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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,585 --> 00:00:06,131 WILLIAM SHATNER: Atlantis, a legendary utopia, 2 00:00:06,256 --> 00:00:08,091 and a model for urban efficiency. 3 00:00:08,175 --> 00:00:11,136 The city of the future. 4 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:14,681 And then one day it was gone. 5 00:00:17,059 --> 00:00:19,311 According to the ancient Greek philosopher Plato, 6 00:00:19,478 --> 00:00:23,315 it was the glittering capital of an advanced civilization, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,027 and then, suddenly, it vanished from the face of the earth. 8 00:00:27,194 --> 00:00:30,072 Some believe it was destroyed by an earthquake, 9 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:33,659 others are convinced that it sunk into the sea. 10 00:00:33,784 --> 00:00:35,911 And then there are those who believe 11 00:00:36,036 --> 00:00:40,165 it rose up off the ground and went... 12 00:00:40,249 --> 00:00:43,085 But was it only a myth? 13 00:00:43,210 --> 00:00:46,296 Or did the so‐called lost continent of Atlantis 14 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:48,298 really exist? 15 00:00:48,423 --> 00:00:53,262 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 16 00:00:53,387 --> 00:00:55,264 â™Ș â™Ș 17 00:01:11,655 --> 00:01:14,449 SHATNER: Within this modern city stands the ruins of a citadel 18 00:01:14,533 --> 00:01:17,494 that was once the center of ancient Greece. 19 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:21,999 The ancient Greek civilization lasted 20 00:01:22,124 --> 00:01:23,875 for more than three centuries. 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,170 The Greeks developed a sophisticated culture, 22 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:31,592 which had a profound impact on Western politics, 23 00:01:31,717 --> 00:01:33,302 science and philosophy. 24 00:01:33,427 --> 00:01:37,306 One of the best known Greek philosophers was Plato, 25 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:41,143 who wrote more than 20 important philosophical texts, 26 00:01:41,268 --> 00:01:43,645 known as "dialogues." 27 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:47,649 RIC RADER: Plato was doing his major writing 28 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:50,152 in the fourth century BCE. 29 00:01:50,277 --> 00:01:53,238 And Plato's works are very serious, 30 00:01:53,363 --> 00:01:55,240 very sober philosophical reflections 31 00:01:55,365 --> 00:01:57,451 on major, major questions. 32 00:01:57,576 --> 00:02:01,038 He is really the most important philosopher 33 00:02:01,163 --> 00:02:02,581 in the Western world. 34 00:02:02,706 --> 00:02:06,126 RICHARD FREUND: For most of Western civilization, 35 00:02:06,293 --> 00:02:11,381 Plato is the basis for our thinking and philosophy. 36 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:14,718 But he's also partially historian. 37 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:20,474 And his work is still used 38 00:02:20,557 --> 00:02:25,228 in order to identify the way life was in antiquity. 39 00:02:25,354 --> 00:02:28,065 SHATNER: Of all the influential writings of Plato, 40 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:30,150 the one that is perhaps the most fascinating 41 00:02:30,275 --> 00:02:33,445 and the most mysterious is his account 42 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:36,990 of a lost civilization that existed centuries before 43 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:40,410 the rise of ancient Greece... 44 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:43,455 Atlantis. 45 00:02:43,538 --> 00:02:47,125 Atlantis is a very important story in Western imagination. 46 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:50,671 In the year 359 before the Common Era, 47 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:53,924 Plato, the great philosopher, told a story 48 00:02:54,049 --> 00:02:57,427 about a continent, a large island, 49 00:02:57,511 --> 00:02:59,513 out in the Atlantic Ocean, 50 00:02:59,638 --> 00:03:03,141 and it became a very powerful nation. 51 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:05,435 It was home to a fabulous civilization 52 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:08,980 that began as the byword for justice and compassion. 53 00:03:09,064 --> 00:03:14,236 It had a huge navy that it used to travel 54 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:18,115 from place to place around the Mediterranean. 55 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,493 ANDREW COLLINS: Plato tells us in his dialogues 56 00:03:21,618 --> 00:03:25,580 that the information came from a famous statesman 57 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:28,792 who visited Egypt by the name of Solon 58 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:30,043 a few centuries before. 59 00:03:30,168 --> 00:03:33,797 SHATNER: Plato wrote that Solon traveled to northern Egypt 60 00:03:33,922 --> 00:03:35,674 and entered a sacred temple 61 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:38,844 dedicated to the Egyptian goddess Neith. 62 00:03:38,969 --> 00:03:41,722 Within the temple was a column 63 00:03:41,847 --> 00:03:44,141 completely covered with hieroglyphics 64 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:47,269 on which the history of Atlantis was recorded. 65 00:03:47,352 --> 00:03:51,064 Egyptian priests told Solon the story of 66 00:03:51,189 --> 00:03:53,275 this lost civilization, 67 00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:55,318 which predated the Egyptians themselves. 68 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:59,072 The Egyptians would recount the story of Atlantis 69 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:03,118 as a major, major part of where their civilization came from, 70 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,829 where they got a lot of their knowledge. 71 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:08,999 This was a very advanced and technological civilization. 72 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:14,087 And Plato is reporting this as a very, very important story 73 00:04:14,171 --> 00:04:15,797 for the ancient Egyptians. 74 00:04:15,964 --> 00:04:20,719 Pretty much like the next day after Plato writes this, 75 00:04:20,844 --> 00:04:22,679 people start debating whether or not it was true. 76 00:04:22,846 --> 00:04:26,850 Did Plato mean this as a fictional story, 77 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:31,688 or was Plato talking about a historical occurrence? 78 00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:34,608 SHATNER: While it may sound like the stuff of fantasy, 79 00:04:34,691 --> 00:04:38,278 in his dialogues Timaeus and Critias, 80 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:40,489 Plato provides a wealth of detail 81 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:44,367 about what many believe was a very real island nation. 82 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:50,499 HUGH NEWMAN: Plato described Atlantis as being a huge landmass, 83 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:53,126 potentially in the Atlantic Ocean. 84 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:56,463 One of the main design specs of Atlantis was 85 00:04:56,546 --> 00:05:01,301 this huge area at the center of the main city of Atlantis 86 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:05,764 that had concentric circles of land and canals. 87 00:05:05,889 --> 00:05:09,309 It had a canal coming out that went to the sea, 88 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:12,395 and a great port was built there. 89 00:05:12,521 --> 00:05:15,148 YOUNG: The concentric circles of navigable canals 90 00:05:15,273 --> 00:05:18,151 suggest a well‐planned early marina. 91 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:21,863 It is strongly oriented to the sea. 92 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:25,700 In the temple on the acropolis at the center of Atlantis, 93 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:29,287 there is a statue of Poseidon, the creator god of the place. 94 00:05:29,412 --> 00:05:31,498 And he's got winged horses; 95 00:05:31,623 --> 00:05:33,750 a chariot with horses that can fly. 96 00:05:33,875 --> 00:05:37,921 So there is also a transcendent dimension implied. 97 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:42,676 SHATNER: But if such a transcendent, awe‐inspiring place 98 00:05:42,843 --> 00:05:46,471 actually existed, what happened to it? 99 00:05:46,638 --> 00:05:51,309 According to Plato, the Atlanteans angered the gods 100 00:05:51,434 --> 00:05:54,646 with their pride, what the Greeks called "hubris." 101 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:59,442 ‐(thunder crashes) ‐And you definitely don't want to do that. 102 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:05,156 YOUNG: Atlantis got more and more vain, 103 00:06:05,282 --> 00:06:08,243 more and more abusive in their hubris. 104 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:12,497 A kind of arrogance that was saying, "We are gods." 105 00:06:12,622 --> 00:06:17,294 That vanity of thinking that we are as important as the gods 106 00:06:17,419 --> 00:06:21,756 tends to upset the gods, and then the downfall comes. 107 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,467 The downfall that is in every Greek tragic play 108 00:06:24,593 --> 00:06:26,136 is the same thing. 109 00:06:26,219 --> 00:06:29,306 People of great privilege are brought down. 110 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:30,974 (thunder crashing) 111 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:32,976 PICKNETT: Atlantis disappeared 112 00:06:33,101 --> 00:06:34,895 in a day and a night 113 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:38,648 due to some natural catastrophe, 114 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:39,983 and ended up under the waves. 115 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:45,947 YOUNG: The gods came and destroyed the whole place. 116 00:06:46,031 --> 00:06:49,701 The people were killed, the navy was destroyed, 117 00:06:49,826 --> 00:06:51,369 all in a day. 118 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:55,373 And Atlantis sinks into the sea. 119 00:06:57,792 --> 00:07:01,796 FREUND: When Plato talks about this catastrophic destruction 120 00:07:01,922 --> 00:07:06,843 of Atlantis, I have to take him seriously. 121 00:07:06,968 --> 00:07:10,180 And the people would say, "Oh, it's just a metaphor, Atlantis." 122 00:07:10,305 --> 00:07:14,851 Every metaphor has at its base a nucleus 123 00:07:15,018 --> 00:07:17,896 of historical information. 124 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:23,401 So even if he fictionalized it, even if he elaborated it, 125 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:28,406 at its nucleus, it's a real historical place. 126 00:07:28,531 --> 00:07:32,118 SHATNER: Obviously, the best way to prove whether or not Atlantis exists 127 00:07:32,202 --> 00:07:33,536 is to find it. 128 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:36,665 And rediscovering mythological cities 129 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:40,919 isn't as far‐fetched as it might sound. 130 00:07:41,002 --> 00:07:44,130 Other than the myth of Atlantis, the other great myth was 131 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:45,298 the existence of Troy, 132 00:07:45,382 --> 00:07:50,512 a city that rivaled the Greeks in power. 133 00:07:50,679 --> 00:07:54,140 We know about the Trojan horse, we know about Helen of Troy, 134 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:55,850 we know about Achilles. 135 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,436 SHATNER: For centuries, scholars scoffed at the notion 136 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:00,647 that Troy was a real place. 137 00:08:00,772 --> 00:08:03,024 That is until amateur archaeologist 138 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:06,653 Heinrich Schliemann went looking for it in 1871. 139 00:08:06,778 --> 00:08:10,824 And believe it or not, Schliemann found Troy. 140 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,827 Pretty much where Homer said it would be. 141 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:17,706 KAKU: And that spawned a whole industry 142 00:08:17,831 --> 00:08:20,333 of trying to find other ancient cities. 143 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,419 But I think it also raised false hopes 144 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:25,171 that we would find Atlantis the same way we found 145 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,132 the city of Troy. 146 00:08:27,298 --> 00:08:28,591 It may not be so easy. 147 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:32,512 SHATNER: The modern search for Atlantis was kicked off 148 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:34,472 back in the late 19th century 149 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:38,018 by a rather curious amateur scientist 150 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:40,979 named Ignatius Donnelly. 151 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:44,649 CHRISTOPHER BADER: Ignatius Donnelly wrote a book 152 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:47,193 called Atlantis: The Antediluvian World 153 00:08:47,318 --> 00:08:48,987 back in 1882. 154 00:08:49,112 --> 00:08:51,990 And this was a book that really brought Atlantis out of 155 00:08:52,115 --> 00:08:55,827 Plato's fables and into modern consciousness. 156 00:08:55,952 --> 00:08:58,246 He said Atlantis really existed, 157 00:08:58,371 --> 00:09:00,999 really did have advanced technology. 158 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:04,711 SHATNER: For Donnelly, researching the story of Atlantis 159 00:09:04,836 --> 00:09:08,089 became such an obsession that he even went so far 160 00:09:08,214 --> 00:09:10,341 as to claim that he knew precisely 161 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:13,970 where Atlantis would one day be found. 162 00:09:14,095 --> 00:09:16,473 YOUNG: Ignatius Donnelly said Atlantis was in 163 00:09:16,598 --> 00:09:18,808 a very specific place in the Atlantic Ocean, 164 00:09:18,975 --> 00:09:21,144 that it sank, and that the Azores, 165 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:23,646 the islands out there off Spain, 166 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:26,566 are the tips of the mountains. 167 00:09:26,691 --> 00:09:28,693 Now we have good undersea exploration. 168 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,112 We can go down and see the heavy silt 169 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:32,864 that is at the ocean bottom 170 00:09:33,031 --> 00:09:35,492 that took millions of years to build up. 171 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:38,286 It couldn't have been a civilization that sank 172 00:09:38,369 --> 00:09:39,871 a few thousand years ago. 173 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:41,039 So he was wrong. 174 00:09:41,164 --> 00:09:44,125 But Ignatius Donnelly advanced the idea 175 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:48,463 that Atlantis may have physical history to it. 176 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:53,009 SHATNER: Many researchers believe that the best way to find Atlantis 177 00:09:53,176 --> 00:09:57,514 is to look for it where Plato said it was located. 178 00:10:00,058 --> 00:10:04,979 FREUND: Plato gives us very specific geographic locations 179 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:08,650 for where Atlantis was. 180 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:12,654 He says it's by the Pillars of Hercules. 181 00:10:12,779 --> 00:10:15,865 And the pillars were actually two mountains, 182 00:10:16,032 --> 00:10:18,743 one located at the Rock of Gibraltar, 183 00:10:18,868 --> 00:10:21,663 and the other located in Morocco. 184 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:25,667 And these two rocks were the Pillars of Hercules. 185 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:28,878 So he's putting it in a very specific location 186 00:10:29,003 --> 00:10:32,048 that every single reader knew about. 187 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:35,802 SHATNER: Does the key to rediscovering Atlantis 188 00:10:35,885 --> 00:10:40,098 lie in exploring the area near the Pillars of Hercules, 189 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:43,935 or what today we call the Strait of Gibraltar? 190 00:10:44,018 --> 00:10:46,980 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining 191 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,691 the findings of a team of archeologists 192 00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:52,694 who believe that the lost city 193 00:10:52,861 --> 00:10:55,864 is buried in Spain. 194 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:03,788 SHATNER: In southern Spain, just a few miles off the coast 195 00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:08,251 of the Atlantic Ocean lies Doñana National Park. 196 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:11,713 Considered to be one of the finest biological reserves 197 00:11:11,838 --> 00:11:16,634 in the world, the park is filled with marsh wetlands, 198 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,180 sand dunes and many forms of wildlife. 199 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:24,809 But in recent years, archaeologist Dr. Richard Freund 200 00:11:24,976 --> 00:11:27,729 has come to believe that this marshland 201 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:30,315 hides a profound secret: 202 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:33,985 the remnants of Atlantis. 203 00:11:34,068 --> 00:11:37,405 FREUND: We started our work with the Spanish archaeologists 204 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:40,200 in Doñana Biological Park. 205 00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:45,038 It's one of the largest marshes in all of Europe, 206 00:11:45,163 --> 00:11:49,626 about 250 square miles of just marsh. 207 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:52,337 The most important thing about Doñana 208 00:11:52,462 --> 00:11:57,175 is it's located right next to the Strait of Gibraltar. 209 00:11:57,342 --> 00:12:02,180 This is the area where Plato says Atlantis was. 210 00:12:02,305 --> 00:12:05,433 So, archaeologists in Spain started to look 211 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:08,394 in Doñana Biological Park. 212 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,064 And they invited us to come... 213 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,651 ...with our geoscience team 214 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,194 to see if we could narrow down the search 215 00:12:16,319 --> 00:12:19,364 using electrical resistivity tomography, 216 00:12:19,489 --> 00:12:22,367 ground‐penetrating radar 217 00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:24,369 and other geoscience. 218 00:12:26,037 --> 00:12:27,622 SHATNER: The archaeologists hoped 219 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:30,875 that underground scans would reveal the presence 220 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:33,002 of the ruins of Atlantis buried underground. 221 00:12:33,169 --> 00:12:36,089 The results of the underground scans 222 00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:39,592 showed that there were distinct changes, or "breaks," 223 00:12:39,717 --> 00:12:42,679 in the density and conductivity of the soil. 224 00:12:44,806 --> 00:12:48,059 Richard Freund claims that these breaks 225 00:12:48,184 --> 00:12:52,981 indicate the location of underground stone walls. 226 00:12:53,147 --> 00:12:55,984 FREUND: We were able to look through the different layers 227 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,986 and identify what we thought 228 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:02,699 were the markings of the ancient city walls, 229 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:05,785 concentric circles that one can see 230 00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,496 using electrical resistivity tomography, 231 00:13:08,579 --> 00:13:10,915 where they were below the surface. 232 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,836 Where the ancient city might have been. 233 00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:18,298 Then, we did core samples 234 00:13:18,381 --> 00:13:21,759 that went down into the dirt 235 00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:25,972 30, 40, 50 meters below the surface, 236 00:13:26,097 --> 00:13:30,643 and it told us there was organic matter 237 00:13:30,727 --> 00:13:35,481 that dated back to about 5000 BCE, 238 00:13:35,565 --> 00:13:38,818 some of the most ancient remains 239 00:13:38,943 --> 00:13:42,697 in this now close sedimented marsh. 240 00:13:42,864 --> 00:13:45,241 So, now we have the concentric circles, 241 00:13:45,366 --> 00:13:49,620 we have dating, so we know that this is probably the area 242 00:13:49,704 --> 00:13:53,333 where Atlantis was centered. 243 00:13:55,918 --> 00:13:58,004 SHATNER: But if there are circular structures 244 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:02,008 beneath the mud at Doñana, how did they become buried? 245 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:05,261 According to Freund, the marshes were once the site 246 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:07,889 of a large bay, and the island of Atlantis 247 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:09,974 sat in the middle of it. 248 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:12,810 He theorizes that, at some point, 249 00:14:12,894 --> 00:14:16,522 an earthquake and a tsunami struck. 250 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:20,985 ‐(people screaming) ‐The island sunk into the bay, 251 00:14:21,069 --> 00:14:26,324 and mud eventually covered the lost city. 252 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:30,536 FREUND: Plato seems to be describing, in the destruction of Atlantis, 253 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:34,040 an earthquake with a major mega‐tsunami 254 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:36,834 that basically inundated 255 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:40,838 the entire island with dirt and stone 256 00:14:40,963 --> 00:14:43,633 and they were not able to get all the people out. 257 00:14:43,758 --> 00:14:47,303 It was a catastrophic event, 258 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:53,935 and that catastrophic event should be recorded in the marsh. 259 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,854 SHATNER: Incredibly, Freund also claims 260 00:14:56,979 --> 00:14:58,981 to have found evidence underground 261 00:14:59,148 --> 00:15:02,026 not just of the structures of Atlantis 262 00:15:02,151 --> 00:15:06,406 but of the cataclysm that supposedly destroyed the city. 263 00:15:06,531 --> 00:15:08,991 It just so happens that in the middle of the circle 264 00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:12,954 where the walls of Atlantis were located, 265 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:18,584 there was a consistent methane layer in the marsh. 266 00:15:20,169 --> 00:15:22,046 SHATNER: But why is the presence of a layer of methane 267 00:15:22,171 --> 00:15:25,925 in the Doñana marsh a significant find? 268 00:15:26,008 --> 00:15:31,264 Well, methane is a gas made up of carbon and hydrogen. 269 00:15:31,389 --> 00:15:34,725 And in other studies, archaeologists have concluded 270 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:36,936 that the detection of methane in soil 271 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:40,815 can indicate the presence of large numbers of dead bodies 272 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,817 buried underground. 273 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:46,320 And Richard Freund believes that his discovery 274 00:15:46,404 --> 00:15:49,490 of a significant amount of methane at Doñana 275 00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:54,454 means that the bodies of the Atlanteans are buried there. 276 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:56,122 40 feet below the surface, 277 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:59,083 suddenly to find this sealed layer, 278 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:03,838 this is what confirms not only the date, 279 00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:07,967 the time, but what happened to most of the people. 280 00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:11,304 Humans, animals, agriculture 281 00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:14,599 had been sealed and disintegrated. 282 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:18,644 And that is one of the indicators, the methane layer. 283 00:16:18,769 --> 00:16:23,232 SHATNER: Does Richard Freund's discovery of a methane layer 284 00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:27,236 beneath the Doñana marshes suggest that Atlantis, 285 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:31,324 and the Atlanteans themselves, are buried there, 286 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:33,159 waiting to be found? 287 00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:36,662 It's an intriguing possibility. 288 00:16:36,746 --> 00:16:40,166 However, since the Doñana marsh is a wildlife reserve, 289 00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:43,127 the archaeologists are not permitted to dig there 290 00:16:43,252 --> 00:16:44,921 to try and prove their theory. 291 00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:49,467 But Freund and the Spanish archaeologists 292 00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:52,720 were determined to keep searching for answers. 293 00:16:55,556 --> 00:16:58,476 So, they sent underwater divers to investigate 294 00:16:58,601 --> 00:16:59,852 the nearby ocean floor 295 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:03,898 where they found extraordinary evidence 296 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:07,818 that an ancient city once existed in this area. 297 00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:09,987 FREUND: What they were able to discover 298 00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:13,157 was there were massive walls, 299 00:17:13,324 --> 00:17:16,994 all in the area right off of the coast. 300 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:21,499 You have to wonder "Where did they come from?" 301 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,418 So, what we were able to piece together 302 00:17:24,502 --> 00:17:28,548 is this came from a major city on the coast. 303 00:17:28,673 --> 00:17:33,761 And that city is, most likely than not, Atlantis. 304 00:17:35,012 --> 00:17:37,473 SHATNER: Is it possible that Richard Freund 305 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:40,351 has found the site where Atlantis was located, 306 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:45,481 finally proving that this lost civilization 307 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:48,150 was, in fact, real? 308 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:51,445 FREUND: The most mysterious thing about Atlantis 309 00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:56,367 is everybody knows that it was destroyed, 310 00:17:56,534 --> 00:18:01,330 and yet most people are looking for evidence 311 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:04,125 that it wasn't completely destroyed. 312 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:08,963 In my opinion, this site in southern Spain 313 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:11,632 is where Atlantis was. 314 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:14,302 SHATNER: Richard Freund believes he is on the cusp 315 00:18:14,427 --> 00:18:17,972 of uncovering the ruins of Atlantis, 316 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,558 but his theory faces stiff competition 317 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,768 from those posed by other researchers. 318 00:18:22,852 --> 00:18:25,813 In fact, there are some who argue that Atlantis 319 00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:28,566 was located at another site 320 00:18:28,691 --> 00:18:33,195 that is roughly 100 miles west, in Portugal. 321 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:36,032 And according to the man who discovered that site, 322 00:18:36,198 --> 00:18:40,369 it fits virtually every clue left by Plato, 323 00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:45,625 in a way no other place on earth can possibly match. 324 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:55,593 SHATNER: British resarcher Peter Daughtrey 325 00:18:55,718 --> 00:19:00,640 publishes a book titled Atlantis and the Silver City. 326 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:04,435 In it, Daughtry argues that if Atlantis existed, 327 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,896 the best way to find its location is to take 328 00:19:07,021 --> 00:19:12,068 a much closer, more detailed look at Plato's writings. 329 00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:14,987 Daughtrey has been exhaustively studying 330 00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:18,157 Plato's dialogues for decades, 331 00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:21,535 and is confident that he has found enough clues 332 00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:25,873 to solve the mystery of Atlantis. 333 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:29,543 When I analyze Plato, and in the second dialogue, Critias, 334 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:31,337 it gave an awful amount of detail. 335 00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:35,007 In fact, there are 100 clues, but about 40 of them 336 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:36,676 you couldn't hope to possibly find today 337 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:39,970 because they would have all gone a long time ago. 338 00:19:40,096 --> 00:19:43,182 So I distilled it down to just 60 clues 339 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,393 that we could reasonably hope to match today. 340 00:19:45,518 --> 00:19:50,106 SHATNER: When Daughtrey drilled deeper into Plato's writings, 341 00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:53,651 he concluded that Atlantis wasn't located 342 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:56,362 along the coast of Spain, 343 00:19:56,529 --> 00:20:00,241 but rather, the idyllic Algarve coast of Portugal. 344 00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:03,452 DAUGHTREY: When I'd finished researching the 60 clues, 345 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,288 all 60 fit with this area. 346 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:09,166 One of the few crops he speaks of in detail 347 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:12,336 is‐is chestnuts, sweet chestnuts. 348 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:15,131 That's one of the evocative smells in the Algarve. 349 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,134 And the sweet chestnut was endemic in Portugal, 350 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,969 and, well, Iberia. 351 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:21,762 He also said it had another clue, 352 00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:24,348 which was great wealth. 353 00:20:24,515 --> 00:20:27,143 Well, that area of southern Portugal 354 00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:29,311 was one of the wealthiest areas 355 00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:32,106 for precious metals in the world. 356 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:34,358 Phoenicians were there trading 357 00:20:34,525 --> 00:20:37,278 with the Algarve for the precious metals. 358 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,281 In fact, at one stage, so much silver 359 00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:42,992 had been taken by the Phoenicians 360 00:20:43,117 --> 00:20:45,661 from this region of southern Portugal 361 00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:49,123 back to Babylon, the bullion market crashed 362 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:51,333 because there was so much of it. 363 00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:55,629 SHATNER: But what about the biggest clue of all? 364 00:20:55,755 --> 00:21:00,468 Didn't Plato say that Atlantis was an island? 365 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:03,971 DAUGHTREY: A lot of people were looking for an island, 366 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:07,099 and the word that Plato used, the ancient Greek word, 367 00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,894 was nĂȘsos, N‐E‐S‐O‐S. 368 00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:14,148 In actual fact, the Greeks had three definitions 369 00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:15,649 of the word nĂȘsos. 370 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:17,234 One was an island. 371 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,652 The other was a big estuary 372 00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:21,280 with mudflats and rivulets of water. 373 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:23,407 And the other one was a peninsula. 374 00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:26,494 And right outside the Straits of Gibraltar 375 00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:28,871 you got the Iberian Peninsula. 376 00:21:29,038 --> 00:21:31,624 So that had been bedeviling the search for Atlantis 377 00:21:31,749 --> 00:21:33,334 for a long time, people were looking for an island. 378 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:34,752 It probably wasn't an island. 379 00:21:34,877 --> 00:21:38,964 SHATNER: But if the land, the nĂȘsos, of Atlantis 380 00:21:39,048 --> 00:21:41,133 is located in southern Portugal, 381 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,719 where exactly is the capital city? 382 00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:45,471 The one with the concentric rings, 383 00:21:45,596 --> 00:21:48,766 the massive harbor and the temple of Poseidon? 384 00:21:48,849 --> 00:21:51,310 DAUGHTREY: I turned to the clues for the city, 385 00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,729 which were 18 of the 60 clues, 386 00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:55,815 and they're very precise and detailed. 387 00:21:55,898 --> 00:22:00,736 Plato said that the capital city was less than a kilometer wide. 388 00:22:00,861 --> 00:22:03,489 It had mountains at the back of it, it was on a flat plain. 389 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:08,744 It was encircled by three rings of water and two of land, 390 00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:13,374 and the outer ring of water was a big harbor. 391 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:15,501 SHATNER: As Daughtrey searched, 392 00:22:15,626 --> 00:22:17,711 he found only one place in the region‐‐ 393 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,755 or for that matter, in the world‐‐ 394 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,760 that fits every single one of his 18 clues. 395 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:28,138 And to his surprise, that place was a city 396 00:22:28,305 --> 00:22:30,266 that is located in Portugal, 397 00:22:30,391 --> 00:22:36,313 not on the bottom of the ocean, nor buried under layers of mud: 398 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,317 the old Portuguese town of Silves. 399 00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:43,279 This ancient city, 400 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:46,073 in the Algarve region of southern Portugal, 401 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,741 is set on the Arade River, 402 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,704 which links inland Portugal to the open ocean. 403 00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:54,498 DAUGHTREY: Silves town itself is just less than a kilometer wide. 404 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:58,085 One of Plato's clues was that 405 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,546 it was only nine and a quarter kilometers from the sea. 406 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:03,340 The river that runs past Silves 407 00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:04,800 and goes, you know, out to the sea, 408 00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,261 it's exactly nine and a quarter kilometers. 409 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:10,598 Plato said that they built the buildings 410 00:23:10,681 --> 00:23:13,183 from white, black and red rock. 411 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,978 In fact, if you go to Silves now, you can see the pavement 412 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:18,814 is in white, black and red stone. 413 00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:23,319 Plato said there was a palace at the top of the island. 414 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,321 And Silves, there's an old castle there, 415 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:26,822 the biggest in Portugal. 416 00:23:26,989 --> 00:23:29,700 The current castle is on a brow of a hill 417 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:31,410 that is the same land measurements 418 00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,829 as he gave for the palace. 419 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:35,998 So all these clues match to the city. 420 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,416 There couldn't be two of them. 421 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:40,127 And it really is the final clincher, if you like, 422 00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:43,380 that that was where Plato was talking about. 423 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,634 SHATNER: According to Peter Daughtrey, 424 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,844 the city that is now called Silves 425 00:23:49,011 --> 00:23:52,181 was at the center of a vast empire that stretched 426 00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:55,142 to include the area of the Doñana marsh, 427 00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:59,146 so it's entirely possible that both he and Richard Freund 428 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:03,525 have uncovered remnants of Atlantis. 429 00:24:04,485 --> 00:24:06,320 But questions remain. 430 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,822 For instance, if Atlantis was a far‐reaching, 431 00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:13,577 seafaring nation that traveled throughout the Mediterranean, 432 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,872 then how come no ancient artifacts 433 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,501 from their civilization have ever been recovered? 434 00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:23,879 Well, a recent discovery 435 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:27,883 may have finally revealed the ancient artifacts 436 00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:31,512 that archaeologists have been searching for. 437 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,230 Marine archeologists recover dozens 438 00:24:41,355 --> 00:24:44,024 of mysterious metal bars 439 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:48,779 from an ancient shipwreck on the seafloor off of Sicily. 440 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:53,075 Metal bars that, incredibly, match the description 441 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,079 of a metal that was said to be treasured by the Atlanteans: 442 00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,248 orichalcum. 443 00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:03,168 NEWMAN: One of the mysteries of Atlantis that Plato talked about 444 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:06,088 was a type of metal called orichalcum. 445 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,716 This has been a big mystery and a big debate, 446 00:25:08,841 --> 00:25:12,386 you know, for many decades about what this really is. 447 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,096 FREUND: The archaeologists said, 448 00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:18,142 "We want to know if this is really orichalcum." 449 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:21,270 So I sent a geoscientist 450 00:25:21,395 --> 00:25:23,731 with an X‐ray fluorescence machine 451 00:25:23,856 --> 00:25:26,650 that basically can tell me the content 452 00:25:26,817 --> 00:25:30,863 of that metal without destroying the sample. 453 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:36,285 And what he discovered was it had all the characteristics 454 00:25:36,410 --> 00:25:39,371 of what orichalcum traditionally had. 455 00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:42,249 It had zinc, it had lead, 456 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:45,627 it had copper, it had tin. 457 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:50,215 And these are all materials that made orichalcum so famous. 458 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:54,511 Could the very existence of orichalcum 459 00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:58,348 really be tangible evidence that Plato's fabled 460 00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:00,976 lost continent actually existed? 461 00:26:01,143 --> 00:26:05,606 There are many who believe the answer is yes. 462 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:08,317 But does that suggest that Atlantis was located 463 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,821 somewhere off the coast of Spain, in Portugal, perhaps? 464 00:26:12,946 --> 00:26:15,741 Or could it have been somewhere else? 465 00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:20,579 Somewhere that few people would ever imagine? 466 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:29,838 SHATNER: Dayton, Ohio, November, 1923. 467 00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:32,800 Edgar Cayce, an American psychic and healer, 468 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:35,761 famous in the early 20th century 469 00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:38,138 for his ability to see into the future, 470 00:26:38,305 --> 00:26:42,684 has a profound vision while in a self‐induced trance. 471 00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,979 ‐(babbling) ‐But on this particular occasion, 472 00:26:46,063 --> 00:26:50,067 Cayce's vision was not of the future 473 00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:52,569 ‐but of the distant past. ‐(mumbles): Atlantis. 474 00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:55,531 SHATNER: He saw Atlantis. 475 00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:58,408 But the Atlantis that Cayce saw 476 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:01,578 did not resemble an ancient city. 477 00:27:03,872 --> 00:27:08,919 Edgar Cayce talks about Atlantis in his psychic readings 478 00:27:09,002 --> 00:27:13,048 as being a place of high culture. 479 00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:17,052 Civilization beyond even what we have today. 480 00:27:17,177 --> 00:27:19,847 They had everything from crystals 481 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,307 that could affect your healing in the body 482 00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,853 to death rays, even airships. 483 00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:28,981 BADER: He described Atlantis 484 00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:32,901 as a place of a much greater and much more advanced technology 485 00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,821 than either Plato or Donnelly claimed. 486 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:38,574 He claims that they were able to levitate 487 00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,117 and have psychic powers. 488 00:27:40,242 --> 00:27:42,828 The downfall of Atlantis, according to Cayce, 489 00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:47,332 was that Atlantis had developed giant crystal death rays 490 00:27:47,416 --> 00:27:50,919 and there was an internal civil war on the island, 491 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,130 that during that war, the crystal death rays 492 00:27:53,255 --> 00:27:58,677 were set off and sunk the island beneath the waves. 493 00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,805 SHATNER: Giant crystal death rays? 494 00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:08,061 As strange as it sounds, that is what Cayce said. 495 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:11,940 Researchers believe that one way to test his incredible claims 496 00:28:12,065 --> 00:28:14,610 is to look for the ruins of Atlantis 497 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:17,487 where Edgar Cayce thought it was located. 498 00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:21,533 Cayce said that Atlantis wasn't centered near the Mediterranean, 499 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,452 as most people believe, 500 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:27,164 but rather, on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. 501 00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,626 PICKNETT: Edgar Cayce described Atlantis 502 00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:33,587 as being just off the coast of Cuba, 503 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,007 and there is some quite persuasive research 504 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:41,386 about, um, Atlantis actually being off Cuba. 505 00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:46,350 COLLINS: In September, 1998, 506 00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:52,314 I went to Cuba and I hired the help of a local archeologist 507 00:28:52,439 --> 00:28:55,192 who was able to take me out to these caves. 508 00:28:55,359 --> 00:29:01,156 We found a veritable Sistine Chapel of the ancient world. 509 00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:05,577 Seven chambers full of the most incredible rock art 510 00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:09,206 showing these weird concentric circles 511 00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:12,292 that were a complete mystery to the archeologists. 512 00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:15,587 It was almost as if I had a eureka moment, 513 00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:20,926 and I realized that this could be the key to finding Atlantis. 514 00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:23,887 SHATNER: In addition to archaeological evidence 515 00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:27,140 linking Cuba to Atlantis, researchers argue 516 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,977 that there is also historical evidence, 517 00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:33,480 in the form of accounts written by Spanish explorers 518 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:35,983 in the 16th century. 519 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:40,821 In 1552, a Spanish historian 520 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:46,118 by the name of Francisco LĂłpez de GĂłmara 521 00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:51,915 actually wrote that when the Spanish did arrive in Cuba, 522 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,334 they found that the indigenous peoples 523 00:29:54,501 --> 00:29:57,629 had a tradition that once all of these islands 524 00:29:57,713 --> 00:30:00,132 were one huge continent... 525 00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:04,469 ...that had been broken apart 526 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,972 by the waters during a great cataclysm 527 00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:10,642 and split apart into the islands 528 00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:12,894 and the cays that we see today. 529 00:30:13,687 --> 00:30:15,856 SHATNER: According to geologists, 530 00:30:15,981 --> 00:30:17,649 such a cataclysm did take place 531 00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:19,985 in the Atlantic Ocean, near Cuba, 532 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:22,821 more than 10,000 years ago. 533 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:24,906 During the last ice age, 534 00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:29,870 sea levels were about 400 feet lower. 535 00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:33,707 Many of today's islands were joined into large landmasses; 536 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:37,878 island continents, you might say. 537 00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:41,131 Then the ice began to melt, creating sudden surges 538 00:30:41,214 --> 00:30:45,177 in ocean levels called meltwater pulses. 539 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,806 One particularly violent pulse wreaked havoc 540 00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:53,852 on coastlines and islands everywhere. 541 00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,314 Meltwater pulse 1B. 542 00:30:57,439 --> 00:31:02,152 Some people think that meltwater pulse 1B took place 543 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,822 precisely when Atlantis was supposed to fall. 544 00:31:05,989 --> 00:31:08,700 Now, of course, this is a theory, 545 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:11,661 'cause we're going back 10,000 years. 546 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:13,997 Some people have claimed that perhaps it was 547 00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:16,750 the sudden meltwater being released 548 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:20,796 that caused the flooding which destroyed Atlantis. 549 00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:24,716 Plato tells us that Atlantis was somewhere 550 00:31:24,841 --> 00:31:26,718 out in the Atlantic Ocean. 551 00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:28,303 But where, exactly? 552 00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:34,017 Is it possible that Atlantis awaits discovery 553 00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,186 off the coast of Cuba? 554 00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:38,313 I actually think the answer is yes. 555 00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:43,151 SHATNER: If Edgar Cayce was right, and the ruins of Atlantis 556 00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:45,821 can be found in the ocean near Cuba, 557 00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:49,616 then is it also possible that Atlantis possessed 558 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:53,495 incredibly sophisticated technology, as he described? 559 00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:55,872 Perhaps even technology 560 00:31:55,997 --> 00:31:59,918 that is more advanced than our own. 561 00:32:00,043 --> 00:32:04,881 Airships, levitation, psych powers. 562 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:07,050 Sounds like something out of science fiction, 563 00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:09,761 until we remember that, according to Plato, 564 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:13,098 Atlantis was created by Poseidon, 565 00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:17,144 the Greek god of the sea, and ruled by his children. 566 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,146 And there are some who believe that 567 00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:22,816 those same Greek gods were actually 568 00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:25,569 extraterrestrial visitors. 569 00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:29,489 But that's all too far‐fetched for rational minds 570 00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:31,575 like ours to accept. 571 00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:35,287 Or is it? 572 00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:46,840 SHATNER: Standing in the center of the National Archaeological Museum 573 00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:49,801 is an ancient statue that is referred to as 574 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:52,471 Poseidon of Melos. 575 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,141 Dated to the second century BC, 576 00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:59,102 it depicts the Greek god Poseidon who, 577 00:32:59,186 --> 00:33:02,856 according to Plato, was both the ruler of the sea 578 00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:06,151 and the founder of Atlantis. 579 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:12,282 We hear from Plato that the gods drew lots 580 00:33:12,365 --> 00:33:15,285 and divided up the world into areas 581 00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,162 that they would be responsible for. 582 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:21,791 And Poseidon receives an island, 583 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:24,920 and he finds a human woman on the island, 584 00:33:25,045 --> 00:33:26,630 falls in love with her, 585 00:33:26,755 --> 00:33:29,299 and they have five sets of twins. 586 00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:33,929 And the firstborn of the first set of twins he names Atlas, 587 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:37,224 and he makes him the king of Atlantis. 588 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:40,018 So the island is named for that Atlas, 589 00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,312 as is the Atlantic Ocean 590 00:33:42,395 --> 00:33:45,148 in which the island was situated. 591 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:48,068 The original inhabitants of Atlantis, 592 00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:51,321 the Atlanteans themselves, because they are 593 00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:55,242 the descendants of a god, they are like gods themselves. 594 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:58,453 They're not gods on the level of Poseidon, 595 00:33:58,578 --> 00:34:03,375 but they are endowed with supernatural powers of sorts. 596 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:08,088 BURDORFF: They have the best technology, they have the most resources, 597 00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:11,800 they have civilization crafted by a god 598 00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:14,636 for their greatest benefit. 599 00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:20,016 SHATNER: Were the Atlanteans really supernatural beings 600 00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,520 with advanced technology who descended from a god? 601 00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:27,440 Sounds like a wild fantasy. 602 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:31,027 But, just like the rest of the Atlantis story, 603 00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:34,406 it begs the question: is there any way 604 00:34:34,531 --> 00:34:37,325 that it could possibly be true? 605 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:42,872 Plato said the Atlanteans were the children of the gods. 606 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,417 They were hybrid beings. 607 00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:48,295 They were part human, part god, 608 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:51,756 where the gods have created this race of beings. 609 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,260 Many people have long believed that this story is true, 610 00:34:55,385 --> 00:34:56,886 but they weren't really gods, 611 00:34:57,012 --> 00:34:58,805 they were actually extraterrestrials, 612 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:01,182 and they mated with human females 613 00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:03,143 and created a hybrid race. 614 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:07,314 This is a story that has all kinds of hallmarks 615 00:35:07,397 --> 00:35:10,442 of genetic engineering and the influence of 616 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,570 an extraterrestrial with this technology. 617 00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,197 It sounds like quite a far‐out idea, 618 00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:20,118 but there's a lot of analogies in myths 619 00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,245 that don't really make sense unless you look at it 620 00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:25,373 ‐from a technical perspective. ‐(thunder crashes) 621 00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:27,334 HENRY: In Plato's dialogues, he makes it clear that 622 00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:31,087 Atlantis is a place of genuine history. 623 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,632 So what the story is actually telling us 624 00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:36,926 is that there were actual beings that came to Earth 625 00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:41,556 and influenced human affairs by creating hybrid offspring. 626 00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:47,187 SHATNER: Extraterrestrial hybrids. 627 00:35:47,312 --> 00:35:49,939 If this fascinating theory is true, 628 00:35:50,023 --> 00:35:52,233 could it be that the advanced technology 629 00:35:52,359 --> 00:35:56,154 associated with Atlantis was brought to Earth... 630 00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:58,406 from another world? 631 00:35:58,531 --> 00:36:01,576 And perhaps more profoundly, if the Atlanteans 632 00:36:01,701 --> 00:36:04,287 descended from extraterrestrials, 633 00:36:04,371 --> 00:36:09,834 could it be that they didn't just disappear, 634 00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:12,462 but actually went home? 635 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,132 One of the big problems of Atlantis 636 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,510 is where is it? Where did it go? 637 00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,513 There's so many places around the world 638 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,641 that Atlantis is said to have existed: 639 00:36:24,766 --> 00:36:30,355 Antarctica, the Mediterranean, Cuba and other places. 640 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:33,024 One of the ideas is that it actually was 641 00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:36,444 some kind of spaceship that lifted off 642 00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:39,823 and then would go and land in another location. 643 00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:41,991 So many of the stories we often find in Greek myths 644 00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:46,204 do talk about these stars falling from the sky 645 00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:48,957 and creating these islands in the ocean. 646 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,628 So Atlantis could have actually took off and left Earth. 647 00:36:53,753 --> 00:36:57,924 HENRY: Cultures all around the world talk about humans deciding 648 00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,843 to ascend or leave the planet because of 649 00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:01,261 an impending cataclysm; 650 00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:03,722 a coming apocalypse, like a great flood 651 00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:06,182 or a cataclysm of that nature. 652 00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:09,018 And this is what we might be seeing in Atlantis, 653 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:11,020 where they know this cataclysm's coming, 654 00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:14,691 and they decide it's time to move into the stars. 655 00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:20,029 SHATNER: Atlantis a spaceship? 656 00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:22,532 It's an audacious theory. 657 00:37:22,699 --> 00:37:24,534 Which, perhaps, is what you must expect 658 00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,786 when an entire continent vanishes 659 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,455 from the face of the earth. 660 00:37:29,539 --> 00:37:34,377 But... did Atlantis really leave no trace? 661 00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:39,132 Or, in fact, could there be a reflection of the lost continent 662 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:40,717 in the modern world, 663 00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:42,177 and in the last place 664 00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:46,598 anyone would expect to find it? 665 00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:55,940 SHATNER: Orlando, Florida. 1966. 666 00:37:56,065 --> 00:37:58,485 Only months before his death, 667 00:37:58,568 --> 00:38:03,323 Walt Disney announces his most ambitious project to date. 668 00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:05,575 DAVE BOSSERT: In 1966, 669 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:10,330 really one of the last things that Walt talked about publicly 670 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:14,793 was his designs for EPCOT, 671 00:38:14,918 --> 00:38:20,882 which stands for Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow. 672 00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:25,637 And he had been amassing property 673 00:38:25,762 --> 00:38:29,349 in the Orlando area of Florida for a number of years 674 00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:32,143 before he finally made this announcement. 675 00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:35,063 SHATNER: In the years following Disney's death, 676 00:38:35,188 --> 00:38:37,565 the EPCOT project moved forward. 677 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:39,651 But without Disney's personal guidance, 678 00:38:39,776 --> 00:38:42,278 his ambitious plans were scaled back. 679 00:38:43,238 --> 00:38:44,823 In his original vision, 680 00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,951 EPCOT was to be not just a tourist attraction, 681 00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,495 but an actual city, 682 00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:53,790 a place where thousands would live and work‐‐ 683 00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:55,500 a utopia. 684 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:58,294 BOSSERT: The designers, the Imagineers, 685 00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:00,213 Walt Disney, were all looking to see 686 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,758 if they could create this utopian society. 687 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,970 And you have to remember, as they were designing this, 688 00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:12,016 there was the cultural upheaval of the 1960s starting to go on. 689 00:39:12,141 --> 00:39:14,269 SHATNER: But there's one thing 690 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,980 few people know about EPCOT. 691 00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,315 Both Disney's original design 692 00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:22,360 and the version that was ultimately built 693 00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:25,655 resemble, to a remarkable degree, 694 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:28,575 Plato's description of Atlantis, 695 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:32,328 right down to the concentric rings. 696 00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:37,000 So, with EPCOT, you had this center core, 697 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,960 which would have been the office buildings 698 00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:40,753 and live industry, 699 00:39:40,837 --> 00:39:43,131 and you had these concentric rings 700 00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,300 that radiated out from that, 701 00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:49,679 with greenbelts separating different areas, 702 00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:54,267 and this is very similar to the description that Plato gave. 703 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:57,437 And instead of greenbelts, they were waterways. 704 00:39:59,022 --> 00:40:02,609 SHATNER: Was Walt Disney creating a modern‐day Atlantis, 705 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:05,069 perhaps without even realizing it? 706 00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,988 BOSSERT: No one really knows 707 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:10,199 what were those thoughts that floated through his head 708 00:40:10,366 --> 00:40:13,745 about the lost city of Atlantis. 709 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:15,914 What was he thinking about it? 710 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,498 What did he believe? 711 00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:19,375 We'll never know that. 712 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,629 I firmly believe that if Walt Disney 713 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:25,381 had lived another 20 years, 714 00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:29,636 we may have seen his vision of EPCOT 715 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,388 really be a modern‐day version 716 00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:34,891 of the lost city of Atlantis. 717 00:40:36,851 --> 00:40:38,144 â™Ș â™Ș 718 00:40:38,311 --> 00:40:40,521 McNEILL: The idea of a utopian society 719 00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:44,525 has always captured imaginations. 720 00:40:44,692 --> 00:40:48,154 And the way that this intentionally planned community 721 00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:52,867 was conceived and designed and executed 722 00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:55,662 speaks to the power 723 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:59,165 of those models of utopian societies that have come to us 724 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,251 out of antiquity and tradition. 725 00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:04,921 Whether it's actually still there to be found, 726 00:41:05,004 --> 00:41:07,674 or whether it's been so badly destroyed 727 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,801 that no evidence of it remains, 728 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:12,136 what's really happened to Atlantis, we don't know, 729 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,973 but I think one day we'll find evidence of it. 730 00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:19,936 Could an advanced civilization, 731 00:41:20,061 --> 00:41:24,774 with technology beyond our wildest dreams, 732 00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:28,611 have existed here on Earth thousands of years ago? 733 00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:32,073 It's certainly a compelling notion. 734 00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:36,661 But maybe Atlantis was always meant to be a myth, 735 00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:40,623 a utopian city that was conceived as an elusive goal 736 00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:42,709 for mankind to achieve, 737 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:46,421 like Camelot or Shangri‐la. 738 00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,840 In any case, if Atlantis did exist, 739 00:41:48,965 --> 00:41:51,092 let's hope that someday we find it. 740 00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,470 It would be a shame if all those legendary wonders 741 00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:58,391 stayed hidden and those secrets remained... 742 00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,518 unexplained. 743 00:42:00,643 --> 00:42:03,104 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 59994

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