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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 2 00:00:31,260 --> 00:00:35,460 Duran Duran is a pop group for young people with a lot of energy. 3 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:43,420 Her name is Rio she don't need to understand 4 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:48,860 And I might find her if I'm looking like I can. 5 00:00:48,980 --> 00:00:50,380 We were in a period of time 6 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:53,900 where everything we touched seemed to be turning to gold. 7 00:00:54,020 --> 00:00:57,460 It's a bright, colourful outburst. 8 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:01,540 Because I've got my own way 9 00:01:01,660 --> 00:01:04,900 I can find my own way. 10 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:07,220 We all knew there was something special happening. 11 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:10,380 It is pure, pure fantastic pop. 12 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:14,900 It's just a record that has legs and lasting value 13 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:17,620 and it captures a moment in time. 14 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,700 I can't stop myself It's a new religion 15 00:01:23,820 --> 00:01:26,940 I've something to see. 16 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:29,060 Rio's a good record. It's a really good record. 17 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:30,700 A BLEEP killer second album. 18 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:33,500 In touch with the ground 19 00:01:33,620 --> 00:01:36,940 I'm on the hunt, I'm after you. 20 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:40,820 The roadside is littered with careers of one-hit wonder artists 21 00:01:40,940 --> 00:01:42,620 that could never follow up 22 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:45,100 and didn't really understand how to write hit songs. 23 00:01:45,220 --> 00:01:46,300 And Duran Duran did. 24 00:01:46,420 --> 00:01:51,340 Don't say a prayer for me now 25 00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:54,980 Save it till the morning after 26 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:59,580 No, don't say a prayer for me now 27 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:03,980 Save it till the morning after. 28 00:02:08,340 --> 00:02:10,300 Every home should have one. 29 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:24,660 See, this sound at the beginning... Was complete experimentation. 30 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:29,260 And I'd been fiddling around with the grand piano at AIR Studios 31 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:31,420 and I actually opened up the top of it 32 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:33,900 and I was fiddling with the strings. 33 00:02:37,980 --> 00:02:42,260 What I actually did was that I got some metal rods 34 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:45,460 and I threw them onto the strings of the piano 35 00:02:45,620 --> 00:02:47,900 and they bounced around and made this strange noise. 36 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:51,340 And it wasn't quite what I was looking for, 37 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:53,820 but there was something interesting about it 38 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:56,900 and I said to Colin Thurston, "Can we reverse that tape?" 39 00:02:57,060 --> 00:02:59,940 Because at that time, we were just discovering things like tape loops 40 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:03,740 and reversing and slowing things down and speeding things up. 41 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:08,100 And, er, he said, "Sure." And we reversed the sound 42 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:12,820 and what we got was the very intro of Rio. 44 00:03:40,460 --> 00:03:44,740 That was really the beginning of the song, that groove. 45 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:46,980 Roger started playing a groove with that. 46 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:49,940 And we sort of built the song around that line, 47 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:53,580 so we started to think in terms of chords. 48 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:12,780 Moving on the floor now, babe you're a bird of paradise 49 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:19,180 Cherry ice cream smile I suppose it's very nice 50 00:04:19,340 --> 00:04:22,700 With a step to your left and a flick to the right 51 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:25,540 You catch that mirror way out west... 52 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,740 The inspiration for me as a bass player 53 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:30,300 was Bernard Edwards, the player with Chic. 54 00:04:30,460 --> 00:04:32,700 And a lot of his lines really caught my ear. 55 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:35,100 And that was what made me want to play bass. 56 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:37,780 It was a very syncopated style, which was something new to me, 57 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:41,740 especially as I'd sort of being playing in punk rock bands, 58 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:45,300 So Rio was like, er...just all of those ideas 59 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:47,740 that I had about syncopation. 60 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:50,300 And then when we get to the chorus, it's still like a... 61 00:04:56,580 --> 00:05:02,500 Oh, Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande. 62 00:05:02,620 --> 00:05:04,900 Andy's guitars. 63 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:08,340 It's a hell of a guitar sound, actually. 64 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:10,700 Andy always used to use Marshalls. 65 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:16,260 But he was quite experimental with his pedals at that time, too, 66 00:05:16,420 --> 00:05:21,740 so I'm sure it was chorused and flanged and delayed a little. 67 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:27,700 But then I'm sure that you know it's just for you 68 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:32,500 One, two, three, four! 69 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:37,140 Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand. 70 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:39,460 Yeah. Simon's voice, 71 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:43,060 when he harmonises with himself, 72 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:46,100 becomes so thick and lush. 73 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:51,020 I mean, I've rarely heard other people's voices blend 74 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:53,700 so well with themselves. 75 00:05:53,860 --> 00:06:00,020 And, er...he's got a very unusual sense of harmony. 76 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:03,620 That's one of the things I brought to Duran Duran. I brought harmonies 77 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:05,100 from my choirboy training. 78 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:08,900 I was able to identify notes that would... 79 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:11,820 You know, I always felt that music's like... 80 00:06:11,980 --> 00:06:17,060 Sometimes the music or the melody, the main melody's like a pole. 81 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:22,500 And you can take a run at it at speed and grab onto it 82 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:24,620 and you can swing around it. 83 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:26,820 And you can fly off in a different direction. 84 00:06:26,980 --> 00:06:30,180 And that's how I think about harmonies. 85 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:35,660 Did she nearly run you down 86 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:39,140 At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive 87 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:41,860 You make me feel alive 88 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:44,540 Alive, alive 89 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:51,380 I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something 90 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:54,660 I know what you're thinking I'll tell you something 91 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:57,140 I know what you're thinking. 92 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:02,060 When we were done touring, um... 93 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:04,980 the Rio album, we all took a vacation together. 94 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:06,900 And it was kind of one of those... 95 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:09,860 It was like a scene from Help! 96 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:12,580 You know, where the Beatles all get out of the car 97 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:14,820 and they all go into four separate doors, 98 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:18,500 but actually, it's all one house that they're living in. 99 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:22,100 And we all took a vacation together. We went to Antigua. Four of us. 100 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:24,540 Andy didn't come. We all went, we took our girlfriends 101 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:27,060 and we all took beach houses together. 102 00:07:27,220 --> 00:07:30,900 So every morning, we'd come out with our towels, "Morning!" 103 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:33,860 "Morning!" Very Monty Python. 104 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:39,620 And, um...and then we got a phone call, "Guys, don't leave. 105 00:07:39,780 --> 00:07:42,060 "We're coming out with Russell and a crew 106 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:45,500 "and we're going to make a video. Andy's coming." 107 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:54,220 Her name is Rio she don't need to understand. 108 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:55,740 It's a very iconic image, 109 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:59,500 that we're wearing these Antony Price suits on a yacht. 110 00:07:59,660 --> 00:08:02,380 It's like, what a great juxtaposition of style! 111 00:08:02,540 --> 00:08:05,340 But we thought we were actually filming in London 112 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:08,020 and Antony fitted us up with all these suits. 113 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:10,260 Last minute, it got changed to Antigua, 114 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:13,860 so the outfits turn up, that's the only clothes we have. 115 00:08:14,020 --> 00:08:18,300 Nick loved all the pale colours because he wore light make-up 116 00:08:18,460 --> 00:08:20,740 and had very light hair, he could get away with all these 117 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:27,420 sort of pale, sugared-almond colours and silk suits and things. 118 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:32,020 And obviously, it all worked with the Caribbean thing of the video. 119 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:37,460 It was quite tropical looking in a way and I was always a bit tropical. 120 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:40,900 Suddenly, it was bang, straight in there, style, fashion, 121 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:42,300 statement, articulated. 122 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:46,180 Do-do-do-do-do-do. 123 00:08:46,340 --> 00:08:50,860 Nobody used to go on exotic holidays and go on yachts in 1982. 124 00:08:51,020 --> 00:08:53,660 It wasn't achievable. It wasn't possible. 125 00:08:53,780 --> 00:08:56,780 So it was real vision of the future. 126 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,500 And really anticipated, I think, 127 00:08:59,660 --> 00:09:03,980 what was to come, the kind of whole celebrity culture really. 128 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:09,780 I've seen you on the beach and I've seen you on TV. 129 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:15,860 What they were showing to Britain was, you know, this newer world. 130 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:18,780 Very cleverly, in my view, showing it. 131 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:21,740 Punk was fantastic to photograph because it was very graphic 132 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:24,020 and black and white, really, for me. 133 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:28,340 I mean, virtually all my punk pictures are black and white film. 134 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:32,740 And with Duran Duran, it's going from black and white to colour. 135 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:37,620 And the country and the population was going from black and white. 136 00:09:37,780 --> 00:09:41,140 The black and white of the recession, the unemployment 137 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:44,300 and then the Falklands war and they were preparing to bring 138 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:46,020 the colour back into everything. 139 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:48,060 And I think that was the contrast. 140 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:51,900 In as much as the Sex Pistols drag you back to a sense 141 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:54,860 and a moment in time, Duran Duran do, too. 142 00:09:55,020 --> 00:09:58,780 Our instinct as teenagers that wanted it to be great, 143 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:01,260 wanted our life to be good, 144 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:04,380 and also wanted to put some brightness into 145 00:10:04,540 --> 00:10:08,980 other people's lives, was to try and make something between us 146 00:10:09,140 --> 00:10:12,380 that really excited us, that made us happy. 147 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:16,100 Simon's looks were very poetic and very beautiful and very optimistic. 148 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:21,260 And that's one of the things, I think, that changed in the '80s. 149 00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:23,860 It suddenly became very optimistic. 150 00:10:24,020 --> 00:10:28,020 Save a prayer till the morning after 151 00:10:28,180 --> 00:10:32,540 Save a prayer till the morning after 152 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:36,420 Save a prayer till the morning after 153 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:41,060 Save a prayer till the morning after. 154 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:44,780 I met John when I was 10 years old. He was 12. 155 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:46,980 He literally lived around the corner from me. 156 00:10:47,140 --> 00:10:49,180 And so we used to hang out all the time. 157 00:10:49,340 --> 00:10:52,460 We were both single kids, no brothers or sisters. 158 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:56,940 So we really became like brothers. And went everywhere together. 159 00:10:57,060 --> 00:10:59,180 We were friends for a few years 160 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:05,620 before the idea of actually making music together came to us. 161 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:10,260 He went to art college and I was just finishing up at high school. 162 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:12,300 And he was already in a band. 163 00:11:12,460 --> 00:11:14,580 So I was actually a little jealous of this. 164 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:17,860 And the band were quite interesting. They were called Dada. 165 00:11:18,020 --> 00:11:20,540 And as soon as that fell apart, we got together and I said, 166 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,180 "OK, I can leave school, let's do this properly. Let's form a band." 167 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:27,540 By this point, we'd got the bit between our teeth 168 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:29,860 and Roger was the next guy we met. 169 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:34,100 I walked in and, er...John just kind of picked up the bass 170 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,260 and we just started kind of jamming along. 171 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:39,300 And immediately gelled. 172 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:41,860 John and Nick appeared with a little cassette 173 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:44,020 and we put it on the big sound system. 174 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:48,100 Ah, the Berrows! We first met them when we went to the Rum Runner. 175 00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:51,540 John and I had isolated it as the coolest place in town 176 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:53,420 and so we wanted to play a show there. 177 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:55,540 And they got involved in the management side. 178 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,900 And Paul was really the creative side, 179 00:11:58,020 --> 00:12:00,020 Michael more on the business side. 180 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:04,420 It was time to obviously develop and mature the band 181 00:12:04,540 --> 00:12:06,340 and they needed help to do that. 182 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:09,980 There were only three of them really who were committed at the time. 183 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:11,940 It took us about six months. 184 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,780 Lots of auditioning, some false starts. 185 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:19,900 And then finally, Simon came bouncing in one day. 186 00:12:20,060 --> 00:12:22,660 So I started singing this melody and they were very excited by it. 187 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:25,700 And we realised right then and there that we had something, 188 00:12:25,820 --> 00:12:27,460 we had a good combination musically, 189 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:29,260 that we could do something good together. 190 00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:31,220 And he opened up this book of lyrics 191 00:12:31,380 --> 00:12:33,860 and it already had The Chauffeur in there 192 00:12:33,980 --> 00:12:36,060 and a song called Sound of Thunder. 193 00:12:36,220 --> 00:12:38,300 I think Planet Earth was probably in there. 194 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:42,820 Andy came down from Newcastle, Whitley Bay. 195 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:45,580 He had a lot of knowledge of the fretboard. 196 00:12:45,740 --> 00:12:49,980 He could play a lot of chords, which Nick or I couldn't play. 197 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,740 So he brought a lot of expertise. 198 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:54,820 It was a bit like an explosion when the five of us came together. 199 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:58,700 We were all very serious, we were all looking for something new 200 00:12:58,860 --> 00:13:02,140 and we all knew this was exactly what we wanted to do. 201 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:30,620 Only came outside to watch the night fall with the rain 202 00:13:30,780 --> 00:13:36,300 I heard you making patterns rhyme. 203 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:38,140 I just got the call, he said, 204 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,380 "I'm the manager of this band called Duran Duran 205 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:45,140 "and they're causing a bit of a stir in Birmingham 206 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:47,820 "and I really think you should come and see them." 207 00:13:47,980 --> 00:13:51,100 And first of all, I was a bit dubious because I thought, 208 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:53,140 "Can't be anything going on in Birmingham. 209 00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:54,620 "It's all happening in London." 210 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:58,500 So Betty came up and it was like a state visit. 211 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:01,140 Because Birmingham didn't have... 212 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:06,860 It wasn't very well represented in the national music media. 213 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:11,300 I was just blown away by their self-confidence and enthusiasm 214 00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:15,620 and just their complete assurance of what they were doing. 215 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:18,420 They were just so confident about who they were, what they wanted, 216 00:14:18,580 --> 00:14:22,620 where they wanted to go with the whole Duran Duran project. 217 00:14:22,780 --> 00:14:24,740 When we started out, we had a master plan 218 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:27,460 and we thought it was going to work. All of them were just so... 219 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:29,900 Roger was always a little bit quieter than the others, 220 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:32,860 but the others, they were all trying to get a word in. 221 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:37,500 Andy, John, Simon, Nick, Roger, when did you learn an instrument? 222 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:40,260 I learnt to use my instrument... 224 00:14:43,420 --> 00:14:46,340 ..when I was five, actually. 225 00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:48,020 But it was plastic at the time. 226 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:51,980 LAUGHTER But I got a real one when I was 11. 227 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:55,180 I was what you'd call a late developer. 228 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:58,540 I didn't pick up mine until I was about 16. 229 00:14:58,660 --> 00:15:00,100 I was born with my instrument 230 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:02,660 and it just got used again and again and again. 231 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:09,220 I started playing with mine when I was, um...17. 232 00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:11,980 Um... Roger's still a virgin. 233 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:13,940 Roger needs two hands for his! 235 00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:18,180 You think, "OK, this is what we're going to do." 236 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:19,980 You put the blinkers on and you go. 237 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:24,340 There's no sign of life 238 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:28,220 Voices, another sound. 239 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:31,940 I think it was about 18-20 months they were around rehearsing. 240 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:34,340 We knew when we got together in the room 241 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:39,140 and started writing songs together that we had something special. 242 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:42,580 There's something in the chemistry of us 243 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:45,420 that was able to come up with more and more and more music. 244 00:15:49,020 --> 00:15:53,220 See them walking hand in hand across the bridge at midnight 245 00:15:56,540 --> 00:16:00,820 Heads turning as the lights flashing out it's so bright 246 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:05,180 Then walk right out to the four line track 247 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,780 There's a camera rolling on her back 248 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,500 On her back. 249 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,500 Girls On Film did really well. 250 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:14,420 I think that got us to number five or something. 251 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:16,020 It did even better than Planet Earth. 252 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:18,900 When we went in to do the first album, 253 00:16:19,060 --> 00:16:22,180 not only did that album go relatively smoothly, 254 00:16:22,340 --> 00:16:25,980 but it also allowed them to draw upon some of that work 255 00:16:26,140 --> 00:16:30,980 for the second album, which enabled Rio to go relatively smoothly. 256 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:34,780 We had a lot of material that we hadn't recorded. 257 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:36,260 An awful lot of material. 258 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:39,460 The first album, Duran Duran, had two hits on it. 259 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:42,020 We had three singles released. 260 00:16:42,140 --> 00:16:44,100 We were signed by a record company. 261 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:49,140 We'd been on tour with Hazel O'Connor and we'd gone to America 262 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:52,580 and we were causing a big stir, so we knew something was really brewing. 263 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,140 It was bubbling up. 264 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,860 It was really the most exciting thing that ever happened to us. 265 00:16:59,020 --> 00:17:03,940 And so the energy that's in the Rio album very much came from that 266 00:17:04,060 --> 00:17:05,860 first trip to America. 267 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:08,020 That's the great thing about listening to this, 268 00:17:08,180 --> 00:17:12,020 you can hear all the different influences there and ideas 269 00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:17,300 and somehow, it all comes together and sounds like a whole. 270 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:21,860 Because you've got the very funky bass and drums, very dark guitars, 271 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:27,340 quite dark keyboards, optimistic vocals, but it all kind of works. 272 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:31,420 It all just kind of gels and hangs together somehow. 273 00:17:33,540 --> 00:17:36,100 Duran was really a rock band with synths. 274 00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:40,420 It wasn't a synth band with a couple of musicians, 275 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:41,740 it was a real rock band. 276 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:43,540 We were a product of our times. 277 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:47,540 Synthesizers were becoming more important to popular music, 278 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:50,220 but there was, as yet, very few records 279 00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:52,940 that were entirely synthesizer-based. 280 00:17:53,060 --> 00:17:55,220 There was Kraftwerk, you know. 281 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:58,180 Depeche Mode were just about to come along. 282 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,100 So there were going to be... 283 00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:02,580 Synth pop was about to happen. 284 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:04,140 Techno was about to happen. 285 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:07,860 But we were coming out of punk, we were coming out of a tradition 286 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:10,300 that was all about guitars and drums. 287 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:14,060 I think the rhythm on this was influenced by, um... 288 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:17,380 a song called Stay, David Bowie. 289 00:18:17,540 --> 00:18:20,660 I think it was on Station to Station and it was all that kind of... 290 00:18:20,780 --> 00:18:23,900 Very syncopated bass playing. 293 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:36,300 That runs all the way through, this guitar. 294 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:43,260 Kind of Dave Gilmour, I think. 295 00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:45,700 Quite Floyd-ish. 296 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:47,460 It's a very unusual track. 297 00:18:47,620 --> 00:18:51,260 It's got this kind of pumping, funky rhythm section. 298 00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:11,900 And that's a classic Nick Rhodes sound right there, that... 299 00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:13,740 kind of phased strings. 300 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:19,860 You can take him if you're fast 301 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:22,060 Didn't I say...? 302 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:24,580 There's so many vocals going on. 303 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:27,500 I get along fine with them friends of mine... 304 00:19:27,660 --> 00:19:31,620 Those two voices in New Religion, you've got the kind of rhythmic... 305 00:19:31,820 --> 00:19:35,540 Got to take the pay from the saints and sinners in the regulation hats and scarves and things 306 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:38,180 Walking in formation down the lane they carry their... 307 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,060 And then you've got the... 308 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,500 Don't know why this evil bothers me... 309 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:45,820 And it's singing about... "Don't know why this evil," 310 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:47,500 is singing about this other voice. 311 00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:49,460 It's like, why have I got this in my head? 312 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:51,340 Why is this stuff going on? 313 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:54,900 Army majors pull a mean cool truth, they're lying in a swimming pool 314 00:19:55,060 --> 00:19:57,420 Searching for the undeniable truth that a man is just a fool 315 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:00,700 Don't know why this evil bothers me Take another chance boy, carry the fight, 316 00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:01,940 You can take him if you're fast 317 00:20:02,140 --> 00:20:05,140 So why is he trying to follow me? Didn't I say if you're holding on You'd be laughing at the last 318 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:07,620 How many reasons do they need? I get along fine with them friends of mine 319 00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:08,740 But you have to make a choice 320 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:11,540 I might just believe this time You're singing out of tune but the beat's in time 321 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:12,860 And it's us who makes the noise... 322 00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:15,780 They're not obvious pop songs but I think it's probably that, 323 00:20:15,940 --> 00:20:18,700 you know, because they always had that kind of dance, 324 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:23,220 slightly funky element to their sound. 325 00:20:23,380 --> 00:20:28,100 They managed to marry all these different elements which, 326 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:31,140 you know, was quite an achievement 327 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:33,860 because most bands wouldn't really attempt that now. 328 00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:35,860 It's a very unusual sound, Duran, 329 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:40,500 because if you put it on paper, it shouldn't really work. 330 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:43,100 John's a great bass groove player, you know, 331 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:47,220 he really is and the textures Nick added, 332 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:52,300 the guitar-playing was rock'n'roll, the drumming's, you know, 333 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:56,380 a really good drummer, solid, solid, so in that, 334 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:58,340 you've got all this... 335 00:20:58,460 --> 00:21:00,580 desire... 336 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:04,300 to be funky, to take it off left-field. 337 00:21:04,420 --> 00:21:05,540 Hold Back The Rain. 338 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:08,980 SONG: Hold Back The Rain 339 00:21:13,820 --> 00:21:17,100 Andy's guitar. It's almost like a... 340 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:20,820 It's got a slap on it like... 341 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,780 It reminds me of She Was Hot, that Rolling Stones song. 343 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:32,740 It's these little bass pops in there that are actually overdubbed. 344 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:34,940 Then I had to learn how to play it live. 345 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:38,860 There's actually two tracks of bass, Hold Back The Rain, the basic... 347 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:47,740 That's the straightforward and... 349 00:21:49,180 --> 00:21:51,620 I would overdub that on a separate track. 350 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:54,140 The other thing about Hold Back The Rain that is somewhat 351 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,820 problematic is the chorus is one of these... 353 00:22:03,620 --> 00:22:05,060 That's played with a pick. 354 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:08,260 I just couldn't do it with my fingers so, again, 355 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:10,380 it's fine in the studio where you can, "OK, stop, 356 00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:12,420 "let's get the chorus" and then we go back to... 358 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:19,260 And we can go back to that but like live, it's a bitch. 359 00:22:23,705 --> 00:22:29,105 And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame 360 00:22:29,225 --> 00:22:30,945 Hold back the rain 361 00:22:31,105 --> 00:22:36,505 No time for worry cos we're on the roam again 362 00:22:36,625 --> 00:22:38,665 Hold back the rain 363 00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:43,825 The clouds all scatter and we ride the outside lane 364 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:45,705 Hold back the rain 365 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:51,185 Not on your own so help me, please 366 00:22:51,305 --> 00:22:53,825 Hold back the rain... 367 00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:58,665 The teenage thing, none of us foresaw the teenage thing. 369 00:23:00,625 --> 00:23:01,905 Get back! 370 00:23:03,625 --> 00:23:05,985 We just thought we were going to be an album band 371 00:23:06,145 --> 00:23:10,345 and we're going to have quite a serious audience 372 00:23:10,505 --> 00:23:13,865 but obviously the music we were making was actually 373 00:23:14,025 --> 00:23:17,265 transcending that and it was reaching a far wider audience. 374 00:23:17,385 --> 00:23:20,825 Oh, my God! Oh, my God! 375 00:23:20,945 --> 00:23:22,865 Oh, my God! 376 00:23:23,025 --> 00:23:26,505 The first Smash Hits cover that we had was Roger 377 00:23:26,665 --> 00:23:30,305 and Nick, which was really bizarre if you think about it. 378 00:23:30,465 --> 00:23:35,985 And that immediately gives you a sense of...the appeal of the band. 379 00:23:36,145 --> 00:23:39,665 The fact that this all-out pop magazine would take the drummer 380 00:23:39,825 --> 00:23:42,625 and the keyboard player and put them on the front 381 00:23:42,785 --> 00:23:45,865 and I think that was significant because that let everybody 382 00:23:46,025 --> 00:23:49,505 know this is a band of interesting individuals. 383 00:23:50,745 --> 00:23:54,905 When we first went to Australia was when we really noticed it 384 00:23:55,065 --> 00:24:00,225 in a big way because actually Planet Earth had become a number one single 385 00:24:00,385 --> 00:24:03,785 there and we went there and they were just crazy 386 00:24:03,945 --> 00:24:06,825 and we had to get security and we were locked in hotels 387 00:24:06,985 --> 00:24:09,585 and I mean it was sort of funny at the time. 388 00:24:09,745 --> 00:24:15,905 None of us had really had time to grow up into rounded adults. 389 00:24:16,065 --> 00:24:20,985 We were still living at home so it was a very steep climb. 390 00:24:21,145 --> 00:24:23,945 I was in a car with Roger leaving a show one day 391 00:24:24,065 --> 00:24:25,745 and the car was rocked by fans, 392 00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:27,425 they were crawling all over it 393 00:24:27,585 --> 00:24:33,665 and I could see that he absolutely hated it, was quite put off by it. 394 00:24:33,825 --> 00:24:38,345 I think too many of those incidents was too much for him in a way. 395 00:24:38,505 --> 00:24:41,105 Whereas John and Nick sort of lived for all that. 396 00:24:42,265 --> 00:24:44,465 I didn't think the lights were particularly good. 398 00:24:46,425 --> 00:24:49,025 I remember getting back from our first American tour 399 00:24:49,145 --> 00:24:50,545 and my father still wouldn't let me 400 00:24:50,705 --> 00:24:52,945 watch what I wanted to watch on the television, you know. 402 00:24:54,705 --> 00:24:55,745 Oh, God. 403 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:57,585 I think with the Rio album, 404 00:24:57,745 --> 00:25:02,985 we had definitely learned some good lessons from the first album. 405 00:25:03,145 --> 00:25:05,785 We were lucky enough to have worked with Colin Thurston, 406 00:25:05,905 --> 00:25:08,345 who was our choice as a producer. 407 00:25:08,545 --> 00:25:13,345 He'd worked with David Bowie and Iggy Pop so for us, this was incredible to 408 00:25:13,505 --> 00:25:16,585 be in the studio with someone who'd made some of our favourite records. 409 00:25:16,705 --> 00:25:18,065 OK, Roger, it's going to be a take. 410 00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:21,265 Well, Colin was a very, very calm hand at the wheel 411 00:25:21,385 --> 00:25:23,105 and you never... 412 00:25:23,265 --> 00:25:26,065 I don't think at any point when I was working with Colin did 413 00:25:26,225 --> 00:25:29,465 I question any of the sounds that he was generating. 414 00:25:29,625 --> 00:25:34,305 I mean he knew exactly how our band needed to sound. 415 00:25:34,465 --> 00:25:37,385 He heard the talent that was in the band, he heard the raw 416 00:25:37,545 --> 00:25:43,545 songwriting, performing talent and he made it modern. 417 00:25:43,745 --> 00:25:48,945 The great thing about Colin was that he really knew how to nurture people. 418 00:25:49,105 --> 00:25:52,025 You get great producers that are, you know, 419 00:25:52,185 --> 00:25:56,105 amazing with the desk and great with the soundscapes but they're 420 00:25:56,265 --> 00:26:02,625 not great with people but Colin was amazing with people and... 421 00:26:02,745 --> 00:26:04,265 I miss him, I really miss him. 422 00:26:04,425 --> 00:26:06,945 He died recently and it was a very sad day for me 423 00:26:07,105 --> 00:26:12,745 because somebody went out of my life that was a very big influence on me. 424 00:26:12,865 --> 00:26:17,865 SONG: "The Chauffeur" 425 00:26:35,825 --> 00:26:39,385 It was actually the last track that we started 426 00:26:39,505 --> 00:26:41,305 recording on the Rio album. 427 00:26:41,465 --> 00:26:46,065 We were running so late that we decided to take on an extra room. 428 00:26:46,225 --> 00:26:48,825 We started work in this other room just to try 429 00:26:48,985 --> 00:26:52,425 and speed things up a little and I said to Simon, "Look, I've 430 00:26:52,585 --> 00:26:55,305 "got an idea, I'd like to make it a little more electronic." Yeah. 431 00:26:55,505 --> 00:26:58,745 Because originally, it had been done with an acoustic guitar. That's right. 432 00:26:58,865 --> 00:27:00,705 And so I started building the track 433 00:27:00,865 --> 00:27:04,825 and the first thing I started with the rhythm box and the sequencer... 434 00:27:04,985 --> 00:27:07,825 OK, that's part of the rhythm box, there should be a bit that says, 435 00:27:07,945 --> 00:27:10,385 "Clap." There you go. Clap. 436 00:27:10,545 --> 00:27:13,065 Yeah. 437 00:27:13,185 --> 00:27:14,145 There you go. 438 00:27:14,305 --> 00:27:18,385 So that was the beginning of it and then the sequencer... 440 00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:24,025 And the sequencer is very similar to the original guitar part, isn't it? 441 00:27:24,185 --> 00:27:26,985 Yeah, very much so, and then Simon would come back in back 442 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:30,545 and forth and I'd go in and fix some things up on another track 443 00:27:30,665 --> 00:27:34,905 whilst we were in-between. 444 00:27:35,065 --> 00:27:38,505 I was amazed by what you came up with, actually. 445 00:27:38,665 --> 00:27:42,425 It was nothing like I'd ever imagined the song would ever sound like. 446 00:27:57,905 --> 00:28:03,505 Way down the lane away, living for another day 447 00:28:03,665 --> 00:28:09,385 The aphids climb up in the drifting haze 448 00:28:09,505 --> 00:28:11,825 Swim seagull in the sky 449 00:28:11,945 --> 00:28:15,265 Towards that hollow western isle 450 00:28:15,425 --> 00:28:19,785 My envied lady holds you fast in her gaze... 452 00:28:22,065 --> 00:28:23,945 That's the piano and the bass sync. 453 00:28:24,065 --> 00:28:25,505 That's the piano on its own. 456 00:28:32,665 --> 00:28:35,465 Out on the tar plains 457 00:28:35,585 --> 00:28:38,545 The glides are moving 458 00:28:38,705 --> 00:28:43,305 All looking for a new place to drive... 459 00:28:43,465 --> 00:28:47,505 Well, it only really works with the bass, doesn't it? Those notes. 461 00:28:52,345 --> 00:28:54,945 Isn't that amazing how...? Works for me. Yeah. 462 00:28:55,065 --> 00:29:02,945 Sing Blue Silver... 463 00:29:04,425 --> 00:29:06,305 I wonder, can we the glass breaking? 464 00:29:06,465 --> 00:29:09,025 Would that be on "Noise" as well, do you think? I think so. 465 00:29:09,145 --> 00:29:10,185 Yeah, let's solo it. 466 00:29:12,145 --> 00:29:15,065 Here we go. Ready? 467 00:29:15,185 --> 00:29:16,465 Yeah. Now. 468 00:29:16,625 --> 00:29:18,945 There it is! 469 00:29:19,105 --> 00:29:21,705 It wasn't really glass at all, I shouldn't spoil what it is! No! 470 00:29:21,865 --> 00:29:24,985 It was actually ice being dropped into water that just made 471 00:29:25,145 --> 00:29:28,665 that sound that sounded like glass but, yeah, there you go. 472 00:29:28,825 --> 00:29:33,625 What glass splinters lie so deep in your mind 473 00:29:33,785 --> 00:29:38,665 To tear out from your eyes with a word to stiffen brooding lies... 474 00:29:38,785 --> 00:29:41,225 Finishing Rio... 475 00:29:41,385 --> 00:29:44,545 It marked the end of Duran Duran's innocence. 476 00:29:46,305 --> 00:29:49,465 Because, actually, we came away from that 477 00:29:49,625 --> 00:29:53,345 and Nick will tell you all about what it was like to go down to Sri Lanka 478 00:29:53,505 --> 00:29:57,145 straight out of the mixing studios, he mixed that record with Colin. 479 00:29:57,305 --> 00:30:01,105 At the end of the album, we had a very tight deadline. 480 00:30:01,265 --> 00:30:05,785 We actually had to be on tour in Australia by a certain date 481 00:30:05,945 --> 00:30:08,065 and before then, we had to make some videos. 482 00:30:08,225 --> 00:30:10,625 We were all very interested in video at that point. 483 00:30:10,785 --> 00:30:14,225 It wasn't something that we backed away from cos the band was 484 00:30:14,385 --> 00:30:16,625 always about aesthetics and, you know, 485 00:30:16,785 --> 00:30:18,985 the image of the band was very important. 486 00:30:19,105 --> 00:30:21,225 But the album wasn't quite finished, 487 00:30:21,385 --> 00:30:24,505 there was three or four mixes left to do and some editing so I said, 488 00:30:24,665 --> 00:30:27,625 "Listen, I'm not going anywhere until the album's done, 489 00:30:27,785 --> 00:30:32,385 "you'll have to start doing the video without me and I'll catch up." 490 00:30:32,585 --> 00:30:35,065 Their management in the Barrows, Paul and Mike Barrow, 491 00:30:35,225 --> 00:30:39,545 were very, very ahead of their time in the awareness factor about this. 492 00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:43,105 Paul had had this idea to go onto location. 493 00:30:43,265 --> 00:30:46,825 I think he'd obviously recently seen Raiders Of The Lost Ark 494 00:30:46,985 --> 00:30:50,625 and there was a bit of Apocalypse Now in there as well. 495 00:30:50,785 --> 00:30:55,385 It was such a simple idea but nobody had even thought of that - just 496 00:30:55,545 --> 00:30:58,985 taking your camera out of the room to this amazing country with 497 00:30:59,145 --> 00:31:01,945 all this amazing scenery and shooting a video. 498 00:31:02,105 --> 00:31:06,585 I was a frustrated filmmaker, frustrated feature filmmaker, 499 00:31:06,705 --> 00:31:10,025 I wanted to make movies. 500 00:31:11,305 --> 00:31:14,585 So, no-one would give me money to make anything longer than 501 00:31:14,745 --> 00:31:19,025 four minutes so I went, "OK, I'll make a four-minute-long movie." 502 00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:22,745 Woman, you want me, give me a sign 503 00:31:22,905 --> 00:31:25,465 And catch my breathing even closer behind 504 00:31:25,585 --> 00:31:27,745 Do do do do do do do 505 00:31:27,865 --> 00:31:31,345 Do do do do do do do do... 506 00:31:34,385 --> 00:31:37,385 Russell was one of the great music video directors that 507 00:31:37,545 --> 00:31:41,705 emerged from that period as a director that could 508 00:31:41,865 --> 00:31:47,145 see how the result of a great music track combined to interesting, 509 00:31:47,305 --> 00:31:51,025 glamorous visuals with the right artist could create something 510 00:31:51,185 --> 00:31:53,105 that was more than the sum of the parts. 511 00:31:53,225 --> 00:31:55,545 I'm after you 512 00:31:55,665 --> 00:31:57,385 Mouth is alive 513 00:31:57,505 --> 00:31:59,065 Juices like wine 514 00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:04,025 And I'm hungry like the wolf... 515 00:32:06,385 --> 00:32:10,585 Simon and I liked it cos we were a bit more adventurous 516 00:32:10,745 --> 00:32:14,105 and we liked travelling and we liked going to slightly weird places 517 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:16,465 but I don't think Nick liked the idea very much cos 518 00:32:16,625 --> 00:32:19,985 he still liked wearing make-up and stuff so, for him, 519 00:32:20,145 --> 00:32:24,585 going to Sri Lanka and staying in a dodgy, 520 00:32:24,785 --> 00:32:29,385 old hotel somewhere was not something he wanted to do, I don't think. 521 00:32:29,545 --> 00:32:34,225 I got there completely fried, having not slept for two or three days, 522 00:32:34,385 --> 00:32:37,065 and I arrived in Sri Lanka thinking, "OK, record's done, I'm going 523 00:32:37,225 --> 00:32:38,905 "to take it and play it to everyone else. 524 00:32:39,025 --> 00:32:41,105 "Let's hope they're happy." 525 00:32:41,265 --> 00:32:44,225 I got off, came out from the plane and I was thinking, 526 00:32:44,385 --> 00:32:47,265 "OK, where's the guy with my limo?" So I was looking around 527 00:32:47,425 --> 00:32:53,465 and an Indian guy comes over to me, he says, "Nick." I said, "Yeah. 528 00:32:53,625 --> 00:32:56,185 "Where's the car?" He says, "Oh, it's over here." 529 00:32:56,345 --> 00:33:00,465 So we go out and it's, I mean, blistering heat 530 00:33:00,625 --> 00:33:04,705 and I'm dressed from head to toe in black leather. 531 00:33:04,865 --> 00:33:07,705 "Wow, OK, well, let's get in the car and perhaps there'll be some 532 00:33:07,865 --> 00:33:10,305 "air conditioning." Anyway, it's a flatbed truck. 533 00:33:10,425 --> 00:33:12,065 So, oh, my God. 534 00:33:12,225 --> 00:33:14,025 I said, "Well, how long is it to the hotel?" 535 00:33:14,145 --> 00:33:15,705 expecting him to say 20 minutes. 536 00:33:15,825 --> 00:33:17,225 He said, "Five hours." 537 00:33:17,385 --> 00:33:20,945 Nick is the most urbane member of Duran Duran, 538 00:33:21,065 --> 00:33:23,225 was then and is still now. 539 00:33:23,385 --> 00:33:25,345 The most difficult to get out of the city. 540 00:33:25,505 --> 00:33:28,825 So, we drive for five hours over these dust tracks, 541 00:33:28,985 --> 00:33:33,425 all the way into God knows where in Sri Lanka and we end up there 542 00:33:33,585 --> 00:33:36,025 and, literally, as I arrive, somebody gets my bag 543 00:33:36,145 --> 00:33:37,425 and takes it up to the hotel 544 00:33:37,585 --> 00:33:39,985 and I'm walking down to the beach where they're filming in a 545 00:33:40,145 --> 00:33:44,705 complete daze and an elephant walked past me on the street, I was my own. 546 00:33:44,825 --> 00:33:46,425 I thought I was hallucinating. 547 00:33:46,545 --> 00:33:49,305 It was so much fun doing those. 548 00:33:49,465 --> 00:33:51,825 We worked so hard, we'd get up at 5:00 in the morning 549 00:33:51,945 --> 00:33:53,625 and we'd go to bed at 11:00 at night 550 00:33:53,785 --> 00:33:56,985 and we'd work all day long in-between and we were totally, 551 00:33:57,145 --> 00:34:01,505 totally exhausted by the end of our five days there. 552 00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:06,945 But it kind of worked. It was one of those... This is so crazy. 553 00:34:07,105 --> 00:34:10,105 You know, we've got these guys in eyeliner and crazy-colour hair 554 00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:12,065 and they're on the back of elephants. 555 00:34:12,225 --> 00:34:16,945 It was so bizarre but, you know, it was kind of irresistible. 556 00:34:17,065 --> 00:34:19,825 We came back with three whole videos. 557 00:34:19,945 --> 00:34:23,585 SONG: "Hungry Like The Wolf" 558 00:34:26,385 --> 00:34:29,705 Hungry Like The Wolf was actually written with the Jupiter-8 559 00:34:29,865 --> 00:34:36,465 which is the synthesizer I used for much of the sound on the Rio album. 560 00:34:36,625 --> 00:34:40,305 It was sort of new out around that time, about 1982, 561 00:34:40,465 --> 00:34:43,825 and I completely fell in love with it. 562 00:34:43,945 --> 00:34:44,985 Simon and I, I think, 563 00:34:45,145 --> 00:34:48,505 had been out the night before and we had the most terrible hangover 564 00:34:48,665 --> 00:34:50,865 and, for some reason, were feeling guilty about it 565 00:34:50,985 --> 00:34:52,465 and decided to go and do some work 566 00:34:52,625 --> 00:34:56,545 so we went to EMI Studios at Manchester Square 567 00:34:56,705 --> 00:34:59,865 and we got in quite early and we'd been listening to something in the 568 00:35:00,025 --> 00:35:05,265 car and we got a sort of idea and I started playing with this sound. 569 00:35:05,425 --> 00:35:07,425 It won't sound quite the same I shouldn't think 570 00:35:07,545 --> 00:35:10,265 because it needs effects but... 574 00:35:26,665 --> 00:35:31,185 And Simon had an idea for a lyric and by lunchtime, 575 00:35:31,345 --> 00:35:35,385 when everyone else turned up, we pretty much had the song 576 00:35:35,545 --> 00:35:38,545 and Andy came in and played a killer guitar riff on top of it 577 00:35:38,705 --> 00:35:41,225 and John and Roger thought, "This is easy." 578 00:35:41,385 --> 00:35:44,665 That's pretty hooky already, isn't it there? 579 00:35:44,825 --> 00:35:49,945 And then you've got Andy's angry guitars. 581 00:35:52,625 --> 00:35:57,145 It was really Andy that gave the band that real edge and Andy was pretty... 582 00:35:58,305 --> 00:36:01,625 He was from Newcastle so he had this edge to him. 583 00:36:01,745 --> 00:36:05,385 Later, Roger added the Simmons drums 584 00:36:05,545 --> 00:36:08,665 and suddenly it sounded like nothing else we'd ever heard. 585 00:36:08,825 --> 00:36:13,305 It's got these great big fills in which was this amazing new kit, 586 00:36:13,425 --> 00:36:17,145 it was like a hexagonal drum kit. 587 00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:21,705 There was only really two sounds on there. You had this sound... 589 00:36:23,065 --> 00:36:28,945 There we go which is a really cool...very new sound then. 590 00:36:29,065 --> 00:36:30,865 And it had a really kind of pingy, 591 00:36:31,025 --> 00:36:34,665 disco-y sound as well which nobody used but this was... 592 00:36:34,825 --> 00:36:37,345 One of the drum sounds of the '80s was this drum. 593 00:36:39,745 --> 00:36:41,625 There's a big roll coming up. 595 00:36:45,145 --> 00:36:46,665 There we go. 596 00:36:46,825 --> 00:36:50,945 One of Colin's things, we always had a lot of ambience on the record. 597 00:36:51,105 --> 00:36:55,065 You know, we'd record the drums very tightly, as you can hear here... 599 00:36:57,265 --> 00:37:02,665 It's a very tight drum sound but then he'd add this...ambience. 600 00:37:02,825 --> 00:37:04,945 There you go, that's with the ambience. 602 00:37:06,465 --> 00:37:09,625 And that kind of defined the drum sound for the '80s in a way. 603 00:37:09,785 --> 00:37:13,265 You'd have this kind of gated ambience. 604 00:37:13,425 --> 00:37:17,345 If you listen to In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins, it's got this 605 00:37:17,505 --> 00:37:21,665 drum sound that's got this beautiful ambient sound on it 606 00:37:21,825 --> 00:37:23,945 and that was how Colin liked to record, 607 00:37:24,105 --> 00:37:27,305 it was this combination of tightly-recorded stuff 608 00:37:27,465 --> 00:37:33,385 and big ambient mics that gave it that really powerful movement. 609 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,400 I remember interviewing them after Rio had come out 610 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,440 when they'd just come back from the really gruelling 611 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480 two-and-a-half-month tour supporting Blondie in the States 612 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680 and Canada and they were absolutely exhausted and, obviously, 613 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,320 this was all part of how you broke America. 614 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:59,240 The band had this very effeminate image in the US at the time. 615 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,000 It was quite tricky selling a New Romantic movement with make-up, 616 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,800 etc to an American audience, especially in the Midwest. 617 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,680 There was always this issue in the US about 618 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,800 whether you needed to remix certain parts of an album 619 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,200 or a single or a song to fit 620 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,360 "the American marketplace, the American club scene" 621 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:29,720 and I had met a producer called David Kershenbaum. 622 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,120 Well, the first thing that struck me were the chord progressions. 623 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,760 The melody and the chord progressions were different than what was 624 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120 going on in American music at the time 625 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,600 and it was captured by some really infectious rhythm. 626 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,120 And I had introduced him to, I think, 627 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,520 Paul Barrow with a view that maybe Paul would want to consider him 628 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,720 to help him remixing some parts of the album 629 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,760 so that it would give more of an "American feel" 630 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,440 or an "American mix" to some of that music. 631 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,920 And that's really what we were aiming at, 632 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,920 was getting Simon's voice correctly out in front 633 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520 but yet surrounding it with the right rhythm elements that would 634 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,800 bring it forward and I was taken by the sound, I thought 635 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,240 it was something that could definitely work. 636 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:25,280 So, yes, we sold our soul and we remixed the album with David, 637 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,800 who did a very good job. 638 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,920 But then there was this whole new other avenue - MTV. 639 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,000 When we were starting out, 640 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,640 what we wanted to do was bring together the two greatest 641 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,920 cultural forces in America for the baby boomers - 642 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680 one was rock'n'roll music and the other one was television. 643 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,640 A music channel where they were going to play nothing but videos. 644 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,720 This was a revolution. 645 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,840 Hungry Like The Wolf was picked up by MTV 646 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,360 and it put it into high rotation. 647 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,640 One day, my associate Tom Freston and I, 648 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,400 who was there at the beginning of MTV, 649 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,000 were out in Tulsa, Oklahoma, just doing anything we could to 650 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,040 try to find a story about MTV having an impact on record sales. 651 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,960 And Capitol Records could see that in certain towns, 652 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,560 for no apparent reason, Duran was moving stock. 653 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,360 A clerk scratched his head and said, 654 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,440 "Yeah, I'm selling Duran Duran and The Buggles and I don't know why 655 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,160 "because they're not getting played 656 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,400 "but I just sold three boxes in Tulsa and that's a lot of records." 657 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,880 And it almost came down to being as absurd as 658 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,880 on one side of the road where they had cable, 659 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,840 where MTV was being piped in, 660 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,600 on that side of the road were Duran fans 661 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,840 and on the other side of the road where MTV didn't exist or the cable, 662 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,520 there wouldn't be fans. 663 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,040 We developed a great relationship with MTV. 664 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,360 They were hungry for videos at that point 665 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,160 because you had people that wouldn't make videos. 666 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,440 I mean some of the kind of more credible rock people really 667 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120 backed away from it, they thought it was going to ruin music, 668 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,800 they thought it was the end of music. 669 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,640 Because you're lonely in your nightmare 670 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Let me in 671 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,880 Because there's heat beneath your winter 672 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,920 Let me in 673 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,040 And it's silent on your stone field 674 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Let me in... 675 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,880 The Sri Lankan experience really pressed it home that actually 676 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,360 what was being made was in effect a film and wasn't just a bunch 677 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,400 of video clips, if you like, for promotional purposes for the singles. 678 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,040 It was something more than that 679 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,560 and so it was therefore a learning experience for the band 680 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,800 as much as it was a great experience for Russell Mulcahy to 681 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,440 actually have the have the budget to indulge in his great ideas. 682 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960 And we filmed three videos in that seven days 683 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,360 so when we were in a jungle, 684 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,880 we would film a bit of Hungry Like The Wolf 685 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,800 and then we'd do a little bit of Save A Prayer. 686 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960 Save it till the morning after 687 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,320 No, don't say a prayer for me now 688 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:25,680 Save it till the morning after 689 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,520 Save it till the morning after... 690 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,400 It was a whirlwind, we were there, and particularly for me, 691 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,680 arriving late, just got in, did the videos, we were on a beach, 692 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,160 jumping into the sea, there at the sunset, on an elephant. 693 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,720 Simon and I would drop from a helicopter on top of this 694 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480 massive mountain which I don't know how I ever did that, 695 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,360 I mean I'd never do that in my life again and then we had to 696 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,640 climb back up into it and flew off, went over a jungle and that was it. 697 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,680 All done. 698 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,200 Don't say a prayer for me now 699 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Save it till the morning after 700 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,680 No, don't say a prayer for me now 701 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:20,400 Save it till the morning after 702 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:28,640 Save it till the morning after... 703 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,880 Save A Prayer is still my favourite track on Rio. 704 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080 I just think it's totally timeless, that song. 705 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,360 I love the melancholy atmosphere of it. 706 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,640 I think Simon singing on that is probably the best I've ever heard him. 707 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Feel the breeze deep on the inside 708 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,440 Look you down into your well 709 00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:01,480 If you can, you'll see the world in all his fire 710 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Take a chance like all dreamers 711 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,080 You can't find another way... 712 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,440 We knew it was an anthem, 713 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,400 we knew that it was and really great anthems, they stand out anyway. 714 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,760 And then these guitars, these... 716 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,520 So beautiful, there's a lot of chorus on them but that's 717 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,760 the body of the song, that's what supports the melody throughout. 718 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:43,760 The bass...is recorded over two tracks. 719 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,000 I've been playing this live recently 720 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,120 and I've been using a sort of chorus pedal to give me 721 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,720 this sound which is what I thought it was but it's actually two tracks 722 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,600 which gives that sort of phased effect, almost like a fretless. 723 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:00,040 It's four synths. 724 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,720 And there's four guitars. 725 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,200 It's a nice mixture of techno and organic and it's that warmth, 726 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,840 it's warm but it's new at the same time which is nice. 727 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,200 The most important line in it is the one about 728 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,880 "some people call it a one-night stand 729 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,720 "but we can call it paradise." 730 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,080 This idea of let's not think about what it means, 731 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,880 let's not think about tomorrow, just think about now, you know, 732 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,760 that's the only thing that matters. 733 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,960 Some people call it a one-night stand 734 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,000 But we can call it paradise 735 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,280 Don't say a prayer for me now... 736 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400 That feeling that now is the important time, 737 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:58,400 it kind of slightly got over the sort of rumpled sheets aspect of it and 738 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,280 concentrated on the philosophy idea a bit more and I'm really glad 739 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,640 it did that because that's really what was in my mind at the time. 740 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,600 You just don't expect the frontman of a style band, which is 741 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,440 not to dismiss them, that's like dismissing Roxy Music, you can't. 742 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,440 You just don't expect them to go deep into themselves 743 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,640 and occasionally, Le Bon did, he had that ability to do that. 744 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,160 It's only one drum take. 746 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,600 In those days, you could play the song for five minutes, 747 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,640 if you made a mistake at the end then it's, "Oh, no, I've got to go 748 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,000 "and do it again" so you'd have to go and re-record the whole drum track. 749 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,280 And we used to make 12" versions as well which were like 750 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,120 ten minutes long and they were all played live. 751 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,640 You know, you couldn't cut it up on the computer 752 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,720 and make loops as you do now. 753 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,640 It's like, "OK, Roger, this is a ten-minute version of the song. 754 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,200 "Start now." And ten minutes later, I'd still be playing it. 755 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,120 Save it till the morning after... 756 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,880 Andy's lead comes in so we have... 758 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,280 Which is actually the closest we ever got to a sort of anthemic rock thing. 759 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,000 It's a nice mixture of old and new. 760 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,840 This thing called a "bender..." 762 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,160 So, the melody on Save A Prayer goes... 764 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,120 It's just one of those parts that every time he plays it, 765 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,800 you've got to smile, you know, it's just one of those magic 766 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,760 moments on stage, it's not lost its specialness. 767 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,320 SONG: "Save A Prayer" 768 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080 And it's just very gentle, it's quite romantic 769 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,280 but it's also bittersweet and it's quite sad 770 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,080 and I quite like that quality about it 771 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:38,560 and I just think that was kind of so unexpected of them at the time. 772 00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:44,160 It's quite a sensual album. All the grooves move along the right beat. 773 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,400 It feels comfortable, it feels natural, 774 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,680 there's nothing that really sounds over-rushed. 775 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:54,000 And these combinations of their own individual images, 776 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,680 their own way of dressing, looking, the styling that went on, 777 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,000 these wonderful videos, coupled together with this wonderful music. 778 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,800 How could you not be happy 779 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,600 when you were listening to Duran Duran's music? 780 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,880 One, two, three, four 781 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,080 Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand 782 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,960 Just like that river twists across the dusty land... 783 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:33,160 I'm glad they've come to be seen as a proper band because the temptation 784 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,600 would always be to diss it cos they were such pop dollies, you know. 785 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,200 The point is that there was a severe group intelligence behind that. 786 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440 Clear as day, they were smart guys, they are smart guys. 787 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,960 Where they were all coming from was correct - art, style, 788 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,440 fashion, deep knowledge of music. 789 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,560 Anything that is classic is because it is enduring. 790 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,560 In other words, it's timeless, and Rio, today, 791 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,440 is just as fresh as it was the day I first heard it. 792 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,640 It was just one of those amazing periods of time, probably we'll 793 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,480 never touch again, where everything just seemed to be perfect. 794 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480 I think that's a combination of a band that is at the top 795 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,600 of its game, that is just having so much fun, playing every day. 796 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,320 It is playing more than it ever thought it would play 797 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,480 and an engineer-producer who just knows exactly what to do, 798 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,560 knows exactly how to channel what he's hearing. 799 00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:35,240 I was so excited by the fact that we'd made this record. 800 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,200 We just hit the right nerve. 801 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,680 Sometimes, you know, you can try and overthink things 802 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,160 and guess at what it is the public would like to hear and do 803 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,720 something that you feel is right on the pulse and miss it by a mile. 804 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,400 Other times, if you just do what you like and what comes naturally, 805 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,280 you've hit that nerve. 806 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,320 SONG: "Rio" 807 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,520 Do do do do do do do 808 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,560 Do do do do, ahhhhhh 809 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,720 Whoa, wow. 810 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,280 Hey, there she goes again! 813 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,720 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 814 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,760 accessibility@bskyb.com 67795

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