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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,085 --> 00:00:03,795 There is an island 2 00:00:03,921 --> 00:00:07,007 in the North Atlantic 3 00:00:07,132 --> 00:00:09,635 where people have been looking for an incredible treasure 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,512 for more than 200 years. 5 00:00:11,637 --> 00:00:13,639 Hold back! 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,806 Oh! 7 00:00:14,932 --> 00:00:16,141 SHATNER: To date, 8 00:00:16,266 --> 00:00:19,144 six men have died trying to solve the mystery. 9 00:00:19,228 --> 00:00:21,772 ‐And according to legend... ‐(explosion) ‐Whoa! 10 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:26,860 ‐SHATNER: ...one more will have to die... ‐(crow caws) 11 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:29,196 ...before the treasure can be found. 12 00:00:30,531 --> 00:00:32,658 Treasure? 13 00:00:32,783 --> 00:00:34,993 Curses? (chuckles) 14 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:37,120 Sounds like the stuff that would ignite the imagination 15 00:00:37,204 --> 00:00:39,331 of your average teenage boy. 16 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:43,085 And that's exactly what happened more than a half a century ago, 17 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:46,129 when two brothers‐‐ Rick and Marty Lagina‐‐ 18 00:00:46,255 --> 00:00:48,882 read an article in Reader's Digest magazine 19 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:51,969 that changed their lives forever. 20 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:55,264 But is there really a vast and incredible treasure 21 00:00:55,347 --> 00:00:57,015 buried somewhere on Oak Island? 22 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:59,142 And could that treasure really be guarded 23 00:00:59,226 --> 00:01:01,311 by a deadly curse? 24 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:03,605 Well, that is... 25 00:01:03,689 --> 00:01:06,400 what we'll try and find out. 26 00:01:06,525 --> 00:01:08,485 â™Ș â™Ș 27 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:28,380 SHATNER: On this small island 28 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:30,299 just off the coast of Mahone Bay, 29 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,218 the Lagina brothers‐‐ Rick and Marty‐‐ 30 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:35,137 along with their partners, 31 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:38,140 have invested thousands of hours 32 00:01:38,223 --> 00:01:41,018 and millions of dollars to find a treasure, 33 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:46,064 and in doing so, solve a centuries‐old mystery. 34 00:01:46,189 --> 00:01:48,984 MARTY: We hope to find the treasure. 35 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:51,486 Either find some fabled treasure, 36 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:53,363 or figure out what happened here. 37 00:01:53,488 --> 00:01:56,325 Either one of those is a success. 38 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:58,493 That's what we're hoping for. 39 00:01:58,577 --> 00:02:01,246 RICK: Mine is, find the one thing 40 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:05,167 that opens the door on the first page of this wonderful story. 41 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:06,668 Find the one thing. 42 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:10,505 SHATNER: But believe it or not, 43 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:13,216 even with all the heavy equipment they've brought in, 44 00:02:13,342 --> 00:02:16,136 and despite finding a number of compelling clues, 45 00:02:16,219 --> 00:02:18,972 and even several intriguing artifacts, 46 00:02:19,056 --> 00:02:22,017 not one piece of genuine treasure 47 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:24,645 has ever been found on Oak Island. 48 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,439 Even after centuries 49 00:02:27,522 --> 00:02:30,359 of digging and drilling, and after the loss 50 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:34,404 of no fewer than six lives, there has never been any proof 51 00:02:34,529 --> 00:02:37,240 that a treasure was ever buried there. 52 00:02:37,366 --> 00:02:41,828 So then, why do the Laginas and their partners keep at it? 53 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:46,333 According to legend, 54 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:49,336 the story began one night in 1795, 55 00:02:49,461 --> 00:02:51,797 when 18‐year‐old Daniel McGinnis 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,135 noticed strange lights coming from nearby Oak Island. 57 00:02:57,260 --> 00:03:01,181 Deciding to row across the frigid waters of Mahone Bay 58 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:04,059 to investigate, he brings with him two friends‐‐ 59 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:07,145 Anthony Vaughan and John Smith. 60 00:03:07,229 --> 00:03:10,023 After reaching the island, 61 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:12,275 the three young men race toward the source 62 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:13,652 of the strange lights. 63 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:15,320 But what they find 64 00:03:15,404 --> 00:03:18,657 when they get there is equally mysterious‐‐ 65 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:21,368 a ship's block and tackle 66 00:03:21,451 --> 00:03:23,829 hanging from the limb of an oak tree, 67 00:03:23,912 --> 00:03:25,622 and just beneath it, 68 00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:29,459 a large, circular depression in the ground, 69 00:03:29,584 --> 00:03:34,548 as if something was recently buried and then covered up. 70 00:03:35,841 --> 00:03:37,634 PAUL TROUTMAN: Daniel McGinnis 71 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:41,555 had known about the folklore of pirates being in the area, 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,851 so he was suspicious that maybe there was a treasure here. 73 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:49,479 They came back the next day and started digging. 74 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:53,525 They started digging down, and they found a row of logs. 75 00:03:53,608 --> 00:03:56,403 And every ten feet, they kept digging, 76 00:03:56,486 --> 00:03:58,655 and they went down to as far as 30 feet. 77 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:01,908 And they found putty and charcoal, 78 00:04:02,033 --> 00:04:04,494 and figured that there was something to this mystery. 79 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:07,956 SHATNER: Convinced that no one would go to the trouble 80 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,917 of constructing such an elaborate underground pit 81 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:15,297 unless it was to bury something of tremendous value, 82 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:20,427 for the next nine years, they dug deeper and deeper, 83 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:26,266 until, in 1804, when they had reached a depth of 90 feet, 84 00:04:26,349 --> 00:04:29,144 they made a remarkable discovery. 85 00:04:29,186 --> 00:04:31,563 One that seemed to confirm their belief 86 00:04:31,646 --> 00:04:36,485 that they were on the brink of finding something extraordinary. 87 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:39,654 There, embedded in the wooden platform, 88 00:04:39,738 --> 00:04:43,325 was a large, rectangular slab of granite 89 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:47,120 on which was carved a number of strange symbols, 90 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:49,664 almost like Egyptian hieroglyphs. 91 00:04:49,748 --> 00:04:52,209 But when they pulled the stone up, 92 00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:54,377 they were met with another surprise. 93 00:04:54,503 --> 00:04:57,297 The hole they dug quickly flooded with seawater, 94 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,174 as if by removing the stone, 95 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:02,427 they had sprung an ingeniously‐designed booby trap. 96 00:05:02,511 --> 00:05:05,639 The event thwarted all subsequent attempts 97 00:05:05,764 --> 00:05:07,557 to dig in the area, 98 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:10,560 which was now known as "the Money Pit." 99 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:13,772 DAVID WHITEHEAD: For the next 200 years, 100 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:16,316 flooding would hamper any attempt 101 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:18,652 to uncover buried treasure there. 102 00:05:18,777 --> 00:05:22,280 Until the flooding problem is solved, 103 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:24,533 there is very little likelihood 104 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:26,952 that any treasure will be found there. 105 00:05:29,204 --> 00:05:32,874 SHATNER: When the symbols on the stone slab were later translated, 106 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,668 it was believed to read, 107 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:38,630 "Forty feet below two million pounds lie buried." 108 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:43,176 But many Oak Island theorists weren't so certain 109 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:45,095 this translation was accurate. 110 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:48,598 After all, who said it was meant to be translated into English? 111 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:51,977 French, Spanish, Portuguese pirates were known 112 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,938 to frequent these islands ever since the 1600s. 113 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:58,650 Some believed the translation offered instructions 114 00:05:58,775 --> 00:06:01,778 on how to shut off the booby traps, 115 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,321 while others insisted 116 00:06:03,446 --> 00:06:05,991 the symbols were placed there as a deadly curse, 117 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:09,327 daring anyone who continued the search for the treasure 118 00:06:09,452 --> 00:06:12,664 to proceed at the risk of their life. 119 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:14,499 D'ARCY O'CONNOR: There's been stories 120 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:15,667 of the curse of Oak Island 121 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:19,379 going way back, even before 1795. 122 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:22,632 People believe this island is cursed, 123 00:06:22,757 --> 00:06:26,177 that if you get a little too close to the truth, 124 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:29,639 to the treasure, your life was in danger. 125 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:34,477 We don't know how curses work or if they work. 126 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:36,563 Is there some kind of metaphysical power? 127 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,481 Or is it the power of suggestion? 128 00:06:38,565 --> 00:06:40,984 Perhaps it's self‐fulfilling. 129 00:06:41,109 --> 00:06:45,822 Somebody hears about the curse, and so, it has effect. 130 00:06:45,947 --> 00:06:48,199 Maybe you're not a superstitious person, 131 00:06:48,325 --> 00:06:50,827 you don't believe in curses, but just, 132 00:06:50,911 --> 00:06:52,662 it's not unusual 133 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:55,457 that even if you think something's impossible, 134 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:57,584 still a lot of emotions are just driven 135 00:06:57,709 --> 00:06:59,586 through unconscious processes. 136 00:06:59,669 --> 00:07:01,463 And knowing that you're in a place 137 00:07:01,546 --> 00:07:05,800 that is cursed might make you feel bad and uneasy. 138 00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:11,056 So when we talk about a curse on Oak Island, 139 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:15,393 is the curse manifested in some sort of supernatural element, 140 00:07:15,477 --> 00:07:19,022 or do people just feel that their luck isn't there? 141 00:07:19,147 --> 00:07:21,524 DOUG CROWELL: The island has a long history 142 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:24,027 of something happening 143 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:25,820 just when you're on the cusp 144 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:28,782 of retrieving the treasure or getting the answers. 145 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:32,118 SHATNER: But were the stories of curses justified? 146 00:07:32,202 --> 00:07:35,413 After all, what good is a curse without a victim? 147 00:07:35,538 --> 00:07:37,248 That question was brutally answered 148 00:07:37,374 --> 00:07:40,710 on a hot summer's day in 1861. 149 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:43,463 TROUTMAN: There was a man that was working at the Money Pit 150 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:45,298 with a steam boiler. 151 00:07:45,382 --> 00:07:47,467 (steam hissing, rhythmic whooshing) 152 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:51,012 The boiler overpressurized and exploded... 153 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,847 (loud explosion) 154 00:07:52,973 --> 00:07:55,934 ...and apparently, scalded him to death and injured 155 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:57,394 a few others. 156 00:07:57,519 --> 00:07:58,895 Unfortunately, we don't know his name 157 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,356 because the death records weren't kept 158 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:03,942 until 1864 in the province. 159 00:08:06,736 --> 00:08:11,408 SHATNER: On March 26, 1897, 160 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:13,326 tragedy struck again, 161 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,870 when 47‐year‐old Maynard Kaiser, 162 00:08:15,954 --> 00:08:19,791 while working for the island's new owner, Frederick Blair, 163 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:24,713 became Oak Island's second human casualty. 164 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:26,631 They had a pit nearby the Money Pit 165 00:08:26,715 --> 00:08:28,258 that they were using for fresh water. 166 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:31,636 And they would put the buckets down there and bring them up. 167 00:08:31,761 --> 00:08:34,389 And one of the buckets had become disconnected, 168 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:37,892 so Maynard Kaiser went down on the rope 169 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:41,312 to reconnect the bucket. 170 00:08:41,438 --> 00:08:43,314 And as they were coming back up, 171 00:08:43,398 --> 00:08:45,817 the weight of the water in the bucket and the additional weight 172 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:49,446 from Maynard caused the rope to unspool. 173 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:52,157 ‐(man screaming) ‐And he fell to his death, 174 00:08:52,198 --> 00:08:53,950 some 80 feet down. 175 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:59,831 The aftermath of this unfortunate incident 176 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:02,834 is that many of the workers, 177 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:05,462 being quite superstitious, it is said, 178 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:08,089 refused to go back down in the pits. 179 00:09:09,591 --> 00:09:12,635 In fact, they quit their jobs, 180 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:15,764 and work came to a standstill on the island. 181 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,729 SHATNER: Maynard Kaiser's body was never recovered, 182 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:27,484 as if devoured by the Money Pit itself. 183 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,861 Oak Island now had a curse, 184 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:33,406 and its second taste of human blood. 185 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:36,159 But was there a treasure? 186 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:39,621 And, if so, who buried it there? 187 00:09:39,704 --> 00:09:42,665 What group of people had the kind of skills 188 00:09:42,749 --> 00:09:44,501 needed to booby‐trap 189 00:09:44,626 --> 00:09:47,587 something buried at least ten stories underground? 190 00:09:47,670 --> 00:09:51,424 For many, the answer was simple... 191 00:09:51,508 --> 00:09:53,635 pirates. 192 00:09:58,556 --> 00:10:02,060 SHATNER: On a humid summer day in 1969, 193 00:10:02,185 --> 00:10:04,729 Oak Island land owner and treasure hunter, Fred Nolan, 194 00:10:04,854 --> 00:10:07,232 makes a remarkable discovery. 195 00:10:07,357 --> 00:10:10,693 While investigating the island's triangle‐shaped swamp, 196 00:10:10,819 --> 00:10:13,530 he unearths compelling evidence 197 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:17,158 that a large ship might have been buried there. 198 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:20,662 Fred actually retrieved ship artifacts from the swamp. 199 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:24,332 There's was a ship's mast, there was ship's scuppers. 200 00:10:24,415 --> 00:10:26,292 Did he suspect there was a ship? 201 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:29,254 The answer would almost certainly have to be "yes." 202 00:10:29,337 --> 00:10:32,549 SHATNER: The find serves to confirm 203 00:10:32,674 --> 00:10:35,677 what Fred Nolan has believed for some time: 204 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:39,013 that the Oak Island swamp is man‐made, 205 00:10:39,097 --> 00:10:44,310 and that it was created to hide a large sailing ship. 206 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:46,563 But why? 207 00:10:46,688 --> 00:10:48,773 Well, the main thing that supports the idea 208 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:51,818 that Oak Island was two islands 209 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:54,988 is that one end of the island is made of granite, 210 00:10:55,113 --> 00:10:59,159 and the other is sandstone, limestone, crumbly rocks. 211 00:10:59,284 --> 00:11:02,370 They're two completely different compositions 212 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,164 on one end of the island and the other. 213 00:11:04,247 --> 00:11:06,666 So it‐it almost seems like they're two... 214 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:08,918 two separate... islands. 215 00:11:09,961 --> 00:11:12,463 Fred's theory that somebody sailed a boat 216 00:11:12,589 --> 00:11:15,049 into the waters, you know, 217 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:17,302 between these two very close islands and sunk it 218 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:20,805 with a treasure on it was, like, it was one more outlandish idea, 219 00:11:20,889 --> 00:11:22,307 until people started pulling 220 00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:26,311 pieces of an old Spanish ship out of the swamp. 221 00:11:26,436 --> 00:11:29,647 (chuckles): So... it looks like a ship was sunk there. 222 00:11:29,731 --> 00:11:31,524 (crow cawing) 223 00:11:31,649 --> 00:11:33,401 SHATNER: Fred Nolan's discovery 224 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:35,445 also seemed to validate the theory, 225 00:11:35,528 --> 00:11:38,698 held by Daniel McGinnis back in 1795, 226 00:11:38,781 --> 00:11:41,451 that not only was an incredible treasure buried 227 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,494 somewhere on Oak Island 228 00:11:43,578 --> 00:11:45,747 but that it was put there 229 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,458 sometime before the 18th century... 230 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:50,168 by pirates. 231 00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:52,795 SULLIVAN: It was a time when pirate treasures 232 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:55,632 or caches of gold coins 233 00:11:55,757 --> 00:11:58,009 were being discovered all over Nova Scotia. 234 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,763 A lot of them buried by pirates. 235 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:03,640 And so people 236 00:12:03,765 --> 00:12:06,434 were actually digging up treasures occasionally. 237 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:08,811 Naturally, that's what people would imagine first 238 00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:13,149 about Oak Island, because it was the only known theory 239 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:16,653 of people laying in treasure, uh, and it persisted 240 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:19,656 because nobody came up with any alternatives. 241 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:22,575 CROWELL: I think one of the reasons it's so easy 242 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,286 to associate pirate lore with Oak Island 243 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:28,289 is that Mahone Bay was unpopulated at that time. 244 00:12:28,373 --> 00:12:31,626 So, I mean, this was a very secluded bay, 245 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,253 a perfect haven for pirates 246 00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:35,964 that wanted to be out of the way of prying eyes. 247 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:38,967 TROUTMAN: Several pirates have been credited 248 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,636 with possibly depositing the treasure here on Oak Island, 249 00:12:41,719 --> 00:12:43,680 including Peter Easton... 250 00:12:43,805 --> 00:12:45,723 Blackbeard... 251 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:47,433 and William Kidd. 252 00:12:47,517 --> 00:12:50,353 In the early accounts of the Oak Island mystery, 253 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:52,647 it was often told that... 254 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:55,817 a dying man in the New England states 255 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:58,486 said he was a member of Captain Kidd's crew 256 00:12:58,569 --> 00:13:00,488 and that he had a treasure map 257 00:13:00,571 --> 00:13:02,865 to where Kidd's treasure was buried. 258 00:13:02,991 --> 00:13:05,618 Many historians will tell you that Captain Kidd 259 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:07,203 never visited Nova Scotia, 260 00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:09,914 that he never got further north than Boston. 261 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,834 There is a lot of local lore here in Nova Scotia, though, 262 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:14,794 that he did. 263 00:13:18,089 --> 00:13:20,174 MARTY: My favorite pirate of all time is, uh, 264 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:21,467 is Peter Easton, 265 00:13:21,592 --> 00:13:23,970 who was based up here in Newfoundland, 266 00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:28,141 and he had a fleet of something like 14 or 17 ships. 267 00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:31,436 They called him the Pirate Admiral. 268 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,646 CROWELL: He often... 269 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:35,773 stuck close to Newfoundland 270 00:13:35,857 --> 00:13:37,817 and preyed on the trade routes from there. 271 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,820 Once a year, the Spanish galleons would come 272 00:13:40,903 --> 00:13:43,448 from South America back to Spain. 273 00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:44,615 He would prey on them. 274 00:13:44,699 --> 00:13:46,326 He amassed quite a fortune. 275 00:13:46,409 --> 00:13:48,703 I've heard it said that Peter Easton amassed 276 00:13:48,786 --> 00:13:50,788 two million pounds. 277 00:13:50,872 --> 00:13:52,874 That is really interesting when you consider 278 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:55,460 what the solution to the cipher 279 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:57,378 that was on the 90 Foot Stone said, 280 00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:01,466 which was: "Forty feet below two million pounds are buried." 281 00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:04,677 Edward Teach, known as Blackbeard, 282 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:07,388 had said, before he was hung, 283 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:10,308 that he had buried his treasure somewhere 284 00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:14,228 where "none but myself and the devil can find it." 285 00:14:14,312 --> 00:14:16,939 He claimed to have hidden the treasure somewhere 286 00:14:17,023 --> 00:14:18,691 in the New World, 287 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:23,363 so people made the connection between Teach and Oak Island. 288 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,866 SHATNER: The Pirate Admiral, 289 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,494 Captain Kidd 290 00:14:29,619 --> 00:14:31,871 and Blackbeard. 291 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,706 Did these infamous buccaneers 292 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:37,752 really bury their stolen treasures on Oak Island? 293 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:39,754 And even if they did, where did they get 294 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:42,465 the incredible engineering skills 295 00:14:42,590 --> 00:14:45,968 that would have enabled them to bury a treasure so ingeniously, 296 00:14:46,052 --> 00:14:49,430 complete with booby traps? 297 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:52,308 You know, when I was first asked whether it was possible 298 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:54,977 pirates could've constructed the Money Pit, I scoffed. 299 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:56,979 You know, I mean, because pirates would, 300 00:14:57,063 --> 00:14:58,564 what would they do with their booty? 301 00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:00,441 They'd dig a hole ten feet deep, 302 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:03,736 bury it and come back for it when they were ready. 303 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:06,823 But I didn't know then about the works that pirates had created 304 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,493 at, uh, Port Royal in Jamaica and on Tortuga, 305 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:15,164 which are incredibly elaborate systems of tunnels and vaults 306 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:18,626 that more than match in scope what's been done on Oak Island. 307 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:20,628 So there clearly were pirate engineers, 308 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:25,842 and I couldn't be as dismissive of the pirate theory after that. 309 00:15:27,051 --> 00:15:29,011 SHATNER: But even if pirates did hide 310 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:32,348 an incredible treasure on Oak Island, 311 00:15:32,473 --> 00:15:35,393 is it really possible that it would bear a deadly curse? 312 00:15:35,518 --> 00:15:39,355 There are some Oak Island historians who are convinced 313 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:43,609 that the answer is a disturbing yes. 314 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:47,447 In pirate folklore, it's a common thing 315 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:49,991 that they would bury somebody that was alive 316 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:52,034 to guard the treasure as a spirit 317 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:53,661 so it would be cursed and haunted, 318 00:15:53,744 --> 00:15:56,456 so nobody would be able to get access to the treasure. 319 00:15:56,539 --> 00:15:58,833 That seems to play into a lot of the myths 320 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:02,086 regarding the‐the curse on the island. 321 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,964 One of the stories is that pirates may have buried 322 00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:08,009 their treasure on the island in treasure tunnels. 323 00:16:08,134 --> 00:16:10,511 And they had slaves digging for them. 324 00:16:10,595 --> 00:16:14,974 And in the process, they left them there to die. 325 00:16:16,517 --> 00:16:18,019 (screams) 326 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:20,646 And as they knew they were dying, 327 00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:22,482 those slaves cursed those pirates 328 00:16:22,565 --> 00:16:27,069 and cursed that treasure, and by extension, the whole island. 329 00:16:27,195 --> 00:16:29,113 (wailing, chains rattling) 330 00:16:29,197 --> 00:16:31,657 Sometimes those near the tunnels late at night 331 00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:34,160 could hear the rattling of chains. 332 00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:39,707 Perhaps that's the energy we're dealing with today. 333 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:43,085 It is like a time bomb, 334 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:47,215 something that goes down through the ages. 335 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:52,470 The idea that Oak Island might be haunted by the souls 336 00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:55,973 of those who dug the treasure tunnels had a chilling effect 337 00:16:56,098 --> 00:16:58,100 on pretty much everyone who came there. 338 00:16:58,184 --> 00:17:00,603 So far, two men had died horribly. 339 00:17:00,686 --> 00:17:04,774 But Oak Island's reputation as cursed didn't really take hold 340 00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:09,820 until a man came to the island claiming that he and he alone 341 00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:11,322 could solve the mystery. 342 00:17:11,405 --> 00:17:14,242 It was a notion that would ultimately cost him 343 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:19,121 and three other men, including his son, their lives. 344 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:29,131 SHATNER: An article appears in Coronet magazine 345 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,467 called "The Buried Treasure of Oak Island." 346 00:17:31,592 --> 00:17:34,929 It attracts the attention of a former motorcycle daredevil 347 00:17:35,012 --> 00:17:37,056 named Robert Restall. 348 00:17:37,181 --> 00:17:40,142 Having professionally toured Europe and North America 349 00:17:40,268 --> 00:17:43,145 with his wife Mildred throughout the 1930s and '40s, 350 00:17:43,229 --> 00:17:46,482 Robert was now a man who struggled to find work 351 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:48,943 that earned him enough to provide for his family. 352 00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:53,864 But now, after reading about the possibility of a vast treasure 353 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:57,493 buried deep beneath the surface of a small Canadian island, 354 00:17:57,577 --> 00:18:01,747 Robert became convinced that he had both the engineering skills 355 00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:07,628 and the determination to solve the Oak Island mystery. 356 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:10,756 Robert Restall got involved in Oak Island 357 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,801 like so many others have, by reading a magazine article. 358 00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:15,803 So when he read about Oak Island, 359 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:20,474 he got every single available document, book, you name it, 360 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,436 maps, charts, and studied Oak Island. 361 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:25,646 It was his passion. He would stay up at night 362 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:28,649 reading, like, the survey maps of Oak Island 363 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:30,943 and looking for clues and codes and things. 364 00:18:31,027 --> 00:18:34,864 SHATNER: After making a deal with the owner of the island Mel Chappell 365 00:18:34,989 --> 00:18:37,700 on October 15, 1959, 366 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:40,828 Robert Restall moves his family onto the island 367 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:42,705 and takes up the search. 368 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,498 RICK RESTALL: I was just a nine year old boy. 369 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:47,168 It was, uh, it was like leaving the city 370 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:49,587 and arriving in some paradise. 371 00:18:49,670 --> 00:18:54,216 It was just full of life, color, nature, 372 00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:56,218 and, uh, I couldn't have been happier. 373 00:18:56,344 --> 00:19:00,181 For almost two or three years, I think, 374 00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:03,225 I was the luckiest kid in the world. 375 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:09,815 Many people talk about the treasure of Oak Island, 376 00:19:09,899 --> 00:19:16,030 but the treasure to my dad was not so much the money, 377 00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:20,993 but it was being the one who was able to unravel 378 00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:24,872 the mystery of the island. 379 00:19:26,457 --> 00:19:29,543 RICK: The men were always busy digging... 380 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:35,174 ...or writing letters to investors 381 00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:36,967 or working on a piece of machinery 382 00:19:37,051 --> 00:19:40,513 that was becoming problematic. 383 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:43,891 Or as Bobby did, uh, 384 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:49,271 making maps and drawings of the work that was ongoing. 385 00:19:51,232 --> 00:19:53,567 LAMB: My dad was totally innovative. 386 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,861 And he knew what the others had done 387 00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:57,780 and where they had fallen short. 388 00:19:57,863 --> 00:20:00,658 Up to that point, people didn't really trust 389 00:20:00,783 --> 00:20:03,202 the work of the person ahead of them. 390 00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:05,663 But Dad wasn't gonna make that mistake. 391 00:20:05,788 --> 00:20:09,375 He was going to take everything just the one step further. 392 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,335 That's all he had to do. 393 00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,546 It wasn't a big deal. 394 00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:16,590 And he really believed he could do it in about three months. 395 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:20,720 SHATNER: Unfortunately for Robert Restall, 396 00:20:20,803 --> 00:20:24,807 three months eventually became five long years, 397 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:29,228 during which his family endured the harshest of conditions. 398 00:20:29,353 --> 00:20:31,981 Bitter cold in the winter, 399 00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:34,316 sweltering heat during the summer. 400 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,818 For Robert Restall, 401 00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:40,072 determination eventually turned into desperation. 402 00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:44,618 And desperation into obsession. 403 00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:46,162 If you're trying to understand the mindset 404 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:48,372 of a treasure hunter, it's actually very useful 405 00:20:48,456 --> 00:20:51,250 to try to understand the psychology behind gambling. 406 00:20:52,168 --> 00:20:55,588 Sometimes gamblers will spend many, many hours 407 00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:58,632 at the same slot machine, and in a sense, you could say 408 00:20:58,716 --> 00:21:01,302 that's like a microcosm of what's happening 409 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,637 with very obsessed treasure hunters. 410 00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:07,725 In the case of either treasure hunting or gambling, 411 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:10,936 if the person is failing after many repeated attempts 412 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:12,688 and not getting any reward, 413 00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:16,942 most often, people will eventually give out. 414 00:21:18,527 --> 00:21:22,323 But that's what separates these obsessive personalities 415 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:24,658 from the ones that will just quit. 416 00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:28,412 And they will keep on chasing that rush 417 00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:30,456 and building up that anticipation 418 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:33,292 until they get rewards. 419 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:37,922 I think obsession is the salient characteristic 420 00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:39,173 of what happens on this island. 421 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:40,299 I really, really do. 422 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:43,302 And knowing that that condition exists here, 423 00:21:43,427 --> 00:21:45,638 I think it's something to be wary of. 424 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:48,933 I think it's easy to become obsessed with this. 425 00:21:49,016 --> 00:21:52,812 I feel that the treasure is here and that we can get it, 426 00:21:52,895 --> 00:21:56,732 and we're going to stay here until we do. 427 00:21:56,857 --> 00:21:59,985 SHATNER: By 1965, Robert Restall had poured everything he had 428 00:22:00,069 --> 00:22:01,445 into Oak Island. 429 00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:04,406 He couldn't leave empty‐handed. 430 00:22:04,532 --> 00:22:08,160 And then, on August 17, 1965, 431 00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:09,370 Robert Restall, 432 00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:12,289 his eldest son Bobby, 433 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:14,083 and two of his coworkers 434 00:22:14,208 --> 00:22:17,336 would become part of Oak Island history. 435 00:22:17,461 --> 00:22:20,965 But not in the way they had hoped. 436 00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:23,759 That afternoon, Robert had intended to travel 437 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:25,928 to the mainland to visit the bank. 438 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:28,222 But he took one last walk to take another look 439 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,140 at their current work. 440 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:33,227 And while he was looking in the shaft, 441 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,145 he tumbled in. 442 00:22:35,229 --> 00:22:36,480 â™Ș â™Ș 443 00:22:36,564 --> 00:22:39,024 His son Bobby saw his father 444 00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:40,359 tumble into the shaft, 445 00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:43,279 and quickly went to his aid. 446 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,073 Carl Graeser was very close behind, 447 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,284 Cyril Hiltz, Andrew DeMont 448 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,286 and Leonard Kaizer 449 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:53,998 also followed them down into the shaft. 450 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:04,300 Of all the individuals that entered the shaft, 451 00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:06,427 only two were saved. 452 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:09,346 They all seemed to have been overcome 453 00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:12,474 by some gas in the shaft. 454 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:14,810 SHATNER: By the end of that tragic day, 455 00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:18,981 Oak Island's deadly curse had added the names of four men 456 00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,108 to its list of victims: 457 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:23,110 Robert Restall, 458 00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:24,653 his son Bobby, 459 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:26,113 Cyril Hiltz 460 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:27,823 and Carl Graeser. 461 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:33,203 And in a morbid twist on an already sad tale, 462 00:23:33,329 --> 00:23:36,415 a rumor was being spread 463 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:39,460 that not only was the Oak Island curse real 464 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:42,129 but that one more would have to die 465 00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:44,506 in pursuit of the treasure 466 00:23:44,632 --> 00:23:48,385 before the Oak Island mystery could be solved. 467 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:52,306 The idea of seven people dying seems to have come 468 00:23:52,348 --> 00:23:55,851 from a 1967 article in True magazine. 469 00:23:55,976 --> 00:23:58,979 It was attributing this to a local legend 470 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:01,273 that said seven men have to die 471 00:24:01,357 --> 00:24:03,984 before the treasure will be found. 472 00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:08,280 SHATNER: But is the notion of an Oak Island curse simply made‐up, 473 00:24:08,364 --> 00:24:11,742 the product of a pulp writer's fantasy? 474 00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,036 Or is it real? 475 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:17,164 There are many who insist that not only is it real 476 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:18,958 but that its origins 477 00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,294 stretch back long before the days of pirates, 478 00:24:22,336 --> 00:24:24,129 all the way back 479 00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:27,758 to the days of the Knights Templar. 480 00:24:32,346 --> 00:24:34,556 â™Ș â™Ș 481 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,437 I mean, this is an ideal situation, Rick, 482 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:41,855 because, obviously, it's low tide. 483 00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,650 ‐RICK: Mm‐hmm. ‐We got these rock pools. 484 00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:45,859 RICK: So, you're thinking between 485 00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:47,319 the beach and the old cofferdams. 486 00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:49,405 ‐This is a perfect spot? ‐Yeah. 487 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:50,990 So, let's see if we can find something. 488 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:52,032 SHATNER: While searching 489 00:24:52,116 --> 00:24:53,993 along a stretch of Oak Island's shoreline, 490 00:24:54,076 --> 00:24:57,830 Rick Lagina and metal detection expert Gary Drayton 491 00:24:57,913 --> 00:24:59,707 make a shocking discovery... 492 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:03,002 (beeping) 493 00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:04,795 That's worth digging, Rick. 494 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:09,383 SHATNER: ...one that would ultimately shed light 495 00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,885 on the Oak Island curse. 496 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:14,138 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! 497 00:25:14,263 --> 00:25:15,556 What? 498 00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:17,307 ‐I don't see anything. ‐I see something. 499 00:25:17,433 --> 00:25:19,852 (beeping) 500 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,274 Holy... 501 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:27,985 Holy schmoly, all right. 502 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,863 ‐RICK: It's a cross. ‐That's a cross. 503 00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:33,657 There's a square hole. 504 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:35,617 Yeah, right there. 505 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:37,202 It's heavy, too. 506 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:38,579 Oh, my gosh. I mean, 507 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:41,665 that is an old, old cross. 508 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:43,667 I didn't really know 509 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,420 what it was until I pick it up 510 00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,130 and I can see 511 00:25:48,213 --> 00:25:51,091 this is a religious artifact. 512 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,594 I could tell straightaway 513 00:25:53,677 --> 00:25:58,182 that this cross is probably hundreds of years old. 514 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,809 This isn't a modern design. 515 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:02,519 I got to be honest, when I first saw it, 516 00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,396 I'm thinking medieval. 517 00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:07,107 Sweet! 518 00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:08,650 Gary was extremely excited. 519 00:26:08,734 --> 00:26:11,278 More excited than anything he's ever found on the island. 520 00:26:11,361 --> 00:26:14,948 GARY: This is the type of thing I'd expect to find in Europe. 521 00:26:15,032 --> 00:26:20,621 I would say that is somewhere between 1200 and 1600. 522 00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:23,457 RICK: It's really that old? 523 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:24,583 Yeah, that is old. 524 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:26,627 That is really old. 525 00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:28,504 I've seen that shape before. 526 00:26:28,629 --> 00:26:30,422 I swear, that'll tell the tale how old it is. 527 00:26:30,506 --> 00:26:31,882 ‐That shape. ‐Yeah. 528 00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:34,343 Where do you think you've seen it before? 529 00:26:34,468 --> 00:26:36,470 You know, when I was in France, 530 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:39,181 I swear I saw a carving like that 531 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:42,392 in the Templar prison in Domme. 532 00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:45,145 â™Ș â™Ș 533 00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:47,648 SHATNER: Incredibly, it was while on a research trip to France 534 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:49,316 one month earlier 535 00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:52,694 that Rick Lagina was shown a virtually identical carving 536 00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:57,157 etched into the wall of Domme Prison, 537 00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:59,326 a 13th‐century fortress 538 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,371 where 70 members of the Knights Templar were imprisoned 539 00:27:02,496 --> 00:27:03,664 and tortured 540 00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:07,251 ‐prior to execution. ‐(distorted shouting) 541 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:10,462 But could the striking similarity between the cross 542 00:27:10,587 --> 00:27:12,923 found by Rick Lagina at Smith's Cove 543 00:27:13,006 --> 00:27:16,051 and the carving on the wall at Domme Prison suggest 544 00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,637 that some members of the Knights Templar actually made 545 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,098 their way across the Atlantic to North America 546 00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:25,227 centuries before Christopher Columbus' historic voyage 547 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:28,355 in 1492? 548 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,692 The Knights Templar were founded in the 12th century, 549 00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:34,695 and they were the world's first combination 550 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:37,656 of warrior and monk, a security force 551 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,575 of a sort that would assist pilgrims 552 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,578 on their journey to the Holy Land. 553 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,204 And one of the services they provided 554 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:47,249 was they would hold on to and‐and give safekeeping to any 555 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:49,585 of the relics that pilgrims would have gathered 556 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:51,170 on their journey. 557 00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:54,089 They were the guardians of a lot of the treasures 558 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,967 of various kings and popes and monarchs. 559 00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,344 And because of their amazing reputation, 560 00:27:59,469 --> 00:28:03,765 they became known as the world's first international bankers. 561 00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:06,977 YOUNG: The French crown 562 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:09,771 had borrowed a great deal of money from the organization, 563 00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:14,818 and so to get out of paying back the order, 564 00:28:14,902 --> 00:28:17,487 the king of France decides they are Satanists, 565 00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:21,200 and they're defiling the church. 566 00:28:21,325 --> 00:28:24,328 SANFORD HOLST: The king of France then leaned on the pope to back him up 567 00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:27,164 and press charges against the Knights Templar. 568 00:28:27,289 --> 00:28:30,167 And here, the pope was siding with the king of France, 569 00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:32,294 turning all of his people over to be imprisoned 570 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,923 and burned at the stake, and they felt horribly betrayed. 571 00:28:38,091 --> 00:28:42,804 SHATNER: On Friday 13, 1307, 572 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,474 Pope Clement V ordered the imprisonment 573 00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:46,975 of the Knights Templar, 574 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:51,772 including their grandmaster Jacques de Molay. 575 00:28:51,855 --> 00:28:54,191 Of the Templars who were able to evade capture, 576 00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,026 many fled to Scotland, 577 00:28:56,151 --> 00:28:59,780 and as far as some Templar scholars are concerned, 578 00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,615 successfully made their way across the Atlantic 579 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:03,116 to North America. 580 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,246 But if such an audacious theory is correct, 581 00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:09,289 is it also possible that the Templars brought with them 582 00:29:09,373 --> 00:29:12,000 many of their riches and religious artifacts 583 00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:15,045 that they rescued from the Holy Land? 584 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:19,383 The Knights Templar were formed during the first Crusades, 585 00:29:19,508 --> 00:29:23,387 after the Christian knights had come to the Holy Land 586 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:24,721 and captured Jerusalem. 587 00:29:26,181 --> 00:29:29,226 And it's believed that possibly they found the Holy Grail. 588 00:29:29,351 --> 00:29:31,853 They may have found the Ark of the Covenant. 589 00:29:33,563 --> 00:29:36,275 COPPENS: The Ark of the Covenant holds 590 00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:40,153 the covenant from God to man‐‐ and that is, physically, 591 00:29:40,237 --> 00:29:44,116 the two tablets representing the Ten Commandments. 592 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:49,246 If the Templars were carrying this extraordinary treasure 593 00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,164 to a place where they wanted to be safe 594 00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:55,419 and create a New Jerusalem, Oak Island makes sense. 595 00:29:56,586 --> 00:29:58,630 SHATNER: The Ark of the Covenant. 596 00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:02,509 Is it possible that this most sacred of all religious objects 597 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,720 was brought to Oak Island and buried, 598 00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:07,306 along with other Templar treasures, 599 00:30:07,389 --> 00:30:10,684 in a booby‐trapped vault deep beneath the ground? 600 00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:14,354 It may sound like a far‐fetched notion, 601 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:18,775 but according to both Oak Island and Knights Templar researchers, 602 00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:21,862 the best proof of this theory may be something 603 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:25,657 that both the island and the Templars have in common: 604 00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:29,661 a deadly curse. 605 00:30:29,745 --> 00:30:33,540 COPPENS: When Jacques de Molay, was brought to the stake, 606 00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:36,626 he gave a very powerful and impassioned speech 607 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:40,255 about his innocence and the innocence of his entire order. 608 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:42,883 It was a very dramatic speech that to this day 609 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:46,803 is talked about in France and elsewhere. 610 00:30:46,928 --> 00:30:50,599 As Jacques de Molay stood at the funeral pyre 611 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,642 waiting for the flames to consume him, 612 00:30:52,768 --> 00:30:56,521 he cursed the king and he cursed the pope. 613 00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:59,775 And he said that both of them would be called before God 614 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,152 before the end of a year and a day. 615 00:31:02,277 --> 00:31:08,283 Within a year, the pope dies of a prolonged illness. 616 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:11,828 Within a year, the king dies of a stroke 617 00:31:11,912 --> 00:31:13,830 on his way to go hunting. 618 00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:15,916 But it doesn't end there. 619 00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:19,294 Over the course of the next 14 years, 620 00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:23,799 the king of France's line, his three sons and his grandson, 621 00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:27,344 all die in somewhat mysterious circumstances. 622 00:31:27,469 --> 00:31:30,889 YOUNG: There is the kind of curse that carries over, 623 00:31:31,014 --> 00:31:33,767 that has long‐lasting implications. 624 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:37,145 When de Molay was killed by the French crown, 625 00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:40,232 there was a curse‐‐ perhaps on France, perhaps on the materials 626 00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:43,568 or the wealth of the Templars‐‐ that goes down through time. 627 00:31:43,652 --> 00:31:47,906 And anybody who recovers this or has some interest 628 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,951 might be hurt by them. 629 00:31:51,034 --> 00:31:54,329 Is it possible that the curse somehow carried over 630 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:56,456 and is protecting whatever is buried 631 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:59,251 in the Money Pit on Oak Island, which some researchers 632 00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:01,586 have speculated is actually the resting place 633 00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,547 of the Ark of the Covenant? 634 00:32:07,634 --> 00:32:10,804 Could the fabled riches of the Knights Templar 635 00:32:10,887 --> 00:32:12,472 really lie buried 636 00:32:12,556 --> 00:32:16,726 in an elaborately constructed treasure vault on Oak Island? 637 00:32:16,852 --> 00:32:18,812 There are many who believe the answer 638 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:20,897 is a profound yes 639 00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:23,483 and that these riches are still being protected 640 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:27,237 by Jacques de Molay's deadly curse, 641 00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:30,657 one that was designed to keep the treasure hidden 642 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,160 at all costs. 643 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,627 SHATNER: Shortly after performing the ancient practice 644 00:32:42,711 --> 00:32:45,755 known as dowsing, which entails using metal rods 645 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,675 to detect underground voids, 646 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,136 treasure hunter Dan Henskee 647 00:32:51,261 --> 00:32:53,555 is suddenly overcome with a strange 648 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,141 and disturbing sensation. 649 00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:59,686 I don't actually know if what's happened to me 650 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:02,147 on Oak Island was real or imaginary. 651 00:33:02,272 --> 00:33:05,150 It was quite strange. 652 00:33:07,527 --> 00:33:10,739 It involved what appeared to be possession 653 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,575 by a spirit of someone long dead. 654 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:17,496 I thought that the spirit of a dead priest 655 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:18,955 had entered my body 656 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,916 and that the priest had his throat cut. 657 00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:22,501 (man screams) 658 00:33:22,626 --> 00:33:26,296 ‐(heart beating) ‐I do remember falling down, 659 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:29,424 feeling that I was experiencing the death 660 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:31,676 of this person. 661 00:33:31,801 --> 00:33:35,305 SHATNER: After Dan was able to regain control of himself, 662 00:33:35,388 --> 00:33:38,141 he was left with a daunting question: 663 00:33:38,266 --> 00:33:40,977 Was his experience just a trick of his mind? 664 00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,481 Or could it have really happened? 665 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:46,483 Now, what makes this really interesting 666 00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,985 is the fact that he was able to determine 667 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:50,737 that the entity possessing him 668 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:53,698 was that of an allegedly murdered priest. 669 00:33:53,823 --> 00:33:55,659 (man screams) 670 00:33:55,742 --> 00:33:57,160 Now, you might be wondering, 671 00:33:57,244 --> 00:34:00,205 how did he come by this information? 672 00:34:00,330 --> 00:34:01,665 It's entirely possible 673 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:04,459 that whatever had been interacting with him 674 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:07,754 literally just told him that this is who I am 675 00:34:07,837 --> 00:34:09,756 and this is what happened to me. 676 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,509 SHATNER: While many think 677 00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:14,803 that Dan's story is too bizarre to believe, 678 00:34:14,886 --> 00:34:17,764 it's not an isolated event. 679 00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:19,975 Throughout Oak Island's history, 680 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:23,395 tales of frightening, mystical phenomena 681 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,438 are as numerous as the theories 682 00:34:25,522 --> 00:34:28,191 concerning the legendary treasure. 683 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:31,861 One of the more interesting extreme reports 684 00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:33,655 comes from a man named Fred Nolan. 685 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:36,324 He was convinced 686 00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:38,827 that the ravens on the island were possessed 687 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:40,787 by the souls of former slaves 688 00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:44,332 who had helped in digging the pits and the flood tunnels. 689 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,459 (squawks) 690 00:34:47,294 --> 00:34:48,837 There have been all kinds of stories 691 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,549 about a dog with fiery eyes. 692 00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:53,967 (growling) 693 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:56,678 People have told me 694 00:34:56,803 --> 00:35:00,432 stories of their father or their grandfather 695 00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:04,060 wandering across the island and seeing this dog. 696 00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,856 Red glowing eyes have also been reported, 697 00:35:07,981 --> 00:35:10,317 uh, in another story. 698 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,320 After the Restall Tragedy, 699 00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:15,905 one of the people that worked for them, Jim Kaizer... 700 00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:18,325 He often worked as a night watchman. 701 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:21,661 One night, he was staying in the Restalls' cabin, 702 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:24,789 and he woke up to a feeling 703 00:35:24,873 --> 00:35:26,666 of a great weight on his chest. 704 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,878 He had these two red eyes staring at him in the dark, 705 00:35:30,003 --> 00:35:32,130 and he heard a voice tell him to leave the island 706 00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:34,507 ‐and never come back. ‐(indistinct whispering) 707 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:37,093 And in the morning, when he woke up, 708 00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:39,137 he had bruises all over him. 709 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,931 Jimmy Kaizer was a real stand‐up guy, 710 00:35:42,015 --> 00:35:43,808 an unshakeable sort, 711 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,061 and this particular event, I think, 712 00:35:46,186 --> 00:35:49,105 from all accounts, really affected him 713 00:35:49,189 --> 00:35:51,441 for the rest of his life. 714 00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:54,944 SHATNER: Although most would agree 715 00:35:55,028 --> 00:35:57,739 that Oak Island is an unusual place, 716 00:35:57,864 --> 00:36:01,034 could any physical evidence exist to support the notion 717 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,079 that there really is a supernatural presence 718 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:05,664 on the island? 719 00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:07,957 (squawks) 720 00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:09,626 For many, the evidence lies 721 00:36:09,751 --> 00:36:12,796 in the unusual electrical activity 722 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:14,964 that regularly happens there. 723 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,424 One of the first things 724 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:19,135 is people here will have brand‐new cell phones, 725 00:36:19,219 --> 00:36:21,429 and the batteries will constantly drain out. 726 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:25,141 There is a Bermuda Triangle for Oak Island 727 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:27,936 that occurs between Apple Island and Frog Island 728 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,813 coming up to Oak Island. 729 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,773 (engine whirring) 730 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:34,859 Everything will go dead, you will lose power in your boat. 731 00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:38,697 It's happened to several people in this particular spot. 732 00:36:38,822 --> 00:36:41,825 There's no explanation for it or the reasons why. 733 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,994 SHATNER: But are strange electrical anomalies 734 00:36:45,078 --> 00:36:46,955 really evidence of a curse? 735 00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:49,582 Isn't it more likely that the bizarre occurrences 736 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:54,629 experienced on the island have a perfectly rational explanation? 737 00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:56,965 Perhaps. 738 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:59,759 But as far as two of the islands' owners are concerned, 739 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:03,430 the notion that dark forces might be at work 740 00:37:03,513 --> 00:37:06,683 is not so easy to dismiss. 741 00:37:06,808 --> 00:37:10,228 You know, I'm a skeptic about paranormal stuff, 742 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:12,564 (laughs): but I spent, but I spent one night‐‐ 743 00:37:12,647 --> 00:37:14,733 I said, "I'm gonna go check this out myself." 744 00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:18,987 So we drive out, it's dark as can be, 745 00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:22,240 and it gets, um, sort of, like, misty. 746 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:25,535 A lot of fog and stuff, you know. 747 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:28,830 It's a spooky‐‐ It is a spooky place at night. 748 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,583 Rick walked off, and I'm kind of sitting there 749 00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:32,917 thinking, "Well, this is silly." 750 00:37:33,001 --> 00:37:34,669 And I got out of the car, and I'm kind of leaning 751 00:37:34,794 --> 00:37:36,963 against the car‐‐ it's pitch black‐‐ and all of a sudden, 752 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:40,425 I heard the nastiest scream you've ever heard in your life. 753 00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:42,719 I mean, a bloodcurdling scream. 754 00:37:43,845 --> 00:37:46,723 (laughs): Scared the bejibbers out of me. 755 00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:48,183 I jumped back in the car and I took off. 756 00:37:48,308 --> 00:37:50,727 And‐and I almost ran him over. 757 00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:56,316 So, uh, intellectually, I don't believe that sort of thing, 758 00:37:56,441 --> 00:38:00,236 but you know, emotionally, it seems to happen. 759 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:01,696 And there have been plenty of instances 760 00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:04,657 where that exact thing has done‐‐ has happened. 761 00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:07,452 And there's no logic to why they happen. 762 00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:10,830 That's what's... strange. 763 00:38:18,046 --> 00:38:20,048 â™Ș â™Ș 764 00:38:21,549 --> 00:38:25,678 SHATNER: Is there really an Oak Island curse? 765 00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:28,848 There are many who believe the answer's yes, 766 00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:31,976 but they'll also tell you that it isn't a curse 767 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:36,773 that involves dark forces or threats of death. 768 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:42,487 They believe it's the one that takes root in the mind 769 00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:45,824 of every would‐be treasure hunter. 770 00:38:52,038 --> 00:38:54,707 There are many psychological processes that could explain 771 00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:58,628 why a person actually spends years searching for something, 772 00:38:58,753 --> 00:39:01,798 doesn't find it and keeps doing it for even more years. 773 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,677 So, one explanation is this sunken cost fallacy, 774 00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:08,054 and the idea there is that if you think 775 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:11,099 you've already invested a lot in finding something 776 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:13,059 or pursuing something, 777 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:17,772 then you don't want that investment to go to waste, 778 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:19,899 so you're willing to put in more investment 779 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:22,652 into the pursuit of the thing that you still didn't find. 780 00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:25,738 And additionally, they're often very worried 781 00:39:25,822 --> 00:39:27,699 that if they leave this treasure hunt site, 782 00:39:27,824 --> 00:39:30,660 someone else might come and swoop in right after them 783 00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:32,745 and benefit from all of the work 784 00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:35,915 they have been doing all this time and get the big rewards. 785 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,587 I don't know what it is about the island 786 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,131 that so captivates people. 787 00:39:43,256 --> 00:39:47,635 But I do know that it really does. 788 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,805 It really does, and it goes beyond reason. 789 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,310 RICK: I can see the fascination. 790 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:58,271 If the accident hadn't happened when it did, 791 00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:00,690 and I had come to the age of 16 or so, 792 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:04,152 I can see myself taking shovel in hand 793 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:09,282 and becoming so upset with the cursedness of this mystery 794 00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:11,910 and going after the answer myself. 795 00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:16,664 CANO: Perhaps the legend of a curse, 796 00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:20,543 the reason for it existing is to hide something. 797 00:40:20,668 --> 00:40:23,087 And the fact that people are searching, 798 00:40:23,171 --> 00:40:26,132 people are actively saying, "I'm gonna go against this 799 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,635 and I'm gonna look for it anyway," 800 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,972 that inherently gives the curse a reason for being. 801 00:40:33,056 --> 00:40:36,100 There is a definite presence on Oak Island, 802 00:40:36,184 --> 00:40:39,687 and I don't know if this feeds into the curse, 803 00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,814 or if this is something completely different. 804 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:45,777 Or manifested because of the general knowledge 805 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:49,072 that there may be a curse on the island. 806 00:40:51,407 --> 00:40:52,992 I think the island is cursed or there at least 807 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:56,079 is some negative energy around the multiple layers of history. 808 00:40:56,204 --> 00:40:59,666 I think the curse shows up in many forms, 809 00:40:59,749 --> 00:41:03,628 whether it's greed, obsession or financial difficulty. 810 00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:08,633 And I think something is still unresolved and unsettled. 811 00:41:08,758 --> 00:41:12,303 The curse is the way Oak Island swallows people's lives. 812 00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:14,722 It consumes their fortunes, 813 00:41:14,847 --> 00:41:18,142 and in many cases, destroys their sanity. 814 00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:21,145 The curse of Oak Island is that once you get in, 815 00:41:21,229 --> 00:41:23,106 it's really hard to get out. 816 00:41:26,192 --> 00:41:29,445 Brothers Rick and Marty Lagina and the other members 817 00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:31,823 of the Oak Island team are risking 818 00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:34,158 an incredible amount of time and money 819 00:41:34,242 --> 00:41:37,662 looking for a fabled treasure on Oak Island. 820 00:41:37,787 --> 00:41:42,208 But are they also risking their lives? 821 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,129 See, one thing is certain: so far, six men have died 822 00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:47,630 searching for the answer. 823 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:52,093 And according to legend, one more will have to die 824 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:54,637 before what lies buried there can be found 825 00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:59,475 and the Oak Island mystery will no longer be among 826 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:02,645 The UnXplained. 65453

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