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There's up to 50 dead people down in here.
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I wake up with my heart racing,
scared to death.
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That creature... I don't think it's good.
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For a small town, it was scandalous.
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He's like, "I just want to make them bleed."
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[Voice breaking] I don't like it at all,
and I want it to stop.
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What are they doing down here?
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This place is, like, insane.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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My name is Amy Allan.
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[Crying] What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house, has secrets.
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Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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I'm in the small town of Leslie, Michigan,
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about a half-hour outside of Lansing.
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Amy and I got called in
by a woman named Michelle.
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Now, she told me on the phone
that whatever's in the house
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is attacking her and her daughter.
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She begged me to rush over
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because she thinks she's
running out of time.
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[Wind whistling]
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[Door opens, creaks]
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I do a complete sweep of the house.
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What's common in most homes,
like family photographs,
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can influence her findings.
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So it's important I remove them
all before she begins her walk.
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[Door creaks]
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AMY: [Sighing] Oh, boy.
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The living people here...
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It feels like they're, like,
weighted, weighted down
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because there's too much...
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death here.
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This house is just really dark,
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really bad with crazy,
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with people acting out
and doing bad things.
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[Groans] It's not...
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It's not good.
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STEVE: Michelle, I'm glad I'm here,
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'cause you sounded really
concerned on the phone
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about what's happening.
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Things have been going on
in this house for years.
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We've seen apparitions.
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We hear footsteps.
Then the last couple years,
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it has become extremely physical.
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It's attacking my daughter and I,
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scratching us, leaving bruises.
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Wow.
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Who lives in the house, exactly?
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My husband, my 16-year-old daughter,
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and my 17-year-old son.
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This is your daughter that's
being affected by this stuff?
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Yes.
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As a mother, it absolutely eats at my gut.
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I would do anything to protect her,
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but if you can't see something,
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then how do you stop it from happening?
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With all this going on,
how you dealing with it?
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Well, we're not dealing with it well lately.
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As soon as we walk into the house,
it's like a switch.
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The mood will absolutely change.
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You'll go from, you know,
being in a great mood
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to being completely angry,
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and I've definitely been sick a lot
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since I've moved into this house.
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What kind of sick we talking about?
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My daughter and I both get
debilitating headaches,
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and I've had several surgeries.
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I've had shoulder surgery.
I've had a hysterectomy.
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I lost a baby in this house.
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Wow. I'm sorry to hear that.
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This house is beautiful.
I mean, why don't you just move?
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Somebody would buy it.
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I love this house.
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I've put my heart and soul into this house.
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I've been praying for, you know,
when you guys get here
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- that you're really able to help us.
- Okay.
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Someone's panicking.
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Um, there's a woman.
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Living. She has long hair, brown.
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She's got something wrong with her heart.
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[Sighs] It's just...
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a [bleep] mess, man.
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She's so scared. [Sighs]
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[Bleep] She can't breathe, man.
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STEVE: Okay, so, what's going on in here?
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I have physically been
attacked in this room.
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I receive scratches.
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I actually have a picture
that I took last week.
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Wow.
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Do you remember scratching yourself at all?
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No. And it's happened in
this room several times.
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Geez. Amy's gonna want to see this.
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You mind if I hold onto
this for a little bit?
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- Sure.
- Okay.
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Now,
do you have anything else going on in here?
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I will hear footsteps
coming down the stairs,
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and shortly after, a shadow will appear
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walking down the stairways
over there to our basement.
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I would describe it like a man,
but as a black mass.
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I know it's taller than I am.
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And you're not on medication
or anything like that?
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No, I'm not on any medication.
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You drink at night before you go to bed?
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- No.
- Okay.
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I wake up with my heart racing,
like, scared to death.
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Okay.
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Whoa.
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MATTHEW: What?
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There's a really big shadow person here,
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a shadow being. It doesn't even have a face.
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Really tall, really...
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big.
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I don't like it. I-I don't think it's good.
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It's, like...
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trying to make me follow it up the stairs.
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It's, like, crawling oddly down the hall.
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And it's climbing the ceilings
and climbing the walls.
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And it's like this on the ceiling.
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You know what I'm saying?
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[Groans] Man, it gets...
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It gets bad at night. It gets bad at night.
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Thing, like, [bleep] tortures her.
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No sleeping, no sleep.
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STEVE: So, what's going on up here?
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I will see the shadow man
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roll right across my ceiling over my bed.
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Okay. Kind of like the shadow
guy you described downstairs?
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- Exactly like that.
- That's bizarre.
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Is anything else going on?
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The other thing is,
I have repeated nightmares.
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And when I wake up from these dreams,
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I will have bruises on my thighs
in the shape of fingerprints.
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You okay?
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Um...
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it just reminds me of the times
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when I was sexually assaulted as a child.
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I wasn't aware of that. Okay.
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I was attacked in a very brutal manner.
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I was chased around by a babysitter
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who would strip naked,
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and he would chase me around the house.
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And most of the time,
I would hide under the bed
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until he would drag me out by my ankles
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and physically assault me, so...
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[Voice breaking] I don't like it at all,
and I do want it to stop.
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It's like you're reliving it, I know. Okay?
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[Sobs]
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I told myself not to cry.
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It's not easy to talk about.
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How often did this happen
when you were younger?
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This happen one time?
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No, I was left with him
on several occasions.
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This guy ever get arrested for this?
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No, he did not.
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He committed suicide as a teenager.
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Okay. All right.
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[Sniffles]
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I'm sorry.
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I know. It's gonna be all right.
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You'll be okay.
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AMY: Mm, this woman again...
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Something happened to her.
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What?
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I don't know. Like, she was
physically abused or something.
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And, like, because of that experience,
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like, maybe she's just opened,
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'cause this person has abilities.
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There's, like, this creepy guy.
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And this woman in particular...
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She's aware that he does bad things.
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Do you know when he's from?
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Not that long ago.
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He's focused on...
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the suicide?
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I think he killed himself,
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and I think he would like to
make others kill themselves.
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His endgame...
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is death.
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STEVE: I was talking to your wife.
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What your daughter and her
are both going through,
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that would drive me to
want to shoot somebody.
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I do. I do want to shoot somebody,
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but there's nobody to shoot, Steve.
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Have you had any experiences here?
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Yeah. I was outside here with my son, Lucas,
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building him something.
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I put my circular saw down to my right.
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And Luke's eyes opened up.
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And at that point, I looked,
and the saw had levitated.
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It went through my tennis shoes
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and cut off my three middle toes.
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- You're joking.
- No, sir.
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You know, Dan, looking at this,
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I've had friends that have
hurt themselves pretty bad,
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and they never want to
admit they made a mistake.
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I'd tell you if I made a mistake.
I've looked at it a million times.
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I didn't place the saw down on my own foot.
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Is it possible you dropped it down,
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and it bounced off of something?
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No, I set it down.
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You set it down? Because I'm very cognizant
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of this place and how people
have gotten hurt here.
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We had the leading tile guy in
town cut his thumb off here.
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Numerous contractors have
been hurt while working here.
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AMY: This creepy guy...
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_
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He's like, "I just go in the ground,
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and I just want to make them bleed."
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He's very disturbed.
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He creeps.
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He's a creeper.
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I see him, like,
coming up behind a living dude,
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and then his head is, like,
right here, you know?
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The dead dude's face is right here,
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And he turns, you know?
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And he's, like, whispering...
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you know? And...
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this gets inside the living dude's head.
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He tells him what to do.
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What does he tell him to do?
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I think kill himself, you know?
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Holy [bleep]
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What?
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There's probably up to 50
dead people down in here.
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Who the [bleep]...
you know what I'm saying?
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Has 50 [bleep] bad dead people
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in their house in the middle of nowhere?
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What are they doing down here?
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Wow. Something's wrong with
these [bleep] people, man.
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This place is, like, insane.
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So, Shayna, I was talking to Mom,
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and I really wanted to
sit down and talk to you,
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'cause she told me
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whatever's happening in the house
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is happening to her and you.
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- Mm-hmm. - So I just wanted to
hear from you what's going on.
261
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I'm being scratched and bruised.
262
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This just comes out of nowhere?
263
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Yes, I wake up with it.
264
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So, where else have you been scratched?
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On my face.
266
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- On your face?
- Yes, and I have a picture.
267
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Wow. There's nothing sharp in
the bed or anything like that,
268
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- like a zipper or anything, like...
- No.
269
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A pillowcase or anything
that could've done this?
270
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- No.
- Okay.
271
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Now, what else is happening to you?
272
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I see a shadow man in my room every night.
273
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He can appear close to my bed,
274
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but he's, like, this black figure,
275
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and he's, like, tall,
and he's just pitch black.
276
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He's darker than the night.
277
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So, it sounds like you're
experiencing a lot.
278
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- I mean, anything else happening?
- My door.
279
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It's either the bathroom
door or my bedroom door.
280
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I'll shut it,
and I'll lock it so I feel safer,
281
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and it will shake it and pound on it
282
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and try to get in. It'll push on it.
283
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Sometimes, I wake up at night,
and it will be happening.
284
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What do you think it is?
285
00:15:47,997 --> 00:15:53,335
I think it's the spirit that
shows himself as a dark man.
286
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- That's frightening stuff.
- Yeah.
287
00:15:58,674 --> 00:16:01,843
The shadow thing tries to get in here,
but it can't.
288
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When the door's closed, it can't get in.
289
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- Door's very important.
- [Door creaks, shuts]
290
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That creature...
291
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- shadow...
- It's there?
292
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Yeah, he's...
293
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This is his area.
He likes it over there by the window.
294
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There, he crumples up.
295
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Like, he gets all hunched,
and he just... He waits, He waits.
296
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Then he'll crawl out the
door and crawl down the hall,
297
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you know, and go [bleep] with people.
298
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He might be [bleep] crazy.
299
00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:55,269
I don't doubt Michelle's
testimony for one minute,
300
00:16:55,271 --> 00:16:57,705
but one thing that's nagging at me...
301
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I'm wondering if the traumatic
event in her childhood
302
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could be making her relive that nightmare
303
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night after night after night.
304
00:17:04,301 --> 00:17:07,402
It might not be paranormal at all.
Maybe it's psychological.
305
00:17:07,404 --> 00:17:09,805
I'm heading over to meet with a psychologist
306
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to see if that's possible.
307
00:17:17,414 --> 00:17:19,647
Dr. Sivyer, thanks for meeting me.
308
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I appreciate it.
309
00:17:21,018 --> 00:17:25,187
So, I have a client who was
molested as a young child,
310
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and she seems to be having
reoccurring nightmares
311
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duplicating what happened to her.
312
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- Okay.
- Is that common?
313
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Generally speaking,
on post-traumatic stress disorder,
314
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one of the things that can manifest
315
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is called flashbacks,
316
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where they're reliving the traumatic event
317
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over and over again.
318
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Okay. Now, here's the weird part.
319
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She's actually waking up with
the bruising from an attack.
320
00:17:52,883 --> 00:17:56,251
Individuals that suffer from
borderline personality disorder,
321
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they sometimes cut themselves
or bruise themselves.
322
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What would I, as an investigator, look for
323
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in a person to see if they're
that type of personality
324
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to do that to themselves?
325
00:18:07,631 --> 00:18:10,899
They have a hard time with their emotions.
326
00:18:10,901 --> 00:18:13,935
They like a lot of attention
directed towards them.
327
00:18:13,937 --> 00:18:16,371
Yeah, that doesn't describe this woman.
328
00:18:16,373 --> 00:18:18,807
- She's the total opposite.
- Okay.
329
00:18:18,809 --> 00:18:21,443
This is the weird part,
if you could help me out with this.
330
00:18:21,445 --> 00:18:24,512
- She has a 16-year-old daughter...
- Okay.
331
00:18:24,514 --> 00:18:27,082
Who's having the same type
of nightmares every night...
332
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All right... same bruising.
333
00:18:29,386 --> 00:18:32,454
It could be that her mom has explained
334
00:18:32,456 --> 00:18:35,791
these events over and over again,
335
00:18:35,793 --> 00:18:38,293
and they're seeing the same things.
336
00:18:38,295 --> 00:18:41,997
Could those dreams possibly cause bruises?
337
00:18:41,999 --> 00:18:45,967
There's no clinical
evidence that I'm aware of
338
00:18:45,969 --> 00:18:50,472
that bruising and scratches
just manifest themselves.
339
00:18:54,877 --> 00:19:00,148
AMY: So, I'm seeing,
like, this living woman.
340
00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:02,918
I feel like she feels like
she's losing her mind.
341
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,754
I want to say it's stress,
342
00:19:05,756 --> 00:19:08,590
and I want to say it's due to her abilities.
343
00:19:11,794 --> 00:19:14,162
But it's [bleep] her body up bad.
344
00:19:14,164 --> 00:19:17,499
This might be what's affecting her heart.
345
00:19:17,501 --> 00:19:21,302
It's debilitating.
It's becoming debilitating for her.
346
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,109
STEVE: I'm confident that
Michelle and Shayna's bruises
347
00:19:27,111 --> 00:19:28,276
are not self-inflicted,
348
00:19:28,278 --> 00:19:30,145
so I need to look for an explanation
349
00:19:30,147 --> 00:19:31,913
of what's going on in this house.
350
00:19:31,915 --> 00:19:34,749
So I'm hitting the books
at the local library.
351
00:19:34,751 --> 00:19:37,085
Searching old property records,
352
00:19:37,087 --> 00:19:40,888
I find the original owner is
a man named Lafayette Peek.
353
00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:44,092
Turns out,
he suffered a lot during his time,
354
00:19:44,094 --> 00:19:47,128
losing three children
all under the age of 1.
355
00:19:50,232 --> 00:19:52,867
I'm heading over to meet
with a local genealogist
356
00:19:52,869 --> 00:19:54,169
who says those deaths
357
00:19:54,171 --> 00:19:56,838
were just the beginning
of the family's tragedies.
358
00:20:02,011 --> 00:20:03,812
Lafayette Peek and his wife, Harriet,
359
00:20:03,814 --> 00:20:05,547
purchased the property in the 1860s.
360
00:20:05,549 --> 00:20:07,749
And along with his brother, Theodore,
361
00:20:07,751 --> 00:20:08,984
they ran an apple orchard.
362
00:20:08,986 --> 00:20:11,152
And you can see their
property here at the top.
363
00:20:11,154 --> 00:20:14,556
The three kids dying,
I guess that's not uncommon
364
00:20:14,558 --> 00:20:16,958
back in those days,
but you say that was just the beginning
365
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960
of his problems. What'd you mean by that?
366
00:20:18,962 --> 00:20:21,196
In addition to Lafayette's children dying,
his brother,
367
00:20:21,198 --> 00:20:23,365
Theodore, and his wife, Sally,
also had five children,
368
00:20:23,367 --> 00:20:25,533
and they lost three of those children,
as well.
369
00:20:25,535 --> 00:20:28,770
He does not take this very well.
370
00:20:28,772 --> 00:20:30,839
He definitely had a mental
breakdown of some sort.
371
00:20:30,841 --> 00:20:33,641
He was wandering through the streets.
372
00:20:33,643 --> 00:20:37,478
He was shouting and screaming
and disturbing the neighbors.
373
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,348
His daughter filed a
petition with the court,
374
00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:42,717
asking him to be declared insane
375
00:20:42,719 --> 00:20:43,915
and committed to the
Kalamazoo State Hospital
376
00:20:44,015 --> 00:20:45,081
for treatment.
377
00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:49,026
What happened to him? Did he get committed?
378
00:20:49,107 --> 00:20:51,808
He did not. So one of his
daughters petitioned the court
379
00:20:51,810 --> 00:20:53,943
to, in fact, have him
released into her custody.
380
00:20:53,945 --> 00:20:55,544
And so he went and lived with her
381
00:20:55,546 --> 00:20:57,613
until he died of a stroke
several years later.
382
00:20:57,615 --> 00:21:00,382
Well, that's kind of a sad
story for this guy...
383
00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:03,452
all this death around him,
and then he goes crazy.
384
00:21:03,454 --> 00:21:05,722
Unfortunately, that's not where it ends.
385
00:21:05,724 --> 00:21:07,923
I also located several other individuals
386
00:21:07,925 --> 00:21:10,959
related to the family,
but not necessarily by blood.
387
00:21:10,961 --> 00:21:13,662
They were neighbors who had
various forms of mental illness.
388
00:21:13,664 --> 00:21:16,159
That's odd. So it wasn't...
389
00:21:16,259 --> 00:21:18,454
You know mental illness can
run in families, but...
390
00:21:18,554 --> 00:21:20,520
It seems to have run in this neighborhood.
391
00:21:23,808 --> 00:21:25,175
AMY: I see this man.
392
00:21:25,177 --> 00:21:28,545
I think he lived here,
and I think he's mentally ill.
393
00:21:28,547 --> 00:21:31,148
This person feels crazy.
394
00:21:31,150 --> 00:21:33,984
[Bleep]
395
00:21:33,986 --> 00:21:37,087
This house...
It's caused people to go insane.
396
00:21:37,089 --> 00:21:40,023
[Stammers, groans]
397
00:21:40,025 --> 00:21:42,525
Oh, I'm getting really pissed. Aah.
398
00:21:42,527 --> 00:21:47,364
This is a mess with the people here...
399
00:21:47,366 --> 00:21:49,866
big-time mess.
400
00:22:06,631 --> 00:22:07,819
During my research,
401
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:10,086
I came across something
else that caught my eye.
402
00:22:10,088 --> 00:22:11,354
There was a huge legal battle
403
00:22:11,356 --> 00:22:13,390
over Dan and Michelle's property.
404
00:22:13,392 --> 00:22:15,391
And when I called a local historian,
405
00:22:15,393 --> 00:22:18,028
he said it involved betrayal,
death, and insanity.
406
00:22:26,303 --> 00:22:29,105
When I contacted you, you said there was
407
00:22:29,107 --> 00:22:30,606
a lot more to the story.
408
00:22:30,608 --> 00:22:32,342
It's quite an involved case.
409
00:22:32,344 --> 00:22:34,511
The property was owned
by John and Maria Stitt,
410
00:22:34,513 --> 00:22:38,114
and between the two of them,
they had a daughter named Rosa.
411
00:22:38,116 --> 00:22:40,116
Okay.
412
00:22:40,118 --> 00:22:43,453
Well, John was not the
most faithful of husbands.
413
00:22:43,455 --> 00:22:45,822
And after about 20 years of marriage,
414
00:22:45,824 --> 00:22:47,958
Maria had decided she had enough.
415
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,293
And in 1887, she filed for a divorce.
416
00:22:50,295 --> 00:22:53,964
In that same year,
John is sued by one of his neighbors,
417
00:22:53,966 --> 00:22:57,567
Albert Blackmore,
for alienating his wife's affections.
418
00:22:58,603 --> 00:23:01,371
- So, he's going after this other guy's wife?
- He is.
419
00:23:01,373 --> 00:23:03,006
Okay.
420
00:23:03,008 --> 00:23:04,474
So, how's that work out?
421
00:23:04,476 --> 00:23:06,409
They settle out of court financially.
422
00:23:06,411 --> 00:23:09,746
And then he would marry
Elizabeth Blackmore,
423
00:23:09,748 --> 00:23:14,918
And she has adopted an
African-American child
424
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,221
who's 14 years old by
the name of Etta Mecklin.
425
00:23:18,223 --> 00:23:20,256
And it's not much time goes by,
426
00:23:20,258 --> 00:23:22,258
then rumors are circulating
427
00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:26,329
- that John is now having
affections for Etta... - Okay.
428
00:23:26,331 --> 00:23:28,532
- The 14-year-old.
- This guy's a real piece of work.
429
00:23:28,534 --> 00:23:33,036
And then his wife,
his current wife, Elizabeth,
430
00:23:33,038 --> 00:23:37,107
in 1898, develops liver and breast cancer.
431
00:23:37,109 --> 00:23:40,310
- Okay.
- She passes away in 1902,
432
00:23:40,312 --> 00:23:43,380
so that leaves Etta and John in the home.
433
00:23:45,116 --> 00:23:50,186
John passes away within a few
weeks of his wife's death,
434
00:23:50,188 --> 00:23:53,623
and he's found in Etta's bed.
435
00:23:53,625 --> 00:23:55,425
Here's an article.
436
00:23:55,427 --> 00:24:00,296
The big thing is,
John willed most of his estate to Etta.
437
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:02,866
Wow.
438
00:24:02,868 --> 00:24:05,635
For a small town, it was scandalous.
439
00:24:05,637 --> 00:24:06,736
What happens next?
440
00:24:06,738 --> 00:24:08,905
This is where the lawsuit begins.
441
00:24:08,907 --> 00:24:12,876
His biological daughter
really felt slighted...
442
00:24:12,878 --> 00:24:15,812
- Okay...
- and contests the will.
443
00:24:15,814 --> 00:24:17,948
Rosa felt that her father
444
00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:20,116
was so overcome with passion for Etta
445
00:24:20,118 --> 00:24:23,052
- that he rewrote his will.
- You had mentioned on the phone
446
00:24:23,054 --> 00:24:25,188
there was a little bit of insanity.
I guess that came...
447
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:26,923
talking about him being under her influence?
448
00:24:26,925 --> 00:24:30,393
- That's what it seems.
- Okay, so, how'd it work out?
449
00:24:30,395 --> 00:24:33,763
Well, in the end, Etta won the case.
450
00:24:33,765 --> 00:24:34,798
Really?
451
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,966
Rosa appealed this on two occasions
452
00:24:36,968 --> 00:24:39,535
and lost on appeal both times.
453
00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:45,775
AMY: This image I'm seeing
is really strange.
454
00:24:45,777 --> 00:24:50,179
This is that weird [bleep]
creature thing...
455
00:24:50,181 --> 00:24:54,383
crawling oddly down the hall.
456
00:24:56,387 --> 00:24:59,122
Like, I don't know what this
[bleep] thing is, really.
457
00:24:59,124 --> 00:25:00,423
I can't figure out
458
00:25:00,425 --> 00:25:04,227
what this shadow creature
is or where it came from,
459
00:25:04,229 --> 00:25:07,163
but I know that it's been
here for a very long time,
460
00:25:07,165 --> 00:25:09,565
and its goal is to torment living people.
461
00:25:09,567 --> 00:25:11,935
- Does it interact physically?
- Yes.
462
00:25:11,937 --> 00:25:15,105
It makes people kind of [bleep] crazy.
463
00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:27,083
I encountered many entities during my walk,
464
00:25:27,085 --> 00:25:29,285
but two stood out the most...
465
00:25:29,287 --> 00:25:30,453
first, the creepy guy
466
00:25:30,455 --> 00:25:32,889
who's whispering to a
living man in the house.
467
00:25:32,891 --> 00:25:35,158
It was in this room.
468
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,094
His eyes are kind of roundish.
469
00:25:38,096 --> 00:25:40,564
Seemed to have lighter-colored hair.
470
00:25:40,566 --> 00:25:43,433
And what about the second
person that you saw?
471
00:25:43,435 --> 00:25:49,038
He had dark hair,
and he looked like a corpse.
472
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,273
Next, I described
473
00:25:50,275 --> 00:25:53,476
the shadow creature
tormenting a living woman.
474
00:25:53,478 --> 00:25:57,313
She had long hair. Late 30s or early 40s.
475
00:25:57,315 --> 00:25:59,883
And there's this thing in the hallway.
476
00:25:59,885 --> 00:26:05,588
Its skin is really smooth,
a gray/brown kind of color.
477
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:08,558
Coming down the hallway,
it actually had to be on all fours,
478
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,194
because it's so large.
479
00:26:13,297 --> 00:26:14,831
Amy, is this what you saw?
480
00:26:16,834 --> 00:26:18,034
Yes.
481
00:26:38,601 --> 00:26:41,519
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
482
00:26:41,619 --> 00:26:42,820
we're ready to reveal our findings
483
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,137
to each other and our
clients for the first time.
484
00:26:46,237 --> 00:26:48,704
Amy, I'd like you to meet Dan and Michelle.
485
00:26:48,706 --> 00:26:50,306
This is their home.
486
00:26:50,308 --> 00:26:53,242
They're raising their two children here.
487
00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:56,145
This is Lucas, who's 17.
This is Shayna, who's 16.
488
00:26:56,147 --> 00:26:58,848
Now, things are pretty bad here
489
00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:00,783
because Michelle and Shayna
490
00:27:00,785 --> 00:27:03,586
are being physically
and emotionally attacked
491
00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:05,388
every night.
492
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:07,590
The family's put their heart and soul
493
00:27:07,592 --> 00:27:09,825
into this home, as you can see,
494
00:27:09,827 --> 00:27:12,228
and they really don't want to leave.
495
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:15,464
So now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on,
496
00:27:15,466 --> 00:27:18,201
I'm gonna ask her to tell us about her walk.
497
00:27:18,203 --> 00:27:20,236
AMY: When I got here, I entered the house,
498
00:27:20,238 --> 00:27:23,672
and it was extremely chaotic energy,
499
00:27:23,674 --> 00:27:26,742
especially in the basement.
500
00:27:26,744 --> 00:27:31,547
Like, when I went down there,
I saw all of these dead people.
501
00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:34,216
There was about 50 of them,
502
00:27:34,218 --> 00:27:37,586
which was very shocking.
503
00:27:39,889 --> 00:27:41,257
The scary thing is that
504
00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:43,793
all of those dead people are all negative.
505
00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:46,261
There's not one good person in there,
506
00:27:46,263 --> 00:27:48,964
and that was horrifying.
507
00:27:48,966 --> 00:27:51,567
And one of the things
508
00:27:51,569 --> 00:27:55,638
that also seemed to be a
constant throughout the walk
509
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,175
was the feeling of people thinking
510
00:27:59,177 --> 00:28:03,646
that they're losing their minds,
that they're going crazy.
511
00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:07,917
You guys do experience pretty
bad mood swings, right?
512
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:10,553
- DAN: Yeah.
- Absolutely.
513
00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:12,221
We'll be happy and just loving.
514
00:28:12,223 --> 00:28:13,989
We love... We're a strong couple.
515
00:28:13,991 --> 00:28:16,625
And we come in the house,
and the energy just zaps us,
516
00:28:16,627 --> 00:28:18,661
and we'll start fighting immediately.
517
00:28:18,663 --> 00:28:21,764
You come in, you know, it drags you down.
518
00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,399
Mm-hmm.
519
00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:26,102
So, during my research of the property,
it turns out
520
00:28:26,104 --> 00:28:28,303
there's a long history of mental illness
521
00:28:28,305 --> 00:28:30,039
associated with the land here.
522
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,708
Back in the 1860s,
523
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:34,577
the original owners of your property
524
00:28:34,579 --> 00:28:38,013
were two brothers...
Lafayette and Theodore Peek.
525
00:28:38,015 --> 00:28:40,415
There was a little bit of
bad luck with this family.
526
00:28:40,417 --> 00:28:43,118
Both brothers had five kids.
Both brothers lost three kids.
527
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,187
But it got a little bit worse for Theodore.
528
00:28:45,189 --> 00:28:47,290
Apparently, he went nuts...
529
00:28:47,292 --> 00:28:49,692
walking up and down the streets,
talking to himself,
530
00:28:49,694 --> 00:28:51,494
disturbing the peace, screaming,
531
00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:55,731
to the point where his daughter
tried to have him committed.
532
00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:57,099
So, I got the paperwork on that.
533
00:28:59,536 --> 00:29:01,370
The thing is, there's been other cases
534
00:29:01,372 --> 00:29:03,138
of neighbors in the area going crazy, too.
535
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:06,309
There was another guy that lived
here by the name of John Stitt.
536
00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:09,211
Apparently, this guy was a womanizer.
He had an ex-wife.
537
00:29:09,213 --> 00:29:10,779
He had a daughter. Has an affair
538
00:29:10,781 --> 00:29:13,382
with his neighbor's wife.
He winds up marrying her.
539
00:29:13,384 --> 00:29:16,184
They adopt a little, 14-year-old black girl,
540
00:29:16,186 --> 00:29:17,786
and it was a rumor that he winds up
541
00:29:17,788 --> 00:29:21,290
having an affair with this kid.
She's 14 years old.
542
00:29:21,292 --> 00:29:22,324
AMY: Oh.
543
00:29:22,326 --> 00:29:25,260
You know, a little bit crazy.
544
00:29:25,262 --> 00:29:28,063
Yep. That all makes sense.
545
00:29:32,002 --> 00:29:34,703
When I made it over to
the foot of the stairs,
546
00:29:34,705 --> 00:29:36,906
I saw a woman with long, brown hair,
547
00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:40,008
and she was panicking.
548
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:43,746
I could feel her fear.
She felt extremely overwhelmed.
549
00:29:43,748 --> 00:29:44,980
Somebody that's living?
550
00:29:44,982 --> 00:29:47,883
This is a living person, yes.
551
00:29:47,885 --> 00:29:50,085
The thing is, is that...
552
00:29:50,087 --> 00:29:53,989
the home is so filled with dead energy,
553
00:29:53,991 --> 00:29:57,760
it can negatively affect the body.
554
00:29:57,762 --> 00:30:00,229
And in this person in particular,
555
00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:01,964
I was getting that she might
556
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,166
develop some type of heart issue?
557
00:30:06,069 --> 00:30:08,904
MICHELLE: I actually had
a period of time...
558
00:30:08,906 --> 00:30:10,873
which I didn't think it was important,
559
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:13,075
and I didn't mention it to anybody...
560
00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:16,078
that I was literally blacking out.
561
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,782
And I had to go through
a bunch of heart tests.
562
00:30:19,784 --> 00:30:21,717
And they told me at the time
563
00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:25,654
that I had neural myocardial syncope.
564
00:30:25,656 --> 00:30:27,590
Okay.
565
00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:32,995
That is very common with sensitives.
566
00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:35,964
And unfortunately for mediums,
567
00:30:35,966 --> 00:30:39,802
we can attract things that
aren't particularly good.
568
00:30:39,804 --> 00:30:42,237
STEVE: You think she's maybe sensitive?
569
00:30:42,239 --> 00:30:43,706
Mm-hmm.
570
00:30:43,708 --> 00:30:46,809
I think the house is full of sensitives.
571
00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:55,818
What else did you see?
572
00:30:55,820 --> 00:31:00,790
One of the other things that
I got was this female was,
573
00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:04,292
at some point in her life,
abused by a male...
574
00:31:05,762 --> 00:31:09,097
and is having a very difficult time
575
00:31:09,099 --> 00:31:11,367
letting that experience go.
576
00:31:15,305 --> 00:31:17,340
I'm sorry, sweetie. I didn't want to
577
00:31:17,342 --> 00:31:19,608
have to bring it up at the table.
578
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:22,310
You know, could you just share with her
579
00:31:22,312 --> 00:31:24,780
what happened when you were a kid?
580
00:31:24,782 --> 00:31:29,819
When I was a little girl,
between the ages of 3 and 4,
581
00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:31,954
I was left with a male babysitter
582
00:31:31,956 --> 00:31:37,359
who sexually abused me on several occasions.
583
00:31:37,361 --> 00:31:41,930
He used to strip naked in front
of me and chase me around.
584
00:31:41,932 --> 00:31:44,333
And he has since committed suicide.
585
00:31:48,538 --> 00:31:49,905
[Bleep]
586
00:31:49,907 --> 00:31:53,175
Why'd you have that big reaction like that?
587
00:31:53,177 --> 00:31:55,177
Uh...
588
00:31:56,647 --> 00:32:01,349
I ran into a person in the basement,
589
00:32:01,351 --> 00:32:04,352
and I referred to him as "The Creeper."
590
00:32:06,857 --> 00:32:10,959
He's very disturbed,
591
00:32:10,961 --> 00:32:14,397
and he attempts to make the living here
592
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:17,667
do bad things...
593
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:21,069
make them feel like they're going crazy.
594
00:32:21,071 --> 00:32:25,040
He did not die that long ago,
595
00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:27,877
and I did get that he killed himself.
596
00:32:30,146 --> 00:32:33,315
STEVE: Well, once you told me that
you thought he committed suicide,
597
00:32:33,317 --> 00:32:35,718
I made some calls.
He went into a parking lot
598
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
with a car, broke the tail pipe off,
599
00:32:37,722 --> 00:32:40,355
turned on the heat, windows closed,
600
00:32:40,357 --> 00:32:41,757
in the end of August,
601
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,694
and was found dead.
602
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:46,561
And the caveat to the whole thing...
603
00:32:46,563 --> 00:32:48,497
He'd just came home from babysitting.
604
00:32:48,499 --> 00:32:50,299
[Scoffs]
605
00:32:53,804 --> 00:32:55,004
Now, do me a favor
606
00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:58,140
and tell Amy about the attacks every night.
607
00:32:58,142 --> 00:33:02,345
One of the same nightmares
that I have every single night
608
00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:04,379
is that I'm being chased.
609
00:33:04,381 --> 00:33:07,382
You know, I try to, like,
defend myself in the dream,
610
00:33:07,384 --> 00:33:10,318
and I've woken up with fingerprints,
611
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,120
bruises on my thighs.
612
00:33:12,122 --> 00:33:14,357
[Inhales sharply]
613
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:15,858
Wow.
614
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:17,426
And I get scratched.
615
00:33:17,428 --> 00:33:20,596
My daughter came to us and shared with us
616
00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:24,833
that she felt like somebody
was trying to assault her,
617
00:33:24,835 --> 00:33:27,202
and she has woken up with...
618
00:33:27,204 --> 00:33:29,004
Similar bruises.
619
00:33:29,006 --> 00:33:31,273
Oh, my goodness.
620
00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:33,008
And they're unexplainable.
621
00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:34,409
STEVE: They got photos.
622
00:33:34,411 --> 00:33:38,714
This is Michelle with some
scratches on her chest area.
623
00:33:38,716 --> 00:33:43,552
There's their daughter, Shayna,
with scratches on her face area.
624
00:33:43,554 --> 00:33:45,320
Wow.
625
00:33:45,322 --> 00:33:47,356
Now, I spoke to a psychologist
626
00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:49,491
just to get a grip on the whole thing,
627
00:33:49,493 --> 00:33:51,026
and you having the nightmares
628
00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:53,095
is totally explainable with the PTSD.
629
00:33:53,097 --> 00:33:54,830
Yes, absolutely.
630
00:33:54,832 --> 00:33:57,332
But the bruising and scratching don't add up
631
00:33:57,334 --> 00:34:00,402
- based on the profile she gave me.
- Okay.
632
00:34:00,404 --> 00:34:03,772
I did do a sketch with the creeper guy.
633
00:34:11,114 --> 00:34:12,347
STEVE: Take a look.
634
00:34:18,488 --> 00:34:20,956
MICHELLE:
The sharp nose and the cheekbones...
635
00:34:22,959 --> 00:34:28,496
He definitely reminds me of him.
636
00:34:30,299 --> 00:34:32,301
The strange thing about him is,
637
00:34:32,303 --> 00:34:34,769
I don't think he's the one
harming the women here.
638
00:34:34,771 --> 00:34:39,408
He had very bad intentions
towards the males in the house.
639
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:43,445
He's trying to plant harmful thoughts,
640
00:34:43,447 --> 00:34:47,149
telling the males in the
household to commit suicide,
641
00:34:47,151 --> 00:34:51,253
wanting to drive them insane.
642
00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:56,091
That's his main goal,
which is very concerning.
643
00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:58,693
He'll never be successful.
644
00:34:58,695 --> 00:35:01,263
STEVE: Do me a favor and
tell her about the blade
645
00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,798
that landed on your foot.
646
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,136
It was on September 11, 2005.
647
00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:09,738
I sat the saw down carefully,
648
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:11,306
and the saw levitated,
649
00:35:11,308 --> 00:35:14,276
came over my foot,
and chopped off three of my toes.
650
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,211
- Whoa.
- He had a picture of it, too.
651
00:35:20,116 --> 00:35:21,984
Oh, my God.
652
00:35:24,988 --> 00:35:27,289
There is something else that's here
653
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:33,462
that might be doing the major damage.
654
00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:36,231
The first time I saw it
655
00:35:36,233 --> 00:35:38,901
was when I was about to go up the stairs,
656
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:43,338
and it was just pitch-black and huge.
657
00:35:45,108 --> 00:35:48,844
It had no face, just kind of a mouth.
658
00:35:48,846 --> 00:35:54,016
It's, like, crawling oddly down the hall.
659
00:35:57,153 --> 00:36:00,089
It's like this on the ceiling.
You know what I'm saying?
660
00:36:01,857 --> 00:36:03,992
So, I did a sketch of a scene.
661
00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:12,300
Take a look.
662
00:36:18,474 --> 00:36:23,345
Sorry. It's really not a good situation.
663
00:36:37,078 --> 00:36:39,812
AMY: So, I did a sketch of a scene.
664
00:36:47,088 --> 00:36:49,122
Take a look.
665
00:36:57,498 --> 00:37:01,401
Sorry. It's really not a good situation.
666
00:37:13,881 --> 00:37:16,850
MICHELLE: We see a shadow every night
667
00:37:16,852 --> 00:37:20,087
come across the stairwell to the basement...
668
00:37:22,223 --> 00:37:25,558
and it is completely dark.
You cannot see through it.
669
00:37:28,195 --> 00:37:30,763
But is the purpose for watching us?
670
00:37:30,765 --> 00:37:32,432
What is it trying to do?
671
00:37:40,742 --> 00:37:43,710
This thing is extremely old...
672
00:37:43,712 --> 00:37:46,579
never been human.
673
00:37:48,815 --> 00:37:51,751
And it's been wreaking
havoc around this area
674
00:37:51,753 --> 00:37:53,120
for quite some time.
675
00:37:53,122 --> 00:37:56,489
It's caused people to go insane.
676
00:37:57,425 --> 00:38:00,993
Could that explain what happened
to the Peeks and the Stitts
677
00:38:00,995 --> 00:38:03,696
that lived on this property at some point?
678
00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:04,865
Absolutely, yes.
679
00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:12,005
From a Christian standpoint,
you would call it the devil.
680
00:38:16,243 --> 00:38:19,479
There are many of them all over the world,
681
00:38:19,481 --> 00:38:23,350
and they are much more powerful than demons.
682
00:38:23,352 --> 00:38:27,220
Is it this thing that's
giving her all the bruises?
683
00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:28,488
Yes.
684
00:38:28,490 --> 00:38:31,424
Whatever it is that scares you,
whatever it is
685
00:38:31,426 --> 00:38:34,126
that will harm you,
it's going to provide it.
686
00:38:36,197 --> 00:38:40,400
So, this guy here... Did
this devil bring him?
687
00:38:40,402 --> 00:38:43,403
I think it's highly likely.
688
00:38:47,108 --> 00:38:49,342
MICHELLE: I'm really worried now.
689
00:38:49,344 --> 00:38:52,278
If this is something
that we can't get rid of,
690
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,819
how am I, you know,
ever gonna be free of that?
691
00:39:00,654 --> 00:39:03,456
[Sighs]
692
00:39:08,029 --> 00:39:10,763
Now, Dan, when we spoke,
you said you'd do anything
693
00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:12,965
- to protect your family.
- Absolutely.
694
00:39:12,967 --> 00:39:15,301
Now we're gonna see what it's gonna take
695
00:39:15,303 --> 00:39:18,405
to protect your wife and your daughter.
696
00:39:18,407 --> 00:39:21,007
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
697
00:39:25,746 --> 00:39:27,547
If you stay here,
698
00:39:27,549 --> 00:39:30,550
there's gonna be a lot
of things you need to do.
699
00:39:30,552 --> 00:39:33,486
You have the devil.
700
00:39:33,488 --> 00:39:36,689
You have the creeper.
701
00:39:36,691 --> 00:39:38,425
You have the 50 dead people.
702
00:39:38,427 --> 00:39:41,794
You would have to hit
everything simultaneously.
703
00:39:42,996 --> 00:39:46,466
So I would recommend a
minister and a Wiccan.
704
00:39:46,468 --> 00:39:51,638
Basically, you would have this
Wiccan priest or priestess
705
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,474
do a clearing and a banishment.
706
00:39:54,476 --> 00:39:59,379
You would have the minister do a blessing.
707
00:39:59,381 --> 00:40:02,249
What they're going to do
is push everybody out.
708
00:40:03,717 --> 00:40:07,420
But... you ain't gonna
get rid of this devil.
709
00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:11,124
So, you're saying the devil
710
00:40:11,126 --> 00:40:14,027
would still be inside their house?
711
00:40:14,029 --> 00:40:16,362
No, they would push it
outside their property line.
712
00:40:16,364 --> 00:40:19,365
But it's not gonna keep him
out of the neighborhood?
713
00:40:19,367 --> 00:40:21,267
Mnh-mnh, no.
714
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:24,804
It's always been here.
715
00:40:26,407 --> 00:40:28,942
So, now, once the Wiccan and the minister
716
00:40:28,944 --> 00:40:31,411
come in and they do what they need to do,
717
00:40:31,413 --> 00:40:33,846
how do they keep the dead away from here?
718
00:40:35,383 --> 00:40:38,818
What I would suggest is, once a week,
719
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:41,488
you go out... And you can put a mixture
720
00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:43,790
of salt and holy water
721
00:40:43,792 --> 00:40:47,060
in just a regular spray bottle...
722
00:40:47,062 --> 00:40:49,930
Going around and spraying the perimeter,
and then
723
00:40:49,932 --> 00:40:55,635
spraying all of the window
ledges and all of the doors.
724
00:40:57,304 --> 00:41:00,540
Be very surprised if anything
happens inside the house
725
00:41:00,542 --> 00:41:02,575
once you guys are doing all of this.
726
00:41:02,577 --> 00:41:04,677
As far as your abilities are concerned,
727
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,713
I would begin with
728
00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:10,350
finding an online or
in-person meditation workshop.
729
00:41:10,352 --> 00:41:14,454
I would also recommend therapy for you.
730
00:41:18,892 --> 00:41:22,362
I'm kind of disappointed
in myself right now
731
00:41:22,364 --> 00:41:26,533
that if I brought a lot
of this about my family.
732
00:41:26,535 --> 00:41:27,933
You can't blame yourself
733
00:41:27,935 --> 00:41:29,869
for what happened to you in the past.
734
00:41:29,871 --> 00:41:32,339
This thing was here before we got here.
735
00:41:32,341 --> 00:41:34,640
That's true.
736
00:41:36,009 --> 00:41:38,511
You can't help your family
until you help yourself.
737
00:41:38,513 --> 00:41:41,814
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'd do anything to help my family.
738
00:41:41,816 --> 00:41:43,683
STEVE: What are you gonna do?
739
00:41:43,685 --> 00:41:46,386
We're gonna take Amy's advice.
740
00:41:46,388 --> 00:41:48,721
We're gonna take her advice
and do everything as a team.
741
00:41:48,723 --> 00:41:50,823
As long as you do all of these steps,
742
00:41:50,825 --> 00:41:53,059
the safest place will be this house.
743
00:41:53,061 --> 00:41:57,297
AMY: I really hope Michelle
and Daniel follow my advice
744
00:41:57,299 --> 00:42:00,500
and deal with the evil that's
terrorizing their family.
745
00:42:00,502 --> 00:42:02,602
With the help of a Wiccan and a minister,
746
00:42:02,604 --> 00:42:04,537
they should be able to free themselves
747
00:42:04,539 --> 00:42:06,606
of the darkness living inside their home.
748
00:42:06,656 --> 00:42:11,206
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