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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,042 --> 00:00:05,044 Chaplin became increasingly miserable there and would expensively... 2 00:00:05,144 --> 00:00:08,447 ...return to Los Angeles for most of the shoot. 3 00:00:09,447 --> 00:00:12,749 Even the famous chicken gag had to be reshot there. 4 00:00:12,949 --> 00:00:16,051 For one take they used a double. You could obviously put a double... 5 00:00:16,251 --> 00:00:19,253 ...into a chicken costume. I mean, one chicken looks like another. 6 00:00:19,453 --> 00:00:22,355 Not true. Apparently the double-- You could see it was a double. 7 00:00:22,555 --> 00:00:26,257 It just didn't move like a chicken, like Charlie moves like a chicken. 8 00:00:26,858 --> 00:00:28,659 The miners are starving. 9 00:00:28,859 --> 00:00:32,661 They're so hungry that Mack Swain begins hallucinating. 10 00:00:33,061 --> 00:00:36,664 Was ever there a more perfect animal imitation than Chaplin 's? 11 00:00:36,864 --> 00:00:40,966 His ability silently to convey thought, even a bird's thought... 12 00:00:41,866 --> 00:00:46,069 ...inspired a young Richard Attenborough when he saw the film in rerelease. 13 00:00:46,169 --> 00:00:50,872 He was able to convey the most extraordinary thoughts... 14 00:00:50,972 --> 00:00:55,175 ...and intricacy of thoughts, and debate and reaction... 15 00:00:55,375 --> 00:00:59,378 ...purely by physical, and not just facial... 16 00:00:59,577 --> 00:01:02,680 ...but physical reaction to things. 17 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:07,683 It was an experience I had never even considered... 18 00:01:07,883 --> 00:01:10,684 ...in that here was somebody who could not only hold... 19 00:01:10,784 --> 00:01:15,887 ...my attention absolutely, but deny me the choice of laughing or crying. 20 00:01:16,087 --> 00:01:20,490 I mean, he dealt with me as this figure on the screen. 21 00:01:20,690 --> 00:01:25,093 I thought it was the most magical thing I'd ever seen in my life. 22 00:01:25,293 --> 00:01:29,796 And it was that occasion, no question, I want to be an actor. 23 00:01:29,996 --> 00:01:34,098 If I could do what he could do in relation to an audience... 24 00:01:34,298 --> 00:01:39,102 ...I want to be an actor. That's how it started my love of him. 25 00:01:40,402 --> 00:01:45,405 The Tramp was, as usual, the outsider, especially when it came to love. 26 00:01:45,605 --> 00:01:48,007 It looked as if he would not get the girl. 27 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:51,209 Or maybe it was that the girl did not get him. 28 00:01:52,109 --> 00:01:55,311 Georgia Hale had replaced Lita Grey in the film. 29 00:01:55,511 --> 00:01:59,714 In real life, Chaplin naturally began having an affair with her. 30 00:01:59,914 --> 00:02:03,116 The discontinuities between his Tramp character and Chaplin's own... 31 00:02:03,316 --> 00:02:06,618 ... vast worldly success were not much remarked. 32 00:02:07,018 --> 00:02:10,421 Except by Chaplin, who once rather bitterly noted the irony... 33 00:02:10,621 --> 00:02:15,323 ... that he had become rich by playing the poorest of men. 34 00:02:19,926 --> 00:02:22,628 Johnny Depp had to duplicate one of The Gold Rush's... 35 00:02:22,728 --> 00:02:25,730 ...most famous moments in his movie Benny & Joon. 36 00:02:30,333 --> 00:02:34,135 Approaching the roll dance, when you see the thing it's very simple. 37 00:02:34,335 --> 00:02:38,037 It's so difficult. It's so difficult. l mean, the coordination. 38 00:02:38,237 --> 00:02:41,940 It's something that Chaplin just did in an instant. 39 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:44,841 He just came up with it like that. 40 00:02:44,941 --> 00:02:47,943 It took me about, I don't know, a good three weeks to a month... 41 00:02:48,143 --> 00:02:51,045 ...of really working on it. 42 00:02:51,845 --> 00:02:55,948 It's not just in this. It's in this, you know. It's all in here. 43 00:02:56,148 --> 00:03:01,852 Chaplin's head and, you know, the little glances, the side glances. 44 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:09,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 45 00:03:12,358 --> 00:03:16,761 The Gold Rush is the one film in which the Tramp ends up a millionaire. 46 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:21,964 Maybe it's Chaplin 's acknowledgment of his own equally astonishing rise. 47 00:03:25,466 --> 00:03:29,468 Six years after the company's founding, Chaplin had finally delivered a hit... 48 00:03:29,669 --> 00:03:32,170 ... to his United Artists partners. 49 00:03:33,571 --> 00:03:36,472 Meanwhile, Lita, seen with him here at a premiere... 50 00:03:36,573 --> 00:03:39,375 ...had delivered their second son, Sydney. 51 00:03:39,475 --> 00:03:42,276 But the marriage was not going well. 52 00:03:48,580 --> 00:03:51,982 The Circus, maybe Chaplin's most purely hilarious feature... 53 00:03:52,382 --> 00:03:54,183 ... was not going well either. 54 00:03:54,284 --> 00:03:57,685 Its production was haunted by unimaginable problems. 55 00:03:57,885 --> 00:04:02,689 It was in '28. I was 5 years old, and I went to see the film. 56 00:04:02,889 --> 00:04:07,591 It must have been The Circus. I was amazed. 57 00:04:07,792 --> 00:04:11,194 I laughed, and it moved me... 58 00:04:11,394 --> 00:04:14,596 ...even though I was a 6-year-old boy. 59 00:04:16,597 --> 00:04:18,398 And then I started to imitate Chaplin. 60 00:04:18,598 --> 00:04:21,800 I stole the bowler hat of my father, his trousers... 61 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,203 ...and with the ink I put the moustache on, and I mimed Chaplin. 62 00:04:29,104 --> 00:04:33,307 With this picture, self-consciousness enters Chaplin 's universe. 63 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:37,609 It's his first exploration of his own art, the art of being funny. 64 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:42,013 When he tries to be funny, he isn 't. When he doesn't try to be funny, he is. 65 00:04:42,212 --> 00:04:46,915 The scene also comments on his supposed old-fashioned qualities. 66 00:04:47,015 --> 00:04:51,418 The bits that don't work here in 1927, did work for him a decade earlier. 67 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,722 The clown in this scene is played by Henry Bergman... 68 00:04:57,822 --> 00:05:00,023 ... who worked with Chaplin for decades. 69 00:05:00,123 --> 00:05:05,326 He represents classic, highly stylized, commedia dell'arte comic values. 70 00:05:05,526 --> 00:05:08,628 Chaplin represents a more naturalistic variation. 71 00:05:08,728 --> 00:05:10,529 He's going to exaggerate, of course... 72 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:12,731 ...but there's also something real about him... 73 00:05:12,831 --> 00:05:15,132 ...something that works for the movies... 74 00:05:15,232 --> 00:05:18,234 ... that most seemingly realistic of all media. 75 00:05:21,736 --> 00:05:25,239 And in the film, Chaplin had to play this pantomime... 76 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:27,640 ...but when he saw the clown with a real arrow... 77 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:29,741 ...he was frightened he could be killed. 78 00:05:29,841 --> 00:05:32,943 Then he did this-- I show you what he did. 79 00:05:41,649 --> 00:05:46,651 That means, "I cannot do it, because there is a worm in the apple. " 80 00:05:55,557 --> 00:05:57,458 He was a master in pacing. 81 00:05:57,658 --> 00:06:00,559 He knew exactly when after one gag... 82 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:03,462 ...he has to top it with an even bigger gag... 83 00:06:03,662 --> 00:06:06,163 ...or if he suddenly has to go into total opposite. 84 00:06:06,864 --> 00:06:11,366 It was never gag for the sake of the gag. It was always the gag for the sake of... 85 00:06:11,566 --> 00:06:14,468 ...revealing something about the character or something... 86 00:06:14,669 --> 00:06:17,470 ...about the story, or revealing something about the plot. 87 00:06:18,671 --> 00:06:22,073 In The Circus, Chaplin's plagued by an endless array of animals... 88 00:06:22,273 --> 00:06:25,175 ...all irrationally bent on assaulting his dignity. 89 00:06:27,476 --> 00:06:31,078 It's true that he mastered the cinematic art... 90 00:06:31,278 --> 00:06:34,480 ...so well that you don't see it. 91 00:06:36,782 --> 00:06:40,084 You don't see it. It just flows in the film and it goes. 92 00:06:40,484 --> 00:06:43,586 It's just so natural, everything. 93 00:06:58,795 --> 00:07:00,996 Chaplin 's routine with the magician 's table... 94 00:07:01,197 --> 00:07:04,999 ...is one of his most masterfully orchestrated gag sequences... 95 00:07:05,099 --> 00:07:08,101 ... yet he would go on to top it in this very film. 96 00:07:09,902 --> 00:07:13,304 The Circus, it's just a wonderful good time. 97 00:07:13,504 --> 00:07:16,206 The jokes and the execution of them are so brilliant... 98 00:07:16,306 --> 00:07:19,407 ...and so uncluttered by anything that can date it. 99 00:07:20,108 --> 00:07:23,310 Social ideas and satire... 100 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:27,513 ...on the mores of the time date all the time. 101 00:07:28,213 --> 00:07:34,017 This stuff is so beautifully done, and it's as fresh as could be. 102 00:07:35,317 --> 00:07:38,519 Another example, say, would be the movie Singin' in the Rain. 103 00:07:38,619 --> 00:07:43,122 That will be as fresh 500 years from now... 104 00:07:43,322 --> 00:07:45,824 ...as it was the day it came out. 105 00:07:48,525 --> 00:07:51,927 Sometimes his gags were simple little throwaway moments. 106 00:07:59,332 --> 00:08:03,635 Sometimes the gags were as familiar as this nightmare of entrapment. 107 00:08:04,335 --> 00:08:08,137 Though perhaps only Chaplin would have thought of this awful logic: 108 00:08:08,337 --> 00:08:11,639 A barking dog threatening to awaken a sleeping lion. 109 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,742 Surely the Tramp's endless on-screen problems... 110 00:08:15,942 --> 00:08:21,045 ...reflect Chaplin's off-screen problems as he struggled to finish The Circus. 111 00:08:21,245 --> 00:08:24,347 The Circus isn't even mentioned in his autobiography. 112 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:27,449 It's a miracle that that film got made, for a start... 113 00:08:27,549 --> 00:08:31,651 ...because everything happened. All the disasters in the world happened with it. 114 00:08:31,851 --> 00:08:34,253 The whole set was completely destroyed by fire... 115 00:08:34,454 --> 00:08:37,655 ...and then what the fire didn't destroy, the firemen destroyed. 116 00:08:37,855 --> 00:08:42,258 Then he had the most messy and disastrous and horrible divorce. 117 00:08:42,357 --> 00:08:44,960 The shooting had to stop for nine months... 118 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,562 ...because his wife divorced him. And it was such an ugly divorce... 119 00:08:48,762 --> 00:08:52,064 ...that he was frightened that she would, in fact, kidnap the film. 120 00:08:52,264 --> 00:08:54,265 And so he had to hide the film. 121 00:08:54,465 --> 00:08:59,268 Lita's 42-page divorce complaint was designed to ruin Chaplin. 122 00:08:59,368 --> 00:09:03,571 It named the names of his lovers, discussed intimate sexual behavior... 123 00:09:03,770 --> 00:09:07,973 ...and in book form, became an underground bestseller. 124 00:09:09,774 --> 00:09:12,776 The divorce was quite ugly, and she got quite a bit of money... 125 00:09:12,977 --> 00:09:17,479 ...my mother, and so they had nothing really to talk about. 126 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:22,382 Therefore, Chaplin did not appear in court. He threw money at Lita. 127 00:09:22,582 --> 00:09:26,285 The divorce settlement was the largest in American history to date. 128 00:09:26,385 --> 00:09:31,988 Such was his popularity that most of the mud she threw ended up on her. 129 00:09:33,388 --> 00:09:36,091 Chaplin nearly collapsed under the strain. 130 00:09:36,190 --> 00:09:39,092 He fled to New York, where these pictures were taken... 131 00:09:39,192 --> 00:09:41,994 ...and suffered a nervous breakdown. 132 00:09:42,194 --> 00:09:44,395 He was having an affair with his leading lady... 133 00:09:44,595 --> 00:09:46,397 ...the best friend of his wife. 134 00:09:46,597 --> 00:09:50,399 So maybe that's why he never mentioned it as one of his favorite films. 135 00:09:50,599 --> 00:09:53,201 She was Merna Kennedy. In the movie, she loves Rex... 136 00:09:53,401 --> 00:09:55,903 ... the tightrope walker, played by Harry Crocker. 137 00:09:57,704 --> 00:10:01,906 Trying to impress her, the Tramp decides to emulate Rex. 138 00:10:02,106 --> 00:10:06,009 Though I always am so much in awe of and express my admiration... 139 00:10:06,109 --> 00:10:09,111 ...for his sense of story arc and of how he subordinated... 140 00:10:09,311 --> 00:10:11,912 ...everything to story, still I realize... 141 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:16,215 ...my visceral memory and reaction are to individual chunks. 142 00:10:16,315 --> 00:10:19,316 So when I think of The Circus, that sequence on the tightrope... 143 00:10:19,517 --> 00:10:22,419 ...with the monkey climbing on his head, that's the movie to me. 144 00:10:44,832 --> 00:10:47,734 My father had an idea. He said, "l have an idea... 145 00:10:47,834 --> 00:10:51,236 ...of the Tramp being in a situation where he can't get out of. " 146 00:10:51,436 --> 00:10:55,238 Comedy is often a situation of a nightmare. 147 00:10:55,338 --> 00:10:58,841 And this was a nightmare situation of a man on a tightrope. 148 00:10:59,041 --> 00:11:02,743 Everything goes wrong. He's falling off. His pants fall down. 149 00:11:02,843 --> 00:11:06,445 He's got a whole lot of monkeys around him who are biting his nose. 150 00:11:06,645 --> 00:11:10,648 And the idea started off by that nightmare situation. 151 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:41,466 You'd have to say this is the best banana-peel joke in human history. 152 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:05,481 Also, the last scene in the film... 153 00:12:05,681 --> 00:12:09,484 ...this beautiful scene with the horses, all these wonderful wagons... 154 00:12:09,684 --> 00:12:12,485 ...and the dust and the light, and it's extraordinary. 155 00:12:12,585 --> 00:12:15,687 He shot it and shot it and shot it, and looked at the rushes... 156 00:12:15,787 --> 00:12:19,690 ...at 3:00 in the morning and said, "No, it's not-- His hat isn't quite right. 157 00:12:19,890 --> 00:12:21,791 We've got to do it again. " 158 00:12:21,891 --> 00:12:24,692 And someone stole the wagons. They weren't there. 159 00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:27,194 This whole freshman course of students... 160 00:12:27,394 --> 00:12:31,297 ...stole the wagons for their fire ceremony. 161 00:12:31,497 --> 00:12:35,099 Chaplin rounded up the wagons and reshot. 162 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,503 The ending of The Circus is one of Chaplin's most beautiful. 163 00:12:41,603 --> 00:12:44,504 He could be, whatever his critics might say... 164 00:12:44,604 --> 00:12:48,607 ...a great pictorialist when he wanted to be. 165 00:12:58,913 --> 00:13:01,815 But there's a larger symbolism to this sequence. 166 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:04,717 Chaplin finished work on The Circus just three days... 167 00:13:04,817 --> 00:13:07,619 ...after the premiere of The Jazz Singer. 168 00:13:07,718 --> 00:13:10,520 Sound was about to revolutionize the movies... 169 00:13:10,721 --> 00:13:14,523 ...and everyone, Chaplin included, wondered if the Tramp... 170 00:13:14,723 --> 00:13:17,425 ...a figure it was impossible to imagine talking... 171 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:19,626 ... would survive the revolution. 172 00:13:19,726 --> 00:13:23,228 He, however, was already writing his next movie. 173 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:31,233 It was City Lights, Chaplin's last fully realized, fully acknowledged masterpiece. 174 00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:34,235 The Tramp's introduction, unconcernedly snoozing... 175 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:39,838 ...on the establishment's statuary, was the greatest of all his movie entrances. 176 00:13:40,439 --> 00:13:43,140 The film had a score and a bit of gibberish talk... 177 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:45,942 ...but it was essentially a silent movie. 178 00:13:46,442 --> 00:13:50,145 I've often said that it's much harder being a talking comedian... 179 00:13:50,245 --> 00:13:52,546 ...on the screen than a silent comedian. 180 00:13:52,646 --> 00:13:56,248 The example I always gave was the difference between chess and checkers. 181 00:13:56,348 --> 00:14:00,051 It's like checkers to do it silently. You can figure out the gags... 182 00:14:00,251 --> 00:14:04,153 ...and painstakingly write them, and then execute them... 183 00:14:04,553 --> 00:14:08,956 ...but as soon as you have to speak, you're plunged into a different reality... 184 00:14:09,156 --> 00:14:13,558 ...that's much more complex and the demands become much different. 185 00:14:14,359 --> 00:14:17,961 Even so, the demands of silent comedy were not that easily satisfied... 186 00:14:18,161 --> 00:14:20,263 ...especially by Chaplin. 187 00:14:20,463 --> 00:14:25,066 For unlike his competitors, Keaton and Lloyd, he did it all himself. 188 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:28,968 He never employed gag-writing teams to help hone his humor. 189 00:14:29,068 --> 00:14:31,069 He always built up his routines on his feet... 190 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:33,471 ...in endless rehearsals like this one. 191 00:14:33,671 --> 00:14:38,073 Later, in retake after retake, he would elaborate or simplify them. 192 00:14:50,281 --> 00:14:52,182 In feature-length things... 193 00:14:52,382 --> 00:14:55,484 ...you can't just do them alone with comedy. 194 00:14:55,684 --> 00:14:58,285 So he brings in romance and sentiment. 195 00:15:04,189 --> 00:15:09,793 When I saw City Lights, I realized what a deep filmmaker he was... 196 00:15:09,993 --> 00:15:13,495 ...because I felt that that film said more about love... 197 00:15:13,695 --> 00:15:19,098 ...than so many purportedly serious investigations of the subject. 198 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,102 Emotionally, it lives out feelings of real love. 199 00:15:25,202 --> 00:15:28,504 You see what he feels for the girl... 200 00:15:28,604 --> 00:15:31,406 ...and to what lengths he's willing to go. 201 00:15:31,506 --> 00:15:37,609 If she can't see him, she's able to feel that love... 202 00:15:38,110 --> 00:15:42,212 ...and she has no idea that it's some scruffy little tramp... 203 00:15:42,312 --> 00:15:45,614 ...that's making her life beautiful. 204 00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:55,420 The production was strained, particularly in Chaplin 's relationship... 205 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:59,022 ... with his inexperienced leading lady Virginia Cherrill. 206 00:15:59,322 --> 00:16:04,025 As h3 gr3w, he started having to... 207 00:16:04,226 --> 00:16:08,128 ...construct stories. He started having to involve, also... 208 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:12,931 ...his own emotional feelings with women... 209 00:16:13,131 --> 00:16:14,832 ...and get deeper into himself. 210 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:20,035 And I think that must have made it a lot harder for him. 211 00:16:20,235 --> 00:16:23,938 It must have been a greater struggle then to construct something... 212 00:16:24,038 --> 00:16:26,639 ...because he tried to put another dimension into it. 213 00:16:26,839 --> 00:16:29,440 And I think that's when he would have moments... 214 00:16:29,541 --> 00:16:33,144 ...of struggling to find ideas. 215 00:16:34,844 --> 00:16:38,846 He's always thinking, "What is logical? Is the gag logical? 216 00:16:39,047 --> 00:16:42,449 Is it right for it to happen?" And the stories about City Lights... 217 00:16:42,549 --> 00:16:46,651 ...how he spent months trying to work out one little bit of business... 218 00:16:46,751 --> 00:16:49,453 ...to make it plausible, to make it logical. 219 00:16:50,254 --> 00:16:52,955 This is that bit of business. 220 00:16:54,056 --> 00:16:57,458 How to make the blind girl misidentify her benefactor as a rich man. 221 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,162 It's the noises of a limousine door slamming, its motor purring off... 222 00:17:03,262 --> 00:17:07,264 ...sounds resonant of wealth, that do the trick. 223 00:17:13,167 --> 00:17:17,670 This is one instance where a soundtrack would have made Chaplin's job easier. 224 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,572 But he and Cherrill have to convey her misunderstanding... 225 00:17:20,672 --> 00:17:23,474 ...and his all too clear understanding of what happened... 226 00:17:23,674 --> 00:17:25,875 ...by brilliantly mimed thought. 227 00:17:25,975 --> 00:17:29,377 Chaplin, whose mood at the time was erratic and angry... 228 00:17:29,577 --> 00:17:32,079 ...shot on this picture for over a year. 229 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:35,881 I love the toying with the sentimentality, the way he makes you feel sentimental... 230 00:17:35,981 --> 00:17:38,483 ...and particularly the scene where he's watching her... 231 00:17:38,583 --> 00:17:41,384 ...he's in love with her, and she's at the fountain. 232 00:17:41,584 --> 00:17:43,886 He had me going with the sentimentality... 233 00:17:44,087 --> 00:17:47,789 ...and yet the moment happens when she sprays the water... 234 00:17:47,988 --> 00:17:50,990 ...in his face and breaks it. I thought, "This guy's the best. " 235 00:17:51,891 --> 00:17:53,893 The movie's brilliant subplot: 236 00:17:54,293 --> 00:17:56,994 Henry Myers is a millionaire who 's benign when sober... 237 00:17:57,094 --> 00:18:00,196 ...but madly suicidal when he's drunk. 238 00:18:02,798 --> 00:18:06,100 And then, of course, the guy with all the money... 239 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,902 ...who's got all the possessions and all the money in the world... 240 00:18:10,102 --> 00:18:12,904 ...and is on the verge of suicide all the time... 241 00:18:13,104 --> 00:18:16,706 ...because his feelings are unrequited in love. 242 00:18:19,608 --> 00:18:25,611 It's such an interesting exploration of all those feelings in a nonverbal way. 243 00:18:27,012 --> 00:18:30,714 It's one step removed from music. 244 00:18:31,114 --> 00:18:33,316 For me, it's his best picture. 245 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:43,423 The intertitle says it all. The job, as what was once called a "white wing"... 246 00:18:43,523 --> 00:18:46,724 ...cleaning up after animals on the street, is demeaning. 247 00:18:46,924 --> 00:18:50,226 But it tells us Chaplin will do anything to help the girl. 248 00:18:50,426 --> 00:18:54,829 And it leads to what may be one of Chaplin's greatest sight gags. 249 00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:17,243 I began to be impressed with the fact that he was such a good actor as well... 250 00:19:17,443 --> 00:19:19,844 ...because the serious side of that movie... 251 00:19:19,944 --> 00:19:24,447 ...he handled with legendary brilliance. 252 00:19:24,547 --> 00:19:27,949 Well, my favorite picture of all time, I guess, is City Lights. 253 00:19:28,149 --> 00:19:29,850 I've seen it 40 times or more. 254 00:19:31,951 --> 00:19:35,154 I think it's very funny, incredibly touching... 255 00:19:35,354 --> 00:19:38,355 ...and the end is just hard to.... 256 00:19:39,356 --> 00:19:41,957 I get choked up now even thinking about it. 257 00:19:42,057 --> 00:19:45,560 When she recognizes it's him that's helped her regain her sight... 258 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,762 ...and everything, it's murder. Beautiful picture. 259 00:19:54,965 --> 00:20:00,369 The Tramp has secretly paid for the operation that restores the girl's sight. 260 00:20:19,180 --> 00:20:22,582 Three days after City Lights premiered, an exhausted Chaplin... 261 00:20:22,782 --> 00:20:27,185 ...embarked on a world tour. As usual, the crowds were enormous. 262 00:20:27,385 --> 00:20:32,088 As usual, no door was closed to him. In London, he met George Bernard Shaw. 263 00:20:32,788 --> 00:20:34,990 More important to him, he met Gandhi. 264 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,791 As the world-wide depression deepened... 265 00:20:37,992 --> 00:20:41,994 ... Chaplin made the Mahatma's political and spiritual concerns his own. 266 00:20:43,495 --> 00:20:46,297 Chaplin moved on to Berlin in what many have said... 267 00:20:46,497 --> 00:20:49,698 ... was his most enormous popular reception ever. 268 00:20:49,899 --> 00:20:51,400 Yet it was tainted. 269 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,101 The Nazis, just two years before taking power... 270 00:20:54,201 --> 00:20:57,704 ...issued vicious anti-Semitic attacks against him. 271 00:20:57,804 --> 00:21:00,905 Chaplin was not a Jew, but he was reluctant to say so. 272 00:21:01,106 --> 00:21:04,908 He thought that would implicitly support the anti-Semites. 273 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:11,812 Immediately on his return to America... 274 00:21:12,012 --> 00:21:15,114 ...he met Paulette Goddard, the second of his great loves. 275 00:21:15,714 --> 00:21:18,616 Even now, the grapevine is enough alive so that people say: 276 00:21:18,817 --> 00:21:21,918 "He could be a difficult man to work for or be married to... 277 00:21:22,018 --> 00:21:24,219 ...and he often confused the two statuses. " 278 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:27,822 As he did with Goddard, planning to star her in his next picture. 279 00:21:28,222 --> 00:21:32,124 A former showgirl, she was a lively, lovely companion. 280 00:21:32,325 --> 00:21:35,627 Among her accomplishments, she effected a reconciliation... 281 00:21:35,727 --> 00:21:37,828 ...between Chaplin and his two sons. 282 00:21:38,028 --> 00:21:39,829 Oh, she was absolutely adorable. 283 00:21:40,029 --> 00:21:42,130 I used to sleep with her until I was about 8. 284 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:45,132 And my father said, "You can't sleep with Paulette anymore. " 285 00:21:45,232 --> 00:21:47,934 I said, "Why can't we sleep with Paulette?" 286 00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:51,336 Chaplin 's great recreational passion was tennis. 287 00:21:51,536 --> 00:21:55,839 Here he's about to play a charity match against Groucho Marx, among others. 288 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,641 He played almost daily on his court at home. 289 00:21:58,741 --> 00:22:02,243 It was after those matches, drinking Cokes, sharing a snack... 290 00:22:02,443 --> 00:22:05,744 ... that his friends thought him most relaxed, reminiscent... 291 00:22:05,945 --> 00:22:09,147 ...and expansive, especially about politics. 292 00:22:12,349 --> 00:22:15,451 Mankind, he thought, was being turned into animals... 293 00:22:15,550 --> 00:22:18,052 ...blindly serving the factories, the machinery... 294 00:22:18,253 --> 00:22:20,054 ... that were supposed to serve it. 295 00:22:21,354 --> 00:22:23,555 In its most aspiring moments, Modern Times... 296 00:22:23,758 --> 00:22:27,255 ... was about a Marxist concept: the dehumanization... 297 00:22:27,357 --> 00:22:29,653 ...and the alienation of labor. 298 00:22:29,852 --> 00:22:34,969 No doubt about it, Chaplin was a leftist of a devoted and radical kind. 299 00:22:36,865 --> 00:22:39,864 In fact, the first time we ran the picture together... 300 00:22:40,064 --> 00:22:44,062 ...I was so taken with it that I about fell off the chair. 301 00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:47,174 He told me later that he wondered about that... 302 00:22:48,476 --> 00:22:52,476 ...whether I was putting it on, and he said, "I soon discovered it was not so. " 303 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:59,379 Attention, foreman. Trouble on bench five. 304 00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:02,679 Check on the nut-tighteners. Nuts coming through loose on bench five. 305 00:23:02,779 --> 00:23:04,380 Attention foreman. 306 00:23:05,881 --> 00:23:09,383 Charlie did not know how to notate music... 307 00:23:09,584 --> 00:23:12,986 ...and he didn't know how to extend musical ideas. 308 00:23:13,085 --> 00:23:15,087 And they needed somebody to work with him. 309 00:23:15,286 --> 00:23:18,189 The fellows who were in charge, Alfred Newman and Eddie Powell... 310 00:23:18,389 --> 00:23:21,491 ...knew my work from New York, and they brought me out here. 311 00:23:21,691 --> 00:23:23,092 And I went to work for Charlie. 312 00:23:23,292 --> 00:23:25,693 And he really had a wonderful instinct for music. 313 00:23:25,893 --> 00:23:30,496 They were simple little tunes, and my job was to take them down... 314 00:23:30,596 --> 00:23:35,499 ...to alter them when I thought they needed altering. And that's what I did. 315 00:23:55,211 --> 00:23:58,513 We worked five days a week, sometimes six... 316 00:23:58,713 --> 00:24:02,015 ...and it was altogether quite wonderful, you know. 317 00:24:02,415 --> 00:24:05,517 He became this sort of a surrogate father for me. 318 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,621 What you feel sometimes with a thing like the eating machine... 319 00:24:11,821 --> 00:24:17,024 ...you see an investment in a prop, in a shot, in an idea. 320 00:24:17,224 --> 00:24:20,227 So we have to let this really play and we have to do it. 321 00:24:20,426 --> 00:24:23,128 And it's about twice too long, maybe, the eating machine. 322 00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:28,231 There's nothing in film like the feeding machine. 323 00:24:28,432 --> 00:24:30,833 It was just absolutely wonderful. 324 00:24:31,033 --> 00:24:34,735 The man is reduced to something less than the sum of the parts, you see. 325 00:24:34,835 --> 00:24:38,338 He's just an animal, which is being fed by a machine. 326 00:24:39,338 --> 00:24:42,340 Few people know that table, which goes around... 327 00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:46,342 ...Charlie was manipulating that himself. It wasn't somebody else doing it. 328 00:24:46,442 --> 00:24:49,944 He was the guy with gadgets underneath the table... 329 00:24:50,145 --> 00:24:53,246 ...and he would make it turn around and all that sort of stuff. 330 00:24:53,346 --> 00:24:54,947 The man was simply incredible. 331 00:24:55,147 --> 00:24:58,049 And he also manipulated that mouth-wiper... 332 00:24:58,149 --> 00:25:00,551 ...that comes and hits him in the face and hurt him... 333 00:25:00,751 --> 00:25:05,954 ...and just made his face puff up and his mouth puff up. He was amazing. 334 00:25:12,758 --> 00:25:16,360 Sometimes you feel something akin to pretension... 335 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,963 ...in the agenda of Modern Times, and it's a little off-- It's distancing. 336 00:25:21,163 --> 00:25:23,965 At the same time, when I watch Modern Times, I'll sit there... 337 00:25:24,165 --> 00:25:26,567 ...and feel slightly superior, which with a great master... 338 00:25:26,766 --> 00:25:28,867 ...part of you is urging, "How can I get a leg-up on this guy... 339 00:25:29,068 --> 00:25:30,769 ...and feel at least even with him?" 340 00:25:30,969 --> 00:25:33,070 But then there'll be a sequence and you'll think: 341 00:25:33,271 --> 00:25:35,872 "That was so smart and so efficient. " 342 00:25:38,673 --> 00:25:41,976 Nothing was smarter or more efficient than this sequence. 343 00:25:42,076 --> 00:25:44,877 The ever-helpful Tramp picks up a red flag... 344 00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:49,380 ...and before he knows it, he's innocently leading a Communist demonstration. 345 00:26:04,389 --> 00:26:06,891 There's something prescient in the sequence. 346 00:26:07,091 --> 00:26:11,193 Within a decade, Chaplin himself would be cruelly red-baited. 347 00:26:12,495 --> 00:26:15,796 In a strange way, Modern Times is a bit of a throwback. 348 00:26:15,996 --> 00:26:20,199 Because if you look at it, it's really a collection of four two-reelers. 349 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,201 The film was certainly not all politics, all the time. 350 00:26:24,301 --> 00:26:27,303 Goddard was cast as the waif opposite the Tramp... 351 00:26:27,403 --> 00:26:32,006 ...and much of the comedy was as innocent as any Chaplin had ever done. 352 00:26:36,509 --> 00:26:39,210 In Modern Times, it is brilliant... 353 00:26:39,410 --> 00:26:42,713 ...and you're following the story, and it kind of peters out. 354 00:26:42,813 --> 00:26:46,415 It doesn't go anywhere. It's just a brilliant trip... 355 00:26:46,515 --> 00:26:50,918 ...and each skit is very funny and brilliantly executed. 356 00:26:51,118 --> 00:26:54,020 And it goes along on the momentum of his genius... 357 00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:57,621 ...the fact that he's funny and the bits are funny. 358 00:26:59,822 --> 00:27:03,625 We talked politics, we talked just about everything... 359 00:27:03,826 --> 00:27:06,227 ...because he had a real knowledge of these things. 360 00:27:06,427 --> 00:27:09,329 He had a mind like a super attic. 361 00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:13,231 We went to Musso & Frank's for lunch every day... 362 00:27:13,331 --> 00:27:16,633 ...five days a week. We were driven there in Charlie's car. 363 00:27:16,833 --> 00:27:19,435 And we had a table... 364 00:27:19,635 --> 00:27:23,438 ...which was reserved for us, and we'd sing. 365 00:27:23,637 --> 00:27:27,840 There was a thing called "I Want a Lassie. " 366 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:31,842 And it was a tune Charlie knew and I knew, and we'd sing to that tune. 367 00:27:38,846 --> 00:27:42,249 And the people in the place would look and say, "What's that?" 368 00:27:42,449 --> 00:27:44,750 And then they'd suddenly see it was Chaplin... 369 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:47,952 ...and they had great prospects for their evening conversation... 370 00:27:48,152 --> 00:27:50,253 ...so they listened. 371 00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:54,456 I think people sometimes don't understand about the fact... 372 00:27:54,656 --> 00:27:57,858 ...that a man like Charlie, who was a millionaire... 373 00:27:58,358 --> 00:28:01,861 ...can do this poverty-stricken Tramp. 374 00:28:03,462 --> 00:28:06,663 Yet he did it, and there was never anything more convincing in films... 375 00:28:06,864 --> 00:28:10,866 ...I think, than the way he did it. And that's a great tribute to him. 376 00:28:11,066 --> 00:28:14,168 Despite the film's casual construction, some critics thought Chaplin... 377 00:28:14,268 --> 00:28:18,070 ... was beginning to take himself and the world too seriously. 378 00:28:18,270 --> 00:28:22,273 But still, in the end, he was able for the last time in movie history... 379 00:28:22,473 --> 00:28:25,175 ... to find an open road into a better future. 380 00:28:25,375 --> 00:28:28,476 This time with a pretty girl on his arm. 381 00:28:40,184 --> 00:28:42,285 I really still love Charlie. 382 00:28:42,485 --> 00:28:46,588 He was not just like a father to me, which he was in some ways... 383 00:28:46,788 --> 00:28:51,791 ...but I admired him very much for the constancy of his point of view. 384 00:28:52,091 --> 00:28:57,394 He really had a feeling for those who lead ordinary lives... 385 00:28:57,595 --> 00:29:01,496 ...and are sometimes shortchanged by circumstances. 386 00:29:01,697 --> 00:29:03,998 After Modern Times' release in 1936... 387 00:29:04,198 --> 00:29:07,400 ... Charlie and Paulette took a vacation cruise. 388 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:11,403 Charlie never saw a newsreel camera he wouldn 't play to. 389 00:29:11,703 --> 00:29:14,305 What was supposed to be a short Hawaiian vacation... 390 00:29:14,505 --> 00:29:17,907 ... would soon stretch into a three-month tour of Asia. 391 00:29:18,707 --> 00:29:20,608 Back home, people began to wonder... 392 00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:23,410 ...if Charlie and Paulette were actually married. 393 00:29:23,611 --> 00:29:25,411 They later claimed that they were married... 394 00:29:25,611 --> 00:29:28,313 ... though there's no record of the nuptials, somewhere in Asia. 395 00:29:28,413 --> 00:29:31,315 Still later, when their relationship began to come apart... 396 00:29:31,514 --> 00:29:34,517 ... they found themselves denying rumors of divorce. 397 00:29:34,717 --> 00:29:36,117 For the moment, though... 398 00:29:36,318 --> 00:29:39,520 ... they were obviously delighted with one another's company. 399 00:29:42,221 --> 00:29:44,523 And Chaplin was beginning to plan his biggest... 400 00:29:44,623 --> 00:29:47,525 ...and most problematic movie to date. 401 00:29:47,724 --> 00:29:51,927 The Great Dictator opens on the Western Front during World War I. 402 00:29:52,027 --> 00:29:55,229 It is Chaplin's first all-talking production. 403 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:57,530 In it, he would play two characters. 404 00:29:57,631 --> 00:29:59,532 One of them would be a Tramp variation... 405 00:29:59,732 --> 00:30:03,334 ...an innocent Jewish barber serving bravely, if ineffectually... 406 00:30:03,534 --> 00:30:05,336 ...in Tomania's army. 407 00:30:06,336 --> 00:30:08,737 -Breech secured! -Stand clear! 408 00:30:08,938 --> 00:30:11,539 Ready! Fire! 409 00:30:23,747 --> 00:30:26,348 Behind-the-scenes footage, shot by brother Sydney... 410 00:30:26,448 --> 00:30:28,249 ...has recently been discovered. 411 00:30:28,349 --> 00:30:31,651 On The Dictator, I remember, he had a thing where he pulled the gun. 412 00:30:31,851 --> 00:30:34,554 He fired this Big Bertha sort of a cannon. 413 00:30:34,753 --> 00:30:37,955 And I was out there, and I let out a big, "Ha, ha, ha! " 414 00:30:38,155 --> 00:30:41,357 And he said, "Cut, cut! " I thought he was gonna be sore as hell. 415 00:30:41,457 --> 00:30:44,359 He was absolutely thrilled that somebody laughed at it. 416 00:30:52,864 --> 00:30:56,967 Chaplin threw their famous resemblance right in Der F�hrer's face. 417 00:30:57,067 --> 00:30:59,168 His pictures were now banned in Germany... 418 00:30:59,368 --> 00:31:02,970 ...but that's not what motivated his portrayal of the dictator Hynkel. 419 00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:06,673 For his comic German accent, he drew on his vaudeville training. 420 00:31:06,873 --> 00:31:10,675 Most comedians of his era could talk "Dutch. " 421 00:31:22,682 --> 00:31:26,385 You know, I really started to see movies when I was 13... 422 00:31:26,585 --> 00:31:27,985 ...after the World War II. 423 00:31:28,186 --> 00:31:31,988 I lived in Czechoslovakia, which was occupied by the Nazis. 424 00:31:32,088 --> 00:31:36,391 Suddenly comes The Great Dictator... 425 00:31:36,591 --> 00:31:40,793 ...and there was a liberation, because single-handedly... 426 00:31:40,993 --> 00:31:46,297 ...Chaplin reduced this monster into a pathetic... 427 00:31:46,397 --> 00:31:49,499 ...ridiculous, venomous clown. 428 00:32:01,806 --> 00:32:06,209 You can say that, you know, the Allies liberated Europe physically... 429 00:32:06,409 --> 00:32:11,412 ...but The Great Dictator, Chaplin, liberated us spiritually... 430 00:32:11,612 --> 00:32:15,214 ...and made you think also, because suddenly you realized watching: 431 00:32:15,414 --> 00:32:18,816 "How is it possible that this pathetic creature... 432 00:32:18,917 --> 00:32:21,618 ...had such a power over good German people?" 433 00:32:21,718 --> 00:32:24,219 Millions of people followed him... 434 00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:28,222 ...died for him, for this insane lunatic. 435 00:32:31,023 --> 00:32:34,425 It's almost as if he made that film because he felt... 436 00:32:34,526 --> 00:32:40,529 ...that Hitler had become his rival in reaching out for everybody. 437 00:32:45,432 --> 00:32:48,034 The Hitler character, he had a strong relationship... 438 00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:53,237 ...to the early Tramp, who's a troublemaker, who's primitive. 439 00:32:53,437 --> 00:32:57,840 And the other person, the barber, is more his human side. 440 00:32:58,741 --> 00:33:02,943 It's interesting, the relationship between the two and how they get confused. 441 00:33:09,747 --> 00:33:11,948 I think it was a very brave film to make. 442 00:33:12,048 --> 00:33:15,650 I don't think that many people were being openly critical... 443 00:33:15,851 --> 00:33:19,653 ...of what was going on at the time, and he was one of the-- 444 00:33:19,853 --> 00:33:22,454 Maybe not the only one, but he was one of the few. 445 00:33:22,855 --> 00:33:26,558 Come here, you! Attacking a storm trooper, huh? 446 00:33:26,657 --> 00:33:28,759 -Grab him! -You'll hear from my lawyer. 447 00:33:28,959 --> 00:33:30,059 Come on! 448 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,661 Why, you-- 449 00:33:35,462 --> 00:33:37,664 He bit my finger! 450 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:50,072 The barber and Hynkel will eventually exchange roles. 451 00:33:50,172 --> 00:33:55,074 The Jewish barber pays a comic, balletic price for the accident of his birth. 452 00:33:55,174 --> 00:33:57,977 His creator, asked once if he was Jewish... 453 00:33:58,176 --> 00:34:02,679 ...made this superb reply, "l do not have that honor. " 454 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,284 I love the whole film, and I think that this scene when he plays... 455 00:34:09,483 --> 00:34:10,884 ...with the globe... 456 00:34:11,084 --> 00:34:16,387 ...and it's just perfect metaphor for the sick dreams of every dictator. 457 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:23,192 Out, Caesar of Nuris, emperor of the world. 458 00:34:27,094 --> 00:34:29,295 My world. 459 00:34:44,004 --> 00:34:50,408 That scene was written. Every single movement was written down. 460 00:34:50,608 --> 00:34:55,311 Whereas all the scenes where he does that pretend German were improvised. 461 00:34:55,511 --> 00:34:59,814 l would have thought that that would be written to make it sound like German... 462 00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:04,116 ...but he just apparently said to the camera, "Roll. " And then went on... 463 00:35:04,317 --> 00:35:07,018 ...and just rambled on in this almost perfect German. 464 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920 It's an idea he'd had for a long time. 465 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,022 Some smart guy said, "Oh, that was my idea. " 466 00:35:14,123 --> 00:35:19,126 But then there's actually footage of him way back in home movies doing it. 467 00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:22,227 In the home movie, he was dressed in a Grecian outfit. 468 00:35:22,428 --> 00:35:24,729 It just was so perfect for Hitler. 469 00:35:24,929 --> 00:35:30,733 The globe dance, I could watch it for hours and hours. Rewind, once again. 470 00:35:30,933 --> 00:35:32,834 It's absolutely incredible. 471 00:35:33,034 --> 00:35:37,236 Literally, I could watch it for weeks and never get bored. 472 00:35:38,137 --> 00:35:43,841 I mean, just the metaphor. It's just endlessly, endlessly brilliant. 473 00:35:46,742 --> 00:35:50,945 People just fall down dead over an alleged metaphor... 474 00:35:51,145 --> 00:35:54,146 ...but I don't find it funny or a brilliant metaphor. 475 00:35:54,347 --> 00:35:57,148 Some would agree with Woody Allen. Some would not. 476 00:35:57,249 --> 00:36:00,551 But at a time when 90% of America opposed war... 477 00:36:00,751 --> 00:36:04,453 ...and half the country was to some degree anti-Semitic... 478 00:36:04,553 --> 00:36:09,056 ... this admittedly preachy film was undeniably courageous. 479 00:36:09,156 --> 00:36:13,959 It was Hitler who seemed to be imitating Chaplin, not Chaplin imitating Hitler. 480 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:19,162 Chaplin came first. Chaplin was famous long before Hitler was famous. 481 00:36:19,362 --> 00:36:22,964 There's a little bit of Hitler in all of us. That's the whole idea... 482 00:36:23,164 --> 00:36:28,467 ...that Hitler is not some creature who came from outer space. He's one of us. 483 00:36:28,667 --> 00:36:33,371 l think the genius of the film is that Chaplin realizes a lot of Hitler in him... 484 00:36:33,471 --> 00:36:35,972 ...that there's a lot of Hitler... 485 00:36:36,172 --> 00:36:40,875 ...in anyone who dominates audiences and rouses the rabble. 486 00:36:42,176 --> 00:36:45,578 There is no doubt in The Great Dictator that he felt he had to say... 487 00:36:45,678 --> 00:36:48,479 ...something about this phenomenon, this issue of fascism... 488 00:36:48,579 --> 00:36:50,681 ...and where the world was headed. 489 00:36:50,881 --> 00:36:53,883 And when he does blatantly speak, he's the voice of a generation. 490 00:36:53,983 --> 00:36:57,285 He's the voice of several generations. What is he going to say? 491 00:36:57,885 --> 00:37:01,988 It's an imposing of a kind of self- importance. It's very dangerous. 492 00:37:02,188 --> 00:37:05,490 I happen to like the tone of his voice. I liked being with him. 493 00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:07,891 You must speak. 494 00:37:08,391 --> 00:37:12,594 -I can't. -You must. It's our only hope. 495 00:37:12,694 --> 00:37:17,197 You have a situation, World War II, and he speaks very clearly. 496 00:37:17,397 --> 00:37:20,599 He makes statements on the world and the nature of government... 497 00:37:20,699 --> 00:37:23,201 ...the nature of fascism. 498 00:37:23,401 --> 00:37:24,902 It does sound like preaching. 499 00:37:25,002 --> 00:37:28,404 lt sounds like, "They expect me to make a comment, and I'm gonna do it. " 500 00:37:28,504 --> 00:37:32,306 The people at the time said, "He's too self-important. He's got above himself. " 501 00:37:32,407 --> 00:37:36,208 I don't think it was quite that. He did take life terribly seriously. 502 00:37:36,409 --> 00:37:38,610 He thought a lot about things. 503 00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:42,712 He would get terribly troubled by things that were going on in the world. 504 00:37:42,913 --> 00:37:47,115 He was deeply distressed by the Spanish Civil War, for instance. 505 00:37:47,315 --> 00:37:51,118 He genuinely felt he got an audience, he's got to say something. 506 00:37:51,218 --> 00:37:54,319 It's not Hitler/Hynkel, it's not the Jewish barber. 507 00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:58,622 Suddenly, Charles Chaplin's face comes through. 508 00:38:01,924 --> 00:38:05,426 I'm sorry, but I don't want to be an emperor. 509 00:38:05,626 --> 00:38:07,527 That's not my business. 510 00:38:07,727 --> 00:38:10,029 I don't want to rule or conquer anyone. 511 00:38:10,129 --> 00:38:15,232 I should like to help everyone if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. 512 00:38:15,332 --> 00:38:18,634 We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. 513 00:38:18,734 --> 00:38:22,037 We want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. 514 00:38:22,136 --> 00:38:24,238 We don't want to hate and despise one another. 515 00:38:24,438 --> 00:38:27,440 In this world, there's room for everyone. The good Earth is rich... 516 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,341 ...and can provide for everyone. 517 00:38:29,441 --> 00:38:33,644 Not one word has lost its significance. It's as true now as it was then. 518 00:38:33,844 --> 00:38:37,946 Pacifist public opinion, critical hesitation, counted for little. 519 00:38:38,146 --> 00:38:42,849 In its initial release, The Great Dictator was Chaplin 's biggest-grossing film. 520 00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:45,951 In World War II, he vocally... 521 00:38:46,151 --> 00:38:49,253 ...controversially supported our Russian allies... 522 00:38:49,453 --> 00:38:55,156 ...notably, at a Carnegie Hall rally, where he followed a waffling Orson Welles. 523 00:38:55,257 --> 00:38:59,259 The next speaker was Charlie. He came out, this natty figure... 524 00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:03,562 ...walked to the center of the stage... 525 00:39:04,262 --> 00:39:05,963 ...raised his hand... 526 00:39:06,363 --> 00:39:08,664 ...said, "Comrades! " 527 00:39:10,666 --> 00:39:13,567 Well, the place came down. 528 00:39:14,068 --> 00:39:18,370 He remained what he had always been, a restless, driven man. 529 00:39:18,571 --> 00:39:24,874 But at 53, he began to find a measure of happiness when he met Oona o'Neill. 530 00:39:25,075 --> 00:39:29,277 She was 16, the daughter of the playwright Eugene o'Neill. 531 00:39:29,477 --> 00:39:32,980 A New York debutante, she was now both shyly and eagerly... 532 00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:35,481 ...seeking a career as an actress. 533 00:39:35,681 --> 00:39:41,184 For Chaplin, it was love at first sight, the last and greatest love of his life. 534 00:39:41,384 --> 00:39:44,686 Within a couple of months, she was living with him. 535 00:39:52,691 --> 00:39:56,393 This screen test for an unmade film called The Girl from Leningrad... 536 00:39:56,594 --> 00:40:00,296 ...gives us a unique glimpse of her spirit in 1942. 537 00:40:00,496 --> 00:40:04,499 Don't turn around so quick. Hey, stop. Not so quick. 538 00:40:04,799 --> 00:40:08,801 But he had recently had and broken off an affair with Joan Berry... 539 00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:11,302 ...a very disturbed would-be actress... 540 00:40:11,503 --> 00:40:14,505 ... who desperately broke into his home one night. 541 00:40:14,705 --> 00:40:17,106 I came home, he was very strange. He said, "Go to bed. " 542 00:40:17,306 --> 00:40:21,108 I went into bed, and what had happened is, she had broken in with a gun. 543 00:40:21,308 --> 00:40:26,312 He talked her out of this nonsense, and she put the gun down and left. 544 00:40:26,512 --> 00:40:30,214 He said, one day, he did the greatest piece of acting he's ever done in his life. 545 00:40:30,414 --> 00:40:33,016 She pulled a gun on him, and she was going to shoot him. 546 00:40:33,216 --> 00:40:38,519 He acted his way out of the situation till he got that gun out of her hand. 547 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,321 He could not act his way out of the law's clutches. 548 00:40:42,421 --> 00:40:45,523 Here, he is humiliatingly fingerprinted. 549 00:40:45,623 --> 00:40:49,426 The FBI had been keeping a file on him since 1922. 550 00:40:49,526 --> 00:40:54,229 For some reason, J. Edgar Hoover held an implacable hatred for him. 551 00:40:55,029 --> 00:40:59,232 The FBI conspired to charge him with a Mann Act violation. 552 00:40:59,331 --> 00:41:02,534 The law ludicrously forbade the transportation of women... 553 00:41:02,733 --> 00:41:05,636 ...across state lines for immoral purposes. 554 00:41:06,336 --> 00:41:10,938 Chaplin, here shaking hands with the jury, eventually won that case. 555 00:41:11,939 --> 00:41:16,542 Simultaneously, Joan Berry brought a paternity suit against him. 556 00:41:17,243 --> 00:41:21,545 There were two trials and countless scandalous headlines. 557 00:41:22,145 --> 00:41:24,447 Berry's lawyer had a field day. 558 00:41:24,647 --> 00:41:28,349 "Lecherous hound, Cockney cad, a reptile"... 559 00:41:28,449 --> 00:41:31,251 ... were just some of the names he called Chaplin. 560 00:41:31,751 --> 00:41:34,653 Blood tests proved Chaplin could not be the father... 561 00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:37,555 ...but they were inadmissible under California law. 562 00:41:37,655 --> 00:41:39,256 Chaplin lost the case... 563 00:41:39,356 --> 00:41:43,859 ...also lost was much of America 's affection for its beloved Tramp. 564 00:41:44,059 --> 00:41:47,361 You know, he supported that child. He didn't make an issue of it. 565 00:41:47,561 --> 00:41:51,963 He said, "Okay. " Paid for the kid, but it was not his. 566 00:41:54,765 --> 00:41:57,567 Monsieur Verdoux would deepen the nation 's alienation... 567 00:41:57,767 --> 00:42:01,169 ...despite this hilariously failed attempt at murder. 568 00:42:01,369 --> 00:42:04,171 No, he won't-- 569 00:42:04,471 --> 00:42:07,273 -What are you gonna do with that? -Lasso him. 570 00:42:07,373 --> 00:42:10,175 Don't be silly, you can't lasso a fish. Any fool knows that. 571 00:42:10,374 --> 00:42:11,775 Oh, yes, you can. 572 00:42:11,976 --> 00:42:15,078 All you have to do is to place it over his head like that. 573 00:42:15,178 --> 00:42:18,080 Then you pull it tight, like this. 574 00:42:20,581 --> 00:42:22,182 What's that? 575 00:42:22,382 --> 00:42:24,183 A yodeler. 576 00:42:24,383 --> 00:42:28,385 -Oh, that ruins everything. -Certainly does. 577 00:42:28,586 --> 00:42:30,987 Too bad we couldn't find a place all to ourselves. 578 00:42:31,087 --> 00:42:32,688 Certainly is. 579 00:42:35,090 --> 00:42:37,591 Orson Welles proposed the idea to Chaplin. 580 00:42:37,791 --> 00:42:42,794 Based on the true case of Henri Landru, a notorious French wife-murderer. 581 00:42:42,994 --> 00:42:48,398 Chaplin vastly expanded it into an indictment of bourgeois society. 582 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,601 Making Verdoux at that moment in his life... 583 00:42:54,701 --> 00:43:00,305 ...when his own morality was so much in question, was great provocation. 584 00:43:00,405 --> 00:43:04,707 It was the final pin that broke the camel's back. 585 00:43:04,807 --> 00:43:11,211 It got him into deep trouble with all sorts of war veterans.... 586 00:43:11,412 --> 00:43:15,214 And everyone, I think, came down on him for making that film. 587 00:43:15,314 --> 00:43:20,517 Monsieur Verdoux is a bank official who gets fired after decades of service. 588 00:43:20,717 --> 00:43:24,319 To support his wife and child, he takes to marrying rich widows... 589 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:26,921 ...and then killing them for their money. 590 00:43:27,021 --> 00:43:30,823 It's a black comedy by a man who actually had no blackness in him. 591 00:43:31,023 --> 00:43:34,025 I wonder how long he's going to keep that incinerator burning. 592 00:43:34,125 --> 00:43:36,427 -It's been going for the last three days. -l know. 593 00:43:36,627 --> 00:43:39,028 I haven't had a chance to put my washing out. 594 00:43:44,632 --> 00:43:48,134 It's almost a mea culpa. It's a statement about capitalism. 595 00:43:48,234 --> 00:43:50,635 It's a statement... 596 00:43:50,836 --> 00:43:54,037 ...that murder's the logical extension of business. 597 00:43:54,138 --> 00:43:58,741 That when you're out to make a living, anything goes. 598 00:44:12,048 --> 00:44:14,850 Verdoux expertly counting his money was a chilling... 599 00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:18,352 ...but well-remembered comic motif in the film. 600 00:44:18,553 --> 00:44:21,454 The Lydia scene is unique, though. 601 00:44:21,654 --> 00:44:24,656 I think that's the first murder you see. 602 00:44:24,756 --> 00:44:29,059 And going up the stairs and him talking about the moon. 603 00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,861 The elegance of the shot. And, oh, "Yes, my dear. " 604 00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:35,362 The way he says, "Yes, my dear," is like a snake. 605 00:44:35,562 --> 00:44:37,064 He's just coiling around her. 606 00:44:37,664 --> 00:44:39,265 Yes, my dear. 607 00:44:39,465 --> 00:44:43,267 And you know it's going to come down, he's going to kill somebody. 608 00:44:46,669 --> 00:44:48,971 That extraordinary moment, going up the steps... 609 00:44:49,171 --> 00:44:51,572 ...and looking at the moon outside and reciting-- 610 00:44:51,673 --> 00:44:53,874 I forget exactly the words, but about the moon. 611 00:44:53,974 --> 00:44:56,175 She says, "What are you doing?" "Oh, nothing. " 612 00:44:56,375 --> 00:44:59,978 -What a night. -Yes, a full moon. 613 00:45:00,478 --> 00:45:04,180 How beautiful, this pale Endymion hour. 614 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,281 What are you talking about? 615 00:45:06,381 --> 00:45:08,483 Endymion, my dear. 616 00:45:08,683 --> 00:45:11,185 A beautiful youth possessed by the moon. 617 00:45:11,384 --> 00:45:13,886 Well, forget about him and get to bed. 618 00:45:15,887 --> 00:45:17,288 Yes, my dear. 619 00:45:17,488 --> 00:45:21,591 And then he turns into a silhouette, goes out of frame, the music rises.... 620 00:45:21,791 --> 00:45:25,593 Her feet were soft in flowers. 621 00:45:34,698 --> 00:45:38,601 The night changes to day, and you know it's been done. 622 00:45:39,902 --> 00:45:42,503 The vulgarity of his victims is often contrasted... 623 00:45:42,704 --> 00:45:47,907 ...perhaps misogynistically so, with Verdoux's dandyish elegance. 624 00:45:48,007 --> 00:45:52,309 The next thing is followed by the comic refrain of the counting of the money. 625 00:46:04,316 --> 00:46:08,019 But it takes you by surprise because what seems simple with this man... 626 00:46:08,219 --> 00:46:13,022 ...is suddenly translated into something so eloquent and elegant... 627 00:46:13,122 --> 00:46:17,224 ...and absolutely horrendous behavior, but it's done absolutely beautifully. 628 00:46:18,225 --> 00:46:21,327 A friend has told him of a poison that leaves no trace. 629 00:46:21,527 --> 00:46:23,128 He decides to try it on someone... 630 00:46:23,328 --> 00:46:26,430 ... with whom he has no connection the police might discover. 631 00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:31,133 It is one of the moral turning points in a film that took him four years to write. 632 00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:33,934 And now for the experiment. 633 00:46:34,135 --> 00:46:36,936 Even when he says, "Now for the experiment," with the poison... 634 00:46:37,136 --> 00:46:41,439 ...when it dissolved to the young woman in the street, I was shocked. 635 00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,741 He had the ability to shock you, slap your face, then pull you back. 636 00:46:44,941 --> 00:46:47,943 You went with it because you didn't want to see him kill her... 637 00:46:48,043 --> 00:46:49,744 ...and you knew he wouldn't do it... 638 00:46:49,844 --> 00:46:53,046 ...but I was shocked by him thinking that way, "An experiment. " 639 00:46:53,146 --> 00:46:57,749 The first person you see is beautiful. My goodness, he's going to kill her. 640 00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:01,751 -Quite a shower. -Yes, it is. 641 00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:05,554 -Can I escort you anywhere? -Oh, thank you. 642 00:47:05,753 --> 00:47:10,157 It's beautiful, but it's also a very ugly film in a way. It's very disturbing. 643 00:47:10,357 --> 00:47:13,959 It's almost as if he was pushing the audience, particularly after World War ll. 644 00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:15,860 The worst war in recorded history. 645 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,764 "If I play a character like this, how far could I push you and you still love me? 646 00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:25,466 Will you still accept me? Am I even relevant in a world like this right now?" 647 00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:29,168 The criminal is eventually caught. He will accept his fate. 648 00:47:29,368 --> 00:47:31,970 But not before he broadens the indictment against him... 649 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:34,471 ... to include most of humanity. 650 00:47:34,571 --> 00:47:37,173 Humanity was profoundly uninterested. 651 00:47:37,272 --> 00:47:41,175 Have you anything to say before sentence is passed upon you? 652 00:47:43,376 --> 00:47:46,078 Oui, monsieur, I have. 653 00:47:46,178 --> 00:47:49,480 However remiss the prosecutor has been in complimenting me... 654 00:47:49,681 --> 00:47:52,882 ...he at least admits that I have brains. 655 00:47:52,983 --> 00:47:55,584 Thank you, monsieur, I have. 656 00:47:55,784 --> 00:47:58,786 And for 35 years, I used them honestly. 657 00:47:58,886 --> 00:48:02,588 After that, nobody wanted them. 658 00:48:02,789 --> 00:48:05,490 So I was forced to go into business for myself. 659 00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:09,592 As for being a mass killer, does not the world encourage it? 660 00:48:09,793 --> 00:48:14,996 Is it not building weapons of destruction for the sole purpose of mass killing? 661 00:48:15,196 --> 00:48:20,499 Has it not blown unsuspecting women and little children to pieces... 662 00:48:20,699 --> 00:48:24,101 ...and done it very scientifically? 663 00:48:24,701 --> 00:48:28,003 As a mass killer, I'm an amateur by comparison. 664 00:48:28,204 --> 00:48:30,205 It was a very interesting... 665 00:48:30,405 --> 00:48:33,707 ...disturbing touch as he walks out. 666 00:48:33,907 --> 00:48:37,809 It's like, if you watch him walk, his stomach is a little extended... 667 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:41,112 ...the walk is awkward, like a grotesque of the Little Tramp's walk. 668 00:48:41,312 --> 00:48:43,413 It really is. They lead him to the guillotine. 669 00:48:43,513 --> 00:48:46,215 It's the end of the Little Tramp, the real end. 670 00:48:49,617 --> 00:48:52,819 I can only imagine what it must have received when it came out. 671 00:48:56,721 --> 00:48:58,021 No one liked it. 672 00:48:59,822 --> 00:49:03,825 You know, as a man gets on in years, he wants to live deeply. 673 00:49:04,026 --> 00:49:08,628 A feeling of sad dignity comes upon him, and that's fatal for a comic. 674 00:49:08,828 --> 00:49:10,629 Sad dignity. 675 00:49:10,830 --> 00:49:14,032 It was a feeling that Chaplin knew all too well in the late '40s. 676 00:49:14,132 --> 00:49:17,133 He would turn 60 in 1949. 677 00:49:17,233 --> 00:49:19,235 His old genius for inventing gags... 678 00:49:19,434 --> 00:49:23,637 ...and developing them in sustained sequences had largely deserted him. 679 00:49:23,838 --> 00:49:27,139 His audience was older too and standing on its dignity. 680 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,641 They were lost to him, as he had always feared they might be. 681 00:49:30,842 --> 00:49:34,444 Calvero, his character in Limelight, directly... 682 00:49:34,544 --> 00:49:40,047 ... wearily projected his most despairing vision of himself. 683 00:49:40,247 --> 00:49:43,549 What a sad business, being funny. 684 00:49:43,649 --> 00:49:46,451 Very sad if they won't laugh. 685 00:49:46,551 --> 00:49:51,655 But it's a thrill when they do. To look out there, see them all laughing. 686 00:49:51,854 --> 00:49:55,256 To hear that roar go up, waves of laughter coming at you. 687 00:49:55,457 --> 00:49:57,858 But let's talk of something more cheerful. 688 00:49:58,058 --> 00:50:00,459 Besides, I want to forget the public. 689 00:50:01,059 --> 00:50:02,961 Never. You love them too much. 690 00:50:03,161 --> 00:50:05,763 I'm not sure. Maybe I love them, but I don't admire them. 691 00:50:05,863 --> 00:50:07,064 I think you do. 692 00:50:07,264 --> 00:50:10,565 As individuals, yes, there's greatness in everyone. 693 00:50:10,666 --> 00:50:13,768 But as a crowd, they're like a monster without a head... 694 00:50:13,968 --> 00:50:16,969 ...that never knows which way it's going to turn. 695 00:50:17,170 --> 00:50:19,271 It can be prodded in any direction. 696 00:50:20,071 --> 00:50:23,474 Chaplin 's has-been character, depressed and drunken... 697 00:50:23,674 --> 00:50:27,176 ...meets the dancer Thereza when he rescues her from suicide. 698 00:50:27,376 --> 00:50:29,977 She is in despair because she cannot walk. 699 00:50:30,178 --> 00:50:35,081 Old man and young woman will conspire to inspire one another. 700 00:50:35,181 --> 00:50:38,182 It still to me is amazing that at 20... 701 00:50:38,282 --> 00:50:44,086 ...I worked with the greatest genius in movies and had been chosen by him. 702 00:50:44,887 --> 00:50:47,888 It was certainly he that found me. 703 00:50:47,988 --> 00:50:52,291 I was a young actress. I was 19. I was in a play in London. 704 00:50:52,391 --> 00:50:55,193 And then I got a wire from Harry Crocker saying... 705 00:50:55,293 --> 00:50:58,495 ...would I send photographs to Chaplin? 706 00:50:58,594 --> 00:51:00,796 And it seemed so unbelievable to me... 707 00:51:00,996 --> 00:51:03,298 ...and I was so frightened by it, I did nothing. 708 00:51:03,398 --> 00:51:06,499 And then about two weeks later, I got a telegram saying: 709 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,801 "Where are the photographs? Charles Chaplin. " 710 00:51:10,402 --> 00:51:14,305 So I sent them off as quickly as I could, and, of course, from that moment on... 711 00:51:14,404 --> 00:51:16,906 ...I wanted to be in Limelight more than anything. 712 00:51:18,207 --> 00:51:20,308 Every day was a miracle. 713 00:51:20,508 --> 00:51:22,509 I woke up every morning, could not believe... 714 00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:24,711 ...that I was going to go and do this part. 715 00:51:24,911 --> 00:51:27,312 On the other hand, I had no film technique whatsoever. 716 00:51:27,512 --> 00:51:31,014 I didn't know anything. So he eased me very gradually into it... 717 00:51:31,114 --> 00:51:34,417 ...by starting the scenes where I was comatose on the bed. 718 00:51:34,517 --> 00:51:38,018 I got very quickly used to being filmed and being in a film. 719 00:51:38,219 --> 00:51:41,120 I liked the intimacy of it compared with the theater. I still do. 720 00:51:41,221 --> 00:51:44,423 His way of directing, from the beginning, was to demonstrate... 721 00:51:44,623 --> 00:51:46,924 ...and he would demonstrate everything. 722 00:51:47,424 --> 00:51:51,327 My hand here, there, look up, say the line, how to say the line. 723 00:51:51,427 --> 00:51:53,528 It was fine with me because I worshipped him... 724 00:51:53,729 --> 00:51:56,130 ...and I would have done anything that he wanted. 725 00:51:56,330 --> 00:51:58,531 And also, when he played the young girl... 726 00:51:58,731 --> 00:52:02,033 ...he was more young and girlish and feminine and charming... 727 00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:04,135 ...than I could ever have been. 728 00:52:04,435 --> 00:52:07,237 Sometimes he got very angry. It's his prerogative. 729 00:52:07,437 --> 00:52:10,638 Once, very much, but I think it was deliberate. 730 00:52:10,839 --> 00:52:13,140 I had this very difficult scene. 731 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,042 I now look at it and marvel that I could do it at that age. 732 00:52:16,142 --> 00:52:18,543 I'm walking, Calvero. I'm walking. 733 00:52:18,743 --> 00:52:21,445 I was terrified of it, as anybody would have been. 734 00:52:21,545 --> 00:52:24,547 So he called me into his dressing room and he said: 735 00:52:24,647 --> 00:52:27,649 "Claire, we'll just go over the words. I don't want any acting. 736 00:52:27,749 --> 00:52:29,049 Let's go over the words. " 737 00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:32,552 So I kind of went over the words with him, the scene, and he said: 738 00:52:32,652 --> 00:52:36,354 "What is that supposed to be?" I said, "That's what you asked me to do. " 739 00:52:36,554 --> 00:52:40,256 "No, I didn't ask you to do that. I want you to do the scene! I can't--" 740 00:52:40,356 --> 00:52:42,758 Whatever it was. Of course, I started to cry... 741 00:52:42,958 --> 00:52:46,260 ...which is what he was waiting for. So we went out on the floor. 742 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,761 Everybody was ready. 743 00:52:47,861 --> 00:52:52,164 They'd obviously been clued in to what was going to happen to this poor child. 744 00:52:52,263 --> 00:52:55,065 And we did the scene. It was wonderful. 745 00:52:55,266 --> 00:52:57,467 Now is the time to show them what you're made of. 746 00:52:57,667 --> 00:52:59,668 Now is the time to fight! 747 00:52:59,868 --> 00:53:02,970 Remember what you told me standing there by that window? 748 00:53:03,070 --> 00:53:06,873 Remember what you said about the power of the universe... 749 00:53:07,072 --> 00:53:12,175 ...moving the Earth, growing the trees, and that power being within you? 750 00:53:12,376 --> 00:53:16,779 Well, now is the time to use that power and to fight! 751 00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:21,782 Calvero, look, I'm walking. 752 00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:23,782 I'm walking! 753 00:53:25,084 --> 00:53:26,985 I'm walking! 754 00:53:28,386 --> 00:53:30,387 I'm walking! 755 00:53:30,687 --> 00:53:31,988 Calvero! 756 00:53:32,088 --> 00:53:35,190 He'd worked me up into that emotional pitch. 757 00:53:35,390 --> 00:53:38,792 He knew what he was doing when he was angry. 758 00:53:38,992 --> 00:53:42,594 I think he, at that point, was an older man... 759 00:53:42,694 --> 00:53:47,397 ...and had many things he wanted to say in the film about love and about death... 760 00:53:47,597 --> 00:53:50,399 ...and about his background in London... 761 00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:53,901 ...about the music hall, about something he knew well: 762 00:53:54,101 --> 00:53:56,203 A young girl falling in love with an older man. 763 00:53:57,503 --> 00:54:00,905 Chaplin, Oona and their growing family sailed for London... 764 00:54:01,005 --> 00:54:05,308 ...and Limelight's world premiere in September, 1952. 765 00:54:05,509 --> 00:54:09,911 I went before he did to set up some publicity things and everything. 766 00:54:10,111 --> 00:54:11,612 He was going to come later. 767 00:54:11,812 --> 00:54:15,615 Then he got from the State Department the right for a re-entry permit... 768 00:54:15,814 --> 00:54:18,316 ...because his whole life he was English. 769 00:54:18,516 --> 00:54:21,218 But the day he and Oona got on the boat, they said: 770 00:54:21,418 --> 00:54:25,120 "We're not going to honor it. " Well, of course, he got to London furious. 771 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,522 He sent Oona back to America, and he said, "Sell everything. 772 00:54:28,722 --> 00:54:30,924 Sell the house, sell the studio, everything. 773 00:54:31,123 --> 00:54:32,624 We're not going back there. " 774 00:54:32,924 --> 00:54:36,027 We have an idea of touring beautiful England... 775 00:54:36,227 --> 00:54:38,828 ...and going to all the historical spots. 776 00:54:39,028 --> 00:54:42,030 Naturally, we'll go to Stratford-on-Avon and elsewhere... 777 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:45,532 ...up to Scotland and Edinburgh and all that. 778 00:54:45,633 --> 00:54:50,335 This is the first time that my wife has ever been abroad. 779 00:54:50,435 --> 00:54:54,538 And so naturally, we're going to try and cram in as much as we can. 780 00:54:54,638 --> 00:54:57,340 Grand. One other thing. Would you comment, sir... 781 00:54:57,540 --> 00:55:01,042 ...on this proposed ban on your re-entry into the United States? 782 00:55:01,242 --> 00:55:04,544 I've already-- I can only reiterate what I said before. 783 00:55:04,744 --> 00:55:09,247 I suppose-- I presume that that's already been published. 784 00:55:09,447 --> 00:55:11,048 -Thank you very much. -Thank you. 785 00:55:11,248 --> 00:55:15,650 As the late Calvin Coolidge said when he terminated his presidency... 786 00:55:15,851 --> 00:55:21,454 ...embarking to go home, waylaid by one of the pressmen who said: 787 00:55:21,654 --> 00:55:25,657 "Mr. President, won't you say a few farewell words... 788 00:55:25,756 --> 00:55:27,258 ...to the American people?" 789 00:55:27,458 --> 00:55:29,459 He said, "Yes, goodbye. " 790 00:55:32,061 --> 00:55:34,962 Eventually, Charlie and Oona would have eight kids. 791 00:55:35,162 --> 00:55:38,265 The last four of them born in exile. 792 00:55:38,965 --> 00:55:41,766 Probably didn't work as hard as he did in America... 793 00:55:41,867 --> 00:55:44,468 ...but I don't think he could be idle. 794 00:55:44,668 --> 00:55:47,670 He definitely slowed down, and he'd go traveling. 795 00:55:47,770 --> 00:55:52,073 He took us on trips to Africa, to the East. 796 00:55:57,176 --> 00:56:02,879 The Chaplins settled in the Manoir de Ban in Switzerland, in 1953. 797 00:56:02,979 --> 00:56:06,281 He would live out his life here, 24 more years. 798 00:56:06,381 --> 00:56:08,483 He was never idle. He wrote scripts... 799 00:56:08,683 --> 00:56:12,385 ...rescored older films, wrote his autobiography. 800 00:56:12,485 --> 00:56:16,787 And thumbing his nose at America, fellow-traveled with the Communists. 801 00:56:16,887 --> 00:56:19,689 He even accepted a peace prize from the Soviet Union... 802 00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:23,291 ... then distributed the cash that came with it to the poor. 803 00:56:25,293 --> 00:56:29,095 He created his own demise with America, I think, over time... 804 00:56:29,195 --> 00:56:33,298 ...and was quoted as saying in a very embittered way: 805 00:56:33,497 --> 00:56:38,101 "The only thing I miss about America is Almond Joy bars. " 806 00:56:38,601 --> 00:56:41,903 Almond Joy and Mounds candy. 807 00:56:43,904 --> 00:56:46,706 Uncle Sydney, he was great. He was our funny uncle. 808 00:56:46,905 --> 00:56:50,208 He was very, very eccentric, or we thought he was very eccentric. 809 00:56:50,308 --> 00:56:51,909 He was married to Gypsy... 810 00:56:52,109 --> 00:56:55,611 ...and they lived in a caravan because Uncle Sydney never wanted a house... 811 00:56:55,811 --> 00:56:58,913 ...because he thought if he got in a house, he would die there. 812 00:56:59,113 --> 00:57:03,116 And that depressed him. He would get very depressed about a lot of things. 813 00:57:04,016 --> 00:57:07,118 And he was extremely nostalgic for the past. 814 00:57:07,318 --> 00:57:09,120 And he would watch the sunset and cry. 815 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,822 And he would look at little babies and say "Oh, if only I were that age. " 816 00:57:13,922 --> 00:57:16,524 He was really terrible. 817 00:57:18,625 --> 00:57:21,327 And he and my father had a fantastic relationship... 818 00:57:21,427 --> 00:57:25,929 ...extraordinary relationship. The ideal relationship between brothers. 819 00:57:27,730 --> 00:57:29,832 He twice interrupted his exile to make films. 820 00:57:31,233 --> 00:57:34,435 A King in New York in 1957... 821 00:57:35,635 --> 00:57:37,536 ...and A Countess from Hong Kong in 1966. 822 00:57:38,937 --> 00:57:41,339 His son Sydney worked with Sophia Loren. 823 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:44,040 Chaplin 's daughters also appeared in it. 824 00:57:44,241 --> 00:57:48,142 But like A King, it was a critical and popular failure... 825 00:57:48,243 --> 00:57:50,445 ... which deeply depressed Chaplin. 826 00:57:50,645 --> 00:57:54,147 He loved public and his kids were a great public for him. 827 00:57:54,246 --> 00:57:57,048 And if we went to a restaurant, he had an even bigger public. 828 00:57:57,248 --> 00:58:00,751 So in Switzerland we used to go to a restaurant, and he would always order... 829 00:58:00,951 --> 00:58:04,753 ...truite au bleu. It's a trout, and it's boiled live... 830 00:58:04,953 --> 00:58:09,356 ...so it sort of looks at you. And we would be horrified. 831 00:58:09,556 --> 00:58:13,458 And he'd pick up the plate and he'd take this trout and he'd say: 832 00:58:13,658 --> 00:58:17,561 "Emma, Emma, darling. " And he'd kiss the trout on the lips, and we'd go: 833 00:58:17,761 --> 00:58:19,362 "Oh, Daddy, how horrible! " 834 00:58:19,562 --> 00:58:21,864 And by then, the whole restaurant would be looking. 835 00:58:21,964 --> 00:58:24,865 So he was an entertaining father. 836 00:58:29,568 --> 00:58:32,570 His audiences now were mainly accidental. 837 00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,871 His most faithful camera was Oona's. 838 00:58:34,972 --> 00:58:37,372 But the old man would take what he could get... 839 00:58:37,573 --> 00:58:40,375 ...and do the old bits from his glory days. 840 00:58:56,584 --> 00:58:59,787 It was as though he was surprised at his own work and would say: 841 00:58:59,987 --> 00:59:02,788 "But he's good. " He would talk about him as "him. " 842 00:59:02,888 --> 00:59:08,591 "Oh, that's very good. Oh, but that's, that's very good. Oh, he's funny. " 843 00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:49,316 I never met Chaplin. And only time I saw him in person was in Cannes. 844 00:59:49,416 --> 00:59:53,819 When he was towards the end of his life, he was honored with a special award. 845 00:59:54,419 --> 00:59:59,723 I was there. The theater was packed! Packed to the roof! 846 01:00:00,023 --> 01:00:01,724 Electricity was enormous... 847 01:00:01,924 --> 01:00:05,426 ...because nobody saw Chaplin in person for years. 848 01:00:05,626 --> 01:00:07,927 And the award is given to him... 849 01:00:08,128 --> 01:00:11,630 ...by French Minister of Culture, Monsieur Duhamel, who, at this time... 850 01:00:11,830 --> 01:00:15,832 ...was also a very sick man who was walking with a cane. 851 01:00:16,033 --> 01:00:19,434 So then suddenly the light goes out... 852 01:00:19,534 --> 01:00:22,236 ...spotlight on the curtain, curtain opens... 853 01:00:22,437 --> 01:00:24,438 ...and then they are standing there. 854 01:00:24,638 --> 01:00:27,940 Theater explodes! Bravo, standing ovation, bravos... 855 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:30,141 ...one minute, two minutes, five minutes! 856 01:00:30,341 --> 01:00:35,044 Chaplin was visibly so moved by this reaction... 857 01:00:35,244 --> 01:00:39,447 ...that he felt that he has to reward the audience somehow. 858 01:00:39,647 --> 01:00:42,649 So he's looking around and suddenly he sees Monsieur Duhamel... 859 01:00:42,849 --> 01:00:44,550 ...next to him with a cane. 860 01:00:44,750 --> 01:00:47,752 So he grabs his cane and does few steps. 861 01:00:47,952 --> 01:00:51,755 But in that moment, Monsieur Duhamel, being stripped of the cane... 862 01:00:51,954 --> 01:00:56,857 ...starts to St. Vitus Dance because he couldn't-- 863 01:00:56,957 --> 01:01:01,760 Now, Chaplin sees it, and he just-- They just... 864 01:01:01,961 --> 01:01:06,263 ...clasp each other like that, embrace, just to keep standing. 865 01:01:06,363 --> 01:01:10,065 People in the audience who knew about Monsieur Duhamel's condition... 866 01:01:10,165 --> 01:01:13,168 ...were petrified. But most of the audience didn't know... 867 01:01:13,267 --> 01:01:16,369 ...and they thought that this is a comic number to entertain them. 868 01:01:16,569 --> 01:01:19,271 And they started to applaud and laugh! 869 01:01:20,472 --> 01:01:26,175 It was so surreal. It was like Chaplin's films. 870 01:01:28,877 --> 01:01:32,479 As the years wore on, more and more honors were heaped on him. 871 01:01:32,579 --> 01:01:35,281 The world was bent on reconciliation. 872 01:01:35,481 --> 01:01:39,483 Even the United States wanted to forgive and forget... 873 01:01:39,583 --> 01:01:41,084 ...and remember. 874 01:01:41,584 --> 01:01:43,486 That process was completed... 875 01:01:43,686 --> 01:01:48,088 ... when he received an honorary Academy Award in 1972. 876 01:01:48,289 --> 01:01:52,391 He did come for the Academy Award, but that was only for financial reasons. 877 01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:56,493 Because he's rereleased his pictures, and he came back and said: 878 01:01:56,694 --> 01:02:00,495 "Oh, that's very kind of everybody. " Two days at the Beverly Hills Hotel... 879 01:02:00,596 --> 01:02:02,297 ...he says, "When are we going home?" 880 01:02:02,497 --> 01:02:05,299 I can only say... 881 01:02:05,399 --> 01:02:10,201 ...thank you for the honor of inviting me here... 882 01:02:10,302 --> 01:02:16,506 ...and, oh, you're wonderful, sweet people. Thank you. 883 01:02:16,705 --> 01:02:22,109 Chaplin had five more years to live in declining physical and mental health. 884 01:02:22,809 --> 01:02:25,912 But one has to believe death held few terrors for him... 885 01:02:26,111 --> 01:02:29,113 ...because he'd long since imagined his triumph over it. 886 01:02:29,313 --> 01:02:34,917 His artistic immortality as well as the hard, simple fact of his passing. 887 01:02:35,117 --> 01:02:37,718 Both occurred in the same Limelight sequence... 888 01:02:38,219 --> 01:02:42,021 ... which he shared with his great rival Buster Keaton. 889 01:02:42,922 --> 01:02:45,123 I think he must have known he was the greatest. 890 01:02:45,323 --> 01:02:48,825 But I think he had a problem wondering if everyone else still thought so. 891 01:02:48,925 --> 01:02:52,527 I remember once, he was then very old, and I came with a boyfriend of mine... 892 01:02:52,727 --> 01:02:55,329 ...very interested in cinema. Not so interested in Chaplin. 893 01:02:55,529 --> 01:02:58,631 He preferred Buster Keaton, which was not the thing to do. 894 01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:02,233 We arrived, and he spoke with my father a bit about the silent films. 895 01:03:02,433 --> 01:03:06,236 And then he went on to talk about Buster Keaton, and my father just.... 896 01:03:06,436 --> 01:03:09,938 He got smaller and smaller and he shrunk, and he was so hurt. 897 01:03:10,138 --> 01:03:13,741 It was like someone had stabbed him. And he just became very, very quiet. 898 01:03:13,941 --> 01:03:15,641 He didn't say a word during dinner. 899 01:03:15,741 --> 01:03:18,844 And after dinner, he was thinking and he was looking into the fire... 900 01:03:19,043 --> 01:03:21,244 ...and suddenly he peeped in a little voice. 901 01:03:21,345 --> 01:03:25,848 He looked at my friend in the eyes and he said: 902 01:03:26,048 --> 01:03:30,550 "But I was an artist. " And no one knew what he was talking about. 903 01:03:30,751 --> 01:03:33,953 And then he said, "You know, I gave him work. " 904 01:03:41,157 --> 01:03:45,160 It's so moving, with Buster Keaton and him together. He's in the foreground. 905 01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,561 Your eye's on him. But he has Keaton perfectly placed. 906 01:03:48,761 --> 01:03:51,963 He doesn't diminish him at all. And it goes on and on.... 907 01:03:52,164 --> 01:03:56,767 The two of them are going. It's like jazz musicians taking off. 908 01:04:07,473 --> 01:04:08,974 It was beautiful. 909 01:04:09,074 --> 01:04:12,576 It was two men who had the greatest respect for one another. 910 01:04:12,776 --> 01:04:16,578 I personally was moved because I knew that Buster had seen some hard times... 911 01:04:16,779 --> 01:04:18,780 ...and here was Charlie, a multimillionaire... 912 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,582 ...still with his own studio and all that. And there was Buster... 913 01:04:22,782 --> 01:04:25,784 ...had had all that and lost it. 914 01:04:26,084 --> 01:04:27,785 David Thomson once called Chaplin: 915 01:04:27,985 --> 01:04:32,688 "The looming, mad politician of the century, the demon tramp. " 916 01:04:32,888 --> 01:04:34,589 A harsh judgment. 917 01:04:34,790 --> 01:04:39,792 Yet there was something demonic in him, quite visibly so in this sequence. 918 01:04:39,993 --> 01:04:42,594 He was still driven by his relentless ego... 919 01:04:42,794 --> 01:04:45,896 ...by his helpless need to dominate his audience... 920 01:04:45,997 --> 01:04:48,498 ...now indifferent, even hostile. 921 01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:13,012 If you're not curious anymore, you're not anxious to know how to grow... 922 01:05:13,112 --> 01:05:18,016 ...as a filmmaker or a writer, artist, or whatever, that's death. 923 01:05:18,216 --> 01:05:22,418 He, I think, felt that, and I think you have the results in Limelight. 924 01:05:22,618 --> 01:05:27,322 There's something brave, sublime and without precedent in movie history... 925 01:05:27,421 --> 01:05:31,424 ...about a man contemplating his own death on-screen. 926 01:05:31,824 --> 01:05:34,926 He makes a peace with it too. He accepts the passage. 927 01:05:35,126 --> 01:05:38,128 Doesn't like it, but accepts the transition of being old and dying... 928 01:05:38,328 --> 01:05:40,730 ...but also of him no longer having the energy of youth. 929 01:05:40,929 --> 01:05:44,131 When that sheet is put over his face, with that beautiful music at the end... 930 01:05:44,231 --> 01:05:46,533 ...that is the final image of Chaplin's there. 931 01:05:46,633 --> 01:05:49,735 I was fortunate enough to be in that scene, silent. 932 01:05:49,935 --> 01:05:53,437 And Buster was there. And we're pulling back... 933 01:05:53,637 --> 01:05:57,840 ...and Buster is muttering to Charlie, not moving his lips: 934 01:05:57,940 --> 01:06:01,042 "Good, Charlie. Stay just where you are. You're right in the center. 935 01:06:01,242 --> 01:06:06,245 Hold it. Don't move. Yeah, yeah, that's it. We've made it. Yeah. " 936 01:06:06,445 --> 01:06:07,846 And I thought: 937 01:06:08,046 --> 01:06:13,249 "Boy, you, Norman, have been present at a moment in history. " 938 01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:16,251 And it was just-- 939 01:06:16,551 --> 01:06:21,154 It made you embrace your whole profession, so to speak. 940 01:06:21,454 --> 01:06:26,557 You say, "This is what real greatness in this profession is. " 941 01:06:32,961 --> 01:06:37,364 The last years of his life, he very much withdrew into himself. 942 01:06:37,564 --> 01:06:39,665 It was very hard for my mother. 943 01:06:39,865 --> 01:06:44,068 She had a very hard time, really, looking after a man who'd been so vital... 944 01:06:44,168 --> 01:06:48,971 ...and such a strong presence, suddenly, really, vanishing away. 945 01:06:49,371 --> 01:06:52,173 But he seemed to be very much at peace with himself. 946 01:06:52,373 --> 01:06:56,275 He kind of slowly drifted, drifted away... 947 01:06:56,375 --> 01:07:00,078 ...and his death was just at the end of a very slow drifting away. 948 01:07:00,678 --> 01:07:03,279 His was the face of his century. 949 01:07:03,479 --> 01:07:06,181 His was the life of his century. 950 01:07:07,082 --> 01:07:11,685 Through his will and energy, and yes, genius... 951 01:07:11,885 --> 01:07:15,486 ...he encompassed, as much as one man can... 952 01:07:15,987 --> 01:07:20,089 ... the joy and the anguish of his times... 953 01:07:20,290 --> 01:07:22,791 ... their romance, their horrors... 954 01:07:22,991 --> 01:07:26,293 ...and, of course, what laughter we could find in them. 955 01:07:26,693 --> 01:07:32,097 He was a flawed man, a haunted man, a tormented man. 956 01:07:32,697 --> 01:07:36,299 Which is to say, he was only human... 957 01:07:36,899 --> 01:07:42,103 ...but with this uncanny ability to reflect and refract... 958 01:07:42,303 --> 01:07:45,805 ...our humanity back at us. 959 01:07:46,305 --> 01:07:52,903 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/7h2js Help other users to choose the best subtitles 91554

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