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WILLIAM SHATNER:
Powerful prophets
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that can predict the fall
of empires.
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(bomb whistling, explosion)
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Disturbing dreams...
that envision deadly crimes.
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And nightmare visions
from which victims...
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never wake up.
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Can people really see
the future?
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Receive messages
from across time and space?
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For centuries, seers
and prophets have come forward
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offering dramatic visions
of mankind's destiny.
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But what happens
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when the predictions turn...
deadly?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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âȘ âȘ
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Craig HamiltonâParker,
an English psychicnd medium,
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posts a series of prophecies
on his websiteââ
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some of them quite ominous
and even oddly disturbing.
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I've been a psychic medium
all my life,
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in touch with the spirit world,
and sometimes make predictions.
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And in 2015, I decided to put
some predictions on my website.
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I said that there'd be
a massive earthquake in Japan.
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I wrote that Brexit would
happen, and at the time,
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everybody was saying,
"It's never gonna happen.
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Everybody's gonna vote
to remain. There's no chance."
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I saw terrorist attacks
in Nice in my vision,
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and I put those
in my predictions.
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Sometimes I don't like
telling the future.
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SHATNER:
Within a year,
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the predictions
Craig made came surprisingly,
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and in some cases frighteningly,
true.
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On April 16, 2016,
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Kumamoto, Japan was shaken
by a 7.0 magnitude earthquake.
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50 people were killed, and more
than 3,000 people injured.
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And then, on June 23,
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over half of Great Britain voted
to approve Brexit
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and leave the European Union.
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Finally, on July 14,
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a 19âton truck
driven by a terrorist plowed
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through a crowded market
in Nice, France,
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killing 86 people
and injuring over 400.
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Of course, not all of Craig's
prophecies ended up happening.
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For instance, he'd predicted
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that a gas attack would take
place in a European city,
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but there was no such attack
in Europe that year.
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But the fact that he got three
out of four predictions right
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led many to believe
that his uncanny ability
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to see the future
couldn't have been a mere fluke.
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The natural question
that people have is,
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"Where does a prediction
come from?
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Where is the soâcalled psychic
getting this information from?"
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The first explanation
we go to is
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that it's some sort
of psychosis,
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but that doesn't really hold up
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because you can't turn crazy
on and off.
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And the fact is,
if you meet most of these folk,
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and I've met plenty of them,
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they're perfectly ordinary,
everyday functioning people.
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SHATNER:
According to Craig,
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his ability to see events
before they happen
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is one he was born with.
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Since childhood,
he surprised his family
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with what he called
"flashes of the future,"
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glimpses of things that hadn't
yet come to pass, but often did.
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And in his early twenties,
he decided
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to make a journey to India,
where he studied the writings
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of ancient oracles,
and honed his raw talent.
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HAMILTONâPARKER:
So I became very interested
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in this idea that
there's an ancient tradition
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that goes back
right through time
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over many, many centuries, maybe
back tens of thousands of years.
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For me, seeing the future is
a bit like
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a dream experience
in many respects.
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I use an old technique
from India called "Trataka,"
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which, I look into a candle,
basically.
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You go into a sort of a state
of gazing,
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and then move the image
of that candle
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into the middle
of what we call "the third eye."
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And you'll see it
as an afterimage
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on the back of the eye,
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where all these visions
will appear.
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I see thingsââ things I know,
things I don't know.
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It's like the universe
knows better than I do.
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It gave me this information,
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and it's kind of my duty
to put it out there.
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SHATNER:
In the fall of 2016,
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another of Craig's propheciesââ
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this time about
the U. S. presidential electionââ
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came to pass.
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HAMILTONâPARKER:
I kept getting glimpses of
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this strange character,
you know.
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And I thought,
"Who on Earth is this?"
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And then suddenly,
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Trump announces himself
in the primaries,
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and then I knew
that's what I'd been seeing.
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That was this strange figure
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that kept coming
into my meditations
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and interrupting,
uh, my thoughts.
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Clearly, for me,
Trump was gonna be president,
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even though everybody
at this time was saying,
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"He don't stand a chance
of ever being president."
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But the unconscious seemed
to know better.
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SHATNER:
But how is Craig actually
getting these messages
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about the future?
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Are they really coming
from his unconscious mind?
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Precognition is, um,
the scientific term
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for things like premonitions.
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And it's getting
accurate information
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about a future event
that you didn't cause.
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MICHIO KAKU:
We think that the brain,
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no matter how complicated
and nonâlinear it is,
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is still something
that could be reduced down
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to the laws of physics.
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Now that doesn't mean that the
brain can't imagine the future.
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We are genetically hardwired
to have premonitions.
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We can't stop it.
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It's part of our makeup.
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ANNE CLEARY:
The feeling of premonition
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might be an example
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of how our memories orient us
toward the future.
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(tires squealing, thud)
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So, current thinking among
memory researchers is
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that our memories are not useful
to us so much
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for their ability to enable us
to recollect the past
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as they are useful to us
for enabling us
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to navigate
and predict the future.
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And from that perspective,
the idea that déjà vu,
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which might result
from a memory process,
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might be accompanied by feelings
of premonition, fits that.
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HOROWITZ:
If somebody has
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an authentic intuitive
or insightful giftââ
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and I do think
such things existââ
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I think it's a kind of ESP
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in which certain individuals
are able to glean information
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in anomalous ways,
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in ways that go beyond
our ordinary five senses.
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NICK POPE:
The Internet, TV talk shows,
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and the bestâseller lists
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are full of prophets
and prognosticators
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claiming to be able
to divine the future.
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And in a number of these cases,
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they really seem
to be able to do it.
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SHATNER:
If it's true
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that there are such things
as real psychics,
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then where exactly does
their incredible gift come from,
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and how can we better
understand it?
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According to some researchers,
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the explanation doesn't lie
in the distant future,
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but rather, the ancient past.
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RABBI ARIEL BAR TZADOK:
The Bible makes it very clear
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that biblical prophets
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were not arbitrary individuals,
men or women,
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who were just as if
minding their own business,
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and then God chose them.
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It wasn't like that at all.
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It was an internal experience
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that the Bible calls a dream
or a vision.
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If you do not learn
how to understand dreams,
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you will never understand
their message.
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It is very clearly said
in the Bible
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that prophets had
to go to school
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to learn how to experience
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and interpret the spiritual
message which we call prophecy.
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And the biblical teachings
of prophecy were not limited
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to those of the religious world.
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Many people have been trained
in these techniques,
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and we don't even realize it.
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SHATNER:
Trained to see the future?
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Could such a farfetched
but also tantalizing notion
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actually be possible?
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I think our generation is on the
precipice of a great question
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about the extraâphysical
abilities of the mind.
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I don't know
that we'll answer it,
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but I think it is coming
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more and more into focus
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that materialism
just doesn't cover
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all the bases of life anymore,
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and that the mind
has capacities,
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including
extraâphysical capacities,
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that are measurable,
that are present,
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and that we're only beginning
to understand.
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HAMILTONâPARKER:
It's a natural part
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of the human condition
to make predictions.
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And couldn't it be that maybe
our predictive ability
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is far greater
than we've ever imagined?
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That maybe every one of us
somehow has a way
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of seeing
into the fabric of time?
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We just have
to trust that ability.
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SHATNER:
If each of us could learn
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how to predict the future,
would we accept our fate,
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or fight to change it?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
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by studying the prophecies
of the man who is considered
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one of the greatest prophets
of all timeââ
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Nostradamus.
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SHATNER:
Astrologer and physician
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Michel de Nostradamus
publishes a volume
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of fourâline poems,
called "quatrains."
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Readers at the time are confused
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by the author's use
of multiple languages,
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word puzzles,
and what was even then
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considered antiquated syntax.
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But perhaps even more baffling
is the volume's title,
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Les Prophetiesââ
The Prophecies.
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HOGUE:
Nostradamus had become
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initially famous
as an almanac writer.
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You've got to understand
that this is
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during the time
of the printing revolution,
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and he was one of its first
bestâselling authors.
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And then he embarked
on a history of the future,
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which would look at everything
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up to the year 3797 AD,
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nearly 1,800 years from now,
and beyond.
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SHATNER:
The Prophecies
was initially met
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with outright skepticism
and derision.
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Many believed Nostradamus
to be either a fraud
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or mentally ill,
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possibly both,
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likely due to the fact
that one of his verses
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scandalously foretold
of a particularly gory death
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for Henry II,
the king of France.
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HOGUE:
Nostradamus made a prediction
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about Henry II dying
in a jousting accident.
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â(neighing)
âQuatrain 35
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read that a young lion
would face the old
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in traditional combat.
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He shall be pierced
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through a gilded cage.
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Two wounds made one.
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The joust happened exactly
as he foretold it.
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Both men had lions
on their shields.
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Large shards went through
the gilded visor of the king.
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One penetrated his forehead
into his brain,
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the other in between his eye
and socket,
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destroying his eye.
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And he died of infection
of the brain ten days later,
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an agonizing death.
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SHATNER:
After the king's death,
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Nostradamus' reputation as a
seer of the future grew rapidly,
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which was, at the time,
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not necessarily a good thing.
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It is wellâknown
that Nostradamus concealed
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the nature of his prophecies,
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which, at that time,
was very politically incorrect
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and could have gotten him
in a lot of trouble.
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He would come into
great conflict with the church
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if he pâput himself
on a pedestal and be like
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Noah or Moses
or people like this.
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SHATNER:
Despite the controversy,
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The Prophecies
eventually became
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one of the most widely read
books in the world.
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It both astounded and terrified
readers with its predictions
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about dreadful events to come.
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â(whispering)
âIs it possible
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Nostradamus received
his prophetic visions
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because he was in touch
with a higher power?
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It's an interesting theory
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and could help explain
how Nostradamus was able to see
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and know things that
would not happen for centuries,
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things he was trying
to warn us about.
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â(whistling)
â(explosion)
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1942.
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With World War II
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wreaking havoc throughout Europe
and the Pacific,
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it wasn't only the latest news
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from the front lines
making headlines
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but also Nostradamus
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and his prophecy centering
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on the rise of a man
named Hister.
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HOGUE:
What triggered
his international fame
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was a reference five times
in his prophecies
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about a man named Hister
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with a Gothic "S,"
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which has a "T" crossed.
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Another push, push,
nudge, nudge, perhaps,
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in his work.
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Hister is the ancient name
of the river Danube.
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Adolf Hitler grew up
on the river Danube.
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Nostradamus had a pattern
of using a place as a person.
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The river is a code,
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and the things
that are said in the other parts
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of the prophecies indicate
that it's a man.
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The man who's called
the captain of greater Germany.
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SHATNER:
Is it possible
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Nostradamus predicted the rise
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of one of the most evil men
in history?
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According to many who
have studied these quatrains,
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the answer is yes.
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And as evidence,
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they point
to other things he foresaw,
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things that a person who lived
and died in the 16th century
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could never know
would one day exist.
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This happened many times for me,
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when I want to just slap
the book shut
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and say, "Oh, come on."
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And then names
suddenly come out.
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A man named de Gaulle
will lead France three times.
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And it's factually true.
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Charles de Gaulle
led the free French,
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led the provisional government
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and then, finally,
in his final years,
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was president of Franceââ
three times.
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And that's one of hundreds
of things I can cite.
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How does he do this?
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HOROWITZ:
Nostradamus is one
of the most enduring names,
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perhaps the most enduring name,
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in postâbiblical prophecy.
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His quatrains have been applied
to hundreds upon hundreds
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of events throughout history,
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and people continue to feel
that they can learn
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what's around the next corner
by studying his quatrains.
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HAMILTONâPARKER:
Nostradamus fascinates us,
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because it's perhaps part
of our fear instinct, isn't it?
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When we're in difficult times,
we turn to the seers,
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we turn to the prophets
to try to find out can they give
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some insight into
these chaotic times we live in,
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particularly in today's time.
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SHATNER:
If it's true
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that Nostradamus was able
to predict so many things
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with such incredible accuracy,
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why aren't we scouring his works
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in order to prevent
the next natural catastrophe
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or world war?
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Perhaps because,
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as scholars of Nostradamus
have to admit,
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of the thousands
of prophecies he made
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over the course of his life,
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only a small fraction
have actually come true.
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And even his seemingly
accurate predictions
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have been questioned.
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HAMILTONâPARKER:
We kind of have a double problem
with Nostradamus in some ways,
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because some of the predictions
are a bit vague
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and people can project all sorts
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of things
into these vague predictions
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and then relate them to
something that's happening now.
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But, also,
sometimes they take
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two completely unrelated
sentences,
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put them together,
and it seems to relate
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to something we have today.
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KAKU:
The brain is a patternâseeking
learning machine.
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It constantly sees patterns,
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even when they're not there.
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Um, in fact, there's a name
for it, apophenia.
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We can't help it,
because sometimes we were right.
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Then we make leaps of logic.
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What does he mean?
What did he really mean by that?
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And then we try
to make sense of it,
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because that's what
the brain does.
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SHATNER:
Are Nostradamus' predictions
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merely the ramblings
of a madman,
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which people
deliberately interpret
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in order to fit history
after the fact?
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As with anything,
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it all depends on who you ask.
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HOGUE:
What makes Nostradamus
so relevant today
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is that he's found a way
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through his obscurity
to make everybody a sleuthsayer,
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a detective.
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He understood
that it would keep him topical
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for four and a half centuries.
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He even said that,
"When I'm dead,
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I will be far more famous than
I ever was while I'm alive."
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SHATNER:
For skeptics,
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the enduring mystery
of Nostradamus
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is nothing more than a testament
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to the power
of wishful thinking.
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â(sirens wailing)
âBut others insist
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that if we paid closer attention
to his prophecies,
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we might have been able
to prevent
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one of the greatest tragedies
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of the last one hundred years,
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9/11.
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(shouting)
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MAN:
Whoa, whoa!
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SHATNER:
19 terrorists overwhelm
the flight crews
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of four passenger planes
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and send each of them crashing
into prearranged targets.
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â(sirens wailing)
â(screaming)
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MAN:
Get out of here! Get out!
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SHATNER:
They are chosen to inflict
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massive casualties and cripple
the morale of the United States.
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(screaming)
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It is a tragedy
that has become a permanent part
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of our collective consciousness
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and a day
that forever changed the world.
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But had the event
been predicted?
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â(siren wailing)
âAnd if so,
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could it have been prevented?
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"I'm gonna die soon,
and it's gonna be a plane crash
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or a car accident."
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That's what my sister told me
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about two weeks
before the planes crashed
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into the towers on 9/11.
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My sister and I
were super, super close.
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She was eight years older
than me,
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so she was like a second mom.
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My mom and my sister
and I were all very close,
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like a warm family.
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Marisa had a job
at Cantor Fitzgerald,
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which occupied the top floors
of Tower One.
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On the eve of September 11...
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September 10
is my mom's birthday,
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and we all were invited
by my sister
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to Windows on the World,
the top of Tower One.
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And, um,
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you know, everything I talked
to her about that night
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was kind of like she was talking
to me for the last time,
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in a weird way.
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And I thought back, you know,
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a few weeks before
when she said,
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"I know I'm gonna die,
and it's gonna be soon."
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And, uh, she started to cry.
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And I said,
"How do you know that?"
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She said, "Just trust me.
I know I'm going to."
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Never in a million years
did I think
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a plane was about to smash
right into where we were sitting
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just about 12 hours later.
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Everyone died
that was at Cantor,
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because the plane hit perfectly.
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My sister was, um...
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one of those people.
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SHATNER:
Since 2001,
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hundreds of accounts
similar to Marisa DiNardo's
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have surfaced,
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all of them suggesting that,
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in the days and weeks leading up
to the tragic event,
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many of the 9/11 victims
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had dreadful premonitions
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about some sort
of deadly catastrophe.
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DINARDO:
I remember hearing
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about a story
where a man had a dream
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of a plane hitting a building
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a few days before 9/11.
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I also remember reading
about a woman
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that was sitting
at the PATH station
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and had this vision
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of the World Trade Center
falling on her.
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It was the same week
that 9/11 happened.
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There was, um, another story
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of a man that didn't want to get
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on to one of the flights
because of aâa dream
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orâor a premonition that he had.
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SHATNER:
According to some experts,
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these premonitions,
unlike predictions made
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by soâcalled
"professional prophets,"
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are a part
of an innate, biological
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earlyâwarning system
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that all of us possess.
448
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Usually intuition is more
of a gut feeling or a feeling
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that you just knew something,
and it typically results
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from pattern recognition,
or our mind's ability
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to very quickly decipher
patterns in the environment.
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And because we usually
can't articulate the basis
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of our gut feeling
or how we just knew something,
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it can often feel
like ESP or a sixth sense
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or like we had
a successful premonition.
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SHATNER:
If humans do have
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an instinctual danger sense,
designed to help us
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anticipate what's
around the corner,
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could that explain
how so many people
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seemed to know
the 9/11 attacks were coming?
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There are some who believe the
answer may be found by examining
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a strange occurrence that
happened on that fateful day.
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HOROWITZ: There was
a paranormal research lab
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at Princeton University
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that placed a number
of machines around the world,
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referred to
as random number generators.
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A random number generator
is actually
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a machine that you use
all the time.
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It spits out
a random pattern of numbers.
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And it's used to create
passwords for Web sites
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or safes or any number of
devices that need to be secure.
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There are millionâtoâone odds
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against any patterns showing up
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in the data that comes out
of a random number generator.
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What the Princeton
researchers found
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00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:05,508
was that when the tragedy
of 9/11 occurred,
477
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,386
these random number generators
demonstrated
478
00:23:08,511 --> 00:23:10,930
an interruption
in the random pattern.
479
00:23:11,055 --> 00:23:15,351
They demonstrated symmetry
where there shouldn't be any.
480
00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:18,772
SHATNER:
Patterns created by machines
481
00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,690
programmed to avoid them?
482
00:23:20,815 --> 00:23:24,527
There are many who believe that
the soâcalled "computer glitch"
483
00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:27,197
that occurred at the same
time as the 9/11 attacks
484
00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:31,493
was no mere coincidence.
485
00:23:31,576 --> 00:23:33,995
And according
to researchers familiar with
486
00:23:34,078 --> 00:23:38,541
the Princeton incident, certain
events, such as catastrophes,
487
00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:43,213
actually have tangible,
measurable effects
488
00:23:43,338 --> 00:23:47,675
not only on humans,
but on electronic devices.
489
00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:51,304
Could it be that major events
that have a huge effect
490
00:23:51,387 --> 00:23:55,058
on history maybe act like
a sort of a bomb of some sort?
491
00:23:55,183 --> 00:23:57,602
That send ripples through time,
492
00:23:57,727 --> 00:23:59,771
both forward in time
and backwards in time?
493
00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:04,400
And people see this, we see it
like a light on the horizon.
494
00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,362
We see parts of it,
but not all of it.
495
00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:10,573
We get the energy
from the future
496
00:24:10,698 --> 00:24:14,911
reaching back to us
here in the past.
497
00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:18,790
I believe that there is
498
00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:21,292
certainly a higher power,
499
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:23,837
an energy or whatever
you want to call it
500
00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:28,216
'cause I really do feel
with every sense of my being
501
00:24:28,341 --> 00:24:31,928
that my sister knew
and that she was going.
502
00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:35,765
I mean, how else can you explain
the things she said
503
00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:40,562
and, uh, what she knew.
504
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:44,774
Could the horrifying
attacks of September the 11th
505
00:24:44,899 --> 00:24:46,025
have been prevented,
506
00:24:46,109 --> 00:24:49,362
not by law enforcement,
but by those who literally
507
00:24:49,445 --> 00:24:51,656
saw it happen in advance?
508
00:24:51,739 --> 00:24:56,494
There are those who believe
that not only is the answer yes,
509
00:24:56,578 --> 00:25:01,040
but that the ability to predict
the future can be harnessed
510
00:25:01,165 --> 00:25:03,209
in an effort to ensure
511
00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:05,920
mankind's destiny.
512
00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:17,849
SHATNER:
News organizations broadcast
513
00:25:17,932 --> 00:25:22,687
a series of horrific images that
stun viewers across the country.
514
00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:27,942
A tidal wave of mud and shale
has swallowed the small,
515
00:25:28,067 --> 00:25:33,406
coalâmining town
of Aberfan in its entirety.
516
00:25:33,531 --> 00:25:37,452
Of the 144 people
killed by the landslide,
517
00:25:37,577 --> 00:25:40,747
116 are schoolchildren.
518
00:25:40,872 --> 00:25:43,166
And for this
tightâknit community,
519
00:25:43,249 --> 00:25:47,378
many of whom have lived
in Aberfan for generations,
520
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:50,423
the loss is devastating.
521
00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,550
POPE:
One of the first people
522
00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:57,472
to respond to the disaster
is psychiatrist John Barker.
523
00:25:58,556 --> 00:26:00,308
Initially, he arrives
524
00:26:00,391 --> 00:26:03,561
to offer consultation
to the survivors.
525
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,397
VIVANCO: So, when he gets there,
he's interviewing
526
00:26:06,522 --> 00:26:08,691
parents that had lost children.
527
00:26:08,775 --> 00:26:13,905
He was really surprised to hear
that there were premonitions
528
00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:15,698
before it happened.
529
00:26:15,782 --> 00:26:19,452
One boy drew a picture of people
amassed on the hillside,
530
00:26:19,577 --> 00:26:22,288
digging into it, and he wrote
underneath, "the end."
531
00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:25,416
Also, there was
532
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,503
a young girl who told
her mom about a dream where
533
00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:31,923
she said there was
this black mass over the school
534
00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:33,508
and she couldn't get in.
535
00:26:33,591 --> 00:26:38,596
Both of these children
later went to school and died.
536
00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:43,184
POPE:
Barker begins to wonder whether
537
00:26:43,267 --> 00:26:45,186
these premonitions could be used
538
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:48,314
as a sort
of early warning system
539
00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:52,110
that might prevent
future disasters.
540
00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,738
So he asked Peter Fairley,
who ran the science desk
541
00:26:55,863 --> 00:27:00,243
at the national newspaper,
the London Evening Standard,
542
00:27:00,368 --> 00:27:02,328
to consider setting up a program
543
00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,914
to collate people's
premonitions.
544
00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:09,877
Fairley not only agreed,
but he set up
545
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:14,048
an entire bureau
to act as a focal point.
546
00:27:14,173 --> 00:27:17,552
Starting in January 1967,
547
00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:20,388
the bureau commences operations.
548
00:27:20,471 --> 00:27:22,807
Reports come in,
and the bureau staffââ
549
00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:27,854
they devise an 11âpoint system,
looking for patterns.
550
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:33,026
Five points for unusualness,
five points for accuracy,
551
00:27:33,067 --> 00:27:34,736
and one point for timing.
552
00:27:34,861 --> 00:27:37,655
SHATNER:
The British Premonitions Bureau,
553
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,615
as it would come to be called,
554
00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:43,953
collected 469 predictions
in its first year.
555
00:27:45,371 --> 00:27:49,917
Unsurprisingly,
many never came true.
556
00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:53,504
But those submitted
by two individualsââ
557
00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:56,174
Alan Hencher
and Lorna Middletonââ
558
00:27:56,257 --> 00:27:57,884
stood out from the crowd.
559
00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:01,220
POPE:
Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton
560
00:28:01,345 --> 00:28:04,807
made headlines in March 1967
561
00:28:04,891 --> 00:28:08,644
when they both predicted
a train accident
562
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:14,358
just days before a passenger car
derailed, killing 49 people.
563
00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:19,072
Hencher also had a premonition
about a fatal plane crash,
564
00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,533
predicting the number of people
who would die.
565
00:28:22,658 --> 00:28:25,661
That kind of accuracy
is staggering.
566
00:28:25,745 --> 00:28:27,872
SHATNER:
For John Barker,
567
00:28:27,997 --> 00:28:29,999
the notion that Hencher
and Middleton's predictions
568
00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:33,503
might allow him to warn people
of disasters ahead of time
569
00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:36,672
was an exciting one.
570
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,133
For the next year, he sent
hundreds of what he believed
571
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,718
to be credible predictions
572
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:44,013
to the editors of
the London Evening Standard.
573
00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:48,851
But in the summer of 1968,
574
00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:52,688
there was one deadly premonition
that he chose to ignore.
575
00:28:52,772 --> 00:28:54,315
â(phone ringing)
âOne that was shared
576
00:28:54,398 --> 00:28:56,567
by both Hencher and Middleton,
577
00:28:56,692 --> 00:28:59,529
and it involved
John Barker himself.
578
00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,489
VIVANCO:
Around 1:00 in the morning,
579
00:29:01,572 --> 00:29:03,658
Hencher calls Barker.
580
00:29:03,741 --> 00:29:05,785
He's in a panic.
581
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,037
He's got
aâa terrible premonition.
582
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,248
He says,
"Do you have a dark car?"
583
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:12,083
Barker says, "Yes."
584
00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:14,752
And he tells Barker,
"You have to be careful.
585
00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:17,004
Be very, very careful."
586
00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:20,591
Then Barker asks him,
"What? Am I in danger?"
587
00:29:20,716 --> 00:29:23,010
Hencher says, "Yes."
588
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:27,515
POPE:
Barker wrote a memo the next day
589
00:29:27,598 --> 00:29:31,561
explaining
that Hencher could only explain
590
00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:35,314
that the dark car was somehow
connected to Barker
591
00:29:35,398 --> 00:29:37,650
and a potentially
deadly outcome.
592
00:29:37,733 --> 00:29:39,318
It all seemed pretty vague,
593
00:29:39,402 --> 00:29:42,697
and perhaps that wouldn't
have worried Barker so much
594
00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,783
were it not for the fact
that there was another warning
595
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:49,537
from his other superstar
Lorna Middleton.
596
00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:51,789
(siren blaring)
597
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,833
SHATNER:
On August 18, 1968,
598
00:29:53,916 --> 00:29:55,918
less than two years
after he had opened
599
00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:57,670
his Bureau of Premonitions,
600
00:29:57,753 --> 00:30:01,841
John Barker was suddenly rushed
to the hospital.
601
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:07,013
POPE:
Barker died of a sudden
brain hemorrhage, age 44.
602
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:11,726
The British Premonitions Bureau
closed down shortly thereafter.
603
00:30:11,851 --> 00:30:14,228
SHATNER:
As for the dark car?
604
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:17,857
There are many who are convinced
that the answer is simple.
605
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,903
It was the funeral hearse
that conveyed John Barker's body
606
00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:24,822
to its final resting place.
607
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:28,701
It raises the question,
was Barker's own death
608
00:30:28,784 --> 00:30:30,453
just a coincidence?
609
00:30:30,578 --> 00:30:32,538
Was it selfâfulfilling prophecy,
610
00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,041
or like the rest
of the bureau's predictions,
611
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:39,170
was fate simply too powerful
to be stopped?
612
00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:44,091
Was the leader of
the British Premonitions Bureau
613
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:48,512
literally scared to death
by other people's visions?
614
00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:50,932
Perhaps. But does the ability
615
00:30:51,057 --> 00:30:53,309
to see the future mean
our lives are preordained?
616
00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:56,854
Or is it possible
that by knowing the future,
617
00:30:56,938 --> 00:31:00,399
we can change
and even improve... our destiny?
618
00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:03,486
Maybe we'll find out the answer
by investigating
619
00:31:03,569 --> 00:31:06,989
yet another form
of prognostication...
620
00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,075
dreams.
621
00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:22,338
SHATNER:
Cognitive neuroscientist
Julia Mossbridge settles
622
00:31:22,421 --> 00:31:24,799
into bed after a long day.
623
00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:28,552
It's a night's sleep
that begins like any other...
624
00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:32,682
until she experiences a strange
625
00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:34,684
and disturbing dream.
626
00:31:34,767 --> 00:31:37,728
MOSSBRIDGE:
This dream was horrible.
627
00:31:37,853 --> 00:31:40,064
I was taken
628
00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:42,733
to someplace in the Middle East.
I didn't know where.
629
00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:47,029
I met this man.
630
00:31:47,113 --> 00:31:49,240
He shows up sometimes
in my dreams.
631
00:31:49,323 --> 00:31:51,075
He's like a guide.
632
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,536
There was this outdoor building.
633
00:31:53,619 --> 00:31:55,538
It was mosqueâlike
634
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:56,914
in that it was
built out of stone
635
00:31:56,998 --> 00:31:59,834
and there were breezeways.
636
00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:03,045
It was the middle of the day.
People are praying.
637
00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:05,006
SHATNER:
In the confusing fog
of her dream,
638
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:08,384
Julia pieces together
an unsettling picture.
639
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:12,346
It seems that her guide
is desperately trying
640
00:32:12,471 --> 00:32:14,348
to warn her of something
that is going to happen.
641
00:32:14,473 --> 00:32:15,725
Something dire.
642
00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:18,978
MOSSBRIDGE:
And he's showing me this event.
643
00:32:20,896 --> 00:32:24,066
There was rubble
because there was
644
00:32:24,191 --> 00:32:26,527
a terrorist explosion
when people were praying.
645
00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:29,488
And he showed me this writing.
646
00:32:29,572 --> 00:32:31,866
It was Arabic.
647
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:34,994
There was the letters
for "I" and "S,"
648
00:32:35,077 --> 00:32:38,873
and I knew that stood
for Islamic State.
649
00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:41,083
SHATNER:
But before she can
awaken herself
650
00:32:41,208 --> 00:32:43,669
from her nightmare, she realizes
651
00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:47,923
he still has one more message
to deliver.
652
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:52,345
MOSSBRIDGE:
He called the place
we were in Kyuck Kyuck.
653
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:54,180
He kept saying "Kyuck Kyuck."
654
00:32:54,263 --> 00:32:56,015
And I didn't know
what that meant.
655
00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:57,767
Since I was a kid,
656
00:32:57,892 --> 00:33:00,561
I have had precognitive dreams.
657
00:33:02,229 --> 00:33:04,023
Usually they're describing
an event that happens
658
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:06,859
the next day,
the next week, the next month.
659
00:33:06,942 --> 00:33:09,695
So, when I woke up,
I wrote it in my dream journal
660
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:11,155
because that's my habit.
I never had
661
00:33:11,238 --> 00:33:13,032
a precognitive dream
of something horrible
662
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,368
like that on a,
on a major world scale.
663
00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:16,494
It shook me.
664
00:33:18,245 --> 00:33:21,207
During the day,
I got the news report
665
00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:24,335
of a bombing
in Kuwait City, Kuwait.
666
00:33:24,418 --> 00:33:26,879
I figured,
"Oh, that was the Kyuck Kyuck."
667
00:33:27,004 --> 00:33:30,174
I had it almost right
but not quite.
668
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,260
This happened
during noontime prayers.
669
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:37,223
Responsibility was claimed
by ISIS, Islamic State.
670
00:33:40,851 --> 00:33:44,980
I felt heartbroken
because I saw it happen.
671
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,067
SHATNER:
Dreams have long been known
672
00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,945
to reflect
the dreamer's subconscious mind.
673
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:53,114
Desires, anxieties,
674
00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:57,701
longâforgotten memories
all bubbling to the surface.
675
00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:00,579
But precognitive dreams?
676
00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:02,873
Is it really possible
that dreams,
677
00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,543
like the ones
we have every night,
678
00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:08,003
can actually predict the future?
679
00:34:08,087 --> 00:34:10,714
KAKU:
When we take a person
who's dreaming
680
00:34:10,798 --> 00:34:13,008
and put him
in a brain scan machine,
681
00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:15,886
we begin to realize
something very interesting.
682
00:34:16,011 --> 00:34:17,721
Blood flow to the front
of the brain
683
00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:19,223
is turned off for the most part.
684
00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:22,893
Second, blood flow goes to
the emotional part of the brain,
685
00:34:22,977 --> 00:34:24,854
and you start
to have nightmares.
686
00:34:24,979 --> 00:34:26,355
You start to have fears.
687
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,109
You imagine the future
or have a premonition.
688
00:34:30,192 --> 00:34:32,194
Dreams are important
because it allows us
689
00:34:32,319 --> 00:34:34,363
to articulate the fears
and premonitions
690
00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:37,741
that we have
in the unconscious mind,
691
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,494
and then we're able
to evaluate it
692
00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:42,121
with the conscious mind.
693
00:34:42,246 --> 00:34:45,499
SHATNER:
As unbelievable
as it may have seemed
694
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:47,418
to her scientific mind,
695
00:34:47,543 --> 00:34:50,588
Julia firmly believed
she had seen the future
696
00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:52,423
before it happened.
697
00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:54,341
Having been
in this position before
698
00:34:54,383 --> 00:34:56,218
and regretting
not doing anything about it,
699
00:34:56,302 --> 00:34:59,972
Julia wasn't going to let
the same thing happen again.
700
00:35:00,055 --> 00:35:02,349
In fall of 2017,
701
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:05,603
I had another one
of these world stageâtype dreams
702
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,021
that felt precognitive
703
00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:08,898
and that did not feel good.
704
00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,192
There was a cruise ship.
705
00:35:12,818 --> 00:35:14,778
And there were these cartoon
706
00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,739
sort of creatures
on the cruise ship.
707
00:35:16,822 --> 00:35:18,949
I thought, "Oh, no. Disney."
708
00:35:19,074 --> 00:35:20,910
And then, after that,
709
00:35:21,035 --> 00:35:22,077
there was a bridge structure.
710
00:35:22,203 --> 00:35:23,287
There was this archingââ
711
00:35:23,412 --> 00:35:25,080
it was actually
quite beautifulââ
712
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,541
this arching bridge structure.
713
00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:29,001
And the concern in the dream
714
00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,545
was, that's where
the explosion would happen.
715
00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:35,466
And that scared me.
716
00:35:35,549 --> 00:35:36,967
I'd never seen a bridge
like that.
717
00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:38,677
So I googled
718
00:35:38,802 --> 00:35:40,054
the shape of the bridge,
719
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:42,181
and the first thing
that shows up
720
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:44,892
is the Coronado Bridge
in San Diego.
721
00:35:45,017 --> 00:35:46,227
I remembered
that I'd promised myself
722
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:48,062
that I was gonna go
to authorities
723
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,355
even if I felt stupid.
724
00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,357
MULLEN:
I was detailed
725
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,734
to the FBI's
Joint Terrorism Task Force
726
00:35:53,859 --> 00:35:55,528
in San Diego, California.
727
00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:58,447
Julia contacted
728
00:35:58,572 --> 00:35:59,865
somebody within NCIS,
729
00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:01,867
and my boss got word of it
730
00:36:01,992 --> 00:36:03,536
and said,
"Hey, just look into this."
731
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:06,997
I knew very little,
if anything, about precog.
732
00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:08,666
I was curious.
733
00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:11,710
I knew from the very second
that I started talking to her
734
00:36:11,835 --> 00:36:13,254
that there was no
ulterior motive.
735
00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:16,215
When she gave me the
information, she was
736
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:19,468
very specific on the location
and the time.
737
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:23,847
She had actual information and
wanted somebody to run with this
738
00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,267
to prevent something
that she saw in a dream.
739
00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:29,436
Most cops don't like
using information
740
00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:31,397
that they can't explain.
741
00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:35,609
And precog is something
that is unexplainable.
742
00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,737
But if this is something
that would actually work,
743
00:36:38,862 --> 00:36:40,698
why not give it a try?
744
00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:45,536
The Coronado Bay Bridge in San
Diego is one of the big things
745
00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:50,207
that we try to protect, along
with all of the Navy assets.
746
00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:52,251
There are always threats.
747
00:36:53,252 --> 00:36:56,130
We were able to move
patrol boats
748
00:36:56,213 --> 00:36:59,133
âto provide coverage
around the bridge...
â(siren wailing)
749
00:37:03,846 --> 00:37:06,098
...and nothing happened.
750
00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:11,645
Did nothing happen because
there were patrol boats,
751
00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:15,316
and somebody who was looking
to do something nefarious
752
00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:17,318
against the bridge
basically said,
753
00:37:17,401 --> 00:37:18,986
"I don't want to be caught"?
754
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:22,531
Or was the attack not even
going to happen?
755
00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:27,161
The simple fact
that nothing happened was,
756
00:37:27,244 --> 00:37:28,829
in my mind, a win.
757
00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:34,793
MOSSBRIDGE:
If you're going to go into this
world and use this talent
758
00:37:34,877 --> 00:37:38,922
to create data that can be used
to prevent something,
759
00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:40,507
sometimes it works
and sometimes it doesn't.
760
00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:44,178
But as long as the bad thing
doesn't happen, good.
761
00:37:45,512 --> 00:37:48,182
SHATNER:
There are those who believe
Julia Mossbridge prevented
762
00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:50,976
a dangerous attack
by seeing the future
763
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:52,645
and acting on her vision.
764
00:37:52,728 --> 00:37:56,523
And there are skeptics
who question whether
765
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,609
there was any danger
in the first place.
766
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,531
But perhaps both sides
are missing the target.
767
00:38:04,615 --> 00:38:08,702
Because, according to one
incredible theory,
768
00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:11,747
the past, present and future
769
00:38:11,872 --> 00:38:14,500
may actually be the same thing.
770
00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:25,302
SHATNER: The International Data
Corporation publishes a report
771
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:29,056
which estimates that,
by the year 2022,
772
00:38:29,139 --> 00:38:33,310
over $270 billion
will be spent annually
773
00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:35,020
on a new form of prophecy.
774
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:38,649
It's called
predictive analytics.
775
00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:43,070
Only this time, the prophets
will be made of ones and zeros
776
00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:46,865
instead of flesh and blood.
777
00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:51,412
Predictive analytics is
a fancy way of saying
778
00:38:51,537 --> 00:38:55,207
"Look at the data and figure out
why things happen."
779
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:57,334
Very important.
780
00:38:57,376 --> 00:38:59,169
Banks, corporations,
computer companies
781
00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:02,423
spend hundreds of millions
of dollars
782
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:05,175
sifting through tons of data,
783
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:09,179
trying to find instances
of causality.
784
00:39:09,263 --> 00:39:11,056
If I raise the price
of a product,
785
00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,350
does my profit margin go down?
786
00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,061
Will I go bankrupt?
787
00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,772
In other words,
corporations constantly try
788
00:39:18,897 --> 00:39:20,190
to predict the future.
789
00:39:20,315 --> 00:39:21,692
That's the name of the game.
790
00:39:21,775 --> 00:39:25,529
You predict it wrong,
you zag when you should zig,
791
00:39:25,612 --> 00:39:28,240
you go bankrupt.
792
00:39:28,365 --> 00:39:31,702
I think predictive analytics
operate very similarly
793
00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:33,120
to how our brains work.
794
00:39:33,245 --> 00:39:37,374
Our minds come equipped to make
predictions about the future
795
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:40,210
based on our past experiences,
796
00:39:40,335 --> 00:39:42,045
and they operate very similarly.
797
00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:44,757
In fact, machineâlearning
algorithms,
798
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,634
the type that carry out
predictive analytics,
799
00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:51,263
are often called
neural network models
800
00:39:51,346 --> 00:39:53,223
because they're designed
to mimic
801
00:39:53,348 --> 00:39:55,684
how neurons work in our brains.
802
00:39:57,394 --> 00:40:00,689
SHATNER:
The idea of advanced computers
pulling information
803
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:02,858
from the cloud in order
to predict the future
804
00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:05,569
may sound like science fiction.
805
00:40:06,653 --> 00:40:09,865
But in truth
this idea has been around
806
00:40:09,948 --> 00:40:12,701
for thousands of years.
807
00:40:12,785 --> 00:40:15,454
Every culture in history
has had some concept
808
00:40:15,537 --> 00:40:17,039
of a universal mind.
809
00:40:17,122 --> 00:40:19,917
The Greeks used to call it nous,
or a great overmind.
810
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:23,378
In Vedic tradition,
it's sometimes called Akasha,
811
00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,381
or a kind of universal ether.
812
00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:29,301
People like Nostradamus
and any seer
813
00:40:29,384 --> 00:40:32,763
will tune into what we call
the Akashic record.
814
00:40:34,264 --> 00:40:36,683
This is like the memory
of all things.
815
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,560
It's the universal mind.
816
00:40:38,644 --> 00:40:41,814
We enter it by going
into a state of meditation
817
00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:46,735
and connecting with the past,
the present and the future.
818
00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:51,323
One of the great secrets of
the mystical tradition is that
819
00:40:51,406 --> 00:40:54,284
all human souls are one.
820
00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:57,704
So we are part
of a collective whole.
821
00:40:57,788 --> 00:41:01,166
In later psychology,
it has been understood
822
00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:05,045
to be called
a collective unconscious.
823
00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:06,380
In ancient times
824
00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,925
it was referred to
as a collective soul,
825
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,886
which is the collective mind
of all humanity,
826
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,973
past, present, future.
827
00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:17,766
MOSSBRIDGE: I think the people
who work in this way,
828
00:41:17,891 --> 00:41:20,185
what they're doing is
they're tapping into
829
00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,229
some source of information.
830
00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:24,606
I don't think the question is
831
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,358
"Why are we able to get
information about the future?"
832
00:41:26,483 --> 00:41:27,943
I think the question is
more like,
833
00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:30,696
"Why don't we get more
information about the future?"
834
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,367
A universal mind,
835
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,828
allâknowing
and allâencompassing.
836
00:41:37,911 --> 00:41:41,540
But do we really want
to know everything
837
00:41:41,582 --> 00:41:42,624
before it happens?
838
00:41:42,749 --> 00:41:45,168
Time of our own death, perhaps?
839
00:41:45,252 --> 00:41:46,628
Or the fate of our loved ones?
840
00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:51,550
Or... how about
the end of the world?
841
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:55,012
Perhaps we're better off
not knowing.
842
00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:58,724
Letting those things remain...
843
00:41:58,849 --> 00:42:00,475
the unexplained.
66042