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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:48,178 --> 00:00:51,224 A lot of films, in particular horror films, 2 00:00:51,268 --> 00:00:55,272 have those watercooler moments that people talk about. 3 00:00:57,448 --> 00:01:01,278 And that sort of spreads the mythology about the movie. 4 00:01:03,236 --> 00:01:05,116 If you haven't seen it, you have to go see it, 5 00:01:05,151 --> 00:01:06,631 and if you did see it, 6 00:01:06,674 --> 00:01:09,808 you have a very, very strong opinion about it. 7 00:01:09,851 --> 00:01:11,288 And that opinion is either shared 8 00:01:11,331 --> 00:01:13,159 with other fellow horror nerds... 9 00:01:13,203 --> 00:01:15,161 This is standard horror movie stuff. 10 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:21,733 Or disputed by people who maybe don't love horror 11 00:01:21,776 --> 00:01:23,213 or just don't agree. 12 00:01:25,867 --> 00:01:29,132 So it becomes this hotbed of debate. 13 00:01:29,175 --> 00:01:30,568 Either you're friends for life 14 00:01:30,611 --> 00:01:34,485 because you love the "Scanners" exploding head, 15 00:01:34,528 --> 00:01:38,183 or you're all of a sudden at arms with a friend 16 00:01:38,228 --> 00:01:40,055 because they thought it was too gross. 17 00:01:41,927 --> 00:01:43,320 And then you're just, 18 00:01:43,363 --> 00:01:46,018 "What are you talking about? That's impossible." 19 00:01:52,067 --> 00:01:53,393 โ™ช To take the dank out of the baggie, I got... โ™ช 20 00:01:53,417 --> 00:01:55,114 โ™ช Five on it 21 00:01:55,158 --> 00:01:57,986 From the trailer, I thought "Us" was going to be 22 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:00,380 a Black version of that movie 23 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:02,556 I personally have seen many times before. 24 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,123 A family is on vacation. 25 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,604 Ha-ha! - He's kidding, right? 26 00:02:06,647 --> 00:02:08,213 He's not kidding. 27 00:02:08,258 --> 00:02:10,347 They're isolated. Something bad happens. 28 00:02:12,697 --> 00:02:15,090 And it is the family on vacation movie, 29 00:02:15,134 --> 00:02:17,876 but it's also plus so much more. 30 00:02:25,405 --> 00:02:27,886 The scene that always hits me the hardest 31 00:02:27,929 --> 00:02:30,236 also is my worst fear: 32 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,238 home invasion. 33 00:02:32,282 --> 00:02:33,892 There's a family in our driveway. 34 00:02:33,935 --> 00:02:36,677 Who is that? 35 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:40,333 That moment when they look out into the driveway, 36 00:02:40,377 --> 00:02:42,683 and they see four people standing there, 37 00:02:42,727 --> 00:02:44,294 and it is so well shot 38 00:02:44,336 --> 00:02:46,010 'cause they're coming from the POV of the window, 39 00:02:46,034 --> 00:02:47,471 and they're all backlit, 40 00:02:47,514 --> 00:02:50,300 and you don't exactly see what they are. 41 00:02:50,343 --> 00:02:52,258 It's vague, but at the same time, 42 00:02:52,302 --> 00:02:54,826 you see the terror on the mom's face... 43 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:56,131 Hey, hey, hey, hey. 44 00:02:57,263 --> 00:02:58,612 As she realizes that 45 00:02:58,656 --> 00:03:00,745 they're in this isolated, rural environment. 46 00:03:00,788 --> 00:03:02,616 If there are four people in their driveway, 47 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:05,880 they are not there for good. 48 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:09,319 You have these great moments of family survival horror. 49 00:03:09,362 --> 00:03:11,930 Everything's gonna be fine. Calm down, okay? 50 00:03:11,973 --> 00:03:13,845 And I love this about "Us." 51 00:03:13,888 --> 00:03:15,412 Zora, the older daughter, 52 00:03:15,455 --> 00:03:16,606 when the father says to Jason... 53 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:18,502 Jason, give me the bat. 54 00:03:18,545 --> 00:03:19,825 And Jason, clueless, is like... 55 00:03:19,851 --> 00:03:21,287 What bat? 56 00:03:21,331 --> 00:03:22,941 Zora has already run 57 00:03:22,984 --> 00:03:24,638 and grabbed the bat and brought it back. 58 00:03:24,682 --> 00:03:26,050 There's one in the-- - Here, here. 59 00:03:26,074 --> 00:03:27,554 Thank you. 60 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:28,662 She's definitely the one I want on 61 00:03:28,686 --> 00:03:30,775 my zombie apocalypse team. 62 00:03:30,818 --> 00:03:33,038 Gabe! - I got this, I got this. 63 00:03:35,475 --> 00:03:37,521 Jordan Peele, obviously, he gets the terror, 64 00:03:37,564 --> 00:03:39,914 along with the levity, and, like, better than anyone. 65 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:41,872 Now, I thought I already done told y'all 66 00:03:41,916 --> 00:03:44,876 to get off my property, okay? 67 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:48,314 So if y'all want to get crazy, we can get crazy! 68 00:03:50,490 --> 00:03:52,622 Hey, hey, hey, hey! 69 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:54,755 And it always makes me think, 70 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:57,541 if four people were standing in my driveway 71 00:03:57,584 --> 00:04:01,588 and absolutely determined to get in my house, could they? 72 00:04:01,632 --> 00:04:03,131 And I think most of us are gonna answer, 73 00:04:03,155 --> 00:04:04,461 "Probably." 74 00:04:06,767 --> 00:04:08,726 We feel safe, but my God, 75 00:04:08,769 --> 00:04:10,336 we are so vulnerable. 76 00:04:14,732 --> 00:04:16,341 Please, please, please! 77 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:18,997 Stop right-- 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,346 I had the chance to talk to Jordan Peele, 79 00:04:21,391 --> 00:04:23,958 who's visited my UCLA class many times, 80 00:04:24,002 --> 00:04:26,961 and he's talked about sort of the genesis also for "Us," 81 00:04:27,005 --> 00:04:28,702 which is this idea of, 82 00:04:28,746 --> 00:04:31,357 what would happen if you walked into a train platform 83 00:04:31,401 --> 00:04:33,141 and you saw someone who looked just like you 84 00:04:33,185 --> 00:04:34,229 across the platform? 85 00:04:34,273 --> 00:04:35,927 And it turned into "Us," 86 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:39,365 this idea of not just one doppelganger, 87 00:04:39,409 --> 00:04:43,151 but an entire family of doppelgangers. 88 00:04:43,195 --> 00:04:44,936 It's us. 89 00:04:44,979 --> 00:04:46,696 The one thing that is scary about doppelgangers-- 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,375 we all know that there are two sides to ourselves. 91 00:04:49,419 --> 00:04:53,248 With "Us," they brought that to the front and center as to: 92 00:04:53,292 --> 00:04:56,295 This is what life is. This is what life can be. 93 00:04:56,339 --> 00:04:57,664 This is the life you have right now. 94 00:04:57,688 --> 00:04:59,211 Is it yours? 95 00:04:59,254 --> 00:05:01,213 And is it something that you deserve, 96 00:05:01,256 --> 00:05:02,910 or is it something that, you know, 97 00:05:02,954 --> 00:05:05,043 just happened to you by pure circumstance? 98 00:05:05,086 --> 00:05:07,045 And what happens if that changes? 99 00:05:07,088 --> 00:05:08,220 Don't look. - Is he dead? 100 00:05:08,263 --> 00:05:09,830 Don't look. 101 00:05:09,874 --> 00:05:12,485 That is one of the biggest surprises in "Us," 102 00:05:12,529 --> 00:05:15,401 is that it starts out as a family vacation movie, 103 00:05:15,445 --> 00:05:17,403 but it really ends up making you wonder 104 00:05:17,447 --> 00:05:19,884 about your own privilege, and what you're doing with it, 105 00:05:19,927 --> 00:05:21,122 and what you're not doing with it, 106 00:05:21,146 --> 00:05:22,843 and how unjust that is. 107 00:05:22,887 --> 00:05:28,414 It's our time now. Our time up there. 108 00:05:34,638 --> 00:05:38,511 Baa, baa, baa, baa, baa. 109 00:05:38,555 --> 00:05:42,254 The setup to "The Witch" is that a family of pilgrims, 110 00:05:42,297 --> 00:05:45,562 who are too religious for the religious community 111 00:05:45,605 --> 00:05:47,694 that they're in, strike out on their own 112 00:05:47,738 --> 00:05:49,957 and go and sort of set up in the middle of nowhere 113 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,785 in the woods, 114 00:05:51,829 --> 00:05:56,442 and then are beset upon by a witch or witches. 115 00:05:58,923 --> 00:06:04,015 Robert Eggers really wanted to tell a folktale-style story 116 00:06:04,058 --> 00:06:06,278 about a witch in pioneer time 117 00:06:06,321 --> 00:06:09,499 and have everything be exactly historically perfect, 118 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:12,327 including the words they say, and the clothes they wear, 119 00:06:12,371 --> 00:06:14,591 and the lighting that they use. 120 00:06:14,634 --> 00:06:16,941 One shot that I always think about in that movie, 121 00:06:16,984 --> 00:06:22,816 which is just a perfectly executed spooky moment, 122 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:26,037 is when Caleb is being drawn 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,389 to the house in the woods by a beautiful woman. 124 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:36,874 And then when the camera pans around, 125 00:06:36,917 --> 00:06:40,355 the hand that actually touches him is an old crone's hand. 126 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:44,882 And that is like a 21st century version 127 00:06:44,925 --> 00:06:48,146 of moments in Hammer movies. 128 00:06:48,189 --> 00:06:51,366 Like, "Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter" 129 00:06:51,410 --> 00:06:53,107 has a sequence like that, 130 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:56,502 where a beautiful woman suddenly becomes an old crone. 131 00:06:56,546 --> 00:06:58,199 "Crone" is such an ugly word, 132 00:06:58,243 --> 00:06:59,374 don't you think? 133 00:06:59,418 --> 00:07:00,854 Such an ugly thing to be. 134 00:07:00,898 --> 00:07:03,030 No, I don't think I shall ever be one. 135 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:10,081 In a Hammer movie, the scariest thing possible 136 00:07:10,124 --> 00:07:12,736 is the ravages of time. 137 00:07:12,779 --> 00:07:14,564 Something a bit cruel about that. 138 00:07:14,607 --> 00:07:16,914 Cruel but effective, and "The Witch," I think, 139 00:07:16,957 --> 00:07:19,656 sort of does a much more elegant version of that shot. 140 00:07:34,845 --> 00:07:38,457 "Zombi 2" is so unhinged. 141 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:41,068 They're coming back to life. They're everywhere. 142 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:47,726 This is Lucio Fulci at his best. 143 00:07:47,771 --> 00:07:49,337 The one scene of "Zombi" 144 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:54,604 that everyone will always remember is the eyeball scene, 145 00:07:54,647 --> 00:07:57,868 where a woman is being pursued by a zombie, 146 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:00,566 and she locks herself inside a room. 147 00:08:03,961 --> 00:08:05,852 And then she's kind of, like, you know, waiting at the door, 148 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:09,532 waiting for the zombie. 149 00:08:09,575 --> 00:08:15,015 The zombie breaks his way through the door, 150 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:19,933 leaving all this splintered wood, 151 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:21,369 grabs her head, 152 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:24,590 and then painstakingly slowly 153 00:08:24,634 --> 00:08:28,333 brings it towards this massive shard of wood 154 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:29,943 that is sticking out. 155 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:31,989 Why would a zombie do that? I don't know. 156 00:08:32,032 --> 00:08:34,774 You know, you never see zombies really being that creative 157 00:08:34,818 --> 00:08:36,601 in other zombie movies, 158 00:08:36,645 --> 00:08:38,082 but this was a creative zombie 159 00:08:38,125 --> 00:08:40,171 that really saw an opportunity and took it. 160 00:08:40,214 --> 00:08:43,000 A lot of it is shot from her POV. 161 00:08:43,043 --> 00:08:45,655 It goes back and forth in kind of a crosscut, 162 00:08:45,698 --> 00:08:46,960 where we're looking at her 163 00:08:47,004 --> 00:08:48,364 as she's screaming up at the zombie 164 00:08:48,396 --> 00:08:50,573 with the shard getting closer. 165 00:08:50,616 --> 00:08:53,358 And then slowly, the shard comes into focus, 166 00:08:53,401 --> 00:08:55,186 and everything else goes out of focus. 167 00:08:57,623 --> 00:08:59,277 And then we go to the side shot, 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,627 as we realize how close they're going. 169 00:09:05,065 --> 00:09:09,330 The anticipation is really beautiful and morbid, 170 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:12,638 and you almost-- you kind of want her to get away, 171 00:09:12,682 --> 00:09:14,858 but you kind of want her eye to pop. 172 00:09:14,901 --> 00:09:16,816 And you're not sure up until, 173 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,601 like, the last minute, what's gonna happen. 174 00:09:18,644 --> 00:09:20,404 You know, you're not sure if she's actually gonna get-- 175 00:09:20,428 --> 00:09:22,648 maybe she'll get away, but I really hope her eye pops. 176 00:09:25,651 --> 00:09:26,826 And it does. 177 00:09:33,964 --> 00:09:36,009 When the shard actually goes in, 178 00:09:36,053 --> 00:09:40,753 we see it in full penetrative grossness. 179 00:09:40,797 --> 00:09:43,538 It's gonna get really graphic because it's Lucio Fulci, 180 00:09:43,582 --> 00:09:45,540 so it's not just gonna intimate 181 00:09:45,583 --> 00:09:47,238 that it's stabbing you in the eye. 182 00:09:47,281 --> 00:09:49,066 He's gonna stab that person in the eye, 183 00:09:49,109 --> 00:09:51,198 and you're gonna watch every beautiful frame of it. 184 00:10:00,077 --> 00:10:01,794 And I think that's what makes it so iconic 185 00:10:01,818 --> 00:10:05,125 because he does not pull back from just giving it to you. 186 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:07,693 This scene is so terrifying, 187 00:10:07,737 --> 00:10:11,001 and it is because it's an eyeball. 188 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:14,657 Fulci knows what will really push audiences, 189 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:18,661 and the answer is eyeballs, 190 00:10:18,704 --> 00:10:20,097 teeth... 191 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:24,710 And fingernails. 192 00:10:27,757 --> 00:10:29,976 Because those are things that we embody with. 193 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:32,239 If that zombie had lunged at her neck... 194 00:10:34,458 --> 00:10:35,678 I would have been like, 195 00:10:35,721 --> 00:10:37,462 "Cool, zombie's ripping her neck apart." 196 00:10:37,505 --> 00:10:39,986 But I have no idea how that feels. 197 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:43,207 But the idea of us being poked in the eyeball with something, 198 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:45,208 most of us will immediately cringe 199 00:10:45,252 --> 00:10:47,733 because at some point, we have felt that pain. 200 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:49,822 We know what it's like to get poked in the eyeball, 201 00:10:49,866 --> 00:10:52,390 so we're very sensitive. 202 00:10:58,657 --> 00:11:01,747 "The Changeling" opens with a horrible accident, 203 00:11:01,791 --> 00:11:04,794 where a man sees his wife and child 204 00:11:04,837 --> 00:11:06,665 get run over by a truck. 205 00:11:12,802 --> 00:11:14,455 He's a music professor. 206 00:11:14,499 --> 00:11:16,719 He moves to a big house... 207 00:11:16,762 --> 00:11:18,416 When was the house last occupied? 208 00:11:18,459 --> 00:11:21,027 Let's see. About 12 years ago. 209 00:11:21,071 --> 00:11:22,812 Trying to get away from everything 210 00:11:22,855 --> 00:11:24,161 and restart his life somehow. 211 00:11:24,204 --> 00:11:26,990 There we go. 212 00:11:27,033 --> 00:11:31,603 And the house is increasingly giving him signs 213 00:11:31,646 --> 00:11:33,300 that there might be something in there 214 00:11:33,344 --> 00:11:36,303 that's a sign of some kind of afterlife. 215 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:41,265 That house is not fit to live in. 216 00:11:43,876 --> 00:11:47,662 It doesn't want people. 217 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:50,448 So he has this toy that used to belong to his daughter. 218 00:11:50,491 --> 00:11:52,929 Um, that was Kathy's, my daughter's. 219 00:11:52,972 --> 00:11:55,583 And it's moved a few times around the house, 220 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:57,107 and he doesn't really understand it, 221 00:11:57,150 --> 00:12:00,197 and at this point-- I think later on, he will understand 222 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,068 that there's a child playing in that house, 223 00:12:02,112 --> 00:12:04,307 that there's the spirit of a child that's trapped there, 224 00:12:04,331 --> 00:12:07,204 but at this point, he doesn't know anything yet. 225 00:12:07,247 --> 00:12:12,078 And he eventually decides to go throw the ball in the river 226 00:12:12,122 --> 00:12:14,733 because he's just tired of its antics. 227 00:12:18,693 --> 00:12:20,653 I understood the grief that he was going through 228 00:12:20,695 --> 00:12:22,697 in order to throw the ball away 229 00:12:22,741 --> 00:12:24,458 and into the river, and just to be gone with it. 230 00:12:24,482 --> 00:12:27,137 Sometimes you need that one talisman 231 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,616 that you need to get rid of, 232 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:30,401 that reminds you of the pain and suffering 233 00:12:30,444 --> 00:12:32,011 that is losing a child, 234 00:12:32,055 --> 00:12:35,101 and knowing that, "I need to let this go 235 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:37,190 and have it never come back." 236 00:12:48,071 --> 00:12:50,682 And then, your one biggest fear, 237 00:12:50,725 --> 00:12:52,205 your one biggest life regret 238 00:12:52,249 --> 00:12:54,860 comes just gently bouncing down. 239 00:13:01,432 --> 00:13:04,435 You know at that moment this is inescapable. 240 00:13:04,478 --> 00:13:07,177 When someone who looks like George C. Scott, 241 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,832 who looks like he doesn't have anything to fear in the world, 242 00:13:09,875 --> 00:13:11,964 because he has experience, because he has knowledge, 243 00:13:12,008 --> 00:13:13,574 because he has strength, 244 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:16,055 because he's not a scared little girl, 245 00:13:16,099 --> 00:13:18,536 has those moments of complete terror. 246 00:13:20,538 --> 00:13:22,279 And I think that's really what sells 247 00:13:22,322 --> 00:13:23,846 the moment with the red ball. 248 00:13:23,889 --> 00:13:25,717 And every time there's a scare in this movie, 249 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,589 what sells it is his expression. 250 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:30,243 There's nothing outward. 251 00:13:30,287 --> 00:13:33,246 There's just those eyes 252 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:34,595 and the fact that he's paralyzed. 253 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:35,901 And when you get really scared, 254 00:13:35,945 --> 00:13:37,424 that's very often what happens. 255 00:13:37,468 --> 00:13:39,557 You can't move. You just look at it. 256 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,733 And this movie captures that so well. 257 00:13:45,432 --> 00:13:48,653 Damn son of a bitch. 258 00:13:48,696 --> 00:13:50,611 What is it you want? 259 00:13:50,655 --> 00:13:53,179 What do you want from me? 260 00:13:53,223 --> 00:13:56,487 I've done everything I can do! 261 00:13:58,315 --> 00:13:59,838 There's nothing more to do. 262 00:14:19,379 --> 00:14:22,905 With "Phantom of the Opera," the 1925 version, 263 00:14:22,948 --> 00:14:26,647 he is closer to a straight villain 264 00:14:26,691 --> 00:14:30,086 than any other telling that we've seen. 265 00:14:32,479 --> 00:14:35,656 But still very sympathetic. 266 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,617 This is a character who has never experienced love, 267 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:43,490 and yet he is completely, to his mind, 268 00:14:43,534 --> 00:14:46,624 in love with this woman. 269 00:14:48,713 --> 00:14:52,238 The relationship with Christine 270 00:14:52,282 --> 00:14:55,633 is so endlessly interesting to me 271 00:14:55,676 --> 00:14:59,680 because it's so abusive and so terrible, 272 00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:02,292 but in the most heart-wrenching ways. 273 00:15:13,433 --> 00:15:16,175 When he brings her down to his lair, 274 00:15:16,219 --> 00:15:17,872 he's playing the organ. 275 00:15:17,916 --> 00:15:20,397 He's working on the opera "Don Juan Triumphant," 276 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,660 which is, for him, about her-- 277 00:15:22,703 --> 00:15:25,619 about him finally receiving the love 278 00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:28,883 that he has been hungry for forever. 279 00:15:28,927 --> 00:15:32,626 And there's this moment in the scene 280 00:15:32,670 --> 00:15:35,499 where she reaches to him, 281 00:15:35,542 --> 00:15:38,154 and you see him kind of lean into it 282 00:15:38,197 --> 00:15:41,505 like he's receiving tenderness. 283 00:15:46,945 --> 00:15:48,816 And then she tears the mask away. 284 00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:55,040 The first time you see his face, fully revealed, 285 00:15:55,083 --> 00:15:58,870 lit, like, that's the mask of death. 286 00:16:00,785 --> 00:16:03,048 You'll never scrub that from your brain. 287 00:16:03,092 --> 00:16:09,489 And I would kill to be able to have sat in a cinema in 1925 288 00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:11,578 and been amongst a crowd of people 289 00:16:11,622 --> 00:16:15,452 who had never seen anything like that in their lives. 290 00:16:15,495 --> 00:16:17,976 The screams that must have erupted 291 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:21,893 in the aisles of the theaters. 292 00:16:21,936 --> 00:16:25,288 My mother saw that movie in the theater. 293 00:16:25,331 --> 00:16:27,986 And she said people fainted. 294 00:16:28,030 --> 00:16:30,423 You know, here's this gentle guy 295 00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:33,557 wearing a flimsy mask 296 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,081 with lace underneath it and stuff. 297 00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:40,390 Then when the mask comes off, he's this living skull. 298 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:42,435 The horror is meant to be, 299 00:16:42,479 --> 00:16:44,829 like, the horror of his disfigurement. 300 00:16:44,872 --> 00:16:47,571 But that's not really what the horror is here. 301 00:16:47,614 --> 00:16:49,833 It's her. It's Christine. 302 00:16:49,877 --> 00:16:52,576 It's what she has done to him 303 00:16:52,619 --> 00:16:54,491 and what she has taken from him 304 00:16:54,534 --> 00:16:56,971 because of what the mask represents to him. 305 00:16:57,015 --> 00:16:58,495 To him, it's freedom. 306 00:16:58,538 --> 00:17:01,759 To him, it's the possibility of being seen 307 00:17:01,802 --> 00:17:06,024 as something more than his disability. 308 00:17:06,068 --> 00:17:09,419 The film is ultimately really raising that question 309 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:11,769 of what constitutes monstrosity, 310 00:17:11,812 --> 00:17:14,337 the same way that "Frankenstein" is. 311 00:17:14,380 --> 00:17:16,600 Who is the real monster here? 312 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:35,445 Stop! 313 00:17:39,927 --> 00:17:41,625 "The Brood," man. 314 00:17:41,668 --> 00:17:44,106 I'm not saying it's the reason I got a vasectomy, 315 00:17:44,149 --> 00:17:47,718 but I'm not saying it's not. 316 00:17:47,761 --> 00:17:49,372 Oliver Reed plays this psychologist 317 00:17:49,415 --> 00:17:50,764 who's written a book on 318 00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,766 0the physical expressions of rage, 319 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:56,161 and how rage can express itself on the body. 320 00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:59,338 Show me your anger, show me! Then I can understand it. 321 00:18:02,254 --> 00:18:05,779 Wow. The man is a genius. 322 00:18:05,823 --> 00:18:08,173 And Samantha Eggar's character, 323 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:10,436 her rage is contained in her mind, 324 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,873 but it's expressed through these tiny little children 325 00:18:12,917 --> 00:18:16,007 who become murderous expressions of her rage. 326 00:18:19,402 --> 00:18:21,230 Cronenberg has said publicly-- 327 00:18:21,273 --> 00:18:23,710 he's also told me when we were working together-- 328 00:18:23,754 --> 00:18:24,992 that it was a very personal film, 329 00:18:25,016 --> 00:18:27,671 it was about divorce, and I can see that. 330 00:18:27,714 --> 00:18:29,934 You shouldn't say how much you hate me, 331 00:18:29,977 --> 00:18:31,544 and you're gonna stop! 332 00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:33,503 It really is an emotional film, 333 00:18:33,546 --> 00:18:35,635 which is something that a lot of his movies 334 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:38,421 kind of keep at a distance. 335 00:18:38,464 --> 00:18:39,813 The final scene in "The Brood," 336 00:18:39,857 --> 00:18:41,554 where we reveal the brood, 337 00:18:41,598 --> 00:18:42,705 and Samantha Eggar kind of lifts her gown... 338 00:18:42,729 --> 00:18:45,776 Look. 339 00:18:45,819 --> 00:18:48,648 Is truly gross and disgusting. 340 00:18:48,692 --> 00:18:49,930 First of all, she's got these, like-- 341 00:18:49,954 --> 00:18:52,217 look like potato sprouts on her 342 00:18:52,261 --> 00:18:54,567 that will grow into these egg sacs. 343 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:57,135 We can get disgusted, but if Frank gets disgusted, 344 00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:58,832 he's gonna offend Nola, the ex. 345 00:18:58,876 --> 00:19:01,183 And if she gets offended, she's gonna get angry. 346 00:19:01,226 --> 00:19:03,446 And Oliver Reed's down in the bunkhouse, 347 00:19:03,489 --> 00:19:05,448 you know, trying to get Candice. 348 00:19:05,491 --> 00:19:08,407 You know, it's just, this room of bunk beds of brood. 349 00:19:08,451 --> 00:19:10,017 It's like the worse camp in the world. 350 00:19:10,061 --> 00:19:11,671 They're just, like, you know, the worst. 351 00:19:11,715 --> 00:19:13,412 And this parallel action's going. 352 00:19:13,456 --> 00:19:15,458 It's just so effective. 353 00:19:15,501 --> 00:19:19,853 "The Brood" is interesting, because it forces men 354 00:19:19,897 --> 00:19:23,640 in particular to confront the realities of pregnancy 355 00:19:23,683 --> 00:19:26,251 and what it is women have to go through. 356 00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:28,862 And we do not understand what it's like 357 00:19:28,906 --> 00:19:31,561 to grow something inside of us 358 00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:34,694 and then to try to get that thing outside of our body. 359 00:19:34,738 --> 00:19:36,348 And it's amazing, 360 00:19:36,392 --> 00:19:40,396 but it's also-- it's true body horror. 361 00:19:40,439 --> 00:19:44,617 And "The Brood" just takes that and rubs your face in it. 362 00:19:44,661 --> 00:19:48,665 Just seeing the scene where she holds up a baby 363 00:19:48,708 --> 00:19:50,928 after the sac has been opened, 364 00:19:50,971 --> 00:19:53,147 and here it is, covered with fetal blood, 365 00:19:53,191 --> 00:19:55,846 and she licks it clean. 366 00:19:55,889 --> 00:19:58,327 She is basically doing the most natural thing 367 00:19:58,370 --> 00:19:59,806 for her in the moment. 368 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:01,243 It might be disgusting, 369 00:20:01,286 --> 00:20:02,853 but it was a very natural thing for her. 370 00:20:02,896 --> 00:20:04,768 And he is just there, to the point where, 371 00:20:04,811 --> 00:20:07,988 at one point, he, like-- 372 00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,164 God, Nola. 373 00:20:10,208 --> 00:20:13,472 And she realizes that he is just appalled by her. 374 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:16,562 No. I disgust you. 375 00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:18,260 She offers up her baby, 376 00:20:18,303 --> 00:20:21,350 and when the reaction is disgust, 377 00:20:21,393 --> 00:20:23,743 she says, with a great deal of shock, 378 00:20:23,787 --> 00:20:25,441 "I disgust you." 379 00:20:25,484 --> 00:20:28,313 And it's just a moment, like, "Yeah, you do!" 380 00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,489 From her perspective, it's beautiful, 381 00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:31,969 and it's a part of her, 382 00:20:32,012 --> 00:20:35,320 and it's something that is of her body. 383 00:20:35,364 --> 00:20:36,930 The mind-body dualism 384 00:20:36,974 --> 00:20:39,193 that Cronenberg deals with thematically 385 00:20:39,237 --> 00:20:41,108 in almost all of his horror films 386 00:20:41,152 --> 00:20:43,720 is really wonderful, and unique, 387 00:20:43,763 --> 00:20:47,332 and iconic specifically to David Cronenberg. 388 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:50,248 Cronenberg just says, "You can repress all you want. 389 00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:52,859 It will come out in some unpleasant ways." 390 00:20:57,081 --> 00:21:00,171 They're doing what you want them to do! 391 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:12,879 I think some of the most exciting cinema 392 00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:15,012 of the last 20 years is coming out of Korea. 393 00:21:17,014 --> 00:21:19,364 "A Tale of Two Sisters" appeared to be 394 00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:23,890 another one of those kind of long-haired ghost films, 395 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:26,893 but it proved to be something way more inventive 396 00:21:26,937 --> 00:21:29,766 than anyone was expecting. 397 00:21:29,809 --> 00:21:31,855 "A Tale of Two Sisters" is about a young woman 398 00:21:31,898 --> 00:21:33,944 who gets out of an institution, an asylum, 399 00:21:33,987 --> 00:21:36,338 and she returns home to her family, 400 00:21:36,381 --> 00:21:39,210 where she is now with her sister, 401 00:21:39,253 --> 00:21:42,300 their father, and their new stepmom. 402 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,737 And as she's adjusting to this life, 403 00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:47,174 the stepmom is exhibiting sort of wicked behavior, 404 00:21:47,218 --> 00:21:48,785 classically wicked behavior. 405 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:57,750 There seems to be a haunting in the home surrounding them. 406 00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:03,756 And so there's a lot of psychological, 407 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,410 familial horror going on, 408 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,673 but also a supernatural element that this is, 409 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,414 in some ways, a classic ghost story. 410 00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:12,156 Something is wrong, and you just don't know with who. 411 00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:19,139 It's set inside this very domestic setting, 412 00:22:19,163 --> 00:22:21,774 inside the house. 413 00:22:21,818 --> 00:22:23,938 And so, these places where you think should be safe... 414 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:27,650 Like your bedroom, your hallway, 415 00:22:27,693 --> 00:22:30,479 suddenly become very sinister. 416 00:22:30,522 --> 00:22:36,136 What we have is a dinner scene where 417 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:39,313 our characters' stepmother and father 418 00:22:39,357 --> 00:22:42,055 are having lunch with 419 00:22:42,099 --> 00:22:44,884 the stepmother's brother and his wife. 420 00:22:44,928 --> 00:22:46,886 And she's going on and on about these stories. 421 00:22:57,244 --> 00:23:01,335 It also uses that ploy that is so brilliant, 422 00:23:01,379 --> 00:23:04,077 where you get embroiled in a domestic argument, 423 00:23:04,121 --> 00:23:05,383 a dinner table scene, 424 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:07,864 which is universal and relatable. 425 00:23:07,907 --> 00:23:10,127 But then it is suddenly escalated 426 00:23:10,170 --> 00:23:12,434 by something really, genuinely shocking. 427 00:23:17,395 --> 00:23:19,963 The brother's wife has this seizure. 428 00:23:22,922 --> 00:23:25,185 We don't know what kind of medical condition she has. 429 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,318 We don't know much about her character at all. 430 00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:34,456 But after she recovers, 431 00:23:34,499 --> 00:23:35,859 she's driving away, and she says... 432 00:23:40,592 --> 00:23:42,638 You see this horrible face kind of staring at you 433 00:23:42,681 --> 00:23:43,745 from where you don't expect, underneath-- 434 00:23:43,769 --> 00:23:45,249 you know, against the kitchen floor. 435 00:23:45,292 --> 00:23:47,207 That's the big jolt, where you don't see it, 436 00:23:47,251 --> 00:23:49,471 coming out of nowhere. 437 00:23:49,514 --> 00:23:52,212 Later, the stepmother is in the kitchen, 438 00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:55,564 and she bends down to look underneath the sink. 439 00:24:08,272 --> 00:24:10,666 And as she does, 440 00:24:10,709 --> 00:24:13,016 we're presented, in the background, 441 00:24:13,059 --> 00:24:15,061 with a girl in a green dress 442 00:24:15,105 --> 00:24:18,195 seated at the table with her head down. 443 00:24:18,238 --> 00:24:21,024 There's no sting. There's no crash zoom. 444 00:24:21,067 --> 00:24:24,114 There's no startling sound. It is silent. 445 00:24:24,157 --> 00:24:29,119 And by the time you absorb it visually, they cut away. 446 00:24:29,162 --> 00:24:33,253 It is so masterfully done that you tense up. 447 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,647 Every muscle in your body kind of seizes. 448 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,954 And it was one of the first times, 449 00:24:37,997 --> 00:24:41,653 as an adult who'd spent so much of his life 450 00:24:41,697 --> 00:24:43,873 in this genre and watching things, 451 00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:47,877 that I started to watch the film like this. 452 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,749 I was so swept up by the dread of it all. 453 00:25:05,721 --> 00:25:08,158 I think that the kitchen jump scare 454 00:25:08,201 --> 00:25:09,551 in "A Tale of Two Sisters" 455 00:25:09,594 --> 00:25:11,224 is maybe one of the great jump scares of all time. 456 00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:12,728 It's a very classical scare, 457 00:25:12,771 --> 00:25:14,512 a very classical piece of anticipation, 458 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:17,167 and, you know, searching under and looking. 459 00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:20,431 And when that hand comes out, 460 00:25:20,474 --> 00:25:21,887 it's one of those great moments of, like, 461 00:25:21,911 --> 00:25:23,826 the old tricks still work. 462 00:25:23,869 --> 00:25:25,871 Like, you know, traditional horror filmmaking 463 00:25:25,915 --> 00:25:27,795 can really still get you. It's great. I love it. 464 00:25:45,064 --> 00:25:47,850 It's the movie! 465 00:25:47,893 --> 00:25:49,591 The movie's to blame for all this. 466 00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:51,941 "Demons" was Lamberto Bava's really big breakthrough. 467 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,551 It's still his biggest film by far. 468 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:55,379 It was a huge release all around the world. 469 00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:58,643 Very popular. Has almost no plot whatsoever, 470 00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:00,906 which, in this case, kind of became an advantage 471 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:03,561 because, you know, even the dubbing didn't really matter. 472 00:26:03,605 --> 00:26:05,476 What are they after? 473 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:07,478 I don't know, Baby Pig. You ask them. 474 00:26:07,521 --> 00:26:10,176 It's us they want, asshole. See you in hell! 475 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:12,048 Guys, let's go! 476 00:26:12,091 --> 00:26:14,069 You can walk out and go get a popcorn for five minutes. 477 00:26:14,093 --> 00:26:16,071 Doesn't really matter-- you can walk back in, and you're good. 478 00:26:16,095 --> 00:26:18,794 "Demons" is just hip. It's cool. 479 00:26:20,796 --> 00:26:23,015 It's got a liveliness to it. 480 00:26:23,059 --> 00:26:25,322 It's got a punk rock attitude to it. 481 00:26:28,455 --> 00:26:29,781 So the setup for "Demons" is that 482 00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:31,217 there's this sneak preview for a horror film 483 00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:32,982 that's being held in Germany, Berlin. 484 00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:34,636 Are you sure you want to cut class? 485 00:26:36,725 --> 00:26:38,746 And there's this big display outside with a motorcycle 486 00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:40,119 with a big steel mask, 487 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:42,469 ร  la Mario Bava's "Black Sunday." 488 00:26:42,513 --> 00:26:46,299 Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. 489 00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:49,172 And then this woman gets scratched by it on her face. 490 00:26:49,215 --> 00:26:51,914 What was that? 491 00:26:51,957 --> 00:26:53,742 Hey, you cut yourself. - Shit. 492 00:26:53,785 --> 00:26:55,265 That'll teach you to touch things. 493 00:26:55,308 --> 00:26:56,962 She gets scratched by the mask 494 00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:59,704 and goes into the bathroom, and she starts to transform. 495 00:27:02,707 --> 00:27:06,711 And there's this incredible sequence 496 00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:10,628 where she's chasing another audience member 497 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,369 and, like, scratches her. 498 00:27:12,412 --> 00:27:13,718 Help! 499 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:14,956 The audience realizes that something 500 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:16,112 has gone horribly wrong. 501 00:27:16,155 --> 00:27:17,548 They're watching the movie 502 00:27:17,591 --> 00:27:18,656 where this woman's getting attacked in a tent, 503 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,874 and she's screaming, and, you know, 504 00:27:19,898 --> 00:27:22,161 there's this thing running loose on screen. 505 00:27:22,205 --> 00:27:24,424 And, you know, our main girl says... 506 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,252 Hey, there's somebody behind the screen. 507 00:27:26,296 --> 00:27:27,795 "There's something wrong. I hear screaming." 508 00:27:27,819 --> 00:27:29,516 And the guy she's with says... 509 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,388 Come on, it's the Dolby system. 510 00:27:31,431 --> 00:27:33,738 I'm telling you, those screams sound real! 511 00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:36,828 And the screen suddenly just splits right open, 512 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:38,395 and this infected girl 513 00:27:38,438 --> 00:27:39,764 just flies right through the screen. 514 00:27:39,788 --> 00:27:41,441 What happened? 515 00:27:41,485 --> 00:27:44,140 Holy shit! She's a friend of mine. 516 00:27:44,183 --> 00:27:48,971 Hey, baby, what happened? Shit, baby, what happened? 517 00:27:49,014 --> 00:27:51,190 And her fingernails-- these amazing practical effects. 518 00:27:51,234 --> 00:27:52,907 Her fingernails suddenly just go like this, 519 00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:55,107 and cut into the wood on the floor. 520 00:27:57,501 --> 00:27:58,937 Gunk is coming out of her mouth, 521 00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:01,157 and things are, like, misshapen and bubbling. 522 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,117 And my favorite part-- well, after her teeth fall out 523 00:28:05,161 --> 00:28:07,121 because, you know, you gotta grow in the new teeth 524 00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:09,208 'cause you can't be a demon without new teeth. 525 00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:11,210 Her tongue sticks out, 526 00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:14,083 and it's, like, this weird, spiral, long thing. 527 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,563 Grotesque really is the right word. 528 00:28:16,607 --> 00:28:19,088 What I love about it is that, 529 00:28:19,131 --> 00:28:21,960 when demon shit starts to go down, 530 00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:23,788 they all stand around and watch it. 531 00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:25,485 God, what's happening? 532 00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:30,012 Because we all know that's what probably we would do. 533 00:28:30,055 --> 00:28:33,145 And if there were cell phones back in the "Demons" days, 534 00:28:33,189 --> 00:28:35,254 people would be just sitting there recording this poor woman 535 00:28:35,278 --> 00:28:37,106 turning into a demon on the stage. 536 00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:38,977 Get out! Everybody, get away! 537 00:28:39,021 --> 00:28:40,718 Get out! 538 00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:42,807 What are you waiting for? Run! 539 00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:44,766 When the transformation is complete, 540 00:28:44,809 --> 00:28:47,551 and she sort of, like, tears her way 541 00:28:47,594 --> 00:28:51,642 through this former audience member's neck, 542 00:28:51,685 --> 00:28:55,646 it again is calling back to tearing through the screen. 543 00:28:55,689 --> 00:28:58,170 And so we get these continuous layers, 544 00:28:58,214 --> 00:29:01,739 where the space between fiction and reality 545 00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:03,132 is essentially blurring. 546 00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:06,135 It's too bloody of a movie. - Ruth, shut up. 547 00:29:07,745 --> 00:29:11,183 And it just descends into absolute mayhem. 548 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,059 Let's find the emergency exit! 549 00:29:21,063 --> 00:29:23,065 Smash everything! 550 00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:31,595 And I also like the fact that it's not really explained 551 00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:33,336 what the film is, where it came from, 552 00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:34,685 why it turns people into demons. 553 00:29:34,728 --> 00:29:35,947 Doesn't really matter. 554 00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:38,036 What matters is demons 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,778 turning people-- other people into demons 556 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:42,998 and eventually breaking out of the movie theater 557 00:29:43,041 --> 00:29:44,869 to turn the whole world into demons. 558 00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,175 That movie is so much fun, 559 00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:47,567 and that image of all the demons 560 00:29:47,611 --> 00:29:49,439 with the glowing eyes-- it seems silly, 561 00:29:49,482 --> 00:29:51,920 I'm sure, to another generation of horror fan, 562 00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:56,011 but it worked so well for me when I was a kid. 563 00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:13,724 "Doctor Sleep" is that sequel to "The Shining" 564 00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:15,682 that was well worth waiting for, 565 00:30:15,726 --> 00:30:18,207 revisiting Danny as an older person... 566 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,255 Who comes across a young girl, Abra, 567 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:25,431 who also has that "shining," 568 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:31,089 who is in the crosshairs of this hunting cult family 569 00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:35,528 of not vampires, but kind of vampires. 570 00:30:35,572 --> 00:30:39,054 We are the True Knot, and we endure. 571 00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:43,928 When I read "Doctor Sleep," 572 00:30:43,972 --> 00:30:45,930 there was one scene in the book 573 00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,324 that was different than everything else around it. 574 00:30:48,367 --> 00:30:52,415 And that was where the story became an overt horror story. 575 00:30:52,458 --> 00:30:55,026 And that's in the murder of Bradley Trevor, 576 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:56,917 the baseball boy, at the hands of the True Knot. 577 00:30:56,941 --> 00:30:59,204 Just saw your game. 578 00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:01,206 You are ready for the majors. 579 00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,121 Well played. - Thanks. 580 00:31:03,165 --> 00:31:05,471 It takes a group of antagonists 581 00:31:05,515 --> 00:31:06,951 who, up until that point... 582 00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,823 It's okay. We're friends. 583 00:31:09,867 --> 00:31:10,868 You want to hop in. 584 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,391 Are kind of cheeky, 585 00:31:12,435 --> 00:31:15,003 they're kind of funny. 586 00:31:15,046 --> 00:31:16,918 And then this scene happens, 587 00:31:16,961 --> 00:31:21,966 and you understand how it is that these creatures exist, 588 00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:26,362 and how they eat, and how they have these elongated lives. 589 00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:29,321 And it's that they harvest the life force 590 00:31:29,365 --> 00:31:32,542 of these kids who have the shining, 591 00:31:32,585 --> 00:31:35,545 who have these special abilities. 592 00:31:35,588 --> 00:31:37,982 What better way... - No, please, let me go! 593 00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:39,984 To build up your main villain... 594 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:42,030 I won't tell! I won't tell, please! 595 00:31:42,073 --> 00:31:44,728 Than to show her commit the most horrendous act 596 00:31:44,771 --> 00:31:46,556 that she could possibly commit? 597 00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,210 It's just so utterly brutal. 598 00:31:48,253 --> 00:31:51,213 You don't see children murdered on screen a lot like that. 599 00:31:51,256 --> 00:31:53,693 That's when you know that a movie is really going there. 600 00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:55,521 The kid, he's, like, "Are you gonna hurt me?" 601 00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,001 And Rose the Hat says... 602 00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,829 Yes. - No! 603 00:31:58,872 --> 00:32:00,396 "In fact, it makes it better for us. 604 00:32:00,439 --> 00:32:01,879 So yeah, we're gonna hurt you a lot." 605 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:03,573 And before you know it, he's screaming, 606 00:32:03,616 --> 00:32:05,749 and the steam is coming, and their eyes are glowing. 607 00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:08,665 And it looks like this trippy, like, orgy, almost. 608 00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:13,670 Jacob Tremblay selling the shit out of it, 609 00:32:13,713 --> 00:32:16,760 doing such a great job, being so believable, 610 00:32:16,803 --> 00:32:19,023 acting with no ego at all. 611 00:32:19,067 --> 00:32:21,069 It shakes you to your core 612 00:32:21,112 --> 00:32:23,245 because of the reaction of this little boy. 613 00:32:23,288 --> 00:32:25,638 The more he's in pain, the more they can feed off it. 614 00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:26,988 Again, you don't often see that, 615 00:32:27,031 --> 00:32:28,467 but you also don't often see 616 00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:30,643 the villains actually enjoying that act. 617 00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:32,515 What really made it scary was not just 618 00:32:32,558 --> 00:32:34,256 that he was being tortured and murdered, 619 00:32:34,299 --> 00:32:37,911 but this was a ritual that was just an everyday part 620 00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:40,305 of their existence. This is how they feed. 621 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:44,440 This is just Tuesday for them, you know? 622 00:32:44,483 --> 00:32:46,418 We designed the shots to keep the explicit violence 623 00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:48,139 completely off screen. 624 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:50,228 And ultimately, it didn't make a difference at all 625 00:32:50,272 --> 00:32:52,317 because Jacob Tremblay 626 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:55,190 committed to the performance so well 627 00:32:55,233 --> 00:33:01,152 that you don't need to see the explicit violence. 628 00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:05,374 The pain and the anguish on his face make it unbearable. 629 00:33:05,417 --> 00:33:08,029 Sometimes, it's a matter of frames. 630 00:33:08,072 --> 00:33:10,074 Just lingering just a little bit too long 631 00:33:10,118 --> 00:33:12,598 is the thing that's gonna make you turn off. 632 00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,296 I screened it for Stephen King. 633 00:33:14,339 --> 00:33:16,689 He loved the movie, and his only comment was, 634 00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:19,040 "Boy, that baseball boy scene 635 00:33:19,083 --> 00:33:20,693 "goes on a little too long, doesn't it? 636 00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:22,086 That's a bit much." 637 00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:24,001 It turned out to be about the sound. 638 00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:28,962 It turned out to be about Jacob's voice, 639 00:33:29,006 --> 00:33:33,097 and it turned out to be about the sound of the knife 640 00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:37,493 and of the steam. 641 00:33:37,536 --> 00:33:39,799 We cut the scene down to, I think, about a quarter 642 00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,932 of what it originally was. 643 00:33:41,975 --> 00:33:44,369 And it remains the scene where I would see people get up 644 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:46,110 and walk out during screenings. 645 00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:47,609 Our executives would get up and walk out. 646 00:33:47,633 --> 00:33:49,896 My wife got up and walked out. 647 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,681 It's a devastating sequence. 648 00:33:51,724 --> 00:33:53,770 Damn, I thought he had another few minutes in him. 649 00:33:57,513 --> 00:34:01,821 They will say that I have shed innocent blood. 650 00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:06,217 What's blood for if not for shedding? 651 00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:09,264 With my hook for a hand, 652 00:34:09,307 --> 00:34:13,746 I'll split you from your groin to your gullet. 653 00:34:13,789 --> 00:34:15,661 As a kid, night after night, 654 00:34:15,704 --> 00:34:17,334 I would just assume, if I opened up my eyes, 655 00:34:17,358 --> 00:34:19,448 I would see Candyman hovering above me. 656 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:21,928 Just night after night, and I would just be paralyzed. 657 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:23,713 And I just wouldn't sleep. 658 00:34:23,756 --> 00:34:27,499 And I knew if I tried to turn on my side to go back to sleep, 659 00:34:27,543 --> 00:34:29,129 my shoulder would touch him, you know, just-- 660 00:34:29,153 --> 00:34:30,414 and then that would be it. 661 00:34:30,459 --> 00:34:32,765 I would just get ripped groin to gullet. 662 00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,333 The legend first appeared in 1890. 663 00:34:35,376 --> 00:34:37,465 Candyman was the son of a slave. 664 00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:39,294 He's chased by this mob, 665 00:34:39,336 --> 00:34:41,599 and they smear honey all over his body 666 00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,340 from this nearby beehive. 667 00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:45,038 And then the bees sting him to death. 668 00:34:45,082 --> 00:34:46,344 And supposedly, as he's dying, 669 00:34:46,387 --> 00:34:48,227 they kind of taunt him as "Candyman, Candyman." 670 00:34:48,259 --> 00:34:50,566 They say his name five times, and he dies. 671 00:34:50,608 --> 00:34:53,090 Poor Candyman. 672 00:34:53,134 --> 00:34:55,874 He's not just some monster. 673 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,095 He was a person. 674 00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:00,184 And there still is a person there. 675 00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:04,014 And he really does reach out to you delicately. 676 00:35:04,057 --> 00:35:05,842 And then he brutally kills you. 677 00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:10,194 He's unlike all the other movie monsters 678 00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:13,241 because there's something so real and also so beautiful. 679 00:35:13,284 --> 00:35:15,591 Do you believe in me? 680 00:35:15,634 --> 00:35:18,071 Tony Todd brought such a depth to that character 681 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:19,682 and such a soulfulness to that character 682 00:35:19,725 --> 00:35:21,249 that I think a lot of other actors 683 00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:22,989 would have not done that. 684 00:35:23,033 --> 00:35:25,340 They would have just kind of played him as evil or wicked. 685 00:35:25,383 --> 00:35:28,299 Her death will be a tale to frighten children, 686 00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:31,302 to make lovers cling closer in the rapture. 687 00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:32,999 And then Virginia Madsen, 688 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:35,219 that was a tour de force performance for her as well. 689 00:35:38,744 --> 00:35:40,398 I think the most significant scene 690 00:35:40,442 --> 00:35:42,095 is the first time you see him. 691 00:35:42,139 --> 00:35:43,445 It's in broad daylight. 692 00:35:43,488 --> 00:35:45,142 Virginia's character, Helen, 693 00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:47,100 has already been through the wringer. 694 00:35:47,144 --> 00:35:50,930 And as she searches for her car in the middle of the afternoon, 695 00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:54,282 about 100 meters away is this tall, elegant gentleman 696 00:35:54,325 --> 00:35:56,936 who's very gently calling her name. 697 00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:00,157 "Helen, Helen." 698 00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:04,161 Yes? - Helen. 699 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,468 There is something very scary about parking lots, 700 00:36:06,511 --> 00:36:08,209 first of all, especially as a woman. 701 00:36:08,252 --> 00:36:09,534 You want to walk through the parking lot 702 00:36:09,558 --> 00:36:11,168 with your keys ready like claws 703 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,778 in case someone bothers you. 704 00:36:12,822 --> 00:36:14,408 And this is definitely someone bothering you. 705 00:36:14,432 --> 00:36:18,567 Helen, I came for you. 706 00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:21,700 But the fact that he had this hold on her 707 00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:23,746 is part of what makes it so scary. 708 00:36:23,789 --> 00:36:28,446 So she's not reacting the way she should be reacting. 709 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:31,319 She's just sort of under a spell, 710 00:36:31,362 --> 00:36:33,146 kind of like he's a vampire. 711 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:36,411 Be my victim. 712 00:36:36,454 --> 00:36:38,239 And that's when I'm like, 713 00:36:38,282 --> 00:36:41,677 "Boy, we're in trouble now." 714 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,637 Bernard Rose, the director, had a hypnotist on set, 715 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:49,380 so whether it was actually implied or not, who knows. 716 00:36:49,424 --> 00:36:54,255 But she was put under for every scene that involved me. 717 00:36:54,298 --> 00:36:56,996 Forget about all the stabbing the psychiatrist in the back. 718 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,324 Who doesn't want to do that to their shrink? 719 00:37:00,348 --> 00:37:02,524 But that moment of them meeting, 720 00:37:02,567 --> 00:37:04,308 I think, is iconic as hell. 721 00:37:04,352 --> 00:37:09,400 Clive Barker is so great at coming up with scares 722 00:37:09,444 --> 00:37:12,925 that you're not used to. 723 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:14,318 They come from left field. 724 00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:16,755 They come from a different direction. 725 00:37:16,799 --> 00:37:18,931 But "Candyman," in particular, 726 00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:20,846 the scene that most affected me-- 727 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:27,331 When Candyman, Tony Todd, opens his mouth, 728 00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:29,333 and there are live bees. 729 00:37:29,377 --> 00:37:31,509 And that was for real. That's not special effects. 730 00:37:31,553 --> 00:37:33,903 That was pre-digital. You can tell. 731 00:37:33,946 --> 00:37:36,384 The veracity of that-- you know this is a guy 732 00:37:36,427 --> 00:37:39,865 with a mouth full of bees, and that freaked me out. 733 00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:42,346 Listen, I got my master's in theater, man, 734 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:44,261 and we were taught to be fearless. 735 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:46,481 And you approach every role as if it's a thing 736 00:37:46,524 --> 00:37:48,700 that's just gonna be-- make that magic moment. 737 00:37:48,744 --> 00:37:50,615 And I knew that when I read the script, 738 00:37:50,659 --> 00:37:52,225 nobody had ever done that before, 739 00:37:52,269 --> 00:37:53,618 and nobody's done it since. 740 00:37:53,662 --> 00:37:55,620 It's freaky, and it still feels freaky. 741 00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:59,189 I mean, I can feel them humming around inside my mouth. 742 00:37:59,232 --> 00:38:00,669 It was crazy. 743 00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:03,193 But you gotta love this. You gotta love it. 744 00:38:03,236 --> 00:38:05,282 If you don't love it, walk the fuck away. 745 00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:16,772 What is that? - A caper. 746 00:38:16,815 --> 00:38:18,556 It's a rat turd. 747 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,820 A what? - A rat turd. 748 00:38:21,864 --> 00:38:26,390 A caper. - If it's a caper, eat it. 749 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:29,393 "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." 750 00:38:29,437 --> 00:38:31,526 I'm laughing now, but I wasn't laughing 751 00:38:31,569 --> 00:38:35,399 when I was watching it because you're surrounded 752 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,141 by people who look like the people you know... 753 00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:44,190 But they're not behaving the way they should be behaving. 754 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:48,151 My wife, sick. - What's wrong with her? 755 00:38:48,194 --> 00:38:50,327 She wrong. 756 00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,590 And the idea that, in the midst of investigating 757 00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:54,636 this phenomenon, you get caught up in it... 758 00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:57,465 Somehow today, I felt everything had changed. 759 00:38:57,508 --> 00:38:58,596 People were different. 760 00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,902 It's like there's some kind 761 00:38:59,945 --> 00:39:01,947 of a hallucinatory flu going around. 762 00:39:01,991 --> 00:39:04,733 These alien creatures, they're seed pods, 763 00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:06,517 but then they overtake your body, 764 00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,085 and they strip you of your humanity, 765 00:39:09,128 --> 00:39:11,957 and they spread from body to body to body. 766 00:39:13,785 --> 00:39:16,440 What's interesting about this one is, 767 00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,137 most horror movies, 768 00:39:18,181 --> 00:39:21,314 if they don't end happily, they end satisfyingly, 769 00:39:21,358 --> 00:39:24,013 in a way where you've vanquished the creature, 770 00:39:24,056 --> 00:39:27,233 you've come out the end of a really rough struggle, 771 00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:28,757 and you come out, and you're okay. 772 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,062 In this case, 773 00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:32,413 it's very cynical and very bleak. 774 00:39:32,456 --> 00:39:34,023 Donald Sutherland, 775 00:39:34,066 --> 00:39:35,653 who you've been on this journey with throughout, 776 00:39:35,677 --> 00:39:38,288 he's just a guy, he's just a guy, 777 00:39:38,331 --> 00:39:39,942 and he's just trying to hang on to life, 778 00:39:39,985 --> 00:39:41,223 and he's just trying to hang on 779 00:39:41,247 --> 00:39:42,553 to the people he cares about. 780 00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:44,163 It's just the brute will to survive 781 00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:47,558 that's getting him through, and he's lost everything. 782 00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:49,560 And you sort of fade out, 783 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:51,170 and you come back in that ending, 784 00:39:51,214 --> 00:39:53,390 and what's amazing about it is it's so inevitable, 785 00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,174 the way it goes, 786 00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:58,787 and yet you've been so primed emotionally that you're like, 787 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,093 "I can see this guy. I can see this guy doing this. 788 00:40:01,137 --> 00:40:03,182 "I can see him just faking it, 789 00:40:03,226 --> 00:40:06,359 to ride it out till he can figure out a way out of this." 790 00:40:06,403 --> 00:40:08,971 And then Veronica Cartwright shows up. 791 00:40:09,014 --> 00:40:11,190 Matthew. 792 00:40:11,234 --> 00:40:12,690 She's all sort of sweaty, and anxious, 793 00:40:12,714 --> 00:40:14,498 and trying to keep cool. 794 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:15,847 You're actually, for a while, 795 00:40:15,891 --> 00:40:17,980 worried that she's gonna blow it for him... 796 00:40:21,636 --> 00:40:24,073 Which is incredible, and then that moment. 797 00:40:26,597 --> 00:40:29,513 No, no! 798 00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:31,384 No! 799 00:40:31,428 --> 00:40:33,604 That moment would shatter you no matter what. 800 00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:35,693 There's something about Sutherland, 801 00:40:35,737 --> 00:40:37,826 that look and the finger point, 802 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:41,220 and then starts making that noise. 803 00:40:41,264 --> 00:40:43,396 It's just gut-wrenching. 804 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,835 I can close my eyes and still see Donald Sutherland 805 00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,750 turn around, and open his mouth, 806 00:40:48,793 --> 00:40:51,274 and let out that horrible sound 807 00:40:51,317 --> 00:40:53,537 that made us recognize he was gone. 808 00:40:53,581 --> 00:40:55,452 He's not the same guy. 809 00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:57,280 He's not our protagonist anymore. 810 00:40:57,323 --> 00:40:58,890 He's lost. 811 00:40:58,934 --> 00:41:01,414 Because then, if he's gone, we're all gone. 812 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,727 Hey Scotty, what's this place like, anyway? 813 00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:12,556 Well, the guy that's renting it says it's an old place. 814 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,123 A little run down, 815 00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:16,255 but it's right up in the mountains. 816 00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:18,388 I saw the original "Evil Dead." 817 00:41:18,431 --> 00:41:20,303 I'll never forget, the poster said, 818 00:41:20,346 --> 00:41:23,001 "'The most ferociously original horror film 819 00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:25,569 of the year, ' Stephen King." 820 00:41:25,613 --> 00:41:28,746 So I was like, well, I gotta go see this movie. 821 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,574 If "Night of the Living Dead" 822 00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:34,056 is the beginning of the zombie era, 823 00:41:34,099 --> 00:41:35,579 "The Evil Dead" is the first movie 824 00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:38,887 to sort of domesticate it 825 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:41,846 and make it into a story about young people 826 00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,456 who go into the woods, 827 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:44,869 and they don't come out of the woods. 828 00:41:44,893 --> 00:41:46,547 We've had a lot of stories like that, 829 00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:50,638 but this one was especially brutal 830 00:41:50,681 --> 00:41:52,596 and well told. 831 00:41:55,686 --> 00:41:57,862 The location, the atmosphere, 832 00:41:57,906 --> 00:41:59,647 the crazy camera angles, 833 00:41:59,690 --> 00:42:02,475 where that thing out of nothing is chasing you, 834 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:03,801 but it's just the camera-- I mean, 835 00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:05,391 that had never been done before, 836 00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:08,481 and the camera itself was used as a tool for terror. 837 00:42:08,525 --> 00:42:11,136 And that was so exciting, and something really new, 838 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:12,616 and something that they brought 839 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:15,488 to the genre with that. 840 00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:17,229 I mean, it terrified me when I was young. 841 00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:18,579 It still-- like, now I can-- 842 00:42:18,622 --> 00:42:20,015 there are parts that I still laugh, 843 00:42:20,058 --> 00:42:21,906 but the scene where she's predicting the cards... 844 00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:24,236 My God, seven of hearts! You're right! 845 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,891 Hey, Ash, I guessed the card right! 846 00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,763 Yeah, truly amazing. 847 00:42:28,806 --> 00:42:31,026 That whole sequence still scares the shit out of me. 848 00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:32,636 It's a seven. 849 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,682 I think some of the best horror scenes, 850 00:42:34,725 --> 00:42:36,181 at least the ones you remember the most, 851 00:42:36,205 --> 00:42:37,641 they start in a good mood. 852 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:39,817 Everybody's, like, having a good time. 853 00:42:39,861 --> 00:42:42,820 So after you've been a little bit oppressed by the movie, 854 00:42:42,864 --> 00:42:44,822 and you had a bunch of suspenseful scenes, 855 00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:47,782 you're like, "Finally I can relax." 856 00:42:47,825 --> 00:42:51,829 Four of hearts. Eight of spades. 857 00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:53,851 And then Cheryl starts saying-- guessing the cards. 858 00:42:53,875 --> 00:42:55,833 They look at each other. 859 00:42:55,877 --> 00:42:57,356 She finally-- bang! 860 00:43:00,751 --> 00:43:03,493 Why have you disturbed our sleep? 861 00:43:03,536 --> 00:43:06,888 Awakened us from our ancient slumber? 862 00:43:06,931 --> 00:43:10,805 I had never seen a demon movie like that. 863 00:43:10,848 --> 00:43:12,850 That movie fucked me up. 864 00:43:12,894 --> 00:43:15,679 If we had to talk about iconic scenes, 865 00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:17,376 the scene that I always remember 866 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:20,379 is the pencil going through the ankle. 867 00:43:26,472 --> 00:43:28,910 It was real mind-blowing also how much humor 868 00:43:28,953 --> 00:43:31,477 was contained in the violence. 869 00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:39,877 And a lot of the violence 870 00:43:39,921 --> 00:43:42,924 was the one-man show that is Bruce Campbell. 871 00:43:42,967 --> 00:43:44,316 You bastard. 872 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,189 Why are you torturing me like this? Why? 873 00:43:47,232 --> 00:43:49,408 He's just the heart and soul of that film, 874 00:43:49,452 --> 00:43:51,454 and you can see he threw himself 875 00:43:51,497 --> 00:43:53,761 literally into the part, 876 00:43:53,804 --> 00:43:57,634 you know, many times, over and over again. 877 00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:01,159 You get a sense that at no time on that set 878 00:44:01,203 --> 00:44:04,902 did anyone go, "I don't know, it's a little too much." 879 00:44:04,946 --> 00:44:08,514 It's just pedal to the metal all the way. 880 00:44:10,168 --> 00:44:12,127 No, God! 881 00:44:18,089 --> 00:44:22,093 When there is no more room in hell, 882 00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:25,401 the dead will walk the earth. 883 00:44:25,444 --> 00:44:27,795 I'm not one of those fans that hates remakes. 884 00:44:27,838 --> 00:44:30,238 I understand, because I worked at a studio, why they do them. 885 00:44:30,275 --> 00:44:32,016 It's because they're brand recognition. 886 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:34,932 And with "Dawn of the Dead," I thought that Zack Snyder 887 00:44:34,976 --> 00:44:36,760 brought the fast zombies to life 888 00:44:36,804 --> 00:44:38,719 in a way that I hadn't seen yet before. 889 00:44:38,762 --> 00:44:41,330 And it was that opening scene. 890 00:44:41,373 --> 00:44:42,984 You meet Sarah Polley's character. 891 00:44:43,027 --> 00:44:44,725 Calm before the storm. 892 00:44:44,768 --> 00:44:48,337 Little hints that there is something amiss. 893 00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:49,904 Why did Dr. Cho order a head X-ray 894 00:44:49,947 --> 00:44:51,427 when the man was bitten on the hand? 895 00:44:53,821 --> 00:44:55,736 But then she goes home. 896 00:44:55,779 --> 00:44:57,738 You know, they have sexy times in the shower, 897 00:44:57,781 --> 00:44:59,870 and they go to bed, and then they wake up. 898 00:44:59,914 --> 00:45:01,567 And what I love about the opening scene 899 00:45:01,611 --> 00:45:03,004 of "Dawn of the Dead" 900 00:45:03,047 --> 00:45:05,920 is that it's totally fine to have the neighbor's kid 901 00:45:05,963 --> 00:45:09,924 come over to your house and wake you up in the morning. 902 00:45:09,967 --> 00:45:12,622 Vivian's here. Vivian, honey. 903 00:45:12,665 --> 00:45:14,493 Sweetie, are you okay? 904 00:45:14,537 --> 00:45:16,321 Not how did this kid get into our house, 905 00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:18,976 but is she okay? 906 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,804 Lock your doors, man. 907 00:45:20,848 --> 00:45:23,154 And then we see this incredible makeup 908 00:45:23,198 --> 00:45:25,722 of this girl who's missing part of her face. 909 00:45:27,463 --> 00:45:29,117 I mean, she is rabid, 910 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,250 and it's so fun to watch, and it's so shocking. 911 00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:34,644 Vivian! 912 00:45:34,687 --> 00:45:36,646 Zack Snyder was not afraid 913 00:45:36,689 --> 00:45:39,475 to go with full-on Romero flesh tear. 914 00:45:43,305 --> 00:45:45,481 Your flesh is just Play-Doh, 915 00:45:45,524 --> 00:45:48,353 and you can tear it, and blood will spray. 916 00:45:48,397 --> 00:45:50,834 And it's got a terrific stunt in it too. 917 00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:53,054 She backs up, and she slams into the bathtub, 918 00:45:53,097 --> 00:45:54,446 and hits her head on the back, 919 00:45:54,490 --> 00:45:56,100 and brings down the shower curtain. 920 00:45:56,144 --> 00:45:59,669 That's great stuff. That's good cinema. 921 00:45:59,712 --> 00:46:02,237 And then all of a sudden, he breaks through the door. 922 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,848 Very "Here's Johnny" moment. 923 00:46:04,892 --> 00:46:06,894 But he's a full-on zombie at that point, 924 00:46:06,937 --> 00:46:09,200 and she has to burst through the window to get out. 925 00:46:09,244 --> 00:46:11,246 And the whole time, we're with Sarah Polley 926 00:46:11,289 --> 00:46:12,551 trying to figure out, 927 00:46:12,595 --> 00:46:14,336 what would you do in this situation? 928 00:46:14,379 --> 00:46:16,251 Not only is she trying to survive zombies, 929 00:46:16,294 --> 00:46:18,906 she's also trying to survive what people are doing. 930 00:46:18,949 --> 00:46:21,909 Help! - Get back, Ana. 931 00:46:21,952 --> 00:46:24,868 So one thing we know from zombie movies is people fail. 932 00:46:26,957 --> 00:46:28,524 We fail as a civilization. 933 00:46:28,567 --> 00:46:30,526 We do not help each other in any way. 934 00:46:30,569 --> 00:46:32,112 And it's just Sarah Polley having to, like, 935 00:46:32,136 --> 00:46:35,400 run for her life while trying to process what's going on. 936 00:46:35,444 --> 00:46:37,011 And the whole place is chaos, 937 00:46:37,054 --> 00:46:39,578 and it's just completely apocalyptic. 938 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:41,450 And you're seeing it from her point of view. 939 00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:43,732 You're seeing people fleeing. You're seeing stuff on fire. 940 00:46:43,756 --> 00:46:45,454 It's phenomenal. 941 00:46:45,497 --> 00:46:47,543 Just builds to this incredible crescendo 942 00:46:47,586 --> 00:46:49,632 until finally, we're escaping in a car. 943 00:46:52,940 --> 00:46:55,812 And then the camera pulls up, and up, and up, and up, 944 00:46:55,856 --> 00:46:57,945 and you realize this is happening everywhere. 945 00:46:57,988 --> 00:46:59,903 And then you're like, yeah, right, 946 00:46:59,947 --> 00:47:01,600 I haven't even seen the credits yet. 947 00:47:04,821 --> 00:47:06,083 You're just in it. 948 00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:07,955 You're living that moment 949 00:47:07,998 --> 00:47:12,263 and doing things that Romero probably yearned to do 950 00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:15,223 and probably wanted the toys for, 951 00:47:15,266 --> 00:47:17,225 to be able to execute that kind 952 00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,096 of zombie apocalypse beginning, you know? 953 00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:20,924 It works so well. 954 00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:25,624 That opening scene is a movie unto itself. 955 00:47:28,497 --> 00:47:31,195 If I had paid 10 bucks, gone into a movie theater, 956 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,303 and watched that ten-minute film, 957 00:47:32,327 --> 00:47:33,458 I would have been like, 958 00:47:33,502 --> 00:47:36,679 "A little short, but pretty goddamn good." 959 00:47:36,722 --> 00:47:38,855 I think there's a feeling-- 960 00:47:38,899 --> 00:47:40,944 and it's probably even stronger since the pandemic-- 961 00:47:40,988 --> 00:47:44,295 but that for all the law and order around us, 962 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:45,688 we're always that close... 963 00:47:45,731 --> 00:47:49,474 Say something. - Please. 964 00:47:49,518 --> 00:47:50,736 To something apocalyptic 965 00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,434 just messing up the whole thing. 966 00:47:52,477 --> 00:47:53,957 And I think that every time you think 967 00:47:54,001 --> 00:47:55,437 of the idea of society, 968 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,091 there's part of us that thinks, 969 00:47:57,134 --> 00:47:58,982 "At which point does it end? What does it take?" 970 00:47:59,006 --> 00:48:00,877 And I don't know why that's fun, 971 00:48:00,921 --> 00:48:02,721 but I guess that's why we watch horror movies. 972 00:48:05,403 --> 00:48:08,102 Fear of chaos. 973 00:48:08,145 --> 00:48:09,842 We're always that close to chaos. 74676

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