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The first issue is what the goal of the United States should be.
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I believe that the goal can be nothing less than victory.
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What is involved here is, in effect,
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to let the Red Chinese know in Vietnam as we,in effect,
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let Khrushchev know in the confrontation in Cuba that the United States
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will not stand by and allow any power,
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however great, take over another country by aggression.
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A retreat by the United States from Vietnam would be a Communist victory,
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a victory of massive proportions and would lead to World War III.
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By early 1968,
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America had dropped almost three million tons of bombs on Vietnam
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twice the tonnage dropped on Germany and Japan in World War II.
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America was trying to stop North Vietnam from sending soldiers and
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supplies to the South, trying to force the Communist leaders in Hanoi
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to give up their long-held goal of a unified Vietnam.
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After the impact of the 1968 Communist Tet offensive,
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President Johnson ordered a bombing cutback and peace talks began.
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We all went and stayed in hotel rooms rather than renting apartments
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or finding other kinds of long-term accommodation.
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It didn't occur to any of us at the time
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that five or six years later there would still be a delegation in Paris
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still going over very much of the same ground.
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So, I would say that when we first arrived
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there was an atmosphere of heightened expectation, of early progress.
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The Americans brought in South Vietnamese government officials.
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The North Vietnamese brought in the National Liberation Front,
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the Vietcong, the Communist-led movement in the South.
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The negotiations, one could say, were very stereotyped
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and were not negotiations in the classic sense of the word.
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There wasn't the kind of give and take
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that you would have in a labor negotiation or a business negotiation
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in the United States, or for that matter
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even in a more normal international negotiation between governments.
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They tended both in public and even in private,
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I should say, to follow a very set pattern.
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One side or the other would make a prepared statement
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and then the other side would reply with a prepared statement
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and then we might adjourn for a break and have tea and some refreshments,
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and then there would be a little bit of give and take.
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As the diplomats haggled over the political implications
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of the seating arrangements,President Johnson prepared to leave office.
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We want peace very much.
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We've been doing all we could for several months to try to bring about
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some kind of an understanding that would result in substantive discussions
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and ultimate settlement of the Southeast Asia problem.
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A few days before the American presidential elections,
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Johnson halted all bombing of North Vietnam.
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Never has so much power been used so ineffectively as in Vietnam.
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If after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice and all of this support
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there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come
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for the American people to turn to new leadership,
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not tied to the policies and mistakes of the past.
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I pledge to you we shall have an honorable end to the war in Vietnam.
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This time vote like your whole world depended on it.
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By a narrow margin Nixon won.
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The 1968 Tet offensive had hit South Vietnam's cities and towns,
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but now the main fighting had shifted back to the countryside.
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More than half a million American soldiers were still in Vietnam.
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Four years since American combat troops had landed in Vietnam.
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The densely populated Mekong Delta was still far from pacified.
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During the first six months of 1969,
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an average of more than 800 Americans were wounded each week.
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Each week more than 200 Americans were killed.
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Each week more than 450 of their South Vietnamese allies died alongside them.
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Each day more than 500 North Vietnamese and Vietcong were counted dead.
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In July 1969, President Nixon had good news for the troops.
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They could soon go home, and leave the fighting to the South Vietnamese.
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He called the policy "Vietnamization."
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The policy of Vietnamization was to turn over the responsibility for
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the ground combat and air combat to the South Vietnamese.
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It was a policy of giving them the equipment and the training
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so that they could follow up their responsibility to their country.
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You cannot guarantee the will and the desire of any country,
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but you can give them the tools to do the job.
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The Saigon administration faced a new political challenge
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the Vietcong pro claimed themselves the Provisional Revolutionary Government.
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America was still committed to troop withdrawals.
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We made up our minds from the beginning
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that we were going to try to disengage from Vietnam.
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And, all of the debate afterwards were really about,
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with the moderate critics,were about rates of disengagement,
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not about the fact of disengagement. So it had to be a high priority.
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The pressures were on as far as the American people were concerned.
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The pressures were on as far as the Congress was concerned and,
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if we wouldn't have moved in the direction of Vietnamization,
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our whole military force structure would have been destroyed
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in the United States and we would not have been able to
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meet the NATO commitments and the other commitments
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which were treaty commitments that had been made but,
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had been made by the American government.
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The major preoccupation of Kissinger and Nixon was U.S./Soviet relations.
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They believed that world peace depended on
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getting the Soviet Union into a relationship with the United States
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so that it ceased to do things which threatened American security interests.
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And, it was in this context that they approached every issue
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from the Middle East to China to Vietnam.
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Vietnam was important because the United States had made it important.
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Kissinger was always fond of saying that
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we inherited 500,000 troops in Vietnam.We didn't put them there.
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"Home, I'm coming home, coming home,
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For the cameras, U.S. troops celebrated their departure.
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"Home, I'm coming home, no more marching and fighting for me.
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I am a soldier, a coming home soldier, no purple heart do I wear on my chest.
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I am a soldier, a coming home soldier,
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no purple heart do I wear on my chest.
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I'm coming home, I'm coming, I'm coming home, I'm coming h-o-m-e."
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As the American troops left, Nixon stepped up air and artillery attacks.
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Hundreds of miles of tunnels were dug to shelter factories and homes.
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The songs and poetry of Ho Chi Minh promised victory and independence.
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The Americans and the American-sponsored government
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in the South would be defeated.
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Korean, Australian, Thai and other troops would be driven out.
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"We will rebuild our land ten times more beautiful," claimed Ho Chi Minh.
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He was really very ill by the end of 1968.
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It was very difficult for him to move about.
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And yet Comrade Ho Chi Minh patiently continued his exercise and his walks.
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Early in 1969 he was still visiting the villages
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but his health deteriorated after that, although he still continued to work.
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Ho Chi Minh died on September 3, 1969.
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He said that he was only going to visit Lenin and his other predecessors.
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And by the word "predecessors" he could have meant that
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he was going to visit past Vietnamese leaders.
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Vietnam's Communist Party leader, Le Duan, delivered the eulogy.
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This was so painful to the nation and to me personally
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that I cannot find the words to describe it.
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But to us, it was not just a painful event.
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We also faced the problem -- how to continue his work,
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how to accomplish all the things he wanted us to achieve.
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American troops, some just returned from Vietnam,
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were deployed to Washington
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to protect the capital against anti-war demonstrators.
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Peace now, Peace now!
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Nixon and his aides, claiming that anti-war critics were
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helping the Communists, ordered illegal wire taps
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and drew up a list of their domestic "enemies".
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"All we are saying is give peace a chance" -- Are you listening Nixon? "
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In a single Washington demonstration,
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a quarter of a million Americans denounced the war.
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Are you listening in the Pentagon? "All we are saying...
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" -- Are you listening Nixon?"Hanoi radio publicized the protests.
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If 200 people marched on Washington, they made it 200,000.
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We learned how to deal with the numbers.
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Of course, every protest, every anti-war speech made by a person
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such as McGovern, Jane Fonda, Galbraith,
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all of those only encouraged the Vietnamese, prolonged the war,
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worsened our condition and cost the lives of more Americans on the battlefield.
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So many people in and out of the government,
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and certainly I would put the media at the top of the list,
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seem far more concerned about the lives of the people in Southeast Asia
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than they were the lives of the young men that were fighting for their country.
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Let me give you an example of this: For instance,
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when I was describing the torture that was being inflicted
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on the POWs in North Vietnam,
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I've actually had the American citizens tell me,
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"Well it serves them right -- they had no business volunteering."
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Defense Secretary Laird was ahead of the timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal.
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By April 1970, he had reduced the forces in Vietnam by more than 100,000.
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Nixon had resumed full scale bombing of the North.
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American generals had asked Laird to endorse a major offensive
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against Communist sanctuaries in Cambodia.
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They said it was vital to a continued U.S. force reduction.
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Laird opposed the use of U.S. ground troops.
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Nixon made the decision.
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I have concluded that the time has come for action.
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Tonight American and South Vietnamese units will attack the headquarters
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for the entire Communist military operation in South Vietnam.
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This key control center has been occupied by the North Vietnamese and
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Vietcong for five years in blatant violation of Cambodia's neutrality.
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This is not an invasion of Cambodia.
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The control center was never found. The action further divided America.
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All Americans may not agree with the decision a president makes,
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but he is our president.
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Evangelist Billy Graham, an old friend and supporter,
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who once told Nixon: "It is your destiny to be president."
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Mr. President, we welcome you and Mrs. Nixon.
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Three weeks earlier, four students had been shot dead by
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National Guardsmen during demonstrations at Kent State University in Ohio.
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Campus protests reached a peak.
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Polls showed that a majority of Americans supported administration policy.
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But opponents continued their protests,
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harassing Nixon wherever they could.
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One, two, three, four, we don't want your fucking war...
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If we're going to bring people together as we must bring them together,
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if we're going to have peace in the world,
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if our young people are going to have a fulfillment
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beyond simply those material things,
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they must turn to those great spiritual sources
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that have made America the great country that it is.
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I'm proud to be here and I'm very proud to have your warm reception.
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"God bless America, land that I love, stand beside her, and guide her,
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through the night with the light from above.
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This is NBC News.
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I propose that all armed forces throughout Indochina cease firing
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their weapons and remain in the positions they now hold.
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This would be a cease-fire in place.
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I do not minimize the difficulty of maintaining a cease-fire
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in a guerrilla war where there are no front lines.
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But an unconventional war may require an unconventional truce..
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Our side is ready to stand still and cease firing.
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By implication, a cease-fire in place would leave
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North Vietnamese troops in the South.
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Hanoi's leaders did not respond.
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In Washington, impatient senators urged ending the war in nine months
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in exchange for the release of U.S. prisoners of war.
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The only possible excuse for the continuing discredited policy of Vietnamization,
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the war, now and in the months ahead seems to be
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the President's intention to play his last great card
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for peace at a time closer to November 1972.
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I cannot, I cannot believe and I do not believe
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that most of our countrymen believe,
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that a plan for peace necessitates bombing four countries,
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invading two, in order to get out of one.
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There are many who today are disenchanted with the conflict.
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There were very few at the outset, either Republicans or Democrats,
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who opposed the ever deepening involvement;
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indeed, who did not support or acquiesce in it.
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Anti-war sentiments grew among academics and opinion leaders.
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The New York Times published the stolen Pentagon Papers,
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a secret history of official war decisions.
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We went into Vietnam on the wheels of the same policy
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and for many of the same reasons
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that we had gone into Korea a decade and a half earlier.
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We did so, however, almost as an habituated response
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with far less understanding of the actual situation in Indochina,
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unmindful of the changes in this nation,in Asia and in the world.
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Vietnam was a mistake, a tragic mistake.
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To persist in it now is to add outrage to the sacrifices of those
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who have suffered and who have died in this conflict.
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To persist in it now is to do violence to the welfare of the nation.
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Nixon's envoys were a familiar sight on Saigon's boulevards.
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But behind the diplomatic rituals, Henry Kissinger concealed from South Vietnam
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that he had been secretly meeting with the Communists since August 1969.
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Even top U.S. officials had been kept in the dark.
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My first inkling of the secret talks came from conversations
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that I had quite regularly on the secure telephone circuit
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with Phil Habib who was the head of our,or the acting head of
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our delegation in Paris that was meeting with the Vietnamese.
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He and I comparing notes on various things that were occurring,
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came to the conclusion that
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there must be some secret talks taking place elsewhere.
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Our conclusion, just from the way in which things were evolving at that time,
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was that they were being carried on by Henry Kissinger.
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The adversary in the secret talks was Le Duc Tho,
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a member of North Vietnam's ruling Politbureau.
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Le Duc Tho had a tendency to make the same speech every day,
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months on end, and it was sort of like a prayer session
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at the beginning of a meeting, and it meant,
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what it symbolized, was that they had all kinds of time,
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that we were going to have to collapse
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long before they would even think of yielding.
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From Peking, a television spectacular -- a diplomatic bombshell:
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Richard Nixon, honored guest of the nation
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he once accused of fomenting aggression in Vietnam.
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With Mao Zedong, the Communist leader he once reviled.
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Relations between China and the Soviet Union were in shreds.
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But both gave aid to North Vietnam.
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Could Nixon widen the rift to America's advantage?
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Before China's revolution, China and Vietnam had been traditional enemies.
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Could China be induced to abandon the North Vietnamese?
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Mr. Prime Minister, our two people tonight
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hold the future of the world in our hands.
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And as we think of that future, we are dedicated to the principle
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that we can build a new world.
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Nixon offered the Chinese trade, recognition, a counterweight to the Russians.
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China's isolation was coming to an end.
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We have been here a week...this was the week that changed the world.
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On March 31, 1972, the North Vietnamese
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launched a new and ambitious offensive.
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Deploying tanks and large troop units,
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they poured directly across the 17th parallel into South Vietnam.
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Refugees and South Vietnamese troops fled before them.
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By April 2, the Communists had conquered half of Quangtri province.
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By May 1, they had taken it all.
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After the North Vietnamese had taken Quangtri we had a meeting
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in May 1972, which we had negotiated to arrange for months.
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When I arrived there all he did was read newspaper accounts to me.
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When I said I didn't have to come thousands of miles
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and negotiate for five monthsa meeting to hear newspaper accounts
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he said, "If they're true, what difference does it make?"
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The South Vietnamese Army was in disarray.
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In Washington, President Nixon searched for a response
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that would not require American combat troops.
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I was called by the President and he questioned me
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about the prospects of mining Haiphong harbor.
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And...which I told him we were already ready, all ready for that,
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as a matter of fact, by the first time I had recommended it,
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and I personally made the plan myself when I was
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commander-in-chief of the Pacific Fleet eight years before.
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So there was no planning necessary. We already had the plan.
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And consequently his next requirement was to ask me
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can we do this without it leaking?
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Because I would like to be on the -- announcing it to the nation
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on T.V. at the same instant that the bombs were falling.
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Nixon mined Haiphong harbor and stepped up the bombing.
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Nearly a thousand U.S. aircraft pounded North and South Vietnam.
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The North Vietnamese offensive was blunted.
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Then we resumed negotiations.
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Le Duc Tho was much easier to deal with and made many more concessions
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after that than he had made in the years before that.
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Twelve days after the mining and the bombing,
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President Nixon was received in Moscow.
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Brezhnev's reaction to the bombing of Hanoi and the mining of Haiphong
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was very tough in rhetoric and really inconsequential in action.
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He made many tough statements but he never did anything.
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The fact that the Soviets received us after the intensification of
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the war on North Vietnam must have contributed to the sense
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of isolation and beleaguerment of Hanoi.
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The Nixon-Kissinger global strategy was intact.
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The United States and the Soviet Union signed a strategic arms control treaty.
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Nixon faced re-election. The war in Vietnam dragged on.
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The North Vietnamese clung to a key demand
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that the Thieu government in Saigon must be dissolved.
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Then, after more than four years of fighting and talking, a breakthrough.
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On 8 October, 1972, Le Duc Tho have make a proposal.
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In this proposal we have dropped the demand
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for the dissolution of the Thieu government
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and we propose to have the two governments in South Vietnam coexist.
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They dropped the demand that Thieu had to resign on October 8,
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I believe it was.
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At any rate, whenever they put forward their comprehensive proposal.
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And that, as far as we were concerned, was the breakthrough.
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I think that the principal element that we brought to it was that
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we were prepared to settle for a cease-fire in place,
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and the return of our prisoners of war in exchange
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for the removal of our military forces.
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As you recall...
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Peace seemed near. Nixon turned against his critics.
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As you recall, I made the decision to mine the harbors,
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to bomb military targets in North Vietnam.
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That decision was the right decision.
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Those who predicted that it would lead to the dissolution of the summit
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the leaders of the media, the great editors, and publishers
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and television commentators and the rest -- proved to be wrong.
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When that decision was made there was precious little support
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from any of the so-called opinion leaders of this country
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that I have just described.
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But what was the most heartwarming thing to me
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was that those who had so much at stake,
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those who had suffered so much, the great majority of those
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whose husbands and loved ones are now POWs or MIAs stood by
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that decision and I thank you very much for that support.
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Nixon sent his diplomats to Saigon with a text of the secret agreement.
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We say, fine, you know, thank you, could, could we see the text?
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And, we want to have time to study the text.
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Of course, they gave us the text in English,
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and at that time I thought I say,if our opposition knew that,
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that right this moment we were discussing the fate of a country
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in a text in English, boy, you know,
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it would be so bad that we shouldn't even think about it!
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So I ask, I say, where is the Vietnamese text?
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Oh, we forgot, and I say, what do you mean, you forgot?
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The other side, I know they don't present a text to you in English.
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You know between Vietnamese, we know each other,
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you know, there is something called national pride,
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and you present your own language.
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They say, oh this is good translation, and we have our own translators,
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I don't know what the name, what is the name of the guy he gave;
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I say, you mean to tell me an American is, you know,
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understand Vietnamese better than Vietnamese?
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We want to see the Vietnamese text.
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The atmosphere in Saigon when we brought to Saigon
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the draft of the treaty that we had negotiated
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with the North Vietnamese was very, very tense and very unpleasant.
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And this I ascribed to the fact that it came pretty much
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as a complete surprise to the South Vietnamese.
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They had been briefed in very general terms in the preceding weeks and months.
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But no one had ever been so explicit as to show them
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significant drafts of treaty language.
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We realized that this is a very bad document to start with;
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number two, it did not change in any way the Communist position,
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it was just worded differently.
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Number three, the fact that the Americans, you know,
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presented to us and told us it was best they could have obtained
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is very ominous, because, it means that
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the Americans are out to push us to accept that.
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They raised the issue of North Vietnamese troop withdrawal
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and asked why that had not been dealt with in our document.
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The South Vietnamese government never did accept to
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have the North Vietnamese army stationed in South Vietnam,
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nor was it resigned to the fact that
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there is nothing that could be done about it.
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All of the proposals that we made to the North Vietnamese
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were seen and approved by Thieu.
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So that was not a new proposal by us in October of '72.
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We say, well, you know, I'm ready for any contingency,
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but we're not going to sign it, so please go back to Mr. Nixon,
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tell him that we're very sorry we cannot cooperate on that one.
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Unable to persuade the South Vietnamese to sign, Kissinger returned home.
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The North Vietnamese, fearing that the settlement was in jeopardy,
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made the agreement public.
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For a moment put yourself in the North Vietnamese shoes.
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They had gone through this entire negotiating process,
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they had reached agreement with us.They had even begun
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giving instructions to their cadre to prepare for a cease-fire.
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Some of the North Vietnamese leaders might have begun to think
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that they had been the victims of the biggest con job in history
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and that we had simply led them down the garden path,
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and then we're going to welsh on the deal.
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Kissinger tried to reassure America and both Vietnams.
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We have no complaint with the general description of events
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as it was given by Radio Hanoi.
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However, there exists...there grew up the seeds of one particular misunderstanding.
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The North Vietnamese negotiators made their proposal conditional
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on the solution of the problem by October 31.
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We did agree that we would make a major effort
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to conclude the negotiations by October 31.
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As far as Saigon is concerned, it is of course entitled to
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participate in the settlement of a war fought on its territory.
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Its people have suffered much and they will remain there after we leave.
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We believe that peace is at hand.
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I think the speech..."Peace is at hand,"
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is first of all for the voters in the United States,
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to say to them that the Vietnam question is no more,
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there is no more Vietnam question,
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so they can elect Nixon as a hero of peace.
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As expected, Nixon won by a landslide, but faced a hostile Congress.
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The negotiations resumed as Le Duc Tho returned to Paris.
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He faced 69 changes demanded by South Vietnam,
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presented by Kissinger and Alexander Haig ,
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among them ,the demand that North Vietnamese troops leave the South.
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I presented Thieu's list of changes which he had whittled down
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already in Saigon because I felt I owed it to him to go through them,
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and frankly to demonstrate that most of them were unattainable.
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Kissinger flew to Florida to see Nixon,
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worried that the negotiations might collapse. He spoke of resigning.
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The North was again intransigent.
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In South Vietnam, too, the agreement was still unacceptable.
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In order to reassure Saigon,we had launched a major resupply program
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called Operation Enhance Plus where we provided several billion
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additional dollars of military equipment to the Saigon government.
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If, in the Politburo in Hanoi, it had been a close decision
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in the first place to enter into this agreement,
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perhaps after the developments of October and November
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they were having real second thoughts.
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The North Vietnamese engaged in a number of dilatory tactics.
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One of them was the question of tying the release of prisoners of war
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to the release of civilians in the South, but there were others,
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all of which generally reneged on arrangements that
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they had previously made and which were significant to the text
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and to the integrity of the document we had negotiated.
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In the South Vietnamese Parliament President Thieu
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denounced the agreement before U.S. Ambassador Bunker.
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Consequently, the essential basis is first,
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that the North Vietnamese troopsshould withdraw totally to North Vietnam
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and the internal political solution of South Vietnam should be left for
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the South Vietnamese people alone to decide between themselves.
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we are not continuing a war in order to give total victory to our allies.
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We want to give them a reasonable opportunity
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to participate in a political struggle,but we also will not make a settlement
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which is a disguised form of victory for the other side.
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After October, Kissinger refused to go back to Vietnam, so Haig came,
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and we were told countless times by him, by Ambassador Bunker,
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that we should modify our position, we should do this, we should do that
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they had obtained some changes, you know, to please us,
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but they couldn't get everything we wanted.
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We said, "Well you know there are still some substantial issues
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that are not resolved, and we are not going to sign it."
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And when we were threatened of brutal reaction, we said,
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"Well, we know what brutal reaction means. We accept that."
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At that time, it was a calculated move from our part.
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We said, "All right, if we were the U.S. side, they have two options:
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either do something drastic in South Vietnam, or bomb the North."
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In Paris Kissinger's talks with North Vietnam seemed to be collapsing.
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We told them several times.
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We warned them that our president would resume bombing of the North.
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They seemed not to believe the nature of this threat.
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They seemed to believe that the President would be inhibited from the bombing
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because the electoral trend in the United States had brought in a Congress
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that was going to oppose bombing and because the general attitude,
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as demonstrated in public opinion poles in the United States,
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was opposed to resumption of the bombing.
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North Vietnam's leaders made ready for the anticipated attack.
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Hanoi's population, swollen with refugees from other bombed towns,
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had to be evacuated.By December 16,
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one third of the estimated population, half a million people, had left.
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On December 18, B-52 bombers were over Hanoi and Haiphong.
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For miles and miles you could see the little firecrackers
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like going off and it was very distinct,
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very obvious that those were SAMS being shot up,
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and as you got closer they just started going up around you.
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And at first you were very afraid
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because you wanted to move away from every one you saw,
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but after you calmed down and realized,
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sure there's a SAM and it's going up,
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but it's going off there and you kind of ignored it.
486
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It took a little while to get used to that.
487
00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:17,150
We heard the bombs start hitting and we thought this is
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the first time they bombed the North in a long time.
489
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The fighters hadn't even been up for some reason.
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Well, then when we heard the bombs start landing half a mile
491
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short of the prison and walk right by us in a string
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We knew it had to be bombers because fighters don't carry that many bombs.
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And the jubilation was unbelievable.
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Guys jumping up and down and clapping each other on the back.
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People hollering and shouting and the Vietnamese guard excited
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and poking his gun in the door and telling us to get under our bunks.
497
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:58,230
One of them looked in the door and said,
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"You know, they are trying to kill you."
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I said, "They're not trying to kill me, they're trying to kill you."
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00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:12,210
The targets selected in the 1972 Christmas bombing
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consisted entirely of military targets.
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For instance, they would consist of warehouses,
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command and control stations,missile sites, ammunition storage,
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communications sites, things of that kind.
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00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,890
The accusation that we were conducting carpet bombing,
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of course, is absolutely false.
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For that matter, had we conducted carpet bombing,
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I think that there wouldn't be a Hanoi today.
509
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:49,980
On December 22,
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American bombs hit Hanoi's Bach Mai hospital for a second time.
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Their target may have been a small airfield nearby.
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Cries and moans filled the dark night.
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We had to use knives,hammers and shovels to break through the concrete walls
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in order to get to the victims trapped inside.
515
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:27,720
As a surgeon, I operate on people to save their lives.
516
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Now I was using my surgical knife not to save people
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00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:37,390
but to cut apart the corpses in the bomb shelter
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00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:40,580
so we could rescue those still alive.
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00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:49,520
The President ordered a one-day bombing halt for Christmas Day.
520
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On December 26, the B-52s resumed their missions.
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The massive new raids had personally been ordered by President Nixon.
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His main concern, he said, was not domestic and international criticism,
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00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:21,370
but high B-52 losses.
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00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:27,880
Some of the bombs hit a Hanoi residential district, Khan Thiem.
525
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The North Vietnamese believed that the raids were a deliberate act of terror.
526
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The shelter collapsed on me.
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00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:39,900
The next morning, I was taken to the hospital.
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00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:44,690
Only later on did I learn that five members of my family had been killed:
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my mother, my sister, and her husband, my older brother, my younger brother.
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00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:59,000
The most heart-breaking sight was in Sonquan alley.
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A whole family of seven--husband and wife and five children--had been killed.
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00:46:04,070 --> 00:46:08,010
The oldest child was 20 and the youngest two.
533
00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:10,690
The whole family was wiped out.
534
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,500
It was extremely painful to see.
535
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:16,900
The site of their house is still an empty lot.
536
00:46:16,930 --> 00:46:22,380
What an outrage! A family of seven completely wiped out.
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00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,970
The 11-day Christmas bombings were compared to
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00:46:30,010 --> 00:46:32,730
the atomic blast on Hiroshima in World War II.
539
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but the targets were more dispersed. The deaths were far fewer.
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In Hanoi they totalled 1,318.
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Nixon was of the view that something shocking had to be done.
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That was not my view at the time, but I didn't disagree with it,
543
00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:59,290
and I went along with it and I think Nixon turned out to be right.
544
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,860
After the Christmas bombing, the first day
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that Le Duc Tho and Kissinger had met in Paris, after shaking hands,
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00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:17,170
Kissinger had told Le Duc Tho that "I am very sorry.
547
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:24,240
I could not prevent the decision of the President
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00:47:24,270 --> 00:47:27,510
in bombing North Vietnam on Christmas day."
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00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:33,880
So Le Duc Tho say that: "I know who are responsible.
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00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:38,530
All you are responsible. And you are criminals."
551
00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:42,450
Publicly, he refused to shake hands with me, and in all the pictures
552
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,830
that were taken, he never appeared with me.
553
00:47:45,870 --> 00:47:50,550
But inside the negotiating room, he moved at tremendous speed
554
00:47:50,590 --> 00:47:55,290
and with as much human warmth as he was capable of
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00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,450
generating towards a representative of the capitalist system.
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00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,100
It was a very somber meeting.
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00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:07,900
No jollity, no joking as usually went on, and whenever points were pressed
558
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:10,480
and we seemed to be at a point of suggesting
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00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,430
that our patience was running thin,they either made a concession there
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00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:17,120
or moved rapidly onto something else and set that aside.
561
00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:24,900
On January 11, Kissinger cabled Nixon that the agreement was ready.
562
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:29,670
The terms were almost identical to those laid down in October.
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00:48:32,330 --> 00:48:36,140
Le Duc Tho and the North Vietnamese were prepared to sign.
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00:48:36,180 --> 00:48:40,360
The agreement affirmed that South Vietnam
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00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:42,750
was one country with two governments.
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00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:45,720
There were to be moves toward reconciliation.
567
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,320
Prisoners of war would be released.
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00:48:48,350 --> 00:48:50,520
American troops would leave.
569
00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:53,700
Northern forces could remain in the South.
570
00:49:00,820 --> 00:49:04,890
President Nixon sent Alexander Haig and John Negroponte
571
00:49:04,930 --> 00:49:07,600
to Saigon with the news of America's decision.
572
00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:16,410
We made it quite clear that this time we really planned to go through
573
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,630
with signing the agreement whether they intended to join us or not.
574
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:46,870
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord..."
575
00:49:46,910 --> 00:49:50,310
Lyndon Johnson, the president who had first sent U.S. combat troops
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00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:52,140
to Vietnam eight years earlier,
577
00:49:52,170 --> 00:49:55,070
died the day before the agreement was signed.
578
00:49:55,100 --> 00:50:17,130
"...coming of the Lord...he is trampling out the vintage
579
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:27,440
where the grapes of wrath are stored...
580
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:43,840
He hath loosed the faithful lightning of his terrible swift sword..."
581
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,470
Fifty-eight thousand American troops had died in Vietnam.
582
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:09,990
On January 27, 1973, all parties signed the peace agreement.
583
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,000
Hanoi celebrated with fireworks.
584
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:24,080
It was also Tet -- the Vietnamese New Year.
585
00:51:24,110 --> 00:51:28,740
But to the North Vietnamese and Vietcong, the struggle had not ended.
586
00:51:28,770 --> 00:51:31,380
Vietnam was still divided.
587
00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:42,160
The war we have fought for so many years continues.
588
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:47,960
It is the same war for peace, and at the same time for independence,
589
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:51,740
freedom and the peaceful unification of our native land.
590
00:52:01,690 --> 00:52:05,440
Nearly 600 American airmen had been taken prisoner
591
00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:06,910
during the course of the war.
592
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:10,730
Many had been held in what they called the "Hanoi Hilton."
593
00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:12,850
Now they were going home.
594
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,980
The Vietnamese photographed their departure.
595
00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:19,750
They called the film, "Goodbye Uninvited Guests."
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00:52:57,910 --> 00:53:01,630
North Vietnamese prisoners were also being released.
597
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:21,400
As they crossed the river that divided Vietnam,
598
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:24,300
they discarded the clothing issued to them by
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00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:26,440
the South Vietnamese government they had fought
600
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:30,130
a government whose future was still in doubt.
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