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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,798 --> 00:00:21,198 after my son was shot my whole family 2 00:00:17,719 --> 00:00:23,000 became targets for the British army they 3 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:27,009 would ask them their name and address 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:30,550 and whenever they would say who the were 5 00:00:27,009 --> 00:00:30,550 there were beat up 6 00:00:30,609 --> 00:00:36,200 Ireland is one of the very few places 7 00:00:33,049 --> 00:00:38,899 that democratically and peacefully voted 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:44,630 itself out of the empire and it did so 9 00:00:38,899 --> 00:00:50,060 by a majority or in excess of 85% of the 10 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:52,760 electorate partition occurred when the 11 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:54,679 Irish nationalist movements frustrated 12 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:58,390 at the inability to get independence by 13 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:58,390 peaceful means for a war of independence 14 00:00:59,219 --> 00:01:06,299 an artificial end today has been created 15 00:01:02,820 --> 00:01:10,680 which has imprisoned both Catholics and 16 00:01:06,299 --> 00:01:14,850 Protestants and a very info and and very 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:18,540 bitter web of history the British 18 00:01:14,849 --> 00:01:21,329 government created a six kind estate by 19 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:23,368 carving out from Ireland the largest 20 00:01:21,329 --> 00:01:27,539 land area in which it would be possible 21 00:01:23,368 --> 00:01:31,140 to maintain in perpetuity a majority of 22 00:01:27,539 --> 00:01:35,689 Protestant loyalists that then created 23 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:38,700 an impetus of which forced those people 24 00:01:35,689 --> 00:01:41,819 to set up structures which would ensure 25 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:44,368 their domination in perpetuity military 26 00:01:41,819 --> 00:01:47,399 structures legal structures economic 27 00:01:44,368 --> 00:01:50,640 structures of discrimination I was born 28 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:53,250 I have been born and and mr. Cadiz and 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:57,359 I've lived with intimidation on my life 30 00:01:53,250 --> 00:02:00,420 and discrimination because job weighs a 31 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,709 josue her sways and educational ways 32 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:04,319 ways 33 00:02:01,709 --> 00:02:06,509 I was always discriminated against I was 34 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:08,759 classified and was always a worry that 35 00:02:06,509 --> 00:02:11,370 of the second-class citizen and my own 36 00:02:08,758 --> 00:02:12,809 country I think it's really inherent in 37 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:15,330 the nature of the state that was set up 38 00:02:12,810 --> 00:02:16,979 on a sectarian headcount it was set up 39 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:19,110 in a situation where the majority of 40 00:02:16,979 --> 00:02:21,299 people in Ireland didn't want this state 41 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:23,190 a very big minority within the state 42 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:25,219 didn't want it and the only way it could 43 00:02:23,189 --> 00:02:27,120 mean ten itself was by 44 00:02:25,219 --> 00:02:29,280 institutionalizing sectarianism and 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,650 maintaining sectarian discrimination and 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,930 oppression and I think that so long as 47 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:37,739 it continues it will have to continue to 48 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:40,050 do that so if you build a state that 49 00:02:37,739 --> 00:02:44,489 tries to exclude one third of its 50 00:02:40,050 --> 00:02:47,519 community from democratic power from 51 00:02:44,489 --> 00:02:51,000 education and from employment you're 52 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:53,629 building a problem the legacy of the 50 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,158 years of discrimination and oppression 54 00:02:53,628 --> 00:02:58,949 provoked the Catholic minority in to 55 00:02:56,158 --> 00:03:01,859 revolt in the 60s they revolted 56 00:02:58,949 --> 00:03:02,829 peacefully but that peaceful protest was 57 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:05,970 met with repression 58 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:05,969 they didn't get reforms 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,599 in the late 1960s there was a civil 60 00:03:25,489 --> 00:03:29,989 rights movement here which was 61 00:03:26,598 --> 00:03:31,039 completely unarmed non-military the 62 00:03:29,989 --> 00:03:34,239 British government could not deal 63 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:37,969 without unday by a series of maneuvers 64 00:03:34,239 --> 00:03:42,079 including shooting down of 13 protesters 65 00:03:37,969 --> 00:03:44,530 in in darreth and in the early 70s by a 66 00:03:42,079 --> 00:03:48,620 series of maneuvers they turned that 67 00:03:44,530 --> 00:03:50,000 peaceful protest campaign into a 68 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:52,569 military campaign because they thought 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,568 they could deal with it 70 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:02,899 the state has basically existed in a 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,400 state of emergency from its inception it 72 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:07,069 began with the British defense of the 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,539 realm act in every generation in 74 00:04:07,068 --> 00:04:11,060 Northern Ireland internment without 75 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:13,818 trial has been an operation we have had 76 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:18,199 know for 20 years non-jury courts we've 77 00:04:13,818 --> 00:04:20,629 had a whole series of interferences with 78 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:24,770 the legal process the use of super 79 00:04:20,629 --> 00:04:26,839 grasses torture of prisoners to obtain 80 00:04:24,769 --> 00:04:28,459 confessions and so on Britain has been 81 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,560 dragged again and again before the 82 00:04:28,459 --> 00:04:32,329 European Court of Human Rights for its 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,060 violations of human rights in Northern 84 00:04:32,329 --> 00:04:37,908 Ireland and the only way they can 85 00:04:35,060 --> 00:04:40,129 contain the situation here is by this 86 00:04:37,908 --> 00:04:42,560 type of repressive legislation and by a 87 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:44,689 massive army of occupation and it's it's 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,848 a bit like the Vietnam War for America 89 00:04:44,689 --> 00:04:50,240 that eventually becomes a war that can't 90 00:04:46,848 --> 00:04:53,180 be won and can only be held to a draw by 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:56,090 fighting a dirty war of repressive 92 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:58,610 measures under occupation undercover 93 00:04:56,089 --> 00:05:00,079 assassinations and so on all of which 94 00:04:58,610 --> 00:05:02,650 has its effect on the pond the British 95 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:05,209 state itself because it is gradually 96 00:05:02,649 --> 00:05:08,209 destroying the traditions of democracy 97 00:05:05,209 --> 00:05:09,899 within Britain itself it was a sunny 98 00:05:08,209 --> 00:05:14,489 August afternoon and 99 00:05:09,899 --> 00:05:18,989 was Tom Murphy his friends had a couple 100 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:23,009 of drinks a scuffle broke out birth for 101 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:24,470 patron has mates started the the 102 00:05:23,009 --> 00:05:27,449 soldiers started to arrest him 103 00:05:24,470 --> 00:05:31,740 my brother he started to run d'void I 104 00:05:27,449 --> 00:05:35,279 rest a soldier on it he went after him 105 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:37,699 sooner and he couldn't catch him and I 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,469 think one of the herbs in charge 107 00:05:37,699 --> 00:05:44,759 shouted to the soldier shoot the bastard 108 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:48,750 and he couldn't catch him at all so he 109 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:51,870 knelt down and shot him in the back he 110 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:55,110 did he was martyred for just nothing 111 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:58,050 like you know shut down a guitar you 112 00:05:55,110 --> 00:06:03,199 can't have your army over here armed to 113 00:05:58,050 --> 00:06:05,970 the teeth bored to the teeth filled with 114 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:08,810 irrational prejudices about the people 115 00:06:05,970 --> 00:06:11,940 in this country and expect them to say 116 00:06:08,810 --> 00:06:13,920 excuse me sir do you mind if I look and 117 00:06:11,939 --> 00:06:17,329 say the boot of your caraway - good 118 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,240 evening madam isn't it a lovely day 119 00:06:17,329 --> 00:06:24,180 because their soldiers do get shot and 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:26,970 because they don't know they you know 121 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:31,110 they don't know what's the person who 122 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:32,510 will say good evening officer will shoot 123 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:35,520 them tomorrow 124 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:39,170 god that's war that is that is the sad 125 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:39,169 reality of war 126 00:06:43,338 --> 00:06:49,259 my sister was shot in 1981 she was 12 127 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,269 years of age when she was shot 128 00:06:49,259 --> 00:06:53,430 I'm one of soldiers shadow right we're 129 00:06:51,269 --> 00:06:56,609 going to get one use bastard for our [ __ ] 130 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:59,668 today plastic bolt was then charged and 131 00:06:56,610 --> 00:07:01,468 Caroline was said she lived on the 132 00:06:59,668 --> 00:07:06,688 life-support machine for three days and 133 00:07:01,468 --> 00:07:08,550 then died in children they took us for 134 00:07:06,689 --> 00:07:11,159 where Akari what they called the honkers 135 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:13,649 Gary a big blue of photographs 136 00:07:11,158 --> 00:07:15,838 IRD atrocities needless this year there 137 00:07:13,649 --> 00:07:17,999 was no photographs of victims a Bloody 138 00:07:15,838 --> 00:07:22,889 Sunday plastic bullet victims anything 139 00:07:17,999 --> 00:07:23,939 like that you know Brown wasn't home at 140 00:07:22,889 --> 00:07:27,718 a quarter past 6:00 141 00:07:23,939 --> 00:07:30,689 he went out I had given two pounds and 142 00:07:27,718 --> 00:07:33,930 he had went out and at 28 months pass 143 00:07:30,689 --> 00:07:37,919 sex a boy came hood over and told me at 144 00:07:33,930 --> 00:07:40,769 Brown was shot via plastic bullet and he 145 00:07:37,918 --> 00:07:43,758 was only 13 and I know he was not a 146 00:07:40,769 --> 00:07:43,758 threat to anybody 147 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:51,149 this began purely and simply because the 148 00:07:48,749 --> 00:07:53,219 Catholic nationalist community finally 149 00:07:51,149 --> 00:07:55,668 came to the end of their tether and they 150 00:07:53,218 --> 00:07:58,649 asked for equality in this society 151 00:07:55,668 --> 00:08:01,109 equality and jobs housing and voting and 152 00:07:58,649 --> 00:08:04,019 an end to special cars and military 153 00:08:01,110 --> 00:08:06,538 policing now if the English people 154 00:08:04,019 --> 00:08:08,728 really knew what was taking place here 155 00:08:06,538 --> 00:08:11,459 if they were allowed to debate it I 156 00:08:08,728 --> 00:08:13,050 believe all of their instincts would 157 00:08:11,459 --> 00:08:16,139 lead them to say this is intolerable 158 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:18,569 this must be ended the very last thing I 159 00:08:16,139 --> 00:08:22,379 ever saw was one one young man having 160 00:08:18,569 --> 00:08:25,499 his head bit off Saracen so I felt very 161 00:08:22,379 --> 00:08:27,120 very force to felt so helpless doesn't 162 00:08:25,499 --> 00:08:29,909 know where to scream or cry or what to 163 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,278 do well what was going on in the street 164 00:08:29,908 --> 00:08:34,198 and I don't want to make children 165 00:08:32,278 --> 00:08:36,929 maintain his children to preach on about 166 00:08:34,198 --> 00:08:39,718 Kurt and she put on a record for green 167 00:08:36,929 --> 00:08:41,818 feats and it was only playing minutes 168 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:43,319 when a part of her stepped right in 169 00:08:41,818 --> 00:08:46,799 front of my window and fired directly 170 00:08:43,318 --> 00:08:49,169 under my face I was taken to hospital 171 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:52,698 and my age was so badly damaged that 172 00:08:49,169 --> 00:08:52,698 they both had to be removed 173 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:15,369 and I just wanted today when you're the 174 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,649 more of eleven children and the later 175 00:09:15,369 --> 00:09:19,449 very active life two petrols you'll 176 00:09:17,649 --> 00:09:23,619 never see your children again I just 177 00:09:19,448 --> 00:09:24,068 couldn't accept it and for no reason at 178 00:09:23,619 --> 00:09:27,819 all 179 00:09:24,068 --> 00:09:30,338 the Northern Ireland State has filled it 180 00:09:27,818 --> 00:09:32,828 as palpably and demonstrably failed and 181 00:09:30,339 --> 00:09:35,319 the attempt to continue it in existence 182 00:09:32,828 --> 00:09:37,088 to keep it going just leads to a steady 183 00:09:35,318 --> 00:09:39,458 hemorrhage of blood to the political 184 00:09:37,089 --> 00:09:42,129 military conflict that we have which 185 00:09:39,458 --> 00:09:44,258 kills a hundred people a year memes a 186 00:09:42,129 --> 00:09:46,149 thousand people a year results in 187 00:09:44,259 --> 00:09:48,669 hundreds of people being jailed has 188 00:09:46,149 --> 00:09:50,860 devastated the economy of the area and 189 00:09:48,669 --> 00:09:53,649 massive unemployment how do you resolve 190 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:56,289 that and it seems to me that the only 191 00:09:53,649 --> 00:09:57,879 way that you can resolve that now is by 192 00:09:56,289 --> 00:10:00,490 looking again at the whole political 193 00:09:57,879 --> 00:10:03,759 structure of the place and you have one 194 00:10:00,490 --> 00:10:06,278 dynamic drive to reintegrate it with the 195 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:08,740 rest of Ireland you have a resistance to 196 00:10:06,278 --> 00:10:10,298 that but is that resistance based on 197 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:12,369 anything tangible 198 00:10:10,298 --> 00:10:14,558 is it possible to continue a separate 199 00:10:12,369 --> 00:10:16,778 state in Northern Ireland and and and 200 00:10:14,558 --> 00:10:20,219 for it to be a democratic entity and I 201 00:10:16,778 --> 00:10:22,269 don't believe it is the myth of 202 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:25,778 Catholics and Protestants not being able 203 00:10:22,269 --> 00:10:29,350 to live together was invent in order to 204 00:10:25,778 --> 00:10:32,438 keep control of the people are loyalists 205 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:35,290 minority in Ireland is a besieged and 206 00:10:32,438 --> 00:10:37,868 frightened minority and it is our 207 00:10:35,289 --> 00:10:40,480 obligation as Irish people to 208 00:10:37,869 --> 00:10:43,569 demonstrate quite conclusively to those 209 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:47,048 people that they shall have an equal and 210 00:10:43,568 --> 00:10:49,599 just place in a new Irish society there 211 00:10:47,048 --> 00:10:52,659 will be no domination for any group or 212 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,839 any section whether it be 213 00:10:52,659 --> 00:10:57,669 clerical whether it be political or 214 00:10:55,839 --> 00:11:00,610 whether it be economic it must be a 215 00:10:57,669 --> 00:11:02,708 society of equality I think what people 216 00:11:00,610 --> 00:11:06,220 have clearly to understand is that those 217 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:08,739 of us who most want to see an end to the 218 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:12,278 British Army and an end partition are 219 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:14,068 not asking the Protestant people of the 220 00:11:12,278 --> 00:11:17,649 north to live 221 00:11:14,068 --> 00:11:19,748 in Charlie Horace Reese did I wouldn't 222 00:11:17,649 --> 00:11:23,078 live in it myself and I wouldn't ask 223 00:11:19,749 --> 00:11:28,600 anybody else to live in it and I think 224 00:11:23,078 --> 00:11:32,188 if they if they knew that yeah it should 225 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:35,739 be fit to build a country here ourselves 226 00:11:32,188 --> 00:11:37,838 the conflict just goes on it is endless 227 00:11:35,739 --> 00:11:39,339 unless somebody breaks the circle the 228 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:41,110 people who have the power to break the 229 00:11:39,339 --> 00:11:43,179 circle are the British government and 230 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:45,339 they can do that in two steps they can 231 00:11:43,178 --> 00:11:47,169 do it by saying that they are going to 232 00:11:45,339 --> 00:11:48,369 withdraw from Northern Ireland gonna 233 00:11:47,169 --> 00:11:50,318 withdraw the troops from Northern 234 00:11:48,369 --> 00:11:52,899 Ireland that the future of Northern 235 00:11:50,318 --> 00:11:55,568 Ireland lies with the side and then 236 00:11:52,899 --> 00:11:57,578 agree with the southern government to a 237 00:11:55,568 --> 00:11:59,498 round table conference of everybody 238 00:11:57,578 --> 00:12:01,178 involved in the conflict including the 239 00:11:59,499 --> 00:12:03,100 IRA including the Protestant 240 00:12:01,178 --> 00:12:04,808 paramilitary groups because there can't 241 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:06,610 be any solution without involving the 242 00:12:04,808 --> 00:12:09,219 main actors what I would like to see 243 00:12:06,610 --> 00:12:14,009 them see them announce is first of all a 244 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:19,230 clear declaration that they now precede 245 00:12:14,009 --> 00:12:19,230 that peace and Ireland depends on 246 00:12:20,068 --> 00:12:27,039 self-determination for the Irish people 247 00:12:22,178 --> 00:12:29,980 as a whole and in order to allow that to 248 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:32,528 develop the British will begin the 249 00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:36,129 process of withdrawing from Ireland and 250 00:12:32,528 --> 00:12:38,889 that the first step very much like the 251 00:12:36,129 --> 00:12:41,220 Russians in Afghanistan the first step 252 00:12:38,889 --> 00:12:44,829 is the program and the date by which 253 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:46,959 every soldier will be out of the 254 00:12:44,828 --> 00:12:49,118 contract I think of my grandchildren 255 00:12:46,958 --> 00:12:52,899 would live in a more peaceful confident 256 00:12:49,119 --> 00:12:55,240 I have lived in all my life and I think 257 00:12:52,899 --> 00:12:58,918 that the only way they will live another 258 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,568 kind of peace is to get Britain Ireland 259 00:12:58,918 --> 00:13:03,308 because I think it stained the British 260 00:13:01,568 --> 00:13:05,798 people realized that we have suffered 261 00:13:03,308 --> 00:13:08,588 all donor years at the hands of but the 262 00:13:05,798 --> 00:13:11,948 British government and I think it stain 263 00:13:08,589 --> 00:13:14,470 that they pulled out and left us to rule 264 00:13:11,948 --> 00:13:16,238 ourselves done for a matter Philip 265 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:18,699 benefit of my grandchildren that can't 266 00:13:16,239 --> 00:13:22,990 calm still enough because I feel I ought 267 00:13:18,698 --> 00:13:25,868 to them to let them live on a more 268 00:13:22,990 --> 00:13:28,230 peaceful just so sorry and I've ever 269 00:13:25,869 --> 00:13:28,230 lived in 20348

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