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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,824 --> 00:00:43,956 Come on, big fella. 2 00:00:43,999 --> 00:00:45,479 That's it, kitty. 3 00:00:45,523 --> 00:00:47,090 Horror movies have a wonderful way 4 00:00:47,133 --> 00:00:50,745 of making you know that you'll be okay... 5 00:00:54,575 --> 00:00:57,143 But you're kind of indulging in these feelings 6 00:00:57,187 --> 00:01:01,147 of powerlessness and fear, like roller coasters, 7 00:01:01,191 --> 00:01:03,628 where you get to the top of that hill and you're like, 8 00:01:03,671 --> 00:01:05,151 "I shouldn't have-- why did I do this? 9 00:01:05,195 --> 00:01:06,650 "I should not have done this. Here I go. 10 00:01:06,674 --> 00:01:08,850 I'm doing it! Here I go!" 11 00:01:14,594 --> 00:01:16,075 "But I'm gonna be all right. 12 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:17,879 It was good to get that out of the system." 13 00:01:20,384 --> 00:01:21,994 That's what I love about horror movies. 14 00:01:22,037 --> 00:01:24,649 It does strike this primal terror... 15 00:01:24,692 --> 00:01:26,651 And yet, 16 00:01:26,694 --> 00:01:27,826 it lets you know, like... 17 00:01:27,869 --> 00:01:29,784 You'll be okay. 18 00:01:29,828 --> 00:01:31,197 You'll be all right. You'll survive. 19 00:01:31,221 --> 00:01:32,613 Make sure you have popcorn. 20 00:01:39,445 --> 00:01:41,969 I have no intention of losing the bay right now 21 00:01:42,014 --> 00:01:44,320 when it's ours for the asking. 22 00:01:44,364 --> 00:01:46,018 But how? 23 00:01:46,061 --> 00:01:47,193 Police. 24 00:01:51,066 --> 00:01:53,591 I'm a big fan of "A Bay of Blood," 25 00:01:53,634 --> 00:01:55,201 the Mario Bava film. 26 00:01:55,245 --> 00:01:57,769 It has many titles, this movie. 27 00:01:57,812 --> 00:01:59,074 It's called "A Bay of Blood." 28 00:01:59,118 --> 00:02:00,182 It's also called "Carnage." 29 00:02:00,206 --> 00:02:01,729 But there's one title 30 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:04,602 that stands head and shoulders above the rest 31 00:02:04,645 --> 00:02:07,518 and that is "Twitch of the Death Nerve." 32 00:02:07,561 --> 00:02:09,781 Now that is a title and a half. 33 00:02:09,824 --> 00:02:12,218 It's basically about a woman who gets murdered 34 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:13,982 at the beginning of the film by her husband. 35 00:02:23,142 --> 00:02:25,666 And then he gets murdered. 36 00:02:29,322 --> 00:02:31,194 And it kind of sets off a chain of events 37 00:02:31,237 --> 00:02:33,935 where we find out all these people in this family 38 00:02:33,979 --> 00:02:35,217 are kind of picking each other off 39 00:02:35,241 --> 00:02:36,416 to get this piece of land. 40 00:02:38,896 --> 00:02:41,291 And it's just bloodshed 41 00:02:41,334 --> 00:02:43,249 from the first frame to the last. 42 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:45,077 Mario Bava started as a cameraman. 43 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,252 His father was a cameraman, 44 00:02:46,296 --> 00:02:47,645 and he was a pictorialist. 45 00:02:47,688 --> 00:02:50,604 And his movies are gorgeously lit, 46 00:02:50,648 --> 00:02:52,084 whether he photographs them or not. 47 00:02:52,127 --> 00:02:54,129 And the deaths in the movies, 48 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:55,479 particularly in "A Bay of Blood," 49 00:02:55,521 --> 00:02:58,656 are presented as gorgeous tableaus 50 00:02:58,699 --> 00:03:00,223 of macabre. 51 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:02,616 It's really playful and stylish. 52 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:05,010 You have all these characters with their own motivations 53 00:03:05,053 --> 00:03:07,882 running around wild locations in great clothes 54 00:03:07,926 --> 00:03:10,624 and finding themselves murdered in extravagant ways. 55 00:03:14,541 --> 00:03:17,718 It's horror almost by the way of "Tom and Jerry." 56 00:03:17,762 --> 00:03:20,634 It's got to that sort of, like, point where, like, 57 00:03:20,678 --> 00:03:23,333 the kills are so sort of extreme 58 00:03:23,376 --> 00:03:26,074 and they're somewhat comedic, 59 00:03:26,118 --> 00:03:28,381 just in their, like, brutality. 60 00:03:28,425 --> 00:03:31,166 No! 61 00:03:31,210 --> 00:03:33,430 In "Bay of Blood," there's this scene 62 00:03:33,473 --> 00:03:37,216 where this couple is making love on a bed 63 00:03:37,259 --> 00:03:40,828 and they are impaled. 64 00:03:40,872 --> 00:03:42,613 It's during a sex scene, 65 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:46,704 and the sex scene does not feel romantic in any way 66 00:03:46,747 --> 00:03:49,097 because you have this woman on top of the guy. 67 00:03:49,141 --> 00:03:50,316 You don't see their faces. 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,362 You just see grinding flesh. 69 00:03:52,405 --> 00:03:55,234 But also the guy has his hands out in a way 70 00:03:55,278 --> 00:03:57,038 where he's holding on to the back of her head 71 00:03:57,062 --> 00:03:59,412 and it looks like he's just devouring her face. 72 00:03:59,456 --> 00:04:02,328 So it's almost like, kill them. 73 00:04:02,372 --> 00:04:05,723 They're having terrible sex, clearly. 74 00:04:07,725 --> 00:04:09,944 You see the couple as they die. 75 00:04:09,988 --> 00:04:13,426 They're, like, stuck together and they're writhing, 76 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:15,646 you know, against one another, and it's kind of like 77 00:04:15,689 --> 00:04:19,171 this still kind of sexual in a way 78 00:04:19,214 --> 00:04:21,346 that you don't really want it to be, but it is, 79 00:04:21,391 --> 00:04:24,002 so you feel uncomfortable. 80 00:04:24,045 --> 00:04:26,309 But you're also watching 81 00:04:26,352 --> 00:04:28,180 to people die, so you feel bad 82 00:04:28,223 --> 00:04:31,052 for thinking that there's anything sexy about it. 83 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:33,228 There are elements of that movie 84 00:04:33,272 --> 00:04:36,144 that show up in slasher films, and particularly 85 00:04:36,188 --> 00:04:38,059 in the "Friday the 13th" series. 86 00:04:38,103 --> 00:04:41,759 In fact, there's a shock in "Friday the 13th Part 2," 87 00:04:41,802 --> 00:04:44,414 which is directly ripped off from "Bay of Blood," 88 00:04:44,457 --> 00:04:48,548 where two people having sex are speared mid-coitus 89 00:04:48,592 --> 00:04:50,985 and the spear, like, pins them to the bed. 90 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:52,900 The difference with "Bay of Blood" though 91 00:04:52,944 --> 00:04:55,381 to the slasher films is that the twist 92 00:04:55,425 --> 00:04:59,254 is not dissimilar to some Agatha Christie books: 93 00:04:59,298 --> 00:05:00,517 they're all the killer. 94 00:05:02,257 --> 00:05:04,477 Also ripped off in the film "Hot Fuzz." 95 00:05:06,871 --> 00:05:08,612 Same twist: they're all the killer. 96 00:05:08,655 --> 00:05:13,051 So I see "Bay of Blood" as a very gory, X-rated 97 00:05:13,094 --> 00:05:14,226 Agatha Christie film. 98 00:05:25,498 --> 00:05:28,545 My God. 99 00:05:28,588 --> 00:05:31,330 It's standing right behind you. 100 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:43,908 "The Conjuring." 101 00:05:43,951 --> 00:05:48,216 "The Conjuring" is top-notch scarefest. 102 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:50,305 James Wan at his peak. 103 00:05:52,873 --> 00:05:55,398 All the scares are slow burners 104 00:05:55,441 --> 00:05:57,835 and they take their time. - What is it? 105 00:05:57,878 --> 00:06:00,751 And it always happens behind the character. 106 00:06:07,105 --> 00:06:09,368 The audience can fill in the blanks 107 00:06:09,412 --> 00:06:10,978 with their imagination. 108 00:06:11,022 --> 00:06:12,850 And it-- things don't have to be these, like, 109 00:06:12,893 --> 00:06:14,678 gazillion dollar CGI effects. 110 00:06:14,721 --> 00:06:16,361 So you could have something very simple... 111 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:20,161 That will get the audience really going. 112 00:06:21,772 --> 00:06:23,034 Boo, Mommy! 113 00:06:23,077 --> 00:06:24,427 I would say 114 00:06:24,470 --> 00:06:27,342 that the hide and clap scene 115 00:06:27,386 --> 00:06:29,910 is, like, that standout memorable moment. 116 00:06:29,954 --> 00:06:33,784 Remember, you get to ask me for three claps. 117 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:35,133 Okay. - And you get the pattern 118 00:06:35,176 --> 00:06:36,351 of what that game is like. 119 00:06:36,395 --> 00:06:37,788 It's just her, blindfolded, 120 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:38,963 walking around the house. 121 00:06:39,006 --> 00:06:40,617 First clap! 122 00:06:40,660 --> 00:06:42,314 Clap, clap. 123 00:06:42,357 --> 00:06:44,055 She's over there. 124 00:06:44,098 --> 00:06:46,361 Shit. 125 00:06:46,405 --> 00:06:48,407 Second clap. 126 00:06:49,756 --> 00:06:51,105 I'm gonna go follow that. 127 00:06:51,149 --> 00:06:53,717 April. 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,588 And it's such an innocent moment 129 00:06:55,632 --> 00:06:58,417 where she's having a bonding moment 130 00:06:58,461 --> 00:07:00,550 and playing with her child. 131 00:07:00,593 --> 00:07:02,726 And it was just very effective 132 00:07:02,769 --> 00:07:06,033 to take something so innocent and turn it so dark. 133 00:07:06,077 --> 00:07:08,775 I know where you're hiding. 134 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:10,690 Give me the third clap. 135 00:07:19,612 --> 00:07:22,006 I can hear you breathing. 136 00:07:22,049 --> 00:07:24,530 April? 137 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:26,706 April? 138 00:07:32,016 --> 00:07:34,235 Ha ha, you took your blindfold off. 139 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,150 I win! You weren't even warm, Mom. 140 00:07:36,194 --> 00:07:39,545 I was in Christine and Nancy's room. 141 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:42,330 And then the hide and clap mechanic 142 00:07:42,374 --> 00:07:46,900 returns when you start getting traditional bump in the night 143 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:48,075 kind of scares... 144 00:07:51,252 --> 00:07:53,559 Which guide her down into the basement. 145 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:55,692 Who is that? 146 00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:01,349 Whosever down there, I'm gonna lock you in now! 147 00:08:11,621 --> 00:08:12,728 Everybody in the audience, 148 00:08:12,752 --> 00:08:14,449 100% of everybody in the audience 149 00:08:14,493 --> 00:08:16,364 is convinced when she's light the match... 150 00:08:16,408 --> 00:08:18,541 That the thing, 151 00:08:18,584 --> 00:08:20,499 whatever it is, is down there. 152 00:08:20,543 --> 00:08:22,719 Hey, wanna play hide and clap? 153 00:08:28,072 --> 00:08:29,334 James Wan got you, 154 00:08:29,377 --> 00:08:30,901 and he got you so bad. 155 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:39,212 Roping in an innocent children's game 156 00:08:39,256 --> 00:08:41,433 and applying that to haunted house tropes... 157 00:08:43,609 --> 00:08:44,610 Clap. 158 00:08:48,614 --> 00:08:49,615 That's horror. 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,403 We've become such homebodies. 160 00:08:55,447 --> 00:08:56,622 Yes, yes. 161 00:08:56,666 --> 00:08:58,319 The chores have become my sanctuary. 162 00:09:05,805 --> 00:09:06,937 Get out. 163 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:08,068 Sorry, man. 164 00:09:08,112 --> 00:09:09,113 Get out! 165 00:09:09,156 --> 00:09:10,636 Yo! 166 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:11,724 Yo, chill, man! 167 00:09:11,768 --> 00:09:12,899 Get out! - Chill, chill! 168 00:09:12,943 --> 00:09:14,727 Just chill, man! 169 00:09:14,771 --> 00:09:17,469 How lucky are we to kind of be this far 170 00:09:17,512 --> 00:09:20,777 into movies and culture and to be a witness 171 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:24,476 to another culturally zeitgeist-grabbing horror movie 172 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:26,521 like "Get Out"? - A lot of my family 173 00:09:26,565 --> 00:09:28,132 and my friends said, "You know, 174 00:09:28,175 --> 00:09:30,003 "it is the perfect Black horror film 175 00:09:30,047 --> 00:09:31,657 "because it definitely deals with fears 176 00:09:31,701 --> 00:09:33,790 "that a lot of African Americans feel 177 00:09:33,833 --> 00:09:35,052 and have felt." - Yo! 178 00:09:35,095 --> 00:09:36,314 Somebody help! Yo! 179 00:09:36,357 --> 00:09:39,317 Hey! 180 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,017 "Get Out" follows Chris as he embarks 181 00:09:44,061 --> 00:09:47,630 on meeting his white girlfriend's, Rose's, parents 182 00:09:47,673 --> 00:09:48,674 for the first time. 183 00:09:48,718 --> 00:09:49,849 He asks her... 184 00:09:49,893 --> 00:09:51,458 Do they know I'm Black? 185 00:09:51,503 --> 00:09:52,939 No. 186 00:09:52,983 --> 00:09:54,549 Should they? 187 00:09:54,593 --> 00:09:58,858 And you see kind of the casual dismissiveness 188 00:09:58,902 --> 00:10:01,121 of "It's no big deal. 189 00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:02,316 "There's nothing to worry about. 190 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:03,689 They're not racist." 191 00:10:03,733 --> 00:10:06,866 And then the film unfolds... 192 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:08,955 As it does. 193 00:10:08,999 --> 00:10:10,000 Chris just can't sleep. 194 00:10:10,043 --> 00:10:11,392 He's wandering in the hallway. 195 00:10:11,436 --> 00:10:13,220 There's Missy waiting with her teacup. 196 00:10:13,264 --> 00:10:14,700 Come in and sit with me. 197 00:10:14,744 --> 00:10:16,136 Please. 198 00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:18,138 And then there is this literal descent, 199 00:10:18,182 --> 00:10:20,184 for him anyway, into hell 200 00:10:20,227 --> 00:10:23,056 that begins from this very quiet, 201 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,145 genteel encounter. 202 00:10:25,189 --> 00:10:26,756 So you think you're just going through 203 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,019 the hypnosis scene in one way 204 00:10:29,062 --> 00:10:30,455 with the Catherine Keener character 205 00:10:30,498 --> 00:10:33,023 that is very, very trusting and very relatable 206 00:10:33,066 --> 00:10:35,373 and like the mother that a lot of us go to visit 207 00:10:35,416 --> 00:10:37,157 at our friend's or our partner's house. 208 00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:39,420 We do use focal points sometimes 209 00:10:39,464 --> 00:10:44,121 to guide someone to a state of heightened suggestibility. 210 00:10:44,164 --> 00:10:46,079 Heightened suggestibility. 211 00:10:46,123 --> 00:10:47,602 That's right. - And then it becomes 212 00:10:47,646 --> 00:10:49,256 completely dark and sadistic 213 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,605 and manipulative and treacherous. 214 00:10:50,649 --> 00:10:51,824 What about your mother? 215 00:10:53,652 --> 00:10:54,827 What about her? 216 00:10:54,871 --> 00:10:56,089 Wait, are we-- - Where were you 217 00:10:56,133 --> 00:10:57,308 when she died? 218 00:10:57,351 --> 00:11:00,746 Her kind of witchy hypnosis 219 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:05,142 to prime Chris to go back into his childhood... 220 00:11:07,884 --> 00:11:10,277 How do you feel now? 221 00:11:10,321 --> 00:11:11,409 I can't move. 222 00:11:11,452 --> 00:11:12,627 You can't move. 223 00:11:12,671 --> 00:11:15,543 Now sink into the floor. 224 00:11:15,587 --> 00:11:17,632 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - Sink. 225 00:11:23,247 --> 00:11:24,552 This iconic image, 226 00:11:24,596 --> 00:11:26,598 Chris floating in that nothingness, 227 00:11:26,641 --> 00:11:28,992 but also being, like, seen from the outside 228 00:11:29,035 --> 00:11:31,777 by Catherine Keener's character, the hypnotist, 229 00:11:31,821 --> 00:11:33,736 it's an amazing image, right? 230 00:11:33,779 --> 00:11:36,782 And it's so filled with, like, different types of resonances. 231 00:11:36,826 --> 00:11:38,828 Now you're in the sunken place. 232 00:11:38,871 --> 00:11:42,570 You are trapped, voiceless, without agency 233 00:11:42,614 --> 00:11:46,487 in this sunken place just hits such a chord 234 00:11:46,531 --> 00:11:48,576 with so many viewers, not just Black viewers, 235 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:50,578 because the movie did great for everyone. 236 00:11:50,622 --> 00:11:52,450 But especially for Black viewers, 237 00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:55,801 it really feels like something that is true 238 00:11:55,845 --> 00:11:58,412 as much as it is terrifying. 239 00:12:00,153 --> 00:12:01,502 It's a really great metaphor 240 00:12:01,546 --> 00:12:03,243 for the stereotyping of Black people. 241 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:04,786 You ever get in street fights as a kid? 242 00:12:04,810 --> 00:12:06,159 Because a stereotype 243 00:12:06,203 --> 00:12:08,031 is actually, like, about fixity. 244 00:12:08,074 --> 00:12:09,728 It's about a cage that you're put in 245 00:12:09,772 --> 00:12:11,817 and you're always trying to slip out of that cage. 246 00:12:11,861 --> 00:12:15,386 That fixity is something that you deal with every day. 247 00:12:15,429 --> 00:12:17,257 That freaked me out. 248 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:18,998 That's the part that scared me. 249 00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:20,608 More than all the other things, 250 00:12:20,652 --> 00:12:22,785 that was the horror part of it. 251 00:12:22,828 --> 00:12:26,223 It wasn't about people being decapitated 252 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:28,094 or things like that. 253 00:12:28,138 --> 00:12:30,227 That was way deeper and way subtle 254 00:12:30,270 --> 00:12:32,969 and I didn't get the movie until that happened. 255 00:12:33,012 --> 00:12:35,841 And then it's like, "That's what this is about?" 256 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:37,669 You know? 257 00:12:57,863 --> 00:13:01,127 Nothing in this life makes me happier 258 00:13:01,171 --> 00:13:04,522 than the fact that Showtime gave David Lynch 259 00:13:04,565 --> 00:13:05,978 clearly more money than he'd ever had 260 00:13:06,002 --> 00:13:07,917 in his life to make a movie 261 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,180 to make an 18-hour miniseries. 262 00:13:15,098 --> 00:13:17,709 David Lynch is so great at telling a visual story. 263 00:13:19,885 --> 00:13:23,497 He explains so much while explaining nothing. 264 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:26,761 He answers so many questions while begging so many more. 265 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:31,636 I've never seen a better example of that 266 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,290 than in episode eight of "Twin Peaks." 267 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:38,686 Episode eight is the atomic episode. 268 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:40,471 It is unlike anything else 269 00:13:40,514 --> 00:13:42,995 in that version of "Twin Peaks" 270 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,780 and it's unlike anything else anywhere. 271 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:51,612 The episode really begins with beautiful footage 272 00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:55,660 of the first atomic bomb explosion in Alamogordo 273 00:13:55,703 --> 00:13:58,358 and then tricked it out with VFX. 274 00:14:00,273 --> 00:14:02,362 It's playing to a piece of classical music 275 00:14:02,406 --> 00:14:03,929 by Krzysztof Penderecki 276 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:07,454 called "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima," 277 00:14:07,498 --> 00:14:10,240 and it's gorgeous and discordant 278 00:14:10,283 --> 00:14:14,157 and it perfectly matches this slow atomic blast 279 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,246 that goes on and on and on and on. 280 00:14:18,552 --> 00:14:21,294 One of the things film does best is play with time 281 00:14:21,338 --> 00:14:23,296 and play with your perception of time. 282 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:25,472 And "Twin Peaks: The Return" really plays 283 00:14:25,516 --> 00:14:27,126 with your perception of time, 284 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:29,302 sometimes in a way deliberately intended 285 00:14:29,346 --> 00:14:31,043 to aggravate you it seems, 286 00:14:31,087 --> 00:14:34,220 and other times it is to hypnotize you 287 00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:37,876 and to draw you into this world. 288 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,462 And essentially what's happening in the world 289 00:14:39,486 --> 00:14:41,793 of "Twin Peaks" is that it is ripping open the fabric 290 00:14:41,836 --> 00:14:45,666 of space and time and allowing evil demons 291 00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:48,234 to come into our world. 292 00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:50,149 These kind of burnt-up guys, 293 00:14:50,193 --> 00:14:52,151 presumably from the atomic fire. 294 00:14:55,546 --> 00:14:57,809 So the Woodsman's the main guy 295 00:14:57,852 --> 00:15:00,116 and he says infamously, you know, 296 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:01,204 "Got a light?" 297 00:15:01,247 --> 00:15:02,770 Got a light? 298 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:07,036 Got a light? 299 00:15:08,907 --> 00:15:11,562 And then he makes his way to a radio station. 300 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:17,002 And it's been playing just like a '50s monster movie... 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,576 Until he comes up to the DJ and squishes the guy's head 302 00:15:25,619 --> 00:15:28,318 in a way you would never see in a '50s monster movie. 303 00:15:33,801 --> 00:15:36,239 You think, "This'll be, like, a fun thrill. 304 00:15:36,282 --> 00:15:39,503 My God, he actually crushed that man's skull." 305 00:15:45,074 --> 00:15:47,554 It's so fucking sober. 306 00:15:50,731 --> 00:15:52,472 He leans into the microphone and says... 307 00:16:05,094 --> 00:16:10,055 As he says this-- this chant over and over, 308 00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:12,057 it puts everyone to sleep in the town. 309 00:16:12,101 --> 00:16:14,059 And they all go into some ambulant trance. 310 00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:19,717 I find that I remember David Lynch's stuff 311 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,024 like a nightmare. 312 00:16:22,067 --> 00:16:24,722 That's kind of how it is with that moth-fish thing. 313 00:16:24,765 --> 00:16:26,941 But I do remember being totally disgusted 314 00:16:26,985 --> 00:16:28,136 'cause anything like that crawling 315 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,033 into someone's mouth... 316 00:16:31,076 --> 00:16:32,643 I mean, talk about danger. 317 00:16:32,686 --> 00:16:34,949 Talk about mystery. 318 00:16:34,993 --> 00:16:37,735 It's nice to not feel safe sometimes 319 00:16:37,778 --> 00:16:39,563 watching something. 320 00:16:39,606 --> 00:16:43,480 And you do not feel safe watching that episode at all. 321 00:16:53,272 --> 00:16:54,467 Some of the best horror movies, 322 00:16:54,491 --> 00:16:55,684 you didn't know they were horror 323 00:16:55,708 --> 00:16:56,971 when you started watching them. 324 00:16:57,015 --> 00:17:00,410 "Pan's Labyrinth" is one of those movies. 325 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:01,517 It started and I was like, "Great. 326 00:17:01,541 --> 00:17:03,239 It's about the civil war and Franco. 327 00:17:03,282 --> 00:17:04,978 It's a great Guillermo del Toro movie 328 00:17:05,023 --> 00:17:06,764 set in the real world." 329 00:17:06,806 --> 00:17:09,245 My grandfather grew up in those places 330 00:17:09,287 --> 00:17:11,073 and those times, so watching that movie 331 00:17:11,116 --> 00:17:12,944 was just to hear the fantasy version 332 00:17:12,987 --> 00:17:15,033 of all the tales my grandfather would tell. 333 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:23,650 "Pan's Labyrinth" is about a young girl in 1944 Spain, 334 00:17:23,694 --> 00:17:26,914 where the fascists have already won the civil war 335 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:28,481 and they're in control. 336 00:17:28,525 --> 00:17:31,093 She moves from the city with her mother, 337 00:17:31,136 --> 00:17:33,443 who was extremely pregnant and sick, 338 00:17:33,486 --> 00:17:36,098 to her stepfather's compound, 339 00:17:36,141 --> 00:17:39,492 who is a very evil fascist. 340 00:17:42,365 --> 00:17:46,978 Ofelia, she discovers a magical world 341 00:17:47,021 --> 00:17:50,155 and you start to see both worlds intertwine-- 342 00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,809 the real world 343 00:17:51,852 --> 00:17:54,159 with the atrocities of the fascists... 344 00:17:57,249 --> 00:17:59,904 And then the magical supernatural world. 345 00:18:01,819 --> 00:18:05,518 That moment when she goes through that hole in the floor 346 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:08,173 and just comes out in this such a bizarre world. 347 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:09,672 And it's a great scene for many reasons. 348 00:18:09,696 --> 00:18:11,394 I mean, first because it shows the genius 349 00:18:11,437 --> 00:18:14,614 of del Toro's creations. 350 00:18:14,658 --> 00:18:18,183 It's like, "What is that thing and what is it doing? 351 00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:20,838 Is it sleeping?" 352 00:18:20,881 --> 00:18:23,536 And then that thing comes to life. 353 00:18:27,975 --> 00:18:29,344 The moment that really terrified me 354 00:18:29,368 --> 00:18:32,632 was the Pale Man walking down the hallway. 355 00:18:32,676 --> 00:18:37,202 The redesign of the makeup artist reinvented 356 00:18:37,246 --> 00:18:41,250 and they created this thing that I hadn't seen before. 357 00:18:41,293 --> 00:18:43,774 It's a great combination of design and performance, 358 00:18:43,817 --> 00:18:46,646 I think, and general vision 359 00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:49,040 because that moment is really terrifying. 360 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,740 If you notice, it's the people 361 00:18:53,784 --> 00:18:55,220 that are the most violent. 362 00:18:55,264 --> 00:18:57,875 It is the people that are the most evil. 363 00:18:59,398 --> 00:19:01,139 What we see with the supernatural world, 364 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:03,228 yes, the Pale Man was eating the fairies... 365 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:08,625 And eats children, but he was a metaphor 366 00:19:08,668 --> 00:19:10,540 for what was happening with the humans. 367 00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:15,762 When a child cannot trust the adults in charge of her 368 00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:17,262 and when they are prone to violence... 369 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,070 Not only is it 370 00:19:19,113 --> 00:19:21,638 a universal fear, but it brings about 371 00:19:21,681 --> 00:19:26,469 an innate biological revulsion in people 372 00:19:26,512 --> 00:19:29,123 that you would see a fantastical world as a-- 373 00:19:29,167 --> 00:19:30,429 yeah, go there. 374 00:19:32,692 --> 00:19:34,912 Get away from that monster. Go to that monster. 375 00:19:39,699 --> 00:19:41,658 Let's have a baby. 376 00:19:41,701 --> 00:19:42,920 Let's have three babies, 377 00:19:42,963 --> 00:19:44,400 one at a time, all right? 378 00:19:48,882 --> 00:19:50,449 As a model of storytelling, 379 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:53,278 I mean, you really can't beat "Rosemary's Baby." 380 00:19:53,322 --> 00:19:55,846 It's as close to a perfect movie 381 00:19:55,889 --> 00:19:58,979 as anyone has made, I think. 382 00:19:59,023 --> 00:20:01,025 From the casting to the way it looks 383 00:20:01,068 --> 00:20:02,983 to the level of humor. 384 00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:05,421 He has his father's eyes. 385 00:20:05,464 --> 00:20:07,118 There's not a note wrong with it. 386 00:20:07,161 --> 00:20:09,729 I mean, everything works perfectly. 387 00:20:11,514 --> 00:20:12,689 And it's scary as hell. 388 00:20:15,169 --> 00:20:16,649 It's lovely. 389 00:20:16,693 --> 00:20:18,390 You'll get used to the smell 390 00:20:18,434 --> 00:20:19,478 before you know it. 391 00:20:21,698 --> 00:20:24,353 We sort of suspect it, you know, more than she does 392 00:20:24,396 --> 00:20:26,659 that there's nefarious things happening, you know, 393 00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:29,053 all around her between her husband and the neighbors. 394 00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:36,408 You know what's happening to her and she doesn't. 395 00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:39,324 Madame and monsieur shall have ze dessert after all. 396 00:20:39,368 --> 00:20:40,804 What? - Mousse au chocolat 397 00:20:40,847 --> 00:20:43,197 or as Minnie calls it, "chocolate mouse." 398 00:20:44,721 --> 00:20:46,984 She really is like an innocent lamb 399 00:20:47,027 --> 00:20:48,333 to the slaughter. 400 00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,466 Has an undertaste. 401 00:20:50,509 --> 00:20:52,206 Come on, the old bat slaved all day. 402 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:53,556 Now eat it. 403 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,645 I don't like it. - It's delicious. 404 00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:57,951 One of the beautiful things that that film does 405 00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,651 is to put the audience into Rosemary's skin. 406 00:21:05,263 --> 00:21:07,744 And then of course that, like, magnificent 407 00:21:07,787 --> 00:21:10,529 sort of dream rape scene. 408 00:21:10,573 --> 00:21:13,227 That sequence is a short little film in itself 409 00:21:13,271 --> 00:21:15,012 and just extraordinary. 410 00:21:16,796 --> 00:21:19,582 The dream sequence is one of the best dream sequences 411 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:23,281 in the history of movies because it really plays 412 00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:24,717 like a dream. 413 00:21:28,547 --> 00:21:30,984 It doesn't have Salvador Dalí faces 414 00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,548 and it doesn't have mist on the ground. 415 00:21:36,381 --> 00:21:40,254 It's lived and seen like it's happening, 416 00:21:40,298 --> 00:21:42,256 but it's got a sort of a veneer over it. 417 00:21:44,911 --> 00:21:47,436 Characters in the story appear in places 418 00:21:47,479 --> 00:21:49,655 that they wouldn't ordinarily. 419 00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:51,440 And there was, I think, JFK is in it 420 00:21:51,483 --> 00:21:53,964 and there's all sorts of iconic people in it. 421 00:21:56,096 --> 00:21:58,142 She's awake. She sees. - She don't see. 422 00:21:58,185 --> 00:21:59,815 As long as she ate the mouse, she can't see nor hear. 423 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:01,711 She's like dead now. Sing. 424 00:22:06,193 --> 00:22:09,066 It's a very particular kind of dream 425 00:22:09,109 --> 00:22:12,417 that of course, like, goes very badly in the end. 426 00:22:19,598 --> 00:22:22,122 Because you see it from her perspective 427 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:25,212 and she's not alarmed and that moment 428 00:22:25,256 --> 00:22:27,693 where she says, you know, like, "Do you forgive me, father?" 429 00:22:28,912 --> 00:22:30,827 Am I forgiven, father? 430 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:33,830 Absolutely. 431 00:22:37,268 --> 00:22:39,270 God. It's just... 432 00:22:39,313 --> 00:22:41,141 I just, like, shivered a bit 433 00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:42,185 thinking about it. 434 00:22:45,885 --> 00:22:47,017 This is no dream. 435 00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:49,236 This is really happening! 436 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,716 One of the things I find 437 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,457 that people get really put out by 438 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:54,459 is when she wakes up the next day, 439 00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:56,896 Guy, played by John Cassavetes, says... 440 00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:58,637 I didn't wanna miss baby night. 441 00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:00,310 You-- while I was out? - And a couple of my nails 442 00:23:00,334 --> 00:23:01,814 were ragged and-- 443 00:23:01,858 --> 00:23:05,470 and it was kind of fun in a necrophile sort of way. 444 00:23:11,563 --> 00:23:14,740 There's no jump scares in that movie. 445 00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,002 It's all atmosphere. 446 00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:18,352 It's all suggestion. 447 00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:21,486 You don't even really see anything, really. 448 00:23:25,098 --> 00:23:27,666 But it's the idea that's so horrific. 449 00:23:30,756 --> 00:23:33,498 Is it all right? 450 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:35,239 Yes. 451 00:23:35,282 --> 00:23:36,762 It's fine. 452 00:23:41,593 --> 00:23:43,987 "Inside" is part of the French New Extremity movement, 453 00:23:44,030 --> 00:23:45,989 this wave of French horror films 454 00:23:46,032 --> 00:23:48,295 that essentially pull no punches. 455 00:23:56,260 --> 00:23:59,219 It is a movie about a woman who is pregnant. 456 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:00,960 She is also now a widow. 457 00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:02,571 It's Christmas Eve. 458 00:24:02,614 --> 00:24:04,734 She is going to be induced the next day to give birth. 459 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:13,364 She is in the throes of grief 460 00:24:13,407 --> 00:24:15,037 while also questioning whether she actually wants 461 00:24:15,061 --> 00:24:17,281 to be a mother. 462 00:24:17,324 --> 00:24:18,935 She's alone at home, 463 00:24:18,978 --> 00:24:20,658 and there's a late-night knock on the door. 464 00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:25,637 It is another woman 465 00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:27,030 and she wants her baby. 466 00:24:29,336 --> 00:24:32,165 And what ensues is this absolutely incredible 467 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:33,993 home invasion movie like no other. 468 00:24:38,476 --> 00:24:39,912 It's a very tense film 469 00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:41,760 and it kind of exploits that fear of motherhood 470 00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,239 that "Rosemary's Baby" did, but it amps it up, you know, 471 00:24:43,263 --> 00:24:44,613 1,000 times more. 472 00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:49,056 It's so well-acted by the two leads 473 00:24:49,095 --> 00:24:52,185 that it makes it even harder to watch. 474 00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:53,796 Béatrice Dalle, she's something else. 475 00:24:56,929 --> 00:24:58,583 Definitely the toughest scene, 476 00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:02,848 one of the most devastating things on film 477 00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:04,546 I've ever seen... 478 00:25:04,589 --> 00:25:06,983 Is when she's hiding in the bathroom... 479 00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:20,474 Her mom comes to check on her. 480 00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:21,650 The mom comes up the stairs. 481 00:25:21,693 --> 00:25:23,347 She doesn't know it's her mom. 482 00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:26,437 She's all crazed and terrified from this woman. 483 00:25:28,178 --> 00:25:30,528 And then she comes bursting out... 484 00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:33,270 And stabs her mother. 485 00:25:34,793 --> 00:25:36,708 My God. 486 00:25:36,752 --> 00:25:40,407 Imagine stabbing your own mother. 487 00:25:41,887 --> 00:25:44,020 Who can imagine such a thing? 488 00:25:44,063 --> 00:25:47,632 Who could even conceive of what they would do 489 00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:49,547 if they did something like that? 490 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:53,116 Who knows what that looks like? 491 00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:57,337 This actress shows us what that looks like. 492 00:25:57,381 --> 00:26:00,471 Maman. 493 00:26:00,514 --> 00:26:02,560 That moment kind of owes something to "Tenebrae" 494 00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:04,170 and the great blood spray on the wall. 495 00:26:06,259 --> 00:26:08,392 But it did really making its own and I love 496 00:26:08,435 --> 00:26:11,351 that it's not simply a "Look what we did" 497 00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,136 and "Look what we're nodding to." 498 00:26:13,179 --> 00:26:15,399 It's not purely homage and it's not purely just 499 00:26:15,442 --> 00:26:16,835 recreating it. 500 00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:18,271 It's really doing its own thing 501 00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,838 of "The threat is now in your home" 502 00:26:21,448 --> 00:26:23,276 And you're gonna have to sit, 503 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,975 as the audience, in agony, 504 00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:28,020 waiting for her to strike 505 00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:29,848 'cause it's not gonna happen right now. 506 00:26:29,892 --> 00:26:32,132 And I think that goes a long way in making a movie scary. 507 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,079 And "Se7en" is as much a horror movie 508 00:26:43,122 --> 00:26:45,385 as it is a detective thriller. 509 00:26:47,779 --> 00:26:50,390 "Se7en's" about a series of killings 510 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:53,176 that take place in an unnamed city, 511 00:26:53,219 --> 00:26:55,395 where each of the killings, one by one, 512 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:58,572 is based on one of the seven deadly sins. 513 00:26:58,616 --> 00:26:59,661 Gluttony, 514 00:26:59,704 --> 00:27:01,227 greed, 515 00:27:01,271 --> 00:27:03,099 sloth, wrath, 516 00:27:03,142 --> 00:27:04,143 pride, 517 00:27:04,187 --> 00:27:05,231 lust, 518 00:27:05,275 --> 00:27:07,103 and envy. 519 00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:12,606 Walking down the streets of New York City at the time, 520 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:14,501 you know, late '80s, 521 00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:17,330 if you didn't put blinders on to man's plight around you, 522 00:27:17,374 --> 00:27:19,289 you would literally see a deadly sin 523 00:27:19,332 --> 00:27:20,551 on every street corner. 524 00:27:24,642 --> 00:27:26,078 It's always raining. 525 00:27:26,122 --> 00:27:29,952 You're always in alleyways or seedy environments. 526 00:27:29,995 --> 00:27:32,041 It's always dark there. 527 00:27:33,259 --> 00:27:37,742 Searching the crime scenes with flashlights. 528 00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:41,093 So that whole movie is about discovery. 529 00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:43,313 This guy goes by the name of Victor. 530 00:27:43,356 --> 00:27:45,924 His prints were found at the scene by Homicide. 531 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:50,426 If there's any big scare in "Se7en," 532 00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:51,887 it's probably sloth. 533 00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:55,542 The SWAT team is ready 534 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:59,111 to break into this assailant's space, right? 535 00:27:59,155 --> 00:28:01,287 You know, all their hypermasculine guns 536 00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:02,593 are everywhere. 537 00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:07,946 You're taking a lot of tough SWAT guys, 538 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:10,993 going in with practically army gear and shotguns 539 00:28:11,036 --> 00:28:13,299 and flashlights and feeling fully prepared 540 00:28:13,343 --> 00:28:15,258 for whatever they were gonna find. 541 00:28:15,301 --> 00:28:17,477 Police! 542 00:28:17,521 --> 00:28:19,368 And the trick was to have them completely unprepared 543 00:28:19,392 --> 00:28:22,091 for what they do find. 544 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,962 Fincher does such a great job 545 00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:27,531 of just making you feel like you can smell the room 546 00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:28,638 with all the little air fresheners 547 00:28:28,662 --> 00:28:29,662 hanging everywhere. 548 00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:38,324 Fuck me. 549 00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:42,285 And you think you're walking 550 00:28:42,328 --> 00:28:44,896 into this grizzly, brutal crime scene 551 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:47,725 of this completely emaciated human being, 552 00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:49,814 just left for dead. 553 00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:52,512 He's desiccated. 554 00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:54,471 He looks like he's been dead for a while. 555 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,085 The makeup is so beautiful and so horrific 556 00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:04,481 and provocative all at the same time. 557 00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,529 I couldn't get it out of my head. 558 00:29:09,573 --> 00:29:12,097 But of course, the lead tactical guy leads and say-- 559 00:29:12,141 --> 00:29:15,231 You got what you deserved. 560 00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:19,322 Then he wakes up. 561 00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:22,629 That's a big gotcha moment. 562 00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:25,763 Friends of mine used to call that a sphincter factor of ten. 563 00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:27,591 Choo. 564 00:29:29,898 --> 00:29:31,595 There's nothing that could prepare them 565 00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:35,468 for the absolute horror of Sloth waking up. 566 00:29:35,512 --> 00:29:36,948 This must be the first one-- 567 00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:39,168 dated exactly one year ago today. 568 00:29:39,211 --> 00:29:42,867 As an audience member, knowing that that person 569 00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:45,609 is still alive, I can't imagine the final moments 570 00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:47,002 of this person's life. 571 00:29:47,045 --> 00:29:49,482 He's experienced about as much pain and suffering 572 00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:51,789 as anyone I've encountered, give or take. 573 00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:54,748 It's just torturous on a whole other level. 574 00:29:54,792 --> 00:29:56,838 And he still has hell to look forward to. 575 00:29:58,404 --> 00:30:00,972 One of the keys to "Se7en" was trying to-- 576 00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:04,019 as the cops walk into the scene of each killing, 577 00:30:04,062 --> 00:30:07,326 to get in the head of the victim enough 578 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:10,242 that you as an audience member would be saying, 579 00:30:10,286 --> 00:30:12,766 "My God, what if I were in that situation?" 580 00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,422 You know, this isn't gonna have a happy ending. 581 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:26,084 "Zodiac" is a very unique film, 582 00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:31,263 and coming off of the noir-ish, beautiful, heightened nightmare 583 00:30:31,307 --> 00:30:33,918 that Fincher tapped into with "Se7en," 584 00:30:33,962 --> 00:30:36,573 he hit something else with "Zodiac" that I think 585 00:30:36,616 --> 00:30:40,925 is pretty profound, and that's a sense of utter realism. 586 00:30:40,969 --> 00:30:42,424 Because it was based 587 00:30:42,448 --> 00:30:46,148 on a real case, Fincher very deliberately made a lot 588 00:30:46,191 --> 00:30:49,847 of creative decisions that were the exact opposite of "Se7en." 589 00:30:49,891 --> 00:30:52,197 I think part of the reason for that was to be respectful 590 00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:53,851 to the people who actually died. 591 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:57,463 There is no gimmicks and weird camera movements 592 00:30:57,507 --> 00:30:59,552 because the intention is different. 593 00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:02,294 It's, like, immersing you in the reality of that. 594 00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:04,470 It's a movie about the bureaucracy 595 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:06,559 of investigating a murder. 596 00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,605 I hear you have some files for us. 597 00:31:08,648 --> 00:31:10,215 I'll show you mine, you show me yours. 598 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:14,045 I find "Zodiac" to be a riveting procedural. 599 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:16,700 But what Fincher does, and why I think "Zodiac" 600 00:31:16,743 --> 00:31:19,833 is a horror film is that amid all of this 601 00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:22,314 incredible procedural work, 602 00:31:22,358 --> 00:31:24,969 he treats us to one of the most upsetting 603 00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:27,624 and suspenseful sequences ever 604 00:31:27,667 --> 00:31:29,756 in a story about a serial killer-- 605 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,412 the murder of the couple by the lake, which plays out 606 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:35,893 as close as I can imagine an event like that 607 00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:37,634 actually playing out. 608 00:31:37,677 --> 00:31:39,462 Somebody else is here. 609 00:31:39,505 --> 00:31:41,681 It is a public park. 610 00:31:41,725 --> 00:31:45,076 Just punches you in the gut, because it is just a couple 611 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,731 having a nice moment in the park, 612 00:31:47,774 --> 00:31:51,387 and then this creep shows up in this, like, black hood. 613 00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:54,607 It's not the incredible low-angled silhouette 614 00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:56,044 with the dripping rain you get 615 00:31:56,087 --> 00:31:57,456 in "Se7en" when you meet the killer. 616 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,134 This is just a normal person 617 00:31:59,177 --> 00:32:00,570 on the periphery of the scene, 618 00:32:00,613 --> 00:32:02,354 stepping out and looking pretty silly. 619 00:32:02,398 --> 00:32:03,965 My God, he has a gun. 620 00:32:05,183 --> 00:32:06,793 Don't move. 621 00:32:06,837 --> 00:32:09,318 He does keep the killer at quite a distance. 622 00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,321 Fincher is a genius at what he shows you, 623 00:32:12,364 --> 00:32:13,733 because he doesn't want you to see anything 624 00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:15,498 that the victims don't. 625 00:32:15,541 --> 00:32:17,935 You know they're not gonna survive this moment. 626 00:32:17,979 --> 00:32:20,372 That information, whatever they glean, goes with them, 627 00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:21,634 and that's haunting. 628 00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:23,288 Are you all done? 629 00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:26,552 The shot selection is very subjective. 630 00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:29,686 It's very much about what you should and shouldn't see 631 00:32:29,729 --> 00:32:31,775 in a given moment, and there's no music. 632 00:32:31,818 --> 00:32:35,692 There's none of the seasoning that a serial killer movie 633 00:32:35,735 --> 00:32:37,172 would employ. 634 00:32:37,215 --> 00:32:42,177 It's just so unflinchingly matter-of-fact 635 00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:44,527 that it becomes a level of horror 636 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:45,919 that I think is far worse. 637 00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:55,494 I can't remember many moments in film where you actually see 638 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:58,062 the brutality of a murder so vividly. 639 00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,152 The stabbing of the couple in the park, 640 00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:02,849 that's when I turned it off. 641 00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:04,764 It was too real. 642 00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:09,552 But my intention is to go back and see how he shot that. 643 00:33:09,595 --> 00:33:11,945 Why did it affect me like that? 644 00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:14,905 A murder like that can be told 645 00:33:14,948 --> 00:33:16,689 in a thousand different ways. 646 00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:18,517 It can be elegant. 647 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:23,000 You can hide, and he decided in that moment to just show it. 648 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,370 That's one of the moments in film where you don't wanna see, 649 00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:27,135 because you know it's real. 650 00:33:27,178 --> 00:33:31,095 You know the victims are real, and he takes you to the edge. 651 00:33:38,537 --> 00:33:39,930 The chimps are infected. 652 00:33:46,284 --> 00:33:49,418 We like to focus a lot today on "elevated horror," 653 00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:51,202 things that look beautifully cinematic. 654 00:33:52,638 --> 00:33:55,685 But there's also an ugliness 655 00:33:55,728 --> 00:33:58,340 that can be as beautiful as well. 656 00:33:58,383 --> 00:34:00,255 "28 Days Later," there is no other film 657 00:34:00,298 --> 00:34:04,041 I can compare it to visually at all. 658 00:34:07,914 --> 00:34:09,220 Always, when there's 659 00:34:09,264 --> 00:34:11,744 a zombie on-screen, it's fast. 660 00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:14,399 It's high-shutter. It's quick cuts, 661 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,184 and the sound design is so amped up. 662 00:34:18,186 --> 00:34:20,405 The infection and the sounds and all that, 663 00:34:20,449 --> 00:34:22,538 they all feel like such a threat. 664 00:34:24,626 --> 00:34:26,411 One of the things 665 00:34:26,454 --> 00:34:29,675 that "28 Days Later" did-- it's a virus-- 666 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,981 There's something in the blood. 667 00:34:32,025 --> 00:34:34,070 By the time they tried to evacuate the cities, 668 00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:35,550 it was already too late. 669 00:34:35,594 --> 00:34:37,640 And you can just get it while you're alive. 670 00:34:37,682 --> 00:34:40,599 Like, you could just get a drop of blood in your eye. 671 00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:43,036 And you'll become a zombie. 672 00:34:49,217 --> 00:34:51,349 That's the beauty of "28 Days Later," 673 00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:53,221 is it just deals with the humanity of things, 674 00:34:53,264 --> 00:34:54,657 and it's so grounded. 675 00:34:56,311 --> 00:34:59,314 So I'm Frank, anyway. - Jim. 676 00:34:59,357 --> 00:35:01,403 You meet Brendan Gleeson's character. 677 00:35:01,446 --> 00:35:03,840 You meet his daughter. - This is my daughter, Hannah. 678 00:35:03,883 --> 00:35:07,931 All four of these travelers trek to find an outpost. 679 00:35:07,974 --> 00:35:09,411 Look over there. 680 00:35:13,806 --> 00:35:15,330 Like a family. 681 00:35:15,373 --> 00:35:17,462 This might be a place where they could be safe 682 00:35:17,506 --> 00:35:21,205 and where they might be able to live some semblance of a life. 683 00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:23,207 They get to the outpost and they realize 684 00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:25,992 that it's been abandoned. 685 00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:28,317 We should check the vehicles. There has to be something. 686 00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:31,911 Frank. - We have to go. 687 00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:33,870 Yeah. - Go fucking where? 688 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,019 So obviously, there's this level 689 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:39,789 of frustration in the scene 690 00:35:39,832 --> 00:35:41,921 where Brendan Gleeson's just having a moment. 691 00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:45,142 He sees this crow pecking away at a body. 692 00:35:51,104 --> 00:35:53,106 Get out of here. 693 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,021 And when that blood falls-- 694 00:35:55,065 --> 00:35:58,286 It's just, "No." 695 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:03,987 And the way it just cuts so fast from the point of view 696 00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:07,817 of the drop to his eye red to him covering his face 697 00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:09,340 and telling his daughter, "Back off." 698 00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,995 Dad? Are you all right? 699 00:36:12,038 --> 00:36:15,433 Yeah, I'm fine, sweetheart. 700 00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:17,174 Sorry I lost my temper. 701 00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:21,047 It's this moment of, like, extraordinary-- 702 00:36:21,091 --> 00:36:22,788 heartbreak. 703 00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:24,790 Keep away from me. 704 00:36:24,834 --> 00:36:26,618 Stay where you are. 705 00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:28,272 Dad? - Keep away! 706 00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:29,273 'Cause we know what's coming, 707 00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:30,970 and he knows what's coming, 708 00:36:31,014 --> 00:36:33,364 and everybody in the scenario knows what's coming. 709 00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:35,192 It's almost like the perspective shifts. 710 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:38,239 At first, you're in it with him as the observer, 711 00:36:38,282 --> 00:36:41,764 and then you almost take the seat of his daughter, 712 00:36:41,807 --> 00:36:45,942 and you're watching him just transform into a monster. 713 00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:48,640 Jim! Jim, he's infected! 714 00:36:48,684 --> 00:36:50,207 No! No! 715 00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:51,904 What makes it so gut-wrenching 716 00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:53,950 and so scary and so iconic 717 00:36:53,993 --> 00:36:57,127 is also the tragedy of that moment as well, 718 00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,391 because tragedy is the sister of fear. 719 00:37:03,568 --> 00:37:06,092 A lot of things are made all the more disturbing 720 00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:08,791 and horrific, because it is so sad. 721 00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:10,314 Jim! - No! 722 00:37:10,358 --> 00:37:12,011 Jim, get him! - Dad! 723 00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:13,622 Jim! 724 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:16,712 It's as though that last bit of humanity 725 00:37:16,755 --> 00:37:18,322 has gone from the world. 726 00:37:30,769 --> 00:37:32,597 Jesus! 727 00:37:32,641 --> 00:37:33,685 Christ! 728 00:37:42,259 --> 00:37:43,913 "30 Days of Night," 729 00:37:43,956 --> 00:37:47,308 that is a seriously underrated vampire horror movie. 730 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:52,356 Danny Huston is absolutely brilliant 731 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,532 and equally terrifying in that role. 732 00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:56,491 Die! 733 00:37:56,534 --> 00:37:59,624 Yeah, you're just not used to seeing vampires like that. 734 00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:03,367 Nothing sexual and sensual about it. 735 00:38:03,411 --> 00:38:04,692 You know, it's like, there's no like, 736 00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:07,066 "I'm about to seduce you and take time 737 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:09,330 to turn you into a vamp-- no. 738 00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:10,766 They won't turn you into a vampire. 739 00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:12,028 They just wanna eat you. 740 00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:16,835 They're not related to anything around Christianity. 741 00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:18,010 Who are you people? 742 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:19,340 They're a species. 743 00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:25,520 Vampires have definitely become much more romantic 744 00:38:25,563 --> 00:38:27,173 over the years, and in this movie, 745 00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:29,306 they are not your sparkly "Twilight" vampires. 746 00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:30,916 Are you afraid? 747 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,353 No. 748 00:38:32,396 --> 00:38:34,398 These are not the kind of vampires 749 00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:35,882 you wanna bring home to your parents. 750 00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:39,664 These are the vampires that will completely behead 751 00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,579 and massacre your parents and your whole family 752 00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:42,928 and then probably make you watch 753 00:38:42,972 --> 00:38:44,930 before they take you out as well. 754 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,758 One of the quintessential 755 00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:49,848 moments of that film is the vampire killing spree. 756 00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:58,422 It's almost like watching wild animals. 757 00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:01,662 Not just when they go on the hunt, 758 00:39:01,686 --> 00:39:03,732 but they go on kill missions. 759 00:39:05,603 --> 00:39:07,431 They were just these ravenous beasts 760 00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:09,477 and tearing everybody out the windows 761 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,956 and ripping everybody to shreds 762 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,567 and playing with their food in a sense. 763 00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:18,573 I mean, that really-- 764 00:39:18,616 --> 00:39:20,401 when they have the overhead shot, 765 00:39:20,444 --> 00:39:25,449 it really just sets the tone for how brutal these killers 766 00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:28,147 and vampires are and how they will stop 767 00:39:28,191 --> 00:39:31,455 at nothing and they don't abide by the normal rules. 768 00:39:31,499 --> 00:39:35,024 They're in their own sort of timeline in cinematic history 769 00:39:35,067 --> 00:39:37,679 and it's brand-new. 770 00:39:37,722 --> 00:39:39,376 One of the most terrifying 771 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:40,614 spots in there is when they're 772 00:39:40,638 --> 00:39:43,424 about to eat this family, right? 773 00:39:43,467 --> 00:39:45,774 And I think they've already impaled the husband. 774 00:39:49,255 --> 00:39:52,737 And they're about to eat the wife and suck her dry 775 00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:54,130 and just devour her. 776 00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:59,962 Danny Huston's character 777 00:40:00,005 --> 00:40:01,529 takes his claw, his talon, 778 00:40:01,572 --> 00:40:03,661 and he starts playing the record. 779 00:40:05,358 --> 00:40:07,056 Whatever beautiful thing 780 00:40:07,099 --> 00:40:10,755 was on that LP has now turned into a horrible nocturn. 781 00:40:12,627 --> 00:40:14,667 It's, like, the last thing this woman is gonna hear. 782 00:40:15,673 --> 00:40:17,762 And the one line that perfectly sums up 783 00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:21,549 the killing spree is when Danny says to his victim-- 784 00:40:21,592 --> 00:40:23,551 Die! 785 00:40:47,792 --> 00:40:50,055 One of the most perfect moments in horror, 786 00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:52,014 one of the most well-constructed scenes 787 00:40:52,057 --> 00:40:54,712 is when Clarice Starling, played by Jamie Foster, 788 00:40:54,756 --> 00:40:57,715 is following a lead in these horrific serial killings. 789 00:41:03,765 --> 00:41:06,768 It just sets us up from the beginning in a beautiful way 790 00:41:06,811 --> 00:41:09,205 of, like, between expectation and what's really happening. 791 00:41:11,424 --> 00:41:14,993 We see the killer is Buffalo Bill 792 00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:20,825 and he's, like, working on his little moth collection, 793 00:41:20,869 --> 00:41:24,742 and it's crosscutting with the FBI. 794 00:41:24,786 --> 00:41:26,483 A whole SWAT team is converging 795 00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:29,225 on this one house. 796 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,838 But then the bell rings and he looks up, 797 00:41:33,882 --> 00:41:37,842 and you think it's going to be the FBI descending on him. 798 00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:39,104 FBI! Everybody down! 799 00:41:39,148 --> 00:41:40,628 Down, down, down! 800 00:41:40,671 --> 00:41:42,978 There's no one here, Jack. 801 00:41:43,021 --> 00:41:44,370 Clarice. - And, in fact, 802 00:41:44,414 --> 00:41:45,589 they're in the wrong house. 803 00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:49,680 Good afternoon. Um, sorry to bother you. 804 00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:51,029 Instead, the person at the door 805 00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:54,859 is Clarice Starling, all alone. 806 00:41:54,903 --> 00:41:57,166 Jodie Foster is five feet tall 807 00:41:57,209 --> 00:42:00,473 and 80 pounds soaking wet. 808 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:05,609 She sells it as this hard-nosed FBI agent. 809 00:42:05,653 --> 00:42:07,785 She sells the shit out of it. 810 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:09,787 I believe her entirely. 811 00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:11,180 I believe she's tough as nails. 812 00:42:11,223 --> 00:42:13,399 I believe she could take anybody on 813 00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:15,619 because of what she-- her life force 814 00:42:15,663 --> 00:42:16,925 that she brings to it. 815 00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,014 And what-- what's the problem, officer? 816 00:42:19,057 --> 00:42:20,189 My God, 817 00:42:20,232 --> 00:42:22,495 Ted Levine is brilliant. 818 00:42:24,323 --> 00:42:27,849 He chose a personality disorder of some kind, 819 00:42:27,892 --> 00:42:29,807 and the way he fleshed it out, 820 00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:33,376 every detail is so well-crafted. 821 00:42:33,419 --> 00:42:36,205 Like even when she says, "Did you know this girl?" 822 00:42:36,248 --> 00:42:37,815 Did you know her? 823 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:39,600 Was she a great big fat person? 824 00:42:39,643 --> 00:42:41,123 You realize, like, yeah, 825 00:42:41,166 --> 00:42:43,778 something is wrong with this person. 826 00:42:46,345 --> 00:42:50,349 And she knows that this guy is Buffalo Bill. 827 00:42:50,393 --> 00:42:53,004 And you can see that he knows he's busted. 828 00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:55,441 Freeze! 829 00:42:55,485 --> 00:42:57,922 Put your hands over your head and turn around! 830 00:42:57,966 --> 00:43:00,185 Spread your legs! - And he looks so helpless 831 00:43:00,229 --> 00:43:01,317 when that happens. 832 00:43:04,189 --> 00:43:06,104 And then it turns into that extended chase 833 00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:07,323 in the basement. 834 00:43:10,195 --> 00:43:11,240 There's a song playing. 835 00:43:11,283 --> 00:43:12,981 It's by a band called The Fall 836 00:43:13,024 --> 00:43:16,332 and it's echoing through this brick chamber 837 00:43:16,375 --> 00:43:19,640 as she's going down and down and looking for him 838 00:43:19,683 --> 00:43:21,119 and busting in through doors. 839 00:43:23,121 --> 00:43:25,341 And finally she sees his workshop, 840 00:43:25,384 --> 00:43:27,038 which is filled with skins. 841 00:43:27,082 --> 00:43:29,432 He's got half of his girl suit that he's been building. 842 00:43:30,738 --> 00:43:32,565 She busts into a bathroom 843 00:43:32,609 --> 00:43:36,265 and there's a rotting corpse in the bathtub. 844 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:39,311 It goes dark 845 00:43:39,355 --> 00:43:41,009 and it's totally black. 846 00:43:42,663 --> 00:43:44,577 And then you hear this little whining 847 00:43:44,621 --> 00:43:47,363 of the night vision goggles going on. 848 00:43:50,192 --> 00:43:53,282 He's got these infrared goggles on and he can see her. 849 00:43:53,325 --> 00:43:57,025 He becomes-- he becomes almost like this cyclopean monster 850 00:43:57,068 --> 00:43:58,417 because she can't see him. 851 00:43:58,461 --> 00:44:00,028 It's totally dark, 852 00:44:00,071 --> 00:44:02,334 and he's just toying with her. 853 00:44:02,378 --> 00:44:04,423 He's, like, right behind her. 854 00:44:07,339 --> 00:44:09,211 This is why people are afraid of the dark. 855 00:44:09,254 --> 00:44:10,734 That's why. 856 00:44:10,778 --> 00:44:12,518 'Cause you don't-- you can't-- 857 00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:14,738 something can see you, but you can't see it. 858 00:44:14,782 --> 00:44:17,828 That is the whole reason why we fear the dark 859 00:44:17,872 --> 00:44:20,352 and have since the time of cavemen. 860 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:24,922 And through this whole track, 861 00:44:24,966 --> 00:44:26,881 she's struggling to control her breathing 862 00:44:26,924 --> 00:44:28,534 and it's really loud. 863 00:44:28,578 --> 00:44:30,536 It's really up there in the mix 864 00:44:30,580 --> 00:44:32,060 and it just increases the intention. 865 00:44:34,149 --> 00:44:35,989 And it's just when he starts to cock the gun, 866 00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:38,370 that was the dead giveaway. 867 00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,896 Just that click, 868 00:44:41,939 --> 00:44:44,072 that's what makes her turn around and blow him away. 869 00:44:53,908 --> 00:44:56,649 You're the hunter, then you become the prey, 870 00:44:56,693 --> 00:44:58,477 and you're able to reverse it. 871 00:45:00,523 --> 00:45:02,133 Fantastic scene. 872 00:45:20,195 --> 00:45:24,025 "Suspiria" bombards you with every filmic element 873 00:45:24,068 --> 00:45:25,940 to the point where you are well-aware 874 00:45:25,983 --> 00:45:28,116 that you're watching an artifice. 875 00:45:30,683 --> 00:45:32,033 And there's something so beautiful 876 00:45:32,076 --> 00:45:34,122 and terrifying about that. 877 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,824 And even the whole opening sequence, 878 00:45:40,868 --> 00:45:42,260 the first murder... 879 00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:45,089 Who was that who's stabbing her? 880 00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:49,267 And for heart to be so exposed and then stabbing right 881 00:45:49,311 --> 00:45:51,008 into the heart with the blade... 882 00:45:52,749 --> 00:45:55,317 Those are nightmare images that are unrealistic. 883 00:45:58,537 --> 00:46:00,452 They're there to just, like, shock you. 884 00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:03,368 The whole color scheme of the movie 885 00:46:03,412 --> 00:46:05,544 reflecting emotionally what's going on. 886 00:46:08,286 --> 00:46:11,550 Dario is a master of color. 887 00:46:11,594 --> 00:46:15,163 He would not usually use calm colors. 888 00:46:18,644 --> 00:46:20,908 The reds are really red and bloodlike. 889 00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:26,000 Blue would be used when it was in contrast to red. 890 00:46:28,611 --> 00:46:30,656 Green was more likely to be used 891 00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:33,137 because it has a harsher feel, 892 00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:35,183 a less calming feel than blue does. 893 00:46:38,577 --> 00:46:43,104 So his color palette itself is incredibly passionate. 894 00:46:43,147 --> 00:46:45,062 Susie, wake up. 895 00:46:45,106 --> 00:46:47,673 Please, Susie, wake up! 896 00:46:47,717 --> 00:46:50,589 The scene in "Suspiria" where Sara is, you know, 897 00:46:50,633 --> 00:46:52,233 trying to wake Susie up, but she can't... 898 00:46:54,419 --> 00:46:56,595 And then she goes wandering around the halls 899 00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,679 all alone like one should never do in a horror film. 900 00:47:02,775 --> 00:47:05,213 She's sneaking around the ballet academy 901 00:47:05,256 --> 00:47:07,432 trying to find this missing set of notes, 902 00:47:07,476 --> 00:47:09,260 and all of a sudden, she feels like something 903 00:47:09,304 --> 00:47:11,088 is pursuing her. 904 00:47:20,881 --> 00:47:23,187 And so she locks herself 905 00:47:23,231 --> 00:47:26,799 in the room, and we see this, like, letter opener trying 906 00:47:26,843 --> 00:47:29,324 to jimmy the lock of the room that she's in 907 00:47:29,367 --> 00:47:32,022 for an eternally long time, 908 00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:36,070 to the point where you're just like, "Just up. Just lift up." 909 00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:40,335 She eventually, after hiding in the corner, 910 00:47:40,378 --> 00:47:41,640 gets the bright idea, 911 00:47:41,684 --> 00:47:43,860 "Hey, there's a window up there. 912 00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:45,079 I'll just go through." 913 00:47:45,122 --> 00:47:46,602 So she kind of drags a crate over, 914 00:47:46,645 --> 00:47:48,604 hoists herself through the window, 915 00:47:48,647 --> 00:47:50,911 not really paying a lot of attention 916 00:47:50,954 --> 00:47:53,130 to what's on the other side of this window. 917 00:47:56,481 --> 00:47:58,068 And what happens to be on the other side 918 00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,269 is the academy's room of razor wire. 919 00:48:01,312 --> 00:48:03,793 Like you have in all ballet academies, 920 00:48:03,836 --> 00:48:05,076 they have a room of razor wire. 921 00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:10,060 Who just jumps into barbed wire? 922 00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:11,975 Like, it's the last thing you're expecting. 923 00:48:14,064 --> 00:48:15,674 And Argento does that. 924 00:48:15,718 --> 00:48:18,329 I think Argento has a really good way of creating things 925 00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:19,722 that are, like, really outlandish, 926 00:48:19,765 --> 00:48:21,506 but you buy them in the universes 927 00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:23,247 that he creates. 928 00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:27,730 Although Argento had removed the barbing from the wire, 929 00:48:27,773 --> 00:48:29,906 it was pretty painful for the actress she said later. 930 00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:32,256 She said it was like being bit by thousands of ants 931 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,780 all at once. 932 00:48:34,824 --> 00:48:37,740 And I think the sense of discomfort and confusion 933 00:48:37,783 --> 00:48:39,655 is coming from a very real place. 934 00:48:44,225 --> 00:48:46,183 It's so absurd, but it's part 935 00:48:46,227 --> 00:48:48,794 of the heightened kind of fairy tale. 936 00:48:48,838 --> 00:48:49,926 She's trying to get up, 937 00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,362 but she keeps falling back into it. 938 00:48:53,408 --> 00:48:54,472 And the hand comes out with the razor blade 939 00:48:54,496 --> 00:48:57,064 and, like, slits her throat. 940 00:48:58,630 --> 00:49:01,546 And, of course, in true Argento "Giallo" fashion, 941 00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:03,853 the whole scene ends with a push-in 942 00:49:03,896 --> 00:49:07,030 on her scared eye as she dies. 943 00:49:08,336 --> 00:49:10,077 It doesn't make sense here, 944 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,600 but it makes sense here. 945 00:49:14,255 --> 00:49:16,735 It makes emotional sense because it works. 946 00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:21,740 It's so unexpected and so out of nowhere, 947 00:49:21,784 --> 00:49:24,482 that you just-- you know, it's terrifying. 948 00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:27,964 I think that's why I love horror films 949 00:49:28,008 --> 00:49:30,401 'cause the best ones are surrealist cinema. 950 00:49:35,841 --> 00:49:38,975 And surrealist cinema allows us to look at our dreams 951 00:49:39,019 --> 00:49:40,977 and explore our dreams and live our dreams 952 00:49:41,021 --> 00:49:43,632 in a safe place. 953 00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:47,810 We can maybe look at 'em again and again 954 00:49:47,853 --> 00:49:49,812 and again and again and maybe start to figure out 955 00:49:49,855 --> 00:49:51,379 what really is going on here. 70912

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