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An elaborate mansion built
to ward off evil spirits.
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A forbidden tomb
guarded by a deadly curse.
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And an amusement park
that became a playground
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for the souls of the dead.
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You know, from time to time
it feels like
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there's an unseen, evil energy
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that shrouds the world
we live in.
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Ominous tombs,
abandoned amusement parks
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and cursed objects
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can all raise the hair
on the back of our necks
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and make us wonder if
something sinister is at play.
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But is that just
a figment of our imagination?
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Or is it possible
that our fears are justified,
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and that dark forces lurk
all around us?
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Well, that is what
we will try and find out.
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♪ ♪
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Near the center of this
ancient city in Central Asia,
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is a mausoleum known as
Gur-e-Amir.
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It is also known as
the Tomb of the King
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because inside
its magnificent dome
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lie the remains of one of the
most feared rulers in history:
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Tamerlane the Great.
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RICHARD SPENCE:
Tamerlane was often credited
as being the last of the great
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Asiatic conquerors,
in the mold of Genghis Khan.
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He started off, basically,
as a minor tribal leader,
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and then he embarked
upon a 35-year career
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of constant war and conquest...
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...during which he's often
credited with exterminating
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five percent of the world's
population.
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Tamerlane was very adept
at psychological warfare
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and putting his adversary
on the wrong foot.
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His most chilling battlefield
signature was the erection
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of large numbers of towers
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around the city
he'd just conquered.
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And these towers were made up
from the decapitated heads
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of the victims
of the latest conquest.
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A really awful warning
to anyone else who might
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think about rebelling.
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"This is the fate
that awaits you
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"if you even think about
any opposition.
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I will destroy you
and destroy your city."
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SHATNER:
In 1405, Tamerlane died
of a fever at the age of 69.
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By that time,
his empire stretched
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from Siberia
to the Mediterranean Sea.
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But some claim
that even in death,
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Tamerlane wasn't finished
exerting his power on the world.
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Because his tomb is believed to
be protected by a deadly curse.
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Certain people attain
that level of, you know,
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absolutely terrifying,
vicious person.
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Something is evil in them,
so when they die,
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whatever it is
that makes them evil,
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a lot of people think
it still exists.
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And where would it be? It would
be wherever the body is.
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So, in the tomb of Tamerlane
would be this evil presence
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that's now still
terrifying in his death.
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SHATNER:
For centuries,
Tamerlane's tomb was untouched
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by archaeologists
for fear of unleashing
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the dark forces inside.
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But 80 years ago,
his tomb was finally disturbed,
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and there are those who believe
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that it set off
a chain of events
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that changed
the course of history.
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Under the orders of
Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin,
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Russian archaeologists enter
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Tamerlane's mausoleum
and open his tomb.
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MAROZZI:
Stalin was interested
in the clues
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behind Tamerlane's greatness.
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Tamerlane was such
an incredibly powerful man,
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whose career had been
one of bloodshed and savagery.
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And Stalin wanted to
send a very strong message
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that he was
a 20th-century equivalent.
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DOMINIC STEAVU:
When the expedition arrived
on site, they were told
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Tamerlane's tomb has remained
undisturbed for centuries,
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and not to open the tomb,
that if they did,
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something terrible would happen.
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Of course, the expedition
proceeded to open the tomb.
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And this very powerful smell
of frankincense,
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of rose oil and camphor
suddenly bursts forth
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and envelops the expedition.
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Some of the members
of the expedition believe
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that it was the smell
of a curse.
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MAROZZI:
There are supposedly
two inscriptions
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on the tomb of Tamerlane.
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The first inscription reads:
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The second inscription read:
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And that's an indication
this is a sacred resting place.
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This is not somewhere
to be trifled with.
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It was not something
that should even be entertained.
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SPENCE:
The body was removed and
it was taken back to Leningrad,
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where the remains were being
studied at that point in time.
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One of the things that was
in the paper was a picture of
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a Soviet archaeologist
holding the skull of Tamerlane.
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And in the article accompanying
this, there is a reference
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that there were locals
who were disturbed about this.
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SHATNER:
On June 22, 1941,
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two days after Tamerlane's tomb
was opened,
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Russia was hit
with a surprise attack
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by Germany, its supposed ally.
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Over three million Nazi troops
marched into Russia
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in the most massive
invasion in history.
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Nazi Germany
invaded the Soviet Union
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without any warning.
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Up until then, there had
been a pact of non-aggression.
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So, this came as quite
a surprise to the Soviet Union.
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The Nazis called this surprise
attack Operation Barbarossa,
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and they were very swift and
overwhelming in their attacks,
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and they managed to get
very far into the Soviet Union,
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rather quickly,
causing great devastation
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and loss of life to the Soviets.
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Tamerlane's body is removed
from its tomb on the 20th
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and the Eastern Front
erupts in flames two days later.
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Remember, there was a curse.
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"Whosoever
will disturb my tomb
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will unleash an invader
worse than I."
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So, a lot of people would say
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the synchronicity
between the removal
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of Tamerlane's body from
his tomb
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and the launching
of Operation Barbarossa
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isn't an accident.
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SHATNER:
As German troops continued
to overpower Russian forces,
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Stalin's advisors began
to question if the curse
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of Tamerlane's tomb
had been unleashed.
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They urged him to return
Tamerlane's remains
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to Uzbekistan
in the desperate hope
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that it would
turn the tide of battle.
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And to their astonishment,
it worked.
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Tamerlane's remains are
put back in in December of 1942,
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when the whole course of the war
at the Eastern Front changes.
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And from that point on,
it's just one long nightmare
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retreat for the Germans
back to Berlin in April, 1945.
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SHATNER:
Is it possible that returning
Tamerlane's remains
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to his tomb broke the curse
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that triggered Hitler's
invasion of the Soviet Union?
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For many, the evidence
is hard to ignore.
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MAROZZI:
I think for those
who subscribe
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to what we call
the Curse of Tamerlane,
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there are these
two great coincidences.
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Coincidence one,
the tomb is opened
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against all the objections
of the Uzbeks,
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Hitler invades the Soviet Union.
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Coincidence number two,
Tamerlane is reinterred
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with full burial rights,
Hitler is defeated.
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So it comes full circle.
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Two coincidences,
or two proofs that the curse
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was absolutely for real.
Take your pick.
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SHATNER:
Here, on the bank
of Lake Shawnee,
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stands the abandoned remnants
of what was once a simple,
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wholesome,
family amusement park.
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Opened in 1926,
the park thrived for decades,
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until it was abruptly closed
in 1966.
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According to local historians,
the reason for the closure
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was that what started as
a playground for children
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became the site
of numerous tragic
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and disturbing incidents.
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In the 1940s, a little girl
was riding the swings
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and a soda delivery truck
delivered soda
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to the concession stand.
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(children laughing)
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And whenever he did,
he backed up into
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the path of the swing,
and killed the little girl.
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SMITH:
They tried to play it down
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because it was a child
getting killed.
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She wasn't the only child
killed here.
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There were several kids
that drowned.
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One, it was a really sad story,
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and I would hope
it wouldn't happen nowadays.
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A mother brought her
nine-year-old here
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and dropped him off
to go swimming,
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and she went on her merry way.
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She came back
when the park was closing,
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-and she couldn't find her son.
-WOMAN: Come on!
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SMITH:
And they looked for the son
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until ten o'clock at night,
when they found him.
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His arm was stuck in the drain
of the swimming pool and it had
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sucked him in
and he couldn't get out
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and he had just drowned.
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There was another
incidence where there was
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a family out on an outing.
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They was riding
a canoe in the lake.
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The canoe overturned,
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and a little boy
drowned in the lake.
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SHATNER:
Before its doors were closed,
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six children
had died in the park.
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And that might have been reason
enough for the park
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to remain closed, but it didn't.
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In 1985, local resident
Gaylord White
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purchased the property
with hopes of reopening it.
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JEWEL WHITE:
In the 1950s, Gaylord,
my husband, worked here
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when he was in high school.
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He fell in love with it.
So, that was his wish,
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that someday
he would own the park.
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And somebody had
sent us word that the heirs
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had finally decided
they were gonna sell it.
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That's how we bought it.
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We wanted to have
a children's ride park.
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SHATNER:
For years,
locals believed that the park
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was haunted, maybe even cursed.
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Then, in the late 1980s,
the White family
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made some curious discoveries.
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CHRIS WHITE:
We started finding a lot of
pottery and Native American
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tools and arrowheads,
stuff like that.
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So, we stopped
doing the bulldozing.
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We called Marshall University.
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They put together
an archeological team
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that would come down
to the park.
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They started uncovering bodies.
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So, that's when we knew
we had a Native American
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burial ground on the property.
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I know that one
of the burial sites
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was a Native American
14-year-old girl,
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and the belief is
that she died from giving
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childbirth because the child
was buried next to her.
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SHATNER:
A series of tragic deaths
at an amusement park
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built on the site of
a Native American burial ground?
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A coincidence?
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As far as paranormal
investigators are concerned,
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not a chance.
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SPINKS:
The first time I stepped foot
on Lake Shawnee Amusement Park,
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I felt like I was being watched.
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It was an ominous,
just negative feeling.
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I don't necessarily believe
that places are born bad.
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I believe that
things have to occur
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for a place to become
negative in nature.
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WHITE:
People said whenever they
come to the park that they see
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the swings move on their own
or maybe they see a image
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of the little girl
that's riding the swings.
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SMITH:
Seeing only one swing move
when I look at it,
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no one else sees it,
or it stops as soon as
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someone else is looking--
that's pretty scary.
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More than scary,
it's unexplained.
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We tend to be
scientists now, all of us.
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We know everything
that's going on.
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And when you see something
that you don't understand,
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it gets to be creepy.
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LOYD AUERBACH:
Millions of people
have had these experiences.
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Not just hauntings,
but all sorts of ESP experiences
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and related experiences.
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These are questions that science
should be looking at
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very carefully and closely.
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And to say, oh,
it's mass hallucination
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or it's this kind of
explanation, without looking
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into the experience itself,
either the singular
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or the general patterns,
is not scientific.
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It's highly unscientific.
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SHATNER:
Is Lake Shawnee Amusement Park
home to deadly powers
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that are simply
beyond our understanding?
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Or is it possible
that just the thought
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of dark forces is all that's
needed to give us a fright?
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Perhaps clues can be found
by investigating
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a vast mansion
that many believe is haunted
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by the souls of
restless gunslingers.
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SHATNER:
Strange.
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Macabre.
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Disturbing.
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In San Jose, California
stands one of the largest
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and most bizarre private
residences in the United States.
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Known as the Winchester
Mystery House,
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this 24,000 square foot
Victorian-style mansion
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contains an astonishing
160 rooms,
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17 chimneys,
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47 fireplaces,
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two basements,
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three elevators
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and more than 10,000
panes of glass.
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And those are just
the ones we know about.
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But why?
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MAGNUSON:
Well, the Winchester Mystery
House is a very special place
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that was built
with no master plan,
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but there are a lot
of architectural oddities
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that remain a mystery
as to why they're here.
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STEVE BURROWS:
Most buildings
start with some drawing,
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some blueprints,
some documents that say
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"this is what it's gonna
look like when it was finished."
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That building looks like
they made it up as they went.
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BOEHME:
There are doors that open
to 12-foot drops outside.
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There's doors that,
if you step through them,
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you'll land in a kitchen sink
on the first floor.
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It's almost like
an Escher picture in some ways.
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SHATNER:
The mastermind behind this
architectural jigsaw puzzle
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was Sarah Winchester,
the widow of the man
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who manufactured
the Winchester repeating rifle.
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It was famously known as
"the gun that won the west"
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because it could
kill more people faster
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than any gun
previously invented.
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BOEHME:
The Winchester rifle was
special because it could fire
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up to 15 rounds
without being reloaded,
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which was very different
from most of the smooth bores
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used in the Civil War,
say, which were,
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you loaded it, you fired
one shot, and that was it.
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So, you could imagine the
advantage that you would have
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being able to shoot
round after round after round
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without reloading.
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SHATNER:
When Sarah's husband
died in 1881,
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she became the heir
to his massive fortune.
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Three years later,
she began construction
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on a mansion that would
take 38 years to complete.
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She just added things on
if she had a great idea,
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so everybody had to listen
and say, "Oh, okay,
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you want a large ballroom
up there."
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And then they'd figure it out
as they went.
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DAVID WHITEHEAD:
Even to this day,
they're still finding
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new rooms and new features
to this house.
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Was Sarah just
working off of her whims?
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Was she just an eccentric,
crazy lady?
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Or is there some
other unknown explanation
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that we have yet to understand?
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SHATNER:
It is suspected that one
reason Sarah kept building
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and building around the clock
for 38 years
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is that she was trying
to protect herself from all
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the dead souls the Winchester
rifles had killed.
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Perhaps, it was thought,
if the house was built
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as a giant maze, the ghosts
would never be able to find her.
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MAGNUSON:
The story is that
Sarah Winchester
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went through
a long period of grief.
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She unfortunately lost a child,
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only weeks old, and she lost
her husband to tuberculosis.
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And she started wondering
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why are all these
terrible things happening to me?
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And what was common
at the time was to seek out
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a medium or a spiritualist,
for guidance.
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And that person said
that the karma of this--
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the gun that won the west--
and all of these terrible thing
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associated with this firearm,
is kind of haunting you.
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BOEHME:
This spiritualist medium
told her that in order to pacify
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these spirits, who were
very offended at having been
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killed by Winchester rifles,
she needed to build a house.
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And she should
never stop building.
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And the idea also was that
the constant sound
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of the saws and hammers would
drive the bad spirits away.
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MAGNUSON:
Some of the design features
were specifically built
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to confuse
evil or malicious spirits.
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So, if the stairs
led to the ceiling or if
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a door led to the outside,
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possibly, they would be confused
and leave the property.
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SHATNER:
Did Sarah Winchester
spend nearly 40 years
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and the equivalent
of more than $60 million
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constructing a bizarre
labyrinth
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of stairs, halls and doors
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in order to keep
the vengeful dead at bay?
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Perhaps.
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And for further evidence,
some point to the fact
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that the house is filled
with strange symbolism.
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WHITEHEAD:
An interesting symbol
that you see all throughout
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the house is the symbol
of the sun.
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In astrology and astrotheology,
you have the idea of the Zodiac,
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which is you have
the 12 houses of the Zodiac,
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and the number 13 is the sun.
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At the front gates of the house,
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on each gate,
you have a symbol of the sun.
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And the rays of the sun
add up to 16 on each sun.
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So, when you put
the 16 and the 16 together,
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you have the date
that William Shakespeare died.
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BOEHME:
Th two most cryptic
windows, stained glass windows
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in the house are
Sarah's ballroom windows.
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They're the only ones
that have any text in them.
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And they're two quotes from
different Shakespearian plays,
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and they read, "Wide unclasp
the tables of their thoughts."
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And then the other one says,
"These same thoughts
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people this little world."
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We don't know exactly what
that meant to Sarah.
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She took that secret
with her to her grave.
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MAGNUSON:
Sarah Winchester passed away
September, 1922.
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As you can imagine,
there was great excitement
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to see this incredible home
that everyone in the town
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had seen being built up
over so many years.
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All the furnishings were
sold anonymously at auction,
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but what was left was one large
safe in the grand ballroom.
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WHITEHEAD:
Sarah put a safe
in the grand ballroom,
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which is an odd place
to put a safe.
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And the safe itself is very odd.
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It's basically,
you open up the safe.
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and then you find another safe,
and you have to open up
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another safe and it's a safe
within a safe within a safe.
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BOEHME:
People were
kind of just mystified.
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Like, "What's in the safe?"
They were hoping for maybe
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treasure, gold bars or jewelry.
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MAGNUSON:
After they finally got inside,
they found just two things.
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No gold, no silver, no diamonds.
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A lock of hair from her baby,
Annie, who passed away
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just a few weeks old, and
the obituary of her husband,
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who passed away to
tuberculosis very young.
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SHATNER:
A lock of hair
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and an obituary.
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It seems Sarah Winchester's
motives
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for building such a strange
and unsettling structure
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remain safely hidden somewhere
in the never-ending house.
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Ultimately, it's hard to say
what secrets
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the Winchester Mystery House
holds,
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but one thing is certain.
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It was built to confuse
unwelcome guests,
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whether they're alive or dead.
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But there's another residence,
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located in the state of Indiana,
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that may be imbued
with even darker forces.
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It's a home that many believe
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is the most evil place
in North America.
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SHATNER: February 16, 2019.
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Paranormal investigator
Dave Spinks
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and his associate Haley Sharp
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have traveled here
to this small town
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to investigate a house
that many consider
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to be the most evil place
in North America.
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Referred to as Willows Weep,
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it has been the site
of a series of gruesome deaths
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since it was built
in the 19th century.
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Brenda Johnson
owns Willows Weep.
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-Hi, Brenda.
-Hi, Dave.
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SHATNER:
She dismissed the rumors
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about it being an evil place
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and purchased it
only a few years ago
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with plans to renovate it.
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-This is my assistant, Haley.
-Hi.
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-Hi.
-It's nice to meet you.
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SHATNER:
But recent events have
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convinced her that she may have
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made a terrible mistake.
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To this end,
she has invited Dave and Haley
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to come and
investigate the house
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and see if her strange
experiences can be verified.
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-So, how you doing?
-Not good, standing here.
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All night last night I was sick
thinking about coming over here
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around this house.
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So tell us a little bit
about the house,
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some of your experiences here.
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Well, when I bought
the house, we started
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working on it, and then my son
was working on the ceiling,
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the boards come
flying off at him
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and hurt him, and I've been
scratched in there.
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Six claw marks down my back.
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Doors slamming on you.
Banging underneath the floors.
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I understand there's been deaths
in this house. Can you kind of
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-go through those a little bit?
-Yeah.
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The man that built the house,
he died in the bathtub.
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There was two suicides
and then another hanging.
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And I heard that three men
had been poisoned.
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About six months prior,
before I bought it,
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there was a man that,
he committed suicide in there.
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-He fell into the chair...
-SPINKS: And that's where
they found him?
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They found him, what,
a couple days later, right?
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-JOHNSON: Week.
-SPINKS: A week?
Week later. Okay.
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00:25:09,667 --> 00:25:11,500
Do you think what's
in that house is evil?
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00:25:11,708 --> 00:25:13,708
-Yes, I do.
-Without a doubt?
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Yes, I do. Without a doubt.
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If it wasn't evil
it wouldn't be hurting people.
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00:25:18,708 --> 00:25:20,667
I don't think
there's nothing good in there.
446
00:25:20,875 --> 00:25:22,792
The house was built
in the late 1800s, correct?
447
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1890. Yes.
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00:25:24,875 --> 00:25:27,000
So, regarding
the shape of the house--
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-it's in the shape of a cross.
-Upside down cross.
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SPINKS:
Strange.
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JOHNSON:
Yes. Very strange.
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SPINKS:
Do you think the guy
was into some weird stuff,
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like occult stuff,
that built it?
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Why would you build
a house like that
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if you wasn't into something?
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Absolutely.
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00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:46,625
So, we're getting ready
to go into this house
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and investigate it.
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-Would you like to join us?
-No, no way.
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00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:53,500
-Never go back in there again.
Ever.
-SPINKS: All right.
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We're gonna get in there
and investigate.
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00:25:55,167 --> 00:25:56,167
All right.
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00:25:59,292 --> 00:26:01,625
-Here we go.
-All right.
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Pretty heavy in here.
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00:26:06,583 --> 00:26:07,792
Definitely.
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00:26:10,542 --> 00:26:12,167
Well, where do you want
to get set up?
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00:26:12,333 --> 00:26:13,958
-Right here.
-Okay.
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SHATNER:
To see if the house might
contain strange anomalies,
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Dave and Haley will use
a temperature sensor,
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which can detect fluctuations
in both temperature
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and electromagnetic fields.
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00:26:26,125 --> 00:26:29,417
All right. 41, 40 degrees,
and it's going down.
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(device beeping)
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SHARP:
It really likes this area.
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SPINKS: Yeah.
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It's going nuts.
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SHATNER: The temperature sensor
has been dropping steadily
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by as much as nine degrees.
But why?
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So, this room is appearing
to be pretty active so far.
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I mean, the whole house
really is.
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But we've got a lot of hits
right here on this device.
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SHARP:
This is the chair
that Brenda was talking about.
483
00:27:03,792 --> 00:27:05,167
Yeah, look at the blood on it.
484
00:27:05,333 --> 00:27:08,458
It's a really sad, heavy feeling
right here, too,
485
00:27:08,625 --> 00:27:10,833
in the pit of my stomach.
486
00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:13,667
Almost immediately,
the device started going off
487
00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:16,917
in the chair where
a man who killed himself
488
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:20,542
in the house several
years ago was found in.
489
00:27:20,708 --> 00:27:22,000
SHARP: Something there.
490
00:27:23,167 --> 00:27:24,667
SHATNER: Could the strange
changes in the temperature
491
00:27:24,875 --> 00:27:27,833
of the house be caused
by some explainable force?
492
00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:30,625
a sudden drop
in barometric pressure caused by
493
00:27:30,833 --> 00:27:33,792
the presence of a deep
underground well, perhaps?
494
00:27:35,958 --> 00:27:39,833
Or could it be caused
by something else?
495
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,042
Something that
can't yet be explained?
496
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:46,167
I'm getting the sickness,
the headache.
497
00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:51,125
-Definitely something negative
here, in my opinion.
-I agree.
498
00:27:51,292 --> 00:27:52,375
All right, so let's get out
of here.
499
00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:53,750
-Let's go.
-All right.
500
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:57,125
SHATNER:
Dave and Haley
are beginning to suspect
501
00:27:57,292 --> 00:28:00,583
that the stories of
Willows Weep being an evil place
502
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:04,792
might be based on more
than fear and superstition.
503
00:28:05,958 --> 00:28:07,667
SHARP:
The house is scary.
504
00:28:07,875 --> 00:28:10,125
I wouldn't want to
be in this house alone.
505
00:28:10,292 --> 00:28:12,500
I'd say this house
does have some evil in it.
506
00:28:12,708 --> 00:28:14,500
It does not give you
a good feeling.
507
00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:17,917
It wants to
suck the life out of you.
508
00:28:19,708 --> 00:28:21,625
I've been to many locations,
509
00:28:21,792 --> 00:28:24,458
and this one stands out
above all of them so far.
510
00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:26,958
In my personal opinion,
there are
511
00:28:27,083 --> 00:28:30,208
many spirits and entities
in this house.
512
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:33,500
There are human spirits
and possibly demonic spirits
513
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:36,708
that influenced the humans
that have lived in his house,
514
00:28:36,875 --> 00:28:41,458
and quite possibly have
caused them to harm themselves.
515
00:28:43,375 --> 00:28:45,667
SHATNER:
Once outside,
Dave and Haley give owner
516
00:28:45,875 --> 00:28:48,417
Brenda Johnson a report
on their findings,
517
00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:53,167
but not before Dave makes Brenda
a rather surprising offer.
518
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:55,083
I know you really
don't like this place.
519
00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:57,583
-No.
-And I know that
you want to get rid of it.
520
00:28:57,708 --> 00:29:01,167
-Yeah.
-Because I'd like to
purchase the house from you.
521
00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:02,667
(laughs)
522
00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:05,167
-Mm-hmm.
-Okay. Yes.
523
00:29:05,375 --> 00:29:07,875
SHATNER:
Dave is willing to be
the next owner of Willows Weep.
524
00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:10,125
-All right.
-Thank you, hon. Thank you.
525
00:29:10,333 --> 00:29:12,417
SPINKS:
I told Brenda
if I own this house,
526
00:29:12,583 --> 00:29:14,792
I could investigate it
much further
527
00:29:14,917 --> 00:29:17,833
and much more in depth,
and possibly
528
00:29:18,042 --> 00:29:20,375
come to a conclusion
529
00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:23,333
as to what's causing the evil
that lurks within its walls.
530
00:29:23,542 --> 00:29:26,250
That is, if something
doesn't happen to me first.
531
00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:29,208
-You too.
-SPINKS: Luckily for me,
she agreed.
532
00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:31,250
She really couldn't
wait to sell the place.
533
00:29:31,417 --> 00:29:35,375
SHATNER:
Is it a good idea to investigate
places like Willows Weep
534
00:29:35,583 --> 00:29:39,833
in order to find out whether
dark forces really exist?
535
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,167
Perhaps. But some
people believe that it's
536
00:29:43,292 --> 00:29:46,917
better to simply avoid
these locations at all costs.
537
00:29:47,042 --> 00:29:50,042
Like in the case of
an abandoned island in Mexico
538
00:29:50,208 --> 00:29:55,542
whose only inhabitants
are thousands of eerie dolls.
539
00:30:04,208 --> 00:30:06,333
SHATNER:
Just south of Mexico City.
540
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:10,000
Dotted amongst the numerous
tree-filled canals
541
00:30:10,167 --> 00:30:12,750
that run through
this ancient city
542
00:30:12,958 --> 00:30:16,292
are dozens of artificial
floating islands
543
00:30:16,458 --> 00:30:19,208
known as chinampas.
544
00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:23,167
But one chinampa stands out
545
00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:26,167
because the branches of
its willow and cypress trees
546
00:30:26,375 --> 00:30:30,333
appear to be growing
something rather unusual.
547
00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:35,208
The place is called
Isla de las Muñecas,
548
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:38,917
otherwise known as
the Island of the Dolls.
549
00:30:42,333 --> 00:30:45,542
HOROWITZ:
The island is
a forest-like enclave
550
00:30:45,667 --> 00:30:47,333
draped with thousands
551
00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:50,833
and thousands of ordinary dolls.
552
00:30:51,958 --> 00:30:54,708
Childhood playthings
hanging from trees,
553
00:30:54,917 --> 00:30:56,875
vines and branches.
554
00:30:57,042 --> 00:30:58,500
It's very eerie.
555
00:30:59,542 --> 00:31:02,917
These look like
suspended living presences
556
00:31:03,083 --> 00:31:05,875
that are believed
to ward off evil.
557
00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:10,833
It's a spooky living
sculpture that some people say
558
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,958
um, is cursed.
559
00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:18,000
And according to folklore,
560
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:20,375
you can hear whispering...
561
00:31:20,542 --> 00:31:21,917
(indistinct whispers)
562
00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:25,167
...and you can hear
little girls' voices.
563
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:29,375
You can see the dolls' eyes
blinking on their own,
564
00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:31,125
which is just terrifying.
565
00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:36,708
SHATNER:
The only permanent residents of
the island are the strange dolls
566
00:31:36,917 --> 00:31:39,750
that have given the place
a ghoulish reputation.
567
00:31:39,958 --> 00:31:43,125
But who created this
macabre spectacle?
568
00:31:43,208 --> 00:31:45,083
And why?
569
00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:48,167
Well, according to local lore,
the story began
570
00:31:48,375 --> 00:31:50,792
in the 1950s,
when the island was owned
571
00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:55,000
by a man named
Julian Santana Barrera.
572
00:31:55,208 --> 00:31:57,667
Julian Santana Barrera
573
00:31:57,833 --> 00:31:59,958
came to live on the chinampa.
574
00:32:00,125 --> 00:32:05,500
And according to the stories,
he came across
575
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:09,375
a little girl floating
in one of the canals.
576
00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:12,833
Barrera is devastated that
he can't save the little girl,
577
00:32:13,042 --> 00:32:15,167
and pulls her out of the water
578
00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:18,542
and buries her on the island.
579
00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:23,625
Barrera felt, eventually,
that he was seeing the ghost
580
00:32:23,792 --> 00:32:27,708
of this girl walking around
his little chinampa island.
581
00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:30,833
To try to make her happy,
582
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,583
he hung some dolls in the trees.
583
00:32:34,750 --> 00:32:36,667
And he hung
more and more dolls up
584
00:32:36,792 --> 00:32:41,625
to appease the spirit of this
little girl who died tragically.
585
00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:45,875
We can think about
what Barrera did
586
00:32:46,042 --> 00:32:48,500
as a talisman or a symbol
587
00:32:48,625 --> 00:32:52,167
that is used to protect.
588
00:32:52,333 --> 00:32:55,292
All across all across the globe,
you see
589
00:32:55,417 --> 00:32:58,083
these totems being used
in this particular way.
590
00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:03,333
There are stones and there are
ornaments that people
591
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,167
hang in their houses,
in their cars.
592
00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:10,292
Sometimes people carry them
on their physical person.
593
00:33:10,458 --> 00:33:14,667
And the act is done as
a kind of protective gesture.
594
00:33:17,167 --> 00:33:19,333
SHATNER:
Ultimately, Barrera
hung thousands of dolls
595
00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:21,417
all over the island,
596
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:25,125
not only to honor
the memory of the young girl,
597
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,375
but also to guard against
a dark entity
598
00:33:27,542 --> 00:33:31,000
that he believed
had caused her death.
599
00:33:32,083 --> 00:33:35,417
An entity known as La Llorona.
600
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:40,292
La Llorona
is a tragic character.
601
00:33:42,792 --> 00:33:46,125
She is the first Native mother
602
00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:48,625
who gave birth to children
603
00:33:48,833 --> 00:33:52,250
from a Conquistador, a Spaniard.
604
00:33:54,542 --> 00:33:56,417
The story says that
605
00:33:56,583 --> 00:33:59,417
her community rejected her
because her children
606
00:33:59,583 --> 00:34:02,208
were Spaniard,
and so she was shamed.
607
00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:04,833
She was so ashamed of this,
in fact,
608
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,792
that she went down to the river
and she drowned her children.
609
00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:11,958
She immediately regretted this.
610
00:34:12,167 --> 00:34:14,792
(woman wailing)
611
00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:19,333
BARNHART:
And now she's this spirit
that haunts lakes and rivers.
612
00:34:21,333 --> 00:34:24,292
La Llorona is a well-known
myth all around Mexico.
613
00:34:24,458 --> 00:34:28,625
And so, a man like Barrera,
who sees a child
614
00:34:28,792 --> 00:34:32,125
floating in the water--
he almost certainly,
615
00:34:32,208 --> 00:34:34,917
at least for a moment,
thought of La Llorona
616
00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:36,833
and that this
is her children, floating.
617
00:34:38,292 --> 00:34:40,583
SHATNER:
Since Barrera's death in 2001,
618
00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:44,000
the island of the dolls
has remained abandoned.
619
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,125
But locals continue to tell
the story of the drowned girl.
620
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:51,833
Many are convinced that
there's an evil presence
621
00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:53,667
on this island.
622
00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:57,292
And as evidence, they point
to the chilling circumstances
623
00:34:57,375 --> 00:35:00,167
of Julian Barrera's death.
624
00:35:00,375 --> 00:35:03,417
After suffering from
a fatal heart attack,
625
00:35:03,583 --> 00:35:08,417
his body was found
in an unsettling location.
626
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:13,500
PEREZ:
Barrera dies, and not only
does he die on the island,
627
00:35:13,708 --> 00:35:16,333
but his body is found
in the exact canal
628
00:35:16,542 --> 00:35:17,792
where he found the little girl.
629
00:35:19,583 --> 00:35:22,042
Is there a correlation?
We don't know.
630
00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:24,917
But many people believe
631
00:35:25,042 --> 00:35:27,375
that if you are out at night
632
00:35:27,542 --> 00:35:30,000
by yourself,
playing down by the river,
633
00:35:30,208 --> 00:35:33,667
that La Llorona will "get you."
634
00:35:42,417 --> 00:35:44,167
The British tabloid The Sun
635
00:35:44,292 --> 00:35:47,542
publishes an article
by journalist John Murphy
636
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:51,333
about the aftermath
of a local house fire.
637
00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:53,292
But, according to
John Murphy, this is not
638
00:35:53,458 --> 00:35:55,667
your typical human
interest story.
639
00:35:55,792 --> 00:35:58,417
Because, although the blaze
burned the home
640
00:35:58,625 --> 00:36:01,500
and nearly everything in it
to the ground,
641
00:36:01,625 --> 00:36:04,000
one object
did manage to survive:
642
00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:08,083
a copy of
a painting depicting...
643
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:09,917
The Crying Boy.
644
00:36:11,208 --> 00:36:14,167
I was told to go out
and have a look at the fire,
645
00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:16,750
speak to the homeowners
and see what had happened.
646
00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:19,958
I got there, and it was
conventional chip pan fire.
647
00:36:20,167 --> 00:36:22,000
No one, fortunately,
was hurt,
648
00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:23,667
but the house had been
649
00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:26,667
completely gutted.
But the extraordinary thing
650
00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:31,167
was that the print had
actually survived the blaze.
651
00:36:31,292 --> 00:36:33,000
SHATNER:
Initially, John thought that
the painting's survival
652
00:36:33,208 --> 00:36:36,750
was a mildly interesting tidbit,
653
00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:39,958
but not especially newsworthy
on its own.
654
00:36:40,042 --> 00:36:44,333
That is, until a firefighter
on the scene informed him
655
00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:47,292
that this wasn't
the only time that a copy
656
00:36:47,417 --> 00:36:51,750
of a similar painting had
survived such a massive fire.
657
00:36:51,875 --> 00:36:55,708
MURPHY:
When I was speaking to the fire
officer outside the home
658
00:36:55,875 --> 00:36:59,333
on that Monday morning, he told
me about his brother-in-law,
659
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,625
whose house had also been
destroyed by fire, and who also
660
00:37:02,792 --> 00:37:06,250
had a print of The Crying Boy
in the house which survived.
661
00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:09,833
We had an interesting
conversation, and he said,
662
00:37:10,042 --> 00:37:11,542
"This is really, really strange.
663
00:37:11,708 --> 00:37:14,333
"I have been on so many
house fires recently
664
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:18,542
where there has been
this print in the house."
665
00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:20,667
DAVID CLARKE:
The houses where
there'd been these fires
666
00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:24,292
were completely gutted.
So hot, in fact,
667
00:37:24,417 --> 00:37:26,333
that, say, on the ground floor
of one particular house,
668
00:37:26,542 --> 00:37:28,750
the plaster
was stripped from the walls.
669
00:37:28,917 --> 00:37:33,333
And yet this particular print
was hanging on the wall,
670
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,833
absolutely unscathed.
671
00:37:38,042 --> 00:37:40,833
I contacted my news desk,
phoned through the story.
672
00:37:41,042 --> 00:37:42,667
So, hence the story
673
00:37:42,875 --> 00:37:46,542
of the curse of The Crying Boy
print was born.
674
00:37:48,208 --> 00:37:50,667
SHATNER:
Dozens of homes ravaged by fire.
675
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:55,167
And in every single case,
a Crying Boy print
676
00:37:55,375 --> 00:37:57,667
had survived unscathed.
677
00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:01,000
But how could
such a thing be possible?
678
00:38:02,042 --> 00:38:06,083
MURPHY:
The story went viral after
The Sun got hold of the story,
679
00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:10,042
and next thing, they ran
telephone campaigns
680
00:38:10,208 --> 00:38:14,167
asking if their readers had
got a print of The Crying Boy
681
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:17,000
and if so, had they
experienced any disasters
682
00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:19,375
like house fires?
683
00:38:19,542 --> 00:38:22,625
CLARKE:
So, that's where
the rumor became a legend.
684
00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:25,333
But at that stage,
there was no story to explain
685
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:28,417
who the child was
and why was he crying.
686
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:32,292
SHATNER:
The Crying Boy portraits
are among a series
687
00:38:32,417 --> 00:38:33,875
of mass-produced artworks
688
00:38:34,042 --> 00:38:37,958
that belong to a genre
known as Big Eyed Art,
689
00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:39,833
sold in British
department stores
690
00:38:40,042 --> 00:38:42,292
in the 1960s and 70s.
691
00:38:42,458 --> 00:38:45,792
But in this case,
who was the artist?
692
00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:49,292
And why was he or she
so obsessed with
693
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:51,333
with painting a crying boy?
694
00:38:53,083 --> 00:38:56,208
CLARKE:
In the 1950s, there was
a Californian artist,
695
00:38:56,375 --> 00:39:01,125
Margaret Keane,
who painted a whole range
696
00:39:01,333 --> 00:39:03,792
of children, and this
became "Big Eyed" art.
697
00:39:03,958 --> 00:39:04,958
And it was something
that was very popular
698
00:39:05,167 --> 00:39:06,833
in the '50s and '60s.
699
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,875
Lots of European painters copied
Margaret Keane's art style.
700
00:39:12,042 --> 00:39:17,375
Probably the best known
was a series of 27 paintings
701
00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:20,792
by an Italian artist
called Bruno Amadio
702
00:39:20,958 --> 00:39:25,083
who was born in 1911,
died in the early 1980s.
703
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:29,792
And he was classically trained,
but he didn't make much
704
00:39:29,958 --> 00:39:32,333
in the way of money.
So, in order to make money,
705
00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:34,750
he painted, in the style
of Margaret Keane,
706
00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:37,542
lots of pictures
of small children,
707
00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:41,667
sort of street urchins,
crying girls, crying boys,
708
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:46,833
and these sold to tourists
in post-war Italy.
709
00:39:47,042 --> 00:39:49,667
He didn't want to be associated
with these paintings because
710
00:39:49,875 --> 00:39:51,458
he just didn't think they were
very good quality paintings,
711
00:39:51,625 --> 00:39:55,167
so he came up with a name,
712
00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:59,500
his nom de guerre
as Giovanni Bragolin,
713
00:39:59,667 --> 00:40:02,458
which was actually,
apparently, his uncle's name.
714
00:40:02,625 --> 00:40:04,833
No one knew
who this Bragolin was.
715
00:40:05,042 --> 00:40:08,083
He didn't have
a biography in the way that
716
00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:10,333
many other
well-known artists did.
717
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,583
So, there's that
element of mystery.
718
00:40:14,625 --> 00:40:18,167
And one of the stories
about the Crying Boy Curse
719
00:40:18,375 --> 00:40:20,333
is that the child in the
painting
720
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:22,708
is trapped inside the painting
721
00:40:22,875 --> 00:40:24,958
and that the only way that
the child or the spirit
722
00:40:25,167 --> 00:40:28,000
of that child can free itself
is by setting fire
723
00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:29,833
to its surroundings,
724
00:40:30,042 --> 00:40:32,542
and that's the way
it escapes from the painting.
725
00:40:35,667 --> 00:40:38,208
SHATNER:
Recently, forensic investigators
726
00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:41,208
studying the so-called
curse of The Crying Boy
727
00:40:41,375 --> 00:40:44,417
have raised a new possibility
as to how the painting
728
00:40:44,542 --> 00:40:46,667
has come to survive
so many housefires.
729
00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:51,667
And it has nothing to
do with a supposed curse.
730
00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:54,167
There was some investigation
done on these paintings,
731
00:40:54,333 --> 00:40:59,000
and they were actually coated
with fire-retardant material.
732
00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:01,833
And that could just be
the reason that they didn't burn
733
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,750
and the other aspects
of the locations did burn.
734
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:08,333
You plant an idea,
whether it's in a newspaper,
735
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:12,250
in a book,
or via Twitter or Facebook,
736
00:41:12,417 --> 00:41:15,792
suggesting that there's
something eerie,
737
00:41:15,917 --> 00:41:18,500
or there's bad luck
that's circulating around
738
00:41:18,667 --> 00:41:20,875
a particular object or painting,
739
00:41:21,042 --> 00:41:24,417
and you're almost guaranteed
to get people saying,
740
00:41:24,583 --> 00:41:25,958
"Yes, I've had bad luck."
741
00:41:26,125 --> 00:41:28,458
And that's exactly what happened
in the 1980s with
742
00:41:28,667 --> 00:41:30,083
the Curse of the Crying Boy.
743
00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:34,167
So, what do you think?
744
00:41:34,375 --> 00:41:37,250
Are dark forces
just a manifestation
745
00:41:37,417 --> 00:41:39,875
of human fears,
and nothing more?
746
00:41:41,875 --> 00:41:46,125
Or are we surrounded by
invisible and malevolent energy
747
00:41:46,333 --> 00:41:47,792
that we don't fully understand?
748
00:41:47,958 --> 00:41:50,667
Well, until we know for sure,
749
00:41:50,792 --> 00:41:53,667
perhaps it's best to listen
closely when our instincts
750
00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:56,333
warn us about deadly powers
751
00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:59,333
that remain...
752
00:41:59,458 --> 00:42:01,583
Unexplained.
753
00:42:02,583 --> 00:42:04,042
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