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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:40,290 --> 00:00:42,464 Horror movies always have iconic moments 2 00:00:42,499 --> 00:00:43,810 that people remember... 3 00:00:43,845 --> 00:00:47,228 Forever and ever. 4 00:00:48,401 --> 00:00:49,506 Either fondly... 5 00:00:52,543 --> 00:00:53,751 Or with fear. 6 00:00:53,786 --> 00:00:55,581 Imagery has a great deal to do 7 00:00:55,615 --> 00:00:57,548 with what people remember about horror films, 8 00:00:57,583 --> 00:00:59,688 and also sound. 9 00:00:59,723 --> 00:01:01,932 Sound is a major component. 10 00:01:05,798 --> 00:01:07,869 And, you know, with the images, 11 00:01:07,903 --> 00:01:09,778 you can play it contrapuntally or with something that 12 00:01:09,802 --> 00:01:11,907 that doesn't match the image... 13 00:01:11,942 --> 00:01:14,255 or something that overpowers the image. 14 00:01:16,567 --> 00:01:18,604 Turned to blue! 15 00:01:18,638 --> 00:01:21,641 Or maybe when there's no sound at all, 16 00:01:21,676 --> 00:01:24,334 which sometimes can be even scarier. 17 00:01:32,687 --> 00:01:35,552 I'm scared to close my eyes. 18 00:01:35,586 --> 00:01:37,381 I'm scared to open them. 19 00:01:37,415 --> 00:01:40,764 I'm gonna die out here. 20 00:01:40,798 --> 00:01:42,421 "The Blair Witch Project" 21 00:01:42,455 --> 00:01:44,526 changed the way movies were made forever. 22 00:01:44,561 --> 00:01:47,978 There's no overstating the difference 23 00:01:48,012 --> 00:01:51,947 between before and after found footage was done. 24 00:01:51,982 --> 00:01:53,915 My God! What the fuck is that? 25 00:01:53,949 --> 00:01:56,331 It had no budget. It didn't really have sets. 26 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:58,195 It didn't really have a script. 27 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:00,473 And instead of apologizing for that, 28 00:02:00,508 --> 00:02:02,406 it made those its strengths. 29 00:02:02,441 --> 00:02:04,477 Okay, I got you. - This is my home. 30 00:02:04,512 --> 00:02:06,238 Okay. 31 00:02:06,272 --> 00:02:07,974 Which I am leaving the comforts of for the weekend 32 00:02:07,998 --> 00:02:11,001 to explore the Blair Witch. 33 00:02:11,034 --> 00:02:12,520 All over the place. 34 00:02:12,554 --> 00:02:13,866 Holy shit. 35 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:16,247 Come up here quick! I need to use the CP! 36 00:02:16,282 --> 00:02:18,215 Movies didn't look like this at the time, 37 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:19,872 so I assumed if it was found footage, 38 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:22,909 it had to be a real movie, because who would put out 39 00:02:22,944 --> 00:02:25,257 a movie that looked like such a piece of shit 40 00:02:25,291 --> 00:02:26,396 and call it a real movie? 41 00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:27,638 So I thought it was real. 42 00:02:27,673 --> 00:02:29,882 And that made it so much scarier. 43 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:33,644 Woke up this morning, just, like, two seconds ago, 44 00:02:33,679 --> 00:02:36,475 and there are piles of rocks outside of our tent. 45 00:02:36,509 --> 00:02:40,720 The scary things in that film are all up here. 46 00:02:40,755 --> 00:02:43,654 It's the viewer filling in the blanks. 47 00:02:43,689 --> 00:02:46,381 There's no jump scares in there, per se. 48 00:02:46,416 --> 00:02:50,558 It's just the sense of dread and discomfort. 49 00:02:50,592 --> 00:02:51,938 Did you take it? 50 00:02:51,973 --> 00:02:54,286 No, I didn't take the fucking map, man. 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,884 Are you fucking serious? - I'm fucking serious. 52 00:02:55,908 --> 00:02:57,427 I don't have the map, okay? 53 00:02:57,461 --> 00:02:59,360 That's the tree we crossed. 54 00:02:59,394 --> 00:03:01,431 That tree is down. That's the same one. 55 00:03:01,465 --> 00:03:03,260 God! - No. 56 00:03:03,295 --> 00:03:05,745 The cinematography and the performance 57 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:07,678 of that lead actress are so real 58 00:03:07,713 --> 00:03:09,611 that you constantly check, "Is this fake? 59 00:03:09,646 --> 00:03:10,819 Is this real? Is this fake?" 60 00:03:10,854 --> 00:03:12,545 What's that sound? 61 00:03:14,098 --> 00:03:15,997 Jesus. 62 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:22,348 Go! Fucking go! 63 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:24,902 At some point in the story, 64 00:03:24,937 --> 00:03:26,835 they talk about this kid's put, 65 00:03:26,870 --> 00:03:29,355 you know, against the wall as a punishment 66 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:31,323 while they were killing the other one. 67 00:03:31,357 --> 00:03:32,979 But they don't make a meal out of it. 68 00:03:33,014 --> 00:03:35,568 They just mention it, but it stays with you. 69 00:03:35,603 --> 00:03:38,088 What he did is he took the kids down to the basement 70 00:03:38,122 --> 00:03:40,366 by twos, and he made one face into the corner. 71 00:03:40,401 --> 00:03:41,678 Really? 72 00:03:41,711 --> 00:03:43,645 And then he would kill the other one. 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,095 He could feel the eyes watching him. 74 00:03:45,129 --> 00:03:47,339 That's why he made him face into the corner like that. 75 00:03:47,372 --> 00:03:48,719 It's a terrifying story, 76 00:03:48,754 --> 00:03:50,490 but you don't think there's gonna be much, you know, 77 00:03:50,514 --> 00:03:52,999 to do with anything, that it's just a thing the said. 78 00:03:53,034 --> 00:03:54,691 And then when it happens 79 00:03:54,725 --> 00:03:57,314 on that climax of her running around 80 00:03:57,348 --> 00:03:58,626 trying to find her friend, 81 00:03:58,660 --> 00:03:59,775 and then you finally see him-- 82 00:03:59,799 --> 00:04:01,319 I still remember that terrifying moment 83 00:04:01,353 --> 00:04:02,813 of just seeing him and understanding-- 84 00:04:02,837 --> 00:04:05,529 on, like, what, like, 10 frames?-- 85 00:04:05,564 --> 00:04:09,464 understanding that if he's up against the wall 86 00:04:09,499 --> 00:04:11,052 and they said that 87 00:04:11,086 --> 00:04:14,642 that's what they did while they kill the other one, then-- 88 00:04:14,676 --> 00:04:16,471 And before you can process the idea... 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,096 She's hit, and the camera's on the floor, and it's over. 90 00:04:21,131 --> 00:04:23,961 Such a brilliant concept. Great storytelling. 91 00:04:23,996 --> 00:04:26,032 You get the setup and the payoff. 92 00:04:26,067 --> 00:04:27,872 You get the setup-- this is what the Blair Witch does-- 93 00:04:27,896 --> 00:04:30,658 and you get the payoff, and you go, "God! 94 00:04:30,692 --> 00:04:32,049 I know what's happening. I get it." 95 00:04:32,073 --> 00:04:34,455 It's really thanks to an ending like that, 96 00:04:34,489 --> 00:04:38,113 like "Blair Witch," that it just exploded the phase 97 00:04:38,148 --> 00:04:39,736 of found-footage films. 98 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:42,014 You look at franchises like "Paranormal Activity." 99 00:04:42,048 --> 00:04:45,155 It really came from a movie like "Blair Witch." 100 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:48,020 You gonna write us a happy ending, Heather? 101 00:04:55,165 --> 00:04:57,926 Dealing with demons is not my area. 102 00:04:57,961 --> 00:04:59,756 I'm very uncomfortable with it. 103 00:04:59,790 --> 00:05:01,378 And I'll tell you, quite frankly, 104 00:05:01,413 --> 00:05:02,804 I sense that there's something going on in this house. 105 00:05:02,828 --> 00:05:04,554 "Paranormal Activity" 106 00:05:04,588 --> 00:05:07,695 is about a couple who fear their home is haunted, 107 00:05:07,729 --> 00:05:10,387 and so they set up cameras throughout the house... 108 00:05:10,422 --> 00:05:11,640 All right, we're operational, babe. 109 00:05:11,664 --> 00:05:13,701 Ooh. - Sweet. 110 00:05:13,735 --> 00:05:15,772 To capture what is happening at night. 111 00:05:15,806 --> 00:05:17,808 I think I'm gonna have a very interesting time 112 00:05:17,843 --> 00:05:21,156 capturing whatever paranormal phenomena 113 00:05:21,191 --> 00:05:22,744 is occurring or is not occurring. 114 00:05:22,779 --> 00:05:24,170 I kind of think it should point down the hallway. 115 00:05:24,194 --> 00:05:25,896 I mean, that's where we heard its footsteps. 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,820 And, you know, what is causing these strange instances 117 00:05:29,855 --> 00:05:31,891 of the main character, Katie, getting up 118 00:05:31,926 --> 00:05:32,996 and sleepwalking... 119 00:05:35,481 --> 00:05:37,587 Clearly being afflicted by something. 120 00:05:37,621 --> 00:05:39,047 Whatever it is that's following me, 121 00:05:39,071 --> 00:05:40,210 it doesn't feel human. 122 00:05:40,244 --> 00:05:42,661 That sounds actually like a demon. 123 00:05:42,695 --> 00:05:44,939 There are these malevolent, evil spirits 124 00:05:44,973 --> 00:05:47,493 that only exist to cause pain. 125 00:05:47,528 --> 00:05:49,461 What the fuck is that? 126 00:05:49,495 --> 00:05:52,015 And so the movie is essentially you 127 00:05:52,049 --> 00:05:54,051 following these pieces of footage with them 128 00:05:54,086 --> 00:05:55,500 and going on their journey. 129 00:05:55,536 --> 00:05:57,607 The camera's not moving so much. 130 00:05:57,641 --> 00:05:59,961 It's really about anticipation and really about empty space 131 00:05:59,988 --> 00:06:02,715 and when something is gonna happen. 132 00:06:05,546 --> 00:06:07,651 And it really worked, and it really scared people. 133 00:06:07,686 --> 00:06:09,722 I feel it breathing on me. 134 00:06:14,002 --> 00:06:16,557 The power of many "Paranormal Activity" scenes 135 00:06:16,591 --> 00:06:18,593 for me work in the sound design as well, 136 00:06:18,628 --> 00:06:22,977 because you know, when you hear the low rumble, 137 00:06:23,011 --> 00:06:25,531 you know something bad is about to occur. 138 00:06:28,603 --> 00:06:31,054 I'll never forget sitting in an audience, 139 00:06:31,088 --> 00:06:36,024 and you hear, "mmmmmm," and everybody goes, "ooh," 140 00:06:36,059 --> 00:06:39,131 and they're all anticipating something to come. 141 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:41,789 It's pure front-of-the-house fun. 142 00:06:41,823 --> 00:06:46,000 Micah! Micah! Micah! Micah! 143 00:06:52,316 --> 00:06:54,077 For me, the creepiest scene 144 00:06:54,111 --> 00:06:56,044 was when Katie's, like, standing over the bed. 145 00:06:58,150 --> 00:07:00,255 That scene really just got under my skin 146 00:07:00,290 --> 00:07:02,775 in a way that a lot of horror films don't. 147 00:07:02,810 --> 00:07:06,538 In this really weird, kind of sleepwalk-y way, 148 00:07:06,572 --> 00:07:09,713 she stands next to the bed looking at him 149 00:07:09,748 --> 00:07:12,129 for what seems to be hours. 150 00:07:12,164 --> 00:07:13,279 And it's fast-forwarded through, 151 00:07:13,303 --> 00:07:15,547 so you don't have to sit through hours. 152 00:07:15,581 --> 00:07:17,169 But you're like, "My dear God, 153 00:07:17,203 --> 00:07:20,655 something is very wrong here." 154 00:07:20,690 --> 00:07:23,140 I think, for a lot of people, they were just like, 155 00:07:23,175 --> 00:07:24,832 "What if I woke up and saw my loved one 156 00:07:24,866 --> 00:07:27,041 just standing by the side of the bed, just watching?" 157 00:07:27,075 --> 00:07:29,871 It's like, "Who am I living my life with? 158 00:07:29,906 --> 00:07:31,597 "Who am I sharing this world with? 159 00:07:31,632 --> 00:07:33,219 "And what do I actually know 160 00:07:33,254 --> 00:07:35,636 about them at any given moment?" 161 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:37,327 Obviously, not everybody's partner 162 00:07:37,361 --> 00:07:39,122 is possessed by a demon at a certain point, 163 00:07:39,156 --> 00:07:41,814 but, like, there are moments where you feel like that. 164 00:07:41,849 --> 00:07:43,644 I'm trying to solve the problem here. 165 00:07:43,678 --> 00:07:45,000 I didn't bring that thing into the house! 166 00:07:45,024 --> 00:07:46,439 Well, don't do me any-- - You did! 167 00:07:46,474 --> 00:07:48,649 And you're like, "I don't know who you are right now. 168 00:07:48,683 --> 00:07:50,340 Like, we are arguing not in a nice way." 169 00:07:50,374 --> 00:07:52,584 You're not in control. It is in control. 170 00:07:52,618 --> 00:07:53,871 And if you think you're in control, 171 00:07:53,895 --> 00:07:54,941 then you're being an idiot. 172 00:07:54,965 --> 00:07:57,105 And I think that's the relatability 173 00:07:57,140 --> 00:07:58,842 that you kind of get out of those situations. 174 00:07:58,866 --> 00:08:00,971 Micah! 175 00:08:01,006 --> 00:08:02,628 Katie! 176 00:08:12,949 --> 00:08:14,295 Hey, come on. 177 00:08:14,329 --> 00:08:16,331 I'll show you where my dad keeps his gun. 178 00:08:16,366 --> 00:08:18,817 Come on. 179 00:08:18,851 --> 00:08:22,993 "The Sixth Sense" is a really well constructed story. 180 00:08:23,028 --> 00:08:24,685 I see dead people. 181 00:08:24,719 --> 00:08:26,963 Beautifully paced, beautifully timed, 182 00:08:26,997 --> 00:08:29,966 with a killer-- no punish intended-- twist ending 183 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,623 that validates the whole story. 184 00:08:31,657 --> 00:08:33,693 How does the story end? 185 00:08:33,727 --> 00:08:35,799 I don't know. 186 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:38,630 The entire film really rests on the shoulders 187 00:08:38,664 --> 00:08:42,185 of this kid I had never seen, Haley Joel Osment, who plays 188 00:08:42,219 --> 00:08:44,325 this kid with so much heart. 189 00:08:44,359 --> 00:08:46,845 The reason that movie is so scary 190 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,294 is that you're afraid for him 191 00:08:48,329 --> 00:08:50,158 and you're afraid for his mother. 192 00:08:50,193 --> 00:08:52,954 Her child is very troubled, says weird things. 193 00:08:52,989 --> 00:08:54,680 They used to hang people here. 194 00:08:54,715 --> 00:08:56,751 Not getting along with the other kids. 195 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:58,201 No! No! 196 00:08:58,235 --> 00:08:59,892 And to me, that's kind of the doorway 197 00:08:59,927 --> 00:09:01,204 into the real-life horror. 198 00:09:01,238 --> 00:09:03,206 You're a single mother with a troubled child. 199 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,311 As a mother, that's already a horrifying premise. 200 00:09:05,346 --> 00:09:07,244 Cole, what's wrong? 201 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:11,386 God, please tell me. 202 00:09:11,421 --> 00:09:13,364 And I haven't seen that movie in such a long time, 203 00:09:13,388 --> 00:09:16,081 but the scenes were intense enough 204 00:09:16,115 --> 00:09:17,772 to stay with you forever. 205 00:09:17,807 --> 00:09:19,981 The scene when he goes to the bathroom, 206 00:09:20,016 --> 00:09:22,363 and it remind you of that fear of when you were a kid, 207 00:09:22,397 --> 00:09:24,020 just going to the bathroom very quickly, 208 00:09:24,054 --> 00:09:25,400 trying to go back to your bed. 209 00:09:25,435 --> 00:09:28,058 M. Night does this great thing with the temperature. 210 00:09:28,093 --> 00:09:30,785 When the ghost shows up, it gets colder. 211 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,650 You can see his breath, so you know that it's happening. 212 00:09:33,685 --> 00:09:36,273 Like, the anticipation and the build-up of that film 213 00:09:36,308 --> 00:09:38,034 just a master class in horror. 214 00:09:38,068 --> 00:09:40,415 Mama. 215 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:42,141 No. 216 00:09:42,176 --> 00:09:44,661 Dinner is not ready. 217 00:09:44,696 --> 00:09:46,801 What are you gonna do? 218 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:48,838 You can't hurt me anymore! 219 00:09:48,872 --> 00:09:52,048 My favorite moment is when the girl throwing up 220 00:09:52,082 --> 00:09:53,256 shows up inside his tent. 221 00:09:53,290 --> 00:09:54,395 It's all about misdirection 222 00:09:54,429 --> 00:09:56,328 like good jump scares usually are. 223 00:09:56,362 --> 00:09:58,710 How do you convince the whole audience 224 00:09:58,744 --> 00:10:00,677 the terror is where it's not? 225 00:10:00,712 --> 00:10:02,368 Usually the audience knows better, 226 00:10:02,403 --> 00:10:04,198 and they know, and it's hard to trick them. 227 00:10:04,232 --> 00:10:07,960 But in that moment, where-- in the scene, he looks up, 228 00:10:07,995 --> 00:10:10,860 and the little clips start opening up and opening up, 229 00:10:10,894 --> 00:10:13,000 and you think, clearly, that thing is outside, 230 00:10:13,034 --> 00:10:15,278 because otherwise, why open the things up there? 231 00:10:15,312 --> 00:10:18,350 And the camera drops, and it's, like, right in front of you. 232 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:19,385 Which makes no sense. 233 00:10:19,420 --> 00:10:21,422 Why was it opening the clips? 234 00:10:21,456 --> 00:10:23,251 The only reason it was doing that 235 00:10:23,286 --> 00:10:25,219 is just to justify the camera being up there 236 00:10:25,253 --> 00:10:27,462 and misleading you to believe the thing 237 00:10:27,497 --> 00:10:29,154 was gonna come from the outside. 238 00:10:29,188 --> 00:10:31,190 Just incredible. 239 00:10:31,225 --> 00:10:33,227 As terrifying as it is for him-- 240 00:10:33,261 --> 00:10:34,953 'cause he's always scared. 241 00:10:34,987 --> 00:10:37,369 Do you want to tell me something? 242 00:10:37,403 --> 00:10:39,751 He's been scared through the whole movie. 243 00:10:39,785 --> 00:10:43,030 But this is the first time he's scared, 244 00:10:43,064 --> 00:10:45,170 but he's armed with knowledge now. 245 00:10:45,204 --> 00:10:46,930 There's something that he can actually do 246 00:10:46,965 --> 00:10:48,207 with this information. 247 00:10:48,242 --> 00:10:51,003 She wanted to tell you something. 248 00:10:51,038 --> 00:10:53,730 It actually means something in the real world. 249 00:10:53,765 --> 00:10:55,352 But the real tragedy 250 00:10:55,387 --> 00:10:58,252 is finding out exactly what happened, that her mother was 251 00:10:58,286 --> 00:11:00,737 slowly poisoning her food the entire time 252 00:11:00,772 --> 00:11:02,877 because she just couldn't take the strains 253 00:11:02,912 --> 00:11:04,223 of that relationship. 254 00:11:04,258 --> 00:11:06,881 And I think that type of torment of a child 255 00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:08,434 just hits everybody at their core 256 00:11:08,469 --> 00:11:10,402 because there is this, like, innocent girl that's 257 00:11:10,436 --> 00:11:12,404 going through this horrible situation. 258 00:11:12,438 --> 00:11:14,238 And you have this other innocent child that is 259 00:11:14,268 --> 00:11:15,234 putting that story together. 260 00:11:15,269 --> 00:11:17,547 You were keeping her sick. 261 00:11:17,581 --> 00:11:19,514 It's just so heartbreaking in a way 262 00:11:19,549 --> 00:11:22,448 that it affects you emotionally, 263 00:11:22,483 --> 00:11:24,830 and you're then emotionally connected to that character 264 00:11:24,865 --> 00:11:27,315 rather than being scared by the imagery. 265 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:29,041 They scare me, too, sometimes. 266 00:11:29,076 --> 00:11:31,388 I think that's the reason that movie actually hits 267 00:11:31,423 --> 00:11:32,562 on another level. 268 00:11:37,325 --> 00:11:39,949 "Let the Right One In" was wonderful 269 00:11:39,983 --> 00:11:42,779 because it was so grounded. 270 00:11:42,814 --> 00:11:47,853 First, it's shot so majestically. 271 00:11:47,888 --> 00:11:52,582 It's shot by a person that doesn't want to scare you. 272 00:11:52,616 --> 00:11:56,034 They want you to be very familiar with the scenes. 273 00:11:56,068 --> 00:12:00,072 And suddenly, they just blow your head up with a hammer. 274 00:12:00,107 --> 00:12:04,352 The proximity of the camera to the violence 275 00:12:04,387 --> 00:12:07,286 is really extraordinary and also really restrained. 276 00:12:07,321 --> 00:12:09,150 We as the audience watch at a distance 277 00:12:09,185 --> 00:12:12,222 in this beautiful freezing landscape, 278 00:12:12,257 --> 00:12:15,087 one victim after another being taken out by this 279 00:12:15,122 --> 00:12:17,331 not just sympathetic but sort of, like, 280 00:12:17,365 --> 00:12:20,196 empathetic young vampire. 281 00:12:20,230 --> 00:12:24,165 The whole movie to me is this love affair, 282 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,514 and these two kids live in these two different worlds 283 00:12:28,549 --> 00:12:30,551 of how they see life, 284 00:12:30,585 --> 00:12:33,899 because he's one species and she's another, 285 00:12:33,934 --> 00:12:35,349 and they exist in the same place 286 00:12:35,383 --> 00:12:37,247 because they like each other. 287 00:12:37,282 --> 00:12:39,422 And she starts being protective of him. 288 00:12:39,456 --> 00:12:41,873 It's one of the things that made it unique-- 289 00:12:41,907 --> 00:12:45,635 the innocence of the kids' first love, 290 00:12:45,669 --> 00:12:49,570 but that first love is a vampire, and is she a kid? 291 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,856 There's a very unique moment there 292 00:12:59,891 --> 00:13:02,100 where she's, like, licking the blood from the floor. 293 00:13:06,587 --> 00:13:09,417 And she looks up, and she's not a child, 294 00:13:09,452 --> 00:13:12,179 and she's not a girl. 295 00:13:12,213 --> 00:13:13,974 What is that? 296 00:13:14,008 --> 00:13:16,321 The scene that stayed with me is the scene in the pool. 297 00:13:16,355 --> 00:13:18,599 That scene was perfect. 298 00:13:18,633 --> 00:13:20,566 Everybody's having a good time. 299 00:13:20,601 --> 00:13:23,604 The kids are swimming, and he's swimming. 300 00:13:23,638 --> 00:13:26,400 And here comes the guy that bothers him at school, 301 00:13:26,434 --> 00:13:28,195 bothers him in the neighborhood. 302 00:13:28,229 --> 00:13:30,266 Brought his older brother with him 303 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:32,924 and his friends, too, for revenge. 304 00:13:56,464 --> 00:13:59,985 He pushes him down into the water, 305 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:01,929 and you see this kid, he doesn't know what to do, 306 00:14:01,953 --> 00:14:03,447 and he's just trying to hold his breath, 307 00:14:03,471 --> 00:14:04,956 trying to hold his breath. 308 00:14:04,990 --> 00:14:09,132 All you see is little bits of bubbles coming out, 309 00:14:09,167 --> 00:14:12,687 so it's starting to move, it's starting to move. 310 00:14:12,722 --> 00:14:14,344 And you're just waiting. 311 00:14:14,379 --> 00:14:16,484 And it makes these seconds 312 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:19,418 last longer and longer and longer. 313 00:14:19,453 --> 00:14:22,318 For a director, it's all about point of view. 314 00:14:22,352 --> 00:14:25,700 The same scene can be terrifying from here, 315 00:14:25,735 --> 00:14:28,220 it'll be hilarious and funny from over there. 316 00:14:28,255 --> 00:14:30,164 It's all about knowing exactly where to put the camera. 317 00:14:30,188 --> 00:14:31,948 And I think the director definitely finds 318 00:14:31,983 --> 00:14:34,364 the only place where you can put the camera, I guess, 319 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,160 for that scene and just makes it unique. 320 00:14:37,195 --> 00:14:39,714 And then out of nowhere, you hear these different sounds. 321 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,550 But you don't know what they are. 322 00:14:47,583 --> 00:14:49,724 It's not music. It's not people splashing. 323 00:14:49,759 --> 00:14:51,416 And before you know it, 324 00:14:51,450 --> 00:14:54,108 all these other things start happening. 325 00:14:54,143 --> 00:14:57,249 You don't know what's going on up there, 326 00:14:57,284 --> 00:15:00,356 but we understand when the hand that is pulling his hair 327 00:15:00,390 --> 00:15:02,392 finally drops, 328 00:15:02,427 --> 00:15:05,154 and we realize it has been chopped at the elbow. 329 00:15:05,188 --> 00:15:07,604 And now you know he's being protected 330 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:10,366 by this girl that loves him. 331 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,059 And not the time to mess with her guy. 332 00:15:14,094 --> 00:15:16,786 It's horrific in the way she's doing it-- 333 00:15:16,820 --> 00:15:19,409 just so animalistic. 334 00:15:19,444 --> 00:15:22,999 But at the same time, the passion of it is so human. 335 00:15:23,034 --> 00:15:25,105 For such a scary movie, it was suddenly, like, 336 00:15:25,139 --> 00:15:26,392 the feel-good scene of the movie 337 00:15:26,416 --> 00:15:29,247 because you were so happy that she showed up, 338 00:15:29,281 --> 00:15:31,076 even though she slaughtered all these kids 339 00:15:31,111 --> 00:15:33,803 and most of them were quite innocent. 340 00:15:33,837 --> 00:15:37,427 It's a beautiful scene in a way. 341 00:15:55,687 --> 00:15:57,630 What I liked about the latest "Invisible Man" movie 342 00:15:57,654 --> 00:16:00,174 is that he's a villain in this story. 343 00:16:00,209 --> 00:16:01,279 He's an abusive man. 344 00:16:04,489 --> 00:16:06,077 And Elizabeth Moss 345 00:16:06,111 --> 00:16:07,330 finally gets up the courage to leave him, 346 00:16:07,354 --> 00:16:09,218 not realizing that he's working 347 00:16:09,252 --> 00:16:13,187 on this kind of suit that will make him invisible to people. 348 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:16,639 So he starts stalking her, gaslighting her, 349 00:16:16,673 --> 00:16:19,090 doing all the horrible things that abusive people do. 350 00:16:23,128 --> 00:16:24,647 And nobody believes her. 351 00:16:24,681 --> 00:16:26,590 Right there. Right there. There were footprints. 352 00:16:26,614 --> 00:16:27,684 I saw it. 353 00:16:27,719 --> 00:16:28,834 You saw-- you saw footprints? 354 00:16:28,858 --> 00:16:31,688 In the sheets! I saw it right there! 355 00:16:31,723 --> 00:16:34,277 And her own sister doesn't believe her. 356 00:16:34,312 --> 00:16:36,072 Her sister thinks that she's losing her mind. 357 00:16:36,107 --> 00:16:38,523 He's-- he's doing this to me. 358 00:16:38,557 --> 00:16:40,111 You need some medication. 359 00:16:40,145 --> 00:16:42,147 And that's the terror of being a victim. 360 00:16:42,182 --> 00:16:44,356 If you're a victim of domestic violence, 361 00:16:44,391 --> 00:16:46,531 if you're a victim of abuse 362 00:16:46,565 --> 00:16:49,499 and you go to tell people what's happened 363 00:16:49,534 --> 00:16:51,225 and no one believes you, 364 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:53,227 they start to question your sanity, 365 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:56,196 that is the ultimate hell for a victim. 366 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:58,301 And what's beautiful about that film 367 00:16:58,336 --> 00:17:01,235 and why it's so perfectly written is it puts all of us 368 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:03,444 into her driver's seat. 369 00:17:03,479 --> 00:17:05,583 This is what he does. 370 00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:08,276 He makes me feel like I'm the crazy one. 371 00:17:08,311 --> 00:17:10,141 Listen to me! 372 00:17:10,175 --> 00:17:11,901 The restaurant scene 373 00:17:11,935 --> 00:17:12,798 with Elizabeth Moss and her sister 374 00:17:12,833 --> 00:17:15,801 is such a great moment, 375 00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,425 because Leigh is already creating tension 376 00:17:18,458 --> 00:17:20,185 because it's these two sisters 377 00:17:20,219 --> 00:17:21,565 who have just had a falling-out 378 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,808 and are coming back together. 379 00:17:22,843 --> 00:17:24,534 And it's Elizabeth Moss 380 00:17:24,569 --> 00:17:28,228 making, like, one final plea of, "I need help." 381 00:17:28,262 --> 00:17:30,575 And then you've got this waiter 382 00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:32,232 who comes into the moment. 383 00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:33,647 Hi. 384 00:17:33,681 --> 00:17:34,648 Hey. 385 00:17:34,682 --> 00:17:36,374 Hey, guys. 386 00:17:36,408 --> 00:17:37,799 My name is Taylor, and I will be taking care of you 387 00:17:37,823 --> 00:17:38,928 this evening. 388 00:17:38,962 --> 00:17:40,378 Do you know how this place works? 389 00:17:40,412 --> 00:17:42,345 I'm assuming you order food, then you eat it. 390 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:46,280 And so it's all about creating a level of comfort 391 00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:48,213 and disarming the audience. 392 00:17:48,248 --> 00:17:49,939 Leigh does a great job 393 00:17:49,973 --> 00:17:52,183 of convincing you that nothing bad is gonna happen. 394 00:17:52,217 --> 00:17:53,529 Maybe she won't believe her. 395 00:17:53,563 --> 00:17:55,462 Maybe that's the worst that's gonna happen. 396 00:17:55,496 --> 00:17:57,912 Her sister won't believe her story or something-- big deal. 397 00:17:57,947 --> 00:18:00,570 You're completely relaxed, and that's when they get you. 398 00:18:00,605 --> 00:18:03,677 Then Leigh introduces a giant knife to that scene. 399 00:18:05,437 --> 00:18:08,337 It's some kind of suit that Adrian has built, 400 00:18:08,371 --> 00:18:11,443 and it has cameras, and it somehow-- 401 00:18:11,478 --> 00:18:13,273 What? 402 00:18:15,827 --> 00:18:19,624 Then it just happens so fast, I just was like, "Holy fuck." 403 00:18:19,658 --> 00:18:21,978 Like, that scene-- I went back to see it, like, three times 404 00:18:22,005 --> 00:18:23,973 in the theater just to watch people's reaction 405 00:18:24,007 --> 00:18:25,561 to that scene. 406 00:18:25,595 --> 00:18:28,184 People just were, like, screamed out loud, 407 00:18:28,219 --> 00:18:30,497 and it was just, like, silence. 408 00:18:30,531 --> 00:18:32,706 One of the all-time shockers of films 409 00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:35,364 that I've seen in my life, actually. 410 00:18:35,398 --> 00:18:37,504 The best villains in movies, 411 00:18:37,538 --> 00:18:40,817 you cannot help but admire how smart the bad guy is, 412 00:18:40,852 --> 00:18:42,267 and that's what it does. 413 00:18:42,302 --> 00:18:45,201 And usually what that means is how smart 414 00:18:45,236 --> 00:18:46,927 the writer and the directors are, 415 00:18:46,961 --> 00:18:48,905 because that's what it does to me when I watch it. 416 00:18:48,929 --> 00:18:50,793 I was like, "Smart motherfucker, how he came up 417 00:18:50,827 --> 00:18:52,771 "with that idea and that concept that he was gonna 418 00:18:52,795 --> 00:18:54,383 "kill her and put the knife in her hand, 419 00:18:54,417 --> 00:18:56,005 and now she's really fucked." 420 00:19:08,293 --> 00:19:11,469 My center horror is being watched and not being known-- 421 00:19:11,503 --> 00:19:13,850 being observed without my consent. 422 00:19:13,885 --> 00:19:16,336 Watch out. He's looking through the window. 423 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:20,029 And "Wait Until Dark" does that to such effect. 424 00:19:20,063 --> 00:19:22,687 And it has all of the things that I love about horror-- 425 00:19:22,721 --> 00:19:24,585 excellent acting, tension, 426 00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:27,933 unexpected choices, jump scares, 427 00:19:27,968 --> 00:19:31,661 and a plot that is kind of a romp. 428 00:19:31,696 --> 00:19:33,422 It's Audrey Hepburn who's blind. 429 00:19:33,456 --> 00:19:35,527 Do I have to be the world's champion blind lady? 430 00:19:35,562 --> 00:19:36,977 Yes. 431 00:19:37,011 --> 00:19:38,772 She's been left on her own by her husband, 432 00:19:38,806 --> 00:19:40,601 who's gone off on this wild-goose chase. 433 00:19:40,636 --> 00:19:41,916 Mr. Hendrix won't wait forever. 434 00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:43,259 Shall we go to work, children? 435 00:19:43,294 --> 00:19:44,340 And these three guys think 436 00:19:44,364 --> 00:19:46,055 that she has a doll full of heroin, 437 00:19:46,089 --> 00:19:48,057 which she doesn't even know anything about. 438 00:19:48,091 --> 00:19:49,645 So they're trying to pry it out of her 439 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:51,070 by doing all these charades and things. 440 00:19:51,094 --> 00:19:53,718 What is it you want? Tell me who you are. 441 00:19:53,752 --> 00:19:56,376 Forgive me for bursting in on you like this. 442 00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:57,411 Has my father been here? 443 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:58,619 Once the other shoe drops 444 00:19:58,654 --> 00:20:00,010 and she figures out what's going on... 445 00:20:00,034 --> 00:20:01,702 He had on the exact same shoes as his father. 446 00:20:01,726 --> 00:20:02,899 What? 447 00:20:02,934 --> 00:20:04,591 One of them squeaked a little bit. 448 00:20:04,625 --> 00:20:06,765 Alan Arkin, who is the nastiest of the bunch, 449 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,560 decides he's gonna handle it by himself, 450 00:20:08,595 --> 00:20:11,805 and it leads to a really terrifying final half hour. 451 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:13,427 No! 452 00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:15,060 It is a different role for Audrey Hepburn, 453 00:20:15,084 --> 00:20:18,846 where she's not the ingenue and sort of like the ballerina, 454 00:20:18,881 --> 00:20:22,402 the very fragile lovely lady. 455 00:20:22,436 --> 00:20:24,990 But that's sort of an iconic horror trope. 456 00:20:25,025 --> 00:20:27,061 They will take these very fragile women 457 00:20:27,096 --> 00:20:30,064 and beat them and beat them and beat them and beat them... 458 00:20:30,099 --> 00:20:31,376 No! 459 00:20:31,411 --> 00:20:33,723 Until they become Ripley. 460 00:20:33,758 --> 00:20:35,967 And that is that feminist undertone 461 00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:38,556 that's always been there in horror. 462 00:20:38,590 --> 00:20:40,523 So it's very late at night, so she figures, 463 00:20:40,558 --> 00:20:42,456 well, she knows Alan Arkin's coming for her, 464 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:43,985 so she winds up smashing all the lights 465 00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:47,427 in the hall and her apartment, making everything pitch-black. 466 00:20:47,461 --> 00:20:49,325 And her husband's a photographer, 467 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,785 so there's this big thing of chemicals 468 00:20:50,809 --> 00:20:52,328 in the back of the apartment. 469 00:20:52,363 --> 00:20:53,605 So she winds up figuring out 470 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,065 a way to say, "Are you looking at me?" 471 00:20:55,089 --> 00:20:56,712 Mr. Roat. 472 00:20:56,746 --> 00:20:58,852 Are you looking at me? - Yes. 473 00:21:01,648 --> 00:21:02,890 And at the end, 474 00:21:02,925 --> 00:21:04,685 Audrey Hepburn stabs Alan Arkin. 475 00:21:06,653 --> 00:21:08,389 And she only forgot one light, and that's the refrigerator. 476 00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:09,804 So you have this one little light kind of shining 477 00:21:09,828 --> 00:21:12,417 through the apartment, and she's running to the right, 478 00:21:12,452 --> 00:21:13,763 and Alan Arkin just goes... 479 00:21:15,489 --> 00:21:17,457 And it is, like, still just a great moment 480 00:21:17,491 --> 00:21:19,611 to get an audience just to fly up and hit the ceiling. 481 00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:21,875 It's kind of goofy. 482 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:23,463 Like, the camera's in the wrong angle, 483 00:21:23,497 --> 00:21:25,085 kind of on the side. 484 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,984 Character moving away, someone jumping from left to right. 485 00:21:28,019 --> 00:21:29,158 It's such a weird thing. 486 00:21:29,192 --> 00:21:30,549 Like, you don't do that these days. 487 00:21:30,573 --> 00:21:31,574 Like, you would never... 488 00:21:31,609 --> 00:21:33,093 No one in their right mind 489 00:21:33,127 --> 00:21:34,933 would decide that's a good angle for the jump scare. 490 00:21:34,957 --> 00:21:37,062 For some reason, it's great. 491 00:21:37,097 --> 00:21:38,616 It's not just the jump. 492 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:40,618 It's the five minutes leading up to it. 493 00:21:40,652 --> 00:21:43,517 It's the cranking up and up and up and up. 494 00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:45,899 I think it's a lot more difficult than people realize. 495 00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:47,808 You can't just have constant jump scares by themselves. 496 00:21:47,832 --> 00:21:49,592 It doesn't work. 497 00:21:49,627 --> 00:21:51,560 You think you're watching a story 498 00:21:51,594 --> 00:21:53,734 about a blind girl dealing with a break-in 499 00:21:53,769 --> 00:21:55,046 in her apartment. 500 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,082 What you're really watching is a story 501 00:21:57,117 --> 00:21:59,119 about a woman with a disability 502 00:21:59,153 --> 00:22:01,846 who overcomes impossible odds to survive. 503 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,088 And that, I think, 504 00:22:03,123 --> 00:22:05,436 is what makes horror last through the ages-- 505 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:08,680 is when you get that combination of storytelling 506 00:22:08,715 --> 00:22:10,855 plus revelation. 507 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:20,105 "Don't Breathe" is about this bunch 508 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:22,660 of teenagers in Detroit 509 00:22:22,694 --> 00:22:24,834 in a real bad part of the neighborhood. 510 00:22:24,869 --> 00:22:26,698 And they try and figure out a way 511 00:22:26,733 --> 00:22:28,907 to get out of there, to get out of no future, in a way. 512 00:22:28,942 --> 00:22:31,703 As a side job, they rob houses. 513 00:22:31,738 --> 00:22:35,051 1837 Buena Vista Street. 514 00:22:35,086 --> 00:22:38,192 Guy who owns it-- no family, just him in the house. 515 00:22:38,227 --> 00:22:41,955 This guy is sitting on at least... 516 00:22:41,989 --> 00:22:44,854 300K. 517 00:22:44,889 --> 00:22:46,960 Boom! 518 00:22:46,994 --> 00:22:48,237 Is he blind? 519 00:22:48,271 --> 00:22:50,688 Lost his sight in Iraq or something. 520 00:22:50,722 --> 00:22:52,241 We do this tonight. 521 00:22:58,937 --> 00:23:01,733 Who-- who's there? 522 00:23:01,768 --> 00:23:02,917 They think it's an easy target 523 00:23:02,941 --> 00:23:05,185 because the owner of the house is blind. 524 00:23:05,219 --> 00:23:06,980 Stay right fucking there. 525 00:23:10,224 --> 00:23:12,064 I know what's in there, and I ain't leaving without it. 526 00:23:12,088 --> 00:23:13,124 You got me? 527 00:23:13,158 --> 00:23:14,884 But little did they know 528 00:23:14,919 --> 00:23:17,024 how many secrets there was gonna be in there. 529 00:23:20,890 --> 00:23:24,618 Obviously, the blind guys can be more capable than you think. 530 00:23:24,653 --> 00:23:27,103 But then there's just a lot more to it. 531 00:23:30,624 --> 00:23:32,799 You're in a house with a man who cannot see you. 532 00:23:38,943 --> 00:23:41,670 But he is highly skilled at killing you. 533 00:23:44,086 --> 00:23:48,193 I wanted this blind man to kick their ass every time. 534 00:23:48,228 --> 00:23:50,610 But as the movie went on, 535 00:23:50,644 --> 00:23:52,612 seeing what he was capable of... 536 00:23:58,031 --> 00:24:00,689 My goodness, what is going on? 537 00:24:00,723 --> 00:24:03,588 Actually, the blind man is a monster. 538 00:24:03,623 --> 00:24:05,694 The blind man wants-- 539 00:24:05,728 --> 00:24:08,213 at first, we think it's just to punish the girl 540 00:24:08,248 --> 00:24:11,078 that took away his daughter. 541 00:24:11,113 --> 00:24:12,873 She's the one who killed his daughter. 542 00:24:12,908 --> 00:24:14,634 But then we understand 543 00:24:14,668 --> 00:24:16,532 that basically he was forcing her 544 00:24:16,567 --> 00:24:18,154 to give back the life she took. 545 00:24:18,189 --> 00:24:21,157 Cindy took my child away from me. 546 00:24:21,192 --> 00:24:23,228 I thought... 547 00:24:23,263 --> 00:24:25,576 it's only fair... 548 00:24:28,199 --> 00:24:30,857 That she give me a new one. 549 00:24:30,891 --> 00:24:33,860 She was pregnant with my baby. 550 00:24:33,894 --> 00:24:36,690 Now, the turkey baster scene 551 00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:41,212 starts when you realize he's not gonna give up on his plan. 552 00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:43,870 So but now Rocky, the main character, 553 00:24:43,904 --> 00:24:46,666 having been the one that caused the death of Cindy, 554 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:49,013 now she's gonna have to take her place. 555 00:24:49,047 --> 00:24:50,773 I'm not a rapist. 556 00:24:52,948 --> 00:24:55,778 I never forced myself on her. 557 00:24:55,813 --> 00:24:57,090 And then he takes out-- 558 00:24:57,124 --> 00:24:59,333 You know, without saying much about it, 559 00:24:59,368 --> 00:25:01,059 you just discover what's happened 560 00:25:01,094 --> 00:25:04,269 as he takes the turkey baster and sucks something into it. 561 00:25:04,304 --> 00:25:06,962 And that's when I think most people start figuring it out. 562 00:25:08,619 --> 00:25:10,621 You can't do this to me. 563 00:25:10,655 --> 00:25:13,037 Not everybody, which I think is great about some scenes. 564 00:25:13,071 --> 00:25:15,384 It's like, there's two guys in the audience that gets it. 565 00:25:15,418 --> 00:25:17,189 They go, like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's happening?" 566 00:25:17,213 --> 00:25:20,113 There's nothing a man cannot do once he accepts 567 00:25:20,147 --> 00:25:21,735 the fact that there is no God. 568 00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:23,737 And then, like, five more in the back. 569 00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,092 And then the whole audience start, 570 00:25:25,118 --> 00:25:26,637 like, talking and screaming. 571 00:25:26,671 --> 00:25:28,649 But it's not a jump scare. It's completely opposite. 572 00:25:28,673 --> 00:25:30,157 It's just, like, this slow wave, 573 00:25:30,192 --> 00:25:32,643 as people start realizing what's happening. 574 00:25:32,677 --> 00:25:34,127 You'll breed well. - No. 575 00:25:34,161 --> 00:25:36,163 Get away from me. 576 00:25:36,198 --> 00:25:37,268 No! 577 00:25:37,302 --> 00:25:39,995 Every woman's worst nightmare, 578 00:25:40,029 --> 00:25:43,757 seeing that, all the way to the pubic hair 579 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:46,311 floating inside the turkey baster, 580 00:25:46,346 --> 00:25:48,417 which is quite grotesque. 581 00:25:48,451 --> 00:25:51,282 Yeah, he really got our attention on that one. 582 00:25:51,316 --> 00:25:54,043 That shot-- bleh! 583 00:25:54,078 --> 00:25:56,011 Bleh! I can't take it. 584 00:25:56,045 --> 00:25:58,151 It's so gross. 585 00:25:58,185 --> 00:26:00,429 That was one of those moments 586 00:26:00,463 --> 00:26:03,087 where you're like, "Man, really? 587 00:26:03,121 --> 00:26:04,744 "We went there? 588 00:26:04,778 --> 00:26:07,022 Holy crap, I hope this guy gets his ass kicked." 589 00:26:09,783 --> 00:26:12,441 And then it gets quiet, and you go, "This is it. 590 00:26:12,475 --> 00:26:14,201 This is how this is gonna go." 591 00:26:14,236 --> 00:26:16,928 And then, thank God, there's a twist. 592 00:26:20,725 --> 00:26:22,831 Alex, played by Dylan Minnette, comes back 593 00:26:22,865 --> 00:26:25,661 and save her right before he can do it. 594 00:26:25,696 --> 00:26:27,328 And then I think the best part of the scene-- 595 00:26:27,352 --> 00:26:29,216 what got the biggest reaction, 596 00:26:29,251 --> 00:26:30,942 which is when Rocky gets the chance 597 00:26:30,977 --> 00:26:32,875 to get revenge, grabs the turkey baster, 598 00:26:32,910 --> 00:26:34,335 and shoves it down the blind man's throat, 599 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,326 and he gags on his own semen. 600 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,914 How's that taste? 601 00:26:36,948 --> 00:26:39,226 The first time we show it to an audience 602 00:26:39,261 --> 00:26:41,746 in a theater, all the ladies were jumping and screaming, 603 00:26:41,781 --> 00:26:43,230 like, "Yeah! Fuck, yeah!" 604 00:26:43,265 --> 00:26:44,473 Like, "Let's go." 605 00:26:44,507 --> 00:26:46,717 And all the men were, like... 606 00:26:46,751 --> 00:26:48,995 Like, completely grossed out by it, 607 00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:50,755 which I find hilarious still. 608 00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:03,423 I can't imagine anything more terrifying 609 00:27:03,457 --> 00:27:07,116 than waking up in a dark, dirty dungeon 610 00:27:07,151 --> 00:27:10,948 with just a table of tools next to you-- 611 00:27:10,982 --> 00:27:14,192 and not just surgical tools, like, hardware tools. 612 00:27:14,227 --> 00:27:16,125 You have no idea what's going on. 613 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,748 You don't know how you got there. 614 00:27:17,782 --> 00:27:19,163 You're alone. 615 00:27:19,197 --> 00:27:21,130 It doesn't seem like anyone can hear you scream. 616 00:27:21,165 --> 00:27:23,443 And then a person 617 00:27:23,477 --> 00:27:27,274 in dirty medical gear and clothing comes in, 618 00:27:27,309 --> 00:27:29,794 and they're not even acknowledging you, 619 00:27:29,829 --> 00:27:30,899 other than a quick glance. 620 00:27:33,798 --> 00:27:36,145 And he just starts drilling into parts of the body, 621 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:39,010 intentionally in places that aren't gonna kill him, 622 00:27:39,045 --> 00:27:43,532 that are just going to torture him and really hurt. 623 00:27:43,566 --> 00:27:45,983 My God! 624 00:27:46,017 --> 00:27:48,502 The first thing they do is to drill in his leg. 625 00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:50,228 And you think you're not gonna see it 626 00:27:50,263 --> 00:27:52,310 because most people will have never show it at the time. 627 00:27:52,334 --> 00:27:54,336 And then they cut to close-up of the drill. 628 00:27:56,165 --> 00:28:00,031 And then there's this shot of when he left the drill, 629 00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:03,172 and you see just flesh around the drill bit. 630 00:28:03,207 --> 00:28:04,311 It wasn't just blood. 631 00:28:04,346 --> 00:28:06,037 It just left the reminders of it. 632 00:28:06,072 --> 00:28:08,419 It was gruesome, realistic, grounded, 633 00:28:08,453 --> 00:28:10,421 and also the whole concept of the movie 634 00:28:10,455 --> 00:28:11,767 comes together in that scene. 635 00:28:11,802 --> 00:28:13,562 I have money. I'll fucking pay you-- 636 00:28:13,596 --> 00:28:15,357 ten times, two times, whatever you want. 637 00:28:15,391 --> 00:28:17,048 Pay me? - Yes. 638 00:28:17,083 --> 00:28:18,774 No one is paying me. 639 00:28:18,809 --> 00:28:21,881 In fact, I'm the one paying them. 640 00:28:21,915 --> 00:28:24,400 You think that you're watching a torture-porn film, 641 00:28:24,435 --> 00:28:26,126 but you're really getting a commentary 642 00:28:26,161 --> 00:28:27,507 on the class system. 643 00:28:27,541 --> 00:28:31,028 And you don't realize that until weeks later, 644 00:28:31,062 --> 00:28:32,961 and kind of the imagery has faded away, 645 00:28:32,995 --> 00:28:35,308 that the message has stayed with you, 646 00:28:35,342 --> 00:28:38,207 this idea that, "There's nothing you can pay me. 647 00:28:38,242 --> 00:28:39,899 I'm paying to do this." 648 00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:41,221 For 50 grand, she better be worth it, 649 00:28:41,245 --> 00:28:42,487 know what I mean? 650 00:28:42,522 --> 00:28:44,213 This idea of money and power and youth. 651 00:28:44,248 --> 00:28:46,595 This is something you never forget, right? 652 00:28:46,629 --> 00:28:48,355 Right? 653 00:28:48,390 --> 00:28:50,495 And those of us who want to destroy youth 654 00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:54,396 and what we would pay for that and the dark side of tourism. 655 00:28:54,430 --> 00:28:55,545 Get your own fucking room. 656 00:28:55,569 --> 00:28:57,606 I paid for this. 657 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,437 All of that heightened MFA thought. 658 00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:05,925 But nothing compares to the drill going into the muscle. 659 00:29:05,959 --> 00:29:08,962 And both of those things exist simultaneously. 660 00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:11,413 That's what horror gives us-- is both. 661 00:29:15,555 --> 00:29:19,524 I feel like something bad is gonna happen to me. 662 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,010 I feel like something bad has happened. 663 00:29:22,044 --> 00:29:25,530 It hasn't reached me yet, but it's on its way. 664 00:29:25,565 --> 00:29:28,430 "Lake Mungo" is one of the greatest horror movies 665 00:29:28,464 --> 00:29:30,156 ever made, period. 666 00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:33,366 And whenever people ask me for horror recommendations, 667 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,230 it's the first film I recommend. 668 00:29:35,264 --> 00:29:37,888 Police continue to hold grave fears 669 00:29:37,922 --> 00:29:39,890 for 16-year-old Alice Palmer, who disappeared 670 00:29:39,924 --> 00:29:41,270 while picnicking with her family. 671 00:29:41,305 --> 00:29:45,999 It's shot like a sit-down interview documentary 672 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:49,071 about a family whose daughter drowned, 673 00:29:49,106 --> 00:29:51,073 and then the strange events 674 00:29:51,108 --> 00:29:52,937 that started to happen in their house 675 00:29:52,972 --> 00:29:55,871 that may or may not be a haunting. 676 00:29:55,906 --> 00:29:58,080 What was in the April 28th photograph? 677 00:29:58,115 --> 00:29:59,979 Well... 678 00:30:00,013 --> 00:30:03,948 it would appear that Alice is standing against the fence. 679 00:30:03,983 --> 00:30:06,951 And what's great is there's all these different aesthetics. 680 00:30:06,986 --> 00:30:08,988 There's a very classical documentary aesthetic, 681 00:30:09,022 --> 00:30:10,437 very formal. 682 00:30:10,472 --> 00:30:12,025 Then there's a lot of re-creation 683 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:13,302 and nature photography, 684 00:30:13,337 --> 00:30:14,510 and that does a great job 685 00:30:14,545 --> 00:30:16,547 at contrasting the documentary footage, 686 00:30:16,581 --> 00:30:18,376 because it has a stillness and a weirdness 687 00:30:18,411 --> 00:30:20,240 and a Lynchian quality. 688 00:30:20,275 --> 00:30:23,036 Everything just feels off or feels not like it should be, 689 00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:24,451 like a disruption. 690 00:30:24,486 --> 00:30:27,316 It felt a little strange having my mother there 691 00:30:27,351 --> 00:30:29,318 for Alice. 692 00:30:29,353 --> 00:30:32,666 It just didn't feel like the right order of things. 693 00:30:32,701 --> 00:30:35,083 I think that's what horror is-- like, a complete disruption 694 00:30:35,117 --> 00:30:37,154 of how you think things should go. 695 00:30:37,188 --> 00:30:40,467 And we discover that before her death, 696 00:30:40,502 --> 00:30:42,469 their daughter had gone on a class trip 697 00:30:42,504 --> 00:30:44,471 with her friends to Lake Mungo, 698 00:30:44,506 --> 00:30:46,232 which is out in the desert, 699 00:30:46,266 --> 00:30:48,372 and she had come back from that disturbed. 700 00:30:48,406 --> 00:30:51,996 "I was overcome by this intense sadness. 701 00:30:52,031 --> 00:30:55,517 "Then the sadness changed to fear. 702 00:30:55,551 --> 00:30:58,313 And that kicked off the last weeks of her life, 703 00:30:58,347 --> 00:31:00,487 where she was afraid and depressed 704 00:31:00,522 --> 00:31:02,351 and forlorn and withdrawn. 705 00:31:02,386 --> 00:31:04,491 And so a lot of it's trying to figure out 706 00:31:04,526 --> 00:31:06,597 what was going on in her mind and emotionally 707 00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:08,185 that led up to her death? 708 00:31:08,219 --> 00:31:10,981 There are twists and turns along the way. 709 00:31:11,015 --> 00:31:14,087 What seems like a haunting then starts to seem like a hoax, 710 00:31:14,122 --> 00:31:15,986 but then starts to seem like something else. 711 00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:17,549 There was a second figure in the hallway, 712 00:31:17,573 --> 00:31:20,093 and I realized it was our neighbor. 713 00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:22,613 And then you think you might be poking 714 00:31:22,647 --> 00:31:25,133 at a murder mystery involving the neighbor. 715 00:31:25,167 --> 00:31:27,549 And then all of that, though, 716 00:31:27,583 --> 00:31:31,104 is a red herring for what the story is truly about, 717 00:31:31,139 --> 00:31:33,969 which is a premonition. 718 00:31:34,004 --> 00:31:35,660 It all culminates 719 00:31:35,695 --> 00:31:38,077 in the discovery of a cell phone 720 00:31:38,111 --> 00:31:39,733 that has a video. 721 00:31:39,768 --> 00:31:43,565 They then show you this phone footage 722 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,739 that she shot while she was in the desert, 723 00:31:45,774 --> 00:31:48,052 where she thought she saw someone out there 724 00:31:48,087 --> 00:31:51,228 in the emptiness and walked toward them. 725 00:31:51,262 --> 00:31:54,748 This single shot on the phone is, I think, 726 00:31:54,783 --> 00:31:57,372 one of the greatest scares I've ever seen in a film. 727 00:31:57,406 --> 00:32:01,307 When I saw what was on the phone, 728 00:32:01,341 --> 00:32:04,724 I physically jumped up off my couch, and I said, "Nope." 729 00:32:04,758 --> 00:32:06,657 It was a physical reaction 730 00:32:06,691 --> 00:32:10,799 I had to this image that just was slow-walked into my face. 731 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:14,734 What she saw out there in the desert... 732 00:32:14,768 --> 00:32:16,598 was herself. 733 00:32:16,632 --> 00:32:18,714 I recognized the face as soon as I saw it on the phone. 734 00:32:18,738 --> 00:32:20,326 It was the same face 735 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,501 of the body that I had identified on the dead. 736 00:32:23,536 --> 00:32:28,644 And she just had this passing encounter with her own fate. 737 00:32:30,439 --> 00:32:32,200 It's really scary in the moment 738 00:32:32,234 --> 00:32:34,271 but also feels like a manifestation of the movie 739 00:32:34,305 --> 00:32:36,652 being about, really, death coming and, you know, 740 00:32:36,687 --> 00:32:38,758 the looming specter of death always 741 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:40,587 coming for you or at you or behind you 742 00:32:40,622 --> 00:32:42,279 and how it will come for you 743 00:32:42,313 --> 00:32:44,246 and then devastate the people around you. 744 00:32:44,281 --> 00:32:46,352 It's a simple concept, but you see it 745 00:32:46,386 --> 00:32:49,044 in "It Follows" and "The Ring" and "Pulse" 746 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:50,770 and all these movies that seem to be 747 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:52,737 about just the oncoming specter of death. 748 00:32:52,772 --> 00:32:56,120 And for some reason, it never goes out of style. 749 00:32:56,155 --> 00:32:58,709 I think it's one of the best horror films ever made, 750 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:02,264 and it was a huge inspiration on me 751 00:33:02,299 --> 00:33:04,853 in "The Haunting of Hill House." 752 00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:13,758 I started seeing her when I was a kid. 753 00:33:13,793 --> 00:33:15,795 People who talk to me about "Hill House" 754 00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:18,108 talk to me about two things. 755 00:33:18,142 --> 00:33:20,489 One is the depth of the family drama, 756 00:33:20,524 --> 00:33:22,215 and two is the Bent-Neck Lady. 757 00:33:24,217 --> 00:33:27,255 Nell, from a young age, is haunted by this ghost 758 00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:28,670 that she calls the Bent-Neck Lady 759 00:33:28,704 --> 00:33:32,087 It was a bent-neck lady. 760 00:33:32,122 --> 00:33:34,710 And there are different points in her childhood 761 00:33:34,745 --> 00:33:36,781 where she sees her. 762 00:33:36,816 --> 00:33:40,199 And Nell grows up, but she always remembers her 763 00:33:40,233 --> 00:33:42,891 and believes that she wants to ruin her life. 764 00:33:42,925 --> 00:33:46,688 I actually hadn't seen her since Arthur and I met. 765 00:33:46,722 --> 00:33:49,208 And then she killed him. 766 00:33:51,831 --> 00:33:53,798 The Bent-Neck Lady was an image 767 00:33:53,833 --> 00:33:55,835 I thought worked really, really well 768 00:33:55,869 --> 00:33:58,562 because it took the attention off of her face. 769 00:33:58,596 --> 00:34:01,772 She could be instantly recognizable in silhouette. 770 00:34:01,806 --> 00:34:05,327 And that was critically important, because at no point 771 00:34:05,362 --> 00:34:07,778 could Nell or the audience recognize 772 00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:10,470 the Beck-Neck Lady as who she really was. 773 00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:15,717 And then at the end of episode five, 774 00:34:15,751 --> 00:34:17,546 we have this beautiful scene 775 00:34:17,581 --> 00:34:19,858 where she goes back to Hill House, 776 00:34:19,893 --> 00:34:22,586 and we see what she's imagining in her mind, 777 00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:25,451 which is this gorgeous moment where she's dancing 778 00:34:25,485 --> 00:34:27,936 through Hill House, and... 779 00:34:27,970 --> 00:34:30,525 she seems to finally have found some kind of happiness. 780 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,215 And it's really beautiful. 781 00:34:32,251 --> 00:34:34,287 But it's intercut with the fact 782 00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:37,358 that it's just this lonely little figure twirling around 783 00:34:37,394 --> 00:34:40,673 in this completely dilapidated house. 784 00:34:40,707 --> 00:34:44,159 And she goes up the stairs of the library, 785 00:34:44,193 --> 00:34:46,436 and she sees her mother, her dead mom. 786 00:34:46,472 --> 00:34:47,794 And her mother gives her a necklace 787 00:34:47,818 --> 00:34:49,440 and puts it around her neck. 788 00:34:49,474 --> 00:34:51,201 And we cut to reality, 789 00:34:51,235 --> 00:34:53,410 where she's been putting a noose around her neck. 790 00:34:53,443 --> 00:34:55,376 And she has this moment of recognition. 791 00:34:55,412 --> 00:34:56,653 Mommy. 792 00:34:56,689 --> 00:34:58,829 And then she falls. It's too late. 793 00:35:00,658 --> 00:35:02,695 And as her neck breaks 794 00:35:02,729 --> 00:35:04,283 and she's on the end of the rope, 795 00:35:04,317 --> 00:35:06,423 she drops through her own past. 796 00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:10,875 The shrapnel of her death in that moment 797 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:12,912 disburses out in all directions, 798 00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:15,190 including back in time. 799 00:35:15,225 --> 00:35:18,193 And those little pieces puncture her life. 800 00:35:18,228 --> 00:35:19,712 And all of those moments 801 00:35:19,746 --> 00:35:21,886 where she thought she had this visitor come in 802 00:35:21,921 --> 00:35:25,718 were really just that explosion... 803 00:35:25,752 --> 00:35:28,721 reverberating backward, and it was always just her. 804 00:35:28,755 --> 00:35:32,552 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! 805 00:35:32,587 --> 00:35:35,693 At the core of it, you have, "My God, she never knew." 806 00:35:35,728 --> 00:35:38,800 She screamed so loud, it hurt my ears. 807 00:35:38,834 --> 00:35:40,560 I was trying to pull 808 00:35:40,595 --> 00:35:43,391 from all of the movies that I loved, 809 00:35:43,425 --> 00:35:44,909 especially ghost stories. 810 00:35:44,944 --> 00:35:47,015 I absolutely was thinking 811 00:35:47,049 --> 00:35:48,913 about that beautiful twist in "Lake Mungo" 812 00:35:48,948 --> 00:35:50,605 and in "Don't Look Now," 813 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,366 but wanting to try to find a new gear for it, 814 00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:55,472 wanting to try to expand on it. 815 00:35:55,506 --> 00:35:57,853 I really wanted to play with this idea 816 00:35:57,888 --> 00:36:01,616 that space and time in a haunted house 817 00:36:01,650 --> 00:36:04,343 don't work the way we expect them to, 818 00:36:04,377 --> 00:36:06,724 and that the laws of physics as we understand them 819 00:36:06,759 --> 00:36:09,451 don't apply inside Hill House. 820 00:36:09,486 --> 00:36:11,419 I don't know a lot of people 821 00:36:11,453 --> 00:36:15,354 who would put time travel and ghost story and family drama 822 00:36:15,388 --> 00:36:17,632 into a blender and see what happens. 823 00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:19,910 And when it does, you get this incredible milkshake 824 00:36:19,944 --> 00:36:22,015 of terror. 825 00:36:39,516 --> 00:36:41,966 What I really appreciate of the opening 826 00:36:42,001 --> 00:36:43,554 of "It: Chapter One" 827 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:46,626 is that it really has a beautiful sense 828 00:36:46,661 --> 00:36:49,595 of an older film through the score, 829 00:36:49,629 --> 00:36:51,459 the way it's shot, 830 00:36:51,493 --> 00:36:53,564 the cute relationship of the two brothers. 831 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,085 It does open like you're gonna watch "The Goonies." 832 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,847 The older sibling is pretending to have a cough 833 00:37:00,882 --> 00:37:03,367 because he doesn't really want to go out 834 00:37:03,402 --> 00:37:05,369 with his little brother and get wet. 835 00:37:05,404 --> 00:37:07,095 I'd come with you if I weren't... 836 00:37:07,129 --> 00:37:08,786 Dying. 837 00:37:08,821 --> 00:37:10,478 Fine. 838 00:37:10,512 --> 00:37:13,101 So he sends him off with a lot of love... 839 00:37:13,135 --> 00:37:15,862 Be careful. 840 00:37:15,897 --> 00:37:18,693 But then doesn't see him again. 841 00:37:21,143 --> 00:37:24,354 We shot that for about five days. 842 00:37:24,388 --> 00:37:28,323 And it was covered from every angle possible 843 00:37:28,358 --> 00:37:30,325 and every lens possible. 844 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,534 And Andy, I think, 845 00:37:32,569 --> 00:37:35,365 ended up with a masterful scene. 846 00:37:40,473 --> 00:37:42,061 Hiya, Georgie. 847 00:37:44,926 --> 00:37:48,343 I'm Pennywise the Dancing Clown. 848 00:37:48,378 --> 00:37:50,103 If someone said to you, 849 00:37:50,138 --> 00:37:52,899 "No, the scare is a clown in a storm drain," 850 00:37:52,934 --> 00:37:55,799 you're like, "I don't get it." 851 00:37:55,833 --> 00:37:58,491 But the second you get the right filmmaker in there 852 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:00,113 and the right writer in there, 853 00:38:00,148 --> 00:38:02,806 it becomes this kind of really beautiful combination 854 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,015 of absurd and terrifying. 855 00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:06,948 What are you doing in the sewer? 856 00:38:06,982 --> 00:38:10,089 A storm blew me away... 857 00:38:10,123 --> 00:38:13,541 blew the whole circus away. 858 00:38:13,575 --> 00:38:15,025 The same creature can be scary, 859 00:38:15,059 --> 00:38:17,993 or it can be laughable, depending on how you light it 860 00:38:18,028 --> 00:38:21,031 and what angle of face he's doing, 861 00:38:21,065 --> 00:38:23,585 how the light reflects on them. 862 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:25,863 With Pennywise, it was very precise. 863 00:38:25,898 --> 00:38:27,382 One of the things, 864 00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:29,557 you know, that gives me the creeps about eyes 865 00:38:29,591 --> 00:38:30,937 is when they're lit from below. 866 00:38:30,972 --> 00:38:34,493 When the light hits the lower section of the eyeball, 867 00:38:34,527 --> 00:38:36,529 then you got something very special. 868 00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:39,014 Pop. Pop, pop, pop. 869 00:38:39,049 --> 00:38:42,501 Pop, pop. 870 00:38:47,816 --> 00:38:50,750 In that scene, we present Pennywise as someone 871 00:38:50,785 --> 00:38:53,477 that is unpredictable. 872 00:38:53,512 --> 00:38:55,168 He has these changes of behavior 873 00:38:55,203 --> 00:38:57,101 that are very hard to understand. 874 00:38:57,136 --> 00:39:00,415 He's mocking the kid. He's playing the kid. 875 00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:02,590 I should get going now. 876 00:39:02,624 --> 00:39:04,937 Without your boat? 877 00:39:04,971 --> 00:39:06,663 You don't want to lose it, Georgie. 878 00:39:06,697 --> 00:39:07,836 Bill's gonna kill you. 879 00:39:10,874 --> 00:39:13,117 Here, take it. 880 00:39:26,855 --> 00:39:30,065 But then you see this little boy's arm-- bleh! 881 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,653 Like, you see all this gore. 882 00:39:31,688 --> 00:39:35,761 And I did not expect it to go that gory. 883 00:39:35,795 --> 00:39:37,808 The world has teeth and can bite you at any second. 884 00:39:37,832 --> 00:39:40,800 It's so sudden and so unfair 885 00:39:40,835 --> 00:39:43,734 and so plausible in its absurdity 886 00:39:43,769 --> 00:39:45,218 that it sticks with you. 887 00:39:45,253 --> 00:39:47,635 It could have been a lot bloodier. 888 00:39:47,669 --> 00:39:49,026 It could have been less bloody. 889 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:52,467 But I think he got the right balance for it, 890 00:39:52,502 --> 00:39:55,263 and that's why it's iconic. 891 00:39:58,818 --> 00:40:02,063 Billy! 892 00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:17,975 "I Saw the Devil" 893 00:40:18,010 --> 00:40:20,530 is just another fantastic example 894 00:40:20,564 --> 00:40:24,292 of how unapologetic Korean films are. 895 00:40:25,845 --> 00:40:30,505 Absolutely vicious, ultraviolent... 896 00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:33,094 one of the best pieces of revenge cinema of all time. 897 00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:43,035 That opening scene, it's a make-or-break thing. 898 00:40:43,069 --> 00:40:45,037 If you don't make it past the first 15 minutes, 899 00:40:45,071 --> 00:40:46,877 you're not gonna be able to take the rest of the movie. 900 00:40:46,901 --> 00:40:49,559 That opening sequence of the car is really stunning 901 00:40:49,593 --> 00:40:52,113 because of the snow. 902 00:40:52,147 --> 00:40:54,598 There's a great aspect with the windshield wipers 903 00:40:54,633 --> 00:40:56,911 and what you're gonna see and what you're not gonna see. 904 00:40:58,706 --> 00:41:01,087 Starting out without any context of anything, 905 00:41:01,122 --> 00:41:04,608 you are in the story of this girl... 906 00:41:04,643 --> 00:41:06,576 stuck in the snow... 907 00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:08,578 Without help. 908 00:41:17,932 --> 00:41:20,935 As a woman, that's really scary. 909 00:41:24,179 --> 00:41:26,250 It already sets you up in a situation 910 00:41:26,285 --> 00:41:28,805 that you believe every second of it. 911 00:41:47,824 --> 00:41:50,067 It's almost really hard to describe the scene 912 00:41:50,102 --> 00:41:53,243 because it's painful to watch. 913 00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:56,695 And it's too real. 914 00:41:59,042 --> 00:42:03,391 That opening scene was brutal... 915 00:42:03,425 --> 00:42:06,843 but also the beauty, 'cause, of course, Korean filmmaking 916 00:42:06,877 --> 00:42:08,638 is always beautiful at the same time. 917 00:42:08,672 --> 00:42:11,779 Just the dragging on the snow her body, 918 00:42:11,813 --> 00:42:14,333 and you see the trail of blood and how much it stands out. 919 00:42:14,367 --> 00:42:16,749 It's visceral. 920 00:42:16,784 --> 00:42:18,337 And it stays with you. 921 00:42:20,753 --> 00:42:22,686 In Kim Jee-woon's style in general, 922 00:42:22,721 --> 00:42:25,931 there's this tension between the precision 923 00:42:25,965 --> 00:42:29,624 of the way that he frames 924 00:42:29,659 --> 00:42:31,764 and edits his images... 925 00:42:35,906 --> 00:42:40,739 But the actual content of them is just madness. 926 00:42:40,773 --> 00:42:43,845 Thinking about that image of the victim's naked body 927 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,985 in the body bag across the frame. 928 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,056 And we think she might be dead. 929 00:42:48,091 --> 00:42:49,920 But then she jerks. 930 00:42:49,955 --> 00:42:52,233 And, of course, which makes us all jerk in the audience. 931 00:42:54,856 --> 00:42:56,040 What's also interesting, I think, 932 00:42:56,064 --> 00:42:59,412 about the actual murder is that we don't see 933 00:42:59,447 --> 00:43:01,794 the actual moment of death. 934 00:43:10,354 --> 00:43:12,874 It's just last conversation. 935 00:43:12,909 --> 00:43:14,186 The desperate moments 936 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:16,706 of a woman who knows she is about to die. 937 00:43:24,023 --> 00:43:26,923 Rendered in shot/reverse shot in these close-ups. 938 00:43:26,957 --> 00:43:30,996 And then ultimately, drops the knife... 939 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:32,307 cuts to black. 940 00:43:32,342 --> 00:43:33,446 It's one of the few moments 941 00:43:33,481 --> 00:43:34,896 that we don't see in gory detail. 942 00:43:34,931 --> 00:43:37,692 In that moment, we're forced to, you know, 943 00:43:37,727 --> 00:43:40,143 radically empathize with her position. 944 00:43:40,177 --> 00:43:41,834 That's death for you, right? 945 00:43:41,869 --> 00:43:44,250 The lights go out, and that's it. 946 00:43:54,019 --> 00:43:58,264 We'll tear your soul apart. 947 00:43:59,990 --> 00:44:01,405 There's probably not a horror fan 948 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,718 in the whole world that hasn't seen "Hellraiser." 949 00:44:03,753 --> 00:44:07,308 "Hellraiser" was a $1 million movie from Clive Barker, 950 00:44:07,342 --> 00:44:10,138 a horror novelist who'd never made a movie before. 951 00:44:10,173 --> 00:44:13,107 And it had some of the most visceral, 952 00:44:13,141 --> 00:44:16,248 gut-wrenching moments ever put to film. 953 00:44:16,282 --> 00:44:18,422 A lot of, like, horror films 954 00:44:18,457 --> 00:44:21,149 that combine sex and death before that 955 00:44:21,184 --> 00:44:23,358 have a puritanical edge, 956 00:44:23,393 --> 00:44:26,189 where it's like, you're being punished for having sex. 957 00:44:26,223 --> 00:44:28,432 And "Hellraiser" is doing something different. 958 00:44:28,467 --> 00:44:30,469 It combines all of this imagery 959 00:44:30,503 --> 00:44:33,092 of BDSM into a horror film 960 00:44:33,127 --> 00:44:35,888 and essentially selling you on this idea that there 961 00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:37,890 are, like, pleasures of the flesh 962 00:44:37,925 --> 00:44:39,305 that you could never know 963 00:44:39,340 --> 00:44:42,032 unless you have this box 964 00:44:42,067 --> 00:44:44,552 that will open a portal to another dimension. 965 00:44:44,586 --> 00:44:47,175 Take it. It's yours. 966 00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:49,384 It always was. 967 00:44:49,419 --> 00:44:52,560 You have to figure Frank first opened that box 968 00:44:52,594 --> 00:44:54,873 because he was bored by everything 969 00:44:54,907 --> 00:44:56,909 that he had done here on Earth. 970 00:44:56,944 --> 00:45:00,188 Like, he had done every level of sadomasochistic fetishism 971 00:45:00,223 --> 00:45:02,397 he could come across, to the point where he's like, 972 00:45:02,432 --> 00:45:05,228 "Well, I wonderful if aliens can do anything to me." 973 00:45:06,919 --> 00:45:09,888 The body is not a temple in Clive Barker's mind. 974 00:45:09,922 --> 00:45:11,786 The body is meat. 975 00:45:11,821 --> 00:45:14,375 The flesh only holds it all together. 976 00:45:14,409 --> 00:45:18,551 And the flesh is ripped asunder in "Hellraiser." 977 00:45:18,586 --> 00:45:22,176 The Cenobites gave me an experience beyond limits. 978 00:45:22,210 --> 00:45:25,558 Pain and pleasure, indivisible. 979 00:45:25,593 --> 00:45:29,183 There's this moment at the end of the movie when Frank, 980 00:45:29,217 --> 00:45:31,047 now kind of within the skin of his brother, 981 00:45:31,081 --> 00:45:33,221 whatever kind of kinky thrills he was in, 982 00:45:33,256 --> 00:45:35,085 the Faustian pact is that the Cenobites 983 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,812 are gonna come and rip you apart. 984 00:45:37,847 --> 00:45:39,883 The Cenobites themselves-- 985 00:45:39,918 --> 00:45:42,299 they're obviously kind of, like, agents of hell 986 00:45:42,334 --> 00:45:45,302 and there to kind of, like, take people's souls 987 00:45:45,337 --> 00:45:47,063 and damn them for eternity. 988 00:45:47,097 --> 00:45:50,238 But they also don't seem like the bad guys. 989 00:45:50,273 --> 00:45:53,448 It's almost like they're the fetish cops. 990 00:45:53,483 --> 00:45:55,278 It's like, "Frank, you have gone too far. 991 00:45:55,312 --> 00:45:56,900 You must be destroyed." 992 00:45:56,935 --> 00:45:59,006 So they show up with a lot of hooks. 993 00:46:01,422 --> 00:46:03,355 A lot of hooks. 994 00:46:05,391 --> 00:46:07,600 Frank. 995 00:46:07,635 --> 00:46:08,636 No. 996 00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:10,638 Frank realizes, "Fuck." 997 00:46:10,672 --> 00:46:13,054 "The Cenobites are here. 998 00:46:13,089 --> 00:46:14,607 There's no escaping this." 999 00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:33,212 But the moment that is, like, that standout, 1000 00:46:33,247 --> 00:46:35,111 memorable moment of "Hellraiser"... 1001 00:46:35,145 --> 00:46:36,985 Is when he has his final line, where he says... 1002 00:46:37,009 --> 00:46:40,599 Jesus wept. 1003 00:46:40,633 --> 00:46:43,326 I didn't find out until much, much later 1004 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,121 that in other countries, 1005 00:46:45,155 --> 00:46:47,882 "Jesus wept" is almost a colloquial saying 1006 00:46:47,917 --> 00:46:49,332 that's a little sarcastic. 1007 00:46:49,366 --> 00:46:52,507 It kind of means, like, "brother" or "boy." 1008 00:46:52,542 --> 00:46:56,304 It's almost as if Frank is kind of digging 1009 00:46:56,339 --> 00:46:58,341 what's being done to him in those final moments, 1010 00:46:58,375 --> 00:47:00,308 and he's, like, "Yeah." 1011 00:47:00,343 --> 00:47:02,345 You only see Frank's face, 1012 00:47:02,379 --> 00:47:04,588 but I would hazard a guess that Frank is fully erect 1013 00:47:04,623 --> 00:47:06,314 at that point when he dies. 1014 00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:08,269 It's like, for him, that's the perfect way to go. 1015 00:47:12,527 --> 00:47:15,945 BDSM and kink communities are frequently dismissed 1016 00:47:15,979 --> 00:47:18,913 as just being outside of society 1017 00:47:18,948 --> 00:47:21,260 or outside of sexual norms, 1018 00:47:21,295 --> 00:47:24,401 but are exploring how our bodies 1019 00:47:24,436 --> 00:47:27,301 can be keys to greater consciousness 1020 00:47:27,335 --> 00:47:29,544 or altered consciousness in a way. 1021 00:47:29,579 --> 00:47:33,307 And so there's almost this kind of impish, bratty quality 1022 00:47:33,341 --> 00:47:35,516 of what Clive Barker is doing 1023 00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:37,967 to sort of say, like, "You think we're freaks. 1024 00:47:38,001 --> 00:47:40,279 "You think we're evil. You think that we're demons. 1025 00:47:40,314 --> 00:47:42,385 "Then, sure. Sure. 1026 00:47:42,419 --> 00:47:45,353 "I'll give you that narrative on a silver platter. 1027 00:47:45,388 --> 00:47:47,252 "And it'll be fun for you to watch, 1028 00:47:47,286 --> 00:47:50,565 and it'll be fun for us to see you watch." 1029 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,740 But that transgressive quality 1030 00:47:52,774 --> 00:47:54,466 went over a lot of people's heads. 1031 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:56,019 Come to Daddy. 1032 00:47:56,054 --> 00:47:58,021 Clive Barker is telling his audience, 1033 00:47:58,056 --> 00:47:59,505 "If you know, you know." 1034 00:47:59,540 --> 00:48:02,198 And a lot of his audience does know. 78725

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