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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:16,799 [ominous music] 2 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:23,762 [people chattering] 3 00:00:29,986 --> 00:00:31,466 - Russians have learned that there 4 00:00:31,553 --> 00:00:34,904 is an asymmetry in conventional warfare. 5 00:00:34,991 --> 00:00:36,645 The Russian military does not match 6 00:00:36,732 --> 00:00:38,777 that of the United States by far. 7 00:00:38,864 --> 00:00:41,824 How do you then balance out the asymmetry? 8 00:00:43,086 --> 00:00:46,002 One way to do that is to invest in much cheaper measures. 9 00:00:46,089 --> 00:00:48,787 These nonconventional active measures 10 00:00:48,874 --> 00:00:51,529 to try to weaken western institutions, 11 00:00:51,616 --> 00:00:55,403 undermine western democracies versus sending in the tanks. 12 00:01:00,538 --> 00:01:05,195 - Putin realizes that if we're divided as a nation 13 00:01:05,282 --> 00:01:10,287 we cannot protect ourselves from threats within and without. 14 00:01:11,462 --> 00:01:13,160 - From the Russian point of view, 15 00:01:13,247 --> 00:01:15,727 political warfare is just part of the art of war. 16 00:01:15,814 --> 00:01:17,816 - What they're driving at over the longer term 17 00:01:17,903 --> 00:01:20,602 is to watch democracy crumble from the inside out. 18 00:01:31,743 --> 00:01:33,267 - I'm sitting with him at dinner. 19 00:01:33,354 --> 00:01:37,097 I told him I'd been at the memorial 20 00:01:37,184 --> 00:01:38,794 of the siege of Leningrad. 21 00:01:38,881 --> 00:01:40,491 He said I'll tell you a story. 22 00:01:40,578 --> 00:01:42,754 He said my father was one of those people 23 00:01:42,841 --> 00:01:44,321 who was on the front lines. 24 00:01:44,408 --> 00:01:47,803 And had gotten 24 hours off to go home. 25 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:49,718 As he was walking down the street to his apartment, 26 00:01:49,805 --> 00:01:53,504 he saw a big pile of bodies which was not at all uncommon. 27 00:01:53,591 --> 00:01:56,290 He saw a leg sticking out and a shoe on the foot 28 00:01:56,377 --> 00:01:59,119 and he recognized that as being his wife. 29 00:02:00,816 --> 00:02:02,209 So he stopped and he screamed 30 00:02:02,296 --> 00:02:03,340 and said, well, that's my wife. 31 00:02:03,427 --> 00:02:04,167 That's my wife. 32 00:02:04,254 --> 00:02:05,995 I want my wife. 33 00:02:06,082 --> 00:02:07,910 The body collectors told him to leave and he kept demanding. 34 00:02:07,997 --> 00:02:10,956 At this point he's pulling his wife from under the pile. 35 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:12,871 He took her to their apartment 36 00:02:12,958 --> 00:02:14,786 and nursed her back to health. 37 00:02:14,873 --> 00:02:17,789 And then after the war she gave birth to Vladimir Putin. 38 00:02:22,577 --> 00:02:25,493 Putin sees himself as literally pulling the body 39 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:29,323 of Russia out of the pile, the dust bin of history. 40 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:30,846 You know, we are going to revive you. 41 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:31,977 You are not dead. 42 00:02:32,064 --> 00:02:33,327 And I will take care of you. 43 00:02:33,414 --> 00:02:36,068 I mean, that is the mindset. 44 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:39,811 - I think his ambitions always were to be the president 45 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:42,945 and then gather all the instruments of power 46 00:02:43,032 --> 00:02:45,121 into the presidency. 47 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:49,691 - His devotion to reasserting Russia's greatness 48 00:02:49,778 --> 00:02:51,693 is certainly in his self-interest 49 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:53,956 because he wants to be the czar. 50 00:02:54,043 --> 00:02:56,698 He wants to be the richest man in the world 51 00:02:56,785 --> 00:02:59,004 and he wants to settle scores. 52 00:03:00,702 --> 00:03:03,705 - He made his way up through the KGB. 53 00:03:03,792 --> 00:03:05,359 - His role in the KGB 54 00:03:05,446 --> 00:03:09,014 was to support Russian intelligence officers 55 00:03:09,101 --> 00:03:10,712 living under assumed identities 56 00:03:10,799 --> 00:03:12,975 under deep cover inside the United States 57 00:03:13,062 --> 00:03:14,933 and developing active measures 58 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,806 to impact the policies of the United States. 59 00:03:17,893 --> 00:03:19,982 - The KGB was power. 60 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:22,593 If you said that you were with the KGB, doors were open. 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,029 People would stand aside. 62 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:28,164 - In 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed, 63 00:03:28,251 --> 00:03:30,340 every republic that emerged from the debris 64 00:03:30,427 --> 00:03:32,299 of the Soviet Union agreed at the time 65 00:03:32,386 --> 00:03:36,216 to recognize the republics in their then existing borders. 66 00:03:39,958 --> 00:03:43,919 - Putin, like many Russians, feels that the dissolution, 67 00:03:44,006 --> 00:03:46,008 the dissolving of the Soviet Union 68 00:03:46,095 --> 00:03:49,359 was a horrific thing because it made the Russian people 69 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:51,796 and Russia itself smaller. 70 00:03:51,883 --> 00:03:53,929 And the Americans are celebrating all of this. 71 00:03:54,016 --> 00:03:57,889 [speaking in foreign language] 72 00:04:06,855 --> 00:04:09,118 - I think he's dedicated to building it back up. 73 00:04:09,901 --> 00:04:13,253 [downcast piano music] 74 00:04:20,956 --> 00:04:23,132 - The first time I met him in the spring of 1991, 75 00:04:23,219 --> 00:04:26,004 he was the deputy mayor of St. Petersburg 76 00:04:26,091 --> 00:04:29,660 working for the mayor whose name was Anatoly Sobchak. 77 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:34,839 Sobchak was this charismatic western leaning guy 78 00:04:34,926 --> 00:04:37,364 allied with Boris Yeltsin. 79 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:40,628 His deputy was the exact opposite of that. 80 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:42,934 Non-descript, grave bureaucrat. 81 00:04:43,021 --> 00:04:44,675 A very soft spoken. 82 00:04:46,198 --> 00:04:49,463 Had you asked me back then to name a thousand people 83 00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:51,116 that might be the next president of Russia 84 00:04:51,203 --> 00:04:52,857 he would not have made my list. 85 00:04:54,946 --> 00:04:56,905 - He supported Mayor Sobchak 86 00:04:56,992 --> 00:05:00,909 but he was also organizing this incredible network 87 00:05:00,996 --> 00:05:06,001 of former KGB foreign economic interest and local interest. 88 00:05:07,002 --> 00:05:08,830 - In the 1990's St. Petersburg was known 89 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:10,658 for organized crime and corruption. 90 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:14,966 State institutions were partnering 91 00:05:15,053 --> 00:05:16,794 with Kremlin organizations to rip off 92 00:05:16,881 --> 00:05:19,144 as much as they could as fast as they could. 93 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:21,930 - Putin was a pretty good fixer. 94 00:05:22,017 --> 00:05:23,279 He could make stuff happen. 95 00:05:23,366 --> 00:05:25,107 He knew how to work the system. 96 00:05:26,543 --> 00:05:29,111 - [Heather] Mr. Putin was able as deputy mayor 97 00:05:29,198 --> 00:05:32,897 to be the focal point of all of these different networks 98 00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:34,246 as they came together. 99 00:05:35,073 --> 00:05:38,120 - He was made FSB director. 100 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:41,602 The FSB is responsible for internal spying. 101 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:42,907 These are the guys who have the most funding, 102 00:05:42,994 --> 00:05:44,387 the most resources. 103 00:05:44,474 --> 00:05:47,216 - He learned which served him in good stead 104 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,305 how to maneuver politically. 105 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:57,182 - That became his primary goal. 106 00:05:57,269 --> 00:05:58,314 Power. 107 00:05:58,401 --> 00:06:00,925 The FSB was simply a ladder. 108 00:06:01,012 --> 00:06:04,494 - Almost immediately after the breakup of the Soviet Union, 109 00:06:04,581 --> 00:06:06,670 these oligarchs were able to take over 110 00:06:06,757 --> 00:06:09,891 state owned enterprises at bargain basement prices. 111 00:06:09,978 --> 00:06:13,068 It turned some of these individuals into multi-millionaires 112 00:06:13,155 --> 00:06:15,810 or even billionaires almost overnight. 113 00:06:15,897 --> 00:06:17,420 - Under Yeltsin, the oligarchs 114 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:19,727 became very powerful and very independent. 115 00:06:19,814 --> 00:06:21,903 And the power of the state was crumbling. 116 00:06:23,905 --> 00:06:25,863 The end of the Yeltsin years he obtained 117 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:29,171 almost sort of a buffoonish type of personality. 118 00:06:29,258 --> 00:06:30,302 You know, a drunk. 119 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:31,608 A little bit out of control. 120 00:06:34,219 --> 00:06:36,961 - Yeltsin was nervous and he chose to go with a guy 121 00:06:37,048 --> 00:06:40,487 that he thought would protect his family and their assets. 122 00:06:41,705 --> 00:06:44,273 That's, I think, the sole purpose why Putin 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,493 was selected to then run for president. 124 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,195 - Followed by the bombings of the apartment houses. 125 00:06:54,718 --> 00:06:58,200 - There were a series of terrorist attacks in 1999. 126 00:06:58,287 --> 00:07:01,072 [somber piano music] 127 00:07:01,159 --> 00:07:02,987 They found evidence of the FSB 128 00:07:03,074 --> 00:07:05,686 having been there and set that all up. 129 00:07:05,773 --> 00:07:08,253 - I know what has been alleged. 130 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:10,995 I find the evidence compelling and I know 131 00:07:11,082 --> 00:07:13,302 those terrorist attacks helped Vladimir Putin 132 00:07:13,389 --> 00:07:14,912 win the election. 133 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:18,525 I'm not ready to believe yet 134 00:07:18,612 --> 00:07:21,179 and maybe that's just my idealism getting in the way 135 00:07:21,266 --> 00:07:24,356 of my analytic side that the Russian government 136 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:27,882 would kill its own civilians to elect Putin president. 137 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:34,149 - The apartment bombings were KGB operations 138 00:07:34,236 --> 00:07:37,544 using a type of explosive that's only made 139 00:07:37,631 --> 00:07:39,937 in a KGB facility. 140 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:42,636 - Oh, sure. 141 00:07:42,723 --> 00:07:44,420 It was very clever and the Russian people 142 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:46,117 began to look for a leader. 143 00:07:46,204 --> 00:07:48,119 It's not the first time in history. 144 00:07:48,206 --> 00:07:49,817 You can compare it in some degree 145 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:52,559 to the 1930's and the rise of Adolph Hitler. 146 00:08:20,935 --> 00:08:23,241 - With respect to democracy, I think it's pretty clear 147 00:08:23,328 --> 00:08:26,331 from the very get go he feared independent actors. 148 00:08:26,418 --> 00:08:29,334 [speaking in foreign language] 149 00:08:29,421 --> 00:08:31,380 - Putin started forcing the independent media 150 00:08:31,467 --> 00:08:34,035 to knuckle under, putting in state control, 151 00:08:34,122 --> 00:08:36,124 turning it into propaganda outfits. 152 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:42,783 - Started arresting people who had different points of view. 153 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:44,698 [men yelling] 154 00:08:44,785 --> 00:08:48,397 - Then he starts going after independent journalists. 155 00:08:48,484 --> 00:08:50,181 They start ending up dead. 156 00:08:50,268 --> 00:08:51,792 Assassinated. 157 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:54,316 - The most prominent journalist in Russia, 158 00:08:54,403 --> 00:08:58,538 Anna Politkovskaya was murdered on Putin's birthday. 159 00:09:02,324 --> 00:09:05,196 - Putin brought the oligarchs to heel. 160 00:09:20,298 --> 00:09:22,387 - A number of them were forced to leave the country 161 00:09:22,474 --> 00:09:25,260 Some were killed in mysterious fashions. 162 00:09:25,347 --> 00:09:28,524 Those who remained are basically lapdogs of his. 163 00:09:37,838 --> 00:09:39,230 - Putin was letting everyone know 164 00:09:39,317 --> 00:09:40,667 that this period of everybody getting to do 165 00:09:40,754 --> 00:09:42,364 their own thing was very much over. 166 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:45,672 - And then he brought his most trusted friends 167 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,065 and confidantes from the intelligence services 168 00:09:48,152 --> 00:09:52,504 into the key positions, controlling all those businesses. 169 00:09:53,723 --> 00:09:56,987 - Vladimir Putin and his oligarchs used money, 170 00:09:57,074 --> 00:09:59,337 essentially stolen from the Russian people. 171 00:09:59,424 --> 00:10:01,209 - If you're one of these big kleptocrats, 172 00:10:01,296 --> 00:10:05,387 getting your stolen proceeds into a rule of law system 173 00:10:05,474 --> 00:10:07,171 is one of your highest priorities. 174 00:10:07,258 --> 00:10:10,610 - Once that money is laundered, they have access 175 00:10:10,697 --> 00:10:13,090 to western banks and they can do whatever they want. 176 00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:18,182 - Semion Mogilevich was the first big organized crime figure 177 00:10:19,444 --> 00:10:23,318 in Russia who figured out how to launder massive amounts 178 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:25,712 out of Russia and the former Soviet Union. 179 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:28,323 - Semion Mogilevich is worth about 10 billion dollars 180 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:30,542 according to FBI reports. 181 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:32,457 He's considered the money laundering genius. 182 00:10:32,544 --> 00:10:34,503 He's sometimes called the brainy don 183 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:37,506 'cause he has a economics degree. 184 00:10:37,593 --> 00:10:40,117 - [Scott] The most important of the Russian crime bosses. 185 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:43,033 The man who was for years on the 10 Most Wanted list 186 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,861 in the United States. 187 00:10:44,948 --> 00:10:47,516 - [Jonathan] He still lives happily in Moscow today. 188 00:10:49,083 --> 00:10:51,259 - [Reporter] In Russia he still gets the VIP treatment 189 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:53,740 and is rarely without a bodyguard who chauffeurs him 190 00:10:53,827 --> 00:10:58,396 and his 200,000 pound armor plated bomb proof limousine. 191 00:10:59,354 --> 00:11:00,877 - [Reporter] Why did you suss out companies 192 00:11:00,964 --> 00:11:02,139 in the Channel Islands? 193 00:11:03,924 --> 00:11:06,317 - The problem was that I didn't know any other way. 194 00:11:06,404 --> 00:11:08,363 Well, they taught us geography at school. 195 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:09,364 I was sick that day. 196 00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:14,108 - The Russian mafia is an adjunct of the Russian government. 197 00:11:14,195 --> 00:11:16,153 - I've described it as going from organized crime 198 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,591 under the Soviets to disorganized crime 199 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,291 under Yeltsin to organized crime again under Putin. 200 00:11:23,378 --> 00:11:27,382 - His networks recycle back to Mr. Putin's inner circle 201 00:11:27,469 --> 00:11:31,734 and they continue to help maintain Mr. Putin's power. 202 00:11:31,821 --> 00:11:35,172 - To the point where today Putin may well be 203 00:11:35,259 --> 00:11:37,348 the wealthiest man on the face of the planet. 204 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:47,924 - Yeah. [laughs] 205 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:48,751 Yeah. 206 00:11:50,622 --> 00:11:52,450 Everything I know that's interesting I can't tell you. 207 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:57,412 Now let me try to think of a way to go at 30,000 feet. 208 00:12:03,505 --> 00:12:05,420 Yeah, I know where you're going with this 209 00:12:05,507 --> 00:12:08,031 'cause I know we're gonna talk about Trump in a few minutes. 210 00:12:08,118 --> 00:12:11,469 [upbeat electro music] 211 00:12:21,784 --> 00:12:24,831 - In the 70's Donald Trump is a scion 212 00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:28,225 of one of the biggest landowners along the east coast. 213 00:12:34,188 --> 00:12:35,319 - He played monopoly. 214 00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:37,104 Yes, indeed. 215 00:12:37,191 --> 00:12:40,498 More than monopoly, he played with building blocks. 216 00:12:40,585 --> 00:12:42,892 Always with building blocks. 217 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:46,417 - He has huge ambitions, huge ego as we know. 218 00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:49,507 - Because not everybody is meant to be a business person. 219 00:12:49,594 --> 00:12:50,682 They'll ruin their lives. 220 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,641 I mean they'll go and they'll, 221 00:12:52,728 --> 00:12:54,425 they'll put up their house and they'll mortgage their cars 222 00:12:54,512 --> 00:12:56,036 and everything else they own. 223 00:12:56,123 --> 00:12:58,778 - And he is starting to move into Manhattan. 224 00:13:00,954 --> 00:13:04,000 - Trump Tower was structured in a way 225 00:13:04,087 --> 00:13:07,525 that made it a money laundering paradox. 226 00:13:07,612 --> 00:13:10,441 - [Nina] Trump Tower became one of the first buildings 227 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:15,533 in New York where Shell companies could buy and sell condos 228 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:19,102 without identifying yourself. 229 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:24,629 - If you go back to the 80's, Senator Henry Scoop Jackson 230 00:13:24,716 --> 00:13:27,415 got a bill through Congress allowing the immigration 231 00:13:27,502 --> 00:13:29,634 of Soviet Jews into the United States 232 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:32,507 at a time when immigration had been highly restrictive. 233 00:13:32,594 --> 00:13:34,814 - We'll honor the right of a person 234 00:13:34,901 --> 00:13:36,641 to leave a country freely 235 00:13:36,728 --> 00:13:39,427 and return freely just as clear as anything can be. 236 00:13:39,514 --> 00:13:41,385 - [Craig] The Russians saw it as an opportunity 237 00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:43,605 to open their jails. 238 00:13:43,692 --> 00:13:47,174 That's when you see members of Russian organized crime 239 00:13:47,261 --> 00:13:49,916 come to the United States for the very, very first time 240 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:51,613 and end up in Brighton Beach. 241 00:13:54,398 --> 00:13:56,531 - There were certain techniques 242 00:13:56,618 --> 00:13:58,968 for money management and money movement 243 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:01,492 that were prized above others. 244 00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:06,062 And these involved real estate. 245 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:09,500 - It started off simply as money laundering pure and simple 246 00:14:09,587 --> 00:14:12,939 and you had in 1984 for example David Bogatin, 247 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,985 who was a Russian mobster, met with Trump. 248 00:14:16,072 --> 00:14:19,206 Trump Tower had just opened the previous year and Bogatin, 249 00:14:19,293 --> 00:14:21,991 who had no legal way of making that money, 250 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:24,602 sat down with Trump and bought five condos 251 00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:25,734 and the state attorney general ruled 252 00:14:25,821 --> 00:14:27,344 that that was money laundering. 253 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,566 Vyacheslav Ivankov, who was very close 254 00:14:31,653 --> 00:14:35,135 to the great mastermind of organized crime, 255 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:38,616 Semion Mogilevich, and he was sent to the United States 256 00:14:38,703 --> 00:14:41,619 to oversee the rise of the Brighton Beach mafia. 257 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:44,405 And when the feds were looking for him they looked all over 258 00:14:44,492 --> 00:14:45,972 and they couldn't find him anywhere in Brooklyn. 259 00:14:46,059 --> 00:14:47,930 Instead, he was living in Trump Tower. 260 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:54,589 - Donald Trump marries Ivana. 261 00:14:54,676 --> 00:14:59,072 The Czech Secret Police takes note of this. 262 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:02,075 The intelligence that they gathered was that Donald Trump 263 00:15:02,162 --> 00:15:05,165 was being pressured, not clear by whom, 264 00:15:05,252 --> 00:15:08,820 to run for president as early as 1988. 265 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:11,693 They thought that it would be good for Czechoslovakia 266 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:15,262 if this husband of a Czech citizen became president 267 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:16,437 of the United States. 268 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,354 After his successes in New York City 269 00:15:20,441 --> 00:15:23,923 he got into the Atlantic city casino business. 270 00:15:27,970 --> 00:15:30,146 He goes big. 271 00:15:30,233 --> 00:15:32,018 Builds the Trump Taj Majal. 272 00:15:32,105 --> 00:15:34,368 - Which will be the largest hotel casino in the world 273 00:15:34,455 --> 00:15:36,587 and I think it's gonna be a tremendous success. 274 00:15:36,674 --> 00:15:40,765 - That turns out to be his undoing. 275 00:15:42,637 --> 00:15:45,074 - In a town where for the last 10 years 276 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:47,859 no casino with 60,000 squared foot 277 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:49,774 has ever been fully utilized. 278 00:15:49,861 --> 00:15:53,691 On what basis would someone build one with 120,000 feet? 279 00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:56,477 He was destined to fail. 280 00:16:00,046 --> 00:16:02,222 - Trump Casino was hit hard for having 281 00:16:02,309 --> 00:16:06,182 violated U.S. federal anti-money laundering regulations. 282 00:16:07,662 --> 00:16:10,621 It suggests a culture of willful disregard of the law. 283 00:16:11,753 --> 00:16:14,538 - [Nina] He basically unravels financially. 284 00:16:14,625 --> 00:16:17,367 He also was unraveling personally at this same time. 285 00:16:17,454 --> 00:16:18,890 His marriage was falling apart. 286 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,676 - [Jonathan] By that point he had filed, 287 00:16:21,763 --> 00:16:23,591 I believe it was six bankruptcies. 288 00:16:23,678 --> 00:16:25,767 He had no way to move forward professionally. 289 00:16:25,854 --> 00:16:27,638 He couldn't get a bank loan anywhere. 290 00:16:27,725 --> 00:16:29,684 - There is a homeless person sitting, 291 00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:33,079 sitting right outside of Trump Tower. 292 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:36,560 I remember my father pointing to him and saying, you know, 293 00:16:36,647 --> 00:16:38,736 that guy has eight billion dollars more than me 294 00:16:38,823 --> 00:16:41,826 because he was in such extreme debt at that point, you know. 295 00:16:43,872 --> 00:16:47,658 - The Russians have a particular type of mark 296 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:48,746 whom they go after. 297 00:16:50,531 --> 00:16:52,924 They go after somebody who has business resources, 298 00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:57,451 perhaps some shady morals so that they're amenable 299 00:16:57,538 --> 00:16:58,974 to the bribery. 300 00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:03,500 Or perhaps are in a difficult financial situation. 301 00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:07,113 And either has political connections or aspirations. 302 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,985 I've just described Donald Trump. 303 00:17:10,072 --> 00:17:14,163 He was the perfect mark for the Russians. 304 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:17,123 - The Russians saved him. 305 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:19,038 They rescued him. 306 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,692 He would not have gotten back in business without them. 307 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:24,217 I think it's safe to say he couldn't have run for president 308 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:25,696 if he had just been a guy 309 00:17:25,783 --> 00:17:27,263 who was four billion dollars in debt. 310 00:17:29,961 --> 00:17:32,790 When the Russian mafia does something 311 00:17:32,877 --> 00:17:36,707 it's with Putin's permission and it's serving his interests. 312 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,796 - Have you ever knowingly done business 313 00:17:38,883 --> 00:17:41,712 with what I like to call organized crime? 314 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:43,671 [audience laughing] 315 00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:45,325 Have they ever stopped by and-- 316 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:47,196 - Well, I really tried to stay away from them 317 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:48,850 as much as possible. - Right. 318 00:17:48,937 --> 00:17:50,547 - Although I must say I have met on occasion 319 00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:52,027 a few of those people. 320 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:54,769 They happen to be very nice people. 321 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,292 You just don't want to owe them money. 322 00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,773 - Yeah, I understand. - Don't owe them money. 323 00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:04,866 - Simeon Mogelivich, he made a decision to make the move 324 00:18:04,953 --> 00:18:09,479 on Trump after studying Trump's 2004 bankruptcy filings. 325 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,139 Noticing that Trump had lost his credit lines. 326 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:20,751 They felt he would not be in the position to say no. 327 00:18:20,838 --> 00:18:24,320 - The Russian real estate firm Bayrock 328 00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:26,801 started leasing space in Trump Tower. 329 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:30,892 Putin needs to keep track of his oligarchs 330 00:18:30,979 --> 00:18:35,157 and one way of keeping tabs is knowing where their money is. 331 00:18:35,244 --> 00:18:37,638 Bayrock may well have been a way of doing that. 332 00:18:38,943 --> 00:18:42,033 To me that's a turning point because what we have here 333 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:45,428 is a very serious intelligence operation 334 00:18:45,515 --> 00:18:47,691 and it is in the belly of the beast. 335 00:18:47,778 --> 00:18:49,345 It is in the home of the man 336 00:18:49,432 --> 00:18:51,652 who becomes president of the United States. 337 00:18:51,739 --> 00:18:54,350 And it was operating there for many, many years. 338 00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:57,658 - One of the key people putting it together, Felix Sater. 339 00:18:57,745 --> 00:19:00,400 - A lieutenant in the Mogilevich crime family. 340 00:19:00,487 --> 00:19:04,143 Very connected into the nexus 341 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:06,841 between the Russian criminal organizations 342 00:19:06,928 --> 00:19:10,932 and the Russian national security organizations. 343 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:14,501 - He became managing director of Bayrock. 344 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,807 He himself had been convicted of two felonies. 345 00:19:16,894 --> 00:19:20,071 - Slashing a guy's face at a bar. 346 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,336 - Another was a pump and dump stock scheme. 347 00:19:23,423 --> 00:19:26,252 But he ended up cooperating with the feds 348 00:19:26,339 --> 00:19:29,037 and he started providing information 349 00:19:29,124 --> 00:19:32,475 on sales of weapons to Al-Qaeda. 350 00:19:32,562 --> 00:19:34,738 Mogilevich, according to FBI reports, 351 00:19:34,825 --> 00:19:36,436 was selling weapons to Al-Qaeda. 352 00:19:37,872 --> 00:19:40,004 That raised very interesting questions 353 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:43,094 'cause I don't think Felix Sater would betray Mogilevich. 354 00:19:44,661 --> 00:19:46,968 He famously threatened an investor 355 00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:49,144 with electrocuting his testicles. 356 00:19:51,364 --> 00:19:54,018 Trump worked with Sater for many, many years 357 00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:56,543 after it was revealed that he was a criminal. 358 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,849 He continued to work for Trump and in fact 359 00:19:58,936 --> 00:20:01,983 had a business card saying that he was a senior advisor 360 00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:03,767 to the Trump organization. 361 00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:05,291 - [Michael] There's multiple photographs 362 00:20:05,378 --> 00:20:06,596 of the two of them together. 363 00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:09,120 He had an office in Trump tower. 364 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:11,949 Trump was the public face of Bayrock. 365 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:15,823 - And yet when he was placed under oath in a deposition 366 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:19,174 and confronted about Sater, he simply says, uh. 367 00:20:19,261 --> 00:20:20,958 - If he was sitting in a the room right now, 368 00:20:21,045 --> 00:20:23,657 I really wouldn't know what he looked like. 369 00:20:25,441 --> 00:20:27,704 - [Craig] Trump actually personally asks Sater 370 00:20:27,791 --> 00:20:32,318 to escort his two children, Ivanka and Donald Trump, Jr., 371 00:20:32,405 --> 00:20:35,451 on a trip to Moscow and showed them around the town. 372 00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:40,239 - He seems to be playing a consistent role 373 00:20:40,326 --> 00:20:43,894 in assisting the Trump's and tapping Russians 374 00:20:43,981 --> 00:20:46,723 or let's say post-Soviet money 375 00:20:46,810 --> 00:20:49,248 for developing condominium units. 376 00:20:49,335 --> 00:20:52,294 No co-op board has to review whoever is buying. 377 00:20:52,381 --> 00:20:54,470 It's safer than putting it in the bank. 378 00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:57,865 [upbeat electro music] 379 00:20:59,127 --> 00:21:00,911 - The Sunny Isles development is the Florida development 380 00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:04,045 that the Trumps own that has been heavily populated 381 00:21:04,132 --> 00:21:07,788 by Russians who want to launder their money. 382 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:10,094 - [Craig] At least a third of the condos 383 00:21:10,181 --> 00:21:13,141 in Sunny isles, Florida have been sold to Russia. 384 00:21:17,406 --> 00:21:20,583 - Trump's Soho is one of the promoters of the project. 385 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:23,064 Alexsandr Mashkevich has been described 386 00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,022 as Mogelivich's banker. 387 00:21:27,851 --> 00:21:31,072 The Trump Tower project in Baku is located 388 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:35,642 in the middle of a post-industrial sledge pool. 389 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:38,340 It's just sort of a joke that they were building this. 390 00:21:41,778 --> 00:21:43,171 - Trump World Tower. 391 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:45,042 I started looking at who bought into 392 00:21:45,129 --> 00:21:47,262 and the very first name I came across that was Russian 393 00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:48,872 was that of Eduard Nektalov. 394 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:51,571 He had been indicted for money laundering. 395 00:21:51,658 --> 00:21:53,703 He turned state's evidence and was going 396 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:55,749 to cooperate with the feds. 397 00:21:55,836 --> 00:21:57,533 He was murdered the next day. 398 00:22:00,014 --> 00:22:01,711 - The Toronto Tower. 399 00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,018 The source of funding was the Vensheconobank, 400 00:22:06,063 --> 00:22:10,894 the two twin cash management tools of the Kremlin. 401 00:22:13,288 --> 00:22:16,117 They go out and become involved in projects 402 00:22:16,204 --> 00:22:19,555 usually because one man, Vladimir Putin, 403 00:22:19,642 --> 00:22:21,514 tells them to do so. 404 00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,908 That would link this project straight back to the Kremlin. 405 00:22:27,476 --> 00:22:29,260 - I think this is the tip of the iceberg. 406 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:33,352 There's been 1.3 trillion dollars in flight capital 407 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,223 since Putin's become president. 408 00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:39,488 There are over 30 Trump Towers all over the world. 409 00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:42,099 That means there are several thousand units. 410 00:22:42,186 --> 00:22:45,276 So many condos that journalists like me have been unable 411 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:48,279 to investigate because they are in Shell companies. 412 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:51,152 - Shell corporations where law enforcement 413 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:53,067 and the public and the press can go and see 414 00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:54,634 what the name of the corporation is 415 00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:57,071 but they can't find out who's really behind it. 416 00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:58,202 What's really going on. 417 00:22:58,289 --> 00:22:59,943 Who's pulling the strings here. 418 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,858 - So a 500 million dollar condo can change hands 419 00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:03,382 three or four times a year 420 00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:05,340 and you've laundered 20 million dollars or so. 421 00:23:07,037 --> 00:23:08,604 We want to follow the money. 422 00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:11,085 It's clear to me that a huge amount of it 423 00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:15,002 comes from the Ukraine Russian energy trade. 424 00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:17,004 - Vladimir Putin particularly 425 00:23:17,091 --> 00:23:19,746 has a strong feeling about Ukraine. 426 00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:23,576 Ukraine was part of Russia for many, many years. 427 00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:26,405 He feels that needs to be restored. 428 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,018 - Putin has worked to undermine 429 00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:33,237 democracies across the globe. 430 00:23:34,587 --> 00:23:37,503 - [Woman] You had a couple of people running for president. 431 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:40,941 - Viktor Yanukovich who appeared to be 432 00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:43,944 more interested in keeping Ukraine aligned with Russia. 433 00:23:44,031 --> 00:23:46,381 Significant amounts of money coming from Russia 434 00:23:46,468 --> 00:23:48,775 into the Yanukovich campaign. 435 00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:52,474 - His competitor on the other side, Yuschenko, 436 00:23:52,561 --> 00:23:55,085 was a Ukrainian politician. 437 00:23:55,172 --> 00:23:59,873 A reputation of being clean and fair and pro-western. 438 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:04,051 Yulia Tymoshenko entered the Yushenko campaign. 439 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:05,792 She was a politician. 440 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,620 - Tymoshenko, in my experience, 441 00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:09,883 she was by the far the most effective minister 442 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,667 in the Ukrainian cabinet. 443 00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:14,453 - Well, I was working for Senator McCain in 2004. 444 00:24:14,540 --> 00:24:15,584 And we visited. 445 00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:17,978 We met with Yuschenko. 446 00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:21,024 They just said, I'm afraid they're gonna try to kill him. 447 00:24:21,111 --> 00:24:22,635 Within a matter of months 448 00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:24,550 he had been poisoned and almost was killed. 449 00:24:25,638 --> 00:24:27,422 - A disfiguring poisoning. 450 00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:29,076 It destroyed his looks. 451 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,252 Scarred his face. 452 00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:35,561 - Quite convinced it was a KGB operation. 453 00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:38,738 - He was off the campaign trail for about four weeks. 454 00:24:38,825 --> 00:24:40,522 It also had a second effect, too, 455 00:24:40,609 --> 00:24:42,785 was it really hardened his resolve. 456 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:03,153 - And not in the Soviet Union republic. 457 00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:06,722 - [Steven] During the election there was lots of evidence 458 00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:09,203 that something had gone wrong. 459 00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:15,252 - At that time Ukrainian intelligence agencies 460 00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:17,820 detected that there were hackers who actually tried 461 00:25:17,907 --> 00:25:20,649 to break into the central election commission. 462 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:24,174 So they were trying to change the results of the votes. 463 00:25:24,261 --> 00:25:26,742 - And those parts that had voted for Yanukovich 464 00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:29,092 turned out in excess of 100% was reported. 465 00:25:29,179 --> 00:25:30,529 - [Reporter] The country's election commission 466 00:25:30,616 --> 00:25:32,400 ignored reports of fraud 467 00:25:32,487 --> 00:25:36,056 declaring Kremlin-backed victory Yanukovich the winner. 468 00:25:37,318 --> 00:25:41,888 - The election was, in the eyes of most Ukrainians, stolen. 469 00:25:48,895 --> 00:25:50,940 The Ukrainians had enough. 470 00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:54,117 And the Orange Revolution consisted of people coming out 471 00:25:54,204 --> 00:25:55,902 to the central Kiev square 472 00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:59,688 and saying, no, we're not going to accept a bad election. 473 00:26:08,262 --> 00:26:12,614 - The Ukrainian Supreme Court basically ruled a do over. 474 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:29,326 - Russia opposed that idea because they understood correctly 475 00:26:29,413 --> 00:26:31,198 that if it was done in a free and fair way 476 00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:33,504 that Mr. Yanukovich would not win. 477 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,683 - [Daniel] And Yuschenko became president. 478 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:40,424 - [Steven] His prime minister was Yulia Tymoshenko. 479 00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:44,690 - So this week has a unique feel to it 480 00:26:44,777 --> 00:26:46,909 as we all have the profound privilege 481 00:26:46,996 --> 00:26:49,825 of welcoming president Viktor Yuschenko to-- 482 00:26:49,912 --> 00:26:53,133 [audience applauding] 483 00:26:56,571 --> 00:26:58,965 - Protection from the regime of mobsters 484 00:26:59,052 --> 00:27:01,010 is only a matter that can cause hope. 485 00:27:01,968 --> 00:27:03,709 We faced a very similar choice. 486 00:27:03,796 --> 00:27:06,537 It was not a choice between the left and the right. 487 00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:10,629 It was the choice between totalitarian regime and democracy. 488 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,022 It has betrayed the future at best. 489 00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:16,330 - [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich predicted more turmoil ahead. 490 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,158 I am ready to lead, he said. 491 00:27:18,245 --> 00:27:20,813 Yuschenko will find out what opposition really means. 492 00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:25,426 - Mr. Manafort came to Ukraine late 2004. 493 00:27:25,513 --> 00:27:28,211 Yanukovich had been fairly badly discredited. 494 00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,918 The role that I saw for Mr. Manafort 495 00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:42,269 was somebody tried to rehabilitate Mr. Yanukovich. 496 00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:46,403 - Paul Manafort has been a Washington political consultant 497 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:48,144 for a long, long time. 498 00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:51,234 - [Reporter] Paul Manafort, a top campaign strategist 499 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:52,453 for President Bush. 500 00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,461 - [Woman] Bob Dole was the last one who brought him on 501 00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:02,593 as the head of the convention at that point. 502 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,465 - We are ready, not only to continue to lead 503 00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:06,467 in the Congress but to take the White House. 504 00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:07,642 - He had disappeared. 505 00:28:07,729 --> 00:28:09,122 No one knew what he was doing. 506 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:17,304 - [Greg] It's impossible that Paul Manafort was not 507 00:28:17,391 --> 00:28:20,307 at least run past the Russian government 508 00:28:20,394 --> 00:28:23,397 because Manafort was very close to Yanukovich. 509 00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:26,052 And Yanukovich was so close to the Kremlin. 510 00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:31,840 - The big switch from western, the western point of view 511 00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:34,800 was the Munich security conference speech. 512 00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:39,500 - The United States has overstepped its national borders 513 00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:41,067 in every way. 514 00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:44,026 Of course such a policy stimulates an arms race. 515 00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:45,898 No one feels safe. 516 00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:48,378 - Senator Joe Lieberman and I were sitting 517 00:28:48,465 --> 00:28:51,120 in assigned seats in the front row. 518 00:28:51,207 --> 00:28:53,819 And he would utter a phrase in Russian 519 00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:57,474 and after he would say, he'd look over at the two of us 520 00:28:57,561 --> 00:29:00,695 like that, you know, I said what is it with this guy? 521 00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:03,437 - I very often. 522 00:29:03,524 --> 00:29:04,873 He repeals by our partners. 523 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,527 The effect that Russia should play 524 00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:09,182 an increasingly active role in world affairs. 525 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,793 - That was 2007. 526 00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:15,318 Two months later they did the cyber-attack 527 00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:20,410 on my country because we really didn't want a Soviet statue 528 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,152 in the middle of town. 529 00:29:24,588 --> 00:29:25,938 We didn't tear it down. 530 00:29:26,025 --> 00:29:27,766 We moved it. 531 00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:30,812 We figured, okay, this is important for some people. 532 00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:35,164 But even that was sort of enough of an offense. 533 00:29:35,251 --> 00:29:37,471 [yelling] 534 00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:43,042 The 9th of May with the day the Russians celebrate 535 00:29:43,129 --> 00:29:46,872 the end of World War II no one could get into any websites 536 00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:51,311 including the banks, any government sites, news media. 537 00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:53,879 I mean, it's clear they did it. 538 00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:56,055 A year later they invaded Georgia. 539 00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:00,581 - After the collapse of the Soviet Union, 540 00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:04,237 Georgia was controlled by mafias and criminal gangs 541 00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,021 that were known as thieves-in-law. 542 00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:10,939 - Then came the revolution and Misha Saakashvili 543 00:30:11,026 --> 00:30:12,680 became their president. 544 00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:19,208 And made, really, very significant changes 545 00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:21,428 and improvement to the country. 546 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,430 - After years of the Georgian economy 547 00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:25,998 being a basket case suddenly starts to roar. 548 00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:29,305 He had a vision of Georgia in NATO and the EU. 549 00:30:29,392 --> 00:30:30,524 The Russians hated it. 550 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,528 - As long as you have these blocs, 551 00:30:34,615 --> 00:30:36,704 NATO and the European Union, 552 00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:40,229 they're bigger, richer, stronger, more powerful than Russia. 553 00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:46,409 But if you reduce them to their individual parts 554 00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:49,108 each of these countries is far weaker than Russia. 555 00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:53,895 - They kept provoking the Georgians more and more 556 00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:55,505 and more and more. 557 00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:57,116 They wanted a war. 558 00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:00,554 - They started to say the war. 559 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:04,079 At first he started to tell it to me. 560 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,602 To some western leaders. 561 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:11,434 Looked like the west was the wandering life, 562 00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:14,307 wanted somewhere and Russians knew where they were going. 563 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,833 Then we had direct military attacks. 564 00:31:20,356 --> 00:31:24,230 - In the middle of the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, 565 00:31:24,317 --> 00:31:25,796 the Russians invaded Georgia. 566 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:31,890 [man yelling] 567 00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:35,154 [tanks rapidly firing] 568 00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,677 - Wake up, wake up. 569 00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:38,853 We are attacked because we wanted to be free. 570 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:40,289 We are attacked because we wanted 571 00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:41,682 to build genuine democracy. 572 00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:43,858 If Americans and Europeans don't stand up 573 00:31:43,945 --> 00:31:46,513 for their own values, for their own principles, 574 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,689 then those principles and values will be in danger 575 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:50,996 to the Georgia, tomorrow elsewhere. 576 00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:52,998 - But the Russians then spent a lot of time 577 00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:55,870 convincing everyone the Georgians started the war. 578 00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:57,219 It's Saakashvili's fault. 579 00:31:57,306 --> 00:31:59,613 He was dangerous and a madman. 580 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,702 - Russia has criticized the western media 581 00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:04,705 for what it's called it's biosphere on the conflict. 582 00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:06,794 Not all journalists blame Russia for the conflict. 583 00:32:06,881 --> 00:32:08,622 Alex Jones? 584 00:32:08,709 --> 00:32:10,406 - [Alex] I just hope Russia keeps troops in Georgia 585 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:12,278 because the dictator, 586 00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:14,628 and we know he was elected under fraud there in Georgia 587 00:32:14,715 --> 00:32:16,847 has said that he plans, he said it last week, 588 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,588 to attack again. 589 00:32:18,675 --> 00:32:21,635 - Allegation that Georgia would attack Russia 590 00:32:21,722 --> 00:32:25,987 is so foolish and outrageous and disgraceful. 591 00:32:26,074 --> 00:32:28,120 But it's typical of Vladimir Putin. 592 00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:31,471 - They did not achieve the collapse 593 00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:33,125 of the Saakashvili government. 594 00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,127 It cost them a lot in respect, 595 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,216 in international relationships. 596 00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:39,131 And their military was really exposed 597 00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:41,350 as something weaker than they all thought. 598 00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:44,919 So there was this whole portfolio of kind of rethinking 599 00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:47,835 what are the political warfare tools 600 00:32:47,922 --> 00:32:49,968 that we have that we can use. 601 00:32:51,578 --> 00:32:54,363 - They began to increase their funding to far right 602 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:58,280 nationalistic white supremacists political parties. 603 00:32:58,367 --> 00:33:01,892 - In democracies, public opinion is your battlefield. 604 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:04,069 It's finding those affinity groups. 605 00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:05,679 They don't like globalization. 606 00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,768 They're very fearful of immigration. 607 00:33:07,855 --> 00:33:08,856 They're xenophobic. 608 00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:11,032 And that fear is then used 609 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,730 by Russian disinformation operations to say 610 00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:16,559 you're not being protected from migration crisis, 611 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:20,302 from the social changes that we see around you. 612 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:24,698 Gazprom and others, they were purchasing local affiliates 613 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:27,570 so it looked like less Russian, had less of a Russian face. 614 00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:31,618 - Gazprom is the world's largest gas company. 615 00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:36,188 It and its resources are used to help achieve 616 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,842 the political objectives of the Russian state. 617 00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:41,715 - When the economics and the politics combine 618 00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:44,326 in fact the, it's state capture. 619 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:48,461 The national government cannot take independent action 620 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:53,553 that does not follow Russia's policy interests. 621 00:33:54,815 --> 00:33:56,469 - It's far better to expend your energy 622 00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:59,863 on getting a Russia friendly government elected 623 00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:01,909 than it is to have to build up your military 624 00:34:01,996 --> 00:34:03,519 to invade the country. 625 00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,610 - There was the Russian oligarchy, Ivanishvili, 626 00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,570 who was biggest private shareholder of Russia Gazprom. 627 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,791 Suddenly Ivanishvili announced that he was entering politics 628 00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:16,445 and he will run against us. 629 00:34:16,532 --> 00:34:18,186 - They wanted to believe 630 00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:21,363 that he was this independent weirdo businessman. 631 00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,278 He must be a very successful man. 632 00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,846 Nobody wanted to believe he was what he is, 633 00:34:25,933 --> 00:34:29,980 a front for Russian engagement in the country. 634 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,635 The campaign in Georgia before the 2012 election 635 00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:35,856 had been increasingly dirty and hostile and violent. 636 00:34:35,943 --> 00:34:38,467 - So the narrative was that no matter 637 00:34:38,554 --> 00:34:41,166 what you will falsify, rig the elections. 638 00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,646 And then they would take it to the streets. 639 00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:44,865 - There was a lot of discussion 640 00:34:44,952 --> 00:34:46,475 about political prosecution. 641 00:34:46,562 --> 00:34:48,086 If they won they would have put 642 00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:50,175 the entire former government in prison, 643 00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:51,611 that these were all criminal. 644 00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:53,091 Some of it was really cheap stuff. 645 00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:54,875 Saakashvili is really an Armenian. 646 00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:56,659 He's not really a Georgian. 647 00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:00,750 - That's a technique the Russians use quite a bit. 648 00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,230 The best way to discredit somebody 649 00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:04,363 is to make them appear inauthentic. 650 00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:07,061 They're not part of the community which they say they are. 651 00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:08,758 - Then it's picked up by other media. 652 00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:10,804 It's sort of spread about social media. 653 00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,460 Eventually people sort of say some of this must be true. 654 00:35:16,853 --> 00:35:19,204 - Mafia bosses, [speaking in foreign language] from Russia 655 00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:22,076 try to help to organize mass disturbances. 656 00:35:24,774 --> 00:35:26,472 They listened to our telephone conversations, 657 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,735 especially when we were calling from abroad. 658 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:33,305 For whatever similar situation would ignite in Georgia 659 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,743 they always had intercepts for all kind of situations. 660 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,919 - No party in Georgia could have been 661 00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:40,834 in a real popular way for Russian. 662 00:35:40,921 --> 00:35:42,314 And Ivanishvili knew that. 663 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:43,837 So you had a new message on Russia. 664 00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:45,665 It was wouldn't it be nice 665 00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:48,015 if we had a better relationship with Russia? 666 00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:56,980 - About two weeks before the vote, 667 00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:58,721 there was the release of the first 668 00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:01,855 of what became known as the prison abuse tapes. 669 00:36:01,942 --> 00:36:03,900 - The images looked very bad. 670 00:36:03,987 --> 00:36:06,425 After initial shock, people started to look at the image. 671 00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:10,342 In details they explain to us that the whole thing was fake. 672 00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:13,040 Later we discovered that this thing was done by guys 673 00:36:13,127 --> 00:36:16,348 with very well-known Russian intelligence connections. 674 00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:17,958 But it was too late. 675 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:19,916 - [Reporter] On Tuesday President Saakashvili 676 00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:23,572 conceded he lost the closely fought parliamentary vote. 677 00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:26,836 - 65 or so former officials have been arrested, 678 00:36:26,923 --> 00:36:28,316 detained, or convicted. 679 00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:32,059 Saakashvili will be arrested if he goes back to Georgia. 680 00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:42,896 - And then you saw the allowing of Russian money 681 00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:44,811 back into Georgia's full society. 682 00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:47,901 - We are returning Georgia product to the Russian market. 683 00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:49,381 - His wealth and his fortune 684 00:36:49,468 --> 00:36:51,905 are all connected to the Kremlin. 685 00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:55,213 That means he can never be independent of what they want. 686 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,911 - Putin had told the National Security Council 687 00:36:57,998 --> 00:36:59,826 that Georgian elections were the most successful 688 00:36:59,913 --> 00:37:02,089 special operation they ever had. 689 00:37:05,005 --> 00:37:06,789 They learned that any democratic system 690 00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:10,315 is essentially very vulnerable to this kind of meddling. 691 00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:12,839 Full corruption, information campaigns, 692 00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,797 character destructions, 693 00:37:14,884 --> 00:37:17,844 and then your adversary's much more vulnerable. 694 00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:20,586 Then it's nothing about their economy size or military size. 695 00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:22,109 It's about their state of mind. 696 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:29,551 - In Ukraine Putin did the same thing. 697 00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:34,208 - Ukraine is about 100% dependent on Russia for natural gas. 698 00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,993 - Instead of there being direct sales from Gazprom 699 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,519 there were a whole series of intermediary companies 700 00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:44,000 which seemed to be controlled by a man named Dmitry Firtash. 701 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,703 Dmitry Firtash, a Pro-Putin oligarch. 702 00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:55,708 He had worked with Mogilevich, the crime boss. 703 00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:59,015 They siphon off lots of money from this Gazprom. 704 00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:00,843 Billions of dollars. 705 00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:03,759 - [Michael] Firtash was very close to Vladimir Putin. 706 00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:08,242 Paul Manafort was a business partner of Firtash. 707 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,809 - Ukrainian politicians. 708 00:38:09,896 --> 00:38:12,420 It was all just whisper the name Paul Manafort. 709 00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:16,555 He was the dark prince in the background, 710 00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,644 orchestrating everything. 711 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:24,214 He was viewed as a man who was the connection 712 00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:27,957 between the Kremlin and pro-Russian party in Ukraine 713 00:38:28,044 --> 00:38:31,396 to advance Russian political interests. 714 00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:37,010 - Russia was buying up utilities. 715 00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:39,665 The oligarchs were doing Putin's bidding. 716 00:38:39,752 --> 00:38:42,145 It cut off Ukraine's energy supply. 717 00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:47,194 - It's really a terrible thing 718 00:38:47,281 --> 00:38:49,152 if someone is killed by a bullet 719 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,720 but isn't it terrible if you shut down 720 00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:53,069 the power in the winter? 721 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:56,856 - In 2009, after about two weeks 722 00:38:56,943 --> 00:38:58,292 meeting with President Putin, 723 00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:01,208 Prime Minster Tymoshenko negotiated a deal 724 00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,602 that ended the gas cutoff. 725 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:06,692 - [Reporter] The presidential elections 726 00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:09,085 head for a pulsating climax. 727 00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:11,044 In the orange corner 728 00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:14,047 the current poor western prime minister, Yulia Tymoshenko. 729 00:39:15,048 --> 00:39:16,702 In the blue corner, 730 00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:19,487 pro-Moscow opposition leader Viktor Yanukovich. 731 00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:21,184 - [Reporter] Manafort was remaking 732 00:39:21,271 --> 00:39:23,752 Yanukovych's overall appearance and personality 733 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,102 as a politician to make him more palatable. 734 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:31,325 - [Reporter] When he said no to a TV debate, 735 00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,372 she went ahead with it anyway facing an empty podium. 736 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,088 - [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich claimed victory 737 00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:57,525 in the Ukraine presidential election. 738 00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,576 - Once Viktor Yanukovich had become president 739 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,142 one of the things they were trying 740 00:40:06,229 --> 00:40:08,710 to go after Tymoshenko for was, in fact, 741 00:40:08,797 --> 00:40:10,799 that gas arrangement she had done. 742 00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,018 - [Reporter] She compared the case 743 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,237 to a Stalinist show trial. 744 00:40:14,324 --> 00:40:16,501 - [Reporter] All this was staged in advance 745 00:40:16,588 --> 00:40:18,328 of the president's administration 746 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,156 to eliminate the opposition. 747 00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:23,377 - It may have been a bad deal but it certainly wasn't 748 00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:26,249 the criminal action that the Ukrainian government 749 00:40:26,336 --> 00:40:28,295 under Yanukovich charged her with. 750 00:40:35,215 --> 00:40:36,999 - [Reporter] A seven year prison term and an order 751 00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:40,220 that she pay 200 million dollars in compensation. 752 00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:56,541 - [Reporter] From prison, Tymoshenko staged 753 00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:58,107 a temporary hunger strike 754 00:40:58,194 --> 00:40:59,935 saying she'd been beaten by guards 755 00:41:00,022 --> 00:41:01,937 and needed immediate medical attention. 756 00:41:10,555 --> 00:41:12,034 - In a lawsuit that was filed 757 00:41:12,121 --> 00:41:14,123 by the former prime minister of Ukraine, 758 00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:18,171 there were some rather striking court documents 759 00:41:20,042 --> 00:41:22,784 referring to Manafort's role, 760 00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:27,528 and including his business relationships, 761 00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:32,577 real estate deals with a Russian oligarch, Dmitry Firtash. 762 00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:36,015 Paul Manafort was in business 763 00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:41,107 with not one but two Russian oligarchs. 764 00:41:42,151 --> 00:41:45,067 Dmitry Firtash, who was under indictment 765 00:41:45,154 --> 00:41:46,721 by the U.S. Justice Department. 766 00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:55,382 Another, Deripaska, who had been denied entry 767 00:41:55,469 --> 00:41:56,992 into the United States 768 00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,168 because of suspected organized crime ties. 769 00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:04,173 - Paul Manafort signed a contract with Oleg Derispaska 770 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,437 to promote the Kremlin and the Kremlin's interests. 771 00:42:10,136 --> 00:42:14,749 Quoting Deripaska, Putin told him Manafort's our man. 772 00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:24,890 - Paul Manafort got his home in Trump Towers in 2006. 773 00:42:27,283 --> 00:42:30,983 You can easily see billions of dollars being siphoned off 774 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,942 from that Ukraine Russian energy trade 775 00:42:34,029 --> 00:42:37,555 and going through Firtash to Paul Manafort 776 00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:40,688 and to Russians or Ukrainians who were buying condos 777 00:42:40,775 --> 00:42:42,516 in Trump-branded properties. 778 00:42:48,609 --> 00:42:51,003 - Russia has three main tactics for engaging 779 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:52,787 in what we call active measures. 780 00:42:52,874 --> 00:42:55,181 Propaganda, cyber-attacks. 781 00:42:55,268 --> 00:42:57,139 Most people don't focus on a third pillar 782 00:42:57,226 --> 00:43:00,316 of Russian active measures which is to recruit and enlist 783 00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:03,581 and in some cases run agents of influence. 784 00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:09,761 - The Russians, with their 785 00:43:09,848 --> 00:43:12,372 full-time intelligence operatives. 786 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:16,855 There's probably way over 1,000 of those 787 00:43:16,942 --> 00:43:18,596 in the United States. 788 00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:20,728 - The FBI does its best to try 789 00:43:20,815 --> 00:43:23,688 to monitor Russian intelligence officers 790 00:43:23,775 --> 00:43:26,865 here in the United States but there are so many of them 791 00:43:26,952 --> 00:43:30,346 and frankly the FBI's resources are so limited. 792 00:43:30,433 --> 00:43:35,438 - When I did cases I actually had to decide on which days 793 00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:40,792 I wanted the FBI surveillance group to watch my target. 794 00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:45,448 - We had no idea. 795 00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:47,886 They just seemed like a nice, quiet family. 796 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:53,892 - If you look at either as Russian agents or as Russians 797 00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:58,200 who work on disinformation there are more of them 798 00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,420 than there are Russians in the armed forces. 799 00:44:01,464 --> 00:44:04,467 So a thousand. [laughs] 800 00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:06,208 - These can be individuals who know 801 00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:08,907 that they are spying for Russian intelligence. 802 00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:10,865 Know that they are committing espionage. 803 00:44:10,952 --> 00:44:14,739 Or can refer to some individuals who just aren't sure 804 00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:16,523 exactly who they're dealing with. 805 00:44:16,610 --> 00:44:20,309 Maybe it's bankers, maybe its financiers. 806 00:44:20,396 --> 00:44:22,529 Maybe it's people on the periphery of government 807 00:44:22,616 --> 00:44:26,925 doing something that the Russian government wants. 808 00:44:27,012 --> 00:44:28,840 - It seems that anybody who was anybody 809 00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:32,191 in Russian organized crime who came to Manhattan 810 00:44:32,278 --> 00:44:34,410 bought a condo unit in Trump tower. 811 00:44:34,497 --> 00:44:37,239 There were gambling operations going on there 812 00:44:37,326 --> 00:44:39,764 and prostitution operations. 813 00:44:39,851 --> 00:44:42,288 These investigations were leading to Trump 814 00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:43,985 over and over and over again. 815 00:44:45,378 --> 00:44:48,511 - Christopher Steele is a former MI6 specialist in Russia. 816 00:44:48,598 --> 00:44:51,689 The U.S. investigator firm commissioned Mr. Steele 817 00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:55,301 to look at Mr. Trump and Russia. 818 00:44:55,388 --> 00:44:57,216 It was a very general assignment 819 00:44:57,303 --> 00:44:59,784 and he found an extensive set of relations with Russia. 820 00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:05,093 - [Scott] He was generally held in very high regard. 821 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:08,357 Had a reputation of also for working with the FBI. 822 00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:11,143 - He helped the FBI make the FIFA cases. 823 00:45:12,361 --> 00:45:13,275 - [Reporter] Major corruption crackdown 824 00:45:13,362 --> 00:45:14,929 going down right now. 825 00:45:15,016 --> 00:45:16,278 Arrests made around the world. 826 00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:17,802 - [Reporter] This is the result 827 00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:19,325 of a three year long FBI investigation. 828 00:45:19,412 --> 00:45:20,892 - He broke the case. 829 00:45:20,979 --> 00:45:24,460 He gave them access to the key witnesses 830 00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:27,463 that they used to get the pretty spectacular results 831 00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,465 that they ultimately got. 832 00:45:30,771 --> 00:45:34,296 - Alexander Litvinenko, who's a former FSB agent. 833 00:45:34,383 --> 00:45:39,388 When he sought asylum in London he started working for MI6. 834 00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:42,435 His handler was Christopher Steele. 835 00:45:43,871 --> 00:45:46,831 He was trying to expose that Vladimir Putin 836 00:45:46,918 --> 00:45:49,398 was closely linked to Semion Mogilevich, 837 00:45:49,485 --> 00:45:52,271 the crime boss of Russia. 838 00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:55,448 Litvinenko was eventually poisoned by polonium 839 00:45:55,535 --> 00:45:59,104 in a murder that was very directly linked to Russia. 840 00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:04,022 So when Mr. Steele was hired to do oppo research 841 00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:08,461 on Donald Trump he was very, very knowledgeable indeed. 842 00:46:09,854 --> 00:46:13,466 - The Steele Dossier was a set of reports 843 00:46:13,553 --> 00:46:15,163 that Mr. Steele wrote. 844 00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:22,344 - All of its allegations fall into one of three categories. 845 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:30,265 Not yet proven, proven to be true, and have an error 846 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:39,753 that is consistent with transcription 847 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,234 or transliteration problems. 848 00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:45,454 - It was said to Mr. Steele's sources 849 00:46:45,541 --> 00:46:50,111 that Russia had turned Mr. Trump for many, many years. 850 00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,506 In the course of work on Russia matters, 851 00:46:53,593 --> 00:46:55,508 I came to know Mr. Steele. 852 00:46:55,595 --> 00:46:58,859 I work with people who I can trust. 853 00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,034 Yes, I trusted Chris Steele. 854 00:47:00,121 --> 00:47:02,036 I still trust Chris Steele. 855 00:47:02,123 --> 00:47:03,516 - Look at Putin what he's doing with, 856 00:47:03,603 --> 00:47:05,344 I mean, you know, what's going on over there. 857 00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:06,867 I mean, this guy has done, 858 00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:09,304 whether you like him or don't like him 859 00:47:09,391 --> 00:47:13,091 he's doing a great job in rebuilding the image of Russia. 860 00:47:13,178 --> 00:47:15,615 And also rebuilding Russia period. 861 00:47:15,702 --> 00:47:19,924 - Putin seeks the veneer of democratic legitimacy 862 00:47:20,011 --> 00:47:22,491 but there cannot be choice. 863 00:47:22,578 --> 00:47:25,277 In the Russian constitution you cannot run 864 00:47:25,364 --> 00:47:26,974 for a third term as president. 865 00:47:27,061 --> 00:47:30,630 So what he did was to find a very close member 866 00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:34,025 of his inner circle to agree to be president 867 00:47:34,112 --> 00:47:35,678 while he could be prime minster. 868 00:47:39,204 --> 00:47:43,643 - He is someone who is obviously being installed by Putin 869 00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:48,430 and it raises serious issues about how we're going 870 00:47:48,517 --> 00:47:50,171 to deal with Russia going forward. 871 00:47:51,781 --> 00:47:55,089 - Putin faces what I call the King Lear problem. 872 00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:58,571 You can't resign to a comfortable life 873 00:47:58,658 --> 00:48:02,270 because of the things you've done when you were king. 874 00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:06,187 But the constitutional forms were observed. 875 00:48:17,198 --> 00:48:18,765 - When Putin returned to the presidency, 876 00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:20,549 by that point I think it was about 877 00:48:20,636 --> 00:48:22,508 to the least surprising development that any of us 878 00:48:22,595 --> 00:48:24,466 had seen in Russia in a long time. 879 00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:26,555 - I mean, you can imagine the conversation with Putin. 880 00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:27,687 Vladimir. 881 00:48:29,297 --> 00:48:30,646 You think you'd like to be president again? 882 00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:33,867 I think I would. [audience laughs] 883 00:48:39,568 --> 00:48:43,703 - The election was clearly unfair and illegitimate. 884 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:46,619 I said that on behalf of the United States. 885 00:48:46,706 --> 00:48:50,014 We just witnessed a flawed duma election in Russia 886 00:48:50,101 --> 00:48:54,627 including efforts to halt the election monitoring. 887 00:48:54,714 --> 00:48:57,021 And Russian voters deserve a full investigation 888 00:48:57,108 --> 00:48:59,849 of electoral fraud and manipulation. 889 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:01,982 I wasn't the only person who thought that. 890 00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:09,120 - [Heather] He encountered the largest public demonstrations 891 00:49:09,207 --> 00:49:10,686 of his tenure. 892 00:49:10,773 --> 00:49:13,037 [shouting in foreign language] 893 00:49:13,124 --> 00:49:14,952 - [Man] They shouted Putin is a thief. 894 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,693 - Which terrified him because of the Orange Revolution. 895 00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:22,524 Because of the uprisings that took place 896 00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:25,397 post collapse of the Soviet Union 897 00:49:25,484 --> 00:49:28,008 in places that wanted more than just 898 00:49:28,095 --> 00:49:30,576 a different form of autocracy. 899 00:49:30,663 --> 00:49:32,708 - If you look at the crowds of those 900 00:49:32,795 --> 00:49:34,536 that were in the protest, 901 00:49:34,623 --> 00:49:37,626 I'll bet ya nine out of 10 of them were under age 25. 902 00:49:37,713 --> 00:49:39,628 They don't want that kind of a government. 903 00:49:39,715 --> 00:49:41,456 They want to be like the Europeans. 904 00:49:41,543 --> 00:49:43,632 And I think that Vladimir Putin has not seen 905 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,678 the last of these protests. 906 00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:48,376 - And then he attacked me and accused me 907 00:49:48,463 --> 00:49:50,988 of inciting the demonstrations 908 00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:53,381 that really were grassroots from the bottom up. 909 00:49:53,468 --> 00:49:56,994 - Putin blamed her very publicly. 910 00:49:57,081 --> 00:49:58,865 Privately he did too, by the way. 911 00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,650 - She set the tone for some of the activists 912 00:50:01,737 --> 00:50:03,043 inside our country. 913 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,566 Gave them a signal. 914 00:50:04,653 --> 00:50:06,133 They heard this signal and started active work 915 00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:09,223 in support of the U.S. State Department. 916 00:50:09,310 --> 00:50:12,705 - I suspect that Putin, like Stalin, 917 00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:16,143 read every one else by his own measure. 918 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:20,582 And being a cynical person, understanding only power, 919 00:50:20,669 --> 00:50:24,108 he probably assumed that we were equally cynical 920 00:50:24,195 --> 00:50:26,719 and our protestations of support for democracy 921 00:50:26,806 --> 00:50:28,112 were meaningless fluff. 922 00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:33,595 So that he sees our actions in Russia 923 00:50:33,682 --> 00:50:35,728 as designed to undermine him. 924 00:50:35,815 --> 00:50:38,296 And he looks at all the democratic activists 925 00:50:38,383 --> 00:50:41,255 as somehow somebody else's puppet. 926 00:50:41,342 --> 00:50:45,651 Hillary Clinton is doing this or Condi Rice is doing this. 927 00:50:45,738 --> 00:50:48,784 - It's not that he believes everything 928 00:50:48,871 --> 00:50:53,050 but there is a kind of a grounding in his KGB training 929 00:50:53,137 --> 00:50:54,834 because, remember, during the Cold War 930 00:50:54,921 --> 00:50:58,533 they would fund some firebrand in some country 931 00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:02,146 to became allied with them and we would go in 932 00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:05,062 and try to undercut that person and visa versa. 933 00:51:05,149 --> 00:51:08,543 But a lot of it is just to keep people in Russia in line. 934 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:13,635 My experience with him was difficult and challenging 935 00:51:14,462 --> 00:51:16,812 because I challenged him. 936 00:51:16,899 --> 00:51:18,814 - It's better not to argue with women. 937 00:51:18,901 --> 00:51:20,903 But Mrs. Clinton has never been too graceful 938 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:22,731 in her statements. 939 00:51:22,818 --> 00:51:25,169 When people push boundaries too far it's not because 940 00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:27,780 they are strong but because they are weak. 941 00:51:27,867 --> 00:51:31,175 But maybe weakness is not the right quality for a woman. 942 00:51:31,262 --> 00:51:33,090 - In meetings that I've had with him, 943 00:51:33,177 --> 00:51:36,919 he is in a very calculated way trying to gain advantage, 944 00:51:37,006 --> 00:51:39,879 looking at you with disdain and contempt. 945 00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,707 The bored kid in school. 946 00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:44,144 When the cameras are on he will criticize the United States. 947 00:51:44,231 --> 00:51:45,624 When the cameras are gone, 948 00:51:45,711 --> 00:51:47,843 he'll act like he's willing to talk to you. 949 00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:49,018 He's into man spreading. 950 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:50,542 You know what that is, right. 951 00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:56,678 - Putin never really developed a working relationship 952 00:51:56,765 --> 00:51:58,419 with secretary Clinton. 953 00:51:58,506 --> 00:52:03,381 He became very upset about what she said in December, 2011 954 00:52:04,251 --> 00:52:05,992 and was looking for revenge. 955 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,777 - If you can use and capture elite in specific ways 956 00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:10,301 you can accomplish your goals 957 00:52:10,388 --> 00:52:12,607 without needing to get public support. 958 00:52:12,694 --> 00:52:14,348 The recruiting tool was money. 959 00:52:14,435 --> 00:52:17,264 - You see just so much money flowing to Trump. 960 00:52:23,488 --> 00:52:26,186 It's hard to imagine there's not more to it 961 00:52:26,273 --> 00:52:29,363 than just simple generosity. [chuckles] 962 00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:33,802 - All his American banks cut their lines of credit. 963 00:52:33,889 --> 00:52:35,630 Stopped doing business with him 964 00:52:35,717 --> 00:52:40,505 and one bank steps into the breach as his lender of choice. 965 00:52:41,506 --> 00:52:42,985 And that's Deutsche bank. 966 00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:47,338 - From the perspective of most western bankers 967 00:52:47,425 --> 00:52:49,818 that was just seen as insane. 968 00:52:49,905 --> 00:52:51,385 - He's had a history 969 00:52:51,472 --> 00:52:53,474 of making misleading statements to them. 970 00:52:53,561 --> 00:52:54,606 Threatening them. 971 00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:56,608 They call and he sues them. 972 00:52:56,695 --> 00:52:58,436 He fails to pay the loan. 973 00:52:58,523 --> 00:53:01,352 He publicly criticizes Deutsche Bank about all this. 974 00:53:01,439 --> 00:53:06,270 But Deutsche bank sticks with him loyally throughout. 975 00:53:06,357 --> 00:53:10,274 Not only that they also start making loans 976 00:53:10,361 --> 00:53:12,624 to his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. 977 00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:16,758 - Deutsche Bank has been fined before 978 00:53:16,845 --> 00:53:19,457 for participating in Russian money laundering. 979 00:53:21,241 --> 00:53:22,982 - [Reporter] The German bank says it's willing to pay 980 00:53:23,069 --> 00:53:26,507 over 600 million dollars in fines for its connections 981 00:53:26,594 --> 00:53:28,335 to alleged Russian money laundering. 982 00:53:29,771 --> 00:53:31,382 - When the scandal erupted that Deutsche Bank 983 00:53:31,469 --> 00:53:33,732 about these money laundering operations, 984 00:53:33,819 --> 00:53:37,431 the Deutsche bank CEO was fired. 985 00:53:37,518 --> 00:53:40,347 He became the CEO of the bank of Cyprus. 986 00:53:40,434 --> 00:53:44,133 - One of the financial institutions 987 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:46,875 through which they launder money. 988 00:53:46,962 --> 00:53:50,662 - [Scott] Who hired him to be the CEO of the Bank of Cyprus? 989 00:53:50,749 --> 00:53:55,319 Wilbur Ross, tight supporter of Donald Trump, 990 00:53:55,406 --> 00:53:58,017 now his Secretary of Commerce. 991 00:53:58,104 --> 00:54:01,890 - The practice of overpaying significantly is something 992 00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:05,633 that falls into the category of Russian methods. 993 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,200 - [Scott] The man known 994 00:54:07,287 --> 00:54:09,071 as the Russian potash king, Rybolovlev, 995 00:54:09,158 --> 00:54:12,597 purchases a property for more than twice 996 00:54:12,684 --> 00:54:14,729 what Trump had paid for it. 997 00:54:15,904 --> 00:54:17,515 - That's when our country was going through 998 00:54:17,602 --> 00:54:20,344 a financial collapse that largely was caused 999 00:54:20,431 --> 00:54:22,737 by the real estate market. 1000 00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:27,089 Did he overpay because Mr. Trump was such a great negotiator 1001 00:54:27,176 --> 00:54:29,353 or was there something else going on? 1002 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,224 - Never does anything with the property. 1003 00:54:31,311 --> 00:54:34,749 So the property transaction appears to be nothing more 1004 00:54:34,836 --> 00:54:38,492 than cover for infusing a cool 100 million dollars 1005 00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:41,234 into Trump's bank accounts. 1006 00:54:41,321 --> 00:54:45,891 This same Rybolovlev is also a principal owner 1007 00:54:45,978 --> 00:54:48,763 with Wilbur Ross of the bank of Cyprus. 1008 00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:53,246 - In 2013 there was a bust at Trump Tower 1009 00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,509 of a massive gambling ring. 1010 00:54:55,596 --> 00:54:58,730 It was run by a gun named Taiwanchic. 1011 00:54:58,817 --> 00:55:02,255 He has been tied to the Russia crime boss Simeon Mogilevich. 1012 00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:06,868 29 people were indicted but Taiwanchic fled to Russia. 1013 00:55:10,176 --> 00:55:13,048 - [Craig] Taiwanchic appeared again that year, 1014 00:55:13,135 --> 00:55:15,877 oddly enough, at the Miss Universe pageant 1015 00:55:15,964 --> 00:55:20,099 that Donald Trump was doing with Aras Agalarov. 1016 00:55:20,186 --> 00:55:22,493 - [Michael] Billionaire oligarch who was known 1017 00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:24,408 actually as Putin's builder 1018 00:55:24,495 --> 00:55:27,933 because he had done massive construction projects 1019 00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:31,763 for the Kremlin and gotten a big award 1020 00:55:31,850 --> 00:55:34,200 personally delivered by Putin. 1021 00:55:39,248 --> 00:55:40,641 - Donald Trump chose Moscow 1022 00:55:40,728 --> 00:55:42,687 as the place to have Miss Universe. 1023 00:55:42,774 --> 00:55:45,080 I think it would be important for us to understand 1024 00:55:45,167 --> 00:55:48,432 just who he met with while he was on that trip. 1025 00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,260 Whether he talked to Vladimir Putin. 1026 00:55:54,176 --> 00:55:56,004 - There was a luncheon with 1027 00:55:56,091 --> 00:55:59,573 a lot of Russian business leaders in which Trump spoke 1028 00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:03,055 and the birthday party for Aras Agalarov. 1029 00:56:04,012 --> 00:56:06,928 - [Scott] He even appears in the scion 1030 00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:10,018 of the Agalarov family music video. 1031 00:56:10,105 --> 00:56:10,889 - You're fired. 1032 00:56:21,116 --> 00:56:22,422 - Compromat. 1033 00:56:22,509 --> 00:56:24,163 It's essentially embarrassing information 1034 00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:26,731 that's going to put you under somebody else's thumb. 1035 00:56:28,036 --> 00:56:30,474 - Use money, use sex, use whatever they can 1036 00:56:30,561 --> 00:56:31,823 to try to entrap people. 1037 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:33,912 I mean, that's just a fact. 1038 00:56:33,999 --> 00:56:36,828 - They don't mind blowing up their own bribery scheme 1039 00:56:36,915 --> 00:56:41,398 to blackmail an individual and now they've got that person. 1040 00:56:41,485 --> 00:56:44,488 - There's purely rumors that on his trips to Moscow 1041 00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:47,665 that Trump was involved in various sex escapades 1042 00:56:47,752 --> 00:56:49,188 that may have compromised him. 1043 00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:57,022 - [piers] If I can offer you a check for 10 billion dollars. 1044 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:58,676 - [Trump] Billion. 1045 00:56:58,763 --> 00:57:00,504 - [Piers] But the deal is you can't have sex 1046 00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:02,157 for the next 10 years. - Would that include my wife? 1047 00:57:23,701 --> 00:57:27,444 - Sergei Million appears in connection with Trump's dealings 1048 00:57:27,531 --> 00:57:31,665 in Russia and certainly in connection with his hotel stays 1049 00:57:31,752 --> 00:57:34,407 and someone who would know an awful lot about what went on 1050 00:57:34,494 --> 00:57:35,887 during those visits with meetings 1051 00:57:35,974 --> 00:57:37,715 with prostitutes and so forth. 1052 00:57:37,802 --> 00:57:39,543 - You know, I was in Moscow a couple of months ago. 1053 00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:41,806 I own the Miss Universe pageant. 1054 00:57:41,893 --> 00:57:44,156 And they treated me so great. 1055 00:57:44,243 --> 00:57:45,723 Putin even sent me a present. 1056 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:48,377 Beautiful present with a beautiful note. 1057 00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:52,164 - When you look at Steele's report information he gives, 1058 00:57:53,121 --> 00:57:57,125 one of those sources could be Million. 1059 00:57:57,212 --> 00:57:59,650 We don't know that for sure but the descriptions match. 1060 00:57:59,737 --> 00:58:01,869 - He likes Russia because there's money to be made there. 1061 00:58:01,956 --> 00:58:06,091 - He likes Russia because he likes beautiful Russian ladies. 1062 00:58:06,178 --> 00:58:09,703 - But I hear that golden showers was not the end of it. 1063 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:12,489 There was much more extreme sick stuff. 1064 00:58:12,576 --> 00:58:15,143 - He was only there two days one night. 1065 00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:17,145 He was supposed to be there longer 1066 00:58:17,232 --> 00:58:21,541 but Billy Graham's 95th birthday party 1067 00:58:21,628 --> 00:58:25,153 was in Asheville, North Carolina. 1068 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,199 Trump felt the need to go. 1069 00:58:27,286 --> 00:58:28,940 Why? 1070 00:58:29,027 --> 00:58:31,682 Because he's getting ready to run for president. 1071 00:58:31,769 --> 00:58:35,207 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1072 00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:40,821 - To be honest, the question was just asked 1073 00:58:40,908 --> 00:58:43,128 or was asked many times today at the Miss Universe contest. 1074 00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:46,218 They said would you run, and it's just too soon to say. 1075 00:58:46,305 --> 00:58:48,742 - [Reporter] Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin, 1076 00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:53,007 a conversational relationship or anything that you feel 1077 00:58:53,094 --> 00:58:56,489 you have sway or influence over his government? 1078 00:58:56,576 --> 00:59:00,145 - I do have a relationship and I can tell you 1079 00:59:00,232 --> 00:59:02,539 that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. 1080 00:59:02,626 --> 00:59:03,975 He's probably very interested 1081 00:59:04,062 --> 00:59:05,803 in what you and I are saying today 1082 00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:07,326 and I'm sure he's going to be seeing it in some form. 1083 00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:08,849 But I do have a relationship with him. 1084 00:59:08,936 --> 00:59:10,372 - About Russia. 1085 00:59:10,459 --> 00:59:12,244 You were asked yesterday if you've ever spoken 1086 00:59:12,331 --> 00:59:16,030 to Vladimir Putin and you said I don't want to say. 1087 00:59:16,117 --> 00:59:17,423 - Yeah, I have no comment on that. 1088 00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:18,337 No comment. 1089 00:59:18,424 --> 00:59:19,860 I was in Russia-- 1090 00:59:19,947 --> 00:59:21,427 - Well one of the things people like about you 1091 00:59:21,514 --> 00:59:22,733 is you answer any questions. - Yeah, but. 1092 00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:24,604 Let's assume I did. 1093 00:59:24,691 --> 00:59:26,040 Perhaps it was personal or, you know, I don't want to, 1094 00:59:26,127 --> 00:59:28,739 I don't want to hurt his confidence. 1095 00:59:28,826 --> 00:59:31,306 He's done a very brilliant job in terms 1096 00:59:31,393 --> 00:59:34,919 of what he represents and who he's representing. 1097 00:59:38,226 --> 00:59:40,011 - Viktor Yanukovich had been in talks 1098 00:59:40,098 --> 00:59:43,101 with the European Union about an association agreement 1099 00:59:43,188 --> 00:59:47,061 but then after a visit to Moscow and getting the message 1100 00:59:47,148 --> 00:59:50,456 that this was not going to be seen favorably, 1101 00:59:50,543 --> 00:59:52,458 Yanukovich came back and decided that 1102 00:59:52,545 --> 00:59:54,721 in fact he was not gonna pursue this agreement. 1103 00:59:54,808 --> 00:59:57,158 So this square in downtown Kiev, 1104 00:59:57,245 --> 00:59:59,508 protestors went there and began demanding that, in fact, 1105 00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,293 this agreement go into force, 1106 01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:03,687 instead of some alternative agreement with Russia. 1107 01:00:06,211 --> 01:00:09,693 They protest not just in favor of an agreement 1108 01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:11,259 with the European Union 1109 01:00:11,346 --> 01:00:13,697 but a protest against Viktor Yanukovich 1110 01:00:13,784 --> 01:00:16,700 and the way he was running things at the time. 1111 01:00:18,397 --> 01:00:20,355 - About a week later the police went in 1112 01:00:20,442 --> 01:00:21,400 and broke up that camp. 1113 01:00:27,275 --> 01:00:30,409 In two hours shed more blood than had been shed 1114 01:00:30,496 --> 01:00:34,282 during the entire Orange Revolution back in 2004. 1115 01:00:34,369 --> 01:00:35,893 - And at each turn, 1116 01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:38,286 Yanukovich became more and more repressive, 1117 01:00:38,373 --> 01:00:39,766 more and more bloodthirsty. 1118 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:48,340 - You had people shooting into the crowd. 1119 01:00:48,427 --> 01:00:50,516 In some cases directly shot to the head 1120 01:00:50,603 --> 01:00:53,388 where like snipers were shooting at them. 1121 01:00:53,475 --> 01:00:55,782 [guns firing] 1122 01:00:59,351 --> 01:01:02,528 Probably 100, you know, odd people killed. 1123 01:01:10,144 --> 01:01:13,495 - He just infuriated and enraged his entire country. 1124 01:01:25,725 --> 01:01:28,380 - [Reporter] Yanukovich defied calls for his resignation. 1125 01:01:28,467 --> 01:01:32,427 - I am not going to leave Ukraine or go anywhere. 1126 01:01:32,514 --> 01:01:34,995 - Yanukovich packed up in a car and left. 1127 01:01:39,347 --> 01:01:41,567 He fled the country and turned up in Russia. 1128 01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,006 - And this is while Manafort is still advising him. 1129 01:01:46,093 --> 01:01:49,009 - I don't think that Yanukovich was the pro-Putin person 1130 01:01:49,096 --> 01:01:51,620 that he's reputed to be and if you look at what-- 1131 01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:53,100 - [Charlie] Well, he went off. 1132 01:01:53,187 --> 01:01:54,667 He ended up in Moscow. - Well, yeah. 1133 01:01:54,754 --> 01:01:56,408 - [Reporter] The ousted president is wanted 1134 01:01:56,495 --> 01:01:58,192 for mass murder and on the run. 1135 01:01:58,279 --> 01:01:59,716 - So you have the Ukrainian parliament. 1136 01:01:59,803 --> 01:02:01,195 What do we do? 1137 01:02:01,282 --> 01:02:02,631 - [Reporter] Parliament voted 1138 01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:04,459 to free Yanukovych's arch nemesis, 1139 01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:06,418 opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko. 1140 01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:11,423 - Today you have an open road to build Ukraine 1141 01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:13,338 the way you want. 1142 01:02:13,425 --> 01:02:15,862 That is why you must stay here until the person you trust 1143 01:02:15,949 --> 01:02:18,430 is elected in an honest way. 1144 01:02:18,517 --> 01:02:21,041 - My sense is at that point the Russians panicked. 1145 01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:25,916 The Russians had lying in a safe somewhere 1146 01:02:26,003 --> 01:02:29,528 the plan how you take Crimea and they activated that plan. 1147 01:02:33,619 --> 01:02:36,013 Within a couple of days you saw people 1148 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,232 who were very clearly professional soldiers. 1149 01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:40,408 They were wearing Russian style combat fatigues 1150 01:02:40,495 --> 01:02:42,410 but they had no identifying insignia. 1151 01:02:42,497 --> 01:02:45,457 The Ukrainians referred to these people as little green men. 1152 01:02:45,544 --> 01:02:48,329 - [Richard] Which were in fact special operations forces 1153 01:02:48,416 --> 01:02:50,114 and intelligence operatives. 1154 01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:53,552 - We thought this could be the beginning 1155 01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,598 of an outright full scale invasion of the country. 1156 01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:01,690 That's when the separatists shot down the Malaysian airliner 1157 01:03:01,778 --> 01:03:04,563 and killed over 100 Dutch passengers. 1158 01:03:05,956 --> 01:03:08,436 - [Richard] Separatists initially boasted on Twitter 1159 01:03:08,523 --> 01:03:10,699 that they had taken it down. 1160 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:14,181 - The unforgivable sin was Putin lying about it. 1161 01:03:15,704 --> 01:03:19,621 Suggesting Ukrainians shot it down or CIA shot it down. 1162 01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:22,320 Throwing out a bunch of chafe which was an insult. 1163 01:03:23,625 --> 01:03:26,367 The European Union had had enough. 1164 01:03:26,454 --> 01:03:29,283 They joined us with strong sectoral sanctions. 1165 01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:31,024 And that surprised the Russians 1166 01:03:31,111 --> 01:03:33,374 and it hit the Russian economy hard 1167 01:03:33,461 --> 01:03:36,638 right at the time oil prices started to tank. 1168 01:03:36,725 --> 01:03:38,336 So they had a double whammy. 1169 01:03:38,423 --> 01:03:39,946 - How do you respond 1170 01:03:40,033 --> 01:03:43,428 to the greatest geo strategic catastrophe 1171 01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:45,038 of the 20th century, 1172 01:03:45,125 --> 01:03:47,127 which was the collapse of the Soviet Union? 1173 01:03:47,214 --> 01:03:50,565 You try to preempt the collapse of the western system 1174 01:03:50,652 --> 01:03:52,176 in the 21st century. 1175 01:03:53,917 --> 01:03:56,963 If you can't destroy these structures militarily, 1176 01:03:57,050 --> 01:03:59,531 you will destroy them from within. 1177 01:03:59,618 --> 01:04:02,708 - By actually creating fissures and exploiting them 1178 01:04:02,795 --> 01:04:05,493 such that it's the electorate is so divided 1179 01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:08,583 that you don't trust the government anymore. 1180 01:04:08,670 --> 01:04:10,194 - The foundations of geopolitics 1181 01:04:10,281 --> 01:04:12,326 is a guiding principle for Russia. 1182 01:04:12,413 --> 01:04:14,459 It's something that their militaries 1183 01:04:14,546 --> 01:04:16,940 and intelligence services have relied upon 1184 01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:18,898 and applied throughout their campaigns. 1185 01:04:30,997 --> 01:04:34,305 - Russia has helped unite an alternative right movement. 1186 01:04:34,392 --> 01:04:36,655 - You have certain voices in the media. 1187 01:04:36,742 --> 01:04:39,658 Info Wars, for example, Breitbart to capitalize 1188 01:04:39,745 --> 01:04:41,573 on these divisions. 1189 01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:45,620 And then further encourage them for their own personal gain. 1190 01:04:45,707 --> 01:04:47,971 - I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell ya. 1191 01:04:48,058 --> 01:04:50,538 Knock the crap out of him, would you, seriously. 1192 01:04:51,713 --> 01:04:53,498 That guy looked like an NFL football player. 1193 01:04:53,585 --> 01:04:54,586 Now, they took him out. 1194 01:04:54,673 --> 01:04:55,717 And I'll tell you what. 1195 01:04:55,804 --> 01:04:57,719 It was really amazing to watch. 1196 01:04:57,806 --> 01:04:58,633 Bye. 1197 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,461 Go home to mommy. 1198 01:05:00,548 --> 01:05:02,028 But if we get a little bit rough in taking them out, 1199 01:05:02,115 --> 01:05:03,943 oh, we're terrible people. 1200 01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:06,337 It's one of the many reasons our country's going to hell. 1201 01:05:06,424 --> 01:05:08,121 - Certainly this is all in the interest 1202 01:05:08,208 --> 01:05:10,689 of at least one country. 1203 01:05:10,776 --> 01:05:15,041 - To see this otherwise rather brazen candidate 1204 01:05:16,782 --> 01:05:21,787 turn into such a sycophant when the name of Putin 1205 01:05:22,744 --> 01:05:25,834 ever came up rang a very discordant bell. 1206 01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:28,141 - Putin has done an amazing job 1207 01:05:28,228 --> 01:05:31,362 of showing leadership whether it's a noble or cause or not. 1208 01:05:31,449 --> 01:05:32,493 Let's not discuss that. 1209 01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:33,668 He is now the world leader. 1210 01:05:33,755 --> 01:05:35,279 I respect Putin. 1211 01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,671 He's a strong leader, I can tell you that. 1212 01:05:36,758 --> 01:05:37,759 Unlike what we have. 1213 01:05:37,846 --> 01:05:39,544 We have a pathetic leader. 1214 01:05:39,631 --> 01:05:42,155 I think in terms of leadership, he's getting an A. 1215 01:05:42,242 --> 01:05:44,244 - As far as an individual 1216 01:05:44,331 --> 01:05:47,552 who poses a threat to the world literally. 1217 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:50,685 A person who has no moral standards 1218 01:05:50,772 --> 01:05:52,644 that I've been able to detect. 1219 01:05:52,731 --> 01:05:54,428 F is not low enough. 1220 01:05:54,515 --> 01:05:56,604 - He was certainly very vocal about Russia, 1221 01:05:56,691 --> 01:05:58,258 wanting a better relationship. 1222 01:05:58,345 --> 01:05:59,868 - Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing, frankly, 1223 01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:02,219 if we actually got along with Russia? 1224 01:06:02,306 --> 01:06:04,047 - Who's against getting along with people 1225 01:06:04,134 --> 01:06:06,005 but that's not a policy. 1226 01:06:06,092 --> 01:06:08,703 - More noticeable perhaps is the absence of any criticism. 1227 01:06:08,790 --> 01:06:10,575 - The fact is that, you know, 1228 01:06:10,662 --> 01:06:12,055 he hasn't been convicted of anything. 1229 01:06:12,142 --> 01:06:13,926 - Some of the things he was saying 1230 01:06:14,013 --> 01:06:17,756 was actually talking points that sounded very similar 1231 01:06:17,843 --> 01:06:20,063 to what the Russian media will put out there. 1232 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:21,194 - [Reporter] The fact that Ukraine 1233 01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:22,543 has not published radar data 1234 01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:24,676 leads us to the conjecture the missiles, 1235 01:06:24,763 --> 01:06:26,852 if it was a buk, was launched from territory 1236 01:06:26,939 --> 01:06:29,289 under the control of the Ukrainian military. 1237 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,857 - If it was a Russian made buk missile that took down 1238 01:06:31,944 --> 01:06:35,556 that plane would you hold Putin and Russia accountable? 1239 01:06:35,643 --> 01:06:37,167 Would there be sanctions? 1240 01:06:37,254 --> 01:06:39,038 - Well, you know, they say it wasn't them. 1241 01:06:39,125 --> 01:06:40,039 It may have been their weapon but they didn't use it. 1242 01:06:40,126 --> 01:06:41,867 They didn't fire it. 1243 01:06:41,954 --> 01:06:43,564 They even said the other side fired it to blame them. 1244 01:06:43,651 --> 01:06:45,871 - He never provided his original birth certificate. 1245 01:06:45,958 --> 01:06:50,310 What he provided was a photoshopped computer image 1246 01:06:50,397 --> 01:06:54,097 of something that was issued only in 2007. 1247 01:06:54,184 --> 01:06:57,839 - A certificate of live birth is not even signed by anybody. 1248 01:06:57,926 --> 01:06:58,927 I saw his. 1249 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:00,538 I read it very carefully. 1250 01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:01,756 - They're voting for peace on planet earth 1251 01:07:01,843 --> 01:07:03,280 if they vote for Trump. 1252 01:07:03,367 --> 01:07:06,413 But if they vote for Hillary, it's war. 1253 01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:10,330 - Now Hillary Clinton wants to confront nuclear-armed Russia 1254 01:07:10,417 --> 01:07:13,290 that could very well lead us into World War III. 1255 01:07:14,508 --> 01:07:16,423 - Mr. McCain was taken prisoner in Vietnam 1256 01:07:16,510 --> 01:07:19,644 and was put not just in jail but in a pit. 1257 01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:21,472 He sat there for several years. 1258 01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:23,778 Anyone would go nuts after that. 1259 01:07:23,865 --> 01:07:26,085 - He's a war hero 'cause he was captured. 1260 01:07:26,172 --> 01:07:27,782 I like people that weren't captured, okay, 1261 01:07:27,869 --> 01:07:28,957 I hate to tell you. 1262 01:07:30,829 --> 01:07:32,570 - Donald Trump delivered a major foreign policy speech 1263 01:07:32,657 --> 01:07:35,790 at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on April 27. 1264 01:07:35,877 --> 01:07:37,444 The center for the national interest, 1265 01:07:37,531 --> 01:07:39,011 this American Think Tank, 1266 01:07:39,098 --> 01:07:41,535 which has very close ties to the Kremlin. 1267 01:07:41,622 --> 01:07:44,712 This Think Tank played a leading role 1268 01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,889 in drafting Donald Trump's speech 1269 01:07:47,976 --> 01:07:51,806 and that speech was full of Russian propaganda. 1270 01:07:51,893 --> 01:07:54,766 - We can upgrade NATO's outdated mission 1271 01:07:54,853 --> 01:07:57,899 and structure grown out of the Cold War. 1272 01:07:57,986 --> 01:08:01,729 I am skeptical of international unions. 1273 01:08:01,816 --> 01:08:03,992 The U.S. must be prepared 1274 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,692 to let these countries defend themselves. 1275 01:08:07,779 --> 01:08:11,217 Some say the Russians won't be reasonable. 1276 01:08:11,304 --> 01:08:13,045 I intend to find out. 1277 01:08:16,004 --> 01:08:19,182 - When Paul Manafort became the actual head of the campaign 1278 01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:20,879 all of a sudden I had a pop up window 1279 01:08:20,966 --> 01:08:23,273 come on my computer saying that Yahoo believed 1280 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,450 that I was part of an attempt of state sponsored actors. 1281 01:08:27,364 --> 01:08:29,627 So I was being targeted. 1282 01:08:29,714 --> 01:08:31,194 That was the first time. 1283 01:08:32,847 --> 01:08:36,416 - There was a Russian campaign to interfere 1284 01:08:36,503 --> 01:08:38,723 in American elections through hacking. 1285 01:08:38,810 --> 01:08:41,073 That information appeared in the dossier 1286 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,511 before it was publicly reported anywhere else, anywhere. 1287 01:08:44,598 --> 01:08:45,991 - You saw active measures 1288 01:08:46,078 --> 01:08:48,733 in elections across eastern Europe. 1289 01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:50,822 No one really thought that that would happen 1290 01:08:50,909 --> 01:08:53,651 in the U.S. base until it did. 1291 01:08:59,178 --> 01:09:03,791 - I was surprised as everyone was but looking back on it 1292 01:09:03,878 --> 01:09:06,185 with benefit of hindsight, obviously, 1293 01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,665 we should have probably known 1294 01:09:07,752 --> 01:09:11,016 that something like that was going to happen. 1295 01:09:11,103 --> 01:09:13,584 - Russia is 1.6% of the world economy. 1296 01:09:16,761 --> 01:09:21,157 They're so small but they have, they're so centralized. 1297 01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:26,858 And when state concentrates these resources 1298 01:09:26,945 --> 01:09:30,688 on wanting something then it works. 1299 01:09:30,775 --> 01:09:33,169 - Russia did a wide range of hacks. 1300 01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:38,522 Started I would guess around August, September of 2015, 1301 01:09:38,609 --> 01:09:40,001 extended all the way through the spring 1302 01:09:40,088 --> 01:09:42,700 and into the summer of 2016. 1303 01:09:42,787 --> 01:09:45,746 We're talking about thousands of Americans that were hit. 1304 01:09:45,833 --> 01:09:48,706 They were going after anybody and everybody they could. 1305 01:09:48,793 --> 01:09:51,883 Their targets include media personalities, politicians, 1306 01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,841 government officials, current and former. 1307 01:09:53,928 --> 01:09:56,975 Anybody that they could gain what is ultimately information 1308 01:09:57,062 --> 01:09:59,543 or compromat that they could use. 1309 01:09:59,630 --> 01:10:01,197 That is the nuclear fuel 1310 01:10:01,284 --> 01:10:03,286 that powers the influence operation in '16. 1311 01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:06,419 - A couple of my co-workers who had access 1312 01:10:06,506 --> 01:10:09,292 to my personal email used to manage the volume. 1313 01:10:09,379 --> 01:10:12,382 One of them saw a phishing attempt 1314 01:10:12,469 --> 01:10:16,603 from a Google source through some mistake of communication. 1315 01:10:16,690 --> 01:10:20,825 One of our cyber security experts in the campaign suggested 1316 01:10:20,912 --> 01:10:23,349 to my assistant that they change their email account. 1317 01:10:23,436 --> 01:10:27,875 So she clicked on the link and my private email cache 1318 01:10:27,962 --> 01:10:30,356 was, you know, was exfiltrated. 1319 01:10:33,881 --> 01:10:37,320 - People were seeing this dangerous troubling activity 1320 01:10:37,407 --> 01:10:39,844 coming from the Russians that was actually 1321 01:10:39,931 --> 01:10:42,499 in our electoral system. 1322 01:10:42,586 --> 01:10:44,109 - Government officials learned that they're 1323 01:10:44,196 --> 01:10:49,070 actually going into state voter databases. 1324 01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,943 - There may have been 26 different states 1325 01:10:52,030 --> 01:10:54,293 where there were efforts made to penetrate. 1326 01:10:54,380 --> 01:10:56,513 That's disturbing. 1327 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,691 The key to flip an election without leaving a trace 1328 01:11:00,778 --> 01:11:02,954 is the voter rolls. 1329 01:11:03,041 --> 01:11:07,132 - It would only take a small digital switch 1330 01:11:07,219 --> 01:11:09,003 to make that happen. 1331 01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:13,660 This really spooked officials in the White House 1332 01:11:13,747 --> 01:11:18,665 and that's the moment I think that the enormity 1333 01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:21,929 of the Russian influence campaign 1334 01:11:22,016 --> 01:11:24,715 really started to hit home. 1335 01:11:24,802 --> 01:11:27,152 - The fact that there was that attack 1336 01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:30,155 on the fundamental, the absolute fundamental 1337 01:11:30,242 --> 01:11:34,507 free and fair election should have alarmed all of us. 1338 01:11:34,594 --> 01:11:36,857 - The Russians didn't care if we found out. 1339 01:11:36,944 --> 01:11:38,076 This is pretty new. 1340 01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:39,425 - They stole the data. 1341 01:11:39,512 --> 01:11:40,557 Let's be clear about it. 1342 01:11:40,644 --> 01:11:41,384 I don't like this word hacking. 1343 01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:43,386 This is theft. 1344 01:11:43,473 --> 01:11:45,953 If the Russians walked into my house and took something out, 1345 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,999 this is exactly the same thing. 1346 01:11:48,086 --> 01:11:50,523 And I think the problem that a lot of Americans have with it 1347 01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:53,439 is they don't see it, they don't think of it that way. 1348 01:11:53,526 --> 01:11:55,920 - The goal was plausible deniability. 1349 01:11:56,007 --> 01:11:58,705 And you hear that even in Vladimir Putin's statements. 1350 01:11:58,792 --> 01:12:00,185 - If they are patriotic, 1351 01:12:00,272 --> 01:12:02,187 they contribute in a way they think is right. 1352 01:12:02,274 --> 01:12:05,799 To fight against those who say bad things about Russia. 1353 01:12:05,886 --> 01:12:07,758 - If there were people in the Trump Campaign 1354 01:12:07,845 --> 01:12:09,368 who colluded in any of that, 1355 01:12:09,455 --> 01:12:11,849 those people are at serious criminal risk 1356 01:12:11,936 --> 01:12:16,419 because there were serious crimes people committed in 2016 1357 01:12:16,506 --> 01:12:18,986 to influence the U.S. elections. 1358 01:12:19,073 --> 01:12:20,727 - Once it looked like Trump 1359 01:12:20,814 --> 01:12:23,121 was gonna be the clear nominee, the Agalarovs resurfaced 1360 01:12:23,208 --> 01:12:25,863 and they said we are obviously supportive 1361 01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:27,995 of the Trump Campaign but more importantly, 1362 01:12:28,082 --> 01:12:30,041 we are doing so with the blessing of the Russian government 1363 01:12:30,128 --> 01:12:32,217 and with the Russian government involved. 1364 01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:38,092 - And they promised there would be the delivery 1365 01:12:38,179 --> 01:12:41,705 of information that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. 1366 01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:43,924 - [Man] This is information 1367 01:12:44,011 --> 01:12:45,361 the Russian government has collected. 1368 01:12:49,147 --> 01:12:53,281 - Donald Trump, Jr. emailed back, great, I love it. 1369 01:12:54,848 --> 01:12:57,329 Here we see what appears to be evidence of collusion. 1370 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:02,682 - [Michael] Donald Trump, Jr. forwarded the emails 1371 01:13:02,769 --> 01:13:05,163 to Paul Manafort, then the campaign manager, 1372 01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:07,513 and Jared Kushner. 1373 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,298 They both sat in on the meeting. 1374 01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:13,911 - Conspiracies are very easy to enter into. 1375 01:13:13,998 --> 01:13:17,088 If indeed there was just a tacit agreement 1376 01:13:17,175 --> 01:13:20,265 furthering that conspiracy, boy, they're in. 1377 01:13:21,179 --> 01:13:23,268 And they're on the wrong side of the law. 1378 01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:31,145 - Trump being pressed early on in the campion 1379 01:13:32,277 --> 01:13:34,192 for a list of his foreign policy advisors. 1380 01:13:34,279 --> 01:13:39,284 The second name he mentions is Carter Page, PhD. 1381 01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:41,982 - No one had heard of Carter Page. 1382 01:13:42,069 --> 01:13:44,507 He had worked for Merrill Lynch in Moscow. 1383 01:13:44,594 --> 01:13:48,032 - [Michael] He had been an investor in Gazprom 1384 01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:52,863 and a quite vocal defender of the Putin government. 1385 01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:55,605 A critic of sanctions. 1386 01:13:55,692 --> 01:13:58,172 - Carter Page traveled over to Moscow 1387 01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:00,174 with permission of the Trump campaign 1388 01:14:00,261 --> 01:14:02,263 as a senior advisor to Donald Trump. 1389 01:14:02,350 --> 01:14:05,397 - Washington and other western capitals 1390 01:14:05,484 --> 01:14:07,965 have impeded potential progress 1391 01:14:08,052 --> 01:14:12,099 through their often hypocritical focus on ideas 1392 01:14:12,186 --> 01:14:15,233 such as democratization, inequality, 1393 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,017 corruption, and regime change. 1394 01:14:17,104 --> 01:14:19,803 - [Craig] The Steele Dossier alleges that Carter Page 1395 01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:22,849 met with Igor Sechin who is head of Rozneft, 1396 01:14:22,936 --> 01:14:25,373 the enormous Russian oil company. 1397 01:14:27,201 --> 01:14:30,422 Sechin happens to be very, very close to Vladimir Putin. 1398 01:14:30,509 --> 01:14:31,945 - [Scott] Sechin was his closest friend 1399 01:14:32,032 --> 01:14:33,381 in the intelligence services. 1400 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,167 - They came up with a scheme 1401 01:14:36,254 --> 01:14:39,213 by which sanctions would be lifted on Russia. 1402 01:14:40,476 --> 01:14:44,001 In return, when parts of Rozneft were sold off, 1403 01:14:44,088 --> 01:14:47,221 a huge portion of it, I believe was 19% of it, 1404 01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:48,353 would be diverted. 1405 01:14:50,311 --> 01:14:51,617 - This could have been another way 1406 01:14:51,704 --> 01:14:55,360 to funnel enormous cash resources 1407 01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:57,318 to Donald Trump or his family. 1408 01:14:59,973 --> 01:15:03,194 America's European allies were picking up things 1409 01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:07,067 involving interaction between the figures associated 1410 01:15:07,154 --> 01:15:11,332 with the Trump Campaign and Russian agents of influence 1411 01:15:11,419 --> 01:15:13,465 that they were very disturbed about. 1412 01:15:27,348 --> 01:15:30,177 - When the administration asked for a bipartisan statement 1413 01:15:30,264 --> 01:15:32,005 saying that Russians were active 1414 01:15:32,092 --> 01:15:33,790 and they were trying to interfere with the election 1415 01:15:33,877 --> 01:15:35,966 they were blocked by Republican leadership. 1416 01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:38,708 - When I was working in the House of Representatives, 1417 01:15:38,795 --> 01:15:41,319 especially as the Policy Director for the House Republicans, 1418 01:15:41,406 --> 01:15:43,713 I was part of many discussions. 1419 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,193 One of them was on June 15. 1420 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,805 One of the leaders speculated that Trump 1421 01:15:48,892 --> 01:15:51,416 had a compromising relationship with Putin, 1422 01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:56,552 a very serious allegation to make 1423 01:15:56,639 --> 01:15:59,424 but it was one that everyone was thinking. 1424 01:16:04,603 --> 01:16:07,171 The leaders were afraid to stand up to Donald Trump 1425 01:16:07,258 --> 01:16:12,263 for fear of being attacked by his Russian troll army. 1426 01:16:29,236 --> 01:16:31,282 - [Michael] By the time of the convention, 1427 01:16:31,369 --> 01:16:32,849 it was beginning to look 1428 01:16:32,936 --> 01:16:36,853 like there was a really serious Russian effort. 1429 01:16:44,382 --> 01:16:45,775 - She is above the law. 1430 01:16:45,862 --> 01:16:47,298 - [Michael] Michael Flynn had become 1431 01:16:47,385 --> 01:16:51,519 a top national security advisor to Trump. 1432 01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:52,390 - Lock her up. 1433 01:16:55,349 --> 01:16:56,612 - What concerns me again 1434 01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:58,222 from a counter intelligence perspective 1435 01:16:58,309 --> 01:17:00,050 is the pattern that Flynn has established. 1436 01:17:00,137 --> 01:17:01,965 Flynn goes to Moscow and sits next to Vladimir Putin 1437 01:17:02,052 --> 01:17:04,707 in a lavish RT sponsored event. 1438 01:17:04,794 --> 01:17:06,317 Just like in the United States, 1439 01:17:06,404 --> 01:17:07,927 you don't get to sit next to the president 1440 01:17:08,014 --> 01:17:09,102 of the United States without any planning. 1441 01:17:10,713 --> 01:17:12,497 He takes money from the Russians, from RT, 1442 01:17:12,584 --> 01:17:15,195 which is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Kremlin. 1443 01:17:15,282 --> 01:17:16,849 Then says he didn't take any money. 1444 01:17:16,936 --> 01:17:19,112 - [Reporter] Were you paid for that amount? 1445 01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:22,725 - You have to ask my, the folks that went over there to-- 1446 01:17:22,812 --> 01:17:23,900 - I'm asking you. 1447 01:17:23,987 --> 01:17:25,423 You'd know if you were paid. 1448 01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:26,685 - I didn't take any money from Russia 1449 01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:28,165 if that's what you're asking me. 1450 01:17:28,252 --> 01:17:29,296 - Well then who paid you? 1451 01:17:29,383 --> 01:17:31,124 - My Speaker's Bureau. 1452 01:17:31,211 --> 01:17:33,649 - The Speakers Bureau is merely the pass through 1453 01:17:33,736 --> 01:17:38,001 for the organization that's paying for the speech. 1454 01:17:38,088 --> 01:17:40,525 Flynn had given the same answer 1455 01:17:40,612 --> 01:17:43,397 when he was trying to get his security clearance. 1456 01:17:46,183 --> 01:17:48,446 - At that convention, the Republican party did something 1457 01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:51,014 that they almost have never done before 1458 01:17:51,101 --> 01:17:53,407 which was take out of their platform, 1459 01:17:53,494 --> 01:17:55,888 language that was standing up for Ukraine 1460 01:17:55,975 --> 01:17:58,021 and standing against Russia. 1461 01:17:58,108 --> 01:17:59,762 - I was confident that was gonna be 1462 01:17:59,849 --> 01:18:01,459 a part of our party platform. 1463 01:18:01,546 --> 01:18:03,069 It was before. 1464 01:18:03,156 --> 01:18:06,290 All of a sudden somewhere it disappeared. 1465 01:18:06,377 --> 01:18:08,640 - J.D. Gordon, his account is that it was 1466 01:18:08,727 --> 01:18:10,947 at the request of the Trump Campaign. 1467 01:18:11,034 --> 01:18:15,734 - And I think that's part of this whole scandal 1468 01:18:15,821 --> 01:18:17,780 that needs to be resolved. 1469 01:18:17,867 --> 01:18:21,566 Why would the Republican party remove 1470 01:18:21,653 --> 01:18:26,223 a provision that would help people who had been invaded 1471 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:29,052 and slaughtered defend themselves? 1472 01:18:29,139 --> 01:18:29,922 Interesting. 1473 01:18:44,197 --> 01:18:46,286 - When we went into the convention, 1474 01:18:46,373 --> 01:18:49,202 we had to contend with that first drop of emails. 1475 01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:51,814 - Just that the DNC employee-- - It's Russia. 1476 01:18:51,901 --> 01:18:53,337 Adverse. 1477 01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:54,773 They were in communication or in touch 1478 01:18:54,860 --> 01:18:57,602 with Julian Assange at Wikileaks. 1479 01:18:57,689 --> 01:18:59,822 - And then they published that data in a way 1480 01:18:59,909 --> 01:19:03,260 to help Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. 1481 01:19:03,347 --> 01:19:05,262 - When Wikileaks was originally founded 1482 01:19:05,349 --> 01:19:09,222 I don't think it had the intention of influencing 1483 01:19:09,309 --> 01:19:13,139 the 2016 American election but was it the goal 1484 01:19:13,226 --> 01:19:16,534 after Assange announced that he wanted to harm Hillary. 1485 01:19:16,621 --> 01:19:17,404 You bet. 1486 01:19:18,405 --> 01:19:19,624 I mean, he said so. 1487 01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:22,888 From that standpoint, it was a match made in heaven. 1488 01:19:24,803 --> 01:19:28,328 - [John] They were actively in the systems of Democratic 1489 01:19:28,415 --> 01:19:31,244 and as we now know Republicans as well. 1490 01:19:31,331 --> 01:19:33,377 - We'll publish the embarrassing material 1491 01:19:33,464 --> 01:19:35,771 from the hack into the DNC. 1492 01:19:35,858 --> 01:19:39,513 We won't publish the embarrassing material in the RNC. 1493 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,211 - There were more damaging ones on Manafort 1494 01:19:41,298 --> 01:19:42,038 that they could have dropped. 1495 01:19:42,125 --> 01:19:43,953 They didn't. 1496 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,869 It really exposed a lot of personal contact information. 1497 01:19:46,956 --> 01:19:49,872 So many staff were getting harassment calls for weeks. 1498 01:19:49,959 --> 01:19:53,179 - As we learned more first about the DNC, 1499 01:19:53,266 --> 01:19:57,793 he basically invited them to try to, you know, hack into me. 1500 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,013 - He blurts things out that sound to me 1501 01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:05,496 as a prosecutor almost like an effort to confess. 1502 01:20:05,583 --> 01:20:08,673 - Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able 1503 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:13,765 to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. 1504 01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:19,379 - If you were in fact conspiring with Russia 1505 01:20:20,598 --> 01:20:22,905 and encouraging them to help your campaign 1506 01:20:22,992 --> 01:20:25,777 and signaling them as to what you wanted them to do... 1507 01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:27,387 - I think you will probably 1508 01:20:27,474 --> 01:20:30,129 be rewarded mightily by our press. 1509 01:20:32,436 --> 01:20:36,353 - There's a pretty good suggestion right there 1510 01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,746 but in this case made in plain view in open daylight 1511 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:41,445 at high noon, it's a little odd. 1512 01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:47,451 - Campaign was over. 1513 01:20:47,538 --> 01:20:48,626 Bernie had lost. 1514 01:20:48,713 --> 01:20:51,455 I was assisting in helping with 1515 01:20:51,542 --> 01:20:54,501 a number of Facebook pages here in California. 1516 01:20:54,588 --> 01:20:57,940 I started to see strange people appearing. 1517 01:20:58,027 --> 01:21:02,422 Their posts were coming from American sounding websites 1518 01:21:02,509 --> 01:21:06,035 but when I peeled away the layers, 1519 01:21:06,122 --> 01:21:08,472 eastern Europe became a common theme. 1520 01:21:09,690 --> 01:21:12,171 They were propaganda pieces. 1521 01:21:12,258 --> 01:21:14,130 Not a single one of them true. 1522 01:21:14,217 --> 01:21:17,089 All viciously anti-Hillary. 1523 01:21:17,176 --> 01:21:20,092 This isn't just one Sanders page. 1524 01:21:20,179 --> 01:21:22,616 It's Latinos for Sanders, Pennsylvania, 1525 01:21:22,703 --> 01:21:24,618 Wisconsin, Michigan for Sanders. 1526 01:21:24,705 --> 01:21:26,533 It kept on going. 1527 01:21:26,620 --> 01:21:30,102 - While we were focusing on the positive of social media 1528 01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:33,976 and information technology, Russia was looking at how 1529 01:21:34,063 --> 01:21:35,542 to use that as an instrument 1530 01:21:35,629 --> 01:21:38,545 and they have been incredibly effective. 1531 01:21:38,632 --> 01:21:41,635 - Cyber with social media, with things like RT. 1532 01:21:41,722 --> 01:21:43,594 They can reach out to western publics in a way 1533 01:21:43,681 --> 01:21:46,727 that they couldn't do 35, 40 years ago. 1534 01:21:46,814 --> 01:21:49,165 Some of their predecessors would be really envious 1535 01:21:49,252 --> 01:21:51,080 of the techniques that they have now. 1536 01:21:51,167 --> 01:21:53,778 - How the Russian state does influence operations online 1537 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:55,258 is pretty complex. 1538 01:21:55,345 --> 01:21:57,608 On the one hand you have real people, trolls. 1539 01:21:57,695 --> 01:22:00,959 A bigger part is actually digital disinformation. 1540 01:22:01,046 --> 01:22:05,572 Making user accounts that are algorithms. 1541 01:22:05,659 --> 01:22:09,794 This is the evolution of artificial intelligence online. 1542 01:22:09,881 --> 01:22:12,492 - Russians figured out how you game Google. 1543 01:22:12,579 --> 01:22:15,060 If you have enough bots to drive it 1544 01:22:15,147 --> 01:22:17,454 to the top of the Google suggestion list. 1545 01:22:17,541 --> 01:22:18,934 - Any wedge that's there, 1546 01:22:19,021 --> 01:22:20,674 they're gonna test that audience out. 1547 01:22:20,761 --> 01:22:22,676 And when they find success then they exploit it. 1548 01:22:22,763 --> 01:22:24,678 They double down on it. 1549 01:22:24,765 --> 01:22:26,115 You might see them show up 1550 01:22:26,202 --> 01:22:27,986 around Black Lives Matter protests. 1551 01:22:28,073 --> 01:22:30,206 And in the counter protest movement. 1552 01:22:30,293 --> 01:22:32,512 Any anti-government or white supremacist group. 1553 01:22:32,599 --> 01:22:34,645 Nationalists, non-globalists. 1554 01:22:34,732 --> 01:22:38,649 Anti-EU, anti-NATO, anti-immigration. 1555 01:22:38,736 --> 01:22:42,783 - Promoting the far right, promoting the far left, 1556 01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:46,091 so that our politics become more polarized, 1557 01:22:46,178 --> 01:22:48,746 then Putin can feed lies to either side 1558 01:22:48,833 --> 01:22:50,835 because they hate each other so much. 1559 01:22:51,967 --> 01:22:54,578 If we're divided as Americans 1560 01:22:54,665 --> 01:22:58,364 then it's harder for us to stand up to that influence. 1561 01:22:58,451 --> 01:23:00,671 - They know that in the west there's a tendency 1562 01:23:00,758 --> 01:23:02,760 towards positivism, there's a tendency towards, 1563 01:23:02,847 --> 01:23:03,891 well, I don't know. 1564 01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:05,023 That's a story that's out there. 1565 01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:05,806 We just can't discredit it. 1566 01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:06,894 We have to. 1567 01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:08,374 Maybe the media is right. 1568 01:23:08,461 --> 01:23:10,159 The Russians know that we do this as westerners. 1569 01:23:10,246 --> 01:23:11,943 They see it coming and they take it to the bank 1570 01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:13,292 every single time. 1571 01:23:13,379 --> 01:23:14,641 - The westerners are lazy. 1572 01:23:14,728 --> 01:23:16,165 I mean, they don't do research. 1573 01:23:16,252 --> 01:23:18,558 Russians have already done everything for them 1574 01:23:18,645 --> 01:23:21,605 and they know how to pack it and how to feed it to them. 1575 01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:23,911 - Russia wins the audience first 1576 01:23:23,999 --> 01:23:25,565 and then directs them somewhere. 1577 01:23:25,652 --> 01:23:27,567 It's very different from American approaches. 1578 01:23:27,654 --> 01:23:29,178 Americans are impatient. 1579 01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:31,658 You just create pictures, you create bios 1580 01:23:31,745 --> 01:23:34,096 that look like accounts that are from these locations 1581 01:23:34,183 --> 01:23:36,881 because people are more likely to take in information 1582 01:23:36,968 --> 01:23:39,405 from people that look like them and talk like them. 1583 01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:41,103 Follow everybody that's in that community. 1584 01:23:41,190 --> 01:23:42,756 You retweet what they say. 1585 01:23:42,843 --> 01:23:44,715 Lowering the guard of that audience 1586 01:23:44,802 --> 01:23:47,413 so they would accept Russian information or Russian views. 1587 01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:50,373 Over time you can insert in the content you want. 1588 01:23:52,462 --> 01:23:54,594 - [Reporter] In this office building in St. Petersburg, 1589 01:23:54,681 --> 01:23:56,248 an army of trolls. 1590 01:23:56,335 --> 01:23:58,033 They were even caught on camera 1591 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,644 secretly filmed by a former employee. 1592 01:24:00,731 --> 01:24:02,646 - The U.S. elections are the key issue 1593 01:24:02,733 --> 01:24:04,952 for the Kremlin and of course Russia has invested 1594 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,954 a lot of effort into them. 1595 01:24:07,042 --> 01:24:08,782 It's so sophisticated and adapted 1596 01:24:08,869 --> 01:24:10,523 for the tastes of internet users 1597 01:24:10,610 --> 01:24:12,743 that it's almost impossible to recognize. 1598 01:24:12,830 --> 01:24:14,658 - You have serious quotas. 1599 01:24:14,745 --> 01:24:17,748 So in an hour you have to produce 20 tweets, 30 comments 1600 01:24:17,835 --> 01:24:19,750 on these websites. 1601 01:24:19,837 --> 01:24:22,057 So, it's actually like a work environment for these people. 1602 01:24:22,144 --> 01:24:24,842 - [Reporter] 12 hours a day praising the Kremlin, 1603 01:24:24,929 --> 01:24:27,062 berating its enemies. 1604 01:24:27,149 --> 01:24:29,716 - I myself have a number of Russian trolls. 1605 01:24:29,803 --> 01:24:32,937 I know whenever I refer to the illegal annexation of Crimea 1606 01:24:33,024 --> 01:24:35,200 I get, you know, quite a bit of criticism. 1607 01:24:35,287 --> 01:24:36,462 - An interview like this, 1608 01:24:36,549 --> 01:24:37,898 once it goes out on the internet, 1609 01:24:37,985 --> 01:24:39,117 I'll receive some sort of trolling 1610 01:24:39,204 --> 01:24:40,771 very specifically around it. 1611 01:24:40,858 --> 01:24:43,295 The goal is essentially to get you to shut up. 1612 01:24:43,382 --> 01:24:45,167 And to not be a challenger. 1613 01:24:45,254 --> 01:24:46,907 They'll threaten lawsuits, for example, 1614 01:24:46,994 --> 01:24:48,996 because they know nothing effects an American 1615 01:24:49,084 --> 01:24:50,650 like the threat of a lawsuit. 1616 01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,350 If you're operating in Europe, the closer you get to Moscow, 1617 01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:57,179 the more your physical life is actually in danger. 1618 01:24:57,266 --> 01:24:59,703 [gun firing] 1619 01:25:00,921 --> 01:25:02,836 They can try and break into your bank accounts, 1620 01:25:02,923 --> 01:25:04,403 attack you financially, 1621 01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:06,013 and if they can't get to you personally 1622 01:25:06,101 --> 01:25:07,972 they'll target your family. 1623 01:25:08,059 --> 01:25:09,800 They create false stories, 1624 01:25:09,887 --> 01:25:12,803 seed it out there to try and destroy your reputation. 1625 01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:16,807 - You plant an idea, a fake story, a lie. 1626 01:25:16,894 --> 01:25:18,374 - It will take on a life of its own 1627 01:25:18,461 --> 01:25:19,723 and you don't have to do the propaganda. 1628 01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:21,551 The audience will do it for you. 1629 01:25:22,813 --> 01:25:25,729 Seth Rich was a campaign worker for Hillary Clinton. 1630 01:25:25,816 --> 01:25:27,513 He turned up dead. 1631 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,907 The Seth Rich story was that he was the one 1632 01:25:29,994 --> 01:25:32,605 who stole the Democratic Committee emails. 1633 01:25:32,692 --> 01:25:34,912 There's no evidence to support that. 1634 01:25:34,999 --> 01:25:36,827 Today is, it's an unsolved murder 1635 01:25:36,914 --> 01:25:39,046 but it's propagated both by the alternative right 1636 01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:40,874 but also by groups like Wikileaks. 1637 01:25:40,961 --> 01:25:42,702 Even to the point where you have Russian ambassador 1638 01:25:42,789 --> 01:25:44,835 show up and say I think there might be something 1639 01:25:44,922 --> 01:25:46,402 into this Seth Rich story. 1640 01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:48,752 That doubt that's there really covers your hand 1641 01:25:48,839 --> 01:25:50,057 over the longer term. 1642 01:25:51,537 --> 01:25:53,844 - And sometimes the most outrageous 1643 01:25:53,931 --> 01:25:57,674 are the ones that you think that you don't want to dignify 1644 01:25:57,761 --> 01:26:00,894 with a response to but that I've subsequently learned 1645 01:26:00,981 --> 01:26:02,722 that's a kind of dangerous proposition. 1646 01:26:02,809 --> 01:26:05,029 - John Podesta says let's go over to the pizza place 1647 01:26:05,116 --> 01:26:06,639 and all of a sudden it's a story 1648 01:26:06,726 --> 01:26:09,120 about child trafficking ring in the basement 1649 01:26:09,207 --> 01:26:11,253 which doesn't exist in the pizza place. 1650 01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:14,256 - Resulted in a person who had been reading this stuff 1651 01:26:14,343 --> 01:26:16,780 deciding that he would deputize himself to come up here 1652 01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:19,739 with a gun, firing that weapon in the pizza parlor. 1653 01:26:20,566 --> 01:26:21,959 But it just sort of never ends. 1654 01:26:24,353 --> 01:26:27,182 - 2013 they were starting to learn the power 1655 01:26:27,269 --> 01:26:28,748 of this influence. 1656 01:26:28,835 --> 01:26:32,056 In 2014 they were doing capability development. 1657 01:26:32,143 --> 01:26:35,799 '15 was winning audiences so that in 2016 1658 01:26:35,886 --> 01:26:38,018 you could actually go after the U.S. election. 1659 01:26:39,585 --> 01:26:41,892 The primary message would be one, 1660 01:26:41,979 --> 01:26:43,850 Hillary Clinton cannot become president. 1661 01:26:43,937 --> 01:26:46,853 Second one is Trump is the man to mend fences with Russia 1662 01:26:46,940 --> 01:26:50,292 and he's a great leader and a nationalist much like Putin. 1663 01:26:50,379 --> 01:26:52,903 The third one was Bernie Sanders got a raw deal 1664 01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:54,948 that you shouldn't even come out to the polls. 1665 01:26:55,035 --> 01:26:58,822 - The Russians in line with right wing radical media 1666 01:26:58,909 --> 01:27:03,435 were creating false stories to generate fear 1667 01:27:03,522 --> 01:27:05,481 and in story after story after story. 1668 01:27:05,568 --> 01:27:07,309 - [George] Secretary Clinton had a serious disease. 1669 01:27:07,396 --> 01:27:08,788 - [Man] Multiple sclerosis. 1670 01:27:08,875 --> 01:27:09,963 - [Woman] Hillary's gonna cause nuclear war. 1671 01:27:10,050 --> 01:27:11,487 - [Man] Murderer of 30 people. 1672 01:27:11,574 --> 01:27:13,706 - [Man] Funding Isis, smuggling drugs. 1673 01:27:13,793 --> 01:27:15,230 - Untrustworthy. - Pedophilia. 1674 01:27:15,317 --> 01:27:16,709 - [Woman] Crooked. 1675 01:27:16,796 --> 01:27:17,841 - Hillary Clinton is the she devil. 1676 01:27:17,928 --> 01:27:21,061 - Totally creepy falsehood. 1677 01:27:21,148 --> 01:27:23,063 - Sometimes we found in the United States 1678 01:27:23,150 --> 01:27:27,154 our greatest strength, free speech, open societies, 1679 01:27:27,242 --> 01:27:32,029 a democracy can also be one of our greatest vulnerabilities. 1680 01:27:32,116 --> 01:27:37,121 - I don't think we were fully aware of the impact, 1681 01:27:38,078 --> 01:27:39,558 the effects that it was having. 1682 01:27:39,645 --> 01:27:42,996 So much of it seemed surreal, ridiculous. 1683 01:27:43,083 --> 01:27:46,739 - By utilizing our openness, they exploited us. 1684 01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:49,089 If people that I knew personally 1685 01:27:49,176 --> 01:27:51,222 to be thinking thoughtful people, 1686 01:27:51,309 --> 01:27:54,573 if they were sharing the propaganda, who else was sharing? 1687 01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:56,053 - Everyone falls for fake news. 1688 01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:57,489 I've fallen for fake news. 1689 01:27:57,576 --> 01:28:01,885 - Over the last 75 days, the top 20 1690 01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:05,062 demonstrably fake stories, 1691 01:28:05,149 --> 01:28:07,717 got more Facebook likes and shares 1692 01:28:07,804 --> 01:28:11,677 than the top 20 campaign stories from mainstream media. 1693 01:28:11,764 --> 01:28:15,855 - It laid the groundwork for Sanders supporters 1694 01:28:15,942 --> 01:28:17,683 to say I've had it. 1695 01:28:17,770 --> 01:28:19,468 - They actually have won over a segment 1696 01:28:19,555 --> 01:28:22,427 of the U.S. audience like Russia's never won over before. 1697 01:28:22,514 --> 01:28:24,211 A white nationalists rally 1698 01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:26,562 in Charlottesville, Virginia, where they chanted. 1699 01:28:31,349 --> 01:28:36,006 - Recent polling indicates that 49% of Republican voters, 1700 01:28:36,093 --> 01:28:38,356 I'm sad to say, believe that, 1701 01:28:38,443 --> 01:28:40,924 that Putin and that Russia are either 1702 01:28:41,011 --> 01:28:44,014 an ally or a friendly nation. 1703 01:28:44,101 --> 01:28:47,626 - The question is who helped guide the decisions 1704 01:28:47,713 --> 01:28:49,106 that the Russians were making, 1705 01:28:49,193 --> 01:28:50,542 what ads they may have bought. 1706 01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:52,457 What kinds of fake news 1707 01:28:52,544 --> 01:28:54,807 they thought would be most effective. 1708 01:28:54,894 --> 01:28:56,853 - If you know the personality 1709 01:28:56,940 --> 01:28:58,811 of the people you're targeting, 1710 01:28:58,898 --> 01:29:01,945 you can nuance your messaging to resonate more effectively 1711 01:29:02,032 --> 01:29:03,990 with those key audience groups. 1712 01:29:04,077 --> 01:29:07,080 This information is quite helpful to a campaign manager. 1713 01:29:08,125 --> 01:29:10,040 - Cambridge Analytica popped up 1714 01:29:10,127 --> 01:29:13,783 growing out of an experiment, behavioral science experiment 1715 01:29:13,870 --> 01:29:16,960 at Cambridge University to see whether they could 1716 01:29:17,047 --> 01:29:21,704 analyze large numbers of people using Facebook 1717 01:29:21,791 --> 01:29:25,925 because people are spilling their feelings to their friends, 1718 01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:28,101 hundreds of millions of people in their pool. 1719 01:29:28,188 --> 01:29:29,842 - We have somewhere close to 1720 01:29:29,929 --> 01:29:32,062 four or five thousand data points on every adult 1721 01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:33,716 in the United States. 1722 01:29:33,803 --> 01:29:35,631 We can see where these people are on the map. 1723 01:29:35,718 --> 01:29:38,938 - They were able to take that to micro segment. 1724 01:29:39,025 --> 01:29:42,072 You belong to a group of 12 like-minded people 1725 01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,117 exactly like you who are interested 1726 01:29:44,204 --> 01:29:46,337 in the same things around the country. 1727 01:29:46,424 --> 01:29:48,774 - These are people who are definitely going 1728 01:29:48,861 --> 01:29:51,473 to vote but they need moving from the center 1729 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,213 a little bit more towards the right. 1730 01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:55,215 - You're not supposed to go into Facebook 1731 01:29:55,302 --> 01:29:58,436 and harvest that kind of information. 1732 01:29:58,523 --> 01:30:02,440 Cambridge Analytica got its Facebook data 1733 01:30:02,527 --> 01:30:04,486 in a sort of quasi-legal way. 1734 01:30:04,573 --> 01:30:07,010 - We can look at what issue they care about. 1735 01:30:07,097 --> 01:30:08,838 Gun rights I've selected. 1736 01:30:08,925 --> 01:30:11,536 That narrows the field slightly more and now we know 1737 01:30:11,623 --> 01:30:13,973 that we need a message on gun rights. 1738 01:30:14,060 --> 01:30:15,975 It needs to be a persuasion message 1739 01:30:16,062 --> 01:30:17,586 and it needs to be nuanced 1740 01:30:17,673 --> 01:30:19,501 according to the certain personality 1741 01:30:19,588 --> 01:30:21,198 that we're interested in. 1742 01:30:21,285 --> 01:30:23,940 - They were very involved in the Brexit vote. 1743 01:30:25,550 --> 01:30:28,031 - We saw the Russian bot armies, the trolls, 1744 01:30:28,118 --> 01:30:30,773 have a very pro Brexit message. 1745 01:30:30,860 --> 01:30:33,645 - There have been allegations that Cambridge Analytica 1746 01:30:33,732 --> 01:30:38,171 supported it through a small office above a pizza shop, 1747 01:30:38,258 --> 01:30:42,045 which is not exactly the kind of place you think 1748 01:30:42,132 --> 01:30:45,396 would be the center for international intrigue 1749 01:30:45,483 --> 01:30:46,876 unless it was just a cutout 1750 01:30:46,963 --> 01:30:49,966 for somebody much more consequential behind it. 1751 01:30:51,358 --> 01:30:54,623 - [Craig] Cambridge Analytics is owned by SCL. 1752 01:30:54,710 --> 01:30:58,540 - A larger and much more sinister global election 1753 01:30:58,627 --> 01:31:03,196 tampering operation using big data and technology. 1754 01:31:03,283 --> 01:31:06,112 - SCL is in turn owned by shell companies 1755 01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:08,941 that you can trace back to Dmitry Firtash 1756 01:31:09,899 --> 01:31:12,205 who again is tied to Mogilevich. 1757 01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:18,516 That would complete the entire string 1758 01:31:18,603 --> 01:31:21,650 and show crime boss and Mogilevich involved 1759 01:31:21,737 --> 01:31:25,088 starting out with pure and simple money laundering in 1984 1760 01:31:25,175 --> 01:31:28,134 with Trump properties going forward more than 32 years 1761 01:31:28,221 --> 01:31:31,747 to the election in which this data mining firm 1762 01:31:31,834 --> 01:31:33,879 Cambridge Analytica is playing a very, very big role 1763 01:31:33,966 --> 01:31:36,186 in the Trump campaign and helping him win. 1764 01:31:43,715 --> 01:31:46,196 - Of the two candidates left in this election, 1765 01:31:46,283 --> 01:31:48,590 one of them is using these technologies 1766 01:31:48,677 --> 01:31:50,548 and it's gonna be very interesting to see 1767 01:31:50,635 --> 01:31:53,595 how they impact the next several weeks. 1768 01:31:53,682 --> 01:31:55,335 Thank you. 1769 01:31:55,422 --> 01:31:56,293 - [Nina] One of the big investors in Cambridge Analytica 1770 01:31:56,380 --> 01:31:57,947 is Robert Mercer. 1771 01:32:02,995 --> 01:32:05,215 He's a hedge fund billionaire. 1772 01:32:32,590 --> 01:32:36,028 - Cyber scientists on the outside noticed this server 1773 01:32:36,115 --> 01:32:38,465 that was configured in a very unusual way 1774 01:32:38,553 --> 01:32:42,731 that was a direct link essentially from a Russian bank, 1775 01:32:42,818 --> 01:32:45,342 Alfa bank, and Trump Tower. 1776 01:32:48,258 --> 01:32:50,826 - [Man] That would obviously explain 1777 01:32:50,913 --> 01:32:53,132 a major path of communications. 1778 01:32:53,219 --> 01:32:54,743 - Trump Tower. 1779 01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:57,049 They seemed to have premonitions of things 1780 01:32:57,136 --> 01:32:59,138 that were gonna happen that in fact did happen. 1781 01:32:59,225 --> 01:33:01,706 Roger Stone in August saying it would be my turn 1782 01:33:01,793 --> 01:33:04,013 at the barrel while he simultaneously 1783 01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,276 involved with Wikileaks. 1784 01:33:06,363 --> 01:33:11,150 - I actually have communicated with Assange. 1785 01:33:11,237 --> 01:33:13,152 I believe the next crunch of documents 1786 01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:16,286 pertain to the Clinton Foundation 1787 01:33:16,373 --> 01:33:19,681 but there's no telling what the October surprise may be. 1788 01:33:19,768 --> 01:33:23,772 - October 7, 2016, three major things happened. 1789 01:33:23,859 --> 01:33:25,382 The Department of Homeland Security 1790 01:33:25,469 --> 01:33:27,253 and the Director of National Intelligence 1791 01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:30,213 made a public statement and said the government hacking 1792 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,171 during the 2016 election was none other 1793 01:33:32,258 --> 01:33:34,913 than the Russian Federation and that this decision 1794 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,351 could have only been made by Vladimir Putin. 1795 01:33:38,438 --> 01:33:41,659 On the same day the Access Hollywood tapes were revealed. 1796 01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:48,492 Those two things. 1797 01:33:48,579 --> 01:33:49,972 A third thing happened. 1798 01:33:50,059 --> 01:33:51,626 John Podesta's emails were released. 1799 01:33:53,149 --> 01:33:55,412 - Wikileaks posted more than 2,000 additional emails 1800 01:33:55,499 --> 01:33:58,589 from Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta. 1801 01:33:58,676 --> 01:34:00,504 - I never heard from the FBI 1802 01:34:00,591 --> 01:34:02,462 until two days after my emails started getting released. 1803 01:34:02,549 --> 01:34:03,986 They said you may not be aware of this 1804 01:34:04,073 --> 01:34:05,509 but your emails have been hacked. 1805 01:34:05,596 --> 01:34:07,424 I said, yes, I've been watching it for 48 hours 1806 01:34:07,511 --> 01:34:11,689 on every cable story, you know, in the country. 1807 01:34:11,776 --> 01:34:14,170 That was actually the last time I talked to the FBI. 1808 01:34:14,257 --> 01:34:16,738 - There was a lot more that was coming out 1809 01:34:16,825 --> 01:34:19,871 that we were aware of that we couldn't get the press 1810 01:34:19,958 --> 01:34:21,612 to pay any attention to. 1811 01:34:21,699 --> 01:34:24,659 I tried in my speeches and then culminating 1812 01:34:24,746 --> 01:34:25,964 in the third debate. 1813 01:34:26,051 --> 01:34:28,967 - Look, from everything I see 1814 01:34:29,054 --> 01:34:32,710 has no respect for this person. 1815 01:34:32,797 --> 01:34:34,277 - Well, that's because he'd rather 1816 01:34:34,364 --> 01:34:36,366 have a puppet as president. - No puppet. 1817 01:34:36,453 --> 01:34:37,889 No puppet. 1818 01:34:37,976 --> 01:34:38,847 - United States and it's pretty clear. 1819 01:34:38,934 --> 01:34:40,370 - You're the puppet. 1820 01:34:40,457 --> 01:34:41,458 - It's pretty clear you won't admit-- 1821 01:34:41,545 --> 01:34:42,372 - [Donald] No you won't-- 1822 01:34:42,459 --> 01:34:44,243 - That the Russians have engaged 1823 01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:46,028 in cyber-attacks against the United States of America. 1824 01:34:46,115 --> 01:34:50,641 That you encouraged espionage against our people. 1825 01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:54,340 That you are willing to spout the Putin line, 1826 01:34:54,427 --> 01:34:57,474 sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, 1827 01:34:57,561 --> 01:34:59,781 do whatever he wants to do. 1828 01:34:59,868 --> 01:35:02,348 - We went into election day believing that we had 1829 01:35:02,435 --> 01:35:05,134 a lead in the popular vote which proved to be true. 1830 01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,137 Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, 1831 01:35:08,224 --> 01:35:10,269 we felt like we had a lead in all those states 1832 01:35:10,356 --> 01:35:12,184 and that proved to be not true 1833 01:35:12,271 --> 01:35:15,361 so he won by a combined total in those three states 1834 01:35:15,448 --> 01:35:17,450 of 70,000 votes and gave him the presidency. 1835 01:35:26,503 --> 01:35:27,983 - Sorry to keep you waiting. 1836 01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:29,724 Complicated business. 1837 01:35:49,221 --> 01:35:50,701 - During the transition, 1838 01:35:50,788 --> 01:35:54,444 Jared Kushner met with a sanctioned Russian bank. 1839 01:35:54,531 --> 01:35:55,967 - Gorkov, the head of that bank, 1840 01:35:56,054 --> 01:35:58,056 got his training not in the banker's academy. 1841 01:35:58,143 --> 01:36:00,232 He's a trained KGB agent. 1842 01:36:01,625 --> 01:36:03,409 And its offices all around the world 1843 01:36:03,496 --> 01:36:05,977 are always understood to be providing cover 1844 01:36:06,064 --> 01:36:07,979 for Russian intelligence operations. 1845 01:36:08,066 --> 01:36:10,547 - What did you really speak to Jared Kushner about 1846 01:36:10,634 --> 01:36:13,158 in New York when you met him in December? 1847 01:36:13,245 --> 01:36:15,595 - [Reporter] The Russian bank said they talked business. 1848 01:36:15,682 --> 01:36:19,425 White House says they talked future U.S./Russia relations. 1849 01:36:19,512 --> 01:36:21,558 - If he was doing this for business purposes 1850 01:36:21,645 --> 01:36:23,125 it would be a violation of the law. 1851 01:36:23,212 --> 01:36:25,431 If he was doing this for political purposes 1852 01:36:25,518 --> 01:36:27,216 there are serious questions about whether he 1853 01:36:27,303 --> 01:36:29,566 or anyone on the campaign were working with Russians 1854 01:36:29,653 --> 01:36:31,220 during the interference campaign. 1855 01:36:31,307 --> 01:36:33,439 - The crown jewel for any intelligence agency 1856 01:36:33,526 --> 01:36:36,573 is to recruit an asset inside 1857 01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:38,531 your adversary's intelligence agency 1858 01:36:40,490 --> 01:36:42,535 because that person can of course report 1859 01:36:42,622 --> 01:36:45,756 on intelligence operations against your own country. 1860 01:36:45,843 --> 01:36:48,367 - For Donald Trump to put Michael Flynn 1861 01:36:48,454 --> 01:36:50,369 in the role of National Security Advisor 1862 01:36:50,456 --> 01:36:53,895 shows that they were extremely incompetent 1863 01:36:53,982 --> 01:36:56,680 in their vetting of an individual who was working 1864 01:36:56,767 --> 01:36:59,901 as an unregistered foreign agent on behalf of Turkey. 1865 01:36:59,988 --> 01:37:03,295 Who had extensive ties to a foreign adversary in Russia 1866 01:37:03,382 --> 01:37:06,603 and wasn't disclosing those ties or that was one 1867 01:37:06,690 --> 01:37:10,476 of his highest qualifications and Donald Trump liked that. 1868 01:37:10,563 --> 01:37:15,307 - I was invited to take my old job as CIA director back. 1869 01:37:15,394 --> 01:37:17,962 And I learned that I would have had to report 1870 01:37:18,049 --> 01:37:20,399 to the president through Mike Flynn. 1871 01:37:20,486 --> 01:37:22,706 They pressed me to go to a particular meeting 1872 01:37:22,793 --> 01:37:25,230 where there were several Turks present 1873 01:37:25,317 --> 01:37:27,798 and it was clear they were thinking seriously 1874 01:37:27,885 --> 01:37:31,454 about taking him into custody Gulan in Western Pennsylvania 1875 01:37:31,541 --> 01:37:34,022 which would have been completely illegal under American law. 1876 01:37:34,109 --> 01:37:36,067 I told them that and left. 1877 01:37:38,591 --> 01:37:41,594 I decided I did not want to report through Mike 1878 01:37:41,681 --> 01:37:44,728 and so I turned down the offer. 1879 01:37:44,815 --> 01:37:46,251 - President-elect Donald Trump 1880 01:37:46,338 --> 01:37:48,210 sent out an email announcing his pick 1881 01:37:48,297 --> 01:37:49,820 for Secretary of State. 1882 01:37:49,907 --> 01:37:52,518 Exxon Mobil chairman and CEO Rex Tillerson, 1883 01:37:52,605 --> 01:37:55,826 despite concerns over his close ties to Russia. 1884 01:37:57,045 --> 01:37:58,524 - I mean, this is a guy who was given 1885 01:37:58,611 --> 01:38:01,527 a friendship award by Vladimir Putin. 1886 01:38:01,614 --> 01:38:03,616 - I have a very close relationship with him 1887 01:38:03,703 --> 01:38:06,445 which dates back almost 15 years now. 1888 01:38:06,532 --> 01:38:09,666 - I believe that Rex Tillerson was chosen by Donald Trump 1889 01:38:09,753 --> 01:38:11,711 for primarily one reason. 1890 01:38:11,798 --> 01:38:16,064 He would not stand in the way of Donald Trump's 1891 01:38:16,151 --> 01:38:19,937 prevailing policy interests which is to align 1892 01:38:20,024 --> 01:38:23,767 the United States with Vladimir Putin's regime. 1893 01:38:23,854 --> 01:38:26,509 And I think that's exactly what he's done. 1894 01:38:26,596 --> 01:38:27,902 He's facilitated it. 1895 01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:32,080 - Putin and Rex Tillerson had been trying to put together 1896 01:38:32,167 --> 01:38:36,606 a 500 billion dollar Arctic Exploration deal. 1897 01:38:36,693 --> 01:38:39,130 - Exxon Mobil has won a highly coveted contract 1898 01:38:39,217 --> 01:38:40,784 with Russia's Rozneft. 1899 01:38:40,871 --> 01:38:43,134 - You know, my philosophy is to make money. 1900 01:38:43,221 --> 01:38:46,964 And so if I can drill and make money 1901 01:38:47,051 --> 01:38:48,792 then that's what I want to do. 1902 01:38:51,534 --> 01:38:54,145 - But it had been put on hold by the Obama Administration 1903 01:38:54,232 --> 01:38:55,886 when the sanctions were imposed. 1904 01:38:57,627 --> 01:38:59,672 - One of the fascinating things in that dossier, 1905 01:38:59,759 --> 01:39:01,500 Steele sources told him that Rozneft, 1906 01:39:01,587 --> 01:39:03,589 big Russian oil company owned by the state, 1907 01:39:03,676 --> 01:39:06,201 that 19% of it was gonna be sold off. 1908 01:39:06,288 --> 01:39:08,507 And that there'd be money for people who were able to get. 1909 01:39:08,594 --> 01:39:09,856 U.S. sanctions removed. 1910 01:39:14,774 --> 01:39:19,779 Well, sure enough in December that percentage of Rozneft 1911 01:39:21,085 --> 01:39:23,783 was sold off in a method by which involved Shell companies 1912 01:39:23,870 --> 01:39:26,134 in the Grand Caymans which are nontransparent 1913 01:39:26,221 --> 01:39:27,787 so which you can't penetrate. 1914 01:39:29,398 --> 01:39:31,966 - Only someone in the highest echelons 1915 01:39:32,053 --> 01:39:34,838 of Rozneft would have access to that information. 1916 01:39:38,798 --> 01:39:41,497 - And obviously somebody talking to Chris Steele 1917 01:39:41,584 --> 01:39:45,153 knew a lot about it many months before it happened. 1918 01:39:49,461 --> 01:39:51,594 - The Russian hand in these influence efforts, 1919 01:39:51,681 --> 01:39:52,769 ultimately they'll try and hide it 1920 01:39:52,856 --> 01:39:54,423 and they do it with two methods, 1921 01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:57,121 putting them in jail or killing people off. 1922 01:39:57,208 --> 01:39:59,732 [gun firing] 1923 01:39:59,819 --> 01:40:02,126 - Arrests in which people were dragged out 1924 01:40:02,213 --> 01:40:04,607 had black bags put over their heads. 1925 01:40:04,694 --> 01:40:06,391 Charged for treason. 1926 01:40:06,478 --> 01:40:09,568 These people may have been Chris Steele sources 1927 01:40:09,655 --> 01:40:12,745 or Russian intelligence may have suspected that they were. 1928 01:40:14,182 --> 01:40:17,011 The day after Christmas, General Oleg Erovenkin, 1929 01:40:17,098 --> 01:40:21,406 who was the Chief of Staff of Rozneft was assassinated 1930 01:40:21,493 --> 01:40:24,540 in the back of a car in the center of Moscow. 1931 01:40:24,627 --> 01:40:27,238 - [Clint] The head of RT English mysterious death 1932 01:40:27,325 --> 01:40:28,631 in Washington, D.C. 1933 01:40:30,415 --> 01:40:32,113 A Russian diplomat stationed here in New York City 1934 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,245 had actually died on election day. 1935 01:40:36,117 --> 01:40:38,728 - You've got obvious interests on the part of the Russians. 1936 01:40:38,815 --> 01:40:40,773 And of course on the other side of the equation 1937 01:40:40,860 --> 01:40:42,775 you have all of these contacts going back to Russia, 1938 01:40:42,862 --> 01:40:44,995 whether it's Roger Stone, whether it's Flynn. 1939 01:40:45,082 --> 01:40:46,431 Whether it's any of these folks, 1940 01:40:46,518 --> 01:40:48,216 there is simply way too much smoke 1941 01:40:48,303 --> 01:40:50,696 for there to be absolutely no fire whatsoever. 1942 01:40:50,783 --> 01:40:53,699 [light intense music] 1943 01:41:07,061 --> 01:41:11,326 - That I forget how many tentacles this has. [laughs] 1944 01:41:11,413 --> 01:41:15,721 It's just sort of anyone of these is a massive story. 1945 01:41:23,642 --> 01:41:26,558 It's unrealistic to think it's limited to what we know now. 1946 01:41:26,645 --> 01:41:29,692 Rather than look at this as one isolated money laundering 1947 01:41:29,779 --> 01:41:33,609 after another or one criminal appearing after another. 1948 01:41:33,696 --> 01:41:34,827 I think it's much more than that 1949 01:41:34,914 --> 01:41:37,395 and what you have is probably 1950 01:41:37,482 --> 01:41:40,920 the biggest intelligence breach in the history of the world. 1951 01:41:41,007 --> 01:41:44,489 - So to be clear Mr. Trump has no financial relationships 1952 01:41:44,576 --> 01:41:46,274 with any Russian oligarchs? 1953 01:41:46,361 --> 01:41:47,318 - That that's what he said. 1954 01:41:47,405 --> 01:41:48,276 I didn't. 1955 01:41:48,363 --> 01:41:49,799 That's what I said. 1956 01:41:49,886 --> 01:41:51,148 That's obviously what our position is. 1957 01:42:06,816 --> 01:42:08,470 - Do you solemnly swear. 1958 01:42:08,557 --> 01:42:11,864 - The office of President of the United States. 1959 01:42:11,951 --> 01:42:14,998 [intense somber music] 1960 01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:44,114 - The president is, I believe, a puppet of Vladimir Putin. 1961 01:42:45,681 --> 01:42:49,075 That is the mere challenge that we face as Americans. 1962 01:42:50,294 --> 01:42:53,732 - He has tried to deliver for Russia. 1963 01:42:53,819 --> 01:42:56,866 He wanted to take off sanctions immediately. 1964 01:42:56,953 --> 01:42:59,825 - I was in the administration for the first five weeks 1965 01:42:59,912 --> 01:43:01,914 of Trump where, among other things, 1966 01:43:02,001 --> 01:43:04,221 I was responsible for the Russia sanctions. 1967 01:43:04,308 --> 01:43:06,658 And I'm one of the people who was worried 1968 01:43:06,745 --> 01:43:08,965 that the Trump Administration would suddenly 1969 01:43:09,052 --> 01:43:10,358 lift the sanctions unilaterally. 1970 01:43:10,445 --> 01:43:11,968 And I stand by it now. 1971 01:43:15,363 --> 01:43:16,842 - You don't have to have been a lawyer. 1972 01:43:16,929 --> 01:43:18,757 You don't have to have been in a cover-up 1973 01:43:18,844 --> 01:43:21,978 to see when somebody is acting like they're covering up. 1974 01:43:22,065 --> 01:43:24,937 This man is clearly inconspicuously doing so. 1975 01:43:28,941 --> 01:43:32,423 - I don't know how a president can handle this situation 1976 01:43:32,510 --> 01:43:34,295 worse than President Trump is now. 1977 01:43:35,731 --> 01:43:37,646 His actions at the G20, 1978 01:43:37,733 --> 01:43:40,866 his talk of maybe getting a cyber partnership. 1979 01:43:44,087 --> 01:43:46,916 You don't go to somebody who just punched you in the face 1980 01:43:47,003 --> 01:43:48,352 and then offer them a favor. 1981 01:43:54,967 --> 01:43:56,665 - Trump has to have known he was compromised. 1982 01:43:56,752 --> 01:43:58,884 He's got to know the eyes of the world are on him. 1983 01:43:58,971 --> 01:44:02,018 And suddenly all these forces will be out to expose him. 1984 01:44:02,105 --> 01:44:04,934 I cannot imagine living with that every day, you know. 1985 01:44:08,416 --> 01:44:12,463 - The Trump campaign's biggest potential exposure 1986 01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:14,900 is gonna be in their financial dealings. 1987 01:44:14,987 --> 01:44:18,121 It's very hard to cover up money trails. 1988 01:44:19,775 --> 01:44:23,126 The other one is obstruction of justice. 1989 01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:25,607 - Collusion is a media shorthand 1990 01:44:25,694 --> 01:44:28,131 for could be aiding and abetting. 1991 01:44:28,218 --> 01:44:29,828 Conspiracy. 1992 01:44:29,915 --> 01:44:32,918 It could be aid and comfort which is treason. 1993 01:44:34,964 --> 01:44:38,968 - The Russia story is a total fabrication. 1994 01:44:39,055 --> 01:44:41,884 What the prosecutors should be looking at 1995 01:44:41,971 --> 01:44:45,670 are Hillary Clinton's 33,000 deleted emails. 1996 01:44:49,500 --> 01:44:50,501 - Lock her up! 1997 01:44:50,588 --> 01:44:52,024 Lock her up! 1998 01:44:52,111 --> 01:44:53,243 Lock her up! 1999 01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:54,679 Lock her up! 2000 01:44:54,766 --> 01:44:57,334 [crowd yelling] 2001 01:44:59,858 --> 01:45:00,859 Lock her up! 2002 01:45:00,946 --> 01:45:02,296 Lock her up! 2003 01:45:02,383 --> 01:45:03,819 Lock her up! 2004 01:45:03,906 --> 01:45:05,037 Lock her up! 2005 01:45:05,124 --> 01:45:06,517 Lock her up! 2006 01:45:06,604 --> 01:45:07,605 Lock her up! 2007 01:45:10,739 --> 01:45:12,523 - It is ongoing. 2008 01:45:12,610 --> 01:45:16,353 The Russians efforts here are continuing as we speak. 2009 01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:17,789 - We've done zero. 2010 01:45:17,876 --> 01:45:20,966 Absolutely nothing to protect us 2011 01:45:21,053 --> 01:45:24,579 from a future cyber-attack with respect to any election. 2012 01:45:24,666 --> 01:45:25,667 Zero. 2013 01:45:25,754 --> 01:45:27,451 We haven't done anything. 2014 01:45:27,538 --> 01:45:29,105 - As long as people can do things without penalty 2015 01:45:29,192 --> 01:45:31,847 they're going to continue to do them. 2016 01:45:31,934 --> 01:45:33,718 - We all have a stake because it may have been 2017 01:45:33,805 --> 01:45:35,633 the Democrats and me this time. 2018 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,288 It can be the Republicans and their candidate next time. 2019 01:45:38,375 --> 01:45:40,464 - Every single national security official we've talked to 2020 01:45:40,551 --> 01:45:42,640 has said they're coming back. 2021 01:45:42,727 --> 01:45:44,163 We have to be ready for that. 2022 01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:45,730 - And if the people don't demand that. 2023 01:45:45,817 --> 01:45:48,037 If they don't demand that our sovereignty 2024 01:45:48,124 --> 01:45:51,345 needs to be defended, our representatives in Congress 2025 01:45:51,432 --> 01:45:53,956 are gonna kind of look the other way and move on. 2026 01:45:54,043 --> 01:45:57,046 - What's at stake is truth. 2027 01:45:57,133 --> 01:46:01,964 What's at stake is government that's accountable to us. 2028 01:46:02,051 --> 01:46:04,096 And the cause of liberty 2029 01:46:04,183 --> 01:46:08,144 at the most profound level possible. 2030 01:46:08,231 --> 01:46:10,451 - We owe it to the people who have fought for 2031 01:46:10,538 --> 01:46:12,714 and sacrificed for this democracy 2032 01:46:12,801 --> 01:46:15,020 and to be guardians of it and make sure 2033 01:46:15,107 --> 01:46:17,458 that we always have free and fair elections. 2034 01:46:17,545 --> 01:46:20,156 [ominous music] 2035 01:46:24,856 --> 01:46:28,207 [upbeat electro music] 156666

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