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I'm writing in exile
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from a dark and distant planet
called Earth.
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My story begins in Andromeda,
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a galaxy where
we practiced meditation,
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telepathic communication,
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and the knowledge and management
of energy.
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Andromeda was part
of the universe hierarchy,
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a group of developed civilisations
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made up of an infinity of galaxies,
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whose purpose was the evolution
of the spirit.
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Travelling anywhere in the hierarchy
was allowed,
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but there was a prohibited area
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made up of young
and unstable planets.
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My companion and I set off
to discover other places
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and develop our knowledge this way.
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We were overcome
with a supernatural love
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and decided that we had
become gods.
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We're with Jacobo Grinberg,
psychophysiologist
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and professor of psychology
at University of Mexico.
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He has written more than 36 books.
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Neurophysiologist at Mexico
University, Jacobo Grinberg
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is a specialist in the
relationship of mind and matter.
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He has studied the
paranormal capacities of yogis and
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shamans, telepathic communication,
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and children's extraocular vision.
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He established the
theory of ''syntergy''.
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Jacobo Grinberg was an
avid researcher,
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and an enthusiast
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of his theoretical construction,
and experiments
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on psychic physiology,
and quantum physics.
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When you see a light,
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it's actually your consciousness
that's experiencing
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the luminous quality.
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The light doesn't exist
externally or internally,
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it doesn't exist as
a physical phenomenon,
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as such, as light.
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What exists in space is
a series of
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electromagnetic waves
and photonic changes.
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Nor does it exist in cerebral
activity as light.
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As light, in that perceptual quality,
it's consciousness.
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I knew about the Jacobo
Grinberg case from
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a note that appeared in the
Mexican newspaper Reforma.
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My initial attraction was
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the crime or supposed crime
of his disappearance.
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I have always liked
sensationalist news.
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I've been doing these articles
for years,
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but these kinds of articles
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only work if there's an interesting
story behind them.
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We don't have anything,
we have no body,
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we have no blood,
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fingerprints, or any evidence
that a crime took place.
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I think I was the last person
to see him alive.
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Near the end of the year,
he asked me to arrange
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the possibility for him to go
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to a meditation retreat
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with my teacher, Tsoknyi Rinpoche,
in the Kathmandu Valley, Nepal.
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Correct, he went to India.
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In fact, he told me:
''I'm going to India, to Nepal.''
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I spoke to his wife by phone
on 12th December,
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and I said:
''I called to say bye,
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and congratulate you''
and so on.
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''Your dad has already left'',
she said.
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So, I didn't talk to him.
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His birthday was 12th December.
There was a party
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but he didn't come.
But Jacobo was like that.
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He didn't show up all week,
not even Thursday
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for his first seminar,
and he's never missed one ever.
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It was strange,
but we said:
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''Maybe his flight's delayed,
or he's still in India.''
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He didn't contact any of us,
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not phone the laboratory,
nothing.
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Time passed by.
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There were almost no signs
that Jacobo was still alive.
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I spoke to his
brothers after 3 months
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of not having heard from him.
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I asked: ''What about Jacobo?
It's unusual.
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Something's up.''
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It's the first time
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there's been no activity
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on his credit cards
during his absence,
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Estusha doesn't know where he is.
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This alarmed me.
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And then we realized...
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We were put in contact
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with the government and
the Attorney General,
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and a special team
was put together to find Jacobo.
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I work for the LA Times,
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the largest newspaper
in Western United States.
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I know from my career as a journalist,
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that the first 3-4 days after
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a disappearance are key.
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After, it's very
difficult to find the person,
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especially if they're dead.
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They would have had clues
if we'd got there earlier.
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A really good team
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led by Padilla,
the Chief Superintendent,
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took charge
of a legal investigation,
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to find out what happened.
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Chief Superintendent,
I'm doing a project on Jacobo.
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I'm interested
to know your opinion,
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and your point of view
about this story.
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Our meetings
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weren't very open.
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I mean, he always
took certain precautions.
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I don't know why.
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I guess it was his
profession or something.
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He must have always
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taken those precautions.
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Clemente, tell us how...
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How did you find out about the case?
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It was assigned directly
by the Attorney General,
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Jose Antonio Fernรกndez
Gonzรกlez.
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He asked for the best.
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The Attorney General
told me he was going to give me
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a very special case. There had
to be a thorough investigation
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to look for death, a murder,
or kidnapping.
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It needed
special attention.
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We needed something solid
to go on.
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We started with house inquiries.
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We had authorised access,
and permission to break in.
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We found his things
as they would normally be,
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as if he hadn't left,
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as if the doctor
wasn't going anywhere.
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It's since May '95
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that we've had the case,
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that we started
a thorough investigation,
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because it was presumed
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a homicide
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committed by his wife.
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Marรญa Teresa,
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who was on the run.
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The last time I saw Jacobo
I interviewed him
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on radio Centro.
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When we saw each other
he told me:
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''I can't bear Teresa anymore.
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I'm on very bad terms with her.''
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And then, I never heard
from him again.
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Jacobo...
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told me:
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''I'm afraid of my wife, Tere.
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I don't sleep at home.''
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He had a van, or something like that.
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''I don't want to see her,
she scares me.''
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He used to sleep in the van,
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and he also had other places to go
that were fully equipped,
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where he could sleep,
instead of at the house
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with Marรญa Teresa.
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Tere's bouts of anger
totally consumed her.
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Her emotion took over
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and she became very violent.
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He said he feared
for his life.
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He told me:
''I'm counting on you
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if anything happens to me.''
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That is almost the last thing
I remember about Jacobo.
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I received a phone call
on 13th December
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from his wife Teresa,
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saying he wasn't
returning to the laboratory
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and they were going on holiday.
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They had planned to go to Campeche
at the end of the year,
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and then go to India.
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The police searched
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airline company documents,
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and it seemed like they hadn't left.
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So, he disappeared.
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The ticket was unused, he didn't get
to Nepal and wasn't seen there.
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He didn't arrive.
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There are no documents
of his exit from Mexico,
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this was investigated.
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No emigration document
for his departure,
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and no arrival
document in Nepal.
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We went to Israel for a year
and really got to know each other,
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and became a couple.
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We were in a kibbutz
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next to Gaza.
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These are the towers where they
watched over the kibbutz.
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Curious, he was always very curious
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from the start.
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I think that was what
I liked most about Jacobo.
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The interests that Jacobo
had throughout his work
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and developed
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actually began on that journey
to Israel
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in a meeting he had
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with a spiritualist!
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In the kibbutz, there was a man
who used a ouija board.
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It was his first encounter with the
mysterious and esoteric world.
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Things happened to Jacobo,
a spirit told him
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that his watch would stop
at a certain time, and it did.
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I think this was the first time
his curiosity was sparked:
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realising another
reality exists, wondering
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how to understand it,
and how to study it.
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I feel like a channel of God.
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A channel of light.
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I don't think I do it.
I am the medium.
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I met Jacobo because
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of our communication system
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and the channels we all have.
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It's true that some people manage
to keep them open,
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and see people
without using their eyes.
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I think it was in the 70s
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when Jacobo started
training children
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in extra-ocular vision
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through touch.
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For example,
if we take this book,
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he could say what was on the back.
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I saw that with my own eyes.
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Skin vision. I mean, the gifts and
channels that keep these children open
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are much more open than in adults.
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But the children
started to see nasty things.
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Nasty things.
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And this scared them.
The children gave up
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because it connected
them with other realities,
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with other dimensions.
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Here's Bosque in La Venta.
I'm sure my cousin is here.
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What can you do with this?
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San Josรฉ Purga. I remember
we went there with him too.
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We're all looking here,
he's looking up.
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This is his father, this is Nartรกn,
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these are my brothers.
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He was...
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in outer space,
and his feet weren't on the ground.
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It was like he was always floating.
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He was on another plane
completely.
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Since he was a boy
he was experimenting
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with petrol engine planes,
he was always doing things.
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Radios with bulbs.
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Later he made a bomb,
buried it in the garden
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and blew it all up.
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It was fantastic, he was always
investigating, and very restless.
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He was very affected
by my mother's death
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because he was the eldest.
My mother had cancer for 5 years,
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during which she lost her hair
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and her sight due to the treatments
she was given at the time.
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This happened during the 50s.
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Once, when we were older,
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he told me that
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as a child he wanted her to die,
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because he couldn't just be.
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Out on the street playing,
we were also told not to shout.
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His infancy was cut short,
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he didn't enjoy his childhood.
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He lived stuck to my mother
while she was on her way out.
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She was really beautiful,
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but she died at the very
young age of 35,
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and he was 13.
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Whether your mother dies or not,
you end up losing her.
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If you can't come to terms with it,
you'll keep looking for a mother
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in other women.
That's what he did.
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He fell in love with one,
and then another, and another,
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he pursued her, and then he left
or they left him.
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It was complicated to relate to him.
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A lot of things bothered Jacobo,
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like his relationships with women
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that he never could resolve.
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We don't know if the last woman
led him to his death
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because he didn't know
who she really was.
258
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He was seen at
the start of December,
259
00:21:59,795 --> 00:22:01,395
and then never again.
260
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But his wife was seen;
they saw Teresa
261
00:22:04,875 --> 00:22:07,555
8 days later getting
stuff from home.
262
00:22:07,675 --> 00:22:10,395
Later, she was spotted
cashing a cheque.
263
00:22:10,475 --> 00:22:13,595
Teresa was seen at
their home,
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picking up some things.
265
00:22:16,315 --> 00:22:19,515
When Jacobo disappeared,
266
00:22:19,635 --> 00:22:20,635
he vanished.
267
00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:23,475
We know nothing of him
since the 8th December.
268
00:22:23,595 --> 00:22:25,795
But Tere appeared
269
00:22:25,915 --> 00:22:28,475
on the 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 14th,
270
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and the 20th.
After a month she was still around,
271
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calm, in good spirits.
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Chief Superintendent Padilla
273
00:22:36,595 --> 00:22:40,595
bugged Teresa's phone;
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it's forbidden,
but he did anyway.
275
00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:47,075
We notified the Government Prosecutor
for instructions
276
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to arrest someone
277
00:22:50,595 --> 00:22:55,315
linked to Marรญa Teresa's calls.
278
00:22:55,835 --> 00:22:58,395
He was a school caretaker.
279
00:22:58,555 --> 00:23:02,915
He looked paramilitary,
had paramilitary training,
280
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karate training,
wore military boots.
281
00:23:06,355 --> 00:23:08,115
It's unusual, unlikely,
282
00:23:08,275 --> 00:23:11,315
to find this in a school caretaker.
283
00:23:12,515 --> 00:23:15,515
They caught a guy who
was Teresa's assistant.
284
00:23:16,475 --> 00:23:18,995
He was weird,
it was like he was
285
00:23:19,075 --> 00:23:21,595
ill due to the odd way he walked.
286
00:23:21,715 --> 00:23:24,155
He did all Teresa's jobs.
Who knows
287
00:23:24,275 --> 00:23:25,755
if they were
clean or dirty jobs.
288
00:23:25,875 --> 00:23:27,555
I remember the arrest.
289
00:23:27,715 --> 00:23:30,915
We asked him about
Teresa and Dr. Grinberg.
290
00:23:31,075 --> 00:23:35,315
He denied everything until
the end of the investigation in '96.
291
00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:38,115
He was the main suspect.
292
00:23:38,675 --> 00:23:42,115
Teresa probably killed Jacobo,
she had to be found.
293
00:23:42,275 --> 00:23:43,675
Teresa disappeared.
294
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If there was no connection
she'd also be looking for him.
295
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I don't know why she disappeared,
never to appear again.
296
00:24:01,435 --> 00:24:03,475
The housekeeper said
297
00:24:04,195 --> 00:24:09,115
that Marรญa Teresa was
accompanied by a blonde woman,
298
00:24:09,235 --> 00:24:12,555
took the dining furniture and
her personal effects,
299
00:24:12,875 --> 00:24:15,635
and left the house with their dog.
300
00:24:16,675 --> 00:24:21,075
She had a blonde friend
who was a witch.
301
00:24:21,355 --> 00:24:25,395
It's significant that she was
always with a blonde woman.
302
00:24:27,755 --> 00:24:29,795
Her mother always denied
303
00:24:29,915 --> 00:24:32,355
seeing Teresa.
304
00:24:32,435 --> 00:24:36,275
There is evidence
of phone calls between
305
00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:39,955
Teresa and her mother
after Jacobo disappeared.
306
00:24:43,875 --> 00:24:47,755
Between 15th October and
1st December,
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there are 11 calls
with a total of 65 minutes,
308
00:24:52,515 --> 00:24:54,715
despite her claims
she hasn't heard
309
00:24:54,835 --> 00:24:58,515
from her daughter since 1982.
310
00:25:00,435 --> 00:25:02,595
She was obviously lying.
311
00:25:02,715 --> 00:25:05,955
She was probably
withholding something too.
312
00:25:14,715 --> 00:25:16,835
There were sightings of her
313
00:25:17,075 --> 00:25:19,115
in the north
of the republic,
314
00:25:19,235 --> 00:25:22,995
and in places
where she had relatives.
315
00:25:23,395 --> 00:25:25,515
This is in the police report.
316
00:25:26,795 --> 00:25:28,875
The last time Teresa's mother
317
00:25:28,995 --> 00:25:31,675
was in contact with her
318
00:25:31,835 --> 00:25:34,035
was the 10th May '95.
319
00:25:34,155 --> 00:25:36,035
The conversation lasted
10 minutes
320
00:25:36,155 --> 00:25:39,755
from Baja California,
to her mother's house.
321
00:25:40,675 --> 00:25:43,275
I sent officers to the address.
322
00:25:43,395 --> 00:25:46,835
They flew to Tijuana,
journeyed to Rosarito,
323
00:25:47,035 --> 00:25:50,115
but Teresa Mendoza was gone.
324
00:25:50,355 --> 00:25:52,995
Why isn't she there?
Who warned her?
325
00:25:54,915 --> 00:25:58,235
He disappeared,
his wife is a fugitive,
326
00:25:58,355 --> 00:25:59,955
and her mother is lying.
327
00:26:00,475 --> 00:26:02,475
We know many things,
328
00:26:02,675 --> 00:26:04,675
but we couldn't
act legally,
329
00:26:04,795 --> 00:26:06,595
the law protects them.
330
00:26:06,755 --> 00:26:09,235
That's the law and besides,
331
00:26:09,355 --> 00:26:10,955
there's no body.
332
00:26:11,475 --> 00:26:13,275
I asked the detective
333
00:26:13,355 --> 00:26:16,875
what he thought,
even off the record:
334
00:26:17,515 --> 00:26:19,875
Was there was a plan?
335
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:21,755
''This was planned'', he said,
336
00:26:21,875 --> 00:26:24,275
but why and by whom,
he didn't know.
337
00:26:24,715 --> 00:26:27,275
It's significant that he
believed it a plan.
338
00:26:27,395 --> 00:26:29,715
- Yes.
- Not a crime of passion.
339
00:26:29,835 --> 00:26:33,035
Well, here's the important information
340
00:26:33,155 --> 00:26:37,315
that makes me think,
or at least from what Padilla said
341
00:26:37,475 --> 00:26:41,395
makes me think it wasn't
a crime of passion:
342
00:26:41,595 --> 00:26:45,915
When they searched
one of Jacobo's houses,
343
00:26:46,235 --> 00:26:50,235
they discovered the CPUs
and mainframes were missing.
344
00:26:52,715 --> 00:26:57,035
We saw that the mainframe
of the computer was missing,
345
00:26:57,195 --> 00:27:00,235
there wasn't a single
floppy or compact disc
346
00:27:00,755 --> 00:27:02,675
or CD Rom.
347
00:27:02,875 --> 00:27:07,875
The books and theses
he was working on were gone
348
00:27:09,435 --> 00:27:11,475
from all the houses
349
00:27:11,595 --> 00:27:12,875
we searched.
350
00:27:12,995 --> 00:27:17,715
If it was theft, that means
someone was especially interested
351
00:27:17,835 --> 00:27:21,275
in Jacobo's line of investigation.
352
00:27:37,435 --> 00:27:41,435
We interact with
an informational matrix,
353
00:27:41,555 --> 00:27:43,715
with an informational field,
354
00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:49,955
that contains all the information
in each one of its sections.
355
00:27:50,075 --> 00:27:53,475
It's a kind of holographic
informational matrix.
356
00:27:54,195 --> 00:27:56,755
The brain interacts with this field
357
00:27:56,875 --> 00:28:00,075
and the end result
of this cerebral processing
358
00:28:00,195 --> 00:28:03,315
is the perceptual reality
that appears
359
00:28:03,435 --> 00:28:05,115
as we know it:
360
00:28:05,235 --> 00:28:10,395
Objects with their colours,
shapes and textures.
361
00:29:14,835 --> 00:29:18,595
Jacobo went to New York
to do a PhD,
362
00:29:18,835 --> 00:29:23,515
and this is when he began earnestly
363
00:29:23,635 --> 00:29:26,755
to look for answers.
364
00:29:27,195 --> 00:29:29,715
I don't mean non-scientific,
365
00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:33,475
but para-scientific
or meta-scientific.
366
00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:37,195
Jacobo and I separated.
367
00:29:37,755 --> 00:29:40,875
He decided to go to New York.
368
00:29:42,555 --> 00:29:45,515
It was a huge change.
He separated from his wife,
369
00:29:45,755 --> 00:29:47,675
and with the separation,
370
00:29:48,195 --> 00:29:54,275
and also the influence
of counter-culture,
371
00:29:55,435 --> 00:29:56,715
he changed.
372
00:30:00,995 --> 00:30:04,835
He grew a beard and didn't study
what he used to study.
373
00:30:05,435 --> 00:30:09,275
He changed the focus of his studies
to consciousness,
374
00:30:09,555 --> 00:30:13,835
and whether there was something
that united all human beings.
375
00:30:15,635 --> 00:30:20,155
Everyone in New York
knew about Roy John.
376
00:30:21,035 --> 00:30:25,515
He was very interesting,
doing really advanced stuff.
377
00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:30,795
He also met the creator
of holography.
378
00:30:30,995 --> 00:30:34,355
Then he found a
group of friends
379
00:30:34,475 --> 00:30:37,315
who were also scientists,
380
00:30:37,435 --> 00:30:39,475
and were experimenting
381
00:30:39,635 --> 00:30:43,955
with similar things,
like LSD trips.
382
00:30:44,075 --> 00:30:45,795
In some way,
383
00:30:45,915 --> 00:30:49,715
those trips affected him,
384
00:30:49,835 --> 00:30:51,795
the way he perceived things.
385
00:30:51,995 --> 00:30:54,875
He accepted things he came across,
386
00:30:54,995 --> 00:31:00,315
and always wanted to
add them to his body of research.
387
00:31:00,475 --> 00:31:03,155
Jacobo took off
after meeting Roy John.
388
00:31:03,315 --> 00:31:07,275
When he got to New York
to start his PhD.
389
00:31:07,355 --> 00:31:09,195
He told me:
390
00:31:09,555 --> 00:31:12,995
''Sometimes I go cycling
in New York,
391
00:31:13,115 --> 00:31:14,675
I close my eyes,
392
00:31:15,155 --> 00:31:20,395
cross a road full of traffic
on my bike,
393
00:31:21,155 --> 00:31:24,915
and if I don't
get knocked down or die,
394
00:31:24,995 --> 00:31:26,955
I know I'm not meant to die
395
00:31:27,595 --> 00:31:29,835
and I'm here for a reason.''
396
00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:33,315
He did these experiments,
and I said:
397
00:31:33,595 --> 00:31:37,715
''Jacobo, don't!
You're going to die like that,
398
00:31:37,915 --> 00:31:39,715
and we need you.''
399
00:31:39,875 --> 00:31:42,795
I would say: ''You're going
to win a Nobel Prize.
400
00:31:43,035 --> 00:31:45,875
I'm sure you're going to win a Nobel.''
401
00:31:47,555 --> 00:31:49,675
Do you accept the possibility
of these events?
402
00:31:49,755 --> 00:31:52,195
He said: ''I don't
I accept the possibility,
403
00:31:52,315 --> 00:31:53,875
I said they are real.''
404
00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:57,675
I didn't believe this until
my hands were soaked
405
00:31:57,755 --> 00:32:00,515
in Pachita's blood.
There's Grinberg,
406
00:32:00,915 --> 00:32:03,635
who has experienced
hours and hours too...
407
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:05,635
Why don't you explain
408
00:32:05,755 --> 00:32:07,435
who Pachita is?
409
00:32:07,555 --> 00:32:09,155
Pachita is a Mexican healer
410
00:32:09,315 --> 00:32:11,955
who opened bodies,
skulls, with a knife,
411
00:32:12,075 --> 00:32:13,635
and pulled stuff out.
412
00:32:13,835 --> 00:32:15,515
I'm a scientist,
413
00:32:15,635 --> 00:32:19,715
I have a laboratory,
I study cerebral activity,
414
00:32:19,835 --> 00:32:21,395
cerebral physiology.
415
00:32:21,515 --> 00:32:24,515
I was invited
to meet Pachita,
416
00:32:24,635 --> 00:32:27,835
and her operations.
And what I saw there
417
00:32:28,475 --> 00:32:30,515
initially contradicted
418
00:32:30,755 --> 00:32:32,915
my whole concept
419
00:32:33,075 --> 00:32:35,635
and knowledge I had
about reality.
420
00:32:42,835 --> 00:32:46,435
The sister of Lรณpez Portillo,
the President of Mexico,
421
00:32:46,835 --> 00:32:49,995
met him at the university,
and she says:
422
00:32:50,155 --> 00:32:54,235
''Jacobo, I'm going to
help with your research
423
00:32:54,315 --> 00:32:56,555
more than you think.
424
00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:59,995
Come to the National Palace
425
00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:03,315
and I'll introduce you
to someone who
426
00:33:03,435 --> 00:33:04,995
will help you a lot.''
427
00:33:05,315 --> 00:33:09,875
Margarita was a totally
mystic person.
428
00:33:10,235 --> 00:33:14,075
They all lived in the
presidential building Los Pinos.
429
00:33:15,755 --> 00:33:18,395
The guards let them through,
430
00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:22,235
he was to be welcomed by
the president's sister,
431
00:33:22,355 --> 00:33:24,315
Margarita Lรณpez Portillo.
432
00:33:24,435 --> 00:33:29,795
They were in a garden full of cages
with birds of Mexico,
433
00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:33,275
when suddenly all the birds
started singing
434
00:33:33,475 --> 00:33:35,475
in unison.
435
00:33:38,315 --> 00:33:41,475
They see a short woman with
native features
436
00:33:41,595 --> 00:33:43,595
walking towards them.
437
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:45,435
It was Pachita.
438
00:33:45,995 --> 00:33:48,355
Jacobo was impressed
439
00:33:48,555 --> 00:33:50,555
by all that Pachita
says she does.
440
00:33:50,675 --> 00:33:56,075
To meet her in Los Pinos
was even more impressive,
441
00:33:56,195 --> 00:33:59,235
what was a woman like her doing
in Los Pinos?
442
00:34:00,395 --> 00:34:03,795
Pachita invited him to
see her operations,
443
00:34:03,915 --> 00:34:06,795
magical and impressive,
444
00:34:07,515 --> 00:34:09,675
and Jacobo goes straight away.
445
00:34:09,835 --> 00:34:14,235
What I really remember
is that he used to come back
446
00:34:14,395 --> 00:34:17,995
at midnight with his lab coats
447
00:34:18,075 --> 00:34:20,715
all bloodstained.
448
00:34:25,675 --> 00:34:29,115
Someone said:
''I am Dr. Jacobo Grinberg,
449
00:34:29,715 --> 00:34:32,195
I'm studying Pachita,
and I found out
450
00:34:32,315 --> 00:34:36,115
you were her last assistant,
I'd like to speak to you.''
451
00:34:36,235 --> 00:34:37,355
''Yes, sure.''
452
00:34:38,675 --> 00:34:42,795
He was very
interested in my experience.
453
00:34:49,115 --> 00:34:50,955
She removed and replaced vertebrae.
454
00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:54,315
She operated on things that were
inoperable.
455
00:34:54,675 --> 00:34:56,475
She could open your skull,
456
00:34:56,875 --> 00:35:00,235
spine, or remove a vertebra,
replace it,
457
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:01,755
and you left walking.
458
00:35:02,835 --> 00:35:06,755
I assisted so many
operation sessions over 2 years,
459
00:35:07,195 --> 00:35:10,315
holding a cotton pad
in my hands or alcohol.
460
00:35:10,915 --> 00:35:14,555
The more I observed
and looked, and looked again,
461
00:35:15,275 --> 00:35:17,235
the woman had ability.
462
00:35:18,795 --> 00:35:21,315
She used a hunting knife
to make a cut
463
00:35:21,475 --> 00:35:23,915
that she could have done
with her hand,
464
00:35:23,995 --> 00:35:27,075
but used it for people
to see she used a tool.
465
00:35:27,555 --> 00:35:29,355
She said she was a medium,
466
00:35:29,955 --> 00:35:33,835
and that she really had
special spiritual abilities,
467
00:35:34,155 --> 00:35:37,395
and believed she was
the last Aztec king.
468
00:35:38,115 --> 00:35:42,155
The spirit of the last
Aztec king was inside her.
469
00:36:15,115 --> 00:36:17,595
What I learnt was that
I can't say what
470
00:36:17,715 --> 00:36:19,835
the limit of human capacity is.
471
00:36:20,195 --> 00:36:22,595
Since that experience
I wouldn't dare say
472
00:36:22,715 --> 00:36:24,875
that human beings can't do this,
473
00:36:24,995 --> 00:36:28,435
or the brain has such a limit
to its potentiality,
474
00:36:28,555 --> 00:36:34,515
but rather it seems that we are
in a continuous infinity,
475
00:36:34,715 --> 00:36:37,315
and we don't know
where it ends.
476
00:36:37,875 --> 00:36:41,315
It was significant
for Jacobo
477
00:36:41,435 --> 00:36:43,995
when he broke with scientific canons
478
00:36:44,075 --> 00:36:49,755
because he said: ''If the canons
are unable to explain this,
479
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:53,435
then what use are they?
I have to explain it in a way
480
00:36:53,595 --> 00:36:54,755
by my science.''
481
00:36:55,035 --> 00:36:57,875
Science isn't defined by subject,
482
00:36:58,115 --> 00:37:00,355
it's defined by method.
483
00:37:00,555 --> 00:37:03,395
You can research what
you want, good or bad.
484
00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:06,475
You investigate well
that's science,
485
00:37:06,595 --> 00:37:09,515
you investigate badly,
you're a charlatan.
486
00:37:09,715 --> 00:37:12,235
He pushed boundaries,
and of course
487
00:37:12,395 --> 00:37:14,315
it caused him
many problems.
488
00:37:14,475 --> 00:37:18,635
Colleagues asked what was
a scientist doing in this research?
489
00:37:18,755 --> 00:37:21,995
A psychophysiologist?
But he dared.
490
00:37:22,355 --> 00:37:26,035
He always went back to the laboratory.
491
00:37:26,195 --> 00:37:28,835
The scientists saw him
as a shaman.
492
00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:31,995
The shamans saw
a scientist.
493
00:37:32,155 --> 00:37:34,635
He was between two worlds.
It was hard.
494
00:37:41,155 --> 00:37:42,755
The brain,
495
00:37:43,075 --> 00:37:46,515
when interacting with this pre-spatial
informational field,
496
00:37:46,635 --> 00:37:49,115
creates the perceptual reality.
497
00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:53,835
Once created, this reality
actually exists.
498
00:37:54,195 --> 00:37:56,315
What we are seeing,
499
00:37:56,435 --> 00:37:59,075
colours and shapes, exist,
500
00:37:59,195 --> 00:38:01,915
but they exist as a consciousness.
501
00:38:02,035 --> 00:38:04,595
In accordance with this idea, Pachita
502
00:38:04,755 --> 00:38:07,875
was situated in this
consciousness directly.
503
00:38:07,995 --> 00:38:10,835
The laws of consciousness
that we call the world,
504
00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:14,115
which in fact is pure consciousness,
505
00:38:14,355 --> 00:38:16,515
were managed
by her in some way.
506
00:38:16,635 --> 00:38:19,115
All science is
a Faustian pact.
507
00:38:19,235 --> 00:38:23,355
He would try to dominate
forces that go beyond it.
508
00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:26,835
He would try with
technology, in the lab itself,
509
00:38:26,995 --> 00:38:30,075
looking for an answer that eludes
510
00:38:30,195 --> 00:38:32,195
the resources available.
511
00:38:32,275 --> 00:38:33,995
But in the Grinberg case
512
00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:38,995
if you search too desperately
one risks getting burned.
513
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:42,075
All mythological structure
warns us
514
00:38:42,395 --> 00:38:45,235
that getting too close to the truth,
515
00:38:45,355 --> 00:38:49,875
or to a reality for
which we are not prepared,
516
00:38:50,235 --> 00:38:53,195
is a reality that can destroy us.
517
00:38:57,275 --> 00:38:59,835
Margarita isn't just
the president's sister
518
00:38:59,955 --> 00:39:03,435
she was very influential,
519
00:39:04,555 --> 00:39:08,075
and Jacobo had a lot of
influence on Margarita.
520
00:39:08,755 --> 00:39:11,155
So, Jacobo suddenly becomes
521
00:39:12,035 --> 00:39:13,515
someone
522
00:39:13,835 --> 00:39:17,675
with a direct access,
and with an influence.
523
00:39:19,435 --> 00:39:22,155
To my knowledge,
there was a request
524
00:39:22,275 --> 00:39:26,875
not to announce the meeting
between Jacobo and Pachita.
525
00:39:28,035 --> 00:39:29,275
Why?
526
00:39:29,475 --> 00:39:31,155
Why not?
527
00:39:31,755 --> 00:39:34,395
If Pachita was in Los Pinos,
528
00:39:34,475 --> 00:39:36,995
and if they used shamans
529
00:39:38,155 --> 00:39:42,515
to cure someone in Los Pinos,
well, who cares?
530
00:39:42,635 --> 00:39:45,715
Everyone in Mexico
goes to shamans.
531
00:40:15,155 --> 00:40:16,995
We made TV programmes,
532
00:40:17,435 --> 00:40:20,275
newspaper articles, interviews...
533
00:40:22,995 --> 00:40:25,355
trying to get information.
534
00:40:28,035 --> 00:40:31,195
Look, this is a photo
of me and my dad.
535
00:40:32,595 --> 00:40:36,075
Something was wrong,
my dad didn't turn up.
536
00:40:36,155 --> 00:40:40,755
What was going on? We were
looking for him everywhere.
537
00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:45,075
I was part of a music group
and I made music.
538
00:40:45,195 --> 00:40:47,115
I worked as a musician,
539
00:40:47,235 --> 00:40:52,515
and back then I was in a group
called Cielo y Tierra.
540
00:40:52,675 --> 00:40:54,955
We were promoting our music
541
00:40:55,515 --> 00:40:58,235
so we were on many TV programmes.
542
00:40:58,395 --> 00:41:04,395
On ''Siempre en Domingo'',
I asked permission to show
543
00:41:04,955 --> 00:41:07,715
my dad's photo to see
if anyone had seen him,
544
00:41:07,835 --> 00:41:10,315
and to contact me if so.
545
00:41:22,235 --> 00:41:24,515
The programme
''Siempre en Domingo''
546
00:41:24,635 --> 00:41:26,115
was very famous in Mexico.
547
00:41:26,315 --> 00:41:28,755
His photo was shown
and people began to talk,
548
00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:31,995
as expected, as people
always think they
549
00:41:32,195 --> 00:41:35,555
have information. There was one
who was more credible
550
00:41:35,675 --> 00:41:39,115
or at least the Chief
Superintendent thought so.
551
00:41:40,235 --> 00:41:44,235
Padilla went to see a janitor
who cleaned in Boulder, Colorado.
552
00:41:44,395 --> 00:41:48,595
He was Mexican
and worked in a laboratory,
553
00:41:48,675 --> 00:41:51,275
apparently a secret laboratory.
554
00:41:53,835 --> 00:41:57,475
This guy said he saw
Jacobo in this place,
555
00:41:57,595 --> 00:41:59,355
Boulder, in Colorado.
556
00:41:59,515 --> 00:42:01,595
Jacobo never would
have left Estusha.
557
00:42:01,955 --> 00:42:06,155
And that was when
that witness pointed out
558
00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:08,595
that Jacobo and Marรญa Teresa
559
00:42:08,715 --> 00:42:11,235
were accompanied by the blonde,
560
00:42:11,355 --> 00:42:14,275
and two FBI agents
escorting Grinberg
561
00:42:14,755 --> 00:42:16,875
in Boulder, Colorado.
562
00:42:17,795 --> 00:42:22,155
It was a private jet from which
several agents got out of,
563
00:42:22,715 --> 00:42:26,195
and someone who was
my cousin according to him.
564
00:42:26,755 --> 00:42:27,875
Cousin Jacobo.
565
00:42:28,355 --> 00:42:31,395
And they took him by car,
according to him.
566
00:42:43,075 --> 00:42:45,315
According to the circumstances
and the way
567
00:42:45,475 --> 00:42:47,395
in which it occurred,
568
00:42:47,555 --> 00:42:49,395
this wasn't a voluntary disappearance.
569
00:42:50,875 --> 00:42:52,995
This is why it's serious.
570
00:42:53,435 --> 00:42:56,075
We're saying that there were forces
571
00:42:57,515 --> 00:43:01,475
that planned this disappearance
very well indeed.
572
00:43:02,515 --> 00:43:08,275
It likely points to blackmail,
coercion, or extortion to extract
573
00:43:08,635 --> 00:43:12,995
the secrets of his experiments
for a specific objective.
574
00:43:13,235 --> 00:43:17,355
There are several combinations,
and there is a mixture
575
00:43:17,515 --> 00:43:20,555
of probable factors
pointing to kidnapping.
576
00:43:22,435 --> 00:43:25,795
When you think about it...
577
00:43:25,915 --> 00:43:31,395
if consciousness is not local
and you want to exploit the idea
578
00:43:31,555 --> 00:43:34,755
and influence this consciousness...
579
00:43:35,955 --> 00:43:38,195
Many people were
very interested in
580
00:43:39,315 --> 00:43:41,235
influencing the
collective consciousness.
581
00:43:46,755 --> 00:43:50,315
The studies were
very complex and very long.
582
00:43:50,555 --> 00:43:54,555
Jacobo Grinberg has spent many years
dedicated to shamans,
583
00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:56,475
the interaction
of mind and matter.
584
00:43:56,635 --> 00:43:59,995
Where are you up to
with your investigations?
585
00:44:00,475 --> 00:44:03,275
I'm still in the laboratory,
working hard
586
00:44:03,395 --> 00:44:07,475
because there is much
to do, and many hypotheses to try.
587
00:44:07,595 --> 00:44:11,995
We are currently waiting
for a professor to arrive from India;
588
00:44:12,115 --> 00:44:17,075
a colleague who is very interested
in the study of transferred potential,
589
00:44:17,195 --> 00:44:18,835
brain to brain interaction.
590
00:44:19,195 --> 00:44:23,275
We will try a long-distance
experiment of transferred potential
591
00:44:23,395 --> 00:44:25,755
between India and Mexico.
592
00:45:56,795 --> 00:46:02,315
Aspect proves it, so he emphasises
quantum physics.
593
00:46:02,435 --> 00:46:05,795
And what Jacobo says is:
''Well, if two particles
594
00:46:05,915 --> 00:46:09,795
function this way,
then two brains work like this.''
595
00:46:10,115 --> 00:46:13,315
This is his basis
for transferred potential.
596
00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:39,275
There was someone in Faraday's chamber
in the doctor's lab,
597
00:46:39,755 --> 00:46:41,915
and another
in a different lab.
598
00:46:42,275 --> 00:46:47,275
One of them received a very
clear luminous stimulation.
599
00:46:47,395 --> 00:46:50,875
As expected, and seen in many studies,
600
00:46:50,995 --> 00:46:54,195
there was a peak in activity
in the occipital lobes.
601
00:46:54,275 --> 00:46:58,595
But when we analysed the
graph of the other subject,
602
00:46:58,715 --> 00:47:01,955
who hadn't received any stimulation
and was in the dark,
603
00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:05,475
we also found a peak.
604
00:47:05,595 --> 00:47:09,075
Not on the same scale,
but in the same time
605
00:47:09,195 --> 00:47:11,315
and the same shape.
606
00:48:06,835 --> 00:48:11,395
We had the permission,
the doctor, both teams, everything
607
00:48:11,515 --> 00:48:12,875
and Jacobo disappeared.
608
00:48:25,395 --> 00:48:30,035
Why Boulder?
Well, the only reason we found
609
00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:34,675
is that Rand Corporation
is a subsidiary company
610
00:48:34,795 --> 00:48:37,955
of the US Secretary of State
611
00:48:38,075 --> 00:48:42,715
that controls all science,
discoveries,
612
00:48:42,875 --> 00:48:47,835
and investigations.
The Rand Corporation had even
613
00:48:47,955 --> 00:48:53,275
previously carried out an experiment
with people inside a submarine
614
00:48:54,115 --> 00:48:58,955
who sent messages using their minds
to an external satellite.
615
00:48:59,635 --> 00:49:02,795
So, imagine that someone
comes and tells you:
616
00:49:02,995 --> 00:49:08,355
''I have the formula for
the system.'' Well, if you
617
00:49:08,955 --> 00:49:12,395
don't agree to sell it
for some reason,
618
00:49:14,595 --> 00:49:17,235
I'll take it by force,
and kidnap you.
619
00:49:17,475 --> 00:49:22,355
He told me he started
to touch a nerve.
620
00:49:22,475 --> 00:49:26,155
He wasn't specific,
but they did start to put obstacles
621
00:49:26,315 --> 00:49:29,195
in the way of the investigation.
622
00:49:29,755 --> 00:49:31,035
Who did this?
623
00:49:31,155 --> 00:49:33,035
I guess it was superiors.
624
00:49:33,155 --> 00:49:36,395
Chief Superintendent
Padilla disappeared,
625
00:49:36,675 --> 00:49:37,914
and we were told
626
00:49:37,915 --> 00:49:41,435
there had been a purge
in the Attorney's office.
627
00:49:41,555 --> 00:49:43,715
- During the case?
- Yes.
628
00:49:43,875 --> 00:49:48,795
Padilla and I never...
Just suddenly I couldn't
629
00:49:48,875 --> 00:49:53,795
contact him, not by phone,
even his home phone.
630
00:49:54,275 --> 00:49:55,275
Nothing.
631
00:49:55,435 --> 00:50:00,035
I tried phoning him
on this number with a code...
632
00:50:00,155 --> 00:50:05,355
Obviously nothing. And
I don't have his home number.
633
00:50:06,115 --> 00:50:08,275
He suddenly sends me an email.
634
00:50:08,955 --> 00:50:10,755
Clemente Padilla, wow!
635
00:50:12,195 --> 00:50:15,595
He said the doctor was
in a US mental hospital.
636
00:50:15,755 --> 00:50:21,275
I replied on the same day,
he didn't reply, I never heard from
637
00:50:21,675 --> 00:50:25,795
the detective again,
and this is typical of the case.
638
00:50:26,275 --> 00:50:30,115
It has been like this
from the beginning.
639
00:52:58,355 --> 00:53:01,995
Carlos Castaneda
was from Peru.
640
00:53:02,595 --> 00:53:07,275
He arrived in the US as an immigrant
and was educated in Los Angeles.
641
00:53:07,395 --> 00:53:11,355
He did an Anthopology PhD at
the University of California,
642
00:53:11,475 --> 00:53:15,995
and presented his doctoral thesis
as a book that became a classic
643
00:53:16,515 --> 00:53:19,635
of counter-culture
during the 60s titled:
644
00:53:19,795 --> 00:53:21,515
''The Teachings of Don Juan.''
645
00:53:32,355 --> 00:53:37,595
Castaneda asked me to invite people
who might be interested.
646
00:53:37,755 --> 00:53:41,715
I invited Jacobo,
and they started a great friendship.
647
00:53:41,995 --> 00:53:45,635
Jacobo had the opportunity
to speak to him,
648
00:53:46,235 --> 00:53:49,875
in such profound terms
of knowledge,
649
00:53:50,195 --> 00:53:55,115
that Castaneda himself
was surprised, and applauded.
650
00:53:55,275 --> 00:53:57,755
''Bravo, bravo Jacobo!''
But he understood that.
651
00:53:57,875 --> 00:54:01,995
Castaneda's knowledge was something
that could decipher
652
00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:05,675
the mystery of life, of
human beings, of the world.
653
00:54:05,795 --> 00:54:09,675
He knew that to go further
he had to transform himself.
654
00:54:11,635 --> 00:54:16,435
He knew he had to get away from
the world, and all its temptations.
655
00:54:17,875 --> 00:54:22,035
It was a book of our youth.
656
00:54:22,275 --> 00:54:27,715
Carlos Castaneda was a turning point
because he put you in another reality.
657
00:54:29,475 --> 00:54:33,555
You read the first book, the second,
the third,
658
00:54:33,675 --> 00:54:37,315
he become famous and he used his fame
for many things.
659
00:54:37,475 --> 00:54:40,795
Jacobo loathed this.
660
00:54:41,435 --> 00:54:45,755
Jacobo knew he couldn't detach from
his success, his achievements
661
00:54:45,955 --> 00:54:47,555
nor his daughter, eh!
662
00:54:48,195 --> 00:54:51,195
Castaneda made him see he was
663
00:54:52,675 --> 00:54:57,475
overly dependent on his daughter,
let's say.
664
00:54:58,715 --> 00:55:03,315
There was a woman in this group
who had a son.
665
00:55:03,475 --> 00:55:07,675
She was a single mother,
and Castaneda told her
666
00:55:07,795 --> 00:55:09,995
to leave her son.
667
00:55:10,155 --> 00:55:13,035
To be part of the group,
she had to leave him.
668
00:55:13,155 --> 00:55:16,435
So, my dad began
to realise this,
669
00:55:16,595 --> 00:55:20,475
and he was totally against
Castaneda.
670
00:55:20,635 --> 00:55:25,075
He knew he had to detach
from everything to carry out
671
00:55:25,195 --> 00:55:28,995
a serious process of spiritual
development, to drop everything
672
00:55:29,075 --> 00:55:30,955
and be unknown.
673
00:55:31,755 --> 00:55:36,075
''I felt watched after I decided to
break contact
674
00:55:36,195 --> 00:55:37,595
with Castaneda.
675
00:55:37,835 --> 00:55:40,395
I can't tell you everything
by phone,
676
00:55:40,515 --> 00:55:43,395
but I am a little scared.''
677
00:55:54,435 --> 00:55:58,235
He was a man who
was very interested in power,
678
00:55:58,395 --> 00:56:02,995
in control, and obsessed
with having control over others.
679
00:56:03,115 --> 00:56:07,795
Castaneda told Jacobo that
he was very interested in his mind.
680
00:56:08,835 --> 00:56:12,635
I don't know what that expression
might mean.
681
00:56:12,755 --> 00:56:14,795
Why was he interested in his mind?
682
00:56:14,915 --> 00:56:19,475
Castaneda recognised
that Jacobo had a very powerful mind.
683
00:56:19,635 --> 00:56:23,155
It seems there were conflicts
between Castaneda and Grinberg.
684
00:56:23,275 --> 00:56:25,755
Grinberg confided to colleagues that
685
00:56:25,875 --> 00:56:29,355
he only wanted power,
and he was insane.
686
00:56:29,475 --> 00:56:33,275
Jacobo lacked understanding of the.
687
00:56:35,795 --> 00:56:37,075
Castaneda phenomenon
688
00:56:37,235 --> 00:56:39,795
as there were elements
difficult to understand,
689
00:56:39,955 --> 00:56:41,395
contradictions.
690
00:56:41,595 --> 00:56:45,395
Castaneda's goal is to reach
complete consciousness.
691
00:56:45,755 --> 00:56:48,995
Where one perceives
all of reality and other
692
00:56:49,115 --> 00:56:52,995
worlds of reality,
something Jacobo learnt later.
693
00:56:53,435 --> 00:56:55,275
There are many worlds in reality.
694
00:56:55,875 --> 00:56:59,075
The freedom comes
from your own knowledge.
695
00:56:59,795 --> 00:57:02,075
The more you know,
the freer you are,
696
00:57:02,395 --> 00:57:07,035
and the more you know, the more
you can exercise that freedom,
697
00:57:07,195 --> 00:57:12,195
you're less subjected to pressure,
or to...
698
00:57:12,355 --> 00:57:14,675
aspects that prevent
you being free.
699
00:57:15,155 --> 00:57:18,675
Freedom comes from
self-knowledge.
700
00:57:18,955 --> 00:57:22,435
The more knowledge,
the more freedom.
701
00:57:23,355 --> 00:57:26,835
If you read Castaneda and Grinberg,
you realise that
702
00:57:26,995 --> 00:57:30,115
you are faced with a sorcerer,
Castaneda, whereas.
703
00:57:30,235 --> 00:57:34,115
Grinberg is openly seeking things
that he is looking for.
704
00:57:34,275 --> 00:57:37,595
The question is:
Why would Castaneda want.
705
00:57:37,715 --> 00:57:38,995
Grinberg to disappear?
706
00:57:39,195 --> 00:57:43,235
This gave a mysterious nature
to the investigation.
707
00:57:43,355 --> 00:57:47,195
Combined with all the investigations
he did into shamans,
708
00:57:47,275 --> 00:57:52,395
Pachita and the magic operations,
everything turned...
709
00:57:52,475 --> 00:57:57,995
This whole investigation
became a veil of secrecy
710
00:57:58,755 --> 00:58:01,035
over Jacobo's death.
711
00:58:46,995 --> 00:58:51,755
Jacobo said he had beings that helped
him, and as he talked to them
712
00:58:51,875 --> 00:58:56,395
they came close to him...
and they helped him a lot.
713
00:58:57,755 --> 00:59:02,155
But in the end, he wasn't very keen
to keep in contact with them.
714
00:59:03,835 --> 00:59:06,955
And ''they'' disintegrated him here.
715
00:59:07,195 --> 00:59:09,075
He's in another place.
716
00:59:10,475 --> 00:59:12,595
He can't leave.
717
00:59:13,035 --> 00:59:15,515
They have him trapped.
718
00:59:16,075 --> 00:59:19,035
''He's chained'', they said.
719
00:59:19,675 --> 00:59:21,355
''Don't look for him.''
720
00:59:21,635 --> 00:59:23,715
That's the information I have.
721
00:59:32,635 --> 00:59:36,835
When someone dies, on the
anniversary of their death,
722
00:59:36,955 --> 00:59:39,195
there's a prayer called ''Kaddish''.
723
00:59:39,475 --> 00:59:41,275
We asked rabbis:
724
00:59:41,395 --> 00:59:44,435
''What about a missing
person?'' And they answer:
725
00:59:44,595 --> 00:59:48,235
''He's not dead.''
They always answer the same.
726
00:59:51,195 --> 00:59:54,435
He's at an age that
he could still come back.
727
00:59:55,155 --> 01:00:00,475
Maybe in 20 years, who knows?
Now Jacobo would be my age.
728
01:00:11,115 --> 01:00:15,595
Once I saw Don Lucio,
he was very old by then.
729
01:00:15,755 --> 01:00:20,795
He told me: ''No, your dad is...''
He didn't say he was dead.
730
01:00:21,155 --> 01:00:25,715
''He's fine, they're... he's fine,
they're treating him well.''
731
01:00:26,035 --> 01:00:30,115
Odd because he told me: ''He's
no longer in this world...
732
01:00:30,235 --> 01:00:32,235
He is... but he's fine.''
733
01:00:33,475 --> 01:00:36,395
Estusha is named after her grandmother
734
01:00:36,555 --> 01:00:37,355
and...
735
01:00:37,475 --> 01:00:38,915
Estusha...
736
01:00:39,595 --> 01:00:41,675
had a brain tumor.
737
01:00:42,315 --> 01:00:46,875
I really needed Jacobo's energy
at the time. And I said to him.
738
01:00:47,875 --> 01:00:53,675
''As you're not here for such
a difficult time for your daughter,
739
01:00:53,875 --> 01:00:57,355
do something through my hands,
won't you?''
740
01:00:58,035 --> 01:01:00,795
Then I felt a really strong presence,
741
01:01:01,115 --> 01:01:06,075
and I don't know if half of it was
desire, but I felt as if he was there
742
01:01:06,155 --> 01:01:08,195
through my hands.
743
01:01:14,275 --> 01:01:17,275
It provoked in all of us
this thing...
744
01:01:17,395 --> 01:01:21,115
I'd be on holiday, and I'd see
bearded men, and think:
745
01:01:21,275 --> 01:01:25,315
''5 years have gone by,
maybe Jacobo's lovely black beard
746
01:01:25,435 --> 01:01:28,155
has some grey hairs now.''
747
01:01:29,075 --> 01:01:33,835
It's a total mystery, isn't it?
It's really shocking,
748
01:01:33,955 --> 01:01:35,275
and it never ends.
749
01:01:36,355 --> 01:01:41,155
As much as we want to...
take it that he died, when you bring
750
01:01:42,195 --> 01:01:47,115
all this up again, you re-experience
the feeling that he could turn up
751
01:01:47,235 --> 01:01:50,755
on any mountain,
or in any cave.
752
01:01:55,555 --> 01:02:00,675
It's like being put back in the maze,
and you don't see the way out.
753
01:02:00,835 --> 01:02:04,035
You don't see light at the
end of the tunnel.
754
01:02:42,915 --> 01:02:44,475
I think I have a lead.
755
01:02:45,355 --> 01:02:48,675
The Chief Superintendent must be
in Malinalco.
756
01:02:49,235 --> 01:02:52,235
He didn't want to give me his address,
757
01:02:53,155 --> 01:02:56,555
but I think he's still in Malinalco.
758
01:03:01,995 --> 01:03:06,075
- I'm looking for Clemente Padilla.
- Wrong number.
759
01:03:06,195 --> 01:03:07,715
- Wrong number?
- Yes.
760
01:03:08,275 --> 01:03:09,995
I'm sorry.
Thanks.
761
01:03:19,435 --> 01:03:24,315
Do you know Chief Superintendent
Clemente Padilla?
762
01:03:26,315 --> 01:03:31,195
Yes, but it's been a while
since he was here.
763
01:03:32,755 --> 01:03:37,635
Yes, he used to live down there,
but he's not been here for a while.
764
01:03:37,835 --> 01:03:39,074
He lived there?
765
01:03:39,075 --> 01:03:40,155
Yes, further down.
766
01:03:41,115 --> 01:03:43,475
Ah, Clemente Padilla,
767
01:03:43,635 --> 01:03:47,875
he used to live around
San Martรญn, but he sold his house.
768
01:04:11,155 --> 01:04:12,555
Good evening.
769
01:04:31,235 --> 01:04:37,715
I decided to retire after
the Jacobo Grinberg case.
770
01:04:37,835 --> 01:04:42,715
I left the city, so nobody could
find me. I wanted to get away
771
01:04:42,875 --> 01:04:44,475
from everything.
772
01:04:48,715 --> 01:04:53,195
I keep the Doctor Grinberg tapes here.
773
01:05:00,195 --> 01:05:01,915
Doctor Grinberg file.
774
01:05:07,115 --> 01:05:11,435
When we showed the photo
on television, it led to
775
01:05:11,715 --> 01:05:16,835
thousands of calls, until there was a
curious one, which was the
776
01:05:17,195 --> 01:05:18,595
Boulder witness.
777
01:05:18,835 --> 01:05:24,395
He told me he was working at a gas
station in Boulder, Colorado.
778
01:05:26,555 --> 01:05:29,395
It was between 8:30 and
9:00 am
779
01:05:29,555 --> 01:05:33,075
when a white, six-seater,
Cessna airplane landed
780
01:05:33,275 --> 01:05:36,675
and stopped 15 metres from where
781
01:05:36,835 --> 01:05:39,275
this person was.
782
01:05:39,395 --> 01:05:44,035
Two white cars were
in the same place,
783
01:05:44,235 --> 01:05:47,555
and two people got out of the plane:
784
01:05:47,675 --> 01:05:51,475
a man and a woman.
A bearded man over 40 years old.
785
01:05:51,635 --> 01:05:57,195
The woman was short with light
brown hair and they got in the cars.
786
01:05:57,395 --> 01:06:02,435
The man in the first car
and the woman in the second one.
787
01:06:02,955 --> 01:06:07,875
I could recognise an FBI agent
called Rick Howard
788
01:06:07,995 --> 01:06:12,995
and the North American secret service
agent, Marina Velazco.
789
01:06:13,115 --> 01:06:16,995
She's a blonde and
attractive 35-year old.
790
01:06:17,435 --> 01:06:21,275
- This could be the blonde.
- Exactly.
791
01:06:21,435 --> 01:06:25,915
That's the blonde, but she worked for
the North American secret service.
792
01:06:34,355 --> 01:06:38,635
He recognises them because
they bought gas at the station
793
01:06:38,795 --> 01:06:42,995
where he worked, which is why
he recognises their names.
794
01:06:43,355 --> 01:06:48,795
When he told us all this, I started to
investigate what happened in Boulder.
795
01:06:49,275 --> 01:06:52,755
Dr. Grinberg's papers
appeared in Boulder.
796
01:06:53,195 --> 01:06:57,235
Nobody knew that Dr. Grinberg
collaborated at Boulder University,
797
01:06:57,515 --> 01:06:58,995
he gave conferences.
798
01:06:59,155 --> 01:07:01,795
I didn't know that my dad
went to Boulder.
799
01:07:02,635 --> 01:07:06,475
There were meetings,
let's say they were secret ones,
800
01:07:06,595 --> 01:07:08,275
as almost nobody
knew of them.
801
01:07:09,955 --> 01:07:12,395
He used to travel
to South Carolina,
802
01:07:12,795 --> 01:07:16,435
and from there to Boulder.
Never direct.
803
01:07:16,635 --> 01:07:20,675
He flew from neighbouring airports,
which we thought was odd.
804
01:07:21,795 --> 01:07:24,795
We requested FBI intervention,
but they gave us
805
01:07:24,915 --> 01:07:28,075
documentation with no more than
Grinberg's arrival
806
01:07:28,195 --> 01:07:31,555
in New York on 1st November, 1994.
807
01:07:31,795 --> 01:07:36,195
I made requests via other
means and received three pages
808
01:07:36,555 --> 01:07:39,995
of arrivals and departures for
Jacobo Grinberg
809
01:07:40,115 --> 01:07:44,675
and Marรญa Teresa Mendoza
at JFK airport in Los Angeles,
810
01:07:45,555 --> 01:07:50,195
Atlanta, and everywhere they visited.
811
01:07:52,275 --> 01:07:53,795
What does that mean?
812
01:07:53,995 --> 01:07:59,915
One of two things: or the FBI
was negligent, or they didn't want
813
01:08:00,075 --> 01:08:01,795
to cooperate.
814
01:08:07,075 --> 01:08:11,035
This article by Pulitzer prize winner
Daniel Golden
815
01:08:12,835 --> 01:08:16,474
reported: ''How the CIA
intelligence services
816
01:08:16,475 --> 01:08:18,395
controls top professors.''
817
01:08:23,235 --> 01:08:27,435
Hidden behind public organisations,
the CIA funds
818
01:08:27,515 --> 01:08:31,835
the scientists and then
calls in a favour.
819
01:08:31,995 --> 01:08:36,075
Invitations arrived with incredible
salaries to work in
820
01:08:36,195 --> 01:08:39,315
US universities, but
he always said no.
821
01:08:40,995 --> 01:08:45,875
The CIA organises conferences
for scientists
822
01:08:45,995 --> 01:08:47,395
without them knowing
823
01:08:47,795 --> 01:08:51,795
that the intelligence agency itself
is behind
824
01:08:52,115 --> 01:08:53,915
these conferences.
825
01:08:54,395 --> 01:08:58,155
The CIA pressurises the scientists
826
01:08:58,315 --> 01:09:03,075
and may even threaten them
in some way so
827
01:09:03,195 --> 01:09:07,235
they accept working on
secret government projects.
828
01:09:12,835 --> 01:09:16,995
During November '94,
in Costa Rica,
829
01:09:17,115 --> 01:09:19,875
a very important conference was held.
830
01:09:23,355 --> 01:09:26,875
Grinberg talked about
telepathic communication.
831
01:09:27,035 --> 01:09:31,315
When he returned to Mexico,
his facial expression was different,
832
01:09:31,435 --> 01:09:33,155
nervous and depressed.
833
01:09:33,795 --> 01:09:37,875
After Costa Rica, he lived
under tremendous stress.
834
01:09:37,995 --> 01:09:43,075
And this caused a radical change in
Jacobo, in his behaviour,
835
01:09:43,195 --> 01:09:45,795
his relation
with myself and the rest
836
01:09:46,275 --> 01:09:49,355
of the speakers.
Who knows what happened.
837
01:09:50,475 --> 01:09:54,315
We got back from Costa Rica
and Jacobo Grinberg strangely
838
01:09:54,595 --> 01:09:58,955
went into a state of shock
and was taken to hospital.
839
01:09:59,075 --> 01:10:03,235
The diagnosis was:
state of panic and stress.
840
01:10:07,315 --> 01:10:10,755
The doctor saw him
experiencing nervousness,
841
01:10:10,915 --> 01:10:14,235
he knew what would happen,
but couldn't tell anyone.
842
01:10:14,555 --> 01:10:17,395
Yes, I noticed him being a bit...
843
01:10:17,675 --> 01:10:22,555
a bit strange, like restless,
844
01:10:22,675 --> 01:10:24,555
scared or something.
845
01:10:24,675 --> 01:10:27,155
''If anything happens,
I'm counting on you...''
846
01:10:27,355 --> 01:10:29,595
It was odd that he said that.
847
01:10:29,755 --> 01:10:32,075
Even more at
the age of 40, right?
848
01:10:32,235 --> 01:10:34,395
He said he feared for his life.
849
01:10:34,635 --> 01:10:38,555
''I need to see you,
we have to talk.''
850
01:10:38,675 --> 01:10:41,275
Then I never saw him again.
851
01:10:42,115 --> 01:10:45,795
Doctor Grinberg began leaving clues
like saying:
852
01:10:45,875 --> 01:10:48,875
''Look for me because
I'm going to disappear.''
853
01:11:12,835 --> 01:11:14,995
She goes out with Jacobo,
854
01:11:15,235 --> 01:11:17,555
she has an affair with Jacobo,
855
01:11:17,955 --> 01:11:20,075
she gets married to Jacobo
856
01:11:20,275 --> 01:11:22,155
and disappears with Jacobo.
857
01:11:23,355 --> 01:11:24,995
It must be linked,
858
01:11:25,115 --> 01:11:29,155
either she was controlled
or groomed as a child.
859
01:11:29,635 --> 01:11:31,595
Why doesn't she come forward?
860
01:11:31,915 --> 01:11:33,995
But instead she runs.
861
01:11:34,195 --> 01:11:35,195
Why?
862
01:11:35,835 --> 01:11:39,355
Teresa turned out not to be
who she claimed to be.
863
01:11:39,875 --> 01:11:42,875
Her story didn't
match the truth.
864
01:11:42,995 --> 01:11:45,715
There was something
strange about this.
865
01:11:47,195 --> 01:11:51,075
She had a degree
that wasn't hers.
866
01:11:51,435 --> 01:11:54,755
It appears that it's not even
her real name.
867
01:11:59,755 --> 01:12:03,275
In 1982, she totally disappeared from
868
01:12:03,435 --> 01:12:04,795
Mexico City.
869
01:12:05,355 --> 01:12:08,595
She had a half sister
in Los Angeles. There she
870
01:12:09,315 --> 01:12:12,915
enrolled at JFK University,
paid the fees, but
871
01:12:13,075 --> 01:12:14,635
didn't attend classes.
872
01:12:14,795 --> 01:12:19,635
She returned to Mexico with a degree
from that university.
873
01:12:19,915 --> 01:12:22,155
That's what I find curious.
874
01:12:23,795 --> 01:12:28,475
They met at a conference, began
a relationship, and
875
01:12:28,635 --> 01:12:29,875
suddenly got married.
876
01:12:30,395 --> 01:12:31,955
In a blink they got married.
877
01:12:33,515 --> 01:12:35,515
No invitation,
no announcement,
878
01:12:35,635 --> 01:12:37,035
they married in a village.
879
01:12:39,075 --> 01:12:42,795
Imagine you have someone
who knows about things
880
01:12:42,995 --> 01:12:46,755
that interest you, like
mental intercommunication,
881
01:12:46,875 --> 01:12:49,555
or via satellite. Well, I want it.
882
01:12:49,995 --> 01:12:51,955
How?
At any price.
883
01:12:52,475 --> 01:12:55,355
So, I send someone
to control you and
884
01:12:55,515 --> 01:12:58,755
make you weak. Then I
come in strong and
885
01:12:59,315 --> 01:13:01,075
accomplish my objective.
886
01:13:32,475 --> 01:13:34,275
We are all interrelated,
887
01:13:34,475 --> 01:13:39,715
we know of the inclusive interaction
in cerebral activity between
888
01:13:39,835 --> 01:13:41,075
one person and another.
889
01:13:42,075 --> 01:13:46,435
Your cerebral activity interacts
with mine, and mine with yours.
890
01:13:46,595 --> 01:13:49,475
Many of our thoughts
aren't even our own,
891
01:13:50,035 --> 01:13:55,155
and come from a collective instead,
because there is that constant
892
01:13:55,355 --> 01:13:58,715
connection of brains because
they are interacting.
893
01:13:58,835 --> 01:14:03,275
A detective visited me and asked
all kinds of questions
894
01:14:03,435 --> 01:14:06,195
and among others, he asked
895
01:14:06,395 --> 01:14:11,675
if any of his discoveries could
have a military application.
896
01:14:12,075 --> 01:14:15,595
Well, at that time, with
the advances he was making,
897
01:14:15,755 --> 01:14:18,475
there would have been
speculation.
898
01:14:18,675 --> 01:14:19,955
Not to be ruled out.
899
01:14:20,075 --> 01:14:25,635
If you can prove the scientific basis
or the first steps of telepathy,
900
01:14:25,755 --> 01:14:28,595
any government
would want it.
901
01:14:41,195 --> 01:14:44,955
People believe
a conspiracy that he
902
01:14:45,075 --> 01:14:48,595
was kidnapped by US agents
to work on
903
01:14:48,715 --> 01:14:50,355
a secret project.
904
01:14:50,675 --> 01:14:55,155
I think this is totally unfeasible
because for a start,
905
01:14:55,355 --> 01:14:58,635
because... I insist that
his investigations
906
01:14:58,755 --> 01:15:01,155
weren't recognised internationally.
907
01:15:02,395 --> 01:15:03,835
At least not back then.
908
01:15:19,995 --> 01:15:23,435
The US Central Intelligence Agency,
the CIA,
909
01:15:23,555 --> 01:15:27,355
released 930,000 classified documents
from
910
01:15:27,475 --> 01:15:31,995
between the 40s and the 90s.
That's 12 million pages
911
01:15:32,075 --> 01:15:33,675
on UFOs, for example.
912
01:15:33,795 --> 01:15:37,155
Also several psychic
experiments on human telepathy,
913
01:15:37,275 --> 01:15:40,915
and mind control
for prisoner interrogations.
914
01:15:41,155 --> 01:15:43,875
It's all on the internet now,
and free
915
01:15:43,955 --> 01:15:47,235
so journalists and historians
can read them.
916
01:16:13,395 --> 01:16:16,435
The CIA declassified documents
917
01:16:16,555 --> 01:16:21,115
show knowledge of Dr. Grinberg.
He must have worked with them.
918
01:16:29,115 --> 01:16:33,635
Imagine how revealing it is to talk
about what the CIA is doing
919
01:16:33,795 --> 01:16:37,475
to control human minds,
extrasensory perception
920
01:16:37,635 --> 01:16:39,395
and psychokinesis.
921
01:16:39,795 --> 01:16:43,155
That is what Dr. Grinberg
was working on.
922
01:16:44,155 --> 01:16:48,035
This is gold.
Transferred potential is gold.
923
01:16:48,275 --> 01:16:49,555
Whoever discovers it,
924
01:16:49,635 --> 01:16:52,555
develops it
and fully exploits it,
925
01:16:52,675 --> 01:16:55,395
has in their hands
an object of investigation.
926
01:16:55,635 --> 01:16:58,315
A very valuable investigation.
927
01:16:59,075 --> 01:17:00,555
The truth is he is in Boulder.
928
01:17:02,675 --> 01:17:07,595
This was where we felt
the investigation was let down.
929
01:17:10,435 --> 01:17:11,995
It skewed.
930
01:17:12,195 --> 01:17:15,795
When Padilla said: ''There's a lead
in Boulder.
931
01:17:15,955 --> 01:17:19,035
We have to go to Boulder.''
That costs money right?
932
01:17:20,235 --> 01:17:22,475
The Grinberg family
turned on me.
933
01:17:22,595 --> 01:17:24,195
''Why do you believe him?''
934
01:17:24,435 --> 01:17:28,315
Even the doubts,
he was me giving leads.
935
01:17:28,435 --> 01:17:31,195
- Clear evidence.
- Clear and precise,
936
01:17:31,315 --> 01:17:32,315
not lies.
937
01:17:32,675 --> 01:17:37,155
It was when Boulder was brought up
that things ended.
938
01:17:37,875 --> 01:17:42,475
Then after that, there was
a series of manipulations,
939
01:17:42,635 --> 01:17:47,155
the police took me off the case,
940
01:17:47,275 --> 01:17:51,515
another Chief Superintendent
went to Boulder and refuted all
941
01:17:51,675 --> 01:17:55,795
I had done. I downloaded photos
of the landing strip
942
01:17:55,915 --> 01:17:58,515
and the Chief Superintendent
said:
943
01:17:58,675 --> 01:18:01,395
''You're crazy, there's
nothing except
944
01:18:01,555 --> 01:18:05,075
a residential area with a golf club.
No airport.''
945
01:18:06,715 --> 01:18:09,795
There were other pressures
from the president.
946
01:18:09,955 --> 01:18:14,035
President Zedillo
requested information from me.
947
01:18:15,555 --> 01:18:18,235
I was forced to hand it over
948
01:18:18,475 --> 01:18:22,395
because the Attorney General
accused me of car theft.
949
01:18:23,715 --> 01:18:25,555
Car theft...
950
01:18:25,675 --> 01:18:27,115
the least likely.
951
01:18:27,995 --> 01:18:30,555
Why me?
Why discredit me?
952
01:18:30,675 --> 01:18:35,475
''You're crazy Chief Superintendent!
There's nothing in Boulder, look.''
953
01:18:39,675 --> 01:18:44,075
Now that was unusual!
This was a special case for me.
954
01:18:44,195 --> 01:18:47,395
Why is it causing
so much controversy?
955
01:18:47,515 --> 01:18:52,075
Some years ago, I contacted a
Chief of Police
956
01:18:52,195 --> 01:18:56,075
whose name escapes me,
and I took him all Jacobo's files.
957
01:18:56,195 --> 01:19:00,515
I told him: ''Please, let's revive this
and go through it again.''
958
01:19:00,675 --> 01:19:02,155
And...
959
01:19:03,315 --> 01:19:06,595
three days later
all the files were lost.
960
01:19:07,635 --> 01:19:10,235
- The Chief of Police...
- Lost how?
961
01:19:10,355 --> 01:19:13,155
He lost the file,
I couldn't get it back.
962
01:19:15,435 --> 01:19:19,875
It's part of the Grinberg case
and something I'll never forget.
963
01:19:19,995 --> 01:19:21,235
Really...
964
01:19:21,835 --> 01:19:23,835
I'll be wondering forever
965
01:19:24,995 --> 01:19:26,995
and when I go to heaven,
966
01:19:27,115 --> 01:19:30,635
the first question I'm going
to ask will be: ''Okay.
967
01:19:30,795 --> 01:19:33,275
I want to see the video.''
968
01:19:34,075 --> 01:19:36,315
The last six months
969
01:19:36,435 --> 01:19:39,035
of the last days of.
970
01:19:39,475 --> 01:19:43,475
Dr. Grinberg and his wife.
971
01:19:45,995 --> 01:19:48,315
That's how the Grinberg case went.
972
01:19:48,475 --> 01:19:49,994
A big deal to begin with,
973
01:19:49,995 --> 01:19:53,475
investigations into what happened,
and what comes of it? Nothing.
974
01:19:53,595 --> 01:19:57,595
A kidnapping? Left for the US?
Cover it up, it's over...
975
01:19:57,715 --> 01:19:59,875
Where is the Grinberg case now?
976
01:20:28,075 --> 01:20:32,915
Professionally I have solved
every case that was assigned to me,
977
01:20:34,475 --> 01:20:36,435
and when we were close
978
01:20:37,675 --> 01:20:40,355
to knowing the location
of Dr. Grinberg
979
01:20:41,035 --> 01:20:45,475
then all support was cut from
local institutions,
980
01:20:45,955 --> 01:20:47,634
from the Grinberg family,
981
01:20:47,635 --> 01:20:49,795
and the case was discontinued.
982
01:20:50,715 --> 01:20:54,435
This is on the CIA website,
they have a programme called.
983
01:20:54,555 --> 01:20:55,555
''Stargate''.
984
01:20:57,155 --> 01:21:02,195
It's a classified article by Grinberg
in the CIA archives.
985
01:21:02,395 --> 01:21:05,755
It makes you ask:
''Why does the CIA want this?''
986
01:21:09,755 --> 01:21:14,675
Well, it was
one of the things that.
987
01:21:14,795 --> 01:21:16,795
Padilla said, wasn't it?
988
01:21:22,595 --> 01:21:27,675
It scares me to think that
what we heard about
989
01:21:27,795 --> 01:21:29,795
Boulder could have been true.
990
01:21:29,915 --> 01:21:33,875
I don't think Jacobo
could have left his daughter...
991
01:21:34,515 --> 01:21:35,755
in any way.
992
01:21:35,955 --> 01:21:38,275
His love for his daughter
could have been
993
01:21:38,395 --> 01:21:39,795
the perfect blackmail.
994
01:21:39,915 --> 01:21:44,955
''We have you here, investigating
here, and we guarantee that nothing
995
01:21:45,075 --> 01:21:46,155
happens to her.''
996
01:21:48,995 --> 01:21:51,995
It's totally strange
997
01:21:52,995 --> 01:21:55,434
that the president of the republic,
998
01:21:55,435 --> 01:21:57,475
Ernesto Zedillo,
999
01:21:57,635 --> 01:22:02,314
instead of using people
in the Ministry of Internal Affairs
1000
01:22:02,315 --> 01:22:04,514
or his private secretary,
1001
01:22:04,515 --> 01:22:07,075
skips these channels
1002
01:22:07,195 --> 01:22:09,474
and sends two people
1003
01:22:09,475 --> 01:22:12,634
employed by the
presidency of the republic
1004
01:22:12,635 --> 01:22:14,874
to directly request
1005
01:22:14,875 --> 01:22:18,955
how the Jacobo Grinberg
case was progressing.
1006
01:22:20,315 --> 01:22:23,314
It was odd the
president took the trouble
1007
01:22:23,315 --> 01:22:26,714
to ask how the case was going.
1008
01:22:26,715 --> 01:22:30,754
It means that
someone above his command
1009
01:22:30,755 --> 01:22:34,594
or political level
asked him for the information.
1010
01:22:34,595 --> 01:22:37,194
That's what I believe.
1011
01:22:37,195 --> 01:22:39,994
So, you start to suspect
1012
01:22:39,995 --> 01:22:42,635
things that
put you in danger,
1013
01:22:47,195 --> 01:22:49,314
increase risk
to your reputation
1014
01:22:49,315 --> 01:22:51,995
and everything important to you.
1015
01:22:53,115 --> 01:22:57,154
What are we going to face after
opening this can of worms?
1016
01:22:57,155 --> 01:22:59,794
Do you think there is still danger?
1017
01:22:59,795 --> 01:23:03,794
Sure, you're still leaving
me open to danger.
1018
01:23:03,795 --> 01:23:06,434
It's me who's talking,
and proving.
1019
01:23:06,435 --> 01:23:08,195
Showing documents.
1020
01:23:08,595 --> 01:23:11,074
It makes me the target.
1021
01:23:11,075 --> 01:23:16,635
Whoever invited Jacobo to work
or cooperate is not interested
1022
01:23:17,875 --> 01:23:21,954
in reopening a scandal.
1023
01:23:21,955 --> 01:23:25,154
In keeping him from being found
1024
01:23:25,155 --> 01:23:31,714
there's a continual threat
if you go around sniffing.
1025
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:34,674
They cut the root,
go for the kill!
1026
01:23:34,675 --> 01:23:37,075
Hey, 20 years have gone by.
1027
01:23:38,155 --> 01:23:43,995
Come on! Can there be
more scandal now than before?
1028
01:23:44,915 --> 01:23:47,194
What's your plan now?
1029
01:23:47,195 --> 01:23:49,034
I don't have one.
1030
01:23:49,035 --> 01:23:52,194
Everyone must be alert.
1031
01:23:52,195 --> 01:23:54,274
Everyone carries firearms here.
1032
01:23:54,275 --> 01:23:59,435
The whole family is protected.
The whole family is alert.
1033
01:24:00,315 --> 01:24:02,275
Nothing else can be done.
1034
01:24:30,195 --> 01:24:34,115
I'm writing in exile, from a
dark and distant planet
1035
01:24:34,235 --> 01:24:36,235
called Earth.
1036
01:24:36,315 --> 01:24:38,755
My story begins in Andromeda,
1037
01:24:38,955 --> 01:24:41,955
a galaxy where
we practiced meditation,
1038
01:24:42,115 --> 01:24:45,835
telepathic communication and
the knowledge and
1039
01:24:45,955 --> 01:24:47,835
management of energy.
1040
01:24:51,355 --> 01:24:54,474
Andromeda was part
of the universe hierarchy,
1041
01:24:54,475 --> 01:24:57,675
a group of developed civilisations
1042
01:24:58,475 --> 01:25:02,314
made up of an infinity of galaxies,
whose purpose
1043
01:25:02,315 --> 01:25:04,555
was the evolution of the spirit.
1044
01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:08,835
Travelling to anywhere in
the hierarchy was allowed,
1045
01:25:09,155 --> 01:25:11,795
but there was a prohibited area
1046
01:25:12,155 --> 01:25:15,675
made up of young
and unstable planets.
1047
01:25:16,355 --> 01:25:20,755
My companion and I set off
to discover other places
1048
01:25:21,115 --> 01:25:23,595
and develop our knowledge this way.
1049
01:25:24,675 --> 01:25:27,235
We were overcome
with a supernatural love
1050
01:25:27,595 --> 01:25:31,475
and decided that we had
become gods.
1051
01:25:35,035 --> 01:25:39,115
We crossed the border of the
prohibited area of the universe
1052
01:25:39,235 --> 01:25:42,875
to help the young planets
with our presence.
1053
01:25:43,955 --> 01:25:47,395
The atmosphere was frightening.
1054
01:25:48,275 --> 01:25:53,315
Suddenly, the spaceship lost stability
and we knew the end had come.
1055
01:25:54,915 --> 01:25:59,915
We were moved to the inside of a
dome and they separated us there.
1056
01:26:01,435 --> 01:26:05,434
The hierarchy chose planet Earth
for my exile,
1057
01:26:05,435 --> 01:26:08,914
and the board considered
that 11 reincarnations
1058
01:26:08,915 --> 01:26:11,915
would be enough to learn.
1059
01:26:12,995 --> 01:26:17,115
My father accompanied me
while they made the preparations
1060
01:26:17,155 --> 01:26:19,115
for my departure.
1061
01:26:19,475 --> 01:26:23,475
Before connecting me to the
dematerialisation mechanism,
1062
01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:26,635
he promised me that he would help.
1063
01:26:27,155 --> 01:26:30,515
His last words were:
''I love you.
1064
01:26:31,275 --> 01:26:35,594
And I'll be there for you
when you're ready to return
1065
01:26:35,595 --> 01:26:39,115
at the end of your eleventh life.''
1066
01:26:58,755 --> 01:27:03,194
In 2016, money was withdrawn from a
bank account in Jacobo Grinberg's name.
1067
01:27:03,195 --> 01:27:07,995
His daughter Estusha hasn't been able
to uncover this person's identity.
1068
01:27:10,555 --> 01:27:13,755
Carlos Castaneda died in 1998,
four years after Grinberg disappeared.
1069
01:27:13,915 --> 01:27:17,115
His intimate group of women
mysteriously disappeared with him.
1070
01:27:19,675 --> 01:27:22,435
Teresa Mendoza was last seen in May, 1995.
1071
01:27:22,675 --> 01:27:26,234
Since then, nobody has seen her,
or has been willing to admit so.
1072
01:27:26,235 --> 01:27:29,755
Her relatives and friends
refused to appear in the film.
1073
01:27:32,475 --> 01:27:37,635
Since being taken off the case, Superintendent
Padilla has not been able to carry out police work.
1074
01:27:40,915 --> 01:27:47,315
After 25 years, Doctor Grinberg's
disappearance still remains a mystery
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