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(eerie, tinny child
piano music)
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(choral voices chanting)
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(moves to fuller
piano music)
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- American monster movies
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are popular almost
everywhere in the world.
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Tonight your guide for
this rare odyssey
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is the rising star of horror,
a real little terror.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
here's Chucky!
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- It's showtime.
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Where the hell's Andy?
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Did you miss me, Andy?
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Andy, snap out of it!
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You act like you've never
seen a dead body before!
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- I never saw a doll
like you before.
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- Amazing, isn't it?
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(man groans)
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I don't have a problem
with killing.
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(Chucky screaming)
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- Chucky did it.
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- What are you
talking about?!
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- Just stay away
from that doll!
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- it's just a doll.
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- Prove that it's
just a doll.
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- Say something, dammit!
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- How's it hanging, Phil?
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Presto, you're dead.
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- You're dead.
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- No, you are.
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- No, you're dead,
we killed you!
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- You just can't keep
a good guy down.
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I am Chucky, the
killer doll!
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And I dig it!
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(thunder rumbling)
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(Chucky laughing
manically)
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(eerie, tinkling music
box xylophone music)
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(ascending harp music)
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(moves to enchanting,
eccentric full orchestral
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(paper scrapes)
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(equipment rattles)
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- [Kyra] So can you take
me back to the beginning
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of when all of
this started?
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- You know, I was a
horror fan all my life.
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I wrote the first script when
I was a student at UCLA.
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And I was really inspired
by the horror movies
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that I grew up
on as a kid.
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I especially loved
Brian De Palma movies,
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like "Carrie" and "Dressed
to Kill," and "The Fury."
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So I gravitated to writing
'cause it was cheaper.
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You know, so it's just
the cost of paper,
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and in those days
a typewriter.
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This was like before
computers. Can you believe
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- For a while there in the
early '80s, every weekend,
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a new slasher movie
was opening up.
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It was just such
a flood of them.
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- When the first "Nightmare
on Elm Street" came out,
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and it was in 1984, it was
very unusual to have a hero,
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be a villain like
Freddy Krueger,
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who was disfigured
and evil.
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It was a new kind
of horror figure.
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It was a relatable horror
figure. It wasn't a monster.
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It wasn't somebody
grunting, and groaning,
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and coming and
breaking in.
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He was a guy, and
he had an attitude.
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He liked you, you know, he
sort of made you feel
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And there was something
about those elements
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that draws the
audience in.
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- Oh, you know, that was
back in the time when
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the killers in movies
had personalities.
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You know what I mean?
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They became
like the hero,
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but there was like
a shape shifter,
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'cause it was also
the comic relief.
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- The sense of
humor is huge.
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The fact that he had
humor to his malice.
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- That's back when
Freddy Krueger was like,
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"Welcome to prime
time, bitch!"
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And so those kind of
characters found themselves
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as really the staple
of the movie.
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It wasn't about the
teen, the teenage kids,
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and it wasn't about
the heroine.
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Those movies were
about the villain.
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- It paved the way for other
anti-heroes who you hated
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and were afraid of, but you
also were attracted to them.
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And it did, it paved
the way for a Chucky.
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- Well, what happened was
my wife and I, Liz had been
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in England, in London.
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And I bought a
book called
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"The Victorian
Dollhouse Murders."
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Because the idea of dolls
coming to life scared me
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to death when I was a
little kid, Talking Tina
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from "Twilight Zone."
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And when I came back, I gave
her the book and I said,
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"I would love to do
something with dolls."
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And she said, "Well, there
actually was this screenplay
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that came out about six
months ago called "Blood
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But it had been passed
on by the studios.
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I said, "I'm curious
to read it."
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I had done "An
American Tail."
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For my next project. I wanted
to do something scary.
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And she gave it to me,
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and I really liked the
overall idea of it.
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A great idea,
Don's concept
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of a doll that
is programmed
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by Madison Avenue
to come to life.
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- On Madison Avenue,
they refer to children
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as consumer trainees.
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And so like training
children to want things
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that they don't need and
become compulsive buyers.
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And then in the
midst of the '80s
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and Cabbage Patch Dolls
had just come out.
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They were this
huge craze.
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And I realized that the
whole living doll trope
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in the horror genre, I
had seen Talking Tina
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on the "Twilight Zone."
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I had seen "Magic"
with Anthony Hopkins.
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But I realized that
no one had ever done
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the living doll thing as
a full fledged feature
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where you treat the
doll as a character who
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can actually emote and you
can give him pages of
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And "Gremlins" had
just come out.
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So it's like with
"Gremlins," I realized
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that animatronic effects
had gotten to a point
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where they were
sophisticated enough
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that the puppets could
actually emote.
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So sort of all these
ideas came together,
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and out came the
first Chucky script.
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(typewriter
keys clacking)
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- The veteran slashers
like Freddy, and Jason,
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and Michael Myers were
getting a little tired by
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- Don came to my
office and we met,
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and I got the rights
to the script.
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- He had at the time,
a deal at Disney.
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And so he had an office
on the Disney lot.
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And I'm like 20 or 21, and
so it was a really big deal
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to have someone who
was established
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and had done such big
work, take an interest
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in what I had written and
support it and get it going.
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- The slasher genre was ready
for a burst of new blood,
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and Chucky supplied
that in spades in 1988,
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with the release
of "Child's Play."
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- And did some work on my
own on some ideas for it,
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because there wasn't,
there wasn't
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the "Frankenstein"
moment in it.
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There wasn't the moment that
brought the creature to
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(thunder crashes)
- He just, he was a doll
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that had blood in
him, not real blood,
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but you could be
its blood buddy.
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I felt very strongly
that there should
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be something very
different about this.
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And so the story starts
off in the original
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with a murderer, Brad Dourif,
running through the streets
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and the police
are chasing him.
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And he takes refuge
in a toy store.
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- And he's shot by a
police detective.
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But before he dies, he does
this arcane voodoo ritual
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that takes his spirit and
puts it into this inanimate
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- That's really what brought
the creature to life.
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(man screams)
(thunder crashes)
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The name was
very important.
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In Don's script
it was Buddy.
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For me, the men that
truly haunted my childhood
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were James Earl Ray who
shot Martin Luther King,
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Lee Harvey Oswald,
and Charles Manson.
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So Charles Lee Ray are
all three of those names.
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And I don't know if
you know that. Yeah.
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And from there his
friends called him Chucky.
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
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and I'm your friend till
the end, Hidey-ho! (laughs)
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(Karen laughs)
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- We follow young
Andy Barclay who's
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a lonely kid living
with a single mom.
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And he wants a
Good Guys doll,
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'cause it's the rage
in toys that year.
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And Andy's mom buys
that doll for Andy.
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And pretty soon Andy
has a new best friend,
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but it's not the kind of
best friend that you want.
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It's more of his
worst friend.
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(latch clicks)
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
wanna play?
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(Karen screams)
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(doll thuds)
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- For my presentation what
I had done are sketches
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of what I thought
Chucky would look like,
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I mean in fierce form.
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You know, they all have kind
of like jumpers or overalls.
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What I did was I took
elements of childhood
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like a little kid's
baseball bat,
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things that are overall
innocuous to murder.
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That kind of became an
important signature piece for
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for that clothing and the
colors that go with that.
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The My Buddy doll that
Don spoke of had red hair.
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- In fairy tales, the
archetype of some,
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you know, redheads evil,
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you know, and that's partly
why Chucky has red hair.
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I mean, it's just, it's
silly and ridiculous.
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And of course, we
know redheads are
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the nicest people
in the world,
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but in fairy tales they
are harbingers of evil.
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- The more important
part was turning
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this kind of benign
doll that could be seen
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on the shelf at
ToysRUs or something,
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and what it would look like
when the monster came out.
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- I said talk
to me, dammit,
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or else I'm gonna throw
you in the fire!
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- You stupid bitch!
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You filthy slut!
(Karen screams)
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- In those shots, he
kind of changed from
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the mop-haired guy to a
bit of a receding hairline.
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A lot of Jack Nicholson
honestly was my inspiration
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from "The Shining"
for that face.
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(intense, ominous
orchestral music)
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- I can't think of a
thing to say. Fuck it.
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- Chucky's very famous.
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- Chucky's so famous.
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Chucky's the most famous
thing you've done, right?
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- Yeah, but I'm
nowhere near
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the star Chucky is.
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- I was, you know, a
huge fan of his even
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just starting as a
kid, growing up,
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"One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest."
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I was a freshman at Columbia
University, 18 years old,
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and he was teaching an
acting class there,
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and I audited the
acting class. (laughs)
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And then he coincidentally
ended up playing
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this character
that I created.
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I didn't cast him, Tom
Holland, who was the
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of the first
movie, cast Brad.
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- [Kyra] What was it
like to switch from,
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you know, acting
to voice acting?
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- It's the same
thing, really.
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You get innately into how
to work with a microphone.
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After a while you just
kind of fall into it.
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- So much of that
character is the voice.
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And you can tell that he
seems to be having fun
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as a little doll
that came to life.
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You know, like, okay,
I'm stuck with this,
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but I'm gonna
have fun with it.
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- It's really fun and
inspiring to work with him.
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The thing about Brad is
he does not condescend
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to this at all.
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Brad like approaches this
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as like, "Where is
he coming from?"
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I mean, he doesn't
literally say,
244
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"What is Chucky's
motivation?"
245
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But we do, we talk
about it in the way
246
00:12:10,215 --> 00:12:12,216
that I do with any
character, any other actor.
247
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And we're thinking, what
is the subtext here?
248
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- There's something really
fun about being the villain.
249
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That weird motivation
of I want to hurt.
250
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I don't care
who I step on,
251
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this is what I want
and I'm going to,
252
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and I'm going to get it.
253
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There's something
sort of weird
254
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and pure about
that motivation.
255
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It's kind of
fun. (laughs)
256
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Which is even
really scarier.
257
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That's the scary part.
258
00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:39,043
I mean, I think it's finding
the truth in yourself
259
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about your own
emotions and feelings,
260
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and the elements
that lead you there.
261
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You can give yourself
262
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a million different reasons
why you behave the way you
263
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It's justification
for you.
264
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You find a justification
in your own evil.
265
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- Acting is intention.
266
00:12:53,925 --> 00:12:57,028
And you know, all of
us have a sort of
267
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a really violent heart.
268
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I mean we're all killers.
There's no such thing as
269
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All evil is
just humanity.
270
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It's unacceptable, but
it's still human.
271
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- I think we create a
scenario for ourselves
272
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that enables us to carry
out something horrible.
273
00:13:17,149 --> 00:13:19,317
- You know, history
is replete
274
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with horrible acts of
violence, and cruelty.
275
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And we all are capable.
276
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I think we like to
call things evil,
277
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because we like to pretend
that we're not, but we are.
278
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(intense, ominous music)
279
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(Chucky laughs maniacally)
(thunder crashes)
280
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- He works at it hard,
281
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and so that's, I really
appreciate that.
282
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- So when you're playing
something like that,
283
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you're just using that
part of yourself.
284
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You don't actually kill
anybody, but you do intend
285
00:13:54,051 --> 00:13:56,186
- [Chucky] Give me the
boy and I'll let you live!
286
00:13:56,187 --> 00:13:59,989
Do you hear me? Give
me the boy! (screams)
287
00:13:59,990 --> 00:14:01,392
- I've never been
afraid of the doll,
288
00:14:02,693 --> 00:14:04,227
and I'm not
afraid of Brad.
289
00:14:04,228 --> 00:14:09,232
- When I met Alex, he
was six, I was 25.
290
00:14:09,233 --> 00:14:12,902
It's just a weird context
to meet some, you know,
291
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to meet a child in a
professional context
292
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where you're colleagues.
293
00:14:18,376 --> 00:14:20,977
- I don't remember much
else about being six,
294
00:14:20,978 --> 00:14:21,912
but I remember
being in the film.
295
00:14:21,913 --> 00:14:24,080
And I remember a
lot of things
296
00:14:24,081 --> 00:14:26,149
about making it and
behind the scenes.
297
00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:28,385
- He was you know, just
this little like actor,
298
00:14:28,386 --> 00:14:32,122
who sometimes felt like
my boss in a weird way.
299
00:14:32,123 --> 00:14:34,924
- I mean, being
a child actor
300
00:14:34,925 --> 00:14:39,129
is an interesting
situation for sure.
301
00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:41,197
'Cause you're given a lot of
the responsibility of an
302
00:14:41,198 --> 00:14:42,932
- He never directed me
when I was younger.
303
00:14:42,933 --> 00:14:44,100
He was just the writer.
304
00:14:44,101 --> 00:14:46,169
I idolized Don
when I was a kid.
305
00:14:46,170 --> 00:14:48,838
- In addition to
being a good actor,
306
00:14:48,839 --> 00:14:50,940
he's a really smart guy.
307
00:14:50,941 --> 00:14:52,108
- And I was a bright kid.
308
00:14:52,109 --> 00:14:54,210
I wasn't like a kid
that was just like,
309
00:14:54,211 --> 00:14:56,279
"Okay, get in front of the
camera, Johnny, and now do
310
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I had the entire
script memorized.
311
00:14:58,249 --> 00:15:00,049
I knew everybody's
lines, all my lines,
312
00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:01,317
all everybody
else's lines.
313
00:15:01,318 --> 00:15:03,920
- It's just so funny
seeing a seven-year-old,
314
00:15:03,921 --> 00:15:05,155
like "We need to go
over this scene.
315
00:15:05,156 --> 00:15:07,023
I don't like like
this dialogue.
316
00:15:07,024 --> 00:15:09,225
I don't know if this
line works." (laughs)
317
00:15:09,226 --> 00:15:10,493
- There's just
something really funny
318
00:15:10,494 --> 00:15:14,864
about a child cursing too,
(laughs) that's so
319
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But when he's like.
320
00:15:17,001 --> 00:15:19,169
- He said, Aunt Maggie
was a real bitch,
321
00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:21,171
and got what
she deserved.
322
00:15:21,172 --> 00:15:23,139
- I showed it to my boyfriend
for the first time.
323
00:15:23,140 --> 00:15:24,174
He was like, "Why is
that kid saying that?"
324
00:15:24,175 --> 00:15:26,910
I'm like, "It's not
him, it's the doll!
325
00:15:26,911 --> 00:15:28,978
It's Chucky. It's
not his fault!"
326
00:15:28,979 --> 00:15:30,847
- I had never seen
anything like that.
327
00:15:30,848 --> 00:15:34,083
And anytime a
movie uses a kid,
328
00:15:34,084 --> 00:15:37,053
I am on another level
of frightened.
329
00:15:37,054 --> 00:15:40,056
- By day children
imagine and pretend.
330
00:15:40,057 --> 00:15:42,224
By night children have the
darkest of imaginations.
331
00:15:42,225 --> 00:15:43,892
- That's kind of one
of the cool things
332
00:15:43,893 --> 00:15:45,227
about having a
child actor,
333
00:15:45,228 --> 00:15:48,030
like, especially in
"Child's Play," you know?
334
00:15:48,031 --> 00:15:50,232
Because there is that
sort of innocence
335
00:15:50,233 --> 00:15:53,001
and that quality of they're
not putting on a front.
336
00:15:53,002 --> 00:15:56,004
They're not putting on
a certain demeanor.
337
00:15:56,005 --> 00:15:58,373
They're just being
very truthful.
338
00:15:58,374 --> 00:16:00,442
- You know, the beauty
and then the dark side
339
00:16:00,443 --> 00:16:04,246
of what the character goes
through, loss, separation.
340
00:16:04,247 --> 00:16:07,049
It's an important
part of childhood.
341
00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:08,283
And I think that's why Don's
script originally appealed
342
00:16:08,284 --> 00:16:11,153
to me because here
was this child
343
00:16:11,154 --> 00:16:12,988
that was saying, "My
doll's come to life
344
00:16:12,989 --> 00:16:14,656
and has spoken to me."
345
00:16:14,657 --> 00:16:16,191
- Andy stop it.
346
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,994
You know perfectly well
that you're making this up.
347
00:16:18,995 --> 00:16:21,230
- And one by one people
around him start dying.
348
00:16:21,231 --> 00:16:23,298
- And sometimes,
especially in horror films,
349
00:16:23,299 --> 00:16:28,170
I feel like that gives one of
the most jarring reactions.
350
00:16:28,171 --> 00:16:30,305
- That crying scene that
I did in the first one,
351
00:16:30,306 --> 00:16:34,076
where Andy breaks down
and is scared for his life
352
00:16:34,077 --> 00:16:36,144
that Chucky's coming
to kill him..
353
00:16:36,145 --> 00:16:39,047
- After Chucky has
murdered several people,
354
00:16:39,048 --> 00:16:42,084
Andy is taken to a mental
institution as a suspect.
355
00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,886
- It's like the little
boy that cried wolf,
356
00:16:43,887 --> 00:16:45,320
except he's telling
the truth.
357
00:16:45,321 --> 00:16:49,091
And it's so insane that
no one would believe him
358
00:16:49,092 --> 00:16:50,893
and he's separated
from his mother.
359
00:16:50,894 --> 00:16:52,127
- Meanwhile,
Chucky is trying
360
00:16:52,128 --> 00:16:55,063
to take over Andy's
body and soul.
361
00:16:55,064 --> 00:16:57,332
- He's locked up, but he
like slides down the chair.
362
00:16:57,333 --> 00:16:59,067
And he's crying, 'cause
Chucky's coming after him,
363
00:16:59,068 --> 00:17:00,235
and they don't
believe him.
364
00:17:00,236 --> 00:17:03,138
- I was so dreading that
scene to begin with.
365
00:17:03,139 --> 00:17:04,907
Like I was just
really dreading it,
366
00:17:04,908 --> 00:17:06,275
because it was a
crying scene.
367
00:17:06,276 --> 00:17:09,211
- I think that as a kid too,
you hate crying on camera,
368
00:17:09,212 --> 00:17:10,379
because you just
wanna have fun.
369
00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:12,948
And now as an adult, I'm
like, when can I cry?
370
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:15,083
- When it finally
came time to do it,
371
00:17:15,084 --> 00:17:17,920
I just kind of let
loose and was crying.
372
00:17:17,921 --> 00:17:20,723
- Please don't leave
me, please. (cries)
373
00:17:25,061 --> 00:17:27,763
- I legit, am like,
that poor kid.
374
00:17:27,764 --> 00:17:29,164
He's about to get got.
375
00:17:29,165 --> 00:17:31,033
- There are people
who have said it's,
376
00:17:31,034 --> 00:17:33,235
you could just kick the
doll, it's not scary.
377
00:17:33,236 --> 00:17:35,137
And I never
understand that.
378
00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:37,873
- This little toy,
how scary can it be?
379
00:17:37,874 --> 00:17:39,074
You could kick him over.
380
00:17:39,075 --> 00:17:41,008
You could throw him
across the room.
381
00:17:41,009 --> 00:17:43,244
- I mean, if I walk
through my house
382
00:17:43,245 --> 00:17:45,947
and a doll came to life,
I'd probably just have
383
00:17:45,948 --> 00:17:47,214
a heart attack and die.
384
00:17:47,215 --> 00:17:49,417
I mean, that's
really scary.
385
00:17:49,418 --> 00:17:51,786
- I think that's why
audiences embrace the
386
00:17:51,787 --> 00:17:53,921
'cause he is an underdog.
387
00:17:53,922 --> 00:17:55,356
You know, he
is resilient.
388
00:17:55,357 --> 00:17:59,760
He can overcome his
shortcomings and do the job.
389
00:17:59,761 --> 00:18:01,597
(gun fires)
390
00:18:03,532 --> 00:18:06,067
- I had just gotten in
the Writer's Guild,
391
00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:08,135
and there was a strike,
392
00:18:08,136 --> 00:18:11,105
so I was not able to be on
the set for "Child's Play"
393
00:18:11,106 --> 00:18:13,975
But then when the
movie was in post
394
00:18:13,976 --> 00:18:16,210
and they were editing
David very graciously,
395
00:18:16,211 --> 00:18:17,244
'cause he didn't
have to do this,
396
00:18:17,245 --> 00:18:20,047
and a lot of producers
wouldn't do it,
397
00:18:20,048 --> 00:18:22,149
invited me into
the editing room
398
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:23,384
just to see what
they were doing.
399
00:18:23,385 --> 00:18:26,087
And just to get my opinion
for what it was worth.
400
00:18:26,088 --> 00:18:29,290
- It's funny because
what Don was so taken by,
401
00:18:29,291 --> 00:18:31,158
and when Liz and I
were in London,
402
00:18:31,159 --> 00:18:34,061
and I bought that book on
Victorian dollhouse murders,
403
00:18:34,062 --> 00:18:36,063
there's just something
in us, people
404
00:18:36,064 --> 00:18:37,431
that are frightened
of dolls.
405
00:18:37,432 --> 00:18:40,067
And people say all the time,
"I'm frightened of dolls."
406
00:18:40,068 --> 00:18:41,802
- Because there's something
about an inanimate object
407
00:18:41,803 --> 00:18:43,405
that's like, so
408
00:18:45,007 --> 00:18:47,008
no emotion, but
like just a smile.
409
00:18:47,009 --> 00:18:50,077
- This like
frozen expression
410
00:18:50,078 --> 00:18:53,881
that leaves your
imagination room
411
00:18:53,882 --> 00:18:56,050
to do anything
and go anywhere.
412
00:18:56,051 --> 00:18:59,153
- I do think that it's
the idea of bringing
413
00:18:59,154 --> 00:19:03,958
the effigy of human form
to life, that shouldn't be.
414
00:19:03,959 --> 00:19:05,359
- But that was
really nice of him.
415
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:10,064
And I think it was really at
that point that we bonded,
416
00:19:10,065 --> 00:19:13,167
not just as colleagues,
but as friends.
417
00:19:13,168 --> 00:19:17,104
And you know, and then
happily the movie was
418
00:19:17,105 --> 00:19:18,406
and they wanted
to do a sequel.
419
00:19:18,407 --> 00:19:20,941
- In fact, if it was a
movie it would take three
420
00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:23,310
or four sequels just
to do it justice.
421
00:19:23,311 --> 00:19:27,616
(darkly amusing tinkling
children's carnival music)
422
00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:30,652
(tape rattles)
423
00:19:33,755 --> 00:19:35,322
(paper scrapes)
424
00:19:35,323 --> 00:19:38,925
(amusing tinkly children's
carnival music)
425
00:19:38,926 --> 00:19:42,328
(tape rattles)
426
00:19:42,329 --> 00:19:45,265
- I was so proud of the
work that everybody did,
427
00:19:45,266 --> 00:19:49,202
but I never dreamed
there would be a sequel.
428
00:19:49,203 --> 00:19:51,171
I didn't even
think like that.
429
00:19:51,172 --> 00:19:53,273
It was the movie we were
gonna do and then move on.
430
00:19:53,274 --> 00:19:55,041
- You know, and so we
did two movies back
431
00:19:55,042 --> 00:19:57,043
to back, basically.
432
00:19:57,044 --> 00:19:59,312
- I brought Don back
on the second film.
433
00:19:59,313 --> 00:20:02,882
Yes, he was rewritten by John
Lafia on the first film,
434
00:20:02,883 --> 00:20:05,085
and then Tom Holland
after that.
435
00:20:05,086 --> 00:20:09,089
But he has always had a first
position writer's credit
436
00:20:09,090 --> 00:20:11,257
on 30 years of Chucky.
437
00:20:11,258 --> 00:20:14,027
- In "Child's Play 2"
Andy Barclay is sent
438
00:20:14,028 --> 00:20:16,062
to live with
foster parents,
439
00:20:16,063 --> 00:20:18,264
played by Jenny Agutter
and Gerrit Graham.
440
00:20:18,265 --> 00:20:20,100
And of course they
don't believe him
441
00:20:20,101 --> 00:20:22,168
that this doll has
been haunting him
442
00:20:22,169 --> 00:20:24,204
for so much of
his young life.
443
00:20:24,205 --> 00:20:27,707
And they soon wind up
risking Chucky's wrath.
444
00:20:27,708 --> 00:20:28,342
- I've had it!
445
00:20:30,745 --> 00:20:32,679
- [Andy] But you've
got to kill him!
446
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,147
- [Joanne] Andy!
447
00:20:34,148 --> 00:20:36,049
- I don't have any favorite
individual memories
448
00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:38,151
from that set
because I was,
449
00:20:38,152 --> 00:20:41,020
the entire experience
was so exciting for me.
450
00:20:41,021 --> 00:20:44,190
I was so unbelievably
happy to be there.
451
00:20:44,191 --> 00:20:46,392
- This was really the
big, big production.
452
00:20:46,393 --> 00:20:48,928
So I really looked up to all
those people when I was a
453
00:20:48,929 --> 00:20:51,064
And I had a lifetime
of remembering
454
00:20:51,065 --> 00:20:52,232
that I looked up to them.
455
00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:54,067
- He was seven
and I was 24.
456
00:20:54,068 --> 00:20:57,003
So while I was like a
big sister to him then.
457
00:20:57,004 --> 00:20:58,404
And he has since
told me that I was
458
00:20:58,405 --> 00:21:00,940
the person he remembers
being nicest to him then.
459
00:21:00,941 --> 00:21:02,275
He really felt like I
was his big sister.
460
00:21:02,276 --> 00:21:05,178
- Christine, for
example, you know,
461
00:21:05,179 --> 00:21:07,247
she really feels like
my older sister.
462
00:21:07,248 --> 00:21:09,315
- It's a relationship
that's rarely explored
463
00:21:09,316 --> 00:21:11,451
in horror movies or
movies in general
464
00:21:11,452 --> 00:21:13,987
is like the foster
sibling relationship.
465
00:21:13,988 --> 00:21:15,388
He is a little messed
up from his experience,
466
00:21:15,389 --> 00:21:19,993
but he has this older sibling
he attaches onto real fast.
467
00:21:19,994 --> 00:21:22,128
She treats him as an
equal and she's like,
468
00:21:22,129 --> 00:21:24,364
"Yep, life's messed up,
but I'll help you out."
469
00:21:24,365 --> 00:21:26,299
And she goes to bat for
him. It's really nice.
470
00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:28,234
- I auditioned the
way everyone does.
471
00:21:28,235 --> 00:21:30,103
I went to a, you know, my
agent got me an appointment,
472
00:21:30,104 --> 00:21:31,271
and I went and I read.
473
00:21:31,272 --> 00:21:34,073
My stock and trade
at the time was
474
00:21:34,074 --> 00:21:35,375
the offbeat misunderstood,
tough chick without a gold,
475
00:21:35,376 --> 00:21:37,943
which was my stock and
trade for many, many years.
476
00:21:37,944 --> 00:21:39,978
And I didn't get it.
477
00:21:39,979 --> 00:21:42,114
But I got an episode
of "21 Jump Street"
478
00:21:42,115 --> 00:21:43,182
that I went and did.
479
00:21:43,183 --> 00:21:44,283
And then I came
back from that.
480
00:21:44,284 --> 00:21:45,884
And the day I came back
from "Jumpstreet,"
481
00:21:45,885 --> 00:21:47,286
I got an episode of
the then "Baywatch."
482
00:21:47,287 --> 00:21:50,022
And I was working and I
felt really empowered.
483
00:21:50,023 --> 00:21:52,324
They hadn't found
the Kyle yet,
484
00:21:52,325 --> 00:21:54,793
and so they decided to go
back and read the girls
485
00:21:54,794 --> 00:21:56,395
that had been
near misses.
486
00:21:56,396 --> 00:21:59,298
And I went back and I went
back with attitude though.
487
00:21:59,299 --> 00:22:01,266
I had a call time, I
didn't have time to waste.
488
00:22:01,267 --> 00:22:02,202
I had to get in
and out of there,
489
00:22:02,203 --> 00:22:03,235
and get my ass
to the beach,
490
00:22:03,236 --> 00:22:05,470
and do a whole day
on "Baywatch."
491
00:22:05,471 --> 00:22:09,041
My attitude shifted
enormously for that second
492
00:22:09,042 --> 00:22:11,109
And I think that's
why I got it.
493
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:13,011
That black leather hat that
I'm wearing, it's my hat.
494
00:22:13,012 --> 00:22:13,980
I've worn it in
a ton of stuff.
495
00:22:13,981 --> 00:22:15,848
I wore it in the
old "90210."
496
00:22:15,849 --> 00:22:17,249
I wore it in the
new "90210."
497
00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:19,918
I wore it in the old
Chucky and the new Chucky.
498
00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,286
It's a single most
important piece
499
00:22:21,287 --> 00:22:24,089
of memorabilia from my
career that I have.
500
00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:26,091
And it's weird 'cause I owned
it before I was an actor.
501
00:22:26,092 --> 00:22:28,961
- They made a big maze out
of the empty Chucky boxes.
502
00:22:28,962 --> 00:22:30,162
It was a lot of fun.
503
00:22:30,163 --> 00:22:32,764
And I remember, you
know, melting down Chucky
504
00:22:32,765 --> 00:22:34,166
with that hot wax.
505
00:22:34,167 --> 00:22:35,868
It wasn't really hot,
but it looked hot.
506
00:22:35,869 --> 00:22:37,202
- And then that
last sequence
507
00:22:37,203 --> 00:22:40,272
in the toy factory
is just incredible.
508
00:22:40,273 --> 00:22:43,041
Like that's, when you see
a movie about a killer toy,
509
00:22:43,042 --> 00:22:45,210
you want it to end
in a toy factory.
510
00:22:45,211 --> 00:22:48,780
- All those scenes were
action packed parts of the
511
00:22:48,781 --> 00:22:50,215
but also time consuming.
512
00:22:50,216 --> 00:22:54,119
Because if it's more
demanding of us physically,
513
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,121
it's most likely more
demanding of Chucky,
514
00:22:56,122 --> 00:22:59,224
and that means a lot of
extra puppeteer work.
515
00:22:59,225 --> 00:23:01,960
- It takes all nine
puppeteers to work him.
516
00:23:01,961 --> 00:23:04,796
We got a guy on legs,
a guy on one arm,
517
00:23:04,797 --> 00:23:06,198
a guy on another arm.
518
00:23:06,199 --> 00:23:08,467
Three facial puppeteers
working the lips,
519
00:23:08,468 --> 00:23:11,337
the brows, the eyes, a
puppeteer on the head and
520
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:14,940
(Chucky screams)
521
00:23:14,941 --> 00:23:16,975
- Andy! Hurry up he's
right behind you!
522
00:23:16,976 --> 00:23:20,279
- [Chucky] You
bastard! (groans)
523
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,781
- You know, this small army
of technicians were needed
524
00:23:22,782 --> 00:23:24,016
to bring Chucky to life.
525
00:23:24,017 --> 00:23:26,351
- It's really sort of
an animated movie.
526
00:23:26,352 --> 00:23:28,887
You know, it's shot in
live action and stuff,
527
00:23:28,888 --> 00:23:30,923
but he was
completely animated
528
00:23:30,924 --> 00:23:33,225
just in a sort of
a puppet sense.
529
00:23:33,226 --> 00:23:35,259
- And Kevin rounded up
some of the best of,
530
00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:37,361
you know, people
in the business.
531
00:23:37,362 --> 00:23:41,966
- The biggest challenge,
I think again, for us,
532
00:23:41,967 --> 00:23:43,334
the crew was to get,
and the puppeteers,
533
00:23:43,335 --> 00:23:46,270
was to get the doll to walk,
to give a convincing walk.
534
00:23:46,271 --> 00:23:51,075
- You've been very
naughty, Miss Kettlewell.
535
00:23:51,076 --> 00:23:53,044
- Now I consider
Kevin a friend,
536
00:23:53,045 --> 00:23:54,278
but then he was just sort
of like everybody there
537
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:56,247
that was above me,
they were gods.
538
00:23:56,248 --> 00:23:59,150
- And the puppeteering that
went into bringing Chucky
539
00:23:59,151 --> 00:24:02,186
to life to do the
impossible, and they did it.
540
00:24:02,187 --> 00:24:04,822
- In the first film we
used a little person
541
00:24:04,823 --> 00:24:06,891
and cut between the two.
542
00:24:06,892 --> 00:24:08,092
Kevin has now
made it possible
543
00:24:08,093 --> 00:24:09,760
that we don't need a
little person at all.
544
00:24:09,761 --> 00:24:10,696
(sheet rips)
545
00:24:10,697 --> 00:24:12,698
(Chucky screams)
546
00:24:14,533 --> 00:24:17,935
- I was just really
enamored of being there.
547
00:24:17,936 --> 00:24:19,337
Especially when
we first started,
548
00:24:19,338 --> 00:24:21,305
the first half of the
schedule was on the lot at
549
00:24:21,306 --> 00:24:23,207
And it was on a stage
that had, at the time,
550
00:24:23,208 --> 00:24:25,176
the oldest existing
set in the world.
551
00:24:25,177 --> 00:24:27,078
It was the opera
house from
552
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:28,813
the original "Phantom
of the Opera"
553
00:24:28,814 --> 00:24:30,214
which has since
burned down.
554
00:24:30,215 --> 00:24:32,016
But being on the
Universal lot where
555
00:24:32,017 --> 00:24:34,218
the Universal
monsters were born,
556
00:24:34,219 --> 00:24:36,053
and being a working
actress is just,
557
00:24:36,054 --> 00:24:37,188
you really feel
like an actor.
558
00:24:37,189 --> 00:24:39,090
You really feel
like you're part of
559
00:24:39,091 --> 00:24:41,058
that historic community
when you're on one
560
00:24:41,059 --> 00:24:44,228
of those old lots,
they're so magical.
561
00:24:44,229 --> 00:24:48,734
- Please, I was
only playing.
562
00:24:49,801 --> 00:24:52,169
No!
(doors thud)
563
00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:56,375
(ominous, aggressive
piano music)
564
00:25:00,012 --> 00:25:02,581
(tapes rattles)
565
00:25:04,349 --> 00:25:07,184
- "Child's Play 2" and three
were kind of shot
566
00:25:07,185 --> 00:25:09,220
I think they were
rushed into production.
567
00:25:09,221 --> 00:25:11,322
They came out less
than a year apart.
568
00:25:11,323 --> 00:25:14,892
- They had Justin Whalin who
I've never met to this day.
569
00:25:14,893 --> 00:25:16,894
But they had
him play Andy.
570
00:25:16,895 --> 00:25:18,195
- No offense to
Justin Whalin,
571
00:25:18,196 --> 00:25:20,765
but you know, I was so
attached to Alex who
572
00:25:20,766 --> 00:25:22,700
is the most adorable kid.
573
00:25:22,701 --> 00:25:24,235
Yeah, to have him recast.
574
00:25:24,236 --> 00:25:26,070
I understand they wanted to
age him up for story
575
00:25:26,071 --> 00:25:27,872
- Because I was
not old enough.
576
00:25:27,873 --> 00:25:30,074
I was only 10
at the time.
577
00:25:30,075 --> 00:25:32,842
They wanted him to be 16
and have a girlfriend,
578
00:25:32,843 --> 00:25:34,244
and be in
military school.
579
00:25:34,245 --> 00:25:36,279
- And every project
that I've ever made,
580
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,381
if you go through my
whole filmography,
581
00:25:38,382 --> 00:25:42,152
they all deal with children,
whether it's "Hocus Pocus,"
582
00:25:42,153 --> 00:25:44,721
whether it's "An American
Tail" and a little Jewish
583
00:25:44,722 --> 00:25:45,389
but they're all kids.
584
00:25:45,723 --> 00:25:48,024
- When I heard that we
were making a third one,
585
00:25:48,025 --> 00:25:50,293
I assumed that I
would be in it.
586
00:25:50,294 --> 00:25:53,263
As a 10-year-old that was a
bit of a tough pill to
587
00:25:53,264 --> 00:25:56,766
- To Andy Barclay and Chucky,
those are the projects
588
00:25:56,767 --> 00:25:58,068
that I'm attracted to,
589
00:25:58,069 --> 00:26:00,170
the exploration of childhood
is everything to me.
590
00:26:00,171 --> 00:26:03,306
To me, it forms who
we are as people.
591
00:26:03,307 --> 00:26:06,076
- What happens to real
people in real life
592
00:26:06,077 --> 00:26:08,978
when they have
violence happen?
593
00:26:08,979 --> 00:26:09,814
When you're a child,
I mean, you would,
594
00:26:09,815 --> 00:26:11,247
it would screw you up.
595
00:26:11,248 --> 00:26:13,016
- Somehow I saw it
though, when it came out.
596
00:26:13,017 --> 00:26:15,118
And you know, I
thought, yeah, okay.
597
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,287
Maybe I'll look like that
when I'm 16. I don't know.
598
00:26:17,288 --> 00:26:20,190
I think he did a fine
job. The movie was fun.
599
00:26:20,191 --> 00:26:24,962
The one liners were becoming
a little more prominent.
600
00:26:25,963 --> 00:26:29,199
- Don't fuck with
the Chuck. (laughs)
601
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,201
- It's got, you know,
really good kills in it.
602
00:26:31,202 --> 00:26:33,336
- Just how sadistic
it is to make
603
00:26:33,337 --> 00:26:35,972
the kids kill each other,
instead of him doing the
604
00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:37,107
by replacing
those paintballs
605
00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:38,908
with bullets and
live ammunition.
606
00:26:38,909 --> 00:26:40,210
That's nuts.
607
00:26:40,211 --> 00:26:43,046
- And Chucky's death scene
is spectacular in that film.
608
00:26:43,047 --> 00:26:45,649
(Chucky screaming)
609
00:26:47,718 --> 00:26:50,086
(metal crunches)
610
00:26:50,087 --> 00:26:52,689
- And then they end up
killing Chucky in the end.
611
00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:53,723
Or do they?
612
00:26:53,724 --> 00:26:56,960
(rock music)
613
00:26:56,961 --> 00:26:57,895
(tape rattles)
614
00:26:57,896 --> 00:27:01,398
(rock music)
615
00:27:09,073 --> 00:27:11,441
- And we begin
"Bride of Chucky,"
616
00:27:11,442 --> 00:27:14,777
with his ex-girlfriend,
Tiffany, stitching him back
617
00:27:14,778 --> 00:27:16,112
and resurrecting him.
618
00:27:16,113 --> 00:27:18,748
- [Tiffany] Ade
Due Damballa
619
00:27:18,749 --> 00:27:20,416
- Awake!
620
00:27:20,417 --> 00:27:24,053
- When I thought of that
character with "Bride of
621
00:27:24,054 --> 00:27:25,922
I knew that, you know, it
needed to be a two-hander.
622
00:27:25,923 --> 00:27:27,223
(thunder crashes)
623
00:27:27,224 --> 00:27:31,026
- Awake. Awake, awake, awake!
(hand smacks)
624
00:27:31,027 --> 00:27:33,195
- This needed to be a
movie about a relationship
625
00:27:33,196 --> 00:27:34,963
between these
two characters.
626
00:27:34,964 --> 00:27:36,899
And so the "Bride
of Chucky" needed
627
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,333
to be very different
from Chucky.
628
00:27:38,334 --> 00:27:41,203
- You look like Martha
Stewart with that thing.
629
00:27:41,204 --> 00:27:43,805
- Who the fuck is
Martha Stewart?
630
00:27:43,806 --> 00:27:45,307
- My idol.
631
00:27:45,308 --> 00:27:47,109
- They tried something
entirely new with "Bride"
632
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:49,144
and really changed it up.
633
00:27:49,145 --> 00:27:52,981
- It very much was the
perfect adjustment
634
00:27:52,982 --> 00:27:56,318
of changing the
way Chucky was.
635
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:58,053
That those movies were
into the way they needed
636
00:27:58,054 --> 00:27:59,955
to be for that era.
637
00:27:59,956 --> 00:28:01,957
- Introduced Tiffany
who just revitalizes
638
00:28:01,958 --> 00:28:03,192
the series, I think.
639
00:28:03,193 --> 00:28:05,027
- You know, Chucky
is kind of like
640
00:28:05,028 --> 00:28:07,229
more straightforwardly
blood thirsty.
641
00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:10,065
Whereas Tiffany,
you know, she has
642
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:13,035
some conventional
wants in her life.
643
00:28:13,036 --> 00:28:14,937
She wants love. She
wants affection.
644
00:28:14,938 --> 00:28:16,038
She wants to
be understood.
645
00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:18,840
- Oh, that's so romantic.
646
00:28:18,841 --> 00:28:21,176
- I give them six months.
647
00:28:21,177 --> 00:28:23,078
- And Tiffany is based
on my friend Ronna.
648
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:24,913
Tiffany looks
just like Ronna.
649
00:28:24,914 --> 00:28:26,048
That's how those
two came to be.
650
00:28:26,049 --> 00:28:27,916
Which of course,
is Jennifer Tilly.
651
00:28:27,917 --> 00:28:29,585
- David Kirschner,
I adore him.
652
00:28:29,586 --> 00:28:30,852
He's the one that
came to me at
653
00:28:30,853 --> 00:28:32,955
the very beginning
when I was sort of,
654
00:28:32,956 --> 00:28:34,389
I was sort of like
digging in my heels.
655
00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:36,425
Like, I don't know if I
wanna do a Chucky movie.
656
00:28:36,426 --> 00:28:38,961
And I didn't know anything
about Chucky movies at the
657
00:28:38,962 --> 00:28:41,163
But he said, "I
want to meet you."
658
00:28:41,164 --> 00:28:43,031
He did a whole
presentation.
659
00:28:43,032 --> 00:28:44,967
We went to the
Bel Air hotel.
660
00:28:44,968 --> 00:28:46,535
He had the Chucky
doll in the trunk.
661
00:28:46,536 --> 00:28:50,239
He brought it out very
reverentially like, this is
662
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,075
Like he was introducing
me to Chucky.
663
00:28:53,076 --> 00:28:54,843
- I didn't know Jennifer
Tilly before that,
664
00:28:54,844 --> 00:28:56,211
but I had written
it for her.
665
00:28:56,212 --> 00:28:58,046
And then, you know, and
just well of course,
666
00:28:58,047 --> 00:28:59,147
that's not gonna
work out,
667
00:28:59,148 --> 00:29:00,816
'cause things like
that rarely work out.
668
00:29:00,817 --> 00:29:02,184
But then she
wanted to do it.
669
00:29:02,185 --> 00:29:04,286
- I think he felt like
once I saw the Chucky doll,
670
00:29:04,287 --> 00:29:06,188
and once I heard what
Chucky was all about,
671
00:29:06,189 --> 00:29:08,056
of course I would
fall in love with
672
00:29:08,057 --> 00:29:09,891
the whole Chucky franchise
and come on board.
673
00:29:09,892 --> 00:29:11,126
Which I actually did.
674
00:29:11,127 --> 00:29:12,928
He did a very good job
of selling me on it.
675
00:29:12,929 --> 00:29:15,230
- After having
done three sort
676
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:19,001
of straightforward,
relatively conventional horror
677
00:29:19,002 --> 00:29:21,937
that we, you know,
reinvented it as a comedy.
678
00:29:21,938 --> 00:29:24,039
And she was a big
part of that.
679
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,942
- When slasher series
reach their burnout phase,
680
00:29:26,943 --> 00:29:29,076
the creators do one
of two things.
681
00:29:29,077 --> 00:29:32,146
They either make the
subsequent chapters comedic,
682
00:29:32,147 --> 00:29:34,248
horror comedies, or
they play for laughs.
683
00:29:34,249 --> 00:29:37,285
Or they take their killers
and put them in outer space.
684
00:29:37,286 --> 00:29:39,186
So in the case of "Bride
of Chucky," I was relieved
685
00:29:39,187 --> 00:29:41,055
that they made
it more comedic.
686
00:29:41,056 --> 00:29:42,890
- I was really unprepared
for, you know,
687
00:29:42,891 --> 00:29:46,160
the humor and
the history,
688
00:29:46,161 --> 00:29:49,330
and just the really great
writing and great
689
00:29:49,331 --> 00:29:52,166
- The Chucky films were
definitely revolutionary
690
00:29:52,167 --> 00:29:54,268
in introducing
gay characters.
691
00:29:54,269 --> 00:29:57,138
- It was important to
me with these movies
692
00:29:57,139 --> 00:29:59,374
to constantly appeal
to that subset.
693
00:30:00,742 --> 00:30:03,711
That has sort of
steamrolled over the last,
694
00:30:03,712 --> 00:30:04,979
since "Bride of Chucky""
695
00:30:04,980 --> 00:30:06,180
is when we started
making it pretty gay.
696
00:30:06,181 --> 00:30:08,082
- Don is gay and
he's had a lot
697
00:30:08,083 --> 00:30:10,718
of really interesting
sympathetic gay characters
698
00:30:10,719 --> 00:30:12,053
in the franchise.
699
00:30:12,054 --> 00:30:13,321
For example, the best friend
in the "Bride of Chucky."
700
00:30:13,322 --> 00:30:16,223
- And the Alexis Arquette
character and Tiffany.
701
00:30:16,224 --> 00:30:18,159
You know, Jennifer Tilly
has always appealed
702
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,927
to a gay audience,
probably dating back
703
00:30:19,928 --> 00:30:21,295
to her role in "Bound."
704
00:30:21,296 --> 00:30:24,198
- My favorite scene, sadly,
is when I was killed.
705
00:30:24,199 --> 00:30:26,033
It's when Tiffany
was in the bathtub.
706
00:30:26,034 --> 00:30:28,169
I thought it was
so cinematic.
707
00:30:28,170 --> 00:30:31,939
When I'm watching the
"Bride of Frankenstein"
708
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:33,407
and I'm starting to cry,
709
00:30:33,408 --> 00:30:36,177
'cause I can relate to the
"Bride of Frankenstein."
710
00:30:36,178 --> 00:30:38,112
And then Chucky starts
walking down the hall
711
00:30:38,113 --> 00:30:40,247
in his little
Chucky legs.
712
00:30:40,248 --> 00:30:43,384
And then he throws the
TV into the bathtub.
713
00:30:43,385 --> 00:30:46,187
And I'm screaming, and "Bride
of Frankenstein" is
714
00:30:46,188 --> 00:30:48,756
And "Bride of Frankenstein"
pops up, and I go under.
715
00:30:48,757 --> 00:30:51,926
(bride screaming)
716
00:30:51,927 --> 00:30:54,563
(Tiffany screams)
717
00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:58,199
it's just so
beautifully shot.
718
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,101
- Just the idea that the
surging electricity would
719
00:31:00,102 --> 00:31:02,169
all these bubbles
to waft.
720
00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:04,071
I always just thought
that's such a cool image.
721
00:31:04,072 --> 00:31:05,139
- That's what's
so brilliant
722
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:07,174
about Don's creation
of that scene.
723
00:31:07,175 --> 00:31:09,910
You have bubbles set
against murder.
724
00:31:09,911 --> 00:31:12,179
- It just was
special to me,
725
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:17,084
because I felt like I took a
step in confidence as a
726
00:31:17,085 --> 00:31:19,220
I didn't direct that
one. I just wrote it.
727
00:31:19,221 --> 00:31:23,257
And the director and
cinematographer on that
728
00:31:23,258 --> 00:31:25,760
were these amazing
Chinese filmmakers,
729
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:27,194
Ronny Yu and Peter Pau.
730
00:31:27,195 --> 00:31:28,995
And it's like, you would
walk on the set every day,
731
00:31:28,996 --> 00:31:31,164
it was just so beautiful.
732
00:31:31,165 --> 00:31:33,066
- I think everybody loves
the makeover that she did,
733
00:31:33,067 --> 00:31:34,267
where she was
just like your
734
00:31:34,268 --> 00:31:36,503
a run of the mill
middle class doll.
735
00:31:36,504 --> 00:31:40,039
And all of a sudden she's
putting on black nail
736
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,143
and combat boots and making
herself like a real badass.
737
00:31:43,144 --> 00:31:46,379
- She's kind of gorg, and
like kind of looks amaze.
738
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,082
If she was like a really cool
scene girl in real life,
739
00:31:49,083 --> 00:31:50,050
you know what I mean?
740
00:31:50,051 --> 00:31:51,885
(Tiffany breathes smoke)
741
00:31:51,886 --> 00:31:53,086
("Call Me" by Blondie)
742
00:31:53,087 --> 00:31:56,289
- Barbie, eat
your heart out.
743
00:31:56,290 --> 00:32:00,059
- [Kevin] It's probably it's
anywhere minimal seven
744
00:32:00,060 --> 00:32:03,263
but it can take up to eight
or nine people per puppet.
745
00:32:03,264 --> 00:32:06,966
- Very complicated
coordination.
746
00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:09,836
If you're dealing with
just puppet alone,
747
00:32:09,837 --> 00:32:11,171
puppet and puppet,
it's easier.
748
00:32:11,172 --> 00:32:13,740
- We did hours, and
hours, and hours,
749
00:32:13,741 --> 00:32:16,176
and hours of ADR on that.
750
00:32:16,177 --> 00:32:17,911
- If you had the
interaction with between,
751
00:32:17,912 --> 00:32:19,412
you know, human actor
752
00:32:19,413 --> 00:32:23,183
it has to be really figured
out early on in advance
753
00:32:23,184 --> 00:32:25,819
and then has to have
a lot of rehearsal.
754
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:27,253
- They set up
these two booths,
755
00:32:27,254 --> 00:32:29,155
so when we were doing the
lines we could look at each
756
00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:31,024
It was really amazing
working off of such
757
00:32:31,025 --> 00:32:32,192
a great actor as him.
758
00:32:32,193 --> 00:32:34,227
You know, sometimes
I would improvise,
759
00:32:34,228 --> 00:32:36,196
and then he gives
something right back.
760
00:32:36,197 --> 00:32:38,898
- She's just really funny.
- She brilliant at improv.
761
00:32:38,899 --> 00:32:41,067
Way, I mean, I'm
not even close to.
762
00:32:41,068 --> 00:32:42,068
She's in a
different class.
763
00:32:42,069 --> 00:32:44,137
- And what does
Martha tell you do
764
00:32:44,138 --> 00:32:45,905
when guests drop
by for dinner
765
00:32:45,906 --> 00:32:47,708
and you haven't
had time to shop?
766
00:32:48,943 --> 00:32:51,144
You improvise.
767
00:32:51,145 --> 00:32:53,012
- Upon discovering where
Charles Lee Ray's body
768
00:32:53,013 --> 00:32:55,048
was buried,
there's an amulet
769
00:32:55,049 --> 00:32:57,984
that can restore them
back to human form.
770
00:32:57,985 --> 00:32:59,385
- All right, let's go.
771
00:32:59,386 --> 00:33:03,022
- Oh, sure. I'll steer and
you can work the pedals.
772
00:33:03,023 --> 00:33:05,225
We're dolls, you dope!
773
00:33:05,226 --> 00:33:08,161
- They arrange for Tiffany's
neighbor to drive them
774
00:33:08,162 --> 00:33:11,297
And they don't know that
all the dolls are alive.
775
00:33:11,298 --> 00:33:12,999
- Of course, they don't
realize that these dolls
776
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,001
are committing murders
along the way.
777
00:33:15,002 --> 00:33:17,003
Murders which the
kids themselves
778
00:33:17,004 --> 00:33:19,372
are then implicated for.
779
00:33:19,373 --> 00:33:22,075
- So in the process, they
end up getting married.
780
00:33:22,076 --> 00:33:23,943
- Chucky having a
bride, Tifanny,
781
00:33:23,944 --> 00:33:25,345
it sort of humanizes
him a little bit.
782
00:33:25,346 --> 00:33:27,246
Because now you can
relate to the character.
783
00:33:27,247 --> 00:33:29,982
He's not just like a
homicidal little maniac.
784
00:33:29,983 --> 00:33:32,084
He has a lot of problems
that most men have.
785
00:33:32,085 --> 00:33:34,286
You know, like a
nagging girlfriend
786
00:33:34,287 --> 00:33:35,988
that complains she's
not getting enough sex.
787
00:33:35,989 --> 00:33:37,956
- The love stuff
788
00:33:37,957 --> 00:33:41,827
between Chucky and
Tiffany, both as dolls,
789
00:33:41,828 --> 00:33:44,430
was just so
cute. (laughs)
790
00:33:45,732 --> 00:33:47,199
And fun.
791
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,167
- But then you had sex
in it, which was good.
792
00:33:49,168 --> 00:33:50,836
That the "Bride of
Chucky" had actually
793
00:33:50,837 --> 00:33:52,838
added sex to horror.
794
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,941
You never, like Godzilla
didn't have sex.
795
00:33:55,942 --> 00:33:58,944
Frankenstein
didn't jerk off.
796
00:33:58,945 --> 00:34:00,279
We didn't have
that, really.
797
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,749
We didn't have the
monsters having a sex life,
798
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,350
where Chucky did.
799
00:34:05,351 --> 00:34:08,987
- And some of the best
stuff were totally improv.
800
00:34:08,988 --> 00:34:10,889
"You generally wear
prophylactics?"
801
00:34:10,890 --> 00:34:13,593
"Tiff, I am a
fucking rubber."
802
00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:15,661
- [Chucky] Have
I got a rubber?
803
00:34:15,662 --> 00:34:16,762
- [Tiffany] Yeah.
804
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:17,963
- [Chucky] Tiff.
805
00:34:17,964 --> 00:34:18,865
- What?
- Look at me!
806
00:34:18,866 --> 00:34:20,265
I'm all rubber!
807
00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:22,034
- Brad, he was looking
at me all the time,
808
00:34:22,035 --> 00:34:23,235
'cause he was
doing the lines.
809
00:34:23,236 --> 00:34:26,104
And at the end of the movie
when my character died,
810
00:34:26,105 --> 00:34:29,041
I looked over there and tears
were streaming down his
811
00:34:29,042 --> 00:34:30,809
He was so sad.
812
00:34:30,810 --> 00:34:32,244
And then I started
crying too.
813
00:34:32,245 --> 00:34:34,179
And then afterwards
he said to Don,
814
00:34:34,180 --> 00:34:36,949
"How come I haven't
had a wife sooner?"
815
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:39,718
- And they end up
having a baby.
816
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,422
(baby doll screeches)
817
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:47,025
(man screams)
818
00:34:47,026 --> 00:34:50,630
(ominous, low bass
orchestral music)
819
00:34:55,168 --> 00:34:57,102
- [Kyra] So what
led you to take
820
00:34:57,103 --> 00:34:59,037
on Tony Gardner as head
of the effects department
821
00:34:59,038 --> 00:35:00,939
in "Seed" going forward?
822
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:02,341
Why was there
that switch?
823
00:35:02,342 --> 00:35:05,243
- Well, what happened was
that Kevin Yagher had worked
824
00:35:05,244 --> 00:35:06,745
with us on the
first four films.
825
00:35:06,746 --> 00:35:08,246
Done a great job.
826
00:35:08,247 --> 00:35:10,882
His wife is Catherine
Hicks who played
827
00:35:10,883 --> 00:35:11,917
the mom in the
first film.
828
00:35:11,918 --> 00:35:12,985
All was great.
829
00:35:12,986 --> 00:35:14,953
And then when
we were going
830
00:35:14,954 --> 00:35:16,922
to make our fifth
film, Universal could
831
00:35:16,923 --> 00:35:18,090
not make the
deal with him.
832
00:35:18,091 --> 00:35:20,025
They were just
too far apart.
833
00:35:20,026 --> 00:35:22,127
We were cutting our
budget very far back.
834
00:35:22,128 --> 00:35:26,097
- As your slasher series
go on each subsequent film
835
00:35:26,098 --> 00:35:27,999
makes less than the
one before it.
836
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,368
So there's
diminishing returns.
837
00:35:30,369 --> 00:35:34,972
So yeah, the money men
tend to slash the budget.
838
00:35:34,973 --> 00:35:37,942
- And they
wouldn't budge.
839
00:35:37,943 --> 00:35:39,243
And they were
unfair to someone
840
00:35:39,244 --> 00:35:41,412
that had been really loyal
and had done a great job.
841
00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:44,281
- I loved what Tony Gardner
brought to the series as
842
00:35:44,282 --> 00:35:46,283
- Then there was the
opportunity to meet him.
843
00:35:46,284 --> 00:35:49,086
And because we had done
"Hocus Pocus" together,
844
00:35:49,087 --> 00:35:52,289
to call him and say, "Are you
interested in doing this?
845
00:35:52,290 --> 00:35:54,291
It's Chucky, you'd be
taking over for Kevin."
846
00:35:54,292 --> 00:35:57,161
And I think he was a
little hesitant of that.
847
00:35:57,162 --> 00:35:59,764
He's a loyal person
and loyal to his craft.
848
00:35:59,765 --> 00:36:00,699
But I said, you know,
849
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,333
"If it's not you it's
gonna be somebody.
850
00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:05,069
And you did such a
great job on 'Hocus.'
851
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:06,203
Would you consider this?"
852
00:36:06,204 --> 00:36:08,139
Have you ever done
anything like this?"
853
00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:09,273
And he said, "Well, not
bring a doll to life,
854
00:36:09,274 --> 00:36:10,908
but I've done plenty
of other things,
855
00:36:10,909 --> 00:36:12,209
bringing things to life."
856
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:14,912
So Don and I went out
and met with him.
857
00:36:14,913 --> 00:36:16,313
- I like working
with smart people,
858
00:36:16,314 --> 00:36:19,850
because they're allies when
you're making it together,
859
00:36:19,851 --> 00:36:21,318
as he definitely was.
860
00:36:21,319 --> 00:36:24,288
- And it's been this
partnership ever since.
861
00:36:24,289 --> 00:36:27,124
- Chucky and the
puppeteers, you all have
862
00:36:27,125 --> 00:36:30,327
to like descend together
into this fantasy.
863
00:36:30,328 --> 00:36:34,131
We all have to go into
this realm of this place
864
00:36:34,132 --> 00:36:36,000
that we've created and
make it believable.
865
00:36:36,001 --> 00:36:37,001
- It's queued up.
866
00:36:37,002 --> 00:36:39,270
(computer beeps)
867
00:36:39,271 --> 00:36:43,442
- What? Oh, sorry.
You were saying.
868
00:36:44,042 --> 00:36:45,776
- [Director]
That's a cut.
869
00:36:45,777 --> 00:36:46,977
Tony, you guys happy?
870
00:36:46,978 --> 00:36:47,946
- [Tony] Yeah, let's
go with that.
871
00:36:47,947 --> 00:36:50,314
- I find a thrill
in making something
872
00:36:50,315 --> 00:36:54,619
that isn't real be perceived
as real to somebody else.
873
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:57,288
It was sort of an
odd start for us,
874
00:36:57,289 --> 00:37:00,291
because we were supposed to
copy Kevin Yagher's puppets.
875
00:37:00,292 --> 00:37:04,295
But we had no resources from
Universal or from Kevin.
876
00:37:04,296 --> 00:37:08,165
All we had to go from
VHS copies of the movie.
877
00:37:08,166 --> 00:37:11,168
We would freeze the
VHS copy of the movie
878
00:37:11,169 --> 00:37:14,205
and take stills
off of the TV.
879
00:37:14,206 --> 00:37:16,173
And that was our
point of reference.
880
00:37:16,174 --> 00:37:19,076
We had like three months
to build everything.
881
00:37:19,077 --> 00:37:22,145
And then we were off to
Romania and right into it.
882
00:37:22,146 --> 00:37:25,148
We had a whole team
of puppeteers come in
883
00:37:25,149 --> 00:37:27,183
from England
to support us.
884
00:37:27,184 --> 00:37:29,986
There were five of us
from the United States,
885
00:37:29,987 --> 00:37:33,022
and then another 15
people from the UK.
886
00:37:33,023 --> 00:37:35,058
So we had amazing
resources,
887
00:37:35,059 --> 00:37:38,128
and just had a
great time.
888
00:37:38,129 --> 00:37:39,963
Another thing that was
really fun was getting
889
00:37:39,964 --> 00:37:42,932
to sort of design Glen
from the ground up.
890
00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:44,334
We knew he had to
have sharp teeth,
891
00:37:44,335 --> 00:37:46,970
because that had been
established in "Bride."
892
00:37:46,971 --> 00:37:49,072
But other than
that we were free
893
00:37:49,073 --> 00:37:51,841
to play with Glen, which
was really awesome.
894
00:37:51,842 --> 00:37:53,309
- And I love how
Glen looks.
895
00:37:53,310 --> 00:37:56,346
He looks like a Walter
Keane painting,
896
00:37:56,347 --> 00:38:00,216
or Margaret Keane who
actually did them, gone to
897
00:38:00,217 --> 00:38:02,253
- It was just kind
of fun, you know.
898
00:38:03,154 --> 00:38:06,122
Just trying to invent
who this character is.
899
00:38:06,123 --> 00:38:08,057
Don had this idea
that it should be
900
00:38:08,058 --> 00:38:10,927
a sort of Dickensian
character.
901
00:38:10,928 --> 00:38:13,163
It should be like
Oliver Twist.
902
00:38:13,164 --> 00:38:14,998
- Don felt strongly
that it would be great
903
00:38:14,999 --> 00:38:18,835
to explore further
the family dynamics
904
00:38:18,836 --> 00:38:21,137
of including this child.
905
00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:24,240
- Look, I still have the
necklace you left me.
906
00:38:24,241 --> 00:38:27,010
- It just seemed natural
that we would evolve
907
00:38:27,011 --> 00:38:29,045
into a domestic drama.
908
00:38:29,046 --> 00:38:30,280
- "Seed of Chucky"
I think was one
909
00:38:30,281 --> 00:38:32,282
of the most bizarre
experiences of my life.
910
00:38:32,283 --> 00:38:35,051
It's just really bizarre
to be looking at
911
00:38:35,052 --> 00:38:38,021
a little tiny doll with her
little eyes blinking, going,
912
00:38:38,022 --> 00:38:40,790
"Miss Tilly, you can
do it the easy way.
913
00:38:40,791 --> 00:38:42,993
- Or the hard way.
914
00:38:43,294 --> 00:38:45,028
- I was playing myself,
Jennifer Tilly,
915
00:38:45,029 --> 00:38:47,997
international film star.
916
00:38:47,998 --> 00:38:51,000
I was playing Tiffany,
a talking doll
917
00:38:51,001 --> 00:38:52,402
that was my biggest fan.
918
00:38:52,403 --> 00:38:56,973
And then I played Tiffany
in Jennifer Tilly's body.
919
00:38:56,974 --> 00:39:00,009
- Jennifer completely
mocks herself in this movie
920
00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:01,511
in a way that I think
people will love her for.
921
00:39:01,512 --> 00:39:04,981
- How come I don't ever get
any of the good roles
922
00:39:04,982 --> 00:39:07,717
How come nobody
takes me seriously?
923
00:39:07,718 --> 00:39:08,818
- Nice tits.
924
00:39:08,819 --> 00:39:09,853
- Thank you.
925
00:39:09,854 --> 00:39:11,287
- Yeah, I had a partner,
926
00:39:11,288 --> 00:39:15,024
you know, we were
arguing and smooching,
927
00:39:15,025 --> 00:39:17,094
and you know, doing
whatever we were doing.
928
00:39:18,028 --> 00:39:20,963
You know, murdering
together.
929
00:39:20,964 --> 00:39:22,030
- Having a kid together.
930
00:39:22,031 --> 00:39:24,032
- Having a kid together.
931
00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:26,068
- I knew Brad because
of "Lord of the Rings."
932
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:28,203
Brad of course,
is Wormtongue.
933
00:39:28,204 --> 00:39:30,172
- [Kyra] Did you
guys ever get to be
934
00:39:30,173 --> 00:39:32,040
in the booth together when
you did voiceover for
935
00:39:32,041 --> 00:39:34,176
- Nah, it was just me.
936
00:39:34,177 --> 00:39:36,912
Don had all these
pictures of what everybody
937
00:39:36,913 --> 00:39:38,180
was going to look like.
938
00:39:38,181 --> 00:39:41,049
And then he had
readings of most of
939
00:39:41,050 --> 00:39:43,051
the other characters
for the scene,
940
00:39:43,052 --> 00:39:45,020
so I knew how
they played it.
941
00:39:45,021 --> 00:39:46,054
But we didn't
play it together.
942
00:39:46,055 --> 00:39:48,290
- So I had different
voices for Tiffany.
943
00:39:48,291 --> 00:39:50,959
When Tiffany was a
person I had sort of like
944
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,995
a Marilyn Monroe-esque,
like kind of,
945
00:39:52,996 --> 00:39:55,130
like white trashy voice.
946
00:39:55,131 --> 00:39:57,132
And then when she
went into the doll,
947
00:39:57,133 --> 00:39:58,934
I made it more of
a tinny voice.
948
00:39:58,935 --> 00:40:00,002
'Cause I figured the
doll doesn't have
949
00:40:00,003 --> 00:40:01,136
like really strong
vocal chords.
950
00:40:01,137 --> 00:40:02,005
So I made it more of
a doll-like voice.
951
00:40:02,006 --> 00:40:04,006
- Yes, he is.
952
00:40:04,007 --> 00:40:05,807
- Joan, will you please
stop doing that?
953
00:40:05,808 --> 00:40:07,009
- Doing what?
954
00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:08,977
- Imitating me. I do
not sound like that!
955
00:40:08,978 --> 00:40:10,245
- Oh yes you do.
956
00:40:10,246 --> 00:40:12,314
- And then when she went
into Jennifer Tilly,
957
00:40:12,315 --> 00:40:14,216
I sort of had to do a
little bit of the doll,
958
00:40:14,217 --> 00:40:16,151
a little bit of
the human Tiffany
959
00:40:16,152 --> 00:40:18,186
in Jennifer
Tilly's voice.
960
00:40:18,187 --> 00:40:21,023
- All right, Fulvia, if
that's what you want.
961
00:40:21,024 --> 00:40:22,858
- And then we wanted
the difference
962
00:40:22,859 --> 00:40:24,927
between Glen and Glenda.
963
00:40:24,928 --> 00:40:26,995
Glen's a sort of
more proper English.
964
00:40:26,996 --> 00:40:28,230
- I saw you on the telly.
965
00:40:28,231 --> 00:40:32,167
- And then Glenda's a bit
more, kind of cockney.
966
00:40:32,168 --> 00:40:35,203
- That's my name. Don't
you wear it out.
967
00:40:35,204 --> 00:40:38,907
- I especially love
Billy Boyd's rendition
968
00:40:38,908 --> 00:40:40,976
of those characters.
969
00:40:40,977 --> 00:40:44,146
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle me dress.
970
00:40:44,147 --> 00:40:47,215
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle my dress.
971
00:40:47,216 --> 00:40:49,818
- I love him, and I
love Glen and Glenda.
972
00:40:49,819 --> 00:40:51,053
But a feel an
affection for them,
973
00:40:51,054 --> 00:40:52,220
because they're
my children.
974
00:40:52,221 --> 00:40:54,356
You never stop loving
your children.
975
00:40:54,357 --> 00:40:57,359
- Glen's cute, he would
be in a punk rock bar.
976
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,897
You know, he looks like a
kind of boy I'd date.
977
00:41:01,898 --> 00:41:03,832
- I really love Glen.
978
00:41:03,833 --> 00:41:05,233
I think he's
really funny.
979
00:41:05,234 --> 00:41:09,004
But I also find him
poignant in a way.
980
00:41:09,005 --> 00:41:10,939
And when we were
making the movie,
981
00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:11,874
there were times
where we like,
982
00:41:11,875 --> 00:41:14,209
oh, this is kind of sad.
983
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:16,345
You remember when
Glen kills Chucky,
984
00:41:16,346 --> 00:41:18,779
and he chops him up and
he's just devastated.
985
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:20,147
And he's crying.
986
00:41:20,148 --> 00:41:22,316
And Jennifer Tilly is
like comforting him.
987
00:41:22,317 --> 00:41:24,685
We're all kind of like
getting a little like
988
00:41:24,686 --> 00:41:27,021
oh, this is sad.
989
00:41:27,022 --> 00:41:30,024
But people didn't respond
correctly at first. (laughs)
990
00:41:30,025 --> 00:41:32,126
- Glen/Glenda was the
first trans kid,
991
00:41:32,127 --> 00:41:35,129
doll trans kid, that was ever
portrayed in the movies.
992
00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:37,164
- It's maybe one of
the greatest things
993
00:41:37,165 --> 00:41:40,935
about "Seed" I think, is
this kind of transgender,
994
00:41:40,936 --> 00:41:42,136
you know, confused.
995
00:41:42,137 --> 00:41:44,171
- Sometimes I
feel like a boy.
996
00:41:44,172 --> 00:41:46,040
Sometimes I feel
like a girl.
997
00:41:46,041 --> 00:41:48,843
- And his parents
don't help.
998
00:41:48,844 --> 00:41:52,279
It's a big, parent's
please help.
999
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,216
- In my mission to make the
franchise gayer and gayer,
1000
00:41:55,217 --> 00:41:58,853
we address this in a
movie that maybe like
1001
00:41:58,854 --> 00:42:01,055
the audience
wasn't ready for.
1002
00:42:01,056 --> 00:42:02,990
- I don't think "Seed
of Chucky" was rejected
1003
00:42:02,991 --> 00:42:04,825
because of those themes.
1004
00:42:04,826 --> 00:42:06,160
I think the film
was embraced
1005
00:42:06,161 --> 00:42:08,963
by that niche part
of the audience.
1006
00:42:08,964 --> 00:42:12,166
- Now, people are more
interested in that.
1007
00:42:12,167 --> 00:42:14,969
- Don, in a strange way
through the Chucky movies
1008
00:42:14,970 --> 00:42:17,004
he sort of educates.
1009
00:42:17,005 --> 00:42:20,141
And makes people feel
compassion for people
1010
00:42:20,142 --> 00:42:21,942
that are not
like themselves.
1011
00:42:21,943 --> 00:42:23,277
- Partly you're like,
write what you know.
1012
00:42:23,278 --> 00:42:24,979
But I also, there's
just a part of me
1013
00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:27,014
that it amused me.
1014
00:42:27,015 --> 00:42:29,884
The idea of like kind of
turning what had become
1015
00:42:29,885 --> 00:42:32,219
a cultural icon
on its head,
1016
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:35,056
and making the franchise be
almost like an ambassador
1017
00:42:35,057 --> 00:42:37,992
for like gay horror fans.
1018
00:42:37,993 --> 00:42:40,327
- Gay people have always
embraced horror films,
1019
00:42:40,328 --> 00:42:43,330
because they've always been
able to relate to the
1020
00:42:43,331 --> 00:42:47,134
The Frankenstein monster
who's being persecuted
1021
00:42:47,135 --> 00:42:49,137
and aren't getting
a fair shake.
1022
00:42:50,605 --> 00:42:54,208
That's probably why they
gravitate towards horror
1023
00:42:54,209 --> 00:42:57,244
'cause they see themselves
in some of these characters.
1024
00:42:57,245 --> 00:42:58,946
- I think gay people
always liked horror movies,
1025
00:42:58,947 --> 00:43:01,282
'cause they're drama
queens. (laughs)
1026
00:43:01,283 --> 00:43:04,018
- I think perhaps it was
rejected more for the fact
1027
00:43:04,019 --> 00:43:06,020
that so much of it was
played for laughs,
1028
00:43:06,021 --> 00:43:07,254
and it was jokey
and silly.
1029
00:43:07,255 --> 00:43:09,190
- These films have
really evolved
1030
00:43:09,191 --> 00:43:11,992
from being a really
frightening first film,
1031
00:43:11,993 --> 00:43:13,761
to moving much
more into the area
1032
00:43:13,762 --> 00:43:15,262
of being horror comedies.
1033
00:43:15,263 --> 00:43:17,797
- The film was a little
too far over the top
1034
00:43:17,798 --> 00:43:20,200
in terms of the humor and
1035
00:43:20,201 --> 00:43:22,368
the outrageousness
of the storyline.
1036
00:43:22,369 --> 00:43:25,038
- This one sort of took
it all one step further.
1037
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:27,373
I don't know, it's sort of
spoofing on top of spoofing.
1038
00:43:27,374 --> 00:43:30,710
- You can catch their movie
in theaters next Halloween.
1039
00:43:30,711 --> 00:43:31,378
Thank you, Chucky.
1040
00:43:32,713 --> 00:43:35,081
- Fuck you very much.
1041
00:43:35,082 --> 00:43:37,250
- I think that was a little
too much for horror fans
1042
00:43:37,251 --> 00:43:40,220
who just go to see a
movie for blood and guts.
1043
00:43:40,221 --> 00:43:43,289
Horror fans really want
their scares and their gore.
1044
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:46,092
And even though the film
definitely had its gore
1045
00:43:46,093 --> 00:43:48,294
some really grotesque
death scenes.
1046
00:43:48,295 --> 00:43:50,830
- [Kyra] What is one of
your favorite death scenes?
1047
00:43:50,831 --> 00:43:54,200
- Glen accidentally
kills, uh...
1048
00:43:54,201 --> 00:43:55,668
- [Kyra] Are talking
about with the acid?
1049
00:43:55,669 --> 00:43:56,703
- Yeah.
1050
00:43:56,704 --> 00:43:57,338
- [Kyra] John Waters.
1051
00:43:57,872 --> 00:44:01,875
- John Waters. I liked that,
'cause it was accidental.
1052
00:44:01,876 --> 00:44:03,009
He didn't mean it.
1053
00:44:03,010 --> 00:44:04,978
- You know, he loved
the Chucky movies,
1054
00:44:04,979 --> 00:44:07,247
and he always wanted to
be a victim of Chucky.
1055
00:44:07,248 --> 00:44:08,848
You should ask
him about that.
1056
00:44:08,849 --> 00:44:10,216
- Well, I wanted to, yes.
1057
00:44:10,217 --> 00:44:12,952
So I was thrilled
to be injured
1058
00:44:12,953 --> 00:44:14,654
and thrown acid in my
face, even better.
1059
00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:15,655
(ominous music)
1060
00:44:15,656 --> 00:44:17,857
(glass shatters)
1061
00:44:17,858 --> 00:44:21,127
(Pete screams)
1062
00:44:21,128 --> 00:44:23,296
- But the first
day I remembered,
1063
00:44:23,297 --> 00:44:25,999
the first take was
Chucky was coming at me.
1064
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,001
He moves, it's
actually not like
1065
00:44:28,002 --> 00:44:30,036
they put that in later
and his mouth opens
1066
00:44:30,037 --> 00:44:30,905
and you hear
what he says.
1067
00:44:30,906 --> 00:44:32,005
So he's coming at me,
1068
00:44:32,006 --> 00:44:33,907
and then they say cut.
1069
00:44:33,908 --> 00:44:35,175
And you know,
he falls down.
1070
00:44:35,176 --> 00:44:36,743
Then all of a sudden
he looks up at me
1071
00:44:36,744 --> 00:44:37,810
and goes, "Fuck you."
1072
00:44:37,811 --> 00:44:39,779
It was the puppeteers
working him,
1073
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:41,347
which really
made me laugh.
1074
00:44:41,348 --> 00:44:45,018
- In "Seed of Chucky" Guy
Louthan played Don Mancini.
1075
00:44:45,019 --> 00:44:47,187
So if you look at the
credits in "Seed of Chucky,"
1076
00:44:47,188 --> 00:44:49,856
it says, Don Mancini
played by Guy Louthan,
1077
00:44:49,857 --> 00:44:51,291
who was the producer.
1078
00:44:51,292 --> 00:44:54,127
And I really felt like Don
should play Guy Louthan.
1079
00:44:54,128 --> 00:44:55,929
Play the actual
producer in the movie,
1080
00:44:55,930 --> 00:44:57,063
or play somebody else.
1081
00:44:57,064 --> 00:44:59,165
But he didn't
want to do it.
1082
00:44:59,166 --> 00:45:02,135
- Just Tony
playing himself.
1083
00:45:02,136 --> 00:45:04,737
And then the puppets getting
revenge on the puppeteer.
1084
00:45:04,738 --> 00:45:05,838
(strings scrape)
1085
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:06,873
(blood squishes)
1086
00:45:06,874 --> 00:45:10,343
(ominous music)
1087
00:45:10,344 --> 00:45:14,113
- Yeah, I think the
audience might have felt
1088
00:45:14,114 --> 00:45:16,148
that Don was being a
little too clever,
1089
00:45:16,149 --> 00:45:19,218
and a little too in-jokey
for their own taste.
1090
00:45:19,219 --> 00:45:22,187
- It would have been
absolutely de rigueur
1091
00:45:22,188 --> 00:45:24,890
for the people in
charge to say like,
1092
00:45:24,891 --> 00:45:26,792
"Okay, it's time to
get some new blood
1093
00:45:26,793 --> 00:45:27,993
(laughs) in here now,
1094
00:45:27,994 --> 00:45:29,495
'cause that didn't
work out so well."
1095
00:45:30,997 --> 00:45:33,065
But David didn't he
stayed loyal to me.
1096
00:45:33,066 --> 00:45:35,100
- He works so hard,
he cares so much.
1097
00:45:35,101 --> 00:45:36,835
I've never worked
with a director
1098
00:45:36,836 --> 00:45:39,037
that does not
lose his cool.
1099
00:45:39,038 --> 00:45:41,273
- You're under a clock, and
how are we gonna do this?
1100
00:45:41,274 --> 00:45:44,377
And it's kind of
constantly traumatic.
1101
00:45:45,878 --> 00:45:48,313
But that's a bonding
experience.
1102
00:45:48,314 --> 00:45:53,486
- So there is very much a
wonderful, familial flavor to
1103
00:45:53,753 --> 00:45:55,053
- You get really close.
1104
00:45:55,054 --> 00:45:56,989
I mean, you're
literally close.
1105
00:45:56,990 --> 00:45:59,024
You're sandwiched
under a desk,
1106
00:45:59,025 --> 00:46:02,194
or working side-by-side,
or on top of somebody.
1107
00:46:02,195 --> 00:46:04,930
And you have to really
find a collective mindset
1108
00:46:04,931 --> 00:46:07,032
to make the
character work.
1109
00:46:07,033 --> 00:46:09,067
I mean, if somebody's
doing the eyes,
1110
00:46:09,068 --> 00:46:10,168
and someone else
is doing the head,
1111
00:46:10,169 --> 00:46:12,137
the eyes have to lead
the head movement,
1112
00:46:12,138 --> 00:46:13,739
And usually there's
a blink in there,
1113
00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:14,906
and that's somebody else.
1114
00:46:14,907 --> 00:46:16,174
And if he's reacting
to something,
1115
00:46:16,175 --> 00:46:18,910
a brow needs to go up
while he's turning.
1116
00:46:18,911 --> 00:46:19,911
- What gives
over here yet?
1117
00:46:19,912 --> 00:46:21,113
Are we through here yet?
1118
00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:22,648
Give us us a bit of
the nasty thing,
1119
00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:23,516
then I want him to relax.
1120
00:46:23,516 --> 00:46:24,250
- [Puppeteer] Yeah.
1121
00:46:24,484 --> 00:46:27,085
- And then when he does
the turn to his left
1122
00:46:27,086 --> 00:46:29,087
lead with the left brow
1123
00:46:29,088 --> 00:46:32,224
going up along
with the turn.
1124
00:46:32,225 --> 00:46:34,159
- If each one of those
is a different person
1125
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,228
and you're trying to
think as one character,
1126
00:46:36,229 --> 00:46:39,831
you either get in sync really
quick, or it doesn't work.
1127
00:46:39,832 --> 00:46:40,999
- Oh shit.
1128
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,367
(thunder crashes)
1129
00:46:42,368 --> 00:46:46,706
(intense, low bass
ominous orchestral music)
1130
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,181
- With every new rebirth
1131
00:47:30,182 --> 00:47:33,084
of a film Chucky's look
changes a little bit.
1132
00:47:33,085 --> 00:47:36,921
In the first two films,
Chucky was possessed
1133
00:47:36,922 --> 00:47:38,956
by Charles Lee Ray,
I mean he still is.
1134
00:47:38,957 --> 00:47:41,125
But he was progressively
turning human,
1135
00:47:41,126 --> 00:47:42,927
which is for one
reason or another
1136
00:47:42,928 --> 00:47:45,029
not the case anymore.
1137
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:48,065
You know, there's a lot
of Chucky purists as I say
1138
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:50,234
that would say, "Oh, I
hate the way Chucky looks.
1139
00:47:50,235 --> 00:47:52,336
I wish he looked like he
did in the first film."
1140
00:47:52,337 --> 00:47:55,072
But if you follow the story
that wouldn't make sense.
1141
00:47:55,073 --> 00:47:57,041
- I watched the doll,
but not, of course,
1142
00:47:57,042 --> 00:47:58,376
I can't have a scene
with the doll.
1143
00:47:58,377 --> 00:48:02,747
You know, it was great to
be finally able to be there,
1144
00:48:02,748 --> 00:48:05,316
and be around and watch.
1145
00:48:05,317 --> 00:48:09,087
- Today, will be the first
time I've ever seen Chucky
1146
00:48:10,489 --> 00:48:12,723
in the plastic
version work.
1147
00:48:12,724 --> 00:48:16,327
(tinny piano music)
1148
00:48:16,328 --> 00:48:20,565
(moves to dramatic, bass
percussion and ominous
1149
00:48:22,801 --> 00:48:23,968
(metal clinks)
1150
00:48:23,969 --> 00:48:26,070
- In "Curse of Chucky,"
it's like a refresh
1151
00:48:26,071 --> 00:48:28,139
even though it's continuing
the same storyline,
1152
00:48:28,140 --> 00:48:30,107
you get the whole new
cast of characters,
1153
00:48:30,108 --> 00:48:32,877
primarily Nica, who's
played by Fiona Dourif,
1154
00:48:32,878 --> 00:48:34,111
Brad Dourif's daughter,
1155
00:48:34,112 --> 00:48:35,413
which is really fun
and interesting.
1156
00:48:35,414 --> 00:48:38,149
- And we don't get to work
with Brad all that often.
1157
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:40,117
All his stuff is
done ahead of time.
1158
00:48:40,118 --> 00:48:42,253
So he's kind of
on the periphery.
1159
00:48:42,254 --> 00:48:45,356
Although, when we did
"Curse of Chucky,"
1160
00:48:45,357 --> 00:48:49,160
he was on set everyday
that Fiona was working.
1161
00:48:49,161 --> 00:48:52,096
And he was there as
like the proud dad.
1162
00:48:52,097 --> 00:48:54,965
- He's been like interjecting
embarrassing stories
1163
00:48:54,966 --> 00:48:57,034
from my childhood.
- Yeah.
1164
00:48:57,035 --> 00:48:57,769
- You know, median's with-
- The press junket
1165
00:48:57,769 --> 00:48:58,737
will be fun.
1166
00:48:58,738 --> 00:48:59,904
(Fiona laughs)
1167
00:48:59,905 --> 00:49:01,238
- And we kind of
bonded as parents.
1168
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,875
Which is funny, 'cause
then I go to work
1169
00:49:04,876 --> 00:49:06,143
and I listen to his
voice coming out
1170
00:49:06,144 --> 00:49:07,945
of this doll while we're
trying to stab Fiona.
1171
00:49:07,946 --> 00:49:09,780
(Chucky screams)
1172
00:49:09,781 --> 00:49:11,881
(wood crashes)
1173
00:49:11,882 --> 00:49:13,383
(ominous music)
1174
00:49:13,384 --> 00:49:17,053
- I like that Nica is a
person who is in a
1175
00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:19,889
You don't see that depicted
often in horror movies,
1176
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:22,892
especially not as
the primary hero.
1177
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,128
- When I was cast
in the first one,
1178
00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:26,930
I was nervous that I wasn't
gonna take it seriously.
1179
00:49:26,931 --> 00:49:28,932
Because on set, you know,
1180
00:49:28,933 --> 00:49:31,000
there's this moving,
walking puppet,
1181
00:49:31,001 --> 00:49:33,069
and they play
my dad's voice.
1182
00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:34,204
And I was like,
"I think you guys
1183
00:49:34,205 --> 00:49:36,072
are just gonna have to
say it, say the words."
1184
00:49:36,073 --> 00:49:38,141
Because he sounds
like my dad.
1185
00:49:38,142 --> 00:49:41,110
- One quick,
decisive motion.
1186
00:49:41,111 --> 00:49:43,012
'Cause he's like fallen
and now he's looking right
1187
00:49:43,013 --> 00:49:44,280
back up at Nica.
1188
00:49:44,281 --> 00:49:46,916
- Don said no, he said
that he wanted it
1189
00:49:46,917 --> 00:49:49,152
to be the recording.
1190
00:49:49,153 --> 00:49:51,120
And it actually
really helped,
1191
00:49:51,121 --> 00:49:53,990
'cause there was something
so unnerving about it.
1192
00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:57,026
- I'm gonna
kill you slow.
1193
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:58,328
(Nica laughs)
1194
00:49:58,329 --> 00:50:01,097
- But having my dad's voice
was helpful, ultimately.
1195
00:50:01,098 --> 00:50:05,001
It was, really creepy.
1196
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:05,970
- Thank you.
1197
00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:09,038
- Ugh.
1198
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:10,908
- When we started off
it was 30 years ago, and
1199
00:50:12,243 --> 00:50:16,813
Fiona was, you know, like
a year old, or something.
1200
00:50:16,814 --> 00:50:18,214
- Here's
five-year-old Fiona,
1201
00:50:18,215 --> 00:50:20,149
and there's
12-year-old Fiona.
1202
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:21,217
And she doesn't
remember any of this.
1203
00:50:21,218 --> 00:50:22,952
But there were
certain events
1204
00:50:22,953 --> 00:50:24,153
and screenings where
I would see her.
1205
00:50:24,154 --> 00:50:27,156
And then she grew up, and
she became an actress.
1206
00:50:27,157 --> 00:50:31,027
She came in on "Curse"
and she read for
1207
00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,730
the role of the
bitchy older sister.
1208
00:50:33,731 --> 00:50:34,931
And she was really good.
1209
00:50:34,932 --> 00:50:36,399
But I was looking at
her and was like,
1210
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,235
"I actually think she'd be
really good as the lead."
1211
00:50:39,236 --> 00:50:42,105
And it's just like, wow
that just would be
1212
00:50:42,106 --> 00:50:44,340
an odd thing to find the
lead in our backyard.
1213
00:50:44,341 --> 00:50:46,309
You know the daughter of
the guy who plays Chucky.
1214
00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:49,212
- Fans have been asking
for really wanting
1215
00:50:49,213 --> 00:50:53,082
a return to the kind
of straightforward,
1216
00:50:53,083 --> 00:50:55,919
legitimately scary
tone that we had
1217
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,053
in the first
couple of movies.
1218
00:50:57,054 --> 00:50:58,988
- Well Don Mancini did
a very clever thing.
1219
00:50:58,989 --> 00:51:02,091
Was when his budget got
slashed so drastically
1220
00:51:02,092 --> 00:51:04,027
when it came to doing
"Curse of Chucky,"
1221
00:51:04,028 --> 00:51:05,995
and "Cult of Chucky."
1222
00:51:05,996 --> 00:51:07,997
Did what a lot of low
budget filmmakers do
1223
00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:10,132
is set their movies
in one location.
1224
00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:13,969
You're able to tell a
very claustrophobic story.
1225
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:16,805
- When you're filming
usually on a limited budget
1226
00:51:16,806 --> 00:51:19,041
in one or two locations,
1227
00:51:19,042 --> 00:51:22,344
it often gives
you bumpers.
1228
00:51:22,345 --> 00:51:25,847
You got to find it in there,
you can't find it out there.
1229
00:51:25,848 --> 00:51:27,115
You can't find
it up there.
1230
00:51:27,116 --> 00:51:29,151
You got to find
it right in here.
1231
00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:32,220
When we did "Insidious" it
was all in one location.
1232
00:51:32,221 --> 00:51:35,290
Being in a house is
especially claustrophobic.
1233
00:51:35,291 --> 00:51:38,260
You're in this space
and what's going on is
1234
00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:41,196
it's walking down the
hallway, it's in the window.
1235
00:51:41,197 --> 00:51:43,999
It's not on the streets,
it's in your house.
1236
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,069
But it's all here, it's
all on top of you.
1237
00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:50,372
And when horror is on top
of you, it's really scary.
1238
00:51:50,373 --> 00:51:53,075
- What happened to all horror
it seemed like at first
1239
00:51:53,076 --> 00:51:56,244
it was scary, then
it went so ugly,
1240
00:51:56,245 --> 00:51:58,046
like it got like
torture porn.
1241
00:51:58,047 --> 00:51:59,915
And then it got funny.
1242
00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:01,083
And then it got
to be ridiculous
1243
00:52:01,084 --> 00:52:02,918
that it wasn't
funny anymore.
1244
00:52:02,919 --> 00:52:04,987
- By Scream 3 it
felt like they knew
1245
00:52:04,988 --> 00:52:06,955
they were in a
horror movie.
1246
00:52:06,956 --> 00:52:09,157
It almost started to
fell like a "Scary Movie"
1247
00:52:09,158 --> 00:52:09,993
which was coming out
at the same time.
1248
00:52:09,994 --> 00:52:11,860
(eerie music)
1249
00:52:11,861 --> 00:52:14,129
- Oh, shit.
1250
00:52:14,130 --> 00:52:16,231
- And then you had to go
back to still being scary.
1251
00:52:16,232 --> 00:52:17,899
- That's one of the
reasons why I think he went
1252
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:20,802
for the more scare
approach than,
1253
00:52:20,803 --> 00:52:22,104
you know, "Seed,
and "Bride,"
1254
00:52:22,105 --> 00:52:25,173
because he was working
with less money.
1255
00:52:25,174 --> 00:52:28,143
It needed to be scary to
really win people over.
1256
00:52:28,144 --> 00:52:30,379
- I mean we're trying
to bring Chucky back
1257
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:36,818
to being a very sinister
and very sick, scary entity.
1258
00:52:36,819 --> 00:52:37,787
(Chucky screams)
1259
00:52:37,787 --> 00:52:38,688
(girl screams)
1260
00:52:38,688 --> 00:52:39,389
(body thuds)
1261
00:52:39,822 --> 00:52:41,189
- This is the first time I've
actually physically been
1262
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:43,158
on a set with him
and directed him.
1263
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:46,028
Now, of course, it's more
fun to bring his daughter
1264
00:52:46,029 --> 00:52:49,064
into the series as this
particular movie's star.
1265
00:52:49,065 --> 00:52:53,001
- Don Mancini told me
when he cast you he said,
1266
00:52:53,002 --> 00:52:55,370
"You know, the thing
about Fiona is,
1267
00:52:55,371 --> 00:52:59,107
and the reason why is she
actually looks like somebody
1268
00:52:59,108 --> 00:53:01,376
who this could
really happen to.
1269
00:53:01,377 --> 00:53:03,745
- But then we had her come
back in and read for Nica,
1270
00:53:03,746 --> 00:53:05,914
and she was really great.
1271
00:53:05,915 --> 00:53:07,282
- She had to audition
quite a few times.
1272
00:53:07,283 --> 00:53:09,450
How many times did you have
to audition for Chucky?
1273
00:53:09,451 --> 00:53:10,118
- [Fiona] Three times.
1274
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:11,252
- Three times,
then she had
1275
00:53:11,253 --> 00:53:13,020
to audition three
times for that.
1276
00:53:13,021 --> 00:53:15,990
So she got it because
she earned it.
1277
00:53:15,991 --> 00:53:18,993
- There's a new person
coming in playing the lead.
1278
00:53:18,994 --> 00:53:21,095
How's this dynamic
gonna shift?
1279
00:53:21,096 --> 00:53:22,229
And is she gonna
be a team player?
1280
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:24,098
She's more than
a team player.
1281
00:53:24,099 --> 00:53:25,399
She's literally
part of the group,
1282
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,102
and you feel like she's been
there since the beginning,
1283
00:53:28,103 --> 00:53:30,171
because she gets it, and
she gets how it works.
1284
00:53:30,172 --> 00:53:32,973
And to help us get
what we need,
1285
00:53:32,974 --> 00:53:35,076
because the puppet's
eyes can really only turn
1286
00:53:35,077 --> 00:53:38,112
this far to the right,
so she'll adjust.
1287
00:53:38,113 --> 00:53:40,481
And she just had it
from the very beginning.
1288
00:53:40,482 --> 00:53:44,118
- Also, for whatever reason
she has this incredible
1289
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:47,221
to register
trauma and pain.
1290
00:53:47,222 --> 00:53:49,123
- In order for the actors
to truly believe they're
1291
00:53:49,124 --> 00:53:51,025
in danger, whatever
it may be,
1292
00:53:51,026 --> 00:53:55,296
there's a level of
bringing the audience in to
1293
00:53:55,297 --> 00:53:58,065
almost forget that
they're in danger,
1294
00:53:58,066 --> 00:54:00,134
or you're in danger
in the next moment.
1295
00:54:00,135 --> 00:54:02,236
- I mean, fear is such
an interesting emotion.
1296
00:54:02,237 --> 00:54:06,140
And the elements that add
up to fear, real fear,
1297
00:54:06,141 --> 00:54:08,242
cross that line obviously,
between being imaginary
1298
00:54:08,243 --> 00:54:10,144
and something really
happening to you.
1299
00:54:10,145 --> 00:54:11,278
- I think it's an
incredible genre.
1300
00:54:11,279 --> 00:54:13,981
He stakes are higher
than in, you know,
1301
00:54:13,982 --> 00:54:16,150
like a typical
drama or comedy.
1302
00:54:16,151 --> 00:54:17,885
The stakes are higher
in a different way.
1303
00:54:17,886 --> 00:54:19,320
The world that you
create is one
1304
00:54:19,321 --> 00:54:22,022
that you have to live in
your mind in different way.
1305
00:54:22,023 --> 00:54:23,958
- Your body doesn't
know you're pretending.
1306
00:54:23,959 --> 00:54:25,993
When you're
frightened in a film,
1307
00:54:25,994 --> 00:54:28,262
or if you put yourself
there, weird things happen.
1308
00:54:28,263 --> 00:54:31,031
I mean, you start sweating,
your hands get cold.
1309
00:54:31,032 --> 00:54:32,800
Often, for me, it's
always crying.
1310
00:54:32,801 --> 00:54:34,969
- But in crying scenes
1311
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:37,204
there is like no
veil to cover you.
1312
00:54:37,205 --> 00:54:39,807
Even in real life, like,
sometimes those cries
1313
00:54:39,808 --> 00:54:41,041
that you just can't stop,
1314
00:54:41,042 --> 00:54:44,011
when they get
captured on camera,
1315
00:54:44,012 --> 00:54:46,247
it's almost like a glimpse
into your real soul.
1316
00:54:46,248 --> 00:54:47,948
- The real-er you
are the better.
1317
00:54:47,949 --> 00:54:49,216
Bring your emotions,
bringing your timing,
1318
00:54:49,217 --> 00:54:51,118
bring your realness to
it, bring your truth.
1319
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:54,021
- It almost sounds sadistic
that I need to like,
1320
00:54:54,022 --> 00:54:57,124
I want to see you
register this kind of pain
1321
00:54:57,125 --> 00:54:59,827
that I've seen you do
in real life. (laughs)
1322
00:54:59,828 --> 00:55:01,195
Because I'm your
friend now,
1323
00:55:01,196 --> 00:55:03,063
and I saw you go through
this horrible experience.
1324
00:55:03,064 --> 00:55:05,032
Let's use that
in the movie.
1325
00:55:05,033 --> 00:55:07,066
- It has sometimes
there's been moments
1326
00:55:07,067 --> 00:55:09,969
that have taken me into
places I almost didn't want
1327
00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:12,138
to go, but I went anyway.
1328
00:55:12,139 --> 00:55:14,207
Because there's that
little part of you going,
1329
00:55:14,208 --> 00:55:16,810
this is important,
this is happening.
1330
00:55:16,811 --> 00:55:18,812
Go, go, go, go, go.
1331
00:55:18,813 --> 00:55:21,114
And I won't
censor myself.
1332
00:55:21,115 --> 00:55:24,250
- Which I think makes a great
actor I think when you do
1333
00:55:24,251 --> 00:55:27,086
you're communicating with
the people who are watching.
1334
00:55:27,087 --> 00:55:29,122
- Stuff that you
experience in real life,
1335
00:55:29,123 --> 00:55:31,257
you go, we'll we can use that
as fodder in the next film.
1336
00:55:31,258 --> 00:55:33,226
And I want to take the
character that you play
1337
00:55:33,227 --> 00:55:35,161
in the Chucky franchise
to that place
1338
00:55:35,162 --> 00:55:37,030
that I know that
you're able to go.
1339
00:55:37,031 --> 00:55:38,532
But people haven't seen
you go there before.
1340
00:55:41,068 --> 00:55:44,003
She's a great friend,
1341
00:55:44,004 --> 00:55:46,806
and just a really
inspiring collaborator.
1342
00:55:46,807 --> 00:55:49,643
(eerie tinny piano music)
1343
00:55:52,112 --> 00:55:56,450
(moves to dramatic
ominous orchestral music)
1344
00:56:47,301 --> 00:56:51,037
- When you work on a Chucky
film you have the task
1345
00:56:51,038 --> 00:56:53,139
of doing the same thing
over and over again
1346
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:54,874
until the doll does
what he's supposed
1347
00:56:54,875 --> 00:56:56,075
to do perfectly right.
1348
00:56:56,076 --> 00:56:58,211
Simple things
take awhile.
1349
00:56:58,212 --> 00:57:00,747
- If people had more
of an idea of what went
1350
00:57:00,748 --> 00:57:04,117
into animating a movie,
1351
00:57:04,118 --> 00:57:06,919
or for that matter,
animating Chucky. (laughs)
1352
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,186
I think people would have
1353
00:57:08,187 --> 00:57:11,990
a much bigger reverence
for those kind of movies.
1354
00:57:11,991 --> 00:57:15,060
Because it's this whole
other level of complication.
1355
00:57:15,061 --> 00:57:18,030
- It's not just us doing
the animatronic puppet
1356
00:57:18,031 --> 00:57:19,831
and making it come alive,
and everything works.
1357
00:57:19,832 --> 00:57:21,133
We have to work
with Fiona,
1358
00:57:21,134 --> 00:57:23,335
and Don has to work
with us to find an angle
1359
00:57:23,336 --> 00:57:26,204
that makes the limitations
of the puppeteers,
1360
00:57:26,205 --> 00:57:29,875
or the fact that he can't
do certain things work.
1361
00:57:29,876 --> 00:57:32,344
So we really
have to connect,
1362
00:57:32,345 --> 00:57:36,048
and we have to work as a
team to just get a shot.
1363
00:57:36,049 --> 00:57:40,520
(Nica screams)
(Chucky screams)
1364
00:57:42,989 --> 00:57:43,890
(knife scrapes)
(Nica screams)
1365
00:57:43,891 --> 00:57:45,223
(Nica breathes heavily)
1366
00:57:45,224 --> 00:57:49,094
- You have to focus on the
moving, the moving puppet,
1367
00:57:49,095 --> 00:57:52,097
and block out all of
the people around him
1368
00:57:52,098 --> 00:57:54,933
that are having like rods
up his ass and stuff.
1369
00:57:54,934 --> 00:57:55,835
- Oh, dear!
1370
00:57:57,971 --> 00:57:59,004
- You don't get a
chance to be like,
1371
00:57:59,005 --> 00:58:00,072
"Well, I'll do
one this way,
1372
00:58:00,073 --> 00:58:01,206
and then I'll do
one that way."
1373
00:58:01,207 --> 00:58:05,110
Because once Chucky
does the right thing
1374
00:58:05,111 --> 00:58:06,812
and we've already spent
30 minutes on it,
1375
00:58:06,813 --> 00:58:08,046
you know we
gotta move on.
1376
00:58:08,047 --> 00:58:09,948
- When you have a character
that's not a human being
1377
00:58:09,949 --> 00:58:10,949
that you can't
just say, "Oh now,
1378
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:13,118
let's try it over here."
1379
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,021
When you have to plan that
stuff out that specifically,
1380
00:58:16,022 --> 00:58:17,789
just so you know where
he's gonna be looking,
1381
00:58:17,790 --> 00:58:19,291
what his action
is gonna be,
1382
00:58:19,292 --> 00:58:22,260
'cause it may take several
to get that action done.
1383
00:58:22,261 --> 00:58:25,230
- So I think if it was
any other sort of series,
1384
00:58:25,231 --> 00:58:26,999
I think there would be a
bit more of a disconnect
1385
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,267
between all of the
people involved.
1386
00:58:29,268 --> 00:58:31,737
Because you'd all have your
little piece of the puzzle,
1387
00:58:31,738 --> 00:58:33,171
and it would all plug in.
1388
00:58:33,172 --> 00:58:36,041
Here, we all
have to plug in
1389
00:58:36,042 --> 00:58:38,377
just to get each shot
and make it work.
1390
00:58:38,378 --> 00:58:45,051
- You're the last one
standing, so to speak.
1391
00:58:47,020 --> 00:58:49,121
- Yeah, when you're acting
with Chucky, Chucky's a
1392
00:58:49,122 --> 00:58:51,990
that is walking, and
talking and moving,
1393
00:58:51,991 --> 00:58:55,060
which it makes it easier
than acting to an X.
1394
00:58:55,061 --> 00:58:58,263
- So you never actually
killed Andy Barclay, did
1395
00:58:58,264 --> 00:59:00,899
- I was really excited
and happy when I got
1396
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:02,401
the call from Don
for "Curse."
1397
00:59:02,402 --> 00:59:06,070
He told me, "I'm trying to
write something in for you.
1398
00:59:06,071 --> 00:59:08,005
I got to get it
approved by the studio.
1399
00:59:08,006 --> 00:59:10,074
I don't want you to
get your hopes up."
1400
00:59:10,075 --> 00:59:13,110
- It was like a test to
see how that would go.
1401
00:59:13,111 --> 00:59:14,012
- And so I read it,
and I loved the scene
1402
00:59:14,013 --> 00:59:16,013
that he had for Andy.
1403
00:59:16,014 --> 00:59:17,148
I thought it was fun.
1404
00:59:17,149 --> 00:59:19,150
I got to get a little
bit of revenge
1405
00:59:19,151 --> 00:59:20,684
and shoot him
with a shotgun.
1406
00:59:20,685 --> 00:59:21,586
(shotgun fires)
1407
00:59:21,587 --> 00:59:24,355
- The fan response
was really positive.
1408
00:59:24,356 --> 00:59:26,090
- And they were really
excited to see me in that
1409
00:59:26,091 --> 00:59:28,059
- And he did really well.
1410
00:59:28,060 --> 00:59:30,595
It's a nice group of
all of us players
1411
00:59:31,730 --> 00:59:33,030
that have worked
together on these.
1412
00:59:33,031 --> 00:59:35,199
- You know one of the
reasons I like to keep
1413
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,034
a lot of the same
people around,
1414
00:59:37,035 --> 00:59:40,971
because you know you
work well together.
1415
00:59:40,972 --> 00:59:42,139
- Well, it was like
having a reparatory group.
1416
00:59:42,140 --> 00:59:44,141
You don't even have
to talk barely.
1417
00:59:44,142 --> 00:59:46,277
You're one step ahead 'cause
you know how everybody
1418
00:59:46,278 --> 00:59:48,045
and what's their strong
points, their weak points.
1419
00:59:48,046 --> 00:59:50,047
- It because a shorthand.
1420
00:59:50,048 --> 00:59:52,717
You realize when
you're filming movies
1421
00:59:53,852 --> 00:59:58,956
time is your best friend
and your worst enemy.
1422
00:59:58,957 --> 01:00:01,926
Everything's a shot,
I'm fighting the sun,
1423
01:00:01,927 --> 01:00:03,327
I'm fighting the light.
1424
01:00:03,328 --> 01:00:04,995
You're always fighting
something in the movies.
1425
01:00:04,996 --> 01:00:07,131
- And you know you're
gonna be working
1426
01:00:07,132 --> 01:00:09,900
these long hours under
intense conditions.
1427
01:00:09,901 --> 01:00:10,968
- There's a book,
"Good to Great"
1428
01:00:10,969 --> 01:00:13,170
and it says put good
people on the bus with you,
1429
01:00:13,171 --> 01:00:15,272
so no matter what
direction you go in,
1430
01:00:15,273 --> 01:00:18,142
that you know your team
of people on that bus,
1431
01:00:18,143 --> 01:00:19,977
that they're just
down ass people.
1432
01:00:19,978 --> 01:00:21,712
- You're forced to
be in environment
1433
01:00:21,713 --> 01:00:23,114
with the same people.
1434
01:00:23,115 --> 01:00:27,218
And you really have no other
choice but to make these
1435
01:00:27,219 --> 01:00:29,153
- There's something
about creating something,
1436
01:00:29,154 --> 01:00:31,021
a piece of art
with somebody,
1437
01:00:31,022 --> 01:00:34,125
that somehow bonds you
in a really cool way.
1438
01:00:34,126 --> 01:00:37,061
- But when the circumstances
are particularly challenging
1439
01:00:37,062 --> 01:00:40,097
then you kind of bond even
more like we did on "Cult."
1440
01:00:40,098 --> 01:00:42,967
You know, we were
shooting in blizzards,
1441
01:00:42,968 --> 01:00:45,169
in 40 degree below
temperatures. (chuckles)
1442
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:49,173
(intense, dramatic brass
orchestral music)
1443
01:00:49,174 --> 01:00:51,543
- [Director] Here
we go, and action.
1444
01:00:56,047 --> 01:00:58,916
And he goes back to
being dead, very good.
1445
01:00:58,917 --> 01:01:00,217
And cut!
1446
01:01:00,218 --> 01:01:03,920
- We were in Winnipeg
in the winter.
1447
01:01:03,921 --> 01:01:05,955
It was like negative
42 when we arrived,
1448
01:01:05,956 --> 01:01:07,223
and it didn't
even matter.
1449
01:01:07,224 --> 01:01:09,259
- We were literally
joined at the hip
1450
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:12,061
through the whole
production process.
1451
01:01:12,062 --> 01:01:15,098
Because there isn't a day
where Chucky doesn't work.
1452
01:01:15,099 --> 01:01:16,299
But we know each other
and there's a shorthand,
1453
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:18,902
and we compliment each
other really well.
1454
01:01:18,903 --> 01:01:22,039
Everything's great. Look!
1455
01:01:23,707 --> 01:01:25,141
(crew member laughs)
1456
01:01:25,142 --> 01:01:27,877
- You're basically
climbing mountain together.
1457
01:01:27,878 --> 01:01:29,913
And you have to have
each other's back.
1458
01:01:29,914 --> 01:01:31,481
And you know you
can't do it alone.
1459
01:01:31,482 --> 01:01:35,084
And if you are successful in
scaling the mountain
1460
01:01:35,085 --> 01:01:37,053
you sort of like, oh my
god, we're awesome together.
1461
01:01:37,054 --> 01:01:37,955
- [Director] Drill.
1462
01:01:37,956 --> 01:01:40,256
(drill whirs)
1463
01:01:40,257 --> 01:01:43,159
- Don's gotten so confident
in his story telling
1464
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,928
he's starting to
experiment now,
1465
01:01:44,929 --> 01:01:46,196
with the visual side
of it a lot more.
1466
01:01:46,197 --> 01:01:48,898
- It's very
deliberately surreal,
1467
01:01:48,899 --> 01:01:50,266
and kind of trippy.
1468
01:01:50,267 --> 01:01:53,136
Because you're dealing
with people who are insane.
1469
01:01:53,137 --> 01:01:55,238
- Four years after
"Curse" continuing
1470
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,307
that storyline with Nica
in a mental institute,
1471
01:01:57,308 --> 01:01:59,209
and you got a fun cast
of characters there
1472
01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:00,944
with the people
inside of it.
1473
01:02:00,945 --> 01:02:03,980
- They have schizophrenia,
or whatever it is.
1474
01:02:03,981 --> 01:02:06,916
You have people on drugs.
1475
01:02:06,917 --> 01:02:08,918
You have people
getting hypnotized.
1476
01:02:08,919 --> 01:02:11,054
You have dream sequences.
1477
01:02:11,055 --> 01:02:12,855
- It plays a lot
with roles.
1478
01:02:12,856 --> 01:02:13,957
So it's like
role playing,
1479
01:02:13,958 --> 01:02:16,125
and who's crazy, and
who's not crazy?
1480
01:02:16,126 --> 01:02:18,228
- Part of what we
wanted to do was like
1481
01:02:18,229 --> 01:02:21,931
a new genre, a new
feel, a new aesthetic.
1482
01:02:21,932 --> 01:02:23,299
- It's all very
monochromatic,
1483
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,868
and then Chucky walks in
and he's all bright stripes,
1484
01:02:25,869 --> 01:02:27,036
and he stands out.
1485
01:02:27,037 --> 01:02:29,973
- So the red hair and
blood really pops.
1486
01:02:29,974 --> 01:02:32,509
(ominous music)
1487
01:02:35,913 --> 01:02:38,314
- The "Child's Play"
franchise is a little
1488
01:02:38,315 --> 01:02:41,150
in horror franchises,
that I think it's kind of
1489
01:02:41,151 --> 01:02:44,187
a gateway drug to horror
for a lot of children.
1490
01:02:44,188 --> 01:02:46,856
For obvious reasons,
'cause it's a doll.
1491
01:02:46,857 --> 01:02:48,091
And so they key
in to that.
1492
01:02:48,092 --> 01:02:50,093
But so Andy was
their hero,
1493
01:02:50,094 --> 01:02:51,494
and so they've
all grown up.
1494
01:02:51,495 --> 01:02:55,666
And now, they're vaguely
disaffected 20 somethings.
1495
01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:58,401
They're like, "Andy's
got to come back."
1496
01:02:58,402 --> 01:03:02,104
So the challenge was to bring
Andy back into the story,
1497
01:03:02,105 --> 01:03:04,139
but in a way that
would surprise them.
1498
01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:05,475
- And I think it
was really fun,
1499
01:03:06,909 --> 01:03:09,478
as an actor, to
reprise a role,
1500
01:03:09,479 --> 01:03:13,181
that has been a topic in my
life since I was
1501
01:03:13,182 --> 01:03:16,084
And now, I get to put
some life into what Andy
1502
01:03:16,085 --> 01:03:18,253
would be like had he
survived that childhood.
1503
01:03:18,254 --> 01:03:21,456
- And you would have
aspects of PTSD.
1504
01:03:21,457 --> 01:03:24,993
And how would that manifest
in your life as a
1505
01:03:24,994 --> 01:03:26,429
- He has clearly
struggled with
1506
01:03:27,563 --> 01:03:30,198
the effects that Chucky
has had on his life,
1507
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:33,902
and his inability
to move past it
1508
01:03:33,903 --> 01:03:35,203
with others in a
relationship.
1509
01:03:35,204 --> 01:03:37,105
And probably even
within himself.
1510
01:03:37,106 --> 01:03:40,375
So the way we left it
from "Curse of Chucky"
1511
01:03:40,376 --> 01:03:44,313
I think Andy torturing this
doll for the past four years
1512
01:03:44,314 --> 01:03:46,682
is the perfect route that
Andy should have gone.
1513
01:03:46,683 --> 01:03:48,685
(Chucky screams)
1514
01:03:50,486 --> 01:03:52,854
- This was the first time
that I had ever done
1515
01:03:52,855 --> 01:03:54,122
that was written for me.
1516
01:03:54,123 --> 01:03:59,194
I just had way
more confidence.
1517
01:03:59,195 --> 01:04:01,196
I was like way
more relaxed.
1518
01:04:01,197 --> 01:04:03,965
It just made it
so much more fun.
1519
01:04:03,966 --> 01:04:05,967
- In the "Cult of Chucky"
1520
01:04:05,968 --> 01:04:07,803
there was an actor
that I slit his throat
1521
01:04:07,804 --> 01:04:09,037
in "Curse of Chucky".
1522
01:04:09,038 --> 01:04:10,172
And he was playing
a totally
1523
01:04:10,173 --> 01:04:12,074
different character,
Adam Hurtig.
1524
01:04:12,075 --> 01:04:13,975
- Well, "Curse of
Chucky" was kind of
1525
01:04:13,976 --> 01:04:17,212
a formative film
experience for me.
1526
01:04:17,213 --> 01:04:19,981
I was super intimated to
not only work with Don,
1527
01:04:19,982 --> 01:04:21,249
but to work with
Fiona, as well.
1528
01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:25,220
Not only did I come
in later on during
1529
01:04:25,221 --> 01:04:28,390
the filming process, but I
also have to die on camera.
1530
01:04:28,391 --> 01:04:31,226
And Jennifer Tilly had to
kill me. So no pressure.
1531
01:04:31,227 --> 01:04:34,029
- And when we went to
Toronto, Don goes,
1532
01:04:34,030 --> 01:04:36,031
"Jennifer this actor," 'cause
I didn't met him on the set,
1533
01:04:36,032 --> 01:04:37,099
'cause I didn't have
any scenes with him.
1534
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,834
He goes, "This actor
that's in the Q&A,
1535
01:04:38,835 --> 01:04:39,736
you worked with
him before."
1536
01:04:39,736 --> 01:04:40,336
I go, "No, I didn't."
1537
01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:42,638
- How is it to be forgotten
by Jennifer Tilly?
1538
01:04:44,907 --> 01:04:47,342
Humbling. Whew.
1539
01:04:47,343 --> 01:04:50,011
- He goes, "Yes, in 'Curse of
Chucky' you slit his
1540
01:04:50,012 --> 01:04:51,080
- [Director] Action.
1541
01:04:52,682 --> 01:04:54,683
And fall.
1542
01:04:54,684 --> 01:04:56,718
(ominous music)
1543
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:58,853
- (gasps) Aw.
1544
01:04:58,854 --> 01:05:01,021
- But it was fun
to see her face
1545
01:05:01,022 --> 01:05:02,990
when she actually
did remember me.
1546
01:05:02,991 --> 01:05:05,059
- And I do remember
I slit his throat.
1547
01:05:05,060 --> 01:05:06,293
And I remember he was
such a good sport.
1548
01:05:06,294 --> 01:05:08,929
- Oh, wait.
1549
01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:11,966
Oh! And it was this
nice, kind of like,
1550
01:05:11,967 --> 01:05:14,902
"Yeah, I'm back."
1551
01:05:14,903 --> 01:05:16,103
- Wait a minute,
there's two of them?
1552
01:05:16,104 --> 01:05:18,906
- It was this cool idea
that Don was having me
1553
01:05:18,907 --> 01:05:19,974
come back as a
different character.
1554
01:05:19,975 --> 01:05:20,876
- You're sick.
1555
01:05:22,177 --> 01:05:23,879
And not in the
fun way like me.
1556
01:05:25,113 --> 01:05:27,081
- And I got a chance
to really riff with Don
1557
01:05:27,082 --> 01:05:28,949
to see what it was
like to create
1558
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:30,918
this character with
multiple personas.
1559
01:05:30,919 --> 01:05:32,320
- You're Mark
Zuckerberg, now.
1560
01:05:32,854 --> 01:05:33,555
- Yeah.
1561
01:05:34,956 --> 01:05:36,123
- Okay.
1562
01:05:36,124 --> 01:05:37,358
- I just think that's
so interesting
1563
01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:40,060
that Don just rehires people
to play another character.
1564
01:05:40,061 --> 01:05:41,128
It's like, "Oh you were
the cop in the last one,
1565
01:05:41,129 --> 01:05:42,997
but you can be this
psycho in this one.
1566
01:05:42,998 --> 01:05:44,198
No one's gonna notice."
1567
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:46,200
- Just kind of makes
you wonder who's next.
1568
01:05:46,201 --> 01:05:48,903
- It was fun to come
back for "Cult."
1569
01:05:48,904 --> 01:05:49,871
Don actually asked
me to come back
1570
01:05:49,872 --> 01:05:51,338
for "Curse" at one point.
1571
01:05:51,339 --> 01:05:53,073
Though I think the character
there he was considering
1572
01:05:53,074 --> 01:05:55,075
having me do was
Fiona's mom.
1573
01:05:55,076 --> 01:05:56,243
And I'm glad it
didn't work out,
1574
01:05:56,244 --> 01:05:58,245
because I'm really happy
to have come back as Kyle.
1575
01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,181
It's a character
that I am fond of.
1576
01:06:00,182 --> 01:06:01,949
That part of my
life is something
1577
01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:02,950
I'm super
nostalgic about.
1578
01:06:02,951 --> 01:06:04,919
- Andy sent me.
1579
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,020
We're gonna
have some fun.
1580
01:06:06,021 --> 01:06:07,121
- I like "Cult" a lot.
1581
01:06:07,122 --> 01:06:08,956
I think "Cult" is
shot beautifully.
1582
01:06:08,957 --> 01:06:10,157
I'm a fan to the
multiple Chuckys.
1583
01:06:10,158 --> 01:06:11,358
- And I know that
that was an idea
1584
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:14,228
that Don had wanted to do way
back with "Child's Play 3."
1585
01:06:14,229 --> 01:06:17,031
So it's great to see
that finally realized,
1586
01:06:17,032 --> 01:06:18,199
and I think it
came off great.
1587
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,900
- I think they're
all cute.
1588
01:06:19,901 --> 01:06:21,168
Like I love scene
where all three
1589
01:06:21,169 --> 01:06:22,103
of the Chuckys are
talking to each other.
1590
01:06:22,104 --> 01:06:23,871
And you have the
one armed Chucky
1591
01:06:23,872 --> 01:06:25,873
that's sort of a bad ass,
1592
01:06:25,874 --> 01:06:27,041
and you have the
innocent Chucky.
1593
01:06:27,042 --> 01:06:29,710
I just think that he's
really, really cute.
1594
01:06:29,711 --> 01:06:31,178
- I never felt so alive!
1595
01:06:31,179 --> 01:06:32,179
- Yeah, well,
you've been alive
1596
01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:35,449
for like two
minutes. (laughs)
1597
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:37,151
- I think it's important
to keep him practical.
1598
01:06:37,152 --> 01:06:38,185
I wish there was
more money for it,
1599
01:06:38,186 --> 01:06:39,920
but I'm glad it's
still practical.
1600
01:06:39,921 --> 01:06:41,956
- Yeah, we can't do
CGI with Chucky,
1601
01:06:41,957 --> 01:06:46,260
because it would take
away that pure element.
1602
01:06:46,261 --> 01:06:48,996
- Fans have made a point
of saying they don't want
1603
01:06:48,997 --> 01:06:50,965
to see CGI with Chucky.
1604
01:06:50,966 --> 01:06:53,200
They really,
really want a doll
1605
01:06:53,201 --> 01:06:55,336
that doesn't move
in perfect form.
1606
01:06:55,337 --> 01:06:59,272
As brilliant as Tony Gardner
is in bringing him to life,
1607
01:06:59,273 --> 01:07:03,209
there is still an
element that it's a doll,
1608
01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:06,312
and the movements are
different than human
1609
01:07:06,313 --> 01:07:09,048
And I think in there is
what makes it frightening.
1610
01:07:09,049 --> 01:07:13,019
I think if it was
perfect fluid form,
1611
01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:14,954
I don't think it would
be as frightening.
1612
01:07:14,955 --> 01:07:17,924
- When they just make
it digital it loses,
1613
01:07:17,925 --> 01:07:20,159
you know, definitely
loses something.
1614
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,162
- The eye and the brain
could make that distinction
1615
01:07:23,163 --> 01:07:27,000
between computer
generated and rubber.
1616
01:07:27,001 --> 01:07:29,002
And rubber's just, it's
just so much more effective
1617
01:07:29,003 --> 01:07:31,037
most of the time.
1618
01:07:31,038 --> 01:07:33,072
- When we're lucky enough
to have practical effects,
1619
01:07:33,073 --> 01:07:36,342
it's a win-win for
everybody, for the actor.
1620
01:07:36,343 --> 01:07:39,112
- Especially when the actors
are interacting with it.
1621
01:07:39,113 --> 01:07:41,147
- You're living
through something
1622
01:07:41,148 --> 01:07:43,249
which your body
is experiencing.
1623
01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:46,953
And for the viewer,
they're living through
1624
01:07:46,954 --> 01:07:48,054
what you're
living through,
1625
01:07:48,055 --> 01:07:49,122
because you're
living through it,
1626
01:07:49,123 --> 01:07:51,090
and you're presenting
it to them.
1627
01:07:51,091 --> 01:07:52,926
- I think it was such
an incredible experience
1628
01:07:52,927 --> 01:07:55,028
to use practical effects.
1629
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:58,197
In "Bad Hair," the hair
wraps around my ankle.
1630
01:07:58,198 --> 01:08:01,067
It pulls you and
then when I came in,
1631
01:08:01,068 --> 01:08:02,168
I had to like
cut the hair,
1632
01:08:02,169 --> 01:08:04,103
and all this blood
shoots out.
1633
01:08:04,104 --> 01:08:05,238
- People just
act differently
1634
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:07,907
when they have blood
gushing everywhere.
1635
01:08:07,908 --> 01:08:09,008
And they can
actually see it,
1636
01:08:09,009 --> 01:08:10,209
and it's actually
something tangible.
1637
01:08:10,210 --> 01:08:12,145
- It heightened
the performance
1638
01:08:12,146 --> 01:08:15,014
because I had this
contraption around me.
1639
01:08:15,015 --> 01:08:17,216
I had this blood that's
about to spew all over.
1640
01:08:17,217 --> 01:08:20,920
- It enhances the whole
reality of the film.
1641
01:08:20,921 --> 01:08:23,056
It's not pretend,
it's real.
1642
01:08:23,057 --> 01:08:24,891
- All of us got pulled
into this world
1643
01:08:24,892 --> 01:08:27,126
in a very real and
grounded way,
1644
01:08:27,127 --> 01:08:30,697
that we may not have been
able to be pulled into,
1645
01:08:30,698 --> 01:08:32,298
had it all been VFX.
1646
01:08:32,299 --> 01:08:36,102
- Your imagination doesn't
have to work nearly as hard
1647
01:08:36,103 --> 01:08:38,271
with a killer doll than
with a ping pong ball.
1648
01:08:38,272 --> 01:08:40,206
- It's hard when you're just
in front of a green screen
1649
01:08:40,207 --> 01:08:42,175
and it's like, "Now
imagine that you're guts
1650
01:08:42,176 --> 01:08:44,110
are being torn out
of your body."
1651
01:08:44,111 --> 01:08:45,178
Cool, how do I
imagine that?
1652
01:08:45,179 --> 01:08:46,212
But if you see
yourself in it,
1653
01:08:46,213 --> 01:08:48,181
you almost get that
feeling already.
1654
01:08:48,182 --> 01:08:50,116
- When you put all
of that together
1655
01:08:50,117 --> 01:08:52,018
it's like magic,
you get to play.
1656
01:08:52,019 --> 01:08:54,087
- And there's something
so powerful about that,
1657
01:08:54,088 --> 01:08:56,021
because you're not
imagining something,
1658
01:08:56,022 --> 01:08:59,024
you are really experiencing
something together.
1659
01:08:59,025 --> 01:09:02,995
- So I think that
Chucky is physical,
1660
01:09:02,996 --> 01:09:04,896
it really, really
helps the world.
1661
01:09:04,897 --> 01:09:06,231
- Chucky's a doll.
1662
01:09:06,232 --> 01:09:08,033
So that when he walks
around and you see it,
1663
01:09:08,034 --> 01:09:09,935
it looks like
Chucky. You know,
1664
01:09:09,936 --> 01:09:12,004
it looks like
the real thing.
1665
01:09:12,005 --> 01:09:14,239
So you watch the scene
and the scene is real.
1666
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,074
- He feels so real
in those movies,
1667
01:09:16,075 --> 01:09:17,242
because it was
all practical,
1668
01:09:17,243 --> 01:09:19,111
and you actually see
the light bouncing off.
1669
01:09:19,112 --> 01:09:21,179
And it feels, you can
tell the difference
1670
01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:24,149
between the CG
Yoda, and the Yoda
1671
01:09:24,150 --> 01:09:26,018
from "Empire
Strikes Back."
1672
01:09:26,019 --> 01:09:27,352
- You got to buy into it.
1673
01:09:27,353 --> 01:09:30,122
And when it's a practical
thing that looks real,
1674
01:09:30,123 --> 01:09:31,923
that helps you
buy into it.
1675
01:09:31,924 --> 01:09:33,158
- I think at least
having something there
1676
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:36,261
as sort of a marker,
really, really helps
1677
01:09:36,262 --> 01:09:38,897
the acting process, just
from an actor's standpoint.
1678
01:09:38,898 --> 01:09:39,898
- [Kyra] Yeah.
1679
01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:41,333
- And it saves money.
1680
01:09:41,334 --> 01:09:45,937
- I find that it's
financially, it's a saving
1681
01:09:45,938 --> 01:09:47,139
- [Tony] When we did
the last two films
1682
01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:48,874
that were direct
to video,
1683
01:09:48,875 --> 01:09:50,976
the budget was
substantially lower.
1684
01:09:50,977 --> 01:09:52,577
The budget for
the whole movie
1685
01:09:52,578 --> 01:09:54,212
was Kevin Yagher's
budget for building
1686
01:09:54,213 --> 01:09:56,014
the puppets for
the first film.
1687
01:09:56,015 --> 01:09:57,315
- They want it
to be more.
1688
01:09:57,316 --> 01:09:59,284
They want it to be cheaper
and have bigger stars,
1689
01:09:59,285 --> 01:10:01,787
and cost more and
music, and everything.
1690
01:10:01,788 --> 01:10:03,021
It's always like that.
1691
01:10:03,022 --> 01:10:05,290
- [Tony] And there were only
three puppeteers allowed
1692
01:10:05,291 --> 01:10:08,026
to go up from the United
States, including myself.
1693
01:10:08,027 --> 01:10:10,028
So I couldn't be behind
the monitor watching,
1694
01:10:10,029 --> 01:10:12,030
I had to focus on
performance, as well.
1695
01:10:12,031 --> 01:10:14,199
But we also lucked
into some local people
1696
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,234
that really rose
to the occasion,
1697
01:10:16,235 --> 01:10:18,970
and were really great,
and did an amazing job.
1698
01:10:18,971 --> 01:10:20,005
It would have been
nice to have had time
1699
01:10:20,006 --> 01:10:22,708
to rehearse prior
to shooting.
1700
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:25,877
(crew members laughing)
1701
01:10:25,878 --> 01:10:26,878
But we dove in and
we were rehearsing
1702
01:10:26,879 --> 01:10:28,046
while we were shooting.
1703
01:10:28,047 --> 01:10:30,148
And given the resources
and the time,
1704
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:32,785
I think everybody did
a really amazing job.
1705
01:10:34,153 --> 01:10:38,458
(urgent, aggressive ominous
full orchestral music)
1706
01:10:49,168 --> 01:10:53,438
(flowing, eerily enchanting
orchestral strings music)
1707
01:10:54,372 --> 01:10:58,643
(aggressively dangerous
dramatic full orchestral
1708
01:11:02,047 --> 01:11:04,849
(flowing, eerily enchanting
orchestral strings music)
1709
01:11:04,850 --> 01:11:06,283
(thunder crashes)
1710
01:11:06,284 --> 01:11:10,589
(flowing, eerily enchanting
orchestral strings music)
1711
01:11:14,493 --> 01:11:17,228
- And then the challenge
was to bring all
1712
01:11:17,229 --> 01:11:21,098
of these characters from
different aspects of the
1713
01:11:21,099 --> 01:11:23,068
and put them on
collision courses,
1714
01:11:23,568 --> 01:11:26,103
and see what happens.
1715
01:11:26,104 --> 01:11:27,271
- That's the thing about
the franchise is,
1716
01:11:27,272 --> 01:11:30,007
it's able to introduce
brand new elements,
1717
01:11:30,008 --> 01:11:33,144
and then weave them
in seamlessly.
1718
01:11:33,145 --> 01:11:35,045
And then they're just a
part of the franchise.
1719
01:11:35,046 --> 01:11:38,349
So by the time you see
in "Cult of Chucky" Nica
1720
01:11:38,350 --> 01:11:41,919
talking to Tiffany, it's
like, oh yeah that makes
1721
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,054
- What happens
when Andy Barclay
1722
01:11:44,055 --> 01:11:47,024
and Nica Pierce
come together?
1723
01:11:47,025 --> 01:11:49,960
- And Fiona is such a great
actress, first of all.
1724
01:11:49,961 --> 01:11:52,129
She is inspiringly good.
1725
01:11:52,130 --> 01:11:54,131
I really wish that we
got to do more together
1726
01:11:54,132 --> 01:11:56,033
than the one scene
that we had.
1727
01:11:56,034 --> 01:11:57,835
But the one scene
that we had was like
1728
01:11:57,836 --> 01:11:59,203
the highlight
of it for me.
1729
01:11:59,204 --> 01:12:02,072
Because I was really looking
forward to working with her.
1730
01:12:02,073 --> 01:12:03,875
- I just think it's more
1731
01:12:05,610 --> 01:12:08,913
interesting to play
the "bad guy".
1732
01:12:08,914 --> 01:12:09,914
- I'm done.
1733
01:12:09,915 --> 01:12:11,048
- You're done?
1734
01:12:11,049 --> 01:12:12,149
Yeah, that's interesting.
- I'm done.
1735
01:12:12,150 --> 01:12:13,951
I'm not doing
them anymore.
1736
01:12:13,952 --> 01:12:16,086
- I don't want to play
the victim anymore.
1737
01:12:16,087 --> 01:12:17,822
- [Kyra] You guys
should just reverse.
1738
01:12:17,823 --> 01:12:18,657
- We are.
- We are.
1739
01:12:18,658 --> 01:12:21,325
(laughs) We are.
1740
01:12:21,326 --> 01:12:26,297
(Nica laughing maniacally)
(Chucky laughs maniacally)
1741
01:12:26,298 --> 01:12:30,000
- You have Tiffany, who's
inhabiting Jennifer Tilly's
1742
01:12:30,001 --> 01:12:32,803
You have Fiona, which
is really genius,
1743
01:12:32,804 --> 01:12:34,305
inhabiting Chucky's body,
1744
01:12:34,306 --> 01:12:36,907
and you know Chucky is
her dad, Brad Dourif.
1745
01:12:36,908 --> 01:12:38,242
So she's basically
playing Brad.
1746
01:12:38,243 --> 01:12:40,412
- This last movie
I was just Like,
1747
01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:43,047
how did this happen?
1748
01:12:43,048 --> 01:12:45,049
How am I the lead of
this movie? (chuckles)
1749
01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:48,085
- She becomes Chucky,
ah, so brilliant.
1750
01:12:48,086 --> 01:12:50,955
That soul of
Chucky is in her.
1751
01:12:50,956 --> 01:12:52,188
- It would be
almost offensive
1752
01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:53,923
for anybody else
to be possessed
1753
01:12:53,924 --> 01:12:57,093
by Chucky, except
for Fiona.
1754
01:12:57,094 --> 01:12:58,161
Even with something weird,
incestuous and gross
1755
01:12:58,162 --> 01:12:59,896
about that you
could think,
1756
01:12:59,897 --> 01:13:00,930
it doesn't feel that
way at all. (laughs)
1757
01:13:00,931 --> 01:13:02,599
It feels really organic
1758
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,500
and I like it.
1759
01:13:03,501 --> 01:13:04,601
- [Kyra] Like it
should be that way.
1760
01:13:04,602 --> 01:13:05,202
- Yes.
- Yeah.
1761
01:13:05,603 --> 01:13:07,103
- Somebody else doing
Brad would be sacrilage.
1762
01:13:07,104 --> 01:13:10,240
- It's kind of weird,
because like there's
1763
01:13:10,241 --> 01:13:13,377
a young female version
of a guy you knew.
1764
01:13:13,978 --> 01:13:15,111
Well, that's Fiona.
1765
01:13:15,112 --> 01:13:17,247
- She is such a
brilliant actress.
1766
01:13:17,248 --> 01:13:20,216
And I saw her walking
out there, I saw Brad.
1767
01:13:20,217 --> 01:13:21,918
And it's weird, 'cause
I've never actually acted
1768
01:13:21,919 --> 01:13:23,987
with the real Brad.
1769
01:13:23,988 --> 01:13:25,989
I mean, off screen of course,
doing the voice overs.
1770
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:27,891
But when she was
walking towards me,
1771
01:13:27,892 --> 01:13:30,093
I mean it was really,
really sexy.
1772
01:13:30,094 --> 01:13:31,160
She really sort of
morphed into Brad.
1773
01:13:31,161 --> 01:13:34,097
- It was just
like a cacophony
1774
01:13:34,098 --> 01:13:36,266
of all of these emotions
going into doing it.
1775
01:13:36,267 --> 01:13:39,136
That I would have a
chance to play this thing
1776
01:13:40,137 --> 01:13:44,240
that my dad is
famous for doing.
1777
01:13:44,241 --> 01:13:46,142
- I felt a little
bit bad for Fiona,
1778
01:13:46,143 --> 01:13:48,912
because when Don was
like, "Quick, quick,"
1779
01:13:48,913 --> 01:13:50,847
I would be like
lunge at her,
1780
01:13:50,848 --> 01:13:53,016
and our teeth
would clatter.
1781
01:13:53,017 --> 01:13:55,051
- I would get her
lipstick all over me.
1782
01:13:55,052 --> 01:13:57,320
And so we couldn't
just go again,
1783
01:13:57,321 --> 01:14:00,189
'cause there was a big makeup
reset each time. (laughs)
1784
01:14:00,190 --> 01:14:02,058
- Then she'd pull away and
I'd see she had lipstick
1785
01:14:02,059 --> 01:14:04,193
all over her
face. (laughs)
1786
01:14:04,194 --> 01:14:07,830
And I said to her, "Fiona
when Entertainment Tonight
1787
01:14:07,831 --> 01:14:08,965
if I'm a good kisser,
1788
01:14:08,966 --> 01:14:10,266
will you just please
lie and say yes?"
1789
01:14:10,267 --> 01:14:12,035
- It was really fun
working with Jennifer.
1790
01:14:12,036 --> 01:14:13,804
I had wanted to
my whole life.
1791
01:14:15,139 --> 01:14:16,739
I think it was
intimidating
1792
01:14:16,740 --> 01:14:19,075
'cause she's so funny.
1793
01:14:19,076 --> 01:14:21,945
- I would like to kiss Fiona
in a controlled environment,
1794
01:14:21,946 --> 01:14:23,146
because I want to
redeem myself.
1795
01:14:23,147 --> 01:14:25,915
- Making this
movie was so fun.
1796
01:14:25,916 --> 01:14:27,784
It was like surreal fun.
1797
01:14:27,785 --> 01:14:29,018
I just had a ball.
1798
01:14:29,019 --> 01:14:30,354
You can ask your dad.
1799
01:14:31,422 --> 01:14:33,990
We were all kind of
laughing the whole time.
1800
01:14:33,991 --> 01:14:37,193
- [Kyra] Meanwhile my
dad is on the floor.
1801
01:14:37,194 --> 01:14:40,029
Your dad is always in the
corner on the floor.
1802
01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:41,130
- [Tony] Those are
her eye lines.
1803
01:14:41,131 --> 01:14:43,266
- Yeah.
(Fiona laughs loudly)
1804
01:14:43,267 --> 01:14:45,134
- [Kyra] By now, I may
as well introduce myself
1805
01:14:45,135 --> 01:14:47,470
as Tony's daughter,
and the filmmaker.
1806
01:14:47,471 --> 01:14:50,172
I set out to meet all these
people surrounding the
1807
01:14:50,173 --> 01:14:52,207
whose names had been a
big part of my childhood,
1808
01:14:52,208 --> 01:14:54,009
but I never had the
chance to meet.
1809
01:14:54,010 --> 01:14:56,144
I haven't officially
met everybody
1810
01:14:56,145 --> 01:14:58,313
who's worked on the
Chucky movies.
1811
01:14:58,314 --> 01:15:01,316
But I feel like I've
known Brad my whole life.
1812
01:15:01,317 --> 01:15:05,954
Like you have, it's so
surreal meeting you now,
1813
01:15:05,955 --> 01:15:07,823
because you've been a
part of my childhood
1814
01:15:07,824 --> 01:15:09,925
since I was
practically born.
1815
01:15:09,926 --> 01:15:11,159
But I'd never met
you 'til now,
1816
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,995
but you've killed
my dad before.
1817
01:15:12,996 --> 01:15:14,162
And the only-
1818
01:15:14,163 --> 01:15:16,231
- [Tony] And see I
never think of that.
1819
01:15:16,232 --> 01:15:18,133
There's all these weird
layers of all that.
1820
01:15:18,134 --> 01:15:20,135
- [Kyra] Like
everybody who've I've
1821
01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,471
been interviewing
for this is like
1822
01:15:22,872 --> 01:15:23,972
in one way or
another been a part
1823
01:15:23,973 --> 01:15:25,941
of how I've grown up.
1824
01:15:25,942 --> 01:15:27,075
- That's interesting.
1825
01:15:27,076 --> 01:15:28,810
- [Kyra] Chucky's
been so at the helm
1826
01:15:28,811 --> 01:15:30,679
of my family I think.
1827
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:31,314
So it's like kind of-
1828
01:15:31,681 --> 01:15:33,015
- You were how old when
it came into your life?
1829
01:15:33,016 --> 01:15:35,050
- You were a little one.
1830
01:15:35,051 --> 01:15:36,985
You were like
three-years-old,
1831
01:15:36,986 --> 01:15:39,154
- So you literally
grew up with somebody,
1832
01:15:39,155 --> 01:15:40,922
like you grew up with
them in the family.
1833
01:15:40,923 --> 01:15:42,858
- I view him as a
little brother.
1834
01:15:42,859 --> 01:15:44,026
Because I'm the youngest,
1835
01:15:44,027 --> 01:15:45,994
I always wanted a
little sibling.
1836
01:15:45,995 --> 01:15:47,062
I thought it was
very interesting
1837
01:15:47,063 --> 01:15:49,998
that Fiona and I both
share growing up
1838
01:15:49,999 --> 01:15:52,100
with this doll, but
in different aspects
1839
01:15:52,101 --> 01:15:54,803
of her dad was an actor, and
mine was the head puppeteer.
1840
01:15:54,804 --> 01:15:57,806
- I was maybe
six or five?
1841
01:15:57,807 --> 01:15:58,840
- You were young.
1842
01:15:58,841 --> 01:15:59,475
- [Fiona] I was young.
1843
01:16:00,743 --> 01:16:02,144
- Still a baby.
1844
01:16:02,145 --> 01:16:04,179
- I remember seeing him
in the voiceover booth,
1845
01:16:04,180 --> 01:16:06,014
and he was like,
screaming like he
1846
01:16:06,015 --> 01:16:08,984
was being burned alive.
1847
01:16:08,985 --> 01:16:11,153
Which I guess he was in
the movie. (chuckles)
1848
01:16:11,154 --> 01:16:14,923
And I ran and hid
under a desk?
1849
01:16:14,924 --> 01:16:16,992
- Yeah, you ran, no
ran out of the thing
1850
01:16:16,993 --> 01:16:18,927
into the parking lot.
1851
01:16:18,928 --> 01:16:21,229
- You start screaming
and crying.
1852
01:16:21,230 --> 01:16:25,267
You run back upstairs
into your bedroom,
1853
01:16:25,268 --> 01:16:29,371
and hopped on your bed
crying hysterically.
1854
01:16:29,372 --> 01:16:33,041
Telling everybody that you
weren't gonna go downstairs,
1855
01:16:33,042 --> 01:16:34,776
because the "bad
people" came.
1856
01:16:34,777 --> 01:16:36,912
The bad people were here.
1857
01:16:36,913 --> 01:16:39,881
And I look and
there's Tiffany
1858
01:16:39,882 --> 01:16:43,085
and Chucky sitting
on our coach.
1859
01:16:43,086 --> 01:16:44,853
- And poor little
thing came in
1860
01:16:44,854 --> 01:16:46,655
and heard her
daddy dying.
1861
01:16:46,656 --> 01:16:48,055
- (laughs) I did.
1862
01:16:48,056 --> 01:16:50,825
- Being burned to
death, and freaked out.
1863
01:16:50,826 --> 01:16:53,462
(Chucky screaming)
1864
01:16:55,397 --> 01:16:58,966
- I was so mad at him for
leaving the dolls out.
1865
01:16:58,967 --> 01:17:01,168
'Cause you were just
absolutely traumatized.
1866
01:17:01,169 --> 01:17:04,171
- I've been in a theater
and watched my dad (laughs)
1867
01:17:04,172 --> 01:17:06,240
watched his head explode
in a microwave,
1868
01:17:06,241 --> 01:17:08,042
or whatever, over
and over again.
1869
01:17:08,043 --> 01:17:10,311
And I don't like it.
1870
01:17:10,312 --> 01:17:12,246
And I still don't like
to watch him die.
1871
01:17:12,247 --> 01:17:13,247
- [Kyra] I feel like
that something,
1872
01:17:13,248 --> 01:17:15,082
'cause my dad dies in
one of the movies.
1873
01:17:15,083 --> 01:17:17,084
- [Fiona] (laughs)
Yeah, that's right.
1874
01:17:17,085 --> 01:17:18,152
- [Kyra] So I
feel like we have
1875
01:17:18,153 --> 01:17:20,020
this mutual understanding
of what it's like
1876
01:17:20,021 --> 01:17:21,222
to watch our parents die.
1877
01:17:21,223 --> 01:17:24,091
- To watch our
parents die, yeah.
1878
01:17:24,092 --> 01:17:28,028
- I love the scene where your
dad gets decapitated,
1879
01:17:28,029 --> 01:17:30,197
in "Seed of Chucky,"
that was hilarious.
1880
01:17:30,198 --> 01:17:33,167
But I also loved the
doll's reaction to it.
1881
01:17:33,168 --> 01:17:35,836
You know, they get
spattered by his blood
1882
01:17:35,837 --> 01:17:37,672
and they're all
turned on. (laughs)
1883
01:17:39,007 --> 01:17:40,141
- [Kyra] I watched that
1884
01:17:40,142 --> 01:17:41,175
when I was eight by
the way. (laughs)
1885
01:17:41,176 --> 01:17:43,110
- Did that
traumatize you?
1886
01:17:43,111 --> 01:17:45,179
- Yes. (Laughs)
(both laughs)
1887
01:17:45,180 --> 01:17:47,148
- But didn't he show you
the head and you know,
1888
01:17:47,149 --> 01:17:48,649
just like, "See
this is like?"
1889
01:17:48,650 --> 01:17:49,917
- [Kyra] No.
1890
01:17:49,918 --> 01:17:53,320
And my only knowledge
of you growing up
1891
01:17:53,321 --> 01:17:55,923
was that you kissed my
dad's decapitated head.
1892
01:17:55,924 --> 01:17:58,259
- I know, isn't that
gross? That's so gross.
1893
01:17:58,260 --> 01:18:00,928
I would have kissed his
regular head, too.
1894
01:18:00,929 --> 01:18:02,163
- [Kyra] Due to these
types of movies filming
1895
01:18:02,164 --> 01:18:04,899
so far away, they basically
formed second families
1896
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:06,066
while away from
their real ones.
1897
01:18:06,067 --> 01:18:08,102
- Not only do we
play with dolls,
1898
01:18:08,103 --> 01:18:10,371
but we made our living
playing with dolls.
1899
01:18:10,372 --> 01:18:12,206
- [Kyra] So it always felt
there was a piece missing,
1900
01:18:12,207 --> 01:18:14,975
and I had to meet
my second family.
1901
01:18:14,976 --> 01:18:16,810
Like it wasn't complete
until I met everybody.
1902
01:18:16,811 --> 01:18:18,313
- And feel this.
1903
01:18:19,147 --> 01:18:20,814
I mean you've grown up
with this stuff but-
1904
01:18:20,815 --> 01:18:21,949
- Oh wow.
- It's nothing.
1905
01:18:21,950 --> 01:18:24,919
- It's light.
- it's a fake ax.
1906
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,020
- For me it's
kind of cool
1907
01:18:26,021 --> 01:18:27,154
that you're doing
this documentary,
1908
01:18:27,155 --> 01:18:31,225
because for me I have my two
families that get to meet.
1909
01:18:31,226 --> 01:18:32,860
'Cause these are the
people I go to work
1910
01:18:32,861 --> 01:18:34,061
with and have fun with,
1911
01:18:34,062 --> 01:18:37,064
and think of it as
extended family.
1912
01:18:37,065 --> 01:18:40,134
And for you guys to all
meet up and actually make
1913
01:18:40,135 --> 01:18:42,670
that family unit, and that
family dynamic larger,
1914
01:18:42,671 --> 01:18:43,904
is kind of cool.
1915
01:18:43,905 --> 01:18:46,873
- You know, all of us
were like a family.
1916
01:18:46,874 --> 01:18:49,042
I would say a mostly
functional family,
1917
01:18:49,043 --> 01:18:51,144
occasionally
dysfunctional as all.
1918
01:18:51,145 --> 01:18:52,979
- You know, you work
really long hours,
1919
01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:55,081
and it feels like camp.
1920
01:18:55,082 --> 01:18:57,917
- Going off to Chucky camp,
as my wife and I call it.
1921
01:18:57,918 --> 01:18:59,986
- You can't do
anything else
1922
01:18:59,987 --> 01:19:02,155
besides work with these
people and make this thing.
1923
01:19:02,156 --> 01:19:05,191
- Given that the films
are in Canada, or Romania,
1924
01:19:05,192 --> 01:19:06,793
and they're never here, I
definitely don't look
1925
01:19:06,794 --> 01:19:08,928
to the time gone.
1926
01:19:08,929 --> 01:19:10,397
- Being away from
1927
01:19:11,832 --> 01:19:13,199
home was horrible.
1928
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,069
My wife and I met
when we were 16,
1929
01:19:15,869 --> 01:19:18,238
on an archeological
dig in the Negev Desert
1930
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:22,842
between Jordan and Israel,
and we're inseparable.
1931
01:19:22,843 --> 01:19:23,977
And I would be
away for two,
1932
01:19:23,978 --> 01:19:26,079
maybe three weeks
at a time,
1933
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,915
then I would fly home for
a weekend and then go back.
1934
01:19:28,916 --> 01:19:31,150
It was very difficult.
1935
01:19:31,151 --> 01:19:33,152
- You're going somewhere
where it's a different time
1936
01:19:33,153 --> 01:19:35,888
so you're not gonna be
able to be plugged in
1937
01:19:35,889 --> 01:19:37,924
just on the most
basic routine.
1938
01:19:37,925 --> 01:19:38,992
- I mean there was no
Skyping, or anything else,
1939
01:19:38,993 --> 01:19:41,060
so a lot of phone calls.
1940
01:19:41,061 --> 01:19:43,062
- Not much films
in LA these days,
1941
01:19:43,063 --> 01:19:46,099
so you're always
off somewhere.
1942
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:48,134
- It's a job that
takes you physically
1943
01:19:48,135 --> 01:19:50,203
to different
places a lot.
1944
01:19:50,204 --> 01:19:51,871
And it's really time
consuming when you're
1945
01:19:51,872 --> 01:19:53,072
- I remember they
were off to Romania,
1946
01:19:53,073 --> 01:19:55,074
and then Don told
me afterwards there
1947
01:19:55,075 --> 01:19:58,077
was like terrible
weather and stuff.
1948
01:19:58,078 --> 01:19:59,979
It sounded like a
real adventure.
1949
01:19:59,980 --> 01:20:02,215
And that's the bad thing
about doing a voice
1950
01:20:02,216 --> 01:20:04,250
is you just miss all
that, you know.
1951
01:20:04,251 --> 01:20:06,220
- Sometimes it was
just goddam lonely
1952
01:20:07,121 --> 01:20:09,956
in doing some
of those films.
1953
01:20:09,957 --> 01:20:12,025
I mean, I would be
in this huge room,
1954
01:20:12,026 --> 01:20:13,226
I mean a massive room.
1955
01:20:13,227 --> 01:20:13,961
They could put an
orchestra in there.
1956
01:20:13,962 --> 01:20:15,928
And I had a mic.
1957
01:20:15,929 --> 01:20:17,063
And everybody
was sitting in
1958
01:20:17,064 --> 01:20:19,098
the sound booth
way far away.
1959
01:20:19,099 --> 01:20:20,867
- 'Cause everyone
just thinks,
1960
01:20:20,868 --> 01:20:22,935
oh you spent all
that time together.
1961
01:20:22,936 --> 01:20:25,204
No, I was just in
a box with a mic.
1962
01:20:25,205 --> 01:20:28,241
- And I just did dialogue
by myself all day.
1963
01:20:28,242 --> 01:20:31,177
And thank god when
Jennifer finally came.
1964
01:20:31,178 --> 01:20:32,845
- Well, I suppose it's
sort of changed for me
1965
01:20:32,846 --> 01:20:33,881
since I've had a family.
1966
01:20:35,282 --> 01:20:39,052
You know, that is now part of
the decision making process.
1967
01:20:39,053 --> 01:20:41,020
- The first Chucky,
the kids were somewhere
1968
01:20:41,021 --> 01:20:44,222
between five and eight,
the two of them.
1969
01:20:44,223 --> 01:20:46,992
And it was difficult, it
was difficult for everybody.
1970
01:20:46,993 --> 01:20:49,127
'Cause I was a father
that until that point
1971
01:20:49,128 --> 01:20:50,996
had been there
for everything.
1972
01:20:50,997 --> 01:20:53,965
- It doesn't bode well
as far as, you know,
1973
01:20:53,966 --> 01:20:56,101
being able to do
your job well,
1974
01:20:56,102 --> 01:20:58,170
and be a parent well
at the same time.
1975
01:20:58,171 --> 01:21:00,872
One kind of gets put
by the wayside.
1976
01:21:00,873 --> 01:21:02,240
- And you work a
15 or 17 hour day,
1977
01:21:02,241 --> 01:21:04,976
and then you go home and
you crash for a few hours,
1978
01:21:04,977 --> 01:21:05,977
and then you have to come
back and do it again.
1979
01:21:05,978 --> 01:21:07,145
- But it's not a
nine to five.
1980
01:21:07,146 --> 01:21:10,148
It is a whatever time we
would like you to come in,
1981
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:11,983
and whatever time we
would like you to leave.
1982
01:21:11,984 --> 01:21:13,218
- When you're filming a
movie, you're going to war.
1983
01:21:13,219 --> 01:21:15,120
I don't want to make
it sound like that,
1984
01:21:15,121 --> 01:21:16,022
'cause you're not
killing people,
1985
01:21:16,023 --> 01:21:17,289
but you're killing
yourself.
1986
01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:21,627
- It's just not normal in
the way that it normally is.
1987
01:21:22,328 --> 01:21:24,863
I mean people go to
work and they come home,
1988
01:21:24,864 --> 01:21:25,931
and then they're home.
1989
01:21:25,932 --> 01:21:27,065
- So the time
that you put,
1990
01:21:27,066 --> 01:21:29,201
when I did "Sextupets"
I worked 22 hour days.
1991
01:21:29,202 --> 01:21:32,237
Literally, out of a
70, 65-day shoot.
1992
01:21:32,238 --> 01:21:37,008
I was there probably 22
hours at least 50 times.
1993
01:21:37,009 --> 01:21:38,877
- I was working from
8:00 in the morning
1994
01:21:38,878 --> 01:21:42,147
'til 11:00 at night,
five days a week.
1995
01:21:42,148 --> 01:21:43,949
And then also working
on the weekends
1996
01:21:43,950 --> 01:21:45,984
when I could have time.
1997
01:21:45,985 --> 01:21:48,220
And I had a newborn
baby at home.
1998
01:21:48,221 --> 01:21:50,756
- [Brad] You know when I
came home it was very late.
1999
01:21:50,757 --> 01:21:52,124
I had to get up early.
2000
01:21:52,125 --> 01:21:53,225
- [Fiona] Or you'd
just be gone for-
2001
01:21:53,226 --> 01:21:58,130
- Or I'd be gone for
weeks, or months.
2002
01:21:58,131 --> 01:22:01,233
- Every single person is
dedicating their lives
2003
01:22:01,234 --> 01:22:05,137
for the next two weeks,
seven weeks, or six months.
2004
01:22:05,138 --> 01:22:07,239
- With "Lord of the Rings"
it was a year and a half.
2005
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,841
"Master and Commander"
was six months.
2006
01:22:09,842 --> 01:22:11,009
- Once you're
committed to the film
2007
01:22:11,010 --> 01:22:12,978
you're at their disposal.
2008
01:22:12,979 --> 01:22:14,880
- If they said that
now, I'd be like,
2009
01:22:14,881 --> 01:22:17,048
"Well, can my family
come and visit?
2010
01:22:17,049 --> 01:22:18,850
And how would that work?"
2011
01:22:18,851 --> 01:22:19,918
So it's part of
the process.
2012
01:22:19,919 --> 01:22:21,487
- The second season
of "Phineas"
2013
01:22:23,055 --> 01:22:24,055
I had to really
put my foot down
2014
01:22:24,056 --> 01:22:25,924
about hiring new people,
2015
01:22:25,925 --> 01:22:27,292
and building the
budget of the show,
2016
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:30,262
because I didn't want to
miss my daughter growing up.
2017
01:22:30,263 --> 01:22:32,831
- But it's the life
that we've chosen,
2018
01:22:32,832 --> 01:22:34,232
you know, it's nomadic.
2019
01:22:34,233 --> 01:22:37,169
- But if I had not had
a kid in the mix,
2020
01:22:37,170 --> 01:22:39,971
I might have continued
to work that hard.
2021
01:22:39,972 --> 01:22:41,039
- You know, that's why
I see why people thank
2022
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,740
their children and
their families
2023
01:22:42,741 --> 01:22:43,908
when they win awards.
2024
01:22:43,909 --> 01:22:46,043
Yeah, I'm able to
provide for guys
2025
01:22:46,044 --> 01:22:48,112
with my passion, and my
art, and my hard work.
2026
01:22:48,113 --> 01:22:49,980
But when you get those
statues its like time
2027
01:22:49,981 --> 01:22:51,215
to sit there and
go, "Thank you.
2028
01:22:51,216 --> 01:22:53,050
Thank you guys for
being understanding.
2029
01:22:53,051 --> 01:22:55,620
'Cause honestly without
you I couldn't do this."
2030
01:22:56,788 --> 01:22:58,122
- It's hard, it's an
interesting question.
2031
01:22:58,123 --> 01:22:59,090
No one's every
asked me that.
2032
01:22:59,091 --> 01:23:02,960
No one's ever cared.
That's so nice.
2033
01:23:02,961 --> 01:23:05,229
- [Kyra] I care 'cause
my dad would have to go.
2034
01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:07,264
- Of course, I know right
when you asked that
2035
01:23:07,265 --> 01:23:09,366
I just thought that's such
an interesting perspective.
2036
01:23:09,367 --> 01:23:12,870
- [Kyra] My father and I are
basically like best friends.
2037
01:23:12,871 --> 01:23:16,207
(game thudding)
- [Tony] Yay!
2038
01:23:16,208 --> 01:23:19,910
- Can I have a share for
your camera? Can we share?
2039
01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:20,978
- [Tony] Take yours.
2040
01:23:20,979 --> 01:23:22,980
(button clicks)
2041
01:23:22,981 --> 01:23:24,615
- Do it again.
2042
01:23:24,616 --> 01:23:25,817
Hi Daddy.
2043
01:23:26,618 --> 01:23:27,785
- Hey you.
2044
01:23:27,786 --> 01:23:28,919
- I can feel
comfortable talking
2045
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,020
about anything with him.
2046
01:23:30,021 --> 01:23:31,889
He's kind of a rock.
2047
01:23:31,890 --> 01:23:33,391
I admire him a lot.
2048
01:23:36,061 --> 01:23:37,261
- It really sucks
when you're gone
2049
01:23:37,262 --> 01:23:39,898
and it's your kid's birthday
and you can't be there.
2050
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:44,068
That's the time you want
to be there the most,
2051
01:23:44,069 --> 01:23:46,404
and then you're
stuck, you know,
2052
01:23:48,073 --> 01:23:50,242
in some hotel room
somewhere waiting
2053
01:23:51,243 --> 01:23:54,845
for the alarm to go
off so you can go stick
2054
01:23:54,846 --> 01:23:56,481
a knife in Fiona's leg.
2055
01:23:57,949 --> 01:23:59,351
Those two worlds
don't mix very well.
2056
01:24:01,019 --> 01:24:02,320
I don't know
how to put it.
2057
01:24:04,256 --> 01:24:07,091
- [Kyra] As a six,
seven, eight-year-old
2058
01:24:07,092 --> 01:24:09,927
you have your other
half so to speak, leave
2059
01:24:09,928 --> 01:24:12,162
on a plane for
this movie,
2060
01:24:12,163 --> 01:24:14,031
you kind of have like a
little spark taken out of
2061
01:24:14,032 --> 01:24:16,000
- Part of it too is
knowing that you guys
2062
01:24:16,001 --> 01:24:17,067
aren't gonna be
home forever.
2063
01:24:17,068 --> 01:24:19,036
And it's like you
want to get,
2064
01:24:19,037 --> 01:24:21,138
you want to be there
for everything,
2065
01:24:21,139 --> 01:24:24,775
'cause time just
moves so fast.
2066
01:24:24,776 --> 01:24:26,944
- I think he
probably missed out
2067
01:24:26,945 --> 01:24:28,313
on a lot of key
moments that
2068
01:24:29,147 --> 01:24:32,182
we probably both
wish we had.
2069
01:24:32,183 --> 01:24:33,817
- As a parent you feel
like you miss everything.
2070
01:24:33,818 --> 01:24:35,786
I mean, part of the
2071
01:24:35,787 --> 01:24:36,788
fun of being
2072
01:24:38,089 --> 01:24:40,157
a parent is the
family dynamic.
2073
01:24:40,158 --> 01:24:43,026
You know, listening to all
three of you kids laugh,
2074
01:24:43,027 --> 01:24:45,862
to me, is like the
best thing ever.
2075
01:24:45,863 --> 01:24:46,996
(child squeals)
2076
01:24:46,997 --> 01:24:50,166
So you go away and
you don't have that.
2077
01:24:50,167 --> 01:24:53,069
And then you're
working shitty hours.
2078
01:24:53,070 --> 01:24:55,104
And then it's an eight
hour time difference.
2079
01:24:55,105 --> 01:24:57,040
And you're completely
on your own.
2080
01:24:57,041 --> 01:24:59,108
And it's like you have
to remind yourself
2081
01:24:59,109 --> 01:25:00,077
that you're there
to be able
2082
01:25:00,078 --> 01:25:01,477
to provide for
your family,
2083
01:25:01,478 --> 01:25:04,013
but at the same time it's
taking away from your
2084
01:25:04,014 --> 01:25:05,449
So it just kind
of really sucks.
2085
01:25:07,017 --> 01:25:09,919
- I'm sorry. Gosh.
(Tony laughs)
2086
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,954
- There's some
honesty for you.
2087
01:25:10,955 --> 01:25:12,855
- It's so hard to
make any movie.
2088
01:25:12,856 --> 01:25:14,190
Even the worst
movie ever made
2089
01:25:14,191 --> 01:25:17,193
is still hard to make, and
people go through a lot.
2090
01:25:17,194 --> 01:25:20,029
So I think you want to go
through it with somebody
2091
01:25:20,030 --> 01:25:20,998
that's already been
through it with you.
2092
01:25:20,999 --> 01:25:25,802
- That sort of shared
misery sometimes,
2093
01:25:25,803 --> 01:25:27,837
you know, shared
experiences,
2094
01:25:27,838 --> 01:25:29,673
and the ups and
downs of all of it.
2095
01:25:31,775 --> 01:25:33,042
It's nice having someone
else you can relate to
2096
01:25:33,043 --> 01:25:34,377
that you can
hang out with.
2097
01:25:34,378 --> 01:25:37,880
And it's weird, 'cause you'd
go on set, and it's like,
2098
01:25:37,881 --> 01:25:39,148
"Oh, hey Carry
how's it going?"
2099
01:25:39,149 --> 01:25:41,851
And last time you saw
him was five years ago.
2100
01:25:41,852 --> 01:25:43,286
- And they're
like your sister,
2101
01:25:43,287 --> 01:25:45,288
or your brother by the
end of the shoot.
2102
01:25:45,289 --> 01:25:46,789
And then you walk off and
you don't see each other.
2103
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:48,191
- (laughs) And that's it.
2104
01:25:48,192 --> 01:25:49,159
- And that's it.
- And then you run into them
2105
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,226
like five years later,
and you're like,
2106
01:25:50,227 --> 01:25:53,096
"Oh, god, how are you?
What's going on?"
2107
01:25:53,097 --> 01:25:54,163
- When you have sequels
2108
01:25:54,164 --> 01:25:56,099
and you have the
same characters
2109
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:57,767
and actors that you're
coming back to,
2110
01:25:57,768 --> 01:25:59,068
it's very sweet.
2111
01:25:59,069 --> 01:26:01,204
I mean there's a real
sweetness to it.
2112
01:26:01,205 --> 01:26:03,106
- It's very weird,
because usually after,
2113
01:26:03,107 --> 01:26:04,074
if you haven't
seen somebody
2114
01:26:04,075 --> 01:26:06,075
for like 10 years
or something,
2115
01:26:06,076 --> 01:26:07,176
you have a lot
to catch up on.
2116
01:26:07,177 --> 01:26:09,379
But because you're
in that environment
2117
01:26:09,380 --> 01:26:12,048
where you're just working
on the movie it's like,
2118
01:26:12,049 --> 01:26:14,150
you just boom, fall
right back into it.
2119
01:26:14,151 --> 01:26:15,752
- So and so's had a
kid, and whatever,
2120
01:26:15,753 --> 01:26:17,320
and you catch up.
2121
01:26:17,321 --> 01:26:20,089
And there is this cool family
dynamic with those shows.
2122
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:24,060
- It's a real kind of
special sort of life
2123
01:26:24,061 --> 01:26:25,862
that you get to have,
that goes away.
2124
01:26:25,863 --> 01:26:26,863
- That goes away.
2125
01:26:26,864 --> 01:26:28,332
- It's really sad to
2126
01:26:29,733 --> 01:26:32,068
pack everything up at
the end of the show,
2127
01:26:32,069 --> 01:26:34,070
and leave all these
guys and gals behind.
2128
01:26:34,071 --> 01:26:36,305
- And when we
wrap the show,
2129
01:26:36,306 --> 01:26:39,041
and the puppeteers and
everybody were saying
2130
01:26:39,042 --> 01:26:43,011
Don and Fiona
actually drove out
2131
01:26:43,012 --> 01:26:44,846
and hung out with us
for a couple of hours,
2132
01:26:44,847 --> 01:26:45,881
and said goodbye
to everybody.
2133
01:26:45,882 --> 01:26:47,817
- And he gave a
goodbye speech.
2134
01:26:50,887 --> 01:26:51,887
And just like,
I don't know.
2135
01:26:51,888 --> 01:26:52,921
It sounds corny
to talk about,
2136
01:26:52,922 --> 01:26:54,022
but just everybody
in the room,
2137
01:26:54,023 --> 01:26:55,123
like there were a
few people crying,
2138
01:26:55,124 --> 01:26:57,192
and they gave them
all these gifts.
2139
01:26:57,193 --> 01:26:59,127
- But Don had to get up at
like 5:00 in the morning
2140
01:26:59,128 --> 01:27:01,229
to go do the drone
shot the next day.
2141
01:27:01,230 --> 01:27:03,865
We were all wrapped and
we were gonna leave.
2142
01:27:03,866 --> 01:27:05,167
So he's like,
"I'm coming out."
2143
01:27:05,168 --> 01:27:08,036
And then Fiona's like,
"I'm coming with Don."
2144
01:27:08,037 --> 01:27:11,173
- And then he thanked me,
and then I started crying
2145
01:27:11,174 --> 01:27:13,108
- People don't
realize how seldom
2146
01:27:13,109 --> 01:27:16,011
you take away real
friends from projects.
2147
01:27:16,012 --> 01:27:19,281
- Don Mancini is maybe
my closest friend.
2148
01:27:19,282 --> 01:27:23,285
- Basically, my best friend
now, which is so weird.
2149
01:27:23,286 --> 01:27:25,287
She's also young enough
to be my daughter,
2150
01:27:25,288 --> 01:27:28,323
which makes it weirder
(laughs) in a way.
2151
01:27:28,324 --> 01:27:30,092
- He liked helped me
through my mother's death.
2152
01:27:30,093 --> 01:27:32,295
He was with me when I
found out she died.
2153
01:27:33,162 --> 01:27:36,064
He like, just feels
like my family.
2154
01:27:36,065 --> 01:27:37,132
- We've been through
a lot together.
2155
01:27:37,133 --> 01:27:38,967
He was at both of our
daughter's bat mitzvahs.
2156
01:27:38,968 --> 01:27:40,969
He was at our
daughter's wedding.
2157
01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:45,073
With me, with the
loss of his parents.
2158
01:27:45,074 --> 01:27:48,143
You know, we've been through
a lot of stuff together.
2159
01:27:48,144 --> 01:27:51,046
- I've always looked up to
him since I was eight years
2160
01:27:51,047 --> 01:27:53,315
And then we didn't talk
for many, many years
2161
01:27:53,316 --> 01:27:56,118
through my high school
times and everything.
2162
01:27:56,119 --> 01:27:57,986
And then I guess
probably late in my 20s
2163
01:27:57,987 --> 01:28:00,021
is when we reconnected.
2164
01:28:00,022 --> 01:28:01,189
- We have a lot
in common.
2165
01:28:01,190 --> 01:28:04,726
We have very similar
taste in music,
2166
01:28:04,727 --> 01:28:05,994
and movies, obviously.
2167
01:28:05,995 --> 01:28:07,129
So we just sort
of reconnected.
2168
01:28:07,130 --> 01:28:09,998
And it's like, oh
he's a person now.
2169
01:28:09,999 --> 01:28:11,199
- And Alex Vincent
is a close friend.
2170
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,335
And Don has always
been a close friend.
2171
01:28:13,336 --> 01:28:15,270
We never lost touch in
the intervening years
2172
01:28:15,271 --> 01:28:18,640
between "Chucky 2" and
"Cult" when I came back.
2173
01:28:18,641 --> 01:28:19,841
(everyone laughs)
2174
01:28:19,842 --> 01:28:21,042
- I am her
favorite director.
2175
01:28:21,043 --> 01:28:22,744
- He's my favorite
director ever.
2176
01:28:22,745 --> 01:28:23,446
- Jennifer's awesome.
2177
01:28:26,082 --> 01:28:29,417
She's one of the funniest
people you will ever meet.
2178
01:28:29,418 --> 01:28:32,921
- And I'm a little
intimidated by her,
2179
01:28:32,922 --> 01:28:35,290
She does nothing to
make me feel that,
2180
01:28:35,291 --> 01:28:40,060
but she's just this bigger
than life character.
2181
01:28:40,061 --> 01:28:42,196
- David Kirschner, I adore
him, he's a sweetheart.
2182
01:28:42,197 --> 01:28:44,131
On every single film
that I've been on
2183
01:28:44,132 --> 01:28:46,934
he has been like
a very calm,
2184
01:28:46,935 --> 01:28:48,969
sort of avuncular
presence.
2185
01:28:48,970 --> 01:28:50,204
- It would been bizarre
for me to stay close
2186
01:28:50,205 --> 01:28:52,006
with him then, like
24-years-old calling,
2187
01:28:52,007 --> 01:28:53,774
"Hi Alex's mom,
it's Christine,
2188
01:28:53,775 --> 01:28:54,942
can I talk to Alex?"
2189
01:28:54,943 --> 01:28:57,444
That would have
been deviant.
2190
01:28:57,445 --> 01:28:58,213
(laughing)
2191
01:28:58,214 --> 01:28:59,847
Creepy, a little
creepy, yeah.
2192
01:28:59,848 --> 01:29:01,015
So that didn't happen.
2193
01:29:01,016 --> 01:29:02,149
- You know, we
only reconnected
2194
01:29:02,150 --> 01:29:04,051
maybe six years ago or
something like that.
2195
01:29:04,052 --> 01:29:06,287
But we talk very often.
2196
01:29:06,288 --> 01:29:08,055
- I really love the person
Alex has grown into being.
2197
01:29:08,056 --> 01:29:10,024
- No, I think
it's really cool
2198
01:29:10,025 --> 01:29:12,059
how Brad and Fiona
have a chance
2199
01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:14,061
to actually share
something as intimate
2200
01:29:14,062 --> 01:29:16,130
as this incredible
franchise.
2201
01:29:16,131 --> 01:29:19,834
- Fiona is like really
truly, a family operation
2202
01:29:19,835 --> 01:29:21,836
that she is the
daughter of the man
2203
01:29:21,837 --> 01:29:23,137
who's voiced Chucky
for 30 years.
2204
01:29:23,138 --> 01:29:25,973
- As a father that
has daughters,
2205
01:29:25,974 --> 01:29:29,243
it touches me
that Fiona is,
2206
01:29:29,244 --> 01:29:31,645
she's truly the
"Seed of Chucky."
2207
01:29:31,646 --> 01:29:34,014
(Fiona cackling)
2208
01:29:34,015 --> 01:29:36,116
- Also, now,
it's more of me
2209
01:29:36,117 --> 01:29:37,284
just being very
proud of her,
2210
01:29:37,285 --> 01:29:41,256
because she's got her
feet, and doesn't need me.
2211
01:29:41,923 --> 01:29:43,991
Basically, she-
2212
01:29:43,992 --> 01:29:45,159
- I still need
you. (laughs)
2213
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,828
- I mean, she might
call me once in awhile.
2214
01:29:47,829 --> 01:29:50,364
And you know, I
very rarely,
2215
01:29:50,365 --> 01:29:53,734
but every once in awhile
I'll volunteer some things
2216
01:29:53,735 --> 01:29:55,103
based on what I see.
2217
01:29:56,705 --> 01:29:58,540
But for the most part
I love what I see.
2218
01:29:59,975 --> 01:30:01,643
- [Fiona] Oh,
thanks, Dad.
2219
01:30:03,745 --> 01:30:05,713
- I'm really impressed.
2220
01:30:05,714 --> 01:30:07,047
- Thanks, Daddy.
2221
01:30:07,048 --> 01:30:10,117
- And we all do have
a lot of respect
2222
01:30:10,118 --> 01:30:12,253
and admiration
for each other.
2223
01:30:12,254 --> 01:30:14,021
- We all really enjoy
each other's company,
2224
01:30:14,022 --> 01:30:15,055
and we all have fun.
2225
01:30:15,056 --> 01:30:16,190
And it's cool to be able
2226
01:30:16,191 --> 01:30:18,125
to work with people
that you like.
2227
01:30:18,126 --> 01:30:20,027
- It's something
that I'm so proud of
2228
01:30:20,028 --> 01:30:21,962
that that's a part
of my career.
2229
01:30:21,963 --> 01:30:24,031
I don't think my life
would be different.
2230
01:30:24,032 --> 01:30:26,300
It would not have
been as enriched
2231
01:30:26,301 --> 01:30:30,738
if Don Mancini or Tony
Gardner weren't part of it.
2232
01:30:30,739 --> 01:30:32,206
They're dear,
dear friends
2233
01:30:32,207 --> 01:30:35,276
that I have deep
conversations with, and love
2234
01:30:35,277 --> 01:30:39,078
- Chucky has like given me
a career, and an identity.
2235
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:41,848
- Chucky was the first
thing that I did
2236
01:30:41,849 --> 01:30:43,783
that had a fan base.
2237
01:30:43,784 --> 01:30:45,652
And that got me-
2238
01:30:45,653 --> 01:30:46,420
- Noticed.
2239
01:30:46,421 --> 01:30:48,087
- Yeah, it got
me a career.
2240
01:30:48,088 --> 01:30:50,056
- One of the best gifts
to have in life,
2241
01:30:50,057 --> 01:30:52,358
particularly when you get
older, you'll find out,
2242
01:30:52,359 --> 01:30:57,063
is that it's just nice for
people to listen to you.
2243
01:30:57,064 --> 01:30:58,998
I've been doing
this a long time.
2244
01:30:58,999 --> 01:30:59,967
I've been doing this
for 30 years now.
2245
01:30:59,968 --> 01:31:03,136
So that like people
still care about it,
2246
01:31:03,137 --> 01:31:05,071
and want to talk to me
about it, that's awesome.
2247
01:31:05,072 --> 01:31:06,806
- See this is the
reason why going into
2248
01:31:06,807 --> 01:31:08,007
the seventh Chucky film,
2249
01:31:08,008 --> 01:31:10,243
that Chucky has a
huge fan base.
2250
01:31:10,244 --> 01:31:15,014
- The cult fan base of Chucky
is very multi-faceted.
2251
01:31:15,015 --> 01:31:19,018
So you've got like the sort
of the typical young guys
2252
01:31:19,019 --> 01:31:20,820
who love horror,
and they love
2253
01:31:20,821 --> 01:31:23,189
to see guts and
gore, and T&A.
2254
01:31:23,190 --> 01:31:26,826
- And it's not like a
lot of horror films
2255
01:31:26,827 --> 01:31:28,161
where every movie
is basically
2256
01:31:28,162 --> 01:31:30,096
the same movie
that came before.
2257
01:31:30,097 --> 01:31:32,966
- And then you've got young
women who are like tend
2258
01:31:32,967 --> 01:31:35,234
to be a little more
sensitive than that.
2259
01:31:35,235 --> 01:31:39,339
And their interests in it
tend to be a little bit
2260
01:31:39,340 --> 01:31:42,008
- Every movie that Don does
there's like a new twist.
2261
01:31:42,009 --> 01:31:43,276
- People really love it.
2262
01:31:43,277 --> 01:31:45,044
People come with their
little doll and all that.
2263
01:31:45,045 --> 01:31:46,045
"Could you sign that?"
2264
01:31:46,046 --> 01:31:46,914
- [Kyra] Their Glen doll?
2265
01:31:46,914 --> 01:31:47,848
- Yeah.
2266
01:31:47,849 --> 01:31:49,749
- Glen?
2267
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:51,851
- Guess again, Daddy?
2268
01:31:51,852 --> 01:31:53,252
- Horror's always
been counterculture.
2269
01:31:53,253 --> 01:31:54,954
I think that that makes
the people who are fans
2270
01:31:54,955 --> 01:31:56,923
of it band together.
2271
01:31:56,924 --> 01:31:58,124
- I don't think there's
any other genre
2272
01:31:58,125 --> 01:32:00,059
that has a fan
base like horror.
2273
01:32:00,060 --> 01:32:03,029
- Horror fans are,
and I include myself
2274
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:05,832
in this category,
very passionate.
2275
01:32:05,833 --> 01:32:08,167
But also very obsessed,
2276
01:32:08,168 --> 01:32:10,069
just like very obsessed
with the films.
2277
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:11,938
- And the fans always
know so much about it.
2278
01:32:11,939 --> 01:32:13,072
They're well-versed,
you know,
2279
01:32:13,073 --> 01:32:15,074
they're complete
fanatics.
2280
01:32:15,075 --> 01:32:20,213
- They are devoted,
loving, kind, non-violent,
2281
01:32:20,214 --> 01:32:23,683
(laughs) people who
appreciate what you have
2282
01:32:23,684 --> 01:32:24,984
and given them.
2283
01:32:24,985 --> 01:32:27,987
- It's celebrated. We get
to celebrate it often.
2284
01:32:27,988 --> 01:32:30,089
You know, I do conventions
with Christine Elise.
2285
01:32:30,090 --> 01:32:31,824
- I think one of the
things I'm most entertained
2286
01:32:31,825 --> 01:32:33,026
about at conventions
is it's
2287
01:32:33,027 --> 01:32:35,327
a gigantic collection
of people.
2288
01:32:35,328 --> 01:32:38,397
- [Lin] Table after table,
and thousands of people,
2289
01:32:38,398 --> 01:32:42,300
- Who are in society
generally looked at as
2290
01:32:42,301 --> 01:32:44,102
They tend to be wearing
black, black T shirt.
2291
01:32:44,103 --> 01:32:46,138
- And they look
like they should be
2292
01:32:46,139 --> 01:32:49,241
in a death metal
band, and screaming
2293
01:32:49,242 --> 01:32:52,844
and Wielding an ax, and
throwing shit at people.
2294
01:32:52,845 --> 01:32:54,046
- But they're, they
seem to be like
2295
01:32:54,047 --> 01:32:56,081
the bizarrely, the
most wholesome.
2296
01:32:56,082 --> 01:32:58,250
- Usually, they're the most
honestly mild-mannered.
2297
01:32:58,251 --> 01:33:02,320
And it's like they're
actually really normal
2298
01:33:02,321 --> 01:33:06,158
Not all horror fans shop at
Hot Topic. No disrespect.
2299
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:09,027
Not all of us do that.
Only sometimes.
2300
01:33:09,028 --> 01:33:11,296
- Jennifer Tilly
and I did Comicon.
2301
01:33:11,297 --> 01:33:14,800
And there were people coming
up for autographs
2302
01:33:14,801 --> 01:33:16,368
pushing babies
in strollers.
2303
01:33:16,369 --> 01:33:19,071
And they had like Chucky or
Tiffany tattooed on them.
2304
01:33:19,072 --> 01:33:22,007
It's like, wow these
people are really into it.
2305
01:33:22,008 --> 01:33:23,909
- All the boys
have tattoos.
2306
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:25,844
All the girls are big
girls, they're tough,
2307
01:33:25,845 --> 01:33:27,312
they're kick ass,
those girls.
2308
01:33:27,313 --> 01:33:29,714
And they always have a
great sense of humor.
2309
01:33:29,715 --> 01:33:31,049
I love the horror fans.
2310
01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:34,019
- I get so many letters,
and like drawings.
2311
01:33:34,020 --> 01:33:36,221
- Comicon is
great for us.
2312
01:33:36,222 --> 01:33:40,192
For the niche parts
of entertainment
2313
01:33:40,193 --> 01:33:42,861
it's this great place where
we get to be sort of thought
2314
01:33:42,862 --> 01:33:44,196
- But they were
so polite,
2315
01:33:44,197 --> 01:33:46,698
and had such a genuine
appreciation for it,
2316
01:33:46,699 --> 01:33:48,166
and such a love for it.
2317
01:33:48,167 --> 01:33:51,269
- Horror's so cool
because it is a genre,
2318
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,072
where the below the line
people get appreciation.
2319
01:33:54,073 --> 01:33:55,941
- I love every single
person I've met
2320
01:33:55,942 --> 01:33:57,242
at a convention,
for real.
2321
01:33:57,243 --> 01:34:02,848
They are just excited,
joyous, and giving.
2322
01:34:02,849 --> 01:34:04,049
- I think it's great
to just come here,
2323
01:34:04,050 --> 01:34:05,951
and be surrounded by
people who love horror.
2324
01:34:05,952 --> 01:34:07,252
Like at any horror
convention,
2325
01:34:07,253 --> 01:34:09,654
it's just really cool
to find more and more
2326
01:34:09,655 --> 01:34:10,822
of these out here.
2327
01:34:10,823 --> 01:34:12,157
And to see more
and more people
2328
01:34:12,158 --> 01:34:14,159
from all different regions
of the United States,
2329
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,028
and all over the world coming
to celebrate this genre.
2330
01:34:17,029 --> 01:34:19,764
- It's wonderful to see that
kind of fan base support
2331
01:34:19,765 --> 01:34:20,866
for the movies,
in person.
2332
01:34:20,867 --> 01:34:22,000
- I love being here, man.
2333
01:34:22,001 --> 01:34:23,835
I love being
surrounded by this.
2334
01:34:23,836 --> 01:34:25,303
It's my favorite
place to be.
2335
01:34:25,304 --> 01:34:27,973
- They're always great
about meeting their fans.
2336
01:34:27,974 --> 01:34:29,774
Don Mancini
always makes time
2337
01:34:29,775 --> 01:34:31,109
to sign every autograph.
2338
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:32,977
- And so to meet
them in person,
2339
01:34:32,978 --> 01:34:34,211
and just get to
talk to them,
2340
01:34:34,212 --> 01:34:36,113
even if it's just
for a few minutes
2341
01:34:36,114 --> 01:34:38,849
about those experiences,
I really appreciate that.
2342
01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:40,117
- Story telling is
about communication,
2343
01:34:40,118 --> 01:34:42,186
and it relies on
both parties,
2344
01:34:42,187 --> 01:34:45,055
the story teller and
the person who's hearing
2345
01:34:45,056 --> 01:34:46,757
the story and
responding to it.
2346
01:34:46,758 --> 01:34:47,758
(audience applauds)
2347
01:34:47,759 --> 01:34:48,793
(indistinct talking)
2348
01:34:51,730 --> 01:34:53,197
- Any movie is a
dialogue in a way.
2349
01:34:53,198 --> 01:34:56,133
And I think that's
increasing true
2350
01:34:56,134 --> 01:34:57,902
in the world of
social media.
2351
01:34:57,903 --> 01:34:59,203
- Internet has
come along,
2352
01:34:59,204 --> 01:35:03,174
and everybody can share
photos and cross analyze,
2353
01:35:03,175 --> 01:35:05,242
what he looked like in
this film versus that film?
2354
01:35:05,243 --> 01:35:06,977
And a lot people have
really good opinions,
2355
01:35:06,978 --> 01:35:08,245
and really smart ones.
2356
01:35:08,246 --> 01:35:11,081
And I think the fan
base is something
2357
01:35:11,082 --> 01:35:14,051
that's become rather
amazing in a way.
2358
01:35:14,052 --> 01:35:16,987
- You get like
feedback from fans
2359
01:35:16,988 --> 01:35:19,156
and people who watch
movies, way more quickly,
2360
01:35:19,157 --> 01:35:21,859
and more consistently
than you ever did.
2361
01:35:21,860 --> 01:35:23,060
It's just immediate.
2362
01:35:23,061 --> 01:35:25,996
- My experience with
fan conventions
2363
01:35:25,997 --> 01:35:27,831
is diametrically opposed
to my experience
2364
01:35:27,832 --> 01:35:30,167
with fans online.
2365
01:35:30,168 --> 01:35:33,304
Fans online tend to be, I
mean, half of them are
2366
01:35:33,305 --> 01:35:37,041
and effusive and great and
curious, and wonderful.
2367
01:35:37,042 --> 01:35:39,977
- And if they're unhappy
you hear it right away.
2368
01:35:39,978 --> 01:35:42,012
- And another half
are incredibly mean,
2369
01:35:42,013 --> 01:35:44,848
and vindictive and
scary even sometimes.
2370
01:35:44,849 --> 01:35:46,183
Nobody ever is
in real life.
2371
01:35:46,184 --> 01:35:48,719
- We're such a large
group of people
2372
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,921
to be invested in a story
2373
01:35:50,922 --> 01:35:52,990
that has been told
for over 30 years.
2374
01:35:52,991 --> 01:35:54,892
To be a part of that
is truly special.
2375
01:35:54,893 --> 01:35:56,126
- To be a part
of something
2376
01:35:56,127 --> 01:36:00,097
that so many people
love is really surreal.
2377
01:36:00,098 --> 01:36:01,198
- Every new Chucky
installment they're like,
2378
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:03,167
"Oh my god, what's
gonna happen?"
2379
01:36:03,168 --> 01:36:05,936
Because they really see
Chucky as a real person.
2380
01:36:05,937 --> 01:36:07,838
- Whatever Chucky
represents to people
2381
01:36:07,839 --> 01:36:11,141
is real, and legitimate.
2382
01:36:11,142 --> 01:36:14,845
And there's like passion
for the character.
2383
01:36:14,846 --> 01:36:16,180
It just feels like
this weird gift
2384
01:36:16,181 --> 01:36:18,048
that I get to be
involved in it.
2385
01:36:18,049 --> 01:36:20,184
- It's an important
chapter of my life
2386
01:36:20,185 --> 01:36:24,021
that thankfully, hasn't
ended in 30 years.
2387
01:36:24,022 --> 01:36:25,889
I don't have any other
project like that.
2388
01:36:25,890 --> 01:36:27,891
I don't think
anybody else does.
2389
01:36:27,892 --> 01:36:29,361
- It's a blessing,
definitely.
2390
01:36:30,195 --> 01:36:31,894
As my grandmother
used to always say
2391
01:36:31,895 --> 01:36:34,163
about Chucky, "He's
such a bitch."
2392
01:36:34,164 --> 01:36:37,066
But he's a bitch hat
keeps on giving.
2393
01:36:37,067 --> 01:36:38,101
- [Kyra] Do you
think of Chucky
2394
01:36:38,102 --> 01:36:39,902
as part of your
own family?
2395
01:36:39,903 --> 01:36:41,170
- Of course, (laughs)
I do think of Chucky
2396
01:36:41,171 --> 01:36:45,041
as family he's
mine, he's mine.
2397
01:36:45,042 --> 01:36:46,876
Although Tony will
say, "He's mine."
2398
01:36:46,877 --> 01:36:48,911
And David Kirschner
will say, "He's mine."
2399
01:36:48,912 --> 01:36:51,014
'Cause success has
many fathers. (laughs)
2400
01:36:51,015 --> 01:36:54,817
- We joke about that,
that he's our third child.
2401
01:36:54,818 --> 01:36:57,320
- I'm proud to have
been his papa.
2402
01:36:57,321 --> 01:37:00,957
- I think of Chucky as my
little demented brother.
2403
01:37:00,958 --> 01:37:03,092
It's true when I
see him sometimes,
2404
01:37:03,093 --> 01:37:05,161
you know, I feel
close to him.
2405
01:37:05,162 --> 01:37:06,996
- No, I don't feel like
he's a little brother.
2406
01:37:06,997 --> 01:37:09,098
I feel like
maybe he's like
2407
01:37:09,099 --> 01:37:11,568
a dog that really lived
a really long time.
2408
01:37:14,204 --> 01:37:16,105
That you've had your
whole life, you love him,
2409
01:37:16,106 --> 01:37:19,942
but he shits on your
floor. (laughs)
2410
01:37:19,943 --> 01:37:21,210
- I don't think of
Chucky as a kid.
2411
01:37:21,211 --> 01:37:24,981
I think of Chucky as
an employer sometimes
2412
01:37:24,982 --> 01:37:26,283
in a weird way.
2413
01:37:27,084 --> 01:37:29,085
And then he's a
family member.
2414
01:37:29,086 --> 01:37:31,488
- Our little boy, is what
we always say in this house.
2415
01:37:34,224 --> 01:37:36,159
is what you were
trying to say, right?
2416
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,227
- There you go. You
ratted me out.
2417
01:37:38,228 --> 01:37:41,265
- (chuckles) and we
got it on video.
2418
01:37:44,068 --> 01:37:46,337
- Tiffany's my
favorite. (laughs)
2419
01:37:49,473 --> 01:37:52,875
I think being part of
the Chucky family,
2420
01:37:52,876 --> 01:37:55,011
there's just somebody
who truly gets you,
2421
01:37:55,012 --> 01:37:57,013
because not every
other daughter,
2422
01:37:57,014 --> 01:37:59,782
or father or person
has grown up
2423
01:37:59,783 --> 01:38:01,017
in the same environment.
2424
01:38:01,018 --> 01:38:02,952
I feel so connected
to everybody.
2425
01:38:02,953 --> 01:38:04,187
I like these
relationships,
2426
01:38:04,188 --> 01:38:07,156
and I hope they grow
more over the years.
2427
01:38:07,157 --> 01:38:10,361
- Now, we really will
be the perfect family.
2428
01:38:10,961 --> 01:38:15,198
(tinkling, eerie music)
2429
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:17,867
- I think these relationships
have definitely more
2430
01:38:17,868 --> 01:38:20,136
than grown over the
past few years.
2431
01:38:20,137 --> 01:38:22,939
- It's funny 'cause I don't
think any of us expected
2432
01:38:22,940 --> 01:38:27,143
it to continue on,
let alone gather
2433
01:38:27,144 --> 01:38:29,077
a larger family
in the process
2434
01:38:29,078 --> 01:38:30,879
as it keeps
moving forward.
2435
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,281
And now we're
headed to Canada.
2436
01:38:33,282 --> 01:38:37,119
We're going to Toronto to
shoot a TV series called
2437
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,088
- I am coming to you from the
set of the "Chucky" series.
2438
01:38:40,089 --> 01:38:42,257
Which we are filming
here in Toronto, Ontario.
2439
01:38:42,258 --> 01:38:45,160
Who would have thought, 25
years ago when he talked me
2440
01:38:45,161 --> 01:38:47,662
into playing this part,
that I would still be
2441
01:38:47,663 --> 01:38:49,131
at it many movies later,
2442
01:38:49,132 --> 01:38:51,400
and now, a
television series?
2443
01:38:51,401 --> 01:38:55,971
- Eight episodes, eight hour
long episodes of killer
2444
01:38:55,972 --> 01:38:57,973
The foundation
is the same.
2445
01:38:57,974 --> 01:39:01,109
Don Mancini is the show
runner, and wrote the pilot,
2446
01:39:01,110 --> 01:39:03,078
and is directing
the pilot.
2447
01:39:03,079 --> 01:39:05,080
David Kirschner
is producing.
2448
01:39:05,081 --> 01:39:07,149
All the lead puppeteers
are back on it.
2449
01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:08,750
- And of course,
darling old Chucky,
2450
01:39:08,751 --> 01:39:10,685
the star of our show.
2451
01:39:10,686 --> 01:39:12,053
We must not forget him,
2452
01:39:12,054 --> 01:39:13,955
because if we did he would
get very, very cranky.
2453
01:39:13,956 --> 01:39:16,124
(bell rings)
2454
01:39:16,125 --> 01:39:18,994
I have to be quiet now,
'cause we're filming. Bye.
2455
01:39:18,995 --> 01:39:20,128
- It's been an interesting
journey really.
2456
01:39:20,129 --> 01:39:22,998
The world has gotten
a lot smaller.
2457
01:39:22,999 --> 01:39:25,000
- And the family's
gotten larger.
2458
01:39:25,001 --> 01:39:27,302
- It's a little
dysfunctional and deadly,
2459
01:39:27,303 --> 01:39:30,939
but everybody gets along
and has a lot of fun.
2460
01:39:30,940 --> 01:39:33,108
- And we're just gonna
keep on killing people.
2461
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:35,177
The family that
slays together
2462
01:39:35,178 --> 01:39:37,279
stays together.
- Stays together.
2463
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,617
(urgent, dramatically ominous
full orchestral music)
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