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I took train number ten, which was
going on the Moscow to Samara route.
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I was going to meet my mother,
whose birthday I'd missed,
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and three minutes before
the train's departure
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a man burst through the open door,
shouted my name.
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I answered 'Yes'.
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After that, he started pouring
terrible stinking red liquid on me.
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He ran out of the compartment.
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I somehow wiped the paint
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from my eyes, grabbed my phone,
and ran after him.
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You bastard!
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He was already standing
next to a policeman.
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He came into my compartment.
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He shouted 'Muratov'.
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He covered me in paint,
shouting 'For our boys'.
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I don't know what this means.
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Take your mask off!
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I understand the message
they were sending.
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"Shut up"
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"And keep your newspaper quiet".
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THE PRICE OF TRUTH
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The Nobel Peace Prize for 2021
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has been awarded to two outstanding
representatives of the press,
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Maria Ressa working
in the Philippines
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and Dmitry Muratov working
in the Russian Federation.
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Does everybody have their
headphones?
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On the morning of October 8th,
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I received a phone call
from my mother.
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She wondered how things were going.
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Well, Mum, we've got the Nobel Prize...
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'That's nice. Anything else?'
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Look here, Mum I'll tell you everything.
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The world has fallen out of love
with democracy.
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The world has begun to turn
towards dictatorship.
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In my country, and not only there,
it is popular to think
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that politicians who avoid
bloodshed are weak,
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while threatening the world with war
is the duty of true patriots.
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We are journalists,
and our mission is clear:
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to distinguish between fact
and fiction.
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But journalism in Russia
is going through dark times.
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Over the last few months
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over one hundred journalists, media
outlets, and human rights defenders
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have been branded
as "Foreign Agents".
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In Russia, this means
"enemies of the people."
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Democracy needs rehabilitation.
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Let us put it bluntly.
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If we give up on democracy,
we agree to war.
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The dawn chorus that no one
wants to hear.
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Air raid sirens in Kyiv
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signalling that the full-scale invasion
of a European country
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in the year 2022 was well under way.
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I have decided to conduct
a special military operation.
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To this end, we will strive
to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine,
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as well as to bring to justice those
who have committed bloody crimes
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against civilians, including those
of the Russian Federation.
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It's a catastrophe.
It makes me feel emotional.
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This is a historic tragedy created
by Vladimir Putin.
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Whoever tries to prevent us,
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or threatens our country
and its people,
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should know that Russia's response
will be immediate
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and it will lead to consequences
the like of which
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you have never experienced
in your history.
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Where can I run to?
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I think that Russia may destroy
Ukraine, but it will not conquer it.
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- Ok... Dima!
- Hi! I'm here!
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- Where are you?
- We don't see you?
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It's not every year a friend wins
the Nobel peace prize.
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I've known Dima for twenty years.
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We met when I was making
a documentary
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in the chaos of the early 2000s.
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In turbulent Russia,
he's always stayed the same.
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Open hearted, principled and brave.
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Patrick, the whole world
is against the war.
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Twenty five million people in Russia
are against the war
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that's an official estimate.
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It's very important that people who
oppose the war have their own voice.
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For us, that's the most
important thing.
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Readers are our country.
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Dima founded his paper in 1993,
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it's been responsible for scoop after
scoop: the horror of the Chechen war,
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the billions stolen by the ruling
elite, the brutality of Modern Russia.
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Somehow Dima has managed to keep it
alive,
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to walk the tightrope
of unrelenting Kremlin pressure.
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He agrees that we can film him
and his paper.
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Just one condition,
don't put their lives at risk .
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We don't know anything.
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You don't know anything.
Nobody knows anything.
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Because it all happens
in one person's head.
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And we don't even know
if he's flexing his finger
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ready to press the nuclear button
or not.
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And everyone around is walking around
whispering, 'It's 50/50'
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'50% he will, 50% he won't.'
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Novaya owes its existence to another
Nobel Laureate, Mikhail Gorbachev.
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Even the first computers to arrive
in Novaya Gazeta's offices in 1993
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were bought by Gorbachev
with his Nobel Prize money.
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I met him when he was President of
the Soviet Union and I interviewed him.
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I came to the Kremlin and my
ID was checked five times before
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I went to his office.
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I got mad.
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And when I went
into Gorbachev's office,
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I demanded that he show me
his ID too.
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That is a great picture!
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At first, he started laughing,
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then he climbed into the safe
and took out his ID.
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In fact, I read it,
it said 'President'.
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Job Title: President.
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We haven't been separated
for 33 years since then.
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Fantastic!
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All my life I've been friends
with Mikhail Gorbachev,
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who had the same principle.
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We must open Russia up to the world,
and open the world up to Russia.
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And this principle has been blown up.
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Twenty of them flew past.
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This was Antonov International
airport,
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fifteen miles from the centre.
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And these were Russian helicopter
gunships.
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This airfield is now being used
to bring in the troops
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that will storm the capital.
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As Russia's tanks pour into Ukraine,
the government clamps down at home,
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bringing in new laws limiting
what anyone,
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particularly tricky journalists can
say about the special operation.
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If you write the word 'war',
you'll be shut down.
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If you tell us how the fighting
is going on in Ukraine,
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you have no right to do so,
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because you must only cite
the point of view
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of the official military authorities.
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This is absolutely
ferocious censorship.
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No, no, no, I'm not allowed to have
anyone buy tickets for me.
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- Well, you're going to talk.
- But no, you can't. It's the law.
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But we always buy tickets
and pay for the hotels.
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So don't be offended, please.
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I can't do this,
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otherwise I will be recognised
as a Foreign Agent in Russia.
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I'm not ready to be a Western agent.
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I want to remain a Russian
journalist.
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I get a message, Dima is in Latvia on
the jury of a documentary festival.
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We can talk freely there.
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Somehow, I don't think it's just about
the art of documentary film making.
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Putin thinks he needs to win
World War II again.
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- And, how does it end?
- Sad. There's no happy ending.
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- Yeah, and you keep fighting?
- I'm not fighting. I'm working.
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Just work. And my main task
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is to keep my employees safe.
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You take it!
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I have to send the whole
of my editorial team,
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which was collected like diamonds,
to emigrate, to leave.
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I am negotiating this
at the moment, right here.
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The day before yesterday I met
with the President.
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Today the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
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The current estimate is between
twenty and forty people.
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I can't let anyone in on the details.
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These are secret negotiations,
understand?
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Give me your word, because
I don't trust Yelena,
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I love her but I don't trust her.
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Yelena, your promises are well known.
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You forget and then you say,
'I misunderstood'.
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He's right to be careful.
Since he founded the paper,
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six Novaya journalists
have been killed
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after their reports offended
the Kremlin.
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My personal pain,
and my fault is
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we lost so many people,
murdered, from the paper.
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Igor Domnikov was the first.
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He was a brilliant guy.
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He was killed by bandits for his
series of investigations.
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Yuri Shchekochikhin,
my closest friend
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and an outstanding journalist.
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He was poisoned.
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Anna Politkovskaya, she made it to
Chechnya, disobeying all orders.
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And I was on vacation at the time.
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Of course, I blame myself
terribly for this.
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I should also mention Nastya Baburova
and Stas Markelov.
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Natasha Estemirova, who was Anya
Politkovskaya's main collaborator
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on Chechnya.
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Their portraits hang on the walls
right above the table where we meet
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and I see them a lot of times a day.
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I'm ashamed of myself,
but not the newspaper.
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We are already handing out weapons
and will give them to anyone
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who has the capacity to defend
our sovereignty.
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Thank you, Dmitry Muratov
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and the thousands and thousands
of other worthy Russians
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whose conscience stands firm.
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Just stop those who lie,
lie to all of us.
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Like everyone around him in Riga,
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I spent three days trying to convince
him not to go back to Moscow,
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that it isn't safe, particularly
after Zelenskyy's endorsement.
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Today, he's off.
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My flight lands in Moscow at 4.50am.
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My colleagues will meet me
at the airport,
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we will have a drink,
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I'll have a nap and be at work
at 12:00pm.
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Just as he climbs into his minibus
another one pulls up.
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Overnight a party of journalists
has escaped from Russia.
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So how long have you known him?
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Fifteen years, no,
yeah fifteen years.
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I came to Novaya Gazeta in 2006
when I was nineteen years old.
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He's like my second father.
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People think that his job
is to be the Chief Editor
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but his job is to save people
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and he has always been like that
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and in general this feeling
that we are going to the west
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and he's going to the east
is always kind of,
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is another symbolic
sign of separation.
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Where are you going?
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To a safer place than Moscow,
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I don't disclose the location for security
reasons, you know,
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I would prefer not to disclose locations
to Russia's secret services.
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I'm afraid something might happen
to him.
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I wouldn't go, but that is why,
you know, he's ...
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Why wouldn't you go?
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Because I know that they most likely
will arrest me, I know that,
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nobody survives Russian prison
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or at least you know there
is a very small chance
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that you can survive Russian prison.
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He knows all of that, and despite
that, he goes back.
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Muratov? Look, if he doesn't
break Russian law
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and if he doesn't give a reason
to be declared a Foreign Agent,
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then he won't be declared one.
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Everyone needs to clearly understand,
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it is necessary to comply
with Russian Law.
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I'm all too aware that my friend's
desire to challenge authority
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conflicts with centuries
of state power in Russia.
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Whether it's the Tsar,
the Politburo or the President.
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That Russia has always been ruled
by one central authority,
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that Putin is not the aberration
but the brutal norm.
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- Why did you become a journalist?
- That's an old story.
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One day my friend and I went
to get autographs
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from some great hockey players
who came to our closed city.
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This is the city of Kuibyshev
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and these great hockey players, who
came to Kuibyshev every three years
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when we asked for their autographs,
they told us to fuck off
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and we were terribly insulted
and hurt.
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I didn't know that our mothers
wrote to the newspaper
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and they sent an envelope
with two photographs.
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One 'To Dima' from CSKA
goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak.
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And one 'To Zhenya' from CSKA
goalkeeper Vladislav Tretiak.
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This absolutely amazed me
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and I realised that I wanted to work
for a newspaper.
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Anyway, it all started
when they told me to fuck off.
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Dima started as a paratrooper fighting
in Afghanistan.
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Demobbed he immediately
joined Komsomolskaya Pravda
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as a war reporter.
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Fed up with state interference there,
he and a bunch of colleagues left
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and founded Novaya Gazeta.
Within two years he was editor.
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Let's talk about cutting through,
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interrupting the Channel 1
flagship news last night
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with a homemade placard.
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The studio director immediately
cut away to something else.
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A very vague law passed 11 days ago
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and now you face up to 15 years in
prison in Russia
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for calling the war, the war.
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I still have a question about
'Foreign Agents'.
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This law has no judgement.
There is no court there.
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You are declared a 'Foreign Agent',
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there is no evidence,
there is no sentence.
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You are just branded a criminal.
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Let me remind you
of our favourite childhood book.
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This is exactly what happened to
Milady in The Three Musketeers.
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But when Milady was beheaded,
by the hangman at dawn,
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she was at least finally read
the sentence.
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First of all,
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I would like to congratulate you
on being awarded the Nobel Prize.
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So, your concern about
foreign agents.
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I'm not going to beat around
the bush.
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You said there was no verdict.
You're right, there really isn't one.
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Milady was sentenced
and her head was cut off,
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but no one is cutting anything off here.
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I'm shocked at what happened,
at what I'm seeing.
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I saw Putin a year and one week
before the invasion of Ukraine.
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He said that it was not in Russia's
interests to annex any territories.
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He was completely cool and calm.
Something happened this year
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that changed Putin's whole line
of thought.
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Everything that is happening
is a desperate measure.
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They've left us no other option.
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I don't know what happened to him.
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For some reason, I think
he could have been influenced
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by the absolute loneliness of Covid,
when he was alone with himself.
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And no good came of this meeting
between Putin and Putin.
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It's raining bombs.
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God knows how many died.
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But we can't go and help.
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Dima's confides his plan is to stay
one step ahead of the authorities
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in a risky game of cat and mouse.
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Patrick. We received two censorship
warnings in one week.
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That means there
will be no further warning.
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We will be stripped of our right
to publish the newspaper.
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Right, so look this is the first time
you've suspended the paper,
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this is your paper that you started,
so how did that feel personally?
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Well, the other option is this.
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We are accused of extremism and our
employees are put in prison.
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And how dangerous is the situation
for you all at the moment?
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I don't think about the danger.
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For us, for the newspaper,
for our journalists,
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I think the biggest danger is war.
295
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We must stop the war
and then talk about ourselves,
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about our companies,
about our newspapers.
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Patrick, we'll be back.
I promise you we'll be back.
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Novaya Gazeta forever!
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I'm going to say one more thing.
No one knows this yet.
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Patrick, my medal has a new destiny.
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Today we reached an agreement
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with one of the largest auction
houses in the world.
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That we're going to sell the Nobel
medal at auction in New York.
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And together with UNICEF.
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Fantastic! Good.
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The money from the sale of this medal
will be used to help refugees,
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Ukrainian refugees and their children.
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When?
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Do you know when
the auction will take place?
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I know, but I won't tell you.
No discussion!
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Less of that! Ok, good luck!
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Two days later, Dima goes public.
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I got into my compartment
I took my seat.
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I put on pyjamas
and a New York Rangers jersey,
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when a young man ran
into the compartment
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and asked "Are you Muratov?"
I said "Yes".
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He says "This is for you."
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You bastard!
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You can't, you bastard!
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Excuse me, please arrest this man.
321
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Take your mask off!
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He refused to take off his mask.
323
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,640
I filmed him talking
to a police officer
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and saw that the policeman
had his passport.
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I need your phone,
and I need to figure out
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who leaked the seat number
of the compartment I'm in.
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Goodbye everyone, bye bye.
328
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:19,440
Let's see what you can do
about it now.
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We just called it in.
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And I hope he would now be detained
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because he had committed a crime.
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My editorial team to whom I handed
over any videos and clues,
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within 24 hours, thanks
to our investigative team,
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found the person who did it.
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He wasn't alone.
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They belong to a military
veteran group near Moscow.
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All of them work under the roof
of the secret services.
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This happened a couple of days after
you announced the auction.
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So, was it a message?
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This was within a week
of announcing the auction.
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Really, I hadn't thought about it,
you're right!
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They know which train I'm on,
where I'm sitting.
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They have access to all
the databases.
344
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'We represent the interests of the
State'. That's what I was told.
345
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Dima calls. Turns out that
the paint wasn't just paint.
346
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,160
It was laced with acetone.
347
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Yesterday I was examined
at an ophthalmology clinic.
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00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:22,960
I have burnt tissue in both eyes.
And burns to the eyelids.
349
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,880
Worse in the left,
less bad in the right.
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Thank God the cornea isn't damaged.
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00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,599
If someone intends to intervene in
what is happening from the outside,
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they should know, that they
will create for Russia
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an unacceptable strategic threat.
354
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,160
They should also know
that our response
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to oncoming strikes
will be lightning fast.
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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:20,400
We received another warning
from Roskomnadzor
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and the Prosecutor General's office.
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It was the second in a week.
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00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,680
And yet another fine, It's the tenth
or twelfth, I don't remember.
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1st April the twenty ninth birthday
of the newspaper.
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We all gathered probably
for the last time
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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,079
and it was the birthday of a paper
that doesn't even go to print anymore.
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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,799
I would like to tell you, that our country
will need rehabilitation,
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preferably during our lifetime.
365
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,960
And it will start with us.
Because the outstanding work
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that this newspaper has done
under impossible conditions
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will go down in history forever.
368
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,480
There are many people,
lots of people who left,
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who don't want to stay in Moscow.
370
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,759
There were farewells every day
in the office
371
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,319
between those who stay
and those who leave.
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00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920
It was a tough goodbye.
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00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,760
My colleagues were walking down the
corridor with backpacks and bags.
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00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,000
I won't see many of them
for years, probably.
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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719
And these are people
we've lived our lives with.
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00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,719
They are the most talented people,
who we found one by one.
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00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,519
They are all brilliant,
talented professionals.
378
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,639
And so we say goodbye to them.
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00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,079
The first fruits of Dima's secret
negotiations.
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An anonymous apartment block
in a Riga suburb
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00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,519
is now home to a handful
of his journalists.
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00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,679
They are trying to put out
Novaya Europe,
383
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,480
but they can't admit
any link to Moscow
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00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,760
for fear everyone there gets jailed.
385
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,639
We have worked here for let's say
three or four weeks already.
386
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:26,239
We have to say that we totally
different newspaper
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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,039
from Novaya Gazeta in Moscow,
you know, totally different.
388
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,159
No connection at all.
389
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,559
No, no connection at all.
Absolutely no connection.
390
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,000
Yeah Absolutely not...
another newspaper.
391
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:43,840
I feel like you have some kind of
duty. The duty is to stop war.
392
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,320
Novaya Gazeta brings information,
393
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,159
brings information about
the situation with casualties
394
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,760
and war losses for Russian society.
395
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Our mission probably is to bring
some unpleasant truth for Russians.
396
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,559
For Dima, how is it for him?
397
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,960
I feel like it's tragedy for him,
398
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,480
that's a kind of personal loss.
399
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,800
Our task is to show that
it was not a complete loss.
400
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,480
Close his eyes, my brother,
over there, the fourth one.
401
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,599
The fourth one?
402
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,760
The fourth one. Or which one is it?
403
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,000
Was this orchestrated or was this from
just rogue units of the Russians?
404
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,360
Of course, it was ordered to kill
civilian's, it was order,
405
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,920
and what you see here in Bucha.
406
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,599
Actually you see it's not only war
crimes, it's crimes against humanity.
407
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,920
The Bucha shock wave goes around
the world but it doesn't reach Russia.
408
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,719
Reports of the atrocities
are dismissed as lies
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00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,800
and Putin's ratings go up.
410
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Today, at the foot of the country's
largest hydro-electric dam
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an action was held in support
of our country's military.
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00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:49,880
One hundred and fifty students from
the Siberian Federal University
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00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,199
lined up with Russian flags
into the letter Z.
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00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,800
It has already become a modern symbol
characters of the fight against Nazism.
415
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,119
Dima decides he has to make
another risky journey
416
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:14,760
and use the freedom of the west
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00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,920
to denounce the war in a way
he cannot at home.
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- Bonjour
- Bonjour
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00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,079
Why is society, or the majority of it
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00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,960
supporting the eternal power
of Vladimir Putin?
421
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:46,280
These polls, which show
that the overwhelming majority
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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,599
support the special operation
in Ukraine,
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are all conducted by phone.
424
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:58,599
Someone calls and asks, 'Do you
support the President's efforts?'
425
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:06,280
So they know your phone number,
where you live, where you work.
426
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,599
They can check your internet
search history.
427
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,519
And people, of course,
can't be honest.
428
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:17,920
Some of them.
429
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,400
There's a huge experiment happening
with 150 million people.
430
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,280
Some people can resist propaganda,
some can't.
431
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,719
I can't blame my whole country
for supporting the war.
432
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,199
It's radiation.
Propaganda is like radiation.
433
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:54,199
Over the last six months to a year,
the largest media companies
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that expressed alternative views
to the government
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00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,719
have been closed down.
436
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,800
When society doesn't notice that
there is no free media left
437
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,480
this means that propaganda has won.
438
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,719
Just remember all those stories
about Viagra,
439
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
packs of which are being handed out
to our soldiers.
440
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:16,400
Yes, being handed out
to our soldiers,
441
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,800
for them to rape Ukrainian grannies.
442
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,880
Gawd, those grannies
would spend their burial savings
443
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,320
to get raped by Russian soldiers.
444
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:36,719
These words are spoken by
Head of the State Russian Channel RTR
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00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:44,079
and Director of Broadcasting for the
whole of Russia, Anton Krasovsky.
446
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,320
Should Ukraine remain on the map
of the world?
447
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Everyday,
448
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:01,599
more and more of Dima's journalists
make the risky journey to Riga.
449
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,679
Half of the paper's staff
have fled Russia.
450
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:21,280
We need stable WIFI, some space,
some furniture, and nothing else.
451
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,199
Look at all the people who are here.
452
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,559
Next week there will be more.
453
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,519
Maybe ten or twenty,
let's say twenty.
454
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,559
Ok, this whole zone can be yours.
455
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,920
20 people coming here?
This is going to be an operation.
456
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Yeah. One option is to just to keep
silence in Russia and you know,
457
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:56,320
no one wanted to do this.
458
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840
Is there a deadline?
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00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:06,639
Preliminarily, we can say
the 9th May.
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A very good date!
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Dear Russian Citizens!
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00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:26,079
Dear Veterans, fellow soldiers,
and sailors,
463
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:30,239
I congratulate you
on The Great Victory Day!
464
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:41,800
So now you are fighting
for our people in Donbass
465
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and for the security
of our Motherland, Russia.
466
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,760
Russia called on the West to engage
in an honest dialogue,
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00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,039
search for reasonable
compromise solutions,
468
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,840
and take into account
each other's interests.
469
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,880
It's all in vain.
470
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:12,199
Glory to our valiant armed forces,
for Russia and for victory.
471
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,119
So, this is home?
472
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,719
This is home, yeah. This is our
department and you can see...
473
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800
Hey, how are you?
474
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,320
Against the odds, Kirill gets
his paper out on May the 9th.
475
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,079
We publish here, it's like
basically like a magazine.
476
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,480
And so, we published it here in Riga
477
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,519
and we sold it in Latvia
and in Estonia.
478
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:09,960
But we have a lot of problems with
colour because, any colours we did,
479
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,880
it just looked like Russian Novaya
Gazeta and it's unsafe for them.
480
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,440
So we tried to recreate new versions.
481
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,599
If you can imagine it was done
in a week
482
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,440
by a group of people who are
basically sitting on suitcases.
483
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,119
You can imagine it's kind
of good work
484
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:36,039
and basically, I am proud of this.
485
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,320
We probably sold, let's say,
5,000 of copies.
486
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,199
Kirill and Dima are facing down an
increasingly triumphant Kremlin.
487
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:06,639
By the end of May Russian forces
control 20% of Ukraine's territory.
488
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,599
How is it possible
that for the first time in history
489
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:29,800
the whole of life on Earth depends
on the finger of one man?
490
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:41,960
Many people will now take offence
at me.
491
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,000
How did many politicians behave?
492
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,679
They came to Moscow, met with human
rights activists,
493
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,599
took pictures with them
494
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,400
and then went to sign trade agreements
495
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,119
for oil, gas, titanium.
496
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,079
Have you read the EU report?
497
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:10,440
Ten EU countries have sold
237,000,000 Euros worth of weapons.
498
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:14,159
Who knows whether these are being
fired on Ukraine or not?
499
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,679
Bypassing sanctions,
ten EU countries.
500
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,400
You do realise that Putin knows
he is being sold arms, don't you?!
501
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:30,679
How can Europe say anything to him
about values after that?
502
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,199
And this is the first time
you've seen him since Oslo?
503
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,840
- Yes yes.
- Not anymore.
504
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,199
I know it's been hard to get both
of us together in the same place.
505
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,960
- It is.
- We both have challenges to travel.
506
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:59,440
Just in case I was attacked again,
507
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:05,039
my editors made sure I had tickets
508
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,440
from different airports
and train stations
509
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:09,960
to different destinations.
510
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:17,639
Just like Dima, Maria runs an online
operation independent of the state.
511
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920
just like Dima,
she faces a hostile government.
512
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,239
So what's your personal situation?
513
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,599
I heard something about a ton of
court cases.
514
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:29,880
Seven, I have seven left,
515
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,639
and I have to get approval
to travel every single time
516
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,920
and it's like you know sometimes they
give in and sometimes they don't.
517
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,280
Don't you ever get fed-up?
518
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:44,519
I don't think we can,
there's it's not an option.
519
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Seriously it's not an option.
520
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,840
I also run a company with 100 people
521
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,639
who are doing great stuff, right...
522
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,599
My god, look at gorgeous Geneva.
523
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,679
Maria Ressa, she is one of the best
investigative journalists on the planet.
524
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Everyone has been concerned
about her situation for a long time.
525
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,960
And I know that if you count
all the prison terms
526
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,679
she could be sentenced to,
527
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,119
it would be
just over one hundred years.
528
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:33,639
You did, you put him in that blue suit.
Very nice blue suit for these eyes.
529
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:41,840
- Take off your glasses.
- It's okay!
530
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,280
It's too bright.
531
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,280
I believe I have an important idea
532
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,480
which I am discussing
with European politicians.
533
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:03,639
I want big businesses worldwide
and some states,
534
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:08,320
to create a fund supporting
exiled journalists.
535
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,800
85% of all journalists
who have been murdered,
536
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,440
their cases have not been resolved so
we have a problem of protection first
537
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:23,000
but then on truth and justice.
538
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,559
So that will be really important
for us to know
539
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:28,360
from your side what you think.
540
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,840
Switzerland can do, but also us at
O.T.H.R. What can we do better?
541
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,079
I'll, keep it short,
542
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:39,440
so Dmitry gets... because his country
invaded another one. Sorry!
543
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:48,800
How free are we to express
ourselves here?
544
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,639
Is this being broadcasted somewhere,
545
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,719
or are we just talking amongst
ourselves?
546
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,000
It would be great if we could talk
without the cameras turned on.
547
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,039
How was Madam Bachelet?
Did she give you anything?
548
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,199
She was in a hurry to get
to the Hague.
549
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,119
She kept asking how she could help.
550
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,440
We asked her how we could help
the UN.
551
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,440
And the answer was?
552
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,960
Yes, she said the UN is a big
organisation, maybe too big.
553
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,920
But what did you want from her?
554
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,199
We want all of God's kingdom,
heaven, and immortality.
555
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,360
Yes.
556
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,800
She didn't have it on her!
557
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,039
There is moral support and interest.
558
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,199
Sometimes that's important.
559
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,880
It's like coming to the UN
with your own couch
560
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,119
and lying down for a therapy session.
561
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,679
Okay.
562
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,159
Press safety is not an abstract
issue for my friend and his team.
563
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,280
Our journalists have been repeatedly
sent funeral wreaths.
564
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:56,400
At my CEO's country house,
the gates were daubed with swastikas.
565
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,960
To my friend Venediktov, who lives
near the editorial offices,
566
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:07,000
they threw a pig's head at the door
and drew an anti-Semitic sign.
567
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,960
This happens all the time.
568
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,039
We will continue to work
under these conditions.
569
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:20,840
After a month away,
570
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,840
Dima's in Tallinn on the final leg
of his journey back to Moscow.
571
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:27,480
He has taken trains, boats, planes,
572
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:31,559
all to throw the authorities off the scent
to prevent another attack on him.
573
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:41,639
You know, it's very hard to imagine
your homeland without freedom.
574
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:46,199
But it's just as hard to imagine
freedom without your homeland.
575
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,559
Right now, it is, for me, very scary
for my colleagues in Russia.
576
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,679
I have anxiety about them,
constant anxiety.
577
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,039
We already lost too many.
578
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,760
When you see Dima, he's going back
to Russia, what do you feel?
579
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,519
Me personally, I prefer he would not.
580
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,159
But I also know him too well
581
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:24,960
to expect that from him that he stay
here, no, he goes, that's him,
582
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:29,599
that's actually, he exists in Russia,
he is Russia, for me.
583
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,039
He belongs there.
584
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,039
Are you scared?
585
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440
You know we've made
a deal about that.
586
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,039
'Are you scared'
and 'What about your safety'
587
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,400
questions are not going
to be answered.
588
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:52,039
I work in Moscow. I can't leave the
editorial team that is still there.
589
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,360
I can't leave those people,
it's impossible.
590
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,519
In Moscow, it's day 1 of Dima's
latest cunning move.
591
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,880
If he can't put out a physical paper,
well how about a magazine?
592
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,519
With all the articles
you can't otherwise publish?
593
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,360
We are now making a supplement
to the closed newspaper,
594
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:45,559
which will be called the first
syllable from Novaya Gazeta: 'NO'.
595
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:59,440
As promised, in parallel with
the magazine release,
596
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:04,400
work is underway
on a new internet platform.
597
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:12,199
His second gambit, a YouTube channel,
which could reach millions.
598
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,639
Running all the interviews
you can't run.
599
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,280
We've stayed at home, stayed here
with our readers who can't leave.
600
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,679
Not everyone can leave.
601
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,039
This means that someone has to stay
with those who cannot leave.
602
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:29,800
We don't think about the risks.
603
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,440
And now we will discuss with you
the issue of printing houses.
604
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,480
When Yuri Shchekochikhin
was murdered,
605
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:03,880
for the first time in my life,
I felt like an orphan.
606
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,320
He was a whole huge world,
he was my closest friend.
607
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,679
He, Major Ismailov and I
608
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,920
exchanged prisoners in the Chechen
war for the first time.
609
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:30,039
Thanks to Yuri and Ismailov, the paper
exchanged 147 prisoners.
610
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,880
Got them out of there.
611
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:40,400
And Shcekochikhin was the most
important person in my life.
612
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,119
And throughout Novaya Gazeta's
career,
613
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:54,480
throughout the history of Novaya
Gazeta, we have often helped people,
614
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,239
rescued prisoners,
615
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,840
saved sick children with spinal muscular
atrophy, helped prisoners.
616
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,719
I think this is our core mission.
617
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,480
I'm not an observer,
I'm a participant.
618
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,960
Through all my conservations
with Dima, there's one constant.
619
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,199
I've got to be in New York
on auction day.
620
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:31,199
I'm feeling nervous.
621
00:57:35,079 --> 00:57:39,079
I don't want this to be just
a symbolic gesture,
622
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:46,320
I want to raise a seriously
big sum of money
623
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,000
to help Ukrainian refugees.
624
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,639
I was in hospital
for cardiology examinations
625
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:09,639
and I realised I felt incredibly
powerless about what was happening.
626
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:12,199
That the war had started
and there was nothing I could do.
627
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,519
And that night I thought
628
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:19,519
that one thing I could do is not
to be self-pitying.
629
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,960
And that I should give away
the most precious thing I have.
630
00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:32,719
I thought it would be very appropriate
to auction a Nobel medal.
631
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:39,519
When the war in Ukraine started
632
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,639
there was one day when
it was really hard on me
633
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:43,920
and I was crying
on the phone with him, sobbing,
634
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,920
wailing you know, all of the ins
and outs...
635
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:51,639
and he went, Fin I know... that you
feel really bad right now.
636
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,880
I think the only way for people
like us to feel better
637
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,079
is to help those who feel even worse.
638
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,320
The choice of Heritage
s absolutely intentional.
639
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,679
Heritage isn't taking a single
percent from the sale of the medal.
640
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:22,800
It's not my night, I'm just honoured
to be part of it.
641
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:27,079
Is there anything you need from me?
642
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:32,480
It's a loaded question.
643
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:44,960
I am very grateful to UNICEF
who will take this money.
644
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:48,159
UNICEF will distribute the money,
not me or the newspaper.
645
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,840
- Now it's time!
- Yes let's do this.
646
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,760
I'll be waiting for the third bang
of the gavel.
647
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400
And after the third one,
one thing we can be sure of,
648
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,840
I will have a drink.
649
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:14,559
It is my profound honour
to welcome now Dmitry Muratov.
650
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,320
Today is International Refugee Day.
And it's not a holiday.
651
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:40,440
There are 16 million Ukrainian
refugees... 40% are children.
652
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:47,119
Two thirds of all children of Ukraine
are forced to leave their homes.
653
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:51,679
I am asking you all to think for
a second that it is your child.
654
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:59,199
Dmitry, are you ready to do this?
Are you ready?
655
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:05,199
875 now to go to 900, 875 now to go
to 900. there's 900 thousand.
656
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,400
Thank you very much. 925, now to go
to 9. Now to go to 950, 950.
657
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,719
There's a million dollars...
we are over a million dollars!
658
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,360
OK let's make a bet as to how much it
is going to get.
659
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,239
I say two and a half million.
660
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Two and a half million dollars?
661
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,960
If it goes for more, you owe me
a 12 year old Macallan.
662
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:36,800
And if it's less, I owe you one.
663
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,920
There's two million. Two million
dollars. Two million. Two million.
664
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,280
Theres 2.4, 2.5. Now 2.6. Same bidders
back and forth. Same bidders.
665
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Don't look at her. Don't look at her.
666
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,119
Now we are going to three million
dollars. Three million dollars.
667
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:03,920
Nick are you on the phone? Let's go.
There's four million dollars.
668
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:09,039
What do you think
669
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,920
the Russian government's reaction
to the auction is going to be?
670
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,559
I think there will be...
671
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:20,159
a wave of hate
from the propagandists.
672
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,920
I don't think it will be pleasant.
673
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,039
I think there are tons of idiots
out there
674
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:33,320
who will think they need
to get back at me.
675
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:42,039
The thing is, those people that covered
me in paint, they are well known.
676
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320
The editorial team found them
in a day.
677
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,639
They were detained by the police,
but then released.
678
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,960
That means they have protection.
679
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,000
It's complicated because
I am angry at him
680
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,119
because all I want for him is
to be safe.
681
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,599
The more he does, the less safe
he is.
682
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:07,599
But, I can't describe the kind of
pride I feel. It's overwhelming.
683
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,920
I know he's... I'm scared but
I know he's doing the right thing
684
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,960
and I was raised to believe that
doing the right thing means the most.
685
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,599
I'm at 16.6 million. 16.6.
686
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:23,840
Take another good look at what
you are getting. Now 16.8.
687
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:26,119
What do you think?
Want to go to 16.8?
688
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,239
He says he's thinking about it.
16.8. New bidder. Completely new guy.
689
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:38,840
Can I just hear that one more
time?
690
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,079
Take your mask off so I can hear
you, please.
691
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,360
Stated value bids it
692
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,599
at one hundred and three million
five hundred thousand dollars.
693
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,679
Well, that's one way to do it!
694
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,199
That's a lot of dough.
695
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:15,159
It was shocking but like ... it's my
dad. He always pulls crazy stunts.
696
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:21,199
Something always happens.
He calls us like his Angel Keeper
697
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,360
or whatever it is called
in English. Guardian Angel.
698
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,639
He believes in Guardian Angels.
Who knows?
699
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:32,039
You did a good thing.
Exactly what you wanted.
700
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:56,639
A jubilant Dima suggests we meet
in Paris on his long journey home.
701
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:07,159
If they forced you, is there anywhere
other than Russia that you could live?
702
01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:12,400
Well, maybe in Russia as well.
703
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,920
I could, for a while...
704
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,360
live in the city of Bruges.
705
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,119
I fell in love with this small town.
706
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:28,440
But a week at most.
707
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,800
- Really? You'd be so bored.
- I want a boring life.
708
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,559
I need a week of boring life.
709
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:40,519
This is my dream, give me a week
of boring life.
710
01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:46,199
Where nothing happens, so I can forget
what day of the week it is.
711
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,519
I'm gonna ask my usual question.
Is it safe to go back?
712
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,800
I don't know.
713
01:05:57,679 --> 01:05:58,840
I don't know.
714
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,960
I don't know, it's not my decision.
I don't know how they will react.
715
01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:09,280
Whether they will declare me an enemy
and a Foreign Agent, or not.
716
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,639
There is nothing
but the unknown ahead.
717
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:38,480
Do you have any idea who bought
the medal?
718
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:44,800
This is a consortium,
lawyers explained.
719
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:47,800
So it's not just one person.
720
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,559
More importantly,
721
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,360
I know that UNICEF,
Heritage and the bank
722
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:02,239
have been very thorough in checking
the provenance of the money.
723
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,400
I warned your producer, Patrick,
724
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,880
with respect, your documentary
project lost.
725
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,280
And that's why I drink
what you lost to me.
726
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,000
He can't enjoy my whisky for long.
727
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,280
The Kremlin moves for check in the
deadly game they are playing with him.
728
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,920
Everyone knows that an order was
issued on Saturday
729
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:01,159
to block the website.
730
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,199
I tried to find out
in an unofficial way
731
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,960
why they suddenly attacked
at such speed,
732
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:10,679
but as Sokolov wrote:
733
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,440
'The baby survived for seven days
and nine hours.'
734
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,000
Let's just bring you
some breaking news.
735
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:31,680
The former Russian President
Mikhail Gorbachev had died.
736
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,479
He was 91 years old.
737
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,079
Gorbachev put Human Rights
above State Law.
738
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:14,479
For Gorbachev, world peace was more
important than personal power.
739
01:09:17,239 --> 01:09:20,840
30 years without war, without
the threat of nuclear war.
740
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:24,279
No-one else has been
able to give the world
741
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:25,720
such a gift for thirty years.
742
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,479
Patrick, I knew Gorbachev like this.
743
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,439
- Great shot!
- Tough, smart, fast.
744
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,800
I saw Gorbachev happy.
745
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:48,760
Very happy, they were a sexy couple.
746
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:55,920
This is saying goodbye to Raisa.
747
01:09:59,119 --> 01:10:01,039
I love this man.
748
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,119
He was not afraid of the opposition.
749
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,159
He was not afraid of competition,
he was not afraid to end war.
750
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,920
Good afternoon, dear colleagues!
751
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,560
We have already heard many times
752
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,239
that the West wants to fight us
to the last Ukrainian.
753
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,359
This is a tragedy
for the Ukrainian people.
754
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,920
But it seems that this is how
it's going be.
755
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:46,399
Everyone should know that
we haven't even got started yet.
756
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:55,920
Not a single person from the entire
Russian elite dared say a word to Putin.
757
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:59,520
And these people call themselves
the elite.
758
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:07,279
This elite has received absolutely
everything from Putin.
759
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,720
The elite is scared of Putin,
more than anything else in the world.
760
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,239
More than God.
761
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,880
Suddenly opposition figure after
opposition figure is detained,
762
01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:28,680
all of them facing huge
jail sentences.
763
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:16,399
Our employees are being imprisoned.
764
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,560
For example, Andrei Zayakin, who is
responsible for the big data department.
765
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,840
He is a great scientist.
766
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:27,720
Special forces broke into his apartment.
767
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:33,239
They stormed his apartment,
because three years ago,
768
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:39,199
he transferred one thousand roubles,
that's ten pounds,
769
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,279
in support of the politician
Alexei Navalny.
770
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,479
We're living now in a pirate state
771
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,680
where they have guns
and others don't have guns.
772
01:12:57,319 --> 01:12:58,560
Some do whatever they want,
773
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:02,319
while others are forced to do what
they say, like Navalny.
774
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,720
Of course, I was absolutely
hocked by this photo.
775
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:14,000
Look at what Alexei Navalny
has been turned into.
776
01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:19,039
Now I'm not a political supporter
of Alexei Navalny,
777
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:26,880
but JK Rowling in her book,
778
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,720
I think it's "The Prisoner of Azkaban",
779
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,960
there are Dementors who suck the life
and joy out of a person.
780
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,359
He's a critic of the current regime,
and life is being sucked out of him.
781
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,199
In early September,
782
01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:55,880
it's checkmate the government
launches a wave of court cases
783
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,199
that will close all of Novaya's
operations inside Russia, for good.
784
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:07,600
Guided by Article 175,
785
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,840
the court has decided to invalidate
the registration
786
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,680
of the newspaper Novaya Gazeta,
registration recorded June 4th 2006.
787
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:23,000
Serial Number RF 77241833.
788
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:29,199
A decision that has no legal basis.
789
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,640
We are being tried for allegedly
not handing over
790
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,039
any documents twenty years ago,
although everything was handed over.
791
01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:43,960
The verdict had already been decided,
it just hadn't been announced.
792
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,960
This is absolutely obvious
to everyone.
793
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,640
Tomorrow, we have another
court appearance.
794
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,319
Where are we going to court tomorrow?
795
01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:53,680
Same place!
796
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,159
And here, they will pull the verdict
out of the same folder
797
01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:59,720
and ban the magazine 'NO'
798
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,680
September the 6th, Dima's new
magazine to be closed.
799
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:12,680
September the 15th, it's over.
800
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,039
The Supreme Court rules
801
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,640
that every Novaya website inside
Russia should be shut.
802
01:15:25,039 --> 01:15:28,159
What should I say?
Can I tell you what the verdict was?
803
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:29,399
Didn't you know?
804
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,439
The representative
of the Ministry of Justice said,
805
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,600
"This is a precautionary measure".
806
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,760
I asked him,"Is it true that murder
is a precautionary measure?"
807
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,000
"Or is this actually a homicide?"
808
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,600
The Russian state is ruthlessly
asserting its supremacy.
809
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:07,039
Throughout Russian history the state
has had no compunction
810
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:09,840
about using brute force
to buttress its rule,
811
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,079
whether its repeated Tsarist
massacres of the peasantry,
812
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:16,760
the show trials of the 30s
or the Gulags of Soviet Rule.
813
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,119
The price of autocracy is all too
evident.
814
01:16:26,199 --> 01:16:28,840
In a terrible echo of Dima's Nobel
speech,
815
01:16:29,279 --> 01:16:33,960
the vortex of war that he foresaw
in Oslo, is coming all too true.
816
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:48,119
The October 8th explosion
is a terrorist act.
817
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,359
It is simply impossible to leave
a crime of this kind unanswered.
818
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:58,119
This morning, a massive strike
was launched
819
01:16:58,199 --> 01:17:02,720
with long-range, high-precision air,
sea and land-based weapons
820
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:09,600
against energy, military and
communications facilities in Ukraine.
821
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,039
With Russia an increasingly dangerous
place for him,
822
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:25,600
Dima's in Vienna
for one last secret meeting.
823
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,079
So why are you here?
824
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,439
Well, uh, it's a kind of conference
825
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:40,319
but we use this opportunity to meet,
Nobel Prize winner Dmitry Muratov.
826
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,920
Well, it's a rare opportunity during
this year and during this war.
827
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,039
Publicly, the two men can't be seen
together anywhere,
828
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,000
it risks proving Dima
a Foreign Agent.
829
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,039
Curtains closed, phones off,
830
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:02,239
this is the only way that Dima
can talk safely to Kirill.
831
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,479
They've got to keep the Riga
operation going, somehow.
832
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:16,359
You know, it's safe to say the defeat
of independent media
833
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,000
within Russia is complete.
834
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,239
The Judge, when he closed Novaya
Gazeta, his biggest rebuke,
835
01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:28,479
the main accusation
was: 'You sow doubt'.
836
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,600
What the fuck else are we supposed
to do?!
837
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,640
That's our job, to ask questions.
838
01:18:39,319 --> 01:18:45,640
Maybe we're approaching the end
of what we can do in Russia.
839
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,840
This has been the worst year
of my life.
840
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,159
My country is at war.
841
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:17,680
I would like there to be peace
in Russia and I calmly retire,
842
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:23,399
go to hockey and read books.
843
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,159
But this is only possible
if Russia is at peace.
844
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,800
A month later a gesture
of defiance to the Kremlin.
845
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,479
At an award ceremony in Europe.
846
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,920
Dima and Kirill are seen together
in public for the first time,
847
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,960
ending the pretence
that Novaya Europe
848
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,159
has nothing to do with Novaya Moscow.
849
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:08,720
Don't I look good in this suit?
I've lost weight.
850
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:23,079
Ladies and gentlemen,
851
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:25,079
I ask you to applaud Dmitry Muratov,
who is with us this evening.
852
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,439
- Welcome, Dmitry.
- Thanks.
853
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,800
This is a new era of confrontation.
between dictatorships,
854
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,199
authoritarian regimes
and independent journalism.
855
01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:47,960
86% of journalists' murders
are unsolved.
856
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,920
Can you tell me another profession
like this?
857
01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:57,079
262 media outlets, independent
of the state.
858
01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:58,880
And the Russian state have been
closed in Russia.
859
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,960
More than 300 journalists
and activists
860
01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:04,520
have been declared Foreign Agents,
861
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,000
that is, in Stalinist terms,
enemies of the people.
862
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:14,039
First journalists were killed, and
now they're killing the entire media.
863
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:21,039
Thank you so much.
Thanks Dmitry, Thank you all.
864
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:31,319
Putin lives in the clouds.
865
01:21:33,039 --> 01:21:35,880
He's thinking about how to change
the past.
866
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,640
He thinks that death is good
867
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,800
if it means dying for the Motherland.
868
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,720
And I think that living
for the Motherland
869
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,880
is the most important thing
for Russia.
870
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,720
We have a conflict between Life
and Death.
871
01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:04,520
And that was the last time I saw him.
872
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:10,920
He's in Moscow, eyes hurting, paper
closed, most of his journalists in exile.
873
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,239
We've had to stop our filming
874
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:17,039
it's just too dangerous for him
and his remaining team.
875
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:26,960
But then I get a message from Moscow.
Dima may be down, but he's not out.
876
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:40,680
I'd like to drink to those who left
and are saving our honour.
877
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,079
I'd like to drink to those
who stayed behind
878
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:48,600
who are doing exactly the same thing.
879
01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:55,920
We've got a future.
I can't tell you when it is,
880
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,680
but I promise I will soon.
881
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,000
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