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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,667 --> 00:00:03,252 WILLIAM SHATNER: Powerful prophets 2 00:00:03,336 --> 00:00:05,004 that can predict the fall of empires. 3 00:00:05,088 --> 00:00:07,298 (bomb whistling, explosion) 4 00:00:07,382 --> 00:00:11,969 Disturbing dreams... that envision deadly crimes. 5 00:00:12,053 --> 00:00:14,806 And nightmare visions from which victims... 6 00:00:14,889 --> 00:00:18,059 never wake up. 7 00:00:19,894 --> 00:00:22,855 Can people really see the future? 8 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:26,359 Receive messages from across time and space? 9 00:00:26,442 --> 00:00:30,905 For centuries, seers and prophets have come forward 10 00:00:31,030 --> 00:00:34,784 offering dramatic visions of mankind's destiny. 11 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:36,744 But what happens 12 00:00:36,869 --> 00:00:40,331 when the predictions turn... deadly? 13 00:00:40,415 --> 00:00:44,460 Well, that is what we'll try and find out. 14 00:00:44,544 --> 00:00:46,504 â™Ș â™Ș 15 00:01:02,687 --> 00:01:06,441 Craig Hamilton‐Parker, an English psychicnd medium, 16 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,026 posts a series of prophecies on his website‐‐ 17 00:01:09,152 --> 00:01:13,948 some of them quite ominous and even oddly disturbing. 18 00:01:14,031 --> 00:01:16,159 I've been a psychic medium all my life, 19 00:01:16,242 --> 00:01:18,828 in touch with the spirit world, and sometimes make predictions. 20 00:01:18,911 --> 00:01:24,917 And in 2015, I decided to put some predictions on my website. 21 00:01:25,042 --> 00:01:26,919 I said that there'd be a massive earthquake in Japan. 22 00:01:27,044 --> 00:01:31,174 I wrote that Brexit would happen, and at the time, 23 00:01:31,299 --> 00:01:33,342 everybody was saying, "It's never gonna happen. 24 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:35,344 Everybody's gonna vote to remain. There's no chance." 25 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:38,931 I saw terrorist attacks in Nice in my vision, 26 00:01:39,015 --> 00:01:41,434 and I put those in my predictions. 27 00:01:41,559 --> 00:01:43,895 Sometimes I don't like telling the future. 28 00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:45,646 SHATNER: Within a year, 29 00:01:45,730 --> 00:01:49,192 the predictions Craig made came surprisingly, 30 00:01:49,317 --> 00:01:53,362 and in some cases frighteningly, true. 31 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:56,407 On April 16, 2016, 32 00:01:56,532 --> 00:02:00,495 Kumamoto, Japan was shaken by a 7.0 magnitude earthquake. 33 00:02:00,578 --> 00:02:05,500 50 people were killed, and more than 3,000 people injured. 34 00:02:05,583 --> 00:02:07,502 And then, on June 23, 35 00:02:07,585 --> 00:02:09,962 over half of Great Britain voted to approve Brexit 36 00:02:10,046 --> 00:02:12,507 and leave the European Union. 37 00:02:12,590 --> 00:02:14,800 Finally, on July 14, 38 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:17,678 a 19‐ton truck driven by a terrorist plowed 39 00:02:17,803 --> 00:02:20,014 through a crowded market in Nice, France, 40 00:02:20,056 --> 00:02:23,601 killing 86 people and injuring over 400. 41 00:02:23,726 --> 00:02:27,188 Of course, not all of Craig's prophecies ended up happening. 42 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:28,689 For instance, he'd predicted 43 00:02:28,814 --> 00:02:31,692 that a gas attack would take place in a European city, 44 00:02:31,817 --> 00:02:34,779 but there was no such attack in Europe that year. 45 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:38,199 But the fact that he got three out of four predictions right 46 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:41,160 led many to believe that his uncanny ability 47 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:45,957 to see the future couldn't have been a mere fluke. 48 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:48,918 The natural question that people have is, 49 00:02:49,043 --> 00:02:50,670 "Where does a prediction come from? 50 00:02:50,795 --> 00:02:54,173 Where is the so‐called psychic getting this information from?" 51 00:02:54,215 --> 00:02:56,842 The first explanation we go to is 52 00:02:56,926 --> 00:02:58,135 that it's some sort of psychosis, 53 00:02:58,219 --> 00:02:59,428 but that doesn't really hold up 54 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:01,430 because you can't turn crazy on and off. 55 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:04,183 And the fact is, if you meet most of these folk, 56 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:05,726 and I've met plenty of them, 57 00:03:05,851 --> 00:03:08,938 they're perfectly ordinary, everyday functioning people. 58 00:03:09,063 --> 00:03:10,856 SHATNER: According to Craig, 59 00:03:10,982 --> 00:03:13,067 his ability to see events before they happen 60 00:03:13,192 --> 00:03:15,570 is one he was born with. 61 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:18,281 Since childhood, he surprised his family 62 00:03:18,406 --> 00:03:21,367 with what he called "flashes of the future," 63 00:03:21,409 --> 00:03:27,373 glimpses of things that hadn't yet come to pass, but often did. 64 00:03:27,456 --> 00:03:29,250 And in his early twenties, he decided 65 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,169 to make a journey to India, where he studied the writings 66 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:36,340 of ancient oracles, and honed his raw talent. 67 00:03:36,424 --> 00:03:38,467 HAMILTON‐PARKER: So I became very interested 68 00:03:38,551 --> 00:03:41,178 in this idea that there's an ancient tradition 69 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:43,431 that goes back right through time 70 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:47,351 over many, many centuries, maybe back tens of thousands of years. 71 00:03:47,476 --> 00:03:50,479 For me, seeing the future is a bit like 72 00:03:50,563 --> 00:03:52,815 a dream experience in many respects. 73 00:03:52,898 --> 00:03:57,653 I use an old technique from India called "Trataka," 74 00:03:57,737 --> 00:04:01,032 which, I look into a candle, basically. 75 00:04:01,115 --> 00:04:03,409 You go into a sort of a state of gazing, 76 00:04:03,534 --> 00:04:05,411 and then move the image of that candle 77 00:04:05,494 --> 00:04:07,288 into the middle of what we call "the third eye." 78 00:04:07,413 --> 00:04:09,248 And you'll see it as an afterimage 79 00:04:09,373 --> 00:04:11,042 on the back of the eye, 80 00:04:11,167 --> 00:04:13,127 where all these visions will appear. 81 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:17,506 I see things‐‐ things I know, things I don't know. 82 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:20,843 It's like the universe knows better than I do. 83 00:04:20,926 --> 00:04:22,470 It gave me this information, 84 00:04:22,553 --> 00:04:24,972 and it's kind of my duty to put it out there. 85 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:26,974 SHATNER: In the fall of 2016, 86 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:28,768 another of Craig's prophecies‐‐ 87 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:31,937 this time about the U. S. presidential election‐‐ 88 00:04:32,063 --> 00:04:33,606 came to pass. 89 00:04:33,731 --> 00:04:35,274 HAMILTON‐PARKER: I kept getting glimpses of 90 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:37,151 this strange character, you know. 91 00:04:37,234 --> 00:04:39,570 And I thought, "Who on Earth is this?" 92 00:04:39,695 --> 00:04:41,572 And then suddenly, 93 00:04:41,697 --> 00:04:44,200 Trump announces himself in the primaries, 94 00:04:44,241 --> 00:04:46,410 and then I knew that's what I'd been seeing. 95 00:04:46,494 --> 00:04:48,120 That was this strange figure 96 00:04:48,204 --> 00:04:50,873 that kept coming into my meditations 97 00:04:50,956 --> 00:04:53,459 and interrupting, uh, my thoughts. 98 00:04:53,542 --> 00:04:57,046 Clearly, for me, Trump was gonna be president, 99 00:04:57,171 --> 00:04:59,256 even though everybody at this time was saying, 100 00:04:59,382 --> 00:05:01,592 "He don't stand a chance of ever being president." 101 00:05:01,717 --> 00:05:04,845 But the unconscious seemed to know better. 102 00:05:06,514 --> 00:05:08,849 SHATNER: But how is Craig actually getting these messages 103 00:05:08,974 --> 00:05:10,309 about the future? 104 00:05:10,393 --> 00:05:14,230 Are they really coming from his unconscious mind? 105 00:05:14,355 --> 00:05:17,108 Precognition is, um, the scientific term 106 00:05:17,233 --> 00:05:19,026 for things like premonitions. 107 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:21,195 And it's getting accurate information 108 00:05:21,278 --> 00:05:24,365 about a future event that you didn't cause. 109 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:26,742 MICHIO KAKU: We think that the brain, 110 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:29,704 no matter how complicated and non‐linear it is, 111 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,206 is still something that could be reduced down 112 00:05:32,289 --> 00:05:34,667 to the laws of physics. 113 00:05:34,750 --> 00:05:38,129 Now that doesn't mean that the brain can't imagine the future. 114 00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:43,676 We are genetically hardwired to have premonitions. 115 00:05:43,801 --> 00:05:45,136 We can't stop it. 116 00:05:45,219 --> 00:05:47,096 It's part of our makeup. 117 00:05:47,179 --> 00:05:49,765 ANNE CLEARY: The feeling of premonition 118 00:05:49,890 --> 00:05:51,475 might be an example 119 00:05:51,559 --> 00:05:54,854 of how our memories orient us toward the future. 120 00:05:54,895 --> 00:05:56,313 (tires squealing, thud) 121 00:05:56,397 --> 00:05:59,734 So, current thinking among memory researchers is 122 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:02,695 that our memories are not useful to us so much 123 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:06,657 for their ability to enable us to recollect the past 124 00:06:06,741 --> 00:06:09,535 as they are useful to us for enabling us 125 00:06:09,618 --> 00:06:11,871 to navigate and predict the future. 126 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:15,708 And from that perspective, the idea that dĂ©jĂ  vu, 127 00:06:15,791 --> 00:06:18,043 which might result from a memory process, 128 00:06:18,127 --> 00:06:22,465 might be accompanied by feelings of premonition, fits that. 129 00:06:24,216 --> 00:06:26,010 HOROWITZ: If somebody has 130 00:06:26,135 --> 00:06:29,221 an authentic intuitive or insightful gift‐‐ 131 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:32,516 and I do think such things exist‐‐ 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,810 I think it's a kind of ESP 133 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:39,231 in which certain individuals are able to glean information 134 00:06:39,356 --> 00:06:40,775 in anomalous ways, 135 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,028 in ways that go beyond our ordinary five senses. 136 00:06:44,153 --> 00:06:47,740 NICK POPE: The Internet, TV talk shows, 137 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:49,533 and the best‐seller lists 138 00:06:49,617 --> 00:06:52,119 are full of prophets and prognosticators 139 00:06:52,244 --> 00:06:55,539 claiming to be able to divine the future. 140 00:06:55,664 --> 00:06:57,708 And in a number of these cases, 141 00:06:57,833 --> 00:07:00,127 they really seem to be able to do it. 142 00:07:00,211 --> 00:07:02,588 SHATNER: If it's true 143 00:07:02,713 --> 00:07:05,674 that there are such things as real psychics, 144 00:07:05,758 --> 00:07:09,678 then where exactly does their incredible gift come from, 145 00:07:09,762 --> 00:07:12,515 and how can we better understand it? 146 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:14,767 According to some researchers, 147 00:07:14,892 --> 00:07:18,145 the explanation doesn't lie in the distant future, 148 00:07:18,229 --> 00:07:21,857 but rather, the ancient past. 149 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:25,027 RABBI ARIEL BAR TZADOK: The Bible makes it very clear 150 00:07:25,069 --> 00:07:26,862 that biblical prophets 151 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:30,324 were not arbitrary individuals, men or women, 152 00:07:30,407 --> 00:07:33,786 who were just as if minding their own business, 153 00:07:33,869 --> 00:07:35,579 and then God chose them. 154 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:37,414 It wasn't like that at all. 155 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:40,209 It was an internal experience 156 00:07:40,334 --> 00:07:43,295 that the Bible calls a dream or a vision. 157 00:07:43,379 --> 00:07:48,843 If you do not learn how to understand dreams, 158 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:51,595 you will never understand their message. 159 00:07:51,679 --> 00:07:55,641 It is very clearly said in the Bible 160 00:07:55,724 --> 00:07:59,186 that prophets had to go to school 161 00:07:59,270 --> 00:08:02,940 to learn how to experience 162 00:08:03,065 --> 00:08:08,863 and interpret the spiritual message which we call prophecy. 163 00:08:08,988 --> 00:08:14,326 And the biblical teachings of prophecy were not limited 164 00:08:14,410 --> 00:08:18,414 to those of the religious world. 165 00:08:18,539 --> 00:08:22,001 Many people have been trained in these techniques, 166 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:23,919 and we don't even realize it. 167 00:08:25,421 --> 00:08:28,674 SHATNER: Trained to see the future? 168 00:08:28,799 --> 00:08:32,761 Could such a farfetched but also tantalizing notion 169 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:35,514 actually be possible? 170 00:08:35,556 --> 00:08:38,976 I think our generation is on the precipice of a great question 171 00:08:39,059 --> 00:08:42,062 about the extra‐physical abilities of the mind. 172 00:08:42,187 --> 00:08:43,814 I don't know that we'll answer it, 173 00:08:43,898 --> 00:08:45,274 but I think it is coming 174 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:47,318 more and more into focus 175 00:08:47,401 --> 00:08:49,361 that materialism just doesn't cover 176 00:08:49,445 --> 00:08:51,614 all the bases of life anymore, 177 00:08:51,739 --> 00:08:54,074 and that the mind has capacities, 178 00:08:54,199 --> 00:08:56,535 including extra‐physical capacities, 179 00:08:56,619 --> 00:08:58,537 that are measurable, that are present, 180 00:08:58,621 --> 00:09:01,373 and that we're only beginning to understand. 181 00:09:01,457 --> 00:09:03,334 HAMILTON‐PARKER: It's a natural part 182 00:09:03,417 --> 00:09:06,670 of the human condition to make predictions. 183 00:09:06,795 --> 00:09:09,924 And couldn't it be that maybe our predictive ability 184 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:11,842 is far greater than we've ever imagined? 185 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:15,137 That maybe every one of us somehow has a way 186 00:09:15,220 --> 00:09:17,056 of seeing into the fabric of time? 187 00:09:17,181 --> 00:09:21,101 We just have to trust that ability. 188 00:09:21,226 --> 00:09:22,895 SHATNER: If each of us could learn 189 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:25,898 how to predict the future, would we accept our fate, 190 00:09:26,023 --> 00:09:27,566 or fight to change it? 191 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:29,693 Perhaps the answer can be found 192 00:09:29,777 --> 00:09:31,862 by studying the prophecies of the man who is considered 193 00:09:31,987 --> 00:09:34,782 one of the greatest prophets of all time‐‐ 194 00:09:34,907 --> 00:09:38,035 Nostradamus. 195 00:09:45,334 --> 00:09:46,752 SHATNER: Astrologer and physician 196 00:09:46,877 --> 00:09:49,880 Michel de Nostradamus publishes a volume 197 00:09:50,005 --> 00:09:52,591 of four‐line poems, called "quatrains." 198 00:09:52,716 --> 00:09:54,510 Readers at the time are confused 199 00:09:54,593 --> 00:09:56,762 by the author's use of multiple languages, 200 00:09:56,887 --> 00:09:59,306 word puzzles, and what was even then 201 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:02,101 considered antiquated syntax. 202 00:10:02,226 --> 00:10:05,854 But perhaps even more baffling is the volume's title, 203 00:10:05,938 --> 00:10:09,400 Les Propheties‐‐ The Prophecies. 204 00:10:09,525 --> 00:10:14,530 HOGUE: Nostradamus had become 205 00:10:14,655 --> 00:10:17,866 initially famous as an almanac writer. 206 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:19,910 You've got to understand that this is 207 00:10:19,994 --> 00:10:21,787 during the time of the printing revolution, 208 00:10:21,912 --> 00:10:24,415 and he was one of its first best‐selling authors. 209 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:28,335 And then he embarked on a history of the future, 210 00:10:28,460 --> 00:10:31,547 which would look at everything 211 00:10:31,672 --> 00:10:34,758 up to the year 3797 AD, 212 00:10:34,883 --> 00:10:37,970 nearly 1,800 years from now, and beyond. 213 00:10:38,053 --> 00:10:39,513 SHATNER: The Prophecies was initially met 214 00:10:39,596 --> 00:10:42,349 with outright skepticism and derision. 215 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:46,311 Many believed Nostradamus to be either a fraud 216 00:10:46,395 --> 00:10:47,938 or mentally ill, 217 00:10:48,063 --> 00:10:49,481 possibly both, 218 00:10:49,565 --> 00:10:51,984 likely due to the fact that one of his verses 219 00:10:52,067 --> 00:10:56,530 scandalously foretold of a particularly gory death 220 00:10:56,572 --> 00:10:58,407 for Henry II, the king of France. 221 00:10:58,490 --> 00:11:00,075 HOGUE: Nostradamus made a prediction 222 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:04,496 about Henry II dying in a jousting accident. 223 00:11:04,580 --> 00:11:07,791 ‐(neighing) ‐Quatrain 35 224 00:11:07,875 --> 00:11:10,627 read that a young lion would face the old 225 00:11:10,711 --> 00:11:12,671 in traditional combat. 226 00:11:12,755 --> 00:11:14,673 He shall be pierced 227 00:11:14,798 --> 00:11:16,508 through a gilded cage. 228 00:11:16,633 --> 00:11:18,677 Two wounds made one. 229 00:11:18,761 --> 00:11:23,766 The joust happened exactly as he foretold it. 230 00:11:24,892 --> 00:11:28,062 Both men had lions on their shields. 231 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:32,399 Large shards went through the gilded visor of the king. 232 00:11:32,524 --> 00:11:35,486 One penetrated his forehead into his brain, 233 00:11:35,569 --> 00:11:38,447 the other in between his eye and socket, 234 00:11:38,530 --> 00:11:40,074 destroying his eye. 235 00:11:40,199 --> 00:11:44,578 And he died of infection of the brain ten days later, 236 00:11:44,703 --> 00:11:47,289 an agonizing death. 237 00:11:47,414 --> 00:11:49,416 SHATNER: After the king's death, 238 00:11:49,541 --> 00:11:54,338 Nostradamus' reputation as a seer of the future grew rapidly, 239 00:11:54,421 --> 00:11:56,340 which was, at the time, 240 00:11:56,423 --> 00:11:59,760 not necessarily a good thing. 241 00:11:59,885 --> 00:12:03,430 It is well‐known that Nostradamus concealed 242 00:12:03,555 --> 00:12:05,599 the nature of his prophecies, 243 00:12:05,724 --> 00:12:08,602 which, at that time, was very politically incorrect 244 00:12:08,685 --> 00:12:12,189 and could have gotten him in a lot of trouble. 245 00:12:12,314 --> 00:12:14,149 He would come into great conflict with the church 246 00:12:14,233 --> 00:12:17,027 if he p‐put himself on a pedestal and be like 247 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:20,906 Noah or Moses or people like this. 248 00:12:21,031 --> 00:12:23,367 SHATNER: Despite the controversy, 249 00:12:23,492 --> 00:12:25,035 The Prophecies eventually became 250 00:12:25,077 --> 00:12:27,746 one of the most widely read books in the world. 251 00:12:27,871 --> 00:12:31,208 It both astounded and terrified readers with its predictions 252 00:12:31,333 --> 00:12:34,461 about dreadful events to come. 253 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:36,130 ‐(whispering) ‐Is it possible 254 00:12:36,213 --> 00:12:38,882 Nostradamus received his prophetic visions 255 00:12:38,966 --> 00:12:42,344 because he was in touch with a higher power? 256 00:12:42,427 --> 00:12:45,889 It's an interesting theory 257 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:48,183 and could help explain how Nostradamus was able to see 258 00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:51,353 and know things that would not happen for centuries, 259 00:12:51,436 --> 00:12:55,190 things he was trying to warn us about. 260 00:12:55,274 --> 00:12:57,317 ‐(whistling) ‐(explosion) 261 00:12:57,401 --> 00:12:58,485 1942. 262 00:12:58,569 --> 00:13:00,571 With World War II 263 00:13:00,696 --> 00:13:02,865 wreaking havoc throughout Europe and the Pacific, 264 00:13:02,948 --> 00:13:05,033 it wasn't only the latest news 265 00:13:05,117 --> 00:13:07,411 from the front lines making headlines 266 00:13:07,536 --> 00:13:09,621 but also Nostradamus 267 00:13:09,746 --> 00:13:12,749 and his prophecy centering 268 00:13:12,833 --> 00:13:16,712 on the rise of a man named Hister. 269 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,133 HOGUE: What triggered his international fame 270 00:13:21,216 --> 00:13:25,304 was a reference five times in his prophecies 271 00:13:25,387 --> 00:13:28,265 about a man named Hister 272 00:13:28,348 --> 00:13:30,267 with a Gothic "S," 273 00:13:30,392 --> 00:13:32,144 which has a "T" crossed. 274 00:13:32,227 --> 00:13:35,439 Another push, push, nudge, nudge, perhaps, 275 00:13:35,522 --> 00:13:36,857 in his work. 276 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:40,861 Hister is the ancient name of the river Danube. 277 00:13:40,944 --> 00:13:44,114 Adolf Hitler grew up on the river Danube. 278 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:48,452 Nostradamus had a pattern of using a place as a person. 279 00:13:48,577 --> 00:13:50,204 The river is a code, 280 00:13:50,287 --> 00:13:52,706 and the things that are said in the other parts 281 00:13:52,789 --> 00:13:56,168 of the prophecies indicate that it's a man. 282 00:13:56,293 --> 00:14:01,632 The man who's called the captain of greater Germany. 283 00:14:03,717 --> 00:14:06,011 SHATNER: Is it possible 284 00:14:06,094 --> 00:14:08,013 Nostradamus predicted the rise 285 00:14:08,096 --> 00:14:10,849 of one of the most evil men in history? 286 00:14:10,974 --> 00:14:13,352 According to many who have studied these quatrains, 287 00:14:13,435 --> 00:14:14,394 the answer is yes. 288 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:15,729 And as evidence, 289 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:17,898 they point to other things he foresaw, 290 00:14:18,023 --> 00:14:21,568 things that a person who lived and died in the 16th century 291 00:14:21,652 --> 00:14:25,530 could never know would one day exist. 292 00:14:25,614 --> 00:14:27,032 This happened many times for me, 293 00:14:27,115 --> 00:14:28,867 when I want to just slap the book shut 294 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:30,661 and say, "Oh, come on." 295 00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:32,996 And then names suddenly come out. 296 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,168 A man named de Gaulle will lead France three times. 297 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:39,586 And it's factually true. 298 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:41,588 Charles de Gaulle led the free French, 299 00:14:41,672 --> 00:14:43,006 led the provisional government 300 00:14:43,131 --> 00:14:45,467 and then, finally, in his final years, 301 00:14:45,550 --> 00:14:47,928 was president of France‐‐ three times. 302 00:14:48,053 --> 00:14:50,764 And that's one of hundreds of things I can cite. 303 00:14:50,889 --> 00:14:53,267 How does he do this? 304 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:57,020 HOROWITZ: Nostradamus is one of the most enduring names, 305 00:14:57,062 --> 00:14:59,356 perhaps the most enduring name, 306 00:14:59,439 --> 00:15:01,358 in post‐biblical prophecy. 307 00:15:01,441 --> 00:15:05,028 His quatrains have been applied to hundreds upon hundreds 308 00:15:05,153 --> 00:15:06,822 of events throughout history, 309 00:15:06,905 --> 00:15:09,199 and people continue to feel that they can learn 310 00:15:09,324 --> 00:15:12,327 what's around the next corner by studying his quatrains. 311 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:14,371 HAMILTON‐PARKER: Nostradamus fascinates us, 312 00:15:14,454 --> 00:15:17,833 because it's perhaps part of our fear instinct, isn't it? 313 00:15:17,916 --> 00:15:20,168 When we're in difficult times, we turn to the seers, 314 00:15:20,252 --> 00:15:23,297 we turn to the prophets to try to find out can they give 315 00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:26,008 some insight into these chaotic times we live in, 316 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:27,759 particularly in today's time. 317 00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:29,928 SHATNER: If it's true 318 00:15:30,053 --> 00:15:32,514 that Nostradamus was able to predict so many things 319 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:34,683 with such incredible accuracy, 320 00:15:34,808 --> 00:15:36,685 why aren't we scouring his works 321 00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:40,147 in order to prevent the next natural catastrophe 322 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:42,149 or world war? 323 00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:43,650 Perhaps because, 324 00:15:43,734 --> 00:15:46,194 as scholars of Nostradamus have to admit, 325 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,864 of the thousands of prophecies he made 326 00:15:48,947 --> 00:15:50,365 over the course of his life, 327 00:15:50,449 --> 00:15:54,828 only a small fraction have actually come true. 328 00:15:54,911 --> 00:15:57,748 And even his seemingly accurate predictions 329 00:15:57,873 --> 00:15:59,666 have been questioned. 330 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:02,502 HAMILTON‐PARKER: We kind of have a double problem with Nostradamus in some ways, 331 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:05,172 because some of the predictions are a bit vague 332 00:16:05,255 --> 00:16:07,174 and people can project all sorts 333 00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:08,842 of things into these vague predictions 334 00:16:08,967 --> 00:16:11,720 and then relate them to something that's happening now. 335 00:16:11,845 --> 00:16:14,222 But, also, sometimes they take 336 00:16:14,306 --> 00:16:16,600 two completely unrelated sentences, 337 00:16:16,725 --> 00:16:18,852 put them together, and it seems to relate 338 00:16:18,977 --> 00:16:20,645 to something we have today. 339 00:16:20,729 --> 00:16:24,733 KAKU: The brain is a pattern‐seeking learning machine. 340 00:16:24,816 --> 00:16:27,027 It constantly sees patterns, 341 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,403 even when they're not there. 342 00:16:28,528 --> 00:16:31,031 Um, in fact, there's a name for it, apophenia. 343 00:16:31,114 --> 00:16:35,535 We can't help it, because sometimes we were right. 344 00:16:35,619 --> 00:16:37,329 Then we make leaps of logic. 345 00:16:37,412 --> 00:16:40,707 What does he mean? What did he really mean by that? 346 00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:42,542 And then we try to make sense of it, 347 00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:46,088 because that's what the brain does. 348 00:16:48,048 --> 00:16:49,674 SHATNER: Are Nostradamus' predictions 349 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,094 merely the ramblings of a madman, 350 00:16:52,177 --> 00:16:54,012 which people deliberately interpret 351 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:56,848 in order to fit history after the fact? 352 00:16:56,932 --> 00:16:58,975 As with anything, 353 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:02,437 it all depends on who you ask. 354 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:05,357 HOGUE: What makes Nostradamus so relevant today 355 00:17:05,482 --> 00:17:07,567 is that he's found a way 356 00:17:07,651 --> 00:17:11,696 through his obscurity to make everybody a sleuthsayer, 357 00:17:11,822 --> 00:17:13,782 a detective. 358 00:17:13,865 --> 00:17:16,535 He understood that it would keep him topical 359 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:18,203 for four and a half centuries. 360 00:17:18,245 --> 00:17:21,373 He even said that, "When I'm dead, 361 00:17:21,498 --> 00:17:25,585 I will be far more famous than I ever was while I'm alive." 362 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:27,003 SHATNER: For skeptics, 363 00:17:27,129 --> 00:17:29,005 the enduring mystery of Nostradamus 364 00:17:29,089 --> 00:17:30,674 is nothing more than a testament 365 00:17:30,757 --> 00:17:33,009 to the power of wishful thinking. 366 00:17:33,093 --> 00:17:35,303 ‐(sirens wailing) ‐But others insist 367 00:17:35,387 --> 00:17:38,181 that if we paid closer attention to his prophecies, 368 00:17:38,223 --> 00:17:40,517 we might have been able to prevent 369 00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:41,685 one of the greatest tragedies 370 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:44,604 of the last one hundred years, 371 00:17:44,729 --> 00:17:47,649 9/11. 372 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:01,371 (shouting) 373 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,081 MAN: Whoa, whoa! 374 00:18:03,206 --> 00:18:06,877 SHATNER: 19 terrorists overwhelm the flight crews 375 00:18:07,002 --> 00:18:09,171 of four passenger planes 376 00:18:09,296 --> 00:18:14,593 and send each of them crashing into prearranged targets. 377 00:18:14,718 --> 00:18:18,054 ‐(sirens wailing) ‐(screaming) 378 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:19,973 MAN: Get out of here! Get out! 379 00:18:20,056 --> 00:18:21,641 SHATNER: They are chosen to inflict 380 00:18:21,725 --> 00:18:25,687 massive casualties and cripple the morale of the United States. 381 00:18:25,812 --> 00:18:29,024 (screaming) 382 00:18:29,149 --> 00:18:32,068 It is a tragedy that has become a permanent part 383 00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:35,447 of our collective consciousness 384 00:18:35,572 --> 00:18:40,494 and a day that forever changed the world. 385 00:18:45,457 --> 00:18:50,587 But had the event been predicted? 386 00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:52,172 ‐(siren wailing) ‐And if so, 387 00:18:52,255 --> 00:18:55,383 could it have been prevented? 388 00:18:57,427 --> 00:18:59,429 "I'm gonna die soon, and it's gonna be a plane crash 389 00:18:59,554 --> 00:19:00,680 or a car accident." 390 00:19:00,805 --> 00:19:02,182 That's what my sister told me 391 00:19:02,265 --> 00:19:06,061 about two weeks before the planes crashed 392 00:19:06,186 --> 00:19:08,647 into the towers on 9/11. 393 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:14,152 My sister and I were super, super close. 394 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:16,071 She was eight years older than me, 395 00:19:16,196 --> 00:19:19,366 so she was like a second mom. 396 00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:22,786 My mom and my sister and I were all very close, 397 00:19:22,911 --> 00:19:24,371 like a warm family. 398 00:19:24,496 --> 00:19:27,999 Marisa had a job at Cantor Fitzgerald, 399 00:19:28,083 --> 00:19:31,836 which occupied the top floors of Tower One. 400 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,214 On the eve of September 11... 401 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:37,008 September 10 is my mom's birthday, 402 00:19:37,092 --> 00:19:40,512 and we all were invited by my sister 403 00:19:40,595 --> 00:19:42,847 to Windows on the World, the top of Tower One. 404 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:44,349 And, um, 405 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:47,519 you know, everything I talked to her about that night 406 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:50,021 was kind of like she was talking to me for the last time, 407 00:19:50,146 --> 00:19:51,606 in a weird way. 408 00:19:51,731 --> 00:19:54,192 And I thought back, you know, 409 00:19:54,317 --> 00:19:56,403 a few weeks before when she said, 410 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:58,697 "I know I'm gonna die, and it's gonna be soon." 411 00:19:58,822 --> 00:20:01,032 And, uh, she started to cry. 412 00:20:01,116 --> 00:20:03,410 And I said, "How do you know that?" 413 00:20:03,535 --> 00:20:06,413 She said, "Just trust me. I know I'm going to." 414 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,249 Never in a million years did I think 415 00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:13,295 a plane was about to smash right into where we were sitting 416 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:17,007 just about 12 hours later. 417 00:20:17,132 --> 00:20:19,384 Everyone died that was at Cantor, 418 00:20:19,509 --> 00:20:22,095 because the plane hit perfectly. 419 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:25,015 My sister was, um... 420 00:20:25,098 --> 00:20:28,852 one of those people. 421 00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:32,063 SHATNER: Since 2001, 422 00:20:32,188 --> 00:20:35,567 hundreds of accounts similar to Marisa DiNardo's 423 00:20:35,692 --> 00:20:36,735 have surfaced, 424 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,570 all of them suggesting that, 425 00:20:38,695 --> 00:20:41,656 in the days and weeks leading up to the tragic event, 426 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,825 many of the 9/11 victims 427 00:20:43,908 --> 00:20:45,952 had dreadful premonitions 428 00:20:46,077 --> 00:20:49,331 about some sort of deadly catastrophe. 429 00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:51,124 DINARDO: I remember hearing 430 00:20:51,249 --> 00:20:53,335 about a story where a man had a dream 431 00:20:53,418 --> 00:20:55,670 of a plane hitting a building 432 00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:59,090 a few days before 9/11. 433 00:20:59,215 --> 00:21:01,801 I also remember reading about a woman 434 00:21:01,885 --> 00:21:03,553 that was sitting at the PATH station 435 00:21:03,678 --> 00:21:04,679 and had this vision 436 00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:07,265 of the World Trade Center falling on her. 437 00:21:07,390 --> 00:21:10,894 It was the same week that 9/11 happened. 438 00:21:11,019 --> 00:21:13,438 There was, um, another story 439 00:21:13,563 --> 00:21:15,482 of a man that didn't want to get 440 00:21:15,565 --> 00:21:18,193 on to one of the flights because of a‐a dream 441 00:21:18,318 --> 00:21:20,528 or‐or a premonition that he had. 442 00:21:20,654 --> 00:21:23,365 SHATNER: According to some experts, 443 00:21:23,448 --> 00:21:26,034 these premonitions, unlike predictions made 444 00:21:26,076 --> 00:21:27,869 by so‐called "professional prophets," 445 00:21:27,952 --> 00:21:30,789 are a part of an innate, biological 446 00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:32,248 early‐warning system 447 00:21:32,374 --> 00:21:35,418 that all of us possess. 448 00:21:35,502 --> 00:21:38,463 Usually intuition is more of a gut feeling or a feeling 449 00:21:38,546 --> 00:21:42,550 that you just knew something, and it typically results 450 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:46,137 from pattern recognition, or our mind's ability 451 00:21:46,221 --> 00:21:50,058 to very quickly decipher patterns in the environment. 452 00:21:50,183 --> 00:21:53,228 And because we usually can't articulate the basis 453 00:21:53,353 --> 00:21:55,480 of our gut feeling or how we just knew something, 454 00:21:55,563 --> 00:22:00,276 it can often feel like ESP or a sixth sense 455 00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:04,364 or like we had a successful premonition. 456 00:22:05,448 --> 00:22:07,242 SHATNER: If humans do have 457 00:22:07,367 --> 00:22:10,537 an instinctual danger sense, designed to help us 458 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:12,706 anticipate what's around the corner, 459 00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:15,125 could that explain how so many people 460 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:18,461 seemed to know the 9/11 attacks were coming? 461 00:22:18,545 --> 00:22:21,631 There are some who believe the answer may be found by examining 462 00:22:21,715 --> 00:22:26,803 a strange occurrence that happened on that fateful day. 463 00:22:26,886 --> 00:22:30,098 HOROWITZ: There was a paranormal research lab 464 00:22:30,181 --> 00:22:31,850 at Princeton University 465 00:22:31,891 --> 00:22:34,978 that placed a number of machines around the world, 466 00:22:35,061 --> 00:22:37,564 referred to as random number generators. 467 00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:40,108 A random number generator is actually 468 00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:42,110 a machine that you use all the time. 469 00:22:42,235 --> 00:22:44,320 It spits out a random pattern of numbers. 470 00:22:44,404 --> 00:22:46,614 And it's used to create passwords for Web sites 471 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:50,368 or safes or any number of devices that need to be secure. 472 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:54,038 There are million‐to‐one odds 473 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:56,541 against any patterns showing up 474 00:22:56,624 --> 00:22:59,043 in the data that comes out of a random number generator. 475 00:22:59,127 --> 00:23:01,463 What the Princeton researchers found 476 00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:05,508 was that when the tragedy of 9/11 occurred, 477 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,386 these random number generators demonstrated 478 00:23:08,511 --> 00:23:10,930 an interruption in the random pattern. 479 00:23:11,055 --> 00:23:15,351 They demonstrated symmetry where there shouldn't be any. 480 00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:18,772 SHATNER: Patterns created by machines 481 00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,690 programmed to avoid them? 482 00:23:20,815 --> 00:23:24,527 There are many who believe that the so‐called "computer glitch" 483 00:23:24,611 --> 00:23:27,197 that occurred at the same time as the 9/11 attacks 484 00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:31,493 was no mere coincidence. 485 00:23:31,576 --> 00:23:33,995 And according to researchers familiar with 486 00:23:34,078 --> 00:23:38,541 the Princeton incident, certain events, such as catastrophes, 487 00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:43,213 actually have tangible, measurable effects 488 00:23:43,338 --> 00:23:47,675 not only on humans, but on electronic devices. 489 00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:51,304 Could it be that major events that have a huge effect 490 00:23:51,387 --> 00:23:55,058 on history maybe act like a sort of a bomb of some sort? 491 00:23:55,183 --> 00:23:57,602 That send ripples through time, 492 00:23:57,727 --> 00:23:59,771 both forward in time and backwards in time? 493 00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:04,400 And people see this, we see it like a light on the horizon. 494 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:07,362 We see parts of it, but not all of it. 495 00:24:07,445 --> 00:24:10,573 We get the energy from the future 496 00:24:10,698 --> 00:24:14,911 reaching back to us here in the past. 497 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:18,790 I believe that there is 498 00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:21,292 certainly a higher power, 499 00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:23,837 an energy or whatever you want to call it 500 00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:28,216 'cause I really do feel with every sense of my being 501 00:24:28,341 --> 00:24:31,928 that my sister knew and that she was going. 502 00:24:32,053 --> 00:24:35,765 I mean, how else can you explain the things she said 503 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:40,562 and, uh, what she knew. 504 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:44,774 Could the horrifying attacks of September the 11th 505 00:24:44,899 --> 00:24:46,025 have been prevented, 506 00:24:46,109 --> 00:24:49,362 not by law enforcement, but by those who literally 507 00:24:49,445 --> 00:24:51,656 saw it happen in advance? 508 00:24:51,739 --> 00:24:56,494 There are those who believe that not only is the answer yes, 509 00:24:56,578 --> 00:25:01,040 but that the ability to predict the future can be harnessed 510 00:25:01,165 --> 00:25:03,209 in an effort to ensure 511 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:05,920 mankind's destiny. 512 00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:17,849 SHATNER: News organizations broadcast 513 00:25:17,932 --> 00:25:22,687 a series of horrific images that stun viewers across the country. 514 00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:27,942 A tidal wave of mud and shale has swallowed the small, 515 00:25:28,067 --> 00:25:33,406 coal‐mining town of Aberfan in its entirety. 516 00:25:33,531 --> 00:25:37,452 Of the 144 people killed by the landslide, 517 00:25:37,577 --> 00:25:40,747 116 are schoolchildren. 518 00:25:40,872 --> 00:25:43,166 And for this tight‐knit community, 519 00:25:43,249 --> 00:25:47,378 many of whom have lived in Aberfan for generations, 520 00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:50,423 the loss is devastating. 521 00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,550 POPE: One of the first people 522 00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:57,472 to respond to the disaster is psychiatrist John Barker. 523 00:25:58,556 --> 00:26:00,308 Initially, he arrives 524 00:26:00,391 --> 00:26:03,561 to offer consultation to the survivors. 525 00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,397 VIVANCO: So, when he gets there, he's interviewing 526 00:26:06,522 --> 00:26:08,691 parents that had lost children. 527 00:26:08,775 --> 00:26:13,905 He was really surprised to hear that there were premonitions 528 00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:15,698 before it happened. 529 00:26:15,782 --> 00:26:19,452 One boy drew a picture of people amassed on the hillside, 530 00:26:19,577 --> 00:26:22,288 digging into it, and he wrote underneath, "the end." 531 00:26:22,413 --> 00:26:25,416 Also, there was 532 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,503 a young girl who told her mom about a dream where 533 00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:31,923 she said there was this black mass over the school 534 00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:33,508 and she couldn't get in. 535 00:26:33,591 --> 00:26:38,596 Both of these children later went to school and died. 536 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:43,184 POPE: Barker begins to wonder whether 537 00:26:43,267 --> 00:26:45,186 these premonitions could be used 538 00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:48,314 as a sort of early warning system 539 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:52,110 that might prevent future disasters. 540 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,738 So he asked Peter Fairley, who ran the science desk 541 00:26:55,863 --> 00:27:00,243 at the national newspaper, the London Evening Standard, 542 00:27:00,368 --> 00:27:02,328 to consider setting up a program 543 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,914 to collate people's premonitions. 544 00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:09,877 Fairley not only agreed, but he set up 545 00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:14,048 an entire bureau to act as a focal point. 546 00:27:14,173 --> 00:27:17,552 Starting in January 1967, 547 00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:20,388 the bureau commences operations. 548 00:27:20,471 --> 00:27:22,807 Reports come in, and the bureau staff‐‐ 549 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:27,854 they devise an 11‐point system, looking for patterns. 550 00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:33,026 Five points for unusualness, five points for accuracy, 551 00:27:33,067 --> 00:27:34,736 and one point for timing. 552 00:27:34,861 --> 00:27:37,655 SHATNER: The British Premonitions Bureau, 553 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,615 as it would come to be called, 554 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:43,953 collected 469 predictions in its first year. 555 00:27:45,371 --> 00:27:49,917 Unsurprisingly, many never came true. 556 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:53,504 But those submitted by two individuals‐‐ 557 00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:56,174 Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton‐‐ 558 00:27:56,257 --> 00:27:57,884 stood out from the crowd. 559 00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:01,220 POPE: Alan Hencher and Lorna Middleton 560 00:28:01,345 --> 00:28:04,807 made headlines in March 1967 561 00:28:04,891 --> 00:28:08,644 when they both predicted a train accident 562 00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:14,358 just days before a passenger car derailed, killing 49 people. 563 00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:19,072 Hencher also had a premonition about a fatal plane crash, 564 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,533 predicting the number of people who would die. 565 00:28:22,658 --> 00:28:25,661 That kind of accuracy is staggering. 566 00:28:25,745 --> 00:28:27,872 SHATNER: For John Barker, 567 00:28:27,997 --> 00:28:29,999 the notion that Hencher and Middleton's predictions 568 00:28:30,083 --> 00:28:33,503 might allow him to warn people of disasters ahead of time 569 00:28:33,628 --> 00:28:36,672 was an exciting one. 570 00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,133 For the next year, he sent hundreds of what he believed 571 00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,718 to be credible predictions 572 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:44,013 to the editors of the London Evening Standard. 573 00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:48,851 But in the summer of 1968, 574 00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:52,688 there was one deadly premonition that he chose to ignore. 575 00:28:52,772 --> 00:28:54,315 ‐(phone ringing) ‐One that was shared 576 00:28:54,398 --> 00:28:56,567 by both Hencher and Middleton, 577 00:28:56,692 --> 00:28:59,529 and it involved John Barker himself. 578 00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,489 VIVANCO: Around 1:00 in the morning, 579 00:29:01,572 --> 00:29:03,658 Hencher calls Barker. 580 00:29:03,741 --> 00:29:05,785 He's in a panic. 581 00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:08,037 He's got a‐a terrible premonition. 582 00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,248 He says, "Do you have a dark car?" 583 00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:12,083 Barker says, "Yes." 584 00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:14,752 And he tells Barker, "You have to be careful. 585 00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:17,004 Be very, very careful." 586 00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:20,591 Then Barker asks him, "What? Am I in danger?" 587 00:29:20,716 --> 00:29:23,010 Hencher says, "Yes." 588 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:27,515 POPE: Barker wrote a memo the next day 589 00:29:27,598 --> 00:29:31,561 explaining that Hencher could only explain 590 00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:35,314 that the dark car was somehow connected to Barker 591 00:29:35,398 --> 00:29:37,650 and a potentially deadly outcome. 592 00:29:37,733 --> 00:29:39,318 It all seemed pretty vague, 593 00:29:39,402 --> 00:29:42,697 and perhaps that wouldn't have worried Barker so much 594 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,783 were it not for the fact that there was another warning 595 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:49,537 from his other superstar Lorna Middleton. 596 00:29:49,662 --> 00:29:51,789 (siren blaring) 597 00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,833 SHATNER: On August 18, 1968, 598 00:29:53,916 --> 00:29:55,918 less than two years after he had opened 599 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:57,670 his Bureau of Premonitions, 600 00:29:57,753 --> 00:30:01,841 John Barker was suddenly rushed to the hospital. 601 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:07,013 POPE: Barker died of a sudden brain hemorrhage, age 44. 602 00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:11,726 The British Premonitions Bureau closed down shortly thereafter. 603 00:30:11,851 --> 00:30:14,228 SHATNER: As for the dark car? 604 00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:17,857 There are many who are convinced that the answer is simple. 605 00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:21,903 It was the funeral hearse that conveyed John Barker's body 606 00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:24,822 to its final resting place. 607 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:28,701 It raises the question, was Barker's own death 608 00:30:28,784 --> 00:30:30,453 just a coincidence? 609 00:30:30,578 --> 00:30:32,538 Was it self‐fulfilling prophecy, 610 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,041 or like the rest of the bureau's predictions, 611 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:39,170 was fate simply too powerful to be stopped? 612 00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:44,091 Was the leader of the British Premonitions Bureau 613 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:48,512 literally scared to death by other people's visions? 614 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:50,932 Perhaps. But does the ability 615 00:30:51,057 --> 00:30:53,309 to see the future mean our lives are preordained? 616 00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:56,854 Or is it possible that by knowing the future, 617 00:30:56,938 --> 00:31:00,399 we can change and even improve... our destiny? 618 00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:03,486 Maybe we'll find out the answer by investigating 619 00:31:03,569 --> 00:31:06,989 yet another form of prognostication... 620 00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,075 dreams. 621 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:22,338 SHATNER: Cognitive neuroscientist Julia Mossbridge settles 622 00:31:22,421 --> 00:31:24,799 into bed after a long day. 623 00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:28,552 It's a night's sleep that begins like any other... 624 00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:32,682 until she experiences a strange 625 00:31:32,807 --> 00:31:34,684 and disturbing dream. 626 00:31:34,767 --> 00:31:37,728 MOSSBRIDGE: This dream was horrible. 627 00:31:37,853 --> 00:31:40,064 I was taken 628 00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:42,733 to someplace in the Middle East. I didn't know where. 629 00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:47,029 I met this man. 630 00:31:47,113 --> 00:31:49,240 He shows up sometimes in my dreams. 631 00:31:49,323 --> 00:31:51,075 He's like a guide. 632 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,536 There was this outdoor building. 633 00:31:53,619 --> 00:31:55,538 It was mosque‐like 634 00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:56,914 in that it was built out of stone 635 00:31:56,998 --> 00:31:59,834 and there were breezeways. 636 00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:03,045 It was the middle of the day. People are praying. 637 00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:05,006 SHATNER: In the confusing fog of her dream, 638 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:08,384 Julia pieces together an unsettling picture. 639 00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:12,346 It seems that her guide is desperately trying 640 00:32:12,471 --> 00:32:14,348 to warn her of something that is going to happen. 641 00:32:14,473 --> 00:32:15,725 Something dire. 642 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:18,978 MOSSBRIDGE: And he's showing me this event. 643 00:32:20,896 --> 00:32:24,066 There was rubble because there was 644 00:32:24,191 --> 00:32:26,527 a terrorist explosion when people were praying. 645 00:32:26,610 --> 00:32:29,488 And he showed me this writing. 646 00:32:29,572 --> 00:32:31,866 It was Arabic. 647 00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:34,994 There was the letters for "I" and "S," 648 00:32:35,077 --> 00:32:38,873 and I knew that stood for Islamic State. 649 00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:41,083 SHATNER: But before she can awaken herself 650 00:32:41,208 --> 00:32:43,669 from her nightmare, she realizes 651 00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:47,923 he still has one more message to deliver. 652 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:52,345 MOSSBRIDGE: He called the place we were in Kyuck Kyuck. 653 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:54,180 He kept saying "Kyuck Kyuck." 654 00:32:54,263 --> 00:32:56,015 And I didn't know what that meant. 655 00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:57,767 Since I was a kid, 656 00:32:57,892 --> 00:33:00,561 I have had precognitive dreams. 657 00:33:02,229 --> 00:33:04,023 Usually they're describing an event that happens 658 00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:06,859 the next day, the next week, the next month. 659 00:33:06,942 --> 00:33:09,695 So, when I woke up, I wrote it in my dream journal 660 00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:11,155 because that's my habit. I never had 661 00:33:11,238 --> 00:33:13,032 a precognitive dream of something horrible 662 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:15,368 like that on a, on a major world scale. 663 00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:16,494 It shook me. 664 00:33:18,245 --> 00:33:21,207 During the day, I got the news report 665 00:33:21,290 --> 00:33:24,335 of a bombing in Kuwait City, Kuwait. 666 00:33:24,418 --> 00:33:26,879 I figured, "Oh, that was the Kyuck Kyuck." 667 00:33:27,004 --> 00:33:30,174 I had it almost right but not quite. 668 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,260 This happened during noontime prayers. 669 00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:37,223 Responsibility was claimed by ISIS, Islamic State. 670 00:33:40,851 --> 00:33:44,980 I felt heartbroken because I saw it happen. 671 00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,067 SHATNER: Dreams have long been known 672 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,945 to reflect the dreamer's subconscious mind. 673 00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:53,114 Desires, anxieties, 674 00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:57,701 long‐forgotten memories all bubbling to the surface. 675 00:33:57,827 --> 00:34:00,579 But precognitive dreams? 676 00:34:00,704 --> 00:34:02,873 Is it really possible that dreams, 677 00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,543 like the ones we have every night, 678 00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:08,003 can actually predict the future? 679 00:34:08,087 --> 00:34:10,714 KAKU: When we take a person who's dreaming 680 00:34:10,798 --> 00:34:13,008 and put him in a brain scan machine, 681 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:15,886 we begin to realize something very interesting. 682 00:34:16,011 --> 00:34:17,721 Blood flow to the front of the brain 683 00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:19,223 is turned off for the most part. 684 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:22,893 Second, blood flow goes to the emotional part of the brain, 685 00:34:22,977 --> 00:34:24,854 and you start to have nightmares. 686 00:34:24,979 --> 00:34:26,355 You start to have fears. 687 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,109 You imagine the future or have a premonition. 688 00:34:30,192 --> 00:34:32,194 Dreams are important because it allows us 689 00:34:32,319 --> 00:34:34,363 to articulate the fears and premonitions 690 00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:37,741 that we have in the unconscious mind, 691 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,494 and then we're able to evaluate it 692 00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:42,121 with the conscious mind. 693 00:34:42,246 --> 00:34:45,499 SHATNER: As unbelievable as it may have seemed 694 00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:47,418 to her scientific mind, 695 00:34:47,543 --> 00:34:50,588 Julia firmly believed she had seen the future 696 00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:52,423 before it happened. 697 00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:54,341 Having been in this position before 698 00:34:54,383 --> 00:34:56,218 and regretting not doing anything about it, 699 00:34:56,302 --> 00:34:59,972 Julia wasn't going to let the same thing happen again. 700 00:35:00,055 --> 00:35:02,349 In fall of 2017, 701 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:05,603 I had another one of these world stage‐type dreams 702 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,021 that felt precognitive 703 00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:08,898 and that did not feel good. 704 00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,192 There was a cruise ship. 705 00:35:12,818 --> 00:35:14,778 And there were these cartoon 706 00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,739 sort of creatures on the cruise ship. 707 00:35:16,822 --> 00:35:18,949 I thought, "Oh, no. Disney." 708 00:35:19,074 --> 00:35:20,910 And then, after that, 709 00:35:21,035 --> 00:35:22,077 there was a bridge structure. 710 00:35:22,203 --> 00:35:23,287 There was this arching‐‐ 711 00:35:23,412 --> 00:35:25,080 it was actually quite beautiful‐‐ 712 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,541 this arching bridge structure. 713 00:35:27,625 --> 00:35:29,001 And the concern in the dream 714 00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,545 was, that's where the explosion would happen. 715 00:35:32,922 --> 00:35:35,466 And that scared me. 716 00:35:35,549 --> 00:35:36,967 I'd never seen a bridge like that. 717 00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:38,677 So I googled 718 00:35:38,802 --> 00:35:40,054 the shape of the bridge, 719 00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:42,181 and the first thing that shows up 720 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:44,892 is the Coronado Bridge in San Diego. 721 00:35:45,017 --> 00:35:46,227 I remembered that I'd promised myself 722 00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:48,062 that I was gonna go to authorities 723 00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,355 even if I felt stupid. 724 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:51,357 MULLEN: I was detailed 725 00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,734 to the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force 726 00:35:53,859 --> 00:35:55,528 in San Diego, California. 727 00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:58,447 Julia contacted 728 00:35:58,572 --> 00:35:59,865 somebody within NCIS, 729 00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:01,867 and my boss got word of it 730 00:36:01,992 --> 00:36:03,536 and said, "Hey, just look into this." 731 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:06,997 I knew very little, if anything, about precog. 732 00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:08,666 I was curious. 733 00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:11,710 I knew from the very second that I started talking to her 734 00:36:11,835 --> 00:36:13,254 that there was no ulterior motive. 735 00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:16,215 When she gave me the information, she was 736 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:19,468 very specific on the location and the time. 737 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:23,847 She had actual information and wanted somebody to run with this 738 00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,267 to prevent something that she saw in a dream. 739 00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:29,436 Most cops don't like using information 740 00:36:29,562 --> 00:36:31,397 that they can't explain. 741 00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:35,609 And precog is something that is unexplainable. 742 00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,737 But if this is something that would actually work, 743 00:36:38,862 --> 00:36:40,698 why not give it a try? 744 00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:45,536 The Coronado Bay Bridge in San Diego is one of the big things 745 00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:50,207 that we try to protect, along with all of the Navy assets. 746 00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:52,251 There are always threats. 747 00:36:53,252 --> 00:36:56,130 We were able to move patrol boats 748 00:36:56,213 --> 00:36:59,133 ‐to provide coverage around the bridge... ‐(siren wailing) 749 00:37:03,846 --> 00:37:06,098 ...and nothing happened. 750 00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:11,645 Did nothing happen because there were patrol boats, 751 00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:15,316 and somebody who was looking to do something nefarious 752 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:17,318 against the bridge basically said, 753 00:37:17,401 --> 00:37:18,986 "I don't want to be caught"? 754 00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:22,531 Or was the attack not even going to happen? 755 00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:27,161 The simple fact that nothing happened was, 756 00:37:27,244 --> 00:37:28,829 in my mind, a win. 757 00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:34,793 MOSSBRIDGE: If you're going to go into this world and use this talent 758 00:37:34,877 --> 00:37:38,922 to create data that can be used to prevent something, 759 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:40,507 sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 760 00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:44,178 But as long as the bad thing doesn't happen, good. 761 00:37:45,512 --> 00:37:48,182 SHATNER: There are those who believe Julia Mossbridge prevented 762 00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:50,976 a dangerous attack by seeing the future 763 00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:52,645 and acting on her vision. 764 00:37:52,728 --> 00:37:56,523 And there are skeptics who question whether 765 00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,609 there was any danger in the first place. 766 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,531 But perhaps both sides are missing the target. 767 00:38:04,615 --> 00:38:08,702 Because, according to one incredible theory, 768 00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:11,747 the past, present and future 769 00:38:11,872 --> 00:38:14,500 may actually be the same thing. 770 00:38:21,590 --> 00:38:25,302 SHATNER: The International Data Corporation publishes a report 771 00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:29,056 which estimates that, by the year 2022, 772 00:38:29,139 --> 00:38:33,310 over $270 billion will be spent annually 773 00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:35,020 on a new form of prophecy. 774 00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:38,649 It's called predictive analytics. 775 00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:43,070 Only this time, the prophets will be made of ones and zeros 776 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:46,865 instead of flesh and blood. 777 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:51,412 Predictive analytics is a fancy way of saying 778 00:38:51,537 --> 00:38:55,207 "Look at the data and figure out why things happen." 779 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:57,334 Very important. 780 00:38:57,376 --> 00:38:59,169 Banks, corporations, computer companies 781 00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:02,423 spend hundreds of millions of dollars 782 00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:05,175 sifting through tons of data, 783 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:09,179 trying to find instances of causality. 784 00:39:09,263 --> 00:39:11,056 If I raise the price of a product, 785 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,350 does my profit margin go down? 786 00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,061 Will I go bankrupt? 787 00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:18,772 In other words, corporations constantly try 788 00:39:18,897 --> 00:39:20,190 to predict the future. 789 00:39:20,315 --> 00:39:21,692 That's the name of the game. 790 00:39:21,775 --> 00:39:25,529 You predict it wrong, you zag when you should zig, 791 00:39:25,612 --> 00:39:28,240 you go bankrupt. 792 00:39:28,365 --> 00:39:31,702 I think predictive analytics operate very similarly 793 00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:33,120 to how our brains work. 794 00:39:33,245 --> 00:39:37,374 Our minds come equipped to make predictions about the future 795 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:40,210 based on our past experiences, 796 00:39:40,335 --> 00:39:42,045 and they operate very similarly. 797 00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:44,757 In fact, machine‐learning algorithms, 798 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,634 the type that carry out predictive analytics, 799 00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:51,263 are often called neural network models 800 00:39:51,346 --> 00:39:53,223 because they're designed to mimic 801 00:39:53,348 --> 00:39:55,684 how neurons work in our brains. 802 00:39:57,394 --> 00:40:00,689 SHATNER: The idea of advanced computers pulling information 803 00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:02,858 from the cloud in order to predict the future 804 00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:05,569 may sound like science fiction. 805 00:40:06,653 --> 00:40:09,865 But in truth this idea has been around 806 00:40:09,948 --> 00:40:12,701 for thousands of years. 807 00:40:12,785 --> 00:40:15,454 Every culture in history has had some concept 808 00:40:15,537 --> 00:40:17,039 of a universal mind. 809 00:40:17,122 --> 00:40:19,917 The Greeks used to call it nous, or a great overmind. 810 00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:23,378 In Vedic tradition, it's sometimes called Akasha, 811 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,381 or a kind of universal ether. 812 00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:29,301 People like Nostradamus and any seer 813 00:40:29,384 --> 00:40:32,763 will tune into what we call the Akashic record. 814 00:40:34,264 --> 00:40:36,683 This is like the memory of all things. 815 00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,560 It's the universal mind. 816 00:40:38,644 --> 00:40:41,814 We enter it by going into a state of meditation 817 00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:46,735 and connecting with the past, the present and the future. 818 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:51,323 One of the great secrets of the mystical tradition is that 819 00:40:51,406 --> 00:40:54,284 all human souls are one. 820 00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:57,704 So we are part of a collective whole. 821 00:40:57,788 --> 00:41:01,166 In later psychology, it has been understood 822 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:05,045 to be called a collective unconscious. 823 00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:06,380 In ancient times 824 00:41:06,505 --> 00:41:09,925 it was referred to as a collective soul, 825 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,886 which is the collective mind of all humanity, 826 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:15,973 past, present, future. 827 00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:17,766 MOSSBRIDGE: I think the people who work in this way, 828 00:41:17,891 --> 00:41:20,185 what they're doing is they're tapping into 829 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:22,229 some source of information. 830 00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:24,606 I don't think the question is 831 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,358 "Why are we able to get information about the future?" 832 00:41:26,483 --> 00:41:27,943 I think the question is more like, 833 00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:30,696 "Why don't we get more information about the future?" 834 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,367 A universal mind, 835 00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,828 all‐knowing and all‐encompassing. 836 00:41:37,911 --> 00:41:41,540 But do we really want to know everything 837 00:41:41,582 --> 00:41:42,624 before it happens? 838 00:41:42,749 --> 00:41:45,168 Time of our own death, perhaps? 839 00:41:45,252 --> 00:41:46,628 Or the fate of our loved ones? 840 00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:51,550 Or... how about the end of the world? 841 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:55,012 Perhaps we're better off not knowing. 842 00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:58,724 Letting those things remain... 843 00:41:58,849 --> 00:42:00,475 the unexplained. 66042

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