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[Hugh Hefner] The year was 1968
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and America was still reeling
from three major assassinations
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and an ongoing war in Vietnam.
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I just sit here every day
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Wondering what you have to say
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But Playboy was keeping up
with the tumultuous times...
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running articles about politics...
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race...
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and social justice.
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Soon the magazine was
earning a reputation
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as the voice of the
young, progressive movement
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that was sweeping the country.
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[Jason Buhrmester] Hef did a
great job of evolving the magazine
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from the '50s suit, dinner jacket,
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cocktail version of Playboy
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to the '60s Summer of
Love version of Playboy.
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He was always ready
to adapt the magazine
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to what was going on in culture.
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Most of the time he was
already very far ahead
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of where the culture was going.
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[Hugh Hefner] As we evolved...
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readership continued to boom.
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And by the end of the 1960s,
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one in four college men
subscribed to Playboy.
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But just because the
magazine had matured
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didn't mean we took
ourselves too seriously.
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My new TV show, Playboy After Dark,
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showed that, at the end of the day,
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we were still about having fun.
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[announcer] Playpen After
Dark! with your host...
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[Hugh Hefner] In its first
year, the show was popular enough
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to be spoofed by Johnny Carson.
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[Johnny Carson] Each
week I'm here on the show
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to kinda break down ancient
sex beliefs, you know,
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combat puritan morality and
get my hands on some good stuff.
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[Hugh Hefner] Between filming
Playboy After Dark in L.A.
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and traveling around the world
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to meet with Playboy Club
managers and magazine editors,
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I was always in the air
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and barely spending any
time in my Chicago home.
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So I decided it was time to
bring the Playboy mansion...
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to the skies.
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[woman]
Every little movement
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Every little thing you do
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Is it sleight of hand
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That commands my heart to love you?
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Every little movement
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Every little movement
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[Hugh Hefner] In the spring of 1968,
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I tasked my executive
assistant, Dick Rosenzweig,
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with an ambitious project.
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[Dick Rosenzweig] Hef came to me one day
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and he said he needed
a private aircraft.
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And he wanted a very special one.
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He said the plane should
be painted black...
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because there is no other
black plane out there,
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and we'll put a white bunny on the tail.
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I love it.
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I got a song that
ain't got no melody
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[Hugh Hefner] It was a status
symbol just to fly private,
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but I wanted to take it a step further,
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so I took a commercial airliner,
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gutted it,
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and retrofitted it in a
style that was pure Playboy.
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Will it go 'round in circles?
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Will it fly high like
a bird up in the sky?
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[Hugh Hefner] Before
long my jet became known
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as the Big Bunny.
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If Hugh Hefner can afford a
personalized airplane like this,
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his money must multiply like bunnies.
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I got a story that
ain't got no moral
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[Hugh Hefner] That plane cost
five and a half million dollars...
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over 38 million dollars today,
and it was worth every penny.
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We have a series of buttons here
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that can control the polarized windows.
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It can go all the way from
light to grey to total blackness.
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It can seat 38, sleep 16.
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And has additional gas facility
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so that it can go anyplace in the world.
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[Hugh Hefner] The Big
Bunny had a luxury bedroom,
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shower,
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a TV and movie theater,
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and of course a dance floor.
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[announcer] Constantly
surrounded by gorgeous girls
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and beautiful belongings,
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Hefner's world may
seem enviable to some.
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At 44 he's unquestionably king rabbit
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and certainly he takes every
opportunity to enjoy his dough.
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The Big Bunny, it was an experience.
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It was like a house with wings.
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I remember the first time
our crew flew with Hef.
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He saw our luggage and he
didn't like the way it looked.
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So he went and bought everybody luggage.
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"If you're gonna fly with me,
you're gonna have good luggage."
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[Hugh Hefner] My every
need was taken care of...
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by our jet bunnies.
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Jet bunnies did not wear
the traditional bunny outfit.
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They wore black mini
dresses, scarves and boots,
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very much modeled after the Bond girls
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that were so popular at the time.
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[Hugh Hefner] The Big Bunny
became a media sensation.
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It is the only way to fly.
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[Don Rickles] Really?!
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Who cares?
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These are all people
who work at the A&P.
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[Hugh Hefner] But I had no idea
that the next time I flew to L.A.
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my life would change forever.
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[man] It's in five minutes.
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Thanks for coming to the set.
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What do you think?
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I like it.
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I'm not so sure about
the furniture in front.
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We've got an orange sofa
down in the back there,
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I know you love that color.
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Okay, great.
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And I think we should use
the red carpet in the back.
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[Hugh Hefner] Every week
on Playboy After Dark,
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we packed the soundstage
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with great-looking models and extras.
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Well, if you're happy, let me
take you through to make-up.
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One day, one of them
captured my full attention.
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[Hugh Hefner] I bought the plane.
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I'd already committed to
doing Playboy After Dark.
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I was preparing to live a new
adventure and a new experience
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in a new time frame, or
a new chapter in my life.
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And there she was.
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[Hugh Hefner] That wholesome
beauty was Barbara Klein,
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who would soon come to
be known as Barbi Benton.
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[Barbi Benton] I met Hef on
the set of Playboy After Dark,
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and he asked me if I would, uh,
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like to go out with him that night.
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How about we go out
for a drink after this?
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You and me?
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And I said, "I don't know.
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I've never been out
with anybody over 24."
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And he said, "Neither have I."
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Ba da ba ba ba ba
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Ba ba ba ba ba
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Baa, la la ba ba ba
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I remember Sunday morning
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[Hugh Hefner] Barbi had been attending
UCLA to become a veterinarian,
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but when she realized
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she couldn't stand the sight of blood,
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she quickly gave up the career.
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She began modeling part-time,
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acted in a few small commercials
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and then took a job as an
extra on Playboy After Dark.
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I'd been with my fair share of women,
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but from the moment I met Barbi,
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I knew she was different.
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I remember Sunday morning
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I would meet him at the park
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Hef is the most romantic
person that I've ever been with.
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And he put me on a
pedestal and worshipped me.
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I hadn't been around anybody
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who was that affectionate
and wanted me so badly.
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I mean just to be with me.
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To sit next to me and hold my hand.
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He was just so excited.
He was like a little boy.
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Sunday will never be the same
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I lost my baby's heart
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I must be back again
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[Richard Rosenzweig] Hef saw her
as the ultimate girl next door,
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and he found her refreshing,
coed-like and a lot of fun.
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And Hefner really fell for her.
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[Hugh Hefner] From that point
on, all my time in Los Angeles
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was spent with Barbi...
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both off-camera and on.
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What kind of color would you be, Barbi?
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Oh, I'd be sexy, I'd be...
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I'd have to be red,
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because it's sexy and
a little bit mysterious.
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Oh, wait a minute. Burnt orange.
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Because that's your favorite color.
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That's my favorite color!
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[Hugh Hefner] She
essentially became my co-host.
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I notice that Sonny and Cher
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are about ready to do a number for us.
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And maybe Barbi would like
to do the introduction.
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[Hugh Hefner] And to
everyone who watched the show,
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our chemistry was impossible to miss.
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[Brett Ratner] Hef's
girlfriend, Barbi Benton.
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I mean, God, Barbi Benton,
I was so in love with her.
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She was just a regular
girl. But she had beauty.
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[Sonny Bono] Simon says,
girls, arms around the boys.
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Simon says, bring your
noses two inches apart.
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Simon says, bring you
noses an inch apart.
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Simon says, closer.
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Simon says, closer.
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Simon says, be creative.
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Simon says, stop, Hef.
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Hef, Simon and Barbara,
please say stop or you'll be...
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Simon says, stop!
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I'm out of the game.
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[Hugh Hefner] With Barbi by my side,
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I became a new man.
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[Barbi Benton] I think
we should go somewhere.
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[Hugh Hefner] Where?
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Yes! What about Europe?
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Europe?
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Yeah!
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I did things with Barbi
that I had never done before
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and I've never done since.
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And I spent a great deal
of my time where she was.
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It was almost as if I was
planning for that relationship
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before I met her.
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It was a wonderful time in my life.
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Africa!
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Where would you like to go in Africa?
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Oh, gosh.
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[Barbi Benton] I think I managed
to bring him out of his shell.
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He was a hermit. He never
got out of his house.
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When I loved you so
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I got him to do things.
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I'm still amazed at the things we did.
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One of the things that I loved
to do with Hef was travel.
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We went to 16 different
countries on one trip.
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It was romantic.
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Everything we did was fun and exciting.
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It's an ill wind
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Hef and I had a lot of
romance in our lives.
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Everywhere we went, it was an adventure.
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... love like I know it should
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And I say it's a good thing
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To love someone
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[Hugh Hefner] Barbi was the most
intensely romantic relationship
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that I think I had ever been in.
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I said publicly that it
was I thought the first time
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I'd really been in love.
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I was having the ultimate
high school courtship
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in my early 40s.
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Ooh, ooh, yeah
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I have some news that
I think a lot of you
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will be happy to hear.
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Starting with the next issue,
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it's time for me to take a step back.
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Now, I'm still going to be approving
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every page of the magazine,
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but this means no more
60-page memos, spec.
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[Hugh Hefner] With the
magazine doing so well
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and Barbi taking up more of my time,
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I finally decided it was time
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to do something I'd always resisted...
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delegate.
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I gave Tajiri, Spectorsky and Kretchmer
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more creative control over the magazine,
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and made Arnie Executive
VP of Playboy Enterprises.
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But I saved one of the
most important assignments
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for Victor Lownes.
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Over the last several years,
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we'd successfully opened 15
Playboy Clubs within the U.S.
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and 3 international locations.
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But if we were going to
become a worldwide phenomenon,
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there was only one place left to go.
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You ought to hear the monkey
when he sings the blues
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Monkey, oh yeah, monkey, oh yeah
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London was home to the swinging '60s,
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an economic boom had
brought average earnings
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almost twice as high
as the cost of living.
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And on top of that,
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it had the youngest population
of any city in the world.
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With 40% of residents
under 25 years old,
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they were all looking to go out,
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spend their money and have fun.
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I knew Victor was the only man
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who could develop the
London Playboy Club,
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so I sent him over to England
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and he wasted no time
setting things in motion.
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[Victor Lownes] London was
really quite a hot place.
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And it seemed like a good move
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and they decided to send
me over to organize it,
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which I did.
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[Marilyn Cole] He'd
never been to Britain,
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but he threw himself into London life.
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When he was researching everything,
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he was taken to clubs where
there were gaming tables.
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[Hugh Hefner] Thanks to
a recent ruling in London,
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Vic had license to take the
club in a whole new direction.
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[Victor Lownes] Gambling
had just become legalized.
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I immediately thought we
ought to get into gambling
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because it seemed like
a very profitable avenue.
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[Marilyn Cole] He
called Hefner and said,
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"Listen, Hef, they are
gambling here in Britain.
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It's legal."
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Because in America,
it was only in Vegas.
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So Victor had this brilliant idea
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of opening Playboy as a casino.
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[Hugh Hefner] After months of work
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and a $2 million investment,
we held our grand opening.
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1,500 guests attended
the black tie affair,
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which was the most
star-studded in our history.
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Sidney Poitier...
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James Garner...
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and even London royalty were there.
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The opening night guest
list is fascinating to me
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because it's such a
great m?lange of people.
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'Cause he had the Duke of Bedford,
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Rudolph Nureyev was there,
the world famous ballet dancer.
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And then of course Roman Polanski.
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Roman and Victor were
very, very close friends.
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[Hugh Hefner] But no Playboy
Club would be complete
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without top-notch entertainment.
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Luckily, Vic knew all
the best performers,
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and we were able to treat our guests
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to a performance from one of the
fastest-rising comedians in America.
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It was very sad and I didn't
know what the button was for.
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And they told me that
if you lose a button,
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you take a button off the inside
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and you sew it onto the
outside, you got a button.
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And, uh, I had the jacket for two weeks
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and, just my luck,
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I lost from the outside of
my jacket, a button hole.
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[laughter]
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[Victor Lownes] When
we opened the club here,
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we were bringing over acts
from America to perform.
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Woody Allen opened the club.
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He's a personal friend and
he lived right next door.
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[Hugh Hefner] Vic was in his
element, and just as I expected,
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he created the perfect venue
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to introduce Playboy to London society.
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I had a girl, she was my queen
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She didn't love me like I loved her
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It was an incredible party
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and the club stayed open 24 hours a day,
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so the celebration
continued well after dawn.
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[Hugh Hefner] What I
saw in London that summer
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was a whole revolution
in social sexual values.
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The entire lifestyle from England
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was about to explode across the world.
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And I came back from that trip
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feeling that I'd seen the future.
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Somebody tell me
what I've done wrong
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[Hugh Hefner] In less than a year,
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the London Playboy Club under
Victor was making more money
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than any casino in Europe or Las Vegas.
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[Dick Rosenzweig] The
London casino was the most
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successful casino in the
world for a number of years.
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It was a huge celebrity hangout.
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When Hollywood came to London,
first stop was the Playboy Club.
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It was a once in a
lifetime club experience.
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[Dick Cavett] The ladies
they had selected in Britain
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to be the British
bunnies were spectacular.
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They were not only
gorgeous, they were witty,
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they were funny, they had
various regional accents
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that were pleasant and fun to hear.
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And they were just great.
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[Hugh Hefner] Of course being the head
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of the most successful club in the world
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had other perks.
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[Marilyn Cole] I first met
Victor when I became a bunny girl.
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And so we were at the Playboy Club
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and a man appeared on the floor.
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We didn't know who it was,
but we knew he was somebody
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just by his vitality and
his looks and his voice,
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it just sounded different.
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And it turned out it was Victor Lownes.
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The boss, so to speak.
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[Hugh Hefner] Victor was constantly
surrounded by beautiful women,
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but soon enough, one particular
bunny stood out among the rest.
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I don't know why
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And you are?
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Marilyn Cole.
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It's my first day here.
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Mmm, I picked up on that.
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But don't worry, you'll do just fine.
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You're a real beauty.
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Some people say I'm too tall.
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Well, those people don't know
what they're talking about.
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Me, on the other hand, I'm an expert.
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And trust me, you're perfect.
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Absolutely perfect.
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Thank you, Mr. Lownes.
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Please call me Victor.
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[giggles]
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I dated Marilyn because
she was drop-dead gorgeous
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when I saw her,
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and she was intelligent and interesting.
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[Hugh Hefner] While Victor
was falling in love in London,
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my relationship with Barbi
was becoming more serious.
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And we were practically inseparable.
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What are you doing up?
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I thought you might like some breakfast.
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Oh, sweetheart, come here.
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Oh, and a flower!
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Yes, I picked that myself.
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- No, you didn't.
- I did.
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I don't believe you for a
second, but you're still sweet.
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Mmm, that's great.
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What's that?
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I don't know.
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[Hugh Hefner] Since Playboy's inception,
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the magazine had never
faced any real competition.
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But that all changed in 1969
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when a publication called Penthouse
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burst onto the scene
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and made it its mission
to take Playboy down
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Things look bad from over here
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[Carrie Pitzulo] When Penthouse came
onto the scene in the late 1960s,
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it really presented a
challenge to Playboy.
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It sought to be a lifestyle magazine.
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It talked about things
like fashion and politics.
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And so Penthouse was taking the formula
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that Playboy had established.
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[announcer] The man who runs it
is 44-year-old Robert Guccione,
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Brooklyn born but a
longtime European resident.
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Penthouse jumped the
Atlantic from England in 1969
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with a promotion aimed
directly at Playboy.
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The Penthouse Pet of the Year
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is Guccione's version of
Hefner's Playmate of the Year.
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Guccione has dreams of an
empire to surpass Hefner's.
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And he's working at getting it.
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Get out of the way
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I ain't got much time
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[Hugh Hefner] But there was
one thing Penthouse offered
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that Playboy never had.
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[Patty Farmer] Penthouse
was showing pubic hair.
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That had always been
the line of demarcation
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that Hef and most men's
magazines would not cross
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in order to avoid the risk
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of obscenity charges by the government.
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But then here came Penthouse.
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[Hugh Hefner] Only six months earlier,
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the U.S. Supreme Court made
a major ruling on obscenity,
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stating that people could
view whatever they wished
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in the privacy of their homes,
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effectively loosening
obscenity standards in America.
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By the early '70s, you
had porn chic magazines
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that were, uh, a lot more
explicit than Playboy ever was.
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And, of course, you had
hardcore pornography films
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running in the neighborhood theaters.
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We've come a long ways, baby.
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[Hugh Hefner] The new
laws gave readers access
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to a whole new world of explicit photos.
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And Penthouse took full advantage.
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[Hugh Hefner] The government came after
me with guns blazing for Mansfield,
448
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but Penthouse shows
bush, and what? Nothing.
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[Arthur Kretchmer]
Times have changed, Hef.
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I wouldn't exactly
call it "showing bush."
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It's just a glimpse of her pubic hair.
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You know what I mean, Kretch.
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You can't find a copy anywhere.
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Is that true?
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It's completely sold out.
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The entire print run
was gone within the week.
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Hef, a reporter from Time just called.
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And?
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They wanted to get your reaction.
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To what?
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To this.
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[David Granger] You know,
it's completely natural
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for the established brand
to be threatened by outsiders
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that are willing to
be much more extreme.
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Just like Esquire was
threatened by Playboy,
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I'm sure Playboy had
to look at Penthouse
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and decide whether or not it
was gonna go as far as Penthouse,
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or whether it was good enough
to sort of stay the course.
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[Hugh Hefner] Even with
the recent court rulings,
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I still believed that our playmates
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didn't need to show
everything to be sexy.
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But Penthouse, riding the
wave of relaxed standards,
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quickly began gaining ground on Playboy.
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They doubled their
circulation from 235,000
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to over half a million in just one year.
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477
00:27:16,829 --> 00:27:20,465
Yellow diamond in the sky
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This was really difficult for Hefner
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because he had spent his life...
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his crusade was mainstreaming
middle class sexuality,
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and so to remove
Playboy from that status
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would have challenged everything
he had worked so hard for.
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Sometimes it seems so heavy
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[Hugh Hefner] Penthouse had
become too big to ignore.
485
00:27:48,327 --> 00:27:53,298
Playboy had started a sexual revolution,
486
00:27:53,299 --> 00:27:56,768
but now we were being left behind.
487
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[Arthur Kretchmer] Although
it is hard to conceive now,
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the idea of the playmate
showing pubic hair
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was a hard hurdle to overcome.
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But the world recognized that
Penthouse was pushing Playboy,
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so he went there.
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Yeah yeah yeah
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[Hugh Hefner] Nine months after
Penthouse changed the game,
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a new, more revealing
Playboy hit the shelves.
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In the first issue of 1971,
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Miss January, Liv Lindeland,
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showed more than any
playmate had before.
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And our readers approved...
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pushing circulation to over
six million issues per month.
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502
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But competition from Penthouse
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wasn't the only opposition
I faced that year.
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[newscaster] The battle cry of
the women's liberation movement
505
00:29:07,306 --> 00:29:09,707
rings out down New York's Fifth Avenue
506
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:12,177
as more than 10,000 militant feminists
507
00:29:12,178 --> 00:29:15,080
stage a one-day strike for equal rights.
508
00:29:15,081 --> 00:29:19,650
Just flew in, yeah
509
00:29:19,651 --> 00:29:22,720
[Carrie Pitzulo] When the women's
movement really comes onto the scene
510
00:29:22,721 --> 00:29:25,356
in the late '60's and early 1970s,
511
00:29:25,357 --> 00:29:27,558
Playboy was a primary target.
512
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,562
Because feminists argued
that the centerfold images
513
00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:35,033
were degrading to
women and objectifying.
514
00:29:35,034 --> 00:29:39,905
And so, they really
criticized Hugh Hefner
515
00:29:39,906 --> 00:29:44,809
as a purveyor of patriarchy and sexism
516
00:29:44,810 --> 00:29:46,244
and the degradation of women.
517
00:29:46,245 --> 00:29:48,579
Your heart's gonna melt ya
518
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:50,982
[Hugh Hefner] Now, there had
always been groups of women
519
00:29:50,983 --> 00:29:52,850
who disliked Playboy.
520
00:29:52,851 --> 00:29:55,420
But back in the early
days of the magazine,
521
00:29:55,421 --> 00:29:58,856
they were mostly
conservative, religious types.
522
00:29:58,857 --> 00:30:00,658
I knew this was different.
523
00:30:00,659 --> 00:30:02,260
Join us now!
524
00:30:02,261 --> 00:30:05,564
Sisterhood is powerful, join us now!
525
00:30:07,866 --> 00:30:12,370
[Hugh Hefner] The 1960s had given
rise to a second wave of feminism.
526
00:30:12,371 --> 00:30:16,307
While their predecessors
had fought for things
527
00:30:16,308 --> 00:30:20,511
like the right to vote,
528
00:30:20,512 --> 00:30:23,982
these women were fighting
for access to birth control,
529
00:30:23,983 --> 00:30:27,552
abortion and equal rights.
530
00:30:27,553 --> 00:30:30,121
It's equal rights to have
a job, to have respect,
531
00:30:30,122 --> 00:30:31,656
to not be viewed as a piece of meat.
532
00:30:31,657 --> 00:30:33,724
We just want what men
have had all these years
533
00:30:33,725 --> 00:30:38,396
Who knows where the time goes
534
00:30:38,397 --> 00:30:41,366
[Hugh Hefner] Led by women
including Betty Friedan...
535
00:30:41,367 --> 00:30:45,103
This will continue as
a political coalition
536
00:30:45,104 --> 00:30:46,871
to achieve the unfinished revolution,
537
00:30:46,872 --> 00:30:49,540
to win the unfinished
revolution of women's equality.
538
00:30:49,541 --> 00:30:51,409
[Hugh Hefner] ... Bella Abzug...
539
00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:55,246
We proclaim that we talk
about free abortion on demand,
540
00:30:55,247 --> 00:30:57,983
we need to have it now!
541
00:30:57,984 --> 00:30:59,450
[Hugh Hefner] ... and Gloria Steinem.
542
00:30:59,451 --> 00:31:02,353
Now, thanks to the spirit
of equality in the air
543
00:31:02,354 --> 00:31:05,690
and to the work of many of
my more foresighted sisters,
544
00:31:05,691 --> 00:31:08,359
I no longer accept society's judgment
545
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,029
that my group is second class.
546
00:31:11,030 --> 00:31:15,134
[Hugh Hefner] Steinem had been a
harsh critic of Playboy for many years.
547
00:31:17,636 --> 00:31:21,672
In 1963, she even went
undercover as a bunny
548
00:31:21,673 --> 00:31:23,408
in our New York club...
549
00:31:23,409 --> 00:31:25,710
giving herself a fake name...
550
00:31:25,711 --> 00:31:29,114
and ultimately writing an
article about her experience
551
00:31:29,115 --> 00:31:31,417
for Show magazine.
552
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,922
[Gloria Steinem] I exposed the
working conditions at the Playboy Club,
553
00:31:37,923 --> 00:31:39,890
which were so horrendous.
554
00:31:39,891 --> 00:31:43,561
If you can only get a job,
you know, in three-inch heels,
555
00:31:43,562 --> 00:31:46,764
falling out of your
costume serving food,
556
00:31:46,765 --> 00:31:48,299
you know, it's not...
557
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:50,235
I mean, men don't have to
fall out of their costumes
558
00:31:50,236 --> 00:31:51,936
to serve food.
559
00:31:51,937 --> 00:31:55,506
[Hugh Hefner] Her article
came out in May of 1963.
560
00:31:55,507 --> 00:32:00,411
Needless to say, I didn't
agree with her evaluation.
561
00:32:00,412 --> 00:32:05,216
She characterized the experience
as extremely degrading.
562
00:32:05,217 --> 00:32:07,385
As extremely objectifying.
563
00:32:07,386 --> 00:32:10,788
That instead of being
an exciting, adventurous,
564
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:14,825
well-paying job for young
women in cities like New York,
565
00:32:14,826 --> 00:32:20,265
she said that this was actually
intense labor, exploitation,
566
00:32:20,266 --> 00:32:22,933
and a really sexist place
567
00:32:22,934 --> 00:32:27,005
that was just using women
further for the benefit of men.
568
00:32:36,315 --> 00:32:39,917
[Hugh Hefner] I hadn't paid much
attention to the article at the time,
569
00:32:39,918 --> 00:32:43,188
but now the feminist
movement had made Playboy
570
00:32:43,189 --> 00:32:47,593
one of its main targets,
and I knew I had to respond.
571
00:32:49,795 --> 00:32:52,330
I truly believed
Playboy and the feminists
572
00:32:52,331 --> 00:32:54,499
were on the same side,
573
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:56,934
and I felt the best
way to explain myself
574
00:32:56,935 --> 00:32:59,737
was to speak with Steinem face to face.
575
00:32:59,738 --> 00:33:02,807
So what men do you admire? And why?
576
00:33:02,808 --> 00:33:06,177
Well, I've always admired
Jack and Robert Kennedy.
577
00:33:06,178 --> 00:33:09,214
How about women? What
women do you admire?
578
00:33:09,215 --> 00:33:10,981
Margaret Mead, very much.
579
00:33:10,982 --> 00:33:15,586
Uh, uh, uh...
580
00:33:15,587 --> 00:33:18,923
I can't remember her name
off the top of my head,
581
00:33:18,924 --> 00:33:21,126
but the head of SIECUS.
582
00:33:21,127 --> 00:33:23,094
Mary Calderone.
583
00:33:23,095 --> 00:33:26,664
Mary Calderone, yes. Very much so.
584
00:33:26,665 --> 00:33:29,467
[Hugh Hefner] The interview
got off to a rough start
585
00:33:29,468 --> 00:33:32,103
and it only went downhill from there.
586
00:33:32,104 --> 00:33:36,374
What I don't understand is why
feminists don't appreciate us,
587
00:33:36,375 --> 00:33:39,110
appreciate the Playboy philosophy.
588
00:33:39,111 --> 00:33:42,380
I never picked them
out as special enemies.
589
00:33:42,381 --> 00:33:44,715
They chose me first.
590
00:33:44,716 --> 00:33:48,219
But don't you understand that
you have made women objects?
591
00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:51,322
It's as if we're put on a meat hook.
592
00:33:51,323 --> 00:33:54,825
And, according to Playboy philosophy,
593
00:33:54,826 --> 00:33:56,827
women are useless with age.
594
00:33:56,828 --> 00:34:00,431
Now, wait a second, now, I'm
all for women's right to vote,
595
00:34:00,432 --> 00:34:02,933
to own property, all of that.
596
00:34:02,934 --> 00:34:08,973
What I'm saying is that I think
women can be attractive to men.
597
00:34:08,974 --> 00:34:11,909
And I think men should
be attractive to women,
598
00:34:11,910 --> 00:34:15,113
but I wouldn't rest their
entire identity on it.
599
00:34:20,419 --> 00:34:22,253
Let's take a different tact.
600
00:34:22,254 --> 00:34:26,257
If you had one thing to say to
the women readers of McCall's,
601
00:34:26,258 --> 00:34:27,758
what would it be?
602
00:34:27,759 --> 00:34:29,560
Buy Playboy.
603
00:34:29,561 --> 00:34:32,062
That's your whole message?
604
00:34:32,063 --> 00:34:33,764
That's it.
605
00:34:33,765 --> 00:34:36,434
All right, thank you very much, Gloria.
606
00:34:36,435 --> 00:34:39,405
Now, if you'll excuse me.
607
00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,812
[Hugh Hefner] Steinem had
recorded our discussion
608
00:34:47,813 --> 00:34:51,816
for the October issue
of McCall's magazine.
609
00:34:51,817 --> 00:34:54,885
And when the issue hit newsstands,
610
00:34:54,886 --> 00:34:57,322
it was clear that I hadn't made my point
611
00:34:57,323 --> 00:34:59,156
as effectively as I thought.
612
00:34:59,157 --> 00:35:02,993
[Arthur Kretchmer] The women's
movement attacking the magazine
613
00:35:02,994 --> 00:35:04,829
certainly caught him up short.
614
00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:08,132
He thought he was doing
a great job for women.
615
00:35:08,133 --> 00:35:10,668
Saying that good girls like sex,
616
00:35:10,669 --> 00:35:14,071
saying that women should have
charge of their own sex lives.
617
00:35:14,072 --> 00:35:20,346
Being in favor of abortion,
placing women in jobs.
618
00:35:22,548 --> 00:35:24,682
[Cooper Hefner] My dad
was carving out a road
619
00:35:24,683 --> 00:35:28,018
for men and women to say we like sex.
620
00:35:28,019 --> 00:35:31,188
And he was doing it from
the male point of view.
621
00:35:31,189 --> 00:35:33,057
Gloria Steinem was saying,
622
00:35:33,058 --> 00:35:35,860
there really aren't a whole
lot of opportunities out there
623
00:35:35,861 --> 00:35:37,962
that allow women to pursue a career
624
00:35:37,963 --> 00:35:41,399
that doesn't involve
objectifying one's self.
625
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,569
And that point was fair
to make. Because it's true.
626
00:35:44,570 --> 00:35:49,340
[Hugh Hefner] While I had tried to
smooth over Playboy's relationship
627
00:35:49,341 --> 00:35:51,175
with the movement,
628
00:35:51,176 --> 00:35:55,313
it seemed I had just
made the situation worse.
629
00:35:55,314 --> 00:36:00,150
But I was determined to prove
that Playboy was not sexist,
630
00:36:00,151 --> 00:36:03,454
so I decided to try again.
631
00:36:03,455 --> 00:36:08,926
And this time, I wanted
to do it in prime time.
632
00:36:08,927 --> 00:36:10,961
633
00:36:10,962 --> 00:36:13,698
[announcer] The Dick Cavett Show!
634
00:36:13,699 --> 00:36:17,335
With Hugh Hefner, Jefferson Airplane...
635
00:36:17,336 --> 00:36:19,069
[Hugh Hefner] At that time,
636
00:36:19,070 --> 00:36:22,273
The Dick Cavett Show had been
on the air for about two years.
637
00:36:22,274 --> 00:36:24,141
They had a huge audience
638
00:36:24,142 --> 00:36:26,344
and Cavett regularly brought on guests
639
00:36:26,345 --> 00:36:27,678
who had something to say.
640
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,080
My next guest has created an empire.
641
00:36:30,081 --> 00:36:32,683
In fact, The London Times said
they always refer to Hefner
642
00:36:32,684 --> 00:36:34,051
as on of the great empire builders
643
00:36:34,052 --> 00:36:36,120
and they said that he
is as well known a symbol
644
00:36:36,121 --> 00:36:37,822
of American life as Coca-Cola.
645
00:36:37,823 --> 00:36:40,558
Will you welcome Mr. Hugh Hefner.
646
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:42,694
[music and applause]
647
00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:46,531
[Hugh Hefner] So when he
asked me to come on his show
648
00:36:46,532 --> 00:36:51,403
with two prominent feminists,
I didn't hesitate for a second.
649
00:36:58,944 --> 00:37:00,110
It looks like a show
650
00:37:00,111 --> 00:37:03,681
that was probably
contrived for controversy.
651
00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:07,385
Will you welcome Susan
Brownmiller and Sally Kempton.
652
00:37:07,386 --> 00:37:10,788
And the show went on from there.
653
00:37:10,789 --> 00:37:12,557
[Susan Brownmiller]
They oppress us as women.
654
00:37:12,558 --> 00:37:16,661
They benefit from oppressing
women, they really do.
655
00:37:16,662 --> 00:37:20,331
Hefner has built an empire
based on oppressing women.
656
00:37:20,332 --> 00:37:22,768
[applause]
657
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:27,071
Have you had this
reaction before tonight?
658
00:37:27,072 --> 00:37:29,474
- Yes. Can I respond just a little bit?
- All right.
659
00:37:29,475 --> 00:37:33,511
I think that women, over
generations and centuries,
660
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:34,879
have indeed been oppressed.
661
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,481
I think there's no question about it.
662
00:37:36,482 --> 00:37:38,416
I think there are still
many areas in society
663
00:37:38,417 --> 00:37:40,551
in which they do not have
equal job opportunity.
664
00:37:40,552 --> 00:37:42,420
But I take issue and separate
665
00:37:42,421 --> 00:37:44,789
in this one rather fundamental area.
666
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:47,658
I think whether you are a male or female
667
00:37:47,659 --> 00:37:50,661
is the beginning of who
you are as a human being.
668
00:37:50,662 --> 00:37:53,030
I think that it's important
669
00:37:53,031 --> 00:37:55,633
and I think that it is
important emotionally
670
00:37:55,634 --> 00:37:56,767
as well as physically.
671
00:37:56,768 --> 00:37:58,168
I think there are differences
672
00:37:58,169 --> 00:37:59,670
and I think there should
continue to be differences.
673
00:37:59,671 --> 00:38:01,305
Would you like to respond, Susan?
674
00:38:01,306 --> 00:38:02,907
I certainly would.
675
00:38:02,908 --> 00:38:04,909
The role that you have selected
for women is degrading to women
676
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:07,144
because you choose to
see women as sex objects,
677
00:38:07,145 --> 00:38:09,279
not as full human beings.
678
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,315
Well, it obviously isn't degrading...
679
00:38:11,316 --> 00:38:12,683
Hold on now. The day that...
680
00:38:12,684 --> 00:38:14,452
It obviously isn't
degrading to a lot of women.
681
00:38:14,453 --> 00:38:16,220
I want to say... I haven't finished.
682
00:38:16,221 --> 00:38:18,489
The day that you are willing to
come out here with a cottontail
683
00:38:18,490 --> 00:38:20,391
attached to your rear end...
684
00:38:20,392 --> 00:38:22,027
[applause]
685
00:38:26,131 --> 00:38:28,298
You make them look like animals, yes.
686
00:38:28,299 --> 00:38:29,667
Women aren't bunnies.
687
00:38:29,668 --> 00:38:31,335
They're not rabbits,
they're human beings.
688
00:38:31,336 --> 00:38:32,970
[applause]
689
00:38:32,971 --> 00:38:36,041
We have to pause. We'll
be back in a moment.
690
00:38:38,009 --> 00:38:41,311
I don't know if Hefner
expected quite as much assault
691
00:38:41,312 --> 00:38:43,948
as he was in for when he came on.
692
00:38:43,949 --> 00:38:45,850
But it made for lively television.
693
00:38:45,851 --> 00:38:47,251
I loved it.
694
00:38:47,252 --> 00:38:52,923
If I could show you,
Robin, girl, you'd know...
695
00:38:52,924 --> 00:38:54,825
[Hugh Hefner] I was starting to realize
696
00:38:54,826 --> 00:38:57,194
this was a conflict
I wasn't going to win.
697
00:38:57,195 --> 00:38:58,730
Hugh Hefner is my enemy.
698
00:39:02,067 --> 00:39:06,437
[Christie Hefner] I do think Hef
was surprised at the harsh critique
699
00:39:06,438 --> 00:39:08,639
in the feminist movement of Playboy.
700
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,141
He felt, quite justifiably,
701
00:39:11,142 --> 00:39:14,079
that he'd been an ally in
a lot of political battles.
702
00:39:15,914 --> 00:39:20,084
But I think he didn't understand
that there was an element
703
00:39:20,085 --> 00:39:24,822
of the feminist movement
grappling with sexual imagery,
704
00:39:24,823 --> 00:39:27,858
and that part of the women's movement
705
00:39:27,859 --> 00:39:30,761
was not gonna be happy with Playboy.
706
00:39:30,762 --> 00:39:33,464
If I could show you, Robin
707
00:39:33,465 --> 00:39:36,701
[Hugh Hefner] As frustrated
as I was with these attacks,
708
00:39:36,702 --> 00:39:39,470
I'd soon have to turn my attention
709
00:39:39,471 --> 00:39:42,039
to a battle I could fight...
710
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,111
as Penthouse was about to
push the envelope again.
711
00:39:47,112 --> 00:39:51,582
Forcing us to question how
far Playboy was willing to go.
712
00:39:51,583 --> 00:39:55,587
I was weak, I thought
that it would always last
713
00:39:57,689 --> 00:40:01,592
[woman]
Every little movement
714
00:40:01,593 --> 00:40:05,496
Every motion of your hips
715
00:40:05,497 --> 00:40:08,933
I feel the compulsion
716
00:40:08,934 --> 00:40:14,138
To pull you to my sweet lips
717
00:40:14,139 --> 00:40:18,509
Is it a black magic spell
718
00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:21,579
You put me under?
719
00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:24,849
This miracle moment
720
00:40:24,850 --> 00:40:29,453
Never let it end
721
00:40:29,454 --> 00:40:33,624
Every little movement
722
00:40:33,625 --> 00:40:37,394
Is beyond improvement
723
00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:40,264
You are the magician
724
00:40:40,265 --> 00:40:45,469
I've been wishing for forever
725
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:49,574
Every little movement
726
00:40:49,575 --> 00:40:53,044
Every little movement
727
00:40:53,045 --> 00:40:58,045
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