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Come on, big fella.
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That's it, kitty.
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Horror movies have
a wonderful way
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of making you know
that you'll be okay...
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But you're kind of
indulging in these feelings
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of powerlessness and fear,
like roller coasters,
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where you get to the top
of that hill and you're like,
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"I shouldn't have--
why did I do this?
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"I should not have done this.
Here I go.
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I'm doing it! Here I go!"
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"But I'm gonna be all right.
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It was good to get that out
of the system."
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That's what I love
about horror movies.
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It does strike
this primal terror...
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And yet,
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it lets you know, like...
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You'll be okay.
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You'll be all right.
You'll survive.
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Make sure you have popcorn.
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I have no intention
of losing the bay right now
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when it's ours for the asking.
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But how?
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Police.
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I'm a big fan
of "A Bay of Blood,"
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the Mario Bava film.
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It has many titles, this movie.
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It's called "A Bay of Blood."
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It's also called "Carnage."
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But there's one title
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that stands head and shoulders
above the rest
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and that is "Twitch
of the Death Nerve."
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Now that is a title and a half.
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It's basically about a
woman who gets murdered
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at the beginning of the film
by her husband.
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And then he gets murdered.
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And it kind of sets off
a chain of events
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where we find out all
these people in this family
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are kind of picking
each other off
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to get this piece of land.
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And it's just bloodshed
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from the first frame
to the last.
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Mario Bava started
as a cameraman.
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His father was a cameraman,
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and he was a pictorialist.
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And his movies
are gorgeously lit,
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whether he photographs them
or not.
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And the deaths in the movies,
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particularly
in "A Bay of Blood,"
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are presented
as gorgeous tableaus
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of macabre.
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It's really playful and stylish.
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You have all these characters
with their own motivations
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running around wild locations
in great clothes
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and finding themselves
murdered in extravagant ways.
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It's horror almost by
the way of "Tom and Jerry."
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It's got to that sort of,
like, point where, like,
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the kills are so sort of extreme
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and they're somewhat comedic,
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just in their, like, brutality.
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No!
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In "Bay of Blood,"
there's this scene
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where this couple
is making love on a bed
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and they are impaled.
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It's during a sex scene,
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and the sex scene does not
feel romantic in any way
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because you have this woman
on top of the guy.
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You don't see their faces.
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You just see grinding flesh.
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But also the guy has his hands
out in a way
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where he's holding on
to the back of her head
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and it looks like
he's just devouring her face.
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So it's almost like, kill them.
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They're having terrible sex,
clearly.
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You see the couple as they die.
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They're, like, stuck together
and they're writhing,
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you know, against one another,
and it's kind of like
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this still kind of sexual
in a way
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that you don't really want it
to be, but it is,
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so you feel uncomfortable.
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But you're also watching
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to people die, so you feel bad
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for thinking that there's
anything sexy about it.
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There are elements of that movie
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that show up in slasher films,
and particularly
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in the "Friday the 13th" series.
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In fact, there's a shock
in "Friday the 13th Part 2,"
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which is directly ripped off
from "Bay of Blood,"
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where two people having sex
are speared mid-coitus
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and the spear,
like, pins them to the bed.
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The difference
with "Bay of Blood" though
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to the slasher films
is that the twist
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is not dissimilar
to some Agatha Christie books:
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they're all the killer.
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Also ripped off in the film
"Hot Fuzz."
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Same twist:
they're all the killer.
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So I see "Bay of Blood"
as a very gory, X-rated
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Agatha Christie film.
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My God.
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It's standing right behind you.
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"The Conjuring."
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"The Conjuring" is top-notch
scarefest.
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James Wan at his peak.
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All the scares are slow burners
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and they take their time.
- What is it?
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And it always happens
behind the character.
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The audience
can fill in the blanks
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with their imagination.
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And it-- things don't have
to be these, like,
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gazillion dollar CGI effects.
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So you could have something
very simple...
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That will get
the audience really going.
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Boo, Mommy!
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I would say
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that the hide and clap scene
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is, like, that standout
memorable moment.
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Remember, you get to ask me
for three claps.
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Okay.
- And you get the pattern
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of what that game is like.
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It's just her, blindfolded,
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walking around the house.
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First clap!
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Clap, clap.
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She's over there.
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Shit.
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Second clap.
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I'm gonna go follow that.
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April.
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And it's such an innocent moment
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where she's having
a bonding moment
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and playing with her child.
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And it was just very effective
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to take something so innocent
and turn it so dark.
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I know where you're hiding.
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Give me the third clap.
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I can hear you breathing.
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April?
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April?
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Ha ha,
you took your blindfold off.
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I win!
You weren't even warm, Mom.
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I was in Christine
and Nancy's room.
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And then
the hide and clap mechanic
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returns when you start getting
traditional bump in the night
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kind of scares...
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Which guide her down
into the basement.
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Who is that?
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Whosever down there,
I'm gonna lock you in now!
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Everybody in the audience,
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100% of everybody
in the audience
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is convinced
when she's light the match...
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That the thing,
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whatever it is, is down there.
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Hey, wanna play hide and clap?
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James Wan got you,
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and he got you so bad.
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Roping in an innocent
children's game
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and applying that
to haunted house tropes...
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Clap.
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That's horror.
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We've become such homebodies.
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Yes, yes.
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The chores
have become my sanctuary.
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Get out.
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Sorry, man.
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Get out!
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Yo!
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Yo, chill, man!
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Get out!
- Chill, chill!
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Just chill, man!
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How lucky are we
to kind of be this far
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into movies and culture
and to be a witness
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to another culturally
zeitgeist-grabbing horror movie
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like "Get Out"?
- A lot of my family
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and my friends said, "You know,
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"it is the perfect
Black horror film
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"because it definitely deals
with fears
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"that a lot
of African Americans feel
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and have felt."
- Yo!
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Somebody help! Yo!
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Hey!
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"Get Out" follows Chris
as he embarks
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on meeting his white
girlfriend's, Rose's, parents
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for the first time.
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He asks her...
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Do they know I'm Black?
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No.
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Should they?
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And you see kind
of the casual dismissiveness
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of "It's no big deal.
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"There's nothing to worry about.
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They're not racist."
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And then the film unfolds...
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As it does.
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Chris just can't sleep.
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He's wandering in the hallway.
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There's Missy waiting
with her teacup.
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Come in and sit with me.
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Please.
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And then there
is this literal descent,
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for him anyway, into hell
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that begins
from this very quiet,
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genteel encounter.
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So you think
you're just going through
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the hypnosis scene in one way
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with the Catherine Keener
character
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that is very, very trusting
and very relatable
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and like the mother
that a lot of us go to visit
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at our friend's
or our partner's house.
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We do use focal points sometimes
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to guide someone to a state
of heightened suggestibility.
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Heightened suggestibility.
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That's right.
- And then it becomes
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completely dark and sadistic
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and manipulative
and treacherous.
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What about your mother?
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What about her?
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Wait, are we--
- Where were you
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when she died?
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Her kind of witchy hypnosis
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to prime Chris to go back
into his childhood...
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How do you feel now?
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I can't move.
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You can't move.
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Now sink into the floor.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- Sink.
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This iconic image,
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Chris floating
in that nothingness,
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but also being, like, seen
from the outside
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by Catherine Keener's
character, the hypnotist,
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it's an amazing image, right?
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And it's so filled with, like,
different types of resonances.
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Now you're in the sunken place.
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You are trapped, voiceless,
without agency
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in this sunken place
just hits such a chord
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with so many viewers,
not just Black viewers,
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because the movie did great
for everyone.
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But especially
for Black viewers,
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it really feels like something
that is true
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as much as it is terrifying.
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It's a really great metaphor
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for the stereotyping
of Black people.
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You ever get in street fights
as a kid?
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Because a stereotype
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is actually, like, about fixity.
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It's about a cage
that you're put in
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and you're always trying
to slip out of that cage.
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That fixity is something
that you deal with every day.
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That freaked me out.
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That's the part that scared me.
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More than all the other things,
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that was the horror part of it.
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It wasn't about
people being decapitated
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or things like that.
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That was way deeper
and way subtle
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and I didn't get the movie
until that happened.
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And then it's like,
"That's what this is about?"
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You know?
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Nothing in this life
makes me happier
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than the fact that Showtime
gave David Lynch
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clearly more money
than he'd ever had
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in his life to make a movie
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to make an 18-hour miniseries.
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David Lynch is so great
at telling a visual story.
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He explains so much
while explaining nothing.
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He answers so many questions
while begging so many more.
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I've never seen
a better example of that
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than in episode eight
of "Twin Peaks."
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Episode eight
is the atomic episode.
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It is unlike anything else
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in that version of "Twin Peaks"
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and it's unlike anything else
anywhere.
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The episode really begins
with beautiful footage
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of the first atomic bomb
explosion in Alamogordo
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and then tricked it out
with VFX.
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It's playing to a piece
of classical music
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by Krzysztof Penderecki
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called "Threnody
for the Victims of Hiroshima,"
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and it's gorgeous and discordant
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and it perfectly matches
this slow atomic blast
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that goes on and on
and on and on.
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One of the things film
does best is play with time
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and play with your perception
of time.
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And "Twin Peaks: The Return"
really plays
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with your perception of time,
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sometimes in a way
deliberately intended
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to aggravate you it seems,
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and other times
it is to hypnotize you
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and to draw you into this world.
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And essentially
what's happening in the world
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of "Twin Peaks" is that it
is ripping open the fabric
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of space and time
and allowing evil demons
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to come into our world.
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These kind of burnt-up guys,
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presumably from the atomic fire.
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So the Woodsman's the main guy
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and he says infamously,
you know,
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"Got a light?"
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Got a light?
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Got a light?
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And then he makes his way
to a radio station.
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And it's been playing just
like a '50s monster movie...
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Until he comes up to the DJ
and squishes the guy's head
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in a way you would never see
in a '50s monster movie.
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You think, "This'll be,
like, a fun thrill.
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My God, he actually crushed
that man's skull."
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It's so fucking sober.
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He leans into the microphone
and says...
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As he says this--
this chant over and over,
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it puts everyone to sleep
in the town.
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And they all go
into some ambulant trance.
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I find that I remember
David Lynch's stuff
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like a nightmare.
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That's kind of how it
is with that moth-fish thing.
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But I do remember
being totally disgusted
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'cause anything like
that crawling
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into someone's mouth...
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I mean, talk about danger.
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Talk about mystery.
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It's nice
to not feel safe sometimes
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watching something.
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And you do not feel safe
watching that episode at all.
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Some of the best horror movies,
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you didn't know they were horror
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when you started watching them.
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"Pan's Labyrinth" is one
of those movies.
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It started and I was like,
"Great.
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It's about the civil war
and Franco.
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It's a great
Guillermo del Toro movie
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set in the real world."
329
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My grandfather grew up
in those places
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and those times,
so watching that movie
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was just to hear
the fantasy version
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of all the tales
my grandfather would tell.
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"Pan's Labyrinth" is about
a young girl in 1944 Spain,
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where the fascists have
already won the civil war
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and they're in control.
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She moves from the city
with her mother,
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who was extremely pregnant
and sick,
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to her stepfather's compound,
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who is a very evil fascist.
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Ofelia, she discovers
a magical world
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and you start to see both
worlds intertwine--
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the real world
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with the atrocities
of the fascists...
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And then the magical
supernatural world.
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That moment when she goes
through that hole in the floor
346
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and just comes out
in this such a bizarre world.
347
00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:09,672
And it's a great scene
for many reasons.
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I mean, first
because it shows the genius
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of del Toro's creations.
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It's like, "What is that thing
and what is it doing?
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Is it sleeping?"
352
00:18:20,881 --> 00:18:23,536
And then that thing comes
to life.
353
00:18:27,975 --> 00:18:29,344
The moment
that really terrified me
354
00:18:29,368 --> 00:18:32,632
was the Pale Man walking down
the hallway.
355
00:18:32,676 --> 00:18:37,202
The redesign
of the makeup artist reinvented
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00:18:37,246 --> 00:18:41,250
and they created this thing
that I hadn't seen before.
357
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It's a great combination
of design and performance,
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I think, and general vision
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because that moment
is really terrifying.
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If you notice, it's the people
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that are the most violent.
362
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It is the people
that are the most evil.
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What we see
with the supernatural world,
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00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:03,228
yes, the Pale Man was eating
the fairies...
365
00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:08,625
And eats children,
but he was a metaphor
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00:19:08,668 --> 00:19:10,540
for what was happening
with the humans.
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When a child cannot trust
the adults in charge of her
368
00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:17,262
and when they are prone
to violence...
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Not only is it
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a universal fear,
but it brings about
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00:19:21,681 --> 00:19:26,469
an innate biological revulsion
in people
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that you would see
a fantastical world as a--
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yeah, go there.
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00:19:32,692 --> 00:19:34,912
Get away from that monster.
Go to that monster.
375
00:19:39,699 --> 00:19:41,658
Let's have a baby.
376
00:19:41,701 --> 00:19:42,920
Let's have three babies,
377
00:19:42,963 --> 00:19:44,400
one at a time, all right?
378
00:19:48,882 --> 00:19:50,449
As a model of storytelling,
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00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:53,278
I mean, you really can't beat
"Rosemary's Baby."
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It's as close to a perfect movie
381
00:19:55,889 --> 00:19:58,979
as anyone has made, I think.
382
00:19:59,023 --> 00:20:01,025
From the casting
to the way it looks
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00:20:01,068 --> 00:20:02,983
to the level of humor.
384
00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:05,421
He has his father's eyes.
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00:20:05,464 --> 00:20:07,118
There's not a note wrong
with it.
386
00:20:07,161 --> 00:20:09,729
I mean,
everything works perfectly.
387
00:20:11,514 --> 00:20:12,689
And it's scary as hell.
388
00:20:15,169 --> 00:20:16,649
It's lovely.
389
00:20:16,693 --> 00:20:18,390
You'll get used to the smell
390
00:20:18,434 --> 00:20:19,478
before you know it.
391
00:20:21,698 --> 00:20:24,353
We sort of suspect it,
you know, more than she does
392
00:20:24,396 --> 00:20:26,659
that there's nefarious things
happening, you know,
393
00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:29,053
all around her between
her husband and the neighbors.
394
00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:36,408
You know what's happening
to her and she doesn't.
395
00:20:36,452 --> 00:20:39,324
Madame and monsieur shall
have ze dessert after all.
396
00:20:39,368 --> 00:20:40,804
What?
- Mousse au chocolat
397
00:20:40,847 --> 00:20:43,197
or as Minnie calls it,
"chocolate mouse."
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00:20:44,721 --> 00:20:46,984
She really is like
an innocent lamb
399
00:20:47,027 --> 00:20:48,333
to the slaughter.
400
00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,466
Has an undertaste.
401
00:20:50,509 --> 00:20:52,206
Come on,
the old bat slaved all day.
402
00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:53,556
Now eat it.
403
00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,645
I don't like it.
- It's delicious.
404
00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:57,951
One of the beautiful things
that that film does
405
00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,651
is to put the audience
into Rosemary's skin.
406
00:21:05,263 --> 00:21:07,744
And then of course that, like,
magnificent
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00:21:07,787 --> 00:21:10,529
sort of dream rape scene.
408
00:21:10,573 --> 00:21:13,227
That sequence is a short little
film in itself
409
00:21:13,271 --> 00:21:15,012
and just extraordinary.
410
00:21:16,796 --> 00:21:19,582
The dream sequence is one
of the best dream sequences
411
00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:23,281
in the history of movies
because it really plays
412
00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:24,717
like a dream.
413
00:21:28,547 --> 00:21:30,984
It doesn't have
Salvador Dalí faces
414
00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,548
and it doesn't have mist
on the ground.
415
00:21:36,381 --> 00:21:40,254
It's lived and seen
like it's happening,
416
00:21:40,298 --> 00:21:42,256
but it's got
a sort of a veneer over it.
417
00:21:44,911 --> 00:21:47,436
Characters in the story appear
in places
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00:21:47,479 --> 00:21:49,655
that they wouldn't ordinarily.
419
00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:51,440
And there was, I think,
JFK is in it
420
00:21:51,483 --> 00:21:53,964
and there's all sorts
of iconic people in it.
421
00:21:56,096 --> 00:21:58,142
She's awake. She sees.
- She don't see.
422
00:21:58,185 --> 00:21:59,815
As long as she ate the mouse,
she can't see nor hear.
423
00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:01,711
She's like dead now. Sing.
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00:22:06,193 --> 00:22:09,066
It's a very particular
kind of dream
425
00:22:09,109 --> 00:22:12,417
that of course, like,
goes very badly in the end.
426
00:22:19,598 --> 00:22:22,122
Because you see it
from her perspective
427
00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:25,212
and she's not alarmed
and that moment
428
00:22:25,256 --> 00:22:27,693
where she says, you know, like,
"Do you forgive me, father?"
429
00:22:28,912 --> 00:22:30,827
Am I forgiven, father?
430
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:33,830
Absolutely.
431
00:22:37,268 --> 00:22:39,270
God. It's just...
432
00:22:39,313 --> 00:22:41,141
I just, like, shivered a bit
433
00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:42,185
thinking about it.
434
00:22:45,885 --> 00:22:47,017
This is no dream.
435
00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:49,236
This is really happening!
436
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,716
One of the things I find
437
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,457
that people get really
put out by
438
00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:54,459
is when she wakes up the next
day,
439
00:22:54,503 --> 00:22:56,896
Guy, played by
John Cassavetes, says...
440
00:22:56,940 --> 00:22:58,637
I didn't wanna miss baby night.
441
00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:00,310
You-- while I was out?
- And a couple of my nails
442
00:23:00,334 --> 00:23:01,814
were ragged and--
443
00:23:01,858 --> 00:23:05,470
and it was kind of fun
in a necrophile sort of way.
444
00:23:11,563 --> 00:23:14,740
There's no jump scares
in that movie.
445
00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,002
It's all atmosphere.
446
00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:18,352
It's all suggestion.
447
00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:21,486
You don't even really see
anything, really.
448
00:23:25,098 --> 00:23:27,666
But it's the idea
that's so horrific.
449
00:23:30,756 --> 00:23:33,498
Is it all right?
450
00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:35,239
Yes.
451
00:23:35,282 --> 00:23:36,762
It's fine.
452
00:23:41,593 --> 00:23:43,987
"Inside" is part of the French
New Extremity movement,
453
00:23:44,030 --> 00:23:45,989
this wave of French horror films
454
00:23:46,032 --> 00:23:48,295
that essentially pull
no punches.
455
00:23:56,260 --> 00:23:59,219
It is a movie about a woman
who is pregnant.
456
00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:00,960
She is also now a widow.
457
00:24:01,004 --> 00:24:02,571
It's Christmas Eve.
458
00:24:02,614 --> 00:24:04,734
She is going to be induced
the next day to give birth.
459
00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:13,364
She is in the throes of grief
460
00:24:13,407 --> 00:24:15,037
while also questioning
whether she actually wants
461
00:24:15,061 --> 00:24:17,281
to be a mother.
462
00:24:17,324 --> 00:24:18,935
She's alone at home,
463
00:24:18,978 --> 00:24:20,658
and there's a late-night knock
on the door.
464
00:24:23,766 --> 00:24:25,637
It is another woman
465
00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:27,030
and she wants her baby.
466
00:24:29,336 --> 00:24:32,165
And what ensues
is this absolutely incredible
467
00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:33,993
home invasion movie
like no other.
468
00:24:38,476 --> 00:24:39,912
It's a very tense film
469
00:24:39,956 --> 00:24:41,760
and it kind of exploits
that fear of motherhood
470
00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,239
that "Rosemary's Baby" did,
but it amps it up, you know,
471
00:24:43,263 --> 00:24:44,613
1,000 times more.
472
00:24:47,616 --> 00:24:49,056
It's so well-acted
by the two leads
473
00:24:49,095 --> 00:24:52,185
that it makes it even harder
to watch.
474
00:24:52,229 --> 00:24:53,796
Béatrice Dalle,
she's something else.
475
00:24:56,929 --> 00:24:58,583
Definitely the toughest scene,
476
00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:02,848
one of the most devastating
things on film
477
00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:04,546
I've ever seen...
478
00:25:04,589 --> 00:25:06,983
Is when she's hiding
in the bathroom...
479
00:25:16,993 --> 00:25:20,474
Her mom comes to check on her.
480
00:25:20,518 --> 00:25:21,650
The mom comes up the stairs.
481
00:25:21,693 --> 00:25:23,347
She doesn't know it's her mom.
482
00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:26,437
She's all crazed and terrified
from this woman.
483
00:25:28,178 --> 00:25:30,528
And then she comes
bursting out...
484
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:33,270
And stabs her mother.
485
00:25:34,793 --> 00:25:36,708
My God.
486
00:25:36,752 --> 00:25:40,407
Imagine stabbing
your own mother.
487
00:25:41,887 --> 00:25:44,020
Who can imagine such a thing?
488
00:25:44,063 --> 00:25:47,632
Who could even conceive
of what they would do
489
00:25:47,676 --> 00:25:49,547
if they did something like that?
490
00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:53,116
Who knows what that looks like?
491
00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:57,337
This actress shows us what
that looks like.
492
00:25:57,381 --> 00:26:00,471
Maman.
493
00:26:00,514 --> 00:26:02,560
That moment kind of owes
something to "Tenebrae"
494
00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:04,170
and the great blood spray
on the wall.
495
00:26:06,259 --> 00:26:08,392
But it did really making
its own and I love
496
00:26:08,435 --> 00:26:11,351
that it's not simply
a "Look what we did"
497
00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,136
and "Look what we're nodding
to."
498
00:26:13,179 --> 00:26:15,399
It's not purely homage
and it's not purely just
499
00:26:15,442 --> 00:26:16,835
recreating it.
500
00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:18,271
It's really doing its own thing
501
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,838
of "The threat is now
in your home"
502
00:26:21,448 --> 00:26:23,276
And you're gonna have to sit,
503
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,975
as the audience, in agony,
504
00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:28,020
waiting for her to strike
505
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:29,848
'cause it's not gonna happen
right now.
506
00:26:29,892 --> 00:26:32,132
And I think that goes a long
way in making a movie scary.
507
00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,079
And "Se7en" is as much
a horror movie
508
00:26:43,122 --> 00:26:45,385
as it is a detective thriller.
509
00:26:47,779 --> 00:26:50,390
"Se7en's" about a series
of killings
510
00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:53,176
that take place
in an unnamed city,
511
00:26:53,219 --> 00:26:55,395
where each of the killings,
one by one,
512
00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:58,572
is based on one
of the seven deadly sins.
513
00:26:58,616 --> 00:26:59,661
Gluttony,
514
00:26:59,704 --> 00:27:01,227
greed,
515
00:27:01,271 --> 00:27:03,099
sloth, wrath,
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00:27:03,142 --> 00:27:04,143
pride,
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00:27:04,187 --> 00:27:05,231
lust,
518
00:27:05,275 --> 00:27:07,103
and envy.
519
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:12,606
Walking down the streets
of New York City at the time,
520
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:14,501
you know, late '80s,
521
00:27:14,545 --> 00:27:17,330
if you didn't put blinders on
to man's plight around you,
522
00:27:17,374 --> 00:27:19,289
you would literally see
a deadly sin
523
00:27:19,332 --> 00:27:20,551
on every street corner.
524
00:27:24,642 --> 00:27:26,078
It's always raining.
525
00:27:26,122 --> 00:27:29,952
You're always in alleyways
or seedy environments.
526
00:27:29,995 --> 00:27:32,041
It's always dark there.
527
00:27:33,259 --> 00:27:37,742
Searching the crime scenes
with flashlights.
528
00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:41,093
So that whole movie
is about discovery.
529
00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:43,313
This guy goes by the name
of Victor.
530
00:27:43,356 --> 00:27:45,924
His prints were found
at the scene by Homicide.
531
00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:50,426
If there's any big scare
in "Se7en,"
532
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:51,887
it's probably sloth.
533
00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:55,542
The SWAT team is ready
534
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:59,111
to break into
this assailant's space, right?
535
00:27:59,155 --> 00:28:01,287
You know,
all their hypermasculine guns
536
00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:02,593
are everywhere.
537
00:28:04,334 --> 00:28:07,946
You're taking a lot
of tough SWAT guys,
538
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:10,993
going in with practically
army gear and shotguns
539
00:28:11,036 --> 00:28:13,299
and flashlights
and feeling fully prepared
540
00:28:13,343 --> 00:28:15,258
for whatever
they were gonna find.
541
00:28:15,301 --> 00:28:17,477
Police!
542
00:28:17,521 --> 00:28:19,368
And the trick was to have
them completely unprepared
543
00:28:19,392 --> 00:28:22,091
for what they do find.
544
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:23,962
Fincher does such a great job
545
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:27,531
of just making you feel like
you can smell the room
546
00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:28,638
with all
the little air fresheners
547
00:28:28,662 --> 00:28:29,662
hanging everywhere.
548
00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:38,324
Fuck me.
549
00:28:40,544 --> 00:28:42,285
And you think you're walking
550
00:28:42,328 --> 00:28:44,896
into this grizzly,
brutal crime scene
551
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:47,725
of this completely emaciated
human being,
552
00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:49,814
just left for dead.
553
00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:52,512
He's desiccated.
554
00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:54,471
He looks like he's been dead
for a while.
555
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,085
The makeup is
so beautiful and so horrific
556
00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:04,481
and provocative
all at the same time.
557
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,529
I couldn't get it
out of my head.
558
00:29:09,573 --> 00:29:12,097
But of course, the lead
tactical guy leads and say--
559
00:29:12,141 --> 00:29:15,231
You got what you deserved.
560
00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:19,322
Then he wakes up.
561
00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:22,629
That's a big gotcha moment.
562
00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:25,763
Friends of mine used to call
that a sphincter factor of ten.
563
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:27,591
Choo.
564
00:29:29,898 --> 00:29:31,595
There's nothing
that could prepare them
565
00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:35,468
for the absolute horror
of Sloth waking up.
566
00:29:35,512 --> 00:29:36,948
This must be the first one--
567
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:39,168
dated exactly
one year ago today.
568
00:29:39,211 --> 00:29:42,867
As an audience member,
knowing that that person
569
00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:45,609
is still alive, I can't
imagine the final moments
570
00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:47,002
of this person's life.
571
00:29:47,045 --> 00:29:49,482
He's experienced about
as much pain and suffering
572
00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:51,789
as anyone I've encountered,
give or take.
573
00:29:51,833 --> 00:29:54,748
It's just torturous
on a whole other level.
574
00:29:54,792 --> 00:29:56,838
And he still has hell
to look forward to.
575
00:29:58,404 --> 00:30:00,972
One of the keys to "Se7en"
was trying to--
576
00:30:01,016 --> 00:30:04,019
as the cops walk into
the scene of each killing,
577
00:30:04,062 --> 00:30:07,326
to get in the head
of the victim enough
578
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:10,242
that you as an audience member
would be saying,
579
00:30:10,286 --> 00:30:12,766
"My God, what if
I were in that situation?"
580
00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,422
You know, this isn't
gonna have a happy ending.
581
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:26,084
"Zodiac" is a very unique film,
582
00:30:26,128 --> 00:30:31,263
and coming off of the noir-ish,
beautiful, heightened nightmare
583
00:30:31,307 --> 00:30:33,918
that Fincher tapped
into with "Se7en,"
584
00:30:33,962 --> 00:30:36,573
he hit something else
with "Zodiac" that I think
585
00:30:36,616 --> 00:30:40,925
is pretty profound, and that's
a sense of utter realism.
586
00:30:40,969 --> 00:30:42,424
Because it was based
587
00:30:42,448 --> 00:30:46,148
on a real case, Fincher very
deliberately made a lot
588
00:30:46,191 --> 00:30:49,847
of creative decisions that were
the exact opposite of "Se7en."
589
00:30:49,891 --> 00:30:52,197
I think part of the reason
for that was to be respectful
590
00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:53,851
to the people who actually died.
591
00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:57,463
There is no gimmicks
and weird camera movements
592
00:30:57,507 --> 00:30:59,552
because the intention
is different.
593
00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:02,294
It's, like, immersing you
in the reality of that.
594
00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:04,470
It's a movie
about the bureaucracy
595
00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:06,559
of investigating a murder.
596
00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,605
I hear you have some files
for us.
597
00:31:08,648 --> 00:31:10,215
I'll show you mine,
you show me yours.
598
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:14,045
I find "Zodiac"
to be a riveting procedural.
599
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:16,700
But what Fincher does,
and why I think "Zodiac"
600
00:31:16,743 --> 00:31:19,833
is a horror film
is that amid all of this
601
00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:22,314
incredible procedural work,
602
00:31:22,358 --> 00:31:24,969
he treats us
to one of the most upsetting
603
00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:27,624
and suspenseful sequences ever
604
00:31:27,667 --> 00:31:29,756
in a story
about a serial killer--
605
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,412
the murder of the couple
by the lake, which plays out
606
00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:35,893
as close as I can imagine
an event like that
607
00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:37,634
actually playing out.
608
00:31:37,677 --> 00:31:39,462
Somebody else is here.
609
00:31:39,505 --> 00:31:41,681
It is a public park.
610
00:31:41,725 --> 00:31:45,076
Just punches you in the gut,
because it is just a couple
611
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,731
having a nice moment
in the park,
612
00:31:47,774 --> 00:31:51,387
and then this creep shows up
in this, like, black hood.
613
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:54,607
It's not the incredible
low-angled silhouette
614
00:31:54,651 --> 00:31:56,044
with the dripping rain you get
615
00:31:56,087 --> 00:31:57,456
in "Se7en" when you meet
the killer.
616
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,134
This is just a normal person
617
00:31:59,177 --> 00:32:00,570
on the periphery of the scene,
618
00:32:00,613 --> 00:32:02,354
stepping out
and looking pretty silly.
619
00:32:02,398 --> 00:32:03,965
My God, he has a gun.
620
00:32:05,183 --> 00:32:06,793
Don't move.
621
00:32:06,837 --> 00:32:09,318
He does keep the killer
at quite a distance.
622
00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,321
Fincher is a genius
at what he shows you,
623
00:32:12,364 --> 00:32:13,733
because he doesn't want
you to see anything
624
00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:15,498
that the victims don't.
625
00:32:15,541 --> 00:32:17,935
You know they're not gonna
survive this moment.
626
00:32:17,979 --> 00:32:20,372
That information, whatever
they glean, goes with them,
627
00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:21,634
and that's haunting.
628
00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:23,288
Are you all done?
629
00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:26,552
The shot selection
is very subjective.
630
00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:29,686
It's very much about what you
should and shouldn't see
631
00:32:29,729 --> 00:32:31,775
in a given moment,
and there's no music.
632
00:32:31,818 --> 00:32:35,692
There's none of the seasoning
that a serial killer movie
633
00:32:35,735 --> 00:32:37,172
would employ.
634
00:32:37,215 --> 00:32:42,177
It's just so unflinchingly
matter-of-fact
635
00:32:42,220 --> 00:32:44,527
that it becomes
a level of horror
636
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:45,919
that I think is far worse.
637
00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:55,494
I can't remember many moments
in film where you actually see
638
00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:58,062
the brutality
of a murder so vividly.
639
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,152
The stabbing of the couple
in the park,
640
00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:02,849
that's when I turned it off.
641
00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:04,764
It was too real.
642
00:33:04,808 --> 00:33:09,552
But my intention is to go back
and see how he shot that.
643
00:33:09,595 --> 00:33:11,945
Why did it affect me like that?
644
00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:14,905
A murder like that can be told
645
00:33:14,948 --> 00:33:16,689
in a thousand different ways.
646
00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:18,517
It can be elegant.
647
00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:23,000
You can hide, and he decided in
that moment to just show it.
648
00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,370
That's one of the moments in
film where you don't wanna see,
649
00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:27,135
because you know it's real.
650
00:33:27,178 --> 00:33:31,095
You know the victims are real,
and he takes you to the edge.
651
00:33:38,537 --> 00:33:39,930
The chimps are infected.
652
00:33:46,284 --> 00:33:49,418
We like to focus a lot today
on "elevated horror,"
653
00:33:49,461 --> 00:33:51,202
things that look beautifully
cinematic.
654
00:33:52,638 --> 00:33:55,685
But there's also an ugliness
655
00:33:55,728 --> 00:33:58,340
that can be
as beautiful as well.
656
00:33:58,383 --> 00:34:00,255
"28 Days Later,"
there is no other film
657
00:34:00,298 --> 00:34:04,041
I can compare it to
visually at all.
658
00:34:07,914 --> 00:34:09,220
Always, when there's
659
00:34:09,264 --> 00:34:11,744
a zombie on-screen, it's fast.
660
00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:14,399
It's high-shutter.
It's quick cuts,
661
00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,184
and the sound design
is so amped up.
662
00:34:18,186 --> 00:34:20,405
The infection
and the sounds and all that,
663
00:34:20,449 --> 00:34:22,538
they all feel
like such a threat.
664
00:34:24,626 --> 00:34:26,411
One of the things
665
00:34:26,454 --> 00:34:29,675
that "28 Days Later" did--
it's a virus--
666
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,981
There's something in the blood.
667
00:34:32,025 --> 00:34:34,070
By the time they tried
to evacuate the cities,
668
00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:35,550
it was already too late.
669
00:34:35,594 --> 00:34:37,640
And you can just get it
while you're alive.
670
00:34:37,682 --> 00:34:40,599
Like, you could just get a drop
of blood in your eye.
671
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:43,036
And you'll become a zombie.
672
00:34:49,217 --> 00:34:51,349
That's the beauty
of "28 Days Later,"
673
00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:53,221
is it just deals with
the humanity of things,
674
00:34:53,264 --> 00:34:54,657
and it's so grounded.
675
00:34:56,311 --> 00:34:59,314
So I'm Frank, anyway.
- Jim.
676
00:34:59,357 --> 00:35:01,403
You meet
Brendan Gleeson's character.
677
00:35:01,446 --> 00:35:03,840
You meet his daughter.
- This is my daughter, Hannah.
678
00:35:03,883 --> 00:35:07,931
All four of these travelers
trek to find an outpost.
679
00:35:07,974 --> 00:35:09,411
Look over there.
680
00:35:13,806 --> 00:35:15,330
Like a family.
681
00:35:15,373 --> 00:35:17,462
This might be a place
where they could be safe
682
00:35:17,506 --> 00:35:21,205
and where they might be able to
live some semblance of a life.
683
00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:23,207
They get to the outpost
and they realize
684
00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:25,992
that it's been abandoned.
685
00:35:26,036 --> 00:35:28,317
We should check the vehicles.
There has to be something.
686
00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:31,911
Frank.
- We have to go.
687
00:35:31,955 --> 00:35:33,870
Yeah.
- Go fucking where?
688
00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,019
So obviously, there's this level
689
00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:39,789
of frustration in the scene
690
00:35:39,832 --> 00:35:41,921
where Brendan Gleeson's
just having a moment.
691
00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:45,142
He sees this crow
pecking away at a body.
692
00:35:51,104 --> 00:35:53,106
Get out of here.
693
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,021
And when that blood falls--
694
00:35:55,065 --> 00:35:58,286
It's just, "No."
695
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:03,987
And the way it just cuts so
fast from the point of view
696
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:07,817
of the drop to his eye red
to him covering his face
697
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:09,340
and telling
his daughter, "Back off."
698
00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,995
Dad?
Are you all right?
699
00:36:12,038 --> 00:36:15,433
Yeah, I'm fine, sweetheart.
700
00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:17,174
Sorry I lost my temper.
701
00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:21,047
It's this moment of, like,
extraordinary--
702
00:36:21,091 --> 00:36:22,788
heartbreak.
703
00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:24,790
Keep away from me.
704
00:36:24,834 --> 00:36:26,618
Stay where you are.
705
00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:28,272
Dad?
- Keep away!
706
00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:29,273
'Cause we know what's coming,
707
00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:30,970
and he knows what's coming,
708
00:36:31,014 --> 00:36:33,364
and everybody in the scenario
knows what's coming.
709
00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:35,192
It's almost like
the perspective shifts.
710
00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:38,239
At first, you're in it
with him as the observer,
711
00:36:38,282 --> 00:36:41,764
and then you almost take
the seat of his daughter,
712
00:36:41,807 --> 00:36:45,942
and you're watching him just
transform into a monster.
713
00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:48,640
Jim!
Jim, he's infected!
714
00:36:48,684 --> 00:36:50,207
No! No!
715
00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:51,904
What makes it so gut-wrenching
716
00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:53,950
and so scary and so iconic
717
00:36:53,993 --> 00:36:57,127
is also the tragedy
of that moment as well,
718
00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,391
because tragedy
is the sister of fear.
719
00:37:03,568 --> 00:37:06,092
A lot of things are made
all the more disturbing
720
00:37:06,136 --> 00:37:08,791
and horrific,
because it is so sad.
721
00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:10,314
Jim!
- No!
722
00:37:10,358 --> 00:37:12,011
Jim, get him!
- Dad!
723
00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:13,622
Jim!
724
00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:16,712
It's as though
that last bit of humanity
725
00:37:16,755 --> 00:37:18,322
has gone from the world.
726
00:37:30,769 --> 00:37:32,597
Jesus!
727
00:37:32,641 --> 00:37:33,685
Christ!
728
00:37:42,259 --> 00:37:43,913
"30 Days of Night,"
729
00:37:43,956 --> 00:37:47,308
that is a seriously underrated
vampire horror movie.
730
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:52,356
Danny Huston
is absolutely brilliant
731
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,532
and equally terrifying
in that role.
732
00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:56,491
Die!
733
00:37:56,534 --> 00:37:59,624
Yeah, you're just not used
to seeing vampires like that.
734
00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:03,367
Nothing sexual
and sensual about it.
735
00:38:03,411 --> 00:38:04,692
You know, it's like,
there's no like,
736
00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:07,066
"I'm about to seduce you
and take time
737
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:09,330
to turn you into a vamp-- no.
738
00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:10,766
They won't turn you
into a vampire.
739
00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:12,028
They just wanna eat you.
740
00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:16,835
They're not related to
anything around Christianity.
741
00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:18,010
Who are you people?
742
00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:19,340
They're a species.
743
00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:25,520
Vampires have definitely
become much more romantic
744
00:38:25,563 --> 00:38:27,173
over the years,
and in this movie,
745
00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:29,306
they are not your
sparkly "Twilight" vampires.
746
00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:30,916
Are you afraid?
747
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,353
No.
748
00:38:32,396 --> 00:38:34,398
These are not
the kind of vampires
749
00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:35,882
you wanna bring home
to your parents.
750
00:38:37,358 --> 00:38:39,664
These are the vampires
that will completely behead
751
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:41,579
and massacre your parents
and your whole family
752
00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:42,928
and then probably make you watch
753
00:38:42,972 --> 00:38:44,930
before they
take you out as well.
754
00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,758
One of the quintessential
755
00:38:46,802 --> 00:38:49,848
moments of that film
is the vampire killing spree.
756
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:58,422
It's almost like
watching wild animals.
757
00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:01,662
Not just when
they go on the hunt,
758
00:39:01,686 --> 00:39:03,732
but they go on kill missions.
759
00:39:05,603 --> 00:39:07,431
They were just
these ravenous beasts
760
00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:09,477
and tearing everybody
out the windows
761
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,956
and ripping everybody to shreds
762
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,567
and playing with their food
in a sense.
763
00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:18,573
I mean, that really--
764
00:39:18,616 --> 00:39:20,401
when they have
the overhead shot,
765
00:39:20,444 --> 00:39:25,449
it really just sets the tone
for how brutal these killers
766
00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:28,147
and vampires are
and how they will stop
767
00:39:28,191 --> 00:39:31,455
at nothing and they don't
abide by the normal rules.
768
00:39:31,499 --> 00:39:35,024
They're in their own sort of
timeline in cinematic history
769
00:39:35,067 --> 00:39:37,679
and it's brand-new.
770
00:39:37,722 --> 00:39:39,376
One of the most terrifying
771
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:40,614
spots in there is when they're
772
00:39:40,638 --> 00:39:43,424
about to eat this family, right?
773
00:39:43,467 --> 00:39:45,774
And I think they've
already impaled the husband.
774
00:39:49,255 --> 00:39:52,737
And they're about to eat
the wife and suck her dry
775
00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:54,130
and just devour her.
776
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:59,962
Danny Huston's character
777
00:40:00,005 --> 00:40:01,529
takes his claw, his talon,
778
00:40:01,572 --> 00:40:03,661
and he starts playing
the record.
779
00:40:05,358 --> 00:40:07,056
Whatever beautiful thing
780
00:40:07,099 --> 00:40:10,755
was on that LP has now turned
into a horrible nocturn.
781
00:40:12,627 --> 00:40:14,667
It's, like, the last thing
this woman is gonna hear.
782
00:40:15,673 --> 00:40:17,762
And the one line
that perfectly sums up
783
00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:21,549
the killing spree is when
Danny says to his victim--
784
00:40:21,592 --> 00:40:23,551
Die!
785
00:40:47,792 --> 00:40:50,055
One of the most perfect
moments in horror,
786
00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:52,014
one of the most
well-constructed scenes
787
00:40:52,057 --> 00:40:54,712
is when Clarice Starling,
played by Jamie Foster,
788
00:40:54,756 --> 00:40:57,715
is following a lead in these
horrific serial killings.
789
00:41:03,765 --> 00:41:06,768
It just sets us up from the
beginning in a beautiful way
790
00:41:06,811 --> 00:41:09,205
of, like, between expectation
and what's really happening.
791
00:41:11,424 --> 00:41:14,993
We see the killer
is Buffalo Bill
792
00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:20,825
and he's, like, working
on his little moth collection,
793
00:41:20,869 --> 00:41:24,742
and it's crosscutting
with the FBI.
794
00:41:24,786 --> 00:41:26,483
A whole SWAT team is converging
795
00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:29,225
on this one house.
796
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,838
But then the bell rings
and he looks up,
797
00:41:33,882 --> 00:41:37,842
and you think it's going to be
the FBI descending on him.
798
00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:39,104
FBI! Everybody down!
799
00:41:39,148 --> 00:41:40,628
Down, down, down!
800
00:41:40,671 --> 00:41:42,978
There's no one here, Jack.
801
00:41:43,021 --> 00:41:44,370
Clarice.
- And, in fact,
802
00:41:44,414 --> 00:41:45,589
they're in the wrong house.
803
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:49,680
Good afternoon.
Um, sorry to bother you.
804
00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:51,029
Instead, the person at the door
805
00:41:51,073 --> 00:41:54,859
is Clarice Starling, all alone.
806
00:41:54,903 --> 00:41:57,166
Jodie Foster is five feet tall
807
00:41:57,209 --> 00:42:00,473
and 80 pounds soaking wet.
808
00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:05,609
She sells it
as this hard-nosed FBI agent.
809
00:42:05,653 --> 00:42:07,785
She sells the shit out of it.
810
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:09,787
I believe her entirely.
811
00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:11,180
I believe she's tough as nails.
812
00:42:11,223 --> 00:42:13,399
I believe
she could take anybody on
813
00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:15,619
because of what she--
her life force
814
00:42:15,663 --> 00:42:16,925
that she brings to it.
815
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,014
And what-- what's the problem,
officer?
816
00:42:19,057 --> 00:42:20,189
My God,
817
00:42:20,232 --> 00:42:22,495
Ted Levine is brilliant.
818
00:42:24,323 --> 00:42:27,849
He chose a personality
disorder of some kind,
819
00:42:27,892 --> 00:42:29,807
and the way he fleshed it out,
820
00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:33,376
every detail is so well-crafted.
821
00:42:33,419 --> 00:42:36,205
Like even when she says,
"Did you know this girl?"
822
00:42:36,248 --> 00:42:37,815
Did you know her?
823
00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:39,600
Was she a great big fat person?
824
00:42:39,643 --> 00:42:41,123
You realize, like, yeah,
825
00:42:41,166 --> 00:42:43,778
something is wrong
with this person.
826
00:42:46,345 --> 00:42:50,349
And she knows that this guy
is Buffalo Bill.
827
00:42:50,393 --> 00:42:53,004
And you can see
that he knows he's busted.
828
00:42:53,048 --> 00:42:55,441
Freeze!
829
00:42:55,485 --> 00:42:57,922
Put your hands over your head
and turn around!
830
00:42:57,966 --> 00:43:00,185
Spread your legs!
- And he looks so helpless
831
00:43:00,229 --> 00:43:01,317
when that happens.
832
00:43:04,189 --> 00:43:06,104
And then it turns
into that extended chase
833
00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:07,323
in the basement.
834
00:43:10,195 --> 00:43:11,240
There's a song playing.
835
00:43:11,283 --> 00:43:12,981
It's by a band called The Fall
836
00:43:13,024 --> 00:43:16,332
and it's echoing through
this brick chamber
837
00:43:16,375 --> 00:43:19,640
as she's going down and down
and looking for him
838
00:43:19,683 --> 00:43:21,119
and busting in through doors.
839
00:43:23,121 --> 00:43:25,341
And finally
she sees his workshop,
840
00:43:25,384 --> 00:43:27,038
which is filled with skins.
841
00:43:27,082 --> 00:43:29,432
He's got half of his girl suit
that he's been building.
842
00:43:30,738 --> 00:43:32,565
She busts into a bathroom
843
00:43:32,609 --> 00:43:36,265
and there's a rotting corpse
in the bathtub.
844
00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:39,311
It goes dark
845
00:43:39,355 --> 00:43:41,009
and it's totally black.
846
00:43:42,663 --> 00:43:44,577
And then you hear
this little whining
847
00:43:44,621 --> 00:43:47,363
of the night vision goggles
going on.
848
00:43:50,192 --> 00:43:53,282
He's got these infrared
goggles on and he can see her.
849
00:43:53,325 --> 00:43:57,025
He becomes-- he becomes almost
like this cyclopean monster
850
00:43:57,068 --> 00:43:58,417
because she can't see him.
851
00:43:58,461 --> 00:44:00,028
It's totally dark,
852
00:44:00,071 --> 00:44:02,334
and he's just toying with her.
853
00:44:02,378 --> 00:44:04,423
He's, like, right behind her.
854
00:44:07,339 --> 00:44:09,211
This is why people
are afraid of the dark.
855
00:44:09,254 --> 00:44:10,734
That's why.
856
00:44:10,778 --> 00:44:12,518
'Cause you don't-- you can't--
857
00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:14,738
something can see you,
but you can't see it.
858
00:44:14,782 --> 00:44:17,828
That is the whole reason
why we fear the dark
859
00:44:17,872 --> 00:44:20,352
and have since the time
of cavemen.
860
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:24,922
And through this whole track,
861
00:44:24,966 --> 00:44:26,881
she's struggling
to control her breathing
862
00:44:26,924 --> 00:44:28,534
and it's really loud.
863
00:44:28,578 --> 00:44:30,536
It's really up there in the mix
864
00:44:30,580 --> 00:44:32,060
and it just increases
the intention.
865
00:44:34,149 --> 00:44:35,989
And it's just when he starts
to cock the gun,
866
00:44:36,020 --> 00:44:38,370
that was the dead giveaway.
867
00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,896
Just that click,
868
00:44:41,939 --> 00:44:44,072
that's what makes her turn
around and blow him away.
869
00:44:53,908 --> 00:44:56,649
You're the hunter,
then you become the prey,
870
00:44:56,693 --> 00:44:58,477
and you're able to reverse it.
871
00:45:00,523 --> 00:45:02,133
Fantastic scene.
872
00:45:20,195 --> 00:45:24,025
"Suspiria" bombards you
with every filmic element
873
00:45:24,068 --> 00:45:25,940
to the point
where you are well-aware
874
00:45:25,983 --> 00:45:28,116
that you're watching
an artifice.
875
00:45:30,683 --> 00:45:32,033
And there's something
so beautiful
876
00:45:32,076 --> 00:45:34,122
and terrifying about that.
877
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,824
And even
the whole opening sequence,
878
00:45:40,868 --> 00:45:42,260
the first murder...
879
00:45:43,653 --> 00:45:45,089
Who was that who's stabbing her?
880
00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:49,267
And for heart to be so exposed
and then stabbing right
881
00:45:49,311 --> 00:45:51,008
into the heart with the blade...
882
00:45:52,749 --> 00:45:55,317
Those are nightmare images
that are unrealistic.
883
00:45:58,537 --> 00:46:00,452
They're there
to just, like, shock you.
884
00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:03,368
The whole color scheme
of the movie
885
00:46:03,412 --> 00:46:05,544
reflecting emotionally
what's going on.
886
00:46:08,286 --> 00:46:11,550
Dario is a master of color.
887
00:46:11,594 --> 00:46:15,163
He would not usually use
calm colors.
888
00:46:18,644 --> 00:46:20,908
The reds are really red
and bloodlike.
889
00:46:22,779 --> 00:46:26,000
Blue would be used when
it was in contrast to red.
890
00:46:28,611 --> 00:46:30,656
Green was more likely to be used
891
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:33,137
because it has a harsher feel,
892
00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:35,183
a less calming feel
than blue does.
893
00:46:38,577 --> 00:46:43,104
So his color palette itself
is incredibly passionate.
894
00:46:43,147 --> 00:46:45,062
Susie, wake up.
895
00:46:45,106 --> 00:46:47,673
Please, Susie, wake up!
896
00:46:47,717 --> 00:46:50,589
The scene in "Suspiria"
where Sara is, you know,
897
00:46:50,633 --> 00:46:52,233
trying to wake Susie up,
but she can't...
898
00:46:54,419 --> 00:46:56,595
And then she goes wandering
around the halls
899
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:58,679
all alone like one should
never do in a horror film.
900
00:47:02,775 --> 00:47:05,213
She's sneaking around
the ballet academy
901
00:47:05,256 --> 00:47:07,432
trying to find this missing
set of notes,
902
00:47:07,476 --> 00:47:09,260
and all of a sudden,
she feels like something
903
00:47:09,304 --> 00:47:11,088
is pursuing her.
904
00:47:20,881 --> 00:47:23,187
And so she locks herself
905
00:47:23,231 --> 00:47:26,799
in the room, and we see this,
like, letter opener trying
906
00:47:26,843 --> 00:47:29,324
to jimmy the lock of the room
that she's in
907
00:47:29,367 --> 00:47:32,022
for an eternally long time,
908
00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:36,070
to the point where you're just
like, "Just up. Just lift up."
909
00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:40,335
She eventually,
after hiding in the corner,
910
00:47:40,378 --> 00:47:41,640
gets the bright idea,
911
00:47:41,684 --> 00:47:43,860
"Hey, there's a window up there.
912
00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:45,079
I'll just go through."
913
00:47:45,122 --> 00:47:46,602
So she kind of drags
a crate over,
914
00:47:46,645 --> 00:47:48,604
hoists herself through
the window,
915
00:47:48,647 --> 00:47:50,911
not really paying a lot
of attention
916
00:47:50,954 --> 00:47:53,130
to what's on the other side
of this window.
917
00:47:56,481 --> 00:47:58,068
And what happens
to be on the other side
918
00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,269
is the academy's room
of razor wire.
919
00:48:01,312 --> 00:48:03,793
Like you have
in all ballet academies,
920
00:48:03,836 --> 00:48:05,076
they have a room of razor wire.
921
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:10,060
Who just jumps into barbed wire?
922
00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:11,975
Like, it's the last thing
you're expecting.
923
00:48:14,064 --> 00:48:15,674
And Argento does that.
924
00:48:15,718 --> 00:48:18,329
I think Argento has a really
good way of creating things
925
00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:19,722
that are, like,
really outlandish,
926
00:48:19,765 --> 00:48:21,506
but you buy them
in the universes
927
00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:23,247
that he creates.
928
00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:27,730
Although Argento had removed
the barbing from the wire,
929
00:48:27,773 --> 00:48:29,906
it was pretty painful
for the actress she said later.
930
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:32,256
She said it was like being bit
by thousands of ants
931
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,780
all at once.
932
00:48:34,824 --> 00:48:37,740
And I think the sense
of discomfort and confusion
933
00:48:37,783 --> 00:48:39,655
is coming
from a very real place.
934
00:48:44,225 --> 00:48:46,183
It's so absurd, but it's part
935
00:48:46,227 --> 00:48:48,794
of the heightened kind
of fairy tale.
936
00:48:48,838 --> 00:48:49,926
She's trying to get up,
937
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:51,362
but she keeps falling back
into it.
938
00:48:53,408 --> 00:48:54,472
And the hand comes out
with the razor blade
939
00:48:54,496 --> 00:48:57,064
and, like, slits her throat.
940
00:48:58,630 --> 00:49:01,546
And, of course, in true
Argento "Giallo" fashion,
941
00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:03,853
the whole scene ends
with a push-in
942
00:49:03,896 --> 00:49:07,030
on her scared eye as she dies.
943
00:49:08,336 --> 00:49:10,077
It doesn't make sense here,
944
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,600
but it makes sense here.
945
00:49:14,255 --> 00:49:16,735
It makes emotional sense
because it works.
946
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:21,740
It's so unexpected
and so out of nowhere,
947
00:49:21,784 --> 00:49:24,482
that you just-- you know,
it's terrifying.
948
00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:27,964
I think that's why
I love horror films
949
00:49:28,008 --> 00:49:30,401
'cause the best ones
are surrealist cinema.
950
00:49:35,841 --> 00:49:38,975
And surrealist cinema allows
us to look at our dreams
951
00:49:39,019 --> 00:49:40,977
and explore our dreams
and live our dreams
952
00:49:41,021 --> 00:49:43,632
in a safe place.
953
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:47,810
We can maybe look at 'em
again and again
954
00:49:47,853 --> 00:49:49,812
and again and again
and maybe start to figure out
955
00:49:49,855 --> 00:49:51,379
what really is going on here.
70912
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