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[people chattering]
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- Russians have
learned that there
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is an asymmetry in
conventional warfare.
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The Russian military
does not match
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that of the United
States by far.
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How do you then balance
out the asymmetry?
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One way to do that is to invest
in much cheaper measures.
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These nonconventional
active measures
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to try to weaken
western institutions,
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undermine western democracies
versus sending in the tanks.
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- Putin realizes that if
we're divided as a nation
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we cannot protect ourselves
from threats within and without.
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- From the Russian
point of view,
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political warfare is just
part of the art of war.
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- What they're driving
at over the longer term
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is to watch democracy
crumble from the inside out.
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- I'm sitting with
him at dinner.
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I told him I'd been
at the memorial
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of the siege of Leningrad.
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He said I'll tell you a story.
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He said my father was
one of those people
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who was on the front lines.
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And had gotten 24
hours off to go home.
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As he was walking down the
street to his apartment,
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he saw a big pile of bodies
which was not at all uncommon.
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He saw a leg sticking out
and a shoe on the foot
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and he recognized that
as being his wife.
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So he stopped and he screamed
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and said, well, that's my wife.
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That's my wife.
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I want my wife.
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The body collectors told him
to leave and he kept demanding.
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At this point he's pulling
his wife from under the pile.
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He took her to their apartment
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and nursed her back to health.
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And then after the war she
gave birth to Vladimir Putin.
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Putin sees himself as
literally pulling the body
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of Russia out of the pile,
the dust bin of history.
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You know, we are
going to revive you.
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You are not dead.
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And I will take care of you.
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I mean, that is the mindset.
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- I think his ambitions always
were to be the president
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and then gather all the
instruments of power
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into the presidency.
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- His devotion to reasserting
Russia's greatness
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is certainly in
his self-interest
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because he wants to be the czar.
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He wants to be the
richest man in the world
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and he wants to settle scores.
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- He made his way
up through the KGB.
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- His role in the KGB
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was to support Russian
intelligence officers
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living under assumed identities
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under deep cover inside
the United States
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and developing active measures
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to impact the policies
of the United States.
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- The KGB was power.
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If you said that you were
with the KGB, doors were open.
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People would stand aside.
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- In 1991 when the
Soviet Union collapsed,
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every republic that
emerged from the debris
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of the Soviet Union
agreed at the time
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to recognize the republics in
their then existing borders.
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- Putin, like many Russians,
feels that the dissolution,
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the dissolving of
the Soviet Union
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was a horrific thing because
it made the Russian people
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and Russia itself smaller.
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And the Americans are
celebrating all of this.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- I think he's dedicated
to building it back up.
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[downcast piano music]
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- The first time I met
him in the spring of 1991,
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he was the deputy
mayor of St. Petersburg
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working for the mayor whose
name was Anatoly Sobchak.
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Sobchak was this charismatic
western leaning guy
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allied with Boris Yeltsin.
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His deputy was the
exact opposite of that.
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Non-descript, grave bureaucrat.
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A very soft spoken.
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Had you asked me back then
to name a thousand people
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that might be the next
president of Russia
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he would not have made my list.
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- He supported Mayor Sobchak
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but he was also organizing
this incredible network
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of former KGB foreign economic
interest and local interest.
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- In the 1990's St.
Petersburg was known
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for organized crime
and corruption.
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State institutions
were partnering
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with Kremlin
organizations to rip off
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as much as they could
as fast as they could.
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- Putin was a pretty good fixer.
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He could make stuff happen.
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He knew how to work the system.
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- [Heather] Mr. Putin
was able as deputy mayor
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to be the focal point of all
of these different networks
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as they came together.
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- He was made FSB director.
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The FSB is responsible
for internal spying.
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These are the guys who
have the most funding,
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the most resources.
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- He learned which
served him in good stead
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how to maneuver politically.
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- That became his primary goal.
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Power.
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The FSB was simply a ladder.
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- Almost immediately after the
breakup of the Soviet Union,
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these oligarchs were
able to take over
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state owned enterprises at
bargain basement prices.
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It turned some of
these individuals into
multi-millionaires
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or even billionaires
almost overnight.
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- Under Yeltsin, the oligarchs
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became very powerful
and very independent.
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And the power of the
state was crumbling.
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The end of the Yeltsin
years he obtained
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almost sort of a buffoonish
type of personality.
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You know, a drunk.
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A little bit out of control.
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- Yeltsin was nervous and
he chose to go with a guy
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that he thought would protect
his family and their assets.
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That's, I think, the
sole purpose why Putin
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was selected to then
run for president.
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- Followed by the bombings
of the apartment houses.
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- There were a series of
terrorist attacks in 1999.
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[somber piano music]
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They found evidence of the FSB
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having been there
and set that all up.
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- I know what has been alleged.
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I find the evidence
compelling and I know
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those terrorist attacks
helped Vladimir Putin
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win the election.
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I'm not ready to believe yet
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and maybe that's just my
idealism getting in the way
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of my analytic side that
the Russian government
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would kill its own civilians
to elect Putin president.
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- The apartment bombings
were KGB operations
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using a type of explosive
that's only made
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in a KGB facility.
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- Oh, sure.
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It was very clever
and the Russian people
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began to look for a leader.
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It's not the first
time in history.
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You can compare
it in some degree
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to the 1930's and the
rise of Adolph Hitler.
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- With respect to democracy,
I think it's pretty clear
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from the very get go he
feared independent actors.
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[speaking in foreign language]
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- Putin started forcing
the independent media
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to knuckle under,
putting in state control,
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turning it into
propaganda outfits.
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- Started arresting people who
had different points of view.
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[men yelling]
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- Then he starts going after
independent journalists.
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They start ending up dead.
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Assassinated.
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- The most prominent
journalist in Russia,
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Anna Politkovskaya was
murdered on Putin's birthday.
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- Putin brought the
oligarchs to heel.
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- A number of them were
forced to leave the country
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Some were killed in
mysterious fashions.
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Those who remained are
basically lapdogs of his.
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- Putin was letting
everyone know
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that this period of
everybody getting to do
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their own thing
was very much over.
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- And then he brought
his most trusted friends
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and confidantes from the
intelligence services
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into the key positions,
controlling all
those businesses.
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- Vladimir Putin and his
oligarchs used money,
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essentially stolen from
the Russian people.
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- If you're one of
these big kleptocrats,
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getting your stolen proceeds
into a rule of law system
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is one of your
highest priorities.
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- Once that money is
laundered, they have access
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to western banks and they
can do whatever they want.
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- Semion Mogilevich was the
first big organized crime figure
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in Russia who figured out how
to launder massive amounts
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out of Russia and the
former Soviet Union.
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- Semion Mogilevich is worth
about 10 billion dollars
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according to FBI reports.
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He's considered the
money laundering genius.
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He's sometimes
called the brainy don
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'cause he has a
economics degree.
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- [Scott] The most important
of the Russian crime bosses.
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The man who was for years
on the 10 Most Wanted list
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in the United States.
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- [Jonathan] He still lives
happily in Moscow today.
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- [Reporter] In Russia he
still gets the VIP treatment
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and is rarely without a
bodyguard who chauffeurs him
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and his 200,000 pound armor
plated bomb proof limousine.
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- [Reporter] Why did
you suss out companies
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in the Channel Islands?
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- The problem was that I
didn't know any other way.
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Well, they taught us
geography at school.
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I was sick that day.
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- The Russian mafia
is an adjunct of the
Russian government.
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- I've described it as
going from organized crime
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under the Soviets to
disorganized crime
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under Yeltsin to organized
crime again under Putin.
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- His networks recycle back
to Mr. Putin's inner circle
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and they continue to help
maintain Mr. Putin's power.
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- To the point where
today Putin may well be
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the wealthiest man on
the face of the planet.
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- Yeah. [laughs]
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Yeah.
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Everything I know that's
interesting I can't tell you.
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Now let me try to think of
a way to go at 30,000 feet.
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Yeah, I know where
you're going with this
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'cause I know we're gonna talk
about Trump in a few minutes.
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[upbeat electro music]
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- In the 70's Donald
Trump is a scion
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of one of the biggest
landowners along the east coast.
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- He played monopoly.
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Yes, indeed.
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More than monopoly, he
played with building blocks.
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Always with building blocks.
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- He has huge ambitions,
huge ego as we know.
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- Because not everybody is
meant to be a business person.
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They'll ruin their lives.
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I mean they'll go and they'll,
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they'll put up their house and
they'll mortgage their cars
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and everything else they own.
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- And he is starting
to move into Manhattan.
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- Trump Tower was
structured in a way
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that made it a money
laundering paradox.
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- [Nina] Trump Tower became
one of the first buildings
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in New York where
Shell companies could
buy and sell condos
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without identifying yourself.
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- If you go back to the 80's,
Senator Henry Scoop Jackson
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got a bill through Congress
allowing the immigration
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of Soviet Jews into
the United States
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at a time when immigration
had been highly restrictive.
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- We'll honor the
right of a person
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to leave a country freely
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and return freely just as
clear as anything can be.
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- [Craig] The Russians
saw it as an opportunity
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to open their jails.
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That's when you see members
of Russian organized crime
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come to the United States
for the very, very first time
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and end up in Brighton Beach.
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- There were certain techniques
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for money management
and money movement
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that were prized above others.
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And these involved real estate.
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- It started off simply as
money laundering pure and simple
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and you had in 1984 for
example David Bogatin,
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who was a Russian
mobster, met with Trump.
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Trump Tower had just opened
the previous year and Bogatin,
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who had no legal way
of making that money,
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sat down with Trump
and bought five condos
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and the state
attorney general ruled
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that that was money laundering.
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Vyacheslav Ivankov,
who was very close
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to the great mastermind
of organized crime,
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Semion Mogilevich, and he
was sent to the United States
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to oversee the rise of
the Brighton Beach mafia.
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And when the feds were looking
for him they looked all over
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and they couldn't find
him anywhere in Brooklyn.
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Instead, he was
living in Trump Tower.
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- Donald Trump marries Ivana.
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The Czech Secret Police
takes note of this.
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The intelligence that they
gathered was that Donald Trump
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was being pressured,
not clear by whom,
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to run for president
as early as 1988.
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They thought that it would
be good for Czechoslovakia
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if this husband of a Czech
citizen became president
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of the United States.
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After his successes
in New York City
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he got into the Atlantic
city casino business.
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He goes big.
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Builds the Trump Taj Majal.
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- Which will be the largest
hotel casino in the world
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and I think it's gonna
be a tremendous success.
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- That turns out
to be his undoing.
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- In a town where
for the last 10 years
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no casino with
60,000 squared foot
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has ever been fully utilized.
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On what basis would someone
build one with 120,000 feet?
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He was destined to fail.
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- Trump Casino was
hit hard for having
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violated U.S. federal anti-money
laundering regulations.
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It suggests a culture of
willful disregard of the law.
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- [Nina] He basically
unravels financially.
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He also was unraveling
personally at this same time.
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His marriage was falling apart.
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- [Jonathan] By that
point he had filed,
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I believe it was
six bankruptcies.
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He had no way to move
forward professionally.
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He couldn't get a
bank loan anywhere.
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- There is a homeless
person sitting,
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sitting right outside
of Trump Tower.
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I remember my father pointing
to him and saying, you know,
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that guy has eight billion
dollars more than me
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because he was in such extreme
debt at that point, you know.
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- The Russians have a
particular type of mark
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whom they go after.
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They go after somebody who
has business resources,
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perhaps some shady morals
so that they're amenable
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to the bribery.
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Or perhaps are in a difficult
financial situation.
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And either has political
connections or aspirations.
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I've just described
Donald Trump.
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He was the perfect
mark for the Russians.
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- The Russians saved him.
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They rescued him.
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He would not have gotten back
in business without them.
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I think it's safe to say he
couldn't have run for president
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if he had just been a guy
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who was four billion
dollars in debt.
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When the Russian
mafia does something
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it's with Putin's permission
and it's serving his interests.
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- Have you ever
knowingly done business
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with what I like to
call organized crime?
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[audience laughing]
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Have they ever stopped by and--
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- Well, I really tried
to stay away from them
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as much as possible.
- Right.
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- Although I must say
I have met on occasion
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a few of those people.
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They happen to be
very nice people.
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You just don't want
to owe them money.
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- Yeah, I understand.
- Don't owe them money.
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- Simeon Mogelivich, he made
a decision to make the move
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on Trump after studying Trump's
2004 bankruptcy filings.
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Noticing that Trump had
lost his credit lines.
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They felt he would not be
in the position to say no.
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- The Russian real
estate firm Bayrock
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started leasing
space in Trump Tower.
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Putin needs to keep
track of his oligarchs
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and one way of keeping tabs is
knowing where their money is.
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Bayrock may well have
been a way of doing that.
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To me that's a turning point
because what we have here
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is a very serious
intelligence operation
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and it is in the
belly of the beast.
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It is in the home of the man
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who becomes president
of the United States.
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And it was operating there
for many, many years.
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- One of the key people putting
it together, Felix Sater.
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- A lieutenant in the
Mogilevich crime family.
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Very connected into the nexus
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between the Russian
criminal organizations
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and the Russian national
security organizations.
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- He became managing
director of Bayrock.
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He himself had been
convicted of two felonies.
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- Slashing a guy's
face at a bar.
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- Another was a pump
and dump stock scheme.
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But he ended up
cooperating with the feds
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and he started
providing information
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on sales of weapons to Al-Qaeda.
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Mogilevich, according
to FBI reports,
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was selling weapons to Al-Qaeda.
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That raised very
interesting questions
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'cause I don't think Felix
Sater would betray Mogilevich.
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He famously
threatened an investor
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with electrocuting
his testicles.
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Trump worked with Sater
for many, many years
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after it was revealed
that he was a criminal.
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He continued to work
for Trump and in fact
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had a business card saying
that he was a senior advisor
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to the Trump organization.
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- [Michael] There's
multiple photographs
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of the two of them together.
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He had an office in Trump tower.
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Trump was the public
face of Bayrock.
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- And yet when he was placed
under oath in a deposition
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and confronted about
Sater, he simply says, uh.
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- If he was sitting in
a the room right now,
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I really wouldn't know
what he looked like.
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- [Craig] Trump actually
personally asks Sater
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to escort his two children,
Ivanka and Donald Trump, Jr.,
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on a trip to Moscow and
showed them around the town.
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- He seems to be playing
a consistent role
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in assisting the Trump's
and tapping Russians
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or let's say post-Soviet money
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for developing
condominium units.
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No co-op board has to
review whoever is buying.
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It's safer than
putting it in the bank.
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[upbeat electro music]
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- The Sunny Isles development
is the Florida development
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that the Trumps own that
has been heavily populated
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by Russians who want
to launder their money.
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- [Craig] At least a
third of the condos
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in Sunny isles, Florida
have been sold to Russia.
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- Trump's Soho is one of the
promoters of the project.
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Alexsandr Mashkevich
has been described
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as Mogelivich's banker.
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The Trump Tower project
in Baku is located
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in the middle of a
post-industrial sledge pool.
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It's just sort of a joke
that they were building this.
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- Trump World Tower.
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I started looking
at who bought into
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and the very first name I
came across that was Russian
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was that of Eduard Nektalov.
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He had been indicted
for money laundering.
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He turned state's
evidence and was going
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to cooperate with the feds.
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He was murdered the next day.
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- The Toronto Tower.
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The source of funding
was the Vensheconobank,
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the two twin cash management
tools of the Kremlin.
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They go out and become
involved in projects
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usually because one
man, Vladimir Putin,
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tells them to do so.
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That would link this project
straight back to the Kremlin.
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- I think this is the
tip of the iceberg.
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There's been 1.3 trillion
dollars in flight capital
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since Putin's become president.
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There are over 30 Trump
Towers all over the world.
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That means there are
several thousand units.
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So many condos that journalists
like me have been unable
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to investigate because they
are in Shell companies.
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- Shell corporations
where law enforcement
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and the public and the
press can go and see
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what the name of
the corporation is
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but they can't find out
who's really behind it.
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What's really going on.
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Who's pulling the strings here.
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- So a 500 million dollar
condo can change hands
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three or four times a year
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and you've laundered 20
million dollars or so.
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We want to follow the money.
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00:23:08,691 --> 00:23:11,085
It's clear to me that
a huge amount of it
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comes from the Ukraine
Russian energy trade.
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- Vladimir Putin particularly
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has a strong feeling
about Ukraine.
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Ukraine was part of Russia
for many, many years.
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He feels that needs
to be restored.
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00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,018
- Putin has worked to undermine
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democracies across the globe.
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- [Woman] You had a couple of
people running for president.
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- Viktor Yanukovich
who appeared to be
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more interested in keeping
Ukraine aligned with Russia.
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Significant amounts of
money coming from Russia
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into the Yanukovich campaign.
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- His competitor on the
other side, Yuschenko,
436
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was a Ukrainian politician.
437
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A reputation of being clean
and fair and pro-western.
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00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:04,051
Yulia Tymoshenko entered
the Yushenko campaign.
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00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:05,792
She was a politician.
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00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,620
- Tymoshenko, in my experience,
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she was by the far the
most effective minister
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in the Ukrainian cabinet.
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00:24:11,754 --> 00:24:14,453
- Well, I was working for
Senator McCain in 2004.
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And we visited.
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00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:17,978
We met with Yuschenko.
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00:24:18,065 --> 00:24:21,024
They just said, I'm afraid
they're gonna try to kill him.
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00:24:21,111 --> 00:24:22,635
Within a matter of months
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00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:24,550
he had been poisoned
and almost was killed.
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- A disfiguring poisoning.
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It destroyed his looks.
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Scarred his face.
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- Quite convinced it
was a KGB operation.
453
00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:38,738
- He was off the campaign
trail for about four weeks.
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It also had a
second effect, too,
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was it really
hardened his resolve.
456
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:03,153
- And not in the
Soviet Union republic.
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00:25:05,068 --> 00:25:06,722
- [Steven] During the election
there was lots of evidence
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that something had gone wrong.
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00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:15,252
- At that time Ukrainian
intelligence agencies
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detected that there were
hackers who actually tried
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00:25:17,907 --> 00:25:20,649
to break into the central
election commission.
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So they were trying to change
the results of the votes.
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- And those parts that
had voted for Yanukovich
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turned out in excess
of 100% was reported.
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- [Reporter] The country's
election commission
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ignored reports of fraud
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declaring Kremlin-backed
victory Yanukovich the winner.
468
00:25:37,318 --> 00:25:41,888
- The election was, in the eyes
of most Ukrainians, stolen.
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The Ukrainians had enough.
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And the Orange Revolution
consisted of people coming out
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to the central Kiev square
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00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:59,688
and saying, no, we're not
going to accept a bad election.
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- The Ukrainian Supreme Court
basically ruled a do over.
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- Russia opposed that
idea because they
understood correctly
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00:26:29,413 --> 00:26:31,198
that if it was done
in a free and fair way
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that Mr. Yanukovich
would not win.
477
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,683
- [Daniel] And Yuschenko
became president.
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- [Steven] His prime minister
was Yulia Tymoshenko.
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- So this week has
a unique feel to it
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as we all have the
profound privilege
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of welcoming president
Viktor Yuschenko to--
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[audience applauding]
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- Protection from the
regime of mobsters
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is only a matter
that can cause hope.
485
00:27:01,968 --> 00:27:03,709
We faced a very similar choice.
486
00:27:03,796 --> 00:27:06,537
It was not a choice between
the left and the right.
487
00:27:06,625 --> 00:27:10,629
It was the choice
between totalitarian
regime and democracy.
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00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,022
It has betrayed
the future at best.
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00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:16,330
- [Reporter] Viktor Yanukovich
predicted more turmoil ahead.
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I am ready to lead, he said.
491
00:27:18,245 --> 00:27:20,813
Yuschenko will find out what
opposition really means.
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00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:25,426
- Mr. Manafort came
to Ukraine late 2004.
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00:27:25,513 --> 00:27:28,211
Yanukovich had been
fairly badly discredited.
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The role that I saw
for Mr. Manafort
495
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:42,269
was somebody tried to
rehabilitate Mr. Yanukovich.
496
00:27:42,356 --> 00:27:46,403
- Paul Manafort has been a
Washington political consultant
497
00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:48,144
for a long, long time.
498
00:27:49,450 --> 00:27:51,234
- [Reporter] Paul Manafort,
a top campaign strategist
499
00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:52,453
for President Bush.
500
00:27:58,111 --> 00:28:00,461
- [Woman] Bob Dole was the
last one who brought him on
501
00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:02,593
as the head of the
convention at that point.
502
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,465
- We are ready, not
only to continue to lead
503
00:28:04,552 --> 00:28:06,467
in the Congress but to
take the White House.
504
00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:07,642
- He had disappeared.
505
00:28:07,729 --> 00:28:09,122
No one knew what he was doing.
506
00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:17,304
- [Greg] It's impossible
that Paul Manafort was not
507
00:28:17,391 --> 00:28:20,307
at least run past the
Russian government
508
00:28:20,394 --> 00:28:23,397
because Manafort was
very close to Yanukovich.
509
00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:26,052
And Yanukovich was so
close to the Kremlin.
510
00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:31,840
- The big switch from western,
the western point of view
511
00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:34,800
was the Munich security
conference speech.
512
00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:39,500
- The United States has
overstepped its national borders
513
00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:41,067
in every way.
514
00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:44,026
Of course such a policy
stimulates an arms race.
515
00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:45,898
No one feels safe.
516
00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:48,378
- Senator Joe Lieberman
and I were sitting
517
00:28:48,465 --> 00:28:51,120
in assigned seats
in the front row.
518
00:28:51,207 --> 00:28:53,819
And he would utter
a phrase in Russian
519
00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:57,474
and after he would say, he'd
look over at the two of us
520
00:28:57,561 --> 00:29:00,695
like that, you know, I said
what is it with this guy?
521
00:29:02,349 --> 00:29:03,437
- I very often.
522
00:29:03,524 --> 00:29:04,873
He repeals by our partners.
523
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,527
The effect that
Russia should play
524
00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:09,182
an increasingly active
role in world affairs.
525
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,793
- That was 2007.
526
00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:15,318
Two months later they
did the cyber-attack
527
00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:20,410
on my country because we really
didn't want a Soviet statue
528
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,152
in the middle of town.
529
00:29:24,588 --> 00:29:25,938
We didn't tear it down.
530
00:29:26,025 --> 00:29:27,766
We moved it.
531
00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:30,812
We figured, okay, this is
important for some people.
532
00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:35,164
But even that was sort
of enough of an offense.
533
00:29:35,251 --> 00:29:37,471
[yelling]
534
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:43,042
The 9th of May with the
day the Russians celebrate
535
00:29:43,129 --> 00:29:46,872
the end of World War II no one
could get into any websites
536
00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:51,311
including the banks, any
government sites, news media.
537
00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:53,879
I mean, it's clear they did it.
538
00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:56,055
A year later they
invaded Georgia.
539
00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:00,581
- After the collapse
of the Soviet Union,
540
00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:04,237
Georgia was controlled by
mafias and criminal gangs
541
00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,021
that were known
as thieves-in-law.
542
00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:10,939
- Then came the revolution
and Misha Saakashvili
543
00:30:11,026 --> 00:30:12,680
became their president.
544
00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:19,208
And made, really, very
significant changes
545
00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:21,428
and improvement to the country.
546
00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,430
- After years of
the Georgian economy
547
00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:25,998
being a basket case
suddenly starts to roar.
548
00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:29,305
He had a vision of Georgia
in NATO and the EU.
549
00:30:29,392 --> 00:30:30,524
The Russians hated it.
550
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,528
- As long as you
have these blocs,
551
00:30:34,615 --> 00:30:36,704
NATO and the European Union,
552
00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:40,229
they're bigger,
richer, stronger, more
powerful than Russia.
553
00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:46,409
But if you reduce them
to their individual parts
554
00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:49,108
each of these countries
is far weaker than Russia.
555
00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:53,895
- They kept provoking the
Georgians more and more
556
00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:55,505
and more and more.
557
00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:57,116
They wanted a war.
558
00:30:59,205 --> 00:31:00,554
- They started to say the war.
559
00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:04,079
At first he started
to tell it to me.
560
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,602
To some western leaders.
561
00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:11,434
Looked like the west
was the wandering life,
562
00:31:11,521 --> 00:31:14,307
wanted somewhere and Russians
knew where they were going.
563
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,833
Then we had direct
military attacks.
564
00:31:20,356 --> 00:31:24,230
- In the middle of the opening
ceremonies of the Olympics,
565
00:31:24,317 --> 00:31:25,796
the Russians invaded Georgia.
566
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:31,890
[man yelling]
567
00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:35,154
[tanks rapidly firing]
568
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,677
- Wake up, wake up.
569
00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:38,853
We are attacked because
we wanted to be free.
570
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:40,289
We are attacked
because we wanted
571
00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:41,682
to build genuine democracy.
572
00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:43,858
If Americans and
Europeans don't stand up
573
00:31:43,945 --> 00:31:46,513
for their own values,
for their own principles,
574
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,689
then those principles and
values will be in danger
575
00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:50,996
to the Georgia,
tomorrow elsewhere.
576
00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:52,998
- But the Russians then
spent a lot of time
577
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:55,870
convincing everyone the
Georgians started the war.
578
00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:57,219
It's Saakashvili's fault.
579
00:31:57,306 --> 00:31:59,613
He was dangerous and a madman.
580
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,702
- Russia has criticized
the western media
581
00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:04,705
for what it's called it's
biosphere on the conflict.
582
00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:06,794
Not all journalists blame
Russia for the conflict.
583
00:32:06,881 --> 00:32:08,622
Alex Jones?
584
00:32:08,709 --> 00:32:10,406
- [Alex] I just hope Russia
keeps troops in Georgia
585
00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:12,278
because the dictator,
586
00:32:12,365 --> 00:32:14,628
and we know he was elected
under fraud there in Georgia
587
00:32:14,715 --> 00:32:16,847
has said that he plans,
he said it last week,
588
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,588
to attack again.
589
00:32:18,675 --> 00:32:21,635
- Allegation that Georgia
would attack Russia
590
00:32:21,722 --> 00:32:25,987
is so foolish and
outrageous and disgraceful.
591
00:32:26,074 --> 00:32:28,120
But it's typical
of Vladimir Putin.
592
00:32:29,686 --> 00:32:31,471
- They did not
achieve the collapse
593
00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:33,125
of the Saakashvili government.
594
00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:35,127
It cost them a lot in respect,
595
00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,216
in international relationships.
596
00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:39,131
And their military
was really exposed
597
00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:41,350
as something weaker
than they all thought.
598
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:44,919
So there was this whole
portfolio of kind of rethinking
599
00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:47,835
what are the political
warfare tools
600
00:32:47,922 --> 00:32:49,968
that we have that we can use.
601
00:32:51,578 --> 00:32:54,363
- They began to increase
their funding to far right
602
00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:58,280
nationalistic white
supremacists political parties.
603
00:32:58,367 --> 00:33:01,892
- In democracies, public
opinion is your battlefield.
604
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:04,069
It's finding those
affinity groups.
605
00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:05,679
They don't like globalization.
606
00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,768
They're very fearful
of immigration.
607
00:33:07,855 --> 00:33:08,856
They're xenophobic.
608
00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:11,032
And that fear is then used
609
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,730
by Russian disinformation
operations to say
610
00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:16,559
you're not being protected
from migration crisis,
611
00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:20,302
from the social changes
that we see around you.
612
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:24,698
Gazprom and others, they were
purchasing local affiliates
613
00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:27,570
so it looked like less Russian,
had less of a Russian face.
614
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:31,618
- Gazprom is the world's
largest gas company.
615
00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:36,188
It and its resources
are used to help achieve
616
00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:38,842
the political objectives
of the Russian state.
617
00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:41,715
- When the economics
and the politics combine
618
00:33:41,802 --> 00:33:44,326
in fact the, it's state capture.
619
00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:48,461
The national government
cannot take independent action
620
00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:53,553
that does not follow
Russia's policy interests.
621
00:33:54,815 --> 00:33:56,469
- It's far better to
expend your energy
622
00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:59,863
on getting a Russia
friendly government elected
623
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:01,909
than it is to have to
build up your military
624
00:34:01,996 --> 00:34:03,519
to invade the country.
625
00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,610
- There was the Russian
oligarchy, Ivanishvili,
626
00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,570
who was biggest private
shareholder of Russia Gazprom.
627
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,791
Suddenly Ivanishvili announced
that he was entering politics
628
00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:16,445
and he will run against us.
629
00:34:16,532 --> 00:34:18,186
- They wanted to believe
630
00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:21,363
that he was this independent
weirdo businessman.
631
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:23,278
He must be a very
successful man.
632
00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,846
Nobody wanted to believe
he was what he is,
633
00:34:25,933 --> 00:34:29,980
a front for Russian
engagement in the country.
634
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,635
The campaign in Georgia
before the 2012 election
635
00:34:32,722 --> 00:34:35,856
had been increasingly dirty
and hostile and violent.
636
00:34:35,943 --> 00:34:38,467
- So the narrative
was that no matter
637
00:34:38,554 --> 00:34:41,166
what you will falsify,
rig the elections.
638
00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:43,646
And then they would
take it to the streets.
639
00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:44,865
- There was a lot of discussion
640
00:34:44,952 --> 00:34:46,475
about political prosecution.
641
00:34:46,562 --> 00:34:48,086
If they won they would have put
642
00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:50,175
the entire former
government in prison,
643
00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:51,611
that these were all criminal.
644
00:34:51,698 --> 00:34:53,091
Some of it was
really cheap stuff.
645
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:54,875
Saakashvili is
really an Armenian.
646
00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:56,659
He's not really a Georgian.
647
00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:00,750
- That's a technique the
Russians use quite a bit.
648
00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,230
The best way to
discredit somebody
649
00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:04,363
is to make them
appear inauthentic.
650
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:07,061
They're not part of
the community which
they say they are.
651
00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:08,758
- Then it's picked
up by other media.
652
00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:10,804
It's sort of spread
about social media.
653
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,460
Eventually people sort of say
some of this must be true.
654
00:35:16,853 --> 00:35:19,204
- Mafia bosses, [speaking in
foreign language] from Russia
655
00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:22,076
try to help to organize
mass disturbances.
656
00:35:24,774 --> 00:35:26,472
They listened to our
telephone conversations,
657
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,735
especially when we were
calling from abroad.
658
00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:33,305
For whatever similar situation
would ignite in Georgia
659
00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:36,743
they always had intercepts
for all kind of situations.
660
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,919
- No party in Georgia
could have been
661
00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:40,834
in a real popular
way for Russian.
662
00:35:40,921 --> 00:35:42,314
And Ivanishvili knew that.
663
00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:43,837
So you had a new
message on Russia.
664
00:35:43,924 --> 00:35:45,665
It was wouldn't it be nice
665
00:35:45,752 --> 00:35:48,015
if we had a better
relationship with Russia?
666
00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:56,980
- About two weeks
before the vote,
667
00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:58,721
there was the
release of the first
668
00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:01,855
of what became known as
the prison abuse tapes.
669
00:36:01,942 --> 00:36:03,900
- The images looked very bad.
670
00:36:03,987 --> 00:36:06,425
After initial shock, people
started to look at the image.
671
00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:10,342
In details they explain to us
that the whole thing was fake.
672
00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:13,040
Later we discovered that
this thing was done by guys
673
00:36:13,127 --> 00:36:16,348
with very well-known Russian
intelligence connections.
674
00:36:16,435 --> 00:36:17,958
But it was too late.
675
00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:19,916
- [Reporter] On Tuesday
President Saakashvili
676
00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:23,572
conceded he lost the closely
fought parliamentary vote.
677
00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:26,836
- 65 or so former officials
have been arrested,
678
00:36:26,923 --> 00:36:28,316
detained, or convicted.
679
00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:32,059
Saakashvili will be arrested
if he goes back to Georgia.
680
00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:42,896
- And then you saw the
allowing of Russian money
681
00:36:42,983 --> 00:36:44,811
back into Georgia's
full society.
682
00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:47,901
- We are returning Georgia
product to the Russian market.
683
00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:49,381
- His wealth and his fortune
684
00:36:49,468 --> 00:36:51,905
are all connected
to the Kremlin.
685
00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:55,213
That means he can never be
independent of what they want.
686
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,911
- Putin had told the
National Security Council
687
00:36:57,998 --> 00:36:59,826
that Georgian elections
were the most successful
688
00:36:59,913 --> 00:37:02,089
special operation they ever had.
689
00:37:05,005 --> 00:37:06,789
They learned that
any democratic system
690
00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:10,315
is essentially very vulnerable
to this kind of meddling.
691
00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:12,839
Full corruption,
information campaigns,
692
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,797
character destructions,
693
00:37:14,884 --> 00:37:17,844
and then your adversary's
much more vulnerable.
694
00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:20,586
Then it's nothing about their
economy size or military size.
695
00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:22,109
It's about their state of mind.
696
00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:29,551
- In Ukraine Putin
did the same thing.
697
00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:34,208
- Ukraine is about
100% dependent on
Russia for natural gas.
698
00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,993
- Instead of there being
direct sales from Gazprom
699
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,519
there were a whole series
of intermediary companies
700
00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:44,000
which seemed to be controlled
by a man named Dmitry Firtash.
701
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,703
Dmitry Firtash, a
Pro-Putin oligarch.
702
00:37:52,095 --> 00:37:55,708
He had worked with
Mogilevich, the crime boss.
703
00:37:55,795 --> 00:37:59,015
They siphon off lots of
money from this Gazprom.
704
00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:00,843
Billions of dollars.
705
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:03,759
- [Michael] Firtash was very
close to Vladimir Putin.
706
00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:08,242
Paul Manafort was a
business partner of Firtash.
707
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,809
- Ukrainian politicians.
708
00:38:09,896 --> 00:38:12,420
It was all just whisper
the name Paul Manafort.
709
00:38:12,507 --> 00:38:16,555
He was the dark prince
in the background,
710
00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,644
orchestrating everything.
711
00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:24,214
He was viewed as a man
who was the connection
712
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:27,957
between the Kremlin and
pro-Russian party in Ukraine
713
00:38:28,044 --> 00:38:31,396
to advance Russian
political interests.
714
00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:37,010
- Russia was buying
up utilities.
715
00:38:37,097 --> 00:38:39,665
The oligarchs were
doing Putin's bidding.
716
00:38:39,752 --> 00:38:42,145
It cut off Ukraine's
energy supply.
717
00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:47,194
- It's really a terrible thing
718
00:38:47,281 --> 00:38:49,152
if someone is killed by a bullet
719
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,720
but isn't it terrible
if you shut down
720
00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:53,069
the power in the winter?
721
00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:56,856
- In 2009, after about two weeks
722
00:38:56,943 --> 00:38:58,292
meeting with President Putin,
723
00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:01,208
Prime Minster Tymoshenko
negotiated a deal
724
00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,602
that ended the gas cutoff.
725
00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:06,692
- [Reporter] The
presidential elections
726
00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:09,085
head for a pulsating climax.
727
00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:11,044
In the orange corner
728
00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:14,047
the current poor western prime
minister, Yulia Tymoshenko.
729
00:39:15,048 --> 00:39:16,702
In the blue corner,
730
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:19,487
pro-Moscow opposition
leader Viktor Yanukovich.
731
00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:21,184
- [Reporter]
Manafort was remaking
732
00:39:21,271 --> 00:39:23,752
Yanukovych's overall
appearance and personality
733
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:26,102
as a politician to make
him more palatable.
734
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:31,325
- [Reporter] When he
said no to a TV debate,
735
00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,372
she went ahead with it anyway
facing an empty podium.
736
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,088
- [Reporter] Viktor
Yanukovich claimed victory
737
00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:57,525
in the Ukraine
presidential election.
738
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,576
- Once Viktor Yanukovich
had become president
739
00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,142
one of the things
they were trying
740
00:40:06,229 --> 00:40:08,710
to go after Tymoshenko
for was, in fact,
741
00:40:08,797 --> 00:40:10,799
that gas arrangement
she had done.
742
00:40:10,886 --> 00:40:12,018
- [Reporter] She
compared the case
743
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,237
to a Stalinist show trial.
744
00:40:14,324 --> 00:40:16,501
- [Reporter] All this
was staged in advance
745
00:40:16,588 --> 00:40:18,328
of the president's
administration
746
00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:20,156
to eliminate the opposition.
747
00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:23,377
- It may have been a bad
deal but it certainly wasn't
748
00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:26,249
the criminal action that
the Ukrainian government
749
00:40:26,336 --> 00:40:28,295
under Yanukovich
charged her with.
750
00:40:35,215 --> 00:40:36,999
- [Reporter] A seven year
prison term and an order
751
00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:40,220
that she pay 200 million
dollars in compensation.
752
00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:56,541
- [Reporter] From
prison, Tymoshenko staged
753
00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:58,107
a temporary hunger strike
754
00:40:58,194 --> 00:40:59,935
saying she'd been
beaten by guards
755
00:41:00,022 --> 00:41:01,937
and needed immediate
medical attention.
756
00:41:10,555 --> 00:41:12,034
- In a lawsuit that was filed
757
00:41:12,121 --> 00:41:14,123
by the former prime
minister of Ukraine,
758
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:18,171
there were some rather
striking court documents
759
00:41:20,042 --> 00:41:22,784
referring to Manafort's role,
760
00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:27,528
and including his
business relationships,
761
00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:32,577
real estate deals with a Russian
oligarch, Dmitry Firtash.
762
00:41:33,665 --> 00:41:36,015
Paul Manafort was in business
763
00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:41,107
with not one but two
Russian oligarchs.
764
00:41:42,151 --> 00:41:45,067
Dmitry Firtash, who
was under indictment
765
00:41:45,154 --> 00:41:46,721
by the U.S. Justice Department.
766
00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:55,382
Another, Deripaska, who
had been denied entry
767
00:41:55,469 --> 00:41:56,992
into the United States
768
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,168
because of suspected
organized crime ties.
769
00:42:00,387 --> 00:42:04,173
- Paul Manafort signed a
contract with Oleg Derispaska
770
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,437
to promote the Kremlin and
the Kremlin's interests.
771
00:42:10,136 --> 00:42:14,749
Quoting Deripaska, Putin
told him Manafort's our man.
772
00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:24,890
- Paul Manafort got his home
in Trump Towers in 2006.
773
00:42:27,283 --> 00:42:30,983
You can easily see billions
of dollars being siphoned off
774
00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:33,942
from that Ukraine
Russian energy trade
775
00:42:34,029 --> 00:42:37,555
and going through
Firtash to Paul Manafort
776
00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:40,688
and to Russians or Ukrainians
who were buying condos
777
00:42:40,775 --> 00:42:42,516
in Trump-branded properties.
778
00:42:48,609 --> 00:42:51,003
- Russia has three main
tactics for engaging
779
00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:52,787
in what we call active measures.
780
00:42:52,874 --> 00:42:55,181
Propaganda, cyber-attacks.
781
00:42:55,268 --> 00:42:57,139
Most people don't
focus on a third pillar
782
00:42:57,226 --> 00:43:00,316
of Russian active measures
which is to recruit and enlist
783
00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:03,581
and in some cases run
agents of influence.
784
00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:09,761
- The Russians, with their
785
00:43:09,848 --> 00:43:12,372
full-time intelligence
operatives.
786
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:16,855
There's probably way
over 1,000 of those
787
00:43:16,942 --> 00:43:18,596
in the United States.
788
00:43:18,683 --> 00:43:20,728
- The FBI does its best to try
789
00:43:20,815 --> 00:43:23,688
to monitor Russian
intelligence officers
790
00:43:23,775 --> 00:43:26,865
here in the United States
but there are so many of them
791
00:43:26,952 --> 00:43:30,346
and frankly the FBI's
resources are so limited.
792
00:43:30,433 --> 00:43:35,438
- When I did cases I actually
had to decide on which days
793
00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:40,792
I wanted the FBI surveillance
group to watch my target.
794
00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:45,448
- We had no idea.
795
00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:47,886
They just seemed like
a nice, quiet family.
796
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:53,892
- If you look at either as
Russian agents or as Russians
797
00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:58,200
who work on disinformation
there are more of them
798
00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,420
than there are Russians
in the armed forces.
799
00:44:01,464 --> 00:44:04,467
So a thousand. [laughs]
800
00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:06,208
- These can be
individuals who know
801
00:44:06,295 --> 00:44:08,907
that they are spying for
Russian intelligence.
802
00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:10,865
Know that they are
committing espionage.
803
00:44:10,952 --> 00:44:14,739
Or can refer to some
individuals who just aren't sure
804
00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:16,523
exactly who they're
dealing with.
805
00:44:16,610 --> 00:44:20,309
Maybe it's bankers,
maybe its financiers.
806
00:44:20,396 --> 00:44:22,529
Maybe it's people on the
periphery of government
807
00:44:22,616 --> 00:44:26,925
doing something that the
Russian government wants.
808
00:44:27,012 --> 00:44:28,840
- It seems that
anybody who was anybody
809
00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:32,191
in Russian organized crime
who came to Manhattan
810
00:44:32,278 --> 00:44:34,410
bought a condo unit
in Trump tower.
811
00:44:34,497 --> 00:44:37,239
There were gambling
operations going on there
812
00:44:37,326 --> 00:44:39,764
and prostitution operations.
813
00:44:39,851 --> 00:44:42,288
These investigations
were leading to Trump
814
00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:43,985
over and over and over again.
815
00:44:45,378 --> 00:44:48,511
- Christopher Steele is a
former MI6 specialist in Russia.
816
00:44:48,598 --> 00:44:51,689
The U.S. investigator firm
commissioned Mr. Steele
817
00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:55,301
to look at Mr. Trump and Russia.
818
00:44:55,388 --> 00:44:57,216
It was a very general assignment
819
00:44:57,303 --> 00:44:59,784
and he found an extensive
set of relations with Russia.
820
00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:05,093
- [Scott] He was generally
held in very high regard.
821
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:08,357
Had a reputation of also
for working with the FBI.
822
00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:11,143
- He helped the FBI
make the FIFA cases.
823
00:45:12,361 --> 00:45:13,275
- [Reporter] Major
corruption crackdown
824
00:45:13,362 --> 00:45:14,929
going down right now.
825
00:45:15,016 --> 00:45:16,278
Arrests made around the world.
826
00:45:16,365 --> 00:45:17,802
- [Reporter] This is the result
827
00:45:17,889 --> 00:45:19,325
of a three year long
FBI investigation.
828
00:45:19,412 --> 00:45:20,892
- He broke the case.
829
00:45:20,979 --> 00:45:24,460
He gave them access
to the key witnesses
830
00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:27,463
that they used to get the
pretty spectacular results
831
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,465
that they ultimately got.
832
00:45:30,771 --> 00:45:34,296
- Alexander Litvinenko,
who's a former FSB agent.
833
00:45:34,383 --> 00:45:39,388
When he sought asylum in London
he started working for MI6.
834
00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:42,435
His handler was
Christopher Steele.
835
00:45:43,871 --> 00:45:46,831
He was trying to expose
that Vladimir Putin
836
00:45:46,918 --> 00:45:49,398
was closely linked
to Semion Mogilevich,
837
00:45:49,485 --> 00:45:52,271
the crime boss of Russia.
838
00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:55,448
Litvinenko was eventually
poisoned by polonium
839
00:45:55,535 --> 00:45:59,104
in a murder that was very
directly linked to Russia.
840
00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:04,022
So when Mr. Steele was
hired to do oppo research
841
00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:08,461
on Donald Trump he was very,
very knowledgeable indeed.
842
00:46:09,854 --> 00:46:13,466
- The Steele Dossier
was a set of reports
843
00:46:13,553 --> 00:46:15,163
that Mr. Steele wrote.
844
00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:22,344
- All of its allegations fall
into one of three categories.
845
00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:30,265
Not yet proven, proven to
be true, and have an error
846
00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:39,753
that is consistent
with transcription
847
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,234
or transliteration problems.
848
00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:45,454
- It was said to
Mr. Steele's sources
849
00:46:45,541 --> 00:46:50,111
that Russia had turned Mr.
Trump for many, many years.
850
00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,506
In the course of work
on Russia matters,
851
00:46:53,593 --> 00:46:55,508
I came to know Mr. Steele.
852
00:46:55,595 --> 00:46:58,859
I work with people
who I can trust.
853
00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,034
Yes, I trusted Chris Steele.
854
00:47:00,121 --> 00:47:02,036
I still trust Chris Steele.
855
00:47:02,123 --> 00:47:03,516
- Look at Putin what
he's doing with,
856
00:47:03,603 --> 00:47:05,344
I mean, you know, what's
going on over there.
857
00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:06,867
I mean, this guy has done,
858
00:47:06,954 --> 00:47:09,304
whether you like him
or don't like him
859
00:47:09,391 --> 00:47:13,091
he's doing a great job in
rebuilding the image of Russia.
860
00:47:13,178 --> 00:47:15,615
And also rebuilding
Russia period.
861
00:47:15,702 --> 00:47:19,924
- Putin seeks the veneer
of democratic legitimacy
862
00:47:20,011 --> 00:47:22,491
but there cannot be choice.
863
00:47:22,578 --> 00:47:25,277
In the Russian
constitution you cannot run
864
00:47:25,364 --> 00:47:26,974
for a third term as president.
865
00:47:27,061 --> 00:47:30,630
So what he did was to
find a very close member
866
00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:34,025
of his inner circle to
agree to be president
867
00:47:34,112 --> 00:47:35,678
while he could be prime minster.
868
00:47:39,204 --> 00:47:43,643
- He is someone who is obviously
being installed by Putin
869
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:48,430
and it raises serious
issues about how we're going
870
00:47:48,517 --> 00:47:50,171
to deal with Russia
going forward.
871
00:47:51,781 --> 00:47:55,089
- Putin faces what I call
the King Lear problem.
872
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:58,571
You can't resign to
a comfortable life
873
00:47:58,658 --> 00:48:02,270
because of the things you've
done when you were king.
874
00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:06,187
But the constitutional
forms were observed.
875
00:48:17,198 --> 00:48:18,765
- When Putin returned
to the presidency,
876
00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:20,549
by that point I
think it was about
877
00:48:20,636 --> 00:48:22,508
to the least surprising
development that any of us
878
00:48:22,595 --> 00:48:24,466
had seen in Russia
in a long time.
879
00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:26,555
- I mean, you can imagine
the conversation with Putin.
880
00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:27,687
Vladimir.
881
00:48:29,297 --> 00:48:30,646
You think you'd like
to be president again?
882
00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:33,867
I think I would.
[audience laughs]
883
00:48:39,568 --> 00:48:43,703
- The election was clearly
unfair and illegitimate.
884
00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:46,619
I said that on behalf
of the United States.
885
00:48:46,706 --> 00:48:50,014
We just witnessed a flawed
duma election in Russia
886
00:48:50,101 --> 00:48:54,627
including efforts to halt
the election monitoring.
887
00:48:54,714 --> 00:48:57,021
And Russian voters deserve
a full investigation
888
00:48:57,108 --> 00:48:59,849
of electoral fraud
and manipulation.
889
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:01,982
I wasn't the only
person who thought that.
890
00:49:05,681 --> 00:49:09,120
- [Heather] He encountered the
largest public demonstrations
891
00:49:09,207 --> 00:49:10,686
of his tenure.
892
00:49:10,773 --> 00:49:13,037
[shouting in foreign language]
893
00:49:13,124 --> 00:49:14,952
- [Man] They shouted
Putin is a thief.
894
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,693
- Which terrified him because
of the Orange Revolution.
895
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:22,524
Because of the uprisings
that took place
896
00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:25,397
post collapse of
the Soviet Union
897
00:49:25,484 --> 00:49:28,008
in places that
wanted more than just
898
00:49:28,095 --> 00:49:30,576
a different form of autocracy.
899
00:49:30,663 --> 00:49:32,708
- If you look at
the crowds of those
900
00:49:32,795 --> 00:49:34,536
that were in the protest,
901
00:49:34,623 --> 00:49:37,626
I'll bet ya nine out of 10
of them were under age 25.
902
00:49:37,713 --> 00:49:39,628
They don't want that
kind of a government.
903
00:49:39,715 --> 00:49:41,456
They want to be
like the Europeans.
904
00:49:41,543 --> 00:49:43,632
And I think that Vladimir
Putin has not seen
905
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,678
the last of these protests.
906
00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:48,376
- And then he attacked
me and accused me
907
00:49:48,463 --> 00:49:50,988
of inciting the demonstrations
908
00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:53,381
that really were grassroots
from the bottom up.
909
00:49:53,468 --> 00:49:56,994
- Putin blamed
her very publicly.
910
00:49:57,081 --> 00:49:58,865
Privately he did
too, by the way.
911
00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,650
- She set the tone for
some of the activists
912
00:50:01,737 --> 00:50:03,043
inside our country.
913
00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,566
Gave them a signal.
914
00:50:04,653 --> 00:50:06,133
They heard this signal
and started active work
915
00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:09,223
in support of the
U.S. State Department.
916
00:50:09,310 --> 00:50:12,705
- I suspect that
Putin, like Stalin,
917
00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:16,143
read every one else
by his own measure.
918
00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:20,582
And being a cynical person,
understanding only power,
919
00:50:20,669 --> 00:50:24,108
he probably assumed that
we were equally cynical
920
00:50:24,195 --> 00:50:26,719
and our protestations
of support for democracy
921
00:50:26,806 --> 00:50:28,112
were meaningless fluff.
922
00:50:30,244 --> 00:50:33,595
So that he sees our
actions in Russia
923
00:50:33,682 --> 00:50:35,728
as designed to undermine him.
924
00:50:35,815 --> 00:50:38,296
And he looks at all the
democratic activists
925
00:50:38,383 --> 00:50:41,255
as somehow somebody
else's puppet.
926
00:50:41,342 --> 00:50:45,651
Hillary Clinton is doing this
or Condi Rice is doing this.
927
00:50:45,738 --> 00:50:48,784
- It's not that he
believes everything
928
00:50:48,871 --> 00:50:53,050
but there is a kind of a
grounding in his KGB training
929
00:50:53,137 --> 00:50:54,834
because, remember,
during the Cold War
930
00:50:54,921 --> 00:50:58,533
they would fund some
firebrand in some country
931
00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:02,146
to became allied with
them and we would go in
932
00:51:02,233 --> 00:51:05,062
and try to undercut that
person and visa versa.
933
00:51:05,149 --> 00:51:08,543
But a lot of it is just to
keep people in Russia in line.
934
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:13,635
My experience with him was
difficult and challenging
935
00:51:14,462 --> 00:51:16,812
because I challenged him.
936
00:51:16,899 --> 00:51:18,814
- It's better not
to argue with women.
937
00:51:18,901 --> 00:51:20,903
But Mrs. Clinton has
never been too graceful
938
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:22,731
in her statements.
939
00:51:22,818 --> 00:51:25,169
When people push boundaries
too far it's not because
940
00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:27,780
they are strong but
because they are weak.
941
00:51:27,867 --> 00:51:31,175
But maybe weakness is not the
right quality for a woman.
942
00:51:31,262 --> 00:51:33,090
- In meetings that
I've had with him,
943
00:51:33,177 --> 00:51:36,919
he is in a very calculated
way trying to gain advantage,
944
00:51:37,006 --> 00:51:39,879
looking at you with
disdain and contempt.
945
00:51:39,966 --> 00:51:41,707
The bored kid in school.
946
00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:44,144
When the cameras are on he will
criticize the United States.
947
00:51:44,231 --> 00:51:45,624
When the cameras are gone,
948
00:51:45,711 --> 00:51:47,843
he'll act like he's
willing to talk to you.
949
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:49,018
He's into man spreading.
950
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:50,542
You know what that is, right.
951
00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:56,678
- Putin never really developed
a working relationship
952
00:51:56,765 --> 00:51:58,419
with secretary Clinton.
953
00:51:58,506 --> 00:52:03,381
He became very upset about
what she said in December, 2011
954
00:52:04,251 --> 00:52:05,992
and was looking for revenge.
955
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,777
- If you can use and capture
elite in specific ways
956
00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:10,301
you can accomplish your goals
957
00:52:10,388 --> 00:52:12,607
without needing to
get public support.
958
00:52:12,694 --> 00:52:14,348
The recruiting tool was money.
959
00:52:14,435 --> 00:52:17,264
- You see just so much
money flowing to Trump.
960
00:52:23,488 --> 00:52:26,186
It's hard to imagine
there's not more to it
961
00:52:26,273 --> 00:52:29,363
than just simple
generosity. [chuckles]
962
00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:33,802
- All his American banks
cut their lines of credit.
963
00:52:33,889 --> 00:52:35,630
Stopped doing business with him
964
00:52:35,717 --> 00:52:40,505
and one bank steps into the
breach as his lender of choice.
965
00:52:41,506 --> 00:52:42,985
And that's Deutsche bank.
966
00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:47,338
- From the perspective
of most western bankers
967
00:52:47,425 --> 00:52:49,818
that was just seen as insane.
968
00:52:49,905 --> 00:52:51,385
- He's had a history
969
00:52:51,472 --> 00:52:53,474
of making misleading
statements to them.
970
00:52:53,561 --> 00:52:54,606
Threatening them.
971
00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:56,608
They call and he sues them.
972
00:52:56,695 --> 00:52:58,436
He fails to pay the loan.
973
00:52:58,523 --> 00:53:01,352
He publicly criticizes
Deutsche Bank about all this.
974
00:53:01,439 --> 00:53:06,270
But Deutsche bank sticks
with him loyally throughout.
975
00:53:06,357 --> 00:53:10,274
Not only that they
also start making loans
976
00:53:10,361 --> 00:53:12,624
to his son-in-law,
Jared Kushner.
977
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:16,758
- Deutsche Bank has
been fined before
978
00:53:16,845 --> 00:53:19,457
for participating in
Russian money laundering.
979
00:53:21,241 --> 00:53:22,982
- [Reporter] The German bank
says it's willing to pay
980
00:53:23,069 --> 00:53:26,507
over 600 million dollars in
fines for its connections
981
00:53:26,594 --> 00:53:28,335
to alleged Russian
money laundering.
982
00:53:29,771 --> 00:53:31,382
- When the scandal
erupted that Deutsche Bank
983
00:53:31,469 --> 00:53:33,732
about these money
laundering operations,
984
00:53:33,819 --> 00:53:37,431
the Deutsche bank CEO was fired.
985
00:53:37,518 --> 00:53:40,347
He became the CEO of
the bank of Cyprus.
986
00:53:40,434 --> 00:53:44,133
- One of the
financial institutions
987
00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:46,875
through which they
launder money.
988
00:53:46,962 --> 00:53:50,662
- [Scott] Who hired him to be
the CEO of the Bank of Cyprus?
989
00:53:50,749 --> 00:53:55,319
Wilbur Ross, tight
supporter of Donald Trump,
990
00:53:55,406 --> 00:53:58,017
now his Secretary of Commerce.
991
00:53:58,104 --> 00:54:01,890
- The practice of overpaying
significantly is something
992
00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:05,633
that falls into the
category of Russian methods.
993
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,200
- [Scott] The man known
994
00:54:07,287 --> 00:54:09,071
as the Russian potash
king, Rybolovlev,
995
00:54:09,158 --> 00:54:12,597
purchases a property
for more than twice
996
00:54:12,684 --> 00:54:14,729
what Trump had paid for it.
997
00:54:15,904 --> 00:54:17,515
- That's when our
country was going through
998
00:54:17,602 --> 00:54:20,344
a financial collapse
that largely was caused
999
00:54:20,431 --> 00:54:22,737
by the real estate market.
1000
00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:27,089
Did he overpay because Mr. Trump
was such a great negotiator
1001
00:54:27,176 --> 00:54:29,353
or was there something
else going on?
1002
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,224
- Never does anything
with the property.
1003
00:54:31,311 --> 00:54:34,749
So the property transaction
appears to be nothing more
1004
00:54:34,836 --> 00:54:38,492
than cover for infusing a
cool 100 million dollars
1005
00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:41,234
into Trump's bank accounts.
1006
00:54:41,321 --> 00:54:45,891
This same Rybolovlev is
also a principal owner
1007
00:54:45,978 --> 00:54:48,763
with Wilbur Ross of
the bank of Cyprus.
1008
00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:53,246
- In 2013 there was
a bust at Trump Tower
1009
00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:55,509
of a massive gambling ring.
1010
00:54:55,596 --> 00:54:58,730
It was run by a gun
named Taiwanchic.
1011
00:54:58,817 --> 00:55:02,255
He has been tied to the Russia
crime boss Simeon Mogilevich.
1012
00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:06,868
29 people were indicted but
Taiwanchic fled to Russia.
1013
00:55:10,176 --> 00:55:13,048
- [Craig] Taiwanchic
appeared again that year,
1014
00:55:13,135 --> 00:55:15,877
oddly enough, at the
Miss Universe pageant
1015
00:55:15,964 --> 00:55:20,099
that Donald Trump was
doing with Aras Agalarov.
1016
00:55:20,186 --> 00:55:22,493
- [Michael] Billionaire
oligarch who was known
1017
00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:24,408
actually as Putin's builder
1018
00:55:24,495 --> 00:55:27,933
because he had done massive
construction projects
1019
00:55:28,020 --> 00:55:31,763
for the Kremlin and
gotten a big award
1020
00:55:31,850 --> 00:55:34,200
personally delivered by Putin.
1021
00:55:39,248 --> 00:55:40,641
- Donald Trump chose Moscow
1022
00:55:40,728 --> 00:55:42,687
as the place to
have Miss Universe.
1023
00:55:42,774 --> 00:55:45,080
I think it would be important
for us to understand
1024
00:55:45,167 --> 00:55:48,432
just who he met with
while he was on that trip.
1025
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,260
Whether he talked
to Vladimir Putin.
1026
00:55:54,176 --> 00:55:56,004
- There was a luncheon with
1027
00:55:56,091 --> 00:55:59,573
a lot of Russian business
leaders in which Trump spoke
1028
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:03,055
and the birthday party
for Aras Agalarov.
1029
00:56:04,012 --> 00:56:06,928
- [Scott] He even
appears in the scion
1030
00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:10,018
of the Agalarov
family music video.
1031
00:56:10,105 --> 00:56:10,889
- You're fired.
1032
00:56:21,116 --> 00:56:22,422
- Compromat.
1033
00:56:22,509 --> 00:56:24,163
It's essentially
embarrassing information
1034
00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:26,731
that's going to put you
under somebody else's thumb.
1035
00:56:28,036 --> 00:56:30,474
- Use money, use sex,
use whatever they can
1036
00:56:30,561 --> 00:56:31,823
to try to entrap people.
1037
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:33,912
I mean, that's just a fact.
1038
00:56:33,999 --> 00:56:36,828
- They don't mind blowing
up their own bribery scheme
1039
00:56:36,915 --> 00:56:41,398
to blackmail an individual and
now they've got that person.
1040
00:56:41,485 --> 00:56:44,488
- There's purely rumors
that on his trips to Moscow
1041
00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:47,665
that Trump was involved
in various sex escapades
1042
00:56:47,752 --> 00:56:49,188
that may have compromised him.
1043
00:56:54,367 --> 00:56:57,022
- [piers] If I can offer you a
check for 10 billion dollars.
1044
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:58,676
- [Trump] Billion.
1045
00:56:58,763 --> 00:57:00,504
- [Piers] But the deal
is you can't have sex
1046
00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:02,157
for the next 10 years.
- Would that include my wife?
1047
00:57:23,701 --> 00:57:27,444
- Sergei Million appears in
connection with Trump's dealings
1048
00:57:27,531 --> 00:57:31,665
in Russia and certainly in
connection with his hotel stays
1049
00:57:31,752 --> 00:57:34,407
and someone who would know an
awful lot about what went on
1050
00:57:34,494 --> 00:57:35,887
during those visits
with meetings
1051
00:57:35,974 --> 00:57:37,715
with prostitutes and so forth.
1052
00:57:37,802 --> 00:57:39,543
- You know, I was in Moscow
a couple of months ago.
1053
00:57:39,630 --> 00:57:41,806
I own the Miss Universe pageant.
1054
00:57:41,893 --> 00:57:44,156
And they treated me so great.
1055
00:57:44,243 --> 00:57:45,723
Putin even sent me a present.
1056
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:48,377
Beautiful present
with a beautiful note.
1057
00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:52,164
- When you look at Steele's
report information he gives,
1058
00:57:53,121 --> 00:57:57,125
one of those sources
could be Million.
1059
00:57:57,212 --> 00:57:59,650
We don't know that for sure
but the descriptions match.
1060
00:57:59,737 --> 00:58:01,869
- He likes Russia because
there's money to be made there.
1061
00:58:01,956 --> 00:58:06,091
- He likes Russia because he
likes beautiful Russian ladies.
1062
00:58:06,178 --> 00:58:09,703
- But I hear that golden
showers was not the end of it.
1063
00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:12,489
There was much more
extreme sick stuff.
1064
00:58:12,576 --> 00:58:15,143
- He was only there
two days one night.
1065
00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:17,145
He was supposed
to be there longer
1066
00:58:17,232 --> 00:58:21,541
but Billy Graham's
95th birthday party
1067
00:58:21,628 --> 00:58:25,153
was in Asheville,
North Carolina.
1068
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,199
Trump felt the need to go.
1069
00:58:27,286 --> 00:58:28,940
Why?
1070
00:58:29,027 --> 00:58:31,682
Because he's getting ready
to run for president.
1071
00:58:31,769 --> 00:58:35,207
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1072
00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:40,821
- To be honest, the
question was just asked
1073
00:58:40,908 --> 00:58:43,128
or was asked many times today
at the Miss Universe contest.
1074
00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:46,218
They said would you run, and
it's just too soon to say.
1075
00:58:46,305 --> 00:58:48,742
- [Reporter] Do you
have a relationship
with Vladimir Putin,
1076
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:53,007
a conversational relationship
or anything that you feel
1077
00:58:53,094 --> 00:58:56,489
you have sway or influence
over his government?
1078
00:58:56,576 --> 00:59:00,145
- I do have a relationship
and I can tell you
1079
00:59:00,232 --> 00:59:02,539
that he's very interested in
what we're doing here today.
1080
00:59:02,626 --> 00:59:03,975
He's probably very interested
1081
00:59:04,062 --> 00:59:05,803
in what you and I
are saying today
1082
00:59:05,890 --> 00:59:07,326
and I'm sure he's going to
be seeing it in some form.
1083
00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:08,849
But I do have a
relationship with him.
1084
00:59:08,936 --> 00:59:10,372
- About Russia.
1085
00:59:10,459 --> 00:59:12,244
You were asked yesterday
if you've ever spoken
1086
00:59:12,331 --> 00:59:16,030
to Vladimir Putin and you
said I don't want to say.
1087
00:59:16,117 --> 00:59:17,423
- Yeah, I have no
comment on that.
1088
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:18,337
No comment.
1089
00:59:18,424 --> 00:59:19,860
I was in Russia--
1090
00:59:19,947 --> 00:59:21,427
- Well one of the things
people like about you
1091
00:59:21,514 --> 00:59:22,733
is you answer any questions.
- Yeah, but.
1092
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:24,604
Let's assume I did.
1093
00:59:24,691 --> 00:59:26,040
Perhaps it was personal or,
you know, I don't want to,
1094
00:59:26,127 --> 00:59:28,739
I don't want to
hurt his confidence.
1095
00:59:28,826 --> 00:59:31,306
He's done a very
brilliant job in terms
1096
00:59:31,393 --> 00:59:34,919
of what he represents and
who he's representing.
1097
00:59:38,226 --> 00:59:40,011
- Viktor Yanukovich
had been in talks
1098
00:59:40,098 --> 00:59:43,101
with the European Union about
an association agreement
1099
00:59:43,188 --> 00:59:47,061
but then after a visit to
Moscow and getting the message
1100
00:59:47,148 --> 00:59:50,456
that this was not going
to be seen favorably,
1101
00:59:50,543 --> 00:59:52,458
Yanukovich came back
and decided that
1102
00:59:52,545 --> 00:59:54,721
in fact he was not gonna
pursue this agreement.
1103
00:59:54,808 --> 00:59:57,158
So this square in downtown Kiev,
1104
00:59:57,245 --> 00:59:59,508
protestors went there and
began demanding that, in fact,
1105
00:59:59,596 --> 01:00:01,293
this agreement go into force,
1106
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:03,687
instead of some alternative
agreement with Russia.
1107
01:00:06,211 --> 01:00:09,693
They protest not just
in favor of an agreement
1108
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:11,259
with the European Union
1109
01:00:11,346 --> 01:00:13,697
but a protest against
Viktor Yanukovich
1110
01:00:13,784 --> 01:00:16,700
and the way he was running
things at the time.
1111
01:00:18,397 --> 01:00:20,355
- About a week later
the police went in
1112
01:00:20,442 --> 01:00:21,400
and broke up that camp.
1113
01:00:27,275 --> 01:00:30,409
In two hours shed more
blood than had been shed
1114
01:00:30,496 --> 01:00:34,282
during the entire Orange
Revolution back in 2004.
1115
01:00:34,369 --> 01:00:35,893
- And at each turn,
1116
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:38,286
Yanukovich became more
and more repressive,
1117
01:00:38,373 --> 01:00:39,766
more and more bloodthirsty.
1118
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:48,340
- You had people
shooting into the crowd.
1119
01:00:48,427 --> 01:00:50,516
In some cases directly
shot to the head
1120
01:00:50,603 --> 01:00:53,388
where like snipers
were shooting at them.
1121
01:00:53,475 --> 01:00:55,782
[guns firing]
1122
01:00:59,351 --> 01:01:02,528
Probably 100, you know,
odd people killed.
1123
01:01:10,144 --> 01:01:13,495
- He just infuriated and
enraged his entire country.
1124
01:01:25,725 --> 01:01:28,380
- [Reporter] Yanukovich defied
calls for his resignation.
1125
01:01:28,467 --> 01:01:32,427
- I am not going to leave
Ukraine or go anywhere.
1126
01:01:32,514 --> 01:01:34,995
- Yanukovich packed
up in a car and left.
1127
01:01:39,347 --> 01:01:41,567
He fled the country and
turned up in Russia.
1128
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,006
- And this is while Manafort
is still advising him.
1129
01:01:46,093 --> 01:01:49,009
- I don't think that Yanukovich
was the pro-Putin person
1130
01:01:49,096 --> 01:01:51,620
that he's reputed to be
and if you look at what--
1131
01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:53,100
- [Charlie] Well, he went off.
1132
01:01:53,187 --> 01:01:54,667
He ended up in Moscow.
- Well, yeah.
1133
01:01:54,754 --> 01:01:56,408
- [Reporter] The ousted
president is wanted
1134
01:01:56,495 --> 01:01:58,192
for mass murder and on the run.
1135
01:01:58,279 --> 01:01:59,716
- So you have the
Ukrainian parliament.
1136
01:01:59,803 --> 01:02:01,195
What do we do?
1137
01:02:01,282 --> 01:02:02,631
- [Reporter] Parliament voted
1138
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:04,459
to free Yanukovych's
arch nemesis,
1139
01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:06,418
opposition leader
Yulia Tymoshenko.
1140
01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:11,423
- Today you have an open
road to build Ukraine
1141
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:13,338
the way you want.
1142
01:02:13,425 --> 01:02:15,862
That is why you must stay here
until the person you trust
1143
01:02:15,949 --> 01:02:18,430
is elected in an honest way.
1144
01:02:18,517 --> 01:02:21,041
- My sense is at that point
the Russians panicked.
1145
01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:25,916
The Russians had lying
in a safe somewhere
1146
01:02:26,003 --> 01:02:29,528
the plan how you take Crimea
and they activated that plan.
1147
01:02:33,619 --> 01:02:36,013
Within a couple of
days you saw people
1148
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,232
who were very clearly
professional soldiers.
1149
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:40,408
They were wearing Russian
style combat fatigues
1150
01:02:40,495 --> 01:02:42,410
but they had no
identifying insignia.
1151
01:02:42,497 --> 01:02:45,457
The Ukrainians referred to these
people as little green men.
1152
01:02:45,544 --> 01:02:48,329
- [Richard] Which were in
fact special operations forces
1153
01:02:48,416 --> 01:02:50,114
and intelligence operatives.
1154
01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:53,552
- We thought this
could be the beginning
1155
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,598
of an outright full scale
invasion of the country.
1156
01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:01,690
That's when the separatists
shot down the Malaysian airliner
1157
01:03:01,778 --> 01:03:04,563
and killed over 100
Dutch passengers.
1158
01:03:05,956 --> 01:03:08,436
- [Richard] Separatists
initially boasted on Twitter
1159
01:03:08,523 --> 01:03:10,699
that they had taken it down.
1160
01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:14,181
- The unforgivable sin
was Putin lying about it.
1161
01:03:15,704 --> 01:03:19,621
Suggesting Ukrainians shot
it down or CIA shot it down.
1162
01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:22,320
Throwing out a bunch of
chafe which was an insult.
1163
01:03:23,625 --> 01:03:26,367
The European Union
had had enough.
1164
01:03:26,454 --> 01:03:29,283
They joined us with
strong sectoral sanctions.
1165
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:31,024
And that surprised the Russians
1166
01:03:31,111 --> 01:03:33,374
and it hit the
Russian economy hard
1167
01:03:33,461 --> 01:03:36,638
right at the time oil
prices started to tank.
1168
01:03:36,725 --> 01:03:38,336
So they had a double whammy.
1169
01:03:38,423 --> 01:03:39,946
- How do you respond
1170
01:03:40,033 --> 01:03:43,428
to the greatest geo
strategic catastrophe
1171
01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:45,038
of the 20th century,
1172
01:03:45,125 --> 01:03:47,127
which was the collapse
of the Soviet Union?
1173
01:03:47,214 --> 01:03:50,565
You try to preempt the
collapse of the western system
1174
01:03:50,652 --> 01:03:52,176
in the 21st century.
1175
01:03:53,917 --> 01:03:56,963
If you can't destroy these
structures militarily,
1176
01:03:57,050 --> 01:03:59,531
you will destroy
them from within.
1177
01:03:59,618 --> 01:04:02,708
- By actually creating
fissures and exploiting them
1178
01:04:02,795 --> 01:04:05,493
such that it's the
electorate is so divided
1179
01:04:05,580 --> 01:04:08,583
that you don't trust
the government anymore.
1180
01:04:08,670 --> 01:04:10,194
- The foundations of geopolitics
1181
01:04:10,281 --> 01:04:12,326
is a guiding
principle for Russia.
1182
01:04:12,413 --> 01:04:14,459
It's something that
their militaries
1183
01:04:14,546 --> 01:04:16,940
and intelligence
services have relied upon
1184
01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:18,898
and applied throughout
their campaigns.
1185
01:04:30,997 --> 01:04:34,305
- Russia has helped unite an
alternative right movement.
1186
01:04:34,392 --> 01:04:36,655
- You have certain
voices in the media.
1187
01:04:36,742 --> 01:04:39,658
Info Wars, for example,
Breitbart to capitalize
1188
01:04:39,745 --> 01:04:41,573
on these divisions.
1189
01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:45,620
And then further encourage them
for their own personal gain.
1190
01:04:45,707 --> 01:04:47,971
- I'd like to punch him
in the face, I'll tell ya.
1191
01:04:48,058 --> 01:04:50,538
Knock the crap out of
him, would you, seriously.
1192
01:04:51,713 --> 01:04:53,498
That guy looked like
an NFL football player.
1193
01:04:53,585 --> 01:04:54,586
Now, they took him out.
1194
01:04:54,673 --> 01:04:55,717
And I'll tell you what.
1195
01:04:55,804 --> 01:04:57,719
It was really amazing to watch.
1196
01:04:57,806 --> 01:04:58,633
Bye.
1197
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,461
Go home to mommy.
1198
01:05:00,548 --> 01:05:02,028
But if we get a little bit
rough in taking them out,
1199
01:05:02,115 --> 01:05:03,943
oh, we're terrible people.
1200
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:06,337
It's one of the many reasons
our country's going to hell.
1201
01:05:06,424 --> 01:05:08,121
- Certainly this is
all in the interest
1202
01:05:08,208 --> 01:05:10,689
of at least one country.
1203
01:05:10,776 --> 01:05:15,041
- To see this otherwise
rather brazen candidate
1204
01:05:16,782 --> 01:05:21,787
turn into such a sycophant
when the name of Putin
1205
01:05:22,744 --> 01:05:25,834
ever came up rang a
very discordant bell.
1206
01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:28,141
- Putin has done an amazing job
1207
01:05:28,228 --> 01:05:31,362
of showing leadership whether
it's a noble or cause or not.
1208
01:05:31,449 --> 01:05:32,493
Let's not discuss that.
1209
01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:33,668
He is now the world leader.
1210
01:05:33,755 --> 01:05:35,279
I respect Putin.
1211
01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,671
He's a strong leader,
I can tell you that.
1212
01:05:36,758 --> 01:05:37,759
Unlike what we have.
1213
01:05:37,846 --> 01:05:39,544
We have a pathetic leader.
1214
01:05:39,631 --> 01:05:42,155
I think in terms of
leadership, he's getting an A.
1215
01:05:42,242 --> 01:05:44,244
- As far as an individual
1216
01:05:44,331 --> 01:05:47,552
who poses a threat to
the world literally.
1217
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:50,685
A person who has
no moral standards
1218
01:05:50,772 --> 01:05:52,644
that I've been able to detect.
1219
01:05:52,731 --> 01:05:54,428
F is not low enough.
1220
01:05:54,515 --> 01:05:56,604
- He was certainly very
vocal about Russia,
1221
01:05:56,691 --> 01:05:58,258
wanting a better relationship.
1222
01:05:58,345 --> 01:05:59,868
- Wouldn't it be a
wonderful thing, frankly,
1223
01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:02,219
if we actually got
along with Russia?
1224
01:06:02,306 --> 01:06:04,047
- Who's against getting
along with people
1225
01:06:04,134 --> 01:06:06,005
but that's not a policy.
1226
01:06:06,092 --> 01:06:08,703
- More noticeable perhaps is
the absence of any criticism.
1227
01:06:08,790 --> 01:06:10,575
- The fact is that, you know,
1228
01:06:10,662 --> 01:06:12,055
he hasn't been
convicted of anything.
1229
01:06:12,142 --> 01:06:13,926
- Some of the
things he was saying
1230
01:06:14,013 --> 01:06:17,756
was actually talking points
that sounded very similar
1231
01:06:17,843 --> 01:06:20,063
to what the Russian
media will put out there.
1232
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:21,194
- [Reporter] The
fact that Ukraine
1233
01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:22,543
has not published radar data
1234
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:24,676
leads us to the
conjecture the missiles,
1235
01:06:24,763 --> 01:06:26,852
if it was a buk, was
launched from territory
1236
01:06:26,939 --> 01:06:29,289
under the control of
the Ukrainian military.
1237
01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:31,857
- If it was a Russian made
buk missile that took down
1238
01:06:31,944 --> 01:06:35,556
that plane would you hold
Putin and Russia accountable?
1239
01:06:35,643 --> 01:06:37,167
Would there be sanctions?
1240
01:06:37,254 --> 01:06:39,038
- Well, you know, they
say it wasn't them.
1241
01:06:39,125 --> 01:06:40,039
It may have been their weapon
but they didn't use it.
1242
01:06:40,126 --> 01:06:41,867
They didn't fire it.
1243
01:06:41,954 --> 01:06:43,564
They even said the other
side fired it to blame them.
1244
01:06:43,651 --> 01:06:45,871
- He never provided his
original birth certificate.
1245
01:06:45,958 --> 01:06:50,310
What he provided was a
photoshopped computer image
1246
01:06:50,397 --> 01:06:54,097
of something that was
issued only in 2007.
1247
01:06:54,184 --> 01:06:57,839
- A certificate of live birth
is not even signed by anybody.
1248
01:06:57,926 --> 01:06:58,927
I saw his.
1249
01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:00,538
I read it very carefully.
1250
01:07:00,625 --> 01:07:01,756
- They're voting for
peace on planet earth
1251
01:07:01,843 --> 01:07:03,280
if they vote for Trump.
1252
01:07:03,367 --> 01:07:06,413
But if they vote for
Hillary, it's war.
1253
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:10,330
- Now Hillary Clinton wants to
confront nuclear-armed Russia
1254
01:07:10,417 --> 01:07:13,290
that could very well lead
us into World War III.
1255
01:07:14,508 --> 01:07:16,423
- Mr. McCain was taken
prisoner in Vietnam
1256
01:07:16,510 --> 01:07:19,644
and was put not just
in jail but in a pit.
1257
01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:21,472
He sat there for several years.
1258
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:23,778
Anyone would go nuts after that.
1259
01:07:23,865 --> 01:07:26,085
- He's a war hero
'cause he was captured.
1260
01:07:26,172 --> 01:07:27,782
I like people that
weren't captured, okay,
1261
01:07:27,869 --> 01:07:28,957
I hate to tell you.
1262
01:07:30,829 --> 01:07:32,570
- Donald Trump delivered a
major foreign policy speech
1263
01:07:32,657 --> 01:07:35,790
at the Mayflower Hotel in
Washington on April 27.
1264
01:07:35,877 --> 01:07:37,444
The center for the
national interest,
1265
01:07:37,531 --> 01:07:39,011
this American Think Tank,
1266
01:07:39,098 --> 01:07:41,535
which has very close
ties to the Kremlin.
1267
01:07:41,622 --> 01:07:44,712
This Think Tank
played a leading role
1268
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,889
in drafting Donald
Trump's speech
1269
01:07:47,976 --> 01:07:51,806
and that speech was full
of Russian propaganda.
1270
01:07:51,893 --> 01:07:54,766
- We can upgrade
NATO's outdated mission
1271
01:07:54,853 --> 01:07:57,899
and structure grown
out of the Cold War.
1272
01:07:57,986 --> 01:08:01,729
I am skeptical of
international unions.
1273
01:08:01,816 --> 01:08:03,992
The U.S. must be prepared
1274
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,692
to let these countries
defend themselves.
1275
01:08:07,779 --> 01:08:11,217
Some say the Russians
won't be reasonable.
1276
01:08:11,304 --> 01:08:13,045
I intend to find out.
1277
01:08:16,004 --> 01:08:19,182
- When Paul Manafort became
the actual head of the campaign
1278
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:20,879
all of a sudden I
had a pop up window
1279
01:08:20,966 --> 01:08:23,273
come on my computer
saying that Yahoo believed
1280
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,450
that I was part of an attempt
of state sponsored actors.
1281
01:08:27,364 --> 01:08:29,627
So I was being targeted.
1282
01:08:29,714 --> 01:08:31,194
That was the first time.
1283
01:08:32,847 --> 01:08:36,416
- There was a Russian
campaign to interfere
1284
01:08:36,503 --> 01:08:38,723
in American elections
through hacking.
1285
01:08:38,810 --> 01:08:41,073
That information
appeared in the dossier
1286
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,511
before it was publicly reported
anywhere else, anywhere.
1287
01:08:44,598 --> 01:08:45,991
- You saw active measures
1288
01:08:46,078 --> 01:08:48,733
in elections across
eastern Europe.
1289
01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:50,822
No one really thought
that that would happen
1290
01:08:50,909 --> 01:08:53,651
in the U.S. base until it did.
1291
01:08:59,178 --> 01:09:03,791
- I was surprised as everyone
was but looking back on it
1292
01:09:03,878 --> 01:09:06,185
with benefit of
hindsight, obviously,
1293
01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,665
we should have probably known
1294
01:09:07,752 --> 01:09:11,016
that something like that
was going to happen.
1295
01:09:11,103 --> 01:09:13,584
- Russia is 1.6% of
the world economy.
1296
01:09:16,761 --> 01:09:21,157
They're so small but they
have, they're so centralized.
1297
01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:26,858
And when state concentrates
these resources
1298
01:09:26,945 --> 01:09:30,688
on wanting something
then it works.
1299
01:09:30,775 --> 01:09:33,169
- Russia did a wide
range of hacks.
1300
01:09:35,083 --> 01:09:38,522
Started I would guess around
August, September of 2015,
1301
01:09:38,609 --> 01:09:40,001
extended all the way
through the spring
1302
01:09:40,088 --> 01:09:42,700
and into the summer of 2016.
1303
01:09:42,787 --> 01:09:45,746
We're talking about thousands
of Americans that were hit.
1304
01:09:45,833 --> 01:09:48,706
They were going after anybody
and everybody they could.
1305
01:09:48,793 --> 01:09:51,883
Their targets include media
personalities, politicians,
1306
01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,841
government officials,
current and former.
1307
01:09:53,928 --> 01:09:56,975
Anybody that they could gain
what is ultimately information
1308
01:09:57,062 --> 01:09:59,543
or compromat that
they could use.
1309
01:09:59,630 --> 01:10:01,197
That is the nuclear fuel
1310
01:10:01,284 --> 01:10:03,286
that powers the influence
operation in '16.
1311
01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:06,419
- A couple of my
co-workers who had access
1312
01:10:06,506 --> 01:10:09,292
to my personal email used
to manage the volume.
1313
01:10:09,379 --> 01:10:12,382
One of them saw a
phishing attempt
1314
01:10:12,469 --> 01:10:16,603
from a Google source through
some mistake of communication.
1315
01:10:16,690 --> 01:10:20,825
One of our cyber
security experts in
the campaign suggested
1316
01:10:20,912 --> 01:10:23,349
to my assistant that they
change their email account.
1317
01:10:23,436 --> 01:10:27,875
So she clicked on the link
and my private email cache
1318
01:10:27,962 --> 01:10:30,356
was, you know, was exfiltrated.
1319
01:10:33,881 --> 01:10:37,320
- People were seeing this
dangerous troubling activity
1320
01:10:37,407 --> 01:10:39,844
coming from the Russians
that was actually
1321
01:10:39,931 --> 01:10:42,499
in our electoral system.
1322
01:10:42,586 --> 01:10:44,109
- Government officials
learned that they're
1323
01:10:44,196 --> 01:10:49,070
actually going into
state voter databases.
1324
01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,943
- There may have been
26 different states
1325
01:10:52,030 --> 01:10:54,293
where there were efforts
made to penetrate.
1326
01:10:54,380 --> 01:10:56,513
That's disturbing.
1327
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,691
The key to flip an election
without leaving a trace
1328
01:11:00,778 --> 01:11:02,954
is the voter rolls.
1329
01:11:03,041 --> 01:11:07,132
- It would only take
a small digital switch
1330
01:11:07,219 --> 01:11:09,003
to make that happen.
1331
01:11:09,090 --> 01:11:13,660
This really spooked
officials in the White House
1332
01:11:13,747 --> 01:11:18,665
and that's the moment I
think that the enormity
1333
01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:21,929
of the Russian
influence campaign
1334
01:11:22,016 --> 01:11:24,715
really started to hit home.
1335
01:11:24,802 --> 01:11:27,152
- The fact that
there was that attack
1336
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:30,155
on the fundamental, the
absolute fundamental
1337
01:11:30,242 --> 01:11:34,507
free and fair election should
have alarmed all of us.
1338
01:11:34,594 --> 01:11:36,857
- The Russians didn't
care if we found out.
1339
01:11:36,944 --> 01:11:38,076
This is pretty new.
1340
01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:39,425
- They stole the data.
1341
01:11:39,512 --> 01:11:40,557
Let's be clear about it.
1342
01:11:40,644 --> 01:11:41,384
I don't like this word hacking.
1343
01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:43,386
This is theft.
1344
01:11:43,473 --> 01:11:45,953
If the Russians walked into my
house and took something out,
1345
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,999
this is exactly the same thing.
1346
01:11:48,086 --> 01:11:50,523
And I think the problem that a
lot of Americans have with it
1347
01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:53,439
is they don't see it, they
don't think of it that way.
1348
01:11:53,526 --> 01:11:55,920
- The goal was
plausible deniability.
1349
01:11:56,007 --> 01:11:58,705
And you hear that even in
Vladimir Putin's statements.
1350
01:11:58,792 --> 01:12:00,185
- If they are patriotic,
1351
01:12:00,272 --> 01:12:02,187
they contribute in a
way they think is right.
1352
01:12:02,274 --> 01:12:05,799
To fight against those who
say bad things about Russia.
1353
01:12:05,886 --> 01:12:07,758
- If there were people
in the Trump Campaign
1354
01:12:07,845 --> 01:12:09,368
who colluded in any of that,
1355
01:12:09,455 --> 01:12:11,849
those people are at
serious criminal risk
1356
01:12:11,936 --> 01:12:16,419
because there were serious
crimes people committed in 2016
1357
01:12:16,506 --> 01:12:18,986
to influence the U.S. elections.
1358
01:12:19,073 --> 01:12:20,727
- Once it looked like Trump
1359
01:12:20,814 --> 01:12:23,121
was gonna be the clear nominee,
the Agalarovs resurfaced
1360
01:12:23,208 --> 01:12:25,863
and they said we are
obviously supportive
1361
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:27,995
of the Trump Campaign
but more importantly,
1362
01:12:28,082 --> 01:12:30,041
we are doing so with
the blessing of the
Russian government
1363
01:12:30,128 --> 01:12:32,217
and with the Russian
government involved.
1364
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:38,092
- And they promised there
would be the delivery
1365
01:12:38,179 --> 01:12:41,705
of information that would damage
Hillary Clinton's campaign.
1366
01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:43,924
- [Man] This is information
1367
01:12:44,011 --> 01:12:45,361
the Russian government
has collected.
1368
01:12:49,147 --> 01:12:53,281
- Donald Trump, Jr. emailed
back, great, I love it.
1369
01:12:54,848 --> 01:12:57,329
Here we see what appears to
be evidence of collusion.
1370
01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:02,682
- [Michael] Donald Trump,
Jr. forwarded the emails
1371
01:13:02,769 --> 01:13:05,163
to Paul Manafort, then
the campaign manager,
1372
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:07,513
and Jared Kushner.
1373
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,298
They both sat in on the meeting.
1374
01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:13,911
- Conspiracies are very
easy to enter into.
1375
01:13:13,998 --> 01:13:17,088
If indeed there was
just a tacit agreement
1376
01:13:17,175 --> 01:13:20,265
furthering that conspiracy,
boy, they're in.
1377
01:13:21,179 --> 01:13:23,268
And they're on the
wrong side of the law.
1378
01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:31,145
- Trump being pressed
early on in the campion
1379
01:13:32,277 --> 01:13:34,192
for a list of his
foreign policy advisors.
1380
01:13:34,279 --> 01:13:39,284
The second name he mentions
is Carter Page, PhD.
1381
01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:41,982
- No one had heard
of Carter Page.
1382
01:13:42,069 --> 01:13:44,507
He had worked for
Merrill Lynch in Moscow.
1383
01:13:44,594 --> 01:13:48,032
- [Michael] He had been
an investor in Gazprom
1384
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:52,863
and a quite vocal defender
of the Putin government.
1385
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:55,605
A critic of sanctions.
1386
01:13:55,692 --> 01:13:58,172
- Carter Page traveled
over to Moscow
1387
01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:00,174
with permission of
the Trump campaign
1388
01:14:00,261 --> 01:14:02,263
as a senior advisor
to Donald Trump.
1389
01:14:02,350 --> 01:14:05,397
- Washington and
other western capitals
1390
01:14:05,484 --> 01:14:07,965
have impeded potential progress
1391
01:14:08,052 --> 01:14:12,099
through their often
hypocritical focus on ideas
1392
01:14:12,186 --> 01:14:15,233
such as democratization,
inequality,
1393
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,017
corruption, and regime change.
1394
01:14:17,104 --> 01:14:19,803
- [Craig] The Steele Dossier
alleges that Carter Page
1395
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:22,849
met with Igor Sechin
who is head of Rozneft,
1396
01:14:22,936 --> 01:14:25,373
the enormous
Russian oil company.
1397
01:14:27,201 --> 01:14:30,422
Sechin happens to be very,
very close to Vladimir Putin.
1398
01:14:30,509 --> 01:14:31,945
- [Scott] Sechin was
his closest friend
1399
01:14:32,032 --> 01:14:33,381
in the intelligence services.
1400
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,167
- They came up with a scheme
1401
01:14:36,254 --> 01:14:39,213
by which sanctions would
be lifted on Russia.
1402
01:14:40,476 --> 01:14:44,001
In return, when parts of
Rozneft were sold off,
1403
01:14:44,088 --> 01:14:47,221
a huge portion of it, I
believe was 19% of it,
1404
01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:48,353
would be diverted.
1405
01:14:50,311 --> 01:14:51,617
- This could have
been another way
1406
01:14:51,704 --> 01:14:55,360
to funnel enormous
cash resources
1407
01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:57,318
to Donald Trump or his family.
1408
01:14:59,973 --> 01:15:03,194
America's European allies
were picking up things
1409
01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:07,067
involving interaction between
the figures associated
1410
01:15:07,154 --> 01:15:11,332
with the Trump Campaign and
Russian agents of influence
1411
01:15:11,419 --> 01:15:13,465
that they were very
disturbed about.
1412
01:15:27,348 --> 01:15:30,177
- When the administration asked
for a bipartisan statement
1413
01:15:30,264 --> 01:15:32,005
saying that Russians were active
1414
01:15:32,092 --> 01:15:33,790
and they were trying to
interfere with the election
1415
01:15:33,877 --> 01:15:35,966
they were blocked by
Republican leadership.
1416
01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:38,708
- When I was working in the
House of Representatives,
1417
01:15:38,795 --> 01:15:41,319
especially as the
Policy Director for
the House Republicans,
1418
01:15:41,406 --> 01:15:43,713
I was part of many discussions.
1419
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,193
One of them was on June 15.
1420
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,805
One of the leaders
speculated that Trump
1421
01:15:48,892 --> 01:15:51,416
had a compromising
relationship with Putin,
1422
01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:56,552
a very serious
allegation to make
1423
01:15:56,639 --> 01:15:59,424
but it was one that
everyone was thinking.
1424
01:16:04,603 --> 01:16:07,171
The leaders were afraid to
stand up to Donald Trump
1425
01:16:07,258 --> 01:16:12,263
for fear of being attacked
by his Russian troll army.
1426
01:16:29,236 --> 01:16:31,282
- [Michael] By the
time of the convention,
1427
01:16:31,369 --> 01:16:32,849
it was beginning to look
1428
01:16:32,936 --> 01:16:36,853
like there was a really
serious Russian effort.
1429
01:16:44,382 --> 01:16:45,775
- She is above the law.
1430
01:16:45,862 --> 01:16:47,298
- [Michael] Michael
Flynn had become
1431
01:16:47,385 --> 01:16:51,519
a top national security
advisor to Trump.
1432
01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:52,390
- Lock her up.
1433
01:16:55,349 --> 01:16:56,612
- What concerns me again
1434
01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:58,222
from a counter
intelligence perspective
1435
01:16:58,309 --> 01:17:00,050
is the pattern that
Flynn has established.
1436
01:17:00,137 --> 01:17:01,965
Flynn goes to Moscow and
sits next to Vladimir Putin
1437
01:17:02,052 --> 01:17:04,707
in a lavish RT sponsored event.
1438
01:17:04,794 --> 01:17:06,317
Just like in the United States,
1439
01:17:06,404 --> 01:17:07,927
you don't get to sit
next to the president
1440
01:17:08,014 --> 01:17:09,102
of the United States
without any planning.
1441
01:17:10,713 --> 01:17:12,497
He takes money from
the Russians, from RT,
1442
01:17:12,584 --> 01:17:15,195
which is nothing more than a
propaganda arm of the Kremlin.
1443
01:17:15,282 --> 01:17:16,849
Then says he didn't
take any money.
1444
01:17:16,936 --> 01:17:19,112
- [Reporter] Were you
paid for that amount?
1445
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:22,725
- You have to ask my, the
folks that went over there to--
1446
01:17:22,812 --> 01:17:23,900
- I'm asking you.
1447
01:17:23,987 --> 01:17:25,423
You'd know if you were paid.
1448
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:26,685
- I didn't take any
money from Russia
1449
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:28,165
if that's what you're asking me.
1450
01:17:28,252 --> 01:17:29,296
- Well then who paid you?
1451
01:17:29,383 --> 01:17:31,124
- My Speaker's Bureau.
1452
01:17:31,211 --> 01:17:33,649
- The Speakers Bureau is
merely the pass through
1453
01:17:33,736 --> 01:17:38,001
for the organization that's
paying for the speech.
1454
01:17:38,088 --> 01:17:40,525
Flynn had given the same answer
1455
01:17:40,612 --> 01:17:43,397
when he was trying to get
his security clearance.
1456
01:17:46,183 --> 01:17:48,446
- At that convention, the
Republican party did something
1457
01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:51,014
that they almost have
never done before
1458
01:17:51,101 --> 01:17:53,407
which was take out
of their platform,
1459
01:17:53,494 --> 01:17:55,888
language that was
standing up for Ukraine
1460
01:17:55,975 --> 01:17:58,021
and standing against Russia.
1461
01:17:58,108 --> 01:17:59,762
- I was confident
that was gonna be
1462
01:17:59,849 --> 01:18:01,459
a part of our party platform.
1463
01:18:01,546 --> 01:18:03,069
It was before.
1464
01:18:03,156 --> 01:18:06,290
All of a sudden
somewhere it disappeared.
1465
01:18:06,377 --> 01:18:08,640
- J.D. Gordon, his
account is that it was
1466
01:18:08,727 --> 01:18:10,947
at the request of
the Trump Campaign.
1467
01:18:11,034 --> 01:18:15,734
- And I think that's part
of this whole scandal
1468
01:18:15,821 --> 01:18:17,780
that needs to be resolved.
1469
01:18:17,867 --> 01:18:21,566
Why would the
Republican party remove
1470
01:18:21,653 --> 01:18:26,223
a provision that would help
people who had been invaded
1471
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:29,052
and slaughtered
defend themselves?
1472
01:18:29,139 --> 01:18:29,922
Interesting.
1473
01:18:44,197 --> 01:18:46,286
- When we went into
the convention,
1474
01:18:46,373 --> 01:18:49,202
we had to contend with
that first drop of emails.
1475
01:18:49,289 --> 01:18:51,814
- Just that the DNC employee--
- It's Russia.
1476
01:18:51,901 --> 01:18:53,337
Adverse.
1477
01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:54,773
They were in
communication or in touch
1478
01:18:54,860 --> 01:18:57,602
with Julian Assange
at Wikileaks.
1479
01:18:57,689 --> 01:18:59,822
- And then they published
that data in a way
1480
01:18:59,909 --> 01:19:03,260
to help Trump and
hurt Hillary Clinton.
1481
01:19:03,347 --> 01:19:05,262
- When Wikileaks was
originally founded
1482
01:19:05,349 --> 01:19:09,222
I don't think it had the
intention of influencing
1483
01:19:09,309 --> 01:19:13,139
the 2016 American election
but was it the goal
1484
01:19:13,226 --> 01:19:16,534
after Assange announced that
he wanted to harm Hillary.
1485
01:19:16,621 --> 01:19:17,404
You bet.
1486
01:19:18,405 --> 01:19:19,624
I mean, he said so.
1487
01:19:21,452 --> 01:19:22,888
From that standpoint, it
was a match made in heaven.
1488
01:19:24,803 --> 01:19:28,328
- [John] They were actively
in the systems of Democratic
1489
01:19:28,415 --> 01:19:31,244
and as we now know
Republicans as well.
1490
01:19:31,331 --> 01:19:33,377
- We'll publish the
embarrassing material
1491
01:19:33,464 --> 01:19:35,771
from the hack into the DNC.
1492
01:19:35,858 --> 01:19:39,513
We won't publish
the embarrassing
material in the RNC.
1493
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,211
- There were more
damaging ones on Manafort
1494
01:19:41,298 --> 01:19:42,038
that they could have dropped.
1495
01:19:42,125 --> 01:19:43,953
They didn't.
1496
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,869
It really exposed a lot of
personal contact information.
1497
01:19:46,956 --> 01:19:49,872
So many staff were getting
harassment calls for weeks.
1498
01:19:49,959 --> 01:19:53,179
- As we learned more
first about the DNC,
1499
01:19:53,266 --> 01:19:57,793
he basically invited them to
try to, you know, hack into me.
1500
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,013
- He blurts things
out that sound to me
1501
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:05,496
as a prosecutor almost
like an effort to confess.
1502
01:20:05,583 --> 01:20:08,673
- Russia, if you're
listening, I hope you're able
1503
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:13,765
to find the 30,000
emails that are missing.
1504
01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:19,379
- If you were in fact
conspiring with Russia
1505
01:20:20,598 --> 01:20:22,905
and encouraging them
to help your campaign
1506
01:20:22,992 --> 01:20:25,777
and signaling them as to
what you wanted them to do...
1507
01:20:25,864 --> 01:20:27,387
- I think you will probably
1508
01:20:27,474 --> 01:20:30,129
be rewarded mightily
by our press.
1509
01:20:32,436 --> 01:20:36,353
- There's a pretty good
suggestion right there
1510
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,746
but in this case made in
plain view in open daylight
1511
01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:41,445
at high noon, it's a little odd.
1512
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:47,451
- Campaign was over.
1513
01:20:47,538 --> 01:20:48,626
Bernie had lost.
1514
01:20:48,713 --> 01:20:51,455
I was assisting in helping with
1515
01:20:51,542 --> 01:20:54,501
a number of Facebook
pages here in California.
1516
01:20:54,588 --> 01:20:57,940
I started to see strange
people appearing.
1517
01:20:58,027 --> 01:21:02,422
Their posts were coming from
American sounding websites
1518
01:21:02,509 --> 01:21:06,035
but when I peeled
away the layers,
1519
01:21:06,122 --> 01:21:08,472
eastern Europe became
a common theme.
1520
01:21:09,690 --> 01:21:12,171
They were propaganda pieces.
1521
01:21:12,258 --> 01:21:14,130
Not a single one of them true.
1522
01:21:14,217 --> 01:21:17,089
All viciously anti-Hillary.
1523
01:21:17,176 --> 01:21:20,092
This isn't just
one Sanders page.
1524
01:21:20,179 --> 01:21:22,616
It's Latinos for
Sanders, Pennsylvania,
1525
01:21:22,703 --> 01:21:24,618
Wisconsin, Michigan for Sanders.
1526
01:21:24,705 --> 01:21:26,533
It kept on going.
1527
01:21:26,620 --> 01:21:30,102
- While we were focusing on
the positive of social media
1528
01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:33,976
and information technology,
Russia was looking at how
1529
01:21:34,063 --> 01:21:35,542
to use that as an instrument
1530
01:21:35,629 --> 01:21:38,545
and they have been
incredibly effective.
1531
01:21:38,632 --> 01:21:41,635
- Cyber with social media,
with things like RT.
1532
01:21:41,722 --> 01:21:43,594
They can reach out to
western publics in a way
1533
01:21:43,681 --> 01:21:46,727
that they couldn't
do 35, 40 years ago.
1534
01:21:46,814 --> 01:21:49,165
Some of their predecessors
would be really envious
1535
01:21:49,252 --> 01:21:51,080
of the techniques
that they have now.
1536
01:21:51,167 --> 01:21:53,778
- How the Russian state does
influence operations online
1537
01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:55,258
is pretty complex.
1538
01:21:55,345 --> 01:21:57,608
On the one hand you have
real people, trolls.
1539
01:21:57,695 --> 01:22:00,959
A bigger part is actually
digital disinformation.
1540
01:22:01,046 --> 01:22:05,572
Making user accounts
that are algorithms.
1541
01:22:05,659 --> 01:22:09,794
This is the evolution of
artificial intelligence online.
1542
01:22:09,881 --> 01:22:12,492
- Russians figured out
how you game Google.
1543
01:22:12,579 --> 01:22:15,060
If you have enough
bots to drive it
1544
01:22:15,147 --> 01:22:17,454
to the top of the
Google suggestion list.
1545
01:22:17,541 --> 01:22:18,934
- Any wedge that's there,
1546
01:22:19,021 --> 01:22:20,674
they're gonna test
that audience out.
1547
01:22:20,761 --> 01:22:22,676
And when they find success
then they exploit it.
1548
01:22:22,763 --> 01:22:24,678
They double down on it.
1549
01:22:24,765 --> 01:22:26,115
You might see them show up
1550
01:22:26,202 --> 01:22:27,986
around Black Lives
Matter protests.
1551
01:22:28,073 --> 01:22:30,206
And in the counter
protest movement.
1552
01:22:30,293 --> 01:22:32,512
Any anti-government or
white supremacist group.
1553
01:22:32,599 --> 01:22:34,645
Nationalists, non-globalists.
1554
01:22:34,732 --> 01:22:38,649
Anti-EU, anti-NATO,
anti-immigration.
1555
01:22:38,736 --> 01:22:42,783
- Promoting the far right,
promoting the far left,
1556
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:46,091
so that our politics
become more polarized,
1557
01:22:46,178 --> 01:22:48,746
then Putin can feed
lies to either side
1558
01:22:48,833 --> 01:22:50,835
because they hate
each other so much.
1559
01:22:51,967 --> 01:22:54,578
If we're divided as Americans
1560
01:22:54,665 --> 01:22:58,364
then it's harder for us to
stand up to that influence.
1561
01:22:58,451 --> 01:23:00,671
- They know that in the
west there's a tendency
1562
01:23:00,758 --> 01:23:02,760
towards positivism,
there's a tendency towards,
1563
01:23:02,847 --> 01:23:03,891
well, I don't know.
1564
01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:05,023
That's a story that's out there.
1565
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:05,806
We just can't discredit it.
1566
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:06,894
We have to.
1567
01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:08,374
Maybe the media is right.
1568
01:23:08,461 --> 01:23:10,159
The Russians know that
we do this as westerners.
1569
01:23:10,246 --> 01:23:11,943
They see it coming and
they take it to the bank
1570
01:23:12,030 --> 01:23:13,292
every single time.
1571
01:23:13,379 --> 01:23:14,641
- The westerners are lazy.
1572
01:23:14,728 --> 01:23:16,165
I mean, they don't do research.
1573
01:23:16,252 --> 01:23:18,558
Russians have already
done everything for them
1574
01:23:18,645 --> 01:23:21,605
and they know how to pack it
and how to feed it to them.
1575
01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:23,911
- Russia wins the audience first
1576
01:23:23,999 --> 01:23:25,565
and then directs them somewhere.
1577
01:23:25,652 --> 01:23:27,567
It's very different from
American approaches.
1578
01:23:27,654 --> 01:23:29,178
Americans are impatient.
1579
01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:31,658
You just create
pictures, you create bios
1580
01:23:31,745 --> 01:23:34,096
that look like accounts that
are from these locations
1581
01:23:34,183 --> 01:23:36,881
because people are more
likely to take in information
1582
01:23:36,968 --> 01:23:39,405
from people that look like
them and talk like them.
1583
01:23:39,492 --> 01:23:41,103
Follow everybody that's
in that community.
1584
01:23:41,190 --> 01:23:42,756
You retweet what they say.
1585
01:23:42,843 --> 01:23:44,715
Lowering the guard
of that audience
1586
01:23:44,802 --> 01:23:47,413
so they would accept Russian
information or Russian views.
1587
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:50,373
Over time you can insert
in the content you want.
1588
01:23:52,462 --> 01:23:54,594
- [Reporter] In this office
building in St. Petersburg,
1589
01:23:54,681 --> 01:23:56,248
an army of trolls.
1590
01:23:56,335 --> 01:23:58,033
They were even caught on camera
1591
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,644
secretly filmed by
a former employee.
1592
01:24:00,731 --> 01:24:02,646
- The U.S. elections
are the key issue
1593
01:24:02,733 --> 01:24:04,952
for the Kremlin and of
course Russia has invested
1594
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,954
a lot of effort into them.
1595
01:24:07,042 --> 01:24:08,782
It's so sophisticated
and adapted
1596
01:24:08,869 --> 01:24:10,523
for the tastes of internet users
1597
01:24:10,610 --> 01:24:12,743
that it's almost
impossible to recognize.
1598
01:24:12,830 --> 01:24:14,658
- You have serious quotas.
1599
01:24:14,745 --> 01:24:17,748
So in an hour you have to
produce 20 tweets, 30 comments
1600
01:24:17,835 --> 01:24:19,750
on these websites.
1601
01:24:19,837 --> 01:24:22,057
So, it's actually like a work
environment for these people.
1602
01:24:22,144 --> 01:24:24,842
- [Reporter] 12 hours a
day praising the Kremlin,
1603
01:24:24,929 --> 01:24:27,062
berating its enemies.
1604
01:24:27,149 --> 01:24:29,716
- I myself have a number
of Russian trolls.
1605
01:24:29,803 --> 01:24:32,937
I know whenever I refer to the
illegal annexation of Crimea
1606
01:24:33,024 --> 01:24:35,200
I get, you know, quite
a bit of criticism.
1607
01:24:35,287 --> 01:24:36,462
- An interview like this,
1608
01:24:36,549 --> 01:24:37,898
once it goes out
on the internet,
1609
01:24:37,985 --> 01:24:39,117
I'll receive some
sort of trolling
1610
01:24:39,204 --> 01:24:40,771
very specifically around it.
1611
01:24:40,858 --> 01:24:43,295
The goal is essentially
to get you to shut up.
1612
01:24:43,382 --> 01:24:45,167
And to not be a challenger.
1613
01:24:45,254 --> 01:24:46,907
They'll threaten
lawsuits, for example,
1614
01:24:46,994 --> 01:24:48,996
because they know nothing
effects an American
1615
01:24:49,084 --> 01:24:50,650
like the threat of a lawsuit.
1616
01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,350
If you're operating in Europe,
the closer you get to Moscow,
1617
01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:57,179
the more your physical
life is actually in danger.
1618
01:24:57,266 --> 01:24:59,703
[gun firing]
1619
01:25:00,921 --> 01:25:02,836
They can try and break
into your bank accounts,
1620
01:25:02,923 --> 01:25:04,403
attack you financially,
1621
01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:06,013
and if they can't
get to you personally
1622
01:25:06,101 --> 01:25:07,972
they'll target your family.
1623
01:25:08,059 --> 01:25:09,800
They create false stories,
1624
01:25:09,887 --> 01:25:12,803
seed it out there to try
and destroy your reputation.
1625
01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:16,807
- You plant an idea,
a fake story, a lie.
1626
01:25:16,894 --> 01:25:18,374
- It will take on
a life of its own
1627
01:25:18,461 --> 01:25:19,723
and you don't have
to do the propaganda.
1628
01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:21,551
The audience will do it for you.
1629
01:25:22,813 --> 01:25:25,729
Seth Rich was a campaign
worker for Hillary Clinton.
1630
01:25:25,816 --> 01:25:27,513
He turned up dead.
1631
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,907
The Seth Rich story
was that he was the one
1632
01:25:29,994 --> 01:25:32,605
who stole the Democratic
Committee emails.
1633
01:25:32,692 --> 01:25:34,912
There's no evidence
to support that.
1634
01:25:34,999 --> 01:25:36,827
Today is, it's an
unsolved murder
1635
01:25:36,914 --> 01:25:39,046
but it's propagated both
by the alternative right
1636
01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:40,874
but also by groups
like Wikileaks.
1637
01:25:40,961 --> 01:25:42,702
Even to the point where
you have Russian ambassador
1638
01:25:42,789 --> 01:25:44,835
show up and say I think
there might be something
1639
01:25:44,922 --> 01:25:46,402
into this Seth Rich story.
1640
01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:48,752
That doubt that's there
really covers your hand
1641
01:25:48,839 --> 01:25:50,057
over the longer term.
1642
01:25:51,537 --> 01:25:53,844
- And sometimes
the most outrageous
1643
01:25:53,931 --> 01:25:57,674
are the ones that you think
that you don't want to dignify
1644
01:25:57,761 --> 01:26:00,894
with a response to but that
I've subsequently learned
1645
01:26:00,981 --> 01:26:02,722
that's a kind of
dangerous proposition.
1646
01:26:02,809 --> 01:26:05,029
- John Podesta says let's
go over to the pizza place
1647
01:26:05,116 --> 01:26:06,639
and all of a sudden it's a story
1648
01:26:06,726 --> 01:26:09,120
about child trafficking
ring in the basement
1649
01:26:09,207 --> 01:26:11,253
which doesn't exist
in the pizza place.
1650
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:14,256
- Resulted in a person who
had been reading this stuff
1651
01:26:14,343 --> 01:26:16,780
deciding that he would deputize
himself to come up here
1652
01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:19,739
with a gun, firing that
weapon in the pizza parlor.
1653
01:26:20,566 --> 01:26:21,959
But it just sort of never ends.
1654
01:26:24,353 --> 01:26:27,182
- 2013 they were starting
to learn the power
1655
01:26:27,269 --> 01:26:28,748
of this influence.
1656
01:26:28,835 --> 01:26:32,056
In 2014 they were doing
capability development.
1657
01:26:32,143 --> 01:26:35,799
'15 was winning
audiences so that in 2016
1658
01:26:35,886 --> 01:26:38,018
you could actually go
after the U.S. election.
1659
01:26:39,585 --> 01:26:41,892
The primary message
would be one,
1660
01:26:41,979 --> 01:26:43,850
Hillary Clinton cannot
become president.
1661
01:26:43,937 --> 01:26:46,853
Second one is Trump is the
man to mend fences with Russia
1662
01:26:46,940 --> 01:26:50,292
and he's a great leader and a
nationalist much like Putin.
1663
01:26:50,379 --> 01:26:52,903
The third one was Bernie
Sanders got a raw deal
1664
01:26:52,990 --> 01:26:54,948
that you shouldn't even
come out to the polls.
1665
01:26:55,035 --> 01:26:58,822
- The Russians in line with
right wing radical media
1666
01:26:58,909 --> 01:27:03,435
were creating false
stories to generate fear
1667
01:27:03,522 --> 01:27:05,481
and in story after
story after story.
1668
01:27:05,568 --> 01:27:07,309
- [George] Secretary Clinton
had a serious disease.
1669
01:27:07,396 --> 01:27:08,788
- [Man] Multiple sclerosis.
1670
01:27:08,875 --> 01:27:09,963
- [Woman] Hillary's
gonna cause nuclear war.
1671
01:27:10,050 --> 01:27:11,487
- [Man] Murderer of 30 people.
1672
01:27:11,574 --> 01:27:13,706
- [Man] Funding Isis,
smuggling drugs.
1673
01:27:13,793 --> 01:27:15,230
- Untrustworthy.
- Pedophilia.
1674
01:27:15,317 --> 01:27:16,709
- [Woman] Crooked.
1675
01:27:16,796 --> 01:27:17,841
- Hillary Clinton
is the she devil.
1676
01:27:17,928 --> 01:27:21,061
- Totally creepy falsehood.
1677
01:27:21,148 --> 01:27:23,063
- Sometimes we found
in the United States
1678
01:27:23,150 --> 01:27:27,154
our greatest strength, free
speech, open societies,
1679
01:27:27,242 --> 01:27:32,029
a democracy can also be one of
our greatest vulnerabilities.
1680
01:27:32,116 --> 01:27:37,121
- I don't think we were
fully aware of the impact,
1681
01:27:38,078 --> 01:27:39,558
the effects that it was having.
1682
01:27:39,645 --> 01:27:42,996
So much of it seemed
surreal, ridiculous.
1683
01:27:43,083 --> 01:27:46,739
- By utilizing our
openness, they exploited us.
1684
01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:49,089
If people that I knew personally
1685
01:27:49,176 --> 01:27:51,222
to be thinking
thoughtful people,
1686
01:27:51,309 --> 01:27:54,573
if they were sharing
the propaganda, who
else was sharing?
1687
01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:56,053
- Everyone falls for fake news.
1688
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:57,489
I've fallen for fake news.
1689
01:27:57,576 --> 01:28:01,885
- Over the last 75
days, the top 20
1690
01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:05,062
demonstrably fake stories,
1691
01:28:05,149 --> 01:28:07,717
got more Facebook
likes and shares
1692
01:28:07,804 --> 01:28:11,677
than the top 20 campaign
stories from mainstream media.
1693
01:28:11,764 --> 01:28:15,855
- It laid the groundwork
for Sanders supporters
1694
01:28:15,942 --> 01:28:17,683
to say I've had it.
1695
01:28:17,770 --> 01:28:19,468
- They actually have
won over a segment
1696
01:28:19,555 --> 01:28:22,427
of the U.S. audience like
Russia's never won over before.
1697
01:28:22,514 --> 01:28:24,211
A white nationalists rally
1698
01:28:24,299 --> 01:28:26,562
in Charlottesville,
Virginia, where they chanted.
1699
01:28:31,349 --> 01:28:36,006
- Recent polling indicates
that 49% of Republican voters,
1700
01:28:36,093 --> 01:28:38,356
I'm sad to say, believe that,
1701
01:28:38,443 --> 01:28:40,924
that Putin and that
Russia are either
1702
01:28:41,011 --> 01:28:44,014
an ally or a friendly nation.
1703
01:28:44,101 --> 01:28:47,626
- The question is who
helped guide the decisions
1704
01:28:47,713 --> 01:28:49,106
that the Russians were making,
1705
01:28:49,193 --> 01:28:50,542
what ads they may have bought.
1706
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:52,457
What kinds of fake news
1707
01:28:52,544 --> 01:28:54,807
they thought would
be most effective.
1708
01:28:54,894 --> 01:28:56,853
- If you know the personality
1709
01:28:56,940 --> 01:28:58,811
of the people you're targeting,
1710
01:28:58,898 --> 01:29:01,945
you can nuance your messaging
to resonate more effectively
1711
01:29:02,032 --> 01:29:03,990
with those key audience groups.
1712
01:29:04,077 --> 01:29:07,080
This information is quite
helpful to a campaign manager.
1713
01:29:08,125 --> 01:29:10,040
- Cambridge Analytica popped up
1714
01:29:10,127 --> 01:29:13,783
growing out of an experiment,
behavioral science experiment
1715
01:29:13,870 --> 01:29:16,960
at Cambridge University
to see whether they could
1716
01:29:17,047 --> 01:29:21,704
analyze large numbers
of people using Facebook
1717
01:29:21,791 --> 01:29:25,925
because people are spilling
their feelings to their friends,
1718
01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:28,101
hundreds of millions of
people in their pool.
1719
01:29:28,188 --> 01:29:29,842
- We have somewhere close to
1720
01:29:29,929 --> 01:29:32,062
four or five thousand
data points on every adult
1721
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:33,716
in the United States.
1722
01:29:33,803 --> 01:29:35,631
We can see where these
people are on the map.
1723
01:29:35,718 --> 01:29:38,938
- They were able to take
that to micro segment.
1724
01:29:39,025 --> 01:29:42,072
You belong to a group
of 12 like-minded people
1725
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,117
exactly like you
who are interested
1726
01:29:44,204 --> 01:29:46,337
in the same things
around the country.
1727
01:29:46,424 --> 01:29:48,774
- These are people who
are definitely going
1728
01:29:48,861 --> 01:29:51,473
to vote but they need
moving from the center
1729
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,213
a little bit more
towards the right.
1730
01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:55,215
- You're not supposed
to go into Facebook
1731
01:29:55,302 --> 01:29:58,436
and harvest that
kind of information.
1732
01:29:58,523 --> 01:30:02,440
Cambridge Analytica
got its Facebook data
1733
01:30:02,527 --> 01:30:04,486
in a sort of quasi-legal way.
1734
01:30:04,573 --> 01:30:07,010
- We can look at what
issue they care about.
1735
01:30:07,097 --> 01:30:08,838
Gun rights I've selected.
1736
01:30:08,925 --> 01:30:11,536
That narrows the field
slightly more and now we know
1737
01:30:11,623 --> 01:30:13,973
that we need a
message on gun rights.
1738
01:30:14,060 --> 01:30:15,975
It needs to be a
persuasion message
1739
01:30:16,062 --> 01:30:17,586
and it needs to be nuanced
1740
01:30:17,673 --> 01:30:19,501
according to the
certain personality
1741
01:30:19,588 --> 01:30:21,198
that we're interested in.
1742
01:30:21,285 --> 01:30:23,940
- They were very involved
in the Brexit vote.
1743
01:30:25,550 --> 01:30:28,031
- We saw the Russian
bot armies, the trolls,
1744
01:30:28,118 --> 01:30:30,773
have a very pro Brexit message.
1745
01:30:30,860 --> 01:30:33,645
- There have been allegations
that Cambridge Analytica
1746
01:30:33,732 --> 01:30:38,171
supported it through a small
office above a pizza shop,
1747
01:30:38,258 --> 01:30:42,045
which is not exactly the
kind of place you think
1748
01:30:42,132 --> 01:30:45,396
would be the center for
international intrigue
1749
01:30:45,483 --> 01:30:46,876
unless it was just a cutout
1750
01:30:46,963 --> 01:30:49,966
for somebody much more
consequential behind it.
1751
01:30:51,358 --> 01:30:54,623
- [Craig] Cambridge
Analytics is owned by SCL.
1752
01:30:54,710 --> 01:30:58,540
- A larger and much more
sinister global election
1753
01:30:58,627 --> 01:31:03,196
tampering operation using
big data and technology.
1754
01:31:03,283 --> 01:31:06,112
- SCL is in turn owned
by shell companies
1755
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:08,941
that you can trace
back to Dmitry Firtash
1756
01:31:09,899 --> 01:31:12,205
who again is tied to Mogilevich.
1757
01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:18,516
That would complete
the entire string
1758
01:31:18,603 --> 01:31:21,650
and show crime boss
and Mogilevich involved
1759
01:31:21,737 --> 01:31:25,088
starting out with pure and
simple money laundering in 1984
1760
01:31:25,175 --> 01:31:28,134
with Trump properties going
forward more than 32 years
1761
01:31:28,221 --> 01:31:31,747
to the election in which
this data mining firm
1762
01:31:31,834 --> 01:31:33,879
Cambridge Analytica is
playing a very, very big role
1763
01:31:33,966 --> 01:31:36,186
in the Trump campaign
and helping him win.
1764
01:31:43,715 --> 01:31:46,196
- Of the two candidates
left in this election,
1765
01:31:46,283 --> 01:31:48,590
one of them is using
these technologies
1766
01:31:48,677 --> 01:31:50,548
and it's gonna be very
interesting to see
1767
01:31:50,635 --> 01:31:53,595
how they impact the
next several weeks.
1768
01:31:53,682 --> 01:31:55,335
Thank you.
1769
01:31:55,422 --> 01:31:56,293
- [Nina] One of the big
investors in Cambridge Analytica
1770
01:31:56,380 --> 01:31:57,947
is Robert Mercer.
1771
01:32:02,995 --> 01:32:05,215
He's a hedge fund billionaire.
1772
01:32:32,590 --> 01:32:36,028
- Cyber scientists on the
outside noticed this server
1773
01:32:36,115 --> 01:32:38,465
that was configured
in a very unusual way
1774
01:32:38,553 --> 01:32:42,731
that was a direct link
essentially from a Russian bank,
1775
01:32:42,818 --> 01:32:45,342
Alfa bank, and Trump Tower.
1776
01:32:48,258 --> 01:32:50,826
- [Man] That would
obviously explain
1777
01:32:50,913 --> 01:32:53,132
a major path of communications.
1778
01:32:53,219 --> 01:32:54,743
- Trump Tower.
1779
01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:57,049
They seemed to have
premonitions of things
1780
01:32:57,136 --> 01:32:59,138
that were gonna happen
that in fact did happen.
1781
01:32:59,225 --> 01:33:01,706
Roger Stone in August
saying it would be my turn
1782
01:33:01,793 --> 01:33:04,013
at the barrel while
he simultaneously
1783
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,276
involved with Wikileaks.
1784
01:33:06,363 --> 01:33:11,150
- I actually have
communicated with Assange.
1785
01:33:11,237 --> 01:33:13,152
I believe the next
crunch of documents
1786
01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:16,286
pertain to the
Clinton Foundation
1787
01:33:16,373 --> 01:33:19,681
but there's no telling what
the October surprise may be.
1788
01:33:19,768 --> 01:33:23,772
- October 7, 2016, three
major things happened.
1789
01:33:23,859 --> 01:33:25,382
The Department of
Homeland Security
1790
01:33:25,469 --> 01:33:27,253
and the Director of
National Intelligence
1791
01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:30,213
made a public statement and
said the government hacking
1792
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:32,171
during the 2016
election was none other
1793
01:33:32,258 --> 01:33:34,913
than the Russian Federation
and that this decision
1794
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,351
could have only been
made by Vladimir Putin.
1795
01:33:38,438 --> 01:33:41,659
On the same day the Access
Hollywood tapes were revealed.
1796
01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:48,492
Those two things.
1797
01:33:48,579 --> 01:33:49,972
A third thing happened.
1798
01:33:50,059 --> 01:33:51,626
John Podesta's
emails were released.
1799
01:33:53,149 --> 01:33:55,412
- Wikileaks posted more
than 2,000 additional emails
1800
01:33:55,499 --> 01:33:58,589
from Hillary Clinton's
campaign chair, John Podesta.
1801
01:33:58,676 --> 01:34:00,504
- I never heard from the FBI
1802
01:34:00,591 --> 01:34:02,462
until two days after my emails
started getting released.
1803
01:34:02,549 --> 01:34:03,986
They said you may
not be aware of this
1804
01:34:04,073 --> 01:34:05,509
but your emails
have been hacked.
1805
01:34:05,596 --> 01:34:07,424
I said, yes, I've been
watching it for 48 hours
1806
01:34:07,511 --> 01:34:11,689
on every cable story,
you know, in the country.
1807
01:34:11,776 --> 01:34:14,170
That was actually the last
time I talked to the FBI.
1808
01:34:14,257 --> 01:34:16,738
- There was a lot more
that was coming out
1809
01:34:16,825 --> 01:34:19,871
that we were aware of that
we couldn't get the press
1810
01:34:19,958 --> 01:34:21,612
to pay any attention to.
1811
01:34:21,699 --> 01:34:24,659
I tried in my speeches
and then culminating
1812
01:34:24,746 --> 01:34:25,964
in the third debate.
1813
01:34:26,051 --> 01:34:28,967
- Look, from everything I see
1814
01:34:29,054 --> 01:34:32,710
has no respect for this person.
1815
01:34:32,797 --> 01:34:34,277
- Well, that's
because he'd rather
1816
01:34:34,364 --> 01:34:36,366
have a puppet as president.
- No puppet.
1817
01:34:36,453 --> 01:34:37,889
No puppet.
1818
01:34:37,976 --> 01:34:38,847
- United States and
it's pretty clear.
1819
01:34:38,934 --> 01:34:40,370
- You're the puppet.
1820
01:34:40,457 --> 01:34:41,458
- It's pretty clear
you won't admit--
1821
01:34:41,545 --> 01:34:42,372
- [Donald] No you won't--
1822
01:34:42,459 --> 01:34:44,243
- That the Russians have engaged
1823
01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:46,028
in cyber-attacks against the
United States of America.
1824
01:34:46,115 --> 01:34:50,641
That you encouraged
espionage against our people.
1825
01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:54,340
That you are willing to
spout the Putin line,
1826
01:34:54,427 --> 01:34:57,474
sign up for his wish
list, break up NATO,
1827
01:34:57,561 --> 01:34:59,781
do whatever he wants to do.
1828
01:34:59,868 --> 01:35:02,348
- We went into election
day believing that we had
1829
01:35:02,435 --> 01:35:05,134
a lead in the popular vote
which proved to be true.
1830
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,137
Michigan, Wisconsin
and Pennsylvania,
1831
01:35:08,224 --> 01:35:10,269
we felt like we had a
lead in all those states
1832
01:35:10,356 --> 01:35:12,184
and that proved to be not true
1833
01:35:12,271 --> 01:35:15,361
so he won by a combined
total in those three states
1834
01:35:15,448 --> 01:35:17,450
of 70,000 votes and
gave him the presidency.
1835
01:35:26,503 --> 01:35:27,983
- Sorry to keep you waiting.
1836
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:29,724
Complicated business.
1837
01:35:49,221 --> 01:35:50,701
- During the transition,
1838
01:35:50,788 --> 01:35:54,444
Jared Kushner met with a
sanctioned Russian bank.
1839
01:35:54,531 --> 01:35:55,967
- Gorkov, the head of that bank,
1840
01:35:56,054 --> 01:35:58,056
got his training not in
the banker's academy.
1841
01:35:58,143 --> 01:36:00,232
He's a trained KGB agent.
1842
01:36:01,625 --> 01:36:03,409
And its offices all
around the world
1843
01:36:03,496 --> 01:36:05,977
are always understood
to be providing cover
1844
01:36:06,064 --> 01:36:07,979
for Russian
intelligence operations.
1845
01:36:08,066 --> 01:36:10,547
- What did you really speak
to Jared Kushner about
1846
01:36:10,634 --> 01:36:13,158
in New York when you
met him in December?
1847
01:36:13,245 --> 01:36:15,595
- [Reporter] The Russian bank
said they talked business.
1848
01:36:15,682 --> 01:36:19,425
White House says they talked
future U.S./Russia relations.
1849
01:36:19,512 --> 01:36:21,558
- If he was doing this
for business purposes
1850
01:36:21,645 --> 01:36:23,125
it would be a
violation of the law.
1851
01:36:23,212 --> 01:36:25,431
If he was doing this
for political purposes
1852
01:36:25,518 --> 01:36:27,216
there are serious
questions about whether he
1853
01:36:27,303 --> 01:36:29,566
or anyone on the campaign
were working with Russians
1854
01:36:29,653 --> 01:36:31,220
during the
interference campaign.
1855
01:36:31,307 --> 01:36:33,439
- The crown jewel for
any intelligence agency
1856
01:36:33,526 --> 01:36:36,573
is to recruit an asset inside
1857
01:36:36,660 --> 01:36:38,531
your adversary's
intelligence agency
1858
01:36:40,490 --> 01:36:42,535
because that person
can of course report
1859
01:36:42,622 --> 01:36:45,756
on intelligence operations
against your own country.
1860
01:36:45,843 --> 01:36:48,367
- For Donald Trump
to put Michael Flynn
1861
01:36:48,454 --> 01:36:50,369
in the role of National
Security Advisor
1862
01:36:50,456 --> 01:36:53,895
shows that they were
extremely incompetent
1863
01:36:53,982 --> 01:36:56,680
in their vetting of an
individual who was working
1864
01:36:56,767 --> 01:36:59,901
as an unregistered foreign
agent on behalf of Turkey.
1865
01:36:59,988 --> 01:37:03,295
Who had extensive ties to a
foreign adversary in Russia
1866
01:37:03,382 --> 01:37:06,603
and wasn't disclosing
those ties or that was one
1867
01:37:06,690 --> 01:37:10,476
of his highest qualifications
and Donald Trump liked that.
1868
01:37:10,563 --> 01:37:15,307
- I was invited to take my
old job as CIA director back.
1869
01:37:15,394 --> 01:37:17,962
And I learned that I
would have had to report
1870
01:37:18,049 --> 01:37:20,399
to the president
through Mike Flynn.
1871
01:37:20,486 --> 01:37:22,706
They pressed me to go
to a particular meeting
1872
01:37:22,793 --> 01:37:25,230
where there were
several Turks present
1873
01:37:25,317 --> 01:37:27,798
and it was clear they
were thinking seriously
1874
01:37:27,885 --> 01:37:31,454
about taking him into custody
Gulan in Western Pennsylvania
1875
01:37:31,541 --> 01:37:34,022
which would have been completely
illegal under American law.
1876
01:37:34,109 --> 01:37:36,067
I told them that and left.
1877
01:37:38,591 --> 01:37:41,594
I decided I did not want
to report through Mike
1878
01:37:41,681 --> 01:37:44,728
and so I turned down the offer.
1879
01:37:44,815 --> 01:37:46,251
- President-elect Donald Trump
1880
01:37:46,338 --> 01:37:48,210
sent out an email
announcing his pick
1881
01:37:48,297 --> 01:37:49,820
for Secretary of State.
1882
01:37:49,907 --> 01:37:52,518
Exxon Mobil chairman
and CEO Rex Tillerson,
1883
01:37:52,605 --> 01:37:55,826
despite concerns over
his close ties to Russia.
1884
01:37:57,045 --> 01:37:58,524
- I mean, this is
a guy who was given
1885
01:37:58,611 --> 01:38:01,527
a friendship award
by Vladimir Putin.
1886
01:38:01,614 --> 01:38:03,616
- I have a very close
relationship with him
1887
01:38:03,703 --> 01:38:06,445
which dates back
almost 15 years now.
1888
01:38:06,532 --> 01:38:09,666
- I believe that Rex Tillerson
was chosen by Donald Trump
1889
01:38:09,753 --> 01:38:11,711
for primarily one reason.
1890
01:38:11,798 --> 01:38:16,064
He would not stand in
the way of Donald Trump's
1891
01:38:16,151 --> 01:38:19,937
prevailing policy
interests which is to align
1892
01:38:20,024 --> 01:38:23,767
the United States with
Vladimir Putin's regime.
1893
01:38:23,854 --> 01:38:26,509
And I think that's
exactly what he's done.
1894
01:38:26,596 --> 01:38:27,902
He's facilitated it.
1895
01:38:29,860 --> 01:38:32,080
- Putin and Rex Tillerson had
been trying to put together
1896
01:38:32,167 --> 01:38:36,606
a 500 billion dollar
Arctic Exploration deal.
1897
01:38:36,693 --> 01:38:39,130
- Exxon Mobil has won a
highly coveted contract
1898
01:38:39,217 --> 01:38:40,784
with Russia's Rozneft.
1899
01:38:40,871 --> 01:38:43,134
- You know, my philosophy
is to make money.
1900
01:38:43,221 --> 01:38:46,964
And so if I can
drill and make money
1901
01:38:47,051 --> 01:38:48,792
then that's what I want to do.
1902
01:38:51,534 --> 01:38:54,145
- But it had been put on hold
by the Obama Administration
1903
01:38:54,232 --> 01:38:55,886
when the sanctions were imposed.
1904
01:38:57,627 --> 01:38:59,672
- One of the fascinating
things in that dossier,
1905
01:38:59,759 --> 01:39:01,500
Steele sources told
him that Rozneft,
1906
01:39:01,587 --> 01:39:03,589
big Russian oil company
owned by the state,
1907
01:39:03,676 --> 01:39:06,201
that 19% of it was
gonna be sold off.
1908
01:39:06,288 --> 01:39:08,507
And that there'd be money for
people who were able to get.
1909
01:39:08,594 --> 01:39:09,856
U.S. sanctions removed.
1910
01:39:14,774 --> 01:39:19,779
Well, sure enough in December
that percentage of Rozneft
1911
01:39:21,085 --> 01:39:23,783
was sold off in a method by
which involved Shell companies
1912
01:39:23,870 --> 01:39:26,134
in the Grand Caymans
which are nontransparent
1913
01:39:26,221 --> 01:39:27,787
so which you can't penetrate.
1914
01:39:29,398 --> 01:39:31,966
- Only someone in
the highest echelons
1915
01:39:32,053 --> 01:39:34,838
of Rozneft would have
access to that information.
1916
01:39:38,798 --> 01:39:41,497
- And obviously somebody
talking to Chris Steele
1917
01:39:41,584 --> 01:39:45,153
knew a lot about it many
months before it happened.
1918
01:39:49,461 --> 01:39:51,594
- The Russian hand in
these influence efforts,
1919
01:39:51,681 --> 01:39:52,769
ultimately they'll
try and hide it
1920
01:39:52,856 --> 01:39:54,423
and they do it with two methods,
1921
01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:57,121
putting them in jail
or killing people off.
1922
01:39:57,208 --> 01:39:59,732
[gun firing]
1923
01:39:59,819 --> 01:40:02,126
- Arrests in which
people were dragged out
1924
01:40:02,213 --> 01:40:04,607
had black bags put
over their heads.
1925
01:40:04,694 --> 01:40:06,391
Charged for treason.
1926
01:40:06,478 --> 01:40:09,568
These people may have
been Chris Steele sources
1927
01:40:09,655 --> 01:40:12,745
or Russian intelligence may
have suspected that they were.
1928
01:40:14,182 --> 01:40:17,011
The day after Christmas,
General Oleg Erovenkin,
1929
01:40:17,098 --> 01:40:21,406
who was the Chief of Staff
of Rozneft was assassinated
1930
01:40:21,493 --> 01:40:24,540
in the back of a car in
the center of Moscow.
1931
01:40:24,627 --> 01:40:27,238
- [Clint] The head of RT
English mysterious death
1932
01:40:27,325 --> 01:40:28,631
in Washington, D.C.
1933
01:40:30,415 --> 01:40:32,113
A Russian diplomat stationed
here in New York City
1934
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,245
had actually died
on election day.
1935
01:40:36,117 --> 01:40:38,728
- You've got obvious interests
on the part of the Russians.
1936
01:40:38,815 --> 01:40:40,773
And of course on the
other side of the equation
1937
01:40:40,860 --> 01:40:42,775
you have all of these
contacts going back to Russia,
1938
01:40:42,862 --> 01:40:44,995
whether it's Roger Stone,
whether it's Flynn.
1939
01:40:45,082 --> 01:40:46,431
Whether it's any of these folks,
1940
01:40:46,518 --> 01:40:48,216
there is simply
way too much smoke
1941
01:40:48,303 --> 01:40:50,696
for there to be absolutely
no fire whatsoever.
1942
01:40:50,783 --> 01:40:53,699
[light intense music]
1943
01:41:07,061 --> 01:41:11,326
- That I forget how many
tentacles this has. [laughs]
1944
01:41:11,413 --> 01:41:15,721
It's just sort of anyone of
these is a massive story.
1945
01:41:23,642 --> 01:41:26,558
It's unrealistic to think it's
limited to what we know now.
1946
01:41:26,645 --> 01:41:29,692
Rather than look at this as
one isolated money laundering
1947
01:41:29,779 --> 01:41:33,609
after another or one criminal
appearing after another.
1948
01:41:33,696 --> 01:41:34,827
I think it's much more than that
1949
01:41:34,914 --> 01:41:37,395
and what you have is probably
1950
01:41:37,482 --> 01:41:40,920
the biggest intelligence breach
in the history of the world.
1951
01:41:41,007 --> 01:41:44,489
- So to be clear Mr. Trump
has no financial relationships
1952
01:41:44,576 --> 01:41:46,274
with any Russian oligarchs?
1953
01:41:46,361 --> 01:41:47,318
- That that's what he said.
1954
01:41:47,405 --> 01:41:48,276
I didn't.
1955
01:41:48,363 --> 01:41:49,799
That's what I said.
1956
01:41:49,886 --> 01:41:51,148
That's obviously
what our position is.
1957
01:42:06,816 --> 01:42:08,470
- Do you solemnly swear.
1958
01:42:08,557 --> 01:42:11,864
- The office of President
of the United States.
1959
01:42:11,951 --> 01:42:14,998
[intense somber music]
1960
01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:44,114
- The president is, I believe,
a puppet of Vladimir Putin.
1961
01:42:45,681 --> 01:42:49,075
That is the mere challenge
that we face as Americans.
1962
01:42:50,294 --> 01:42:53,732
- He has tried to
deliver for Russia.
1963
01:42:53,819 --> 01:42:56,866
He wanted to take off
sanctions immediately.
1964
01:42:56,953 --> 01:42:59,825
- I was in the administration
for the first five weeks
1965
01:42:59,912 --> 01:43:01,914
of Trump where,
among other things,
1966
01:43:02,001 --> 01:43:04,221
I was responsible for
the Russia sanctions.
1967
01:43:04,308 --> 01:43:06,658
And I'm one of the
people who was worried
1968
01:43:06,745 --> 01:43:08,965
that the Trump
Administration would suddenly
1969
01:43:09,052 --> 01:43:10,358
lift the sanctions unilaterally.
1970
01:43:10,445 --> 01:43:11,968
And I stand by it now.
1971
01:43:15,363 --> 01:43:16,842
- You don't have to
have been a lawyer.
1972
01:43:16,929 --> 01:43:18,757
You don't have to have
been in a cover-up
1973
01:43:18,844 --> 01:43:21,978
to see when somebody is acting
like they're covering up.
1974
01:43:22,065 --> 01:43:24,937
This man is clearly
inconspicuously doing so.
1975
01:43:28,941 --> 01:43:32,423
- I don't know how a president
can handle this situation
1976
01:43:32,510 --> 01:43:34,295
worse than President
Trump is now.
1977
01:43:35,731 --> 01:43:37,646
His actions at the G20,
1978
01:43:37,733 --> 01:43:40,866
his talk of maybe getting
a cyber partnership.
1979
01:43:44,087 --> 01:43:46,916
You don't go to somebody who
just punched you in the face
1980
01:43:47,003 --> 01:43:48,352
and then offer them a favor.
1981
01:43:54,967 --> 01:43:56,665
- Trump has to have
known he was compromised.
1982
01:43:56,752 --> 01:43:58,884
He's got to know the eyes
of the world are on him.
1983
01:43:58,971 --> 01:44:02,018
And suddenly all these forces
will be out to expose him.
1984
01:44:02,105 --> 01:44:04,934
I cannot imagine living with
that every day, you know.
1985
01:44:08,416 --> 01:44:12,463
- The Trump campaign's
biggest potential exposure
1986
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:14,900
is gonna be in their
financial dealings.
1987
01:44:14,987 --> 01:44:18,121
It's very hard to
cover up money trails.
1988
01:44:19,775 --> 01:44:23,126
The other one is
obstruction of justice.
1989
01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:25,607
- Collusion is a media shorthand
1990
01:44:25,694 --> 01:44:28,131
for could be aiding
and abetting.
1991
01:44:28,218 --> 01:44:29,828
Conspiracy.
1992
01:44:29,915 --> 01:44:32,918
It could be aid and
comfort which is treason.
1993
01:44:34,964 --> 01:44:38,968
- The Russia story is
a total fabrication.
1994
01:44:39,055 --> 01:44:41,884
What the prosecutors
should be looking at
1995
01:44:41,971 --> 01:44:45,670
are Hillary Clinton's
33,000 deleted emails.
1996
01:44:49,500 --> 01:44:50,501
- Lock her up!
1997
01:44:50,588 --> 01:44:52,024
Lock her up!
1998
01:44:52,111 --> 01:44:53,243
Lock her up!
1999
01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:54,679
Lock her up!
2000
01:44:54,766 --> 01:44:57,334
[crowd yelling]
2001
01:44:59,858 --> 01:45:00,859
Lock her up!
2002
01:45:00,946 --> 01:45:02,296
Lock her up!
2003
01:45:02,383 --> 01:45:03,819
Lock her up!
2004
01:45:03,906 --> 01:45:05,037
Lock her up!
2005
01:45:05,124 --> 01:45:06,517
Lock her up!
2006
01:45:06,604 --> 01:45:07,605
Lock her up!
2007
01:45:10,739 --> 01:45:12,523
- It is ongoing.
2008
01:45:12,610 --> 01:45:16,353
The Russians efforts here
are continuing as we speak.
2009
01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:17,789
- We've done zero.
2010
01:45:17,876 --> 01:45:20,966
Absolutely nothing to protect us
2011
01:45:21,053 --> 01:45:24,579
from a future cyber-attack
with respect to any election.
2012
01:45:24,666 --> 01:45:25,667
Zero.
2013
01:45:25,754 --> 01:45:27,451
We haven't done anything.
2014
01:45:27,538 --> 01:45:29,105
- As long as people can
do things without penalty
2015
01:45:29,192 --> 01:45:31,847
they're going to
continue to do them.
2016
01:45:31,934 --> 01:45:33,718
- We all have a stake
because it may have been
2017
01:45:33,805 --> 01:45:35,633
the Democrats and me this time.
2018
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,288
It can be the Republicans and
their candidate next time.
2019
01:45:38,375 --> 01:45:40,464
- Every single national security
official we've talked to
2020
01:45:40,551 --> 01:45:42,640
has said they're coming back.
2021
01:45:42,727 --> 01:45:44,163
We have to be ready for that.
2022
01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:45,730
- And if the people
don't demand that.
2023
01:45:45,817 --> 01:45:48,037
If they don't demand
that our sovereignty
2024
01:45:48,124 --> 01:45:51,345
needs to be defended, our
representatives in Congress
2025
01:45:51,432 --> 01:45:53,956
are gonna kind of look
the other way and move on.
2026
01:45:54,043 --> 01:45:57,046
- What's at stake is truth.
2027
01:45:57,133 --> 01:46:01,964
What's at stake is government
that's accountable to us.
2028
01:46:02,051 --> 01:46:04,096
And the cause of liberty
2029
01:46:04,183 --> 01:46:08,144
at the most profound
level possible.
2030
01:46:08,231 --> 01:46:10,451
- We owe it to the people
who have fought for
2031
01:46:10,538 --> 01:46:12,714
and sacrificed
for this democracy
2032
01:46:12,801 --> 01:46:15,020
and to be guardians
of it and make sure
2033
01:46:15,107 --> 01:46:17,458
that we always have
free and fair elections.
2034
01:46:17,545 --> 01:46:20,156
[ominous music]
2035
01:46:24,856 --> 01:46:28,207
[upbeat electro music]
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