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You're looking at two years
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The jewellery was under the floorboards. The police
have nothing to connect you to the scene of the robbery
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I'm going to vomit
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If you stick to the story,
they can only charge you with receiving
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With good behaviour, you'll be out in a year.
On the other hand...
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I'm warning you, Spike.
Projectile vomiting
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If I hear the words 'prisoner's dilemma',
I'm going to puke into that bin
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You're being childish.
The Krohl is a plum ticket
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And the psychology department has published
a dozen papers on the Dilemma, so hang in
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- The question is, can you trust Bob?
- Who's Bob?
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Bob is who smashed the jewellers window
while you grabbed the rings and watches
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- Oh, Bob
- Bob is who's sticking to the story, you hope
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Bob is who's asking himself...
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- ...can I trust Luanne to stick to the story?
- Luanne?
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There's never been a smash-and-grab
jewel raider called Hilary
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If Bob turns state's evidence
he'll get off and you'll get seven years...
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...because you stuck to the story, you muggins
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Why would Bob do that
except in the Ladybird Book of Game Theory?
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In case you do it to him. That's what this is about.
That's why the game is called The Prisoners Dilemma
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Two rational prisoners will betray each other...
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...even though they know
they would have done better to trust each other
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Rational? You have to be a person to be rational.
You've left out everything about Bob and me
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Except we're each out for ourselves,
and we've got Mo buttons to push
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- Actually, Bob loves me
- Hold on
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I did it. Bob had nothing to do with it,
he wasn't even there
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That's not one of the options
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I smashed the window, grabbed the jewellery
and hid it under the floorboards
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It's not an option in the game
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I'm confessing anyway.
I'm going to give Bob a chance to go straight
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- Why?
- Because I'm good
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Right. Promise me one thing.
Don't pull this one if it comes up in your interview
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The game is not about you and Bob,
it's about a statistical tendency
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It's about survival strategies
hard-wired into our brains millions of years ago
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Who eats, who gets eaten, who gets to
advance their genes into the next generation
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Competition is the natural order,
self-interest is bedrock
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Co-operation is a strategy.
Altruism is an outlier unless you're an ant or a bee
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You're not an ant or a bee, you're competing
to do a doctorate at the Krohl Institute
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Where they're basically seeing first class honours
degrees and you're in line for a two-one
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So don't be a smart-arse,
and above all don't use the word 'good'...
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...as though it meant something
in evolutionary science
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Horrible.
Haven't you even got sweetener?
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- Don't you believe in good, Spike?
- I believe in it, it's just not what you think it is
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- What do you think it is?
- Behaviour
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It takes millions of years to evolve, but it's evolved
behaviour, whether you're a person or a vampire bat
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Every night, vampire bats leave the cave
in search of warm blood
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When they get back to the cave, the ones who were
lucky cough up for the ones who weren't. Literally
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They regurgitate some of the blood
to feed the bats who came home hungry
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Do you think these are good vampire bats?
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No, I don't. But I don't think
they're little people with wings and sonar, either
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I didn't want to be the one to break it to you
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How many times do you think a bat
will refuse to share its dinner...
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...before it finds out next time it comes home hungry
the other bats won't cough up?
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- I don't know
- I don't know either, but off the top of my head, four
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Four times, say.
That'll teach the selfish little bastard how to behave
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I don't see that we have much
to feel superior about, as a species
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Altruism is always self-interest,
it just needs a little working out
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Like you going miles out of your way
to give me a lift home?
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Exactly. It's a cost-benefit thing. I go miles out of
my way because you might invite me in for coffee
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- And I throw in a tutorial to get into your...
- Pants?
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Good graces, I was going to say.
But you're basically right on the biology
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- I'd rather not complicate...
- Hey, I'm your tutor
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it would be an abuse of trust
without precedent in higher education
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It's a cost-benefit thing.
I'm sorry about the coffee, too
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But giving something to get something
isn't altruism, anyway
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- That's what I'm saying
- No, you're not
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You're saying there's no such thing,
and I'm saying there is
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I'm saying Rose of Sharon giving her milk
to a starving man is different from bats
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- Rose of Sharon. Is she in the Bible?
- No, she's in The Grapes of Wrath, you pillock
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Oh, fiction. If you want a tip,
don't cite works of fiction
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Rose of Sharon's baby is born dead, so she gives
her breast to an old man dying of hunger
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A stranger, just some old man they find lying in a barn
where the family are sheltering from the rainstorm
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That's how the story ends, with Rose of Sharon
holding a starving man to her breast
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Altruism means being good for its own sake
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Didn't it make her feel better, though,
about her life, her baby
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Didn't it give her the courage to go on,
and have more babies?
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- Fuck you, Spike
- Darwin doesn't do sentimental
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If you want something cuddly, try business studies.
Here, there's nothing but evolutionary biology
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Breast-feeding a starving man? Evo-bio.
The Good Samaritan? Evo-bio
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Culture, empathy, faith, hope and charity,
all the flip-sides of egoism, come back to biology
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Because there just ain't anywhere else
to come from except three pounds of grey matter
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Wired up in your head
like a map of the London Underground
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With eighty-six billion stations connected
thirty trillion ways, hard-wired for me first
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How many times do you think I'd drive you home
for a mug of what isn't even proper coffee...
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...before I give up on the sweetener
and let you go home on the bus?
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- Four?
- Yeah. At least
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- At least?
- Yes. At least four
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- Sony
- What?
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- Were you praying?
- Yes
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Sony if I came in at the wrong moment
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I was saying my prayers,
I wasn't putting in my dentures. Thanks
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- I'm glad you did that after, not before
- I feel the same way about what you're wearing
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You're lovely. It was lovely.
Afterwards, you said, muttered really, did you know...?
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You said, 'Thank you'.
'Thank you'. I thought that was so...
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- You don't have to say thank you
- Actually, I wasn't talking to you
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Oh. Sony
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- So... so you, as it were, pray to God, then?
- Yes
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- Do you pray every night?
- Yes. Usually before I get into bed
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- Does it work?
- Yes
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- You find prayer works?
- Yes
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- What, every time?
- Yes. Every time I say my prayers I feel better
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Oh, works, fight. Psychological
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Wow, Spike, I never thought of that before,
missed it completely, shit, that explains it
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Hello, hello.
When I clap my hands you'll wake up...
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...and find you're in bed with a student,
wearing a negligée
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Lucky me.
Better than when?
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- What do you pray for?
- Forgiveness
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Forgiveness?
I thought it was me who should be doing that
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What you need to pray for
is getting into the Krohl Institute
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How does God feel about your model
of Nature-Nurture Convergence...
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...in Egoistic and Altruistic Parent-Offspring Behaviour?
Does he think you're on the right lines?
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I tell you what, Spike,
if I were up for a back-and-forth about God
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...I'd rather not have it with an arsehole
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Where we were was, you were supposed
to be checking the maths for me
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To tell you the truth, I feel a bit thrown now.
I wasn't expecting to deal with a rival hypothesis
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm not thrown
by sharing an ancestor with a grunting chimpanzee
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Evolution by natural selection, bring it on
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It's only that millions of years later the chimp is
still grunting and you're using words like hypothesis
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So I'm wondering if there's something they missed out.
It's nothing for you to be bothered by
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If not me, who? I'm Darwin. I'm Mendel. I'm Crick
and Watson. I stand for all the science that's taught
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We've scraped you clean of gibberish,
we've taken you to bits and put you back together...
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...from the atoms upwards so you understand
how you work and how everything around you works
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We've accounted for every particle in the universe
except for dark matter, and we are working on that
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And here you are on your knees to what? To who?
You might as well pray to Peter Rabbit
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- Explain consciousness
- Apart from consciousness
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'Explain consciousness'.
There's no baby, there's only bathwater
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I've got nothing personal against God,
except the usual, but I expected better from you
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When did your mind tum into a party balloon?
You made it nearly to the end of the journey
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Give it a few more years, we'll have gravity
wrapped in with the other forces...
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...and there'll be nothing for science to do
except collect new beetles
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Well, I don't believe that entirely, in fact
I'm so disgusted I've started talking bollocks
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Explain consciousness
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Flame - finger- brain
Brain - finger- ouch
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- Consciousness
- Brilliant. Now do sorrow
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Flame - finger- brain
Brain - finger- ouch
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- Consciousness
- Brilliant. Now do sorrow
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You think you've done pain. If you wired me up
you could track the signal, zip-zip
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If you put my brain in a scanner
you could locate the activity. Ping! Pain!
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Now do sorrow. How do I feel sorrow?
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- Do you feel sorrow?
- Yes
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- I'm making you sad?
- Not everything is about you, Spike
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- Right
- Scaredy-cat
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You can explain the mechanics.
You should work in a garage
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'It's yer big end's gone, mate.
Does it hurt when I do this?'
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And answer came there none,
because it's a bloody car
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I don't go locking for an argument with science.
Tell me my DNA is seventy per cent banana, and I think...
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Well, tine, there are more things in heaven and earth
than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Hilary
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But with consciousness,
with the mind-body problem...
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...the God idea shoves itself to the front
like a doctor at the scene of an accident
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Because when you come right down to it, the body
is made of things, and things don't have thoughts
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Bananas aren't thinking...
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...'Hey, seven eights is fifty-six',
or 'I'm not the king of Spain'
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And when you take a banana to bits
you can see why
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Don't publish till you hear back from the Krohl
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Same with brains. The mind is extra
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The human brain, for its size, is the most complex...
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...complex object on the planet, in the galaxy,
the universe. Forget it, Spike, I've got the T-shirt
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If organising enough components
the right way is all it takes...
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...maybe a thermostat is a kiddie-step
towards being conscious
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- Maybe
- ...which is what I'm reading
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- Did you say maybe?
- I don't see anything obviously wrong with that
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You believe a thermostat has consciousness potential,
but you find God a bit of a stretch?
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Uh-huh, but you should stick with God.
Your way with an equation would need his collaboration
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That's what you're here for.
God can only do so much
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I put in for six research slots in industry, plus
Imperial for the hell of it and the Krohl for sheer cheek
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- And only the Krohl offered me an interview
- The Krohl didn't know about your maths
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I'm not even doing what I'd call brain science
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You must be.
Seeing as it's the Krohl Institute for Brain Science
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Which means neurobio,
neuropsycho, neuro-everything
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Plus its own gym, organic vegetables
and free Pilates, I'm hold
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All paid for by a squillionaire with a masters
in biophysics who decided to try hedge-funding
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Which raises the interesting question,
is Krohl an altruist or an egoist?
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- What you've got here is a wonky co-variance, miss
- What's wrong with it?
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The model works okay for behaviour one-on-one
in an idealised sort of way
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Think Raphael's Madonna and Child, which I
personally call Woman Maximising Gene Survival
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But it won't generalise,
because you haven't allowed for future offspring
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And if they have different fathers,
you need to differentiate...
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Can you fix it by Wednesday?
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I'll do my best, miss,
but I'll have to strip her right down to get at it
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- And that's just the customer
- Can you?
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Also, it's not good science to call mother-love
a virtue, or even mother-love
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You don't think mother-love is a virtue?
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You don't call it a virtue,
because at root its virtue consists in its utility
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- Utility. Mother-love?
- Genetically selected behaviour to maximise...
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Spike, do you know anyone
who believes that, really and truly?
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I don't know anyone who doesn't believe it
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Parental behaviour. Hard-wired when we were roaming
the savannah in small groups of hunter-gatherers
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Mother and baby are in a cost-benefit competition
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Have you ever seen a new-born infant screaming
to be fed? The anger, the noise, the face?
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The kid is laying it on,
and it probably started in the womb
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Oh, probably. The kid doesn't know up from down
but it knows how to maximise the survival of its genes
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And mummy's genes are working out
the odds of their survival in the baby...
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...against her chances of having more kids
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It's a cost-benefit competition, and the genes,
unlike some of us, can do the maths, is that right?
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- Well...
- Just shut up
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It's not personal
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Obviously, genes have no intentions,
it's as if, it's a metaphor
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- A metaphor for what?
- A reflex. A survival reflex
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Genes don't have a survival problem, Spike,
they're genes
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They're little tiny things,
like, I don't know, molecules
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Metaphorically, genes want to hop the next train
before the train they're on conks out
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As if they know life has a value
which extinction doesn't have
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But the science has no underneath,
it's tortoises all the way down
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I agree with you, Spike. Virtue is not science.
You can't get an ought cut of an is
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Morality is not science. So there must be something
else, which isn't science. Which science isn't
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- What is it?
- Wait
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Moral rules are the stable strategy
evolved by millions of years of jockeying...
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...between humans in real-life situations
like the game of Prisoners Dilemma
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That's right. Better out than in
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You don't like the idea
that you're nothing else but an animal
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It's a conceit. You're an animal.
Get over it
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Hilly... What?
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- What happened?
- Nothing happened. I'm okay, Spike
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- Of course you are. It'll be fine
- Oh, that. Forget that
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I need a miracle
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- Hi
-Hi
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Are you here for an interview?
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- Dr Reinhart
- Same here. What time?
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- Eleven-fifteen
- It's nearly twelve
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- I know
- Maybe he forgot about you
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- ls your doctorate in psychology?
- If necessary
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My degree is in maths,
and I'm doing a masters in biophysics
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Which is actually a neurobiology
research project I managed to latch on to...
223
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...to make myself beautiful for the Krohl. We already
published a paper which I've got my name on
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- I'm Amal, by the way
- Hilary. Wow
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- How about you?
- Yes. Psychology. I haven't graduated yet
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- So you like the Krohl Institute?
- What's not?
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It's small, it's not industry, it's not academia,
it's state of the art for imaging and all the toys
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It's got a gym, it's elitist but in a good way,
and after five years of Cambridge it's not in Cambridge
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- Where are you?
- Loughborough
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- Where is that?
- Loughborough. We must be up for the same job
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- Well, good luck
- I'll say
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- Thank you. Good luck to you, too
- Thanks
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Psychology is a side-show at the Krohl. You need
a hard-science crossover to improve your chances
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- A lot of what they publish is on mice and macaques
- Parrots?
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- Monkeys
- Oh, fight
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Monkeys are great.
Scan the hell out of them, open up their little heads
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Try this, try that, see what happens,
and they don't sue
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Yeah, that wouldn't work
with behavioural psychology
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I've submitted to do an experiment
tracking unconscious readiness potential...
240
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...move-by-move in two subjects
playing a repeated Prisoners Dilemma
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- They're going to love you
- It's just to get me through the door
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The Dilemma is cleaned out, it was oversold
in the first place with the one-shot game
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- That's just what I said
- I wonder what's happened to our...?
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- Perhaps this is it. Candid Camera
- Do you think so?
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Apologies. I'm Leo Reinhart
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- Which of you is my eleven-fifteen?
- I am, sir. Hilary Matthews
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- Then you must be my twelve o'clock
- Amal Admati
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I have to ask you a favour, Hilary.
I can save a few minutes if I take Amal first
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So, Amal, come with me and tell me
why you believe a machine can think
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Or why you believe it can't,
whichever you prefer
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Can a machine think...?
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Hilary... I knew it was you.
Do you remember me?
253
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It's Julia. Redcliffs High.
The Purple Gang
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Julia... Julia Chamberlain.
Gosh, hello
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- Do you work here?
- Yes, nothing brainy, surprise, surprise
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I do a Pilates class for who wants it
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My partner works here, she's the brainy one.
You'll meet her in a minute
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- How are things with you, Hilary?
- Fine, thanks
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- The Purple Gang! Do you hear from anyone?
- Christmas cards. Not really
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- What did you do after Redcliffs?
- I had the baby
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- Oh, I wasn't asking...
- It's all right
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- The Head hold us, just the seniors
- Awful warning, was I?
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No, honestly, she was really sympathetic.
She said you might come back and do your GCSEs
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I suppose that's what girls do now,
with a bucket under the desk
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- Not at Redcliffs. What was your baby?
- A girl. Catherine
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I don't know if she's still Catherine.
You don't get to know. Anything
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She was six in November.
Bonfire night. The sky was exploding
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- Oh, Hilly
- Yes. Well. You know
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The adoption was all arranged beforehand. No granny,
and my poor dad wasn't about to take it in his stride
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I was quite relieved, actually. I wasn't into babies.
It was different when it came to it
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But, I don't know, everything just went ahead,
it seemed like the best thing
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- What about the, your... well, boyfriend, was he?
- I didn't have a boyfriend. it was stupider than that
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I never saw him again, and didn't much want to.
Really stupid
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- But here you are
- Reading psychology at Loughborough
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So everything turned out all fight.
I'm sorry. I'm an idiot
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Here's Ursula coming.
Listen, good luck
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- Ursula, look. Hilary Matthews
- Hello. Ursula Tarrant
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- Hilary's here for her interview
- I was amazed. I think it must be a mistake
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Usually is, but picking a winner
from the slush pile is Leo's little vanity
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Sorry, that sounds rude. I bet your application
was brilliant. How did you get on?
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I haven't had it yet.
Dr Reinhart is in there with the other candidate
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The men's room?
That could be good. It could be bad. Hard to tell
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00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:02,350
- What's the competition?
- Mathematician
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- Ooh, that's bad
- I know
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- Where's your degree?
- Loughborough
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That's definitely good. That's inclusive, Loughborough.
The intake here is way too up itself
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- Don't mind Ursula
- Oh, I don't
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God, I wish I had an earthly now.
I wish my model had a neurobiology cross-over
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Forget your model,
he just wants to hear what you're thinking
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00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,290
- Good luck
- Come to the gym after if you can
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He doesn't like neurobiology.
Obviously he likes it...
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...but it's not what he likes, do you see?
- No
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The Krohl mostly does brains.
Matter. But Leo likes minds as the way to go
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What he likes, what he really, really likes,
is the Hard Problem
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- Which hard problem?
- We do brain science
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There is only one Hard Problem
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You appear to be talking about a brain
rather than a machine
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Sure, but the brain is a machine,
a biological machine, and it thinks
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It happens to be made of living cells
but it would make no difference...
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...if the machine was made of electronic gates and
circuits, or paperclips and rubber bands for that matter
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It just has to be able to compute
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Computers compute. Brains think.
is the machine thinking?
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If it's playing chess and you can't tell from the moves
if the computer is playing white or black, it's thinking
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00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:41,130
What it's doing is a lot of binary operations
following the rules of its programming
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00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:44,370
- So is a brain
- But can a computer do what a brain can do?
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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,100
Are you kidding? A brain doesn't come close
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00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:48,880
- Do you want to jump in?
- Not much
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00:27:51,130 --> 00:27:56,620
- Really? Why?
- It's not deep. If that's thinking
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An adding machine on speed.
A two-way switch with a memory
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Why wouldn't it play chess? But when it's me to move,
is the computer thoughtful
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...or is it sitting there like a toaster?
It's sitting there like a toaster
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00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:18,160
- So, what would be your idea of deep?
- A computer that minds losing
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If I made a computer simulating a human brain
neuron by neuron, it would mind losing
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- Do you agree?
- No
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- Amal's machine wouldn't be conscious?
- No, but how would you tell?
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00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:32,130
You can't tell by watching the wheels go round.
Just like with a brain
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I couldn't tell what you're thinking by watching
what your brain is doing, or even that you're thinking
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00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:42,200
I'll tell you what I'm thinking. There is overwhelming
evidence that the brain causes consciousness
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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,980
There's overwhelming evidence that brain activity
correlates with consciousness
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Registers consciousness. Nobody's got anywhere
trying to show how the brain is conscious
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00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,780
This is mysticism
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00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:56,890
- So, how would consciousness come about?
- I have no idea, nor does anyone else
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I thought that's why we're here.
To crack the Hard Problem
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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,710
It is. It is why we're here.
Thank you. Apologies again
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00:29:10,650 --> 00:29:13,070
Jerry.
As you see, I have a pressing engagement
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00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:16,800
There is an excellent eatery,
lavishly subsidised
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00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:20,270
After lunch, you can hang around
in the department and see what's going on
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00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:26,110
Excuse me.
Was that my interview? In the toilet?
329
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:32,190
- Yes. Good luck with your career
- Good luck with yours
330
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,320
I'm sorry, but if you separate
what you can't understand from anatomy...
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00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:40,960
...you're going backwards to Plato
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The brain is physical,
and there's no other kind of stuff out there
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00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600
There are no beans that haven't been counted
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00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:55,150
The maths to try and explain what's going on
in the brain is like trying to write the equations...
335
00:29:55,590 --> 00:30:01,280
...for a waterfall as big as... I have no idea
how big, as big as a million Niagaras maybe
336
00:30:01,790 --> 00:30:07,750
And so far we can write a short-term prediction
for two variables in a mixer-tap, probably
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00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:13,280
But the only way to go is to map brain activity...
338
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,260
...in greater and greater detail
against conscious experience
339
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:22,000
There is no hard science in a psychology test
if it's not plugged into a brain scan. Neurobiology
340
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:29,070
- Amal, you're bright, you're going to do fine
- You go ahead, Leo, I'll be right there
341
00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:37,700
I don't think you can write a prediction for a
non-linear complex system, even for a mixer-tap
342
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:42,440
Short term, you can
if you have some earlier values for the variables
343
00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:50,250
That gives you a history of the system's behaviour,
like a library of the patterns it made
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00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:56,580
Because there is a pattern, a chaotic system
isn't really random, it just looks random
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00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:00,140
So you look in the library
for previous states of the system
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00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:03,620
And where you can find some similarity
to what you're looking at now...
347
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,700
...you can expect to see similar behaviour
in the short-term future
348
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,550
You're not the tennis coach, then.
Do you work here?
349
00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:18,920
Not really. I visit.
My office is in town. Come and see us
350
00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:21,660
- Oh, okay
- What's your name?
351
00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:24,840
Admati, Amal Admati.
What's yours?
352
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:28,050
It's on the building.
But people call me Jerry
353
00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:30,200
Hey, what a coincidence!
Enjoy your dinner, my friend
354
00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:36,250
Morning, Lollipop.
How was the birthday party?
355
00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:40,810
We went on the London Eye,
and had pizza and afterwards The Lion King
356
00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:43,730
Dad, what's coincidence?
357
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,500
A coincidence? You know what a coincidence is,
it's like a long shot
358
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:49,270
- A long shot?
- No, wait
359
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:52,300
A coincidence is two things
happening at the same time
360
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,110
There's lots of things happening
at the same time all the time
361
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,660
That's true. So normally you don't bother
to call that a coincidence
362
00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:02,770
But if two things which you don't normally expect to
happen at the same time, happen at the same time...
363
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,520
Like your friend having dinner when
you're having breakfast? You don't expect that
364
00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:09,090
You do if he's in Japan, where it's dinner-time
365
00:33:09,530 --> 00:33:13,560
But say you're walking down the street and you bump
into your school friend, you'd call that a coincidence
366
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,170
- You'd say, 'Fancy seeing you here, what a coincidence'
- Specially if I was walking down the street in Japan
367
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:23,250
Especially then. You'd say,
'Wow, that's a one chance in a million coincidence'
368
00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:27,270
But there's reasons why you were both in the
same place at the same time, so in another way...
369
00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:31,660
...the million-to-one coincidence had to happen.
You just didn't have the information
370
00:33:33,090 --> 00:33:34,110
Like what?
371
00:33:35,010 --> 00:33:40,870
Suppose your school friend was Japanese,
and suppose you were both crazy about... dinosaurs
372
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:44,530
Then, maybe, instead of a million times,
you'd only have to go to Japan a hundred times...
373
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:47,420
...before you bumped into her
at the dinosaur park in Tokyo
374
00:33:48,650 --> 00:33:53,230
- Though I wouldn't bet on it personally
- I would. I could win a hundred pounds
375
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:56,690
- Or lose your pound
- Oh. Yes
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00:33:56,890 --> 00:34:00,020
You need more information. Everything
that makes the coincidence smaller and smaller...
377
00:34:00,310 --> 00:34:03,170
...till you decide it's worth betting your pound,
is information
378
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,000
- Did you have more information?
- Oh, yes
379
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:09,250
- Did you bet on your coincidence?
- Oh, yes
380
00:34:09,450 --> 00:34:12,100
In fact, it wasn't really a coincidence any more,
and I didn't need to go to Japan
381
00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:15,500
- Will you show me how?
- I will
382
00:34:18,430 --> 00:34:20,700
Eat up. The cars downstairs
and Marie-Cecile has got your bag
383
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,520
- Can I sit in from with Arthur?
- No, Sam has to sit in from
384
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:24,910
- Why?
- Because Sam is in charge
385
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,970
- And he wants you in the back with Marie-Cecile
- Boo
386
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,980
- If mummy says I can, does it mean I can?
- Definitely
387
00:34:33,730 --> 00:34:35,340
Hannah, good morning, but that's it, goodbye
388
00:34:36,430 --> 00:34:38,560
Because I'm not talking to you.
You wrote yourself into Siberia
389
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,140
Can I sit in from with Arthur?
390
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:44,430
It was inaccurate online,
and you're not looking pretty-in-pink, either
391
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,050
All fight, I was only asking
392
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,270
When Krohl Capital calls the top of the market,
we won't be calling it in a blog, you bottom-feeder
393
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,130
- We went on the London Eye
- You should have listened to me
394
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:53,740
- He's on the phone
- Have a nice winter
395
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:56,750
Mum... Rude!
396
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,390
Hi, sweetheart. No, don't wait dinner,
in fact don't wait up
397
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:04,950
Hold on...
Did you give Sally her present.) Yes
398
00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:11,200
Ne, I'd rather wake up in the country.
Here she is. Big kiss
399
00:35:13,150 --> 00:35:14,150
- Mummy...
- Simon
400
00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:17,690
- Am I an orphan?
- What?
401
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080
An orphan. Sally said if you're adopted
it means you're an orphan
402
00:35:21,340 --> 00:35:23,020
Does this look like an orphanage?
403
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:27,840
So here's what, Simon.
I'll write you a cheque for a hundred and ten million
404
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:30,630
Then you can shop worrying about me,
and I can shop worrying about you
405
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:32,390
- Ok
- Only, don't ask to come back in
406
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:34,220
- Ok
- Well, it's your call
407
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,990
- Pizza. And we went to The Lion King
- I don't know, because she's a journalist
408
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:41,780
- All fight, I'll ask him. Bye mummy
- I'm gone... Wanker
409
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,920
- So ask me
- What?
410
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:49,160
- Do you want to ask me something?
- Why?
411
00:35:50,090 --> 00:35:50,930
- You said...
- Oh
412
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:54,380
I have to ask Sam
to stop in the village for dog-biscuits
413
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,330
Dog biscuits. Right
414
00:36:00,170 --> 00:36:02,240
I've got a meeting with some people coming.
Give me a kiss and get going
415
00:36:02,810 --> 00:36:07,000
- What kind of people?
- People-kind. Don't I get a kiss?
416
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,640
- Will you show me where you work?
- I will
417
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,080
- When?
- When you find it interesting
418
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:18,640
But I'll take you to a place I know where there's
lots of interesting things, machines, monkeys...
419
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:20,420
- When?
- Soon, Cathy
420
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:23,340
- Ok. Bye, daddy
- Sayonara
421
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:33,050
Yeah... Ne, the dining room.
And let me know when my visitors are in the lift
422
00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:54,850
Jerry. Beautiful apartment
423
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,470
Shut the fuck up, and where do you get off calling me
by my first name, you miserable piece of shit?
424
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:10,850
Oh Christ
425
00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:28,550
Alright...
You need to put your head between your knees
426
00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:42,720
Sit down.
I want to ask you something
427
00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:48,850
- What did you pay for that watch?
- Seven grand, sir
428
00:37:49,590 --> 00:37:52,310
- Exactly how much?
- Seven thousand, one hundred and forty pounds
429
00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:56,750
- What do you pay for a haircut?
- A hundred and fifty including a tip
430
00:37:57,510 --> 00:38:00,690
And this is - what? - five years since you came
in here with your ass falling out of your trousers...
431
00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:02,660
...and found money pouring through the door
432
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:08,990
Do you know what brings that money through the door?
Confidence. Belief
433
00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,420
- Can I say something, please?
- No, you can't. You're not here to say anything
434
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,600
You're here to read this and sign it
435
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:19,170
it says you agree not to look for or accept
a job outside the firm for two years
436
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:23,270
With no salary increase, no bonus,
and meanwhile you sit in your corner...
437
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,970
...and share your limp-dick, short-the-market
wisdom with nobody except your supervisor
438
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:31,800
With a sign round your neck saying 'Asshole',
but that's not in the letter
439
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,180
Then maybe you'll think Mice before
dumping your unbelief with our name on it...
440
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:41,500
...on a scumbag analyst selling his dope
to high-rollers like for example our clients...
441
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,300
...for whom pessimism is the bubonic plague,
you brain-dead quant
442
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,550
What in fuck's name did you think you were doing?
443
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:56,250
- Getting your attention
- Well, you got it
444
00:39:11,890 --> 00:39:13,960
- Can you stand up?
- Yes, sir
445
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,250
Then sign and walk
446
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:25,050
Two years? The arsehole sign will be around
a lot of people's necks before two years
447
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:29,240
The market is acting stupid,
and the models are out of whack...
448
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,550
...because we don't know
how to build a stupid computer
449
00:39:32,610 --> 00:39:34,630
The market is a belief system
with a short memory
450
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:37,550
And it's leveraged
on highly correlated billion-dollar bets
451
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:42,100
And trillions on side-bets,
which are going to go wrong together
452
00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:54,000
I mean to zero.
You pay me for my research
453
00:39:55,450 --> 00:39:58,750
I don't pay you to post it
like a fridge magnet on the reception desk
454
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,810
- But I'm not wrong
- You're early, which is the same thing
455
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:09,380
- You're going short the market?
- Use the service stairs
456
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:17,570
- How is it, Dr Matthews?
- Good
457
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:20,880
Elaine, those shocks are coming
at regular five-second intervals
458
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:24,500
Keep an eye on the red light,
keep the reactions fairly even
459
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,890
It's your distress which increases,
not over-dramatic
460
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:43,220
Hello
461
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:44,910
That's good. Take a break
462
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:48,720
- Who...?
- Is that lady being hurt?
463
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,850
- No. We're playing a trick. It's a kind of game
- Did she know it was a game?
464
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,140
Yes. She's my friend Elaine. She was pretending
465
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,530
- Why?
- It's all fight. It's what we do here. Sometimes
466
00:41:59,890 --> 00:42:02,210
We... it's difficult to explain
467
00:42:04,330 --> 00:42:07,440
My name's Hilary. Hillary Matthews
I don't know your name
468
00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:10,350
It's Cathy
469
00:42:18,110 --> 00:42:19,630
- Your dad's looking for you
- Jerry's here?
470
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:23,740
He's giving his daughter the tour.
She wants all the animals let out
471
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,190
So he thought he'd better show her
we're nicer to people
472
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:27,640
Oh dear
473
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:32,380
He's come to hand out medals. The Krohl
is going to have the cover of Nature, did you know?
474
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,910
It's Ursula's team, working with Stanford,
infecting neurons with a photoreceptor
475
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:39,970
I understood it when she explained it,
but not so I could explain it to anyone else
476
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:44,280
She can get a single brain cell to spike
by flashing a blue laser on it
477
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,440
- Mouse brain?
- Yes, a mouse brain
478
00:42:47,860 --> 00:42:49,070
- What?
- I didn't say anything
479
00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:51,970
I won't tell anybody
480
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:56,550
I think it's a big step forward
in the study of mouse brains
481
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,550
That's mean
482
00:42:58,970 --> 00:43:01,500
Well, they're doing optics with mice
and calling it consciousness
483
00:43:02,140 --> 00:43:06,140
A mouse is a bundle of behavioural responses
to physical stimuli
484
00:43:06,590 --> 00:43:08,990
Poking it with a stick is the same thing bigger
485
00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:13,360
Light photons hit the retina,
smell molecules get the whiskers twitching
486
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:18,390
And improved technology will show the mechanism
all the way to cheese response
487
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:22,100
It's only amazing, it's not counter-intuitive
488
00:43:24,010 --> 00:43:33,210
But cognition - reasoning, imagining, believing -
that's hard
489
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:38,690
How does the brain do self-consciousness?
Reference? Metaphor?
490
00:43:40,030 --> 00:43:43,110
'I wandered lonely as a cloud'.
As a what?
491
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:51,000
'Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins,
which feed among the lilies'. Like two what which what?
492
00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:55,740
That's hard.
Where is it happening? How?
493
00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:59,790
If you had a choice,
would you choose a mouse?
494
00:44:00,330 --> 00:44:05,250
Would you choose optics? Would you spend your time
looking at a brain while you poke it with a laser?
495
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,830
Not me, boss. It's a no-brainer.
The psyche in psychology is Greek for soul
496
00:44:11,330 --> 00:44:13,540
You need something with a mind
which can talk you through
497
00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:20,230
Still, the cover of Nature is pretty sexy.
Do you have anything that sexy?
498
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:25,100
It would do wonders for the department's fitness
in the struggle for survival at the Krohl
499
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:29,410
- Seriously?
- Seriously. The ground is moving under us
500
00:44:29,950 --> 00:44:34,690
- What would be that sexy?
- A predictive theory of human behaviour, for instance
501
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,970
If there were a Nobel Prize for psychology, that
would do it. Why are predictions wrong half the time?
502
00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:44,320
Being wrong about human behaviour half the time
is our guiding star, Leo
503
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:48,750
It's what's telling us
the study of the mind is not a science
504
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:56,180
We're dealing in mind-stuff that doesn't show up
in a scan: accountability, duty, free will, language
505
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:58,660
All the stuff that makes behaviour unpredictable
506
00:44:59,140 --> 00:45:02,720
You're not listening.
It's the Jerry Institute for Brain Science
507
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,240
And I'd like to have something that gets his attention
before there's a genetic algorithm...
508
00:45:07,450 --> 00:45:09,830
...that will do our job in a computer
- It won't
509
00:45:10,170 --> 00:45:11,960
- I bet they're working on it
- It won't compute
510
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,690
At Loughborough we did a child custody test
511
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:23,460
You describe two parents. Parent A is across-the-board
average: health, wealth, social life, everything
512
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,580
Parent B is positives and negatives: richer, but travels
a lot, great rapport but minor health problems, etcetera
513
00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:38,570
When you ask which parent should be awarded custody,
you get a fat majority for Parent B
514
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:45,430
When you ask which parent should be denied custody,
you get a fat majority for Parent B
515
00:45:45,970 --> 00:45:48,730
it doesn't compute.
We did it over and over, and it didn't compute
516
00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:53,630
- You never brought that up at your interview
- Leo, do you remember my interview?
517
00:45:55,470 --> 00:45:59,930
- What do you think of Bo?
- Who? Oh, Bo. I haven't had time to...
518
00:46:00,170 --> 00:46:04,410
She's unqualified in psychology, and over-qualified
in maths but I've a good feeling about her
519
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:06,820
And here you are
520
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,000
- Come by later. Something you might like
- Oh, yes? What?
521
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,580
I'll see you later, too, Bo
522
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,820
- I've got the questionnaires, Dr Matthews
- Hilary is tine. All done?
523
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:25,460
- Yes. The guinea pigs are doing coffee break
- Test subjects. The guinea pigs get lettuce
524
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,570
Sony. I brought you one
525
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:33,860
ls Elaine a research assistant?
526
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:38,190
No. That would work if we used real electricity.
She's an actor
527
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:41,790
We're doing a variation of a well-known experiment
528
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:44,610
The test subjects don't know
they're the subject of the experiment
529
00:46:44,910 --> 00:46:46,470
They think Elaine is.
I'll fill you in as we go
530
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:50,180
- How did you get on with Leo?
- Dr Reinhart? He seemed very nice
531
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:53,180
- I really enjoyed the interview
- Well, so you know what this day is about
532
00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:57,220
- Well, to see if I'm smart, I guess
- No, that's a given
533
00:46:57,630 --> 00:47:02,000
It's to see if you'll be happy here.
For you to see, for us to see
534
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,210
Thank you
535
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:08,810
- Oh...
- We don't look at them
536
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:13,990
The questionnaires have to be convincing but
they're a charade for the benefit of the test subjects
537
00:47:19,770 --> 00:47:21,960
We divide the subjects into two groups randomly
538
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,050
We tell group one they scored high for empathy,
we tell group Mo they scored low for empathy
539
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:32,820
Se, when we get to the experiment we can allow
for suggestibility. But we're not testing for empathy
540
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,630
- What, then?
- Motivation
541
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:38,970
Egoist motives and altruistic motives.
Selfish and unselfish
542
00:47:41,860 --> 00:47:43,830
There's a common-sense view
that we're selfish by nature
543
00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:47,900
And unselfish when we override our nature,
basically by culture. What do you think?
544
00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:53,340
I think it's good to be good,
I don't see that it matters what makes us good
545
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,520
It might matter if people who are out for themselves
think they're justified by biology
546
00:48:00,110 --> 00:48:00,960
Yes
547
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:08,230
We're trying to understand other minds,
and we don't really understand our own
548
00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:15,400
Why did you bring me this coffee? Perhaps
you thought I looked as if I needed some coffee
549
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:22,350
So that would be an altruistic motive. Or perhaps
your ultimate motivation was that you wanted...
550
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:27,390
...to make some sort of good impression, which would
be an egoist motive for bringing me a cup of coffee
551
00:48:28,810 --> 00:48:34,570
I could ask you. But how do I know the answer is
honest? And if it's honest, how do I know it's reliable?
552
00:48:36,810 --> 00:48:40,410
- What do you do with these?
- Shred them. Confidentiality issues
553
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,510
The data we collect from an experiment
is kept anonymous
554
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:48,010
A lot of detail here, personal detail.
Not to be using it...
555
00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:50,400
The reason we don't look
is once you look...
556
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,850
...you find the special cases
who will skew your precious results. Outliers
557
00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:01,260
But the point is, the subjects are a random sample
558
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:06,380
If you're tempted to weed out the outliers
you're rigging the experiment, and that's a sin
559
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:13,790
If there's a hidden bias in the design of the experiment
the results are not information, they're misinformation
560
00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:17,110
And understanding the human mind
is difficult without that
561
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:21,240
It's like trying to catch a sunbeam
in your cupped hands
562
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,940
You're testing for motivation, one on one with Elaine,
and you're what? Adjusting for empathy?
563
00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:29,350
Yes. What?
564
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:32,130
- It just seems kind of approximate
- Really?
565
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,690
- Empathy-wise, you've made two groups of clones
- Well, how else?
566
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:43,110
You can match every subject with their own Elaines,
with very high or medium high empathy, or low, whatever
567
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:44,490
We haven't got a lot of Elaines
568
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,670
Ne, you describe Elaine each time different,
to tit their questionnaire
569
00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:52,640
There's this one here who's a middle child,
so Elaine can be a middle child
570
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,830
I wasn't doing egoist or altruist anything
571
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,540
The man said to bring you this cup of coffee
so I brought you the fucking coffee
572
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,690
I'm sorry. I don't swear a lot
573
00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:28,180
- Do you swear in Chinese?
- No, never. My grandmother would have killed me
574
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:32,210
- Where did you graduate, Bo?
- Shanghai and Caltech
575
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:40,520
- Then my masters at Cambridge
- Really?
576
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:47,520
Then I got a job offer from Krohl Capital Management
I was a quant for a year at Krohl, but...
577
00:50:47,970 --> 00:50:52,530
Well, the money was good, I'll say that,
but it wasn't good money, you know?
578
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:53,610
Good money?
579
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,540
Gaming the market to make more money
for people with money
580
00:50:56,910 --> 00:51:00,260
- This is Jews money, so that's good, isn't it?
- He did something good with it
581
00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:04,600
But I'd like to do something good with math
without turning math into money first
582
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,520
A friend at KCM said I should try for a psychology
doctorate here, a quant, Amal. He knows you
583
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:21,130
Who?
Oh. Yes. Amal. Yes, he would do that
584
00:51:22,170 --> 00:51:25,820
- Do you see Amal?
- Yes. He's... who I'm seeing
585
00:51:27,050 --> 00:51:29,050
- Coincidence
- Did he tell you about us?
586
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:32,410
- Really?
- No!
587
00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:36,460
- We were both up for this slot
- Oh. And you got it
588
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Yes. It was a miracle
589
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:37,270
- You're not right
- Sony
590
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,020
- Leave your work in the office
- Yes
591
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:55,210
We've got this test going. Escape options from testing
for pain thresholds on a volunteer, that's the story
592
00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:04,820
Using electric shocks.
And Jerry Krohl's daughter walked in on...
593
00:53:05,020 --> 00:53:07,320
- I didn't know he had a daughter
- Nor did I, but he does
594
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:14,710
School-age like Catherine. Her name's Catherine.
She saw, she was upset seeing...
595
00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:27,300
She thought the girt was being tortured.
You should have seen her face
596
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:32,130
- But you explained, didn't you?
- Of course. I think so. Yes
597
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:34,370
Then why are you holding on to it?
598
00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:41,900
It must have happened often enough,
girls with the same name
599
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:43,980
- You don't get used to it
- I suppose you don't
600
00:53:48,220 --> 00:53:50,430
- Julia, can you remember?
- What?
601
00:53:50,670 --> 00:53:51,860
- The Purple Gang
- Yes
602
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,630
- We were bullies, weren't we?
- No, no more than we were bullied
603
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:57,540
We used to gang up on the ones who were...
604
00:53:58,240 --> 00:53:59,900
- You know...
- Gimpy
605
00:54:00,550 --> 00:54:04,130
Peggy Potter was gimpy
because her mother knitted her school jumpers
606
00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:10,230
I used to make Gillian Meadows cry because
the gang said I had a crush on her, which I did
607
00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:13,590
- Stop it. Schoolgirls
- But who can I trust her with?
608
00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:19,590
Who can I trust not to make her cry,
flicking her behind the knees with a wet towel...
609
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,790
...like we used to, rampaging
through the changing rooms after games?
610
00:54:24,210 --> 00:54:26,800
Buck up, Hilly.
If that's Catherine's only problem...
611
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:31,850
I missed her like half of me
from the first day
612
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:44,870
And the worst thing was, there was literally
nothing I could give her, do for her, she'd just gone
613
00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:53,150
And then I thought up something I could do
just to... just to be good
614
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,900
So that in return someone,
God, I suppose, would look after her
615
00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:07,150
- Do you believe in God?
- I have to
616
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,050
But I'll tell you what, though. Everyone should say
a prayer every day, anyway, for who you love...
617
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,950
...just because it puts them in your diary
618
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:24,100
For ages now, I've gone for weeks
without thinking of Catherine. Months
619
00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:30,450
I've been letting her go,
as though I'd swapped her for a doctorate
620
00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:34,270
Oh, Julia...
621
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,200
Git yer haynds off mah woman
622
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:44,400
Ursula! I need to ask you something.
Could the cosmos be teleological?
623
00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:48,200
Oh, fuck a duck.
No. Why?
624
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:53,240
Teleological, sweet pea, having a purpose,
nothing to do with the telly
625
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,520
Don't patronise me, you dyke,
you're on my patch
626
00:55:57,350 --> 00:56:03,010
- How about panpsychism?
- No. Nature isn't conscious. Trees are not conscious
627
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:08,020
- Functionalism?
- No. A thermostat is not even a tiny bit conscious
628
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,710
Have you been reading after lights out?
629
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:12,760
What about quantum-level brain processes
to explain consciousness?
630
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:13,800
She has
631
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:17,300
Could you show me how Gödel's Proof
means a brain can't be modelled on a computer?
632
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:21,600
You wouldn't know Gödel's Proof
if it had suspenders in Selfridge's window
633
00:56:22,110 --> 00:56:24,070
- Ursula, I need you to show me
- Now?
634
00:56:24,430 --> 00:56:28,590
No, not now.
Sundays and evenings, tutorials
635
00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:31,290
- Oh, thanks
- Why?
636
00:56:33,110 --> 00:56:37,320
For a conference paper, sort of, with
a summer vac stitched on, is what I'm thinking
637
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:39,140
- Lovely. Where?
- Venice
638
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:44,260
Leo's giving the status paper for the Krohl,
big psycho conference in June
639
00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:51,290
And he blagged them into giving me a place
on a round-table on consciousness
640
00:56:54,030 --> 00:57:02,240
What?
No way. Leo? No way
641
00:58:15,490 --> 00:58:17,230
So... how've you been?
642
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,540
- Have you got a date?
- I did have
643
00:58:25,690 --> 00:58:29,520
Drinks party for UCL's new Nobel,
but it's in the hotel. I'll catch what's left of it
644
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:33,130
- I can come back if you like
- I'll be asleep
645
00:58:33,820 --> 00:58:36,480
In case I don't see you,
good luck with the physiology of... what?
646
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,450
- I can't be there. I'll be at Leo Reinhart's session
- 'The Physiology of High Stakes'
647
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:48,660
We took saliva samples at the world
poker championship. The cortisol levels went crazy
648
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,090
Is that good? I don't mean good
649
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:55,380
I haven't heard from you for years
650
00:58:55,930 --> 00:58:58,730
- I haven't heard from you at all
- Really? That's bad
651
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:08,320
- ls the sex better at UCL or Loughborough?
- UCL. Or it's to do with being a pref
652
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,670
- Won't I see you on the boat?
- Boat?
653
00:59:12,070 --> 00:59:16,990
The Krohl party. It's on Jerry Krohl's boat, an eyesore,
frankly, but I had an invitation under my door
654
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:22,640
No, I'm taking off after my round table.
Florence, Pisa, Siena, on the cheap
655
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:25,770
- Do you want to come?
- Don't you have anyone to go with?
656
00:59:28,110 --> 00:59:31,090
- You're anyone
- Hilly
657
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,760
- Did you read my...
- Yeah
658
00:59:36,970 --> 00:59:41,460
Let me make three points
about your round-table pre-print
659
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,510
Don't circulate it
660
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,340
If you circulate it, don't put your name on it
661
00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:50,610
If you put your name on it,
don't put the Krohl's name on it
662
00:59:51,290 --> 00:59:55,250
Four points. If you circulate it with your name
and the Krohl's name on it...
663
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:59,700
...don't call it 'ls God the last man standing?'
- Why?
664
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:03,240
Because it will make you unemployable.
You'd have to do philosophy
665
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:05,320
I haven't written anything
which isn't in plain sight
666
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,760
Materialism is in trouble,
and we're all materialists now
667
01:00:10,050 --> 01:00:17,580
Everything is matter. There is no science
that says beauty is truth or truth beauty
668
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:24,180
But the gondolas are heaving with name-tagged
materialists having their minds blown by Venice
669
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:28,520
What is to be done with the sublime
if you're proud to be a materialist?
670
01:00:29,830 --> 01:00:34,100
To save the appearance of value,
no theory is too unlikely...
671
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:40,590
...no idea too far-out to float,
so long as it sounds like science
672
01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:46,890
Elementary particles with teeny weeny
consciousness, or a cosmos with attitude
673
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:51,900
Or the life of the mind
as the software of a biological computer
674
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,540
These are desperate measures, Spike.
What does materialism remind you of? It's a faith
675
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:04,570
But it's pathetic to rely on a supreme being
to underwrite what you call your values
676
01:01:05,180 --> 01:01:07,540
- Why are you afraid of making your own?
- You don't claim to make your own
677
01:01:08,050 --> 01:01:10,740
What's the difference between a supreme being
and being programmed by your biology?
678
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,590
- Freedom. I can override the programming
- Who can? Who's the you outside your brain? Where?
679
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,890
I wish I'd pulled that primatologist with the
thigh boots who was hitting on me at registration
680
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:23,130
Why don't you leave me alone?
681
01:01:29,330 --> 01:01:30,600
At least change the title, will you?
682
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,120
- All fight
- At least
683
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,120
- But you didn't write these equations, I know that much
- I might have done
684
01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:44,790
- No, not these. You shagged a mathematician
- No, I didn't
685
01:01:48,550 --> 01:01:53,420
But there's a Chinese gilt in the department
who's phenomenal. She was a quant at KCM before
686
01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:58,120
- Krohl's hedge-fund? That's a come-down
- She doesn't think so. I'm mad about her, actually
687
01:01:58,270 --> 01:02:03,370
She's designed an experiment like nothing
in the literature. Ninety-six kids in four age-groups...
688
01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:04,850
- Ninety-six?
- Close to, probably
689
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,950
We've got pretty much an entire school
participating, thanks to Jerry
690
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,790
- So you liked her equations?
- I liked them, but they're not tied into hard data
691
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,760
They show there isn't enough geological time...
692
01:02:18,290 --> 01:02:22,980
...for the living world to have been selected-out
by chance mutations
693
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:25,020
Really? Look around
694
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,510
- You're just hung up on your personal incredulity
- Well, where's yours?
695
01:02:29,610 --> 01:02:32,440
Someone tells you you can run the film backward
billions of years...
696
01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:37,890
...to an enormous bang and nothing but particles
joining up into big clumps like this one
697
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:44,840
Except not like this one, because on this one
the chemistry came alive and kicked into an algorithm...
698
01:02:45,010 --> 01:02:51,150
...that kept unspooling till there was you collecting
spit from a poker game, and you don't bat an eyelid
699
01:02:51,290 --> 01:02:54,980
Yup. Love it. Now do God,
and see which one of us looks credulous
700
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:03,390
I went to Tuscany once.
A conference in Pisa, by Easy Jet
701
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,700
The control tower was a disappointment.
A missed branding opportunity, one felt
702
01:03:15,580 --> 01:03:17,790
You wouldn't want someone
hanging on to your skirts...
703
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,730
...who thinks when you've seen
one town in Tuscany you've seen them all
704
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:26,010
I wouldn't know what to do with myself
if there's no conference
705
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,840
I get antsy if there isn't a new journal
to look at every day
706
01:03:29,210 --> 01:03:31,490
- I thought you were going to the party
- Do you mind if I change my mind?
707
01:03:31,820 --> 01:03:39,230
Why? You're not going to spoil your record
by worrying about me, are you?
708
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,530
Anyway,
don't you want to meet the Nobel laureate?
709
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:49,010
I met him, he's a force-of-nature type who's realised
he can act modest now. It's quite irritating
710
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:59,790
All right... But I'm going to sleep
711
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,320
Still saying our prayers, are we?
Still God, is it?
712
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:21,540
Whoever's up for it. I wish you'd stop saying
'God' like that, as if I'm talking about someone...
713
01:04:21,660 --> 01:04:25,530
...who created the world in six days and then
had a rest, he'd think I was a complete idiot
714
01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:30,750
But there are things we believe
are right or wrong like, say, cruelty
715
01:04:31,540 --> 01:04:35,670
And if this belief is a brain-state, that's fine by me,
but the brain-state is about something
716
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,310
It's about cruelty, which is right or wrong
whether we're thinking about it or not
717
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,710
You don't need God for that
718
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,000
But you need something for it to be true,
some kind of overall moral intelligence...
719
01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:50,340
...otherwise we're just marking our own homework.
That's what I pray to for Catherine
720
01:04:50,620 --> 01:04:53,320
Because somewhere between ape-men
and the beginning of religion...
721
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:56,110
...we became aware of an enormous fact
we didn't understand
722
01:04:56,370 --> 01:05:02,360
We did. Its name was death.
Who's Catherine?
723
01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:14,900
- Oh, sorry. She's my daughter
- You haven't got a daughter. Have you?
724
01:05:15,730 --> 01:05:20,980
Yes. Don't worry.
She'll be thirteen in November
725
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,750
- Thirteen? So...
- Fifteen
726
01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:24,150
- What?
- I was fifteen
727
01:05:25,410 --> 01:05:29,100
God, Hilly. Where is she?
728
01:05:34,910 --> 01:05:37,680
Catherine was possibly the last 'shame' baby
729
01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:43,770
Nowadays the babies are mostly taken away
from mothers who neglect them or can't cope
730
01:05:44,260 --> 01:05:47,080
But shame is pretty much extinct
731
01:05:49,350 --> 01:05:54,780
When she's eighteen she can ask to see her birth
certificate. If she wants to. If she knows she's adopted
732
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,530
- Hilly, I'm sorry
- Thanks
733
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:09,670
- Would you do something for me, Spike?
- Anything
734
01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,650
- Promise?
- Should I get dressed or undressed?
735
01:06:14,370 --> 01:06:19,430
- Will you, though?
- Yes. Okay. Sure. What?
736
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,370
- Will you say a prayer?
- What?
737
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:28,530
Pray for her. Just for a moment
738
01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:33,820
No. You mean like pray-to-God pray?
No. Why?
739
01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:37,760
- Just because. If you, of all people, if even you...
- No. I mean... Hilly...
740
01:06:39,050 --> 01:06:41,310
- It would be meaningless, wouldn't it?
- I don't know. That would be up to you
741
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,280
- It wouldn't be up to me. It just is meaningless
- If it's meaningless, what's your problem?
742
01:06:44,460 --> 01:06:47,060
- I'd be betraying everything I believe in
- And that's a problem, is it?
743
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,670
Is that why you pray for forgiveness?
744
01:06:57,050 --> 01:07:05,360
I just want to be allowed to know,
to stop imagining, and I pray for her
745
01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:14,000
Please God let Catherine be all right.
Please God let her parents be kind to her
746
01:07:14,370 --> 01:07:19,020
Oh. So what happened to
'Please Overall Moral Intelligence?
747
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:23,790
- Aren't you embarrassed?
- Yes
748
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,230
- Do you want something from the minibar?
- The minibar?
749
01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:38,370
You already had...
Are you having a shower?
750
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:51,760
You're crying in the shower, aren't you?
I know you are
751
01:08:48,910 --> 01:08:51,180
It's lovely. Thank you
752
01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:55,020
- Has Leo seen this?
- I wanted you to see it first
753
01:08:55,350 --> 01:08:59,390
Quite right. I'll want to go through the raw data,
all of it, and to be taken through the maths
754
01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:02,390
It checks out. The mathematics is basic
755
01:09:02,980 --> 01:09:07,810
This is bloody sensational.
But I wish you'd waited for me, Bo
756
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:11,240
No offence, but we're going to have to be
bullet-proof, immaculate
757
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:13,570
I was ready. The kids were ready
758
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:17,070
Well, it's great. Eighty-eight kids is damned good
759
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,090
- And I wanted it for you when you came back
- You...?
760
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,000
Leo. Beautiful day
761
01:09:22,650 --> 01:09:26,170
Fuck the beautiful day. What do you call this,
and why has it got our name on it?
762
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,920
- You mean my Venice discussion paper?
- Yes, I mean your Venice discussion paper...
763
01:09:40,540 --> 01:09:44,530
which is the subject of several e-mails
from the comedians among my friends and colleagues
764
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:48,250
We do science here, Hilary
765
01:09:48,430 --> 01:09:50,700
This is about science,
the psychology of the scientific mind-set
766
01:09:51,270 --> 01:09:54,250
- Psychology of bullshit. It's about God
- It's about the Hard Problem
767
01:09:55,370 --> 01:09:58,090
It says every theory proposed
for the problem of consciousness...
768
01:09:58,430 --> 01:10:01,580
...has the same degree of demonstrability
as divine intervention
769
01:10:02,130 --> 01:10:04,090
So, psychologically, they're equivalent
770
01:10:04,570 --> 01:10:06,680
What it says is that if you're an atheist,
you're in denial
771
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:10,370
No, it says we maybe in denial
about mind-body dualism
772
01:10:11,090 --> 01:10:13,080
Oh, well, that takes care of the Hard Problem
773
01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:17,680
The reason it's hard, you pig's arse,
is that mind-body is the problem
774
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:26,170
I could have done without this at the minute
775
01:10:32,090 --> 01:10:34,060
Welcome back, I think.
Sony about my language
776
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:42,090
- Also me in Venice. I apologise
- I took it as a compliment, Leo
777
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,250
- Has something happened?
- I think so
778
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,670
The Krohl is taking on another
behavioural psychologist, starting September
779
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,830
Well, that's good, isn't it?
780
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,940
He's not coming to my department.
He'll have an office in Biochem
781
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:59,990
- Who's paying for him? Is he on our budget?
- No
782
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,640
- That's not so good
- I'm impressed you understand
783
01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:10,480
If you hadn't outed yourself as a Cartesian dualist
you could have ended up as a head of department
784
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:16,580
But... Psychology as an enterprise
is on its way out, is what they're telling us
785
01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:22,370
We're on a count-down to the embedded brain
answering all the questions about the disembodied mind
786
01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:27,090
- What's his angle, this...?
- Humane-related performance in human subjects
787
01:11:27,790 --> 01:11:32,030
- Hormone-related performance? Like what?
- Like working on the trading desk at Krohl Capital
788
01:11:33,490 --> 01:11:36,720
- Am I going too fast for you?
- No
789
01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:39,920
- Jerry is smitten
- I can see. Where did all this...?
790
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:41,150
- On his boat
- His boat?
791
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,730
Jerry read this man's paper in Venice. The paper
was nothing to do with the financial market
792
01:11:46,740 --> 01:11:51,580
It was poker players,
but Jerry got it in one
793
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:58,620
it was about risk-taking and risk aversion.
So he invited Spencer to the Krohl party
794
01:11:59,260 --> 01:12:01,260
- Spencer?
- His name is Spencer something
795
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:08,290
it was a love match, Jerry in a yachting cap,
and Spencer. A trading desk is next up
796
01:12:08,820 --> 01:12:14,420
- I'm trying to follow the money. Where's the money?
- Stress releases a cocktail of hormones
797
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:21,810
By getting your traders to spit into a paper cup, you
can predict who'll get risk-happy and lose his gains
798
01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:26,250
Or, contrariwise, predict
who will be paralysed by risk-aversion...
799
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:29,530
...in a roller-coaster market
where there's money to be made
800
01:12:30,510 --> 01:12:36,080
Do we like this? We adore it.
it monetises the hormonal state of your trading desk
801
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:41,390
So it's behavioural,
but I'll be damned if it's psychology
802
01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:49,400
There are people here who wonder why we're
in the building. Jerry, isn't one of them, so far
803
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:55,000
But it's a long time since the department
published anything that went viral
804
01:12:57,420 --> 01:12:59,570
For Jerry that's like trading at a loss
805
01:13:01,270 --> 01:13:03,060
Do you want to see something sexy?
806
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:03,700
That's a very good question.
I don't think I've ever been asked this question before
807
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,000
In fact, you may be the first person
who's ever asked it. Congratulations, Julia
808
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:16,130
- So, yes indeed, what exactly is a hedge-fund?
- Sony
809
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:20,190
Well, I don't know what a hedge-fund does.
Do you, Spike?
810
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:22,090
- Yes
- Go on, then
811
01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:27,700
- No. I want to see if Amal knows
- What? But I work in a hedge-fund
812
01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:30,550
- I prefer to be the judge of that
- But I really want to know
813
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:38,400
Well, let's say you have ten million pounds
which you'd like to put to work
814
01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:45,220
You decide to invest it in Krohl Capital Management.
First, Jerry Krohl takes...
815
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:53,200
per cent per year, £200,000,
as his fee for taking your money to gamble with
816
01:14:53,740 --> 01:15:02,550
Then he gambles with it, and he keeps twenty percent
of the winnings. If he loses, the losses are all yours
817
01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:05,030
Do you work in a hedge-fund?
818
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:14,390
But why would anyone give... Could you explain
what you actually spend your day doing?
819
01:15:15,090 --> 01:15:19,080
Do I have to?
I don't ask you about Pilates. No offence
820
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:22,360
- None taken
- It's me who does Pilates. You can ask me
821
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:27,860
With Pilates, it's very difficult
to think of anything to ask
822
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,530
- I suppose so
- Dump him
823
01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:35,170
What have you done to my flower?
Honestly
824
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:39,900
He spends his day staring at...
how many computer screens is it, Amal?
825
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:42,510
- Call it seven
- Seven. That would be...
826
01:15:42,710 --> 01:15:47,770
...stocks, bonds, commodities, currencies,
pornography, Sky Sports and e-mails
827
01:15:48,260 --> 01:15:51,160
It doesn't explain
why anyone would give him their money
828
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,730
- Amal?
- Because Krohl Capital Management...
829
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:01,280
...averaged sixteen per cent per annum
return on capital. Averaged, after expenses
830
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,610
- That's a lot
- Yes, I do know that
831
01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:11,240
The ultimate motivation is that banking regulations
don't apply to hedge-funds
832
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:17,920
In fact, getting round the rules is the reason for
hedge-funds. Like Basel rules for capital reserves
833
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,030
I could explain that, but I decline.
First it's Basel Rules...
834
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:28,650
...and before you know where you are,
it's arbitrage, leverage, securitisation... I refuse
835
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,420
Amal doesn't mean to be rude
836
01:16:30,710 --> 01:16:32,420
- Something's burning
- He's embarrassed
837
01:16:33,150 --> 01:16:37,360
Sony it's a bit overdone.
Everyone help yourself. Give me a glass, someone
838
01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:42,870
Oh, who brought that beautiful flower?
Bo, thank you. And champagne
839
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,510
- How much does this cost, Amal?
- That is so crass. A hundred quid
840
01:16:47,010 --> 01:16:50,550
Pay attention a minute.
This evening is for Bo
841
01:16:51,090 --> 01:16:55,060
And The Journal of Cogntive Studies.
To Bo's first publication!
842
01:16:55,570 --> 01:16:57,050
- Has everyone got a glass?
- Thank you
843
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,050
- Mine is not the only name on this paper
- Only the first
844
01:16:59,390 --> 01:17:01,530
You all understand,
there would be no paper without Hilary
845
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,800
Not true. This is Ho's paper, it's her experiment,
and it's going to cause a stir
846
01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:10,530
It doesn't look good if the authors
are getting out from under. Let me
847
01:17:11,650 --> 01:17:18,230
The toast is 'Ultimate Goods.
B. Sheng-Tsu and H.J. Matthews'
848
01:17:24,780 --> 01:17:25,980
Done. Eat
849
01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:32,650
- Did Leo Reinhart ask to see the raw data?
- Do you really think he wouldn't?
850
01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:37,050
- He called it a beautiful experiment
- A work of art
851
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:40,960
- Oh, shut up, Spencer
- What sort of stir will it cause, Hilly?
852
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:47,170
The sort where an experiment comes up
with the wrong answer for a lot of people
853
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:50,860
Especially when it's the wrong answer
to its own question
854
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:53,780
Spike is the sceptic at the feast,
but Bo and I don't care
855
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,720
I'm sorry about the feast, though.
Don't eat it. I'm so sorry, Bo
856
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:05,810
- It's really tasty
- I don't mind
857
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,160
Interesting.
Was the recipe in 'Cognitive Studies?
858
01:18:10,810 --> 01:18:13,660
There's a certain sort of absent-mindedness
about it, you mean?
859
01:18:14,170 --> 01:18:18,670
Oh, bugger it! Cheese. Cheese and biscuits,
coffee and I've baked a cake
860
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:37,370
'Ultimate Goods'. Hilary makes altruism sound
as if it had something to do with morality
861
01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:40,450
- She was always like that
- Doesn't it mean being good?
862
01:18:41,250 --> 01:18:44,090
- No
- Well, it's probably because she is good
863
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,300
- How do you work that out?
- I didn't work it out
864
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,250
Well, shut up, then.
Oh dear
865
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,770
Altruism just means increasing
someone else's fitness at the expense of your own
866
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,690
Now you're making it sound
as if it's got something to do with Pilates
867
01:19:02,150 --> 01:19:06,450
- And you shut up, too
- So sorry
868
01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:09,590
Tell her about vampire bats
869
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,270
I'll tell you the miracle of the brain worm,
that'll cheer you up
870
01:19:15,670 --> 01:19:22,220
To begin with there's a parasite that lives
inside a cow. The eggs come out with the cowpat
871
01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:27,380
Problem: how does the parasite get back
inside the cow to complete its life cycle?
872
01:19:28,510 --> 01:19:34,130
First, the eggs get eaten by a snail, and develop
inside the snail before being ejected in a mucus...
873
01:19:34,670 --> 01:19:41,200
...which is eaten by ants. About fifty
of these tiny creatures are now inside an ant
874
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:48,220
They bore a hole in the stomach wall, and one
of the fifty works its way up into the brain of the ant
875
01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:53,770
This is the brain worm.
it changes the behaviour of the ant...
876
01:19:54,620 --> 01:20:00,390
...causing the ant to obsessively climb up
to the tip of a blade of grass over and over again
877
01:20:01,180 --> 01:20:05,550
Thus increasing its chances
of being eaten by a cow
878
01:20:10,540 --> 01:20:13,750
But the brain worm's life is over
879
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,190
- Now, that's what I call altruism
- Well, I don't. It's horrible
880
01:20:20,140 --> 01:20:21,940
- Stilton
- No thanks
881
01:20:22,460 --> 01:20:23,610
- What are we talking about?
- About you, of course
882
01:20:25,370 --> 01:20:28,720
Did you read it? It's a corker
883
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:36,450
Eighty-eight kids in a sort of creative writing class
with alternate-choice modules...
884
01:20:36,930 --> 01:20:39,890
...scored for egoist slash altruist values
885
01:20:40,450 --> 01:20:46,660
Which shows, or is supposed to show, or
could be said to show when held up to a strong light...
886
01:20:47,950 --> 01:20:50,630
...that six-year-olds are nicer than eight-year-olds
887
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:54,860
Who are nicer than ten-year-olds,
who are nicer than twelve-year-olds
888
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,000
- it does show that
- Which, our authors conclude...
889
01:20:58,790 --> 01:21:03,300
...points to a strung indication
that we start off nice and learn to be nasty
890
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:10,130
Instead of the received wisdom
that we start off nasty and learn to be nice
891
01:21:10,670 --> 01:21:18,770
Ergo, good, or ultimate niceness,
has its root in nature. Or rather human nature
892
01:21:19,230 --> 01:21:22,400
Or rather human nature
from when it separated from animal nature...
893
01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:26,950
...which is actually a problem
for people like me who can't see the join
894
01:21:28,610 --> 01:21:32,970
Does H.J. Matthews think it happened
in earthquake, wind and fire?
895
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,970
- Feel free, Spike
- And, by the way...
896
01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:41,660
Figure 3, showing an orderly transition
from niceness to nastiness...
897
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:47,170
...gives off, if you don't mind me saying so,
a distinct whiff of week-old fish
898
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:48,610
- Excuse me?
- Spike
899
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:50,080
I'm going to get the coffee
900
01:21:50,590 --> 01:21:54,610
- Don't imagine for a moment you're staying the night
- I didn't like the sound of that
901
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:59,840
- I suppose a fuck is out of...
- Hey!
902
01:22:00,170 --> 01:22:01,760
I don't think you should drink any more
903
01:22:02,090 --> 01:22:08,040
Sorry, have I given offence?
Last thing on my mind. Sorry. Terribly sorry
904
01:22:13,260 --> 01:22:16,630
I don't suppose... No
905
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:19,520
- I think you should eat something
- Is that your best offer?
906
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,970
To be fair to Spike, I actually understood
your paper, the way he explained it
907
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:34,440
I'm going to read it again.
I never got to the end
908
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:36,740
- I'm going to have a cigarette
- Nice one
909
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,020
Have I missed something?
910
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,340
- Ah, coffee. Can I help?
- No
911
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,270
I've been trying to imagine
everyone I work with as eight-year-olds
912
01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:52,850
- Really, why?
- Trying to imagine them as nice little boys and girls
913
01:22:54,220 --> 01:22:58,270
The thing about the market is, it consists
entirely of transactions between egoists
914
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,650
An altruistic trader, salesman, broker, customer...
915
01:23:03,530 --> 01:23:05,920
I mean, forget black swans,
we're talking African polar bears
916
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:07,750
So?
917
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,870
I just can't imagine them
sharing their toffees with each other
918
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:18,920
I did. Opal Fruits...
Opal Fruits are the Ultimate Goods of confectionary
919
01:23:19,470 --> 01:23:21,380
- Where's Bo?
- Went outside for a smoke
920
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:22,580
She doesn't have to do that
921
01:23:24,750 --> 01:23:28,190
Julia is the Opal Fruit of Pilates
922
01:23:29,310 --> 01:23:30,360
Could you pour the coffee for me?
923
01:23:34,510 --> 01:23:35,600
- Are you all right, Hilly?
- Yes
924
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,720
Guess what? I burnt her cake, too
925
01:24:01,810 --> 01:24:03,550
You'd never have guessed
it's my first dinner party
926
01:24:05,470 --> 01:24:07,920
- Are you crying?
- Fireworks make me cry
927
01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:10,610
it doesn't matter about the dinner
928
01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:24,410
- ls Spike your boyfriend?
- I hope not
929
01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:31,500
- Why is he being like that?
- Because he is like that
930
01:24:33,250 --> 01:24:34,550
We never agree about anything
931
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,380
You don't seem to care what he said...
about the paper
932
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,050
I don't. He said a lot more before you turned up.
I'm used to Spike
933
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,300
- What sort of lot more?
- The same sort
934
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,360
But I went through the data, and the paper is solid.
Don't lose confidence, Bo
935
01:24:51,870 --> 01:24:55,740
I wish it wasn't published! I didn't do it
for it to be in some journal where anyone can...
936
01:24:56,090 --> 01:25:01,460
That's silly. Publication is how you get on. Sometimes
it gets to be a rough-house, but that's part of the game
937
01:25:01,870 --> 01:25:05,200
- I think I may have done something bad
- Like what?
938
01:25:09,250 --> 01:25:11,520
There were ninety-six children to start with
939
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:19,390
Well... okay.
But you went with eighty-eight, right?
940
01:25:19,730 --> 01:25:22,240
- Eighty-eight participated
- No, they all did
941
01:25:26,590 --> 01:25:31,170
But wait...
they all ninety-six participated?
942
01:25:33,170 --> 01:25:37,390
And eight kids couldn't stay the course, so you
crunched the data for the rest. Is that right?
943
01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:40,860
- No, I did the math across all ninety-six
- And then what?
944
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:43,740
Then I eliminated eight kids,
and did the math again
945
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,440
- Then what?
- Then I showed you. When you got back from Italy
946
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,280
How did you choose the ones you eliminated?
Was it random?
947
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,600
Shit. You took out two from each group
who were spoiling your result
948
01:26:03,190 --> 01:26:05,190
- They were freak results!
- They were outliers, Bo
949
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:08,800
That's what random does, that's why experiments
tend not to come out with every hair in place
950
01:26:10,110 --> 01:26:13,120
Why did you do it?
How can you be so stupid?
951
01:26:14,260 --> 01:26:15,490
- How can you?
- Bo...
952
01:26:16,140 --> 01:26:18,530
I wanted to give you what would please you
953
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:34,380
Yes.
But ultimately, you wanted what you wanted, Bo
954
01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:44,300
- It's my fault. I missed it
- I'm sorry
955
01:26:51,010 --> 01:26:55,750
I'm good.
I've been sitting on my hands for a year...
956
01:26:56,690 --> 01:27:01,940
...watching the market bet on water flowing uphill
and flying pigs farting Chanel No 5
957
01:27:04,330 --> 01:27:11,570
I have to hold my mouth straight to shop
laughing, because I'm the official arsehole
958
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,630
And it's all starting to look good for Amal
959
01:27:17,230 --> 01:27:24,390
I don't trade. I don't pitch. I work on the computer
models which are supposed to manage risk
960
01:27:25,780 --> 01:27:31,220
In theory, the market is a stream of rational acts
by self-interested people...
961
01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:34,030
...so risk ought to be computable
962
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:42,000
So long as the market is correcting itself,
the models look as if they're working
963
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:47,960
And they can be proved mathematically
to crash about once in the lifetime of the universe
964
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:58,300
But every now and then,
the market's behaviour becomes irrational
965
01:28:00,170 --> 01:28:05,170
As though it's gone mad, or fallen in love.
it doesn't compute. It's only computers compute
966
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,460
So I'm thinking about that
967
01:29:16,170 --> 01:29:17,430
Did you think of keeping quiet?
968
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,940
- No
- Did she?
969
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,050
- I'm very, very sorry, Leo
- I'm sorry, too
970
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,130
The data sheets for ninety-six test subjects
971
01:29:34,050 --> 01:29:37,830
It took me a while to work it out. You can't get there
by taking out two from each group
972
01:29:38,670 --> 01:29:40,960
With group one, the youngest kids...
973
01:29:41,620 --> 01:29:47,570
...you have to eliminate the three
at the high end for egoism, selfish little bastards
974
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:51,280
With group four, the oldest kids...
975
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:58,430
...you eliminate the one at the high end
for altruism, annoying little Mother Teresa
976
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:01,580
With the two middle groups...
977
01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:05,630
you have to eliminate from both ends
and further in, or the curve goes back on itself
978
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:17,910
Start with Bo, then. I'll talk her down,
she can have some paid leave, but she's toast
979
01:30:19,250 --> 01:30:23,750
- I'm the principal investigator
- That's a title, not a fact. Necessarily
980
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,820
- You were in Italy for nearly three weeks
- What are you talking about? It's my paper
981
01:30:27,450 --> 01:30:30,620
- Bo is first author
- And I'm senior author. I'm mentoring her
982
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:36,610
She's one year in, and I gave her first author as
a gesture because she works hard, and I like her
983
01:30:37,060 --> 01:30:41,320
- I wanted to encourage her, but it's my paper
- it was her show, though, wasn't it?
984
01:30:41,620 --> 01:30:47,110
No, it's mine. She contributed, she did
a decent job caretaking but it was all ready to go
985
01:30:47,860 --> 01:30:51,640
There isn't a line in the paper which didn't
come across my desk. I wrote the paper
986
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:57,210
- So which of you took out eight...
- I did. I cleared it
987
01:30:57,940 --> 01:31:00,970
After she...
What's the difference?
988
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:05,730
What we're discussing here is Bo,
and whether you're going to drag down with me...
989
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:10,290
...a beginner who took a big pay-cut to work here,
and had nothing in the paper I didn't sign off on
990
01:31:11,270 --> 01:31:15,390
She was milking the family buffalo when she was eight,
and she's the best mathematician in the house
991
01:31:15,770 --> 01:31:17,830
Do you want to lose her?
She can survive this
992
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:28,300
Why? Why are you wasting my time
with this fan-dance? Are you in love with her?
993
01:31:32,750 --> 01:31:34,300
She's in love with me
994
01:31:37,500 --> 01:31:41,320
Well. Finally, something I understand
995
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:47,790
- All fight
- All right what?
996
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,200
- All fight
- Thank you
997
01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:51,830
- She gets a formal warning
- Thank you
998
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:52,960
- All fight
- Thank...
999
01:31:53,300 --> 01:31:57,570
- Stop saying that. It's you I don't want to lose
- I'm going back to school
1000
01:31:58,670 --> 01:32:03,350
- What does that mean?
- I want to do a degree course. Philosophy
1001
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:07,740
Don't get ahead of yourself, Hilly.
There's some wiggle room here
1002
01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:11,100
I'm retracting a paper from a major journal
with the Krohl Institute's name on it
1003
01:32:11,380 --> 01:32:14,400
A correction, not a retraction.
An addendum, not a correction
1004
01:32:15,130 --> 01:32:20,280
You're not seeing straight, Leo. I'm packing.
Watch your own back, is my advice
1005
01:32:25,060 --> 01:32:27,710
- Jerry said the paper was wrong
- He read it?
1006
01:32:28,830 --> 01:32:33,020
It pissed him off that his daughters group
scored low on nice, and high on not so nice
1007
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:38,790
He said Cathy was the nicest person in his family
1008
01:32:39,380 --> 01:32:42,570
You'd think Jerry would approve
of a bit of egoism in his genes
1009
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:45,520
His genes don't come into it.
Cathy's adopted
1010
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:55,040
- Since when?
- Since when? She's twelve, I think
1011
01:32:56,950 --> 01:33:01,440
- Does she know?
- Jerry's wife is Japanese, so... probably
1012
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:06,320
Do you know Catherine's birthday?
1013
01:33:06,980 --> 01:33:10,150
I'd like to tell him his daughter
was eliminated for being too nice
1014
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:13,160
But with the data sheets being coded,
and the questionnaires shredded...
1015
01:33:13,330 --> 01:33:15,070
- We don't shred them now
- You don't?
1016
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,120
She's thirteen
1017
01:33:16,220 --> 01:33:16,850
Why not?
1018
01:33:20,590 --> 01:33:22,250
Leave the data sheets.
I'll cross-reference
1019
01:33:32,140 --> 01:33:33,410
I'll wait to call Jerry
1020
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,270
Listen, I'm going to have to write you
a formal letter. Transparency
1021
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:44,580
It's a damnable thing,
and I'm sorry about it
1022
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,470
- I can't tell you how sorry
- Thank you
1023
01:34:24,170 --> 01:34:26,190
Thank you
1024
01:34:47,470 --> 01:34:49,910
Billy, I got your pitch,
but with the greatest respect, you assholes...
1025
01:34:50,190 --> 01:34:54,250
...if you haven't got the liquidity to pay your debts,
why would I want to own your loan book?
1026
01:34:57,170 --> 01:34:58,350
- Sony
- ls something happening?
1027
01:34:59,030 --> 01:35:02,960
Reality. Reality so far out on the distribution curve,
it wasn't supposed to be possible
1028
01:35:05,810 --> 01:35:08,220
But that's where Cathy was, too, an outlier
1029
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,610
Do you think it's nature or nurture
that's responsible for Cathy?
1030
01:35:13,190 --> 01:35:17,860
You brought her up. ls altruistic behaviour
a big thing with you and Mrs Krohl?
1031
01:35:19,330 --> 01:35:23,040
- Well, if philanthropy counts for anything...
- I'd need to test you for ultimate motivation
1032
01:35:24,780 --> 01:35:28,180
On the other hand, you doing your best
to bring Leo's department down around his ears...
1033
01:35:28,490 --> 01:35:31,750
...sounds more like egoism to me
- It was irrational
1034
01:35:34,490 --> 01:35:37,630
Guten tag, Hans...
Shop, talk slower
1035
01:35:40,530 --> 01:35:45,650
I'm sorry, that is tough. I can't trade it on, Hans,
there's no one taking the other side of the trade
1036
01:35:47,890 --> 01:35:48,650
Yeah, good luck
1037
01:35:51,220 --> 01:35:55,990
Charlie...
Eat it. Eat it, or default. Let me know
1038
01:35:57,250 --> 01:35:58,270
What is happening?
1039
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,370
- A fire sale
- Why?
1040
01:36:01,050 --> 01:36:04,550
Well, a lot of people were selling fire insurance
on a house that was burning
1041
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:09,690
- But not you?
- No. I was buying it
1042
01:36:13,110 --> 01:36:17,620
Cathy and I are going to the country.
Would you like to come out to the car?
1043
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:23,350
I don't think so. Thanks
1044
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:28,440
Did I thank you for keeping her name?
I meant to, in my letter
1045
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,650
You did. Mika liked the name.
She said to say, you'd be welcome to visit
1046
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,020
That's very kind.
Perhaps when I'm back
1047
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:37,830
- From where?
- NYU, I hope
1048
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:41,880
- You'll be in New York for...?
- Three years, anyway
1049
01:36:44,020 --> 01:36:48,990
There's someone teaching philosophy there
whose ideas are... undemonstrable
1050
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:58,020
- Are you sure?
- Yes, I'm sure
1051
01:36:59,580 --> 01:37:04,070
Thank you.
Philosophy? Well, serves you right
1052
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,720
We didn't make a drama out of adoption
and she hasn't made a drama out of it
1053
01:37:11,190 --> 01:37:15,270
But if she asks, of course we'll tell her
what we know, and then it's up to her
1054
01:37:15,490 --> 01:37:16,130
Yes, that's best
1055
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,400
- If you change your mind...
- I'll try not to
1056
01:37:22,410 --> 01:37:25,380
The very last thing I imagined
was that Catherine was a rich kid
1057
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,020
Well, what would you rather?
She's hit an awkward age
1058
01:37:29,450 --> 01:37:32,580
- I mean, she's normal, don't imagine she's a saint
- I don't
1059
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:39,010
- So. Have you got any money?
- How much do you need?
1060
01:37:43,540 --> 01:37:46,930
I'm fine. I am so fine
1061
01:37:48,190 --> 01:37:52,710
I've been carrying my own weather all these years.
It's like the first day of spring
1062
01:37:56,690 --> 01:38:03,850
- You know it's a miracle, don't you?
- A miracle? No. A long shot. A coincidence
1063
01:38:04,130 --> 01:38:08,240
I don't believe in miracles. As a matter of fact,
I don't believe in coincidence either
1064
01:38:08,500 --> 01:38:10,090
You didn't have the information
1065
01:38:10,500 --> 01:38:14,010
- Dad, I am so bored waiting
- Perfect. This is Dr Matthews
1066
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:15,940
- I know. Hi
- We're going
1067
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:17,870
- How are you, Cathy?
- I'm good
1068
01:38:18,110 --> 01:38:18,930
We're gone. Good-bye
1069
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:22,520
Hey, David...
1070
01:38:22,810 --> 01:38:23,750
- Bye
- Good bye
1071
01:38:24,210 --> 01:38:25,920
Sorry to hear that...
a one chance in a million event...
1072
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:27,830
A trillion? Really?
1073
01:38:29,220 --> 01:38:33,460
If your model was telling you the market was going
to do this once every four billion years, David...
1074
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:37,290
...there's probably something wrong with your...
Yeah...
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