlantis.
549
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:24,716
Plato tells us that Atlantis
was somewhere
550
00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:26,718
out in the Atlantic Ocean.
551
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:28,303
But where, exactly?
552
00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:34,017
Is it possible that Atlantis
awaits discovery
553
00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,186
off the coast of Cuba?
554
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:38,313
I actually think
the answer is yes.
555
00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:43,151
SHATNER:
If Edgar Cayce was right,
and the ruins of Atlantis
556
00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:45,821
can be found in the ocean
near Cuba,
557
00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:49,616
then is it also possible
that Atlantis possessed
558
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:53,495
incredibly sophisticated
technology, as he described?
559
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:55,872
Perhaps even technology
560
00:31:55,997 --> 00:31:59,918
that is more advanced
than our own.
561
00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:04,881
Airships, levitation,
psych powers.
562
00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:07,050
Sounds like something
out of science fiction,
563
00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:09,761
until we remember that,
according to Plato,
564
00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:13,098
Atlantis was created
by Poseidon,
565
00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:17,144
the Greek god of the sea,
and ruled by his children.
566
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,146
And there are some
who believe that
567
00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:22,816
those same Greek gods
were actually
568
00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:25,569
extraterrestrial visitors.
569
00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:29,489
But that's all too farâfetched
for rational minds
570
00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:31,575
like ours to accept.
571
00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:35,287
Or is it?
572
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:46,840
SHATNER:
Standing in the center of the
National Archaeological Museum
573
00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:49,801
is an ancient statue
that is referred to as
574
00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:52,471
Poseidon of Melos.
575
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,141
Dated to the second century BC,
576
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:59,102
it depicts the Greek god
Poseidon who,
577
00:32:59,186 --> 00:33:02,856
according to Plato, was both
the ruler of the sea
578
00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:06,151
and the founder of Atlantis.
579
00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:12,282
We hear from Plato
that the gods drew lots
580
00:33:12,365 --> 00:33:15,285
and divided up the world
into areas
581
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,162
that they would be
responsible for.
582
00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:21,791
And Poseidon receives an island,
583
00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:24,920
and he finds a human woman
on the island,
584
00:33:25,045 --> 00:33:26,630
falls in love with her,
585
00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:29,299
and they have five sets
of twins.
586
00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:33,929
And the firstborn of the first
set of twins he names Atlas,
587
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:37,224
and he makes him
the king of Atlantis.
588
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:40,018
So the island is named for
that Atlas,
589
00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,312
as is the Atlantic Ocean
590
00:33:42,395 --> 00:33:45,148
in which the island
was situated.
591
00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:48,068
The original inhabitants
of Atlantis,
592
00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:51,321
the Atlanteans themselves,
because they are
593
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:55,242
the descendants of a god,
they are like gods themselves.
594
00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:58,453
They're not gods
on the level of Poseidon,
595
00:33:58,578 --> 00:34:03,375
but they are endowed with
supernatural powers of sorts.
596
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:08,088
BURDORFF:
They have the best technology,
they have the most resources,
597
00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:11,800
they have civilization
crafted by a god
598
00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:14,636
for their greatest benefit.
599
00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:20,016
SHATNER:
Were the Atlanteans
really supernatural beings
600
00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,520
with advanced technology
who descended from a god?
601
00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:27,440
Sounds like a wild fantasy.
602
00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:31,027
But, just like the rest
of the Atlantis story,
603
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:34,406
it begs the question:
is there any way
604
00:34:34,531 --> 00:34:37,325
that it could possibly be true?
605
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:42,872
Plato said the Atlanteans were
the children of the gods.
606
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,417
They were hybrid beings.
607
00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:48,295
They were part human, part god,
608
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:51,756
where the gods have created
this race of beings.
609
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,260
Many people have long believed
that this story is true,
610
00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:56,886
but they weren't really gods,
611
00:34:57,012 --> 00:34:58,805
they were actually
extraterrestrials,
612
00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:01,182
and they mated with
human females
613
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:03,143
and created a hybrid race.
614
00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:07,314
This is a story that has
all kinds of hallmarks
615
00:35:07,397 --> 00:35:10,442
of genetic engineering
and the influence of
616
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,570
an extraterrestrial
with this technology.
617
00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,197
It sounds like quite
a farâout idea,
618
00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:20,118
but there's a lot of analogies
in myths
619
00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,245
that don't really make sense
unless you look at it
620
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:25,373
âfrom a technical perspective.
â(thunder crashes)
621
00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:27,334
HENRY:
In Plato's dialogues,
he makes it clear that
622
00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:31,087
Atlantis is a place
of genuine history.
623
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,632
So what the story is
actually telling us
624
00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:36,926
is that there were
actual beings that came to Earth
625
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:41,556
and influenced human affairs
by creating hybrid offspring.
626
00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:47,187
SHATNER:
Extraterrestrial hybrids.
627
00:35:47,312 --> 00:35:49,939
If this fascinating theory
is true,
628
00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:52,233
could it be that
the advanced technology
629
00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:56,154
associated with Atlantis
was brought to Earth...
630
00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:58,406
from another world?
631
00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:01,576
And perhaps more profoundly,
if the Atlanteans
632
00:36:01,701 --> 00:36:04,287
descended from
extraterrestrials,
633
00:36:04,371 --> 00:36:09,834
could it be that
they didn't just disappear,
634
00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:12,462
but actually went home?
635
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,132
One of the big problems
of Atlantis
636
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,510
is where is it?
Where did it go?
637
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,513
There's so many places
around the world
638
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,641
that Atlantis is said
to have existed:
639
00:36:24,766 --> 00:36:30,355
Antarctica, the Mediterranean,
Cuba and other places.
640
00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:33,024
One of the ideas is that
it actually was
641
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:36,444
some kind of spaceship
that lifted off
642
00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:39,823
and then would go and land
in another location.
643
00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:41,991
So many of the stories
we often find in Greek myths
644
00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:46,204
do talk about these stars
falling from the sky
645
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:48,957
and creating these islands
in the ocean.
646
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,628
So Atlantis could have actually
took off and left Earth.
647
00:36:53,753 --> 00:36:57,924
HENRY:
Cultures all around the world
talk about humans deciding
648
00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,843
to ascend or leave the planet
because of
649
00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:01,261
an impending cataclysm;
650
00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:03,722
a coming apocalypse,
like a great flood
651
00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:06,182
or a cataclysm of that nature.
652
00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:09,018
And this is what we might be
seeing in Atlantis,
653
00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:11,020
where they know
this cataclysm's coming,
654
00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:14,691
and they decide it's time
to move into the stars.
655
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:20,029
SHATNER:
Atlantis a spaceship?
656
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:22,532
It's an audacious theory.
657
00:37:22,699 --> 00:37:24,534
Which, perhaps,
is what you must expect
658
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,786
when an entire continent
vanishes
659
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,455
from the face of the earth.
660
00:37:29,539 --> 00:37:34,377
But... did Atlantis
really leave no trace?
661
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:39,132
Or, in fact, could there be a
reflection of the lost continent
662
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:40,717
in the modern world,
663
00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:42,177
and in the last place
664
00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:46,598
anyone would expect to find it?
665
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:55,940
SHATNER:
Orlando, Florida. 1966.
666
00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:58,485
Only months before his death,
667
00:37:58,568 --> 00:38:03,323
Walt Disney announces his
most ambitious project to date.
668
00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:05,575
DAVE BOSSERT:
In 1966,
669
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:10,330
really one of the last things
that Walt talked about publicly
670
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:14,793
was his designs for EPCOT,
671
00:38:14,918 --> 00:38:20,882
which stands for Experimental
Prototype City of Tomorrow.
672
00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:25,637
And he had been amassing
property
673
00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:29,349
in the Orlando area of Florida
for a number of years
674
00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:32,143
before he finally made
this announcement.
675
00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,063
SHATNER:
In the years
following Disney's death,
676
00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:37,565
the EPCOT project moved forward.
677
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:39,651
But without Disney's
personal guidance,
678
00:38:39,776 --> 00:38:42,278
his ambitious plans
were scaled back.
679
00:38:43,238 --> 00:38:44,823
In his original vision,
680
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,951
EPCOT was to be
not just a tourist attraction,
681
00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,495
but an actual city,
682
00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:53,790
a place where thousands
would live and workââ
683
00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:55,500
a utopia.
684
00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:58,294
BOSSERT:
The designers, the Imagineers,
685
00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:00,213
Walt Disney,
were all looking to see
686
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,758
if they could create
this utopian society.
687
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,970
And you have to remember,
as they were designing this,
688
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:12,016
there was the cultural upheaval
of the 1960s starting to go on.
689
00:39:12,141 --> 00:39:14,269
SHATNER:
But there's one thing
690
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,980
few people know about EPCOT.
691
00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,315
Both Disney's original design
692
00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:22,360
and the version
that was ultimately built
693
00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:25,655
resemble,
to a remarkable degree,
694
00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:28,575
Plato's description of Atlantis,
695
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:32,328
right down
to the concentric rings.
696
00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:37,000
So, with EPCOT,
you had this center core,
697
00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,960
which would have been
the office buildings
698
00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:40,753
and live industry,
699
00:39:40,837 --> 00:39:43,131
and you had
these concentric rings
700
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,300
that radiated out from that,
701
00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:49,679
with greenbelts separating
different areas,
702
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:54,267
and this is very similar to
the description that Plato gave.
703
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:57,437
And instead of greenbelts,
they were waterways.
704
00:39:59,022 --> 00:40:02,609
SHATNER:
Was Walt Disney creating
a modernâday Atlantis,
705
00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:05,069
perhaps without
even realizing it?
706
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,988
BOSSERT:
No one really knows
707
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:10,199
what were those thoughts
that floated through his head
708
00:40:10,366 --> 00:40:13,745
about the lost city of Atlantis.
709
00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:15,914
What was he thinking about it?
710
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,498
What did he believe?
711
00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:19,375
We'll never know that.
712
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,629
I firmly believe
that if Walt Disney
713
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:25,381
had lived another 20 years,
714
00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:29,636
we may have seen
his vision of EPCOT
715
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,388
really be a modernâday version
716
00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:34,891
of the lost city of Atlantis.
717
00:40:36,851 --> 00:40:38,144
âȘ âȘ
718
00:40:38,311 --> 00:40:40,521
McNEILL:
The idea of a utopian society
719
00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:44,525
has always captured
imaginations.
720
00:40:44,692 --> 00:40:48,154
And the way that this
intentionally planned community
721
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:52,867
was conceived and designed
and executed
722
00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:55,662
speaks to the power
723
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:59,165
of those models of utopian
societies that have come to us
724
00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,251
out of antiquity and tradition.
725
00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:04,921
Whether it's actually
still there to be found,
726
00:41:05,004 --> 00:41:07,674
or whether it's been
so badly destroyed
727
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,801
that no evidence of it remains,
728
00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:12,136
what's really happened
to Atlantis, we don't know,
729
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,973
but I think one day
we'll find evidence of it.
730
00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:19,936
Could an advanced civilization,
731
00:41:20,061 --> 00:41:24,774
with technology
beyond our wildest dreams,
732
00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:28,611
have existed here on Earth
thousands of years ago?
733
00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:32,073
It's certainly
a compelling notion.
734
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:36,661
But maybe Atlantis
was always meant to be a myth,
735
00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:40,623
a utopian city that
was conceived as an elusive goal
736
00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:42,709
for mankind to achieve,
737
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:46,421
like Camelot or Shangriâla.
738
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,840
In any case,
if Atlantis did exist,
739
00:41:48,965 --> 00:41:51,092
let's hope that
someday we find it.
740
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,470
It would be a shame
if all those legendary wonders
741
00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:58,391
stayed hidden
and those secrets remained...
742
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,518
unexplained.
743
00:42:00,643 --> 00:42:03,104
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