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A lot of films,
in particular horror films,
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have those watercooler moments
that people talk about.
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And that sort of spreads
the mythology about the movie.
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If you haven't seen it,
you have to go see it,
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and if you did see it,
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you have a very,
very strong opinion about it.
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And that opinion
is either shared
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with other fellow
horror nerds...
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This is standard
horror movie stuff.
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Or disputed by people
who maybe don't love horror
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or just don't agree.
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So it becomes
this hotbed of debate.
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Either you're friends for life
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because you love
the "Scanners" exploding head,
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or you're all of a sudden
at arms with a friend
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because they thought
it was too gross.
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And then you're just,
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"What are you talking about?
That's impossible."
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โช To take the dank
out of the baggie, I got... โช
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โช Five on it
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From the trailer, I thought
"Us" was going to be
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a Black version of that movie
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I personally have seen
many times before.
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A family is on vacation.
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Ha-ha!
- He's kidding, right?
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He's not kidding.
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They're isolated.
Something bad happens.
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And it is the family
on vacation movie,
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but it's also plus so much more.
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The scene that
always hits me the hardest
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also is my worst fear:
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home invasion.
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There's a family
in our driveway.
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Who is that?
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That moment when they look
out into the driveway,
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and they see four people
standing there,
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and it is so well shot
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'cause they're coming
from the POV of the window,
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and they're all backlit,
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and you don't exactly see
what they are.
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It's vague,
but at the same time,
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you see the terror
on the mom's face...
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Hey, hey, hey, hey.
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As she realizes that
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they're in this isolated,
rural environment.
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If there are four people
in their driveway,
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they are not there for good.
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You have these great moments
of family survival horror.
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Everything's gonna be fine.
Calm down, okay?
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And I love this about "Us."
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Zora, the older daughter,
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when the father says to Jason...
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Jason, give me the bat.
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And Jason, clueless, is like...
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What bat?
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Zora has already run
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and grabbed the bat
and brought it back.
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There's one in the--
- Here, here.
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Thank you.
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She's definitely the one
I want on
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my zombie apocalypse team.
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Gabe!
- I got this, I got this.
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Jordan Peele, obviously,
he gets the terror,
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along with the levity,
and, like, better than anyone.
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Now, I thought
I already done told y'all
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to get off my property, okay?
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So if y'all want to get crazy,
we can get crazy!
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Hey, hey, hey, hey!
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And it always makes me think,
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if four people were standing
in my driveway
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and absolutely determined
to get in my house, could they?
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And I think most of us
are gonna answer,
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"Probably."
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We feel safe, but my God,
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we are so vulnerable.
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Please, please, please!
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Stop right--
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I had the chance
to talk to Jordan Peele,
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who's visited my UCLA class
many times,
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and he's talked about sort of
the genesis also for "Us,"
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which is this idea of,
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what would happen if you
walked into a train platform
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and you saw someone
who looked just like you
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across the platform?
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And it turned into "Us,"
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this idea of not just
one doppelganger,
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but an entire family
of doppelgangers.
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It's us.
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The one thing that is scary
about doppelgangers--
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we all know that there are
two sides to ourselves.
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With "Us," they brought that
to the front and center as to:
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This is what life is.
This is what life can be.
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This is the life
you have right now.
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Is it yours?
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And is it something
that you deserve,
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or is it something that,
you know,
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just happened to you
by pure circumstance?
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And what happens
if that changes?
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Don't look.
- Is he dead?
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Don't look.
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That is one of the biggest
surprises in "Us,"
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is that it starts out
as a family vacation movie,
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but it really ends up
making you wonder
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about your own privilege,
and what you're doing with it,
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and what
you're not doing with it,
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and how unjust that is.
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It's our time now.
Our time up there.
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Baa, baa, baa, baa, baa.
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The setup to "The Witch"
is that a family of pilgrims,
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who are too religious
for the religious community
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that they're in,
strike out on their own
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and go and sort of set up
in the middle of nowhere
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in the woods,
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and then are beset upon
by a witch or witches.
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Robert Eggers really wanted
to tell a folktale-style story
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about a witch in pioneer time
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and have everything be
exactly historically perfect,
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including the words they say,
and the clothes they wear,
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and the lighting that they use.
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One shot that I always think
about in that movie,
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which is just a perfectly
executed spooky moment,
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is when Caleb is being drawn
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to the house in the woods
by a beautiful woman.
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And then when
the camera pans around,
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the hand that actually touches
him is an old crone's hand.
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And that is like
a 21st century version
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of moments in Hammer movies.
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Like, "Captain Kronos:
Vampire Hunter"
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has a sequence like that,
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where a beautiful woman
suddenly becomes an old crone.
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"Crone" is such an ugly word,
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don't you think?
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Such an ugly thing to be.
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No, I don't think
I shall ever be one.
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In a Hammer movie,
the scariest thing possible
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is the ravages of time.
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Something a bit cruel
about that.
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Cruel but effective,
and "The Witch," I think,
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sort of does a much more
elegant version of that shot.
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"Zombi 2" is so unhinged.
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They're coming back to life.
They're everywhere.
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This is Lucio Fulci at his best.
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The one scene of "Zombi"
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that everyone will always
remember is the eyeball scene,
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where a woman is being pursued
by a zombie,
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and she locks herself
inside a room.
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And then she's kind of, like,
you know, waiting at the door,
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waiting for the zombie.
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The zombie breaks his way
through the door,
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leaving
all this splintered wood,
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grabs her head,
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and then painstakingly slowly
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brings it towards
this massive shard of wood
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that is sticking out.
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Why would a zombie do that?
I don't know.
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You know, you never see zombies
really being that creative
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in other zombie movies,
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but this was a creative zombie
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that really saw
an opportunity and took it.
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A lot of it
is shot from her POV.
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It goes back and forth
in kind of a crosscut,
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where we're looking at her
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as she's screaming
up at the zombie
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with the shard getting closer.
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And then slowly,
the shard comes into focus,
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and everything else
goes out of focus.
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And then we go to the side shot,
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as we realize
how close they're going.
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The anticipation is
really beautiful and morbid,
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and you almost-- you kind
of want her to get away,
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but you kind of
want her eye to pop.
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And you're not sure up until,
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like, the last minute,
what's gonna happen.
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You know, you're not sure
if she's actually gonna get--
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maybe she'll get away,
but I really hope her eye pops.
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And it does.
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When the shard actually goes in,
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we see it in full
penetrative grossness.
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It's gonna get really graphic
because it's Lucio Fulci,
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so it's not just gonna intimate
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that it's stabbing you
in the eye.
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He's gonna stab that person
in the eye,
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and you're gonna watch
every beautiful frame of it.
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And I think that's what
makes it so iconic
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because he does not pull back
from just giving it to you.
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This scene is so terrifying,
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and it is because
it's an eyeball.
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Fulci knows what will
really push audiences,
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and the answer is eyeballs,
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teeth...
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And fingernails.
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Because those are things
that we embody with.
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If that zombie had lunged
at her neck...
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I would have been like,
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"Cool, zombie's
ripping her neck apart."
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But I have no idea
how that feels.
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But the idea of us being poked
in the eyeball with something,
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most of us
will immediately cringe
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because at some point,
we have felt that pain.
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We know what it's like
to get poked in the eyeball,
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so we're very sensitive.
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"The Changeling" opens
with a horrible accident,
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where a man sees
his wife and child
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get run over by a truck.
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He's a music professor.
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He moves to a big house...
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When was the house
last occupied?
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Let's see.
About 12 years ago.
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Trying to get away
from everything
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and restart his life somehow.
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There we go.
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And the house is
increasingly giving him signs
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that there might be
something in there
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that's a sign of
some kind of afterlife.
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That house is not fit
to live in.
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It doesn't want people.
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So he has this toy that used
to belong to his daughter.
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Um, that was Kathy's,
my daughter's.
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And it's moved a few times
around the house,
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and he doesn't
really understand it,
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and at this point-- I think
later on, he will understand
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that there's a child
playing in that house,
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that there's the spirit of
a child that's trapped there,
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but at this point,
he doesn't know anything yet.
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And he eventually decides to go
throw the ball in the river
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because he's just tired
of its antics.
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I understood the grief
that he was going through
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in order to throw the ball away
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and into the river,
and just to be gone with it.
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Sometimes you need
that one talisman
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that you need to get rid of,
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that reminds you
of the pain and suffering
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that is losing a child,
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and knowing that,
"I need to let this go
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and have it never come back."
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And then, your one biggest fear,
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your one biggest life regret
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comes just gently bouncing down.
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You know at that moment
this is inescapable.
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When someone who looks
like George C. Scott,
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who looks like he doesn't have
anything to fear in the world,
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because he has experience,
because he has knowledge,
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because he has strength,
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because he's not
a scared little girl,
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has those moments
of complete terror.
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And I think that's
really what sells
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the moment with the red ball.
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And every time
there's a scare in this movie,
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what sells it is his expression.
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There's nothing outward.
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There's just those eyes
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and the fact
that he's paralyzed.
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And when you get really scared,
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that's very often what happens.
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You can't move.
You just look at it.
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And this movie captures
that so well.
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Damn son of a bitch.
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What is it you want?
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What do you want from me?
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I've done everything I can do!
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There's nothing more to do.
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With "Phantom of the Opera,"
the 1925 version,
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he is closer to
a straight villain
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than any other telling
that we've seen.
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But still very sympathetic.
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This is a character
who has never experienced love,
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and yet he is completely,
to his mind,
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in love with this woman.
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The relationship with Christine
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is so endlessly
interesting to me
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because it's so abusive
and so terrible,
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but in the most
heart-wrenching ways.
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When he brings her
down to his lair,
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he's playing the organ.
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He's working on the opera
"Don Juan Triumphant,"
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which is, for him, about her--
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about him finally
receiving the love
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that he has been
hungry for forever.
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And there's this moment
in the scene
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where she reaches to him,
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and you see him
kind of lean into it
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like he's receiving tenderness.
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And then she tears
the mask away.
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The first time you see
his face, fully revealed,
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lit, like,
that's the mask of death.
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You'll never scrub that
from your brain.
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And I would kill to be able
to have sat in a cinema in 1925
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and been amongst
a crowd of people
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who had never seen anything
like that in their lives.
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The screams
that must have erupted
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in the aisles of the theaters.
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My mother saw that movie
in the theater.
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And she said people fainted.
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You know, here's this gentle guy
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wearing a flimsy mask
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with lace underneath it
and stuff.
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Then when the mask comes off,
he's this living skull.
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The horror is meant to be,
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like, the horror
of his disfigurement.
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But that's not really
what the horror is here.
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It's her.
It's Christine.
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It's what she has done to him
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and what she has taken from him
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because of what
the mask represents to him.
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To him, it's freedom.
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To him, it's the possibility
of being seen
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as something more
than his disability.
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The film is ultimately
really raising that question
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of what constitutes monstrosity,
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the same way
that "Frankenstein" is.
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Who is the real monster here?
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Stop!
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"The Brood," man.
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I'm not saying it's the reason
I got a vasectomy,
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but I'm not saying it's not.
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Oliver Reed plays
this psychologist
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who's written a book on
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0the physical expressions
of rage,
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and how rage can
express itself on the body.
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Show me your anger, show me!
Then I can understand it.
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Wow.
The man is a genius.
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And Samantha Eggar's character,
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her rage is contained
in her mind,
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but it's expressed through
these tiny little children
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who become murderous
expressions of her rage.
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Cronenberg has said publicly--
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he's also told me
when we were working together--
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that it was
a very personal film,
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it was about divorce,
and I can see that.
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You shouldn't say how much
you hate me,
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and you're gonna stop!
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It really is an emotional film,
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which is something
that a lot of his movies
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kind of keep at a distance.
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The final scene in "The Brood,"
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where we reveal the brood,
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and Samantha Eggar
kind of lifts her gown...
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Look.
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Is truly gross and disgusting.
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First of all,
she's got these, like--
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look like potato sprouts on her
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that will grow
into these egg sacs.
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We can get disgusted,
but if Frank gets disgusted,
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he's gonna offend Nola, the ex.
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And if she gets offended,
she's gonna get angry.
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And Oliver Reed's
down in the bunkhouse,
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you know, trying to get Candice.
348
00:19:05,491 --> 00:19:08,407
You know, it's just, this room
of bunk beds of brood.
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It's like the worse camp
in the world.
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They're just, like,
you know, the worst.
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And this parallel
action's going.
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It's just so effective.
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"The Brood" is interesting,
because it forces men
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in particular to confront
the realities of pregnancy
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and what it is
women have to go through.
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And we do not understand
what it's like
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to grow something inside of us
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and then to try to get
that thing outside of our body.
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And it's amazing,
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but it's also--
it's true body horror.
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And "The Brood" just takes that
and rubs your face in it.
362
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Just seeing the scene
where she holds up a baby
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after the sac has been opened,
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and here it is,
covered with fetal blood,
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and she licks it clean.
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She is basically doing
the most natural thing
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for her in the moment.
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It might be disgusting,
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but it was a very natural thing
for her.
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And he is just there,
to the point where,
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at one point, he, like--
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God, Nola.
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And she realizes that
he is just appalled by her.
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No. I disgust you.
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She offers up her baby,
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and when the reaction
is disgust,
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she says,
with a great deal of shock,
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"I disgust you."
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And it's just a moment, like,
"Yeah, you do!"
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From her perspective,
it's beautiful,
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and it's a part of her,
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and it's something
that is of her body.
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The mind-body dualism
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that Cronenberg
deals with thematically
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in almost all
of his horror films
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is really wonderful, and unique,
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00:20:43,763 --> 00:20:47,332
and iconic specifically
to David Cronenberg.
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Cronenberg just says,
"You can repress all you want.
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It will come out
in some unpleasant ways."
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00:20:57,081 --> 00:21:00,171
They're doing what
you want them to do!
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I think some
of the most exciting cinema
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00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:15,012
of the last 20 years
is coming out of Korea.
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"A Tale of Two Sisters"
appeared to be
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another one of those kind of
long-haired ghost films,
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but it proved to be something
way more inventive
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than anyone was expecting.
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"A Tale of Two Sisters"
is about a young woman
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who gets out of an institution,
an asylum,
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and she returns home
to her family,
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where she is now
with her sister,
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their father,
and their new stepmom.
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00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,737
And as she's adjusting
to this life,
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00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:47,174
the stepmom is exhibiting
sort of wicked behavior,
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00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:48,785
classically wicked behavior.
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00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:57,750
There seems to be a haunting
in the home surrounding them.
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00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:03,756
And so there's
a lot of psychological,
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00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,410
familial horror going on,
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00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,673
but also a supernatural element
that this is,
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00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,414
in some ways,
a classic ghost story.
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Something is wrong, and you
just don't know with who.
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It's set inside
this very domestic setting,
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inside the house.
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And so, these places where
you think should be safe...
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Like your bedroom, your hallway,
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00:22:27,693 --> 00:22:30,479
suddenly become very sinister.
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00:22:30,522 --> 00:22:36,136
What we have is
a dinner scene where
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our characters'
stepmother and father
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are having lunch with
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the stepmother's brother
and his wife.
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00:22:44,928 --> 00:22:46,886
And she's going on and on
about these stories.
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00:22:57,244 --> 00:23:01,335
It also uses that ploy
that is so brilliant,
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00:23:01,379 --> 00:23:04,077
where you get embroiled
in a domestic argument,
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00:23:04,121 --> 00:23:05,383
a dinner table scene,
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00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:07,864
which is universal
and relatable.
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00:23:07,907 --> 00:23:10,127
But then it is
suddenly escalated
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by something really,
genuinely shocking.
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The brother's wife
has this seizure.
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00:23:22,922 --> 00:23:25,185
We don't know what kind
of medical condition she has.
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00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,318
We don't know much
about her character at all.
430
00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:34,456
But after she recovers,
431
00:23:34,499 --> 00:23:35,859
she's driving away,
and she says...
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You see this horrible face
kind of staring at you
433
00:23:42,681 --> 00:23:43,745
from where you don't expect,
underneath--
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00:23:43,769 --> 00:23:45,249
you know,
against the kitchen floor.
435
00:23:45,292 --> 00:23:47,207
That's the big jolt,
where you don't see it,
436
00:23:47,251 --> 00:23:49,471
coming out of nowhere.
437
00:23:49,514 --> 00:23:52,212
Later, the stepmother
is in the kitchen,
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00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:55,564
and she bends down
to look underneath the sink.
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00:24:08,272 --> 00:24:10,666
And as she does,
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00:24:10,709 --> 00:24:13,016
we're presented,
in the background,
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00:24:13,059 --> 00:24:15,061
with a girl in a green dress
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00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:18,195
seated at the table
with her head down.
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00:24:18,238 --> 00:24:21,024
There's no sting.
There's no crash zoom.
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00:24:21,067 --> 00:24:24,114
There's no startling sound.
It is silent.
445
00:24:24,157 --> 00:24:29,119
And by the time you absorb
it visually, they cut away.
446
00:24:29,162 --> 00:24:33,253
It is so masterfully done
that you tense up.
447
00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,647
Every muscle in your body
kind of seizes.
448
00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,954
And it was one
of the first times,
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00:24:37,997 --> 00:24:41,653
as an adult who'd spent
so much of his life
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00:24:41,697 --> 00:24:43,873
in this genre
and watching things,
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00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:47,877
that I started
to watch the film like this.
452
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,749
I was so swept up
by the dread of it all.
453
00:25:05,721 --> 00:25:08,158
I think that
the kitchen jump scare
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00:25:08,201 --> 00:25:09,551
in "A Tale of Two Sisters"
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00:25:09,594 --> 00:25:11,224
is maybe one of the great
jump scares of all time.
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00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:12,728
It's a very classical scare,
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00:25:12,771 --> 00:25:14,512
a very classical piece
of anticipation,
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00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:17,167
and, you know,
searching under and looking.
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00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:20,431
And when that hand comes out,
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00:25:20,474 --> 00:25:21,887
it's one of those great moments
of, like,
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00:25:21,911 --> 00:25:23,826
the old tricks still work.
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00:25:23,869 --> 00:25:25,871
Like, you know,
traditional horror filmmaking
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00:25:25,915 --> 00:25:27,795
can really still get you.
It's great. I love it.
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00:25:45,064 --> 00:25:47,850
It's the movie!
465
00:25:47,893 --> 00:25:49,591
The movie's to blame
for all this.
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00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:51,941
"Demons" was Lamberto Bava's
really big breakthrough.
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00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,551
It's still his biggest film
by far.
468
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,379
It was a huge release
all around the world.
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00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:58,643
Very popular.
Has almost no plot whatsoever,
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00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:00,906
which, in this case,
kind of became an advantage
471
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:03,561
because, you know, even the
dubbing didn't really matter.
472
00:26:03,605 --> 00:26:05,476
What are they after?
473
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:07,478
I don't know, Baby Pig.
You ask them.
474
00:26:07,521 --> 00:26:10,176
It's us they want, asshole.
See you in hell!
475
00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:12,048
Guys, let's go!
476
00:26:12,091 --> 00:26:14,069
You can walk out and go get
a popcorn for five minutes.
477
00:26:14,093 --> 00:26:16,071
Doesn't really matter-- you can
walk back in, and you're good.
478
00:26:16,095 --> 00:26:18,794
"Demons" is just hip.
It's cool.
479
00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:23,015
It's got a liveliness to it.
480
00:26:23,059 --> 00:26:25,322
It's got a punk rock
attitude to it.
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00:26:28,455 --> 00:26:29,781
So the setup
for "Demons" is that
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00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:31,217
there's this sneak preview
for a horror film
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00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:32,982
that's being held
in Germany, Berlin.
484
00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:34,636
Are you sure you want
to cut class?
485
00:26:36,725 --> 00:26:38,746
And there's this big display
outside with a motorcycle
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00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:40,119
with a big steel mask,
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00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:42,469
ร la Mario Bava's
"Black Sunday."
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00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:46,299
Fantastic.
Absolutely fantastic.
489
00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:49,172
And then this woman gets
scratched by it on her face.
490
00:26:49,215 --> 00:26:51,914
What was that?
491
00:26:51,957 --> 00:26:53,742
Hey, you cut yourself.
- Shit.
492
00:26:53,785 --> 00:26:55,265
That'll teach you
to touch things.
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00:26:55,308 --> 00:26:56,962
She gets scratched by the mask
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00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:59,704
and goes into the bathroom,
and she starts to transform.
495
00:27:02,707 --> 00:27:06,711
And there's
this incredible sequence
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00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:10,628
where she's chasing
another audience member
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00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,369
and, like, scratches her.
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00:27:12,412 --> 00:27:13,718
Help!
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00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:14,956
The audience realizes
that something
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00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:16,112
has gone horribly wrong.
501
00:27:16,155 --> 00:27:17,548
They're watching the movie
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00:27:17,591 --> 00:27:18,656
where this woman's
getting attacked in a tent,
503
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,874
and she's screaming,
and, you know,
504
00:27:19,898 --> 00:27:22,161
there's this thing
running loose on screen.
505
00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:24,424
And, you know,
our main girl says...
506
00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,252
Hey, there's somebody
behind the screen.
507
00:27:26,296 --> 00:27:27,795
"There's something wrong.
I hear screaming."
508
00:27:27,819 --> 00:27:29,516
And the guy she's with says...
509
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,388
Come on, it's the Dolby system.
510
00:27:31,431 --> 00:27:33,738
I'm telling you,
those screams sound real!
511
00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:36,828
And the screen suddenly
just splits right open,
512
00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:38,395
and this infected girl
513
00:27:38,438 --> 00:27:39,764
just flies right
through the screen.
514
00:27:39,788 --> 00:27:41,441
What happened?
515
00:27:41,485 --> 00:27:44,140
Holy shit!
She's a friend of mine.
516
00:27:44,183 --> 00:27:48,971
Hey, baby, what happened?
Shit, baby, what happened?
517
00:27:49,014 --> 00:27:51,190
And her fingernails-- these
amazing practical effects.
518
00:27:51,234 --> 00:27:52,907
Her fingernails suddenly
just go like this,
519
00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:55,107
and cut into the wood
on the floor.
520
00:27:57,501 --> 00:27:58,937
Gunk is coming out of her mouth,
521
00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:01,157
and things are, like,
misshapen and bubbling.
522
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,117
And my favorite part--
well, after her teeth fall out
523
00:28:05,161 --> 00:28:07,121
because, you know,
you gotta grow in the new teeth
524
00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:09,208
'cause you can't be a demon
without new teeth.
525
00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:11,210
Her tongue sticks out,
526
00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:14,083
and it's, like, this weird,
spiral, long thing.
527
00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,563
Grotesque really
is the right word.
528
00:28:16,607 --> 00:28:19,088
What I love about it is that,
529
00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:21,960
when demon shit
starts to go down,
530
00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:23,788
they all stand around
and watch it.
531
00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:25,485
God, what's happening?
532
00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:30,012
Because we all know that's
what probably we would do.
533
00:28:30,055 --> 00:28:33,145
And if there were cell phones
back in the "Demons" days,
534
00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:35,254
people would be just sitting
there recording this poor woman
535
00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:37,106
turning into a demon
on the stage.
536
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:38,977
Get out!
Everybody, get away!
537
00:28:39,021 --> 00:28:40,718
Get out!
538
00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:42,807
What are you waiting for?
Run!
539
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:44,766
When the transformation
is complete,
540
00:28:44,809 --> 00:28:47,551
and she sort of,
like, tears her way
541
00:28:47,594 --> 00:28:51,642
through this
former audience member's neck,
542
00:28:51,685 --> 00:28:55,646
it again is calling back to
tearing through the screen.
543
00:28:55,689 --> 00:28:58,170
And so we get
these continuous layers,
544
00:28:58,214 --> 00:29:01,739
where the space between
fiction and reality
545
00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:03,132
is essentially blurring.
546
00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:06,135
It's too bloody of a movie.
- Ruth, shut up.
547
00:29:07,745 --> 00:29:11,183
And it just descends
into absolute mayhem.
548
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,059
Let's find the emergency exit!
549
00:29:21,063 --> 00:29:23,065
Smash everything!
550
00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:31,595
And I also like the fact
that it's not really explained
551
00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:33,336
what the film is,
where it came from,
552
00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:34,685
why it turns people into demons.
553
00:29:34,728 --> 00:29:35,947
Doesn't really matter.
554
00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:38,036
What matters is demons
555
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,778
turning people--
other people into demons
556
00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:42,998
and eventually breaking
out of the movie theater
557
00:29:43,041 --> 00:29:44,869
to turn the whole world
into demons.
558
00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,175
That movie is so much fun,
559
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:47,567
and that image of all the demons
560
00:29:47,611 --> 00:29:49,439
with the glowing eyes--
it seems silly,
561
00:29:49,482 --> 00:29:51,920
I'm sure, to another
generation of horror fan,
562
00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:56,011
but it worked so well
for me when I was a kid.
563
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:13,724
"Doctor Sleep" is
that sequel to "The Shining"
564
00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:15,682
that was well worth waiting for,
565
00:30:15,726 --> 00:30:18,207
revisiting Danny
as an older person...
566
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,255
Who comes across a young girl,
Abra,
567
00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:25,431
who also has that "shining,"
568
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:31,089
who is in the crosshairs
of this hunting cult family
569
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:35,528
of not vampires,
but kind of vampires.
570
00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:39,054
We are the True Knot,
and we endure.
571
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:43,928
When I read "Doctor Sleep,"
572
00:30:43,972 --> 00:30:45,930
there was one scene in the book
573
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,324
that was different than
everything else around it.
574
00:30:48,367 --> 00:30:52,415
And that was where the story
became an overt horror story.
575
00:30:52,458 --> 00:30:55,026
And that's in the murder
of Bradley Trevor,
576
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,917
the baseball boy,
at the hands of the True Knot.
577
00:30:56,941 --> 00:30:59,204
Just saw your game.
578
00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:01,206
You are ready for the majors.
579
00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,121
Well played.
- Thanks.
580
00:31:03,165 --> 00:31:05,471
It takes a group of antagonists
581
00:31:05,515 --> 00:31:06,951
who, up until that point...
582
00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,823
It's okay.
We're friends.
583
00:31:09,867 --> 00:31:10,868
You want to hop in.
584
00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,391
Are kind of cheeky,
585
00:31:12,435 --> 00:31:15,003
they're kind of funny.
586
00:31:15,046 --> 00:31:16,918
And then this scene happens,
587
00:31:16,961 --> 00:31:21,966
and you understand how it is
that these creatures exist,
588
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:26,362
and how they eat, and how they
have these elongated lives.
589
00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:29,321
And it's that they harvest
the life force
590
00:31:29,365 --> 00:31:32,542
of these kids
who have the shining,
591
00:31:32,585 --> 00:31:35,545
who have
these special abilities.
592
00:31:35,588 --> 00:31:37,982
What better way...
- No, please, let me go!
593
00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:39,984
To build up your main villain...
594
00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:42,030
I won't tell!
I won't tell, please!
595
00:31:42,073 --> 00:31:44,728
Than to show her commit
the most horrendous act
596
00:31:44,771 --> 00:31:46,556
that she could possibly commit?
597
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,210
It's just so utterly brutal.
598
00:31:48,253 --> 00:31:51,213
You don't see children murdered
on screen a lot like that.
599
00:31:51,256 --> 00:31:53,693
That's when you know that
a movie is really going there.
600
00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:55,521
The kid, he's, like,
"Are you gonna hurt me?"
601
00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,001
And Rose the Hat says...
602
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,829
Yes.
- No!
603
00:31:58,872 --> 00:32:00,396
"In fact, it makes it
better for us.
604
00:32:00,439 --> 00:32:01,879
So yeah,
we're gonna hurt you a lot."
605
00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:03,573
And before you know it,
he's screaming,
606
00:32:03,616 --> 00:32:05,749
and the steam is coming,
and their eyes are glowing.
607
00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:08,665
And it looks like this trippy,
like, orgy, almost.
608
00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:13,670
Jacob Tremblay
selling the shit out of it,
609
00:32:13,713 --> 00:32:16,760
doing such a great job,
being so believable,
610
00:32:16,803 --> 00:32:19,023
acting with no ego at all.
611
00:32:19,067 --> 00:32:21,069
It shakes you to your core
612
00:32:21,112 --> 00:32:23,245
because of the reaction
of this little boy.
613
00:32:23,288 --> 00:32:25,638
The more he's in pain,
the more they can feed off it.
614
00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:26,988
Again, you don't often see that,
615
00:32:27,031 --> 00:32:28,467
but you also don't often see
616
00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:30,643
the villains
actually enjoying that act.
617
00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:32,515
What really made it scary
was not just
618
00:32:32,558 --> 00:32:34,256
that he was being tortured
and murdered,
619
00:32:34,299 --> 00:32:37,911
but this was a ritual
that was just an everyday part
620
00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:40,305
of their existence.
This is how they feed.
621
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:44,440
This is just Tuesday
for them, you know?
622
00:32:44,483 --> 00:32:46,418
We designed the shots
to keep the explicit violence
623
00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:48,139
completely off screen.
624
00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:50,228
And ultimately, it didn't
make a difference at all
625
00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,317
because Jacob Tremblay
626
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:55,190
committed to
the performance so well
627
00:32:55,233 --> 00:33:01,152
that you don't need to see
the explicit violence.
628
00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:05,374
The pain and the anguish
on his face make it unbearable.
629
00:33:05,417 --> 00:33:08,029
Sometimes,
it's a matter of frames.
630
00:33:08,072 --> 00:33:10,074
Just lingering just
a little bit too long
631
00:33:10,118 --> 00:33:12,598
is the thing
that's gonna make you turn off.
632
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,296
I screened it for Stephen King.
633
00:33:14,339 --> 00:33:16,689
He loved the movie,
and his only comment was,
634
00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:19,040
"Boy, that baseball boy scene
635
00:33:19,083 --> 00:33:20,693
"goes on a little too long,
doesn't it?
636
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:22,086
That's a bit much."
637
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,001
It turned out
to be about the sound.
638
00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:28,962
It turned out
to be about Jacob's voice,
639
00:33:29,006 --> 00:33:33,097
and it turned out to be
about the sound of the knife
640
00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:37,493
and of the steam.
641
00:33:37,536 --> 00:33:39,799
We cut the scene down to,
I think, about a quarter
642
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,932
of what it originally was.
643
00:33:41,975 --> 00:33:44,369
And it remains the scene
where I would see people get up
644
00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:46,110
and walk out during screenings.
645
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:47,609
Our executives would get up
and walk out.
646
00:33:47,633 --> 00:33:49,896
My wife got up and walked out.
647
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,681
It's a devastating sequence.
648
00:33:51,724 --> 00:33:53,770
Damn, I thought he had
another few minutes in him.
649
00:33:57,513 --> 00:34:01,821
They will say that
I have shed innocent blood.
650
00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:06,217
What's blood for
if not for shedding?
651
00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:09,264
With my hook for a hand,
652
00:34:09,307 --> 00:34:13,746
I'll split you from your groin
to your gullet.
653
00:34:13,789 --> 00:34:15,661
As a kid, night after night,
654
00:34:15,704 --> 00:34:17,334
I would just assume,
if I opened up my eyes,
655
00:34:17,358 --> 00:34:19,448
I would see Candyman
hovering above me.
656
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:21,928
Just night after night,
and I would just be paralyzed.
657
00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:23,713
And I just wouldn't sleep.
658
00:34:23,756 --> 00:34:27,499
And I knew if I tried to turn
on my side to go back to sleep,
659
00:34:27,543 --> 00:34:29,129
my shoulder would touch him,
you know, just--
660
00:34:29,153 --> 00:34:30,414
and then that would be it.
661
00:34:30,459 --> 00:34:32,765
I would just get ripped
groin to gullet.
662
00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,333
The legend
first appeared in 1890.
663
00:34:35,376 --> 00:34:37,465
Candyman was the son of a slave.
664
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:39,294
He's chased by this mob,
665
00:34:39,336 --> 00:34:41,599
and they smear honey
all over his body
666
00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,340
from this nearby beehive.
667
00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:45,038
And then the bees
sting him to death.
668
00:34:45,082 --> 00:34:46,344
And supposedly, as he's dying,
669
00:34:46,387 --> 00:34:48,227
they kind of taunt him
as "Candyman, Candyman."
670
00:34:48,259 --> 00:34:50,566
They say his name five times,
and he dies.
671
00:34:50,608 --> 00:34:53,090
Poor Candyman.
672
00:34:53,134 --> 00:34:55,874
He's not just some monster.
673
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,095
He was a person.
674
00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:00,184
And there still
is a person there.
675
00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:04,014
And he really does reach out
to you delicately.
676
00:35:04,057 --> 00:35:05,842
And then he brutally kills you.
677
00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:10,194
He's unlike all
the other movie monsters
678
00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:13,241
because there's something
so real and also so beautiful.
679
00:35:13,284 --> 00:35:15,591
Do you believe in me?
680
00:35:15,634 --> 00:35:18,071
Tony Todd brought such
a depth to that character
681
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:19,682
and such a soulfulness
to that character
682
00:35:19,725 --> 00:35:21,249
that I think
a lot of other actors
683
00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:22,989
would have not done that.
684
00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:25,340
They would have just kind of
played him as evil or wicked.
685
00:35:25,383 --> 00:35:28,299
Her death will be a tale
to frighten children,
686
00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:31,302
to make lovers cling closer
in the rapture.
687
00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:32,999
And then Virginia Madsen,
688
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:35,219
that was a tour de force
performance for her as well.
689
00:35:38,744 --> 00:35:40,398
I think
the most significant scene
690
00:35:40,442 --> 00:35:42,095
is the first time you see him.
691
00:35:42,139 --> 00:35:43,445
It's in broad daylight.
692
00:35:43,488 --> 00:35:45,142
Virginia's character, Helen,
693
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:47,100
has already been
through the wringer.
694
00:35:47,144 --> 00:35:50,930
And as she searches for her car
in the middle of the afternoon,
695
00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:54,282
about 100 meters away
is this tall, elegant gentleman
696
00:35:54,325 --> 00:35:56,936
who's very gently
calling her name.
697
00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:00,157
"Helen, Helen."
698
00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:04,161
Yes?
- Helen.
699
00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,468
There is something
very scary about parking lots,
700
00:36:06,511 --> 00:36:08,209
first of all,
especially as a woman.
701
00:36:08,252 --> 00:36:09,534
You want to walk through
the parking lot
702
00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:11,168
with your keys ready like claws
703
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,778
in case someone bothers you.
704
00:36:12,822 --> 00:36:14,408
And this is definitely
someone bothering you.
705
00:36:14,432 --> 00:36:18,567
Helen, I came for you.
706
00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:21,700
But the fact that
he had this hold on her
707
00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:23,746
is part of
what makes it so scary.
708
00:36:23,789 --> 00:36:28,446
So she's not reacting the way
she should be reacting.
709
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:31,319
She's just
sort of under a spell,
710
00:36:31,362 --> 00:36:33,146
kind of like he's a vampire.
711
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:36,411
Be my victim.
712
00:36:36,454 --> 00:36:38,239
And that's when I'm like,
713
00:36:38,282 --> 00:36:41,677
"Boy,
we're in trouble now."
714
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,637
Bernard Rose, the director,
had a hypnotist on set,
715
00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:49,380
so whether it was actually
implied or not, who knows.
716
00:36:49,424 --> 00:36:54,255
But she was put under for
every scene that involved me.
717
00:36:54,298 --> 00:36:56,996
Forget about all the stabbing
the psychiatrist in the back.
718
00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,324
Who doesn't want
to do that to their shrink?
719
00:37:00,348 --> 00:37:02,524
But that moment of them meeting,
720
00:37:02,567 --> 00:37:04,308
I think, is iconic as hell.
721
00:37:04,352 --> 00:37:09,400
Clive Barker is so great
at coming up with scares
722
00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:12,925
that you're not used to.
723
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:14,318
They come from left field.
724
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:16,755
They come
from a different direction.
725
00:37:16,799 --> 00:37:18,931
But "Candyman," in particular,
726
00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:20,846
the scene that
most affected me--
727
00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:27,331
When Candyman, Tony Todd,
opens his mouth,
728
00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:29,333
and there are live bees.
729
00:37:29,377 --> 00:37:31,509
And that was for real.
That's not special effects.
730
00:37:31,553 --> 00:37:33,903
That was pre-digital.
You can tell.
731
00:37:33,946 --> 00:37:36,384
The veracity of that--
you know this is a guy
732
00:37:36,427 --> 00:37:39,865
with a mouth full of bees,
and that freaked me out.
733
00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:42,346
Listen, I got
my master's in theater, man,
734
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:44,261
and we were taught
to be fearless.
735
00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,481
And you approach every role
as if it's a thing
736
00:37:46,524 --> 00:37:48,700
that's just gonna be--
make that magic moment.
737
00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:50,615
And I knew that
when I read the script,
738
00:37:50,659 --> 00:37:52,225
nobody had ever done
that before,
739
00:37:52,269 --> 00:37:53,618
and nobody's done it since.
740
00:37:53,662 --> 00:37:55,620
It's freaky,
and it still feels freaky.
741
00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:59,189
I mean, I can feel them
humming around inside my mouth.
742
00:37:59,232 --> 00:38:00,669
It was crazy.
743
00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:03,193
But you gotta love this.
You gotta love it.
744
00:38:03,236 --> 00:38:05,282
If you don't love it,
walk the fuck away.
745
00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:16,772
What is that?
- A caper.
746
00:38:16,815 --> 00:38:18,556
It's a rat turd.
747
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,820
A what?
- A rat turd.
748
00:38:21,864 --> 00:38:26,390
A caper.
- If it's a caper, eat it.
749
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:29,393
"Invasion
of the Body Snatchers."
750
00:38:29,437 --> 00:38:31,526
I'm laughing now,
but I wasn't laughing
751
00:38:31,569 --> 00:38:35,399
when I was watching it
because you're surrounded
752
00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,141
by people who look like
the people you know...
753
00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:44,190
But they're not behaving the
way they should be behaving.
754
00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:48,151
My wife, sick.
- What's wrong with her?
755
00:38:48,194 --> 00:38:50,327
She wrong.
756
00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,590
And the idea that,
in the midst of investigating
757
00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:54,636
this phenomenon,
you get caught up in it...
758
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:57,465
Somehow today,
I felt everything had changed.
759
00:38:57,508 --> 00:38:58,596
People were different.
760
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,902
It's like there's some kind
761
00:38:59,945 --> 00:39:01,947
of a hallucinatory flu
going around.
762
00:39:01,991 --> 00:39:04,733
These alien creatures,
they're seed pods,
763
00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:06,517
but then they overtake
your body,
764
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,085
and they strip you
of your humanity,
765
00:39:09,128 --> 00:39:11,957
and they spread
from body to body to body.
766
00:39:13,785 --> 00:39:16,440
What's interesting
about this one is,
767
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,137
most horror movies,
768
00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:21,314
if they don't end happily,
they end satisfyingly,
769
00:39:21,358 --> 00:39:24,013
in a way where
you've vanquished the creature,
770
00:39:24,056 --> 00:39:27,233
you've come out the end
of a really rough struggle,
771
00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:28,757
and you come out,
and you're okay.
772
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,062
In this case,
773
00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:32,413
it's very cynical
and very bleak.
774
00:39:32,456 --> 00:39:34,023
Donald Sutherland,
775
00:39:34,066 --> 00:39:35,653
who you've been on
this journey with throughout,
776
00:39:35,677 --> 00:39:38,288
he's just a guy,
he's just a guy,
777
00:39:38,331 --> 00:39:39,942
and he's just trying
to hang on to life,
778
00:39:39,985 --> 00:39:41,223
and he's just trying to hang on
779
00:39:41,247 --> 00:39:42,553
to the people he cares about.
780
00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:44,163
It's just the brute
will to survive
781
00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:47,558
that's getting him through,
and he's lost everything.
782
00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:49,560
And you sort of fade out,
783
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:51,170
and you come back
in that ending,
784
00:39:51,214 --> 00:39:53,390
and what's amazing about it
is it's so inevitable,
785
00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,174
the way it goes,
786
00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:58,787
and yet you've been so primed
emotionally that you're like,
787
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,093
"I can see this guy.
I can see this guy doing this.
788
00:40:01,137 --> 00:40:03,182
"I can see him just faking it,
789
00:40:03,226 --> 00:40:06,359
to ride it out till he can
figure out a way out of this."
790
00:40:06,403 --> 00:40:08,971
And then Veronica Cartwright
shows up.
791
00:40:09,014 --> 00:40:11,190
Matthew.
792
00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:12,690
She's all sort of sweaty,
and anxious,
793
00:40:12,714 --> 00:40:14,498
and trying to keep cool.
794
00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:15,847
You're actually, for a while,
795
00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:17,980
worried that she's gonna
blow it for him...
796
00:40:21,636 --> 00:40:24,073
Which is incredible,
and then that moment.
797
00:40:26,597 --> 00:40:29,513
No, no!
798
00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:31,384
No!
799
00:40:31,428 --> 00:40:33,604
That moment would
shatter you no matter what.
800
00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:35,693
There's something
about Sutherland,
801
00:40:35,737 --> 00:40:37,826
that look and the finger point,
802
00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:41,220
and then starts
making that noise.
803
00:40:41,264 --> 00:40:43,396
It's just gut-wrenching.
804
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,835
I can close my eyes
and still see Donald Sutherland
805
00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,750
turn around, and open his mouth,
806
00:40:48,793 --> 00:40:51,274
and let out that horrible sound
807
00:40:51,317 --> 00:40:53,537
that made us recognize
he was gone.
808
00:40:53,581 --> 00:40:55,452
He's not the same guy.
809
00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:57,280
He's not our protagonist
anymore.
810
00:40:57,323 --> 00:40:58,890
He's lost.
811
00:40:58,934 --> 00:41:01,414
Because then,
if he's gone, we're all gone.
812
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,727
Hey Scotty, what's
this place like, anyway?
813
00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:12,556
Well, the guy that's renting
it says it's an old place.
814
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,123
A little run down,
815
00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:16,255
but it's right up
in the mountains.
816
00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:18,388
I saw the original
"Evil Dead."
817
00:41:18,431 --> 00:41:20,303
I'll never forget,
the poster said,
818
00:41:20,346 --> 00:41:23,001
"'The most ferociously
original horror film
819
00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:25,569
of the year, ' Stephen King."
820
00:41:25,613 --> 00:41:28,746
So I was like, well,
I gotta go see this movie.
821
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,574
If "Night of the Living Dead"
822
00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:34,056
is the beginning
of the zombie era,
823
00:41:34,099 --> 00:41:35,579
"The Evil Dead"
is the first movie
824
00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:38,887
to sort of domesticate it
825
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:41,846
and make it into a story
about young people
826
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,456
who go into the woods,
827
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:44,869
and they don't come
out of the woods.
828
00:41:44,893 --> 00:41:46,547
We've had a lot
of stories like that,
829
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:50,638
but this one
was especially brutal
830
00:41:50,681 --> 00:41:52,596
and well told.
831
00:41:55,686 --> 00:41:57,862
The location, the atmosphere,
832
00:41:57,906 --> 00:41:59,647
the crazy camera angles,
833
00:41:59,690 --> 00:42:02,475
where that thing
out of nothing is chasing you,
834
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:03,801
but it's just the camera--
I mean,
835
00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:05,391
that had never been done before,
836
00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:08,481
and the camera itself was used
as a tool for terror.
837
00:42:08,525 --> 00:42:11,136
And that was so exciting,
and something really new,
838
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:12,616
and something that they brought
839
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:15,488
to the genre with that.
840
00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:17,229
I mean, it terrified me
when I was young.
841
00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:18,579
It still-- like, now I can--
842
00:42:18,622 --> 00:42:20,015
there are parts
that I still laugh,
843
00:42:20,058 --> 00:42:21,906
but the scene where
she's predicting the cards...
844
00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:24,236
My God, seven of hearts!
You're right!
845
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,891
Hey, Ash,
I guessed the card right!
846
00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,763
Yeah, truly amazing.
847
00:42:28,806 --> 00:42:31,026
That whole sequence still
scares the shit out of me.
848
00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:32,636
It's a seven.
849
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,682
I think some
of the best horror scenes,
850
00:42:34,725 --> 00:42:36,181
at least the ones
you remember the most,
851
00:42:36,205 --> 00:42:37,641
they start in a good mood.
852
00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:39,817
Everybody's, like,
having a good time.
853
00:42:39,861 --> 00:42:42,820
So after you've been a little
bit oppressed by the movie,
854
00:42:42,864 --> 00:42:44,822
and you had a bunch
of suspenseful scenes,
855
00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:47,782
you're like,
"Finally I can relax."
856
00:42:47,825 --> 00:42:51,829
Four of hearts.
Eight of spades.
857
00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:53,851
And then Cheryl starts
saying-- guessing the cards.
858
00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:55,833
They look at each other.
859
00:42:55,877 --> 00:42:57,356
She finally-- bang!
860
00:43:00,751 --> 00:43:03,493
Why have you
disturbed our sleep?
861
00:43:03,536 --> 00:43:06,888
Awakened us
from our ancient slumber?
862
00:43:06,931 --> 00:43:10,805
I had never seen
a demon movie like that.
863
00:43:10,848 --> 00:43:12,850
That movie fucked me up.
864
00:43:12,894 --> 00:43:15,679
If we had to talk
about iconic scenes,
865
00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:17,376
the scene that I always remember
866
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:20,379
is the pencil
going through the ankle.
867
00:43:26,472 --> 00:43:28,910
It was real mind-blowing
also how much humor
868
00:43:28,953 --> 00:43:31,477
was contained in the violence.
869
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:39,877
And a lot of the violence
870
00:43:39,921 --> 00:43:42,924
was the one-man show
that is Bruce Campbell.
871
00:43:42,967 --> 00:43:44,316
You bastard.
872
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,189
Why are you torturing me
like this? Why?
873
00:43:47,232 --> 00:43:49,408
He's just the heart
and soul of that film,
874
00:43:49,452 --> 00:43:51,454
and you can see he threw himself
875
00:43:51,497 --> 00:43:53,761
literally into the part,
876
00:43:53,804 --> 00:43:57,634
you know, many times,
over and over again.
877
00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:01,159
You get a sense that
at no time on that set
878
00:44:01,203 --> 00:44:04,902
did anyone go, "I don't know,
it's a little too much."
879
00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:08,514
It's just pedal to the metal
all the way.
880
00:44:10,168 --> 00:44:12,127
No, God!
881
00:44:18,089 --> 00:44:22,093
When there is
no more room in hell,
882
00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:25,401
the dead will walk the earth.
883
00:44:25,444 --> 00:44:27,795
I'm not one of those fans
that hates remakes.
884
00:44:27,838 --> 00:44:30,238
I understand, because I worked
at a studio, why they do them.
885
00:44:30,275 --> 00:44:32,016
It's because they're
brand recognition.
886
00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:34,932
And with "Dawn of the Dead,"
I thought that Zack Snyder
887
00:44:34,976 --> 00:44:36,760
brought the fast zombies to life
888
00:44:36,804 --> 00:44:38,719
in a way that
I hadn't seen yet before.
889
00:44:38,762 --> 00:44:41,330
And it was that opening scene.
890
00:44:41,373 --> 00:44:42,984
You meet
Sarah Polley's character.
891
00:44:43,027 --> 00:44:44,725
Calm before the storm.
892
00:44:44,768 --> 00:44:48,337
Little hints that
there is something amiss.
893
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:49,904
Why did Dr. Cho
order a head X-ray
894
00:44:49,947 --> 00:44:51,427
when the man was bitten
on the hand?
895
00:44:53,821 --> 00:44:55,736
But then she goes home.
896
00:44:55,779 --> 00:44:57,738
You know, they have sexy times
in the shower,
897
00:44:57,781 --> 00:44:59,870
and they go to bed,
and then they wake up.
898
00:44:59,914 --> 00:45:01,567
And what I love
about the opening scene
899
00:45:01,611 --> 00:45:03,004
of "Dawn of the Dead"
900
00:45:03,047 --> 00:45:05,920
is that it's totally fine
to have the neighbor's kid
901
00:45:05,963 --> 00:45:09,924
come over to your house and
wake you up in the morning.
902
00:45:09,967 --> 00:45:12,622
Vivian's here.
Vivian, honey.
903
00:45:12,665 --> 00:45:14,493
Sweetie, are you okay?
904
00:45:14,537 --> 00:45:16,321
Not how did this kid
get into our house,
905
00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:18,976
but is she okay?
906
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,804
Lock your doors, man.
907
00:45:20,848 --> 00:45:23,154
And then we see this
incredible makeup
908
00:45:23,198 --> 00:45:25,722
of this girl who's missing
part of her face.
909
00:45:27,463 --> 00:45:29,117
I mean, she is rabid,
910
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,250
and it's so fun to watch,
and it's so shocking.
911
00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:34,644
Vivian!
912
00:45:34,687 --> 00:45:36,646
Zack Snyder was not afraid
913
00:45:36,689 --> 00:45:39,475
to go with full-on
Romero flesh tear.
914
00:45:43,305 --> 00:45:45,481
Your flesh is just Play-Doh,
915
00:45:45,524 --> 00:45:48,353
and you can tear it,
and blood will spray.
916
00:45:48,397 --> 00:45:50,834
And it's got
a terrific stunt in it too.
917
00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:53,054
She backs up,
and she slams into the bathtub,
918
00:45:53,097 --> 00:45:54,446
and hits her head on the back,
919
00:45:54,490 --> 00:45:56,100
and brings down
the shower curtain.
920
00:45:56,144 --> 00:45:59,669
That's great stuff.
That's good cinema.
921
00:45:59,712 --> 00:46:02,237
And then all of a sudden,
he breaks through the door.
922
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,848
Very "Here's Johnny" moment.
923
00:46:04,892 --> 00:46:06,894
But he's a full-on zombie
at that point,
924
00:46:06,937 --> 00:46:09,200
and she has to burst through
the window to get out.
925
00:46:09,244 --> 00:46:11,246
And the whole time,
we're with Sarah Polley
926
00:46:11,289 --> 00:46:12,551
trying to figure out,
927
00:46:12,595 --> 00:46:14,336
what would you do
in this situation?
928
00:46:14,379 --> 00:46:16,251
Not only is she trying
to survive zombies,
929
00:46:16,294 --> 00:46:18,906
she's also trying to survive
what people are doing.
930
00:46:18,949 --> 00:46:21,909
Help!
- Get back, Ana.
931
00:46:21,952 --> 00:46:24,868
So one thing we know from
zombie movies is people fail.
932
00:46:26,957 --> 00:46:28,524
We fail as a civilization.
933
00:46:28,567 --> 00:46:30,526
We do not help each other
in any way.
934
00:46:30,569 --> 00:46:32,112
And it's just Sarah Polley
having to, like,
935
00:46:32,136 --> 00:46:35,400
run for her life while trying
to process what's going on.
936
00:46:35,444 --> 00:46:37,011
And the whole place is chaos,
937
00:46:37,054 --> 00:46:39,578
and it's just
completely apocalyptic.
938
00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:41,450
And you're seeing it
from her point of view.
939
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:43,732
You're seeing people fleeing.
You're seeing stuff on fire.
940
00:46:43,756 --> 00:46:45,454
It's phenomenal.
941
00:46:45,497 --> 00:46:47,543
Just builds
to this incredible crescendo
942
00:46:47,586 --> 00:46:49,632
until finally,
we're escaping in a car.
943
00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:55,812
And then the camera pulls up,
and up, and up, and up,
944
00:46:55,856 --> 00:46:57,945
and you realize
this is happening everywhere.
945
00:46:57,988 --> 00:46:59,903
And then you're like,
yeah, right,
946
00:46:59,947 --> 00:47:01,600
I haven't even seen
the credits yet.
947
00:47:04,821 --> 00:47:06,083
You're just in it.
948
00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:07,955
You're living that moment
949
00:47:07,998 --> 00:47:12,263
and doing things that Romero
probably yearned to do
950
00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:15,223
and probably wanted
the toys for,
951
00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:17,225
to be able to execute that kind
952
00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,096
of zombie apocalypse beginning,
you know?
953
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:20,924
It works so well.
954
00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:25,624
That opening scene
is a movie unto itself.
955
00:47:28,497 --> 00:47:31,195
If I had paid 10 bucks,
gone into a movie theater,
956
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,303
and watched
that ten-minute film,
957
00:47:32,327 --> 00:47:33,458
I would have been like,
958
00:47:33,502 --> 00:47:36,679
"A little short,
but pretty goddamn good."
959
00:47:36,722 --> 00:47:38,855
I think there's a feeling--
960
00:47:38,899 --> 00:47:40,944
and it's probably even
stronger since the pandemic--
961
00:47:40,988 --> 00:47:44,295
but that for all
the law and order around us,
962
00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:45,688
we're always that close...
963
00:47:45,731 --> 00:47:49,474
Say something.
- Please.
964
00:47:49,518 --> 00:47:50,736
To something apocalyptic
965
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,434
just messing up the whole thing.
966
00:47:52,477 --> 00:47:53,957
And I think that
every time you think
967
00:47:54,001 --> 00:47:55,437
of the idea of society,
968
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,091
there's part of us that thinks,
969
00:47:57,134 --> 00:47:58,982
"At which point does it end?
What does it take?"
970
00:47:59,006 --> 00:48:00,877
And I don't know why that's fun,
971
00:48:00,921 --> 00:48:02,721
but I guess that's why
we watch horror movies.
972
00:48:05,403 --> 00:48:08,102
Fear of chaos.
973
00:48:08,145 --> 00:48:09,842
We're always that close
to chaos.
74676
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