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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,966 we just wrapped the interview with Kyle 2 00:00:03,166 --> 00:00:03,933 and actually 3 00:00:03,933 --> 00:00:06,566 the ambient light levels have changed a little bit 4 00:00:06,766 --> 00:00:09,000 we were fine for the entire interview 5 00:00:09,066 --> 00:00:11,533 but I do wanna talk to you about how Greg and I 6 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:14,266 set everything up and the decisions that we made 7 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:16,966 so even though this seems minor 8 00:00:16,966 --> 00:00:18,733 this is sort of one big change 9 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:21,200 which was when Kyle came in to stand in 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,500 we were standing in sort of you know 11 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:24,800 I'm on the apple box 12 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,966 Ben was in here 13 00:00:25,966 --> 00:00:27,133 Greg was in here 14 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:28,166 but when Kyle passed 15 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:29,600 we had him stand here 16 00:00:29,766 --> 00:00:30,266 and he said 17 00:00:30,266 --> 00:00:32,966 you know we usually have a barrel in the brewery 18 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:34,166 it's kind of a thing 19 00:00:34,166 --> 00:00:36,000 would it be cool if I had 20 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:37,766 you know my beer on here 21 00:00:37,766 --> 00:00:39,200 and I love the idea 22 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,166 so that got rolled in 23 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:42,466 we have that on 24 00:00:42,733 --> 00:00:46,133 basically the equivalent of two full apple boxes 25 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:48,066 we got a couple of halfs in the full 26 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:49,100 and we have that up here 27 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:50,600 that gives us a little bit of height 28 00:00:50,766 --> 00:00:53,166 um we knew the beer was gonna be here 29 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:55,933 and then I was talking it out with him and Jack 30 00:00:55,933 --> 00:00:58,800 and they mentioned the growler why not 31 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,166 so growler gets set here 32 00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:02,933 so we have a little bit of production design 33 00:01:02,933 --> 00:01:04,000 and that's also important 34 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,100 is something that people forget you know 35 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:08,666 even in a small project 36 00:01:08,733 --> 00:01:11,100 you need to think about the entire set 37 00:01:11,366 --> 00:01:14,866 and so this was just sort of an addition to something 38 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:16,666 you didn't see earlier on 39 00:01:16,866 --> 00:01:18,133 now from a key standpoint 40 00:01:18,133 --> 00:01:19,900 I'm actually gonna have Greg come in 41 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:22,700 we have that Q1000 from Felix 42 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,766 which is sort of a harder frenelled light source 43 00:01:25,766 --> 00:01:28,533 that we have bouncing into a 4 by 4 frame 44 00:01:28,533 --> 00:01:31,400 into the DP kit off of white um 45 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,866 let's audition that on and off 46 00:01:32,866 --> 00:01:34,300 just so that people can see it and again 47 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:36,400 the ambient light levels have changed a little 48 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,300 but the key is basically doing 49 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:40,066 if I was looking camera left 50 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:41,266 what we wanted to do 51 00:01:41,266 --> 00:01:42,533 so we're just gonna turn that off 52 00:01:42,533 --> 00:01:43,766 going off yep 53 00:01:44,533 --> 00:01:46,566 and let's go ahead and bring that back up 54 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,266 back up good okay 55 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:49,566 that's our key light 56 00:01:49,566 --> 00:01:50,466 and it's working 57 00:01:50,466 --> 00:01:52,800 and it's creating a nice soft source 58 00:01:52,966 --> 00:01:56,500 and the whole goal here is natural 59 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:59,366 we don't wanna make it feel like it's lit 60 00:01:59,533 --> 00:02:02,366 we just wanna make it feel like we have natural light 61 00:02:02,366 --> 00:02:04,200 coming into the space yeah 62 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,466 we did some negative fill behind 63 00:02:06,466 --> 00:02:08,800 and we actually brought in a small white fill card 64 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,700 just to give you a little bit back right 65 00:02:10,700 --> 00:02:12,500 um so to keep the sunlight from 66 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,166 anything that was coming in on the left side of frame 67 00:02:15,166 --> 00:02:16,566 and then but then also 68 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:18,533 fill back in from our key source yeah 69 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:21,200 so it's kind of doing two jobs here 70 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,333 this 4 by 4 71 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:23,500 it is doing two jobs 72 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:24,666 it's blocking the light 73 00:02:24,666 --> 00:02:26,466 or the light that we had earlier on 74 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:28,500 coming in through that skylight right 75 00:02:28,566 --> 00:02:30,800 and it is creating a little negative fill 76 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,433 by the nature of it 77 00:02:32,733 --> 00:02:33,966 but then we felt 78 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:37,100 that we wanted to get a little bit more light 79 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:39,533 you often see that when you're shooting interviews 80 00:02:39,533 --> 00:02:41,600 and you're doing a setup like this 81 00:02:41,666 --> 00:02:43,600 sometimes you'll find that there's this little 82 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,566 dark part right here 83 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:48,600 and Kyle had a little bit of that going on 84 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,366 he was also wearing glasses 85 00:02:50,366 --> 00:02:53,500 so we brought this in to just give a little fill 86 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:54,333 and let's take a look 87 00:02:54,333 --> 00:02:56,200 at what it looks like when it's out 88 00:02:57,866 --> 00:03:00,266 okay and then we bring it in again 89 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:02,200 and you can just see how that's 90 00:03:02,333 --> 00:03:04,066 poking in there a little bit 91 00:03:04,066 --> 00:03:06,200 some people don't need that at all 92 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,566 we might wanna fill 93 00:03:07,566 --> 00:03:10,300 but we don't necessarily need it for that job 94 00:03:10,366 --> 00:03:12,966 but it just helps get into that little place 95 00:03:12,966 --> 00:03:15,300 and I think that that's really important to look out 96 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:16,566 for when you're shooting 97 00:03:16,566 --> 00:03:18,866 there have been many times in history 98 00:03:18,866 --> 00:03:21,500 that I've regretted not setting up that little fill 99 00:03:21,533 --> 00:03:23,500 and then I look in there and it just seems 100 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:26,600 really dark in that little spot on the fill side 101 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:27,566 um of course 102 00:03:27,566 --> 00:03:30,900 our a and B cameras are shooting into the fill sides 103 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:32,100 they're not on the key side 104 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:33,866 cause we don't want things to look flat 105 00:03:33,866 --> 00:03:35,866 we already talked about that a little bit 106 00:03:35,866 --> 00:03:37,333 I'm looking camera left 107 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:38,800 we have an a camera there 108 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,966 and that's our setup 109 00:03:39,966 --> 00:03:42,100 and so I will be looking to Abby 110 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:43,733 who was conducting the interview 111 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:46,066 she was standing on the stairway over there 112 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:48,533 and then we have our B camera 113 00:03:48,533 --> 00:03:50,766 also on the Phil side 114 00:03:50,766 --> 00:03:52,066 and that's going in 115 00:03:52,066 --> 00:03:54,400 and we have it on just a slightly different angle 116 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,000 a tighter shot for this particular interview 117 00:03:57,166 --> 00:03:59,566 and we're looking into all of this and again 118 00:03:59,566 --> 00:04:01,733 ambient light levels have changed a little bit 119 00:04:01,733 --> 00:04:03,200 but it's a really nice shot 120 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,366 and you can see it from the interview footage 121 00:04:05,366 --> 00:04:07,833 and you can see what that camera is doing 122 00:04:07,966 --> 00:04:09,866 we shot it at a NEF 4 123 00:04:09,866 --> 00:04:11,300 that's what we settled on 124 00:04:11,466 --> 00:04:13,533 we also did a little bit of adjustment 125 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:15,500 we moved that key in just a little bit 126 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:16,933 so we could bring our ISO 127 00:04:16,933 --> 00:04:18,633 down a little bit on the camera 128 00:04:18,866 --> 00:04:23,400 and I tend to lean towards overexposing a little bit 129 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,700 one shooting log 130 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:26,600 because I find that when we get into post 131 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,266 and we start to adjust that exposure 132 00:04:29,266 --> 00:04:31,733 that if you underexpose it 133 00:04:31,733 --> 00:04:33,766 especially on the Cinema EOS cameras 134 00:04:33,766 --> 00:04:36,466 you tend to see noise introduced in the shadows 135 00:04:36,566 --> 00:04:39,466 so we'll definitely lift that up a little bit 136 00:04:39,466 --> 00:04:43,066 and the end result is we're pushing the mids 137 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,266 especially the shadows down 138 00:04:45,266 --> 00:04:46,566 and that's what we wanna do 139 00:04:46,566 --> 00:04:49,133 if we lift too much the image 140 00:04:49,133 --> 00:04:51,500 then we're gonna see a lot of noise in the shadows 141 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,600 I don't like that 142 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,333 so just a couple of other things 143 00:04:54,333 --> 00:04:56,166 I've got my mic here 144 00:04:56,166 --> 00:04:58,766 it's coming off of a stand 145 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,366 and the way Kyle 146 00:05:01,366 --> 00:05:02,266 was positioned 147 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:04,133 we were basically positioning it 148 00:05:04,133 --> 00:05:07,166 so we were recording in the lobe 149 00:05:07,466 --> 00:05:08,700 not the axis of the mic 150 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:10,133 so if you moved around a little bit 151 00:05:10,133 --> 00:05:11,966 we wouldn't have a drop in sound levels 152 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:13,866 that's really important when you have small cruise 153 00:05:13,866 --> 00:05:15,133 and you don't have a sound recorder 154 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:17,166 so you've got to think about where it is 155 00:05:17,166 --> 00:05:19,066 if you put the axis of the mic 156 00:05:19,066 --> 00:05:20,933 pointed right at the person's mouth 157 00:05:20,933 --> 00:05:22,400 when they turn right or left 158 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,966 they're gonna go off axis 159 00:05:24,133 --> 00:05:25,900 and then the recording levels are gonna dip 160 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:28,366 and then come back up and dip and then come back up 161 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:29,600 but if you use the lobe 162 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,600 which is broader 163 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,666 pointed around here 164 00:05:31,666 --> 00:05:32,700 or down here 165 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:34,133 then when they move around 166 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:36,033 they're inside of the lobe 167 00:05:36,066 --> 00:05:37,400 and you're gonna be 168 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,166 getting more consistent recording levels 169 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:40,466 so just another little tip 170 00:05:40,466 --> 00:05:42,200 even though it's not lighting related 171 00:05:42,966 --> 00:05:45,600 back there we have the Maverick 172 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,400 the remote phosphor light 173 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,200 it has a 50 174 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,766 6 hundred k phosphor panel in it 175 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:53,400 and I'm just gonna have Greg turn that off or just 176 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,566 you know pan it 177 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,133 and we can see the difference 178 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,100 and let's bring that back in 179 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,366 and you can see it gives a little bit of a lift here 180 00:06:00,366 --> 00:06:02,300 it's gonna give a little bit of 181 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:03,900 you know separation 182 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:05,200 we don't always need that 183 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,866 but it worked well for this 184 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:08,200 and I'm just gonna have you dim it 185 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,333 and then bring it back up 186 00:06:09,333 --> 00:06:09,933 and we can see 187 00:06:09,933 --> 00:06:11,033 what happens 188 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:12,166 keep it in position 189 00:06:12,166 --> 00:06:14,033 and let's just bring it up a little bit 190 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:16,100 and I'm not looking at the frame right now 191 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,366 but I just wanna bring it up enough 192 00:06:18,366 --> 00:06:19,966 that it's doing a little bit 193 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:21,500 but I don't wanna feel 194 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:22,600 like it's lit 195 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,666 and that's for me 196 00:06:23,666 --> 00:06:24,533 the goal at least 197 00:06:24,533 --> 00:06:26,266 for this particular setup 198 00:06:26,266 --> 00:06:27,366 and what we're doing 199 00:06:27,733 --> 00:06:30,133 because of the time of day that we have now 200 00:06:30,133 --> 00:06:32,766 as opposed to when we shot it with Kyle 201 00:06:33,266 --> 00:06:36,000 if I was doing the interview at this time 202 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,900 I think that Greg 203 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:39,066 and I would have set up a background light 204 00:06:39,166 --> 00:06:41,666 to do some of what was happening naturally 205 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:43,800 when we shot the interview with Kyle 206 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:46,133 and that would have been probably a broad source 207 00:06:46,133 --> 00:06:48,766 sometimes we like spotty sources in certain spaces 208 00:06:48,766 --> 00:06:49,833 and harder light 209 00:06:49,966 --> 00:06:52,933 but just something to create more of the highlights 210 00:06:52,933 --> 00:06:54,966 and things that were going on in the space 211 00:06:54,966 --> 00:06:57,100 we might have bounced it off of a big 212 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,500 silver 4 by 4 213 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:01,166 which we've done really nice things in this space 214 00:07:01,266 --> 00:07:02,533 or maybe just directly 215 00:07:02,533 --> 00:07:04,500 depending on the light source that we use 216 00:07:04,566 --> 00:07:06,166 but this is what we wound up with 217 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:06,533 and I think 218 00:07:06,533 --> 00:07:08,200 if you take a look at the interview footage 219 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,800 you'll see it look good 15635

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