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(Anchor) Port Elizabeth serial
killer, Stewart "Boetie Boer" Wilken
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has been handed
seven life imprisonment sentences.
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Wilken was found guilty on
seven murder charges
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and two of sodomy last week.
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(Brett) Suddenly we had
a serial killer.
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The likes of a Station Strangler,
or an ABC Killer.
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His name was
Stewart "Boetie Boer" Wilken.
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And his crimes were just as bad,
if not worse.
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(Sidney) He had a very
intimidating presence about him.
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He looked the part.
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(Roslyn) He has learned the language.
He has learned the slang.
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And in that way he
could mask who he actually was.
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(ominous music)
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(ominous music)
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(Gérard) My name is
Gérard Labuschagne.
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I'm a clinical
psychologist by training.
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But I spent fourteen
and a half years as the head of
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the South African Police's
Investigative Psychology Section.
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This section essentially provides
the same kind of services
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as the FBI's
behavioural analysis units.
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So,
essentially profiling violent crime.
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A lot of work has to do with serial
murder cases, serial rape cases.
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And typically your
more unusual types of cases
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that a detective might not have
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necessarily encountered
in their career.
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In about 2006 a colleague and myself,
Lieutenant Colonel Jan de Lange,
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decided to go down
and interview Stewart Wilken,
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who by that stage had been in prison
for almost about 10 years.
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Of course he doesn't have to
worry necessarily about
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the consequences of
whatever he tells you.
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So we might get maybe a more honest
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or perhaps better to say,
a more comprehensive account
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of what actually occurred
with his crimes,
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and his motivation for his crimes.
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(dramatic music)
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-(electric gate buzzing)
-(metal hinges squeaking)
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(Gérard) You look at
his horrific deeds. You--
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Your brain goes to those places
where you visualize this monster.
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(Gérard) And I suppose as
a clinical psychologist
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that wide range of
pathological behaviour,
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I guess, just definitely attracted
me to his particular case.
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(Gérard) So essentially what
we had is a white,
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Afrikaans speaking
South African male.
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He had been convicted of
killing seven people,
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although he confessed to numerous
more in his written confession.
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And he was basically serving
multiple life sentences
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at that particular point in time
at a private maximum security prison
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in Bloemfontein, South Africa.
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(tape cassette player whirring)
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(ominous music)
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(light-hearted music)
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♪ Beware of the wolves my baby ♪
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♪ They're spying for love ♪
♪ From the porch tonight ♪
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♪ And as the light begins to dim ♪
♪ They'll start the skinning ♪
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♪ Of your innocent body ♪
♪ Naked in the night ♪
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♪ So come and shine your light ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
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♪ Shine your light ♪
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(ominous music)
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(Ursula) On the 26th of
January 1997,
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I was working my standby duties.
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(pager ringing)
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(Ursula) I got a call to contact
Algoa Park police station,
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and they informed me of
an inquiry that was lying there
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of a missing child.
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(metal hinges squealing)
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That inquiry was already lying there
for two days,
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and they couldn't explain to me why.
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I saw that Henry Baker didn't go home
from the 22nd of January.
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So it's already a week that
almost passed
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before anybody actually
noticed that this child is gone.
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(Ursula) I thought,
"No, I can't leave this.
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I'm gonna go and
make inquiries immediately."
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(knocking on door)
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(Ursula) I went to
his mother's house, Ellen Baker.
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She explained to me that
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the child was last
seen with Stewart Wilken.
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And from there,
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Henry Baker has disappeared
and nobody knew where he was.
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(Roslyn) The first time
that I learned about Stewart Wilken,
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also known as "Boetie Boer",
was in the 90s.
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when I started out as a journalist,
at "Die Burger".
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I was surprised to hear that
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a white man was living
in our communities
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as if he was born and raised there.
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And that he was accepted by
the people in the communities.
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At that specific time,
where everything was--
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wasn't normal, you know, for us.
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The unemployment,
the uprising that happened.
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(crowd shouting/screaming)
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(Roslyn) And to learn that
he was married to a woman of colour,
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that was actually more surprising
because at that time,
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we didn't hear
about marriages between races.
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And people calling him
"Boetie Boer". Because "Boetie",
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is a name that you give to
somebody that is family.
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In the late 80s
and early 90s, there were
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three kinds of people
in the coloured community.
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There were the people that thought
and believed that white is right.
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There was a lot of respect for the
white person, for the white man,
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because many of them
worked for white people.
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The second group of people were those
people that would embrace everyone,
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because in the early years,
we were living together
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in harmony in South End and Salisbury
Park and Fairview and Willowdene.
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We lived together
in harmony with all races.
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And then the third group of people
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would be the
politically enlightened people,
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who would frown upon a white man
living in the northern areas
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because it's--
because of the white man
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that we live where we do live now.
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(camera shutter clicking)
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-(birds chirping)
-(dramatic music)
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(Sidney) My experience from
dealing with the fishermen is
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there was not a lot white men
at that stage.
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A large part of the local community
were your coloured community
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that worked on the boats.
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If you were to consider the smell,
the constant rolling sea,
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no proper conditions
to prepare meals.
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And if you look at
some of the fishermen
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that you had to share the space with,
you had to be a proper seaman.
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(engines chugging)
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(Sidney) It was tough to
work out there.
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But for a fisherman that had no
education, that was able to fish,
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it wasn't something strange
for a fisherman that would
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have a two-week or
a ten-day stint out on the sea
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and return and be paid 15,000
rand for those two weeks.
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Now, during the 80s, start 90s,
it was a lot of money,
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um, which made for a
lot of people to want
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to become involved in that industry.
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I spent about ten years
with the narcotics branch.
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A lot of our attention
in our workspace
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went into the issue
of dagga smuggling.
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And we had it on good authority
that there was a lot of runner boats
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during that period that made sure
that your fishermen that worked
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on those boats were sufficiently
stocked with whatever was needed to
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make you work those type of hours.
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(Interviewee) A number of people
are doing a lot of things.
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We do have drugs.
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(Reporter) Is mandrax
a big problem here?
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Well, yeah, there are people
who are selling drugs.
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(Sidney) It was an industry
within an industry.
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The boats running out to those boats
to serve them in that capacity.
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(Sidney) Mandrax obviously was a
good way to enhance the abilities of
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people that worked in these boats.
So, I can't generalise and say
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all fishermen
were using dagga and mandrax.
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There was definitely
a big enough market to
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make it worthwhile
for these boats to serve them.
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And those were the type of things
that made it bearable
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for you to be hanging over
the boats in the adverse conditions
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and make sure the quota
is fished up as quickly as possible.
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Now, if you're a user,
you stay in an environment that
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there's a lot of users,
there's prostitutes around,
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there's a lot of shebeens
where the trading of these things
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happened and suddenly
you're loaded with 15,000 rand
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and you return to your space
where you stay.
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You're gonna be the local hero.
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(sinister music)
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(camera shutter clicking)
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(crowd ululating)
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(Ursula) Those years
you really had to have a passion
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before you made a
decision to go to the police.
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And when I was little I always used
to say I want to be a policewoman.
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To see the men
have so much control, um,
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I think I wanted
a little bit of that.
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And as a female growing up,
it was difficult,
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it was difficult
living in a man's world.
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I decided that I wanna do something
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that's worth something
to someone else.
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I wanted to make sure
that children are safe.
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(inquisitive music)
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(Cherie) So I met Ursula in college,
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and when I moved to Child Protection
Unit we found each other there.
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We were partners at
Child Protection Unit
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and I absolutely
loved working with her.
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She was an
incredible investigating officer.
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And we became very,
very good friends.
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(Ursula) So, he's been gone a few
days, and the last person...
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(Cherie) She had a very great
suspicion that something is off
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and this child
might not be around anymore.
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(Michael) Twelve months ago we had a
Wilken case, a young girl--
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(Ursula) My captain,
Michael Shanagan,
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informed me that Stewart's daughter,
Wuane, was also missing,
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and they could
never find her body or anything.
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I said, "No, something is off.
It can't just be coincidence
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that two children are seen
the last time with the same person,
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and disappears."
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So, all of us actually went to search
for this previous inquiry of Wuane.
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Those years, there wasn't anything
to link computers, cases.
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It made it quite difficult. You had
to go physically to the docket store,
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go through every docket
and go and see what you can find.
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-Yes, that's it. Wuane Wilken.
-(Michael) Well done.
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(Cherie) But it came to a point
where we decided we have to bring
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the suspect by the
name of Stewart Wilken
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and they called--
His alias was "Boetie Boer",
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bring him in for questioning.
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As a white man,
you're going to be standing out
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like a sore thumb
in that community.
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(Roslyn) I think he
could fit in very well,
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because of his interactions
and his being colleagues,
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if you can say that,
with his fellow fishermen.
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He has learned the language,
he has learned the slang,
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and in that way he could mask
who he actually was.
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(suspense music)
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(knocking on door)
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(Ursula) Veronica
is Stewart's current wife.
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...with the Child Protection Unit...
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I'm here to speak to your husband,
Stewart, is he here at the moment?
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She said,
No, he's not staying here,
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but he will come back later that day,
and then she will contact me.
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(Veronica) Okay,
I'll tell him you were here.
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Have a good day. Thank you.
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(Ursula) A few hours later,
I get a call from Veronica
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to say that Stewart
is now at her house.
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(Sidney) He had a very
intimidating presence about him.
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He looked the part also.
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He looked scary
in terms of his physique.
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He wasn't kept properly.
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And considering his circumstances,
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you could understand it maybe,
but yes, no, no, he was--
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He had a scary, scary persona.
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(car door opening)
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(Ursula) So we took his statement
at that stage,
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asking him where he was
and where he gave his alibi,
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that he slept in Missionvale
the previous night
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um, at a friend's house,
called Whitey.
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The next day we went to
Whitey's house.
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I still remember it was very early,
and when I got to Whitey's house,
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Stewart was there,
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busy making porridge
and potato skins for the kids.
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(Ursula) I will never forget that
because he was quite nice
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to the kids, and he came forward
as being a nice guy.
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Just a normal guy
that really cared for kids.
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(ominous music)
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(Ursula) I left. I didn't talk to
Whitey immediately, or anyone there.
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I went back later on
to follow up with his alibi,
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and I was told that he didn't
sleep there the previous night.
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So, nothing was
making sense at that point.
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It was already eight days that
Henry was missing at this point,
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um, so we needed to arrest Stewart
to interview him further
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in regards to finding Henry.
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On the 31st of Jan, 1997,
we went back to the docks.
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Myself, Cherie Kruger
and Michael Shanagan.
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We were driving into the port when
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Stewart was busy walking out
with a bag.
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We stopped the car next to him, where
I actually read his rights to him.
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(ominous music)
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(Derrik) So my name is Derrik
Norsworthy. Born and bred PE boy.
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A former murder
and robbery detective.
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And I was the
lead investigator in '97.
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The Stewart Wilken serial killer.
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(Cherie) Derrik was at the murder
and robbery unit at that stage.
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He was very, very well known.
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He was an incredible
investigating officer.
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He actually dealt
with very high priority cases.
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So, we knew that we could trust him
to assist us with our case.
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That's why we decided to
actually approach him.
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(Derrik) So this
would have been the start of the
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CBD for the city
from basically its beginning.
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Very colonialist built.
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This taxi rank is a good memory.
Well, a funny but good memory
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because I once chased a guy
and had a shoot-out with him.
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I grew up here, central,
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close to where several of
the murders took place.
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I played in the parks
where the bodies where found.
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So, I am middle-class family,
average boy.
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Went on to a distinguished
career in the forces.
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And then left in 2006.
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(dramatic music)
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(Derrik) So,
they brought him to our office.
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What we basically set up
and planned was
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that I would sit in
the first wooden cubicle with him
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and he didn't obviously know this,
but there would be
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two other murder and robbery guys
sitting on the other side,
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as well as Ursula and Cherie.
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So if something went south or went
wrong, they could come to my aid.
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And then once he walked into
the office and sat down,
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I took my firearm out and then
went and locked it in a cabinet
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behind him, purposely,
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to show him that we weren't
antagonistic towards him.
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There's no fear
from outside to talk to him.
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We were gonna have this friendly
conversation between the two of us,
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and basically see
if we could establish
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what had taken place
with the Baker's case.
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The basic conversation started with
the warnings, which is always legal.
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He was again confident now.
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"I've got no reason.
I don't know why I'm here."
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"I don't know why everyone thinks
I did something to this poor boy.
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Blah, blah, blah. I knew him."
"I dated the mother."
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So, you know, he used facts
and he stated things which,
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by nature of this kind of
investigation
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might put you at ease that,
"I don't really know why I'm here.
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I've got nothing to hide. I'll talk
to you, whatever you wanna know."
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(eerie music)
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(Derrik) So while I was interviewing,
I had a picture of my own daughter
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in a little pink dress with these
piercing blue eyes standing staring,
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and I kept watching his face
staring up at her, you know?
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(eerie music)
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(Cherie) We were
in the office adjoining to that.
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It was actually a drywall,
so we could hear the conversation
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that was transpiring.
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He was very calm and collected. He
really seemed like an ordinary guy.
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Nothing, you know,
that would have said,
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"Oh, my goodness,
this guy is off the rails."
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It literally took hours and hours
and we were pacing up and down
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and we were anxious
and then we would think,
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"Okay, this is it.
Now he's going to admit."
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And then he would stop and he
would go into another direction.
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So, it was really
extremely nerve-wracking.
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At no point in time
while the interview was going on
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did we really know whether this guy
was going to admit to anything.
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(telephone ringing)
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(Derrik) A robbery case came in
and because I was on standby
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I had to attend, so I left the site.
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(Derrik) Listen,
I've been called into a robbery case.
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Do you mind taking over?
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(ominous music)
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(Ursula) I was sitting with Stewart
alone in the office
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while Derrik went to
attend to the scene.
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Stewart was very quiet
but looked around him all the time.
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I think we didn't
even have a metre between us.
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I still remember seeing
the tog bag but thinking
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we never actually
went through the tog bag
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and there I'm sitting alone
with Stewart in a room
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that we thought might have
murdered someone
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and I kind of felt
uncomfortable at that moment.
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It felt to me like Stewart was
looking right through me.
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I still remember he was
talking about when he was young,
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but he didn't divulge anything about
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all the bad stuff
that happened to him.
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He made it out as
if he had a very good life
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and talking about everything,
and his daughter,
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and he still mentioned that
he actually misses his daughter
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and he doesn't know why
she had to be taken from him.
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It feels like
everybody's taken from him.
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I just looked at Stewart and I'm
like, "Where's this coming from?"
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I didn't talk a lot
and I was quite confused
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because now suddenly
he began to look different to me.
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It's as if he became
a different person in that room.
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(ominous music)
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The hair that was so neatly combed,
wasn't neat anymore.
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He was going through his hair
all the time with his hands.
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He became agitated in that room,
as if something was pushing him.
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Suddenly he opened his tog bag.
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He took out a knife,
quite a big fisherman's knife.
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Then he took out a woollen beanie.
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And he is sitting with me
alone with this knife
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and he puts this beanie on his head.
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And then he said to me,
"Do you wanna see them?
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Do you wanna see their bodies?"
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(eerie music)
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(door opening)
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(Ursula) And at
that moment Derrik and them,
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I heard the guys
came back from the scene.
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So I ran out of
the office and I'm like,
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"This guy is saying,
do we want to go and see him?"
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That's when
Derrik went into the office
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and started talking to Stewart.
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(Derrik) When I walked in, I told
him I'd been trained by the FBI
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and I could see after that
his demeanour sort of changed.
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You know, he became a lot more,
"Oh, okay, okay."
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And then it was-- At one point he
got to the point where he said to me,
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"I want you to take me now to
the Elizabeth Donkin hospital
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because I'm mad. I'm insane."
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So the interview with the break had
been going on for about four hours.
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We'd provided him food, so we'd
have a bit of a chow together.
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Establishing this rapport which is
part and parcel of what we do.
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It got to the point
where I told him,
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"Listen mate, you're not going to
any mental institution
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and, you know, we've got enough
evidence at the moment against you
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to potentially detain you.
So, you know,
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your chances of going home tonight
is not gonna take place."
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So I mean, the interview changed.
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He kept on looking
up at my daughter's picture.
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At one point, he just
straightened his arms like this
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and he made his eyes like this,
and he jumped up and said,
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(tape recorder whirring)
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(Derrik) For me, it was about
making sure the process is right.
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I considered it to be
a once off opportunity.
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Evidence gathering,
in line with the law.
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Realising obviously,
this would be a high court matter
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and there was no way we would have
even attempted it without the lawyer.
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-(dogs barking)
-(birds chirping)
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(Alwyn) I'm an attorney of
the High Court of South Africa.
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During the late 90s I was
the attorney for Stewart Wilken,
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alias "Boetie Boer".
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I represent persons
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being prosecuted for
different crimes.
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I do not necessarily
defend these persons.
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I convey their defence to
the court to the best of my ability
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because they lack the knowledge
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and the know-how of
the litigation process in court.
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(telephone ringing)
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(Alwyn) I was on holiday
at the time with family of mine
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and it was...
early evening, late afternoon
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when I received a telephone call from
Warrant Officer Derrik Norsworthy.
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I took the call and I could
then immediately sense that
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something was untoward.
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I was told by Derrik that
Stewart Wilken had been picked up.
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He gave me the background as to
the child that had disappeared
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and the fact that
he was the last person seen
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in the company of the child.
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He indicated to me that they
are busy questioning Stewart Wilken,
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and that Stewart indicated that
he would like me to be present
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during the questioning.
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(Derrik) I confronted him with the
fact that we had evidence against him
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which proved
he was lying about Bakers.
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We had evidence against him with
relation to his--
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his daughter's disappearance.
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And then he looked at me and he said,
"Do you want all 12 of them?"
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So I call that my
kakking-in-the-broeks moment.
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It's that moment where
you know for the first time,
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uh,
I don't know how else to say this.
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You know why God put you in a place.
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So you go through training, things
happen to you. You get these breaks
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and it's always lekker to
have it and you think it's
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nice to be able to put it on your
wall, get certificates, but
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I don't believe God does that for--
By chance, you know?
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So you're sitting in this moment,
you know why you're here
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and we've got what we call a
"live one" sitting in front of you.
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So, at that point it's make or break.
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(Alwyn) He indicated to me that
Stewart Wilken wants to confess.
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I was flabbergasted.
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And I was then told that
he wants to go do a pointing out
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of the body of this young boy.
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(ominous music)
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(Leon) I was a state advocate
based in Port Elizabeth,
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and I was the state advocate
responsible for prosecuting the
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case against Stewart Wilken in 1998.
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It was probably the biggest case
of my career at that stage.
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I'd never come across anything like
this where you have multiple murders.
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I think the concept
of serial killer was at that stage
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relatively unknown in our country.
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It was, to an extent, overwhelming
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because it started
reaching media attention
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and I'm a person
who don't like the limelight
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but I mean, I the pressure,
but I had the benefit of having
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a strong team around me
to support me.
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(Brett) The newspapers back in those
days were the only real source of
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accurate information because the
trouble with radio and television,
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it was all controlled by the SABC
which was state controlled.
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So the newspapers played a huge
role in people's lives.
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People used to queue up outside
Newspaper House to buy newspapers
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00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,800
and I think the broader community
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relied on the Herald
and the Evening Post, as it was then,
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to get that information which
they couldn't get anywhere else.
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In 1997, when he was arrested
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it sounded like
something out of a movie.
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(sinister music)
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(Brett) Suddenly,
we had a serial killer like,
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the likes of a Station Strangler,
or an ABC Killer.
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His name was
Stewart "Boetie Boer" Wilken,
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and his crimes were just as bad,
if not worse.
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The public's perception of crimes
like what they read about
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happening in Cape
Town and Johannesburg
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were now on their doorstep,
and it was quite horrifying.
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(Veronica) The police say the cause
of death is due to strangulation.
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Most of the stories we covered
were domestic violence.
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In court,
as I heard psychologists and
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psychiatrists being
in the witness box
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they always refer to
the fact that it was low income,
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low education and things like that
that actually led to this.
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So domestic violence, child abuse,
those kind of things were really bad.
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And it actually still is,
because the media was now more open
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and we could report on everything
which we were prohibited previously.
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But when the Boetie Boer case broke,
it was on the lips of everyone.
471
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Port Elizabeth is a city,
472
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,520
but in cases like this
it becomes a small town.
473
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,800
And everybody talks about it,
and everybody asks you,
474
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,480
especially us being journalists,
"Do you know anything more?"
475
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,920
I remember some
of the reports really revealed some
476
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,720
gruesome facts that
we got from the crime reports.
477
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,400
Like women's bodies being mutilated.
478
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Having sex with the bodies
of the people that you murdered.
479
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,360
Then going back.
I remember the one body was
480
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,160
so mutilated, it was cannibalism.
People were so shocked about this.
481
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040
(ominous music)
482
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,600
(Brett) These details emerged in '97
and of course,
483
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,040
thereafter for the next year,
484
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,240
between his arrest and his conviction
and sentencing in early '98.
485
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Everyone knew "Boetie Boer".
486
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,600
(Leon) In this case,
the investigation
487
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960
was not yet totally complete.
488
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,320
I think that the first two cases
had been in the docket,
489
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,600
but there were a variety of
other cases that
490
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,000
were still being investigated
because Mr Wilken made a confession,
491
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,880
which he admitted to
a number of offences.
492
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,200
We had to go and find those cases
in the archives. Unsolved murders.
493
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,040
And so, at an early stage,
after having been assigned the case
494
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,280
I started engaging with
the head investigating officer,
495
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,080
Derrik Norsworthy.
496
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120
(Derrik) The only two victims
that were different
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00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,520
his daughter, and Henry Baker.
498
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,360
(Leon) The big challenge
obviously was
499
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
to understand how we're
going to present this evidence.
500
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,080
How we're going to
prove these offences
501
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,280
especially if everything
is placed into dispute.
502
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Some of these cases were quite old.
I had to go and visit all the scenes.
503
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Look at all the footage, photographs.
504
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,600
Interview the witnesses
that were still around.
505
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,120
It was quite a lengthy process
until we came up with
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00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,320
a final charge sheet where we were
confident and we were able to prove
507
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,800
X number of cases.
There were 10 murders that we
508
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
prosecuted Mr Wilken with,
eventually.
509
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,600
And that trial started about
a year later, after his arrest.
510
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,680
-I think it was February 1998.
-(dramatic music)
511
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(electric gate buzzing)
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00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,880
(metal hinges squeaking)
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00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,600
(Alwyn) What happened is, I explained
to Stewart Wilken at the time.
514
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,600
I said, "The evidence against you
is overwhelming.
515
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,080
Whether you receive life
on one count
516
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,800
or life on several counts,
life is life."
517
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,160
If it is your instruction that
we plead guilty to these charges
518
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,440
in order for us to place a better
picture in front of the court
519
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,240
in order for the court to understand
who and what he is dealing with
520
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,520
it would be a lot better to
have all the information
521
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,440
and place all the information
in front of court at one stage.
522
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,880
Well, the fact is, you are going to
prison. There's no way to avoid it.
523
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,560
So in light thereof, I asked
Boetie Boer to tell me what happened,
524
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,880
when did it happen,
how did it happen,
525
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,120
what took place
and he volunteered the information.
526
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,640
It was not as if I
had to drag anything from him.
527
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,720
He sat there as if he was very proud
528
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,520
uh,
telling me these things that he did.
529
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,200
It's difficult to be objective.
If you sit across a person
530
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,800
and this person is relaying to you
how he committed murders,
531
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:19,720
and it is clear that there's--
there's no remorse.
532
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:28,520
He relayed the information to me
as if the world owed him.
533
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Whatever happened
was not as a result of him.
534
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
He is the victim.
535
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,120
And everybody needs to see him
as the victim
536
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,200
and see him in that light as well.
537
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Even when speaking about
the murders that he committed
538
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:54,560
he would try and convey the message,
539
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,160
"It would never have happened
540
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,720
if such and such and such,
did not happen to me."
541
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,440
(tape cassette player whirring)
542
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,160
(sombre music)
543
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,920
(Gérard) The reason why I wanted to
go see Stewart is his case
544
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,240
was very different to the average
South African serial murderers.
545
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,320
So Stewart was unique in
the sense that he was a white male
546
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
and he had targeted literally
just about every kind of group
547
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,240
of category of people
we had in South Africa.
548
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,800
He targeted adult sex workers,
coloured and black.
549
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,680
The sex workers were female. He had
black street children who were boys.
550
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,240
And then in terms of the activities,
we had paedophilia cannibalism,
551
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:09,920
necrophilia, incest, and
that's just such a wide spectrum.
552
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,720
You know, the necrophilia is not a
very common thing amongst all
553
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,040
murder series, even internationally.
554
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,760
You know, I had a few cases
in South Africa that
555
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,840
had cannibalism as an element.
But it was very, very rare.
556
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,160
You know, often when you meet
these people you only know them
557
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,120
through the crimes they've committed.
So of course you're gonna build up
558
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,960
this image that they're
these horrific monsters
559
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,640
and that is a portion of who they are
if you look at what they've done.
560
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,160
So your other 99.9999 recurring
percent of this person's life
561
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,880
he's doing the things that
everybody else is doing.
562
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,440
You know, working, fighting.
I mean, not necessarily good things
563
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,040
but he's doing the things that the
majority of the population are doing.
564
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,680
Going to the toilet,
trying to get food.
565
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,560
So we have far more in common
with these offenders.
566
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Yet we tend to sort of, only try
intentionally or unintentionally
567
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,360
formulate our understanding of them
through the crimes they've committed.
568
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,760
So whenever you do meet them,
it's not what you expect.
569
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,640
(tender music)
570
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,800
(Gérard) It doesn't look like
this monster that
571
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,960
you've built up in your mind.
They are more relatable than not
572
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,560
and which is typically
why people say,
573
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680
"I can't believe that
so-and-so was arrested.
574
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
They've got the wrong person."
575
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,920
You know, until that individual
starts to confess and point out
576
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,720
all the crimes he's committed.
577
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,280
So I think part of what makes
serial murder so terrifying
578
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,200
is that it's literally the person
next door, that you've worked with
579
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,800
for however many years,
who was your neighbour,
580
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,880
you might have even dated at some
point, who is the serial murderer.
581
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,560
And that's what's so scary,
how do you differentiate from them?
582
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Because in their normal life,
they look exactly like us.
583
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,000
It's only through their crimes that
they're so different to us.
584
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,560
(indistinct shouting in distance)
585
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,480
(Gérard) What we do know is,
he was born in November 1964.
586
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Then at some point,
the mother and her partner
587
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,600
relocated to Port Elizabeth.
588
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,920
And it's here in Port Elizabeth
where Stewart Wilken and his sister
589
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,840
are allegedly abandoned
and literally found,
590
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,160
by the first home that
takes them in, in a telephone booth.
591
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,560
But sadly, according to Stewart
the Du Plessis aren't motivated by
592
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,480
the altruistic need to help
children who have been abandoned.
593
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,240
They're motivated by the financial
grants that they're getting from
594
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,680
the government for
looking after foster kids.
595
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,840
So, it's not a happy life.
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