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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.26,0:00:04.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1}MAN:{\i0}\NDr. Oppenheimer's continuing\Nconduct and associations
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.70,0:00:07.32,Default,,0,0,0,,have reflected\Na serious disregard
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.32,0:00:09.80,Default,,0,0,0,,for the requirements\Nof the security system.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.96,0:00:11.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1}MAN:{\i0}\NThe country asked him\Nto do something
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.80,0:00:13.58,Default,,0,0,0,,and he did it brilliantly.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.68,0:00:16.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1}MAN:{\i0}\NHe didn't understand what sort\Nof forces he was up against.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.30,0:01:19.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(lighter snaps shut)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.56,0:01:35.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(stenotype clicking)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.74,0:01:37.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NThe hearing will come to order.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.29,0:01:42.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Dr. J.R. Oppenheimer,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.83,0:01:45.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}the Institute\Nfor Advanced Study,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.37,0:01:46.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Princeton, New Jersey.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.71,0:01:52.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There has developed\Nconsiderable question
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.18,0:01:54.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}whether your\Ncontinued employment
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.98,0:01:58.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}on Atomic Energy Commission work\Nis consistent
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.24,0:02:00.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}with the interests\Nof the national security.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.74,0:02:07.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}In view of your access
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.59,0:02:10.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}to highly sensitive\Nclassified information,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.23,0:02:14.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and in view of allegations\Nwhich, until disproved,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.33,0:02:18.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}raise questions\Nas to your veracity, conduct,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.13,0:02:20.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and even your loyalty,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.37,0:02:23.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}the Commission has\Nno other recourse
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.27,0:02:25.51,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}but to suspend your clearance
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.57,0:02:28.21,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}until the matter\Nhas been resolved.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.22,0:02:53.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The hearings were held in a makeshift courtroom
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.10,0:02:56.32,Default,,0,0,0,,in a shabby government office in Washington, D.C.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.90,0:02:58.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NIt was reported that your wife,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.80,0:03:02.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Katherine Puening Oppenheimer,\Nwas a member of the Communist Party.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.72,0:03:05.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It was reported that your brother
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.20,0:03:08.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Frank Friedman Oppenheimer \Nwas a member of the Communist Party.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.25,0:03:11.89,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}J. Robert Oppenheimer,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.95,0:03:14.92,Default,,0,0,0,,the most eminent\Natomic scientist in America,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.22,0:03:19.24,Default,,0,0,0,,stood accused,\Na risk to national security.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.14,0:03:23.00,Default,,0,0,0,,It was 1954.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.70,0:03:26.44,Default,,0,0,0,,The cold war with Russia\Nwas fueling fears
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.44,0:03:28.24,Default,,0,0,0,,of Communist infiltration
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.58,0:03:30.50,Default,,0,0,0,,at the highest levels\Nof government.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.16,0:03:33.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NIt was reported that you stated
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.00,0:03:34.56,Default,,0,0,0,,that you were not a Communist,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.56,0:03:38.00,Default,,0,0,0,,but had probably belonged \Nto every Communist front organization
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.00,0:03:38.95,Default,,0,0,0,,on the West Coast
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.95,0:03:41.00,Default,,0,0,0,,and had signed many petitions
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.00,0:03:43.04,Default,,0,0,0,,in which Communists\Nwere interested.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.86,0:03:51.19,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The news shocked\NAmericans everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.26,0:03:53.46,Default,,0,0,0,,If Robert Oppenheimer\Ncould not be trusted
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.53,0:03:56.33,Default,,0,0,0,,with the nation's secrets,\Nwho could be?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.74,0:04:05.01,Default,,0,0,0,,Brilliant, proud, charismatic,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.07,0:04:07.68,Default,,0,0,0,,a poet as well as a physicist,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.96,0:04:11.62,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer had seemed to enjoy\Nthe full trust and confidence
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.62,0:04:13.10,Default,,0,0,0,,of his country's leaders.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.18,0:04:15.86,Default,,0,0,0,,He was a national hero,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.48,0:04:18.96,Default,,0,0,0,,the man who had led\Nthe scientific team
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.04,0:04:20.98,Default,,0,0,0,,which devised the atomic bomb...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.16,0:04:29.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.10,0:04:32.97,Default,,0,0,0,,...the ultimate weapon\Nof mass destruction.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.12,0:04:41.76,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer came to prominence\Nthrough unspeakable violence
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.32,0:04:45.72,Default,,0,0,0,,and suffered all the ambiguities\Nand contradictions
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.98,0:04:47.68,Default,,0,0,0,,he had helped to create.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.00,0:04:51.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}J. Robert Oppenheimer,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} (archival):{\i0}\NWe knew the world would not be the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.16,0:04:56.48,Default,,0,0,0,,A few people laughed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.26,0:04:59.76,Default,,0,0,0,,A few people cried.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.52,0:05:02.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Most people were silent.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.32,0:05:06.68,Default,,0,0,0,,I remembered the...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.16,0:05:10.68,Default,,0,0,0,,line from the Hindu scripture,\Nthe {\i1}Bhagavad Gita.{\i}
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.44,0:05:15.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Vishnu...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.20,0:05:20.34,Default,,0,0,0,,is trying\Nto persuade the prince that
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.66,0:05:23.20,Default,,0,0,0,,he should do his duty,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.84,0:05:26.12,Default,,0,0,0,,and to impress him,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.68,0:05:29.22,Default,,0,0,0,,takes on his multi-armed form
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.30,0:05:31.44,Default,,0,0,0,,and says,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.20,0:05:36.04,Default,,0,0,0,,"Now I am become death,\Nthe destroyer of worlds."
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.74,0:05:41.34,Default,,0,0,0,,I suppose we all thought that\None way or another.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.50,0:05:50.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0} \NWhat he was trying to help the world to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.58,0:05:52.82,Default,,0,0,0,,is that these are not weapons.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.82,0:05:56.42,Default,,0,0,0,,These are forces of destruction\Nso great
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.10,0:05:59.80,Default,,0,0,0,,that we finally, as a species,\Nare in a position
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.80,0:06:02.16,Default,,0,0,0,,where we can destroy\Nthe entire human world,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.72,0:06:03.96,Default,,0,0,0,,without question.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.68,0:06:07.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}As the nation's top nuclear weapons advisor,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.62,0:06:09.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Oppenheimer tried to warn his countrymen
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.90,0:06:11.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}of their dangers,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.60,0:06:14.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}but powerful figures\Nwithin the government feared
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.26,0:06:16.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}he was a threat to America's security.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.80,0:06:19.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}They determined to destroy him.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.06,0:06:21.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NThe country asked him to do something,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.82,0:06:23.62,Default,,0,0,0,,and he did it brilliantly,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.55,0:06:26.10,Default,,0,0,0,,and they repaid him
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.36,0:06:29.64,Default,,0,0,0,,for the tremendous job he did
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.36,0:06:32.52,Default,,0,0,0,,by breaking him.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.44,0:06:36.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROGER ROBB,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Courtroom Prosecutor:{\i0}\NDoctor, do you think that social contacts
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.50,0:06:39.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}between a person employed in secret war work
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.49,0:06:42.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}and Communists or Communist adherents
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.54,0:06:43.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}is dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.10,0:06:45.78,Default,,0,0,0,,Are we talking about today?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.78,0:06:46.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.90,0:06:49.47,Default,,0,0,0,,Certainly not necessarily so.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.54,0:06:52.01,Default,,0,0,0,,They could\Nconceivably be.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.07,0:06:55.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Was that your view in 1943\Nand during the war years?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.24,0:06:58.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The hearings would go on for nearly a month,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.26,0:07:02.40,Default,,0,0,0,,the story of Oppenheimer's life\Nlaid bare;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.58,0:07:04.18,Default,,0,0,0,,his secrets exposed;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.96,0:07:06.68,Default,,0,0,0,,his brilliance and arrogance,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.86,0:07:09.08,Default,,0,0,0,,naivetรฉ and insecurities
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.26,0:07:12.40,Default,,0,0,0,,debated, dissected and judged.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.34,0:07:17.02,Default,,0,0,0,,A special three-man board,
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Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.58,0:07:22.84,Default,,0,0,0,,To defend himself,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.84,0:07:25.30,Default,,0,0,0,,the embattled scientist\Nfelt compelled
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.30,0:07:28.20,Default,,0,0,0,,to tell his own story\Nin his own way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.72,0:07:32.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NThe items of so-called derogatory information
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.64,0:07:34.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}cannot be fairly understood
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.44,0:07:37.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}except in the context\Nof my life and-and work.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.68,0:07:46.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I was born in New York in 1904.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.86,0:07:49.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}My father came to this country\Nat the age of 17
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.80,0:07:50.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}from Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.26,0:07:57.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Julius Oppenheimer\Nwas a penniless Jewish immigrant
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Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.88,0:08:02.96,Default,,0,0,0,,unable to speak a word\Nof English,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.30,0:08:06.90,Default,,0,0,0,,and went to work in his uncle's\Ntextile importing business.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.38,0:08:09.85,Default,,0,0,0,,By the time he was 30,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.24,0:08:13.29,Default,,0,0,0,,he was a partner in the company\Nand a wealthy man.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.54,0:08:15.66,Default,,0,0,0,,When he fell in love,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.10,0:08:18.62,Default,,0,0,0,,it was with a sensitive,\Ntalented woman
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.78,0:08:21.20,Default,,0,0,0,,of exquisite taste\Nand refinement.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.54,0:08:23.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}My mother was born in Baltimore,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.84,0:08:25.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and before her marriage,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.38,0:08:27.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}she was an artist\Nand teacher of art.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.18,0:08:30.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Ella Oppenheimer was "very delicate,"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.98,0:08:32.24,Default,,0,0,0,,a friend remembered,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.52,0:08:34.86,Default,,0,0,0,,with an air of sadness\Nabout her.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.96,0:08:38.34,Default,,0,0,0,,Robert was\Nprecociously brilliant,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.34,0:08:42.00,Default,,0,0,0,,and both parents were protective\Nof his uncommon gifts.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.62,0:08:44.66,Default,,0,0,0,,Frail, frequently sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.90,0:08:46.82,Default,,0,0,0,,he was attended to by servants,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.92,0:08:48.06,Default,,0,0,0,,driven everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.72,0:08:50.68,Default,,0,0,0,,He rarely played\Nwith other children.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.92,0:08:52.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe wasn't mischievous.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.76,0:08:55.68,Default,,0,0,0,,He was too brilliant to be\Njust one of the children.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.34,0:08:58.54,Default,,0,0,0,,But his parents treasured him,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.72,0:09:00.50,Default,,0,0,0,,treated him like a little jewel,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.78,0:09:03.34,Default,,0,0,0,,and he just skipped being a boy.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.00,0:09:07.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}"My childhood did not\Nprepare me for the fact
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Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.12,0:09:12.30,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer said.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.88,0:09:16.86,Default,,0,0,0,,"It gave me no normal, healthy way \Nto be a bastard."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.78,0:09:25.82,Default,,0,0,0,,Sometime around the age of five,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.82,0:09:29.23,Default,,0,0,0,,Robert's grandfather gave him\Na small collection of minerals.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.92,0:09:31.48,Default,,0,0,0,,"From then on," he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.82,0:09:34.52,Default,,0,0,0,,"I became, \Nin a completely childish way,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.82,0:09:36.66,Default,,0,0,0,,"an ardent mineral collector.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.28,0:09:41.06,Default,,0,0,0,,"But it began to be also a bit\Nof a scientist's interest,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.28,0:09:43.28,Default,,0,0,0,,a fascination with crystals."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.14,0:09:47.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NHe wrote to the New York Mineralogical Society
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Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.58,0:09:52.29,Default,,0,0,0,,They were so impressed\Nwith what he had to say that,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.84,0:09:54.66,Default,,0,0,0,,of course, thinking he was an adult,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.66,0:09:56.29,Default,,0,0,0,,they invited him to give a lecture,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.52,0:09:59.56,Default,,0,0,0,,and little Robert,\Nat age ten or 11,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.56,0:10:02.24,Default,,0,0,0,,shows up at the New York\NMineralogical Society,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.24,0:10:03.70,Default,,0,0,0,,and has to stand on a box
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.70,0:10:06.72,Default,,0,0,0,,in order to see over the lectern\Nto give this lecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.92,0:10:10.26,Default,,0,0,0,,That is not a normal average childhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.31,0:10:16.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Eight years separated Robert\Nfrom his brother Frank,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.16,0:10:19.12,Default,,0,0,0,,too many for companionship.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.08,0:10:21.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Robert was a loner.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.30,0:10:24.69,Default,,0,0,0,,And at New York's Ethical Culture school,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.88,0:10:27.66,Default,,0,0,0,,he inhabited his own rarefied world,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.94,0:10:29.76,Default,,0,0,0,,more comfortable with his teachers
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.76,0:10:31.16,Default,,0,0,0,,than with the other students,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.32,0:10:34.14,Default,,0,0,0,,who nicknamed him\N"Booby" Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.72,0:10:35.96,Default,,0,0,0,,To protect himself,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.22,0:10:38.70,Default,,0,0,0,,he relied on his preternatural brilliance
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.00,0:10:41.26,Default,,0,0,0,,and grew aloof and arrogant.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.36,0:10:45.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe didn't grow up.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.98,0:10:49.78,Default,,0,0,0,,He studied a great deal,\N which shielded him from the world,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.82,0:10:52.65,Default,,0,0,0,,and the emotional side of him
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.92,0:10:55.10,Default,,0,0,0,,didn't catch up\Nuntil much later.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.50,0:11:00.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer graduated high school valedictorian
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.76,0:11:02.62,Default,,0,0,0,,and then conquered Harvard.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.82,0:11:06.94,Default,,0,0,0,,He studied chemistry,\Nphysics, calculus,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.30,0:11:09.02,Default,,0,0,0,,English and French literature,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.32,0:11:12.32,Default,,0,0,0,,Western, Chinese\Nand Hindu philosophy.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.58,0:11:15.88,Default,,0,0,0,,He even found time \Nto write stories and poems.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.04,0:11:17.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe described it as being
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.36,0:11:19.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\Nlike the Huns invading Rome,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.61,0:11:23.61,Default,,0,0,0,,by which he meant he was going\Nto swallow up every bit
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.68,0:11:27.45,Default,,0,0,0,,of culture and art and science\Nthat he could possibly do.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.36,0:11:32.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NHarvard is an environment in which the intellectual life
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.18,0:11:34.24,Default,,0,0,0,,is a rich feast,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.60,0:11:37.22,Default,,0,0,0,,but the social life is a desert.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.30,0:11:47.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In all his years at Harvard,\Nhe never had a date.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.00,0:11:51.24,Default,,0,0,0,,He remained immature, uncertain,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.58,0:11:54.58,Default,,0,0,0,,easily bewildered\Nin social situations.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.74,0:11:59.68,Default,,0,0,0,,One friend remembered\N"bouts of melancholy
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.26,0:12:02.64,Default,,0,0,0,,and deep, deep depressions."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.39,0:12:08.62,Default,,0,0,0,,"In the days of my almost\Ninfinitely prolonged adolescence,"
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.62,0:12:11.58,Default,,0,0,0,,he said later,\N"I hardly took an action,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.70,0:12:14.80,Default,,0,0,0,,"hardly did anything\Nthat did not arouse in me
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.80,0:12:18.10,Default,,0,0,0,,"a very great sense\Nof revulsion and of wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.18,0:12:20.74,Default,,0,0,0,,"My feeling about myself
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.74,0:12:24.22,Default,,0,0,0,,was always one\Nof extreme discontent."
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.08,0:12:29.68,Default,,0,0,0,,His doubts about himself\Ncame clear in his poems:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.64,0:12:33.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} (David Strathairn):{\i0}\NThe dawn invests our substance with desire
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.08,0:12:38.00,Default,,0,0,0,,And the slow light betrays us,\Nand our wistfulness...
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.36,0:12:41.42,Default,,0,0,0,,We find ourselves again
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.54,0:12:43.46,Default,,0,0,0,,Each in his separate prison
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.92,0:12:47.18,Default,,0,0,0,,Ready, hopeless for negotiation
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.18,0:12:48.28,Default,,0,0,0,,With other men.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.38,0:12:58.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer graduated in just three years,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.92,0:13:02.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and in 1925 headed for Cambridge, England,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.60,0:13:06.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and an advanced degree at the\Ncelebrated Cavendish laboratory.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.68,0:13:10.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Academic success had always come easily.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.95,0:13:13.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Ambitious, \Ndetermined to succeed,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.98,0:13:16.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}in England he would learn\Nwhat it was like to struggle
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.16,0:13:18.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and fail.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.12,0:13:22.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer, like so many theoretical physicists,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.84,0:13:24.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}it turns out that if he walks through a lab,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.52,0:13:25.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}the instruments all break.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.08,0:13:29.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}And he's trying to do \Na rather delicate physical experiment
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.56,0:13:31.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and he's not getting anywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.21,0:13:33.07,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}And he's sinking deeper and deeper
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.14,0:13:35.61,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}into that special despair
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.18,0:13:39.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that comes along when prodigies grow up
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.26,0:13:42.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and have... and realize they can't just do it
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.48,0:13:43.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}by being a prodigy anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.02,0:13:48.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NHis eyes and his hands and his mind
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.56,0:13:49.72,Default,,0,0,0,,are not coordinated.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.72,0:13:53.44,Default,,0,0,0,,He's can't do what all\Nof the other young people
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.44,0:13:54.54,Default,,0,0,0,,are able to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.10,0:13:58.80,Default,,0,0,0,,And he finds himself one day\Nstanding at a blackboard,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.00,0:14:02.28,Default,,0,0,0,,staring into space, saying,\N"The point is...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.28,0:14:04.00,Default,,0,0,0,,The point is...\NThe point is..."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.00,0:14:05.22,Default,,0,0,0,,There is no point.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.94,0:14:14.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe fell into despair. He fell into depression.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.42,0:14:18.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Here was a point \Nwhere he was suddenly doubting his intellect,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.12,0:14:21.12,Default,,0,0,0,,his ability to do science,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.36,0:14:23.72,Default,,0,0,0,,so it's not surprising that at that point,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.88,0:14:26.32,Default,,0,0,0,,the whole thing \Nwould go collapsing down for him.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.44,0:14:31.70,Default,,0,0,0,,At the same time,\Nhe had never really learned
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.70,0:14:33.58,Default,,0,0,0,,how to approach women,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.92,0:14:36.60,Default,,0,0,0,,how to close the sale,\Nif I may call it that,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.26,0:14:39.14,Default,,0,0,0,,and he was dealing\Nwith that as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.34,0:14:44.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a1}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Wrestling with inner demons
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.00,0:14:45.75,Default,,0,0,0,,that threatened to overwhelm him,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.94,0:14:50.36,Default,,0,0,0,,he was, he later said, \N"at the point of bumping myself off."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.88,0:14:57.96,Default,,0,0,0,,In 1926, \NOppenheimer would save himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.86,0:15:01.88,Default,,0,0,0,,He cut free from the English\Nexperimental laboratory
Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.00,0:15:03.90,Default,,0,0,0,,and headed for Gรถttingen, \NGermany,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.22,0:15:06.14,Default,,0,0,0,,to study theoretical physics
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.14,0:15:09.00,Default,,0,0,0,,with some of the greatest\Nscientific minds of the century.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.52,0:15:14.44,Default,,0,0,0,,"I had very great misgivings\Nabout myself on all fronts,"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.44,0:15:15.22,Default,,0,0,0,, he said.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.66,0:15:19.40,Default,,0,0,0,,"I hadn't been good;\NI hadn't done anybody any good;
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.90,0:15:23.22,Default,,0,0,0,,and here was something\NI felt just driven to try."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.86,0:15:28.90,Default,,0,0,0,,In Gรถttingen, \NOppenheimer would make his mark in a new science
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.18,0:15:33.00,Default,,0,0,0,,which explored a world\Nthat ran counter to everyday experience:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.42,0:15:34.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Quantum Physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.83,0:15:37.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HERBERT YORK,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NQuantum Physics is the basic Physics
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.32,0:15:39.36,Default,,0,0,0,,behind electrons and atoms.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.70,0:15:42.54,Default,,0,0,0,,It turns out that classical ideas about
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.76,0:15:46.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Newtonian mechanics and particle motion and so on,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.22,0:15:50.48,Default,,0,0,0,,do not apply to things of...\Nto things of atomic scale.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.55,0:15:52.30,Default,,0,0,0,,You needed\Na new kind of physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.66,0:15:55.12,Default,,0,0,0,,So if you're going to change\Non a different scale
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.46,0:15:57.32,Default,,0,0,0,,the-the whole structure of the physics,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.39,0:16:00.05,Default,,0,0,0,,everything has to be redone,\Nif you will,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.42,0:16:03.20,Default,,0,0,0,,and that means \Nthere are enormous opportunities available
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.34,0:16:05.28,Default,,0,0,0,,for a young graduate student
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.42,0:16:09.60,Default,,0,0,0,,with talent to come in \Nand make various aspects of this his own.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.18,0:16:12.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer immersed himself
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.12,0:16:14.52,Default,,0,0,0,,in the mysteries\Nof the subatomic universe,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.62,0:16:18.24,Default,,0,0,0,,where nothing was certain,\Nand probability the only rule.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.86,0:16:21.14,Default,,0,0,0,,He found the work exhilarating.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.46,0:16:23.52,Default,,0,0,0,,"There was terror," he wrote,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.68,0:16:25.26,Default,,0,0,0,,"as well as exaltation."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.76,0:16:29.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}FREEMAN DYSON,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NOppenheimer really flourished there.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.78,0:16:32.82,Default,,0,0,0,,He annoyed everybody, of course, by
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.14,0:16:34.66,Default,,0,0,0,,talking too much and...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.82,0:16:38.24,Default,,0,0,0,,pretending he knew everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.54,0:16:41.84,Default,,0,0,0,,He always considered\Nvery carefully what he said
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.84,0:16:44.92,Default,,0,0,0,,as though he was \Nspeaking for the ages.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.92,0:16:47.74,Default,,0,0,0,,And he expected everybody\Nto be seduced
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.74,0:16:50.66,Default,,0,0,0,,by his Renaissance man knowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.02,0:16:52.22,Default,,0,0,0,,of everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.86,0:16:56.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In Gรถttingen, \NOppenheimer came into his own
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.66,0:16:58.21,Default,,0,0,0,,as a theoretical physicist,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.52,0:17:02.00,Default,,0,0,0,,publishing 16 papers\Nin three years.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.86,0:17:05.32,Default,,0,0,0,,By the time he was ready\Nto return to America,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.50,0:17:07.26,Default,,0,0,0,,he was focused and confident,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.62,0:17:11.12,Default,,0,0,0,,an ambitious young man \Nwith an international reputation.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.14,0:17:17.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NIn the spring of 1929,\NI returned to the United States.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.64,0:17:19.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I was homesick for this country.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.40,0:17:22.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I had learned in my student days
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.18,0:17:24.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}a great deal about the new physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.38,0:17:27.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I wanted to pursue this myself,\Nto explain it,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.22,0:17:30.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and to foster its cultivation.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.74,0:17:33.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer was just 25
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.08,0:17:36.68,Default,,0,0,0,,and already knew more\Nabout the Quantum Universe
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.86,0:17:38.56,Default,,0,0,0,,than nearly any other American.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.52,0:17:40.94,Default,,0,0,0,,He settled in California
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.06,0:17:43.66,Default,,0,0,0,,and began teaching at Cal Tech\Nin Pasadena
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.90,0:17:46.62,Default,,0,0,0,,and the University of California\Nin Berkeley.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.28,0:17:48.30,Default,,0,0,0,,But at first,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.72,0:17:50.92,Default,,0,0,0,,his lectures were incomprehensible.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.46,0:17:54.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIt was customary until I got there
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.70,0:17:57.58,Default,,0,0,0,,for students \Nto take his main course in Theoretical Physics
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.58,0:17:58.72,Default,,0,0,0,,twice in a row.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.04,0:18:01.74,Default,,0,0,0,,They would take a second year\Nto fully understand it.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.48,0:18:05.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Other students were taking it in pairs.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.40,0:18:07.60,Default,,0,0,0,,One would listen,\Nthe other one would write notes
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.60,0:18:09.76,Default,,0,0,0,,and they'd work out the lecture\Nafterward.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.78,0:18:13.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NHe spoke at a very fast clip,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.56,0:18:15.86,Default,,0,0,0,,puffing on his cigarette,\Nwhich he always had;
Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.86,0:18:18.64,Default,,0,0,0,,he was writing with his chalk,\Nand he was moving back and forth
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.78,0:18:21.22,Default,,0,0,0,,between his left hand \Nand his right hand so quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.22,0:18:23.30,Default,,0,0,0,,that people thought \Nhe was going to smoke the chalk,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.50,0:18:25.20,Default,,0,0,0,,you know, \Nand write with the cigarette,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.52,0:18:28.92,Default,,0,0,0,,uh... and... \Nthey couldn't follow him.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.86,0:18:33.58,Default,,0,0,0,,But he was able\Nto transform himself
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.58,0:18:36.94,Default,,0,0,0,,into an excellent lecturer\Nwho was charismatic
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.94,0:18:38.55,Default,,0,0,0,,and extremely effective.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.06,0:18:42.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:\N{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer became a magnetic, dazzling teacher,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.38,0:18:46.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}but his arrogance could make\Neven his colleagues wince.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.20,0:18:48.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe was not likable
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.72,0:18:50.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\Nbecause he wouldn't let you look at him.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.90,0:18:52.94,Default,,0,0,0,,He was always on stage.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.34,0:18:54.84,Default,,0,0,0,,You never had a feeling
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.08,0:18:58.17,Default,,0,0,0,,that he was speaking\Nfrom the heart somehow.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.54,0:19:01.54,Default,,0,0,0,,He never came across\Nas a real person.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.04,0:19:04.84,Default,,0,0,0,,There was always a studied remark
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.44,0:19:08.60,Default,,0,0,0,,intended to convey some sort of,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.60,0:19:10.08,Default,,0,0,0,,I don't know, superiority
Dialogue: 0,0:19:10.74,0:19:13.32,Default,,0,0,0,,or deeper knowledge\Nthan you pos...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.32,0:19:15.66,Default,,0,0,0,,you slobs could possibly understand.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.74,0:19:19.96,Default,,0,0,0,,He could be devastating,\Nespecially to young people.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.26,0:19:22.22,Default,,0,0,0,,He became very impatient
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.22,0:19:24.34,Default,,0,0,0,,and was always all over them,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.74,0:19:27.80,Default,,0,0,0,,and sometimes \Nreduced them practically to tears.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.10,0:19:30.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHis sharp remarks were not inadvertent.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.36,0:19:34.66,Default,,0,0,0,,They had to do with a kind\Nof arrogance and contempt.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.56,0:19:37.26,Default,,0,0,0,,I take it to be a way
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.26,0:19:39.80,Default,,0,0,0,,that he disguised his anxieties,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.00,0:19:42.46,Default,,0,0,0,,that he disguised\Nhis social insecurities,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.70,0:19:44.52,Default,,0,0,0,,but it was immensely cruel.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.48,0:19:48.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer called his behavior\N"beastliness."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.58,0:19:52.52,Default,,0,0,0,,"It is not easy," \Nhe wrote in a letter to his brother,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.08,0:19:55.26,Default,,0,0,0,,"at least it is not easy for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.56,0:19:59.04,Default,,0,0,0,,to be quite free of the desire\Nto browbeat somebody."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.98,0:20:08.40,Default,,0,0,0,,Ever since Oppenheimer\Nhad visited New Mexico
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.40,0:20:12.58,Default,,0,0,0,,as a teenager, \Nhe had been haunted by its wild beauty.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.06,0:20:20.78,Default,,0,0,0,,In 1927, \Nhis father took a lease on a rustic cabin
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.92,0:20:24.62,Default,,0,0,0,,high in the mountains \N45 miles northeast of Santa Fe
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.14,0:20:27.15,Default,,0,0,0,,and gave it to both his sons.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.34,0:20:31.24,Default,,0,0,0,,The Oppenheimers called it\N{\i1}Perro Caliente,{\i}
Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.54,0:20:33.90,Default,,0,0,0,,Spanish for "hot dog."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.46,0:20:35.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe found peace there.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.14,0:20:38.50,Default,,0,0,0,,He found a different self there,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.62,0:20:41.90,Default,,0,0,0,,one that he liked,\Na cowboy self.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.86,0:20:47.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Friends who went to visit him \Nlater would talk about the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.02,0:20:50.42,Default,,0,0,0,,that he would go out riding\Nfor three days at a time
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.42,0:20:52.86,Default,,0,0,0,,up the ridge\Nof the Rocky Mountains
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.04,0:20:54.82,Default,,0,0,0,,with a bar of chocolate
Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.82,0:20:57.28,Default,,0,0,0,,and a pint of whiskey\Nin his hip pocket,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.46,0:20:59.86,Default,,0,0,0,,and they would be starving\Nand terrified
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.86,0:21:02.04,Default,,0,0,0,,riding through mountain storms\Nand lightning,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.16,0:21:04.64,Default,,0,0,0,,and he would just be having\Na wonderful time.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.86,0:21:08.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}"My two great loves,"
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.32,0:21:09.68,Default,,0,0,0,,he once told a friend,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.86,0:21:12.42,Default,,0,0,0,,"are physics and desert country.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.90,0:21:15.84,Default,,0,0,0,,It's a pity\Nthey can't be combined."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.94,0:21:19.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(birds singing)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.24,0:21:25.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(loud shouting,\Nwhistle blowing)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.66,0:21:26.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(gunshots)
Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.00,0:21:31.24,Default,,0,0,0,,In 1934, \NSan Francisco longshoremen battled police,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.40,0:21:33.90,Default,,0,0,0,,shutting down the waterfront\Njust across the bay
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.90,0:21:35.62,Default,,0,0,0,,from Oppenheimer's home\Nin Berkeley.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.26,0:21:40.68,Default,,0,0,0,,America itself \Nseemed on the verge of revolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.92,0:21:42.60,Default,,0,0,0,,with violence in the streets,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.96,0:21:45.28,Default,,0,0,0,,strikes, a failing economy,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.54,0:21:47.70,Default,,0,0,0,,a third of the nation\Nunemployed.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.40,0:21:50.84,Default,,0,0,0,,But Oppenheimer remained aloof.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.56,0:21:54.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\c&HF3C76E&\i1}OPPENHEIMER:{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&\i0}\NI had no radio, no telephone.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.60,0:21:57.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I never read a newspaper\Nor a current magazine.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.54,0:22:00.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I learned\Nof the stock market crash
Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.52,0:22:03.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}in the fall of 1929\Nonly long after the event.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.48,0:22:06.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I voted for the first time
Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.46,0:22:09.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}in a presidential election\Nin 1936.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.54,0:22:12.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I was deeply interested in my science,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.14,0:22:14.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}but I had no understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.80,0:22:17.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}of the relations of man to his society.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.20,0:22:20.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThe Depression didn't affect him personally.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.26,0:22:22.82,Default,,0,0,0,,He had an income from his father,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.82,0:22:23.88,Default,,0,0,0,,who was wealthy.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.88,0:22:26.04,Default,,0,0,0,,And politics
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.38,0:22:28.46,Default,,0,0,0,,seemed gross to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.70,0:22:32.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NBeginning late in 1936,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.44,0:22:34.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}my interests began to change.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.92,0:22:38.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I saw what the Depression\Nwas doing to my students.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.38,0:22:40.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Often, they could get no jobs.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.58,0:22:42.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}But I had no framework
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.12,0:22:44.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}of political conviction\Nor experience
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.90,0:22:46.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}to give me perspective\Nin these matters.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.72,0:22:49.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}In the spring of 1936,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.44,0:22:52.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I was introduced by friends\Nto Jean Tatlock.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.96,0:22:55.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}In the autumn,\NI began to court her.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.30,0:23:01.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We were at least twice \Nclose enough to marriage
Dialogue: 0,0:23:01.20,0:23:03.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}to think of ourselves as engaged.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.92,0:23:09.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Jean Tatlock was Oppenheimer's first real love.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.78,0:23:12.56,Default,,0,0,0,,She was 22,\Nstudying to be a doctor,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.88,0:23:14.38,Default,,0,0,0,,and passionately involved
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.38,0:23:16.46,Default,,0,0,0,,with the contentious issues\Nof her day:
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.06,0:23:18.72,Default,,0,0,0,,the civil war in Spain,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.96,0:23:20.52,Default,,0,0,0,,organizing workers,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.74,0:23:22.30,Default,,0,0,0,,racial discrimination.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.04,0:23:25.36,Default,,0,0,0,,She was also a member\Nof the Communist Party
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.64,0:23:28.60,Default,,0,0,0,,and introduced Oppenheimer\Ninto her political circle.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.24,0:23:31.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I made left-wing friends,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.26,0:23:33.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and felt sympathy for causes
Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.56,0:23:36.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}which hitherto would have seemed\Nso remote from me,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.20,0:23:38.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}like the Loyalist cause in Spain
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.34,0:23:40.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and the organization of migratory workers.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.98,0:23:44.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I liked the new sense of companionship
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.32,0:23:47.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and, at the time, \Nfelt that I was coming to be part
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.24,0:23:49.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}of the life of my time and country.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.48,0:23:53.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I did not then regard Communists\Nas dangerous,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.34,0:23:56.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and some of their declared objectives
Dialogue: 0,0:23:56.08,0:23:57.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}seemed to me desirable.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.24,0:23:59.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NIn the 1930s,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.60,0:24:00.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\Nin the bottom of the Depression,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.94,0:24:04.04,Default,,0,0,0,,there was a deep\Nand fundamental concern
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.04,0:24:06.06,Default,,0,0,0,,about the future of this country,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.22,0:24:07.86,Default,,0,0,0,,whether its economic
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.86,0:24:11.48,Default,,0,0,0,,and, to some degree,\Npolitical system was adequate.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.96,0:24:14.84,Default,,0,0,0,,We came later in America\Nto demonize people
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.84,0:24:16.50,Default,,0,0,0,,who belonged to the Communist Party,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.82,0:24:19.62,Default,,0,0,0,,but it was a very common business in the '30s.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.42,0:24:24.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Workers, teachers,\Ndoctors, writers.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:24.60,0:24:28.10,Default,,0,0,0,,Americans of every stripe\Nand color were party members,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.60,0:24:31.56,Default,,0,0,0,,but although he shared many\Nof their political concerns,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.86,0:24:33.02,Default,,0,0,0,,there is nothing to prove
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.02,0:24:35.54,Default,,0,0,0,,that Oppenheimer himself\Nwas a Communist.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.72,0:24:37.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer never joined the party.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.16,0:24:40.38,Default,,0,0,0,,The FBI spent 30 years
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.38,0:24:43.10,Default,,0,0,0,,trying to prove \Nthat Oppenheimer had been a Communist
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.24,0:24:45.10,Default,,0,0,0,,and was never able to do so.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.38,0:24:48.28,Default,,0,0,0,,That's probably good evidence\Nthat he never joined the party.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.96,0:24:53.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer was deeply bound\Nto Tatlock,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.96,0:24:56.04,Default,,0,0,0,,but she was volatile, moody,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.40,0:24:57.80,Default,,0,0,0,,sometimes distraught.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.44,0:25:02.38,Default,,0,0,0,,After three years, \Nshe broke off their relationship.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.68,0:25:05.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NTheir relationship appears to have been
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.42,0:25:07.03,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\Nquite a stormy one,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.03,0:25:09.04,Default,,0,0,0,,and Jean Tatlock,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.36,0:25:14.20,Default,,0,0,0,,although for many years \Npeople who knew her didn't say this,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.36,0:25:16.70,Default,,0,0,0,,was uncertain whether she...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.21,0:25:21.16,Default,,0,0,0,,wanted to be with men or women,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.16,0:25:24.26,Default,,0,0,0,,whether she was lesbian\Nor heterosexual,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.56,0:25:27.38,Default,,0,0,0,,and, I believe, \Nthat must have been at the bottom
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.66,0:25:29.82,Default,,0,0,0,,of her crises with Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.18,0:25:33.44,Default,,0,0,0,,And how that fed into his own
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.76,0:25:38.42,Default,,0,0,0,,sexual certainties and uncertainties,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.70,0:25:40.50,Default,,0,0,0,,one can only imagine.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.02,0:25:43.18,Default,,0,0,0,,He was troubled.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.30,0:25:47.20,Default,,0,0,0,,That's why he was attracted\Nto troubled women.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.46,0:25:48.46,Default,,0,0,0,,He was troubled.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.46,0:25:50.04,Default,,0,0,0,,He didn't know who he was.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.84,0:25:56.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer would always feel\Na tender attachment to Jean,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.44,0:25:58.34,Default,,0,0,0,,but they had gone\Ntheir separate ways.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.54,0:26:01.12,Default,,0,0,0,,When Kitty Harrison set her cap\Nfor him.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.44,0:26:03.94,Default,,0,0,0,,Kitty was 29
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.16,0:26:06.64,Default,,0,0,0,,and also a former\NCommunist Party member.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.98,0:26:08.46,Default,,0,0,0,,She was married to a doctor,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.00,0:26:10.16,Default,,0,0,0,,but that didn't stop her
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.16,0:26:12.50,Default,,0,0,0,,from going after \Nthe well-known scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.16,0:26:15.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NWhen she saw Oppenheimer, she grabbed him.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.68,0:26:18.22,Default,,0,0,0,,They were together, of course,\Nfor the rest of their lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.70,0:26:19.98,Default,,0,0,0,,but it was...
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.16,0:26:22.66,Default,,0,0,0,,God knows, a tumultuous relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.60,0:26:25.82,Default,,0,0,0,,with a lot of bickering\Nand a lot of fighting
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.82,0:26:26.96,Default,,0,0,0,,and a lot of drinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.38,0:26:30.94,Default,,0,0,0,,You know, Kitty and Jean\Nwere both dominant women.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.94,0:26:32.82,Default,,0,0,0,,They were passionate women,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.92,0:26:35.34,Default,,0,0,0,,and in some way,\Nhe could comfort them.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.56,0:26:37.26,Default,,0,0,0,,He could save them, or try to.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.84,0:26:41.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Here were two women\Nwho both presented themselves
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.00,0:26:42.58,Default,,0,0,0,,as people who needed saving,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.96,0:26:44.54,Default,,0,0,0,,and Robert jumped in like the...
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.54,0:26:47.26,Default,,0,0,0,,like the white knight that he... \NI think, wanted to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.98,0:26:49.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1940,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.24,0:26:51.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer became Kitty's fourth husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.56,0:26:54.12,Default,,0,0,0,,Less than seven months later,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.12,0:26:56.44,Default,,0,0,0,,their first child,\NPeter, was born.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.58,0:27:00.56,Default,,0,0,0,,Although they continued to see \Nsome of their left-wing friends,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.84,0:27:02.64,Default,,0,0,0,,the Oppenheimers were, by now,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.74,0:27:05.88,Default,,0,0,0,,detaching themselves\Nfrom Communist Party politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.16,0:27:07.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NMy views were evolving.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.52,0:27:10.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}At that time,\NI did not fully understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.90,0:27:12.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}as in time\NI came to understand,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.76,0:27:16.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}how completely the Communist Party in this country
Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.76,0:27:18.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}was under the control of Russia.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.30,0:27:25.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Many of its declared objectives\Nseemed desirable to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.02,0:27:28.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}but I never accepted\NCommunist dogma or theory.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.30,0:27:31.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}In fact,\Nit never made any sense to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.88,0:27:36.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}What did make sense was science.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.74,0:27:39.66,Default,,0,0,0,,He would never let politics interfere \Nwith his teaching
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.08,0:27:41.44,Default,,0,0,0,,or his physics.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.64,0:27:46.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NOf course, he paid attention to experiment,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.10,0:27:48.53,Default,,0,0,0,,but he was a theorist.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.82,0:27:51.08,Default,,0,0,0,,He probed very deeply.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.70,0:27:54.76,Default,,0,0,0,,He was interested\Nin the deepest ideas,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.98,0:27:57.42,Default,,0,0,0,,and he did contribute\Nto some of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.70,0:28:00.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}FREEMAN DYSON,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIn 1939,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.08,0:28:02.54,Default,,0,0,0,,he published with his student\NHartland Snyder,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.54,0:28:04.32,Default,,0,0,0,,really a great piece of work,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.32,0:28:06.44,Default,,0,0,0,,explaining how stars collapse,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.80,0:28:09.36,Default,,0,0,0,,how they can actually\Nend up as black holes,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.36,0:28:10.96,Default,,0,0,0,,which had never been understood before.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.36,0:28:14.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}That same year, a startling dispatch
Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.96,0:28:17.52,Default,,0,0,0,,from the abstruse world of nuclear physics
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.52,0:28:19.36,Default,,0,0,0,,changed the course of history
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.70,0:28:21.24,Default,,0,0,0,,and Oppenheimer's life.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.16,0:28:24.56,Default,,0,0,0,,Two German chemists
Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.56,0:28:26.76,Default,,0,0,0,,reported that the uranium nucleus
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.88,0:28:27.98,Default,,0,0,0,,could be split.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.74,0:28:30.60,Default,,0,0,0,,The discovery soon had a name:
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.16,0:28:32.48,Default,,0,0,0,,Nuclear Fission.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.10,0:28:36.24,Default,,0,0,0,,"The U-business is unbelievable,"
Dialogue: 0,0:28:36.24,0:28:37.51,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer wrote.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.04,0:28:40.02,Default,,0,0,0,,"Many points are still unclear.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.78,0:28:42.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"I think it really not too improbable
Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.94,0:28:46.06,Default,,0,0,0,,"that a ten-centimeter cube\Nof Uranium deuteride
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.56,0:28:48.82,Default,,0,0,0,,might very well blow itself to hell."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:50.80,0:28:54.44,Default,,0,0,0,,The discovery of Nuclear Fission\Nbegan a race that would end
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.84,0:28:56.30,Default,,0,0,0,,with the atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.88,0:28:58.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe saw already
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.50,0:29:00.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}at the beginning, as, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.16,0:29:01.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}any really good physicist did,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.98,0:29:03.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}just by doing the numbers,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.08,0:29:04.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}about the
Dialogue: 0,0:29:04.00,0:29:06.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}amount of energy\Nreleased in this reaction,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.08,0:29:09.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that this was going\Nto change the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.74,0:29:14.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}With that discovery came a change
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.78,0:29:17.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}in the relationship between science
Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.20,0:29:18.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and the nation state.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.90,0:29:21.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Every country in the world
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.94,0:29:26.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}in 1939 and 1940\Nthat had the capability
Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.04,0:29:28.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}of even beginning\Nto work on a bomb
Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.56,0:29:29.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}began that work,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.00,0:29:33.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}not only England and Germany\Nand the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.90,0:29:38.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}but also France, Japan\Nand the Soviet Union.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.77,0:29:44.11,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But the only threat came from Germany.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.10,0:29:46.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NWe had information in those days
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.82,0:29:49.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}of German activity in the field of nuclear fission.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.20,0:29:52.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We were aware\Nof what it might mean
Dialogue: 0,0:29:52.14,0:29:54.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}if they beat us to the draw
Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.20,0:29:56.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}in the development of atomic bombs.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.72,0:29:58.09,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I had relatives there,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.56,0:30:00.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and was later\Nto help in extricating them
Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.72,0:30:02.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and bringing them to this country.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.50,0:30:04.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(weapons firing)
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.24,0:30:07.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Nine months after the discovery of nuclear fission,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.40,0:30:09.12,Default,,0,0,0,,Germany invaded Poland.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.78,0:30:12.10,Default,,0,0,0,,World War II had begun.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.96,0:30:15.88,Default,,0,0,0,,When the United States\Nentered the war two years later,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.04,0:30:17.74,Default,,0,0,0,,American scientists feared
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.74,0:30:19.86,Default,,0,0,0,,that Germany was already well ahead
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.92,0:30:22.08,Default,,0,0,0,,in the race to build an atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.16,0:30:26.06,Default,,0,0,0,,If America was going to develop a bomb first,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.34,0:30:27.92,Default,,0,0,0,,they would have to work fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.99,0:30:31.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(train whistle blowing)
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.00,0:30:34.10,Default,,0,0,0,,In October 1942,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.26,0:30:37.48,Default,,0,0,0,,the 20th Century Limited \Nwas speeding toward New York City.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.44,0:30:41.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Sharing a private Pullman car\Nwere Robert Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.00,0:30:44.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and a 46-year-old career Army officer,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.48,0:30:47.24,Default,,0,0,0,,General Leslie Groves.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.32,0:30:51.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Groves had been placed in command
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.36,0:30:53.05,Default,,0,0,0,,of the Manhattan Project,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.64,0:30:55.24,Default,,0,0,0,,the staggering enterprise
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.24,0:30:58.68,Default,,0,0,0,,to marshal the vast technical\Nand industrial resources
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.68,0:31:00.50,Default,,0,0,0,,to develop an atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.46,0:31:03.80,Default,,0,0,0,,Now, he was looking over the man
Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.80,0:31:06.20,Default,,0,0,0,,he hoped might head up\Nthe secret laboratory
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.42,0:31:09.13,Default,,0,0,0,,where the bomb would be designed and built.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.52,0:31:13.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NGroves's way of operating\Nwas to be blunt and brutal.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.66,0:31:16.44,Default,,0,0,0,,He knew, as they said\Nduring the First World War,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.60,0:31:18.96,Default,,0,0,0,,how to get the Spam to the front lines.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.96,0:31:20.84,Default,,0,0,0,,He knew how to get the job done.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.86,0:31:23.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The two men talked for hours.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.44,0:31:25.60,Default,,0,0,0,,When they were done,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.96,0:31:27.60,Default,,0,0,0,,Groves had made up his mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.98,0:31:30.48,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer, he believed,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.64,0:31:33.68,Default,,0,0,0,,had the ambition, discipline and brilliance
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.68,0:31:36.50,Default,,0,0,0,,to lead the most complex scientific effort
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.50,0:31:38.50,Default,,0,0,0,,America had ever undertaken.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.66,0:31:42.00,Default,,0,0,0,,"He's a genius,"\NGroves said later.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.10,0:31:43.30,Default,,0,0,0,,"A real genius.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.62,0:31:45.83,Default,,0,0,0,,"He can talk to you\Nabout anything you bring up.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.46,0:31:48.30,Default,,0,0,0,,"Well, not exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.06,0:31:51.00,Default,,0,0,0,,He doesn't know anything about sports."
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.86,0:31:53.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NGroves went a way out on a limb
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.52,0:31:55.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\Nin choosing Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.36,0:31:56.40,Default,,0,0,0,,No one would have
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.62,0:31:59.08,Default,,0,0,0,,would have supposed that this esoteric person,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.24,0:32:01.92,Default,,0,0,0,,with an interest in French poetry
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.92,0:32:03.18,Default,,0,0,0,,and Hindu mysticism,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.44,0:32:06.52,Default,,0,0,0,,would be a practical person\Nto lead a laboratory.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.70,0:32:08.96,Default,,0,0,0,,He'd never directed anything really,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.36,0:32:10.40,Default,,0,0,0,,to speak of.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.40,0:32:12.66,Default,,0,0,0,,He hadn't even been a department chairman.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.78,0:32:14.86,Default,,0,0,0,,Most of his friends think
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.86,0:32:17.42,Default,,0,0,0,,that Oppenheimer could not run a hamburger stand.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.58,0:32:20.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Groves wanted Oppenheimer anyway,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:21.18,0:32:23.06,Default,,0,0,0,,but the United States Army refused
Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.06,0:32:25.38,Default,,0,0,0,,to give the scientist a security clearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.62,0:32:28.12,Default,,0,0,0,,The country was at war.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.96,0:32:31.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Even though Russia was America's ally,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.50,0:32:33.76,Default,,0,0,0,,anyone with Communist associations
Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.98,0:32:36.18,Default,,0,0,0,,was considered a possible spy.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.30,0:32:38.58,Default,,0,0,0,,It was the first time
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.58,0:32:40.54,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer's loyalty to America
Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.54,0:32:41.64,Default,,0,0,0,,would be questioned.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.24,0:32:44.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThe security people are appalled.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.48,0:32:47.94,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer is the last person\Nthey would want as director,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.94,0:32:49.64,Default,,0,0,0,,and he's the next to the last person
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.64,0:32:52.02,Default,,0,0,0,,they'd even want involved in the project at all
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.02,0:32:54.14,Default,,0,0,0,,as a... uh... as a janitor.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.42,0:32:56.10,Default,,0,0,0,,Groves is very conservative.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.10,0:32:57.32,Default,,0,0,0,,He hates Communists.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.32,0:33:00.46,Default,,0,0,0,,But Groves does not allow
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.46,0:33:04.42,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer's left-wing activities during the 1930s
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.56,0:33:06.12,Default,,0,0,0,,to trump his belief
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.12,0:33:09.78,Default,,0,0,0,,that Oppenheimer will be\Njust the right person.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.64,0:33:13.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NIn early 1943,\NI received a letter,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.58,0:33:15.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}appointing me director of the laboratory.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.98,0:33:18.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Almost everyone knew\Nthis was a great undertaking.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.12,0:33:21.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It might determine the outcome of the war.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.12,0:33:24.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It was an unparalleled opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.56,0:33:28.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}to bring to bear the knowledge and art of science
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.50,0:33:29.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}for the benefit of the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.30,0:33:32.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}This job, if it were achieved,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.66,0:33:34.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}would be part of history.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.58,0:33:42.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer had once fantasized
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.54,0:33:44.72,Default,,0,0,0,,combining his passion for physics
Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.94,0:33:48.00,Default,,0,0,0,,with his love of the desert\Nand mountains of New Mexico.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.98,0:33:53.80,Default,,0,0,0,,Now, he suggested a remote wilderness
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.80,0:33:56.96,Default,,0,0,0,,near the Los Alamos Canyon,\Nnortheast of Santa Fe,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.14,0:33:59.52,Default,,0,0,0,,as the site for the atomic bomb laboratory.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.48,0:34:02.34,Default,,0,0,0,,General Groves quickly agreed.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.50,0:34:06.14,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer's fantasy had come true.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.70,0:34:10.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Before leaving for Los Alamos,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.78,0:34:13.50,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer entertained an old friend for dinner,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.70,0:34:15.18,Default,,0,0,0,,Haakon Chevalier,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.64,0:34:17.88,Default,,0,0,0,,a French professor teaching at Berkeley
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.24,0:34:19.84,Default,,0,0,0,,and a dedicated Communist.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.22,0:34:22.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer had known Chevalier for years.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.96,0:34:25.50,Default,,0,0,0,,He was...\NChevalier was one of his closet friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.12,0:34:28.06,Default,,0,0,0,,He knew Chevalier was a Communist.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.06,0:34:29.60,Default,,0,0,0,,It didn't really worry him.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.34,0:34:33.62,Default,,0,0,0,,He judged that Chevalier\Nwouldn't do anything
Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.62,0:34:36.48,Default,,0,0,0,,that would compromise Robert Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.18,0:34:39.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But Chevalier put Oppenheimer at risk.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.84,0:34:42.40,Default,,0,0,0,,He told his friend that a British engineer
Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.40,0:34:43.58,Default,,0,0,0,,named Eltenton
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.76,0:34:47.00,Default,,0,0,0,,wanted information about Oppenheimer's scientific work
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.22,0:34:50.26,Default,,0,0,0,,to pass on to a diplomat at the Soviet Embassy.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.36,0:34:53.32,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer dismissed the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.08,0:34:55.82,Default,,0,0,0,,"That would be treason,"\Nhe said.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.60,0:34:58.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer did not, at the time,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.46,0:35:01.24,Default,,0,0,0,,take this approach as something serious.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.50,0:35:03.80,Default,,0,0,0,,It was only later\Nthat it came to be a problem
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.80,0:35:07.16,Default,,0,0,0,,because it was useful \Nto people who wanted to destroy him
Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.16,0:35:08.20,Default,,0,0,0,,to make it a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.70,0:35:10.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROGER ROBB, {\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Courtroom Prosecutor:{\i0}\NDoctor, do you think that social contacts
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.46,0:35:13.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}between a person employed in secret war work
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.76,0:35:16.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}and Communists or Communist adherents
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.68,0:35:17.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}is dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.30,0:35:20.04,Default,,0,0,0,,Certainly not necessarily so.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.22,0:35:21.78,Default,,0,0,0,,They could conceivably be.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.50,0:35:25.22,Default,,0,0,0,,My awareness of the danger\Nwould be greater today.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.66,0:35:26.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Doctor, in your opinion,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.88,0:35:29.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}is association with the Communist movement
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.94,0:35:32.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}compatible with a job on a secret war project?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:33.58,0:35:36.14,Default,,0,0,0,,I was associated with the Communist movement,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.84,0:35:39.22,Default,,0,0,0,,and I did not regard it as inappropriate
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.22,0:35:41.00,Default,,0,0,0,,to take the job at Los Alamos.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.52,0:35:43.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Doctor, let me ask you a blunt question.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.34,0:35:48.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Don't you know, \Nand didn't you know certainly by 1943,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.40,0:35:50.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}that the Communist Party was an instrument
Dialogue: 0,0:35:50.54,0:35:53.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}or a vehicle of espionage in this country?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.02,0:35:56.44,Default,,0,0,0,,I was not clear about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.92,0:35:59.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}I am asking you now...
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.98,0:36:03.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}if fear of espionage
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.52,0:36:05.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}wasn't one of the reasons
Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.88,0:36:08.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}why you felt that association\Nwith the Communist Party
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.64,0:36:11.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}was inconsistent with work\Non a secret war project?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.66,0:36:13.32,Default,,0,0,0,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.68,0:36:16.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Your answer is that it was?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.38,0:36:17.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.00,0:36:20.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}You would have felt then,\NI assume,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.20,0:36:25.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}that a rather continued\Nor constant association
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.42,0:36:29.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}between a person employed\Non the atomic bomb project
Dialogue: 0,0:36:29.80,0:36:32.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}and Communists or Communist adherents
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.48,0:36:34.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}was dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.52,0:36:38.66,Default,,0,0,0,,Potentially dangerous,\Nconceivably dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.82,0:36:42.98,Default,,0,0,0,,Look, I have had a lot of secrets in my head \Na long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.76,0:36:45.58,Default,,0,0,0,,It does not matter who I associate with.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.58,0:36:47.36,Default,,0,0,0,,I don't talk about those secrets.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.42,0:36:53.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In times of spiritual trial,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.66,0:36:56.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer would search the {\i1}Bhagavad Gita,{\i}
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.70,0:36:58.52,Default,,0,0,0,,a sacred Hindu text,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.74,0:37:00.42,Default,,0,0,0,,for meaning and comfort.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.14,0:37:04.52,Default,,0,0,0,,He often turned to the story\Nof the warrior Prince Arjuna,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.02,0:37:09.08,Default,,0,0,0,,who, to fulfill his destiny,\Nmust fight and kill.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.90,0:37:14.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\N"In battle, in forest,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.08,0:37:16.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"at the precipice in the mountains,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.94,0:37:19.64,Default,,0,0,0,,"on the dark great sea,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.22,0:37:22.57,Default,,0,0,0,,"in the midst of javelins and arrows,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.74,0:37:26.52,Default,,0,0,0,,"in sleep, in confusion,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.22,0:37:28.76,Default,,0,0,0,,in the depths of shame,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.78,0:37:32.08,Default,,0,0,0,,the good deeds a man has done before
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.72,0:37:33.90,Default,,0,0,0,,defend him."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.78,0:37:41.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In April 1943,\NOppenheimer was 38 years old,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.66,0:37:43.22,Default,,0,0,0,,about to take on a task
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.22,0:37:45.38,Default,,0,0,0,,for which few people thought him capable:
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.86,0:37:47.88,Default,,0,0,0,,harnessing the forces of the atom
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.24,0:37:51.38,Default,,0,0,0,,to build a bomb\Nof awesome destructive power.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.92,0:37:53.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There was little doubt
Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.00,0:37:56.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}that a potentially world-shattering undertaking\Nlay ahead.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.74,0:38:00.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}We began to see\Nthe great explosion.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.86,0:38:04.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}We also began to see \Nhow rough, difficult, challenging
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.64,0:38:07.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and unpredictable \Nthis job might turn out to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.84,0:38:18.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NA whole town was being\Nconstructed,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.14,0:38:22.74,Default,,0,0,0,,and Oppenheimer \Nwas trying to organize the science.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.06,0:38:25.98,Default,,0,0,0,,But in addition,\Nthey were constructing roads,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.50,0:38:28.36,Default,,0,0,0,,laboratory buildings and homes.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.44,0:38:30.52,Default,,0,0,0,,We had no sidewalks anywhere,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.72,0:38:32.24,Default,,0,0,0,,and in one season of the year,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.24,0:38:34.62,Default,,0,0,0,,walked around\Nin mud up to our ankles.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.68,0:38:38.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThey were trying to build\Na first-class physics laboratory
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.14,0:38:41.14,Default,,0,0,0,,out in the middle of a howling wilderness.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.20,0:38:44.96,Default,,0,0,0,,It was a hell of a place \Nto try to move a linear accelerator
Dialogue: 0,0:38:44.96,0:38:47.64,Default,,0,0,0,,up the narrow switchback mountain roads
Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.86,0:38:49.50,Default,,0,0,0,,to install it at the top.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.74,0:38:55.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The laboratory at Los Alamos\Nwas a closely guarded secret.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.36,0:38:59.84,Default,,0,0,0,,From its beginnings, \Nsecurity had the highest priority.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.44,0:39:03.96,Default,,0,0,0,,Army intelligence watched over \Neverything and everybody,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.54,0:39:07.82,Default,,0,0,0,,especially the laboratory director\Nwith the left-wing past.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.42,0:39:11.38,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer's phones were tapped,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.72,0:39:12.92,Default,,0,0,0,,his mail opened,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.24,0:39:14.56,Default,,0,0,0,,his office wired,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.72,0:39:17.22,Default,,0,0,0,,his comings and goings\Nclosely monitored.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.10,0:39:21.18,Default,,0,0,0,,His driver and bodyguard\Nwas an undercover agent.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.74,0:39:25.94,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer, \Nwho knew everything that was going on at Los Alamos,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.04,0:39:28.96,Default,,0,0,0,,was still waiting\Nfor his security clearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.60,0:39:33.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NOppenheimer goes about \Ndoing the job as best he can do it,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.46,0:39:38.12,Default,,0,0,0,,but the security people \Nare like flies on a hot summer day.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.26,0:39:40.70,Default,,0,0,0,,They're constantly buzzing\Naround him.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.70,0:39:42.86,Default,,0,0,0,,They're constantly annoying him.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.02,0:39:46.30,Default,,0,0,0,,He does his best to shoo them,\Nyou know, away,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.42,0:39:48.14,Default,,0,0,0,,but there's one instance
Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.42,0:39:52.18,Default,,0,0,0,,where he makes a terrible,\Nterrible mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.30,0:39:57.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NI had visited Jean Tatlock\Nin the spring of 1943.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.32,0:39:59.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I almost had to.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.30,0:40:02.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}She was not much of a Communist,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.03,0:40:04.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}but she was certainly\Na member of the party.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.56,0:40:06.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There was nothing \Ndangerous about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.54,0:40:08.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There was nothing \Npotentially dangerous about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.92,0:40:12.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The government knew all about \NOppenheimer's visit.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.40,0:40:15.10,Default,,0,0,0,,Agents from Army intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.10,0:40:17.12,Default,,0,0,0,,waited outside Tatlock's apartment,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.26,0:40:19.06,Default,,0,0,0,,while Oppenheimer spent the night,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.20,0:40:22.10,Default,,0,0,0,,and reported the details\Nto the FBI.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.12,0:40:23.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROGER ROBB,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Courtroom Prosecutor:{\i0}\NWhy did you have to see her?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.14,0:40:28.00,Default,,0,0,0,,She had indicated a great desire to see me
Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.00,0:40:30.64,Default,,0,0,0,,before we left for Los Alamos.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.98,0:40:32.80,Default,,0,0,0,,At that time, I couldn't go.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.32,0:40:35.24,Default,,0,0,0,,For one thing,\NI wasn't supposed to say
Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.24,0:40:37.16,Default,,0,0,0,,where we were going or anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.04,0:40:40.52,Default,,0,0,0,,I felt that she had to see me.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:40.52,0:40:42.24,Default,,0,0,0,,She was undergoing psychiatric treatment.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.24,0:40:43.78,Default,,0,0,0,,She was extremely unhappy.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.98,0:40:46.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Did you find out why she had to see you?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.28,0:40:53.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Because she was still in love with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.14,0:40:59.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}When did you see her after that?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.90,0:41:04.50,Default,,0,0,0,,She took me to the airport,\Nand I never saw her again.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.06,0:41:07.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NJean Tatlock was a wounded,\Nlonely woman,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.78,0:41:09.22,Default,,0,0,0,,who was at wit's end,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.22,0:41:11.26,Default,,0,0,0,,and she wanted this man whom she loved
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.26,0:41:12.94,Default,,0,0,0,,to come to her and he did.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.52,0:41:16.12,Default,,0,0,0,,From the point of view\Nof the gumshoes who sat outside
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.12,0:41:19.04,Default,,0,0,0,,Jean Tatlock's apartment all night in their car,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.04,0:41:21.64,Default,,0,0,0,,writing down who came\Nand who went and at what hour,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.64,0:41:23.86,Default,,0,0,0,,and when the lights were on\Nand when the lights were off,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.22,0:41:25.98,Default,,0,0,0,,there may have been a security problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.68,0:41:27.82,Default,,0,0,0,,But for him,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.42,0:41:30.98,Default,,0,0,0,,human need, human compassion,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.46,0:41:33.38,Default,,0,0,0,,caring for someone you love
Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.38,0:41:35.30,Default,,0,0,0,,trumped the security system.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.04,0:41:39.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The FBI feared that Tatlock
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.18,0:41:42.02,Default,,0,0,0,,might be passing atomic secrets\Nto the Russians.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.94,0:41:44.28,Default,,0,0,0,,They tapped her phone,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.62,0:41:47.33,Default,,0,0,0,,but persistent eavesdropping\Nrevealed nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.80,0:41:51.34,Default,,0,0,0,,Six months\Nafter Oppenheimer's visit,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.76,0:41:54.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Jean Tatlock killed herself.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.94,0:41:58.08,Default,,0,0,0,,"I am disgusted with everything,"
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.28,0:42:00.54,Default,,0,0,0,,she wrote in an unsigned note.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.34,0:42:03.44,Default,,0,0,0,,"To those who loved me and helped me,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.72,0:42:05.30,Default,,0,0,0,,all love and courage.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.32,0:42:08.40,Default,,0,0,0,,"I wanted to live and to give,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.68,0:42:10.18,Default,,0,0,0,,and I got paralyzed.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.82,0:42:12.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"I tried like hell to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.22,0:42:14.14,Default,,0,0,0,,and couldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.02,0:42:17.56,Default,,0,0,0,,"I think \NI would have been a liability all my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.50,0:42:21.80,Default,,0,0,0,,"At least I could take away\N the burden of a paralyzed soul
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.18,0:42:23.58,Default,,0,0,0,,from a fighting world."
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.50,0:42:28.67,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You have said that you knew\Nshe had been a Communist?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.62,0:42:32.48,Default,,0,0,0,,Yes. I knew that\Nin the fall of 1937.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.64,0:42:34.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Was there any reason for you to believe
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.20,0:42:36.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}that she wasn't still a Communist in 1943?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.72,0:42:37.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}No.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.08,0:42:37.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Pardon?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.56,0:42:42.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There wasn't. \NI do not know what she was doing in 1943.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.44,0:42:44.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You had no reason to believe\Nshe wasn't a Communist, did you?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.32,0:42:46.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}No.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.24,0:42:53.84,Default,,0,0,0,,You spent the night with her,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.84,0:42:54.58,Default,,0,0,0,,didn't you?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.86,0:42:58.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.96,0:43:02.02,Default,,0,0,0,,That is when you were working\Non a secret war project?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.54,0:43:04.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.86,0:43:08.08,Default,,0,0,0,,You have told us,\Nthis morning,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.12,0:43:11.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that you thought that at times
Dialogue: 0,0:43:11.64,0:43:13.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}social contacts with Communists
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.78,0:43:17.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}on the part of one working\Non a secret war project
Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.84,0:43:19.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}was dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:19.62,0:43:21.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an1}Could conceivably be.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:22.26,0:43:24.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You didn't think spending a night
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.42,0:43:26.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}with a dedicated Communist...
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.26,0:43:28.83,Default,,0,0,0,,I don't believe \Nshe was a dedicated Communist.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.92,0:43:30.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You don't?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.70,0:43:31.54,Default,,0,0,0,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.90,0:43:52.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Five weeks after Oppenheimer's\Nvisit to Tatlock,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.98,0:43:56.32,Default,,0,0,0,,General Groves rammed through\Nhis security clearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.06,0:43:59.08,Default,,0,0,0,,But Oppenheimer continued to operate
Dialogue: 0,0:43:59.08,0:44:00.80,Default,,0,0,0,,under a shadow of suspicion,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.22,0:44:05.50,Default,,0,0,0,,and by the summer of 1943,\Nthe pressure began to tell.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.18,0:44:09.05,Default,,0,0,0,,That August, \NOppenheimer volunteered to talk
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.05,0:44:10.87,Default,,0,0,0,,with Colonel Boris Pash,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.07,0:44:13.95,Default,,0,0,0,,chief of Army counterintelligence for the West Coast.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.75,0:44:17.16,Default,,0,0,0,,He had begun to worry about his conversation
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.16,0:44:19.38,Default,,0,0,0,,with his friend Haakon Chevalier.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.15,0:44:22.94,Default,,0,0,0,,He realized \Nthat he should have reported it at once,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.68,0:44:26.31,Default,,0,0,0,,but he still didn't want to get\Nhis old friend in trouble.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.04,0:44:29.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}BORIS PASH,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Colonel US MI:{\i0}\NGeneral Groves has, more or less, I feel,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.22,0:44:30.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}BORIS PASH,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Colonel US MI:{\i0}\Nplaced a certain responsibility in me.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.68,0:44:32.57,Default,,0,0,0,,I don't mean to take up\Ntoo much of your time.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.10,0:44:34.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}{\i0}\NThat's perfectly all right.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.46,0:44:36.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Whatever time you choose.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.77,0:44:39.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I have no firsthand knowledge,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.06,0:44:42.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}but a man attached to the Soviet Consul
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.46,0:44:46.53,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}has indicated\N indirectly through an intermediary
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.71,0:44:49.31,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}that he was in a position to transmit information.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.00,0:44:53.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I think it might not hurt\Nto be on the lookout for it.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.11,0:44:56.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}If you wanted to watch him,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.62,0:44:58.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I think it would be the appropriate thing to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:58.68,0:45:00.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}His name is Eltenton.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.58,0:45:04.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer had simply wanted\Nto alert Army intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.80,0:45:06.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that Eltenton might be a threat,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.28,0:45:09.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}but Pash did not trust Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.66,0:45:11.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and his left-wing past.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.50,0:45:16.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}He hid a microphone\Nin the telephone receiver
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.50,0:45:18.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and recorded their entire conversation.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.64,0:45:24.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Oppenheimer had no idea \Nthat everything he said was set down,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.40,0:45:27.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}transcribed \Nand added to his security file,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.44,0:45:30.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}where it would be unearthed\Nyears later
Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.76,0:45:32.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}with disastrous consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.66,0:45:35.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NThere were approaches to other people
Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.14,0:45:37.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}who were troubled by them
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.72,0:45:40.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}and sometimes they came\Nand discussed them with me.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.76,0:45:43.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}And that's as far as I can go on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.68,0:45:46.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}BORIS PASH,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Colonel US MI:{\i0}\NThese people, were they contacted directly by Eltenton?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.28,0:45:46.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NNo.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.48,0:45:49.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}BORIS PASH,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Colonel US MI:{\i0}\NOh, through another party?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.74,0:45:51.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.22,0:45:54.04,Default,,0,0,0,,Well, now,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.04,0:45:56.11,Default,,0,0,0,,could we know through whom\Nthat contact was made?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:56.56,0:45:58.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I think it would be a mistake.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.34,0:46:00.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Oppenheimer makes up\Nthis complicated story
Dialogue: 0,0:46:00.82,0:46:05.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}so that the security people\Nare looking all over the place,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.76,0:46:09.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and they won't finger Robert\Nand they won't finger Chevalier.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.72,0:46:11.42,Default,,0,0,0,,He evidently hadn't learned to think
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.42,0:46:12.84,Default,,0,0,0,,the way security people think.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.14,0:46:17.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NEvery time he said something else, \Nhe just made it worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.36,0:46:18.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Pash ended up, of course,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.74,0:46:21.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}believing Oppenheimer was a Communist spy.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.10,0:46:23.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NBut I think in mentioning\NEltenton's name,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.38,0:46:26.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I essentially said that\Nhe may be acting in a way
Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.35,0:46:27.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}which is dangerous to the country
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.78,0:46:29.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}and which should be watched.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.98,0:46:33.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I'm not going to mention \Nanyone else's name in the same breath.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.16,0:46:35.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}I just can't do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.90,0:46:44.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer quickly put\Nthe whole incident behind him.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.54,0:46:46.90,Default,,0,0,0,,There was too much work to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.02,0:46:51.86,Default,,0,0,0,,Los Alamos was growing into a bustling town
Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.98,0:46:53.31,Default,,0,0,0,,with thousands of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.76,0:47:00.80,Default,,0,0,0,,He had wildly underestimated\Nthe magnitude of the job.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.30,0:47:02.62,Default,,0,0,0,,But he was thriving.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.16,0:47:06.32,Default,,0,0,0,,In spite of the initial doubts\Nof his scientific colleagues,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.54,0:47:08.66,Default,,0,0,0,,he was proving that he was more than up
Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.66,0:47:10.30,Default,,0,0,0,,to the enormous task.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.44,0:47:14.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe showed an ability\Nto motivate and inspire
Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.26,0:47:17.02,Default,,0,0,0,,that, I think, surprised everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.42,0:47:20.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NEveryone loved him\Nbecause he was everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.98,0:47:23.50,Default,,0,0,0,,He understood all of these
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.12,0:47:25.50,Default,,0,0,0,,absurdly
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.86,0:47:28.36,Default,,0,0,0,,difficult and intractable problems,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.96,0:47:31.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and he often had witty things to say \Nabout them.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.54,0:47:35.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HAROLD AGNEW,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe had a certain charisma,\Na certain charm,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.58,0:47:37.24,Default,,0,0,0,,a certain flair.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.68,0:47:41.04,Default,,0,0,0,,He had a robin's egg blue convertible Cadillac, \Nyou know.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.04,0:47:43.84,Default,,0,0,0,,And if you're a young kid,\Nand here's the boss,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.84,0:47:46.66,Default,,0,0,0,,and he's driving around\Nwith his porkpie hat
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.66,0:47:50.32,Default,,0,0,0,,and his tweed jacket\Nand cigarette always,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.32,0:47:51.52,Default,,0,0,0,,you know, like in the movies.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.52,0:47:52.84,Default,,0,0,0,,You know, you're impressed.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.54,0:47:55.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NOppenheimer inspired everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.24,0:47:58.86,Default,,0,0,0,,He expressed the intellectual essence
Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.86,0:48:00.37,Default,,0,0,0,,of what we were doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.26,0:48:03.44,Default,,0,0,0,,the deepest sense of what it was.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.88,0:48:07.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NI don't know in retrospect\Nwho could have done it better;
Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.46,0:48:09.16,Default,,0,0,0,,who could have pulled that gang--
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.42,0:48:11.95,Default,,0,0,0,,80% of which were prima donnas of their own.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.42,0:48:14.28,Default,,0,0,0,,Could have pulled that gang together and
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.28,0:48:16.14,Default,,0,0,0,,and made them work\Nas a... as a unit.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.32,0:48:25.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NIn being the director of this historic laboratory,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:26.28,0:48:30.84,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer found his greatest\Nand most natural role.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.77,0:48:34.44,Default,,0,0,0,,He was cruel to people\Nbefore the war.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.20,0:48:37.64,Default,,0,0,0,,He was cruel to people\Nafter the war,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.96,0:48:40.24,Default,,0,0,0,,but he wasn't cruel to people\Nduring the war.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.38,0:48:44.04,Default,,0,0,0,,The period at Los Alamos\Nwas the only time in his life
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.16,0:48:46.88,Default,,0,0,0,,when he wasn't plagued\Nby existential doubt,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.06,0:48:50.64,Default,,0,0,0,,when all the parts came together\Nand worked together.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.82,0:48:54.16,Default,,0,0,0,,It was the first chance\Nhe'd ever had
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.16,0:48:57.18,Default,,0,0,0,,to serve the country\Nand forget himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.72,0:49:02.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer shaped an array\Nof brilliant,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.44,0:49:05.18,Default,,0,0,0,,eccentric scientists\Ninto a team.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.92,0:49:10.28,Default,,0,0,0,,The Hungarian refugee \N Edward Teller was his biggest problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.48,0:49:16.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NTeller was always an ebullient scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.94,0:49:19.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Very bright, quite impatient.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.12,0:49:22.38,Default,,0,0,0,,When I showed up at Los Alamos,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.16,0:49:27.84,Default,,0,0,0,,I saw this name chalked next to the door:
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.58,0:49:30.20,Default,,0,0,0,,E. Teller,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.28,0:49:32.04,Default,,0,0,0,,but there was no one in the office.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.28,0:49:36.34,Default,,0,0,0,,I learned that\Nhe was rather unhappy
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.34,0:49:40.02,Default,,0,0,0,,that he had not been chosen \Nas leader of the theory division
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.02,0:49:42.44,Default,,0,0,0,,and had gone off in a huff.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.58,0:49:48.38,Default,,0,0,0,,His passion from the very first\Nwas to create
Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.58,0:49:51.30,Default,,0,0,0,,what he called "the Zupa,"\Nthe super-bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.82,0:49:54.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The "super" was a hydrogen bomb,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.00,0:49:58.20,Default,,0,0,0,,a weapon with nearly \Nunlimited destructive power.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:58.36,0:50:00.20,Default,,0,0,0,,But since a hydrogen bomb would need
Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.20,0:50:02.26,Default,,0,0,0,,an atomic bomb to set it off,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.50,0:50:05.90,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer gave Teller's super a low priority.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.08,0:50:09.04,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer, said, \N"No, no, we got enough on our hands.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:09.26,0:50:10.84,Default,,0,0,0,,"We're not going to,\Nwe're not going to...
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.96,0:50:13.36,Default,,0,0,0,,"we got to make the hy...\Nwe got to make the atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.36,0:50:14.34,Default,,0,0,0,,"That's what we're going to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:14.34,0:50:15.41,Default,,0,0,0,,"That's our job
Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.62,0:50:17.36,Default,,0,0,0,,and that's what\Nwe're going to focus on."
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.48,0:50:18.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Teller threatened to quit
Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.01,0:50:22.84,Default,,0,0,0,,until Oppenheimer relented\Nand let him work independently
Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.84,0:50:25.76,Default,,0,0,0,,to try and design his super-bomb,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.54,0:50:29.30,Default,,0,0,0,,but there would always be\Nbad blood between them.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.60,0:50:30.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NTeller was obsessive.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.20,0:50:33.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe would not accept Oppenheimer's judgment
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.80,0:50:35.74,Default,,0,0,0,,about the feasibility of this project.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.98,0:50:38.14,Default,,0,0,0,,He was not a crackpot\Nor anything like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.76,0:50:40.80,Default,,0,0,0,,He was an excellent physicist,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:41.72,0:50:45.34,Default,,0,0,0,,but he got off on something\Nthat was simply wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.72,0:50:47.24,Default,,0,0,0,,and he couldn't let it go.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.64,0:50:49.54,Default,,0,0,0,,Teller never forgave Oppenheimer,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.54,0:50:50.60,Default,,0,0,0,,and, uh...
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.12,0:50:53.24,Default,,0,0,0,,he paid him back...
Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.62,0:50:56.85,Default,,0,0,0,,unfortunately.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.10,0:51:02.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}By summer of 1944,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.22,0:51:04.52,Default,,0,0,0,,the enormous burden of responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.70,0:51:06.40,Default,,0,0,0,,had begun to take its toll.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.28,0:51:10.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Losing weight, \Nafflicted with a rasping cough,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.88,0:51:13.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer chain-smoked his way
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.00,0:51:15.32,Default,,0,0,0,,through increasingly demanding months.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.90,0:51:19.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Kitty was an additional burden.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.74,0:51:22.90,Default,,0,0,0,,She refused to take on the role\Nof the director's wife
Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.34,0:51:25.74,Default,,0,0,0,,and found herself at loose ends.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.76,0:51:28.74,Default,,0,0,0,,After their second child was born
Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.74,0:51:32.14,Default,,0,0,0,,in the Los Alamos Hospital,\Na girl they named Toni,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.92,0:51:35.02,Default,,0,0,0,,she became even more distracted.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.08,0:51:37.42,Default,,0,0,0,,She was drinking hard,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.76,0:51:39.72,Default,,0,0,0,,on the verge of emotional collapse
Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.80,0:51:42.03,Default,,0,0,0,,while Oppenheimer was preoccupied,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.48,0:51:44.66,Default,,0,0,0,,desperately pushing the project forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.58,0:51:48.17,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}For me it was a time so filled with work,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.40,0:51:52.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}with the need for decision\Nand action and consultation,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.56,0:51:54.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}there was room for little else.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.82,0:51:57.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThey had to invent all these new technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.16,0:51:59.70,Default,,0,0,0,,in these very short months
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.70,0:52:02.58,Default,,0,0,0,,from the summer of '44\Nto the summer of '45.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.86,0:52:04.76,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer nearly broke down.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.30,0:52:07.12,Default,,0,0,0,,He was really depressed.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.12,0:52:08.28,Default,,0,0,0,,He thought he'd blown it.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.54,0:52:11.62,Default,,0,0,0,,He thought they had found themselves at a dead end.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.04,0:52:13.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIt was devilishly difficult
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.66,0:52:15.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\Ngrappling with problems
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.12,0:52:17.32,Default,,0,0,0,,which were on the edge of absurdity.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.80,0:52:19.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Just imagine trying to find out
Dialogue: 0,0:52:19.68,0:52:22.04,Default,,0,0,0,,what's going on within an explosion
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.04,0:52:25.22,Default,,0,0,0,,all of which is over in less\Nthan a thousandth of a second.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.50,0:52:27.81,Default,,0,0,0,,He seriously considered\Nleaving the project,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.22,0:52:30.38,Default,,0,0,0,,and one of his friends\Nfinally took him aside
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.38,0:52:31.54,Default,,0,0,0,,and said, "Robert, you can't leave.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.54,0:52:33.06,Default,,0,0,0,,"You're the only person\Nwho can make this happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.36,0:52:35.34,Default,,0,0,0,,You have to stay.\NI don't care what you think."
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.68,0:52:36.64,Default,,0,0,0,,And he did stay.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.14,0:52:39.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}The consensus of all our opinions
Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.86,0:52:41.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and every directive I had
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.36,0:52:44.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}stressed the extreme urgency\Nof the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.78,0:52:48.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Time and time again\Nwe had in the technical work
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.20,0:52:50.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}almost paralyzing crises.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.16,0:52:53.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Time and again \Nthe laboratory drew itself together
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.20,0:52:57.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and we faced the new problems\Nand got on with the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.54,0:52:59.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}We worked by night and by day.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.00,0:53:04.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}While Oppenheimer and his team raced on,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.12,0:53:07.38,Default,,0,0,0,,the war against Japan and Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.54,0:53:09.46,Default,,0,0,0,,was reaching a bloody climax.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.28,0:53:12.82,Default,,0,0,0,,On May 7, 1945,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.32,0:53:14.82,Default,,0,0,0,,the Nazis surrendered.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.52,0:53:19.04,Default,,0,0,0,,The race with Germany to build the bomb was over.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.52,0:53:31.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NWe had joined this project fearing that the Germans
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.44,0:53:34.04,Default,,0,0,0,,were working on trying to produce a bomb
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.04,0:53:37.44,Default,,0,0,0,,and if they succeeded\Nin reaching it before we did,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.44,0:53:39.84,Default,,0,0,0,,they wouldn't be \Nvery sentimental about using it.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.66,0:53:43.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NWhen Germany surrenders,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.52,0:53:46.70,Default,,0,0,0,,the bomb is several months away\Nfrom being built.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.82,0:53:49.08,Default,,0,0,0,,And the question is,\Nshould we continue?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.52,0:53:51.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Is it the right thing to do?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.02,0:53:51.94,Default,,0,0,0,,Is it ethical?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.58,0:53:58.62,Default,,0,0,0,,We never heard any suggestion\Nfrom Oppenheimer that uh...
Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.40,0:54:02.12,Default,,0,0,0,,there was any course other \Nthan continuing.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.74,0:54:05.16,Default,,0,0,0,,There was a kind of momentum involved
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.24,0:54:08.88,Default,,0,0,0,,in our efforts in this direction.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.88,0:54:10.60,Default,,0,0,0,,It was an enormous project.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.60,0:54:13.16,Default,,0,0,0,,We were all deeply involved in
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.88,0:54:16.50,Default,,0,0,0,,finding out whether the darn thing would work.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.98,0:54:19.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}When you see something\Nthat is technically sweet,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.56,0:54:21.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}you go ahead and do it
Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.68,0:54:23.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and you argue about\Nwhat to do about it
Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.84,0:54:26.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}only after you have had\Nyour technical success.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.48,0:54:30.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Caught up in the momentum of the project,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.00,0:54:34.26,Default,,0,0,0,,driven by the desire \Nto finish the job he had begun,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.80,0:54:37.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer was determined to see it through.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.66,0:54:41.50,Default,,0,0,0,,"This might help to convince everybody," \Nhe argued,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.68,0:54:43.82,Default,,0,0,0,,"that the next war would be fatal.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.68,0:54:45.70,Default,,0,0,0,,"For this purpose,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.70,0:54:47.28,Default,,0,0,0,,actual combat use
Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.66,0:54:49.18,Default,,0,0,0,,might even be the best thing."
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.32,0:54:53.68,Default,,0,0,0,,He rejected the idea\N of demonstrating the bomb first.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.90,0:54:57.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HERBERT YORK,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIf you have a demonstration,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.72,0:55:00.46,Default,,0,0,0,,what it is\Nis a fantastic firework
Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.90,0:55:02.30,Default,,0,0,0,,with nobody getting hurt.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.78,0:55:04.62,Default,,0,0,0,,What's important about nuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.62,0:55:07.08,Default,,0,0,0,,is not that it's fantastic fireworks.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.42,0:55:09.10,Default,,0,0,0,,What's important about nuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.10,0:55:10.58,Default,,0,0,0,,is the fact they kill people.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.94,0:55:15.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On May 31, 1945,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.62,0:55:17.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer joined a meeting
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.22,0:55:19.08,Default,,0,0,0,,of high-ranking government officials,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.08,0:55:21.36,Default,,0,0,0,,scientists and military men.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.76,0:55:25.16,Default,,0,0,0,,It was agreed that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.28,0:55:27.12,Default,,0,0,0,,"the most desirable target
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.12,0:55:28.75,Default,,0,0,0,,"was a vital war plant
Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.08,0:55:31.52,Default,,0,0,0,,"employing a large number of workers
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.52,0:55:34.13,Default,,0,0,0,,and closely surrounded by workers' houses."
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.84,0:55:37.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer made no objection.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.80,0:55:42.08,Default,,0,0,0,,What worried him \Nwas whether the bomb would work.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.46,0:55:50.94,Default,,0,0,0,,The answer would come \Nin New Mexico's Alamogordo desert,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.30,0:55:54.94,Default,,0,0,0,,the place the Spanish had called\Nthe {\i1}Jornada del Muerto,{\i}
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.80,0:55:57.06,Default,,0,0,0,,"The Journey of Death."
Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.64,0:56:25.02,Default,,0,0,0,,On July 15,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.28,0:56:28.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer climbed\Na 110-foot tower
Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.16,0:56:29.86,Default,,0,0,0,,for one last look at the bomb.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.00,0:56:32.86,Default,,0,0,0,,It would be tested the next day.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.44,0:56:37.34,Default,,0,0,0,,He was down to 115 pounds,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.50,0:56:39.42,Default,,0,0,0,,tense, on edge.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.50,0:56:43.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NThere was great tension about the test,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.24,0:56:46.16,Default,,0,0,0,,great uncertainty\Nwhether it would work
Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.17,0:56:48.80,Default,,0,0,0,,or produce a pathetic fizzle.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.10,0:56:52.02,Default,,0,0,0,,This had never been done before,\Nand it was a...
Dialogue: 0,0:56:52.18,0:56:55.32,Default,,0,0,0,,no one had a clear picture at all \Nof what to expect.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.88,0:57:01.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The evening before the test,\Nsomeone recalled,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.70,0:57:04.84,Default,,0,0,0,,"The frogs had gathered\Nin a little pond by the camp
Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.02,0:57:08.06,Default,,0,0,0,,and copulated and squawked\Nall night long."
Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.18,0:57:12.38,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer chain-smoked nervously
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.88,0:57:16.36,Default,,0,0,0,,and sat quietly \Nreading the French poet Baudelaire.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.78,0:57:19.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NSeductive twilight,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.00,0:57:21.48,Default,,0,0,0,,the criminal's friend.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.14,0:57:23.64,Default,,0,0,0,,Silent like a wolf.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:24.38,0:57:26.26,Default,,0,0,0,,The sky is closing down.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.04,0:57:30.74,Default,,0,0,0,,A dark cloth drawn\Nacross an alcove.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.30,0:57:34.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Where the impatient man changes
Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.52,0:57:36.56,Default,,0,0,0,,into a beast of prey.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.66,0:57:42.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}At 5:10, the countdown began
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.16,0:57:45.19,Default,,0,0,0,,at zero minus 20 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.62,0:57:53.22,Default,,0,0,0,,As loudspeakers ticked off the time \Nat five-minute intervals,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.44,0:57:56.32,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer wandered \Nin and out of the control bunker,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.44,0:57:57.76,Default,,0,0,0,,glancing up at the sky.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.42,0:58:00.76,Default,,0,0,0,,At the two-minute mark,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:00.94,0:58:02.66,Default,,0,0,0,,he was heard to say to himself,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.54,0:58:06.50,Default,,0,0,0,,"Lord, \Nthese affairs are hard on the heart."
Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.00,0:58:10.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Minus one minute.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.94,0:58:13.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Minus 55 seconds.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.92,0:58:17.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NWe were given a piece of welder's glass
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.46,0:58:18.92,Default,,0,0,0,,to hold in front of our eyes,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.92,0:58:22.00,Default,,0,0,0,,so that we could look at it\Nwithout being blinded.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.34,0:58:25.92,Default,,0,0,0,,It was pitch-dark outside,\Njust before dawn.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.30,0:58:27.38,Default,,0,0,0,,A lot of tension.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.92,0:58:35.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer lay on his stomach,\Nhis face dreamy, withdrawn.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.90,0:58:39.60,Default,,0,0,0,,"He grew tenser \Nas the last seconds ticked off,"
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.78,0:58:41.42,Default,,0,0,0,,an Army general remembered.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.76,0:58:43.18,Default,,0,0,0,,"He scarcely breathed.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:44.08,0:58:45.48,Default,,0,0,0,,"For the last few seconds,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.86,0:58:47.44,Default,,0,0,0,,he stared directly ahead."
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.46,0:58:56.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.14,0:59:05.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NThere was a brilliant flash\Nlike daylight outside.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.16,0:59:09.56,Default,,0,0,0,,Suddenly, from pitch-dark\Nto daylight over a huge area.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.26,0:59:13.24,Default,,0,0,0,,There was this rapidly expanding\Nglowing sphere
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.24,0:59:15.96,Default,,0,0,0,,with swirling,\Ndark clouds in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.28,0:59:20.54,Default,,0,0,0,,And finally as it dimmed,\Nyou could see on the outside
Dialogue: 0,0:59:20.88,0:59:22.69,Default,,0,0,0,,a faint blue glow.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:23.26,0:59:24.94,Default,,0,0,0,,It was simply fantastic.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:28.68,0:59:31.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}"It worked," was all that Oppenheimer said.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:33.04,0:59:33.90,Default,,0,0,0,,"It worked."
Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.78,0:59:36.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROY J. GLAUBER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NWe were just awestruck.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.58,0:59:38.40,Default,,0,0,0,,There it was.\NIt had happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.94,0:59:41.32,Default,,0,0,0,,The test was evidently a success.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.78,0:59:46.12,Default,,0,0,0,,But we had no idea\N when the next thing would happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.18,0:59:49.46,Default,,0,0,0,,Nobody had said to us
Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.46,0:59:52.12,Default,,0,0,0,,that a bomb had already been shipped out.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.56,0:59:55.28,Default,,0,0,0,,There was total silence,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.28,0:59:56.54,Default,,0,0,0,,fear and tension.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.54,0:59:57.82,Default,,0,0,0,,Now we're into something.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.82,1:00:01.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Now \Nwho knows what's going to ensue?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.88,1:00:04.22,Default,,0,0,0,,We heard not a single word
Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.10,1:00:06.70,Default,,0,0,0,,until the sixth of August.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.22,1:00:12.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:00:16.56,1:00:19.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On August 6, 1945,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.46,1:00:23.20,Default,,0,0,0,,the United States \Nexploded an atomic bomb over Hiroshima,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.78,1:00:26.80,Default,,0,0,0,,a city with a population of 350,000.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.06,1:00:30.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Even before the blast,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.70,1:00:32.88,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer had been darkly mourning.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.62,1:00:35.98,Default,,0,0,0,,"Those poor little people,"\Nhe said.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.90,1:00:38.30,Default,,0,0,0,,"Those poor little people."
Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.46,1:00:43.32,Default,,0,0,0,,Yet, he had given the military\Nprecise instructions
Dialogue: 0,1:00:43.32,1:00:46.50,Default,,0,0,0,,to ensure that the weapon\Nwould be delivered on target.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.02,1:00:50.12,Default,,0,0,0,,"No radar bombing," he wrote.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.24,1:00:51.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"It must be dropped visually.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:52.34,1:00:54.54,Default,,0,0,0,,"Don't let them detonate it too high
Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.54,1:00:57.06,Default,,0,0,0,,or the target won't get as much damage."
Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.94,1:01:05.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer was of two minds.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.20,1:01:08.20,Default,,0,0,0,,His success had been exhilarating,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:08.62,1:01:11.42,Default,,0,0,0,,but he was in anguish\Nover the human costs.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.82,1:01:16.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThere's no doubt that\Nthere was ambivalence about it.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.08,1:01:21.50,Default,,0,0,0,,I think Oppenheimer saw the question\Nin all its complexity.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.32,1:01:23.84,Default,,0,0,0,,It wasn't so simple as,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.84,1:01:26.34,Default,,0,0,0,,"Was he guilty about\N building such a weapon?"
Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.06,1:01:31.26,Default,,0,0,0,,He understood that \Nthe bomb was going to change history.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.56,1:01:34.28,Default,,0,0,0,,He might have hoped\Nthat there was some other way
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.28,1:01:37.14,Default,,0,0,0,,to demonstrate its effectiveness.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.98,1:01:39.30,Default,,0,0,0,,They knew what they were making.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.30,1:01:40.80,Default,,0,0,0,,They knew it was going\Nto kill a lot of people.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.80,1:01:42.40,Default,,0,0,0,,They didn't like that aspect of it,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.94,1:01:44.03,Default,,0,0,0,,but there you were.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.50,1:01:46.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:01:50.88,1:01:52.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The second atomic bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.50,1:01:55.46,Default,,0,0,0,,exploded over Nagasaki\Non August 9,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.76,1:01:59.18,Default,,0,0,0,,left him morose,\Nconsumed by doubts,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.60,1:02:01.56,Default,,0,0,0,,fast sinking into depression.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.46,1:02:05.76,Default,,0,0,0,,"This undertaking,"\Nhe wrote a friend,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.96,1:02:08.16,Default,,0,0,0,,"has not been without its misgivings.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.88,1:02:10.60,Default,,0,0,0,,"They are heavy on us today,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:11.50,1:02:12.56,Default,,0,0,0,,"when the future,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.04,1:02:15.83,Default,,0,0,0,,"which has so many elements of high promise,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.38,1:02:19.28,Default,,0,0,0,,is yet only a stone's throw from despair."
Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.00,1:02:34.62,Default,,0,0,0,,"Some of you will have seen photographs
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.62,1:02:36.26,Default,,0,0,0,,of the Nagasaki strike,"
Dialogue: 0,1:02:36.26,1:02:38.88,Default,,0,0,0,,he told the American Philosophical Society
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.88,1:02:40.52,Default,,0,0,0,,three months after the blast.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.24,1:02:44.16,Default,,0,0,0,,"Seen the great steel girders of factories
Dialogue: 0,1:02:44.16,1:02:46.22,Default,,0,0,0,,twisted and wrecked."
Dialogue: 0,1:02:48.46,1:02:51.08,Default,,0,0,0,,"Atomic weapons are weapons of aggression,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:51.32,1:02:53.88,Default,,0,0,0,,"of surprise, and of terror.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:54.88,1:02:56.70,Default,,0,0,0,,"If they are ever used again,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:56.90,1:02:58.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"it may well be by the thousands,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:59.68,1:03:02.72,Default,,0,0,0,,or perhaps by the tens of thousands."
Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.10,1:03:10.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NHe was a great supporter of using the bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.86,1:03:13.52,Default,,0,0,0,,but he understood all along
Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.86,1:03:19.74,Default,,0,0,0,,that he was on the cusp\Nof a new terror...
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.00,1:03:23.09,Default,,0,0,0,,...even at the moment
Dialogue: 0,1:03:23.44,1:03:27.00,Default,,0,0,0,,when the scientists believed
Dialogue: 0,1:03:27.00,1:03:28.74,Default,,0,0,0,,that there was no other choice.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.76,1:03:35.18,Default,,0,0,0,,They knew that \Nmost of the people killed were civilians.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.18,1:03:37.72,Default,,0,0,0,,They knew that the targets
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.72,1:03:40.48,Default,,0,0,0,,for these bombs were the centers of cities.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.82,1:03:45.20,Default,,0,0,0,,It's a very heavy burden
Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.38,1:03:48.08,Default,,0,0,0,,that he carries into the postwar period,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.22,1:03:51.00,Default,,0,0,0,,after Hiroshima and Nagasaki are destroyed.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.98,1:03:55.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I have been asked\Nwhether in the years to come,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.86,1:03:59.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}it will be possible to kill \N40 million American people
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.18,1:04:02.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}in the 20 largest American towns
Dialogue: 0,1:04:03.74,1:04:07.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}by the use of atomic bombs\Nin a single night.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:07.76,1:04:10.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I am afraid that \Nthe answer to that question is yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.02,1:04:15.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:\N{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1945,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:15.54,1:04:17.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}America was the only country in the world
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.86,1:04:19.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}with the atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.96,1:04:23.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}President Harry Truman believed\Nthat national security
Dialogue: 0,1:04:23.34,1:04:26.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}depended on keeping\Nnuclear technology secret.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:32.22,1:04:36.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Oppenheimer, along with nearly\Nevery other nuclear scientist,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.24,1:04:37.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}disagreed.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.30,1:04:41.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER, {\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}(TV Archive):{\i0}\NI have been asked whether \Nthere is hope for the nation's security
Dialogue: 0,1:04:42.76,1:04:45.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}in keeping secret some of the knowledge
Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.14,1:04:47.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}which has gone\Ninto the making of the bombs.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.62,1:04:50.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I am afraid\Nthere is no such hope.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.02,1:04:53.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NPresident Truman\Nreally did seem to feel
Dialogue: 0,1:04:53.94,1:04:55.94,Default,,0,0,0,,that if you just\Nkept the lid on enough,
Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.94,1:04:57.24,Default,,0,0,0,,we'd always have the secret
Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.24,1:04:58.68,Default,,0,0,0,,and no one else would ever get it.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.36,1:05:00.40,Default,,0,0,0,,There wasn't any secret.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:00.40,1:05:01.66,Default,,0,0,0,,The secret was it worked.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:08.00,1:05:10.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On October 25, 1945,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:11.18,1:05:13.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer met\Nwith President Truman
Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.36,1:05:14.82,Default,,0,0,0,,to share his concerns.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:19.06,1:05:21.06,Default,,0,0,0,,When the president assured his visitor
Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.06,1:05:23.45,Default,,0,0,0,,that the Soviets\Nwould never get the bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:23.92,1:05:25.84,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer became frustrated.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:27.24,1:05:28.92,Default,,0,0,0,,"Mr. President," he said,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:29.48,1:05:31.68,Default,,0,0,0,,"I feel I have blood on my hands."
Dialogue: 0,1:05:32.40,1:05:35.16,Default,,0,0,0,,"Blood on his hands,"\NTruman complained later.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.88,1:05:39.18,Default,,0,0,0,,"Damn it, \Nhe hasn't half as much blood on his hands as I have.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.52,1:05:41.94,Default,,0,0,0,,You just don't go around\Nbellyaching about it."
Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.44,1:05:45.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NIt's not surprising
Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.48,1:05:47.96,Default,,0,0,0,,Truman just about threw him out of his office.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.08,1:05:49.42,Default,,0,0,0,,It was the president's decision.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:49.42,1:05:51.04,Default,,0,0,0,,It wasn't Oppenheimer's decision.
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.02,1:05:54.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Later,\N Truman told his secretary of state,
Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.70,1:05:58.66,Default,,0,0,0,,"I don't want to see that son of a bitch\Nin this office again."
Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.62,1:06:05.22,Default,,0,0,0,,In the years after the war,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:05.50,1:06:07.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Robert Oppenheimer's fame grew.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.40,1:06:10.52,Default,,0,0,0,,His name became a household word.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:11.30,1:06:13.74,Default,,0,0,0,,He was "the father of the A-bomb,"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:13.92,1:06:17.04,Default,,0,0,0,,the government's top advisor\Non atomic weapons,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.06,1:06:19.98,Default,,0,0,0,,privy to all the nation's atomic secrets.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:21.18,1:06:22.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HERBERT YORK,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe was instantly famous.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.72,1:06:25.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\c&H03DEF8&}Nuclear weapons, nuclear energy
Dialogue: 0,1:06:25.56,1:06:26.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\c&H03DEF8&}and new things
Dialogue: 0,1:06:26.56,1:06:28.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\c&H03DEF8&}such a surprise to nearly everyone,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.78,1:06:30.60,Default,,0,0,0,,that it was very widespread
Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.60,1:06:32.60,Default,,0,0,0,,to ask your local physicists,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.60,1:06:35.36,Default,,0,0,0,,"What does this all mean\Nand what should we do?"
Dialogue: 0,1:06:35.52,1:06:37.52,Default,,0,0,0,,You know the Rotary clubs did it,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.92,1:06:41.46,Default,,0,0,0,,the Kiwanis did it,\Nthe PTAs, I mean, everybody.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:41.68,1:06:44.12,Default,,0,0,0,,And not only that,\Nwhenever there was a...
Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.12,1:06:45.70,Default,,0,0,0,,anything in the papers about it,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.82,1:06:48.12,Default,,0,0,0,,it was always a "brilliant nuclear physicist."
Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.12,1:06:49.62,Default,,0,0,0,,There was no other kind.
Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.34,1:06:52.74,Default,,0,0,0,,Now,\N Oppenheimer was right at the top of it,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.04,1:06:55.24,Default,,0,0,0,,so it was the president\Nor the Congress
Dialogue: 0,1:06:55.24,1:06:57.36,Default,,0,0,0,,or the senators or the UN,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:57.62,1:06:58.68,Default,,0,0,0,,you know, who asked him,
Dialogue: 0,1:06:58.68,1:07:00.48,Default,,0,0,0,,and for whom he gave his advice.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.12,1:07:02.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe was interested in power.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:02.70,1:07:04.22,Default,,0,0,0,,He was drawn to it.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:04.54,1:07:08.64,Default,,0,0,0,,He wanted to have a say\Nin what became of those weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.44,1:07:12.06,Default,,0,0,0,,He wasn't going \Nto go back down on the farm
Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.38,1:07:14.06,Default,,0,0,0,,after he'd seen Paris.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:14.70,1:07:17.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe realized that he might turn this fame and power
Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.96,1:07:19.92,Default,,0,0,0,,into statesmanship.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.46,1:07:23.64,Default,,0,0,0,,That he might become \Nthe sort of philosopher-scientist,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:23.64,1:07:25.32,Default,,0,0,0,,and philosopher-statesman,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:25.32,1:07:28.64,Default,,0,0,0,,who could bring \Nthe rest of the message to government
Dialogue: 0,1:07:28.78,1:07:31.06,Default,,0,0,0,,about how you go about eliminating
Dialogue: 0,1:07:31.06,1:07:32.44,Default,,0,0,0,,nuclear weapons in the world.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:33.04,1:07:34.92,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer was naive in that.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:35.02,1:07:37.48,Default,,0,0,0,,He really thought that if he got inside,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:37.98,1:07:39.50,Default,,0,0,0,,he could change things.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:39.98,1:07:41.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Immediately after the war,
Dialogue: 0,1:07:42.00,1:07:44.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I was deeply involved in the effort
Dialogue: 0,1:07:44.80,1:07:46.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}to devise effective means
Dialogue: 0,1:07:46.66,1:07:49.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}for the international control\Nof atomic weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.88,1:07:53.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1946, \NOppenheimer hammered out the details
Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.64,1:07:55.18,Default,,0,0,0,,of a visionary proposal
Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.30,1:07:58.47,Default,,0,0,0,,with some of America's most\N distinguished statesmen.
Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.12,1:08:01.66,Default,,0,0,0,,The plan was designed\Nto put atomic energy
Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.66,1:08:04.38,Default,,0,0,0,,into the hands of an international agency,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.60,1:08:08.10,Default,,0,0,0,,controlling uranium mines,\Natomic power plants
Dialogue: 0,1:08:08.28,1:08:09.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and atomic laboratories.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.12,1:08:12.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HERBERT YORK,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIt involved giving up nuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:08:12.58,1:08:16.16,Default,,0,0,0,,and internationalizing\Nthe entire nuclear enterprise.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:16.62,1:08:18.28,Default,,0,0,0,,And Oppenheimer writes,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.28,1:08:21.78,Default,,0,0,0,,"We know that people will say,\N'This is impossible.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.78,1:08:23.18,Default,,0,0,0,,You can't do this.'
Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.66,1:08:25.90,Default,,0,0,0,,Our answer is, 'We must.'"
Dialogue: 0,1:08:28.94,1:08:32.30,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But Oppenheimer's hope for an international accord
Dialogue: 0,1:08:32.46,1:08:35.54,Default,,0,0,0,,that would lead\Nto the elimination of nuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.54,1:08:37.46,Default,,0,0,0,,was facing fierce resistance,
Dialogue: 0,1:08:38.02,1:08:40.40,Default,,0,0,0,,foundering on the deepening antagonisms
Dialogue: 0,1:08:40.40,1:08:42.22,Default,,0,0,0,,between two former allies:
Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.64,1:08:45.54,Default,,0,0,0,,the Soviet Union\Nand the United States.
Dialogue: 0,1:08:51.58,1:08:53.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NOppenheimer believed that
Dialogue: 0,1:08:53.46,1:08:55.18,Default,,0,0,0,,if we could figure out
Dialogue: 0,1:08:55.84,1:08:58.94,Default,,0,0,0,,how to create a postwar period
Dialogue: 0,1:08:58.94,1:09:02.44,Default,,0,0,0,,in which the foundation\Nof international affairs
Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.74,1:09:05.12,Default,,0,0,0,,was U.S. - Soviet cooperation,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:05.32,1:09:07.42,Default,,0,0,0,,the world would be a very different place.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:09.80,1:09:13.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But the Soviet Army \Nalready occupied much of Eastern Europe.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:14.50,1:09:17.80,Default,,0,0,0,,Americans feared that Western Europe \Nmight be overrun.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.30,1:09:22.60,Default,,0,0,0,,Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin\Nhad fears of his own.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.18,1:09:26.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThe Soviet Union was not about\Nto let the United States
Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.32,1:09:28.28,Default,,0,0,0,,have a monopoly on these weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.52,1:09:29.78,Default,,0,0,0,,They didn't trust us,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.38,1:09:32.34,Default,,0,0,0,,with reason.\NWe had, after all,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:32.46,1:09:34.16,Default,,0,0,0,,built a weapon in secret,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.26,1:09:38.28,Default,,0,0,0,,telling our allies, Great Britain, \Nbut not telling our allies, the Soviet Union
Dialogue: 0,1:09:38.46,1:09:40.16,Default,,0,0,0,,and actually used the thing
Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.92,1:09:42.94,Default,,0,0,0,,on an enemy population.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.38,1:09:45.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Stalin had every reason to believe
Dialogue: 0,1:09:45.16,1:09:46.84,Default,,0,0,0,,that we would use it on him.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.10,1:09:50.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In the face of opposition
Dialogue: 0,1:09:50.54,1:09:53.10,Default,,0,0,0,,from both the Soviets and the Americans,
Dialogue: 0,1:09:53.40,1:09:56.84,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer's plan\Nto internationalize nuclear energy
Dialogue: 0,1:09:57.20,1:09:58.34,Default,,0,0,0,, went nowhere.
Dialogue: 0,1:09:59.06,1:10:01.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NSo, it was a brilliant and radical
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.08,1:10:04.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and evidently premature idea.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:05.06,1:10:07.50,Default,,0,0,0,,Because national sovereignty \Ntrumped everything.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:08.28,1:10:15.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:10:15.92,1:10:18.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On July 1, 1946,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.86,1:10:22.88,Default,,0,0,0,,the United States \Ntested a 21,000-ton atomic bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:23.28,1:10:27.00,Default,,0,0,0,,exploding it in Bikini Atoll\Nin the Pacific Ocean.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.86,1:10:31.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Two months before, \NOppenheimer had written President Truman
Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.36,1:10:33.28,Default,,0,0,0,,a letter opposing the tests.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.24,1:10:35.66,Default,,0,0,0,,Truman paid no attention,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:35.98,1:10:39.34,Default,,0,0,0,,calling Oppenheimer\N"that crybaby scientist."
Dialogue: 0,1:10:41.04,1:10:43.86,Default,,0,0,0,,By now, \NOppenheimer was disillusioned
Dialogue: 0,1:10:43.86,1:10:45.36,Default,,0,0,0,,with America's efforts
Dialogue: 0,1:10:45.36,1:10:47.74,Default,,0,0,0,,to eliminate the threat of nuclear weapons,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.88,1:10:50.82,Default,,0,0,0,,but he was even \Nmore disillusioned with the Russians.
Dialogue: 0,1:10:51.16,1:10:55.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe saw how intransigent\Nthe Russians were going to be,
Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.70,1:10:57.80,Default,,0,0,0,,and he went into another mode
Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.20,1:11:01.30,Default,,0,0,0,,in his thinking about \Nwhat should be done about the bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:01.46,1:11:04.60,Default,,0,0,0,,He felt that what you had to do...
Dialogue: 0,1:11:04.60,1:11:07.34,Default,,0,0,0,,instead of you had to accomplish the impossible,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.44,1:11:10.64,Default,,0,0,0,,what you had to do\Nwas accomplish another impossibility,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.80,1:11:13.56,Default,,0,0,0,,and that is live successfully and peacefully
Dialogue: 0,1:11:13.56,1:11:15.00,Default,,0,0,0,,with nuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:18.70,1:11:21.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}That fall, Oppenheimer was made a key advisor
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.98,1:11:24.68,Default,,0,0,0,,to the newly created\NAtomic Energy Commission.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.40,1:11:28.12,Default,,0,0,0,,As chairman of its\NGeneral Advisory Committee,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.48,1:11:32.36,Default,,0,0,0,,he reached what he described\Nas a "melancholy" conclusion.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.50,1:11:38.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NAs the prospects of success receded
Dialogue: 0,1:11:38.48,1:11:40.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and as the evidence of Soviet hostility
Dialogue: 0,1:11:40.94,1:11:43.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and growing military power accumulated,
Dialogue: 0,1:11:43.58,1:11:45.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}we were more and more to devote ourselves
Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.84,1:11:50.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}to finding ways of adapting our atomic potential\Nto offset the Soviet threat.
Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.30,1:11:54.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We concluded \Nthat the principal job of the Commission
Dialogue: 0,1:11:54.46,1:11:56.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}was to provide atomic weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.72,1:11:58.76,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and good atomic weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:11:58.76,1:12:00.71,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and many atomic weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.88,1:12:07.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer was now a scientific statesman.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.66,1:12:11.02,Default,,0,0,0,,He had little time\Nto be a scientist.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.38,1:12:15.76,Default,,0,0,0,,After the war, \Nhe had given up teaching
Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.76,1:12:20.26,Default,,0,0,0,,to become the director \Nof the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:20.92,1:12:23.34,Default,,0,0,0,,a center for theoretical research,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:23.42,1:12:26.84,Default,,0,0,0,,renowned as the home \Nof the most famous scientist in the world,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.12,1:12:28.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Albert Einstein.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:30.18,1:12:33.70,Default,,0,0,0,,But Oppenheimer rarely did\Nany research himself anymore.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.38,1:12:36.90,Default,,0,0,0,,He published only a few scientific papers,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:37.14,1:12:40.44,Default,,0,0,0,,and after 1950,\Nnever published one again.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:41.58,1:12:43.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}FREEMAN DYSON,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NAnd that was a great grief to him.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:44.22,1:12:48.18,Default,,0,0,0,,He had had dreams\Nof getting back into science and
Dialogue: 0,1:12:48.18,1:12:50.34,Default,,0,0,0,,doing something great\Nwhile he was here.
Dialogue: 0,1:12:51.16,1:12:55.52,Default,,0,0,0,,His wife, Kitty, begged me\Nif I couldn't actually work with Robert and
Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.02,1:12:58.08,Default,,0,0,0,,actually do some science with him,
Dialogue: 0,1:12:58.66,1:12:59.90,Default,,0,0,0,,and I never could.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:00.10,1:13:01.72,Default,,0,0,0,,Some... you know, it was...
Dialogue: 0,1:13:01.82,1:13:04.06,Default,,0,0,0,,he never got down to the nitty-gritty.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:04.34,1:13:05.50,Default,,0,0,0,,He was older.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.96,1:13:07.24,Default,,0,0,0,,What, he was 40?
Dialogue: 0,1:13:07.70,1:13:11.78,Default,,0,0,0,,He was past the age \Nwhen people do their best scientific work.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:13.86,1:13:16.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The popular press continued to depict him
Dialogue: 0,1:13:16.44,1:13:18.90,Default,,0,0,0,,as a scientist on the cutting edge
Dialogue: 0,1:13:19.08,1:13:20.52,Default,,0,0,0,,and a model American,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.44,1:13:24.18,Default,,0,0,0,,a happily married man with two small children
Dialogue: 0,1:13:24.18,1:13:26.50,Default,,0,0,0,,and a German shepherd\Ncalled Buddy.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:29.26,1:13:32.76,Default,,0,0,0,,No one knew that \Nhe was under close surveillance by the FBI
Dialogue: 0,1:13:32.76,1:13:35.46,Default,,0,0,0,,because of his past ties\Nto the Communist Party.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:36.10,1:13:37.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}J. EDGAR HOOVER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} (Archive):{\i0}\NCommunists have been,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.60,1:13:39.98,Default,,0,0,0,,still are, and always will be
Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.98,1:13:43.12,Default,,0,0,0,,a menace to freedom,\Nto democratic ideals,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:43.36,1:13:46.12,Default,,0,0,0,,to the worship of God,\Nand to America's way of life.
Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.84,1:13:49.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}With America's relationship\Nwith Russia deteriorating,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.90,1:13:52.98,Default,,0,0,0,,the fear of Communism seemed\Nto be spreading everywhere,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:53.50,1:13:55.84,Default,,0,0,0,,and FBI director J. Edgar Hoover
Dialogue: 0,1:13:55.98,1:13:58.66,Default,,0,0,0,,continued to find Oppenheimer suspicious,
Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.08,1:14:02.04,Default,,0,0,0,,in spite of Oppenheimer's\Nleadership at Los Alamos
Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.30,1:14:03.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and his immense reputation.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:04.26,1:14:07.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThere were periods\Nin which there was a letup,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:07.68,1:14:11.20,Default,,0,0,0,,but the FBI started to follow
Dialogue: 0,1:14:11.20,1:14:16.66,Default,,0,0,0,,and surveil Oppenheimer\Nin about 1940, 1941,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:17.22,1:14:18.66,Default,,0,0,0,,and never stopped.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:19.00,1:14:20.40,Default,,0,0,0,,Never stopped.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:26.88,1:14:29.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}As the Soviets tightened\Ntheir grip on Eastern Europe,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:30.18,1:14:32.00,Default,,0,0,0,,the hunt for Communist spies
Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.00,1:14:34.43,Default,,0,0,0,,was becoming a national obsession.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.84,1:14:39.36,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NLooked at from outside,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.36,1:14:42.24,Default,,0,0,0,,the United States \Nwas the most powerful country in the world,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.48,1:14:44.08,Default,,0,0,0,,but in the U.S.,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.50,1:14:50.16,Default,,0,0,0,,there was this awareness \Nthat the Russians had walked all over Eastern Europe
Dialogue: 0,1:14:50.46,1:14:53.08,Default,,0,0,0,,and that Communism was being foisted
Dialogue: 0,1:14:53.08,1:14:55.02,Default,,0,0,0,,on the peoples of those countries,
Dialogue: 0,1:14:56.28,1:14:59.50,Default,,0,0,0,,and that was terrifying\Nto the American public.
Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.84,1:15:03.08,Default,,0,0,0,,And it wasn't long\Nbefore there were politicians
Dialogue: 0,1:15:03.42,1:15:05.74,Default,,0,0,0,,who learned to exploit that fear.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:07.46,1:15:09.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The House Un-American Activities Committee
Dialogue: 0,1:15:09.80,1:15:12.02,Default,,0,0,0,,had begun investigating\Nwhat they called
Dialogue: 0,1:15:12.30,1:15:15.58,Default,,0,0,0,,the Communist threat\Nto the American way of life.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.68,1:15:20.06,Default,,0,0,0,,In June 1949,\Nit subpoenaed Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:21.58,1:15:24.34,Default,,0,0,0,,The famous scientist \Ntried to charm the congressmen.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.52,1:15:29.48,Default,,0,0,0,,When they asked,\Nhe confirmed the names of Communist Party members.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:30.22,1:15:31.98,Default,,0,0,0,,Some had been his students.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:34.50,1:15:38.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Later, he said\Nthat his nerve just gave way.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:39.30,1:15:42.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}FREEMAN DYSON,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIt looked as though\Nhe was just trying to save his own skin by
Dialogue: 0,1:15:42.12,1:15:43.92,Default,,0,0,0,,incriminating the students.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:44.24,1:15:45.90,Default,,0,0,0,,To me, it was horrible.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:47.68,1:15:51.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe must have sensed that the flames could
Dialogue: 0,1:15:52.02,1:15:53.88,Default,,0,0,0,,get to him sometime.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.22,1:15:56.70,Default,,0,0,0,,And it wasn't clear to him\Nwhat he should do.
Dialogue: 0,1:15:57.86,1:16:01.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}That same June, \NOppenheimer appeared before Congress again,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:01.90,1:16:04.50,Default,,0,0,0,,but this time,\Nmade a formidable enemy.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:06.68,1:16:08.18,Default,,0,0,0,,Lewis Strauss
Dialogue: 0,1:16:08.18,1:16:11.06,Default,,0,0,0,,was the president \Nof the Institute for Advanced Study.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:11.50,1:16:14.18,Default,,0,0,0,,He had hired Oppenheimer as its director.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:14.94,1:16:18.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Strauss was also a member\Nof the Atomic Energy Commission.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:18.60,1:16:22.54,Default,,0,0,0,,A self-made millionaire,\Nambitious, proud,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:23.14,1:16:26.91,Default,,0,0,0,,fiercely anti-Communist,\Nhe did not like to be crossed.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:27.98,1:16:30.34,Default,,0,0,0,,"If you disagree with Lewis about anything,"
Dialogue: 0,1:16:30.60,1:16:32.76,Default,,0,0,0,,a fellow atomic energy commissioner said,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:32.96,1:16:35.58,Default,,0,0,0,,"he assumes you're just a fool at first,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:36.34,1:16:38.14,Default,,0,0,0,,"but if you go on disagreeing with him,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:38.72,1:16:41.48,Default,,0,0,0,,he concludes\Nyou must be a traitor."
Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.08,1:16:46.38,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer and Strauss\Nclashed over a minor issue
Dialogue: 0,1:16:46.38,1:16:47.88,Default,,0,0,0,,at a congressional hearing,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:48.32,1:16:50.12,Default,,0,0,0,,and Strauss never forgave him.
Dialogue: 0,1:16:50.70,1:16:54.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}(Archival):\N{\i0}My opinion is that\N if the determination were made
Dialogue: 0,1:16:54.32,1:16:56.80,Default,,0,0,0,,that isotopes should not be shipped abroad,
Dialogue: 0,1:16:56.80,1:17:00.24,Default,,0,0,0,,the Congress will be making\Na profound mistake.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:00.52,1:17:03.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer was testifying in support
Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.08,1:17:05.70,Default,,0,0,0,,of exporting radioisotopes to Europe
Dialogue: 0,1:17:05.98,1:17:08.14,Default,,0,0,0,,while Strauss looked on, seething.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:09.26,1:17:11.16,Default,,0,0,0,,Strauss violently disagreed,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:11.34,1:17:14.56,Default,,0,0,0,,fearing that the isotopes \Nmight fall into the hands of Russia.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:15.58,1:17:17.70,Default,,0,0,0,,In a reckless display of arrogance,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:17.98,1:17:21.28,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer aimed a jibe\Ndirectly at Strauss,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:21.62,1:17:23.96,Default,,0,0,0,,telling the congressmen that radioisotopes
Dialogue: 0,1:17:23.96,1:17:27.70,Default,,0,0,0,,were no more dangerous \Nthan a shovel or a bottle of beer.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:28.44,1:17:30.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NAnd everybody laughed,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:30.00,1:17:33.08,Default,,0,0,0,,and a journalist said \Nhe looked over at Lewis Strauss,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:33.08,1:17:34.84,Default,,0,0,0,,who had turned beet red.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:35.46,1:17:39.20,Default,,0,0,0,,He had never seen so much hate and anger
Dialogue: 0,1:17:39.38,1:17:43.20,Default,,0,0,0,,on anyone's face \Nas he saw on Strauss's face at that moment.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:44.24,1:17:47.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NStrauss was very sensitive to criticism.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:48.08,1:17:49.72,Default,,0,0,0,,If he didn't like people,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:50.58,1:17:51.92,Default,,0,0,0,,he dealt with them.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:52.76,1:17:54.16,Default,,0,0,0,,And he had a long memory.
Dialogue: 0,1:17:54.16,1:17:56.58,Default,,0,0,0,,He could deal with them\Na long time afterward,
Dialogue: 0,1:17:57.02,1:17:59.32,Default,,0,0,0,,um, if he wanted to.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:00.08,1:18:02.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:18:03.90,1:18:06.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On August 29, 1949,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:06.48,1:18:09.60,Default,,0,0,0,,the Soviet Union tested\Nits first atomic bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:10.64,1:18:13.65,Default,,0,0,0,,America was still the most powerful nation on earth,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.22,1:18:17.68,Default,,0,0,0,,but the confidence of many of its citizens \Nwas shattered.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:20.74,1:18:23.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThere was near-hysteria in Washington.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:24.98,1:18:27.72,Default,,0,0,0,,People were running around screaming,\N "The sky is falling."
Dialogue: 0,1:18:28.04,1:18:29.70,Default,,0,0,0,,Now, why would they do that?
Dialogue: 0,1:18:30.56,1:18:33.88,Default,,0,0,0,,If you've got all of your eggs in the basket\Nthat it's a secret,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:34.22,1:18:35.86,Default,,0,0,0,,and then the secret is lost,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:35.86,1:18:37.72,Default,,0,0,0,,then of course you think\Nyou've lost everything.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:38.90,1:18:40.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The day the test made headlines,
Dialogue: 0,1:18:40.88,1:18:44.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer received a call\Nfrom an agitated Edward Teller.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:45.84,1:18:48.20,Default,,0,0,0,,"What should I do now?"\NTeller wanted to know.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:49.20,1:18:51.90,Default,,0,0,0,,"Keep your shirt on,"\NOppenheimer told him.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:53.34,1:18:56.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NFrom Teller's point of view,\Nthere was a balance of forces
Dialogue: 0,1:18:56.42,1:18:58.44,Default,,0,0,0,,between us and the Soviet Union in Europe.
Dialogue: 0,1:18:59.48,1:19:01.96,Default,,0,0,0,,They had four million men on the ground \Nin Eastern Europe,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:01.96,1:19:02.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and we had the bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.52,1:19:06.86,Default,,0,0,0,,Now, suddenly,\Nthey had four million men on the ground in Europe,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:06.86,1:19:08.42,Default,,0,0,0,,we had the bomb,\Nand they had the bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.78,1:19:10.96,Default,,0,0,0,,so the balance of forces was upset.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:11.86,1:19:13.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe hated the Soviet Union.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:13.72,1:19:15.24,Default,,0,0,0,,He grew up in Hungary,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:15.32,1:19:18.22,Default,,0,0,0,,and Communism was a four-letter word,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:18.90,1:19:22.92,Default,,0,0,0,,so he thought the only way \Nyou could deal with the Soviet Union was
Dialogue: 0,1:19:23.32,1:19:24.92,Default,,0,0,0,,to have more bombs than they did,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:25.76,1:19:28.56,Default,,0,0,0,,that they would be influenced by force
Dialogue: 0,1:19:28.78,1:19:30.22,Default,,0,0,0,,and by nothing else.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:30.78,1:19:33.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Teller believed he had the answer\N to the Soviet threat:
Dialogue: 0,1:19:34.32,1:19:36.74,Default,,0,0,0,,the Super, the hydrogen bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:19:36.74,1:19:40.10,Default,,0,0,0,,which had remained \Nhis pet project ever since Los Alamos.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:41.02,1:19:44.56,Default,,0,0,0,,It was up to Oppenheimer \Nand his General Advisory Committee
Dialogue: 0,1:19:44.56,1:19:47.14,Default,,0,0,0,,to recommend \Nto the Atomic Energy Commission
Dialogue: 0,1:19:47.14,1:19:49.02,Default,,0,0,0,,whether or not to try and create
Dialogue: 0,1:19:49.02,1:19:52.80,Default,,0,0,0,,the most awesome weapon of mass destruction \Never devised.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:53.36,1:19:54.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NA good many people came to me
Dialogue: 0,1:19:54.98,1:19:58.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}or called me or wrote me letters\Nabout the Super program.
Dialogue: 0,1:19:59.00,1:20:01.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It was not clear to me\Nwhat the right thing to do was.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:02.20,1:20:05.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Was it crash development,\Nthe most rapid possible
Dialogue: 0,1:20:05.46,1:20:07.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}development and construction\Nof the Super?
Dialogue: 0,1:20:08.56,1:20:11.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The debate over the H-bomb\Nsparked a controversy
Dialogue: 0,1:20:11.72,1:20:14.72,Default,,0,0,0,,fraught with danger\Nfor the unsuspecting scientist.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.42,1:20:17.20,Default,,0,0,0,,Ever since he war had ended,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:17.48,1:20:19.34,Default,,0,0,0,,Teller had been trying\Nto convince
Dialogue: 0,1:20:19.34,1:20:21.22,Default,,0,0,0,,any high official\Nwho would listen
Dialogue: 0,1:20:21.32,1:20:24.30,Default,,0,0,0,,that the Super\Nwould keep Americans safe.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:24.58,1:20:26.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe thought that\Nif we didn't develop it,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:26.44,1:20:27.80,Default,,0,0,0,,the Russians surely would,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:27.94,1:20:29.94,Default,,0,0,0,,and we would be at their mercy.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:30.46,1:20:34.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe thought that it would be\Ncrazy not to develop it
Dialogue: 0,1:20:34.32,1:20:37.88,Default,,0,0,0,,and then those who opposed it\Nmight possibly be unpatriotic.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:38.90,1:20:42.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But Oppenheimer \Nand the General Advisory Committee worried more
Dialogue: 0,1:20:42.24,1:20:44.80,Default,,0,0,0,,about the destructive power\Nof the H-bomb
Dialogue: 0,1:20:45.14,1:20:46.68,Default,,0,0,0,,than they did\Nabout the Russians.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:47.18,1:20:49.94,Default,,0,0,0,,They voted eight to zero\Nagainst it.
Dialogue: 0,1:20:50.20,1:20:52.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}There was\Na surprising unanimity,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:52.28,1:20:53.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}to me, very surprising,
Dialogue: 0,1:20:54.18,1:20:57.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}that the United States ought not\Nto take the initiative
Dialogue: 0,1:20:57.12,1:20:58.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}in an all-out program
Dialogue: 0,1:20:58.84,1:21:01.45,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}for the development\Nof thermonuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:02.02,1:21:03.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThe committee concluded
Dialogue: 0,1:21:04.16,1:21:05.66,Default,,0,0,0,,that it shouldn't be built,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:05.66,1:21:08.10,Default,,0,0,0,,because this was a weapon\Nof genocide
Dialogue: 0,1:21:08.10,1:21:12.16,Default,,0,0,0,,that had absolutely\Nno military necessity,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:12.50,1:21:15.18,Default,,0,0,0,,and that our stockpile\Nof atomic bombs
Dialogue: 0,1:21:15.18,1:21:16.98,Default,,0,0,0,,was a sufficient deterrent.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:17.66,1:21:19.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The debate seemed to be over.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:20.06,1:21:22.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer, \Nalong with some of the country's
Dialogue: 0,1:21:22.36,1:21:24.58,Default,,0,0,0,,most experienced nuclear scientists,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:24.58,1:21:26.18,Default,,0,0,0,,had rendered their opinion,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:26.56,1:21:27.88,Default,,0,0,0,,but President Truman,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:28.08,1:21:30.92,Default,,0,0,0,,fearing the Russians\Nwould develop an H-bomb first,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:31.16,1:21:32.12,Default,,0,0,0,,dismissed it.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:33.66,1:21:36.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:21:37.71,1:21:39.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}On November 1, 1952,
Dialogue: 0,1:21:40.08,1:21:42.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}the world's first hydrogen bomb explosion
Dialogue: 0,1:21:42.94,1:21:46.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}vaporized the tiny island of Elugelab in the Pacific.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:51.56,1:21:53.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}HAROLD AGNEW,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NIt became a great big lagoon.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:53.44,1:21:54.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It just went away.
Dialogue: 0,1:21:55.38,1:21:58.37,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}And the whole water around it was milky white.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:02.32,1:22:03.41,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It was scary.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:06.02,1:22:09.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}The heat from this thing\Nwas really very frightening.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:09.38,1:22:12.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}It started getting hotter\Nand hotter and hotter and hotter.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:13.54,1:22:16.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}This is almost 30 miles away.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.16,1:22:25.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThese were no longer weapons\Nthat were military devices.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:26.32,1:22:28.90,Default,,0,0,0,,They were simply weapons of mass destruction
Dialogue: 0,1:22:28.90,1:22:30.48,Default,,0,0,0,,on the most terrible scale.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:32.32,1:22:33.58,Default,,0,0,0,,Well, let's take New York.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:33.84,1:22:37.24,Default,,0,0,0,,The blast would destroy \Nthe entire greater New York area.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.46,1:22:39.72,Default,,0,0,0,,The fallout would take out\Nthe rest of the East Coast.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:40.10,1:22:40.88,Default,,0,0,0,,One bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:44.62,1:22:48.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NIt meant that a new era\Nof warfare was upon us.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:50.58,1:22:53.08,Default,,0,0,0,,We now had in our possession
Dialogue: 0,1:22:53.32,1:22:57.04,Default,,0,0,0,,a weapon of genocide,\Nnot just warfare.
Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.68,1:23:01.46,Default,,0,0,0,,The modern arms race started
Dialogue: 0,1:23:01.46,1:23:04.32,Default,,0,0,0,,with the invention of the hydrogen bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.90,1:23:08.34,Default,,0,0,0,,and after which,\Nit was escalation all the way.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:11.72,1:23:13.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NIf the development by the enemy,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:13.58,1:23:16.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}as well as by us,\Nof thermonuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:23:16.48,1:23:17.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}could have been averted,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:18.12,1:23:20.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I think we would be\Nin a somewhat safer world today
Dialogue: 0,1:23:20.96,1:23:21.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}than we are.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.22,1:23:24.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}God knows, not entirely safe,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:24.24,1:23:26.94,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}because atomic bombs\Nare not jolly, either.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:28.60,1:23:30.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Once the decision was made,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:30.40,1:23:32.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer did nothing to oppose it.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:33.30,1:23:34.14,Default,,0,0,0,,Frustrated,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:34.30,1:23:36.58,Default,,0,0,0,,he considered leaving the government altogether,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:37.16,1:23:39.78,Default,,0,0,0,,but instead,\Nplayed the loyal soldier.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:41.08,1:23:44.20,Default,,0,0,0,,Later, \NOppenheimer's lack of enthusiasm
Dialogue: 0,1:23:44.28,1:23:47.16,Default,,0,0,0,,would be interpreted\Nas outright opposition.
Dialogue: 0,1:23:47.54,1:23:50.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Did you, subsequent to the president's decision
Dialogue: 0,1:23:50.00,1:23:51.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}of January 1950,
Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.00,1:23:53.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}ever express any opposition
Dialogue: 0,1:23:53.68,1:23:55.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}to the production of the hydrogen bomb
Dialogue: 0,1:23:55.92,1:23:57.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}on moral grounds?
Dialogue: 0,1:23:59.78,1:24:01.84,Default,,0,0,0,,I would think\NI could very well have said,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:01.84,1:24:03.50,Default,,0,0,0,,"This is a dreadful weapon,"
Dialogue: 0,1:24:04.82,1:24:06.36,Default,,0,0,0,,or something like that.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:06.68,1:24:09.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Why do you think that you could\Nvery well have said that?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:10.42,1:24:13.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Because I have always thought\Nit was a dreadful weapon.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:13.56,1:24:15.38,Default,,0,0,0,,Even if from a technical point of view,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:15.38,1:24:18.04,Default,,0,0,0,,it was a sweet and lovely\Nand beautiful job,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:18.38,1:24:20.78,Default,,0,0,0,,I have still thought\Nit was a dreadful weapon.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:20.86,1:24:21.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}And have said so?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:22.22,1:24:24.14,Default,,0,0,0,,I would assume\NI have said so, yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:25.24,1:24:26.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You mean,
Dialogue: 0,1:24:27.24,1:24:29.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}you had a moral revulsion
Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.44,1:24:30.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}against the production
Dialogue: 0,1:24:30.74,1:24:32.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}of such a dreadful weapon?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:32.22,1:24:33.56,Default,,0,0,0,,This is too strong.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:33.64,1:24:34.48,Default,,0,0,0,,Beg pardon?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:34.56,1:24:35.77,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}That is too strong.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:36.06,1:24:39.70,Default,,0,0,0,,Which is too strong,\Nthe weapon or my expression?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:40.36,1:24:41.40,Default,,0,0,0,,Your expression.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:42.16,1:24:44.66,Default,,0,0,0,,I had grave concern and anxiety.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.58,1:24:47.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You had moral qualms about it.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:47.42,1:24:48.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Is that accurate?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:49.28,1:24:51.24,Default,,0,0,0,,Let us leave the word "moral"\Nout of it.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:52.24,1:24:53.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}You had qualms about it.
Dialogue: 0,1:24:54.68,1:24:56.84,Default,,0,0,0,,How could one \Nnot have qualms about it?
Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.84,1:24:59.02,Default,,0,0,0,,I know no one \Nwho doesn't have qualms about it.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:00.18,1:25:03.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer wasn't opposed\Nto building nuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:03.26,1:25:04.88,Default,,0,0,0,,He was just opposed to building
Dialogue: 0,1:25:04.88,1:25:06.08,Default,,0,0,0,,huge nuclear weapons
Dialogue: 0,1:25:06.08,1:25:08.32,Default,,0,0,0,,that wouldn't... \Nthat were bigger than the targets.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:08.80,1:25:10.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}(rapid gunfire)
Dialogue: 0,1:25:12.78,1:25:14.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1950,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:14.00,1:25:16.74,Default,,0,0,0,,the United States went to war in Korea.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:18.88,1:25:20.92,Default,,0,0,0,,Soon, Americans were fighting
Dialogue: 0,1:25:20.92,1:25:23.32,Default,,0,0,0,,both Korean\Nand Chinese communists,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:24.14,1:25:25.96,Default,,0,0,0,,while the Russians seemed to be growing
Dialogue: 0,1:25:25.96,1:25:27.60,Default,,0,0,0,,increasingly belligerent.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:29.28,1:25:30.28,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer knew
Dialogue: 0,1:25:30.28,1:25:33.50,Default,,0,0,0,,that America's military planned\Na devastating response
Dialogue: 0,1:25:33.50,1:25:34.92,Default,,0,0,0,,to any Soviet attack.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:37.54,1:25:38.82,Default,,0,0,0,,In 1951,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:39.26,1:25:42.90,Default,,0,0,0,,he was shown the Air Force's\Ntop-secret strategic war plan.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.12,1:25:45.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThe plan was that we would
Dialogue: 0,1:25:45.98,1:25:49.16,Default,,0,0,0,,bomb our way across Eastern Europe\Nwith nuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:49.48,1:25:51.50,Default,,0,0,0,,We would then destroy the Soviet Union,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:51.76,1:25:53.62,Default,,0,0,0,,and then as a kind of an extra,
Dialogue: 0,1:25:53.62,1:25:56.86,Default,,0,0,0,,we'd go on and destroy China, \Nbecause, after all, it was a Communist country.
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.96,1:26:02.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThe American government was planning,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:02.48,1:26:06.54,Default,,0,0,0,,in its nuclear weapons response\Nto any Soviet attack,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:06.82,1:26:10.02,Default,,0,0,0,,to kill 200 and something million people
Dialogue: 0,1:26:10.02,1:26:11.22,Default,,0,0,0,,within a week or two.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:12.74,1:26:16.16,Default,,0,0,0,,I mean, \NOppenheimer just felt that this was madness,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:16.16,1:26:17.86,Default,,0,0,0,,sheer madness.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:18.20,1:26:20.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer spoke out for moderation.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:21.52,1:26:24.84,Default,,0,0,0,,He took a stand against \Nbuilding nuclear-powered aircraft
Dialogue: 0,1:26:24.84,1:26:26.08,Default,,0,0,0,,and submarines,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.26,1:26:29.76,Default,,0,0,0,,and advocated open discussion\Nof the growing arms race.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:30.78,1:26:32.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}It is a grave danger for us
Dialogue: 0,1:26:33.02,1:26:35.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}that these decisions are taken
Dialogue: 0,1:26:35.14,1:26:37.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}on the basis of facts held secret.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:37.96,1:26:41.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}If we are guided by fear alone,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:41.46,1:26:43.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}we'll fail in this time of crisis.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:44.18,1:26:46.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}But powerful Washington insiders
Dialogue: 0,1:26:46.52,1:26:48.38,Default,,0,0,0,,believed he was standing in the way
Dialogue: 0,1:26:48.38,1:26:50.88,Default,,0,0,0,,of America's ability to defend itself.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:51.80,1:26:54.26,Default,,0,0,0,,They were led by Lewis Strauss.
Dialogue: 0,1:26:56.60,1:26:59.36,Default,,0,0,0,,With the election of Dwight Eisenhower to the presidency,
Dialogue: 0,1:26:59.62,1:27:02.88,Default,,0,0,0,,Strauss became the chairman\Nof the Atomic Energy Commission.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:03.48,1:27:05.86,Default,,0,0,0,,He now had the power to build a case
Dialogue: 0,1:27:05.86,1:27:08.96,Default,,0,0,0,,to rid the government\Nof the influential scientist.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:09.74,1:27:13.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NStrauss would deliberately\Ndestroy the name and reputation
Dialogue: 0,1:27:13.60,1:27:16.14,Default,,0,0,0,,and government position of Robert Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:16.22,1:27:19.08,Default,,0,0,0,,And when he destroyed something,\Nhe destroyed it thoroughly.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:20.40,1:27:23.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Strauss began by orchestrating a campaign
Dialogue: 0,1:27:23.02,1:27:25.86,Default,,0,0,0,,in America's most popular news magazines,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:26.28,1:27:28.64,Default,,0,0,0,,alleging that Oppenheimer was undermining
Dialogue: 0,1:27:28.64,1:27:30.84,Default,,0,0,0,,the nation's atomic weapons program.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:33.12,1:27:35.44,Default,,0,0,0,,The stories depicted Edward Teller
Dialogue: 0,1:27:35.70,1:27:37.48,Default,,0,0,0,,as a scientific patriot.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:39.00,1:27:42.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Teller readily joined the crusade\Nagainst his old boss.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:43.00,1:27:46.42,Default,,0,0,0,,He had long wanted\Nto remove Oppenheimer from public life.
Dialogue: 0,1:27:47.76,1:27:50.96,Default,,0,0,0,,In 1951, he told the FBI that
Dialogue: 0,1:27:51.16,1:27:55.64,Default,,0,0,0,,"a lot of people believe Oppenheimer opposed \Nthe development of the hydrogen bomb,
Dialogue: 0,1:27:55.94,1:27:58.38,Default,,0,0,0,,on direct orders from Moscow."
Dialogue: 0,1:27:59.10,1:28:00.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NTeller sincerely believed
Dialogue: 0,1:28:00.64,1:28:03.92,Default,,0,0,0,,that we were \Nin a dangerous arms race with the Russians
Dialogue: 0,1:28:04.06,1:28:06.82,Default,,0,0,0,,and that Oppenheimer was standing in the way
Dialogue: 0,1:28:07.46,1:28:11.00,Default,,0,0,0,,of protecting the country \Nagainst this dreaded foe.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:13.96,1:28:16.74,Default,,0,0,0,,I think he may well \Nhave sincerely believed that.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:17.14,1:28:18.56,Default,,0,0,0,,And I'm sure for Teller,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:18.92,1:28:21.28,Default,,0,0,0,,it was also\Na very personal jealousy.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:21.48,1:28:24.14,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer likes his bomb,\Nbut he doesn't like my bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:24.14,1:28:25.72,Default,,0,0,0,,I know that sounds absurd,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:25.90,1:28:29.16,Default,,0,0,0,,and yet,\NI have no doubt that it was part of the equation.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:29.38,1:28:31.40,Default,,0,0,0,,So, get rid of him,\Nand then Teller,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:31.40,1:28:33.82,Default,,0,0,0,,like cream, \Nwould rise to the top of the bottle.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:33.84,1:28:36.06,Default,,0,0,0,,They needed to get Oppenheimer\Nout of the way
Dialogue: 0,1:28:36.32,1:28:39.54,Default,,0,0,0,,so that Strauss and Teller \Ncould realign the physics community
Dialogue: 0,1:28:39.54,1:28:41.94,Default,,0,0,0,,around the dream of building\Nnew and better bombs.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:42.34,1:28:45.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}(explosion)
Dialogue: 0,1:28:46.00,1:28:48.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Late in August 1953,
Dialogue: 0,1:28:48.48,1:28:52.08,Default,,0,0,0,,the Russians exploded what the press called\Na hydrogen bomb.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:52.94,1:28:55.58,Default,,0,0,0,,The news seemed to confirm\Nwhat Americans feared.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:55.96,1:28:58.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Their nuclear secrets\Nwere being stolen.
Dialogue: 0,1:28:59.48,1:29:00.72,Default,,0,0,0,,Two years before,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:00.92,1:29:04.26,Default,,0,0,0,,reports that Soviet agents\Nhad penetrated Los Alamos
Dialogue: 0,1:29:04.48,1:29:06.92,Default,,0,0,0,,and passed atomic secrets to the Russians
Dialogue: 0,1:29:06.92,1:29:09.86,Default,,0,0,0,,under Oppenheimer's watch\Nhad stunned them.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:10.74,1:29:12.88,Default,,0,0,0,,Convinced that America was vulnerable,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:13.08,1:29:15.86,Default,,0,0,0,,many began searching\Nfor someone to blame.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:16.54,1:29:18.56,Default,,0,0,0,,One Communist on the faculty
Dialogue: 0,1:29:18.86,1:29:22.05,Default,,0,0,0,,of one university\Nis one Communist too many.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:22.48,1:29:25.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The reputations and careers of loyal citizens
Dialogue: 0,1:29:25.50,1:29:28.24,Default,,0,0,0,,in universities, businesses\Nand government
Dialogue: 0,1:29:28.48,1:29:29.94,Default,,0,0,0,,were already being ruined.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:29.94,1:29:32.82,Default,,0,0,0,,Are you a member \Nof the Communist conspiracy as of this moment?
Dialogue: 0,1:29:33.44,1:29:36.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NPeople were really convinced that tomorrow,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:36.38,1:29:38.42,Default,,0,0,0,,Soviets were going to take over America,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:38.58,1:29:41.82,Default,,0,0,0,,and they were convinced that it would be \Nbecause of internal subversion,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:42.22,1:29:44.38,Default,,0,0,0,,not because of external activity,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:44.38,1:29:46.30,Default,,0,0,0,,but because we had spies,
Dialogue: 0,1:29:46.40,1:29:48.54,Default,,0,0,0,,and they were destroying the American way.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:49.16,1:29:50.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The former executive director
Dialogue: 0,1:29:50.98,1:29:53.66,Default,,0,0,0,,of the congressional\NJoint Committee on Atomic Energy
Dialogue: 0,1:29:53.80,1:29:56.62,Default,,0,0,0,,was convinced that Oppenheimer \Nwas one of them.
Dialogue: 0,1:29:58.40,1:30:02.38,Default,,0,0,0,,William Borden had harbored doubts\Nabout Oppenheimer for years
Dialogue: 0,1:30:02.76,1:30:05.16,Default,,0,0,0,,and shared his suspicions with Strauss.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:05.98,1:30:09.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NBorden is a natural ally of Lewis Strauss.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:10.50,1:30:13.40,Default,,0,0,0,,And Strauss allows Borden
Dialogue: 0,1:30:13.40,1:30:16.88,Default,,0,0,0,,to take Oppenheimer's security file home,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:18.84,1:30:20.80,Default,,0,0,0,,and Borden studies it for months,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:20.80,1:30:24.30,Default,,0,0,0,,and writes this letter to J. Edgar Hoover.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:25.84,1:30:28.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Borden outlined a series of charges
Dialogue: 0,1:30:28.24,1:30:29.50,Default,,0,0,0,,against Oppenheimer.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:32.60,1:30:36.73,Default,,0,0,0,,He concluded with an accusation\Nthat went off like a bombshell.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:37.70,1:30:40.28,Default,,0,0,0,,"More probably than not,"\NBorden wrote,
Dialogue: 0,1:30:40.58,1:30:45.22,Default,,0,0,0,,"J. Robert Oppenheimer is an agent\N of the Soviet Union."
Dialogue: 0,1:30:47.08,1:30:49.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Hoover forwarded the letter\Nto the White House.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:50.20,1:30:52.66,Default,,0,0,0,,The President called in Lewis Strauss
Dialogue: 0,1:30:52.80,1:30:54.54,Default,,0,0,0,,to help him decide what to do.
Dialogue: 0,1:30:55.44,1:30:58.02,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NStrauss convinces Eisenhower that
Dialogue: 0,1:30:58.02,1:31:01.06,Default,,0,0,0,,if this letter was sat on\Nby the administration,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:01.06,1:31:03.64,Default,,0,0,0,,it would cost Eisenhower politically,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:03.64,1:31:05.20,Default,,0,0,0,,and Eisenhower declares
Dialogue: 0,1:31:05.20,1:31:08.88,Default,,0,0,0,,that a wall should be put\Nbetween Oppenheimer and secrecy.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:12.46,1:31:17.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}On December 21, 1953,\NStrauss told Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,1:31:17.40,1:31:20.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}that his security clearance\Nhad been suspended.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:23.44,1:31:26.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}The country's most famous authority \Non atomic weapons,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:27.28,1:31:29.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}"the father of the A-bomb,"\Nwas stunned.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:31.26,1:31:34.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}He fell into\Na "despairing state of mind,"
Dialogue: 0,1:31:34.20,1:31:35.55,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}a friend remembered.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:36.84,1:31:39.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}The following evening,\Nafter meeting with his lawyers
Dialogue: 0,1:31:39.80,1:31:41.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and more than one drink,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:41.78,1:31:43.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}he fainted\Non the bathroom floor.
Dialogue: 0,1:31:48.98,1:31:51.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NWhen he began to think about
Dialogue: 0,1:31:52.36,1:31:55.54,Default,,0,0,0,,the consequences of what he was facing,
Dialogue: 0,1:31:56.74,1:31:59.22,Default,,0,0,0,,I think, he realized that he was in
Dialogue: 0,1:31:59.22,1:32:02.62,Default,,0,0,0,,deep, deep trouble\Nfor the first time in his life.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:07.90,1:32:11.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer realized\Nthat he was going to pay.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:14.02,1:32:16.40,Default,,0,0,0,,I think he had the tragic sense.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:16.58,1:32:22.04,Default,,0,0,0,,He understood the drama\Nthat he had to play out,
Dialogue: 0,1:32:22.04,1:32:24.16,Default,,0,0,0,,even though he later called it\Na farce.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:38.22,1:32:39.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The hearings were enveloped
Dialogue: 0,1:32:39.98,1:32:42.88,Default,,0,0,0,,in an atmosphere of fierce\Nanti-Communism.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:43.14,1:32:45.54,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NIt was reported that in 1940,
Dialogue: 0,1:32:45.54,1:32:49.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}you were listed as a sponsor of \Nthe Friends of the Chinese People,
Dialogue: 0,1:32:49.58,1:32:53.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}an organization characterized by\N the House Committee on Un-American Activities
Dialogue: 0,1:32:53.94,1:32:56.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}as a Communist-front organization.
Dialogue: 0,1:32:56.56,1:32:59.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}At stake was a man's dignity
Dialogue: 0,1:32:59.50,1:33:02.02,Default,,0,0,0,,and the role that nuclear weapons would play
Dialogue: 0,1:33:02.02,1:33:04.02,Default,,0,0,0,,in America's military strategy.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:04.80,1:33:07.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NIt was reported that you strongly opposed
Dialogue: 0,1:33:07.18,1:33:09.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}the hydrogen bomb on moral grounds,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:09.64,1:33:12.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and by claiming that it was not feasible
Dialogue: 0,1:33:12.16,1:33:14.04,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and not politically desirable.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:14.14,1:33:16.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}And even after it was determined\Nto proceed,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:16.48,1:33:18.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}you continued to oppose the project.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:19.14,1:33:22.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Confronted with charges\Nthat could ruin his reputation,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:22.36,1:33:25.22,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer himself insisted on the hearing
Dialogue: 0,1:33:25.58,1:33:27.94,Default,,0,0,0,,despite the warnings\Nof some of his friends.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:28.42,1:33:31.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer couldn't see tucking tail\N and walking away.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:31.88,1:33:34.42,Default,,0,0,0,,What would that say\Nabout the charges against him?
Dialogue: 0,1:33:35.18,1:33:38.24,Default,,0,0,0,,On the other hand, \Nit's too bad he didn't understand
Dialogue: 0,1:33:38.24,1:33:40.12,Default,,0,0,0,,what sort of forces\Nhe was up against.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:40.96,1:33:42.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}With no credible evidence
Dialogue: 0,1:33:42.60,1:33:46.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}to prove that Oppenheimer \Nhad put America's security at risk,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:46.58,1:33:50.60,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Prosecutor Roger Robb \Nwould have to wear the scientist down,
Dialogue: 0,1:33:50.96,1:33:55.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}force him into contradictions,\Nconfuse and embarrass him.
Dialogue: 0,1:33:55.80,1:34:00.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Your brother Frank \Ntold you in 1936, probably in 1937,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:00.62,1:34:03.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}that he and his wife Jackie\Nhad joined the Communist Party.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:04.84,1:34:06.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Did he ask your advice\Nabout it?
Dialogue: 0,1:34:06.56,1:34:07.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Oh, Lord, no.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:07.68,1:34:09.42,Default,,0,0,0,,He had taken the step.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:10.00,1:34:13.66,Default,,0,0,0,,I had confidence in his decency\Nand straightforwardness
Dialogue: 0,1:34:13.66,1:34:15.32,Default,,0,0,0,,and in his loyalty to me.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:15.96,1:34:18.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Tell us the test that you applied to acquire
Dialogue: 0,1:34:18.40,1:34:20.35,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}the confidence \Nthat you have spoken of.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:20.82,1:34:23.96,Default,,0,0,0,,In the case of a brother,\None doesn't make tests;
Dialogue: 0,1:34:23.96,1:34:25.12,Default,,0,0,0,,at least I didn't.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:25.12,1:34:26.00,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}Well...
Dialogue: 0,1:34:26.00,1:34:27.16,Default,,0,0,0,,I knew my brother.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:29.52,1:34:31.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}When did you decide\Nthat your brother was no longer
Dialogue: 0,1:34:31.96,1:34:35.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}a member of the party\Nand no longer dangerous?
Dialogue: 0,1:34:37.84,1:34:40.06,Default,,0,0,0,,I never regarded my brother\Nas dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:43.46,1:34:45.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Robb was an experienced trial lawyer,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:46.34,1:34:49.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}but Lewis Strauss wasn't taking any chances.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:51.28,1:34:55.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}The hearings turned into a trial\Nin which Strauss made the rules.
Dialogue: 0,1:34:55.66,1:34:57.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Strauss selected the judges,
Dialogue: 0,1:34:57.58,1:35:00.82,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}kept the defense \Nfrom seeing all the relevant documents
Dialogue: 0,1:35:01.10,1:35:04.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and from knowing in advance\Nwhich witnesses would be called.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:05.24,1:35:07.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThey are in a war against Communism
Dialogue: 0,1:35:08.00,1:35:12.26,Default,,0,0,0,,and, therefore,\Nthe normal rules of justice
Dialogue: 0,1:35:12.26,1:35:13.94,Default,,0,0,0,,have to be set aside
Dialogue: 0,1:35:13.94,1:35:16.78,Default,,0,0,0,,in order to protect the body politic.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:17.60,1:35:20.56,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Strauss even broke the law\Nto get his man.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:21.36,1:35:25.04,Default,,0,0,0,,The FBI bugged Oppenheimer's lawyer's offices,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:25.04,1:35:26.04,Default,,0,0,0,,his home,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:26.04,1:35:27.60,Default,,0,0,0,,nearly everywhere he went,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:27.84,1:35:30.52,Default,,0,0,0,,then passed the information along \Nto the prosecutor.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:31.12,1:35:35.02,Default,,0,0,0,,The defense strategy \Nwas known to the prosecution in advance.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:35.72,1:35:38.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NIt was the worst kind of kangaroo court.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:39.24,1:35:41.44,Default,,0,0,0,,They had them ten ways to Sunday.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:42.50,1:35:46.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} (on record):{\i0}\NThere were approaches \Nto other people who were troubled by them
Dialogue: 0,1:35:46.86,1:35:49.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}and sometimes they came\Nand discussed them with me.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:50.52,1:35:52.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}And that's as far as I can go\Non that.
Dialogue: 0,1:35:53.08,1:35:55.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Unknown to Oppenheimer\Nor his lawyer,
Dialogue: 0,1:35:55.50,1:35:57.92,Default,,0,0,0,,Robb had discovered\Nthe secret recording
Dialogue: 0,1:35:57.92,1:35:59.76,Default,,0,0,0,,of Oppenheimer's conversation
Dialogue: 0,1:35:59.76,1:36:02.85,Default,,0,0,0,,with Army Intelligence Officer\NColonel Pash.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:03.60,1:36:05.58,Default,,0,0,0,,He carefully studied the transcript
Dialogue: 0,1:36:05.84,1:36:09.32,Default,,0,0,0,,and prepared a trap \Nto catch Oppenheimer in a lie.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:09.90,1:36:14.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROGER ROBB, {\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Courtroom Prosecutor:{\i0}\NDid Chevalier tell you\Nor indicate to you in any way
Dialogue: 0,1:36:14.74,1:36:18.40,Default,,0,0,0,,that he had talked to anyone\Nbut you about this matter?
Dialogue: 0,1:36:18.82,1:36:19.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}No.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:19.76,1:36:21.10,Default,,0,0,0,,You are sure about that?
Dialogue: 0,1:36:21.50,1:36:22.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Yes.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:23.90,1:36:25.52,Default,,0,0,0,,Did you learn
Dialogue: 0,1:36:25.52,1:36:27.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}from anybody else or hear
Dialogue: 0,1:36:27.86,1:36:30.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}that Chevalier had approached \Nanyone but you
Dialogue: 0,1:36:30.46,1:36:31.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a3}about this matter?
Dialogue: 0,1:36:32.40,1:36:33.10,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}No.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:33.14,1:36:34.34,Default,,0,0,0,,You are sure\Nabout that?
Dialogue: 0,1:36:34.34,1:36:35.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}That is right.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:36.58,1:36:39.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Doctor, I would like to read\Nfrom the transcript
Dialogue: 0,1:36:39.68,1:36:41.76,Default,,0,0,0,,of your interview with Colonel Pash.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:43.50,1:36:45.38,Default,,0,0,0,,"There were approaches to other people
Dialogue: 0,1:36:45.38,1:36:46.92,Default,,0,0,0,,"who were troubled by them,
Dialogue: 0,1:36:46.92,1:36:49.62,Default,,0,0,0,,"and sometimes came and\Ndiscussed them with me.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:49.94,1:36:53.32,Default,,0,0,0,,That's as far\Nas I can go on that."
Dialogue: 0,1:36:53.94,1:36:55.68,Default,,0,0,0,,Do you recall saying\Nsomething like that?
Dialogue: 0,1:36:55.74,1:36:58.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}I don't recall that conversation very well.
Dialogue: 0,1:36:58.44,1:37:01.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}I can only rely on the transcript.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:01.74,1:37:03.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Doctor, for your information,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:03.60,1:37:07.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}I might say that we have\Na record of your voice.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:09.72,1:37:10.69,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Sure.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:11.20,1:37:13.88,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an1}Do you have any doubt\Nthat you said that?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:14.64,1:37:15.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}No.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:17.58,1:37:19.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}So as to be clear,
Dialogue: 0,1:37:20.52,1:37:23.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}did you discuss with\Nor disclose to Pash
Dialogue: 0,1:37:23.80,1:37:25.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}the identity of Chevalier?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:25.60,1:37:26.46,Default,,0,0,0,,No.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:27.08,1:37:31.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Let us refer to him then,\Nfor the time being, as "X."
Dialogue: 0,1:37:31.48,1:37:32.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}All right.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:32.74,1:37:36.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Didn't you say that X \Nhad approached three people?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:38.34,1:37:39.26,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Probably.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:40.06,1:37:41.90,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Why did you do that, Doctor?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:44.86,1:37:46.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Because I was an idiot.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:46.90,1:37:49.08,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Is that your only explanation,\NDoctor?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:49.08,1:37:51.08,Default,,0,0,0,,I was reluctant\Nto mention Chevalier.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:51.08,1:37:51.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Yes?
Dialogue: 0,1:37:52.60,1:37:55.06,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}No doubt somewhat reluctant\Nto mention myself.
Dialogue: 0,1:37:55.70,1:37:57.14,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}So you told Pash
Dialogue: 0,1:37:57.14,1:38:00.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}that there were several people\Nthat were contacted.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:00.68,1:38:01.44,Default,,0,0,0,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:01.82,1:38:03.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}And your testimony now
Dialogue: 0,1:38:04.84,1:38:06.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}is that was a lie?
Dialogue: 0,1:38:08.02,1:38:08.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}Right.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:08.66,1:38:09.70,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}That wasn't true?
Dialogue: 0,1:38:09.88,1:38:10.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}That is right.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:11.74,1:38:13.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}You did, you are sure,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:13.76,1:38:15.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}tell Colonel Pash
Dialogue: 0,1:38:15.32,1:38:17.50,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}there was more than\None person involved.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:22.96,1:38:25.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}This whole thing is a pure fabrication
Dialogue: 0,1:38:25.44,1:38:27.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}except for the one name\NEltenton.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:28.06,1:38:30.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}Why did you go to such great
Dialogue: 0,1:38:30.88,1:38:33.52,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}circumstantial detail about this thing
Dialogue: 0,1:38:34.98,1:38:36.02,Default,,0,0,0,,if you knew
Dialogue: 0,1:38:36.02,1:38:37.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an3}it was a cock-and-bull story?
Dialogue: 0,1:38:44.18,1:38:46.85,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I fear this whole thing\Nis a piece of idiocy.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:50.34,1:38:53.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NOppenheimer was up against\Na kind of psychological torture.
Dialogue: 0,1:38:54.10,1:38:57.78,Default,,0,0,0,,He was broken down \Nby a very, very skillful prosecutor,
Dialogue: 0,1:38:58.24,1:38:59.70,Default,,0,0,0,,made to look stupid...
Dialogue: 0,1:39:01.60,1:39:03.10,Default,,0,0,0,,made to look like a fool.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:05.54,1:39:08.38,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThe purpose in proving him a liar
Dialogue: 0,1:39:08.38,1:39:10.50,Default,,0,0,0,,was to impress the hearing board
Dialogue: 0,1:39:10.98,1:39:12.58,Default,,0,0,0,,that he couldn't be trusted
Dialogue: 0,1:39:12.58,1:39:15.66,Default,,0,0,0,,and that they should declare him\Na security risk.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:17.34,1:39:19.40,Default,,0,0,0,,It had to be totally humiliating
Dialogue: 0,1:39:19.40,1:39:22.02,Default,,0,0,0,,and destroy his confidence\Nin himself.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:23.02,1:39:24.44,Default,,0,0,0,,He's being told
Dialogue: 0,1:39:24.92,1:39:29.64,Default,,0,0,0,,that he's a liar,\Nuntrustworthy, unworthy,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:30.70,1:39:31.98,Default,,0,0,0,,and he folded.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:32.24,1:39:34.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NThe story I told Pash\Nis not a true story.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:35.84,1:39:38.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}There were not \Nthree or more people involved.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:41.64,1:39:43.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I believe I can do no more
Dialogue: 0,1:39:43.24,1:39:45.84,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}than say \Nthat the story I told is a false story.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:48.78,1:39:50.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}It is not easy to say that.
Dialogue: 0,1:39:52.54,1:39:55.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}Now, when you ask\Nas to why I did this,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:55.74,1:39:57.92,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}other than that I was an idiot,
Dialogue: 0,1:39:59.18,1:40:01.48,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I am going to have more trouble\Nbeing understandable.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:04.76,1:40:07.40,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I found myself, I believe,\Ntrying to give a tip
Dialogue: 0,1:40:07.40,1:40:09.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}to the intelligence people\Nwithout realizing
Dialogue: 0,1:40:10.02,1:40:14.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that when you give a tip,\Nyou must tell the whole story.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:16.62,1:40:20.22,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}But I am, in any case,\Nsolemnly testifying
Dialogue: 0,1:40:21.90,1:40:25.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that there was no conspiracy\Nin what I knew
Dialogue: 0,1:40:25.94,1:40:27.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and what I know of this matter.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:32.52,1:40:35.98,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}I wish I could explain to you better\Nwhy I falsified and fabricated.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:41.68,1:40:44.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NThe trial proved to him his worst fears.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:46.12,1:40:52.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer had been troubled all his life \Nabout who he was.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:52.92,1:40:57.28,Default,,0,0,0,,He later said that \Nhe was repulsive to himself.
Dialogue: 0,1:40:59.66,1:41:04.06,Default,,0,0,0,,The trial said that he had defects of character,
Dialogue: 0,1:41:04.56,1:41:06.70,Default,,0,0,0,,that he was not a good human being,
Dialogue: 0,1:41:07.42,1:41:08.98,Default,,0,0,0,,and unfortunately he agreed.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:12.38,1:41:15.86,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Oppenheimer testified\Nfor 27 hours.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:17.10,1:41:20.20,Default,,0,0,0,,A parade of witnesses was called\N on both sides.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:21.84,1:41:24.32,Default,,0,0,0,,He looked wan, demoralized
Dialogue: 0,1:41:24.32,1:41:26.86,Default,,0,0,0,,by the time Edward Teller took the stand.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:28.28,1:41:31.66,Default,,0,0,0,,Teller drove the final nail\Ninto Oppenheimer's coffin.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:33.22,1:41:37.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}EDWARD TELLER{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} (dramatized):{\i0}\NI thoroughly disagreed with Dr. Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,1:41:37.64,1:41:42.38,Default,,0,0,0,,in numerous issues,\Nand his actions, frankly,
Dialogue: 0,1:41:42.76,1:41:47.30,Default,,0,0,0,,appeared to me confused and complicated.
Dialogue: 0,1:41:48.88,1:41:50.94,Default,,0,0,0,,I feel that I would like to
Dialogue: 0,1:41:50.94,1:41:54.30,Default,,0,0,0,,see the vital interests of this country
Dialogue: 0,1:41:54.38,1:41:57.70,Default,,0,0,0,,in hands which I understand better
Dialogue: 0,1:41:58.18,1:42:00.78,Default,,0,0,0,,and therefore trust more.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:02.54,1:42:05.52,Default,,0,0,0,,I would feel\Npersonally more secure
Dialogue: 0,1:42:05.90,1:42:09.90,Default,,0,0,0,,if public matters would rest in other hands.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:22.16,1:42:23.20,Default,,0,0,0,,I'm sorry.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:26.02,1:42:27.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}After what you've just said...
Dialogue: 0,1:42:31.22,1:42:32.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\an2}I don't know what you mean.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:40.98,1:42:43.42,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}The hearing lasted nearly four weeks.
Dialogue: 0,1:42:44.40,1:42:47.76,Default,,0,0,0,,In his closing remarks,\NOppenheimer's lawyer warned,
Dialogue: 0,1:42:48.32,1:42:51.54,Default,,0,0,0,,"America must not devour her own children."
Dialogue: 0,1:42:56.82,1:43:00.16,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2\i1\c&HF3C76E&}GORDON GRAY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} US Special Counsel:{\i0}\NWe find that Dr. Oppenheimer's continuing conduct
Dialogue: 0,1:43:00.16,1:43:04.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}and associations \Nhave reflected a serious disregard
Dialogue: 0,1:43:04.58,1:43:07.24,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}for the requirements of the security system.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:08.36,1:43:11.32,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We have found a susceptibility to influence,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:11.32,1:43:13.44,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}which could have serious implications
Dialogue: 0,1:43:13.44,1:43:15.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}for the security interests of the country.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:16.74,1:43:19.96,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We find his conduct\Nin the hydrogen bomb program
Dialogue: 0,1:43:20.54,1:43:22.20,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}sufficiently disturbing.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:23.92,1:43:26.28,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}We have regretfully concluded
Dialogue: 0,1:43:26.74,1:43:29.66,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}that Dr. Oppenheimer has been less than candid
Dialogue: 0,1:43:29.66,1:43:32.62,Default,,0,0,0,,{\a2}in several instances in his testimony.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:33.76,1:43:35.72,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}By a vote of two to one,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:35.72,1:43:41.28,Default,,0,0,0,,the board concluded \Nthat, although Oppenheimer was a loyal citizen,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:41.62,1:43:44.28,Default,,0,0,0,,his security clearance should be revoked.
Dialogue: 0,1:43:45.80,1:43:49.00,Default,,0,0,0,,Numb and bewildered,\NOppenheimer told a friend,
Dialogue: 0,1:43:49.72,1:43:52.44,Default,,0,0,0,,"I have so little sense of self remaining."
Dialogue: 0,1:43:56.36,1:44:00.44,Default,,0,0,0,,In a futile gesture, \Nhe appealed to the Atomic Energy Commission,
Dialogue: 0,1:44:00.78,1:44:02.86,Default,,0,0,0,,chaired by Lewis Strauss.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:04.06,1:44:07.08,Default,,0,0,0,,The Commission upheld the verdict,\N four to one.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:13.56,1:44:15.80,Default,,0,0,0,,{\c&HF3C76E&\i1}JEREMY BERNSTEIN:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}I took a train ride with him to New York,
Dialogue: 0,1:44:18.02,1:44:20.90,Default,,0,0,0,,and for some reason,\Nhe started talking about "my case."
Dialogue: 0,1:44:21.78,1:44:22.64,Default,,0,0,0,,"My Case."
Dialogue: 0,1:44:24.42,1:44:25.74,Default,,0,0,0,,And he said to me
Dialogue: 0,1:44:26.72,1:44:30.12,Default,,0,0,0,,that at the time, \Nhe thought it was happening to somebody else.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:33.68,1:44:36.18,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe wasn't accused in the course of the hearing
Dialogue: 0,1:44:36.32,1:44:38.42,Default,,0,0,0,,of having ever betrayed a secret.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:39.62,1:44:41.68,Default,,0,0,0,,It was about getting Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,1:44:41.68,1:44:44.84,Default,,0,0,0,,out of the security councils\Nof the U.S. government.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:47.36,1:44:51.12,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}America's most influential voice for nuclear moderation
Dialogue: 0,1:44:51.44,1:44:52.58,Default,,0,0,0,,had been stilled.
Dialogue: 0,1:44:53.40,1:44:56.46,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARTIN SHERWIN,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Historian:{\i0}\NThe Oppenheimer hearing was a political battle
Dialogue: 0,1:44:56.68,1:44:59.20,Default,,0,0,0,,between the Strauss view--
Dialogue: 0,1:44:59.20,1:45:03.08,Default,,0,0,0,,"We need more and more and more nuclear weapons"--
Dialogue: 0,1:45:03.30,1:45:06.58,Default,,0,0,0,,and the Oppenheimer view\Nthat nuclear weapons are
Dialogue: 0,1:45:06.68,1:45:08.44,Default,,0,0,0,,a part of our defense,
Dialogue: 0,1:45:08.44,1:45:11.28,Default,,0,0,0,,but we have to, you know, use them sensibly
Dialogue: 0,1:45:11.28,1:45:13.54,Default,,0,0,0,,and we can't rely on them totally.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:15.02,1:45:18.48,Default,,0,0,0,,That hearing had a profound effect \Non the nuclear arms race.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:18.48,1:45:21.24,Default,,0,0,0,,It essentially opened the floodgates.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:21.88,1:45:26.98,Default,,0,0,0,,It removed the legitimacy\Nof criticism
Dialogue: 0,1:45:27.00,1:45:30.58,Default,,0,0,0,,against more and more nuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:31.94,1:45:35.74,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1954, \Nthe year of the Oppenheimer hearings,
Dialogue: 0,1:45:35.98,1:45:39.68,Default,,0,0,0,,America had some 300 nuclear weapons.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:41.22,1:45:43.00,Default,,0,0,0,,By the end of the 20th century,
Dialogue: 0,1:45:43.44,1:45:47.76,Default,,0,0,0,,the United States would have at the ready\Nmore than 70,000.
Dialogue: 0,1:45:52.26,1:45:55.34,Default,,0,0,0,,We built \Nso many more than we ever needed,
Dialogue: 0,1:45:56.22,1:45:57.98,Default,,0,0,0,,and the Soviets followed suit.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:17.86,1:46:21.78,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1954, \NRobert Oppenheimer turned 50.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:24.60,1:46:26.76,Default,,0,0,0,,His security clearance\Nhad been revoked.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:27.36,1:46:30.22,Default,,0,0,0,,His connection to the government\Nhad been severed.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:32.62,1:46:37.20,Default,,0,0,0,,He would live for 13 more years,\Nbut he was never the same man.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:39.38,1:46:42.64,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}ROBERT CHRISTY,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NHe had been a strong, forceful leader before that,
Dialogue: 0,1:46:43.20,1:46:45.04,Default,,0,0,0,,and he was a beaten man\Nafterwards.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:47.40,1:46:51.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}RICHARD RHODES,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Writer:{\i0}\NHe gave lectures on science \Nand its interaction with humanity.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:52.10,1:46:55.18,Default,,0,0,0,,He continued to direct the\NInstitute for Advanced Study.
Dialogue: 0,1:46:55.78,1:46:59.42,Default,,0,0,0,,He became what Yeats calls\Na smiling public man.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:02.32,1:47:04.34,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER,{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&} Physicist:{\i0}\NI saw a lot of him at that time,
Dialogue: 0,1:47:04.34,1:47:07.88,Default,,0,0,0,,and I saw the impact\Nthat this tragedy had on him.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:08.54,1:47:10.89,Default,,0,0,0,,I can't recall ever seeing him happy,
Dialogue: 0,1:47:11.06,1:47:14.08,Default,,0,0,0,,you know, just relaxed and having fun.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:15.06,1:47:19.18,Default,,0,0,0,,I don't have the feeling \Nthat he ever felt good about himself
Dialogue: 0,1:47:19.32,1:47:23.48,Default,,0,0,0,,and if he was ever \Nin any sense at peace with himself.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:27.98,1:47:29.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}In 1963,
Dialogue: 0,1:47:29.58,1:47:33.06,Default,,0,0,0,,Oppenheimer received what many saw\Nas an official apology.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:34.30,1:47:36.52,Default,,0,0,0,,President Lyndon Johnson presented him
Dialogue: 0,1:47:36.52,1:47:39.50,Default,,0,0,0,,with one of the nation's highest\Nscientific honors:
Dialogue: 0,1:47:39.92,1:47:43.18,Default,,0,0,0,,the Fermi Award \Nfrom the Atomic Energy Commission.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:44.96,1:47:47.14,Default,,0,0,0,,With countless other men and women,
Dialogue: 0,1:47:47.52,1:47:51.10,Default,,0,0,0,,we are engaged \Nin this great enterprise of our time,
Dialogue: 0,1:47:51.56,1:47:55.24,Default,,0,0,0,,testing \Nwhether men can live without war
Dialogue: 0,1:47:55.46,1:47:57.46,Default,,0,0,0,,as the great arbiter of history.
Dialogue: 0,1:47:58.08,1:48:01.60,Default,,0,0,0,,I think it's just possible,\NMr. President,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:02.08,1:48:05.46,Default,,0,0,0,,that it has taken \Nsome character and some courage
Dialogue: 0,1:48:05.46,1:48:07.70,Default,,0,0,0,,for you to make this award today.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:09.58,1:48:11.58,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}NARRATOR:{\i0}\N{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}Edward Teller was there that day,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:12.14,1:48:14.25,Default,,0,0,0,,come to offer his congratulations.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:15.32,1:48:16.98,Default,,0,0,0,,When he extended his hand,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:17.32,1:48:19.66,Default,,0,0,0,,once again,\NOppenheimer shook it.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:21.28,1:48:22.48,Default,,0,0,0,,After the ceremony,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:22.68,1:48:26.02,Default,,0,0,0,,Lewis Strauss \Nwrote an angry letter to {\i1}Life{\i} magazine,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:26.30,1:48:28.42,Default,,0,0,0,,complaining that honoring Oppenheimer
Dialogue: 0,1:48:28.68,1:48:30.20,Default,,0,0,0,,"dealt a severe blow
Dialogue: 0,1:48:30.20,1:48:33.26,Default,,0,0,0,,to the security system which protects our country."
Dialogue: 0,1:48:41.50,1:48:44.36,Default,,0,0,0,,Robert Oppenheimer died\Nfour years later.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:45.08,1:48:46.28,Default,,0,0,0,,He was 62.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:49.02,1:48:50.64,Default,,0,0,0,,In those twilight years,
Dialogue: 0,1:48:50.82,1:48:54.82,Default,,0,0,0,,he seldom returned to the New Mexico \Nwhere he had come to feel at peace.
Dialogue: 0,1:48:58.06,1:48:59.60,Default,,0,0,0,,When he was 24,
Dialogue: 0,1:49:00.04,1:49:03.98,Default,,0,0,0,,he had written a poem \Ninspired by the wilderness he loved so well
Dialogue: 0,1:49:04.86,1:49:07.02,Default,,0,0,0,,and the allure of death.
Dialogue: 0,1:49:09.46,1:49:11.68,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1\c&HF3C76E&}OPPENHEIMER:{\i0}{\2c&H0000FF&\c&HFFFFFF&}\NIt was evening when we came to the river
Dialogue: 0,1:49:12.62,1:49:14.78,Default,,0,0,0,,With a low moon over the desert
Dialogue: 0,1:49:14.78,1:49:17.52,Default,,0,0,0,,That we had lost in the mountains, forgotten,
Dialogue: 0,1:49:18.00,1:49:20.58,Default,,0,0,0,,What with the cold and the sweating
Dialogue: 0,1:49:21.06,1:49:23.08,Default,,0,0,0,,And the ranges barring the sky.
Dialogue: 0,1:49:24.26,1:49:27.00,Default,,0,0,0,,We waited a long time\Nin silence.
Dialogue: 0,1:49:28.30,1:49:33.12,Default,,0,0,0,,Then, we heard the oars creaking,\N and afterwards,
Dialogue: 0,1:49:34.00,1:49:36.36,Default,,0,0,0,,I remember the boatman called to us.
Dialogue: 0,1:49:38.40,1:49:40.62,Default,,0,0,0,,We did not look back at the mountains.
Dialogue: 0,1:50:39.33,1:50:42.73,Default,,0,0,0,,{\i1}There's more{\i} American\NExperience {\i1}at pbs.org.{\i}
Dialogue: 0,1:50:44.87,1:50:48.00,Default,,0,0,0,,American Experience:\N{\i1}"The Trials of J. Robert{\i}\N{\i1}Oppenheimer"{\i}
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