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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:06,340 WILLIAM SHATNER: Deadly forests. 2 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,342 Haunted houses. 3 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:10,594 (children laughing) 4 00:00:10,594 --> 00:00:13,055 Mountains where visitors 5 00:00:13,055 --> 00:00:15,599 never return alive. 6 00:00:17,601 --> 00:00:22,272 Are there such things as evil places? 7 00:00:22,272 --> 00:00:26,693 Places that are really born bad? 8 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,362 There are those who believe 9 00:00:28,362 --> 00:00:32,115 that not only is such an incredible notion possible, 10 00:00:32,115 --> 00:00:36,078 but that there are literally thousands of these places 11 00:00:36,078 --> 00:00:38,830 all around us. 12 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:41,542 But how could a seemingly harmless destination 13 00:00:41,542 --> 00:00:44,294 like an amusement park 14 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:48,173 really be thought of as cursed? 15 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:50,384 (chuckling): Well... 16 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:53,220 that is what we'll try and find out. 17 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:55,222 â™Ș â™Ș 18 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:10,070 SHATNER: In central Japan, 19 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,406 60 miles southwest of Tokyo, 20 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:15,409 lies the Aokigahara forest. 21 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:18,078 Located at the base of Mount Fuji, 22 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:21,748 it is considered by the Japanese to be sacred. 23 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:24,293 Although, in recent years, many believe 24 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:27,671 that these woods have become not a holy place, 25 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:29,256 but a place of evil. 26 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:32,759 Each year, shockingly high numbers 27 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:36,847 of people come here to end their own lives. 28 00:01:36,847 --> 00:01:39,349 So many, in fact, that the place has become known 29 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:41,893 as the Suicide Forest. 30 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,980 If you ever walk through any other woods or forests, 31 00:01:44,980 --> 00:01:47,232 you always hear the birds, and you hear rustling, 32 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:49,443 and you hear all sorts of things, 33 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,111 but not in Suicide Forest. 34 00:01:51,111 --> 00:01:52,612 In Suicide Forest, 35 00:01:52,612 --> 00:01:55,615 it's just completely and absolutely silent. 36 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:57,617 (silence) 37 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:03,040 I didn't see a living thing other than those plants, 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,792 and I certainly didn't hear anything. 39 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:09,129 So, it's the silence that really hits you at first. 40 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:11,214 It definitely had a different feel to it, 41 00:02:11,214 --> 00:02:13,467 and that kind of raises the anxiety. 42 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:16,637 A lot of locals will tell you 43 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:18,805 that as they grew up near the forest, 44 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:20,557 they were told never to go there. 45 00:02:20,557 --> 00:02:22,184 It's a dark, scary place. 46 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:23,685 It's not a place for you. 47 00:02:23,685 --> 00:02:24,978 Stay away from it. 48 00:02:27,064 --> 00:02:29,191 DOMINIC STEAVU: Aokigahara literally translates 49 00:02:29,191 --> 00:02:31,318 as "the field of green trees." 50 00:02:31,318 --> 00:02:33,362 This forest is also known as the Jukai, 51 00:02:33,362 --> 00:02:34,988 "the sea of trees." 52 00:02:34,988 --> 00:02:38,659 Many people go and commit suicide, 53 00:02:38,659 --> 00:02:43,372 typically by hanging, or also by prescription drug overdose. 54 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:46,541 Officials have stopped publicizing the numbers 55 00:02:46,541 --> 00:02:49,211 so as to not encourage more people to go there, 56 00:02:49,211 --> 00:02:52,422 but it really has become a magnet for suicides. 57 00:02:58,637 --> 00:03:01,431 SHATNER: At the entrance to the park, signs are posted 58 00:03:01,431 --> 00:03:04,434 advising those who enter the forest with suicidal thoughts 59 00:03:04,434 --> 00:03:07,229 to stop and turn back. 60 00:03:07,229 --> 00:03:09,898 It is a warning meant to prevent people 61 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:14,361 from being swallowed up by the darkness of this place, 62 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:19,282 a darkness from which there is no return. 63 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:21,993 These signs tell people, 64 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:23,495 please don't commit suicide. 65 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:25,122 Think of your parents. Think of your family. 66 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:26,873 They give you information on who to call 67 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:28,417 if you need some help. 68 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:32,712 It's very clear that this is a concern of theirs. 69 00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:34,589 They know it's a problem, 70 00:03:34,589 --> 00:03:39,136 and they ask you, "Please don't do this." 71 00:03:39,136 --> 00:03:41,221 And you'll see those signs everywhere, 72 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,808 which remind you of how prevalent the problem is. 73 00:03:46,476 --> 00:03:49,980 STEAVU: Aokigahara is also a non‐camping forest. 74 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:52,232 So camping is strictly forbidden, 75 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:54,734 yet people who contemplate suicide 76 00:03:54,734 --> 00:03:57,821 sometimes bring their tents. 77 00:03:57,821 --> 00:04:01,283 We do have lots of these traces of the departed 78 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:04,578 that remain in the forest, from personal effects 79 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:07,247 to thread marking the paths. 80 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,916 ONO: Part of the mystique of Suicide Forest is 81 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,751 quite often people who want to commit suicide 82 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:14,337 will bring these ribbons because they haven't figured out 83 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:16,631 whether they really want to do it or not. 84 00:04:16,631 --> 00:04:19,176 So they'll tie the ribbon, and if they change their mind, 85 00:04:19,176 --> 00:04:20,927 they could find their way out. 86 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:23,972 But if they don't change their mind, 87 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:26,433 at the end of that ribbon, you may find a body. 88 00:04:28,477 --> 00:04:30,479 SHATNER: The Suicide Forest 89 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:32,147 has one of the highest suicide rates 90 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:33,857 of anywhere in the world. 91 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:37,152 But unlike other such places, 92 00:04:37,152 --> 00:04:39,780 like the Golden Gate Bridge 93 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:41,823 or Niagara Falls, 94 00:04:41,823 --> 00:04:44,117 where people jump to their deaths, 95 00:04:44,117 --> 00:04:46,328 here they come to experience 96 00:04:46,328 --> 00:04:50,665 a different and arguably more disturbing 97 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:53,043 method of release. 98 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:57,297 In Japanese belief, any person who dies 99 00:04:57,297 --> 00:05:01,384 has to receive a proper, um, ritual treatment 100 00:05:01,384 --> 00:05:05,889 in order to transition to the world of the dead. 101 00:05:07,349 --> 00:05:10,352 If they don't receive these very specific‐‐ 102 00:05:10,352 --> 00:05:12,145 generally Buddhist‐‐ rites, 103 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:16,399 there's a belief that the soul of the deceased person 104 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:20,403 will linger in the physical plane of existence. 105 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:25,408 If someone commits suicide in the spot, it's believed 106 00:05:25,408 --> 00:05:29,371 that the yurei, the ghost, will be hanging around that spot 107 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:32,249 where they committed suicide‐‐ they're tied to it there. 108 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:35,669 So it becomes a potential danger spot 109 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:38,171 if other people are just walking through it. 110 00:05:39,256 --> 00:05:41,842 They can get lured by the yurei, 111 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:44,010 who's gonna influence them somehow 112 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:45,846 to commit suicide themselves. 113 00:05:49,474 --> 00:05:51,977 Aokigahara becoming a suicide spot 114 00:05:51,977 --> 00:05:53,603 is a relatively recent phenomenon 115 00:05:53,603 --> 00:05:56,106 that started in the 1960s. 116 00:05:56,106 --> 00:05:59,568 It can be traced back to a novel called The Tower of Waves, 117 00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:02,404 in which two of the main protagonists 118 00:06:02,404 --> 00:06:04,865 could not live out their love, 119 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:06,908 and then decided to commit suicide 120 00:06:06,908 --> 00:06:08,869 together in this forest. 121 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,872 This is one of the reasons why the forest became 122 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:13,999 a very famous suicide spot. 123 00:06:16,877 --> 00:06:19,379 DAVID WHITEHEAD: It's rather strange that they say 124 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:23,717 around a hundred bodies a year are found in that place. 125 00:06:23,717 --> 00:06:25,468 And it begs the question, is there something 126 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:27,137 about the place itself 127 00:06:27,137 --> 00:06:29,973 that attracts people to go there to commit suicide? 128 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:32,684 GEORGE NOORY: It probably started off 129 00:06:32,684 --> 00:06:34,436 as just a dense forest, 130 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:38,273 but as more and more people killed themselves in this place, 131 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:40,901 I think the evil permeates all over the place, 132 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:44,070 and it's probably affecting people who go in there. 133 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:47,574 SHATNER: Evil... 134 00:06:47,574 --> 00:06:49,868 permeating the atmosphere? 135 00:06:49,868 --> 00:06:52,329 Could such an extraordinary 136 00:06:52,329 --> 00:06:56,833 and frightening notion be true? 137 00:06:56,833 --> 00:06:59,044 I think everybody has gone to a certain spot 138 00:06:59,044 --> 00:07:01,046 and they feel uncomfortable with it. 139 00:07:01,046 --> 00:07:04,507 They just don't know exactly why, 140 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:06,760 but they just don't feel right. 141 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,429 They feel like, "Something's wrong here." 142 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:11,473 "This doesn't feel good to me." 143 00:07:11,473 --> 00:07:13,600 "It's kind of evil." 144 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,435 There are certain regions 145 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:18,355 that have had bad things happen to it. 146 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:21,441 And you can feel it. 147 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:23,443 We have to realize that the human body 148 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:26,613 is one of the most ultimate pieces of scientific equipment. 149 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:29,699 You have so many different types of sensors on your body. 150 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:32,619 You can see, smell, hear, taste, feel. 151 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:35,622 And all that information that you're receiving 152 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:39,834 from your environment causes you to feel the way you do 153 00:07:39,834 --> 00:07:41,836 at any given second. 154 00:07:41,836 --> 00:07:44,714 So, if your body is not feeling right 155 00:07:44,714 --> 00:07:47,342 and your brain is telling you something's not right here, 156 00:07:47,342 --> 00:07:51,388 it is possible that it's an evil location, right? 157 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:55,809 SHATNER: In recent years, 158 00:07:55,809 --> 00:07:58,812 scientists studying the morbid phenomenon 159 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:02,399 of Japan's so‐called Suicide Forest have suggested 160 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:05,360 that the answer to the mystery might be 161 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,197 not a paranormal one, but geological. 162 00:08:09,197 --> 00:08:11,866 One of the really interesting things about Suicide Forest 163 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,994 is it didn't exist, uh, until 164 00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:18,748 the last massive eruption of Mount Fuji, 165 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:20,709 which was more than a thousand years ago, 166 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:24,462 and that's what laid out this enormous bed of lava 167 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:27,048 that eventually hardened. 168 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:30,510 There are chambers within the ground. 169 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:34,055 And in these chambers is where people will go into 170 00:08:34,055 --> 00:08:35,765 and commit suicide. 171 00:08:35,765 --> 00:08:37,851 Some of them will just take pills and lie down, 172 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:39,853 and eventually, you'll find a body 173 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,855 inside one of these chambers. 174 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:45,567 There's a possibility that the volcanic region‐‐ 175 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:48,194 the rocks, the basalt‐‐ might have some sort 176 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,614 of piezoelectric‐type material within them 177 00:08:51,614 --> 00:08:54,951 that could generate electric and magnetic fields. 178 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:57,912 And it's also known that electromagnetic fields 179 00:08:57,912 --> 00:09:00,623 do impact the brain activity. 180 00:09:00,623 --> 00:09:02,834 I would think, from the evidence, 181 00:09:02,834 --> 00:09:04,377 that this geomagnetic field 182 00:09:04,377 --> 00:09:08,339 is having some impact on mass depression. 183 00:09:08,339 --> 00:09:10,258 The connection between magnetic anomalies 184 00:09:10,258 --> 00:09:12,719 and chemical reactions in the brain could lead 185 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:15,472 to a type of depression that would enhance suicide. 186 00:09:16,723 --> 00:09:19,017 You can imagine a person who is suicidal 187 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:20,602 or thinking about suicide, 188 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:23,146 but is fundamentally uncomfortable with the idea, 189 00:09:23,146 --> 00:09:25,440 moving into one of these areas. 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,568 And this interaction makes them just comfortable enough 191 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:31,321 that now they will carry through on the suicide. 192 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:37,660 SHATNER: Could hundreds of ritual suicides 193 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:42,415 really be the result of magnetic anomalies in the brain 194 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:47,212 caused by the unique properties of volcanic rock? 195 00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:50,757 Or, as many Japanese themselves believe, 196 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:55,595 could the cause be something even more incredible? 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,016 There's an old saying that says 198 00:10:00,016 --> 00:10:02,477 what we do in life echoes in eternity. 199 00:10:02,477 --> 00:10:05,146 And if we have a forest where hundreds of people 200 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:07,607 have gone to that forest to commit suicide 201 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,234 for over 60 years, 202 00:10:09,234 --> 00:10:12,779 could the dark energy of all of the departed souls 203 00:10:12,779 --> 00:10:14,447 be lurking there? 204 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:16,282 Could that energy 205 00:10:16,282 --> 00:10:20,453 be what is attracting people to come to the forest? 206 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,124 SHATNER: Tragic souls of the departed 207 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:27,836 luring others in... to join them. 208 00:10:27,836 --> 00:10:30,296 A far‐fetched notion, perhaps. 209 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:33,216 But no more bizarre than what has been happening 210 00:10:33,216 --> 00:10:37,428 at the Aokigahara forest for the past six decades. 211 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:40,223 And no less disturbing 212 00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:42,475 than what happened to a group of hikers 213 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:46,187 on a mountaintop nearly 4,000 miles away. 214 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:49,149 A mountain that the locals have named... 215 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:51,568 "Don't Go There." 216 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:01,077 SHATNER: January 1959. 217 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:06,207 Nine mountaineers from the Ural Polytechnic Institute 218 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:10,628 embark on a perilous journey through Russia's Ural Mountains. 219 00:11:10,628 --> 00:11:12,589 Their destination: 220 00:11:12,589 --> 00:11:16,217 a remote mountain peak known as Otorten, 221 00:11:16,217 --> 00:11:19,012 which in the local Mansi language means: 222 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,346 "Don't Go There." 223 00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:27,020 STONEHILL: They went out on this very strenuous trek, or mission, 224 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:29,480 to show that the mountain could be conquered. 225 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,275 As far as we know, they were all experienced. 226 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:34,819 Igor Dyatlov, who was in charge of the group, 227 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:37,030 had about seven missions to his name. 228 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:38,531 Similar missions. 229 00:11:38,531 --> 00:11:41,201 They were supposed just to study the mountain, 230 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:44,704 to show that they can withstand the incredible cold 231 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:46,873 in this desolate place, and come back. 232 00:11:50,543 --> 00:11:52,670 SHATNER: A few days into their trek, 233 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:55,757 the hikers move through a mountain pass with high winds 234 00:11:55,757 --> 00:11:57,884 and poor visibility, 235 00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:01,387 causing them to veer miles off course. 236 00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:04,432 Realizing their mistake, and faced with the bitter cold 237 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:07,977 of the coming night, they choose to stop and camp 238 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:10,396 on a slope called Kholat Syakhl, 239 00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:14,901 which in Mansi translates to "The Mountain of the Dead." 240 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:17,070 (wind whistling) 241 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,280 STONEHILL: It's a really windy area. 242 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,532 When I say "windy," the winds are horrible. 243 00:12:21,532 --> 00:12:24,827 And they should not have put the tent on that slope. 244 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:26,496 They could have done it easily, 245 00:12:26,496 --> 00:12:28,998 what, 100 meters away, in the forest. 246 00:12:28,998 --> 00:12:31,459 They went against all the knowledge 247 00:12:31,459 --> 00:12:33,253 that experienced trackers should have. 248 00:12:33,253 --> 00:12:35,922 So, why would they put it out there? 249 00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:39,133 What drove them? Nobody knows for sure. 250 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:40,635 (wind whistling) 251 00:12:40,635 --> 00:12:42,428 SHATNER: Weeks later, when it becomes clear 252 00:12:42,428 --> 00:12:44,764 that the group has failed to return from its expedition, 253 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:49,102 a military search and rescue operation is launched. 254 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:52,230 They find the campsite abandoned 255 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:55,441 and a tent that has been torn to pieces. 256 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:58,194 Curiously, the investigators determined that the tent 257 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:00,488 was cut and ripped open from the inside, 258 00:13:00,488 --> 00:13:04,659 and the hikers appear to have fled in socks, or barefoot. 259 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:08,538 We're dealing with a group of experienced hikers 260 00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:10,832 who escaped their tent in the middle of the night 261 00:13:10,832 --> 00:13:12,250 without any reason, 262 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:14,294 unless something happened to their minds. 263 00:13:15,545 --> 00:13:16,838 SHATNER: In search of the hikers, 264 00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:18,840 the investigators move to the edge 265 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,633 of a nearby forest. 266 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:22,510 What they eventually find 267 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:26,806 has defied explanation for more than 50 years. 268 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:28,808 STONEHILL: Four of them were discovered initially, 269 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:30,685 and five of them were found later. 270 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:32,979 And they all died differently. 271 00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:36,691 Some of the bodies died from exposure, and were intact. 272 00:13:36,691 --> 00:13:40,403 Some of them were dressed completely. 273 00:13:40,403 --> 00:13:43,322 Most of them were naked, so to say. 274 00:13:43,322 --> 00:13:45,992 Others had horrible wounds on them. 275 00:13:45,992 --> 00:13:48,494 Their bones were crushed inside their bodies. 276 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:51,664 Others, their skull was crushed. 277 00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:56,252 One woman lost her tongue and parts of her face. 278 00:13:56,252 --> 00:13:58,254 Others were burned, 279 00:13:58,254 --> 00:14:00,173 like somebody put their feet in the fire 280 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:01,382 or they put it themselves. 281 00:14:01,382 --> 00:14:03,593 (alarmed shouting) 282 00:14:03,593 --> 00:14:07,764 They escaped like some force, something scared them. 283 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,853 SHATNER: The official causes of death for the hikers 284 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,481 claimed that six had died from hypothermia, 285 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:19,067 and the other three from fatal injuries 286 00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:23,488 caused by an unknown compelling force. 287 00:14:23,488 --> 00:14:26,282 But the inquiry was forced to an abrupt end 288 00:14:26,282 --> 00:14:27,784 by the Soviet government, 289 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:31,079 and the chief investigator refused to sign off 290 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:32,872 on the final report. 291 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:35,625 STONEHILL: There were two investigators, initially, 292 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:38,377 and they were told to shut up and close the case 293 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:41,464 with the determination that the cause of death 294 00:14:41,464 --> 00:14:45,885 was an invisible force of nature that killed them. 295 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,387 NOORY: In some cases, the fact that some of them died 296 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:51,390 from the bitter cold, okay, that makes sense. 297 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:53,392 They're in a region that's freezing. 298 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:55,103 But what about the other people? 299 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:57,814 Fractured skulls, crushed lungs. 300 00:14:57,814 --> 00:14:59,899 There's something weird here. 301 00:15:02,110 --> 00:15:04,946 SHATNER: What was the "compelling force" 302 00:15:04,946 --> 00:15:08,533 that inflicted such brutal and grotesque harm 303 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:10,368 on these victims? 304 00:15:10,368 --> 00:15:13,704 While some have speculated that it could have been an avalanche 305 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:16,374 or even an attack by Mansi tribes, 306 00:15:16,374 --> 00:15:20,086 there was virtually no evidence to support these claims. 307 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:24,715 Others point to local legends of some kind of monster. 308 00:15:24,715 --> 00:15:27,593 A creature capable of tearing people apart 309 00:15:27,593 --> 00:15:30,096 with its voice. 310 00:15:30,096 --> 00:15:32,765 There are descriptions of Mansi warning people 311 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:36,561 not to go to this mountain, not to go to this area, 312 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:40,523 because the sounds that come from there can kill you. 313 00:15:40,523 --> 00:15:43,609 The entity that lives in that mountain 314 00:15:43,609 --> 00:15:46,612 emits horrible shrieking sounds... 315 00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:49,282 (shrieking) 316 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:52,201 ...that can destroy human beings. 317 00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:53,744 (shrieking) 318 00:15:56,372 --> 00:15:59,792 SHATNER: Recently, a new theory has surfaced. 319 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:02,253 One that suggests this mountain pass 320 00:16:02,253 --> 00:16:05,923 may be just as deadly as the Mansi name for it implies. 321 00:16:05,923 --> 00:16:09,260 Not because of some supernatural monster... 322 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,928 (wind whistling) 323 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:13,931 ...but for a surprisingly scientific reason. 324 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,520 So, this is a very windy pass in the Ural Mountains. 325 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,689 Uh, in 2014, there was some study that was done 326 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:23,900 that showed that the wind kind of whipping through 327 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,568 because of the topography 328 00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:28,487 caused low‐frequency sound‐‐ kind of a hum. 329 00:16:31,073 --> 00:16:34,368 And low‐frequency sound can cause the eyeball to vibrate. 330 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:35,870 It can cause people to see shadows 331 00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:37,330 out of the corner of their eyes. 332 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:38,873 Especially if you're in an environment 333 00:16:38,873 --> 00:16:43,127 that is desolate, which is what that was to begin with. 334 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,633 DENNIN: The dimensions and the physics of the actual pass 335 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,718 are likely to lead to very low frequencies, 336 00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:52,470 which is exactly what infrasound is. 337 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:55,097 Infrasound is just referring to any sound 338 00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:56,849 that's below our normal hearing. 339 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:59,769 But sound itself is just pressure waves 340 00:16:59,769 --> 00:17:01,270 and vibration of the air. 341 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:05,191 So your body is still detecting it, 342 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:07,276 your ears are still reacting to it, 343 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:09,654 your eardrums are moving, and that's still generating 344 00:17:09,654 --> 00:17:11,530 electrical signals in your brain. 345 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,574 So there's an impact of the infrasound 346 00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:16,369 that we don't fully understand yet. 347 00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:19,830 TAYLOR: Being exposed to this sound, 348 00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,415 it's fatiguing your body. 349 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:23,960 Any type of fatigue that's long‐term 350 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,712 can cause significant psychosis. 351 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,090 In fact, there were several cases 352 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:32,677 on the Mir space station where the Russian cosmonauts 353 00:17:32,677 --> 00:17:35,596 were exposed to various vibrations, 354 00:17:35,596 --> 00:17:38,307 and it caused them to actually have psychosis. 355 00:17:38,307 --> 00:17:41,686 I have a friend who worked on consoles for Mir, 356 00:17:41,686 --> 00:17:44,063 and he said that once, one of the cosmonauts 357 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:46,524 actually pulled a knife on one of the other cosmonauts 358 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:48,609 because of this type of exposure. 359 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:51,195 STONEHILL: It's not like, uh, a rock 360 00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:52,863 falling on somebody's head. 361 00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:54,448 It's happening inside their minds. 362 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:57,285 And infrasound is a powerful weapon. 363 00:17:57,285 --> 00:17:59,829 And, apparently, it's affecting those 364 00:17:59,829 --> 00:18:01,455 who are coming to the mountain. 365 00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:03,791 That's why it is a hypothesis now 366 00:18:03,791 --> 00:18:06,210 that is being explored more and more in Russia 367 00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:10,131 as to the cause of death of the Dyatlov tourists. 368 00:18:10,131 --> 00:18:13,551 I don't subscribe to the theory that heavy winds 369 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:17,346 created an atmosphere where these people went nuts. 370 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:19,807 I think there was something else afoot, 371 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:21,934 something very evil and strange 372 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,769 that happened to these nine hikers. 373 00:18:23,769 --> 00:18:25,771 And I hope we get the answers to it. 374 00:18:25,771 --> 00:18:28,608 But again, maybe we don't want the answer. 375 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:31,652 Maybe because it's so hideous and so evil, 376 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:33,696 we don't want to know it. 377 00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:43,998 Did the harsh winds of the Dyatlov Pass 378 00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:46,292 really create a low‐frequency noise 379 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:49,045 that caused the hikers to lose their minds 380 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:51,297 and brutally kill each other? 381 00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:54,342 Or could it be that a mysterious, unknown monster 382 00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:57,136 was responsible for the hikers' deaths? 383 00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:00,139 For the nine men and women whose bodies were found 384 00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:02,683 horribly mutilated, the question is academic. 385 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,394 As far as they were concerned, 386 00:19:05,394 --> 00:19:09,190 evil... happened here. 387 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:11,192 And it's an evil that isn't only found 388 00:19:11,192 --> 00:19:15,738 on remote mountaintops, but right next door. 389 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:19,950 And often in the unlikeliest of places. 390 00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:25,748 Mercer County, West Virginia. 391 00:19:28,626 --> 00:19:33,422 Here on the bank of Lake Shawnee stands the abandoned remnants 392 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:38,552 of what was once a simple, wholesome family amusement park. 393 00:19:38,552 --> 00:19:40,846 (carnival music playing) 394 00:19:40,846 --> 00:19:45,184 Opened in 1926, the park thrived for decades, 395 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:49,355 until it was abruptly closed in 1966. 396 00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:53,192 According to local historians, the reason for the closure 397 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,070 was that what started as a playground for children... 398 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:57,571 (children's laughter echoing) 399 00:19:57,571 --> 00:20:00,282 ...became the site of numerous tragic 400 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:02,201 and disturbing incidents. 401 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,829 (children's laughter echoing) 402 00:20:04,829 --> 00:20:09,458 In the 1940s, a little girl was riding the swings, 403 00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,627 and a soda delivery truck delivered soda 404 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,129 to the concession stand. 405 00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:15,881 (children's laughter) 406 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,717 And whenever he did, he backed up 407 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,803 into the path of the swing, and it killed the little girl. 408 00:20:20,803 --> 00:20:23,139 SMITH: They tried to play it down 409 00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:26,600 because it was a child getting killed. 410 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,270 She wasn't the only child killed here. 411 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,647 There were several kids that drowned. 412 00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:34,233 One was a really sad story, and I would hope 413 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:35,484 it wouldn't happen nowadays. 414 00:20:35,484 --> 00:20:37,486 (splashing, children's laughter) 415 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:40,614 A mother brought her nine‐year‐old here 416 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:42,950 and dropped him off to go swimming. 417 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:44,744 And she went on her merry way. 418 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:47,747 She came back when the park was closing, 419 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,249 and she couldn't find her son. 420 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:53,627 And they looked for the son until 10:00 at night, 421 00:20:53,627 --> 00:20:54,879 when they found him. 422 00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:56,464 His arm was stuck 423 00:20:56,464 --> 00:20:58,632 in the drain of the swimming pool, 424 00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:01,469 and it had sucked him in, and he couldn't get out, 425 00:21:01,469 --> 00:21:04,764 and he had just drowned. 426 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,265 There was another incident 427 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,934 where there was a family out on an outing. 428 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:11,479 They was riding a canoe in the lake. 429 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:13,939 ‐The canoe overturned... ‐(boy screaming) 430 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,066 and a little boy drowned in the lake. 431 00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:21,447 SHATNER: Before its doors were closed, 432 00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:24,533 six children had died in the park. 433 00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:26,994 And that might have been reason enough for the park 434 00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:29,830 to remain closed... but it didn't. 435 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:34,126 In 1985, local resident Gaylord White 436 00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:37,630 purchased the property with hopes of reopening it. 437 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,802 JEWELL WHITE: In the 1950s, Gaylord, my husband, 438 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:45,554 worked here when he was in high school. 439 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:47,848 He fell in love with it. 440 00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:49,683 So that was his wish, 441 00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,144 that someday he would own the park. 442 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:55,022 And somebody had sent us word 443 00:21:55,022 --> 00:21:57,024 that the heirs had finally decided 444 00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,692 they were going to sell it. 445 00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:01,070 That's how we bought it. 446 00:22:01,070 --> 00:22:05,157 We wanted to have a children's ride park. 447 00:22:08,953 --> 00:22:12,665 SHATNER: For years, locals believed that the park was haunted. 448 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:15,584 Maybe even cursed. 449 00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:17,837 Then, in the late 1980s, 450 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:21,131 the White family made some curious discoveries. 451 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:25,135 CHRIS: We started finding a lot of pottery 452 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:30,182 and Native American tools and arrowheads, stuff like that. 453 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:33,853 So we stopped doing the bulldozing. 454 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:35,938 We called Marshall University. 455 00:22:35,938 --> 00:22:38,190 They put together an archaeological team 456 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,442 that would come down to the park. 457 00:22:40,442 --> 00:22:42,945 They started uncovering bodies. 458 00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:46,448 So that's when we knew we had a Native American burial ground 459 00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:47,992 on the property. 460 00:22:49,952 --> 00:22:52,288 I know that one of the burial sites 461 00:22:52,288 --> 00:22:55,583 was a Native American 14‐year‐old girl, 462 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:59,587 and the belief is that she died from giving childbirth 463 00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:02,506 because the child was buried next to her. 464 00:23:06,135 --> 00:23:08,637 SHATNER: A series of tragic deaths 465 00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:11,599 at an amusement park built on the site 466 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,059 of a Native American burial ground? 467 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:16,770 ‐A coincidence? ‐(children's laughter echoing) 468 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:20,774 As far as paranormal investigators are concerned... 469 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,277 not a chance. 470 00:23:23,277 --> 00:23:27,406 SPINKS: The first time I stepped foot on Lake Shawnee Amusement Park, 471 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,034 I felt like I was being watched. 472 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:34,747 It was an ominous, just negative feeling. 473 00:23:38,042 --> 00:23:41,754 I don't necessarily believe that places are born bad. 474 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:46,258 I believe that things have to occur 475 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:50,012 for a place to become negative in nature. 476 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:53,265 CHRIS: People said whenever they come to the park 477 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:56,602 that they see the swings move on their own, 478 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,729 or maybe they see an image of the little girl 479 00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:00,105 that's riding the swings. 480 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:06,362 SMITH: Seeing only one swing move when I look at it, 481 00:24:06,362 --> 00:24:08,030 and no one else sees it, 482 00:24:08,030 --> 00:24:10,491 or it stops as soon as someone else is looking, 483 00:24:10,491 --> 00:24:11,951 that's pretty scary. 484 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:14,954 More than scary, it's unexplained. 485 00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:19,375 We tend to be scientists now, all of us. 486 00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:21,126 We know everything that's going on. 487 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:24,004 And when you see something that you don't understand, 488 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:26,131 it gets to be creepy. 489 00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:28,801 AUERBACH: Millions of people have had these experiences. 490 00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,345 Not just hauntings, but also of ESP experiences 491 00:24:31,345 --> 00:24:33,013 and‐and related experiences. 492 00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:35,933 These are questions that science should be looking at 493 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:37,601 very carefully and closely. 494 00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:39,520 And to say, oh, it's mass hallucination 495 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,647 or it's this kind of explanation 496 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:43,649 without looking into the experience itself, 497 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:45,442 either the singular or the general patterns, 498 00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:47,236 is not scientific. 499 00:24:47,236 --> 00:24:48,821 It's highly unscientific. 500 00:24:50,197 --> 00:24:51,991 SHATNER: Is the dark history 501 00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:53,784 of the Lake Shawnee Amusement Park 502 00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:56,829 the result of a curse placed upon anyone 503 00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:59,581 who dares to desecrate this sacred ground? 504 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:04,461 Or was the area always a place of evil? 505 00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:07,673 A place where bad things will always happen, 506 00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:10,009 regardless of what is built there? 507 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:13,345 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining a place 508 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:16,557 where some people believe evil not only happens 509 00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:19,143 but can actually be measured. 510 00:25:19,143 --> 00:25:22,980 Not only in fear and suffering, but scientifically. 511 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:25,607 And can be proven to be as tangible 512 00:25:25,607 --> 00:25:28,360 as flesh and blood. 513 00:25:36,118 --> 00:25:38,203 SHATNER: Cayuga, Indiana. 514 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:41,874 February 16, 2019. 515 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:45,210 Paranormal investigator Dave Spinks 516 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,713 and his associate Haley Sharp 517 00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:50,799 have traveled here to this small town 518 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,302 to investigate a house that many consider 519 00:25:53,302 --> 00:25:57,014 to be the most evil place in North America. 520 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,392 Referred to as Willows Weep, 521 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:03,771 it has been the site of a series of gruesome deaths 522 00:26:03,771 --> 00:26:07,024 since it was built in the 19th century. 523 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:17,743 Brenda Johnson owns Willows Weep. 524 00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:19,620 ‐Hi, Brenda. ‐Hi, Dave. 525 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,913 SHATNER: She dismissed the rumors 526 00:26:20,913 --> 00:26:22,748 about it being an evil place 527 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,501 and purchased it only a few years ago, 528 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:27,169 with plans to renovate it. 529 00:26:27,169 --> 00:26:28,420 ‐This is my assistant, Haley. ‐Hi. 530 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:29,630 ‐Hi. ‐It's nice to meet you. 531 00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:31,048 SHATNER: But recent events 532 00:26:31,048 --> 00:26:33,133 have convinced her that she may have made 533 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,135 a terrible mistake. 534 00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:38,097 To this end, she's invited Dave and Haley 535 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,099 to come and investigate the house, 536 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:43,936 and see if her strange experiences can be verified. 537 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,772 SPINKS: So... how are you doing? 538 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:48,148 (chuckling): Not good standing here. 539 00:26:48,148 --> 00:26:50,776 All night last night, I was sick 540 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,779 thinking about coming over here around this house. 541 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,114 So tell us a little bit about the house, 542 00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:56,156 some of your experiences here. 543 00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:58,367 Well, when I bought the house, 544 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,285 we started working on it, 545 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:02,287 and then my son was working on the ceiling, 546 00:27:02,287 --> 00:27:06,291 the boards come flying off at him and hurt him, and... 547 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:07,960 I've been scratched in there. 548 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,878 Six claw marks down my back. 549 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:13,298 Doors slamming on you, banging underneath the floors. 550 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:15,634 SPINKS: I understand there's been deaths in this house. 551 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:17,594 Can you kind of go through those a little bit? 552 00:27:17,594 --> 00:27:18,762 Yeah. 553 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:24,476 The man that built the house, he died in the bathtub. 554 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:28,814 There was two suicides, and then another hanging. 555 00:27:28,814 --> 00:27:34,111 And I heard that three men had been poisoned. 556 00:27:34,111 --> 00:27:37,072 About six months prior before I bought it, 557 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:40,200 there was a man that, he committed suicide in there. 558 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,994 He fell into the chair and... 559 00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:43,662 SPINKS: That's where they found him? 560 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,622 They found him, what, a couple days later, right? 561 00:27:45,622 --> 00:27:48,834 ‐JOHNSON: A week. ‐SPINKS: A week? Week later. Okay. 562 00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:52,838 Do you think what's in that house is evil? 563 00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:54,339 Yes, I do. 564 00:27:54,339 --> 00:27:56,842 ‐Without a doubt? ‐Yes, I do, without a doubt. 565 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:59,344 If it wasn't evil, it wouldn't be hurting people. 566 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,680 I don't think there's nothing good in there. 567 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,017 ‐The house was built in the late 1800s, correct? ‐1890. 568 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:08,353 ‐Yes. ‐SPINKS: So, regarding the shape of the house, 569 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:10,272 it's in the shape of a‐a cross. 570 00:28:10,272 --> 00:28:11,523 Upside‐down cross. 571 00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:14,526 ‐SPINKS: Strange. ‐JOHNSON: Yes. 572 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:17,195 (chuckling): Very strange. 573 00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:19,865 SPINKS: Do you think the guy was into some weird stuff, 574 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:22,200 like occult stuff, that built it? 575 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,036 Why would you build a house like that 576 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:25,203 if you wasn't into something? 577 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:26,705 SPINKS: Absolutely. 578 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,582 So we're getting ready to go into this house 579 00:28:28,582 --> 00:28:30,792 and investigate it. Would you like to join us? 580 00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:33,003 No. No way. Never go back in there again. 581 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:34,880 ‐Ever. ‐All right. We're gonna 582 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,341 ‐get in there and investigate. ‐All right. 583 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,679 ‐SPINKS: Here we go. ‐SHARP: All right. 584 00:28:45,223 --> 00:28:47,893 Pretty heavy in here. 585 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,144 SHARP: Definitely. 586 00:28:51,229 --> 00:28:53,273 Well, where do you want to get set up? 587 00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:55,108 ‐Right here. ‐Okay. 588 00:28:55,108 --> 00:28:58,737 SHATNER: To see if the house might contain strange anomalies, 589 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:01,823 Dave and Haley will use a temperature sensor, 590 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:04,326 which can detect fluctuations in both temperature 591 00:29:04,326 --> 00:29:07,287 and electromagnetic fields. 592 00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:10,749 All right, 41, 40 degrees, and it's going down. 593 00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:19,967 SHARP: It really likes this area. 594 00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:24,554 SPINKS: Yeah. It's going nuts. 595 00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:26,932 SHATNER: The temperature sensor has been dropping steadily, 596 00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,351 by as much as nine degrees. 597 00:29:29,351 --> 00:29:31,770 But why? 598 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,647 So, this room is appearing to be 599 00:29:33,647 --> 00:29:35,524 ‐pretty active so far. ‐Yeah. 600 00:29:35,524 --> 00:29:37,442 I mean, the whole house really is. 601 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:41,947 But we've got a lot of hits right here, uh, on this device. 602 00:29:41,947 --> 00:29:44,783 SHARP: This is the chair that Brenda was talking about. 603 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,660 SPINKS: Yeah, look at the blood on it. 604 00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:50,038 It's a really sad, heavy feeling right here, too, 605 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:52,249 in the pit of my stomach. 606 00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:56,003 Almost immediately, the device started going off in the chair, 607 00:29:56,003 --> 00:30:00,465 where a man who killed himself in the house several years ago 608 00:30:00,465 --> 00:30:03,218 ‐was found in. ‐SHARP: Something there. 609 00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:04,970 SHATNER: Could the strange changes 610 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,471 in the temperature of the house 611 00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:09,182 be caused by some explainable force? 612 00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,476 A sudden drop in barometric pressure 613 00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:15,856 caused by the presence of a deep underground well, perhaps? 614 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:21,319 Or could it be caused by... something else? 615 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,489 Something that can't yet be explained? 616 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:27,492 I'm getting the sickness, the headache. 617 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:31,329 Definitely something negative in here, in my opinion. 618 00:30:31,329 --> 00:30:33,582 ‐I agree. ‐All right, so let's get out of here. 619 00:30:33,582 --> 00:30:34,833 ‐Let's go. ‐All right. 620 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,419 SHATNER: Dave and Haley are beginning 621 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:39,171 to suspect that the stories 622 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:41,923 of Willows Weep being an evil place 623 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,969 might be based on more than fear and superstition. 624 00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:48,930 SHARP: The house is scary. 625 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:51,516 I wouldn't want to be in this house alone. 626 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:53,685 I'd say this house does have some evil in it. 627 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:55,854 It does not give you a good feeling. 628 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,440 It wants to suck the life out of you. 629 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,861 SPINKS: I've been to many locations, 630 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:05,697 and this one stands out above all of them so far. 631 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:09,367 In my personal opinion, there are many spirits 632 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,369 and entities in this house. 633 00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:14,539 There are human spirits and possibly demonic spirits 634 00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:18,043 that influenced the humans that have lived in this house 635 00:31:18,043 --> 00:31:22,464 and quite possibly have caused them to harm themselves. 636 00:31:24,508 --> 00:31:27,552 SHATNER: Once outside, Dave and Haley give owner Brenda Johnson 637 00:31:27,552 --> 00:31:30,889 a report on their findings, but not before 638 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:34,601 Dave makes Brenda a rather surprising offer. 639 00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:36,394 I know you really don't like this place. 640 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:39,022 ‐No. ‐And I know that you want to get rid of it. 641 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:42,484 ‐Yeah. ‐Because I'd like to purchase the house from you. 642 00:31:42,484 --> 00:31:43,944 (laughs) 643 00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:45,612 ‐Mm‐hmm. ‐Okay. 644 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:47,364 ‐Yes. ‐SHATNER: Dave is willing to be 645 00:31:47,364 --> 00:31:49,407 ‐the next owner of Willows Weep. ‐All right. 646 00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:51,076 ‐All right. Thank you. ‐Thank you, hon. 647 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,578 SPINKS: I told Brenda, if I owned this house, 648 00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:56,248 I could investigate it much further 649 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,458 and much more in‐depth, 650 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:01,294 and possibly come to a conclusion 651 00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:04,965 as to what's causing the evil that lurks within its walls. 652 00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:07,592 That is, if something doesn't happen to me first. 653 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:08,802 JOHNSON: You, too. 654 00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:10,262 SPINKS: Luckily for me, she agreed. 655 00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,848 She really couldn't wait to sell the place. 656 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:18,812 Was Willows Weep really built to attract evil spirits? 657 00:32:18,812 --> 00:32:22,274 For Brenda Johnson, Dave Spinks and Haley Sharp, 658 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:26,611 the answer is a very disturbing yes. 659 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:29,114 But why would someone 660 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:32,492 deliberately want to construct an evil place? 661 00:32:32,492 --> 00:32:37,289 Unless, perhaps, it wasn't meant to attract demonic spirits, 662 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:39,791 but to entrap them, 663 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:43,003 in an effort to create a deadly warning 664 00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:46,590 that demons are real. 665 00:32:52,345 --> 00:32:56,099 SHATNER: Honduras, February 2015. 666 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:57,392 (birds chirping, insects trilling) 667 00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:59,311 Deep in the heart of the jungle, 668 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:03,356 a team of American explorers, journalists and archaeologists 669 00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:05,525 make a dramatic discovery: 670 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,152 evidence of an ancient city 671 00:33:07,152 --> 00:33:11,656 that has been lost for more than 500 years. 672 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,534 We were standing there on the banks of this river, 673 00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:17,579 and the archaeologist was pointing to this wall of jungle 674 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:19,247 and saying, across the river, 675 00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:22,209 "That's the beginning of the lost city." 676 00:33:24,294 --> 00:33:26,546 So we crossed the river 677 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:29,841 with the soldiers with machetes cutting a path for us. 678 00:33:31,968 --> 00:33:35,305 And all of a sudden, there it is rising up out of the jungle. 679 00:33:35,305 --> 00:33:37,140 Just straight up, practically. 680 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,643 It was the most amazing thing. 681 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,608 And then what we saw was a cache of sacred objects 682 00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:49,486 carved out of stone that had been left 683 00:33:49,486 --> 00:33:52,280 at the time the city was abandoned, 684 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,867 and this was a gigantic mystery. 685 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,079 Why did these people leave all of a sudden? 686 00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:04,209 SHATNER: The expedition announced 687 00:34:04,209 --> 00:34:06,878 that they had uncovered the top level of a vast city 688 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:10,632 which has been buried under centuries of jungle vegetation. 689 00:34:10,632 --> 00:34:13,468 Soon afterwards, many began to speculate 690 00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:16,930 as to whether the ruins were those of a legendary place 691 00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:19,891 known to Hondurans as Ciudad Blanca, 692 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:22,435 or the White City, 693 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:26,356 a place that was believed to have been deserted centuries ago 694 00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,693 because of a deadly curse. 695 00:34:29,693 --> 00:34:33,280 When we went to do our ground expedition in 2015, 696 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,450 many of the local Hondurans and the Honduran Air Force people 697 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:39,786 that were with us and the special forces people 698 00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:41,913 said, "Oh, yeah, my grandmother or my grandfather told me 699 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,957 "all about the lost city when we were kids, 700 00:34:43,957 --> 00:34:45,792 and they said it's cursed." 701 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:50,672 They said, "If you go there and you pick any of the flowers, 702 00:34:50,672 --> 00:34:53,466 you will die, you will never come back." 703 00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:59,180 TOK THOMPSON: In the case of the White City, 704 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:02,892 there is a very interesting tradition of a Tawahka Indian 705 00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:05,312 who came to live there with them, 706 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,523 uh, and they refused him shelter, chased him out. 707 00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,276 And in turn, he cursed the city, 708 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:14,529 ‐and he cursed that area... ‐(man screaming) 709 00:35:14,529 --> 00:35:18,783 so that it became, basically, a poisonous area to live in 710 00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:21,286 and the people had to abandon their city and leave. 711 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:26,833 PRESTON: You know, we heard these stories, 712 00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:28,835 but, you know, we're scientists. 713 00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:33,381 We're anthropologists, archaeologists, ethnobotanists. 714 00:35:33,381 --> 00:35:35,800 You know, we don't believe in curses. 715 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,761 Or so we thought. 716 00:35:37,761 --> 00:35:42,515 But, you know, sometimes curses are based on the truth. 717 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:46,269 â™Ș â™Ș 718 00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:49,731 ELKINS: After we completed our first ground expedition, 719 00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:52,442 everybody came back alive, nobody got injured. 720 00:35:52,442 --> 00:35:54,069 We're shaking hands, 721 00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:56,696 tipping a beer and going, "Great, we made it." 722 00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,365 You know, everyone survived. 723 00:35:58,365 --> 00:36:00,283 We all had hundreds of bug bites. 724 00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:06,122 Didn't think anything of them until about a month later. 725 00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:11,670 And 60% of our crew, including the Hondurans, 726 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,005 they had a bug bite that didn't go away. 727 00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:16,132 It got bigger. 728 00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:21,680 Eventually, it became a big open wound, a big open ulcer. 729 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,932 A couple other people became very, very ill. 730 00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:26,393 Two of them almost died. 731 00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:29,729 And then we had them diagnose it at NIH, and they said, yes, 732 00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:32,774 you have leishmaniasis, but not even just regular leishmaniasis. 733 00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:34,609 This is an entirely new one. 734 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:36,820 We just did a genetic sequence, 735 00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,906 and it's a really virulent one we've never seen before. 736 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:45,453 SHATNER: More commonly known as "flesh‐eating disease," 737 00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:48,665 leishmaniasis is a rare parasitic disease 738 00:36:48,665 --> 00:36:51,710 that is spread by the bites of certain sandflies. 739 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,254 The affliction eats away at the skin 740 00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:57,090 of the limbs, nose and mouth. 741 00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:58,925 The new strain that infected the explorers 742 00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:00,802 is particularly aggressive 743 00:37:00,802 --> 00:37:04,055 and, if not treated properly, fatal. 744 00:37:05,515 --> 00:37:08,643 But even so, a parasitic disease 745 00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:11,813 is hardly proof of an ancient curse. 746 00:37:11,813 --> 00:37:14,357 Or is it? 747 00:37:14,357 --> 00:37:17,152 WHITEHEAD: What's interesting about the legend of this curse 748 00:37:17,152 --> 00:37:19,446 is that it actually does appear to be true. 749 00:37:19,446 --> 00:37:22,407 How can we explain that hundreds of years ago, 750 00:37:22,407 --> 00:37:25,118 a man left a curse saying that, forevermore, 751 00:37:25,118 --> 00:37:28,455 people will be ravaged by disease and all of these things, 752 00:37:28,455 --> 00:37:30,790 and then we actually see it happen? 753 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,085 SHATNER: Was it merely a coincidence 754 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:36,504 that the American team happened to contract 755 00:37:36,504 --> 00:37:39,340 a deadly and previously unknown disease 756 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:41,301 at a site believed to be cursed? 757 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:46,890 Or could the curse have been real? 758 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:48,892 As far as journalist Doug Preston is concerned, 759 00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:50,935 the answer is obvious. 760 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:53,605 PRESTON: I used to think that curses were just kind of silly, 761 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:55,440 but not anymore. 762 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,027 Next time I go somewhere and I'm told that it's cursed, 763 00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:01,237 I'm really gonna think twice about it. 764 00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:06,034 SHATNER: If evil places really do exist, 765 00:38:06,034 --> 00:38:08,244 is it possible to cure them? 766 00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:10,121 To rid them of the pestilence 767 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:13,166 that infects anyone who gets too close? 768 00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:17,003 There are those who believe the answer is a profound yes. 769 00:38:17,003 --> 00:38:19,756 And it involves fighting fire... 770 00:38:19,756 --> 00:38:21,132 (man screaming) 771 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:23,134 ...with fire. 772 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,190 SHATNER: Dogotuki Village, Fiji, July 2018. 773 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:40,652 Members of a church group set two houses on fire 774 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,487 and burn them to the ground. 775 00:38:42,487 --> 00:38:45,031 The blaze is intended to purge the village 776 00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:47,617 of evil spirits believed to have been responsible 777 00:38:47,617 --> 00:38:49,953 for the recent deaths of 20 people. 778 00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:56,417 These houses were older houses, but they had been 779 00:38:56,417 --> 00:39:00,046 traditionally associated with magical practices 780 00:39:00,046 --> 00:39:03,633 and the reports of witchcraft being practiced. 781 00:39:03,633 --> 00:39:06,678 WHITEHEAD: And as they burnt the places down to the ground, 782 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,471 some of the villagers reported seeing a demon 783 00:39:08,471 --> 00:39:10,932 come out of the ashes. 784 00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:13,935 And they've reported all kinds of really creepy things 785 00:39:13,935 --> 00:39:16,855 that happened once they tried to burn down those houses. 786 00:39:16,855 --> 00:39:20,108 So the question is: Were they successful 787 00:39:20,108 --> 00:39:22,193 in getting rid of evil in that place? 788 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:26,155 Or did they actually just aggravate it more 789 00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:28,491 by burning those houses to the ground? 790 00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:32,704 THOMPSON: Fire is a very common means 791 00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:35,206 of spiritual purification. 792 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:40,211 And so many different traditions incorporate fire in some sense, 793 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:44,632 very often for its destructive properties, 794 00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:48,219 and yet at the same time, cleansing properties. 795 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,681 I've had a lot of people on my radio show who have apparently 796 00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:55,310 cleansed haunted houses and haunted areas. 797 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:57,896 They talk about putting sage 798 00:39:57,896 --> 00:40:00,481 around the perimeter of the house 799 00:40:00,481 --> 00:40:04,193 and things like that that chase away the evil spirits. 800 00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:07,989 But by and large, I'm not sure that works. 801 00:40:07,989 --> 00:40:11,492 I think once a place is haunted, it's gonna haunt, 802 00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,703 it's gonna do what it does. 803 00:40:13,703 --> 00:40:17,832 ONO: I think there are energies in life that we don't understand. 804 00:40:17,832 --> 00:40:20,335 Either created through our own minds 805 00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:22,211 in our own physical energy, 806 00:40:22,211 --> 00:40:25,965 or perhaps the physical energy of a place. 807 00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:30,178 There are places where people have died either violently 808 00:40:30,178 --> 00:40:34,223 or tragically, and that creates this dark energy. 809 00:40:34,223 --> 00:40:38,728 There might be some negative spirits, some ghosts. 810 00:40:38,728 --> 00:40:40,939 And that force that's happening within it 811 00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:42,732 could also affect people. 812 00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:47,320 SPINKS: I've been to some of the most evil and nasty locations 813 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,324 one could imagine, and I've seen people's lives ruined 814 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:54,118 by these negative evil forces. 815 00:40:54,118 --> 00:40:58,206 And in my opinion, some of these locations are stained forever 816 00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:03,419 with the blood and the energy of these tragic events. 817 00:41:03,419 --> 00:41:07,131 These murders, these suicides. 818 00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:09,801 And to me, that can never go away. 819 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,309 Fire, 820 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:22,480 cleansing the evil that infects certain cursed places. 821 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,856 Nonsense, right? 822 00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:25,274 As far as you're concerned, 823 00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:26,901 there's no such thing as evil places. 824 00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:30,405 Well, then maybe you'd like to spend the night 825 00:41:30,405 --> 00:41:33,533 at Willows Weep, hmm? 826 00:41:33,533 --> 00:41:38,037 Or ride the swing set at Lake Shawnee Amusement Park. 827 00:41:38,037 --> 00:41:42,166 Or perhaps you'd like to have a picnic lunch 828 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,836 at Japan's Suicide Forest. 829 00:41:44,836 --> 00:41:47,255 No? 830 00:41:47,255 --> 00:41:49,924 What's the matter, are you frightened? 831 00:41:49,924 --> 00:41:53,052 Or are you just too smart 832 00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:55,930 to tamper with things in the world 833 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:59,767 that are The UnXplained? 834 00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:02,812 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 66146

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