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it now gives me a great deal of pleasure

to introduce the panel and of course

his holiness the dalai llama

so good morning everyone and we have them wonderful

creative challenge that is to

have to pander to 10 in one hour that mean

head on the Tampa right that lined up and then we left half and half the speed

of light

from compact so

we have to be very creative that's for sure funar

up and it is about creativity and we'll hear various

aspect of creativity. and see them believing

Tibetan language days they were that the first two

creativity that comes out of investigation

a in bed into once mine creative thinking

but def so many other aspect of creativity in science in hot

meditation in neurosciences education

that the Raps is honest would like to

I ask our but leaks to expressed a few aspect

the Western aspect of creativity. before calling upon you

so we have a wonderful array of participants

professor move again man at received another price of physics

in 1969 he works now at the Center for Institute

hand is emeritus professor at the prestigious Cannes Dec

California Institute of Technology and he is among many other things the one

with discovered

the squawk ansel then

advance ego

is a tad this and then what winning educator

director of the mine site Institute and his forthcoming book

is about mine site how to develop inside

and compassion pick up Tony

as you know in the form presentations

the cesspit a teacher out of the

wonderful book of power Knoll now I'm in you

and is quite remarkable that such an individualistic society

millions of people have attempted not to identify

that legal thanks to him

and the room and

two of them here house for their fuel red and gray man and all

I think yes thing

a good deal of her what they were and what they represent I don't need to

introduce them in detail

except that they have been performing to art I

the state's and but specially

davno involved in education toda

room and creativity centre and early

childhood program in the yard

self can Robinson is a worldwide leading

educator and development of creativity innovation

he works with various governments and is professor of education at while week

in UK so he's acting far

and then is gonna miss the committee

so it is we have to travel at the speed of light i think is

proper to begin with day number five for physics

and it is possible that process again my nice

also speak this is just a few hours about rugby by the way

it's up to you though the great

museum curator wanted to the Laker want it does also

busy as the rugby player and he compared a

a modern art to the invention that the game

rugby which happened one day in the early in the nineteenth century

where the Rugby School a soccer player

picked up the ball and ran with it with the five

disregard for the rules thereby

founding the new game rugby and he pointed out that in modern art

you don't play by the rules you play with the rules and %uh that

effective for creativity %uh often that happens

that a well but safer that and theoretical science which is

can thing I've done mostly by Lloyd a

most to the challenges the scientific orthodoxy are not right and many in the

mcrae

but every once in awhile scientific orthodoxy is wrong a thumbs up

they wanted to challenge and

a the

conventions in such a case a that you must

think the following way: it's bad if you think that way your papers will be

published you will get the job done so on and so forth

the only problem is that in the cases i'm talking about. thinking that way is

actually right

though you have to go up against that prohibition

and how do you get the idea what to challenge

well it the bubbles up

from some hidden part of the human mind sometimes

other you its there's several stages to it as everybody agrees in science and in

our

and in other fields as well you have a problem you have with them contradiction

between what's available and what you need

and a you ponder that contradiction and try to get out amid

and after a while country for the conscious thought doesn't do any good

but somewhere out of sight in some deeper part that the human mind this

process

the search continues and one day

well cooking or che being or running more

sometimes by as the butter the correct answer may come to you

that happened to me once with the turn I was giving a lecture on way some idea

would work

and I made a mistake the turn

I had something that didn't work though

it is that same deeper by the human mind is

presumably involved in the search for

how to educate the heart a the

search for

forgiveness a compassion

a is a

something that surely in the involved at least occasionally

these apart for the human mind that is somewhat outside

conscious awareness so there's possibly related

between creative thinking in art and science in another field on the one hand

and the search for compassion forgiveness

and so on and the other so

you spoke of compassion and education does other

to Center team of are getting so compassion

we need to be creative even revolutionary about compassion if we

king of the challenges of the modern times

the short term but the economy the middle term of the quality of life

and the long-term the environment does that seemingly incompatible

except if you have to tread of altruism

of consideration for others that prevent you from cheating other

in economy that will make you consider the quality of life

of those you work with and that we read a good to consider the future generation

saw your work as a psychology for the Terrapins

hardy you bring compassion and others life

and also in education thank you

I'm first both an honor to be here with I love my esteemed

yes in the love you and with your holiness I'm

what I'd like to do trade creatively as I'm recovering from laryngitis

so I'm very aware

my internal up imposed to call

so I will say very slowly named

on my mind but it very much relates to

p up what you're asking met you about um

by the way the doctor told then don't speak the whole week

yes because I said right you know so

here's what I'd like to just presented as take on Fox about that

that compassion and creativity

are healthy for the brain and that

in education we have focused

on the basic skills in reading riding

enrichment which set up a pattern

for the brain to learn things in a very fixed way

and we give those skills in modern education in

most schools maybe not the blue school but in

in most schools now

when I'd like to propose is that they're worth three other basic arms

%uh reflection where we look inward

and realize that with out an active effort to train them on

then the brain is it gets past seven or eight years a page

begins to get fixed in its way of seeing things

as eckhart has taught us with the power now it starts to believe that the

thoughts

are the identity of the person and as that happens the brain is a natural

tendency to imprison us

in this false believed

that our thoughts or feelings are that whole amor identity

and in many ways creativity is

imprisoned as well because one way

of

one-way at the last time I spoke with his holiness we're told

when the translator begins to speak you stop and the clock keeps on turning

mmm the way it is not fair to give you can't follow

the next thing you're saying ok

so anyway so the the idea here is that creativity

emerges from novelty and it is exactly as doctor Gelman was saying

I'm it was scientific orthodoxy that the brain didn't change after childhood

but now we know that certain factors beyond just

exercise I help us keep on growing our brains and that includes novelty

so we realize that creativity is really a part

%uh creating novelty for the brain it's about keeping the brain growing not just

in childhood

but throughout the life span so reflection allows you to go inward to

get beyond

the fixed ways of thinking it's the first thing but then I want to talk

about relationships because this is the first moment

I've been able to actually address his holiness directly since

in a prologue last year you ask us a question we run a panel together

see the compassionately and you challenge

assess for scientists Richie Davidson was one of them and emailed saw police

lieberman myself

you challenged us in a very

provocative way saying the head you in religion

have not been so effective with it was theistic religion

or non theistic religion to make the world a kinder and more compassionate

place

and you suggested that in sin

we should look for a secular ethics that could promote compassion

so ever since we had that communication have not stopped thinking about that

and its challenge my fixed ways of thinking as a scientist and as a

position

in this address is your question met you to now give you a response

and the question for you your holiness one thing then emerged with the idea

that if we start see

compassion and creativity

as forms a brain health or brain hygiene

then perhaps we can introduce to education

and then make it a standard practice in all societies a practice a brush in your

brain

every day just like we brush our teeth so that we would have a formal

for example everyone knows you brush your teeth every day

not once a month not once a year but if we had a former mine training

that was about reflection it would promote

compassion circuits in the brain it would liberate creativity

it would keep the brain young and in many ways

it would develop another ours we have reflection in relationships like the one

I started with you when you encourage us to think about that

you have resilience so in all these ways we can promote creativity compassion the

world they go hand in hand

I'm by promoting kinda training that allows us to look inward

and liberates us from the way the brain falsely creates identity

and keeps us seeing things through very narrow lenses

will begin open them why and feel the freedom

love seeing life is it really is and connecting with others in a deep

compassionate and kind way

so you're reading this you often

expressed views about what will be required

in modern education to really bring start

good human beings so good you share your thoughts with us

bud his education is one of the main topic of our

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creativity debt i think im

really did more

intelligence although i Tim

a other special other species to Mama's

also to some G

certain to people creativity

for but compared with human being

much much less why interest citing management

creativity something secretive Newton Newton you would

so does I think mainly did

intelligence compassion

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its qualities

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we have a city but nature

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of creativity is down but then

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i'd think its decision walk

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the easy no problem

then maybe creativity also

me women sleep contrast

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more to good use then is our intelligence

become much more Cooper active the

and also I Tim

so I think the factor to tool

to bring creativity one

check another

experience past experience denmark also I did and it doesn't affect a

for creativity maybe hundred-degree

if there is no contradictions and creativity may not develop

soak up to cripple force

external better all mentor met

meant 11 dour country if you look if you remain just like that

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to DPDT response

cadet then tried troops in this house

districts so that maybe I don't know mine my knowledge with limited

I don't with that's compassion

are compression as I mentioned earlier

as a riche morning express

recent but

the real issue creativity I think differently

not that it in day

that means I feed compassion

a or denmark also like to

creativity dell also can be a

one produced a gritty one unrealistically 22 also to

uniting most cases I

unrealistic for King is usually

study really sticky

maybe generally speaking

more possible Boston means

in dissent her anything as you want

even use it want to harm other

the matter should be gts-t den more effective

so the whole the city in order to develop

released little to approach

the leash have to

no ya truthfully in order to

no yonder to fully objecting at 22 he said

vintage whatever reason

our mind important yeah a passion

works compassion

open on mind and then

of my mental state remain calm

and with dad from interstate

you can't see did reality

more too much emotion a new constitution your

so dat mean maybe some connection but otherwise these two things on

creativity mainly due to a deep divisions and

compassion

managed to all to on pot I think to

separate I don't know I

so if I

constructing creativity

has to be at June to reality that means

the minor for should stop distorting reality

we should bridge the gap between the waiting said Kia

and the way things are that means anyway in mind as to remain

in its natural state and shot of to upstage

citing ECA maybe you could tell us if you think of how

creativity would arise from in mind that is not

completely distorted by meant that construction

we started of by the talking about the genesis of

rugby and

when I'm heard something just

came to mind a news item that I listened to

few days ago on my and His Holiness his favorite news channel on which is to BBC

world news that I listened to every day anti

dirty fuels listen to that there was a news item

on the BBC the BART

soccer football soccer

person there and for researchers had looked

at phenomenon in soccer that is called

i'm relieved the penalty shootout

so I haven't watched a soccer game in about 20 years so I only have a vague

recollection of what that means

its often the decisive moment in the game

when one player is selected to

third tried to cake this

Bollinger the goal a must be better expressions for it

just call and decision on almost pressure at that moment on this player

everything depends on age to his whole nation sometimes is watching

and so it's of incredible importance

not on a costly scale but on the relatives hand

and soul the

lay X researchers examined what happens when the referee

whistles and then that is the signal for the player to showed

and those players who do not cause

who immediately showed after they hear the whistle

army much less likely to score then those players who

when the whistle goals they don't immediately juditha

3 45 seconds even more when they

become stable and then

it happens and the likelihood of scoring is

infinitely greater then those players who do not stop

at all this one you you ask for an explanation

more people will give some kind of mental bobble explanations they want

they concentrate that gives in a moment of contemplation

but what does that mean when we say they concentrate for a moment

what the question i'd like to ask is what happens

in that moment of

going within

so the end the attention which is

usually would be on the desired outcome

and the pressure the attention on the sale from me

I have to perform that the attention is taken away from all that

and the the there's a redirecting

of attention into the depths

and sold it at that moment I believe

because I'm to million with that process bit gassed believe it is the bases of

the creative process

added it in football and soccer it is the rudimentary

expression of the creative process redirecting

of attention within way you touch

deeper layer deeper level of him being

and that is the well all power resides

and when you touch that power at that moment

the whole whole conceptual things in

including the concept of me conceptual self

goals this simply a deep

intensely alive still miss and also alleged illness comes the

power and that power is not my Apollo

know your power it just universal power and that power

then can either become a masterful cake

of the ball or it can flow into

other channels added it can become

be belong into foam it could be a mental

I believe that also scientist after they've done a lot of thinking

as you mentioned there's a moment of

cessation of thinking and of in that moment

of stillness and stillness is not just the absence of thinking there is a power

in the stillness

the is non conceptual intelligence

in the stillness intelligence when we measure intelligence with

IQ test all we measure is conceptual intelligence

but they is a Boxster much faster intelligence in every human being

it is non conceptual not words and concepts

week it you can't analyze it but everybody has that

within potentially and I believe that is the souls of creativity

now this does not mean that when I A

and ass to kick this fall

& score goal that's I go deeply within

and it's going to happen now why doesn't it happen

I've I've on deeply with a and I've contacted the saucer column

and it's not working porn

or if they asked me to come up with the great theory of Physics

okay I'm going to become stale and then perhaps

theory of relativity or something all the unified field theory

all the on such a everything is going to come to me it's not because I don't know

anything about physics

do

soul it can on a car there must be a vehicle

that is ready for for the power to flow into

the vehicle could be the the human mind

there must be something that

is has already been prepared for that in the world of all

soul and this is my son researchers have found

I read it recently in a book called out Elias that

in to to achieve proficiency and become muster

call it something one prerequisite here's

is they called it 10,000 also practice

okay edsall ten thousand dollars practice

then the possibility arises that the vehicle is ready

to be research the receptive the power of creativity

education I

the Wii Shop or Paris is that education we had then

provide for their children to become good human beings

to have confidence in life and

to have happiness flat it seems and education does almost everything except

that

boosting intelligence an adventure information so how do you solve that

in fact minutes

I'm trying to shake off this image

all eckhart on the football pitch

and I really rather I think it off but

and the referee blows the whistle

an act of like 10,000 hours

and he still misses today

what he say

and I want to just pick up on something

the Dalai Lama said and actually that's something I've always wanted to say

that

which is this power

Paul creativity is unique to human beings

that the prior power which is the parent imagination

which is what many were where this comes from which is the ability to bring to

mind things around present

on mean if you take

a small child into the garden if you have one

and point at the moon

the child will look at the moon if you take a

a dog into the garden and point to the moon

the don't we look at your finger and

that

and wonder what your problem is exactly with

no we all belong

with the capacity to project ourselves into other places

to imagine forwards and backwards

to conceivable pass to conceive a future

and not just long future but many features not just one pass but many pass

eckhardt work is about telling in the present but it's not only about that

it's recognizing the real power comes from

recognized there is only this present moment problem

i think is that that power has to be cultivated

creativity is a step mom that

cuz you can be matched it all day long and never do anything to be crated you

have to do something

and it's a very practical process it's putting your imagination to work

its so to speak applied imagination and it depends on skills it depends on

training it depends on confidence and it depends on knowing things she said

and of me and in education

I think a mistake is made in believing that you just have to

allow people to be creative at you have to help people

to be creative have to teach them it's like saying we hope you'll all be

literate

and good luck with that you know they hear the case the library your callers

you know you need to be helped and facilitated that with all processes

you need teaching and mentoring for it happen and this is why I believe we have

two big problem right now

which is that all children are born with immense crater

potential much more than that dogs and

I mean other animals may have something like imagination creativity but they

show no signs within the way that we do look at the building where and

look at the conversation we're having I mean other animals may

feel elated but they don't write poetry you know

they may get depressed but they don't listen to Miles Davis and drink Jack

Daniels

you know we do

am and the problem is

that these capacities like literacy need to be cultivated

and its essential they do from humanity

and it's essential because the sort futures that we face these the powers

that would deliver as into the future

or I think make a stumble in the face of it and current systems education

do the exact opposite our current systems education

are routed in the idea that education is really about learning

facts and information primarily propositional knowledge

which is important but there's no space for people to develop their real

creative capacities it's not my fault

teaches I don't think but we have education systems which were

rooted in the principles and ideals of industrialism

they were designed to do particular things and that based on standardization

and so far encouraging creativity

the whole emphasis is on knowing certain things and getting them right

there's one answer and it's at the back and don't look

because that's cheating

and don't talk to anybody else because that's cheating to I'm outside the

stores that's cool collaboration

but inside stores

now

and I think this is a fundamental issue of human rights it's an issue all

economic and development at an issue this occasion about communities

and that means we have to look hard curriculum

in most schools for example the arts which are not the only salsa creative

thinking sciences

hugely crated give me credit anything but some people think in the way the

Arts

facilitate and if that's the way they think this is a tough world for now

because they get cut out

am and assessment

is really now focused entirely on the process standardization

and education has become the past two months and the only way to revive it is

to personalize it

I don't think there's a kid in Vancouver

to get outta bed in the morning wanting what he or she can do to raise the

province's reading standards

you know they no call me I'm at your disposal

you know they they will read if they're encouraged and engaged to read

so somewhere along this process for investor education with lost sight

at the heart of Education which is the mines and hopes and aspirations have the

students who pass through it

and we have two revive that if we're to

not just say that education but help our children prosper

and I think that's what's so compelling about the work at the blue school

and that's what's so compelling about what we've heard about compassion

creativity is one of my Nexus abide is

which will delivers a more humane education that we don't just need that

our children are yearning for

sold

could I add a word to those wonderful remarks absurd and robbins

a education professor once remarked on the fan that

created the and used far more into

problem formulated that it doesn't do problems I'll

problem formulation is often by far the trickier part

and schools

he remarked the education professor rely

schools almost the only place where the problems are all formulated for you

have you learned problem formulation

in the conventional school it's a

that the place where creative thinking really comes in

and we need far more exercised

in that then merely in problem solved

yes

so Matt and Chris Ware we have seen me

the performance we act %um heard you

explaining what you mean by creativity but for the sake of this

had how would you greenpeace has the what is missing in education

to your work well up

first I wanna say that arm sometimes we used to say that when we first got

called in blue

up and if we thought we were gonna make a living from their

they would have put us in a padded room and prone waiver K

and as I sit here this hauling ass

and some the greatest minds from planning

I'm so home but I'd say if we had

when we first got balkan grew said we were going to make a living and be

sitting here

they throw away the key melted down crime that up to

blender by the you know

our job I feel is

now to translate olive way

you said about creativity in the process and working the mine

into the classroom and apply it to the actual

education have the children arm

okay you said something very just

came home for us the other day morning sessions

about teaching awareness and so

a that's something that we're very much

trying to do with with the home

doctor then you feel with the help of Sir Ken Robinson

said on our board of advisors maybe we can all be on the board

the visors if you don't mind after the session with

but this awareness

I first home we feel like

creativity has to be sewn into every single part

the educational process we feel like social and emotional learning

not a separate subject but part of everything

so then the skills and embassy

the skills of compassion are all sewn into your literacy in your man

in your social so as strong as anything

are and and and and thats

how teaching to the whole child up

you know might happen and so %um

it it's not the easiest path

truly to take even least 10 minutes

each own this incredibly profound and intelligent

thinking and make it happen in the classroom

I but through teaching

children have their own mines were awareness

to their own process awareness to creativity awareness to

how they treat themselves how they think about us we're hoping

that these children

will come out with the special skills that we're gonna need

tomb are build a harmonious and sustainable world

which is what the mission in the blue school is so that's our home

I did its

I since we're talking about compassion just one at that the

iPhone that we blended was a prop

with

so they are 16,000

young children who will hearings on S

in one out time and this is very very very very close to king of education

that's what is on this week do

inspired them and we have to if this

to the next Friday to again no collectivity

bidding at the speed of light so at the conclusion

his own issue often speak of intelligence

and the formation in education as being tools

hammer can do the house and

and destroyed so you always been stressing

out to introduce more even bad news

in in education so could you as concluding

port she remind us of

what are your views Han more than that

what's missing in modern education and what could be added two more than

education

now we are in

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memory what happened into century a

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at in order to be this century

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meaningful dialogue you must respect others liked

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acted last two centuries effectively

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stem inward

too much stress hours for safety

or too much creativity also used in billings

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reduce competition that's backed isn't it are

I feel bottle competition you booked so in a newbie

this model safety that all the facilities to

but mentor too much stress

daschle and

ruthless of competition brings suspicion discuss

from even with a one-handed

first

question for certain time

pretty happy then huge distrust both sides

too much Sep said that attitude Duke

did sold

my family problems individual broken

now detracting from someone Japan up

I was told among student a young student up

how r many key

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I can these cases and his kiss on the Stephen

shows us me to you

value long grisly the dish logically

we have physical material

provide physical Cup not meant to help

so on Armada education seems to see

them very much stress on the

focusing focusing the median

to gradual development citing

I'm in engine time about

well up because I'm not expect the the

but up II just uses it heard from since

someone from here from here from hell for me to

all dusted my the arbitration that

not only did not issue some sturdy like that

so doubtful I heard

him up housing years ago this separate

education institution stock at that time

more Marshall between modern

talk modern education yet

d and I mean responsibility

digging Cal more it takes church

so at that time maybe solution

more it it's church live up to

be in development newly

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lost some to neck in education feed

so it really did key factor to bring

had be a human society hatfield so

so they're not something lacking so that

I think we need specialist than you

nutz these people Massimo study more

the social work and then made call

crucial ideas up a poster up sometimes

in your room born in America

many cases in India also I expression

these things but at the moment is the people

written for you agree but nothing happened

so now I'm hoping now time is running out

great Sosa some Hawkins total

proposal also to ideas should should not expect from me

no I don't know energy red so see

those educated people those

professors I think for I think now

I'm used to speak with those young people so

these young people parties year people

this century we hear bronze goaded into century

now they are ready to say goodbye told people

before all plan on goodbye see

we must show some retractable guy

to the next contestant

because the traffic position for the next batter

who will give place today thank you

what a wonderful

session your holiness you have really challenged us

and we have just a few minutes waiting for our panel

to get there belongs on because there weren't enough to see

have to change so I want to take this opportunity

to share with you a story of another piece

lauria keno I the last few days we've had the luxury yeah

the benefit having so wonderful

so many wonderful nobel Peace Laureates with us for this

peace summit starting with yourself

but I wanted to share with you another story ever peace laureate who is

Canadian

canadian peace laureate

who received the Nobel Peace Prize in nineteen

fifty-seven a former

Prime Minister have Canada Lester Pearson

mmm and when he accepted

the Nobel Peace Prize 50

over fifty years ago he challenged the world

by saying that we needed to seek peace in the world

and that it was a task we were doing badly

and here's a quote

can I have to but he said at that point that gramm

fact is that we prepare for war

like precocious Giants and for peace

like retarded pygmies

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now we have to forgive him 40 maybe what we would see today is being politically

incorrect

but his words

today I believe are as relevant as they were fifty years ago

why is it why is it your holiness

that we spend billions of dollars

and huge resources to prepare for war

and spend so few dollars

and so few resources and so few so little energy

in our education our research

are inquire re in preparing for peace

if you think about science and the use of Science

whether its quantum mechanics certain nuclear physics and the

building up weaponry and satellite technology and

I'm all for science believe me

but where are the arts and the humanities and the understanding that

needs to be developed

to allow us to know what it means to be compassionate

how to be kind how to be empathetic

I believe there's a science there and I think

you do too and I know our panel

this morning is going to take up from the 2006

I meeting on educating the heart

where you challenged us just as you did this last panel

he said we now know why

we must do it we have to get on with how we're going to do it

and I hope today's pan

on all will help us answer the house so I'd like to introduce our panel

I

up

them Steve

so we're so please your holiness to have

5 incredible intellectual experts with us

this morning and I'm going to give a very brief introduction because I know

our audience is already red I the precis in the bulletin but I would like to

welcome to my right steven covey along

was steven is recognized as one of Time Magazine's 25 Most Influential Americans

anything respected leader authority

family expert and author having written

The seven Habits of Highly really affected people

connected even is the Dell Diamond

adele is one of the founders up the field up development

cognitive neuroscience and holds the Canada

research chair professorship in that field at the University of British

Columbia

prior to have to my left

Mairead Maguire Mary

is a call recipient up the Nobel Peace Prize in 1976

she was responsible for call founding the peace people Northern Ireland every

salted

in a number marches demanding an end

to the violence in northern ireland

Clyde hurts man clyde is director of the human Early Learning Partnership for

help at UBC

and holds the Canada Research Chair in population health

and human development

and Kimberly Schoener raichel

cam is a former teacher for troubled children and youth

and is now a professor and education at UBC she spent the majority of her

academic career

conducting research aimed at understanding

the ways in which children's empathy and compassion can be cultivated in schools

so perhaps I'd like to start

your holiness and asking you

what role you think education might play

in helping us prepare for peace

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so this is very concerned is

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so these things through education to end

wonderful on trade

want to turn to my education experts here

Clyde Inc Eminem after them first Clyde

what role do the schools have

in educating the heart and can you give us some examples of things that might be

happening and then

kim chi name what's your experience been here in Vancouver and across the

province and throughout the world and what can we

help in terms of guiding and moving this agenda

educating the heart forward will

its your holiness since you were here the last time

you out challenged us to stop talking and start acting

and so over the last few years we've been trying to mobilize

the schools in British Columbia to focus on social emotional learning and to take

seriously

educating the human heart one other ways

we've been trying to do that is to get the whole education system

to recognize that educating the human heart problems starting

right at the very beginning of life because

as children develop vision

as they develop hearing and touch and speech

particularly the century parts of those

I'll develop connections with the DD

structures in the brain that got to do with whether or not we feel like we

belong

or whether or not we feel threatened and so that children who grow up in

environments

which are threatening really see what's up angry faces where they deal with lots

of

this kinda touch rather than that kinda touch

admin their shouted at and so forth by the time they reach school age

their brains are actually gifford from children who have grown up

here in strong yeah I emotionally accepting

environments such that basins threat

for others don't they see track brothers don't

and that means that there are huge barriers to them becoming compassionate

citizens

have the sort that you just described so one of the things that we've done

over the last few years as we've worked with all the kindergarten teachers in

this province

so we're talking about several thousand kindergarten teachers

when children at age five getting them

to look at the Stade children's development are they physically

aggressive

are the AM happen helpful and so forth and provide that information so that we

can actually map home

the contour soberly social and emotional development for all the neighborhoods in

the province

and we've done this 13 twice three times so we are the first jurisdiction in the

world

that is thoroughly now the feeder early social and emotional development

in

in what we've discovered is that in some neighborhoods in the province

only two or three or five percent of the children have a worrisome state of

emotional development by the time they reach school age

but in other areas it's 25 or 30 percent in its totally avoidable

and so we are working now in the preschool period with the family

strengthening programs and the be

criteria for quality child care to get those things in bed early

and then working with people like him to transition into schools and mainstream

these kind of ideas

so Kim how does that transition take place and what's happening after this

after this the children reach school all and that

title experiences that you think might make a difference

well your home yes it's an honored to be here again with you to talk about

education at the heart n

when think the Clyde talked about is that there to be children who come into

school

with problems and but we don't want to give up hoping for a while

forget it they've come kinda damage what we know is that schools as you've said

educational play a powerful role and one thing in British Columbia and which

we're very lucky

is that the promotion of social and emotional learning is prominent

is part of the goal education so in 2001

social responsibility is one of the four goals education in British Columbia

in addition to reedy writing

now and social them the parts have SOC responsibly that schools promote

in include things like create contributing to classroom in school

community

solving problems in peaceful ways practicing democratic

rights and responsibilities and value we

at valuing diversity in defending human rights

so one thing that has been very easy for us to do

am in your last challenged Western you I think you told us just get to work now

in 2006 six and start doing that

a lot has happened here there are many initiatives across the province

which really are focusing on educating the hearts of children

and programs that bring in mind for attention awareness programs for

teachers

even a teacher training program now for pre-service teacher education programs

to help them learn the strategies

to educate the heart of children

I want to know the city

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Andrew Sullivan what differences

does student who happened at energy education

%uh that program and those student who

possible to death penalty education want out

p.m. you know we've basically been doing a lot of researches you know science

very important and we are finding differences in terms of children who

receive these programs develop

and fifty altruism compassion and even do better in school

so we know there's a lot of things that happen by educating the heart

and educating the mind together wonderful

other

education which is family

and the role families might play and I know steven you are an expert

on that and maybe you could share with us some other things that you think that

the

there the role the family the type that education learning that takes place

there in terms of educating the heart

formal

fundamental and most important

organization in the world and that's where most believe will

fundamental education takes place so I suggest

we have a call me at nine song and I have a family of nine children

and 51 grandchild that if you ask me

law one plane has made a huge difference

its the development a family mission statement

and we put ur

literally on and the ones rest or their

put on their ankle and

a family mission statement basically weenie server

God by serving others so it gets them into the

pick up service and

into the character development of

subordinating themself me

to the idea of we

what the Dalai Lama just talked about

so that you moved from independence

to interdependence and a high level of collaboration

sold to me that it's been the most significant

one single thing that we have done

the second thing very practical I finish training

Indian chiefs that run indian nations in North America

at in Mexico United States and Canada including First Nations

and after three days

training they gave to me especially a

is called an Indian Talking Stick

is about this high they put my name on the back side

they call me mall a No yeah

even though I did a lot of

special load ryan that morning for extra wide

anyway I'm

the idea is very very simple this was taught by

the iroquois federation to the founding fathers

love United States the ideas

that you always given first to the other person and I cannot say anything

until you feel understood which stirs up

empathy impacted listen so you get inside your frame of reference

India mein and into your heart

it I really understand not only what you said

know how you feel about what you said and I can't say anything

and tell I have done this then you pass it back to me

now it's my turn to express how I see it

and how I feel about a as this goes back and forth

between us creativity is only

and you come up with a third alternative solutions

not my way not your way

and not a compromise but a new way that we have created together

and that automatically begins to develop

spear up interdependency and collaboration

and cooperation and profound respect

for other people and so

I'm I teach this wherever I go

this is another

form opinion Talking Stick you could use a pencil you can use a piece of paper

the object is valuable simply because

you do not get it back and cannot express yourself

until that person gives it to you mean

I feel understood and both levels

compassion that the Dalai Lama just talk about are developed in this way

through impact a glistening

and trying to understand

deeply when a person says and what they feel about what they say

so we focus a great deal on

both to develop in a mission statement

the we all participate in creating

it took us eight months to create this

we serve God by serving others

and the

may seek approach that we use to develop us

is Indian Talking Stick communication maybe I could ask you steven

to hand at Talking Stick to it down

sir

reading this conversation because its holiness is going to have to leave us

very shortly

to go and educate the hearts up sixteen

thousand young people in a

we conference so I wanna be

have way to get we get both about their speakers to share with us

and i wanna change the focus a little bit the individual and how does the

individual

learn without necessarily going to school or

counting on their family and tell you once said that you thought that

people who are the happiest are those who make others happy

and I'm wondering if you could share with us some of your ideas about

how individuals can achieve that and then that to ask me read

kind of the same question in terms of how in terms of what you found

your experiences how do you draw upon yourself to become compassionate what

you

what do you the not from others but

internally how do you learn internally how to be compassion

to be joyful and to live in the moment I'll

Talking Stick moving back and forth on

your holiness you'll remember for Doc from Damansara

that I am very interested in practical in moving beyond

words and if we want to educate the heart of children

we need to start with us with you and I because children learn what they'd lived

it's very nice to tell them things in school but what they learn

up from the examples to the people around them so we need to start with us

and it doesn't have to be big thing she could be when you leave today

you let another car merging from India or

it could be on and just I am

saying thank you to somebody in the store who was serving you with the

people clean your office

they ought any

number of things you can do little things you can do that teehee

help you and help the child now your holiness is set

if you want others to be happy showed the compassion

if you want yourself to be happy show others compassion

and is profoundly the net but you often don't realize it unless you experience

it

because before you experience it you often think it's a zero-sum game what

i'd give you I'd lose

and I have to got to a lot to give to you

and what she'd do it and you realize how

incredibly happy it makes you just just saying hello to a stranger on the street

seen everything smiley you makes you happy and so you get so much back from

doing that and

on I have a proposal for the school's a British Columbia

there we have a competition each school at the beginning of the year

for the children to use their creativity to

crude to think outside the box to think up ways that they can help

other people they could make the world a better place it could be at the level up

less

a greater school and then all the relevant people the children

the be teachers the janitors the people who work in them

and cafeteria both I what they think is the best plan and then the children

doing

they may create the possibility %uh doing it

whether it's helping people across the world are helping your school

and then at the end of the year they can be awards

but not only the brightest the best that we but the teacher this

into have shown that most kindness shown the most impassioned

anything come not only from the school but kinda

I go beyond its where the profit

kids %uh awards for this not only two children but adults

and not only to the fancy people who are leading the Burg a

but to the no name people who don't have fancy degrees a fancy positions

but in their everyday life are doing things to make the world a better place

and I think my university the University British Columbia

could get in the act and offer scholarships a thousand dollars

to any student who's won this award from their school

and I'm gonna be quiet to give time

this little your button I'm getting

very very significant signals that we need to

law the I you want

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the feeling inside we have this energy and this

me to be loved just to be

staff didn't just for somebody to reach like this

my and accept this and perhaps the hardest thing for any parent

as to accept their child

child with the pot and Zack I'm not wanting to control

on to dominate and perform them into being

sucks sass well in the world

hidden

to me our kids be like us

you know what every single individual

and create I'm new repeated be

with tremendous potential and our children the greatest gift we can

get them isn't allowed them to be yourself night we are called to be

helping human beings

first calling in life to be hopping film

joint cool human be wouldn't be all the rage

all the age and never known what I would be to be fully

allied I'm not like any other skill

are geared there are steps to being helped by

after all then I might be the best offer

we spend our being the best signed Santa

how many are still we spend on this is not a selfish thing

because if you are not within yourself properly and compassionate can

enjoy this you cannot give this to your children are

anyone trying to get shoulder happiness cart

with any and there are steps to help in this

what do you think 45 6789 10 and you can be

a joyous but

because

we talk be ours we never taught

our children are now online in our schooling system

the most important thing hardened deal with the emotions inside this

the desperate fear desperate anxiety

the desperate need to some hard that ended this word

how do we deal with those crucifying

a motion which stop us being compassionate

good when you're and p.m. it's like having a toothpick

you can't reach out to others a compassionate because you're so

frightened

and here up people who are different people who are more

educated dunya because you are so

in should cheer and lonely in here

the journey is a PM fearful

lonely journey and the

only way we can help gonna help let the children coming into sector

word the only way we can help them through done

journey is to help bill understand

that we all have these emotions we r all upgraded

alright we're all anxious we wonder

with say the wrong word and get embarrassed what people say

that the emperor has no clothes

you know I think overcoming these emotions

fun the education system starting from the children were young

and the home to learn to be popping

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