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>> EMERY SMITH: Today
on "Cosmic Disclosure,"
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we are with Randy Cramer, who
has participated in a covert
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military space program for 18
years called the Earth Defense
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Force.
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Today, we are talking about
the Galactic Federation.
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Randy, welcome.
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>> RANDY CRAMER:
Thanks for having me.
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Good to be here.
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>> EMERY: Former Israeli Space
Security Chief Haim Eshed said
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that we have been in contact
with extraterrestrials from
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a Galactic Federation.
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What does he mean by this?
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>> RANDY: Yeah, I think he
got in trouble for that.
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I don't think he was
supposed to say that,
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and he's been
quieted down probably
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quite a bit since then.
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Certainly, there
are the federation
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of worlds or
organization of worlds
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that come together
or come together
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in a Galactic Senate,
a deliberating body
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of policy-voting members.
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So we often refer to them
as the Galactic Senate,
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as that is where all the power,
and vote, and information comes
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from.
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>> EMERY: So that's what they
go by, not really Galactic
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Federation like pop
culture we talk about.
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It's the Galactic Senate.
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>> RANDY: Internally, we
refer to it more that way.
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But again, terminology
like this depending
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on what Department you're
in, whether you're military
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or whether you're
in the diplomat core
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or whether you're in
a corporate division.
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Some of these words become very
interchangeable to some people.
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>> EMERY: And who are the
members of this Galactic
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Senate?
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Is it organizations
or extraterrestrials?
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Are they interacting with us?
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>> RANDY: Every civilized world
in the galaxy that has been
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invited to be a member and has
accepted that membership is
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a member.
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Not everyone gets an invitation.
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>> EMERY: How do you get that?
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>> RANDY: Yeah, you have to be
a spacefaring civilized world
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that's willing to comply
with the treaties,
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which we are in the process at
the moment of becoming a fully
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spacefaring trading civilization
who is complying with those
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treaties.
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>> EMERY: When do you believe
that will be public for just
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the regular civilians here?
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>> RANDY: Soon.
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I mean, we always hope
it's going to be soon.
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I think that the tracking
of what's happening,
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we're still looking at some
inevitabilities that will
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be happening sooner than later.
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But it's another conversation.
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But I think we're
more like months away,
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maybe a few years
at the most, but I
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think that that's a stretch.
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>> EMERY: So what determines
their boundaries of limitations
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and interference with us?
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>> RANDY: Mostly votes
in the Senate in the body
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of the Senate where
if, for instance,
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we're having a transition period
and someone wants to say, well,
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I don't think they
should have an invasion.
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I think that's a bad
idea for everybody.
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And so there's a
policy conversation.
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There's a deliberation.
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There's a vote.
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And then whoever decides,
whoever wants to vote,
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that we should be able to have
our own invasion can vote we
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have our own invasion, and
those who say no, I don't think
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they should be able to
have their own invasion,
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will vote no.
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>> EMERY: Well, who is the head
of this Senate then, Randy?
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>> RANDY: Oh, there's
not a head of the Senate.
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I mean, there is a body
of hundreds of thousands
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of civilized worlds that
make up the entire--
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>> EMERY: So that
is the structure?
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>> RANDY: Yeah, it is
a deliberating body,
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which members can propose
conversations policy
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conversations the equivalent
of proposing a bill to be put
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into law or in some--
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I mean, their structure isn't
exactly the same as our own.
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So it's not exactly
one-to-one there,
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but it's similar enough that
deliberation, discussion
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of change of law, or
enactment of law or policy,
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and the more votes you
get, the more likely
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it is you're going to
get a yes to that thing
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or versus if you get
too many no votes
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and then it's not
going to be that thing.
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>> EMERY: So why are they
interacting with Earth?
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I mean, why Earth?
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I mean, how long has
this been going on?
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>> RANDY: A long time.
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I mean, thousands of years,
as near as we can tell.
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We have certainly
been watched over
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and kept an eye on by
these various civilizations
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and species for at least
thousands or hundreds
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of thousands of years.
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So, you know again, I think it
has a lot to do with the fact
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that we're a library planet,
housing of information
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from many, many other planets
in this part of the galaxy.
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But essentially,
because we're an up
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and coming psionically
emergent civilization, that
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means someone's going to
come along and start having
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conversations about,
hey, don't you
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want to come join the big
club and be in the big senate
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and get out of
student government
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and do the real thing?
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And bring us into
that conversation
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and bring us into the
operational procedures
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of the Galactic Senate.
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>> EMERY: Have they been part
of the seeding of humanity here
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on Earth, or did they
just show up recently?
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>> RANDY: You know the Senate
is an organization that has not
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been around long
enough, I think,
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to be a seeding organization.
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The current Galactic
Senate, as I understand it,
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has only been in operation for
about the last 50,000 years
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or less.
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So there are Galactic
historical upheavals,
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and my understanding is the
last sort of Galactic reset
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that we had socially,
politically governmentally
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was about 50,000 years ago.
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>> EMERY: Let's talk about
the members of this Galactic
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Senate.
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Who are they?
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>> RANDY: Again, every civilized
world that's been given
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and accepted an invitation.
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So, over 200,000
civilized worlds
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participate and have a chair
or a seat representation
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in the Galactic Senate.
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>> EMERY: Who's at the
top of that structure?
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>> RANDY: I don't know
that there's a top of that
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structure.
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It's pretty evened out.
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>> EMERY: It's like
a group collective.
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>> RANDY: Yeah, it's
very collective.
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I mean, certainly
more senior members
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who've been there
longer probably
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have a little more clout.
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But my interaction
with them is it
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seems less like there's not
someone in charge so much
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as a large deliberative
body in which it
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has its hands in many,
many, many thousands
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of other cookie jars
that it is attempting
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to manage and maintain
and conduct interviews,
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investigations, convey
information up and down
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the chain in order
for the Galaxy
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to run as smoothly as possible.
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And that's saying
something, considering
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how not smoothly and
smoothly it seems to run
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given those circumstances.
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>> EMERY: How long do these
Galactic senators if you would
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stay in service for that?
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Is it different because
of different timelines
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for aging species?
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>> RANDY: Sure, I mean, the
species' age would certainly
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have a lot to do with how long
they might be deliberating
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in the Senate.
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But and it also depends on
the world that they come from.
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Some people-- some worlds
would have the same idea
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that we do that you
don't necessarily
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have the same job forever
and for your entire life.
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But we also have people in this
world that have the same job
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and do the same career
their entire life.
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>> EMERY: So are they born into
it, or are they voted into it?
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>> RANDY: It depends on the
world you're talking about.
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It would be different depending
on the social structure
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of the planet that
they come from.
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So, but they're certainly
elected or appointed
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depending on the world
that they come from,
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and they're allowed to
be there for as long
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as either the people
who send them there
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find them suitable to be
there or their appointees
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or their pointers--
sorry appointers
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find them suitable to be there.
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But it's a flexible
job like anything else.
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I mean, there are
people who've been
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in it for centuries and
longer and other people who
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are new at it.
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>> EMERY: Now, what determines
their boundaries of limitations
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and interference here?
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>> RANDY: Yeah, again, that
really mostly has to do with
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policy voting.
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So, I'll see if I can be
more specific about that.
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So you have some sort of larger
groupings of species that
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cluster around kind of, let's
call it intention and belief
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so that you have the busybodies,
nosy busybodies which think
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that they should be involved
in everybody's business
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and dealing with everybody's
business and fixing
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everybody's, every world's
problems and getting involved
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in every civilzation's--and
so forth.
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So you have the busybodies.
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You also have the NIMBYs,
the Not In My Back Yards.
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They're like, well,
as long as this
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isn't happening in my
area, then I'm OK with it.
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You also have the let's not do
anything and let it sort itself
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out types who are like,
well, let's not get involved,
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and let's let them
sort itself out.
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Let's let evolution
take its own course.
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You have clusters of ways
in which members vote.
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And so depending on
what the policy question
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is, how many busybodies think
that they should be involved,
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how many of the
not in my backyards
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don't want to have anything
to do with it if it's
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too close to them, how many of
let the path of evolutionary
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whatever take its
course, depending
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on how many people
you can convince
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to vote one way or another will
depend on how those votes go.
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But I will just say the
cloister of let's just
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let it work itself out
is a lot of people,
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there's a lot of votes
that are often just like,
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er, let's just let
it sort itself out.
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And they're often arguing
with the busybodies,
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well, no, we got to do this.
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And, er, let's let
it sort itself out.
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No, let's really get in there.
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No, let's not.
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So depending on how the
brakes are will depend on
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whether a policy vote
goes one way or the other
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based on the cloistering of
ideas of how much interference
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really do you want to
have or should you have.
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Different opinions about that.
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>> EMERY: You said us joining
the Galactic Senate will be
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happening soon.
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>> RANDY: Well, it's an
inevitability like so many
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other things.
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We are in a position where
we are we're very smart.
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We're very clever.
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We're pretty fierce, and
we make really good stuff.
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So, as we find our place in
the intergalactic community,
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it's not without some position
of authority and responsibility
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because we're really good
at the things that we do.
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Being really good at
the things that we do,
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we want to be as involved in
those processes as possible.
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So we have as many people as
we can involving themselves
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in the trade negotiation
with the trade
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federation or the
trade consortium
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or whatever they want to
call themselves these days.
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We've got people who
are well involved
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in politics at the
Galactic Senate level
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because they want to make
sure that when we have
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representation, we understand
how the freaking system works,
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so we know what
we're doing, and we
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know how to get things
done, how to make things
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happen here and elsewhere.
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We have one of the strongest,
most powerful militaries
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in this corner of the galaxy.
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That's, again, no small feat
that we have achieved that
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in such a tiny, tiny amount
of time, less than a century.
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In less than a century, we have
gone from slingshot flicking
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monkeys to the
intergalactic community
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to a absolutely respectable
military in which people know
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to not poke us in
the eye, and maybe
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if they need help that,
we should be the ones
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they call first because
we're incredibly capable.
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So that's happened in a
very short amount of time.
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So everybody wants
to get involved.
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Everybody wants to participate
so that we have the greatest
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advantage and position possible
to do the best that we can
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and control the space
in which we live,
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and that includes our own
solar system and nearby
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so that we can police,
navigate, and peaceably control
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for commerce more space as
possible because the more
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that we can control
for commerce,
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the more prosperous and
peaceful our planet will be.
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>> EMERY: Are there any species
in the Galactic Senate that
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oppose the Earth going this far
joining up with the Galactic
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Senate?
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>> RANDY: Oh, sure.
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Yeah.
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>> EMERY: And why is
that, and who are they?
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>> RANDY: Sure.
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I mean, they're kind of the
senior citizens of the crowd.
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They're like old people
that are just like you're
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too young, you whippersnapper.
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You're not ready yet.
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Just that kind of crap.
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So I mean, it's
just people who have
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been around a little
bit longer and forgot
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what it was like maybe
to be new and forgot
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what it was like to be starting
up again and/or just kind
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of like you're not ready.
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>> EMERY: Could it ever be a
possibility that that group
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would get together
and, like I'll say,
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vote against us joining
the Galactic Senate?
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>> RANDY: There's not enough of
them to swing that many votes,
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I think.
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I mean, they're a pretty
small block of votes.
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>> EMERY: Do you remember
what species they came from?
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>> RANDY: I mean, well,
we're talking again.
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We're talking about
consortiums of species,
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over 200,000 species
we're talking
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about voting blocks of--
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consortiums of voting blocs
that agree or see things
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a similar way, which is why they
end up being voting blocs that
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vote the same way on things.
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>> EMERY: In pop culture, they
do talk about the same dozen.
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How is that in
reference to this?
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>> RANDY: Well, I mean because
way back in the early days
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in the '40s and '50s, we were
initially contacted by a tiny
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handful that became a slightly
larger handful that for several
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decades was who we were dealing
with was a dozen different
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species.
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Let's just say that most people
have not moved beyond that.
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And let's just say that
the community at large
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hasn't moved beyond that when
those numbers of other species
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have grown exponentially
over the last few decades,
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and we're dealing with a
lot more, but you know.
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>> EMERY: Who actually now
is dealing with humanity now,
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and who determines
that, and who are they?
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>> RANDY: The diplomatic core
of the Galactic Senate would be
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responsible for that.
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They would be the--
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>> EMERY: What's
a diplomatic core?
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>> RANDY: The diplomatic
core would be those who are
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responsible for
diplomacy, ambassadors,
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and all of their personnel.
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When you need to
talk about things,
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you have diplomats
talk to diplomats.
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Once something's been ironed out
and you have an agreement, then
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corporations or
companies or businesses,
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business to business
can start talking,
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and they can start trading.
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If there's military involvement,
then diplomatic cores
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can talk to military personnel
then military personnel
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can be involved.
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But your diplomatic cores
are your first contact
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of communication
between any world.
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You're going to talk through
an ambassadorial team
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through another
ambassadorial team, people
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who are specialized in
training and experience
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at how to be really cordial
and polite with everyone
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no matter what.
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And that's why they do that.
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That's why that's their
job because they're
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really good at that.
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So, all those
initial conversations
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will be started with
the diplomatic core.
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>> EMERY: You mentioned there's
200,000 members in the Galactic
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Senate.
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That would be so
overwhelming for us.
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So, who are we directly
in contact with for that?
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>> RANDY: Right, well, again,
we started the initial contact
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with a limited
number of species.
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We were talking to
the Zetas we were
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talking to members of the
Agarthan network, members
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of the Andromedans.
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So we had these early
contacts with folks who
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were the initial contact point.
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And from there, we have
been introduced just
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to more and more and
more and more over time.
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So now our own registry of
species worlds that we're
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contacting is well over 1,000.
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I mean, we're in the we're
in the thousands, I think,
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at this point.
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So it's been growing
drastically every year.
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>> EMERY: Now, how do
other beings like the Greys
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and the Reptilians carry out
their agendas here on Earth?
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Do they have to face first
the Galactic Federation?
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>> RANDY: No, mostly
it's because we're out
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in the boonies.
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We're in the sticks.
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And so it's whatever you can
get away with until you can't.
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And people have been able to get
away with whatever here until
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we established military presence
so that they cannot just do
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whatever they wanted to do.
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So that's taken
some time, but we're
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doing way better there
than we've ever been.
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>> EMERY: Now, are there other
species like us similar to us
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that are even farther out than
these boondocks that we're in?
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>> RANDY: Oh, yeah, sure.
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I mean, it gets even--
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>> EMERY: Are they more
advanced or less advanced?
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>> RANDY: Most of what happens
as you go out towards the rim
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is it gets less advanced as
you go towards the rim and more
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advanced as you go
to Galactic Central.
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Tendency.
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That doesn't mean that
there aren't more advanced
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or some more advanced
species out there.
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It just tends to be a
very, very tiny number.
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>> EMERY: What is
Galactic Central?
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Where is that located?
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>> RANDY: If you
look at the, well,
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if we're talking about
the Milky Way galaxy,
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you look at a picture, a
map of the Milky Way galaxy,
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and there's this cluster of
stars in the middle that makes
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this big ball of what
looks like white,
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just a big white ball
of clusters of stars.
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That's basically
Galactic Central
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that's or Downtown as
we call it sometimes.
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>> EMERY: Who has the final say
in terms of programs that are
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being enacted on planet Earth?
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Is it the humans?
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Is it the extraterrestrials?
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>> RANDY: That's
a good question.
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I would say that there's
a conversation that
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has to take place.
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There's not much
that we're going
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to allow to happen here
that we don't have a say in,
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and there's not much
that we're going
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to do right now
that we're not going
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to want to hear what the
say of the Galactic Senate
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is because we want
to be in compliance.
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We want that seat.
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We want everything to
go very, very well,
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so we would like to be
in compliance with that.
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But we're also not
letting someone else
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decide our fate for us.
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So these are conversations in
which both parties or multiple
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parties are going to have to
sit down, talk it out, work it
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out, and come to a mutually
acceptable conclusion
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or understanding of
what's going to happen.
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>> EMERY: Well, what limits us
to what we can say in our own
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sovereignty?
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>> RANDY: Less and
less every day,
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the more military
power that we have,
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the more our own ability to
decide what we want to do
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and our own sovereignty on
any given day on our ability
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to choose our own destiny
is more and more prevalent.
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Every day, we get
closer and closer
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to being more and more
self-determined, more and more
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self-sovereign as a species.
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But there's going to be
some interaction for quite
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some time.
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And being a good member of
the intergalactic community
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is not just about doing what
we want to do on our own time
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and making our own decisions.
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It is also about being
responsible to the law
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and order of the universe at
large and the galaxy at large.
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>> EMERY: Well, access to
exploration in space for people
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on planet Earth, will that be
more of an experience that we
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can do, or is that something
that it'll be under more
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control of advanced
extraterrestrial civilizations?
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>> RANDY: My understanding
is that when we get past
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our actual disclosure moment,
there's supposed to be a end
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to the trade embargo, an
end to the travel embargo,
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and an end to the
information embargo.
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So, hopefully, that means
more information, more trade,
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and more free travel.
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>> EMERY: So those are the
things that will help us go
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amongst the stars?
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>> RANDY: Absolutely.
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Yeah, I mean, we
got a lot of people
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here that want to
conduct a lot of business
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and sell a lot of stuff, sell
their paintings somewhere else,
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sell their sculptures
somewhere else,
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sell their albums
somewhere else,
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and sell their
beer somewhere else
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and there's a lot of
customers out there
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that want to buy that stuff.
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>> EMERY: How does this in
relation to some of the very
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conscious 5D beings?
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How do they fit into this?
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>> RANDY: Well, they have the
luxury of being able to have
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that opinion if they want to
have it because they don't have
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to worry about food, or water,
or shelter, or security,
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or safety, or any
of those things.
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And so when you have
the luxury of not having
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to worry about any
of those concerns,
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then you can have
super highfalutin ideas
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about how we should
live or exist
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as long as it is the case that
we are cellular beings that
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require water, food,
shelter, and so forth.
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I mean, we want to talk about
Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
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I mean, there's a whole
bunch of things that we need,
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from physical material
to social, emotional,
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psychological
fulfillment, in order
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to be decent human beings.
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But it's not going to
be a matter of, hey,
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we're going to come--
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forget those guys trying
to trade stuff with you.
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We're going to come over
here and just show you
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how to evolve
psionically so that you
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don't have to do that anymore.
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That's not a finger snap.
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That's not a process
that's going to happen
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in months or years even.
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This is a process that
could take minimum decades
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or centuries.
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>> EMERY: Well, us going into
space and traveling around
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and gaining that experience,
we'll learn these things?
487
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>> RANDY: Eventually,
yeah, over time.
488
00:22:43,492 --> 00:22:45,015
I mean, there's a
process for that.
489
00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,843
There is a growth
process for that.
490
00:22:46,974 --> 00:22:49,368
But as long as we have
billions of people
491
00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:53,241
that require food, water,
shelter, and sustenance,
492
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:56,549
the main reason that
our civilization exists
493
00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:59,465
is going to be to trade
goods and services.
494
00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:01,771
So that everyone
can be sustained.
495
00:23:01,902 --> 00:23:06,210
We are still biological mammals
that can starve to death,
496
00:23:06,341 --> 00:23:10,563
dehydrate to death, freeze
to death, overheat to death,
497
00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:13,043
or any other number
of things to death,
498
00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:15,916
which mean we require
food, water, shelter,
499
00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:19,180
and other things to get
out of survival states.
500
00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:20,790
And as long as we're
in survival states,
501
00:23:20,921 --> 00:23:22,531
we're never going
to evolve to that.
502
00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:24,881
So we have to fix
the civilization
503
00:23:25,012 --> 00:23:28,102
that we're in so that we're
not panicking and wanting
504
00:23:28,232 --> 00:23:31,801
for food, water, and
shelter, then we can evolve.
505
00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:33,977
But until we get
past this stuff,
506
00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:38,155
we're not going to be able to
do any of that evolution stuff,
507
00:23:38,286 --> 00:23:40,419
not as a society, not
as a civilization.
508
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:42,464
As individuals,
yes, we can always
509
00:23:42,595 --> 00:23:45,249
be doing this as individuals,
but as a society,
510
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:46,990
it's going to take
more than that.
511
00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:50,429
>> EMERY: What do we need to do
for Earth to have more access
512
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,997
to advanced civilizations
here in space?
513
00:23:54,128 --> 00:23:57,436
>> RANDY: You know, I think
it would help us tremendously
514
00:23:57,566 --> 00:24:03,877
as Terrans if we could behave
less like chimpanzees throwing
515
00:24:04,007 --> 00:24:05,444
poop at each other.
516
00:24:05,574 --> 00:24:08,490
If we can separate ourselves
from some of our lower
517
00:24:08,621 --> 00:24:11,972
primal primate
behavior, which is
518
00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:15,149
a lot of what is our undoing,
I think, at the moment, then
519
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:16,629
we have a greater
chance of that.
520
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:19,283
It's like a teenager
asking their parents when
521
00:24:19,414 --> 00:24:21,416
do they to get the
keys to the car,
522
00:24:21,547 --> 00:24:24,767
and the answer is when
you're responsible enough,
523
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:28,945
and you behave like I can trust
you with the keys to the car
524
00:24:29,076 --> 00:24:31,121
and not like you're
going to go running down
525
00:24:31,252 --> 00:24:35,299
the road throwing poop at
people outside the car window.
526
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:38,346
>> EMERY: Did they ever
talk about a percentage?
527
00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:41,523
Does the entire planet have
to be conscious and not
528
00:24:41,654 --> 00:24:45,179
push the red button at each
other for that to happen?
529
00:24:45,309 --> 00:24:46,789
Did they ever mention
like, well, maybe
530
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,663
if the half of the planet's
this conscious or 2/3,
531
00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:52,273
maybe we can--
532
00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:54,362
>> RANDY: Critical mass is
what we're talking about,
533
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:56,146
but and we don't have
a number on that.
534
00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:59,585
We have continued to try
and solve for that number,
535
00:24:59,715 --> 00:25:02,239
like what is the number
of critical mass.
536
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:03,371
What's the number?
537
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:04,851
Is it 100%?
538
00:25:04,981 --> 00:25:07,941
No, it doesn't have
to be 100%, but it has
539
00:25:08,071 --> 00:25:09,638
to be more than what it is now.
540
00:25:09,769 --> 00:25:14,600
So somewhere between where
we are and under 100,
541
00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:19,909
and we got to be working towards
that so that we can earn it
542
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,087
a little bit and be
trusted to be responsible
543
00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:27,264
people and like we're not
going to just go wreck the car.
544
00:25:27,395 --> 00:25:29,179
>> EMERY: Will they
allow humanity to do that
545
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:35,403
on their own natural lifespan,
or would they ever interfere
546
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:39,929
and speed that up with
maybe a cataclysmic event?
547
00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:42,410
>> RANDY: Yeah, I mean, I think
we're well on our way towards
548
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,151
that being sped up.
549
00:25:44,281 --> 00:25:46,806
And I don't know, I've been
hearing some interesting things
550
00:25:46,936 --> 00:25:49,417
recently.
551
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:52,028
I mean, we feel that
everything that we're hearing
552
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,335
is still directing
us that an invasion
553
00:25:54,465 --> 00:25:58,731
scenario is more likely
still than anything else.
554
00:25:58,861 --> 00:26:02,125
>> EMERY: As our mentor, would
the Galactic Senate allow this
555
00:26:02,256 --> 00:26:03,387
to happen?
556
00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:04,780
>> RANDY: That's
a good question.
557
00:26:04,911 --> 00:26:07,391
And I have had
many conversations
558
00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:11,613
with many different
Terrans and non-Terrans
559
00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:13,310
about this very subject.
560
00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:15,530
And again, there seems to be
some differences of opinion
561
00:26:15,661 --> 00:26:16,879
here.
562
00:26:17,010 --> 00:26:18,185
And so, again, it
depends on who you ask.
563
00:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,926
It depends on what
answer we get.
564
00:26:20,056 --> 00:26:21,405
>> EMERY: Looks like though
in history, wouldn't you say,
565
00:26:21,536 --> 00:26:23,190
Randy, that they have been
interacting and pulling
566
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,584
the reins back on us, especially
with anything to do with
567
00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:29,196
nuclear radiation, including the
power plants and the warheads?
568
00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:30,763
>> RANDY: Yeah, some, for sure.
569
00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:33,461
I mean, we've certainly
seen quite a bit of that,
570
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,594
but we have not
seen 100% of that.
571
00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:38,248
We have seen testing.
572
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:40,686
We have seen live
warhead activity.
573
00:26:40,816 --> 00:26:43,123
We have seen the use of
tactical nuclear warheads
574
00:26:43,253 --> 00:26:45,342
over the last 20 years.
575
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:47,040
Most people don't talk about it.
576
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:51,000
Most people don't-- it's not
very publicly talked about,
577
00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:55,526
but tactical nukes were
used in Iraq 10 years ago.
578
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:58,704
Where's the dividing
line between,
579
00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:02,838
we'll help up to this point,
but not up to this point,
580
00:27:02,969 --> 00:27:05,406
or we won't interfere
up to this point
581
00:27:05,536 --> 00:27:08,409
and then but we would
interfere after that point.
582
00:27:08,539 --> 00:27:09,802
Big question.
583
00:27:09,932 --> 00:27:11,978
And do I know the answer?
584
00:27:12,108 --> 00:27:16,765
No, because I've talked to
20 different Terrans and 20
585
00:27:16,896 --> 00:27:19,986
different non-Terrans, and
depending on who I've talked to
586
00:27:20,116 --> 00:27:22,205
has depended on
what answer I get.
587
00:27:22,336 --> 00:27:24,730
And so because the
answers are inconsistent,
588
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,601
I don't know what the
real answer to that is.
589
00:27:26,732 --> 00:27:28,516
I don't know where
the real lines are.
590
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:31,301
There are people that
would like to think, no,
591
00:27:31,432 --> 00:27:35,262
they won't let us all
die, OK, but what's all?
592
00:27:35,392 --> 00:27:37,264
No, they're going to
preserve the civilization.
593
00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:38,178
Well, what's that mean?
594
00:27:38,308 --> 00:27:40,006
Preserve what?
595
00:27:40,136 --> 00:27:42,661
So I think when you get
into the details of what
596
00:27:42,791 --> 00:27:45,533
do these things really mean,
who's going to get protected?
597
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:51,452
Who's a flower, and who's
a weed in this metaphor?
598
00:27:51,582 --> 00:27:53,889
You know, who's a rutabaga
and who's a thistle?
599
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,500
I mean, what's the
comparison here?
600
00:27:56,631 --> 00:27:59,634
And who's judging that and
how do you decide that,
601
00:27:59,765 --> 00:28:04,639
and by what criteria and what's
enough and what's too much?
602
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:06,249
>> EMERY: Randy,
on a positive note,
603
00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:09,470
what could you share with
our viewers about elevating
604
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,038
our consciousness
so at that time,
605
00:28:12,168 --> 00:28:15,868
it's not if we're a good
flower or a bad weed?
606
00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:18,000
>> RANDY: I think psionic
development and psionic
607
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:20,437
self-mastery and
learning, mental skills,
608
00:28:20,568 --> 00:28:23,614
and mental self-mastery is
probably the most important
609
00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:27,401
thing that anybody can still
learn to do at this point
610
00:28:27,531 --> 00:28:31,318
for their own well-being when it
comes to communication contact
611
00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:33,581
and not being eaten.
612
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,453
>> EMERY: Absolutely, I think
awareness is very important
613
00:28:36,584 --> 00:28:38,194
for that kind of contact.
614
00:28:38,325 --> 00:28:40,109
>> RANDY: Well, this is why my
partner Kendra and I started
615
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,330
the University of Conscious
Evolution to teach psionic
616
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,376
principles, meditation,
psionic self-mastery,
617
00:28:46,507 --> 00:28:49,815
and development so that people
can learn the basic tools
618
00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:52,165
and skills of psionic
communication,
619
00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:55,124
psionic self-mastery,
and development.
620
00:28:55,255 --> 00:28:56,822
>> EMERY: Well, Randy,
thank you so much.
621
00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:58,040
Very interesting, as always.
622
00:28:58,171 --> 00:28:59,259
Thanks for being on the show.
623
00:28:59,389 --> 00:29:01,000
>> RANDY: Thank
you for having me.
624
00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:03,263
>> EMERY: I'm Emery Smith, and
this is "Cosmic Disclosure."
625
00:29:03,393 --> 00:29:04,743
Until next time.
626
00:29:04,873 --> 00:29:08,181
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