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Two, take one.
Silent turnover.
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- Are you ready, Ringo?
- Come on. We're doing it. We're on.
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- One.
- Two.
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- Three.
- Four!
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Which key is it in, really?
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- Ringo.
- George is tuned up.
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- Oh, hi there.
- John.
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I'm ready to sing for the world.
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I hope we passed the audition.
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What did it sound like
with the bass doing a funny thing?
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Keep that one. Mark it "fab."
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Music.
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Making good music in a band
is all about chemistry.
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The way our four very different
personalities combined in the Beatles
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was something very special.
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When we lost John,
we knew that it was really over.
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But in 1994, amazingly,
an interesting opportunity arose.
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We could make more music together.
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If we were to do something,
the three of us,
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as interesting as it may be,
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to have John in it is the obvious thing.
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I was talking to Yoko and she said,
"Ah, I think I've got a tape of John."
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We were pretty excited.
A new John song. Amazing.
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To hear John's voice…
That's a thing that we should cherish.
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And I'm sure he would've really enjoyed
that opportunity to be with us again.
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We could use John
and try and make a record.
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It was the closest we'll ever come
to having him back in the room.
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I do remember living at the Dakota
with Dad and Mom.
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There's this impression
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that my dad stopped doing music
for a while to raise me,
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which I think is partially true
in terms of him not touring
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and not fulfilling
any major record label obligations.
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But he was always
playing music around the house.
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He was always making demos.
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And I do remember him recording
into these tape cassette recorders.
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Mom had these handful of songs
that my dad hadn't finished,
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and she gave them to the other Beatles.
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George and Ringo
came down to my studio.
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- Nice day.
- Fabulous day.
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We listened to the track.
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There's John in his apartment
in New York City,
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banging away at his piano,
doing a little demo.
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"Is it something we shouldn't do?"
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Every time I thought like that,
I thought, "Wait a minute.
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Let's say I had a chance to ask John,
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'Hey, John, would you like us to finish
this last song of yours?'"
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I'm telling you, I know the answer
would have been, "Yeah."
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He would have loved that.
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♪ I know it's true ♪
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♪ It's all because of you ♪
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It was very strange
when we started
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that there's only three of us
after all those years and all that life.
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John, do you wanna put the kettle on?
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No.
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We did "Free as a Bird"
and "Real Love,"
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and we got a little bit of time left
to do "Now And Then."
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When we started "Now And Then,"
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it was very difficult because John
was sort of hidden in a way.
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In John's demo tape,
the piano was a little hard to hear.
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And in those days, of course, we didn't
have the technology to do the separation.
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♪ That I… ♪
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You know, that's computer stuff.
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I was telling you a year ago,
Jeff was doing this thing on his computer.
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But it opens up
a whole other kettle of fish as to...
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Can of worms?
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But will it open another year of work?
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It really brought to the fore,
to the three of us, that John's gone.
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Every time we wanted
a little bit more of John's voice,
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this piano came through
and clouded the picture.
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♪ It's all because of you ♪
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I think we kind of ran out
of steam a bit, and time.
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And it was like, "Well, I don't know.
Maybe we'll leave this one."
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Ah, I don't know what he was doing.
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He had no idea.
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- Okay, see you next year.
- See you next week.
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"Now And Then"
just kind of languished in a cupboard.
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And then in 2001, we lost George.
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Which kind of took the wind
out of our sails.
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It took almost a quarter of a century
for us to wait until the right moment
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to tackle "Now And Then" again.
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With the technology
that Peter Jackson and his team
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had worked out during the Get Back movie,
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he'd been able to separate off
certain instruments and voices.
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During the course of Get Back,
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we were paying a lot of attention
to the technical restoration.
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That ultimately led us
to develop a technology
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which allows us to take any soundtrack
and split all the different components
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into separate tracks
based on machine learning.
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Peter Jackson has the MAL machine…
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- Morning, Paul!
- …which can just lift anything.
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- How are you this morning?
- Okay!
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We thought, "Well,
we'd better send John's voice to them
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off the original cassette."
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My dad would've loved that
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because he was never shy to experiment
with recording technology.
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I think it's really beautiful.
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They said,
"This is the sound of John's voice."
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A few seconds later
or however long it took,
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and there it was, John's voice.
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Crystal clear.
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♪ I know it's true ♪
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♪ It's all because of you ♪
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♪ And if I make it through ♪
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♪ It's all because ♪
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♪ Of you ♪
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- Do it again.
- Since, uh, Peter took John off
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and gave him his own track,
it's like John's there, you know?
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It's far-out.
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So in the mix, we could lift
John's voice without lifting the piano,
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which had always been one of the problems.
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Now we could mix it
and make a proper record of it.
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I pulled it out, had a listen to it
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and thought, "Oh, I could actually do
the bass a bit better.
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So, why don't I start there?"
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♪ And now and then… ♪
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Paul called me up and said
he'd like to work on, uh, "Now And Then."
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"What do you think?" "I think it's great."
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So, he put the bass on.
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He sent the files to me.
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I put the drums on.
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It really brought it on, you know?
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And so now we had a track
that was really starting to cook.
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I'd been vaguely thinking
strings might be a good thing.
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The Beatles did lots of string things.
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You know, "Strawberry Fields,"
"Yesterday," "I am the Walrus."
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We wanted to go to Capitol Studios
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'cause that had been EMI,
and it was sort of "Beatle-y."
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Giles worked up an arrangement
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like Giles's dad would have done
in the old days.
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We had to put the music out
on the stands for the musicians,
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but we couldn't tell 'em
it was a new Beatles song.
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It was all a bit hush-hush.
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We pretended
it was just something of mine.
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On the new record, there's a guitar solo.
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We had kept
George's guitar parts from '95.
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And I thought, what I'd like to do is
do a slide guitar solo in George's style.
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It was really a tribute to George.
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And then we started mixing it.
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Wow.
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This is it. Now it's a Beatle record.
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One, two.
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It was incredibly touching
to hear them working together
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after all the years
that my dad had been gone.
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♪ I know it's true ♪
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It's the last song that
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my dad and Paul and George and Ringo
will get to make together.
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♪ And if I make it through ♪
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♪ It's all because ♪
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♪ Of you ♪
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All of those memories
come flooding back.
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My God. How lucky was I
to have those men in my life
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and to work with those men so intimately
and to come up with such a body of music?
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To still be working on Beatles music
in 2023, wow.
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We're actually messing around
with state-of-the-art technology,
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which is something the Beatles
would've been very interested in.
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"Now And Then," it's probably, like,
the last Beatles song.
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And we've all played on it,
so it is a genuine Beatle recording.
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I'll tell you what.
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Why don't you just give me
a little bit of his original demo
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to sort of hear
how he's playing the piano?
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That part could be played on,
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like, another thing.
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- Ringo can play it on his drum.
- I can.
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Yeah, tuned tom-toms. Yeah.
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We'll come in after this.
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Yeah. And I'm thinking
verse three could be,
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like, the intro again, you know?
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Start again.
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When are we ever gonna get to sleep?
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- Now, there's a good question.
- No rest for the wicked.
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- DIN, son. Do it now.
- Do it now.
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Go on then. Back it up a bit.
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Can I just hear John a sec?
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